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OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO THE BUFORD COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF JULY THE 20TH, 2022.
UM, CAN WE HAVE A CALL TO ORDER? WE'LL CALL MR.
HERE IS FOREST HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. HANNA HERE, MR. MCCAIN, MS. SELLERS, MR. WINSLOW, MR. STRUGGLING, WE HAVE A QUORUM IT'S CUSTOMARY TO GO AROUND THE ROOM AND INTRODUCE EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.
WE'LL GO AROUND THAT CURVE AND WAY YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING IT.
UM, SEE OUR HALL SPECIALIST APARTMENT
SHE'S OUR NEW SPECIALTIES SPECIALISTS.
YOU FAILS IN THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM COORDINATOR FOR THE COUNTY, ERIC CLAWSON DIRECTOR ENGINEER.
UM, UM, JEFF ANDREWS, M UH, APAC CONTRACTOR FEE 70 ENGINEERING COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX CANDIDATE FOR SERVING SHAWN BEAVER COUNTY COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT AND LIAISON COMMITTEE, KEN KEN MCCAMMON SUMMER INTERN WITH THIS YOU'VE GOT MORE RC FOR BUFORD JASPER COUNTY.
I HAVE RICH TURNER OF SOKOLOV PROGRAM SERVICES LEAD FOR AMT BRIAN BOWER COUNTY TRANSPORTATION, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER CONSULTANTS.
UM, BESIDES SIERRA, WE HAVE MR. ARTHUR HAMMOND JOINING US AND WELCOME ABOARD.
NOW WE HAVE A FULL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR EVERYONE.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG, OH, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE VOTE NOW OPEN FOR FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
DOES ANYBODY CARE TO PUBLICLY HAVE COMMENTS FOR OUR COMMITTEE FOR RESTART? SEE NONE.
YOU HAVE THE PROOF WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 20TH, 2022.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED.
I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
GREG MOORE, S T D O T FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 2023 AND AFTERNOON JOURNAL.
SO I CHANGED UP THE FORMAT A LITTLE BIT FOR HOW TO ROLL THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ROLL A COUPLE OF THESE PROJECTS OFF THE LIST SO THAT WE CAN, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH CLOSE OUT WITH STD AT T RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME OFF THIS LOT AND MY TRY AND FOLLOW THIS FORMAT A LITTLE BIT MORE GOING FORWARD.
THE CLOSE OUT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE LISTED HERE.
THERE'LL BE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES TO GO INTO THOSE EACH INDIVIDUALLY, ALONG WITH WHAT'S UPCOMING AND OTHER PROJECTS, CLOSE OUT PROJECTS, WHICH Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
SOME OF THESE ACTUALLY PREDATE ME, MYSELF BEING WITH THE DEPARTMENT 0 7 9 0 9.
THAT WAS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF ONE 70 AND PARIS ISLAND GATEWAY 5 6, 5 30 51 FOR BUFORD COUNTY.
THOSE ARE SELECTED ROADS THROUGHOUT BEAVER COUNTY FOR REHABILITATION 5, 6, 5 43 20, ACTUALLY PREDATED
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MYSELF, WHICH WASSO AGAIN, THESE HAVE BEEN ON THE PROJECT LIST FOR PAST MEETINGS.
THEY'RE JUST COMING OFF AFTER THIS ONE.
UM, IF I DON'T I'LL HAVE THIS SECTION GOING FORWARD, BUT I JUST MAY HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROJECTS ON IT.
THAT'S GREAT UNTIL I ACTUALLY HAVE CLOSED OUT.
I'VE SLEPT ACTIVE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH.
A LOT OF THESE Y'ALL HAVE HAD MORE DETAIL IN THE PAST.
YOU'VE GOT US TO SEVEN TO EIGHT, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS THE NEW ONE THAT GOT AWARDED FOR 2 78 BUSINESSES RESURFACING 5 6 5 6 2 6 0.
THE HIGHLIGHT FOR Y'ALL AND THIS ONE WILL BE HUNTING ISLAND AND THE STATE PARK 5 6 5 6 9 9 0 HAS MULTIPLE ROADS REHAB AND THEN 5, 6, 6 0 4 10.
THE HIGHLIGHT FOR Y'ALL IS THAT LAST HALF MILE OUT TO THE FRIPP ISLAND BRIDGE.
ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR? 4 0 7 5 4 2 3.
UH, WE CAN I'LL TOUCH ON THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT SLIDE, BUT THERE'S INDIVIDUAL SLIDES FOR EACH OF THESE ALSO.
AGAIN, THIS IS MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS GOING DOWN TO 78.
IT'S ANYWHERE FROM CURVING GUTTER TO RE STRIPING TO DRAIN EDGE TO THERE'S A MASS DHARMA IN THERE.
SO IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF AT EACH ONE, NOT ONE INTERSECTION IS THE SAME FROM THE OTHER.
UM, THIS ONE DID HAVE A COMPLETION DATE OF JUNE 30TH.
SO LAST MONTH, UM, THE REASON THAT IT SAYS TBD FOR THE NEW COMPLETION DATE IS BECAUSE WE ARE STILL WORKING OUT LOGISTICS WITH EDISTO CONTRACTING BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY, I BELIEVE ONE OR TWO SUPPLIERS FOR MASTER ARMS. AND THIS PROJECT DOES RECEIVE A NEW MASTER ARM TRYING TO GET AN ACTUAL DATE FROM THAT SUPPLIER IS LIKE VOLUNTEERS.
UM, UM, ORIGINALLY IT HAD A DATE OUT INTO MARCH OF NEXT YEAR TO RECEIVE IT.
I'VE HEARD THAT HAS COME BACK AND WITHIN THE NEXT QUARTER TO RECEIVE THAT MASTER ARM.
SO EXACT TIMELINE ON THAT IS STILL KIND OF MOVING AROUND CURRENT PROGRESS GOING ON IS DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AT MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS, ALONG WITH GETTING READY TO DO SOME CURBING GUTTER AT MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS, A HIGHLIGHT OF CHANGES ON THIS PROJECT FROM THE ORIGINAL.
SO THAT ONE IS HILTON HEAD NATIONAL.
THIS HAS BEEN A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE GOLF COURSE, AS Y'ALL KNOW, IT USED TO HAVE A ROAD GOING FROM 2 78 OVER TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
UM, SINCE THEN THE GOLF COURSES LANDSCAPED IT, THEY DO HOWEVER HAVE PLANS TO DO SOMETHING NEW WITH THAT LOT.
THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T TOLD ME OF ANY WHAT THEIR TIMELINE OR WHAT THAT SCOPE IS.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY WANT, I'M TELLING THEM THAT THE DOD NEEDS TO TAKE THOSE TURN LANES OUT.
THAT IS A RISK THAT THE DEITY IS CURRENTLY TAKING ON.
UM, I'VE TOLD THEM I MET WITH A GOLF COURSE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS BOSS LAST WEEK.
AND THE INTENT THERE IS TO TAKE THOSE TURN LANES OUT.
UM, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING BACK TO ME WITHIN A WEEK ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT INTENT AND WHAT TIMELINE THEY HAVE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TRY AND KEEP THOSE TURN LANES.
UM, BUT IN ESSENCE, THOSE TURN LANES, THE DEPARTMENT INTENDS TO TAKE THEM OUT UNLESS THERE'S EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY, I BELIEVE FOUR TURN LANES FROM VARIOUS DIRECTIONS COMING ON AND OFF TO 78 THERE, THE SECOND MAJOR CHANGE ON THERE, UH, IS THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS IN SALT MARSH, WHICH WITH THE HURRICANE EVACUATION CROSSOVERS FOR WHEN WE DO EVE ACTS FOR WHEN WE DO HAVE AN IMMINENT STORM COMING IN, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME REVISIONS TO WHY THAT CROSSOVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
THERE'S NOTHING, IT'S NOTHING MAJOR.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO FLIP TRAFFIC ACROSS LANES.
DID ANY OF THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? SURE DID.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT.
NEXT SLOT, UM, 0 7 6 1 6 1 0 IS A RECONSTRUCTION ON US, 2 78 BUSINESS.
THERE'S TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND.
THIS PROJECT USED TO BE BEFORE IT GOT BIG OUT WAS A CMR B CONTRACT.
IT HAS SINCE GONE TO SIX INCH MELON, AIDEN'S FOLD-UP ASPHALT AND PAVEMENT MARGIN, THIS CONTRACT AWARDED TO APAC.
UM, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SCHEDULING A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FOR THAT JOB.
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THAT CCD ON THAT SLIDE WILL BE DONE AT NIGHT, SIR, THAT'LL BE DONE AT NIGHT.THAT MAINTAINS THE RESTRICTIONS ON 2 78.
ANY QUESTIONS ON 2 78? ALL RIGHT.
UH, THE EVERYONE'S FAVORITE PROJECT, 5 6, 5 62 60, WHICH IS ROAD REHAB.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH AND MAY RUN A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT.
UM, THE TWO REMAINING PIECES BEING SEATTLE AND PARKWAY CENTRAL, AND THAT THEY, THEY HAVE DONE THE FINAL SURFACE ON THERE.
HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE SOME RIGHT ABILITY CORRECTIONS TO DO.
I ACTUALLY HAD TIM HENDERSON DOWN HERE LAST WEEK AND HE GOT IT RIGHT AT HIMSELF AND HE HAD THE SAME COMMENTS ON IT THAT IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAN THE ROLLERCOASTER IT USED TO BE, BUT IT STILL HAS SOME IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT'S REPORTING.
SO, UM, ALONG WITH THAT, THEY HAVE THE CORRECTIONS PLUS THEY HA THEY STILL HAVE THE THERMO PAVEMENT MARKINGS TO PUT DOWN.
SO INSIDE THE HUNTING ISLAND STATE PARK, UM, BASED ON PARKING LOT.
SO YOUR WORK ON PARKING LOT C IS GETTING A RISE IN ELEVATION TO SOLVE SOME OTHER ISSUES.
AND ALSO THE PARKING LOT DOWN AT THE PIER DOWN BY THE FRIPP ISLAND BRIDGE STILL HAS TO BE DONE.
QUESTION, W DO WE LOOK AT, DO YOU LOOK AT A PERMEABLE PAVING WHEN YOU DO THE PARKING LOTS AT ALL? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK INTO SOMETIMES I HAVEN'T SEEN, I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE NOT DOING PARKING LOTS.
UM, THIS WAS KIND OF A SPECIAL INSTANCE DOING WORK FOR THEM.
ANOTHER STATE AGENCY, STATE PARK STATE.
THERE HAS BEEN DICTATED BY THE STATE PARK.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIAL INSTANCES JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOING, THEY WERE ABLE TO TAG TEAM ONTO OUR CONTRACT OR MANAGING THE WORK THERE.
