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OKAY BUDDY, LET'S CALL THIS MARCH 31ST AT 10:30 AM MEETING OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE OF THE BEAVER COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION TO ORDER.
UM, AND AS IS OUR PRACTICE, LET US FIRST START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY VERY MUCH RIGHT PRIOR TO JUMPING RIGHT INTO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
LET'S JUST IDENTIFY WHO ALL IS IN THE ROOM AND ON ZOOM.
SO ON ZOOM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, KATHY
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE CHAIR DAVID STRIVEN JUROR, AND LET'S SAY YOU HAVE TO MOVE THIS OVER.
WE HAVE ANGELA MIDDLETON AND INGRID, BOTH RIGHT IN THE ROOM WITH US RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, ROBYN CUSHION, BERRY MS. ALICE WALTON AND WENDY CARTOONISH.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND ATTENDING.
AND RIGHT NOW OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE NEED AN APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY DR.
NASTY AND A SECOND BY MS. GABBY ROBOT.
UH, APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 25TH, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE AND EMOTION TO DO SO I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 25TH, 2021 A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NONE.
UM, ON TODAY'S AGENDA, FIRST THING THAT'S COMING UP FOR OUR DISCUSSION IS A POLICY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
SEE, 2.23 IS A POLICY THAT GOVERNS THAT.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS BOAT RIGHT, IS ONE THAT BOUGHT, UH, IS ASKING THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS.
SO MS. BOATWRIGHT, WOULD YOU MIND WEIGHING IN ON YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? SURE.
AND I'M SORRY, I'M RUNNING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
UM, YEAH, THE FIRST THOUGHT I HAD WAS THAT THE CALLING IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, IT'S NOT IN OUR POLICY.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO CONTINUE DOING THAT FORM OF A VIRTUAL MEETING.
I'M GOING FOR, I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE CAN CONTINUE TO INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT PHYSICALLY COME INTO THE BUILDING.
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE CALLING IN FROM OUT OF STATE.
PEOPLE CALLING IN THAT HAVE, DO NOT HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO I THOUGHT THIS COMING OUT OF THE COVID PANDEMIC OR BACK TO NOT HAVING VIRTUAL MEETINGS AS MUCH, THERE'LL BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I'M JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE PERSON THAT'S MAKING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND ALSO, I THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE HOKEY TO HAVE BASICALLY A PHONE AND A MICROPHONE AND WE'RE TRYING, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A FAIRLY, UH, PRIMITIVE AND PROBLEMATIC APPROACH TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
SO IT WAS HOPING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
AND THEN THAT KIND OF LED ME TO LOOKING AT OUR POLICY FOR IT IN GENERAL.
UM, AND IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN A WHILE AND I THINK THAT, UH, COMING INTO THIS ELECTION SEASON, WE WANT TO STAY AS ORGANIZED, EFFICIENT AND NONPARTISAN AS POSSIBLE.
SO I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER DISTRICTS AND, AND THINK THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE CAN SET UP OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS TO PRIORITIZE BEAVER COUNTY SCHOOL
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OR BUFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS, UM, TO KEEP IT BALANCED, TO STAY NONPARTISAN AND TO KEEP PEOPLE WITH, UH, POLITICAL AGENDAS FROM ESSENTIALLY BEING SO DISRUPTIVE TO OUR MEETING PROCESS THAT WE CAN'T GET THE JOB DONE, BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.SO THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU, MS. BOATWRIGHT FOR THAT, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT MS. BARBARA HAS, HAS ASKED THAT THERE WAS NEVSKY, THANK YOU, MADAM CARE.
UM, I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY I'M, I'M AGAINST ANY KIND OF RESTRICTION.
THAT'S GONNA RESTRICT PEOPLE FROM GIVING PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I'LL JUST GIVE SOME THOUGHTS ON IT.
ONE OF THEM BEING, UH, THAT I RECALL MAYBE RIGHT WHEN WE HAD FIRST ON THE BOARD OR BEFORE THAT, THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING, UM, ZONING FOR CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE FROM TECHNICALLY OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF AREA THAT WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE LOOKING TO MOVE HERE, WHO HAD CHOSEN A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND NOW, UM, THEY WERE BEING TOLD THAT THE SCHOOLS, THEY THOUGHT THEIR KIDS WERE GOING TO BE GOING INTO WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND SO THEY CAME TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS.
SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE GET INTO THE CONVERSATION OF RESTRICTING PEOPLE BASED ON A GEOGRAPHY, BASED ON AN IDEOLOGY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE GET INTO VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE TERRITORY.
UM, SO ULTIMATELY, UM, I THINK THE MORE COMMENTS, THE BETTER WE, WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.
WE WANT PEOPLE AND PARENTS TO BE TALKING TO US AND TELLING US WHAT THEY'RE SEEING OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC, WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES ARE.
WE WANT TEACHERS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE TO COME AND GIVE US PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO GENERALLY I'M AGAINST ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, BASED ON SOME TYPE OF FACTOR.
I DO THINK THAT THE PROCESS AND, AND HOW PEOPLE GIVE COMMENT, UM, COULD PROBABLY BE PERFECTED IN A WAY, BUT, UM, I'M NOT FOR RESTRICTING PEOPLE BASED ON TYPE OF CLASSIFICATION.
CAN I RESPOND REAL QUICK TO CLARIFY SOMETHING? YES, PLEASE.
SO I DON'T THINK WE RESTRICT IT TO PEOPLE, BUT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE HAPPENS IS THAT THE PEOPLE, AND I THINK IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BUFORD COUNTY, BUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN BUFORD COUNTY, LIKE YOU SAID, UM, WHEN OUR LAST PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE WAS A GRADUATE OF BUFORD HIGH FROM DETROIT, OBVIOUSLY SHE HAS AN INTEREST.
UM, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT PRIORITIZING PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT HAVE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO THE SCHOOL AND MAKING SURE, LIKE YOU SAID, RACHEL, THAT THE, OUR DOCTOR WAS BESKY THAT THE PROCESS IS SUCH THAT WE CAN ASSAM DISTRICTS.
IN FACT, A LOT OF DISTRICTS PRIORITIZE STUDENT COMMENTS THAT THEY'RE FIRST TO GO.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN WE HAD OUR, UM, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE HAD ABOUT AN HOUR'S WORTH OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, WHERE TWO STUDENTS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEIR, YOU KNOW, SOME VOICES.
UM, WE JUST GOT, I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF THE PROCESS AND NOT NECESSARILY PUT IN RESTRICTIONS, BUT TO THAT END, I WOULD ALSO SAY MOST, UH, PUBLIC POLICY COMMENTS THAT I LOOKED AT, HAVE A PURPOSE STATEMENT, AND I THINK WE DO AS WELL.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT STARTING POINT.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE GOAL OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN HOW DO WE DESIGN A PROCESS THAT MEETS THOSE GOALS? THANK YOU, MS. BOATWRIGHT OR CLARIFY, UM, MR.
UM, I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT DR SAID.
I THINK EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS I'M OPPOSED TO ANY ATTEMPT TO CUT OFF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE CAN ASSIGN AS MUCH VALIDITY AS WE WANT AFTER WE HEAR THE COMMENT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT'S, UH, A WING ON THE EXTREME OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, WE KNOW THAT AFTER WE HEAR THE COMMENT AND WE JUST DISREGARD IT.
I JUST SAID, WELL, THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY VALUE, SO I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO BE MAKING ANY, ANY CHANGES TO THIS.
UM, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY, UH, I DON'T SEE A BIG PROBLEM WITH IT.
DO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, SORRY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M UM, JUST QUESTION TH TH THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UM, WE HAVE THIS POLICY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE TO FILL OUT THE PUBLIC COMMON CARD.
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AND I DON'T THINK WE REALLY ENFORCE THIS POLICY IN TERMS OF, UM, REQUIRING THEM TO WRITE WHAT TOPIC THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.AND WE HAVE NO WAY WHEN WE DO THE CALL-INS TO, UM, DO THAT EITHER.
UNLESS WHEN THEY EMAIL, UH, ROBIN, THEY NEED TO WRITE THE TOPIC.
I, I HAVE, THEY DO DO THAT WHEN THEY EMAIL, THEY DO GIVE ME THE TOPIC.
ALSO THE TIME THEY GIVE ME THE TOPIC.
UM, THOSE WOULD BE THE PROCESS ISSUES THAT I WOULD SEE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, HOLD PEOPLE TO THOSE.
I KNOW, UH, BACK WHEN I WAS DOING THE, UM, RESPONSES TO PEOPLE FOR, UH, DOING THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I WOULD HAVE THOSE BLUE SLIPS, SOMETIMES THERE WAS NOTHING WRITTEN ON IT AS TO WHAT THEY WERE, WHAT THE TOPIC WAS NOW.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK THE PROCESS WITH THE PHONE CALL-INS, I THINK THAT THAT DOES, AS LONG AS WE ARE ALLOWING, UM, BOARD MEMBERS TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY, I THINK WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY AND TO GIVE THEIR COMMENTS VIRTUALLY.
I DO THINK THAT, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THEY NEED TO STATE THEIR NAME WHEN THEY GET ON THE PHONE, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES ROBIN WILL TELL THEM, BUT THEN THEY JUST GO RIGHT IN TO THEIR, THEIR SPIEL.
SO THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE MS. BOATWRIGHT IS COMING FROM.
SHE'S TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT PROACTIVE, I THINK, IN WHAT SHE SEES AS POLITICAL THINGS COMING DOWN, DOWN THE PIPE.
UM, I ALSO THINK WE ALSO HAVE RULES THAT WE JUST, UH, REGARDING THE, THE SPEAKERS, UM, THAT WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT TIGHTENING UP ENFORCEMENT.
UM, LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REFRAIN FROM, UH, RACIAL COMMENTS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.
UM, SO I, I THINK WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN WHERE SPEAKERS HAVE CALLED OUT, UM, SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND WE HAVEN'T STOPPED IT.
