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ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO TURN AROUND YOU.THE CHAIRMAN AND OTHER PEOPLE MAY COME IN, BUT I'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM.
WELL, IT'S FIVE 30 AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BUFORD COUNTY COUNCIL, AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU.
SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS A DULY SUBSCRIBED COMMITTEE.
IT ACTS UNDER THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
SO IF YOU WILL ALL RISE, WE WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE, I MEAN, I SAY STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PUBLIC NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, ACT ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME OPENING REMARKS.
UH, PROBABLY I'M GOING TO STEAL THE THUNDER FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE.
UH, SO THEY'LL PROBABLY TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU SOME THINGS OF WHY I THINK YOU ARE HERE IN 2020, THE CENSUS WAS DONE.
IT THEN TOLD US HOW MANY PEOPLE NOW LIVE IN BUFORD COUNTY, 187,117 PEOPLE.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE HAVE GROWN ALMOST 50%.
ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AT THAT PACE? TIME WILL TELL, BUT IT IS ASSURED THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND THE REASON IS THAT MAP THAT'S BACK THERE.
THAT'S THE BUFORD COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT SAYS HOW OUR COUNTY IS DEVELOPING, WHERE IT'S DEVELOPING.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF GOING FORWARD.
IT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE, WHERE THE ROADS ARE.
HOW DO WE TRAVERSE THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY? THAT'S A KEY ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO GROW IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND SHORT TERM.
WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK LONG-TERM WELL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NEED? WE'RE GOING TO NEED A GROWTH.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY.
MORE PEOPLE COME, MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED HEALTHCARE FACILITIES, WHETHER THEY'RE TRAUMA CENTERS, FULL FLEDGED, HOSPITALS, EMERGENCY EMS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND WHERE DO YOU PUT THOSE? YOU PUT THOSE ON MAJOR ROADWAYS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET QUICKLY TO VARIOUS AREAS.
SO THAT'S ONE THOUGHT PROCESS.
SECOND, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GROWTH IN EDUCATION AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COME HERE.
WE FEEL ALWAYS USE THE WORDS, LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
WE PLAY HERE, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
WE'RE NOW THE 10TH LARGEST COUNTY IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO EDUCATION IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE MORE AND MORE FAMILIES ARE MOVING HERE AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN FROM PRE-K ALL THE WAY THROUGH COLLEGE.
NUMBER THREE, TOURISM, WE GET MILLIONS OF VISITORS ANNUALLY.
OUR CHAMBERS DO A GREAT JOB OF TELLING HOW GOOD WE ARE.
WE'RE ALWAYS RE RATED AS SOME OF THE BEST PLACES TO BE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COME.
YES, TOURISM IS PART OF THE HOSPITALITY SECTOR, BUT IT'S ALSO WHERE DO YOU EAT? WHERE DO YOU SHOP THOSE KINDS OF INDUSTRIES? WHERE DO YOU PLAY NEXT RETAIL, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE.
YOU NEED RETAIL, WHETHER IT'S A GROCERY STORE OR A CLOTHING STORE OR A HARDWARE STORE, WHATEVER RETAIL IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND THEN FINALLY MANUFACTURING.
WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP MANUFACTURING.
SO ALL OF THESE ARE PRESSURE POINTS ON HOW
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WE USE OUR ROADWAYS.ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS WE NEED A WORKFORCE, A SKILLED AND UNSKILLED WORKFORCE, WHERE DO THEY TRAIN? WHERE DO THEY WORK? HOW DO WE GET THEM TO WORK? BECAUSE LIVE, WORK AND PLAY THE COMPONENT WORK.
WE DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY WHO LIVES HERE WORKS HERE.
THEY LIVE IN COUNTIES AROUND US.
THEY HAVE TO GET TO WORK HERE.
SO EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN SELECTED BY YOUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE OR YOUR MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVE.
YOU NOW REPRESENT THE WHOLE COUNTY, WHETHER IT'S DISTRICT-WIDE OR MUNICIPAL WIDE, THE ONUS IS ON YOU TO TELL US HOW DO WE GO FORWARD TO MANAGE ALL OF THIS? WE HAVE IDEAS, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE SPOKESPERSON.
THIS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS A CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
YOU ARE THAT KEY TO ALERTING OUR CITIZENS OF WHAT WE NEED.
SHOULD IT BE A REFERENDUM? AND IF IT IS A REFERENDUM, WHAT SHOULD IT BE ABOUT HOW LONG SHOULD IT BE? AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO COST? ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE KEY ELEMENTS.
SO YOUR JOB IS TO FOCUS ON ROADS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS, OKAY, WE NOW HAVE 187,000 PEOPLE.
MANY OF YOU WERE PROBABLY HERE WHEN WE HAD HURRICANE MATTHEW AND WE HAD TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE COUNTY.
WE HAD SOME DIFFICULTY GETTING THEM BACK.
WE LEARNED SOME VALUABLE LESSONS OF THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT MAJOR HURRICANE? WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT OUR ROAD SYSTEMS. WE HAVE ROADS THAT AREN'T FAILING, THEY'VE FAILED, AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE GET PEOPLE OUT.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PENNY SALES TAX FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES, YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON THE FOLLOWING ONE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE YOU LIVE, WHERE, WHO YOU ARE REPRESENTING.
DO THE ROADS, NEED REPAIRS, DO THE NO ROADS NEED REPLACING.
YOU CAN'T REPAIR THEM ANY LONGER.
YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE ROAD OR DO WE NEED BRAND NEW ROADS, BRIDGES? WELL, WE HAVE THE 2 78 BRIDGES GOING TO HILTON HEAD.
THAT'S A TREMENDOUS FOCAL POINT.
WE HAD THE PENNY SALES TAX IN 2018 TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER BRIDGES IN BUFORD COUNTY.
DO THEY NEED REPAIRS? DO THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED? DO WE NEED ADDITIONAL BRIDGES? YOUR INPUT IS NEEDED SIDEWALKS.
WE HAD PART OF THE PENNY SALES TAX AND TWO, 2018 PATHWAYS SIDEWALKS.
WE THOUGHT THE LIST COULD BE DONE.
IT CAN'T, IT WAS WAY TOO MUCH MONEY.
DO WE NEED MORE OF THAT? AND IF SO, HOW? AND IT'S NOT JUST PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS.
IT'S FOR BICYCLES AND GOLF CARTS, MANAGING THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE THEIR GOLF CARTS TO GET AROUND THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.
SO THAT'S THE OPENING SALVO FROM ME TO YOU.
WE LIVE HERE, WE WORK HERE, WE PLAY HERE.
WE WANT IT TO BE THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY, NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR, WE WANT TO LOOK FAR ENOUGH INTO THE FUTURE SO THAT THE NEXT GENERATION, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN HAVE THAT PLACE TO BE.
SO, UM, THE NEXT THING IS, AS I SAID, WE ARE A DULY CERTIFIED COMMITTEE.
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE US.
WE OPERATE UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE ONE OF YOU BECOME THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK BEFORE WE GET AROUND IT AND INTRODUCING
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EVERYBODY TO THINK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT, WOULD YOU WANT TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THIS GROUP? I'M CHAIRMAN OF COUNTY COUNCIL.I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT AN AGENDA TOGETHER TO KEEP US ON TASK AND ON TARGET.
ARE YOU THAT PERSON THAT COULD BE THAT, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO STEAL SOME THUNDER AND GO TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND GO AROUND THE ROOM.
AND HAVE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHO YOU REPRESENT, JOE, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH YOU.
I REPRESENT DISTRICT EIGHT, WHICH IS ON THE DISTRICT.
UM, I HAVE LIVED HERE THREE YEARS AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT ADDRESS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY IN BLUFFTON, IN LOST CREEK, ANY KIND OF DISTRICT, OR AS I ALSO DO CTC, I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS.
I MOVED HERE FROM CANADA FOR 2019.
AND THOSE YEARS I JUST RETIRED HERE LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO.
I WAS DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION AND THE LITTLE COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
AND LAST, SO I'VE BEEN IN A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING IN THIS AREA.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE, AND YOU SAID, THIS IS STRICTLY A ROADS COMMITTEE.
THERE WAS NO MENTION OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AT ALL IN YOUR THAT.
SEE, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU, YES, YOU CAN EXPLORE ANYTHING.
YOU, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO BECAUSE I WAS CONSERVATIVE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HERE A CITY COUNCIL CHAIR, COUNTY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN.
WHEN YOU SAID THIS WAS ROADS AND BRIDGES, PUBLIC TRANSIT, I GOT REALLY VERY NEAR.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL PIECE.
CHARLIE, CHARLIE WAS MORE REPRESENTATIVE SOUND BLUFF, AND I MOVED HERE OR MOVED TO HILTON HEAD 31 YEARS AGO.
FIRST MOVED THAT HIM IN 1994 IN THERE PRETTY MUCH EVER SINCE, EXCEPT FOR A FEW YEARS, I'M ON THE TOWN OF BOSTON REPRESENTATIVE, JERRY JERRY REEVES.
UH, GREW UP IN BLUFFTON, UH, EARLY LIVE AT ST.
MARY'S, UM, EVOLVE COUNTY INITIATIVES OVER THE YEARS.
UH, WHAT WOULD BE PER COUNTY? SO LOVE WHERE I LIVE.
RIGHT, FRANK, RIGHT, TORONTO ON HERE 25 YEARS.
UM, BY ROLES, I'VE BEEN IN ENGINEERING IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE AND THE CIVIL SIDE, AND I DO LIKE GENERAL, UM, THAT ONLY TRANSPORTATION, BUT I LIKE TO SEE THE FERRY SYSTEM AT THE SAME TIME.
PROBABLY THING, UM, WAS, UM, GREW UP HERE.
I WAS WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, 22 YEARS, 12 YEARS, ALL IN HEAVY CIVIL TRANSPORTATION ROLES.
AND I'M THE CITY OF CORRECTION.
I'VE BEEN HERE IN DUVAL COUNTY, 16 YEARS NOW.
UH, LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE, MY AGE, I LIVE IN SUN CITY.
I'M A AND FORMER BUREAUCRAT WITH THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR 44 YEARS, COMMISSIONER OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA DOD.
UM, I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH TRANSPORTATION.
UM, I BEEN HERE 36 YEARS AND MANY OF YOU HAVE TO JASPER WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY FOR 25 OF THOSE YEARS.
I REPRESENT THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, CAROL.
UM, I REPRESENT DISTRICT, UH, TO CALL SOMERVILLE FOR REASONS.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MAKES YOU THIS PRESTIGIOUS BOARD.
I'M A SIMPLE, A LAWYER, MOTHER OF THREE MARRIED, HARDLY.
WE HAVE SMALL VERMONT LADY SALMON REPRESENT WEIGHTED SOUND LIKE DISTRICT THE AFTERNOON, JOSH BERBER, UH, FORMERLY WORKED WITH BUFORD COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON BOTH SUCCESSFUL AND UNSUCCESSFUL REFERENDUM.
CURRENTLY WORK FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AS THE DEPUTY TOWN MANAGER AND ALL CANDOR, AND PROBABLY A PLACEHOLDER AT THIS POINT, AS MUCH AS I WOULD ENJOY WORKING WITH Y'ALL.
I THINK THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS UNDERWAY TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO FILL THIS ROLE.
SO I'M GOING TO BE TAKING GOOD NOTES BETWEEN NOW AND THAT, AND THEN BUILT HUGE.
UM, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE, FOR, UH, BROOKLYN WAS 10
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YEARS OLD.UH, BEEN THERE, SOME REPRESENTING THIS WITH NINE, UH, MARK WALSTON.
I WAS ASKED TO REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN.
I'M OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA AREA.
AND YOU GUYS GOT SOME GROWING PAINS, BUT UM, VERY MUCH.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM WITH, WITH, UH, OTHER WAYS OF GETTING THERE BECAUSE IT IS BAD.
