Jul 25, 2022 Town of Hilton Head Community Services & Public Safety Committee

[1. Call to Order]

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OF THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF. >> I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR TODAY MONDAY JULY 25TH BEGINNING AT 10:00 A.M. KRISTA

. A CALL TO ORDER PLEASE. >> YES, SIR.

MRS. BECKER NEXT YEAR MR. STAMFORD AIR. MR. HARKINS HERE I'LL PRESENT

SIR CHRISTER IN TERMS OF WHERE COMPLIANCE. >> YES, SIR.

[4. Approval of the Minutes]

WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, SIR. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE THE MINUTES FOR APPROVAL FOR OUR MEETING ON MAY THE 20S 3RD 2 0 2 TO MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND, I CAN'T VOTE. I WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT GLENN WAS NOT AT THE MEETING. ALL THOSE THAT WE HAVE MOVED AND SECONDED.

[5. Appearance by Citizens Citizens who wish to address the Committee concerning the items on the agenda, may do so by contacting the Town Clerk at 843.341.4701, no later than 4:30 p.m., Friday, July 22, 2022. Citizens may also submit written comments concerning any of the items on the agenda through the eComment portal at Community Services & Public Safety Committee]

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY APPEARANCE BY

CITIZENS? NO SIR. >> I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE LINED

[6a. Beaufort County Quarterly Crime Statistics Report]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY QUARTERLY CRIMES STATISTICS REPORT. AND TODAY WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE LIEUTENANT ANDREW FORD SAID YES

,HE MIGHT TURN OUT TO BE MORE UGLY. >> YES, SIR.

IT'S ANDREW LAWSON. YES. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, SIR. GOOD MORNING. A LITTLE BIT OF BUSINESS NEWS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I CAN ANNOUNCE IT NOW IT'S OFFICIAL ANGELA BARNES HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE PIO POSITION FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HER POSITION IS NOW GOING TO BE STAFFED BY MAJOR JEFF PURDY WHO'S FROM THE NORTHERN ENFORCEMENT BRANCH AND OH HE WILL BE OUR BRANCH COMMANDER SOUTH OF THE BORDER OF THE BRIDGE HIS PARTY P U R D Y.

HE'S ON LEAVE THIS WEEK SO HE'LL BE HERE ON MONDAY. ALL RIGHT.

BUT HE'S VERY FAMILIAR. IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS THAT HE'S BEEN ON THE NORTH SIDE HAS AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND WITH US. HE'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING HIM. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

OH, PLEASE PROCEED. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I KNOW THE EVERYBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH YOU GOT THE THE STATIC STATS FOR REPORTING ANY SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT GOING OVER THESE? I CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ALL DAY LONG HERE.

I WON'T DO LT I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES LIEUTENANT, I THINK THE THING THAT WE'RE MOST INTERESTED IN WOULD BE THE ANY ONGOING TRENDS YOU SEE BOTH FAVORABLE AND UNFAVORABLE.

SO THE ONGOING TRENDS AS I REVIEW THESE I MADE SOME NOTES. OBVIOUSLY WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC HERE IN A MOMENT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ASSAULTS CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS.

I WON'T MAKE THE ASSUMPTION I'LL MAKE IT THAT IT IS ACTUALLY ACCURATE.

THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS AS YOU SEE THEM IN FRONT OF US RIGHT HERE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OR FIRST QUARTER OF TWENTY TWO SHOWS TWENTY AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.

TO ME THAT WAS FAIRLY ALARMING. BUT IN REVIEWING AND LOOKING AT HOW WE REPORT THESE THESE ALSO THE ALL INCLUSIVE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED AN ASSAULT AS AN ASSAULT AS AN ASSAULT JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED WITH TWO ACTORS THAT ARE HAVE SOME INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP OR IN

ACCORDANCE WITH STATE GUIDELINES. >> IT'S STILL LISTED AS AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. SO I DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL TO THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS OCCURRING JUST BY JOHN Q. PUBLIC WALK AROUND ON THE STREET.

I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER IN THE DOMESTIC AREA.

DO YOU THINK THIS IS EMANATING FROM THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES WITH WITH CODED WITH

RISING PRICES AND ETC ETC.? >> I LOVE WHERE I SHOULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT SIR.

I THINK THAT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SHOW WE'RE AT FULL CAPACITY HERE ON HILTON HEAD. BUT THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY COME UP OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TOURIST

SEASON COMING IN AND IT SURE IS A PARTY AROUND HERE. >> AND YOU KNOW AFTER AFTER THE HEAT, THE SUN AND THAT LONG WEEKEND THINGS HAPPEN. I CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WHETHER IT'S TO SAY WHETHER IT'S LOCAL OR VISITORS THAT THIS HAPPENS TO WITHOUT GOING INTO FURTHER DEPTH OF VICTIM REPORTING. BUT THEY SEEM OBVIOUSLY INCREASED WITH THE CAPACITY OF THAT'S ON THE ISLAND AS FAR AS THE POPULATION DENSITY HAS THE HAS THE CONCEPT NO CASH BAIL WORKED ITS WAY DOWN TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THIS AREA?

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>> YES, SIR. I HAVE NOT NOTICED THAT AT ALL. R R JUDICIAL BRANCH IS CONSISTENT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN MY OPINION. I'VE BEEN FOR 26 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. NOTHING EXTREME AND NOTHING TOO LENIENT THAT OUR BAIL SYSTEM IN MY OPINION AND WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT I SEE WHICH IS DAILY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OFFENSES COMMITTED AND IT WORKS AND IT WORKS.

THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO TOUCH ON TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SIR WAS CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY AS FAR AS TRENDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE AUTO DEATHS ARE UP A LITTLE BIT AND I CAN SPECIFICALLY SAY BECAUSE I READ THESE REPORTS THIS ISN'T SOMEBODY SNAPPING A WINDOW OUT AND JIMMY AND THE IGNITION ON A BMW MERCEDES THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT LEAVES THEIR FOB IN THE KEY THERE IN THE CUP HOLDER AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TOUCH HIM THAT OPENS UP NOW SUDDENLY CAN UNLOCK IT AND THAT'S A CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MOST PART THAT I BELIEVE WHAT THE AUTO THEFT WITH THE LARCENY IS THEY'RE VERY HIGH BE ANY MOTOR VEHICLES, THE LARCENY IS IS ALL INCLUSIVE. SO IT'S NOT SPECIFIC BUT SHOPLIFTING IS A TREND.

IT'S A IT'S AN INCREDIBLE TREND TO BE ANY MOTOR VEHICLES IS A HUMONGOUS TREND FOUND ONE THE OTHER DAY THAT JUST SOME BOUND PROPERTY THAT CAME IN AND IT'S NOT SPECIFIC.

WE KNOW WHERE THE TARGETS ARE AT BUT THOSE TARGETS NO MATTER HOW FAR APART THEY ARE MID ISLAND ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH AND THEY WILL RUN THAT THAT WHOLE AREA BIKE PATHS THAT EASY IN EASY OUT AND HIDE AND IT'S REALLY EASY TO DO SO BE ANY MOTOR VEHICLES IS EXTREMELY HIGH. THANK YOU. CAN BE PLACED I MEAN THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I GENERALLY ASK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE REPORTED ENOUGH BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN ANY DRUG RELATED OFFENSES I KNOW THAT WE HAVE NATIONWIDE AN INCREASING PROBLEM AND I'M WONDERING HOW ANY OF THAT IS IMPACTING OUR ISLAND AND WHERE THE DRUG STATS ARE FALLING HERE THE POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA SIMPLE POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA OFFENSES SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT HAVE BEEN THREE YEARS OUR OFFICERS MAKE A COURTESY ARREST NOT NECESSARILY TAKE SOMEBODY TO JAIL FOR SIMPLE POSSESSION MARIJUANA ANYMORE BUT THERE ARE LARGER QUANTITIES THAT SEEM TO BE SURFACING AND I WOULD SAY RECENTLY PROBABLY WITHIN THE LAST YEAR POSSESSION WITH INTENT WE'VE HAD SOME TRAFFICKING.

METHAMPHETAMINE IS A PROBLEM. IT'S SPECIFIC. IT'S NOT BROAD, IT'S ONLY SMALLER GROUPS. IT'S NOT THE OPEN AIR DRUG MARKET DOESN'T EXIST THAT WAS SQUASHED PROBABLY 10 15 YEARS AGO. IT'S JUST NOT ADVANTAGEOUS TO STAND ON THE STREET CORNER AND TRY TO SELL DRUGS. IT JUST DIDN'T IT GETS TOO MUCH ATTENTION. WE'VE HAD SOME REAL GOOD INTERDICTION STOPS AND SOME OPEN INVESTIGATED MISSIONS WHERE LARGE QUANTITIES AND IN OUR CAREER CRIMINALS HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. THOSE CHARGES HAVE BEEN MADE OF COURSE WHEN YOU SEE IT IN THE PAPER OR YOU SEE IT ON THE BLOTTERS, THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF DATE TIME GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AREN'T ARE REVEALED BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A OPEN AND ACTIVE INVESTIGATIONS BUT THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. BUT THE HEROIN OPIATES WE WON'T JUST CALL IT HEROIN, CALL IT OPIATES. THE FENTANYL AND THE RECENTLY WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING AND I SAY RECENTLY WITH SOME DEGREE OF RESERVATION THAT I KNOW OF WITH NO OVERDOSE BUT IT'S OUT THERE AND IT'S STILL RARE IT'S HELPED REARED ITS HEAD. IT'S IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR A WHILE UNTIL PEOPLE STOP WANTING TO USE TERMINAL OR OPIATES I SHOULD SAY AND I THINK THE LAST TIME I ASKED THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING IF THERE WAS ANY CORRELATION.

I WAS SAYING IF IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CORRELATION BETWEEN THE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE ON THE STATISTIC BOARDS AND DRUG USE IN DRUG WELL WITHOUT MYSELF DOING THE INTERVIEWS WITH THESE FOLKS THAT GET THAT WE ARRESTED FOR BEING IN POSSESSION OF THESE NARCOTICS STUFF WHERE THEY COME FROM AND THE THEIR BACKGROUND YEAH THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO FEED A HABIT AND AN

UNLOCKED CAR IS DEFINITELY REALLY EASY. >> IT'S A SOFT TARGET.