WE HAVEN'T SAID THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
SO THOSE MIGHT BE THE THINGS THAT I, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND DECIDE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THOSE AS POLICY, UM, AS THEY STILL ARE.
AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM, THEN WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ENFORCING THEM.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT ENFORCING, UM, IT'S LIKE ON A SPEAKER CARD, WE DON'T GET THEIR ADDRESS.
WE D UM, SOME OF THEM JUST PUT THEIR NAMES ON THERE, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD IN THE PAST, NOT TO WITHHOLD THEM FOR SPEAKING, BUT THEY DON'T FILL OUT THE CAR.
THEY JUST PUT THEIR NAME ON THERE.
THEY MIGHT PUT THE TOPIC ON THERE.
THEY DON'T PUT THEIR HOME ADDRESS.
THEY DON'T PUT THEIR TELEPHONE NUMBER.
SO IN, IN TIGHTEN UP THE PROCESS, WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO DOING THOSE THINGS, OR THEY CAN'T SPEAK, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A CHICK THAT'S YOU ALL'S CALL, UM, MR. CAMPBELL? UH, YES.
UM, THE POLICY WE HAVE NOW FOR PROBABLY A COMMENT, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD.
I THINK MAYBE IF WE WANT TO ADD THINGS LIKE ROBIN JUST SAID TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PUT THE ADDRESS ON IT.
NO, BUT ANY OTHER ISSUES I DON'T SEE.
UM, NO, NO ISSUES TOO MUCH WITH THAT.
AND FARMERS AS CALLING A, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY THAT I CAN REMEMBER, UM, ADDRESSING DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, WE HAD A COUPLE WHEN, UH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE MASS, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE, YOU CAN NOT STOP YOU FROM SAYING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE GO A LITTLE TOO FAR, UH, IN TRYING TO CONTROL FOLKS CANNOT DO THAT.
UM, SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD POLICY AND I WOULD SUGGEST, LIKE ROBIN SAID, MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY PUT THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS ON, ON THERE AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO CONOSCO DISCUSS AND LEAVE IT AND LEAD THE POLICY IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ENOUGH POLICY ALREADY.
WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DAYS WHEN WE HAVE A BIG OLD BOOK OF POLICIES.
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YOU, MR. CAMPBELL.I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE RESTRICT PEOPLE FROM SPEAKING.
WE ALREADY DO RESTRICT PEOPLE FROM SPEAKING, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK WE ENFORCE IT.
THAT COMMENTS NEED TO BE LIMITED TO THINGS IN THE DOMAIN OF THE BOARD.
UM, THAT IS A RESTRICTION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, IN OUR CURRENT POLICY, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT CALLING IN IN FACT, TECHNICALLY IF YOU READ OUR POLICY, A PHONE CALL IN IS A VIOLATION OF POLICY.
SO WE SHOULD ADD THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT.
SECONDLY, I THINK WE CAN HAVE VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION JUST LIKE BOARD MEMBERS DO VIA ZOOM, WHERE THEY COULD FILL OUT.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
WE USE TECHNOLOGY, THEY FILL OUT AN ONLINE FORM, SIMILAR TO A COMMENT CARD VERSUS EMAILING OUR ASSISTS, OUR BOARD ASSISTANT, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD FEEDBACK OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMAILED AND NOT RECEIVED A CALL, WHICH MEANS WE'RE BEING INCLUSIVE, WHICH IS A DANGEROUS THING WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO STAY NON-PARTISAN.
UM, SO I THINK WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A CAR THAT COULD BE FILLED OUT ONLINE.
THESE ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD GENERATE A RECEIPT TO THE PERSON THAT THEIR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND THAT THEY CAN EXPECT A ZOOM LINK.
AND THEN THEY CAN SIT IN THE WAITING ROOM OF THE ZOOM OF A ZOOM MEETING, JUST LIKE PEOPLE IN PERSON UNTIL THEY ARE CALLED BY THE CHAIR, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PARENTS WHO ARE DOING SPORTS AND PICK UP AND DINNER AT SIX 15, TRYING TO KEEP THEIR PHONE WITH THEM UNTIL WE GET TO THEM.
SO I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE CHANGE OUR POLICY TO RESTRICT PEOPLE'S PARTICIPATION.
I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE USE TECHNOLOGY, THAT WE STREAMLINE OUR POLICY, THAT WE HAVE A PURPOSE FOR OUR BOARD PUBLIC COMMENT AS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE, WHAT THE PURPOSE OF ASKING THE PUBLIC TO COME AND FEEL FREE TO SPEAK AT OUR MEETINGS IS IT TO INFORM A LOT OF PEOPLE RESTRICTED TO ITEMS ON AN AGENDA, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS A REASONABLE RESTRICTION.
UM, AND THEN WE LOOK AT OUR POLICY AND MAKE SURE OUR POLICY SUPPORTS THAT THE OTHER THING WE DO NOT ENFORCE A LOT OF OUR POLICY ALREADY.
WE DON'T ENFORCE THE 30 MINUTE LIMIT.
SO IF WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO ENFORCE IT OR TALK ABOUT IT, TAKE IT OUT.
OR WHEN IT GETS TO IT AT 30 MINUTES, THERE HAS TO BE A MOTION TO KEEP GOING.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO JUST BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT IS I'M NOT BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I AM TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE BECAUSE THERE ARE NATIONAL MOVEMENTS OF FOOT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
THAT GOAL IS TO DISRUPT AND DETER SCHOOL BOARDS FROM DOING THEIR BUSINESS.
IF THAT HAPPENS TO US, WE SHOULD HAVE A VERY SOLID CONTEMPORARY POST PANDEMIC POLICY THAT WILL HEAD OFF WHERE WE HAVE TO BASICALLY STOP OUR MEETINGS.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS DO AS WELL.
I HAVE FRIENDS ON SCHOOL BOARDS IN MASSACHUSETTS, CALIFORNIA, WASHINGTON, TEXAS, ARIZONA.
THEY ARE SHUTTING DOWN MEETINGS.
IT MAY NEVER HAPPEN TO US, BUT I WILL FEEL LIKE WE MISS AN OPPORTUNITY.
IF IN A FEW MONTHS WE HAVE ONE OF THESE GROUPS TARGET OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND WE'RE TRYING TO RETROACTIVELY, OR ON THE FLY, COME UP WITH A POLICY.
SO THERE'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO POST PANDEMIC, LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS AND MODERNIZE AND STREAMLINE AND ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS AND ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE OF BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHO, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN OUR SCHOOLS, HAVE A FORUM TO MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD.
I SAY SOMETHING, YOUR HAND IS UP, BUT STILL YES.
UM, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT EVERYBODY THAT CALL AND DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, THE MAJORITY AND MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT, I WOULD SAY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY.
THEY HAVE ON TELEPHONE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTERS.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WANT TO DO.
THAT'S JUST MY, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT MR. KELL, I MEAN, WHAT, UM, MR.
UM, I HAVE A PROBLEM ASKING PEOPLE FOR THEIR ADDRESSES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHAT DOES THAT, MY QUESTION IS ASKING THEM FROM AN ADDRESS TO SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE BACK IN THE DAYS.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE, TAKE THREATENED TO THAT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TAKE THAT TO THEIR TWO COLLEAGUES BECAUSE
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Y'ALL, CAN'T HEAR ME.THAT, THAT, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE, THEY TAKE THAT AS A, AS A THREATENING, BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAYS, WHAT PEOPLE WOULD DO WAS GET THE ADDRESS IN AND GET WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON INFORMATION FROM.
AND IT RAN IN RETAIL RETALIATORY TYPE ITALIAN THEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE ASKING PEOPLE WHERE ARE WE, WHAT THE ADDRESS IS.
UM, I CAN SEE ASKING THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT, BUT ASKING THEM WHERE THEY ADDRESS THAT THAT'S REALLY THAT'S REALLY NO HAS NOT THERE THAT, THAT, THAT DOES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO PUT THAT DOWN IN THAT FINE, BUT TH BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S THE QUALIFIED REVENUE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK IN THAT BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS.
AND THAT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO, NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT, AT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SAYING.
SO I, I TURNED TO THAT THAT'S A BIT MUCH ASKING PEOPLE FOR ALL, FOR THE ADDRESSES AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I THINK IF THEY WANT TO PUT THAT IN THERE, THEN THEY CAN BE ABLE TO PUT THAT.
BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS GOING, THAT IS GOING OVERBOARD AND ALMOST VIOLATING THE PEOPLE WHERE WE ASKING THEM THEIR PERSONAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, UH, BEING ELECTED AND BEING, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, UH, AND ALSO IN TERMS OF, TO ALSO IN TERMS OF TECHNIQUES, TECHNOLOGY, I DO A GROUPS OF KIDS, WAS THE CAMPBELL.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT AREAS DON'T HAVE TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT TURNS IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE A SACRIFICE.
SO, IN TERMS OF, IF, IF YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED, THAT YOU WENT INTO, THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE READY AND AVAILABLE WHEN SOMEONE CALLS YOU, BECAUSE I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO TOLD ME, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN, UM, I'VE BEEN CALLED, I I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN CALLED.
I MEAN, I MEAN, I'VE ASKED TO SPEAK, AND THEN I GOT CAUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE AS A BOARD, WE HONESTLY TRIED TO NOT GIVE THE BOY CRIP THAT WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT TIME THAT WE, THAT WE'RE DOING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU STARTED TO DO PUBLIC COMMENTS, DID THEY SAY, WELL, HOW WE'RE MAKING A SACRIFICE AND WE'RE BEING THERE IS THAT PERSON, THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO, THEY HAVE TO PUT ON HIS, ON THEMSELVES TO BE THERE AND BE ABLE AND WILLING TO THERE RECEIVE, RECEIVED THAT PHONE CALL SO THAT THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, BUT I DIDN'T GET THAT TO THE POLICY.
IF IT'S NOT THERE, THEN I DO A GROUP MRS. BOAT RIGHT ON THAT.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.
