Aug 15, 2022 Community Services Committee

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APPEARING HERE TODAY. I HAVE A FEW ITEMS BECAUSE BEFORE WE GET TO YOUR

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>> I WELCOME MR. SOMERVILLE. JOE, WILL YOU GO OUT ON GO PAST HIM?

>> YES, I AM SO GREAT. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND A BIG HELLO TO ALL THE EXECUTIVE

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

OF INFORMATION ACT REX AND SIR. >> YES SIR. IT IS A MAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE. WHAT BRINGS SO MOVED YOU HAVE A SECOND PLEASE.

SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 2, 2022]

>> THERE ARE NONE. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. MAY I HAVE A MOTION SEEKING APPROVAL MINUTES? MAY 2ND MEANING REMOVED LIKE YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND IN THE

SECOND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY DISCUSSION DURING THE

DISCUSSION PROVES THE MINUTES WITHOUT WITHOUT EXCEPTION. >> ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTING OR NONE THE MINIATURE APPROVE AN ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH IS FOR SOME COMMENTS.

NEVER DO WE HAVE ANY PRIVACY. >> NO SIR WE DON'T. >> OKAY.

[7. PRESENTATION FROM THE LOWCOUNTRY GULLAH FOUNDATION]

THE DIRECTOR FOUNDATIONS HERE PRESENT WITH US TODAY AND THE WARM WELCOME TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. MARGARET, YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY PRELIMINARY COMMENTS BEFORE SHE

BEGINS? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> COMMITTEE MEMBERS YES, I AM.

I AM HAPPY TO INTRODUCE MR. GRAVES SELLER. SHE IS THE FOUNDER OF THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF FOUNDATION AND SHE IS HERE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT HER FOUNDATION DOES FOR FOR COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I WILL MAKE A BRIEF NOTE. IT SAYS WILL BE AND VIDEOTAPE WILL BE IN THE ARCHIVE OR ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO ARE NOT ONLINE JOINING US CHAMBERS AND OF COURSE ANYBODY

OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SEE IT. >> I'M HOPING THAT MR. HART, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE WILL MAKE NOTE OF THAT AND IT EXPECTS THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

>> PLEASE LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW AT THIS PRESENTATION WAS MADE AND IS AVAILABLE THROUGH COUNTY COUNCIL CHANNEL ARCHIVES. THANK YOU.

PRIVATE SELLERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> HAPPY TO SEE YOU.

HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT LOW COUNTRY DOLLAR FOUNDATION.

>> CAN YOU SHARE MY SCANDALOUS AFTER CLICK SHARE FROM SHARE OR ASSOCIATIONS OF .

YES, YOU GIVE AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU. GIVING YOU SOME INFORMATION NOT ONLY ABOUT THE LOW COUNTRY FOUNDATION BUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF FOUNDATION HAS TO DO A TWO TO DUAL PURPOSES.

ONE IS TO PROTECT AND PROVIDE SOLUTIONS FOR GULLAH LAND USES AND ISSUES AS WELL SERVE BEAUFORT COUNTY. AND SO OUR MISSION IS TO PROTECT THE GULLAH CULTURE'S GREATEST ASSET WHICH IS HISTORIC GENERATIONAL LAND FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY LANDOWNERS BY PROVIDING FINANCIAL LITERACY AND SUPPORT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS AND HEIRS PROPERTY SOLUTIONS TO FAMILIES WHO ARE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR PROPERTY BY EITHER FAMILY DIVISION OR AT THE ANNUAL BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX SALE. SO OUR GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE ALL OF THE NAMES FOR GULLAH FAMILIES FROM THE BEAUFORT COUNTY DELINQUENT TAX LIST BY ESTABLISHING CUSTOMIZED SOLUTIONS THAT END THE CYCLE OF INSECURITY AND CREATE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE FAMILIES BUT ALSO BENEFIT

BEAUFORT COUNTY. >> AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO DELINQUENT TAXES THERE ARE

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THERE'S DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING ON AROUND THEM.

SOME OF THE LAND IS LEFT VACANT OR MOST IMPORTANTLY THERE IS A LACK OF INFORMATION.

