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IT. >> I CAN'T WAIT TO. >> I CAN'T TASTE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO CANADA AND A BRITAIN WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. TO ROBERT GOLDBERGER PUBLISHED THIS DISTRIBUTED BY SO MUCH
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION I'LL MAKE THE MOTION RIBAUT MORE JUST LIKE SECOND MR. GLOVER BY THE SECOND STRIKE WHILE MR. GLOVER
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- January 18, 2021]
OUT OF TOUCH FOR YOU. >> YOU HAVE DONE THAT. >> YOU'RE NOT ALL THE MINUTES YOUNGER KIDS COME TO OUR MEETING THIS EVENING EVERYWHERE.
IS THE REVIEW NOTES A MOTION RECRUITMENT MAX MUST GET OVER SUCH THAT ALL SECOND NUMBER
DISPLAY OF OBJECTIONABLE. >> JANUARY KIDS GO TO 9 6 POST COMMENTS.
>> WELL, CUMMINGS LATER THERE'S NO ONE IN THE ROOM AT THIS TIME TO MAKE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[7. UPDATE FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DALE BUTTS]
>> WHAT THE ARE YOU DOING? THAT'S NO SMOKING OUT OF THE GOODNESS.
HERE ARE MY GUNS THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MR. VERIZON. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
OH, JUST A FEW NOTEWORTHY ITEMS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FINANCE DIVISION.
BEFORE WE GET INTO NUMBERS, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF.
HUMAN RESOURCES. TODAY IS A MATTER OF FACT ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE ATTENDING A JOB FAIR AT USC . AND THEY'LL ALSO BE PARTICIPATING IN A CAREER DAY AT BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL ON MARCH 24TH AS WELL AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS FROM THIS DIVISION INCLUDING REGISTER OF DEEDS ASSESSOR AND CFO FINANCE.
ALL WILL BE SPEAKING WITH THE NEXT GENERATION OF STUDENTS WHO WILL MAKE OUR WORKFORCE ON OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM TO HELP GUIDE THEIR NEXT STEPS IN THEIR EDUCATION AND OR TRAINING PATHS AND POSSIBLY A FUTURE WITH OUR ORGANIZATION THE REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE ALONG WITH COMMUNICATE NATIONS RECENTLY RAN A REMINDER ACROSS ALL OF OUR MEDIA OUTLETS INCLUDING GAS STATION TV THAT A FREE SERVICE CALLED PROPERTY FRAUD ALERT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL BEAUFORT COUNTY PROPERTY OWNERS.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE ALREADY WEB PAGE. SIGN UP FOR EMAIL ALERTS AND ANYTIME THERE'S A TRANSACTION INVOLVING YOUR PROPERTY YOU'LL GET AN EMAIL ON COURSE YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT WITH ADS RUNNING ON ON TV AND RADIO THESE DAYS WITH COMPANIES WANTING TO TO SELL A PRODUCT. WE JUST WANTED TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT YOU DO HAVE THIS FREE SERVICE AVAILABLE HERE AT THE COUNTY. ON MARCH 15TH OUR REGISTRAR MRS. GREEN WILL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION TO THE BLUFFTON MEN'S FELLOWSHIP AT ROSEHILL.
THAT WILL DEED FRAUD AS WELL AS ELECTRONIC TITLE ISSUES. SO VERY HAPPY THAT MS. GREEN IS GETTING OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'LL GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, SUE SIMPSON WHO PREPARED FOUR BATCHES OF W 2S FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY LADY'S ISLAND ST. HELENA FIRE DISTRICT THE FUNKY ISLAND FIRE DISTRICT IN BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS JANET ANDREW FOR PREPARING THE TEN NINETY NINES FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.
THAT'S A HUGE JOB AND BIG THANKS TO THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT GOT EVERYTHING OUT BY JANUARY 30 FIRST. THAT'S A THAT'S A MAMMOTH UNDERTAKING.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM HAYES AS WELL AS FROM PINKY. BUT IF YOU ALL HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO WRAP UP THIS UPDATE BY ASKING OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR DENISE CHRISTMAS TO COME FORWARD AND SAY A FEW WORDS CONCERNING SOME CHANGES TO OUR TRAVEL EXPENSE
FOR BUFFALO. >> THANK YOU, DALE. >> SO OUR TRAVEL EXPENSE OR OUR TRAVEL RECONCILIATION FORM RIGHT NOW AS OF TODAY TO ME IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.
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>> SO I THOUGHT I WOULD REVAMP IT AND GIVE IT A FRESH NEW LOOK.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT VALIANT STAFF THAT IT'S BEEN IN PLACE AND IMPLEMENTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THEY WERE THINKING MAYBE 15 YEARS I DON'T KNOW MAYBE MORE SO. SO WHAT I DID WAS I REVAMPED A SENATE OUT TO SARAH AND WHITNEY
ERIC HAYES. >> THEY'LL TALK TO JANET ANDREWS IN OUR OFFICE ABOUT IT AS WELL AS LORI SEXTON IN OUR OFFICE AND WE ALL AND HAYES AND AND WE ALL AGREE THAT THAT THE NEW FORM LOOKS MORE USER FRIENDLY THAN OUR OUTDATED FORM.
>> SO THAT'S WHAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS AN ADDENDUM TO OUR TRAVEL POLICY.
WHAT I DID IS I TOOK THE HANDBOOK AND FOUND THE TRAVEL POLICY.
AND SO I CITED WHAT WHICH PAGE WE ARE AMENDING. SO IN RED ARE THE CHANGES TO THE TRAVEL POLICY AND MAINLY THE CHANGES ENCOMPASS THE AREAS OF THE RATES, THE SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS CURRENTLY WE USE THE GSA RATES SO EMPLOYEES HAVE TO GO OUT AND RESEARCH WHERE
THEY'RE TRAVELING ABOUT PUTTING IN THEIR ZIP CODE . >> GSA DOT DOT GOV AND FIND OUT
WHAT THE SUBSISTENCE IS. EVERY TIME YOU ALL TRAVEL. >> SO BY ELIMINATING THAT ONE STEP COULD SAVE A LOT OF TIME. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT IN THE NEW POLICY THAT THE PER DIEM RATE WILL BE FOR BREAKFAST. TWELVE DOLLARS LUNCH.
SEVENTY DOLLARS AND DINNER AND TWENTY SIX DOLLARS AND THAT TOTALS FIFTY FIVE DOLLARS A DAY. THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GSA RATES.
ANYTIME YOU ALL TRAVEL SEARCHED JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE TOP CITIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA AS WELL AS CHARLOTTE AND ATLANTA AND SUCH AND IT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT.
SO FEEL FREE TO GO OUT THERE AND TEST IT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH
WITH CHANGE IN THOSE RATES TODAY. >> SO LIKE I SAID IN RED I WISH I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY RED PAPER SO I COULD FOLLOW ALONG BUT I DID NOT MIND BLACK AND WHITE. SO YOU KNOW OK, ALL OF YOUR DOCUMENTS IN THIS ONE.
OK, IF YOU CAN GO BACK UP TO THE TOP PLEASE. FIRST CHANGE WAS OK.
SO AND THE EXISTING POLICY IS IT DID NOT HAVE IN THERE IT WASN'T SPECIFIC AS TO TRAVEL WHAT TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS ARE AND WHAT WE REQUIRE. SO I PUT IN READ TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGISTRATION FEES AND HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS MAY. SO THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE PAID FOR WITH A COUNTY P CARD.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE HAVING YOU GUYS FILL TRAVEL ADVANCE REQUESTS, WRITE A CHECK, YOU KNOW THROUGH AP AND IT DOES YOU KNOW, COST A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY.
>> OF COURSE EVERY TIME YOU WRITE A CHECK IT COSTS. SO THAT WOULD SAVE SOME TIME AND MONEY RESOURCES BY PAYING FOR THOSE ITEMS WITH YOUR P CARD.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS COME BACK THE SECOND ITEM AND READ YOU HAVE 10 DAYS FROM THE TIME YOU RETURN FROM TRAVEL FROM YOUR TRIP TO RETURN YOUR RECEIPTS AND TO FILL OUT THE NEW TRAVEL EXPENSE RECONCILIATION REPORT SO YOU GUYS CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR YOUR MILEAGE AND YOUR SUBSISTENCE. AND SO THE NEXT DAY ON THE PAGE 47 THE NEXT SECTION IN RED FOR OVERNIGHT TRIPS PRETTY IS EITHER PAID IN ADVANCE UPON OR UPON RETURN.
SO IF ANYONE NEEDS AN ADVANCE THEN OF COURSE WE'LL ADVANCE THE MONEY.
IF NOT, YOU COULD JUST FILL OUT THIS YES OR OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITIES THIS BASED ON IT'S JUST NORM AND THE OTHER TWO COUNTIES I WORKED FOR IT WAS JUST 10 DAYS ALWAYS WITH
THOSE TWO COUNTIES. >> BUT WE CAN CHANGE IT TO 20 30 WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO. YEAH. SO JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN WILL
YOU GUYS DECIDE ON WONDERING SO. >> SMILE AT ME.
PROBABLY GET BOTH OF THAT. SO WHEN THEY MEET THAT I'M TAKING WHAT? WELL I NEED TO CHANGE IT. NO YOU GO. OK.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT TOO FAR PAST. WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO GO OVER 30 DAYS BECAUSE IT MADE CROSS OVER IN FISCAL YEAR. SO BUT WE CAN WE CAN UP TO 20.
NO, NO, NO, NO. OK. >> ALL RIGHT.