SO I THINK THE LAST WORD DOCTOR WAS NEVSKY, AND THEN LET'S, UM, BRING US TO, UH, SOME DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I AGREE WITH MR. CAMPBELL ON, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY PART OF IT.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT COVID IS THAT WE DID SEE MUCH MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO WHETHER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, PEOPLE DIDN'T ALL AGREE ON, WE DID HAVE MUCH MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND I THINK B THE EXPANSION OF TECHNOLOGY IN OUR MEETINGS HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL, OR AT LEAST I FELT IT WAS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE ON IT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND MR. SMITH'S, UM, CONCERN ABOUT ADDRESSES.
UM, IT IS PRESENTLY ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, AND I BELIEVE OUR POLICY BASICALLY STATES THAT, UM, IT IS THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON CAN BE HEARD.
SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT POLICY OR REVISIT IT, UM, I THINK THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK TO.
WE HAVE HEARD, UM, A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.
UH, IF I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE WITHIN THIS COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT PERHAPS, UM, WE COULD HAVE JUST A POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING JUST ON REVISING THE POLICY, UM, MAYBE TO INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE FELON IN COULD BE AVAILABLE, BUT HAVE MORE OF A DISCUSSION ON WHAT A POLICY CHANGE COULD LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, MAYBE PRIORITIZING COMMENTS, PUTTING INTO OUR POLICY, BEING ABLE TO PHONE IN AND HAVE A PURPOSE STATEMENT ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT QUESTION ABOUT WHY A PHYSICAL ADDRESS, MAYBE NOT JUST MAYBE JUST AN EMAIL ADDRESS, UM, CAN THE WHOLE PROCESS BE CHANGED.
AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS WE DEDICATE ONE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING JUST TO DELVE INTO THE ACTUAL WORDING, UM, WITH THE COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL, PERHAPS I COULD WORK ON A DRAFT, UH, TO BRING FORWARD THAT MIGHT INCLUDE SOME OF THESE, AND THEN WE'D AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK FROM ANY THOUGHTS ON WHERE TO GO FORWARD ON THIS MADAM CHAIR? YES.
MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE IF, IF THERE IS, UH, A DRAFT, UH, WITH ANY CHANGES THAT IT BE DONE WITH TRACK CHANGES,
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SO WE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL AND THE DRAFT.UM, I KNOW MOLLY INCLUDED IN THE CHAT THAT IF WE WERE TO GO WITH A ZOOM LINK INVITATION, THAT THERE COULD BE SOME TECHNOLOGY CONCERNS WITH THAT.
SO, UH, WITH THE COMMITTEES, UM, APPROVAL, IF I COULD WORK WITH MOLLY AND ROBIN, UM, AND JUST KIND OF BRING FORWARD A DRAFT SO THAT WE COULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, OUR PRESENT POLICY INCLUDES SOME OF THESE CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED TODAY, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE FROM WHICH TO WORK WITH NEXT TIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO FOR THIS ONE, ROBIN, YOU ALSO AT THE TIME WITH YOU, BUT YOU COULD JUST KIND OF REVIEW SOME OF THOSE.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THAT, UH, IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
THE NEXT THING THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA IS THE FACILITY'S USE POLICY.
THIS WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE YOU BROUGHT UP DURING, UM, OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
AND SO IT IS NOW BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE HERE.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS OH, WOW.
UH, OH, Y'ALL WE ALL ARE JUST NOT GETTING TOO, I THOUGHT, OKAY.
I THOUGHT Y'ALL MAYBE HAD MET ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
UM, UH, UM, BASICALLY TO GO IF I COULD JUST JEFF FOR EVERYBODY'S EDIFICATION, THE POLICY COMMITTEE LAST MET IN OCTOBER AND, UM, NOT ALL THE MEMBERS OF THAT POLICY COMMITTEE ARE CURRENTLY ON THIS POLICY COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, IT IS NOW JUST, JUST TO IT.
AND I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE ON THE PHONE WITH US SO THAT YOU CAN BRING UP YOUR CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR POLICY.
WELL, I BELIEVE MRS. FRIDGES ARE ALL DUE RESPECT THAT THE NIGHT THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THE BOARD CHOSE TO SEND IT TO THE POLICY THAT YOU WERE THERE.
AND I THINK I SPOKE TO IT THAT NIGHT.
AND THEN TO, IN TERMS OF WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IS, WHAT EXACTLY, I MEAN, THE COURT, THE COURT, THE QUESTION IS, UH, WHAT'S THE POLICY FOR, FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO, UH, TO, TO BASICALLY TO, TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING ON THE, ON THE CAMPUS THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.
UM, I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE HAVE A, UH, A NEW MEETING ABOUT SOMETHING IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A HISTORY.
SO, SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.
SO BASICALLY YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, UH, OB EIGHT, SEVEN, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT DEVELOP AND CONSISTENTLY ADMINISTER FACILITIES, USE GUIDELINES, DELINEATING PERMITTED USES A POLITICAL WHOLE FLEET FEE STRUCTURE, UM, INSURANCE DAMAGE, IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE? THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN HERE THAT WHAT BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS POLICY.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? UM, MR. UH, HOW YOU, HOW YOU INTERPRET STUFF MAY NOT BE HIGH IN TERMS OF MY QUESTION IS, I MEAN, MY, MY STATEMENT IS CLEAR AS DAY AND IN TERMS OF WHAT I'M ASKING MY, WHY, WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND HOW THE BOARD INTERPRETATION BOARD, A BOARD MEMBER USING A BOARD MEMBER TO, UH, TO USE THE FACILITIES, THE WHOLE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DO THEIR JOB.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET THE CLARIFICATION ON HOW THAT'S INTERPRETED AND HOW DOES HOW'S THE BOARD SEE THAT THAT'S IT, THAT Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL ARE THE, THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE I'M COMMITTED TO HIS WORK.
SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, UM, JUST AS I SAID, MS. BOATWRIGHT, UM, REQUESTED THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, SHE WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY SHE'S LOOKING FOR.
SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE HERE, MR. SMITH ON, IS IT, OH, HE EIGHT, SEVEN THAT YOU WANT AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT OR POLICY, UM, SELF POLICY PUT IN HERE THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE, UM, NOT REQUIRED TO, UH, FOLLOW THIS AND THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE, HAVE, HAVE TOTAL ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUILDINGS FOR BOARD MEMBERS, REASONS.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO GIVE US A STARTING POINT HERE.
HI, LET ME GET THE HISTORY, HOW THIS CAME ABOUT WAS I, AS A BOARD MEMBER, I WAS TRYING TO HAVE A, A, A COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH, WITH THE, UH, WITH MY DISTRICT.
AND I WAS UP AGAINST A WHOLE BUNCH OF, OF LEFT TO RIGHT.
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EVERY TURN THAT WAS THERE WAS, THERE WAS A PROBLEM.AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AND IN TURN, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE PUBLIC FACILITY WHERE I, WHERE I MAY ELECTED OFFICIAL AT TO HOW THEY CAN EMERGENCY MEAN TO GET FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WORD COMMUNITY HAS HAD TO SAY AND SAID AT EVERY TURN, UH, THERE WAS QUESTIONING.
AND SO THAT AT THAT POINT ALSO, WHEN I WANT YOU TO HAVE A MEETING, THEN I GOT A CALL FROM ONE FROM THE CONSIDERED THE SEVENTIES PERSON.
AND HE, AND HE TOLD ME, UH, THAT IT WAS NOT HOW HE INTERPRETED AND ALSO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ME, POSSIBLY GETTING READY TO RUN FOR OFFICE IN THAT, THAT MIGHT BE WHAT I WANT TO USE IT FOR.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE ROOM FOR ANYONE, FOR, UH, FOR ANYONE OR ANY POSITION.
UH, LET ME FOR ANYONE'S PERSONAL INTERPRETATION, I THINK IT SHOULD BE CLEAR, UH, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A ELECTED OFFICIAL OR A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE BUILDING TO DO COMMUNITY.
THEY THERE TO DO THE WORK THEY ARE LIKE TO DO, HOW THEY DIDN'T, NO ONE SHOULD GET INTO GETTING IN THE WAY OF THAT.
AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
I WANTED THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND YOUR DISTRICT THEN, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UH, OF, UH, OF CLEAR TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNITY CHANGE COMMUNICATION, THAT, THAT, THAT SHOULDN'T THAT'S, THAT SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT IS HELD AGAINST YOU.
AND IT SHOULDN'T, IT SHOULDN'T BE, IT SHOULD NOT BE ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION OR STAFF.
UH I'M UH, I THINK I SAW THAT YOU'RE ON, UH, UH, IS, IS THAT NOT REALLY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THAT NIGHT? SO IF YOU COULD, JUST FOR A SECOND, BEFORE YOU ASKED MR.
UM, SO UNDER OEA FACILITIES, IT DOES SAY, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL DEVELOP AND CONSISTENTLY ADMINISTER FACILITIES, USE GUIDELINES, DELINEATING PERMITTED USES APPLICABLE FEE STRUCTURE AND CLEAR USER EXPECTATIONS, INCLUDING INSURANCE, CLEAN UP SECURITY BEHAVIOR AND DAMAGE REPAIR.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE ASKING THIS POLICY COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT BOARD MEMBERS THERE SHOULD BE IN THE POLICY.
IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? NO, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT FORM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE NOW IS ACTUALLY A NEW FORM BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THIS COKE OFFICER YOU TAKE PLACE, THEY DIDN'T EVEN REALLY HAVE A REAL FORM.
I DON'T SEE THE FORM THAT I HAVE NOW, BUT, UM, I'M, I JUST WANT TO, LET ME SEE WHAT, UH, MR. SCRIBD JUST SAID THAT I'M ALSO LOOKING, LOOKING, LOOKING FOR THE, UH, THE, FOR MYSELF, IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND.
SO LET ME THIS TIME, WE'LL START ON MR. STEVEN DREW.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I'M NOT LOOKING AT A FORM RIGHT NOW.
I'M LOOKING AT OUR POLICY WITH JUST WHAT WE'RE DICTATED TO, TO WORK ON.
SO, MR.
THE CONVERSATION, I THINK YOU YOU'VE NAILED THE ISSUE.