YES, THOSE REPRESENT DISTRICT 10.
I HAVEN'T CHOSEN CLI I LIVE IN DALE SOUTH.
I'LL TELL YOU HOW LONG I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND, UM, UH, SEVERAL PRODUCT COMES WITH THE 78 TO 96.
AND A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW WAS I SAID IT CHANGED TO I'M NOW AT HOME.
AT THE END OF THAT CHAIN, I SERVED THAT A SUMMARY COURT JUDGE FROM 9,715.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A WEALTH OF CHALLENGE IN THIS ROOM.
YOU ALL HAVE EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE TO BRING TO THE TABLE.
IT IS NOT MY JOB TO DIRECT YOU AND TELL YOU THAT WE SHOULD ONLY FOCUS ON ROADS.
I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU JUMPED RIGHT IN AND SAID, WAIT A SEC, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THAT'S WHAT OUR POPULATION NEEDS TO HEAR IS THAT YOU REPRESENTING EVERYONE, SEE WHAT WE NEED DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I'M GETTING READY TO GET OUT OF HERE.
I'M GOING TO COLUMBIA IN THE TRAFFIC TONIGHT.
SO, UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
IS THERE SOMEONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THIS GROUP? DON'T ALL RAISE YOUR HAND AT ONCE.
I'LL DO IT, BUT CERTAINLY THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO BE STEP UP.
UM, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO DEAN BEING THE CHAIR? YEAH.
THEN HE IS DULY ELECTED BY ACCLAMATION AND DEAN.
THE CHAIR IS NOW YOURS FOR YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
UH, YOU ARE IN GREAT HANDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO OF OUR FINEST EMPLOYEES WHO WILL WORK WITH YOU AND MR. GREENWAY AND MR. , WE AS COUNTY COUNSEL ARE GOING TO STEP AWAY.
YOU ARE THE CITIZENS WHO WILL COME UP OVER THE NEXT PERIOD OF WEEKS WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.
AND THEN YOU WILL REPORT BACK TO US.
WHAT HAVE YOU Y'ALL HAVE A, UH, A VISION AS FAR AS, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, UM, WE DO, AND THESE PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU WHAT OUR VISION IS.
YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THREE THINGS, THE PROJECTS, THE COST OF PROJECTS, AND THE LENGTH OF TIME NEEDED
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TO GATHER THE MONEY TO DO THE PROJECTS.SO THAT WOULDN'T BE YOUR ULTIMATE FINAL PACKAGE THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD ADD A FOURTH ONE, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE FIRST QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED BY THIS COMMITTEE IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL FEEL THAT, UM, A 22, A REFERENDUM FOR 22 FOR THESE PROJECTS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL OR SHOULD BE PURSUING ON THE BALLOT.
THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT NEED YOUR INPUT AND GUIDANCE ON TO THE COUNTY? UH, SO, UM, THEY WILL HAVE SAFE TRAVELS.
JOE, THERE MIGHT BE BITS AND PIECES THAT THEY CHANGED.
WE'LL SAY THAT YOU RECOMMEND A PROJECT FOR THEM.
THEY MAY TAKE PROJECTS ON ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU ARE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL, SO THEY COULD CHANGE, MODIFY YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHERE TO DECK CERTAIN THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE NOT THINKING THAT SLIGHTLY TO A CAR, UH, IT WILL CAUSE THE PURPOSE OF ANALYSIS TO BRING FORTH A, YOU ARE VIEWED AS BRINGING FORTH THE WHEEL OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE AREAS THAT YOU REPRESENT.
SO I DO NOT LOOK FOR ANY OF ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
YOU DON'T WANT US TO DO A RECOMMENDATION, THEN IT'D BE CALLED THE RESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION.
RIGHT? THEN IT BEING CHANGED BY TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ELECTION OF A VICE CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THAT VICE CHAIR COME FROM SOUTH BROAD.
I LIKE TO NOMINATE HORSE KEVIN LAST YEAR, KEN , YOU'LL BE SORRY.
WE HAVE A NOMINATION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, A SECOND, JERRY, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING MEN? UM, HEARING NONE.
I HAVE A MOTION THAT NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED.
ALL IN FAVOR OF CRAIG FOR US, FOR VICE CHAIR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES ERIC.
YOU'VE GOT A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.
UM, SO I'M GUESSING, UM, JARED, THIS OVER TO YOU AND LET YOU START TALKING YET.
AND I WANNA, I WANT YOU TO TELL YOU WHERE, UH, TWO OTHER KEY PEOPLE THAT YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, UH, BRITTANY FIELDS WORKS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UH, SHE'S THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, A PERSON FOR A CIP, UH, CORPORATE MADER FOR THE COUNTY.
SO I HAVE SO MANY TITLES TO KEEP STRAIGHT UP AND NOW WE HAVE A MS. CAROL CURRIER.
SHE WILL BE DOING OUR SECRETARIAL ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, UH, FOR THE MEETINGS, UH, DOING AGENDAS AND MINUTES FROM HERE ON OUT.
SO ANYWAY, JARED, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
I'LL LET YOU WALK, EVERYBODY START WALKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO BE DONE BY APRIL 29TH.
SO AT SOME POINT BEFORE THE NIGHT'S OUT, WE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE, UH, FREQUENCY OF MEETINGS, DURATION OF MEETINGS, TIME OF THE MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO HERE, ALL RIGHT, WELL, AS ERIC MENTIONED, MY NAME IS JARED ELLIS.
I AM AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OF ENGINEERING DIVISION.
SO, UM, OF THAT ROADS, TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT I'M INVOLVED WITH.
SO TONIGHT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT PROBABLY NOT WHAT EVERYBODY'S EXPECTING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, AND I'M PROBABLY TOO GOOD AT DOING THAT TO ERIC.
ERIC WANTS ME TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING AND I GO LEFT INSTEAD OF RIGHT.
UM, BUT ANYWAYS, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TONIGHT JUST ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE FOR, UH, RATHER THAN ACTUALLY GET INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF ROADS AND PROJECTS AND NUMBERS AND ALL THAT,
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ALL THAT WILL COME TRUST ME.WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, IT KINDA MAKES A GOOD LITTLE ACRONYM PACK.
SO, UH, I STARTED CALLING ATTACK IF Y'ALL WANT TO CALL IT TAG, WE CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THE PURPOSE, UH, SO THREE THINGS, PURPOSE, TASK, AND SCHEDULE.
WE'VE HIT ON SOME OF THESE ALREADY A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT BASICALLY THE GOAL OF THIS COMMITTEE IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ABOUT THE SALES TAX ONE, WHETHER WE DO A SALES TAX OR NOT IN 2022 NOVEMBER, AND THEN TWO, UH, THREE AND FOUR ARE THE OTHER THREE QUESTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, HOW MUCH, WHAT PROJECTS AND FOR HOW LONG.
SO, UH, SCHEDULE THE DUE DATE AS MR. GREENWAY JUST MENTIONED IS APRIL 29TH.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL PASSED.
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE REASONING ABOUT THAT.
SO IN ORDER TO PASS A SALES TAX, UH, AND I'LL GET INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, TALKS ABOUT STATUTE, UH, IT HAS TO BE PASSED WITH AN ORDINANCE AND THEN THE ORDINANCE BROUGHT TO A REFERENDUM.
UH, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COUNTY, GOVERNMENT ORDINANCE IS BASICALLY A LAW.
AND IN ORDER TO ENACT A WALL, UH, ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE READINGS IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UH, IF THEY MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS, THAT SIX WEEKS WORTH OF MEETINGS, JUST TO TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
SO IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINES THAT, THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO, THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AND THEN BY AUGUST, IT HAS TO BE SENT TO THE STATE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE REFERENDUM.
AND THIS WHAT THE REFERENDUM IS, THE STATE IS THE STATE, UM, THE EXACT PROJECTS, UM, THE AMOUNT AND THE TIMELINE, ALL THAT IS STIPULATED, AND WHAT'S GOT TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO, UM, THAT'S ONLY ABOUT NINE WEEKS, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, BUT THE GOOD THING ABOUT NOT HAVING A LOT OF TIME IS THIS IS NOT YOUR A PTO COMMITTEE OR YOUR CHURCH COUNCIL, OR YOU GET ELECTED AND IT'S AN INFINITE TIME AND YOU NEVER GET OFF.
SO WE HAVE A DEADLINE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO MEET ANYMORE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
AND WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE, SO DON'T EVEN TRY TO READ THIS, UH, I KNOW IT'S SUPER SMALL, I'LL GO TO HIGHLIGHTS AND, UH, YOU ALL HAVE A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU IF IT'S STILL, UH, NOT LARGE ENOUGH, I'LL PRINT OUT A BIGGER COPY.
SO JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT THOUGH.
SO THIS IS THE STATE STATUE THAT WE'RE WORKING IN OPERATING UNDER, UH, IN ORDER TO DISCUSS A REFERENDUM.
SO, UM, THIS IS PART OF THE STATE STATUTE, SECTION 4 37 DASH 30 AND THE FIRST LINE BEING A PARAGRAPH, A TOSS ABOUT A COUNTY.
SO THIS IS A COUNTY TAX, NOT A CITY OR MUNICIPALITY.
IT'S A, IT'S A STATUTE FOR A COUNTY THAT HAS TO, YOU IMPOSE AN ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO, UH, UH, IN ORDER TO PLACE A SALES AND USE TAX.
SO THAT'S WHAT TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX IS A SALES AND USE TAX.
UH, THE NEXT THING TO POINT OUT IN THAT PARAGRAPH IS IT CANNOT EXCEED 1%.
SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A FULL PENNY.
IT CAN BE A LESS THAN A PENNY OR ANY PORTION OF A PENNY.
IT CAN BE ONE EIGHTH OF A PENNY.
IT CAN BE A HALF A PENNY, IT CAN BE A WHOLE PENNY.
UM, SO, BUT IT CANNOT BE MORE THAN A PENNY.
NOW YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE SALES TAX, THERE'S DIFFERENT SALES TAX THAT ARE OUT THERE.
UH, I BELIEVE THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT SALES TAX THAT ARE APPROVED BY STATE AND STATUTE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, UM, OF WHICH TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THEM.
THAT IS THE ONE THAT COUNTY COUNCIL IS CHOOSING TO SPEND THEIR TIME AND ATTENTION TOWARDS AS A TRANSPORTATION.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN HAVE BUILDINGS, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON.
UM, SO AS MENTIONED, IT CAN BE FOR A SINGLE PROJECT IN THAT SAME PARAGRAPH OR FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS.
SO MOST OF THE TIMES YOU SEE SALES TAX, UH, JUST LIKE THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE HAVE HAS MULTIPLE PROJECTS ON THERE.
UM, AND THEN AS MENTIONED, IT HAS TO BE FOR A SPECIFIC TIME AND FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE MANDATED IN THAT PARAGRAPH.
THE NEXT PARAGRAPH TO MENTION IS, UH, IS I GUESS YOU CALL THAT I, OR A ROMAN NUMERAL ONE, THE LITTLE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH.
SO THIS IS TO YOUR POINT, JENNY.
SO THIS IS WHAT, WHEN WE SAY TRANSPORTATION, THIS IS HOW THE LAW DEFINES TRANSPORTATION AND IT'S PRETTY BROAD.
SO IT SAYS, HIGHWAYS, ROADS, STREETS, BRIDGES, THOSE ARE ALL NORMAL.
EVERYBODY'S USED TO HEARING THOSE AND THEN IT HITS MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF INTERESTING ONE.
UM, SO GREENVILLE SAYS BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS RURAL CRITICAL LANDS.
