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[00:00:02]

GOOD MORNING

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

AND WELCOME TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING THURSDAY, MAY, 2022.

UM, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIRMAN FRED HAMILTON HERE.

COUNCILMAN DAN WOOD.

WHEN CHAMBERS JAMES GRAY, STAPLES, EXCUSE ME, GRACE STAPLES HERE TO NOLA'S POLITE AND JOHN NICKEL HERE.

RIGHT? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IF ANYONE POPS IN, I WILL MAKE SURE I GET YOU GUYS AT THE TIME THAT THEY'RE IN AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE IT IN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I ASSUME THAT WE HAVE A, UM, YES, YES.

OKAY.

UM, THE ADOPTION

[III. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA]

OF THE AGENDA.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED? IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

LET ME KNOW BY SAYING AYE, OPPOSES AS HABIT THINKING THE SAME THING

[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

FOR THE MINUTES THAT WE RECEIVE ON APRIL, UH, APRIL THE SEVENTH MEETING.

UM, LET ME GET AN, A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES.

SO MOVED ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

EYES.

HEAVENS.

DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR.

NOT AT THIS TIME.

THEN WE WILL PASS THE BATON BACK TO YOU FOR NEW AND ALL THE NEW BUSINESS.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN SO YOU ALL CAN SEE OUR PACKAGE TODAY.

GIVE ME ONE.

IT'S JUST MOVING VERY SLOW.

BEAR WITH ME.

OKAY, COME ON.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S COMING.

IT'S JUST VERY SLOW.

IT'S SLOW WITH SOMEBODY.

CAUSE I HAVE IT UP ON MY SCREEN, BUT IT'S JUST NOT DON'T FREEZE.

DON'T PRIESTS IT'S HAPPENED THE LAST TIME.

CAUSE I WAS DOING TOO MUCH WITH IT AT ONE TIME.

IT'S OH MY DESKTOP.

UM, YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA PULL THAT FROM THE BOTTOM TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES GUYS, BUT IT'S IT'S COMING.

OKAY.

CAN YOU SEE WHAT I SEE OR NO? I MIGHT JUST HAVE TO READ IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.

IT WAS SENT IN THE PACKET, BUT CAN YOU SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? CAN YOU SEE THE AGENDA? NO, IT'S NOT.

IS THAT OKAY?

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OKAY.

SORRY ABOUT I'M GOING TO SCROLL OVER TO OUR MEMO.

SO THE ADOPTED BUDGET

[VII.1. Neighborhood Assistance Program Budget Update]

FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WAS $190,000.

STAFF CONTINUES TO PROCESS APPLICATIONS TO ASSIST INCOME QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLDS IN BLUFFTON AS OF APRIL 28TH, 2022.

WHEN THIS REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, THE AVAILABLE BUDGET WAS 90,509 1690 9,000 490 84 HAS BEEN PAID OUT ON ROOFING REPAIRS, SEPTIC COMPOUNDS AND INCOME VERIFICATION INVOICES.

OUR ESTIMATED SPENDING IS 14,000 6 35, WHICH ARE INVOICES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID OUT AS OF APRIL 28TH, AS OF APRIL 28 34 HOMES HAVE BEEN ASSISTED.

FIVE HOMES ARE WAITING ON REPAIR AND TWO WILL BEGIN WORK WILL BEGIN REPAIR WORK WITHIN UPCOMING DAYS.

SO THAT WAS, UM, AS STATED APRIL 28TH.

SO TWO HOMES ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS AND FIVE HOMES ARE WAITING FOR CONTRACTORS TO GO OUT AND SUBMIT ESTIMATES TO ME.

ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT REPORT? I'LL SCROLL DOWN.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE EXCEL SHEET WHERE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF ITEMIZED OUT SO YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE DOLLARS ARE GOING.

AND I DO WANT TO BRING UP, UM, CHAIRMAN, IF YOU ALLOW ME, IF YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE TREE MITIGATION LINE ITEM E UM, YOU GUYS ADOPTED THE BUDGET OF 10,000 FOR US.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR REMAINING BUDGET FOR THAT IS 1009 90.

AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ESTIMATES SITTING IN MY EMAIL RIGHT NOW FROM ARBOR NATURE.

THAT'S UM, SOME RESIDENTS ARE REQUESTING TREE WORK.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON, RIGHT? AT 12, I HAVE A MEETING WITH FINANCE SO WE CAN MOVE SOME FUNDS THERE.