IT'S EXTREMELY EASY FOR THESE FOLKS TO DO IT AND IT'S NOT INCLUSIVE TO 30 YEAR OLDS.

IT'S IT'S JUVENILES AND I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP IT WAS A GREAT SHOT.

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>> DID YOU MISS IT? THOSE ARE OUR INVESTIGATORS DIDN'T KNOW THAT BLINK OF AN EYE AND HOW TO MAKE IT LOOK BACKWARDS. OKAY, THEY'RE THERE.

THOSE ARE YOUR INVESTIGATORS WORK THIS ISLAND IN SOUTH THE BROAD RIVER BRIDGE.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB ON. SO WE'RE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THEM AND ALL OF YOU AND WE VALUE YOUR A YEAR HARD WORK. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT I OFTEN SAY AND SAY IT AGAIN UNTIL SOMETHING CHANGES IN MY MIND THIS IS AN ISSUE I WISH THERE WERE MORE ATTENTION GIVEN TO IT FOR THE TIME BEING IF WE CAN REMIND EVERYONE WHAT YOU TELL US BRILLIANTLY TO TAKE YOUR VALUABLES OUT OF YOUR CAR PUT YOUR CAR IN YOUR GARAGE IF YOU CAN EVEN IF YOU DO THEN IN BOTH INSTANCES LOCK YOUR CAR, TAKE YOUR GUNS, TAKE KEY FOBS, TAKE EVERYTHING OF VALUE OUT OF YOUR CAR. IF THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE DRUGS AND THE THEFT THAT WILL HELP RESOLVE SOME OF IT MAYBE IN A VERY SMALL WAY.

BUT IF IT'S A CRIME AGAINST OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO HAVE IT, THERE MAY BE SOME SMALL IMPACT ON IT REGARDLESS IT'S GOOD GOOD ADVICE AND WE THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE'S LISTENING WHEN WE SAY TAKE YOUR VALUABLES OUT OF YOUR CAR AND LOCK YOUR CAR.

PUT IT AWAY IN THE GARAGE IF YOU CAN. THE FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY FOR MANY IS OUT THERE AND NOT TO OPEN UP AN EXTENDED CONVERSATION BUT SURELY THE NUMBER OF FIREARMS THAT ARE STOLEN FROM CARS IN THE RECENT HISTORY ARE EXTREMELY HIGH.

I CAN SAY THIS SAFELY TEN IN THE LAST TEN DAYS WHILE 10 IN THE LAST 10 DAYS AND SPECIFICALLY ADD TO THAT LIST TAKE YOUR FIREARMS CAR WHEN YOU LOCK YOUR GUARD, LEAVE YOUR CAR REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT IS AND THE FIREARMS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE CAR IS

PREDOMINANTLY UP IN THE HANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE. >> I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME VEHICLE COLLISIONS. YOU ASKED ABOUT SOME TRENDS THINGS.

I KNOW THE HOPE. >> I'M NOT SAYING IT PREMATURELY BUT I KNOW THERE ARE THREE PHASES THAT ARE COMMON IN THE TOWN HILTON HEAD UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR IN THE BUSINESS 278 THOSE BAYS WORK SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD IS WAY DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT ANYWAY WITH THE TRAFFIC I'VE THOUGHT MAYBE SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COLLISIONS WITHOUT THE INJURIES ON HILTON HEAD BEING HIGH IN THE FIRST QUARTER THAT I NOTICED MYSELF THAT THOSE ARE JUST ACROSS THE BOARD AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST QUARTER 2022 VERSUS THE FIRST QUARTER OR THE LAST PREVIOUS THREE YEARS THE WITH THE FATALITY IS LOW.

>> AH. BUT THE YOU KNOW THE NUMBER ONE COLLISION CAUSATION IN THE TOWN HILTON HEAD IS A REAR END COLLISION IS THE NUMBER ONE. THANK GOODNESS PREDOMINANTLY THEY'RE THE SLOW SPEEDS. PEOPLE COME INTO A STOP OBVIOUSLY AND OF COURSE IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT THESE OCCUR IS IN YOUR RUSH HOUR OR RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC WHEN YOU START GOING IN THE LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN WE HAVE PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS EXCEPT OUTSIDE OF THAT RUSH HOUR WINDOW, THE LEFT TURN SEEMS TO BE THE IN FRONT OF BOND MOVING TRAFFIC SEEMS TO

BE VERY, VERY BRINGS UP THE INJURY RATE. >> THAT'S THE SECOND COLLISION NOT NECESSARILY SIDESWIPED BUT WE'VE DEFINITELY GOT A TRAFFIC PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE RUNNING INTO EACH OTHER AND IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST WHEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC.

I LOOKED AT THESE NUMBERS THEY'RE NOT TO TO OFF BAD. >> HOPEFULLY THEY CAN BE BETTER. IT'S MY INFORMATION THAT I HAVE IS A LITTLE MORE EXTENDED.

I'VE GOT SOME MARKS IN HERE. WILLIAM WILLIAM HYLTON PARKWAY LET'S JUST SAY IT LIKE THIS IS THE RELATIVE ELEMENT TO OUR COLLISIONS AT THE TRAFFIC. ENGINEERS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE TIMING IN MY OPINION. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME ON HILTON HEAD AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THEM AND PROTECTING THOSE INTERSECTION AND MAKING THINGS SAFE.

EVEN THOUGH THIS NUMBER IS HIGHER AT ONE FIFTY EIGHT THE FIRST QUARTER 20 TO LIEUTENANT I'D LIKE TO TURN TO MY COLLEAGUE HERE GLENN. SO YOU THINK THAT YOU THANKED HIM. LIEUTENANT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE SERVICE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDES US WITH REFERENCE TO CRIME IS OUTSTANDING AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. ALL OF US ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS SPEEDING UP THE MORE VIOLENT PERSONAL CRIMES. I'M WONDERING IS THERE A CONCENTRATION OF LOCATION WHERE THOSE MIGHT OCCUR ON THE ISLAND? I WOULD BE WRONG TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION WITHOUT REVIEWING THIS THIS DATA FROM WHAT I'VE

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>> A LOT OF IT IS SHORT TERM RENTALS. YOU KNOW, WITH THE THE MORE ACTIVE PARTY AREAS THEN THINGS GO SOUTH AND SUNDAY AFTERNOON 5 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG HOT WEEKEND. SO THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN. WE GET PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE IT'S NONSPECIFIC. I'M NOT PICKING ON OUR TOURISTS.

THEY'RE HERE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. HAVE A NICE TIME.

BUT LIFE ISN'T PERFECT. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE PREDOMINANTLY MOST OF IT'S COMING FROM. I DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO STATISTICAL DATA TO BACK THAT UP. IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT DATA TO US AS A AS A SUPPLEMENT TO SEE WHERE IT'S GOING ON. I ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN A SERIOUS REVISION OF OUR ORDINANCES DEALING WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS TO TRY TO CONTROL SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING THERE .

WE DO GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE AND THE LIKE. AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ELECTED NOT TO DO NOT TO ENFORCE LOCAL ORDINANCES WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WE REGRET FRANKLY BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS AS THEY SAY I SAID THAT I THINK THAT YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB

FOR US WITH REFERENCE TO CRIME. >> I'M CONCERNED TRAFFIC CONTROL.

>> I SEE THAT THE COLLISIONS ARE BEING MET, THAT NUMBERS ARE UP BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL. WE NEVER SEE OFFICERS OUT CHECKING SPEED.

WE NEVER SEE OFFICERS OUT OR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES OUT CHECKING PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING RED LIGHTS. IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS A ONGOING SPORT HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO SEE HOW MANY EXTRA CARS CAN SQUEEZE THROUGH RED LIGHTS.

I FOR ONE WHEN I'M THE LATE CAR AND I GET THE GREEN LIGHT I ALWAYS HESITATE FOR A FEW SECONDS AND LOOK BOTH WAYS TO SEE WHO'S PLAYING THAT GAME. SO I WONDER WHY I HAVE THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT OR AM I JUST WRONG?

>> WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE CONSTANT WRITING CITATIONS AND ISSUING WARNINGS MAKING SURE

MAKING THOSE TRAFFIC STOPS CONSISTENTLY. >> THE NUMBERS AND THE NUMBERS ARE THERE. THEY MAY NOT BE AS HIGH AS THEY WERE IN FIRST QUARTER 21 WHICH I KNOW THEY'RE NOT WRITTEN WARNINGS ARE. SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OFFICERS TO MAKE A STOP AND EDUCATE AND THEY'RE REALLY NOT FORCED TO WHETHER THEY WRITE A CITATION OR A WARNING IS THIS DISCRETIONARY THEIR POINT DEPENDING ON HOW THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE TRAFFIC OFFENSE, RECKLESS DRIVING DOESN'T GET A WRITTEN WARNING.

LIEUTENANT, RELATED TO THAT CAN YOU SHARE WHERE YOU ARE IN TERMS OF YOUR TABLE ORGANIZATION PERSON POWER WISE ? ARE YOU AT FULL EMPLOYMENT? ARE YOU DOWN 10 PERCENT 15 20 PERCENT IN TERMS OFFICERS? I CAN SPEAK FOR SOUTHERN ENFORCEMENT BRANCH RIGHT NOW WHICH IS PART OF THE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND WE ARE SIX OFFICERS DOWN, SEVEN OFFICERS DOWN. SO WE JUST A WHOLE GROUP OF THEM JUST WE JUST HIRED AND HAVE JUST REPORTED FORUM REPORTED THIS THREE AM REPORTED THIS WEEKEND AND NEXT FRIDAY OF THE OTHER THREE WILL REPORT SOUTH OF THE BROAD THREE OF OUR PRIOR EXPERIENCE AND THREE OF OUR BRAND ROOKIES. BUT THAT'S GOOD NEWS .

IT IS GOOD NEWS . OUR NUMBERS AREN'T AS BAD AS PEOPLE WOULD THINK.

