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2021 I DROP FOR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING IS NOW IN SESSION.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? YES, SIR.
CHAIRMAN TOWN, CHAIRMAN TOWN, COUNCIL, FRED HAMILTON, PRESENT DAN WOOD, JOHN NICKEL PRESENT GRACE STS PRESENT MEG JAMES.
WHEN CHAMBERS, WHEN CHAMBERS SHE'S STILL MUTE.
SHE, YEAH, SHE'S HERE AND DAN'S POLITE.
ALL RIGHT, MISS GWEN, WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, I JUST NEED YOU TO CHIME IN FOR THE RECORD.
WE HAVE, WE BASICALLY HAD RULE CALL NOW NEEDING THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
AND UM, WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 4TH, SO MOVED.
IMPOSE I, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
GIVE A COUPLE SLIDES THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH.
THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED AT $190,000.
TOWN STAFF HAS PROCESSED APPLICATIONS TO ASSIST INCOME QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLDS FOR THIS PARENT YEAR AS OF AUGUST 25TH, 2022.
WHEN THIS REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, DICK'S CLAIMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR HOME REPAIR AND ARE, AND ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BEGIN.
ONE HOME WILL BE VISITED IN THE UPCOMING DAYS TO REVIEW REQUESTED WORK.
SO JUST AN UPDATE ON THAT LINE.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 10 APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THIS FAR FOR ASSISTANCE.
SOME OF THEM ARE BIGGER JOBS THAN OUR NORMAL, SO I'M WAITING ON SOME ESTIMATES TO COME THROUGH FOR THOSE, UM, CUZ THERE'S SOME BIGGER JOBS THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN TWO MORE, HAVE BEEN VISITED IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND GET ESTIMATES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 APPLICATIONS ON MY DESK RIGHT NOW THAT ARE LOOKING TO HAVE REPAIR WORK DONE AND DROPPED A COUPLE OFF YESTERDAY AND A FEW MORE WILL BE DROPPED OFF TODAY.
SO AGAIN, AS ALWAYS, WE ARE GETTING IN THE APPLICATIONS THEY'RE COMING IN, THEY'RE GETTING INCOME QUALIFIED.
SO WE'RE UM, REQUESTING MORE CONTRACTORS AS ALWAYS.
I POSTED IT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE CONTRACTORS SO THAT WORK CAN BE DONE A LITTLE FASTER.
I'LL GO DOWN TO OUR EXCEL SHEET.
AS OF RIGHT NOW FOR OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE NOT SPENT ANY DOLLARS, UM, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
SO WE ARE KIND OF STANDING STILL THAT WE'RE REPORTED LAST MONTH CUZ WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY DOLLARS YET.
NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN ORDER TO SPEND ANY DOLLARS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING TIGHT TO WHERE WE ARE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT? UH, JUST FOR CLARITY.
UM, LET 'EM KNOW WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR ACTUALLY STARTS FISCAL YEAR STARTED JULY 1ST FISCAL YEAR STARTED JULY 1ST, WELL END JUNE 30TH.
FISCAL YEAR STARTED A MONTH AGO.
AND, AND WE CAN'T SEE THE ENTIRE, UM, SPREADSHEET.
I WONDER WHAT'S BEING CUT OFF CUZ I HAVE IT ALL THE WAY UP.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE? I'M SORRY, WE DON'T DON'T SEE THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT.
DON'T HIT ANYTHING BECAUSE I WOULD CLOSE OUT
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THE WHOLE THING.I HAD TO, I GOTTA, I HAD TO ADJUST MY PHONE.
NOW WE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE EXCEL SHEET BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF OUR GUEST SPEAKER IS IN, UM, SPOKE WITH HER ON MONDAY.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WHILE WE KIND OF GIVE HER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY SIX MINUTES IN, BUT I'M COMPLETE WITH MY DISCUSSION.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS? I'M TRYING TO GIVE HER A CALL.
UM, I HAVE, UM, THREE MEMBERS THAT APPROACHED ME ABOUT MEETING IN PERSON IN PERSON.
AND THEN I HAD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MEET IN PERSON.
THEN I HAD OTHER MEMBERS ABOUT THREE AS WELL.
THEY SAID IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT FOR THEM TO MEET IN PERSON BECAUSE OF THEIR WORK SCHEDULE.
UM, AND JOINING, UM, GAVE THEM THEIR ABILITY TO DO THAT.
