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WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER THIS WEDNESDAY, JULY THE 20TH AT FOUR 30.UM, A ROBOT POLICE COMMISSIONER, LYDIA DEPAUL HERE.
COMMISSIONER AMANDA DENMARK HERE.
COMMISSIONER RICH DELCOR COMMISSIONER, KATHLEEN DUNKIN WALKING IN COMMISSIONER, CHARLIE WETMORE.
I THINK HE'S COMING A LITTLE BIT LATE.
UM, NOTICE REGARDING WHICH I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE LATE, UH, GWYNETH COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER NINE 30, UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS, WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE NINE 30, MAYBE CONTINUE TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR A SPECIAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT, EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHE'LL ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN.
AND SPEAKING OF WOULD DISRESPECT TO COMMISSION, STAFF, OR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MEETING.
WHEN SPEAKING FOR THE RECORD COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
UM, MAY I HAVE AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA AND A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, NOT FOLLOWING THE AGENDA OR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? WE HAVE ONE MR. ANDREW KEEL, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD IN CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
I LIVE AT 22 TRAIL RICHARD TREE PLUS SOUTH CAROLINA.
UM, WE'RE I WANTING TO TALK ABOUT JUST KIND OF ROSE IN GENERAL, SPECIFICALLY.
I THINK NEXT WEEK YOU HAVE A MEETING CONCERNING AMENDMENT TO THE MIDPOINT MASTER PLAN, PUT IN 400 HOUSES BEHIND MY SUBDIVISION.
UM, I GAVE YOU A PACKET OF THINGS SINCE I CAN'T FIT THREE MINUTES IN ALL MY STUFF IN THREE MINUTES.
SO I KINDLY ASK THAT YOU GUYS REVIEW IT AT SOME POINT, I'LL KIND OF HIT HIGHLIGHTS AND I'LL PROBABLY RUN OUT OF TIME.
ANYHOW, I ALSO WANT TO STATE THAT I DON'T REPRESENT THE BOARD OF IT POINT.
THIS IS MY OPINION AS A RESIDENT.
UM, SO THE FIRST THING I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN, UNLESS CERTAIN THINGS ARE MET.
UH, FIRST REASON I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ARE YOU FOLKS LIVE? BUT WHERE I LIVE AND MIDPOINT POWER GOES OUT CONSTANTLY.
OF COURSE IT WAS RANKED ME A LITTLE BIT HARD, BUT I MEAN OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS IT'S BEEN GOING OUT AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK AND SOME DAYS IT'S JUST PERFECTLY SUNNY.
IT MIGHT BE HOT OUT, BUT I'LL ONLY BE AN ELECTRICAL GRID HANDLE WHAT'S GOING IN THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND GOING IN RIGHT NOW, PUTTING MORE HOUSES IS GOING TO MAKE LIFE EVEN MORE, MORE STRESS ON THE ELECTRIC GRID.
UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT PLAN.
I WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM THE LAST MEETING AND LOOKED AT THE AGENDA FROM COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO AND THERE SEEMS TO BE LIKE THREE PAGES ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF BLUFFTON.
I MEAN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT BLUFFTON, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY HANDLE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOW DOES THIS GO IN IT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY LIKES TO EAT A TACO BELL OR DAIRY QUEEN, LIKE MAYBE THE TACO BELL CLOSES AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, EVERY NIGHT, THE DAIRY QUEEN I ONLY EVER SEE.
I MEAN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE WORKERS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
I THINK THINGS JUST KIND OF NEED TO SLOW DOWN.
UM, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT BEHIND MY HOUSE IS THE SECOND ACCESS POINT.
UH, THE ONLY ONES TO USE THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE THROUGH MIDPOINT.
I WANT TO RUN ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC, EVERYTHING THROUGH THERE.
THAT INTERSECTION IS ALSO DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE RIVER HIGH SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS, TRYING TO GET OUT IS RIDICULOUS WITH ALL THE CARS GOING INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL DURING SCHOOL TIME, IT'S JUST 400 MORE HOMES.
THE CONGESTION WITHOUT A SECOND ACCESS POINT WAS JUST GOING TO BE RIDICULOUS.
IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE MAPS THAT I HAD THERE, YOU KNOW, RUNS STRAIGHT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY GOES AND WALKS THEIR DOGS.
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AT IT AND I'LL BE HERE IN A WEEK.THREE MINUTES IS ALWAYS A LOT QUICKER WHEN YOU'RE GOOD AT THE SPEAKING.
THERE'S NO OLD BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS.
SO NOW WE'RE HERE FOR, UM, ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH ARE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE PEOPLE AND CULTURAL RESOURCE ELEMENTS FOR BLUEPRINT, BLUFFTON AND UPDATE LONG RANGE CONFERENCE, A PLAN FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
CHARLOTTE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN INTRO? THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BAD WEATHER, UM, COLLIDED PATHS.
UH, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE BEGINNING TO LOOK AT EACH ELEMENT OF OUR UPDATED, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR A 10 ELEMENTS.
THE ELEMENTS WE'RE REVIEWING TONIGHT WITH NEW PEOPLE OR POPULATION AND THE CULTURAL RESOURCES ELEMENT WE WOULD LIKE FOR COMMENTS TO BE, UM, CONCENTRATED ON BOTH BOTH OF THESE TWO AREAS.
WE WILL GET TO THE OTHER ELEMENTS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
TOMORROW 21ST AT FOUR 30, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO TONIGHT, UM, WE HAVE HIGHWAY OR CONSULTANT AND THEN ASK WHO'S JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
AND, UM, IF YOU COULD, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, UH, SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO YOUR MICROPHONE, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFICULTY WITH HIM HEARING AND UM, SO IF YOU DO THAT, THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL AND UH, WE'RE TAKING NOTES.
UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE DRAFT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, UM, PLEASE, PLEASE IDENTIFY THAT.
UM, WE'RE ALSO SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON EACH CHAPTER.
IF YOU FEEL THAT SOMETHING'S MISSING NEEDS TO CHANGE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN MAKING THOSE UPDATES, UH, RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE.
OH, WE MAY ASK A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, DURING THIS FORMAT OF A WORKSHOP, CAN THE PUBLIC, UM, IF I CALL THEM UP AND SPEAK, IF THEY HAVE A CONCERN OR A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING RELATING TO THIS CHAPTER YES.
UM, JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, NOT TO BE VERY HORRIBLE.
SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT OKAY, GREAT.
UH, CHARLOTTE, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
UH, WELL I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THIS ADDITIONAL TIME.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, I THINK IN OUR PREVIOUS SESSION, IT'S NOT COMMON TO HAVE SUCH A LEANED IN GROUP, BUT WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I THINK AS WE WORKED THROUGH EACH OF THESE, UM, TOPICS, UH, INTER UH, REALLY HOPING TO, UH, WANT TO EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES THAT, THAT, UH, WERE PRESENT AS WE STUDIED THESE AND, AND NUMBER TWO, GET INTO SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL AND DIRECTION AND HOW WE CAN ITERATE AND EVOLVE AND MOVE CLOSER TO A TARGET WITH AN H.
SO, UH, DURING OUR LAST MEETING, WE SET TOGETHER A SCHEDULE AND, UM, WHAT I'D LOVE TO DO WITH THESE, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS WORKS IS DEVELOP A KIND OF RHYTHM, UH, TO EGYPT SESSIONS.
SO WE GET SOME CONSISTENT FEEDBACK, HAVE SOME CONSISTENT DISCUSSION AND ALSO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT TIME, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLORE, UH, EACH TOPIC A TURN.
SO I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK SCREEN SHARE HERE, CHARLOTTE T YOU ALL, LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE, UH, ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN.
AGAIN, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO HEARING YOU ALL, UH, LOOK DIFFICULT TO HEARING IN GENERAL, BUT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH HERE AS WELL.
UM, SO FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, LET'S CALL THIS THE WORKSHOP SERIES.
UH, WE'RE MEETING ONE OF FIVE, UH, REMEMBERING THAT WE WANT TO STRADDLE HERE.
THE JULY END OF JULY, EARLY PART OF AUGUST.
THE PURPOSE IS I PULLED OUT FROM OUR DISCUSSION, UH, UH, ON THE 13TH WAS TO DISCUSS THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THUS FAR FROM YOU AND FROM STAFF, UH, AND, UH, OTHER RELATED FOLKS, UH, THROUGH THIS RECRUITING PROCESS, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND IDEAS THAT, UH, WE'RE OFF THOSE COMMENTS FROM YOU AND FROM INVITED STAKEHOLDERS, UH, GO INTO DEPTH ON A FEW OF THEM THAT THAT MAY BE MORE SUBJECTIVE OR POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIAL JUST IN TERMS OF HOW THEY MAY AFFECT OTHER PIECES WITHIN THIS PLAN.
AND MY, MY CRITICAL PURPOSE HERE CORE
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PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE THIS KIND OF REVISION PATHWAY AND SCHEDULE, UH, REGARDLESS OF HOW FAR THAT MIGHT BE.I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK COMING OUT OF EACH OF THESE SESSIONS, NOW, WHAT I COULD DO, WE CAN DO AS A TEAM TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS, MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT THE PRIORITIES THAT NEEDS TO BE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, AND THAT ULTIMATELY THIS CLOSER TO, UH, THE RIGHT, UH, THE RIGHT END POINT.
SO FOR TONIGHT, UM, A FEW THINGS AGAIN, TALK ABOUT THE DRUM BEAT THAT WE DO CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THESE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL SCHEDULE AND JUST IN TERMS OF THE FIVE DEFINES THE MAINS, WHICH WE JUST DID THERE IN TERMS OF THE DISCUSSION.
AND THEN FOR THREE AND FOUR, UH, THIS IS THE MEAT WE WANT TO GET INTO, UM, AN OVERVIEW OF, OF EACH OF OUR CHAPTERS FOR TONIGHT, WHICH THOSE ARE CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, IN PEOPLE OF THIS EVENING, UH, WITH EACH OF THOSE, I WANT TO PROVIDE A QUICK SUMMARY OF, OF WHAT I'VE HEARD, UM, A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS, WHICH I'LL SHOW HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THOSE KEY AREAS.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, I, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON A PATHWAY THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU ALL IN TERMS OF REVISIONS, BUT I WANT TO, UH, ENSURE AND ALIGN AND AFFIRM IF YOU ALL, BEFORE WE LEAVE THE C I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ADDRESS COMMENTS, ONE THING WE'LL DO ALONG WITH STAFF WAS CHARLOTTE WITH KATHERINE AND THE FOOTBALL TEAM IS, IS, UH, CONFIRM AT REVISION PATHWAY WITH THEM AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO IT'S, CHARLOTTE'S TAKING VOTES, UH, AS OTHERS ARE TAKING NOTES AND MAKE SURE AS WE MAKE THE EDITS THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING ALL INSERTIONS, UM, AS WE DO.
SO THERE'LL BE A CHECK FOR BEGIN GOING.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'RE COMPLETED WITH THIS EXTRA, THERE'LL BE A CHECK POINT WITH STAFF TO CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE, UH, ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED CONCERNS.
UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF OUR TOPICS, THIS IS OUR SCHEDULE OVERALL TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNITY FACILITIES IS COMING UP.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND MOBILITY ISSUES AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, UM, UH, BY THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ON AUGUST 2ND, FOURTH, 10TH, FIRST, WE'LL TALK ABOUT ANDREESSEN HOUSING AS YOU'LL SEE TWO VERY INTERRELATED TOPICS NEXT WE'LL GET INTO NATURAL RESOURCES AND THAT, THAT NEW TOPIC AS AT THIS 10 YEAR PERIOD RESILIENCY, UH, AND THEN ON THE 10TH, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THAT FINAL CHAPTER, THE PRIORITY INVESTMENTS, UH, WHICH, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE, UH, CHAPTER COMPARE OUR TOPIC ONES, BUT ONE THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS, UH, NONETHELESS, A QUICK KEY IN THIS.
AND I'D LOVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS HERE.
ONCE WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THIS DOCUMENT, UH, PA JUST MEANS PROPOSED ACTIONS.
SO AS WE GET INTO THIS, WHAT I WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF EACH OF THESE, UH, THE ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT COME UP IS FROM ME, SOME PROPOSED ACTION OF HOW WE ADDRESS THAT IN THE DRAFT, UH, LARGE OR SMALL, UH, WHITE ARROW, UH, CHARLOTTE FROM THE TEAM.
UH, ANY COMMENTS ON OUR JENNIFER THIS EVENING? SHOULD WE PROCEED? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CARRIE.
WHEN SHOULD WE HAVE THE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE CAN DO IT NOW.
UM, KYLE, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO THIS CHAPTER OF CULTURAL RESOURCES OR PEOPLE BOTH.
SO IT'S A COMBO COMMENT OR TWO DIFFERENT COMMENTS.
IT'S ONE PERSON'S COMMENT IN REGARDS TO TODAY'S WORKSHOP.
WELL THEN WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT PERSON COME UP AND GO AHEAD AND DO THAT BEFORE WE START GETTING INTO THE META THING.
THAT'S CARMEN MEETS SOUNDS GREAT.
HELLO, AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS NAME I'M HAVING WITH ONE 11 QUARTER CASTING CIRCLE.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING, UH, THESE WORKSHOPS.
UM, I'M SURE, UH, THREE POINTS, ONE ON, UM, COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE BEFORE THOUGH IS, UH, POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND THE SURVEYS THAT WERE CONDUCTED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT LISTED AS WEAKNESS.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S A THEME THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE BEGINNING CHAPTERS AND IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY EXPRESS.
THE COMMUNITY EXPRESSED A DESIRE FOR MORE PUBLIC ART, INCLUDING NON VISUAL ARTS, LIKE PERFORMANCE, ART, MUSIC, AND POETRY, BOTH ITS HISTORY SHOULD CONTINUE TO FULLY BE UNDERSTOOD AND CELEBRATE, ESPECIALLY THE LIVING HISTORY OF THE GABA, EACH SHEET NATION, WHICH THE SECOND SENTENCE I FULLY SUPPORT.
I QUESTIONED WHETHER HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID THEY WANT MORE PUBLIC ART PERFORMANCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT AGAIN, AND I WON'T BE LATE.
I ALREADY GAVE YOU A SUMMARY OF ALL THE CHAPTERS, BUT WHAT I DID DO, UM, AND AS A REMINDER, CULTURAL RESOURCES IS 14 PAGES IN THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES HAVE FOUR PAGES JUST FOR COMPARISON.
I LOOKED AT THE BUFORD PLAN, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, AND THIS IS THE CITY, NOT THE COUNTY.
THE BEAUTIFUL PLAN HAS 12 PAGES ON COMMUNITY RESOURCES, 19 PAGES ON TRANSPORTATION AND NINE MAPS, 11 BY 17.
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SO YOU CAN EASILY READ THEM AND 25 PAGES ON COMMUNITY FACILITIES.SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPARISON.
SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THIS.
I LOOKED AT THE STATUTE AS TO WHAT THIS ELEMENT SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE.
SO CULTURAL RESOURCES, WHICH CONSIDERS HISTORIC BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, UNIQUE, NATURAL SCENIC RESOURCES, ARCHITECTURAL, AND OTHER CULTURAL RESOURCES, WHEREAS A SEPARATE BOARD EXISTS PURSUANT TO THIS CHAPTER.
THIS ELEMENT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EXISTING BOARD.
SO I ASKED YOU, WE HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION, AND A BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING? AND ARE THEY DOING THESE SEVEN RECOMMENDATIONS? OR IS THIS SOMETHING I DON'T THINK THAT'S CLEAR.
AND LASTLY, UM, THE HISTORICAL SECTION IS TO BE COMMANDED.
IT'S VERY DETAILED, UH, LOTS OF INFORMATION THERE.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT ONE CITATION AND ALL THOSE PAGES.
SO IF I WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY OF BLUFFTON, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
AND IN PARTICULAR, ONE CITATION IS WHERE ONE SECTION IS PARTICULARLY BOTHERSOME ON THE PLANT, JUST MERCANTILE A TWO-STORY WOOD-FRAME BUILDING KNOWN AS THE QUOTE JUICE STORE GOODS, INCLUDING CLOTHING, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND I DID TRY TO SEARCH THAT IN GOOGLE TO SEE IF THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE QUOTE AND IT'S NOT OKAY.