AND SO THE NEXT SECTION AND READ IF A CHECK IS BEING PRINTED FOR REIMBURSEMENT OPPOSED TO IF YOU HEFTY PAYMENTS TO EMPLOYEES BANK ACCOUNT PLEASE SPECIFY THAT THE CHECK IS SUPPOSED TO BE IS TO BE MAILED SENT IN HER OFFICE OR HILL FOR PICKUP.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS IN THE POLICY AS IT CURRENTLY IS ADOPTED.
>> SO WE WANT TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE THERE AND IF PER DIEM IS ISSUED IN ADVANCE SO AN EMPLOYEE WHO CAN NO LONGER ATTEND TRAINING PLEASE RETURN TO CHECK TO FINANCE YOU KNOW ALLOW AN EMPLOYEE TO CASH THE CHECK AND GIVE MONEY TO ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT MESSES UP OUR
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RECORDS TREMENDOUSLY SO WE WOULD WANT THE MONEY BACK EITHER THE CHECK RETURN RATHER THE CASH PAID TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND NOTIFY AND FINANCE NOTIFIED OUR EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED AND WE PUT THIS IN THERE THE EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND CONFERENCE OR TRAINING SESSIONS WHICH JUSTIFIES THE TRAVEL AND EXPENSES THE OF THE TRAVELPOLICY COULD RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION. >> SO I AM SURE YOU GUYS ARE OF THE SAME OPINION AS I AM AND AND I AND DALE WERE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE COUNTY'S FINANCES AND WELFARE. SO WE DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT EMPLOYEES ABUSING IN TRAVEL AND AND ACTING LIKE IT'S VACATION. RIGHT.
SO WE DEFINITELY PAY FOR EMPLOYEES TO GO TO THESE CONFERENCES AND TRAINING FOR
THAT FOR THAT REASON FOR CONFERENCES AND TRAINING. >> SO MILEAGE WILL STAY THE SAME WITH THE ADDITION OF A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORDING IN THAT PARAGRAPH.
>> SO ITS MILEAGE WILL BE REIMBURSED AT THE IRS RATE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE RATE RIGHT NOW IS 58 AND A HALF CENTS AND THEY CHANGE THAT EVERY JANUARY. MILEAGE MAY BE VERIFIED THROUGH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT THROUGH TOOLS SUCH AS MAPQUEST OR GOOGLE MAPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> AND THERE'S YOUR RATES BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER WITH THE TOTAL.
AND THEN A DETAILED HOTEL RECEIPT. SO WE DON'T WANT A HOTEL RECEIPT WITH JUST THE TOTAL IT NEEDS TO BE DETAIL PER NIGHT SO WE CAN GET THAT RATE PER NIGHT TO PLUG IN TO THE TO THE FORM MEALS WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR REGISTRATION TRAINING ARE NOT REIMBURSABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE FOR INSTANCE OF ORGANIZATION PROVIDES LUNCH
FOR ONE OF YOUR DAYS OF TRAINING. >> AND THAT IS SPELLED OUT IN YOUR REGISTRATION AGENDA THEN YOU WON'T GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT MEAL SINCE IT'S ALREADY
PROVIDED FOR YOU. >> IS THAT THAT OR IS THERE MORE TO THAT?
OK. >> SO THAT IS THE OLD FORM WHICH HAS MULTIPLE BOXES SEPARATING LODGING MEALS AND MILEAGE. AND THEN IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN. AND THEN THERE'S THE NEW FORM WHERE IT PUTS ALL OF IT JUST IN ONE BOX. SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR YOUR DATES AND YOU'RE GOING FROM FOR IT TO MYRTLE BEACH OR WHEREVER THE MILEAGE YOU TRAVELED FROM. AND THEN AND THEN THE DATES IF YOU WERE THERE FIVE DAYS YOU WOULD HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT DATES AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM YOU WOULD PICK FROM MYRTLE BEACH TO BE FOUR BACK TO BE IT WITH YOUR MILEAGE.
AND THEN THERE ARE FORMULAS BUILT INTO ALL THOSE SALES AND IT SHOULD CALCULATE EVERYTHING FOR YOU FOR THE FORM YOU KNOW OF A BLOG THAT'S FICTION AND AS WOULD TERM A LEAD.
>> OK. SO ALL RIGHT. SO AT THE ABOVE THE BIG BOX IS
A SMALL BOX. >> AND IF IT HAS ON THERE IF YOU DEPART BEFORE SIX THIRTY A.M. OR RETURN AFTER 11:00 THEN IT GIVES YOU THAT SUBSISTENCE. BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE NEED TO ADD A COLUMN FOR THE TIME NEVER HAD THAT OTHER COUNTIES. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT IS A THAT'S A GREAT POINT AND A GREAT SUGGESTION AND I WILL BE GLAD TO ADD ME VESSELS WITH VALUE.
WAS I LEFT BEFORE 630? >> YEAH. ASSUMING YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN ON THERE. SO YEAH WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT THAT ON THERE.
THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GOOD CATCH. >> APPRECIATE THAT.
THE OTHER QUESTION WAS A COMMENT I HAVE MOSTLY GOT THERE WITH REGARD TO YOUR ALLOWANCE
BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER. >> YES THE LUNCH IS THEY ITEMIZED EXPENSES BY THE WAY
WHERE THE CLAIM MADE FOR YOU MOUTH THAT'S AVAILABLE. >> OKAY.
THEY ARE ITEMIZED ON YOUR TRAVEL REIMBURSEMENT FORM WHEN YOU RETURN.
BUT IT'S NOT SO THE SUBSISTENCE AMOUNT IS A FIXED AMOUNT. SO IT IS TWELVE, SEVENTEEN AND 26. SO IF YOU GO OVER AND UNDER IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TURN IN MEAL RECEIPTS IF YOU'RE TRAVELING OVERNIGHT.
OTHER QUESTIONS YOUR COMMENTS WITH STU HAS A QUESTION. >> YEAH.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS KIND OF SET UP FOR TRIPS FOR THE MOST PART.
CAN WE ALSO KEEP A MONTHLY LOG OF MILEAGE AND TURN IT IN? >> YES.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A SEPARATE FORM THAT'S FINE IMPACTING.
YEAH. OKAY. NOT IMPACTING THAT ONE.
OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. EFFORT.
THAT'S RIGHT. >> AS SOON AS YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES WILL YOU SEND OUT THE NEW FORM? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF US ARE TRAVELING TODAY.
>> OH OK. >> YEAH, SURE WILL. I'LL MODIFY THAT WHEN I GET BACK AND THEN I'LL SEND IT RIGHT BACK OUT TO SARAH SO SHE CAN SO SHE CAN SEND IT TO YOU.
YES. VERY GOOD. I SPENT ALL WE CAN PUTTING ONE TOGETHER FOOTNOTES AND FASTER AS THE RECEIPTS EVERYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE.
>> ALL IT. I HOPE YOU'LL SAY THIS DOES TAKE EFFECT UNTIL AT LEAST OUT
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TOMORROW. MY LAST SEGMENT WE ALWAYS READ. OK.OK. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD LUCK. YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.
[8. DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF YEAR-TO-DATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FY 2022, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, HAYES WILLIAMS]
>> CLEARLY EARLY IN OUR PROGRAM VERY MUCH CHATTER MOVES TO NUMBER EIGHT ON THE AGENDA DISCUSSION PRESENTATION HERE TODAY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FISCAL YEAR TO MR. WILLIAMS TAKE AWAY COUNCILMAN. HI, HOW ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO. WE'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE JANUARY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THEIR HOME PAGE, THEIR REVIEWS ARE ON PAGE 8 9 OF YOU ALSO HANDOUTS. WE'RE TRACKING KIND OF WHERE I THOUGHT WE SHOULD BE REVENUES THAT WE'VE PUT IN TO DATE OR ABOUT 85 PERCENT OF BUDGET FOR THE YEAR THAT WE'VE COMPLETED IT SHOULD BE ABOUT 58. THE CALL THE DRIVER BEHIND THAT IS WE PUT IN THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUES. WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED 95 MILLION OF THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET. SO THAT'S REALLY DRIVING WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS COLLECTIONS
OF REVENUES. >> WE ALSO THERE'S SOME REVENUES THAT ARE DOWN LICENSES AND PERMITS AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES CONTINUE TO LAG.
I'LL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE TO THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES.
WE JUST GOT OUR SECOND QUARTER CHECK ON FRIDAY FOR ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHY THIS CONTINUES TO LAG. THEY USED TO BE THAT THE QUARTER WOULD CLOSE AND THEN BY ABOUT THE 20TH OF THE FOLLOWING MONTH WE WOULD GET THOSE REVENUES. SINCE THE CENSUS IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
SO IT IS CAUSING A LAG. IT WILL CATCH BY YEAR AND WE'LL DO THEY ARE THE YEAR END.
CATCH IT ALL UP. THAT BRINGS ME TO EXPENSES WHICH ARE ON PAGE 9.
>> YES, SIR. HER TO LENGTHENED IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE IT WAS DOWN BY 12 IN
SERVICE AND BUSINESS LICENSES ARE COMING IN RIGHT NOW. >> OK.
SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT NUMBER. CHANGE IT WILL ADJUST BY THE YEAR END.
IT'LL KEEP TRACK IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH AND SO THAT THAT NUMBER YOU SHOULD SEE IT SLOWLY CATCHING THE SUN ABOUT IT. I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH MISSED.
MOST OF THESE ARE VERY THE REVENUES ARE TOP SPECIFIC LIKE THE PROPERTY TAXES OF JANUARY 15. SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WELL I MEAN I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED BUT JULY JULY THROUGH THE VENDOR GIVES ME A LOT LESS HEARTBURN THAN WHEN I'M IN JANUARY 15TH AND THEY'RE NOT NOT NOT WHAT I THINK SHOULD BE IN THERE BUT IT SHOULD.
