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FINDING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING.
IT'S WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 5TH AND IT'S 6:00 PM.
UM, FIRST ITEM IS TO ROLL CALL.
COULD YOU PLEASE DO THAT FOR RIGHT HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.
IT WAS REGARDING A GERMAN, THE HISTORIC, NOT HERE, NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 PM, UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, PRESENT ITEMS, WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE NINE 30, MAYBE CONTINUE TO NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR A SPECIAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS, EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WAS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS.
AND IN SPEAKING, AVOID DISRESPECT TO COMMISSION, STAFF, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MEETING THAT YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND SPEAK FOR THE RECORD COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
IF I MAY, YOU MIGHT AMEND THE AGENDA, MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA OR ADOPT THE AGENDA WITHOUT THE OCTOBER SIX MINUTES ON IT.
AH, AM I NOT SPEAKING CORRECTLY NOW? IS IT BETTER NOW? YEAH, JUST A LITTLE HIGHER.
THANKS FOR WATCHING OUT FOR US.
HE SITS IN THE BACK ROOM AND HE'S MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING RECORDED AND DONE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP.
UM, SO THEREFORE THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA NEEDS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE OCTOBER SIX MEETINGS, UH, FOR THE OCTOBER SIX MEETINGS.
SO THEREFORE WE NEED TO ELIMINATE THAT FROM OUR, UH, I MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THEM THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 6TH, 2021.
I SECOND THAT I NEED DISCUSSIONS ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED? ADOPTION OF MINUTES, ADOPTION OF MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING BEEN THROUGH THEM.
AND THEN I GET A MOTION ON THAT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION OF THE DECEMBER 1ST, UH, 2021 MEETING MINUTES.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UM, THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING STATED WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO NOW WE'RE ON TO OLD BUSINESS MATTERS TODAY IS KIND OF A PACK DAY, JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE.
WE DO HAVE TWO, UH, OLD BUSINESS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EIGHT NEW BUSINESS ITEMS FOR TODAY.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, VERY INTERESTING MEETINGS.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST SAY WHO YOU ARE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BRIAN WITH BFL BUILDERS, FUCK THEM.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS FOR THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE AND A HALF STORY, SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 2,113 SQUARE FEET.
IT ALSO HAS A CARRIAGE HOUSE OF APPROXIMATELY 632 SQUARE FEET.
IT IS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED AT 25 MARYWEATHER PORT, WHICH IS LOT SIX IN THE LANDON OAKS DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS LOCATED IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL, WHICH IS THAT ORANGE DISTRICT I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE MAP IN JUST ONE MINUTE, THE APPLICATION WAS TABLED AT THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING, UM, WHICH WAS OUR PREVIOUS MEETING BECAUSE THE HPC REQUESTED THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THE ITEMS IN THE STAFF FINDINGS FOUND IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SPECIFICALLY THE HPC NOTED THAT THE BUILDING'S ROOF LINE SHOULD BE REVISED AS THE STRUCTURE WAS TOO SIMILAR TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE HAVE THIS ITEM BEFORE US TONIGHT.
IT IS THIS ONE THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE HERE LOCATED WELL WITHIN THE ORANGE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD ZONING DISTRICT.
SO I'M GOING TO FLIP THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY, UM, BUT JUST SLOW ME DOWN OR STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT HERE.
THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE EXACTLY A MONTH AGO.
IT MAY HAVE RAINED TWICE HERE IS THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS THE DECEMBER SITE PLAN I'VE LABELED AT THE TOP.
WHAT WAS THE DECEMBER ITEMS VERSUS THE, UM, JANUARY?
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SO I'M GONNA FLIP THROUGH THE DECEMBER FAIRLY QUICKLY AND WE'LL GO BACKWARDS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON, WHICH WAS QUITE HELPFUL.SO HERE ARE THE DECEMBER FLOOR PLANS AS WELL AS THE ELEVATION.
SO AS YOU RECALL, IT WAS THIS FRONT ELEVATION WHERE IT HAD THE GABLE ROOF.
UM, THAT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE FOUND ON LOTS FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH HAD BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY AND THEN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DETAILS.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS RESUBMITTED BEFORE YOU.
SO YOU HAVE THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH, UM, IT MAY NOT BE QUITE TO SCALE HERE BECAUSE IT IS JUST A SCREENSHOT OF IT.
