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LET'S SEE THE MAY 31ST MEETING, SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE BEAVER COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE MYSELF, MELVIN CAMPBELL, TRISHA FRIEDRICHS COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY, I DON'T HAVE A ZOOMBA BECAUSE ANY, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ONLINE, UM, DAVID IS THERE, RIGHT? WE NEED TO RISE FOR THE QUESTION, WHY IT IS OVER THERE BEHIND US STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, I PREFER GENDA WITH AN AMENDMENT, SO I MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA BY ADDING HRS 18 VACATION HOLIDAYS, SECONDED BY MAIL CAMPBELL, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.
UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE MAY 18TH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WENDY ON THE LINE, RIGHT? YES.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WHEN DID YOU WANT TO BRING US UP TO SPEED ON THE AR? YES, I WILL.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH BOARD MEMBERS AND GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE, THIS IS A ADMINISTRATIVE BRAG THAT WE NEED TO GET TO OUR STAFF BEFORE SUMMER STARTS, AND IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE HR S 18 AND THE AMENDMENT ARE AS FOLLOWS UNDER SECTION FOUR NON-WORK DAYS.
PRESIDENT STAYED THE THIRD MONDAY IN FEBRUARY AND JUNE TEENTH, WHICH IS JUNE 19TH HAD BEEN ADDED AS NON-WORK DAYS.
AND WE'VE ALSO ADDED THE BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOLS, COHERENT GOVERNANCE MANUAL TO HAVE THE BOARD'S POLICIES IN THERE.
AND I APPRECIATE SO MUCH THAT I CAN, UM, ADDRESS THIS WITH YOU TODAY SO WE CAN GET THIS OUT TO THE STAFF TOMORROW.
I LOOKED IT OVER AND ADVANCED.
JUNETEENTH WAS APPROVED AS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY.
SO MR. CAMPBELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SHOULD WE JUST CALL FOR A VOTE THEN WE JUST, WHAT DO WE DO? I JUST, SHE HAS SHOWN IT TO YOU RIGHT THERE.
I MISSED THE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 18TH COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MAY 18TH, 2022 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES ALL IN FAVOR.
SO AS YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE AN APPROVED LIST AT THE END OF THIS MEETING SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD ON JUNE THE SECOND.
SO WHAT YOU GOT TO BOARD DOCS, UM, IS A COMPLETELY REVISED SPREADSHEET.
RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS.
HAVEN'T CHANGED A WHOLE LOT, BUT IF YOU START COMPARING WHAT WE GAVE YOU TO WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE, YOU WILL SEE A WHOLE LOT OF NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE YOU ALL ASK HIM.
UM, AND SO WE ASKED, UM, CBR HARRY TO DO SOME UPDATES ON COSTS.
SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW COSTS, CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE PAINTING.
AND HVHC, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT THIS.
YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT OVER THE WEEKEND.
UM, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, IF YOU WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE, IF, OH YEAH.
MR. CAMPBELL AND MS. FIGURES, SHE GOES, HAS A PREFERENCE KIND OF GO AHEAD.
AND SHOULD WE GO LINE BY LINE? I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH LINE BY LINE THEN WE'LL KIND OF CAPTURE EVERYTHING.
DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU MR. CAMPBELL? BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND, WE'LL GO LINE BY LINE.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO GO BY KEVIN.
YOU'VE GOT THEM SORTED BY JUST THE RECOMMENDED, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO WITH THAT.
I THINK YOU ALL AT HAS EVERYTHING ON IT.
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THE ONES THAT WERE PUSHED, MOVED, OR YOU JUST WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT'S RECOMMENDED? I WOULDN'T MIND GOING THROUGH, LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE PUSH.MOST OF THEM WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL GO BE ABLE TO PROBABLY GO THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY.
BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY SOMETHING WAS PUSHED.
SO KEVIN, IF YOU'LL SHOW ALL OF THEM, THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS REMOVED, BUT A COUPLE OF REMOVED THAT I DID KIND OF WANT TO ASK WHY SOME WAYS SORT OF COMBINED AND SO DUPLICATION OF VERBIAGE ON THERE.
AND SO WE JUST DID SOME COMBINATIONS ON SOME OF THOSE.
UM, WE W WHAT SHOULD WE, I WOULD SAY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC ONES, LET'S JUST GO DOWN THAT LIST AND ASK THE QUESTION ON EACH LINE ITEM.
UM, SO I HAD A, ONE WAS A PUSH TO A PUSH.
I HAVE THREE WAS RECOMMENDED, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE WE NOTICED, I MEAN, IT WENT FROM 178,000 ON THE FIRST LIST OF 427,000.
DOES THAT REPRESENT INFLATION ON A TENNIS COURT? RESURFACING.
KEVIN, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THE, UH, WELL, IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION NOT ONLY THE INFLATION, BUT ALSO THE MATERIALS AND LABOR INCREASES.
SO WHERE DID THIS ORIGINAL NUMBER COME FROM THEN? I MEAN, JUST CAUSE IT'S OVER TWICE, PLUS IT WAS ONE WE'VE BEEN TRACKING.
I MEAN, IT'S ONE WE'VE HAD IN OUR SYSTEM THAT SAYS WE'RE MOVING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.
IT'S WHEN WE'VE HAD IN OUR SYSTEM FOR AWHILE, THE ACTUAL, MOST RECENT COURTS THAT WE HAVE DONE WERE COMING IN HIGHER, AND THEN OUR INFLATION COSTS HAVE GONE EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT.
SO, UM, YES, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
ANYTHING TO DO WITH PAINT, CODING, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE IS GOING UP DRAMATICALLY.
SO IS THIS A YEAR TO DO IT? I MEAN, IS THERE ANY, ANY THOUGHT TO, BECAUSE IT HAS INCREASED TWO AND A HALF TIMES, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO NOT STICKING TO THE SCHEDULE AND PUTTING IT OFF AND SEE MAY IS THIS OUR NEW NORMAL, OR WE ANTICIPATE, AND THIS IS OUR NEW NORMAL, I WOULD SAY, YES, I DO NOT SEE PRICES COMING DOWN.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE PUT OFF OF COURT, WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHEN, UM, ONCE THEY GET TO THE END OF THEIR LIFE THERE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT YEAH, BUFORD HIGH IS ALREADY ASKING TO HAVE THEIR FORT RESURFACE.
SO, UM, THEY WILL NOTICE IF WE DO NOT DO IT THIS AS, AS SCHEDULED, WE CONSIDERED USING DIFFERENT MATERIALS, CLAY COURTS VERSUS CODING.
I MEAN, JUST IN TERMS OF, IF WE HAVE SIX HIGH SCHOOLS THAT ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, 500, HOW OFTEN DO WE REPLACE TENNIS COURTS, A RESURFACE TENNIS COURT, A 10 YEAR CYCLE, AND THE MATERIAL YOU USE IT RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY THE MOST COST EFFICIENT FOR DURABILITY.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S AN EIGHT YEAR CYCLE.
CAUSE WE'RE DOING THAT'S ON MAY RIVER ON THERE.
IT'S THIS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT THIS SUMMER.
YOU HAVE DOWN THERE 108,000 FROM ME RIVER FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE A LOT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING IS THAT WAS NEEDED TO BE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY, WHAT'S BUDGETED.
I BELIEVE IT WENT OVER BUDGET AND WE HAD TO MOVE MONEY OUT OF CONTINGENCY FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE SEEING COSTS GO UP DRAMATICALLY.
SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE THEN IT'S IN THE BID PROCESS.
I MEAN IT'S, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE ASK THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SCOTT SAW THAT ALL THE BID STUFF WAS COMING IN MUCH HIGHER.
AND SO SINCE WE WERE AT THIS POINT OF LOOKING AT IT, LET'S LOOK AT ALL OF THEM.
THE NUMBERS THAT WE RECENTLY HAD COMING IN, ESPECIALLY ON PAINTING SCHOOLS ARE SHOCKINGLY HIGH.
SO AFTER GETTING THOSE NUMBERS, THAT'S WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO REVISIT ALL THESE, THAT'S GOING TO BRING ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION, SKIPPING IRRIGATION FOR ENTRY, UNLESS SOMEONE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT, REMOVE THE PAINTING, THE PARTIAL BUILDING 766,000.
I THOUGHT THOSE WERE KIND OF LIKE SET IN STONE.
FOR SOME REASON, THIS, UH, WAS LEFT ON HERE.
BOSTON HIGH IS ACTUALLY BEING DONE THIS SUMMER.
IT WILL BE COMPLETED THIS SUMMER.
IT'S NOT SCHEDULED TO BE DONE THIS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THAT TRANSFERRING OVER FROM ONE DATABASE TO ANOTHER, HOW IT ENDED UP IN THIS ONE, SHE'S NOT ON THIS LIST.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE ADDED OUT OF CONTINGENCY OR FROM LAST YEAR, THAT APPROVED LIST.
WELL, WHAT'D, YOU GUYS GAVE ME, GAVE US
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TWO WEEKS AGO.I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WAS ON THE, I WAS JUST WONDERING, CAUSE IT'S NOT ON THERE.
IT'S IF IT'S $766,000, I MEAN, HOW MUCH CONTINGENCY DOES THE, DOES IT HAVE? I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT WE'RE LOCKED IN HIGH.
WE ACTUALLY SPLIT INTO TWO YEARS.
SO WE DID IT LAST SUMMER AND THIS SUMMER.
SO THE FUNDING FOR IT, FOR THIS SUMMER WAS LAST SUMMER'S FUNDING THAT DOES BRING A FAINT NOW BECAUSE IT WAS SO HIGH.
AND WE THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME COVID ISSUES.
SO WE ONLY DID, IT WAS SCHEDULED TO HAVE AN ENTIRE BUILDING PAINTING.
UM, WE ONLY DID THE CORRIDORS LAST SUMMER AND THIS SUMMER WE ARE DOING THE CLASSROOMS. THE TOTAL COST IS WHEN YOU PUT THE TWO SUMMERS TOGETHER AS CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S THAT IS, THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO I GUESS WE'RE DONE NUMBER SEVEN, PLUMP, THE MIDDLE SHADE STRUCTURE.
THE MIDDLE CANOPIES FOR THE BUS LOOP AREA.
THAT'S COST HAD GONE UP AS WELL AND BOOKED A MIDDLE IS ONE OF THE SCHOOLS THAT'S BEING SHUT DOWN FOR SUMMER WORK NEXT SUMMER AND THE ENTIRE BUILDING THAT'S NEXT ONE, PAVED THE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE CAFETERIA DOORS, THE PLACE STORES.
SO THIS KIND OF BRINGS ME WITH MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SAY REPAIR RESTROOMS AT SCHOOL, SOMETIMES WE SAY REPLACE RESTROOM, STALL DOORS.
SOMETIMES WE SAY REPAIR RE LIKE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PARSE OUT CERTAIN SPECIFIC THINGS AND THEN HAVE SORT OF GROUP BUCKETS AND OTHER PLACES? CAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD ALL FALL UNDER REPAIR RESTROOMS. YES.
SO I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS THERE A LOT OF TIMES IS WE HAVE AN ITEM OR TRACKING, AND THIS WAS PUT IN AS A, UH, I HAD A GUEST PRINCIPAL REQUIRED, ALTHOUGH THIS ONE'S OLDER, I SEE THAT IT'S JUST ALL DOORS AND NOT, IT'S NOT THE REST OF THE BATHROOM KIND OF RENOVATION, WHICH ARE THE BIGGER PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE LATER, $2,500 TO REPLACE ALL THE BATHROOM DOORS.
AND THAT MUST BE IN ONE RESTROOM OR THEY MUST BE LIMITED.
IT COULD BE ROLLED INTO THE OVERALL.
I MEAN THAT COULD COME OFF AND IT COULD BE ROLLED INTO OUR RESTROOM REPLACEMENT LIST.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO WAS THAT YOU ASKED FOR LAST TIME WAS COME UP WITH OUR PLAN FOR THE RESTAURANTS, WHICH WE MAY GET THERE WHEN WE GET TO THAT NUMBER.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE BLUFFTON MIDDLE IS ON THAT LIST RIGHT NOW.
I GUESS SOME OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS TOO, IT'S $2,500 WORTH OF BATHROOM STALL DOOR REPLACEMENTS.
AND HAVING BEEN IN A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS, PRETTY MUCH EVERY BATHROOM COULD TAKE SOME NEW STALL DOORS AND WE'RE JUST DOING ONE RESTROOM.
WOULDN'T THAT BE LIKE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE? I MEAN, WHEN DOES IT TRICK UP INTO 8%? TYPICALLY I WOULD, MY STANDARDS THAT NEEDS TO BE OVER $5,000.
THERE'S NO RE YOUR, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
THAT ONE COULD EASILY COME OFF.
I WANT THEM TO HAVE NEW RESTAURANTS, ALL DOORS.
I'M JUST, I'M LOOKING MORE AT THE BIG PICTURE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT ALL WORKS.
YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT OR PUSH IT, KEEP IT THE RESTROOM STALL DOORS, PLEASE.
BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO TRACK ALL THIS STUFF TOO.
AND TO MR. CAMPBELL'S POINT TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, ALL OF THIS JUST GETS JUMPED INTO ASSET PRESERVATION, SO IT'S HARD TO TRACK WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND WHAT'S BEING DONE AND WHAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD KIND OF JUMP INTO THE DETAIL OF WHAT I MIND ITEM NUMBER 11 IS WHERE IT MAY HAVE PICTURES OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE INFORMATION.
RESTROOMS ARE A BIG DEAL FOR PARENTS.
UM, ROOF REPLACEMENT LEFT A MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WHY JUST THE ROOF ON THE GYM, THE GYM, IT'S A FAIRLY NEW ROUTE.
I MEAN, THAT BUILDING WAS COMPLETED IN 2010.
AND SO, BUT IF WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT GYM REPEATEDLY, UM, IT'S, IT'S SPECIFIC ON HOW THAT GYM WAS DONE.
AND UH, WE, WE NEED TO JUST, INSTEAD OF DOING REPAIRS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, OR WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE ROOF AS WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DO, IS IT, THIS IS SINCE 2011, NONE.
IF IT WAS UNDER WARRANTY, RIGHT.
IT WAS REPLACED IN 2010 AND IT'S BEEN REQUESTED IN 2011 DEBATES.
IT ACTUALLY CAME UP SOMETIME AFTER AND IT WAS OUT OF WARRANTY.
CAUSE THE ONLY THING THE, WELL WITHOUT, YES, IT'S OUT OF WARRANTY, WE'VE BEEN PATCHING IT FOR 10 YEARS.
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UH, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT BEGAN, IT'S A ISSUE WITH THE INSTALLATION IS TRAPPING MOISTURE AND IT CONTINUES TO HAVE TO BE REPAIRED.NUMBER 13, 13 FOOD SERVICE STORAGE UNITS AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, DON'T THINK THAT ONE CHANGED MUNCH, A RENOVATION TO ADD THE KITCHEN SPACE.
SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT WILL ASSESS RIGHT CHOICES, REPLACE HOT WATER HEATER.
SHOULD WE HAVE THAT ON REMOVE THE KITCHEN SPACE THING? I THOUGHT WE WERE AT A CODE.
SO WHY DON'T WE DO IT THIS SUMMER? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING OR THE ABILITY TO GET IT DONE THIS SUMMER, YOU KNOW, TO GET IT DONE IN TERMS OF JUST LIKE SUPPLIES AND STUFF HAD DESIGNED IT.
I DON'T MAYBE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, LIKE FOODS.
UM, IT'S MORE, UH, IT CAN BE MANAGED IS MORE TO DO WITH ENSURING CAUSE THEY HAVE HOT BOXES THERE TO KEEP THE TEMPERATURE.
UM, AND D HECK HAS LED US, HAD LET US FUNCTION IN THAT WAY IN THE PAST.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF EXACTLY WHAT THEIR, UM, STATEMENT ABOUT A COMPLIANCE, BUT WHAT OUR ANSWER TO THEM WOULD BE WITH THIS FUNDING.
WE'RE ADDRESSING IT AS SOON AS WE CAN, BUT WE CAN'T GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND JUST POP UP A KITCHEN.
WE HAVE TO DESIGN IT AND THEN WE CAN BUILD IT.
CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A SAFETY COMPONENT, BUT YOU'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THE HOTBOX SITUATION, NO ONE'S GOING TO GET WELL, IT'S NOT MY AREA.
I WOULD SAY I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO, TO TALK ON THAT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE ADDRESSING IT THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
IF WE GOT FUNDING, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO PUT IT TOGETHER? WELL, AS SOON AS, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO DESIGN IT AND WE HAVE TO BUILD IT.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR OUT WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, DESIGN IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE.
CAUSE IT'S A KITCHEN IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE COMPLICATED, ESPECIALLY ON AN EXISTING SITE LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD IT.
SO THE FASTEST, ONCE YOU TELL US WHAT WE CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN UNTIL YOU FUND IT.
AND ONCE WE FUND IT, WE CAN GO THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN.
SO WITH THIS, WE COULD BE READY BY THE START OF 2023.
SO ONCE JUNE 7TH WE FIND 25, 20 5 BILLION, $25 MILLION BIN THAT WILL, YOU CAN START LIKE JUNE 8TH, YOU COULD IN THEORY, START ON THE DESIGN PROCESS.
TYPICALLY WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THE SUMMER.
WE WOULD, WE, AS SOON AS WE CAN, WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE ARCHITECTS WE HAVE ON RIGHT NOW, THE SAME ARCHITECTS WE'RE TO USE FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO YES, IN THEORY, WE COULD START THE NEXT DAY WITH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
AND MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON ALL THIS DESIGN WORK ON THE DISTRICT OFFICE.
AND ACTUALLY I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO THERE'S SOME VERY CONCEPTUAL STUFF THAT'S HAPPENED AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
THEY CAN GET MORE SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING INTO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR DESIGN, FROM LIKE A BOARD, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL, WHATEVER OVERSIGHT PROCESS.
IT JUST, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LIKE, IS THERE A FAST TRACK PROCESS SO WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, SO THE HECK DOES COME IN THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE THING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A MILLION DOLLAR KITCHEN, UM, THERE ARE SOME DISADVANTAGES TO FAST-TRACKING.
I MEAN, WELL THERE, THE PROCESS TAKES WHAT IT TAKES.
WE CAN DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S GOT TO HAVE DX APPROVAL, IT'S GOT TO HAVE OSF APPROVAL AND WE HAVE TO BID IT AND WE HAVE TO CONSTRUCT.
SO THE CONVERSATION JUST ONE MORE SECOND, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE THING, RIGHT? LIKE FROM A, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT DESIGN AND EFFICIENCY AND ALL THAT.
AND THEN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW IT AFFECTS THE STUDENTS, HOW YOU KNOW, THOSE DON'T ALWAYS MATCH UP.
RIGHT? SO THESE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SO WE'RE TAKING THE, OR THE HOT WATER HEATERS GOING OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NEEDED.
I GUESS NUMBER 15, I WOULD, I KNOW WE I'M TRYING MARIJUANA.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN SORT OF, WELL, I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON, UM, THE FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT TO NAIL DOWN ITEMS LIKE THAT GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME HOT WATER HEATER UPGRADES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
SO I THINK WE'RE CATCHING UP WITH WHERE WE WERE BEHIND THAT THAT IS WHAT THE PURPOSE BEHIND REMOVING THAT WAS BECAUSE WE'RE FINALIZING THE FCA AND THE FCA DOES INCLUDE WATER HEATERS.
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AND THE DISTRICT OFFICE HAS REPLACED THE HPAC SYSTEMS. YOU GOT TWO, TWO UNITS THAT DEFINITELY NEED TO GET, SO I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THAT FOR NEXT SUMMER, BUT THIS SUMMER WE'RE SPENDING CLOSE TO A MILLION TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO IT'S PHASES, UM, PHASE ONE IS BEING PAID FOR BY THIS SUMMER'S MONEY.
AND SPECIFICALLY IS THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES AREA.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THE OTHER PHASE IS THE FINE.
IT'S KIND OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S THE RIGHT SIDE, THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THE LEFT SIDE.
AND SO I DO KNOW PHASE THREE IS, UH, THE LEFT SIDE ACTUALLY AT THE CAMERA OR FINANCE, OR I THINK FINANCE IS FIRST THAT'S PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO IS A SUPERINTENDENT AND HR PHASE THREE IS WHAT IS ISD AND, UM, WHAT IS BECOMING STUDENT SERVICES.
SO THEN AFTER THAT 850,000 THIS SUMMER AND THE ONE AND A HALF MILLION NEXT SUMMER, IT WILL ALL BE DONE.
SO THE DISTRICT OFFICE IS GETTING A LOT OF FUNDING AND YOU'LL SEE, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE RENOVATING IT.
WE'RE ADDING THE, UM, THE, UH, KITCHEN AREA.
WE'RE ADDING THEIR FOOD STORAGE AREA.
THE ONLY THING LEFT IS THE ROOF THAT WILL PROBABLY BE NEXT.
AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE WITH THE DISTRICT OFFICE AND WE'RE DOING ALL THE HPAC PRIOR TO DOING THE ROOF.
AND SO GETTING ALL THAT REPLACED AND THE ROOF IS PROBABLY GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA SEE NEXT YEAR AND ON THE NEXT RUN BACK ON THE ROAD.
SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT ALL OFF TO DO THE ROOF.
UM, YOU PUT CURVING AND HAVE IT SET UP AHEAD OF TIME.
IN SOME OF THE INSTANCES, YOU MAY HAVE TO TAKE SOME OFF, BUT IT SHOULD BE SET UP WHERE THE CURBING WILL BE DONE WHEN YOU PUT UP THE HPAC AND THEY WILL GO UP TO THAT POINT AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM OFF.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THEY ALL AREN'T.
UM, BUT IT'S BETTER TO DO THE HPAC FIRST.
AND THEN INSTEAD OF DOING THE ROOF AND THEN COMING BACK, UH, AND DOING YOUR, ALL YOUR HPAC WORK ON A NEW GROUP.
SO WE'RE DOING HPAC FIRST AND ROOF SECOND, OR THE HVC UNITS, I'M ASSUMING ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT FACILITIES ASSESSMENT THAT COMES IN, THEY ARE NOT DOING THE DISTRICT OR YOUR DISTRICT, WHATEVER, ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND WHATNOT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, BECAUSE ONE OF MY THINGS IS I'LL MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE SCHOOLS GET THE SAME, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENT IF THEY'RE NEEDED.
CAUSE I KNOW THAT PERIODICALLY THEY GO OUT AND EVERYONE'S MISERABLE.
UM, SCHOOLS ARE FIRST, UM, WE HAVE A FAILING SYSTEM ON THE DISTRICT OFFICE THAT FAILED REPEATEDLY.
SO ROBIN WOULD LIKE IT TO STOP RAINING IN HER OFFICE ACTUALLY THAT IT RAINS ON THERE.
SO THE DISTRICT OFFICE HAS MOVED TO A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE SCHOOLS IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FAILING ONES IN THE SCHOOLS.
YOU'LL SEE THEM ON THE SCHOOL.
AND THEN YOU PUSH THE ATHLETIC UPGRADES.
THERE'S THE ELEVATOR UPGRADES IN THE SCHOOLS OR IN THE DISTRICT OFFICE THAT WAS IN SCHOOLS.
IT WAS JUST A DISTRICT LEVEL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
DOES THAT INCLUDE SAFETY? WELL, YES IT WOULD BE.
BUT UM, IF IT'S A SAFETY, WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
WE HAVE UPGRADED THE ONES THAT, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO GO AROUND AND UPGRADE THE MALL.
UM, THERE ARE SOME NEW CODE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THEM UP TO THE MOST CURRENT CODE.
UH, WE'VE REPLACED BUFORD L WE REPLACED LADY'S ALL MIDDLE.
UM, BUT THEY ARE FUNCTIONING THERE.
ISN'T ONE RIGHT NOW THAT WE FEEL HAS TO BE REPLACED IMMEDIATELY.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CODE ITEM IS.
I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, BUT, UM, ACTUALLY KEVIN, YOU MAY KNOW, UH, SORRY, I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
UM, WITH THE LATEST CODE REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET WITH THE ELEVATORS UP TOP OF MY HEAD.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, UH, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, FIRE ALARM AND ADA REQUIREMENTS TO WHERE YOU GOT TO BRING THEM FROM ANALOG TO A DIGITAL SYSTEM.
AND SO THAT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED LIKE ON YOUR CRITERIA, SAFETY AND SECURITY AT THE VIA TOP ITEM.
WHAT IT MEANS IS IF FUNCTIONS, AS LONG AS IT'S FUNCTIONING AND IT WOULD BE FINE, UM, ANYTIME YOU UPGRADE IT, YOU HAVE
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TO UPGRADE IT TO THE LATEST CODE AND WE'D LIKE TO UPGRADE THEM, BUT IF IT'S A FUNCTIONING ELEVATOR, UM, WE, WE HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES, BUT IF THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY, WE CAN, UM, BRING THAT ONE FORWARD, PARTICULARLY THAT ANYONE'S BEEN STARTED THAT RIGHT NOW.SO BUFORD, AND YOU WILL HAVE THAT ON THE FCA AS WELL.
THE, I THINK WHAT ROBERT'S TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IS THAT THEY ARE NEW CODES, THAT IF YOU HAVE FUNDING AND YOU WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME, YOU GET AHEAD OF IT.
BUT THE ARE PASSING THE FATE FIRE AND, UH, ELEVATOR INSPECTIONS.
THEY'RE JUST NOTING THAT THESE SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP THE NEXT TIME AROUND AND THEY ARE ON THE FCA.
WHAT HAPPENED? WE HAD A FAILURE LADIES ON FELLOWSHIP NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
IT'S GOING TO BE, GET AHEAD OF IT.
UH, JUST CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE FAILED ELEVATOR, IT CAUSES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND WE RAN INTO THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, LADIES ON METALS.
SO TO KEVIN'S POINT, YES, OUR GOAL IS TO GET AHEAD OF THEM.
UM, BUT WE HAD HIGHER PRIORITIES THAN THOSE RIGHT NOW.
I'M GOING TO PUT A QUESTION MARK NEXT TO THAT ONE.
I JUST GET CONCERNED WHEN WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES THAT USE THESE ELEVATORS AND I DON'T, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE PASSING INSPECTION, BUT YOU KNOW, SO AT THE VERY MINIMUM, THAT'S THE BASE LINE TO PASS THE INSPECTION.
WHEREAS, I MEAN, IF YOU, WHEN YOU SAID CODES, DID YOU NOT JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, FIRE CODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST SHIFTING FROM AN ANALOG, WHICH IS AN OLD SYSTEM TO A NEW DIGITAL ASSET, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL SAFETY OF THE OPERATION OF THE ELEVATOR OR THE ADA REQUIREMENTS AND, AND THESE ELEVATORS, DO THEY TALK TO OUR SYSTEM? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE UPGRADES WE'VE DONE IN THE BUILDING.
SO IS THERE ANY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS STILL ANALOG AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR BUILDING IS DIGITAL.
IS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THAT? THE, WHEN WE DID THE FCAS AND STUFF, ALL OF THE AREA REFUGE WORKED CAUSE WE TESTED THOSE TO MAKE SURE.
SO THE, UH, BASED ON OUR, UH, AT A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND THE OPERATIONS OF THE ELEVATORS, THEY WERE ALL PERFECTLY FINE AND THEY WOULD ALL BE TIRED, TIED TO THE FIRE ALARM TO BE PART OF THE FIRE ALARM INSPECTION.
WE'LL SAY, JUMPING AHEAD, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT LIKE NUMBER 2,620 5,000 TO UPGRADE, LOOK, PICNIC TABLES, BENCHES AND CANOPY REPLACEMENTS.
I MEAN, MY GUESS IS THOSE ARE STILL SOMEWHAT FUNCTIONAL.
WELL, SOME ARE THOSE PICNIC TABLES THAT ARE SORT OF A PLASTIC COATED METAL THING.
THEY START DELAMINATING AND AT SOME POINT THEY ARE JUST NOT VERY SAFE.
SO WE NEED TO REMOVE SOME OR REPLACE FROM THE BENCHES PICNIC TABLES, A COUPLE OF THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE FLOORING PRESENTING YOUR FLOORING PLAN FLOORING.
SO WE'VE GOT ONE THAT WAS REMOVED AND WE'VE JUST NOW GOT THE FLOORING UPGRADES.
UM, KEVIN, YOU WANT TO PULL UP THAT FLOORING ONE AND AGAIN, THIS ONE IS BASED OFF, UM, THE FCA SHOWING WHAT'S REMAINING LIFE ON WHAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT AND WE'VE GOT, THERE YOU GO SEE IT.
UM, CAN YOU SEE THE DISTRICT OFFICES IN THERE? THE LAST ONE, THEY BLOW IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS LIST? WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW WE PUT TOGETHER AN ACTUAL, THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF AWFUL WALL ON, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
BUT WE'RE EXTRACTING INFORMATION THAT WAS PUT INTO CAR GRAPH THAT DEALS WITH OUR FCA AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS AND WE CAN DO IT BY CATEGORIES OF GOOD, FAIR AND OR REPLACE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THE, IN THE SHORT BY SECTION, WE WENT WITH THOSE THAT WERE LABELED, UH, REMAINING LIFE, LESS THAN SIX YEARS.
SO THESE, THESE CAME UP AS THE WORST IN THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
SO HOW DO YOU, THERE'S THREE CATEGORIES HERE, FLOORING UPGRADES AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, FLOORING UPGRADES AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS REMAINING
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AND FLOORING UPGRADES W ONE WAS REMOVED, ONE WAS RECOMMENDED AND ONE IS BELOW.WHICH, I MEAN, I GUESS MEANS IF WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THAT DOLLAR VALUE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE AT 25 MILLION.
SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT, UM, BORING PLAN, HE HAD YOU'RE AT $3.2 MILLION TO REPLACE ALL THE FLOORING THAT HAS, THAT RECOMMENDED LIFE LASTS LESS THAN SIX YEARS.
SO WE'RE ONLY GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PRACTICE $800,000 OUT OF THAT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE 300, I MEAN, 3.2 MILLION LEFT.
SO THE REST OF THAT, THE 3 MILLION IS GOING THE LINE.
SO THOSE SCHOOLS YOU HAD UP THERE, THE SUICIDE, THAT'S THE ONES THAT MADE THE RECOMMENDED LIST.
SO HOW WILL YOU DECIDE? BECAUSE THE DISTRICT OFFICE 1.7, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND THAT 800,000 I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WHAT BUILDINGS ARE CLOSED AND WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO DO THE DISTRICT OFFICE IS A CHALLENGE THAT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
CAUSE IT JUST NEVER CLOSED THAT.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THAT RENOVATION, WHERE IS RENOVATING AN AREA WILL WE CAN REPLACE THE FLOORING? UM, I ACTUALLY ON THE LIST THAT WE HAVE TO CLOSE NEXT YEAR, UM, SO MOSSY OAKS, $4,500 INTO MINE, SMALL AREA, SOMEWHERE THAT THE FOUR MUST BE FAILING.
SO THIS IS PULLED OUT OF A DATABASE OF WHAT THEY HAVE, CORRECT SPACES THAT THEY HAVE REPLACED THE ISLAND.
AND IT'S BASICALLY THE HILTON HEAD SCHOOLS AND THE DISTRICT DUKING IT OUT FOR 800,000.
AND AGAIN, LIKE ROBERT SAID AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, IT MAY BE, WE CAN ONLY JUST DO ONE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE RELOCATE ONE DEPARTMENT AND WE GET IT DONE OVER A SUMMER.
WHEREAS YOU MIGHT DO, YOU WOULD DO ALL OF ANOTHER SCHOOL.
AND WE MAY PRIORITIZE DOING A FULL SCHOOL IS A LOT.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO BREAK IT UP INTO MULTIPLE YEARS.
CAUSE THAT'S JUST REPLACING ALL THE FLOOR IN A SCHOOL IS A MAJOR UNDERTAKING, BUT YOU WILL, SOME OF THIS 800,000, IT WON'T ALL BE IN THE DISTRICT.
I JUST NOT PUT IT ALL IN THE DISTRICT.
I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE.
CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THIS SOME DEGREE.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY A FLOOR IS FAILING, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS IT AESTHETICS? IS IT KIDS ARE TRIPPING BECAUSE THE FLOORS PEELING UP? IS IT WHAT A PROBLEM? WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A LOT OF THEM.
YOU'RE EITHER GETTING CRACKED TILES AND A LOT OF THEM YOU'RE GETTING ACTUALLY THE GLUE AND I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY REPLACED IT COOSA FOR EXAMPLE, THE MEDIA CENTER BECAUSE, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING A LOT.
WELL, THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF FLOOR, BUT SIMILAR TO THIS, UM, AS YOU GOT RID OF THE GLUE, THE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY GLUE IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE OLDER TYPE.
AND A LOT OF TIMES, UH, IT STARTS TO SEEP UP AND YOU'LL START TO SEE REALLY BLACK AREAS AROUND EVERY TILE JUST LOOKS HORRIBLE AND YOU CAN'T EVER GET IT.
I DON'T KNOW THEY NEED IT'S A TRIP HAZARD OR ANYTHING, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU DO SEE SOME CRUMBLY VCT TILE AND YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, VCT HAS A LIFE OF 50 YEARS.
UM, R SHOULD HAVE A LIFE OF 50 YEARS, BUT LIKE COOSA WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO REPLACE A MEDIA CENTER JUST BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO HORRIBLE BECAUSE OF ALL THE GLUE THAT WAS COMING UP.
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH MOISTURE FROM UNDERNEATH THAT'S IMPACTING THE, THE TILE, BUT IT'S NOT CREATING TRIPPING OR HEALTH HAZARDS AT ANY TIME.
IF WE, IF WE HAVE A HEALTH HAZARD OR A TRIPPING HAZARD THAT WILL BE REPLACED AND IT MIGHT GET REPLACED WITH A TILE THAT DOESN'T MATCH, BUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL GET REPLACED AND THAT WILL GET REPLACED TO MAKE.
YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN SHE STARTED HAVING ODDBALL TILES OVER AND OVER ABOUT ONE IN FOUR WITH, SINCE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A MODE THAT THAT'S JUST, BCT, THAT'S AN AREA OF VCT THAT JUST LIKE ROBERT JUST SAID IT'S PEELING UP.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT FURNITURE REPLACEMENTS KIND OF DOING THE SAME THING WITH THEM THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE FLOORING, YOU KNOW, THAT TOTAL AMOUNTS, YOU KNOW, $3.8 MILLION.
AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND DOING 825 MILLION AND PUT THE 3 MILLION BELOW THE LINE.
SO IF WE CAN DO SOME MORE, UM, AND THEN THAT LAST ONE WAS JUST A REMOVED THAT ONE POSITION, HIGH PRIORITY FUNDING AND PRIORITY FUNDING, THE WORDS BELOW THE LINE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT REMOVED
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THE DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT CAME ON THAT LIST THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT ONE OFF.SO WE DID ALL PROGRAM THAT WAY.
WE'RE PUSHING THE 41 MILLION FOR THE NEW SCHOOL.
HUH? WE DO WANT TO DOCUMENT THAT WE KNOW IT'S NEEDED.
NOW WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT.
UM, YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PICNIC TABLES, BENCHES, CANOPIES, THAT KNEE REPLACEMENTS.
JUST TO POINT OUT IF THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE, IF THEY'RE, DE-LAMINATING, I'M GUESSING THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S LIKE RUST OR YOU SAID IT WAS, YOU KNOW, HEAT BURNS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, IF THE LAMINATE'S THAT'D BE GOOD TO PUT UNDER SAFETY.
CAUSE IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, AS OPPOSED TO, WE WANT MORE PICNIC SPACES FOR, YOU KNOW, OVER ELEVATORS.
AND WE JUST HAVE THE SCHOOL EQUIPMENT, UH, BUSES, WE MOVED BELOW THE LINE, UH, THE OTHER BUS, WE REMOVED THAT ONE, SORT OF LET'S SAY WHAT WE'RE SORT OF DUPLICATIVE.
WE TOOK THE MAT REPLACEMENTS WITH LOGOS ARE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE PM FEES ADDED IN THAT'S RECOMMENDED UPGRADE RESTROOMS AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A RESTROOM PLAN THAT KEVIN CAN PULL UP FOR US THIS.
SO THIS ONE IS NOT, NONE OF THESE RUSSIANS ARE GETTING DONE IN 2023 BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE APPROVED THAT 20, 23 ON THE, UH, KEVIN, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS APPROVED TO BEING DONE THIS SUMMER AS WELL, BRANCH, A LITTLE SCHOOL AND HIS THREE BANKS OF THEM, THE PLANNING YOU GAVE OR PROVIDED LAST YEAR, THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO DO THOSE THREE BANKS.
THEY'RE IN DESIGN NOW AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE THIS SUMMER.
YOU'RE SAYING THE $768,000 WE ALLOCATED FOR RESTROOM REPAIRS GOT US ONE RESTROOM THAT WAS NOT EVEN ONE OF THE PRIORITY RESTROOMS. SO THIS GETS CONFUSING.
SO KEVIN, THEY ARE REFERENCING IN THE BOOK WE PUT TOGETHER FOR THEM THE 10 YEAR PLAN WHERE WE SHOWED 2020, RIGHT.
I'M ALSO REFERENCING THIS CBRS THING FROM 2014.
THAT SHOWED ALL 10 YEARS BEFORE WE STARTED FOCUSING JUST ON THIS 24 LIFTS, BUT WE SHOWED THEM 10 YEARS WITH 2023 GOING FORWARD.
WHAT IS IT THEY'RE SEEING THAT I DON'T SEE THESE POLLS THAT YOU SHOW LISTED ARE SHOWING UP IN, IN THAT 20, 2300 LOCATION.
THEY MAY HAVE BEEN, IT WAS IN THE WRONG YEAR ON THAT.
WELL, BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS ONE THAT WE STARTED IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT HAD NOT FINISHED.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO FINISH THAT PROJECT UP THIS SUMMER.
WE HAD AN UNFINISHED RESTROOMS, LIKE LET, JUST BE RENOVATED.
WE HAD RENOVATED THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THAT'LL FINISH OUT WELL BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL.
BUT THE A, THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S FUNDING THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I THOUGHT SHE HAD ASKED ABOUT FUNDING OUT OF 2023.
IT SAYS 768,020 23 TO RESTAURANTS PRIOR TO OUR PARTY LOCATIONS TO BE JJ DAVIS, WHALE, BRANCH ELEMENTARY CORE RESTAURANTS, MACIAS.
HELENA LADY'S ISLAND, HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL HILTON HEAD SCHOOL FOR CARROTS IN PORT ROYAL.
UM, AND THAT'S LAID OUT ON CVRE.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE INSTEAD WHAT WE DID IS WE DECIDED TO FINISH A PROJECT, A WHALE BRANCH, MIDDLE SCHOOL PRIORITY, UNKNOWN, AND IT COSTS $768,000 TO GET THREE BANKS OF RESTROOMS DONE.
WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER YET, BUT YES, BUT THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT'S APPROVED.
SO HOW DO, WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS PRIORITY PROCESS? BECAUSE THIS WAS IN 2014, THESE WERE PRIOR TO LOCATIONS.
WHY DO WHALE BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL GET TO JUMP AND TAKE ALL THE FUNDING? IT WAS ACTUALLY A PRIORITY BEFORE AND IT JUST WASN'T FINISHED.
SO WHY WASN'T ON THE PRIORITY LIST? I MEAN, IT JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT YOU CAN JUST SORT OF REPRIORITIZE AFTER THE FUNDING'S BEEN APPROVED.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT FREDDIE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, SOMEONE SAID, I GOT SOME EXTRA MONEY.
YEAH, GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE BEST FIRMS LAST MEETING BECAUSE I SAID, OH, CHRISTMAS GIFT.
I REMEMBER THE CHRISTMAS GIFTS ON IT.
ONE TIME I WOULD GENERALLY CAME BY THE SCHOOL WHEN I GUESS A PROJECT WAS COMPLETED.
AND THEY HAD SOME FUNDING LEFTOVER TO A DUE TO THE RESTROOMS AT WILLIAM WRENCH MIDDLE SCHOOL AT THAT TIME,
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HEY, HOW Y'ALL DOING? SO, SO THAT WHOLE HUNDREDS, SO THAT WHOLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE APPROVED FOR SEVEN, RIGHT.BATHROOMS TO BE DONE ALL WENT TO WHALE BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL BECAUSE IT WAS UNFINISHED FROM PRIOR YEARS.
AND WE ONLY FUNDED HALF OF WHAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING.
AND AGAIN, HALF OF THE FUNDING, THE OTHER PART WENT BELOW THE LINE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT ORIGINAL LIST ASKED FOR A HIGHER AMOUNT.
EVERY BATHROOM IN THE DISTRICT PROBABLY NEED TO REDO AND WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE FCA IS.
DON'T TELL US EXACTLY WHICH ONE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THAT YOU, THE PRIOR OF THE PRIORITY LIST, WHERE TO SHOW THAT ON THE FLOOR, YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANT FAN PULLED UP AND PULLED IT UP.
CAN YOU PULL UP THE RESTROOM ONE? SO MY SENSE IS THAT WE'RE MAKING YOU GUYS ARE ASKING US TO MAKE, DO YOU HAVE APPROVAL OF SOMETHING THAT IS JUST HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US HERE IS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED? SO IN THE PAST, THERE WAS NOT AS MUCH LEGWORK TO FIGURE THESE OUT AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH THE FCA, ONCE THAT IS DONE WILL HELP TO PROVIDE US.
SO THAT'S PART OF THIS OR THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
ONCE THAT IS COMPLETE, WE WILL HAVE HARDER NUMBERS TO, UH, TO, TO GIVE YOU ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
SO BASED ON THE LIST YOU SENT ME OF WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD LINE ITEM 21, RESTROOM 768,889.
YOU'RE SAYING WE ONLY USE HALF OF THAT MONEY.
THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ALSO A LOW THE LINE, RIGHT? SO ORIGINALLY WHEN THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, WHEN YOU GOT TO THE APPROVAL OR WE GOT, WHEN WE WERE KNOCKING IT DOWN TO THE 20 MILLION, WE PUT IT BELOW THE LINE SO THAT IT'S MORE MONEY WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE.
WE COULD DO MORE OF THE RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW.
THE NO MONEY HAS BEEN MOVED INTO THAT ITEM BELOW THE LINES, TENNIS COURTS.
NO, THERE IS NO FUNDING DOWN THERE.
SO WE HAVE 748,000 BELOW THE LINE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT'S A DESIRED, THERE IS $0, BUT WHEN YOU BROKE IN HALF THE PUT 7 68 ABOVE 7 48 BELOW, APPARENTLY YOU'RE SAYING THREE RESTAURANTS THAT WILLOW BRANCH MIDDLE COST 7 68, AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS GOING TO BE DONE AT 7 48.
I DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD OUT OF THAT LIST AS WELL, BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH WILL BE IN THE RANGE OF THE 708 FOR, TO DO THREE COMPLETE RENOVATIONS.
SO WHEN THESE WERE IDENTIFIED IN SOME, I'VE SEEN 2014 AND 2015, AND THE REASON I'M MAKING SUCH A BIG THING ABOUT IT IS CAUSE I'M TRYING HOW BAD A REAL BRANCHES, BATHROOMS, MIDDLE SCHOOLS, BATHROOMS COMPARED TO THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITIES LIKE JJ DAVIS AND MARCIO, THAT'S WHERE THE FCA WOULD GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
WE DID NOT HAVE THAT PREVIOUSLY.
YOU AT LEAST HAD HILTON HEAD ON AT HIGH SCHOOLS, FCA.
CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'RE PRETTY DIRE.
THERE WERE RESTROOM REQUESTS THAT WAS A GROUPING OF RESTROOMS THAT NEEDED TO BE LOOKED AT AND WE DESIRED TO DO WORK IN.
AND THE ONE THAT WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH AT THIS TIME AS WELL, BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND WHO MAKES IT THE HOOP, IT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT WAS THE MOST CONVENIENT FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT OR FROM A PROJECT STANDPOINT? OH, FACTORS SUCH AS THAT.
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT BUILDING.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MAY HAVE POPPED UP TO BRING IT TO A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN OTHERS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT POPS IT UP AS A HIGH PRIORITY.
NOT THAT I KNOW OF OTHER THAN WE COULD FINISH OFF WELL BRANCH AND BE DONE WITH THAT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DOOR, THE POINT.
SO WE WERE THEN AT 34 VEHICLES AND FORKLIFTS, WHICH WENT BELOW THE LINE.
JUST BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THE BUILDING MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT MONITORS ALL THE AIR CONDITIONING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND ALSO MANAGES THOSE WALK-IN COOLER SO THAT THEY KNOW IF THAT SUDDENLY NOT WORKING AND ALARM GOES OFF.
SO IT'S NOT HPAC IS WALKING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL PART OF THE SAME THING.
IT'S ALL PART OF THAT SAME SYSTEM, A WASHER AND DRYER REPLACEMENTS.
WE REMOVED THAT 10 MOBILE CLASSROOMS, UM, AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MEETING, UM, PROBABLY SIX IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR, UH,
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UM, MAY RIVER.I CAN LOOK BLANK ON THAT NAME.
IT'S SIX LEVEL CLASSROOMS THAT MAY RIVER HIGH BECAUSE THEY ARE INSTEAD OF TO THE JRTC, CORRECT.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED EXISTING MOBILES FOR THAT.
THIS NEXT SECTION WOULD BE MANAGED MANAGEMENT GROWTH.
DO WE HAVE THAT ON THE REFERENDUM? THE T SEASONING? SO WE'RE BUYING $2.6 MILLION WITH A MOBILES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEM DESIGNED AND BUILT YET LIKE YOUR ROTC UNIT.
RIGHT? WE HAVE FUNDING FOR DESIGN.
WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE REFERENDUM, JUST THE DESIGN.
THERE WAS ONLY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER 700,000 OR, AND FOR THE CATE BUILDING EXPANSION.
WHAT THAT WAS FOR, I THOUGHT GERALD TO SEE WAS IN THAT.
NO, BUT NOW JRCC IS PART OF GATE.
SO IT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE OTHER FOUR, MOST LIKELY AT, UM, MCCRACKEN.
SO THEY ARE MOVING TO USE THE MOBILES THAT ARE ON SITE.
WE'RE DOING SOME OF THAT WORK TO GET THOSE READY FOR THIS YEAR.
BUT BASED ON THEIR GROWTH NUMBERS THERE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE NEXT TO MINE.
PRITCHARD VILLE WILL PROBABLY BE, YOU'LL SEE IT ON EXTRA SPLIT.
SO THEY WILL PROBABLY NEED MORE IF WE'VE NOT MOVED FORWARD WITH THE NEW SCHOOL.
SO, UM, DIGITAL MARK KEY IN FRONT OF MCCRACKEN GOT THAT ONE RECOMMENDED.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO ED TO DIGITAL WHERE IT'S KEY IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, BECAUSE WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT A SAFETY ISSUE? I MEAN, IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THEY WANT? I MEAN, I WILL SAY I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT AGING, THE CRACKING.
I MEAN, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THESE DIGITAL MARQUEES TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE THE DISTRICT DOES IT, OR IT DOESN'T DO IT, BUT NOT SCHOOL BY SCHOOL, UNLESS IT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE REASON FOR DOING RECOMMENDING THAT A VAST AND THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.
A LOT OF SCHOOLS HAVE ASKED AND DON'T HAVE ONE.
IN SOME CASES IT'S SITUATIONS WHERE WE CAN'T PUT THEM THERE.
BUT THE PROBLEM ON HILARY IS USUALLY EVEN IF IT'S A, UM, IF IT'S IN THE, UH, COUNTY, THEY'LL ALLOW US TO PUT THEM AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT ON THE ROAD, CITY OF BLUFFTON, YOU CAN PUT THEM ON THE ROAD.
UM, HILTON HEAD WON'T EVEN LET US PUT THEM OFF THE ROAD.
THEY WE'VE ALREADY ASKED THEM THAT.
AND HILTON HEAD SAYS WE CAN'T PUT A DIGITAL SIGN ANYWHERE ON THE CAMPUS.
EVEN IF IT'S WAY BACK DOWN A ROAD INSIDE THEIR ZONING ORDINANCE WILL NOT ALLOW US TO PUT THEM ANYWHERE.
