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GO TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN GLOBE LITERALLY REPEATED
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INJUSTICES ZERO NAMELY BUSY DEAD THE REPUBLIC KNOW WHEN THIS MEETING WAS PUBLISHED AND AND THEN DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOFTWARE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT WE[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
CAN CONFIRM THAT WAS WITH MISS STEPHANIE. >> I WOULD LIKE THE MOTION TO HAVE THE AGENDA PLEASE. SO MOVE OUR GERMAN CITY THAT THIS MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN RODMAN AND SECONDLY BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER. WITHOUT OBJECTION THE AGENDA IS APPROVED OH UP. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM
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FEBRUARY 7 WHICH WERE IN OUR PACKET ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND THOSE SO WE BE ABLE TO GET SECOND, OK? COUNCILMAN RODMAN MADE THE MOTION SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE WITHOUT OBJECTION THAT IS PASSED BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO CITIZENS COMMENT.>> SO I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW WHO IS HERE. PERSON ACCOUNTS FROM LOSS OF ACCOUNTS CUNNINGHAM COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE HOUSE FROM RODMAN MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN GLOVER AND THEN ON LINE WE HAVE COUNCILMAN DAWSON AND THE COUNTS AND CHAIRMAN
PARKS. >> MY MEMBER BEGAN OH SEE? OK.
[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING WILL LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO NO LONGER THAN THREE (3) MINUTES (A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES) AND WILL ADDRESS COUNCIL IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER APPROPRIATE TO THE DECORUM OF THE MEETING, REFRAINING FROM THE USE OF PROFANE, ABUSIVE, OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE)]
THANK YOU. I DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE. OKAY.MY MEADOW. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO ENTERTAIN CITIZENS COMMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THE GROUND RULES ABOUT IT THAT YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND WE ARE ONLY GOING TO HAVE A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS AFTERNOON THE COMMONER WILL ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER APPROPRIATE TO THE DECORUM OF THE MEETING, REFRAINING FROM THE USE OF PROFANE, ABUSIVE OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE. WE DID HAVE A LARGE PORTION OF E-MAILS CONCERNING MY OWN LIFE WHICH WERE SENT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AFTER THE MEETING AND I'M NOT SURE OF THE TOTAL BUT IT WAS AT LEAST 15 OR 20 AND A 15.
I THINK EVERYONE RECEIVE US AND I HOPE EVERYONE READ THEM. THE ONLY PERSON WE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY IS HAROLD WILLIAMS AND HE IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT MY BILL THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD. YES, SIR.
AND IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME WHERE YOU LIVE YOUR ADDRESS THAT BEFORE YOU START.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MY NAME IS HAROLD WILLIAMS. 274 MAY ONE BLOOD DRIVE. WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING ONE OF THE FIRST HOMEOWNERS IN THE PULTE MAINLAND BLUFF COMMUNITY CHURCH FALLING APART BEFORE WE DECIDED TO PURCHASE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. WE WERE WELL AWARE OF THE FACTS AT THE FRONT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M 170 WHERE WE DEVELOPED THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. HER ZONING APPROVAL OF JUST TWO YEARS AGO IN FACT OUR HOMES CAME WITH AN OPTION OF A GOLF CART PARKING IN OUR GARAGE SO WE COULD DRIVE OUR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES TO THE LOCAL SHOPS WITHOUT LEAVING OUR COMPOUND
ROUTE 70. >> AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS BUSY HIGHWAY WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT FOLLOWS MUCH EARLIER IN THE MONTH.
SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL PARENTS NOTIFYING IT WAS SERIOUS BUSSING AFTERNOON DELAY DUE TO AN ACCIDENT ON ROUTE 95 S RESULTED IN ALL LANES BEING CLOSED ON NINETY FIVE AND ALL THE TRAFFIC WAS LET ON ONTO 170 WHICH IMAGINED CAUSING MASSIVE DELAYS. WE FEEL THAT HOUSING ON THIS PROPERTY IS NOT DUE TO SOCIAL CONSCIOUS BUT RATHER THAT MAXIMIZE THE VALUE PROPERTY. WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING BUT NOT ON THIS POSTAGE STAMP PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I ASKED THE BOARD TO EXAMINE ALL THE FACTS AND DENY THE CHANGES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. AND GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.
THANK YOU. YOU WILL LOVE IT AND SIGN UP. IT WISHES TO MAKE AN ROMANCE
WITH ANYONE ELSE. >> YEAH HERE GRAMPS GRASS. OH, ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD, MR. KRAFT. >> COME ON. GRAM'S GRASS RAISED DIFFERED ON
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HOW WE VIEW ONE SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY USER. I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROCESS CONCERNING BRIDESMAIDS WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HEARINGS.IT APPEARS TO ME THAT POTENTIALLY THE COUNTY COUNCIL FOUNDING STAFF HAD BEEN CO-OPTED BY A VOCAL MINORITY OF TRANSPLANT ELITES OR BENT ON PROHIBITING LAWFUL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE ISLAND ROUGHLY. THIS GROUP OF ELITES GO UNDER THE NAME OF THE SEATTLE MURDER COALITION AND IS LED BY A TRANSPLANTED HIMSELF WHO IS A PART TIME REAL ESTATE BROKER ON A TOP SELLING REAL ESTATE TO LIKE MINDED.
THESE ELITES DESCEND ON BEAUFORT AND LIVE IN COMMUNITIES SOME GATED AND THE WEALTHY SUCH AS DOTTORE CLOG ROADS, EXHAUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN BLAME
OTHER PEOPLE FOR THE PROBLEMS THEY THEMSELVES HAVE CREATED . >> THEY ARE WELL-ORGANIZED AND
KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GOVERNMENT. >> THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM . THEY ARE ALSO AT THE FOREFRONT OF TELLING EVERYONE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO. THEY HAVE PLENTY OF TIME AND MONEY TO ATTEND COUNTY COUNCIL AND OTHER MEETINGS. THE GOAL GIVING THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE THE MINORITY. THIS IS IN STARK CONTRAST THROUGH MAJORITY INCLUDE THE FAMILIES LIVING IN TRAILERS AND MODEST HOMES RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DELACORTE GATE HOUSE WHICH IS THERE TO PROTECT THE ELITE WAY OF LIFE.
>> THESE FAMILIES THAT COMPRISE THE MAJORITY HAVE NO ACCESS TO REAL OFF VS. WALKING PATHS ON ISLAND CAFĆS. THESE ELITES ENJOY COFFEE AND PASTRIES, STRATEGIZE HOW THEY CAN STOP DEVELOPMENT ALONG THEIR RIDE INTO TOWN. THE TRUE MAJORITY ARE LEFT TO FREQUENT THE PUBLIC COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT THESE ELITES ARE TRYING TO BAN.
>> FURTHERMORE, THESE ARE A SILENT MAJORITY FOR WORK. THEY CAN'T MAKE MEETINGS AT 3
O'CLOCK OR 5 BLOCK IN THE COUNTY. >> THESE ELITES MOST RECENTLY HAVE HAD BEEN FOCUSED ON MY DRIVE THRU PROJECT WHICH ITSELF OBJECTIVELY MAKES ALL THE COUNTY COUNT ZONING LAWS IN SPECIAL USE REFORM WRITTEN IN THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LADIES I THE COUNTY'S OWN PLANNING GROUP CONFIRMED THIS COMPLIANCE TO DOWNEY'S CBO A FORTNIGHT PRIOR TO TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN THE GREENWAY AND ROB MARCIANO CURRENTLY UNETHICALLY
IS NOT A LAWFUL CHANGE. >> THEIR POSITION BASED ON POLITICAL PRESSURE FROM COUNTY COUNCIL AND MET MINIMUM PUBLIC NOW SEES THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND ITS STAFF CAN'T BE TRUSTED.
THE COURT WILL DECIDE THE OUTCOME FOR MY PROJECT AS I WILL APPEAL THE CBO LANES SEE BASIC ECONOMIC CONCEPTS JUST REAL LEADS. PROPOSE PROPOSAL IS FOR A
BETTER SOLUTION, SAYS MR. INCREASED ELEMENT BUT ON TIME. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING AND CAN MOVE IF YOU WANT TO FINISH YOUR SENTENCE.
GO AHEAD. >> I ALSO REPRESENT MY COMPANIES AND I'D LIKE ANOTHER
THREE MINUTES. >> NO SOURCE ONE IS THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
NOT NOT AN ENTITY. NO, SIR. NO SIR.
I SEE, SIR. DO YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK?
>> IT'S JUST THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT. I SEE THEY'RE SHUTTING UP
DEBATE AGAIN. >> OK. PAULA, I'LL SUBMIT THIS TO THE
TWO MINUTES. >> OK. >> THANK YOU.
WHEN WE ALL HAVE IT IN THE MINUTES TO THANK YOU FOR DID ANYONE ELSE SIGN UP ONLINE? WHO'S BROUGHT MR. DAVID? NO, NO, NO. JUST BECAUSE A PART OF THE
REASON THAT OK. THANK YOU. >> SO THERE'S NO OTHER CITIZEN
[7. RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION PROGRAM 2021 ANNUAL REPORT]
COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA IS THE RULING CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION PROGRAM 20 21 ANNUAL REPORT PRESENTATION BY MISS SCHAEFER. ALL RIGHT.
>> GET OUT FOR EVERYONE. I DO HAVE HANDOUTS, HARD COPIES OF THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR YOU.
AND WE WILL LEAVE THE REST HERE AT THE COUNTY'S HI KATE SCHAEFER WITH OPEN LAND TRUST CONSULTING FOR THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM AND PROUD TO BE ON THE CONTRACT TEAM TO HELP MANAGE AND EXECUTE THIS PROGRAM. AND I WILL SPEND MY TIME EFFICIENTLY BUT IT IS CAUSE FOR GREAT CELEBRATION TO LOOK BACK ON THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF 2021
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AND WHAT YOU AND YOUR COUNCIL AND YOUR COUNTY TEAM AS WELL AS THE LANDOWNERS AND COUNTY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO FOR OUR SHARED PUBLIC BENEFIT. SO BEFORE YOU SEE THE 20 21 ANNUAL REPORT, THE MAP ON THE FIRST PAGE HIGHLIGHTS THE THREE PROTECTED PROPERTIES FROM THIS PAST YEAR. AND I WANT TO TAKE JUST A FEW MINUTES ON EACH PROPERTY AND THEN THINK FORWARD FOR THE WORK THAT LIES AHEAD. SO HENRY FARM NORTH IS 88 ACRES ON ST. HELENA ISLAND. YOU ALL APPROVED THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY IN OCTOBER AND THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA CONSERVATION BANK IN THE OPEN LAND TRUST AS AN ENTITY. THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY OWNERS AND MANAGES THIS PROPERTY UNDER THE REGULATION AND GUIDELINES OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WITH OUR WHICH ARE WRITTEN WITH COMMUNITY AGRICULTURE IN MIND.SO THIS PROPERTY WILL MOVING FORWARD WILL BE KNOWN AS THE ST. HELENA COMMUNITY FARM AND THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY IS TAKING A VERY PROACTIVE LISTENING EAR TO THINKING ABOUT WHAT TYPE ACTIVITIES NEED TO OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE EASEMENT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE ST. HELENA COMMUNITY AND ADDRESSING ISSUES LIKE LOCAL FARMING AND HEIRS PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. WITH SOME DEMONSTRATION SITES, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE LIKE. THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT REPRESENTED A PROPERTY THAT HIT THE OPEN REAL ESTATE MARKET AND IT DEMONSTRATES HOW A PROGRAM LIKE RURAL AND CRITICAL CAN ACT QUICKLY AND NIMBLY TO SAVE PROPERTY BEFORE IT IS TRANSITIONED TO SOME OTHER USE WITH FARMLAND IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF THAT PRIME SOIL IS LOST SAY TO THE FOUNDATION OF A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IT IS NO LONGER VALUABLE PRIME SOIL TO GROW PRODUCE. AND SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT BE A FARMER USING THAT PRIME SOIL, WE CERTAINLY BENEFIT FROM THE FOLKS THAT DO AND AND THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. THE SECOND PROPERTY WE REFER TO AS BERMUDA BLUFF BUT IT IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE BERMUDA LOFT DEVELOPMENT ON ST. HELENA IN THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM PROTECTED THIS PROPERTY WITH FEE OWNERSHIP BY B4 COUNTY.
