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OKAY, SIR.

WELL, UH, GOOD MORNING TO ALL AND WELCOME TO THE HILTON HEAD COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH AT 10:00 AM IN TOWN HALL.

AGAIN, I'M EMPHASIZING TOWN HALL BECAUSE IT'S NICE TO BE BACK HERE.

UH, WE HAVE A, UH, IN TERMS OF A FOYER, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE? YES, SIR.

WE ARE, UH, CHRISTA, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, DO A ROLL CALL? ABSOLUTELY.

MR. AMES, MRS. BECKER, MR. LENNOX, MR. HARKINS HERE.

THANK YOU.

OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

IS, IS THERE A FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

SO MOVED, UH, BEFORE GOING TO THE NEXT SECTION, UH, APPEARANCE BY, UH, CITIZENS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS OF THE TOWN'S RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, ONCE YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

EACH CITIZEN HAS THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE TOWN COUNCIL.

AT THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES, YOU ARE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS.

CITIZENS ARE ASKED TO MAINTAIN A DECORUM SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND TO REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE ABUSIVE OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE WITH THAT SAID, KRISTA, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR.

WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP NOR DID WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS SUBMITTED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

OUR FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS THE ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH FIVE DESK, 70 OF THE TIME COLD FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

UH, I BELIEVE MR. GRUBER IS GOING TO, YES, LET ME, UM, LET THEM KNOW THAT HE'S UP.

I APOLOGIZE.

I THINK HE MAY HAVE GOT A CALL FROM THE TOWN MANAGER.

HE DOESN'T HURRY.

HE'S GONNA LOSE HIS PLACE.

UH, MR. GRUBER, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, PROVIDE INSIGHT INTO THE ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH FIVE DASH 70 OF THE TOWN CODE, PLEASE? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY HAS BEEN GENERATED BY STAFF BASICALLY TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PRACTICES OF OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HOW WE TREAT PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, IN LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT PRACTICES IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE.

THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE TWO, WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE LANGUAGE IN THE CODE TO BE IN LINE AND BE REFLECTIVE OF OUR PRACTICES.

THAT WAY WE AVOID CONFUSION AND POTENTIAL PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, ESSENTIALLY THE, THE CHANGE THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP WOULD, UH, REMOVE THE WORD THAT A CITIZEN OF THE TOWN IS AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK, TO MAKE IT APPLICABLE, TO ANY INTERESTED PARTY BEING AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK.

AND AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT PRACTICES, UH, THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SESSIONS, RIGHT? THANK YOU.

NO, RATHER THAN RESTRICT, WE'RE EXPANDING.

AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST IN A LINEUP WITH THE CURRENT PRACTICE.

IF FOR SOME REASON THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T WANT TO GO THAT DIRECTION, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, BUT EITHER WAY OUR PRACTICES NEED TO LINE UP WITH OUR CODE AND VICE VERSA.

JOSH IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT HAS TO DO WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS DIRECTED AT INDIVIDUAL? UM, SO WE HAVE A EXISTING RULES OF DECORUM PROVISION.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT PROVISION IS COMPREHENSIVE.

UH, IT SPEAKS TO THE, THE ABILITY TO, UM, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT VERBIAGE HERE.

UH, IT SPEAKS TO THE ABILITY TO NOT USE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, UH, TO NOT USE OBSCENE LANGUAGE AND OTHER SIMILAR TACTICS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES A PROHIBITION ON CALLING OUT AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, BUT IT DOES SPEAK TO HOW THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND HOW THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PERSON IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED WHILE THEY'RE PROVIDING THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY THE TRICKY PART COMES DOWN TO ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES OF DECORUM.

THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS FIND, UH, OUR, OUR STRUGGLES, UH, BUT AS FAR AS THE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO THAT IS CLEARLY OUTLINED IN THE RULES OF DECORUM.

AND WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES TO THAT AT THIS TIME.