AND SO PART OF THE SOLUTIONS TO SOLVING THE DELINQUENT TAX LIST IS CREATING EITHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR LAND USE OPTIONS ESTABLISHING DIFFERENT GULLAH LAND EXCEPTIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY ORDINANCES OR CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL AS PROVIDING FINANCIAL LITERACY SO

THAT ULTIMATELY WE CAN CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH. >> WHEN IT COMES TO RESOLVING HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUES, THE PROBLEMS ARE THAT MANY OF THE FAMILIES THAT ARE LIVING ON HEIRS PROPERTY MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM UNTIL THERE IS A POTENTIAL SALE THAT EXISTS. THE LIMITED INFORMATION AND GUIDANCE THAT'S AVAILABLE ON HOW TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS IS IS NOT CLEAR. AS WELL AS THERE ARE LAND USE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR UNDEVELOPED LAND AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE TAX SALE REGULARS THAT ARE IN A CONSTANT CYCLE OF FINANCIAL INSECURITY.

AND SO THE SOLUTIONS TO THOSE PROBLEMS WOULD BE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMING PROVIDING SPECIFIC GUIDANCE. FAMILY BY FAMILY CASE BY CASE WITH RESOURCES TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES AS WELL AS HAVING INFORMATIONAL INFAMY MATERIALS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THEM AND BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT THEY MIGHT BE IN. SO LET ME STATE TAKE A STEP BACK AND A LOT OF YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT HEIRS PROPERTY IS. SO HEIRS PROPERTY IS LAND THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THROUGH GENERATIONS FROM FAMILY MEMBER TO FAMILY MEMBER OFTEN WITHOUT THE PROPERTY HAVING A DEED THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN FORMERLY ENSLAVED PERSON THAT DID NOT HAVE A WILL OR WAS UNABLE TO TRY TO TRANSFER THEIR DEED TO THE DESCENDANTS. THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER MIGHT HAVE TODAY HAVE HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HEIRS WHO HAVE OWNERSHIP RIGHTS TO THE PROPERTY BUT WITHOUT THERE BEING A CLEAR TITLE EVEN IF THEY'RE LIVING ON THE PROPERTY THE LAND THAT THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE PROPER LEGALITY OF OWNERSHIP FOR THE PROPERTY. SO LET ME KIND OF BREAK THAT DOWN FOR YOU. SO WITH HEIRS PROPERTY BEING LEFT WITHOUT LEGAL DOCUMENTATION, THE RECORDED TITLE IS USUALLY IN THE NAME OF A DECEASED RELATIVE WHICH MEANS THAT THE TITLE IS A FRACTURED TITLE BECAUSE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SHARED BY MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE WILL IF ONE DOES EXIST MIGHT INCLUDE MULTIPLE HEIRS OR IF THE OWNER DIES WITHOUT WILL. THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST PASSING THE PROPERTY ALONG TO HEIRS AT WILL. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE IMAGE AT THE SIDE, IF THE ORIGINAL POP PURCHASER IS THE THE ELDERLY COUPLE AT THE TOP AFTER 50 OR 100 YEARS THAT GENERATIONAL TRAIN JUST CAN CAN BLOSSOM SO SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO HERE'S ANOTHER ILLUSTRATION TO KIND OF DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO LET'S SAY THE PERSON IN THE CENTER IS THE GRANDFATHER AND THE TITLE IS IN THE GRANDFATHER'S NAME BUT THE GRANDFATHER HAPPENED TO HAVE PASSED AWAY THE HEIRS BECAUSE IT IS NOT A CLEAR TITLE IT'S CONSIDERED A CLOUDY TITLE. AND SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT THE GRANDFATHER MAY HAVE OFFERED THE LAND TO HIS HEIRS THAT FOLLOW AND THOSE HEIRS MIGHT HAVE CONTINUED TO PASS

THE PROPERTY ON TO SEVERAL OTHER HEIRS. >> AND SO ALL OF THE HEIRS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THIS LAND, WHETHER THEY'RE LIVING ON IT OR NOT, THEY NOW BECOME TENANTS IN

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COURT MIGHT HAVE TO IRON OUT. >> SO IF THAT ONE SINGLE HEIR DECIDES TO SELL IT CAN TRIGGER WHAT IS CALLED A PARTITION BY SALE AND THAT CAN RESULT IN THE IN THE EASIEST SENSE FOR IN THE EASIEST SCENARIO FOR THE COURT IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS SOLD AT AUCTION OR JUST TO THE HIGHEST

BIDDER. >> SO WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATE TO THE TWO BEAUFORT COUNTY IF HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUES CONTINUE SO OFTEN BLIGHTED OR ABANDONED PROPERTIES CAN BE HEIRS PROPERTY MUNICIPALITIES MIGHT STRUGGLE TO IDENTIFY WHO THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IS IF IN CASE THEY NEED TO EITHER COLLECT TAXES OR EVEN ENFORCE LOCAL ORDINANCES.

