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THURSDAY, JULY THE 24TH, FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION, SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER.

MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

CHAIRMAN AMANDA DENMARK HERE, CHARLIE MORE.

YES.

YOU'RE KATHLEEN DUNKIN PRESENT MISSIONARY.

LYDIA DEPAUL HERE.

COMMISSIONER RICH DELCOR COMMISSIONER, JASON STEWART COMMISSIONER JIM GLENN.

THANK YOU.

NOTICE REGARDING A GERMAN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER NINE 30, UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE NINE 30.

MAYBE YOU CONTINUE TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR A SPECIAL MEETING DATE IS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT.

EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN.

AND THEN SPEAKING, AVOID DISRESPECT TO COMMISSION, STAFF, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MEETING.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

WHEN SPEAKING FOR THE RECORD COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

I HAVE AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

PLEASE MOVED IN A SECOND.

SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? YOU DO NOT.

OKAY.

NO OLD BUSINESS, NO NEW BUSINESS.

SO LET'S JUMP INTO OUR DISCUSSION WITH KYLE.

HEY EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO WORKSHOP TWO.

WE LOOK FOR THE DEJA VU HERE YEARS.

WE MOVED THROUGH THIS, BUT, UH, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, FOR THIS THIS TIME.

UH, AS WE, UM, UH, WORK TO REFINE, REVISE OUR DRAFT, UH, BLUEPRINT BLUFFTON, UH, QUICKLY FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE TUNING IN MY NAME'S KYLE MAY, I'M A SENIOR ASSOCIATE WITH MKS K WORKING WITH THE TOWN HERE TO DEVELOP THIS IMPORTANT DOCUMENT, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WE HAVE DEVELOPED, UM, A DRAFT AND PART OF THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETINGS HERE OVER, UH, THIS FIVE MEETING SERIES IS TO GO INTO, UH, THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, REVISIONS IDEAS FOR THAT DRAFT, UH, TO DEVELOP, UH, AND MOVE CLOSER TO AN ADOPTABLE DOCUMENT FOR YOU ALL, UH, TO LEAD YOU FORWARD IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

UM, QUICKLY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO A SCREEN SHARE LIKE I DID LAST, UH, LAST EVENING AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN SEE MY SCREEN.

EVENTUALLY.

THERE WE GO.

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UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS MEETING TWO OF OUR FIVE MEETING, UH, SERIES TONIGHT'S COMMENT OR, UH, TOPICS ARE GONNA FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY, UH, AND COMMUNITY, UH, FACILITIES.

UM, SO SAME AGENDA, YOU KNOW, TEAM AS, AS, AS YESTERDAY, SAME PURPOSE REALLY JUST WANT TO OPEN UP THESE CHAPTERS, REFLECT ON THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED, UH, FROM YOU, UH, FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, ON THE DRAFT.

AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HERE IN DETAIL, YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN TO ADDRESS, UH, IDEAS, UH, CONCERNS THAT MAY HAVE ARISE AND, AND, AND TAKE THIS TO, UH, ANOTHER VERSION.

SO, UH, THAT MENTIONED TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES ARE OUR TWO TOPICS FOR THIS EVENING.

JUST A QUICK REFLECTION ON, ON LAST NIGHT.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT OFFERED SOME COMMENTS, UH, ON OUR FIRST TWO TOPICS, PEOPLE, UH, AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, TEAM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOLLOWED UP, UH, WITH, UH, CHARLOTTE TODAY WITH NOTES.

UM, FROM THAT CALL, I WILL DO THE SAME, UH, AFTER OUR CALL HERE THIS EVENING, UH, AND IN ADVANCE OF OUR FINAL THREE SESSIONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT ONE.

I'D LIKE TO PACKAGE EACH OF THOSE, UH, SUMMARY DOCUMENTS UP FOR YOUR REVIEW, UH, THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK.

SO IN TERMS OF THE SUBSTANTIAL, SUBJECTIVE AND SIMPLE, UH, EDIT SCHEDULE, I WOULD, UH, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU, UH, IN ADVANCE OF OUR NEXT, UM, UH, WORKSHOP AND IN TERMS OF OUR NEXT STEPS WE HAVE, UM, AND CHARLOTTE WILL LOUDLY INTERRUPT ME HERE IF I'M WRONG, BUT AUGUST 2ND, FOURTH, AND 10TH, OUR NEXT WORKSHOP LAND USE AND HOUSING PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT HERE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE REALLY EXCITED TO, UH, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, ALL THESE TOPICS ARE SOMEWHAT INTERRELATED, BUT THOSE TWO IN PARTICULAR, UH, HAVE A STRONG, UH, RELATIONSHIP WE'LL FINISH, UH, WITH A FOURTH AND 10TH NATURAL RESOURCES AND RESILIENCY.

AND OUR FINAL, UH, MEETING ON THE, UH, ON THE 10TH WILL BE ECONOMICS AND THE PRIORITY INVESTMENTS, A CHAPTER BEFORE WE GET STARTED INTO TONIGHT'S TOPICS.

ARE THERE ANY QUICK COMMENTS OR THINGS YOU WISH YOU WOULD HAVE TOLD ME LAST NIGHT THAT WE CAN ADDRESS? YEAH.

ANYONE FROM APPEARANCE, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, GREAT DIRECTION, I THINK FROM THE GROUP AND I, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND HOPING TO ACHIEVE THE SAME, UH, TONIGHT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO START IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION.

UM, AS YOU REMEMBER FROM LAST EVENING, JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK WINDOW INTO WHAT WE'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF VOLUME OF COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THESE ARE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, THROUGH EITHER THROUGH STAFF MORE RECENTLY, OR THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN, IN, IN SEVERAL ROUNDS OF EDITS, BUT WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR ROUND, WE HAVE 31 COMMENTS OR YOUR 12%, YOU KNOW, OF THE OVERALL, UH, AS WE THINK ABOUT, REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT THE SUBSTANTIAL SUBJECTIVE AND SIMPLE.

AND, UH, AGAIN, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE BIGGER ITEMS AND THEN WORK OUR WAY TO, UH, WHAT WOULD WE VIEW? AND JUST IN TERMS OF THE REVISION, NOT NECESSARILY THE SCALE OF THE SUGGESTION, UH, WHAT ARE, UH, UH, A MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD OR CLEAR DIRECTION, UH, AND IT'S THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION IS, IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTING.

I THINK TO US, JUST IN THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS REALLY BROADENED AS A TOPIC, UH, IN THE FIELD FROM BEING A SIMPLE KIND OF VOLUME ANALYSIS OF THE VEHICULAR NETWORK TO REALLY BE MORE OF A STATEMENT ABOUT MOBILITY WRIT LARGE, UH, IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND, AND INDEED IN THE REGION.

UH, THIS IS A INTERESTING TOPIC, ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH WITHIN OUR TRANSPORTATION SECTION ARE OUR CHALLENGES OR OPPORTUNITIES THAT OUR REGIONAL IN NATURE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THINGS TO DO WITH, WITH CONGESTION, UH, WITH COMMUTING, UH, AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT INFLOW OUTFLOW EACH DAY, UH, WITH YOUR WORKFORCE AND RESIDENTS, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PLAY INTO, UM, THE CONCLUSIONS AND THEN EVENTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ACTION SET THAT WILL BE DRAWN FROM THIS ANOTHER PIECE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LIFT UP HERE BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK WITHIN THIS TOPIC IN PARTICULAR IS JUST LIKE A LOT OF THE TOPICS IN THIS CHAPTER, OR EXCUSE ME, IN OUR PLAN OVERALL VARYING LEVELS OF, OF CONTROL, UH, IN CERTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE OR CERTAIN SYSTEMS I SHOULD SAY.

AND MOBILITY IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, WHERE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF LAYERS, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ACTORS, UH, THAT, THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN YOUR SYSTEM, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO VEHICULAR NETWORK, VERY FEW ROADS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, UH, THE TOWN ARE ACTUALLY OWNED AND CONTROLLED AND MAINTAINED NO BY THE TOWN, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW.

NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY HOWEVER THAT THERE AREN'T, UH, KEY ACTIONS, UH, AND, AND, UH, PIECES OF ANALYSIS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, QUALITIES OF PLAYS AND QUALITIES OF LIFE AS WELL.

SO

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WITH THAT AS A QUICK PRIMER, HERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE PULLED OUT FROM, FROM YOUR COMMENTS, UH, WITHIN THIS CHAPTER, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UH, ONE ITEM THAT, THAT POPPED UP QUITE A BIT IS THE NEED FOR US TO EXPAND.

AND, AND I SEE THIS NOW QUITE CLEARLY REFERENCES IN HERE, THE MULTIMODAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS IN THE TOWN.

UH, AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW PROBABLY THAT, THAT, THAT TERM QUITE WELL COMMISSIONERS, BUT IF FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MIGHT BE TUNING IN MULTIMODAL REFERS TO JUST THOSE WAYS OF GETTING AROUND THAT ARE NON VEHICULAR, RIGHT.

WE THINK ABOUT THE TRANSIT NETWORK.

WE THINK ABOUT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, BIKING, WALKING.

UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE, THE DOCUMENT IS AS I READ THROUGH IT WITH, WITH FRESH EYES, UH, TO BOLSTER, I THINK OUR DESCRIPTION CURRENTLY OF THE SYSTEM, AND ALSO REVIEW WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE ACTION AGENDA.

ARE THERE OTHER SPECIFIC POLICIES OR EVEN PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE LIFTED, UM, THERE, ADDITIONALLY, UH, A REALLY UNIQUE ITEM FOR YOU, UH, MAYBE NOT IN YOUR REGION, BUT IN TERMS OF, OF PLANNING, UH, NATIONWIDE IS THE IMPACT, UH, IN IMPORTANCE OF, UH, THE TOURIST SHRINK SWELL SEASON.

UH, AND IF SOMEONE APTLY WROTE, UH, IN THE DRAFT THAT SEASONED SHOULDERS ARE GETTING WIDER AND WIDER, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE TIMES WHEN THAT'S AFFECTING YOU IS ALSO CHANGING AND HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGH COVID.

I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE DRAFT TO HIT THAT A LOT MORE DIRECTLY, SIMILARLY, TO KIND OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD YESTERDAY WITH PEOPLE WE TALKED ABOUT, WHO ARE THESE FOLKS THAT ARE MOVING HERE? THIS IS A UNIQUE ELEMENT, I THINK, WITHIN YOUR STORYTELLING AND ONE THAT WE NEED TO, UH, TO IMPROVE THE WAY WE, UH, ONE WE INVENTORY.

AND TWO, UH, WE TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF OUR AGENDA WITH ITEMS C UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PARKWAY.

I THINK WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TO GET OUT THERE IS THIS, THIS IS A PRETTY CRITICAL PROJECT.

UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITY, BOTH IN TERMS OF GETTING ROUND ALSO IN TERMS OF LAND USE, UH, IN TERMS OF, OF, OF CHARACTER MAINTENANCE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN THIS PARTICULAR INVESTMENT AND OTHER INITIATIVES THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, IN THE TOWN.

I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB.

I KNOW WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF TELLING THAT STORY, UH, IN, IN, IN CONNECTING IT AGAIN, SORT OF SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY, WE TALKED ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS AND NETS CONNECTIONS, CONNECTING US TO OTHER INITIATIVES THAT ARE OUT, UM, IN OUR OTHER CHAPTERS.

AND LASTLY, I'LL PAUSE AFTER THIS, OF COURSE, UH, EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE.

THIS WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT UP AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC COMMISSIONER, BUT THE CROSS CUTTING MULTI-USE PATHS.

SO WITHIN A SYSTEM LIKE YOURS, HOW IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT OVER ERAS, WHERE YOU'VE GOT PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS THAT KIND OF MEET PLAN DEVELOPMENTS, UH, YOU GUYS WHO'VE WRITTEN A BIKE OR HAVE WALKED AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

THERE'S CERTAIN STREETS.

YOU LIKE TO DO THAT ON THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T THE, THE THERE'S A REAL POWER TO THE CROSS CUTTING PATH, MEANING THAT GOES BETWEEN SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED OVER TIME.

UH, WE THINK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO IN TERMS OF, OF MAJOR SUBDIVISION OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHOEVER MADE THAT POINT.

UM, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A CRITICAL ONE, UH, IN ONE THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS, NOT JUST WITHIN, I THINK THE INVENTORY AND MAPPING, BUT ALSO PERHAPS WITHIN SOME SPECIFIC ACTIONS LATER IN THE AGENDA.

SO THAT'S LOCKED FOR ME.