SO BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MOVE THE FUNDS, I'LL LET YOU KNOW CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO COME TO YOU OF COURSE, TO LET YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL FUNDS FROM BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR IS OVER SO WE CAN DO MORE TREE WORK, UM, MEANING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL FUNDS FROM, FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUDGET, UM, MOVE SOME FUNDS AROUND, SAY FOR INSTANCE, LINE ITEM A IS 15,000, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY TOUCH.

SO I'M GONNA SEE IF, UH, WHAT FINANCE CAN DO FOR US TO GET SOME FUNDS FROM A BATEMAN OVER TO TREE, IF THAT'S AGREEABLE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE YET, YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT LAST SAY SO, BUT I MEET WITH FINANCE, YOU KNOW, TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN DO IN ORDER TO, UM, UP OUR TREE BUDGET UNTIL THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO MORE THAN LIKELY THAT'D BE PULLING FROM A BAIT MINT, WHICH IS 15, WHICH WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON YEAR.

OKAY.

I'M GLAD TO HEATHER'S WITH YOU BECAUSE THOSE FUNDS FOR TREE ABATEMENT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO COME FROM THE ACTUAL BUDGET.

OKAY.

SO, SO WE HAVE, AND, AND, AND SO IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT FROM THE ACTUAL BUDGET, THEN WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET BEFORE WE COULD DO THAT WORK WHEN THERE'S MORE FUNDS, UM, OUR REPLENISH AT 10,000 MARK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, SO IS THAT YOUR PREFERENCE JUST TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, IF IT GOES OVER THAT THOUSAND VERSUS MOVE SOME OF THE FUNDS WITHIN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT WAS IT.

THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED ON WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, RIGHT? YEP.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT WASN'T KIND OF THAT EXTRA $10,000.

UM, IN ADDITION, SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, IT IS BUDGET TIME AND WE HAVEN'T GONE BEFORE FOR STREETING YET.

UM, BUT THIS BUDGET AND I BELIEVE, UM, VICKY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THAT THE BUDGET PROPOSED FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS SIMILAR TO THE SAME BUDGET, THE EXACT SAME HERE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO IN THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE BY THIS COMMITTEE FOR THAT $10,000 FOR TREATMENT IN NEXT YEAR? NOW THAT VICKI IS SEEN FOR A YEAR, HOW IT'S WORKING? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO LEAVE AS IS, OR JUST FOR DISCUSSION, UM, INCREASE THAT IN THE FUTURE AND MAYBE IT'S NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT THE FOLLOWING, BUT JUST, UH, SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION FOR DISCUSSION.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY, UH, INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THAT ITEM SEEMS TO ME BREAD THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO REDUCE THE ABATEMENT BUDGET BY FIVE AND, AND PUSH THAT INTO A TREE MITIGATION, UH, BASED ON THIS YEAR'S EXPERIENCE, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS,

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AND IF YOU, IF I CAN MAKE A CHAIRMAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE BATEMAN.

UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE ABATEMENT BY ITSELF.

UM, BUT ALSO ENI, UH, PRIVATE ROLE REPAIR, WHICH IS 9,000.

UH, WE DON'T USUALLY, WELL, I HAVEN'T TOUCHED THOSE FUNDS SINCE I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

SO MAYBE IF WE CAN LESSEN THE 9 1, 1 ADDRESSING AN ABATEMENT TO, UM, TAKE UP OUR TREE MITIGATION.

YEAH.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING, AND I, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT THOSE ESTIMATES THAT I HAVE.

YES, WE WILL WAIT, PUSH THAT TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IF WE TAKE DOWN, TAKE DOWN SOME OF THOSE ONES THAT WE DON'T REALLY USE IN PLACE IN TREE MITIGATION.

OKAY.

THE, MY, MY ONLY RESERVATION IS THAT'S.

WE DECIDED THAT THAT WAS A LINE ITEM.

THAT WAS, WE WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

I MEAN, AND I, I KNOW WE HAVE USED, UM, ROAD REPAIR BEFORE HAD SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES.

UM, OKAY.

UM, SO THAT'S MY ONLY RESERVATION IS, IS THAT WHEN WE NEEDED, WE PROBABLY HAVE, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE A LINE ITEM, MAYBE REDUCING THE AMOUNT, BUT DON'T REDUCE THAT THE, UM, THE LINE ITEM.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

YES, SIR.

