Mar 15, 2022 Town of Hilton Head Finance & Administrative Committee

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GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE THE CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE ON TUESDAY MARCH 15TH.

TWENTY TWENTY TWO KRISTA. HAVE WE COMPLIED WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION? YES SIR WE HAVE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ABSOLUTELY.

MR. BROWN HERE. MR. HARKINS HERE. MR. STANFORD HERE.

[4. Approval of the Agenda]

MR. LENNOX HERE. I'LL PRESENT SIR. >> ARE THERE ANY CHANGES FROM

STAFF TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA? >> NO, SIR, NOT AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU.

ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES FROM THE COMMITTEE TO THE PUBLISHED STUDY? THOSE ARE MOVED TO APPROVE. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I

[5. Approval of the Minutes]

MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAD THESE WORKSHOPS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE TOWN, WE SHOULD IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY WERE SORT OF IN THE

FUTURE. >> PEOPLE CAN TELL THAT IN FACT WE DID REACH OUT TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE LOCATION OF EACH OF THE MEETINGS BE THOSE MINUTES. AND WITH THAT SUGGESTION I WOULD MOVE ADOPTION.

>> YES, SIR. I'LL MAKE SURE I GET THOSE UPDATE OUR CLIENTS JUST IN SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE SAME BEFORE WE HAVE APPEARANCES BY CITIZENS. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS OF THE TOWN'S RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ONCE YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

EACH CITIZEN HAS THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. AT THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES YOU ARE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS. CITIZEN ARE ASKED TO MAINTAIN A DECORUM SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE, ABUSIVE OR OBSCENE

[6. Appearance by Citizens]

TODAY? >> YES, SIR. SKIP GLENN SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE TODAY. MR. FLYNN, THANK YOU. MORNING.

SKIP HOAGLAND WINDMILL MILL HARBOR. MR. LENNOX, AGAIN, ONLY WAY TO STOP YOUR CORRUPTION IS TO KEEP EXPOSING FACTS. MR. LENNOX, YOU ORLANDO LAWYERS COLTRANE, GRUBER, BUSH AND DISHONEST BLUFFTON TOWN LAWYER FINGAR HAVE BEEN CAUGHT COMMITTING FRAUD WITH THE DRAFTING OF A FIVE YEAR DEAL CONTRACT TO ALLOW THE ILLEGAL ISSUE AND USE OF MILLIONS OF TAX FUNDS BY BILL MILES AND THE HILTON HEAD BLUFFTON CHAMBER. MR. LENNOX, YOU SCHEME THIS PURPOSELY ELIMINATING ANY ACCOUNTING PROVISION. THE REASON IS BILL MILES TOLD YOU THIS IS HIS SECRET SAUCE.

IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS ARE TAXPAYERS, MR. LENNOX, YOU HARKINS IN MCCANN AGAIN CLAIMED YOU WENT TO THE CHAMBER OFFICES TO SEE THE CHAMBER COUNTING. YOU REPORTED ALL LOOK GOOD.

THIS WAS SIMPLY A LIE AND FRAUD . WE DESPERATELY NEED AN FBI INVESTIGATION AND A DEEP FORENSIC INDEPENDENT AUDIT ON ALL TOWN RECORDS THAT CPA JOHN TROYER, STEVE REILLY AND NOW BLUFFTON ORLANDO, MR. LENNOX HAVE BEEN AND HOW YOU'VE USED IT LEGALLY, ILLEGALLY, CRIMINALLY AND IT'S DISAPPEARED .

>> YOU WERE ALL HIRED AND ELECTED AND TRUSTED TO APPROVE SPEND AND GUARD TAX MONEY LIKE YOUR OWN MONEY. THIS IS NOT FUNNY MONEY IN THE GAME OF MONOPOLY.

MR. LENNOX, YOU AGAIN ONE THING I SAID CAN YOU SAY ONE THING I SAID WRONG ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUE AND USE OF TAX FUNDS BUT TAX THE BILL MILES. CAN YOU SAY ONE THING IF YOU CAN. LET'S HEAR IT. MR. LENNOX, THE RECENT TOWN AUDIT DONE BY GREEN PHINNEY FARM WHO I CALLED SAID THIS WAS NOT AN INDEPENDENT TOWN AUDIT.

IT'S JUST A HIRED AUDIT OF NUMBERS THAT WERE HANDED BY JOHN TROYER ETHICS VIOLATOR VIOLATOR GRUBER AND ORLANDO ALL PROVEN TO BE DISHONEST AND HAVE CAUGHT USING FUNDS TAX FUNDS ILLEGALLY. YOU CALL THIS A POSITIVE EXTERNAL AUDIT REPORT AND IT'S TOTAL FRAUD. THIS AUDIT IS NOTHING BUT IT IS AN INTERNAL HIRED TOWN AUDIT THAT ONLY SHOW THE NUMBERS YOU AND TOWN INSIDERS WANT TO SEE. ONLY A FORENSIC AUDIT WILL IDENTIFY CRIMES COMMITTED BY INSIDERS LIKE YOU, ORLANDO AND TROYER AND GRUBER AGAIN.

EACH OF YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT BREAKING THE LAW. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU?

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MR. LANTOS. THESE ARE VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS AND COULD RESULT IN YOU AND OTHERS ARREST. THIS IS NOT A BEAUTIFUL SWAMP. IT'S A CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION.

MR. LENNOX, DO YOU AGREE TO A FORENSIC AUDIT TODAY RIGHT NOW? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT ONLY REASON IS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. MR. LANTOS, WHAT DO YOU GAIN BY CONTINUALLY LYING AND BEING SO

CROOKED VERSUS BEING HONEST? WHAT DO YOU GAIN BY THAT? >> YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT AND YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE HERE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN AGAIN.

YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE DISGRACED. YOU KNOW WHAT A MAN SHOULD SHOULD ALWAYS LEAVE THINGS BETTER. HE FOUND HIM AND THE ONLY THING YOU. YOU LEAVE THIS EARTH WITH THE GOOD YOU LEFT BEHIND AND YOU'RE LEAVING CORRUPTION BEHIND AND YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

[7a. Review and Consideration of the Affiliated Agency Applications for the Fiscal Year 2023 Budget]

>> I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE'S PERMISSION TO MOVE THE ORDER IN WHICH THAT WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATIONS. I'M GOING TO MOVE THE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE DEEPER INTO THE AGENDA AND WOULD LIKE TO START WITH JOHN O'TOOLE AND THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. NOW JOHN AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANTS. YOU MAY ASSUME THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED YOUR APPLICATION IN SOME DETAIL. TO THAT END, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING OR EMBELLISH ANY PARTS THE APPLICATION PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO. THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS WE POSSIBLY COULD INTERACTING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND TAKING THEIR COMMENTS AND

QUESTIONS. >> OK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU ALL.

AND A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU IN THIS CAPACITY WE'VE BEEN DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THIS CORPORATION FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AND A MENTOR OF MINE USED TO SAY THAT WHICH GETS MEASURED GETS DONE. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE I THINK YOUR HINT WAS TO GET THROUGH QUICKLY SO WE COULD HAVE INTERACTION SO AND I KNOW YOU PRAY I HAVE A LOT ON YOUR AGENDA. THE THIS IS OUR BOARD WE'VE GOT PRETTY GOOD A VERY STRONG BOARD IN PARTICULAR THE INTERACTION WITH EDUCATION AND SKILL WORKFORCE IS THE DRIVER TO MOST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TODAY BUT ARE OUR BOARD IS VERY ACTIVE IN OUR MISSION AND OUR VISION MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY ON MISSION AND THEY ALSO I BELIEVE VERY SUCCESSFULLY FOLLOW UP ON THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE OUR MONEY IS SPENT. WELL, AS I TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY SOUND AT LIKE I'M SAYING CHARLIE STONE AND I DO IT ALL BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORK WITH INCLUDING THE TOWNS THAT WE SERVICE, THE EDUCATORS MOST RECENTLY EVEN THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE INVESTING IN ARE GREAT COMPLIMENTS TO OURS. BUT WE'RE ALWAYS ADDING PARTNERS. I THINK WHAT OUR STRENGTH IS IS NOT NECESSARILY HAVING ALL THE ANSWERS AND ALL THE RESOURCES BUT BRINGING THOSE RESOURCES TO BEAR TO HELP COMPANIES EXPAND IN PARTICULAR WORKFORCE WORKFORCE HOUSING OUR CRITICAL ISSUES AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE COMPANIES NONPROFITS THAT MEET WITH COMPANIES TO SOLVE THE WORKFORCE ISSUES.

SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH GREAT PARTNERS. I OFTEN TIMES WE'VE BEEN HIRED TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT I BELIEVE AS YOU LOOK AT A BALANCE WHEEL AS WE APPROACH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OBVIOUSLY HERE ON HILTON HEAD BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ENVIRONMENT'S IMPORTANT EDUCATION'S IMPORTANT AND WE KEEP THOSE THINGS IN ORDER.

WE WE ARE ABLE TO DO ECONOMIC FILM AND COUNCILMAN LENNOX X ASKED ME A WHILE AGO WHAT SHOCKED ME THE MOST ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE IN FOUR YEARS HERE IN THE COUNTY AND IT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN OPPOSED BY ON A PROJECT BY WILL CALL NOT IN MY BACKYARD FOLKS OR ENVIRONMENTALISTS. SO WE TRY TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS A WORKFORCE HOUSING WORK FORCE SKILLS I TOUCHED ON AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF YOUR

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IT'S REALLY A GANTT CHART THAT SAYS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN EACH OF THESE AREAS IN TERMS OF KEEPING SCORE AND JUST JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT INVESTMENT NUMBER IS GONNA BUMP UP VERY QUICKLY TO 250 MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS HERE.

BUT WE'D LOOK AT CAPITAL INVESTMENT. WE LOOK JOB CREATION.

I'D LIKE TO BUMP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT LAST LINE ON THE EXCEL.

WE LOOK AT WHAT IT DOES TO PEOPLES HOUSEHOLD INCOMES. AND IF YOU'VE SPENT ANY TIME WITH CHARLIE STONE AND MYSELF, OUR PASSION IS REALLY TRANSFORMING LIVES.

OBVIOUSLY COUNTY LEADERS, TOWN LEADERS WANT TO SEE TAX BASE SO THEY CAN PROVIDE IMPORTANT SERVICES AND MILLAGE GROWTH. BUT. AND ARE WE'RE WORKING ON ALL THESE AREAS WHICH WILL TOUCH TODAY IN TERMS OF PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE YELLOW RIGHT NOW. OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS MOVE OUT A RED PRETTY QUICKLY. WE'RE EXPECTING TO MEET OUR TARGET FOR THIS YEAR OF 60 MILLION DOLLARS. SO I SAY ONE THING I WANT TO TOUCH ON.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.

WE WERE RECOGNIZED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR A PROJECT WE DID THAT KIND OF INVOLVED THE GULF FARMERS ON ST. HELENA AND INVESTORS WHO LIVED IN THE ARLINGTON RIVER. IT FOSTERED SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENTS AND WE PUT IT IN FOR RECOGNITION FIGURING THAT IT COULD ENCOURAGE OTHER SOCIAL ENTREPRENEURS, PEOPLE WITH AFFLUENCE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY COULD DO TO HELP PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER REALLY GOTTEN THEIR PIECE OF THE PIE. THIS INVESTMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. THE INVESTMENT BY THE RALF FAMILY ENDED UP BEING 5.1 MILLION. BUT WHAT IT DID IS FOR THE GULF FARMERS CO-OP PRECIPITATED AT THIS POINT ONE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT IN A CO-OP WHERE THEY'RE NOW ABLE TO FORM MORE OF THEIR PROPERTIES. THEY'RE ABLE TO GET RATHER THAN PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR A GREAT REVENUE FROM PEOPLE WHO VALUE A FARM TO TABLE.

AND IT'S JUST WORKED OUT QUITE WELL. IT NOT ONLY WON THE GOLD FOR EQUITY INCLUSION BUT IT WAS THE TOP PROJECT RANKED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR 2021. IT'S A GOOD RECOGNITION OF OF NOT REALLY OUR ORGANIZATION BUT WHAT CAN OCCUR AND PEOPLE WERE IMPRESSED. SO FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY FOUR YEARS INTO IT TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THE TOP PROJECT USUALLY LIKE A FIVE BILLION DOLLAR CHIP PLANT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED. BUT THE SPIRIT OF THIS PROJECT REALLY PIQUED PEOPLE'S INTEREST AROUND THE GLOBE. OUR LEADS AND THIS WILL GET INTO SOME OF OUR MARKETING.

WE HAVE THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT LEADS REPRESENTED THERE RIGHT NOW.

BLUE IS CODED FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S ALREADY IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, GREEN FOR LEADS THAT COME AWAY. WE HIRE LEAD GENERATORS. WE HAVE PEOPLE CALL DIRECTLY 75 PERCENT OF OUR LEADS COME FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S ALREADY IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND TO A GREAT EXTENT SOMEBODY WHO'S ON HILTON HEAD 40 WE'VE DONE 40 PROJECTS AS OF THIS GRAPH.

NINETY EIGHT PERCENT OF OUR LEAD ARE DONE PROJECTS COME FROM SOMEBODY ALREADY IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IN A MEETING I HAD WITH SEAN COLE AND ADMINISTRATOR MARK ORLANDO, WE'RE LOOKING AT A KIND OF A I'LL CALL IT A GUERRILLA MARKETING CAMPAIGN WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE BEHIND THE GATES HERE ON HILTON HEAD SPECIFICALLY FOR HILTON HEAD PROJECT. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. OUR TARGETS AND I THINK THIS IS HOW WE STAY OUT OF TROUBLE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTALIST AND THE NIMBY FOLKS IS BY MAKING SURE WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT CLEAN INDUSTRY AND INDUSTRY THAT IS COMPLEMENTED BY BY THE WORKFORCE THAT WE HAVE OR CAN EXPECT TO DEVELOP THROUGH OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM K THROUGH 12 TCM AND USC BIG WE POUND AWAY AT THIS EXHILARATING ENVIRONMENT SKILLED AND READY WORKFORCE WE USE REALLY THE MARINE CORPS IS OUR SHINIEST LURE WE CAN THROW IN THE WATER TO ATTRACT INDUSTRY AND THEN UNPARALLELED SUPPORT. AND YOU HAD OUR EX INDUSTRIES

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PUTNAM PALMETTO BAY BUSINESS PARK. >> THESE VIDEOS ARE BEING FLUME RIGHT NOW BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGH COVE IT COULDN'T VISIT SITES AND EVEN PRELIMINARILY PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE. SO THROUGH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, WE'RE ACTUALLY PRODUCING SIMILAR VIDEOS TO THESE THAT YOU CAN FIND THROUGH OUR WEB SITE OR ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT FOR THE HILTON HEAD SITES AS WELL. I NOT TO PICK ON BILL HARKINS BUT HE KNOWS WE HAVE GREAT DATA CAPACITY AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND WE CAN DO THAT FOR A VARIETY OF INDUSTRIES. SO A LOT OF DECISIONS ARE NOT YOU KNOW, GRANTED A LOT OF PEOPLE COME HERE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE HERE BUT WHEN THEY HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEIR INVESTORS OR THEIR BOARD BOARDS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE DATA TO SUPPORT THAT AND WE CAN WE CAN DO A VARIETY OF DATA RUNS AND WE DO THAT DAY NIGHT WEEKENDS WHENEVER PEOPLE NEED IT. AND THAT'S PART ARE ARE WHITE GLOVE TREATMENT CONCIERGE LEVEL APPROACH. WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS I PUT MIRROR THERE. WE CONSTANTLY KEEP DATA ON THE ON THE SIZE OF THE INQUIRIES WE GET IN THE COUNTY MIRRORS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. IT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL OR A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION BUT THE BUILDING CAME ON THE MARKET THE LAST DAY OF ITS IN BEAUFORT ON 20 ELEANOR FINE BUT IT CAME ON THE MARKET THE LAST DAY OF JANUARY LAST YEAR AND BY FEBRUARY 8TH IT WAS UNDER CONTRACT AND BY FEBRUARY 17TH CHARLIE STONE HAD INCENTIVE IN AGREEMENT BEFORE THE COMPANY SO THAT'S 48 FORTY NINE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY SQUARE FEET. SO IF WE I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A MOVIE BUT IF WE BUILD IT THEY WILL COME IF WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE CLEAR ANSWERS AND HAVE LOCATIONS THEY'LL CHOOSE YOUR COMMUNITY. I'M SURE OF IT IN TERMS OF AND THIS IS WHERE I ALWAYS LIKE TO I WAS ONCE MAYOR OF A SMALL TOWN UP IN CONNECTICUT AND THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE UTILITY I ALWAYS LIKE TO LOOK AT RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU NOW. SO OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS INVESTED IN OUR CORPORATION JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF INCENTIVES DIRECTLY TO EITHER KEEP AND SEE COMPANIES EXPAND IN OUR COUNTY OR X INDUSTRIES MOST RECENTLY 25000 L3 HARRIS WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERING MOVING TO PITTSBURGH OR LEONARDO THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO GIVE THEM A JOB GRANT. SO AGAIN WITH JUST SEE IF I CAN DO THIS YOU PUT NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN UNDER AND 25 TO HILTON HEAD COMPANIES AND EACH OF THESE TWO PROJECTS AMOUNT TO LET'S JUST SEE L3 HARRIS INVESTED THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AT THE TIME THEY DECIDED TO STAY HERE FIVE YEARS AGO ARE FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEN OUR EX INDUSTRIES IN THE TWO INVESTMENTS THAT THEY MADE THERE OVER 10 MILLION DOLLARS. SO IN TERMS OF AND I STILL WANT YOU TO THINK OF THE 90000 YOU PUT INTO IT THIS IS WHAT WE CAN LOOK TO AND WE'LL START RIGHT AT THE TOP.

TWENTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS INVESTED. NINETY TWO JOBS THE JOBS THAT WE HAVE BOOKED TODAY ARE AVERAGING 54000 DOLLARS INCENTIVES THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND PHILO AGREEMENTS THROUGH THE COUNTY OVER ONE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS SITE DEVELOPMENT FUNDS AND WORKING WITH SEAN AND JOSH

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HE CAN'T ALWAYS FOCUS ON THE COMPANIES YOU WANT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONES YOU HAVE. AND IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THE ONES YOU HAVE, THEY BECOME THAT THIRD PARTY AFFIRMATION WHEN WE BRING A PROSPECT THAT CAN VOUCH FOR WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT ON HILTON HEAD PIPELINE AND I AM I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THIS. WE HAVE 25 MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON HILTON HEAD.

I WOULD PROJECT IN THE NEXT 45 DAYS CREATING ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE JOBS AND FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ANNUAL COMPENSATION. THE ONE THAT I ACTUALLY I SPOKE WITH GREAT CONFIDENCE. THERE IS ONE PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IN THE Q A LONG TIME OUT AT THE AIRPORT AND THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR A DETERMINATION A LETTER FROM THE ARMY CORPS.

SO I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE WHEN THE ARMY CORPS IS GOING ISSUE THAT LETTER.

BUT I KNOW THE COMPANIES ALREADY ACQUIRE PROPERTY TO MAKE ABOUT AN EIGHT OR NINE MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT ON HILTON HEAD. SO IT'S MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE JUST AT THE WHIMS OF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. WE DO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR WORK ACROSS THE COUNTY AND AGAIN JUST IN TERMS OF A MORE MEASUREMENTS WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW, YOU THROW AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT INTO THE COMMUNITY OR LIKE A STONE INTO THE WATER IT HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT. SO OUR WORK TO DATE THREE POINT THREE BILLION DOLLARS IN A RIPPLE EFFECT MULTIPLIER EFFECT THROUGH THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

EIGHTEEN HUNDRED JOBS AND SIXTEEN POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN TAX REVENUE TO GOVERNMENT ENTITIES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING AND TRYING TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE. WE ARE LOOKING AT PRO FORMA AS WE WORK FELOS FEE IN LIEU OF TAX AGREEMENTS AND SPECIAL SAUCE REVENUE CREDITS AND WE'LL DO THAT ON ON THE PROJECTS I MENTIONED AS WELL AS YOU LOOK AT HOUSING. THERE ARE AN EVEN AS YOU STAND UP THE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OR THE STONING STONING I TO SEE STONY BROOK.

BUT WHAT AM I GETTING WRONG, ALEC? JUST STONING AS WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO FIND BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND DO ANY RESEARCH THAT MIGHT

BE SUPPORTIVE OF THINGS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MIGHT BE IN OKAY. >> AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

I HOPE IT WAS INFORMATIVE. I HOPE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED AND YOU JUST LOOK AT THE PROJECTS IN THE QUEUE, YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF YOUR OWN PUBLIC POLICY AND PEOPLE WHO LOOK AT IT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WILL SAY IT'S A PRETTY GOOD INVESTMENT. GOOD PRESENTATION, JOHN. THANK YOU COMMITTEE.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF JOHN AND THE EDC? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, JOHN. OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE REPORT THAT YOU'RE GIVING.

>> YOU HAVE REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS COUNTY. AND YOU MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR US HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AS WELL AND THAT IS APPRECIATED.

YOUR LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM IS EXTRAORDINARILY. AND THAT IS WHAT IS ACHIEVE THE RESULTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED. I NOTICED IN YOUR APPLICATION YOUR TOTAL BUDGET AT ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN IN WHAT ARE THE BIG PIECES OF THAT AND

THE SOURCES OF THAT THE LARGEST PIECES THE COUNTY GIVES. >> THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR OPERATIONS AND THEN THEY ALSO SET ASIDE A HALF OF 1 MIL.

