Aug 22, 2022 Finance Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER PLEASE.

WOULD YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME WE DO NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL QUORUM OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND TAKE ACTION. THE CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS ON HIS WAY BUT HE'S STUCK IN TRAFFIC. HE WILL BE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

MR. RUDMAN IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE THAT'S EX OFFICIO. I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.

AS SOON AS MR. LAWSON GETS HERE WE WILL HAVE A QUORUM TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO MAY BE JOINING US ONLINE.

BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. WE CAN TAKE NOTE THAT'S AN ACTION SO WE CAN'T TAKE THAT.

SO WE CAN'T IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT UNDER THE

CITIZEN COMMENTS SECTION? >> SEE NONE. OK.

[7. DIVISION UPDATE FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DALE BUTTS]

GIVE US AN UPDATE FROM BEFORE? >> ONCE YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM AND YOU GET TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, WE NEED TO REMOVE ITEM SIXTEEN THAT NEEDS TO COME FORWARD NEXT MONTH AS PART OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO THAT ITEM CAN BE DEFERRED.

OK. SO ARE YOU WEDNESDAY ON THEIR FIRST DAY OK.

WELL WE'RE GETTING READY FOR IT GETS READY. WE'VE GOT AS PART OF THE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. AFTERNOON. JUST A BRIEF UPDATE.

>> IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD A FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE FINANCE DIVISION.

WE HAVE A NEW LOOK FOR FISCAL YEAR TWO THOUSAND TWENTY THREE WHICH YOU'RE AWARE OF .

BUSINESS LICENSES IS NOW PART OF DEVELOPMENT AND RECREATION UNDER MR. CHUCK ATKINSON.

AND OUR BUDGET DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DISSOLVED AS A STANDALONE DEPARTMENT AND THOSE FUNCTIONS WILL BE PLACED BACK UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN VIEW A AN UPDATED VERSION OF OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART UNDER THE AD MEN LINK ON THE COUNTY WEB SITE. AND SPEAKING OF THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT MISS MISS HARRIET ANNOUNCE THE RELEASE OF THE F Y TWENTY THREE ANNUAL BUDGET DOCUMENT LATE LAST WEEK THAT'S ALSO KNOWN AS THE BUDGET BOOK AND AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED IN WORKSHOPS IT IS A DIGITAL FORMAT AND IS AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEB SITE. IF YOU PREFER A PDA VERSION YOU CAN CONTACT ME OR HER OR ANYONE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WILL DIRECT YOU ON PRINTING A COPY OF THAT FOR YOU. OUR H.R. DEPARTMENT HAS BEGUN A REWRITE OF THE COUNTY'S PERSONNEL HANDBOOK WHICH IS NOW OVER 6 YEARS OLD. THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONS AND RETRACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AS WELL AS GENERAL CLEANING UP OF SOME WORDING TO MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT NEW PERSONNEL HANDBOOK READY TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND MASSA'S OFFICE HAS BEGUN WORK ON THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT NOTICES. IN FACT OUR PRINT VENDOR WILL BE SENDING OUT NINETEEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED TAX YEAR TWENTY TWO NOTICES LATE THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK AND THE COUNTYWIDE VALUE DATA FILE WILL THEN BE PLACED ON THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE SHAREPOINT SITE BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS DAY THIS FRIDAY AND WE WILL DO AN EMAIL BLAST TO ALL CONCERNED DEPARTMENTS IF THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO VIEW.

AS OF AS OF FRIDAY I ONLY MENTIONED A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FINANCE DIVISION AND IF YOU WILL EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU CAN CERTAINLY FEEL

FREE TO CONTACT ME AT ANY TIME AND THAT'S IT. >> UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS NOT A QUESTION BUT A COMMENT. THE THE ASSESSMENTS ARE GOING OUT BECAUSE THIS IS THE YEAR

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WE'RE DOING REASSESSMENT. >> WELL, THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY THE THE NINETEEN THOUSAND I NOTICES WHERE VALUES CHANGE SOMEWHAT EITHER EITHER. IT COULD BE LEGAL RESIDENTS.

IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAUSED A CHANGE. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE THE ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND NOTICES THAT WOULD BE MAILED OUT FOR REASSESSMENT CATCH. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. NEXT YEAR WHEN NEXT YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME I THINK TYPICALLY THEY GO OUT AROUND SEPTEMBER 1ST SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD WITH THESE THEN WHERE WE NORMALLY WOULD BE. BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY THE TIME ON THE CALENDAR WHEN ASSESSMENT NOTICES GO AND EITHER CHANGE YOUR STATUS NOTICE NEXT TIME.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.

SO IF YOU'VE HAD NO CHANGE AT ALL IN YOUR IN YOUR PROPERTY VALUE THEN YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET THAT ASSESSMENT NOTICE EVERY FIVE YEARS. YEAH.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

OKAY. WE STILL HAVE NOT REACHED A QUORUM AND UNTIL MR. LAWSON ARRIVES WHICH SHOULD BE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES I WILL DECLARE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE IN RECESS UNTIL WE HAVE A QUORUM. MR REDMAN? YEAH WE CAN ACTUALLY RECEIVE INFORMATION. OH SURE WE CAN. OH AND HERE HE IS.

SO YOU KNOW WE COULD TAKE THE FINANCIAL REPORTS. YES.

OK. SO. OK.

OK. WE DO NOW HAVE A QUORUM. MR. LAWSON.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PLEDGE. WE'VE DONE THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. THERE WERE NO CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO WE WILL NOW HAVE IT TURNED

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

FOR A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA. >> YES.

AND I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 16 FROM THIS AGENDA TO BE PLACED ON NEXT MONTH'S FINANCE COMMITTEE. OKAY.

HERE'S OUR SECOND FOR THAT SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. IT'S ERNIE DISCUSSION. OBVIOUSLY NOT.

SO THAT WILL BE PASSED WITHOUT OBJECTION. THERE IS NO OBJECTION.

SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. SO NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU. AND I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED AND JUST IN A SECOND FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE AN OBJECTION? NO OBJECTION. SO IT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED AS AMENDED.

>> SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE MR. BUTZ GAVE US A UPDATE ON.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 20, 2022]

WELL, WE'LL GET THAT. I JUST TALK MR. HART RASHAD. HE WAS GETTING ON AS WELL AS HE SHOULD BE ON HERE ANY ANY MINUTE. HE IS.

THERE HE IS. THAT'S NUMBER FIVE. WE NEED YOUR ORDER NUMBER FIVE . WE'RE NUMBER EIGHT. WE NUMBER FIVE.

WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE MINUTE YET. OK.

SO NUMBER FIVE WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 20TH 20 22 LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES SO MOVED AS OUR SECOND SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NO DISCUSSION ANY OBJECTION TO US APPROVING THOSE MINUTES SAYING NO OBJECTION THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO CITIZENS COMMENT AND WE'VE DONE THAT YET. YES.

WE DID THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO NO CITIZENS COMMENT.

[8. DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF YEAR TO DATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FY 2023, HAYES WILLIAMS, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER]

WILLIAMS IF YOU COULD COME JOIN IN LOOKING FOR DISCUSSION OF PRESENTATION OF DR..

>> YES. TO DATE A YEAR TO DATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012 THREE COUNTRIES. YES, SIR. WAYS WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY CLOSED JUNE 30TH OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO . WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING EVERYTHING READY FOR THE AUDITORS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE HAD AUDIT EXPERIENCE IN YOUR PAST BUT WE'VE GOTTEN THE BBC LIST PREPARED BY CLIENT LIST. BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE SOUPED UP NOW.

IT'S CALLED SIRI LINK WHERE THEY ASK YOU. WE WANT RECONCILIATIONS AND YOU UPLOAD THEM. YOU GET THE NEXT PAGE. BUT WE SAID SO WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY RECONCILING AND ACCRUING AND ALLOCATING IN UPLOADING AND WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE AUDIT OUR TIMELINE. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A 60 DAY ACCRUAL THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT ARE OUR ACCRUAL CUTOFF WILL BE AUGUST 30TH AND WE'LL ACCRUE BACK TO THAT. AFTER THAT WE WON'T GET TO SPEND THE MAJORITY OF SEPTEMBER

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WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'LL BE OUT HERE IN OCTOBER BUT EVERYTHING IS UP TO SIRI LINKS IF THEY HAVE A DOWNTIME WITH ANY OF THEIR OTHER CLIENTS. THEY WANT TO GO LOOK AND START ON OUR AUDIT WHICH I THOUGHT WAS TREMENDOUS. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM TO HOPEFULLY AUDIT FIELD WORK DONE AT THE END OF OCTOBER OR EARLY NOVEMBER AND HAVE A DRAFT SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER OR EARLY DECEMBER. SO THAT'S KIND WHERE WE'RE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW. WE REALLY ARE PUSHING TO HAVE A REPORT DONE BY THE DECEMBER MEETING OF THE DECEMBER COUNCIL MEETING WHICH WILL PROBABLY FALL INTO YOUR CHAIR.

SO THAT'LL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION. THAT IS EXCELLENT.