>> AND WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, FUNDING FOR THE COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION THEN COULD BE IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE OF THE CLOUDINESS THAT HEIRS PROPERTY HAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS FOR HEIRS PROPERTY OWNERS? BECAUSE THERE IS NO CLEAR OWNER OF THE PROPERTY EVEN IN THE CASE OF SOMEONE WHO IS PAYING THE TAXES YEAR AFTER YEAR OR MAYBE FOR GENERATIONS THE PROPERTY IS STILL AT RISK FOR LOS THERE'S AN INABILITY TO SELL OR GET A MORTGAGE ON THE PROPERTY OR EVEN OBTAIN FINANCING WITHOUT HAVING A CLEAR AND CONSISTENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HEIRS. THIS ALSO LEADS TO THE DESTRUCTION OF FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS AS WELL AS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS ESSENTIALLY IN FLUX. THERE'S A LACK OF SECURITY AND FREEDOM THAT COMES WITH LAND OWNERSHIP OR HOME OWNERSHIP THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN ENJOY. SO WHAT IS THE CRITICAL PATH TO UNTANGLING HEIRS PROPERTY AND CLEARING TITLES? AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SOME OF OUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES. THEY HAVE STRINGENT DEVELOPMENT RULES THAT MOST GULLAH ARE NOT FINANCIAL ABLE TO TO EITHER MEET THE ORDINANCES OR FINANCIALLY BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE THE ABILITY TO TO FOLLOW THOSE RULES.

A LOT OF LAND OWNERS, THEY'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE STATUS OF THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED HEIRS PROPERTY HEIRS, PROPERTY IS TAXED AT A HIGHER TAX RATE BECAUSE WITHOUT A CLEAR TYPE TITLE OR THE PROPERTY BEING HOMESTEAD, IT IS TAXED AT A 6 PERCENT RATE VERSUS THE 4 PERCENT RATE. THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHOSE NAME IS EVEN ON THE TITLE? IS THERE A WILL OR IS THE TITLE CLEAR? HOW MANY ERRORS ARE EVEN WITHIN OWNERSHIP OR HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF OWNERSHIP FOR THE PROPERTY AND IF THEY'RE SAY A THOUSAND HEIRS? HOW DO YOU EVEN CONTACT ALL OF THOSE HEIRS SO THAT YOU CAN

CREATE A CLEAR TITLE? >> SO WHY FUND GULLAH LAND? SO LOOKING AT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 2040 IS SECTION C SECTION 6 IS IT IS TITLED SUPPORT THE PRESERVATION OF THE COUNTY'S RURAL LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPE AND THE WAY OF LIFE AND THESE TWO ARE SECTIONS WITHIN THAT SECTION WHERE IT SAYS THAT GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURE IS UNDER EXTREME STRESS FROM RAPID COASTAL DEVELOPMENT, POPULATION GROWTH, LACK OF RECOGNITION AND FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. AND BECAUSE BEAUFORT COUNTY'S GULLAH GEECHEE COMMUNITIES FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGE IS BROUGHT ON THOSE PRESSURES FROM INCREASED DEVELOPMENT.

WHY SHOULD THIS BE FUNDED? >> GENERATIONAL LAND OWNERS ARE OFTEN PRICED OUT OF BEING ABLE TO PAY THEIR TAXES WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

LAND VALUATIONS MIGHT BE HIGH BUT WITHOUT ANY INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY OR AN ABILITY

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>> SO LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORIC GULLAH LAND PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

ESSENTIALLY WE PROVIDE RESOURCE AND INFORMATION TAX PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND TARGETED PROGRAMING THE EARTH THE WAY THAT IT MOST EFFECTIVELY WORKS IS EARLY INTERVENTION.

>> SO BY DOING THAT WE'RE PREVENTING GULLAH LAND LOSSES. WE PROVIDE TAX PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WHEN A FAMILY IS STRUGGLING AND IS ON THE TAX LIST, THE DELINQUENT TAX LIST.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE THE THE THE TAX LISTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS STARTING IN APRIL SO THAT WE CAN MONITOR WHO IS THERE. AND AS WE GET CLOSER BASED ON WHATEVER FUNDING WE HAVE, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE PAYMENT FOR THOSE TAXES.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE OFFER A PROPERTY RESOLUTION ASSISTANCE.

SO CASE BY CASE EVERY FAMILY SITUATION OF COURSE WILL BE DIFFERENT.