MR. SMITH FEELS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PREFERENCE GIVEN TO ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I BELIEVE THE CONVERSATION THAT NIGHT WAS THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME GUIDELINES AS ALL OTHER CITIZENS, BECAUSE WHEN THE BOARD IS NOT IN SESSION, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.
WE'RE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CITIZEN.
SO THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE.
SO ON WHAT, WHAT THINGS ARE AVAILABLE TO A BOARD MEMBER? I BELIEVE THE CONVERSATION WAS THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A BOARD MEMBER WHEN THE BOARD IS NOT IN SESSION.
SO, AND I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, AND OBVIOUSLY WILL'S GOT A DIFFERENT OPINION ON THAT.
HE FEELS THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO SOMETHING SPECIAL.
SO THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE.
AND I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT ON IT.
UH, TRICIA, DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THE POLICY TO SAY THAT BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO EVERY OTHER CITIZEN? AND I CAN TELL YOU, THERE'S NO WAY, THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT.
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UM, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, W WE, WE STRIVE NOT TO SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM CITIZENS.UM, SO THAT'S MY COMPLETE RECOLLECTION.
AND THE A R FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR SCHOOL FACILITIES TO BE USED, BUT EVERYBODY THAT REQUESTS TO USE IT HAS TO PROVIDE INSURANCE, UM, AND HAS TO FILL OUT THE APPROPRIATE FORMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CLEANUP IS DONE SECURITY INSURANCE DAMAGE REPAIR.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE AS BEAVER COUNTY FOR COUNTY CITIZENS COULD NOT APPLY TO UTILIZE THE BUILDING, BUT WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, THANK YOU, MR.
I WAS JUST GONNA, UM, GIVE A COMMENT.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE BY THE, THE AR THAT THERE IS A PERMISSIBLE USE, UM, FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HEARINGS, BUT IT'S LIMITED TO FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL UNITS OF GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF AN INFORMAL THING WITH MY COUNTERPART ON COUNTY COUNCIL, AND WE'VE DONE IT AT THE REC CENTER.
UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT WORKED OUT FINE FOR US, BUT THAT OPTION MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OF, YOU KNOW, USING THE REC CENTERS DURING SPECIFIC TIME PERIODS OR WHATNOT.
SO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT OF THAT, WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE CITIZENS, BUT I DO FEEL THAT THERE IS VALUE IN US BEING ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND GIVE THEM UPDATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT PUBLIC FORUMS OR MEETINGS.
UM, AND IF WE ARE DOING THAT, WE ARE ACTING IN OUR OFFICIAL ELECTED CAPACITY, UM, JUST NOT, UM, AS THE BODY.
SO I THINK THAT I UNDERSTAND MR. SMITH'S CONCERNED, BUT I ALSO, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES THAT ARE IN THE AR AND BY OUR POLICIES AND PRESENTLY THE USE OF OUR SCHOOL FACILITIES FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HEARINGS IS LIMITED TO, UM, THOSE UNITS OF GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND NOT TO ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT'S EVER USED ANY OF OUR FACILITIES FOR PROVIDING A PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, AND WHAT KIND OF THE HISTORICAL, UM, PROCEDURE HAS BEEN, I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING THAT, UM, BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS ON IT.
UM, MR. SMITH ALLUDED TO ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF, AND THAT IS CAMPAIGNING, BUT NONE OF OUR FACILITIES COULD USE FOR CAMPAIGNING.
AND THAT IS A DIFFICULT CALL SOMETIMES TO MAKE, UH, ABOUT WHAT, WHAT IS CAMPAIGNING, WHAT ISN'T CAMPAIGNING, UM, AS DR WAS NEVSKY SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A GROUP OF CITIZENS AND THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION AND THE WAY YOU RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY YOUR CAMPAIGN.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST WANT TO AVOID, TRIED GETTING INVOLVED IN THAT GRAY AREA, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION, UM, UH, ON THE, ON THE USE.
AND I'M NOT AWARE OF POLITICIANS BEING ABLE TO USE OUR FACILITIES.
I KNOW THERE WAS A BROUHAHA ABOUT, UM, SOME ORGANIZATION THAT CAME IN, I THINK THE WHALE BRANCH AND USED THEIR FACILITY.
AND WE JUST WANT TO STEER CLEAR OF ALL THAT.
AND THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES.
I MEAN, THERE'S LIBRARY AS RACHEL POINTED OUT THERE'S LIBRARIES, THERE'S REC CENTERS, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER, OTHER THINGS YOU CAN USE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT.
UM, THANK YOU, SISTER, BEEN DRY.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT DID HAVE A MEETING AT ST.
HELENA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, NOT TOO LONG AGO, UM, FOR COMMUNITY PURPOSES.
HOWEVER, I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS HAD TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, HAD TO PROVE THAT THERE WAS INSURANCE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A GATHERING OF PEOPLE THERE, YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE ANY LIABILITY.
SO, UM, BUT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS THAT INSTANCE.
AND AGAIN, UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, TO DO SO MS. ROBOT, UH, YES, I, I AGREE.
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LOOKING AT THE AR AS WELL, AND I AGREE WITH RACHEL'S INTERPRETATION OF IT, THAT IT SAYS ANY FEDERAL STATE OR LOCAL UNIT OF GOVERNMENT, MEANING THAT THE TOTAL AS A WHOLE, UM, I, IT ALSO SAYS IN THAT PARAGRAPH THAT WITHOUT CHARGE, EXCEPT FOR ADDITIONAL SUPERVISION AND OR CUSTODIAL SERVICES, SO THERE'S A CHARGE, UM, INVOLVED, UM, AS THERE SHOULD BE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ASK OUR PEOPLE TO WORK OVERTIME OR EXTRA HOURS, UM, FOR NOT FOR OUR BENEFIT, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE GROUP OF A DIFFERENT GROUP, UM, THEY SHOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT.MASKEY, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I THINK COVID PUT A HALT TO THAT A BIT, UM, HAVE HAD CONSTITUENT MEETINGS, UM, AND WE USE THE LIBRARIES AND I BELIEVE THERE'S LIBRARIES IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN AREA TO, TO LOOK.
UM, I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE AND IT DOES REQUIRE, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND APPLY AND IMPROVE THAT THEY, UH, HAVE WHAT'S REQUESTED OF PEOPLE OF ANY CITIZEN WHO WOULD WANT TO USE OUR BUILDING.
THANK YOU, MR. SMITH, FIRST OFF, LET ME START OFF BY ADDRESSING THE, UH, THING THAT MR. SCRIPTURE SAID, IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE CAMPAIGNING, UH, W W STAFF MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE A COMMENT ABOUT ME CAMPAIGNING OR HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR WHATNOT.
WHEN I THOUGHT IT WAS THE TIME THAT I WOULD NEED TO HAVE COMMUNITY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS VERY, UH, DETRIMENTAL AND, AND, AND, AND VERY SLANDEROUS, BUT ANYWAYS, BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, UM, I THINK THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO GO DOWN TO TRY TO, UH, UNDERSTAND RIVER RIVER THERE, WHEREVER THEIR CAMPAIGN.
AND I THINK WE ALL TOOK THE OATH OF OFFICE, UH, TO BE, TO BE QUITE, TO BE QUITE FRANK LAB, THAT WE ALL TAKE OATH OF OFFICE.
AND IF WE'RE GOING IN TO SCHOOL, OUR SCHOOL BUILDING, AND WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING IN ROUGH, AND IT SHOULD BE RESTED IN, HE STEPPED TO THE POLICY AND YOU LET HIM FINISH AND REFERENCE TO WHAT, UM, AND REFERENCE TO WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS MEAN TOWARDS, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD STUFF.
THEN I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT THIS, THAT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR, UM, FOR TH TH THERE'S OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION.
AND, AND, AND, AND CLEARLY THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S ROOM LEFT FOR INTERPRETATION FROM STAFF.
AND ALSO MY QUESTION IS TO DR.
RODRIGUEZ HAS A, AS, AS A SUPERINTENDENT, HE HAS COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
DOES HE GOES TO THE SAME, OUR POLICY WHO APPROVE HIS COMMUNITY TOWN HALLS WHEN HE HAPPENED AS A SUPERINTENDENT.
SO THE, SO ARE WE SAYING THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS SPECIAL PRIVILEGES THAT AS BOARD MEMBERS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO OUR JOB? I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT HE DOES HAVE, HE DOES, HE DOES, HE DOES HAVE SEVERAL TOWN HALLS HIMSELF WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO IN TERMS OF THAT, WHAT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT PROCESS LIKE, AND TURN AND TURN IN TERMS OF FAIRNESS, BUT ISN'T IT, YOU HAD LIKE THIS POLICY COMMITTEE TO CHANGE.
IF YOU COULD BRING THAT FORTH, AND THEN HE COULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, PLEASE DON'T BE DISPLEASED, LET ME FINISH, FINISH, FINISH MY THOUGHTS WHEREVER YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM OR NOT.
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE DID TAKE OUT THE TIME TO HAVE THIS MEETING.
AND YOU'RE ASKING ME AND I, AND I'M, AND I'M, AND I'M TELLING YOU THE ANSWERS, AND APPARENTLY YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE ANSWERS THAT I'M GIVING YOU.
SO PLEASE LET ME FINISH WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE ASKED ME BEFORE YOU WERE, YOU WERE, YOU WERE VERY PACIFIC AND PRECISE ABOUT ME, MAKE ABOUT ME BRINGING EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, AND I'M GIVING YOU, I'M GIVING YOU VARIABLES AND WHERE EVERYONE ELSE IS GIVING YOU VARIABLES, BUT THAT I KNOW THAT I'M GIVING YOU VARIABLES THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR.
AND SO YOU SEE, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO PLEASE BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE POLICY THAT YOU WANT CHANGED.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT VARIABLES IN THE POLICY THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT.
IT'S IN TERMS OF ALSO IN MY COMMUNITY, OUR LIBRARY DOES NOT, DOES NOT PERMIT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AFTER SIX.