NO, NOT TAKE IT OFF COMPLETELY.

AND MAKE JAMES IS ENTERING THE MEETING.

MACK.

JAMES IS ENTERING.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT, UM, THE BUDGETS AND WHAT WAS USED PRIOR TO 2020 TO SEE, UM, HOW MUCH WERE YOU USING THEN GAUGE IT FROM THERE? CAUSE IT COULD BE THAT WE'RE NOT USING THEM BECAUSE IT WAS SLOW MOVEMENT, 20, 20, 20, 21.

UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES.

YES, YES, DEFINITELY.

SO NEXT MONTH MEETING CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU WANT ME TO PULL MAYBE TWO, THREE YEARS OF GO BACK TO OUR BUDGET AND SEE WHAT EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE PRE COVID.

THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.

YES.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET? IT'S A GOOD THING.

WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY.

CAN I ADD THAT? CAN I PUT THAT IN THERE? YES, YOU MAY.

YOU MADE PROGRAMS. THE PROGRAM IS BEING UTILIZED IN A VERY, UM, EFFECTIVE WAY AND, AND, AND WE CONTRIBUTE A LOT OF THAT TO YOUR, TO YOUR INVOLVEMENT.

AND WE APPRECIATE, YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THE BUDGETS? IF NOT,

[VIII.1. Hilton Head Regional Habitat for Humanity, Brenda Dooley, Executive Director]

WE HAVE, UH, MS. BRENDA DOOLEY, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OUR LOCAL HABITAT FOR HUMANITY PROJECT.

AND BRENDA IS JUST GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH.

AND LAST MONTH WE BROUGHT UP, UM, GWEN BROUGHT UP AN IDEA ABOUT, UM, BUILDING HOMES ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

AND, UM, MS. BRENDA WAS A PART OF THE MEETING VIRTUALLY LAST MONTH AND SAID THAT, YES, WE DO THAT.

SO WE INVITED HER INTO SPEAK.

SO I'LL GIVE IT OVER TO MS. BRENDA WAS BRENDA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A LONG-TERM MEMBER OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HABITAT.

UM, TOTALLY OFF TOPIC THOUGH.

I THINK IN PRIOR MEETINGS, I'VE SEEN MR. NICKEL WEARING AN IOWA HAWKEYES T-SHIRT AND I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED.

I DON'T SEE THAT THIS MORNING, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHEN I TOLD YOU HE WAS SLOW.

YOU HAVE TO DRESS CODE WORD.

SORRY, I SHOULD'VE SENT THAT AHEAD ANYWAY AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND TO SHARE SOME UPDATES WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AT HABITAT.

UM, I HAVE KIND OF A COUPLE TOPICS HERE THAT VICTORIA AND I TALKED ABOUT, UM, DISCUSSING ONE IS WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AND THEN SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

SO I'LL START WITH THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE 14 ACRES ON HILTON HEAD THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, WHERE WE ARE BUILDING 32 HOMES FOR FAMILIES, UM, THAT, THAT WANT TO LIVE HERE ON THE ISLAND.

WE HAVE 28 OF THOSE 32 HOMES ARE COMPLETE.

SO WE'RE DOWN TO OUR LAST FOUR HOUSES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

UM, THESE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY UNITS

[00:15:01]

AND, UM, WE EXPECT WE'LL PROBABLY BE DONE HERE ON THE ISLAND IN OCTOBER, SOMETIME EARLY OCTOBER, PROBABLY.

UM, WE PAID FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE.

THERE WAS NOTHING THERE, BUT TREES BEFORE NOW, WE WE'VE GOT THE ROADS AND WATER AND SEWER AND UTILITIES ALL IN.

AND, UM, AFTER THAT WE HAVE THREE LOTS THAT WE OWN IN RICHLAND.

SO WE'LL BE GOING TO ORIGINAL AND FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN OUR SITE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON WHERE WE GO NEXT AND WE'LL GET THAT FIGURED OUT HERE VERY SHORTLY.

SO BEFORE I MOVE ON, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THAT I CAN ANSWER? UH, LIKE I GUESS I NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH AND, UM, IF YOU, IF COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE MAKE NOTES OF IT.

WE'RE GOING TO EXIT AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

SO AS, AS VICKI MENTIONED, UM, IT CAME UP AT YOUR LAST MEETING, WHETHER THAT WAS ANYBODY THAT WAS BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON LAND THAT PEOPLE ALREADY OWN.