SO WE PROVIDE A CUSTOMIZED SOLUTION TO WHATEVER THOSE ISSUES MIGHT BE IF THEY'RE A LAND USES UP OPTIONS SOMETIMES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF THE LAND IS VACANT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP BREAK THAT FINANCIAL CIRCLE OF INSECURITY OR JUST PRIDING PROVIDING RESOURCES AND INFORMATION. RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO CLEARINGHOUSE FOR INFORMATION WITHIN THE COUNTY TO SPECIFICALLY GUIDE PEOPLE THROUGH THE STEPS THAT ARE NECESSARY. WE ALSO PROVIDE FINANCIAL LITERACY. SO IF THERE IS A QUESTION OF FINANCIAL INSECURITY AND MAYBE JUST FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OR WITHIN THE FAMILY IS WHAT IS NECESSARY.

WE PROVIDE THOSE THOSE THAT GUIDANCE AND THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.

IN ADDITION TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WE WE ALSO PROVIDE SUCCESSION PLANNING BECAUSE IF FAMILIES DO NOT HAVE A WILL AND THEY NEED TO HAVE A WILL OR AS WELL AS A PLAN FOR WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE LAND DOWN THE LINE INTO THE FUTURE, THAT'S A IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY STEP IN THE PROCESS. SO WHAT ARE THE KIND OF RESOURCES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT SO LOW COUNTRY GULLAH PROVIDES TARGETED PROGRAMS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WE PROVIDE TAX PAYMENT AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

WHAT WE NEED IS A DEDICATED LOCATION. WE HAVE BEEN SURVIVING ON GRANTS AND DONATIONS FROM PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. BUT ONE OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A A TARGETED MARKETING CAMPAIGN SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE BECAUSE AGAIN THE A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE IN AS WELL AS WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING COLLATERAL MATERIALS AND WHAT BROUGHT SOME SAMPLES OF THAT COLLATERAL MATERIAL WHICH I WILL PASS OUT TO TO EVERYONE.

BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA IS JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL AS THIS IS A A A FLYER THAT WAS MAILED OUT TO FAMILIES . WE WE CONTACTED OVER A THOUSAND FAMILIES WITHIN THE PAST YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE EVEN AWARE OF THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE HERE BUT WE'RE ALSO HERE TO HELP AND PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THAT IS NECESSARY. AND SO WHAT IS THE PATH TOWARDS RESOLUTION? THIS IS A COMMUNITY WIDE ISSUE AND IT NEEDS A COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT THAT STARTS WITH COORDINATION TRUST WITHIN THE COMMUNICATE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS EDUCATION AND SO BUILDING A GREATER LEVEL OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITIES. AGAIN, I MENTIONED WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THE TAX OFFICE IS CONCERNED AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES SO THAT WE HAVE A COORDINATED EFFORT. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT

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OF THAT. >> SCENARIO. AND SO CREATING AN ORGANIZATIONAL ORGANIZATIONAL COORDINATION THAT ALREADY EXISTS IS BETWEEN LOW COUNTRY GULLAH AS I MENTIONED THE TAX OFFICE, THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY AND THE HERITAGE LIBRARY. AND THE REASON WHY THOSE ARE IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT ENTITIES PROVIDE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND SOLUTIONS INTO RESOLVING THE PROBLEM. THIS NEEDS TO BE A GRASSROOT DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION.

WHAT LOW COUNTRY GULLAH FOUNDATION HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS GOING OUT TO EVENTS TO PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE FLYERS TO WHEREVER WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE. BUT THIS ALSO WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO LOCAL CHURCHES AND DISSEMINATED SOME OF THE FLIERS AS WELL. BUT LOCAL CHARITIES, THESE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, ALL OF THOSE NEED TO TO BE CONTACTED AND EXPANDED UPON SO THAT THE INFORMATION CAN ESSENTIALLY BLANKET THE COUNTY AND PART OF THAT WOULD INCLUDE DOING A MARKETING CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN. SO THAT THE INFORMATION CAN REACH PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY WHERE THEY ARE THROUGH A VARIETY OF VEHICLES AND THROUGH EITHER PRINT, RADIO, TV OR SOCIAL MEDIA. LOW COUNTRY GULLAH HAS BEEN DOING THAT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE HAVE ALSO BEEN WE HAVE ALSO BEEN PROVIDING OPERATE OR TAKING WHATEVER OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN TO NOT ONLY DO PRINT WHERE WHERE A OPPORTUNITY FOR AND I'LL BRING THIS TO YOU YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE CLOSER BUT IT'S OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THIS WAS HILTON HEAD MONTHLY IN JANUARY .