SO MOST PEOPLE ARE, THEY DON'T GET OFF UNTIL FIVE AND FIVE 30.
SO THEREFORE MY COMMUNITY, WE CAN NOT HAVE A, CAN MEET COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT PUBLIC LIBRARY BECAUSE IT CLOSED AT SIX O'CLOCK.
SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR ME AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND WHICH WE HAVE SCHOOL BUILDINGS, WHICH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE.
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SO, SO WHEN YOU ASKED IT THAT YOU WOULDN'T ASK, YOU SAID THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO GO AND USE, UH, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY ALONG WITH OUR PERSON.THEN THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE ALSO THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE UTILIZATION ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL SIDE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE, BUT ALSO WE'VE HAD THAT.
WE'VE HAD COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE MEETINGS THAT LEAST MIDDLE SCHOOL ON THIS SIDE OF THE BROAD, WE'VE HAD KIND OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE MEETINGS AT A LAY DOWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT NEEDS IN THE SCHOOLS, BUT NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PROCESS THEY'VE TOOK.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD, THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS AND, AND, AND THE SCREEN AND THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT TOO WE SHOULD, WE SHOULDN'T THINK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO ME THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE FAMILY SPECIAL.
I'M ASKING TO DO MY JOB AFTER I BE STOPPED TO DO THE JOB THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.
MY JOB IS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU BECAUSE YEAH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I ALREADY HAD, THE AMOUNT OF MINUTES.
I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, AS BOARD MEMBERS TO MEET EACH OTHER, TO BE WHERE, TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST EACH OTHER, TO DO EXACTLY OUR JOB, THE POINT BLANK PERIOD.
SO TO CLARIFY, MR. SMITH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU ARE, AS ANY BOARD MEMBER IS ALLOWED TO USE THE SCHOOL SITE, IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING INSURANCE OF REQUISITIONING IT BY THE MONDAY.
SO AS MY UNDERSTANDING, MY RECOLLECTION FROM OUR OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, THAT, THAT SCHOOLS ARE OPEN TO US TO DO THAT IF WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION, AS YOU JUST STATED, WE, YES, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE STATE ETHICS COMMISSION.
WE ALL HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE STATE ETHICS COMMISSION TELLS US.
AND ONE OF THEM IS WE CAN USE NO SCHOOL DISTRICT RESOURCES WHILE CAMPAIGNING.
SO THAT IS THE FINE LINE THAT WE ARE WALKING RIGHT HERE.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, COMMUNITY MEETINGS, YOU, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WE ALL SHOULD ABIDE BY THE RULES BY THE STATE ETHICS COMMISSION.
SO AGAIN, WELL, EVERYBODY'S HEARD WHAT YOU'VE SAID.
IF WE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE AS A CITIZEN, UH, I AGREE, MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THAT THE POLICY ALLOWS FOR USE, UM, AND IF WE FOLLOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE REGULATION AND WE, WE DO EVERYTHING THAT IS OUTLINED ON WHATEVER THE FORM IS, THEN WE CAN UTILIZE THE FACILITY.
IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND PLEASE SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT YOU'VE ASKED MADAM CHAIR THAT IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC CHANGE, UM, BEING PROPOSED BY MR. SMITH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT, UM, EITHER DONE SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW IN THE MEETING OR IN WRITING.
UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS NO SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY.
SO, UM, AS I SIT HERE, I THINK THAT IT, THE POLICY AND REGULATION PROVIDES FOR IT.
WHERE'S THE INSURANCE COME FROM? DOES THE BOARD HAVE INSURANCE FOR THIS? BECAUSE IF I'M, IF I'M, IF I'M IN MY ELECTRIC CAPACITY, THEN I ACTUALLY, I SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE INSURANCE IS COMING FROM, OR DO WE HAVE BOARD INSURANCE? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
THAT THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO RENT THIS VENUE.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, MR. SMITH, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND WHY DON'T YOU, UM, SEND AN EMAIL TO DR.
RODRIGUEZ AND HE CAN FIND OUT FROM MR.
SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
SO COULD WE ASK THAT YOU FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT AND EMAIL DR.
RODRIGUEZ AND ASK ABOUT THAT? NO, I, NO.
I DON'T THINK THAT I'M ASKING THE POLICY COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE POLICY COMMITTEE IS WHERE THIS WAS BOUGHT TO.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S THE POLICY.
I'M STILL ASKING THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS BECAUSE, UH, UH, I, I, THERE IS, THERE IS YOU ASK THE QUESTION AND I ALSO, I GAVE YOU ANOTHER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION, THIS, A WITNESS HE SAID, UNLESS HE, SHE JUST SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE A PURSE, SOMETHING PRECIPITATELY, AND I JUST GAVE YOU SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY
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AS AN INSURANCE.SO WE'RE RENTING AND RENTING IT UNDER MY OFFICIAL TITLE.
WHERE, WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DID THE INSURANCE COME FROM? AND ALSO WHERE DOES THE PAYMENT COME FROM AS WELL AS IN A CUSTODIAN? BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I I'VE SEEN IT BOTH TIMES THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAD IT, I JUST SEE NOT WANTING TO THROW IT IN THE BUILDING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A HUMBLE, A LITTLE CONFUSED TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEPOSITS EFFECTIVE.
IF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THIS IS NOT BEING DONE.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M A LITTLE BAFFLED BY, UH, NOT THE UNWILLINGNESS TO, TO, TO WORK AND GET THIS DONE.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MR.
UM, IF YOU WANTED TO ASSIGN TO THE COMMITTEE AND BRING IT TO THE FULL BOARD AND THE FULL BOARD CAN ASSIGN IT TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL.
UM, THE POSITION YOU'RE TAKING AND REALLY WILL IS UNTENABLE.
UM, IF YOU CAN'T ASSIGN THINGS TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT.
AND THAT IS ASK THE FULL BOARD TO ASSIGN THAT TASK TO THE COMMITTEE.
I DON'T THINK THAT I WAS ASSIGNING IT OUT.
WHAT I, WHAT I STATED WAS THAT MRS. DOCTOR WOULDN'T STATED THAT MR. SMITH ASKED ME TO CLEARLY BRING SOMETHING FORWARD.
AND SO, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT SHE SAID, THEN WHAT I BROUGHT FORWARD WAS THE INSURANCE.
AND W AND IF THAT'S THE CASE IN THE END, THE POLICY COMMITTEE IS HANDLING IT.
THEN MRS. FRIDGES TOOK THE ONUS TO PUT THE ONUS ON ME TO GET THAT DONE.
AND FOR EVERY
IF WE MAY, WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
I WILL FIND OUT ABOUT THE INSURANCE FOR YOU, MR. SMITH.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS POLICY FOR MASCOTS.
AND MR. SMITH, THIS ALSO, I BELIEVE WHY SOMETHING THAT YOU ASKED FOR OH, EIGHT POINT 10, IF I MAY, UM, ALUMINATE EVERYONE, WHAT THIS STEPS, THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ENSURE THAT ANY COMMITTEES APPOINTED TO RECOMMEND SCHOOL DAYS UNDERSTAND THAT FINAL APPROVAL IS SCHOOL NAMES, MASCOTS AND COLORS IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION.
BITTY SCHOOLS MAY NOT BE NAMED OR INDIVIDUALS SEE ADJUNCT FACILITIES, CLINIC, ATHLETIC FACILITIES, MAYBE NEIGHBOR, INDIVIDUALS AS SPECIFIED IN THE DISTRICT ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, AND D THE BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE NAME OF ANY FACILITY OR ADJUNCT FACILITY WHEN IT DEEMS IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT.
SO AGAIN, MR. SMITH, IF YOU COULD, UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND AS TO WHY YOU ASKED THIS TO GO TO POLICY COMMITTEE.
UH, I DON'T THINK I REMEMBER ME ASKING US TO GO, I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BOATRIGHT I BELIEVE ASKED TO GO TO POLICY COMMITTEE.
HONESTLY, I DON'T REMEMBER IT IS BEING BROUGHT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.
UM, AS A RESULT, I HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH, UM, THE CONCERN OVER THE MASCOT DEPICTION, THE WAY IT'S BEING REPRESENTED AT BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT DOES HAS A DIFFERENT MEMORY THAN I HAVE THAT MR. STORE AVENGER? WELL, THANK YOU.
I THINK THERE IS AN ISSUE WHERE THE HEAD YARD IS INCONSISTENT WITH THIS POLICY.
UM, AND I BELIEVE I SPELLED THAT OUT BECAUSE THE, THE, THE AAR SAYS IT'S RESTRICTED TO NEW SCHOOLS, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THIS WARNING.
AND I DO BELIEVE IN THIS BOOK, I BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.
ARE YOU STILL WITH US RIGHT NOW? YES, I ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
I SUGGEST THIS A WHILE AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ROBERT SMALLS LEADER, UH, CHANGING FROM INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY TO LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.
AND I MADE THE COMMENT AT THE TIME THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR CHANGING MASCOTS.
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SO I REMEMBER BRINGING THAT UP.UM, AND I DON'T, I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD WITH REFERENCE TO THE DEPICTION OF THE MASCOT, UM, WAS MORE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A POLICY ABOUT DEPICTIONS OF MASCOTS AND LOGOS.
SO I THINK THOSE TWO THINGS MAYBE ARE GETTING, I THINK IT'D BE SMART TO HAVE A POLICY FOR CHANGING MASCOTS OR NAMES, UM, BECAUSE THAT CAN GET INTO SOME VERY, UH, DICEY EMOTIONAL AREAS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER TO LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO HAVE A POLICY ABOUT HOW MASCOTS ARE DEPICTED, WHICH I THINK WOULD FALL.
I THINK WE'RE USING THE TERM LOGO.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE TOTALLY CORRECT TERM, BUT I THINK SEE THOSE AS TWO SLIGHTLY SEPARATE, OR ONE'S A MORE, A FULL INVESTIGATION OF, OF THE OTHER ISSUE.
ONE IS, IF THE AR IS INCONSISTENT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE, UM, ADMINISTRATION LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY EDITS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO BRING IT IN LINE, UM, WITH WHAT'S HERE IN OUR POLICY.
