Jul 12, 2022 Bluffton Town Council

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>> WHAT'S TAKING THERE IS ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION COUNCIL.

SO THERE YOU SEE THE WE ARE OUT FOUR OUT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE HAVE SOME ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE ANY COUNSELOR WE HAVE ACTION FROM

[VI. Action from Executive Session *Meeting Is Joined In Progress*]

>> THAT'S UNANIMOUS REGARDING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS HERE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ENFORCEMENT, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

>> SOME OF THEIR SECOND SESSION ARE THOSE PROCEDURES CAN BE ONLINE SO PUBLIC CAN WELLS SO

THEY WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE PACKAGE BE ON MEETING. >> OK.

ALL SET OF SAYING I I OPPOSE THAT'S UNANIMOUS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT FELIPE FRAZIER TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, YOUR SECOND CIRCUIT?

>> ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I OPPOSED? THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

[VII. Adoption of the Minutes]

MOVING ON TO ADOPTION. >> THE MINUTE WE HAD TWO MEETINGS FARMER THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 14TH HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THERE.

ANY CHANGES IF NOT AS A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MEETING MINUTES? DOMO HERE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY BY SAYING I OPPOSE AND THEN WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING ON JUNE 21ST. ANY CHANGES IN MOTION TO APPROVE ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I OPPOSE? THAT'S UNANIMOUS PUBLIC

[VIII. Public Comment]

COMMENTS. S DO YOU MR. CHAIRMAN? >> SHERROD BROWN HAD A COMMENT THAT SHE WANTED ME TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW SHE COULD NOT BE HERE.

YOU HAVE ANDREW YOU GOT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEW TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> COME PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS. THE COUNCIL TRY CONFINE YOURSELVES TO THE QUESTIONS UNDER OUR JURISDICTION AND BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL THAT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BECAUSE WE NEED IT FOR THE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.

EVENING. MY NAME IS ANDREW KEEL. I LIVE AT 22 TRAIL RIDGE RETREAT IN BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. I WAS WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE GROWTH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE BUT THERE IS A CENTRAL POOL SUBDIVISION COMING IN BEHIND OUR CURRENT SUBDIVISION MIDPOINT IN RIVERSIDE.

>> IT'S AN I GUESS DEVELOPMENT GO INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT TIME.

BUT ANYHOW, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT GROWTH IN GENERAL. FIRST I WANTED TO MENTION I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE BUT POWER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN GOING OUT JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY FOR THE PAST MONTH OR SOMETIMES FIVE, 10 MINUTES.

SOME TIME OFF AND ON. BUT YOU KNOW, IF I'M HAVING POWER PROBLEMS WITH MY POWER NOW WE'LL ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN NEW RIVERSIDE. I'M NOT SURE THE GRID CAN ACTUALLY HANDLE IT SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WEIGHT THE ENGINES WILL SERVE NOTICE ACTUALLY HAS BECAUSE THERE'S ISSUES NOW IN IT. IF YOU'VE BEEN ON NEXT DOOR YOU'LL SEE THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMMENTING ABOUT THEIR POWER BEING OUT.

YOU KNOW, FIRST THING. SECOND THING IS THE SCHOOLS. CAROL CRUTCHFIELD SEEMS TO SPEAK IN JUST ABOUT EVERY MEETING THAT I'VE BEEN TO WHICH IS ONLY TO STATING THAT OFTEN SCHOOLS ARE OVERCAPACITY. SOME LIKE SIX OF THE ELEVEN ARE AND THE OTHER ONES ARE GONNA BE OVER CAPACITY SOON. I KNOW A NEW RIVERSIDE. THERE'S THE LIKES THE RENTAL PLACE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. THE LANDINGS POTENTIAL IS NEW PULTE SUBDIVISION. I ASSUME THERE'S 400 HOUSES GOING IN BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HOW MANY HOUSES ARE GOING IN THE LAKES OR THE LANDINGS BUT THAT'S QUITE A FEW MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE GOING TO SCHOOLS AND I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IN GENERAL. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.

BUT ANYHOW, DO YOU HAVE A BIT OF CONTROL OVER THE DEVELOPMENTS AND MAYBE THINGS

SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT NOW? >> NEXT THING IN THIS KIND OF TIES INTO THE PD AND GROWTH

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INC. >> CONTROLS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO'S ON THAT COMMITTEE HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH MS. I EMAILED WIL HOWARD WHO I BELIEVE IS SOME PLANNING DEVELOPMENT VOTE. FIRST TURNOVER OVER AND COLEMAN BLUFF AND HE SAID THEY DID SOME REPAIRS AND MORE WILL BE DONE. WHEN THEY'RE NECESSARY.

WELL I MEAN HE MUST THINK LOUSY ROADS ARE OK BECAUSE SOMEBODY DROPS A WHEEL ON A FOOT.

THEY'RE GOING TO DAMAGE THEIR CAR AND SOMEBODY MIGHT GET INJURED ANYHOW.

THESE PD HAVE COME IN TO EXISTENCE AND THE MASTER PLANS AND ALL THIS STUFF.

I JUST THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE TOWN TO GET TOUGH ON THESE DEVELOPERS MYSELF.

>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I'LL COME NEXT TIME.

FINISH ABSOLUTELY. >> AND WE WE HAVE TIME TO RESPOND WITH COMMENTS FROM YOUR COUNCIL. BUT WE DON'T RESPOND AFTER EACH PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO DAMON AND SIDNEY HOLLAND FOR EXAMPLE, SIDNEY HOLLAND 31 BAINBRIDGE WAY ARE JUST REAL BRIEFLY. I'M COMING IN REGARDS TO BUYING A PORT WHICH IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THESE NEW HEADWATERS DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO THE STOPLIGHT THERE ON THE MAIN 278 ROAD.

WE LIVE ON THAT ROAD BONAPARTE SO WE'RE ABOUT 200 PLUS OR MINUS FEET FROM THE ACTUAL ONE LANE OR TWO LANE STREET. NOW ORGAN ONE CONCERN THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO RESPOND MORE BUT WITH IT THEY DIDN'T HAVE I GUESS TIME TO PLAN TO BE HERE.

POSSIBLY EXTENDING THIS TO GET MORE COMMENT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THE BASICALLY THE CONCERN IS THE MOUNT TRAFFIC WAS GONNA INCREASE FROM THAT LIGHT BEING CONNECTED RIGHT NOW WHERE A CAR EVERY TWO TO THREE MINUTES. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONSTANT FLOW OF CARS COMING BEHIND OUR HOUSE WHICH WOULD POSSIBLY AFFECT OUR VALUES FOR OUR PROPERTY AS ONE.

ONE CONCERN THE NOISE LEVEL IS ANOTHER CONCERN. WHEN YOU COME OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE CURRENT TRAFFIC LOAD YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE COMING OUT THAT ROAD IN ORDER NOT TO GET HIT BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF A BLIND CURVE ON BOTH SIDES.

>> SO AS THEY HIT THAT CURVE, YOU KNOW THEY'RE SPEEDING. SOMETIMES THEY DO.

YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE HAVE KIDS AND EVERYTHING TO CROSS OVER FROM PARK AND EVERYTHING. POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION OF FALLING STOP SIGN THERE IF YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIGHT CONNECTION. HOLLY AGAINST ANY FOR LANDING OF THAT ROAD. EVERYBODY IS IT WOULD DRASTICALLY AFFECT OUR VALUES IN BUYING PARK AND PARKS. THAT'S ABOUT IT. GOOD FOR WE'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY HAVE GOALS DURING THE MORNING TIME WHEN THE SCHOOLS COMING ALONG OR IF YOU HAVE A FIRE SITUATION THE FIRE TRUCKS ARE COMING OUT THAT LIE AT WALTER HAMPTON LAKES IS GOING TO BE IT'S ALREADY BACKED UP NOW. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE SCHOOL IN IT'S GONNA DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THAT PROBLEM BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.

JUST THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF FINALIZING WHATEVER AGREEMENT IS FOR THE MASTER PLAN ON THAT SECTION THAT WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. NAVAJO. YEAH.

I'M ROBERT GOLD. I LIVE IT TO BY FINDING TRIBE WHICH IS ALLEN WEST AND ME AND MY COMMENTS THIS MORNING WILL BE PRIMARILY FOR A HEAD WITHOUT DEVELOPMENT.

AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT AGAINST ANY DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE ONLY CONCERNED HOW OR IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM ONE OF FIVE BOARD MEMBERS DIRECTORS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY MY HOME OR MY PROPERTY IS 1 2. THAT WILL BE THE MOST IMPACT BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. I WAS UNABLE 10 FIRST PAINTING BUT I FULLY SUPPORT MR. CUB PRESENTED TO YOU AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER.

I WOULD ASK UNLESS I HAVE AIRED I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING WITHIN YOUR WEB SITE.

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THE OTHER THING IS I WOULD ASK IF IT'S NOT AN IN WHERE I AM ABLE TO FIND THAT YOU CONSIDER A WORK HOURS SCHEDULE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS NO WEEKENDS OR HOLIDAYS AND REASONABLE THERE NORMAL WORKDAY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK WHEN WE FINISH WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. JIM JIM CUFF 233 VISE IRELAND DRIVE. ALSO IRELAND WEST. I'M TALKING WITH SE THE DEVELOPMENT THEY HAVE AGREED TO PUT UP FENCING ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE IT'S THE TOTAL PROPERTY LINE NOT JUST OF RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT BACKS UP IT HITS HOLES ELEVEN TWELVE AND ALSO THE DRIVING RANGE.

WE WOULD LIKE THAT PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THERE. THE OTHER COMMENT IS I'VE TAKEN A COUPLE OF TRIPS DOWN HAMPTON PARKWAY. AND ONCE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PHASE A, B AND C ON THIS PROGRAM YOU'RE GOING TO REQUEST AT THE HAMPTON PARKWAY BE FINISHED FROM THE Y ALL THE WAY UP TO THE LAKE AND WITH THE PARK SIDE BERNARD PARK, THE NEW APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT GOING ON RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF BACKWATER THE THREE HUNDRED APARTMENTS HERE ISLAND WEST AND I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO MEET AT TOYOTA DRIVE AND WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO NAME THE THING COMING OUT OF THERE. THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC COME INTO ONE CENTRAL POINT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT A LIGHT THERE BECAUSE IT'S ONLY ABOUT 200 YARDS FROM THE LIGHT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON 270. I THINK YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW AROUND ABOUT OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IF IT'S A TWO WAY STOP SIGN IT'S GONNA BE BACK UP TRAFFIC. AND WHEN YOU BACK UP TRAFFIC, PEOPLE WHO ARE TIRED OF WAITING AND THEY START JUMPING THE SIGNS AND IF IT'S A FOUR WAY I THINK ROUNDABOUTS HAVE A BETTER WAY OF KEEPING TRAFFIC FLOW MOVING.

YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THOSE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, SIR. >> IT'S NICE TO SEE NEW FACES. I WILL.

REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET SOME AIR AND COUNCIL COMMENTS. WE DO A LOCAL TOWN HALL NOW AND WE HAD DONE ONE HERE FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN HELP YOU WITH. WITH SO MANY NEW PEOPLE MOVE TO THE AREA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED DECADES AGO TO WHAT'S GOING ON, HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED.

PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR TOWN MANAGER STEVEN SEATS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE ALL THAT FACEBOOK

[IX. Communications from Mayor and Council]

COUNCIL COMMENTS ARE ANYTHING FROM THE OLD. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN THE JULY 4TH CELEBRATION WHICH TOOK PLACE ON JULY 2ND WAS A HOME RUN AND I THOUGHT THE TOWN DID

A STELLAR JOB. >> I KNOW MR. STEVENS PUSH FOR THIS AND IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON WHERE MY TIME FOR CELEBRATION THAT EVENT STAFF DID A TREMENDOUS JOB IN PLANNING THIS EVENT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT INTO THE FUTURE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO COMMAND THE STAFF BECAUSE I SAW THEM OUT THERE WORKING AS SOON AS THIS EVENT ENDED DOING PICK UP AND CLEAN UP AND THEN THEY WERE BACK THE NEXT MORNING AND OUR TOWN LOOKED JUST LIKE IT HAD NEVER BEEN TOUCHED.

AND SO THOSE FOLKS PUBLICS WORKS AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IT IS STELLAR JOB STEPHENS PLEASE

PASS THAT ON ON ITS ON PUBLIC COMMENT. >> NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD IS A PRIVATE ROAD OWNED BY A BLUFF AND IF WE HAVE YOUR EMAIL I DON'T SEE THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THAT WE CAN GET SOMEONE TO EMAIL YOU ON WHO THAT CONTACT IS REGARDING THAT ROAD.

WE DO HAVE WORKING HOURS AND I'M LOOKING AT WHO COMES UP. WE DO HAVE WORKING HOURS WITH OUR PROJECTS AND IF YOU EVER THINK WE'RE STRAYING FROM IT AND I'M NOT IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR WEBSITE SOMETIMES EITHER BUT AGAIN ON THAT COMMENT WE CAN SEND YOU A LINK TO THE WEBSITE SHOWING WHERE OUR HOURS ARE AND IF WE EVER NEED TO MAKE.

IF SOMEONE COMES FOR A REASON SAY POURING OR SOME WEIRD REASON IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE

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>> ALL RIGHT. MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY SEVEN TO SEVEN SUNDAY SEVEN TO TWELVE. MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY SEVEN TO SEVEN.

AND SUNDAY SEVEN TO 12. SO PLEASE EXCUSE ME MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 77.

>> SUNDAY 12:00 TO 7:00. SO WE CONTINUE THAT LINK HAMPTON PARKWAY.