THEY'RE FUNDING THE WORK AND THEY'VE DONE SOME SPECIAL COORDINATION FOR IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS FUNDING FORUM, HURRICANE MATTHEW SEVERAL YEARS BACK AND THEY'VE STAYED APPROPRIATE AND FIND APPROPRIATE MONEY, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SO THEY'RE MANAGING IT FOR, YEAH.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF STATE PARKS ACROSS THE STATE THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE IN THAT PARK THAT NEEDED IT.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS FROM BOTH FROM THE COUNTY COUNTY OFFICIALS LIKE YOURSELF AND ALSO FROM RESIDENTS TO CALL AS I, HOW MUCH THEY LIKED THE NEW DRIVERS IN SOUTH BAY, ALONG WITH CAMPGROUNDS SLOT, UM, 5 6, 5 6 9, 9 0.
AGAIN, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN PRIMARILY COMPLETE.
THE ONLY WORK REMAINING IS OVER IN JASPER COUNTY, EXCEPT FOR DRAYTON DRIVE OVER IN PORT ROYAL.
UM, THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET IS SCHEDULED TO GET CMR BE DONE ON IT IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS.
SO THAT WILL BE GOING ON THAT'LL DID YOU SEE A BIG INCREASE IN COST FOR CMR B TO SEE RB IS OUR IT'S OUR BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK PRODUCT? UM, SO USUALLY WE'LL TRY AND GO.
CONTRACTORS TYPICALLY WILL COME TO US WANTING TO FLIP CMR B OVER TO ASPHALT PAVING, AND IT'S, IT'S A TASK FOR A CONTRACTOR TO CONVINCE US TO SWITCH IT JUST BECAUSE WE GET THAT MUCH VALUE OUT OF CMR B.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT MULTIPLE ROWS ON MULTIPLE CONTRACTS THAT MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE ME.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE, I HAVE A COUPLE STRONG REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MET TO BE ABLE TO ME TO SUGGEST IT TO DISTRICT, TO SWITCH IT.
IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT FACET SEPARATELY, WE CAN, SIR, WE DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, THIS CONTRACT GOT AWARDED TO BLYTHE, WHICH IN FAVOR, HELP US LOUD A LITTLE BIT JUST FOR COORDINATION SAKE OUT AT FRIPP ISLAND BRIDGE.
UM, MAIN INTEREST HERE IS THE LAST HALF MILE OUT TO THE FRONT BRIDGE, BUT WHICH WILL BE GETTING DONE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PARKING LOT.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH, THAT LAST HALF MILE WE'LL BE DONE REMAINING ROADS OUT THERE.
THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF ROADS ON THAT PROJECT, JUST FOR THAT REHABILITATION SCOPE A LITTLE OVER FIVE MILES.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY ALL, I'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING TO ADD A COUPLE OF ROADS INTO THAT.
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SO IT'S GOING TO BE OVER 5.01 MILES, BUT NONE OF THE REST OF THE ROADS AFTER THEY FINISHED OUT TO THE FRIT BRIDGE, NONE OF THOSE ROADS ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AFTER LABOR DAY.UM, GOING THROUGH OUR LIGHTING SCHEDULE, THE MAIN THING FOR BUFORD COMING UP AND WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS IS GOING TO BE THIS 5, 6, 6 31 10 CURRENTLY SCHEDULED LET IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WHICH THIS HAS PRIMARY PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT, SECONDARY PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT, AND THEN A NON FAA, SECONDARY PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT.
SO THAT WE'LL HAVE, I'VE SEEN THE LIST ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL MILEAGE IS THE ANSWER, BUT YOU'LL HAVE IT FOR OUR NEXT SPEEDING.
THEN I PRESENTED THAT I SHOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA ON THAT ONE COULD BE, AND THAT'S OUT IN NOVEMBER RIGHT NOW.
THAT AGAIN, I USUALLY TRY AND CHECK THAT LIST BEFORE EACH MEETING, BUT THAT'S YEAH, THAT, ONE'S IT, HOPEFULLY IT STAYS ON NOVEMBER AS THE COMMISSIONER APPROVED IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER, SIR.
THAT DETERMINES LETTING OF COURSE, A LOT OF THE TIMES IT DOES.
SOMETIMES I'VE SEEN STUFF LIKE THIS EVEN TWO MONTHS OUT THAT LAST MINUTE IS POLLS.
REALLY? I DON'T KNOW UNTIL IT ACTUALLY, YEAH.
AS, AS LARGE AS THAT CONTRACT IS GOOD.
SO THE TWO PHONE PROJECTS, THE TWO SEVENTY EIGHT TOLL CONVERT, THESE ARE KIND OF THE PROJECTS.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT IN SAY, UNLESS SOMEONE FEEDS IT TO ME.
UM, THE 2 78 TORO CONVERSION, THIS UPDATE IS STRAIGHT OFF THE TOLL ROAD WEBSITE.
UM, THIS IS THEIR QUARTERLY REPORT, WHICH IS PRETTY ACCURATE FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN.
YOU GOT THE MAIN LINE CAMPY DEMOLITION DONE MARSHLAND ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS, DEMOLISHED REMOVED THE TOLL BOOTH ACCESS TUNNEL BEING CLEARED AND FILLED.
SO THAT SCOPES COMPLETE AND THEN FINAL TRAFFIC PATTERN HAVEN'T BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
UM, I WAS TRYING TO GET AN INSIGHT FROM SARAH GAFFNEY, OUR RESIDENT OVER THIS PROJECT WHO DOES SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR US.
I COULD NOT GET IN TOUCH WITH HER TODAY.
HOPEFULLY EITHER THIS WEEK, I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE MR. CHAIRMAN, OR IN THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE SOMETHING.
UM, I'VE HAD THREE PHONE CALLS ON THE PAVEMENT.
THE BRIEF SURFACING HAS BEEN DONE.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MYSELF, SIR.
AND THEY W NONE OF THEM WERE GOOD.
UM, THE INFORMATION I HAVE HAD ON THE EXACT SUBJECT, UM, SARAH HAS BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE IS NOT THE FINAL SURFACE.
SO THAT'S ABOUT THE MOST INFORMATION I KNOW TO THAT SUBJECT.
UM, THE SECOND ITEM ON THIS PRODUCT, ON THIS LIST, B THE 2 78 CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS, CAN'T SAY MUCH ELSE.
OTHER, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ELSE OTHER THAN THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING Y'ALL MAY KNOW MORE THAN ME, SO, OR BUFORD COUNTY.
I THINK IT'S, I'M CURRENTLY STILL LIVE WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM, THIS DOING THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND, UM, IT'S, WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DONE TO AUGUST OF THE WHOLE THING.
SO WE'RE STILL PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME TIMELINE THAT THINGS HAD BEEN AS SIR.
I JUST LEAVE IT ON THERE FOR POSTERITY.
ARE THE RAMPS FROM MARSHLAND ROAD EXIT GOING TO BE REPAVED WHERE YOU TOOK, TOOK OUT THE TOLL FACILITY? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER ON THAT STORE, BUT I CAN FIND OUT PLEASE.
I'LL PROD, NOT THAT THE CHAIRMAN'S GOT OTHER QUESTIONS, GREG.
I LIKE YOUR NEW LAYOUT FORMAT THAT THAT'LL WORK REAL WELL.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET ON THERE TODAY WAS TRYING, I'M TRYING TO HAVE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS IN THERE FOR Y'ALL TO ASK YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
THAT I'M WORKING ON THAT ALONG WITH THE NEW LAYOUT.
THANK YOU, KEVIN, FOR THE RECORD, MS.
UM, NEXT ITEM UP IS DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT 52 AND 53 UPDATE.
UM, SO WE HAVE TWO DIRT ROAD CONTRACTS ONGOING RIGHT NOW CONTRACT 52 IS CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION WITCLIFF AND RIGHT PLACE HAVE BOTH BEEN, UH, COMPLETED AND PUNCH LIST.
WALKS SHOULD BE OCCURRING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
UM, HARRISON ISLAND IS ONGOING AND SHOULD BE GETTING ASPHALT
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IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.AND THEN THEY WILL BE MOVING ON TO DAVID GREEN TO BEGIN WORK ON THAT.
UM, THEY MAY BEGIN WORKING ON SOME PIPE WORK IN THE INTERIM BEFORE THEY GET OVER THERE TO START DOING THE GRADING CONTRACT.
THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR SURVEY ON ALL THREE ROADS AND ARE TRYING TO PROCESS THEIR SURVEYS AND REALLY GET INTO THEIR DESIGN.
SO ONCE THEY GET THAT PROCESS, THEY SHOULD BE, UH, APPLYING FOR PERMANENCE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT STANDS DRAWING.
YOU HEARD, GOT DOWN DAVID GREENE'S SCHEDULED.
THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE NOW.
IT'S ACTUALLY OUT THERE END OF LAST WEEK.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE PIPE AND EQUIPMENT ALREADY STAGED OUT THERE.
UM, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE SENDING A CREW OVER TO START THE PIPE WORK SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND THEN, UM, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO, I WON'T GET OUT THERE TO DO THE REST OF THE WORK TILL THEY FINISH ON HARRISON ISLAND.
UM, SO THAT'S, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A RIDE DOWN IS CHECK IT OUT.
YEAH, I WAS THERE A COUPLE, LIKE I SAID IN THE LAST WEEK, SO THEY GOT THE PIPE IN THE EQUIPMENT STAGE THERE ALREADY.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON DIRK ROAD? THE NEXT SIDE OF, UH, WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE FOR THE REPAYMENT OF THE PAVING OF, UH, OF THE COOKING HAM, NORTHVIEW AND RAINBOW? UH, IT WILL BE, IT'S ALL GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON PERMITTING, WHICH WAS THE HOLDUP FOR THIS YEAR'S, UH, ROADS.
SO I WOULD HATE TO REALLY GIVE AN ESTIMATE, BUT I WOULD ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, GO TO LATE WINTER NECK PUSH IN THE NEXT YEAR, PROBABLY BEFORE IT STARTS PAVING ANY OF THOSE ROADS, UM, DEPENDING ON PERMITTING.
SO, OH, BEFORE YOU GO, IT'S J D WASHINGTON, UH, SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.
UH, NO, IT IS NOT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING OUR DIRT ROAD EVALUATION SYSTEM REDONE.
UM, SO WE WILL, I THINK THAT IS GOING TO COME BACK IN THE FALL.
SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA IN THE FALL WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE SCHEDULE AND PAY.
WHEN DID SHE CONTRACT TO BE DONE FOR THE ENGINEER ANALYSIS OR THE TERMS OF REFERENCE YOU HAVE TO DO WITH OCTOBER WHEN THE CONTRACT DATE IS, IF YOU RECALL, THEY, THEY PUT IT BACK OUT THERE FINISHING UP THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
SO THEY PUT IT BACK OUT AND THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S BEING REANALYZED WITH NEW DATA.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL FIVE-YEAR PLAN WAS RIGHT OFF HAND.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT ONE YEAR FOUR, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT ONE.
ERIC, ARE YOU GOING TO STAND IN FOR, IT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED RELAXATION, HOPEFULLY DODGING THESE, UH, THESE STORMS. SO, UH, JUST A REAL QUICK UPDATE ON THE
SO WE'RE CALLING THIS THE NEAR TERM PROJECT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PROJECT FROM 2 78 OVER TO 4 62.
SO AGAIN, CAPACITY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
UM, SO WE ARE, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH E-COMM TO FINISH UP THOSE PLANS.
