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COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2021 SECOND.
HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE HEARING THE, YEAH, THERE WE GO.
IT WAS A LITTLE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE ROOM THERE, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU, UH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HA IF YOU HAD SOME THINGS SPECIFIC THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS.
UM, I JUST HAD A FEW, UM, A FEW TALKING POINTS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT WORK WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THE TOWN TO BRING UP.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE I'M HERE FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, SO JUST TO BRING YOU ALL UP TO SPEED ON KIND OF THE LEVEL OF REV, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THE TOWN, I'M JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE RECENT NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
UM, SO TO START OFF, UM, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, THE PORT OF PORT ROYAL WAS RECENTLY SOLD TO SAFE HARBOR MARINAS.
UM, PART OF THAT SALE INCLUDES, UM, A DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR 575 DWELLING UNITS THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE.
UM, 90 OF THOSE UNITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE TOWN, UM, IN THE FORM OF A SUBDIVISION, UM, AND THEN MOVING INTO OTHER MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S OCCURRING IN THE TOWN.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED, UM, FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED THE OAKS AT BATTERY CREEK FOR 197 DWELLING UNITS.
UM, THE RESERVE AT BATTERY CREEK, WHICH IS ON, UM, JUST SOUTH OF WRIGHT'S POINT IS APPROVED, ARE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED FOR 214 DWELLING UNITS.
AND SINCE, UH, THE END OF JUNE, 2021, WE HAVE APPROVED JUST SHY OF 100 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON INDIVIDUAL, LOTS IN THE TOWN.
UM, SO I DID NOT ADD THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER, UH, BUT WE ARE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST OVER A THOUSAND, UM, UNITS THAT ARE, THAT ARE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED OR APPROVED.
UM, AT THIS TIME, UH, PAST THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EIGHT SEPARATE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY, UM, THEY ARE IN VARIOUS STAGES OF THE REVIEW PIPELINE.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE JUST CONVERSATIONS ON THE LAYOUT OF A SITE AND HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE FIT.
UM, OTHERS ARE A FEW STEPS PAST THAT.
UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENT IS CONSTANTLY ON THE WAY RIGHT NOW, AND IT HAS NOT SLOWED DOWN.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY OR WITH THE TOWN I USED TO BE WITH THE COUNTY.
NOW I'M WITH THE TOWN AND THE TOWN, UH, HAS EXPERIENCED NO BREAK FROM THE KIND OF THE ONSLAUGHT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE ALSO STILL HAVE ONE MORE PHASE I'M IN THE SHADOW MOSS SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT OUT.
AND SHELL POINT FARMS ON SAVANNAH HIGHWAY HAS RECENTLY STARTED A NEW PHASE
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AND IS PERMITTING NEW HOMES THAT ARE PRETTY RAPID RATE.UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I REALLY WANTED TO TOUCH ON, UM, BEFORE WE, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION IS, IS JUST THE POPULATION GROWTH IN OUR TOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE LAST 10 YEARS WE'VE SEEN A 24%, UH, UH, GROWTH IN OUR POPULATION.
SO WE'RE AS OF 2021, THE CENSUS DATA WAS AT 13,200 AND, UH, SOME CHANGE.
AND SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SAME RATE OF GROWTH, WE WOULD SEE ABOUT 16,500, UH, PEOPLE LIVING IN THE TOWN BY 2030.
UM, THAT COUPLED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE LOCATIONS OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING, SOME OF WHICH ARE RIGHT NEAR THE HEART OF THE PORT ROYAL VILLAGE, UM, FOR KIDS WHO, YOU KNOW, KIDS WHO WOULD BE ZONED FOR PORT ROYAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, AND THEN ALSO OF COURSE, OUT ON THE WESTERN PART OF TOWN, UM, THE, THE AMOUNT OF THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING OUT THERE IS GOING TO KIND OF JUST POP UP OUT OF NOWHERE IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS.
SO SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAD FOR YOU.
NUMBERS WISE, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WAS JUST A LOGGING IN, AS YOU STARTED, WHERE I STARTED WRITING DOWN NUMBERS, YOU SAID 197 UNITS.
IT WAS AT AN APARTMENT THAT IS A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWN HOME.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE TWO 14? IS THAT AT THE PRESERVED, THAT'S THE RESERVE AT BATTERY CREEK? THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PART THAT'S UNDEVELOPED RIGHT NEXT TO RIGHT RIGHTS POINT.
AND IS THERE, ARE THOSE APARTMENTS, ALL STUFF WILL BE APARTMENTS, CORRECT.
UM, YOU SAID A HUNDRED SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, UM, PERMITTED IN ABOUT THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
SO THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL LOTS ON TOP OF A MULTI-FAMILY OR A NEW SUBDIVISIONS.