IT WAS JUST A STORY ON WHAT THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF FOUNDATION IS DOING AS WELL AS WHEREVER WE CAN GET INTERVIEWS WITHIN THE NEWSPAPER TO TO NOT ONLY HIGHLIGHT THE STORY BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT THE SUCCESSES THAT WE HAVE SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE DO AND BE ABLE TO CONTACT US AND RESOLVE WHATEVER SITUATION THEY ARE EXPERIENCING.

>> SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING SERVICES CURRENTLY HAS BEEN PRIMARILY THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH. AGAIN I MENTIONED WE ARE WORKING ONLINE BUT THROUGH THE COUNTY OFFICE WE ARE GETTING REFERRALS FROM THE MUNICIPALITY AS WELL AS THE THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF FOUNDATION AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS. WE'VE BEEN LITERALLY GOING DOOR TO DOOR TO REACH OUT TO FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IS THROUGH THE TAX LIST WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND BECAUSE IT'S A PERSONAL ISSUE AND BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT BE EMBARRASSED BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE IN BECAUSE THIS IS A GULLAH ORGANIZATION WITH GULLAH MEMBERS WHO CAN FIND SOMEONE YOU KNOW, TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SO WE CAN HAVE THAT PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE VS. AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION JUST COMING IN AND KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AND YOU'RE JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. SO THAT HAS BEEN THE METHOD OF HOW WE ARE REACHING OUT.

AND AGAIN I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT PRIMARILY OUR FUNDING HAS COME FROM PRIVATE DONATIONS AND GRANTS. SO FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE BEEN

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ARE NEEDING. >> SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST OR WHAT HAS BEEN NECESSARY IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, THESE ARE SPECIFIC NUMBERS FROM THE DELINQUENT TAX LIST FOR HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS YOU CAN SEE THAT IN HILTON HEAD IN 2021 WE HAD 21 PROPERTIES THAT ACTUALLY WENT UP FOR THE TAX SALE SO FAR YEAR TO DATE. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST AND FUND BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT THAT HAVE HAVE COME UP WITH DIFFERENT FAMILIES. BUT OF COURSE AS WE GET CLOSER TO OCTOBER I'M SURE THE NUMBER WILL GO FROM THREE TO A LARGER NUMBER BECAUSE THE TAX LIST IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT THIS YEAR.

AND THEN AGAIN WITH BLUFFTON YOU CAN SEE IT. LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST TWO FAMILIES AND SPENT ABOUT SIXTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS. SO THE TYPE OF PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NECESSARY IS IN ADDITION TO THE FLYERS THAT I WILL DISTRIBUTE LATER.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING OUR PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT AND CREATING ADDITIONAL CONTENT AS WELL AS AN ENTIRE CURRICULUM OF PROGRAMING SO THAT WE HAVE AN ONGOING FLOW OF INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, CREATING A COLLATERAL MATERIALS LIKE A BROCHURE THAT LITERALLY SAYS WHAT IS HEIRS PROPERTY? WHAT DO YOU DO? WHERE DO YOU GO? IF YOU HAVE THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE THEN YOU NEED TO GO TO THE HERITAGE LIBRARY TO HAVE YOUR IDENTIFY YOUR HEIRS IF YOU NEED LEGAL ASSISTANCE THEN THERE'S THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO CREATE AS WELL AS THE PROGRAM OPERATION AND IMPLEMENTATION.

AND THAT MARKET MARKETING PLAN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THESE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE THE HERITAGE LIBRARY LOW COUNTRY GALA IS NOT TRYING TO TAKEOVER ANYBODY'S SITUATION

BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE. >> WE ARE TRYING TO COMPLEMENT BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS A CLEARINGHOUSE FOR REFERRALS TO THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEONE IDENTIFIES THAT THEY HAVE HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUES BUT THEY HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED WHO THOSE HEIRS ARE. THE HERITAGE LIBRARY IS ALREADY A ESTABLISHED A PROGRAM. THEY HAVE EXPERTS WHO ARE DISSEMINATING WHO ALL OF THE HEIRS ARE AND IDENTIFY THEM BECAUSE IF SOMEONE WHO HAS IS PROPERTY JUST GO STRAIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY OR THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY, THEY ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE KICKED BACK TO THE HERITAGE LIBRARY OR SOME WAY OF DECIPHERING WHO AND HOW THEY CAN IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE HEIRS. SO FROM THE HERITAGE LIBRARY, ONCE YOU HAVE ALL HEIRS IF IT'S THAT THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE ENTITLED TO THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHEN THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY COULD STEP INTO OR SPECIFIC AND ATTORNEY WHERE THEY CAN PROVIDE NOT ONLY LEGAL SERVICES BUT GUIDANCE ALONG THE WAY. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIAL LITERACY WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH STATE BANK WHERE THEY CAN PROVIDE NOT ONLY FINANCIAL INFORMATION BUT TARGETED AND INDIVIDUALIZED BUDGET WORKSHOPS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KIND OF BREAK THAT CYCLE OF FINANCIAL INSECURITY AS WELL AS IF OUTSIDE ATTORNEY THAT HAS SPECIFIC HEIRS PROPERTY EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE A LIST OF ETERNITY ATTORNEYS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO REFER PEOPLE OVER TO SO THAT THEY CAN IRON OUT WHATEVER THE

