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[1. Call to Order]
OF FEBRUARY 8TH, UH, TO DISCUSS THE NORTH RIDGE PART OF THE ISLAND.CHRISTIAN, COULD YOU MAKE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? CERTAINLY, SIR.
THIS IS BECKER MR. LENNOX, MR. STANFORD, MAYOR MCCANN AND MR. HAWKINS IS ON THE COURSE ISLAND.
GUINEA HAS CHANGED, READY TO PAY, BUT IT TOLD ME HE HAS TO GET CHANGED.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, BRIAN'S GROUP AND EVERYTHING HAS WORKED VERY HARD.
PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
UM, TARA, YOU POINTING AT SOMEBODY OR ARE YOU JUST, OKAY.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE POINTING AT SOMEBODY AND PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
WE MET WITH HIS GROUP LAST NIGHT AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT TODAY.
WHAT I COULD DO THIS MORNING, I WENT TO DO SOME WALK AND WALK WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE POC, UM, WHICH IS A PIECE OF LAND RIGHT NOW, BUT ABOUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, THE WHOLE DISTRICT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH ONE DISTRICT CHANGE, RATHER THAN JUST ONE PIECE OF LAND, UH, THEY'LL GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION.
WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE COUNCIL AND TIME PERMITTING.
WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
IT IS GOOD TO HAVE PEOPLE BACK IN FRONT OF US.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE COUNCIL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, ALONG THE WAY IT'S, UM, IT, IT, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER AND WE'LL BE BACK IN PUBLIC FOR AS LONG AS YOU REALLY CAN, ALONG THE WAY, IF YOUR PATIENTS ARE WAITING FOR US TO COME BACK.
UM, BUT WE DID THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME.
UH, MORNING AMERICA COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
UH, THERE'S THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND WE HAVE WITH US, UM, BRIAN COUNCILMAN WITH MKS K AND HIS GREAT TEAM HERE.
UM, AND THEY'LL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS WE DIVE INTO IT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD JUST REALLY EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE AFTER TODAY AND REALLY LEADING INTO THE FUTURE ON THESE THREE PROJECTS RIGHT TODAY, WE'RE HERE TO LOOK AT THE MID ISLAND REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT THAT'S BEEN OUR PRIORITY PROJECT FOR SOME MONTHS.
UM, AND AS DIRECTED BY TOWN COUNCIL, STAFF'S BEEN WORKING WITH MKS K ON, ON THE REDEVELOPMENT SLASH RE-INVESTMENT STRATEGY IN THE MID ISLAND AREA.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES ARE.
UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY CATALYTIC PUBLIC PROJECTS AND CATALYTIC, CATALYTIC, PRIVATE, REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP REVITALIZE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA IN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ENHANCE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, ESPECIALLY AS THEY SURROUND THAT, THAT THE AIRPORT.
UM, SECOND, THE MID ISLAND TRACT.
UM, TODAY WE'RE JUST GOING TO HEAR SOME ASSESSMENT OF PUBLIC INPUT TO DATE AND ASSESSMENT OF A SITE ANALYSIS AND A REAL IN-DEPTH LOOK AT THE 103 ACRE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY.
UM, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE PLANNER'S ROPE GOLF COURSE WITH THE OVERALL, I WOULD SAY ULTIMATE GOAL TO ESTABLISH A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT HUNDRED AND THREE ACRE TRACT.
AGAIN, PLUGGING BACK INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, A PUBLIC SPACE AS A CATALYST FOR RE-INVESTMENT AND THEN LASTLY ISLAND Y CONDITIONS AND TRENDS.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF A CONVERSATION HERE FOR, FOR A WHILE WITH YOU NOW, WHERE I KEEP HEARING AND WE CONTINUE TO TALK THAT WE SEEK TO ENHANCE AND PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITY ENHANCE AND PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT RESILIENCY.
WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT CAPACITY AS IT RELATES TO THE ENVIRONMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMICS, AND THE WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER ELEMENTS.
AND I, AND WE KNOW, I KNOW WE KNOW THERE ALWAYS BE A DESIRE TO IDENTIFY SOME SORT OF ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY EQUILIBRIUM.
HOW DO WE STAY CURRENT? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INNOVATIVE AND RELEVANT ALONG THE WAY? UM, AND THAT THIS ASSESSMENT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
I WROTE A WORD DOWN THAT I CAME ACROSS.
IT'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO LOOK AT IT, TO LEARN AS MUCH ABOUT AS MUCH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BY COLLECTING AND ANALYZING DATA ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND IN OUR REGION.
AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE SOME DECISIONS TO MAKE ALONG THE WAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO USE THIS INFORMATION? ONCE WE KNOW IT REALLY, WE SEEK TO DETERMINE A LEVEL OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ASPIRE TO.
AND SO TODAY WE'RE HERE TO KICK OFF ALL THREE, TO ME, ALL THREE NEED TO BE DONE TOGETHER.
UM, IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND WITHOUT THE HARD WORK OF JEN AND SEAN AND, AND, AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHERS, WE WOULDN'T BE THIS FAR ALONG.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME GOOD THINKERS AND SOME FOLKS AT THE TABLE THAT HAVE, UM, A LOVE AND DESIRE TO HELP US IN HILTON HEAD, BUT ALSO A LOT OF EXPERIENCE
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ELSEWHERE.SO WITH THAT, TURN IT OVER OVER TO HAVE A FRUIT OVER THE BRIAN, EVERYBODY ALWAYS WONDERS.
WHY ARE WE SEATED IN THE ORDER WITH SEATING IN, OKAY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SEEKING AN ORDER BY WARD NUMBER.
SO THERE'S NO MAGICAL FORMULA WHILE HOW WAS SITTING WHERE WE'RE SITTING.
AND BRIAN HAS CREW SITTING DOWN THE OTHER END, SO THEY CAN NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, BUT THE MEMBER THAT THE, THE PUBLIC GETS HERE TODAY WITH THAT, BRIAN, THAT CHOICE HERE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR MR. MANAGER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THRILLED TO BE HERE.
UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, MARK, YOU TOUCHED UPON THEM, WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THIS EFFORT.
THIS ISN'T JUST US, WE'RE, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH YOUR VERY CAPABLE STAFF AND THEIR, UM, THEIR BRAIN POWERS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, AND, AND PUBLIC, UH, THANKS FOR ATTENDING.
UM, AS MARK SUGGESTED, WE REALLY HAVE THREE, THREE PARTS TO THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE WITH SOME PACE.
SO WE DON'T PUT ANYONE TO SLEEP, UH, FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS ALONG THE WAY.
IF YOU CARE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END FOR EACH OF THESE THREE INCREMENTAL PARTS.
AND WE, UH, ASK QUESTIONS AT THAT JUNCTURE.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S FINE BY US AS WELL.
UM, WITH ME IS, UH, KYLE MAY ANDREW OVERBECK, TONY REL, UH, AND MYSELF AND A CAST OF THOUSANDS BEHIND US, UM, THAT, THAT AREN'T HERE TODAY.
UM, ANDREW AND KYLE HAVE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON THE DISTRICT PLANNING, UH, TONY AND I HAVE BEEN, UH, FOCUSED ON THE, UH, MID ISLAND TRACT, BUT THERE'S NO LIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO, AS YOU SUGGEST TO MARK, THIS IS ALL ONE PLACE, ONE THING.
UH, AND THEN WE WERE JUST NOW KICKING OFF THIS CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ASSESSMENT AS WELL.