UM, HOWEVER YOU HAVE GOT THE ROOFLINE, WHICH WAS TURNED TO A HIP.
YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER ON THE SIDE ELEVATION HERE, BUT IT WILL BE FLAT ACROSS THE FRONT.
NOW, UM, WITH THIS SECOND STORY WINDOW IN, UM, A PARTIAL PARTIAL DORMER AT THE TOP, UH, AND THEN THE FRONT PORCH HAS ALSO BEEN CHANGED TO THAT SHED ROOF, OR I'M SORRY, HIP TRUTH RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOTS FIVE AND SIX.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED ON LOT FIVE VERSUS WHAT'S APPROVED ON LOT SIX.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ROOFLINE HAS CHANGED THERE.
THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE DORMER PUT UP HERE, UM, TO GO ALONG WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ROOF LINE.
SO YOU'VE GOT, OOPS, I'M SORRY, YOUR FRONT ELEVATION, YOUR LEFT ELEVATION AND THE RIGHT ELEVATION WILL BE SIMILAR.
YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE SEEING ON THE OTHER ONE.
SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED, BUT HERE ARE YOUR TRUE ELEVATIONS, NOT THE COMPARISONS.
SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH HAS THIS, UM, HIP TROOP AT THE FRONT WITH THE SHED ROOF OVER THE WINDOWS.
ON THE SECOND STORY, THIS HAS BECOME A TRUE HIPPED ROOF WITH A HIP DORMER ON THE SIDE OR, UM, UH, PROJECTION ON THE SIDE HERE.
SO THEY'VE BUMPED OUT THE MUD ROOM, WHICH IS THIS LITTLE GUY HERE AND CHANGE THE CONFIGURE OF THIS.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER IN DECEMBER, THE DOOR WENT STRAIGHT IN THE SIDE, NOW YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE DOOR FROM THE STREET HERE.
SO IT'S BEEN BUMPED OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT, THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE DONE IT.
IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CALCULATIONS.
UM, IT'S JUST BEEN RECONFIGURED A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND THEN HERE IS YOUR BEER AND YOUR LEFT ELEVATION.
HERE ARE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE FOUR PLANS, WHICH REMAIN UNCHANGED.
AND THEN THE DETAILS FOR THOSE ITEMS, WHICH, UM, THE HAVE CHANGED FINER DETAILS IN HERE.
THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IT WAS, BUT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEY'VE CROSSED THROUGH THE, WHERE THOSE FIBERGLASS DOORS WERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE NOTED AS WOOD.
AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEY HAVE ADDED A TREE UP TOWARDS THE FRONT TO SHOW, WHICH SORRY, GUYS FLIPPING THROUGH SIDEWAYS HERE.
SO IS IT BETTER ON THE CANOPY COVER? THEY'VE ADDED A NEW LIVE OAK TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE LOT HERE.
SO THIS BIG BOULDER CIRCLE HERE INCREASES THE CANOPY COVERAGE SO THAT THEY CAN MEET THEIR 75% CANOPY COVERAGE.
UM, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY THAT YOU HAVE, BUT AS THE HPC YOU AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN MADE BY THE APPLICANT AFTER VIEWING THOSE CRITERIA FOUND IN SECTION 3 18, 3 OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UM, TOWN STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE ATTACHED PLANS HAVE MET THE, UM, DETAILS THAT WERE IN THE STAFF FINDINGS FROM LAST MONTH'S REPORT, UM, AND LEAVES IT UP TO THE HPC TO CONSIDER THEIR CRITERIA IN THAT SECTION TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR THE ELEVATION, UM, ELEVATIONS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE DETAILS THAT WERE REQUIRED FOR THE, UM, FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTHS.
SO LAST MONTH, THERE WAS A LANDSCAPE PLAN NECESSITY.
THE, UM, THE BELLY BAND OR WATER TABLE DETAIL NEEDED TO BE REVISED.
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UM, ELEVATION NEEDED TO LINE UP WITH THE DETAIL IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DRIP BOARD THE SAME, WHICH THEY HAVE UPDATED AND THEN THE, UM, DOOR MATERIAL NEEDED TO CHANGE.SO THOSE FOUR ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY WHAT WAS RESUBMITTED AND THE ONLY REMAINING, UM, SECTION IS THE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES SHOULD BE MADE TO BE MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DIVERSITY OF THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, WHICH WAS THE DIRECTION THAT HPC GAVE THEM IN REGARDS TO CHANGING THE ROOF LINE.