THAT'S WHAT A BELT BASICALLY DEFINED AS, AND THEN OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECT
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FACILITIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO DRAINAGE FACILITIES, AS IT RELATES TO A ROAD, YOU CAN'T JUST DO A STORM WATER POND THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ASSOCIATION TO A, TO A ROAD.UM, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF FEATURE THAT, THAT PASSES WITH A ROAD.
UH, AND THAT ONE IN ITSELF, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, CASES OUT THERE ON, ON WHAT DRAINAGE CAN BE, OR CAN'T BE, AS IT RELATES TO THE SALES TAX, HIGHWAYS, ROADS, STREETS, BRIDGES, AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED.
SO OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED, UM, THE, THE NORMAL THINGS ARE PATHWAY SIDEWALLS.
UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, CHAIRMAN PASSMAN MENTIONED GOLF CART PATHS.
ANY, YOU CAN START GETTING CREATIVE WITH OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED NOW, UH, IF YOU GET TOO CREATIVE WITH, WITH UFO'S AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I'M SURE SOMEBODY I'LL CALL THAT INTO QUESTION.
UM, BUT IF WE GET TO THAT POINT, IF WE HAVE A QUESTION, WE CAN, WE CAN GAS OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO COME AND GIVE US AN OPINION, AND MAYBE THERE'S ALREADY A CASE THAT CAN DEFEND IT OR NOT DEFENDANT, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY OTHER TRANSPORTATION SHOW.
SO TO BACK TO YOUR POINT, JENNY, JUST, YES, PLEASE.
UM, THIS IS NOT, UH, US COUNTY STAFF OR COUNCIL TELLING, TELLING YOU GUYS, THIS IS YOU GUYS COMING UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND PUTTING IT BACK TO US.
NOW WE'LL DEFINITELY STAND STAFF IS HERE TO SUPPORT.
UH, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DIRECT, BUT DEFINITELY PROVIDE SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, AS YOU MAKE IT DOWN THE STATE STATUTE, UM, AND PARAGRAPH B THE MAXIMUM TIME, UM, IS AS YOU READ THROUGH IS NOT TO EXCEED 25 YEARS.
SO YOU CAN DO IT, DOESN'T SAY THE MINIMUM TIME.
SO YOU COULD DO ANYTHING FROM ONE DAY TO 25 YEARS.
UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT NOT NECESSARILY TODAY, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN OTHER OTHER MEETINGS, WHAT OTHER PLACES HAVE DONE.
SO YOU HAVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE.
UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE SALES TAX.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT DOESN'T REALIZE WE HAVE A CURRENT SALES TAX PROGRAM? OKAY.
THAT IS A GOOD STARTING POINT.
SO OUR CURRENT SALES STATUS IS A FOUR YEARS SALES TAX, UM, FOR $120 MILLION OF WHICH WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, WE'RE IN YEAR THREE, BUT ALREADY HAVE MADE THE COLLECTION.
SO YOU CAN START DOING THE MATH, HOW MUCH THAT BRINGS IN, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NUMBERS LATER.
UH, AND THEN LASTLY ON THIS PAGE IS, UH, TWO OTHER THINGS IS, UM, PARAGRAPH C TALKS ABOUT THE PROJECTS CAN BE SUPPORTED BY BONDS.
SO BASICALLY, UH, THIS IS A REVENUE SOURCE AND THIS, IF YOU WANT TO BOND THE PROJECTS BEFORE YOU COLLECT ALL THE MONEY, YOU HAVE TO STATE THAT IN THE REFERENDUM.
UH, AND THEN THE TASK ANTICIPATED YEAR THAT IT WILL END IN OUR CURRENT SALES TASKS.
WE WERE IN 2018, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR YEAR, UM, OR A $120 MILLION.
WHICHEVER ONE COMES FIRST AND $120 MILLION CAME BEFORE THE FOUR YEARS.
SO THAT SALES TAX EXPIRED, UH, ENDED DECEMBER 31ST.
SO IT IS NO LONGER IN, IN, UM, INACTION.
SO I HAVE, UH, SEEN A BUNCH OF FAMILIAR FACES IN HERE, BUT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE I HAVEN'T MET, HOWEVER, BECAUSE YOU SIGNED UP AND AGREED TO THIS, UH, PARTICIPATION.
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT I ALREADY KNOW YOU, UH, AT LEAST TO SOME EXTENT.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO THIS IS ME TELLING WHO YOU ARE.
SO, UM, WHAT I KNOW ABOUT YOU ALREADY, WHETHER I'VE MET YOU ONCE, OR I'VE NEVER MET YOU BEFORE TODAY, IS THAT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT JUST AS I AM A PUBLIC SERVANT.
AND JUST AS CAROL AND BRITTANY, ERIC OR A PROPULSOR BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE AND AGREED TO BE ON A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS.
YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE ADMIRED.
AND I APPRECIATE ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS A YOU DESIRE TO MAKE AN IMPACT.
THIS IS JUST NOT SOME RUN OF THE MILL COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS NOT, UH, A SMALL THING.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEGA MEGA DOLLARS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REAL IMPACT.
AND BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING HERE, I KNOW THAT FOR A FAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ACROSS THIS ROOM HAVE A DESIRE TO MAKE AN IMPACT.
YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER YOU MAKE IT GREAT OR KEEP IT GREAT.
I FEEL THAT BEAVER COUNTY IS ALREADY GREAT.
UM, I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME LEVEL PLACE TO GO RELATIVE TO OTHER PLACES.
MAYBE CALIFORNIA HAS SOME FACILITIES THAT WE DON'T HAVE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOMETHING GREAT.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY OR YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE.
AND LASTLY, UH, YOU'RE A SHADE MAKER.
SO WHAT I MEAN BY SHADE MAKER.
SO YOU'RE SOMEBODY WHO'S PLANTING TREES, UH, FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO SIT UNDER THAT SHADE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT BETTER PERSON THAT CAN THINK FROM A LONG-TERM VISIONARY STANDPOINT THAN SOMEBODY WHO PLANTS A TREE.
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AND I DON'T KNOW IF I PLANT A TREE TODAY, WHETHER MY KIDS WILL GET TO SEE IT OR MY GRANDKIDS, OR WHOEVER'S GOING TO SEE THAT SHADE.BUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE HERE IS THE SAME THING, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLANTING TREES, WE'RE PLANTING ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WHETHER YOU GET TO SEE THE FULL REALIZATION OF THAT, UM, OR WHETHER YOU GET TO SEE SOME OF IT AND IT, IT ISN'T FULLY USED BY THE TIME, YOUR TIME HERE IS GONE.
UH, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY IS YOUR YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING SHADE AND THAT'S TO BE ADMIRED.
UM, I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON THEM.
I MENTIONED IT JUST IN PASSING, BUT, UM, I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB THAT THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST MEANINGFUL COMMITTEES THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE ALREADY EVER SERVED ON.
UH, THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE HERE.
AREN'T GOING TO AFFECT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
AS CHAIRMAN PASSMAN MENTIONED ALMOST 200,000 PEOPLE.
IT'S GOING TO COLLECT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
THIS PROGRAM, SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SALES SAS PROGRAM? AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT HUNDREDS OF MILES OF ROUTES.
SO THIS IS NO WALK IN THE PARK COMMITTEE.
AND SOMETHING VERY MEANINGFUL THAT YOU WILL DIRECTLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON.
UM, YOU'RE GOING TO INFLUENCE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, THE, TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS EXPECTED.
SO I HAVE A PHYSICAL REPRESENTATION OF THAT, OR HE SAID, YOU'VE TRIED IN A LONG TIME, SINCE MOST OF BEEF PILLS AND LATER THAT'S YOUR FATS AND NIGHT I HAVE TO BE LISTENING.
SO I HAVE LITTLE KIDS THAT I'LL GET ALL THE TIME.
IF YOU DON'T LET TO TELL YOU, YOU CAN PRAY WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR.
HOWEVER, I'M FAST IN THIS AREA.
AND I'VE GOT SO MUCH THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ON THE COMMITTEE FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM OR PARTICIPATE.
AND SO WHAT DOES THIS STRESS RELIEVE? NO, I'M NOT SAYING SO THERE'S TWO RULES WITH THIS, WITH THIS PLATO.
THE FIRST RULE IS FOR THE DURATION OF THE REST OF THE MEETING.
YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE IT OUT AND HOLD IT IN YOUR HAND.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY WITH IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE AN ANIMAL.
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HOLD IT IN YOUR HAND FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING.
THE SECOND, THE SECOND CRITERIA IS YOU'VE GOT TO BRING THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING, SO DON'T LOSE IT.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND LET ME SAY, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.
SO I PROMISE IT WON'T BE THIS, THAT, BUT THIS IS, I WENT TO THE CITADEL AND THE FIRST WEEK THERE, THEY CALLED HELL WEEK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT A VERY FUN WEEK, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
ONE OF THAT IS, AS YOU DO IS WE HAD TO DO A SWIM TEST.
SO WE, AS A LITTLE KNIVES WITH OUR HAIR RECENTLY CUT.
WE MARCHED DOWN FROM WHERE OUR BARRIERS ARE TO, TO, THIS IS ONE OF THEM AND YOU GET IN THERE AND YOU HAVE TO JUMP IN THE WATER.
I COULDN'T LOOK AROUND AND FAIL, BUT ANYHOW, YOU TRENCH WHATEVER FOR A MINUTE.
AND THEN YOU SWIM TO THE END OF THE BOAT.
THEY'RE STILL YELLING AT YOU AND YOU LINE UP OUTSIDE AND GET READY TO GO BACK INTO THE BARRACKS.
BUT AS YOU EXIT THE NOWHERE OUTSIDE, THE SWEET ONES, LADIES ARE SITTING THERE WITH A HOLE OUT COOKIES.
THAT'S THE FIRST NIGHT THAT YOU'VE HEARD IN PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR DAYS AT THAT POINT.
AND IT WAS EATING THE SERGEANTS UP, NOT TO YELL AT YOU.
THEY'RE SO PISSED OFF THAT THE SWEET LADY GAVE YOU A COOKIE, BUT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO YELL AT THE SWEET LADY.
SO THEY MARKED YOU BACK DOWN TO YOUR BEARS AND IT'S TIME TO GO TO YOUR ROOM ONCE YOU GET TO YOUR BEARS.
WELL, GUESS WHAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP TO GO UP THE STAIRS IS YOUR COOKIE.
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AND IF YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU'D ALREADY INVENTED THEM IN YOUR HAND, BECAUSE YOU'RE SHOWERING AT THAT POINT, WELL, IT WAS A BACK OR NAME OR YOUR ADDRESS.SO I PROMISE THAT WHEN WE GET THAT, NOW, WHEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING PUSHUPS IN THE STAIRWELL, BUT YOU DO NEED TO BRING THIS BACK A PART OF IT.
I HANDED IN THE FULL SIDE OF THE COOKIE AND I GOT TO GO UP THE STAIRS BEFORE BEFOREHAND.
SO ANYHOW, THE REASON I'M GIVING YOU THIS IS A PHYSICAL REMINDER THAT WHAT'S YOU'RE DOING HERE IS MAKING AN IMPACT AND YOU'RE MODELING THIS PLAY AND THIS COMMUNITY JUST BY THIS PLAY-DOH.
SO THESE DECISIONS ARE REAL DECISIONS THEY MATTER.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A REAL IMPACT.
YOU'RE MAKING A PIECE OF CLAY, BUT YOU GOT TO DECIDE WHAT ALL YOU HAVE TODAY IS A PIECE OF PLATE.
WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF POT ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE? ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S NICE AND SHALLOW? ARE YOU GONNA MAKE SOMETHING BIG? I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE RIGHT POT TO MAKE KIDS, BUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS YOU HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOMETHING PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
SO PATTY MAY SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL.
SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SALES TAX, BUT BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT SALES TAX, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT VISION.
SO THIS IS THIS BOARD RIGHT HERE, THIS COMMITTEE YOU'RE IN THE VISION MAKING BUSINESS.
WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY NEED FOR THE NEXT, SOME OF TIME? WHETHER THAT'S 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 50 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOME PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE GO, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T STEER THE BOAT, UNLESS YOU HAVE A DIRECTION, YOU CAN STEER IT INTO NOWHERE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET NOWHERE.
SO IF WE HAVE A GOAL TO GET SOMEWHERE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DELINEATED UPFRONT AND A VISION ON THE TABLE.
SO, UM, THE PROBLEM WITH THE VISION IS NOBODY'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A VISION.
LIKE YOU CAN'T SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT TO DO A PROJECT.
WELL, NOBODY'S GOING TO TELL YOU TO DO A PROJECT.
UNLESS YOU CREATE THE PROJECT, YOU CREATE THE VISION.
AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THAT VISION, IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE VISION, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT VISION AND INSPIRE OTHERS.
THIS IS WHY I THINK IT'S GOOD.
AND THIS IS WHY IT WILL BE GOOD FOR YOU.
AND THAT'S PART OF CARING OUTAGES.
SO THERE'S ONE THING, CREATING THE VISION, BUT THEN THE EXECUTE A VISION IS STEP TWO.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IN 2 78, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT 2 78 BEING ON OUR EXISTING SALES TAX.
UH, CAN ANYBODY IN HERE, UH, TELL ME AND ROB, YOU DON'T GET AN ANSWER ON THIS ONE.
UM, BUT TELL ME, WHEN DO YOU THINK THE TWO SYDNEY BRIDGES, THE PLANNING AND DESIGN FOR THAT STARTED TWO YEARS AGO? 30 YEARS AGO, BECAUSE IT TOOK, OH, WELL, BASICALLY I'LL ASK THEM TO CANCEL IT OUT.
ANY OTHER GUESSES BESIDES 30 YEARS AGO? THAT'S ONE GUESS YOU MEAN THE FIRST SORT OF JUST BRAINSTORMING OR THE ACTUAL HIRING AND ENGINEERING FROM THE SIT DOWN NOW THEY'RE STEALING ALL MY MONEY.
Y'ALL ANSWERED ALL THESE QUESTIONS.
I TRIED TO GET A GOOD, GOOD ANSWER.
NOBODY'S GIVEN ME 30 YEARS OF GRADIENTS.
UH, SO THE ENGINEERING PROBABLY STARTED IN 2017, 2018.
SO IN ITSELF IS FIVE YEARS IN THE MAKING IN THE DESIGN.
ANYBODY GOT A CLUE IN THE, WHEN THE BRIDGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED 20, 24, AND THAT'S BEGINS ALL STRUCTURE.
WHEN IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE IN CONSTRUCTION? WHEN IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETE 48, 26, 20 26, 28.
SO THIS WAS FULLY CONSTRUCTED BY THE END OF 2028.
SO WE STARTED DESIGN IN THE VERY PRIMITIVE FORM IN 2017 OR 18.
SO THAT'S A PRETTY MAJOR PROJECT, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PROJECT IN THE AREA, UH, OR IS THE BIGGEST PROJECT IN THE AREA ALMOST $300 MILLION, OR LET ME CHANGE IT.
THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T TALK IN THE MILLIONS ANYMORE OR NOT.
HELLO GOVERNMENT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T TALK IN RELAYS.
THEY TALK IN BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS.
SO OUR PROJECT IS A QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL 11 YEARS TO DELIVER, BUT IT DIDN'T START 11 YEARS AGO.
UM, DID WE STOP PLAYING FOR THE BORDER BRIDGE TO CHESSY THAT WAS DONE TOGETHER, AND THAT WAS A MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECT AT A TIME? I COULDN'T NO, NO.
THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER TO MAYBE OTHERS IN THE ROOM, DAIRY ARE, ARE, UH, UH, 25 YEARS.
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SO IT TAKES JUST 11 YEARS.ONCE WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL GUTS OF THE PROJECT.
BUT AS YOU SAID, MR. KLEIN PRIOR TO 30 YEARS AGO, AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY THE ARRIVED IN 30 YEARS, 25, 30 YEARS AGO, IT WAS WHEN'S THE 2 78 STAR, THE VISION ON TUESDAY, THE EIGHTH STARTED LIKE THIS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOTHING, BUT WE KNEW AT THE TIME IN THE NINETIES THAT LYNN GOT THIS HOT LITTLE WHILE, AND OVER HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT, AND THEY'VE BEEN COMING TO EVERY AREA SUMMER, AND THEY'RE TELLING THEIR FRIENDS, AND THAT'S WHAT, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE COMING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO STOP COMING, BUT WE BETTER PLAN ON THEM COMING.
SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE COUNTY AT A TOWN AND COUNCIL AT THE TIME SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF OF 2 78? AT THAT TIME IT WAS A FOUR LANE ROAD IN THE NINETIES.
AND SOME PEOPLE CAN GRAB ME ON SOME OF THE TIMELINE.
UM, BUT AROUND IN THE NINETIES, IT WAS A FOUR LANE, AT LEAST AT THAT POINT.
UM, IT WAS WHEN WAS IT TWO LANE CONVERTED FOR, UH, SAVANNAH EVERY DAY FROM 74 TO TWO 13 TO TWO EIGHT.
AND I REMEMBER ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS TWO LANES ALL THE WAY UNTIL YOU TURN OFF TO GO TO HILTON HEAD.
SO ONCE YOU TURN OFF OFF OF ONE 70 OR OUT THERE STARTING TO HOLD UP, SO ONE SAYS AND EVERYTHING.
I REMEMBER 2 78, YOU CAN LAY DOWN AND GO THROUGH 78.
AND IT'S THE TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU GOT HIT BY A CAR THAT WAS BLOCKING.
WHEN WAS, WHEN WAS THE EXIT DATE? ANYBODY GOT AN ANSWER ON THEM ON WEDNESDAY TODAY? UM, SO ANYWAYS, ABOUT 25, 30 YEARS AGO IS WHEN IT WAS A FOUR LANE, GOT INTO A FOUR LANE ROAD ON 2 78.
WELL, AT THAT POINT IT WAS, IT WAS ALREADY LIKE, LOOK, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING GOOD HERE, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KEEP COMING.
SO WE NEED TO PLAY PLANS FOR FOUR LANES, SEEM LIKE A LOT.
BASICALLY IT HAS BEEN TWO LANES FOREVER UP UNTIL THAT TIME.
WELL, IT'S NOT, WON'T TAKE LONG.
ONCE PEOPLE FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIDE SOMETHING, SOMETHING GREAT BY THAT.
SO, ANYHOW, UH, AND THAT TIME IS ABOUT THE SAME TIME WHERE YOU KNEW WHAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US TO HAVE A PARALLEL ROAD.
THAT WAY IT TAKES PRESSURE OFF THE LOCALS CAN USE IT.
AND AT THAT TIME THAT'S WHERE BLUFFTON PARKWAY CAME FROM.
IT WASN'T ALL BUILT IN ONE SECTION AND ONE FACE, BUT THAT'S WHEN IT WAS STARTED IN THE NINETIES.
SO THEN AS, AS THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY START ALREADY DEVELOPED AND GROWTH STARTED HAPPENING OFF THE ISLAND, THEN WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S THE FIRST PHASE THAT WE CAN DO.
UH, AND IT WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE BACK TOWARDS THE THING OR OUTLETS.
AND IT WENT FROM FOUR LANES TO SIX LANES.
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY STARTED? THEY'RE NOT AT THE BRIDGE, THE COSTS, BRUCE, AT THAT POINT, EVERYBODY REALIZED THAT THE BRIDGE IT'S ALREADY FOUR LANES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SIX LANES.
AND I'M GOING TO START WITH THAT BECAUSE IT COST SO MUCH, UM, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH IT.
CAUSE IT WOULD COST A LOT LESS THAN IT DOES TODAY.
BUT, UM, ANYWAYS, SO FOUR LANES, SIX LANES STARTED THERE.
SO START BY BUYING TO SANDY AWAY FROM GREECE AT THAT POINT.
WE KNEW THAT THOSE BRIDGES ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE SIX LINES.
UM, SO WE CONTINUE TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF TUESDAY, THE ATE BY EXTENDED BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
SO BLUFFTON PARKWAY GETS EXTENDED, IT KEEPS GETTING EXTENDED.
WE STILL DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE PARKWAY.
WE DID THIS SESSION, WE DID THAT STATION.
UM, WE SKIPPED A SECTION, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND, UM, BOB, UH, UM, CROP, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
PART OF THAT SALES TAX INCLUDED WIDENED THE 2 78 FROM WHERE IT LEFT OFF AT SIMMONS VILLE, UM, OR 46 BACK TO ONE 70, CORRECT? ROUGHLY MORE OR LESS.
NO, WE WANT TO HAVE SIX LANES ON THE BRIDGE.
WHY DON'T WE BUILD A VIOLENCE? SO, UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
YOU PROBABLY NEED TO DO THIS JAB RIGHT HERE BESIDE YOU, UM, SEND THE FLOWERS AND ACTION, A MORE PERFECT CONNECTION BETWEEN US 2 78 AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY MAKES BLUFFTON PARKWAY AT WORK TO ITS OPTIMAL.
AND YOU JUMP OUT INTO THE INTERSECTION AND WALL STREET.
SO THE MORE PERFECT CONNECTION, THE FIVE, FIVE, A A, THAT WAS THE LEAST, THAT WAS THE LAST PART, BUT THE PARKWAY HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND IT WAS $87 MILLION AT THAT.
UH, AND THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO NOW.
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BUT ALL THAT STARTED THE REASON THAT GOT TO WHERE IT IS IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT 2 78 AND NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS.SO ALL THAT BROUGHT US FORWARD IS NOW YOU'VE GOT SIX LANES FROM ONE 70 ALL THE WAY TO THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE.
NOW WE'VE GOT A FULL FOUR LANE ROAD WITH A PERFECTED TRANSITION, UH, FROM BLUFFTON PARKWAY ALL THE WAY TO ONE SAID THE, UM, TUESDAY AT VA IS ALREADY SIX LANES.
ONCE YOU GET CLOSE TO THE, UH, THE SPANISH WILLS AND THE CROSS OUT OF THE PARKWAY.
SO THE LAST BIT THERE IS THE TWO SET, THE CORRIDOR THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONTROL OR UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE REASON THAT HAPPENED WAS SOMEBODY SAT IN A SIMILAR SEAT LIKE YOU'RE SITTING TODAY AND PUT A MARK ON THE WALL AND SAID, THIS IS OUR VISION.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MARCH TO.
SO THAT'S WHAT VISION LOOKS LIKE TALKING ABOUT THE FOUR LANE BRIDGE THAT WHAT HE IS, IS BUILT.
WHY DID YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT FOR THAT? WHAT IS NOW BEFORE 62 WAS 2 78? SO IT WASN'T AS IF THERE WERE A HUGE FOUR TO SIX LANE HIGHWAY UNDER THE BRIDGE AT THE TIME.
AND WHEN IT DID THAT SECTION OF 2 78 WAS TWO LANES.
WHEN WAS THAT? AND THE ONLY REASON 2 78 WAS WIDE UNIT PROBLEM.
ONE 70 TO INTERSTATE 95 WAS BECAUSE A MAJOR DEVELOPER WERE ALL THE PEOPLE OVER 65 LIVE, UM, SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BUILD SOME CITY IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY, INTERSTATE 95 AND SUDDENLY THE MONEY WAS FOUND.
SO, I MEAN, IT WASN'T LIKE PEOPLE SAT AROUND AND, OH, WE'VE HAD FOUR LANES OFF READY TO THE FOUR LANE BRIDGE.
IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TWO LANES AND NO, NOT THAT LONG AGO.