SITUATION MIGHT BE. >> SO SOME OF THIS IS JUST A LIST OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO PUT TOGETHER AGAIN STARTING WITH WHAT IS HEIRS PROPERTY.

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>> HOW DO YOU TRACE YOUR LAND OWNERSHIP TO THE BEGINNING? HOW DO YOU GET A CLEAR TITLE? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE LEGAL COMPLICATIONS THAT COME ALONG WITH HEIRS PROPERTY? HOW DO YOU STAY OFF THE ANNUAL TAX LIST? WHAT IS FINANCIAL LITERACY? HOW DO YOU OBTAIN FINANCIAL LITERACY? HOW CAN YOU MAKE YOUR LAND PAY FOR ITSELF? WHY ARE MY PROPERTY TAXES SUDDENLY INCREASING? WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH HEIRS PROPERTY? WHAT KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR LAND USE OPTIONS EXIST FOR YOU? HOW DO YOU SUBDIVIDE A PROPERTY AS WELL AS ADDING INFRASTRUCTURE TO YOUR PROPERTY WHICH TENDS TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST ISSUES BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT AND PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. SO WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS WE ARE CREATING WORKSHOPS AND COLLATERAL TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE KEY TO RESOLVING THE SITUATION. SO WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

CURRENTLY WE ARE FOCUSING ON HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON AS WELL AS THE FUNKY.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO EVENTUALLY EXPAND TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY. RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A PHYSICAL LOCATION AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIRE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT GROUND ROUTES THAT THAT GRASS ROOTS OPPORTUNITY TO BLANKET THE COUNTY AS WELL AS MAKE A SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE WITHIN NOT ONLY ORGANIZATIONS BUT ALSO WITHIN SOME OF THE THE GULLAH CHURCHES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE'D LIKE TO DEVELOP AN ONGOING PROGRAM SCHEDULE. WE'D ALSO IN ADDITION TO THE COLLATERAL THAT WE HAVE WE'D LIKE TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL COLLATERAL MATERIALS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SIMILAR TO A A BROCHURE THAT CAN BE HANDED OUT AT CHURCHES AT THE TAX OFFICE HERE OR WHEREVER THE TAXES TAX OFFICE IS FOR AT CHURCHES AND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS LIKE THAT AS WELL AS CREATE A MARKETING PLAN BECAUSE PEOPLE AGAIN ARE NOT AWARE IF THEY ARE LIVING ON HEIRS PROPERTY UNTIL POSSIBLY AT A FUNERAL OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT WHERE THE HEIRS ARE JUST COMING TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO WILL FOR THE DECEASED

PERSON. >> SO BASED ON THOSE STEPS I PROVIDED A BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. AND SO AS FAR AS THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS THAT WE PROVIDE THE OPERATIONAL THE PROGRAMING AND THE TAX PAYMENT WE ARE LOOKING TO RAISE THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY EXECUTE THE PLAN THAT THAT I HAVE LAID OUT TO YOU BEFORE BEFOREHAND. AND SO AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE LOW COUNTRY GALA AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE FOR YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REMIND ANYBODY ONLINE OR IN CHAMBERS

ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR OF THE QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN ELLIS. >> AND AS YOU SAID, YOU MAILED

OUT THOUSAND MAILINGS TO DIFFERENT OWNERS. >> WAS THAT LIST BASED ON THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX ROLLS OR ARE YOU ARE YOU PLANNING ON COVERING OTHER COUNTIES BESIDES

YOUR COUNTY IN THE FUTURE? >> WELL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS I HAVE BEEN ASKED IF I COULD EXPAND THIS PROGRAM INTO OTHER COUNTIES THAT JASPER COUNTY WAS

THE THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP AT THIS POINT. >> WE STARTED WITH HILTON HEAD AND WE MOVED INTO BLUFFTON. WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND TO TO THE ENTIRE BEAUFORT COUNTY.