UM, I KNOW THAT I POINTED OUT IN OUR MEETING WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION RECENTLY THAT THE PRECURSOR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UM, OF 10 SAYS THAT COMMITTEES APPOINTED TO RECOMMEND SCHOOL NAMES, UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THEN A TALKS ABOUT NAMES, MASCOTS, AND COLORS.
SO I DO THINK THAT THERE IS PROBABLY SOME MASSAGING THAT CAN BE DONE TO TEND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS VERY CLEAR OF WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY ASK ADMINISTRATION FOR AN UPDATED AR ONCE WE DO, UM, MASSAGE THIS, IF NECESSARY.
SO, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I'M HEARING, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, DR.
AND YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT, UM, E A 2010 SHOULD HAVE SOME REVISION TO IT FOR MORE CLARIFICATION TO IT.
UM, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO, HOW WOULD THE COMMITTEE LIKES TO PROCEED WITH GETTING SOME CLARIFICATION TO OH, EIGHT, 10? UM, WELL, SORRY, MADAM CHAIR.
I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.
UM, MY RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THIS, WHERE WE HAVE A COPY OF THE CURRENT AR, SO WE CAN MESH THAT AGAINST THIS AND THEN MAKE, UH, UH, WE EIGHT, 10 MORE CLEAR, UH, AND THEN PUT THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT BACK ONTO THE, THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE AR HERE IN FORT KNOX.
MS.
I, I THINK I NEED TO SEE THE AR I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND IT, BUT IT'S BETTER TO JUST PUT IT OFF TO ANOTHER MEETING.
I WOULD AGREE SO THAT WE CAN, UM, AND IF WE, IF I COULD ASSIGN SOMEONE TO WORK AS A FORMER TEACHER, THAT I AM, UM, IF WE COULD JUST REALLY LOOK AT THAT, UH, BEFORE, PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, WITH IDEAS OF, UM, HOW, HOW WE UNDERSTAND AND WHERE IT SHOULD GO AND SO ON, THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL, DAVID GOODBYE.
OH, YOU MEAN, OH, SOMETHING 28.
THEN WE WILL ADD THAT, UM, AS WELL AS OUR FIRST, UM, ASSIGNMENT FROM TODAY TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR ROBUST AGENDA IS A NEPOTISM, A R H R S SIX STAFF ASSETS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS WENT TO POLICY.
CAUSE MY POINT WAS, AND WE ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN OPERATIONS IS THAT THE AIR IS OUT OF LINE WITH POLICY.
SO JUST TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THE POLICY COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THE NEPOTISM AR UH, IS MORE AGGRESSIVE AND HAS SOME PROBLEMS.
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IN MY OPINION, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT OPERATIONS, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT THE STATE NEPOTISM STANDARD IS.AND I THINK THE EXTRA LANGUAGE THAT WE PUT IN THERE CONFLICTS WITH O E 4.3 AND, UM, OH, WE 4.3, IT SAYS THAT PERSONNEL WILL SELECT THE MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND BEST SUITED CANDIDATES FOR ALL POSITIONS BASED UPON EXPERIENCE, FORMAL EDUCATION, CREDENTIALS, AND CERTIFICATIONS APPROPRIATE FOR THE POSITION ASSIGNED SUFFICIENT STAFF TO MEET THE NEEDS OF EACH SCHOOL.
SO MY POINT WAS THAT, UH, THE NEPOTISM POLICY THAT INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT TEACHERS MAY NOT WORK IN THE SAME BUILDING COULD LEAD TO ANOTHER QUALIFICATION IN TERMS OF WHO YOU'RE RELATED TO OR WHO YOU'RE MARRIED TO, UM, IN OUR PERSONNEL, UH, SELECTIONS.
SO THAT WAS MY POINT IN TERMS OF, AND ONE THING THAT THIS POLICY COMMITTEE, ONE, AT SOME POINT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH AR UNLESS SOMEONE CAN POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A POLICY VIOLATION, RIGHT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD.
SO I'M NOT SURE GOING FORWARD IF THESE KINDS OF ISSUES WILL COME UP AGAIN.
AND THE POLICY COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO, BUT THAT'S THE BACKGROUND ON THIS? I DIDN'T REQUEST TO BE SENT TO POLICY SOMEONE ON EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, DID I BELIEVE, OH, AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S INFORMATION, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD EMOTION FROM OPERATIONS REGARDING THIS AR SO IT WILL BE DISCUSSED BY THE FULL BOARD ON TUESDAY ANYWAYS.
OKAY, MR. ROOHI, UH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS, UM, A DISCONNECT.
I THINK CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANT, UH, IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS TO BE, UM, HAVING SUPERVISORY AUTHORITY TO THE OTHER, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT C BUT C DOES ALLOW FOR, UM, FAMILY MEMBERS TO WORK IN THE SAME BUILDING.
IN FACT, I WAS JUST AT, UH, HILTON HEAD MIDDLE SCHOOL YESTERDAY.
AND THERE WAS A, A WOMAN WHO IS NOW, UH, UH, BMS AT A DIFFERENT SCHOOL, BUT SHE WORKED AT HILTON HEAD MIDDLE SCHOOL WHEN HER MOTHER TAUGHT THERE.
SO THERE ARE ALLOWANCES FOR THAT.
IT JUST THE IMMEDIATE SOUP, THE SOUP, THEY HAVE TO GET TO PROVE ROLE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.
SO I'M THINKING THAT SOMETIMES, MAYBE PRINCIPALS ARE, UH, CHOOSING NOT TO DO TO, UH, EXERCISE THIS AND PERHAPS FOR REASONS KNOWN TO THEM.
AND THIS IS, I'M SORRY, I'LL JUST JUMP IN.
THIS IS VERY MUCH THE DISCUSSION WE HAD IN OPERATIONS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THAT WAS DISCUSSED IS I, TO ME PERSONALLY, UM, AND I THINK ONE OF OUR OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAID IT, HE SAID, UH, THAT, UM, THIS IS SORT OF A COP OUT ON THE BOARD TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS POLICY, BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS THE RIGHT TO APPROVE IT.
AND AGAIN, GUYS Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY PICKING UP ON A THEME HERE.
I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POLICY, IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, IMPLEMENTED CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE IF WE HAVE POLICY THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, I THINK THAT CREATES SOME SIGNIFICANTLY PROBLEMATIC, UM, SITUATIONS.
SO, BUT AT ANY RATE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RICK HAS, LIKE I SAID, OPERATIONS, WHICH, UH, HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THIS.
UM, OH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THIS, UH, OH, E AND THE AR I GUESS TO THE EXTENT THAT THE BOARD HAS OVERSIGHT OVER ARS ALREADY DECIDED TO BRING TO THE BOARD THIS, THIS MORE DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, I GUESS WE CAN TALK HERE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE POLICY, IT VIOLATES THE POLICY.
UM, BUT WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, CAN I JUST RESPOND TO THAT? SORRY.
SO LET'S SAY WE DELETE, LET'S SAY, AND IT'S NOT OURS TO DELETE IT'S IN THE AR, BUT LET'S SAY WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT'S DELETED COMPLETELY.
YOU'RE STILL NOT GOING TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S, UH, UM, IT'S FORCED THE SAME WAY BECAUSE THE PRINCIPALS HAVE THE LATITUDE OF TRYING TO HIRE WHO THEY WANT, BUT DON'T, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A REASON.
IT DOESN'T SAY NO, BUT I MEAN IT, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE.
I'M NOT CAN A PRINCIPAL DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T LIKE A PERSON AND THEN JUST SEND THEM TO ANOTHER SCHOOL WITHOUT REGARD FOR THE, THAT PERSON'S POSITION IN THE SCHOOL.
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UM, YEAH.I DON'T THINK THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT THERE ARE WAYS IF THAT HAPPENS, I'D RATHER NOT KNOW.
WOULD YOU POSE YOUR INQUIRY AGAIN TO MS. WALTON? I AM AT THIS POINT, NOT EVEN SURE WHAT MY QUERY IS, MY GROUP IN TERMS OF A POLICY DISCUSSION, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
SO, SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT OR WRONG, YOU ABSOLUTELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICIES ALIGN THAT THE AR IS ALIGNED WITH OUR POLICIES.
AND YOUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE IS VERBIAGE IN THE AIR THAT IS NOT REPRESENTED IN A POLICY THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE POLICY YET.
RIGHT? BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU ALREADY ASKED ME TO DISCUSS AN OPERATIONS.
WE KNOW THAT UNDER, UM, HRS SIX TO NEPOTISM, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE WITH THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE THE STATE HAS NOW CHANGED.
THE DEFINITION OF THAT, WENDY IS RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND THAT ALSO JUST SOME VERBIAGE THAT SAYS UNDER THE SAME IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR WITHOUT FIRE APPROVAL, BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYWAY, PER STATE STATUTE.
UM, SO YOU'RE WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT KIND OF VERBIAGE ALSO BE REPRESENTED IN OUR POLICY? NO, I, I FIND THIS AS THIS DISCUSSIONS IN POLICY, BUT SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS THAT IF WE'RE CREATING A PROCESS THAT WHEN A BOARD MEMBER IDENTIFIES THAT AN AR MAY BE IN CONFLICT AND WANTS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, DOES THAT GO TO POLICY IN ADVANCE? BECAUSE ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE THE PAUSE? THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD PROCEDURE AND I'M NOT SURE I WASN'T THE ONE, CAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE WE'VE LOOKED AT AN OPERATIONS AND THEN SOMEONE SAID, WELL, IT SHOULD ALSO GO TO POLICY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH IT IN POLICY.
WELL, I THINK THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY POLICY JUST MAKES THE COMMITTEE JUST MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL BOARD.
AND SO IS THERE, ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC VERBIAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, THAT YOU WOULD SEE LIKE SEE CHANGE OR ADD OR WHATEVER TO THE
THAT'S THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REVISIONS TO STEP ETHICS, WHERE WE DISCUSS THE SENATE, OUR NEXT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE GO OVER THEN.