THEY ARE AT THE POINT OF, UH, GETTING THE BID DOCUMENTS READY.
UM, SO JUST AGAIN, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN EACH ONE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, UH, ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS THEN AT 2 78 AND ONE 70, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOME CREATIVE THINGS WITH, UH, MORE OF A FREE FLOW, UM, ON RAMP, UH, FROM ONE 70 TO 2 78.
SO AGAIN, SHOULD IMPROVE THE, SHOULD IMPROVE THE CONGESTION THAT WE SEE THERE ALONG WITH SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR.
UH, ONE OF THE PART, ONE OF THE PIECES OF THAT PROJECT IS THE RESURFACING OF THE, UH, THE, UH, EASTBOUND TO NORTHBOUND OFF RAMP AT ONE 70 AND 2 78.
SO THEN WE'VE ALSO MADE THE REQUEST FOR PRICING FOR THE OTHER RAMPS.
THERE'S FOUR ADDITIONAL RAMPS, INCLUDING THE CLOVERLEAF.
UH, SO GETTING THAT, THAT UPDATE, UM, IN THAT PRICE FROM AECOM, UM, BY THE NEXT MEETING, I'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH DISTRICT SIX TO TRY TO GET THAT FUNDED.
FURTHERMORE, IS THERE, UM, ANY IDEA ON WHETHER DISTRICT SIX HAS APPROVED? I KNOW THAT THE DRAWINGS HAVE WENT TO DISTRICT SIX FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
HAS, HAS IT BEEN APPROVED? WE THEY'VE BEEN RESUBMITTED TO BOTH HEADQUARTERS AND DISTRICT SIX FOR APPROVAL.
UH, HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN RESUBMITTED.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS THAT WE'RE CALLING PHASE TWO, WHICH IS A DEL WEBB SEAGRASS STATION, AND THEN OLDFIELD ON THE OTHER
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SIDE.SO AGAIN, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THE LIMITS OF THAT PROJECT, WE REALLY, WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CONGESTION SLASH SAFETY CONCERNS AT BOTH OF THOSE.
SO WE'RE INCLUDING BOTH OF THOSE, BUT CALLING THAT A PHASE TWO GOOD QUESTIONS, UH, HAS HIS LANCE PUTTING ANY FUNDING INTO THAT SINCE THAT WAS THE LAST PROJECT TO START WITH? UH, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A COUNTY FUNDED PROJECT.
AND I GET THE HALF IS FUNDED BY, UH, BUFORD COUNTY, UH, JASPER COUNTIES FUNDING, A MILLION DOLLARS AND HARDY OR, UM, YEAH.
HARDY BILL IS COMING UP WITH A HALF MILLION.
NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS SINCE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY PROJECT BACK THEN.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY WERE CONTRIBUTING ANYTHING.
NO MA'AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MUCH.
OKAY, BRIAN, YOU GET TO COME BACK UP AND TALK ABOUT RESURFACING YOUR FIVE AND SAW OPPORTUNITY.
SO THE YEAR FIVE RESURFACING IS ONGOING.
UM, APAC IS THE CONTRACTOR ON THAT.
THEY ARE EXPECTING TO FINISH THEIR PORTION OF IT, ALL THEIR HA M WORK, THE PATCHING, THE OVERLAYS THAT THEN LIFTS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
UM, AND THEN THEIR SUB FOR MICROSURFACING IS GOING TO BE IN LATE AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT SHOULD PUT THEM FINISHING UP, UH, BEFORE THEIR CONTRACT DATE.
UM, AND THEN THE BE LEFT WILL BE THERMO AFTER THAT THEY'RE STRIPING.
UM, BIG QUESTION BEING, DID THEY GET THE STATE RESURFACING DONE BY ONE JULY? THEY DID NOT.
THERE WERE ISSUES WITH ENCROACHMENT PERMITS ON THE, ON ALL THE ROADS ACTUALLY, UM, TOT HELD UP THE ENCROACHMENT PERMITS BICKET, UH, FOR THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON FRONT POINT.
THEY ARE DOD STILL HAS NOT ISSUED THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR FREE POINT.
AS OF NOW, AS NOW VERBALLY, THEY HAVE AGREED TO THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT IS, UH, PROPOSED THERE.
AND THEY ARE, HAVE VERBALLY SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT COMING OUT, BUT THAT ONE, WE STILL DO NOT HAVE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR RICKY.
WE, WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WHEN WE SEND OUR REPORT FORWARD, THAT WE INCLUDE THAT THOSE PROJECTS WERE COMMITTED IN LAST YEAR'S FUNDING.
UM, BUT SO THEY SHOULD FINISH UP WITH THE REST OF THE CONTRACT BY THE CONTRACT DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH.
IT'S LOOKING AHEAD IN THAT WAY.
UH, SO PRETEND IT'S COUNTY ROAD, THE END OF IT, IT'S A VERY SHORT SEGMENT IS IN A SANTEE COOPER EASEMENT.
UM, SO WE HAVE IT ASKED FOR A PERMISSION TO ACCESS THAT EASEMENT, UM, WHICH THEY HAS BEEN GRANTED.
SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WITH AN APAC IS GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK ON SOPER 10 IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO, AND THEN THE MICRO SURFACE, UH, WE'LL FINISH IT UP.
UM, BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN THE RELEASE ONCE OVER 10.
UM, AND THAT WAS A 25,000 I THINK $400 THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID THROUGH.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT AS, AS A LAST MEETING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SECTION BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OWNERSHIP IS NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY, WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR IT.
SO IT'S COMING OUT OF TAG FUNDS.
THEY WILL PAY PAVE UNDER THE POWER LINES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT CAN'T FUNDS CAN'T BE EXPENDED FROM OUR POT.
UM, WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON YEAR FIVE? NOPE, LET'S GO.
GO TO, SO GO WITH THE, HAS A LONG HISTORY WITH, IT WAS ORIGINALLY ON YEAR FOUR, UM, AND WAS REMOVED FROM YEAR FOUR AND ADDED A YEAR FIVE.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED A PROPOSAL TO INCLUDE IT ON YEAR FIVE, WHICH CAME BACK SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS.
SO WE ARE, AND THERE IS OTHER ISSUES WE ARE WORKING OR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS ADA IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING SIDEWALKS OUT THERE, WHICH WE CAN NOT PROCEED WITH THE RESURFACING UNTIL THEY GET DONE WITH OUR ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE ARE KIND OF ON, HOLD ON, GO WITH THE, TRYING TO WORK THROUGH ALTERNATIVES FOR HOW TO MOVE THAT FORWARD AND WHETHER WE NEED TO PUSH IT TO A SEPARATE CONTRACT LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S, UH, BASICALLY ON HOLD, KEEP US IN THE LOOP ON IT.
AND THAT'S A SEPARATE REPORT IT'S JUST GIVEN TO YOU TO GO THROUGH THE AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
I'M HERE TO, UH, GIVE YOU A REPORT ON THE LIVE VOLUME SECONDARY ROAD SYSTEM, THE RESERVATION PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT
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PLAN.WE HAD A FEW SLIDES TO SHOW YOU, BUT I'M GOING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH WITH WHAT WE WERE TASKED WITH, HOW WE CAME, HOW WE WALKED THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED TO, UH, TO, TO THE CANDIDATE.
SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS WE RECEIVED DATA FROM ALL THE PQI AND WE DID A FULL ANALYSIS OF THAT TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT CONDITIONS THAT WERE BEING REPORTED BY THE DSP.
UH, AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS, IS, IS, IS THE LATEST DATA THAT WE FOUND AN ERROR IN, IN SOME OF THE DATA.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE US AN UPDATED, UH, UM, A LIST OF DATA.
AND SO THAT'S THE ANALYSIS YOU SEE HERE.
UM, AND, AND THERE'S WHAT IT'S REALLY, THERE'S 407 STATE SECONDARY ROADS WITH LESS THAN 500 ADT, UM, 181 MILES.
AND THEY'RE SPLIT UP INTO ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO SEGMENTS.
SO IT 400 ROWS, BUT IN SEGMENTS.
AND THAT'S HOW WE WENT ABOUT OUR COLLECTION OF DATA WAS FROM SEGMENT TO SEGMENT.
UM, ABOUT 38% OF THOSE ROWS WERE HAVE A SURFACE ON THEM TODAY THAT HAS KIND OF A CHIP SEAL SURFACE THAT YOU SEE A LOT MORE AND MORE IN THE RURAL COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU SEE THAT IN ABOUT 60, OVER 60% OF THOSE ARE THE PLANT MIX, YOUR HOT MIX, ASPHALT SURFACE TREATMENTS.
UM, THE NEW, THE GOOD NEWS IS BASED ON THE DOD DATA SYSTEM.
THIS PIECE OF THE OVERALL NETWORK IS IN GOOD CONDITION.
UH, OVERALL THE OVERALL SECONDARY ROAD SYSTEM IN BUFORD RATED AT A 3.14 ON A SCALE TO ZERO TO FIVE, UH, AND THEN BREAKING DOWN JUST THE 181 MILES OF THIS LOW VOLUME NETWORK.
IT'S, IT'S JUST OVER A THREE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THE OVERALL AVERAGE OF THE SECONDARY SYSTEM, BUT STILL GOOD CONDITION.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT 90, 94% WERE RATED AS FAIR OR BETTER.
WELL, THAT LOW SEEING, SEEING THE MARTYR GRAPH THERE AND HAVING THE SMALL, THE SMALL BARS THERE ON THE FAR RIGHT.
UM, WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE ERROR AND THE S CDFI DAMN WELL IT'S THERE SO THEY WE'LL GET IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S, SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT INDEX THAT DOTD USES TO CREATE.
WHAT IS, WHAT I SHOULD IS THE PAYMENT QUALITY AS THE PAYMENT IN DISTRESS INDEX AND THE PAYMENT SERVICEABILITY AND THE DISTRESS INDEX.
FOR SOME REASON, THEY HAD VERY LOW NUMBERS ON, INSTEAD OF ON A SCALE OF ZERO TO FIVE AT 0.2 SEEM TO BE, I MEAN, PROBABLY 60 OR 70 OF THOSE ROADS, MAYBE MORE THAN THAT, THAT WERE, THAT THE DATA WAS ERRONEOUS.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET UPDATED DATA AND LOOK, AND IT LINED UP MUCH BETTER WITH WHAT YOU SEE ON THE, OH, SORRY.
I WAS JUST INTERESTED BECAUSE I HAD GONE OVER FROM MY DISTRICT, ALL THE ROADS, AND I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT WAS CAUSING IT THEN.
AND SOMEHOW IN THE TREE, I THINK IT'S JUST IN THE TRANSITION BETWEEN THEIR PAYMENT MANAGEMENT DATABASE TO A SPREADSHEET.
I MEAN, I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY.
I WAS JUST INTERESTED IN THE DATA ITSELF BECAUSE OF HAVING SPENT SO MUCH TIME LOOKING AT EACH SEGMENT SAID IF ABSOLUTELY, WELL, IT SCARED ME BECAUSE WHEN WE FINISHED THIS PAYMENT CONDITION SURVEY, THE STACK OF THE BAR GRAPH LOOKED BASICALLY THE EXACT OPPOSITE AS WHAT I SHOW ON THE SCREEN, IF THERE WAS A LOT OF RED AND NOT MUCH GREEN TO IT, SO THAT IT WAS LIKE, WELL, SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT HERE.