WE STILL RUN IN MINIMUM A NINE ON A SHIFT. 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME.

NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF THE TIME WE'D LIKE TO HAVE 15. I WOULD LOVE THAT 15 WERE TOYOTA 12TH. BUT AND WE DO. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. STAFFORD IS ABOUT THE IT'S JUST MORE INFORMATION. WE RUN TRAFFIC BLITZES FREQUENTLY. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE TAP THEY'RE DOUBLE TASKED.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY CORE POSITIONS FOR A TRAFFIC TEAM OR THEY JUST CALL TAKERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. WE TRY TO DO MORE WITH LESS AND OF COURSE WE DO.

EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BUT WHEN WE DO THESE TRAFFIC BLITZES, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE HIGH TOPIC OFFENSES THAT WE LOOK AT. ONE IS TAILGATING TOO IS RECKLESS DRIVING.

THREE IS A RUNNING RED LIGHTS. AND THE OTHER ONE IS OBVIOUSLY SPEED OR SPEED RELATED ACCIDENTS AREN'T NEARLY AS HIGH AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD THINK. IT'S USUALLY INATTENTION THAT

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SO WE DO DO THAT. WE HAVE THOSE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS SOME NEW TRAFFIC BLITZ IS COMING. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC JUST TO HILTON HEAD THE RUNNING OF THE RED LIGHTS AND YES, THEY PLAY THE GAME THEY DO IT ON ROSEHILL.

THEY DO IT ON MY SCREEN. THEY DO IT AT MAL FIRST ROAD UP AND DOWN THEIR 278 CAUSEWAY ALL THE WAY FROM THE PROPERTY. SO BEAUFORT COUNTY PROPERTY SO WE HAVE HIGHWAY PATROL RUNNING ON HILTON HEAD AS FREQUENTLY AS THEY CAN BUT THEIR NUMBERS ARE DOWN.

WE STEAL PEOPLE FROM THEM AND WE HAVE AND WE WILL CONTINUE AND BRING THEM HERE TO US.

LIEUTENANT, I'LL TRY AND MAKE PAY CLOSER ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE TRAFFIC STOPS OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE TRAFFIC STOPS THEY SAY OH, THERE IS ENFORCEMENT HERE AND I'LL SLOW DOWN OR I WON'T RUN THAT RED LIGHT. AND I HOPE THAT THAT IS IN FACT WHAT HAPPENS ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT. I MENTIONED CRIME. I'VE HEARD THE SOLICITOR GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT HIS CAREER CRIME TASK FORCE WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK UP THE PEOPLE AND THAT ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS. DO YOU SEE A LOT OF REPEAT OFFENDERS? YES. MATTER OF FACT, I MARKED THIS OUT AS TALKING POINT CASES CAME UP IN IT AND IT DID WELL I SET YOU UP FOR WE HAVE AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PROSECUTE FOR IT.

THE RECENTLY WE HAVE A ONE PARTICULAR PERSON THERE. THERE'S SEVERAL THAT ARE CAREER IN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK INTO CARS AND THINGS LIKE THIS. THESE CAREER CRIMINALS.

ONE WAS WE JUST GOT HIS BOND REVOKED AND I BELIEVE HE WAS OUT ON BOND FOR 16 OR 17 BE ANY MOTOR VEHICLES. HE'S OUT ON BOND. THIS GUY'S A CRIMINAL.

HE'S BEEN A CAREER CRIMINAL SINCE HE WAS 14 YEARS OLD, 15 YEAR OLD.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'VE DETECTED. LAST WEEK WE GOT ANOTHER DNA HIT ON HIM. HE'S SITTING IN JAIL RIGHT NOW FOR BEING A MOTOR VEHICLES.

HE WILL BREAK IN AND THIS IS A GUY THAT WILL SNAP YOUR WINDOW OUT TO STEAL WHAT'S IN THE FRONT SEAT, NOT JUST CHECK THE DOORS. WITH HIS ARREST AND THE ARREST OF A COUPLE OTHERS THAT KIND OF MADE SOME HEADLINE NEWS AROUND HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS DOWN ON THE SOUTH END WE'LL SAY THAT OUR RB ANY MOTOR VEHICLE RATE HAS GONE DOWN TO SOME DEGREE. NOT ENOUGH TO NOTICE BUT THERE'S STILL A FEW OUT THERE.

THESE SPECIFICS ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. HE'S I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SERVE THE ONE ON HIM YET OR NOT FOR THE DNA HIT BUT THEY'VE REVOKED HIS BOND AND THE PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN MADE. THE SOLICITORS WELL AWARE OF THIS AND YES I'M WERE RELAYING INFORMATION TO THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT COMES UP ANY TIME THESE PEOPLE REAR THEIR HEAD IN COMMITTING THESE CRIMES AND THE PROBABLE CAUSE ESTABLISHED FOR THEIR ARREST ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE OUT ON BOND FOR THE EXACT SAME THING.

NOW IT'S ANOTHER HEARING. IT'S NOT JUST SOMEBODY WAVED A PEN AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE IN FRONT. THE JUDGE HAVE NINE. THEY NEED TO BE IN JAIL, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND IT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THE CRIME THAT'S BEING COMMITTED. THEY'RE IN JAIL. I CAN'T COMMIT THE CRIME.

I MEAN I DON'T MEAN TO BE OVERLY OBVIOUS BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

LASTLY, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE COUNTY DETENTION FACILITY? IS IT FULL OR ARE THERE ARE THERE BEDS THAT WE COULD BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO? I CHECKED THE STATUS LAST WEEK AS A MATTER OF FACT. NO WORD ABOUT I THINK THE NUMBER THAT POPPED IN MY HEAD WAS ABOUT 48 PERCENT. WELL, MAYBE CLOSER TO 50, MAYBE 49 PERCENT WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER 50 THERE'S PLENTY OF BEDS.

GOT PLENTY OF BEDS AVAILABLE GOTTEN CATCH THE BAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, LIEUTENANT. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. FOLLOW UP TO TURN LAST NIGHT. I THINK YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT AND THAT IS IF WE'VE GOT TRAUMA CRIME NUMBERS AND VEHICLE COLLISION NUMBERS ON THE RISE, DO YOU ROUTINELY ALLOCATE STAFF TO WHERE THOSE TRENDS ARE HIGHEST? WE DO DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT, SIR. THAT DIRECT ENFORCEMENT INFORMATION COMES OUT IN MASS SORTED THROUGH ANALYSIS THAT'S OBTAINED THROUGH OUR DATA REPORTING AND IT COMES OUT EVERY WEEK CURE MORRIS IS HERE. SHE'S THE ONE THAT SPITS THAT OUT TO US AND PROVIDES IT TO THE MASSES STARTED AND HE DIRECTS THAT TO THE SUPERVISORS OVER THE SHIFT IN BETWEEN CALLS FOR SERVICE ONCE THE REPORTS ARE CAUGHT UP IF YOU GUYS WANT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE VERSUS EXTRA PATROLS BECAUSE WE HAVE EXTRA PATROLS

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EASTBOUND IS A GREAT TIME TO STOP PEOPLE FROM RUNNING THAT LINE RIGHT THERE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT THIS SECOND THAT THAT IS A HARD INTERSECTION BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE PRETTY WELL I GUESS GENERALLY SPEAKING. LIEUTENANT, DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE INCREASING OR INCREASED COVERAGE ON THE ISLAND VERSUS SAME TIME LAST YEAR? WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME. I GOT A HIT. HIT IT ON.

WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY WORKING ON A DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT ASPECT WHERE WE'LL PULL SOME OVERTIME DEPUTIES THEY'D WANT US TO SIGN UP JUST TO RUN TRAFFIC AND IT'S AREA SPECIFIC. THEY WILL BE GIVEN TARGETED AREAS IN ORDER TO WORK WHEN KICKOFF OF SUMMER HIT WE RAN A BLITZ THAT RAN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CALLIGNEE TRAFFIC CIRCLE ALL THE WAY FROM GUMTREE ROAD ON ON ON THE CROSS ISLAND. AND IT WAS EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE.

I THOUGHT THE NUMBERS WERE EXTREMELY HIGH. IT'S NOT HARD TO FIND 70 IN A 55 IS PRETTY EASY. IT'S NOT THAT WE WANT RIGHT AGAINST THE CITATIONS.

IT'S THE ACTUAL ACT OF OF THE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT WHETHER A CITATION OR AWARD IS GIVEN.

YES, SIR. THAT'S THOSE DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW AND IT WILL UNVEIL THAT PROBABLY TO THE GUYS AND THEY'LL BE ON IT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK. WE CAN HAVE OK.

I WILL BE ANXIOUS TO SEE SECOND QUARTER NUMBERS. THANK YOU, LIEUTENANT.

ANY OTHER KEY POINTS YOU WANTED TO SHARE TODAY AT ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. YES, SIR.

[6b. Consideration of an Ordinance Authorizing the Town Manager to Take Such Actions as May be Necessary to Effectuate an Exchange and Transfer of Real Property Owned by the Town of Hilton Head Island with the Beaufort County in Exchange for the Receipt of Certain Real Property Located on Hilton Head Island.]

OK. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION OF AN AUDIENCE AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO TAKE SUCH ACTIONS AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE.

IN EXCHANGE IN TRANSFER OF REAL ESTATE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY IN EXCHANGE FOR THE RECEIPT OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON HILTON HEAD . MR. GRUBER. GOOD MORNING.

MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SEE

YOU GET THE PERFECT IN YOUR PACKETS TODAY. >> THIS ITEM IS COMING BEFORE YOU BASED UPON A SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS THAT THE TOWN MANAGER HAS BEEN HAVING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND LOOKING AT PROPER ON THE ISLAND THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATE A SWAP BETWEEN THE TWO WOULD ULTIMATELY SERVE THE INTERESTS OF BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY. AND SO I WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT POSSIBLY MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION. SO THE FIRST PROPOSAL THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ACTUALLY TWO CONTIGUOUS PARCELS YOU SEE THEM THERE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN. THESE PROPERTIES ARE KNOWN AS BARKER FIELD AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE LISTED AS PARTIALLY PARCEL B BUT BOTH OF THEM EFFECTIVELY MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY PARCEL A IS JUST SHY OF THREE ACRES AND PARCEL B IS JUST SHY OF EIGHT ACRES. THEY'RE CURRENTLY USED FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES BOTH FROM THE COUNTY PROGRAM AND FROM THE TOWN PROGRAMING IN THE MATERIALS.

ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE COUNTY HAS REQUESTED IS THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR TRANSFERRING THE TITLE TO THESE PROPERTIES TO THE TOWN THE COUNTY WOULD ASK THAT THEY RETAIN THE ABILITY TO USE THESE PROPERTIES FOR THE PROGRAMING THAT THEY CURRENTLY OFFER.

WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.

IT WOULD LIKELY TAKE COORDINATION BETWEEN ISLAND REC AND THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. BUT ASSUMING THAT THOSE TWO ENTITIES CAN GET TOGETHER TO WORK OUT A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE SCHEDULE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS PARTICULAR TRANSFER. ONE THING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO SEE IF I CAN HIGHLIGHT HERE.

THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY.

IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED. THE COUNTY HAS A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THAT AND THAT ESSENTIALLY CONSTITUTES THE PARKING AREAS FOR THE PARK ITSELF.

SO IN ADDITION WE'VE REFERENCED IN THIS DOCUMENT HERE THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE LEASE

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ALL RIGHT. SO MISS ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS ON THIS PARCEL? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM FRANK SOUL ABOUT JOINT USE OF THE FIELD WITH THE COUNTY AND HOW FEASIBLE THAT WOULD BE. ACTUALLY BE REAL FEASIBLE ACTUALLY HAPPENING NOW.

JUST THE OTHER WAY WE WE WORK WITH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO SCHEDULE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES OUT THERE. IT WOULD BE JUST THE OPPOSITE. THEY WOULD WORK WITH US TO DO THAT. WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND DOESN'T MATTER WHO OWNS IT. I WANT US TO HAVE CONTROL IN THE TOWN OF ILLINOIS.

BUT I THINK THAT RELATIONSHIP WILL CONTINUE. THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE TO US IS SO VALUABLE THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH A JOINT USE WOULD NOT BE

DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR PROGRAMING. >> ACTUALLY ALLOW A SALARIED 290 TO INCREASE OUR PROGRAMING AND KNOWING THAT THAT'S PART OF THE INVENTORY THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN AND SCHEDULING FACILITIES IS REALLY TO ME THIS IS EXCITING AND PROBABLY LONG OVERDUE. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING. I I CAN RECALL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS FIVE YEARS AGO. SO WE'RE FINALLY TO THE TABLE AND THIS IS REALLY POSITIVE FOR

YOU. >> YEAH. AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY.

AND ALSO THE NEXT PIECE THAT WE'LL BE UP THERE IS ALSO NEXT ON OPPORTUNITY.

FRANKLY, IN TERMS OF JOINT USE AT THE END OF THE DAY WHO'S IN CHARGE, DAN?

>> THE DAY IN THE JOINT USE PROGRAMING WE WOULD BE AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE FACILITIES AND COORDINATING THE MAINTENANCE JUST LIKE WE DO WITH CHAPLAIN PARK, LIKE WE DO WITH THE PARCEL THAT JOSH SPOKE ABOUT ACROSS THE STREET. SO WE WORK TOGETHER AND THEN THE SCHEDULE WOULD COME OUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE DO ON A MONTHLY BASIS IS THAT WE PROVIDE FACILITIES WITH THE SCHEDULING OF THE PARK AND WHAT'S COMING UP AND THEY HAVE THAT SO THEY CAN WORK AROUND MAINTENANCE AND SAME THING VISE VERSA.

IF SOMETHING'S HAPPENING A PARK THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO SCHEDULE ACTIVITIES DIFFERENTLY WE GO AHEAD AND WORK AROUND IT. THANK YOU.

PLEASE CONTINUE THE NEXT PERSON TO GET A SERIES OF TWO PARCELS BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED HERE.

WE REFER TO THIS AS THE OLD SCHOOLHOUSE PROPERTY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE DID USED TO BE AN OLD GOVERNMENT BUILDING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME WAS USED AS A SCHOOL AT ONE POINT IN TIME. IT WAS USED AS A MUNICIPAL COURT. IT'S HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS BUT IT NOW IS PARKING FACILITY UP HERE ALONG 278 HILTON PARKWAY AND THEN BACK HERE THERE ARE BASKETBALL COURT AND THEN SEVERAL I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN CONVERTED TO PICKLE BALL COURTS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME THEY WERE AT ONE POINT IN TIME TENNIS COURTS PARCEL C HAS JUST A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRES AND PARCEL D IS JUST A LITTLE OVER FOUR ACRES SO JUST SHY OF ABOUT

SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES IN TOTAL IN THE INTERESTS OF THE PUBLIC. >> CAN YOU IDENTIFY FURTHER

WHERE THIS IS WITHIN THE CONTEXT? >> YES.

SO THIS ROAD COMING RIGHT HERE IS 278. THIS IS ADRIANNA LANE WHICH COMES OFF OF IT RIGHT HERE AND IT ACCESS IS IT'S AN EASEMENT THAT GOES BACK TO SERVE THESE RESIDENTIAL PARCELS RIGHT HERE SPANISH WELLS ROAD INTERSECTION IS A LITTLE JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN HERE. THANK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR PERSON.

PLEASE PROCEED. SO THIS IS A TOWN OWNED PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED AT THE

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END OF JENKINS ROAD WHICH IS THIS ROADWAY RIGHT HERE. >> AND THE COUNTY IS REQUESTING THAT THIS PARCEL PARCEL G WHICH IS RIGHT AT ONE ACRE BE TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE IT IN FURTHER SENSE OF THIS FISHING BOAT, THE PIER THAT THEY HAVE HERE. SO THERE IS NOT A LANDING BACK HERE.

THERE IS THE MARINA ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROADWAY BUT HERE IS COUNTY OWNED INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY'VE HISTORICALLY HAD SOME PARKING RIGHT HERE BUT THEY'D LIKE TO EXPAND THE ABILITY FOR PARKING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA . QUESTION THE TOWN DIDN'T HAVE ANY PRIOR USE OF THAT PROPERTY AT THIS POINT. NO.

WE'VE REALLY HELD OFF ON REALLY IDENTIFYING ANY KIND OF USES OF IT.

THE PARCEL THAT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH HERE IS ACTUALLY PART OF A MUCH LARGER 30 ACRE PARCEL. BUT THIS PARTICULAR PORTION UP HERE WAS ALREADY SUBDIVIDED OFF WHEN THE TOWN ACQUIRED IT. AND AT THIS POINT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE IDENTIFIED ANY POTENTIAL USES FOR IT. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

ARE THEY LIMITED TO PARKING THERE IN TERMS OF USE OR WHAT? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE INDICATED ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE ANY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS OR ANYTHING THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE LAND.

IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR.

BUT I GUESS IN THEORY IT COULD BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT THAT PERSON MIGHT BE ZONED FOR ALTHOUGH I AM NOT AWARE OF WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED. DOES ANYONE KNOW DOES ANYONE HERE TODAY KNOW WHAT IT'S SOUND? I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD SAY IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY GET FOR YOU. >> IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME THAT IT WAS LIKELY A PART OF THIS LARGER PIECE HERE AND I BELIEVE LEAVE WHEN THE TOWN ACQUIRED THAT I BELIEVE THEY REZONING IT SO IT MAY BE PARKS AND RECREATION ZONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU. PLEASE CONTINUE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST AND AGAIN IT'S TWO PARCELS BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED.

FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES THIS IS THE CROSS ISLANDS PARKWAY COMING OVER ON TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ISLAND HERE. THIS IS HELMSMAN AS WAY. SO THIS IS HOW YOU WOULD GET TO THE HAIG POINT FERRY BOAT LANDING. AND THIS IS HOW YOU GET OVER TO THE MARINA WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE WAS CONVEYED TO THE TOWN I BELIEVE AS PART OF THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY PROJECT.

THIS IS WHERE THE ACTUAL PARK FOR THE CROSS ISLAND BOAT LANDING WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IS LOCATED. AND THEN THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE WE'VE GOT IT INDICATED IN RED.

IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A MUCH LARGER PARCEL THAT COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING TRANSFERRING ANY PORTION OF THIS PARCEL BUT IN ORDER TO GET ACCESS FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS PURPOSES HERE THE COUNTY IS REQUESTING THAT THIS PARCEL BE SURVEYED AND B SUBDIVIDE IT OFF TO ULTIMATELY BE TRANSFERRED TO THEM.

PART OF THE REASON IS THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE. THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT ACQUIRING THIS PROPERTY EITHER DIRECTLY OR BY EMINENT DOMAIN IN ORDER TO PURSUE THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE FUSCA ISLAND FERRY TERMINAL ON THIS PARCEL.

ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE TOWN HAS REQUESTED WITH REGARDS TO THESE PARCELS FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT THIS PUBLIC BOAT LANDING REMAIN OPEN FOR USE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THE PARKING THAT IS LOCATED HERE AGAIN BE OPEN FOR USE BY THE PUBLIC ESSENTIALLY AS IT EXISTS NOW FOR THE PARKING OF BOATS, TRAILERS AND VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC ACCESS.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THE TOWN BE GIVEN A SEAT AT THE TABLE WITH REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THE FERRY TERMINAL AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY GO ALONG WITH THAT ESSENTIALLY WANTING TO SECURE THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COUNTY UNDERTAKES IS DONE WITHIN THE THOUGHT OF BENEFIT TO THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE IS KEPT IN THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND AND IS DONE IN THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS GOING TO BE KEEPING WITH THE BRANDING AND AND CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND.

