[IX. 1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by BFL Builders for approval of Certificate of Appropriateness to allow the construction of a new 2-story Carriage House structure approximately 704 SF located at 30 Meriwether Court, Lot 4 in the Landen Oak Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-06-22-016828) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

EVERYONE TO SEE THE CIVIC DUTY THAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. THE FIRST APPLICATION THAT YOU HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS AN APPLICATION BY VFL BUILDERS FOR APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION A NEW TWO STOREY CARRIAGE HOUSE STRUCTURE OF APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED FOUR SQUARE FEET. IT IS LOCATED AT 30 MERRYWEATHER WHICH IS LIKE 4 IN THE LAND IN DEVELOPMENT IN THE OLD TOWN BLOCK AND HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL. SO THE LAND AND OAK DEVELOPMENT IS OFF LIMITS.

HAYWARD ANNOUNCED BUT YOU CAN SEE IT HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE THERE.

IF YOU COME OFF OF ME RIVER ROAD YOU TURN LEFT INTO THOMAS HAYWARD RIGHT INTO THE LAND AND OAKS DEVELOPMENT AND IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SO THE BACK RIGHT CORNER.

THIS CARRIAGE HOUSE IS MOSTLY COMPLETE AT THIS TIME. THEY HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR A CARRIAGE HOUSE AT THIS SITE. THE REQUEST TONIGHT COMES BEFORE YOU BECAUSE IF ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ADDED IT ACTUALLY HAS TO COME BACK AS A NEW CERTIFICATE REPUBLICANS IT CANNOT BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. SO THE APPLICATION THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TONIGHT IS TO

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CLOSE THE CARPORT PORTION OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WHICH I HAVE SHOWN HERE.

THE LITTLE HALF PORTION OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THE APPROVED SET OF PLANS IS IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRCASE THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACK PROPERTY LINE THERE COME

STRAIGHT DOWN TOWARDS THE HOUSE. >> THAT SET OF FRENCH DOORS WAS THE ONLY PORTION OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THE APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT WAS ENCLOSED. THEY HAVE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE YOU IN ORDER TO ENCLOSE THE SECOND PART OF THIS. IT PUTS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE ENCLOSED SPACE AT SEVEN HUNDRED FOUR SQUARE FEET WHICH IS WELL UNDER THE PERMITTED TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET THAT IS PERMITTED AS A CARRIAGE BUILDING TYPE. SO THE FLOOR PLANS AND YOU CAN FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER HERE INSTEAD OF BEING A CAR, A GOLF CART, CARPORT TYPE OPEN SPACE, THE GOLF CART GARAGE IS GOING TO BEING CLOSE SIMILAR TO THE GARAGE PORTION OF IT NEXT TO IT. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

I THINK IT IS TWO MONTHS GO AND ONE PRIOR TO THAT AS WELL BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE CHANGES

IN DESIGN I BELIEVE. CORRECT. >> AND YOU'VE GOT TWO OF THEM BEFORE TONIGHT FOR THAT AS WELL. SO THIS IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AGAIN. IT LOOKED VERY SIMILAR WHEN IT CAME BEFORE YOU AND WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY EXCEPT THAT THE GARAGE DOOR. THAT IS THE SMALLER OF THE TWO SLIDING GARAGE DOORS. WHAT LOOKS LIKE A SET OF FRENCH DOORS FROM THIS ELEVATION BECAUSE IT WAS A PARTIAL ENCLOSURE RATHER THAN THE FULL SPACE BEING ENCLOSED.

SO THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS. THIS ONE HAS THE HORIZONTAL SIDING WITH THE VERTICAL SIDING IN THE GABLE END TO MATCH THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. AND HAS THE SAME GENERAL CHARACTER THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. OTHERWISE THE SECTION IN DETAILS ARE HERE. THE ONE THAT I DO WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS JUST THIS VALLEY SLASH WHILE DETAIL BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY CONDITION THAT STAFF FOUND NEEDS TO BE MET. BUT I WILL COME BACK TO THAT WHEN WE GET THERE.

HERE ARE THE OTHER SECTIONS AND DETAILS FOR THAT STRUCTURE. AND THE APPROVED PRIMARY STRUCTURE JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE SO THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT STRUCTURE WILL LOOK WITH THIS STRUCTURE. SO AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE HORIZONTAL SIDING ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THE GABLE ENDS THAT HAVE THE GABLES L THERE AND THEN THE VERDICT. I'M SORRY THE VERTICAL SIDING IN THE GABLES ENDS SO THE HPC HAS EIGHT REVIEW CRITERIA. THEY ARE FOUND IN SECTION 318 THREE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. WHEN THEY ASSESS THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND THE ABC HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. TELSTAR FOUND THAT IF THE BELLY BAND SLASH WHILE DETAIL ON PAGE A FIVE POINT ZERO IS REVISED TO BE A MINIMUM OF FIVE QUARTER STOCK IT IS CURRENTLY LISTED AS A ONE BY STOCK SO IT'S JUST A MINOR DETAIL TO THE DRAWINGS FOR YES IT IS SHOWING UP ON THE TOP LEFT DRAWING THAT'S IN THE CLOUDED AREA AND IT IS THE SKIRT BOARD OF THAT WATER TABLE DETAIL THERE THERE'S A ONE BY TEN.

>> YEAH AND MR BRYANT IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER OR YOU WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT BEFORE TOO. SO YOU'RE HAVING A PROBLEM

JELLY BEANS VERY LURKS RIGHT HERE. >> WE DO WANT TO TALK BUT THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BILL WITH OKATIE JUST CURIOUS THIS IS IT'S A CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BUT IT'S BEING SUBMITTED AS IF IT IS A NEW MIDDLE GUESS.

>> SO SHOULD THIS APPLICATION FAIL BEFORE TONIGHT THEY DO STILL HAVE APPROVAL FOR A DIFFERENT CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT DIFFERENT CARRIAGE HOUSE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE DESIGN OF THAT STRUCTURE IS THAT THE CAR THE GOLF CART PORTION OF THAT WOULD REMAIN

OPEN RATHER THAN BEING CLOSED SPACE. >> I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH IT WHATSOEVER. I JUST THINK IT'S FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROCESS.

IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN VERSUS THE THE MODIFICATION AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT A WHOLE ORIGINAL NEW SET OF PLANS WHICH IS EASY. THIS IS EASY. YES.

BUT HE WAS WANTING TO DO A MODIFICATION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MIDDLE.

THERE WAS MORE INVOLVED. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO COMPARE THE TWO.

>> RIGHT. AND SO THE CHALLENGE OR NOT CHALLENGE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT WITH A REVISION THAT INCLUDES AN UPDATED SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO ANYTIME THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CHANGES, ANYTIME YOU ADD OR SUBTRACT ANYTHING UNDER A ROOF,

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IT'S CANNOT BE A AN AMENDMENT TO A CERTIFICATE OF PERMANENCE .

IT HAS TO BE A NEW CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. SO REGARDLESS OF WHO DID IT OR

NOT CORRECT IN CLOSED SPACE. >> SO IF THEY PUT A ROOF OVER A PORCH IT BECOMES A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. IF THEY PUT AN OPEN PORCH BEHIND A HOUSE THERE WOULD NOT BE A NEW CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. IT WOULD LIKELY BE A SITE FEATURE APARTMENT WHICH IS REVIEWED AT A STAFF LEVEL. SO IT'S JUST THE ADDITION OR.

WELL, IT'S JUST THE ADDITION OF ENCLOSED SPACE THAT HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE ABC AS A BRAND NEW APPLICATION IN THE CASE OF A STRUCTURE THAT DOES CHOOSE TO MAKE SOME MORE SEVERE MODIFICATIONS, I DO TYPICALLY INCLUDE A FEW SLIDES THAT JUST KIND OF SHOW HEY THIS IS WHAT YOU APPROVED. HOWEVER THEY DO NOT COME INTO PLAY BECAUSE THE IT IS AN IT IS A STANDALONE APPLICATION. THIS APPLICATION CAN EITHER BE APPROVED APPROVED CONDITIONS OR DENIED AS AS ITS OWN ENTITY. HOWEVER THERE IS ONE APPROVED. SO IF IT'S DENIED TONIGHT FOR ANY REASON THAT BEING SAID STAFF FINDS THAT IT MEETS THE CONDITIONS THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEFAULT ON AND BUILD WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OR NOTHING AT ALL IF THEY SO UNDERSTAND

THAT. >> YES I WOULD JUST MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER ADJUSTING THAT PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO AMEND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SO MIDDLE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT HERE AND A LOT OF TIMES IF IT DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY ALTER THE DESIGN OR ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE THEN IT CAN BE AMENDED INSTEAD OF STARTING FROM ZERO.

>> OKAY. SO LET'S SEE THE COMMENTS ARE JUST THE BELLY BAND AND WHAT I

UNDERSTAND. >> EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS FINE. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION WHICH IT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER WAY BUT ON THE PLAN I SAW THAT THERE WAS A DOOR COMING OUT ON THE SIDE ON THE LEFT ELEVATION I BELIEVE IN FRONT OF WHERE THE CARE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WAS TO

GO BACK. >> I GUESS THE PLANNED VIEW OR THE SITE PLAN AT WELL ON THE SITE PLAN. THERE WAS A DOOR THAT WAS SHOWN .

YEAH. IS THAT GOING AWAY? >> OK, THIS ONE FEELS LIKE I JUST WANT TO TAKE IT AND I HAVE NOTICED SOMETHING. YEAH.

I MEAN EITHER WAY THAT WOULD BE WHAT. >> YEAH IT JUST THERE'S A THAT ANOMALY AROUND THE FLOOR. IT'S NOT ON THE GROUND. YOU'RE CORRECT.