SO ONE THING YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE GREENBELT, THE 1 PERCENT GREENBELT AND AS A PART OF THAT I DID A LOT OF A LOT OF RESEARCH KIND OF RESEARCH BUT LOOKED AT THE RULE AND CRITICAL I FOUND SOME INTERESTING ITEMS THAT I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT WANT TO SHARE WITH THE WITH WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL SOME IN A NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. BUT I FOUND THAT THERE WERE THAT WE'VE HAD FIVE REFERENDUMS TWENTY TWO THOUSAND THAT TOTALED OVER ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ISSUED DARRELL, WE HAVE EXISTING DEBT RELATED TO RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS LEFT STILL AND WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MILLION AVAILABLE DOLLARS WHICH WAS PRETTY GOOD. BUT THE REALLY CRITICAL POINTS PROGRAM WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A GREAT PROGRAM HAS ALLOWED US TO DELIVER 25 THOUSAND ACRES FOR CONSERVATION PARK BUFFER SCENIC VISTAS AND THE PRESERVATION OF VALUABLE ECONOMIC AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

SO THERE'S JUST SOME NEAT FACTS THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU KNEW, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.

GOODMAN THE FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHT FOR FOR THE YEAR IN KIND OF THIS CURRENT MONTH YOU KNOW YOU LIMP IN AFTER YOU CLOSE OUT THE YEAR. SO WE'RE KIND OF GOING IN THAT WAY THE 20 20 TO THE 20 20 20 3 BUDGET WAS I IT EARLIER THAN IT EVER HAS BEEN BEFORE.

I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY UPDATED BEFORE JUNE 30TH WHICH WAS GREAT.

I'VE SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ACA AS THEY SAY GUYS GET THE MONEY THERE IF YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET YOU'RE OUT THERE, SPEND IT ANY PROJECTS YOU HAVE TO GET IT BOUGHT IT GET IT SPENT BY ANY VEHICLES OR ANY BEING ANYTHING OUT THERE GET IT ROLLING EARLY SO YOU DON'T GIVE THEM THE YEAR TO BE A CARRYOVER.

WE WERE LOOKING LIKE WE HAVE A FEW CARRYOVER ITEMS THIS YEAR NOT NOT THE LITANY THAT WE DID IN PREVIOUS YEARS BUT WE WANT TO GET THROUGH AUGUST TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA AND THAT'LL BE AT THE NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. RIGHT NOW BETWEEN AUGUST AND NOVEMBER WE'RE GOING TO PAY ABOUT THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST.

YOU TYPICALLY HAVE TWO PAYMENTS A YEAR IN THE FALL. IT USUALLY INTEREST IN THOSE BRINGING IN USUALLY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST BUT WE HAVE ABOUT THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS AND WE HAVE TOTAL OUTSTANDING DEBT RIGHT NOW ABOUT ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX MILLION BREAK DOWN AS BLUFFTON PARKWAY. TWELVE MILLION JENNY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THREE HUNDRED FIFTY ONE THOUSAND KENNY G. DEBT SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND POUNDS IMPACT SO YOU THREE POINT FOUR AND CRITICAL EIGHTY NINE STORMWATER UTILITY AT ABOUT FIVE MILLION.

SO LET'S PAGE THIS KIND OF GIVES US A QUICK GLIMPSE OF KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AS OUR REVENUE GOES. AS I SAID, WE'RE KIND OF LIMPING IN WITH REVENUES KNOW THEY KIND OF TRICKLING THE BAD REFORM TAXES. WE DON'T REALLY WE DON'T PLAN ON SEEING A LOT FO DECEMBER AND JANUARY. SO WE'RE SLOWLY COMING IN TEPIDLY INTO THE NEW YEAR. WE STILL HAVE RESERVES AND WE'RE STILL GOOD TO GO.

WHERE WE ARE THE NEXT IN EXPENDITURES ARE TRACKING ANYWHERE FROM 9 TO DELAY OF A MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH WHICH IS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE ON THE SWEET SPOT RIGHT NOW FOR THE GENERAL FUND. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN TO JULY THIS YEAR WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE JUNE 30TH IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO GET. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL THE CREWS DONE YET.

SO IT WASN'T REALLY GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND THE AUDIT.

I DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS FAIR TO PRESENT THE ALL UNTIL WE HAVE THE NUMBERS OFF NOW A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO QUESTIONS. CHRIS MR. HIRSCHHORN. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. A QUICK UNRELATED QUESTION WAS WHERE ARE WE THE MOST RECENT

INTERNAL AUDIT? >> WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES.

IF YOU'D LIKE I CAN I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT THE FINDINGS WERE IN IN WHAT THE FINDINGS WERE AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.

THE NEXT MEETING. >> YEAH, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

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WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS GETTING THAT PROCESS UP. >> WE'LL DO YES SIR.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS?

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN AWARD TO FIRST TRYON ADVISORS FOR FINANCIAL ADVISORY CONSULTING SERVICES FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY DEBT ISSUES]

ADVISORY CONSULTING. >> SO YES. SO WE WENT OUT FOR AN RFP FOR THE FINANCIAL ADVISORY SERVICES FOR BEFORE THAT ISSUE. YOU TYPICALLY HAVE TO DECIDE YOU HAVE THE FINANCIAL ADVISORY SIDE, THE LEGAL COUNSEL SIDE. WE ALSO HAVE AN RFP OUT FOR THE LEGAL COUNSEL SIDE WHICH WILL PROBABLY BRING TO YOU NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

BUT WE HAD THREE FIRMS PROPOSE FIRST TRY ON ADVISORS WAS TOP RANKED FIRM.

THE CONTRACT IS FOR TWO YEARS OR THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERMS. THE FEES ARE COMPARABLE THESE AREN'T WE? THE AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANNUAL FEES WHICH THEY DON'T TYPICALLY THEY'RE BASED ON WHEN YOU ISSUE THE DEBT. THE LAST DEBT WE HAD WAS THE 20 OR THE LAST REAL BOND ISSUANCE WE HAD TO FIJI ONE OR REFUNDED ONE BUT THE ONE THAT WE ACTUALLY ISSUED WAS THE RULE AND CRITICAL. AND THEN OTHER 12 MILLION DOLLAR BOND AND THERE'S TOTAL FEES WE'RE ONE HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THAT WAS THE BOND COUNSEL AND THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THAT. SO I WANT TO BUT THEY'RE IN THE BALLPARK THERE AND THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THEIR COSTS BEHIND IT. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YES. JUST LIKE SO THESE SERVICES ARE ONES THAT ARE QUITE STATUTORY ONE YEAR AS PART OF THE BOND. YES.

WOULDN'T WHEN WE HAVE WHENEVER WE PUT TOGETHER BOND WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR IN THE BOND COUNSEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A HA DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED SO WE CAN LEGALLY ISSUE DEBT FOR THE COUNTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WILLIAMS? MOVE APPROVAL. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. WAS THERE A SECOND, JACK? ALL RIGHT.

AND SO THIS. SO WE WOULD MOVE THIS TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROVING TO SEND TO COUNCIL. SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION? WITHOUT OBJECTION. WE'LL MOVE THIS THEN TO COUNCILS. ANY OBJECTION? NO OBJECTION.

THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS. ON THE NEXT ONE OR THE NEXT ONE AS WELL? ONLY. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO GET YOUR LAZY BOY. STAY RIGHT THERE. YOU ALWAYS BOYS STAND UP FOR

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN AWARD TO JOHNSON CONSULTING FOR THE SAINT HELENA ISLAND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER FEASIBILITY STUDY AND MARKET ANALYSIS SERVICES FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY (FISCAL IMPACT $66,000)]

THE HOUSE. >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE.

NUMBER 10 LET'S MOVE ON. APPROVAL OF AN AWARD TO JOHNSON CONSULTING FOR THE ST. HELENA ISLAND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER FEASIBILITY STUDY. TELL US ALL ABOUT THE

PURCHASING. >> THE SHIPMENT WAS REQUESTED AS AN ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTEREST TO DO AN RFP FOR A STUDY FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY IN A MARKET ANALYSIS FOR ST.

HELENA ISLAND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THEY HAD SIX FIRMS THAT PROPOSED THE TOP FOUR WERE INTERVIEWED.

JOHNSON CONSULTING WAS RANKED FIRM. IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT SIXTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE SERVANT FOR THE STUDY AS AS IT FIELD SHOWS TWO AWARDED NOT AWARDED. THAT'S REALLY ALL A KIND OF COMES DOWN TO DID YOU HAVE COUNSELING YOU GAVE HER? I DON'T KNOW. COUNSELING LOVER WAS WHERE I EXPECTED YORK TO BE HERE MR. GLOVER TO BE HERE AND HE'S THERE.

I'M GOING IN RIGHT NOW. I DIDN'T SEE UP THERE ALL HIS EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDING.

YES, SIR. I WILL THEN MAKE A LITTLE BIT. I THINK WHAT YOUR IS IS SUGGESTED IS THAT THIS COULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE FOR ST.

HELENS AND THAT LED TO SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT LED TO THIS I BELIEVE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITIES RIGHT ON TIME JUST IN TIME TO SPEAK TO MR. QUESTION MAY YOUR OVER MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR.