SO ALL OF US WILL BE INVOLVED IN ALL OF THAT, UH, WITH THAT I'M GOING TO START WITH ANDREW OVERBECK
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AND LET HIM GO THROUGH THE DISTRICT ANALYSIS AND OUR THINKING, DOES YOUR, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE TRACK GREETINGS, NICE TO BE WITH Y'ALL ALL OF YOU THIS MORNING.UM, AS, UH, BRIAN HAS ALLUDED TO, WE'VE GOT, UH, A COUPLE OF SECTIONS TO GET THROUGH, BUT WE'LL START, UH, BY REVIEWING SOME OF THE INPUT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, GREAT, UH, SUPPORT FROM, UH, THE COMMUNITY IN, IN PROVIDING INPUT, UH, TOWN STAFF, UH, DID A GREAT JOB WITH SOME OPEN PARK DAY EVENTS WHERE WE'RE MORE THAN 225 PEOPLE CAME OUT AND GAVE SOME FEEDBACK.
UH, WE HAD, UM, NOW MORE THAN A HUNDRED DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE'VE MET WITH THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN THE SURVEY THAT YOU ALL HOST ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, I THINK GOT THE MOST RESPONSES IT'S EVER GOTTEN SO THOUSAND PLUS, UH, RESPONSES TO THAT SURVEY.
SO WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
UH, WE'VE HAD GREAT STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.
UH, SOME, SOME OF WHICH ARE, SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE HERE IN THE ROOM TODAY, UH, IN ADDITION TO MANY OTHERS.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A PRETTY WIDE CROSS SECTION, UH, THE COMMUNITY.
WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE MORE SORT OF ONE-ON-ONE SMALL GROUP DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, AND AGAIN, THE IN PARK EVENTS, UH, HELPED TO GET PEOPLE OUT ONTO THE SITE ITSELF AND EXPERIENCE IT.
AND B BE OUT IN THE SPACE, UH, IN, IN THE, UH, MID ISLAND TRACT.
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TO REVIEW A FEW, UH, SUMMARY FINDINGS.AND AGAIN, THIS IS SORT OF COMBINING ALL THAT IN-PERSON, UH, AND THE ONLINE, UH, INTERACTION TOGETHER.
UH, SO MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT TO THOSE EVENTS OR TOOK THE SURVEY ARE DAILY OR WEEKLY VISITORS, UH, TO, TO THE MID ISLAND AREA.
UM, THEY ARE PRIMARILY SHOPPING, LIVING, AND DINING.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING, UH, IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
SO WE ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE MISSING? UH, AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THE, THE IDEA OF A PARK WAS SO SORT OF FRESH IN PEOPLE'S MINDS, IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT THAT'S THE TOP ANSWER THERE, BUT I THINK YOU START TO PUT THESE OTHER ANSWERS TOGETHER.
YOU START TO SEE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF COMMUNITY FORMING, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DISTRICT FORMING A WALKABLE STREETS WAS, WAS THE SECOND MOST, UH, ANSWERED, UH, DINING COMMUNITY EVENTS, SHOPPING, AND THEN WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO A KNOWLEDGE I THINK, WITH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING THAT MAYBE WHAT WE HAVE ON OFFER TODAY.
SO REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THAT CROSS SECTION OF RESPONSES, THE DESIRE TO MAKE IT A PLACE, BUT ALSO ONE THAT'S, THAT'S VERY HUMAN, UH, HUMAN FOCUSED.
UH, AND THEN WE SORT OF ASKED OPEN-ENDEDLY WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN, UH, IN, IN THIS SPACE? WHAT ELSE SHOULD WE BE AWARE OF? SO THIS WAS, ANYONE CAN ANSWER IT ANY WAY THAT THEY WANT, UH, WE SORT OF COLLAPSED SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS INTO SOME COMMON THEMES FOR BOTH THE MID ISLAND TRACT AND THE DISTRICT.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE, AS PEOPLE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE MID ISLAND TRACT, UH, CERTAINLY, UM, MORE OF A DESIRE FOR A PASSIVE PARK NATURE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHER, UH, SPACES, UH, ACROSS THE ISLAND.
UM, AS PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THE DISTRICT, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE ACROSS THE PARKWAY, JOIN TWO SIDES OF THE DISTRICT
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TOGETHER, UH, IMPROVING WALKABILITY, ALSO TOP OF THE LIST, IN ADDITION TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDING SOME VITALITY TO THOSE NEGLECTED COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTERS, UH, AND STARTING TO THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING POTENTIALLY, UH, IN THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.UH, SO THOSE WERE ALL THINGS THAT WE'VE SORT OF TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS WE STARTED TO THEN ATTACH THIS TO SOME ANALYSIS, UH, THAT WE STARTED TO DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN SORT OF PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF A SUMMARY OF ENGAGEMENT THEMES FOR THE DISTRICT, UH, I THINK EVERYONE SEES THE MIDLINE TRACK AS A CATALYST, UH, FOR THAT CHANGE, UH, THE DESIRE TO CREATE A WALKABLE DISTRICT, UH, TO ADDRESS THE CONDITION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL SHOPPING AREAS, UH, ADDRESSING NEEDS FOR A WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE DISTRICT, UM, AND CREATING A UNIQUE IDENTITY.
THIS IS A PLACE THAT I THINK, UH, PEOPLE COULD SEE BEING, BEING ELEVATED AND BEING PART OF THAT CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND AS IT RELATES TO THE TRACK.
UH, AGAIN, UH, MORE PASSIVE TYPES OF PARK USES INSTEAD OF ACTIVE, UH, THE DESIRE TO CONNECT THIS PIECE OF GROUND TO ALL THE OTHER GREEN SPACES, UH, IN THE GENERAL AREA, CREATE AN INTERCONNECTED, UM, UH, UH, NETWORK OF GREEN SPACES, PARKS AND TRAILS, UH, AGAIN, ENHANCING THOSE NATURAL FEATURES THAT EXIST ON THE SITE TODAY.
UM, DEFINITELY TALKED, UH, TO, UH, TO A GROUP OF, FROM THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT HOW DO WE CELEBRATE AND EMBRACE THE GULLAH HISTORY AND CULTURE ON THIS SITE.
TALK TO THEM ABOUT OPEN AIR MARKET, HERITAGE, GARDEN, POTENTIALLY A CAFE, UH, WAYS THAT WE COULD SORT OF, UM, BRING THAT INTO THIS COMMUNITY RESOURCE, UH, AND REALLY A PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WHETHER YOU'RE A RESIDENT, WHETHER YOU'RE A VISITOR, IT'S A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO.
UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOUSING AS PART OF THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY EVALUATE THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER ON TODAY.
UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, YOU GOT TO HAVE A FOCUS ON PHASING THAT, UM, BEING RESPONSIBLE IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AS WELL FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT.
UH, SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE GLEANED FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REALLY HELPED PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION.
AND, UH, WHEN YOU START TO PUT THIS TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, YOU CAN START TO SEE, UH, SOME, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS COMING TOGETHER THAT WE'LL CLOSE ON TODAY.
UM, MY FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, THE STUDY AREA WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE DEFINE THE DISTRICT, UH, PRIMARILY LOOKING, UH, BROAD CREEK, UH, OUT TO HISTORIC MITCHELLVILLE, UM, FREEDOM PARK, UH, BEACH CITY ROAD, UH, AND THEN UNION CEMETERY.
SO THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE BOUNDARIES, ALTHOUGH AT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, UH, JIGS AND JOGS AROUND, UH, ALL OF THOSE EDGES.
UM, BUT THAT'S PRIMARILY THE AREA THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT SORT OF ANALYSIS AND ALL OF THESE DIAGRAMS SORT OF CAPTURING, UH, THAT DISTRICT.
UH, WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THE NATURAL SYSTEMS. THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE DISTRICT, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S RESILIENT, UH, AND THAT WE ARE RESPECTING SORT OF THE NATURAL FEATURES ON THESE SITES.
SO HERE YOU SEE, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AREAS, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH HERE.
UH, AND I'LL STEP THROUGH SOME OF THIS ANALYSIS WITH SOME, SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS.
SO WE LOOK AT THE, UH, HYDRO HYDROGRAPHY OF THE SITE, UM, OAK CREEK DRIVE REALLY THAT DIVIDING POINT BETWEEN FRESHWATER SALTWATER.