THE VERY FIRST THING YOU SAID WAS HOW MANY, HOW MANY HOMES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE, UM, NEW REDESIGN TO THE PORT.
SO TOTAL DWELLING UNITS, UM, AND THAT DOES NOT, THAT'S NOT, THERE'S NO SPECIFICATION ON THE TYPE OF HOUSING FOR THOSE 500.
FOR THOSE BUILDING UNITS IS 575.
UM, THE PORT BLUFF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS SUBDIVIDED, UM, WAS 90 LOTS, UM, THAT KIND OF HALTED IN THE REVIEW PROCESS ONCE, YOU KNOW, NEW, THE NEW SALE WAS STARTING TO GO THROUGH.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE REWORKED, BUT AT, AT THIS MOMENT, 90 SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS ARE SLATED FOR THE, THE BLUFF.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE COMING UP WITH THE THOUSAND, THAT 5 75 PLUS TWO.
SO, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT OCCUR WITH THOSE 575 UNITS.
SO JUST ANECDOTALLY, THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE OF THOSE 5 75 TO NOT NECESSARILY BE HEAVILY, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
UM, CAROL CAMPBELL, YOU, YOU MENTIONED IN A PROFILE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
DO YOU SEE ANY, UM, FURTHERMORE WE'LL PULL ROYAL GOING OUT, SO ALL THE AREAS, AS FAR AS ANNEX, UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY ANYMORE.
UM, IN FACT, I THINK THE PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS THE, THE ANNEXATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ENCOURAGED BY THE TOWN, UM, AND THAT WE STILL, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HELP PEOPLE THROUGH THAT ANNEXATION PROCESS IF THEY'D LIKE TO REQUEST TO ANNEX, BUT WE DON'T REALLY DO ANY, UH, MARKETING FOR THAT ANYMORE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE, UM, LIKE A PRICE POINT FOR ANY OF THESE OR ANY INFORMATION ON WHO THE TARGET MARKET MIGHT BE FOR THESE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, THOSE 90 LOTS MAY NOT, OR THE 575 MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE ALL, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AGE, OR MIDDLE SCHOOL,
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BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE TARGET MARKET FOR THE, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PORT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I JUST ANYTHING, I MEAN, WHAT, JUST, IF YOU COULD JUST SHARE SOME INFORMATION MIGHT HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE RESERVE AT BATTERY CREEK, WHICH IS THE ONE BY RIGHTS POINT, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S APARTMENT BUILDINGS.THEY, IF THEY'RE SLATED AS, YOU KNOW, 12 OR 18 UNIT BUILDINGS, BUT, UH, JUST SPEAK CANDIDLY, MOST MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW LOVE SAYING THE WORD LUXURY APARTMENTS, NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE LIKE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY GO THROUGH THEIR MARKET ANALYSIS WITH THEM.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY WHO THEY WOULD REALISTICALLY BE MARKETING IT TO GENERALLY, IF YOU'RE SEEING THE WORD LUXURY APARTMENTS, UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN BET THAT FOLKS WITH FAMILIES ARE, ARE MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.
AND THERE'LL BE CLOSE TO MARKET RATE IF NOT MARKET RATE.
THERE WAS A SINGLE FAMILY, THEY ARE A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWN HOME.
AND THEN THE TWO HUNDREDS, TWO 14 DUST.
I WILL SAY, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP, I WON'T THROW MORE NUMBERS AT YOU, BUT JUST, UM, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT AREN'T FAR ENOUGH THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS TO GIVE YOU UNIT NUMBERS OR A REAL NAME OR ANYTHING, UM, ONE OF THEM IS THE, IS THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PRESERVE APARTMENTS? UM, CORRECT.
UM, THERE IS ANOTHER SMALLER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN THE EARLY STAGES OF REVIEW, ALSO ALONG REBO ROAD AT THE CORNER OF REBO AND RICHMOND AVENUE.
UM, AND THEN TWO MAJOR LARGER MULTI-FAMILIES ARE BOTH ON GROVER HILL.
UM, THEY'RE IN VARIOUS STAGES OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, BUT THEY'RE BOTH ON GROVER HILL ON THE OLD GOLF COURSE PROPERTY.
AND SO THOSE DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICIAL APPROVALS YET.
THEY'RE STILL IN THE STAGE OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING SITE LAYOUTS AND UNIT NUMBERS AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, UM, TAKEN CARE OF WITH ME BEFORE THEY GO INTO FULL APPROVALS BY THE, BY OUR ENGINEER AND BUILDING OFFICIALS AND SO FORTH.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY TIMEFRAMES FOR ANY OF THESE? LIKE, ARE WE TALKING AND PERHAPS YOU SAID IT EARLIER AND I APOLOGIZE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ARE YOU SAYING THAT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THESE 1000 UNITS MIGHT BE UP AND RUNNING? OR DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY PROJECTIONS I COULD, I MEAN, RE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM, INCLUDING THE RESERVE, WHICH IS THE 214 ARE NEARING COMPLETION.