YES. GO. WE HAVE NO IDEA.

SQUARE FOOTAGE GOES LOOK AT ANOTHER LOOK AT LOOK. I'M A LOT MORE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'RE ALL PERFORMING ARTS

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THANK YOU TO HIM. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MEANS FORCING HELDER AND SEEING HIM ON THE BASICALLY WANT TO REMAIN RULE AND THE CONCEPT WILL PERFORMING ARTS CENTER DO THOSE TWO THINGS . IT KEEPS IT RULE BUT IT ALSO GIVES THE NATIVE OF THING, HOLLY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THEIR STORY IN YOU KNOW THERE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING THE AREA. THEY COME TO BEAUFORT AND THEY ASKED FOR THE GULF COMMUNITY AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND I DON'T KNOW A LOT AND THIS WILL BE REALLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY DO SO AT THE SAME TIME IT PROVIDES AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FORCING HEAVILY AND BEFORE COUNTY IN THE WHOLE AREA OF TOURISM. AND SO THAT'S THE THRUST BEHIND THE CONCEPT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MR. O'TOOLE FOR SOME TIME ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'LL SEE HOW HONOR AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT I'VE FLOWN TO HIM AND WE'RE BRINGING IT HERE NOW FOY IMPACT STUDY AND IT'S REALLY A 10 YEAR ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY IN THE DETERMINATION ON THE SIZE LEADING UP TO THE CONSULT. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO COMMUNITY FOLKS AND I THREW OUT TWO HUNDRED AND SOME PLANNING TO A LOT A THOUSAND AND SO MY THOUGHT. TWO THOUSAND I'M SAY YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S REALISTIC OR NOT. ONE GENTLEMAN DID SAY TO ME THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC WILL SORT OF DICTATE THE SIZE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THESE FOLKS AT HOME HAVE SAID THAT THEY DO NOT WANT A FOUR LANE FIVE LANE GOING THROUGH SEEING HOW ONEROUS THAT'S GOING TO DO DETERMINE THIS IS THE LOCATION. WE WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE CONSULTANT AS WELL LOOKING AT THE CORNER COMMUNITY AS A PRIMARY FOCAL POINT BECAUSE THAT'S THE AREA THAT SEEING OUR RESIDENTS SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN IN THE CORNER COMMUNITY . SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DETERMINE THE SIZE NOR THE LOCATION WOULD LEAVE THE CONSULTANT TO DO THAT AND THEY ARE TO BRING BACK A 10 YEAR IMPACT STUDY AND WITH THAT 10 YEAR ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY WE WE HOPEFULLY WILL WILL EMBRACE TO MOVE FORWARD NOW. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT COUNCIL IS OBLIGATED TO ANYTHING AT THIS TIME OTHER THAN TO STUDY. THAT'S TO ME OUR EFFORT OF ASSURING OR LOOKING AT THE DUBLIN FOR THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS. MR. O'TOOLE, YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT AT THIS TIME OR I THINK YOU COVERED IT ANYONE IS I WILL SAY THIS HERE THAT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN AS FAR AS COURSE THE THE THEATER YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT A 15 THOUSANDS I MEAN FIFTEEN HUNDRED SEAT CAPACITY THERE IS A LIKE A 16 MILLION DOLLARS THAT VET COURSE IS REALLY A FUNDRAISER THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL ACTUALLY TAKE ON AS FAR AS THE BUILDING IS CONCERNED. SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WILL BE RESPONSIBLE.

IT'S REALLY THE COMMUNITY BASICALLY WOULD TAKE ON THAT. AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LEFTIES OUT THERE THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP SAVE THE GULLAH COMMUNITY.

THAT'S MY THING. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTION ANYBODY HAS AT THIS TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GLOVER THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS AND CHRIS HAD HIS HAND UP.

MR. HARPER SEAN GOT THANK YOU. >> I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR US.

WELL, I DEFINITELY OR THIS. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS ONCE THIS WAS A FUND IN THE

PACKAGE. >> YES. YES.

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GOLF CLUB. THERE ARE TWO SOURCES OF FUNDS. ONE IS THE COUNCIL CONTINGENCY FUND FOR SIXTY SIX THOUSAND AND THE OTHER WAS ARE BOTH THE HALF OF THE REVENUE LOSS FOR SIXTY SIX THOUSAND EITHER ONE OF WHICH I WOULD NEED AS PART OF YOUR MOTION TO SAY WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON THAT PLAY MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE HARBOR FUNDS AND I'D BE HAPPY

TO BE DAMAGING CHRIS. >> SO THAT'S AN OFFICIAL MOTION CHRIS.

I'LL SECOND IT SIR. ALL RIGHT. MR. GLOVER, SECOND ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT BEING STUPID ,IS HE? NO, I'M FINE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT SEEING NO OBJECTION THAT WOULD BE FOR THE SOURCE OF FUNDS.

SO WE STILL NEED TO VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THIS MOVING IT FORWARD OF A MOTION JUNE TO ACCEPT THIS RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL. SO THERE A SECOND CHANCE, A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE MOVING THIS AS AN APPROVED ITEM TO COUNCIL USING THE ARPA FUNDS AS A SOURCE OF REVENUE.

SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE VALUATION BEING AT SIXTY SIX THOUSAND CAMP THIS COMMITTEE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT GOING TO COUNCIL. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK IT SAYS THIS IS GONNA BE A CONTRACT TO DO THE STUDY.

PROBABLY DOES NEED TO GO ON THE COUNTY COUNT FOR YOU TO AUTHORIZE ME THAT YOU ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT. GOT YOU. OK.

OK. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE IT UP.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT MOVE THIS ON. THE COUNCIL HAS ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR SEEING NO OBJECTION. WE WILL THEN MOVE THIS TO COUNTY COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FUNDS BEING THE SOURCE OF REVENUE. I THINK MR. WILLIAMS, YOU THINK WE'RE GOOD BACK.

WE MIGHT NEED TO GREAT. YES. ALL RIGHT.

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN AWARD TO HGAC BUY COOPERATIVE FOR THE PURCHASE OF REPLACEMENT AMBULANCES (FISCAL IMPACT: $817,220 FOR FOUR AMBULANCES)]

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LINDA AN AMBULANCE IS DISPATCHED ON THE FIRST TELL JUST TELL ME THE PROCESS OF PICK UP AND DELIVERY WHERE WHAT HAPPENS? SURE.

SO WHEN WE GET IN I'M ON ONE CALL ON THE PASSKEY WE WILL SHOW UP JUST LIKE WE WERE ANYWHERE ELSE WITH OUR AMBULANCE, OUR TWO PARAMEDICS OR A PARAMEDIC IN THE EMPTY WE WILL SHOW GO THROUGH THE PROCESS LIKE WE NORMALLY DO IF IT IS LOOKING THAT THEY DO NEED TO GO AHEAD, MOVE ON TO A HOSPITAL BECAUSE NOT ALL OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE PESKY END UP LEAVING THE ISLAND. SO IMUS MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE AND IF NOT AND THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED OFF THE ISLAND TO A HOSPITAL USUALLY TO HILTON HEAD OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEN WE MOVE THEM DOWN TO HAIG POINTS DOCK HAIG POINT HAS FOR US A CAPTAIN AND A SMALLER VESSEL THAT IS READY TO GO AT ANY TIME JUST LIKE US.

>> THEY'RE THERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 FOR THE YEAR. AND AT ANY TIME WE NEED TO MOVE SOMEBODY THEY WILL BE THERE TO DOCK FOR US WAITING AND WE WILL MOVE THE PATIENT FROM THE AMBULANCE DOWN TO THE BOW OF THE HAIG POINT DOCK AND WE SHOOT THEM STRAIGHT ACROSS THE HARBOR TOWN WHICH IS THE CLOSEST PLACE WE CAN GO TO SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ON THE WATER FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A 15 LESS THAN 15 MINUTES TO GET OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE OUR AMBULANCE THAT IS LOCATED AT BUCKINGHAM MOVES DOWN THE HARBOR TOWN. WE'LL BE THERE WAITING FOR THAT BOAT TO ARRIVE.

THEY WILL TAKE THE PATIENT AND THEN THEY WILL MOVE THEM TO WHICHEVER HOSPITAL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CARE. IF THE EMERGENCY IS SUCH THAT WE DON'T FEEL THAT A BOAT RIDE IS AN ORDER OR WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A BOAT RIDE, THEN WE WILL CALL IN FOR AIR BACK AND HAVE THE HELICOPTER COME AND REMOVE THEM FROM THE ISLAND. SO EITHER WAY WE GO THERE IS THERE IS A KIND OF A THREE STEP PROCESS THAT WE USE FOR THAT MANY COUNTY AMBULANCES ARE ON HOW MANY COUNTY AMBULANCES ARE ON THE MAINLAND ONCE YOU GET OVER TO A POINT OR TWO SEAPORTS WE HAVE TEN TEN TEN. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

IS THERE ANY VALUE TO AN AMBULANCE THAT WE TAKE OUT OF SERVICE? I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY VALUE TO AN AMBULANCE THAT WE TAKE OUT OF SERVICE OR WHAT? YEAH, THERE'S STILL VALUE TO THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM. SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE THEM RUNNING AROUND TOWN HOME FIX REPAIR EMERGENCY HOME FIX REPAIRS.