WE ACTUALLY OWN. I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF ANYONE UP HERE UNDERSTANDS WHY WE

DECIDED ON THE BUILD THAT ROAD BUT WE DID. >> AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAYBE KNEW THAT ROAD WAS A THOROUGHFARE FROM 278 TO HAMP, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND WHEN THE COUNTY AND STATE WIDEN THAT ROAD, THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO CUT THAT OFF.

AND WE FAULT FOR THAT BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS NEEDED TO HAVE ACCESS TO 278 IF FOR ONLY A REASON TO TURN RIGHT. SO THERE WAS THERE WAS A THOROUGHFARE. SO YOU MIGHT BE NEW TO THE AREA AND NOT REALIZE THAT BUT WE DO ON IT. I DON'T KNOW A REASON WHY THIS COUNCIL WOULD EVER CONSIDER FOR LINING BUT IT COMES TO COUNCIL. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING AND YOU VOTE FOR US.

SO WE WILL LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS AND THEN THE MOBILE TOWNHOME I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS WITH NEW RESIDENTS AND OLDER RESIDENTS TO TO BE PUT TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR MOBILE TOWNHOMES, TOWN HALLS, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA IS FAR EASIER TO MANEUVER THAN OUR WEB SITE BUT IT'S ALWAYS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PROPERTIES AND THE ONE ON THE PROJECT COME ON BEFORE CONNECTING PRIVACY FENCE WE'LL ADDRESS IT WITH THE WHEN WE GET THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

[X. 1. Direction and Input on the Consideration of Proposed Amendments to the Town of Bluffton’s Municipal Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23, Unified Development Ordinance, Article 5 – Design Standards, 5.15.8 Building Types, M. River House, as it Relates to the Maximum Footprint, Building Footprint, and Height – Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]

I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING FROM OK. >> NEXT IS A WORKSHOP ITEM AND THIS FIRST ONE IS HEAVEN DIRECTION AND INPUT ON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER TWENTY THREE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ARTICLE 5 POINT 1 5 1 8 BUILDING TYPES ELM RIVER HOUSE AS IT RELATES THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT AND HEIGHT AND FOUR NEW RESIDENTS AND NEW AUDIENCE YOU CAN ALWAYS GO ON OUR AGENDA CENTER ON OUR WEB SITE WHICH IS EASY TO FIND. IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF OUR MAIN PAGE AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY FOLLOW ALONG AND SEE THE LINKS TO EVERYTHING WE GET YOU GET.

SO THERE HYPERLINK SOME ALL OF THIS AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT LATER ON.

YOU HAVE A LAPTOP OR THING WITH YOU TONIGHT. >> GOOD EVENING.

AND COUNCIL, AS YOU STATED, WE'RE HERE. THIS IS A WORKSHOP FOR SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU GUYS SOME INPUT ON CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DESIGN STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO THE RIVER HOUSE AND THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT FOOTPRINT AND BUILDING SIZE. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN THE FRONT EDGE HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP HERE WHERE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED. WE HAVE SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPES IN THIS CASE WE HAVE A RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPE. SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO STAFF IS YOU GUYS REMEMBER ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN WE MADE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE TO RESTRICT THE FOOTPRINT OF BUILDINGS. WE WE MADE A STATEMENT THAT APPLIED TO ALL FOOTPRINTS AND ALL BUILDINGS ARE IN ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT PUT A CAP.

THERE IS A CAP ON THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FOOTPRINT FOR A BUILDING THAT WAS ALLOWED.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT IS INTERESTED IN EXPANDING ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND IT'S A IT'S A SINGLE STORY PROPERTY BUT THEY ARE LIMITED IN IN THE FOOTPRINT. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT. JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS TO

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE HERE FOR YOUR INPUT. >> SO AS YOU CAN SEE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED WE HAVE A SIZE RANGE FOR THE RIVER HOUSE WHICH IS TWO THOUSAND TO FOURTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET AND IT SAYS A HEIGHT OF TWO STORIES TO TWO AND HALF STORIES AND THEN ALSO THAT MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT OF TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET SO THAT I HIGHLIGHTED THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON THAT.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A RIVER HOUSE. SO IT HAS THE VERNACULAR STYLE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THEN TYPICALLY HAVE WINGS ON ON EITHER SIDE.

THIS IS THAT RIVER FRONT EDGE HIS HISTORIC ZONING DISTRICT. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 32 LOTS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THAT DISTRICT. AND I'VE JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED YOU SO YOU'D SEE FACTORY PARK AS WELL A CHURCH OF THE CROSS WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED JUST GIVE YOU A REFERENCE POINT TWENTY TWO OF THOSE LOTS ARE CURRENTLY

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SO WE FOUND SOME CONSISTENCY AS WE WERE GOING THIS PROCESS. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN ITEM THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS. TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS CLEANED UP.

>> SO WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF ALL OF THE HOMES THAT THAT ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAVE THAT RIVER HOUSE REQUIREMENT OF A MAXIMUM OF TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOOTPRINT. I'VE HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND YOU CAN SEE AND I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A MAJORITY OF THEM THAT ARE ALREADY OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET AND THEIR FOOTPRINT AS WELL AS YOU CAN THEN SEE THE HEIGHT OF THEM WHICH SOME ARE YOU KNOW, ONE STORY MAJORITY OR TWO ONE STORIES, A FEW TWO STORIES AND THEN ONE AND A HALF STORIES. SO WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY REALIZING THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT A LOT OF THESE HOMES IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME IN TO EXPAND ON THEIR HOME, THEY'RE ALREADY NONCONFORMING. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE ALSO IS JUST TRY TO PROVIDE THAT COMPARISON OF SIDE BY SIDE OF THE RIVER HOUSE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE. SO IF IF A HOUSE DOES NOT FALL UNDER A SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPE ,WE GO TO THAT ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A CATCH ALL OF STRUCTURES. SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE DO ALLOW FOR THE HEIGHTS AND STORIES OF THE ONE TO TWO AND HALF STORIES AND THAT SIZE RANGE FOR THE CENTER HALL IS THE 5000 AND 500. AND THAT'S AT A TWO AND A HALF STOREY STRUCTURE. SO TO TO FACILITATE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS HERE. THE FIRST ONE IS WE'D TALK ABOUT THE RIVER HOUSE AND ADDITIONAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS TO EXPAND THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF THE RIVER HOUSE AND ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPES TO ALLOW IT TO OR IT'S NOT TO EXCEED THAT FOUR THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IN OVERALL SIZE AND ONLY THE ONE STORY WHAT THAT IS IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE FRONT EDGE ZONING DISTRICT? THE GOAL IS THAT A LOT OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE ARE ONE STOREY HOUSE HOUSES AND IF THEY WANT TO DO ANY TYPE OF EXPANSION EVEN ADDING A BATHROOM OR A YOU KNOW, JUST A BEDROOM THEY ARE ALREADY EXCEEDING THAT MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOWED AGAIN.

BACK TO THIS. THIS COAT THIS DATA SHEET RIGHT HERE SO YOU CAN SEE BY HAVING 48 HUNDRED SQUARE FEET I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO PROPERTIES THAT WOULD THEN EXCEED THAT.

>> BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM WOULD THEN HAVE THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR HOME AND STILL BE UNDER THAT THAT FOOTPRINT ALLOTMENT. AND AGAIN THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RIVERFRONT EDGE ZONING DISTRICT AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPE.

SO THE ONE OPTION IS TO EXPAND THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR THAT THAT LARGER FOOTPRINT.

>> THE OTHER OPTION IS TO NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL. AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS YOU THEN BE REQUIRED FOR ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT THAT DO NOT MEET THAT CURRENT REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'RE ALREADY OVER THAT MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT THAT'S ALLOWED.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND REQUEST A VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE HARDSHIP. AND THE REASON THAT THEY HAVE A HARDSHIP IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES WERE WERE CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO 2011 AND OUR CODE CAME INTO INTO INTO BEING IN 2011. SO SO THEY WERE ALREADY IN A NONCONFORMING STATUS WHEN THE CODE THE CODE WAS CREATED . SO THE OPTIONS AND YOU COULD HAVE YOU JUST ALLOW AS ON A ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS SOMEONE WOULD JUST THEN COME IN IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND REQUEST A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR ANY TYPE OF EXPANSION ON THEIR PROPERTY OR WE CAN CHANGE THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR THAT B BY RIGHT. SO THAT WAY THEY COULD JUST

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SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS. NOW I DID PUT YOU SEE ON THE THIRD ONE HERE THAT INCONSISTENCY THAT WE'VE FOUND THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND UPDATE THAT SET UPDATE THAT INFORMATION. SO DEPENDING ON HOW YOU GUYS DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IF WE GO WITH A YUKIO EDITS AT THIS TIME WE WOULD INCLUDE UPDATING THOSE INCONSISTENCIES OR IF YOU DECIDE TO STICK WITH THE VARIANCE OPTION WE WOULD THEN MOVE THOSE CODE EDITS OVER TO OUR ANNUAL OUR ANNUAL VIDEO UPDATE. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING A RUNNING TALLY OF ANY ANY INCONSISTENT SEES THAT WE SEE THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED AND WE WOULD BRING ALL OF THOSE TO YOU AT ONE TIME. AT ONE POINT DURING THE YEAR JUST AS A HOUSEKEEPING HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. SO TOM, WOULD YOU DO THAT? I THINK WE PUT IT IN THE IN THE

PIPELINE FOR. >> OH, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO WAIT AND HAVE A LOOK WHERE I

SAY THE WRONG MONTH. >> YES. AND I'M I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. WORKSHOP AREA I HAVE A COMMENT

ON THE FIRST WE'D LIKE TO SAY I THINK THIS IS GREAT. >> KEVIN FOR YOU OUGHT TO BE GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT INCONSISTENCIES AND THEN UPDATING THEM.

MY QUESTION IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THIS PATH IN TERMS OF MAKING THE ADJUSTMENT FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY AT MAX CAPACITY WITH THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE, WOULD THEIR APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE TO BE ZERO ALSO TRIGGER THEM TO GO BACK IN FRONT OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN TERMS OF LIKE GOING BACK TO STORMWATER OR. YES.

YES. >> THEY WOULD STILL SINCE ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. ANY ADDITIONS OR ANY MODIFICATIONS DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WOULD GO REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OR ANY SORT WONDERFUL.

>> SIXTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET THEY WANTED TO ADD 400 NO MATTER WHAT NO MATTER WHAT.

YES, I STILL HAVE. YES. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS?

QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. KEVIN , WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE THE LIST AND THE ACREAGE? A LOT SIZE IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE AS WE CAN TELL AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT. AS FAR AS THAT REQUIRING THE LOT SIZE OR DO WE JUST GO BY OUR NORMAL SET BACKS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE? BUT I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TO JUST CHANGE THIS AND NOT PUT THESE FOLKS WHO WANT TO ADD A BATHROOM OR SOMETHING ON BECAUSE FOR THE MOST PART YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID MOST NONCONFORMING ALREADY. BUT THESE PROPERTIES THESE WHITES ARE PRETTY BIG AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO TO THREE 20, 300 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON AN ACRE AND A HALF AS IS PRETTY. I WISH THE WHOLE TOWN WAS LIKE THAT BUT I'M YOU KNOW, SO. SO I DON'T THINK THAT YOU I THINK WE SHOULD JUST CHANGE TO ALLOW THEM WHETHER THEY WANT TO BUILD A 4000 SQUARE FOOT ON ONE LEVEL OR A 4000 SQUARE FOOT ON

TWO LEVELS. >> YOU KNOW, TO ME IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

IT'S ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO OWN THOSE PROPERTIES ARE GETTING OLDER LIKE THE REST OF WE WANT TO ADMIT IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO STOREY HOUSES AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT POINT . SO INSTEAD OF MAKING GO THROUGH ALL THESE HOOPS EVERY TIME THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW ON TO DO IT ANYWAY.

SO I WOULD SAY JUST AMENDED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE HOW MANY HOW MANY HAVE WE.

>> WELL QUESTION IS THERE BUT WOULD THEY HAVE SET BACK ISSUES IF WE ALLOW LARGER FOOTPRINT? I CAN'T FULLY ANSWER THAT. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT AND LET ME GO TO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE THAT WE DO HAVE SET BACK REQUIREMENTS WHICH ARE FOR THE REAR AND THE SIDES ARE 20 FEET . SO HOWEVER THEY DECIDE TO EXPAND THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. YES.

NOW IF IF A MAY NOT TO GO TO IN-DEPTH BUT IF A STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY OVER THOSE SET BACK REQUIREMENTS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO POTENTIALLY ADDRESS THAT TO WHERE THEY ARE.

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>> YEAH. YEAH THERE'S A BILL TO ZONE RIGHT.

CORRECT. OTHER THAN THAT I THINK WE SHOULD WE SHOULD ALLOW THE

EXPANSION AT BEST IF IT MEANS THE GUIDELINES. >> OKAY.

YEAH. >> I CONCUR. WHEN WE UPDATED THE YEAR RECENTLY TO LIMIT THE FOOTPRINT THAT WAS PRIMARILY WE WERE FOCUSED ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PER SAY THE SCALE AND THIS IS ITS OWN UNIQUE RIVERFRONT DISTRICT WHICH

ACTUALLY FALLS IS RESIDENTIAL. >> SO AS FAR AS OUTSIDE THE SCALE OF WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO CORRECT AND ADJUST LAST TIME. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID AND ALL THE SETBACKS, EVERYTHING ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. I'M FINE WITH VERY GOOD.