AND WE DUG INTO IT A LITTLE DEEPER AND WE FOUND THAT YES, THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN ERROR AND THEY WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO WORK WITH US AND GIVE US SOME UPDATED DATA ON A QUICK TURNAROUND TIME.
AND TH AND THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH US.
I'LL SAY RYAN AND CHAIRMAN WE'VE, WE'VE MET WITH THEM AND, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO, TO GO THROUGH THIS DATA.
AND, UM, SO THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE ANALYZE THE, UH, THE DATA THAT WE HAD THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO US IS WE AMT, WE COMPLETED A PAYMENT CONDITION SURVEY, A VISUAL SURVEY OF EACH OF THE ROADS.
WE DID THAT AS LONG ALONG WITH COLLECTING, UM, KIND OF LAND USE CHARACTERISTICS, WHICH I'LL GO OVER NOW ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT, AND WHAT WE FOUND SIMILAR SITUATION, UH, UM, WE HAVE A PAYMENT CONDITION RATING OVERALL OF THIS, OF THIS 181 MILES OF 82.4 IS STILL IN THE GOOD, ON A SCALE OF ZERO TO A HUNDRED NOW.
UH, SO STILL IN THE GOOD CATEGORY, UM, WE'RE ABOUT 90% OF THE ROADS WERE RATED AS FAIR, BETTER, WHICH LINES UP FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE DEITY DATA, WHICH IS GOOD.
WE'RE GETTING FAIRLY CONSISTENT RESULTS FROM BOTH THE DIFFERENT SURVEYS,
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UH, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH WE GO ABOUT DOING THE SURVEY, BUTSO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS, GOT GOOD, GOOD CONDITION NETWORK NETWORKS IN GOOD CONDITION.
AND THE DATE IS PRETTY CONSISTENT.
IT'S NOT THE EASIEST TO SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, BUT THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU IN A GIS AS WELL.
IT JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF THE HEAT MAP THERE, RED BAD GREEN, GOOD.
IT'S A PREDOMINANTLY GREEN AND YELLOW IS GOOD.
SO ONE OF THE, THE TASKS WAS TO PRIORITIZE THE ROADS.
AND SO WE BASED THAT ON TWO THINGS, ONE ON THE PAYMENT CONDITION, AND THEN THE OTHER WAS THE LAND USE WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ROAD, HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS ROAD TO THE COMMUNITY? AND SO WE REALLY LOOKED AT THE FACTORS YEARS WHILE OUR GUYS WERE RIDING THE ROADS, THEY COLLECTED A NUMBER OF HOMES, CEMETERIES, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, THINGS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CREATE AN IMPORTANCE TO THAT ROAD.
REALLY A KIND OF A, UM, A DENSITY RATING OF HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT PER ROAD FOR NEW MEMBERS.
IT'S AN OLD MEMBERS, I GUESS, AS WELL.
THIS IS THE SAME METHODOLOGY THAT'S BEEN USED TO EVALUATE DIRT ROADS IN THE PAST, AS WELL AS, UH, IT WAS A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE LOW, LOW VOLUME, UM, STATE SECONDARIES.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID IS WE COLLECTED THAT DATA.
WE ADDED A POINT FOR EACH OF THOSE, OR AT 10 POINTS, DEPENDING UPON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW BIG OF A WORD IMPORTANCE FACTOR THAT WOULD BE 10, FOUR, I THINK SCHOOLS, UH, 10 FOR SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, BUSINESSES THAT WOULD, THAT'D BE MORE TRAFFIC GENERATORS FROM THE, EITHER THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR FOLKS THAT, UM, THAT WORKED LIVE THERE.
UM, THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED CHARACTERISTIC THE TRAFFIC CHARACTERISTICS.
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TRAFFIC WE WERE GOING? THIS WAS FOR NETWORK THAT IS LESS THAN 500.
SO WE FACTORED THAT IN AS WELL.
UM, BASICALLY ON A 10 POINT SCALE, ZERO TO A HUNDRED IN SO FORTH, SEWING UP TO 50 POINTS FOR, OR ROAD THAT HAD HAD BETWEEN FOUR, 400 AND 500 HIGHER TRAFFIC, HIGHER IMPORTANCE FOR DEVELOPMENT, A HIGHER DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT GAVE YOU A HIGHER IMPORTANCE FACTOR OR A LAND USE, UM, SCORE.
AND ESSENTIALLY WE TOOK THE, THE PAYMENT CONDITION SCORE THAT, UH, THAT WE AS PART OF OUR ZERO TO A HUNDRED SCALE, WE FACTORED THAT BY 75%.
UM, SO THE IDEA THERE WAS 70, THE 75% OF THE PAYMENT CONDITION WOULD BE WEIGHED INTO THE PRIORITY RANKING.
AND THEN 25% OF THAT SCORE WOULD BE BASED UPON, UM, W THE LAND USE CHARACTERISTICS.
SO THEN ESSENTIALLY TAKE THOSE TWO NUMBERS, SUM THOSE UP.
AND YOU ENDED UP WITH A PRIORITY RANKING SOAR, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN THE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN IN YELLOW.
SO WE DID THAT FOR EVERY ROAD, UM, TO PRIORITIZE OR RANK THOSE, UH, FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION OF FUNDING.
SO THE NEXT STEP WAS THEN, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THESE RIGHTS? WHAT, UH, WHAT TYPE OF TREATMENT TYPES SHOULD BE OR APPLICABLE TO, TO BE UTILIZED AND ON EACH OF THOSE, TO BRING THEM TO A GOOD OR BETTER CONDITION, OR MAINTAIN THEM IN A GOOD CONDITION.
SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS KIND OF THE SERIES A AS A MIX EFFECTS, UH, UH, I'VE GOT SOME THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE THERE'S, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THROUGH MEETINGS WITH THE DEITY AND, UH, W CHARLESTON, CHARLESTON COUNTY, BUFORD COUNTY STAFF, UH, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH, UH, JUST LAST WEEK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO A SITE VISIT IN CHARLESTON COUNTY AT A PROJECT THAT WAS COMPLETED THIS PAST SPRING TO LOOK AT A SCRUB SEAL, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY COVERED WITH A MICRO, BUT UNLESS WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK THERE.
SO A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM, FROM, FROM FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY ON, ON, ON WHAT TYPE OF TREATMENT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THIS NETWORK.
AND, UH, SO WE'VE APPLIED PRICES THAT ARE RELATED TO THOSE AS WELL.
THE ONES IN BLUE ARE THE ONES THAT WE LANDED ON, OR USE THIS FOR USE IN THIS, IN THIS EXERCISE.
AND THEN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE DOMINANTLY, UH, ON THE SCRUB SEAL, UH, CRACK SEAL WITH CRACK SEAL, WITH A FOG SEAL TO COVER IT UP.
UM, WE WOULD SEAL THE CRACKS AND THEN ESSENTIALLY YOU'D SEAL THE ENTIRE ROAD.
UH, SO YOU DON'T SEE THE SPIDERWEB OF, UH, OF THE BLACK CRACK SEAL.
IT'S NOT ALL, IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN THE WORLD, PAYMENT PRESERVATION, BUT
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IT'S AESTHETIC.THAT IS NOT THE, UH, NOT VERY NICE TO LOOK AT.
SO YOU CAN COVER THAT UP WITH A FOG SEAL, ESSENTIALLY PAINT THE ROAD AND SEAL OFF THAT ENTIRE SURFACE FROM WATER INTRUSION.
AND IT GIVES YOU SOMETHING ELSE FOR THE SUN TO BEAT DOWN ON AS WELL.
SO, YES, SIR, STAN'S A LIE SCRUB SEAL IS ANOTHER ONE WE'VE, WE'VE UTILIZED THAT.
AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS MOSTLY ON THE, ON SOME OF THE RURAL ROADS WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY CHIP SEAL TODAY.
UM, THE SCRUB SEAL IS I'LL SAY A LITTLE BIT, JUST A HEAVIER LEVEL OF, UH, OF A CHIP SEAL.
IT'S JUST HOW YOU APPLY THE EMOTION AND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST FEEDING, AND THEN THE OTHER TREATMENT TYPES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ARE ALL WITH OUR PLANT MAX HOT MIX ASPHALT TYPE, UH, TREATMENTS THAT YOU, YOU USED TO SEE IT ON YOUR NORMAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND CITY STREETS.
SO RANGING IN PRICE BASED UPON WHAT OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO DO ON THOSE ROADS TO BRING THAT SURFACE UP.
SO THAT'S JUST FULL THAT PATCHING, WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME ISOLATED AREAS THAT ARE BASE MAY BE FAILING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WHAT WE CAME TO A CONCLUSION AND WE PROVIDED A DRAFT REPORT TO STAFF, AND WE WERE KIND OF GOING THROUGH SOME ITERATIONS TO GET THAT, TO FINALIZE IT.
BUT THE RECOMMENDATION HERE ARE FOR FIVE YEARS UTILIZING ESSENTIALLY TWO AND A HALF MILLION OF THE ONE-TIME FUNDING TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
UM, 1 MILLION, THE INITIAL BUDGET THAT WE WERE PROVIDED WITH WAS 1 MILLION FOR WHAT YEAR, ONE AND 500,000 FOR YEARS, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE.
UH, SO WHEN THE, UH, STATE LEGISLATURE MADE THEIR DECISION TO US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IT WAS GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK WHAT CAN WE DO TO TAKE THIS NETWORK TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND BRING EVERY ROAD INTO A GOOD OR BETTER CONDITION OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
UM, AND THAT'S GOOD GET, AND GO BACK AND REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MIND.
WE PUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN LAST FISCAL YEAR TO DO ROUTES THAT WERE PICKED BY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THIS YEAR, WE'RE PUTTING A MILLION DOLLARS ESSENTIALLY IN FURLOUGH ADT.
AND OUT YEARS, WE'RE SPENDING ROUGHLY A HALF A MILLION ON LOW ADT AND A HALF A MILLION ON ROUTES THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SELECT THAT THEY WANT TO SEE DONE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
THE PROGRAM IS SET UP AND AS RICHARD IS SAYING, WE GOT 5.3 MILLION, UM, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
IT HASN'T BEEN TREV TRANSMITTED TO US.
SENATOR DAVIS KEEPS TELLING US IT'S COMING.
BUT, UM, WHEN I TALKED WITH, UM, THE PROGRAM MANAGER 27, WE STILL HAVE TO SPEND 27 AND A HALF PERCENT ON STATE SECONDARIES.
SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT UP THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ABOVE $1 MILLION, OKAY.
UTILIZES THAT YOU SPENT THE 27 AND A HALF PERCENT, YOU USE 50% OF IT OR TWO AND A HALF ON HERE.
YOU'VE HIT THAT TARGET, UH, UTILIZING THIS ONE.
WHAT THIS DOES IS ESSENTIALLY EVERY ROAD THAT WAS YELLOW, RED, THEY, THEY GO, THEY TURN GREEN OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, PREDOMINANTLY IN YEAR ONE YEAR ONE, UH, AT RIGHT THERE THREE AND A HALF MILLION IS A MIX OF BOOKS.