GENERALLY IT'S IN THE VICINITY OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT.

DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE COULD EXPECT TO DO AND WORK WITH SEAN ON MODERN CLASSIC MOTORS PALMETTO BAY BUSINESS PARK AND THAT'S AND THEN CHARLIE'S AND THE ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING GRANTS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AS OUR BOARD IS LOOKING AT PRIVATE FUNDRAISING BUT WE HAVEN'T PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THAT YET. EACH YEAR WE PRAY RAISE ANYWHERE FROM TEN TO 20 THOUSAND DOLLARS OF ADVERTISE AROUND OUR CONVERGED SUMMIT DO THE COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES AS YOU BRING IN EVER MAKE A CONTRIBUTION DIRECTLY BACK TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

CORPORATION? >> DO YOU EVER ASK FOR THAT? WE DON'T ASK FOR THAT.

>> WHERE MOVING TOWARDS THAT MODEL THOUGH YOU KNOW THE COUNTY EXPECTS US TO DIVERSIFY

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SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A MODEL THAT DELIVERS RESULTS, DOESN'T COST TOO MUCH AND COULD RAISE THOSE KIND OF FUNDS. YOU MENTIONED WORKFORCE HOUSING AS A RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS A BIG TIME ISSUE TO US HERE.

AND I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE HAD A CONSULTANT HERE WHO GAVE US RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE FOLLOWED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH SUCCESS.

DO YOU HAVE INPUT FOR US ABOUT TOOLS THAT WE MIGHT TRY TO USE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN USING TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE THAT WORKFORCE THAT THAT WORKFORCE ELEMENT? YEAH. IN FACT, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP NOW USING SOME OF THE TOWN ON LAND AS AN INCENTIVE BUT NOT SELLING IT LEASING IT ON A FAVORABLE BASIS SO THAT IT WORKS. BUT I'M INTERESTED IF YOU'RE AWARE OF ANY OTHER TOOLS THAT YOU MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT WE USE TO SOLVE THAT ISSUE.

>> YES. >> AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON ON TRYING TO WHAT? WELL, WE TRIED TO DO FROM OUR ANGLE IS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IT FROM PUBLIC POLICY, LOOK AT IT FROM THE THE LENS OF AN INVESTOR. AND SO WE WENT TO THE MARKET AND ASKED FOR A PRO FORMA THAT WOULD ILLUSTRATE WHAT THEIR HURDLE RATE WAS, WHAT THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE COST TO CAPITAL IS FOR A INVESTOR TO BE INTERESTED IN DOING IT ON HILTON HEAD. AND SO I WAS VERY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO AT THE SESSION YOU HAD I THINK LAST MONTH OR EARLIER THIS MONTH WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO OUT FOR QUALIFICATIONS . I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A MODEL OUT THERE THAT WE IDENTIFY AND IT'S JUST ONE MODEL. BUT IF YOU GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE ,THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT. YOU YOU TRY TO GET LOWER LOWER INTEREST BONDS SO YOU CAN WORK THROUGH SOME NON-PROFITS AND I BELIEVE SOME NONPROFITS HAVE STEPPED UP TO SAY THEY COULD ISSUE THOSE TYPES OF BONDS. AND FOR THE NONPROFIT THERE WOULD BE FEES PAID BACK TO THEM FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THEN USING FELOS. I DO THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY THE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY SITE WHICH HAS A LOT OF DENSITY THERE BUT I DON'T THINK IT ACHIEVED WORKFORCE HOUSING THERE. I JUST DROVE BY THE BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT OFF OUR ROAD AND IT'S COMING OUT BEAUTIFUL. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

ANOTHER TOOL WE'RE LOOKING AND I'VE SHARED IT SO FAR WITH ADMINISTRATOR GREENWAY.

I'VE SHARED IT WITH STU RODMAN ,COUNCIL MEMBER FROM HILTON HEAD AND ALSO ALICE HOWARD ABOUT HOW TO STRUCTURE FELOS THAT COULD ALSO AUGMENT OR COMPLEMENT THE LOW INTEREST BONDS THAT COULD BE ISSUED. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR MODEL IS IS THAT WE COULD AND I GOT A LITTLE LOST TRYING TO FIND THAT PARTICULAR SLIDE AND OBVIOUSLY GO IN THE WRONG DIRECTION BUT WE COULD ACHIEVE SOME PRETTY NEAT AND AND WE CAN DICTATE.

HILTON HEAD CAN DICTATE THE BLEND OF WORKFORCE HOUSING BUILT INTO SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SHOWING UP ON THIS SLIDE BUT THIS IS AN INVESTOR THAT IF THEY WERE CHOSEN BY THEIR QUALIFICATIONS WOULD STEP UP AND A PROJECTED BUILD ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY UNITS ON HILTON HEAD. SO I DO THINK THERE'S INTEREST OUT THERE TO DO IT.

I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY AND AND BALANCE THAT WITH THE INTEREST OF OVERALL RESIDENTS ON THE ISLAND. BUT WHEN I GO TO MEET SOMEBODY AT STARBUCKS AND WE GO TO PULL THE DOOR AND AND IT DOESN'T OPEN AND THEN THE SIGN SAYS DRIVE THRU ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP WORKFORCE SHORTAGE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE PEOPLE PROMOTING TOURISM. IT'S IT'S IT'S A CRITICAL ISSUE.

AND I WAS REALLY EXCITED WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL IS TAKING AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE BEST PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR NETWORK TO HELP INFORM THAT PROCESS.

SORRY, IT'S A LONG ANSWER. ALL RIGHT. VERY USEFUL TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN SOLVING THAT PROBLEM.

I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR RESULTS. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU. AND THEN ON THIS SIDE THERE. THIS IS JUST A..

A PHILO ILLUSTRATION. WE DID SO TO CLOSE THAT GAP. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE

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YOU'VE ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS REALLY PIQUED MY INTEREST WITH THE AFFILIATE AGENCIES UCB CLEMSON AS FAR AS HELPING TO PROVIDE THE DATA. OKAY.

I THINK THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS A BIG PIECE FOR US AS A AS A COUNCIL TO REALLY GET OUR ARMS WRAPPED AROUND. IT'S NOT ALWAYS ONE DOLLAR IN TWO OR THREE DOLLARS OUT.

OKAY. THERE'S SOME OTHER WAYS TO MEASURE THAT.

SO CONNECTING WITH YOU TO TO ASSIST WITH US LONG TERM IS GOING TO BE DEFINITELY IMPORTANT. CAN YOU SHARE THIS PRESENTATION WITH US? THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE UP NOW I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT.

SO IF YOU COULD SHARE THIS WITH US. YEAH.

>> YOUR STATE, YOUR STAFF HAS. AND WE'VE BEEN SHARING ALL THIS WITH JAMIE AND SEAN.

SO OKAY. >> YEAH, I'M ONLY MODELING QUESTION, DON.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD NEWS HERE . I TRY TO BE A REALIST SOMETIMES LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES YOU OR DETERS SO TO SPEAK ON HILTON HEAD THAT WOULD NOT MAKE US A GREAT CHOICE FOR SOMEONE TO MOVE HERE AND IT'S AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION I WAS ASKED THAT IN ADVANCE AND YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO SITES RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE PALMETTO BAY BUSINESS PARK WHICH YOU WERE CLOSE TO GETTING

A DEAL ON. >> AND I WOULD SUGGEST BASED ON WHERE YOU WERE WITH THAT DEAL THAT WE TAKE THAT AS A LAUNCH PAD POINT AND CONTINUE AND WE'RE DOING THAT AND OTHER COMMUNITIES NOT ALL DEALS WORK OUT. BUT IF YOU TAKE THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM WATCH WHAT HAPPENED THERE THE PRICE POINTS SAC COUNCIL WAS SUCCESSFUL OR WAS COMFORTABLE WITH AND WE BUILD ON THAT. AND SO I'VE MET WITH MARK ORLANDO AND SEAN COLE ABOUT PRESS AND REALLY HARD ON ON DOING.

SEAN HAS A LOT OF THE DUE DILIGENCE. THE TOWN HAS A LOT OF THE DUE DILIGENCE ALREADY. BUT IF WE CAN SETTLE ON PRICE POINTS ON THESE PROPERTIES AND IF WE CAN SET THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY AND I I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE BROAD WHEN YOU DO THAT. BUT I'M MAKING A TRIP UP TO BOSTON TO MEET WITH PROSPECTS BACK OFFICE OPERATIONS HEADQUARTERS NEXT WEEK. IF I HAVE PARAMETERS AND KNOW WHAT I CAN SELL, I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS SOMETIMES WE'RE THINKING WE'LL BRING IN THE PROSPECT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK IT THROUGH THE PRICE POINTS.

THE LEGAL ISSUES, THE WETLANDS IF WE CAN DO AS MUCH OF THAT AHEAD OF TIME BASED ON WHAT WE JUST COMPETE WITH IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NOT TO MENTION GEORGIA AND NORTH CAROLINA VERY SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STATES. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD STAFF STAFF AND OUR ORGANIZATION TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

SO WE'VE GOT WE RIGHT NOW CHARLIE AND OUR MARKETING FOLKS ARE FINE DRONES.

THEY'VE FLOWN THE DRONES AND WE'RE GETTING PROMOTIONAL PIECES WE'LL GET FLYERS PUT TOGETHER. BUT I THINK AND MARK WANTS US TO HAVE A MARKETING PLAN BY THE LAST DAY OF MAY AND WE WILL. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNSEL AND AND GET CLEAR MARCHING ORDERS IN TERMS OF PRICE AND USE IN ORDER TO PULL THAT OFF AND OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT MARKETING BEHIND THE GATES HERE ON HILTON HEAD THROUGH MAILERS AND ALSO DIGITAL MARKETING. BUT THE KEY IS FOR US TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN SELL. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S VAGUE AND I'M CONFIDENT BY THE LAST DAY OF MAY WITH YOUR COOPERATION WITH THE FULL COUNSEL'S COOPERATION YOU'LL GIVE ME SOME

PARAMETERS THAT I CAN SELL AND WE'RE CONFIDENT. >> I WOULD SAY ASPIRATIONAL ONLY IF I WAS SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR. I THINK HILTON HEAD, YOU KNOW, THERE THE DIFFERENT SITES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PLUG IN MANUFACTURING AND CLEAN INDUSTRY. BUT I WOULD SAY ASPIRATIONAL LEE HILTON HEAD SHOULD EXPECT TO HAVE TWO ICONIC HEADQUARTERS ON THE ISLAND IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND IF WE HAVE THE PARAMETERS, WE CAN GET THAT DONE. YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN TO BERMUDA AND THEY HAVE THE BACARDI RUM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE A REGIONAL OFFICE FOR GOLDMAN SACHS. I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN SELL AND THEN REALLY SHOOT FOR THE STARS IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES COMING HERE LIKE YOU KNOW, GIVING JOHN A GREAT

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PRESENTATION OF YOU. >> YOU'RE REALLY DOING GREAT THINGS FOR THIS THIS COUNTY.

MY COMMENT IS GOING GONNA BE BITTERSWEET. THE IF YOU TAKE THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF HILTON HEAD, IT'S IT'S FUELED PRIMARILY BY TOURISM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE MAKING SEVENTEEN DOLLARS AN HOUR THAT'S THAT'S 35000 IN A YEAR AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN YOU'RE BRINGING AN OPPORTUNITY WITH AVERAGE SALARIES YOU KNOW, 20 20 K ABOVE THAT WHICH IS GOOD. BUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CONTINUE TO GROW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY WHILE AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE ATTRACTING INDUSTRY THIS PAYING A LOT MORE? I THINK YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO

DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. >> BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BALANCING ACT THERE.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT. >> YEAH.

YEAH. A REAL AHA MOMENT FOR ME. I WAS AT A CHAMBER COMMERCE MEETING AND THE GENTLEMAN NEXT TO ME RAN RAN THE MARRIOTT OR THE SINISTER BLINKING ON ON I CAN VISUALIZE HIM AND I WAS TELLING HIM ABOUT THIS KIND OF SLIDE AND I THOUGHT THIS MAY CREATE SOME STRESS BETWEEN HOSPITALITY AND TOURISM STILL. MY DESIRE IS TO IMPROVE PEOPLE'S LIVES THROUGH WELL-PAYING JOBS. I SAID I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE STRESS AND I'VE BEEN HERE AT THE TIME I SAID IT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND I HAVEN'T FELT THAT STRESS. HE SAID WE THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO HELP OUR INDUSTRY NOT HURT IT. AND SO THAT WAS INTERESTING. AND HE AND THEN THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE VISA PROGRAMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, FOR ME ON A PERSONAL LEVEL AND AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPER I'M NOT LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO WORK TWO OR THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

AND IN A THAT SITUATION I DON'T THINK HOSPITALITY AND TOURISM HAS FELT THREATENED BY US AT ALL. THEY THINK IT ACTUALLY MIGHT BRING MORE VISITORS TO THE AREA MORE MORE CUSTOMERS TO THE AREA. SO IT'S INTERESTING.

WE ALSO DID A SURVEY IN ADVANCE OF CONVERGE AND PEOPLE WERE A THIRD, A THIRD AND A THIRD POSITIVE NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE IN TERMS OF WORKFORCE RIGHT NOW.

AND SIX MONTHS OUT THE POSITIVE WENT TO TWO THIRDS. AND WHAT I'M THINKING IS IS BECAUSE WHAT WOULD CHANGE SUPPLY CHAINS A PROBLEM WORKFORCE IS STILL A PROBLEM.

I THINK IT'S SOME OF THESE INDUSTRIES ARE FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THINGS WITH THE STAFFING LEVELS THEY HAVE IS THE ONLY WAY I I COULD CONCLUDE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO FROM WHERE THEY ARE TODAY WITH WORKFORCE TO BE IN ALMOST DOUBLY POSITIVE IN SIX MONTHS.

SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A STRESS THERE THOUGH AND HOPEFULLY THE WORKFORCE STUFF THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE COUNTIES DOING IN THE REGION IS DOING HELPS.

>> BUT IF IF IF YOU WENT TO CHRISTIAN ACADEMY GUESTS AND YOU AT LEAST A STUDIO THERE AT SIXTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS, THE SALARIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE STILL NOT WORKABLE.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN. ONE OF THE ROLES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS YOU KNOW IS TO CREATE OR CAUSE TO BE CREATED A SOCIAL, POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT THAT STIMULATES THE RIGHT KIND OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT. AND I EMPHASIZE THE RIGHT KIND IF YOU LOOK OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS THAT THAT'S HAPPENED STARTING WITH SHELTER COVE , THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ISLAND REC CENTER AND MOST RECENTLY POPE AVENUE IN THAT TOUGH DISTRICT WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF USC THE CAMPUS AND CELEBRATION PARK.

YOU LOOK AROUND THOSE AREAS AND YOU SEE THE RIGHT KIND OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE EDC AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CAN WORK IN TANDEM VERY EFFECTIVELY.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK THAT THAT YOU'RE DOING IN YOUR APPLICATION.

JOHN, YOU HAD A BUDGET. I ASSUME THAT'S THE 20 TO 22 BUDGET.

CORRECT. AND WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT THAT LEVEL.

OK. >> AND YOU WILL BE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A TWENTY THREE BUDGET. CORRECT. AND THE PROFIT LOSS STATEMENT YOU HAD ON A CASH BASIS WAS EIGHT MONTHS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30.

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GOOD JOB, JOHN AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THIS. THIS COMMITTEE MEETING THIS IS ONE OF THREE AGENDA ITEMS AND WE WILL TAKE THE PRESENTATIONS FROM EACH OF THE APPLICANTS.

AND AGAIN ON THE BASIS US ASSUMING THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED IN DETAIL YOUR APPLICATION IT'S I THINK MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS A COMMITTEE TO COMMENT AND QUESTION THE APPLICANT IS NECESSARILY THAT WE HAVE A FULL BLOWN PRESENTATION AGAIN AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SEVEN APPLICANTS.

>> WE WILL COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE THIS MORNING AND DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING BASED UPON THE APPLICATION AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT WE WILL MOVE TO THE SECOND AND THIRD AGENDA ITEMS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG SUCH THAT WE CAN COMPLETE IT IN ONE

MEETING DUFFY. >> YOU AND JEFF ARE ON FOR THE 14TH CIRCUIT'S SOLICITORS OFFICE WITH THAT PREVIOUS INSTRUCTION. I'LL BE BRIEF.

THIS IS JEFF KING. JEFF HAS VISE CHIEF JEFF CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR AND PERSON IN THE OFFICE AND I ASKED HIM TO DO THE PRESIDENT TO ACTUALLY CREATE THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE AND HE'S CREATED NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT, MISS CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND JUST JUST FOR THOSE WE DON'T KNOW I'M DUFFY STONE ON THIS LUSTER FOR THE 14TH CIRCUIT THE PROGRAMS THAT HILTON HEAD SUPPORTS AND I'M GONNA GO SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE PROGRAMS AND GIVE YOU SORT OF A 50000 FOOT LOOK AT

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THESE PROGRAMS. >> THEY REALLY DEAL WITH WHAT WE DEAL WITH AS A PROSECUTION UNIT AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, TOO OFTEN WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC CRIME MATERIALS .

WE DON'T ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE CRIMES. WE DEAL WITH THE PEOPLE THAT OFFENDED THAT THAT CAUSED THE CRIMES IN DEALING WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

>> YOU CAN PUT THEM IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES AND THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM.

BUT WHAT YOU SUPPORT US ON ARE TWO CATEGORIES THOSE PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOR AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE IT. AND I WANT TO TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THOSE TWO CONCEPTS BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY YOU'LL FIND THE SAME THING THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING YOUR BIGGEST NUMBER ARE MADE UP AND IN THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT YOU DEAL WITH AND PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLEX ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE AND THEN VERSUS THOSE WHO EMBRACE THE STRUGGLING WHO ARE AMONG MULTIDISCIPLINARY CORE COMES IN. THE CONCEPT BEHIND A MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURT IS WHAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD OF IS DRUG COURT, VETERANS COURT, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COURT, VARIOUS COURTS THAT ARE TREATMENT COURTS THAT HOLD THE OFFENDER ACCOUNTABLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF JUST HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE, PROVIDE THEM THE ABILITY TO FIX THEMSELVES IF YOU WILL.

IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR JUST TO SAY GO FIX YOURSELF. YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM THE TREATMENT PART OF IT AS WELL. AND OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURT INSTEAD OF HAVING A DRUG COURT ON A VETERANS COURT SEPARATELY WE PUT ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER. SO WHEN WE GET SOMEBODY THAT COMES INTO OUR SYSTEM THAT WE SEE AS SOMEBODY THAT WE THINK IS STRUGGLING WITH THE ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOR BECAUSE OF AN UNDERLYING ISSUE, WHAT WE FIRST TRY TO DO IS FIGURE THE UNDERLYING ISSUE IS LET'S DON'T JUST ASSUME THAT THEY'VE GOT A DRUG ISSUE WERE THEY IN THE

MILITARY? >> WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DATABASE WHICH IT TOOK US SEVERAL YEARS TO GET BUT WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THAT SO THAT EVERY DEFENDANT THAT COMES INTO OUR SYSTEM AND NO MATTER WHAT COUNTY, NO MATTER WHAT JURISDICTION WE RESEARCH TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE SERVED THEIR COUNTRY AND THEY ARE A VETERAN AND IF THEY IF THEY ARE, THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS THERE AN UNDERLYING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE THERE THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED AN ALCOHOL ISSUE OR VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THOSE PEOPLE WHO WE SENT OFF TO A FOREIGN LAND THAT CAME BACK WITH ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE WHEN THEY LEFT. THE ABILITY TO FIX THEMSELVES WITH OUR WITH OUR SUPPORT THAT'S THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURT AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WHAT YOU YOU FIND THE OTHER END OF THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS WE ALL DEAL AND THIS IS THIS MAKES UP A MUCH SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF OUR PEOPLE THAT WE DEAL WITH.

>> BUT THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT EMBRACE ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOR AND QUITE FRANKLY STATISTICS GOING BACK TO THE NINETEEN HUNDREDS LOOKING AT WHAT DRIVES THINGS WHAT WHAT ACTORS DRIVE ACTION YOU WILL FIND IN 81 A ROLE YOU'LL FIND THAT 20 PERCENT OF THE ACTORS ARE DRIVING 80 PERCENT OF THE OF THE ACTION. IT BECAME A BUSINESS MODEL IN

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WE STARTED THE CAREER CRIMINAL UNIT IN 2010. >> I WILL I HAVE TO SAY I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN ANY PROSECUTORS OFFICE ANYWHERE WE HAVE. WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN JEFF'S GOT THE EXACT NUMBER BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED WE WERE CLOSE TO 400 DEFENDANTS THAT WE HAD THAT WE HAD PROSECUTED UNDER THIS PROGRAM AND A TEAM OF LAWYERS THAT WE HAVE OUR EXPERIENCE, THEY HAVE INVESTIGATORS, THEY HAVE TIME WHICH IS SORT OF THE BIGGEST RESOURCE THAT PROSECUTORS NEED AND THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE PEOPLE .

>> SO THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, THE TWO MAIN AREAS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP US WITH ARE HELPING THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING BUT ALSO DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EMBRACING.

>> SO I WILL I WILL STOP THERE AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS. I HEARD YOU VERY WELL.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE JEFF'S HERE FOR THE NUMBERS. I'M NOT GOING TO I MAY LET JEFF TALK. I MAY NOT. THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOU.