>> WELL. YES MA'AM. YEAH.

JUST LIKE YEAH. YOU KNOW I DO AGREE WITH DAN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE FOOTPRINT WE WERE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING MORE TOWARD THE COMMERCIAL AND I EVEN LEARNED FROM THIS I DO SEE OUTSIDE OF THIS DISTRICT WHETHER IT'S ACREAGE, WHETHER IT'S THE SAME ROLE I THINK WE'VE GOT A FILM THAT MAYBE IN YOUR STUDIO UPDATE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OF NONCONFORMING THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT OF HOUSES BUILT BEFORE 2011. SO JUST NOT SO WE'RE KNEE ALL THE TIME.

LET'S BE PROACTIVE AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE AREA AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DO A SIMILAR STUDY.

TAKE AWAY THE COMMERCIAL. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION SOON DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I THINK YOU HEARD A PRETTY CONSISTENT AGREEMENT ON YOUR ON

YOUR PRESENTATION. >> VERY GOOD. SO NEXT STEPS WHAT WE'LL DO IS SINCE THIS IS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD. IT WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN ULTIMATELY BACK TO YOU WITH TWO READINGS.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING US ON A WORKSHOP. >> AND THEN I HEARD STEPHEN MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE 12 MEMBER SO WHAT YOU'RE UDI'S AT IT'S GONE THROUGH A WORKSHOP

OR WOULD YOU JUST BRING A LIST OF WHAT YOU BRING THEM TO US? >> RIGHT.

RIGHT NOW IS A PIPELINE THAT'S COMING IN NOVEMBER FOR A WORKSHOP LIKE THIS TO DISCUSS WHAT WOULD BECOME AN IN CASE THERE ANY CHANGE IF THIS GUY IS THERE ANYTHING BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL? SO NOVEMBER KIND OF ANNUALLY EVERY YEAR SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF THE TIME, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING IT WOULD BE JANUARY EARLIEST BEFORE IT WOULD TAKE A.

WELL, I'D BE JUST I WOULD SHOP WITH THIS ONE RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD GET SOME I'LL BE TAKING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT MONTH AND AUGUST.

AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. YES. AND THIS IS AN ORDINANCE SO WE COULD DO PENDING NOCTURNE AT OUR FIRST READING IF IT IF IT CAN HELP WITH SOME OF YOUR

[XI.1. Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the Town of Bluffton Redevelopment Plan as it Relates to the Tax Increment Finance (TIF) District - First Reading – Heather Colin, Assistant Town Manager]

OKAY, GREAT. >> ARE YOU ROB FOR HEATHER? IS HEATHER UP NEXT? IT'S A FORMAL LIGHT AND WE HAVE SIX. THE FIRST IS THAT ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS IT RELATES TO OUR DISTRICT FIRST READING AND WE HAVE FREE ANY GOOD EVENING. YES.

THANK YOU. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ONE OF TWO RELATED ITEMS SO I'M GOING TO PRESENT THE WORDS PART OF THE TIFF ORDINANCE CHANGES AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO BRADY HIGHER FOR THE SECOND. FURTHERMORE, THE NUMBERS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO THEY DO GO HAND-IN-HAND BUT IT IS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, TWO SEPARATE ORDINANCES, TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT IS AS PART OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU ALL APPROVED. ONE OF THE BUDGET FUNDING SOURCES WAS FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PROJECT. AND SO AS PART OF THAT TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION

SORRY THE SCREEN WAS MOVING ON ME. >> THAT'S AS PART OF THAT PROJECT WE WANTED TO ADD TO FACILITATE THAT PROJECT TO EXTEND THE TIFF AND USE THE TAP

FUNDING SOURCES TO COMPLETE THAT AS PART OF THAT. >> THE FIRST ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED IS TO AMEND THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THE TIFF.

SO ONE AD THAT PROJECT THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PROJECT AS AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT AS WELL AS EXTEND THE BOUNDARIES SO THAT'S REALLY EXACTLY WHAT THIS FIRST ITEM ADDRESSES AS PART OF THAT

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SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE FIRST SIX ITEMS THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS PRIMARILY WHAT IT IS DOING. IT'S THE EXTENSION OF THAT TIFF DISTRICT, THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS. REMOVING REFERENCE TO BE FOR COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT THERE.

AS FAR AS THEIR PARTICIPATION OR LACK OF THE EXPANSION OF THAT PROJECT LIST LIKE I JUST TALKED ABOUT LIKE I SAID AS WE WENT BACK TO THAT MAKE SURE THAT NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK WAS ELIGIBLE. THE RECALCULATION OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT WENT TO OUR DANISH DATA SHEETS AND THE COST AND MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS RECONCILED AND AS IT NEEDS TO BE AGAIN ADDING ADDING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IN TO THE OVERALL AREA.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT ENTAILS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THAT FIRST PART THE NEXT PART. SEPARATE ORDINANCE WITH THE NUMBERS.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OR I CAN PULL UP THE RECOMMENDED BOOKS. SO DO WE MAKE THE MOTION BEFORE WE FIND OUT WHAT ITEM 2 DOES? WOULD YOU WOULD SUGGEST MAKING THE MOTION ON THIS SO THIS ONE ACTUALLY DEFINES THE TIFF DISTRICT IN THE LIFE OF THE TO THE NEXT ONE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE THE FINANCE AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE HERE. SEE WE NEED TO HAVE THE TIFF DISTRICT IN PLACE BEFORE YOU CAN FINANCE THE BOND AGAINST IT.

>> I WAS JUST ASKING SHALL WE DO THE MOTIONS AFTER THE SECOND PRESENTATION OR DO I WOULD DO

IT WITH EACH? >> I RECOMMEND DOING EACH NEWGROUP.

I WOULD JUST JUST FOLLOW THOSE QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL ON THIS .

I DON'T HAVE THEM. YOU HAVE MOTION ON BUT I CAN DO IT FROM THE ARTICLE ZERO MOTION TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THE TAX TAKE HOME FINANCING DISTRICT. THIS IS A FIRST READING OF THEIR SECOND.

SECOND ANY DISCUSSION THAT IT RICHARDSON THAT MOTION HOWEVER ANY DISCUSSION.

>> ALL IN FAVOR STEP OF SAYING I OPPOSE. THANK YOU.

[XI.2. Consideration of an Ordinance Authorizing the Issuance and Sale of a Not to Exceed $10,000,000 Tax Increment Bond, Series 2022, or Such Other Appropriate Series Designation – First Reading – Frannie Heizer, Burr Forman]

>> SO PART TWO. THIS IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOT TO ACCEDE TEN MILLION DOLLARS TAXING PERMIT BOND SERIES 20 20 OR SUCH OTHER APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION FOR ANY IS OUR BOND COUNTS. COUNSEL WITH BURR FOREMAN AND THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN THIS WAY. WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LET ME JOIN YOU HERE TONIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. SUCH A BEAUTIFUL CHAMBER ALWAYS SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE NICEST PLACES TO GO TO TO A CITY OR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. SO YOU'VE MENDED YOUR SHIFT TO BRING IT UP TO DATE AND TO INCLUDE THE NEW PROJECT. AND SO THE NEXT STEP IS TO AUTHORIZE THE FINANCING FOR THAT NEW PROJECT AND THAT BE IN THE FORM OF A NOT TO EXCEED 10 MILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING BOND. THE AT THIS TIME WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THAT BOND WILL BE BID OUT AND WILL BE PURCHASED BY LOCAL BANK.

THAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN ALTHOUGH YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR BRIAN DORR, IT WOULD WORK CLOSELY WITH US TO SEE WHAT THE BEST OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE. YOU ALL WILL.

TO THE EXTENT THAT WE YOU ISSUE ONLY 10 MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR AND I THINK THAT'S THE CASE YOU HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY OTHER DEBT. THIS DEBT WILL BE WHAT WE CALL BANK QUALIFIED. THAT IS A SPECIAL CATEGORY OF DEBT ESTABLISHED BY THE IRS THAT MAKES THE PURCHASE OF THAT DEBT A LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE TO BANKS.

THEY GET A LITTLE MORE TAX BENEFIT IF THEY'RE PURCHASING DEBT THAT IS BANK QUALIFIED.

SO I THINK THAT DIFFERENCE IN POTENTIAL INTEREST RATES AS WHILE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A BANK PLACEMENT IT WILL BE BID OUT THOSE SORT OF BE COMPETITIVELY BID.

WE WON'T JUST PICK A BANK TO TO PICK OR PICK A BANK TO PLACE THE DEBT WITH THIS DEBT WILL NOT COUNT AGAINST YOUR 8 PERCENT CONSTITUTIONAL DEBT LIMIT BECAUSE IT IS TO BE REPAID ONLY FROM THE REVENUES FROM THE TIFF DISTRICT. THIS IS A LONG STANDING TIFF.

IT IS A VERY, VERY WELL PERFORMING TIFF DISTRICT SO THERE SHOULD BE NO CREDIT CONCERNS IN TERMS OF ADVANCING AN ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT.

I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I'LL HAVE. I DO AND I LET THE HORSE GET OUT THE BARN AND I SHOULD PUT MY QUESTION PRIOR BUT I'M GOING TO ASK HIM IN A DIFFERENT WAY

HE WILL BE WILL ANSWER IT. >> ALL RIGHT. SO THIS BOND IS IT'S LISTED RIGHT HERE. IT'S PRIMARILY FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE PARK CRANK AND IT'S

10 MILLION DOLLARS. >> AND SO THE TOTAL TIFF DISTRICT WAS PROJECTED TO BE 70 MILLION SOMETHING DOLLARS. SO SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD WE WOULD COME BACK AND MAYBE ISSUE

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>> EITHER THAT OR PAY AS YOU GO . THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY RADISSON ISSUE DEBT. YOU'LL DO A LOT OF PAY AS YOU GO. BREAKS MY HEART BUT PUT OUT THERE SAY YOU DO IT.

IT'S GREAT FOR THE TOWN AND GREAT GREAT FOR YOUR TAXPAYERS. SO YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY UNDER THE AMENDED JEFF PLAN TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME AND TO HAVE ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS AVAILABLE THAT WORKING WITH YOUR ADMINISTRATION YOU WOULD EITHER USE THE REVENUE AS IT'S AVAILABLE FOR PAY AS YOU GO OR THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE THERE.

>> AND THE REASON FROM MY QUESTION IS IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION IT BREAKS DOWN VARIOUS REASONS THAT THE TWO IF WHAT THE TWO WILL FIND YOU HAD THEM LISTED I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME BUT IT WAS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX AND GAVE EXAMPLES.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS SPECIFIC TO EVERYTHING BUT THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION AND THIS IS REALLY AS MUCH COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PORTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY HERE, WE HAVE SOME FUNDING THAT WE'VE JUST ALLOCATE RECENTLY BUT IT'S MINUSCULE IN SOME WAYS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PRESERVATION PRESERVATION IS EXPENSIVE AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THAT ITEM INTO THE THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER NOT TODAY NOT ON THIS ONE BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE SCALE OF THINGS THAT WE

WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE OVERALL DISTRICT. >> CERTAINLY YOU HAVE FLEXIBILITY UNDER THE STATUTE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. THE ALL OF THE TIFF PROJECTS REALLY ARE INTENDED TO GO TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND TO INCREASE THE TAX BASE AND I'D BE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF AN APPROPRIATE GIFT PROJECT AS YOU SAY. THAT'S REALLY A POLICY QUESTION FOR THE FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION. BUT THE CERTAINLY THE FLEXIBILITY IS THERE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT TO INCLUDE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TYPE PROJECTS AND THE ONE REQUIREMENT IS THAT IF PROJECTS MUST BE PUBLICLY OWNED.

SO YOU CANNOT IMPROVE PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT THE TOWN DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE PUBLIC ENTITY OWNING THE PROJECT. BUT THAT ONE REQUIREMENT OF THE

STATUTE IS THAT THE TWO PROJECTS BE PUBLICLY OWNED. >> WELL, THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS JUST A POTENTIAL SOURCE REVENUE TO DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

YES. THANK YOU. SON.

HELP ME WITH THIS, PLEASE. JUST SAID IS A WELL PERFORMING PERFORMING DISTRICT CORRECT?

ELABORATE ON THAT FOR ME PLEASE. >> I ACTUALLY WAS HERE THE BEGINNING HAS FOR YAHOO! IN 2004 FOR YOU'RE THEN MAYOR JOHNSTON HAD A VISION THAT A SHIFT DISTRICT PARTICULARLY FOR A TOWN SUCH AS BLUFFTON NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO BE LARGE ENOUGH TO INCLUDE AREAS THAT WERE GOING TO NEED INVESTMENT IN AREAS THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE INCREASES IN ASSESSED VALUE. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A TYPICAL COMBINATION IN A TOUGH DISTRICT. AT HIS URGING WE WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND WE MADE A COUPLE OF . THERE WERE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS MADE TO THE THEN STATEWIDE TIFF STATUTE. ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A LIMIT OF THE TIFF AREA CAN ONLY BE 5 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY IN THE TERRITORY OF A MUNICIPALITY AND TIPS DISTRICTS WERE LARGELY FOCUSED ON THE REHABILITATION OF BLIGHTED AREAS SUCH AS OLD WAREHOUSE DISTRICTS IN COLUMBIA. THE VISTA IN CHARLESTON CLOSE TO THE TO THE WATER.