THE, SO THE, THE, THE 1 97 AND THE TWO 14 COULD BE FULLY APPROVED IN THE NEXT MONTH, AS LONG AS THEY GET THERE, THE REMAINING OUTLYING ITEMS TO ME FROM, UM, OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT WE'RE WAITING ON.
UM, SO THAT'S 300, OR I'M SORRY, UH, 400 DECEMBER 400, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REMAINDER OF THAT NUMBER THAT I THREW OUT, IT'S REALLY UP IN THE AIR AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE D ON THE DEVELOPERS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED THAT CAVEAT IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER EIGHT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PIPELINE, THEY, I HAVE NO GUARANTEES THAT THEY WILL FOLLOW THROUGH AND BE COMPLETED.
UM, BUT THE PORT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE 5 75 AND THOSE OTHER TWO THAT ARE RIGHT AROUND 200, I WOULD SAY WITHIN, WITHIN TWO YEARS FOR THE, FOR THE TWO, 200, UH, APARTMENT SLASH SINGLE FAMILY COMPLEXES, AND THEN THE 575 UNITS ON THE PORT, IT COULD BE EIGHT TO 10 YEARS UNTIL YOU SEE A LOT OF DWELLING UNITS OUT, UM, ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND THE AND THE, UH, YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE, FARMS I CAN CATCH THE BEGINNING SHAREPOINT FARMS. THOSE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION PHASE, OR, YEAH, WELL, SO SHADOW
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MOSS IS IN ITS FINAL PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION.UM, SO ONCE THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE DONE AND YOU WON'T SEE THE BANNERS ANYMORE FOR THEM TO KEEP ADVERTISING THE NEXT PHASE.
UM, AND THEN SHELL POINT FARMS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE JUST STARTED THEIR NEXT LARGE PHASE, WHICH IS I THINK THE THIRD PHASE.
UM, AND TO BE HONEST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M NOT SURE IF THREE IS THE FINAL OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, UM, AS IT WAS, IT WAS APPROVED BEFORE I WAS HERE.
AND I HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE AFTER THIS PHASE.
I THINK YOU'RE OFF TO DO WE HAVE A WAY OR A FORUM WHERE WE CAN TRANSLATE THIS INFORMATION INTO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE IMPACT WILL BE ON OUR SCHOOLS.
I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR ROBERT, UM, LIKE, HEY, I GOT IT.
UM, CAN YOU, HIS QUESTION WAS, DO WE HAVE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THEIR NUMBERS AND WHY IT SHOWS UP AT OUR SCHOOLS? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE, SO THAT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS.
AND I THINK MS. FIDGET QUESTION ASKING ABOUT SORT OF WHERE THE MARKETING, WHAT, WHAT THE PRICE POINT IS GOES INTO THAT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, BY COMPARING ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE OTHER EIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD OF EQUAL VALUE, SORT OF IN THE PRICE POINT, WE CAN SEE WHAT IS GENERATED IN THE PAST, OR CURRENTLY SORT OF EQUATED TO THAT, TO COME UP WITH A, YOU KNOW, A PERCENTAGE POINT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY BILL 500 HOMES, WE'LL KNOW, WE'LL GET, YOU KNOW, 10% STUDENTS IN THERE NOW YOU CAN CALCULATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF WHAT OUR PROJECTION MODEL DOES BECAUSE IT LOOKS AT HOW MANY KIDS LIVE IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT CALCULATES THAT COHORT SURVIVAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT UNTIL THEY SHOW UP UNTIL THEY BUILD THE HOUSES IT'S ANYBODY'S GUESS.
I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD TRANSLATE THAT SOMEHOW INTO, UH, INTO A POTENTIAL IMPACT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT PORT ROYAL IS, UM, HAVING EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.
IT SEEMS THAT WAY TO ME, AS I DRIVE THROUGH, UM, SO FAR MODEL, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES CARE OF THAT THEN GREAT.
ON THEN THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL BIG OF US, LIKE ANECDOTAL STUFF.
THIS IS A BOAT, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.
BUT I ENJOYED THE DISCUSSION ANYTHING.
WELL, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE'RE DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITION TO PORT ROYAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE PART OF THAT DESIGN DISCUSSION.
AND THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
UM, WELL SAY FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT, AND I'M SPEAKING JUST FOR THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY IN NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY, UM, WE ARE, UM, I GUESS, MUCH MORE MODEST, UH, PROJECTION OF GROWTH THAT THAT'S BASED ON DESIGN.