SO FROM THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE I WOULD ASSUME BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO STOP THERE AND GET APPROVAL BEFORE PROCEED, CORRECT? WELL WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS ESSENTIALLY BEING PARTNERS WITH THEM UPFRONT AS THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE DESIGN PLANS. THAT WAY THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY OBJECTIONS AT LEAST FROM OUR AND AT THAT POINT. AND THEN IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL REVIEW PROCESSES AS IT GOES FORWARD. QUESTIONS LIKE JOSH THE PARTIAL F YES.

YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME PLANS. IS THAT THEN REDUCED TO AN AGREEMENT OR IS EASIEST

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DEVELOPS MOVE FORWARD. >> FINAL QUESTION PARTIAL E.. WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE ACREAGE SO PERSONAL E IS ONE POINT FIVE TWO ACRES AND THEN AGAIN HERE WHEN WE PREPARED THESE DOCUMENTS WE WERE INITIALLY LOOKING AT BEING AN EASEMENT IN OUR SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE THIS PARCEL OVER HERE.

THEY WOULD LIKE THE TOWN TO CONSIDER SUBDIVIDING OFF THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND TRANSFERRING IT TO THEM SO THEY WOULD WIND UP WITH ONE CONTIGUOUS PARCEL.

THANK YOU. SO MAYOR. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE BOAT LANDING AGAIN AND JUST THE WORDING IS LOOKING TO PROTECT THAT BOAT LANDING.

IT'S USED HEAVILY BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND AND THE CONDITION IS THAT THE TOWN HAS REQUESTED. IS THERE ANY WAY TO GO FROM REQUESTING TO REQUIRING? WELL, YES, THIS WOULD BE A CONDITION OF THE PURCHASE AND TRANSFER OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND SO IF AT ANY POINT. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WERE DOING WERE PREPARING THE ACTUAL REAL ESTATE DOCUMENTS WE COULD MAKE THAT EITHER A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND OR WE CAN PUT IT IN SOME KIND OF REVERT CLAUSE THAT IF FOR SOME REASON IT SHOULD FAIL TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT PURPOSE IT COULD REVERT TO THE TOWN.

BUT EITHER WAY WE WOULD LOOK TO FORMALLY AND LEGALLY SECURE THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PUBLIC TO USE THE BOAT LANDING AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS TODAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? IS THERE EMOTION FROM OUR GROUP HERE TO RECOMMEND TO OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE TOWN COUNCIL THAT WE APPROVE PROCEED WITH THE EXCHANGE PROGRAM BETWEEN HILTON HEAD AND BEAUFORT TONY.

BILL, I WOULD MOVE WE PROCEED AND RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL THE NECESSARY DOCK DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD FACILITATE THE CHANGE. SO I GET ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

SO MAKE CAN I JUST ADD A COMMENT IN THERE? MAY I GET THE ZONING OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY. WELL, WE'LL TRY THAT SHORT REFERENCE SHOULD REFLECT THAT.

[6c. Review of the Administrative Processes for the Orientation of New Members Appointed to the Town Council Appointed Boards and Commissions and the Orientation of New Members Elected to the Office of Mayor and Town Council]

COUNCIL KRISTA. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. THIS IS SOME DIFFERENT OF FOR I'M USUALLY AT IF I MAY SAY AFTER READING THIS WHEN I LOOK BACK YEARS AGO I WISH THIS PROGRAM WAS IN PLACE.

I COULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING FASTER A LOT EARLIER. WHAT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ABOUT THIS AND THEY GAVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY FELT THEIR ORIENTATION WENT AND WHAT WAS MISSING AND WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND WORKING UNDER THE GUIDANCE THE TOWN MANAGER AND THE DEPUTY TOWN MANAGER WE'VE WORKED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS PROBABLY FROM EARLY JANUARY TO GET THIS PULLED TOGETHER SO THAT IT CAN START TO BE UTILIZED AND ROLLED OUT ESPECIALLY WITH THIS YEAR BEING

AN ELECTION YEAR. >> WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT'S GOING TO BE AND WE NEVER KNOW HOW MANY ARE GOING TO TURN OVER ON COUNCILOR REMAIN OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE PROCESSES IN PLACE. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DID FROM MY FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH THE APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENT TO THE BOARDS COMMISSIONS. IT WAS AN EXPERIENCE AND IT ACTUALLY HELPED ME COME UP WITH THINGS THAT I WON'T MISS NEXT YEAR.

SO THIS WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO START OFF WITH IS WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

YOU'RE YOU'VE BEEN TASKED AS BEING A PERSONNEL COMMITTEE AND THAT'S TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS OF THOSE CITIZENS OR VOLUNTEERS. UNDERSTOOD AND SERVING ON ONE OF OUR TOWN COUNCIL APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS PART OF THAT.

>> YOU MAKE THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO GO BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL WHICH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE THIS YEAR, SOMETHING I'M GOING TO TRY AND FOCUS ON MOVING INTO NEXT YEAR'S PROCESS IS RECRUITING OUR TALENT BANK IS VERY, VERY LOW RIGHT NOW AND THE COMMITTEE

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SO WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND OTHER STAFF AND MAKING SURE THAT WE REACH OUT TO PEOPLE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED BUT DIDN'T REALIZE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES EXISTED.

I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE ORIENTATION PROCESS FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

IT'S REALLY QUITE SIMPLE NOW. I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT AS WE GO THROUGH EACH ORIENTATION. WE WILL REGULARLY REGULARLY REVIEW AND MAKE UPDATES AND CHANGES AS IS OUR NECESSARY. ONE OF THOSE CHANGES ARE ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MAKING CHANGES AS IS THE FOLLOW UP THAT WE HAVE AT THE VERY END IT'S ABOUT 90 DAYS AFTER THE NEW MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER JOINS AND HAS BEEN THROUGH ORIENTATION. JOSH WILL GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM A CALL TO SEE HOW THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS, ASK QUESTIONS, SEE WHAT THEY THINK COULD BE DIFFERENT, WHAT COULD BE IMPROVED. ALSO AS PART OF THE ORIENTATION PROCESS WE'VE INCLUDED TWO ANNUAL TRAININGS WHICH WE'VE MADE PART OF . EACH BOARD COMMISSION AND THAT IS TO HAVE OUR TOWN ATTORNEY COME IN AND REVIEW THE IMPORTANT ITEMS BEING THE STATE ETHICS ACT, THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, HOW TO CONDUCT AN EFFECTIVE MEETING AS WELL AS PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER ALONG WITH THE WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY MAKING THAT PRESENTATION. OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY WILL CONDUCT AN ANNUAL PRESENTATION AS WELL AND THEY'LL GIVE A PRESENTATION ON PUBLIC MEETING SECURITY PROCEDURES AND SECURITY WITHIN TOWN HALL.

AS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, ENERGY WITHIN PUBLIC MEETINGS AT LOCAL OFFICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE HEIGHTENED.

AND WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE TRAINING THAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GO THROUGH ANNUALLY . ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, RECOMMENDATION SUGGESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE WITH THE ORIENTATION FOR NEW MEMBERS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REMEMBERS. CHRIS.

HI, I HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TO ME THAT I'M JUST GOING TO PASS ON IN THE PAST.

>> IT SEEMS THAT THOUGH THAT TIMES PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS TO BE BUT THERE IS NO VACANCY THEY'LL RECEIVE A LETTER AND IT COULD BE A MISREADING OF THE LETTER.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE I'VE SEEN THE LETTER SO I'M NOT SURE HOW IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED.

BUT THE TAKEAWAY THAT I HAD FROM THE FOLKS WHO HAD RECEIVED ONE THAT I HAD HEARD ABOUT IS THAT IT GAVE THEM THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT WAS IT FOR THEM THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY WAS KIND OF CLOSED THAT THERE WAS. AND SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT IF IT DOESN'T IN THAT LETTER AND I AGAIN I HAVEN'T SEEN IT JUST TO COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD IN THE.

IF WE COULD BE SPECIFIC THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EITHER. >> I KNOW SOMETIMES THEY'D JUST GO INTO THE TALENT BANK AND AND THEN WE WOULD REVIEW THEM AS OPENINGS DO OCCUR OR THAT PLEASE KNOW WHATEVER THAT THIS THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OR TO REAPPLY AFTER WHATEVER THAT TIME PERIOD IS OR IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER INTEREST SUBMIT FOR THAT OR SOMETHING THAT'S GIVES THEM THAT OPENING TO STAY INVOLVED. ABSOLUTELY AN OUTDATED CHECK THAT CAN'T BE A STANDARD FORM LETTER THAT I KIND OF ADAPT FOR THE APPLICANTS WHEN I RECEIVED BUT I'LL MAKE SURE TO GO BACK IN THERE AND NOTE THAT THAT WE DO KEEP THEM ON FILE FOR THE THREE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE DATE RECEIVED. OK, THANK YOU CRYSTAL.

>> YOU'VE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB HERE AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO ENHANCE OUR DATABASE CONSIDERABLY WITH THIS. I RECALL WHEN FIRST WAS APPOINTED TO THE BCA ORIENTATION WAS I SAT IN THAT CHAIR OVER THERE IN THE FIRST MEETING AND HAD TO VOTE FOR IT.

AND SO YOU'RE DOING A LOT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE. ONE THING I'M NOT SURE IS IN HERE CLEARLY AND THAT IS WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THESE APPLICANTS TO IN FACT ATTEND MEETINGS BEFORE THE FINAL APPOINTMENT IS MADE SO THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO UNDERSTAND HOW THE MEETINGS ARE CONDUCTED AND WHAT THE WORK IS. AND MAYBE THAT COULD ALSO BE SUPPLEMENTED BY SUGGESTING TO THEM TO GO TO THE WEB SITE WHERE THOSE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED. SO THAT THEY COULD REVIEW THEM IN CASE THEY COULDN'T ATTEND.