MR. A'S, UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT I, UH, APPROVE OF THE STAFF ATTORNEY'S

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NEW HAIRCUT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS CHANGE, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

UH, ONE IS WE HAVE SO MANY SECOND HOMEOWNERS ON THE ISLAND AND THEY ARE PAYING TAXES.

THEY MAY NOT LIVE HERE, BUT CERTAINLY IF THEY'RE ON THE ISLAND, THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.

AND SECONDLY, I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO OPEN OURSELVES TO, UH, COMMENTS, UH, FROM EVEN A VISITOR WHO IS HERE ON THE ISLAND, UH, HAPPENS TO BE AN EXPERT IN AN AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AND OFFERS AN OPINION.

SO I THINK WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS A COMMUNITY, UH, IN OUR COUNTRY AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, THAT WE DON'T TRY TO CREATE RULES FOR THE 10% WHO ARE OFFENDING US, UH, RATHER THAN KEEPING US OPEN TO THE 90% WHO HAVE AN OPINION, THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

WELL STATED, TAMMY, PLEASE.

UM, I AGREE.

I THINK THAT OPENING, UM, THIS LANGUAGE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY WE PRACTICE MAKES SENSE.

UM, CONSISTENCY IS ALWAYS GOOD.

I DO HOPE THOUGH.

UM, I THINK, UM, UNDERSTANDING A BIT OF PERHAPS WHERE TOM WAS GOING, THAT, UM, WE RETURNED TO A DAY IN OUR WORLD WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE CIVIL AND USE THEIR FREE SPEECH AND WHAT THEY'RE GUARANTEED AS CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A PRODUCTIVE PURPOSE.

UM, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD, UH, TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, THAT SAID, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION BILL, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

SO MOVE, UH, THANK YOU, JOSH.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE, UH, JOINT OWNERSHIP AND OPERATING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND BUFORD COUNTY RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATION OF FORD SHELL RING PROPERTY.

UH, MORNING, JAMIE, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS AND THE NEXT ITEM.

YES, SIR.

I WILL.

UM, GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

UM, YOU HAD BEFORE YOU, UM, THE JOINT OPERATING AND OWNERSHIP AGREEMENT, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT WORKING.

I WISH AT THE END OF THE SLIDE SHARE.

THAT'S WHY I APOLOGIZE.

THERE WE GO.

UH, THE JOINT OPERA, OWNING YOUR OWNERSHIP AND OPERATING AGREEMENT FOR THE FORD SHELL RING PROPERTY.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE LOCATION AND CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THE OWNERSHIP AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS FINANCIAL AND MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS AGREEMENT.

UM, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE FORD SHOW RING PROPERTY.

IT IS ON SQUIRE POPE ROAD, NEAR THE ROUNDABOUT WITH GUMTREE ROAD, UM, AND IS CURRENTLY HEAVILY VEGETATED.

UM, THERE IS AN EARTH AND TRAIL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, IT IS OVERGROWN AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TREES DOWN FROM MATTHEW THAT BLOCKED PORTIONS OF THE TRAIL AT THIS POINT.

UM, BUT THE INTENT IS TO, TO OPEN THAT BACK UP, BUT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS ARE, UM, THERE IS CURRENTLY AN EARTH AND TRAIL AND A, PROBABLY 10 TO 14 FOOT WIDE ACCESS, UM, TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY.

MAY I INTERRUPTED, UM, WHO PUT THAT EARTH AND TRAIL IN? I THINK IT MAY PREDATE WHEN THE TOWN PURCHASED IT AND IT WAS ALREADY THERE BECAUSE THE NATIVE ISLANDERS WERE USING THAT PROPERTY TO GET TOWARDS THE WATER FOR CRABBING AND FISHING ACTIVITIES.

OKAY.

SO IT WASN'T RELATED DIRECTLY TO THE SHELL RING, BUT JUST ACCESS TO THE, OKAY, GOT IT.