AND THAT ALSO PROVIDES A BIT OF A BUFFER, UH, TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, LATER ON HERE WITH, WITH SEA LEVEL RISE AND, AND, UH, UM, STORM SURGE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT THIS GREAT SYSTEM OF BOTH, YOU KNOW, TOWN OWNED GROUND, UM, CONSERVANCY AREAS, REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LINK A LOT OF THESE TOGETHER, TO SEE THAT AS A COMMON THEME IN OUR WORK TODAY IS HOW DO WE LINK THESE GREAT GREEN OPEN SPACES, UH, TOGETHER? AND YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT ALREADY, BUT HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO REINFORCE THAT, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE 500 YEAR FLOOD, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SORT OF IS COVERING ALL OF THE MID ISLAND TRACK THAT YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE REST OF THESE SORT OF NATURAL AREAS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT BUFFER AND THAT 500 YEAR FLOOD.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT, UH, WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN THAT ISLAND TRACT, UH, AND BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THAT.
AND YEAH, I JUST INTERRUPT FOR JUST A SECOND.
IT'S MY RECOLLECTION THAT HILTON HEAD HAS HAD TWO, 500 YEAR FLOODS IN THE LAST 50 YEARS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THAT AS SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUARIALLY MAY BE ACCURATE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT.
UH, OR THE PIECE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
I THINK EVERYONE'S SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGED AT ONE FOOT SEA LEVEL RISE IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO SEE OR ALREADY SEEING, AND YOU START TO SEE WHERE THAT STARTS TO BE AN INTRUSION.
SO WE GET TO, UH, LOOKING AT STORM SURGE, UM, AGAIN, UM, CATEGORY ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT A MAJOR IMPACT.
UM, BUT AS YOU START TO GET INTO CATEGORY TWO AND THREE ON THIS SITE AND A ON TRACK, ESPECIALLY, UM, YOU START TO SEE THAT IMPACT IN, IN A CATEGORY TWO AND THREE, UH, AGAIN, CATEGORY THREE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS AS WELL, BUT AGAIN, WE
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WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE LOOKED AT THAT AND UNDERSTOOD, UM, WHAT ALL OF THAT MEANT AS WE THINK ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS AREA.ANDREW, COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES WHERE YOU IDENTIFY, UH, RESPONSIBLE PARTIES FOR LAND, UH, IN PARTICULAR, THE COCK, THE ASHMORE AM I PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY TRACK? UH, WHERE ARE WE ON DEFINING IMPERPETUITY DISPOSITION OF THAT LAND? IS IT, ARE WE CLEAR THAT IT'S A WEEK WE CAN'T TOUCH THAT, UH, ACCORDING TO CURTIS'S POSITION, THE LAND WAS ACQUIRED WITH FUNDS THAT DO NOT ALLOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIO? WELL, THE REASON I ASKED THAT I THINK THERE'S SOME DISPARITY OF THOUGHT OR OPINION ON THAT OF, FROM PEOPLE THAT CAN ADVANCE A COGENT ARGUMENT.
SO I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT, NOT THAT WE CHALLENGE CURTIS, BUT WE LOOK AT ANOTHER OPINION TOO, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KNOW THE CANVAS, THE SIZE OF THE CANVAS WE'RE PLAYING HERE, AND IF THAT'S OFF LIMITS, SO BE IT.
BUT IF IT'S NOT, THEN, UM, I SUPPORT WHAT BILL IS SAYING, BUT WOULD ALSO ASK THE TOWN MANAGER, TALK TO THE MAYOR AT THE TIME.
OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE AT THE TIME, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARILY STRONG, UH, COMMITMENT TO THAT BEING OPEN SPACE AT THE TIME, PUBLIC FUNDED, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, UM, UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE, THE NEED TO GET VERIFICATION OF THAT.
AND, UH, BRIAN, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THE MID ISLAND TRACT.
AND I THINK DAVID'S, TOM PEOPLES CAUSE HE WAS AROUND IN THOSE DAYS TO, TO, TO SEE WHAT THE INTENTION WAS, RIGHT.
IT ALSO HAS A LITTLE LOW WITH THE INTENTION.
INTENTION IS IMPORTANT, BUT THE WRITTEN RECORD IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
UH, THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY COGNIZANT OF, AND I THINK THAT BRINGS, UH, THIS AREA ITS VITALITY OR THE 23,000 RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND.
SO THESE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT, UM, WE WANT TO LINK BOTH OF THEM, BOTH SIDES OF THE PARKWAY TOGETHER.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT, UH, WHERE THAT SORT OF STABLE BASE OF, OF, OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, UH, COMES TO BEAR.
UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE EXISTING ROADWAY NETWORK.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, IN, IN SOME OF OUR ANALYSIS FINDINGS, BUT AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE CURRENT CHARACTER ROADWAYS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE SAFETY, AGAIN, A KEY COMMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT? HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE AROUND AND, AND HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE ACROSS THE PARKWAY SAFELY? UH, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT BE NECESSARY FOR SOME OF THE SURROUNDING ROADS.
AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN NETWORK, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A BIKE PATH ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PARKWAY HERE, WE ONLY HAVE IT ON ONE SIDE, WHAT ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE COULD MAKE TO THE EXISTING CONDITION? WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MOMENT AS WELL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING AND SORT OF WHAT USES ARE SUPPORTED, UH, IN THE DISTRICT, UH, CRITICAL AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT, UH, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COMMUNITY VOICE THAT SAID THAT THESE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTERS COULD USE SOME, UM, UM, SOME, SOME, UH, REVITALIZATION, AND THEN OUT OF ALL THOSE THINGS FIT TOGETHER WITH THE GROWTH AT THE AIRPORT ANTICIPATES, UH, SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE PLANNING IN TERMS OF TERMINAL A AND BUILDING EXPANSION AND SOME OF THOSE NEEDS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TALENT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE FAA.
SO WE BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE AIRPORT, UH, LIMITATIONS MIGHT BE ON, UH, SOME OF THESE SURROUNDING PARCELS, UH, SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE CAN GO WITH WHAT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THAT DUE DILIGENCE AT THE MOMENT, BUT, BUT VERY KEENLY AWARE THAT THAT, THAT PLAYS AN IMPACT IN, IN THE ABILITY OF, OF, OF SOME OF THIS, UH, REDEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE, UM, WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME MARKET ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NORTH, UH, NORTH PART OF THE ISLAND, UH, AS WE LOOK AT 20 YEAR DEMAND, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO 2041, UM, WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING DEMAND THERE MIGHT BE.
AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT POPULATION TRENDS, RELATIVELY STABLE, UH, POPULATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR ANOTHER 1500 TO 1,750 UNITS OF HOUSING.
UH, AGAIN, AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING THAT IS, UH, HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING TO COME TO THE ISLAND FOR WORK THERE'S ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE AND WORK ON THE ISLAND, UH, REALLY KEY, UH, ADDITIONAL RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE, 160 TO 180,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, ADDITIONAL OFFICE, UH, 55 TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET, INDUSTRIAL SPACE.
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UH, AGAIN, SOME, SOME MODERATE DEMAND FOR THAT.AND THEN LOOKING AT HOSPITALITY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 102 HUNDRED 50, UH, HOTEL ROOMS, UH, THE MARKET FOLKS LIKE TO CALL IT KEYS, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.
UH, BUT I THINK ALL OF THESE THINGS AND WELL, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT, THEY GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE PLACE YOU'VE INCLUDED OFFICE IN THERE ABOUT NEEDING 55 TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET.
YOU PROBABLY GOT ALMOST THAT MUCH VACANT RIGHT HERE.