I THINK THE MORE THAT YOU SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR

RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE AGREED. >> AND I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE DATABASE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH CAROLYN TO TRY TO SPREAD THE

WORD AND TO GET PEOPLE OUT. >> I HAVE MENTIONED THIS IN THE NEWSLETTERS THAT I SEND OUT AND

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WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT KNOWN WE WANT THEM. WE NEED TO SEE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> CHRIS, I HAS A SIDEBAR AND I

THINK JOSH WOULD ATTEST TO THIS. >> A SOURCE NEW RECRUITS MAY BE LEADERSHIP CLASS FROM THE CHAMBER. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ATTEND 30 OR 40 PUBLIC MEETINGS SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM BEING FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES IS PRETTY HIGH. SO I WOULD MAKE AN OPEN INVITATION ANNUAL ROUTINE TO

EACH INCOMING LEADERSHIP CLASS AT THE CHAMBER. >> THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.

I LOVE IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ?

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I'M GOING TO MOVE STRAIGHT INTO THE GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDACY AND THE ORIENTATION FOR NEW MEMBERS. TWO TOWN COUNCIL AND THE OFFICE OF MAYOR. ONE THING I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IS THAT A WEEK FROM TODAY MONDAY, AUGUST THE FIRST STATEMENT OF CANDIDACY FILING WILL OPEN.

IT IS OPEN FOR 15 BUSINESS DAYS. IT RUNS THROUGH AUGUST THE 15TH AT NOON AND THOSE THAT ARE SUBMITTING THEM WILL NEED TO JUST BRING THEM TO TOWN HALL.

SO AS WE GET INTO THE ORIENTATION FOR OUR NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS, A COUPLE OF THINGS STOOD OUT TO US IS THAT OFTENTIMES IN THE PAST EVERYBODY WAS HANDED A BIG BINDER OR A BIG STACK OF MATERIALS, SOMETIMES A FLASH DRIVE WITH ALL THOSE MATERIALS

ON THEM. >> BUT WE'RE PROVIDED THE RESOURCES OR THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR REALLY GETTING DOWN INTO THE NEXT LEVEL AND BEING ABLE TO CONDUCT YOUR ROLE ELECTED OFFICIALS, COUNCIL MEMBERS APPROPRIATELY. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS TIME IS WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, CREATED A LIST OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF NOTHING BUT DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED. BUT WE'VE ALSO BROKEN IT DOWN INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES MEETING WITH THE TOWN MANAGER, MEETING WITH HUMAN RESOURCES PUBLIC SAFETY, HUMAN RESOURCES AND SO ON. THIS WAY YOU CAN PUT A NAME TO A FACE, BE ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION THAT TYPICALLY YOU WOULDN'T GET WITHOUT SPEAKING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE'RE ALSO JUST LIKE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE'RE GOING TO CONTAIN TO UPDATE THIS AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE. WE WANT TO HEAR BACK FROM COUNSEL FROM MAYOR AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING BETTER. A COUPLE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO US WAS THE EQUIPMENT MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO THE APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT AND THAT IT'S MAINTAINED ON A REGULAR BASIS. OTHER THINGS INCLUDED INFORMATION OF THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION OFTENTIMES IN THE PAST WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS WE'VE I'VE BEEN PROVIDED YOUR INFORMATION AND JUST UPDATED THE DATABASE AND OFF YOU GUYS MAILS AND INFORMATION FOR ME. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S WELL VERSED ON THIS INFORMATION WHEN THEY RECEIVE IT. SECONDLY, AS THE TOWN CLERK I WILL BE A PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT FOR A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION.

I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL GATHERED. IT'S PROVIDED TO YOU AND THAT YOUR MEETINGS ARE UPDATED, YOUR CALENDARS ARE UPDATED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROGRAM? ITS QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM AND ASK YOU DO WE HAVE A SOPHISTICATED COMPUTER APPLICATION THAT IS A DATABASE OR IS IT JUST A FILE CABINET?

>> RIGHT NOW WHAT WE ARE USING IS CURRENTLY AND IT'S LIKE A FILING CABINET BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LARGE EXPORT EXCEL SPREADSHEET. WE ARE WORKING WITH GRANICK KISS WHO IS GOING TO HELP US MANAGE THAT PROCESS. SO IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY UPDATE WE'RE IN FACT I HAVE A MEETING WITH RENE THIS WEEK TO FINISH THE LAST PORTIONS OF CODING SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION PUT UP THERE AND IT'S KEPT IN ITS MAINTAINED

PRETTY MUCH ON ITS OWN WITH SOME TWEAKS AND CHANGES HERE. >> IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR AN AUTOMATED FILING SYSTEM FOR APPLICATIONS. THERE'S SOME PRETTY SOPHISTICATED DATABASE SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS OUT THERE. YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY ANSWERS FOR YOU ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

I COULD GO. THANK YOU. >> THIS IS OUTSTANDING.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THESE EIGHT YEARS AGO. I THINK EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT MIGHT BE AS THIS IS FOR ENJOYING. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM OUTGOING GOT IT. THAT'S VERY GOOD. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK

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SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD. I'D LIKE THAT DEBRIEFING. >> WHAT MATERIALS ARE YOU LOOKING TO RECOVER AN EXIT INTERVIEW. GOOD POINT.

TAMMY. IF WE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS COMPREHENSIVE AS POSSIBLE AND I STILL KNOW AS I'M LOOKING AT IT YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF THINGS I PROBABLY COULD HAVE ADDED BUT I THINK WE'LL COME ACROSS IT THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THANK YOU.

[6d. Consideration of a Proposed Ordinance to Amend Chapter 1 of Title 17 of the Municipal Code of Hilton Head Island, Adopted by Reference of the Beaufort County Ordinance, Chapter 14, Article II, Animal Control1]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 1 OF TITLE 17 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND ADOPTED BY REFERENCE OF THE

BEAUFORT COUNTY ORDINANCE. >> CHAPTER 14 ARTICLE 2 ANIMAL CONTROL.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST KIND OF TEE THIS ISSUE UP AND I'M GOING TO BE TURNING IT OVER TO A COUPLE OF OUR COLLEAGUES FROM THE COUNTY. THE TOWN RELIES UPON THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE ALL OF ITS ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ISLAND ITSELF AND IN EXCHANGE FOR RECEIVING THOSE SERVICES. HISTORICALLY WE AS THE TOWN HAVE ADOPTED THE COUNTY'S ANIMAL CONTROL CODE SO THAT THE COUNTY'S ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS HAVE ONE SET OF ORDINANCES TO ENFORCE COUNTY WIDE RATHER THAN POTENTIALLY HAVING TO CHANGE AS THEY GO IN AND OUT OF JURISDICTIONS WITHIN SOME OF THE OTHER CAPACITIES.

RECENTLY THE COUNTY INSTITUTED SOME CHANGES TO THEIR CODE . THEY'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AFTER THAT POINT IN TIME TO LET US KNOW OF THOSE CHANGES.

THEY ARE NOW WRITING THE CIRCUIT GOING AROUND TO ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE CHANGES ENTAIL. AND SO WE'VE INVITED MISS BRITTANY WARD WHO'S THE DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY AND MISS TALLULAH TRICE WHO'S THE ANIMAL SERVICES DIRECTOR TO COME AND BASICALLY PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE RECENT CHANGES AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AND WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER. YES, SIR. JUST TO THE POINT HERE ARE ARE WE HERE TODAY TO LISTEN AND GET EDUCATED OR ARE WE HERE TODAY TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND

ADOPTION? >> SO I THINK MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

IT REALLY KIND OF DEPENDS UPON YOUR LEVEL OF COMFORTABLE WITH IT ULTIMATELY BECAUSE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. IF THE COMMITTEE DOES FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THESE CHANGES WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU MOVE IT FORWARD. BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO THIS INFORMATION AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEFORE IT IS MOVED FORWARD. SO WE'LL KIND OF PLAY IT BY EAR AND SEE HOW IT GOES. JOSH, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY PARTICULAR HEARTBURN WITH ANY

OF THESE POINTS? NO, WE'VE REVIEWED IT. >> WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY STAFF JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY AND WE DO AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS. WE THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF INTERESTING POINTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COVER PARTICULARLY WITH SOME STUFF REGARDING STATE LAW AND HOW THAT IMPACTS SOME LOCAL STUFF HERE.

BUT OTHERWISE WE DO THINK THAT MOST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD ARE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US TO CONSIDER. SO YOU RECOMMEND WE MOVE IT FORWARD? YES. IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS COMFORTABLE THE PLEASURE OF THE GROUP, COULD WE ASK THE PRESENTER TO SHARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CHANGES? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ART.

THAT'S OUR INTELLIGENCE GROUP PLACE. MY QUESTION? PROBABLY YES. WE TRIED TO PRESENT TO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. MORNING, LADIES.

HELEN HARRINGTON, THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR THIS MORNING. AS YOU SAID, JOSH, IT IS I'M PRETTY WORRIED THAT THE ATTORNEY FOR THE COUNTY AND TO LET MCGEE HERE WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF OUR CONTROL. THE PURPOSE OF OUR REORGANIZING AND ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO THAT COUNTY ORDINANCE WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE SEVERAL SEVERAL LARGER ISSUES THAT WE HAD SEEN A YEAR TWO YEARS AGO, LOU AND I GOT TOGETHER AND I SAID RATHER THAN IDENTIFYING ONE SINGLE ASPECT AT A TIME. LET'S TAKE SOME TIME AND ACTUALLY REVIEW THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE AND SO WE CAN ADDRESS EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

OTHERWISE WE GET TO ASK JUST CLEARLY PUT IT RIGHT THE CIRCUIT AND COME UP ALL THE TIME ABOUT THESE THINGS. SO I WILL POINT OUT THE LARGER HIGHLIGHTED AREAS OF THE ORDINANCE CHANGE SPECIFICALLY I THINK WHICH JOSH WAS ALLUDING TO.

WE HAVE REMOVED VOICE CONTROL AS A FORM OF HAVING YOUR ANIMAL YOUR PET UNDER CONTROL.