>> BUT. BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ME WHATEVER AND HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THAT. SO MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. >> DUFFY. QUESTION IS FOR NOT FOR YOUR JEFF BILL. THANK YOU. QUESTION IF I MAY FORWARD FOR JEFF IT'S IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE THAT IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH A TROUBLED PERSONALITY AND THEN THROUGH THROUGH INTERVENTION, CORRECTIVE ACTION, A CHANGE OF BEHAVIOR IN A NEW LIFE IN A POSITIVE SENSE THAT'S REALLY GOOD. AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT THIS SHOULD BE ECONOMICALLY EFFICACIOUS. DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS THAT CAN SAY THIS FROM AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT? THIS IS WORTHWHILE AND I'M ASKING NOT TO QUIZ YOU BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE THE ANSWER TO THAT COULD HELP YOU.

I THINK A FUTURE APPLICATIONS ACTUALLY EVEN ASK FOR MORE MONEY.

SURE. IT'S A DIFFICULT IT'S A CERTAINLY LEGITIMATE QUESTION.

IT'S ALSO A DIFFERENT A DIFFICULT ONE TO QUANTIFY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS INVOLVED IN THAT QUESTION . IF YOU TAKE OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY CORE PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW JUST BY DOING A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON WE CAN PUT SOMEBODY THROUGH THAT PROGRAM MUCH LESS EXPENSE THAN WE COULD TO INCARCERATE THEM WHETHER IT'S A DETENTION CENTER OR IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.

BUT WHAT YOU DON'T WHAT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO MEASURE IS THAT RECIDIVISM WE KNOW THAT WE PERFORM WELL IN TERMS OF OUR RECIDIVISM RATE. BUT ONCE YOU'VE GOT THESE FOLKS BACK ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW AND THAT'S THE AIM OF THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY CORE PROGRAM IS IS TO MAKE THEM PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LIKE THE CAREER CRIMINALS WHO ARE AS A SOLICIT OR PUTS A DEVOTED OR COMMITTED TO ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR.

>> SO PULLING THEM WHAT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO MEASURE THEN IS THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT ALTHOUGH WE KNOW THAT IT IS THERE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SINCE 20 19 WE'VE HAD 21 GRADUATES THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY PROGRAM WHO EITHER LIVE WORK OR COMMITTED THEIR CRIME ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. OF THOSE THREE ARE ACTUALLY STILL IN THE PROGRAM BUT THERE ARE THREE AMONG WHO'VE ACTUALLY STARTED THE BIT STARTED BUSINESSES WHILE THEY WERE IN OUR PROGRAM. SO THEY HAVE THEY HAVE STARTED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY DURING THE PERIOD WHEN UNDER MANY CIRCUMSTANCES THEY WOULD BE IN PRISON QUANTIFYING THAT FOR OUR OFFICES IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PRIMARILY A YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A WE'RE NOT A BUSINESS AND IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE WE DON'T TEND TO DEAL ON THE ROAD.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT ONE THING. JUST AS A SUGGESTION YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST AVAIL YOURSELF IF POSSIBLE TO COLUMBUS AND UNIVERSITY.

THEY HAVE A GOOD DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMICS AND I COULD SEE THIS AS A REALLY GOOD CASE STUDY FOR AP HD TYPE STUDENT TO GET SOME NUMBERS AROUND THIS. I THINK WOULD HELP YOUR CASE EVEN MORE. LET ME ADD SOMETHING TO THAT TOO.

I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU FOR MONEY FOR THIS BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADING.

>> I THINK THAT WHAT IS MISSING IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM QUITE FRANKLY IS IS HEAVY RESEARCH. I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT A DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IT'S IT'S ALMOST LIKE A WORKING HOSPITAL. YOU HAVE ALL OF THE COMPONENTS

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>> YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ALL TYPES OF DATA. WHAT IF YOU LOOK AT A TEACHING HOSPITAL, FOR INSTANCE, A MEDICAL UNIVERSITY, THEY'RE GOING TO THE TEACHING HOSPITALS PRODUCING SOME OF THE BEST MEDICAL CARE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE THEY ARE LINKED TO A ACADEMIC RESEARCH INSTITUTE AS WELL AND THEY ARE TEACHING AND THEY'RE LEARNING AND THEY'RE RESEARCHING AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FALLS SHORT.

>> WE WILL START AND WE'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY STARTED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA. NO OFFENSE TO CLEMSON. I WENT TO WOFFORD SO I DON'T CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BUT WE STARTED WITH UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND AND WE'RE

ABLE TO GET A GRANT. >> THEY GOT THE GRANT ACTUALLY THEY ARE GOING TO SEND TO GRADUATE STUDENTS AND A ONE PROFESSOR THAT TEACHES CRIMINOLOGY IN COLUMBIA.

THE OTHER ONE THEY'RE WORKING WITH IS SOMEBODY TEACHING CRIMINOLOGY IN MARYLAND, THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. THEY'RE COMING DOWN AND STARTING A STUDY ON THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PIPELINE BECAUSE THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA DOESN'T HAVE VERY GOOD STATISTICS ON THAT EITHER. AND SO I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT COMBINING WITH ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS WHETHER IT BE CLEMSON, CAROLINA OR IF ONE DAY I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WARFARE DOWN HERE GIVING US THAT INFORMATION AND USING THE DATA THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND START TELLING US THIS IS WHAT THE EFFECT OF YOUR PROGRAM IS.

>> THIS IS WHAT'S WORKING THIS IS WHAT'S NOT WORKING. I THINK WE'LL BE CHALLENGING BUT I THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IN ANY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE CAN DO THAT. AND I IN FACT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THE FIRST STEP TO SO I I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN KOBANI WITH THESE ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS TO TRY TO PRODUCE SOME SOME VALUABLE RESOURCES THAT DO JUST LIKE THE TEACHING HOSPITALS DO WHICH IS YOU KNOW,

THIS IS THIS IS YOUR NEXT STEP. >> THIS IS HOW YOU IMPROVE IT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO TAKE THAT RUN WITH IT BUT I THINK NO MENTIONED HIT ON SOMETHING THAT IS PARTICULARLY I THINK

IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU. AND LET ME SAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, THE APPLICATION FROM THE SOLICITORS OFFICE WAS FOR ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FOR THE CAREER CRIMINAL PROGRAM AND FIFTY THOUSAND FOR THE MDC

. >> YES. OK.

OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

MR. STONE HAS TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS GOING IN .

YOU START YOUR ANSWER WITH. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU FOR MONEY FOR THIS.

>> NOT FOR THAT. I'M ASKING YOU FOR THE OTHER. I KNOW.

I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHY NOT? BUT DON'T ANSWER IT UNTIL I FINISH. YEAH, I WOULD HOPE THAT AS IS A AS THE MUNICIPALITY, AS A COUNTY AND AS A SOLICITOR'S OFFICE WE CAN HONESTLY AGREE THAT THE PROBLEM IS MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT WE HAVE ATTENDING TO . YES SIR.

OK. YOU MENTIONED MENTAL HEALTH GOT A LACK OF FACILITIES.

YES SIR. SO YOU CAN PROGRAM ALL DAY LONG WITHOUT HAVING THE PROPER RESOURCES TO PROPERLY DEAL WITH FOLKS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE ISSUE. YES. THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT AN ORDINANCE FOR HOMELESS ACTIVITY ON THEIR VERY OWN GROUNDS. OK.

WE HAVE HOMELESS ON HILTON HEAD. THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUR ARMS WRAPPED AROUND. SO FROM FROM A SYSTEM STANDPOINT I GUESS I'M ONE DOES TO CHALLENGE THE CONTINUING ASK OF THE SAME AMOUNT YOU AFTER YEAR OK TO ME IF WE NEED TO TO GO DOWN THAT VEIN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, PUT A BUDGET BEHIND IT AND TRY MEASURED OVER TIME BECAUSE WE UNFORTUNATELY TEND TO GET COMFORTABLE WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE.

RIGHT. CONTINUE TO PRESS THE ISSUE. RIGHT.

SO DO I WANT TO OFFER THAT? WELL, THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE.

AND WE WILL WORK ON IT. I WILL SAY FROM AN ACADEMIC STANDPOINT I THINK HERE'S THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT IS WE ARE OPERATING JUST LIKE PROBABLY EVERY CRIMINAL JUSTICE ENTITY. I MEAN EVERY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I HAD A MEETING WITH THE CHIEF JUSTICE. I RAISED MY HEAD. JEFF, MAKE SURE YOU GET ALL THIS STUFF. D I'M WORKING ON A PROGRAM NOW THAT THE CHIEF JUSTICE PUT US ON WEDNESDAY DEALING WITH THE EFFECT OF THE PANDEMIC WHICH IS A NATIONWIDE ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

YOU SAID COURTS THAT WERE SHUT DOWN NOT JUST IN SOUTH CAROLINA BUT THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY AND ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND SO YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER OF CASES PENDING THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UNPRECEDENTED.

AND THE CHIEF JUSTICE HAS BASICALLY SAID I NEED YOU SOLICITOR AND YOUR JUDGE TO SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. AND COURSE THERE'S 16 OF US.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST SEVEN DAYS. BUT I WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS TYPE OF THING YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE RESOURCES ARE THIN.

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YOU COULD JUST GET IT DONE. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO THE WITH THE FEWER RESOURCES THE MORE YOU NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE IT'S AN ORGANIZATIONAL APPROACH WITH THE ACADEMIC END OF IT. WE'VE GOT AN ANGLE WITH THAT THE UNIVERSITY SOUTH CAROLINA ASKED FOR THE GRANT. I DID AND THEY'RE GETTING FEDERAL MONEY TO COME DOWN HERE AND STUDY AND THE ONLY THING I HAD TO DO WAS BE IN CONTACT WITH THAT PROFESSOR AND SAY LET

ME OFFER THE 14TH CIRCUIT AS THE STUDY PLACE. >> IT COULD HAVE THEY COULD

HAVE TAKEN THAT ANYWHERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. >> I JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMITTEE STATE COMMITTEE ON IT AND I SAID COME STUDY HOURS I'LL GIVE YOU ACCESS TO EVERYTHING YOU WANT. SO THAT SORT OF LOOKING AT A RESOURCE THAT'S OUT THERE LESS TAP INTO THAT LET YOU TAP INTO THAT BUT YOU BRING THAT RESEARCH TO ME BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT RESEARCH IS GOING TO HELP ME.

>> BUT. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS.

I'M HOPING THE D.A. LIST IS GONNA HELP US IDENTIFY. I'M ALSO I MET WITH PROBATION PAROLE AND PARDON TWO DAYS AGO YESTERDAY EXCUSE ME WITH JAMES MUNDY.

OKAY. >> MET WITH THE MUNDY AND THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD GETTING PEOPLE INTO OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURTS QUITE FRANKLY IS IT'S TOO HARD IF THEY CAN GET PROBATION OR THEY EVEN HAVE A SHOT AT PROBATION, A LOT OF THEM WILL GO AFTER A PROBATIONARY SENTENCE BECAUSE THAT'S MUCH EASIER THAN WHAT WE PUT THEM THROUGH.

>> WE DON'T PUT THEM IMMEDIATELY INTO PRISON. BUT WHAT WE DO IS YOU HAVE TO COME TO COURT EVERY WEEK. YOU'RE IN FRONT OF A JUDGE EVERY WEEK AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IS NOT THAT COURT DATE. THE COURT DATE. MOST IMPORTANTLY IT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH YOUR ALCOHOL COUNSELOR, ARE YOU MEETING WITH YOUR MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR AND ARE YOU DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? WE NOW HAVE IN-HOUSE WE HAVE JUST NOW ADDED IN-HOUSE DRUG TESTING BECAUSE IT WAS TAKEN TOO LONG TO GET THOSE DRUG TESTS. WE CUT OUR PRICES IN HALF.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE ABLE TO START PRODUCING THOSE TESTS. SO IF SOMEBODY FAILS A DRUG TEST, THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY THIS WEEKEND YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IN THE DETENTION CENTER BUT MONDAY YOU COME IN BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO START THIS PROGRAM OVER AGAIN.

SO THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS THAT WE TRY TO PUT INTO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT

WE'RE HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE. >> BUT QUITE FRANKLY WE WANT THEM TO SUCCEED.

WE DON'T WANT HIM TO FAIL AND WE DON'T WANT HIM KICKED OUT OF THE PROGRAM AND THOSE THAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE PROGRAM, AS JEFF SAID, HAVE GONE ON TO START BUSINESSES HERE AND ARE PROBABLY OUR BEST PROPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM. BUT IT'S SLOW GETTING PEOPLE IN

AND DOING IT. SO ANYWAY. >> GOOD.

GOOD. YEAH. I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING BECAUSE I THINK IT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO YOUR QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO MENTAL HEALTH.

WE RECENTLY FOR A LONG PERIOD TOM DO FOR IS THE ONLY PLACE WITH A MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURT PROGRAM WAS OFFERED BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ARE SOME SEMBLANCE OF THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO CONDUCT THAT PROGRAM AVAILABLE. WE WROTE A GRANT THAT ALLOWED US AGAIN PUTTING FEDERAL DOLLARS INTO CARLTON IN JASPER COUNTY TO EXPAND THAT THERE.

BUT I WROTE THE GRANT AND I WAS CAREFUL TO WRITE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT ALLOWED US TO LEVERAGE THAT GRANT INTO SOMETHING FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AS WELL. MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT IS THERE'S. THERE'S AN ABSOLUTELY DEARTH OF IT RIGHT NOW.

IT PERVADES THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND THERE'S A HIGH COLD CURRENTS BETWEEN DRUG ADDICTION, ALCOHOL DEPENDANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO DO WAS TO GET AN IN-HOUSE COUNSELOR.

NOW SOME OF THE OTHER WE'VE WE'VE TWO COUNSELORS ONE OF THOSE COUNSELORS CAN ONLY DEAL WITH THE JASPER AND CALL PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT THAT'S WHAT THE GRANT WAS FOR. IT WAS FOR COUNTIES WHERE POVERTY IS MORE OF A FACTOR THAN IT IS AND B FOR COUNTY. BUT I WROTE THE GRANT IN A WAY BECAUSE THERE IS A DEARTH OF THOSE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT OUR MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR CAN DEAL WITH EVERYBODY IN THE PROGRAM INCLUDING THOSE IN BEFORE COUNTY.

SO WE ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZE THAT AS A AS A NEED. IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANT TO EXPAND UPON IN THE FUTURE. AND EVEN WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE TRYING TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAMS INTO THESE OTHER UNDERSERVED AREAS, WE ALSO ARE VERY MINDFUL THAT EVEN BEAUFORT COUNTY, WHICH IS FAR MORE AFFLUENT THAN THE OTHER FOUR COUNTIES IN THE CIRCUIT ALSO HAS SERVICE CAPS AND WE TRY TO LOOK OUT LOOK OUT FOR THE FOLKS IN THE COUNTY AND THE PROGRAMS AND WE ALREADY HAVE AS WELL. THAT'S JUST ONE THAT'S COMING

UP NEAR THE REACTION TO THIS. >> SO I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA EFFORT THAT YOUR OFFICES IS PUTTING FORTH. I'LL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THIS FOR CONTEXT.

RIGHT. THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT COME BEFORE YOUR OFFICE AND WE ALL KNOW NEED TO BE EXPANDED TO A DEGREE THEY ALL OF THIS SEEMS SIGNIFICANCE AS OUR WIDTH OF BEACH SAYING WE HAVE. OK.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

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AND SO THERE WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY KEPT COMING BACK. AND SO I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PROGRAM AS YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED IT AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT BASED UPON YOUR REPORTING THAT IN FACT IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I HAVE TO RATHER BROAD BRUSH QUESTIONS ONE THIS MAY BE FOR YOU, JEFF. WHAT ARE THE BIG PIECES OF THE SOURCES OF YOUR BUDGET? WE ARE MAKING A. THE TOWN IS MAKING A VIRTUALLY A NOMINAL CONTRIBUTION WHICH WE'RE PROUD TO DO. BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY SOURCES AND IN PARTICULAR WHAT SORT OF SUPPORT ARE YOU GETTING FROM THE COUNTY AND THE INCREASES AND NEEDS THAT YOU NEED HAVE? IT'S 35, 45, 35.

>> SO IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES FROM THE STATE WE GET THAT ALL I'M SORRY IN THAT PRICE SHOULD LET JEFF ANSWER THIS BECAUSE I THINK IN TERMS OF THE ENTIRE ENTIRE CIRCUIT.

>> SO IN THE COUNTIES IF YOU IF YOU PUT ALL OF THE COUNTIES TOGETHER IT AMOUNTS TO SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO I BELIEVE 40 PERCENT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, 35 PERCENT COMES FROM THE STATE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME GRANT MONEY THAT WE HAVE GONE OUT AS OBVIOUSLY THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURT HAS BROUGHT GRANT MONEY AND WE'VE GONE OUT AND GOT GRANT MONEY FOR BODY CAMERAS STORAGE WHICH IS A NEW THING THAT NONE OF US EVEN

ANTICIPATED 20 YEARS AGO. >> BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN FROM A MUNICIPALITY STANDPOINT AND FROM WE WE KIND OF LIKE THE TERM OF HAVING TO COBBLE TOGETHER LOTS OF LITTLE ONES SOMETIMES. BUT BUT BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT IS GOING TO COME FROM YOUR INDIVIDUAL COUNTIES, THE STATE AVERAGE FOR MY COUNTY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF .

AND WE USE PER CAPITA NUMBERS. THIS COMES FROM MY WORK WITH THIS AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR PROSECUTORS. BUT WE HAD TO STUDY. WE WENT TO THE SENATE SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE SOUTH CAROLINA SENATE AND ASKED FOR FUNDING FOR PROSECUTORS BECAUSE EYES

YOU'VE GOT 46 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. >> THE AVERAGE POVERTY IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 17 PERCENT DEPENDING UPON THE YEAR. BUT 35 COUNTIES ARE HIGHER THAN THAT. SO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR COUNTIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE

EXTREMELY IMPOVERISHED. >> BEAUFORT COUNTY IS ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT I ALSO HAVE ALLENDALE COUNTY WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY THE POOREST POVERTY LINE. THE POVERTY AMOUNT IN ALLENDALE COUNTY GETS CLOSE TO 36 PERCENT . SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THAT, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING. IT'S NOT FAIR, FOR INSTANCE FOR THE DRUG COURT TO OPERATE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT BUT NOT HALLANDALE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.

SO OUR POSITION WITH THE STATE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE COUNTIES HAVE A STRONG RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THE FUNDING AS DOES THE STATE BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH POOR COUNTIES.

BUT WHEN WE PULL THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER, WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IS IT WAS A PER CAPITA NUMBER AND THE PER CAPITA AVERAGE WAS HOW MUCH THE COUNTY COUNCIL'S OF THOSE VARIOUS COUNTIES WERE

FUNDING THE SOLICITORS OFFICES . >> AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE COASTAL COUNTIES WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR NUMBER ONE INCOME SOURCE IS TOURISM THAT ALSO AFFECTS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE HERE WHICH MEANS THAT AFFECTS THE NUMBER OF WITNESSES, VICTIMS AND DEFENDANTS THAT I DEAL WITH.

>> SO YOU'VE GOT BED SPACE IN THE 14 CIRCUIT OF 288 THOUSAND PEOPLE.

WE HAD MORE THAN THAT. THAT'S GOING TO COME TO THE HERITAGE NEXT WEEK.

BRIGHT SEA. WE'VE GOT TO FACTOR THAT NUMBER IN.

>> SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COASTAL COUNTIES AND THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS CHARLESTON COUNTY CONTRIBUTES 15 DOLLARS PER CAPITA TO THEIR SOLICITORS OFFICE.

>> GEORGETOWN CONTRIBUTES RIGHT AT FIFTEEN DOLLARS TO THEIR SOLICITOR'S OFFICE PER CAPITA OR A COUNTY IS THIRTEEN DOLLARS AND SOME CHANGE BE FOR COUNTIES NINE DOLLARS.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WE ARE LITERALLY COBBLING SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET FUNDS FROM THE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND AND EVERYBODY ELSE WE GO FOR GRANT MONIES.

>> WE TALKED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND WE'RE LIKE CAN YOU MOVE YOUR GRANT TO US SO WE CAN GET THOSE RESOURCES? IT IS PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT QUITE FRANKLY TO DEAL WITH THESE THE FINANCES OWNER ON A REGULAR BASIS.

BUT AGAIN, IF WE HAD ALL THE RESOURCES WE NEEDED AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPEND AS MUCH

TIME AS WE ARE ORGANIZING. >> BUT YOU LET US KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO FROM THE TOWN LEVEL TO INFLUENCE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE UP IN OTHER PARTS OF THE GASSER. THANK YOU. A SECOND BROAD BRUSH QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE BIGGEST CRIME ISSUES FOR US HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND?

>> YOU'RE YOU'RE A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF .

>> ONE IS IS THAT REGARD? IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE ARE BUILT A CIRCUITS.

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IT'S INTERESTING THAT I HAVE FIVE COUNTIES. >> NO OTHER SISTER HAS FIVE COUNTIES BUT ALL OF US HAVE AT LEAST TWO. AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE GEOGRAPHIC LINES MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE CRIMINAL POPULATION.

THEY DON'T STAY IN ONE JURISDICTION. THEY DON'T AND THEY THEY MOVE I ALWAYS PUSH BACK ON THAT QUESTION BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A CRIME PROBLEM.