NOW I JUST DON'T SEE THE DEMAND FOR OFFICE AT THAT LEVEL OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
MY, MY CRYSTAL BALL IS NOT VERY CLEAR, BUT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ACCEPT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND YOU WILL HAVE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO DECIDE WHAT THE MIX OUGHT TO BE.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY KEY, YOU KNOW, GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ONE THING, BUT I THINK THE REALLY THING TO FOCUS ON HERE ARE THE MARKET CONSIDERATIONS AND WHAT DRIVES THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOUSING, THE NEED IS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING PRODUCTS, DETACHED ATTACHED MARKET RATE, MULTI-FAMILY, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, ACTIVE ADULT OR SENIOR HOUSING.
ALL OF THAT TYPES OF HOUSING, UH, ARE, ARE SORT OF NEEDED ACROSS, YOU KNOW, TO BECOME THAT LIFECYCLE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE RETAIL, WHERE THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISING, ALL OF THAT IS I THINK VERY MUCH DRIVEN BY THE KIND OF PLACE YOU'RE CREATING.
SO IF YOU MAKE THIS INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC SPACE, UH, AND COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE, UH, ON THE MID ISLAND TRACK, THAT SORT OF CHANGES THE GAME A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RETAIL, NOW, WE'RE NOT THINKING BIG BOX.
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE RETAIL, THAT SERVING PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE COMING TO THAT NEW, UH, COMMUNITY HUB, UM, THAT ARE LIVING NEARBY.
THAT'S THE TYPE OF RETAIL THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UH, AS WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE.
AND ESPECIALLY AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT MIXING SOME OF THESE USES TOGETHER, AND IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME WITH OFFICE AND HOW, YEAH, JUST FOR CLARITY, WHEN A MARKET STUDY IS DONE, DOES THE CONSULTANT CONSIDER A COMMUNITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR ARE THEY COMPLETELY SEPARATE THIS, THESE ARE SORT OF GROSS NUMBERS, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE SORT OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR.
AND SO THEN IT BECOMES A JOB OF HOW DO WE TAKE THAT AND INTERPRET IT DOWN.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A SPACE FOR 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THESE ARE GROSS NUMBERS AND WE AS A COMMUNITY HAVE AN IMPACT ON ABSOLUTELY.
WE WANT TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT IS POSSIBLE, HOW DO WE SHAPE IT? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? WHICH IS REALLY, I THINK THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, SO AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT ARE THOSE DRIVERS AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE MARKET LOOKING FOR? SO THE OFFICE IS, AGAIN, I THINK CAN BE SOMETHING THAT'S SERVING, UH, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH, THINKING ABOUT THINGS, SMALL MEDICAL OFFICE, URGENT CARE, THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
AND AGAIN, ON THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AIRPORT SERVING USES, I THINK BECAUSE THE AIRPORTS HERE, WE SEE SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE AND THAT POTENTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL HOSPITALITY AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS WE SORT OF TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, AND THEN WE LOOK AT WHERE ON THE GROUND, SOME OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE.
SO THESE ARE SORT OF, UH, OTHER ANCHORS THAT WE SEE, UM, THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINGS, A KEY PART OF THIS THAT WE'VE GOT 23,000 FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING HERE FULL TIME, UH, THAT NEED ACCESS TO SERVICES.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY TOLD US IN THE SURVEY RESULTS.
UH, AND THEN WE LOOK AT, UM, THE ABILITY TO START TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING RETAIL CENTERS.
DO WE TRY AND MIX IN SOME OF THESE OTHER USES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S SOME HOUSING, UH, WHETHER THAT'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, OF A RETAIL EXPERIENCE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTO THE CONNECTIVITY, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A COMMERCIAL CENTERS THAT ARE SORT OF ENCLOSED.
THEY DON'T CONNECT OUT TO THE BROADER, UM, BROADER DISTRICT.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME THOUGHTS HERE ABOUT HOW YOU MIGHT START TO INTERCONNECT SOME OF THESE USES TOGETHER AND HAVE THEM FUNCTION IN A WAY THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY LOOKING FOR THEM TO FUNCTION.
UM, SO THAT SORT OF GETS US TO SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AGAIN, STILL WAITING ON A COUPLE OF PIECES OF INFORMATION TO COMPLETE THIS WORK.
UM, BUT WE ARE CHALLENGING OURSELVES WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMUNITY ASKED US, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE START TO LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTERS AND MAYBE A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT WAY? UH, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS AROUND THE AIRPORT THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT MIGHT NOT BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF CURRENTLY, BUT I THINK IT ALL GOES BACK, UH, ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AS YOU START TO MAKE PUBLIC INVESTMENT, WHAT THAT SPACE LOOKS LIKE.
AND AGAIN, WE, WE ARE SORT OF CONTINUING TO START FROM THIS, UH, INTEGRATED GREEN NETWORK THAT EXISTS, THAT EXISTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON A MAP, BUT HOW DO WE START TO CONNECT THESE, THESE SPACES TOGETHER? AND AGAIN, BRIDGING ACROSS THE PARKWAY, UH, AS A KEY ELEMENT TO THAT, UM, YOU'LL START TO SEE, UH, SOME THOUGHTS WE HAVE ABOUT THE SORT OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL AREAS.
UM, UM, ALONG THE PARKWAY DOWN MATTHEWS, ACTUALLY LOOKING OVER, UH, TO THE, UM, THE MODERN CLASSICS, UH, SITE THAT THE, THAT THE TOWN OWNS AND SORT OF COVERED UP HERE,
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UH, BY THAT LABEL.BUT AGAIN, WHERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO START TO MIX IN SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WHETHER THAT'S OFFICE, WHETHER THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RETAIL, POTENTIALLY SOME HOUSING, UH, IN THOSE AREAS.
UH, WE THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, UH, AS WE LOOK AHEAD AND PROVIDE MORE PEOPLE, UH, IN THOSE PLACES ALL THE TIME, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, UH, ONE, UH, ONE, ONE SIZE, ALL FITS DEVELOPMENT.
UNDERSTANDING AS WELL AS, AS ANDREW MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE GOT TO ADJUDICATE BETWEEN THE AIRPORTS, UH, UH, GUIDELINES AND RESTRICTIONS, WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE BUILT NEAR THE AIRPORT IN THAT GLIDE PATH.
AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO POTENTIAL MIX OF USE? YOU KNOW, HOW TALL CAN YOU GO? WHAT KINDS OF USES WOULD SORT OF DENSITY, BUT THOSE, UM, UH, SEA TURTLE IS OBVIOUSLY JUST RECENTLY REDEVELOPED AND CONTINUES TO DO SO, BUT NORTHRIDGE AND, AND PORT ROYAL, UM, APPEARED TO US TO BE RIGHT FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
THE DAYS OF THAT DIAGRAM OF RETAIL ARE GOING AWAY, UH, SAME WITH OFFICE, UH, UH, COUNCIL, WHEN YOU MADE MENTION OF THE VACANCIES OF OFFICE THAT WE HAVE ON THE ISLAND OFFICE USAGE.
AND, UM, A QUARTER MONTHS ARE CHANGING BY THE DAY.
WHAT OFFICE WE DO HAVE ON THIS ISLAND TO GROSSLY CHARACTERIZE IS, IS AGING AND MAYBE HAVE A DIFFERENT MODEL I'LL SAY.
UM, SO THAT OFFICE AND THAT RETAIL AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFERINGS NEED TO BE FORWARD LOOKING, NOT JUST RETROFITTING WHAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH A FRESH COAT OF PAINT AS WELL, WHICH I THINK IS EXCITING.
UM, SO I, I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.
I ALWAYS, UM, GET STARTLED BY PHOTOS THAT ARE INCLUDED.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PAGE, I SEE PHOTOS THAT I HOPE AREN'T REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT IT IS THAT THE, THE, THE MINDSET WOULD BE ON IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD TO KEEP IN MIND THE CHARACTER OF HILTON HEAD AND THE OVERALL IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR EACH OTHER THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO LIVE IN.