IT SAYS MERCANTILE TWO-STORY WITH A GOODS POP OUT RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD SAY WHOEVER WROTE THAT SECTION OF THE CONSULTANTS, THEY MAY NEED SOME DIVERSITY INCLUSION AND EQUITY TRAINING.
WELL, IT LITERALLY IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED AS, AS FRIENDS OF THE RABINOW IMAGES, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE CALLED.
AND SO IT GETS A HISTORICAL REFERENCE.
I COULDN'T FIND IT, BUT THEN THE LOCAL, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT ADDS ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S ME AND I'M NOT JEWISH.
I'M JUST RESPECTFUL THAT WE'RE NOT CALLING IT OUT THAT WAY.
DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR THOSE COMMENTS? I WAS, YEAH.
THANK YOU, MS. SMITH, AND REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT.
I'VE NOTED EACH OF THESE COMMENTS AS WE'VE GONE AND WORKING HARD TO ADDRESS THOSE.
WELL, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I'M SORRY, BEFORE I JUMP IN? UM, I DON'T THINK SO RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT, AS I MENTIONED, I CAN FOLLOW UP, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS DOCUMENT, THIS IS TENDED TO BE A WORKING DEBT BACK AND AS WE WORKED THROUGH EACH OF THESE, UH, THESE SESSIONS, SO I MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER ALL THE GROUND A COUPLE OF QUICK, QUICK STATS, JUST TO WANT TO GIVE SOME, UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF, OF COMMENTS BACK SO FAR 46 COMMENTS WERE COLLECTED, BUT THEN THIS FROM, UH, THE CONDITION, UH, DOES NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM STAFF AND FROM THOSE OF OUT THERE, BUT, UH, JUST OF YOUR COMMENTS, ABOUT 20% OF THE OVERALL 88%, 80% OF THE OVERALL, UM, AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH EACH OF THESE, AS YOU READ THIS, UH, NOTES BELOW ARE GENERALLY IN THE ORDER FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CHAPTER TO THE END.
SO AS YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG THIS, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, GRADING MY ASSESSMENT OF, OF, OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO FROM THE BEGINNING OF THAT CHAPTER TO THE END, BEFORE I JUMPED INTO THIS, DO I DO IT AND GIVE SOME A QUICK OF WHAT SOME OF THESE TERMS, UH, IN MS. MANNING, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT I ADDED, UM, A NUMBER OF YOUR COMMENTS TO, UH, THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL AS YOU, AS YOU BEGIN, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE AREAS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ONE, OR WE WOULD CALL SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS, EDITS, THINGS THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTENT AND ADDITIONAL VISION.
I BELIEVE A COUPLE OF MISMANAGED COMMENTS THROUGHOUT BEEN REFERRING TO THAT, UH, AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO EXPAND SOME NARRATIVE.
WE MAY NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL MAPS FIGURES, UH, TO HELP TELL THE STORY IN A MORE BUSTER COMPLETE WAY.
THERE MAY BE ACTIONS THAT ARE MISSING THAT WANT TO, UH, ENSURE THAT ARE ADDED HERE OR EVALUATED, UH, AT SOME LEVEL BY OUR EXPANDED TEAM.
SO SUBSTANTIAL, UH, EDITS FOR US OR COMMENTS FOR US ARE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOKING AT, UH, UM, UH, ESPECIALLY CRITICALLY AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, SUBJECTIVE EDITS OR COMMENTS.
THOSE ARE PIECES THAT HAVE BUBBLED UP THROUGH YOUR COMMENTS OR STAFF, ANYONE THROUGH THIS POINT AROUND WHERE THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME, UM, THERE IS, THERE IS SOME SUBJECTIVITY IN THAT TERM, UM, UH, MEANING THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A STAFF WAY.
AND, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFERING OPINION ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS A OR B.
I THINK THE FINAL CUP WAS MEETING
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MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.I NEED SOME, I NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM, FROM YOU ALL FROM STAFF IN HOW TO PROCEED.
THAT'S WHAT THE SUBJECTIVE ITEMS WOULD BE.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST SIMPLE PIECES, THIS ARE NOT NECESSARILY MEANING SIMPLE, BUT THEY'RE SMALL, BUT MEANING THAT THERE IS CLEAR DIRECTION THAT I'VE RECEIVED, I BELIEVE WITHIN YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INPUT NECESSARILY FROM STAFF.
OTHER THAN JUST TO SEE THAT EDIT HAS BEEN PAID, THAT REVISION HAS BETA DOCUMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE, THOSE THREE DISTINCTIONS BEFORE I JUMPED INTO CULTURAL RESOURCES? NOPE, GO AHEAD.
WELL, I'M GOING TO POP UP THE, UH, THE PDF AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS AS WELL, JUST TO, UH, UH, PUT THIS IN ORDER.
BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO, I THINK IS FIRST TO JUST, UH, HIGHLIGHT YOU HAVE THE SUBSTANTIAL PIECES THAT I IDENTIFIED, UH, AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR INITIAL SCAN OF, OF COMPETENCE, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, YOU REMEMBER CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, COLLECTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS, SUBTOPICS AND, UM, SPANNING ACTUALLY LISTED THOSE IN, IN GOOD ORDER, UM, LOTS OF COVERAGE, UH, AND ESPECIALLY IN A HISTORIC COMMUNITY LIKE YOUR OWN, UH, UH, LOTS OF HISTORY TO BE INCLUDED.
I THINK ONE THING THAT I NOTICED IN TERMS OF, UH, CONFLICT OR, UH, UH, OR, UH, A RESONANT PIECE WITH THIS IS EXPANDING THE NARRATIVE OR INVENTORY AROUND SPECIFICALLY THE NONWHITE EXPERIENCES, UH, IN, IN AND AROUND BLUFFTON.
SO THAT MAY PREDATE, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGIN OF ACTUAL COMMUNITY, SOME THOUGHTS IN THERE ABOUT TRANSPORTATION ROUTES AS ORIGINATING FACTORS FOR WHY THIS PARTICULAR PLACE IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CROSSROADS, UH, UH, SUCH AN ECONOMIC, UH, ALSO THE IDEA THAT SOME OF THE FAMILIAL HISTORIES THAT ARE HERE, UH, IN THE TOWN AND HOW THOSE RELATE TO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC USES THAT ONE OF THOSE JUST CAME UP ACTUALLY, RIGHT? I'M IN THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS AND HOW THOSE FAMILIES, UH, UH, UH, ARE, ARE MANIFEST IN NUMBER OF YOUR BUILDINGS AND STORIES AS WELL.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS, IS, UH, PRETTY SELF EVIDENT IN HOW WE ADDRESS THAT.
I THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT EXPANDING, UH, AND, AND MAKING A MORE INCLUSIVE STORY THERE AND TORY AROUND, UH, OF THOSE STORIES.
LET ME PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY REFLECTION ON THAT PARTICULAR NOTE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HAVE ANYTHING.
UH, ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP IN THE COMMENTS THAT WE'LL BE ABSOLUTELY SURE TO ADDRESS HERE IS THE EXPERIENCE OF THE HISPANIC, LATINO COMMUNITY, UH, IN AND AROUND, UH, OFTEN A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES IDENTIFIED, INTEGRATE REFERENCES WHERE APPLICABLE TO THAT COMMUNITY.
UH, I THINK THIS RELATES ALSO OVER THE PEOPLE CHAPTER, UM, TELLING THAT STORY IN TERMS OF THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS AND HOW THOSE ARE CHANGED OVER TIME.
YOU REALLY WANT TO INCLUDE THIS AS WELL AS SOME EXPLICIT REFERENCES COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES, OR REALLY THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE VIBRANCY, YOU KNOW, OF THIS PLACE, UH, BOTH TODAY AND ANTICIPATED THAT IN THE FUTURE, UH, COMMENTS ON BEAT.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH WHAT? CAUSE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.
AND ALASTA, BUT NOT AT LEAST IN TERMS OF SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS, UM, INFILL DEVELOPMENT REFERENCES.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PARTICULARLY, UM, UH, IMPORTANT POINT THAT WAS MADE AROUND OLD TOWN.
A LOT, SEVERAL REFERENCES IN THERE TO PROJECTS THAT ARE OCCURRING WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE DISTRICT AND ARE, ARE, ARE PRIVY TO SOME OF THE, UH, UH, SPECIAL CONSIDERATION, UH, BROUGHT ON BY THE MASTER PLAN AND SUBSEQUENT, UH, REGULATORY EFFORTS THERE.
UH, THERE'S A CONNECTION, I BELIEVE FOR REFERENCES HERE WITH ACTIONS AND LATER ON, UH, IN THE PLANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT LAND USE OR WE THINK ABOUT ECONOMICS, UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF, I WOULD CALL THEM CROSS CUTTING, UH, UM, UH, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE ACTIONS OR THEY'RE JUST POINTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE.
I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER SORT OF GENERAL THEME, THE DOCUMENT, IF WE'RE SAYING SOMETHING AND THAT RELATES TO SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR REFERENCE FOR THAT.
AND WHAT I WOULD INTEND TO DO WITH, ESPECIALLY FOR OLD TOWN, UH, IS, IS DRAW THOSE CONNECTIONS A LOT EXPLICITLY THROUGHOUT, AT ANY POINT ON OR FOLLOW UP ON.
ANYONE ELSE? WELL, WITH EACH OF THESE, I WOULD, UH, I'D LOVE TO PAUSE HERE AND SEE THE DOOR OPEN JUST IN CASE THERE ARE ANY
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ADDITIONAL SUBSTANTIAL PIECE, UH, THAT I'VE NOT SEEN IN THE COMMENTS OR THAT YOU, YOU BELIEVE ON A RISE THAT'S LEVEL.DOES THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS FITS.
I WAS TALKING TO THIS WITH CHARLOTTE FROM EARLIER.
I THINK THERE'S 37 ACTION PLANS IN CULTURAL.
I THINK I COUNTED THEM CORRECTLY.
THE VAST MAJORITY, IF NOT, ALL OF THEM ARE CENTERED AROUND OLD TOWN, WHICH IS ONE SQUARE MILE OF BLUFFTON.
WE JUST HAD ONE RESIDENT COME UP AND TALK ABOUT ANOTHER PART OF BLUFFTON AND WE'VE GOT 53 SQUARE MILES THAT I DON'T FEEL WE'RE ADDRESSING FROM A CULTURAL OR PEOPLE STANDPOINT.
I'M SORRY, JUST THE HISTORY, I GUESS LIKE YOU WERE TALKING WITH TRAUMA ABOUT OUTSIDE OF BLUFFTON OF OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON PER SE, BUT LET'S REACH OUT TO THE OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AND EXPAND THE BLUFFTON FEEL IF WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT.
ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE 53 SQUARE MILES.
AND JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE ACTION PLANS IN THIS AREA OR AN OLD TOWN, WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A FAMILIAR THEME AND JUST ABOUT ALL THE TOPICS FOR ME, I DON'T HAVE A MAGIC, HERE'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN BLUFFTON AS LONG AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON IN HERE, CAN WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT GROWTH? AND WE HEAR ABOUT HOW THAT GROWTH DOESN'T FEEL LIKE BLUFFTON, AND YET OUR 10 YEAR MASTER PLAN REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO ADDRESS IT.
CAN WE EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? UM, JUST IN TERMS OF, UH, ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THIS CHAPTER.
I, AND I, I TAKE THE POINT ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT FOLKS ON OLD TOWN.
I THINK IN TERMS OF THE WAY THIS TOPIC IS GREAT, THERE'S KIND OF A NATURAL LEAN TOWARD SOME OF THE MORE HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT IF THERE IS A, UH, SOME, SOME SPECIFIC DIRECTION AND HOW WE MIGHT ON IT HAVE TO DO WITH SOME PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS, ACTIVITIES, WHAT COULD WE FOCUS ON? SO I THINK TO SOME BROAD IMPACT TO THE FULL GEOGRAPHY, WELL, I CAN, I CAN POSSIBLY ATTEMPT THIS.
UM, NOW, FIRST OF ALL, FROM A HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE, THE 53 SQUARE MILES FOR THE MOST PART OUTSIDE OF PALMETTO BLUFF WAS PAPERMILL FOREST.
SO THERE ISN'T MUCH OTHER THAN IT SPED AND PAPER MOLE FOR US, AND MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE REFERENCED AS A PART OF IT.
WHY THEY'RE IN A ROW, WHY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PINE TREES AS MUCH AS THE MIDDLE LIVE OAKS, BUT, UM, THE POLE MODEL BLUFF AREA ISN'T ADDRESSED AND THERE'S A LARGE, UH, CULTURAL HISTORY IN THAT PART OF TOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OLD MANSION THERE AND WHERE THE PLANNERS USED TO COME DOWN IN THE SUMMERTIME, NOT ONLY LOVING THEM, BUT OUT TO THE BLUFF.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S THE HISTORIC FOR THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO ON THE CULTURAL SIDE.
UM, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT NEW PARKS OUT IN THE BUCK, WALTER AREA.
WE HAVE, UM, THE, THE BARN AND, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS OUT THERE THAT, THAT WE TRULY DO WANT TO SAY ALMOST I DON'T, AND I'M ONE PERSON I'M NOT EVERYBODY UP HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK, UM, BUCK ALTAR AND NEW SIDE SHOULD BE MIRROR IMAGES OF OLD TOWN WITH, WITH WHAT'S OFFERED, THEY NEED THEIR OWN UNIQUE IDENTITY AND CHARACTER, BUT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE PARTS IN THIS.
AND I, I REALLY WASN'T THINKING THAT WAY UNTIL THE TWO OF YOU MENTIONED THAT, BUT IT'S TRUE.
IT'S IT'S MOST OF OUR HISTORY THAT WE'VE ALWAYS FOCUSED ON IS IN THIS ONE SQUARE MILE, BUT NOW WE DO NEED, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE OTHERS.
AND WE STRUGGLED WITH THAT WHEN WE DID THE 2007 COMP PLAN UPDATE WITH BUCK WALTER AND MAKING THAT A HUB UP THERE, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE DO NEED TO WRESTLE WITH, WITH THOSE, LET ME ADD, I THINK THE SIMMONS HILL STREET AND THE, THAT THERE WAS A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AREA.
I DON'T SEE MUCH OF IT IN HERE.
AS FAR AS THE BUCK WALTER PLACE.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE, COULD WE BE DOING MORE AS A COMMISSION, AS TOWN COUNCIL WALKABILITY, BETTER PARKING, UM, BETTER FRONTAGE ROADS AND NOT GIVING UP ON ANY OF THOSE SO THAT WE CAN CREATE SOME CONNECTIONS TO THE FIELD OF OLD TIME.
I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU CANNOT RECREATE
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OLD TOWN AND HE HAD THE LAKE, BUT BOY, COULD WE MAKE BETTER CONNECTIONS BETWEEN COMMUNITIES? I BET YOU COOK.I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN BE BETTER.
SO IF I COULD TRY TO REPEAT BACK HERE A LITTLE BIT AND ARTICULATE, I THINK I'M HEARING IT'S, IT'S PART OF THIS BECOMES IN SOME OF THE DO DEVELOP THAT'S OCCURRED IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ASSIGNING IDENTITY OR, UH, IT IS TRYING TO GROW SOME CONNECTION, COMMUNITY CONNECTION TO THESE, THESE PLACES.
A LOT OF THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE ASPIRATIONAL THIS POINT, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS OUTSIDE OF TECH ON THAT NEED TO BE REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THEIR, THEIR HISTORY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE NEWER COMMUNITIES OR PARTS OF OUR YEARLY, UH, THERE ARE PIECES OF THIS PLANT THAT NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE SPECIFIC.
AM I, AM I GETTING CLOSE ON THAT? YES.
I JUST A FINAL COMMENT FROM ME ON THIS TOPIC.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OTHER 53 SQUARE MILES SEE THEMSELVES IN THIS PLAN SOMEHOW.
AND THERE ARE PARTS OF IT THAT THEY DO, BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY SEE IT IN THE CULTURAL PEOPLE.