YEAH. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS OTHERWISE. >> YEAH AND ACTUALLY THE ELEVATIONS DO SHOW FIVE QUARTER BY OR HAVE A NOTATION OR FIVE QUARTER BY BAND BOARD.

IT'S JUST THE DETAIL THAT WASN'T UPDATED. SIMPLE PROCESS.

I'VE GOT A MOTION READY FOR THE DISCUSSION I MOVE THAT WE EX WERE APPROVED THE SAME MIDDLE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS I'LL SECOND WE WE HAVE A SECOND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND I THOUGHT

I DID. >> YEAH. >> SO THEREFORE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND IF NOT I'M LOOKING FOR A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR I IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE

[IX. 2. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by BFL Builders for approval of Certificate of Appropriateness to allow the construction of a new 2-story Carriage House structure of approximately 704 SF located at 35 Meriwether Court, Lot 5 in the Landen Oak Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-06-22-016837) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

UNANIMOUS IT'S PASSED. THANK YOU. THANK THE SECOND ONE WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE VERY FAMILIAR. THIS IS A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THESE SAME THE SAME TYPE OF REQUEST. THIS IS THE LOT THAT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. IT IS ALSO CONSTRUCTION. IT ALSO HAS THE SAME REQUEST THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO FILL IN THAT ADDITIONAL SPACE UNDERNEATH THE GOLF CART.

SO ON THE FIRST FLOOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THE SAME. IT IS SEVEN HUNDRED FOUR SQUARE FEET. THE DESIGN OF IT IS VERY SIMILAR EXCEPT TO EXCITING MATERIAL FOR THIS STRUCTURE MATCHES EXCITING MATERIAL FOR THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

SO YOU'VE GOT THE ENCLOSED SPACE THAT IS THE BRAND NEW ENTITY.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS REMAINING THE SAME AND THE DETAIL THAT THEY PROVIDED IS THE SAME ONE THAT HAS THE SAME CHALLENGE. HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THAT PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

SO AGAIN IT HAS THE GABLE FRONT THE ONE WE SAW TWO MONTHS AGO I BELIEVE IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE HIPPED ROOF THAT CHANGED THE MATERIALS ON THAT AND HPC REVIEWS THE SAME EIGHT CRITERIA. THEY CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED THE APPLICANT APPROVED THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR TONIGHT THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. VERY BRYAN IS THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT TO WHICH MAY COME AS A SURPRISE TO ALL. BUT THE ONLY ITEM THAT STAFF HAS FOUND IS THAT THE BELLY BAND WHILE YOU TELL ON PAGE A 5.0 NEEDS BE REVISED IN ORDER TO INCLUDE A FIVE QUARTER STOCK MINIMUM MOTION. PLEASE ALL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE APPLICATION

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WITH AS LONG AS THEY MEET STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON SECOND LOOKING FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, NOT LOOKING FOR A VOTE ON FAVOR I IT LOOKS LIKE IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD SHALL I WILL.

THANK YOU. I ADDED THE DETAIL ON THE GARAGE DOOR.

[IX. 3. Public Project: A request by the Town of Bluffton for approval of a Public Project to allow the renovation of the Contributing Resource, known as the Squire Pope Carriage House, located at 111 Calhoun Street in Wright Family Park, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Riverfront Edge-HD. (COFA-007-22-017002) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

I SAW THE CYPRUS EMBASSY CYPRUS. YOU PUT THAT.

OH THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY. OK.

THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY DISCUSSION ITEM IS NEW BUSINESS BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC PROJECT.

>> LET'S JUST DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT. THAT BEING SAID IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOTE BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE'RE ALLOWED TO SAY PASS THIS ALONG TO THE NEXT.

>> SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE NOT VOTING YES OR NO ON THIS. WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING

TO EVEN TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE. >> YOU VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMEND DENIAL TO THE AUDIO ADMINISTRATOR AS IT'S A PUBLIC PROJECT. SO IT COMES THROUGH AS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE DP NUMBER IN FRONT OF IT. BUT IT IS A PUBLIC PROJECT IN ABOUT 2017. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE DATE BUT IT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT CORRECTLY. THE HPC MADE A RESOLUTION TO REQUEST THE TOWN COUNCIL HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE HPC FOR DISCUSSIONS SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND DETAILS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THIS IS TO ALLOW THE RENOVATION OF THE SQUIRE PUT CARRIAGE HOUSE. IT IS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE LOCATED AT 111 CALHOUN STREET IN THE PARK THAT IS KNOWN AS RITE FAMILY PARK.

IT IS IN THE RIVERFRONT EDGE HD ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I HAVE PUT A BUNCH OF PICTURES UP HERE FROM THE SQUIRE HOPE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER SEPTEMBER OF 2019. SO THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE CAME BEFORE YOU ALL WENT BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL AND WAS ADOPTED SO THAT THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE GO BY. AS WE LOOK AT THIS CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES TO TOWN, THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR DOCUMENT TO THE ONE THAT HAPPENED FOR THE GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE.

SO THE PLANS FOR EACH TONIGHT FOLLOW THIS WHICH IS WONDERFUL. AND OUR ARE GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE. SO WE HAVE STABILIZED THE STRUCTURE.

BRIAN OSBORNE IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT. HE IS SITTING BEHIND ME IN THERE AND IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THE EXISTING CONDITIONS I PUT JUST A FEW OF THE PICTURES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT BUT I PICKED SOME OF MY FAVORITES. THESE ARE THE OUTSIDE ONES MY FAVORITE INTERIOR PICTURES THOUGH ARE THESE HERE? SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS INSIDE WHICH WHILE WE DON'T REVIEW INSIDE THIS PROJECT TO FIND NOT TWO YOU CAN SEE THE ARCH IN THAT CEILING THAT IS NOT BECAUSE IT'S A WIDE ANGLED PHOTO. THAT IS BECAUSE THE SIDES OF THIS ROOM ARE JUST SLOPING THAT MUCH AWAY FROM THE CHIMNEY THAT IS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THAT THAT WALL. SO THERE IS THAT ON THE TOP LEFT THE TOP RIGHT WITH THE TOILET THERE. IF YOU SEE THAT THAT PIPE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE THERE'S ACTUALLY A SHOWERHEAD. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS NOT A BASIN AT THE BASE OF THAT SHOWERHEAD. WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? IT'S A MYSTERY BUT IT MIGHT LEAD TO THE REASON THAT ON THE BOTTOM LEFT YOU SEE THE AND THE CEILING ON THAT ONE AS WELL. THE LAST PICTURE ON THAT BOTTOM RIGHT THERE IS THE THE 50S EDITION THAT ENCLOSED A PORTION OF THE PORCH. THIS WAS REVIEWED IN THAT PRESERVATION PLAN. SO THE BUILDING EVOLUTION IF YOU WERE HERE AT THE PRESERVATION SYMPOSIUM 20 19 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE IN 2020 MATTERS WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT AND DISCUSSED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT EVOLUTION PERIODS OF THIS BUILDING AND COLOR CODED THEM. THIS IS THE COOLEST IMAGE I MAY HAVE SEEN SINCE I STARTED WORKING FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. SO THEY DID PAINT ANALYSIS, NAIL ANALYSIS. THEY LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT MEANS OF CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS BUILDING AND THEY FOUND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PERIODS FROM ANTEBELLUM TO DIFFERENT PHASES OF ANTEBELLUM ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MID 20TH CENTURIES WITH THAT ENCLOSURE OF THE SECOND STORY PORCH HERE YOU CAN SEE AND READ ON THE SECOND STORY DEM OR FLOOR PLAN THAT'S LISTED HERE. I PUT THE IMAGES NEXT TO EACH OTHER ON EACH ONE OF THESE.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN. WHAT CURRENTLY EXIST IS ON THE TOP WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS ON THE BOTTOM SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE KEEPING ALL OF THE EXTERIOR AND ADDING THE EXISTING RAMP IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS SPACE SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC CAN USE AT THIS TIME. TOWN COUNCIL HAS NOT MADE A FINAL DETERMINATION ON THE END USE OF THE STRUCTURE BUT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT WHEN WE DO A REHABILITATION LIKE THIS.

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SO LIKE THE GARVIN HOUSE WE BUILD IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN SUPPORT ASSEMBLY RATED FLOORS, THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT IT COULD BE USED AS ANYTHING FROM LOW IMPACT PASSIVE SPACE TO A LIVE EVENT AREA. THAT'S THE HIGHEST USE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD GO IN HERE. THAT BEING SAID, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE OF IT. IT JUST IS WHAT COULD BE IN THERE BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE STAIRS ARE BEING REBUILT HERE AND THE SUCCESSFUL RAMP. OTHER THAN THAT, THE FLOOR PLAN STAYS FAIRLY SIMILAR ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THIS IS WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE BECAUSE THAT 1950S PORCH IS GOING TO BE OPENED BACK UP AND YOU GET A

MOVIE THAT LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SCREENED. >> NO, BUT IT IS ALSO NOT GOING TO BE CLOSED. SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ACTUALLY SOME HORIZONTAL WINDOWS IN THERE AND SOME CITING THE ENCLOSED PART OF IT. THERE WAS A REALLY COOL OLD PEDAL BICYCLE IN THERE BUT IT IS NOW GOING TO BE PART OF THE PORCH RETURNED BACK TO PRE 1950S. SO THIS IS THE DEMOLITION PLAN. THEY WILL REMOVE THE ENTIRE YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE HYPHEN ON THE TOP IMAGE THERE WHICH IS THE THE FIRST FLOOR.