UM, AND THESE PHOTOS, UM, DOUBT IN MY MIND FIT THAT.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SEPARATING WHAT WE SEE AS A, AS A PHOTO FROM WHAT IT IS THAT WHILE I DON'T WANT TO PLACE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE AND MICROMANAGE, I CERTAINLY DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE START WITH A CONCEPT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH ISLAND CHARACTER AND WHAT IT IS THAT OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT TO SEE.
I, I THINK THOSE PHOTOS ARE MORE ABOUT DEMONSTRATING THE CONCEPT OF A MIX OF USE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST EVERY TIME I SEE A PHOTO, SOME FOLKS AND MYSELF INCLUDED VERY WELL MAY SAY, DID YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD? OKAY.
AND, AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DANGER WE RUN.
PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF ARE ATTRACTED TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE COLOR OF THAT BUILDING.
WHAT'S THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT IS IN MIX ABUSE.
I, I KNOW I PREACH TO THE CHOIR.
IT ISN'T JUST MIXING USES TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THOSE PURPLE ZONES, BUT IT'S ALSO MIXING THOSE USES VERTICALLY AS WELL.
GOING TO THE WHOLE IDEA OF OFFICE RYAN, THERE MAY BE SMALLER OFFICE SUITES ON SECOND FLOORS.
THE TERM EXCUSE, I THINK IS A NEUTRAL TERM.
I THINK SYNERGY OF USE EXPLAINS MUCH BETTER WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF TICKETS AND ONE OF THE CHARACTER AND JUST KEEPING ON THIS, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND JUST ONE MORE THING ABOUT IT.
UM, AGAIN, SEEING VISUALLY, UM, BUILDINGS AND WHATEVER THEY, THEY REPRESENT INDIVIDUALLY ON TOP OF THE STREET, RIGHT? SO HILTON HEAD IS KNOWN FOR KEEPING THINGS MORE NATURAL.
UM, KEEPING THINGS A LITTLE BIT TUCKED AWAY FROM, FROM THAT VISUAL POLLUTION THAT, UM, IN MY MIND IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE, THE WALKWAYS AND THE, THE ROADWAYS, UM, WOULD REPRESENT.
AND WE'LL GET IN, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE, I THINK, AFTER TODAY TO EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT YEAH, I WOULDN'T SAY THESE WOULD BE FRONTING.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT IT'S A HORRIBLE THING TO PICK UP ON BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT THEY'RE JUST PICTURES, BUT I JUST WANT THE INTENTION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, LIKEWISE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SORT OF TRIANGLE HERE, UH, TO THE AIRPORT, A POTENTIAL AIRPORT, UH, SERVING USERS AS THEY CONTINUE TO SORT OF, UM, HAVE A, UH, A LARGER TERMINAL AND, AND BUILDING AND THE SORT OF SUPPORT SERVICES THAT ARE, THAT ARE NEEDED.
THAT'S, THAT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHANGE, UH, IN THAT AREA.
UM, LOOKING AT OTHER PLACES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE RESIDENTIAL INFILL AGAIN IN
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FILM MAY NOT BE A VERY UNDERSTANDABLE TERM, BUT NOT THAT THE WHOLE THING.UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOOKED FOR PLACES TO CAREFULLY INSERT SOME, SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL AND IN SOME EXISTING AREAS, THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN WE'VE CONSIDERED AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT WE THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT AS WELL IN A, IN A VERY SENSITIVE, UH, CONTEXT SENSITIVE WAY.
AND THEN HOW DO WE CONNECT ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER AGAIN, UH, WE'RE DRAWING SOME VERY LOOSE DIAGRAMS AT THE MOMENT.
UH, AS WE START TO GET INTO SOME DETAIL AROUND, SAY A PORT ROYAL PLAZA, HOW MIGHT YOU START TO INJECT SOME, SOME NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS OR SOME RETAIL STREETS THAT START TO PROVIDE SOME GREATER CONNECTIVITY AS OPPOSED TO A DEVELOPMENT THAT SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING IN ON ITSELF, HOW DO YOU START TO CONNECT SOME OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER? UM, SO STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STREETS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, UM, SORT OF ENGINEERING CATEGORIES FOR STREETS, BUT WE START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE CHARACTER, UH, WHAT IS A PARK ADJACENT STREET OR A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, OR THAT RETAIL STREET THAT MIGHT BE INTERIOR TO A, UH, TO A DEVELOPMENT THAT STARTS TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT CONNECTIVITY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE PARKWAY ITSELF AND STARTING TO THINK ABOUT WHERE DO WE MAY HAVE SPACE TO HAVE SEPARATED THE USES FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS AND INTERWEAVING THOSE PATHS TOGETHER, HELPING PEOPLE WITH FACILITIES GET ACROSS THE STREET WITH SAFE, CROSSINGS, ALL THOSE THINGS.
UH, WE'RE STARTING TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE WITH THE MID ISLAND TRACK TODAY, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, SORT OF HEADING IN THIS DIRECTION, UH, UH, OF CREATING A MORE COMPACT WALKABLE, VIBRANT DISTRICT, UH, ADDRESSING THE VACANCY AND VITALITY, THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, NOT ALWAYS JUST SORT OF FOCUSING ON WHAT'S NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE, HOW DO WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY, UH, BROADENING THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, ABLE, UH, INTERCONNECTING BOTH SIDES OF THE PARKWAY TOGETHER.
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON EITHER SIDE REALLY SEAMLESSLY JOINING THEM TOGETHER, AND THEN PRESERVING AND INVESTING IN COMMUNITY, SERVING PARK, OPEN COMMUNITY SPACE AS A DISTRICT ANCHOR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KEY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MARKET CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVING THAT ANCHOR THAT COMMUNITY CATALYST IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, TO HAVING EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE DISTRICT SORT OF COME, COME TO LIFE.
UM, SO INVESTING IN THAT, THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
I'LL GIVE THE CLICKER HERE TO BRIAN, UH, BUT PAUSE HERE FOR ANY DISCUSSION.
UM, JUST A FEW ITEMS AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, WE RECOGNIZED THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS ALSO OVERLAID BY FEDERALLY ASSIGNED OPPORTUNITIES ZONES.
I WANT TO NOT VERY SMART ON WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT THE POTENTIALS ARE, OR, UH, THE PROS AND CONS, SO TO SPEAK.
SO I THINK IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A MORE TIGHTENED SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE INCLUDE THAT AND HELP US UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE, WHAT CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN, UM, WHEN IT RELATES TO OPPORTUNITY ZONES, UM, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE.
UM, I LIKED THOSE, UM, I WANTED TO JUST, UM, ADD, UM, TO THEM A BIT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUPPLY OF AVAILABLE HOUSING, YOU, YOU HAVE A, UM, I GUESS YOU HAVE A NUMBER IN HERE AS A PROJECTION AS TO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO BASED ON, UM, I GUESS A MARKET STUDY, NOT NECESSARILY GERMANE TO HILTON HEAD.
I THINK FOR US UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT IS SO KEY, NOT JUST WITH HOUSING, BUT AS COUNCILMAN STANFORD SAID WITH THE COMMERCIAL ALSO, UM, AND HELP US TO IDENTIFY THE GAPS, UM, AS WE PROJECT THOSE NUMBERS, THAT WOULD BE IN A BETTER PLACE, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
UM, WE, WE TOUCHED ON THE AIRPORT AND, UM, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, I KIND OF WANT TO CHANGE THE MESSAGING THERE.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE APPROACHING THE AIRPORT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE LIMITATIONS ARE FROM THE FAA, BUT I THINK IT'S NEEDS TO BE TURNED THE OTHER WAY WHERE WE'RE SAYING, WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS, AS FAR AS THE AIRPORT IS CONCERNED FOR US AS A COMMUNITY, WE DON'T WANT TO ADMIT ISLAND DISTRICT TO TURN INTO JUST AN AIRPORT, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AND, UM, I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER POINT THAT I WILL MAKE IS, UM, THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THIS ENTIRE DISTRICT IS SO IMPORTANT.