MY, MY, MY CONCERN WITH THREE AND THREE IS THAT, UM, WE STRUGGLED TO HAVE A FORUM EVEN ON VIRTUAL.
SO HOW WE CAN BALANCE THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS IF ONE QUESTION AND I, ONE THOUGHT CAME TO MIND WAS, IS TO PULL, UH, THE ROOM FOR THE FOLLOWING MEETING AND SEE, UM, WHO'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE, UM, TO MEET IN PERSON.
AND I HAVE, UM, I'M, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY, UM, IN PERSONNEL, UM, UM, IN THIS CASE TEAM.
SO EITHER WAY I'M AND LIKE A DAY LIKE BEING, BEING OUT OF TOWN MAKES, MAKES SENSE POSSIBLE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO MISS IT.
WE GOT JOHN WHO'S PARTICULARLY OUTTA TOWN TOO FOR EXTENDED PERIOD, SO HE COULD ALWAYS MAKE IT, BUT WE COULD HAVE BOTH.
IT'S ALSO BOTH, UM, HYBRID TO USE THE HYBRID THOSE TOWN.
SO MY PRESENTER IS NOT ANSWERING WORK PHONE OR CELL PHONE, SO I HOPE SHE'S OKAY.
I DID LEAVE HER DETAILED MESSAGE.
UM, SHE WAS GONNA BE, BE PRESENTING A LITTLE, SOME OPTIONS FOR SOME NONPROFIT AGENCIES THAT WE CAN TEAM UP WITH TO DO SOME MORE WORK, UM, WHEN OUR PROJECTS GET BIGGER.
HER NAME IS, UH, FELICIA KILGORE.
SHE'S THE MANAGER AT THE SE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
SHE'S THE MANAGER OF THE FINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
SO I THOUGHT SHE WOULD'VE BEEN INTERESTING, BUT LIKE I SAID, SHE'S NOT ANSWERING HER CELL PHONE ON HER DESK PHONE.
SO I JUST, I WAS WELL WITH HER.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO RECORD ON.
UM, CHAIRMAN, DO YOU WANNA DO A VOTE ON THE IN PERSON IN ZOOM OR, UH, DISCUSSION FIRST? OKAY.
WELL I'M GOOD WITH WHATEVER YOU GUYS DO.
I HAVE TO BE THERE REGARDLESS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY 2 CENTS.
MM-HMM,
IT DOESN'T MATTER SOMETHING I CAN ARRANGE MY, UH, WORK SCHEDULE.
UM, IF WE GO IN PERSON, I LIKE IT BETTER ON ZOOM JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONVENIENCE, BUT I CAN DO THE WAY AS WELL.
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MR. NICKEL OR MS. JAMES, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE? WELL, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK UP IN FAVOR OF, OF IN PERSON MEETINGS AND UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF, IF WE NEED TO HAVE A, A QUO, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, UH, HAVE SOME PEOPLE, MAN.CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU COULD JOIN US IN THE CHAT.
JUST SO WE'LL HAVE ALL OPINIONS.
SCORE IN PERSON IN PERSON, MISS EVERYONE.
AND WE LOVE ENGAGING WITH THE COMPANY.
SO MISS MAGGIE IS GOING TO COME BACK IN.
SO WE HAVE THREE EITHER WAY AND WE HAVE TWO IN PERSON.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE FOR, FOR OCTOBER MEETING, MM-HMM
AND THEN WE CAN, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE THEN, UM, I'M, LIKE I SAID, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY, BUT I WOULD HERE FOR JUST TWO OF US TO BE IN PERSON AND EVERYBODY ELSE ONLINE.
SO, AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE AND YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN WE MET IN PERSON, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, AND ONLY NOW THAT WE HAVE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, THE CONCEPT OF INVITING GIFTS, UM, MIGHT BE, UM, GETTING SOME MORE INTEREST FOR OTHERS TO COME AND BE AN AUDIENCE.
BUT, UM, AS, AND, AND ALSO NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS PROJECT ON, UM, THAT'S CONTRACT, IT MIGHT BRING, BRING SOME, UM, SOME ATTENTION.
AND SPEAKING OF THAT CONTRACT, UM, IT'S NOT ONLY AGENDA, BUT I LIKE TO, UM, AND IT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE I FORGOT TO TELL YOU TO PUT IT ON THERE.