YOU'VE GOT A CRIMINAL PROBLEM. YOU'VE GOT TO BE FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S I THINK THE BIGGEST MISTAKE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS MADE IN THE PAST 30 YEARS WE HAVE FOCUSED ON BEING TOUGH ON OUR PARTICULAR CRIME, ON A PARTICULAR OFFENSE WHEN IN FACT THE PEOPLE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTED ON YOUR CAREER CRIMINAL PROSECUTION LIST, I ASSURE YOU THAT I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR RAP SHEET AND THEY'RE NOT

SPECIALIZING IN ANYTHING. >> THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE CRIME THAT THEY COMMIT AND SAY WELL NO, NO, I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THIS CRIMINAL STATUTE BUT NOT THIS ONE.

THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS. THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE MURDERING PEOPLE WERE SHOOTING PEOPLE OR SELLING DRUGS OR BEATING THEIR GIRLFRIENDS AND ALL OF THAT.

>> YOU CAN SEE ON THE RAP SHEETS OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GO TO THROUGH A MULTIDISCIPLINARY COURT. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE CAREER CRIMINALS AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY DRIVE YOUR CRIME NUMBERS. THEY'RE NOT SPECIALIZED IN ANY PARTICULAR ONE CRIME AND I THINK IT'S A MISTAKE. NOW I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS A CRIMINAL JUSTICE ISSUE BUT THE BIG ISSUE IS YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THE CRIME IF I CAN PUT A GUY IN PRISON FOR TAX EVASION AND HE GOES TO PRISON, THEN I'M GONNA DO THAT. I DON'T I'M NOT GOING TO STOP AND SAY BUT WAIT A MINUTE, HE'S ROB PEOPLE BEFORE TOO OR HE'S DONE THAT.

SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CRIMINAL ASPECT OF IT.

>> I THINK I STAND CORRECTED AND I ACCEPT THE CORRECTION. I APOLOGIZE.

>> I DON'T MEAN IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK YOU MADE A VERY GOOD POINT IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION. SO THANK YOU.

WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU, JOE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. DUFFY, FOR THE RECORD. >> I WANT TO GET A COUPLE THINGS OUT THAT WERE CONTAINED IN YOUR APPLICATION. THE TOTAL SOLICITOR'S BUDGET IS FOUR POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT EIGHT HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND IS THE CCU AND THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND IS THE MDC AND THE GRANT APPLICATION IS 13 PERCENT OF THOSE TWO UNITS AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL BUDGET. IT'S ALMOST MEANINGLESS ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATIONS 60 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL INCOME COMES FROM THE FIVE COUNTIES.

AND JEFF, THE SCHEDULE YOU HAD IN HERE THE BLUE BOX IS PROJECTED.

>> DEDICATED INCOME. LOOKS LIKE THAT'S PRIMARILY BEAUFORT COUNTY.

>> IT IS. AND WHAT THAT IS INTENTIONALLY THE PROGRAMMATIC COSTS CONTAINED WITHIN THE BEEF. CAN WE OFFER IN D.C. NOW IN OTHER COUNTIES AND WE HAVE CAREER CRIMINAL PROSECUTION ACROSS THE CIRCUIT. BUT THOSE NUMBERS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NARROWED DOWN TO BEAUFORT COUNTY PROSECUTIONS AND MDC BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU SUPPORT THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE

SUBSIDIZING OPERATION ELSEWHERE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT. >> AND ONE FINAL QUESTION.

I KNOW YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BACKLOG AND COVE IT HAS NOT HELPED AT ALL.

IS IT UP, DOWN OR SIDEWAYS? IT IS JUST HER IS JUST STARTED TURNING THE CORNER FOR THE LAST

THREE MONTHS. >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN OUR OFFICE A CHART THAT I MEAN ACTUAL MOVING GRAPH THAT SHOWS US HOW MANY CASES ARE COMING IN VERSUS I MEAN IT'S JUST NOW

STARTED LEVELING OFF. >> BUT WHAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH 4 WITH ALL THE OTHER SOLICITORS IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ORGANIZED APPROACH TO IT.

>> YOU'VE GOT SOME YOU HAVE IT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE AND I GO BACK TO THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SHORT ON HIS RESEARCH. SO FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE DAYS I'VE BEEN PULLING NUMBERS IN STATEWIDE AVERAGES AND THINGS LIKE THIS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER APPROACH TO THIS THIS WHOLE DOC EATING ISSUE AS WELL.

AND I KEEP BEING REMINDED OF THE MOVIE MONEYBALL BUT I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.

>> BUT IT'S IT'S JUST NOW LEVELING OFF. BUT IT'S A IT'S A PROBLEM IT'S

GOING TO BE WITH US FOR FOR QUITE A WHILE. >> I IN THAT'S NOT JUST BE FOR COUNTY. THAT'S NOT JUST THE 14 CIRCUIT. IF YOU CAN YOU CAN LITERALLY GOOGLE CRIMINAL CODE BACKLOG AND YOU WILL FIND ARTICLES FROM THE U.K., FROM CALIFORNIA, FROM WASHINGTON STATE. IT'S EVERYWHERE. AND THAT'S JUST GONNA BE SOMETHING WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT THROUGH. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND I CALLED A LITTLE BIT OF CRITICISM ON THIS WHEN I CAME OUT EARLY AND SAID LOOK,

WE'RE NOT GOING TO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FIRE SALE. >> I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK AT A DOCKET AND SAY ART, IT'S OVERWHELMING. AND SO THEREFORE EVERYBODY GETS

PROBATION AND EVERYBODY GOES HOME. >> AND SO I MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE WEREN'T DOING PLEA DEALS AND THAT THAT SEEMED TO CALL A LOT OF PEOPLE

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PANIC. >> YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THIS AND SAY OK, WELL IF WE JUST CLEAR

THE DOCKET IT'LL ALL GO AWAY. >> IT WON'T YOU LET SOMEBODY GO THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE PROSECUTED OR YOU LET SOMEBODY GET A SMALLER SENTENCE BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO MOVE THE CASE.

THEY WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK. YOU HAVE NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

AND SO WE WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE TIME BUT WE MOST IMPORTANTLY NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND NOT JUST NOT JUST CLEAR THE BACKLOG.

ALL THE REASON THE COMMENT THAT ALEX MADE. HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

>> YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

SORRY TO TAKE SO MUCH. EVAN, YOUR COMMENT THAT YOUR COMMENT WAS THAT I MADE A COMMENT AFTER THE BUSINESS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT. YOUR REQUEST IS DENIED HARMING YOUR REQUEST IS DENIED BASED ON WHAT WE USED TO DO THAT WE BOTH HAD THE COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM IS NINETY TWO THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLAR GRANT REQUEST

APPLICATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IN MY APOLOGIES AS I ATTACH THE WRONG DOCUMENT FOR THE TAX EFFECTIVENESS MEASUREMENT AND SO I DO ACTUALLY ONE CORRECT FORMS WITH NUMBERS ON IT FOR YOU WHEN I HAVE A COPY FOR THE IS WHAT SORRY FOR THAT I WOULD TRY AND GO AS QUICKLY AS I CAN TO HELP YOU KEEP ON TIME. SO YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM. LET ME SEE IF THIS FORWARD. YES.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE FOR THIS IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE SERVE OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR.

OUR BUDGET IS ABOUT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION. AND SINCE WE OPENED HONEY HORN IN 2007, WE HAVE SERVED OVER ONE POINT FOUR MILLION PEOPLE. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS WITH

THE TOWN'S SUPPORT IN MANY WAYS. >> AND ONE OF THOSE HAS BEEN OUR MUSEUM MANAGEMENT FEE. SO WE ARE 20 23 AFFILIATED AGENCY REQUEST IS NINETY TWO

THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE. >> OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS WE HAVE RECEIVED A SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND MUSEUM MANAGEMENT FEE AND THAT HAS HELPED PAY THE SALARIES OF OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE OR CURATOR OF EDUCATION AND OUR EDUCATOR.

THESE ARE STAFF POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT FUNDED THROUGH A TAX OR OTHER SOURCES.

AND REALLY HELPS SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD PARTICULARLY IN OUR EDUCATION PROGRAMS. AND I THINK THE STRENGTH OF THE MUSEUM IS NOT ONLY IN OUR MISSION AND OUR EXHIBITS BUT IN OUR PROPERTY AND OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAMS. SO LAST YEAR WITH COVID WE ONLY SERVED TWENTY FORTY TWO HUNDRED SCHOOL STUDENTS BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE BACK ON TRACK.

I THINK TO GET BACK TO OUR TEN THOUSAND I MEAN IF YOU GO TO THE PROPERTY NOW YOU WILL SEE JUST ABOUT EVERY SCHOOL DAY IS BOOKED AND WE'RE HAVING TO TURN AWAY SOME SCHOOL GROUPS NOW BECAUSE WE ARE SO BUSY. ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND RESIDENTS VISIT THE MUSEUM OR SIGN FOR A PROGRAM EACH YEAR. THIS IS BASED ON OUR ZIP CODE DATA AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE PEOPLE THAT COME TO PARK FOR HERITAGE OR COME TO ONE OF THE OTHER BIG EVENTS LIKE THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL OR THE ITALIAN FESTIVAL.

AND SO WE REACH A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN ON OUR PROPERTY, THE MUSEUM PROPERTY AND OUR EXHIBITS ARE OPEN FREE OF CHARGE TO EVERYONE ON THE ISLAND AND EVERYONE WHO VISITS HERE AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. OUR GOAL IS TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO CARE FOR THE LOW COUNTRY AND TO MAINTAIN THE BEAUTY OF THE HISTORIC HONEY HORNE PROPERTY WHICH IS OWNED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. OUR ATTENDANCE THIS YEAR HAS GONE BACK UP STARTING IN THE FALL AND THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY.

WE ARE ON TRACK TO HAVE OUR LARGE ATTENDANCE EVER FOR THE DISCOVERY HOUSE AND WE ARE EXCEPTIONALLY BUSY AND SO YOU HAVE THAT DATA. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY, THIS MONEY HELPS SUPPORT OUR DISCOVERY LAB EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND OUR EDUCATION PROGRAMS NOT ONLY DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

FREE OF CHARGE. AND SO THOSE ARE THAT'S WHY WE NEED HELP SUPPORTING OUR EDUCATOR POSITIONS. OF COURSE WE HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET WHICH I'VE SEEN SOME AT

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THE ART MARKET IS COMING UP IN APRIL 2013 24TH. >> I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT WE DO SEVEN EXHIBITIONS IN THE BUILDING PER YEAR.

AND THE ONE THAT WE HAVE UP RIGHT NOW OPENED ON FRIDAY. THIS IS THE FIRST ANNUAL HIGH SCHOOL REGIONAL THAT HAS ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AND BEAUFORT COUNTY HAVE BEEN INVITED. WE HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN PIECES IN THE GALLERY AND IT HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR BEST ATTENDED EXHIBITIONS SO FAR. WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 400 VISITORS PER DAY THROUGH THIS EXHIBITION. MICHAEL SMALLS, DINO BADGER YOU SEE FREQUENTLY AT THE MUSEUM LEAVING BASKETS AND WHENEVER YOU COME TO OUR PROPERTY IN THE SPRING YOU WILL SEE OUR EDUCATORS OUT WITH SCHOOL GROUPS ON OUR BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. ALSO SUPPORT FOR THINGS LIKE THE MARCH TACKY HORSES AND OTHER CRITTERS ONE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM IS RANKED AS THE THIRD MOST POPULAR MUSEUM IN SOUTH CAROLINA AHEAD OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE MUSEUM. BY TRIP ADVISOR AND WE ARE ONE OF ONLY TWO THINGS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND THAT ARE IN THE TOP 100 THINGS TO DO IN SOUTH CAROLINA. WE'RE RANKED 19TH AND SO THE TOWNS SUPPORT FOR A COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM HAS ALLOWED US BOTH TO BE FREE TO VISITORS AND TO PROVIDE LOW COST SCHOOL PROGRAMS BUT ALSO TO MAKE THE MARK OVER THESE PAST 15 YEARS AND BECOME SOMETHING THAT'S RECOGNIZED STATEWIDE AND NATIONALLY AS A GREAT THING ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THAT IS THROUGH THE TOWN'S ASSISTANCE. AND SO THAT IS I THINK A SIGNIFICANT AND LASTING EFFECT THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL AND TOWN STAFF HAS MADE BY SUPPORTING COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM.

AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT. THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS. GOOD MORNING, RICK. THANK YOU.

GOOD TO REPORT. OVER THE YEARS IT'S BEEN A CONCERN BUT IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED IN A POSITIVE WAY IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING THE FACILITY IN TERMS OF PROPERTY, PLANT EQUIPMENT AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S IN YOUR BUDGET? IN TERMS OF ANY BIG ITEMS COMING FORWARD THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED?

>> YES. SO. SO I'M NOT WRITING YET.

YEAH. SO I MET WITH MARK LAST WEEK AND THAT'S THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY FROM THE TOWN AND AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.

I MEAN HE WANTS TO DO MORE WORK FROM THE TOWN SIDE ON THE SINCE ALL THE BUILDINGS AND THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE TOWN TO DO SOME OF THAT LONGER TERM MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THAT ARE ISSUES LIKE OUR SHARED PATHS THAT PROBABLY NEED A MORE COMPLICATED SOLUTION LIKE LIKE MAYBE POURING CONCRETE TABBY TO MAKE THEM A D.A. ACCESSIBLE.

AND SO I THINK FOR SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS LIKE THAT ON THE PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT SIDE THAT YES, WE LIKE THE TOWN I THINK IS INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING THOSE THROUGH THE CHP.

I HAVE ALSO DONE APPLICATIONS TO A TAX FOR SOME OF THE BUILDINGS LIKE THE HAY BARN RENOVATION WHICH WILL BECOME THE SANTA ELAINA MUSEUM. AND SO THE MONEY FOR THAT SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY A TAX IN THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND A TAX DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM THE TOWN'S OPERATING BUDGET BUT IT'S COMING FROM TOURIST TAXES INSTEAD. AND SO WHENEVER POSSIBLE I TRY AND SECURE THAT MONEY WITHOUT ASKING THE TOWN TO TAKE THAT OUT OF TOWN TAXPAYER FUNDS.

YES. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU RUNNING?

>> I APPRECIATE THE FINE JOB THAT CLOSE TO DISCOVERY CONTINUES DOING OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT I HAD AS FAR AS THE REQUEST FOR THE NINETY TWO K GOING TOWARDS THOSE THREE POSITIONS. BUT I JUST WANT TO GET MORE CLARITY.

THE SEVENTY FIVE CAME FROM LAST YEAR WAS TOWARDS THOSE THREE POSITIONS ALSO.

WAS THAT RIGHT. >> YEAH. AND SO WE HAVE WE HAVE TRADITIONAL WE HAD A MUSEUM MANAGEMENT FEE AS PART OF AN M.O. YEAR WITH THE TOWN AND THAT STARTED IN 2007 AND WENT FOR 10 YEARS AND IT WAS RENEWED IN 2017 FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT MONEY WAS NEVER SPECIFIED IN THE M.O. YOU DIDN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE

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SO I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS IS THE A SALARY INCREASE WITH THOSE POSITIONS TO INCREASE FROM 75 GAIN TO 92? OR IS IT JUST WORK AND MORE HOURS DEVOTED TO THE POSITION?

>> YEAH. >> SO WHEN WHEN. SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

SO WHEN THAT MUSEUM MANAGEMENT FEE STARTED AND TWO 2007 THE MUSEUM'S BUDGET AND PUBLIC PROGRAMING WAS MUCH SMALLER AND SO WE HAVE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL EDUCATOR OVER TIME.

BUT IN 2000 SEVEN THAT SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND WAS BETWEEN 8 AND 9 PERCENT OF THE MUSEUM'S OPERATING BUDGET LAST YEAR THAT SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND WAS FOUR PERCENT OF THE MUSEUM'S OPERATING BUDGET. AND SO IT'S BECOME LESS OF AN AMOUNT OF SUPPORT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL BUDGET OVER TIME. AND THE MEET THE M.O. YOU ALLOWED THE MUSEUM TO INCREASE IT WITH MUTUAL AGREEMENT OF THE TOWN OVER THAT TIME.

BUT THE MUSEUM HAS NEVER MADE THAT ASK AND SO THIS IS OUR FIRST ASK OVER 15 YEARS TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO.

>> I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU OTHER THAN TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO PROVIDING THESE SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SO MANY OF THEM VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEM FOR FREE IS A VALID PARTNERSHIP A IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE MUSEUM AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT CONTINUING THAT. THANK YOU, RACH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECORD. THE APPLICANTS REQUEST IS NINETY TWO THOUSAND SEVEN SEVENTY FIVE WHICH REPRESENTS SIX POINT THREE PERCENT OF A BUDGET OF APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF MILLION IN THE USE OF THE FUNDS IS TO PARTIALLY OFFSET THE SALARY AND BENEFIT EXPENSES OF THREE STAFF. I THINK THE APPLICATION WAS SPECIFIC AGAIN SHOWING THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING IS SIGNIFICANT LESS THAN PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS, DONATIONS AND GRANTS YOU INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION A BALANCE SHEET OF JANUARY 30 FIRST TWENTY TWENTY TWO AND YOU COMPARED THAT TO THE JUNE 30TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE BALANCE SHEET IS THE BALANCE SHEET THAT IS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S AUDIT THE BALANCE SHEET EFFECT OF THE END OF JANUARY THIS YEAR. YES.

OKAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. HOAGLAND WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE CONCLUSION OF EACH AGENDA ITEM WHICH MEANS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SEVEN APPLICATIONS THIS COMMITTEE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM ISLAND REC ASSOCIATION THE REQUEST IS ONE MILLION NINETY NINE THOUSAND THREE OF FOUR WHILE I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT FUN AND WELLNESS SO HEARD COUNCILMAN LENNOX'S MESSAGE SO I RECEIVED FIVE QUESTIONS AND I'M GONNA GO RIGHT TO THE SLIDES MAYBE HIT ON A FEW OTHER ON THE WAY THROUGH.

>> I HAD A GREAT TWO HOUR PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL BUT WE'LL JUST KIND OF MOVE THAT ALONG QUICKLY. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE KEY POINT AND IT'S ACTUALLY LINE NUMBER THREE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SINCE 1986 AND THAT FIRST PARTNERSHIP INCLUDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ISLAND FIRST ISLAND REC CENTER OPENED IN 1988. OUR PARTNERSHIP REALLY HAS GROWN OVER THE YEARS AND WE'RE GONNA ALL WAY DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM WHICH IS INCLUDED THE OPENING NOT ONLY LOBBYING BUT THE OPENING OF THE NEW ISLAND REC CENTER PARK AND A REMODEL OF THE CURRENT ONE AND ALSO WORKING WITH PEOPLE FOR PARKS TO RAISE OVER 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO OFFSET THAT FACILITY. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I RECEIVED WAS ADDRESSING THE BOARD AND FIRST OF ALL I WANTED. WE HAVE ONE START UP THERE AND THAT'S TAKE A LITTLE LAD TERRIBLE. THAT IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TOWN THAT SERVES AS A LIAISON TO THE ASSOCIATION. SHE PARTICIPATES AT OUR BOARD MEETING AND ACTUALLY PROVIDES A

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SHE SERVED MANY YEARS ON THE ADVISORY BOARD, ROSE TO BE ON THE BOARD AND THEN NOW SERVING AS BOARD PRESIDENT. AND A LOT THOSE PEOPLE YOU SEE UP THERE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, HAD KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY THAT'S HOW WE FIND OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

THEY SERVE SOME TIME ON THE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN THEY MOVE THEM ALL UP, HAD TO

STOP HERE. >> WE HAVE A 17 FULL TIME PEOPLE.

THIS IS OUR CURRENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. I DO WANT TO MAKE SOME HIGHLIGHTS DOWN HERE IN THE YELLOW PARK IS WHERE WE SEE THE FUTURE GOING AND THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF ONE BEING THE OUTDOOR PROGRAM MANAGER THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ADDED INTO THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR NY 23 AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TACKLING VERY HARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> JUST TO REMIND YOU ABOUT OUR HOURS WERE A SEVEN DAY A WEEK OPERATION.

>> WE OPEN AT 530. THE POOL OPENS AT 530, FITNESS CENTER OPENS AT SIX THIRTY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE HAVE WEEKEND HOURS. I KNOW I SAY WE HAVE HOURS UP THERE BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF USAGE IS BEYOND THOSE HOURS FROM PEOPLE UTILIZING THEM.

WE HAVE TOURNAMENTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO BEYOND THE BASIC HOURS AND THAT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE SENIOR CENTER. ALSO YOU SEE PART SCHEDULING PART OF OUR AGREEMENT AND ERM ARE YOU USED TO WORK WITH THE FACILITY DEPARTMENT. THE SCHEDULE PARKS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE TOWN AND OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THE LIST OF THOSE PARKS RIGHT THERE.

>> JUST ONE QUICK TOUCH ON. WE HAVE LOTS OF BUSINESS PARTNERS AND LOTS OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS. OVER 140 BUSINESS PARTNERS AND SPONSORS WE ALSO WORK WITH OVER 60 DIFFERENT GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S A QUICK LIST AND I BELIEVE THAT IN MY APPLICATION I PROVIDED THE WHOLE LIST AS PART OF THAT SCHOLARSHIP SAYS.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON HERE. WE'VE RIDING ON SCHOLARSHIPS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE NINETEEN EIGHTY SIX. WE'VE ALWAYS PROVIDED SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THE COMMUNITY

IN THE FORM PRETTY PRETTY EASY. >> ALSO OUR REQUEST IS YOUR MOST RECENT TAX RETURNS.