UM, ONE OF THE, IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF BUFORD, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR LAND USE SCHOOLS DIRECT GROWTH INTO THE MUNICIPALITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TRY TO KEEP PARTS OF OUR COUNTY WE'RE RURAL.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE GROWTH YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS GOING TO BE IN BUFORD AND PORT ROYAL, BUT WE STILL HAVE DEVELOPMENT INTO COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS LIKE LADIES' ISLANDS, YOU KNOW, THAT WHICH WERE LARGELY DEVELOPED IN UNINCORPORATED BUFORD COUNTY, NOT IN THE MUNICIPALITIES, UM, SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS TO BE MINDFUL OF, UH, ON LADY'S ISLAND.
I WOULD JUST SAY THE LARGEST WOULD BE GLEASON FARMS AND MISSES ON THE, UM, THE
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OLD GREEN HEATH TRACT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED ACRES, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S SITUATED BEHIND COOSAW ELEMENTARY.UM, YOU KNOW, IN THAT PROJECT, IT'S A MONGO HOMES, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF 187 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
UM, THEY SEEM TO BE PRICED IN SUCH A WAY THAT I THINK THAT THE, THE WEBSITE ADVERTISES THE LOW 300 SEEM TO BE AN AREA THAT, THAT COULD GENERATE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF, OF, UM, OF KUSAMA ELEMENTARY.
THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WE DID A PLAN FOR LADY'S ISLAND SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THERE IS STILL A CAPACITY WITHIN OUR EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS OF APPROXIMATELY 600, UM, SOME DIVIDED, BUT UNDEVELOPED LOTS.
SO JUST SCATTERED AROUND THE ISLAND, IF WE DIDN'T APPROVE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE STILL HAVE UNDEVELOPED PLANTED, LOTS THAT COULD BE BUILT ON, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S JUST STILL, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SLOW DOWN THE GROWTH ON LADY'S ISLAND, JUST BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND MOST OF THAT IS IN NORTHERN LADY SILENCE.
UM, THERE ARE TWO MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES.
UM, THEY'RE BOTH, UM, LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PRODUCT CHECKS.
ONE IS LOCATED IN LAUREL BAY AND BAY PINES ROADS.
UM, AND THEY'RE PROJECTING 218 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THERE.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, ON POSSUM HILL ROAD, JUST BEHIND A BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL WITH 80 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
UM, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THEIR PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE LOW LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, BUT THEIR FIRST STEP IS GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT STAGE.
AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE, UM, GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, THE OTHER LARGE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY IS, YOU KNOW, HABERSHAM IS STARTING TO APPROACH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH HAVE SOLD OFF ALL THEIR LOTS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE FUTURE PHASES OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT 430 ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS.
IT COULD BE PLANTED IN, UM, A FUTURE PHASE OF HABERSHAM AND THEN ACROSS CHEROKEE FARMS, ROADS, UM, THERE'S, UH, CHEROKEE FARMS OVER THERE.
SO THAT'S POTENTIAL OF, YOU KNOW, 437 ADDITIONAL HOUSES IN THAT AREA.
UM, ONE PROJECT THAT YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED IT'S NOT LARGE, BUT IT'S NOT IN AN AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT USUALLY SEES THIS LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT ACROSS, UM, UH, STUART POINT ROAD FROM, UH, WHALE BRANCH, UH, MIDDLE AND ELEMENTARY IS THAT A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION CALLED TEAL BLUFF.
UM, AND THAT'S 45 LOTS OVER THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST A SCALE THAT'S NOT USUALLY SEEN IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SEABROOK STEWART POINT AREA.
ONE THING TO BE MINDFUL OF LOOKING OUT ON THE HORIZON IS THAT THERE IS A LARGE UNDEVELOPED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CALLED BURLINGTON, WHICH IS LOCATED JUST NORTH OF HABERSHAM, KIND OF BETWEEN HABERSHAM AND LAUREL BAY ALONG BROAD RIVER.
AND IT'S SAT THERE DORMANT FOR MANY YEARS, IT'S APPROVED FOR A THOUSAND UNITS, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO HEAR INTEREST, UH, FROM, FROM DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS IN, IN LOOKING AT POTENTIAL DEVELOPING THAT SITE THAT COULD REALLY CHANGE IF IT DEVELOPED AT THAT FULL CAPACITY, REALLY CHANGE THE DYNAMICS IN THAT PART OF BURTON.
UM, IT, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE MODERATE GROWTH IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY, BUT ON ST.
HELENA ISLANDS, UM, NORTH OF THE WHALE BRANCH RIVER, YOU KNOW, NOTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE, THE GENERAL, UM, PACE OF GROWTH THAT THEY'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED.