IT'S 24 ACRES ON THE WATER. IT SURROUNDS AN EXISTING COUNTY OWNED FACILITY THAT'S ACTIVELY USED AS A FISHING SITE FOR RECREATIONAL OR KIND OF EVERYDAY WATER ACCESS.
>> AND THIS PROPERTY IS IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT ONE BECAUSE IT PROTECTED THE ROAD TO GET TO THIS EXISTING COUNTY FISHING SITE BUT ALSO THE LAND AROUND IT AND CAN BE DEVELOPED INTO A PASSIVE PARK FOR OTHER PUBLIC ENJOYMENT. THE MY FAVORITE ANECDOTE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS THAT WHEN WE NEEDED SURVEYED THE SURVEYOR WHO RESPONDED TO US WAS SO EAGER TO SEE THIS PROPERTY PROTECTED HE COMPLETED THE SURVEY TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. SO REALLY REMARKABLE PIECE THERE AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DRIVE OUT TO SEE THE VIEW OF THE POOR ROLL SOUND ENOUGH PARRIS ISLAND FROM THIS PORTION OF ST. HELENA AND THEN THE THIRD PROPERTY WAS THE THIRD LARGEST RURAL AND CRITICAL PROPERTY TO DATE AND THAT'S OAK POINT ALSO CALLED THE DALE PDR AT OVER 2000 ACRES.
AND THIS REPRESENTED A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE WITH THEIR READINESS AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PROGRAM.
AND THE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF THIS PROPERTY ARE IN ADDITION TO THE CONSTANT CONTINUITY AND CONNECTIVITY TO THE LARGER SPACE AND LAND CONSERVATION EFFORT AND THE INVESTMENT THAT RURAL AND CRITICAL HAS MADE TO DATE. ATTRIBUTES INCLUDE BENEFIT TO MARINE CORPS AIR STATION BEAUFORT AND I THINK WE SEE THAT EVERY DAY AND OUR LOCAL DEFENSE ECONOMY BUT ALSO IN TIMES OF CRITICAL NEED. AND WHEN ACCIDENTS OCCUR.
HAVING THAT PROTECTED AIRSPACE IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR PILOTS AND OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT PROPERTY TO A CLOSE AS WELL. WHEN THE LOCAL NEWS STATIONS SEND OUT A REPORTER TO MEET CHRIS O PART OF YOUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER DID A GREAT JOB SETTING UP A NEWS INTERVIEW AND WE MET OUT THERE NORTH OF THE SITE AND THE REPORTER I GUESS WAS TELLING HIS BOSS WHEN HIS BOSS ASKED WHAT'S THIS PROJECT ABOUT HIS AS WELL? I THINK IT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING AND CHECKS ALL THE BOXES ECONOMY, ENVIRONMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A GREAT TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. LAND PROTECTION OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
SO IN TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY ONE WE PROTECTED OVER TWENTY ONE HUNDRED ACRES.
THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL PROGRAM INVESTMENT UP TO OVER TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND ACRES.
IT'S ROUGHLY SPLIT BETWEEN FEE SYMBOL AND CONSERVATION EASEMENTS BUT AGAIN USING AN EXAMPLE OF THE ST. HELENA COMMUNITY FARM YOU KNOW EVEN IF YOU NEVER SET FOOT ON A PROTECTED PROPERTY WE'D BENEFIT FROM THE CLEAN WATER OF THE SCENIC GROWTH CORRIDORS AND THE AGRICULTURAL OR FORESTRY BENEFIT IT PROVIDES AND OUR PASSIVE PARKS PROGRAM WAS ALSO BUSY WITH SEVERAL PARKS OPENING INCLUDING WHICH IN POINT CORP. FREDERICK AND THE FORT FREMONT HISTORY CENTER AS WELL AS WORKING ON CONCEPTUAL PLANS AND STEPHANIE DOES A GREAT JOB REPORTING TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE SUCCESS PASS AND PARKS PROGRAM. BUT I DO HIGHLIGHT THAT HERE IN
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THE ANNUAL REPORT TO HIGHLIGHT THE INCREASED COORDINATION AND EFFICIENCY BETWEEN THE CONTRACTING ROLE AND THE COUNTY PLANNING STAFF. I THINK WE'VE REALLY SPENT THE BULK OF THE YEAR DEVELOPING SOME STRONG RAPPORT AND THAT HELPS FOR PROACTIVE PLANNING FOR NEW LAND CONSERVATION AS WELL. THE BOND REFERENDUM AND THE GREEN PRINT ARE OBVIOUSLY OUR GUIDING DOCUMENTS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT NEW LAND PROTECTION PROJECTS. THE GREEN PRINT HELPS INFUSE SOME SCIENCE INTO THE ART OF BRINGING THE LANDOWNER TO THE TABLE AND THE BOND REFERENDUM LANGUAGES.IT'S NOT REALLY STRONG LEGAL CONFINES TO WHERE WE CAN SPEND MONEY.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE NEXT DEADLINE FOR THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM IS MARCH 30 FIRST. APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED QUARTERLY.
THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE AND HAVING THAT QUARTERLY APPLICATION PROCESS PROVIDES A NICE CADENCE TO THE PROGRAM SO WE CAN WORK PROACTIVELY TO HIM TO PROTECT IMPORTANT PROPERTIES AND ENGAGE WITH LANDOWNERS AND THEN ALSO THEN RESPOND WHEN APPLICATIONS COME IN TO BRING THE BEST PROJECTS FORWARD TO YOU ALL. ANOTHER THING WE ARE DOING IN 2020 TO OUR SITE VISITS TO PREVIOUSLY PROTECTED PROPERTIES.
WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL SITE VISIT LAST WEEK TO THREE SISTERS FARM AND YOU PICK DAFFODILS IN BLUFFTON. IT WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS PROTECTED IN 2004 REPRESENTING OVER FOURTEEN HUNDRED EIGHT. IT'S A ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE ACRES PART OF FOURTEEN HUNDRED ACRES IN THE OKATIE CORRIDOR AND PROTECTING THAT PORTION OF THE OKATIE CORRIDOR WAS REALLY PROACTIVE AND VISIONARY. SO WE'RE REAPING THE BENEFITS OF THAT PROACTIVE THOUGHT AND AND I THINK THAT JUST RAISES THE BAR TO SAY WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN 2022 THAT PAYS THOSE DIVIDENDS 15 YEARS FROM NOW? IT'S A REMARKABLE CHALLENGE AND A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE IN BEFORE COUNTY TO TAKE OUR OWN TAXPAYER DOLLARS, USE THEM WISELY, LEVERAGE THEM WITH STATE AND FEDERAL RESOURCES AND REALLY CREATE THAT INVESTMENT FOR GENERATIONS DOWN THE ROAD. SO I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE DO. I HOPE YOU ALL ARE PROUD OF THE VOTES YOU TAKE ON RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROJECTS AND THE WORK THE PROGRAM HAS DONE COUNTY COUNTYWIDE.
I'D LOVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY ON 20, 21 OR HARRISON THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK
ON THE YEAR AHEAD. >> WHEN ROMAN. >> YEAH I SHOULD KNOW THAT.
WELL FIRST OF ALL IT'S PRETTY AMAZING WHEN WE THINK WE'RE COMING UP ON THE 200 MILLION MARK WHEN YOU FOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THE IMPACT HAS ON THE COUNTY.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. I'VE LOST TRACK OF IT. HOW MUCH MORE DO WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT APPROVAL AND THE RUN RATE? WHEN WOULD WE POTENTIALLY BE
GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS TO EXTEND IT? >> WELL, AS FAR AS POTENTIALLY GOING BACK FOR THE VOTES, I THINK PROBABLY ABOUT NINE. HEY, GRAY, THE VOTERS GET TO DECIDE THAT BUT WE HAVE FINANCIAL UPDATE COMING AT OUR MONTHLY MEETING THIS MONTH.
FROM OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT I BELIEVE THAT'S AROUND 15 MILLION 15 AND WE'LL HAVE THAT FULL UPDATE ON THURSDAY. SO JUST A REMINDER IF ANYONE EVER WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND MEETINGS THERE THE SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH TO THIRTY JUST QUESTION IS ME TO COME COMMON COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE VISIT OF THE THREE SISTERS? LOVELY 43 THREE WHO'S BEEN PRESERVED AND ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THEY DO ANNOUNCE THAT THEY MAY WANT TO SEE SOME
OF THE SITES THAT ARE BEING IN RESERVE AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU.
IT WAS WONDERFUL TO ATTEND SO MANY OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAD ME THERE.
COUNCILMAN GLOVER, I'M JUST REALLY TO SEE THE IMPACT OF OUR INVESTMENT AND ON THAT FRONT.
WE ARE EXPANDING OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR MARCH THAT OPENLY AND TRUST HAS REACHED OUT TO COASTAL EXPEDITIONS WHICH IS A OUTFITTER HERE IN NORTHERN B4 COUNTY THAT PROVIDES SERVICE AND THEN TOURS AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A BOAT TOWARD DOWN THE WINDY RIVER LATER IN MARCH TO CELEBRATE THE CONSERVATION IN THAT CORRIDOR.