LET ME, LET ME PAUSE THERE AND, UM, GET SOME REACTIONS, THOUGHTS, UM, ADDITIONAL IDEAS YOU HAVE, UH, WITHIN THIS CHAPTER.

THAT'S OKAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START.

CHARLIE'S GOING TO START.

OKAY.

UM, AND READING THROUGH THE CHAPTER AND, AND YOUR NOTES.

UM, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT IT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED.

UM, I THINK WE, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WE NEED TO MENTION PALMETTO BREEZE BY NAME AND BE WORKING WITH THEM.

UM, PATHWAYS.

I DO LIKE HOW IT'S IN THERE.

UM, THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY HAS BEEN FOR DECADES.

UM, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS SAFE INTERSECTIONS, UM, WITH MORE FOOT AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC.

UH, THE MORE INTERESTING IT GETS AT PLACES LIKE THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE ON 46 AND ONE 70, UM, OUT IN FRONT OF HAMPTON LAKE, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES IN TOWN, WE NEED TO EXPLORE, UM, SOME OF THE MORE LIKE THE FLASHING CROSS, LIKE WALKS AND SO ON.

I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THIS PLAN THAT, UH, WE RELATE TO THAT.

UM, KYLE, I DIDN'T, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.

UM, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY MENTION OF THE LINEAR TRAIL THAT COMES THROUGH A NEW RIVERSIDE, AND THAT'S A BIG RECREATIONAL AND, AND, UH, TRANSPORTATION IT'S MENTIONED IS IT, I DIDN'T SEE THE LINEAR TRAIL I SAW.

OKAY.

THE, YOUR TIME AT THE EAST COAST TRAIL, EAST COAST, IT'S IN THERE ONE TIME I SAW GREENBELTS OR GREENWAY OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S IT'S OH, I MISSED THAT

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ONE.

YEAH.

UM, I WAS LIKE, COME ON THAT THOUGH.

THERE WAS SOME CLARIFICATION, CAUSE IT KINDA, IT RUNS THAT NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR AND OUR CONNECTION TO IT IS WEAK.

I THINK, LIKE WE HAVE A SINGULAR POINT OF VIEW AND IT'S MORE OURS RUNS EAST WEST RATHER THAN NORTH SOUTH.

SO THE WAY IT'S DESCRIBED AS, AS IF IT WAS KIND OF COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND I'M SORRY, I INTERRUPTED YOU.

OH, YOU'RE FINE.

AND, AND IT'S, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE THE ONE PARKING LOT AND ACCESS ON 46 AND THAT'S IT.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN GO PARK A CAR AT ONE END AND WALK TO IT, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF THING.

SO, UM, ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PASS OVER ON 46 AND SEE A COUPLE WALKING DOWN AT ARE A FEW PEOPLE DOING IT.

SO IT'S GETTING USED.

UM, I THINK ONE OF OUR GOALS NEEDS TO BE SEEING HOW IT CAN GET USED MORE, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IT.

UM, THE, I SAW THE COMMUTERS TO HILTON HEAD MENTIONED, UM, IN THAT VEIN, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF BLUFF TONI ANS THAT COMMUTE TO SAVANNAH.

UM, MY WIFE'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

SHE LIVES IN GULF STREAM OR LIFTS.

YES.

SHE KIND OF DOES.

UM, SHE WORKS AT GULF STREAM AND SO DO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITIES AROUND.

AND THEY'RE USING THAT COMMUTER ROUTE OF 46, WHICH BRINGS UP SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD BE A MAJOR.

UM, SOMETHING THAT'S ADDRESSED IN TRANSPORTATION IS WE NEED TO WORK WITH JASPER COUNTY VILLE TO GET THE THOROUGHFARES GOING THROUGH THEIR AREA THAT CAN HANDLE NOT JUST US, BUT THEM.

UH, BLUFFTON PARKWAY, AS AN EXAMPLE, BLUFFTON PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO BECOME EXIT THREE ON 9 95, 46 IS GOING TO NEED, IF NOT WIDENING SOME, SOME TRAFFIC MEASURES ON IT.

UM, AS THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE GETTING APPROVED NEXT TO US, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY.

WE TALK ABOUT WORKING IN LATTES AND HOW WE DON'T OWN MOST OF THE ROADS AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH OTHER ENTITIES.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE SPIFF SPECIFIC IN THE ENTITIES WE'RE WORKING WITH AND THE GOALS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

UM, AND, UH, RELATED TO THAT, I NOTICED A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE IT SAID THERE ARE TWO MAJOR E EAST WEST ROADS, 2 78 AND 46.

UH, YOU NEED TO ADD BLUFFTON PARKWAY TO THAT.

CAUSE THERE, THERE TRULY ARE THREE.

AND THAT ONE, THAT ONE NEEDS TO POP ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAD FOR RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR YOU CO NO.

YEAH.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M TAKING NOTES AS WE, AS WE GO HERE.

I KNOW CHARLOTTE IS, UM, AS WELL, I THINK, UH, YOUR, YOUR POINT ABOUT JASPER COUNTY HARDY VILLAR WELL RECEIVED.

UM, YOU, I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN THIS, AS WE THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE ROADWAYS, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, CONTROL, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE INFLUENCE, I, WE WANT TO FIND THE RIGHT LANGUAGE, I THINK IN TERMS OF HOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WHO ARE THE RIGHT PARTNERS THAT WE WANT TO BE WORKING WITH ON THAT.

AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT TO POINT OUT JASPER AND HARDY THOUGH, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF HIGHLIGHTING THAT, THE DRAFT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WE TALK IN OTHER ELEMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE STURT STUDY AREA AND SURVEY AREA, AND WE BRING IT OUTSIDE THE TOWN.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THESE OTHER ELEMENTS, LIKE TRANSPORTATION OUTSIDE THE TOWN TOO.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD KATHLEEN? ANYTHING? UM, YES.

I HAVE COMMENTS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU'RE THINKING OF GOLF CARTS AS WELL AS THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF NOT JUST EVEN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OLD TOWN, BUT EVEN THESE COMMUNITIES, UM, BUCK WALTER ON ONE 70, THEY'RE CONNECTING TO OUR BIKEWAYS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED WE HAVE ABOUT SIGNIFICANT POPULATION, I THINK OF INTEREST OR USE FOR RECREATIONAL USE FOR BIKES PATHS FOR, UM, CYCLISTS, LIKE REAL LEGIT CYCLISTS, NOT JUST KIDS RUNNING AROUND ON THEIR BIKES, WHICH I THINK COULD BE YEAH, REAL BIKE LANES.

AND WE DON'T HAVE WELL CONNECTED ONES.

AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ISSUES WITH PEOPLE, HOW WELL PEOPLE SHARE THE ROAD.

AND SO, UM, I GET PARTICULARLY CONCERNED WITH SAFETY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GROUP.

AND SO I DON'T SEE THAT REALLY ADDRESSED WELL IN HERE CAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAN THESE MULTIMODAL PATHWAYS.

UM, AND THEN I'D LOVE TO SEE, AND THESE ARE KIND OF IN THAT A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS WERE IN THAT EMAIL I SENT SUBSEQUENT, BUT THERE'S, AND OBVIOUSLY I HAD A VERY DETAILED, UM, TRANSPORTATION COMMENTS IN MY, WITHIN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, BUT, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE ON THOSE.

UM, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, BUS ROUTES, NOT JUST A MENTION OF THE PALMETTO BREEZE, WHICH I KNOW

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WAS IN THERE.

AND I APPRECIATED BY THE WAY THAT THE PICTURE OF THE PALMETTO BREEZE WAS NEXT TO THE DIAGRAM, THE DIALOGUE ABOUT THE PALMETTO PRIESTS GOES, IT MAKES IT EASIER TO FIND.

UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, UH, WHERE THOSE BUS ROUTES ARE, WHERE THOSE TRANSPORTATION ROUTES GO, UM, AND WHERE THE GAP AND SEE A GAP ANALYSIS ON THAT.

UM, OR IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LEADING TO THE WHAT, HOW LYDIA OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER DEPAUL MENTIONED YESTERDAY, EVEN IF IT'S BECOMES A, A TASK OR AN ACTION ITEM TO ACTUALLY START LOOKING AT DOING THAT GAP ANALYSIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, AS ONE OF OUR ACTION ITEMS AND MR. CAIRO TIE REALLY QUICKLY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT ON THAT, BECAUSE I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT COMMENT LEFT IN THE DRAFT.

AND I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SPECIFIC IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT DO SOME OF THAT ANALYSIS AND WHAT THAT WOULD LEAD TO.

SO, UM, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE GAP ANALYSIS, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT TRANSIT PIECE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

FANTASTIC.

UM, THE THOROUGHFARE MAP, I JUST THINK IT NEEDS A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION WITH THE COMMUNITIES, UM, AND WHAT THOSE CONNECTORS ARE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN THIS CHAPTER WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 2 78 IS LOOKING AT RE BEING COMPLETELY REDONE BETWEEN US AND HILTON HEAD AND YOU'RE TALKING 20 TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION IS GOING TO HILTON HEAD.

AND THERE'S REALLY NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON WHERE WE LIVE HERE, UM, FOR THE 25% OF THE PEOPLE, THAT MEANS SOMETHING TO THEM.

UM, YEAH, SO I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE EXPANDED ON THAT.

UH, THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHERE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE TALKED, WHICH TALKS ABOUT INTERCONNECTED ROADWAYS, IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE GOING.

UM, I DIDN'T SEE THAT REFERENCED.

UM, AND I, I ALREADY KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR OLD, UH, ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN IS OUT OF DATE.

UM, SO THAT NEEDS TO OBVIOUSLY BE UPDATED WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING DONE, UH, OR HAVE BEEN DONE THAT HAVE AFFECTED THE PLAN.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE THE BUCK, WALTER BLUFFTON ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS, THE MULTIMODAL, UH, PATHWAYS.

AND I THINK THIS IS KIND OF WHERE CHARLIE WAS TALKING ABOUT SAFE CROSSWALKS, UM, AND PERHAPS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF WHAT THAT SHOULD BE, AND EVEN MAYBE LEVELS OF WHAT THOSE COULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE I THINK SAFE CROSSWALKS ACROSS 46, UH, CALHOUN STREET TO THE PROMENADE IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONNECTION THAN IS NEEDED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, GOING ACROSS TO 78, WHICH IS NEAT THAN WOULD BE NEEDED FOR SCHOOL TRAFFIC.

AND SO STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE, THE TYPES OF CROSSWALKS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS, IDENTIFYING THAT, YOU KNOW, OR, OR CATEGORIZING THEM IN SOME CAPACITY WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO START WITH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE CROSSWALKS PIECE TO COMMISSIONER, I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD BEST PRACTICES EVEN FROM AROUND YOUR REGION THAT WE COULD INCLUDE, ESPECIALLY SOME CHARACTER IMAGERY THERE.

UM, I'LL WORK WITH CHARLOTTE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE, UH, ADDRESS THAT MAYBE WITHIN THE ACTION AGENDA.

WHAT'S WHAT IS THE RIGHT TONE FOR THAT ACTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, TH THERE'S SOME GOOD WORK HAPPENING.

UM, I THINK WE COULD RELATE IN THERE AND YOU ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT PRACTICES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE SELF-REFERENTIAL I THINK IN THAT POINT TOO.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THEY WANT TO SHARE ANYONE PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ANYTHING WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT? OKAY.

COME ON UP.

I'M CAROL.

WHAT YOU FEEL WITH YOU FOR COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I PRINTED IT OUT AND IT FOR CERTAIN KEYWORDS LIKE SCHOOLS AND EDUCATION.

SO YOU SEE I'VE MARKED UP MY BOOK.

UM, SO MY FIRST COMMENT IS ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR, INCLUDING IN HERE, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, BEAVER COUNTY CONNECTS, UM, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN.

I ACTUALLY SERVED ON THAT STEERING COMMITTEE.

A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO IT, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT AS A PRIORITY ON YOUR, ON PAGE 1 52, LIKE THAT'S YOUR FIRST PRIORITY.

I LOVE THAT.

AND I GUESS MY ONLY REAL COMMENT IS, CAN YOU KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION LIST IS TO PRIORITIZE CONNECTIONS TO SCHOOLS.

WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON LAST NIGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT,

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YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SIDEWALKS RIGHT HERE, UM, AT MICROSOFT RALEIGH CAMPUS, BUT THEY GO TO NOWHERE.

SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT CONNECTIVITY HERE.

AND I'M SURE THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER PLACES.