BUT, UM, WITH THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, WHAT ABOUT ANNEXATION, AS FAR AS YANCY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, THE MSC HAS BEEN AN X-WING, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK PROACTIVELY WITH THEIR STAFF TO DEFINE A GROWTH BOUNDARY.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, SO OUR, THE LAND THAT THEY'VE ANNEXED HAVE ALL BEEN UNDER PROTECTION AND CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
SO IT'S NOT, WOULDN'T NONE OF IT WOULD RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT,
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YOU KNOW, UM, POPULATION GROWTH IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO ANNEX OTHER PROPERTIES.UM, RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY THAT THAT MAYBE THE MARKET IS NOT QUITE OUT THERE, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH THEIR TOWN STAFF AND TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF MOC ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS WHAT WE SEE IS APPROPRIATE GROWTH FOR THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.
SO, MR. MERCHANT, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING THE PRICE POINT FOR THAT TEAL BLUFF? I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW.
I, UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED IT UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOCKS ARE KIND OF THEY'RE, THEY'RE LARGE SLOTS.
UM, THEY, THEY BACK UP TO A MARSH, SO I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET, YOU KNOW, HIGHER END, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE ACCESS TO THE MARSH, UM, THAT I COULD LOOK INTO THAT.
WELL, I WENT LAST TIME I DROVE PAST IT, I THOUGHT OF THE SIGN.
IT SAID SOMETHING AROUND 3, 3 50.
UM, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE THAN 45 LOTS.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THE LOT SIZE IS OUT THERE WHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE A BIGGER LOT SIZE.
YEAH, I THINK THERE, THEY AVERAGE ABOUT HALF ACRE.
UM, SO HOW FAR, HOW FAR ALONG IS GLEASON FARMS? WELL, THEY HAVE GOTTEN CONCEPTION APPROVAL, OR I BELIEVE THEY HAVE FINAL APPROVAL FOR PHASE ONE, BUT THEY HAVE NOT PLANTED THE LOTS YET.
SO I'M NOT AWARE OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING THOUGH IS WITH THESE PRODUCTION, THERE, THERE'S SUCH A UP DEMAND FOR, FOR NEW HOUSING AND WITH THESE PRODUCTION PRODUCTION TO HOME BUILDERS, ONCE THEY GET STARTED, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A DEMAND, THEY, THEY MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACE THAT OYSTER BLUFF DEVELOPED OR OSPREY POINT OR, I MEAN, NAILA AND BLUFF, UH, DOWNLOAD ONE 70 BY OAK OAK AT T ELEMENTARY, THOSE ARE DEVELOPING REALLY FAST.
AND I ANTICIPATE ONCE MONGO HOMES GETS STARTED AT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT GLEASON FARMS, IT'S GOING TO MOVE AT A SIMILAR PACE.
IS THAT CALLED UP? OR YOU STIR UP WHAT'S THE HOUSE, EVEN THE DR.
HORTON DEVELOPMENT? I THINK SO.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE THAT'S OKAY.
YEAH, THEY, THEY HAPPENED WITHIN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TWO OR THREE YEAR TIMEFRAME.
IT WAS FAIRLY QUICK DAVID CORNER.
UH, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON EARL'S QUESTION.
UM, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE MSC WANTING TO BE ANNEXED INTO BUFORD COUNTY, AND THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON US BECAUSE THERE'S A SCHOOL THERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE TO ABSORB AS THERE ANY MORE TALK ABOUT THAT.
I AM NOT AWARE OF WHERE THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING.
IT'S PRIMARILY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN ORDER TO MOVE THOSE BOUNDARIES, IT WOULD MEAN, UM, BOTH BUFORD COUNTY AND HAMPTON COUNTY AGREEING TO, YOU KNOW, THE, DOING A COUNTYWIDE REFERENDUM TO MOVE THE, THE, THE, THE COUNTY BOUNDARIES.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING DONE AS EASILY AS, AS A MUNICIPALITY AND X-WING, UM, BUT, UH, THERE, UM, HIS NAME JUST ESCAPES ME, UM, THAT MATTHEW GARDENS WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON TO CONTACT IN THE TOWNS TO SEE WHERE THAT EFFORT IS.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DOWN THE ROAD FAR ENOUGH THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT IN A FIVE-YEAR HORIZON, BUT, UH, YEAH, I KNOW THERE WAS A LITTLE, A LITTLE TURMOIL ABOUT IT, SO I JUST WONDERED IF ANYBODY KNEW ANYMORE.
DAVID THING, REALLY SEE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING FUNDS.
THEY'VE GOT TO RAISE PRETTY CLOSE TO A MILLION DOTS BEFORE THEY CAN EITHER DO ANYTHING.