AND WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, I, AS FRED MINTON, I'VE BEEN IN WITH HABITAT FOR A LONG TIME.

I WAS IN BUFORD FOR NINE YEARS BEFORE COMING DOWN TO HILTON HEAD.

AND I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST SIX YEARS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE IT WITH THIS AFFILIATE, BUT I KNOW WHEN I WAS IN BUFORD, WE DID IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

THEY'LL HOMES FOR FAMILIES THAT OWN THEIR OWN LAND.

UM, THERE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH HEIRS PROPERTY.

UM, THERE, THERE HAS TO BE CLEAR TITLE BEFORE WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT THAT PROJECT AND THEN FAMILY ONLY TO MEET ALL OF OUR OTHER CRITERIA.

SO WHAT ARE TRADITIONAL FAMILIES GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM GO THROUGH? UM, THIS WOULD STILL APPLY FOR, FOR THOSE WHO OWN THEIR OWN LAND.

SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A NEED FOR HOUSING, WHICH IS THE EASY ONE TO MEET USUALLY.

UM, THEY HAVE TO MEET OUR INCOME GUIDELINES.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SERVING UP TO 60% OF THE AREA, MEETING INCOME BASED ON FAMILY SIZE.

AND THEN THEY DO NEED TO BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US.

SO DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE APPLICANT OR MULTIPLE APPLICANTS, THEY WILL HAVE THOSE SWEAT EQUITY HOURS TO DO 300 TO 400 HOURS OF SWEAT EQUITY.

UM, THEY HAVE TO HELP WORK ON THEIR OWN HOME.

THEY'LL WORK ON OTHER PROGRAM, FAMILIES, HOMES.

UM, THEY CAN VOLUNTEER IN OUR RESOURCE TO MEET THOSE HOURS.

AND THEN, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL HOMEOWNERS.

WE ALSO PROVIDE THEM WITH COUNSELING CLASSES BEFORE WE CLOSE ON THEIR HOME.

SO WE HAVE, UM, WORKSHOPS THAT ARE MANDATORY FOR PROGRAM FAMILIES TO PARTICIPATE IN, TO TALK ABOUT BUDGETING, CREDIT, PREDATORY LENDING INSURANCE, UM, LEGALLY SHOES, WHETHER THEY HAVE A WILL OR NOT.

UM, NOW THAT THEY HAVE THIS NEW SIGNIFICANT ASSET OR WE'LL HAVE, UM, INSURANCE, HOME MAINTENANCE, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SO THAT BY THE TIME THEY CLOSE ON THEIR HOUSE AND MOVE INTO IT, THEY'VE HAD, UM, A LOT OF EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A HOMEOWNER.

THERE'S ALWAYS THE ONE CONSIDERATION THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE FAMILIES UNDERSTAND, AND, AND THIS WOULD APPLY WITH ANY LENDER.

UM, ONCE WE SELL THAT HOME TO THE FAMILY, THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE WITH HABITAT.

SO WE'RE STARTING AT 25 TO 30 YEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

AND IF THIS LAND IS, HAS BEEN IN THEIR FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S FAMILY LAND, THAT THAT HAS, UH, UM, AN EMOTIONAL VALUE, AS WELL AS, AS A MONETARY VALUE, THEY NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THEY'LL HAVE A MORTGAGE.

IF THEY DON'T MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS, THEY COULD LOSE THAT FAMILY LAND.

IF WE WERE TO FORECLOSE ON THAT PROPERTY, THEY COULD LOSE THAT LAND.

SO THEY NEEDED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

IT'S A SMALL RISK.

UM, OUR FORECLOSURE RATE IS 2%, I BELIEVE SO IT'S A SMALL RISK, BUT I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE YET THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT IS WORKING WITH SENIORS.

UM, ANOTHER AFFILIATE IN THE STATE HAS STARTED DOING THAT COTTAGE FOR, UM, SENIORS WHO ARE LIVING IN SAY MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE, HAVE JUST THEY'RE THEY'RE, THEY THEY'RE, THEY'RE USEFULNESS, THEY'RE FALLING APART AROUND THEM, AND IT'S NOT SAFE FOR THEM TO LIVE THERE, OR EVEN, UM, HOMES THAT THEY'RE LIVING IN THAT ARE IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR.

IT WOULD COST TOO MUCH TO BE EFFECTIVE TO, TO DO ANY WORK FOR THEM, UM, ON THAT CURRENT HOME.

AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO A PLAN THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER FOR A COTTAGE, UM, THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD WORK BEST FOR A COUPLE OR A SINGLE APPLICANT.

IT'S A LITTLE UNDER 700 SQUARE FEET.

IT CAN BE BUILT TO BE FULLY ACCESSIBLE.

SO WE'LL SEE SOMEONE IN A WHEELCHAIR WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO GET INTO IT.

UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE CATCHES AND THE FIRST THING THAT COMES UP FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT IF THEY'RE LIVING IN A HOME, THAT'S

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FALLING INTO A STATE OF DISREPAIR, OR THEY'VE BEEN LIVING IN A MOBILE HOME FOR A LONG TIME.

THEY HAVEN'T HAD A MORTGAGE PAYMENT IN A VERY LONG TIME.

THERE WOULD BE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT, BUT WE WORK WITH OUR FAMILIES SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME, UM, ON, ON A MORTGAGE PAYMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THEIR, UM, NOT JUST THE PRINCIPAL PAYMENT, BUT THE INSURANCE AND THE TAXES AND THE TERMITE.

AND THEN THERE WOULD, THERE SHOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD SAVINGS IN UTILITIES.

THIS COTTAGE WOULD BE MUCH MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT THAN A MOBILE HOME THAT THEY'VE BEEN LIVING IN THAT'S FALLING APART OR A HOME THAT'S THAT'S IN SUCH A BAD STATE OF DISREPAIR.

SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE MAYBE THE, THE COST OF UTILITIES WOULD COME DOWN ENOUGH TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT NEW MORTGAGE COSTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.

AND THEN OTHER THINGS THAT I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS ON NOW, JUST DUE TO TIME, BUT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN LOOKING AT MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THEM OURSELVES, UM, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES FOR, FOR FAMILIES.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SMALL REPAIR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, AND CAN LOOK AT DOING REPAIRS FOR FAMILIES ALSO.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION HOW, UM, YOU GUYS WEATHERED THE STORM OF PRICE INCREASE TO KEEP YOUR HOMES AFFORDABLE AND THIS MARKET IT'S CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW.

UM, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, OUR HOME COSTS HAVE PROBABLY GONE UP ABOUT 25%.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN.

I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE OUT ASKING FOR SOME EXTRA HELP WITH DONATIONS.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO BRING THAT FUNDRAISING IN AND, UM, JUST GETTING BY AS BEST WE COULD, WE WERE FORTUNATE GOING INTO THE PANDEMIC.

WE WERE IN A PRETTY GOOD POSITION.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF RIDE, RIDE THIS STORM OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE.

OKAY.

THAT DOES THAT WHEN, WHEN THOSE COSTS INCREASE IT, THAT YOU SAID ABOUT 25%, IS THAT ALSO CAUSED INCREASED FOR THE HOMEOWNER.

IT IS, UM, TO A DEGREE, THE WAY THAT WE STRUCTURE OUR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS IS SO THAT THE FAMILY DOESN'T PAY MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME.

SO WHAT IT DOES IS, UM, WE HAVE TWO MORTGAGES THAT WE PUT ON EACH HOME, THE, THE TWO OF THEM COMBINED EQUAL THE FAIR MARKET, THAT APPRAISED VALUE OF THE HOME.

AND SO THAT FIRST MORTGAGE IS WHAT THEY REPAID BACK TO US.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SET UP ON THAT 30% HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

THE SECOND MORTGAGE WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND THAT ONE WILL GO AWAY.

THEY, THEY BASICALLY PAY WITH THAT ONE WITH TIME.

AS LONG AS THEY STAY IN THE HOME, IT'S THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

THEY MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS EACH MONTH.

THEY ABIDE BY THE, IF THEY'RE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ARE COVENANTS, IF THEY ABIDE BY THE COVENANTS, THAT ONE GETS PAID WITH TIME.

OKAY.

THE, THE COTTAGE FOR THE ELDERLY.

IS THAT A STICK BILL COTTAGE? YES.

IT'S A PERMANENT FIXTURE.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GREAT REPORT.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UM, I HA I HAVE A QUESTION, BRENDA.

UM, I HAVE, I'M A, UH, GRAY STAPLES AND I HAVE, UH, I'M A REALTOR.

I HAVE SEVERAL, UM, CLIENTS, POTENTIAL CLIENTS WHO HAVE LAND AND THEY'VE COME TO ME ABOUT HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO BUILD ON IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT, DON'T HAVE THE INCOME TO DO THIS.