OAK POINT BEING THE MOST RECENT PROJECT BUT OBVIOUSLY CHISHOLM AND YOU SAW AND OTHER PROJECTS IN THAT AREA THAT WILL BE MARCH 24TH FROM 3 TO 5 AND I'LL WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC NOTICE SO THAT IT ALL ELEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL ELEVEN BERLIN CRITICAL BOARD MEMBERS SHOW UP. WE ARE WE ARE GOOD BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE IN THIS ROOM OR LISTENING AND TO REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING AND I'LL BE SHARING MORE INFORMATION AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. THAT SITE VISITS ARE IMPORTANT . WE HAVE A LOT OF LANDOWNERS THAT ARE EAGER TO SHOW OFF THEIR PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE SINCE THE COUNTY INVESTED IN THEM ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING THEM TO STAY ON THEIR LAND. I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF MY TAKEAWAYS FROM THE THREE SISTERS CONVERSATION IS THAT PUTTING AN EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY ALLOWED THEM TO KEEP THE PROPERTY WHICH IS WHICH IS A GREAT GIFT TO INDIVIDUALS BUT ALSO TO THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE
THING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU AND MISS BLAKE IN LISTENING AND GETTING ALL THE HARD WORK IN THE LAND FERIAL DEEDS TOGETHER AND WORKING ON PRESERVING LAND AND WITH THE FILM. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM AND IF I'M DOING IT I THINK WELL THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
[8. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL TO TERMINATE AN EASEMENT AND EXECUTE AN EASEMENT ENCUMBERING A PORTION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY AND KNOWN AS FORDS SHELL RING]
IN THE NEXT ITEM IN A MOVIE PRESENTED BY MAYOR STEPHANIE GOOD.[00:20:06]
YO, IT'S NUMBER EIGHT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE WAS CRITICAL TO TERMINATE AN EASEMENT AND EXECUTE AN EASEMENT COVERING A PORTION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY COUNTY AND NONA'S SPORTS SHALL RING. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.COMMITTEE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FORD SHALE RING PARK WHICH IS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND ABOUT OVER 15 YEARS AGO NOW THE COUNTY AND TOWN CO PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES AND ENCOMPASSES A 4000 YEAR OLD NATIVE AMERICAN SHELL RING.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOMETHING LIKE AN OYSTER MIDDEN WHICH WOULD BE A MAINTENANCE OF OYSTER TRASH. ESSENTIALLY SHELL RINGS WERE CREATED BY NATIVE AMERICANS AS
SMALL WALLS OR BARRIERS AROUND LIVING AREAS OR COOKING AREAS. >> AND SO THIS SHELL RING ON THIS PROPERTY IS A ROUGH FIGURE EIGHT DESIGN AND HAS DATED BACK BY SOME ARCHAEOLOGY ARCHEOLOGICAL RESEARCHERS THAT HAVE GONE TO THE PROPERTY IS 4000 PLUS YEARS OLD.
>> SO IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL RESOURCE BECAUSE IT WAS PROTECTED FOR SO LONG IT HAS GROWN UP INTO A VERY NICE FOREST AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST FROM THE LOCAL ARCHEOLOGICAL SOCIETY THERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO SEE IF THEY CAN BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
>> THEY WOULD LOVE TO GO OUT THERE AND TAKE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND GIVE TOURS AND INTERPRETATION. THEY'VE SHOWN AN INTEREST IN CREATING INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY AND SO WITH THEIR INTEREST I APPROACH THE TOWN PLANNING STAFF TO COME UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY. I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN SOME TIME NOW BUT I BELIEVE I BROUGHT THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO NATURAL RESOURCES PROBABLY OVER A YEAR AGO AT THIS POINT AN AND WE HAVE NOW CREATED THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
>> THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO CREATE A LOW OR NO IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY AND WE HIRED CRANSTON ENGINEERING DOWN THERE IN BLUFFTON TO DO THIS PLAN AND THEY CAME UP WITH SOME VERY CREATIVE IDEAS TO WHERE WE ARE DOING ZERO DIGGING ON THE LAND.
EVERYTHING IS ABOVE GROUND SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN.
THE TOWN AT HILTON HEAD PERMITTING PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE PERMITTED THE PROJECT AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH BIDDING
AND CONSTRUCTION DURING THIS PLANNING EFFORT. >> IT BECAME KNOWN TO US THAT THERE WAS AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT FROM NINETEEN NINETY ONE BETWEEN THE PRIOR LAND OWNER AND AN ADJACENT LANDOWNER. THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS PROPERTY IS NOT ABLE TO BE ACCESSED FROM SQUIRE POPE ROAD EXCEPT THROUGH THE FORD SHALE RING PROPERTY.
SO THE 1991 EASEMENT SHOWED A 15 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT AS WELL AS A PORTION THE PROPERTY THAT COULD BE USED BY THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR FOR A SEPTIC TANK AND FIELD AND WHEN WE SAW THAT WE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A SEPTIC TANK AND FIELD BEING PUT ON A 4000 YEAR OLD ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE AND WE WORKED WITH THE TOWN AND THE ADJACENT LAND OWNER REGARDING WITH THEIR ZONING WAS ON THEIR PROPERTY WITH THEIR INTENT TO BUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY MIGHT BE AND HOW WE COULD ADJUST THE EASEMENT TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AS WELL
AS THE PROTECTION OF THE PROPERTY. >> SO THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. IT IS THE TERMINATION OF THAT 1991 EASEMENT AS WELL AS THE ENTRY INTO A NEW EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT STILL ALLOWS THEM ACCESS BUT IT DOES REMOVE THE SEPTIC FIELD AND THEIR ACCESS WILL NOW BE ON THE NEWLY ALIGNED PARK ROAD.
>> SO THE ROAD ITSELF THE DRIVE IDEAL FOR THE ROAD FROM SQUIRE POPE UP TO 100 AND 50 FEET IS ABOUT TWENTY TWO FEET WIDE I THINK 20 OR TWENTY FOUR FEET WIDE AND THEN IT NARROWS AFTER THAT TO BE PART OF THE TRAIL THAT'S EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE WILL ALSO BE WALKING ON AND THEN THAT'S 15 FEET FROM THAT POINT TO THEIR PROPERTY.
>> ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE? GO FOR EXTINGUISHER LARRY. OLD HELP MAN.
ANY QUESTIONS AROUND? SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. GOOD WORK.
ALL PARTIES ARE IN AGREEMENT. >> THIS NEW REASON? YEAH.
YES, SIR. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REPEALING
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THE 1991 EASEMENT ORDINANCE AND EXECUTING A NEW ONE. UNFORTUNATELY THAT PROPERTY KNOWN AS FORWARD SHARING SO MOVED MADAM CHAIRMAN. COUNCILMAN ROBIN MADE A MOTIONTO HAVE A SECOND LOOK. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN GLOVER WITH WITHOUT
[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE REPEALING AN ORDINANCE CREATING THE SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY CORRIDOR BEAUTIFICATION BOARD]
OBJECTION THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THAT COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LYNN. THE NEXT ONE IS NUMBER NINE. THIS IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF FIRST REVIEW OF AN ORDINANCE REPEALING AN ORDINANCE RELATING THE SOUTHERN BEEF OF COUNTY COURT OR REUNIFICATION BOUGHT IN MRS. BE PRESENTED BY OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE TOUGH THINGS ABOUT THE JOB THAT I DISLIKE MOST BECAUSE I WORK CLOSELY WITH THE SOUTHERN UNIFICATION BOARD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AS PLANNING DIRECTOR AND THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP OF FOLKS THAT ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.
THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK DOWN IN THE 172 78 CORRIDOR AS FAR AS LANDSCAPE BUT IN THE MEDIANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK IT'S COME TO THE POINT NOW WHERE THEY BASICALLY HAVE FULFILLED THEIR OBLIGATION TO THE COUNTY AND THEIR MISSION FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. ONE OF THOSE IS BACK WHEN THE BEAUTIFICATION BOARD WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTITUTED. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE NOW TO DEVELOP LANDSCAPING PLANS AND TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR LANDSCAPING ALONG ROADWAY CORRIDORS. THAT ACCENT IS CHANGED AND WE NOW HAVE SUCH A PERSON IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT BY NAME AND NANCY MOSS WHO ALSO IS THE LIAISON ON FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION BOARD. IN ADDITION TO THAT, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS THIS ICON DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION IS CONTINUALLY TO TIGHTEN THE REINS ON JURISDICTIONS DOING LANDSCAPING AND ROADWAYS MEANING THAT WHENEVER WE PUT LANDSCAPING IN A MEDIAN ALONG THE ROADWAY THEY REQUIRE US TO TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT PORTION OF THE ROADWAY INCLUDING GRASS CUTTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE COST OF DOING THE LANDSCAPING PROJECT, WE HAVE TO THEN ALLOCATE FUNDS ANNUALLY TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADWAYS SECTIONS AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR US TO DO SO IN THE TUESDAY MEETING CORRIDOR AND THEN IN ADDITION THAT MANY OF YOU THAT TRAVEL THAT CORRIDOR HAVE PROBABLY NOTICED FOR PAYING ATTENTION THAT SOMETIMES YOU'RE RIGHT THERE AND THERE'S HOLES IN THE PLANTINGS WHERE THE BUSHES AREN'T WHERE THEY SHOULD BE BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, PATTERN FOR THE OTHER BUSHES OR THE TREES OR A TREE MAY BE LEANING
OVER AND ALL OF THAT. >> AND THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE COME DOWN TO 78 TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF THEM. SO THEY GO INTO THE MEDIAN AND THEY TAKE OUT SAID PLANT MATERIAL OR PUSH IT OVER OR WHATEVER AND IN SOME CASES IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK AS WELL AS IT POTENTIALLY COULD. WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB OF DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THAT M REPLACED OR PROPERLY MAINTAINED BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A PART OF OUR MAIN CONTRACT. SO I HAVEN'T SAID THAT STAFF HAS FIELDS WHERE I FEEL AND I RECOMMEND YOU OR AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT YOU ALL CONSIDERED ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REPEAL THE BEAUTIFICATION WORK AND THINK THE FOLKS I THINK SEVERAL
OF THEM ONLINE TODAY FOR THEIR DUTY AND SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. >> BUT I THINK THEIR TIME OF SERVICE ON THAT BOARD IS NO LONGER NECESSARY OR NEEDED FOR THE COUNTY AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO SEEK POSITIONS ON OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHERE WE COULD USE OUR TALENTS AND SERVICE BECAUSE THEY ARE A VERY TALENTED PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF VALUABLE INPUT AND COULD PROVIDE A LOT OF VALUABLE SERVICES TO THE COUNTY AS VOLUNTEERS.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THIS SHOW HAVING QUESTIONS FROM ME OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS
SEVERAL. >> I WAS MET BY THE BOARD. FEBRUARY 17 AND WE HAVE A GREAT ADMIRATION FOR HOW LONG IN THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS AND IN THEIR EXPERTISE AS AS MANY OF OUR BOARDS ARE AS PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONALS WHO GIVE THEIR OWN FREE TIME TO BE FOR ACCOUNTING. SO AT THIS TIME DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTION WE'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE? YES. NO.