SO, UM, IT IS UP TO YOU ALL TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION ON THAT, BUT THE OTHER ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
I GUESS THE DISCUSSION IS, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS AND WE SEE THE CHANGE OF THE ELEVATION.
WE SEE THE CHANGE OF THE ROOF AND SUCH.
SO LIKE ALL OF A REQUEST IN MY OPINION HAVE BEEN MADE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU THIS, ISN'T JUST, Y'ALL ENDED UP FLIPPING THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, FROM WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU MIRRORED IT, MOVE IT TO THE OPPOSITE TO THE LEFT.
SO THERE ARE NOT, THE DRIVEWAYS ARE SEPARATED BY THE HOUSES.
THAT ACTUALLY, UH, WAS HAVING TO STAY, I MEAN, THAT FURTHER HELPS TO MAKE THOSE LOOK DIFFERENT WITH THE STAIRS COMING OFF.
I WAS JUST MAKING SURE I WASN'T SEEING THAT WRONG.
I MEAN, I, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT Y'ALL PROBABLY HAD TO DO TO MAKE THE HIPPED ROOF WORK.
UM, AND I, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE IT A LOT.
UM, I THINK IT, THE ELEVATIONS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, WHERE THEY DON'T READ AS THE SAME, THAT BEING SAID.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION ANY PRIVY TO THIS, BUT I STILL ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT COLOR, JUST MAKING SURE THAT, BUT THAT'S LIKE, I JUST ASKED THAT SO WE DON'T SIT THERE AND MARCH THEM, THIS IS NOT OUR PRIVY, BUT, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE A MOTION THAT I COULD GET FROM APPROVED PLANS AS SUBMITTED AND I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSIONS OR DISCUSSIONS, THEN WE HAVE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
ANYONE OPPOSED? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT YOURSELF A PLAN.
WE'LL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS 1301 MAY RIVER ROAD, JAMES.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S SAD WITH ME AS I LOCATE THE PRESENTATION.
THERE'S SO MANY AT THE BOTTOM OF MY SCREEN.
UM, SO THIS IS OUR SECOND ITEM OF OLD BUSINESS TONIGHT.
IT IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF A STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF OVER TO EXISTING STAIRWAYS ON THE BUILDING IDENTIFIED AS THE, AS THE FARM, WHICH IS 1301 NEIGHBOR FOR ROAD BUILDING 11 A AND THE PROMINENT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS AN OLD TOWN BLUFFTON, AND IT IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD CORE HD.
UM, THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING.
SO THE APPLICANT COULD ADDRESS THE ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT, SPECIFICALLY THE ROOF ON THE SIDE, ELEVATION TO HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, AND HOW THE PROPOSED PORCH WOULD ADDRESS THE PORCH AREA ON THE FRONT OR THE, THE, UM, AREA ON THE FRONT.
SO THIS IS YOUR LOCATION AND ZONING MAP.
YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINED IN BLUE HERE IN THE, UM, BURNT SIENNA COLOR.
I CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY WEEK.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION FROM GOOGLE, BUT THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS FROM LAST MONTH AND THEN THE STAIRS.
SO THIS IS A STAIR THAT'S FACING MAY RIVER ROAD, AND THEN THE ONE AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT IS BEHIND THE STRUCTURE.
YOU WOULD NOT SEE IT FROM MAY RIVER ROAD.
UM, YOU'D SEE IT FROM THE PARKING LOT AREA.
AND THEN THESE ARE WHAT YOU LOOK AT GOING ALMOST THIS PERSPECTIVE HERE AS YOU WALK DOWN THE RIVER ROAD.
UM, SO THIS IS THE DECEMBER SITE PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE AGAIN, HERE'S MAY RIVER ROAD ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLAN HERE, MAY RIVER ROAD ON THE RIGHT WITH YOUR, UM, YOUR SITE PLAN ON THE SURVEY.
AND THEN THE SITE PLAN SHOWN WITH HIGHLIGHTS HERE AND THEN THE PROPOSED DRAWINGS FROM DECEMBER WITH THE PROPOSED FROM DECEMBER AND THEN THE DECEMBER RENDERING THAT WAS PROPOSED.
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FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR THE RESUBMITTED DOCUMENTS WITH THE ROOF PLANS.YOU CAN SEE THE SLOPES OF THE ROOF LABELED ON HERE AND THEN THE JANUARY RENDERING.