>> EXCUSE ME BECAUSE THAT HYPHEN IS SIMPLY ROTTED. >> AND WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH IT YOU ARE STEPPING ON DIRT SO THEY WILL BE LIFTING THE STRUCTURE UP, PUTTING PIERS UNDERNEATH IT AND THEN STABLE. THEY'VE ALREADY STABILIZED IT BUT THEY'LL BE PUTTING THE PURE FOUNDATION UNDERNEATH IT, REMOVING THAT HYPHEN AND REBUILDING IT ON ENCLOSING PORCH. REBUILDING THE STAIRS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT THERE AND THEN REPAIRING MOST OF THE REST OF THE WORK. THERE ARE DETAILS IN THE IF YOU HAD THE PLANS PUT UP ON YOUR COMPUTER YOU CAN SEE THESE LITTLE NOTES THAT ARE LIKE ABOVE THE BAY WINDOW ON THE END THERE YOU CAN SEE THAT NOTE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE MEANS FOR THE REPAIRS THAT ARE BEING MADE AND HOW THAT HOW MUCH OF THE SIDING WILL BE RETAINED.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE SIDING ACTUALLY THAT HAS TO BE ENTIRELY REMOVED FROM THE STRUCTURE BUT IT WILL BE REPLACED WITH QUITE SO THESE ARE THE FRONT ELEVATIONS.

THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES MAY RIVER OR THE PARK BECAUSE IT IS SET BACK VERY FAR ON THE PROPERTY COMPARED TO MOST RIVERFRONT EDGE STRUCTURES. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE BAY WINDOW WHICH WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THE TOP ONE HAS THAT ENCLOSED PORCH. THE BOTTOM SHOWS IT IN ITS HOPEFULLY FUTURE GLORY. THERE WITHOUT THE ENCLOSED SPACE THE REST OF IT WILL BE REPAIRED AS NEEDED. THIS IS WHAT DOES THAT RECTANGLE LIKE IN THE BOTTOM SECOND FLOOR? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S JUST A RAILING DETAIL MAYBE LOOKING AT THAT LITTLE THE DOTTED LINE AROUND THE RAILING. YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. I'M SORRY.

THE BOTTOM PICTURE SO FOR SECOND FLOOR SECOND WINDOW FROM THE LEFT YOU SEE HOW TO BLOCK THE OUTLINE I THINK PROBABLY LIKE A CALL OUT CALL OUT PRO I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S A DETAIL CALL OUT FOR US. PORCH SECTION LATER.

SORRY. I JUST WHEN I WHEN I PUT THESE IN A PRESENTATION I USED THE CUT AND PASTE TOOL AGGRESSIVELY . I TAKE OFF CITING THINGS SO THAT I CAN GET IT AS BIG ON YOUR SCREEN AS POSSIBLE. BUT SOMETIMES IT DOES LEAVE WEIRD THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE DETAILING IS ELSEWHERE. YOU KNOW THE REAR ELEVATIONS

THIS IS THE THE SIDE THAT FACES THAT WATER STREET. >> YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS THE CHIMNEY WILL GO AWAY. THAT IS RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

THAT CHIMNEY IS NOT ATTACHED TO THE STRUCTURE IF YOU WALK PAST THERE.

IT IS BALANCING HAPHAZARDLY AND AS A LATER EDITION. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM IT. BUT THE REST OF IT WILL REMAIN FAIRLY AS YOU ARE ARE USED TO SEEING IT WITHOUT THE FENCE AROUND IT. THEY ARE REPLACING THE SHUTTERS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY ON THE STRUCTURE AND HAVE SINCE BEEN PULLED OFF, FALLEN OFF, TAKEN OFF, REMOVED IN SOME VARIOUS WAYS SO YOU CAN SEE THE REBUILT HYPHEN.

THE ROOF WILL BE REDONE. THE MATERIALS ON THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE ARE GOING TO STAY THE SAME. THIS IS THE E ELEVATIONS. THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. NOW SO YOU CAN SEE AGAIN IT IS REMAINING ALMOST ENTIRELY THE SAME. IT WILL BE RAISED UP ON THIS POOR FOUNDATION BECAUSE AT THIS TIME THERE ISN'T REALLY A FOUNDATION THERE. THERE WE FOUND EVIDENCE LITTLE BIT OF A FOUNDATION AND A COUPLE OF CORNERS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU KNOW STORY BEHIND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE OR THOSE CARRIAGE HOUSE. LEGEND IS THAT THE MAIN STRUCTURE WAS BURNED SO THEY TOOK THE TWO OUTBUILDINGS AND MOVED THEM TOGETHER.

WHEN THEY DID THAT THEY LIKELY WEREN'T PLANNING ON LIVING HERE VERY LONG.

SO THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T GO ABOUT THAT MOVE IN A MANNER THAT WAS GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. TURNS IT DID ONE DOES THE ROOFING MATERIAL IS THERE

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GETTING RID OF THE EXISTING MADELEINE JUST GOING TO DO A SHINGLE THAT THE ROOFING

MATERIAL. >> IT IS METAL. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'LL BE PUT BACK AS METAL. THE DETAIL ON IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT IT IS CALLED THE WHOLE ROOF IS GOING TO GO TO METAL. >> YES.

AND THEN THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION. SO THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES CHURCH OF THE CROSS ON THE DRAWINGS. THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THAT FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T SHOW UP WELL. SO I'VE GOT THE PICTURE OF THE WEST ELEVATION AND THEN THE RENDERING THAT IS THE DRAWING OF THE ELEVATION FOR THE WEST SIDE PROPOSED. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT IS THE SPACE WITH THE CHIMNEY IN IT THAT WINDOW THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SIDE THERE THAT WINDOW IS WHERE THAT SHOWER IS.

SO IT'S AN INTERESTING DESIGN THERE BUT IT IS GOING TO REMAIN AND BE OBVIOUSLY NOT PLANTED ANYMORE. BUT THIS IS THE SIDE THAT WILL HAVE THE ACCESSIBLE RAMP THAT GOES TOWARDS THE PARKING. THAT IS THE TOWN OF LONDON'S PUBLIC STREET PARKING.

I'VE INCLUDED THE DOOR SCHEDULE AND THE WINDOW SCHEDULE THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR US.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK DOWN THIS ENTIRE THING, THEY DO PLAN ON RESTORING ALMOST EVERY SINGLE WINDOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONES THAT ARE GOING AWAY ENTIRELY FROM THAT 50S EDITION AND ALL OF THE DOORS AS WELL. SO THEY DO PLAN ON RESTORING THOSE.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND AND ONE OF THE DOORS IS FOUND THAT IT CANNOT BE RESTORED, THEY WILL COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW THAT THERE THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THAT SPECIFIC DOOR. BUT IT DOESN'T IT IS PROJECTED NOT TO BE AN ISSUE.

SO AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS A PUBLIC PROJECT. SO INSTEAD OF 318 3 THIS IS FROM SECTION 324 THREE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND THERE ARE ONLY FIVE CRITERIA RATHER THAN THE EIGHT YOU TYPICALLY SEE BUT THE HPC HAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMEND. NOW THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT TO THE UDA OR ADMINISTERED FOR THIS PUBLIC PROJECT.

BRIAN OSBORNE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT BUT TOWN STAFF HAS FOUND THAT IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA IN SECTION 3 24 3 AND IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED THROUGH YOU ALL AND AT YOUR RECOMMENDATION BY TOWN COUNCIL . AND SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WE RECOMMEND YOU RECOMMEND I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. AND AGAIN I'VE GOT BRIAN HERE TOO.

SO MY FIRST COMMENT IS THERE'S PRETTY MUCH ALL YOU KNOW IS I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT SERVICE YARDS THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THE HPC SERVICE YARDS IS SO CLOSE TO THE STREET.

>> I WALKED THAT AREA QUITE OFTEN AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT HPC AND IF YOU LOOK THERE THE ONE SIDE ELEVATION YOU WITH A FENCE AROUND IT, YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE THIS IS GOING TO BE TO LET'S KEEP GOING BACK TO GO FORWARD PLEASE. KEEP GOING FORWARD.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE PICTORIAL. NO. OH, THE BEST.

THIS ONE. YES. >> THANK YOU.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE AND YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE HBC BOX IS GONNA GO, IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. SEE YOU BACK IN THE BAR. NO.

OH YEAH. SEE PAST THE CHIMNEY IT'S GOING TO BE BACK IN THE BACK CORNER OF THAT FENCE AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS BOX HANGING OUT RIGHT ON THE STREET.

YES. THANK YOU. RIGHT.

RIGHT. NO, I THINK IT'S DOWN FURTHER. >> IT'S THEY SAY NO, WE LIKE KEEP GOING. IT'S AT THE VERY END IT LOOKS LIKE KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING, OK. I THINK IT'S THERE. SO MY QUESTION IS IT SEEMS LIKE THAT COULD BE TURNED AROUND AND PUT AROUND THE CORNER AND ALL THAT'S REALLY SHOWING IS HBC.

MY QUESTION IS IS WERE THE OTHER METERS GOING? AND I HOPE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PUT ON THAT STREET FOR I MEAN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU DON'T WANT IT ON THE PARK SIDE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU COULD HAVE IT ON THE INSIDE WHERE THE BATHROOMS BUT THERE'S THAT'S ALSO PAVED AND READY FOR GESTURE EVENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF YOU WALK THROUGH THERE, IT'S SOMEWHAT SHELTERED.

YEAH. THIS IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY EXPOSED TO EVERYONE DRIVING

DOWN THAT STREET. >> SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT THERE.

I FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE CHANGED OR LOOKED AT OR IT BOTHERS ME.