AND THEN WE HAVE A SCALE SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BUILT OFF THE CHILDREN'S CENTER AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE TO BUILD OFF OF THAT. AND THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

OF COURSE OUR SCHOLARSHIPS WERE UP THIS YEAR. AS YOU'LL SEE THE PROGRAM NUMBERS THAT ARE NEXT. BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE .

PRETTY EASY PROCESS. IT'S ACTUALLY YOU CAN EVEN APPLY ONLINE AS PART OF THE

CAMP REGISTRATION OR ANY REGISTRATION. >> AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE MAINLY CHILDCARE CARE HEAVY IN THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS BUT WE DO PROVIDE FOR YOUTH SOCCER SWIM LESSONS AND OTHER SPORTS TO KEEP DOWN BELOW THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS THAT GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR HOURS. I MEAN TO ME THAT WAS PRETTY HUGE.

ONCE WE START ADDING THIS UP EVERY YEAR AS WE GO THROUGH ANALYSIS.

IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME HOW MANY HOURS WE'RE. AND THEN I START LOOKING OUT TO SEA FROM THE UNIVERSITY MARYLAND. GOOD INSTITUTE.

WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS HOW MUCH WE'RE ACTUALLY SAVING THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE VOLUNTEERS GIVE GIVE BACK THAT

MUCH MONEY. >> OUR PROGRAM NUMBERS WE ARE CERTAINLY UP FROM LAST YEAR.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SMALL NOTE UP THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND WERE UP TO THREE THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO THOUSAND AND PARTICIPANT VISITS.

SO YOU SEE THE FITNESS CENTER HAS REALLY KIND OF STARTED TAKING OVER.

HERE'S A TYPICAL DAY ON MONDAY A COUPLE MONDAYS AGO WE HAD 50 PEOPLE LADIES AND WATER AEROBICS. WE HAD TWO PEOPLE SWIMMING IN LAPS WITH FOUR LANES.

WE HAD ANOTHER 30 PEOPLE OUT IN THE GYM DOING EXERCISE, THE UPSTAIRS FITNESS CENTER ALL THE MACHINES ARE BEING USED AND WE HAD ABOUT 100 PICKUP BALLPLAYERS.

SO WE WERE VERY BUSY THAT MORNING AND IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TO SEE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WE HOPE TO BE WHEN THE NEW FACILITY FACILITY WAS BUILT OPENED A COUPLE OF THINGS I KNOW AND SOME OF THE DATA THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SCHOOL KIDS IN OUR LESSONS. COGAN IN FACT THEY JUST RELEASED IT IN THE SPRING.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SCHOOL LESSONS BACK AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CHILDREN'S

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WE'VE UPDATED OUR WEB SITE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HEARD HEAVILY FROM THIS SURVEY AND BEGIN TEXT MARKETING WHICH IS TWO ITEMS THAT WE'VE STARTED STARTED WITH RIGHT AWAY AND THINGS THAT WE WORKED ON IN THIS SURVEY WAS ACTUALLY

COMPLETED IN JANUARY. >> WHEN WE GO ONE MORE WE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LOOKING

AHEAD AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE BUDGET. >> FIRST OF ALL, SOME OF OUR CONCERNS ALWAYS OBVIOUSLY STAFFING, FINDING PEOPLE, KEEPING PEOPLE IS ALWAYS BEEN A CHALLENGE OR REALLY MORE OF A CHALLENGE AND IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST AND ESPECIALLY FINDING PEOPLE TO WORK PART TIME AND THE GENERAL COSTS OF BUSINESS. I MEAN EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THIS ROOM THE COST OF BUSINESS IS GOING UP AND WORK EXPERIENCING THAT WHETHER IT BE THE COST OF CHLORINE, THE RUN THE POOL UNIFORMS FOR THE PROGRAM MEALS, SNACKS FOR THE KIDS, THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THOSE ARE ALL AREAS OR OVERSEEING THE COSTS BUSINESS HAS GONE UP.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY WHAT I THINK IS WHAT NEXT IS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE TOWN ON THE MASTER PLAYING THE CROSSINGS PART IN MIDLAND PARK AND CHAPLAIN PARK AND THEN BEING HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW PROGRAMS WOULD GO INTO THOSE PARKS ONCE THEY ARE COMPLETED AND UP THERE. I TALKED ABOUT THE ADDING AN OUTDOOR REC PERSON AND THIS IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON AND THEN I SAY BUILDING BACK EVENTS. WELL, HERE'S TWO EXAMPLES.

WE HAD A GREAT BOISTEROUS WAS AT FULL LEVEL THIS YEAR AND WINK FEST WHICH IS GOING TO BE THIS SATURDAY. WE'RE BACK AT FOLEY RUNNING OPERATIONAL AFTER TWO YEARS OF CANCER CANCELATION AND 2S WE'RE REALLY KIND OF THE PLANNING SESSION IN SESSION.

COUNCILMAN LENNOX PARTICIPATED IN OUR PLANNING SESSION THIS YEAR.

BUT ALONG WITH JENNIFER RAY FROM THIS STAFF AND TAYLOR LADD ,HOPEFULLY I CAN DO THIS RIGHT BACK TO THE. YES. SO WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT WHERE

OUR OVERALL BUDGET IS ABOUT 8 PERCENT INCREASE. >> NEED TO BACK UP ONE QUICKLY NEED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE TOWN FINANCED DEPARTMENT PROVIDES US AND HELPS US WITH OUR PAYABLES. PAYROLL ALSO PROVIDES MONTHLY STATEMENTS FOR US AND THEN WE WE ARE AUDITED ON ANNUALLY AND ALL THAT INFORMATION IS THAT WE WORK THROUGH THE TIME FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR ALL THEIR HELP. SO AND IT REALLY KIND OF MAKES THIS PARTNERSHIP REALLY UNIQUE AND THE FACT THAT HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM DO THAT OVERALL THIS YEAR IT'S AN 8 PERCENT INCREASE THE BUDGET OVERALL WE'RE ASKING IN THE TOWN FOR A LITTLE OVER 1 PERCENT TO AREAS IN THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT AND THEN IN THE THERAPEUTIC REC WE'VE ACTUALLY CHANGED THAT TITLE TO ADAPTIVE RECREATION SUPPORT INCREASE IN

SALARIES. >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. AND THEN AS WE DRAW DOWN THERE ARE SOME DECREASES IN THE PAYROLL TAXES AND BENEFITS. ACTUALLY WE HAVE TWO THINGS HAPPEN THERE. ONE IS OUR WORKER'S COMP MOD HAS COME DOWN WHICH IS VERY EXCITING MEANING NOBODY'S GOTTEN HURT ON THE JOB FOR A WHILE.

>> AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS ACTUALLY OUR HELP, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND I KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING. WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY HEALTH INSURED? WELL, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO WHAT'S CALLED AN ALL SAVERS PROGRAM THROUGH UNITED HEALTHCARE BEFORE AND WHAT THEY DO THEY LOOK AT US AS WHOLE AS A GROUP NOT BY AGE.

AND SO THAT WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT WE HAVE A REALLY WE HAVE A MUCH YOUNGER STAFF AND SOME OF THE OLD GUYS LIKE MEANS SET KILLING OUR BUDGET BEING HIGHER IN HEALTH CARE.

WE GET TO BE ALL THE SAME RATE. AND SO THAT HAS HELPED US REDUCE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE SIGNIFICANTLY AND WE'VE JUST RENEWED IT WITH A VERY MINIMAL INCREASE.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT YOU'LL FIND WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO DECREASE.

AND SECONDLY IN THE FACILITIES WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CODED THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING AND ONE WAS BEING SPRAYING THE BUILDING ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE ENDED THAT.

AND THEN THAT WAS ABLE THAT ALLOWED US TO KIND OF REDUCE SOME OF OUR GENERAL OVERALL

OPERATE EXPENSES. >> FRANK, I'M HAPPY BEFORE YOU MOVE OFF THAT SLIDE.

I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE COUNTY SUPPORT IS STILL THERE. >> AND WE MEET ANNUALLY WITH THE COUNTY IN JANUARY AND WE'VE MET WITH FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIR MARK LAWSON AND WE WE

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REPRESENTATIVES DO A GOOD JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS. >> WELL, I WENT BACK TO THIS SLIDE TO AND I'VE ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED SO I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT THIS REQUEST REPRESENTS 36 PERCENT.

>> A THREE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET AND THE FUNDS ARE TO BE USED FOR OPERATIONS.

AND FRANK DID OR FRANK DIDN'T MENTIONED IT REPRESENTS A 1 PERCENT INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR 65 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL FUNDING COMES FROM NON-GOVERNMENTAL SOURCES.

>> YES, SIR. QUESTIONS BILL. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE AWARE OF COURSE THAT THE TOWN IS INVOLVED IN A STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORT RELATIVE TO PARKS RECREATION AND YOU'VE INDICATED IN YOUR SLIDE LOOKING AHEAD THAT YOU'RE PARTICIPATING IN THAT. COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE FURTHER?

SURE. >> WELL, WE'VE BEEN. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS ARE WE

ARE WE STUDYING THIS AS THOROUGHLY AS WE SHOULD? >> I BELIEVE SO.

I'VE BEEN HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN SEVERAL SESSIONS WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT MASTER PLANNING SERVICE AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OUR INPUT IN OUR VISION WHERE EACH INDIVIDUAL SITE THAT'S BEING MASTERPLAN AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE REALLY ACTIVELY INVOLVED AND WE'RE ALSO WE'RE ENGAGED TO ONCE THE FACILITIES AND I'LL JUST USE PICK A BALL BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN AS WE MOVE FORWARD IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PICK A BALL FACILITY, WE'RE READY TO OPERATE AND MANAGE THAT AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE ON THAT.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED THE WHOLE TIME IN PROVIDING WE'RE FINDING OUT WHAT SPECIFIC FACILITIES WOULD GO IN THERE AND HAVING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SEE PROGRAMMATICALLY THAT WE CAN DO BUT ALSO WAYS TO SUPPORT FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S SOME WALKING TRAILS AND OTHER THINGS, THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY GOING BACK AND REPEATING MYSELF SEVERAL TIMES HERE.

BUT THE OUTDOOR REC COMPONENT I THINK IS GOING TO BE A KEY ELEMENT TO US AND BEING ABLE TO DISPLAY EXPAND OUR SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S PROMOTING THE WALKING TRAILS THAT COULD GO INTO MID ISLAND PARK OR CONNECTING ON BIKE PALE TRAILS.

I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO ALL THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, FRANK, FOR BEING HERE AND ALL THAT YOU DO YOU'VE ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON A COUPLE THINGS HERE.

WITH THE TOWN BEING FORMERLY USED, THE WORD CHARTERED OR LABELED AS A LIMITED SERVICE GOVERNMENT ABSENT A PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. WHY? OKAY. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THE YOUTH BEING EXPOSED TO RECREATION AND EDUCATION COMBATS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

>> OKAY. SO IN THAT SENSE YOU CARRY A HEAVY LOAD, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW THE SOCIAL EXPOSURE OF CHILDREN IS SO IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY NOWADAYS WHEN WE ARE SO IN TUNE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON SOCIAL MEDIA VS. INTERACTING WITH ONE ANOTHER AND RECREATION ALWAYS GIVES US AT LEAST IN MY MIND A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER.

SO HEAVILY APPRECIATE THE TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WERE GIVEN IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE. AND I'M SURE THAT YOU COULD YOU COULD DO MORE. OKAY. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED NO FAULT OF YOURS AS TO THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL POPULATION THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO SERVE. RIGHT. AND TO THAT END YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPAND OUR THOUGHTS A BIT. I WAS THE ONE THAT ASKED A

QUESTION ABOUT THE BOARD. OKAY. >> I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE

NAMES OR MAKING AN ASSUMPTION HERE. >> YOU CAN CORRECT ME HOME BUT

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SURE. YEAH. OUR LATINO POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW ON HILTON HEAD. YOU SEE IT WITH THE SOCCER. WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION

ABSORBS MANY. ABSOLUTELY. >> SO I KNOW THAT MISS LADD HAS JOINED THE BOARD BASED ON US REWRITING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HAD A WHOLE PARKS AND REC PORTION SO WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEBODY REPRESENTING THE TOWN IN THAT ASPECT.

BUT I VIEW THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION NO DIFFERENT. RIGHT.

WE NEED THAT. SO I'D ENCOURAGE US TO WORK DILIGENTLY ON TRYING TO FIX THAT. THAT PART OF IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE THOSE COMMENTS TO YOU.

OK. THANK YOU. FRANK, I'M GRATEFUL.

TO YOU AND TO YOUR WHOLE PROGRAM FOR THE MANY THINGS THAT YOU DO AND WHAT ACTUALLY IS A REASONABLE REQUEST FROM US. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN IN FACT SUPPORT THAT OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM WITH JOINT OWNERSHIP AND JOINT PROGRAMS BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY. SOME OF THE PARKS WERE COUNTY OWNED. I THINK WE'RE MAKING STRONG GOOD STRIDES IN IMPROVING THAT MORNING. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE ONGOING EFFORTS THAT ARE

BEING MADE TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. >> I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC THAT

OBVIOUSLY DON'T GET ME IN TROUBLE HERE. >> BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OVER THE MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL OF WHAT I CALL OLD BARKER FIELD WOULD GO A LONG WAYS IN HELPING THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND RIGHT NOW IT MANAGED BY THE COUNTY AND OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT COME BACK HERE. NOW ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SCHEDULE PROGRAMS OUT THERE IN THE COUNTY PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS ALLOWED US SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO UTILIZE THAT FACILITY.

SO WHETHER WE OWN IT OR THEY OWN IT. WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES THAT CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES. BUT I TRULY BELIEVE IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MAKE THE FULL MASTER PLANNING PROCESS WORKS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE BARKER FIELD UNDERNEATH OUR CONTROL.

SOME OF IT'S GOT TO DO WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF FACILITIES. YOU KNOW AARON'S DOING A GREAT JOB IN MAINTAINING OUR FACILITIES AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAD THAT SAME LUXURY

OF HAVING BARKER FIELD THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. >> WE'RE TRYING NUDGE THAT FORWARD. IT'S INTERESTING NEGOTIATIONS LET'S SAY BECAUSE WE HAVE COMPLEX RELATIONSHIPS THERE. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING SO MANY WONDERFUL SERVICES TO SO MANY CITIZENS HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY BACKED UP BY THE SCHOLARSHIPS TO THOSE THAT REALLY CAN AFFORD IT. GREAT JOB.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THANK YOU, FRANK. IT'S OBVIOUS FROM YOUR APPLICATION YOU GET A LOT OF DATA FROM THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION AND YOU GET EQUALLY VALUABLE DATA FROM USC BE ON THE OYSTER FESTIVAL.

THIS IS A TOPIC FOR ANOTHER MEETING BUT I WOULD REALLY BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW YOU EVOLVE THAT DATA INTO YOUR PROGRAMING GOING FORWARD. NOT NOW BUT AT A LATER DATE.

AND LASTLY, WOULD YOU SUPPLY THIS COMMITTEE WITH A COPY OF YOUR JUNE 30 OF 21 AUDIT AND THE MOST RECENT IN A ROOM TOWN PREPARE BALANCE SHEET AND IN YOUR STATEMENT I ASSUME THAT'S

FEBRUARY 28. >> IF I COULD GET. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, FRANK. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS THE LOW COUNTRY REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS PALMETTO BREEZE AND THE GRANT REQUEST IS FOR TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE

THOUSAND 478. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> HENRY CHRIS THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE ADMINISTRATION FOR LRT A PALMETTO BREEZE ALSO HERE AS I'M SURE A FACE YOU KNOW WELL MARILYN FRIENDZONE, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

PRESENT TODAY. >> JUST REAL BRIEFLY IN OUR WE DID A LITTLE FINE TUNING AFTER WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION AND IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD ENTERTAIN.

WE DO HAVE A MODIFICATION TO BRING THE TOTAL DOWN TO TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT DOLLARS. I'M SURE THAT GOING DOWN IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THIS SIDE PAGE THREE OF ELEVEN FOR YOUR REPORT.

>> PAGE 311 THE APPLICATION IS THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT ON THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE FOR YOU

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IT'S TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT DOLLARS IS THE TOTAL WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF TWO HUNDRED THIRTY TWO THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FOUR DOLLARS TOWARDS THE URBAN SERVICE AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TOWARD THE RULE SERVICE.

3 4 7 8. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. >> RIGHT.

AND THAT WOULD BE WE'RE ASKING THAT TO BE AMENDED TO 2 8 2 4 0 4 TO 82.

YES, YOU CALLED FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME. >> I'M GOING TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THE

TOWN'S CONTINUED SUPPORT. >> JUST A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW. THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT WE DO AT PALMETTO BREEZE. WE CONNECT THE LOW COUNTRY AND THE SIMPLEST WAY THAT WE CONNECT THE LOW COUNTRY IS BY CONNECTING OUR WORKERS WITH JOBS ON HILTON HEAD AND THOSE COME FROM THE REST OF THE REGION WE SERVE THE FIVE COUNTIES WE SERVE.

SO BEAUFORT COUNTY, HAMPTON, ALLENDALE, JASPER AND CARLTON COUNTY WE CONNECT FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE REGION BRINGING THEM IN ON OUR COMMUTER BUS SERVICE TO HILTON WHERE THEY CAN WORK ON JOBS AS ALREADY LEFT. BUT I'M SURE HE CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A REGIONAL WORKFORCE AND WE BRING THOSE FOLKS FROM THOSE PLACES AND THERE'S SOME DATA THAT WE PROVIDED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT COME INTO HILTON HEAD. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS LATER ON ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE CONNECT FOLKS THAT COME TO VISIT OUR ISLAND AND FOLKS LIVE ON OUR ISLAND WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR TROLLEY SERVICE. THE OTHER TWO THINGS WE DO IS THAT WE REDUCE CONGESTION.

I THINK THE LAST NUMBERS WE HAVE IS ABOUT ABOUT 15000 PASSENGER TRIPS, CAR TRIPS WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO A GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON THE ISLAND AND ALSO A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE WHO LIVE VISIT WORK HERE. AND THEN THE FINAL THING WE DO IS WE CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT I WOULD CALL AND I THINK OTHERS HAVE CALLED THE ISLAND EXPERIENCE AND WE DO THAT THROUGH PRIMARILY OUR TROLLEY SERVICE, OUR TROLLEY SERVICE FOLKS ARE OUR OPERATORS PARTICIPATE WITH THE UNIVERSITY WITH DR. CALVERT ISLAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FRIENDLY AND THAT THEY CAN POINT FOLKS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS THEY GO AROUND JUST OUT OUR COMMUTER BUS SERVICE AND DETAILS ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, WE EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE PANDEMIC WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF SLOWDOWN AS BUSINESS SHUT DOWN BUT WE'RE ABLE TO OPERATE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PANDEMIC. WE HAVE ACTUAL SAFETY PERFORMANCE.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WITH THE HELP OF SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIKE LIKE THE TOWN, THE COUNTY AND OTHERS, WE'RE ABLE TO PROCURE THREE ADDITIONAL MOTOR COACHES AT ABOUT 600 K A POP AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO MORE TO BE DELIVERED IN 2020 TO BACK TO WHAT WE'VE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR 20 21 TROLLEY SEASON WE SAW AN INCREASE AND THIS IS A RECORD INCREASE TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY NINE PERCENT INCREASE TO FIFTY TWO THOUSAND PASSENGER

TRIPS. >> IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY SOMETIMES THE VALUE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO A COMMUNITY BUT I THINK THESE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS EVEN WITH THE PANDEMIC WAS WE'RE SEEKING TO STAND UP A FIXED ROUTE SERVICE THAT PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE ABOUT THE ISLAND VISITORS AND RESIDENTS THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK AND I THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. FIFTY TO THOUSANDS PRETTY REMARKABLE INCREASE OF COURSE BY OUR ESTIMATES THAT REPLACED 15000 PASSENGER TRIPS. ANOTHER ACTUALLY NO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION WHICH IS OUR NATIONAL KIND OF TRADE ASSOCIATION THERE ARE NUMBER CRUNCHERS HAVE FIGURED THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S INVESTED IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION YOU SEE A FIVE DOLLAR ECONOMIC IMPACT SO THE CAN THE TOWN'S LAST INVESTMENT YEAR LAST YEAR ABOUT TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE K OUR ESTIMATE IS THAT BROUGHT ABOUT ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC IMPACT. YOU THINK ABOUT THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE WORK, BE ABLE TO VISIT OUR STORES, SHOP OUR PLACES AND PART OF THAT WAS BY EXPANDING OUR TROLLEY SERVICE TO ADD NINE NEW STOPS WITH A MID ISLAND SERVICE CONNECTED WITH THE SOUTH ISLAND SERVICE THAT EXISTED OR IN THE FUTURE THIS NEXT YEAR. COMING UP WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE OUR TROLLEY APRIL 9TH THROUGH LABOR DAY KEEPING THE SAME SERVICE HOURS TWO THOUSAND ONE FARE FREE OUR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OF MARKET CREATION BRIAN SULLIVAN'S AND REALLY GOOD JOB PRODUCING WHAT IS A VERY MUCH MORE ROBUST AND I THINK AN ACTUAL PRODUCT OF A WRITER'S GUIDE IF YOU WILL. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADVERTISE WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND HAVE THEM INVEST IN THAT WRITERS GUIDE. IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY GOOD PRODUCT WE CAN PUT IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING OUR ISLAND ON THAT TROLLEY AND DIRECT THEM TO DIFFERENT PLACES, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND THEY CAN ENJOY AND TRULY FIND OUT THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE THERE HIDDEN GEMS ON OUR ISLAND.