ANDREW STEVENS IS REALLY THE PROCESS DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
SO IT SHOULD TURNAROUND BY THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
GOOD MORNING. OUR EXPENDITURES ARE TRACKING KIND OF RIGHT WHERE WE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD BE. WE'VE COMPLETED ABOUT 58 PERCENT OF THE YEAR IN WE'VE EXPANDED 57 PERCENT. THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OUTLIERS IF YOU LOOK IT IS KIND OF THE IT'S A GOOD BUDGET GUY, GOOD LIVING. GOOD JOB MYSELF.
IT IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE. SO IT IS TRACKING YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME OUTLIERS THAT WE'RE GOOD WE'RE GOOD THERE AND THEN I HAVE THE DETAIL ON PAGE 10 THROUGH 13 AND SO IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO GO OVER IT WITH YOU.
>> I DO THINK IT WAS A GOOD BUDGET DEAL AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT SPENDING THE BUDGET THE
BANK. >> I WILL MAKE IT SURE IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> ON THESE RIGHT SWELLING HERE A YOU KNOW ON THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES DETAIL I APPRECIATE YOU'D HAVE A PERCENTAGE THE SAME RATE YOU DO IN THE OTHER.
>> JUST GIVING US THE VARIANCE A LITTLE HARD FOR US TO PICK OUT THE VARIANCE OF A
PERCENTAGE. >> OKAY. YES OR I CAN DO THAT.
I'LL HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT MACRO. THANK YOU ROBERT.
THE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AND I MIGHT BEGIN AS WELL. >> OKAY.
AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK COUNCILMAN FOLLOWINGS POINT. I'M HERE TO SERVE YOU ALSO THERE'S A SCHEDULE OR A FUND OR A SUDDENLY I WANT TO SEE YOU IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT OR SEE IN LINE AT ALL. YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. CONTACT ME AND I CAN SHED LIGHT
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ON SO LEEWAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. COUNCILMAN HERSHEL, VERY GOOD.THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. VERY WELL DONE. >> ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN ON THE AGENDA THROUGH BUDGET DAY. THANK YOU, HARRIET. ON THE SCHOOL YEAR 23 BUDGET
PROCESS WE SKIP 10 GOOD 9 SORRY AND NOT GO FAR ENOUGH. >> MY APOLOGIES IF I NUMBER
[9. PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL STATEMENT - FISCAL IMPACT: BEAUFORT COUNTY HAD A CHANGE IN NET POSITION OF $17,857,147 IN THE GENERAL FUND DURING FISCAL YEAR 2021]
THEY SAY IT'S THE PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL 21 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIALS.>> YEAH. SO WE WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT HERE ALL 260 PAGES. DAVID WHO'S A PARTNER IN CHARGE FROM BOLDIN AND JENKINS.
WELL, WE'VE GIVEN A DETAILED OVERVIEW OF IT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU ALL THE DEPTH TWICE WITH IT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AS I SEE THEM AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ASK THEM AND TRY TO ANSWER THEM. FIRST I NEED TO THANK ALL MY STAFF.
I NEED TO THANK YOU. IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY BECAUSE DOING A 216 PAGE DOCUMENT I'M GOOD BUT I'M NOT THAT GOOD. MY STAFF HELPED A LOT TO GET THIS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE DONE IT EARLIER THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
YOU SAID MORE GOALS FOR SELL FOR NEXT YEAR TO GET IT DONE EVEN MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY BUT YEAH MY MY STAFF THIS YEAR WITHOUT THE SO I NEEDED TO DO THAT AS I STATED BEFORE EXTRA WHAT IT WAS PERFORM BROWN GORDON JENKINS THEY THEY ISSUED WHAT I WOULD CALL THE LAYMAN'S WOULD CALL A CLEAN OPINION WHAT AS WITH WHEN I WAS AN AUDITOR WE CALL IT AN ALL OUT OPINION WHICH IS GOOD WHICH THEY DIDN'T FIND ANY MATERIAL WEAKNESS IN THE FACE IS INTERNAL CONTROLS
AND OR ANY REPORTABLE CONDITIONS. >> THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THE GENERAL FUND HAD A CHANGE IN THE FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 17 POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS WHICH WAS DUE TO A LOT OF 2021 WAS JUST A WEIRD YEAR.
WE'RE KIND OF IT EVERYBODY WAS PULLED BACK. IT WAS PEOPLE IT'S BEEN MONEY WE MADE MORE MONEY THAN WE THOUGHT WE WE HIT PROJECTED IT WAS KIND OF ALL OVER THE BOARD . I WOULDN'T SUSPECT TO SEE THIS GO IN THIS LARGER AREA.
WE'RE GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THAT'S JUST A ONE OFF EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF IT. SO THEN I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAD FAT WE HAD FOUR FINDINGS IN QUESTION CALLS IN THE 2010 AUDIT. AS OF THIS AUDIT THEY WERE ALL RESOLVED ALL FOUR. SO WE CLEARED UP ALL THOSE ISSUES AND THEN THE BIG NEWS IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FOR THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.
I THINK THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT BUDGET DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY ARE HEADED IN A VERY POSITIVE DIRECTION AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THERE.
BUT DAVID ERWIN WILL DO A MUCH MORE DETAILED DOVE ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM LIQUIDITY LOOKS GOOD TO CLEAR UP HERE AS WELL.
THANK YOU. I GUESS THAT TAKES YOU GET A NUMBER 10 DISCUSSION REGARDING
[10. DISCUSSION REGARDING FORENSIC AUDIT - FISCAL IMPACT: BEAUFORT COUNTY COULD REDUCE EXPENSES AND SAVE MONEY BY USING INTERNAL PERSONNEL TO PERFORM THE ACTIONS THAT WOULD BE PERFORMED IN THE FORENSIC AUDIT. IT WOULD HELP WITH FINANCIAL REPORTING AND TRANSPARENCY]
YOUR AUDIT JUST ONE I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE BIGGEST EXPENSES AND SAVE MONEY BY USING INTERNAL PERSONNEL. THE ACTIONS THAT WOULD BE PERFORMED IN THE FORENSIC AUDITTHAT IS IT IS A THREE WAY. >> THIS IS ALL I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE
UNDERSTANDS THE MAGNITUDE AND THE COST OF THIS. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY COSTLY TO THE COUNTY IF YOU ALL UNDERTAKE THIS CAN BE VERY COSTLY AND CONSUMING OF STAFF RESOURCES. WE AT THE STAFF LEVEL DO NOT REALLY THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY. WE'VE HIRED PEOPLE OR WE HAVE PEOPLE IN PLACE NOW THAT CAN MANAGE OUR FIXED ASSETS, MOVE THEM FORWARD AND WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL LET US DO THAT FOR THE YEAR AND NOT DO THIS AUDIT AND SAVE THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN CORRECT WHATEVER ISSUES THERE MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST REGARDING REGARDING THE SITUATIONS. SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
>> AND I'M IN ABSOLUTE AGREEMENT WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS A FORENSIC AUDIT IS A VERY SPECIFIC AUDIT. THAT IS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HIRING A FIRM BECAUSE YOU EXPECT YOU ARE GOING TO WIND UP IN COURT AND WE'RE.
WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT. WE JUST WANT TO AUDIT SOME PRACTICES THAT WE'VE DONE IN
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THE PAST TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY. SO WE SHOULDN'T BE USING THE TERM FORENSIC AUDIT THAT MOMENTS WITH THIRD I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S CAUSING THIS CONCERN.>> I JUST FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT IN THREE YEARS. I THINK IF THERE IS ANY CONCERN CERTAINLY A LOT EASIER TO DEVELOP A TEMPLATE INTERNALLY AND HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS PROVIDE AN INVENTORY IS ON HAND. THE ITEM THAT WE ARE SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON. AND THEN WE CAN SOMEONE CAN REVIEW THOUGH INTERNALLY AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAUSES THEM TO ASK FOR. BUT I DON'T AGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER FIRM COME IN NOR DO WE NEED TO ASSEMBLE A TEAM OF INSPECTORS TO GO AROUND AND CONDUCT AN EVENT FOR A DEPARTMENT. MY DEPARTMENT.
I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF RESOURCES AND A WASTE OF TIME.
AND I CONCUR WITH CHAIRMAN OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WITH THE COMMITTEE'S WORK.
I'LL TAKE A WANTED. SO WHERE THIS CAME FROM WAS THE INTERNAL OR THE OUTSOURCED INTERNAL AUDIT AS I CALL IT WAS CONDUCTED AND FINISHED SOME TIME AND THAT THE ELEMENTS POINT TWENTY ONE AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY IDENTIFIED WAS THAT THERE WAS NO FIXED ASSET
WAS THAT PREVIOUSLY MAINTAINED? >> NOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I'M GUESSING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER A LOT OF THE TAX MONEY THAT WE COLLECT GOES TOWARDS FIXED
ASSETS VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT, COMPUTERS. >> YOU KNOW THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR US TO SIT HERE AND SAY HEY, WE RESPECT YOUR MONEY BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS AND WHERE IT'S I DON'T THINK THAT YOUR FRIENDS REGARD IT AS NECESSARILY A GREAT THING TO UNDERGO.
IT COMES WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS. IT'S HARD, IT'S EXPENSIVE.
BUT I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE TAXPAYER BECAUSE WE CAN SAY TO THE TAXPAYERS WITH CERTAINTY FOR AN OUTSIDE PARTY THIS IS WHAT WE SPEND YOUR MONEY ON.