SO IT WAS A FOUR LANE BRIDGE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JENNY IS UNLESS SOMEBODY CONCOCTS AN IDEA AND A VISION AND A PLAN, WHAT IT SAYS, IT SHOW THE DOOR.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL EVERYBODY'S HEARD OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
BILL IS 1.9 TRILLION, $1.3 TRILLION TRILLION WITH T.
BUT ISN'T YOU JUST DON'T, I MEAN, YOU GOTTA HAVE A PLAN AND YOU GOTTA HAVE STUFF, UH, ALL THE WAY DEVELOPED.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENS.
SO, BUT WHAT DOES THE DIVISION LOOK LIKE FOR THIS COMMITTEE? UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, DO I HAVE VISION? YEAH.
AM I GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW? NOT RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT MY VISION IS, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU AS WE TALK, WHAT, WHAT I SEE US, UM, AS STAFF AND COUNCIL, WHAT THE VISION IS AND MARRY THAT WITH THE IDEAS THAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR.
WHAT I DO KNOW THOUGH IS WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FIND MY JOB AND MY CAREER, I HAD A HARD TIME DETERMINING WHAT I WANTED TO BE.
UM, I WAS GOOD AT SCIENCE AND MATHS.
EVERYBODY SAID ENGINEERING, BUT WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW IS WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO BE.
AND THAT WAS THE THINGS THAT I DID GROWING UP.
I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO BE A FARMER.
UM, DID THAT, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE MY BACK WHEN I TURNED 60.
SO, UH, THAT WASN'T IN THE CARDS FOR ME.
AND I KNEW I DIDN'T WANT TO, UM, WORK AT MCDONALD'S AND, AND COOK BRIDGE PASS.
SO THANKS TO THAT DID HELP ME FIND WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
SO I THOUGHT MAYBE FOR US, THAT WOULD BE A, PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD STARTING POINT JUST AS ANY.
SO AS WE CREATE OUR VISION, LET'S START WITH THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY ALL AGREE THAT WITH NO WALLS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THIS, AND I TRIED TO GET PICTURES OR B FOR COUNTIES TO APOLOGIZE.
THESE AREN'T ALL BEAVER COUNTY.
SO DON'T, DON'T HATE ME FOR THAT.
UM, NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT FREELANCER, WHAT I'M REALLY GETTING DISTRACTED TRAFFIC.
THIS IS WHAT CHARLESTON LOOKS LIKE TODAY, RIGHT? IT BE HILTON.
IT COULDN'T BE, MAYBE IT IS IN BEAVER COUNTY.
UH, BUT THE MAIN POINT IS TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, JOSH, YOU SAID IT TAKES AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES TO GET FROM ONE ISLAND TO THE NEXT ISLAND.
UH, IMAGINE IF IT LOOKED LIKE THAT, NOT JUST ON THE SECTION OF 2 78, BUT ALL THE WAY DOWN, ONE 70.
WHAT'D Y'ALL AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, AND WE'LL GET TO, IF, IF WE'RE NOT FAR FROM THAT TODAY, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO SOLVE THAT ISSUE RIGHT THERE? ONE BIG THING.
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TRANSIT IS PART OF IT, BUT MONEY.SO IF YOU DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING, UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE PROBLEM? UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN, THE, UM, NOW PUBLIC TRANSIT COULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT, BUT AGAIN, THAT TAKES MONEY TOO.
I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON THERE.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT DANGER, MUD ON ROOF.
UH, I GREW UP ON A DIRT ROAD AND I REMEMBER HAVING TO GET DAD TO COME HOME BECAUSE WE GOT BOGGED DOWN ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL.
UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DIRT ROADS, 77 POINT 62 MILES.
SO, UM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY RELATIVE.
UM, WE HAD A LOT MORE DIRT ROADS.
UM, SO 77 THOUGH, TO THE PERSON THAT LIVES ON THE DIRT ROAD, THAT'S SEND ME SEVEN, TOO MANY MILES OF DIRT.
SO DIRT ROADS, I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON.
NOW, SOME ROADS, UH, MAYBE THEY DON'T REQUIRE A PAVEMENT, MAYBE MAYBE IMPROVE.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS FOR THEIR DIRT ROAD TO BE PAVED, SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST SAYING THEY WANT AN IMPROVED ROUTE.
UM, SO A PAVED ROAD, UH, MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE WHAT THEY'RE MEANING.
THEY'RE JUST SAYING, HEY, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT? I DON'T WANT TO BE BOGGED DOWN WHEN I GO, GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
A LOT OF THE DIRT ROADS THAT WE MAINTAIN ARE WHAT WE CALL LEGACY STATUS.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO CLEAR TITLE TO THOSE.
IT WAS A HANDSHAKE DEAL AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU START GRADING MYRA? WHEN WE START GRADING THEIR ROADS, NOW THAT WE'RE GRADING OUR, WE, CAN'T NOT GRADE THE ROADS WITHOUT, UM, HADN'T COME AFTER US AS A LABORATORY.
SO WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THEM.
BOWIE CAN'T EXPEND PUBLIC FUNDS ON THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN CLEAR TITLE TO THEM.
SO THEY JUST STAY IN THIS KIND OF PURGATORY OF SORTS.
SO AS WE'RE PAVING ROADS, WE GO AND PERFECT THAT RIGHT AWAY.
SO WE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THIS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE VALUE TO YOU AND YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
BUT IN RETURN, WE NEED CLEAR TITLE TO THIS.
SO WE NEED A 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY TO MAKE THIS A DIRT ROAD IMPROVED.
A LOT OF IT IS NOT IN THE COUNTY.
SO RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE ON DIRT ROADS.
SO WE HAVE DURHAM PAVEMENT PROGRAM AND WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR THAT.
AND WE MARCHED THROUGH THAT AND WE TRUST IT A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME, AS FAR AS ACQUIRING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IF WE, IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN ACQUIRE THE RIGHT AWAY, WE SAID, WELL, WE APPRECIATE IT.
UM, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GROUP.
I THINK AS I, AS WE LISTENING, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVERYBODY THAT KNOWS THEM.
I DON'T DEAL WITH PAYS JACK TRANSPORTATION FEE.
WE REACHED OFF EVIL PEOPLE IN RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BLUE SIGNS, IT'S ATROCIOUS, AND EVERYBODY PAYS CACTUS.
DO YOU SERVE A DECENT ACCESS TO THIS? AND TO BE TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU GUYS, COLD SIDE.
WE JUST ACT WAS COMMITTED IN THE RURAL COMMUNITIES.
AND THE FOLKS WENT OUT TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
AND WHEN THEY SOLD THAT PACKAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOU TO KIND OF GO TO TAKE YOUR LIFE.
THAT ACCESS IS NOT TAKING A LANE.
IT WAS SOLD TO THEM AT A VERY, VERY NEGATIVELY AND THE PEOPLE THAT NEED ROPE, DECENT RESIDENTIAL ACCESS WALKED DOWN BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS TOLD TO THEM.
I ADVISE YOU TO DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTY, LOOK AT WHERE THE SIGNS OUT AND IS DRIVE DOWN.
BUT BEFORE YOU DO THAT, CALL A PERSON AND YOU'LL CALL THE TIME TO GO THERE AND COME BACK TO THE LINE.
SO JUST TO REITERATE, SO THE BLUE SOUNDS ARE, ARE CONSIDERED PRIVATE ROADS.
GREEN SIGNS ARE, THEY ARE DRIVEWAYS.
THAT'S CORRECT FOR THE MOST PART, THE OTHER LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE TO A HALF.
AND THEN THE GREEN SANDS ARE COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADS.
AND THEN IF YOU SEE A BLACK SIGN AT THE TOP WITH NUMBERS,
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THAT'S THE BEAUTY ROUTE.SO SECONDARY TO, UM, AND I WOULD STRONGLY, IF YOU WANT TO REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ROADS IN THIS COUNTY, DRIVE, DRIVING IN RURAL AREAS AND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GET EMERGENCY SERVICES, OR JUST GOING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN HAVE TAKEN BY GOT A HUGE HOLE.
THEY GET ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT UP A LOAD OF CEMENT.
AND OF COURSE AROUND THAT SEAM, IT GETS ANOTHER HOLE AND THEY PUT WHATEVER THEY CAN.
BUT WHEN THE RAINY SEASON IS TROUBLE AND STILL THEY, THEY LAY ON THAT PLANE.
THEY KNOW THAT EVEN WHEN THE COUNTY SOLAR PROGRAM, WHERE THEY SAY THAT WE MAINTAIN THIS ROAD HAS GOT TO HAVE A 50% RATE, BUT, BUT YOU WON'T NEED A 50 FOOT FOOT FOR A DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? WELL, BACK TO CARS AND PERHAPS NOT BE 50 FEET, WHY THEY PROBABLY, THEY WILL TAKE THAT LAMP EXTENDED FROM WHAT, 20, 22 FEET OR 50 FEET.
AND, UM, WHEN YOU GOT OUT APRIL AND THE HALFWAY GO HATE A LOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU HAVE NOW? YEAH.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME THAT WE WANT TO DO SOME THINGS.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE KNEES OF THE KNEE, AS WELL AS THE GLORIOUS FUTURE.
WE PLAN FOR THOSE NEW COLUMBIA AND IN GERMANY, BECAUSE WITHOUT THOSE WHO HAVE THE NEED, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SUPPORT AND THE WORKFORCE FOR THOSE WHO COME TO ENJOY.
I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON THAT POTHOLE, UH, NO BYLINE FRONT ENDS UP POTHOLE, WHETHER IT'S A LITTLE POTHOLE OR BIG PAHO IS STILL IS A POTHOLE.
AND, UH, WE KNOW THEM ALL TOO.
WELL, UNFORTUNATELY HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, SOUTH, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THIS STAT BEFORE IS THE 10TH SMALLEST STATE, BUT THE FOURTH ARTIST'S SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY THAT THEY MAINTAIN THE OT DOES NOW A LOT OF THE ROADS THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE, RVOT ROUTES, UM, OUR ROADS, WE, WE OWN MUCH LESS COUNTY OWNS MUCH LESS ROADS THAN, THAN, UH, THE STATE DOES.
SO WHETHER IT'S A STATE ROAD, A COUNTY ROAD OR A MUNICIPALITY ROAD, ALSO THE POTHOLE, THE PERSON THAT HAS PAHO ARE PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED.
CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT, WHO OWNS IT.
ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS GETTING FIXED.
SO, UH, SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER WORKING HARD, CTC IS DEFINITELY WORKING HARD, NO DOUBT.
SO, UM, AND I'LL GET HOW, UH, I'LL EXPAND ON SOME ACRONYMS. SO EVERYBODY IS ON EQUAL PLAYING FIELD LATER, AS FAR AS CTC AND OTHER ACRONYMS LATER.
SO THIS IS AT, UH, FERRIS ALLEN GATEWAY AT ONE 70.
UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERSECTION SAFETY.
UM, IT CAN BE ALONG THE CORRIDOR, BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IS, IS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AT INTERSECTION POINTS OF CONFLICT.
UM, SO THAT'S THE REASONS NOW YOU DRIVE ON REBA ROAD AND YOU GOT TO TURN RIGHT AND MAKE A U-TURN IS BECAUSE IT REDUCES THE POINTS OF CONFLICT, NOT REBOOT, EXCUSE ME, BOUNDARY STREET.
UM, SO ANYHOW, HOW MANY LABS? THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE HEARD OF, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I'VE HAD TO BLEND IT UP HERE IN A LOT OF UT SEMINARS.
UM, BUT HOW MANY, HOW MANY LABS IS TOO MANY LABS THAT ARE HIGH RES? SO THEY HAVE A THEME THAT'S CALLED TARGET ZERO DEATH.
NOW, HOW ACHIEVABLE DO YOU THINK THAT GOAL IS? PROBABLY NOT VERY ACHIEVABLE GOING UP ON 95, 95 AND 26 TODAY.
