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EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE HAVING FUN.
UM, WE HAVE A BUSY DAY TODAY, UM, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.
UM, WE HAVE ONE CHANGE IN, IN THE BOARD.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN CAROLYN CASTLE IS TAKING THE SEAT OF DAVID
UM, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TODAY, WE HAVE MS. JULIANA SMITH WHO IS GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE ONLINE CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
I'M, I'M EXCITED TO GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES ON SOME PRETTY IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
I'LL BE DISCUSSING THIS MORNING, THE UPDATED SEA LEVEL RISE PREDICTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF NOAH THIS PAST YEAR.
AND I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE RESILIENCE EFFORTS THAT BUFORD COUNTY IS PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE COMPLETED AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UNDERGOING CURRENTLY.
SO WE'LL GET STARTED FIRST WITH OUR, WHAT, LET ME GET EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE WITH THE TECHNICAL SEA LEVEL RISE REPORT THAT CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY.
THIS REPORT HAS UPDATED PREDICTIONS FOR SEA LEVEL RISE OVER THE NEXT 28 YEARS.
SO OUT TO THE YEAR 2050, WHAT THE REPORT DOES IS IT BREAKS DOWN AVERAGES FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY THEN GOES INTO EIGHT REGIONS OF THE COUNTRY, AND THEN I'VE TAKEN IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER LOOKING AT SOME MORE HYPERLOCALIZED DATA FROM LOCAL TIDE GAUGES.
SO WE'LL START FIRST WITH THE AVERAGE OF THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE GLOBAL AVERAGE, WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE AVERAGES ARE GENERALIZATIONS.
THE UNITED STATES EXPECTS TO SEE BETWEEN 10 TO 14 INCHES ON AVERAGE OF SEA LEVEL RISE.
BY THE YEAR 2050 HERE IN THE SOUTHEAST, WE EXPECT TO SEE MORE THAT'S 12 TO 19 INCHES BY THE YEAR 2050.
SO OVER THE NEXT 28 YEARS, WE'LL SEE ABOUT A FOOT TO A FOOT AND A HALF OF SEA LEVEL RISE.
BUT FOR OUR PLANNING PURPOSES, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON MORE LOCALLY HERE IN BUFORD COUNTY.
SO FORTUNATELY NASA HAS TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO TAKE ALL OF THE TIDE GAUGES THAT NOAH HAS IN THE COUNTRY WITH OVER 30 YEARS OF DATA AND PREDICT BASED ON OBSERVED DATA AND THE KNOWN TRENDS OF SEA LEVEL RISE.
WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE AT EACH TIDE GAUGE FOR BUFORD COUNTY.
WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN NOAH TIDE GAUGES.
OUR TIDES ARE PREDICTED USING TWO VERY CLOSE BY TIGHT AGES.
SO THOSE ARE THE FORT PULASKI TIDE GAUGE IN SAVANNAH AND THE CHARLESTON HIGH GAUGE.
SO WE WILL, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DATA IN ORDER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE LOCALLY WHEN I CAN GET MY MOUSE BUTTONS.
RIGHT? SO THIS IS INFORMATION FROM THE FORT PULASKI TIDE GAUGE.
I THINK THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT PIECES ON THIS SLIDE ARE THE LINE CHART THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND THE ANTICIPATED PREDICTIONS FOR 2050.
SO THAT LINE CHART IS SHOWING US DATA OF OBSERVED TIDES THAT HAVE BEEN COLLECTED OVER THE PAST A HUNDRED YEARS.
WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT OVER THE LAST A HUNDRED YEARS, WE HAD A FOOT OF SEA LEVEL RISE IN FORT PULASKI BASED ON THE DATA OBSERVED THERE.
SO, SO SEA LEVEL RISE IS OCCURRING.
AND WHAT WE KNOW BASED ON THIS DATA AND BASED ON KNOWN TRENDS OF SEA LEVEL RISE, IS THAT WE WILL SEE ABOUT WHAT THE SOUTH EASTERN REGION WON'T SEE.
SO 12 TO 2020 INCHES OF SEA LEVEL RISE OVER THE NEXT 28 YEARS.
I THINK THE BASIC TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS WE'LL SEE THE SAME AMOUNTS OF SEA LEVEL RISE WE'VE SEEN IN A HUNDRED YEARS OVER THE NEXT 28 YEARS.
THE CONSERVATIVE END IS ONE FOOT.
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE CARBON EMISSIONS SCENARIOS WILL END UP BEING.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LIVED THOSE YEARS YET IN CHARLESTON, WE WILL, WE SEE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PREDICTIONS HAPPENING THERE.
SO CHARLESTON IS DIFFERENT IN THAT.
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SEA LEVEL RISE OVER THE PAST A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT ONE FOOT, ONE INCH.SO THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THEY ANTICIPATE SEEN BETWEEN 12 TO 20 INCHES OVER THE NEXT 28 YEARS.
NOW THESE TIDE GAUGES ARE USED TO PROTECT OUR TAILORED TIDE SCHEDULES HERE IN BUFORD COUNTY, SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE OUR OWN NOAA TIDE GAUGE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO USE THEM TO KIND OF EXTRAPOLATE WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE HERE IN BUFORD COUNTY.
SO I THINK WE CAN KNOW IT'LL BE WITHIN THAT RANGE, 12 TO 20 INCHES AND BEAVER COUNTY OF SEA LEVEL RISE OVER THE NEXT 28 YEARS.
NOW WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT US BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER HERE IN BUFORD COUNTY.
WE ARE 50% SALT MARSH AND WE ARE AN ADDITIONAL 16% FRESHWATER WETLANDS.
SO PRETTY MUCH RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WE CAN EXPECT SURFACE FLOODING.
WE CAN EXPECT MARSH MIGRATION.
WE CAN EXPECT SALTWATER TO INTRUDE IN AREAS.
WE AREN'T EXACTLY CLEAR ON WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR FRESHWATER SYSTEMS, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT HERE MOMENTARILY, BUT WE DO KNOW TO EXPECT MORE FLOODING AND WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN AT THE FORT PULASKI THAI CAGE, HIGHER RATES OF FLOODING.
SO WHAT THAT BAR CHART SHOWS YOU AT THE BOTTOM ARE THE NUMBER OF FLOOD DAYS EVERY YEAR, SINCE THE 1930S, WHEN THIS TIDE GAUGE WENT ONLINE, RED ONES ARE 2020 IN 2019.
AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THOSE YEARS, TWICE AS MANY FLOOD DAYS AS ANY OF THE PREVIOUS DECADES AND FLOOD DAYS, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, IT IS CONSIDERED A FLOOD DAY.
WHEN THE TIDES GET 9.2 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER, LOW WATER.
ONCE THAT DAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT COUNTS AS A FLOOD DAY.
SO WE KNOW THAT FLOODING DAYS FLOOD DAYS ARE INCREASING ALREADY, AND WE CAN EXPECT THEM TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS SEA LEVEL RISES.
AND GENERALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT EVENTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH WILL BECOME MORE FREQUENT.
SO WHAT OUR KING TIDES LOOK LIKE A FEW TIMES A YEAR ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE FREQUENT HAPPENING ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
OUR MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING EVENTS ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE FREQUENT, ET CETERA.
AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT SOME OF THESE FLOODING EVENTS, WHICH HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH TROPICAL SYSTEMS, TROPICAL STORMS AND HURRICANES AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE IN THE FUTURE.
SO MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING COULD OCCUR WITHOUT A TROPICAL EVENT.
IT COULD BE HIGHER TIDES AT KING TIDE ON A SPECIFIC DAY WITH THE RIGHT WINDS AT THE RIGHT KNOTS AND THE RIGHT DIRECTIONS THAT COULD CAUSE MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING.
SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE MORE FLOODING.
SO HOW CAN WE RESPOND? WELL, FORTUNATELY BUFORD COUNTY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DOING WORK TO HAS ALREADY DONE WORK, TO START ADDRESSING THIS LONG BEFORE I SHOWED UP IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND IT INCLUDES AGGRESSIVE ZONING CODES AND ORDINANCES THAT HELP PROTECT OPEN SPACE, WETLANDS, ECOSYSTEMS, AND OFFS TO NOT ONLY PROTECT YOUR ECOSYSTEM SERVICES, WHICH HELP BUFFER US FROM STORM SYSTEMS AND STORM SURGE, BUT ALSO TO KEEP INFRASTRUCTURE OUT OF LOW LYING AREAS IN PLACES THAT WE KNOW ALREADY FLOODED IN PLACES THAT COULD FLOOD IN THE FUTURE.
WE ALSO RECENTLY UPDATED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INTENTIONALLY INTER INTERWOVE RESILIENCE THROUGHOUT THE PLAN.