THEN LEFT SEAL COURSES ON TOP OF THE ROADS THAT ARE IN THE FAIR CONDITION THAT CAN JUST TAKE A THIN, THIN LIFT OF HOT MIX ASPHALT TO OTHER ROADS THAT ARE IN WORSE CONDITION AND NEED A LOT OF FULL THAT PATCHING AND, AND HEAVIER OVERLAYS, MAYBE SOME MILLING, UH, MAYBE SOME LOW 11 AND FOUR CENTIMETERS NEEDED TO GO IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING SURFACE AND THE, UH, AND THE FINAL SURFACE.
SO IT'S A MIX OF FIXES THERE WITHIN THAT YEAR ONE.
UM, AND THEN YEARS TWO THROUGH FIVE IT'S PREDOMINANTLY WHACKED.
ALL OF IT IS HOT MIX ASPHALT TYPE RECOMMENDATIONS, THOUGH.
YOUR ONE ALSO HAS THE SCRUB SEAL.
SO YOU YOU'RE HITTING BOTH THE RURAL COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THEIR OTHER IS ABOUT 50 50 SPLIT THAT WORK OUT THE, THE CLASSIFICATIONS, EACH OF THOSE ROADS, I COMMEND THE COMMUNITY FOR DOING THIS.
THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF SPENDING THE MONEY, GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR BUCK IN TOUCHING THE COMMUNITY.
LOWE'S I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE LIFE EXTENSION FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREATMENTS.
ARE THOSE PREDOMINANTLY INDUSTRY STANDARDS? AND IF SO, IS IT BASED ON A CERTAIN, UM, THE STANDARD DOES A STANDARD INCLUDE, UH, UM, AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC COUNT? IS THAT BUILT INTO, IS THAT BUILT IN, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO ANSWER THAT I EVER SAID TRAFFIC, I WOULD
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THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VARIABLE.YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIDE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TREATMENT TYPE OF TREATMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA APPLY FOR PRESERVATION TREATMENT OR ANY TYPE OF TREATMENT, YOUR PLACE ON THE ROAD, AND YOU PUT A LOT OF HIGH PERCENTAGE OF TRUCK TRAFFIC, OR VERY HIGH ADT, PREDOMINANTLY THOSE GO HAND IN HAND, UM, YOUR TREATMENT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SAME LIFECYCLE AS IT WILL ON A SECONDARY ROAD, THESE SECONDARY ROADS, THE TREAT THESE, THE LOWER COST ON TOP OF THE CURVE TYPE TREATMENTS.
THEY'LL LAST PROBABLY LONGER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE ON YOUR NETWORK.
YEAH, BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL LOW VOLUME
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FIGHTING ON THESE ROADS AS WATER AND SUN.
AND SO IF YOU CAN DO YOUR BEST TO KEEP YOUR ROADS SEALED FROM WATER, THAT'S PROBABLY YOUR BIGGEST ISSUE ON THESE.
SO THE LOWER COST TREATMENTS REALLY CAN GO A LONG WAYS HERE.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, MAYBE ON THE LOW SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM, BECAUSE THESE ARE MORE OF AN AVERAGE OF, OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THAT SPECTRUM THERE.
SO WE PROBABLY COULD GET A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE MORE LONGER LIFE OUT OF SOME OF THESE TREATMENTS.
YOU GO FIRST BEFORE I WAS GOING TO ASK IT, THIS IS JUST PART OF THAT PROJECT THAT WE, THAT YOU HAVE US DO ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT, CORRECT.
THAT'S WHEN THIS STARTED A YEAR AGO, THIS WAS WHERE WE WANTED TO GO TO AND WHERE WE WANTED TO BE.
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM FOR US.
WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY ON STATE SECONDARIES.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO BY STATE STATUTE 33 AND A HALF 33.5%.
UM, AND THE REQUIREMENTS THEY DO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN CHANGING THE REQUIREMENTS PERCENTAGES AROUND, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS FOR TO HELP US IDENTIFY AND GET US FOCUSED ON IS JENNY POINTED OUT WHEN SHE WENT THROUGH HER DISTRICT, UH, ALL THE SMALL GROUTS THAT NEEDED ATTENTION, BOTH VOLUME, LOW DENSITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PICK UP THE ROUTES AND WE'LL STILL BE DOING, YOU'LL STILL BE GOING OUT ON YOUR STREETS IN THE FUTURE.
I HAVE ON BAD NEEDS, I KNOW YESTERDAY.
AND THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHICH IS, ARE THESE PRIORITIES KIND OF CURVED IN STONE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, OR IS THERE A CHANCE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THEM? AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY NOBODY REMEMBERS, BUT IN DISTRICT FOUR, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAS JUST BEGUN IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO IS AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF COMMUTER TRAFFIC USING OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS AS BASICALLY ARTERIALS AND DO SHORTCUTS FROM LADY'S ISLAND TO THE HOSPITAL, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN THE WHOLE REGION.
THE ANSWER IS NO, NO, THE ANSWER IS REAL SIMPLE AS NO.
AND IT WAS DONE BASED UPON THE TWO CATEGORIES, THE CONDITION OF THE ROADS AS WELL AS THEN BASED UPON THE LAND USE, GOING WITH THEM.
THEY TRIED TO TIE THOSE TOGETHER.
I SAW THAT, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS A CHANCE, YOU KNOW, SAY THREE YEARS FROM NOW TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THE ROADS TO SEE, AS I SAY, MY CONCERN IN DISTRICT FOUR IS THAT THE ROADS ARE STILL OKAY.
NOW WITH THE INCREDIBLY INCREASED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, IT WAS NEVER, THESE ROADS WERE NEVER, THIS, THEIR CITY STREETS, RESIDENTIAL STREETS WERE NEVER DESIGNED FOR COMMUTER TRAFFIC AND THEY'RE TAKING IT.
AND I GUESS WE PROBABLY HAVE GOOGLE AND WAYS TO THANK FOR IT SAYING, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATING THAT IF, INSTEAD OF STAYING ON THE MAIN HIGHWAYS THAT IF THEY CUT THROUGH, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS, THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON KIDS AND, UM, AND SO THEY CAN GO AND THEY GO THROUGH, OF COURSE, OVER THE SPEED LIMIT EVERYTHING, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE A CHANCE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GO BACK AND SAY, CAUSE SOME OF THOSE ROADS ARE GOING TO START SEEING THE IMPACT OF ALL THE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, SMALL TRUCKS AND SUV'S AND STUFF, THAT'S STILL, YOU DO HAVE, YOU DO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF PUTTING THEM ON YOUR LIST IN THE ENSUING YEARS.
ON OTHER HALF MILLION DOLLARS, WE HAVE TO SPEND, IF YOU HAVE REPS THAT ARE DETERIORATING AND NEED ATTENTION, THEY'RE STATE SECONDARIES THAT STILL DOESN'T PROHIBIT YOU FROM PUTTING THEM ON THAT LIST, BUT THESE WILL STAY ON THIS PROGRAM, BUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THAT'S I KNOW YOU WILL.
BUT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS WHAT WE'VE STARTED DOING.
WE DID WITH THE PAVEMENT PRESERVATION FOR THE COUNTY ROADS, AND ALSO WHERE THIS, WE ASKED FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO GIVE PROJECT LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS, AS FAR AS THE THICKNESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND FOR THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS TO GIVE A MORE GENERAL RECOMMENDATION AND IT WAS STAFFED PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE FOUGHT IN GOING TO CONSULTANTS LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO GO OUT EACH
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YEAR AND LOOK AT THE ROADS AGAIN AND GIVE A PROJECT LEVEL RECOMMENDATION.SO EACH YEAR, UH, SOMEONE IS WHETHER IT'S AFRICA CONSULTANTS GOING TO GO AT EACH OF THESE ROADS.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF THE ROADS ON THE LIST, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND LOOK AT EACH OF THESE ROADS AND GO, HEY, THIS TREATMENT IS STILL APPLICABLE OR WE NEED TO CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE.
SO IT WILL CATCH SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT.
AND ALSO WITH THESE PLANS, UH, THE GOAL IS TO REDO IT EVERY THREE TO FOUR YEARS PROBABLY IS FOR MOST PAYMENT PROGRAMS. SO HOPEFULLY DOING IT IN A FREQUENCY LIKE THAT CAN HELP KIND OF CATCH SOME OF THIS BEFORE IT BECOMES A MAJOR ISSUE.
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WINS, WILL YOU HAVE THE FINAL REPORT TO US? UM, I'LL SAY IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, PROBABLY SOONER THAN THAT.
UM, WE'VE GOT A FEW UPDATES TO MAKE TO IT.
UM, BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING THE PAST WEEK ON THE, ON THE FULL NARRATIVE.
AND THEN, UM, LIKE RYAN WAS SAYING, UH, SOME OF THE, THE PROVIDED THAT PROJECT LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, FOR YOU GUYS TO MOVE FORWARD ON YOUR ONE.
THOSE ARE THE NEXT TWO THINGS THAT ARE ON MY PLATE.
AND THIS WAS A VERY CLEAR, EASY TO READ AND UNDERSTAND.
RICHARD LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT FOR ME, UM, IT'S HAVING HE'S GETTING ON.
SHE WAS ON AND THEN DROPPED OFF.
WELL, I CAN HELP THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, PART OF THE LONGTERM, UM, STATE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING, THEY LOOKED AT COMING UP WITH USING FUNDING THAT THEY HAVE FOR STUDIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PLUSH WITH MONEY, I GUESS, THE RIGHT WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
SO AS PART OF THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THEY COME UP WITH, UM, STUDIES THAT WERE BEING COMPLETED IN VARIOUS AREAS.
AND I'LL GO DOWN THE LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I'LL TRY TO ALSO KEEP MY EYE ON WHEN PROJECTING CAUSE AS WELL.
UH, NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY TRANSIT STUDY LAPSE, URBAN PORTION, AND THAT'S TO BE DONE IN 2023, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA, 46, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA, THREE 15 FROM ONE 70 TO US, 17 WITH EXPANDED SCOPE AT THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY FROM 1 72 TO 95.
SO THE CONNECTION THEY'RE GOING TO ALSO STUDY MAKING THE CONNECTION FROM BLUFFTON PARKWAY OUT TO I 95 AND THAT'S TO BE DONE IN 2020, STARTED IN LATTER PART OF 2023 AND FINISHED IN 2024.
UM, BLUFFTON PARKWAY, US 2 78 TO ONE 70.
THAT'S THE OPPOSITE, THE DEAD, THE OPPOSITE END.
AND THAT'S IN 2024, SOUTH CAROLINA, ONE 70 FROM BOUNDARY STREET TO SOUTH CAROLINA, 46.
AND THEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A FREIGHT PLAN, LAT SERVING PORTION, AND THAT'LL BE DONE IN 2025.
SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL STEPHANIE UP FOR OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING AGAIN, BUT, UH, THAT GIVES YOU AND HAVE THIS SENT OUT TO YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE THIS TO LOOK AT, ASK HER QUESTIONS RATHER THAN THE NEXT MEETING.