AND TO SIGN, I THINK IT WAS 1200 TRAFFIC DEATHS, UM, THIS YEAR, SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO THAT'S AND THE TWO MONTHS I WANTED THE SIGN WAS THERE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A SIGN THEY HAD LEFTOVER FROM 29 THIS YEAR, 2021.
REGARDLESS WHETHER IT'S TWO MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS, IT'S STILL 1200 TOO MANY LABS.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL EVER FIX THAT.
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MAYBE ELON MUSK FLEW.UM, BUT THE CASE IS THAT THAT'S A DARN GOOGLE AND THAT'S THE SAME AS US SAYING, WE WANT TO AIM FOR THE STARS, BUT WE ONLY MAKE IT TO THE MOON.
WELL, WE STILL WENT A REALLY LONG WAY.
SO THE SAME THING HERE, HAVING A GOAL ON HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR ROADS? IS THAT SAYING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND? ALL RIGHT.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT DID B FOR COUNTY LOOK LIKE 30 YEARS AGO? SORRY.
I SAID, MISS, I NEED TO DO GAMES.
I'M NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE ONE DRINKS A LOT DIFFERENT, A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES TODAY.
SO WE AREN'T MENTIONED TO A, ME ONE, THERE WASN'T EVEN AN EXITED IT DATE, RIGHT? IT WAS A TWO LANE ROAD FROM, FROM COOSA HAD CHANGED.
SO TWO LANE ROAD ALL THE WAY INTO THE INTERSTATE.
BLUFFTON WAS A, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO? THE TICKETS OVER ONE 70 FRANK, YOU MENTIONED ONE 70.
WHAT WAS ONE 70 BACK IN THE DAY, TWO LANES.
IT WAS A STOP SIGN AT ACE ACADEMY.
SO A LOT HAS CHANGED IN 30 YEARS.
OR THEY WENT ALL THE WAY AND THERE WAS THREE LANES.
WELL, UM, NOT ONLY HAS A LOT CHANGED IN BUFORD, BUT A LOT HAS CHANGED IN OUR WORLD IN 30 YEARS.
I'M NOT GOING TO TELL Y'ALL IF I WAS IN SCHOOL OR NOT, UM, OR WHAT GRADE I WAS IN, BUT THE INTERNET, THE INTERNET HAD JUST STARTED IN 19, 19.
I'M EVEN BARELY, I MEAN, TALKING ABOUT YOU DIAL UP AND YOU HEAR THE, THE PHONE SOUNDS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO SPEAKING OF THAT, THAT PHONE DIDN'T EXIST.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT 30 YEARS IS LIKE AMAZON, AMAZON, UM, AMAZON DIDN'T EVEN EXIST.
IT WASN'T EVEN A COMPANY YET, AND NOW THEY DELIVER STUFF TO MY ALL TOO FREQUENTLY.
THANKS TO MY WIFE, TO MY HOUSE EVERY DAY.
UM, GAS, ANYBODY WANT TO GUESS WHAT GAS WAS A GALLON 30 YEARS AGO, DOLLAR 20.
NOW THAT STATE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WHAT IT WAS HERE.
THAT'S NATIONAL, THAT'S NATIONAL.
UH, HOW ABOUT A NEW CAR? HOW MUCH THE NEW CAR COST 30 YEARS AGO? HOW MUCH DOES A NEW CAR COST TODAY? A NEW CAR IN 1992 WAS $12,000.
AND LASTLY, WHAT ABOUT, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WASN'T EVEN A TERM WASN'T EVEN A THOUGHT WASN'T EVEN A CONCEPT OF SELFIE.
SO WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS? WHO KNOWS? I HAVE NO IDEA.
I MEAN, JUST THINK EVEN MORE SO OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, HOW MUCH OUR LIVES CHANGED ONCE THE INTERNET'S COME OF OFF.
UM, AND ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES THAT DEVELOPED THE.COM BUBBLE A WHOLE BUNCH OF RAPID TECHNOLOGY.
AND I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND PROBABLY EVEN AT A MORE RAPID PACE, JUST TO SPOUT OUT A FEW THINGS.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THEY'RE PARTIALLY HERE ALREADY.
THEY GOT AI ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE INTEGRATED IN TRAFFIC, UH, IN THE SIGNALS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, UM, MENTIONED ELON MUSK EARLIER.
THERE'S A CHANCE WE DON'T EVEN DRIVE CARS.
AND 30 YEARS THAT WE'VE GOT, UM, UNMANNED VEHICLES THAT ARE DRIVING US OR ROBOTS, OR I DON'T KNOW.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS 30 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.
THERE'S REALLY NO TELLING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT ALL WE DO KNOW IS THAT WITHOUT DOING SOMETHING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF IMPACT.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE THAT JOSH CAN CALL THE TOWN AND SAY, HEY, Y'ALL COULD COME INTO HILTON HEAD.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OR BLUFFTON.
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UM, THEY FIGURED OUT THESE ARE GREAT PLACES, THE STATE OF MIND AND GLOVE AND THIS SOMETHING TO ENJOY.SO 30 YEARS AS LONG TIME, I USED 30 YEARS.
SO THIS IS SELFISHLY A LITTLE BIT.
I MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STILL WORK AND IN 30 YEARS, SO WHAT COULD GET DONE IN MY, IN MY CAREER 30 YEARS NOW, WHETHER WE USE 30 YEARS OR 50 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, UM, I SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IT JUST MATTERS THAT WE'RE THINKING TERM, FRANKLY, IF YOU PLANTED A TREE, UH, NOW WHAT WOULD THAT TREE LOOK LIKE IN 30 YEARS? WHAT WOULD YOURSELF, UH, HOW YOUNG WOULD YOU BE IN 30 YEARS? MEAN 30 YEARS.
IT MIGHT BE A 12 TO 18 INCH CAMERA.
I'D BE, PROBABLY BE FEEDING THE ROOTS BUT IN 30 YEARS I CAN SEE A MONORAIL GOALS NEXT TO EIGHT ALCOHOL FENCE FOR THAT ONE TOO HERE SEVERAL TIMES.
SO, SO SPEAKING OF VISION, UH, IF WE SAY SALES TAX, WELL, I CAN'T, EXCUSE ME.
I CAN ONLY JUST SAY SALES TAXES, OUR VISION, NONE.
WOULDN'T THAT BE THE EASY THING? AND WE CAN ALL PACK OUR BAGS AND PUT A COUPLE OF PRIVATE STAND AND CALL A SALES TAX.
WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THAT BE WORTHWHILE UNLESS YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEND IT AND THAT WAS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU UNLESS YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IN ORDER TO FILL PEOPLE, ONCE YOU WANT TO DO IS SAY, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT.
YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM THE TRADITION THAT YOU CAN JUST, HEY, TRUST ME WITH ALL YOUR MONEY THAT DOESN'T WORK.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO POINT AND OR PHRASE SAY, HEY, LOOK, I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOUR MONEY.
I'M ASKING FOR YOUR MONEY SO THAT WE CAN RETAIN THIS POT THAT WE HAVE, AND WE CAN KEEP YOU FOR GREAT.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL PROUD OF.
NOT JUST TODAY, NOT JUST THE ONE 70 TRAFFIC THAT WE NEED TO FIX IN THE IMMEDIATE NEAR FUTURE, BUT IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
UM, SO THAT YOU CAN BE SOMETHING THERE IT'S IN OUR GRANDKIDS CAN ENJOY IT.
SO SALES TAX IS NOT THE VISION SALES TAX IS JUST A TOOL.
IT'S A VERY GOOD TOOL BECAUSE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DESCRIBED TAKE MONEY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE GOING TO COST MORE AND MORE.
AS, AS THING AS THE WORLD DEVELOPS, AS INFLATION CONTINUES TO RISE, IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO DO STUFF.
CAN YOU DAYS? UM, BUT, BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD TOOL FOR US SINCE IT WAS A GENERAL STATEMENT, UH, RESIDENTS IN BUFORD COUNTY END UP PAYING ABOUT SOMEWHERE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN HALF OF THE MONIES THAT ARE COLLECTED.
AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT BUFORD COUNTY, RELATIVE TO OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE, A LARGE PART OF THE PORTION IS FOR PAYBACK OUT-OF-TOWNERS.
THEN EVEN CHARLESTON COUNTY, THEY HAVE A LARGER POPULATION.
SO THEIR BASIS PAID JUST AS MUCH OR MORE.
UM, THEY MIGHT HAVE A BIGGER THIS DAY, BUT THE TOURIST IS FAN, UH, OUT-OF-TOWNERS WITH PANEL HARDWARE, R AND B FOR CAMP.
SO LET'S SAY A REALLY GOOD DEAL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO I'VE TOLD PEOPLE THIS ABOUT 2 78 BRIDGE.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT A BRIDGE AT THE TIME.
THE DRILL WAS JUST GONE UP A LITTLE BIT SINCE THE PRIDE CENTER, BUT ATTITUDE $140 MILLION.
WE SAID, HEY, VOTERS, HOW ABOUT YOU? LET US BORROW $80 MILLION OR USE $80 MILLION OF SALES TAX MONEY TO PUT TOWARDS THIS BRIDGE.
WELL, IF WE USE 30% IS PAID BY, BY, UM, LOCALS, 30% OF $80 MILLION, AND YOU PUT MATH 1 24.
SO 24, UM, MILLION OUT OF 240 MILLION IS 10%, 10%.
SO WE JUST BUILT A QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLAR BRIDGE FOR 10%.
SO SOMEBODY SAYS, I'LL GIVE YOU $9.
IF YOU PUT IT IN ONE DOG, THAT'S A HECK OF A GOOD DEAL.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD METHOD TO USE VERSUS, UH, ALL THE LOCALS, JUST HIKING UP OUR MILLAGE RATE AND WE SPEND A $240 MILLION OUT OF OUR, OUR BOND RATING.
UM, BUT SALES TAX IS, IS A TOOL.
SO JUST LIKE IF YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE, YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE WITH ANY TOOL.
UH, YOU CAN TAKE A HAMMER AND YOU CAN BUILD THAT HOUSE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN TAKE THAT SAME TOOL AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU FOREVER.
OR YOU CAN MASSAGE THAT TOOL, OR YOU CAN GO TO THE HARDWARE STORE AND YOU CAN BUY YOU A NEW MED NAIL GUN AND YOU CAN BUILD A WHOLE COMMUNITY.
SO JUST IMAGINE WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU CREATE THE RIGHT TOOL.
AGAIN, IT'S ONE TOOL, THERE'S OTHER TOOLS IN THE CLIPPER THAT YOU CAN USE.
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UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS.SO ANYHOW, UM, I THINK SETTING THE VISION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO TELL PEOPLE OUT OF THIS ROOM AFTER WE LEAVE THIS, WHY WE RECOMMENDED IT AND WHAT IS YOU'RE GOING TO GAIN OUT OF IT.
SO LASTLY HERE, I'VE DONE A LOT OF TALKING, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SO AGAIN, I TOLD YOU, I, WASN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT NUMBERS TONIGHT OR PROJECTS WE'LL GET THERE.
UM, OR OUR ACRONYMS. I'LL TELL YOU ALL THE ACRONYMS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A TRANSPORTATION EXPERT IF YOU'RE NOT TRANSPORTATION, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE TRANSPORTATION BACKGROUND.
THAT'S GREAT TOO, BUT EVERYBODY HERE HAS EQUAL EXPERIENCE AND DRIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF MILES IN THEIR LIFE AS THE GUYS THAT LEFT AND RIDE WITH THEM, UM, TO HAVE ENOUGH VOICE ABOUT RUSE.
SO WHAT YOUR HOMEWORK IS, IS ONE TO BRING BACK TO THIS PIECE OF PLAY-DOH IN ORDER TO GET BACK IN THE ROOM.
SO MAKE SURE YOUR KIDS DON'T GET IT.