AND SO WHAT IT DID IS IT INFORMED MANY OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN, MANY OF THE POLICIES AND ACTIONS RECOMMENDED IN THE PLAN AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO START DOING SOME OF THIS GROUNDWORK AND MOVE US FURTHER ALONG IN OUR RESILIENCE MISSION THAT WAS ADOPTED THIS PAST FALL.
ADDITIONALLY, THE GREEN PRINT PLAN WAS UPDATED IN 2020.
THIS IS THE PLAN THAT KIND OF REGULATES HOW OUR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM ACHIEVES CONSERVATION PROPERTIES THROUGH THAT PROCESS, A MAPPING EFFORT HAPPENS THAT IDENTIFIES HOW WE BALANCE CONSERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO A MAPPING LAYER, THE GREENPRINT WAS INCORPORATED FOR THE FIRST TIME INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IT CAN BETTER INFORM OUR FUTURE LAND USE DECISIONS.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.
AND NOW I'M GOING INTO THREE HIGHLIGHTS OF ONGOING STEPS.
THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT HAPPENING AT THE COUNTY.
BUT ONE OF THE FIRST IS THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUTTONING UP A LONG-TERM RESILIENCE PLAN FOR THE COUNTY.
THIS EFFORT STARTED IN 2019 WITH THE HELP OF A SEA LEVEL RISE TASK FORCE THAT WAS MULTI JURISDICTIONAL.
AND THEY WORKED THROUGH THE PANDEMIC TO CREATE A PLAN THAT HAS A STRATEGY FOR HOW BEAVER COUNTY APPROACHES RESILIENCE AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE.
THE GENERAL STRATEGY FRAMEWORK IS TO COLLECT DATA.
SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE LOCALLY TO PLAN BASED ON THAT DATA, CREATE ACTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPLEMENT PROJECTS, AND THEN TO REASSESS BECAUSE THINGS CHANGED.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING MAKES SENSE AS THINGS CHANGE, UH, THAT MIRRORS WHAT THE STATE'S DOING WITH THEIR OWN RESILIENCE PLAN.
SO WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THAT.
NOW THE GOOD THING IS, EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T YET ADOPTED AND COMPLETED, SEVERAL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED WERE PUT INCORPORATED INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORTS.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT ALIVE, COMPONENTS OF IT ARE
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AND WE'RE WORKING ON THEM.HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR HERE, WE ALSO ACQUIRED TWO TIDE GAUGES.
SO WE CAN BEGIN UNDERSTANDING OUR LOCAL TIDE TRENDS.
THIS WAS DONE THROUGH A GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH THE SCC GRANT CONSORTIUM.
ONE TIDE GAUGE WAS INSTALLED LAST FALL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION AT THEIR MARITIME CENTER AND THE CHIESI CREEK.
AND ANOTHER TIDE GAUGE WAS INSTALLED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FRIPP ISLAND NATURE PROGRAM OUT AT THEIR FISHING PIER ON SKULL CREEK OFF OF FRIPP ISLAND.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE IT BACK TO WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NOAH TIDE GAUGES.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE PRETTY DEPENDENT ON THOSE TWO TIDE GAUGES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
AND WE KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO TRULY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, WE SHOULD HAVE HYPER-LOCAL INFORMATION.
WE SHOULD HAVE OUR LOCAL TIDE GAUGES.
AND SO WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IF YOU TAKE A LOOK IN THE BOTTOM LEFT AT THE TIDE CHART, THAT'S FROM THIS PAST JUNE, FROM THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION'S TIDE GAUGE, THE LOWER DOTTED LIGHT BLUE LINE IS THE PREDICTION NOAH HAS FOR OUR DAILY TIDES BASED ON THE CHARLESTON AND FORT PULASKI TIDE GAUGES.
THE DARK BLUE LINE IS WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE CHESSIE CREEK.
SO WE CAN SEE RIGHT AWAY THAT NOAH IS UNDERESTIMATING OUR TIDE TRENDS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT LOCAL DATA SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE BASING OUR PREDICTIONS FOR THE FUTURE AND OUR DAILY PREDICTIONS ON THOSE CHARLESTON, FORT PULASKI TIDE GAUGES THAT ARE NOT IN BUFORD COUNTY.
SO FORTUNATELY WE STARTED COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION AND WE ARE OOPS, GOING TOO FAST, ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, NOT JUST WHAT OUR SURFACE WATER IS DOING, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR GROUNDWATER BELOW THE GROUND.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A, IN A STUDY THAT IS ASSESSING HOW GROUNDWATER WILL CHANGE WITH SEA LEVEL RISE.
SO WE CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE ANTICIPATED IMPACTS TO OUR LOW-LYING INFRASTRUCTURE.
SOME OF THE BIG PRIORITIES FOR US WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS IS SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND HOW SEPTIC SYSTEMS WILL REACT WITH SEA LEVEL RISE.
BUT THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS AND PRIORITIZE ADAPTIVE MEASURES FOR IN THAT PHOTO ON THE RIGHT THAT'S ONE OF OUR GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS, THAT'S HELPING US DO THIS WORK.
SO I'M GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF THE TALK, TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
IT'S CALLED BEAVER COUNTY ADAPTS C-LEVEL IMPACTS BENEATH OUR FEET.
IT IS A NOAA FUNDED GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH THEIR AD SITE PROGRAM.
WE ARE CONDUCTING IT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA, THE COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON, THE SCC GRANT CONSORTIUM, AND THE ACE BASIN NURSE THROUGH SC DNR.
WHAT THIS PROJECT IS DOING IS ASSESSING HOW GROUNDWATER WILL CHANGE WITH REGARD TO SEA LEVEL RISE.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL PUSH SEA LEVEL RISE WILL PUSH GROUNDWATER UP, WHICH MIGHT MEAN THAT AREAS THAT ARE TYPICALLY DRY BECOME WET AND AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY WET MIGHT BECOME FLOODING ISSUES.
SO TO DO THIS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT HAVE CHRONIC FLOODING ISSUES.
THESE ARE THE WARSAW AND CORNERS COMMUNITIES ON ST.
HELENA, THE MOSSY OAKS COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF BUFORD, THE SHELL POINT COMMUNITY IN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND THE ALL JOY COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF BLUFFTON.
THESE FOUR COMMUNITIES HAD WELLS INSTALLED IN THEM THIS PAST SPRING GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS.
THESE ARE OUR GROUNDWATER RESEARCH AND WHAT THE MONITORING WELLS LOOK LIKE.
THESE GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS WILL EXTEND OR DO EXTEND 10 FEET BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.
THEY ARE TAKING DATA ON GROUNDWATER, HEIGHT AND SALINITY.
THEY HAVE BEEN POSITIONED SO THAT SOME ARE NEAR THE SALT MARSH AND SOME ARE CLOSER TOWARDS HIGH GROUNDS.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER AT LEAST THE NEXT YEAR IS DATA WILL BE COLLECTED.
AND OUR GROUND WATER RESEARCHERS WILL TAKE THE DATA ON GROUNDWATER, HEIGHT AND SALINITY TO COMPARE IT TO THE OBSERVED TIDE TRENDS, THE OBSERVED RAIN EVENTS AND THE OBSERVED DROUGHT EVENTS.
THEY WILL THEN TAKE ALL OF THAT DATA TO UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION BETWEEN GROUNDWATER AND HOW IT'S RESPONDING TO THOSE, THOSE DIFFERENT EVENTS, THE TIDES, THE RAIN, AND THE DROUGHT.
ONCE WE HAVE A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, WE'LL THEN BE ABLE TO EXTRAPOLATE TO OUR SEA LEVEL RISE PREDICTIONS OF A FOOT TO A FOOT AND A HALF TO UNDERSTAND HOW GROUND WATER WILL MOVE.
AND THEN BASED ON HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO THE MARCH, MARCH, HOW FAR IN THOSE IMPACTS WILL GO, WHICH WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO OUR UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW TO REACT TO THAT.
SO THIS PAST SPRING 15 GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS WERE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
HELENA WITH THREE ON HORSAGER ISLAND, TWO ON HIGHWAY 21, BETWEEN WARSAW ISLANDS AND THE CORNERS COMMUNITY INTO, IN THE CORNERS COMMUNITY FOR OUR, IN THE MOSCOW'S COMMUNITY IN AND AROUND SOUTH SIDE PARK TO OUR, IN THE SHELL POINT COMMUNITY IN AND AROUND SHELL POINT PARK AND TWO ARE IN THE ALL JOY COMMUNITY IN AND AROUND A FUTURE PASSIVE PART PROPERTY.