NOBODY HAS QUESTIONS OF ME THAT'S AS MUCH AS I CAN TELL YOU ON THAT.
NEW BUSINESS CHANGE ORDERS FOR APEC.
I'M GOING TO START INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT.
BRIAN BIFF, ISN'T KIND OF AN INTRO.
UM, BUT SOME OF YOU KNOW, OF HAVING A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL GENERAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND CHANGE ORDERS ARE SOMETHING WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THE CLIENT WANTED TO CHANGE OR SOMETHING THAT, UM, WAS IN MY CONTRACT.
AND IF STEEL PRICES WENT UP FIVE, THEY WENT DOWN FINE.
IT'S JUST THE WAY LIFE WAS OBVIOUSLY THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN TODAY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE WORLD OF, UM, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN IN.
I SEE WHAT KIND OF HOPING A BRIAN WOULD BE HERE BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO HAVE HIM PICK HIS BRAIN TO SEE WHAT HIS COMPANY IS DOING AND HOLDING PRICES, METAL BUILDING COMPANY I BUY FUEL FROM HOLDS THE PRICE OF STEEL FOR 30 DAYS TODAY.
IT'S REMARKABLE CONCRETE PRICES ARE HELD FOR BACK TO THE SAME.
AND SO IT BRINGS US TO THE CONVERSATION OF APAC AND CHANGE OR FOR WORK THAT THEY HAVE UNDER CONTRACT WITH US.
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OUR CONTRACTS MAKE NO PROVISIONS FOR ESCALATORS, FOR ASPHALT OR GRAVEL OR ANY, ANY MATERIAL USE AND PAVING, BUT DEITIES CONTRACTS HAVE PROVISIONS MADE FOR PRICE ESCALATORS AS WE WILL ALL WATCHED UNDER THE CURRENT ECONOMY AND PRICING OF OIL, HOW IT HAS HAD AN ENORMOUS EFFECT ON GASOLINE PRICES AND ALL, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO OUR PROBE WORK THAT WE'RE HAVING DONE.SO APAC HAS CAME TO BRIAN AND ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION FOR A CHANGE ORDER TO OFFSET SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THEY'VE HAD TO BEAR FOR ASPHALT AND ASPHALT MATERIALS, GRAVEL.
AND WITH THAT, BRIAN, NOW I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE.
UH, YEAH, I THINK YOU EXPLAINED IT PRETTY WELL.
UM, THE DOD DOES INCLUDE A ADJUSTMENT FOR ASPHALT AND FUEL IN THEIR CONTRACTS.
THEY HAVE, THEY KEEP A MONTHLY INDEX.
THAT IS WHAT THEY BASE IT ON AND ON THEIR MONTHLY PAY APPS, THEY WILL ADJUST THE, UH, ASPHALT AND FUEL JUST THIS YEAR, WHICH I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT WAS LIT IN JANUARY.
THE INDEX THIS MONTH IS UP TO 792 89.
SO THERE'S BEEN PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE INDEX FOR THE, UH, FUEL NAP.
UM, AND AS WELL AS DEITY CHARLESTON COUNTY ALSO USES THIS IN THEIR YEARLY RESURFACING CONTRACTS.
UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE, HE WAS IN THE PAST.
UM, WE SEE THIS IS A, UH, UNPRECEDENTED TIMES.
UM, SO, UH, WE, THEY HAVE ASKED AND IF IT'S ALRIGHT WITH YOU, JEFF ANDREWS WITH APAC IS HERE, LIKE TO GIVE HIM A SECOND TO SPEAK AND, UM, GO FROM THERE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS IT'S BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY VOLATILE, I'LL SAY IT BEST.
UM, SINCE OUR BID DAY, THE LIQUID ASPHALT IS UP JUST OVER 52% THAT, UM, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE BINDER COMPONENT THAT HOLDS EVERYTHING TOGETHER ON IT'S PETROLEUM BASED PRODUCT.
UM, THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ROUGHLY FIVE AND A HALF TO 6% OF OUR ASPHALT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, SIR, WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX OF THESE PROJECTS WITHOUT ISSUE AND WE'LL DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, MINOR FLUCTUATIONS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A BIG COMPANY AND WE CAN HANDLE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS UNPRECEDENTED.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT DOING THIS FOR FUTURE CONTRACTS OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH ASPHALT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT ULTIMATELY WILL SAVE YOU MONEY WHEN THE CURVE GOES BACK DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ARE HEDGING AND DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CEILING IS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT.
UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, OTHER MATERIAL PRICE INCREASES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED FUEL.
ANYTHING ELSE IT'S JUST, IT'S A PASS THROUGH FOR US.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST TO GET US WHOLE, HAVE YOU DONE AN S AN ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT IT MIGHT COST? YES, SIR.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT COMPLETED WITH THE PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE PROSECUTED THE WORK.
WE PROCEEDED IN GOOD FAITH KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE REJECTED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN GOOD RELATIONS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING THAT WE BACKED AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THE WORK, WE'LL FINISH IT, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY WITH OUR WORK, BUT IT'S AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE RIGHT NOW OF A, ROUGHLY $120,000.
THAT WAS WHAT, 2 MILLION ROUGHLY.
SO WE'RE TALKING 5% ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO IS SINCE THE WORK IS STILL ON, YOU'RE STILL PROSECUTING THE WORK YOU WON'T BE DONE UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
WE HAVE A MEETING IN OCTOBER AND AT THAT TIME I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FINITE NUMBERS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT AND TO CONSIDER AT THAT POINT IN TIME, RATHER THAN PASSING A BLIND CHANGE ORDER AT THIS TIME.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
I THOUGHT OUR NEXT MEETING WAS IN SEPTEMBER, WAS THAT
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SEPTEMBER, EXCUSE ME.I'M IF IT APPLIES TO STATE ROADS, THEN DOES THAT APPLY WITH NO FURTHER ACTION TO THE STATE SECONDARY ROADS THAT WE SPEND THEIR MONEY AS WELL? LET'S PUT IT IN THIS FASHION.
IT'S, IT'S IN OUR POT AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO SPEND THE PORTION ON THE STATE SECONDARIES.
SO THERE WOULDN'T NEED TO BE AN APPROVAL FOR CHANGE ORDERS ON STATE, SECONDARY RUSE THAT WE SUPPLY THAT WE TAKE CARE OF.
NO, IT'S UNDER OUR CONTRACT IS, IS THE DIFFERENCE.
IT'S UNDER BUFORD COUNTY'S CONTRACT FOR US WITH THEM.
AND THEY'RE LUMPED INTO THE POT.
THEY DON'T COUNT BECAUSE THEY'RE STATE SECONDARIES NECESSARILY.
I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR PREVIOUS YEARS, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THEY HAD IT EITHER, BUT, UM, THE YEAR FIVE CONTRACT, WHICH WHILE WE'RE CURRENTLY ON, UM, IS ONE CONTRACT THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THERE IS NO ADJUSTMENT IN IT FOR EITHER THE STATE OR THE COUNTY ROAD.
SO THERE'S NO ADJUSTMENT ON IT.
UM, AS OF NOW, SO, WELL, IT WASN'T ON THE PRIOR CONTRACTS WITH THIS COMMITTEE, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHANGE ORDERS TO COUNTY, ROADS, COUNTY, AND STATE, BUT WHAT'S EVER UNDER OUR CONTRACT.
THAT'S OUR CONTRACT IS A COMBINATION OF STATE AND COUNTY ROADS.
SO IT'LL BE IN SEPTEMBER, I'LL ASK AS YOU FOR, I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WILL BE BY SEPTEMBER.
YOU'RE UP FOR ROAD RESURFACING, YEAR SEVEN AND EIGHT PROPOSAL.
SO I THINK AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, FMI PROVIDED A PAVEMENT EVALUATION, UM, PRESERVATION REPORT IN FEBRUARY.
UM, AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THEY GAVE US PROJECT LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YEAR SIX, WHICH IS THE NEXT YEAR'S PAVING, BUT JUST A GENERIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YEAR SEVEN THROUGH 10, UM, WITH THE ONE-TIME FUNDING THAT IS ANTICIPATED, COME FROM THE CTC AND THEN ALSO ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE BELIEVE IS OUT THERE THROUGH GRANTS.
AND THE LIKE, UM, WE HAVE ASKED FMI TO GIVE A PROPOSAL TO GIVE US TO REVIEW AND GIVE US THOSE PROJECT LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YEAR SEVEN AND EIGHT.
UM, THAT CHANGE THAT PROPOSAL IS $34,000, BUT THAT WAY WE HAVE PROJECTS IN THE HOPPER READY TO GO.
SO WHEN EITHER THE ONE-TIME MONEY COMES THROUGH OR ADDITIONAL FUNDING DOES COME THROUGH FROM GRANTS OR WHATEVER, WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN PUT OUT ON THE STREET IMMEDIATELY, UM, AND HAVE A PATH FORWARD.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GETTING AN OLD AHEAD OF OUR YEAR SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHERE THIS FISCAL YEAR STARTING IN ONE JULY IS WHAT YEAR SIX IS.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE DONE IN 20 24, 25 OF PULLING THOSE BACK BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE FUNDING GIVEN TO US $5.3 MILLION.
AND THEY COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AS TO WHETHER WE PROSECUTE THE WORK OR NOT.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE'LL BE PREPARED FOR IT.
IF WE, WHEN WE GET THE FUNDING, THE OTHER THING THAT'S STILL IN THE CLOUD, AND IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS WHETHER WE WILL GET, UM, WHAT REQUIREMENTS WE'LL HAVE PUT ON THAT 5.3 MILLION.
AND WHAT I MEAN TO THAT IS WHETHER IT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE IN ONE YEAR.
AND I'VE PLEADED WITH HIM TO SAY, LET US SPREAD THAT OUT OVER A TWO OR THREE-YEAR PERIOD, RATHER THAN TRYING TO SWALLOW ALL THAT AT ONE TIME AND HAVE TRIED TO USE ALL THE DOLLARS IN ONE TIME THAT WE'RE PREPARING OURSELVES LET'S, LET'S FACE IT.
WE, WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY CONTRACTORS THAT DO OUR WORK AS IS NOW AND TO THROWING ALL THAT MUCH MONEY STILL INTO THE POT TO THEM, I THINK WOULD PUT, UH, A CHOKING POINT AS WELL.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GETTING AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ROADS ANALYZED AND FOR $34,000.
SO THAT'S, WHAT'S ON THE TABLE AND I WILL POINT OUT, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT WAS DONE.
UH, THE YEAR FIVE ROADS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GONE WERE EVALUATED AND NEW RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GIVEN FOR THOSE BASED ON THE CHANGES THAT HAPPENED OVER THOSE FIVE YEARS.
WE DID IT FOR THE STATE SECONDARY ROADS AS WELL, THAT WE'RE
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PAVING.UM, SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST DOING THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS EARLY.
SO THIS IS KIND OF ADDRESSING WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
JENNY PICKING UP IS THINGS CHANGED.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO F AND M FOR $34,000 FIVE A SECOND, SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE, MOTION CARRIES.