I MEAN, I TOOK THE BOOK TO THE FULL BOARD, SO, UM, I MEAN WE'LL MISS OUT, RIGHT, MS. CARTLIDGE.
BUT UM, THEY WEREN'T PER THE LAST OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
THEY WORKED ON CHANGING SOME OF THE VERBIAGE AND THE AR SO THE QUESTION NOW IS, IS THAT NOT COMING BACK TO THE OPERATIONS OR IS IT GOING STRAIGHT TO THEY BOARD? WE HAD A MOTION TO SEND IT TO THE FULL BOARD, TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT, TO BRING THE NEPOTISM AR IN LINE.
AND I FORGET EXACTLY HOW WE WORDED IT ROBIN, CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, ME, UM, TO BRING IT IN LINE WITH THE STATE NEPOTISM AND ETHICS STANDARD.
SO GOING BACK TO THE WHOLE BOARD FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES INSTEAD OF THROUGH COMMITTEE, RIGHT.
AND I THINK THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO VOTE IF THEY WANT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO UPDATE THE AR I GUESS, TO THE STATE STANDARD, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE BOARD DECISION TO ADD, SEE IN, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE MOTION WOULD CARRY IT TO THE FULL BOARD AND THE FULL BOARD WOULD, UM, REQUESTS OR NOT REQUEST THE SUPERVISOR TO READ, TO REVIEW THE CURRENT AR TO BRING IT INTO, UM, FOR THE ONLINE, IT WAS THE STATE WITH THE STATE OF THE, I SAID, YES, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND SO AFTER THE BOARD MEETING, THEN WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH MR. SMITH.
SO MS. WALTON JUST SAID, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS JUST GOING TO STAY.
I ATTENDED THAT MEETING AND WHAT IS IT, WHAT IT, WHAT THE MOTION WAS, BUT MRS. WALTON JUST STATED IT VERY ELOQUENTLY.
CAN I ASK SOME QUESTION? I THOUGHT WHENEVER A STATE STATUTE CHANGED OR THERE WAS A THING THAT, UM, WE AUTOMATICALLY WENT TO OUR ARS AND UPDATED IT, THAT
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IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD HAS TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO DO.ISN'T THAT CORRECT? WHEN DID BRING STUFF TO US ALL THE TIME THAT WE, THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN UNAWARE OF THAT THE STATE HAS CHANGED AND SHE BRINGS, YOU KNOW, SAYS WE HAVE TO UPDATE THIS AR SO, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAYBE MISSED THIS ONE OR SOMETHING, BUT SO I TH I THINK IT'S HELPFUL THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT STAFF ETHICS, OUR OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT AR WE SAW THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME REVISIONS TO IT BECAUSE THAT SECTION UNDER TO SEE IT WAS CONFUSING.
SO MY QUESTION JUST IS, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT? AREN'T YOU AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO DO THAT, BUT I'M FINE WITH THE MOTION.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YEAH, THERE THEY ARE WORKING ON IT AND THE MOTION, UM, LET'S PUT IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, TOOK THE VIEW.
IT WAS FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT TO REVIEW IT.
THINK IT'S, IT'S IT'S, AS EVERYONE IS SHAKING HEADS HERE IN THE ROOM, IT SHOULD BE DONE AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT OUT WITHOUT THAT MOTION TO BE MADE.
UM, THERE, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S THE ISSUE OF BEING IN LINE WITH THE STATE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE ABOUT THE SCHOOL BUILDING IS GOES FURTHER THAN THE STATE.
SO IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS PECULIAR TO, TO US.
WE'VE, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT IN LINE WITH THE STATE IT'S THAT IT GOES FURTHER THAN THE STATE.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING TO, MATT, KATHY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED WITH, WITH STATE AND YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
UH, THE MOTION REALLY FOCUSES ON WHETHER WE WANT TO GO BEYOND THE STATE REQUIREMENTS TO TALK ABOUT SPOUSES IN A SCHOOL BUILDING.
WE JUST FRAUGHT FRAUGHT WITH ISSUES.
AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE, WE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A MORALE ISSUE FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN THE BUILDING, THEY AND THE PRINCE.
AND THAT, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS.
I BELIEVE THAT, THAT THE PRINCIPAL IS SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE, IS THERE AN UNDER CURRENT OF PROBLEM WITH THE REST OF THE TEACHERS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
BUT THIS, THIS IS BEYOND THE STATE.
SO JUST SAYING, ALIGNING WITH THE STATE DOESN'T DEAL WITH THE ISSUE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOT TO GO TO THE BOARD, I THINK.
AND THERE WERE JUST, THERE ARE SOME MR.
ONE IS WHEN I ASKED TO HAVE THIS AR REVIEWED, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT I THINK WENDY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
IMMEDIATE FAMILY NOW INCLUDES BROTHER-IN-LAW SISTER-IN-LAW MOTHER-IN-LAW IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT THE CHANGE WAS, RIGHT.
ACTUALLY THE IMMEDIATE SAYS NOW FAMILY MEMBER, FAMILY MEMBER, AND UNCLE FIRST COUSINS, HIS NEPHEW STARTED OFF ON THE CLOCK.
SO, UM, THEY'VE CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF, AND THEY'VE EXPANDED THE DEFINITION OF IMMEDIATE FAMILY, WHICH, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THIS DISCUSSION, BUT THINK ABOUT IT.
IF YOU MARRY SOMEONE WHO HAPPENS TO WORK IN THE SAME, YOU KNOW, IT GETS VERY COMPLICATED.
THERE IS A SPECIAL PROVISION THAT APPARENTLY APPLIES ONLY TO PERSONNEL AT, AT, UH, BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOLS THAT WAS DONE, I BELIEVE BY THE BOARD AND ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS INTERPRET THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
THEY PUT THEIR OWN TWIST ON IT, SO, OKAY.
SO TO MOVE FORWARD, MS. GRAB, RIGHT.
IT'S COMING TO THE FULL BOARD AND, UM, THE DISPOSITION OF THIS, AND THEN THE CHANGES IN THE AR WILL ALL BE DONE THAT INSTEAD IN, IN FRONT OF THE FULL BOARD, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE ASKING THAT, THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY AT THIS TIME? NO.
UM, DOCTOR WAS NASTY, HAD TO LEAVE.
SO, UM, ANY OTHER, I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE AROUND, BUT ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.
WE KNOW WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS TOPIC UP.
UH, IS IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS NEXT BOARD MEETING? UM, COMES OUT OF COMMITTEE.
SO YES, IT WILL BE UNDER OPERATIONS MEETING.
AND LASTLY, UH, THE FINANCIAL ADMINISTRATION.
SO, UM, LET ME JUST TURN TO THOSE.
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BACKGROUND, NO, IT'S NOT ALWAYS ON THIS 8% MONTHS.SO THE POLICY ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ROLL ALL UNUSED 8% BONDS FORWARD TO THE CURRENT BONDING CYCLE AND REDUCE THE CURRENT BOND ISSUANCE ACCORDINGLY FOR AN ACTION TAKEN MAY 21ST, 2019.
I'M ASKING TO BRING THIS BACK UP AGAIN, BECAUSE I NEED TO HAVE THE ULTIMATE CONVERSATION, THE DEFINITIVE CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARTICULAR POLICY IS NOT IN, UM, THAT IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH OUR CURRENT PRACTICES OR THAT OUR PRACTICES DON'T CONFLICT WITH THIS POLICY IS MORE ACCURATE.
UM, MR. STRINGER, I HAVE CALLED ON YOU SEVERAL TIMES TO ASK YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS.
UM, BECAUSE IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WITH THE WAY WE'RE DOING OUR 8% PROJECT LESS.
NOW, WHEN THERE ARE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE, THAT WE MOVE THE NEXT PROJECT UP ON THE LIST IN ORDER TO GO AFTER OUR VERY LONG LIST OF 8% PROJECT NEEDS.
WHEN YOU INTERPRETED THIS LAST TIME, I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T SEE A CONFLICT.
CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE AND ASK YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS PLACE? YES.
MA'AM YOU MAY PUT ME ON THE SPOT AND I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS SEVERAL TIMES THAT I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT THINKING CLEARLY OR SOMETHING.
THIS WAS, UM, THIS WAS A GOOD RULE PRIOR TO OUR CHANGING THE WAY WE DO 8%, WE CHANGED THE WAY WE DO IT.
SO NOW WE HAVE THIS BELOW THE LINE PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHERE ANY UNUSED FUNDS GO.
SO ESSENTIALLY AFTER STARTING LAST YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY UNUSED 8% FUNDS.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS UNUSED 8% FUNDS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ROLLED TO THE NEXT PROJECT UNDER THE LINE, UM, BEFORE THEY DID.
AND SO YOU HAD THIS MONEY SITTING AROUND AND THAT'S WHAT THIS MOTION WAS DIRECTED TOWARD.
THE MONEY WAS JUST SITTING THERE AND PEOPLE WERE MAKING QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS ON HOW TO USE IT.
SO IT'S REALLY POINT AFTER LAST YEAR, THE YEARS PRIOR TO LAST YEAR, STILL HAVE TO ROLL THE MONEY BEFORE, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE BELOW THE LINE PROJECTS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM PRIORITIZED, SO THAT WERE UNUSED FUNDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO SUNSET AS SOON AS, UH, AS SOON AS WE CATCH UP TO TWO, WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO LAST YEAR, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR, BUT I I'M CONFUSING MYSELF A LITTLE BIT, BUT YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT FOR THE MINUTES AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WATCH OR ARE LISTENING TO THIS.
SO DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON, UM, DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS POLICY, BECAUSE I AGREE IT WAS A FABULOUS POLICY IN 2019.
I BELIEVE IT MIGHT'VE EVEN BEEN UNANIMOUS WHEN IT WAS PASSED.
DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION NOW THOUGH, SHOULD THIS POLICY BE REMOVED? SHOULD THIS POLICY JUST HAVE A, UM, A RED LINE DRAWN THROUGH IT? I MEAN, HOW, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST THE DISPOSSESSION OF O E 8 1 6? I'M SORRY, ALWAYS 6 1 6.