THEY DO SEE THE AMBULANCES. WE'LL GO THERE SOMETIMES WE GET REQUESTS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY WANT TO USE THEM AS SORT OF LIKE KIND OF LOGISTICS TRUCK TO BACKUP THEIR FRONTLINE RESPONDERS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO AN INCIDENT. SO YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME USE EVEN AFTER WE'RE FINISHED WITH THEM. AND WHAT'S THE USEFUL LIFE OF THESE FOUR? NORMALLY WE TRY TO PULL THE FRONTLINES OF NO LESS THAN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND MILES. THEN THEY MOVE BACK TO THE SECOND TIER AND THEN USUALLY THEY'LL RUN TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND TO TWENTY BEFORE THEY GET PULLED OFF SECOND TIER. ALL RIGHT. I CAN LIST FOR ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE IN VIRGINIA? YEP. AT MR. MCCOLLUM? YES. I'LL BE NO. THOUGHT THE VOTE COUNTS MOVED ON TO FULL COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION AS CHRIS WAS THAT YOUR HAND UP? OK, HEAD START. NO MORE DISCUSSION.

WITHOUT OBJECTION WE MOVE THIS END TO FULL COUNCIL LEAVE NO OBJECTION.

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ARPA GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, MUNICIPALITY FUNDING REQUESTS (FISCAL IMPACT TOTAL $950,000: CITY OF BEAUFORT $250,000; TOWN OF PORT ROYAL $500,000; TOWN OF YEMASSEE $200,000)]

RIGHT HERE. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON THEN. TO NUMBER TWELVE RECOMMEND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ARPA GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM LIKE MR. MUNSON. YOU'RE UP.

SO THANK YOU, SIR FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. TODAY'S ARPA PRESENTATION IS ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM WHEN YOU ACCEPTED THE FUNDS EARLIER THIS YEAR. THAT WAS A PORTION OF THE DOLLARS THAT WERE SET UP TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE MUNICIPALITIES.

SO THAT THEY COULD ACCOMPLISH SOME LOCALIZED INITIATIVES WITH SOME OF COUNTY FUNDING.

THE FIRST THREE REQUESTED IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THE FIRST THREE.

HOWEVER, ALL SIX MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATIVE AND IF THEY HAVEN'T PRESENTED THEIR IN THE FINAL STAGES OF REQUESTING FOR EITHER THE NEXT ONE OR TWO MEETINGS.

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IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THEM I CAN GO THROUGH THEM OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS INDIVIDUALLY. THAT'S UP TO YOU. BUT BEAUFORT CITY BEAUFORT HAS REQUESTED 250 THOUSAND OF THEIR 500. THE SPECIFICS OF THAT ARE IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, CYBERSECURITY, PUBLIC HOUSING. THOSE ARE THE THREE CATEGORIES WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO BECAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY A SUB GRANTING TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WE MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE REQUEST IS FITS INTO THE ARPA REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT'S OUR JOB TO REPORT BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AFTER THE EXPENDITURE.

THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS ONCE WE DO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS WE WILL THEN BE IN CONTACT TO MONITOR THAT THE FUNDS WERE USED FOR THE REQUESTED SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN THEN CLOSE OUT THE SUB GRANT WHICH WILL BE PART OF OUR GRANT PORT ROYAL BEING LISTED HERE FROM PORT ROYAL. THERE WILL BE USED FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION AND ALSO FOR A SEWER PROJECT BECAUSE OF SOME INCREASED COSTS IN WATER AND SEWER AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ARE SPECIFICALLY DELINEATED AS ELIGIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE MSE HAS PUT FORTH THE REQUEST FOR A SIDEWALK PROJECT AND THIS FITS BECAUSE IT'S IN SERVICE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IN SUPPORT OF THOSE MOST AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC AND THE LOW INCOME AREAS AND COUNTY WILL BE HANDLING THE ACTUAL PROJECT ADMINISTRATION THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH CERTAIN POLICIES.

BUT ALL OTHER ENGINEERING SERVICES WILL BE HANDLED BY PRIVATE ENGINEER.

VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. >> I APOLOGIZE I SHOULD HAVE INTRODUCED YOU AS OUR OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS DIRECTOR. MR. MUNSON WHICH AGAIN I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY WHAT YOU'VE GOT GOING ON SO FAR. THAT'S A GREAT. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING MISS SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THIS OR MOVE THIS AGAINST MISS OUR THANK YOU SECOND MISS ANY MORE DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION LET'S PUT THIS FORWARD. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS TO COUNCIL FOR A FULL VOTE SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS ASK APPROVES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK ALL. ALL RIGHT.

AND NEXT TO GET MOVING HERE NUMBER ELEVEN 13 13 IS BEING AT HILTON HEAD PUBLIC SERVICE

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE HILTON HEAD PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT ARPA PROJECTS REQUEST (FISCAL IMPACT: $1,000,000.00 FROM THE ARPA ALLOCATION)]

SO WE'VE HAD A REQUEST PRESENTED TO US. WE DID NOT ALLOCATE ANY MONEY FOR WATER PROJECTS TO ANY OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY OR FOR ANY OTHER PROJECTS TO PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICTS. SO THE COUNTY WE HAVE THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY THE STAFF HAS NO POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO THIS. BUT THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND AND THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE YOU DO THIS FOR ONE PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT I I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU ALL ARE AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD WE'LL BE FACED WITH HAVING TO ADJUST YOUR ARPA PLAN TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICTS.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MCCALLUM NOW. I THINK MR. ALLEN HE WANTS TO INTRODUCE THE SPEAKERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON PRESENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ERIC. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TODAY TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE COME TO TALK ABOUT THIS REQUEST. FRANK TORONTO WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF PUBLIC SERVICE. DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

AND PETE NARDI WHO IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE ON HILTON HEAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORDER WILL BE WITH REGARD TO HOW YOU SPEAK, BUT PETE, WELCOME. HAPPY TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR COMING OVER, SIR.

YES, IT'S. REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD ON THE ESCORT SERVICE

LONGER HAD YOU THOUGHT YOU MIGHT STOP WITH THIS MATTER? >> YES.

I WILL BE BACK AND IF YOU WANT TO. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M.

WELL, I'LL SEND YOU A TEXT OR E-MAIL TO COME BACK. IT'S A GREAT.

SO MUCH COULD BE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MACALLAN AND COMMITTEE.

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SO THIS REQUEST YOU KNOW BACK IN 2021 WHEN THE ARPA MONEYS WERE BEING ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTIES MUNICIPALITIES OUR INDUSTRY HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AS AN INDUSTRY WITH THE PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER INDUSTRY WE WERE ALL ENCOURAGED TO REACH OUT AT THAT TIME TO OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES WERE RECEIVING THE THE ARPA FUNDING BECAUSE AS MR. ONCE POINTED OUT, WATER WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE KEY USES FOR THE ART MONEY.

SO WE PUT THAT OUT IN 2021 TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS TO THE MUNICIPALITIES, THE STATE YOU ALL ALL THE ENTITIES RECEIVING ALLOCATIONS, THE REQUESTS THAT'S IN FRONT

OF YOU. >> WE'VE PARED DOWN SINCE THEN. BUT WHAT WE WOULD PUT IT TOWARD IS TWO REALLY KEY ASSETS FOR THE FOR THE UTILITY ON HILTON HEAD.

ONE IS A BOOSTER STATION THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY MOVE WATER AROUND IN OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM RESILIENCY WISE ON HILTON HEAD. WE REALLY FACE TWO KEY THREATS TO THE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM. ONE IS OF COURSE NATURAL DISASTERS WHICH WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING OUR WATER SYSTEM DAMAGED IN HURRICANES IN RECENT YEARS, ESPECIALLY HURRICANE MATTHEW IN 2016.

AND THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER THREAT WE STILL FACED ON THE ISLAND IS THE ONGOING LOSS OF OUR FRESHWATER PORTION OF OUR SUPPLY TO SALTWATER INTRUSION INTO THE FRESHWATER PART OF THE AQUIFER. SO WHEN WE LOSE THAT SUPPLY AND WE LOSE WELLS TO THE SALTWATER INTRUSION, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THAT DISTRIBUTION PUMPING THAT THE WELL REPRESENTS.

>> AND SO WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN PUTTING THESE BOOSTER STATIONS IN TO REALLY JUST HELP US MOVE WATER IN THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. WE HAVE ONE ON JENKINS ISLAND A KIND OF IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A LOT OF PUMPING HIGH SERVICE PUMPING THAN THE OTHER PROJECT. THAT'S WHAT THE BOOSTER STATION LOOKS LIKE EXTERNALLY.