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UM, NOT MUCH OF WHAT WE'VE DRAWN LINES AROUND ARE PROTECTED BY, UM, AN OUTSIDE COVENANCE, LIKE A PUD.UM, SO THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, CRITICAL, UH, PARTICULARLY SINCE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OPEN LANE LEFT.
UM, SO, UM, HOW, HOW WE ASSURE PROTECTION OF QUALITY OF LIFE MOVING FORWARD, UM, FOR THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, I THINK IS, IS, UH, IS VITAL TO THIS.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT THAT'S CALLED OUT, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE.
AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THAT'S HOW MANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I'LL ASK ONE WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING MIXED USE OR SYNERGY USES, UM, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DRAWING LINES THAT HAVE IMPLICATIONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.
HOW DOES A TOWN INFLUENCE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO WHAT THE PLAN SETS OUT TO DO? YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
AND ALMOST EVERY COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE WORK.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT, UM, IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT W YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SAID WE WE'VE CERTAINLY ALL OBSERVED IT, BUT WE HEARD THIS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THESE ARE, UH, CONCERNS OF THEIRS IS, IS THE QUALITY OF, UH, OF THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS.
UM, I THINK PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MOST OPTIMISTIC VIEWPOINT IS WHEN YOU PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND MAYBE THEY, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, OR THEY SEE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING, UH, IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN THEY HAD BEEN IN THE PAST.
SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARILY SAYING THIS HAS TO HAPPEN THIS WAY.
WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO IT.
UH, HOPEFULLY IT'S AN OPENING, YOU KNOW, PORT PART OF A CONVERSATION DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME.
I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR PROPOSING IT.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND, AND ALSO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE, UH, ZONING OPPORTUNITIES, WE HAVE SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? SO ON AND SO FORTH THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO INFLUENCE IN A GOVERNMENT WAY, HOW PEOPLE SEE AN AREA, AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST PUBLIC CAPITAL DOLLARS TO ENHANCE THAT POSSIBILITY.
SO, ABSOLUTELY THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS A DETAIL, UM, WHEN MAYOR PEOPLES WAS, UH, MAYOR OF THE ISLAND, HE MADE A COMMITMENT, UM, IN HIS HEAD THAT WHILE HE WAS MAYOR, THERE'D BE 150 FOOT SETBACK, UM, FROM 2 78 RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, UH, SO I THINK, I THINK CONCEPTUALLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE, UH, TWO 70 EIGHTS, UH, DRIVING EXPERIENCE TO HAVE AS MUCH VEGETATION AS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCENT THOSE AREAS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF DOING, UH, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND TASTEFUL IN COMMERCIAL, BUT ALSO AS MUCH OF THAT, UH, TREE-LINED EXPERIENCE DOWN TO 78.
GETTING BACK TO MR. AMES QUESTION, AND I'LL JUMP IN FROM THE, FROM THE GOVERNMENT PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE GO ONCE WE HAVE THESE GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT, IT'S ABOUT SETTING A DISTRICT IN PLACE AS A REDEVELOPMENT REINVESTMENT DISTRICT.
WE CAN USE THAT TO BUILD OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, INTERSECTIONS, PATHWAYS, OPEN SPACES, WHATNOT, LAND ACQUISITIONS.
UM, WE CAN ALSO PUT IN PLACE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT IS THE INTENDED LAND USE.
WE CAN HELP PEOPLE, WE CAN ENTICE FOLKS TO REZONE UP DOWN SIDEWAYS DIFFERENT.
UM, WE CAN ALSO GO THROUGH A COMMUNITY WIDE REZONING, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, BUT IT'S AN OPTION, NOT, NOT PREFERRED ALWAYS, BUT AN OPTION.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN SET THE CONDITIONS IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE CALIBRATED TO ACCOMPLISH THE KEY VISIONS.
AND SO THERE'S A BIT OF A STEP 1, 2, 3.
AFTER THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP, ALIGN YOUR ZONING, PUT YOUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN PLACE, ACQUIRE, BUILD YOUR CAP PROJECT, SET YOUR CONDITIONS.
AND THIS IS THE BIG FIRST STEP.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S, THERE'S A PLAN AND JUST ONE LAST
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COMMENT, UH, UH, ANDREW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FIVE, UM, OR FOUR, UH, UH, THEMES, CATALYST WALKABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND UNIQUE IDENTITY.I THINK THOSE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, UH, AS GOALS AS THEMES OF, OF THIS PROJECT.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THE MASTER PLAN WILL BE COMPLETED IN THIS AREA? UH, WHAT'D HE SAY A WEEK TIME, 10 DAYS NOW, I KNOW I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE PROJECT MANAGER ON, ON SCHEDULE X TIME, BUT VINYL'S LEE.
WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THIS FORWARD WHEN HELP ME SOMEONE, HERE WE GO.
MAY I ALSO, UM, MAKE A COMMENT, UM, ON PAGE 28, THE MARKET ANALYSIS, IT'S AN INTERESTING SET OF NUMBERS AND POINTS.
I'M NOT SURE NECESSARILY WHERE THE DATA FROM THE ANNOUNCER FOR THE ANALYSIS CAME FROM, WHICH WOULD BE INTERESTING, BUT IT'S KIND OF THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IN SOME RESPECTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE LET HER SEE ON OUR DISCUSSION FOR TODAY AND WORK.
I THINK THAT HAS TO BE FIRST IS THE ISLAND-WIDE CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ASSESSMENT, WHICH STARTS TO SPEAK TO WHAT OUR REAL CAPACITY IS.
AND SO UNTIL WE HAVE THAT AS OUR FIRST STATUS DATA POINTS, THESE FIT INTO THAT, THIS DOESN'T DRIVE WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT.
I MEAN, IT'S TWO DECADES ABSORPTION I'LL POINT THAT OUT.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKED AT SORT OF WHAT, HOW MANY HOUSING STARTS THERE WERE LAST YEAR, THIS SORT OF LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S POPULATION GROWTH, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH KYLE WE'LL TOUCH ON HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO HOW MUCH, HOW MANY HOUSING STARTS WE EXPERIENCED AS A COMMUNITY.
SO I STARTED BAKING ALL THAT IN, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING OUT HERE AND LOOKING FOR HOMES FOR ALL OF THIS.
IT JUST TELLS US WHAT IS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE TIRED AND WORN OUT, OR WHAT MIGHT THEY BE REPLACED WITH.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT, UH, GIVES US A SENSE OF WHERE THE MARKET IS, WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY MIGHT BE.
UM, AND WE'D SORT OF GO FROM THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR PLACES TO SHOEHORN IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND I THINK THE KEY WORD OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, WAS REPLACED.
SO SOME OF THESE IS TAKING OUT WHAT IS NO LONGER SUITABLE YES.
AND REPLACING WITH SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE.
BUT I THINK THAT THE OVER ARCHING THOUGHT HAS TO BE, HOW DO WE PRESERVE OUR ISLAND? AND NUMBER IN THAT IS WHAT IS, AND WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY THAT WE'RE WILLING TO TOLERATE? AND I THINK THAT COMES FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, HOPEFULLY HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU SPEND ON THAT TODAY, TOO FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE I PICKED ON OFFICE.
NOW I'M SEEING INDUSTRIAL, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SMOKE, TACK SMOKE STACK ON THIS THAT'S THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW YOU DEFINE INDUSTRIAL.
UH, WE HAVE SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND A FEW AREAS, BUT VERY LIGHT.
AND SO, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP AND KIND OF REVISIT WHETHER WE REALLY LOOK TO A DEMAND OF THAT AMOUNT IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
IT WOULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THAT'S A POOR ICON.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE YOUR COMMENTS IN MIND.
NO SMOKESTACKS, NO SMOKESTACKS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS HEARING? NONE LET'S JUMP INTO THE MID ISLAND TRACT.