BUT MY FEELING IS IS THAT ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT OTHER COUNTIES WILL WILL WANT TO OR NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT

THE THOUSAND MAILINGS WERE THAT WAS COME FROM. >> OH, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT. BECAUSE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE COUNTY LIST THE THE THE COUNTY LIST HAS BEEN DIVIDED INTO POTENTIAL EITHER GULLAH FAMILIES AND OR HEIRS PROPERTY

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GULLAH LAND PROPERTIES. >> THANK YOU. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

LOGAN THANK YOU. I WAS LOOKING OVER THE BUDGET. YOU SAID YOU NEEDED A 40000 OR SALARY IN ONE HUNDRED OF THAT WAS FOR ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE FOR THE OTHER I WAS TRYING TO READ ABOUT IT WENT AWAY TO PASSAGE TO MAKE SURE I GOT THOSE NUMBERS.

>> YES, I'LL GO BACK. THERE IT IS. YES.

BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OR THE COMPREHENSIVENESS OF NOT ONLY DEVELOPING THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE COLLATERAL MATERIAL AND MAINTAINING THAT GRASS ROOTS CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY THERE. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE SALARIES NEED TO BE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE FULL TIME. RIGHT NOW I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS PART TIME THE THE FOUNDATION HAS DOES HAVE A BOARD BUT OF FOR THE MOST PART IT IS ME, MYSELF AND I WHO IS GOING OUT AND DOING EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE WORK THAT THAT IS REQUIRED IS

DONE. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT OVER THE YEARS THE CLOUDY TITLE EACH HAVE A REAL PROBLEM ESTABLISHING CLEAR OWNERSHIP BUT I THINK THAT THE WORKSHOPS THAT YOU HAD PLANNED ASK ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE NASA'S VERY FOR PEOPLE TO GAIN A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES FACE THE .

>> AS YOU SAY COULD BE IN THE HUNDREDS OR EVEN SOMETIMES THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

SO I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE WORKSHOPS. I'D LIKE TO TRY AND GET SOME WORD OUT FOR YOU HERE. WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.

AND IF YOU COULD SEND TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S ATTENTION A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE

WOULD LIKE TO DO. >> PERHAPS YOU APPEAR IN NEWSPAPERS OF COURSE MEDIA SUPPORT PERHAPS FOR OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER COULD ENSURE THAT GETS TO HIS SOURCES SO THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION RECEIVES SOME EXPOSURE WITH REGARD TO THE GOALS THAT YOU

HAVE AND HOW YOU INTEND TO ACHIEVE THEM. >> AND ONE FINAL QUESTION.

ARE YOU A FIVE ALESSI THREE IRS AGENT NATION? >> YES.

OK. RIGHT. OK.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO TRY AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT WITH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE MY DELIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMING OVER YOU TAKING TIME TO ME VERY MUCH. YES.

I HEREBY MAKE GUS LARRY I HAD A QUESTION IN EVERY PLANTS YOU THINK OF A PILOT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE OF THE HIGH POINTS IN THIS FAIRLY WIDESPREAD PROBLEM KIND OF BEGS THE QUESTION IN MY MIND IS WHETHER THERE'S ANY KIND OF ORDINANCE CHAINS THAT WE COULD MAKE TO HELP THESE THE LONG TERM OR THE FUNDS PROVIDED BY THIS IS SIZABLE PORTION OF OUR POPULATION IS DOES THIS LEND ITSELF TO SOME KIND OF A COUNTY OFFICE AT SOME POINT? SO AS I SAID, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TODAY ON THOSE BUT THOSE TWO THINGS CROSSED MY MIND AS I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ONLINE OR IN CHAMBERS. IT'S NOT JIM BEFORE YOU.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, I APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MRS. SELLERS FOR YOU. WHAT I CAN SAY AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION DEALING WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT EXIST IN THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY WITH PEERS, PROPERTY AND A LOT OF LAND HAS BEEN LOST BECAUSE OF HIS PROPERTY IN THAT THIRD,