THE OTHER PROJECT IS TO PLACE EMERGENCY GENERATOR AT OUR REVERSE OSMOSIS DRINKING WATER PRODUCTION FACILITY WHICH IS ALSO ON JENKINS ISLAND. THE MAJORITY OF OUR SUPPLY ON HILTON HEAD IS COMING FROM BRACKISH GROUNDWATER THAT WE'RE TREATING IN AN ARO PLANT LOCATED ON JENKINS ISLAND RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HARBOR. THAT PLANT DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAVE ANY EMERGENCY GENERATOR CAPABILITY ON IT WAS BUILT IN 2009 AND THAT KIND OF KIND OF ASSET WASN'T ADDED TO IT. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO JUST PUT KIND OF A STANDARD DIESEL GENERATOR AT THAT PLANT EMERGENCY GENERATOR. IT WOULD ENERGIZE ABOUT HALF OF THE PRODUCTION PLANT. SO IT'S A FOUR MILLION GALLONS A DAY PLANT PRODUCES FOUR MILLION GALLONS DRINKING WATER A DAY. IT WOULD LET US PUT PUT 2 MILLION GALLONS OUT INTO THE SYSTEM. WHAT WE FOUND IS HAVING THESE KIND ROBUST PRODUCTION ASSETS, THESE KIND OF EMERGENCY GENERATOR, IT'S REALLY KEY IN THE DISASTER RECOVERY. THE QUICKER WE CAN RECOVER THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, THE QUICKER THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS RECOVERING WHICH CUTS DOWN THE COSTS OBVIOUSLY OF A RECOVERY AND A MITIGATING THE DISASTER. THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE GIST OF THIS.

HILTON HEAD GOVERNMENT HAS PUT SOME ARPA MONEY TOWARD SEWER ON THE ISLAND.

THEY PUT TWO HUNDRED K TOWARD A SEWER CONNECTION GRANT PROGRAM TO KIND OF COMPLEMENT AN ONGOING SEWER CONNECTION GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE ON THE ISLAND THE UTILITY.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES IN THE STATE WAS WE DID NOT RECEIVE DIRECT ALLOCATIONS OF ARPA. INSTEAD THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CREATED A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE FOR ALL THE WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES TO GO AFTER THE ARPA MONEY FOR WATER AND SEWER. IT'S GOT ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN IT. WE ARE SEEKING A GRANT AWARD UNDER THAT PROGRAM AS WELL.

THE IDEA THERE IS THE STATE IS SEEKING GENERATIONAL PROJECTS AND SEEKING TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS FOR US. WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLETE THE CAPACITY IN THAT REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT, TAKE IT TO SIX MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF PRODUCTION WHICH WOULD REPRESENT ABOUT OUR BASELINE OUR AVERAGE DAY DEMAND FOR DRINKING WATER.

SO BE REALLY HE WAY OF HAVING THE ISLAND GET MORE RESILIENT MORE MORE OF ITS GROUNDWATER FOR ITS OWN PURPOSES AND THEN THE OTHER. THE OTHER PROJECT WE'RE SEEKING UNDER THAT COMPETITIVE PROGRAM IS CALLED A AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY.

WELL WE ALREADY DO THAT ON THE ISLAND. WE HAVE ONE ON THE NORTH END THERE, A COUPLE IN THE SOUTH AND THESE ARE WELLS WHERE WE ACTUALLY USE THEM TO BOTH STORE

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THANKS PETE. I ENCOURAGED THE PSP ONE TO MAKE THE SUBMISSION HERE BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THE ARPA FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BUILDING AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING DESIRE ON THE PART OF THE PSC ONE AND I ENCOURAGE THEM TO MAKE THIS SUBMISSION SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO FUND THIS WITH THE EXISTING ARPA MONEY THAT IS USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BUILDING. NOW AS MR. GREENWAY POINTED OUT, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT OTHERS MAY COME TO ASK US FOR THE MONEY AND I CERTAINLY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT IF WE HAVE A WELL OF MONEY AND THEY NEED IT.

AND IT'S NOT MONEY THAT THEY COULD GET FROM OTHER REVENUE SOURCES AND THEY HAVEN'T FALLEN SHORT ON THEIR OWN MILEAGE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH US USING THE OPERA MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BALANCE TO HELP THE PSC.

THESE SUPPLY THIS VERY IMPORTANT AND VITAL ELEMENT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE BOTH IN THE UNINCORPORATED AND INCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY. SO THEY HERE AT MY REQUEST AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THEY WOULD GET FOR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION HERE WITH THIS REQUEST. THANK. MACALLAN IS THERE IS OPEN US UP IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS PRESIDENT?

>> YES, SIR. HAVE YOU ALSO APPROACHED HILTON HEAD ISLAND? YES. ARE THEY WILLING TO PARTICIPATE? WELL, MIKE, I WAS POINTING OUT THEY WENT ON THE SEWER SIDE OF THINGS AND DID THE SEWER CONNECTION GRANT PROGRAM WHICH THEY ENVISION AS A MULTI-YEAR PROGRAM THAT.

YES, I DID. THANK YOU, FRANK. I SHOULD POINT OUT THE TOWN THE TOWN GOVERNMENT GOING BACK TO THOSE COMPETITIVE PROGRAMS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN GOVERNMENTS WORKING VERY WELL WITH THE PSC RIGHT NOW TO PROVIDE THE LAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD OUT THE REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANTS CAPACITY .

WE'LL HAVE TO DIG A NEW WELL TO TAKE IT TO ITS FULL CAPACITY AND THEY'RE ALSO HELPING US WITH THE LAND WE'LL NEED FOR THAT SECOND OFFER FOR STORAGE AND RECOVERY FACILITY.

>> WE'LL PUT THEM ONE ON PUBLICLY OWNED LANDS. THANK YOU.

>> FRIENDS IF YOU WANT ANYTHING TO PITCH. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

YES. WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY IS THAT WATER IS JUST NOT A COMMODITY. IT'S A IT'S A SOURCE OF LIFE AND WATER ON HILTON HEAD.

LIKE IN MANY OTHER AREAS IS IS BEING CHALLENGED. WE'RE CHALLENGED EVERY DAY AND WE'RE CHALLENGED EVERY DAY TO COME UP WITH NEW SOURCES OF WATER OR HOW TO IMPROVE WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS PROJECT. THIS THAT IS OFTEN MONEY WILL HELP US IN THAT IT AFFECT THE NEXT FOUR MOUSSAOUI TO THINK AND THEN MR. GLOVER. YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. WHAT OTHER DISTRICTS DO WE THINK WILL COME TO ASK FOR MONEY IN A SIMILAR SITUATION IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS? AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHEN THE STATE WILL FUND THESE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO USE LOCAL MONEY? THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE NO CLUE.

YOU KNOW, THEY MONEY OUT FOR BROADBAND BUT THERE'S THEY REALLY HAVE DONE NOTHING WITH THAT. RIGHT NOW WE KEPT WAITING FOR THE PROCESS SO I HAVE NO ANSWER FOR THAT. BUT AND I GUESS YOUR FIRST QUESTION I GUESS ALL OF IT WILL NOT BE A DETAILED ENOUGH. YEAH SURE. BUT I DO EXPECT WANT TO SUE I'LL MAKE THIS DECISION FOR ALL OF THEM TO COME FORWARD. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD A REQUEST FROM FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT FIRST ON WATER ALLOCATIONS FIRST WATER ASSISTANCE OUT THERE. SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT. I THINK THERE IS A RURAL WATER SYSTEM OUT OF ALL ST. HELENA THAT'S LOOKING FOR HELP WITH SOME FIRE HYDRO INSTALLATIONS BUT THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THE INSTALLATION OF A WHOLE NEW LINE BECAUSE THE LINES

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>> SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A MULTITUDE COMING IN FOR A HUGE BILL FOR STORMWATER.

YEAH, I ANTICIPATE. HOW MUCH MONEY IS THERE AVAILABLE?

>> I THINK HANK WOULD PROBABLY KNOW BETTER THAN I. BUT WE WE I THINK WE PUT ABOUT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN THE ARPA MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS BUT WE WE COULD TAP THOSE AS ADMINISTRATION FOR USES IN EXTENDING THE WATER SERVICES IN A REAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY. AND I HAD WAS GOING TO BRING FORWARD A PROJECT HERE SHORTLY TO PUT A WATER LINE CONNECTION FROM 20 1 3 MORGAN ROAD OUT THE KING'S NECK ROAD BECAUSE WELL SITUATION THERE WITH THE POTENTIAL WITH THE LIBBY CHEMICAL PLANT.

SO THIS WOULD THIS MONEY WOULD IF YOU ALL TAKE THAT MONEY AND ALLOCATED TO PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICTS COURSE WE'LL HAVE TO FIND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO YOU TO TO DO THAT.

AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. WE HAVE 37 MILLION DOLLARS ARBOR MONEY BUT COUNCIL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE PLANS FOR ALL OF THAT. THIRTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS AND IF WE START FUNDING OTHER THINGS WITH THAT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE FROM OTHER PROJECT ON THAT LIST. SO GLOVER THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. GREEN, WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT OFFERED FUNDS SAYING HOLLANDER HAD NEVER AN OFFICIAL REQUESTS. BUT I ASKED MR. GREENWAY TO SET ASIDE MONEY FOR LEASING ON THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF FIRE SAFETY AS WELL AS WATER LINES IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT IN A RURAL AREA AND THAT BEING SERVED AT THIS TIME.