THAT IS BECAUSE THE S KIND OF CODE CHANGED THEIR RULINGS. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE CANNOT SUPERSEDE WHAT THE CODE STATES. SO WHEN THEY CHANGED OURS WE ARE NOW ADJUSTING WHAT OUR

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WE REORGANIZE THE DANGEROUS DOG DETERMINATION PREVIOUSLY WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL WAS IN A SITUATION WHEREBY AN OFFICER WAS CALLED OUT FOR A DANGEROUS DOG DETERMINATION MEANING THERE WAS A DOG ATTACK WHETHER DOG ON DOG OR DOG ON HUMAN THERE WAS FIVE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY APPLIED TO THAT INDIVIDUAL MEANING THEY HAD TO IMMEDIATELY RECEIVE OR OBTAIN INSURANCE AS WELL AS SOME OTHERS AS FAR AS KEEPING THE DOG MAINTAIN A GATED AREA.

I HAVE SINCE MOVED THAT TO AFTER A COURT HEARING IS HELD RATHER THAN WHEN AN OFFICER DETERMINES IT IS A DANGEROUS DOG. SO THAT IS SIMPLY A MECHANICS MOVEMENT GOING ON DANGEROUS DOGS. WE'VE ALSO OVER THE COURSE OF MY FOUR YEARS PROSECUTING THESE THERE ARE SOME VERY HEARTFELT CASES THAT COME FORWARD ESPECIALLY WHEN A INDIVIDUAL OWNS A POST CONSIDER A YOUNG DOG OR A PUPPY TO THREE YEARS OLD WHO UNFORTUNATELY GETS THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION AND A HUMAN IS ATTACKED OR ANOTHER DOG IS ATTACKED. WHEN WE TAKE THOSE PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE GOES TO COURT IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR OUR NOT ONLY TO PROSECUTOR BUT AS WELL AS A JUDGE TO DEEM A TWO OR THREE YEAR OLD DOG WHO CLEARLY GOT PUT IN A BAD SITUATION, A DANGEROUS DOG.

SO WE HAVE CREATED ANOTHER ASPECT TO A NEWS NUISANCE ANIMAL.

THE NUISANCE ANIMAL CAN BE DETERMINED. IT IS A LESSER INCLUDED CHARGE OF A DANGEROUS DOG. BUT WHEN DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY A JUDGE A NUISANCE DOG MUST BE KEPT WITHIN A FENCED IN AREA. IT MUST BE CONTAINED ON A LEASH AT ALL TIMES.

BUT THE ASPECTS OF THE DOG HAVING TO BE IN A FOUR SIDED CRATE AT ALL TIMES CANNOT BE OUT A YARD. THEY CANNOT BE IN A FENCED IN AREA POSED TO A NUISANCE WHERE WE STILL ALLOW THE DOGS TO BE IN A FENCED IN AREA AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MUZZLE.

SO IT IS AGAIN THE LESSER INCLUDED CHARGE OF A DANGEROUS ANIMAL.

I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW I GOT SOME FROM OUR COUNSEL ABOUT THAT. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. OK, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO A LITTLE OVER. YES. WELL, MANY ANIMALS.

THAT'S TRUE. BUT DOGS, CATS, WILDLIFE IN GENERAL.

YOU MENTIONED VOICE CONTROL AND AS I READ THIS I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

SO ARE WE SAYING THAT VOICE CONTROL IS NO LONGER AN OPTION RATHER THAN WALKING OR BEING ON

A LEASH? >> YES, THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE IT'S A LEASH LAW. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP WITH THE STATE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE BEACHES ARE AN ISSUE BUT THAT IS YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

AGAIN, IS BRITNEY WAS SAYING IT'S A LEGAL ISSUE THAT YOU CAN TALK TO JOSH ABOUT ABOUT HAVING DESIGNATED AREAS. SO WHICH YOU BROUGHT THE SECOND POINT THAT GOES ALONG THAT I

SEE THEM ON. >> I THINK IT'S PAGE 28. EVEN WITH GLASSES I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S AN 8 OR A 6 BUT AND BE EXEMPT. EXEMPTIONS ARE WE SAYING THAT OUR BEACHES ARE NO LONGER WE HAVE REMOVED THE BEACHES FROM OUR AUDIENCE AND REASONING BEHIND THAT IS BECAUSE THE STATE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR AN EXEMPTION.

NOW I HAVE HAD OTHER CONVERSATION WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHEREBY THEY HAVE PLACES SUCH AS TOP DOG PARKS WHICH BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC AREA.

I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT IS A FENCED IN AREA AND THERE IS AN EXCEPTION THERE.

BUT I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO SAY WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE IN ORDER TO BAN 10 NEW DOGS TO BE ALLOWED ON THE BEACHES. I CANNOT HERE ALTHOUGH MY CAPACITY AS A DEPUTY ATTORNEY I CANNOT PROVIDE YOU LEGAL ADVICE .

BUT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU CAN SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU CLEARLY READ THAT AND THEN A LOT OF THE WORDING BY THE WAY I VOTED NO LAST TIME YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF WORDING THAT I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE I DID NOT BELIEVE IT WAS ANIMAL FRIENDLY. I DIDN'T THINK IT GAVE AS YOU CLEARLY POINTED OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO SEE BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE ACT THIS DOES IMPROVE. SO THANK GOD FOR LOOKING AT SOME.

ONE THING THAT STILL BOTHERS ME THOUGH AND MAYBE I'VE READ THIS INCORRECTLY LEAVE IT TO YOU TO STRAIGHTEN ME OUT IF I'M WRONG IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS AN A SPECIFIC ATTEMPT TO EXTINGUISH

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YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DEED. IT'S ABOUT THE BREED RIGHT NOW.

HILTON HEAD HUMANE AND BEAUFORT COUNTY WE HAVE OVER 200 PIT BULLS.

IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT OUR FAULT. EVERY SHELTER ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IS FULL.

THERE'S A PROBLEM. INSURANCE IS A PROBLEM. THEY BARNUM MILITARY IN SOME WAYS A WAYS ON HILTON HEAD. THEY DON'T PERMIT A PIT LIKE DOG.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE STUCK WITH IT. SO THE CHOICES WE CAN EUTHANIZE OR SPAY AND NEUTER ONCE AND I GO BACK TO DNR I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU THAT DNR LOOKS AT EVERY SPECIES AND SAID ONE COBIA YOU KNOW, THIS MANY DEER, THIS MANY GATOR TAGS WILL GO OUT.

WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING. SO AS DNR PICKIN ON THE FLOUNDER, PICKING ON THE COBIA.

NO, THEY IT'S OUT OF BALANCE. AND SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING IS IS OUT OF BALANCE AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT THROUGH SPAY NEUTER. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT OVER YOU. SO CHARLES CHOICE I MEAN EUTHANIZED OR SPAY AND NEUTER I

GUESS BECAUSE THERE IS NO OUTLET. >> AND AGAIN TAXPAYERS THEIR LENGTH OF STAY IS SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS. A GOLDEN RETRIEVER IS LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES. SO THERE IS A PROBLEM? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

IS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR THIS BUT I'M I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT THOSE PUPPIES OR A DOG WHO HAS DEVELOPED BAD TRAITS IS REALLY THE DIRECT CAUSE OF THE PERSON WHO IS THEIR PRIMARY CARETAKER.

RIGHT. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, HOW WE ADDRESS THAT.

BUT I CERTAINLY AS FAR AS EDUCATION GOES AND THAT'S A REALM OF THIS POLL ISSUE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE WORK DONE. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO VOLUNTEER ANY TIME AND EFFORT TO THAT DON'T SAY THAT UNLESS YOU'RE SCARED BECAUSE NO LADY

RIGHT HERE. >> I'M VERY SERIOUS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE THE WORD CONTROL BUT WE CERTAINLY DO HAVE THE INFLUENCE OVER THOSE WHO WE CARE FOR TO HELP THEM DEVELOP GOOD TRAITS AND BECOME GOOD HUMANS AND GOOD FOUR LEGGED PETS.

>> AND I ON THAT NOTE I WILL SAY THAT IT IS HEAVILY INVOLVED WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING OUT CITIZENS. I KNOW SPECIFICALLY I HANDLED TWO OR THREE CASES WHERE SHE ASSISTED THE INDIVIDUAL TO GET THE DOGS RELOCATED INTO FACILITIES ALL THE WAY TO OHIO.

SO IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY AND THE PERSON IS WILLING TO WORK, IT IS DEFINITELY THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO TAKE UP THAT JOB AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND HELP THE DOG WITH ANYTHING.

>> AND THEN I GUESS ON THE NUISANCE DOG, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE SEEN I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED ON THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT ON CHANGING AN ORDINANCE UP NORTH. THE BROAD RANGE OF PARKING BEING A NUISANCE TO A TO A NEIGHBOR AND THE UNSUBSTANTIATED TYPE OF CLAIMS THAT ARE HARD TO DEFINE IS WHAT THAT MEANS IS AT A CERTAIN WHEN THE TIME IS AT SO MANY DAYS IN THAT SORT OF THING. THIS STILL SEEMS TO BE BROAD AND LEAVES THE THE PET, THE ANIMAL AND THE HOMEOWNER AT THE MERCY OF A DIFFICULT NEIGHBOR WHO WOULD JUST AS SOON SEE HER ANIMAL GONE COMPLETELY JUST FOR WHATEVER THEIR AGENDA MAY BE. SO I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THAT OUT THERE THAT THAT'S STILL A DIFFICULT AREA OF THIS BEFORE ME THAT I THINK THAT PROBABLY WE COULD DO A BIT MORE WORK ON. THANK YOU THOUGH. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS? I THINK THE CONCEPT OF REQUIRING INSURANCE AFTER A DANGEROUS DOG HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IS GREAT. I'M WONDERING HOW DO WE KNOW THAT INSURANCE IS NOT IMMEDIATELY CANCELED? THE NEXT WEEK? ARE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ASSETS REGISTERED AT THE DANGEROUS DOG WITH THEM.

>> WITH BEFORE COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL AND SO THE DOG IS REGISTERED AND OUR OFFICERS FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE TO MAKE SURE TO ENSURE ONE THAT IT'S IMPLEMENTED AND TO IF THERE'S EVER ANY QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BEEN CANCELED. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A YEARLY

UPDATED. >> SO YOU DON'T GET NOTICE OF CANCELATION WHEN THEY REREGISTER THE DOG. SO THEY ANNUAL. YES.