I THINK JUST GENERALLY, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THERE'S BEEN A HUGE FOCUS ON HISTORICAL PERS THAT ONE SQUARE MILE, BUT I DON'T THINK MOST, BOTH IN RESIDENTS EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE MILE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A HANDFUL THAT ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, THEY KNOW WHY PEOPLE THEY KNOW EXACTLY, EXACTLY OR CULTURAL LAND OR THAT AGRICULTURAL LAND WAS WHAT KIND OF AGRICULTURE IT WAS IN THE AIR MAY NOT KNOW.
AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST I THINK, AND, AND I EVEN THINK BEFORE WE STARTED USING THIS WORD AND BELL THEMSELVES, I THINK EVEN FOR BACK TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS AND HOW THEY, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE KIND OF PICKS UP IS THAT'S NOT JUST AN OLD TOWN, ONE SQUARE MILE THAT IS, THIS AREA HAD A LOT OF NATIVE AMERICANS HAD A LOT OF TRADE THAT WAS HAPPENING, WHERE THAT WAS TRAINING, WHERE THAT TRADE WAS HAPPENING, WHY THIS, THIS PARTICULAR EVENT IS SIGNIFICANT.
UM, I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, LIKE, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO EXPLORE IN TERMS OF THIS, THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND.
LIKE YOU SAID, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN JUST DON'T THINK NO.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TYING IN EVERYBODY ELSE TO SEEING THEMSELVES AS A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY YESTERDAY.
I THINK MAYBE IF THERE'S ANOTHER FEET IN THIS, I'VE MISSED IT.
IT MIGHT JUST BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TELLING THAT FULLER, COMPLETE STORY.
UM, AND I, I CERTAINLY PICKED UP ON THAT THEN I'D HAVE A EAR, BUT, UM, THAT MAY APPLY ALSO TO SOME OF THE GEOGRAPHY THAT SUSPEND DISCUSSED AS WELL.
WE HAVE SOMEONE, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY YOUR NAME GREAT, UM, 6 0 5 SANDY SHOALS PATHS, AND I'M ACTUALLY WITH THE COMMONWEALTH CONSERVANCY.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP CAUSE I WAS GOING TO AS WELL.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, FOR GO OFF ON WHAT YOU SAID.
UM, WE HAVE OVER 10,000 YEARS OF HISTORY HERE, UM, WITH INDIGENOUS.
SO, UM, I DO THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE, AND ALSO WITH THEIR PAPER MILL COURSE, YOUR EARLIER COMMENT BEFORE THEIR PAPER MILL FORCE, THEY WERE PLANTATIONS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO INCORPORATE THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE PLANTATIONS WHERE THEY ENSLAVED.
SO, AND NOW THEY CAN MENTION THAT ON THE HEADWATERS OF THE NEW RIVER OR THE OLD RICE PLANTATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING INTO A VIEW FOR A COUNTY PARK.
AND THOSE AREN'T, I MEAN, WE HAD THE RICE FIELDS, WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT AREN'T MENTIONED IN HERE.
AND I, I MEAN THE MSC STORY IS A WONDERFUL STORY, BUT I'D RATHER HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF.
I MEAN, JUST AT PALMER WALK, WHATEVER, NO ARTIFACTS ARE 10,000 YEARS OLD, SO KYLE, I'M SURE YOU NEED INFORMATION.
KATIE WOULD LOVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU, GIVE THEM A CALL AT PALMETTO BLUFF.
I WAS SAYING IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION, I'M SURE KATIE WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU SO YOU COULD GIVE HER A CALL AT PALMETTO BLUFF.
THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT GATE OF THE THINGS WE STRUGGLE WITH IN A CHAPTER LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW YOU HAVE A RICH AND DENSE AND THICK HISTORY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO, I THINK, TELL A STORY HERE IN A, IN A RELATIVELY BRIEF WAY, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MANY LINES THAT NEED TO BE,
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UH, INCLUDED.SO I THINK IN THE NEXT VERSION, AS WE WORK WITH STAFF ON WHAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS, IS, IS RIGHT SIDES, BUT ALSO INCLUDE, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS, THIS RICH HISTORY, UH, IS PART OF THE PIECE IN TERMS OF SOME SPECIFIC ACTIONS, UH, REALLY NEED TO LOOK BACK THROUGH THAT AGENDA.
UH, THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, REACHING, UH, OR AS YOU MENTIONED, UH, 53 SQUARE MILES, UH, W WITH IMPACT, UH, HERE, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, I THINK WITH THE HISTORY, I THINK IT'S A BIG TASK.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO GET ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AS COMPLETE HISTORY.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT SECTION FOCUSED ON WHATEVER IS THE MOST RELEVANT TO OUR TEN-YEAR PLAN TODAY.
AND MAYBE ONE OF OUR ACTION ITEMS IS TO HAVE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND DO RESEARCH AND PUT TOGETHER A MUCH MORE COMPLETE AND REPRESENTATIVE HISTORY OF THE PLACE THAT WE'RE IN.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT CALM, COMPETENT UP IN A GREAT OUTGROWTH OF THE WORK OR, UM, BED.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE PLACE AND CAN TALK ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.
UM, I DID WANT TO QUICKLY COVER JUST A FEW ITEMS HERE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO NAIL DOWN FULLY, UH, WITHIN THIS DISCUSSION, BUT JUST SOME SUBJECTIVE PIECES THAT, THAT POPPED UP.
THINK DURING MY REVIEW IN THIS CHAPTER, I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE LINE BY LINE, BUT I'LL, I WILL HIT ON A COUPLE, I THINK ARE PRETTY CRITICAL OR IMPORTANT.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS IN THIS ABOUT THIS IDEA OF THE STATE OF MIND, UH, BASED ON, UH, 2011 SHRED THE SUBSEQUENT BRANDING THAT'S GONE ON AT THE IDEA, OR NEED TO DEFINE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS APPLIES TO THIS CHAPTER, BUT ALSO AS THEY APPLY TO CHAPTERS, YOU KNOW, IN THE, THE, UH, THE SUBSEQUENT PLAN.
UM, SO WHAT I WANT TO DO, I THINK WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR ACTION IT'S, IT'S WORK, DO ALL THE STAFF TO THEN HOW WE DO FIND THAT, UM, UH, IN, IN THIS WORK, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS THAT WERE APPLIED TO THAT.
UM, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, HOW RELEVANT ARE THEY? UM, HOW UNDERLINE SHOULD THEY BE IN PLAN? UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, BUT, WELL, IT HELPED ME, UH, ANSWER.
ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? ONE IS BECAUSE IT IS, IS FAIRLY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS QUESTION I'M WRITING ANOTHER STATE OF MIND.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UPS OR I USE HOW TO DEFINE THAT OR CHARACTERIZE THAT QUESTION? I HAVE, IT IS A LOADED QUESTION.
WHY I KEEP ASKING, WHAT DOES THIS BLUFF IN SAY THE MIND THAT KEEPS ME THINKING ABOUT, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN AND CHARRETTE TO SEE, CAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL BUILT AROUND THIS IDEA OF STATE OF MIND, SO IT'S REVIEWING IT AND THEY DON'T REALLY DEFINE IT AND THEY'RE EITHER, OKAY.
CAN I PAUSE THIS THERE FOR A SECOND? I WANT TO ASK SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, IF HE'S WILLING TO COME UP AND TELL US WHAT THE BLUFFTON STATE OF MIND IS, BECAUSE I THINK THE MOST APPROPRIATE PERSON TO DEFINE THAT IS SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE.
YEAH, WELL, LONG AFTER I WAS WITH TWO, FOUR DEFINED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL DEFINES THEIR OWN STATE OF MIND.
KYLE, COULD YOU HEAR HIM? I CAN IT'S.
AND TO ME, THIS STATE OF MIND IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CREATED BLUFFTON AND I WANT IT IS IT'S IT'S EMMETT MCCRACKEN.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GO SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WITH THIS.
I MEAN, THE CIVIL WAR STARTED HERE BECAUSE LOFTON WAS A REBELLIOUS PEOPLE AND WE CONTINUE TO BE A REBELLIOUS PEOPLE, OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM SAYING THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH NOW.
AND WE'LL YOU JUST STARTED PUTTING SOMETHING UP ON THE SCREEN.
COULD YOU BRING THAT BACK? THAT HAD THE DEFINITION YEAH.
FOUND THIS IS FROM THE CHARETTE, UH, 2011.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE, THESE BECOME FINAL WORKED.
JUST A FEW WORDS THAT I THINK I'VE SEEN, BUT THAT ATTACHED TO THIS STATE.
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I REMEMBER IN THE NINETIES HEARING THAT NEW YORK SOLAR SLOGAN, WHEN THEY STARTED SAYING, UM, TO STAY IN LINE AND THE NEW YORK STATE OF MIND.AND IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU MAKE THAT, THAT A JUXTAPOSITION OF THE TWO, BECAUSE NEW YORK STATE, IT'S A VERY FAST PACED.
WE ARE CLOSED DOWN BY 8:00 PM.
WE ARE WE'VE TRADITIONALLY WE'VE CLOSED DOWN BY 8:00 PM.
WE ARE UNIQUE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO, LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US SHUT OUR OYSTERS.
UM, AND WHAT WAS IT, WHAT WERE, WHAT WERE BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR? IT'S IT'S IT IT'S SLOWER.
IT'S UH, IT WAS LOOKING BACK AT, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
I WAS READING SOME KIND OF AN ARTICLE AND THEY WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THEY WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PLANNING OF, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, JUST THE, THERE WAS A VISIT TO DREW BLUFFTON.
THEY WEREN'T STAYING IN BLUFFTON.
THEY WERE KIND OF PASSING THROUGH AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU COULDN'T EVEN, AND I WISH I COULD EVEN REMEMBER THE TIMING OF WHAT THIS, WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT 20 YEARS AGO.
IT WAS PROBABLY MORE LIKE 50 YEARS AGO OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT JUST HOW YOU COULDN'T SEE THE HOUSES AND THE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING WAS SPACED SO FAR APART.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HOLD ONTO FOR ALL OF BLUFFTON, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING HERE.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS A PART OF THAT.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT FIGURE GROUND RELIEF MAP OF HIS, THE HISTORIC BLUFFTON AREA, IT'S NOT THE INFILL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I THINK WE CAN, I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE DENSITY WHERE THE COMMERCIAL IS AND YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO REALLY GIVE THE VIBRANCY TO THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, BUT AT WHAT COST WE LOSE THAT SENSE OF OPENNESS THAT SPACIOUSNESS, THAT SLOWER PACE.
SO IF YOU HAVE TO GO PARK A MILE AWAY AND TAKE A SHUTTLE IN AND WALK AROUND IN OLD TOWN, THIS FEELS APPROPRIATE FOR OLD TOWN.
UM, DO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF PARKING LOTS IN OLD TOWN? NO.
DO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE REALLY DENSE THREE STORY BUILDINGS RIGHT UP ON THE STREET? NO.
UM, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND FEEL LIKE, AND HOW DO WE PROTECT EVEN JUST THAT PIECE OF IT IN POCKETS OF OUR TOWN SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE OTHER POCKETS FOR MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE DO CREATE A DIFFERENT SENSE OF CULTURE, EVEN TO THOSE UNIQUE SENSES, PLACES SENSE A SCALE.
AND I AGREE WITH CHARLOTTE, CHARLOTTE SAID EARLIER, I DON'T WANT ALL OF OUR TOWN CENTERS TO LOOK LIKE OLD TOWN.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM ALL TO, YEAH.
THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CULTURAL BUILDINGS.
ONE OF HIS CHARACTERS IS IT'S ECLECTIC.
I MEAN, EARLY NINETIES WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MILLION DOLLAR HOMES NEXT TO THE MOBILE HOMES AND THAT WAS WHO WE ARE AND THAT'S WHO I HOPE WE ALWAYS ARE.
SO THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE STRUGGLED WITH 15 YEARS AGO WAS NOT HAVING A HOMOGENEOUS NATURE TO ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN.
UM, JUST TO THROW THAT OUT TO, IT'S FUNNY, I THINK WITH A LOT OF THIS COMMUNITIES LIKE YOURS THAT HAVE AN UPTOWN TOWN DISTRICT, OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS LEGACY OF DEVELOP, UM, YOU CAN'T BUILD THAT TODAY.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE HARD THING, RIGHT? UM, A LOT OF THAT IS, UH, UH, IS A GIFT YOU USED THE TERM COLLECT A GUY.
I REALLY LIKE THAT IF WE HAVEN'T USED THAT, THE PLAN, I THINK WE GOT TO, I THINK THE OTHER THING I'M HEARING IN THIS, TELL ME IF I'M OFF, BUT IT'S THIS IDEA OF BALANCE.
THERE'S A LOOK AND FEEL TO THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE FULL DEFINITION HERE.
I THINK, I THINK MY MAIN QUESTION WITH THIS AND THE QUESTION IS STAFF AND BALKAN BALL, WHERE AS WELL, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DEPLOY THIS STATEMENT THROUGHOUT? UM, HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT WITHOUT THAT KIND OF VERY DETAILED DEFINITION? UM, GET, WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT AT THIS, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A FAIRLY, PRETTY LARGE QUESTION.
I THINK THAT COMES UP IN THE WORK AND ONE THAT'S VERY RELEVANT TO THIS CHAPTER.
I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD PACE TO THAT AS WELL.
CAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF AS THE BLUFFTON STATE OF MIND IS THAT IT IS
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SLOWER.UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP AS CONCERNS HAVE TO DO WITH THE PACE OF DEVELOPMENT WITH, UM, THE OVERCROWDING FOR TRAFFIC.
AND SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO BE INTENTIONAL AND SLOWER AND RELAXED, HOW DO WE DO THAT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE CAUGHT UP TO IT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT? BUT I THINK IT GENERALLY BEING SLOWER AND HAVING A GOOD PACE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF BEEN MISSING IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETHING THAT WAS HERE PRIOR TO THAT 53 MILES.
AND A TOTAL SIDE NOTE ON THIS BACK TO THE HISTORY FOR A SECOND, THERE IS NO MENTION OF THE SUCCESSION OAK OR SENATOR RATS CONVERSATION, AND I MISSED IT.
ONE OTHER PIECE OF THIS, UH, YOU ALL TELL ME TO SLOW DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ENOUGH TIMES FOR PEOPLE SECTION AS WELL, BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME REFERENCES AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO CATCH THESE IN, IN COMMENTS.
IF THERE IS THIS SUGGESTION OF AN ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC ACTION, UH, THAT OUGHT TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE, THE AGENDA, A COUPLE THAT, UM, THAT I PICKED OUT, I THINK FOR THIS CHAPTER, TAKE HER THE IDEA OF A LIAISON BETWEEN COUNTY AND STATE PROGRAMS THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A NEW POSITION, BUT SOMEONE THAT I WEAR HAT WHO'S CHARGED PLEASING BETWEEN, UH, THESE PROGRAMS AND GRANTS THAT WOULD REALLY ASSIST SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING UPLIFTED IN THIS CHAPTER.
UH, ANOTHER PIECE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WE, WE, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AT PRESERVING A NUMBER OF STRUCTURES, UH, AND SITES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE TOWN, BUT ARE WE BEING PROACTIVE IN IDENTIFYING THOSE THAT MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UH, HAVE BEEN AFFORDED THAT PROTECTION THAT MAY BE VULNERABLE? UM, WHAT, UH, BEST PRACTICE THAT I ENDED UP AS A RESPONSE TO THAT PARTICULAR, UM, COMMENT IS THIS IDEA OF, AND IT'S THE PLATEFUL TERM, BUT THE ENDANGERED BUILDINGS LIST OR REGISTER, UH, IN MY HOMETOWN, SEVERAL OF THE PLACES WE WORKED, THIS IS A, AN ONGOING, UH, LIST OF SITES THAT, UH, ARE ENDANGERED FOR BELTON, FOR VARIETY OF AGE DEVELOPMENT, PRESSURE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE THAT HAVE HISTORIC VALUE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE, THE LIST CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS.
IT CAN MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION.
UH, IT CAN MEAN THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE, UH, BUT IN TERMS OF HEARING THAT PARTICULAR ACTION THAT, THAT REALLY DID COME TO MIND.