THAT'S THEIR PASSIVE PARK PROPERTY.
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THAT DATA COLLECTION PROCESS, AND THAT'S A WELL GOING IN ON ST.HELENA THERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, UM, THAT DATA COLLECTION PROCESS, LIKE I SAID, WILL HAPPEN FOR AT LEAST A YEAR, POTENTIALLY LONGER TO GET DATA AND BEGIN UNDERSTANDING THOSE IMPACTS, BUT IT'S A TWO PRONGED STUDY.
SO ON ONE SIDE, WE'RE TAKING GROUNDWATER MEASUREMENTS.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'LL BE WORKING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES TO UNDERSTAND THE STRENGTH OF OUR SOCIAL FABRIC AND OUR SOCIAL CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
SO THERE'S A SOCIAL SCIENCE COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT AS WELL.
AND SO WE ARE BEGINNING THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES.
WE'VE HAD OUR FIRST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING ON ST.
HELENA EARLIER THIS SPRING, AND WE'LL BE DOING THE SAME AND THE OTHER THREE COMMUNITIES TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THEIR PROJECT AND BEGIN FORMING RELATIONSHIPS AND IDENTIFYING PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING MORE TARGETED, UM, RESEARCH EXPERIENCES WITH US.
SO THERE WILL BE TARGETED INTERVIEWS AND SURVEYS TO ASSESS WHAT OUR COMMUNITIES THINK ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR THEIR ADAPTATION, WHAT THOSE PATHWAYS MIGHT BE LIKE, WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT UP WITH ESSENTIALLY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A LOOK AT.
SO THAT PROCESS HAS STARTED, BUT IT WILL REALLY BE GEARING UP HERE THROUGH THE END OF SUMMER AND GETTING INTO FALL.
AND I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, TO HELP US ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND, AND DEVELOP THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE THIS PROJECT IS AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
AND SO I'M GONNA WRAP UP MY PRESENTATION AND ALLOW YOU ALL TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR JULIA.
I HOPE I CAME RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING.
I WAS WAY OVER THERE TO GET HERE.
UM, SO IF YOU COVERED IN A SLOT OR TWO BEFORE I GOT HERE, I'M SORRY.
OKAY, SO I'VE GOT LIKE THREE THAT'S.
SO I WONDER, SO THAT'S A QUESTION.
WHEN DID YOU INSTALL THESE WELLS AND WAS IT PRE-IMPOSED AND IS THAT A VALID PROJECT? BECAUSE I THINK ALL JOY, WHICH IS NOT IN THE TOWN, BUT THEY ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS TOWN.
UM, AND WE ALL LIVE IN THE COUNTY.
HOW COULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT ALL? JOY, WHEN WE JUST BOUGHT LARGE ACREAGE, VERY CLOSE TO WHERE EVERYTHING FLOODS AND IT ON A RAIN LIKE LAST WEEK, IT RAINED AND IT FLOODED AND IT WAS LOW TIDE.
SO, UM, SO THAT WAS ONE, ONE AT A TIME.
AND HOW CAN WE, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO, TO HANDLE ALL JOY IN THIS? SO IN MOSCOW YOLKS, THE WELLS WENT IN AFTER ALL OF THAT REHABILITATION WORK WAS DONE TO MANAGE STORM WATER.
AND I WANT TO SEPARATE STORM WATER AND GROUNDWATER, CAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT FEATURES OF FLOODING YOUR STORM WATER, OF COURSE, COMING FROM OUR RAIN SYSTEMS. AND YOUR GROUNDWATER IS PRESENT UNDERNEATH THE EARTH NOW IMPACTED BY STORM WATER.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW IT'S IMPACTED BY OUR TIDES AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE OF THE TIDES.
I DIDN'T, I MEANT STORM WATER IS JUST WATER COMING FROM OLD.
THEY INSTALLED KIND OF FLOOD GATES AND THAT KIND OF THING TO PREVENT THE WATER FROM COMING IN WHEN THERE'S A STORMING EVENT AND VICE VERSA TO TRY AND MANAGE THOSE STORMWATERS.
UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, IT WAS INSTALLED AFTER THE FACT.
SO THIS WILL GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON HOW GROUNDWATER IS MOVING WITH STORMS, WITHOUT STORMS, WITH TIDES, WITH DROUGHT.
SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS FOR THE FUTURE THAT WAS KIND OF ADDRESSING, UH, A CURRENT NEED AND INTO THE FUTURE.
UM, AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE DONE IN ALL JOY, IT'S HOPED THAT WHAT WE GET FROM HERE WILL HELP US INFORM THAT.
BUT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT, WHO I KNOW IS WORKING IN THAT COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR THE, THE EXPERIENCE THERE.
AND THEN THE TOD GAUGE, I THINK YOU SEE WHERE YOU PUT THEM ON THE LARGER PART OF THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU PUT A TAG GAUGE IN THAT ALL JOY AREA? YEAH.
UM, IS THERE A COST TO IT OR IS IT A REQUEST? IT WAS A COST.
IT WAS A LOW COST THROUGH GRANT PROGRAM WITH THE SCC GRANT CONSORTIUM.
SO THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO GET ONE.
I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF BUFORD GOT ONE AS WELL.
OUR INTENTION WAS TO PUT THEM IN THE PORT ROYAL SOUND, WHICH IS WHY THEY ENDED UP WHERE THEY ENDED UP.
WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS IN AND AROUND THE PORT ROYAL SOUND TO GET THAT DONE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HILTON HAD ALSO HAS ONE INSTALLED, BUT IT WOULDN'T, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR THE FUTURE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY IN AND AROUND THE ALL JOY COMMUNITY.
SO SHOULD I REACH OUT TO MY COUNTY REP THAT ALL JOY FALLS UNDER BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN? I KNOW THE TOWN
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WOULD PROBABLY DO IT.I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS I WANT TO CHECK IN WITH SEC GRANT TOO AND SEE HOW THAT GRANT PROGRAM IS PROCEEDING.
CAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT ROUTES, BUT I COULD COORDINATE WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND FINALLY, UM, ALL JOY WHERE YOU PUT THE WELL, IF AT THE PROPERTY IS ACROSS FROM OMER REC, I'M GUESSING THAT'S THE LAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WAS IT THE 54 ACRES THAT YOU BOUGHT DOWN ALMA ROAD? IT'S THE, WHAT WILL BE THE BAILEY MEMORIAL? I BELIEVE? UM, IT'S THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND.
I BELIEVE BAILEY MEMORIAL IS WHAT ITS NAME WILL BE WHEN IT'S DONE, UNLESS I'M GETTING A STORMWATER PART CONFUSED WITH IT, BUT IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S A BIG, LONG RECTANGULAR PARCEL AND THE HIGHER GROUND, I BELIEVE IT'S NEAR THE PARK THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
SO THAT'S SO INLAND THAT, AND MAYBE THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT REP AND THEN FEMA GRANTS IN GREEN PRINT MAP.
I'D LOVE FOR THIS GROUP TO GET A COPY OF THAT GREEN PRINT MAP, IF YOU COULD GET IT TO US.
AND I KNOW I SAT AT COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR PASSING IT.
CAUSE I'VE GOT SOME RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WHO HAVE UTILIZED THAT FEMA GRANT.
AND I THINK PART OF YOUR CHARGE SHOULD BE TO GET ALL THE GRANTS OUT THAT RESIDENTS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE, UM, BECAUSE THAT DOES GIVE THE ABILITY TO TEAR DOWN AND OPEN UP AS A PARK OR RAISE YOUR HOUSE OR WHATEVER.
AND THE COUNTY, UM, HAD THAT FORESIGHT TO AGREE TO BE KIND OF THE PASS THROUGH FROM FEMA.
SO, UM, I CAN GET THE PEOPLE THAT DID THAT RESEARCH TO GIVE YOU THE LINKS.
BUT I DO THINK THE RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE WITH A MILLION STRINGS, BUT IT COULD HELP PROBABLY.
AND I AM, WE DO, WE DID JUST GET A GREEN PRINT, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAPPING, BUT THE GREEN PRINT PLAN MAPPING AS WELL PUT UP ON OUR GIS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.
PEOPLE CAN EXPLORE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE FEMA FOLKS, UH, IN YOUR STUDIES.
WHEN YOU DID YOUR STUDY, YOU HAVE, UH, IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF IT, IF YOU DO SOME KIND OF PROTECTION, ARE YOU LOOKING AT MAYBE THAT PROTECTION WE'LL MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT PROBLEM IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION? YES.
SO THE STUDY IS UNDER, IT'S STILL UNDERWAY, SO WE DON'T YET HAVE THE DATA TO REALLY INFORM WHAT THOSE, THOSE ADAPTATION MEASURES SHOULD BE.