UM, AND SO THIS IS A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS.
UM, JAMES IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT.
AGAIN, THE HPC HAS THE ABILITY TO APPROVE WITH CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 3 18, 3 OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, TOWN STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO IT MEETING THE CRITERIA IN THAT SECTION.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THEM, I'M I GUESS WHERE MY FIRST QUESTION IS, I'M LOOKING THROUGH THIS AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE FIRST ITEMS THAT WE MENTIONED IN HERE IS THE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED DIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY DIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS OF THE NEW PROPOSAL.
UM, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT, HOW ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF CHANGES MADE AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE INSTEAD OF HAVING A VISUAL THAT YOU PROVIDED ACTUAL DRAWINGS OF THAT, BUT THE MAKEUP OF THE DESIGN OF THE MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT, I THINK, I MEAN, UM, I UNDERSTAND SENDING THIS BACK.
I THINK WHAT BRUCE AND I DO AGREE WITH HIM, LIKE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING, WHICH WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, UM, BUT WE'RE GETTING LIKE WALL SECTIONS AND IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE LIKE THESE OLDER DRAWINGS ACTUALLY, IT'S A LITTLE MORE CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, WITH THE POSTS AND, UH, JUST, WE JUST, ESSENTIALLY, WE JUST HAVE THOSE TWO PLAN GRAPHICS AND, UM, THAT ONE, UH, PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS HELPFUL, BUT JUST THE ACTUAL POST CALLED OUT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR ME.
CAN WE ZOOM IN ON, UM, THAT PERSPECTIVE? JUST THAT ONE PART I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WAS THE, THAT ARE THERE.
SO THE COLUMN IT'S THE SAME WIDTH AS THE COLUMN STRUCTURES OF THE SAM.
IT'S BASICALLY JUST A FABRICATED STEEL, BUT THE ROOF, I GUESS I'M THIS AREA, THE FRONT HAS BEEN CHANGED.
AND I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ON THE KIND OF, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS IN MY HOMEWORK, I KEPT LOOKING FOR THE DIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS JUST TO KIND OF CHECK ON IT.
AND, AND EMILY AND THE STEEL STRUCTURE, THE STEEL STRUCTURE, FABRICATORS GOING TO DO SHOP A STEEL STRUCTURE WITH, BUT YOU HAVE TO, BUT YOU, YOU DESIGNATE WHAT YOU WANT MADE.
HE DOESN'T JUST MAKE IT RIGHT.
DOES ANYONE ELSE PROVIDED SOME PLANS OF THE WIDTH AND THE HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC, I MEAN, FOR, FOR ME, THE ONLY THE, UM, I DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT MUCH.
I GUESS THE DRAWING THAT WAS GOING AROUND AT THE LAST MEETING TO ME, THE ONLY THING I'M STRUGGLING WITH, AND THIS IS PROBABLY CAUSE I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT IS AGAIN, THIS CONNECTION TO WHERE IT HITS THAT COLONNADE OR THEIR ART OR THEIR IT'S SORTA KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ARCHERS ON TWO SIDES.
IS THERE ACTUALLY AN ARCH THERE OR IS THERE, I SEE AN ARCH AND ALIGN AND I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THE BRACKET, BUT I GUESS IF WE HAD A DRAWING TO SHOW THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLAP TRIANGLE, I SAID THE GOAL WAS REALLY TO KEEP THIS THING SIMPLE AND TALKING TO XENOS.
I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, CAUSE I BROUGHT A RENDERING OF THE PREVIOUS DESIGN
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AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE WHOLE ROOF IS NOW.IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROOF IS ALL CANTERED RATHER THAN IT WAS FLAT TO BEGIN WITH.
I THINK THE HOLIEST OF THE SKETCH THAT WE GOT FROM AS AN OPTION FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT KATIE PROVIDED WAS TO PROVIDE, BUT ANGELA SLOPED SOME AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND THEN CONNECT IT WITH THE PREFERENCE HONESTLY, WOULD BE JUST THE PREVIOUS, THE PREVIOUS.
BUT I SEE THE ROOF THEN WE CAN SEE NOW I SEE THE ROPE IS CANCER, BUT I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
I, I KIND OF HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JAMES.
AND I THINK THAT I AM IN AGREEANCE THAT THE SHAPE IN THE PITCH OF THE ORIGINAL SCHEMATIC IS FOR ME, IT'S MORE PLEASANT TO THE EYE, THE TWO TWELVES AND THE HIPS.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DO THE SAME PERSPECTIVES.