THIS IS WHAT WE STILL HAVE IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE. THIS IS WHERE YOUR MONEY WENT.
>> SO I THINK FROM ACCOUNTABILITY PERSPECTIVE IT'S A GOOD THING.
THAT'S A GOOD THING FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE FOR THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE WHAT WE SHOULD DO AFTER WE HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDIT LIKE SUCH A HUGE EFFICIENCY. SAY OH EVERYTHING'S FINE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'LL AUDIT IT OURSELVES. I DON'T THINK FROM A TRANSPARENCY FROM AN ACCOUNTABILITY PERSPECTIVE THAT PROPER WAY TO GO MY MR. CHAIRMAN CAN COME IN OUR PUBLIC
COMMENT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WELL, CHAIRMAN, I'M VERY FAMILIAR
WITH INTERNAL PROPERTY CONTROLS THAT CAN BE DONE. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE A SYSTEM BEFORE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS POINTED OUT THAT WE NEEDED INTERNAL PROPERTY CONTROLS. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE INTERNALLY WITH OVERSIGHT OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS ULTIMATELY ACCOUNTABLE ANYWAY. AND I I DON'T SEE THE ADDED EXPENSE NECESSARY BUT I DO THINK THIS WILL INSTITUTIONALIZE WHAT WE'VE NEEDED WHICH WAS INTERNAL PROPERTY CONTROL AND IT WILL TAKE WORK BUT WE CAN. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE
INTERNALLY. >> WE ARE IN THE PAST AND HAVING YOU ON OUR STAFF THAT WAS CAPABLE OF BEING ABLE TO DO THIS. YOU ARE CORRECT THAT YOU AUTHORIZE US THE FUNDS TO HIRE SEVERAL PEOPLE BACK IN THE FALL OR EARLIER THIS YEAR.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHICH NOW I LIKE VAULT BELIEVE IT WAS.
DO WE WE HAVE SOMEBODY NOW THAT CAN CAN DO THIS FOR US IF WE DID HAVE THE AUDIT AND IT DID
TURN UP THAT WE WERE MISSING STUFF. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GOING TO SAY WE'RE MISSING, YOU KNOW, A PRINTER OR YOU KNOW, A HAMMER OR A SHOVEL OR SOMETHING.
>> YOU YOU KNOW, IT COULD ARE A LOT MORE. BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT STUFF COULD HAVE BEEN MISSING FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT PURPOSE IT WOULD SERVE.
WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT THAT. WE MOVE FORWARD. WE DO WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP A FIXED ASSETS LIST AND WE WILL WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT STUFF AVAILABLE IN THE
FUTURE. >> YEAH. IF I'M WRONG.
BUT IF WE IF WE DID AN AUDIT AND THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE MISSING THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ADJUSTMENT TO BE MADE IN THE BOOKS THAT WOULD CLEAR THROUGH THE KAFFIR AND THEN WE WOULD BE TELLING THE PUBLIC HEY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. WE'VE GOT ACTUAL FIXED ASSETS ARE WE'VE MADE AN INVESTMENT. HERE'S WHY AND HERE'S WHAT IT IS CORRECT.
YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. HE HAD TO BRING THE ACCOUNTANT UP HERE TO RESPOND JUST TO ADD
A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT. >> WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE ON STAFF IN THE PAST THAT WERE ABLE TO
MANAGE A FIXED ASSET LISTING INSIDE OF OUR SOFTWARE. >> HOWEVER, BACK IN 2020 WE LOST TWO PEOPLE IN FINANCE, ONE OF THOSE BEING ELATION AND THE OTHER BEING ONE OF OUR
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ACCOUNTING SUPERVISOR. BOTH OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE THE TWO THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING OUR FIXED ASSETS LISTING INSIDE OF OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.SO WHEN THEY DEPARTED BEAUFORT COUNTY IT TOOK SOME TIME LET'S SEE A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR NOW FOR US TO REPLACE PEOPLE THAT POSSESS THOSE SKILLS AND WHOSE FOCUS WAS FIXED ASSETS.
>> SO THAT WAS THE REASON WE WERE DEEMED ON THE INTERNAL AUDIT.
>> IT WASN'T THAT WE NEVER HAD ANYONE DOING THAT. WE LACKED A YOU KNOW, A PASSION FOR KEEPING UP WITH IT OR THAT WE WANTED TO BE YOU KNOW, VAGUE OR OBSCURE IN OUR ACCOUNTING OR TRACKING OF COUNTIES ASSETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WAS SIMPLY ONE OF THOSE VACANCIES.
>> IT TOOK A WHILE FOR US TO FILL AND TO DEVOTE STAFF TIME TO.
>> NOW WE HAVE THAT WHICH IS WHY WE THINK WE CAN CARRY ON WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION
WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH AN ENTIRE INTERNAL AUDIT. >> SO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION. THE REASON FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ONE MORE QUESTION YOU POINT ME TO THE AGENCY. THE BACK HAS THE AMOUNT OF THE
WORK THAT WE RECEIVE. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
>> DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT BRANCH FOR ARE YOU WANTING TO KNOW WHICH FIRMS RESPONDED IN KIND OF AN AMOUNT? YES, BECAUSE THE ASSERTION IS THAT I WANT TO LET DAVE THOMAS COME AND RESPOND TO YOU AS WELL SINCE HE CHIEFLY FACILITATED THAT.
>> RFE FOR IS IT IN THE AGENDA SOMEWHERE? >> I BELIEVE IT IS BUT I THINK SHE'S FINDING IT FOR YOU COMMITTED. YES.
IT WAS ABOUT GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> DAVE THOMAS, DIRECTOR PURCHASING. THERE WERE TWO RESPONSES. ONE WAS AROUND THE EIGHTY THOUSAND ALTER PHASE AND IT WASN'T AS INTENSE. AND REMEMBER THIS IS AN ON FORENSIC AUDIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING OVER 5000 DOLLARS AND THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN. WE WANT THEM ONE OF THEM TO LOOK AND PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY EQUIPMENT BUT ALSO REAL PROPERTY. SO THE SECOND BID THAT WE RECEIVED WAS LIKE ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND THAT DID NOT INCLUDE EVERYTHING.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG LINE. THANK YOU.
>> THAT IS IT. BUT QUESTIONS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
I'M CURIOUS. >> WELL, WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE FROM YORK AND ONE FROM STUART. OK. THANK YOU.
I WAS NEVER IN I NEVER THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT FORENSIC AUDIT.
>> I WAS MORE IN FAVOR ALL AN AUDIT REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN OUR SYSTEM. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ORDER THAT I WOULD HAVE WANTED TO SEE AND WE'RE HAVING AN OVERSIGHT GROUP OR WHATEVER SOMEBODY INSIDE IN THE SYSTEM OR SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM NEED TO TELL US WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND NOT BE AFRAID TO SAY THAT TO US AS A COUNCIL IF YOU GOT STAFF ON BOARD IT WOULD WOULD POINT AND SAY DAVE IS DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND I'VE TOLD HIM TO STOP AND HE'S NOT DOING AND BRING THAT FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I WARNED.
WOULD YOU HAVE THAT IN STAFF YOU WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT AUDIT ? THAT'S THE KIND OF FLAVOR I WAS LOOKING FOR. SO THAT YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE MR. GREENWAY WHO'S THE IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR AND HE'S DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO TELL NOBODY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU FEAR YOUR JOB.
I THINK AS COUNSEL WE NEED TO KNOW THAT AND SOMEBODY ON THE OUTSIDE MAY BE WILLING TO DO THAT OTHER THAN YOU. THAT'S WHERE I COME IN THAT WAY.
WHETHER WE DO IT OR NOT, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS LOOKING FOR NO FORENSIC THAT WAS LOOKING FOR US TO FIND. I AND EVERY TOTN ASSISTANT.
AND TELL US THAT YOU'RE MISSING A T SOMEWHERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T CROSSED.
I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT. YES. YEAH.
>> NEXT ONE WAS TO PRESS MR. OUT YOUR HEAD. YEAH.
YEAH. I DO BELIEVE THE RIGHT TRACK TO CATCH UP INTERNALLY WHAT WE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND BUT I DO THINK YOU KNOW, IF YOU RUN ACROSS A CASE LIKE HALF THE LAWNMOWERS DISAPPEARED, IT MAY LEND ITSELF AT SOME POINT IN TIME TO A FORENSIC AUDIT.
BUT IF WE GET TO THAT POINT, IF THERE WERE A LOT OF BEING EXECUTIVE SESSIONS OR WE KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE REALLY AS JOE SAID, IT'S PRETTY MUCH CRIMINAL.