JUST BEFORE WE GO I WANT TO ECHO WHAT OUR VERY GREATER SAID AND THANK THEM FOR THE ALL THE
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FAITHFUL SERVICE THEY'VE DONE TO BE FOR COUNTING THE WONDERFUL THINGS THEY'VE DONE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M SURE THEY'LL BE ACTIVE IN OTHER AREAS.THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ONLINE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OK. MIGHT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EITHER DISSOLVE THE BOARD OR NOT STATE ONE OR THE OTHER. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION OK. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMENT? OK SECOND MY COUNCILMAN DAWSON WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE FULL
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COUNCIL'S THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 10 THIS IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THREE YEARS OF ENORMOUS FOR APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE OSPREY OR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS WE WERE BROUGHT PLAYING UNIT DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN TO CONVERT A COMMERCIAL AREA A MULTIFAMILY AND MR. MERCHANT WILL BE. THIS PRESENTATION WE'LL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> AS YOU HAD MENTIONED THE MAILING OR OSPREY POINT IS THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE PD BUT A OFFICE IN NAME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT THAT SITE AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE PD TO ALLOW FOR THERE'S A PORTION ON THE FRONT OF THE SITE'S APPROXIMATELY SEVENTEEN POINT TWO ACRES WHICH ORIGINALLY MPD LANGUAGE WHICH DATES TO 2019 ALLOWS FOR TO ENTER AND SEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET
OF COMMERCIAL. >> THE APPLICANT IS RECOMMENDING AMENDING THE PD TO REPLACE THAT WITH TWO TWO HUNDRED FOUR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
THEY DO HAVE A REVISED PLAN THAT HAS A SMALL RETAIL COMPONENT AS WELL ABOUT 70 100 SQUARE FEET. SO IT WOULDN'T ELIMINATE THE RETAIL ENTIRELY OR COMMERCIAL
BUT IT WOULD GREATLY SCALE IT BACK. >> AND AS YOU'RE AWARE THE MAIL
BLUFF OF PULTE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN UNDER WAY. >> ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF IT HAS BEEN PLANTED AND THE HOUSES ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED VERY QUICKLY IN THAT AREA.
>> SO SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT. TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ABOUT THIS SITE WE USE.
THE ARMS MANUAL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TRIGGERS A DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT WOULD REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THE MAGIC NUMBER WE USE IS 50 PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
THIS PARTICULAR WE HAVE TO GO BY THE THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN EXISTING OF WHAT'S APPROVED AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. TWO HUNDRED SEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL GENERATES A FAR LARGER NUMBER OF PEAK HOUR TRIPS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY ONE COMPARED TO THE 90 THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE MULTIFAMILY.
AND FOR THAT REASON STAFF WE DID NOT REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THIS PROJECT RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ONE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE OF THE THE THE PROPOSAL IS TO USE A TAX LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALL VALUE IN HAVING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS LOCATION AS SERVING THEIR EMPLOYEES AND TEACHERS.
>> CAN WE. WOULD YOU MIND IF WE INTERRUPT YOU A PEAK RIGHT AHEAD TO THAT POINT? SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE NEGOTIATED AND PUT IN WRITING THE CREDIT. IT'S NOT PART OF THE ZONING IS JUST A PROPOSAL BY THE OWNER THAT HE WOULD DO THAT? YES, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE SEPARATELY IN WRITING.
BUT THAT WAS THE CONDITION THAT THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT GAVE THE LETTER OF SUPPORT.
>> YES. I MEAN IN THIS AREA AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER ZONING AMENDMENTS, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN ABOUT CAPACITY AT OKATIE ELEMENTARY. AND SO THAT MAKES THIS PROJECT UNIQUE IN THAT MATTER.
AND SO WHEN WE GET TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ONE OF THE. THIS PROJECT IS GOVERNED BY YOU KNOW, IT'S A PLAIN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO ANYTIME YOU'RE OPENING UP OPENING UP A PLANNED NEW DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADD CONDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THAT DOCUMENT. THEN IN THE SAME WAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE OPENING UP THE COMMUNITY IT'S ALSO GOVERNED BY A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND SO IT WOULD OPEN UP THE
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POSSIBILITY FOR RENEGOTIATION. SO WHEN WE GET TO THE RECOMMENDED ASIANS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT IT. THAT'S MIND THAT I CAN JUMP AHEAD BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT COVERS MOST OF THE DYNAMICS OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS AT THEIR JANUARY 3RD MEETING.
AND AT THAT TIME THEY VOTED 6 TO 1 TO RECOMMEND DENIAL. THE PUTA EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE IMPACT OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS FOREST RECOMMENDATION.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS IF COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT WE RECOMMENDED THEY LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT OPENING UP THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AGREEMENT APD LANGUAGE. THE FIRST IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN IMPEDES DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SHALL BE REVISED TO MEET THE MULTIFAMILY ORIENTED COMMUNITY STANDARDS IN ARTICLE 2 DIVISION TWO POINT FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE .
ONE ADVANTAGE OF OPENING UP APD AGREEMENTS. CURRENTLY IT REFERENCES OUR OLD ZONING ORDINANCE BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS OPENS UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO TO THE BALTIC FAMILY. THE SECOND IS THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE RECOMMENDED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND OSPREY POINT PUTIN DOCUMENT SHALL BE REVISED TO REQUIRE THAT A MINIMUM OF 75 PERCENT OF THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING 80 PERCENT OR LESS OF COUNTY MEDIAN INCOME WITH ESTABLISHED MONITORING AND PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNTY. AND SO THAT YOU KNOW, UNLIKE JUST A STRAIGHTFORWARD REZONING THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME PERFORMANCE AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>> THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS AND DEDICATION OF A HALF ACRE SITE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I BELIEVE IT'S SPECIFIC, SAYS E.M. S..
THE AMENDED MASTER PLAN DOES SHOW THIS. WE RECOMMENDED THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT OR DECREES IS OPENED
AS WELL. >> AND THEN FINALLY AS I MENTIONED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO DATE THAT ACCOMPANIES APD NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED CHANGES THE MASTER PLAN ACCORDINGLY ALONG WITH ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS STAFF COUNTY DEEM APPROPRIATE.
DURING NEGOTIATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THEY WOULD LIKE.
WELL, MAYBE THIS TIME THEY WILL OPEN IT UP FOR THE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND THE FORWARD PLACE. THEY USE OUR STATE YOU NAME. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS WALTER REGISTER AND I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE BURN FORM AND LAW FIRM WOULD REPRESENT THE APPLICANT IN THIS MATTER. I JUST WANTED TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO WHAT MR. MERSHON SAID. WE'VE MET WITH STAFF AND WE UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT THE THE THE POD DOCUMENTS WILL ALL BE OPENED UP AND REVISITED AS WELL AS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT THAT THE COUNCIL DESIRES TO BE IMPOSED ON THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS MODERNIZATION OF THE PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS AND THE MASTER PLAN THAT CAN ALL TAKE PLACE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. AND WE ASK THAT. WELL, LET ME SAY WE APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS SOME PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT APARTMENTS IN THEIR BACKYARD.
HOWEVER, AFFORDABLE HOUSING HOUSING THERE IS A CRITICAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK AND BE FOR COUNTY IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES AND IMPORTANTLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THIS PROJECT AS IT'S DESIGNED TO AMELIORATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS, SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS IT EXISTS THE HIGHER LEVEL OF TRAFFIC ON SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 1 70, THE NEED FOR THE NEED FOR HOUSING.
AND IT WAS POINTED OUT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT THERE FOR IT TO BE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE A MIX OF USES AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD IT BACK IN A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED TO COUNCIL THAT WHEN PEOPLE WERE PURCHASING THEIR HOMES AND MAILING IN THEY EXPECTED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR GOLF CART TO GET A SANDWICH OR A CUP OF COFFEE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT A SMALLER, LESS LESS TRAFFIC GENERATING TYPE USEFUL. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE PROPER USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
IT BUFFERS THE SINGLE FAMILY USE AS AS PROVIDED IN THE COMMUT CODE .
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. AND WE ASK THAT YOU MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND DURING THAT PERIOD WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH STAFF AND COME UP
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WITH A APPROPRIATE AMENDMENTS TO THE TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE MASTER PLAN. AND WE DO AGREE THAT 75 PERCENT OF THE UNITS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED 75 PERCENT OF THE UNITS ARE TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE'D LIKE TO FURTHER LIMIT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY EITHER TAKING 40 PERCENT OF THE 75 AT 60 PERCENT OF EVERY MEETING OR TAKING AND TAKING 30 PERCENT AND MAKING IT .THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER. I'M SORRY 20 PERCENT 15 20 PERCENT AT 50 PERCENT OF VERY
IMMEDIATE. >> SO IN THOSE AREA MEDIAN INCOME REFERENCES WOULD BE ADJUSTED BY FIT BY FAMILY SIZE. BUT WE DO THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO PUT A DENT IN THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE . I HAVE A QUESTION.
I'M OPEN IT UP. I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I KNOW THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT PROBABLY TO NEGOTIATIONS BUT WOULD YOU THIS PORTION OF THIS HAVE ITS OWN AMENITIES OR WOULD THEY USE THE AMENITIES OF THE HOUSING FOR HOME THAT WOULD BE USED AS A SEPARATE AND SEPARATE COMMUNITY AND SO THERE WOULDN'T THEY WOULD HAVE NO RIGHTS TO USE ANY OTHER AMENITIES OR FEATURES OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PLAN IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
PROJECT ITSELF WOULD HAVE ITS OWN. >> IF THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
HAVE BEEN SULLIVAN AT LEAST. LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? ALL RIGHT. MISFILED START. NOTHING IS UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO FIRST. NO, I HAVE. OK.
THE PERSON WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY. DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME
PERSON THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY OF MAINLAND BLUFFED? >> YES, SIR.
>> I BELIEVE THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT. OK.
SO NOW THE PERSON THAT BUILT THAT BEFOREHAND THEN IS THE SAME ONE THAT TOLD THEM COMMERCIAL SPACE IS GOING IN THERE FOR THAT. NO, I'M SORRY.
I'M I'M SORRY, MR. CUNNINGHAM. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TODAY .
SO I BELIEVE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TODAY IS THE SAME ORGANIZATION THAT SOLD THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PORTION TO PULTE. BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. AND SO THAT THE THAT THERE'S THE COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY
COMMERCIAL OUT PARCELS ARE OWNED BY THAT SEPARATE ENTITY. >> BUT DID THAT ENTITY TELL PULTE HOMES THAT THEY WOULD KEEP THIS AS COMMERCIAL WITH ACCESS TO MAINLAND BLOCK?
>> I'LL MAKE I'LL MAKE A LITTLE LOVE CLEAR. SO THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH IT I'LL BE HONEST AS IT SOUNDS LIKE A QUICK BUCK FOR THIS GETTING RESOLVED THESE PEOPLE THAT WENT IN THE MAIN THEN BLUFFED WENT IN AND PAID TO GET THEIR HOUSES BUILT WITH THE PROMISE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET COMMERCIAL SPACE NOT 7000 SQUARE FOOT BUT TWO HUNDRED AND SOME THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT. I GOT THOSE NUMBERS CORRECTLY. IT'S DOWN ON THE SCREEN ANY MORE. THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. I BELIEVE THAT'S HURTING PEOPLE'S INVESTMENTS. THAT'S GIVEN THEM THE INTENTIONS THAT THEY WILL MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA. AND OKATIE WHICH IS AN AREA WE DO WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND COUNTY AND THEN THEIR INVESTMENTS WITHIN A MATTER OF TWO YEARS WHEN THE AGREEMENT IS DONE IN 2019 HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY CHANGED ON THAT. I REALLY DO HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT. I GET THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT DR. RODRIGUEZ WOULD SUPPORT THAT FOR HIS STAFF BUT I ALSO HOPE HE'S TAKING THE CONSIDERATION THAT THAT ZONE FOR OKATIE WHICH IS ALREADY MAXED OUT AND THEY HAVE OPTED OUT OF SCHOOL OF CHOICE BECAUSE THEY ARE MAXED OUT. THEY'VE ALSO GRANDFATHER STUDENTS THERE DURING THAT BEFORE THEY MAXED OUT. SO THEY'RE OVER CAPACITY.