SO THE AMENDMENT TOOK AWAY THE 5 PERCENT LIMITATION WHICH WAS IMPORTANT IN BECAUSE Y'ALL HAD JUST AN A RECENTLY ANNEXED PALMETTO BLUFF. AND OF COURSE OVERNIGHT YOU ALL BECAME ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PALMETTO BLUFF AREA. ALSO THE IDEA OF NEEDING REDEVELOPMENT FOR AREAS THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED AND SO THE STATUTE INCLUDED NOW INCLUDES THE CONCEPT OF AN AGRICULTURAL AREA THAT IS IN NEED OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THE ABSENCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND SEWER PLANNING ET CETERA.

SO THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE IN 2004. AND SO YOUR CHIEF DISTRICT DATES BACK TO 2005 AND A LARGE, VERY LARGE PART OF THE PALMETTO BLUFF WAS INCLUDED IN THE TIFF

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BUT THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE DISTRICT HAVE INCREASED DRAMATICALLY OVER THESE LAST 15 17 YEARS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE AMENDING YOURSELF AND NOT CREATING A NEW TIFF BECAUSE YOU GET TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ASSESSED VALUE.

SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT IT IS A VERY WELL PERFORMING TIFF THAT THERE IS A LOT OF REVENUE THAT'S BEEN GENERATED THAT HAS BOTH SUPPORTED THE TOWN'S GENERAL FUND AND YOUR OPERATIONS BUT ALSO A NUMBER OF VERY IMPORTANT TURF PROJECTS INCLUDING I THINK SOME ROADWAYS AND OTHER THINGS THAT Y'ALL HAVE GONE THROUGH THROUGH EITHER GET OR THROUGH OR THROUGH A PAY AS YOU GET. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE ANYTHING OVER HERE.

I JUST GOT ONE AND JUST A CLARIFICATION FOR. >> SO BASICALLY IF WE ADDED THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A LIST OF PROJECTS OR WHATEVER BORN TO THIS BY NOW IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO DO THAT. ON THIS ONE IT'S IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO DO THIS.

>> BUT BUT IF BUT IT CERTAINLY IS NOT TOO LATE TO DO IT A YEAR FROM NOW OR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW ,I THINK THAT THE PLAN IS TO TRY TO HAVE THIS DEBT APPROVED AND ISSUED THIS CALENDAR YEAR BECAUSE THE 10 MILLION DOLLAR BANK QUALIFIED LIMIT IS A CALENDAR YEAR LIMIT.

AND SO IF YOU BORROW BORROWED EVEN A FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE YOU WOULD BE OVER THE 10 MILLION LIMIT. SO THE THE BEST PLANNING SAYS LET'S BORROW THE 10 MILLION THIS YEAR AND THEN Y'ALL WOULD HAVE IF YOU WANT TO WORK

THROUGH ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR ADDITIONAL BORROWING. >> WELL WHAT WHAT MOM LEADING TO HEAR WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE DIDN'T NEED THE WHOLE 10 MILLION FOR THE LOW ON PROJECT THE MAIN PROJECT THAT WE LISTED THERE. YOU KNOW RIGHT AWAY COULD WE USE 2 MILLION OF IT OR 3 MILLION IN THERE? YOU KNOW, AN OLD TOWN OR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW, LET LET IT ALL WAIT OR PAY AS WE GO TO FINISH THAT PROJECT.

>> YOU COULD ADD DIFFERENT YOU CAN ADD ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. Y'ALL CONTROL HOW THE BOND PROCEEDS OR EXPANDED. SO YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THAT FLEXIBILITY IF IF YOU HAVE IN MIND USING PART OF THE 10 MILLION FOR OTHER PROJECTS WE PROBABLY SHOULD INCLUDE THEM IN THIS DOCUMENT EVEN IF WE WAIT A MONTH AND YOU GIVE THIS FINAL RATING IN SEPTEMBER.

SO WHATEVER TIME IS NEEDED TO FINALIZE THOSE PLANS. SO YOU'VE GOT FLEXIBILITY NOW

AND YOU WOULD HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE. >> SO JUST TO GO BACK AND TOUCH ON THAT QUESTION. LOOKING AT THE MAP, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WITH THIS AMENDMENT WAS TO ADD IN ALL OF OUR PARTS. I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.

IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE INCLUDED OUR BUILDINGS THAT WE OWN IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO WE DIDN'T. THAT'S PART OF IT. WE DIDN'T THAT SARAH RILEY HOPES WE COULD GO BACK IN AND MAKE THAT CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING.

IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT DOESN'T TRIGGER ANYTHING THAT WILL COUNSELORS JUST THE WAY I'M THINKING IT WOULD BE BETTER TO INCLUDE IT THAN IT'S ADDING IN TO PROPERTIES IF WE MAKE THE

MOTION. >> I MEAN WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF FIRST READING IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT FOR SECOND READING? I WOULD THINK IF WE'RE AT SECOND READING AND ADDED IT IT WOULD BE MORE MATERIAL. BUT AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS.

I LIKE HIS QUESTION BUT I DON'T WANT TO MESS UP THIS. AND NO, I DON'T TRY BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING TO GET FINISHED WHICH IF WE PUT ALL THIS IN RIVERSIDE, WHAT HAPPENS

IF IT WAS ONLY 8 MILLION? >> COULDN'T WE COME BACK FROM ZERO AS WE GET CLOSER TO KNOWING WHAT IT IS AND ADD A PROJECT WE CAN ALWAYS SPEED IT UP.

>> WE USE OUR ADDITIONAL TIFF REVENUE TO GO TOWARDS CRB PROJECTS NOW.

SO WE GENERATE MORE REVENUE THAN OUR DEBT PAYMENT IS. AND WE NORMALLY PUT THOSE TOWARDS PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE TIP AREA AND THAT'S IN MUSLIM PARKS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CERP OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.

LIKE YOU SAID IT DOESN'T INCLUDE OUR TWO HISTORICAL PROPERTIES WE COULD HAVE COUNCIL ENRICHED AND YOU CORRECT ME AS I SAY THAT IS IF COUNCIL WANTED TO GO AND DO FIRST READING AND MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE TO ADD OUR TWO HISTORIC DISTRICTS INTO IT,

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>> OKAY. I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP OF THE PROPERTIES THOSE TWO WE INCLUDED ALL OUR PARK PROPERTIES DOING IT INCLUDE THOSE TWO HISTORIC PROPERTIES SPECIFICALLY. SO WE SPARES ESPECIALLY SARAH RILEY WHO HAS BEEN NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND IF NOT AGAIN WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND AMEND OUR TO MAKE I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT EXIST BUT I WAS JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GOING GET IT LISTED ON THERE NOW AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING ,WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO TO FIND THE MONEY TO DO IT. WELL, I WOULD SAY JUST OUR OUR ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE PARK DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH LEFT TO PUT TOWARDS MUCH EITHER. BRIAN, TO MAKE THIS NOTION AND WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE FEEL WELL AS WELL IN ADVANCE OF NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM MAKING CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND RATINGS NEXT YEAR HERE RULES AS I'M AWARE. DON'T KNOW PREVENT THAT PRECLUDE THAT AND YOU SAY THAT IS WHAT? WHAT SECOND RATING IS FOR AND IF YOU ALL GIVE DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION IN YOUR MENTIONED GENDER PACKAGE YOU MIGHT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION SO THAT YOUR PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS LIKELY THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT SECOND RATE MISS FRESH OR ANYTHING BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN MOVING HERE THEN WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE NEW PEOPLE COME TO COUNCIL AND THEN WE'RE STREAMLINED WITH FRIENDS. QUESTION I WAS READING THAT PACKET THE VALUE THE ASSESSED VALUE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS TWO MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS 2022 ASSESSED VALUE IS 180 THREE MILLION THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO. SO WE'RE THAT I'M GUESSING YOU'RE SAY OH MY GOSH YOU'RE PERFORMING WAY PERFORMING AND WE HAVE DONE PATHWAYS DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, PARK DEVELOPMENT, NEW FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING

INITIATIVES AND LAND ACQUISITION. >> SO GOING BACK TO GROWTH WHICH IS NO ONE CAN STOP GROWTH ,WHAT CAN WE DO TO CURB IT? AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO SHOW OUR RESIDENTS WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH SHOWING IT AND I HOPE PEOPLE WILL READ THIS. ITEM BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT AND IT REALLY DOES GIVE THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE STARTED AND WHAT'S WORKING AND ALL THE PROJECTS AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES. IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO OUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.

I MEAN IT'S A REALLY GREAT SNAPSHOT. SO PLEASE I URGE EVERYONE WHO HAS QUESTIONS ON THAT TO LOOK AT THAT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME PRIDE THAT THIS TOWN IS FINANCIALLY ON A GOOD TRACK AND WE'RE DOUBLE A PLUS ON LAND AND 8 PERCENT. I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU SAID THIS DOESN'T AFFECT OUR 8 PERCENT DO. DOES THE REMAINING 60 WOULD THAT AFFECT A PERSON? SO WE DID ANOTHER 10 MILLION BONO JEFF JACKSON GRANT FINANCING DID IS NOT GENERAL OBLIGATION. YOUR FULL FAITH AND CREDIT TAX POWER IS NOT PLEDGED TO REPAY THIS DEBT. IT'S ONLY THE TIP REVENUE THAT PLAY.

SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP. JUST A THOUGHT AND WE TALKED TO STEPHEN ABOUT IT.

WHEN DO YOU SUGGEST WE GO BACK TO GET A BETTER RATING ON RATING? I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET A BETTER BOND RATING. I MEAN WHAT NEXT ON A TRIPLE TRIPLE I WOULD SAY. WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND COMPARING OURSELVES TO THE OTHER TRIPLE-A RATED IN STATED I THINK THERE'S THREE OTHERS AND WE'RE YEAH IT'S LIKE HILTON HEAD, MOUNT PLEASANT, GREENVILLE. I THINK COLUMBIA HAS THREE MIDDLE PLEASANT THREE OR FOUR. WE'VE KIND OF COMPARED STUFF TO THEM AND WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING CLOSE. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE RATIOS THERE.

THE TOWN CONTINUES TO GROW CLOSER. SO WE'RE KIND OF MONITORING

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>> SO HAVE WE DECIDED TO ADD THOSE NAMES OR LEAVE THOSE NAMES OUT FOR NOW? BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS I BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION THAT I DID WAS IS TO LOOK AT IT AS ANOTHER FUNDING MECHANISM FOR OTHER THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE PRESERVATION WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. BUT THEN IF YOU DO THAT THEN IT FREES UP MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TRYING TO FINANCE AND OBLIGATE WHICH STAFF WOULD HAVE TO WORK

THROUGH TO FIGURE OUT. >> SO ADDING AS IT POINTED OUT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED. RIGHT.

WHAT WE'LL DO WE'LL LOOK BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH ADDED IN FOR A SECOND READING AND MAKE SURE LEGALLY WE ALL FEEL THEY ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE AND LEGALLY.

AND IF SO WE'LL ADD THOSE HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THERE FOR SECOND READING AND THAT WILL BE SOMEWHAT YOU CAN VOTE ON NEXT BIG CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND THEY ARE YOUNG.

GOT ME SECOND GUESS MYSELF BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN MY REASONING. WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 10 MILLION DOLLARS SET IN THERE AND WE'RE PAYING INTEREST ON IT AND IT TAKES SIX YEARS TO DO A PROJECT. SO YOU PAY INTEREST ON SOMETHING FOR SIX YEARS INSTEAD OF UTILIZING IT WHICH IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF DOING THIS SO THAT WE CAN GET THESE PROJECTS DONE. WE'RE EXPERIENCING IT RIGHT NOW WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THE MONEY IS SITTING IN THE BANK. WE'RE PAYING JUST LAST YEAR A PRETTY LARGE AMOUNT OF INTEREST WAITING ON THE ENGINEERING DESIGNS AND STUFF TO GET THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE ALTERNATIVES AS FAR AS USING THE MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS. IF THE OPPORTUNITY CAME UP AND WE COULD WE WOULD END UP SAVING MONEY BECAUSE WE WOULD GET THE PROJECTS DONE SO MUCH QUICKER AS THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING IS GOING UP. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY.

SO THIS IS FIRST READING WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION FOR SECOND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FRANNIE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IT'S ALWAYS THINGS STANDING ZERO EMOTION TO KORANS ON AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE SELL OFF A 10 MILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREMENT BOND SERIES 20 22 OR OTHERS SUCH OTHER APPROPRIATE SERIES SPENDING MEASURES. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN

[XI.3. Consideration of Approval of an Amendment to the Master Plan for Headwaters at Bluffton Consisting of 59.2 Acres of Land Located at Hampton Parkway and Highway 278 and Zoned Buckwalter Planned Unit Development – Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RANDY. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM THREE AS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTERPLAN FOR HEADQUARTERS AT BLUFFTON CONSISTING OF FIFTY NINE POINT TWO ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT HAMPTON PARKWAY AND 278 AND ZONE BUCK VULTURE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT CENTER. THANK YOU. AS YOU STATED, THIS IS FOR A MASTERPLAN AMENDMENT REFERRED TO AS HEADWATERS AT BLUFFTON. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND OR SIMILAR BACKGROUND ABOUT PROJECT LOCATION SO THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE ALONG A 40 MILE AN ISLAND ROAD IN HAMPTON PARKWAY.

THIS IS A EXISTING MASTERPLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR A HARRIS TEETER SHOPPING CENTER. NEVER MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER.

YOU GUYS WILL ALSO KNOW THAT UP IN THE TOP CORNER WAS THE EXISTING HOUSING MAKES SALES OFFICE WHICH THE TOWN USED FOR 16 MONTHS WHILE WE'RE RENOVATING AND CONSTRUCTING THIS BUILDING SO WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA AS WELL.