AND I HAVE SOME APPS SOMEWHERE THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT IF WE NEED SPECIFICS, UM, KYLE, BUT IF YOU CAN PUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TO CONTINUE TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF, OF FOLKS WHO MAKE DECISIONS.

UM, WE'LL GIVE YOU EXTRA TIME HERE ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU ON, ON WHEN IT COMES TO THE SIDEWALK, CONNECTIONS, UH, HAVE YOU ALL TAKEN A STEP OF, OF MAPPING PRIORITY INVESTMENTS, LIKE THE PRIORITY GAPS TO BE FILLED? UH, OBVIOUSLY OUR TEAM COULD DO THAT.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN A STEP LIKE THAT BEFORE WE READ THE DOCUMENT THAT THE BIKE IMPAIRED.

UM, OKAY.

SO SOME OF THAT IS IN THAT REPORT.

UM, AND I WOULD SAY THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN UPDATED RECENTLY.

I WOULD SAY WHAT WE DID WITH THE COUNTY WAS PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AGO AND WE LOOKED AT SOME GAPS.

COUNTY-WIDE UM, THE ONES I WAS TALKING ABOUT, JUST THE ONES I KNOW THAT COME TO MIND IMMEDIATELY.

YEAH.

OH, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THAT PLAN THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT SINCE THEN, BUT, UH, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE ABOUT THIS TIME.

WELL, I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN AREA THAT WAS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNG AND I TOTALLY, TOTALLY SLIPPED MY MIND.

AND THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING.

I MEAN, IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

THANKS KYLE.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON COMMISSIONERS, UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SUBJECT, I DID JUST WANT TO QUICKLY HIT ON SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, UM, POINTS IF IT'S, IF IT'S OKAY.

NOT GO LINE BY LINE, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THIS DOCUMENT, BUT JUST TO, UH, GO OVER SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I PULLED OUT OF THE COMMENTS, IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

UH, ONE SECOND, ONE SECOND.

MS. MANNING HAS A COMMENT REAL QUICK TO ADD ONTO WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

UM, I GUESS I HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.

ONE WAS, I DID AGREE.

I, I DIDN'T SEE THE WORD GOLF CART IN THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.

CERTAINLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE USING THEM AND I KIND OF THINK, UM, THEY'RE USED IS PROBABLY, UM, I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE OF THAT.

UH, W AS FAR AS INTERCONNECTING WITH DEVELOPMENTS, UM, I'M ALL FOR BIKE PATHS AND FOR THE PEDESTRIANS FOR WALKING.

BUT I, WHEN I READ THIS CHAPTER, I'M LIKE, WHERE ARE WE? THIS IS BLUFFTON IN OUR SEARCH FOR A RETIREMENT HOME.

WE WENT TO PEACHTREE CITY AND THAT'S A COMPLETE, UH, TOWN THAT THEY ONLY HAVE GOLF CARTS.

SO YOU GO TO, WHEN YOU USE THE GOLF CART TO GO TO SCHOOL, A GOLF CART TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, UM, AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY BUILT THAT DEVELOPMENT IN NASHVILLE.

WE WENT TO A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY HAD A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND YOU WENT IN THERE AND THEY HAD THEIR OWN GROCERY STORE.

YOU WALK TO IT, YOU WALK TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEY HAD A LITTLE MINI POST OFFICE.

AND THEN IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING EXCITING, YOU COULD HOP IN YOUR CAR AND GO UP TO NASHVILLE.

I DON'T SEE THAT HERE.

YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T S I, I HEAR THIS WORD.

INTERCONNECTIVITY IS SOMEBODY IN BELFAIR REALLY GOING TO COME OVER TO HAMPTON LAKE I, AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S A STATEMENT IN THIS CHAPTER.

UM, THE BLUFFTON STATE OF MIND TO PERMEATE THE ROADWAY CARD IS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, CREATE A UNIFIED LOOK AND FEEL THAT IT'S UNIQUELY BLUFFTON AND SUPPORT THE NON-MOTORIZED AND ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION MODES THAT ARE NEEDED.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A MIX IN HERE AND CERTAINLY THE COMMUNITIES AROUND OLD TOWN, WE WANT THEM TO BE INTERCONNECTED AND BE ABLE TO WALK AMONG THEM, UH, IN BICYCLE.

UM, BUT I ALSO LOOKED AT THE MAP WHERE IT SHOWED THE TRAILS, AND IT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UH, IT'S 35 MILES TO COMPLETELY CONNECT THE SYSTEM REQUIRE ANOTHER DOZEN MILES.

WELL, I LOOKED AT THE MAP, THERE'S NO MORE DOZEN MILES.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE 35 MILES.

AND ARE WE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A BIKE PATH ON FORDING ROAD? I MEAN, I HOPE WE DO.

I WOULD LOVE THAT FROM A SAFETY ON MY OTHER HAT IS SAFETY AND THE, UM, SAFETY ACCIDENTS WITH PEDESTRIANS AND WITH GOLF CARTS ARE SKY HIGH.

PLUS EVEN WITH COVID,

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UH, FATALITIES ON THE ROAD, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE WENT UP 20%.

THERE WERE MORE FATALITIES IN 2020, SO ON 40 ISLAND ROAD.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE, UM, THERE WAS A TALK ABOUT, UM, WATER ACCESS IN FACT, IS THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS, EXPAND PUBLIC WATER TRANSPORTS, AND THERE'S NO MENTION OF WATER ACCESS FOR BOATS ALSO.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED HAVING THE INTERCONNECTING FOR, UM, CERTAINLY THE SCHOOLS AND HAVING A KID WOULD BE ABLE TO RIDE HIS BIKE.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

RIGHT.

BUT I'D ALSO DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR HANDICAPPED TRANSPORT.

AND MY MOTHER WAS IN A NURSING HOME FOR 18 YEARS, AND MY BROTHER NOW WAS THE DRIVER FOR THE TRUCK, BECAUSE THAT IS A VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT THEIR LOVED ONE TO A RESTAURANT OR COME WATCH SOCCER GAME.

UM, I DON'T SEE THAT MENTIONED AT ALL.

AND WE DO HAVE AN OLDER POPULATION ALSO WITH THAT OLDER POPULATION, SENIORS TRYING TO GET SHOPPING, RIGHT.

UH, AS THEY GET OLDER, IT GETS HARDER TO DRIVE.

SO IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME BUS TRANSPORT.

UM, BUT ALL OF THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM THE PLAN.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T SEE A MAP IN HERE THAT SAYS, HERE'S ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS, HERE'S WHERE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR.

OKAY.

AND I WENT THROUGH THE LAND USE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN TWO WEEKS.

WHERE IS THE PLAN? OKAY.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON A SHEET OF PAPER THAT SAYS, BUCK WALTER IS BUILT OUT TO THIS AND THE LITTLE HOUSE DIAGRAM AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS MANY MORE RESIDENTIAL, THIS MOST MORE COMMERCIAL PALMETTO BLUFF, RIVERSIDE.

THIS IS THE BLOB THAT IT IS NOW.

AND THIS IS WHAT'S EXPECTED BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU DESIGN THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

YOU LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WORKS IN THIS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT WORK IN THAT SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU WHAT I'M USED TO.

UM, THE OTHER ONE WAS, UM, CAMILLE COMPLETING THE, UM, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY ALL THE WAY COULD REDUCE THE OVERALL PRESSURE ON C 46, POTENTIALLY POTENTIALLY ALLOWING IT TO RETAIN ITS RURAL TWO-LANE CHARACTER.

THAT IS SO BY THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, AGAIN, THIS WHOLE CHAPTER WAS FILLED WITH VERY NICE STATEMENTS, YOU KNOW, FEELS GOOD.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS YOU'RE PUTTING HOW MANY HOMES IN RIVERSIDE, HOW MANY HOMES ON PALMETTO BLUFF, AND YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE RURAL NATURE OF 46.

WE'RE NOT WIDENING 46.

I'M NOT, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, OKAY.

AND THEN, AND SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN, I ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WHEN PEOPLE ARE AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR FIVE CYCLES? AND THEY SAID, WELL, THEY'LL JUST MOVE WELL, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE OBJECTIVE.

THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PLAN AND DO IT CORRECTLY AND PLAN INDIVIDUALLY.

SO I THINK THAT WAS IT.

NO GOLF CARTS WAS A KIT, A CRITICAL THING, AND ALSO KNOW THAT THE BOAT ACCESS, UH, PEOPLE DO WANT THAT PUBLIC BOAT ACCESS.

AND I GUESS I'LL JUST BELABOR IT ONE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LIVED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

WHAT WAS SO NICE IS TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE DRIVE YOUR CAR AND A THREE AND A HALF MILE, UH, SHADED, UH, 10 FEET WIDE WALKWAY, WHERE YOU COULD BRING YOUR LITTLE KIDS AND THEY COULD LEARN TO RIDE A BIKE.

UM, WHEN THEY GOT OLDER, IF THEY WANT TO BE ON A SKATEBOARD, UH, YOU WANT TO WALK YOUR DOG.

IT WAS SAFE.

IT WAS SHADED.

UM, YOU COULD WALK THE WHOLE THREE AND A HALF MILES AND THEN WALK THE WHOLE THREE AND A HALF MILES BACK WHEREVER YOU WANT.

AND WE HAVE ALL THESE TRAILS AND ALL, NOTHING ALONG THE WATERWAY.

I MEAN, IN ALL THE PLANNING THAT'S BEEN DONE, DIDN'T ANYONE THINK THAT WE WERE SURROUNDED BY WATERWAYS, WHERE IS EVEN A ONE MILE WALKWAY, ALONG A RIVER FOR BIKING AND, AND, UM, WALKING.

YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON FORDING ISLAND ROAD.

AND WE HAVE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT GOING ACROSS THE TOYOTA DEALERSHIP THERE WHERE THEY CALL, THEY CALL IT PARK.

AND I KEEP TRYING TO FIND WHAT THE MAP IS.

IT LOOKS KIND OF PATHETIC, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A TREE AND A BENCH IS NOT A PARK.

ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.

WHERE WAS THE NICE

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WALKWAY ALONG OLD, PETITE RIVER THAT A MOM COULD TAKE HER KIDS AND THEY COULD RIDE A BIKE AND BE VERY SAFE AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CROSSING ANYWHERE, BUT BEING SAFE.

SO I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS OUT THERE.

AND ESPECIALLY IN OHIO OF ALL PLACES WHERE THE CONSULTANT COMES FROM, THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS PARK SYSTEMS BRING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT FEEL TO HERE.

THANK YOU.

HE THOUGHT YOU WERE A BAD MOUTH IN OHIO YESTERDAY.

MS. MANNY, THANK YOU.

I WILL JUST REAL QUICK.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT THAT PARK YOU REFERENCED IS ACTUALLY COUNTY CONTROLLED AND ON UNINCORPORATED B FOR COUNTY, IT'S NOT IN THE BLUFF IN BLUFFTON.

SO I MEAN, WE CAN WORK WITH AND GIVE THEM OPINIONS, BUT, AND I'M, I DIDN'T MENTION THIS BECAUSE IT IS IN THAT CHAPTER BECAUSE I READ THAT CHAPTER AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM ON THE WATERSHED.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 2011 REPORT, IT SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO WORK WITH PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

THE 2020 REPORT SAYS, WE GOT TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY WHERE WE'RE MEETING IN A WEEK AND WE GOT PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THIS THING SAYS, WE HAVE TO WORK PARTNERSHIPS.

YOU KNOW WHAT I SAY? I'M A SAFETY PERSON.

THIS IS AN ISSUE.

AND UNTIL YOU GET AT THE ROOT CAUSE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE.

OKAY.

SO SOME SMART PEOPLE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T GET THESE THINGS DONE? BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A BANDAID EVERY TIME.

SO THAT'S MY PHILOSOPHY.

35 YEARS OF SAFETY.

KYLE ON THE HEELS OF, UM, MS. MANNING'S COMMENTS, UH, IT OCCURS TO ME, I WONDER IF WE COULDN'T INCLUDE, UM, AN INVENTORY MAP THAT SHOWS SOME OF THOSE WATER ACCESS POINTS.

I'M SORRY, I'LL SPEAK MORE DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.

UM, AND MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THOSE WATER CONNECTION POINTS THAT ARE TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOING TO FOSKEY PEOPLE GOING TO SAVANNAH, UM, JUST KIND OF GIVE SOME REFERENCES TO WHERE, WHAT ARE TYPICAL ROUTES? UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF LOCAL MEANDERINGS AROUND AS WELL.