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WE'VE MADE SOME MINOR JUSTICE TO THE ROUTE JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE DELIVERING THE BEST THE BEST WE CAN TO ENHANCE THAT ISLAND BRAND EXPERIENCE AGAIN ALL OUR OUR OPERATORS ARE ISLAND AMBASSADORS. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THIS YEAR SUDDENLY WORKING ON FOUR IN THE PAST BIT TO INSTALL VIDEO MONITORS THAT PRODUCE A LOOP VIDEO THAT PROMOTES NOT COMMERCIAL NECESSARILY STUFF BUT BUT THINGS ARE HAPPENING HERE THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING SUCH AS CULTURE, AGE, HIV EVENTS THINGS GO ON AT THE GOLD MUSEUM, THE HISTORIC MITCHELL BALL PARK AND SOME ISLAND TRIVIA JUST KIND OF SHOWCASE OUR OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND.

WE ALSO JUST PAYS PART OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE PART OF THE PARADES.

WE JUST PART OF THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE THIS LAST WEEKEND.

I MEAN WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT PARTNER AS BEST WE CAN BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO BE NOT JUST A PUBLIC TRANSIT PROVIDER BUT PART OF WHAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE .

THEY COME TO THE ISLAND. THE BIG THING THAT WE'VE GOT IN THE WORKS COMING UP IS WE'RE WE HAVE A PLANNING STUDY UNDERWAY TO PLAN FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A ROUTE TO SERVE THE AIRPORT FOLKS WHO CAN ARRIVE AT THE AIRPORT WHETHER BY AIRPLANE BY FOOT OR CAR AND CONNECT THEM WITH THE REST OF THE ISLAND WHERE I DON'T KNOW HALFWAY OR SO THROUGH WITH THAT WE DON'T HAVE A REAL HARD DAYS. WE'VE DONE SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH.

WE'RE DOING STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT NOW. SO OUR HOPE IS TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION ON THE NORTH THE ISLAND PARTICULARLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE FLYING IN AND REALLY FOR LACK OF A TRIP STUCK AT THE AIRPORT BECAUSE NOT REAL CARS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH GOOBERS LIFTS AND NOT A SHUTTLE SERVICES AVAILABLE.

HERE'S THE BREAKDOWN OF AGAIN THAT ASKED THAT WE'VE GOT THIS YEAR CONSIST OF OF REALLY TWO PARTS. ONE OF THEM IS THE URBAN SERVICE WHICH IS ON THIS SLIDE A LION'S SHARE OF OUR OF OUR FUNDING COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM FTA GRANTS AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT PORTION THAT TWO HUNDRED THIRTY TWO THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED FOUR DOLLARS TO MATCH AS THE TOWN HILTON SHARE FOR THE LOCAL MATCH FOR THE URBAN SERVICE AND THEN THE OTHER PART THAT WE'VE GOT IS A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE RURAL COMMUTER BUS SERVICE AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS THAT'S THE SERVICE IS BRINGING THE WORKERS IN THERE ORIGINATING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE THE THE REGION.

THOSE COUNTIES ARE SUPPORTING IT AS WELL. WELL, WE'RE ASKING FOR HILTON HEAD TO HELP US SUPPORT THAT THAT SERVICE AS WELL. AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT REPORT. YOU JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER. THAT'S GREAT NEWS .

WE HEAR VERY GOOD NEWS ABOUT YOUR YOUR DRIVERS AS AMBASSADORS.

ARE YOU BY CHANCE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ONE OF OUR NEXT GUEST, THE UCB HOSPITALITY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM? YES, SIR, WE ABSOLUTELY ARE. WE WE PUT OUR OUR OPERATORS THROUGH THEIR ISLAND THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD ONE RECENTLY BECAUSE OF THE PENDING AND OTHER LIMITATIONS BUT IT'S DEFINITELY OUR GOAL.

I THINK ALL THE ONES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND A GOOD LINKUP WITH WHAT THE HOSPITALITY GROUP. THANK THANK YOU, SIR.

ALEX ETHANOL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. WERE YOU PROVIDED WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? OK. BECAUSE THE ONE THAT I HAVE HAD AND GOTTEN THE ANSWER TO YET. I REALLY LIKE AN ANSWER TO THIS ONE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT TODAY BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE AS A FULL COUNCIL I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT IN OUR POSSESSION AND THAT IS THE LEVEL OF RIDERSHIP TO HILTON HEAD FROM THE REGION. THIS IS IN RELATION TO THAT 50 K THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP. YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT HAS FLUCTUATE IF AT ALL OVER THE LAST SAY FIVE YEARS. THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO US NOT JUST FOR THE 50 K BUT ALSO WITH OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING DISCUSSION.

OKAY. SO IF YOU GUYS COULD PROVIDE THAT TO US THEY'D BE GREAT.

CERTAINLY. >> I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE A HANDOUT THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE HERE. I'D CALL YOUR TEST THAT IF YOU HAVE THAT WE GOT THAT QUESTION AND WE WERE WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT IN THE PRESENTATION BUT WE WERE ABLE TO PREPARE THIS

JUST SORT A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT. >> WE DIDN'T START COUNTING THOSE TRIPS IN REALLY ANY WAY THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING UNTIL ABOUT 2017. AND AT THAT TIME WE WEREN'T COUNTING SEPARATELY.

WE WERE BASICALLY COUNTING ALL THE TRIPS THAT CAME FROM THE REGION TO OUR ANNEX AND THEN FROM OUR ANNEX TO HILTON HEAD TOGETHER. BUT THEN IN FEBRUARY OF 2021 WE DID START COUNTING THOSE TRIPS INDIVIDUALLY TOGETHER. SO I'VE GOT SOME MONTHLY TOTALS AND IT'S IT'S EVERYWHERE FROM 4000 ABOUT FORTY SIX HUNDRED AND THE OFF SEASON TO ALMOST EIGHT THOUSAND DURING THE SEASON OF COMMUTER BUS TRIPS ON HILTON HEAD PER MONTH.

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THAT AS WELL. OKAY WELL OKAY. >> TWENTY IS GOING TO BE DEFINITELY SKEWED. WELL IT IS AND IF YOU KNOW IT ARE AND THESE ARE ESTIMATES BUT IN JULY OF 2017 WHICH THE YOU KNOW THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON WE WERE TAKING A LOOK AT LIKE 12000 TRIPS JUST ON THE HILTON HEAD AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AS WE GOT INTO THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, IT DROPPED DOWN. ONE THAT'S BLACKED OUT ON THE SHEET IS APRIL OF 2020.

I WOULD ABLE TO ESTIMATE THAT BECAUSE FRANKLY THE NUMBERS WERE SO LOW THAT THAT IT WAS I WAS ABLE TO GIVE YOU ANY KIND OF ACCURATE ESTIMATE ON THAT'S THE GRAPHIC.

SO HOW DID THE TRIPS RELATE TO RIDERSHIP? CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT? TRIPS AND RIDER WOULD BE THE SAME THING. WE COUNT WHAT WE COUNT IS WHAT'S CALLED UNLINK PASSENGER TRIPS. SO A PERSON GETS ON THE BUS IN ALLENDALE AND RIDES THE BUS TO OUR OUR FACILITY IN BLUFFTON. THAT'S ONE PASSENGER TRIP IN THAT SAME PERSON GETS ON CHANGES A BOSS GETS ON AND GOES FROM SAY YOU KNOW OUR CENTER TO THE SOUTH END. THAT'S ANOTHER PASSENGER TRIP. SO ORIGINALLY WE WOULD COUNT THAT AS TWO TRIPS AND WE JUST WERE COUNTING AS TWO ON THAT ONE ROUTE.

AND NOW WE'RE COUNTING THAT AS A TRIP ONE ROUTE FROM ALLENDALE TO OUR FACILITY AND THEN FROM OUR FACILITY. IT HAS A SEPARATE A SEPARATE COUNT, IF YOU WILL.

I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE ACCURATE AND MORE MEASURABLE STANDARD.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE I DON'T HAVE THAT. NO, THAT'S IN THE PACK.

>> OK. I'LL MAKE SURE I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU ALL ARE PROVIDED . SURE. APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

AND WHEN YOU GUYS VISIT US I GUESS IT WAS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR MARKETING. I KNOW THAT YOUR BUDGET IS SLIM IF ANY WHEN COMES TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. I'D JUST ENCOURAGE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO AS A TOWN TO HELP WITH THAT. PLEASE LET US KNOW. AND THE LAST ALSO MADE THIS AT OUR LAST ENCOUNTER WAS XML. THERE'S A SUBMISSION OF A REQUEST FROM YOU GUYS TO US.

CAPITA IMPROVEMENT. DOLLARS TO HELP WITH THE TROLLEY STOPS TO KIND OF TRANSFORM INTO MORE COMFORT STATIONS IS WHAT I WAS RECOMMENDED.

RIGHT. AND SO TO THE POINT ABOUT THE CHAMBER WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. CHAMBER WE HAVE A MEMBERSHIP I WANT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR A SECOND THEY'VE BEEN EXCELLENT PARTNERS OF OURS AND THEY PROVIDE US SOME SPACE BEING THAT WE'RE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT OPERATION. THEY PROVIDE US WITH SOME SPACE AND WHAT THEY PUBLISH AS WELL AS PUBLISHING AND SHARING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS IF YOU WILL.

WE'VE SEEN AN AMAZING IMPACT WHEN THEY SHARE THAT STUFF. SO WHILE WE HAVEN'T BEEN SPENDING MONEY WITH THEM, CERTAINLY WE COULD EXAMINE HOW WE COULD EXPAND THAT PARTNERSHIP AND BECOME EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE AS WE TRANSITION FROM BEING A STARTUP TO REALLY JUST OPERATE IN THE SEASON TO SEASON. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT INPUT TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. BROWN, ABOUT THE ABOUT THE THE COMFORT STATIONS OR THE TROLLEY STAFF'S THAT'S A VERY COMPLEX SITUATION AND WE HAVEN'T WE'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF APPROACHING IT FROM THE POINT OF MAKING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUEST OF THE STOPS THEMSELVES.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCURING THE LAND AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO TO BUILD OR TO ACQUIRE PRE-BUILT BUS STOPS, BUS SHELTERS IF YOU WILL.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IF I WOULD I WOULD DEFER TO YOUR EXPERTISE ON WHETHER OR NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WOULD BE THROUGH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUEST OR MAYBE PERHAPS ANOTHER DISCUSSION, ANOTHER KIND OF PARTNERSHIP ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD THOSE THINGS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION YES OR ABSOLUTE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE END PRODUCT.

BUT AGAIN IT'S PART OF OUR EXPERIENCE HERE ON HILTON HEAD AND ASKED IF WE WANT OUR VISITORS TO BE STANDING OUT IN POURING DOWN RAIN, RAIN OR HOT SUN AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS GREAT EXPERIENCE OF HAVING A BREEZE AS A PARTNER STARTS TO DIMINISH YOU.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO ESCALATE OUR EXPERIENCES. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. DEFINITELY NOTED. THANK YOU.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE RECEIVING HERE FOR THE COMMUTER SERVICE AS WELL AS FOR THE TROLLEY SLASH TOURIST SERVICES. I'M WONDERING DO OTHER

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WELL, ANGELA HENRY, IT'S GREAT WITH THE FINANCES BUT I'VE BEEN IN TRANSIT ABOUT 35 YEARS AND I DIDN'T WORK IN PENSACOLA AND THEY HAD SEASONAL TROLLEYS AS WELL AND WE'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL

AND PACKED THEM FULL AND UP AND DOWN THE STRIP AT NIGHT. >> AND SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUR TROLLEYS HERE, YOU KNOW THE FIRST YEAR WE DID THEM EARLIER IN THE DAY AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO WORK. AND THEN WE MOVED THEM FROM ONE TO 10:00 AT NIGHT USING JUST THAT SAME 10 HOUR SERVICE MODEL . AND SO I THINK WE'VE HIT A SWEET SPOT AND I COLLECT SCHEDULES, I RIDE TROLLEYS AND BUSES EVERYWHERE I GO.

I'M VERY INTERESTED OF COURSE IN TRANSPORTATION IN MOST BEACH COMMUNITIES HAVE SOME TYPE OF TROLLEY AND YOU'LL SEE THEM A LOT IN FLORIDA AND I BELIEVE IN MYRTLE BEACH.

>> THEY HAVE GOTTEN ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING TROLLEYS AS WELL.

>> SAVANNAH HAS TROLLEYS DOWN THERE. I THINK OURS ARE ONE NICE LOOKING TROLLEYS. I'VE SEEN THOSE I'VE USED THE SERVICE IN SAVANNAH FOR SURE.

HOP ON, HOP OFF AND THEN THIS WORKED VERY WELL CAUSE YOU'RE PAYING A FARE FOR THAT AND HERE WE HAVE THE GREAT BENEFIT THAT IS FAIR FREE. AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE MAJOR STIMULUS TO DRAWING PEOPLE ONTO IT TOGETHER WITH THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE SERVICE THAT YOU'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE WHICH WE APPRECIATE. SO I'M PLEASED ABOUT THAT.

FOLLOWING ON TO ALEX QUESTION ABOUT THE STOPS IF YOU'VE GOT CAPITAL FUNDS AVAILABLE, I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE SHELTER THAT'S BEING USED THERE AT THE FRONT OF NORTHRIDGE FOR THE COMMUTERS THAT ARE COMING IN, THAT STRUCTURE IS IT'S BEEN THERE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN THE 70S BY THE ROTARY CLUB.

WELL, THERE YOU GO. AS I LOOKED INTO THAT THAT WAS BEFORE I WAS A ROTARIAN HERE.

>> SO I DON'T RECALL THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT IS A FACILITY THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE OWNER IS OR HOW THAT HAS WORKED OUT.

BUT I THINK IT'D BE WORTHWHILE TO INVESTIGATE THAT TO IMPROVE THAT FACILITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE SUCH A VALUABLE SERVICE TO US HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND YES, SIR, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE BUS STOP AMENITIES AND I THINK THAT TYPICALLY IT'S A COOPERATIVE EFFORT WITH THE LOCALITY AND THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST IS THAT THE LOCALITY WOULD TAKE CARE OF IF IT WAS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR LAND ACQUISITION AND WOULD ALSO DO THE HARD SCAPE STUFF, THE POURING OF THE PAD AND WE WOULD EITHER PROVIDE A SHELTER OR PROVIDE THE FUNDS TO BUILD THE SHELTER WHICH WE HAVE

ALREADY PUT WAY TO DO. >> AND JUST WAITING. I THINK THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS IS THIS REALLY GONNA BE THE ROUTE IS THIS IS REALLY GOING TO WORK AND SO WE DIDN'T DO A THING THE FIRST YEAR BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE PRETTY SOLID WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND I THINK IT IS TIME TO START LOOKING AT HIGH PRIORITY.

WHERE DO PEOPLE WAIT THE LONGEST? WHAT KIND OF WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR AND FOR THAT I WOULD DEFER TO YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS TO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE. AND THEN WE WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER.

I DON'T HAVE AND I'LL BE HONEST ABOUT IT. PLACES WHERE WE OWN THE SHELTERS WE HAD CREWS THAT WENT OUT AND CLEANED THEM AND TOOK CARE OF THEM AND WE WOULD HAVE THE TRASH TRUCKS PICK UP THE TRASH AND YOU HAVE TO. THERE'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE INVOLVED AND I HAVE THREE MET THREE PEOPLE IN MY MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE TAKE ON TO DO WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY TO FUND NEW POSITIONS AND TO DO THAT KIND OF THING WHICH WE WOULD DO AS WE START TO GROW. BUT BUT A PARTNERSHIP IS REALLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO TO COME TO FRUITION. AND SO I WELCOME MEETING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MOVING THIS FORWARD I THINK WOULD BE USEFUL IF YOU COULD TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION ABOUT THE TYPE OF SHELTER THAT IS BEING USED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT SORT OF FACILITIES ARE THERE. MY COLLEAGUE HAS USED THE CURRENT THE TERM COMFORT STATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED PLUMBING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS BUT WE DO NOT SOME SHELTER FROM THE HOT SUN AND FROM THE POURING DOWN RAIN WE GET. AND SO I THINK IF YOU COULD COME BACK WITH SOME IDEAS ABOUT THAT WORK WITH OUR VERY PROFESSIONAL STAFF HERE WE COULD COME UP WITH A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM TO IMPROVE THE SERVICE EVEN FURTHER. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT COMMUTER SHELTER THAT'S THERE AT NORTHRIDGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT

SERVICES. THANK YOU. >> GOOD AND GOOD APPLICATION.

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THERE THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PENSION AND POSTAL PENSION EMPLOYEE BENEFITS EXPENSE AND LIABILITY AND I'M SURE THIS FOOTNOTE IN YOUR AUDIT.

SO THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. YES. BUT GIVE US A COPY OF LAST

YEAR'S AUDIT. >> I WOULD BE GLAD. AND JUST AS A NOTE WE ARE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFIT. AUTHORITY.

SAME WITH THE STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. SO THOSE ARE FOOTNOTED APPROPRIATELY IN OUR FINANCIAL STATE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THE MITRAL VALVE PRESERVATION PROJECT IS REQUESTING ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND WHICH IS CONSISTENT

WITH LAST YEAR. MOD WARD, WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON ALMOST.

GOOD MORNING. THANKS FOR LETTING US COME TO FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

I WILL DO AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE AND TRY TO RUN THROUGH THIS QUICKLY TO GET TO SOME QUESTIONS SO WE CAN KEEP THINGS MOVING ALONG. SO HERE WE GO.

SO THIS IS A NEW SITUATION FOR US. WE ENTERED INTO A MORE YOU WITH THE TOWN LAST YEAR AND WE'VE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE FUNDING NOT TO REMOVE ALL UTILITIES OVER. SO THERE IS A PERCENT ABOVE 5000.

THAT NUMBER IS TO GO TOWARDS PARK UTILITIES PER THE ANNUAL YOU AGREEMENT.

AND SO GOING FORWARD THIS MANAGEMENT TAKE CARE OF SOME STAFF AND SOME PARK IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO AS AS JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT ABOUT WHAT THIS FUNDING HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN GOING TOWARDS IT JUST TRYING TO GET US UP TO SPEED WITH BUILDING AT THE SITE AS YOU ALREADY KNOW. AND I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED A MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT THAT DETAIL TERMS THEY SEE AN ABILITY OF THE PARK. YOU'VE SEEN THIS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

SO THIS OF COURSE IS OUR PARK PLAN THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW.

AND I CAN'T MENTION THE SALAD DAYS OF THE CAMPAIGN AS A SALAD, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO PULLING THAT TOGETHER. JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY THAT IS THESE EFFORTS HAVE COME TO SUPPORT ARCHAEOLOGY ON THE SITE HAS PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN GET TO THE POINT EVEN DOING A CAMPAIGN. WE DON'T WORK AT THE SITE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. CATHERINE SEEBER HAS BEEN OUR PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR ON THE SITE THAT TOP LEFT CORNER THERE IS A SITE WHERE WE ARE ABOUT 85 PERCENT SHORT. WE FOUND A CHURCH ON THE PROPERTY AND SO THEY'LL BE PART OF OUR INTERPRETATION. AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T PUT A FULL CHURCH ON THAT SITE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A FOUR THOUSAND YEAR OLD INDIGENOUS IMPRINT IN THAT SAME LOCATION. SO THIS INTERPRETATION WILL TAKE CARE OF BOTH OF THOSE SITUATIONS ON THE SITE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CHURCH AND THE MITCHELL HISTORY BUT ALSO THIS ARCHAIC INTERPRETATION.

WE ARE NOT COMPLETELY SURE WHICH NATION THIS IS TABA OR THE ONLY RECOGNIZED NATION IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT THIS ALSO COULD BE THE LAST TIME I SAW OR THE HEADSTONE MATCHES. Q SO SO A CAT OKATIE IS TRYING TO HELP US TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN LAND WITH WHO WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO REPRESENT AS I'VE MENTIONED YOU BEFORE WE RECEIVED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS RECENTLY FROM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE ACTION FUND OF THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS TO MAP THE ARCHEOLOGICAL IMPRINT OF THE PARK AT A FIVE AND 31 APPLICANTS ONLY 27 SITES WERE CHOSEN. WE WOULD ONLY SITE IN SOUTH CAROLINA TO RECEIVE THIS WARD AND THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND AS PART OF THIS SITUATION.

WE'VE UNCOVERED A COOKING HEARTH. WE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST FOR COOKING BUT ACTUALLY WE BELIEVE THEY USE THIS HEART TO COOK TABBY WHICH OF COURSE IS STRUCTURED AS WIDELY SEEN ON THIS SITE. WE WERE TO HAVE A NICE POND IN THIS AREA THAT'S NO LONGER GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY STANDING STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE FROM THAT COMMUNITY 160 YEARS AGO. SO WE WOULD INTERPRET THIS AS A PART OF OUR OVERALL INTERPRETATION. SO WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES BUT THIS IS A VERY EXCITING THING TO FIND ON SITE. WE ALSO RECENTLY BEEN PART OF THE RECONSTRUCTION ERA NATIONAL HISTORIC NETWORK NEAR ABOUT 67 SITES ALONG THAT NETWORK. WE DO PROGRAMS AS YOU ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION COMING UP SOON AND I WANT TO PUT THIS OUT HERE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF SCOPE WE HAVE. WE ATTRACT PEOPLE NOT JUST FROM THIS DAY BUT ALSO FROM ALABAMA, GEORGIA, FLORIDA, NORTH CAROLINA, VARIOUS NORTHEASTERN STATES.