EXPLAIN US BETTER. YES. >> IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN PAY FOR THE INSURANCE, CANCEL GET A RETURN OF PREMIUM IN THE CASE OF A MORTGAGE FOR EXAMPLE, THE MORTGAGE. THE YOU GET NOTICE AND I THINK

SOME SORT OF NOTICE PROVISION AND THERE WOULD BE VERY USEFUL. >> YEAH WE CAN DO THAT.

WE DO. YOU KNOW THERE'S A BREEDERS LICENSE SO EVERY YEAR WE REVIEW THAT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE UP TO DATE. AND SO WE DO WELFARE CHECKS ON DANGEROUS DOGS IN THE COUNTY. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND SHERIFF TANNER'S ACTUALLY

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IF WE DEEM IT DANGEROUS, IT CAN BE MOVED JASPER COUNTY AND IT'S NO LONGER DANGEROUS.

SO IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES SHERIFF TANNER HAS OFFERED HIS OFFICERS TWO WHEEL SYSTEM AND HE WILL DEEM THOSE DANGEROUS ANIMALS SO THAT IT'S IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.

SO WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON THAT. BUT JOSH, MY POINT ABOUT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES.

THANK YOU. THERE THOSE WOULD BE THE MAJOR POINTS THAT JOSH HAS.

>> ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU WANT TO BE TO POINT OUT WITHIN HERE? LAUGHS THE ONE ITEM I WOULD SUGGEST JUST HIGHLIGHTING JUST BECAUSE I DO KNOW A CHANGE IS THE REQUIREMENT OF DOMESTICATED PET OWNERS TO CARE FOR THEIR ANIMALS DURING A NATURAL DISASTER.

YES. >> SO WE DID AN THERE'S A LIVESTOCK.

TALKING ABOUT HURRICANES ACTUALLY IT'S BASED BECAUSE OF HILTON HEAD.

BUT THERE WERE HORSES AND FLOODWATERS. THEY WEREN'T CONFINED.

THEY HAD REFRAINED FROM MOVEMENT. SO THEY WERE STUCK.

IT PUT IT PUTS US IN DANGER. I DO SWIFT AND SLACK WATER RESCUES IN THE PAST AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WHAT'S UNDER YOU.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE IF THEY LIVE IN A FLOOD PRONE AREA AND THEY KNOW THE MAP THAT THEY MUST EVACUATE THOSE ANIMALS. THEY CAN'T KEEP THEM CONFINED WITHIN THAT. SO ANYWAY, CHICKENS ARE A PROBLEM TOO, AS YOU KNOW.

SO IF PEOPLE KEEP THEM IN A COOP AND THEY LIVE IN FLOOD PLAIN, THEY BETTER TAKE THEM WITH THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GIVE THEM AIRBORNE. YES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS?

>> JOSH, SHOULD WE HAVE A PROBLEM ON THE ISLAND WITH A LOT MORE STABLE?

>> SO I'LL TELL YOU BASED UPON MY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT

DOMESTIC ANIMALS WERE GOING TO BE THE FOCUS. >> YOU DIDN'T WANT YOUR DOG TO

BE TIED UP AND LEFT WHILE YOU USE THE BROWN LIVESTOCK. >> ON THE OTHER HAND HE MAY BE MORE PROBLEMATIC. I UNDERSTAND. CERTAINLY NOT CONFINING THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP AROUND.

>> BUT I WOULD I WOULD BE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT KNOWING SOME OF THE POPULATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE ISLAND THAT RELY UPON LIVESTOCK AND ANIMALS LIKE THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THEM OFF OF THE ISLAND. AND SO I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF BALANCE WHERE IT'S UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE NOT WANTING TO PUT THEM IN HARM'S WAY BUT THERE MAY NOT REALISTICALLY BE THE ABILITY TO LOAD THEM ON A TRAILER AND MOVE THEM OUT OF TOWN EITHER. SO AGAIN DRAWING THEM THE CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN LIVESTOCK AND DOMESTIC ANIMALS I THINK MAY BE IMPORTANT FOR THAT ANALYSIS.

>> YES. AND SO WE HAVE AN APP AND WE'RE TRYING TO GO AROUND AND FIND THOSE AREAS BECAUSE IT'S NOW BRITNEY GOT IT IN A SMALLER AREA BECAUSE IT IS THE FLOOD PRONE AREAS. AND SO WE'RE IDENTIFYING WHERE THE LIVESTOCK IS AND THEN WE'RE HERE TO HELP RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, DON'T WAIT TWO DAYS BEFORE OR A DAY BEFORE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. SO WE CAN AIKEN. WE HAVE.

I HAVE THEY USE WITH AIKEN AND OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING HORSE TRAILERS DOWN. THEY HAVE THE AREAS THAT THEY CAN CONFINE THE ANIMALS.

BUT WE'VE WE'VE GOT TO DO THAT NOW. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON IS REALLY GO OUT INTO THE AREAS AND WE KNOW A LOT OF THE PEOPLE.

SO WE DO WORK WITH THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE WERE NOT ANY GOOD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE EMOTION FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO MOVE FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL THE AMENDED ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO ANIMAL CONTROL? I WOULD SO MOVE US A SECOND IN ANY FURTHER.

I HATE TO. WELL, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT WE NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT FALLS IN TERMS OF WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION PRIOR TO GOING TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FINAL VOTE OR OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HOW GOOD COULD YOU PLEASE BE SPECIFIC WITH SOME CLEAR LEACH'S 4 4 1 I GUESS WE CAN GO BACK TO THE RECORD BUT THAT'S SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO JUST GET CONFIRMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT DOES OR DOES NOT APPLY, WE CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE THAT.

>> NOW AT LEAST I CAN TELL YOU HAVING READ THE STATE LAW PROVISION THAT IS BEING REFERENCED, IT'S VERY CLEAR IT DOES NOT GRANT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ANIMAL TO BE OFF OF A LEASH AND STILL REMAIN COMPLIANT WITH THAT WITH THAT WORDING.

HOWEVER, IF WE WANTED TO LOOK CREATING THE ABILITY FOR SOME DESIGNATED AREA TO BE OUTSIDE

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THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY SUCH AS THE LESSER INCLUDED DANGEROUS DOGGED DETERMINATION THE MOVING OF REQUIREMENTS FOR A DANGEROUS DOG, ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE HURRICANE. WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT THOSE UNTIL THIS IS PASSED.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S VERY CLEAR BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED WITH OUR OFFICERS WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE NOT THE DANGEROUS DOG BUT A NUISANCE TICKET AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

>> SO THAT'S A BIG CHANGE FOR PEOPLE WHO TAKE THEIR DOGS TO THE BEACHES AND FOR OUR VISITORS WHO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IMPLEMENTATION IS AN EDUCATION AND THAT TAKES FOR THAT SORT OF BIG CHANGE. BUT IT IS A IT'S A STATE LAW PROHIBITS VOICE CONTROL.

>> CORRECT. AND YET I WAS I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE TIMING OF WHEN THAT CHANGE WAS DONE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS CHANGED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WHEN THAT CHANGE WAS MADE, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE DOG MUST BE ON A PHYSICAL LEASH AT ALL TIMES, THAT IT IS OFF THE PROPERTY OF THE OWNER.

>> AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXCLUDE CERTAIN AREAS ON THE ISLAND THROUGH THAT.

>> I THINK THE THOUGHT BEING IF THERE IS APPROPRIATE AREAS AND I THE BEST EXAMPLES OF DOG PARK IT IS A CONTAINED AREA. THE INTENT OF IT IS FOR ANIMALS TO BE OFF LEASHES WHILE IN THOSE AREAS AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE IN CONTRAVENTION TO WHAT THE STATE HAS PUT IN PLACE. NOW IF WE WANTED TO TAKE AN EXPAND UPON THAT TO DESIGNATE OTHER PUBLIC AREAS AS BEING SIMILAR, I THINK WE PROBABLY COULD TAKE A LOOK AT DOING THAT. BUT THAT WOULD AGAIN HAVE TO BE THE WILL OF COUNCIL THAT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT YOU WOULD WANT TO TAKE THAT ACTION.

>> I THINK CAMERON'S RIGHT. WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE BEACH AS THAT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC AIR.

SO WHAT I WOULD RECORD IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THE COMMITTEE WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY PREPARE THAT LANGUAGE SO THAT IT CAN CONTEMPORANEOUSLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UPDATES TO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

>> SO IF THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMITTEE WE CAN DO THAT AND BRING EVERYTHING FORWARD WHEN IT COMES FORWARD TOWN COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT BEFOREHAND, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU AT YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING NEXT MONTH, GET CONCURRENCE ON THE LANGUAGE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD FROM THERE. I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR CONSIDERATION FOR OUR GROUP IS THAT WE DO WHAT JOSH IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE INSTRUCT CON STAFF TO COME FORWARD WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS WITH THE MODIFICATION THAT WE CAN WE CAN DESIGN AND DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A A A DOG PARK ARRANGEMENT ON THE BEACHES.

SO WHEN THIS MOTION HAVE TRISHA'S COMMENTS ADDED TO SELL ADOPTED.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I MOVED.

[6e. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town of Hilton Head Island Authorizing the Implementation of the Gullah History and Cultural Education Program for Town Employees and Officials]

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA I AS CHAIR HAVE HEARD AND RECEIVED MULTIPLE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE AT THE DIAS RELATIVE TO THIS MOTION AND I'VE ASKED THEM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND CONCISENESS TO TRANSLATE THEIR THEIR THOUGHTS INTO WRITING INTO RECOMMENDATIONS TO COME BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO I'D LIKE A MOTION TO DO THAT . I'LL MAKE THEM THAT MOTION.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. EXCUSE ME, SIR. >> CHAIRMAN HARKINS, CAN I HAVE FOR A POINT OF ORDER? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE? SURE.

WE ARE. >> WE ARE DEFERRING THIS UNTIL ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE ARE FORWARDED TO STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[7. Executive Session]

[8. Possible Action by the Committee as a Result of Executive Session]

>> IS THERE A MOTION FOR A GERMAN SUM OF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SO MOVED STAND ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.