UM, UH, MCCRACKEN, MCCRACKEN, WE WOULD NOT, WE CAN PUT IT THERE.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S IN OUR CAMPUS.
WE PUT IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THEY USED IT AS A COMMUNICATION BY SO, OH, I CAN SEE THAT NAME SUPER HANDY.
MY THING IS, RATHER THAN IF ALL THE SCHOOLS WANT ONE AND HILTON HEAD HAS TO DEAL WITH ITS OWN TOWN.
IF THEY CAN'T GET ONE, I HADN'T HEARD THAT HELEN HAD WANTED ONE AND I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE REQUEST LIST.
SO THIS IS NOT A HILTON HEAD REQUEST, BUT WE KIND OF JUST SHUT THEM DOWN BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T BUILD THEM THERE.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN AN ISSUE, BUT FOR THOSE SCHOOLS THAT WANT THEM, WHY DON'T WE BUDGET MONEY AND PUT THEM WHERE ALL THE SCHOOLS WANT THEM, NOT JUST WHERE GRANT THE WISHES OF THE SCHOOL THAT HAPPENS TO BE GETTING PAINTED.
WELL, IF THAT'S THE, WILL, THE BOARD WILL PUT THE MONEY IN TO PUT IT IN THERE.
HOW MANY, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST YOU? I MEAN, HOW MANY ALREADY HAVE THEM? I KNOW, UM, I HAVEN'T WE'D HAVE TO DO A STUDY AND BECAUSE I THINK WE DO NEED BETTER COMMUNICATION AND FOR SURE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF GETTING ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT AND WHATNOT, SO IF THAT'S GOING TO HELP AND PEOPLE WANT THEM, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THEM ALL AT ONCE? IT CAN'T MATTER THAT THEY'RE GETTING PAINTED, GETTING PAINTED.
I SAID, AC MCCRACKIN BECAUSE YOU WERE DOING, OH NO, THAT IS WE'RE SHOOTING.
RIGHT? SO IT DOES INVOLVE GETTING INTO ELECTRICAL PANEL AND DOING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO YES, IT'S GOING TO DISTURB THE FRONT AND EVERYTHING.
SO THE FACT THAT IT'S SHUT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S BEING PAINTED IS WHY THAT SIGNS IS ON THEIR LIST.
MAYBE IT'S JUST MY PERSONAL THING.
IF IT'S A GOOD THING, DO IT FOR ALL THE SCHOOLS.
THE DIFFERENCE IS YOU'VE GOT A CONTRACTOR ON THAT SITE DOING WORK.
SO IT'S MORE EFFICIENT TO DO WORK ON SITE WHERE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY, IT IS MORE DIFFICULT.
IF YOU DO SMALL PROJECTS ALL OVER THE DISTRICT, AS COMPARED TO FOCUSING ON ONE BUILDING AND KNOCKING OUT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
BUT IT GOES TO EQUITY, DOESN'T IT? I MEAN, IF ONE SCHOOL CAN COMMUNICATE WITH IT, STUDENTS AND ANOTHER SCHOOL CAN'T THEIRS.
AND I KNOW THAT EQUITY IS SOMETHING THAT THE CRPC MENTIONED AND THAT IT'S MENTIONED THE OES AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS SORT OF PIECEMEAL APPROACH TO THINGS.
IF THE DISTRICT DETERMINES THEM TO BE WORTH DOING AND DETERMINES IT TO BE IMPORTANT AND EVERYONE WANTS THEM, IT SEEMS INEQUITABLE TO ONLY
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DO THEM AT ONE SCHOOL.THE DISTRICT HAS NEVER WEIGHED IN ON WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD OR BAD.
MOST OF THEM HAVE COME IN BY REQUEST OF, CAN WE, OH, SOMEONE GOT ONE.
YOU'LL GET ASKED EVENTUALLY FOR ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS MY POINT, BUT JUST TIM, IT'S A GOOD THING.
AND THE DISTRICT THINKS IT'S WORTH SPENDING 40 GRAND ON.
IT'S WE SHOULDN'T JUST DO IT BECAUSE ONE SCHOOL ASKED FOR IT, YOU KNOW, BUT ANYWAYS, OKAY.
ADDITIONAL BAD SWIPE FOR 6,000.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO WITH THE CAFFEINE? UH, I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THE MARQUEES.
UM, I'VE NEVER WORKED IN A DISTRICT BEFORE WHERE THE DISTRICT PAID FOR THOSE.
THOSE WERE, UM, FUND RAISED BY THE, UM, UH, BY THE SCHOOL PAID FOR THOSE.
UM, IF WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE BACKED BY THE SCHOOLS, IF THE KIDS ARE RIDING THE SCHOOL BUSES, THE PARENTS, AREN'T SEEING THOSE FOR COMMUNICATION WITH THE WAY WE HAVE INTERNET AND EVERYTHING.
THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S A GOOD COMMUNICATION THING.
DOESN'T HURT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION TOOLS.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT DISTRICT MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON OTHER THINGS.
THANK YOU, MS. FREDERICK, MR. CAMPBELL, WHY WOULD WE DO SOMETHING THAT'LL FASHION ANYMORE? YEAH.
WHERE ARE THEY ASKING FOR THAT? WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.
I'M GOING TO SAY IT WAS AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE.
UM, CRACKING WAS, THEY WERE ASKING FOR IT IN OFF THE MOBILES.
WHY, WHAT DID THEY HAVE TO DO NOW? UM, I COULD BE WRONG.
SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, UH, NUMBER 39 TO THE DIGITAL.
MY THING IS, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT FOR ALL THE SCHOOLS OR NONE OF THE SCHOOLS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN OLD FASHIONED TECHNOLOGY AND WE SHOULD SPEND 40 GRAND ON SOMETHING ELSE.
I'M ABOUT TO TAKE THE MARQUEE OFF.
OH, SOUNDS LIKE WERE REMOVED TO ME.
UM, SO AS FAR AS BAD SWIPES GO, EVERY BUILDING HAS WE'VE ENSURE THEY HAVE A BADGE BASE OF EVERY SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A REQUEST AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE, UM, WHERE THEY ARE WANTING ANOTHER ONE ON A FACE OF A BUILDING DUE TO DISTANCE OR WHATEVER, BUT BIG FACULTY.
I MEAN, WHY DO YOU NEED TO SOMETIMES IT'S DISTANCE DON'T WELL, SCHOOLS LAST FROM ON EVERY DOOR.
SO REMOVING MS. REUBEN, YOU STILL HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE, UH, BADGE SWIPE.
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SCHOOL SECURITY AND KEEPING OUR BUILDINGS SECURE.
THE FEWER WE HAVE THE BETTER, UH, I THINK THAT BADGE SWIPES PEOPLE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S, THEY DON'T WANT TO COME IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE THEY PARKED SOMEPLACE ELSE, OR IT'S MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO BADGE SWIPE IN THE BACK.
BUT, UH, IS IT THE SAFEST WAY? YEAH, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS TO KATHY.
SO I'M OKAY TO PUSH THIS OFF AND THEN MAYBE PART OF A BROADER DISCUSSION.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS.
SHOULD WE GO, WHAT DO WE WANT TO CHANGE COURSE? BECAUSE I CAN JUST GO STRAIGHT TO WHAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAYBE THAT MIGHT, WE DO A FIVE PAGES WORK AND I'M JUST ALMOST FIVE 30.
WHAT TRISHA, WHY DON'T YOU START? OKAY.
SO I DO HAVE, UM, I DO WONDER ABOUT, OR STILL ON AGING MCCRACKEN, I'M WONDERING ABOUT LINES, UM, 51 52 AND 53 SECURITY AND SUN REFLECTION, WINDOWS WINDOW FILM FOR SECURITY AND SUN REFLECTION AND WINDOW UPGRADE.
SO TWO OF THE THREE ARE RECOMMENDED.
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THEY JUST ARE, THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME BEAST.ARE THEY THE SAME BEAST? I THINK ITEM 52, WE SORT OF COMBINED INTO THAT, REMOVE THAT AND SORT OF PUT IT WITH 51 51.
SO SECURITY IS SUN REFLECTION WINDOWS.
SO IT'S NOT THE SAME AS, OH, SO THAT'S 255,000 AND THEN THERE'S WINDOW UPGRADE FOR ABOUT 85,000.
SO YOU'RE TALKING 330 $340,000.
SO THE WINDOW UPGRADE, I BELIEVE KEVIN, IF I'M CORRECT IS FOR CERTAIN WINDOWS IN THAT BUILDING, THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE MORE THAN A REPAIR, BUT NOT QUITE A REPLACE YET.
SO WHAT'S AN UPGRADE MORE THAN A REPAIR, BUT NOT TO REPLACE.
THE MAJORITY OF THE WINDOWS OUT THERE ARE, ARE HIGH-QUALITY WINDOWS.
AND LIKE ROBERT JUST MENTIONED THE SEALS, WHETHER THEY BE AROUND THE WINDOW OR THE EXTERNAL PART, THE GLAZING NEEDS TO BE RE REPLACED.
THERE'S SEVERAL LEAKS AROUND THEM.
SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FILM FOR.
SO MY THING WITH THIS WHOLE LIST IS JUST GETTING TO WHAT'S A PRIORITY, RIGHT? AND WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE BOARD DOES A GOOD JOB OF PROVIDING PRIORITY.
AND I THINK YOUR GUYS' PRIORITY OF MAKING IT EFFICIENT AND SHUTTING OUT OF SCHOOL AND GETTING SO MUCH WORK, DONE A CERTAIN SCHOOL DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS JIVE UP WITH WHAT I'M SEEING FROM CONSTITUENTS AND FROM MY OWN PERSONAL SENSE OF DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE STUDENTS.
SO I'M GOING TO JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THIS ONE, THE FIELD HASN'T MCCRACKEN.
I LOOKED, I FOUND THE VIEW FOR 2019 FACILITIES ASSESSMENT.
THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE FIELD HOUSES ACCORDING TO THIS ASSESSMENT.
AND I MEAN, I KNOW FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ON MY SCHOOLS, THEY DON'T WANT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE FIELDS, BUT, UM, THEY HAD A THING ON HERE, STADIUM FACILITIES, FIELD HOUSES.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FIELDS.
SO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE, AND I THINK THAT WAS AT THE LAST DISCUSSION, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT HAD GOTTEN PUSHED.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A FIELD TIL THREE YEARS AGO.
UM, IT JUST GOES TO SORT OF, I DON'T LIKE THIS IDEA THAT WHEN WE CLOSED DOWN A SCHOOL, WE JUST SORT OF DO A BUNCH OF EXTRA STUFF BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT A FIELD HOUSE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE A REFERENDUM TYPE OF ISSUE AND IT SHOULD BE DISTRICT-WIDE.
SO THOSE ARE TRYING TO, MY TWO BIG CONCERNS IS THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS WITH A SENSE OF PURPOSE AND PRIORITY FOR THE STUDENTS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS FROM A WHOLE DISTRICT AND NOT FOCUSING ON ONE SCHOOL AT A TIME.
CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE HALF THE TIME WE GOT 35 SCHOOLS WHERE YOU GET BACK AROUND, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT TO UPGRADE WHAT WE'VE DONE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST CONSTANTLY PUTTING OUT LITTLE FIRES.
THE ONE POINT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND I THINK ROBERT MIGHT'VE BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER IS IF IT'S A PRINCIPAL REQUEST, WHETHER WE RECOMMENDED OR DON'T RECOMMEND IT, WE TRACK IT SO THAT THE PRINCIPAL REQUEST IS HEARD.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE PUSHED A LOT MORE OF THESE THINGS AND WE HAD, UM, IN THE LAST, UM, I DO WONDER ABOUT PAINTING HILTON HEAD ISLAND, HIGH SCHOOL FOR $800,000.
CAUSE I GUESS I WOULD GUESS THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE THEIR RESTROOMS FIXED, BUT, UM, WE CAN, MAYBE SINCE WE'RE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO BE, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN 2023, WHICH YOU'VE TOLD ME IS THAT WE'LL START RENOVATING THE SCHOOL IN 2024.
I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE HAD TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT ONE TOO.
SO IS THAT THE BEST USE OF A $730,000 TO PAINT HILTON HEAD ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL FOR NEXT SUMMER? NOT THIS NOT NEXT MONTH OR THIS YEAR, BUT NEXT SUMMER, WHEN WE ARE GOING TO HOPEFULLY START WITHIN TWO TO THREE YEARS, IT'D BE PORTIONS OF THAT BUILDING THAT WOULD REMAIN FOR, UM, SO IF WE START NEXT YEAR AND IT'S A FOUR YEAR PROCESS, YOU'D HAVE PARTS OF IT THAT, UM, WON'T HAVE BEEN PAINTED AT THAT POINT IN, WELL, THE COURT ORDERS WOULD HAVE BEEN PAINTED FOUR YEARS AGO.
CLASSROOMS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PAINTED, UH, IN, BY THAT TIME 12 YEARS.
WE CHOSE TO PAINT IT, EVEN THOUGH WE KNEW IT WAS COMING DOWN, BUT WE KNEW IT WOULD BE THERE TWO TO THREE YEARS PAINT.
IT MAKES A BIG, UM, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT A COUPLE YEARS FROM NOW, IF WE DON'T LEARN ABOUT IT FROM, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY YOU GOING TO COME BACK,
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UH, THAT DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL.I MEAN, I JUST, CAUSE WHAT WE WILL HEAR IS THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE REPLACING US, WE NEED TO BE TREATED LIKE ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS IS WHAT THEY WOULD TELL THAT THAT IS WHAT WE WERE HERE.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING THAT FOR A YEAR AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE RESTROOMS WOULD BE HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE PAINTING, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
SO I MEAN, MAYBE WE COULD PAINT THE RESTAURANT.
SO THE HILTON HAD RESTROOMS. UM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE PROBLEM THERE WAS WE DID, WE WENT IN AND LOOKED AT THEM AND THE PROBLEM WAS DUE TO THEIR DAY.
UH, THINGS LIKE SCREENS THERE WASN'T THE PROPER SPACING TO PUT SCREENS IN PLACE.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO PUT SCREENS UP WOULD BE TO TAKE FIXTURES OUT AND COMPLETELY REDO IT.
NOW WE CAN REVISIT THAT AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE RESTAURANT WITHOUT COMPLETELY REDOING THAT.
I WANT TO GET BACK INTO THE RESTAURANT DISCUSSION.
I'M JUST SAYING FROM A SENSE OF PRIORITY, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'LL CARE ABOUT IT.
AND I'M SAYING, YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT IT NOW BECAUSE THE RESTROOMS ARE FALLING APART.
LIKE AT WHAT POINT DO WE SPEND 700 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, PAY LADY'S ISLAND MIDDLE IS ALSO UP FOR PAINTING.
THAT'S ANOTHER, I MEAN TALK A MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A SHORT-TERM AESTHETIC BENEFIT.
REALLY? THAT WAS ON THIS LIST.
IT'S ON THIS LIST FOR A FAIRLY, I MEAN, THESE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE COST OF PAINTING IS EXPENSIVE.
SO FOR ME, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS JUST HOW ARE WE PRIORITIZING THESE THINGS? WE HAVE $25 MILLION, I THINK RECURRING COSTS, I THINK ASSET SAFETY AND SECURITY, EQUITY, EDUCATIONAL STUFF.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF JUST A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, LITTLE THINGS IN HERE, 25,000 HERE THAT I'M JUST NOT SURE.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FROM A BUILDING MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE WITH SCHOOL AND STUDENT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, RESTROOMS SHOULD TAKE PRIORITY OVER PAINTING.
I, I THINK THAT RESTROOMS HAVE A HEALTH ISSUE, HEALTH AND SAFETY IMPACT PAINTING DOES NOT, UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAD PAINT, A PAINTING DOES NOT.
UM, I, I DO, I DO THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE PAINTING SCHEDULE AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE, BUT WE HAVE, UM, OTHER THINGS HAVE CROPPED UP THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN KEEPING TO THAT PAINTING SCHEDULE.
THOSE ARE MY, MY THOUGHTS, MR. SMITH.