HOW WOULD THEY APPLY TO, UM, TO HABITAT? SO THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO CONTACT US AND WE WOULD SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE AND TALK IT THROUGH.

WE HAVE KIND OF A PRE-APPLICATION ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT, I WOULDN'T CALL IT AN APPLICATION BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE IT.

WE DON'T TAKE ANY INFORMATION FROM IT.

WE JUST GIVE IT TO THEM AND LET THEM KIND OF SELF-EVALUATE WHETHER THEY FEEL THEY WOULD FIT INTO OUR CRITERIA OR NOT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, AND THANK YOU AS JUST A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I TOOK A LOT OF NOTES AND JUST THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AT THE SENIORS AS WELL.

THAT IS JUST AWESOME.

IT'S A REALLY CUTE LITTLE COTTAGE, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I HOPE WE CAN DO ONE SOON.

CONGRATULATIONS.

I USED TO BE ON THE HABITAT BOARD IN 2008, 2009.

SO JUST REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK

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THAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT'S AWESOME.

THANK YOU, MS. BRENDA, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S VICTORIA, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEND ME, UM, AN OUTLINE AND A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT THE COTTAGE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE ELDERS? ELDERLY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRENDA? EXCUSE ME.

THIS IS JOHN NICOLE.

I, THIS IS A LITTLE OFF SUBJECT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, THE, THE RESTORE IN BLUFFTON SUPPORTS HABITAT, AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER THE PROCEEDS GO TO A STATE ORGANIZATION OR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, OR DO THEY STAY IN THE COMMUNITY, STAY IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO AMEN.

THAT STORY IS, IS A GREAT, UH, GREAT THING FOR US TO HAVE IT.

IT DOES A LOT FOR US WHEN IT'S A BUSY STORE.

IT IS BRENDA.

I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, A NEW COMPONENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO BRING ONLINE IS THE TRIPLEX OR DUPLEX, UM, CAN, IS HOW FAR AWAY ARE YOU FROM THAT? AND WHAT DO YOU THINK, UM, THAT WILL BE HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH IN A PARTNERSHIP? LIKE IF, UM, WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION WE HAVE LOOKED AT PLANE, WE HAVE PLANS.

AND I THINK MAYBE YOU HAVE SEEN THOSE.

I THINK PAT MAYBE SHARED THOSE WITH YOU AT ONE POINT, UM, WE HAVE PLANS FROM AN AFFILIATE IN FLORIDA THAT DOES BUILD THOSE.

UM, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD A PROJECT RIGHT NOW, A PARCEL OF LAND WHERE IT SEEMED APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT YET.

SO, UM, WE'RE KIND OF JUST LOOKING AT IT AND, AND GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE INS AND OUTS OF DOING IT AND HOW IT WOULD WORK, UM, PARTNERSHIP WITH SOMEONE ELSE.

WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

UM, MAYBE PET HAS SHOWN IT TO ME, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN, YEAH.

SO, YES.

SO IF, IF WE COULD, UM, IF, IF WHEN YOU GET MORE INFORMATION, IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH US, I REALLY APPRECIATE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I THINK YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOU'RE MUTED.

YOU'RE MUTED ONE.

I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO DO IS SIGN OFF AND SIGN BACK IN.

I THINK WHEN YOU CAME ON, YOU TURN OFF YOUR MICROPHONE, I THINK WHEN YOU SIGNED IN ORIGINALLY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE WAIT ON YOU.

WELL, THAT WE'RE WAITING FRED, LIKE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, UM, I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT THE TOWN HAD, HAS AN RFQ OUT RIGHT NOW FOR, UM, PROJECT OUT BY THE NORTH END POST OFFICE.

AND THEY'RE HOPING FOR THAT TO BE, UM, A MIXED INCOME TYPE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO FOLKS THAT WE WOULD SERVE AT THE LOWER END AND THEN EVEN UP HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SERVE.

SO WE ARE TALKING WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS ABOUT PARTNERING ON THAT PROJECT AND SUBMITTING AN RFQ FOR IT.

SO WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES LIKE THAT AND, AND TRY TO BE INNOVATIVE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH MORE.

OKAY.

UM, W W WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR AMI, UM, SCALE?

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WE GO UP TO 60% RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN, UM, INTERNATIONAL ALLOWS US TO GO UP TO 80% AND, AND THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT DOING THAT.

THERE YOU ARE.