YOU ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO THE FORENSIC WRAP AND AT THEY'RE
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VERY SPECIALIZED PEOPLE IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY TO DO THAT ONE. ONE COMMENT I WOULD SAY THE REASON DOING THIS IS IT'S ACTUALLY TWOFOLD. ONE, WE'RE SENDING A DOLLAR'S VALUE OF THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO WATCH AND THOSE REALLY HAVE DEPRECIATION VALUES AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU TAKE EVERYTHING ELSE FOR LOW THAT BECOMES WHAT IS CALLED A CONSUMABLE. WE USED TO TAG ALL COMPUTER'S BUT THEN WHEN COMPUTERS BECAME SO USEFUL AS FAR AS YOU USE THEM AND THEN YOU THREW THEM AWAY THEY BECAME A CONSUMABLE.SO THAT'S THE KIND OF AUDIT I WOULD EXPECT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS EVERY SO OFTEN WE TAKE A PHYSICAL INVENTORY FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES BECAUSE OUR INSURANCE IS DEPENDENT UPON THAT AND DEPRECIATION WHERE ARE THEY? WE HAVE SO MANY BUILDINGS SO YOU KNOW THE CHAIRS IN HERE ARE HERE TODAY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR. THEY MIGHT BE SOMEPLACE ELSE. BUT WHEN YOU DID AN AUDIT, IF YOU HAD A OUTSIDE COMPANY COME IN AND PHYSICALLY AUDIT EVERYTHING THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY TAG EVERYTHING. SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
I THINK WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR THE SAME THING IS LET'S FIND OUT WHERE THINGS ARE THAT HAVE BEEN MISSING FOR MAYBE THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AND GET A PROGRAM THAT WE KEEP TRACK
EVERYTHING. >> YES, SIR. AS CHAIRMAN JUST TO MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE . WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING A LIST ON OUR SOFTWARE WHICH IS MUNIS THAT COVERS ALL OUR ASSETS OVER 5000 DOLLARS ON OUR SMALLER
ASSETS LIKE COMPUTERS. >> WE DO TAG THOSE LIKE VIPER AND YOU'LL SEE TAGS ON OUR COMPUTERS IN FRONT OF YOU. WE DO TRACK THOSE. BUT LIKE YOU SAID AT THE END OF THE DAY FIVE, SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THOSE COMPUTERS AREN'T WORTH MUCH.
WE DO SELL THEM SOMETIMES AN AUCTION WE ARRANGE EVERYTHING. HARD DRIVE AND SELLING BUT IT'S
JUST NOT WORTH ALL THE MONEY. >> YEAH. SO I'M OF THE OPINION THAT
INTERNALLY WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS. >> SO THIS WAS A DISCUSSION ONLY ITEM WITH GET OUT I'M GETTING FROM COUNSEL IS THAT WE DO NOT WANT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTERNAL AUDIT SO WE MOVE ON. I WILL MAKE ONE FINAL POINT OUT. IT IS ALARMING TO ME THAT WE STARTED WITH THE ASSERTION THAT THIS ITEM WAS TO EXPENSIVE AND THAT DOLLAR FAILURE WAS NOT PRESENTED TO US IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. AND WE STARTED TO MEET CERTAIN IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE WITHOUT HAVING ANY SORT OF QUANTIFICATION WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT POINT BUT WE CAN WE CAN MOVE ON WHICH TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN
[11. UPDATE FROM BUDGET DIRECTOR PINKY HARRIOTT ON THE FY 2023 BUDGET PROCESS]
ON THE AGENDA UPDATE FROM AREA ON THE BUDGET PROCESS. I THINK GOOD AFTERNOON.>> I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE TWENTY THREE BUDGET PROCESS CURRENTLY WEIRD YOU WELL KNOW WE ARE PREPARING A THREE YEAR VIP PLAN FOR TO INCORPORATE IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE AND AS OF NOW THE COMMITTEE HAS MET ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND WRITE PROJECTS WE ARE PREPARING THE DRAFT CFP BOOK FOR ADMINISTRATION TO REVIEW FOR MODIFICATIONS AND ONCE THOSE MODIFICATIONS ARE COMPLETE WE WILL PRESENT TO COUNSEL A FULL LIST OF FUNDED, PARTIALLY FUNDED AND UNFUNDED PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED RECENTLY FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.
TWENTY THREE BUDGET THE REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS I SHOULD SAY WE HAVE NOW RECEIVED ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET REQUESTS FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE. WE ARE REVIEWING ALL OF THE REQUESTS AND THIS SUBMISSION AND GETTING CLARIFICATIONS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS.
WE ARE ALSO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH FINANCE CLOSELY TO CONDENSE OUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS MOVING AS YOU RECALL LAST YEAR WE DID A LOT OF CLEANUP IN OUR GENERAL FUND.
>> WE'RE MOVING ON TO SOME OF OUR OTHER FUNDS TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE OUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THE COUNTER REVENUE FISCAL AFFAIRS OFFICE HAS ISSUED A MEMO ON MILLAGE RATE INCREASE LIMITS FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE A FOUR POINT FOUR POINT SEVEN PERCENT INCREASE DUE TO CPI INCREASING FROM CALENDAR YEAR CALENDAR YEAR 2020. THAT IS ALSO THE PERCENTAGE THAT REVENUE FISCAL AFFAIRS WILL BE USING TO CALCULATE MILLAGE INCREASE LIMITATIONS PLUS ANY APPLICABLE INCREASE IN POPULATION AS WELL. SO THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE WE STAND.
FOR ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REALLY? >> ANYBODY IN THE GLASS
[12. RECOMMEND FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR APPROVAL OF FY 2022 LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS & LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX GRANT AWARDS – FISCAL IMPACT: RECOMMENDATIONS OF $2,149,808 TO BE PROVIDED OUT OF THE LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUND AND THE LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX FUND]
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CHAMBERS LOOK VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MR. IT THINKS US TOO. >> ITEM NUMBER TWELVE ON THE AGENDA RECOMMEND FIRST READING OF AUDIENCE APPROVAL SPLIT BETWEEN 22 LOCAL COMBINATIONS AND LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX GRANT AWARDS THAT WILL BE NUMBER EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SENT OUT IN OUR RECOMMENDED AWARDS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON ANY OF US QUESTIONS WE JUST MADE. >> CHAIRMAN I HOPE YOU AND THEN YORK IS NEXT. MR. DAWSON LET MR. GLOVER KNOW AS I LOOK AT THE APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF TABERNACLE BAPTIST CHURCH FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE HARRIET MONUMENT. THE RESPONSE WAS DOES NOT BE ONE DID BECAUSE THE PROJECT DOESN'T MEET THE SCOPE OF THE SCOPE BUT ONCE COMPLETED MAKE CAN APPLY FOR AJAX.
AND CAN YOU ELABORATE ON ON WHY THAT POSITION IS THAT IT DOESN'T FIT THE SCOPE?
CAN YOU CAN YOU GIVE SOME CLARIFICATION? >> IN DISCUSSIONS IT WAS SORT OF DISCUSSED THAT THE STATUE ITSELF PERHAPS WOULD NOT BE AS BIG OF A TOURIST DRAW FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE ASKING FOR. THEY DID HAVE SOME FUNDS IN THEIR REQUEST FOR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING OF THE STATUE TO BRING FOLKS HERE ONCE IT IS BUILT. SO THE COMMENTS ON THIS SPREADSHEET IS RELATED TO ONCE THE STATUE IS COMPLETED WE COULD AWARD SOME MARKETING PROMOTIONS FUNDS FOR THAT TOURISM OF THE STATUE. WE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE STATUE WAS UNCOVERED ELIGIBLE
SPOTS UNDER THE ATTACK SO ORGANIZED THAT WE HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S MORE SUBJECTIVE, RIGHT? THAN IT IS ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. IS IT NOT SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BUT WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE CODE FOR WHAT OUR ALLOWABLE EXPENSES FOR THESE FUNDS AND COMPARE THAT AGAINST THE APPLICATION ABOUT THEM JUSTIFYING HOW WE GENERATE
TOURISM FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND MADE THOSE DETERMINATIONS. >> THE YOU KNOW THAT THIS TIME HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION TO SAY TO YOU THAT MAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE DO RIGHT NOW TO THE ROBERT SMALLS BUST ON THEIR FACILITY. AND NEXT QUARTER THAT WOULD BE THE HARRIET TUBMAN MONUMENT. AND WE HAVE THAT TYPE TOURIST GENERATED.
THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS BUT THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR? YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF APPLICANTS THAT INCLUDE YOU KNOW, HERE'S HOW MANY TOURISTS
WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR. >> WE EXPECT IT TO INCREASE BY X AMOUNT BY IMPLEMENTING THIS PROJECT AND SOME APPLICATIONS HAVE MUCH MORE DETAIL THAN OTHERS.
>> RIGHT. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE WITH THE RAIL SMALL BUS NEXT DOOR THAT WOULD BE THE HARRIET TUBMAN MONUMENT WHICH WILL GENERATE EVEN MORE FLOW TOURISM IN THAT AREA. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DON'T THINK THE CHURCH AT THIS TIME HAS ACTUALLY THEY CAN DO THAT TO USE EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY STOP BY THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE PASS BY THE OLD TIME. THEY'RE NOT TELLING THEM THE BUY OF IDEA CALLING THEM BUT THEY ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THAT.
THE APOSTLE ROBERT SMALLS AND THIS PARTICULAR MONUMENT FOR HARRIET TUBMAN WILL EVEN INCREASED TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MEASURE THE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD MEASURE THAT AND MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE. BUT PROMOTING IT IS ONE THING HAVING A MONUMENT THERE. TO ME MEANS THAT WE ARE REALLY INVESTING IN THAT THAT THAT COMMUNITY AT THAT SITE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND VERY DISTURBING I'LL SAY WAS THAT WHEN THEY HAD THE BUS OF RATHER SMALL THAT WAS NOT THE FIRST SITE FOR THAT BUS.
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NOBODY WANTED THAT BUS AND TABERNACLES STEPPED UP AND SAID WE'LL PUT IT HERE AT THE CHURCH . I HATE FOR THIS TO GO NEGATIVELY AT THIS TIME.SO I DESERVE SOME INCLUSION OF THAT REQUEST AT THIS TIME. SO I PROBABLY WILL VOTE NEGATIVE TOO NEGATIVELY TO THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THAT CAVEAT THERE BEING SAID.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT IS THIS AND A LITTLE BIT BEYOND JUST BEING ABLE TO PROVE NUMBERS AS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD GO TO THE SITE.