UH, AND SECOND IS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE WORLD THAT YOU WANT TO LIVE IN IN 30 YEARS AND BE FOR COUNTY, OR YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO EXPERIENCE OR YOUR GRANDKIDS TO EXPERIENCE AND WHAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE COULD THAT BE NOW JUST TALKING ABOUT, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE 30 YEARS AGO.
WE'D BE SITTING HERE TODAY IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, PLACE, AS FAR AS WHAT OUR WORLD LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
AND WE'VE ALREADY RECOGNIZED THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SIT HERE AND TELL YOU AND FORECAST WHAT OUR WORLD'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN ANOTHER 30 YEARS.
SO, AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SALES TAX, THERE'S WAYS TO CULTIVATE A VISION CALLED THE TABLE LONG-TERM PLAN AND STILL MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY ALONG THE LAKE.
AND WE'LL DESCRIBE THIS AS WE GET MORE INTO THIS PROCESS, BUT THINK ABOUT HOW DO YOU CREATE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY AND SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE, UM, ONE AND DONE AGAIN, HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN US TO BUILD THE BRIDGES? IT'S GOING TO TAKE US 11 YEARS TO BUILD AND NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S GREAT, BUT, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S LONG LASTING.
SO, AND I WOULD OFFER YOU TO THIS.
SO THIS IS MY CLOSING THING IS THE VISION IS JUST AS MUCH THE PROGRAM AS IT IS THE ACTUAL TO THE, THE SALES CASH PROGRAM.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, BY DEVELOPING A PROGRAM IS MUCH TO LIKE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT THEIR BIGGEST ASSET IN THEIR ORGANIZATION IS THEIR PEOPLE.
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T TAP TO.
HOWEVER, YOU'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS HAVING THE NEXT PERSON THAT COMES AND STEPS IN LINE.
SO THE BIGGER ASSET THAT YOU HAVE IS, IS NOT ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE, BUT IT'S THE FUNNEL THAT CREATES THE STEADY FLOW OF PEOPLE.
IT'S LIKE, MCDONALD'S MCDONALD'S IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING HAMBURGERS.
SO ANYBODY KNOW WHAT BUSINESS THEY'RE IN REAL ESTATE.
THEY'RE THE BIGGEST REAL ESTATE FIRM IN THE WORLD.
THEY OWN MORE REAL ESTATE THAN MOST, ANY, UH, ANY COMPANY.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SALES TAX, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT WHAT OUR MAIN GOAL IS, IS DEVELOP A VISION THAT WE CAN SELL.
AND ALONG LAST ENVISIONED THAT WHETHER WE DO A SALES TAXES FOR FIVE YEARS, OR FOR 25 YEARS, THE VISION STILL STANDS TRUE WITH WHATEVER THAT PROGRAM IS.
AND WITH THAT CHAIRMAN, I WOULD TURN THAT BACK OVER TO YOU UNLESS THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS.
JARED, I, I THINK THIS COMMITTEE IS GREAT AND IT NEEDS, WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS, BUT IF YOU FOR COUNTY IS SO AFFECTED BY WHAT IS AROUND US NOW IN PARTICULARLY IN JASPER COUNTY, WHEN THE TOWN OF MARTINSVILLE APPROVES 9,000 MORE UNITS, ALL OF ARGENT BOULEVARD, WHICH DOUG'S THE 1 78, YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY JUST APPROVED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER GOING TO BE.
WE'D HAVE TO RACING, BUT IT'S IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE OR HELL BUFORD COUNTY.
IF, IF THESE OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE NOT SOMEHOW INVOLVED YET OUR BUFORD COUNTY IS NOT YOU'VE RECOUNTED NEEDS TO BE WORKING WITH THESE OTHER TOWNS.
AND, AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR POINT, SO THOSE GUYS LIVE OUT IN TOWN THEN
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ARE 9,000 HOMES JUST ACROSS OUR BORDER.WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO SHOP? I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT THERE NOW, BUT SO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE ON THE ROADS WITHIN THE COUNTY, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP, PROBABLY BE FROM COUNTY, RIGHT? MAYBE SO WHEN THEY SHOP AND BE FOR COUNTING THERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T OWN PROPERTY IN BEAVER COUNTY WITH A SALES TAX, WE DO GET COLLECT THEIR IMPACT.
AND THEN THAT SALES TAX MONEY TO BE PUT BACK INTO THE ROADS THAT THEY DRIVE HOME, AS WELL AS OUR CITIZENS NOW, JASPER CANNON, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
THEY HAVE EXISTING SALES TAX AND THEY WANT TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A FUTURE SALES TAX.
AND THEY CAN USE, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A TOOL, BUT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER BOTH FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.
WE'VE GOT OUR HEAD GUY AT OUR COUNTY IS A PLANNING DIRECTOR BACKGROUND.
SO THAT'S GREAT AS WELL AS WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THESE ACRONYMS LATER, BUT WITH OUR NBU AND LATS AND OUR COC THAT LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AND THAT GROUP'S MADE UP OF JASPER COUNTY, UH, AND BEAVER COUNTY AT THE, AT THE MPO LEVEL.
AND THEN THE COG IS MADE UP OF JASPER, BUFORD, COLLETON, AND HAMPTON.
SO THERE'S INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS THAT ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
UM, AGAIN, SALES TAX IS JUST A TOOL THAT WE USE IN CONCERT WITH THOSE CHOREOGRAPHED, UH, GROUPS.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH JASPER COUNTY, UH, ANDREW FORD.
AND THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY YEARS HERE, UH, WITH JACKSON COUNTY.
UH, I THINK HARTSVILLE, UH, IS COMING AROUND ALL ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT.
AND I THINK ARE FINALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT NOT ALL ROADS IS GREAT GROWTH FOR THEM.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH.
NOT JUST ASSUMING THAT THOSE GUYS ARE IN LEADERSHIP POSITION ALREADY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IMPACT THEY'RE HAVING ON INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER THINGS IN THE AREA, ANDY, OVER IN JASPER COUNTY, HE HAS A STRONG PLANNING BACKGROUND AS WELL AS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
HE AND I WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER ON A LOT OF THINGS.
HE'S HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH JARED, UM, AND THAT'S BEEN THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT DISCUSSION WITH JACKSON COUNTY HAS BEEN OCCURRING FOR MEANING IN HERE AND HARLEYSVILLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO THE TABLE.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE COMING AND SITTING AT THE TABLE AND TALKING TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ONE 70 AND PRETTY MONTHS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S THAT, THAT TIDE IS TURNING A LITTLE BIT.
THEY, THEY HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, I DON'T, I GUESS, OR YOU SHOULD BEACON ON SOMETHING ELSE.
COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAT FUNDING NOT SAY HARVEST CTC, SEE THE JASPER COUNTY CTC PUT THAT MONEY.
I ALWAYS TRY TO PREFACE SESSIONS.
I PROBABLY COME FROM A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
A LOT OF TIMES AS PEOPLE FOUND OUT THAT THE CDC OR WHATEVER, BUT I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS, TWO COMMENTS, ONE OF THEM I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT APRIL THE 29TH OF 22.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT NOVEMBER OF 2020, AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED.
AND I THINK ROB AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE, WHAT, AND WE TALK ABOUT VISION.
I THINK THERE'S A STAR ON THE VISIONARIES.
I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT IT WAS A STAR VISION.
WHAT DOES THE FINANCIALLY CONSTRAINED LONG RANGE PLAN HAVE TO DO WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND HOW DO WE INTERTWINE? AND SO ON, WHAT DOES THE BUFORD COUNTY TRANSPORTATION ON INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE? BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S PROJECTING OUT THE 20, 45 SUMMARIZING HERE IN THAT VIRGINIA ASPECT.
SO I GUESS, I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT MAY BE AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO STORE OR MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A COPY
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OF THE LONG RANGE PLAN, THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT AND THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE BOOK OF THE BUFORD COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.AND I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS GOING TO APPLY TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.
AND LAST OF ALL, JUST A COMMENT YOU SAID ABOUT PEOPLE COMING INTO THE SHOP.
I THINK THEY ALL GO TO , THAT'S A REALLY LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THAT'S LITERALLY JUST BEING COMPLETED AS WE SIT HERE HAS ACTUAL PRODUCT, UH, PROJECTS AND PRIORITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE WORTH REALLY EXAMINING BY THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, THE, UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE, UM, I MEAN, TH TH THIS COMMUNITY, ALL, ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT ARE SPOT ON, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM DIRT ROADS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TH THE, THE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING A VISION AND AN OPPORTUNITY AND, AND PLANNING SHADE TREES FOR FOLKS THAT AREN'T HERE YET.
BUT ONE OF MY, MY THINGS AS IT RELATES TO THE WORK AND EVERYBODY'S TIME HERE BEING RESPECTFUL, UM, IS ACTUALLY NUMBER 10 ON THE RESOLUTION COUNTY COUNCIL PASSED THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION SHALL BE PRESENTED TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ADOPTION AND OR REVISION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE THING I FIND MOST TROUBLING IS THAT ALL THESE GOOD FOLKS TAKEN OUT THEIR TIME GOING TO COME HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO PARSE THROUGH EVERYTHING FROM ITS TO DIRT ROADS, AND IT'S GOING TO GET THE COUNTY COUNCIL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUTCHER IT UP ANYWHERE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S A, A CONDITION THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE ON AND WE CAN'T MAKE OUR RULES.
THEY CREATED US NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND THAT.
I CERTAINLY THINK GOING OUT, UM, THIS COMMITTEE OUGHT TO OUGHT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT DO TO COUCH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE STRONGEST TERMS POSSIBLE FOR THEM NOT TO JUST DO LIP SERVICE TO THIS EXERCISE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND JUST A LITTLE BIT, I THINK FROM KENNY.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A, LIKE YOU SAID, COUNTY COUNCIL CREATED THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS COMMITTEE CREATE OR CREATES A PRODUCT AND PRESENTS IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
WHAT COUNTY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR IS FOR THE COUNTY AT LARGE.
SO IF WE SAY, ALL WE WANT TO DO ON THIS COMMITTEE IS BUILT A THIRD BRIDGE TO HILTON HEAD, AND THAT'S THE ONLY, ONLY PROJECT ON THE THING.
WELL, THEN THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CHANGE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND NOT TAKE IT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A CROSS SECTION AGAIN, THIS THING HAS TO BE VOTED ON BY OTHERS.
SO IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE MASSES CAN SUPPORT.
UM, SO IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERATIONS THAT NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE GO PLANTING A TREE AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU PLANT A TREE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE YOUR, YOUR TOLL AND EFFORT IN A WAY.
LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU WILL, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO NOT START THIS EXERCISE OR THIS PROCESS SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TEAR UP A RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN OTHER TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEES ARE, ARE USED FOR A TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM IN BEAVER COUNTY.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT OUR COUNTY COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT BUTCH OR ANYTHING.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT VOTED AGAINST THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON COUNTY COUNCIL, BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT WE WEREN'T READY FOR A REFERENDUM IN 22, BUT CALLS LOST FAIL.
WELL, LAST BILL AND MY MIND, BLAH, BLAH, AND A SALES TAX FAILED, AND IT BRUTALLY FAILED, BUT CALL US TO HAVE TWO PROBLEMS. IN MY MIND, ONE PEOPLE VIEWED THAT AS A NEVER ENDING TAX AND TWO, THERE WAS NO PROJECT LIST ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT THE MONEY WAS GOING TO BE SPENT.
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WE'RE ASKING YOU ALWAYS COME UP WITH A GREAT PROJECT LIST THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND OUR COUNTY COUNCIL, CURRENT COUNTY COUNCIL.I CAN'T SPEAK TO PAST COUNTY COUNCIL, BUT OUR CURRENT COUNTY COUNCIL, THEY GET THE BIG PICTURE.