THEY CAN SEE A SIDE BY SIDE CAUSE THAT, THAT REALLY DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB.
THAT WAS JUST A PHOTOSHOP THING.
BUT WE ACTUALLY JUST TOOK THE SAME PERSPECTIVE OF THE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED ONE AND THE, I AM BASED UPON THE LAST MEETING AND YOU COULD SEE, CAUSE I, I THINK THE SIMPLER, THE BETTER, LET IT BE A PURELY FUNCTIONAL COLUMNS GOING UP AND JUST SUBMIT, NO, I THINK THIS IS WAY BETTER.
I MEAN, BUT, BUT ONCE YOU WENT THE NEW ONE, YES.
WITHOUT THE OTHER ONE ALMOST ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED ONE.
WELL THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED TONIGHT, WELL, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD TO OPPOSE THAT IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL ONE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE WHERE YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE, BUT THE COMMENTS THAT REMAINED IN REGARDS TO THIS IS THIS IS MAY RIVER.
AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM MAY RIVER INTO THIS, THAT REPRESENT THREE TIMES, I THINK THAT REPRESENT OLD TOWN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAIRCASE MEETS TO REPRESENT, I WANT IT TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THE STAIRCASES THERE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO ARCHITECTURALLY BLENDED IT INTO, MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S MORE BLENDED TO ME.
I MEAN, A LOT MORE BLENDED, WHICH ONE? THE OLDEST ONE OR THE NEW ONE, THE NEWEST RENDERING OF THE OLD DESIGN.
UM, WHICH THAT RENDERING IS A LOT MORE HELPFUL FOR ME.
THE PROBLEM ALWAYS WAS THAT, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THIS DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF NOT HAVING A COMPLETE ENCLOSURE, UM, FROM THE, WE'LL SAY THE COLONNADE ARCH, UH, TO THE STAIRS IS THAT SECTION THAT GOES IN FRONT OF THAT ARCHED.
UM, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE THE BIGGEST HEARTBURN TO ME IF THERE WAS, IF IT JUST, I MEAN, IF THAT JUST STOPPED THERE, UM, TALK TO THEM ABOUT JUST ELIMINATING THE PORTION, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, YOU WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A ZONE.
AND THEN, I MEAN, I HAVE, NO, THIS IS JUST ME TALKING.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE REAR STAIRS, I THINK FOR ME, THE MAIN PROBLEM.
AND I KEPT ON DRIVING BACK AND FORTH ON MAY RIVER AND STOPPING THERE WAS, WAS THAT RIGHT THERE WITH YOUR, WITH LIKE THE FARM SIGN, HAVING A, UM, THERE ARE NEXT TO THE POST.
I MEAN, IT'S VERY, VERY, YOU KNOW, I STARED AT THIS THING FOR, UH, 15 MINUTES ONE DAY JUST TO LOOK AT IT AND TRYING TO CONCEPTUALIZE THIS AND YEAH.
WITH THE, BUT IT'S JUST THAT SECTION FOR ME, THIS THING COVERED HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE STAIR HAS TO BE COVERED, BUT THIS LITTLE BUMP OUT JUST REALLY, AND I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.
I MEAN, THE GOAL IS BE ABLE TO GET UNDER THERE, BRING FOOD UP, BUT RIGHT.
AGAIN, SOMETHING'S BETTER THAN NOTHING RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING THE STAIRS TO MOVING THINGS UP THERE.
THEY CAN COME RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND HEAD UP, WHICH IS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT THE, AND, AND BE UNDERCOVER FOR 90% OF THE WALK.
I THINK THEY'D BE PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I HAD WAS THAT FRONT PIECE ON MAY RIVER, BUT, AND THEN YOU WERE, YOU'RE ADDRESSING IT HERE ARCHITECTURALLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF REQUESTED ON THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY.
BUT YOU KNOW, LOOKING KIND OF LIKE A ROLLER COASTER,
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I THOUGHT THE SAME THING, WHICH IS WHY WE DID IT.WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT IF YOU DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS.
AND THE IMAGE THAT IS, UM, HAS BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT BY THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF.
UM, AND IT WOULD NEED TO BE FORMALLY SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED FOR DIMENSIONAL PURPOSES.