I MEAN I WALK IT EVERY DAY AS WELL AND I GUESS MY ONLY THING IS WHAT WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND BUT WHAT ELEVATION? I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD PUT IT ON ANY OTHER ELEVATION I GUESS.

>> SO THAT'S WHAT IS FOR ANYONE THINKING AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME

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OF CARS THAT ACTUALLY DRIVE DOWN WATER STREET. >> I THINK MORE PEOPLE USE THE PARK AND THAT BATHROOM AREA AND CHURCH OF THE CROSS THEN RIDE DOWN WATER STREET.

>> SO THE UTILITIES FOR THIS ARE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE SPECIFIES THAT IT SHOULD BE IN REAR OR SIDE YARDS NOT FACING SIDE STREETS.

SO THIS IS THE HEART OF THIS STRUCTURE BECAUSE IN THE RIVERFRONT EDGE ZONING DISTRICT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS THE RIVER. THEY ALL FRONT THE RIVER SO THAT ELIMINATES THE FRONT THE WEST ELEVATION WHICH IS THE SIDE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE CHURCH HAS THE PORCH THAT TAKES UP THAT WHOLE SIDE AND THEN THE RAMP IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON THAT SIDE OF IT. AND THEN THE EAST ELEVATION WHICH IS THE ONE ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT QUITE ENOUGH ROOM ON THIS SIDE OF THE DOOR TO ALLOW FOR THAT.

AND ON THIS SIDE OF THE DOOR IT IS FRONTING ALMOST THE PARK. SO IT WHILE IT WHILE THE ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HERE, IT'S BEING PROPOSED AT THE FURTHEST LOCATION AWAY FROM CALHOUN STREET AS POSSIBLE ON THE REAR ELEVATION WHICH IS FACING A STREET BUT IS IS THERE AND THEY WILL BE PUTTING IT IN A SERVICE YARD THAT MAKE SURE THEY COVER IT. BUT YES, IT IS A CHALLENGE. BRUCE AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS IT IS VISIBLE BY THE STREET BUT THIS IS THE ONLY OTHER LOCATION THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY WHERE IT COULD BE RIGHT HERE AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A SERVICE YARD THAT LONDON SERVICE DETAIL IS IN YOUR POCKET BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I PUT IN THE POWERPOINT.

>> WELL, THOSE ARE JUST IDEAS THAT I HAD THAT WERE BOTHERING ME SO I HAD TO VOICE THEM AND THEN THE SECOND IS NO, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HPC BUT I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE LIGHTING FIXTURE SCHEDULE. I'M THE LIGHTING DESIGNER AND I SEE THAT YOU'RE CALLING OUT LCD LIGHTING. ONE TECHNIQUE THAT I USE IN PROPERTIES LIKE THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING WITH AN INCANDESCENT WHICH MAY SOUND COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS WHEN YOU GO WITHIN CONDENSES BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE LOAD THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON THE CIRCUIT. SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR LOAD PROPER AND THE MATERIAL THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR EXAMPLE YOU'RE BUYING FIXTURES THAT HAVE LCD LIGHTING IN DRIVERS ALL CONTAINED IN THEM. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS IF THE DRIVER GOES BAND OR PART OF THE LCD GOES BAD YOU HAVE TO THROW THE WHOLE FIXTURE AWAY BY GOING COMPLETELY INCANDESCENT.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE ALL OF THESE LAMPS THAT ARE COMPLETELY AVAILABLE AND THEY HAVE GOOD COLOR RENDERING AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AND ALSO COLOR TEMPERATURE IN THIS YOUR COLOR TEMPERATURE NEEDS TO BE IN THE TWENTY SEVEN TO TWENTY NINE BUT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE AND THAT'S IT KEEPING WITHIN THE HISTORIC FEELING OF COLOR TEMPERATURE IN HISTORIC AREAS YOU USED TO HAVE MORE GAS LAMPS, YOU USED TO HAVE THE OLD TIMEY LAMPS. THOSE LAMPS ARE ALL IN THE 27 K SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT THERE. NO, NO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EXTERIOR HPC BUT AS A HISTORIAN I THINK A LIGHTING DESIGNER I HAVE TO ADD THAT COMMENT IN THERE.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S MARK TIME PERIOD WOULD BE THE INCANDESCENT LCD.

WELL YOU IT'S YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THESE PRODUCTS IN INCANDESCENT BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT LGB LAMPS IN THESE INCANDESCENT FIXTURES BECAUSE GO TO LOWE'S, GO TO HOME BEFORE

YOU SEE THE ABUNDANCE OF LAMPS OUT THERE. >> SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THE LCD FIXTURE GOES BAD? YOU REPLACE THAT WHOLE FIXTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO COMPONENTS IN THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DRIVER IS IN THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LCD CIRCUIT BOARDS IN THERE AND THOSE COULD GO BAD. NOW IF THE THING GOES BAD TO SCREW A NEW LAMP.

SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION AS A LIGHTING GUY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S INFORMATION I WOULDN'T HAVE CONSIDERED AS I REVIEWED IT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT WHEN WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE PROJECT LINE. IT WON'T BE FIRST. THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROBLEMS THOUGH WE'VE GOT TO FIX FIRST THE OTHERS I'M SURE YET. NO.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY IS GREAT INFORMATION TO HAPPEN. BRUCE, IN FURTHER DISCUSSION I'VE GOT A QUESTION REGARDING THE ROOF. DOES YOUR AND AN OVERALL QUESTION AS THIS IN ESSENCE IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND WE FALL UNDER REHABILITATE? IS THERE A PERIOD THAT'S BEING SOUGHT TO TO EMULATE IN THE REMOVAL OF THE SCREEN PORTION? THINGS OF THAT NATURE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT, YOU

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KNOW, MAKING THAT ADJUSTMENT AND CHANGING THE EXTERIOR VENEER OF IT AND THEN CHANGING IT FROM WHAT APPEARS TO BE A FAR VE ROOF TO A COORDINATED ROOF.

PERSONAL PREFERENCE FOR ME WOULD BE TO SEE IF THE ROOF AS OPPOSED TO A COORDINATED ROOF ON THE STRUCTURE SO MY QUESTION REALLY IS WHAT'S THE DRIVER BEHIND THOSE AESTHETIC

DECISIONS ME? >> SO WITH THIS PROJECT IT IS NOT BEING BROUGHT BACK TO ONE SPECIFIC PERIOD IN TIME RENOVATION RATHER THAN RESTORATION ON THIS ONE.

>> SO IT IS BEING RENOVATED IN ORDER TO BE REUSED VERY DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS DONE BY MATTERS WENT THROUGH AND AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE PIECES AND THEN DID A PUBLIC SURVEY THAT DISCUSSED WHAT PEOPLE SAW AS THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURES OF THE BUILDING. AND A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WENT INTO THESE PLANS WAS BASED ON THEIR HISTORIC KNOWLEDGE THROUGH THEIR PRESERVATION PLAN. BUT THEN ALSO WHAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, PEOPLE WHO TOOK THAT SURVEY BACK IN 20, PROBABLY 18, WHAT THEY SAW AS IMPORTANT FOR THAT STRUCTURE AND THE THINGS THAT WERE NOT FOUND TO BE IMPORTANT OR IF THEY WERE LOST WOULDN'T BE OF CONCERN INCLUDED THAT THE PORTION OF THE PORCH THE SCREENING FOR THE PORCH, THE CHIMNEY ON THE BACK. SO THE SCREENING I CAN SPEAK TO THAT WOULD A LITTLE BIT THE ROOF SELECTION. BRYAN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW TRAVEL OR TO BE HONEST WITH YOU EITHER YOU NOTHING TO MAKE BECAUSE WE'VE

GOT THE COUNTY CHANNELS GOT TO BE ABLE TO PICK IT UP. >> SO OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WENT FROM CORRUGATED TO FROM TO COORDINATED FROM BOBBY.

NO, NO, I HATE TO GIVE IT THAT ANSWER BUT IT CAME FROM A DESIGNER LIKE THAT.

I HAD TO GUESS A LITTLE MORE RIGID THE OIL CAME IN. I MEAN BUT OTHER THAN THAT.

>> THANKS MAN. HI. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY NEAT PROJECT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS COMING MAYBE USE THIS AS A MODEL INSTEAD OF THE REPLICATION. YEAH, I WAS I WAS GONNA BRING UP THE ROOF THE ROOFING MATERIALS AS WELL. I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY LOOK AT POTENTIALLY USING THE SAME ROOFING TREATMENT FROM PERIODS THAT THEY FOUND AND IN HISTORICAL INSTANCES RATHER THAN JUST GO INTO A BLANKET CORRUGATED METAL ROOF JUST FOR HISTORY'S SAKE AND TRY TO STAY AS TRUE TO THE OLDER THE OLDER PLANS AS POSSIBLE. SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION ALL THESE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND THEY'RE GOING GONNA BE PASSED ALONG OR HOW IS THIS

GOING TO WORK? >> YOU WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS SIMILAR TO MAKING A MOTION. SO IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY TAKE A LOOK AT THE ROOF MATERIAL OR TAKE A LOOK AT THE LIGHTING, TAKE A LOOK AT THE SERVICE YARD LOCATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'LL INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR

RECOMMENDATION TO ANYBODY THAT MAY BE MAKING. >> WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS AS IT RELATES LIKE POST OUR DECISION HERE TONIGHT? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR

THIS PROJECT? >> IT WILL GO TO THE VIDEO ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE APPROVAL OR OR MODIFICATIONS BASED ON HEARD HER GETTING OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT AND THEN IT WILL BE IT WILL BE ABLE TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH THE BUILDING SAFETY DEPARTMENT ON HER OWN THROUGH TO ME BY JUST OUR RECOMMENDATION SHE'S GOING

TO REVIEW THAT AND MAKE HER OWN DECISIONS FROM THERE. >> CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WHERE WE'RE JUST MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO HER AND THEN SHE'S MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE ON OR DO WHATEVER IGNORE EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING . YES, YOU DO ADMINISTER IS THE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR A

PUBLIC PROJECT. >> I WILL SAY THAT WHILE IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THAT ONE HUMAN

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RECOMMENDATION IT IS BASED ON THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

SO COUNCIL HAS FED INTO THIS THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESERVATION PLAN PROCESS AND WHILE THE AUDIO ADMINISTRATOR IS CURRENTLY HEATHER COLIN WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF IT. AND SO IT HAS COME ACROSS MANY, MANY DESKS BEFORE IT CAME HERE TONIGHT. SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON MAKING THAT FINITE DECISION BY HERSELF. IT IS A TEAM EFFORT. SHE IS JUST THE SIGNATURE AT

THE AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> THANK YOU. I'M JUST A FEW MORE THINGS THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC ENDEAVOR. WE RECENTLY HAD A SUBMITTED THAT CAME BEFORE US IN WHICH WE REALLY HELD THE LETTER OF THE LAW AS IT RELATED TO THE REHABILITATION STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR.