THERE'S A SANDBAR, THAT'S A PRETTY HOT SPOT.

AND SO IT MIGHT EVEN SHOW NODES OF ACTIVITY ON OUR WATERWAYS AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED ITEM.

UM, AND, AND I, IT KIND OF ACTUALLY STRADDLES THE LINE BETWEEN THAT AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES IS, AND I, AND I KIND OF TOUCHED UPON THIS YESTERDAY.

LIKE, I REALLY LOVE THE CHARACTER OF OLD TOWN, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE PARKING LOTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO OLD TOWN.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE OLDER AND LESS MOBILE IS, UM, AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PARKING IS THAT YOU CAN'T GET TO THE PLACES THAT YOU WANT TO GET TO.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE ENCOURAGED TO HERE IS POTENTIALLY SOMETHING WHERE IT'S A PARK AND RIDE, UM, OR THE TALENT.

I KNOW WE HAVE THE PETTY SIS, THE PETTY CAB SYSTEM THAT WE AT LEAST ATTEMPTED AT, I DON'T KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL THAT IS, WHY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS SUCCESSFUL OR WASN'T SUCCESSFUL, BUT TAKING AN ANALYSIS OF SEEING IF WE CAN SEE THAT THROUGH A LITTLE BETTER, UM, OR CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG SO THAT WE CAN STILL HAVE THIS VIBRANT DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S NOT COMPLETELY CONSUMED WITH PARKING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S GREAT THOUGHT.

WELL, EVEN KATHLEEN, LIKE, WAS IT YEARS AGO OR, OR DURING FESTIVALS OR THEY HAVE THE LITTLE TROLLEY, IF WE, IF WE HAD SOME OF THAT TO HELP NOW THAT WE'VE GROWN SO MUCH AND THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY AND MORE PLACES TO GO AND LESS PLACES TO PARK.

YEAH.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A SHUTTLE THAT GOES THROUGH LEFT AND RIGHT.

AND WHAT'S THE LITTLE TROLLEY THING TO, WELL, BREEZE HAS, UH, HAS ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CURRENTLY RUNNING OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT RAN FROM BUCK WALTER ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH OLD TOWN, UP TO TANGER AND BACK.

AND EVERY TIME I SAW IT, IT WAS EMPTY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AN ADVERTISING OR PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE NEED TO BE PRIORITIES FOR US TO FIGURE OUT.

RIGHT.

I AGREE.

AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, KATHLEEN, YOU BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER AND IT WAS MENTIONED HERE TOO.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ON THE SAME PAGE AS EVERYONE ELSE WITH GOLF CARTS.

UM, THE GOLF CART RULES IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE SUCH THAT, UM, I COULD NOT TAKE MY GOLF CART OUT OF HAMPTON LAKE AND TAKE IT DOWN TO THE PUBLICS BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE BY MY MEMORY, IT HAS TO BE A ROAD THAT'S 35 MILE AN HOUR OR LESS SPEED LIMIT.

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THAT'S NOT A NUMBERED ROAD.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE VIABLE WAYS OF OUTSIDE OF OLD TOWN, OF GETTING GOLF CARTS AROUND AND RIDING ON THE PATHWAYS IS WHETHER WE WANT TO LET IT HAPPEN OR NOT AS AGAINST STATE LAW.

SO, UM, GOLF CART, TRANSPORTATION, I THINK, HAS TO BE WITHIN ITS OWN MODES UNLESS WE COME UP WITH SOME OTHER WAY.

WELL, AND I MEAN, I THINK, AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT COULD BE A PART, IT COULD BE A PART OF A STUDY BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S A, THERE ARE SOME GOLF CARTS THAT CAN GO 30 MILES AN HOUR.

MY LITTLE ELECTRIC ONE IS NOT GOING 30 MILES AN HOUR.

SO MY LITTLE CART IS PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE ON THE ROAD WAY WITH THE BICYCLE, THOSE CYCLISTS THAT ARE MOVING, BUT SOMEBODY THAT CAN DRIVE 30 MILES AN HOUR MORE CLOSER TO THE SPEED OF THOSE CYCLISTS, MAYBE THEY ARE SHARING THE ROAD WITH THERE AND MAYBE THERE'S SIGNAGE APPROPRIATE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S AN ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND I THINK LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T GET REASONABLY TO THE PARKERS FROM HAMPTON.

LIKE PERHAPS THAT'S WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE A MULTIMODAL PATHWAY OR A PATHWAY SYSTEM THAT ADDRESSES THOSE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING, NOT JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE 30 MILE AN HOUR GOLF CART, BUT ALSO THE SLOW GOLF CART AND THE CYCLIST AND THE KID ON THE BICYCLE.

THERE'S ONE OTHER USE AND THROW INTO THAT CONVERSATION TOO, WHICH IS ELECTRIC, ELECTRIC BIKES, UM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY CAN GO FASTER AS WELL.

UM, I THINK AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, I DON'T SEE THOSE A LOT AROUND HERE, BUT YEAH, WELL A GROUP, IF IT'S OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO JUST SHOW A COUPLE OF MORE EDITS HERE AND THEN IF A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR OTHER TOPIC OF FACILITIES.

LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN HERE.

ONE MORE TIME.

IT'S IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL, UH, NOTES THAT I PULLED OUT, UM, UH, FROM YOUR COMMENTS AND FROM ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDERS, REMEMBER WE'VE GOT THE SECTION OF THE IDEAS IT'S OBJECTIVE.

SO THESE ARE AREAS WHERE I WANT TO WORK WITH, WITH CHARLOTTE, WITH KEVIN, WITH THE STAFF, TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, POINT OF VIEW, UH, ON THE PARTICULAR ISSUE YOU BRING UP THE GOLF CART.

ONE, IT'S ACTUALLY AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE IN, IN THE COMMENTS, I THINK YOUR COMMUNITY IS SPLIT ON THIS ISSUE.

MAYBE THE WAY YOU ALL ARE, UM, IN HOW WE, UH, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THAT PARTICULAR FORM OF, UH, OF MOBILITY.

UM, I THINK YOU SEE SOME, UH, UH, OF EACH OF YOUR COMMENTS REFLECTED THERE FROM THE BROADER, UM, SET.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE ADD INTO THIS.

AND JUST TO HOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T SUGGEST ANY, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE PLAN.

BUT I CERTAINLY WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT THE SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, APPROACH COULD BE TO, UM, TO FACILITATING THAT MOVEMENT.

SO DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDE THAT.

I YOU'LL SEE THAT I'VE ADDED THE WATER ACCESS POINTS AND CONNECTIONS MAP THAT ACTUALLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

THAT SHOULD BE, UH, IN THE SIMPLE CATEGORY.

UM, ONE, ONE PIECE, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION HAS TO DO WITH THE ROADWAY OWNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, WITH LESS THAN 1% OF THESE ROADS BEING MAINTAINED OWNED BY THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO, AND I THINK THAT THE TERM MIGHT BE HERE, I THINK, EDUCATE THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE HEAR, IT'S NOT JUST IN YOUR COMMUNITY, UM, WE HEAR THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHEN WOOD ROADS COME UP, THE IDEA OF CONGESTION WELL, AND THEN THE, UH, THE IDEA IS, WELL, WHAT CAN THE TOWN DO ABOUT THAT? AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE TOWN CAN DO ABOUT IT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO VERY LARGE CAPITAL PROJECT INVESTMENTS THAT MIGHT BE OUTSIDE THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THE TOWNS, UH, A BUDGETING PROCESS.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS A KEY POINT, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH, UH, THE STAFF HERE TO DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT CAME UP, UH, ONE THAT HAD TO DO WITH, WITH RIDESHARE, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT.

UM, ALSO KIND OF COUPLED WITH THAT IS WITH THE WORK FROM HOME, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REVOLUTION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, HOW DOES THAT WEIGH INTO SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE? AND A LOT OF THE DATA, UNFORTUNATELY, IS JUST RIGHT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, COVID HIT.

SO AS WE LOOK TO THIS, I'M GOING TO WORK HARD AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME DATA SETS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT STUDY YOU, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND SEE IF THERE'S BEEN ANY KIND OF MEASURABLE, NOTABLE CHANGE, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT.

AND IF ANY RECOVERY, UH, GOOD OR BAD IS, IS OCCURRING ANOTHER, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE, FOR THE TRANSIT STOPS, I ADDED SOME IDEA OF, OF WALK SHED FOR THOSE STOPS, UH, FIVE MINUTES, 10 MINUTES, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE, UH, SIDEWALK, UH, NETWORK INTO THAT, UH, ANALYSIS.

THINK THAT COULD BE VALUABLE HERE.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT I THINK THAT'S IN THE SUBJECTIVE CATEGORY, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT, DID THE CONCLUSIONS OF THAT MAP, NECESSITATE SOME SPECIFIC ACTION LATER, UH, IN THIS CHAPTER.

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AND THERE YOU'LL SEE QUITE A FEW, I THINK, SIMPLE DIRECTIONS IN THIS, NOT SIMPLE IN THE SENSE THAT THEY'RE SMALL, BUT SIMPLE A SENSE THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROVIDED ME SOME CLEAR DIRECTION.

I THINK ONE KEY ITEM HERE, AND I'LL ONLY POINT OUT A COUPLE HAS TO DO WITH CRASH DATA AND SAFETY, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT AND BACK TO SOME OF MS MANNING'S COMMENTS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE HOTSPOTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY? WHAT CAN WE BE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURES? UH, EXCUSE ME, INTERSECTION SAFETY, UH, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UH, AND ALSO JUST ARE THERE FLAWS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, THE ENGINEERING FOR SOME OF THESE ROADWAYS.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO, UH, TO BOLSTER IN THIS, TO THE POINT, IF THERE ARE ACTIONS THAT BLAKELY INFLUENTIAL IN NATURE, BUT ARE THERE ACTIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE AS A COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THOSE? THE OTHER ITEM IS, AND I THINK THIS DOES GET BACK TO MS. MANNING'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING REGIONALLY, UH, AROUND TRANSPORTATION, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH T 4.1, WHICH REALLY IS, IS THE IDEA THAT YOU CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AND BE, YOU KNOW, A, A LOUD PARTNERS IN THAT DISCUSSION, UH, AS THOSE PROJECTS ARE DEBATED.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME MORE TACTICAL STEPS THAT WE COULD ADD INTO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICES I THINK, FROM AROUND YOUR REGION AND, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU, YOU TAKE THE NEEDS OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST ON THE AGENDA FOR REGIONAL BODIES AS THEY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, FUTURE INVESTMENTS.

SO I WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT ACTION IN PARTICULAR, UH, AND BECOME A LITTLE MORE, UH, A LITTLE MORE SHARP, I THINK, ON WHAT WE CAN BE DOING, NOT TO SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE, I THINK, ESPECIALLY THERE, BUT THINGS THAT YOU CAN BE DOING, UH, TO RAISE THE VOLUME.

THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I POINTED OUT HERE, BUT, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO FACILITIES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, THOUGHTS FROM YOU? ALL? I HAVE ONE QUESTION JUST BEFORE WE DIVE INTO FACILITIES, UM, CHARLIE HAD SENT A DOCUMENT FROM THE TOWN THAT I HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW LAST NIGHT, AND IT TALKS ABOUT OUR RESIDENTIAL, BUILD-OUT BEING 73% AND WE HAVE A, UH, ON PAGE 50 OF THE PLAN, IT TALKS ABOUT HAVING, UM, 44 OR 46% OF THE HOUSING IN PUD IS BUILT TO DATE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? AND CAN WE ALSO INCLUDE WHAT THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL BUILD-OUT FOR BLUFFTON IS IF IT REALLY IS 73%, BECAUSE I THINK THAT GREATLY OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FACILITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED, IF WE'RE ALREADY AT 73%, THAT'S VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN 46.

SO JUST CLARITY ON, I GUESS, WHAT THE NUMBERS REALLY ARE.

AND THEN, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, KYLE, THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM, UH, KEVIN HIGH CARD.

YEAH.

AND IT SHOWED 73 RESIDENTIAL AND 31 COMMERCIAL, UH, 35 35 COMMERCIAL FOR A TOTAL OF 52.

SO IF THAT 40 NUMBER 50 NUMBER IS COMBINING COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FURTHER DEFINE IT.

YEAH.

THAT'S SIMPLE.

I'LL TALK TO KEVIN TOO, ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY TO GET TO THAT PERCENTAGE, BUT THAT'S JUST BASED ON RAW ZONING CAPACITY.

UM, LET, LET ME DIG INTO THAT ONE.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE INTERESTING WHEN YOU START DIGGING INTO THAT.

WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT POWERPOINT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LIKE THERE'S A HOTEL NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT HADN'T BEEN BUILT.

AND SO THEY WOULD TAKE THE COMMERCIAL, UM, PERCENTAGE THE, UH, OR THEIR NON-RESIDENTIAL PERCENTAGE, THE RESIDENTIAL PERCENTAGE COMBINED AND DIVIDE BY THREE, WHICH IS KIND OF A FUNNY NUMBER JUST BECAUSE ONE PARTICULAR USE ISN'T THERE.

SO, AND, AND EVEN HOW THAT IS LOOKED AT FROM AN RESIDENTIAL VERSUS NON-RESIDENTIAL WAS THERE WAS SOME CLASSIFICATION DIFFERENCES.

SO, UM, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE'RE NECESSARILY 52% BUILT OUT AS AN ACCURATE NUMBER, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO, LIKE LYDIA SAID, TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND, AND I APPRECIATE IT BY THE WAY, HAVING THAT INFORMATION WAS HUGE JUST TO BE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL EVEN NON-RESIDENTIAL AND KIND OF THE METRICS THAT WERE LEADING TO THAT WAS WONDERFUL AND WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE I GET ON A MAP TOO, I THINK WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.

YEAH.

YUP.

UH, MATTER OF FACT, IF WE CAN GET THAT TO KYLE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

IT'S SOMETHING I'M ON IT.

SORRY.

OKAY.

SORRY TO BE A PAIN, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

WELL, WHEN WE WERE SHOWN THAT PRESENTATION BACK IN FEBRUARY, I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, I'M AN ENGINEER, THE NUMBERS DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AND I KEPT QUESTIONING AND QUESTIONING QUESTIONING.

AND FINALLY, THE OTHER DAY I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO GET AN ANSWER.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE THE SPREADSHEET.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN EXCEL, BUT I WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS.

THE NUMBERS

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ARE NOT CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO I DID SEND IT TO PLANNING.

SO BEFORE YOU SEND IT OUT, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU CAN'T ADD PERCENTAGES, OKAY.

IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES AND, AND THE, THE RESIDENTIAL NUMBER IS NOT CORRECT.

AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL NUMBERS NOT CORRECT.

AND THEN THE TOTAL IS NOT CORRECT.

SO BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND, AND QUOTE, 52%, IT'S NOT RIGHT.

WELL, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THE RAW DATA IS IN THERE.

THE SPREADSHEET WITH WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR EACH ONE.

SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

YOU GET THAT, I'LL GRAB THAT.

I THINK THE ACREAGE IS, ARE CRITICAL TO ME.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL RESIDENTIAL IS MADE THE SAME EITHER, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN HAVE ONE ACRE THAT LENDS TO 20 NEW RESIDENTS, ONE ACRE, IT LEADS TO ONE.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL UNPACK THAT.

YEAH.

AND I THINK PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF WETLANDS IN THIS AREA, SO THERE'S UPLANDS AND LOWLANDS THAT ARE IMPACTING THOSE NUMBERS GREATLY.

AND SO, YEAH, BUT I, AND I, BUT AGAIN, BACK TO COMMISSIONER DEPAUL MAPPING, IT IS GOING TO BE SO HELPFUL AND, AND, AND IT'S MAPPING CAPACITY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT MAPPING WHERE ACTUALLY PEOPLE WILL GO, IT'S JUST MAPPING WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN GO THERE.

YEAH.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE DISTINCTION FOR SURE.

WELL, WHY DON'T WE MOVE OVER INTO OUR OTHER SUBJECT FOR THIS EVENING? UH, AS I MENTIONED, I'LL FOLLOW UP, UM, WITH, UH, THE GROUP HERE, UM, ON OUR NOTES FOR TODAY, AS WELL AS SOME OF THESE POINTS THAT I'VE PULLED OUT AND, UH, REALLY WANT YOU TO, UM, TO GRADE IN A MIGRANT, UH, ASSESSMENT OF YOUR COMMENTS.

SO IF YOU THINK THERE ARE MAJOR THINGS THAT ARE MISSING THAT, YOU KNOW, COME UP LATER TOMORROW, OR YOU'RE HAVING DINNER OR WHATEVER, IT MIGHT BE, UH, FEEL FREE TO, TO SHARE THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN HERE ONE MORE TIME BEFORE YOU DO THAT.

YEAH, SURE.

UM, SOMEBODY WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE ACTUALLY JUST EMAILED ME REAL QUICK THAT, UH, PALMETTO BREEZE ROUTE IS STILL RUNNING.

IT'S CALLED THE, UM, BREEZE BLUFFTON OR BLUFFTON BREEZE ROUTE.

AND IT DOES RUN EVERYWHERE FROM NORTH BUCK WALTER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TANGER TO MORE SIGNAGE.

I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, BUT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.

CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT US, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BUS STOP EVEN IS WHERE WITH THE STOPS BEING A METH WOULD BE NICE, WELL COUNTRY, FRESH MARKET BUCK, WALTER P WELL, WE CAN GET INTO IT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WILL BE INCLUDE SURE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THAT MAP AND THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S MAKING IT TO THE PUBLIC IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

OKAY.

UH, OUR SECOND CHAPTER THIS EVENING COMMUNITY FACILITIES, UH, HAD A FEW DOZEN, A COUPLE DOZEN COMMENTS IN HERE FROM, FROM THE GROUP AS IT REMEMBERED, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE GENERALLY IN ORDER HERE, UH, WE THINK ABOUT THE COMMENTS OR, OR, UH, FEEDBACK HERE FOR BEGINNING TO THE END OF THE CHAPTER, WHICH YOU REMEMBER EACH CHAPTER ENDS WITH OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR ACTION AGENDA.

I THINK IF THERE'S A TAKEAWAY HERE FROM YOUR ANALYSIS, UH, I MEAN FROM YOUR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND FROM COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDERS, THERE, THERE IS A, THERE IS A NEED TO SERIOUSLY BOLSTER, UH, THIS CHAPTER IN PARTICULAR.

I THINK WE THINK ABOUT THE INVENTORY, NOT JUST OF THE, THE TOWN OWNED SERVICES, MEAN THE THINGS THAT YOU DO AND RESPONSIBLE FOR, BUT ALSO THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, QUALITY OF PLACE, OPPORTUNITY.

UH, WE NEED TO BE BETTER IN THIS CHAPTER ABOUT TELLING THAT FULL STORY, UH, WITH ITEM A, I TALK SPECIFICALLY HERE ABOUT, AGAIN, THE TOWN OWNED SERVICES, THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN WITHIN PUBLIC SERVICES, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PARKS FACILITIES, THEIR MASTER PLANNING WORK, AND, UH, SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ALSO TO DO WITH CIVIC, UH, FACILITIES.

UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT A WELL-INVESTED IN AND IN BEAUTIFUL, UH, MUNICIPAL, UM, UH, CAMPUS.

BUT AS WE LOOKED AROUND SOME OTHER CHAPTERS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS, SOME ASSESSMENT OF, OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT'S THERE TODAY.

SO MY, UH, AGAIN, GA STANDS FOR PLANNED ACTION, UH, IS TO INCORPORATE, UM, THIS SERVICE ANALYSIS WITH ALSO SOME SPECIAL REFERENCE TO THE INDIVIDUAL STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT'S GOING ON FOR THESE DEPARTMENTS.

SO, AND IT'S NOT TO DOUBLE COVER OR TO QUESTION, BUT IT'S RATHER IT'S TO LIFT UP EACH OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING AND HOW THAT RELATES TO THIS BROADER QUESTION ABOUT CAPACITY AND GROWTH, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO COUPLE, I THINK THAT ANALYSIS WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PEOPLE SECTION AROUND POPULATION, PROJECTIONS

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LOCATIONS, PART WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, DESCRIBED, RIGHT.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, POTENTIAL BUILD-OUT OR CAPACITY ASSESSMENTS.

HOW DOES THAT OVERLAY WITH, YOU KNOW, POLICE SERVICE CATCHMENT AREAS? HOW DOES THAT OVERLAY WITH CURRENT FACILITIES? AND I'M JUST REFERRING HERE TO THE TOWN OWNED, YOU KNOW, PORTION OF THAT QUESTION, ANOTHER MAJOR, UM, UH, I'LL CONCEDE BLIND SPOT WITHIN THIS, AND MS. MANNING HAS POINTED THIS OUT AND I'LL COVER AGAIN, IS THE NEED TO, TO, UH, TO BETTER INVENTORY AND CONNECT ANALYSIS AROUND SERVICE PROVIDERS TO THE TOWN.

SO, UH, CRITICAL ONES WITHIN THOSE, UH, THAT ARE OBVIOUS, UH, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, JASPER WA BUFORD, JASPER WATER AND SEWER WASTE MANAGEMENT, HOSPITALS, AND MEDICAL ENERGY PROVIDERS, INTERNET BUFORD COUNTY LIBRARY, AND POTENTIALLY SOME THAT, THAT I'M MISSING.

AND I BELIEVE THE ACTION THERE IS AS STATED, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITHIN THIS CHAPTER IN ITS NEXT VERSION, UH, UH, FOR YOU ALL IS HAVE THAT COMPLETE INVENTORY ALSO, INCLUDING IN THIS, IF THERE ARE STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, PRIORITIES FOR ANY OF THESE, UH, GROUPS THAT OVERLAP, I THINK WITH THE WORK THAT WE COULD BE DOING OR LIFTING UP, I THINK WITHIN TOWN ACTION, EVEN THOUGH THE TOWN IS NOT INDIVIDUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ITEMS, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE CRITICALLY STATED WITHIN THIS.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WILL POINT OUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE CAROL'S COMMENTS FROM, FROM YESTERDAY.

AND I'M GLAD THAT CAROL YOU'RE ALSO HERE TODAY.

I THINK THAT WE'VE NOT DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF, OF TALKING ABOUT THE PRESSURE SPECIFICALLY ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UM, YOU KNOW, BEING A COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, THAT COMES WITH SOME UNIQUE, UH, UNIQUE CHALLENGES, UM, AS YOU STRADDLE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KIND OF POINTS IN TIME STORIES TO TELL, RIGHT? AND I THINK THE LANGUAGE AND THIS COULD BETTER REFLECT, UH, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UM, YESTERDAY.

UH, AND THIS INCLUDES, I THINK, STRONGER REFERENCE, AS I MENTIONED TOO, THAT THE GROUPS, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, BUT ALSO SOME SPECIFIC ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE WITHIN YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC PROFILE, HOW THAT MIGHT BE CHANGING.

I THINK THERE'S A STRONG CONNECTION HERE ALSO TO THE DISCUSSION YESTERDAY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE ABOUT WHO IS COMING HERE, MEANING WHAT'S THE MAKEUP OF SOME OF THESE NEW RESIDENTS.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION THERE FOR OUR SCHOOL FACILITIES AND, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST WITHIN THIS SECTION, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, PRIVATE SCHOOLING, PAROCHIAL SCHOOLING THAT IS AVAILABLE IN BLUFFTON, HOW DOES THAT IN A RELATE, I THINK TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, UH, WE HAVE A SMALL WRITE-UP ON THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, I'LL CAN SEE THAT NEEDS TO EXPAND.

SO WITH ITEM C, THAT IS, THAT IS MY PLAN IS TO FULLY INTEGRATE THAT ALONG WITH THE OTHER CHAPTERS AND WHERE IT'S RELEVANT.

LET ME STOP THERE AND GET SOME REACTIONS FROM, FROM YOU ALL, WHETHER IT'S THIS ITEM WHERE IT'S JUST CHAPTER IN GENERAL.

UM, I WOULD SAY ALSO ON ITEM B, I WANT TO INCORPORATE, I APPRECIATE YOU'VE GOT THE PARKS AND RECREATION OR PARKS AND FACILITIES UNDER A, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE LOOKING AT FROM A NOT TOWN PROVIDED COUNTY PARKS AND POTENTIALLY EVEN LOOKING AT, UM, WITH AN ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT THE WHAT'S PRIVATELY PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, THERE'S POSSIBLY SOME GAP ANALYSIS TO BE ACTUALLY PURSUED IN TERMS OF THAT.

CAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES HAVE AMENDED AREAS THAT CHECK A BOX, UM, WHILE SOME HAVE EXCEPTIONAL AMENITIES, THAT'S WELL-SERVED THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DRILL DOWN INTO THAT FULLY INTO, IN THIS PLAN, BUT I THINK JUST TAKING A THAT'S PART OF THE PICTURE OF THAT'S PART OF THE PICTURE, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRIVATE SCHOOLS, UM, ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, THE LOAD THAT, THAT, UH, IS ASSUMING IN OUR, IN THE PICTURE OF OUR BEAVER COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UM, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TO THE SIMPLE YET, BUT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT AND, AND YOU AN ITEM C YOU SAID EXPAND STORMWATER ANALYSIS AND LOOKING AT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND RUNOFF.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO POINT OUT LOOKING AT WATERSHED.

UM, I WAS LOOKING AT, I THINK IT WAS THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED WEBSITE AND IT SHOWS WHERE THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED IS.

AND I WAS LIKE, LOOK AT THAT.

HOW HELPFUL IS THAT? UM, SO JUST, AND, AND NOTING THEN ALSO THAT A GOOD PORTION OF PALMETTO BLUFF DOES NOT CHANGE A DRAIN TO THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED, BUT THE PARTS THAT ARE HEAVILY DEVELOPED CURRENTLY DO THE PARTS THAT ARE PROJECTED ARE ACTUALLY BY AND LARGE GOING TO THE NEW RIVER, NEW RIVERSIDE, WHICH IS NOT ALSO WASN'T LABELED CLEARLY ON THE PLAN I WAS LOOKING AT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT WASN'T DRAINING THERE, SO THEY WEREN'T WORRIED ABOUT IT.

BUT I WAS, UM, MR. DUNCAN, I LIKED THAT POINT ABOUT THE WATERSHED.

I WONDER, UM, YOU KNOW, W WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THIS CHAPTER, UH,

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AROUND THE CAROUSEL HERE, BUT WITH NATURAL RESOURCES AND RESILIENCY, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF REFERENCES IN THERE TO WATERSHED, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT TO DRAW THE CONNECTION HERE, ESPECIALLY AS WE TALK ABOUT STORM WATER, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND, AND THE, UH, RELATIONSHIP THOSE HAVE TO WATER QUALITY TOO.

SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THOSE THINGS CAN LIVE IN TWO PLACES, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE APPROACH THAT HERE IN THIS CHAPTER.

AND YOU WERE, AND I THINK THIS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS WITH THIS IMPERVIOUS RUNOFF.

AND THEN I THINK THIS WAS IN MAYBE HE'D NATURAL RESOURCES.

I CAN'T REMEMBER FOR SURE.

BUT THERE, OR MAYBE IT WAS RESILIENCE, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, KIND OF HOW WE ADDRESS OUR WATER IN THAT HAVING IN OUR, IN OUR STORM WATER PLAN, THEY'RE WANTING MORE LIKE INFILTRATION BASINS.

UM, YEAH.

SO IN COLLECTION POINTS AND SO STARTING TO LOOK AT WHERE IS OUR WATER COLLECTING ALL OF OLD TOWN? WHERE DOES THAT GO BEFORE WE SEND IT INTO THE MAY RIVER? OR DID WE JUST SHOOT IT STRAIGHT INTO THE MAY RIVER? UM, SO STARTING TO TAKE AN ANALYSIS OF WHERE ARE WE COLLECTING, WHERE ARE WE INFILTRATING AS A PART OF THAT PICTURE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS CERTAINLY A COMMUNITY FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, CATEGORY CATEGORY, WHICH I THINK IS HUGE, UM, NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AND SIMPLE ANALYSIS AND IT CAN BE SHARED REAL QUICKLY.

I DON'T MEAN TO SAY, I THINK AS WE LEAD INTO THIS DISCUSSION HERE, THAT THERE, THERE ARE NO ELEMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER THAT YOU ALL, AS A COMMUNITY CONTROL, I THINK YOU BRING UP ONE, THAT'S QUITE CRITICAL HERE.

WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.

UH, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF A SYSTEM, WE THINK ABOUT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, AS WELL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS I THINK YOU CAN BE DOING FROM THE OUTSIDE OR THE INSIDE OUT, UH, THAT HAVE A, A PRETTY, UH, WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THEM OVER TIME, UH, THEY HAVE A PRETTY PROFOUND EFFECT.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S AN AREA TO, UH, AS WE, AS WE REVIEW THIS AGAIN, IF THERE'S CONNECTIONS THAT CAN BE MADE TO OTHER CHAPTERS OR IF WE JUST HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE WITHIN THIS, THIS ONE.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD WITH, YOU'VE GOT THE SEWER LINES SHOWING, BUT WHERE DO WE HAVE TREATMENT CENTERS? UM, THERE, I KNOW DOMINION JUST SENT AN EMAIL OUT YESTERDAY SAYING THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NOTHING SHOWING THERE'S NO MAPS SHOWING WHAT WHO'S PROVIDING, WHAT ELECTRIC AND MAYBE DOMINION DOES ALL OF BLUFFTON.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.

I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE PUTTING A NEW, WORKING ON A NEW POWER STATION IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, I THINK IS WHAT THEY SAID IN THE EMAIL.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO A RELEVANT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FACILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND HOW THEY'RE CHANGING.

AND I THINK EVEN JUST FROM AN AS THE COMMUNITY IS GOING THROUGH THIS FOR THEIR OWN EDIFICATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OR EXPECTED TO HAPPEN.

YEAH.

THAT'S A GOOD WORD TO APPLY TO THIS.

I THINK YOU EDIFICATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAPPING BOUNDARIES IN A CHAPTER LIKE THIS, RIGHT? WE HAVE, YOU BROUGHT UP WATERSHEDS, WHICH ARE GIVEN US TO US BY GOD.

THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE ENERGY, UH, SECTOR SIDE, THERE'S A TELECOMS. UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALSO INCLUDING SOME OF THE, UM, UH, THE, THE SERVICES PROVIDED, WHETHER IT'S FIRE POLICING, THERE'S A LOT OF BOUNDARIES.

I THINK IN A DISCUSSION LIKE THIS, ONE OF THE ITEMS I THOUGHT MIGHT BE ACTUALLY HELPFUL IN THIS CHAPTER, AS I'M READING THROUGH IT, AGAIN IS KIND OF FRESH EYES IS, YOU KNOW, A TABLE, REALLY A TABLE THAT JUST IDENTIFIES, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE TOWN DOES AND WHAT, WHO, AND THE SERVICE THE TOWN HAS PROVIDED.

UH, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ACTUALLY WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING, YOU KNOW, UH, TELL SOME OF THE STORY.

YEAH.

AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK THERE'S A WATER TOWER THAT'S GOING IN BY THAT FIVE B UM, AND LIKE TO SEE THAT ON THE WATER.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE NEW WATER MAIN AND WATER TOWER WAS ON MY NOTES TO LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY, NOW I'M DONE GREAT MINDS.

RIGHT? UM, THE EDUCATION COMPONENT, I THINK WE'VE HEARD BOTH IN THE PLAN FROM KIND OF SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, AND THEN ALSO FROM PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE PRESENTLY TO CONTINUE DEVELOPMENT AT THE PACE THAT WE ARE.

SO I THINK SOME PART OF THIS NEEDS TO FOCUS ON EDUCATION FOR THE PUBLIC ON HOW THAT'S DETERMINED AND PUT THOSE NUMBERS IN CONTEXT, AS THEY'RE GETTING REVIEWED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE PART OF OUR UTO REVISIONS TO BE HAVING A MORE PUBLIC FACING DIALOGUE WITH EACH PROJECT IS THAT'S GETTING REVIEWED AND APPROVED.

UM, I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNKNOWN ABOUT THAT IN GENERAL, FOR MYSELF INCLUDED.

UM, SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS THAT WE CAN BASED ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE CAPACITY FOR.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN CONTEXT, MOVING FORWARD, COMMISSIONER REBECCA, ASK A QUICK FOLLOW-UP ON THAT QUESTION.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING POINT YOU'RE MAKING, SO I GET BACK, YOU REPEAT THAT BACK.

IT'S, IT'S SOME EDUCATION WITH THAT.

THE DOCUMENT HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PROCESS BY WHICH

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DEVELOPMENT IS EVALUATED FOR ITS IMPACT SPECIFICALLY TO DO, UH, WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SOME ASSESSMENT OF, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE, ARE THERE AREAS WHERE WE COULD BOLSTER OR IMPROVE? IS THAT PART OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M SORRY.

THINKING MORE THROUGH LIKE UTILITIES, UM, IN TERMS OF ELECTRICITY AND, UH, SEWER AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WE'RE EXCEEDING CAPACITY SOON, OR IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY.

SO, AND I KNOW THAT IS REVIEWED EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HELP FOR EVERYONE TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE BASELINE IS PRESENTLY, WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, UM, CAPACITIES FROM WHATEVER STANDARDS THOSE COME FROM AND KIND OF HOW ARE WE TRACKING THAT? UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, WE ARE, AS THE TOWN ARE RELYING ON THE POWER PROVIDERS TO GIVE US THAT ANALYSIS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HELP IF ALL OF OUR BOARDS, INCLUDING MYSELF, COULD BE EDUCATED ON HOW THAT'S DETERMINED.

AND IF WE CAN ALSO BE SHARING THAT WITH THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT THE REVIEW PROCESS, UM, TO KIND OF ENSURE THAT WE'RE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY, THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, AND THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF CAPACITY, AND WHAT'S BEING PLANNED TO INCREASE THAT CAPACITY AND KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

OH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

I THINK THAT WORD CAPACITY COULD BE APPLIED TO EVERY ONE OF THESE POINTS OF ANALYSIS OR TOPICS.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT, UH, I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE TOPICS I WANT TO WORK TO FIND THE DATA TO SUPPORT EACH OF THOSE STATEMENTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DATA NEEDS TO BE IN THE PLAN, BUT I THINK MAYBE ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES COULD BE TO GATHER THAT DATA AND CREATE, UM, SOME OUTREACH, WHETHER IT'S IN WRITING AT TOWN HALLS OR WHATEVER, TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND AS YOU ALLUDED TO, I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES HAVE, ARE A MASTER PLAN.

THEY HAVE AN ANALYSIS.

AND SO IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE THE REFERENCE TO THAT, I KNOW THE SCHOOLS ARE, YOU KNOW, NEARLY AT 90% CAPACITY AND GENERALLY SPEAKING IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE WELL OVER OUR CAPACITY, THE WAY THAT MASTER PLAN IS WRITTEN.

AND I THINK THAT, AND THEY'RE THERE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO ACQUIRE LAND THAT'S ONE BENCHMARK OF ONE TYPE OF THING, BUT I THINK THEY ALL HAVE THESE GENERAL OVERARCHING THINGS THAT COULD BE GIVEN, GIVING US BENCHMARKS AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH, UM, PLANS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING.

HOW, HOW, HOW DOES THIS FIT IN WITH THE MODEL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER HERE WITH POWER OR WITH SEWER SCHOOLS? YEAH, NO DOUBT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? I'VE GOT MY LIST READY, SO, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, ME, I'M A LIST PERSON, SOME, SOME OF THE STUFF, SOME OF THE STUFF I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE, I SEE THE REFERENCE AND BE TO A FIRE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

I DON'T SEE A REFERENCE TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

UM, WHICH SHOULD BE AN A, IN THE EXPANSION OF INVENTORY.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY FACILITY, A FIRE DEPARTMENT BEING ONE, THEN A PLACE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE ONE.

UM, I DON'T SEE.

AND I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T MEAN TO, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT ITEM A, UH, EXPAND INVENTORY ANALYSIS, UH, TOWN ON SERVICES.

WE DO INCLUDE POLICING, UH, IN THAT SECOND.

SO POLITICS AND I MISSED IT.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I HEARD, I HEARD MENTION OF IT, AND THERE IS SOMEWHAT OF A MENTION, BUT INCLUDE, UH, COUNTY PARKS AND COUNTY, UH, RECREATION AS WELL AS THE LOCAL TOWN.

UM, DON'T SEE THE OYSTER FACTORY ANYWHERE.

UM, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE OYSTER FACTORY PARK, BUT THE OYSTER FACTORY IS ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO, UM, THE LAST REMAINING OYSTER SHUCKING OPERATION IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

UM, THE, I KNOW I'M BOUNCING AROUND A LITTLE BIT, THE, THE MAY RIVER ITSELF, WHILE WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT IN NATURAL RESOURCES.

THE MAY RIVER IS ALSO A COMMUNITY FACILITY, UM, GO OUT THERE ON ANY SUNDAY, SATURDAY OR SUNDAY TO THE SANDBAR.

AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S A COMMUNITY FACILITY BEING USED, JUST LIKE ANY PARK, UM, THE, UM, VILLAGE NEW RIVERSIDE OUT, UM, AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT 46 AND ONE 70 ACROSS THE STREET IS THE NEW TOWN PARK WITH THE BARN AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO ON THERE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A FACILITY WHEN YOU EXPAND.

I'D LOVE TO, I KNOW WE'D ALL LOVE TO SEE IN THERE.

UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING, UH, IT'S A REAL NICE WRITE UP ABOUT THE LIBRARY AND IT HAS TWO FRONT PORCHES AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SOMETHING YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW.

UM, THERE HAS BEEN A SITE IDENTIFIED FOR A SECOND LIBRARY IN BLUFFTON, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY OUT AT THE VILLAGE AT NEW RIVERSIDE.

SO THAT'D BE NICE TO SEE

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SEEING AS THIS IS A 10 YEAR GUIDING DOCUMENT, UM, KIND OF POINT US TOWARDS THAT SECOND LIBRARY TOO.

SO THERE'S THE NEED FOR IT.

YUP.

YUP.

AND THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS I NOTICED.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

ONE MORE THING TO BRING UP ON SCHOOLS, WHICH I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, BUT I HAD A CHANCE TO SCAN THROUGH THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN LAST NIGHT.

AND THE PLAN TALKS ABOUT HAVING, UM, THAT WILL REACH A HUNDRED PERCENT CAPACITY FOR HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED NOT JUST NEW SCHOOLS WHERE WE HAVE THE LAND, BUT THEY ACTUALLY NEED ANOTHER PARCEL.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE TOWN IS ABLE TO DO IN TERMS OF KEEPING THAT TOP OF MIND, SIMILAR TO HOW I THINK IN THE ECONOMIC SECTION, WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN INVENTORY OF PLACES FOR FUTURE BUSINESS, IS THERE A WAY FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF PLACES THAT COULD WORK FOR THE SCHOOL OR SOMEHOW COORDINATE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HELP FACILITATE ACQUIRING WHATEVER THE NEXT PARCEL IS THAT THEY NEED? SURE.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WORKING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HELP IDENTIFY PARCELS AND HELP THEM ACQUIRE THEM AS THEY NEED.

WE DON'T WANT TO STEP ON TOP OF THEM, BUT YES, MA'AM, YOU CAN COME ON UP WHENEVER YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN.

CAUSE, YOU KNOW, RAISE YOUR HAND FOR YELL AT ME.

UM, I WILL SAY SOME OF THAT HAS SORT OF ALREADY HAPPENED.

UM, KEVIN HAS, HAS SORT OF REACHED OUT TO US WHEN HE BECOMES AWARE OF SOMETHING.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS PAN OUT, BUT WE HAVE APPRECIATED THAT PARTNERSHIP.

WE DO HAVE WITH COUNTY PLANNING STAFF AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, OBVIOUSLY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, WE WANT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, QUIET.

SO NO ONE KNOWS SORT OF WHAT WE'RE NOT TO DRIVE AT THE PRICE.

IS THAT A SPECIFIC ACTIVITY THAT HAS HAD HAPPENS TO KEVIN TALKS TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING? IS THERE A PROCESS OR IS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, KEVIN BUILDING AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO FORMAL PROCESS IN PLACE.

UM, IT'S JUST A BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH STAFF OVER THE YEARS, SO YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT MAY BE SOME KIND OF WORDING YOU MIGHT TO WANT TO INCORPORATE IF YOU TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH PEOPLE, BUT IT IS REALLY BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE.

YEAH.

I LIKE THAT PHRASING.

SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA POINT OUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT.

SO ON PAGE ONE 60, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE USING DATA THAT IS CURRENT, UM, TO PROVIDE A, UH, AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR ENROLLMENT AND THE CAPACITY OF OUR SCHOOLS.

SO YOU ALL HAVE BOTH, SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

IT IS THE MOST CURRENT DOCUMENT.

I BROUGHT IT JANUARY, 2022 BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE NUMBERS THAT WERE USED ON THAT PAGE ARE NOT QUITE CORRECT.

AND THEY ARE FROM 2020.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, 2020 WAS COVID YEAR AND COVID YEAR FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN ENROLLMENT.

SO WE KNEW THAT ANY PROJECTIONS THAT WERE DONE BASED OFF THAT YEAR WERE JUST GOING TO BE A SKEWED PROJECTION.

AND, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, WE'VE GOT, UM, MORE INFORMATION THAT KIND OF, WE WERE AWARE OF THIS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, ON PAGE 1 34, IN THAT PLAN, YOU'LL FIND A GRAPH THAT SHOWS THREE YEARS OF PROJECTIONS THAT CAPACITY AND NEEDED CAPACITY.

SO THERE'S, WE'RE AT CAPACITY AND THERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO REALLY DO THE PROGRAMS AND THE EDUCATIONAL PIECES THAT WE WANT IN OUR SCHOOLS.

AND WE, WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN PLANNING, IN TERMS OF 85% OF TOTAL CAPACITY, THEY DON'T WANT TO FILL UP EVERY CLASSROOM.

WE WANT TEACHERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE BE FLEXIBLE IN THEIR SPACES.

AND WE HAVE THAT LUXURY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY HERE WHERE WE'RE GROWING FAST, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY.

SO THAT'S THE LINE THAT YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS NEEDED CAPACITY.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT WE'VE CROSSED OVER THAT NEEDED CAPACITY LINE ALREADY IN BLUFFTON.

UM, SO I DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

UM, AS FAR AS IF THERE'S WAYS TO INCORPORATE THAT IN YOUR PLAN, I DON'T KNOW.

IT MAY BE, IT'S JUST MAKING REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS DOCUMENT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND KEEP IN MIND.

UM, BECAUSE WE, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE IN TERMS OF STUDENT CAPACITY PROJECT, STARTING ON PAGE 1 53 OF THIS DOCUMENT.

WE TALK ABOUT MOBILES.

THAT'S OUR SHORT-TERM PLAN.

CERTAINLY NOT A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR STUDENTS TO BE IN MOBILES.

UM, WE TALK ABOUT EARLY LEARNING CLASSROOMS, PRE-K EDUCATION.

IF WE WERE TO EXPAND PRE-K TO SERVE ALL THE STUDENTS,

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UM, WE WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS WE HAVE.

NOW.

WE CAN'T DO THAT IN THE BLUFFTON AREA.

UM, WE TALK ABOUT A NEED FOR A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE HAVE LAND FOR THAT ON THE MAY RIVER HIGH CAMPUS.

WE HAVE, UM, ALSO LAND FOR A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AT THE MAY RIVER HIGH CAMPUS.

WE TALK ABOUT A NEED FOR A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

WE DO NOT HAVE LAND FOR A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL.

WE WERE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED ACRES.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL PARCELS, WE WOULD LOVE TO ALWAYS BE IN ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT.

AND, UM, AGAIN, LAND LAND IS JUST IT'S MY TOP PRIORITY SOMETIMES.

UM, NOW ALSO, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD ANY OF THESE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL.

SO YEAH.

CAN I ASK A REALLY QUICK QUESTION, CAROL, I'M STARTING TO REP YOU CAN IN TERMS OF LAND AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE A HUNDRED ACRES WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL, UM, ARE THERE, IS THERE A CARDINAL DIRECTION THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE TOWN WHERE YOU WOULD IDEALLY PLACE THAT, UH, THAT INVESTMENT SOUTH EAST WITH YOU OFFLINE? BECAUSE CAROLINE, YOU CAN, I THINK, SORRY TO, I THINK BACK TO A RIVER BRIDGE AND WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD TO COBBLE TOGETHER THAT PROPERTY AND WE'RE TALKING TO A HALF A DOZEN OR SO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND YOU COULDN'T LET THEM KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO PUT A SCHOOL THERE OR THE PROPERTY VALUE WOULD GET, I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY MORE BLUFFTON MIDDLE.

THAT ONE WAS REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF PARCELS.

YES.

YEAH.

BUT CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY KYLE.

YES, YES, I WILL.

I WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

YOU CAN REACH OUT TO CHARLOTTE, SHE'S GOT MY INFO AND WE CAN DO THAT, BUT AGAIN, A SERIES OF WAYS TO THINK ABOUT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YEAH.

OH, WE KIND OF, I KIND OF TOUCHED ABOUT LAST NIGHT ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT TOUCH ON, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.

AND THOSE ARE IN, IN TERMS OF FACILITY MODERNIZATION PROJECTS.

UM, AGAIN, MOST OF OUR SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON ARE NEWER SO THAT THEY DON'T REALLY FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT ON YOUR MAP IN THAT SECTION IS THAT YOU EXCLUDED OCA T ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND WHILE TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THAT SCHOOL ARE WITHIN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE ONE OUTLIER.

I WOULDN'T EXCLUDE IT.

I WOULD PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE YOUR RESIDENTS ARE IMPACTED BY THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY A QUESTION.

I JUST, MY EDUCATION, THE A HUNDRED ACRES, UH, FOR THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL IS THAT WITHIN THE TENURE TIMEFRAME, YOU THINK THAT WORK WHERE IT IS.

YES.

IT WILL BE IN A PART OF OUR PLANNING AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE IT'S, WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT NEED.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE PURSUING.

AND HOW DOES THE LAND GET IDENTIFIED? IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR GROUP DOES OR, UH, RIGHT NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, UH, LAND CONSULTANT, EDUCATIONAL LAND CONSULTANT WORKING ON IDENTIFYING A PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COULD BE WORKING WITH YOU ON FOR THIS ACTION PLAN OF THOSE OFFLINE CONVERSATIONS WITH TOWN PLANNING, STAFF, TO TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL THINGS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN TERMS OF YOUR PLAN AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THESE ARE NEEDS, AND CERTAINLY IF YOU ALL PUT IT IN YOUR PLAN, THEN THAT GUIDE STAFF AS WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THINGS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DOING AGAIN, IT'S FOR US, IT'S BEEN RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND, BUT PEOPLE COME AND GO, SO IT COULD CHANGE.

IF IT'S IN YOUR DOCUMENT, THEN IT'S, IT'S THERE FOR, HEY, THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR US.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING, OKAY, THE RELATIONSHIPS ARE IMPORTANT AND IT WORKS WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU LEAVE OR KEVIN LEAVES OR SOMETHING, THEN HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE WORKING ON IDENTIFYING WHERE THAT A HUNDRED ACRES IS GOING TO BE NOT GOING ANYWHERE? I JUST WANT TO SAY, I READ THAT I WAS LOOKED THROUGH THAT SCHOOL MASTER PLAN, UM, OR FACILITIES, MASS MASTER PLAN LAST NIGHT, ONE OF THE MOST HELPFUL THINGS IN THERE TO ME.

AND I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, SO THAT IN CASE FUTURE PLANS COME OUT, YOU CAN JUST SAY, HEY, THEY REALLY LIKED THIS OVER AT THE TOWN PER I DO.

UM, THE MAP WHERE YOU SHOW WHERE EACH OF THE SCHOOLS ARE AND WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE LOCATED, THAT ARE GOING TO THAT SCHOOL.

IT WAS SO HELPFUL.

IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS VERY EYEOPENING.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I KNOW IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU DIDN'T MAKE THAT MAP, BUT OH, I DID MAKE, DID YOU MAKE THAT MAP?

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I MAKE THAT WHOLE BOOK.

YES.

THANK YOU.

IT'S SUCH A GEM TO HAVE IN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S NICE TO HAVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK.

SOMEBODY READ IT.

I KNOW THIS BOOK, WE DID PROVIDE THE TOWN A COPY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO, I MEAN, YOU CAN GET IT OBVIOUSLY AVAILABLE IN LINE.

UM, BUT OUR BOARD HAS, HAS RECOMMENDED THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND GET A COPY.

SO SOMEONE AT THE TOWN HAS IT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IS THAT? GENERALLY COME OUT? UM, JANUARY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

CAUSE WE, WE BASE ALL THE INFORMATION OFF OUR 45 DAY DATA, WHICH USUALLY FALLS LATE OCTOBER.

AND BY THE TIME YOU PROCESS ALL THAT INFORMATION AND RUN YOUR PROJECTIONS AND CREATE ALL THE MAPS AND DO ALL THAT STUFF IS JANUARY BEFORE WE CAN IT.

YEAH.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO SPRINKLE IN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, LIKE CONVERSATIONS LIKE A FIVE MINUTE UPDATE FROM LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RUNNING THROUGH THERE'S MASTER PLAN UPDATES THAT THEY HAVE WHEN IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME TALK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

YES.