>> IT BOILS DOWN TO THE LOCAL A TAX ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THE ONLY THING THAT ARE ELIGIBLE ARE A CULTURAL TOURISM RECREATION BUILDINGS OR FACILITY.
AND YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT SURE THAT A STATUE TO LOOK INTO THAT ARE A MONUMENT WOULD FIT THE
DEFINITION OF EITHER A BUILDING ARE A FACILITY. >> YOU ARE HIS COUNTY COUNCIL WHENEVER THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE TO ME I BASICALLY FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT AN ISSUE THAT WE COULD FUND FOR A STATUE. YOU ARE HIS COUNSEL IF YOU WANT US TO ALLOCATE SOME FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WE THINK THIS IS A FACILITY. THIS IS A BUILDING.
IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT IS A STATUE COMPORTS WITH THAT DEFINITION BECAUSE THERE IS REALLY NO DEFINITION IN THE CODE AND THE LOOK BOARD THAT I SAW THAT TALKED ABOUT A BUILDING FACILITY TYPICALLY IN MY MIND A BUILDING OR FACILITY IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOT TO.
>> THINGS LIKE THAT NOT A NOT AN INDIVIDUAL NOT TREATED YOU WOULD ACTUALLY RECEIVE AGAIN AS PART OF THE DEFINITION WHERE THEY COULD BE NOBODY IN THIS COUNCIL IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE OF THIS. BUT I SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE COULD GET DECENT LOOK AT THAT. OK. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CHRIS STAY HERE AS WELL
GUYS IN PERSON. >> I'LL LOOK AFTER YOU. >> RIGHT.
I'M SORRY. AFTER MY VERSION OF . I THINK I UNDERSTAND.
BUT WHY WASN'T SELECTED ANNUAL BOOK SALE FOR FRIENDS OF COUNT BEFORE A LIBRARY.
BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON IT SAID INSTALLATION ON A FACILITY OWNED BY ANOTHER ENTITY WAS QUESTIONABLE BECAUSE IT WAS THAT APPLICATION WAS THE NUMBERS.
>> OH, WHICH ONE OF THE 13 WERE 13? THREE SITES ARE ON THE LIST SAYS. THEIR APPLICATION WAS TO INSTALL PERMANENT RAIN GUARDS AND HALF A MILLION BUCKS CITY FOR PARK. WE DON'T TO.
YES, I GOT IT. THANK YOU. MR. ROBERTS.
>> YEAH. LET ME GO BACK TO THE STATUTE FOR HARRIET TUBMAN.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT FITS OR DOESN'T FIT DOES SEEM TO ME THOUGH THAT SHE'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HISTORY IN THIS COUNTY AND IN SOME FORM IF WE CAN HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN WITH SOME KIND OF A CONTRIBUTION WHEREVER WE GET THE FUNDS. I THINK WE OUGHT TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ANOTHER CHAIRMAN. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. YES, MA'AM.
I KNOW THERE WAS A PRIVATE FUND DRIVE FOR THE HARRIET TODMAN STATUE.
DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'VE RAISED TODAY IN THAT PRIVATE IF ANYONE?
>> I DON'T RECALL A SPECIFIC NUMBER. I KNOW THEIR TOTAL BUDGET FOR THIS WAS 501 TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND SO THEY REQUESTED TO NINETY FROM US WHICH WOULD CLOSE THE GAP FROM THE MONEY THEY HAVE RAISED VERSUS THE TOTAL COST.
>> OK. THANK YOU. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM COUNSEL ON IT NOT TO MENTION I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> VERY GOOD MOTION BY
COUNCILMAN ROBERTS. >> WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND MR. CHAIRMAN
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LLEWELLYN. >> WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL GO
AHEAD AND REVERSED ANY OBJECTION. >> I KNEW THAT COUNCILMAN DAWSON KNEW ABOUT ALTHOUGH GLOVER OVER AND ALSO LIFTED TO NO VOTES ON THE OF SARA.
>> I THINK THAT PUTS US AT 5 3 6 4 6 3. >> YEAH.
WHO IS THE THIRD 6 2 6 2 7 2 3 IN A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. >> THAT ALWAYS HELPS.
>> OK, LET'S DO THAT. BUT RODMAN YES. WELL I GUESS THAT'S WHAT
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MACCALLUM YES. >> THAT'S BEEN AWESOME. OH THAT'S WHEN GASMAN YES.
COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD. YES. COUNCILMAN GLOVER.
>> NO. I MEAN YES. COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE.
>> IF I'M SORRY, MRS. FARGO. >> YEAH. SO IT 7 SEVEN TO 2.
>> VERY. THAT BRINGS TO ITEM NUMBER 13 ON THE AGENDA.
>> I RECOMMEND FIRST READING OF AN AUDIENCE OF THE COUNCIL FOR COUNTY ESTABLISHING ENDED UP AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE AND DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE AND THAT WILL BE POWERED BY
[13. RECOMMEND FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA ("COUNCIL") ESTABLISHING AND ADOPTING AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES (“EMS”) DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE ("IMPACT FEE") TO BE IMPOSED ON ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND; TO ENSURE THAT EMS FACILITIES (EMS STATIONS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES) WILL BE AVAILABLE AND ADEQUATE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEED EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY (EXCEPT WITHIN HILTON HEAD ISLAND) BASED ON THE COUNTY’S LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS FOR EMS FACILITIES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN (CIP), AND TO ASSIG]
[14. RECOMMEND FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR APPROVAL OF A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 82: IMPACT FEES, ARTICLE I, IN GENERAL; ARTICLE II, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE PROCEDURES; ARTICLE III, PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES; ARTICLE V, LIBRARY FACILITIES; ARTICLE VI, FIRE FACILITIES; AND EFFECTIVE DATES]
MR. GREENWAY. >> THIS IS CHUCK ATKINSON SIR. I'M GOING TO COVER THAT ONE.
AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COVER ITEM 14 WHICH IS GENERAL PROVISION UPDATES PARKS AND REC LIBRARY ENVIRONMENTS ARE ALL THESE I LIKE TO COVER BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. YES PLEASE. IF ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THESE PARTICULAR
IMPACT. >> THESE PARTICULAR VISE STUDY WAS PRESENTED IN AUGUST OF 2020 . SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS START BY RECAPPING IN VERY BROAD TERMS PARTICULAR BY STUDY IN PARTICULAR BEFORE FEES THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT. AND THEN THE THREE METHODOLOGIES VERY QUICKLY THAT ARE USED IN THE SERVICE AREAS RELATED TO THE FOR FEES. SO PARKS AND REC THERE ARE TO SERVICE AREAS NORTH AND SOUTH AND ABROAD. THE COST ALLOCATION METHODOLOGY FOR THIS IS POPULATION GROWTH, THE LIBRARY FEE THERE WILL BE TWO SERVICE AREAS ONE NORTH, ONE SOUTH. AND THAT IS ALSO POPULATION COST ALLOCATION.
THE METHODOLOGY IS USED TO DEVELOP THAT M.S. IS A COUNTY WIDE DISTRICT OR COLLECTION AREA AND IT USES TWO DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES. ONE IS POPULATION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL FEED AND THEN VEHICLE TRIPS FOR THE TRIP GENERATION TABLES AS WE ALSO KNOW THEM FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL AND THEN FIRE IS A LITTLE UNIQUE.
WE HAVE IGNORED THE BROAD SERVICE AREA AND THE BLUFFTON FIRE SERVICE AREA AND THAT THEY USE THE EU EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNIT FORMULARY OR METHODOLOGY FOR DETERMINING THAT.
I'LL GET INTO WHAT THAT SPECIFICALLY ANSWERED IN JUST A SECOND IF YOU CAN WORK OUT THE
FIRST LINE FOR NEW ANYWAY TO MAKE THAT BIGGER. >> SO THESE SLIDES I TOOK OUT TISCHLER VICE'S PRESENTATION THAT THEY MADE AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE RELEVANT BECAUSE THEY BREAK DOWN A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE CURRENT FEE THAT WE HAVE AND THEN THEIR METHODOLOGY AND WHAT THE NEW FEE IS GOING. SO IT'S OKAY. I WANT TO WALK THROUGH FROM THE TOP LEFT WHERE IT SAYS NORTH OF THE BROAD SERVICE AREA. THEY USED IMPROVEMENT COST PER PERSON REGIONAL PARKS, COMMUNITY PARKS, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, RECREATION FACILITIES AND THEY CAME UP WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT BASED ON PROJECTED GROWTH AND THE SEA IP LIST AND CAME UP WITH A THREE HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN DOLLAR PER PERSON STARTING POINT.
>> IF YOU GO DOWN DIRECTLY BELOW THAT YOU'LL SEE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL ONLY FEED. THE SECOND COLUMN IS PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD THE FIRST COLUMN AND I INTENTIONALLY DID THOSE BACKWARDS IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE.
>> SO IF YOU TAKE THE IMPROVEMENT COST PER PERSON THE MULTIPLIER PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD FOR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS THE MAXIMUM SUPPORT WILL FEED FOR THE
TOTALS. >> THE IP LIST IS FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS.
AND CURRENTLY THAT FEE IS THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE DOLLARS. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THE FOOTNOTE WHICH IS FOOTNOTE 1 THAT SAYS FEES LISTED IN THE FEED LISTED IS AN AVERAGE OF THE FEES FOR THE CURRENT SERVICE AREA AND NORTH OF THE BROAD THERE ARE MULTIPLE
CURRENT SERVICE AREAS. >> AND ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES IT'S VERY EASY TO GET DOWN IN THE WEEDS AND I'M GOING TO TRY MY BEST NOT TO DO THAT.