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SO THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT IS CRUCIAL AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE IMPRESSED ME WITH THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN ACTUALLY WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AND YOU DID NOT TALK ABOUT THAT BUT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT ON HILTON HEAD AND YOU BRANCHED OFF INTO BLUFFTON AND TO A POINT THAT YOU HAVE FAMILIES THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AND HAVE WORKED WITH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO SAVE THEIR LAND AND THINK IS IS COMMENDABLE ON YOUR PART, YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL PART AND BECAUSE YOU ARE ONE PERSON. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT EXPANDING TO A JASPER COUNTY JUST JUST ENOUGH FOR JUST ONE PERSON VOLUNTEERING HER TIME TO JUST HANDLE HILTON HAND AND LIVE LET ALONE BLUFFTON.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. BUT THE PROBLEM EXISTS ALL OVER BEAUFORT AND YOU YOU WHAT I SEE A ESTABLISH A GRASS ROOT INITIATIVE WHERE YOU ARE WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES YOU INVOLVING YOURSELF WITH THAT TRUST AND AN UNDERLYING THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION TRUST BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE PEOPLE EVEN LET YOU INTO THE DOOR. THEY GOT TO TRUST YOU AND THEY'VE GOT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU ARE NOT THERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM AND YOU ARE ESTABLISHING THAT I.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO CONTINUE THIS DIALOG AND SEEING HOW WE COULD ACTUALLY EXPAND THIS SERVICE TO AREAS THAT I THINK IS NEEDED IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THIS COUNTY IS PARTICULARLY MAKE COMMUNITY. NORTHRUP BROAD WE HAVE WORK AND WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH THE CENTERS AS PROPERTY. BUT THERE'S REALLY I MUST SAY THIS PUBLICLY THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SOME CONCERNS WITH THESE CENTERS FOR HEIRS PROPERTY GOOD ORGANIZATION BUT IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE LAWYERS BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO WORK WITH LAWYERS SOMETIMES AND HAVING SOMEBODY LIKE USE OF YOUR ORGANIZATION TO KIND OF WORK WITH COMMUNITY PEOPLE TO GET THEM EDUCATED, TO COMPARE THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN GO TALK TO A LAWYER.

I THINK MR. CHAIRMAN IS VERY CRUCIAL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TALK SOME MORE ABOUT THIS AND HOW WE CAN EXPAND THAT TO AREAS OF CONCERNS AND BEFORE COUNTY THAT HILTON HEAD AND YOU MOVING INTO BLUFFTON SO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

WELL, THANK YOU. >> AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR KIND WORDS.

WHAT WHAT I WILL ADD TO THAT IS IS THAT THE ESTABLISHING THE TRUST AND BEING ABLE TO HOLD THE HAND OF THE INDIVIDUAL IS WHAT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR SUCCESS BECAUSE OF FRUSTRATION IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT COMES UP WITH FAMILIES BECAUSE SAY THEY GO SIT FIRST STRAIGHT TO THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY BUT VACANT HELP THEM THEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. SO BEING THAT KIND OF CLEARING HOUSE HAS BEEN OUR SECRET SAUCE YOU KNOW, SO TO SPEAK THAT WE CAN TAKE THEM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

IDENTIFY WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE BUT MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO RESOLUTION VS. JUST YOU KNOW, HEAR SOME INFORMATION AND YOU KNOW, GOOD.

GOOD LUCK BECAUSE THAT'S THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON WHY A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES EVENTUALLY JUST GO UP FOR SALE BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND AND THERE ISN'T THAT KIND OF COLLATERAL EVEN IF IT'S JUST A CHECK LIST WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND SAY OK, WELL I KNOW I NEED TO GET THE HEIRS I KNOW NEED TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW. SO THAT THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND WE CAN FIND SOME RESOLUTION .

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> SO IS IT ONCE AGAIN APPRECIATE YOU'RE MAKING APPEARANCES TODAY ON SELECTION AND PRESENTATION AND FOREMOST AND EVERYBODY WHO'S WATCHING BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR SITUATION IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED TO

SOLVE THE PROBLEM. NO ERRORS AFTER. >> INHERITANCE REALLY IS WHAT

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

AND AS I MENTIONED, I WILL LEAVE THE SUM OF THE COLLATERAL MATERIALS THAT I HAVE SO THAT

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YOU CAN THANK YOU, RON. THANK YOU. HERE WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH

[8. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF WENDY BUKOWSKI TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS BOARD FOR A SECOND TERM WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF 2026]

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. >> WE'RE GOING ASK THIS BODY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> REAPPOINT WENDY BECAUSE THE BOARD OF DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS A FOUR YEAR TERM WITH AN EXPIRATION GREATER 2026 ON THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR

CONSIDERATION. >> ALL RIGHT. MOVED SECOND DISCUSSION ON THIS

APPOINTMENT HEARING NO DISCUSSION. >> I'LL SEEK APPROVAL WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS DURING THOSE QUESTIONS?

>> MATTER WHICH COUNCIL WHICH THE IS THE FULL COUNCIL HAVE TO GIVE IT CONSIDERATION IS IS

ALREADY HARD? >> NO SIR. IT HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEING FURTHER FROM ANYONE ONLINE OR IN CHAMBERS HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.