SO WE WILL WITHIN THE NEXT, HOPEFULLY THE NEXT YEAR IT'S SUPPOSED TO WRAP UP IN 2023.
UM, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A CONSIDERATION ON THE OVERALL IMPACTS TO YOUR HYDROLOGICAL SYSTEMS ON WHERE THE WATER IS AND IF, IF IT GETS SHIFTED AND I THINK THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY DEMONSTRATED KIND OF A PRIORITY AND NOT SHIFTING WATER ONTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ON THAT SLIDE THAT I WENT THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY WAS WE RECENTLY ADOPTED A PHIL ORDINANCE THAT LIMITS WHERE DIRT FILL CAN BE BROUGHT IN LOW LYING AREAS SO THAT WE'RE NOT RAISING PROPERTIES UP OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, AND THEN CAUSING THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING ON OUR MINDS AND AS WE'RE GOING INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADAPTATION PHASE, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THAT WE'LL KEEP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A SUGGESTION, NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION.
UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS A REGIONALLY FOCUSED COMMITTEE AND THE FACT THAT, UH, WATER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY LINES BETWEEN THE BUFORD AND JASPER COUNTY, UH, DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO REACH OUT TO JASPER COUNTY AND SEE WHERE THERE ARE SOME COMMON GOALS OR COMMON COOPERATION THAT COULD ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTIES.
YEAH, AND I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND JASPER COUNTY AND TALK WITH THEIR COUNCIL AS WELL, BUT DEFINITELY ONE OF THE INTENTS OF THIS STUDY IS TO SHARE WHAT WE FIND SO THAT THE AREAS AROUND US CAN START TO EXTRAPOLATE FROM THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AND START TO PLAN FROM THAT AS WELL.
SO COLLABORATION IS DEFINITELY A BENEFIT AND A STRONG, STRONG POINT.
AND I'M SURE MR. KEMP CARRY THAT BACK TO THE COUNTY AS WELL.
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OKAY.UM, THANK YOU MS. SMITH FOR PREPARING THAT FOR US AND, UM, AND UPDATING US.
THE NEXT PART OF OUR AGENDA IS THE, UH, REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND AND THAT CONVERSATION, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE JURISDICTIONS AND THE ADMINISTRATORS, AND THERE HAS BEEN A REVISED, UM, INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS OUR NEXT STEP TO GO FORWARD.
SO, UM, I, MY INTENT HERE IS NOT TO GO LINE BY LINE, HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE ON IT AND AGREE, UH, WHAT OUR INTENT IS, IS COME AWAY TODAY WITH A DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO EACH ONE OF OUR COUNCILS.
UM, WE HAVE WITH US TODAY, MS. TAMMY HAWAII, UH, ARIK IS NOT HERE TODAY.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE MS. WHITE TO DO IS GIVE AN OVERVIEW, UH, OF ANYTHING THAT, UM, WAS DONE SINCE LAST MONTH.
AND THEN OPEN UP THE MIC TO ANY JURISDICTION WHO IS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SATISFIED.
IF THERE'S A POINT OF WHICH THAT STILL NEEDS FURTHER MODIFICATION OR NEGOTIATION, LET'S WALK AWAY WITH TODAY, EITHER A DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN ALL TAKE TO OUR COUNCILS, OR IF THERE'S A POINT OR TWO THAT NEEDS TO BE REFINED OR REDISCUSS, WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
SO MS. FOY, WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN THE LAST MONTH? OKAY, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
AND SO I THINK, UM, AGAIN, I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS PROVIDED A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO KIND OF INCLUDE ALL THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, A HOLISTIC DOCUMENT THAT MEETS EVERY JURISDICTIONS NEEDS.
I KNOW A COUPLE OF THE CORE THINGS, UM, WAS AROUND THE AREA MEETING INCOME.
UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ALSO TRYING TO ALIGN WITH THIS AGREEMENT IS WHAT IS IN THE ENABLING LEGISLATION, WHICH IS CALLED THE MESHER ACT, WHICH IS THE, WHICH IS A LEGISLATION THAT ENABLES AND ALLOWS HOUSING TRUST FUNDS TO BE CREATED AND TO BE FUNDED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND COUNTIES.
AND SO SOME OF THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE AMI WAS WHAT WAS ALIGNED WITH THE MEASURE ACT, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 120% VERSUS THE ONE 50.
AND I KNOW THAT CAME UP AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
SO YOU MAY SEE THAT ADJUSTMENT IN THERE SPECIFICALLY, AND AS IT RELATES TO THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT WAS CREATED, UM, MANY YEARS AGO, UM, THERE WAS ALSO I THINK, SOME DISCUSSION AROUND, UM, THE INITIAL STRUCTURE OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ALSO EVENTUALLY THE GOAL, UM, TO THINK TO DO A 5 0 1 C3.
UM, SO THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN THERE.
UM, WE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, UM, HAVING RUN MANY, MANY NONPROFITS IN MY CAREER, THE TIME IT TAKES TO DO THAT CAN BE MUCH LONGER THAN THREE MONTHS, EVEN WITH THE IRS, RIGHT.
EVEN A DESIGNATION WITH THE IRS.
SO JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVING US ENOUGH RUNWAY AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE AN ORDINANCE AND I SEE THOSE TYPES OF DEADLINES, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLEAR THAT SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT QUICKLY AND HAVING OUR EXPERIENCE EVEN IN GREENVILLE.
UM, SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS, UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION AROUND, YOU KNOW, JUST HIGHLIGHTING, UM, JUST AROUND REPORTING.
SO I DID MOVE A WHOLE SECTION IS AN ADDENDUM AROUND REPORTING AND EXPECTATIONS OF REPORTING, JUST TO KIND OF MORE CLARIFY THE TYPES OF DATA POINTS, UM, THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO REPORT AND HOW WE REPORT.
CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF, UH, REPORTING BACK TO THE GROUP AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AROUND, UH, APPROVE, UH, PRIORITY PROJECTS AND APPROVAL OF PROJECTS.
UM, AND, AND CERTAINLY I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES AT COMMUNITY WORKS AS THE POSSIBLE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS IS, UM, THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO AFTER THIS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS AGAIN, WHAT'S GOOD FOR JASPER AND WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES MAY BE.
AND WHAT'S GOOD FOR BUFORD AND, AND HARDY VILLE WILL BE DIFFERENT.
YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE DIFFERENT, YOUR, YOUR HOUSING PRIORITIES ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE HIGH DENSITY AND MULTIFAMILY MAKES SENSE, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR EVERY COMMUNITY.
AND SO PART OF THAT PRIORITIZATION WOULD BE, UM, DEFINING THOSE COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.
SO THEN WE KNOW AT COMMUNITY WORKS OR WHATEVER THE ADMINISTRATOR IS AT THE HOUSING FUND, UM, THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THOSE TYPES OF HOUSING WITHIN THOSE AREAS.
SO THERE'S SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE.
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IN THE, IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT.SO, UM, THAT WAS THE MAIN CORE THAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF EDITS AND CHANGES.
UM, CERTAINLY THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THINGS THAT POPPED OUT AT, AT EVERYONE, UM, THAT THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR, UM, UH, IDEAS ABOUT.
UM, SO THAT FOLKS CAN SHARE WITH, UM, WITH ME SOME OF THOSE IDEAS AND I CAN RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY, SO THE FORMULA WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE AT COMMUNITY WORKS, WORKED ON.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FORMULA FOR EACH JURISDICTION AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, WITH THE INITIAL FUNDING.
UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE APPROPRIATED OR USED FROM ARPA OR OTHER FUNDS.
UM, I CAN NOT NECESSARILY PERSONALLY RESPOND TO THAT.
I KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT A PERCENTAGE AND THEN THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT POPULATION.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF ATTACHMENT A, I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PROVIDED VIA THE COUNTY THROUGH OTHER DISCUSSIONS.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
UM, ATTACHMENT A THAT WE HAVE HERE.
UM, WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING AND I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES IS THAT, UH, WE AGREED OR THE BOARD OF, SO LOCO AGREED THAT YOUR ONE WOULD BE BY HARPER CALCULATIONS AND TWO THROUGH 10 WOULD BE THROUGH POPULATION LOOKING AT YEAR ONE.
AND WHAT MAYOR SOCO WAS GOING TO SAY, UH, WAS THAT THIS IS THE YEAR ONE HERE STILL HAS THE POPULATION CALCULATIONS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LAST MEETING.