AGAIN, JUST FROM A CONTACT STANDPOINT, THIS IS PROJECT LOCATION.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING CONSTRUCTION OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT 270 MULTIFAMILY UNITS PHASING IN. ALSO INCLUDES SEVERAL OUTER PARCELS THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THE REALIGNMENT AND THE PARKWAY. APPROXIMATELY FIFTY NINE ACRES AND I PUT THIS IN HERE. PART OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN FOR BUCKYBALLS OR TRACK INCLUDED THAT THE THE HAMPTON PARKWAY WAS REQUIRED TO BE REALIGNED AND NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO I'LL GO UNTIL A BIT MORE INFORMATION BUT JUST KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE. THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER AND THEN JUST MOST RECENTLY IN MAY THIS WENT IN

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THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE PARKWAY. THIS ONE WAS FOR A SECOND DUMPSTER LOCATION TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE MULTI-FAMILY TO UPDATE THE TRAFFIC INTO IMPACT ANALYSIS. SHALL WE PROVIDE A PART OF SUBMITTING FOR PHASES 2 AND 3 AND THEN TO ADD A FENCE ALONG THE BUFFER OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT? SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THIS IS THE BACKWATER CONCEPT PLAN AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE AREA IN RED THAT IS THE HEADWATERS DEVELOPMENT ISLAND WEST IS TO THE EAST. YOU HAVE PROPERTY TO THE WEST THAT IS OWNED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY FREE MARKET SYSTEM AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SMALLER LINE TO THE EAST, THE BLUE LINE IS THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT OF THE HAMPTON PARKWAY AND THEN THE NEW ALIGNMENT OR FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF HAMPTON PARKWAY WHICH HAS THE FULL ACCESS TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. THIS IS THE EXISTING MASTERPLAN.

THIS IS THE HARRIS TEETER WITH VARIOUS OUT PARCELS OF RESTAURANTS, OFFICES, MORE RETAIL COMPONENTS NOT NECESSARILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED MASTERPLAN. SO I'VE ALIGNED IT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER BUT YOU SEE THAT US TWO SEVENTY EIGHT FORTY NINE ISLAND ROAD IS TO THE RIGHT.

SO THE NORTH ARROW YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH I WAS POINTING TO THE SIDE.

SO JUST FROM FROM A CONTEXT TO GIVE YOU AN IN THE HAMPTON PARKWAY WHICH IS ON THE THE THE TOP PORTION OF THIS IMAGE DOES RUN NORTH SOUTH SO YOU CAN SEE THE ALIGNMENT OF THE FEATURE HAMPTON PARKWAY. THE THE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX IT SHOULD BE NOTED AND IT WAS IT WAS COMMUNICATED VERY EARLY ON IN THIS PLAN THAT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THIS PROPERTY AND STAFF WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED THIS PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND DID AN ANALYSIS OF THOSE TREES OF WHAT WHAT TREES. WHILE ON PAPER THEY MIGHT LOOK REALLY BIG.

SOME OF THEM THEY WEREN'T. THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY THE BEST OF TREES BUT WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE SURE THAT SOME OF THOSE DARKER LARGER GREEN BUBBLES ARE THESE SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT WE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE KEPT INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN SO THAT THE INITIAL DESIGN DID NOT LOOK LIKE THIS AND THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO WORK AROUND A LOT OF THESE TREES AND BE ABLE TO SAVE THEM. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WE WORKED VERY HARD TO SAVE A LOT OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT ARE ON THAT SITE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HAMPTON PARKWAY IS RUNNING.

UNFORTUNATELY IT'S UP HERE. >> LET'S SEE IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

OH, THERE WE GO. SO. SO HERE'S THE CURRENT TRAFFIC LIGHT IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE EXISTING CELL SALES OFFICE THAT WE USE.

SO THE APP WILL BE USING AN ENTRANCE LOCATED HERE. THAT'S ALL.

AND THIS IS THE TOYOTA ENTRANCE THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. AND THEN THEIR INITIAL ENTRANCE ARE THERE SECONDARY INTEREST WAS LOCATED BACK HERE. SO PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ROADWAY WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THIS THIS PHASE THE PHASE OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO THIS MIGHT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. SO PHASE 1 IS THE IMPORTANT COMPLEX LOCATED HERE.

PHASE 2 IS COMMERCIAL AND THEN A THIRD PHASE OF COMMERCIAL RIGHT HERE.

I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE JUST THAT ALIGNMENT. YOU CAN SEE THE ALIGNMENT OF THE PARKWAY AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IS FROM THE EXISTING PARKWAY IT WOULD BE REALIGNED TO MAKE A FLUID MOVEMENT THROUGH INTO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD CREATE A T JUNCTION HERE WITH AN EXISTING PORTION OF THE PARKWAY.

SO YOU'D STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT EXISTING PORTION OF PARKWAY BUT THE THROUGH MOVEMENT IS DOWN TO THE SOUTH. HERE IS BUCK WALTER. SHE'S IN BLUFFTON PARKWAY BLUFFTON PARKWAY. SO THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTION FROM TRAFFIC LIGHT TO TRAFFIC LIKE THERE ARE VARIOUS REVIEW CRITERIA THAT ARE USED IN THE

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I DID HIGHLIGHT TWO OF THEM THAT DURING THEIR INITIAL SUBMIT MIDDLE THEY WERE NOT CONSISTENT WITH. HOWEVER WITH THE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN SPEAK ON THIS.

THEY ARE WILLING TO CONSTRUCT THE ENTIRE PARKWAY WITH THAT PHASE OF THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS AND I'LL HAVE IT UP HERE IN A SECOND BY MEETING THAT CONDITION. THESE TWO CRITERIA ARE THEY ARE NOW MEETING THOSE CRITERIA. SO YOUR ACTIONS THIS EVENING ARE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST.

AND AGAIN FROM A REVIEW PROCESS YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS ONE FRONT A PLANNING COMMISSION WITH PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION AND IS IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A MAJORITY THIS EVENING ONE VOTE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THEN THE APPLICANT NATHAN ALONG WITH THOMAS AND HUDSON IS HERE AND CAN SPEAK IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE QUESTIONS I FOUND THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE THAT WERE SUGGESTED FOR THEIR AMENDMENT UPDATE HAVE THOSE ITEMS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED OR IS THAT NECESSARY BEFORE THEY

GET FINAL APPROVAL LIKE THE TRAFFIC STUDY? >> SO AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT HERE

HERE. >> IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD THIS WITH WITH AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS I I WROTE THE CONDITIONS IN SUCH A WAY THAT AT TIME THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THEY WOULD MOVE FORWARD. SO REFER TO THE CAPACITY STUDY FOR THE FOR THE DUMPSTER AT THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THEY WOULD BE WORKING ON THAT AND AND ACTUALLY IN BETWEEN GETTING THE PACKETS OUT TO TWO TOWN COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A STUDY. SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY DONE SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPING PLAN WE'LL LOOK TO UPDATE IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, T.J. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UPDATED TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE WAS DISCUSSED. THERE WAS AN APPLICANT EXCUSE RESIDENT THAT HAD CONCERN ABOUT THAT OBVIOUSLY AS THAT OR THE AS THAT COMMERCIAL PORTION OF IT COMES ONLINE HERE.

THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD BE REQUIRING AT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY WOULD INSTALL THAT FENCE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS ENTIRE AREA SOUTH OF THE PARKWAY IS NOT BEING DEVELOPED.

SO THERE'S NO PUTTING POINT OF PUTTING A FENCE TO IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AT THIS TIME.

BUT AS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAPPEN AND THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT A FENCE WOULD THEN BE INSTALLED AND THEN THE PARKWAY. SO THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE THE SIZE OF THAT PARKWAY STAFF'S INTERPRETATION AND ALWAYS IS THAT IT'S A TWO TO LANE TWO LANE PARKWAY AND THAT IT WOULD THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT IT TO MEET THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A SMALL AREA HERE WHERE IT WIDENS OUT FOR FOR THE TRAVEL LANES AT THE INTERSECTION. BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT DOES TAPER OFF INTO THAT TWO

LANE DESIGN AND IF POSSIBLE. >> HAVING FUN. I DON'T SEE IN OUR PACKET I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED IT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE WHAT WAS THE DETERMINATION WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED.

>> SO THE INITIAL THE INITIAL CONCERN WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS WHAT IMPACTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN ON. LET ME GET TO THE PHASING HERE .

SO WITH THIS PHASING MAP, WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY AS EACH ONE OF THESE COMMERCIAL WERE COMING ONLINE SINCE THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING THE ENTIRE ROAD AT THE VERY BEGINNING? IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT IN THE SENSE OF THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT UPDATING THAT PORTION OF IT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS WAS BASED ON EVERY TIME YOU HAD THAT NEXT PHASE YOU NEEDED TO PROVIDE SOME MORE INFORMATION. BUT AS THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING THE ENTIRE THING AT ONE POINT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY THEY DON'T NEED TO DO THAT NOW.

THANK YOU. ARE YOU MEETING RIGHT NOW? YEAH.

>> ON THAT SAME NOTE, THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT IS THE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THEIR FORD TO ALLEN WEST FOLKS WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THERE BECAUSE YOU RIGHT NOW YOU GET A BREAK WHEN IT STOPS TRAFFIC STOPS ON TO 78 AND WITH THE ADDED ADDED TRAFFIC COMING THERE, IT'S GOING TO LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE I'LL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. WELL, YES, MAYOR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK STAFF TOOK

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HERE. >> SO THEY INSISTED THAT THE ROAD BE BUILT.

IS THAT CORRECT? KEVIN ? YES, SIR.

SO THAT WAS A VERY WISE DECISION ON COUNT TOWN STAFF'S BEHALF.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK THE ONE QUESTION WHICH IS MINOR BUT REGARDING THE FENCE.

WHAT KIND OF FENCE? WHAT WHAT IS IT? WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE? WILL IT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ASKED ABOUT THE FENCE?

>> SO OBVIOUSLY FENCE HAS BEEN DESIGNED AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW, WE COULD INCLUDE IN YOUR CONDITION YOU LIKE THAT THE SIZE AND OPAQUENESS MEANING THAT IT COULD BE A IT COULD BE A WOODEN FENCE THAT'S SIX FEET TALL. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER AND LET ME GO TO THE PLAN. HERE'S ME. SO THERE IS A 50 FOOT BUFFER THAT RUNS ALONG THE REAR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO SINCE THIS IS ON THE EDGE OF THE BUCK, WALTER PD THERE IS A REQUIRED 50 FOOT BUFFER SO ANY FENCE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED WOULD. SO YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY LINE THEN YOU HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE FENCE WITH THE WELL OFF THE FENCE.

>> THE FENCE WOULD BE BE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE 50 FOOT BUFFER AND THEN THE RESIDENTS. SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE PUTTING THE VEGETATION FOR THE RESIDENTS FIRST AND THEN THE FENCE. SO THAT WAY THEY GET THE

BENEFIT ALL THE VEGETATION PLUS THE FENCE. >> THE OTHER OPTION YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS IF YOU WERE TO PUT A FENCE ON THE PROPERTY LINE THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THAT 50 FOOT BUFFER YOU WANT THAT VEGETATION FIRST, THEN THE

FENCE AND THEN DEVELOPMENT. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

I JUST AGAIN, I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.

SO WHAT ONE KIND OF FENCE MIGHT LOOK LIKE VERSUS SOMEBODY MIGHT BE JUST STAFF TAKES THE INITIATIVE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS A DECENT FIT FENCE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT CAME UP EARLIER.

>> YEAH. YOU KNOW, REALISTIC YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN A SIX AND EIGHT FOOT FENCE THAT HAS MORE OF A EARTH TONE. YOU KNOW, PROBABLY YES.

>> PROBABLY 1 1/2 PERCENT PRIVACY. YEAH.

NOT CHAIN LINK FENCE. >> KEVIN . >> I'M STILL.

WITH JUST SEEING A TRAFFIC STUDY IS GOING TO BE DONE FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK TRAFFIC STUDIES SHOULD BE DONE FOR PROJECT DOES IN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT NEXT DOOR. COMMUNITY AND ALWAYS TO BE KNOW I THINK THIS COUNCIL WORK

WORKSHOPS SOMETIME. >> BUT WE WE CAN'T JUST DO A TRAFFIC STUDY NOW JUST FOR ONE PROJECT DESK THAT IS NOW WORKING IS REALLY NOW WORKING. IF WE JUST DO IT FOR ONE PROJECT EVERYTHING WILL GET APPROVED BUT THEN WE WILL STILL NO CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN NORTH AND SOUTH EAST AND WEST. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HAVE THEM AT DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOOK TO UPDATE THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE STREET JUST TO SEE IF THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ANY IMPACT ON ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE PARKWAY CONSTRUCTION OBVIOUSLY WITH 278 THE SIZE THAT IT IS. I DON'T FORESEE ANY FUTURE ADDITIONS OF TRAVEL LANES.

THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED A LEFT TURN MOVEMENT INTO THE PEPPER HALL DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S EXISTING LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE PARKWAY. THERE'S A RIGHT TURN LANE ALREADY INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEY WILL NOT THEY DO NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ONTO 278.

SO ALL YOU SEE ALL OF THEIR ACCESS IS TAKEN FROM THE HAMPTON PARKWAY AND THEN FUNNELS INTO 278 AND JUST JUST AS A REMINDER THAT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS DO COKE BACK IN FRONT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO YOU KNOW, THERE WE'LL BE REVIEWING THIS FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SIDE AS WELL AS IT IS IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR

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WHEN I FIRST READ THIS I WENT RIGHT TO PALMETTO BLUFF. SO WE'RE USING SIMILAR NAMES SIMILAR COMMUNITIES. SO I DON'T I JUST HATE FOR AN AMBULANCE TO BE CALLED TO GO TO HEADQUARTERS AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN A BLOCK HEADWATERS.