SO THOSE THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE AND IN FOUR MILLION DOLLARS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. TO DO THOSE TYPE OF PROJECT IS TOUGH BUT SOME FUNDS HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE NOW. MR. NADER NAUGHTY, NAUGHTY, NAUGHTY, NAUGHTY.

I'M SORRY. >> HELP ME. >> I REMEMBER I DON'T KNOW 10, 15, 20 YEARS AGO. THE WATER SITUATION ON HILTON HEAD WITH THE SALT WATER INTRUSION HAS BEEN A MAJOR PROBLEM. AND THE COMMUNITY OPT TO CONTINUE TO DRILL FOR WATER. AND PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY I THINK YOU'VE MISTAKE IN ACTUALLY WE'RE SEEING WATER FROM BEFORE JUST WATER AUTHORITY.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE SALT WATER INTRUSION IS GOING TO BE HERE.

>> THOUGH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU'RE USING AT THIS TIME OR YOU IMPLY AT THIS TIME BUT THAT'S WHAT MORE INTRUSION IS GOING TO BE HERE. AND IT'S BEEN WARNED THAT EVEN FARMERS ON STAYING HOME HAS BEEN FACED WITH HELPED ME UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTINUING THAT EFFORT VERSUS GETTING MORE WATER FROM BEFORE JUST WATER FOR THE SAVANNAH

RIVER, OK? >> SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. COUNCILMAN GAVIN, THE YOU KNOW THE RESOURCES OF BEING FOR JASPER WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY ARE LIMITED IN THEIR ABILITY TO PROVIDE WATER ON HILTON HEAD IS LIMITED. YOU ALL MIGHT RECALL THEIR NEWS THAT THEY HAD TO PUT OUT THIS PAST SUMMER THAT THEY WERE NEARING THEIR PEAK CAPACITY.

SO WHAT THEY'VE HAD TO DO IS DEAL WITH A LOT OF GROWTH AND A LOT NEW DEMAND FOR WATER HERE ON THE MAINLAND. AND THAT'S LIMITS WHAT THEY CAN DO ON HILTON HEAD.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIMITED OVER THERE ANYWAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE WITH THEM, RIGHT? WE HAVEN'T WE HAVE A 24 BURIED PIPELINE UNDER THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY. IT'LL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT OF THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT WILL BE THE RELOCATE MISSION OF THAT CRITICAL PIPELINE.

SO THE REASON THE RESOURCES LIMITED HILTON HEAD HAS SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES MORE THAN THAT. CREATING ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF THE FRESHWATER PORTION OF THE AQUIFER.

SO THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, UNBRIDLED GROWTH, NOT CARING ABOUT WATER.

THIS IS REPLACING WATER THAT WE'VE LOST BECAUSE OF GETTING THE SALTWATER INTO IT.

ARE THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND TWO KEY DECISIONS WERE MADE LATE 90S.

ONE WAS TO BUILD THE PIPELINE TO THE MAINLAND SO WE COULD HAVE SOME SOME WHOLESALE WATER

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WE WERE TAKING WATER FROM THE BRACKISH PART THE AQUIFER. IT'S ALREADY SALTY.

WE TREAT IT WITH THE REVERSE OSMOSIS TO TURN IT INTO DRINKING WATER.

IT'S A PROCESS. U.S. NAVY BEGAN IT, YOU KNOW, DECADES AGO AND IT'S REALLY IT'S HOW YOU MAKE BOTTLED BRAND NAME BOTTLED WATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YEAH, I MEAN THIS IS REPLACEMENT OF SUPPLY. THIS IS KEEPING THAT THIS IS KEEPING THE SYSTEM VIABLE DESPITE THE THREAT OF THE INTRUSION THAT IS AS YOU SAY IT IS ONGOING. I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW WHERE WE WORK WITH YOU FOR JASPER ALL THE TIME. THERE'S ALSO ECONOMICS INVOLVED TOO.

RIGHT? BEFORE JASPER IS FOR OUR UTILITY THAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE SOURCE OF WATER THAT OUR UTILITY FACES THE PEAK SEASON WE HAVE TO BUY IT AT NEARLY TWO DOLLARS PER THOUSAND GALLONS IN THE OFF PEAK SEASON WE HAVE DIVIDED OVER A DOLLAR PER THOUSAND GALLONS. THAT'S COMPARED TO THE ISLAND'S OWN GROUNDWATER WHICH WE CAN PRODUCE AND PUT OUT THERE FOR ABOUT 50 60 CENTS FOR A THOUSAND GALLONS.

SO THERE'S ECONOMICS INVOLVED THERE TOO. BUT THESE PROJECTS INCLUDING THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING FOR THE STATE MONEYS I'D LIKE TO COUNCILMAN HOWARD'S QUESTION THE STATE ISN'T THESE TWO PARTICULAR PROJECTS ARE ON THE STATE'S TABLE ALL BECAUSE THE STATE BUT THE UTILITIES INTO THIS COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM WHERE THEY WANT GENERATIONAL TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WENT TO THE OK, WE NEED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUPPLY ITSELF THAT'S BUILDING OUT THE ARROW PLANT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THEY ALL LIKE I SAY THEY ALL DO KIND OF WORK HAND IN GLOVE TO GET THE SUPPLY.

NO POINT IN HAVING IT IF YOU CAN'T GET IT TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE IN NEED OF IT.

>> SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THESE PRODUCTS IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS ARE HANDLING.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION THAT GO BACK TO ALYSSA OVER HERE AND SHE HAS ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO IN YOUR CURRENT FEES THAT YOU CHARGE, DO YOU DO HAVE RESERVES BUILT IN? DO YOU HAVE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUILT INTO THE FEES YOU'RE CURRENTLY CHARGING

YOUR CUSTOMERS? WE DO. >> YOU KNOW, AND SO CERTAINLY WITH THE IDEA OF THESE ARPA MONIES IS TO THIS IS FEDERAL MONEY WITH THE IDEA THAT IT BE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND SO PART OF THE IDEA IS THAT THE SAME RATES, THE SAME FEES WHICH WHICH ONLY DO YOU KNOW INCREMENTALLY GO UP ANYWAY BUT THAT THEY CAN BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE OTHER EXISTING ASSETS USING THE LOCAL FUNDS EVEN THE ADDITION AND THE OPERATION OF THE NEWER ASSETS WHEN WE BRING THEM ON. I'LL HAVE TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE LOCAL RATES AND TAXES. COUNCILMAN HOWARD, I JUST LET YOU MAKE A COMMENT.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR IN CASE OF HURRICANE AND OTHER THINGS AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY WORTHY, WORTHY PROJECT AN IDEA I HESITATE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP TO DO THIS. I THINK WE NEED A CHART SHOWING US. OK, WELL WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONNECT THE FIRE HYDRANTS THAT NEED NEW WORK AND HELENA TO DO THIS OR I'D LIKE TO SEE A GRAPH THAT SHOWS OK IF WE DO THIS, WHAT ARE WE GONNA GIVE UP IN? I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION LIKE I COULDN'T VOTE TO PUT THIS FORWARD WITHOUT KNOWING.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA FIND THE MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE WE'RE GONNA FIND IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF WE COULD MAKE A EDUCATED DECISION ABOUT IT. YEAH. SO LET ME MAKE.

>> LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING YOU ALL NECESSARILY SHOULD NOT DO THIS IF IF THIS GENERATES ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FROM ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICTS OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE GROUPS OUT THERE ,THEN AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP AND IN THE A PROJECT LIST. >> BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL

BE LOOKED AT AT THE SAME TIME. >> AND WE'RE HAPPY TO. WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THAT OUT.

IF YOU ALL WANT US TO DO THAT TO PUT IT OUT TO ALL THE PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT AND SAY HEY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU ARE HAVING PROJECTS YOU WANT FUNDING AND MAKE IT A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION ON AS THE COMMITTEE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO COUNCIL THAT THIS MAY NOT BE THE ONLY REQUEST LIKE THIS FOR COMMENT PARTICULARLY IF YOU FUND THIS. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE FIRST COME FIRST.

LIKE MY THANK YOU MR. ROBERT. >> YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH ALICE THAT WE DO NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD COME OFF . IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION. I THINK IN TERMS OF THIS SALT INTRUSION AND PETE, I MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME THIS IS A VERY LONG TERM MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THE ISLAND OF OF HELMAND AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT ON THE GEORGIA SIDE THEY ARE DRAWING FROM THE AQUIFER RATHER THAN DRAWING FROM THE SAVANNAH RIVER. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S IT DOWN. AND SO WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR STATE THAT'S REALLY CREATING A MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM FOR US. SO I'M INCLINED TO THINK THIS

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AND THEN THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITY AREAS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ST. HELENA ISLAND SHELTON THAT I LOOK AT MY DISTRICT WHERE I'VE GOT ALL JOY THAT HAS SHE'S DOWN THERE.