UM, ALSO LOOKING AT MY NOTES WHILE I GOT THIS MICROPHONE TURNED ON, THERE WAS A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE M A M I AND HILTON HAD A SUGGESTED ONE 50 AND THE, UM, CITY OF HARTSVILLE, JASPER COUNTY, BLUFFTON AND BUFORD ALL WANTED A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, THIS DOCUMENT SAYS ONE 20.
SO I, MAYBE ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATORS WHO TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST MONTH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATORS WANTED TO CHANGE TO ONE 20, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT MY NOTES HAVE.
JOSH, DO YOU WANT TO COME, JOSH? YOU SHOULD BE UP HERE ANYWAY.
WHY DON'T YOU GET OVER THERE? YOU TRIED TO HIDE.
AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW THAT IN THE DOCUMENT, IT SAYS UP TO ONE 20, UM, ALLOWING THE FLEXIBILITY.
UM, I THINK THE QUESTION ON THE ONE 50 WAS MORE AROUND, UM, THE ENABLING LEGISLATION.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GET AN ATTORNEY GENERALS AND I DON'T KNOW IF KURT IS HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED, IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY, I WOULD SAY WITH ONE 50, UM, WE CAN DO, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND JOSH AND I HAVE MET IN THE PAST AT THE ONE 50.
IT JUST MAY NOT BE THROUGH THE REGIONAL FUND.
IT COULD BE A SEPARATE PROGRAM AND PROJECT THAT WE DO.
UM, WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE, WHERE HILTON HEAD SAYS, HEY, WE REALLY WANT TO INVEST $500,000 FOR POPULATIONS UP TO ONE 50.
WE'RE GOING TO SET ASIDE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE TO BUY DOWN MORTGAGES OR WHATEVER THE STRATEGY THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR THEM COULD BE DONE.
I THINK THE QUESTION WAS PER THE MESHER ACT, WAS IT ALLOWABLE VIA REGIONAL HOUSING FUND? SO LET ME FIRST START OFF BY SAYING WITH THE REVISION TO ONE 20, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF BRINGING THAT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
THE REASON WE INITIALLY SOUGHT TO HAVE ONE 50 IS JUST BECAUSE OF, I THINK THE PRACTICAL RECAP REALITIES THAT WE SEE IN THE COST OF BUILDING ON HILTON HEAD.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROJECTS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, BUT WHEN WE TOOK A STEP BACK AFTER THE LAST MEETING AND REALLY LOOKED AT IT IN THE BROADER CONTEXT, IT DID SEEM TO BE AN OUTLIER.
SO THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN REVISED DOWN TO ONE 20, UH, WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO WAS THERE.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST SAY AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE IN HERE WAS A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE TO SAY UP TO, UM, IF THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THAT FOR CERTAIN AREAS.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT THAT, LIKE IN THE DOCUMENT THAT THESE PARTICULAR COUNTIES WILL ONLY GO UP TO A HUNDRED AND THIS PARTICULAR AREA WOULD ONLY GO UP TO, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT AS, AS DEVELOPMENT COSTS CHANGE AND AS THINGS SHIFT, ONE 20 IS NOT UNREASONABLE.
UM, I THINK YOU STILL HAVE IN HERE MAYOR THAT A PRIORITY IS 60% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME AND
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BELOW.SO THERE'S STILL A PRIORITY SEGMENT WHERE WE WOULD, UM, OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, BUT HE MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, TO THE BOARD AND THE JURISDICTIONS, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO LEAVING THAT LANGUAGE UP TO ONE 20? OR IS THAT SOMETHING EACH JURISDICTION CAN LIVE WITH? SPEAK TO THAT PLEASE? WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF ALWAYS RULE IN ANY, ANY VOTE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE.
SO FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT WE GO ABOVE THE MAJORITY IS NOT THE WAY THE PROCESSES IS ACCEPTED.
SO IF I THINK THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO UP TO A HUNDRED AND NOT TO UP TO ONE 20, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I THINK THE TOWN'S GOING TO OBJECT TO THE INITIAL POPULATION.
THE INITIAL POPULATION CHANGED WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT ALL BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE USING ARPA MONEY THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TOWN CAN PARTICIPATE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BASE IT ON POPULATION THE FIRST YEAR, I'M NOT OVER THE BUDGET, BUT I'LL ALSO KNOW OUR BUDGETS BEEN VOTED ON AND WE WISH WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE ARPA MONEY.
IT WASN'T OUR FAULT THAT SOMEBODY CUT SEVEN TOWNS IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, THE TOWNS WHO SPEND IN IT THE BEST WAYS, BY THE WAY TO THAT NUMBER.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOSE ON THAT MAJORITY.
I CAN PROMISE YOU, SO WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL.
UM, YOU KNOW WHAT THE MAJORITY IS IF WE NEED TO MAKE A PLEA FOR THE ARPA ONE YEAR, BUT I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THEY MAY NOT PARTICIPATE IF THEY CAN'T GET UP TO ONE 20.
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO COMPROMISE BOTH TWO OF THOSE ISSUES JUST FOR FAULT.
SO WE HAVE TWO ISSUES ON THE TABLE AND LET'S TAKE ONE AT A TIME.
NUMBER ONE, THE ART PERFORMANCE, THAT'S A NON-STARTER FOR BLUFFTON.
AND WE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, THAT THE, AND HERE'S WHAT WAS DECIDED LAST MEETING, JASPER COUNTY, BLUFFTON CITY OF HARTSVILLE AND HILTON HEAD AGREED TO USING YOUR ONE, THE OPERA MONIES AND NOT THIS ATTACHMENT.
SO THIS ATTACHMENT HAS TO BE CHANGED YEAR ONE TO THE ARPA CALCULATION.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE DID NOT WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR CALCULATION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL YEAR ONE SHOULD BE THAT NUMBER.
AND THEN, UH, ALL YEARS AFTER THE TWO THROUGH 10, CAUSE IT'S NOT COMING FROM OUR OPERA FUNDS, IT'S COMING FROM OUR BUDGETS WOULD BE GOTCHA.
AND JUST TO KEEP THE RECORD STRAIGHT, THE PORT ROYAL AND BUFORD VOTED IT'D BE POPULATION AND BUFORD COUNTY AND THE MSC HAD NO PREFERENCE EITHER WAY.
SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.
SO THAT'S ISSUE NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO, UM, THE OPERA CALCULATIONS FOR YEAR ONE.
NUMBER TWO, UM, MR. HAMILTON, UH, SAID, RIGHTFULLY I'LL GIVE THE, UM, THE RESULTS OF LAST MEETING HILTON HAD SUGGESTED 150 WITH A 60% PRIORITY, WHICH IS IN THE DOCUMENT A HUNDRED PERCENT WAS, UH, PUT FORTH AND SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF HARTVILLE, JASPER COUNTY, BLUFFTON AND BUFORD, THE OTHER, UH, THERE WAS NO OTHER, UH, PREFERENCE VOICED BY, UH, PORT ROYAL, UH, OR, OR EMBASSY.
SO MR. HAMILTON SUGGESTS THAT WE GO BACK TO THAT.
NO, IT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE LAST MONTH TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, OPINION FROM ANY OTHER JURISDICTION SO WE CAN WALK AWAY WITH THIS, UM, ISSUE AT LEAST, UH, RESOLVE TO SOME EXTENT MR. MAYOR, JUST TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION, HOPEFULLY AGAIN, AS FAR AS THE MAXIMUM LEVEL WE TALKED ABOUT AT 1 25, IF A HUNDRED PERCENT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT'S VOTED UPON, WE WILL STILL BRING THIS FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL AND DISCUSS IT.
OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL HERE IS TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE ARE PROJECTS
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THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE, THAT COULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE DONE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THAT THEY REMAIN ELIGIBLE.AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT I WOULD JUST ASK FOR SOME DISCUSSION MAYBE ON WHAT WAS ADDED IN TERMS OF PREFERENCE BEING GIVEN TO PROJECTS BELOW 60% AMI, BECAUSE AGAIN, KNOWING WHAT THE COST OF LAND AND THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT IS, IF PROJECTS ARE BEGINNING OF, IN PREFERENCE OF 60% AND BELOW THAT MAY VERY WELL EFFECTIVELY MEAN THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY PROJECTS DONE ON HILTON HEAD.
AND AGAIN, I'VE JUST GOT TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT WHEN DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL OR WILL NOT PARTICIPATE.
UH, MR. LENNOX, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ACT, UH, HARRY
IS THERE ANY WAY TO TIER IT IN SOME, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ABOVE A HUNDRED AND IT MAY BE HERE TOO.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SOLD THAT WE DON'T NEED IT, BUT I ALSO KNOW WE NEED A LOT, SO, AND WE CAN'T SOLVE EVERYONE'S PROBLEMS WITH, TO KEEP THE HOUSING FROM JUST BEING RESTRICTED TO ONE, TWO, OR AREAS BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 120.