I DON'T WE'VE EVER THOUGHT THROUGH THAT. I HOPE NO NAMES, NO STREET NAMES AFTER THAT. IT'S JUST MORE OF A THE TREE COUNT.

THE ORDINANCE WE PASSED ABOUT THE BUFFER AND NOT COUNTING THE TREES IN THE BUFFER IS THIS PART THAT NEW ORDINANCE RESOLUTION WHATEVER WE DID A COUNT OF .

YES. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. I HEARD RESIDENTS SAY I LIKE YOUR REALIGNMENT OF THE PARKWAY. NOW WE HAVE HAMPTON PARKWAY, WESTERN HAMPTON PARKWAY EAST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE OLD HAMPTON PARKWAY OR IS IT STILL CALLED HAMPTON PARKWAY AND IT IS STILL GOING TO STAY THERE AND IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT THE ROAD WILL STAY THERE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO AT THIS MOMENT I'M NOT SURE BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK TO A PROBABLY RE RENAME IT OR MAYBE IT IT'S AN EXTENSION OR

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> WELL WE'LL FIGURE OUT IF IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO MAKE A DETERMINATION HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT SINCE WE ARE AND WHETHER WE WANT WE CAN CLOSE IT OFF AND JUST MAKE IT EXITING AND MAKE ACCESS FOR THE COUNTY SHOULD THEY EVER DEVELOP THEIR

PARK. >> WE COULD LOOK AT RENAMING AND WE DO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS A BECAUSE WE OWN THAT BUT WE DON'T VOTE ON HAMPTON PARKWAY IN THIS DEVELOP RISKS THAT WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WELL ON THIS. WE WILL WE WILL OWN YES MA'AM. ALL OF HAMPTON PARDON?

>> YES. THAT'S PART OF THE FIFTH THE FIFTH AGREEMENT.

YES, THE FIFTH AGREEMENT. WHAT THEY THEY CONSTRUCT IT AND WE INSPECT IT AND THEN WE MAINTAIN AND WE WILL ASSUME OWNERSHIP. YES, THAT WAS PART OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE BACKWATER PIECE IT BECOMES THE NEW HAMPTON.

YES, I. >> YES. SO THE QUESTION THE GOOD REASON I ASKED. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME BACK TO US BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

WE CAN HEAR OUR RESIDENTS WHAT WATCH IT, MONITOR IT NOT HAVE TO WORRY.

YOU GO THROUGH THE STATE OR THE COUNTY WE CAN PUT SPEED BUMPS ON IT IF WE WANT TO.

WE HAVE TOTAL CONTROL ON WATCHING AND FIGURE OUT STOCKS ON THE GROUND.

ANYTHING? YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IN AN ORIGINAL AND I DO WORRY ABOUT ALLEN WEST WHICH ARE VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS TO OUR TOWN. THAT LIGHT WAS PUT THERE TO ALLEVIATE ACCIDENTS OFFERED TO 78 OF THEIR ORIGINAL ENTRANCE AND THAT'S USED A LOT. I WOULD SAY 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME TO GET THAT RED LIGHT. SO THERE ARE. THAT IS GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC THAT MAYBE YOU NEED TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON AND WATCH AND COUNT AND SEE HOW MANY

PEOPLE USE THAT EVERY DAY. >> KNOW I USE THAT TIME AND DEVELOP THE PLAN.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS INTERSECTION THIS MOVEMENT RIGHT HERE IS ADDRESSED.

WE'LL ALSO LOOK TO BE FOR COUNTY TO ASSIST WITH THAT AS WELL.

BEN SO THE TRAFFIC THE CONNECTOR TO HAMPTON PARKWAY, THE PROPER SEQUENCE THERE'S A

PRIVACY FENCE AND I HEARD A COMMENT. >> AND WHY NOT? IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MORE YOU SAY SOUTHERN BUT CAN IT ALSO GO TO THE EASTERN AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PLACE? JUST TO BUFFER THE GOLF COURSE FROM THAT 50 BUFFER CANNOT GO SOUTH AND UP TO WHERE THE GOLF COURSES. I THINK WE JUST HAD IT SOUTH BUT IS IT A YES? LG THE INTENT WAS FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THIS PORTION HERE AND IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND HERE I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE AERIAL SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD RESIDENTS FROM AN APPROXIMATE STANDPOINT LOCATED HERE.

>> THIS IS THE DRIVING RAIN PORTION HERE. SO WITH THAT 50 THERE'S AN A 50 FOOT BUFFER. AND WHAT WE COULD DO IS LOOK TO PROVIDE EITHER FENCE OR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A INCREASED THAT OPAQUENESS.

SO THAT WAY THAT'LL HELP. I'M ALWAYS A PROPONENT OF NATURAL VEGETATIVE BUFFER.

SO I THINK THAT THE DRIVING RANGE AT THAT LOCATION, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD COULD LOOK TO ADD TO THAT BUFFER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OPAQUE NOT HITTING A CAR EITHER RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE WELL PROTECTED NOT FOR A FRUSTRATION ALWAYS HAVE WHEN WE BUT COUNTY PROPERTY YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DEVELOP ALLEN WEST AND THE YOUNGERS HERE COULD BE THE HOMEOWNERS AS LONG AS THAT'S BEEN THERE BUT THEY BUT IT RIGHT UP TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE

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>> SO I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU TOLD DAN LOOKING DOWN THE TREES IN THE BUFFER.

NOT GOING TO BE NOT IN ANY KIND OF TREE COUNT. THEY GOT TO THEY RIGHT.

THEN YOU GET TO THE TOWN PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHERE THE FENCE IS GOING ENDING COMMERCIAL. THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD YOU TELL.

ARE THE OTHER WAY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. FENCE 50 PUT BUFFER RIGHT.

ALLEN WEST IS HOW I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION SO ALLEN WEST WILL NEVER SEE THE FENCE BUT THEY WILL KEEP THAT 50 FOOT BUFFER IF IT GROWS WILD OR WHATEVER.

YES, THAT'S FANTASTIC. GOT IT. ONE LAST THING AND I JUST KNOW WE DID IT VILLAGE OVER DEER AND I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE FOOT WITH ANOTHER PROJECT THE COMMERCIAL AS THEY COME FORWARD. THEY'RE GONNA PLAY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE DESIGNATIONS OF USE. I MEAN I KNOW WE DIDN'T WHEN WE DID VILLAGE OF RED DEER AND IT WAS KIND OF COMMERCIAL ABC. I'VE JUST NOTICED OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO USES CHANGE WITH TIMES AND THINGS CAN BE INVENTED FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THAT MAY NOT HAVE A USE. ARE WE GOING TO KEEP IT VERY GENERIC BUT MAKE SURE THEY HAVE

THE PARKING FOR WHATEVER COMMERCIAL FITS? >> YES, MA'AM.

SO THIS IS UNDER THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION. I'M GOING TO SAY THANK YOUR CENTER. I MEAN OK, AND THAT'LL ALL BE REVIEWED BECAUSE IT'S JUST IT'S UN PROGRAMED AT THIS POINT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE ANYTHING READY FOR BUT I REMEMBER FROM MY PAST I THINK THE CALLER HAD ANYTHING ELSE. GOOD.

OK. THAT'S THE FULL MUSH YOU WANT TO STICK THE ITEMS WHICH IS FINE I GUESS. YES. AND I MEAN IT'S ON THE BOARD.

I DON'T IF YOU WANT TO READ IT VERBATIM BUT IT IS THERE AND. AND I WOULD REALLY TAKE FRED'S COMMENTS TO HEART IF NOT FOR THIS ONE. FOR OTHERS I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE LOOKED AT PLANS WE ACTUALLY HAD AROUND IT LIKE 500 FEET OR SOMETHING.

WHAT ELSE IS THERE NO HOPE? PLANNING COMMISSION. WHEN THEY FIRST SEE IT REALIZES WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO REALLY TAKE THAT TO HEART HOW NOT JUST THIS BUT HOW DOES GRAVE'S PROPERTY HOW DOES THE TRAFFIC AT ALLEN WEST AFFECT THIS CAUSE? YES. BOB.

RIGHT. IT'S READY TO GO BUT JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY TO.

>> I AGREE. I MADE A NOTE ABOUT THAT. WE WILL LOOK AT THAT USUALLY WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE DONE THEY HAVE TO GO TO CERTAIN POINTS AT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS WE CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE OUTLINE AND WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED TO YOUR MAXIMUM

. >> NOW HAVING A CHANCE TO MAKE YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING FOR

A MINUTE PLEASE. >> THERE WAS NO THE AERIAL ONE THAT WAS IN AERIAL RIGHT THERE.

SO TO THE LEFT WHERE THE ROAD THE PARKWAY IS NOW. YES.

RIGHT. STOP RIGHT THERE. SO THAT WE COME UP A LITTLE BIT. NATALIE AND RYAN IN THEIR IS AT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OWNED BY

BEAUFORT COUNTY SHOULD NOT BE TOO CLOSE TO THE RIVER. >> I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THEIR LONG TERM PLAN IS THAT DESIGNATED AS FUTURE PARK LAND. YES.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE PIECE JUST BELOW THE TRANSMISSION LINE YOU FOR

COUNTY. >> OK. >> AND THEY OWN EVERYTHING TO THE LEFT. YES. EVEN THE REASON I ASK THAT

QUESTION FOR THE RIDE. >> WE ON THE RIGHT. BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON THE ROAD WE WOULD NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS INTO THEIR SCHEME. HOPEFULLY SOME MORE GREEN SPACE BUT WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE WE WOULD EVER COME TO CONCLUSION. SO OK.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. >> SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT SECOND ROAD BEING THERE WOULD JUST ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FROM GOD ON THE OTHER END.

I MEAN IF THERE IS A RIGHT TURN OFF OF 278. IF SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT OR TWO BLUFFTON PARKWAY, HAMPTON LAKES OR WHEREVER THEY WERE GOING, THEY COULD JUST USE THAT. YEAH. TO ME.

I WOULD SAY LEAVE IT. >> I THINK THE GOOD THING IS WE CAN WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OTHER ENTITIES TELLING US WE CAN'T DO IT.

THAT'S THE BRIGHT LOOK AT THIS IN THIS WORLD. OK.

ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OR AMENDMENT TO THE MASTERPLAN FOR HEADQUARTERS AT BLUFFTON CONSISTING OF FIFTY NINE POINT TWO ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT HAMPTON PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY 278 IN SOME BACKWATER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE MASTERPLAN DOCUMENTS APPLICANT GATE THE

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YES MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY. GREAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I OPPOSE THAT UNANIMOUS STANKY, RIGHT?

[XI.4. Consideration of a Resolution Requesting South Carolina Department of Transportation Reduce Speed Limits of State-Owned Roads Within the Historic District and Surrounding Area – Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects & Watershed Resilience]

GOOD. WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED AT THAT. SO I AM THE ONLY THING BETWEEN YOU AND THE THE.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT FACT. >> YOU ARE I. YOU GOT ME TO THE END TO THE BITTER END AT THIS POINT. AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC WITH KEVIN AND THIS MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT OF COURSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD LOUDLY AND CLEARLY FROM OUR CITIZENS COUNCIL I HAVE HEARD IT AS WELL AS MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN AND PATHWAY SAFETY. SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WE'VE HAD THESE REQUESTS I HAVE WE DISCUSSED IT DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING EARLIER THIS YEAR.

Y'ALL TOLD US THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHEND SENSIBLY AT THIS ISSUE AND BROADEN THE SCOPE OF PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY SAFETY BEYOND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND SO THAT HAS BECOME AN INITIATIVE FOR US AS A PATHWAY AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF EXPOSITION UP HERE ON THESE SLIDES FOR BACKGROUND AND MOSTLY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT. THEY CAN READ THROUGH THIS.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS TO YOU BUT WHAT WE ARE USING IS A FRAMEWORK OBVIOUSLY ARE THE INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTER ENGINEERS GUIDELINES ON TRAFFIC CALMING AS WELL AS DEO TS TRAFFIC CALMING GUIDELINES BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN ALL OF OUR STREETS AS WE JUST DISCUSSED THE PROS AND BENEFITS OF THAT WITH HAMPTON PARKWAY.