THOUGHTS ON THOSE TWO IDEAS? WELL, AS I SAY, THE TOWN HAS A HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST THAT IS WORKING ON ALL OF THE, UM, GRANTS AND FEDERAL AND PROGRAMS TO HELP AND ASSIST PEOPLE.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND RESOURCES IDENTIFICATION.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND GLEN HAPPENS TO BE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST AND IT'S MAKING ALL THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT FOCUS ON THAT IS PRIMARILY THE OLD TOWN.
AND THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER, AND HE'S ONLY ONE MAN, OF COURSE, BUT, UM, THE QUESTION I THINK THERE SHOULD BE, THE QUESTION SHOULD BE ASKED, SHOULD WE BE LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE 53 SQUARE MILES AS AN EXTENSION OF, OF TAKING A PURVIEW OF HOLISTICALLY, WHAT BLUFFTON LOOKS LIKE, AND IF THERE IS ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE, AND IT'S NOT JUST NECESSARILY BUILDINGS, IT COULD BE SITE HISTORIC SITES, WHETHER IT WAS BATTLE OR, YOU KNOW, THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT PROTECTING.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF ARCHEOLOGICAL FINDS ALL THROUGHOUT BROUGHT BLUFFTON.
SO GLENN NEEDS AN ASSISTANT, YOU DO THE OLD TOWN AND THEN YOU NEED AN ASSISTANT TO DO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROCESS.
UM, I JUST, ONE OTHER WORD THAT I WOULD LOVE TO GET UNDER THE STATE OF MIND.
WHEN I LOOK BACK AT PICTURES OF LIKE CALHOUN STREET, IT'S NOT PERFECTLY ALIGNED TREES ALL THE WAY DOWN.
IT'S, THERE'S A BIG TREE OVER HERE.
IT WAS A RANDOM POULTRY OVER HERE.
AND SO, UM, YOU STILL SEE THAT INFORMAL NATURE IN, AT THE OLD SITES THAT STILL EXIST AROUND TOWN.
AND SOME OF, I THINK IN AN EFFORT TO, FOR TAP
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THE TALENTS FOR HEALTH SAFETY, WHAT YOU KNOW, TO MEET HEALTH SAFETY, WELFARE GOALS.I THINK SOMETIMES WE LOSE SIGHT OF SOME, SOME OF THE MAGIC THAT HAPPENS IN THIS INFORMAL PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO I DON'T WANT, I, THAT'S WHY THAT WORD IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I WANT THAT WE, OUR TOWN THAT ALLOWS EXCEPTION TO THE RULES, NOT COMPROMISE HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, THEY, BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF THE CHARACTER OF PLACE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT TO BRING UP FOR A UDL AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANT IN THIS COMP PLAN, WHICH TRANSLATES TO THE VIDEO.
UH, I CAN GO HERE THIS LAST SECTION AGAIN, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP IS THE OCCUPANCY OF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH AND SEE WHAT I THINK I SAW, UH, IN YOUR COMMENTS, UH, WITH OUR SIMPLE PIECES.
AGAIN, THESE ARE, THESE ARE PIECES OF CLEAR DIRECTION, AND I THINK WE CAN EASILY ADDRESS, UM, UH, AGAIN, NOT SPELLING, NOT GREAT OR REALLY, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIVE PIZZAS WITHIN THE DOCUMENT NEED TO, UH, SPEND A LITTLE TIME AND ADD, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, CONTENT.
UH, ONE THAT I REALLY LIKED THIS IN TERMS OF SUGGESTION WAS JUST THE IDEA OF A TA.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD FOR A CHAPTER LIKE THIS, AND I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP, UH, TO CONNECT BOTH PAST IN THE RECENT PAST, UH, IN, IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITY BUILDING THAT'S GONE ON, UH, OR OFTEN I THINK, AS WE RELATE BACK TO THAT TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ADD NARRATIVE OR WE MAY JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE EFFORTS TO, TO THOSE THINGS THAT AS THEY OCCUR, HOW THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY ROLE.
UM, KYLE, CAN I INTERRUPT REAL QUICK? UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTED TO MAKE A SUGGESTION COMMENT.
SO STATE YOUR NAME AND CAMILLE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE AGAIN.
UM, I MEAN, I LOVE HEARING ABOUT THE HISTORY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY AND IT'S ALL VERY INTERESTING TO ME AND I KNOW IT HAS TO BE IN HERE, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS THE 10 YEAR POINT, AND THIS IS ALL GOOD DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE THEY WROTE THE PLAN, BUT, UM, AND THAT'S ALL GOOD.
AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE, BUT HOW DOES THIS IMPACT WHERE WE GO IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE GIST OF THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 19 PAGES ON THIS ALREADY.
I MEAN, YOU COULD ADD ANOTHER 19, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS, THIS IS ABOUT.
AND WHERE DO WE GO IN THE NEXT 10 YEAR? SO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
I'VE NEVER HAD A JOB WHERE I HAD THAT.
THEY SAID, CARMEN GOT AN UNLIMITED BUDGET AND UNLIMITED HEAD COUNT, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I ALWAYS GOT, I HAD TO JUST JUSTIFY IT AND THEN COME SEPTEMBER, THEY'D SAY, GIVE US 10% BACK AND STILL DO EVERYTHING.
YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO JAIL.
SO MY POINT IS, THERE'S A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF STUFF.
YOU KNOW, I READ IT AND I WAS TRYING TO LIKE, CAN I ORGANIZE THIS A LITTLE BIT? SO IT MAKES SENSE.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS, TAKE THIS.
AND I SAID, OKAY, WELL MAYBE THIS WAS OVER 10 YEARS, THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION ON THE OTHER ONES CAN DO THIS, BUT YOU REALLY GOT TO HONE IN ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
SO LISTENING TO YOU, I CAN HEAR YOU SAY THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE AND THE HISTORY OF OLD TOWN AND SEE WHAT IN THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE PRESERVED AND, UH, HOW NEW BUILDINGS OR, UH, ARE ERECTED.
I MEAN, THAT'S IT RIGHT? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY? SO THAT'S WHY I CAUTION YOU BECAUSE THERE'S A LONG LAUNDRY LIST AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED, BUT MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN.
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO, I SAID IT WAS MY LAST TIME, BUT IT'S NOT.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S WORKING WELL, NUMBER 2, 3, 4 ARE THE TOP ONES, OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON, SMALL TOWN FIELD, COMMUNITY PEOPLE.
THOSE ARE THE TWO, THREE AND FOUR BEST THINGS THAT ARE WORKING AS FAR AS OUR COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED.
AND YET WE HAVE 37 ACTION PLANS IN JUST ONE.
SO I, I, I STILL, KYLE'S STRUGGLING WITH THE BALANCE OF WHAT THE STEERING TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY TOLD US WE NEED AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WELL, VERSUS HOW MANY ACTION PLANS WE HAVE IN THE THINGS THAT ARE STRIKES.
YEAH, THOSE, THOSE ARE ALSO AREAS WHERE THE TOWN HAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF CONTROL IN TERMS OF PROJECTS
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THAT THEY CAN INITIATE, THEY CAN FUND AND THEY CAN GO DO AND MISMANAGED TYPICALLY HERE, UH, IT IN RESPECT, UH, UH, FEEDBACK.UM, I THINK WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR CHAPTER, YOU'RE RIGHT, I MEAN, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EXPAND, GIVE WE'RE TELLING A STORY HERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED A LITTLE EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TELLING THE MOST ESSENTIAL PIECES OF THAT.
UH, AND I THINK ANOTHER THING YOU BRING UP SPAN, WHICH IS QUITE IMPORTANT IN THIS CHAPTER IS, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE SOME PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, ON THAT LIST? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, REASONS YOU SEE SO MANY ACTIONS THAT ARE LIFTED UP IN THIS CHAPTER ONE IS BECAUSE IT'S AN AREA THAT YOU, THAT YOU ALL, UH, EMPHASIZE TREASURE.
UH, IN NUMBER TWO, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, THIS ISN'T MY LIST.
I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS UNDERLINED THESE ACTIONS, POLICIES.
UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BUBBLED UP THROUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THROUGH THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, THROUGH WORK.
WE'VE DONE THE STAFF AND HAVE BEEN ELEVATED.
SO I THINK AS WE'RE REVIEWING THIS, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT'S MADE CLEAR, BUT I DO DEFINITELY BELIEVE WITH MS. CHAPTER, ESPECIALLY WE NEED SOME PRIORITY, I THINK, TO, UH, TO THIS LIST AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF I CAN ADD, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
AND WE ARE AS THE COMMISSION, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A TEN-YEAR GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE REVISITED IN FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE NOT DEFINING DOWN TO THE MINUTIA WHAT THE TOWN'S GOING TO BE DOING NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GIVING A GUIDELINE OR FRAMEWORK THAT PLANNING COMMISSION COUNCIL STAFF CAN PRIORITIZE FROM IN THE FUTURE.
SO I, I, FOR ONE, DON'T HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH HAVING TOO MANY POTENTIAL ACTION ITEMS ON THERE BECAUSE THAT SHOWS HERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO HERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD PRIORITIZE.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T ALMOST BE A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT TO GET TOO NARROW.
AND SO MY COMING INTO THIS IS TO ACTUALLY EXPAND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, NOT THINKING THAT THERE'S ENOUGH IN THERE.
I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY AN IMPORTANT POINT AS WE PROCEED THROUGH THESE FIVE, UH, WORK SESSIONS, UM, TO MENTION BEING A 10 YEAR PLAN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIRECTIONS YOU'D GO WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I THINK YOU CAN BE, UH, EXTREMELY PRESCRIPTIVE ALMOST DOWN TO A DEPARTMENT WORK PLAN LEVEL AND SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO DO A, B AND C HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF IT.
OR THERE'S THE IDEA OF DEVELOPING A, YOU KNOW, A BROAD SET OF POLICIES THAT ARE INTERPRETABLE TIME.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE VALUES REMAINED, THE VISION REMAINS, THE GOALS REMAIN, UH, BUT IT IS YOUR STAFF AS WELL.
NOW WORK TO INTERPRET THOSE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT A FUTURE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK IN A LOT OF THESE AREAS, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE THINKING HERE WITHIN EACH OF THESE FIVE SESSIONS THAT MEMBER, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG THIS WILL BE, UH, WILL BE WITH US.
I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF WHY I'M STRUGGLING WITH IT A BIT IS THAT THIS SECTION FEELS LIKE WE HAVE ALMOST ONE TO THREE-YEAR PLAN, LEVEL OF DETAIL OF ACTIONS WHERE THE OTHER PLANS ARE VERY BRIEF AND PROBABLY TOO BROAD.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THE CONTEXT THAT IT'S A 10 YEAR PLAN, BUT ALSO IF WE'RE TO THIS, WHAT FEELS LIKE GRANULAR LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THE SECTION? I THINK THAT JUST MEANS WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THE OTHERS.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH EACH OF THE, EACH OF THE 10 HERE IS FIVE, FIVE SESSIONS FINDING SOME CONSISTENCY ACROSS THAT.
I THINK WHERE WE LAND, YOU KNOW, IN THE ATMOSPHERE, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THE GROUND WITH EACH OF THESE? I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WITHIN THIS CHAPTER, YOU KNOW, WE DO LAND PRETTY CLOSE TO THE GROUND IS JUST BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, THE AGENCY OF, OF THE TOWN, HOW MUCH YOU CAN, ALL YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO, UH, IN THIS SECTION AND THE NUMBER OF FOLKS YOU HAVE WORKING, UH, ON F TIER THAT HAVE HAD SUCCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF THEM, I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHY YOU SEE SPECIFIC THINGS ON HERE ON THE BOARD, BUT I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT, ALL RIGHT, KYLE, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT TIMING.
SO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER.
CAN WE GO AHEAD AND FINISH WRAPPING UP THIS, PUT YOUR LIST BACK UP.
KYLE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SHARING THIS LIST, THIS DOCUMENT WITH US AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS? YES, I WOULD LOVE TO.
UM, AND AS SOON AS WE COMPLETE THIS MEETING HERE THIS EVENING, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE A FEW NOTES FROM OUR DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO SHARE THIS BACK.
IS IT THE TIMING OF THIS WHERE YOU ON THE LAST MINUTE TRYING TO GET THIS DOCUMENT PUT TOGETHER, OR DO YOU HAVE, WHAT I'M REALLY ASKING IS, DO YOU HAVE THIS DOCUMENT ALREADY SET UP FOR TOMORROW THAT WE COULD BE MAYBE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT BEFORE WE GET TO THE MEETING TOMORROW I'M WORKING
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ON THAT DOCUMENT? I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THAT AS SOON AS, UH, UH, UH, UH, TOMORROW MORNING.IT WOULD JUST HELP ME SO THAT I'M A LITTLE LESS REACTIVE AND A LITTLE MORE THOUGHTFUL GOING INTO IT.
WELL, IF IT'S WITH YOUR PERMISSION, UH, CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE PEOPLE SECTION? IS THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON ULTRA RESOURCES? UM, I JUST WANT TO SEE IF, MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS, COMMENT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, LOOK WHERE ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY ON CULTURAL REMOVING THE PEOPLE AWAY ON COACH? WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP UP CULTURAL.
SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENT ON CULTURAL SITES, COME ON AT THREE MINUTES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAYBE HAVE A COUPLE MORE MINUTES, UM, CONDITION
THE STAFF WILL ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT I AM OBSESSED WITH THE FACT THAT IN THE FIRST TRIAL, YOU CAN NOT FIND A WORD OR, AND YOU CAN BRING SOMEBODY IN FROM
AND I HAVE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND THEN IF CALL IS PRINTED ON THE CHAPTER, MISSED IT.
UH, BUT UH, WE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS HOW THAT MIGHT BE, UM, HOW THAT MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED OR BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE CHAPTER.
AND WE DID, UH, WE DID DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, BUT WE DIDN'T BRING IT UP THIS TIME.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW YOU HAD IT IN YOUR NOTES COUNT, SO IT'S UNDERLINING NOTES AND MATT MUCKRACK JULIA, APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT ABSOLUTELY DRESSED IN OUR, UH, EXTRA.
I KNOW THE BOTTLE CARPETS YOU WANT ELSE.
UH, POPULAR, POPULAR CHAPTER HAD ABOUT 55 COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL IN THERE ABOUT 22% OF THE OVERALL, UH, JUST SOME GENERAL NOTES.
AND AGAIN, THESE AREN'T, THESE AREN'T SPECIFIC TO THIS CHAPTER.
I, I DON'T BELIEVE BUT RELATE TO THE, THE, THE DRAFT, UH, OVERALL.
AND I THINK YOU ALL BROUGHT THIS UP IN OUR VERY FIRST MEETING HERE IN PERSON, BUT THE IDEA OF PLANNING AREA, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT GENERALLY DEFINING WHAT THAT MEANS, UH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S LARGER THAN THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY.
UH, WE NEED THAT TO DO CERTAIN RESEARCH, TO CALCULATE CERTAIN DATA, DO CERTAIN MAPPING, BUT WE DON'T DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB IN DEFINING WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE DRESSED.
UH, ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS THAT, THAT COMES UP THAT I JUST WANT TO, I WANT TO ADDRESS GENERALLY IS THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, OUR HARD TO REACH COMMUNITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TOWN.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A LIST AND THOSE DOWN YOU, YOU COULD COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS OF WHAT I MEAN BY THAT.
AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ALONE, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMUNITY AND HAVING SOME GROUPS THAT ARE HARD TO BRING TO THE TABLE FOR CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ON THE FR TEAM, YOU FULLY TAKE CRITICISM THAT IT, IT, IT IS DIFFICULT.
I THINK WITHIN A PROCESS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIMITED IN TIME AND LIMITED BY CORONA VIRUS, UH, TO BRING EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OR AT LEAST A REPRESENTATIVE OF WHICH TWO TO A PROCESS LIKE THIS, BUT IT, WITHIN THIS CHAPTER, I THINK ONE AREA, AND THEN MAYBE PERHAPS THROUGHOUT THE LARGE, AFTER W WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF IS REALLY, UM, UH, SHOWING, DISPLAYING, UH, MAKING REFERENCE TO THE FULL TAPESTRY OF HUMAN BEINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT LIVED HERE ABOUT BLAH.