I DON'T SEE THAT SAME SCRUTINY BEING PLACED UPON THIS. >> THE REVIEW CRITERIA ARE THOSE FOUND IN SECTION 3 TO 4 3 RATHER THAN 3 18 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WITH THIS IT HAS BEEN COMPARED TO THOSE CRITERIA AND HAS BEEN FOUND TO MEET THEM BASED ON WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED SO THE DECIDING MATERIAL ALL BE MAINTAINED, THE SHUTTERS THAT ARE THERE WILL BE RESTORED AND NEW SHUTTERS ADDED TO THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE THERE.

THE DOORS AND WINDOWS ARE RESTORED IN PLACE RATHER THAN BEING REPLACED WITH NEW DOWN TO

THE SAME. >> ANYTHING THAT IS REMOVED THE CATEGORY THE CATEGORIZING OF THE STORAGE OF THE RE INSTALLATION ALL OF THAT TO THE SAME DEGREE.

YES SIR. SO AGAIN, GIVEN THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SEE THAT THIS IS BEING HANDLED IN THE SAME LEVEL OF SCRUTINY AND THEN SEEING THE ROOF CHANGE FROM A FIVE TO A CORE GATE AND THAT TO ME THAT'S HUGE. I MEAN MIGHT AS WELL PAINTED A DIFFERENT COLOR TO THAT LIKE THAT'S THE AESTHETIC DIFFERENCE THAT THAT MAKES.

SO I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT EMOTION THAT I AM GOING TO VOTE YES FOR TO INCLUDE THAT THE ROOF BE MAINTAINED AS A V NOT EVEN TO BE RECONSIDERED BUT THAT IT THAT THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT BEING TAKEN TO A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A LOT MORE LENIENCY FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE BEING TAKEN BY THE TOWN'S BEHALF AS IT RELATES TO A PREFERENCE OF SAID INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE NOT SAYING IT LOOKS BAD I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF LIBERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN THIS AND IT'S WHERE THE LAST WITH THE LAST VOICE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME, YOU KNOW THAT THE PEERS WOULD BE BUILT IN THE SAME MANNER THAT WOULD BE RELATIVE TO THE HOME THIS TIME THAT THE DECIDING MATERIAL THAT IS BEING UTILIZED TO REPLACE THE DAMAGED MATERIAL IS OF LIKE SPECIES AND THE GREENING AND THE FACILITIES, THE WINDOW FRAMES ALL OF THAT MATERIAL IS NOT A CM IS NOT A HARDY IS NOT BUT IT IS IN LIKE KIND. AND IT LOOKS LIKE A TRULY RESTORE STRUCTURE HELD TO THE SAME LETTER OF THE LAW THAT WE WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE IF IT IF WE WERE HELP. BUT I THINK I READ WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEA SEASON SUCH AS WHAT I READ IN YEAR THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE FOLLOWED IF YOU HAD TO REPLACE WINDOW SILL DOORS FLOORING AND SUCH THAT I BELIEVE THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN SO I WOULD AND I WOULD USE THAT TO COUNTER AND SAY WELL WHY ARE WE PUTTING A DIFFERENT ROOF ON IT? IT WAS BETTER REALLY, REALLY GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROOFS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND APPARENTLY IT'S IT'S QUITE SIGNIFICANT IN REGARDS TO THE OVERALL LOOK. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS ROUGH CONCEPT.

>> HERE'S THE DETAIL IT SHOWS A CORE GATED ROOF ON ONE OF THE PAGES.

AND THE CORE GATE IS JUST THE WAVES. IT'S IT'S THE LACK OF A BETTER TERM. IT'S THAT'S HAVE LIKE THAT IN ALL OUR.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WHERE THE PLAN B IS MORE FLAT OF JUST WITH THIS PIECE THAT YOU CAN SEE DEFINITE CORRECT CORRUGATED LOOKS LIKE SEE IT UP ON THE WALL.

>> THAT'S ONE WAY. OK, IT'S TYPICALLY USED AS A WINDOW.

OK. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ROOFING MATERIAL THAT THEY'RE USING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A CORRUGATED FATHER ONE IF YOU'RE

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A FATHER ONE IT SHOWS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND THERE'S ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH OF THE ROOF

CONDITION IT CONNECTED THAT SHOWS EXISTING CONDITIONS. >> SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHY DID THE ARCHITECT CHOOSE THAT WHEN YOU CALLED IT SEEMED LIKE THE TRADITIONAL ROLE FOR HAVE BEEN MORE TYPICAL. COULD YOU ANSWER THAT, MR. CHAD? YOU MAY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE LOOK AT THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT MEDICARE WAS PUT TOGETHER. I'M READING FROM PAGE ONE 86 ROOF THE EXISTING GREEN ASPHALT SHINGLE 5 SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH A CORRUGATED METAL ROOF. THE CORRUGATED METAL ROOF IS THE OLDEST ROOF DOCUMENT IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY. IMAGES THAT PROFILE SHAPE MAGICALLY EXIT WITHIN THE POWERS ON THE SOUTH BAY NOW SO THERE IS SOME OF THIS MATERIAL SOMEWHERE WITH PROPERTY WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS STRUCTURE OVER THE YEARS AND THE PICTURES FROM THE STRUCTURE HAVE BEEN KIND INTERESTING.

SO TAKE A LOOK AT. >> SO I WOULD I WOULD COUNTER THAT WITH YOU IF WE WANT TO IF WE WERE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS BUILDING BOOM WE'RE ALL SAID AND DONE IN AND BE ABLE TO SEE LIKE OKATIE YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER IN THE DIAGRAM THAT YOU LIKED THAT SHOW A COLOR CODED SUMMARY OF THE THE ERRORS THAT THIS HAD BEEN TOUCHED STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL IN THAT IN MY MIND GOES AGAINST A LOT OF WHAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS MEANT TO MAINTAIN IS IS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT A BUILDING AND SEE THAT

THIS WAS DONE IN SUCH AND SUCH TIME. >> THIS WAS DONE IN SUCH AND SUCH TIME. BUT I WANT TO GUARD AGAINST IS A PUBLIC PROJECT NOT BEING MAINTAINED THE SAME LETTER OF THE LAW THAT I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE FROM A PRESERVATION STANDPOINT AND JUST BEING A GREAT NEW FACILITY FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THAT'S WHITEWASHED TO ALL LOOK THE SAME AS IF IT WERE BUILT IN THE SAME AREA AND IT'S NOT.

THIS THING HAS A TON OF HISTORY SO WE'RE GOING TO REVERT BACK TO THAT.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COLOR CODED PICTURE THAT YOU THE COLOR CODED PICTURE IS ONE IMAGE FROM THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT DOES SHOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS IN WHICH THIS THIS STRUCTURE WAS ADDED ON TO. SO THIS IS THAT PICTURE. HOWEVER, I THINK THE PROCESS MAY BE THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN SPREAD OUT OVER A VERY LONG TIME.

SO THE IN DEPTH LIKE THE DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT I THINK IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THAT IS SIMILAR TO THAT WHICH WAS ON THE OTHER PROJECTS WAS DONE AT THE TIME OF THE PRESERVATION PLANS REVIEW AND THEN THESE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE RESULTS OF THAT PRESERVATION PLANT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE MAYBE THE DISCONNECT IS IS THAT THIS THE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ARE BEING DONE BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PRESERVATION PLAN WHICH WAS REVIEWED IN 2000 19 WAS REVIEWED BY GETTING THEM AND IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE HPC AND TOWN COUNCIL IS THE ONE WHO ADOPTED THE PRESERVATION PLAN MATTERS INC.

>> WHICH IS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO DID WELL. THEY DIDN'T DO THE ACTUAL DRAWINGS. AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM DID BUT MATTERS IS THE ONE WHO DID THE PRESERVATION PLAN. THEY'RE THE ONES THE PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE AS WELL. AND THIS DOCUMENT IS ON THE TOWN WEB SITE BUT IT'S ALSO IF EASIER THAN TRYING TO FIND ON THE COUNTY WEB SITE IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE AND TO SAY BEN SQUIRE POLK CARRIAGE HOUSE PRESERVATION PLAN IT'S ON THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE WEB SITE. SO IT'S BEEN THE STATE HAS ACCEPTED THIS AS WELL AS TOWN COUNCIL AND HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, BY TOWN STAFF, BY TOWN COUNCIL PLANNING MATTERS AS THERE WERE THERE WERE.