AND ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ASK US ABOUT? YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S JUST LIKE, EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION, THE SCHOOLS, THE POWER COMPANY, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, LIKE WHEN I KEEP FINDING THINGS, I'M LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

SO THIS IS BEEN VERY ILLUMINATING FOR PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, KARA.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR, FOR YOUR SCHEDULED CARE EITHER, BUT I THINK AS WE DISCUSS SOME OF THESE OTHER CHAPTERS, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SUCH A HEALTHY OVERLAP BETWEEN WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.

AND SOME OF THIS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER TOPICS AS WELL.

SO I HOPE YOU'D BE WELL INVITED TO THE OTHER MEETINGS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS IN THAT AREA? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

CONTINUE ON.

ARE THERE THOUGHTS? I WOULD SAY YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.

CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU HEAR US? I I'M SORRY.

I WAS HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE.

WHAT WAS THAT? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN'T YET.

I WAS SAYING YOU COULD GO AHEAD.

NO, THERE WEREN'T ANY FURTHER COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.

I JUST HAD A ONE FINAL RUNDOWN.

I THINK WITHIN THIS CHAPTERS, YOU CAN TELL, UH, THROUGH MY ASSESSMENT OF, UM, OF YOUR COMMENTS, WE HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT HERE AND THAT'S GOOD.

I THINK WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND TO HAVE THE COVERAGE THAT IS APPROPRIATE, BUT SOME FINAL, UH, NOTES FROM, FROM THIS, UH, SECTION IN PARTICULAR.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, HEAR ME SAY THIS AS RELATED TO THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION AS WELL.

WE TALK ABOUT SUBJECTIVE.

THIS IS AN AREA WHERE I WANT TO WORK WITH CHARLOTTE, WITH KEVIN, I THINK WITH STAFF, UH, WHERE WE START TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THE TOWN WANT TO DESCRIBE ACTION? UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE NECESSARY, THE CARROT BRINGS UP A NUMBER OF KEY POINTS HERE.

WE THINK ABOUT THE A HUNDRED ACRES, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO, UM, WE NEED TO FIND RIGHT, OR FOR THAT PARTICULAR INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT WITH THE PLAN? I THINK WHERE I'M LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION FROM, FROM STAFF IS THE RIGHT VERB, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TRY TO ATTACH TO THAT, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FACILITATE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT GIFT, BUT YOU KNOW, ON A DAY.

AND LIKE WE HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO DESCRIBE HOW WE'RE GOING TO ASSIST SOME OF OUR, UM, UH, OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS IN, IN DOING THEIR MISSION AND DOING IT WELL AND EXPANDING IT, UH, HERE, UH, IN THE TOWN, SOME SIMPLE PIECES, AGAIN, SIMPLE, NOT MEANING, SMALL, SIMPLE, JUST BEING, I THINK I'VE GOT THE, THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UH, THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAINLY A NEED WITHIN THIS.

AS I REVIEW IT TO EXPAND ON OUR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT STORM WATER IS, WHAT IT MEANS AND, AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, UH, IN THE TOWN.

AND I THINK ALONG WITH THAT, UM, MAYBE NOT IN PRESCRIBING SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT IN TALKING THROUGH SOME OF, UH, THE, UH, THE CUTTING EDGE APPROACHES TO MANAGING THAT, WHETHER IT'S ABOUT IMPERVIOUS SURFACES MISMATCH, I THINK YOU MADE A POINT ABOUT THIS, MAYBE ON OUR MEETING ON THE 13TH, BUT WHETHER IT'S ABOUT, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, WHETHER IT HAS TO DO WITH GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK THERE'S JUST A BETTER STORY.

YOU CAN TELL A MORE ROBUST STORY ABOUT STORM WATER, ITS RELATIONSHIP, TO SOME OF YOUR JEWELS.

I MEAN, MAY RIVER BEING, BEING CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE AS YOU RIGHTLY POINT OUT COMMISSIONER, A PIECE OF A COMMUNITY FACILITY.

UH, AND LASTLY, ONE THING I WANT TO DO TO CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT IN THIS CHAPTER, I TALKED ABOUT THE TABLE THAT INTRODUCES WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU DON'T DO.

UH, UH, BUT ALSO I THINK WHAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT HERE IS TO INCLUDE A PARDON, THE PUN, BUT A, A PIPELINE ASSESSMENT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, MEANING THINGS THAT ARE UNDERWAY.

YOU'VE GOT SUCH A GREAT WEBSITE.

UM, YOUR,

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YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DEPARTMENTS DID A GREAT JOB OF, UH, YOU KNOW, TELLING THE STORY OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I THINK THAT'S JUST WITHIN THE TOWN AND WITHIN WHAT YOU'VE BUDGETED, THERE WAS A BROADER, I THINK, STORY AROUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, ESPECIALLY AS DUE TO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I THINK WE COULD TELL WITHIN THIS SECTION, REALLY JUST TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUT THERE ON THE HORIZON TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, SOME THAT MAY BE VISIONARY.

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DESCRIBE WHAT WE WOULD CALL VISIONARY WORK, MEANING A PROJECT THAT HAS NOT MET ITS DOLLAR YET.

UM, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS I THINK WOULD HELP TO, TO, TO AUGMENT THE SECTION AND TELL A MUCH RICHER STORY THAT LEADS TO A SET OF ACTIONS, UH, THAT WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO, UH, CONTINUE TO TAILOR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

GO AHEAD AGAIN.

UM, KYLE, THE FINAL DOCUMENT, I WILL YOU BE HYPERLINKING TO SOME OF THE OUTSIDE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE, OR TO THE OUTSIDE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE LISTED WITHIN THIS? ABSOLUTELY.

ESPECIALLY WITH HOW PLANS ARE READ THESE DAYS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A PDF FORM.

UM, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE THEM SUPER INTERACTIVE, UM, MEANING THAT IF WE'RE REFERENCING, FOR INSTANCE, CAROL'S MASTER PLAN, I THINK WITH HER PERMISSION, WE WOULD LINK DIRECTLY TO THAT WITHIN THE COPY, SAME DEAL WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF.

I THINK HAVING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ABILITY TO JUMP BETWEEN SECTIONS, IF THERE'S A RELATED ITEM, UM, I'VE DONE THAT IN SEVERAL PLANS RECENTLY AND, AND PEOPLE REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT OPTION.

LET ME ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT, THAT I HADN'T PLANNED ON THE, THESE INTERACTIVE LINKS.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN CAN THEN COME BACK AND UPDATE OVER TIME SO THAT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS REFERENCE THE 2021 B FOR COUNTY MASTER PLAN? OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT'S PART OF THIS DOCUMENT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT CAN BE UPDATED WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

SO YOU CAN'T JUST UPDATE A HYPERLINK NOW, CAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT AS PUBLISHED AS THE TENURE COMP PLAN.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN UPDATE THE LINKS THAT ARE REFERENCES THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THE FIVE-YEAR UPDATE IS FOR YOU.

AN APPENDIX, COULD YOU DO AN APPENDIX THAT WOULD JUST HAVE THE LATEST PLANS? I JUST, I I'M JUST RAISING THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ONCE WE PASS THE REFER IT AND COUNCIL PASSES IT, I DON'T THINK IT CAN CHANGE.

CAUSE THE HYPERLINK DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WEB ADDRESS ITSELF.

IT'S IT'S WHERE IT REFERENCES TO THAT CHANGES.

SO THE WORDING WOULDN'T BE CHANGING, IT'S JUST WHERE IT'S WHERE IT'S DIRECTING TO YOU TO IT'S ACTUALLY CHANGING.

CAUSE LIKE YOU CAN, YOU, IT COULD SAY BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL FACILITY PLAN AND THAT'S ALL IT SAYS WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT AND THAT, AND IT TAKES YOU TO WHATEVER THE CURRENT ONE IS SO THAT THE HYPERLINK ISN'T, IT'S NOT WWW DOT BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, 2021.

AND SO WITH THE WORDS, DON'T CHANGE, THEN THE DOCUMENTS NOT REALLY CHANGING WELL, BUT HOWEVER, THE DOCUMENT WAS CREATED BASED ON WHAT THE CURRENT PLAN WAS AT THE TIME.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE THING, BUT THAT'S THAT'S FOR STAFF TO FIGURE OUT.

SO I CAN DO IT.

I'VE SEEN SOME COMMUNITIES ON THIS PARTICULAR NOTE, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, A WEBSITE DEDICATED TO THE COMP PLAN.

UM, THAT ALSO INCLUDES A SERIES OF LINKS TO RELATED COMMUNITY PLANS OR PROJECTS.

SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATES, THOSE TWO THINGS ON A WEBPAGE AND OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT COULD BE DYNAMIC.

THAT'S NOT THE ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENT THAT'S PART OF YOUR COMMUNICATION.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD WAS, UM, THE BLUFFTON EXPLORE OBVIOUSLY HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GIS DATA THAT RELATES TO ALL THIS INVENTORY WHERE THE SEWER IS, WHERE THE, UH, UM, ANY OF THE OTHER NUMBER OF LITANY OF THINGS, SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA.

UM, SO I ASSUME WE'LL ALSO INTERACT WE'LL INTERFACE AND DIRECT THEM TO THE LEFT AND EXPLORE IN HERE AS WELL AS IT PERTAINS IT THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.

I'M ASSUMING.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT DATA SET AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF IT IS YOU'RE ABLE TO, UM, QUERY IT ON YOUR OWN.

SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, A GREAT, UM, UH, NOTE, NOT JUST FOR THIS SECTION, BUT YOU MENTIONED ALSO FOR, FOR LAND USE FOR HOUSING, FOR A NUMBER OF THESE WHERE THAT DATA HAS BEEN USED, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TO BUILD THE CONCLUSION.

SO IF YOU WANT TO, REAL-WORLD IN A LIVE VERSION OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT.

CAN DO THAT.

WE'LL DO THAT.

GREAT.

UM, I HAD ONE OTHER THING I THINK OF US AS A RELATIVELY BIG THING.

UM, THE NATURAL RESOURCE SECTION OF THIS COMP PLAN, AND I REALIZE I'M NOW REFERRING TO ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE NOT COVERING HERE TONIGHT, BUT THE REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH OF THAT NATURAL RESOURCE SECTION IS PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND PARKS.

AREN'T NATURAL RESOURCES AND PARKS ARE COMMUNITY FACILITIES.

AND SO

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I'M JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS ON THAT OR HOW YOU ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT MOVING THAT? CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN HERE AND HOW YOU'RE, I, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH THAT AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT NOTE, UH, COMMISSIONER.

UM, AND I SAW YOUR, YOUR COMMENT IN THERE RELATED TO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S MIGHT BE A SUBJECTIVE ITEM.

I WANT TO TALK TO WITH STAFF.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN LOOKING AROUND SOUTH CAROLINA, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE COUCHING THAT ASSESSMENT BECAUSE AS A DEPARTMENT PIECE IN THE FACILITIES SECTION, I THINK WHAT WE SAW JUST SUCH THE OVERLAP BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO, UM, YOUR GREEN AMENITIES AND YOUR PARK SYSTEM, BUT WE'LL WORK ON THE RIGHT SOLUTION THERE.

AND IF, IF WE SAY TWO THING, IF WE SAY SOMETHING TWICE, UH, MAYBE IT'S JUST MORE ABOUT THE INVENTORY AND THE ASSESSMENT OF THE RESOURCE ASSESSMENT OF THE FACILITIES.

THAT SECTION IS MORE ABOUT HOW THEY PROVIDE ACCESS INTO, UM, UH, UH, YOUR GREEN OR BLUE WAY, UH, NETWORK.

UM, WE'LL, WE'LL WEIGH THAT AND COME UP WITH THE RIGHT SOLUTION.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.

I'M GONNA WRAP IT UP.

KYLE, YOU'VE WRAPPED UP.

Y'ALL DONE DONE.

I'VE GOT 30 MORE MINUTES.

I WANT TO FAIL.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

NO, AND THEN YOU CAN KEEP GOING.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL THIS, UH, TO TWO INTERESTING TOPICS HERE TONIGHT.

UM, LOTS OF WORK THAT OUR TEAM THAT WE PLAN TO BE DOING HERE, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, BUT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT TO WORK ON, ON THESE CHAPTERS AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

SO I'M HOPING THAT IN A ROLLING WAY, ALONG WITH STAFF, WE CAN BE PRODUCING OUR 4.0 VERSIONS OF EACH OF THESE, UH, AND THEN MOVING AND HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, UH, IN TANDEM.

SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR THE TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I MAY HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION CHARLIE? ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

THANK YOU.