IT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL POINT AND A KEY NOTE THAT I TOOK OUT OF SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS WITHIN THIS CHAPTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A HOMOGENOUS COMMUNITY BY ANY MEANS.
UH THERE'S AND WITHIN THAT, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF CHANGE OCCURRING, UH, BOTH IN 2010 AND 2020, AND THE CHANGE YOU CAN ANTICIPATE OVER THE NEXT DECADE AS WELL.
SO I THINK GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, PAINTING THAT TAP STREET IS REALLY CRITICAL, I GUESS, SEWING THE TAPESTRY, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE FULL DEMOGRAPHIC PICTURE OF THE TOWN IS CRITICAL, UH, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS THAT I SEE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT, BUT FOR THIS JUST, JUST AREAS WHERE THERE'S SOME, SOME FREQUENT THOUGHT, UM, ONE DEAL, UH, THAT I SAW THAT I THINK IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IS MAKING A CONNECTION OR A TIGHTER CONNECTION BETWEEN SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC
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CONCLUSIONS AND THE HOUSING, UH, STRATEGIES OR INCLUSIONS AS WELL.UH, ONE THING WE WANT TO SAY IN WORK LIKE THIS IS PEOPLE MUST LIVE SOMEWHERE.
YOU DON'T GROW WITHOUT HOUSING UNITS, OR YOU CAN'T GROW, YOU CAN'T GROW YOUR POPULATION WITHOUT A RELATED PLACE FOR THOSE, UH, THAT POPULATION TO LIVE.
UH, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC RELATION TO AFFORDABILITY.
IT GETS BAKED INTO THIS, UM, WHEN THAT AFFORDABILITY THING CHANGES, WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY CHANGES AS WELL.
SO I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CHAPTER, UM, IS, IS, IS HIT THAT NAIL DIRECTLY ON THE HEAD, BUT MORE BROADLY, I THINK, MAKE A STRONG CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS SECTION AND SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S GONE ON WITHIN HOUSING, PERHAPS EVEN ANDREW, SINCE OTHER SECTIONS, UH, AS WELL.
UH, THERE WAS A REALLY INTERESTING COMMENT THAT I SAW IN THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHO WROTE IT CAUSE IT WAS, UH, UH, IT WASN'T ATTRIBUTED, BUT THIS IDEA OF WHERE ARE THESE FOLKS COMING FROM? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE TALK A LOT ABOUT GROWTH.
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE POLL OF THE REGION AND THE GRAVITY THAT'S HERE.
WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT WHO THESE, THESE FOLKS ARE, UH, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM GEOGRAPHICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE? DEMOGRAPHICALLY? I THINK AS CHANGE OCCURS IN BLUFFTON, WHAT'S DRIVING THAT CHANGE IS, IS OF THESE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING FROM, FROM THE OUTSIDE, UH, IN.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IN THIS NEXT VERSION OF THE DRAFT, I THINK IS, IS GOING TO A LITTLE DEPTH WHERE WE CAN ON FOR THOSE IN MIGRATING, UH, GROUPS, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE? UH, HOW ARE THEY SHIFTING SOME OF THE TRENDS, UH, IN YOUR COMMUNITY? UH, WHAT ARE THEY PAYING FOR HOUSING? ALL THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO IMPACT, UH, SPANNING SAYS THE NEXT 10 YEARS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT, UH, ON A NUMBER OF THE TRENDS WE BRING UP.
UM, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, ITEM C BUILD OUT INVENTORY.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE IT'S BROUGHT UP HERE NOT JUST SAID WITHIN THIS CHAPTER, SEVERAL OTHERS AS WELL IS, UH, HUMAN AND SOCIAL SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS.
WHAT DOES THAT AT WORK LOOK LIKE? UH, IN BLUFFTON, I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AND INDEED WE'LL DO A BETTER JOB OF FULLY FLESHING OUT, UH, THE LIST, THE INVENTORY WHO'S DOING, WHAT ON THE NONPROFIT SIDE, UH, IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND HOW DO THEY RELATE TO SOME OF THE TOWN WORK AND KIND OF QUASI TOWN ARE GREAT THAT, THAT FUZZY ZONE BETWEEN WHAT YOU CAN CONTROL AND WHAT YOU CAN INFLUENCE, UH, OR HOPE TO CONTROL FUTURE OUT THERE.
I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF, OF, OF INVENTORY THAT IN THE PLAN, ESPECIALLY IN THIS SECTION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT, UH, HUMAN NEEDS, SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS, UH, ANOTHER ACTION THAT WAS, UH, SUGGESTED IN THIS, UH, GOES UNDER TWO TO FOUR ASSESS AND IMPLEMENT NECESSARY TOWN, EQUITY, DIVERSITY INCLUSION, AND PRACTICES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS AROUND HERE ABOUT HOW DO WE ACTUALLY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE, SPECIFIC TAILORED WITH THE LANGUAGE HERE AVOIDING, YOU KNOW, I GUESS SOUNDBITE, YOU KNOW, REACTIONS TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT IS, THAT IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY WE'VE HEARD.
I THINK WE NEEDED TO IN THIS ACTION PARTICULAR REVISIT, UH, MAYBE IN, IN, IN WITH STAFF SUPPORT, UH, TALK TO A FEW STAKEHOLDERS WHO WERE VERY HELPFUL IN CRAFTING THIS LANGUAGE AND DETERMINE A LITTLE BIT IN THIS CASE, TICKLERS SOME MORE SPECIFIC STEPS FOR YOU ALL IN HOW WE MIGHT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS, UH, UH, OF THIS WORK SHORT-TERM AND IDEALLY CULTURALLY LONGTERM, UH, LAST THING I WILL SAY HERE, UH, WHICH I THOUGHT I PULLED OUT THAT THAT WAS VERY, UH, IMPORTANT, UH, IN, IN CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WAS A BIT OF A BLIND SPOT WITHIN THE PLAN IS THE IDEA TO BROADEN AND INDEED EXPAND REFERENCES HERE TO THE, UH, DIFFERENTLY, UH, COMMUNITY.
IT OVERLAPS WITH A LOT OF OTHER CHAPTERS, NAMELY TRANSPORTATION, UH, IN MOBILITY, UH, LAND USE, UH, EVEN HOUSING.
SO WHAT I THINK I NEED TO DO HERE IN, IN, IN, IN AT LEAST AT AS INITIATION WHERE IT'S ADDRESSED LATER IN MORE SPECIFIC ACTION, MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT COMMUNITY HERE, THEIR IMPORTANCE, THEIR CONTRIBUTION, UH, AND LASTLY, SOME, SOME SCALE I THINK, UH, OF, OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TOWN.
LET ME, LET ME PAUSE THERE AND CATCH ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, IDEAS ON THESE FIVE ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO KNOW WHERE EVERYONE'S COMING FROM.
YEAH, WELL, IT'S IT, YOU KNOW, AND I, I SAY IT SOMEWHAT IN JEST, BUT I, I, I'M MORE INTERESTED AT NIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF AT ALL THIS PLAYS INTO THIS CHAPTER, BUT I'M MORE INTERESTED.
AND ONCE EVERYONE GETS THERE OR GETS HERE,
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HOW DO WE ASSIMILATE THEM INTO AND HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHAT LUFTON IS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE ALL TRY TO DO WHEN WE GO TO SOMEWHERE NEW WAVERING, THE THINGS WE LIKED FROM BEFORE, AND THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK.YEAH, CHARLIE, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHO THEY ARE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HELP YOU TAILOR HOW YOU COULD HELP THEM UNDERSTAND OUR CULTURE.
UM, MY WIFE HAS JUST SIGNED UP FOR SOMETHING CALLED A BUFORD KELLY SENIOR LEADERSHIP PROGRAM.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS TEACH YOU ABOUT BUFORD COUNTY, ABOUT THE DIFFERENT HISTORIES AND SO FORTH FOR SELECT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY AND GET ACCEPTED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, REGARDING BLUFFTON, AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO START, YOU KNOW, HELPING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BLUFFING IS ALL ABOUT.
WELL, I KNOW WE DO HAVE A, THE BLANK ON WHERE WE'VE SEEN IT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING HERE.
THE MAJORITY ARE NORTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA FOLLOWED BY THE NORTHEAST AND MIDWEST, AS MY WIFE FROM TEXAS SAYS ALL THE TIME WHERE THE OTHER TEXANS SAID, THEY'RE STILL IN TEXAS, BUT YES, SIR, THAT DATA, THAT DATA DEFINITELY EXISTS.
AND I THINK AS PART OF THE REASON I INCLUDE THAT HERE IS IT'S A YEAH, NO IT'S ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S BIG THAT I THINK IS, AS WE TALK ABOUT 10 YEARS ON, RIGHT? WHAT DOES CULTURALLY, WHAT YOU BRING TO THIS COMMUNITY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THIS PLACE? LONG-TERM WHAT ARE THEIR EXPECTATIONS? KYLE? WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC.
IS THAT YOUR DEAL LIVE AT 22 TRAILERS RETREAT? I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM LIKE MYSELF, I MEAN, I MOVED HERE FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO THOUGH.
SO WHATEVER THAT IS FIVE YEARS AGO, CAUSE I WAS SICK OF THE TRAFFIC TAKEN AN HOUR TO GET HOME.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION JOKING BEFORE, BUT LIKE WHY, WHAT IS MAKING WHAT IT'S MAKING PEOPLE COME HERE? IS IT THE STATE OF MIND? IS IT THE WAY OF LIFE? IS IT THE JAW? PERFECT.
AND THE WEATHER AND THE BEACH.
I MEAN, MY, MY WIFE'S FAMILY AND A FEW FRIENDS FROM CLEVELAND, OHIO THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSES AND MOVING DOWN HERE BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THEY WANT TO RETIRE.
SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I SAT THROUGH A MOBILE TOWN HALL MEETING THREE WEEKS AGO AND ONE THING I GOT TO BE, AS I SAID, THE AVERAGE MEDIAN AVERAGE AGE WAS 37.
EVEN THOUGH THE DEMOGRAPHICS I LOOKED AT, IT SAID 41, BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT IT AND LOOKED AT WHO IS HERE, IT'S 40, THE BIGGEST GROUPS ARE 40 AND 45 TO 55, 60 YEAR OLD.
AREN'T, I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND OF KIDS ARE GROWING UP AND THEY'RE RETIRING.
THAT'S WHY THINGS MOVING HERE, BUT I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG.
THAT'S JUST WHERE I WANT TO SAY WELL, AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY WE STUDIED DEMOGRAPHICS AND A PLAN LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS, YOUR DESTINY, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHO'S THERE WHO'S COMING.
I THINK ONE THING WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB IF I SAW SOME NOTES ABOUT THIS THROUGHOUT IS TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE TRENDS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE NUMBER.
SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THE MEDIAN AGE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE 41 37.
I'M NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IS THAT CHANGING? ARE YOU GETTING OLDER? YOU'RE GETTING YOUNGER, RIGHT? UH, MEDIAN MEANS MIDDLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OLDER.
YOU CAN HAVE EVEN MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUNGER.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A KEY THING THAT NEEDS TO LEAD TO HIT ON IN THIS.
OR DO YOU, HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB OF YET.
WELL, IN OH FIVE, THE AVERAGE AGE WAS ACTUALLY 24, WHICH SHOCKED US BACK THEN.
BUT IF YOU ADD 15 YEARS TO IT, YOU GOT WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
I WAS JUST INFORMED TOO, THAT WE DO HAVE A BLOCKED IN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.
UM, SO THERE IS SOME TYPE OF LEADERSHIP PROGRAM TO INCORPORATE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE HERE.
IF I CAN MAKE ONE, ONE OTHER OBSERVATION WHILE HE'S COMING UP.
UM, THE THING THAT, THAT I'M SO FEARFUL OF, UH, AND IT, IT, IT JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO EXPLAIN.
WHEN I FIRST MOVED DOWN HERE, I WAS IN A RUSH.
I WAS STILL LIVING THE WAY I HAD.
AND I REMEMBER VIVIDLY A MOMENT ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER I MOVED DOWN HERE, WHEN I LITERALLY JUST WENT AND LEARNED HOW TO LIVE
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A RELAXED, LAID BACK BLUFFTON HILTON HEAD LIFESTYLE, THAT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN MY EXPERIENCED AND MY FEAR AND I, THIS PLAYS INTO CULTURAL RESOURCES PEOPLE.AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE COMP PLAN IS MY FEAR IS HAVE WE REACHED A CRITICAL MASS WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE, THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THAT KIND OF RELAXATION MOMENT AND LEARN HOW TO LIVE HERE AND HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HELP THAT HAPPEN? AND THAT TIES BACK INTO THE STATE OF MIND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, CHARLIE, IF, IF WE DON'T, THEIR SPEED OF LIVING IS GOING TO OVERWHELM WHAT WE HAVE.
I CAN ALREADY SEE IT IN VARIOUS STORES AND THE WAY PEOPLE DRIVE, IT'S SORT OF LIKE IT'S CHANGING CORVETTE, ANDREW KEEL, 22 TREVOR TREE, WHERE I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN ME.
I JUST STARTED COMING TO THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO ME.
BUT ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT THEY SHOWED, I'M NOT SURE THE AGENDA SHOWED THAT'S POSTED ON THE INTERNET SHOW, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT OTHER THAN GENERAL WORKSHOP ITEMS. IT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT IN THESE WORKSHOPS, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IF IT'S, IS IT, DOES IT ACTUALLY SAY WHAT THIS PEOPLE AND CULTURE, WELL, MY FAULT, IT'S NOT LIKE A BULLET POINT HEADER, AND THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, BUT I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT CLOSE TO.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, TOMORROW'S TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
OTHERWISE, IF I DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME, I MIGHT'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESCHEDULE AND YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING GOOD THAT PEOPLE ARE LEARNING FROM, AND THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CORPORATES IN THE TOWN, BUT THE MOBILE TOWN HALLS, THOSE ARE VERY INFORMATIVE.
YOU GET TO MEET STAFF AS A CITIZEN.
YOU GET TO MEET PEOPLE, UM, FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS COMMITTEES THAT MAY SHOW UP.
AND, AND IT'S A GOOD WAY TO, I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW, WHEN I CAME BACK UP TO SAY, PERSONALLY, WHAT I SEE IS THE PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE OR LIKE MYSELF OVER KIDS ARE EITHER GONE OR KIDS ARE PRETTY OLD.
AND BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, THEY CAN WORK FROM HOME.
SO THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN HERE WITH THE IDEA OF WORKING HERE.
THEIR KIDS ARE PROBABLY ONE OR TWO YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL OR GRADUATING, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING OFF TO COLLEGE.
AREN'T GOING TO BE WORKING HERE FOR THE MOST PART, IN MY OPINION, AND THE HOUSING THAT'S BEING BUILT, EVERYTHING'S 500, $600,000.
I SAW IN THE STEPS HERE THAT THE AVERAGE FAMILY INCOMES LIKE $88,000 IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THOSE HOUSES.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO LIVE OFF THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND I, AGAIN, BACK TO MY TACO BILL AND DAIRY QUEEN COMMENTS, WHO'S GOING TO FILL THESE JOBS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS JOBS IN BLUFFTON.
UM, BUT ANYHOW, THERE ARE A FEW, NOT 400, BUT, UM, IF YOU WANT TO SEND IN COMMENTS FOR TOMORROW'S TOPICS, I WOULD LOVE TO READ THEM.
SO IF YOU WANT TO WRITE IN THERE TOO.
GOING BACK TO, UM, I, I LIKED DELCOR CHAIRMAN DELCOR CHAIRPERSON ANYWAY.
UM, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER.
I WAS LIKE, I HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG IN MY WORDS, TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCOR, AS I TRY TO USE THESE TERMS. SO IS IT HARD? UM, IT'S ONE, I DO WANT TO KNOW WHO'S COMING HERE BECAUSE, UM, AS MR KEEL SAID, IT INFORMS A PRODUCT TYPE THAT WE NEED FOR HOUSING.
AND IT ALSO TALKS THAT ALSO TELLS YOU WHAT AMENITIES AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND WHERE THOSE NEED TO GO.
SO THAT'S WHY THOSE MAPS ARE SO IMPORTANT ABOUT WHERE THOSE POPULATION POPULATION-BASED IS.