THANK, UM, THE OPERATING AGREEMENT.

UM, THE TOWN AND COUNTY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY JOINTLY IN 2003.

AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD AN INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY.

THIS AGREEMENT WILL SUPERSEDE THAT AGREEMENT.

UM, AND THIS AGREEMENT WAS GONE, HAS GONE TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF 2021 WITH THEIR APPROVAL.

UM, AT THAT POINT WE STARTED WORKING ON, UM, THE DETAILS OF THE AGREEMENT GOING THROUGH OUR LEGAL PROCESS, UH, DEVELOPING THE SITE PLAN.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING IN ORDER BEFORE WE BROUGHT THE OPERATING AGREEMENT TO YOU.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND THERE IS AN OPTION IN THAT AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HILTON HEAD CHAPTER OF THE ARCHEOLOGICAL SOCIETY, FOR THEM TO DO TOURS, SOME SITE INSPECTIONS, MINOR CLEANUPS, AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY.

SHOULD WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES? UM, THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJOR PART, THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND ANY MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, SO THIS PART, THEY WILL PAY FOR ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK RIGHT NOW.

UM, THERE'LL BE, UH, FENCING THE TRAIL AND THE PARKING AREA.

SO, UM, IF

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OUR DRAINAGE CULVERT FAILS, IF THERE'S MAJOR MAINTENANCE TO THE PARKING AREA OF A TREE FALLS ON OFFENSES THAT WILL ALL FALSE THE COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES, THE TOWN WILL BE THE DAY-TO-DAY RESPONSIBILITY, THE OPENING AND CLOSING OF THE PARK, THEN MOWING AND BLOWING OF THE, UM, THE TRAIL AS WELL AS THE PARKING AREA, WHICH SHOULD BE A MINIMAL COST TO THE TOWN.

UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE DRAWN UP AT THIS POINT.

UM, THAT IS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE TRAIL THAT IS THERE.

WE ARE WIDENING IT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ACCESSIBLE.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ADDING THE PARKING AREA, UM, TO THE AREA AND WE PUT IT TO TRY TO PUT IT IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ONLY MOVING LIKE ONE TREE, UM, TO PUT THIS IN.

SO WE TRIED TO DO IT AS MINIMAL DISTURBANCE AS POSSIBLE SINCE IT IS A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY, JAMIE.

YES, SIR.

WHY ARE THE TRAILS GOING OFFSITE? UM, THE TRAIL THAT GOES OFFSITE TO HIS RIGHT IS, WILL BE A PART OF THE ACCESS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE BARNWELL PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT TRAIL OFF TO THE OTHER SIDE.

THE OTHER ACCESS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE'VE HAD IN PLACE SINCE WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

IT, UM, THERE IS AN OCCURRENT ACCESS TO FULLER POINT THAT ALLOWS US A SECONDARY ACCESS, UM, TO THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT WILL, WILL NOT BE NECESSARILY A PUBLIC ACCESS.

WE WILL HAVE A SIGN THERE WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH THE TRAIL THAT THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC PART OF THE PROPERTY.

WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE GOING OVER TO FULLER POINT, BUT IT WILL BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE AND OR EMERGENCY ACCESS.

SHOULD WE NEED TO GET IN THAT WAY? THAT'S A WAY YOU GET INTO THE PROPERTY.

NOW, THERE IS AN ACCESS THERE.

YES, THERE IS ACCESS OFF OF SQUIRE POPE AS WELL, BUT WE USUALLY HAVE A CHAIN OF, AND, AND THAT, THAT CROSS EASEMENT WILL BE DOCUMENTED IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE OUR IT'S ALREADY, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE IS ALREADY IN PLACE, UM, AND HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME SINCE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.

UM, BUT I KNOW WE WERE PUTTING A GATE THERE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF BOLLARDS AND FULLER POINT HAS BEEN DUMPING THEIR LANDSCAPE DEBRIS ON THE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT.

I MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND YOU ALSO SEE UP AT THE TOP, THEY'VE DENOTED THAT DARK BOX UP THERE.

UM, TOWN COUNCIL HAS ALSO EXPRESSED AN INTEREST, UM, IN A FUTURE PROJECT, UM, CONNECTING THE PRO THE PROPERTY TO THE WATER.

SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THAT IT'S DENOTED ON THERE, THERE IS A FUTURE OPTION FOR THE TOWN TO TAKE ON PUTTING IN OVERLOOK A BOARDWALK OR SOMETHING UP THERE TO CONNECT THE PROPERTY TO THE WATER, BUT IT WILL NOT BE PART OF, UM, THE FIRST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT IS PART OF THE, UM, JOINT OPERATING AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT'S TOWN MAY CHOOSE TO DO A FUTURE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, IT IT'S IT'S EXPENSE.

YES, IT WILL BE AT THE TOWN'S EXPENSE.

SO OUR NEXT STEPS, UM, WE'RE HERE TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE AND IF APPROVED THAT WILL BE ON TOWN COUNCIL'S AGENDA AS EARLY AS MARCH 15TH.

UM, IF WE GET AN APPROVAL FROM TOWN COUNCIL, THERE'LL BE AN EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT WITH BUFORD COUNTY TOWN STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THE PERMITTING AND DISTRICT CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK.

AND THEN IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER ELEMENTS, UH, IT WILL BE, HAVE TO PROGRAM IT INTO THE TOWN'S CIP PROGRAM FOR US TO TAKE ON THE COST FOR THAT.

AND SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE JOINT OPERATING AGREEMENT.

OKAY, PLEASE.

THIS SITE IS REMARKABLE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY ARCHEOLOGICAL SURVEYS DONE ON THE SITE? WE HAD A SMALL SURVEY DONE, UM, BY MATT SANGER, UM, BUT IT WAS JUST A SMALL CUT INTO IT.

HE IS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN DOING MORE TO THAT, BUT BECAUSE THE SITE, UM, IS AN ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE OF TREES BEING DOWN FOR MATTHEW, THAT WE HAVEN'T CLEARED UP, HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.

UH, I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS ONE.

DAVID, PLEASE, JAMIE, UH, TWO THINGS, UH, YOU MENTIONED PERHAPS SOME SORT OF A OPERATING AGREEMENT, THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOCIETY.

WE HAVE PRECEDENT, HILTON, HEAD, LAND TRUST, UH, MITCHELLVILLE, HONEY HORN REC CENTER AND SO ON.

UM, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS AS MUCH DIRECTED TO YOU AS TO MY COLLEAGUES, UH, AND PERHAPS THE TOWN MANAGER, UM, IS, IS THIS A PATTERN THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE? IS IT AN OPPORTUNITY OR A COMPLICATION OPERATIONALLY FOR THE TOWN I I'M IN HAPPENED TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER PRECEDENTS, I JUST WONDER WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING IN A DIRECTION THAT AT SOME POINT WE OUGHT TO, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, SECONDLY, UH, I AGREE WITH TOM'S COMMENT.

UH, THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY.

UH, ONE OF THE JOINT AGREEMENT THAT WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD MAY BE LESS

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IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY.

AND SO TO PUT THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLOIT EVERY OPPORTUNITY ON THIS SITE TO MAKE HILTON HEAD MEMORABLE, UH, DISTINCTIVE AND, UH, CONVEYED TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE ISLAND AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE ISLAND, WHY THIS PLACE IS EXTRAORDINARY.

AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF AND I THINK IT'S TOWN STAFF, UH, TO TAKE THE SIGNAGE AND THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS TO A NEW LEVEL.

HOW DO YOU CONVEY THE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE WALKING AROUND THAT PATHWAY IN A WAY THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SIGN THAT THEY FORGET IN 15 SECONDS AFTER THEY'VE READ IT, BUT HAS AN IMPACT AND THEY GO HOME AND TALK ABOUT GOOD GRIEF.

YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN THIS KIND OF A REACTION.

SO I THINK THERE IS TRULY AN OPPORTUNITY WHENEVER WE HAVE AN ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE OR A, UH, BOTANICAL SITE OR, UH, WHATEVER TO CONVEY TO THE PUBLIC, WHY THAT IS SO DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PLACES.

AGAIN, I'M, I'M SIMPLY UNDERSCORING THE IMPORTANCE OF TAKING EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR UNIQUENESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

UH, TAMMY, PLEASE.

I HAVE NOTHING SAID, THANK YOU, JAMIE, JUST IN TERMS OF THE UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND OURSELVES, IS THERE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD WHEN A, UH, A PROJECT, UH, AT THE SITE AND IMPROVEMENT AT THE SITE MOVES FROM OPERATING TO CAPITAL? UM, THE COUNTY HAS DETERMINED THAT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT PROGRAMMED IN THE CIP, UH, ANY TYPE OF MAJOR ALTERATION IS TYPICALLY DEFINED BY THEM AS $2,500 OR MORE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

EXCELLENT PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THIS WILL BE PART OF THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

YES.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT.

UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT WE GOT HELD UP IN PERMITTING AND THE PANDEMIC.

AND SO WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING TO IT AND HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO BID THE SPRING.

ONCE WE GET ALL OF THE PERMITTING TICKET IN PLACE.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO TOM COUNCIL? I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SO SIDE.

HI.

THANK YOU, JAMIE.

THE NEXT ITEM, UH, TERMINATION OF EASE MYTHS AND THE CREATION OF AN ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE FORD SHELL RING PROPERTY, PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

UM, SAME PROPERTY AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT THE LOCATION AND CONDITIONS.

UM, WE'LL DISCUSS THE TERMINATION OF THE EASEMENTS, THE CREATION OF THE ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT, AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS.

SO FOR THE SAME PROPERTY, UM, THERE IS A DIRT DRIVEWAY THERE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE TRIANGLE PIECE IN THE BACK IS OWNED BY THE BARNWELL FAMILY.

AND THE ONLY ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE FORD SHELL RING PROPERTY.

AND THAT EXISTED WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, UM, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT.

SO THE DIRT TRAIL THAT IS THERE, UM, OFF OF SQUARE POPE ROAD GOES BACK TO THE BARNWELL PROPERTY.

CURRENTLY, THE INTENT IS, UH, FOR THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY TO EXECUTE A TERMINATION OF THE EXISTING EASEMENTS.

UM, FOR TWO REASONS, ONE, BECAUSE IT CONTAINS A, UM, SEPTIC AND DRAIN FIELD ON THE COUNT ON THE TOWN AND COUNTY'S PROPERTY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE, UM, IN LIEU OF A UTILITY EASEMENT.

AND THEN ALSO THE ACCESS ITSELF IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED THAT IT WILL BE A WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE TWO WAY TRAFFIC, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SLIGHTLY SHIFTED AWAY FROM THE MARSH, UM, TO GIVE US MORE OF A BUFFER AREA.

SO, UH, WE WILL BE PROPOSING TO TERMINATE THE EXISTING SEPTIC AND DRAIN FIELD AND ABANDONED THE EXISTING EASEMENT IN LIEU OF CREATING A NEW ACCESS EASEMENT.

UM, AND THE TOWN PARCEL, THE PRO THE PARK WILL HAVE A SWING GATE SIMILAR TO IT.

WE HAVE TO ALL OF OUR OTHER PROPERTIES, BUT ONCE YOU GET TO THE END OF THE PARKING AREA, WE'LL HAVE A CHAIN TO ACCESS THAT.