>> SO I THINK THAT MAYBE IS WHERE SOME OF THAT BUT IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR RATHER THAN THE PRETTY PICTURES THAT WE ARE NOW MET WITH. RIGHT.

TOOK PLACE AND I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR THE COMPANIES IN THE PARTIES THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THE RESEARCH WITH THE REPORT, WITH THE REVIEW, THE APPROVAL OF A REPORT.

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BUT IT DOES GO AGAINST SOME OF THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF OF PRESERVATION AND NOTING THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT A STRUCTURE SUCH AS THIS HAS BEEN REMODELED OVER THE YEARS AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN ESSENCE ABOUT TO GRANT APPROVAL TO LIFT IT PUT A NEW FOUNDATION UNDERNEATH OF IT, GIVE IT A COMPLETE FACELIFT AND THEN THAT FACELIFT IS OVER WITH.

IT'S GONNA LOOK SO LOOK UNIFORM FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S MEANT TO LOOK OUT. I WOULD JUST EXPAND ON THAT AND SAY THAT IT CAN KIND OF GET TWO WAYS WITH PRESERVATION AND EITHER PICKING A PERIOD AND STICKING WITH IT OR LETTING IT TELL ITS STORY. AND KAREN HIGHLIGHTING THE DIFFERENT PIECES LIKE THE DIAGRAM SHOWS FOR INSTANCE ON THIS DIAGRAM THE CHIMNEY THAT IS NO LONGER ATTACHED ON THE WATERSTREET SIDE IS BEING REMOVED. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM TOO, THERE IS THIS SORT OF OCTAGONAL PIECE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PLAN THAT'S BEING READ AT THE BOTTOM THERE THAT GOT IN FILLED IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY THAT'S BEING LEFT.

SO I'M WONDERING WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE OF WHAT GETS ADDED WHICH IS TAKEN AWAY WHICH GETS LEFT VERSUS DO YOU JUST LEAVE AND RESTORE IT AS WE'VE FOUND IT NOW AND LET THE FOR INSTANCE THE ROOFING AND THE DIFFERENT ASPHALT VERSUS CORRUGATED VERSUS 5 V TELL THE STORY AND HIGHLIGHT THAT AND DIFFERENT PLAQUES OR PLACARDS ACROSS THE SITE.

>> AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A RENOVATION, NOT A RESTORATION. SO IT IT IS MEETING THE CRITERIA FOR A RENOVATION BUT YES THEY MAKE IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN RENOVATED IN THIS TIME PERIOD AND THIS TIME PERIOD AND THIS TIME PERIOD HIGHLIGHT THAT AND LET THAT THIS IS THE HOUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY THIS IT WAS UPDATED HERE UPDATED HERE AND UPDATED HERE AND THE POLES ARE JUST TRYING TO BUILD WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> YEAH. AND I GUESS I'M SAYING YOU KNOW, I WAS I MEAN I TOOK PART IN ALL THE TOWN BUILDINGS THAT WENT ON ONLINE WHERE PEOPLE WERE GETTING GIVING INPUT AND SUCH AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. I AGREE THAT THE MID 20TH THE 1950S SCREENED PORCH OR INFILL ON THE SECOND FLOOR SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE DOWN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PERIOD. BUT I WONDER WHY WE'RE TAKEN OFF THE CHIMNEY ON WATER STREET BELIEVING THE ADDITION ON THE FIRST FLOOR WHERE IT'S FILLED IN ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT WEST

SIDE FIREPLACE. >> DO WE DRAW A LINE TO WHERE DOES THE TOWN DECIDE TO DRAW A LINE WHERE THE CUT OFF IS OF RESTORATION VERSUS GOING BACK TO A CERTAIN PERIOD OR NOT ? I GUESS I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANYTHING AND I'M JUST DRAWING QUESTIONS OF WHAT DO WE FOCUS ON, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND AND HOW DO WE TELL HOW DO WE LET THE SQUARE POKE HERE? JUST TELL A STORY THAT IT'S ALREADY TELLING NOW WITHOUT AS JOSH ALLUDED TO SORT OF WHITEWASHING CERTAIN PERIODS AND TAKING NOT JUST BECAUSE WE

WANT TO BLOOM. >> I WANT TO PUT YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THE HOT SEAT.

YOU KNOW, IN THIS DISCUSSION I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS HAD BEEN DONE PREVIOUSLY IN WORKSHOPS AND IN OTHER MEETINGS THAT HAD BEEN HELD AND HOW TO GET TO WHERE RAND ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THE ROOF WHICH OK, I THINK YOU BRING UP THE FACT THAT THAT LITTLE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE COPYING A PART OF THE ROOF THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ROOF WAS INSTALLED WHEN THE EXISTING METAL ROOF WHEN

WAS THAT PUT REPLACE EARLY EARLY 20TH CENTURY. >> SO THEY'RE COPYING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE OLDEST WORLD, THE OLDEST MATERIAL THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND ON THAT PROPERTY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE COPYING. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WAS EVEN INVENTED THEN OR IF THAT'S THE STANDARD ROOF THAT WAS USED BACK THEN, WHAT MOST LIKELY THE GREAT ROOF STRUCTURE WAS JUST PIECES OF WHATEVER THEY FOUND LYING AROUND AFTER THE WAR WAS PROBABLY NOT A METAL ROOF. IT'S JUST STUFF STUFF AT SOME POINT A ROOF GOT PUT ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DURABLE A METAL ROOF THAT GOT REPLACED THEY GOT REPLACED, THEY GOT ADDED ON TO AND THEN THEY WENT TO ASPHALT AND THEN SO THE METHODOLOGY THEY'RE USING IS TO

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TRY TO FINDING A ROOFING MATERIAL THAT IS HISTORIC BUT CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WOULD HAVE ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY IF THESE WERE OUTBUILDINGS OR PUT TOGETHER IN THOSE ORIGINAL

ROOMS MAY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, CEDAR SHAKES. >> THAT'S POSSIBLE.

SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO THIS THING ? GRANTED THERE'S BEEN A TON OF PLANNING PUT INTO PLACE BUT NOW IT'S BEFORE US AND WE GET THE LAST SAY I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A SAY YES OR NOT. WE'RE JUST I THINK THIS IS JUST BEING PRESENTED TO MAYBE I'M UNDERSTANDING OR DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO US BECAUSE IN 2017 IS REQUESTED THAT ANYTHING THE TOWN IS DOING IT JUST WENT THROUGH AND WE NEVER AS HPC BODY NEVER LOOK AT ANYTHING. SO NOW I THINK TO ME IS THIS JUST A COURTESY CALL IN A SENSE IT IS SORT OF HOWEVER THE RECOMMENDATION THE VIDEO ADMINISTRATOR RECEIVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HPC AS SHE MAKES HER FINAL APPROVAL OR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS FOR AN APPLICATION FOR A PROJECT IF THE ROOF IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH INTO OR OR LOOK INTO MORE THAN IT SHOULD BE

SOMETHING THAT YOU INCLUDE IN THAT RECOMMENDATION. >> HOWEVER, THAT BECAUSE THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY IS THE ADMINISTRATOR IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THAT IS 100 PERCENT GOING TO CHANGE LIKE IT WOULD IF IT WERE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BEFORE YOU LIKE THE GARAGES THAT WE THOUGHT TONIGHT THAT WHEN YOU PUT A CONDITION ON IT THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE MET PRIOR TO THE FINAL BUILDING PERMIT BEING ISSUED.

SO I MEAN WITH THIS IT IS A RECOMMENDATION HOWEVER IT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS THE APPLICATION IS REVIEWED. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO INCLUDE YOUR THOUGHTS IN THAT RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THEY WILL BE REVIEWED AND THE LETTER WILL BE WRITTEN AT THE HPC SEES THESE AS DEFICITS OR AS AREAS THAT NEED MORE ATTENTION PRIOR TO THE FINAL APPROVAL OR APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS BEING GRANTED.

SO IF IT'S BACKED UP BY INFORMATION FROM ENGINEERING FIRM, I GUESS THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING BACKED UP ANY COMMENTS ADDITIONAL? I DON'T I WAS I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE LEVEL OF DETAILS ON THESE CONSTRUCTION PLANS IF ANYTHING BEFORE THERE IS ALL TALK OF PRIOR APPLICATIONS IF ANYTHING WAS THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AS FAR AS CATEGORIZING EACH WINDOW AND DOOR AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH IT AND ALL THE ELEVATIONS I MEAN I WOULD HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM GIVING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR IT. I MEAN THE I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE ACTUALLY TO EXPECT SOME PRIVATE PLANS TO HAVE THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL ON ON A RENOVATION OR A STRUCTURE I GUESS WOULD BE MY CONSIDERABLE COST I MEAN CONSIDERABLE CONSIDERABLE LOSS.

BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF AT ALL. I MEAN IT IS NOT ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS THIS IS THE STANDARD THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THAT'S IN ANY OTHER FURTHER

CONCESSION OR ACTIVITY. >> YES, THERE'S A LIGHTNING PROTECTION SYSTEM CALLED OUT

HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHAT ARE YOU. I COULDN'T. I'M SORRY.

>> THERE'S A LINE PROTECTION ALSO THIS THAT'S CALLED OUT TO BE IMPLEMENTED INTO THE DESIGN . I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS FOR THAT OR THE FILLS THE AIR TERMINALS ARE HAVE BEEN SPECIFIED DEBATE MYSTERIOUS THE LADY PROTECTION INTERESTING.