OKAY.

YEP.

MEGA IF YOU CALL ME AND I'LL PUT YOU ON SPEAKERPHONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT IS AMI AREA? MEDIUM INCOME.

SO GRACE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, IT WOULD BE BASED ON FAMILY SIZE.

SO A FAMILY OF FOUR IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT A FAMILY OF SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT WOULD BE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND GRACE THAT'S BASED ON BUFORD COUNTY, UM, NUMBERS OF WHAT THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME WOULD BE FOR BEEF AND COUNTY.

OKAY.

IS THAT THE SAME, UM, UH, CHART THAT THE, UM, USD A DIRECT USES BY ANY CHANCE INCOME CHART? I THINK USDA WILL USE THAT BASE ON THE AREA THAT THEY'RE PERFORMING IN.

YES.

YEAH.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE ESTABLISHED BY HUD EVERY YEAR.

ARE YOU CALLING ME GREAT.

UH, MAYBE GIVE ME A CALL AND I'M ON SPEAKER PHONE AND WE NEED, WE NEED, WE NEED YOUR INPUT.

OH, YOU CAN ALSO WRITE IT INTO CHATMATIC.

WE'LL ALL SEE IT.

OKAY.

IT'S AMAZING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

LOOK AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER.

YOU PUT ME, YOU PRESSURED ME.

I BASICALLY JUST WANTED TO SAY, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY OPTION CAUSE I WAS AT MEETING THIS MORNING AND THEY WERE JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF MULTI-FAMILY OPTIONS HERE LOCALLY.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY PUSH THAT.

AND I WAS GOING TO PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH A REALTOR WHO HAS, UM, SOME INVESTORS LOOKING TO INVEST IN MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN IT JUST, ALL THESE IDEAS STARTED POPPING IN MY HEAD.

I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE AGING IN PLACE OPTIONS FOR ELDERLY.

THAT'S A HUGE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS AT THE HBA APP ABOUT A LOT LATELY.

UM, IT'S JUST OPTIONS.

SO JUST EXCITED FOR WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON.

EVERYONE.

COULD EVERYONE HEAR ME? VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

THANKS MAN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, RENDERED, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING A GUEST AND PROVIDING US WITH SUCH VALUABLE INFORMATION AND APPLAUD THERE FOR THAT HABITAT IS DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING, UM, AGAIN WITH US TODAY.

UM, VICTORIA, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR.

SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO UNMUTE NOW, SIR.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR THIS MONTH.

UH, WE, I WILL GET WITH GWEN SO WE CAN GO OVER EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR LAST MONTH.

UM, THE MONTHS KINDA ROLL PAST US AND EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE IS FAST, SO IT'S MOVING FAST PACED.

SO GLEN AND I WILL HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND GO EXACTLY OVER EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR.

SO WE CAN TEAM HER UP WITH STAFF, UM, CHAIRMAN, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT SWEEPING IT UNDER THE RUG.

WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND MEET YET.

OKAY.

UM, HEATHER, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SHARING ANYTHING? UH, NO.

NOTHING TO SHARE.

I THINK, UM, VICTORIA HAS COVERED EVERYTHING, SO I KNOW SHE'LL PULL TOGETHER SOME JUST OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE TREE PROGRAM.

UM, AND REALLY, UH, THAT'S IT, NO OTHER, NO OTHER INPUT AT THIS TIME.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? UM,

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NOT A QUESTION, BUT I, I KNOW WE STILL WORKING ON OUR, ON OUR HOUSING PROJECT, IF YOU COULD HELP ME, UH, HELP US IN THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WITH AN UPDATE.

OKAY.

WE SHOULD, UM, I'M EXCITED.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A, AN UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, THE TOPIC IS ON EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S ANTICIPATED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TOWN COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THAT, UM, DRAFT CONTRACT AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.

SO, UM, YEAH, WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE AN UPDATE THAT HOPEFULLY ANY, ANY PARTING THOUGHTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? UM, I DO.

I JUST, THIS JUST CAME ACROSS MY, MY MIND.

WE HAVE, UM, I THINK YOU PROBABLY READ THAT ARTICLE.

I SENT OUR ASS, UH, MS. VICTORIA TALKED ABOUT THE ARTICLE TO SEND TO EVERYONE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE, THE LACK OF HOUSING AND, UM, W WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE FORECLOSURES NOW OR, YOU KNOW, PRE-FORECLOSURES COMING ON.