UM, WE'LL BE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC TO WALK AROUND AND THEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE BARNWELL FAMILY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A COMBINATION LOCK SPECIFIC TO THAT WHERE THEY COULD DROP THE CHAIN TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO THEIR PROPERTY, SHOULD THEY NEED TO, UM, AND WE HAVE MADE IT CLEAR TO THE BARNWELLS THAT WE ARE NOT THE TOWN AND COUNTY NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAPPENED TO WANDER OVER TO THEIR PROPERTY, UM, THAT THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO PUT UP A FENCE.

SHOULD THEY WANT TO, UM, PUT UP NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT THAT, UH, THE TOWN AND COUNTY WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

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UM, I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UM, SUSAN CARTER BARNWELL, WHO IS THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND SHE HAS, UH, BEEN BRIEFED ON BOTH OF THE TERMINATION OF THE EASEMENT, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF THE NEW EASEMENTS.

AND SHE IS IN FAVOR OF BOTH.

SO THIS IS THE, UM, CURRENT PROPERTY AS IT IS.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE DARK AREA IS THE NEW ACCESS EASEMENT AND UTILITY EASEMENTS.

AND WE'LL ZOOM IN ON THAT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LITTLE RECTANGULAR AREA IN THE BACK IS A SEPTIC AREA, UM, THAT WAS PUT IN, UH, JASON TO THE PROPERTY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, CURRENTLY UP AT THE FRONT THERE AT THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS CLOSER TO THE MARSH.

SO WE'VE SHIFTED IT A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT AND WE'LL PUT IN A NEW DRAINAGE CULVERT AND WIDEN IT TO 24 FEET FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC THERE.

SO THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS, THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNTY APPROVAL AND TOWN APPROVAL.

SO AT THIS POINT IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THE MARCH 7TH, UM, NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE BEFORE THE COUNTY, AND THEN I'M GOING TO COUNTY COUNCIL ON MARCH 14TH.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY, AND IF IT'S APPROVED, IT WOULD GO TO TOWN COUNCIL AS EARLY AS MARCH 15TH.

AND IF BOTH THOSE ARE APPROVED, WE WILL BE EXECUTING AND RECORDING BOTH DOCUMENTS, THE TERMINATION OF EASEMENTS AND THE ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY AND SUSAN CARTER BARNWELL.

THANK YOU, JAMIE, UH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THIS SITE IS 3000 YEARS OLD, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE AN OLDER SITE IDENTIFIED ON THE ISLAND THAN THIS, UM, BETWEEN IT AND THE SEA PINE SHOW RING.

THEY MIGHT BE CLOSE.

YEAH.

BUT THIS IS MORE CONSPICUOUS THAN SEE PAWNS.

YES, SIR.

THERE'S MORE TO IT.

YES, SIR.

I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT.

WE HAD A REALLY TRY TO FEATURE THIS JAMIE QUESTION, UH, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING IN ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, WHAT LAND USE RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE ON THE BARNWELL PROPERTY? WHAT ZONING IS APPLIED? WHAT, UM, THE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE THERE, THE ONE IN THE FRONT AS WELL ON THE BACK ARE PART OF A PD TWO FOR THE PROPERTY AT THE CORNER WHERE THE TABBY IS AND THE HORSES, UM, AND WHAT THAT DID AS THOSE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ARE ZONE WMU, THE WATERFRONT PARCELS.

AND SO WITH THE PD TWO, UM, THE DENSITY OF THAT, OR THOSE PROPERTIES WAS TAKEN AND TRANSFERRED ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SQUARE POPE, THE SITE ON SQUARE POPE AT GUMTREE, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THOSE TWO PARCELS WILL REZONE TO CONSERVATION.

SO THEY HAVE NO ABILITY TO HAVE A LAND USE ON THE OR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY DO, WE DO STILL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

SHOULD THEY WANT TO GET BACK THERE FOR FISHING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? TAMMY? I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT WORK.

OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT ITEM OF UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION IS TO, UH, REVIEW PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO THE APPOINTMENTS, UH, TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? SO MOVED SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO, UH, .