LAST YEAR WE HAD PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY AND PENNSYLVANIA.

OVER THE LAST THREE AND PERSONS MARYVILLE HAS TOUCHED ABOUT 3000 PEOPLE FOR THIS EVENT BECAUSE OF COLD THAT WE DECIDED TO MOVE VIRTUALLY WITH SOME PROGRAMING.

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>> TO OUR STATIONS IN THE PARK THESE ARE VERY COOL. THERE IS OF COURSE MARLENA SMALLS AND CORA MILLER DOING HARRIET TUBMAN AND THEN SOME GUY WITH AROUND HERE TALKING ABOUT MITCH OVALLE WHO'S IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. SO WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO DO ABOUT 2000 SCANS WITH TOURS RANGING FROM OVER 30 STATES. WHAT WAS REALLY COOL FOR US IS SO THE PEOPLE WE REACHED THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY REACH BUT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ARKANSAS ,COLORADO, IDAHO, ILLINOIS, MISSOURI, MONTANA AND OTHERS WHO NOW WE CAN PRETTY MUCH DENOTE THAT THEY ARE COMING TO THE SITE AND GETTING FAMILIAR WITH MITCH AVILA WEATHER HERE ON OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND. ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALUE OF COLLABORATION IS WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SO THIS PARTICULARLY ONE WITH EXPOSURE WOULD TRAVEL LEISURE MAGAZINE AND CONDÉ NAST AND TRAVEL LEISURE SECTION. WE WERE PART OF THE EDITOR'S NOTE THERE IN THE FAR CORNER AND THEN WE ACTUALLY VIDEO WITH CANDY NASS.

THIS IS EASILY A SIX FIGURE VALUE FOR US THAT WE COULDN'T PAY FOR.

SO WE'RE JUST GLAD TO HAVE THIS CONNECTION WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO PUT US OUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE SO THEY CAN COME AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER SINCE 2017.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TOURS OF THE PARK. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME.

THE PEOPLE COME INTO THE PARK EVERYDAY JUST PROGRAMS PROGRAMS SINCE 2017 TO REACH ABOVE HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE JUST WITH PROGRAMS IN FRONT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TRAVEL AND WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL COME TO OUR FAIR ISLAND.

WE ARE IN THIS NATURAL NEXT STATE CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT AS YOU MENTIONED WITH THE COMPASS GROUP WHICH THE NATIONAL FIRM WILL HELP US RAISE AT TWENTY TWO POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS . WE HAVE CREATED A NATIONAL STRATEGY BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE A NATIONAL STRATEGY TO GET US THERE. BUT ALSO WE ARE BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO UNDERGIRD LONG TERM FUNDRAISING FOR THE FUTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION WHICH LEADS TO THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE BUMP IN MEMBERSHIP FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR.

THAT LINE ITEM IS MEMBERSHIPS AND DONATIONS SO THE DONATIONS WOULD TAKE UP THE LION'S SHARE OF THAT FIGURE THAT YOU SAW THERE WAS SO MUCH LARGER FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING CLOSER TO THIS CAMPAIGN SITUATION. WE ARE DEVELOPING A KEEN ANNUAL STRATEGY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND GIVING GOING PAST NOT JUST REGULAR GIVE AND ALSO STATES AND BEQUEATH ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE FINANCIALLY SECURE. SO THAT IS WHY WE PROPOSE OR FORECASTED THOSE NUMBERS TO BE THAT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY WILL PULL THAT IN THIS YEAR. ALSO WITH SPONSORSHIPS FOR PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING SO YOU WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE FEEL THAT WE PUT OURSELVES OUT THERE AS A MAJOR CULTURE AND HERITAGE TOURISM DRAW. BUT OUR PLUMMETING BASE CASE WHICH DATES BACK TO 2019 AT THIS POINT PRE PANDEMIC WHEN OUR PRO FORMA WE ANTICIPATE BILL CAN CONTRIBUTE ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS INITIALLY TO A NONPROFIT ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATION SPENDING ANNUAL YOU ALSO BELIEVE AT THIS POINT. ONCE WE MOVE FURTHER ALONG THIS PROCESS THAT ANYWHERE WILL OBVIOUSLY INCREASE ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO GET LAUNCHED AND DO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO WITH THAT I'LL STOP ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

I'M ON. ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. GREAT.

HEAR ALL THE SUCCESS THAT YOU'RE ENJOYING AT THE MITCHELL VILLE SITE.

I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN YOUR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN. I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL FUND RAISER ASSISTING YOU WITH THAT. ARE YOU TRYING TO TARGET SOME MAJOR GIFTS TO BEGIN WITH TO STIMULATE THE SMALLER GIFTS? IS THAT THE NATURE OF THE WAY THE PROGRAM WOULD WORK? YES, THAT IS NEEDED TO BRING THE PROGRAM WILL WORK.

WE ARE BASICALLY OPERATING IN A SMART CAMPAIGN WHICH IS KIND OF A STREAMLINED APPROACH FROM COMPASS WOULD ALLOW US TO GATHER SOME LARGER TICKET SITUATIONS AND OF COURSE I CAN'T GO DEEP IN DETAIL. BUT WE DO HAVE I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE SOME SEVEN FIGURE GIFTS OR SEVEN FIGURE TARGETS THAT WE ARE TARGETING RIGHT NOW THAT COULD COME AS EARLY AS THIS YEAR TO PUT US IN THE PROPER CONTEXT TO GO AFTER THE FOOL 22.

WE'LL USE THAT TO LEVERAGE GETTING THE REST OF THOSE FUNDS IS COMPASS GIVING YOU SOME SORT OF IDEA ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO GENERATE TWENTY TWO POINT EIGHT DOLLARS? WE ARE WE ARE BENEFITING A LITTLE BIT FROM TIMING THE WHAT THE WHAT HOW THIS IS HAPPENING. SO WE'RE TELLING EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS A THREE TO FIVE YEAR SITUATION EVEN THOUGH I WILL JUMP OUT HERE AND SAY INTERNALLY WE LOOK IN A LITTLE SOONER THAN THAT MAYBE TWO TO THREE YEARS IF THINGS FALL THE WAY WE THINK THEY CAN'T FALL.

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>> SO I THINK WE CAN GET THERE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AGAIN, THE TIMING IS GOOD FOR US RIGHT NOW. THE STORY IS SO BIG. ABSOLUTELY SO IMPORTANT AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOUR PROGRAM AND YOUR PROJECT IS FILLING A UNIQUE CULTURAL TOURISM PURPOSE THAT IS NOT REALLY MET ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN THE NATION'S CAPITAL.

SO LET'S TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND RAISE THOSE LINES. SO ABSOLUTELY GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU, ALEX. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT TO YOU BEFORE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS THIS COMMENT I REMEMBER I GUESS BACK IN 2010. SO YOU WOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF THE SITTING COUNCIL AT THAT POINT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO SUPPORT AMITYVILLE AND DANCE? IT WAS.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HELP TELL THE STORY. OKAY.

AND JUST LOOK AT WHERE WE HAVE COME TO. RIGHT.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF YOUR TEAM AND YOU KNOW THE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE MUNICIPALITY. I'M GLAD THAT YOU AND MEASURED TO A DEGREE THE DEMO'S INVOLVEMENT. OKAY. AGAIN WE ARE LIMITED SERVICE GOVERNMENT. WE DON'T HAVE A MARKETING ON MS .

MCKEW DOES A GREAT JOB. HER OFFICE COMBINING OUR CULTURAL AFFAIRS BUT THE DMA REALLY CARRIES THE LOAD. OKAY. SO I JUST AGAIN CONTINUE TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE PUTTING A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE IN THAT SOURCE. RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT THIS OFFERS OUR COMMUNITY MORE OF AN EXPERIENCE OTHER THAN BEACHES AND GOLF. SO WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YES. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT REPORT.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE GOES WELL BEYOND YOUR GOES TO THE REGION, GOES TO THE STATE, GOES TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY. VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

SO NO QUESTIONS. JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. KEEP TELLING US HOW WE CAN HELP YOU. ABSOLUTELY. WE JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL'S SUPPORT IN THIS PROJECT.

YOU'VE HAD IT. THANK YOU. >> CARRY ON.

LOST YOUR AUDIENCE. >> BUT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE SAVING BEST FOR LAST YEAR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> HE IS REPRESENTING USC BE THE EVENT MANAGEMENT AND HOSPITALITY TRAINING OF AMBASSADORS ISLAND WIDE AND THE REQUEST IS BY DEFINITION OR

BY FORMULA ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY THOUSAND OH NINETY FOUR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

8 OR 9 POWERPOINT HOPEFULLY SAID ONE THING THAT WE TEACH AN ISLAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM SO I'M A BIG FAN OF WALT DISNEY AND HE SAYS WITH ALL OF HIS CAST MEMBERS TAKE FIVE MINUTES OUT OF EVERY SINGLE DAY AND MAKE AN EXCEPTIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR ONE OF OUR GUESTS.

>> SO I'M GOING TAKE FIVE MINUTES TODAY JUST FIVE MINUTES AND TRY AND MAKE THIS EXCEPTIONAL PRESENTATION OR Y'ALL CAN WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING?

>> PERFECT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO AS MENTIONED, WE ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE TOWN CODE . SO IN NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT THAT'S WHEN THIS CODE ORIGINALLY CAME INTO BEING AN ABORIGINAL IT WAS FUNDING THE HOSPITALITY ASSOCIATION AND SO THEY WERE REINVESTING IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY HERE WITHIN HILTON HEAD ISLAND IN 2011 AS A HOSPITALITY ASSOCIATION DISBAND THEN USCCB CAME IN AND SAID WE WOULD LIKE TO COME IN AND HELP PROMOTE THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AS

EDUCATORS PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS. >> WE WANT TO TAKE OVER THIS REINVESTMENT BY THE TOWN BACK INTO THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AND THE TOWN AGREED.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN THE NONPROFIT WHO'S BEEN RECEIVING FUNDING UNDER THIS TOWN CODE SECTION SINCE 2011. WE ARE VERY HONORED TO HAVE THIS BESTOWED UPON US AND WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. SO WE BECAME INTO BEING TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN SAID ONE THING THAT WE DO IS THE ISLAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SAY TO YOU THAT WE ARE NOW AT 26 HUNDRED. SO AS OF LAST FRIDAY WE EDUCATED A GROUP OF INTERNATIONAL INTERNS. GLAD TO HAVE THEM BACK WITH SEA PINES RESORT AND WE HAVE NOW SURPASSED OUR SIX HUNDRED MARK FOR CERTIFIED ISLAND AMBASSADOR .

ONE QUESTION THAT I DID GET WAS HOW ARE WE HELPING WITH REGARDS TO THE YOUNGER WORKFORCE? AND SO I HAD OUR STATISTICS RUN AND WE HAVE OVER 300 ISLAND AMBASSADORS THAT WE'VE CERTIFIED WITHIN HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL AND WE'RE OVER ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THAT WE'VE CERTIFIED THROUGH USCCB AND WE CONTINUE TO EDUCATE BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW ALL OF OUR HIGH

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SO THIS YEAR TODAY WE'VE DONE A LITTLE OVER TWENTY SEVEN SEMINARS AND WE'RE AT ONE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN TO DATE THIS YEAR ISLAND AMBASSADORS UP A BIT AND WE HAVE ABOUT SIX SIX TIMES THREE SO ABOUT 18 CLASSES SCHEDULED AND WE CONTINUE TO GET REQUESTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO WE ARE IN DEMAND AND I THINK IS THE INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE RETURNS THE NEED FOR THIS PROGRAM JUST GROWS BECAUSE WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT AN AMAZING PLACE HILTON HEAD IS SO THEY CAN'T SHARE OUR STORY.

>> STILL WE BRING THAT EDUCATION TO THAT INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW AMAZING HILTON HEAD IS AND HELP THEM TO SHARE THAT STORY.

>> SO OVERALL WE'RE AT TWENTY SIX HUNDRED AS I SAID WE'VE DONE OVER SIX HUNDRED AND

FIFTEEN SEMINARS AND OVER 10000 EDUCATIONAL HOURS. >> JUST BRIEFLY WE HAD WE WERE CLIMATE 2014 AND WE DID THE FIRST CERTIFICATION. YOU SEE THE PANDEMIC HIT AND NOW WE'RE ON THE WAY BACK UP. ONE INTERESTING FACT AND SECOND IT'S NOT GOING FORWARD.

COULD YOU MOVE IT FORWARD? IT'S NOT WORKING EITHER WAY. THANKS.

SO OUR CLASSES DIDN'T DECLINE VERY MUCH SO BECAUSE OF THE CODED RESTRICTIONS WE HAD TO LIMIT THE SIZE BUT THAT NUMBER OF COURSES THAT WE TAUGHT REMAINED PRETTY CONSISTENT.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH OUR OVERALL NUMBER DECLINED WITH CERTIFIED AMBASSADORS WE CONTINUE TO TEACH THE SAME AMOUNT OF COURSES BECAUSE THE NEED CONTINUED SAID THE SECOND PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER A QUALITY MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE AND THAT IS SIMILAR TO SECRET SHOPPING.

>> AND SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN SECRET SHOPPING. SO WE HAVE GIBSON WHO WORKED WITH FORBES TRAVEL AND HELPED TO GO OUT AND AGAIN VERY HIGH AND TRAVEL EXPERIENCE AS SHE

EVALUATES THEM AND SHE BROUGHT THAT EXPERTISE TO US. >> AND SO SHE HELPS ALL OF OUR

PARTNERS DETERMINE WHAT'S A QUALITY EXPERIENCE. >> DO YOU NEED TO BE GREETED WITHIN? IF I'M GOING OUT TO YOU POSEIDON, SHOULD I BE GREETED IN THE FIRST 30 SECONDS ARRIVING OR SHOULD IT BE THE FIRST MINUTE OF ARRIVING?

>> SHOULD YOU HAND ME MY MENU BEFORE I SIT DOWN OR AFTER I SIT DOWN?

>> HOW LONG SHOULD IT TAKE TO GET MY SERVER TO APPEAR? HOW LONG THOSE TYPES OF STANDARDS. SO SHE HELPS DEFINE WHAT IS A QUALITY EXPERIENCE.

ONCE THAT DEFINITION HAS BEEN SET THEN IT'S A WIN WIN FOR OUR STUDENTS.

OUR STUDENTS GO OUT AND THEY GET TO EVALUATE ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND THEN MAKE A REPORT BACK THAT SAYS YOU DID A GREAT JOB PROVIDING QUALITY EXPERIENCE OR HERE SOME AREAS

YOU CAN WORK ON. >> SO OUR STUDENTS ARE LEARNING AND WE'RE BENEFITING THE PARTNERS AND WE'RE ENSURING THAT ALL GUESTS COMING TO HILTON HEAD HAVE THAT QUALITY EXPERIENCE AND AGAIN GOOD GOLLY ,WAS THAT ME YOU'RE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW? THAT'S OKAY. ONE MORE BATTLE BEGIN. SO AGAIN WE CONTINUED TO DO A LOT OF REPORTS 20 21 WAS DOWN THIS YEAR WE'RE ALREADY AT FORTY FIVE AND THEN PRESENTATIONS PRESENTATIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE INTERACTION AND THE CONVERSATION LIKE TODAY MORE THAN A PRESENTATION BUT A CONVERSATION.

AND AGAIN JUST A TIMELINE WE CAN GO IT'S NOT WORKING AT ALL. THERE YOU GO.

VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT. >> SO AGAIN, OUR STUDENTS ARE OUT AT ALL THE COMMUNITY FESTIVALS AND SAID THEY ARE OUT THERE GIVING OF THEIR TIME. WE CAN GO FORWARD.

JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A LEARNING EXPERIENCE, EVENT MANAGEMENT AND HOW TO PUT ON A COMMUNITY EVENT AND THEN ALSO THEY BRING ENERGY, THEY BRING EXCITEMENT,

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AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME MORE EVENTS PICKING BACK UP IN THE FALL AS WELL.

AND I KNOW FRANK VALUED HIS VOLUNTEER HOURS AS WELL AS DO WE.

WE USE INDEPENDENT SECTOR DOT ORG AND IF YOU'LL SEE THEIR GO WE'VE RAISED OVER COMMITTED OVER TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY NINE THOUSAND IN VOLUNTEER HOURS AND AGAIN VALUED THROUGH INDEPENDENT SECTOR OREGON OVER 12000 HOURS COMMITTED BY OUR STUDENTS.

>> WE CONTINUE TO ONE OF OUR THIRD ARM UNDER THE STATUTE IS EVENT INCUBATION AGAIN CHALLENGING. AND KEVIN , WE JUST MET WITH THE TOWN LAST WEEK AND WE HAVE A COUPLE NEW OPPORTUNITIES GOING FORWARD THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO START WORKING ON.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE COMING BACK. A COUPLE SUCCESSES WE HAD OF COURSE SANDBOX AT THE STABLES BURGERS, BACON AND BARBECUE AND WE ALSO WORKED ON THE 350 30 AND THE LAST PROGRAM THAT WE'RE OFFERING IS FINNEGAN SHARING SHACK WHICH IS THE FANTASTIC IDEA OF OUR STUDENT BETHANY MCDONALD AND SHE TOOK THIS ON AS HER INTERNSHIP AND MADE IT HAPPEN. AND SHE WAS OUT THERE EVERY WEEKEND WE FINALLY GOT OPENED IN JULY. SHE RECYCLED OVER SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ONE BEACH ITEMS PULLED THAT OFF THE BEACH PACK PLAY TENNIS MASSAGE CHAIRS. I MEAN IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

AND WHAT SHE DID BESIDES THAT SHE HAS JUST SOME AMAZING STORIES ABOUT HELPING AND BEING A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE OF HILTON HEAD AS THEY GO TO THE BEACH BEING THAT RESOURCE AND SHARING WHAT AN AMAZING PLACE WE ARE. AND SHE'S BACK.

SO WE JUST OR GOT COMMITTED FOR THIS YEAR AS WELL. AND SO SHE'LL BE BACK OUT THERE ALL SUMMER. SHE'S STARTING IN MAY AND WE WILL BE STAFFING THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE MARRIOTT AND GRAND OCEAN AND TRYING TO GET THIS PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THEIR FACILITIES AS WELL. SO EXPANDING THE PROGRAM THAT THE TOWN HELPED START. SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING. WE HAD CLEMSON UNIVERSITY COME IN AND EVALUATE OUR ISLAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM WHICH WAS THE STRONGEST PROGRAM AT THE TIME AND JUST ACCOLADES TO US THAT WE WERE DOING. HAD PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS THAT WE HAD THE COMMITMENT THAT WE HAD THE COMMITMENT OF THE TOWN AND THAT WE WERE DOING SUCH AN AMAZING JOB WITH THAT PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE THEM COMING BACK AGAIN.

WE THINK IT'S TIME TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE SOURCE COME BACK AND DO AN EVALUATION AND SO THEY'LL BE STARTING THAT EVALUATION. IT'LL BE STARTING THIS SPRING AND CONTINUING INTO THE FALL.

>> THANKS. AND NEXT ONE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ONE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S JUST A BIT UNFAIR BUDGET CALCULATION AND ACTUALLY GO TO THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE THAT'LL PROBABLY SHORTEN THIS

UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. >> PERFECT. SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD SAID THE FIRST ONE WAS ABOUT OUR CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE WITH OUR BUDGET IS IT'S EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT PUT INTO ONE. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING WITH THAT CURRENTLY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE NINETY SEVEN THOUSAND THAT PAYS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS.

SO WE HAVE DR. CALVERT, WE HAVE PROFESSOR GIBSON, WE HAVE DR. STEVE VIRGINIE WHO'S A MARINE BIOLOGIST ALL WORKING WITHIN THAT PROGRAM THAT COVERS ALL OF THEIR FEES THE QUALITY MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE THAT COVERS THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROGRAM.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR CONTINUING ED AT UCB AND THEY DO ALL OF OUR EVALUATIONS, KEEP ALL OF OUR STATISTICS WHEN I TELL YOU HOW MANY WE HAVE FROM UCB AND ALL OF THAT THEY ARE MANAGING ALL OF THAT AND THEY'RE GIVING US ALL THE FEEDBACK WE WANT SOMEONE BESIDES MY CENTER OR OUR CENTER I SHOULD SAY TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE EVALUATIONS AND HAVE THAT OBJECTIVE SOURCE. AND SO THEY'RE DOING ALL OF THAT FOR US.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE ADDED FINNEGAN SHARING SHACK AND SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE STAFFING OF THAT AS WELL. SO WITHIN THAT 90 7000 WE'RE GETTING ALL OF THAT PROGRAMING WITHIN THEIR WITH CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE HAVE DATA IRELAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM ALMOST EVERY TIME WE DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW SHOW THAT'S COMING TO THE ART CENTER COASTAL CAROLINA WHICH JUST LISTENING TO THE MITCHELL VILLE PRESENTATION AND I'M LEARNING SOME NEW EXCITING PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH MITCHELL BILL.

WE WILL ADD THAT TO OUR PROGRAM THAT WE'RE TEACHING ON FRIDAY. SO AS EVERYTHING CHANGES ON THE

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WE SET IT UP. NANCY DID A GREAT NEW VIDEO FOR THE SANDBOX READY TO GO WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE HAVE A NEW VIDEO THAT USCCB PROVIDED TO UPDATE OUR IRELAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND SO WE JUST HAVE THAT SUPPORT FROM OUR PARTNERS SENDING ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES PAYING THEIR EMPLOYEES AND PROFESSIONALS TO ATTEND ALL OF THE SUPPORT WITH THEIR PROGRAMING FROM USCCB. SO IT JUST CONTINUES TO BE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.