SO I THINK THAT PUTS ANOTHER BURDEN ON THAT SCHOOL AS WELL. YOU ANSWER ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS THIS TOWN HOMES OR APARTMENTS? THESE ARE APARTMENTS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE APARTMENTS. AND SO AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE NOT BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE OR LETTING PEOPLE PURCHASE HOMES. THEY'RE STILL PAYING RENT WHICH IS THE ISSUE I THINK WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW AND COUNTY IS WE'RE NOT INVESTING IN OUR RESIDENTS TO BUILD THEIR INCOME. THEY'RE GIVING RENT TO SOME FORM OF COMPANY AND THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR THEM FOR THE FUTURE AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AND COUNTY. WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S ABOUT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BUY PROPERTY, TO BUILD, TO INVEST IN THEMSELVES AND BE ABLE TO REAP THOSE REWARDS WHEN THEY SELL JUST LIKE I'M SURE YOUR GUYS SELF HAS DONE OR YOUR DEVELOPER HAS DONE AT SOME POINT AS WELL.
THAT'S WHY THEY PURCHASE IT SO THEY CAN REDEVELOP IT TO MAKE PROFIT.
I TELL YOU ONE HUNDRED PERCENT DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. THIS IS THE THIRD ONE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THIS IN THE PAST MONTH PEOPLE WANTING TO REZONE FOR MORE TYPE OF APARTMENTS.
RENT CONTINUES TO SKYROCKET. I CAN TELL YOU WHERE I LIVE IS RIGHT THERE ON WALTER.
THE APARTMENTS ARE 20 ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED A MONTH FOR ONE BEDROOM.
THAT'S ABSURD. DNA ANOTHER QUESTION FOR I DO ACTUALLY.
YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SETS TO ENTER HOMES THAT SELL
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AT FOUR HUNDRED YARDS AS WELL. THAT'S FAIR. THAT'S FAIR.HUNDRED PERCENT. I DO ALSO THINK THAT MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY GOING TO BE PERFECTLY CONTENT TELLING THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT YOUR INVESTMENT HAS JUST CHANGED WHEN YOU WERE PROMISED ONE THING? WELL, AGAIN, I WAS KIND TO HIM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SINGLE FAMILY. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH PULTE HOMES. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY OWNERS.
WE'RE DEALING WITH THE OWNER OF OUR PARCELS NOW THAT OWNER I BELIEVE WAS THE SAME OWNER.
THAT'S THAT'S SOLD THE SINGLE FAMILY TO PULTE HOMES. BUT WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS OR NEGOTIATIONS AND I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE THE POINT TODAY.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT THEY ARE IMPORTANT.
WE DO FEEL THAT THERE IS A CRITICAL FOR HOUSING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I ASK WE START OUT IN APARTMENTS. I DO APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR US TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND TO BUY HOMES OR GET INTO THEIR OWN HOMES AND WE SUPPORT PROGRAMS LIKE THAT TOO. BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT WOULD WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND. WE DO THINK THAT HAVING AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT ALLOWS PEOPLE GIVES PEOPLE GIVES PEOPLE A PLACE TO LIVE, A PLACE TO MAKE A START IN THEIR QUESTIONS. YES, CHAIRMAN PRESIDENT THE HEART MEANS A BIG ONE BEDROOM TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM COMBINATIONS THEREOF.
>> YES, SIR. IT'S A MIX. SO THERE'LL BE ONE, TWO AND
THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS. OK. >> YOUR STATEMENT IS VERY APROPOS. WHEN PEOPLE START OFF THEIR CAREERS THEY OFTEN CANNOT AFFORD ANYTHING BUT APARTMENT AND IT IS VERY DIFFICULT IN THIS AREA TO FIND AFFORDABLE APARTMENT. SECONDLY, SOMETIMES TO DO IS MOVE UP YOUR FIRST APARTMENT.
IT IS A ONE BEDROOM THEN YOU MAY START OFF HAVING A SMALL FAMILY AND MOVE INTO ANOTHER APARTMENT BEFORE YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO YOUR FIRST HOME. SORRY.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT HAVING A MARKET RATE COMPONENT. SO 75 PERCENT OF THE HUMAN SIDE AFFORDABLE 25 PERCENT OF THE UNITS AT MARKET RATE ALLOWS A BEARABLE A MIX.
IT'S INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SUPPORT.
NOW THERE'S SEVENTY ONE HUNDRED ACRES NOT ACRES 70 100 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT RETAIL SPACE MIGHT LOOK LIKE? NO, SIR.
WE THINK THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY THAT THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN THAT WE RESUBMITTED TO STAFF THAT STAFF HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK PUTS IT UP ON ON SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 170. WE'RE PROPOSING AN INTERSECTION THAT WOULD WORK IN CONCERT WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER INTERSECTION. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND WE DO ENVISION AS A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO STOP IN AND SHOP AND AND MOVE ON BUT ALSO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. OK.
COUNCILMAN LAWSON, GET JUST ONE QUESTION I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HELP ME BUT ERIC OR MR. VIRTUE MIGHT BE HAVE HELPED ME OBVIOUSLY THEIR APARTMENTS AND YOUR WE'VE GOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOING IN AND YOU'VE GIVEN THE RATIOS.
>> HOW LONG DOES THAT LAST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T BE WITH THE PROPERTY IN
PERPETUITY. >> THERE HAS TO BE AN END DATE TO THAT THAT YOU'D OFFER THAT.
SO IN AN AGREEMENT YOU'RE ASKING FOR HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT WORK?
HOW LONG IS THAT IN EFFECT? >> WELL, WITH THAT WOULD BE A PART.
THAT WOULD BE A TERM THAT WOULD BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND SO WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT EXPIRES. THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ZONING. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IN COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS WE TIE IT TO THE LICENSE REQUIREMENT.
SO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THE THE MANAGER COMPANY WOULD HAVE TO TO IT TO RENEW THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE. THEY WOULD COME TO THE COUNTY AND CERTIFY THAT 75 PERCENT OF THE UNITS ARE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF A CERTIFICATION AND PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE TO THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROCESS. BUT IT WOULD BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND IT WOULD BE WHICH IS FOR A TERM OF YEARS.
AND IN THAT TIME OF YEAR THAT WOULD BE IT COULD BE NEGOTIATED.
KRAMER WE WOULD WE WOULD PUSH FROM HOSTILES DOWN STANDPOINT FOR EITHER 20 OR 25 YEARS.
SO IT'LL BE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED TO THE WHITE LINE WITH THE DEVELOPER.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FINANCING THIS ATTACHMENT WHICH BRINGS WITH IT A MINIMUM OF 15 YEARS 30 OR ABILITY TO AND AS A LAND USE RESTRICTION AGREEMENT. THIS RECORDING SMELLS GOOD.
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>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD A QUESTION OF YOU ON GO INTO COUNCIL COUNSEL. NO. YOU IMAGINE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD COMMISSION VOTED AGAINST THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THE BOARD WAS WORTH SIX TO ONE.
I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING YOU KNOW I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OR TALK ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF EMI. WHAT IS THAT FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR OR A FAMILY OF TWO? NO, NOT RENT WISE. YES. PART OF LOOKING TWELVE THIRTEEN FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR WE GET THE EMI FOR THAT WAS ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I HEARD WAS A 80 PERCENT ONE BEDROOM WOULD BE I COULD IMAGINE LIKE FOR TEACHERS WHICH I THINK THEIR SALARIES FORTY TWO THOUSAND YEAR KNOW MAYBE GET YOU ASKING THEM WHAT THEIR REAL TARGET ROUNDS WOULD BE THEY WOULD THEY PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT MARCUS WELL THE ONE THING I WANT COUNSEL TO BE AWARE OF BEFORE YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION NOT TRYING TO DO THIS AS TO SCUTTLE THE REZONING OR ANYTHING BUT YOU ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN UNITS WITH THE IMPACT FEE WAIVERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TO COVER UNLESS WE PUT SOMETHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND FROM A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR STANDPOINT SINCE THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE REAPING A QUICK RETURN ON HIS INVESTMENT FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE STAFF AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE DEVELOPER PAID FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IMPACT FEE WAIVER BUT THAT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO
COVER THOSE ACCOUNTS. SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT. >> HOW MANY APARTMENTS WITH OVER TWO WINNERS AND TWO UNDER AND 4 2 2 0 4. SO IF YOU TOOK HALF OF THAT IF YOU TOOK HALF OF THE FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT COLLEGE RIGHT NOW FOR THIS AREA FOR
IMPACT FEES. >> YEAH YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE POINT FIVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER FOR EITHER THAT OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO RIDE IT INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE PERSON'S ON THE PROPERTY HAS TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU TO COVER IT WHEN HE SELLS THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING FROM A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IF WE ENTER IN NEGOTIATIONS FOR THAT AND THEN IN THE HYPOTHETICALLY REFUSE THEN THEY WOULDN'T GET THEIR
ZONING EXCEPT THAT RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY. IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG. OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OF COURSE IN THERE I'M TOTALLY GOING TO COMMENT.
YEAH. THANK YOU. MY INSURANCE.
OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION COUNSELOR ON THE I THAT I GO AFTER PAUL I'M JUST GOING TO CALL IT A LOT OF EFFORT WENT
INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO PUT COMMERCIAL UP THERE. >> A LOT OF THOUGHT, A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF ENERGY AND IN THE OUTCOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AFFECTS A LOT OF EFFECTS, A LOT OF PEOPLE AND TO SUDDENLY CHANGE IT TO UP END IT LIKE THAT AND GO TO APARTMENT'S IS PRETTY TRAUMATIC TO THE AREA. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU'VE BEEN THE POOL COOLER LATELY AND SEE WHAT'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
IT'S I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT MANY APARTMENTS THAT SMALL AREA IN MY LIFE OR WHAT JASPER COUNTY IS GOING TO PUT ON THE GROUND ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 170 THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF APARTMENTS, PLENTY OF APARTMENTS IN THE AREA. I'M I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE THAT WE MAKE A COMMITMENT ESSENTIALLY TO AN AREA AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN AND SAY NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WHICH IS VERY INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO AND THAT TROUBLES ME GREATLY. YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE KNOW DEVELOPERS SEE OPPORTUNITY THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE ORDINANCE WE PASSED WE ALL PASSED THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEES 100 PERCENT OF THEM FOR UP TO WHAT 80 PERCENT OF A LIFE. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW IT WAS WRITTEN 60 MILES 100 PERCENT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE LESS 100 STILL A LOT OF MONEY. SO I I I SEE THIS KIND OF LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID WELL I OVERREACT. WHOA.