COULD YOU ADD LANGUAGE TO SAY THERE MAY BE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, BOB, THE ENTITY OF THE TOWN OF SOMETHING? YEAH.
I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, ONE IDEA IS IF YOU, AGAIN, WE PUT UP TO ONE 20, UM, JUST BASED ON THE MEASURE ACT AND WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE, AND ALSO TRYING TO THINK, MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE ONE 50 AND THAT KIND OF THING.
IF YOU WANT TO BE AS SPECIFIC AS ATTACHMENT C THAT COULD INCLUDE IN HILTON HEAD FUND, BUT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE ON THAT.
I KNOW, BUT MY POINT IS, IS YOU COULD IDENTIFY EACH, EACH JURISDICTION AND SAY IN THESE JURISDICTIONS, IT WOULD BE UP TO ONE 20 UP TO A HUNDRED UP TO, I MEAN, THAT IS MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OKAY, SO IF, UH, JASPER OR WHOMEVER HARTSVILLE SAYS, WE ONLY WANT TO GO UP TO 120%, THEN IF A PROJECT COMES TO THE HOUSING FUND FOR FINANCING AND IT'S AT ONE 10, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE TO SAY NO RIGHT TO UTILIZE, OR WE MIGHT HAVE TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
SO I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS IN THE ORDINANCE WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT FLEXIBLE WAS TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH YOU ONE-ON-ONE AND DEFINE WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AND TRY TO MEET THOSE.
AND THOSE MAY CHANGE BECAUSE HOME OWNERSHIP MIGHT BE YOUR PRIORITY.
NOW RENTAL MAY BE YOUR PRIORITY LATER.
SO WE WEREN'T BEING AS SPECIFIC IN THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT.
BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD SAY LEGALLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ADD AN ATTACHMENT THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC AND SAID, BLUFFED IN A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTY, BILL, 80%, JUST A THOUGHT BEING UNIFORM TO ME IS IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE, WE, WE GOTTA BE, YOU GOTTA BE ONE VOICE IN ONE BODY.
SO WHEN YOU START MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULES, IT GETS, IT GETS UGLY.
WHAT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ADD, SIR, IS THAT YOU COULD ALSO START TO SEE COMPETITION OF WHERE HOUSING IS.
IF YOUR, IF YOUR LINE IS HERE AND HERE'S THIS CITY AND HERE'S THIS CITY AND YOU KNOW, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, AMI CHANGES, RIGHT? AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EACH COUNTY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR OWN AMI.
THE AMI AND HILTON HEAD IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE AMI AND BLUFFTON OR SO WE ARE TART.
WE ARE TYING IT TO AN ANNUAL AMI THAT, THAT CHANGES AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF EXACTLY THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES, RIGHT? YEAH.
JUST SAYING THAT, THAT PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER AMI WILL BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HAVING SOME TIERED APPROACH? AND I SAW ROB SHAKING HIS HEAD ON MY FAULT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, NONE OF US KNOW THE MARKET'S GOING TO BE WITH HOUSING RIGHT NOW.
WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A HUGE NEED UNDER 60, BUT IF LEFT TO HILTON HEAD OR HARDY VILLE OR BUFORT, YOU KNOW, THEIR LAND, ALL OF OUR LAND COSTS ARE SO DIFFERENT.
AND SOME, UM, SOME HAVE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP EVERYONE TOGETHER, TO KEEP IT UNIFORM, BUT SAY BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 120 FOR EVERYBODY, THERE SHOULD BE AN AGENDA FOR SOME OUT.
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MAYBE WE CONTRIBUTE MORE.MAYBE THERE, YOU KNOW, MORE, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S GOTTA BE SOME WAY TO DO IT.
CAUSE I DO UNDER STAND THAT I'M ALL ABOUT 100 AND I'LL SUPPORT YOU.
BUT IN MY HEAD, IF WE COULD SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD, I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO GO TO ONE 20, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE EACH WANT TO FOCUS? SO THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET TO KEEP THIS HERE AND HAVING A DIM THEM, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMMENT WAS, WAS, WAS ADDRESS IT PERFECTLY.
WE CAN'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD.
SO WE CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEMS UNDER 60.
AND WE CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEMS ABOVE A HUNDRED.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE, BECAUSE IF YOU, ANYTIME YOU, YOU MAKE THE SKY, THE LIMIT, OR THERE'S NO BOUNDARIES, THEN YOU'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING REALLY DONE THAT WE CAN PUT OUR FINGER ON.
IT'D BE PROUD OF, BUT EACH AREA HAS THEIR OWN PASSION.
I THINK OURS IS BETWEEN 60 AND 100, HONESTLY, BUT IS THAT THE PASSION OF YOUTH OR IS THAT THE PASSION OF HILTON HEAD? AND COULD THEY EVEN ACHIEVE IT IF THEY WANT IT TO EACH AREA MAY HAVE A PASSION, BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T MAKE THIS PASSIONATE.
WE GOTTA MAKE THIS A GUIDE TO USE IN THOSE WHO CAN'T PERFORM IN THAT GUYS SHOULD TRY ANOTHER METHOD.
IF YOU CAN'T PERFORM ON THE WORK WE ESTABLISHED, THEN IT'S, MAYBE IT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU.
UM, AND BLUFFTON HAS DONE, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO OTHERS IS TO HAVE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY LAND, TO INCENTIVIZE, UM, THIS, THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT THAT'S, WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY GOT TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE, WE, WE, WE REPRESENT, UM, THE AMI IN, UH, IN, UH, IN A ORDERLY OR EVENLY FASHION.
OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA JUST BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND NOTHING GETS DONE.
CAN I JUST ADD TO, I AGREE, SORRY.
UH, JOE DOES, BY ADDING THE LANGUAGE UP TO 120 MEAN THAT WITHIN THAT RANGE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO 120, BUT IT IS PERMISSIBLE, WHICH THEN SOLVES WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF FRED WANTS TO STAY AT A HUNDRED, THE LANGUAGE SAYS HE CAN BE AT A HUNDRED BECAUSE IT'S BELOW THE ONE 20.
HE CAN HAVE, JOSH CAN HAVE THE ONE 20, BECAUSE IT'S UP TO ONE 20.
SO I THINK HAVING THOSE WORDS IN THERE DEFINES THE ABILITY TO HAVE EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING.
SO IT CREATES THAT FLEXIBILITY.
AND THE WAY I ENVISION THIS UNFOLDING, FOR EXAMPLE, IS A PROJECT COMES TO THE REGIONAL HOUSING FUND WHERE THE ADMINISTRATOR, THEY APPLY FOR A PROJECT IN A CERTAIN JURISDICTION THAT HAS SOME PRIORITIES.
SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S BLUFFTON AND IT'S UP TO, YOU KNOW, 120% OR A HUNDRED PERCENT, THAT PROJECT WOULD BE VETTED, IT WOULD SEE IF IT MEETS THE PRIORITIES WITHIN THAT JURISDICTION, BECAUSE WE'VE MET WITH THEM AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT, YOU KNOW, HOME OWNERSHIP IS A PRIORITY.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE WOULD VET THAT WE'D UNDERWRITE IT TO SEE IF IT'S FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS PROJECT FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS FUNDED WITH $50,000 OF THE REGIONAL HOUSING FUND.
UM, AND HERE'S THE, WHAT THE PROJECT WILL DO.
IT'LL CREATE 15 UNITS OF HOMEOWNERSHIP IT'LL SERVE THIS AMI POPULATION IS GOING TO BE IN THIS LOCATION.
UM, COMMUNITY WORKS, MAYBE THEY NEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN 50 AND THEN 50 COMES FROM THE REGIONAL FUND.
DO YOU AGREE THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS MEANINGFUL TO YOU? YES OR NO.
SO, I MEAN, YOU WOULD SEE THOSE, I MEAN, BASED ON THE WAY WE'VE LAID THIS OUT, YOU WOULD SEE THOSE PROJECTS AND THOSE PRIORITY AMRS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS PRIOR TO FUNDING BEING DEPLOYED.
SO WE HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT HOUR, AN INTERPRETATION THAT UP TO 120% DOES NOT PRECLUDE THAT IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER LESS THAN ONE 20, DEPENDING ON THE JURISDICTION.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION OR, OR COUNTER ARGUMENT TO THAT OR, OR ANY OPINION?
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OKAY.UM, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS SAID, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL MAKE ANYBODY COMFORTABLE IF WE MAKE IT PART OF THE DOCUMENT.