IF WE COULD, AGAIN, THESE TWO SEGMENTS ARE HAND IN GLOVE.
ONE FEEDS INTO THE OTHER, AS ANDREW HAD SUGGESTED WE COULDN'T HELP OURSELVES, BUT TO LOOK AT ASHMORE IN THE MID ISLAND, TRACT IS ONE, A LARGE PIECE OF TOWN OWNED OPEN SPACE THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE A PARKWAY THAT GOES THROUGH IT.
SO AS WE THINK ABOUT, UH, THESE PIECES OF GROUND AS FULLY OR LARGELY, UH, OPEN SPACE OR PARK SPACE, UH, WE, WE CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THE CONCEPT OF CREATING A PARKWAY THROUGH THE PARK TO DAVID'S COMMENT ABOUT A SETBACK FROM THE PARKWAY COULD NOT AGREE WITH, UH, WITH THAT COMMENT MORE, AS WE DRIVE PAST THE, UH, THE ASHMORE TRACT AS WE HAVE FOR YEARS, I'VE ALWAYS, UM, BEEN ENTHRALLED BY JUST HAVING THAT QUALITY OF OPEN SPACE ALONG THE, ALONG THE
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PARKWAY.BUT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A CENTRAL PARK FOR THE ISLAND THAT IS, UH, UH, DARE I SAY, UH, INTERRUPTS THE PARKWAY, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THE, AT THE MID ISLAND TRACK FROM A NATURAL SYSTEM STANDPOINT, THESE ARE SIMPLY SUMMARY SLIDES.
WE'VE GOT OPEN WATER, WE'VE GOT A STREAM CORRIDOR THAT HAS BEEN CHANNELIZED BY THE GOLF COURSE USAGE THAT WAS THERE BEFORE WE'VE GOT STRIPS OF, OF PLANT MATERIAL ON OPEN FAIRWAYS THAT ARE NOW GOING FALLOW.
UH, IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM MY LIPS BEFORE.
UH, IT IS ALSO A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GROUND HERE TO DEAL WITH.
YOU WILL, WE'LL SEE THAT THERE IS 100 YEAR AND 500 YEAR FLOOD, UH, ELEVATIONS.
SO THAT STARTS TO INFORM WHERE ENCLOSED USES CAN AND SHOULD HAPPEN ON THE, ON THE SITE.
WE'VE DONE A, UH, A LESS, A MORE SHALLOW DIVE INTO THE CONDITIONS THERE, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S, UH, STANDING, UH, WETLANDS THERE'S 500 YEAR AND 100 YEAR FLOOD ELEVATIONS.
THERE'S OPEN CHANNELS, THERE'S DISCHARGE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE SEWER PLANT OUTFALL CONDITIONS, UH, AND, UH, TREE COVER.
THERE'S ALSO SANITARY SEWER DISCHARGE, UH, TO THE, TO THE EAST.
SO THOUGH IT LOOKS TO THE CASUAL OBSERVER AS A WOODLOT, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON UNDERNEATH THOSE TREES.
HOWEVER, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WITHOUT BEING INVASIVE, I SPOKE TO THE SIZE OF THE MID ISLAND TRACT.
UH, AGAIN, ASH, MOORE'S 70 ACRES, UH, GROSSLY, UH, MID ISLANDS, 102 ACRES.
THAT'S A LOT OF REAL ESTATE, UH, FOR SAKE OF COMPARISON, I CONTINUE TO REFER TO FORSYTH PARK IN SAVANNAH BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR TO ALL OF US.
THAT PLACE HAS ALWAYS STRUCK ME AS BEING A SIZEABLE PARK BECAUSE IT IS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN URBAN PARK, IT'S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S 30 ACRES, UH, YOU KNOW, COMBINED, COMBINED REAL ESTATE WERE FIVE TO SIX TIMES LARGER THAN THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS FOR THE MID ISLAND, UH, THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH VARIOUS PUBLIC, UH, INPUT MEETINGS AND, UH, AND, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEB INTERACTION.
AND ALSO THE DIRECTIVES FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, COUPLED WITH OUR OWN EXPERIENCES, WHICH WE HAVE BROUGHT TO BEAR AS WELL.
WHAT MAKES QUALITY PLACES, UH, TOWN PLACES.
WE BROKEN THE PROGRAM DOWN INTO THREE GENERAL CATEGORIES, CIVIC AND CULTURAL NATURAL, WHICH IS MORE SPEAKING TO THE, UH, PASSIVE PARK AND ALSO RECREATION.
WHAT THE RECREATION OF PARKS MASTER PLAN SUGGESTS SHOULD BE IN THE MID ISLAND AREA ST.
UH, THE TOWN HAS COMMITTED TO A RELOCATION OF THAT FACILITY ON A FIVE ACRE TRACT ON UNION CEMETERY ROAD, UH, AS, AS PART OF THE MID ISLAND, UH, UH, ATTRACT, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN EVENT LAWN.
THIS IS NO WAY MEANT TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHER PARKS, BY THE WAY, WE'VE GOT A FINE, FINE PARK SYSTEM.
AND WE'VE BEEN VERY WELL-SERVED IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH GOOD PARK DESIGN AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.
UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO FILL THE GAPS, UH, WITH THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE OFFERED ISLAND WIDE, THAT BEING AN EVENT LAWN, A PLACE WHERE WE CAN CONGREGATE AS A COMMUNITY, THE PROVERBIAL CENTRAL PARK OF THE TOWN, IF YOU WILL, AGAIN, IT'S A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE USES.
UH, THE CONCOURSE IS IN THE PORT ROYAL, A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY HERE TO FOUR THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY, UH, THIS GOLF COURSE GROUND.
UH, WE THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A CAFE OR A RESTAURANT WITHIN THE PARK.
UH, I CONTINUE TO USE THE TAVERN ON THE GREEN, BUT VERNACULAR A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE IMMERSED INTO A, AN, AN OPEN SPACE, A GREEN SPACE, AND HAVE A PLACE FOR RESPITE, FOR FAMILIES TO TOGETHER OPPORTUNITY FOR FRUIT FOOD TRUCKS TO VISIT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK AND A LOT OF NOISE AND ACTIVITY, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INTRODUCE FOODSTUFFS ON A, ON A TRANSIENT BASIS, PAVILIONS OF ALL TYPE PLACES FOR FAMILIES AND GROUPS TO GATHER, TO GET OUT OF THE BEATING SUN, HAVE A SENSE OF PLACE, AGAIN, TO BE IMMERSED IN A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, COMMUNITY, CULTURAL GARDENS.
WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, THE
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NOTION OF A MONET GARDEN, A MORE FORMAL GARDENS, NOT JUST A, UH, NOT JUST IT'S NOT UNIMPORTANT, BUT SOMETHING THAT AUGMENTS THE NATURAL, UH, PARK, MORE PASSIVE PARK WITH, UM, UH, AN, AN ARBORETUM, UH, LOW COUNTRY, NATIVE PLANTS, GARDEN, UM, UH, VARIOUS LEVELS OF BOTANICAL GARDENS, THINGS THAT HAVE CONSTITUENCIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.THINGS THAT FOLKS WILL GET EXCITED ABOUT, BE INVOLVED WITH, AND IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE TO THE ISLAND TO ROUND OUT OUR CULTURAL OFFERINGS, THIS CULTIVATED LANDSCAPES.
THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO ALL BE, UM, UH, A NATURALIZED LET'S ALL OF THIS GO BACK TO NATURE.
AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE REAL ESTATE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN SATISFY A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS, OPEN AIR MARKET, A PLACE FOR US TO, UH, CONGREGATE, TO SHOW OFF WARES, TO SELL WARES OF STUFFS AND A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES FOR ANY NUMBER OF CONSTITUENCIES ACROSS THE ISLAND AND OBSERVATION TOWER.
I CONTINUED TO GO BACK TO THE SIZE AND THE, THE BEAUTY OF THIS PLACE.