THIS IS A THIS IS PRETTY TRAUMATIC TO THE AREA AND TO THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THAT AREA TO CREATE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ZONING THAT WENT ALONG WITH IT. SO I I'D HAVE TO BE CONVINCED A LOT MORE THAN I AM NOW TO
SUPPORT IT AND I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. >> SO JUST JUST IF JUST FOR EVERYONE'S MEMORY ON US, I I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO SAY THIS WITHOUT JUST COMING RIGHT OUT
AND SAYING THAT. >> BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL OR THE STAFF
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SUPPORTED THE WORK THAT WAS DONE. >> ALL MY LITTLE BLUFF WE DID IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS EVEN MAILING LOVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AREA IS NOT THE SAME STANDARD AS THE COUNTY WOULD REQUIRE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN ANY OTHER AREA OF THE COUNTY. THEY DON'T MEET THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THOSE HOUSES DO NOT MEET THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE GAVE A LOT OF GROUND ON THIS DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO PREVENT TO KEEP IT IN THE COUNTY TO PREVENT ANNEXATION FROM TOWN OF HARDY. I RECOMMENDED THIS PLAN AND DIRECTOR AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THOSE NEGOTIATION PROCESS AND NOW MAY BE MAKING YOUR POINT HERE MR. SOMERVILLE THAT THEY PRESERVED THE RIGHT IN THIS AREA TO CONVERT THIS COMMERCIAL AREA TO MULTI-FAMILY BECAUSE THE MARKET GIVEN THIS PROXIMITY TO ARGENT BOULEVARD AND WHAT IS GOING ON ACROSS THE ROAD A 170 AND JOSH COUNTY AND HARDY MILL AND DOWN THE ROAD AND ALL THAT THE MARKET IF IT EVER ACHI ACHIEVES ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL VIABILITY FOR SOMEONE TO PUT COMMERCIAL THERE IT IS GONNA TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS DECADES FOR THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT COMMERCIAL USES. SO THAT'S WHY DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS I RECOMMENDED WHEN I WAS PLANNING RECORD THAT THEY PRESERVED THE RIGHT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE P D TO CONVERT THOSE TWO MULTIFAMILY.
SHOULD THEY NOT BE SUCCESSFUL IN SELLING IT FOR COMMERCIAL USE WHICH I DIDN'T THINK BECAUSE I KNEW BACK THEN THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY.
I DON'T THINK SO TODAY. AND THE PERSON THAT'S DOING THIS REZONING PROBABLY FEELS THE SAME WAY OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SELLING THEM FOR COMMERCIAL.
YOU'VE BEEN SELLING COMMERCIAL PAD SITES OUT THERE ALREADY. HE CAN'T DO IT AND HE'S HAD TO WAIT MANY YEARS IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE VIABLE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY THERE.
THERE'S NO ONE HERE. THERE'S NO HELP. THERE'S ROOFTOPS IN THIS AREA.
SPORT THAT MAY LOVE DOESN'T CARRY ENOUGH ROOFTOPS TO SUPPORT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
OF COMMERCIAL USES IN THIS AREA. >> AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FOR ROOFTOPS AND LOOK HIM FROM TRAILERS DRIVING BY.
THEY MAY HAVE THE TRIP DRIVING BY 170 BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ROOFTOPS IN THIS AREA TO SUPPORT A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING A LARGE COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT HERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT BUT COME MARTIN APARTMENTS WOULD GENERATE FAR LESS TRAFFIC.
WELL, GENERATE ABOUT THE SAME TAX BENEFIT AS AS COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA.
>> SO YES, IN LONDON. >> YEAH, A COUPLE COUPLE THINGS.
ONE ROAD TO ANNEXATION COULD JASPER STILL ANNEX THAT PIECE OR IS THAT A DONE DEAL? MARTY VALE NORTH JASPER DEVELOPMENT PREVENTS THE ANNEXATION.
SO IT TAKES CARE OF THAT AND THE NUMBERS ROB THERE WAS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS WITH 790 I THINK YOU SAID IF IT WAS COMMERCIAL AND WAS IT HOW MANY IF IT WAS NINETEEN NINETY NINE.
SO IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT NINE TIMES THE AMOUNT. IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT WE KNOW NO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING A BIG PROBLEM AND THE ONLY WAY A GOOD WAY TO SOLVE THAT WILL BE IF WE CAN INCREASE MORE OF IT BECAUSE HE IS MARKET DRIVEN IN TERMS OF THE RATE. SO I TEND TO THINK THIS MAKES SENSE AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ALL THE COMMENTS THAT THAT THAT YOU'VE MADE. I THINK I THINK IT'S A LOGICAL LOGICAL THING TO DO ANY OTHER COMMENT. SO I'M JUST BEFORE YOU COME IN I'D LIKE MAKE COMMENTS AMOUNT TO MR. GREENWAY HIS COMMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC BY IT.
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW OF A HUGE KROGER THAT WAS BUILT CALLED THE TRIPS THAT GO BY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE ALREADY ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN I THINK IT WAS YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE IN COMMERCIAL BUSINESS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I THINK MR. GREENWAY IS POINT AS WELL TAKEN THAT THE COMMERCIAL WILL NOT HAPPEN HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK A BIG REASON WHY I UNDERSTAND WHY THE OWNER WANTS TO DO THIS. I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DO PASS THIS ON UP FOR A FULL COUNCIL, WE CAN ALSO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE FORM TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE AGREEMENT. FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. GREENWAY. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT STAFF ON THE ON THE PEABODY AGREEMENT TO SO THIS IS LIKE TWO PARALLEL PASS ZONING AND THEN NEGOTIATIONS IF IT IS RESOLVED FROM WHAT WE CAN DO. OK. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM, GO AHEAD. I DO. AND FIRST OFF, I DON'T MEAN TO GET FRUSTRATED WITH YOU. ALL THIS JUST COMES AT US EVERY OTHER WEEK WITH THE NEW ZONING
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AND I SAW I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT IF IT WAS ME BEING FRUSTRATED BUT I UNDERSTAND ERIC'S LOGIC BEHIND IT, YOU KNOW. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THAT AGREEMENT WAS PROBABLY NEGOTIATED ON BY THE ORIGINAL LANDHOLDER AND PULTE BEFORE THEY MADE THE SALE BECAUSE IT'D BE A BAD BUSINESS MOVE IF YOU DID IT.IF SO, I'M GOING TO USE CHRIS SERVICE SHAWN'S WORDS THAT HE ALWAYS LOVES TO ASK HOW DOES THIS HELP THE PEOPLE OF MAINLAND BLUFF? HOW DOES THIS HELP THE PEOPLE OF COUNTY AND MAINLAND BLUFF STARTED BUILDING A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
I THINK THEY'RE HALFWAY SOLD OUT. SO WE'VE ONLY GIVEN IT A YEAR FOR RETAIL SPACE TO GO THERE AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S BEING PUT ON THE MARKET FOR RETAIL SPACE OR BEEN ADVERTISED WHATSOEVER OR OPPORTUNITIES CREATED FOR I DON'T KNOW BUT 15 18 MONTHS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VALUABLE ARGUMENT TO TELL SOMEBODY THEIR INVESTMENT THAT THEY JUST GOT DONE SIGNING ON THE DOTTED LINE IS CHANGING ALREADY.
I DON'T SEE HOW PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN FRONT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD HELPS.
BALAN BLUFF THOSE PEOPLE ARE VERY WELL AWARE THAT COMMERCIAL SPACES GO IN THERE.
A LOT OF THEM DECIDED TO MOVE THERE BASED ON THAT. I JUST STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
THAT'S YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR JOB. THE DEVELOPER HAS HIS JOB TO MAKE MONEY.
GET THAT? I'M ALL FOR IT. BUT IT'S ALSO OUR JOB TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF COUNTY AND PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENTS AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. >> YEAH, I JUST TO ASK A QUESTION. MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR IT CORRECTLY BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD WITH APARTMENTS AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE 90 TRIPS A DAY AN HOUR.
OH, WOW. OH, OK. THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.
YEAH. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD THAT CORRECT CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN MARSHALL ON ON AVERAGE. OK.
>> THAT'S NICE. WHAT'S WHAT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU YOU THAT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD THAT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PENDING ON THIS PROPERTY MAIDEN BLUFF IS CRUISING RIGHT ALONG WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THEY SO FAR THEY HAVE FAILED TO MEET ANY
OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. >> WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM ANY PHASES UNTIL WE HAVE SOME RESPONSE ON THEIR OBLIGATIONS UNDERNEATH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WOULD THAT BE PULTE THAT WOULD BE PULLED? SO NOT THE PEOPLE BUYING BUT PULTE IS ANOTHER TAXPAYER'S BUT THE BUSINESS PULTE, PULTE, THE DEVELOPMENT AND THIS DEVELOPER OWNS THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S A JOINT DEVELOPMENT. WHAT HAPPENS IS THE DEVELOPER ENTERED INTO TO DEVELOP AGREEMENT. HE SELLS A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY HE ASSIGNS THOSE OBLIGATIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO PULTE THEN TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES AT THAT. ALL RIGHT. PULTE HAS OBLIGATIONS.
THE DEVELOPER HAS OBLIGATIONS. WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GAME PLAN TO SAY OK, GUYS, WHO'S DOING THESE ROADS AND WHO'S DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS? WHO'S DOING THESE BUFFERS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE COUNTY PART THAT'S GOING IN BEHIND THE ANIMAL SHELTER WHO'S DOING ALL THAT? AND WHEN'S IT GOING HOME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO BEING DONE WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL SECTION. SO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A PICTURE HERE OF THAT. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY AT REPORTING IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO IN GOOD FAITH CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE EITHER.
HEY. WELL, I MEAN CAN COUNCILMAN GLOVER GO AHEAD EVEN WHEN YOU
TERM CHAIRMAN PAST MIGHT GO AHEAD. >> YES.
WERE YOU TAKING COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY WHO WAS ONLINE CUSTOMERS, A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS
HIS HAND RAISED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? >> WELL, WE HAD A PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD ALREADY. >> I SAID HE WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT PART THAT'S DAVID BENNETT.
OH, HE'S THAT ARE THE ONLY THE APPLICANT THAT CERTAINLY IS PART OF THE OWNER.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. COUNCILMAN GLOVER, GO AHEAD. LET ME ASK A QUICK QUESTION SINCE YOU'VE RAISED THAT POINT . WE WE KIND OF STINK.
DO WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS THE STEPS MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE HIM COULD TAKE ON THE COURT.
WE CAN STOP THERE. WE CAN WE CAN DECLARE THAT WE HAVE REACHED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND STOP THEIR DEVELOPMENT. IF THEY DON'T IF THEY SHOW NO PERMIT THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE THERE YET . WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM.
WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING CALLED THEIR ANNUAL REVIEW TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY STAND AND WHAT THEIR PLAN IS AND WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DONE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE EQUATION. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T DO IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOU GET YOU WE ISSUE A LETTER YOU WANT SOME TIME TO RESPOND TO CONFIDE IN THEM IF THEY DON'T COMPLY THEN WE HAVE A NOVEL. WE WE GO TO COURT AND WE STOP THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> OK. MR. BENNETT, WHO IS A PART OF THE OWNERSHIP REALLY HAS FOR MORE CAUGHT UP WITH DOES THE THE OWNER OR THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN QUESTION HERE THAT WANTS TO HAVE IT RESOLD THAT SOLD THE PROPERTY TO PORK AND POULTRY POKEY PULTE PROPERTY THE OR DO THEY HAVE ANY LIABILITY FOR WHAT HE DOES OR DOESN'T DO OR DO THEY
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COMPLETELY LET THEMSELVES OFF THE HOOK BY SELLING THAT PROPERTY?I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY DID. WELL, YEAH. >> SO THEY DON'T HAVE.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THEY WOULD SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LIABILITY FOR THOSE ALLEGATIONS THAT OKATIE HAS ON THEIR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE.
BUT IF THERE'S THINGS IN THE DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT THAT TALKED ABOUT ROAD BEING CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN PORT DEAL ON THIS PROPERTY AND ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF THAT MIGHT BE A JOINT THING THEN THEY CAN ASSIGN THAT AWAY. THEY'RE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE OVERALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE. THAT MAKES THE DEVELOPER APART FROM A TRANSPORTATION ARCHAEOLOGIST MADE A PLAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND JUST LET YOURSELF OFF THE HOOK BY SELLING IT TO SOMEWHERE DOWN
THE ROAD. >> BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT EITHER. AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY FOLKS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE OPTION A LOT OF THESE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE CRACK OPEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IT'S GAME OVER FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP BOTH SIDES THE EQUATION AND THEY GET TO STAND UP AND SAY OH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PULTE. BUT WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OPENS UP, I'M GOING TO USE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN UP EVERYTHING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. SO I'VE MADE THAT CLEAR TO ALL PARTIES.
SO SORRY. I WAS LIKE NO. OK, MR. BENNETT, GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SAY YOU'RE IN. RIGHT.
THAT'S OK. >> THAT WE'RE DOING WELL. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST MOST YOU KNOW I'VE SAT ON THE SIDE OF THE DICE. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO MEASURE THE PROS CONS AND ULTIMATELY SEEK SOLUTIONS THAT BENEFIT ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
YOUR CASE. AND WE HAVE A COUNTY WIDE CONSTITUENCY THE COUNTY A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK WENT TO A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND ITS NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM ONE COUNTY TO THE OTHER BOTH IN TERMS OF RENTAL HOUSING AS WELL AS FOR SALE. AND THE ANSWER WE RECEIVED AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS REAL WELL, ALICE, IS THAT WE HAD A AGAIN AT THAT POINT IN TIME OF FIFTY FIVE HUNDRED SORTABLE HOMES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. ABOUT TWO THIRDS THOSE WERE IN THE RENTAL ROUND.
AND SINCE THAT POINT IN TIME IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY WE HAVE DELIVERED ZERO AND I THINK THE REASON THAT YOU MAY BE GETTING REQUESTS FOR REZONING IS IF INDEED THEY ARE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS OPPOSED TO TRADITIONAL MARKET RATE HOUSING IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO GROUND THAT IS ZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SUITABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY. AND THIS IS THE FIRST SITE THAT WE FOUND THAT WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD LOCATION AND MEETS A NEED OF RIGHT THERE IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA AS WELL AS IN OVERALL SOME OTHER COUNTIES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT NEED. WHY IS THAT A BENEFIT TO CONSTITUENCIES OF ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY? BECAUSE THE EMPLOYERS RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF COUNTY ARE SCREENING OR WORKERS AND THEY CAN'T FIND THEM. AND THAT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE. IT'S AN ISSUE IN OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW WHICH IS WHY DR.
RODRIGUEZ AND MR. CAMPBELL BOTH SUPPORTED ARE THOSE REQUESTS TO REZONING THE SITE PERMIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEY ARE HAVING TROUBLE ATTRACTING AND RETAINING QUALITY TEACHERS AND OUR HOUSING IS A STEP TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE IT TO THEM.
IT'S A STEP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THAT GOOD QUALITY TEACHER THAT WILL TEACH OUR CHILDREN AND WE CAN TAKE THAT SITUATION AND APPLY THAT TO ANY NUMBER OF EMPLOYERS ALL ACROSS SOUTHERN GUILFORD COUNTY, ALL OF WHICH ARE LOOKING FOR GOOD QUALITY WORKERS TO BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS FOR COUNTY AS WELL AS THE INTEREST IN YOU MAY BE TOO
FAR AWAY FROM YOUR SPEAKER HERE JUST GOING INTO NOW. >> I KEEP HEARING THAT OH GOOD AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS OVERCAPACITY. AND SO I TOOK THE TIME TO REVIEW THE MOST RECENT STRATEGIC PLAN FOR COUNTY SCHOOL WHICH WAS JUST ISSUED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND IT REPORTS THAT THE OKATIE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS OPERATING
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AT SEVENTY SIX PERCENT OF PROJECTED CAPACITY AND THAT IS WHAT IS EXPECTED TO BE THROUGH 2020 7 WHICH IS THE END OF THE STUDY PERIOD OF THE REPORT.I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MISINFORMATION IS BEING DERIVED FROM BUT THAT IS WHAT THE D.C.
PLAN FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS INDICATED THE RENTS THAT WE PROPOSE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPENDING UPON WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOUSEHOLD THAT'S EARNING 60 SEND A MOVING INCOME OR 80. WE ARE LOOKING ONE VETERAN RENTS OF ANY WHERE FROM EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH TO ROUGHLY NINE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE DOLLARS PER MONTH AND WE CAN GO SEEN EXAMPLES A TWO AND A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT HOME BUT THEY ARE WELL BELOW THE MARKET AND I THINK I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH COUNCILMAN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE RENTS GETTING AT TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH INSTEAD OF WE HAVE THE COUNTY.
>> BUT HE'S RIGHT. OUR HOUSING IS PUT FORTH TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND THE REASON THAT MANY INDIVIDUALS OR MANY RESIDENTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME MOVING UP TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS IS BECAUSE THEIR RENT OVERBURDENED.
THEY'RE AT. AND WHEN YOU ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, THE ISSUE OF THEM BEING OVERBURDENED BY PROVIDING THEM GOOD QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, THEN ALSO THEY MOVE FROM PAYING RENT OVERBURDEN TO HAVING THE ABILITY TO SAVE SOME OF THEIR INCOME AND ULTIMATELY MOVE FORWARD TO BECOMING HOMEOWNERS. BUT UNLESS WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO INTERVENE AND STEP INTO THAT SITUATION AND PROVIDE GOOD QUALITY HOUSING FOR THAT IS AT AN AFFORDABLE LEVEL THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF THE POSITION OF BEING OVER RENT OVER. AND WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENS OUR EXPERIENCE OF MORE THAN 20 SOME ODD YEARS IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS IS THAT THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY MOVE FARTHER AND FARTHER AWAY FROM THE EPICENTER OF THEIR WORKPLACE.
AND THAT BECOMES THAT'S AN ISSUE EXACERBATED SO. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE OFFERING HERE TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE A SITUATION REDUCE PROJECTED TRAFFIC INTO THE FUTURE AND INTERVENE ADDRESS AT LEAST TAKING A STEP TOWARDS PROVIDING GOOD QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT HELPS EMPLOYER BASE AND INDEED ALL OF THE CITIZENS ACROSS THE COUNTY INCLUDING OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR CHILDREN. SO I'M ASKING YOU FOR THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU.
FORMER MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, AT THIS TIME UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS SOME QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR NUMBER 10, MAKE THE MOTION FOR DISCRETION AND SAY IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL START GOING TO.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. >> DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS DISCUSSION AND WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. OBVIOUSLY MORE THOUGHTS
DISCUSSION. >> HAVE ONE QUESTION. THAT IS WHY I STILL LOOK AT AS A COUNCIL LATER IF WHAT MR. BENNETT SAID IS TRUE THAT OKATIE BEING AT 76 PERCENT AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY FIND OUT WHY THEY HAVE CLOSED OPEN ENROLLMENT SCHOOL CHOICE OKATIE I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD. I MEAN I'M AWARE OF SCHOOL CHOICE BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT'S NOT SCHOOLS. USUALLY I UNDERSTAND SCHOOL CHOICE COMPLETELY BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARILY A BAD THING. THAT JUST MEANS THE SCHOOL IS NOT AT 100 PERCENT CAPACITY. CORRECT. BUT THEY STOP SCHOOL CHOICE
WHEN THEY'RE AT CAPACITY WILL BE FOR COUNTY. >> YOU KNOW YOU HAVE DIFFERENT
FACTS THAN HE DOES SO. >> HE SAID 76 AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S AT FULL CAPACITY.
WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN. YEAH. WE JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE WHAT THE STORY HAPPY. I'M HAPPY TO GET A COPY OF THAT PAGE STRATEGIC PLAN. THAT'S HELPFUL. THAT'S FINE.
I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOUR NUMBERS. I'M CURIOUS WHY THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING SCHOOL CHOICE IF THEY'RE NOT AT CAPACITY AS ALL I'M SAYING OKATIE I SPEAK TO
THAT. >> NEITHER CAN I. BUT I DON'T KNOW UNDERSTAND WHAT SCHOOL CHOICE IS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
ONE BEING THAT I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS A NEED IN OUR COUNTY IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE A NEED AND DON'T I LOOK KIND OF FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THE PD AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE OWNERS? I UNFORTUNATELY THINK THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN AGAINST THIS IT WAS MORE ABOUT NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
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I DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO APARTMENTS WHICH I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO WHO DO WE WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TEACHERS THAT PEOPLE TO QUOTE MR. GREENWAY, THE PEOPLE WHO ANSWER ARE NOT WHEN ONE CALLS AND THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THE FIRE OUT IN OUR HOUSE.AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE LIVING IN THESE APARTMENTS AND THAT'S THE REASON I WANT TO VOTE FOR IT TO THOSE TWO MAIN REASONS. ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILMAN RON ERIC, ONE LAST QUESTION. BY DOING THIS, ARE WE VIOLATING ANY RULES THAT WE OPERATE UNDER AND THE ZONING OR A PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND BY APPROVING THIS CHANGE IN YOUR MIND? WE VIABILITY A GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS.
YES. I'M ASKING YOU AS FAR FROM THE LOTTERIES PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW AND AS TO YOUR CASE YOU'RE NOT VIOLATING ANYTHING NOT VALID IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING AGREEMENT.
>> YOU GOT THE RIGHT TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE FOR THE PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO. NOW THERE'S ONE SUPREME COURT
RULING ABOUT MIXED USE. >> WE THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
IT'S MY OPINION THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT HAS CORRECTED THAT SITUATION BY.
ORIGINALLY THEY WANTED TO DO AIR ALL APARTMENTS UP HERE WITH NO COMMERCIAL.
AND THEY'VE GONE BACK AND NOW I'M PUT IN THE PARK COMMERCIAL COMPONENT SO DEAL STILL DOES QUALIFY FOR MIXED USE OF A PIZZA SHOP RESTAURANT OR SOME SORT OF RETAIL CARRIER RIGHT THERE WHATEVER WHATEVER MIGHT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL ON THIS LOCATION IS IS A GOOD THING.
THEY'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE A BENEFIT, A NEED TO THE COMMUNITY.