I MEAN, THIS, THE DISCUSSION CAN BE BASED ON THIS.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO HPRC BECAUSE STAFF IS NOT COMFORTABLE APPROVING IT BASED ON THAT UNTIL WE HEAR THAT IT MEETS THE INTENT OF Y'ALL'S APPROVAL TONIGHT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED THIS EVENING DIMENSIONAL AS STATED IN THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, OKAY, THIS ONE WAS LIKE, YOU ESSENTIALLY NOT, I UNDERSTAND THOSE COMMENTS, BUT THIS, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST SUBMITTAL RENDERED OUT NOW.
AND THE ROOF IS DIFFERENT THAN IT IS DIFFERENT THAN YEAH.
THAT'S THE WHOLE THING DOES LOOK INDUSTRIAL, ESPECIALLY HANGING OVER ME RIVER.
AND THAT MY CONCERN IS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN MAY RIDGE, THIS IS A PROMINENT SPOT ON MAY RIVER.
I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT OVER THE LANDING, JUST KEEP IT STRAIGHT DOWN, FLATTEN IT OUT AND GO DOWN.
INSTEAD OF ON THE HPRC, THE FLAT PART WAS A CONCERN WITH STAFF RIGHT OVER THE MIDDLE LANDING, JUST CAUSE IT DIDN'T SLOW.
BUT WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU IS THAT YOU WOULD ELIMINATE THAT PART, THAT THEY COULD PULL THAT ROOF BACK.
WE COULD GO WITH THE SIMPLE FORM, JUST GO RIGHT UP.
DON'T MAKE ANYTHING OF A NO FRILLS AND ARCHES AND BRACKETS, JUST KEEP THIS VERY SIMPLE, STARTING AT THE STAIRS RATHER THAN STARTING AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE STAIRS.
I'M BASICALLY IN THAT PICTURE RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN SEE THE, WE WOULD ELIMINATE RAIL BASICALLY AT 12 INCHES PAST THE LAST, BUT ELIMINATE THAT WHOLE AREA FROM THE COLUMN, FROM THE STAIRS TO THE POLE, BASICALLY.
I WOULD EVEN CONSIDER, I WOULD CONSIDER A TWO 12 PITCH ON THE LANDING, THE TOP LANDING, THE INTERMEDIATE LANDING, MAINTAINING THE SLOPE IS SIMILAR TO THE ROOF STRUCTURE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING OR MAINTAINING THE SLOPE THAT IS OPERABLE TO THE, THE ACTUAL STAIR ITSELF.
AND THEN AT, AT THE BASE OF THE STAIRS, IF IT, IF IT HAD A SLIGHT EXTENSION JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF PROTECTION AS YOU ROUND THAT CORNER TO GET TO THE STAIRS, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD COMPLIMENT THE STRUCTURE AND COMPLIMENT THE ROOF SYSTEM MORE SO THAN JUST FOLLOW THE, THE 12 ON THE LANDINGS, FLATTEN IT A LITTLE MORE ON THE LANDING, FOLLOW THE STAIRS, FLATTEN IT ALL.
THEN LANDING FOLLOWED THE, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL HPRC COM UH, PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS UP THE STAIR.
I MEAN, HALF AND 12 OVER THE LANDING UP THE STAIR.
AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST FOLLOW IT.
SO IT ALL STAYS THE SAME SHAPE AS THE STAIR.
THERE'S FUNCTIONALITY IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
AND WE HAD NO ISSUE ON THE BACK STEPS.
I DON'T THINK NONE OF US AT THE POINT NOW WE NEVER, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT THE MAIN THING WAS JUST, WHATEVER'S DONE THAT THEY MORE OR LESS MATCH WAS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE WEREN'T READY TO APPROVE IT AT THE LAST MEETING, THE BACKSTAIRS.
UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST DRAGGING THIS ALONG AND SO HOW DO WE NOT DRAG THIS ALONG SO WE CAN GET, I KNOW THE MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS.
OF COURSE, THE, UM, A DESIGN SIMILAR TO THAT, WHICH IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, BY THE APPLICANT TONIGHT THAT HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT GRACEFULLY, I BELIEVE THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE TO MAKE YOUR MOTION SO THAT IT IS REVIEWED BY HPRC TO BE APPROVED BY STAFF.