BUT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE THE PARK FEE FOR BLUFFTON AREA IS THIRTEEN EIGHTY FIVE CURRENTLY FOR LADY'S ISLAND IT'S FOURTEEN TWENTY NINE FOR DWELLING UNIT AND THIS IS ANY SIZE DWELLING UNIT FOR PORT ROYAL IT'S EIGHTY ONE DOLLARS AND FOR SALE AND FOR IF IT'S 700 SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS. SO THAT FOOTNOTE REPRESENTS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT . IT'S THE AVERAGE BUT WHEN WE GET DISCUSSION OF WHETHER THE FEES GOING UP OR DOWN IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT AREA YOU'RE IN. WE'RE GOING FROM MULTIPLE
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SERVICE AREAS TO JUST TWO. I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. SO IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THAT LIST WE CAN LOOK AT IT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. LET'S TAKE A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THAT WILL BE IN THE HOUSING UNITS SQUARE FOOT SECTION 1750 ONE TO 2000.THE MULTIPLIER BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENT COST PER PERSON IS 2.5 AND THAT WOULD THAT FEE FOR THAT SIZE HOUSE BASED ON THAT OCCUPANCY IS EIGHT HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT DOLLARS AS COMPARED
TO THE AVERAGE OF 321. >> BUT AGAIN IF YOU'RE SOUTH OF THE ROAD GO DOWN IF YOU'RE NORTH OF THE ROAD AND YOUR AREA IT WOULD GO TO BUT OKAY WITH THAT SO FAR LET'S GO OVER TO THE SOUTH WITH THE BROAD CALLED SAME IDEA OF REGIONAL PARKS, COMMUNITY PARKS, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, RECREATION FACILITIES THE IMPROVEMENT COST PER PERSON IT'S TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY
FIVE DOLLARS. >> AGAIN THE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS THE MULTIPLIERS ONE POINT TWO THE NEW FEE WOULD BE TO 82 AND THE CURRENT FEE IS 671 JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THE MULTIPLIER IS TWO POINT TWO IF YOU WOULD BE 517 AND THE CURRENT VIEW 671 AGAIN THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF THOSE AREAS. SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE
LIBRARY IMPACT FEE. >> THIS IS ALSO COST PER PERSON.
SO WE HAVE LIBRARY BRANCHES LIBRARY JUST NORTH OF THE BROAD LIBRARY LAND AUTOMOBILES THE TOTAL PER PERSON 260 ONE DOLLARS WE TAKE THE SAME THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT MULTIPLIERS ONE POINT FOR THE MAXIMUM SUPPORTABLE FEE FOR THAT SIZE HOUSE IS TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS. THAT CURRENT FEE IS FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS.
AND AGAIN THIS ONE IS NOT AN AVERAGE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE SERVICE AREA IN NORTH AND ONE SARA SOUTH. SO THIS IS THE TRUE FEE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A REDUCTION IN THAT FEE ALL THE WAY TO A 30 500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND ONCE YOU GET UP OVER THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED IT'LL BE A VERY MODEST INCREASE NORTH OF THE SOUTH WITH THE BROAD THE PER PERSON COST ONE HUNDRED TWENTY SIX DOLLARS AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN THE VERY RIGHT HAND COLUMN YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S A REDUCTION ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LIST ALREADY WITH A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THERE'LL BE A HUNDRED FIFTY ONE DOLLARS VERSE FIVE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THREE NO EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT. >> RIGHT.
>> SO IMMENSE THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO BECAUSE THIS IS A BRAND NEW IMPACT.
>> SO THAT'S WHEN IT IS DONE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. THE RESIDENTIAL.
NO I'M SORRY. IT IS COST PER NONRESIDENTIAL VEHICLE TRIP AND COST PER PERSON. SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES ONE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND ONE FOR NONRESIDENTIAL. WE'LL COVER RESIDENTIAL FIRST.
SO WE TOOK THE E M S FACILITIES AND E M S VEHICLES CAME UP WITH A PER PERSON COST THAT'S SEVENTY THREE DOLLARS GO TO THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN WHERE SAYS RESIDENTIAL A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OR LESS HOUSE IS A NINETY FIVE DOLLAR FEE IF YOU GO TO THE TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THE MULTIPLIER IS TWO POINT THREE TWO AND IT'S A HUNDRED SIXTY NINE DOLLARS SO IT'S A VERY IT'S A NOMINAL FEE FOR THAT THE COMMERCIAL OR NONRESIDENT DIGITAL WHICH WOULD COVER RETAIL OFFICE SERVICE INDUSTRIAL INSTITUTE IS COVERED BY THE TRICK GENERATION DANIELS OR THE COST PER NONRESIDENTIAL VEHICLE TRIP BASED ON EACH ONE OF THOSE
OCCUPANCY TYPE. >> SO TRIPS PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR RETAIL WOULD BE FOURTEEN POINT THREE FIVE TIMES THE TWENTY SIX IS THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE AND INSTITUTIONAL THE MULTIPLIERS FIVE POINT THREE SIX WHICH WOULD BE ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE DOLLARS PER THOUSAND SQUARE OF INSTITUTIONAL SPACE FIRING BACK VS FIRING BACK THESE ARE CALCULATE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND EXACTLY WHAT AN EEVEE YOU REPRESENT BECAUSE THEY USE THE EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNITS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND
NONRESIDENTIAL APPLICATIONS. >> THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN REALLY GET MY HEAD AROUND IT IS TO SAY THAT IT'S AVERAGE MILES AND WITH AN AVERAGE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IT JUST REPRESENTS A PLACE ALL AND THEN THEY USE MULTIPLIERS AND FORMULARIES TO TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT OUT FOR THE DIFFERENT USES. SO I'LL START WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS COST PER EDI YOU THE FIRE STATIONS THIS IS NORTH OF THE BROAD FIRE STATIONS ADMIN MAINTENANCE FACILITIES AND FIRE APPARATUS. THE TOTAL EU IS ONE THOUSAND
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ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT DOLLARS. SO FOR RESIDENTIAL THE YOU WOULD HAVE A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE SKIP OVER THE PER PERSON THEN YOU GO TO THE YOU THE MULTIPLIER FOR THAT WOULD BE HALF OF AN EU. SO THAT FEE WOULD BE SIX HUNDRED ONE DOLLARS NORTH OF ABROAD THE CURRENT FEES ELEVEN SEVENTY EIGHT WHICH WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS IF WE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THE MULTIPLIER WOULD BE POINT NINE TWO OF THAT EDI YOU OR THAT STARTING POINT THE MAXIMAL MAXIMUM SUPPORTED FEE IS A THOUSAND FOR IT BASED VIP LIST FOR FIRE THE CURRENT FEE ELEVEN SEVEN OR ELEVEN SEVENTY EIGHT A NEW FEE WOULD BE NINETY FOUR DOLLARS BUT OKAY WITH THAT ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT DOINGTHIS EARLIER. >> THE CURRENT FEE THAT WAS A APPEARED TO BE A TYPO.
I DID NOT CHANGE THEIR THEIR FEE ON THEIR TISCHLER LICENSE POWERPOINT BECAUSE IT WASN'T MINE BUT THE AVERAGE WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK THE EU AND PUT IT IN THAT COLUMN THE AVERAGE CURRENTLY IS FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO DOLLARS FOR AN AVERAGE SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK BACK VARY THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE BUT IT'S PRETTY NOMINAL.
>> BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ELEVEN SEVENTY EIGHT I THINK THEY TOOK THE AVERAGE MULTIPLIED TIMES THAT HAZARDOUS USE INSTEAD OF A NON HAZARDOUS USE AND CAME UP WITH THAT WELL ON THE NEXT PAGE THE CURRENT FEE IS ACTUALLY CORRECT THIS BLUFFTON FIRE DISTRICT SAME THING THEY DEVELOPED THE EPA YOU REPRESENTS NINE HUNDRED FIFTY THREE DOLLARS FOR HOUSING UNIT SIZE OF A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THAT IS A TWENTY FIVE MULTIPLIER FOR THE U.
>> THAT GIVES A FEE OF WATER AND SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS THE CURRENT FEE IS MORE EIGHTY ONE X REDUCTION OF UP YOU GO TO A TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THE MULTIPLIER IS POINT NINE TO THAT'S 77 THAT WOULD BE THE NEW FEE WHICH IS A THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY SIX DOLLAR INCREASE
SO THAT'S IT FOR ALL OF THE FEES. >> IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT SO FAR I KNOW THIS IS JUST MIND NUMBING BUT ONE THING THAT STAFF LOOKING THE ORDINANCE ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THIS ORDINANCE IS AN ANNUAL INCREASE TO OFFSET FOR INFLATION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MOST WHERE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCES DO NOT HAVE NOW IT'S NEW AND I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO SLIDE THROUGH.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF WHAT IT REPRESENTS. I THINK PINK YOU MENTIONED THAT BASED ON 20 21 NUMBERS THE CPI FOR TWENTY TWENTY THREE IS GOING TO BE ALMOST FIVE PERCENT. SO IF THIS IS INCLUDED DEPENDING ON WHAT INFLATION DOES THIS COULD BE A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER EVERY YEAR. HOWEVER IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IT INFLATION WILL OUTPACE THE FEES AND THERE WILL BE A HUGE DELTA IN FIVE YEARS OR PERHAPS 20 25 PERCENT. I KNOW THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER BUT LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE NOW WE COULD HAVE A HUGE DELTA OVER A FEW YEARS SO THAT'S WHY STAFF PUT THAT IN THERE.
BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST GLOSS OVER IT AND HAVE THAT BE A SURPRISE LATER ON.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S A VERY LONG AUDIENCE, A LOT OF CHANGES, A LOT OF DETAILS.
I WILL STOP THERE. >> IT'S BOEING. CHUCK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DROPPING DISHONEST. I WISH I HAD HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE I'M SURE I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AND ASK FOR SOME REFINEMENTS.
THEREFORE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE VOTING ON THIS TODAY. I THINK WE NEED MORE TIME TO EVALUATE THE YES.
I'LL STOP THERE. THANK YOU. >> OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE. CHRIS, STAY HERE. GOOD.
YEAH, GOOD. GOOD PRESENTATION. VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
EASY TO UNDERSTAND. I DO THINK THE INFLATION PIECE MAKES SENSE GOING FORWARD AND MY TAKE IS THAT THIS WILL BE VERY FAVORABLE FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING WHICH WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT. I DO THINK, BRYAN, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE READINGS ,IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IT'S LOGICAL TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND THEN IF WE HAVE SOME MAJOR ISSUES WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. SO I WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM 13 AND 14 FOR APPROVAL TO GO INTO COUNCIL FIRST READING THAT WE HAVE COMMERCIAL
MONETIZING ROBIN. >> WE GET A SECOND A SECOND NET GROSS SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
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LOGAN DISCUSSION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM THE COMMITTEEWHEN EVERYBODY'S DONE? >> I HAVE AN ANSWER. I THINK YOU'RE AT I'D BE INTERESTED IN HAVING A BIT OF ADVICE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE ABILITY OF COUNCIL TO OBLIGATE FUTURE COUNCILS FOR AN INCREASE WITHOUT A VOTE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT AUTOMATIC CPI INCREASES ARE ALLOWABLE. I THINK THAT WE'VE RUN ACROSS THAT IN SOME OTHER MEASURE THAT WE HAD A YEAR OR TWO AGO WHICH ESCAPES ME AT THE MOMENT.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT THE ADVICE THAT WE GOT WAYS THAT WE COULD AND COULDN'T OBLIGATE FUTURE COUNCILS FOR AN INCREASE WITHOUT A. SO WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO DISCUSS THAT HER THERE WHICH WE CAN PUT IT ON AN AGENDA.
FOR NEXT YEAR'S COUNCIL MEETINGS BUT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO APPROVE
SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT'S OUR OWN SARA. >> YOUR GRAND PAUL DID YOU CALL ME OR FOR YOU? THANK YOU. STILL A COUPLE OF DAYS.
WHAT DID I THINK YOUR FOLKS WATCHING THINK THAT IF WE PASS AN ORDINANCE TO IMPLEMENT AN IMPACT FEE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
PASSING AN ORDINANCE IS JUST A SMALL PART OF GETTING THIS FATALITIES TO AGREE IS IS WHAT REALLY COUNTS. I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS REMINDING EVERYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO THIS JUST BECAUSE WE PASS IT DOESN'T MEAN THE MUNICIPALITIES.
WELL THERE ARE LOTS OF EXAMPLES AROUND RIGHT NOW WHERE WE PASSED A IMPACT FEES THAT ARE THAT WE THINK A BODY ARE NEEDED AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT SAY NO .
SO SOMETIMES WITH THE REASON SOMETIMES WITHOUT A REASON. SECOND THING I'D SAY IS I THINK ANY ANY FEE FIXED FEE SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE INDEXED FOR INFLATION BECAUSE IT JUST CREATES A PROBLEM OF THE WIDOW WITH A NEVER NEVER LAND THAT WE'VE JUST ENTERED THE LAST YEAR. IT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM A LOT QUICKER THAN IT WOULD
HAVE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. >> AND I'M SORRY, DID YOU DROP SOMETHING WHEN YOU DISCUSSED I JUST WANTED TO SEE MR. WILLING BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND RESEARCH IT AND GET BACK TO CARLSON.
>> IF I MAY, I'LL ELABORATE ON THE CPI. >> THAT LANGUAGE IS IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. IF YOU RECALL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
WELL, IT'S BEEN TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO NOW. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS THAT LONG. WE BROUGHT WHEN ENTERING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JOHN WEAVER WAS HERE. WE BROUGHT FOR YOU ALL A PROPOSAL TO RAISE THE IMPACT FEES OF A CAUSE OF THAT CPI LANGUAGE IN THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE.
PREVIOUS STAFF HAD NOT DONE THAT FOR SOME REASON IT WAS GOING TO BE A PRETTY BIG JUMP
IN THE IMPACT FEE. >> SO YOU AUTHORIZED US TO WAIT UNTIL THE IMPACT FEE STUDY WAS COMPLETE BEFORE WE RAISED THE CURRENT IMPACT FEES USING THE CPI THAT CPI LANGUAGES IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. AND I THINK IT IS LEGALLY AND STATUTORILY CORRECT UNDERNEATH THE IMPACT FEE STATUTE ARE IMPACT.
WE CONSULT WOULD'VE TOLD US TO REMOVE THAT. SO JUST FOR JUST FOR THAT WHATEVER WHATEVER THAT INFORMATION IS WORTH. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> I'LL PROVIDE A COMMENT ON I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT ITEMS ACCOUNTS FOR SOME ARE REALLY COMFORTABLE FLOWING RAISING A LITTLE BIT CONCERN ME I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS TO
GET IT OVER TO COUNCIL. >> BUT YOU DEFINITELY HAVE CONCERNS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COUNCIL BEFORE YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON YOUR ROLL CALL.
>> OKAY. >> AND EMOTIONAL AND STABLER IS TO PROVIDE MS 13 AND 14 COUNTS FOR ROMNEY. I MADE THE NOTION. YES.
>> COUNCILMAN MCGOWAN. YES. YES.
>> RIBAUT. YES. COUNCILMAN HAUER?
YES. >> THAT'S BEEN FLOWING. NO.
SPEAK LOUDER. NO. I WILL BE YES.
I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE CORRECT SIX TO SIX DIFFERENT POLICIES. >> I DON'T THINK I RECALL
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HASN'T VOTED YET. I'M SORRY. SOMEBODY ELSE WILL.COLORADO LONG WILL VOTED YES. >> THE ANGLE THAT I'VE GOT IS VERY INTRIGUING SO I APOLOGIZE.
[15. RECOMMENDATION FOR CONTRACT AWARD FOR EXTERNAL AUDITING SERVICES RFP 120121 FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY TO MAULDIN & JENKINS, SAVANNAH, GA - FISCAL IMPACT: CONTRACT REQUEST IS $260,500 FOR THE THREE-YEAR CONTRACT APPROVAL. THE FEES WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN DSN, HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT, AND FINANCE BASED ON THE BREAKDOWN OF THE FEES FROM THE PROPOSAL ON A YEARLY BASIS.]
72 72. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OH, RIGHT.
AND MOVING ON TO NUMBER 15 ON THE AGENDA REPUTATION FOR CONTRACT WORK FOR EXTRA AUDITING SERVICES ARE ONES 0 1 TO 1 OR 2 MORE THAN JENKINS. SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN, SEND OFF
ONE SECOND THIS WE DON'T WE DON'T NEED THIS. >> FAIR ENOUGH.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. WITHOUT OBJECTION WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. GOOD.
[16. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE SC DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE DAUFUSKIE ISLAND FERRY]
YOU'RE VERY CONVINCING. YOU KNOW THAT ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT.I DON'T NUMBER 16 RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REGULATION EXCEPTION TO YOUR GRANT WORK.
THE STUFF FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION OF COURSE GET IRELAND VERY SMOOTH.
>> PRESUME THE ON THAT ONE AS WELL. >> SO MOVE BACK ON A MISSION
MINUS YOUR MOTHER. >> SECOND BY MR. LLEWELLYN PERFECT.
>> WITHOUT OBJECTION. GOING TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT AS LONG AS OUR MAIN
[17. APPOINTMENT OF ROBERT BIBLE TO THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT APPEALS FOR A FIRST-TERM WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF 2026]
OBJECTION HEARING NONE GO TO CRUISE AND LAST EMPLOYMENT OF ROBERT MILO TO THE BOARDOF APPEALS FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH EXPERTS DATA POINTS MAKE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I'LL SECOND
THAT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION? NO OBJECTION. JUST A COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
YES, SIR. YEAH. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE IF I REMEMBER BACK HISTORICALLY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT TO DO IN BETWEEN ASSESSMENTS AND THEN THEY HAVE A LOT TO DO WHEN THERE ARE ASSESSMENTS. AND I DO THINK WITH THE RISE IN PROPERTY VALUES SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT WENT UP.
BUT THERE ALSO WE MAY GET A LARGE NUMBER OF OBJECTION. SO YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO WHETHER WE NEED ANY TEMPORARY PEOPLE OR SOME TEMPORARY EXPANSION OF THE COMMITTEE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE WORK THROUGH THE ASSESSMENTS APPEALS AND WE MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THIS IN THE PAST. I CAN'T FIERY RAISING THE NUMBERS BUT IT CAN BE DONE.
ALL RIGHT. RESOLUTION YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
BECAUSE I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF APPEALS. >> BUT ONE INTERESTING POINT
THE OTHER COMMENTS WERE PRETTY . >> YOU KNOW, YOU GO AHEAD AND
APPROVE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION OR ANY OBJECTION. >> VERY GOOD ON THAT CASE.
THAT IS ALL BUSINESS COMING BEFORE IT. I THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
AND WE ARE ADJOURNED FIVE MINUTES. OK, SIR.
OK. FIVE MINUTES WHILE THEY CONVENE WITH PUBLIC FACILITIES
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