UM, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS I KIND OF THREW IN FOR JUST GENERAL CONVERSATION AND COME ON UP, ERIC, ERIC, AND I'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND IT'S COME ON UP JEFF, CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET, YOU'RE GOING TO GET HARASSED REAL GOOD ON THIS BECAUSE, UM, I DO A LOT OF READING AND THIS, THIS STARTED THE WHOLE THING.
YOUR COMPETITORS ARE ADOPTING 3D S ALL PAVING.
SO SHOULD YOU, AND I'VE BEEN BIG TIME IN FAVOR OF 2D AND 3D, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR ON AND OFF.
I EVEN TALKED TO LELAND COLVIN ABOUT IT, AND I GOT POO-POOED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I WAS BASICALLY TOLD TO GO AWAY.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUCH A, SUCH A SUBJECT, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, IN LOOKING AT IT, WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE CONSIDER LOOKING AT US, INCORPORATING THAT INTO OUR PAVING REQUIREMENTS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND WITH THAT, ERIC I'LL LET HEADING THE BALL TO YOU.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THE BEST PRICE THAT WE CAN DO OUR CITIZENS.
SO WITH THAT, IT'S EMBRACING TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTS TODAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT ON THE BLEEDING EDGE, UH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH JEFF, SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY'VE UTILIZED, UM, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLAIN THE TWO METHODS, YOU HAVE A 2D METHOD, UH, WHICH BASICALLY USES SENSORS AND STRING LINE.
UH, SO YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT THICKNESS AS THEY'RE DOING THE, DOING THEIR OVERLAYS, UH, 3D PAVING USES MORE, UH, GPS UNITS.
IT USES A MODEL, UH, THAT THAT'S PLACED.
THE, THE PLAN IS BASICALLY PLACED INTO THE END OF THE PROGRAM SO THAT YOU HAVE CONSISTENCY AND YOU CAN, UH, DETERMINE WHAT YOUR GRADES AND YOUR SLOPES ARE.
SO THAT'S ABOUT THE LEVEL OR THE EXTENT OF MY EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA.
SO AGAIN, IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL THAT JEFF WAS GOING TO BE HERE TO TALK ON THE OTHER ITEM.
AND I'M GOING TO TURN THAT OVER TO, TO HIM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT APEX CAPABILITIES.
UM, WE USE IT PRIMARILY FOR WHEN WE'RE DOING HEAVY LEVELING OR WE'RE MOVING MAYBE CROWN POINTS OR GRADES.
UM, BUT WHEN WE'RE DOING FINISH WORK, WE, WE DON'T USE THAT.
SO IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE APPLICATION.
UM, WE, WE PURCHASED THE SYSTEM FOR A FIVE MILE STRETCH.
WE DID ON US 2 78, WHERE WE WIDENED IT FROM FOUR TO SIX LANES.
IT CUT DOWN ON, IT WAS A BETTER FOR, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.
IT CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME PEOPLE HAD TO SPEND IN TRAFFIC SURVEYING THE ROADWAY.
UM, SO WE FIND IT VERY USEFUL FOR THAT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO FINAL PAVING, FINISHED PAVING, RIDE ABILITY, WE HAVE A SONIC SKI SYSTEM WITH SENSORS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY READING THE ROAD IN REAL TIME AT FOUR POINTS OVER A 30 FOOT DISTANCE.
AND IT'S FREE TO ADJUST WITH THIS CREED PULLED BY THE TRACKER IS THE SORT OF STREET ADJUST.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHANGE HOW QUICKLY TO ADJUST, BUT THAT THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE SMOOTH RIDE ABILITY OF THE ASPHALT.
SO THE 3D MODELING, IN MY OPINION, WOULD HELP MORE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERY NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE, YOU SEE THE GRADING IS BEING DONE VIA 3D OR, OR GPS ON A LOT OF THE SURVEYING WORK.
UM, BUT W WE HAVE A MODEL, BUT WE'VE ONLY REALLY FOUND IT USEFUL FOR DOING HEAVY, LEVELING, BIGGER, THICK LIFTS.
BUT AS WE GET INTO THE FINAL TWO WEARING SURFACES, WE USE OUR, OUR SENSOR SYSTEM, UM, IN, IN OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR ELECTRONICS.
BUT THAT'S BASICALLY SONIC SENSORS ON A SKI AND JUST TO FINE TUNE THE ADJUSTMENT OF THIS GRIEF, HOW DOES IT AFFECT YOUR MILLING MACHINE WHEN THE MILLING MACHINE GOES THROUGH? DOES IT, DO YOU HAVE IT ON A MILLING MACHINE AS WELL AT THE SONIC TRACKERS ON THE MILLING MACHINE AS WELL WITH THE SKI? UM, JUST TO TRY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT, SO THE BETTER MELT SURFACE, THE BETTER, YOU KNOW, FINISHED PAVEMENT, HOPEFULLY.
UM, SO YEAH, IT WAS PRIMARILY WITH SONICS, WHICH IS MORE, I GUESS, IN LINE WITH THE 2D
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SUSIE KNOW, IT'S REALLY FOR, FOR US.AND WE HAVE A MILLIMETER SYSTEM AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IF YOU GET, WHICH MEANS IT'S TIED INTO FIXED POINTS AND IT GETS THE MARGIN OF ERROR DOWN TO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A 0.05 FEET, BUT, UM, WHAT ARE YOU FINE WITH THAT AS IF THE SURFACE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO ISN'T EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU CAN'T TAKE OUT ANY OF THOSE IMPERFECTIONS, WHICH THAT THE SONIC TRACKER STU OKAY.
2D, UM, HAS THE ONE THING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WITH BLIGHT HAS THE SAME CAPABILITIES OR NOT, BUT THE SCREED OPERATOR IS THE GUY THAT HANDLES THAT DEVICE AT THE BACK END OF THE PAVING MACHINE THAT SETS THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE, OF THE, AS WELL AS HORIZONTALLY AND GREG WISE.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS IT TAKES FOUR FEET BY THE TIME, ROUGHLY FOR THAT SCREEN CHANGE TO MAKE A MOVEMENT OR MAKE A MOVEMENT AND CHANGE THE ELEVATION THAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR PAVEMENT.
SO GRANTED THE SCREED OPERATOR HAS A GREAT DEAL OF CONTROL OVER WHAT'S THE RIGHT ABILITY IS GOING TO BE WHEN THE FINISHED PRODUCT.
AND SO I'M, AS WE'VE TALKED LAST YEAR, UH, I'M A VERY MUCH OPPONENT OF GOING NIKON HAS A SYSTEM OUT, AND I'LL JUST READ GENERAL INFORMATION.
ICON HAS A SYSTEM OUT WHERE THEY GO THROUGH, YOU CAN PUT THE SENSOR ON THE BACK OF A PICKUP AND THAT IT COSTS ABOUT A HUNDRED, WELL, UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, $90,000 WITH VIEWS AND GPS, THEY CAN DRIVE DOWN A ROAD, DO ONE LANE, COME BACK INTO THE OTHER LANE.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT STRIKES THE PROFILE OF THE ROAD.
AND WITH THAT PROFILE IS STRUCK.
ONCE IT'S STRUCK, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO BACK IN THE MILLING MACHINE THAT HAS A HEAD ON IT THAT TAKES THE GPS SIGNAL, AND IT RAISES THE MILLING MACHINES HEAD.
IS THIS GOING ALONG TO BEGIN TO GET TO CONTOURS AS WELL AS THE SLOPES THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ON THE ROAD, THEN NIKON'S NEXT SYSTEM IS ON THE HA HAS A MAST HEAD AGAIN.
AND IT CONTROLS THE SCREED ON THE PAVER.
SO WHEN THE PAVERS GOING BY IS PICKING THE GPS SIGNAL UP, READING IT, AND AGAIN, SETTING THE SCREED AND IT ALLOWS THE PAVEMENT, IT, THE BENEFITS OF ALL THIS.
WELL, THE LAST PART IS THE ROWER, AS THE ROAR COMES ACROSS, HE'S ALSO TRACKING THE AMOUNT OF COMPACTION YOU'RE GETTING.
AND SO WHEN IT'S DONE, THEY TAKE THE SYSTEM OFF THE ROWER AND YOU HAVE AS-BUILTS FOR THE ROAD.
DID YOU JUST RESURFACE? AND IT'S, IT'S A NEAT PROCESS.
AND THAT'S WHERE CRAIG GORDON IS TRYING TO PUSH US.
SO THAT'S WHERE I WENT TO LELAND ABOUT THAT'S MY, MY PICTURE DOWN THE ROAD, WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE PAVING BEING DONE.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VISION THAT THIS GUY HAS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME PUSHING IT MORE AND MORE AND MORE AS TIME GOES ON.
SO I THINK THEY WERE A VIDEO OR SOMETHING.
IF YOU GO TO NIKON'S WEBSITE, THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, YEAH.
THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO PUT IT ON FROM THE TOTAL MILLING MACHINE TO THE ROLLING THE WHOLE SYSTEM, LESS THAN $200,000 TO PUT HER ON ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THEY, THE EFFICIENCIES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET WITH WITH THE SURFACE WILL PAY FOR ITSELF IN NO TIME, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BRICK COST, THE ADJUSTMENT YOU'LL HAVE YOUR, WHAT YOU'VE ESTIMATED IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING DOWN.
THE, THE RISK AROUND IT, THAT IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WERE TO MAIL WITH GPS, AND FOR SOME REASON YOU GOT TOO DEEP, YOU RUN THE RISK OF COMPROMISING THE STRUCTURE OF THE ROADWAY.
IN MY OPINION, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THE WORK WE'RE DOING FOR COUNTY RESURFACING IS TAKING OFF AN INCH, INCH AND A HALF SOMETIMES NOT.
AND THEN EITHER PUTTING THAT BACK OR STRENGTHENING IT, UM, THE SYSTEM WHERE USING I CAN GET, MAYBE USE SOME INFORMATION.
UM, IT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DESIGNED MORE FOR SMOOTHNESS AND WE'RE RUNNING OUT ON OUR MILLING MACHINES AND, AND PAVING MACHINES.
SO IT WOULD APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING IT.
AND THEN OUR GPS FOR 3D SYSTEM IS ALSO A TOP CON I, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT, ERIC.
EVERYTHING IS SCARY, BUT YOUR MOUTHPIECE DOWN, SO WE UNDERSTAND YOU, RIGHT? YOU SAID YOU, PERHAPS WE ARE GOING TO BE PUSHING THIS.
YOU MEAN, WE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE PUSHING THIS FOR THE COUNTY'S ENTIRE RESURFACING PROGRAM TO BE USED
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IN THAT ALL I'M SAYING IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE AHEAD OF WHERE THE CONTRACTORS ARE.AND I I'M, I'M PURPOSELY SPEAKING FOR CRAIG GORDON.
WHEN I SAID, I'M AN ADVOCATE OF THIS, OF A 3D PAINTER, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ADVOCATING IT FOR BUFORD COUNTY'S REPAVING PROGRAM? NOT JUST THE ROLE THAT THE, THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS.
I I'M GOING TO LET THEM ADDRESS IT FOR THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE, ERIC IS HERE, BRIAN'S HERE.
THEY, THEY WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.