UM, WELL, MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO I GET WHAT I GET WITH, UH, WELL, MRS. ROBIN JUST SAID, UM, AND, AND IT WASN'T THE LAST BOARD MEETING OR THE BOARD MEETING PRIOR TO THAT, I DID A HEAR, OH, I'VE BEEN WITH ASHLEY, WE WERE GRABBING HER GRADUATION, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE SPEAKING WE HAD GRADUATION AND THE KIDS TALK ABOUT A BATHROOM.
SO, UM, THAT THE PROOF IS DEFINITELY IN THE PUDDING ON THAT, ON THAT SCENARIO.
BUT IN TERMS OF, OF, OF, OF PAINTING, YOU KNOW, I SEE SOME SUICIDES OF THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING PAINTING AND WHY IS IT BEING PAINTING, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TIME ON THAT, UH, IN REGARDS TO THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN A BUILDING THAT, THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS BAD THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S LESS DISTRACTING FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND THEN THAT ALSO DEALS WITH SCHOOL MORALE AND PRIDE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IN.
UM, WE NEED TO TAKE IN, UM, AND, AND THOUGHTS AS WELL AS WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
AND, UM, THE QUESTION IS, ARE ALSO WANTS AGAIN TO, UM, IF THEY, THAT MUST BE GOING TO GET INTO SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS ON THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. SMITH, MS. FREDRICKS, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, SO, UM, THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR NEXT SUMMER, WE'LL WE KNOW BY NEXT SUMMER, WHAT PARTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL IS STAYING? YOU JUST MENTIONED.
AND I MEAN, UM, YOU'D SEE THE DEMOLITION.
SO THE FIRST THING IN THE CURRENT PLAN THAT, UM, IF YOU SEE, IF YOU SEEN THE CURRENT PLAN, I HAVE NOT, OH, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THAT, OF COURSE, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK.
AND WE COULD, WE COULD IT'S ONLINE NOW, IF YOU WANT US TO WATCH THE VIDEO.
IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, IS IT, CAN WE TAKE HALF THIS PAINTING? CAN WE DO, CAN WE EAT THE PART THAT WE KNOW IS STAYING AND, AND, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THREE, YOU KNOW, TO MISS BOATWRIGHTS POINT, MS. ROBIN'S POINT HALF OF THIS AND PAINT HALF OF THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN START PUT $360,000 TO SOME MORE BATHROOMS, BECAUSE REALLY, AND TRULY WHEN,
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WHEN YOU HAVE DECREPITUDE SMELLY RUINOUS BATHROOMS IN A SCHOOL BUILDING, I, AS A TEACHER WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THAT BE FIXED INSTEAD OF PAINTED.SO IF I CAN JUST ANSWER THE PAINT TIMING, THE CURRENT PLAN WOULD HAVE US BUILDING THE NEW CAFETERIA BUILDING BEGINNING IN 24, THAT WILL TAKE AT LEAST A YEAR TO BUILD.
UM, SO WE'LL START DEMOING PART OF THE SCHOOL DOWN IN 25.
UM, THAT WILL BE THE NINTH GRADE AREA FIRST, UM, BY, AND THEN BY 26, THE REST OF IT WOULD START COMING DOWN.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAINTING IN 23.
SO BY 25, WHEN THAT WING COMES DOWN, IT WILL ONLY HAVE TWO YEARS.
THE 26TH WE'LL HAVE BEEN THERE THREE YEARS BY THE TIME IT COMES DOWN.
SO, UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST FOUR YEARS.
SO THE REST OF IT, WOULDN'T PROBABLY GET TOUCHED TILL 27.
UM, SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PARTS OF BUILDING.
IF YOU PAINT THEM NOW WILL BE THE, THE SHORTEST INDIAN WILL BE, THERE WILL BE TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY HURT IMPACTED.
YOU DON'T HAVE A SECTION BE THREE YEARS, THE SECTION BEFORE YEARS.
SO TAKE THE TWO YEAR PORT OUT.
YES, I'M GOING TO GET TO YOU IN ONE SECOND, BUT THE REASON PAINT CAFETERIA, WE'LL BE BACK ON THIS WHOLE THING.
THIS IS LIKE, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET AT THIS.
WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS TO ME, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE TO PAINT AND WE HAVE THIS SCHEDULE AND WE'RE CLOSING DOWN THE SCHOOL.
AND THAT MAKES SENSE FROM A BUILDING PERSPECTIVE, I'M TELLING YOU AS SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS THE CONSTITUENTS AND HAS A STUDENT IN SCHOOL, PAINT IS NOT A TOP PRIORITY.
AND THAT'S WHERE THERE'S SOME FRICTION GOING ON HERE.
SO ONE OF MY ISSUES IS I FEEL LIKE WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND APPROVE, BUT AS WE'VE ALREADY FOUND OUT, SOMETIMES WE APPROVE IT AND THEN THE PRIORITIES CHANGE.
AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO COME OUT IN CRITICAL, BUT IT DOES.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE CAN EITHER SAY, OKAY, LOOK, WE, THE BOARD'S AUTHORIZED IN $25 MILLION AND YOU GUYS FIGURE IT OUT.
YOU FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.
DO YOU WANNA DO IT BY SCHEDULE? DO YOU WANNA DO IT BY SCHOOL? DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND APPROVE STUFF.
AND I HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT PERSONALLY, AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR EVERYONE ELSE'S OPINION ABOUT THE PRIORITIES, BECAUSE TO ME, IT'S EDUCATIONAL EQUITY, IT'S ROOF AND HPAC IT'S BATHROOMS. IT'S NOT PAINTING AND, YOU KNOW, STARE RUBBER STAIR RISERS, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THESE LITTLE PROJECTS THAT KIND OF COME ALONG, THAT ONE SCHOOL GETS DONE ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE FROM MY PERSONAL STANDPOINT, AND I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING EVERYBODY ELSE'S OPINION.
I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE MONEY AND IT'S YOUR CALL.
CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE REALLY, YOU KNOW, GREAT POLICY ABOUT THIS STUFF.
OR IF WE'RE GOING TO GO, I FEEL LIKE THE PRIORITIES HERE DON'T REALLY REFLECT WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT.
AND THIS IS WHAT I MEAN, I HEAR ABOUT MORE THAN ANYTHING.
I DON'T HEAR ABOUT CURRICULUM.
I HEAR ABOUT THE FACILITIES ALL THE TIME.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME UP AND YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU WALK INTO A SCHOOL, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
SO, UM, MR. SMITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION? YOUR HAS YOUR HANDS UP? UH, YES I DO ACTUALLY.
UM, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
UM, BUT THE, THE, THE, THE ONLY THING ABOUT IT IS, IS IT, FOR INSTANCE, THAT THAT PAINT COULD BE GOING IN THAT BATHROOM, I GUESS, I GUESS THAT WILL BE A BATHROOM PROJECT.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME PERCEPTION IS PERCEPTION IS REALITY.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID.
I AGREE WITH IT, BUT WITH ACTUALLY WHAT THE NEXT STEP, WHAT THE NEXT SESSION, THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE VOTED ON IS WHAT WORK SHOULD BE DONE.
THE WORK SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED AND IT SHOULD NOT BE ALTERED.
AND I GUESS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IS ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT IS OUR JOB MORE BECOMING ALL OF US AS BOARD MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
OH, I MISSED IT, MADE THE MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT DOES HAPPEN IN THAT ANYTHING ELSE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
UH, AND IN REGARDS TO THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE STEWARDS OF, OF, OF THE, OF THE DISTRICT.
SO, UM, WOULD THAT, I, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING MORE OF ABOVE A BOARD FUNCTION IN THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, UH, DOING THAT, THAT, THAT PART IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT.
ISN'T IT IMPORTANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FACILITIES AND UPKEEPING OF BUILDINGS A WHOLE, A WHOLE LOT.
UM, AND ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT I, I SENT THAT IS, THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS DEEMED RESPONSIBILITY.
ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COMMITTEE, HOW,
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HOW, HOWEVER, JUST TO GET, TO GET TO THE POINT, I WANT TO SAY WHY, WELL, BASICALLY I AGREE WITH A LOT OF BIBLE SHIT, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE OF, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE FACT OF JUST GIVING THEM THE 2,500 OFF, BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING AND HIGHEST HAS BEEN SPENT.I THINK THAT WE DO TOO MUCH OF JUST GIVING IT, GIVING SOMEONE THAT'S, THAT'S JUST NO, NO DIFFERENT TO GIVING SOMEBODY A $25 CHECK AND TELL THEM, JUST GO, GO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN? THAT IS THAT THIS IS THE WAY WE DO IT.
NOT AS A GOOD CHECK AND BALANCE SYSTEM TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT.
SO MY ONLY THOUGHT WE KNOW THAT PARTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL WILL BE COMING DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
SO I REALLY HAVE SOME GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PAINTING THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S TIME FOR LATEST ISLAND MIDDLE THERE'S.
NO DECISION HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT LATEST ISLAND METAL, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST HALF OF THIS PAINT OR LEAVE, YOU KNOW, TRANSFERRED TO RESTROOMS, FIXING RESTROOMS. YEAH.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WELL, I'M AGREEING WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I AGREE THAT PROCESSES FLORIDA FOR PLACE.
AND I STILL KEEP GETTING TWICE AS MANY PROJECTS THAT NEEDED TO BE RAISED OR PUSHED DOWN OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THAT.
WE NEED TO FIND EITHER A DIFFERENT WAY OF A LOT OF MONEY FOR THOSE THINGS LIKE PAINTING AND OTHER THINGS TO BE DONE AS NEEDED OR WITH A REGIMENT OR WHATEVER.
AND IT PRESENTS FOR DOING REAL OTHER IS, AND OTHER TYPE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO ME, WE GET BOGGED DOWN AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS THINGS WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PAY.
AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT, IS THAT GOING TO BE MONEY TO PAINT AND ALL THAT STUFF? THEN I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIX THAT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO TRUST WHAT ROBIN AND THEM DECIDE IS THE BEST WAY TO GO FORWARD AND MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES AT BEST WITH THE MONEY WE ALL AUDIT AT THIS POINT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT LAST TIME WE MET TOO.
BUT, UH, OUR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PICK YOU DIDN'T SAMPLING LAST TIME.
YOU'RE YOU PICK THROUGH THIS THING AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO ANY CONCLUSION ON THE WHY'S AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO ANY WHO'S, YOU KNOW, WHO'S RIGHT.
WHO'S WRONG ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
AS YOU GO HAVE THE BACKGROUND, ASK YOU, BUT HAVE THE STUDENTS SAYING THE WALLS NEED PAINTING, AND YOU HAVE TO SAY HIS BATHROOM AND, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PROPER DECISION WITHOUT HEARING FROM THEM, AT LEAST WITHOUT NOT ANTICIPATING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT FROM THE PAINTING, BUT THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S WHERE WE DECIDED TO GO.
AND I THINK, AND I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS PROCESS OF HOW WE FEED.
IT'S JUST GOT TOO MANY THINGS IN THERE THAT COULD BE DONE THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING TO GET DONE.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S MY THING IS I THINK WE'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE COULD DO.
AND WE WERE DOLING ABOUT 25 MILLION AT A TIME.
AND I DON'T THINK THE BOARD, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT US, THE BOARD, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, WHEN WE STRUCTURED THIS WHOLE THING, WE DIDN'T GIVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF PRIORITIES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND ARGUE OVER $17,000 FOR STAIRCASE COVERINGS.
I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND SEMINAR.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE PRIORITIES, WHICH I THINK IS EDUCATIONAL, WHICH I THINK IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ALL THE ROOF SHOULD BE FIXED BEFORE WE DO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE KIDS SHOULD HAVE HPAC BEFORE WE DO SOME OF OTHER THINGS.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE CLASSROOM.
I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS REMOVED, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE KIND OF BEEN SITTING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARDS, THREE DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARDS, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S 8% PROJECTS OR IF WE HAD ALL OUR ROOFS FIXED AND ALL OUR HPAC AND FLOORS AND DECENT FURNITURE AND CLEAN RESTROOMS, AND WE GOT, AND THEN WE STILL HAD MONEY.
WE CAN LOOK AT DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARDS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, IT IS IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S PAINFUL FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
BUT THEN I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS 25 MILLION AND I'M LIKE, WAIT, ARE WE, I THINK TRISHA'S BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES.
DO HAVE THE STUDENTS ALL GOT THEIR HPAC, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST SORT OF FEEL LIKE RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE, WHICH IS A TEDIOUS AND TIME-CONSUMING, UM, EXERCISE,
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WE CAN JUST VOTE 25 MILLION WITH SOME PRIORITIES, OR I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT.JUST SAY WHAT YOU GUYS RECOMMEND IS FINE.
YOU KNOW, JUST SPECIFICALLY AGAIN, LINE 82 WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND, HIGH SCHOOL, WE'VE USED THE MANTRA.
THAT WAS CERTAIN THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN DONE THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AND NOW, YOU KNOW, 7 27 IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST LINE ITEM NUMBERS AND ALL OF THIS.
AND I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY THEN, I MEAN, THAT JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT CRITERIA, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW THE IS COMING DOWN, BUT LET'S PUT BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S ON THE PLAN INSTEAD OF, UM, SO I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU WERE, IF I WERE REMODELING MY HOUSE, I WOULDN'T GO THROUGH AND START PAINTING THE WHOLE THING, ESPECIALLY IF I KNEW HALF OF IT WAS COMING DOWN INTO THREE YEARS.
UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT TRANSFER TO THESE RESTROOMS PROBLEM WITH THE RESTROOMS IS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT.
SO WE HAVE EIGHT OTHER PRIORITY SCHOOLS HAVE RESTROOMS. I'M NOT JUST TALKING, I'M NOT JUST TALKING HILTON, HEAD ISLANDS, YOU KNOW, UM, RESTROOMS, NOT JUST, I MEAN, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING IN, IS THERE ONE OF THE EIGHT PRIORITY SCHOOLS IT'S ON THIS LIST? SO IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE THERE, AS I SAID, WE CAN REVISIT IT AND TRY TO FIND WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO REMODEL THOSE, WHAT THE BUILDING'S COMING DOWN OR PART OF THE BUILDINGS COMING DOWN.
SO I JUST THINK THAT WHEN WE, WE HAVEN'T CRITERIA FOR NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT, THAT HAS TO FOLLOW THROUGH FOR THAT ENTIRE PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING THERE.
THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK WHEN MY, THE QUESTIONS I WAS TRYING TO FIND RECOMMENDED, BUT YOU KNOW, THE COVERED MCCRACKEN COVERED WALKWAY FROM ATHLETIC EXIT TO MOBILES.
WHY IS THAT MORE IMPORTANT THAN GETTING THE ELEVATORS UP TO CODE, RIGHT? LIKE THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
AND JUST, THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW.
THERE'S NO WAY TO GO THROUGH HERE AND PICK IT, ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU GUYS, WE HAVEN'T BEEN FAIRS AS THE BOARD TO GIVE YOU GUYS PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, SO TO SAY, ELEVATORS COME AHEAD OF COVERED WALKWAYS AND WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS.
SO I'M JUST A LITTLE FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS.
CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING SOME PROJECTS ON HERE THAT ARE KIND OF JUST NICE THINGS BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO BE SHUTTING DOWN THAT SCHOOL AND WE'RE KIND OF NEGLECTING BIGGER AND MORE URGENT PROJECTS, UM, THAT GO MORE TOWARDS WHAT I THINK THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON OR THE SCHOOL BOARD IS FOCUSED ON.
SO YEAH, WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LEAVES US.
I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THAT'S NOT THEIR PURVIEW FOR ELEVATORS.
OH, I THINK THAT'S EVERY REVIEW.
I MEAN, WE RELY ON THEM TO MAKE THAT KIND OF DECISION.
I HOPE THE SAME THING WITH THE PAINTING AND THE EIGHT YEAR PLAN, IT WAS EIGHT YEAR PLAN AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY HIM AGES EIGHT MORE YEARS, EIGHT MORE YEARS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SCHOOL LEVEL FOUR MORE YEARS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A SCHOOL THERE.
THEN THAT'S ALSO A DECISION THAT YOU MUST MAKE IN TERMS OF THE EFFECT OF BANKS.
I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH THE COMPLAINT IS.
IT'S WHETHER YOU BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE DOLLAR TERMS OF THAT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE DECISIONS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE IS GOING TO BE FROM THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S COMING, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT.