I THINK THIS BOARD, WE ALL UNDERSTOOD FROM DAY ONE.
I THINK THEY, ONE WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, UM, THAT THE INTENT WAS WE ALL SIGNED IN AND WE'D DO THE MOST WORTHY PROJECT, BUT THAT EACH JURISDICTION WOULD EVENTUALLY BENEFIT FROM A PROJECT.
I THINK THAT PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S A, A WORTHY GOAL THAT, THAT, SO THAT EACH JURISDICTION FOR ITS INVESTMENT CAN COME AWAY AND SAY, OKAY, WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING.
IS THERE ANY BENEFIT OR ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHT TO PUT THAT, UM, OBJECTIVE IN THIS DOCUMENT TO MAKE EVERYONE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT PRIORITIES IN BLUFFTON AND HILTON, OR I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PRIORITIES, BUT MARKET CONDITIONS IN EACH JURISDICTION.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYONE OR ARE WE JUST HAPPY WITH THE, UP TO ONE 20%? ANY COMMENTS I'M GOING TO LET STEVEN, CAUSE I SEE HIM GRABBING IT.
UM, AND I SURE DIDN'T MEAN TO SUPPORT YOUR, UM, BUDGET, BUT TO SUPPORT IT ON THE YEAR ONE, I THINK THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN ALL ALONG IS WHERE IS IT GOING TO FUNNEL INTO SOME PROJECT THAT'S NOT IN ANY OF OUR REAL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MUNICIPALITIES CAUSE THAT'S MY TERRITORY.
UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD GIVE COMFORT ALL OF US TO KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE, WE DON'T KNOW THE PROJECT YET, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE PROJECT.
THERE'S A DUE DATE FOR APPLICATIONS OR WHATEVER.
THE NEXT STEPS ARE, CAN HAVE A ROLLING.
IT HAS TO BE BY A CERTAIN DATE.
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO AT LEAST GET A PROJECT IN.
I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE OUT ON SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT QUITE READY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A BIG, DEVELOPER'S GOING TO COME SOMEWHERE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BENEFIT HILTON HEAD OR MAYBE HARTSVILLE OR US EVEN.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL THESE FUNDS.
SO IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
STEVEN, A LITTLE BIT OF JUST OUR, HOW TO MAKE IT FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.
WELL, MY THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAS, UM, GOING TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OVERSIGHT BOARD AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE PUTTING INSIDE OF THIS KIND OF GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT'S TAKEN PLACE IS THE OVERSIGHT BOARD WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFINE SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES.
AND WHETHER PREFERENCES CAN BE GIVEN TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR PREFERENCES CAN BE GIVEN FOR CERTAIN AMS, MAYBE THEY FUND AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, DEPENDING ON THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
SAY IF THE AVERAGE OF THE PROJECTS, 80% AMI, THEY GET HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING OR ELIGIBLE FOR MORE FUNDING.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WITH THE UP TO 120% OF, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS DISCUSSED AT A UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT, I KNOW WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL.
JUST LIKE JOSH SAID, THAT'LL BE A DISCUSSION THAT WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
WHETHER COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT OR NOT THAT THAT'S A DECISION THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT JUST GOING INTO WHAT THE BOARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO EACH APPOINT A MEMBER THAT'S GOING TO REPRESENT.
IT IS I'M HESITANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE TRIED TO LEGISLATE WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO DECIDE FOR THE WAY IT'S GOING TO GOVERN WHO WE'RE GOING TO RECORD WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THERE TO REPRESENT OUR OPINIONS TO DO THAT IS MAYBE WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THE BOARD AND MAKE THEM COME BACK WITH WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AND HAVE THAT APPROVED BEFORE THEY IMPLEMENT THEM.
MAYBE THAT'S A PLACE WHERE WE CAN CAPTURE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS IS, YOU KNOW, 120% AMI MAY GET FUNDED AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.
A HUNDRED PERCENT MAY GET FUNDED AT A DIFFERENT ADF BETTER AND SO ON AND SO FORTH THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS BY THE BOARD THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE HASHED OUT HERE.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE DEAD ENDS THAT KEEPS THIS FROM MOVING FORWARD AND NOT, NOT HAPPENING.
THAT'S JUST SOME THOUGHTS I HAD DURING THE DISCUSSION MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY, BUT JUST SOME THOUGHTS I HAD MR. MAYOR FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I AM I'M REESE BIRTH OFF ON THE DEPUTY IF YOU'VE HEARD OF US TODAY.
UM, I WANT TO AGREE WITH MR.
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TO ADVISE SITE WORDAGE IN OR VERBIAGE RATHER IN THE CURRENT DRAFT.AND WE DO FEEL THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF VARIABILITY GOING FORWARD, THAT AN OVERSIGHT BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO TACKLE A LOT OF THAT, UM, WITH THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION, UH, IN A TIMELY MANNER, GIVEN THE MARKET CONDITIONS AT THAT TIME.
AND SO THAT IS ONE ISSUE THAT I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TO, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF BUFORD IS SENSITIVE TO.
AND I, AND I ALSO, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT HAD BEEN CHANGED TO ADVISORY WHEN WE LAST MET.
UM, INITIALLY BEFORE LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WE, OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE IT AS A OVERSIGHT BOARD.
THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE DECISIONS AND NOT JUST PROVIDE ADVICE.
SO, UM, LET'S DECIDE ON, ON THE ONE 20 VERSUS THE 100 UNDERSTANDING THAT WHATEVER THE VOTE IS HERE, THAT'S THE DOCUMENT NUMBER THAT WILL GO TO THE JURISDICTIONS.
SO, UM, LET'S UM, GO TO THE COUNTIES FIRST BUFORD COUNTY HUNDRED OR 120 LAST TIME JUST TO, UP TO ONE 20 JASPER JOHN.
UM, BLUFFTON, I'M GOING TO LET FRED HE'S ON OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHAIR, SO I'M GONNA LET HIM SPEAK FOR US.
SO LET ME JUST MAKE MY NOTES, JASPER COUNTY 100 LOFTON.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH UP TO THAT COVERS EVERYTHING OR? OKAY, WELL, I'M SPEAKING TO YOU, SORRY.
WE'RE STILL WITH THE UP TO LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S THE NUMBER WE'RE VOTING ON.
SO WE HAVE BUFORD COUNTY, ONE 20 JASPER COUNTY, 100 BLUFFTON, 100 HILTON HEAD.
WHERE DO YOU WANT IN TO DOCUMENT ONE? WE, I, AGAIN, LAST LAST TIME, UM, HILTON HAD ONE AT ONE 50.
DO YOU WANT YOUR VOTE IS ONE 20 OR 100
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE AT A 100, BUT WE COULD ACCEPT ONE 20 UH, IS PORT ROYAL REPRESENT WHAT AM I FORGETTING? UH, HARLEYSVILLE.
WELL, COULD I FORGET TARDY I TH I THINK, I THINK THE UP TO, UM, ONE 20 COVERS BOTH, UM, BOTH CONCERNS AND DEFERENCE TO MR. HAMILTON.
UM, I, I THINK ONE 20 COVERS BOTH.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE GONE TO THE SAME THING WE ARE TRYING TO FIT.
ONE MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE KEEP ON FORGETTING WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMBERS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT RESULTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, HILTON HEAD IS GOING TO HAVE THE LEAST REPRESENTATION BECAUSE OF THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE LANDLOCKED SAND LAND AND ALL THAT.
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AREAS.THEN YOU'VE GOT JASPER WHO HAS PLENTY OF LAND WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT WE'RE THE LEAST IN THE WHOLE REALM OF THINGS.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN, AND I UNDERSTAND 20, AND WE HAVE THERE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, BUT CAN WE PUT SOMETHING IN THERE TO SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE A NOMINATOR.
SO IF HILTON HEAD IS DOING SOMETHING, THEY GET A, SOMETHING AN ADDITION AT THE TIME OF THE ADVISORY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO LET THE VISORY BOARD KEEP IT AT A HUNDRED.
LET THE ADVISORY BOARD SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE.
AND THEN WE AT THE ADVISORY BOARD OR WHATEVER IT IS, MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE WHATEVER BLUFFTON DOES, WHATEVER JASPER DOES, WHO'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED.
IT'S GOING TO BE HILTON HEAD, RIGHT? WHEN HILTON HEAD PUT SOME, UH, PUTS THIS HOUSING IN, IT'S ONLY GONNA AFFECT HILTON HEAD ESSENTIALLY.
BUT IF YOU PUT IT IN BLUFFTON, BLUFFTON WILL GO TO HELP THE PEOPLE GO TO HILTON HEAD, THEY'LL GO TO JASPER, THEY'LL STAY IN BLUFFTON.