IT'S THEIR DECISION JARED'S DECISION.
BUT IF SOMETHING IS, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF SOMETHING IS DECIDED UPON THAT IT WOULD BE USED FOR EVERY REPAVING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN DO FOR COUNTY.
YOU HAVE A, I MEAN, MOST OF THE STUFF IS ON THE WEB PAGE OUT THERE.
UH, IS THERE A CASE ACTUALLY GO TO HIT THE LITTLE EDUCATION ON WHAT YOU JUST GOT TALKING ABOUT? WE'LL GET THAT FOR YOU.
I'LL GET SOME INFORMATION TO ERIC.
YOU, AND THAT'S A PERFECT SEGUE INTO, UM, PAVING TECHNOLOGY.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE SEEN MICRO SURFACING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO WATCH.
YOU'LL SEE UP ON THE SCREEN THIS UP BEFORE THEY RUN IT, WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE A TRUCK IN THE FRONT AND THE TRUCK HAS VERY SMALL AGGREGATE IN IT.
AND THAT TRUCK CONVEYS IT BACK INTO A CHUTE.
AND ON THE ORANGE MACHINE, ORANGE MACHINE TAKES THAT, UM, THE GRAVEL LIGHTWEIGHT, AGGREGATE, AGGREGATE, AND MIXES IT WITH AN ASPHALT EMULSION AND YOU'LL SEE IT THEN BEING APPLIED IN A MICRO SURFACE.
SO WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MICROSURFACING, I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A WAVE TO S TO THIS WAS DONE IN CHARLESTON COUNTY.
SO GO AHEAD AND PUSH THE MAGIC BUTTON.
NOW YOU HAVE THE OTHER ONE ALSO PAVING TECHNOLOGY HAS DONE OUR MICRO RESURFACING HERE FOR US.
SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO BE LUCKY THAN SMART.
THAT'S A WRAP GRAVEL BEING DUMPED IN THE FRONT END OF THE RESTRAINT
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SO THAT WAS MORE FOR GENERAL INFORMATION.ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE, PAVING TECHNOLOGY'S WEBSITE AND SEE OTHER FILMS ON IT AND OTHER TECHNIQUES THAT ARE USED.
TREASURER'S REPORT MR. BAKKER.
UM, NO SPECIFIC TAKEAWAYS FROM THE REPORT, JUST TO NOTE THAT, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE THE, UM, JUNE DATA IS STILL BEING FINALIZED FOR COMPLETION.
THAT WAS THE LAST MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
WHEN WE MEET IN SEPTEMBER, UH, WE'LL HAVE REPORT FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR.
SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY, ANYTHING SPECIFIC HERE, NO ISSUES FOR YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF.
AND WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE ON OUR COMMITMENT TO MEET OUR STATE SECONDARY ROAD COMMITMENT FOR THE, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE THE END OF THE END OF 2022 FINALIZED BY THE NEXT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE A PRELIMINARY FORECAST OF WHAT WILL BE APPORTIONED TO US FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE JUST STARTED, UM, THAT, THAT FORECAST AGAIN, THAT HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED, BUT THAT'S ABOUT 2.5, 6 MILLION FOR THE C FUND PROGRAM QUESTION, BRITTANY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY.
PUBLIC COMMENT TO ANY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO OUR TOPICS UP TODAY, GERMANY HAS THREE QUICK COMMENTS BY ALL MEANS.
HI, I'M ANNA-MARIE TABERNAC AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SUN CITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
SO I'M REFERRING TO OLD BUSINESS, FIVE C THE ONE 70 UPDATE.
AND I'M ALSO REFERRING TO YOUR MINUTES FROM MAY THE SECOND LAST LINE, WHERE, WHERE IT SAID THERE ARE ADDITIONAL MIDTERM PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT DEL WEBB SEA GRASS.
SO I BELIEVE IT WAS ERIC THAT SPOKE ABOUT CONGESTION AND SAFETY CONCERNS AT DEL WEBB, SEA GRASS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN HARPING ON THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND ALSO THE INTERSECTION AT TIDE WASH WHERE BEAUTIFUL MEMORIAL PUT THEIR EMERGENCY ROOM ON ONE 70.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THE COMMITTEE COULD TELL ME WHAT KIND OF SOLUTIONS ARE IN THE MIX FOR THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS AS THEY IMPACT A LOT OF MY RESIDENTS.
I THINK WHAT I'LL QUANTIFY ERIC, IF YOU WANT.
IT WAS A, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE IN BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
SO AT THE DEL WEBB SEAGRASS INTERSECTION, UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED THERE.
SO PER THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, OR ETCD, THERE'S NINE DIFFERENT LAURENS THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE TRAFFIC.
UM, THEY, SO AS THE STUDY WAS RONNIE WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY COORDINATED BY THE CITY OF BLUFFTON.
UM, IT DID NOT MEET THE WARRANTS FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE METHODS FOR SAFETY IN THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, IT'S CALLED AN ARCHIT OR REDUCE CONFLICT INTERSECTION.
UM, IT BASICALLY DISALLOWS A LEFT TURNS OFF THE SIDE STREET, UH, AND ALLOWS A U-TURN MOVEMENT AT A CERTAIN DISTANCE, UM, IN EITHER DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS CURRENTLY WAS BEING CONSIDERED.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT DID, THAT, DID THAT REVIEW.
UM, SO THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, WITH A COM, WHICH IS A DESIGNER ON THAT PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UH, UH, WITH THAT DESIGN.
SO AGAIN, THERE WILL BE WE'LL HA THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC MEETING PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH ON THAT, UH, AGAIN, TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC, TO COME BACK IN AND GIVE US FEEDBACK, UM, ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, AS FAR AS TIDE WATCH, UH, THERE IS, THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO, UH, TO THE DISTRICT
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TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR ALTERATIONS TO THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION AT TIDE WATCH.UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.
ONE OF THE REALLY, UH, TH THE FASTEST IMPROVEMENT THAT WE CAN DO THERE IS AN ALTAR IS AN ALTERATION TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO ACTUALLY ADD LEFT TURNS AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH DISTRICT TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO SEE IF THAT IS A POTENTIAL FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, OTHERWISE THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT WE HAVE WOULD BE TO, UH, BETTER ALIGN THE LEFT TURNS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE SIGHT DISTANCE ISSUE.
UM, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN COSTS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE TO 500,000 VERSUS 30 OR $40,000 FOR THIS SIGNAL, UH, IMPLEMENTATION.
SO, UM, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE REALLY THE TWO ALTERNATIVES, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH DISTRICT TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN, UH, WHAT WE CAN, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH ON, ON THAT INTERSECTION.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TERMING MOVEMENT DONE AT, UH, SEAGRASS IN SOME CITY OR DEALT WITH, EXCUSE ME, IT WAS WHENEVER, WHENEVER BLUFFTON PERFORM THAT STUDY LAST YEAR.
I MEAN, IT W IT'S BEEN WITHIN, IT'S BEEN WITHIN THE LAST, AT LEAST YEAR AND A HALF FROM WHEN THE LAST TRACK WAS DONE.
AND I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HEAR THIS, THAT TRAFFIC TURNING MOVEMENT SHOWED THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE WARRANTS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS ON RIVERBEND.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ONE 70 PROJECT THAT ADDRESSES THAT PARTICULAR SECTION? YES, YES.
THAT WAS IN YOUR TERM SOLUTIONS.
UM, THREE QUICK ITEMS UNDER CHAIRMAN COMMENTS, UH, SIX OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, HAVE TO MAKE WELL, YOU MAKE THE DECISION BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
THERE'S SIX MEMBERS THAT THEIR APPOINTMENT RUNS OUT AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
FIRST, ACTUALLY JANUARY ONE, ONE, FEBRUARY, TO BE EXACT.
SO THOSE THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERING WE'VE HAVE A BUNCH OF NEW COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AFTER WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT AFTER THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, BUT, UH, YOU NEED TO BE CONSIDERING WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEE GREEN PORSCHE REAPPOINTMENT OR NOT.
NEXT ITEM IS I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU, AREN'T GOING TO BE AT A MEETING TO NOTIFY ME IN ADVANCE RATHER THAN LETTING SOME, ANYBODY ELSE.
SO IT'S JUST A COURTESY, SO I CAN WALK IN AND SAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DON'T.
I WOULD APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT.
AND LASTLY, UH, I'LL HAVE THIS SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
I JUST GOT IT YESTERDAY, LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
UM, THE COUNTY HAS A PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER AND THEY DID A, UM, A WRITE UP ON OUR, ON OUR COMMITTEE AND PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND, UM, UH, UH, UH, GIVE A QUICK READ TO IT.
SO YOU HEAR WHAT'S COMING OUT 200, TWO MILES OF ROADS IN BUFORD COUNTY, SEE CONDITIONS IMPROVED TO BE BASED ON THE LATEST STUDY BY FMI CONSULTANTS, THE 202 MILES OF BUFORD COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAY SAW ITS PAVEMENT CONDITIONS IMPROVE FROM A C TO A B OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
THE COUNTY NETWORK HAS NEVER REVIEWED, HAS NEVER BEEN REVIEWED BEFORE WE MADE THE DECISION IN 2017 TO CRAIG GORDON, CHAIRMAN OF THE BEAVER COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
WE FELT THE NECESSITY TO SPEND OUR LIMITED FUNDS WISELY WITH NO POLITICAL INFLUENCE AND TO GIVE THE BEST OF THE PEOPLE VISITORS AND THE RESIDENTS ALIKE.
APPROXIMATELY 60 MILES OF ROADWAY WERE IMPROVED BETWEEN 2017 AND 2021 EVALUATIONS COSTING AROUND 10 MILLION FROM STATE GASOLINE SALES TAX MONEY.
THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR PLAN HAS ABOUT 110 MILES OF ROAD CONDITION IMPROVED.
ACCORDING TO THIS YEAR'S WORK SCHEDULED, NO ROADS WILL BE IN A VERY POOR CATEGORY.
THE BUFORD COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE LED BY CRAIG GORDON HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, DEVELOPING A FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO IMPROVE ALL THE ROADWAYS OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
SO JARED FRAELICH, ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR INFRASTRUCTURE, THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE KNOW WE CAN GET IT UP TO AN EIGHT BUFORD COUNTY HIRED F AND M E CONSULTANTS IN 2021 TO CONDUCT A PAVEMENT CONDITION SURVEY AND ALL COUNTY OWNED ROADS FIVE YEARS AFTER IMPLEMENTING THE 2017
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FIVE-YEAR PAVEMENT PRESERVE PRESERVATION PROGRAM.THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE 20 20, 20 22, 20 23 TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
AND THE RECENT SURVEY, ALMOST 200 MILES OF ROADWAY WERE DETERMINED TO BE FAIR, GOOD, OR VERY GOOD, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE SERVICEABLE AND COMFORTABLE FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS.
AND I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THE REST OF IT, BUT IT, UM, IT'S A NICE ARTICLE THAT WAS PUT OUT CONGRATULATING THE COMMITTEE ON THE WORK WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO WITH THAT, I SEE NOTHING BOARD COME BEFORE OUR COMMITTING HEREBY ADJOURN.