THINGS OF THAT SCHOOL IS ABOUT TO BE TORN DOWN AND EVERY LITTLE THING GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, GOING TO BE A COMPLAINT.
BUT THAT'S ALSO A PART OF THE PROCESS OF WE MOVE IN A SCHOOL WITH A SCHOOL THERE AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I THROW AWAY A MILLION DOLLARS JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE THROWING AWAY.
JUST SO YOU DON'T HEAR PEOPLE GRUMBLE.
WELL, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THEY WOULD GRUMBLE WITH THE PAINTING, JUST GIVEN THE
SO LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING IN TERMS OF THE DOLLARS SO THAT WHEN THINGS COME UP LATER, WE, YOU GOT THAT MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T WASTE.
I'M HAPPY TO MAKE IT SOMEBODY ELSE'S PURVIEW, BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN REALLY FIGURE OUT THE VALUE OF ALL THESE THINGS.
AND I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A THING HERE.
THERE'S A SAME THAT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND SECURITY, UM, AND, UM, BASICS SEEDS BACK ROOFS LEAKING CAROL.
WE SAW SOME OF THOSE ROOFS THAT WERE LEAKING ONTO THE SIDES OF WALLS AND THAT'S THE COMPUTER, A LOT OF COMPUTERS RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, SO YOU SEE OUR CPRC, CPRC
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ACTUALLY PUT, MADE PRIORITIES, SAFETY, AND SECURE NUMBER ONE, REPLACEMENT SCHOOLS, NUMBER TWO ADDITIONS, WHICH IS, GOES TO EDUCATIONAL EQUITY AND CAPACITY, RIGHT? RENOVATIONS, TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN KATE THEN FURNITURE, THEN ATHLETICS, THEN PLAYGROUNDS PARKING, THEN PARKING LOT DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALKS.UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO THERE IS SOME, THERE ARE, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT AS A BOARD.
WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED REALLY MUCH IN THE WAY OF GUIDANCE ON THIS.
UM, BUT I PREFER THIS SCENARIO RATHER THAN WE'RE GOING TO DO A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS AT, AT THESE 10 SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING SUMMER WORK, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONSTANT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LONG-WINDED DISCUSSIONS COME IN.
SO I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, WE COULD JUST, UM, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO APPROVE SPECIFIC PLANS.
ARE WE SPECIFIC? I CAN'T IMAGINE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS SITTING HERE AND GOING, YEAH, NO.
WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD TO ACCEPT THE 8% PROJECTS.
SO THAT TYPICALLY WHAT COMES OUT OF OPERATIONS? I DON'T THINK MY, I E OUR SYSTEM WILL, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK IF YOU DIDN'T IMPROVE A LIST OF PROJECTS.
IF YOU JUST SAID, I CAN TELL YOU FINANCE BETWEEN US AND FINANCE, WE WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW FINANCE WOULD DEAL WITH THAT.
WHAT'S THE POINT OF APPROVING PROJECTS IF THEY DON'T EVEN GET DONE.
I MEAN, WHEN ALL SAID AND DONE THAT IS, UM, ABOUT CONTROLS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON AND PRESENT THE NEXT MEETING IS A FORMAT OF REPORTING ON PROJECT STATUS SO THAT YOU CAN BE MORE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROJECT.
I LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE CHANGED AND GREENVILLE DID HAVE, THEY WANTED TO BUY.
AND THEY JUST BASICALLY SAID, OKAY, WE WANT TO DO ALL THE DOORS IN THE DISTRICT THAT NEED DOING SO WE, THEY ASSESSED ALL THE EXTERIOR DOORS IN THE DISTRICT.
IT SAID, IT'S GOING TO COST THIS MUCH.
AND IT WAS APPROVED THAT TO ME.
AND IT'S MORE LIKE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT TO ME, I CAN APPROVE.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO APPROVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE IS THAT REFERENDUM OR 80%.
CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MORE HOW WE DID THE REFERENT.
OF COURSE WE HAD THE LIST OF PROJECTS.
BUT I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THE MCA DATA GOING FORWARD, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY.
JUST LIKE YOU'RE SEEING THESE LITTLE RESTROOM PRIORITIES AND THE FLOORING PRIORITIES.
YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASSESSING EVERY SINGLE EXTERIOR DOOR IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO NEED REPLACING AT SOME POINT.
SO AS WE GO FORWARD IN CHANGING THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS BASED OFF THIS FACILITY, CONDITION ASSESSMENT, YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT KIND OF THING RUSHED AT THE TOP.
CAUSE I'M NOT A FAN OF THE WAY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A CRITICISM.
I'M HEARING YOU WANTING US TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
AND OF COURSE, AFTER THE FCA ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT, LIKE THIS IS THE PROJECT, THIS MONEY WILL GO TO NOT, NOT WHERE WE HAVE IT SET UP.
NOW IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS SPECIFIC DATA UPFRONT.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SPECIFIC DATA.
NOW THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE, AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 25 MILLION AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 80 MILLION IN SAFETY SECURITY SPELLED OUT WITH THESE ELEVATORS, THESE FLOORS, THESE, THE FIRE ALARMS. AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT AT ALL, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION.
WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT THEN THAT'S THE TIME.
AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WITH, I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT KIND OF TEMPLATE THAT THEY ARE OUT THERE AS WELL IS FACILITIES CONTROL, BUT HOW ARE YOU PROTECTING OUR FACILITIES OVERALL? AND IF THE SECURITY IS AN OUTLIER IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL THING, THEN THE FOCUS THEN SHOULD BE ON THE OTHER STUFF THAT THE 25 MILLION CAN COVER.
AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF REFERENDUM OR SOMETHING TO COVER THAT 80 MILLION, IF IT'S DONE TO BE THAT NUMBER, OF COURSE, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IF IT IS A BIG NUMBER THAT'S GONNA THROW EVERYTHING ELSE OUT AND, YOU KNOW, POINT IN SECURING BUILDINGS, THAT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA COLLAPSE EVENTUALLY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO THE OTHER THINGS.
THAT'S WHY THE OTHER THINGS IN MY MIND SHOULD BE PRIORITY LISTS THAT YOU COME UP WITH LOOKING AT ALL THIS, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS JUST FRIVOLOUS AND REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE A PART OF SYLVIA'S IMPROVEMENT.
WELL, THAT'S, I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS LIST IS THAT WE'RE BASICALLY DOING A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS BECAUSE THE PR YOU SAID, BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR IT AT A SCHOOL THAT HAPPENS TO BE SHUT DOWN.
AND I'M LIKE, WE GOT $25 MILLION, WE GOT $80 MILLION OR HOWEVER MUCH IT IS AND ESCAPE SECURITY
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AND THESE OTHER HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT MORE HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND ARGUE, BUT IT DOES FRUSTRATE ME THAT WE'RE SPENDING $17,000 ON RUBBER STARE RAISERS AND NOT DOING SOME, YOU KNOW, NOT DOING THIS OVER HERE OR WHATEVER THESE, YOU KNOW, I COULD GO THROUGH AND GIVE A BUNCH OF EXAMPLES.BUT TO ME, IT'D BE MUCH BETTER.
WE'VE GOT, WE FOUND THIS BIG CHUNK OF SECURITY.
THIS IS HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS WE'RE NOT, AND THEN THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS SUMMER.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOME OF THESE LITTLE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND JUST PULLING THEM UP, BUT YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND OH YEAH.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SAY, I DO AGREE WITH, I SAID, NO DOORS.
HEY, MR. SMITH, UM, WHEN YOU CHECK YOUR PHONE, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
UM, AND WE'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.
I'LL WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS, UH, NOT IN TERMS OF WHAT, UH, MR. ALVIN WAS SAYING ABOUT, UM, ABOUT W W YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WOULD FIX THE, UH, WELL, AND CONTINUE TO PUT YOUR HAND DOWN, PUT IT BACK UP WHEN YOU GET THE BETTER WE CAN, MAYBE YOU COULD SAY, YEAH.
I MEAN, BASICALLY RUN THAT THROUGH FINANCE.
I, I WAS NEW TO IT AND THAT'S WHY, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I CAN HEAR ME.
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU SOUND VERY ELECTRONIC AND DRUG OUT.
WE CAN'T HEAR THE, I MEAN, LIKE YOUR VOICE IS DRAGGED OUT.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS POSSIBLY IS WE JUST, YOU KNOW, APPROVE $25 MILLION.
THE OTHER THING IS, IT SEEMS LIKE SO MUCH OF THIS IS CONTINGENT ON THE FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT, RIGHT.
SO CAN WE JUST APPROVE $25 MILLION AND THEN CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT AND SEE IF THAT IMPACTS SOME OF THIS STUFF.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A SPECIFIC LIST.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY FRUSTRATION IS HERE.
YOU KNOW, THE SECOND TIME GOING AROUND IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE LIST AND WE BROKE NECESSARILY THAT, WHICH IS BEING COMPLETED.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, BUT JUST SEEMS, YOU KNOW, PRICES ARE CHANGING.
I MEAN, MY GOODNESS FROM ESTIMATED ONE, 400 SOMETHING.
SO THE OTHER THING IS THE REFERENDUM COMING, LIKE, I KNOW PARKING LOTS ARE ON, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT PUSHED OR REMOVED.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S ON THE, LIKE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUT ON THE REFERENDUM THAT MAYBE ARE ON THIS LIST THAT THEN WOULD GET SHUFFLED AROUND.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, SO YOUR CONCERN IS THAT IF WE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE AN 8% SPENDING OF $20 MILLION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, IT HAS TO BE THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE THE FCA IS COMING OUT AND IT MIGHT COME BACK.
IS THERE NOT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT COMPARED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS? I WISH TANYA WAS HERE.
SHE WAS ON FOR MOST OF THE, WITH FINANCE, BECAUSE WE CAN GET TALK AND SEE IF, BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO BUILD A BUDGET BASED OFF OF THAT 25 MILLION.
BUT YOU GUYS JUST CHANGED THE SPENDING ANYWAYS.
BUT THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY AND JUST SPENDING.
SO I SAID, YOU SAID THAT THEY CHANGED THE SPENDING AS THEY CHANGED.
WHAT HAS BEEN VOTED ON, COULD YOU, CLAIRE, COULD YOU GIVE ME CLARIFICATION ON THAT? WELL, ALSO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WITH INFLATION, THE BREACH, HER SURFACING OF TENNIS COURTS WENT FROM 178
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TO 427,000.SO RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS VERY HARD TO SET A BUDGET FOR ANYTHING.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE TO FINANCE, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD SET ASIDE $17,000 FOR RUBBER STAIR RAISERS, AS OPPOSED TO WE'VE GOT $25 MILLION.
AND AS THE DATE GETS CLOSER AND MAYBE THINGS COME UP THAT WE NEED TO ADD THAT JUMPED PRIORITY BECAUSE IT BREAKS.
I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF DOING PLANNING ALL THE PROJECTS AND BUDGET A YEAR IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS IN PAST YEARS, PRINCIPALS AND, AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
SO THERE'S A, THAT'S THE TRANSPARENCY PART OF IT BECAUSE THAT YOU BUDGET.
AND YOU SAID THAT THESE OTHER PROJECTS, UH, THIS SCHOOL, THAT SCHOOL D THESE FIVE SCHOOLS, OR, OR HOW MANY OF THE SCHOOLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING 8% WON'T WORK DONE.
AND SO THEREFORE THAT'S A WAY THAT PEOPLE THAT CAN REALLY, UH, UH, ARE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WORK IS GETTING DONE, BUT ALSO THE BUILDING ADMINISTRATORS, AND ALSO THE SUPERINTENDENT ALSO AS BOARD MEMBERS THAT THAT'S WORK, THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO GET DONE.
SO RARELY GET DONE THAT RARELY GET DONE AND DIFFERENT.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT HOOPS AND, UH, HURDLES TO CLIMB.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT OUR COMPONENT OF IT.
BUT KNOWING THAT, THAT WE HAVE SET FORTH TO PUT THE ACTUAL ACT, THE ACTION, TO GET THESE, TO GET THE WORK DONE.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE PROCESS CHANGES THOUGH.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WAS A PART OF LIFE THAT THAT'S LIKE SAYING, WHY ARE YOU JUMPING IN THE CAR? AND YOU INTEND TO GO TO A MEETING, BUT YOU GET HIT IN THE DAY.
YOU SHOULD HAVE, THE JAIL HAS TO HAVE GET DRESSED, WASH.
I MEAN, GET UP AND WASH UP AND GET DRESSED AND JUMP IN THE CAR TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE MEETING.
BUT YOU CAN'T ANTICIPATE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT ALONG THE WAY.
SO, I MEAN, SO DO YOU NOT JUMP IN THE CAR AND GO, SO, YOU KNOW, SO, SO NO, I TH THIS OUTLINE IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
THAT TO ME, THERE IS A MIRROR STUFF, BECAUSE THESE ARE THERE, THERE ARE PARTS OF IT THAT, THAT IS MEASURABLE AT THIS TIME TO JUST GIVE IT TO JUST GIVE THE MONEY, SAY, HEY, YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.
THAT, TO ME, THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY, MY, MY, MY OPINION OF IT.
I, I THINK THAT IT'S VERY CRITICAL, VERY CRITICAL TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE MONEY'S BEING SPENT ON WHAT IS BEING SPENT AND WHO WHO'S GETTING, WHO'S GETTING WHAT, SO EVERYTHING IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH MR. SMITH, I THINK VOTING TO SPEND $25 MILLION TO NOT HAVING A LIST OF PROJECTS IS JUST, IS HOLLOW.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANY VALUE AT ALL, IF YOU WANT IT TO LAY UNTIL AFTER.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT SCALE SEEMS TO BE PIVOTAL, BUT, UM, IF YOU WANT TO DELAY UNTIL AFTER THAT TO COME UP WITH A LIST, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE, BUT, BUT JUST APPROVING 25 MILLION IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME.
THAT'S HOW I WAS THINKING IS, OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING WAS TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
AND ALSO WE'LL BE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON REFERENDUM, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD NEED TO DECIDE ALL THIS A YEAR IN ADVANCE.
CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE CHANGING ANYWAYS.
SO DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR A BIG AMOUNT OF OUT? UM, THE ONE ISSUE IS THAT, UM, AS I BELIEVE TANYA MENTIONED IN OUR LAST MEETING IN ORDER TO BUY, TO BORROW THE 25 MILLION, WE HAVE TO, UH, WE DO THE BOND.
UH, THEY SIT THE MILLAGE AHEAD OF TIME AND WE BORROW, UH, DURING THE YEAR, UM, THE STATE, THE AUDITOR STATE, THE COUNTY AUDITOR HAS SAID FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT LIST TO HIM BY THE END OF JUNE, OR HE WILL NOT SET THAT MILLAGE.
LIKE IF WE JUST TELL THEM WE'RE GOING TO BORROW 20, HOPEFULLY THAT'S TANYA, ALL RIGHT.
SHE CAN JUMP IN AND TAKE OVER.
THEY WILL NOT LET US HELP THEM THAT AHEAD OF TIME NOW.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SET BY THE END OF JUNE.
DO YOU HAVE WHATSAPP JUST THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A BORROWING OF 25 MILLION OR YOU ACTUALLY SEND THE PROJECT LIST TO STATE AUDITOR? I MEAN, COUNTY AUDITOR, WE WOULD JUST SAY THE AMOUNT OF TANYA OR IF YOU WERE THERE.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO APPROVE A, JUST SAY THAT, UH, $25 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS WITHOUT HAVING A COMPLETE PROJECT LIST AND WHAT ISSUES WOULD THAT CAUSE IF THEY DID THAT WELL, UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
UM, WE WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, SO THAT WOULD CAUSE SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH,
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UM, OUR BUDGETING'S A PROCESS BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED A DEFINITIVE LIST OF WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING.SO WITH THE MONEY, YOU'RE ALSO APPROVING A LIST OF PROJECTS AS WELL, SO OF WHICH WE WOULD BUDGET FOR AND ENSURE THAT WERE COMPLETED OR, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT OVERSPENDING OR WHATEVER.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO DO.