DOES OUR, UH, IS IT IN THE PURVIEW OF OUR COMMITTEE TO GIVE HOUSING ASSISTANCE OR IS THAT ANYWHERE WITHIN THE, OUR, UM, THE BLUFFTON COUNCIL TOWN COUNCIL PURVIEW TO HELP PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE GOING INTO FORECLOSURE? I DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROGRAM THAN WHEN YOU SAY, UM, PRE-FORECLOSURE, UM, THAT, THAT MEANS THAT, UM, THEY CAN STILL, UM, COME UP WITH THEIR PAYMENTS AND SAVE THE DAY AND SAVE IT FROM GOING INTO, UM, DEFAULT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT USUALLY MEANS THEY'RE AT LEAST ONE TO THREE PAYMENTS BEHIND SO THAT THEY AUTOMATIC OR THEY'RE PROBABLY THREE PAYMENTS BEHIND, THEN THEY GO INTO PRE-FORECLOSURE AND SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T GET OUT OF IT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS.

NOW, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOW INCOME, UM, PEOPLE THAT FALL UNDER THE EMI RANGE? YES.

OKAY.

UM, HEATHER, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? OKAY.

DO YOU KNOW OF ANY PROGRAMS, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY PROGRAMS WITHIN THE COUNTY, UM, THAT ARE IN THE STATE THAT WE MIGHT GET, UM, TAP INTO US? THAT'S AN AREA THAT YOU CAN HELP US RESEARCH? YES, WE CERTAINLY WILL.

UM, VICTORIA AND I WERE JUST KIND OF TATTING HERE TRYING TO THINK, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, OUR PR THE PROGRAM, THIS PROGRAM DOESN'T HAVE A MEANS TO DIRECTLY ASSIST WITH THAT.

UM, JUST KINDA BRAINSTORMING QUICK WITHOUT MAYBE BLUFFTON SELF-HELP OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THE ARPA DOLLARS, UM, THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY RESEARCH THAT AND BRING THAT BACK.

IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND I WISH I HAD A BETTER ANSWER FOR THAT.

YEAH.

WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S KIND OF UNDERCOVER RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES ARE, OUR BANKS ARE SENDING OUT THINGS SAYING, DO YOU WANT TO BE TRAINED ON, ON WORKING WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN, IN TROUBLE.

AND I KNOW FROM THE, THE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR, OUR GROUP THERE, THAT'S GONNA POP UP PRETTY.

AND IT'LL, IF IT W IF IT IS LIKE, IT WAS THE LAST TIME IN 2007, 2008, IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL AND IT'LL BE LAST MINUTE.

AND PEOPLE DON'T, YOU KNOW, ARE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SAY WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE THEY'RE IN.

RIGHT.

SO JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT.

OKAY.

IF YOU'D LIKE, SORRY, I JUST SAID THAT WE WILL BE HAPPY TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE US TO DO.

OKAY.

WHAT, WHAT, WHEN THAT PRE, UH, FULL CAUSE YOUR LIST COME UP, IS THAT, UM, SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN SHARE, UM, IS THAT INFORMATION STILL PRIVATE? IT'S, IT'S STILL PRIVATE WITH THE BANKS.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY SHARING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM MY BROKER THAT THEY ARE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, THE BROKERS

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ARE BEGINNING TO SEE A LOT OF CALLING, A LOT OF, UH, ALERTS.

UM, AND I WANT TO SHARE, UM, WHAT MEG'S SHARED WITH ME ABOUT, UM, JUST WHEN IT COMES TO A MULTIFAMILY, SHE SAID IT'S STILL A NEW CONCEPT FOR US.

AND BECAUSE MULTI-FAMILY FREQUENTLY MEANS MULTI-STORY FOR VOLUNTEERS OR HESITANT.

UM, AND, AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERN FOR HABITAT AT ONE POINT THAT THEY USUALLY HAD VOLUNTEERS.

A LOT OF THEM WERE ELDERLY AND DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT TYPE OF WORK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AM I RIGHT, BRENDA? YES, YOU ARE.

BUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WON'T HAPPEN.

IT JUST IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, ANY OTHER, UH, THOUGHTS BEFORE WE END A GREAT MEETING? OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THIS GREAT MEETING, AND AGAIN, THANKS.

UM, BRAND NEW FOR, FOR HER PRESENTATION.

AND THIS MEETING IS NOW AN ADJOURN AND HAVE A BLESSED.