OK. WE'RE READY FOR THOSE. NO ONE HAS A HAND RAISED.
OK. COUNT SOME RODMAN. YOU MADE THE MOTION.
OH YES. COMES AND GOES. COUNCILMAN DAWSON MADE THE
SECOND PASS. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN ON THAT GLOVER I'M GOING OUT WITH BEN RIGHT NOW. I GOT A RESERVATION SO I WOULD KNOW.
ALL RIGHT. >> COUNCILMAN, PARSIMONY. YES.
KEVIN SOMERVILLE. NO. COUNCILOR LAWSON PARK LAWSON.
YES. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. >> YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN MIKE ELLEN KNOW ME AND THE CHAIRMAN VOTES YES. SO IT'S FOUR YES AND FIVE.
OH YES. WAS THAT FOUR? I COUNTED SOME EIGHT.
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SO IT DID PASS FACT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS MOVES ON TO COUNCIL.ALL RIGHT. NUMBER ELEVEN DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL AGREED ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED SALE OR PURCHASE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS
ON REAL PROPERTY KNOWN AS BEACH CITY ROAD. >> YEAH, IT'S ME AGAIN.
THIS IS ME. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. SO I WANTED TO DO THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS A DRAWN OUT LOCATION YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY FROM COUNTY HILTON AT AND FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY REGARDING A PARCEL FRONTING THE CITY ROAD.
IT'S ABOUT A HALF ACRE PARCEL FRENCH'S BAYFRONT BEACH CITY ROAD AND THE HILTON HEAD RIGHT BEHIND THE CHERRY HILL SCHOOL WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIS CHAIR.
YOUR SCHOOL'S ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER OF TRAIL SCHOOL IF YOU RECALL.
SO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ST. JAMES CHURCH. SO AS A SECONDARY COMPONENT HERE, AS YOU RECALL WE ARE WORKING WITH THE FAA ON THE RELOCATION OF ST. JAMES CHURCH AND THE CHERRY HILL SCHOOL TO ANOTHER LOCATION TO PROTECT THE AIRSPACE OF THE AIRPORT AT THAT AIRPORT. PRIMARILY THIS PROPERTY IS OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC CONGREGATION OF THE ST. JAMES CHURCH.
THE HISTORIC NATURE YOUR SCHOOL SITE, THE PROXIMITY TO MITCHELL WILL AND THE PROXIMITY TO OTHER PROPERTIES FRONTING BEACH CITY ROAD THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY OWNS WITH THE TOWN HEAD ON.
WE'RE SEEKING PERMISSION FROM YOU THIS AFTERNOON RECOMMENDATION TO PROCEED WITH DUE DILIGENCE REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY FOR REAL AND CRITICAL LANDS TO PURCHASE OUT OF THE PROPERTY AS OPEN SPACE THE PROPERTY IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW FOR THE HALF ACRE IS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO ALLOCATE UP TO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE FOR US TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CLEAN AND TO GET OUR NEW APPRAISAL TO GET A
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SURVEY TITLED A PHASE 1 DONE ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT TO BE BOUGHT A FUTURE DATE FOR ACQUISITION FOR ROOM CRITICAL DAMAGE PROGRAM. EVENTUALLY SECONDARY CONCERN EVENTUALLY THIS PROPERTY COULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT THROUGH A RECENT REIMBURSABLE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH THE FAA AND 90 THE MONEY BE REIMBURSED TO THE COUNTY FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY WE ARE PURCHASING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO MITCHELL WILL CHAIR YOUR SCHOOL THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN THREE ROAD CRITICAL PLANS PROGRAM ONLY CEDAR RIGHT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THE RURAL AND CRITICAL ASK ANSWER PAY THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. THERE MUST BE ROOM.YES OUR PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE PROPOSAL CURRENTLY.
YES. WHO'S GOING TO THROW CRITICAL IN BEAUFORT COUNTY THREE RURAL
LANDS PROGRAM. >> GLOVER NO. I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD, HAVE A SECOND OR SECOND LIKE THIS. ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS . WOULD WE RURAL AND CRITICAL THEN POSSIBLY COULD EVEN GET REIMBURSED FOR IT EVENTUALLY? OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
OK, ALL RIGHT. AND WE CAN MAKE THIS HAVE TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL.
DOESN'T DOESN'T NOT NAILED DOWN ON THE ALLOCATION TO 10 GRAND IN 10000, YOU KNOW? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL
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TARSUS AND YOU CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. LISTEN, WE HAVE NUMBER TWELVE AND NUMBER 13.
WOULD YOU CARE TO THEY'RE BOTH VERTICAL AND ABOUT THE SAME TIME WE CAN VOTE THE SAME TIME.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. IN COUNCIL COMMITTEE. I'M PRESENTING TO YOU THE TWO ITEMS. FOLLOW UPS. ITEMS TWELVE AND 13 IN PARTICULAR FROM LAST MONTH'S FEBRUARY 7TH NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE AT THAT MEETING THESE ITEMS WERE PRESENTED AS BACKGROUND ONLY THESE ITEMS WERE THEN TAKEN AND PRESENTED AND REVISED MORE UTILITY MORE ON FEBRUARY 9TH AND APPROVED AS I MENTIONED TODAY ON FORMALLY PRESENTING FOR YOUR ACTION. THESE TWO IDEAS FOR THE CITY AND THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL RESPECTIVELY AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE UTILITY STORMWATER UTILITY .
>> AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE IN YOUR PACKAGE AND THE LANGUAGE GENTLEMEN. ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS ARE YES OR ARE THESE THESE THE ONES WHERE WE WOULD BE WITHDRAWING TRYING TO ASK THE BASIS ON I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY WE DID THAT TO BEGIN WITH IN THIS TOWN AND CITY. YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS? WE. I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM SO AND THEY HAVE NOT I'M SURE YOU HAVE NOT OUR EVENING FROM NEGATIVE FROM THEM ABOUT THIS LETTER. SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR THEM TO DO THIS.
IS THIS THE LAST STEP? I GUESS THIS IS A RESOLUTION AND THIS IS THE RESULT OF NO MORE OR OR GOOD. OK. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A NUMBER TWELVE IN NUMBER 13 TOGETHER SO MOVED. OK.
COUNCILMAN COMING IN THE SECOND SECOND IN COUNCILMAN RODMAN'S SECOND ONE OUT OBJECTION.
OR ANY DISCUSSION? THESE TWO WILL BE RESOLVED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE
[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JOHN A CHEMSAK TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A SECOND TERM WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF 2025]
APPOINTMENTS SEPARATELY 14, 15 AND 16. SO NUMBER 14 IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR REAPPOINTMENT JOHN. BACK TO THE COUNTIES BOARD APPEALS FOR A SECOND TERM WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE 2025. YOUR MOTION PROMOTE RIGHT TO HAVE A SECOND SECOND.ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND WITHOUT OBJECTION.
[15. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENT OF EVAN BROMLEY OR CHESTER WILLIAMS TO FILL THE SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY ATTORNEY OPENING ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. THIS SEAT WILL HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE OF 2026]
THIS REAPPOINTMENT IS DONE RIGHT. WE'LL GO FORWARD TO FULL COUNCIL NUMBER 15 IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENT OF EVAN BROMLEY OR JUST A WAY MS TO FILL THE SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY ATTORNEY OPENING ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. THIS SEAT WILL HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE OF 2026 TO I HAVE A NOMINATION FOR ONE OF THE TWO CHAIRMEN I HAVE ONE. YES, SIR.COUNCILMAN MOVE TO NOMINATE MR. EVAN BROMLEY FOR THE ONLY BOARD OF APPEALS.
>> ALL RIGHT. HE IS AN ATTORNEY AND HE ISN'T HELD HERE.
HE FILLS TWO SLOTS. >> HAVE A SECOND. A SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION, MR. BROMLEY WILL BE NOMINATED FOR THE TERM TO EXPIRE IN 2026. I WOULD LIKE TO AND TED WILLIAMS HAD BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS. HE JOINED IT IN 2004 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR OUR THANKS FOR HIS MANY YEARS SERVICE.
[16. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF JANET PORTER FOR A SECOND TERM EXPIRING IN 2026; JOSEPH BOGACZ FOR A THIRD TERM EXPIRING IN 2026; BERNARD COLE FOR A FOURTH TERM EXPIRING IN 2026; LYNNE MILLER FOR A FOURTH TERM EXPIRING IN 2026; BRENDA POWELL FOR A THIRD TERM EXPIRING IN 2026; ROSALIE RICHMAN FOR A THIRD TERM EXPIRING IN 2026; AND ANNA MARIA TABERNIK FOR A FOURTH TERM EXPIRING IN 2026 TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY BOARD]
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ALL RIGHT. >> NUMBER 16 RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THESE ARE ALL APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY BOARD. SO WE HAVE JANET PORTER FOR A SECOND TERM EXPIRING IN 2026.
JOSEPH SECTOR WAS LESSENING BOLKUS FOR A THIRD TIME EXPIRING IN 2020 SIX.
COAL FOR A FOURTH TIME EXPIRING IN 2020 SIX. GLENN MILLER FOR A FOURTH TERM EXPIRING IN 2026. BRENDA POWELL FOR A THIRD TERM SPOT EXPIRING IN 2020.
SIX. ROSALIE RICHMOND FOR A THIRD TERM EXPIRING IN 2020 SIX AND ANNE MARIE TOWERING FOR A FOURTH TERM EXPIRING IN 2026 TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY BOARD OR ANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT WANTS TO VOTE INDIVIDUALLY ON THESE APPOINTMENTS.
NO, BARRY, NONE. OK. I'D LIKE THE BOOK RECOMMENDATION. OK. COUNCILMAN DAWSON MOVED FOR APPROVAL. I HAVE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SOMMERVILLE. SO ON ALL THESE FINE PEOPLE ON
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THE LIBRARY BOARD WILL BE REAPPOINTED FOR THEIR VARIOUS ARMS IF APPROVED BY FULL COUNCIL. AND AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SALE SESSION TO SAY CERTAIN SALE. NEED TO SACK ONE OF CODE 30 FORD F 70 A TWO.DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED PURCHASE OR SALE OF PROPERTY. NEW RIVERSIDE LIBRARY IMPORT WORLD BOTH LANDING MR. KEVIN .
IF YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE MATTERS ARISING OUT OF THIS AS IMPOSSIBLE AS POSSIBLE.
OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN COME BACK HERE IN THE AFTERWARDS. OH I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND MOTION IS BACK IN SESSION. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND RIGHT.
WITHOUT OBJECTION. WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THANK YOU. AND PLEASE NOTE FOR EVERYONE THERE WAS SOMETHING PUT ON YOUR DESK TO GET BRING THAT WITH YOU. THE EXECUTIVE.
YES, I DO PROVIDED THE MOMENT ONLY DRIVE THROUGH TO SECURITY.
IT'S NOT A YOU CAN GET A LOT I DON'T MIND WITH HARRY I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T CALL THE FEDS ANYMORE.
NO PROBLEM. WELL, I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
LET'S EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS AND I'D SAY WE'RE NOT COMING HERE. YOU NEED TO PROVIDE THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THAT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.