I WOULD LEAVE IT THERE IN CASE A FUTURE BOARD NO LONGER, UM, ADDRESSES 8% PROJECTS THE WAY WE ARE GOING AT NOW.
UM, SO I THINK THIS IS JUST A GREAT CATCH, ALL THAT.
IF THERE IS EVER ANY UNUSED FUNDS, THEY SHOULD ROLL FORWARD.
UM, THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT, IF WE STAY WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, THERE WON'T BE ANY UNUSED FUNDS, BUT IF THAT PROCESS SHOULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, THIS WOULD STILL BE GOOD LAW.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU JUST LEAVE IT.
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I CONCUR WITH THAT.I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THERE NEEDS TO AN ASTRICK, YOU KNOW, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH A STATEMENT IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, WELL, LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT, HOW THIS, THIS FORMAT THAT, THAT WAS CHANGED AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
DID, WAS THERE NOT, WAS THERE A MOTION ABOUT THAT, UH, BELOW THE LINE? DIDN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE THAT? WELL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I, I AM NOT GOOD AT JUST RECALLING SPECIFIC MOTIONS.
UM, AND, AND TRULY, I'VE BEEN THE ONE, LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE ON THIS PARTICULAR POLICY ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO I HEAR WHAT MR. STRIVEN JURY IS SAYING, AND THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE, BUT I REALLY LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS CAFE.
JUST SOME, SOME NOTATION THAT THIS POLICY WOULD REMAIN IN EFFECT IF THE CURRENT PRACTICES OF USING THE 8% CHANGES, CHANGES OR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, ON, ON THEIR PROCESS, WE, THERE WAS NOT A BOARD VOTE ON THE PROCESS, A FORMAL, FULL BOARD VOTE ON GOING TO THAT PROCESS.
I DON'T BELIEVE ROBIN, CAN YOU HEAR ROBIN? SHE DOESN'T READ.
UM, BUT I REMEMBER HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AS A FULL BOARD WHEN WE MOVED TO THAT BELOW THE LINE AND DECIDED TO USE THESE LEFTOVER FUNDS UNUSED FUNDS, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS THE CONCERN AT THAT TIME THAT IT WAS IN CONFLICT WITH POLICY.
SO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AS A BOARD AND WE AGREED THAT IT WAS A GOOD USE.
SO IF THERE WAS NO VOTE, UM, I DON'T JUST LIKE, UH, UH, TO ME, IF WE PUT SOMETHING IN EITHER THE POLICY STATEMENT OR IN THE WAY THAT THE STATEMENT ABOUT 8% FUNDS, HOW THEY'RE ASSIGNED, UM, TO REMIND PEOPLE AFTER WE'RE GONE, HOW, HOW, WHAT THIS W WHAT THIS MEANT.
AND TOO, BECAUSE BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE TO READ THIS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IF I WAS NOT PART OF THIS BOARD, I WOULD REALLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING IN CONFLICT.
UM, DAVID, WELL, I'VE JUST LOWERED MY HAND CAUSE I, I, I CAN SEE WHERE CLARIFICATION WOULD HELP.
UM, BUT BEFORE THAT, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK WE'RE OVERTHINKING THIS.
UM, NO, THAT'S, UH, BUT THEN I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT SO MUCH THAT IT, IT SEEMS SO CLEAR TO ME.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ALL CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE DOG WITH A BONE WITH THIS.
I MAY, IF YOU GOT ALL COULD COME UP WITH A CLARIFICATION, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CALL OUR PROCESS.
UM, OUR CURRENT PROCESS, THE BELOW THE LINE STUFF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CALL IT.
MAYBE WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A NAME AND A LOGO.
UM, SO CLARIFICATION PROBABLY WOULD HELP.
UM, I WOULD BE, UH, WILLING WHEN I WORK WITH ROBIN ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
WHY DON'T I WORK WITH ROBIN ON LOOKING AT, UM, GOING BACK, KATHY, I'M SEEING IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF MOTION OR SOMETHING REGARDING THAT, AND COME UP WITH SOME WORDING TO BRING BACK FOR OUR NEXT POLICY MEETING.
I'LL ALSO WORK ON SOME WORDING, CAUSE I HAD A FEW THOUGHTS LEAVING LEE WENT THROUGH MY HEAD, BUT I'VE ALREADY LOST THEM.
SO THINK ABOUT SOME WORDS AND PASS THEM ON.
SO, UM, TO RECAP, UM, I WORK TODAY.
I WILL WORK WITH ROBIN AND MOLLY AND CREATE A DRAFT FOR A GC 2.23 TO C TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS HERE.
AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT DRAFT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, FACILITIES USE, UH, NO CHANGE WITH THAT.
I WILL, HOWEVER, I WILL GET AN ANSWER TO MR. SMITH'S QUESTION ABOUT INSURANCE, UM, JUST IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THAT, UH, THE
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POLICY FOR THE MASCOTS AWESOME LADY WORDS.UH, YEAH, THE AR IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY.
SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT, UM, THE ARS WITH THE MASCOT, RIGHT.
BECAUSE OF THE NEW NAMING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR HOUSE.
SO I'VE GOT THE, I'VE GOT, SO YEAH, STAFF WILL WORK ON THAT.
STAFF IS WORKING ON THE AR FOR NEPOTISM AND, UM, KATHY AND I WILL BOTH, UH, COME BACK WITH SOME, MAYBE CLARIFYING WORDING FOR ONE 6.16.
DOES THAT ENCOMPASS ALL OF IT? ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR, UM, MR. SMITH, YOUR HANDS UP? UH, YEAH, ALSO, UH, THEY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PAYING THERE.
UH, ALSO WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT THE INSURANCE, COULD WE SEE ALSO HOW WE ARE PAYING FOR IT, TO WHAT OUR COUNCIL, HOW DOES THAT WORK AS WELL? IN TERMS OF, WHEN YOU LOOK UP THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE INSURANCE, I MEAN, WHEN YOU ASK HIM ABOUT INSURANCE, ABOUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND, UM, YEAH.
OH, THE ANALYTICAL CLICKABLE FEE STRUCTURE.
SO YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS INSURANCE? UM, YES.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME JUST TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION OR YOU WANT THAT TO BE, UM, BROUGHT TO THE FULL BOARD? THAT'S THE FULL BOARD SHE'S MISSING? NOT JUST ME.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
IT'S NOT JUST IMPORTANT FOR ME AND AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I THINK THAT THESE STRUCTURES UP PUT OUT BY THE CUSTODIAN, BY THE CUSTODIAL RATE.
YEAH, NO, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING MR. SMITH, PERHAPS YOU CAN CLARIFY, YOU'RE ASKING ME TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WHO PAYS FOR THE INSURANCE AND WHO PAYS FOR THAT FEE STRUCTURE.
NOT SO MUCH THAT THERE IS THE FEE STRUCTURE THAT THERE'S THE EXPECTATION THAT THERE'S A FEE STRUCTURE, BUT WHETHER OR NOT A BOARD MEMBERS AND SH REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE INSURANCE AND THAT FEE WOULD BE COVERED BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE? HOW ABOUT A FUTURE MEETING DATE? UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAD ONE OTHER THING, UH, THAT WAS ON OUR AGENDA OR WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, UM, IN OCTOBER, THERE WERE A COUPLE POLICIES BOWIE FOR NOW.
I CAN'T FIND THOSE MINUTES SET.
MS. WALTON WAS NOT THERE TO ADDRESS.
AND WE SAID WE WERE GONNA, UH, MOVE THOSE FORWARD.
AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE NEXT, NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD.
WELL, AS THE OTHER LEFTOVER WAS THE TAX CREDIT WHEN D WILL SET A FINE FOR US, UH, FROM THE SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION, IT'S THEIR RESOLUTION INCLUDED THAT THE TAX CREDIT, THE TUITION TAX CREDIT AND VOUCHER, UM, IT WAS DISCUSSION IF THE EXCEPTIONAL NEEDS TUITION TAX CREDIT PROGRAM WAS WHAT THEIR RESOLUTION 32 INCLUDED.
AND IT DID INCLUDE FOR THE SNAPSHOT.
SO HOW WAS THAT A POLICY THING? JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE, BUT HOW WAS THAT POLICY VERSUS MAYBE A LEGISLATIVE SHE'D GO TO LEGISLATIVE, BUT IT CAME UP, BUT IT CAME UP IN POLICIES THAT HE SHOULD GO TO LEGISLATOR.
AND I SAT THERE FOR ATTENTION TO RACHEL AND THE RESIDENT.
SO
AND THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED.
SO WHAT ABOUT A DATE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT SOONER THAN LATER, SO WE CAN BE, UH, DISPENSE WITH THESE AND GET THEM TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, AND RACHEL'S NOT ABLE TO JOIN US WITH THIS.
SO KATHY HAS ALREADY DATES THAT YOU CANNOT MEET.
UM, I CANNOT MEET, UH, WELL, WOULDN'T NEED THAT THE
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WEEK THAT WE ARE ON VACATION, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS CLOSED AND SO I COULD MEET ON, UM, SO I'M REALLY TIGHT TRICIA BECAUSE I COULD, THE EARLIEST I COULD MEET REALLY IS WEDNESDAY THE 27TH, UH, BECAUSE AFTER THE DATE, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.AGAIN, IT'S REMOVING ACADEMICS ON THAT DAY AS WELL.
UM, I'M OUT OF THE COUNTRY, I'M WORKING THE HERITAGE AND I HAVE FIVE GRANDCHILDREN AT MY HOUSE IN THIS SLOT, SO I'M REALLY TIGHT AND LESS.
KATHY, HOW ABOUT WE JUST DO THIS? HOW ABOUT, UM, I ASKED ROBIN JUST TO SEND AN EMAIL TO RACHEL AND YOU AND ME, WE'LL, WE'LL CONSIDER THIS.
WE'LL DO IT VIA EMAIL BECAUSE, UM, THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMITTEE? NOPE.
MEETING ADJOURNED CAFE, MAYBE MATURED.