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SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, SO THAT'S YEAH.A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF MONEY FOR AMNESTY.
I WAS JUST WORRIED BECAUSE THAT WOULD FLOOD US WITH, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UH, MR. CRUTCHFIELD AND ROBERT, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES ALL THIS SAY TO YOU GUYS NOW, BUT JUST HEARING THIS JUST DISCUSSION WISE, WHAT DOES IT SAY TO YOU THAT NOTHING IN STONE, BUT HOW THESE NEW NUMBERS FOR YOU ARE THESE ALL MEMBERS? DID YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE DAVID ASKED OF THE FORMULA.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT IS, BUT I DID KNOW ABOUT, I DID NOT KNOW THE NUMBER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PORT ROYAL, SO THAT THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING A LOT ALL THE TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, TALK TO THE COUNTY, UM, NOW ONE JUST GOT TO THE, TO THE TOWN.
SO, AND I KNOW HE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY, ACTUALLY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE SOMETHING, AN ONGOING CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE.
UM, IT JUST, IT DOES HELP TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE SO I CAN PAY MORE ATTENTION TO WATCH THEM.
ONE, I ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SCHOOL.
UM, LAST SUMMER WHO SLEPT BEHIND, BEHIND THE DEVELOPER WITH, UH, MONGO HOMES WALKED OVER, HE WAS, UM, WANTING TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL.
SO I KIND OF TOLD HIM ABOUT OUR ZONING THING THAT WE COULD DO, THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY ZONE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SOMEWHERE ELSE, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL AND THEY STILL WANTED TO DEVELOP THAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WATCH, BUT THEY HADN'T BUILT A HOUSE YET.
LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE EITHER.
SO I THINK DAVID, WHEN HE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, KIND OF HIT IT ON THE HEAD.
IT'S REALLY ANECDOTAL BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING TO WATCH OUT FOR IT.
AN EXAMPLE IS AT OTT, THE MAIL AND BLUFF IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, THEY, THAT IS AN INDICATION TO US.
SO HEY, POLKA DI IS, UM, GETTING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TOO FULL, BUT THAT'S GOING TO FILL IT OUT.
IT'S KIND OF THE, IT'S THE SAME THING WHO SAYS THAT, WHO SAYS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT JUST TELLS US TO BE MINDFUL TO WATCH THAT GROW TO A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT IT REALLY YOU'RE GUESSING AS COMPARED TO WHAT WE DO IS REALLY ACCOUNT WHAT CAROL DOES.
HE'S COUNTING THE, THE KIDS THAT COME IN THE SEATS AND WATCH THOSE TRENDS IN INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND ADD THOSE TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S DONE REALLY WELL FOR US, BUT IT DOES GIVE US INDICATION OF AREAS.
WE KIND OF NEED TO WATCH A LITTLE CLOSER AND BE KNOWLEDGEABLE.
AND THEN THE MONGO HOLMES IS DEAD.
AND THE ONE BEHIND THE SNAKE RIVER OAKS OR SOMETHING, AGAIN, THOSE BOTH COULD HAVE HUGE IMPACTS ON THEM.
AND AS YOU, AS YOU GO IN PORT ROYAL, WE HAVE CAPACITY TO ABSORB.
I MEAN, SO THIS IS ALL GOOD STUFF.
IT'S JUST THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, AND BEFORE IS INTERESTING, OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, FOR 10 YEARS WE'VE HEARD IT'S 10 YEARS AWAY.
SO AT WHAT POINT IS IT ACTUALLY MOVE? WE'LL ALL.
JUST HAVE TO WATCH IT AND SEE THE BIG QUESTION.
WE'VE GOT THE DRIVER ONE BEHIND.
SO, UM, BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO LOOK AT IS, UM, HOW IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BUFORD CLUSTER AS A WHOLE DOING THE, BECAUSE IF THERE ARE WAYS IN BUFORD TO MOVE THOSE STUDENTS AS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET A LITTLE CROWDED, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY NORTHERN BEATRICE COUNTY, IT'S JUST, YOU MAY HAVE TO REARRANGE.
SO I WOULD NOT BE RECOMMENDING IN THOSE SCHOOLS, EVEN IF THAT FILLS UP, DID YOU WRITE DOWN WHAT THE NUMBER WAS? HE SAID THAT THERE IS STILL CAPACITY WHEN EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS, UH, THERE UNDERPLANTED VELOCITY STAYED THERE, LIKE STILL 600.
IS THAT THE NUMBER? OKAY, GREAT.
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YEAH.MOSTLY IN ORDER YOU SAID, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN ANTICIPATED FOR SOME TIME TO BE DEVELOPED TO IT'S BEEN GOING VERY SLOW.