I MEAN I DIDN'T SEE THAT BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE BACK IN PRESENTED SOMETHING FOR SAFETY PURPOSES THAT'S MORE CONTEMPORARY FEATURE JUST LIKE I SAW SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS AN OPTION IN SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS JUST PURE OPTION. THAT'S FOR IT DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE SPEED SPRINKLERS JUST AN OPTION IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED TECHNOLOGY BUT IT WILL BE USED AS A COMMERCIAL TOGETHER.

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>> YEAH. WITH THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE IF THERE IS ROOM TO PUT IN A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE BY THE TIME THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS THERE

IT'LL BE GONE OTHERWISE. >> WELL ALSO WHERE'S THE RISER AND LIFT STATION GOING TO BE LOOKING IN THE RISER INLET STATION HAS SOME IT'S IN A CLOSET.

>> IT'S ASSOCIATED OFTEN THERE IS ALSO THE MEP THERE IS ANYBODY HOLDING UP IT'S BECAUSE YOU KNOW I HAVEN'T I'VE SEEN IT'S YEAH I THINK IT'S IN THAT CLOSET OFF THE CONNECTOR ONE FOR OUR BIGGEST HANG UP IS I FEEL LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A

TON OF THE EXTERIOR. >> IT'S SIMILARITIES OF THE STRUCTURE AND FEEL LIKE IT'S BEING DONE IN THE MANNER TO MAKE IT LOOK QUOTE UNQUOTE UNIFORM AND FRESH AND NEW.

>> BUT THIS BUILDING HAS NEVER BEEN UNIFORM FRESH AND NEW AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THIS STRUCTURE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THE EXTERIOR FACADE THAT I SEE DOESN'T ACHIEVE THAT GOAL CITING MATERIAL WILL NOT BE REPLACED WHEN IT DOESN'T NEED TO.

>> THERE ARE A FEW PIECES ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE GROUND BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SITTING AT GREAT THAT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED BUT THE DECIDING MATERIAL THAT IS ON THE

STRUCTURE IS WHAT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. >> OWNER SAM WHAT ROOM IN THE LOCATIONS WHERE IT MUST BE REPLACED BUT WHATEVER CAN BE RETAINED WHICH IS IN THIS CASE A VAST MAJORITY OF IT WILL BE RETAINED AND LEFT ON THE BUILDING.

>> IT'S NOT BEING DECONSTRUCTED EXCUSE ME LIKE THE GARVIN HOUSE WAS THIS ONE IS IS GOING TO REMAIN STANDING AND IT IS NOT OCCUPIED RIGHT NOW REALLY BUT IT WILL BE IT WILL REMAIN IN THE FORM THAT IT IS CURRENTLY IN WHILE THESE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE.

>> I DO APPRECIATE THAT BUT I KNOW IT BY THE TIME ALL OF THE FLASHING HAS BEEN ACCOMMODATED FOR AND THE PARTICULARS ASSOCIATED WITH THE INSTALLATION HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND THE EXTERIOR SCREEN PORCH THE SCREENS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS THAT ARE GOING AWAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF AND THE ROOFS THEN REMOVED AND YOU GET DOWN TO THE REPAIR AND THE RESTORATION OF THE WINDOWS WHICH THERE ARE THREE ALTERNATES THAT ARE LISTED HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT AS OPPOSED TO RESTORING THE WINDOWS.

>> MY BIGGEST CONCERN MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT AS THIS IS VETTED OUT AND INPUT INTO THE HANDS OF ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION IS THAT THIS DOCUMENT DOESN'T PROTECT AGAINST THAT FINISHED PRODUCT FILE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE AND A LOT THE PIECES THAT I THINK THAT YOU ALLUDED TO ARE MEANT TO STAY. THEY DON'T STAY AND IF WE HAVE A STRANGE SITUATION WHERE DIFFERENT PIECES JOIN IT, IT JUST COMES OFF.

THERE'S A AN EASY REASON THAT'S GIVEN AND THEN AGAIN WITH SOMETHING DONE IT JUST LOOKING UNIFORM ACROSS THE BOARD THAT CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF YEAH. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIKE? I WAS SAYING WHAT HE'S SAYING COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE MAKEUP.

WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND OTHER RESULTS COMMENTS CAN BE MADE IN A RECOMMENDATION AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS PASSED ALONG AND TAKEN FROM THERE CORRECT AND THEN REVIEWS THAT

THE RECOMMENDATION STUDIO ADMINISTRATOR. >> SO THAT GIVES THE STUDIO ADMINISTRATOR IN THE STUDIO ADMINISTRATOR IS THE IS THAT THE FINAL STEP BEFORE PASSING

IT OFF TO THE TOWN TO GO FOR A PERMIT? >> CORRECT.

OR ANY TOWN PROJECT. CORRECT. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

>> THAT'S WHAT THE TOWN PROJECTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID I RECALL IN 2070 I THINK AS YOU MENTIONED THERE IS A DISCUSSION ON HOW COULD THINGS BE DONE WITHOUT US EVEN KNOWING ABOUT BRECHT. THAT'S WHERE THIS CAME INTO

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PLAY. SO SO IF WE DON'T SAY IT NOW OR YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY IT BUT I SENSE THIS TO ME IS THE WAY THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN 2007 IN THE PAST WE'RE SIMPLY JUST THERE BEING NICE TO US AND LETTING US GIVE OUR COMMENTS AND THEN PASSING

IT ALONG. >> WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER STRAIGHT THROUGH TOWN PROJECTS. THAT'S THE REALITY OF HPC QUARTER.

WE MADE A MOTION TO DENY THIS APPLICATION IN GRANTED APPROVAL THEORETICALLY YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IT STILL GOES TO THE VIDEO ADMINISTRATOR AND IT'S CORRECT RIBAUT SO WE COULD DO ANYTHING.

>> SO THE COMMENTS THAT GOOD. NO. I MEAN REALLY I I JUST.

SO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING SAID THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE JUST PASSED ALONG IS THAT MOTION FOR THE REVIEW OF THE VIDEO ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY AS WE DO WITH ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT'S PRESENTED EXCEPT FOR TOWN TO DENY THIS.

I GET WHERE JOSH IS GOING WITH THIS. WE WE PUT THE BURDEN OF A PRIVATE CITIZEN TO BUY AN OLD STRUCTURE THAT'S SITTING VACANT AND WE PUT THEM THROUGH A RIGOROUS PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE HPC AND HAVING TO LISTEN AND ANSWER TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WHEREAS THE TOWN TAKES ON A PUBLIC PROJECT AND THE HPC HAS NO STANDING EXCEPT A RECOMMENDATION THAT SEEMS A BIT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN.

I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND JUST SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE AND THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WAS THERE WAS A BIG BROUHAHA BECAUSE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION WHEN THAT DISCUSSION WAS GOING ON IN BIG FIGHTS ABOUT IT.

>> WE GOT THIS AT LEAST THE TOWN COUNCIL TO ALLOW US TO DO THIS AND I'M JUST SAYING IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A COURTESY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. BUT IT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THE TOWN IS SET IT THAT'S THE WAY THAT IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT FURTHER I THINK IT HAS TO BE TALKED ABOUT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AND SOMETHING HAS TO BE PUT FORWARD.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. AND THAT'S IF YOU DON'T LIKE A SHARED. BUT THAT'S THE REALITY. I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE IN ESSENCE THERE THERE IS NO CHECK, THERE'S NO VETO, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO VETO WITHIN THE TOWN OTHER I MEAN OTHER THAN THEIR BUT THEIR PROJECT STILL HAS TO ABIDE BY

WHAT THE UGL SAYS IF IT IF IT MEETS THAT IT'S CORRECT. >> BUT THE ONLY PERSON THAT IS REVIEWING THAT IS THE TOWN ITSELF IS AS CITIZENS ON A PRESENTING THE TOWN DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE

WE'RE AT TODAY. >> SO FOR THIS PROJECT WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS BUT I MEAN FOR THIS PROJECT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO US. MAKE A MOTION SO THAT IT GOES THROUGH THE UNI OR ADMINISTRATOR. THE DUTY OF ADMINISTRATORS IS GOING TO REVIEW CERTAIN PLAN IS GOING TO BACK ANYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE WITH THE OF ADMINISTRATOR.

I TAKE MY CORRECT ME AS THE HISTORIAN AND UNDERSTANDING ALL THE NUANCES THAT GO ON WITH THAT AND THEN IT'LL BE APPROVED AND PASSED ALONG THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE BRING SOMETHING TO LIGHT THAT SHE DIDN'T SEE BEFORE. THAT'S RIGHT.

WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WE CAN SAY OF YOU KNOW, CHECK THE ROOF ,YOU KNOW, CORRECT IN THE MOTION. THAT'S CORRECT AND INCORRECT. AND I GO SO FAR AS TO SAY OUR MOTION DOESN'T NEED TO SAY DOUBLE CHECK THE ROOF. IT NEEDS TO SAY LET'S JUST IMAGINE THAT WE ALL AGREED THAT THE ROOF NEEDED TO BE SHINGLES. WE HPC CAN SAY IT IT NEEDS TO BE SHINGLES AND THEN IT'S ON THE DUTY TO GO AGAINST WHAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OR ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLECTIVE BODY. AND AT THAT POINT WE HAVE DONE ALL WE CAN DO IS RIGHT. SO AGAIN YOU CAN GO BACK BIG. I COUNT THE TOWN.

THEY KNOW THAT YOU DEAL BETTER THAN I DO. THEY KNOW THE THINGS I COUNT ON THEM TO BRING TO LIGHT. THIS IS WHY WE'VE DONE THINGS. SO THEN I'LL LISTEN AND IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND MORE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BLENDS A HISTORIAN HE KNOWS WAY MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I DO GREG. BUT YOU ARE UP HERE. AGREED.