AND THEN THE LAST THING AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SWITCH TO MY LIST OF PARTNER WORDS IT'S OUT OF THE POWERPOINT. THERE WE GO. AND SO THE LAST QUESTION I HAD

WAS JUST ABOUT OUR PARTNERS AND SO I BROKE IT DOWN. >> SO THE ISLAND INVESTOR PARTNERS THAT LIST THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE GROUPS THAT WE HAVE EDUCATED.

SO YOU'LL GO THROUGH AND SEE A LIST OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE REALLY PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE EDUCATED. AND SO YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT PAGE.

GREAT. AND OF COURSE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.

AND THEY'VE MADE A GREAT COMMITMENT AS WELL. WE DID.

WE MADE SURE THAT THE BEACH AMBASSADORS THAT CAME LAST YEAR, THEY COMMITTED TO HAVING THEM BE ISLAND AMBASSADORS. SO THAT WAS WONDERFUL FOR THE VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT PARTNERS.

THESE ARE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH ALL OF OUR STUDENTS PROVIDING VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT.

SO THOSE ARE THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE WITH THAT GROUP. AND THEN LAST WE HAVE OUR QUALITY MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE. SO WITH OUR SECRET SHOPPING PROGRAM, THESE ARE THAT AGAIN PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE GONE OUT SPENT SENT OUR STUDENTS OUT TO DO THAT EVALUATION FOR THEM. AND THEN THE LAST LIST THAT I HAVE IS SPENDING AND SHARING ZACH AND BETHANY REALLY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH SHORE BEACH SERVICES. SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH HILTON HEAD MARC ROB SINCE BEEN GREAT WITH HER TURTLE TRACKERS. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. KEEN ON CLEAN JUST REACHING OUT TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TO TRY AND MAKE SURE IT'S A COMMUNITY PROGRAM AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I TRIED FIVE MINUTES. >> CARRIE, I SEE YOUR APPLICATION FOR WHAT YOU DO TO THE THREE GUYS THAT WERE BEHIND YOU. OH YEAH.

AND THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY RUN. MM HMM. EXCELLENT PLAN.

YOUR ENTHUSIASM IS INFECTIOUS AND I'M SURE YOU KEEP THESE YOUNG PEOPLE MOTIVATED AND

MOVING FORWARD AND I SALUTE YOU FOR THAT. >> I DO AGREE THAT YOU NEED TO BE PARTNERING WITH OUR FRIEND AHMAD AND YOUR AMBASSADORS NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HIS PROGRAM AND THE WONDERFUL STORY THAT IS MITCHELL BILL SO THAT OUR AMBASSADORS CAN BE SHARING THAT WITH THOSE THAT THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH. SO.

AND WE HAVE SO MANY GOOD STORIES HERE. AND YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE I DON'T SEE A CONSISTENT ID IN THE PICTURES OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE MAYBE NOT A UNIFORM BUT AT LEAST A T-SHIRT AND THAT THEY WEAR EVERY TIME EXCEPT WHEN THEY'RE SECRET SHOPPERS MIGHT POSSIBLY.

BUT EVERY TIME THAT THEY ARE ENGAGED WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T.

OH, I CAN GO TALK TO THAT PERSON SORT OF APPROACH AND I SAW SOME T-SHIRTS BUT IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF VARIETY THERE AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.

I MENTIONED MITT MITCHELL BILL FINNEGAN'S IS A GREAT IDEA. AND SO I LOVE THAT.

AND BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ABANDONED THINGS THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND AND THE TOWN WINDS UP HAVING TO PICK THEM UP AND AND PUT THEM IN THE DUMP SOMEWHERE AND IF SAY INSTEAD THEY CAN BE REUSED. THAT'S WONDERFUL. FINALLY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM.

DO YOU HAVE A PLACEMENT SERVICE OR A PLACEMENT OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PUT THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE TO WORK IN HOSPITALITY SERVICES? AND IF SO, HOW MUCH OF THAT HAPPENED HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND? NO, I DON'T.

>> SO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH FROM USC, THEY ARE WORKING OUT IN THE HOSPITALITY FIELD. NOW I WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU KNOW WHAT OUR PLACEMENT IS FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF CAREER SERVICES JUST TO SEE WHERE OUR STUDENTS ENDED UP.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS ARE WORKING SO I'M JUST THERE. THEY'RE WORKING LOCALLY WHILE THEY'RE ATTENDING. SURE. AND SO EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE OUT IN YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT STAY LOCAL WHICH A MAJORITY DO THEN THEY ARE STILL WHILE THEY'RE CONTINUING THEIR EDUCATION AND EARNING THEIR DEGREE IN OUR WORKFORCE.

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>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEVELOP THOSE STATISTICS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT US TO SEE THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE INVESTING IS IN FACT COMING BACK TO OUR HOSPITALITY

INDUSTRY EVEN AFTER THESE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE GRADUATED. >> THANK YOU FOR A GREAT REPORT . AND WHY NOT JUST A QUICK COMMENT SO WE FEATURE MITCHELL WELL THAT IS SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH ISLAND CULTURE WE COMPLETELY FEATURE MITCHELL WELL AND UPDATE IT AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW AND BANDS. AND THAT IS JUST ONE OF ONE.

WE ALSO DO COAST DISCOVERY MUSEUM A LARGE SHOUT OUT SAID THAT'S GREAT.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENERGY. OUR GROUP GOLDSMITH STANFORD GOOD TO GOOD TO SEE THAT IN ACTION REAL LIFE THIS THIS PROGRAM WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE WROTE CODE TO SUPPORT IT. RIGHT. OK.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT AT THAT TIME WE HAD THE FORESIGHT TO SEE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REAL BIG EFFORT IN PROTECTING OUR BRAND. OKAY. WITH DOORS BEING CLOSED EARLIER THAN OPERATING WAS LACK OF STAFF. WE WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT THOSE THAT WE DO HAVE WORKING AND WE'RE PUTTING IN FRONT OF ABOUT 3 MILLION VISITORS.

YES. ALL THE BEST OF THE BEST. RIGHT.

SO THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE BROUGHT BEFORE US WAS THREE HUNDRED STUDENTS CAME THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. IS THAT THE HILTON HIGH SCHOOL

OR ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS ON HILTON HEAD? >> THAT'S JUST HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL. OK, I JUST RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE WE OFFERED IT TO HILTON HEAD PREP AT CHRISTIAN ACADEMY HAS MOVE OFF ISLAND BUT A LOT OF THE STUDENTS STILL LIVE ON HILTON HEAD AND THOSE WHO WOULD BE PROVIDING SOME SUMMER HOURS FOR US DURING THE SEASON.

SO EXPANDING IT I THINK IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT. THE REASON I'M SO FOCUSED ON THE STUDENTS IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THE HOTELS AND BIG ORGANIZATIONS THEY'RE BRINGING IN INTERNATIONAL WORK AS YOU CAN YOU KNOW, GET THEM TOGETHER AND TAKE THEM THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM ALL AT ONCE MORE THE MOM AND POP SHOPS DON'T HAVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY.

SO THE EARLIER WE CATCH THEM THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE. AND AS FAR BEING BETTER AT WHAT THEY DO. AND THE LAST THING I OFFER AS FAR AS YOUNG FOLKS ARE CONCERNED I STRUGGLE WITH THIS AT MY BUSINESS. THEY ARE SO CONNECTED TO SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH HANDHELD DEVICES TO WHERE THEY SOMETIMES FORGET THAT SERVICE AND PEOPLE BECAUSE THE CONNECTION TO THAT. OK. WE HAD BEEN CONSIDERED STRATEGIES WHERE WE USED THEIR PERSONAL DEVICES TO HELP WITH THE EXPERIENCE NOT QUITE THERE YET BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE WAS A GENERATION THAT WOULD PERFORM JUST LIKE YOU WHEN WE INTERACT WITH PEOPLE AND THAT IS STEADILY GOING AWAY WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS AND HOW WE HOW WE BALANCE THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO OUR QUALITY OF SERVICE AND OUR BRAND. ON HILTON HEAD SO JUST TO FOCUS ON THE YOUTH AS THEY GET INTO THIS HOSPITALITY SERVICE IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOUR ENTHUSIASM IS CONTAGIOUS.

REALLY ENJOY THAT. AND I THINK THE CLEMSON UNIVERSITY REPORT REALLY SAYS IT ALL. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND HAVING A THIRD PARTY REMOVED FROM YOU. COME IN. GIVE AN OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS.

IT REALLY SPEAKS I THINK VOLUMES TO THE QUALITY OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AGAIN, TO RESTATE THE APPLICATION REQUEST IT IS FOR ONE HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND NINETY FOUR WHICH IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF PROGRAM EXPENSES AND IT'S BY FORMULA 5 PERCENT OF LOCAL ATX AND THIS IS ANTICIPATED AT 2 PERCENT OVER THE LAST YEAR. THANK YOU CARL.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. >> I WILL TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA ISSUE AFFILIATED AGENCY BUDGET REQUESTS MAY WHEN YOU SAY THE TOWN HILTON HAD A TAX FUNDS IN THE MILLIONS OVER THE YEARS IT MEANS THAT BMO HILTON HAD CHAMBER THAT IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. LENNOX?

>> THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TOURISM TECHNOLOGY, LOCAL SEARCH,

FACEBOOK ETC.. >> YOU'VE GOT TO COME TO THAT REALITY.

YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP ON HAND. AND BILL MILES IN THIS CHAMBER MILLIONS WITH NOTHING WOULD NO

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THIS IS CRAZY STUFF. AGAIN, THE CHAMBER'S LEGAL. EVERYONE WHO RECEIVES TAX MONEY MUST BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY TO AID TAX LAWS TO FROYO TO SOUTH CAROLINA, A NONPROFIT CORPORATION TAX CLAUSE AND THE LEGAL USE OF THESE TAX BONDS IF YOU KEEP ON HANDING WITH NOTHING NO ACCOUNTING, NO TRANSPARENCY, NO OVERSIGHT, NO NOTHING.

>> IT'S JUST INSANITY. EVERYONE THAT GETS TAX MONEY I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE.

NOT ONLY HAS TO BE LEGAL BUT THEY MUST PROVIDE DETAILED ACCOUNTING ON EVERY PENNY NOT EVERY DOLLAR, EVERY PENNY ON TAX FUNDS, RECEIPTS AND MATCHING INVOICES AND AT THE END PROVEN RETURNS TO TAXPAYERS. THIS IS YOUR JOB.

THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL WERE ELECTED FOR. THIS IS YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISE AND YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WHAT YOU'RE GAINING FROM NOT BEING TRANSPARENT AND FIGHTING FOR TRANSPARENCY AND FIGHTING FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR TAX FUNDS LIKE YOU FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN FAMILY AND YOUR OWN MONEY.

I DON'T GET IT. SO FINALLY, WHICH IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND I'M HAPPY TO WAIT TO PUT MY COMMENT ON GREEN PHINNEY WHICH I'D LIKE TO COMMENT.

SO ONE I SIT DOWN AND YOU FINISH THAT PRESENTATION AND I'D LIKE TO BE CALLED ON TO COMMENT ON THE GREEN FINNY ACCOUNT OF AUDITING FARM. IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH? WHAT CAN WE DO THAT? SURE. THANK YOU.

OK. >> BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WE HAVE HEARD FROM REPRESENTATIVE OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT AUTHORED A GRANT REQUEST TO THE TOWN. OUR PROCESS IS TO DETERMINE THE FUNDING AMOUNT EITHER FOR FUNDING, PARTIAL FUNDING OR NO FUNDING AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THEN TO FOOL TOWN COUNCIL TOWN COUNCIL THEM WHEN CONSIDER OR RECOMMENDATION AND INCORPORATE THAT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

SO WE CAN DO THIS ONE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS THAT YOU HEARD PRESENTED THIS MORNING OR WE CAN DO IT IN MASS AND TAKE ALL APPLICATIONS COLLECTIVELY BUILT MR CHAIR. I WOULD RECOMMEND A POSITIVE VOTE FOR ALL THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE APPEARED BEFORE US TODAY AS PRESENTED AS PRESENTED ? YES SIR. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMITTEE ALEX? A COUPLE BASED ON ONE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE. AS FAR AS ADOPTING PROCESS AND APPLICATION MUSCLE JUST TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH OUR PARTNERS AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC FUNDING IS CONCERNED THIS HAS BEEN GREAT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A COUPLE HOURS HERE BUT WELL WORTH THE TIME. ALL RIGHT. I WILL SAY THAT AND I SUPPORT GOING IN THAT DIRECTION ALSO AS LONG AS WE MAKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE TO WHAT IL RTA WAS REQUESTING. I THINK IT WAS NO MOMENT AT TWO EIGHTY THREE SEVENTY EIGHT BUT TWENTY TWO FOR FOUR WAS THE NEW NUMBER. YES YES THAT'S CORRECT AND I WILL ADD A COMMENT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE FINANCIAL REPORTING SIDE OF THE

APPLICATION. >> I WOULD ASK THAT E EACH APPLICANT INCLUDE THEIR MOST RECENT AUDIT IN THIS CASE. MOST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A FISCAL YEAR JUNE 30 ENDING IT WOULD BE JUNE 30, 2021. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL THE QUESTION? PERSON WE CALL THE ROLL PLEASE MR. BROWN SUPPORT THE MOTION, MR. HURRICANE.

>> YES, MR. STANFORD OR THE MOTION? MR. LENNOX.

YES. MOTION CARRIES, SIR. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU EVERYONE. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH ALEX MORE .

I THINK THE DESIGNED APPLICATIONS SERVED A PURPOSE THAT GAVE US ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE WANTED AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT WAS PUT INTO PREPARING AND

[7b. Consideration of a Resolution Designating Greene Finney, LLP as the Independent Auditors for the Town of Hilton Head Island, South Carolina for the Fiscal Year Ending June 30, 2022]

THREE HOURS HERE. >> I KNOW I JOHN. WITH YOUR PERMISSION I'M GOING

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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JOHN SHAW, YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AGAIN.

2017 WE BID AUDIT SERVICES. WE GOT PROPOSALS FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FIRMS THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS GREEN VINNIE WAS SELECTED. THEY OFFERED FOUR YEARS WITH AN OPTION FOR FIVE. THAT'S WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE IS JUST TO EXECUTE THE OPTION FOR FIVE WE ARE PRESENTING OR PREPARING AN RFP CURRENTLY FOR AN AUDIT SERVICES FOR TWENTY TWENTY THREE AND FORWARD BUT WHAT THIS IS IS A RECOMMENDER FOR THE AUDIT SERVICES AT

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OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS I CAN DO OUR FINANCIAL REPORT IN JUST A FEW WORDS IS WE HAD ANOTHER GOOD MONTH IN FEBRUARY. THANK YOU MR. OKATIE FRIENDS

CONCERN. >> NO, NO, NO. WE APPRECIATE WE'RE NINETY FIVE PERCENT ALMOST NINETY FIVE PERCENT COLLECTED ON OUR PROPERTY TAXES AND SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS . WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. BUT IT ALSO LIMITS OUR UPSIDE ON WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. BUT CERTAINLY POSITIVE A GOOD WAY TO LOOK INTO 2023. AND SO I THINK WE CAN TURN OUR ATTENTION TOWARD TWENTY TWENTY THREE PRIORITIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC. I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPECT THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT, MR.

ATLANTIC. >> YOUR PAST BANK OWNER THAT. THAT'S CORRECT.

HOW DOES GREEN FINNY IDENTIFY ANY CRIMES WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WASTE, FRAUD, CHEATING,

EMBEZZLEMENT OF TAX FUNDS WITH NO FORENSIC AUDIT? >> HOW DO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT JOHN TROYER, ORLANDO GRUBER WHO'S ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED OF THREE ETHICS VIOLATIONS? I CAN'T BELIEVE TWO. ONE. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? ONE THREE. HE'S CONVICTED AND I WHY HE'S STILL EMPLOYED AND WHY HE DOES WHAT HE DOES. BUT ANYWAY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU'VE SEEN NOTHING.

NONE OF YOU ALL SAY NOTHING. YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.

YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS INTERNALLY. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NONE OF YOU. JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SAID YOU WENT TO THE CHAMBER OFFICES, MR. LENNOX AND SAW THE ACCOUNTING WITH THE CHAMBER, YOU'VE SEEN NOTHING YOU HAVE SEEN NOTHING OF WERE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE GOING YOU'VE NEVER SEEN RECEIPT YOU'VE NEVER SEEN MATCHING INVOICES, YOU'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING BUT YET YOU SIT UP THERE. BUT I GUARANTEE YOU AS A BANKER, YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR FINANCES. YOU KNOW WHERE EVERY DOLLAR IS AND THAT'S AT I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT BEING A BANK OWNER YOU'RE A NUMBERS GUY. I'M A NUMBERS GUY AND WE BOTH KNOW NUMBERS DON'T LIE. PEOPLE LIE AND YOU NEED TO START BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE.

YOU COULD CORRECT YOUR WRONGS AND YOU COULD STAND UP AND YOU COULD MAKE THIS ISLAND PROUD OF YOU. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR FAMILY PROUD OF YOU.

YOU CAN STAND UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, SKIP HOAGLAND IS RIGHT. I HATE TO ADMIT IT.

THE GUY'S RIGHT. I DON'T LIKE THE GUY BUT THE GUY'S RIGHT AND WE'RE GOING TO DEMAND TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO PERFORMANCE METRICS AND WE'RE GOING TO DEMAND THAT WE SEE AND PEOPLE PROVE A RETURN TO OUR TAX

BONDS, THE WASTE AND THE THEFT . >> IT'S GOT TO STOP.

HOW CAN YOU ALL KEEP ON JUST SITTING THERE DAY AFTER DAY RUBBER STAMPING, RUBBER STAMPING AND YOU'VE SEEN AND KNOW NOTHING ZERO. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST IT'S EMBARRASSING. IT'S EMBARRASSING. PLEASE.

LET'S DO THAT. WE HAVE YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT COUNTRY THAT WE ALLOW SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT ARE NOT ONLY IN ACCURATE, THEY ARE UNINFORMED AND UNDER INFORMED.

IT'S A WONDERFUL COUNTRY THAT WE CAN ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO OCCUR.

>> EXACTLY. I AGREE. I AGREE 100 PERCENT.

THANK GOD WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT RESPECTS THE FIRST AMENDMENT FREE SPEECH AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT. WITHOUT THOSE WERE OUR COUNTRY'S LAWS.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS, MR. LENNOX, SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT GENERAL STATEMENT.

>> CAN YOU RIGHT NOW TODAY IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY HERE WHICH IS NOT MANY CAN YOU PROVE WHAT I'M SAYING ABOUT THE TAX FUNDS, THE ILLEGAL USE AND EVERYTHING ? CAN YOU DENY AND DEBATE THAT? AND IF YOU PROVE ME WRONG, AS OUTRAGEOUS AS WHAT I'M GETTING READY TO SAY IS AND I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR FIVE YEARS I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A ONE MILLION DOLLAR CHECK SAID TO ANYBODY TO YOUR FAVORITE DONATION TO PROVE ME WRONG.

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AND THAT'S A FACT. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL OR NERVE

TO DO THAT. >> LET'S DON'T CHALLENGE THAT. BUT AS ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS THAT I DO THAT I HAVE THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME. BUT LET'S.

BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. ANSWER THE QUESTION. HAVE YOU CAN YOU SAY ONE THING

TO EVERYBODY TODAY THAT I HAVE SAID THAT IS NOT ACCURATE? >> HAS SUPPORTING EVIDENCE THAT THE HILTON THE BLUFFTON CHAMBER AND BILL MILES THAT YOU'RE ILLEGAL ISSUING AND HE'S ILLEGALLY USING OUR TAX MONEY? DO YOU WANT TO. CAN YOU DEBATE THAT WITH ME PUBLICLY? I CAN'T. OK.

GO AHEAD. LET'S HEAR SIT DOWN YOUR TIME. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE. MR. LENNOX, YOU'RE THAT THAT'S HOW YOU ARE AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS WHO YOU ARE. YOU MAKE STATEMENTS BUT YOU

CAN'T BACK THEM UP. >> PUT THE MONEY INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT.

LET'S TRIAL BY AN INDEPENDENT MEDIA IS ALL ABOUT MONEY FOR YOU.

LET'S DON'T TALK ABOUT MONEY. LOOK, HOWARD TELL. I'LL DONATE THAT MILLION TO THE FOUNDATION YOU IN YOUR NAME. LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE MONEY. TELL ME WHAT I'VE SAID IS WRONG. LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE MONEY. NOW TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG.

TIME IS OF COURSE. OF COURSE NOT. YOU CAN'T DO IT.

YOU'RE JUST SIDEWAYS, YOU KNOW, JUST AS BAD AS IT GETS MOVE FOR ADJOURNMENT.

NO, NO. WE'VE GOT A VOTE. WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION TO IN FLY IN FINNEY FOR ANOTHER YEAR. IS THIS OUR MOTION TO DO THAT?

>> MOVED. SO I GOT. IS THERE A SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CALL QUESTION PRESSED. MR. BROWN SUPPORT MR. HARKIN? YES, MR. STANFORD? YES. MR. LENNOX.

YES. MOTION CARRIES, SIR. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? >> WE STAND ADJOURNED.

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