UM, I DIDN'T HEAR THE ENTIRE, I DIDN'T HEAR THE DISCUSSION, SO I DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT OF THE QUESTION, BUT, UM, GENERALLY WITH THE MONEY, THE APPROVAL OF THE LIST COMES AS WELL.
NOW YOU COULD HAVE PRELIMINARY OR IS THE PURPOSE TO HURRY UP AND GET THE APPROVAL MADE BEFORE THE AUDITOR'S DEADLINE.
AND THAT'S PRIOR TO THE FCA, THE FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS MITCHELL IN ORDER TO ISSUE BONDS, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON WHAT PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETING, SO THAT THOSE ARE THEN COLLATERAL FOR THE BONDS.
SO I, I WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO ASK FOR ANY HEIZER, UM, THE LEGAL QUESTIONS, IF THERE'S ANY AMBIGUITY WE COULD HAVE LIKE A LITTLE BIT, DO WE NEED EVERY SINGLE SPOT I COULD CHECK WITH HER.
THIS IS THE VENTURE FOR YOU, THE OES THAT WE DON'T REALLY GIVE ANY GUIDANCE TO THE RESULTS TYPE OF THING, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO KEEP US OUT OF BASICALLY GOING LINE BY LINE AND LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD DO AN EXTRA BADGE SWIPE AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT OUR OES ARE SUPPOSED TO KEEP US FROM DOING, BUT I DON'T THINK ROE PROVIDE MUCH GUIDANCE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY RESULTS THAT WE CAN POINT TO.
SO WHAT AS INCOHERENT GOVERNANCE, WHAT GUIDES THIS PROCESS FOR US? I THINK COHERENT GOVERNANCE TELL US THAT WE SHOULD RELY ON THE EXPERTS.
THESE ARE OPERATIONAL DECISIONS, AND WE SHOULD LEAVE IT TO THE OPERATIONS PEOPLE TO DECIDE, BUT AS HUMAN NATURE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.
MAYBE WE SHOULD BE A LITTLE CLEARER ON OUR PRIORITIES.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ALSO, AND WE APPROVED THE LIST AND THEN AFTER THE FCA MODIFY THE LIST, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO WE CAN, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN CHANGE YOUR CLIENT BECAUSE WE APPROVED THE LIST OF UNCHANGED AFTERWARD.
THE DIFFERENCE IS WHAT WAS APPROVED ON THE LIST WAS A RENOVATION OF RESTROOMS. WE ARE RENOVATING REST.
I'M JUST SAYING WE, I MEAN, SO THE SCA MAY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE MAY DECIDE OUT OF IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO MORE FIRE ALARM OR, OR MORE ELEVATORS.
WELL, THAT'S NOT ON THIS, UNLESS YOU APPROVE THE ELEVATOR ITEM AND THEN WE COULD STILL DO ELEVATOR.
I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY THAT PRIORITY IS GOING TO OVERSHADOW.
YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS THE PRIORITY HERE WHEN THAT'S THE BOARD'S PURVIEW, WHEN THEY COME WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S NOT, IT PERCENT DIRECTIVES FOLLOWING ME.
I'M SAYING, THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE ARE, RIGHT.
THE C C AND THEN WE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT FROM WHAT THEY RECOMMEND.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING RIGHT NOW IS MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO, WELL, I DON'T, YOU CAN MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT DAY, YOU GET THAT FOR THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT, HAVE A GOOD FOUNDATION BEFORE THAT COMES, THEN WE REALLY TRY TO BROWSE RISES.
SO WHY DON'T WE COME UP WITH A LIST OF ABC PROJECTS WHERE AI IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THE PROJECTS TO BE DONE, AND IS THAT NOT WHAT THE FCA IS GOING TO BE DOING FOR US? ISN'T THAT FACILITIES, CONDITION ASSESSMENT GOING TO SHOW US SOME WHERE THE GREATEST NEEDS ARE.
AND SO THAT WILL ONLY THEN BE ABLE TO INFORM OUR 20, 24, 8%.
IF, IF MS. CROSBY JUST SAID, IS THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AS COLLATERAL FOR THESE BONDS, A PROJECT LIST, AND THAT WHICH CAN BE TRACKED THEN REALLY THIS FCA, WHICH IS
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NOT COMING OUT UNTIL JULY OR AUGUST, RIGHT.OR SOME, YOU KNOW, LATER IN THE SUMMER WILL INFORM OUR 20, 24, 8%, RIGHT? IT'S ON SOME ITEMS WE ARE USING THAT DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE TO MAKE HELP MAKE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS NEXT.
UM, WE HAVE A BLUEPRINT ALREADY WHEN THEY COME OUT, SO WE CAN OVERLAP WHERE WE MAP, WHAT THEY'VE, WHAT THEY'VE DIRECTED AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE OR NEEDS TO DO THE NEXT YEAR.
YOU GOT YOUR LIST ALREADY CHECK OFF IS FROM A LIST OF, LET'S SAY A C PROJECT DIDN'T GET DONE.
THEN THAT C PROJECT WAS A C PROJECT IN FIRST PLACE.
AND B PROJECTS ON THE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE SAYING, AND I, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US A GOOD TRACKING SYSTEM AND TURNS TO, TO SEE YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS.
I PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BE DONE IF IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT THAT'S, I THINK THIS IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH FOR US, AS OPPOSED TO US COMING UP WITH IT FOR YOU.
SO BASICALLY MS. CROSBY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO APPROVE A PROJECT LIST, CORRECT? UM, WELL, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM MS. HEIZER, UM, IN ORDER TO DEFINITIVELY TELL YOU THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UM, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE DO THOSE PROJECTS DO SERVE AS COLLATERAL, BUT I THINK THEY MAY BE, THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC LISTING THAT'S PROVIDED TO BOND BUYER, PEOPLE WHO BUY OUR BONDS, UM, THAT IS USED WITH A SPECIFIC LIST OF THINGS WITH DOLLAR AMOUNTS OR ANYTHING TO THAT NATURE, IF THERE'S GENERALLY BROAD CATEGORIES.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT WE COULD ISSUE, YOU KNOW, 25 MILLION OF BONDS, AND THEN COME BACK, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT DETAILED LISTING AND MATCH IT UP WITH THE 25 MILLION.
AND THEN THERE'S THE MATTER ALSO OF THE UNUSED ROLE.
UH THERE'S I BELIEVE I BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, IN, UM, MARCH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE, UH, UNUSED 8% PROJECT LIST AS WELL, OR UNUSED UNUSED FUNDS LEAVE.
SO WHETHER THAT'S USED FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR ROLLED INTO ANOTHER BOND TO LOWER, LOWER A BOND ISSUE OF SOME SORT THAT THE BOARD DOES HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS AS WELL, ALL ALREADY BORROWED AND ON CASH ON HAND.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY WANT TO IDENTIFY THE 25 MILLION AND THEN KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE OTHER DOLLARS OR SOME NUMBER OF THOSE TO POTENTIALLY DO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR USING SOME OTHER WAY.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, UM, BUT I, I COULD CALL CONTACT MS. HEIZER THIS EVENING AND HAVE YOU, AND A RESPONSE BY FIRST THING IN THE MORNING ON THAT, UM, UH, MR. SMITH, LET ME GET YOU IN JUST ONE SECOND.
I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IS HAVE A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FOR 25 MILLION FOR THE JUNE 7TH MEETING, CONDITIONAL ON THE FACILITIES, THE FCA, THE FELLOWSHIP OF CHRISTIAN ATHLETES.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT WE COULD PUT, CAN DO A CONDITIONALLY APPROVED 5 MILLION BASED ON THE CURRENT LIST WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S CONDITIONAL, BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT A YEAR OUT, IF WE DON'T PUT THE RUBBER STAIR RISERS ON IT, THAT CAUSED A COLLATERAL ISSUE WITH OUR BONDS.
I MEAN THAT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK OTHER SCHOOLS DO THIS LEVEL OF AND PROVIDE, I CAN TELL OTHER DISTRICTS, DON'T GO INTO THIS MUCH DETAIL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A COVERED WALKWAY FROM THE SCHOOL TO THE ATHLETIC FIELD, AND THEN SOME GUY'S GOING TO SHOW UP AND BE LIKE, WELL, WHERE'S YOUR MONEY? THERE'S THE COVERED WALKWAY GOES.
THERE ARE SOME SCHOOLS ARE VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT WISE.
I THINK WE'RE KIND OF IN A MIDWAY WE'RE.
BUT, UM, I THINK WHAT I WOULD ASK TANYA TO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE LOOK AT THE ABILITY TO EDIT OR MODIFY IT AT A LATER DATE.
SO YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS AND WE COULD REVISIT IT SAY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND ACTUALLY, AS TANI SAYS, SHE'S ALSO GOT THAT $8 MILLION OF CLOSEOUT MONIES CAN BE ROLLED IN.
NOW YOU CAN DECIDE BETTER DECIDE WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.
AND IF YOU ADD TO THIS, OR IF YOU WANT TO MODIFY THIS FOR, IF YOU WANT TO
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JUST USE THAT MONEY TO COVER THE BELOW THE LINE STUFF WE ALREADY HAVE.I THINK ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT SHOULD BE CHANGED SUCH AS MAYBE THE HILTON HEAD PAINTING, OR WE TALKED ABOUT REMOVING THE DIGITAL MARQUIS, THINK WE HAD CONSENSUS ON THAT, THAT WE COULD REMOVE THOSE AND THEN APPROVE THIS AND SAY, AND, AND KEEP IN YOUR MINDS THAT WE CAN REVISIT IT AT A LATER DATE.
AS LONG AS TAWNY SAYS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT RIGHT AFTER SHE TALKS WITH COUNCIL, SHE MAY TALK TO COUNCIL AND SAYS, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO I, I MEAN, I DON'T, AND WE JUST PUT IN BROAD CATEGORIES LIKE RESTROOMS AND YOUR POINT OF HAVING TO PROVE, UM, HAVE IT IN BROAD CATEGORIES.
I THINK, UM, FRANNIE WILL SAY THAT THAT IS ACCEPTABLE SO WE CAN HAVE IT IN BROAD CATEGORIES AND THEN DRILL DOWN AT SOME OTHER POINT, AS LONG AS WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE LIST FOR BUDGET PURPOSES, AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD, BEFORE WE BEGIN THOSE PROJECTS, WE DO, YOU KNOW, FOR FINANCIAL PURPOSES, WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT AT SOME POINT, BUT I THINK FOR BOND PURPOSES, SHE PROBABLY, UH, WOULD SAY THAT, UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN RELATIVELY SOME BROAD CATEGORIES FOR, AND USUALLY RENOVATIONS REPLACEMENTS OF HPAC ROOFS, THAT SORT OF THING IS WHAT WE GENERALLY ADVERTISE FOR.
SO, UM, BUT I CAN, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HER AND GET YOU AN ANSWER RIGHT AWAY.
SO CAN YOU SAY ONE LINE AND YOU'RE DEAD ON GETTING STUFF A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME IS TOUGH.
A LOT OF TIMES TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THAT IF SOMETHING POPS UP, WE CAN ADDRESS.
MR. SMITH, THANKS FOR WAITING.
I'M ALSO IN TERM ONCE THE, ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M STILL WITH DOING THINGS ABROAD.
IF, YOU KNOW, LOOK, IF YOU LOOK NOW, UH, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVING THE BROAD ANSWERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PEOPLE ARE, I DON'T THINK IT'S OUT OF THE DOCTOR'S STATUE IT'S BECAUSE THAT IS A PART OF OUR JOB.
I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE HAPPY WITH, I THINK BEING MORE INTENTIONAL AND UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHERE PROJECT MONEY IS GOING AT AND BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IT AT AND WHEN, WHAT PROJECTS ARE BEING WORKED ON.
I THINK THAT THAT'S MORE CONDUCIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO, TO, UH, THE DISTRICT SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY AND EVERYONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S GETTING DONE AND WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
AND EVERYONE, UH, HAS, HAS, UH, HAS A CLEAR MIND, BUT ALSO JUST SITTING HERE THINKING TOO.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, DO WE HAVE ALL THE SAFETY, SECURITY STUFF, UH, DONE, DONE, DONE ALREADY BECAUSE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THAT THAT WAS A MAJOR EMERGENCY AND THE DISTRICT SAFETY AND SECURITY, SOMETIMES I DIDN'T DO, DO WE HAVE ALL THE SENTENCE SECURITY WORK DONE YET? SO THE ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE NO, UM, THOSE ARE RENOVATION PROJECTS AND NOT 8% PROJECTS.
SO I THINK WE'RE REFERENCING REFERENDUM PROJECTS.
AND, AND, AND, AND I DO WANNA SAY THOUGH, THAT REFERENDUM PROJECTS, BUT HOW, WHAT I ALSO DO KNOW IS THAT REFERENDUM MONEY COULD BE RUNNING A LITTLE TIGHT AND IT WAS AN EMERGENCY BACK THEN, AND I'M SURE IT'S STILL THE MERCY NOW, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS TO 8% WITH 80% OF FUNDING, DO THOSE PROJECTS, UM, DO THAT WAY MORE, MORE NEED VERSUS ONE RIGHT NOW THAT THEN THESE 8% PROJECTS THAT WE EVEN THERE THAT WOULD EVEN VOTED THAT WAY THAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
AND, AND THEN IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AND WITH PRICES GOING UP, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY BACK THEN, THEN WHY IS IT NOT EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE WE WENT ON A REFERENDUM TO HAVE THOSE THINGS, AND IT MIGHT AS MONEY'S RUNNING TIGHT.
SO HOW WOULD WE NOT KNOW WHEREVER WE NEED TO PUT SOME OF THOSE 8% PROJECTS ON HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PICK SOME OF THOSE SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES ON, ON, ON 8% PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IDEA THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS ARE, THOSE OBLIGATIONS ARE FULFILLED.
I MEAN, SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY DEEPER THAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE KIND OF HASHING OUT.
SO, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE STICKING OUT TO ME AND MR. SMITH, TO YOUR POINT.
I DID, UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT ARE ALWAYS SAYS IS THAT HIGHEST PRIORITIES SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO SAVINGS SECURITY THAT'S IN OUR EARLY AND THEN CLEAN SANITARY AND SAFE.
IF I CAN JUST ADDRESS THE SAFETY, SECURITY REFERENDUM PROJECTS, UM, WE ARE BUILDING A PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ALL COMPLETED, UM, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO BORROW ADDITIONAL REFERENDUM FUNDING.
SO, UM, AT THIS TIME STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THE USE OF 8% FUNDING FOR REFERENDUM PROJECT SUPPLEMENTING, MAKE A MOTION TO, AND I DO I IN THAT HELLO,
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AFTER THAT, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MY, MY, MY, MY, MY, MY, MY PLIGHT IS THAT I, I THINK THAT HAVING, HAVING, HAVING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY ON, AND WE'RE DEBATING ABOUT WHAT PRICES TO BE TO THAT, TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.MY POINT IS THAT WHAT WERE SOME OF THE PARTS THAT DIDN'T GET DIDN'T GET COMPLETED FROM THE LAST APRIL SENT THE LAST NAME PERCENT, OUR MEETING, AND INSTEAD OF LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THOSE, YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THOSE PRICES JUST WENT AWAY AND NOW THEY'RE THIS SHIT.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE BOARD INVOLVEMENT.
I AGREE, MR. SMITH, AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE HERE IS THAT, UM, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED THE 25 MILLION SO THEY CAN BORROW IT.
AND THEN WE DO, I THINK, NEED TO HAVE SOME DEEPER CONVERSATIONS GOING FORWARD ABOUT HOW THIS THING YOU WANT TO CONDITIONALLY.
SO, OR ROBERT, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THE WORDING THEN FOR THE MOTION? SO I'M, UH, RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD ACCEPTANCE OF THE 8% PROD THE 20, 24, 8% PROJECT LIST, NOT TO EXCEED THAT.
AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 25 MILLION, WE'LL NEED TO MODIFY IT.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE 24.
AND IF WE, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WRITING UNDER.
UM, IF WE REMOVE THE MARQUIS, WELL, WE KNOW WHERE IT IS.
AND THEN WE WILL COME WITH SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO THIS NUMBER WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES WE DISCUSSED AND LET ROBIN KNOW THAT NOT TO EXCEED 25 MILLION, OR WE CAN, YEAH.