YEAH, WELL, HONESTLY, AND THAT'S WHY WE PURCHASED THE LAND BACK IN 2000 6, 7, 8, WHENEVER WE BOUGHT IT, YOU KNOW, LADIES, ALL OF IT'S FLOODED AGAIN AT THAT TIME, WE REALLY ANTICIPATED THAT.
IT CONTINUED, BUT WHEN THAT FOUND TURN BACK IN THAT TIMEFRAME, NOW, IT JUST, IT DIDN'T BOUNCE BACK WITH STUDENTS AND THEY, THOSE SIX FENDER.
AND WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY OF THOSE 600 DON'T COULD BE ONE, COULD BE SIX, UNDERSTAND.
IT'D BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT IT'S MARKET DRIVEN THE WAY IT IS.
YOU JUST WANT, YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT SURELY BE AWARE OF AND BE MINDFUL AND WATCH IT.
I THINK GIRL, UM, THE CONVERSATION ON LADY'S ISLAND, IF WE HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY AND THE ABILITY TO MOVE THINGS AROUND, DO WE NEED THAT LAND? OKAY.
UH, I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
NOT THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT PUTTING UP FOR SALE.
THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE.
AND THEN, UH, SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY HAVE A THANKS.
DAVID, I KNOW THAT THAT SPRINGFIELD ROAD, I, SOMETHING, I BROUGHT UP A CUP ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
SO IT'D BE VERY INTERESTING WHEN OUR VAN CONSULTANT BRINGS US BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S.
I MEAN, WHAT I'D SAY IS ONE THINGS OF WHAT WE HEARD TODAY.
I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES ANY OF THE MAJOR TRENDS.
WE'RE SAYING IT MAY SOFTEN SOME OF THEM, NOTHING DRAMATIC IS CORRECT.
I, UM, AS FAR AS UTILIZING THE CAPACITY OF OUR CURRENT SCHOOLS, I THINK THAT SOME OF THIS IS, UM, ENCOURAGING, IT'S ENCOURAGING AS OPPOSED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT HEARING THAT THERE IS THIS MUCH IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE PLANS OR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FIVE OR 10 YEARS OUT, WHICH REALLY IS NOT A LONG TIME, IT'S JUST NOT A LONG TIME.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S ENCOURAGING BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE CAPACITY NORTH ABROAD.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S, UM, YOU DID SAY YOU HAVE A, ON THIS STUDENTS, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO SCHOOL IN, IN EACH AREA, BUT ALL THE LIST, I'M NOT GOING TO LIST THE STUDENTS THAT I GIVE YOU THE ACCOUNTS.
SHE CAN SEND IT ALL OUT TO, UM, NEXT IS UPDATE ON SCHOOL.
THERE'S A, CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SO, UM, SPEAKING ABOUT STUDENTS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO ATTEND SCHOOL, UM, IS THERE, HAS ANYBODY HEARD ANY NEW INFORMATION ON ANY NEW PRIVATE OR CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT ARE OPENING UP NORTH OF THE BROAD? I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT MADE ANY PROGRESS.
DAVID, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? I'M SORRY.
OR WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I WAS HELENA.
UM, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ACTION.
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YEAH.YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, AND, AND I JUST GOT INTO MEETING, SIR.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A CHARTER SCHOOL ON ST.
HELENA? HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING MONDAY? UH, I I'VE, I'VE HEARD A LITTLE BITS AND PIECES OF BISCUIT, BITS AND PIECES OF IT.
UH, I KNOW, I KNOW OF ONE I'VE HEARD OF ONE PERSON, BUT NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT ANYTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT.
IS THAT WAS THAT W W WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.
UM, I THINK THAT ANOTHER ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UH, MY, WELL, WHY, WHY I WANT TO SPEAK TO, I DON'T KNOW.
I ASKED MR. CAMPBELL IS JUST, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KNOW WHERE SOME OF OUR STUDENTS AND, UM, WHAT A CAPACITY OF A SCHOOL LIKE THAT WOULD BE AND WHERE IT WOULD BE DRAWING FROM, AND JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT INS AND OUTS, THE STATE CHARTER SCHOOL IS GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY SHOULD TALK TO US.
BUT EVEN IF NOT, WE KNOW THOSE ARE CHILDREN AT BEAVER COUNTY, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT'S JUST PART OF THE CALCULUS OF WHERE DO CHILDREN GO, DID THEY SAY, YEAH.
OR ALL THE TALK THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOL ON SAYING HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF GETTING SPECIALIZED STUDENTS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT WAS ITS FOCUS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR ALONG THAT IS.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE LADY'S NAME.
UM, I THINK IT WAS, I'LL LOOK IT UP AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
CAUSE I WAS ASKING, HUH? YEAH.