WE'RE SEEING THAT WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AS WELL. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO WE MUST DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH JYOTI ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS WE HAVE FOR TRAFFIC CALMING IS TO PARTNER WITH JYOTI AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS PARTICULARLY GOOD QUOTE TO BRING IT OUT BECAUSE DOJ DOES SAY A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE VARIOUS ENTITIES SUCH AS DOJ T AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT ARE AFFECTED SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED TO ADDRESS THESE VARIOUS COMPONENTS IN SUCH A PARTNERSHIP WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROCESS WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I'M IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS TO ASK FOR A RESOLUTION TO FORMALIZE THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH DOJ T SO THAT WE CAN START MOVING FORWARD COORDINATING THESE EFFORTS. WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN TRAFFIC COMING POLICY THAT DISCUSSES SPEED LIMITS IN LINE WITH OUR MUNI CODE SECTION SPEED LIMIT VARIATION IN SIGN NOTICE AND SO ANY PARTICULAR TRAFFIC CALMING THAT WOULD INVOLVE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR OWN MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES AS WELL AS AGAIN THAT STATE THAT STATE STATUTE AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS TO GET STICKY BECAUSE WE ARE DEALING WITH JYOTI WE ARE DEALING WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT ABIDE STATEWIDE SOUTH CAROLINA UNIFORM ACT REGULATING TRAFFIC ON HIGHWAYS WHICH LIMITS OUR ABILITY AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT ON ANY STATE OWNED ROAD THAT IS CONSIDERED AS MINOR COLLECTOR AND RESIDENTIAL BELOW 35 MILES PER HOUR UNLESS IT'S IN AN URBAN DISTRICT AND THEN THEY GO ON TO CONTINUE TO EXPLAIN THAT AN URBAN DISTRICT IS A STREET THAT HAS ANY STRUCTURES OR BUSINESSES THAT ARE LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET APART FOR A CONTINUOUS LENGTH OF LONGER THAN A QUARTER MILE

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AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS AS TO WELL WHAT WHAT CAN BE INCLUDED TYPICALLY DOJ HE WILL NOT LET YOU REDUCE OR EVEN REQUEST TO REDUCE SOME SPEED LIMITS BEYOND A CERTAIN LEVEL ON THESE MAJOR FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION ROADS WHICH ARE THE PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL THE MINOR ARTERIAL AND MAJOR COLLECTORS AS THAT MAY IMPACT THEIR PERFORMANCE. SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT ROADS THAT THE OKATIE ROADS THAT HAVE THESE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION INCLUDE BLUFFTON ROAD AND MAY RIVER ROAD AS WELL AS BUCKEYE ISLAND AND SIMMONS BUILD ROADS AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PIECE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND SURROUNDING AREA FOR SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T AGAIN ESTABLISHING A PARTNERSHIP WITH JYOTI BEGIN TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ALONG THESE ROADS.

IT'S JUST THE SPEED LIMITS PROBABLY GOING TO BE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO PUSH THROUGH WITH DOTY ON THOSE PARTICULAR ROADS BECAUSE OF THEIR CLASSIFICATIONS.

SO WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING AND MOVING FORWARD AND PROPOSING TO DO DOTY IS ON THESE DOTY OWNED ROADS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND JUST BEYOND IT WORKING WITH US TO GO THROUGH OUR ESTABLISHED PROCESS AT WHICH IN OUR TRAFFIC COMING POLICY AS WELL AS IN OUR ORDINANCE AS WELL AS IN STATE GUIDELINES TO DO AN ENGINEERING STUDY ON EACH AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ON EACH OF THESE SECTIONS OF ROAD AS WELL AS TOWN OWNED ROADS TOO.

SO SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY PICKING UP IT WOULD HELP IF I PUSHED THE RIGHT THING. HERE WE GO. THERE WE GO.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMING ALONG AND GETTING JASON AND ABEL AND THEN WHEN I SAY GETTING I DON'T MEAN OBTAINING THEM AND TAKING THEM I MEAN GETTING CONCURRENCE WITH CO2 TO WORK WITH US ON JASON ENABLE PORTIONS OF WHISPERING PINE PIN A RED CEDAR AS WELL AS THESE ARE STILL JYOTI OWNED SOUTH OF MAY RIVER ROAD WHICH ARE THE NORTH SECTION OF WALL STREET DOWN TO BRIDGE STREET AND BRIDGE STREET COMING FROM BURNT CHURCH ALL THE WAY OVER TO THOMAS HAYWARD AND THEN COMING UP TO COMING UP TO SCHULTZ AND GOATEE THERE'S A SMALL SECTION OF 8TH AVENUE DOTY THAT WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISING TO ME. HILDEBRAND AND THEN COMING ALL THE WAY UP GOATEE IS WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT FOR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION ON THE BRIDGE WE ARE. WHY DID YOU HAVE THAT THEME?

I THOUGHT WE VOTED TO TAKE THAT. >> WE DID AND WE DON'T.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN COMPLETED BY DUTY YET OR NOT. AND I THINK YOU'VE GOT COUNTING THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED IT FOR A FOURTH. BUT SHE CALLED MORE.

OH, THAT'S MY DAD . YOU LOST ME. THAT'S MY BAD.

IT SHOULD BE WORTH STRAIGHT. YES. NOT COME IN.

OBVIOUSLY WE CAN DO THAT ON DUTY TAKES A WHILE BEFORE THEY COMPLETE THE TURNOVER MAY NOT BUT IT IS COMING. YOU MENTIONED THAT EVEN EVEN THOUGH WE ARE ON THE ROAD YOU HAVE TOLD ME ONE TIME WE START TO GO TO LOWER THE SPEED. YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONES WE'RE GONNA ASK THEM TO PARTNER WITH US ON AS WE LOOK TO OURS AS CREATING THIS URBAN CORE THAT WE CAN THEN SAY CAN WE REDUCE THE SPEED LIMITS WITHIN THESE AREAS BECAUSE THAT'S RICHARDSON LIKES TO RAIN ON OUR PARADE WHEN HE DOES IS LEGAL RESEARCH SO LONG AS IS A PUBLIC ROAD HE REALLY CONTROLS WHETHER WE CAN GO BELOW A CERTAIN SPEED LIMIT SO HE'LL HAVE A MANDATE FROM THAT.

YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITH WHAT YOU CAN DO ON YOUR ON YOUR ROADS BUT IT'S DEPENDENT UPON WHAT CLASSIFICATION AND WHAT ARE THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT OLD TALENT DISTRICT SIZE AND LENGTH OF YOUR ROADS. THE DOJ REGULATIONS.

USUALLY THEY DEFINE ROADS OFTEN BY THEIR LEGS. AND SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE RICHARD STREET THOMAS A WORD WHEREAS IT MIGHT MEET ALL THE COMPONENTS THEY DON'T ADD THE

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LIKE I SAID, HE LIKES TO TRY TO DO THINGS EASY SOMETIMES HE MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT.

AND THEN YOU'RE IS ALSO IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR LEGAL HERE.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS GOING AHEAD AND FORMALIZING THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH DST THROUGH A RESOLUTION ASKING THEM TO WORK WITH US. REALLY THIS IS JUST A RESULT OF OUR EXPERIENCE WHEN WE ASKED FOR A REDUCED SPEED LIMIT ON BOUNDARY STREET AND SAW WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH D.A. ON THAT AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING TYPE OF EXPERIENCE AND HOPING GETTING PROACTIVE WILL HELP EXPEDITE THAT AND NOT TAKEN LITERALLY AN ACT OF THE LEGISLATURE TO HELP US GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE OUR APPROPRIATE ANALYSIS THESE SUBMIT THOSE AND DEVELOP AT A SUGGESTION ON SPEED LIMIT REDUCTIONS TO THE DATA SUPPORTED COMING OUT OF THESE ANALYSIS AND THEN MOVE THROUGH THE TYPICAL DOJ T PROCESS FOR GOING AHEAD WITH APPROVAL. THERE WOULD BE A SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT AS WELL. AND THEN OF COURSE WE WOULD WORK THROUGH PUBLICIZING AND THEN ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE REALLY DO WANT TO WORK WITH DOJ T ON THIS HAVING HODGEPODGE SPEED LIMITS MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR ENFORCEMENT FOR OUR FOLKS. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR CITIZENS TO KNOW WHAT SPEED LIMIT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A BANK. SO CONSISTENCY IS DEFINITELY KEY. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT WE PARTNER WITH DFT TO REDUCE THESE SPEED LIMITS ON CERTAIN STATE OWNED ROADS AND AT THESE OF COURSE INCLUDE WHAT ARE LISTED THERE FOR INCLUDE INCLUSION.

I HAVE NEXT STEPS IF YOU GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION WE'LL GO AHEAD, MAKE THE REQUEST IMMEDIATELY WE'LL START INITIATING THESE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND SPEED SPEED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE AND SUBMIT THAT TO AN APPLICATION FOR DOJ.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE AND BRING THAT FOR FORWARD FOR TWO

READINGS AS WELL. >> SO I SAW THE BREAKDOWN THERE OF ROADS THAT ARE OUR MAJOR COLLECTORS AND ONES THAT ARE AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING AFTER THE ONES THAT CURRENTLY

IDENTIFIED IF NOT MAJOR COLLECTORS. >> I WOULD THOUGH LIKE FOR US TO HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION IN A FIGHT WITH THE REALTY TO DEPARTMENT ONE THOSE MAJOR COLLECT ON OUR ROADS SPECIFICALLY SIMMONS ON BULK ALIMI BECAUSE THE SPEED LIMITS THERE ARE 50 THEM IS FINE BUT THE WAY THAT PEOPLE SPEED ON THOSE ROADS IS INSANE AND AS WE ARE IN AN INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT EVERYONE IS NOW USING THOSE ROADS AS A WAY TO GET OFF 270 AND TAKE ALTERNATE ROUTES. IT'S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE THOSE ROADS ARE MATURELY RESIDENTIAL AND OPPOSITION TO THE OTHERS. AND THERE'S A SCHOOL DINO BOARDING BOTH THOSE WITHOUT COMPLETED SIDEWALKS AND THOUGH THE SPEED OUT THERE IS JUST IT'S SCARY AT TIMES SO WE THEY COULD WORK WITH US TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION THERE. I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT FOR THE TOWN AND THE

RESIDENTS ON THOSE STREETS DEFINITELY. >> AND WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN AN AMENDED MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE BECAUSE I HAVE THESE INDIVIDUAL STREETS LISTED.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PURSUE IT. WHAT'S THE THOUGHT ON SIMMONS STILL AS WELL THEN? YES. WELL, WE PASSED BEFORE WE'D BEEN DID NOT AND HE'S GOING TO ASK AND SAME THING BUT I'LL WAIT SOMEBODY ELSE WE CAN I'M

GOING TO PRINCE I'M CONFUSED. >> YES WE HAVE EGGS BEFORE WE GOT DENIED IN SO I'M CONFUSED.

SO WE THINK NOW I'M TRYING TO PUT A RESOLUTION IS GONNA GIVE US MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP OR FOR

THEM FOLLOWING THEIR POLICY AND THEIR GUIDELINES. >> OKAY.

>> WELL I'M IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WE'RE CREATING THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED URBAN CORE AT THE DEFINITION OR DISTRICT ATTORNEY DISTRICT WHICH SAYS BECAUSE THE REST LIKE RICHMOND SAYING THEY'RE NOT LOOK ROADS LIKE THE SIMMONS VILLE ARE YOU YOU CAN'T REALLY CONSIDER ALL OF THEM AS LIKE CLUSTER AND SAY HOW DO WE IMPROVE THIS URBAN CORE SPEED LIMIT? HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT TO BE LIVING THERE BECAUSE COLIN SIMMONS BILL PROBABLY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY UPON LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE PAST AND THAT MAY BE REACHING OUT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND ASKING FOR EXISTENCE YET WHICH I THINK THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IS JUST A MATTER OF HOW WELL IT RECEIVED AT THE STATE AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH THE OKATIE ON BEYOND THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTIONS ON THOSE ROADS THAT WE COULD TRY TO WORK THROUGH.

SO AT THE LEAST IT'S SAYING HEY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WE KEEP HEARING OUR CITIZENS ARE

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WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WE'RE BUILDING SIDEWALKS ON BIKE ISLAND AND SOME INFILL. WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE SAFETY FOR OUR FOLKS? HELP. OKAY.

WHEN THE MOTION COMES UP TO INCLUDE BOTH PALIN AND SIMMONS STILL IN THE MOTION BECAUSE I DO THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST PURSUE IT ALL. JOY GOT CHANGED OVER NIGHT OVERNIGHT AND I THINK WE CAN GO TO WESTERN AND ASK HOW HE DID THAT.

IT WAS NOT A MINOR AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S MINOR ARTERIAL ROAD WENT FROM 45 TO 30 BOB IN THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE LIVE ON THE CLASSIC RANGED ALWAYS THIRTY FIVE IS THIRTY FOUR BECAUSE NOW THEY CAN DROP GOLF CARTS THAT BREAK LAST YEAR AND RECENTLY CHANGED.

YEAH WELL I WAS READING IN THERE TOO WHEN YOU WERE SHOWING ALL THAT STUFF IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT LOWER BUT BELOW 25. IT IS HARD.

SO MY QUESTION IS ARE WE GOING TO WAIT TILL WE GET THEIR BLESSINGS TO CHANGE EVERYTHING BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ROADS THAT WE CAN? WE DON'T NEED THEIR BLESSING ON SUCH AS PREACHER STREET WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEED THEIR BLESSING AND THAT'S WHAT WE

FOUND OUT THERE LEGAL RACE EVEN ON OUR OWN ROADS. >> WE NEED THEIR GETS.

IT'S JUST A ANY ROAD THAT IS PUBLICLY MAINTAINED AND PROBABLY USED IS CONSIDERED A HIGHWAY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS THIS PORTION OF THE GAME IN TO REDUCE THAT SPEED LIMIT BELOW 35 MILES AN HOUR. YOU HAVE TO FALL WITHIN THIS CLASSIFICATION AS AN URBAN DISTRICT AND EVERY STREET WOULD NEED TO MEET THE STREETS. WE NEED TO MEET THAT CLASSIFICATION THE MINIMUM LENGTH OF ONE OF THOSE I BELIEVE IS A QUARTER OF A MILE

AND WELL JUST TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER. >> OVER A QUARTER I THINK WE'VE GONE SO I THINK WE'VE ADDED THAT NATURAL DATE NIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THAT A MONTH LATER WE SAW IT AND THAT WAS WHAT SPARKED THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE WANTED.