YOU CAN SAY RIGHT NOW AND NOT TO EXCEED AS LISTED AND WE'LL BRING THE UPDATED LIST TO THE BOARD MEETING.
NOW, KAISER, UM, IS PLANNING UNDER, COMING ON THE JUNE 21ST BOARD MEETING.
SO I DON'T THINK WE WERE EXPECTING A VOTE THIS BOARD MEETING, UM, UNLESS I THOUGHT WAS TO COME TO THIS BOARD MEETING WITH THE VOTE.
OH, SO YOU HAVE IT BEFORE THE NEXT FOR THE 21ST, WHEN SHE COMES WELL, BASICALLY WHERE YOU'RE ALREADY APPROVING THEM.
IF THAT'S MOTION IS TAKEN TO THE J JUNE, UH, SEVENTH, YOU'RE APPROVING THE BONDS.
SO WITHOUT BOND RESOLUTION, SO, OH, WELL THEN WE WAIT AND GET SOME OF THESE ANSWERS AND YOU COULD BRING BACK A MODIFIED LIST, RIGHT? IF WE HAVE ANOTHER OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, MAYBE IT WON'T BE IN TIME TO HAVE THE TOTAL, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE.
SO TANYA, WHEN DO YOU NEED THIS BY? I NEED IT FOR THE JUNE 21ST BOARD MEETING AND I CAN BRING THE BOND RESOLUTION.
AND THEN IN THAT AMOUNT, AT THAT MEETING AND FRANNIE WAS PLANNING ON COMING IN PERSON TO THAT MEETING.
SO CHAIR THE EIGHTH, WE COULD HAVE A
SO AT THE, SO IF AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE EIGHTH, TONYA, YOU'D HAVE AN ANSWER FROM MS. HEIZER ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE PROJECT LIST, RIGHT? YES.
ROBERT AND CAROL, YOU GUYS MIGHT TAKE SOME OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY AND COME BACK WITH A LITTLE MODIFIED LIST.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE, UM, THE PILOT SCHOOL PROJECTS THAT WE DID FOR THE FCA.
YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE FORMAT AND TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE FINISHED UP WITH ALL THE REST OF THE SCHOOL.
SO WE WANTED YOU TO WRITE, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO, TO INFORM THIS LIST, WHAT I'M HOPING TO GET A MORE DETAIL.
UM, MS. CROSBY, HOW MUCH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT BY OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE EIGHTH, HOW MUCH DETAIL DID WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THESE LISTS? BECAUSE I'M NOT, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME IF WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING VERY SPECIFICALLY LAID OUT, OR IF WE JUST NEED CATEGORIES.
I WILL CONTACT MS. HEIZER FIRST AND GET YOU AN ANSWER.
THAT'S THE IDENTIFIED SCHOOLS, IF THEY'RE COLLATERAL, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SO MANY THINGS ON YOUR RADAR? I MEAN, SO I'M GETTING MIXED SIGNALS.
WELL, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS I I'M FEELING A DESIRE TO HAVE A VERY, EVEN MORE SPECIFIC LIST ON EXACT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON.
BUT YOU'RE ALSO ASKING US TO COME UP WITH A MORE GENERIC LIST FOR THE BOND.
I WANT A MORE GENERIC LIST, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I HAVEN'T THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THOSE ARE TWO
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COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.YEAH, NO, I, MY PERSONAL TAKE IS MORE, MORE CATEGORICAL, BUT I THINK WE NEED BETTER CATEGORIES, SAFETY, SECURITY, EDUCATIONAL EQUITY.
I THINK YOU CALL IT ACADEMIC SUPPORT.
UM, YOU KNOW, ASSET PRESERVATION RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING'S TO JUMPED INTO ASSET PRISON AND YOU'RE WANTING US TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE FORMAT OF WORKING ENCLOSED BUILDINGS.
SO I'M NOT, I THINK WILL SERVE YOU THAT WAY.
I MEAN, IF YOU START LOOKING AT IT FROM A, FROM A GENERIC STANDPOINT WITH, WITH EQUITY INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING IS A KID AND PROJECT, THEIR DOLLAR AMOUNT HERE, AND A DOLLAR AMOUNT THERE, BECAUSE I MEAN, TO ME, YOUR ROLE IS TO PROTECT OUR, OUR CAPITAL ASSETS AND THEN WHATEVER WE DO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WITH FIDELITY WE EXPECT.
AND THEN IF YOU GOT TO COME UP AND DEFEND HOW YOU SPENT, IT MAY INHERIT ONLY 3 MILLION THERE.
I HOPE THEY DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD REASONABLE DEFENSE.
THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.
NOW JUST A FIRST YEAR, FIRST TERM BOARD MEMBER.
BUT I THINK A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS BY THAT WE WANT THIS, YOU WANT THAT? AND IT'S GOT US READ BUSINESS STUFF IS NOT REALLY NEEDED AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN OVER TIME.
AND CAUSE PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY WOULDN'T GET THEIR FAIR SHARE, BUT YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THAT TOTAL ASSET PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE GOT TIED UP HERE.
WE WANT YOU TO KEEP IT AT A LEVEL.
AND I THINK THAT MEANS PRIORITIZING THE IMPROVEMENT OVER AND OVER, MAKING SURE THAT THE RIGHT DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT WITH THE RIGHT BANG TO IT.
THE UPGRADE OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
I JUST, FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE.
SO SOMEONE COMES UP TO YOU AT A COCKTAIL PARTY, YOU'RE CUTTING OUT.
THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YOU'RE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I HEARD YOU JUST APPROVED $25 MILLION.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING RUBBER STAIR RISERS AT FORT ROYAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A ROOF ON THE GYM AT BLUFFTON.
YOU JUST WANT TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ASSET PROTECTION, SAFETY AND SECURITY REPLACING ROOMS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS AND I DON'T WANT TO VICAR OVER THESE PROJECTS.
I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK THAT THE BOARD AS A WHOLE WOULD BE, SHOULD LOOK AT IT AS THESE 10 SCHOOLS ARE GETTING CLOSED DOWN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A BUNCH OF STUFF AT THESE 10 SCHOOLS AND NOTHING AT THE OTHER 25.
OH, WE'LL BE QUALIFIED TO DO IT.
YOU'VE GOT FOUR BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN NEXT YEAR YOU GOT TWO TERM GUYS WHO'VE BEEN THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL YOU PASS THAT BATTLE TO GO AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU GOT DONE AND WHAT OVERALL, WHAT WAS THAT? THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN SUSTAIN OVER ROBERT.
NICE TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING BACK.
WHAT NEEDS TO COME BACK? THE NEXT MEETING JUNE EIGHT, MR. SMITH? UM, JUST, JUST TO, UH, ADJUST SOME OF, UH, JUST, JUST, JUST, JUST ADJUST THAT UP.
I ASKED ME WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS, UH, LISTEN TO WHAT MR. MR. CAMPBELL WAS SAYING.
AND, AND, AND IN TURN, IN TERMS OF, UM, OH SHIT.
I TALK ABOUT, ABOUT SHUTTING OUT OF SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF A SCHOOL.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A LOT OF UPDATES THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN A SCHOOL, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF PAINT THAT IS STRONG IN THE SCHOOL.
YOU HAVE NAILS EVERYWHERE THEN, AND THEN YOU HAVE IN SUMMER SCHOOL, HOW DO YOU EXPECT KIDS TO BE IN THAT BUILDING? AS, AS, AS A SAFETY, WE'VE NOW AS A PROFESSIONAL AND AS A DISTRICT, WE'RE PUT TO SOME DEGREE, THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY SHUT, WHY THEY SHUT THE BUILDING, WHY THEY SHUT THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN SO THEY CAN GET STUFF THAT COULD BE TOP POSSIBLY TOXIC OR DANGEROUS TO STUDENTS THAT WE'RE SERVING AT THAT TIME.
SO I WILL SAY, I DO AGREE THAT I DO UNDERSTAND, I DO UNDERSTAND THE TERMS OF SHUTTING DOWN THE SCHOOL, JUST BECAUSE
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OF THE FACT THAT WE DON'T WANT KIDS IN THE BUILDING.I REMEMBER LAST TIME I LAID DOWN AND I'M SURE I DIDN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE HE, I BELIEVE HE AND I HAD TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN THEY WERE PAINTING, THEY HAD TO CLOSE DOWN A CERTAIN PART OF SCHOOL, OR THEY HAVE TO CLOSE IT DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
SO, BECAUSE PARENTS WERE CALLING ME BANK AND SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THEIR KIDS IN SUMMER SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL WHILE THE BUILDING WAS BEING PAINTED.
SO I DO GET, I DO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CLOSED SCHOOLS DOWN.
AND SO I WILL DEFINITELY, UH, UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT THEM CLOSE THE SCHOOL DOWN TO, DURING THE SUMMERTIME TO DO THOSE UPGRADES, BECAUSE IF WE WANT THINGS DONE, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING THE NECESSARY PRECAUTION OF, UH, OF, OF, OF OUR, OF OUR ASSISTANTS AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING JUST TO FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOME, MAYBE SOME BOARD MEMBERS KNEW SOME BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT DIDN'T KNOW.
SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THINGS AND SEE WHY THEY MAY CLOSE DOWN BUILDINGS AND THEN A SUMMER RENOVATION.
MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT THE BRING NEXT MEETING AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG IN LISTENING TO ALL, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BRING TWO VERSIONS, A MODIFIED VERSION OF THIS.
UM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE'VE HAD TODAY, WE'LL BRING A, ANOTHER VERSION THAT WILL BE FOR THE MOST PART, TAKING THESE INTO BROADER CATEGORIES AND LUMPING THEM TOGETHER.
UM, AND AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING.
I DO HAVE A THOUGHT ON HOW IT CAN WORK, BECAUSE WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING A REPORTING MECHANISM, UH, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BRING TO THE NEXT MEETING TO START SHOWING HOW WE CAN REPORT ON THE ALREADY APPROVED PROJECTS.
AND SO WHEN YOU GO IN THE BROAD CATEGORIES, WHAT FINANCE IS GOING TO DO, LET'S SAY LIKE FURNITURE, FURNITURE'S A BROAD CATEGORY.
SO YOU HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN FURNITURE.
WELL, THEN AS EACH PROJECT COMES ON, FINANCE IS GOING TO BREAK THAT DOWN INTO LIKE YOU SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN MEDIA CENTER FURNITURE AT HILTON HEAD STA WELL THEN, SO WHEN WE REPORT BY THAT REPORTING MECHANISM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPORT MORE ON, ON HOW THAT'S BEING SUBBED, BROKEN DOWN INTO INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
SO I THINK WE COULD BRING THAT THOUGH.
THOSE TWO MECHANISMS, WE CAN BRING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU LIKE STAYING WITH THE FORMAT WE STARTED WITH, OR WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO A MORE GENERIC ALONG WITH THE REPORTING MECHANISM.
SO THE MORE GENERIC AND REPORTING MECHANISM MIGHT BE WHAT THE, YOU SHOW US, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT DETAILED LEVEL WE'LL EVENTUALLY GET AS WE DO, IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY GET TO THIS LEVEL, BUT IT'S GOING TO START OUT WITH AN OVERALL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE AS BROAD AS SAFETY AND SECURITY.
THAT'S A VERY BROAD TOPIC, BUT AN EASY ONE, HPAC HPAC.
AND WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE ALL THESE HPAC PROJECTS, PUT THEM INTO KIND OF A PLAN TO SHOW THAT WE'VE DONE IT.
BUT HPAC IS GOING TO BE HPAC PROJECTS, $8 MILLION.
AND AS WE USE THAT $8 MILLION WE'LL REPORT WHERE IT'S BEING SPENT INDIVIDUALLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING.
THAT SHOULD MAKE YOUR LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO WRITE.
I WAS LIKE, BUT AS I'VE LISTENED TO YOU, I'M LIKE, OH, I LIKE THIS BECAUSE AN HBASE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLES, THINGS THAT, AND THEY MAY EVEN ASSESS THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE FIVE MORE YEARS, BUT SUDDENLY THEY DIE AND THEY JUST PARTS AND WHATEVER, AND SUDDENLY WHAT WAS PRIORITY TWO IS NOW PRIORITY ONE NOW.
SO THAT FLEXIBILITY WOULD BE GREAT.
JUST LIKE SOME DATA AND SOME CRITERIA.
AND ON THE RESTROOM ONE, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE A RESTAURANT, BIG NUMBER OF HOW MANY WE HAVE NOW, AND WE'LL HAVE TO REPORT ON REGULAR BASIS AS WE START TO SELECT THOSE PROJECTS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO FALL.
SO THIS MIGHT REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE BACKEND REPORTING TO THE BOARD AS THINGS CHANGE WHEN I'M SEEING.
THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU WERE ASKING FOR ALREADY.
AND AS WE DO PROJECTS, WE UPDATE IT AND THEN IF SOMETHING CHANGES YOU DOCUMENT WHY IT WAS CHANGED.
SO IT'S NOT SORT OF A, WE DON'T KNOW THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE MORE REPORTING TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
LIKE WE KIND OF DUE TO THE CLOCK NOW IS WHAT, CAUSE I MEAN THIS UPFRONT.
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YOUR WHAT'S, YOU'RE REQUESTING SOUNDS LIKE A MORE GENERIC, UPFRONT, MORE REPORTING AS WE GO ALONG WHERE PREVIOUSLY WE DID MORE WORK UPFRONT AND LESS AS WE WENT ALONG.DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I, YEAH.
UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK MORE, MORE INFORMATION AND A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT'S GETTING FIXED.
WHEN IS IT GETTING FIXED? I THINK THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO TAXPAYERS BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF TAX PRIESTS WHO DO WATCH AND THEY'LL DO LISTEN.
BEING GENERIC IS NOT, TO ME BEING GENERIC IS LESS TRANSPARENT.
I THINK THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY OPEN UP
AND THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THERE, AND THAT'S NOT THE ROLE AS ELECT AS A OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND AS PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE, WHO ARE, WHO ARE ELECTED IN THIS DISTRICT THAT I WOULD WANT TO WANT TO WANT TO TAKE.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I'M NOT A I, AND THEN ALSO MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THE O SAY? WHAT DOES THE, OH, HE SAID, HAVE THE, AND HOW DOES THIS FALL INTO WHAT OPERATIONS ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY WERE DOING? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
AND I, UM, THIS IS NOT KIND OF HOW I, HOW I REMEMBERED IT AND I UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS GOING.
SO I'M JUST A LITTLE, KIND OF A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS ABOUT LESSONS BEST.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD LANDED.
FORTUNATELY, YOU PULL THIS OUT OF A FOUR TECHS OF CONFUSION AND, UM, I KNOW THAT MEANS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK FOR YOU, BUT I HOPE IN THE LONG RUN, UM, IT MIGHT BRING US TO A BETTER PROCESS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE EMOTION COMING OUT.
CAUSE WE DON'T NEED ONE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GOING TO BE A JOKE, A FLIPPANT JOKING COMMENT THAT I GOT IT.
UM, ANYWAY, SO I GUESS THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE, JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO GOING FORWARD.
WELL, WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS ON THE EIGHT PART OF THE CLOCK, RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO MEET A HILTON IN HIGH SCHOOL.
WHAT TIME ARE WE STARTING? WELL, WE SOME TIME.
SO WHAT TIME ARE WE STARTED? SO CLOCKS AT SIX, CORRECT.
I MEAN, I THINK BY AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS, WE'RE ALL SORT OF OVER IT AND BRAIN DEAD FOR THE MOST PART.
SO I THINK FOUR O'CLOCK AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET DONE 5 30, 5, 45 AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS. UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN THIS MIXED MEETING IS A PRESENTATION OF BOTH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET AGAIN ON.
AND ALSO I THINK IF YOU HAVE STUFF IN ADVANCE TO LOOK AT THAT, WE COULD MAYBE GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK SO THAT IT KIND OF FLOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I FOUND THAT TO BE HELPFUL SOMETIMES IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
CAUSE I CAN'T DO ANY, I THINK ON IT EARLIER, IT MAKES US, BUT I MEAN, YEAH.
DID YOU WANT TO DO THREE, TWO O'CLOCK NOON, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 8TH, WHICH IS A WEEK FROM THIS WEDNESDAY.
ISN'T IT? IT'S REALLY JUST A WEEK AWAY.