THEY'RE GOING, WHAT ARE THE AGE RANGES, ONE OF THE INCOME LEVELS OF THOSE PEOPLE? UM, BECAUSE HONESTLY, WHEN YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WITH NO KIDS AND BIG INCOME IS COMING HERE, THAT'S SMALLER HOUSING TYPE, BUT NOT THE SAME HOUSING TYPE.
THAT'S DESIRED BY A 20 SOMETHING COMING OUT OF COLLEGE WITH NO MONEY, UM, THE AMENITIES AND FACILITIES THEY NEED AND THE HEALTHCARE OR THE, UM, THEY WANT SWIMMING POOLS AND YOGA AND, YOU KNOW, NOT
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NECESSARILY SPORTS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY THEY MAKE SOME OF THEM STILL PLAY BASEBALL, BUT THEY WANT DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECREATION EVEN AS WELL.SO THAT'S WHY THOSE MAPS IN THAT INVENTORY TO ME IS SO IMPORTANT TO SHOW WHO'S COMING HERE MATTERS AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHAT THEY DO CAUSE CULTURALLY, WHAT THE KIND OF RECREATION THEY DO UP IN THE NORTHEAST IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE MIDWEST.
BECAUSE I KNOW IN MIDWEST THEY'RE HUNTING AND FISHING, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ROOM UP IN THE NORTHEAST FOR THAT TYPE OF THING.
ALTHOUGH SOME PROBABLY DO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST DIFFERENT CULTURALLY.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHO'S COMING HERE AND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE ASKING, WHAT THEY'D BE ASKING FOR.
I'D ALSO LOVE TO SEE THE INVENTORY RESULT IN SOME TYPE OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF WHERE OUR GAPS ARE.
LIKE, WHAT PROBLEMS DO WE HAVE SO THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC SOLUTION, BUT WE HAVE, UM, SOME DIRECTION I THINK, MISSING SOME OF THAT INVENTORY OF WHAT PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY OFFERING WITHIN THE TOWN LEAVES US WITH A PRETTY BROAD STATEMENT THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO AN INVENTORY, BUT WHAT HAPPENS ONCE WE DO THAT? W WHERE ARE THE PROBLEMS? WHERE ARE THE GAPS? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO SOLVE THOSE THINGS? UM, I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF MISSING A GOOD FIT FOR IT.
AND YOUR PLAN ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
OH, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT A COMMISSIONER, AND I'M ACTUALLY NOTING THAT HERE AT THE MOMENT.
I THINK HAVING THAT KIND OF THAT WEB NETWORK, IF ONE OF THE ACTION PIECES BASED OFF OF THAT, ARE THERE BLIND SPOTS RIGHT NOW? YOU KNOW, MY INTUITION TELLS ME THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THIS IS SOME ANTICIPATION OF THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE BECOMING TOO.
SO I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO THOSE ARE COMMUNITY, AND PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT IN MIGRATION QUESTION IS SO CRITICAL, YOU GUYS KNOW YOU'RE GROWING, BUT YOU'RE GROWING BECAUSE OF INTEGRATION.
AND WHAT MAKES YOU SPECIAL AS A COMMUNITY IS THAT YOU'RE IN MIGRATION IS HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, LIKE IT HAPPENS IN CENTRAL PIO, UM, OTHER FOLKS COMING OR MOVING AROUND CENTRAL OHIO, OR MAYBE BEING AROUND OUR STATE, YOU HAVE OUT-OF-STATE GROWTH, THAT'S FUELING YOUR GROWTH.
SO I THINK ALONG WITH THAT, YOU HAVE A KIND OF LIFESTYLE EXPECTATION THAT'S COMING IN, BAKED INTO THAT.
AND, UM, I THINK AS WE WORKED SOME OF THAT IN AND MEASURED, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF, UH, THE, UH, UH, NONPROFIT NETWORK OR ANY NETWORK SERPS NETWORK THAT MIGHT BE, THAT WOULD ANTICIPATE THEN SOME SPOTS OR AREAS FOR NEED.
I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I THINK TO, UM, COMMISSIONER DIPAUSE POINT, UM, IT, AGAIN, GAP ANALYSIS, I THINK WOULD BE 10 TENDING TO ACTUALLY FIND ITSELF OR BE LOCATED MORE ON THAT COMMUNITY FACILITY SECTION IN THE HOUSING SECTION.
SO IT WOULD BE USING THE INVENTORY OF THIS POPULATION SECTION TO APPLY IT, TO FIND THOSE GAPS WITHIN THOSE OTHER SECTIONS OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE POINT I, I LIFTED UP THIS EARLY.
IT WAS THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN SOME OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS CHAPTER AND OTHER SECTIONS.
AND YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOUSE AND THERE, I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE, THE, THE BIGGER ONES, COMMUNITY FACILITIES, UH, AS WELL, BUT, BUT ALSO A NUMBER OF OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES, AMENITIES, AND PARKS, UM, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CORE DEMOGRAPHICS.
JUST A FOLLOWUP, SOMEBODY, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE LOFTER AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND, AND THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY DO WITH THE BUFORD LEADERSHIP PROGRAM.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT INVESTOR PROGRAM.
IT SEEMS LIKE A TWO-HOUR SESSION.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EXPANDED? HOW COULD WE TAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM A CULTURAL STANDPOINT AND BRING IT TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES LIKE ANDREW'S OR MINE OR SO FORTH, AND, AND BECAUSE ALL OF COMMUNITIES LOVE TO HAVE SPEAKERS COME IN, UH, COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, DEPLOYING MORE? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THE, UM, THE, THE BUFORD LEADERSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH IS, I THINK IT'S A SIX MONTH THING, AND THAT MIGHT BE TOO, TOO FAR ON THE OTHER END, BUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO HOURS AND SIX MONTHS MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE AND CULTURAL KIND OF EDUCATION FOR, FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT YEAH, BUT CHARLIE, YOU'RE SWINGING TO OFFER, YOU'RE SPEAKING TOMORROW AT A COMMUNITY EVENT AT OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
IF YOU WERE TO TELL THAT SAME GROUP THAT YOU WOULD BRING IN THE BLUSTER AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, I THINK THEY'D BE ALL OVER IT.
AND THERE WAS A GROUP LAST NIGHT THAT THE TOWN'S PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER SMOKED, DUDE, SECOND THING ON
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THAT ANDREW FIELD, 22 TREVOR FREE ON THAT TOPIC, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE AND WHAT I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE NEXT MONTH IS THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THE TOWN SHOULD KIND OF, IT'S HARD TO SAY WITHOUT BEING MEAN OF THE DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS ARE CONTROLLING ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOODS IN NEW RIVERSIDE, NEW RIVERSIDE, I DON'T KNOW, HAMPTON HALL, HAMPTON LAKES, OTHER ONES, BUT THEY CONTROL THE HOA.AND IF, IF YOU GUYS, IF PEOPLE WERE, IF PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO HAVE SAY, LIKE THE BIGGEST MEETING WE EVER HAD IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AS WE SAID, IT WAS A HAPPIER.
SO WE SAID A HAPPY HOUR COMMUNITY, A HAPPY HOUR WITH A SPEAKER FROM THE TOWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND THE TOWN HALL MEETING.
AND A COUPLE OF THOSE PEOPLE, UH, ALMOST LIKE WHAT THE POLICE OFFICER, UH, THE CHIEF MENTIONED, THEY DO, THE BARBECUES, PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP, THEY'D BE THERE, BE THERE, RIGHT.
BUT THEY'D ALSO BE THERE AND LISTEN TO STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
HOWEVER, WHEN THE DEVELOPERS CONTROL THE HOA, THERE'S ONLY TYPICALLY ONE COMMUNITY MEMBER ON THERE.
AND UNTIL THE HOA IS DEVOTED, IS OWNED BY THE COMMUNITY AND HAS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
IT'S ALL THE DEVELOPERS, THEY CONTROL IT AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
THERE'S NO MEETINGS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THESE COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S HARD TO GET TO A MEETING LIKE THIS.
IF YOU'RE WORKING FOR 72 LANG OR A POLICE OFFICER, AND YOU COULDN'T HAVE SAID OUR CENTERS, SORRY, WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY CONFLICTS OR ANYTHING.
ANYHOW, OVER THERE A NURSE, YOU KNOW, FOUR 30 IS ME WHO WORKS FOR HIMSELF.
I CAN DO WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST KIND OF A TIMING THING.
AND I THINK IF THERE WERE BETTER TIMES AND BETTER LOCATIONS, MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN, BUT AGAIN, THE COMMUNITIES DON'T CONTROL THE COMMUNITIES UNTIL THE DEVELOPERS ARE GONE.
AND THE DEVELOPERS REALLY NEVER LEAVE UNTIL IT'S TRULY KNOW IT'S A TOUGH ONE, BUT THEY DO OWN THAT.
THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, BUT YEAH, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE, BUT THERE'S UNTIL THEY GO BANKRUPT.
LIKE ALL THE ONES THAT WORKED TO MYSELF, THERE IS A MULTIPLE TIME.
THOSE LINES OF THINKING REALLY QUICKLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT MINORITY GROUPS AND GETTING DIFFERENT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, I THINK TO ANDREW'S POINT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE OFFER OR TRY OUT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY DIFFERENT EVENT TYPES, UM, DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THAT ENGAGEMENT.
KATIE
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WERE PRETTY MUCH IGNORED OR IT FEELS LIKE, LIKE BEAVER COUNTY AND TOM BLOOD.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AS FAR AS I KNOW.
UM, SO HAVING THOSE MOBILE TOWN HALLS THAT ARE LIKE, I LIVE IN NASHVILLE, SO SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE TO THOSE DONUT HOLES, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN STILL ENGAGE WITH THOSE, UM, MEMBERS, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE DID JUST HAVE ONE AT THE POLICE STATION AND I KNOW THEY'RE MOVING WHAT'S UP.
BUT YEAH, I, I WILL, I WILL SAY THIS.
AND I KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE FEELS THE SAME WAY.
AND EVERYBODY IN COUNCIL FEELS THE SAME WAY WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY ATTENDS AND SPEAKS OR EMAILS US AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE TOWN, WE STILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND I FEEL FOR YOU HERE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ABOUT WELL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH ABOUT A THOUSAND HOMES AND ONE EXIT, AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THREE MORE AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET THERE SOON.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING ALMOST 20 YEARS ENOUGH, AND I JUST HAVE TWO POINTS.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIREES THAT ARE HERE.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIREES IN HERE.
WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT HAVE MOVED IN AND THEY HAVE CHILDREN.
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AND I, FOR ONE, WANTED TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAD MIXED FAMILIES AND RETIREES, BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THE SCHOOL BUS AND I WANT TO BE AROUND YOUNG PEOPLE, KEEP ME YOUNG.UM, AND SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE SCHOOLS FOR THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I TALKED TO THEM, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THE KIDS TO GO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FACILITIES.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF KEEPING THINGS IN BALANCE.
LIKE YOU GOT TO KEEP ALL THE BALLS UP IN THE AIR.
UM, AND THE SECOND THING HAS TO DO WITH, UM, I GUESS, CULTURE.
UM, AS MUCH AS I HEAR THE, UH, THE COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT A WEGMANS AND TRADER JOE'S AND PIZZA, AND ALSO THE STUFF REMEMBER THE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE, THEY ATE IT, BUT THEY WERE, I, I USED TO TELL EVERYBODY THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE IS ONE OF THE MOVING THEY HAD CAME TO MY HOUSE.
SO I MET THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CRAZINESS AND, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I'M A REAL BELIEVER IN LESSONS LEARNED SHOW.
THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITIES THAT WENT THROUGH A LOT OF GROWTH VERY QUICKLY, AND SOMETHINGS DIDN'T WORK SO SOBER.
UM, SO THAT WE DON'T REPEAT THOSE MISTAKES.
SO FAMILIES ARE IMPORTANT AND I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THEM.
AND I JUST ASKED YOU THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT THAT WE KEEP THINGS IN BALANCE.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A GOOD WAY HERE.
OH MY GOSH, THE BEST GROCERY STORE EVER.
I THINK THIS HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL CONVERSATION FOR ME HERE, UH, IN A TEAM.
I THINK ONE THING THAT STICKS OUT, IT'S FUNNY, I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH A COLLEAGUE ABOUT THIS, UM, THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, TURF GRASS, THE DESERT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID THE MIDWESTERN SPRAYING TO PHOENIX WITH HIM THERE? RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND APPLY IT TO WHERE YOU GO.
AND, UM, I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS DEMOGRAPHICS PIECE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW NEWCOMERS, THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WE USE THE WORD SIMULATION, I THINK HERE REAL LEADERSHIP, OR, YOU KNOW, FINDING A WAY INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS RICH AND ROBUST COMMUNITY.
IT DOES SOUND TO ME LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW, IT MAY BE NASCENT, BUT, BUT PROGRAMS ON THE LESS THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, THAT WE OUGHT TO BE LIFTING UP IN THIS.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF THAT MOBILE TOWN HALLS.
I WAS AWARE THAT YOU WERE DOING THOSE AND WAS AWARE OF HOW EXTENSIVE THEY WERE OR THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THAT.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WITHIN THIS PLAN, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AND TO STAFF ABOUT HOW INTEREST THAT, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE, WE UNDERLINE LEFT AND WE CHARGED WITH MORE RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK, IN THIS WORK AND FIND OTHERS TO BE INVOLVED AND LOOK AT SOME BEST PRACTICES, NOT JUST FROM AROUND THE REGION HERE, BUT MAYBE FROM AROUND, UH, ALSO, UH, THE COUNTRY.
UH, AND I THINK ANOTHER FINAL UNDERLINE FOR THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE RELATING THE CONCLUSIONS FROM THIS WORK INTO OUR OTHER, UH, TOPICS.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S CLEAR FROM YOUR COMMENTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M GONNA STRIVE HARD TO DO ADDRESS HERE.
IF I COULD, I DID JUST WANT TO HIT ON A COUPLE OF, UM, COUPLE OF OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'VE USED THIS TERM SUBJECTIVE, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN, UH, THESE COMP UH, CATEGORIES, BUT ONE PIECE, UH, ITEM A I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS ADDING REFERENCE PRIVATE NONPROFIT STAKEHOLDERS.
UH, WHEN WE START TO GET INTO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO SOCIAL SERVICE HAS RELATED TO A HUMAN, UH, HUMAN HEALTH, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
UH, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE START TO LOSE.
I THINK SOME OF THE, THE REAL TIGHT CONTROL THE CITY OR TOWN MAY HAVE OVER OTHER ISSUES, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE LAND USE OR THEY'RE A, YOU KNOW, REGULATORY IN NATURE, MAYBE PROGRAM.
SO I THINK, BUT THEN THIS CHAPTER, ESPECIALLY, IT MAKES SENSE TO, UM, HAVE SOME REFERENCES IN PAPER TO WHO'S REALLY DOING SOME OF THE GOOD, DOING GOOD ACTION, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN THIS, UH, SET OF CATEGORIES OR SET OF TOPICS OR INITIATIVES, UH, RELATED TO A HUMAN DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS, UH, I HEARD, UH, IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND, AND MR. UH, MR. KEEL ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP THERE A SECOND AGO, IS THE FOLKS BEHIND IT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S THAT THOSE CASES, NOT LITERALLY OFFENSE, RIGHT, BUT BEHIND THE PUD WALL, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT BUILD OUT LOOK LIKE? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHERE ARE THE BUILD-OUT THAT MAY HAVE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT SOME AFFORDABILITY? WHAT DOES THE LONG-TERM, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE, UH, IS THERE AFFORDABILITY, QUOTAS, ARE THERE NOT, UM, TAKING THAT TO ACCOUNT YOUR, YOUR COMMUNITY? I MENTIONED THIS SEVERAL TIMES NOW, BUT I THINK YOUR COMMUNITY IS QUITE UNIQUE, UH, IN THE SENSE THAT QUITE, UH, ARCH PORTION, UH, IS, IS PART OF PLANT COMMUNITIES.