WE DID THE TRAFFIC CALMING ANALYSIS ON PRITCHARD STREET. THEY RECOMMENDED REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT. SO WE WERE READY TO MOVE FORWARD THE SPEED LIMIT AND THERE WAS WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE AND I THINK I DID LEGAL RESEARCH.

I DID A MEMO ON IT. AND SO WHEN WE START LOOKING AT IT THAT IS WHAT SPURRED THIS CONVERSATION AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS HOLISTICALLY AND LOOK AT HOW WE CAN TRY TO GET ALL OUR DISTRICT AND WORK ON OTHER ROADS AS WELL TO MEET DMD PROCESSING UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON THAT THE SPEED HUMPS WERE PUT ON THOMAS HAYWARD BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS LOOKING INTO PUDDING TO REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT THERE. AND WE HAD THAT SAME ISSUE. HILDEBRANDT SOMETHING CORRECTLY JUST FOR YOUR MINUTE. THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS SERVICE NOW GOOGLE MAPS I KNOW NOT THAT I'M ARGUING WITH YOU ON IT'S OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO YOU IF NOT IF YOU'RE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION REQUESTING SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PARTNER WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO REDUCE SPEED LIMITS IN CERTAIN STATE ON ROADS INCLUDING PORTIONS OF BRIDGE AND WALL STREET PORTIONS OF RED CEDAR WHISPERING PINE AND PINUP STREETS JASON ENABLED STREET A PORTION OF EIGHTH AVENUE, SCHULTZ AND GUTHRIE ROADS, HILDEBRAND STREET PARK, ALLEN AND SIMMONS.

ALL RIGHT. PERFECT BECAUSE YOU NEED DISCUSSIONS ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I OPPOSED. THANK YOU. WE DIDN'T IMPROVE YOUR STREET.

YEAH, WE DID. I DID. OH YES.

SAFE RETURN. WE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD PRITCHARD BECAUSE AT THE TOWN ROAD AND SO THOSE WERE SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT THOSE DOJ T ROADS. BUT CERTAINLY THE OKAY I THOUGHT WE COULDN'T CHANGE OUR SPEED LIMITS. PICTURES SO THAT THE WAY THAT WE KIND OF STRUCTURED IT. YES. GOING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WE SPOKE WITH GENERAL COUNSEL WHAT THEIR TALKING TO THEM ABOUT KIND OF CATEGORIZING THE ENTIRE AREA AS URBAN DISTRICT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE UNIQUE NATURE OF IT AND THE RESULT WAS IDENTIFIED. STATE PORTIONS OF THAT THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH US SO THERE'S NOT YET THIRTY FIVE MILES 25 MILES.

[Items XI.5 & XI.6]

WHAT IS THE BUDGETED AMOUNT? SO THAT'S IT EXACTLY. FIVE AND SIX ARE ADMINISTRATIVE AND CLERICAL ISSUES. WE HAVE ISSUED AND HAVE AWARDED MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENTS

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BUT WE'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THESE CONTRACTS MAY TRIGGER THAT POTENTIAL THRESHOLD NEVER BEYOND THE PROJECT BUDGET THOUGH BECAUSE THAT HAS TO BE WITHIN SCOPE WHEN WE ISSUED OUR RF Q USE SPECIFICALLY FOR STORM WATER CONSULTING SERVICES WE HAD THESE RESPONSES FROM THESE PARTICULAR FIRMS WHEN WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT CENTER FOR WATERSHED PROTECTION. JAY BRAGG, MCCORMACK TAYLOR AND WOLPERT UNDER CONTRACT WHICH YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED WE EXCLUDED GOODWIN, MILLS, HAYWOOD AND CRANSTON BECAUSE THEY HAD EXISTING MSA WITH THE ENGINEERING C IP GROUP WATERSHED.

AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR PROCUREMENT POLICY WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT THAT THOSE MSA COULD BE USED FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR STORM WATER AND THIS IS GONNA BE THE SAME CASE IN THE NEXT ISSUE I BRING FORWARD TO AS WELL WHEN WE RE REVIEWED THE PROCUREMENT POLICY WITH FELICIA AND WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM SOME OF THESE FIRMS THAT WERE NOT SELECTED AND ASKING US TO EXPLAIN BECAUSE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE IT WASN'T TRANSPO AND IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE. SO WE DECIDED IT WAS MUCH BETTER TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE TRUE TRANSPARENCY. SO YES, EVERYBODY IS FULLY UNDER THEIR INDIVIDUAL MSA FOR STORM WATER THIS WAY FOR USING THEM FOR THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.

IT'S CLEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US HERE TODAY.

THESE FOLKS WERE QUALIFIED. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED EXCEPT FOR WE THOUGHT THAT THE EXISTING MSA WE HAD WAS APPROPRIATE AND IT WASN'T.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO EXAMPLES OF SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY WOULD PERFORM DRAINAGE MAYBE RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN REGULATIONS, POLICIES RELATED TO STORMWATER IS THE TYPE OF THING THEY WOULD DO. AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS POTENTIALLY THE AGGREGATE OVER THE LIFESPAN AND INDIVIDUAL TASK AUTHORIZATIONS COME FORWARD TO YOU IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ISSUING THESE MSA WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THEM UNDER CONTRACT AND YOU WON'T SEE THIS AGAIN UNTIL ALL THE MSA IS EXPIRE.

AND WE COME BACK WITH ANOTHER SLEW AND WE WILL ENSURE THAT APPROPRIATE MSA ARE ISSUED FOR APPROPRIATE TASK AUTHORIZATIONS AND NOT CROSSING QUESTION. TODAY I'M SORRY I'M HOLDING YOU TO THAT. YES, SIR. I THINK IT'S GOOD WE HAVE FELICIA HELPING US GET HERE EVERY DAY TO YES ON SOME END TO DO AND CHECK ANYTHING OK.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ARTHUR SIGNING AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO ALLOW FOR TOTAL EXPENDITURES FROM A STORMWATER CONSULTING MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CRANSTON ENGINEERING GROUP P.S. AND GOODEN MILLS HAYWOOD TO EXCEED COMBINED AGGREGATE THRESHOLD OF ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS DURING THE LIFE OF THE AGREEMENTS BUT NOT TO EXCEED INDIVIDUAL PROJECT BUDGETS SO THAT THEIR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STEP OF SAYING I. AS I'M GUESSING IT'S SIMILAR PRESENTATION AND WE THINK THAT A MOTION UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

>> THIS IS THE EXACT SAME PRESENTATION JUST FLIP. NAMES HAVE BEEN TRADED NAMES.

I DON'T. NO FORMAL ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 6 IS IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OF THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OR. THERE YOU GO.

AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO ALLOW FOR TOTAL EXPENDITURES FROM THE CIVIL ENGINEERING MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENTS J BRIGHT CONSULTING INC AND MCCORMICK TAYLOR INC.

TO EXCEED THE COMBINED AGGREGATE THRESHOLD OF ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS DURING THE LIFE OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT NOT TO EXCEED INDIVIDUAL PROJECT BUDGETS. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

[XII. Consent Agenda Items]

EVERYONE'S LEFT JOE. YOU READ IT. SOMETIMES THE BEST PART OF THE AGENDA. I WRITE AN EVERY REALLY WISH THESE PEOPLE WERE HERE.

THEY WOULD JUST READ THIS. THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING YOU WANT .

NO, BUT I HAVE TO COMMENT. >> YOU WANT TO MAKE MOTION AND THEN TALK?

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YOU WANT TO ANSWER? I WANT TO MAKE A SLIGHT COMMENT TO THANK TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY UPGRADED THEIR GRAPH WHICH I LIKE 5 YEARS AND I'VE PICKED UP ON THAT AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. I WON'T WORRY YOU TO DEATH ON THIS AT THE END OF THE YEAR. MAYBE GO BACK TO A FEW YEARS AND JUST GIVE OVERVIEW OF FIVE OR SIX YEARS. BUT ANYWAY IT LOOKED GOOD. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD AND I THINK I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE HEATHER WAS ON THE AREA OF BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED. I WAS I WAS CONFUSED. I WENT BACK TO THE FEBRUARY.

IT'S GOING TO BE CONFUSING BECAUSE WE CHANGE OUR REPORTER DOWN THERE NOW DONE FISCAL YEAR VERSUS CALENDAR ALL THE NUMBERS CHANGED AND THE NUMBERS APPEARED SMALLER AND WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE 2016 THROUGH RECENT WE WERE WE WERE OFF FOUR HUNDRED AND I THINK IT WAS FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX NUMBERS COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD SAID PRIOR THAT WE

HAD. >> I WILL SAY THAT STAFF AND KEVIN AND HIS STAFF AND I WILL GIVE IT SHOT TO OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR KARI GUZMAN WHO WENT BACK BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THESE QUESTIONS WITH NUMBERS WHAT NUMBERS WHAT PERMITS ARE INCLUDED AND SHE WENT THROUGH AND SHE SCRUBBED IT ALL AND MADE SURE THAT WE'RE REPORTING ACCURATE INFORMATION AND THAT WE'RE MATCHING THE SAME REPORTING THAT FINANCE USES SO THAT WE CAN DO OUR PROJECTIONS AND OUR FISCAL ANALYSIS WITH LIKE FOR LIKE.

>> SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENCES AND OVER TIME IT'LL BE CONSISTENT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW THOSE TRENDS. SO IT IS DIFFERENT BUT WE'RE REPORTING ON FISCAL YEAR AND WE'RE ALSO WE FOUND SOME LITTLE DISCREPANCIES WHERE APARTMENTS FOR EXAMPLE WEREN'T REALLY CAPTURED UNDER RESIDENTIAL AND THEY WEREN'T CAPTURED UNDER COMMERCIAL.

SO WE'VE THIS THIS IS THE NEW AND IMPROVED MOVING FORWARD. OK, SO IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, PLEASE ALWAYS. AND REALLY ON CONSENT WE NEED TO PULL THAT SO WE CAN DISCUSS SO WE CAN VOTE ON THE WHOLE AGENDA JUST ME KEEPING IN MY WORLD ON HOW TO DO THIS.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE NEED TO PULL THAT IN BOTH OVER THE REST OF THE CONSENT. BUT IN THE FUTURE LET'S PULL IT AND THEN VOTE ON THE REMAINING.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO PULL BEFORE RIBAUT ON CONSENT AGENDA? YEAH I DON'T SEE ON HERE SPECIFICALLY YOU SEE THE DONOR IN TURN.

>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON TERMS OF OUR UPDATE OF THE FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES.

LET'S PULL THAT AROUND AND THEN YOU'LL BE PREPARED TO EITHER GET OR SOMETHING.

SO WE'RE PULLING THE UPDATE FROM THE DAN RYAN CENTER ON THE FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES.

OTHER THAN THAT THAT RECEIVED AREN'T HAPPY ALL WITH APPROVE THE CONSENT OF SOME OF THEIR

[XII. 1. Don Ryan Center for Innovation]

SIDE OF THE DAN RYAN CENTER? WE DON'T KNOW FOR PROFIT. >> REMEMBER NONPROFIT WENT THROUGH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION GREAT AS IT RECEIVED OR AS THE END LIKE WHERE WHERE ARE WE ON

THAT? >> THEN REMEMBER WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE A SECOND ROUND GO OUT IN JULY SO JUST WANT TO SEE LIKE WHO RECEIVED IT.

DID YOU ALLOCATE THE FUNDS FOR THAT? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR ANOTHER

ROUND? >> SO JUST TO SEE SCOPE SPACE THINK IT'S IT'S NOT IN THERE THAT YOU DON'T REMEMBER. SO BELIEVE I'M OFF TO GO BACK AND SEE BUT I BELIEVE THEY SENT THAT THAT LIST WAS PART OF A WEEKLY REPORT THAT WENT OUT MUCH WE DID TO THE NONPROFIT

WHEN WE DID WARD ALL THE FUNDS THAT WERE AVAILABLE. >> WE ARE DOING A SECOND ROUND OF STARTING. WE DID A MEETING ON JUNE TWENTY EIGHT THAT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY QUESTION ON KNOW HOW TO FILL THE FORMS. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT WAYS TO IMPROVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TURN IN IN PERSON AND NOT HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING VIRTUALLY BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DID A HELP SESSION FOR THOSE THAT HAD QUESTIONS ON HOW TO FILL IT OUT.SO THAT SECOND ROUND IS GONA BEGIN LEGACY OF ITS ADVERTISING OR IF IT'S ABOUT ADVERTISERS. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED OUR SECOND ROUND OF FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YET. WE'RE ALSO ONCE GET THOSE FUNDS AND WE'LL LOOK AT DOING A SECOND ROUND FOR THE NONPROFITS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. BUT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO THAT LIST AND GET YOU THE LIST DIRECTLY SO IT'S PART OF THE REPORT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THINGS AND THEN EVERYBODY IS IT THE SAME AS THE ONE THAT WAS SET IN THE WEEKLY ? YES. THAT'S ONLY AROUND HAS BEEN AWARDED BIGGER BUT THAT PROJECT ANYTHING THAT YOU SAY WHAT IT TAKES IN HAND OR JUST REWARD JUST AWARDED WILL TAKE SOME

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OKAY. AND I KNOW WE USUALLY HAVE CHRIS HERE BUT HE IS AWAY AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE APPROVED AND SUPPORTED HIS THREE WEEK TOUR AT HARVARD AND I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THE RESULTS OF THAT BUT I'M GOING TO GET WITHIN THE NEXT ROUND.

IS ANYTHING ELSE? TOMMY, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING US? SO YOU WON'T BE HERE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING LATER FOR THIS. I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS AND TALK.

TONIGHT VERY OBVIOUS IT'S EARLY . OKAY.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR

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