THAT'S MY FAULT, BUT I'M, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, 10 80, 10 85, UM, UM, BUCK ALLEN ROAD UNDER CONTRACT, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE DETAILS IS STILL NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE CONCEPT OR THE, UM, IN THE CONCEPT, WHICH MEANS THE, THE TYPE OF, UH, BUILDING, UM, OR BUILDING, UM, OPEN SPACE AND WHETHER THERE WOULD BE, UM, THIS CONDO, UM, OR SINGLE DWELLING.
UM, CAMERON, IF I MAY JUST FOR CLARITY 10, YOU SAID 10 85 BUCK ISLAND, BUT YOU MEAN 10 95 MAY RIVER, 10 95, 10 95 MAY RIVER.
UM, SO THE, THE, UM, THE, THE, THE CONCEPT THAT WAS PRELIMINARY, IF YOU WILL HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM ME, MYSELF, AND, UM, TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL, IT SHOWS THAT THEY WANNA HAVE, UM, ATTACHED UNITS.
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FOR ME BECAUSE, UM, ATTACHED UNITS ALSO COME WITH RESPONSIBILITY, FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE HOMEOWNERS.UM, NUMBER ONE WOULD BE ROOFING AND NUMBER TWO WOULD BE, UM, MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THIS IS SHARED, UM, ROOFING SYSTEM, UH, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN, UM, MOST, MOST OF THE, THAT TYPE, UM, STRUCTURES REQUIRES AN HOA FEE.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU WERE GIVING, UM, YOU PUT THOSE ON TOP OF THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE, I'M SORRY.
THAT MAY BECOME A FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT'S MOST OF US DON'T WANT TO SEE.
SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE TYPE CONCEPTS OR THOSE TYPE, UM, ARRANGEMENTS FOR THAT CONCEPT.
SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S I LIKE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERN FOR WHAT YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR CLARITY FOR WHAT YOU MAY HAVE CONFUSION ON.
UM, AND, AND THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER CONCERNS THAT, UM, DIDN'T COME THAT I'M NOT, UM, AWARE OF, BUT THIS COMMITTEE HAS TO BE AT THE TABLE WITH ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT'S GOING BE MY, UM, STRONG, UM, ATTEMPT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE IS INVOLVED IN THE, CAN YOU HEAR, UH, WHO'S SPEAKING, MEG, YOU NOT COMING THROUGH CLEAR, YOU'RE BREAKING UP.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU ON A CELL PHONE OR COMPUTER? I'M ON MY CELL PHONE, BUT I, BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T HEAR ME ON MY COMPUTER.
UM, I WAS JUST SAYING THE TOWN PUT OUT THE MEMO.
SO I KNEW THAT THE PROJECT WAS MOVING FORWARD.
AND I JUST, I WANTED TO SEE IF EVERYBODY ELSE HAD SEEN THAT GOES JUST ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WHO WAS INVOLVED AND STUFF.
IT WAS A MEMO THAT CAME OUT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
UM, I'LL GO BACK AND SEND IT BACK OUT TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE ITSELF.
THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME OUT FROM THE TOWN, BUT I WILL SEND IT OUT AFTER THIS MEETING.
THERE IS A COMMENT FROM GWEN CHAMBERS.
UM, HER COMMENT IS WHAT IF WE WERE TO ABLE TO LOOP IN COMMUNITY WORKS TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THOSE COSTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT PLAN IF THEY ARE ATTACHED TO SLASH THAT QUESTION IS I CAN'T, UM, ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, COMMUNITY WORKS TO, AT THIS POINT, WE ARE TALKING TO THEM ALSO AT, FROM A SO LOCAL, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE MANAGERS OF PROPERTIES AND OVERSEE PROPERTIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE FUNDING FOR PROPERLY.
SO IF SHE CAN CLEAR THAT UP, IF SHE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, I'LL, SHE CAN THAT WAY FOR HER TO CLEAR THAT UP.
AND, UM, I KNOW SHE'S PROBABLY AT WORK, BUT TALK, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE HAVE FUNDING THAT WOULD SUBSIDIZE ARE BECAUSE THE PROGRAM THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, THAT THEY HAVE ON, UM, UH, WITH SO LOCAL, UM, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FUNDING AND WE ARE PROVIDING MOST OF THE FUNDING FROM DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
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SOMEONE'S TYPING RIGHT NOW? I SEE THAT WAS ME.I WAS AFRAID YOU COULDN'T HEAR ME.
UM, I SAID BASICALLY, UM, I WILL LOOK INTO IT MORE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'VE HAD SOME SIMILAR, UM, CONTRACTS OR CONCEPTS THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON IN GREENVILLE.