SO I THINK UNDERSTANDING WHAT EACH OF THOSE, UH, UH, WHAT EACH OF THE FISH IS THERE AND HOW IT
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RELATES TO THIS THING, THE PRODUCTS, UH, THE TARGETS, UH, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE CRITICAL TO UNDERSTANDING WHO YOU'RE BECOMING GRADING UNITS FOR, WHO I THINK IS THE KEY QUESTION THERE THAT I PULLED OUT OF THAT COMMENT.BUT, UH, ANY OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS OR ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, UM, THIS RICH, UM, AND LET ME DIRECT THIS AT CHARLOTTE CHARLOTTE BLUFF, AND SELF-HELP SEEMS TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY DON'T FOCUS ON JUST THE ONE SQUARE MILE.
UM, HOW MUCH OF THEIR, UM, EITHER GOLD VISION HAVE WE CONSIDERED, OR DID WE HAVE SOMEBODY REPRESENTED FROM BSH THAT PROVIDED INPUT ON CULTURE AND PEOPLE? UM, WE DID HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE SHE'S SINCE LEFT AND HAD TO MOVE.
UM, WE CAN TAKE, I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHATEVER PLANNING MIGHT HAVE TO SEE THAT WE'VE INTEGRATED, UH, POTENTIALLY ANY OTHER STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS AND OURS.
I'M JUST THINKING THAT NOT SPECIFICALLY TAKE THEIR ACTION PLANS, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO FROM A MISSION AND VISION STANDPOINT OR KEY ACTIONS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COULD BE SIMILAR OR APPLICABLE TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK THEY COVER ALL OF BLUFFTON, NOT JUST THE ONE SQUARE MILE, YOU KNOW, TO ADD TO WHAT, UH, HAS SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD IT BE A PART OF THIS PLAN AND DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT WE, WE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DON'T NAME BLUFFTON SELF-HELP PER SE, BUT THAT WE WORK WITH COMMUNITY AGENCIES TO FURTHER THE GOALS.
AND I MEAN, CAUSE BLUFFTON SELF-HELP IS, I MEAN, WE SUPPORT THEM PERSONALLY.
UM, THEY DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THE LITERACY CENTER, THE EDUCATION AND THE TRAINING, THEY HELP PEOPLE HELP THEMSELVES.
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING AND THAT'S KIND OF THE SPIRIT WE HAVE AT BLUFFTON THE TOWN.
SO SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE, UM, BRING ORGANIZATION OR ORGANIZATIONS INTO THIS LITERATURE, INTO THIS COMP PLAN? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE THE TOWN CAN'T DO IT ALL.
AND CHARLIE IS NOT JUST BLUFFING SELF-HELP IT'S GOD'S GOODS AT ST.
THERE THERE'S A HANDFUL THAT ARE REALLY DOING WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BLUFFTON.
AND AGAIN, EITHER THEY, THEY ARE INTEGRATED IN SOME WAY, OR WE JUST LOOK AT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE TO SEE IF WE'RE MISSING ANYTHING.
THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US EITHER WAY.
IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S WORTH A LOOK.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS SECTION OF THE, KIND OF THE LAST CHAPTER, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET NOT ONLY KIND OF THIS INVENTORY, BUT THEN ALSO INCLUDE THEM SPECIFICALLY INTO THAT KIND OF COLUMN.
SO THAT THEY'RE TOP OF MIND, AS WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THESE PLANS IN THE FUTURE, LET'S SAY I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO IF YOU CAN GET THEM OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, THAT'D BE GOOD.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE EXISTED.
THE ONLY ONE I KNOW IS GOODWILL BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING THAT BIG, BIG PLACE OFF BURKE CHURCH OR WHATEVER, UH, 46.
YEAH, TWO, TWO POINTS UP THAT ONE.
THE IDEA HERE OF PULLING THOSE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION, IT TRICKS IN THE BACK OF THE PLANT, BUT ALSO I THINK HAVING THAT FULL LIST IS IMPORTANT IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY.
UM, NOT SO MUCH LIKE YOURS, BUT WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF NON-PROFIT ACTIVITY.
ONE, UH, ITEM IN THIS IS LOOKING AT COVERAGE, LOOKING AT GAPS, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT MAYBE SOME REDUNDANCY THAT MAY BE OUT THERE.
AND SOME OF THE MISSIONS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, AS MR. KEEL THAT MAYBE NOT KNOWING ABOUT SOME OF THEM, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE DOING VERY, VERY SIMILAR THINGS, RIGHT.
UM, THAT COULD, UH, COULD BENEFIT BY KNOWING ABOUT OTHER.
SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT.
SO ONE FINAL ITEM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION HERE ON THE DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION PIECE, UH, PART OF, OF, OF THIS CHAPTER, IT FELT TO ME LIKE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU, ALL COMMENTS WERE REALLY TRYING TO MOVE BEYOND, I THINK, KIND OF THE FACIAL DESCRIPTION, OR I GUESS JUST, YOU KNOW, WINDOW DRESSING COVERAGE IN THIS AREA AND TRY TO GET IT A LITTLE MORE TAILORED.
I THINK IT'S SOME OF THE SUB STEPS, YOU KNOW, FOR HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE PROGRESS HERE.
SO AS WE MOVE INTO THIS, I REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH CHARLOTTE.
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TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK LOOKING BACK AT SOME OF OUR PARTNERS THAT WE ENGAGE THROUGHOUT THIS AND SEE, ARE THERE SOME ACTIONS THAT THE TOWN CAN BE TAKING INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY, I THINK TO ADVANCE THIS PARTICULAR AREA.THAT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY WELL, YOU KNOW, WELL-PLACED WITHIN THIS PEOPLE QUESTION OR PEOPLE CHAPTER, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC IN WHAT YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE ON THIS ITEM? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION? I HAVE NO IDEA.
I HEARD THAT, BUT IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET IT OUT THERE, IT'S NOT LOOK WHO'S IN THIS ROOM, THIS ROOM, RIGHT.
SO HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE OR LET THEM KNOW ABOUT IT? YEAH.
A KEY POINT IS ADDRESSED WITHIN THAT ACTION.
IS, IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU BRING UP AT THE MALL, MR. KEEL? WELL, I, I HAVE TO SAY HISTORICALLY, UM, IN BLUFFTON, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A HEALTHY CULTURAL MIX OF, UM, BLACK AND WHITE, YOUNG AND OLD, UM, GETTING TOGETHER FOR EVENTS AND SO ON.
AND I, THE, THE LATIN, LATIN X COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, YEAH, I THINK WITHIN THIS TOO, AND THIS IS ANOTHER, MAYBE A SUBJECTIVE PIECE FOR YOU ALL TO HELP ME, YOU KNOW, IMPACT WILL JUST SOMETIMES WITHIN THE COMP PLAN, WE INCLUDE POLICIES WERE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION STATEMENTS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT MAY JUST BE ABOUT A WAY OF BUSINESS.
I THINK WITH, AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, YOU KNOW, WRITING IT DOWN, I THINK STATING IT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A SOFT COMMITMENT, UH, IT'S STILL IN WRITING, IT'S STILL IMPORTANT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'LL WORK WITH CHARLOTTE, WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ITERATE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA.
BUT I, I COLLECTED A LOT OF YOUR COMMENTS HERE AND THOUGHT THEY WERE GOOD.
I JUST, I GUESS I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW QUITE YET HOW TO PUT A FINER POINT ON, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT ON, AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL TEST IT BACK WITH, WE HIT THE MARK, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AND KIND OF, WE TOUCHED ON IT EARLIER WITH THE HISTORY.
SO MAYBE IT'S PART OF CULTURAL RESOURCES.
MAYBE IT'S NOT PART OF THIS, BUT I THINK REVIEWING THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING IN OUR HISTORY AND THE PERSPECTIVES THAT WE'RE INCLUDING AND REALLY MAKING SURE THAT IT'S WELL, WE CAN INCLUDE ALL PERSPECTIVES OR EVEN SPECIFIC PERSPECTIVES THAT IT'S NOT, UM, WITH SUCH A BIAS TOWARDS THAT PERSPECTIVE BEING CORRECT.
UM, I THINK WE'RE MISSING A LOT OF THE CONTEXT IN OUR HISTORY SECTION AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGES GENERALLY CONCERNING, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT ARE PROMOTING DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.
SO I WOULD LOVE FOR PART OF OUR MORE COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY TO INCLUDE LOOKING THROUGH, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING NOW, AND EVEN IN OUR, AND MAYBE THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THE POSITION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE PLAN, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING THROUGH THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING IN GENERAL THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, UM, TO MAKE IT HOPEFULLY MORE INCLUSIVE, UM, FOR EVERYONE WHO'S HERE AND NOT JUST ONE GROUP, I THINK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER DEPAUL'S POINT IT'S ABOUT, IT'S NOT JUST THE USE OF THE WORDS, DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION, BUT IT'S ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THEY THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF THAT THROUGHOUT AND HAVING THE CHARACTER OF THIS DOCUMENT REFLECT THAT.
SO IN THAT HISTORICAL CONTEXT, IN THE VOICES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING ON THIS, UM, IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NATURE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE, UH, WANTING TO ACCOMMODATE FROM A RECREATIONAL STANDPOINT OR FROM A, UM, AVAILABLE SPACE OR IT'S THING, IT'S NOT JUST BANNERS UP IN THE DOWNTOWN, CAUSE THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING.
AND I LOVE CELEBRATING, I LOVE CELEBRATING PEOPLE AND I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S TALKING ABOUT CELEBRATING THOSE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, TELLING THEIR STORIES, IT'S THE APPLICATION OF THOSE, OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT MATTERS.
NOT JUST SAYING THE WORDS WE WANT TO PROMOTE DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION DOES THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE COMMUNICATED THAT WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY THAT.
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UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD IN RED IN YOUR COMMENTS AND COMMENTS FROM STAFF.SO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, W WE'LL TAKE A SHOT, WE'LL WORK ON IT, GOT A FEW MINUTES LEFT, UH, SAM AFTERNOON.
UM, I DID WANT TO HIT ON A COUPLE OF SMALL ANIMALS, NOT SMALL, IT'S SIMPLE.
I THINK ITEMS THAT FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR NOTES AND COMMENTS, UM, OH, W W UH, ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS AND POPULATION IS WITH PROJECTIONS AND FORECAST.
AND I THINK, UH, MS. PATTON MADE THIS POINT EARLIER IN OUR PREVIOUS CHAPTERS, MAKING SURE SITE TAKE SHIP OR A PATHWAY TO WHERE A NUMBER IS COMING FROM.
UH, I WOULD WANT READERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS FORECAST IS BASED ON, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY CAST CHANGE WITH TIME WITH DIFFERENT INVESTMENT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
SO I THINK THAT'S AN AREA WHEREVER WE GOT NUMBERS.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CITATIONS ARE CLEAR AND IT'S SOMEWHAT CAN REPEAT OUR RESEARCH, UH, FUTURE.
I ALSO NOTICED THIS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IT'S ADDRESSED IN OUR, IN OUR NEXT, UH, VERSION, UH, WE'RE RELEVANT.
I REALLY WANT TO TRY TO INCLUDE, I THINK, TEMPORAL COMPARISONS, MEANING YOU'RE AT NUMBER NEXT DAY, BUT WHERE WERE YOU 10 YEARS AGO? YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT BE NOW? UM, SO THOSE, THOSE REFERENCES, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THIS AND, AND, AND WILL BE, UH, IN OUR NEXT, UH, EXPERT, UH, DOCUMENT.
AND I THINK THE LAST PIECE IS ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS PIECE AS WELL, WITH OUR INTRODUCTION STATE, THAT VERY FIRST STATEMENT WE MAKE ABOUT THE CHAPTER.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES FRAME, UH, CORRECTLY COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE COUNT WITHIN THIS SECTION, I THINK AT SOME AREAS A LITTLE BIT LESS HERE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS HERE AND HOW IT'S CONNECTED TO OTHER TOPICS.
AND I WANT TO EVOLVE THOSE STATEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE, ARE, THEY'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF ECHO.
WE HEAR THE ECHO A LITTLE BIT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, LARGER, SMALL THOUGHTS COMMENTS, UM, AROUND THIS PEOPLE'S SECTION, WE COULD TALK ABOUT ANYONE COMMENTS, PUBLIC CHECKING TO SEE.
THIS SECTION HAD A LOT COMMENTS, BUT I THINK THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD ALIGNMENT BETWEEN YOU ALL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE NEXT VERSION, UH, SOME OTHER SECTIONS THAT WE'LL GET INTO, YOU KNOW, MOVING THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS, UH, THERE'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH THAT WE NEED TO WEIGH OURSELVES THROUGH.
BUT I THINK HERE THE DIRECTION FOR ME AT LEAST WAS FAIRLY CLEAR.
I DO HAVE, UM, ONE OTHER THOUGHT ACTUALLY, UM, I WAS JUST TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT, I WAS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TODAY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED, IT WAS A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT COLORS OF GREEN, BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE COLORS BEING UNDEVELOPED OPEN SPACE.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT, UM, THAT FUTURE LAND, THAT LAND USE MAP THAT CONNECTION WITH IT AND LOOKING AT JUST HOW MUCH OF OUR LAND MASS IS PROJECTED TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
AND THESE ARE PDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PACE OF DEVELOPMENT AND PALMETTO BLUFF IS A QUARTER DEVELOPED.
THE REST OF THAT STILL HAS TO BE EXPANDED.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS POPULATION SECTION IN SPECIFIC IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT HAS OCCURRED, BUT THERE ARE SECTIONS THAT ARE SET TO EXPERIENCE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED THE, UM, RIGHTS TO DEVELOP.
AND SO I, I KIND OF THINK IN THIS POPULATION SECTION, WE NEED TO BE MAYBE BETTER DEMONSTRATING THAT SHIFT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING, UM, IN BLUFFTON.
AND I THINK WHEN WE CAN DO OUT THE DIAGRAM, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE SQUARE MILE SQUARE MILES WHERE YOU MAY GROW, YOU WILL GO, RIGHT, BUT YOU WON'T GROW SAME EVERYWHERE.
THERE'S AREAS THAT, UH, HAVE SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY, UM, REMAINING, UM, SOME OF WHICH HAS ALREADY ENTITLED.
UH, SO I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO PROBABLY MOST EFFECTIVELY IN A MAP OR DIAGRAM IS LAY THAT OUT ON PAGE TODAY AND TEACHER WHAT THAT,
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UH, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN DESTINY EITHER.SO I THINK YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S UNDERLINED HERE THAT, UH, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GROW BY X.
DOES THAT MEAN YOU WILL GROW BY X? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CORRECT.
I AM THE FACILITIES PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION PERSON FOR THE BEAVER COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I CAME AT CHARLOTTE TEMPTATION AND I CAME AT NIGHT JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE FORMAT WAS THINKING THAT COMMUNITY FACILITIES WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE I NEEDED TO TALK.
SO, UM, I MADE A COUPLE OF NEWS AND, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS TOUCH ON SO MANY THINGS.
WE TOUCH ON PEOPLE WE TOUCH ON HOUSING NEEDS BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR TEACHERS.
WE TOUCH ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS I'M TRYING TO, AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVES ON YOUR STEERING COMMITTEE.
I THINK THERE WERE PRINCIPALS AND SOME OTHER FOLKS.
SO I KNOW YOU'VE HAD THAT INPUT AS PART OF YOUR PROCESS, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE HERE AT THIS PART OF KIND OF FINALIZING THINGS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
AND I HATE TO SAY, I HAVEN'T READ IT ALL.
SO WE JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT PAGES I WISH I HAD DONE, AND I DIDN'T TAKE IT ON VACATION FOR MY PLEASURE READING, BUT ANYWAY, WE WERE TALKING FUTURE LAND USE OUR BIGGEST, NOT OUR BIGGEST, BUT ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT FACILITIES IS AVAILABLE LAND AND BEING ABLE TO FIND THOSE PARCELS THAT EXIST CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR FUTURE SCHOOLS.
WE'RE TALKING ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 100 ACRES.
IF WE WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE OF WHAT DO WE NEED.
UM, AND OUR CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT STAYS A FOCUS FOR EVERYBODY WHO DOES PLANNING FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE TOWN.
AND BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE DONUT HOLES THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THOSE THINGS MAKES IT CHALLENGING AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE NEED TO BRING OUR CONVERSATION IN ON.