VERY IMPORTANT REASON AS WELL AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ALL OF MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE

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RIGHT THERE OF A CITIZEN OVER TO ANY GOVERNMENT OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.

THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO TAKE A FIRM STANCE AND SAYING WHATEVER MOTION WE PUT TOGETHER I THINK IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD MAKE FROM A RECOMMENDATION STANDPOINT AS WE SEE FIT TO THE BETTERMENT OF THIS PROJECT AND NOT JUST TRUST BECAUSE THE UDA OF GOVERNS A LOT OF STUFF BUT IT DOESN'T DELVE AS DEEP INTO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ASPECT AT LEAST THE AUDIO ADMINISTRATOR IT WAS THE NEXT STEP THE LAST BODY BEFORE THIS THING GOES BEFORE BUILDING PERMIT AS WE OR GLENN DO IT SO YES AND YOU SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS I AS I MENTIONED THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE HPC.

>> IT WAS PUT OUT FOR A PUBLIC VETTING PROCESS THAT THEN A PRESERVATION PLAN WAS CREATED THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS. IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE HPC AND THEN ADOPTED BY TOWN COUNCIL. THAT DOCUMENT IS WHAT GUIDES THESE DRAWINGS THAT COME BEFORE THE HPC AS A REFLECTION OF THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS BID FOR QUALIFICATIONS REVIEWED THROUGH PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THE HPC AND TOWN STAFF THE PRESERVATIONIST GLEN DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS ONE BECAUSE HE WASN'T HERE YET BUT AARON DID AND I WASN'T THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL AS MYSELF AND THEN I KNOW YOU'RE NOT DISCOUNTING THAT BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS WHILE THIS SPECIFIC DOCUMENT GOES THROUGH LESS STEPS, THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH MORE THAN THAT. IT WAS ALSO REVIEWED BY THE SET OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.

SO OF AT THE STATE THEY THEY LOOKED AT THESE PLANS AND THEY SAID THAT THESE PLANS ARE ARE KOSHER I GUESS I DON'T KNOW FAVORITE THEY'VE GIVEN US THE NOD OF APPROVAL.

SHOULD WE SEEK A GRANT FUNDING FOR THESE IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO USE FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT THAT ARE NOT MUNICIPAL FUNDS? THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE PLANS THROUGH THEIR REVIEW AS WELL AND THEN NOW IT'S CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.

SO THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY BISHOP O TOWN STAFF HPC TOWN COUNCIL AND NOW THEY ARE BACK BEFORE WE SEE AND THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP PROGRAM TO RETURN WORKSHOPS.

I HAVE TWO OR THREE WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS A PUBLIC INPUT SURVEY THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR

OVER A MONTH. >> SO I MEAN IT'S IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED ON SEVERAL LEVELS BEFORE THIS DOCUMENT CAME FOR YOU TONIGHT, THIS LIVING DOCUMENT.

BUT THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO GET BUILT ALL THE TIME THAT LED UP TO THIS GROUP.

>> IT CARRIES WEIGHT AND IT LED TO THIS BUT THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO GET BUILT, CORRECT.

THE DRAWINGS THAT ARE BASED ON THE PRESERVATION THAT ARE BEING SAID, IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD MAKE AT LEAST THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS IN SOME SENSE TO ALLOW US TO FEEL COMFORTABLE AS A COMMISSION THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR IS GOING TO REVIEW THIS AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THE IDEAS OF THIS COMMISSION SHOULD BE PASSED ALONG AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF ISSUES. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEWHAT COMPLEX SO I THINK I'M JUST IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING IN A ROUNDABOUT HERE AND I WANT TO GET MOVE ON.

SO LET'S TRY TO PRESENT IT. IS THERE ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD? I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU COULD SPEAK CLEARLY

INTO THE MIKES. >> I CAN HEAR YOU. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOU, DEAR ADMINISTRATOR PRIOR TO GRANTING A FINAL ADOPTION OR ALLOWING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT REVISITING THE MATERIAL SELECTIONS FOR THE ROOF AND CONSIDERING ALTERNATE MATERIALS IN LOCATIONS COINCIDING WITH THE AGES OF THESE SPECIFIC COMPONENT IN NEXT ITEM FOR THE WINDOWS AND DOORS TO BE RESTORED WITHOUT ALLOWANCE FOR THE ALTERNATE OPTIONS LISTED IN THIS DOCUMENT IN CONSIDERATION

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GIVEN TO ALLOWING THE VENEER TO SHOW A DELINEATION THAT SPEAKS TO THE TIME OF EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPONENT OF THE STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE FINISHED ENTITY DETAIL ON ITS PAST THAT I ARE LOOKING FOR A SECOND OR SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT IN THAT MOTION I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDED SERVICE YARD EVALUATION AND ALSO THE COMMENT IN REGARDS TO COLOR TEMPERATURE AND REVERTING TO THE LIGHT FIXTURES BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING INSIDE IN THE FIXTURES OR OF 4000 K IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS THAT JUST

WOULDN'T REPRESENT INTERIOR PROPERLY. >> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT LIGHTING. THAT'S JUST MY PARTICULAR SINCE IT'S A TOWN PROJECT I HAVE THE ABILITY TO AT LEAST MENTION THAT THAT'S JUST MY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THAT DISCUSSION? IT CAN'T BE BECOME PART OF THE

MOTION CAN IT? >> ONLY IF THE MOTION IS AMENDED IT HAS TO BE AMENDED.

>> IF I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO ENSURE THAT THE LIGHT FIXTURE SELECTION IS IN KEEPING WITH COLOR TEMPERATURE REPRESENTATIVE OF HISTORIC FIXTURES AT THE SERVICE YARD

LOCATION YOU RECONSIDERED. >> AND LASTLY THAT LATTICE WORK TO INCORPORATE BETWEEN THE

BRICK PILLARS AS OPPOSED TO STUCCO ON SEEING YOU BLOCK. >> OKAY SO I NEED A SECOND FOR THAT. I'M SORRY MR. CHAIRMAN. SECONDS ON THERE PLEASE.

SECOND. I'LL SECOND SECOND. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? KERRY AND THEN THE DISCUSSION. SO THEN WE WOULD NEED A MOTION I MEAN SORRY WE WOULD NEED A VOTE TO AMEND SO WE'RE JUST VOTING TO ADD THAT WE'RE VOTING TO ADD THAT TO EMOTIONS.

>> SO NOW RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION.

NO, WE'RE JUST FELT WE NEED A WE NEED A VOTE AT THIS TIME WHETHER OR NOT TO INCLUDE

JOSH'S AMENDMENT TO THE PRIMARY MOTION. >> SO THEREFORE THAT BEING SAID THROUGH ROBERT'S RULES, I GUESS WHAT WE NEED IS ANOTHER MOTION TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OR DENY.

>> I'M SORRY. I'M I I GET CONFUSED. I'M SURE I WENT THROUGH ALL THE CLASSES AND I STILL GET COMPLEX ON THAT. SO ANYWAY, I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR A VOTE THAT YOU KNOW ALL IN FAVOR TO FAVOR. I THE NO OPPOSED SO PAST SO THE

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO OR HAS PASSED TO THE MOTION PREVIOUS. >> NOW YOU NEED JUST A VOTE ON THE NEWLY AMENDED MOTION THE CORRECT. SO THEREFORE I'M LOOKING NOW

FOR A SECOND NOTE. JUST ABOUT A SECOND. >> NOW I'M LOOKING FOR A VOTE

FOR THE TOTAL AMENDMENT IS A MINUTE. >> THE MOTION IS AMENDED.

YES. I'M ALL IN FAVOR. I I ONLY OPPOSED NAY 1 TO 1

OPPOSED EFFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND NOW WE HAVE ONE FINAL

[X. 1. Discussion Regarding Potential Amendments to the Town of Bluffton’s Municipal Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23, Unified Development Ordinance, Related to the Maximum Building Footprint and Height for the River House Building Type – Charlotte Moore, Principal Planner]

ITEM AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CHARLOTTE

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PARDON ME. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M GETTING THIS VIEW HERE.

WE'RE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. I'M SORRY. ONE MOMENT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS SIMPLY DISCUSSION. IS THAT CORRECT, SHERMAN VOTING OR YES.

>> LEAVE IT LIKE THAT FOR THE TIME BEING THERE'S NO VOTING OR ANYTHING.

THERE WILL BE NO VOTE ON THIS. >> SIMPLY I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION AND WHAT YOU CAN DO IS PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO THIS IS AN ITEM RELATING TO POSSIBLY ALLOWING A LARGER BUILDING FOOTPRINT FOR THE RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPE. THIS IS NOT A FORMAL TEXT AMENDMENT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AN INQUIRY TO TOWN STAFF. AND SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND WANT TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF AN OVERVIEW. SO YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION AND WE'RE MAKING A SUGGESTION WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE WITH.

>> BUT LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. SO THE RIVER HOUSE BUILDING

TYPE EXCUSE ME THAT ONE MOMENT . >> THERE WE GO.

STOP DOING THAT BECAUSE I KEEP COMING UP TO A DISPLAY THAT I DO NOT WANT.

NOT SURE WHY IT'S DRAWING OUT ANYWAY. >> SO THE PICTURE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS A RIVER HOUSE. IT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER OF BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE PERMITTED WITHIN OLD FILM. AND AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THIS PHOTO HERE, IT'S GOT A LARGE CENTRAL MASS AND IT SOMETIMES HAS EXTENSIONS BOTH SIDES. AND ACCORDING TO THE VIDEO IT'S TYPICALLY ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO 90 FEET. AND AS A RIVER HOUSE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING FACES INTO THE MAIN RIVER. THERE MAY BE A PORCH ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE STREET FACING SIDE. THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.