I WAS ASKED ABOUT, ABOUT HER ASKED ABOUT, UM, WHOEVER WE WERE CONTACTING WHEREVER WE WOULD CONTACT AS A DISTRICT ABOUT, ABOUT IT.
I DO NOT, I DO KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION IS STRUCTURED.
BUT THEN YOU SAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A, UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A, UM, A SPREAD, A SPREAD SCHOOL PRESCRIPTION.
UH, THAT'S THE INFORMATION I GOT, THAT'S THE TARGET AUDIENCE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR ALONG IT IS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR A LOT OF THINGS AS LONG WAY FROM TALK TO ACTUALLY GETTING IT STARTED AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A STATE SCHOOL.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.
WE'RE DOWN TO VILLAGE SCHOOL IN THE NORTHERN AREA.
UM, SO MR. CAMPBELL AND I, AND CAROL, AND ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, UH, DIFFERENT ASSORTMENT FOR THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS? UM, SOME SITE VISITS, UH, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, UM, ARE JUST SOME NOTES THAT, UM, I TOOK DOWN BASED ON MY OWN OBSERVATIONS, BASED ON, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH SCHOOL PERSONNEL, UM, MR. CAMPBELL, AND I TALKED A BIT ABOUT WHAT SAW MUTUALLY.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS, MR. CAMPBELL TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OR JUST, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SUGGESTING BOARD MEMBERS, PLEASE GET A COPY OF THIS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN, UM, DISCUSS IT NOW.
AND THERE'S MORE THAN ME, WHICH IS TUESDAY AFTERNOON DURING THE COMMITTEE REPORT.
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YEAH.SO JUST TO REITERATE, THESE ARE, UM, THESE ARE MY OWN THOUGHTS.
THESE AGAIN, WERE, UM, THINGS THAT WERE SHARED WITH US BY THE PRINCIPAL, UM, OBSERVATIONS, RIGHT? MR. CRIMINAL, THINGS THAT WE SAW THAT NEEDED ATTENTION, UM, THERE'S THAT IN THE FUTURE SHOULD BE PHYSICAL SCHOOLS.
AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ISSUES, WHAT'D YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, MR. VERY HELPFUL.
IF WE ALSO WENT BACK AND REVIEWED WHAT SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WAS PRIOR TO THE REFERENDUM, BECAUSE, UM, I DO REMEMBER THAT MS. JOE WRIGHT HAD BROUGHT UP, UH, THAT SHE HAD BEEN REVIEWING SOME OF THE AUDIO OR WRITTEN THE MINUTES OR SOMETHING.
AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND DISCUSSING THE SCHOOLS NORTH OF THE BROAD, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME, I DON'T KNOW I'M GOING BACK AGAIN.
I I'M ACTUALLY, I THINK OUR NEXT STEP MIGHT BE TO TAKE THE INFORMATION THAT THAT WAS, UM, JUST PUT TOGETHER FORTY-FIVE DAY COUNTS IN THE WALK AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE, THE STUDENT CAPACITY AND A PROGRAM CAPACITY OF EACH SCHOOL THAT IS ON OUR LIST AND KIND OF GOING THROUGH AND COMPARING AND JUST GETTING A BIGGER PICTURE.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
SO THEY'RE VERY GOOD NOTES THAT SAYS VERY HELPFUL.
WHEN DO YOU WANT TO MEET AGAIN, SOMETHING WE DID HAVE A CERTAIN DATE SCHEDULE DIDN'T WE DO SOMETHING THURSDAY OF THE MONTH? I THINK SO.
UM, UM, THE THIRD MORE DOCS, THE INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS FOURTH WEDNESDAY, THE 23RD OF FEBRUARY, WE WERE MEETING AT THREE O'CLOCK, THREE, MR. GUYER AT THREE O'CLOCK, THREE O'CLOCK.
SO THE FEATURE TOPIC IS LOOKING AT THE 45 DAY FACILITIES PLAN.
I WAS HAVING TROUBLE UNMUTING NOW.
AND I APPRECIATE, UM, MS. FREDRICKS BRINGING UP THE, UH, THE NEED FOR A COMMUNITY COMMITTEE, BECAUSE WHAT I WAS, WHAT I DID FIND IN LOOKING AT THE REFERENDUM IS THAT BEFORE WE GO TO REFERENDUM AGAIN, THERE THEY, WE HAVE APPARENTLY VERBALLY OR OTHERWISE COMMITTED TO HAVING A COMMUNITY-BASED, UM, NORTH ABROAD COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT SORT OF SCHOOL CAPACITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, BUT OTHERWISE, NO, I, I, IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT, UM, I AM SO IN MY OWN LITTLE SOUTH ABROAD BUBBLE, IT'S NICE TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.