YOU'VE GOT THE ROSE DO CREEK AREA MY AREA YOU'VE GOT HIGH COUNTS THAT THAT ARE IN THE RIVER THAT NEEDS THAT NEED SEWER I'M SURE IN SOME PLACES OKATIE THERE IN MY DISTRICT AND THEN AS YOU GO THEN INTO MORE RURAL AREAS IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY.

MR DAWSON'S AREA AS WELL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME AREAS THERE. SO YEAH, IF WE DO DECIDE TO DO THIS AGAIN WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE OPENING UP FOR LOTS OF THE PEOPLE SAY HEY WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT OUR AREA IN THE COUNTY? WHAT ABOUT US? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? SO IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATION FROM FROM THIS COMMITTEE?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD ALSO DISCUSS IS TO TO HAVE FACTUAL INFORMATION.

I BELIEVED WHEN WE PUT THE ARK FUNDS TOGETHER WE SET ASIDE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THREE OR FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IF IT WAS THREE BUT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY THERE THAT COULD BE USED FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS. HUBBELL OK, OK. SO WE HAVE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE ANY ONE OF THE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS SHOULD COME OUT OF THAT FUNDS WITHOUT NOW SAYING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FROM THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO USE ALL THE MONEY HERE. WE HAVE SET ASIDE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE SPENDING THE THIRTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS.

THE MERE FACT THAT THEY'RE THE FIRST IN LINE DOESN'T BOTHER ME IF THE OTHERS COME.

WELL, OK, IF WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS OUT OF THE 4 MILLION THAT'S 3 MILLION DOLLARS LEFT THE NEXT PROJECT COULD BE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE HAVE A FIXED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING IN THIS AREA AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE'VE TARGETED ALL OF THAT MONEY TO BE USED ELSEWHERE.

BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT THE REQUESTS ARE THAT MIGHT NOT GOING INTO NOT GOING TO BE SUPPLEMENTING OR SUPPLANTING, AS YOU POINTED OUT, REVENUE THAT THEY WOULD BE COLLECTING ON THEIR OWN FOR THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE DONE MAINTENANCE THAT SHOULD BE DONE. PATIENTS IT'S ESSENTIALLY FOR IMPROVEMENTS PARTICULARLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A REQUEST DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. IT REALLY HAS TO BE EXAMINED TO SEE IF IT HAS A WORTHWHILE PLACE IN THE LINEUP FOR THINGS TO BE FUNDED.

I BELIEVE THIS CERTAINLY DOES BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE ENFORCED TRUE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MOVE THE WATER AND TO CREATE MORE WATER AVAILABILITY.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT ALL SIX OF THE PIECES ARE GOING TO COME IN WITH REQUESTS AS PRACTICAL AS THIS ONE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHAT DOES THIS COMMITTEE WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IT WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND COME BACK, PUSH US TO THE HAVE A VOTE AND HAVE US DECIDE WHETHER WE DENY OR APPROVE THIS. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. ERIC? YES.

WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE WISHES OF THE COMMITTEE? >> WELL, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS ONE WAY WHICH WOULD BE SO I THINK ABOUT THE THIRD OF OTHERS TO SEE.

NO SENSE MAKING A MOTION THAT NO ONE WILL SUPPORT. SO IF THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE A BETTER IDEA AND THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEFER THIS TILL WE SEE IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED OR IF THEY COME IN WITH LARGER REQUESTS THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ANALYZE AND JUSTIFY I WOULD I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD BUT I WON'T DO THAT IN THE FACE OF THE OPPOSITION I'M HEARING HERE. SO IS THIS SOMETHING, ERIC, THAT WE COULD WORK OUT BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT FINANCE MEETING AND GETTING MORE

INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY? >> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT MIGHT BE THE OTHER OPTIONS AND AGAIN I THINK THAT YOU PROBABLY HAD PLANS FOR THAT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS AS WELL THINGS THAT THAT YOUR STAFF WAS ALREADY THINKING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON ANYTHING THAT WE APPROVED TO TO GO TO WHATEVER DISTRICT IT IS THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM SOMETHING ELSE THAT THAT STAFF THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT AS WELL. YEAH.

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I THINK I THINK JOE KIND OF NAILED IT IN A SENSE IF WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR BILLION WE DON'T WANT TO SIT ON THAT FOREVER. SO THIS MAY BE A VERY GOOD EXERCISE TO SEE WHAT ELSE MIGHT BE OUT THERE. I'D HATE TO SEE US GET INTO OH EVERYBODY'S GOT TO RUSH IN BECAUSE THERE'S SOME MONEY. BUT REALLY WE OUGHT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO WHAT MOST DESERVING PROJECTS. I THINK THAT MONTH GIVES A TIME TO START LOOK AT THAT AND OTHER DISPARITIES OR SERVICE DISTRICTS AWAY.

I GUESS IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE SO IT.

SO THE EMOTIONS SECOND ON THE TABLE. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT MOTION SEEING NO OBJECTION. WE WILL THEN POSTPONE THIS TILL THE NEXT FINANCE MEETING.

[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE HIRING OF AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO SERVE COLLETON COUNTY]

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT WE HAVE PROOF OF RESOLUTION AND THIS IS NUMBER 14 THE HIRING OF AN ADDITIONAL FULL TIME EMPLOYEE AT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO SERVE CULLERTON COUNTY. YES.

WE RECENTLY RECEIVED WORD FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND CALL IN COUNTY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HIRE ANOTHER PUBLIC DEFENDER IN COLLIN COUNTY OFFICE TO WORK IN COLLIN COUNTY SINCE WE ARE THE ADMINISTRATING COUNTY FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND WE BRING FULL TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS FOR YOU ALL. WE THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD BRING THIS BEFORE YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL. WE HAVE BACKUP MATERIAL AND THE IN THE PACKAGE THAT FROM COLLIN COUNTY MAKING THIS REQUEST I WOULD REQUEST THAT IF YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THIS DATE THAT YOU COMMIT THAT YOU CONDITION THAT RECOMMENDATION ON COLLIN COUNTY PROVIDING THE FUNDING FOR AS LONG AS THIS POSITION EXISTS AND IF THEY FAIL TO FUND IT, THEN BEAUFORT COUNTY IS NOT OBLIGATED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO CONTINUE THIS LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

>> IS THAT CLEAR? YES. I JUST HAVE TO SAY ON MY DRIVING QUESTION ARE ANY ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS REQUEST? ALL RIGHT. SO NO QUESTIONS WHAT YOU'VE JUST HEARD.

IS THE FACT THAT CARLTON COUNTY IS GOING TO FUND THIS POSITION .

WE THEN NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS A AS A TEMPORARY POSITION THAT WE WOULD THEN BE A TEMPORARY POSITION EVERY YEAR AS LONG AS CARLTON COUNTY IS PROVIDING THE FUNDING FOR IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PERMANENT POSITION. AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT EVERY YEAR AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE FUNDING COMING. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE ON IT.

IS THERE SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? SURE.

I'LL MAKE A MR. MR. ROBBINS, OUR SECOND I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT. STRASSMANN THANK YOU. YES.

MOVE TO CHANGE THE RESOLUTION TO SPECIFY THE THEY MUST FULLY FUND THE THE POSITION AS LONG AS IT EXISTS. WHAT IS IT? SO I MEAN I WOULD I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO USE THE WORD TEMPORARY. THAT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY POSITION EVERY YEAR OR HOW. ERIC, WHAT'S THE OH DON'T BE A ANNUAL FUNDING FOR YOU ALL IN YOUR BUDGET. BUT WE ALL HAVE TO SECURE APPROVAL FROM COBB COUNTY EVERY YEAR AS WE'RE DOING IN OUR BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THAT POSITION. SO THE RESOLUTION WILL BE TAILORED TO STATE.

AND IT GOES TO COUNCIL THAT WE'VE GOT A ANYMORE DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT YOU CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY IF THERE'S A SPEAK UP IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. WE'LL TAKE THIS TO A VOTE.

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NOW THIS GOES TO COUNTY COUNCIL. ERIC, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN APPROVE HERE AND OUR FINANCING GO UP AGAINST THE COUNTY COUNCIL AS PART

[15. DISCUSSION OF AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOCATE THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THE MYRTLE BUSINESS PARK TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SITE AND JOB FUND]

YEAH. YES, I AM. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT I DON'T HAVE MUCH BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON BECAUSE THIS KIND OF HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF MY

TIME AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> MR. O'TOOLE IS HERE AND HE CAN SPEAK IN DETAIL ABOUT THOSE . SO BASICALLY THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION MANY MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE AT THE MYRTLE PARK PROJECT TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE EDC.

THAT AMOUNT IS 5 9 9 9 7 9 19. SO ALMOST SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MISSING A FEW DOLLARS.

THEY ARE NOW REQUESTING THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE TO BE ALLOCATED TO THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT AND JOB FUND. YOU ALL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT AND WE NEED TO GO

THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS TO DO THAT ALLOCATION. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND THIS WILL REQUIRE ALL MR. O'TOOLE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE. APPRECIATE IT. JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL THE BACKGROUND, TRY TO BE BRIEF BUT TO DATE WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS JUST UNDER FIVE YEARS BUT A QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS. THIRTEEN HUNDRED JOBS AVERAGING ABOUT FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. LAST YEAR WAS OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL YEAR WHERE WE BOOKED OVER 60 MILLION DOLLARS AND ANNOUNCED PROJECTS.

TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN JOBS SO WE THINK WE'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE JUST TO COME A LITTLE ON THE SITE AND JOBS FUND PROGRAM IN THE 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO OUR EXISTENCE, COUNCIL HAD INCENTIVIZED NEW JOBS AT ABOUT THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER NEW JOB.

SINCE YOU'VE INSTITUTED THIS FUND SITE JOB FUND WE HAVE BEEN AVERAGING UNDER TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS PER NEW JOB CREATED . SO WE THINK THAT'S A MEASURE OF EFFICIENCY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF THE BACKGROUND ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS OUR WORD. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND UP TO DATE WE HAVE BUILT 64000 SQUARE FOOT SPEC BUILDING OUT AT THE COMMERCE PARK AFTER TWO DECADES OF TRYING THE BUILDING.

THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY EIGHT DAYS AFTER THE OFFICIAIAIAIAIAIE OF YOU ATTENDED IS FULLY LEASED LEASED BY CHINA AND A COMPANY OUT OF CALIFORNIA THINK THAT'S GOD'S SAKE, JUST LET NO ONE

LISTENED TO HIM. >> HE'S MAKING SENSE BUT THAT WASN'T THAT FUNNY.

THANK YOU. WE WE HAVE THE SAME DEVELOPER NOW.

KEEP IN MIND WE'RE TRYING TO GET DEVELOPERS INTERESTED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IN A IN A SIZE AND SCALE THAT COMPLEMENTS WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. THE SAME DEVELOPERS LOOKING TO BUILD THE 72 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND ONE OF THE COMPANIES TAKING THE THIRTY TWO THOUSAND OUT OF OUR FIRST SPEC BUILDING IS LOOKING TO BUILD ITSELF A TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH NO LOCAL INCENTIVES TO DRIVE THE DEAL.

NOW IN TERMS OF ME BEING ABLE TO KEEP MY WORD, I HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS AND I HAVE TO REFLECT THAT MY CONVERSATIONS WITH COMPANIES.

SO WHEN I MET WITH THE COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 10, 2020 THE COUNCIL SAID MOTION BY CHRIS HERBERT SEAN SECONDED BY STU RODMAN AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY BY EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S STILL ON THIS COUNCIL THAT THE PROCEEDS OF THE OF THE SALE WOULD REPLENISH THE SITE AND JOB FUND ACCOUNT. KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT THE MYRTLE PARK PROJECT WAS FACILITATED BY ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN UTILITY TAX CREDITS TO FUND THE DEAL.

UTILITIES TEND TO GIVE IN TO THESE KIND OF FUNDS PROJECTS HOPING THAT IT WOULD REPLENISH OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE WHEN YOU VOTED ON FEBRUARY 18. WHAT IS A LITTLE IN 2020 UNANIMOUSLY? WHAT'S A LITTLE INTERESTING TO ME THOUGH IS THAT AT YOUR RETREAT ON NOVEMBER 3RD OF LAST YEAR IT WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT OUR OUR SITE AND

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IT INCLUDES THE FIVE NINETY NINE AND CHANGE BUT IT MITTS THE BOOK BY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND IN INTEREST AND SO I I SUGGEST THAT THERE'S NO REASON TO VOTE ON THIS ORDINANCE AS IT'S BEFORE YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED WHERE YOU PRAY UP TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD BUT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE IN THE THIRD THE THIRD WHEREAS WHEREAS THE PROPERTY ALSO ACCUMULATED ON UTILIZE UTC INTEREST OVER ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND AND THEN IN THE NOW THEY'RE FOR IT SHOULD BE A TRANSFER OF SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT CONFUSION BUT SOMEHOW BETWEEN WHAT WE HAD DELIVERED TO STAFF THE IRS AND THE ORDINANCE THE CRITICAL POINT THAT NEEDED RECONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE SUBMITTED THE ORIGINALLY I GUESS IN JUNE AND STAFF TOLD US TO PUT IT ON HOLD BECAUSE IT'S IT'S TWO ISSUES AND IT HAD TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO FINANCE. BUT IF YOU APPROVE WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'VE KIND OF ALREADY APPROVED THAT LESS THE ORDINANCE. SO ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. ANY QUESTIONS? SO LET SINCE THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL RIGHT NOW LET ME ASK THE THIS QUESTION THEN.

SO IF MONEY DID GO BACK TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOW THAT MONEY SPENT.

WHO DECIDES WHERE IT SPENT? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY? EXACTLY. AND THEN ALSO TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF FUNDING YOU'RE CURRENTLY GETTING FROM COUNCIL. DIFFERENT.

WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES I THINK THAT YOU GET RIGHT.

THOSE ARE WE CAN UNDERSTAND THEN YOUR YEARLY FUNDING AND THEN THIS ADDITIONAL SIX LOCALLY. WILL YOU YOU ALL APPROVE THE BUDGET.

>> SO THIS YEAR WE'RE GETTING A FOUR POINT THREE MIL AND THAT'S SIX HUNDRED SIX HUNDRED SEVEN SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND FIVE SIX . RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND AND CHANGE.

YOU'RE ALSO IN AND THAT STAYS WITH THE COUNTY AND ONLY AS WE EXPEND THE FUNDS WE SUBMIT INVOICES TO GET REIMBURSED. SO THAT'S A REIMBURSEMENT. BUT THOSE ONES STAY WITH THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY PAYS US THE THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO CONDUCT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY FOR OPERATIONS.

THESE FUNDS ARE ONLY USED TO CULTIVATE PRODUCT OR INCENTIVIZE JOBS AND THOSE DECISIONS THAT ONCE IT'S IN YOUR HANDS YOUR YOUR ACCOUNT OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE ALL APPROVALS OF THE STAFF BRINGS THEM TO THE BOARD AND THEY APPROVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. O'TOOLE? MR. ROBERT, THAT'S NOT REALLY FOR JOHN. I THINK THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE HAS GONE EXTREMELY WELL. THE NUMBERS THAT HE CITED I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS A MORE GENERAL ONE GIVEN THAT WE'RE GETTING A GOOD RETURN ON OUR MONEY AND WE'RE GONNA GET WHATEVER IT IS FIVE OR SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE IT SHOULD WE BE ACTUALLY TAKING A LOOK AT WHETHER WE KIND OF BUMP OUR OVERALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING IT IN ONE SILO? AND I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES WHAT WE TALK ABOUT NOW, BUT IT MIGHT BE USEFUL FOR US TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. I WILL SAY WE'LL BE SUBMITTING ANOTHER YES.

WHICH AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR ON ON PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT.

SO AND THEN WE CAN ALSO AT THAT TIME LOOK AT HOW WE'RE USING THE SITE JOB FUNDS BECAUSE MY POINT IS KIND OF AND I DIDN'T MAKE IT THAT WELL IS THAT WHEN COUNCIL SAID, YOU KNOW ON FEBRUARY 10TH TWO YEARS AGO I BEGAN TO PROGRAM THAT MONEY IN AND HAVING THIS APPROVED ALLOWS ME TO DELIVER ON PROMISES I MAKE IN TERMS OF PREPARING PRODUCT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON OUR CART WE HAVE NOTHING TO SELL. AND SO WE HAVE TO GET MORE PRODUCT BY EVIDENCE. WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE COMMERCE PART IS GERMANY.

>> SO THE RESULT, LUCIAN I MEAN THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE ASKING YOUR YOU'RE ASKING FOR

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BUT I CAN TELL YOU TWO YEARS AGO THE INTEREST EARNED ON UTC WAS 115.

SO I KNOW IN TWO YEARS THERE'S MORE IN THAT POT. WE DON'T NEED EVERY LAST PENNY BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, WE KEEP US WHOLE WITH THE MILL LOSS WE DISCUSSED AT YOUR RETREAT THAT 150 WOULD MAKE US ALL. AND SO IF YOU WANT I CAN I CAN READ THAT WHEREAS ONE MORE TIME OR YOU'RE ALL SET, MR. WE WANT TO DO A WAY IN SERIOUS. YEAH.

SO THERE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT A RETREAT AND OFFICIAL COUNCIL ACTION. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE DOING THE OFFICIAL COUNCIL ACTION NOW TO CARRY OUT WHAT YOU ALL HAD INDICATED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN WITH REGARDS THE INTEREST. I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS ON THAT.

BUT IF YOU ALL RECOMMEND THIS TO THE FULL ACCOUNT SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE INVESTIGATE THAT PROPERLY AND CORRECT THE ORDINANCE BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE YOU YOUR COUNCIL.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS ? IS THERE A WISH OF COUNCIL ME A MOVEMENT THAT YOU WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE. IS THERE A SECOND? MR. SMART, YOUR DISCUSSION. NO MORE DISCUSSION. DO WE NEED TO ROLL CALL VOTE? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT OBJECTION? IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I DO NOT SEE OR HEAR ANY OBJECTION SO WE WILL MOVE THIS

FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM OUR FINAL ITEM ON OUR AGENDA WAS REMOVED. SO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.