IT HAS BEEN THERE SOMEWHAT, BUT I WANT TO GET THAT THEY'RE PEOPLE JUST COMING, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE HAVE SOME DEMOGRAPHIC STUFF.
I KNOW I'VE PROVIDED SOME OF THAT TO CHARLOTTE.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T READ YOUR DOCUMENT COMPLETELY.
I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED, BUT CERTAINLY WE SEE ANECDOTALLY PEOPLE COMING FROM EVERYWHERE FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS.
UM, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, THEY CAN COME HERE NOW BECAUSE THEY CAN REMOTE WORK REMOTELY.
SO THEY MIGHT BE WORKING FOR A COMPANY IN ARIZONA, BUT THEY CAN LIVE HERE AND ENJOY OUR STUFF.
UM, SO, UM, I WAS KIND OF LOOKING TO SEE WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT FROM US AS PART OF MAYBE TOMORROW'S LIKE CONVERSATION AND HOW WE MIGHT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR, YOUR OVERALL PLANNING HERE.
UM, BUT MY CONCERN IS FACILITIES NEEDS AND THE FUNDING FOR THOSE FACILITIES SEPARATELY AND CAROL YOU, AND I'VE BEEN FRIENDS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE YOU AND I KNOW THE REST OF THE COMMISSION DOES BECAUSE YOUR INPUT HELPS US TREMENDOUSLY.
UM, WE'RE IN A FRUSTRATING SITUATION IN THIS STATE WHERE WE CAN'T HAVE SCHOOL TAXES FOR OPERATIONS ON PRIMARY PROPERTIES AND YOU, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ISSUES, LETTERS FOR COMMUNITIES SAYING WE HAVE THE CAPACITY.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO BITE IN DENYING THE COMMUNITY.
AND YET WE COME AND SAY OUR SCHOOLS ARE FULL.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG VICIOUS CIRCLE.
AND PLEASE KNOW, I MET, I'VE BEEN DYING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU THIS.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT SOME THREE MINUTE COMMENT, PLEASE KNOW, WE HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WE FEEL IT.
AND, AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN LEGALLY TO, TO HOLD THESE DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE, TO, TO HELP THEM WITH THE SCHOOLS.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MOVE HERE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SCHOOL SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE FUNDED.
SO I'D READ UP ON AT 3 88, CAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S AT THE CHANGE FUNDING FORMULA OR HOW WE GET TO BUILD SCHOOLS.
UM, AND I'M NOT THE FINANCIAL EXPERT.
I CAN'T TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT YES, RIGHT NOW OUR FUNDING MECHANISMS, BASICALLY WE ISSUE IMPACT FEES AND WE CAN DO BOND REFERENDUMS. AND SO, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
OUR PLAN SAYS THAT THE 2021 BEAVER COUNTY DISTRICT PLAN SEES A BALANCED FORECAST OF STUDENT POPULATION GROWTH THROUGH 25, 26.
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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? FROM WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? IT SAYS BALANCED POPULATION GROWTH THROUGH THE 20 25, 20, 26 SCHOOL YEAR.AND I'M UNCLEAR IF THAT MEANS THAT THIS IS SAYING THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE ADEQUATE OR WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF OUR NEED? AND IS THAT, THAT PHRASE IS IN YOUR DOCUMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN'T, I HAVEN'T READ IT YET.
I WILL DO THAT HOMEWORK BEFORE TOMORROW.
AND IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO PROVIDE A LETTER THAT SAYS EITHER WE CAN PROVIDE FOR ANY STUDENTS THAT COME FROM NEW NEIGHBORHOOD OR WE CAN'T, BUT THAT'S ALREADY DONE IT BECAUSE THAT COMES AT THE PUD LEVEL, NOT AT EACH INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT LEVEL.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SEEN ME SEVERAL TIMES AT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.
AND THERE'S A GENERAL STATEMENT.
I'LL SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE ARE PRETTY MUCH NOT ALL ARE AT CAPACITY, BUT MANY ARE OVER CAPACITY AND THERE'S NO ADJUSTING THAT TO MAKE.
AND YEAH, WE ENDED UP BEING STUCK BECAUSE THERE'S A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT SAYS THAT WELL, THAT WAS FROM LONG.
SO WHEN A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WERE MADE, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL GET UPDATED FOR EACH ONE.
I DON'T THINK THE NEW LETTER SAY YOU CAN'T THERE'S FUNDING FOR, I'M NOT SURE IF THE ONE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE 27TH IS THAT IT USUALLY COMES OUT OF OUR OFFICE AND WE HAVEN'T WRITTEN DOES THE SCHOOL, I'M SORRY.
DOES IT KNOW WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE, UH, LIKE PROJECTIONS FOR, WE DO FIVE-YEAR PROJECTIONS, BECAUSE ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF GUESSING, CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO HAVEN'T BEEN BORN YET.
IS THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IN SOME CAPACITY THAT WE CAN, WE HAVE A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN AND YOU CAN FIND THAT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE, UM, AND I CAN PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION WITH THAT.
UM, IT GIVES A DISTRICT-WIDE IT BREAKS IT DOWN BY CLUSTERS AND THEN BY INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS BASED ON THEIR CURRENT ATTENDANCE ZONE, UM, COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE TRIED TO DO TO MANAGE THE GROWTH AND HOW IT'S OCCURRING IS INSTEAD OF REZONING, EVERY TIME SOMETHING GROWS, WE HAVE SORT OF CREATED DONUT HOLES AND REZONE A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY ON THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA TO A SCHOOL THAT HAD ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH.
SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT AS ATTENDANCE AND MATCH, YOU WILL SEE THEM JUST KIND OF LIKE THE TAIL.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE STUDY.
SO KIDS DON'T GO TO THE SCHOOL THAT'S NEARBY THEIR HOUSES BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION'S WELL, THAT IS CORRECT.
WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT, UM, AND IS THERE A PLACE FOR ME TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS? IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER IN RECENT HISTORY THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN LIFTING GROWING REALLY FAST AND THE SCHOOLS ARE FULL OR YOU FOR THE CITY OF BUFORD AND HILTON HEAD DON'T HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.
SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE GETTING BOND REFERENCE.
IS THERE ANYTHING, IS THAT STILL AN ISSUE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING BEING DONE TO RECONCILE THAT? UH, SO YES, IN TERMS OF STUDENT POPULATION HILTON HAD, HAS BEEN SORT OF ON A VERY SLOW, SLOW DECLINE, UM, NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY KIND OF IN THAT SAME BOAT, ANYTHING COULD CHANGE.
WE DO SEE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING IN NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY.
DO YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF MOVING AROUND ON HILTON HEAD? THINGS CAN ALWAYS CHANGE FOR STUDENT POPULATIONS.
HOUSING THAT GREATLY AFFECTS THAT.
UM, BLUFFTON HAS BEEN OUR MAIN AREA OF GROWTH FOR THE, LET'S SAY I'VE WORKED FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SINCE OH SEVEN.
UM, WE HAD PROBABLY HALF AS MANY STUDENTS IN MOBILES AS WE HAD IN THE BUILDING AT CERTAIN SCHOOLS AT THAT TIME.
AND OUR PUSH WAS TO GET EVERYONE OUT OF MOBILES.
WE'RE QUICKLY GETTING STUDENTS LIKE
UM, AND SO OUR, OUR BIG GROWTH AREA IS BLUFFING.
UM, AND ACTUALLY I, YOU KNOW, OUT IN THAT MAY RIVER AREA.
SO, SO THEN GETTING THE BONDS APPROVED FOR NEW SCHOOLS HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE OTHER TWO AREAS, LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
AND THAT'S A WHOLE BIG OTHER TOPIC.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME THAT, UM, WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH THE LAST ONE
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WE PUT TOGETHER, THE BOARD PUT TOGETHER FIRST A COMMITTEE WHO LOOKED AT DISTRICT-WIDE ISSUES, UM, SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON OR NEWER SCHOOLS IN NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY AND THEN HILTON HEAD OR OLDER, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAN JUST CAPACITY AND BUILDING NEW SCHOOLS.THEY NEED MAJOR RENOVATIONS, THEY NEED UPGRADES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THE BOARD HAD A COMMUNITY COMMITTEE THAT LOOKED AT ALL THOSE ISSUES, UM, AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR $629 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS.
UM, THE BOARD APPROVED A BOND REFERENDUM FOR 344 MILLION OF THAT OUT OF THE 6 29.
SO THERE ARE STILL LOTS OF PROJECTS DISTRICT-WIDE AND I THINK THAT BIG DISK, UM, UH, COUNTY-WIDE THAT BIG COUNTY WIDE APPROACH TO THAT MADE THIS MOST REFERENDUM, RECENT REFERENDUM SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE NEEDS EVERYWHERE.
IT'S ABOUT ALL THE STUDENTS' NEEDS EVERYWHERE, BUT BLUFFTON IS BIGGEST CONCERN IS, ARE SCHOOLS ARE NEWER, IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE.
IS THERE AN, THIS MAP IT MAY BE ANSWERED BY THIS MASTER PLAN.
IS THERE SOME METRIC THAT SHOWS HOW MANY KIDS ARE RIDING BY BUS VERSUS HOW MANY KIDS ARRIVING BY SCHOOL DROP OFF AND THE PARENTS DROPPING THEM OFF? UH, THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR FACILITIES MASTER PLAN THAT ACTUALLY COVERS THE NUMBERS MIGHT GET JUS I'M CURIOUS.
CAUSE IT'S SAID, I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A DRAMATIC IMPACT TO OUR STREET, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'VE TALKING ABOUT KIDS GOING ACROSS TOWN TO GET TO SCHOOL.
UM, SO THERE'S NO SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL REALLY, WHICH IS ONE THING WE WANT TO HAVE, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE, BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS CAN'T ACCOMMODATE IT AND YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR WE'VE GOT SIDEWALKS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE THREE MILES FROM YOUR SCHOOL, BUT THAT DOES MEAN THAT MORE THAN LIKELY MOM'S PROBLEMS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
AND SO I JUST, WHEN I GREW UP THAT WASN'T THE CASE, BUT THOSE, ALL OF THOSE BE PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL CREATES SO MUCH IMPACT ON OUR ROADS.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT COUNTY WATER AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT ON MINE.
AND I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE KIND OF WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WHAT, BECAUSE TO ME THAT IS A FACILITY THAT IS A PART OF OUR FACILITY'S NEEDS.
UM, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD MORE SCHOOLS CLOSE TO THE HOUSES WE'RE GOING TO, AND WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHIFT TO LESS CARS OR BUSES.
AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? I MEAN, I THINK THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A SHIFT THAT'S POTENTIALLY REASONABLE IN THE NECK, YOU KNOW, JUST START TALKING ABOUT HAPPENING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
THAT'S WHY I'M CURIOUS ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY OFF BASE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THE BUS TO SCHOOL.
I GOT A DRIVER'S LICENSE, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS LOCATION, MICROSOFT RILEY RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE SOFTBALLS, BUT THEY GO TO NOWHERE IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
SO EVEN IF YOU DO LIVE IN OLD TOWN, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A SAFE WAY TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
IT'S ON PEOPLE DROP THEIR CHILDREN OFF.
CAUSE THEY'RE ON MY WAY TO WORK.
OR I CAN PROBABLY PULL TOGETHER MAYBE SOMETHING QUICK.
I'M NOT SURE WHO I'D GET IN TOUCH WITH.
BUT WE DID HAVE A WIN BACK IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, MID TWO THOUSANDS SWARM.
WE GOT PATHWAYS AND CROSSING GUARDS AND EVERYTHING HAD ON, BUT WALTER, SO 1200 HOMES CAN DO IT.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO MORE OF IT.
THE BLUFFTON CAMPUS HAS MORE STUDENTS WHO, WHO DO RIDE THEIR BIKES.
AND I THINK RED, CEDAR, I CAN FEED IN THAT COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE.
THEY HAVE A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS.
I DON'T THINK PRITCHARD VILLE DOES.
JUST AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ADJACENT AND YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, CROSSING OVER THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE OUT THERE.
WELL, AND THIS FALL, UH, UM, IT'S TOTALLY SLIPPING MY MIND, THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL ACROSS FROM HAMPTON LAKE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK FROM, HAVE TO LIKE OVER THERE BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF BIKES.
THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER OF KIDS THAT RIDE BIKES.
WHICH SCARES THE HECK OUT OF ME CROSSING THAT ROAD.
I THINK I'VE GOT SOME MARCHING ORDERS.
AND AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK OR WHAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO HAVE US CONTRIBUTE TO THIS CONVERSATION.
SO YOU'RE MEETING, YOU'RE THE EXPERT COMING IN WITH THE FACILITIES SO, WELL, I CAN BRING MORE EXPERTS.
AND SO IF YOU WANT MORE ACADEMIC PEOPLE THAT I CAN BRING THEM ALONG.
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THAT CROSSOVER LIKE ASK A QUESTION THAT MIGHT BE FOR STAFF.CAN WE GET AN UPDATE TOMORROW ON WHERE EVERYONE STANDS ON THE LATEST ROUND OF IMPACT FEES FROM BEAVER COUNTY? THEY WERE NOT ADOPTED, I BELIEVE UNLESS, BUT IN FACT HE'S PROPOSED BY FOR COUNTY AND THEN LOTS OF JURISDICTIONS HAVE NOT YET ADOPTED THEM.
I WOULD JUST LOVE TO KNOW AS PART OF THE SCHOOL DISCUSSION WHERE OH, BUFORD COUNTY REPEALED THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID OF A LAWSUIT.
SO THEN WE DOING INSTEAD, I THINK IT'S DEAD.
SO THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR WHATEVER THE DOCUMENT IS.
THAT'S REFERENCED IN THE SCHOOLS SECTION ON PAGE ONE 60 WAS THAT PLAN DEVELOPED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACT WILL BE PASSED.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WHAT DOES THAT STATEMENT MEAN? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FROM KYLE OR DOWN STAFF, BUT ABOUT THE POPULATION GROWTH BEING, UM, BALANCED.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE GROWING AT THE SAME PACE AND THUS, WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY.
I JUST MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THAT, WHAT'S THE ANALYSIS BEHIND THAT, UM, DATA POINT, CHARLOTTE, I TRUST YOU TOOK NOTES.
I'M HAVING A REAL HARD TIME HEARING EVERYONE.
I APOLOGIZE ON THAT LAST COMMENT.
LYDIA WAS TALKING ABOUT PAGE ONE 60, THE SCHOOLS AND EDUCATION AND KIND OF DEFINING OR WHERE DID THE INFORMATION OR WHAT DOES BALANCE MEAN? YES.
WHERE DID THAT INFORMATION COME FROM AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT FUTURE THE TEAM? I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME CLEAR DIRECTION HERE, UH, IN THESE INITIAL FIRST TOPICS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME.
AND TWO FULL HOURS IS A PRETTY GOOD GIFT TO ME.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP CHARLOTTE WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH, UH, THIS NOTES DOCUMENT, UH, THAT I'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER ON THESE FIRST TWO TOPICS.
AND THE COMMENT FROM EARLIER, WE'D LIKE TO F UH, TO, TO PREVIEW OUR DISCUSSION, UH, TOMORROW.
UH, I'D LIKE TO ROUND THAT OFF THIS EVENING, IF I CAN GET THAT OVER TO YOU, BUT AT THE LATEST FIRST, UH, IN THE MORNING FOR OUR DISCUSSION ON TRANSPORTATION, UH, IN COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK CAROL FOR PREVIEWING.
SOME OF THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, UH, IN THE SAME ROOM, I THINK, UH, TOMORROW AS WELL.
BUT, UH, BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS DISCUSSION, ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS FOR PEOPLE OR FOR CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT, THAT OUR TEAMS SHOULD CONSIDER? THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ASKING ANYTHING.
HELLO? WHAT IS HAPPENING? WE CAN HEAR AND SEE YOU.
I'M SORRY IF YOU'RE AFFIRMING WHAT I'M SAYING BY NODDING.
I'M NOT GETTING THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE ALL GOT OUR QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS.
WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW AROUND TWO AND THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.
HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR EVENING AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TOMORROW.