AND IF WE'D COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE, BRIGHT PROJECT LIST THAT TICKS ALL THE BOXES FOR TRANSPORTATION COUNTY VIBE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
I GUESS YOU WOULD PROVIDE THAT.
BUT, UH, WE GOING TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE PRIORITY STYLE IN MOTION AND HOW DO NICK? YES.
AND IS THAT, SO YOU'RE STARTING TO HIT ON POINTS AND AGAIN, THIS WAS NOT A NUMBER OF REASON OR A NEED.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN MOTION TODAY THAT MAKES THIS THE ACTUAL BEST TIME TO PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SETTING OUT.
UM, WE JUST COMPLETED THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE LAST YEAR AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, IT HAS A TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT.
THERE'S A LONG RANGE, UH, REGIONAL MODEL.
THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, WHICH IS ANOTHER TOOL, UM, THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THE SALES TAX RIGHT HERE.
AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A STAFF LEVEL AND OTHER ELEMENTS HAVE FLOATED UP ON THESE SAME LIFTS.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT STARTING POINT, UM, FROM THE LONG RANGE PLAN, UPDATE AND STUFF, THEY DON'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
ON A LOT OF, SO THE IDEA OF COMING UP WITH ROADS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GENERATE THIS FROM SCRATCH ROOM, GIVE YOU THAT DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND A LOT OF IT WILL BE KIND OF, YEAH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE HERE.
AND SOME OF YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, MAYBE NOT THIS ONE, MAYBE THIS IS MORE PERFECT.
AND A LOT OF PROJECT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED TO STATE AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY FROM.
SO IF THOSE THINGS GET FUNDED, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM, UH, THROUGH A ONE SANFORD REFERENCE.
SO WE NEED TO BUILD THAT PRODUCT LIST TO GIVE US SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
SO THOSE THINGS GET FUNDED SOME OTHER WAY THAT WE CAN GO ONTO THE NEXT THING.
I THINK PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SHOCKED AT HOW MUCH TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ABOUT PROJECTS AND JUST GENERALIZED IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN BEAVER COUNTY IN THE PAST FIVE, 10 YEARS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE STARTING, YOU KNOW, WITH JUST A BUNCH OF HOLES, ROADS, AND YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT, UM, COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS REALLY BLUE TRANSPORTATION SESSION FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.
AND IT WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
LET'S SAY PEOPLE WERE SITTING ON EACH OTHER'S COMMITTEE.
SO INSTEAD OF LIKE IN THE PAST WHERE ONE GROUP COME UP WITH ONE GROUP, YOU KNOW, SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE OTHER GROUP COME UP WITH SOMEBODY TOTALLY DIFFERENT THIS TIME, THERE WAS A LOT OF WORKING TOGETHER.
AND I THINK NO AS CRAIG BROUGHT UP, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROFESSIONALS, I MEAN REALLY DUTY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
SO YOU'LL HAVE IT AND THEN GO OVER ALL OF THAT STUFF.
I'VE JARED HAS DONE EXTENSIVE WORK ON ALL WHAT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WOULD BE IDEAL.
YOU WILL SEE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL LET YOU REVIEW THAT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THE BIBLE THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW, THAT YOU HAVE TO RECOMMEND THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL OF THAT DATA.
UH, IN THE NEXT MEETING, THIS WAS THE ORGANIZATION MEETING TONIGHT, UH, JUST TO SET THE STAGE.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO BRING UP WAS FROM A LONG RANGE MIND, ARE THERE ANY CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE GOING TO KNOW OUR CREATIVITY? WHAT I KNOW, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS LOW RES PAINT, COMPREHENSION PLAN, JUST SUPPOSE THERE WERE 10 PROJECT THAT THIS COMMITTEE IDENTIFIES THAT ARE NOT IN THOSE PLANS, BUT I SUPPOSE TO BE RIDICULOUS, I'M TRYING TO MAKE A POINT.
I MEAN, THEORETICALLY, YOU CAN AMEND THE LONG RANGE PLAN THE NEXT DAY.
ALL I'M SAYING IS WE NEED A STARTING POINT AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT INFLUENCE ALONG RANGE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS HAVE ON THIS COMMITTEE'S ACTION.
GET A COPY OF THAT AS YOU WILL, AND JOKE.
SO TO YOUR POINT ON WE'LL ACCOUNT,
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WHAT THE CONSTABLE WILL DO.I THINK A GREAT, IF WE'LL COME UP WITH A TOTAL PANIC ATTACK TO BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE NEEDS, CAUSE YOU NEED THE VOTES, ALL THE BEAT.
IF YOU COME UP WITH A LIST OF PRACTICE, THAT'S THE ONLY GOING TO HAVE VISUAL IMPACT OR IMPACT TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH SOME OF THEM DON'T PAY FOR COMPARABLE, BUT AT FIRST, WHY WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD BACKPACKS IF SUCCESSFUL, IT HAS SOMETHING FOR EVERY SCHOOL, EVERY EXISTENCE AM I THIS? SO INCLUSIVITY IS GOING TO BE ACUTE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SELL A PRODUCT.
THE OTHER THING IS LAST TIME, LAST NIGHT NEWS, UH, COVERED A SECTION IN THE NEW BOOK.
IT WAS THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT ALL THIS MONEY, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT AND THE DISTRICT SO MUCH ROADS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT FROM OUR DELEGATION, WHAT THEY GRANT TO DO THE PIECE OF, OF SPLIT THAT MONEY.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WILL NEED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT BUILDING GETTING MONEY TO PICK SOMETHING THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE TO BUY IT BEFORE.
WELL, AND TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, UM, SO I HAVEN'T BEEN WITH UT ON THURSDAY TO TELL THEM, HEY, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THEY'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT? THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
UM, HALF OF WE STACK UP THE PROGRAM THAT WOULD MARRY UP WITH THEIRS, UM, TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK EITHER LOCALLY OR TOGETHER.
SO I'LL HAVE SOME INFORMATION I'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ON THAT ACCOUNT AS WELL.
I LIKE TO KIND OF GET A STEP IN HERE FOR JUST A MINUTE.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S ON THE TABLE, I THINK THAT'S AN IMMEDIATE CONCERN IS WHAT OUR EATING SCHEDULE WILL BE, UM, TO JARED, HAVE YOU THOUGHT MORE AT ALL ABOUT, SO, UM, WE'VE GOT NINE WEEKS.
UM, SO IF YOU GREW UP THAT OUT AND IN TWO WEEKEND COMMITS THAT'S FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS, IS THAT ENOUGH? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, DO WE NEED TO MEET MORE FREQUENT THAN THAT? DO WE NEED MORE FREQUENT? AND THEN IF WE NEED TO BACK OFF WITH THAT ONLY CAN DO THAT.
SO IS IT A WEEKLY MEETING OF WHATEVER THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE IS THAT USED TO START WITH, WE PROBABLY WANT TO MEET ONCE A WEEK FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO WE GET DOWN TO REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE AND WHAT THE VISION IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ARTICULATE HERE, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN HAVING OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE.
UH, VIRTUAL OPTIONS BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T, WE WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT TO HAVE A HYBRID SETTING WITH, WE WANTED TO, I WANTED THE, EVERYTHING TO BE ON PERSON THAT, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE DINNER ONE EVERYBODY'S MEET EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE AND THEREBY FEEL CONNECTED TO THE GROUP.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO A HYBRID MEETING IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO THAT.
WELL, I'M SOMEBODY THAT HAS SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE CYBER DEANS NOW STARTED TO GO BACK TO PERSONAL MEETINGS.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE PEOPLE AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE MEETINGS IS DRAMATIC.
AND YOU CAN PUT PEOPLE AT THE TABLE TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER.
MAYBE WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO AS I GUESS, A HYBRID APPROACH, WHICH WE WOULD BE.
IF YOU'RE THERE, WE'D GET YOU ON, GET YOU ON ZOOM AND GET, I LIVED A VERY BALDLY.
VIRTUALLY SOMEBODY LEAVES THEIR VOICE.
I MEAN, THE PICTURES ARE, ARE HORRIBLE.
I, I NEVER KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO IT'S VIRTUAL MEETING ON THE CTC.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'VE CASHED IT IN MY VOTE OR NOT.
I MEAN, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE VIRTUAL, BUT THEIR TURN TO FOLLOW.
YOU DON'T WANT, I DIDN'T SAY I DON'T WANT IT.
WE CAN MAKE, WE CAN MAKE ZOOM AN OPTION, BUT WE WILL MAKE IT THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT AT OTHERWISE, CANNOT MAKE IT IN PERSON.
THEN YOU CAN JOIN THE MEETING VIRTUALLY,
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BUT YOU WOULD NEED TO LET ME KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON PERSON SO I CAN GET YOU.ARE YOU ONLY TO LET JARED OR CAROL KNOW SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE YOU THE WORKSHOP? ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE, I'M ASSUMING EITHER WE HAVE OUR CALENDARS HERE TODAY AND WE CAN PICK IS THIS TIME OF DAY WORK? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
THIS A GOOD TIME OF DAY, FIVE 30 TO SEVEN.
I WOULD SAY THAT STARTING LATER, FIVE O'CLOCK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU GOT TO CUT IT OFF OR IF YOU WANT TO GO IN THE MORNING, START EARLY RUNNING AROUND.
UH, I WAS PREFERRED WHEN YOU SAY EARLIER FOR ALREADY.
WELL, SOME OF US WORK GOES OFF.
WE ALL, WE ALL HAVE THE POCKET.
SO WE'LL SAY, OKAY, WELL, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT FRANK IS SAYING.
UM, WHY DON'T WE TRY, WHY DON'T WE TRY THIS NEXT MEETING SET UP AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME AT FIVE 30? UH, THE, I USED TO CERTAIN DAYS, RIGHT? SO I'M TRYING TO, I'M KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A DAY, AT LEAST FOR THIS NEXT MEETING A PARTICULAR DAY THAT WE CAN ALL BE HERE OR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS, OR ANY TUESDAY, YOUR, UH, ANY, ANY EVENING WE CAN ACCOMMODATE, UH, THIS ROOM.
THIS ROOM IS ONLY NOT AVAILABLE ON MONDAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING TUESDAY, THIS TUESDAY WORK FOR EVERYONE NEXT WEEK.
LET'S JUST SAY, HOW ABOUT THE 8TH OF MARCH TWO WEEKS FROM NOW? YOU KNOW, THAT NEXT YEAR'S IT'S MARCH 1ST AND MARCH 1ST TO MARCH 1ST DAY OF WOMEN'S DISTRICT.
I THINK DO THE FIRST FLOOR AND UNDERSTAND, OKAY, WELL, LET'S DO THE FIRST TUESDAY OF MARCH, WHICH IS THE FIRST FIVE 30 HERE IN THIS ROOM.
AND, UM, I'M GOING TO TAKE, I'M GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO MEET WITH JARED AND KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSE OF KIND OF WHAT OUR KIND OF WHAT OUR SCHEDULE IS.
I KNOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE AT THIS TABLE, UH, THERE ARE MANY, UH, SOME OF YOU THAT I DO NOT KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONFIDENCE.
UM, I HAVE MY BUSINESS CARD UP HERE.
UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, EMAIL ADDRESS, COME GRAB ONE OF THEM.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS.
UH, I PROMISED MY WIFE, I WOULD NOT BE CHAIRMAN .
DID WE SEND THAT OUT? DID Y'ALL GET A ROSTER? DID SEE WHAT'S ON IT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU KNOW, WHAT I, WHAT I HAVE IS THIS ROSTER RIGHT HERE, WHICH HAS THE NAME AND THE POINTING INTO THE EMAIL, UM, ABOUT BEING ON THE EMAIL OR WE'LL SIT DOWN EMAILS, BUT ANYWAY, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, I GUESS WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION, MOTION OPPOSITION.