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QUITE FRANKLY, YOU MAY BE OBSOLETE BY THE TIME, BY THE TIME IT COMES READY TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT, OR THEY MAY NOT BE ON HIGHEST PRIORITY IN, IN SEVEN YEARS OR FIVE YEARS OR WHENEVER CONSTRUCTION STARTS.
SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, BASED ON THE MERIT, THOSE LAYERS RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE PROJECT LISTED AREN'T IMPORTANT OR THAT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARY TODAY.
IF WE HAD MAGIC WAND AND A MONEY PRESS, WE WOULD DO ALL OF THEM TODAY.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, I THINK IT KIND OF KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A PERIODIC RECORD, RIGHT.
THAT THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, UH, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY FOR US TO APPROACH THIS THING.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL, AS IT'S WRITTEN, IT SAYS WE WERE, UH, WE WERE APPROVING A RESOLUTION FOR THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT ALL RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED BY THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UH, MY RECOLLECTION IS I DON'T HAVE THE FOUNDATIONS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR 2022, AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? OR WAS IT LEFT BLANK THAT WE WOULD FILL IN THE BLANKS IS KURT OR TOM ON THIS CALL? THERE'S, THERE'S TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
THE FIRST I, THE FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING, UH, IN ITS ENTIRETY, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHAT WE COMMONLY HAVE COME TO REFER TO AS AN ACRONYM OF TAC, UH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UH, TAC OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS OR A COUPLE OF YEARS TO REFINE THE PROJECT LIST.
IF YOU ALL ELECT NOT TO DO THAT, THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT YOU ALL WILL BE DEALING WITH WILL BE AN ORDINANCE TO, UH, GIVE FIRST READING TO AN ORDINANCE TO DO THE REFERENDUM IN 2022.
SO BASED ON THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE THAT ITEM UP, UH, AS A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, TWO OF YOUR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE OUT OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO, WHATEVER WE DO, I THINK SHOULD, UH, BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE VOTE, UH, THIS EVENING, IF WE WE'RE, IF THERE'S SOME CHANCE THAT IT WILL BE DEFEATED.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO TABLE THAT FOR A MONTH THEN TO GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER MCKELLEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN A CHANCE TO BE BACK IN TOWN SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE THEIR INPUT ON THAT.
SINCE WE DID THIS AS A COOPERATIVE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FROM THE COUNCIL APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE TAC, BUT THAT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THANK YOU, MR. BRUCE RATER THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SAGE ADVICE.
WELL, LOGAN, DID I SEE YOUR YEAH.
UM, TWO QUESTIONS, QUESTION ONE.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT NUMBER 20 IS SAYING THAT WE WOULD KEEP THAT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE INTACT? IT DOES.
IT IS NOT SAYING THAT YOU COULD KEEP THEM INTACT AND ASK THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO WORK, TO COME UP WITH MORE DETAILED PROJECT LIST, UH, MORE REFINEMENTS ON PRIORITY OF SCHEDULE, PRIORITY OF PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO DO TO REFERENCE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION EXCEPT IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU CAN MODIFY THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU WANT TO DO A SMALLER PROJECT IN 2022, A SMALL REVEREND, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING, IF I JUST, THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TODAY, IF WE, SOMEBODY UP HERE DOES DECIDE TO POSTPONE THAT VOTE, I HOPE THAT WE CAN AT LEAST LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NOW TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TUNING IN SHOWED UP TODAY, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS A BIG ONE, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THAT.
SO YEAH, I THINK NOT SAYING I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED.
YOU'RE SAYING, I THINK TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS NOW IN PUBLIC IS HEALTHY.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD STATEMENT.
I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD CONTINUE TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION, TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, TO HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING SO THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYONE IS AT THIS POINT ON THE ISSUE.
AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE AFTER YOU HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO TABLE IT, TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW A COUNCIL MEMBERS, MCKELLEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER PASSAVANT TO BE BACK IN TOWN.
SO WE COULD, WE WOULD TAKE OFF POSSIBLY.
WE COULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION BY LEAVING NUMBER 20 ON AND THEN PERHAPS TAKE OFF NUMBER 18, WHICH IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
UH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, WE'LL DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT IT, LOGAN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISMISS IT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT EVERYBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT? VICE CHAIRMAN, SOMERVILLE, TOM, KEVIN.
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YEAH, SURE.COUNCIL SOMERVILLE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TWO ISSUES IN THE ORDER IN WHICH ERIC JUST REFERRED TO THEM, THEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE NUMBER 20 UP AHEAD OF NUMBER 18.
UH, WHEN WE GET TO COUNCIL IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES, I'LL NEED A MOTION TO MOVE NUMBER 20 UP TO NUMBER 18.
WHO WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION? LET ME JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON MUTE.
HE'S ASKING YOU IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO MOVE IT UP FOR YOU AND MOVE 20 TO 18 AND 18 TO 19, THE 19 TO 20.
AND JUST DO THAT IN THAT ORDER.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO REMOVE IT FROM THE VOTE UNTIL WE HAVE OUR CONVERSATIONS.
THE SYSTEM WOULD JUST BE CHANGING.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM MAKING THAT MOTION TO CHANGE THE ORDER.
YOU GET A LANGUAGE FROM A TALL DURING THE NEXT 30 MINUTES.
WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY END THE CAUCUS EARLY ANYWAY.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO BRING UP? IF NOT PAUL, JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.
DID YOU WEIGH IN ON WHAT YOUR OPINION WAS BETWEEN 22 AND 23? YEAH.
WHAT I SAID WAS THAT I COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT AGAINST ANY AT 24, 23 OR 22.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, UH, DECIDE WHICH ONE, THE MAJORITY OF HIS SPORTS.
AND ONE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS I HOPE THAT WHATEVER WE DO IS UNANIMOUS BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A SPLIT DECISION COMING OUT OF THIS COUNCIL, I CAN ONLY SPECULATE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO THE PUBLIC.
WHEN WE ASKED THEM PASSIVELY COULDN'T EVEN AGREE AMONG OURSELVES WAY, IT SHOULD BE DONE.
SO HOPEFULLY AFTER WE'VE HASHED THIS AROUND, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF UNANIMITY AND, UH, BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD WITH ONE VOICE 11 OF US, UH, TO DO IT ON WHATEVER DATE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE FOR A DAY.
IF I MAY, IF I MAY COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE, IT'S VERY HARD TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD, UM, COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM, ASK A QUESTION, UH, ALONG THE FOLLOWING.
AND THAT IS IF WE MOVE 20 ABOVE 18, WHETHER OR NOT THAT REQUIRES YOU TO AMEND THE AGENDA, I DON'T BELIEVE IT REQUIRES YOU TO AMEND THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TWO THIRDS VOTE IN ORDER TO MOVE IT AROUND.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE AN AGREEMENT AMONG COUNCIL OR NOT AN AGREEMENT AMONG COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOM, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WE'VE GOT W WE HAVE 30 MINUTES.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, IF NOT, WE'LL, UH, WITH THIS BAND UNTIL THE SIX O'CLOCK I W I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PAUSE FOR 30 MINUTES SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET THE AUDIO BETTER BEFORE SIX O'CLOCK.