YOU PUT IN JASPER FOR THE MOST PART AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO TO BLUFF.
OKAY? ALL I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE THAN JUST NUMBERS.
AND LAST MONTH, YOUR FIRST SENTENCE SAID IT ALL.
I'M GOING TO STAY WITH THAT AGREEMENT AND STAY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THIS IS THE CITY OF
SO THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL GO TO THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES SHOULD READ A HUNDRED PERCENT AS WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND LET IT FALL WHERE FALSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE IT HERE.
THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE IGA SHOULD HAVE THE TWO THINGS WE'VE DECIDED A HUNDRED PERCENT AND YEAR ONE IS ARPA-E MONEY PER WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.
JU JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON, I APOLOGIZE.
I DIDN'T CATCH ON TO WHAT JOHN SAID.
UM, WHAT I WOULD JUST KINDA ADD ONTO THAT IS WITH US HAVING AN OVERSIGHT BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE TALK ABOUT WITH OUR BUDGET, OUR COMP PLAN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHATEVER WE INITIALLY TALK ABOUT HERE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT CAN'T COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD.
THAT'S GRADED ON WHAT MAY NEED TO BE TWEAKED ADJUSTED THAT COMES BACK TO THIS BOARD IN THE FUTURE.
SO I THINK EVEN IF WE HAVE A STARTING POINT THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND, AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IF WE CAN GET STARTED, THAT IF A YEAR FROM NOW WE FOUND OUT IT MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED THAT THE ADVISOR, THE OVERSIGHT BOARD CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION DOES TO COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE TRIED THIS, WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE NEEDED.
AND AT LEAST WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TWEAK VERSUS SITTING HERE A YEAR FROM NOW AND HAVING NOTHING.
EXCELLENT POINTS, JOHN AND STEVE, EXCELLENT POINTS.
AND, UM, LISTEN, A LOT OF THINGS ARE GONNA EVOLVE AND I, I WOULD HOPE IT'S JUST THE SAME MESSAGE I'VE BEEN DELIVERING SINCE WE STARTED THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, LET'S NOT LET THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 101 20 DERAIL OF WHAT CAN BE A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BENEFIT US ALL.
YOU, REGARDLESS OF THAT HUNDRED TO ONE 20, IT'S TOO SMALL, A DIFFERENCE TO DERAIL THIS PROJECT.
ANYWAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THIS DOCUMENT OR SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THIS DOCUMENT? THE WHAT IF, BECAUSE IF NOT, THIS EIGHT PAGE DOCUMENT WITH WHAT WE DISCUSSED HERE TODAY WILL BE WHAT WILL GO TO ALL EIGHT COUNCILS FOR ADOPTION, SO TO SPEAK.
NOW I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ADVISORY TO OVERSIGHT.
SO THERE IS SOME CERTAINTY INTO, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT ALL THE MANAGERS, WHEN WE MET THE FIRST TIME WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY SECTION FOUR UNDER OPERATIONS, IF NOT A PAGE NUMBER ON THERE, I APOLOGIZE.
UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE ADVISORY JUST TO OVERSIGHT.
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I'D HAVE TO GO BACK UP, BUT I THINK THE BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES PRETTY MUCH STAYED THE SAME OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT IT'S NOT JUST THERE TO PROVIDE ADVICE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY OVERSIGHT, THEY'RE VOTING TO MAKE DECISIONS, TO RUN THE BOARD TO DETERMINE, RIGHT.UM, AS WE TRANSITION, IF WE TRANSITION TO A 5 0 1 C3, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE, THEY, THEY CHOOSE WHO THE PARTNERS ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AND NOT JUST PROVIDE ADVICE TO, UH, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST MET TO DISCUSS THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MANAGERS HAVE AGREED ON.
SO I WOULD BE HESITANT IF I DIDN'T.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT REALLY CLARIFIES CAUSE WHEN WE DID CHANGE IT AND KURT AND I KIND OF WORKED ON THAT FROM A LEGAL ASPECT, OVERSIGHT IS VERY DIFFERENT RIGHT THAN ADVISORY.
I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN, IF IT'S THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE AUTHORIZED BY YOU GUYS AS APPOINTEES TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, THEN AGAIN, THAT IS ACCURATE.
I THINK ORIGINALLY WE WERE JUST KIND OF BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THEY WERE MORE OF ADVISOR THAN DECISION MAKERS, SO THAT'S FINE.
SO THAT'S THE THIRD, UH, AMENDMENT TO THIS? THIS DOCUMENT IS ANY FOR EASE OF, UM, UNDERSTANDING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT CHANGE? OKAY.
SO THAT'S THE THIRD CHANGE WE'LL SEE.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
STEVEN SEEING NONE, UM, THIS DOCUMENT WITH THOSE THREE CHANGES OR WHAT WILL BE SENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION? UH, LET'S KEEP IT A OFFICIAL.
UM, THERE ARE, UH, I'M GOING TO ASK EVERY BOARD MEMBER AND JUST TO RE ITERATE THAT THE BOARD IS COMPOSED OF THE, UM, COUNTIES, ADMINISTRATOR CHAIR, AND ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, CAUSE THREE VOTES IN EACH COUNTY, EACH IN EACH JURISDICTION HAS THE MAYOR, THE ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS BOARD.
I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS PRESENT TO VOTE ON THIS.
IF SOMEONE WOULD, UM, PLEASE KEEP THE ROLE.
CAN I ASK SOMEONE TO DO THAT SO I CAN PUT THE VOTES ON VICKY? OKAY.
SO, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR A BUFORD PORT ROYAL, I GUESS THIS WILL BE A CELL LOCO RECOMMENDATION.
UH,
THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS BY THE BOARD LAWS.
HE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE TO SO LOCO HE CAN APPOINT IS A DEPUTY TO OKAY.
BUT, UM, BUT IT'S WRITTEN AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT HE'S NOT HERE, SO HE WILL NOT VOTE TODAY.
SO I'M JUST GONNA GO AROUND THE TABLE TO THE PEOPLE I SEE.
MR. LENNOX IS SECRETARY OF SO LOCO COMMAND.
I WILL SAY HEARING YOU AND WATCHING YOUR LIPS IN A DIFFERENT TIME ZONE IS REALLY DISCONCERTING.
VOTE FROM, UH, COUNCILMAN LENNOX, JUST PLEASE VOTE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE HILTON HEAD.
SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING YOUR SO LOCO RECOMMENDATION IS TO TAKE IT TO TOWN COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE? DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CAN VOTE ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SHE IS LOOKING FOR BACK THERE.
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VOTE, UM, UH, JASPER COUNTY.UH, MATT AS A REPRESENTATIVE, YOU HAVE THE MIC? YES.
UH, FROM BLUFFTON WE HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES.
UH, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON, MR.
UM, WHAT AM I FORGETTING? WE GOT HILTON HEAD.
UH, I KNOW I'M FORGETTING HARTSVILLE HARTSVILLE.
I KNEW SHE WAS GOING TO SAY YES, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE.
SO, UM, AND MY VOTE IS YES, AS WELL.
SO OF THE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT, UM, THERE'S SO LOCO BOARD RECOMMENDS THAT THIS AMENDED DOCUMENT WITH THE THREE AMENDMENTS BE SENT TO EACH JURISDICTION WHO WISHES TO BE PART OF THIS REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH INCLUDES BUFORD AT PORT ROYAL.
ONLY THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS.
JUST, UM, BEFORE WE ADJOURN JUST REMINDERS.
UM, NEXT MONTH WE'LL BE AT A PARTY BILL RECREATION CENTER.
UH, AUGUST 23RD AT, AT THE MEETING.
TIME IS 10:00 AM, ALL BOARD MEMBERS AND EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN, UH, BUFORD AND JASPER COUNTY HAS BEEN SENT A INVITATION FOR BREAKFAST AT 9:00 AM.
THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE BUFORD AND JASPER STATE DELEGATIONS.
UM, THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO JOIN US, UH, AT 10 O'CLOCK IS ALWAYS, AND, UM, THE AGENDA WILL BE WHATEVER OF OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE SHOW UP AT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS YET.
I WILL TELL YOU IN ADVANCE ONCE I GET THE RSVPS, UM, THAT HOUR WILL BE DEVOTED TO THEM SO THEY CAN, UM, PRESENT THEIR GOALS FOR THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
THIS IS THE FIFTH ANNIVERSARY MEETING OF SO LOCO AND THAT'S WHY THE BREAKFAST, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADJOURN.
SEE YOU NEXT MONTH, PLEASE RSVP THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN, UH,