UH, WE FOUND IT INCREDIBLY ATTRACTIVE AND IMPORTANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABOVE THE FRAY, AS IT WERE TO SEE THE EXPANSE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT, LITERALLY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FOREST, DESPITE THE TREES, AS IT WERE A SCULPTURAL FOUNTAIN, A PLACE TO PUT A, UH, UH, A CENTER POINT, A KNOWN PLACE WITHIN THE CENTER OF, UH, OF THIS OPEN SPACE IN THIS PARK.
AGAIN, I REFER TO FORSYTH PARK, WHICH YOU'LL SEE AN IMAGE OF IN HERE, UH, MULTI-USE COMMUNITY SPACE PLACES FOR OUR, UH, OUR CITIZENS, UH, TO, TO MEET FOR RECEPTIONS, FOR GATHERINGS, FOR FAMILY REUNIONS, FOR, UH, CHURCH GROUPS, FOR SERVICE FUNCTIONS, INDOOR OUTDOOR, IT SPILLS OUT INTO, UH, OPEN SPACE AND PARK.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN ONE PLACE.
IT CAN BE IN MULTIPLE PLACES, BUT A PLACE FOR US TO CONGREGATE AND EVENT GARDEN.
THIS IS MAYBE A SUBSET OF THE CULTIVATED LANDSCAPES.
WE FOUND AN INCREDIBLY ATTRACTIVE AND IMPORTANT TO HAVE PLACES IN OUTDOOR SETTINGS, ESPECIALLY THIS OUTDOOR SETTING ON THIS BEAUTIFUL ISLAND IN THIS, IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CLIMATE FOR WEDDINGS AND THE CEREMONIES AND SMALL GRADUATIONS AND, UH, AWARD CEREMONIES EVEN DARE I SAY, UH, PRIVATE, UM, SEMI-PRIVATE, UM, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT DINNER PARTIES IN A PUBLIC PLACE.
UH, THINK OF IT AS IT MAY BE A MORE SOPHISTICATED PAVILION SPACE.
AND THEN HOUSING WE'VE HEARD, UH, YOU HEARD FROM ANDREW'S LIPS, THE NEED FOR US TO ACCOMMODATE HOUSING WITHIN THE MID ISLAND, UH, DISTRICT THERE'S, UH, WE'VE WE'VE HAD FOLKS MENTIONED THAT TO US IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WE'VE GOT OPPORTUNITY.
WE'VE GOT THE SPACE CERTAINLY TO ACCOMMODATE HOUSING WITHIN THE MID ISLAND TRACT.
I'LL BE FORTHRIGHT TO SUGGEST THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING THAT AT THIS JUNCTURE.
WE THINK THERE'S BABY BETTER PLACES THAN TAKING UP THIS PRECIOUS OPEN SPACE FOR HOUSING, UH, AND STAYED TUNED.
IF WE'RE IN FACT, LOOKING AT ASHMORE AND THE, UH, MID ISLAND TRACT AS BEING ONE PIECE OF OPEN SPACE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF INTERSECTIONS THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH.
ONE OF WHICH IS NOT A, SO ONE COULD ARGUE THAT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CONNECTION IS, UH, A BIT STRESSED IN THAT REGARD.
AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A FREE FLOW FROM ONE SIDE OF THE, OF THE, UH, PARKWAY TO THE OTHER, NOT JUST FOR THE OPEN-SPACE PURPOSES, BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO BOTH OF THOSE PIECES OF OPEN SPACE.
THAT CAN BE A HIGHLY SCULPTURAL ELEMENT AS WELL, THAT SIGNIFIES THE CENTER OF THE ISLAND AS IT WERE.
AND BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, UH, YVETTE LAWN, WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED AS A UNIT ON AN EVENT, WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED? YES.
UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANY STRUCTURES.
THERE MAY BE STRUCTURES THAT JASON, THIS ISN'T SOME BIG PAVILION.
WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL, UM, COMMUNITY, UH, GATHERING AND ENTERTAINMENT SPACE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE LOW COUNTRY, UM, CELEBRATION PARK.
IT WOULD MAYBE BE THAT OPEN SPACE WITHOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES ADJACENT, AGAIN, A PLACE FOR 4TH OF JULY, LABOR DAY, MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATIONS, CHURCH GROUPS, UH, ART FAIRS, WHATEVER IT IS, THE COMMUNITY MIGHT NOT SOCCER FIELDS.
NOW, IF, IF TWO KIDS GO OUT THERE AND START KICKING A SOCCER BALL, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SHOOT THEM AWAY.
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NOT GOING TO ORGANIZE SPORTS ON THAT ACTIVE.UM, HISTORICAL ASTERICK, UM, CHARLES FRAZIER ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HAVING A MONET GARDEN ON THE ISLAND.
IS THAT SOMEWHAT THE SAME THING AS AN EVENT GARDEN OR A GARDEN? I THINK IT'S MORE OF THE CULTURAL GARDENS.
AND AGAIN, DAVID THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EACH OF THOSE.
UM, BUT THE MONET GARDEN, A FORMAL GARDEN IT'S ONE COULD ARGUE, IT HAS A LIMITED CONSTITUENCY, BUT YOU, YOU WON'T, BUT MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE AMAZED AT JUST HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO THAT TYPE OF SOPHISTICATED LANDSCAPE.
UM, MONET'S TALENT, UH, AT LEAST AS HE ENVISIONED IN HIS PAINTINGS, UH, WAS VERY NATURALIZED, BUT MULTICOLORED, AND IT WAS IN AN, IN ONE WAY, QUINTESSENTIAL HILTON HEAD.
SO I JUST HAD THAT, UH, AS THEY SAY, A RELAXED FORMALITY, BUT, BUT I GET IT'S THAT TYPE OF INTENTIONAL GARDEN SPACE OF ANY NUMBER OF ILK STAY TUNED.
WE'LL DEVELOP THAT FURTHER AS WE GO, BUT IT IS SOMETHING IN DEFERENCE TO NATURALIZING THE ENTIRE TRACT.
BRIAN, IF I MAY, WHAT'S YOUR CREATIVE IDEA ABOUT, UH, CREATING A CONNECTIVITY WITH THE ASHMORE TRACK? IF WE CAN'T USE IT, MAYBE WE CAN'T USE IT IN SOME PASSIVE WAYS.
IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GOING? YES, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
I COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE ASHMORE TRACT FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF PARKS USAGE IS RESTRICTED AND THAT'S THE FULL AND COMPLETE EXTENT OF MY KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
I THINK THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE PLACE IS PROBABLY MORE RESTRICTED THAN ANYTHING.
SO WHATEVER WE DO THERE, WE HAVE TO TOUCH LIGHTLY I IN MY VISION.
AND WE'LL EXPLORE THAT IN A MOMENT.
I THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTENTIONALLY INTRODUCE PEOPLE TO THAT TRACKED CAREFULLY SENSITIVELY AND ALLOW FOR US TO USE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT BEING USING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY MEANS TO CIRCULATE THROUGH IT WITH A SOFT SURFACE TRAIL SYSTEM.
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT INVASIVE IS NOT DAMAGE OR DESTROY THE ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO, UH, BE ENGAGED WITH THAT ENVIRONMENT TO START CUTTING DOWN TREES AND PLACING, UM, STRUCTURES.
THAT'S A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT, IF I CAN JUST, UM, ASK THE SAME QUESTION, UM, UM, WHAT FOR ME WOULD BE, UM, WONDERFUL TO HAVE IN THIS PARK.
UM, WHICH OF THESE AREAS WOULD YOU IMAGINE SOMETHING, UM, UH, ON A SMALLER SCALE, UM, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE PERFORMANCES SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK, PLACES FOR READINGS, QUIET PLACES TO SIT AND CONTEMPLATE, WHICH OF THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEFINED, WOULD YOU IMAGINE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING REALLY SEPARATE? THAT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST? WELL, I'VE GOT