AND NOW THAT THEY ARE MOVING DOWN HERE AND THEY HAVE A REGIONAL, UM, PARTNER HERE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, ACCESS THAT TEAM, THOSE SAME TAKE PART FOR OUR OWN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, BUT I'LL CONNECT WITH THEM AND, UM, I'LL LOOP THE KOREA IN AND WE CAN SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, KEEP IT OPEN AS, AS AS MANY OPTIONS THAT ARE POSSIBLE AND, AND WE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION IN THERE.
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FRED, FRED, THIS IS JOHN I, UH, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS, UH, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT? UH, THE TALENT IS THERE, IS THERE A COPY OF THIS PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT THAT'S AVAILABLE? APPARENTLY DOESN'T SEEM TO, IT'S GONNA BE
UM, I CAN SEE YOU AND, AND SEEM LIKE WHEN YOU LEAN FORWARD IS WHEN YOU START BREAKING UP.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU TRY THAT AGAIN FROM YOUR, YOUR RELAXED POSITION
MY QUESTION IS COPY OF THE, UH, PARTNERSHIP AVAILABLE TO, I MEAN, IS IT PUBLIC? YES.
I I'D BE CURIOUS IN, IN SEEING WHAT, WHAT THE TOWN'S AGREED TO.
UM, VICTOR, THAT'S THE, UM, UM, A JOB I'M WITH TO GET STEVEN TO SHARE THAT, THAT A CONTRACT WITH ALL OF, FOR HOUSING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, PLEASE.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I'M NOT REALLY.
UM, I GUESS I CAN'T REMEMBER I'M, I, I PRESUME WE'VE COVERED IT AT SOME POINT, UH, HOW THE, UH, HOW THE POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS WILL BE QUALIFIED FOR THE MORTGAGES, BUT IF THERE IS AN HOA GETTING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE, UH, ATTACHED HOUSING, IF THERE'S AN HOA FEE THAT IS COUNTED AS IN THE INCOME, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE CALCULATIONS, THAT'S COUNTED IN THE, IN WHAT THEY NEED AS FAR AS TO, UH, BE QUALIFIED, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH AGAIN MAKES IT CHALLENGING.
ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES TO MIND FOR THIS MORNING? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, YOU ALREADY HAVE IT, BUT I PUT IT IN YOUR HANDS TO MAKE THE CALL.
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YOU GUESS, YOU GUESS IT'S NOT HERE, RIGHT? I WOULD GUESS ANYWAY.I'VE CALLED HER SEVERAL TIMES, SENT HER A TEXT TO HER CELL PHONE, SO I JUST HOPE SHE'S OKAY.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
BUT WE SPOKE ON MONDAY, SO I'M NOT SURE.
WELL MAYBE, UM, WE CAN INVITE, UM, TO OCTOBER MEETING UNLESS YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE.
WELL, LET'S GET EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING, UH, THIS AFFORDABLE PROJECT THAT, THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR.
AND, AND, UM, VICTORIA WILL SEND YOU THOSE THAT HAVEN'T SEEN THE, UM, THE MEDIA THAT WENT OUT ABOUT IT.
AND THEY WAS ALSO, UM, I BELIEVE WS THE, A, UM, A VIDEO, UM, THAT THEY PRESENTED.
UM, COUPLE OF DAYS I SAW MYSELF AND I BELIEVE ONE OF, COUPLE OF OUR, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE, UM, AT THE TOWN HAS SOME, SOME, UH, VIDEOS AS WELL.
SO IF YOU CAN, IF, IF THE TERM I'M PUTTING IT ALL ON YOU, I'M SORRY.
BUT IF YOU COULD SHARE THOSE, THOSE VIDEOS, UM, WITH THE COMMITTEE, WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT HELP.
I'LL SEARCH FOR THEM THIS MORNING.
AND, AND WHEN YOU GET, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SEE THE VIDEO OR THE, OR THE MEDIA RELEASE, AND ANY OTHER QUESTION, COME TO MIND, PLEASE, UM, SEND THOSE QUESTIONS TO VICTORIA AND, UM, SHE'LL SHARE WITH ME AND WE'LL TRY TO HAVE THOSE, UM, AS A TOPIC FOR IF, IF, UH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
UM, I THANK YOU ALL FOR, UM, FOR THIS MEETING AND YOUR TIME.
AND, AND AT THIS POINT, HAVE A HAPPY, UM, LABOR DAY WEEKEND, AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT, NEXT, UM, MONTH POSSIBLY IN PERSON.