IF IT IS FOUND AT HPRC, THAT IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE APPROVAL, UM, AND THEN INCLUDE ANY ITEMS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY FROM HERE SPECIFICALLY, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THE COLUMN SIZE, UM, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE THAT DOES NOT MATCH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, AND WE WILL NEED DIMENSION, SCALE DRAWINGS SHOWING BUILDING AS WITH THE PRESENTED.
UM, IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT, UM, LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SINCE IT WON'T BE PROTRUDING TO THE FRONT COLUMN, IT'LL BE STOPPING AT THE EDGE OF THE STAIR.
IF THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I THINK I'D BE WILLING TO
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FILL THIS PENDING RECENT MIDDLE FOR STAFF REVIEW BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD RELATED TO, UH, DID YOU ACTUALLY MAKE A FORMAL MOTION OR YOU, BUT THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION, JUST DISCUSSION.SO THAT'S NOT EMOTION, SO DISCUSSION.
WELL, I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY SO THEY, IT, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO HPC SO THAT YOU CAN JUST BRING IT BACK TO A MONDAY MEETING, BUT CAN WE, CAN WE TALK THROUGH THAT LOT, JUST THESE COLUMNS AND IF YOU WANT IT TO, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING STAIRS, UH, WHY FOUR-INCH, UH, WHY Y'ALL THINK FOUR INCHES APPROPRIATE OR WHAT YOU, UH, CAN WE JUST TALK THROUGH THAT? I THOUGHT THAT IT HAD COME UP LAST TIME AND I KNOW IT SHOWED UP ON EAST CHRISSY, THE EXISTING COLUMNS.
UM, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANT THAT TO ALL BE CONTINUOUS AND MAKE THIS THING.
AND BY STATING, BECAUSE IT'S A UNIQUE CONDITION, UH, FROM AN EXISTING USING EXISTING AS THE PREMISE OF THE REASON FOR THAT, RIGHT.
UM, RATHER THAN SETTING A FOUR INCH COLUMN PRECEDENT MADE THEM, I BELIEVE THE, UM, DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD LAST MONTH WAS BECAUSE THIS IS A CONCRETE BLOCK BUILDING, CONCRETE BLOCK BUILDING COVERED IN STUCCO.
IT IS A MASONRY BUILDING RATHER THAN A WOOD-FRAMED BUILDING.
UM, AND THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO A FIRE ACCESS STAIR.
SO IT IS NOT A WOOD-FRAMED CONSTRUCTION BUILDING.
AND THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN A LOT OF THE STAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITHIN THE PROMINENT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THIS ONE, SO THE ONLY OTHER LOCATIONS THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT HAVE THESE, AND I THINK WE HAD PRECEDENT SET FROM OTHER STAIRWAYS THAT WE SAW, UH, PROMINENT, THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AS FIRE ESCAPE STYLE STAIRS WAS ON THIS BUILDING.
UM, AND THERE'S ONE ON THE BLUFFTON ROOM, WHICH IS ALSO A MASONRY BUILDING.
SO IT IS THAT IT IS A, IT IS A BLOCK BUILDING WITH A FIRE ESCAPE STYLE STAIR RATHER THAN A WOOD-FRAME BUILDING.
SO WITH THIS DISCUSSION, DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A MOTION IN MIND THAT THEY CAN MAKE TO A, UM, OKAY.
UH, I WOULD, IS IT, I MEAN, UH, IF I WAS MAKING A MOTION, I MEAN, IT'S APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS TO GO THROUGH, UM, H PRC AND THEN STAFF COULD BE A WAY IT'S PRC AND THEN STAFF, IT IS UP TO YOU BECAUSE HPRC CAN NOT MAKE A DECISION.
LIKE THEY ARE NOT A DECISION-MAKING BOARD.
UM, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE STAFF APPROVAL BASED ON HPRC IS RECOMMENDATION.
IF YOU DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE, RATHER THAN COMING TO THE FULL BUTTON, YOU CAN ALSO DECIDE THAT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT THEN, THEN WE'LL PUT IT OFF FOR ANOTHER MONTH.
SO WE'RE BASED ON YOUR COMFORT LEVEL, TRYING TO DO THE HPRC METHOD.
I FEEL COMFORTABLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT IF EVERYONE HAD THAT, THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS WITH THAT DESIGN, FOR SURE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO, WELL, UM, I GUESS TO THE APPROVAL OF, WITH CONDITIONS APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, UM, THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, GO ESSENTIALLY GO BACK TO THE, UM, DECEMBER 1ST, UM, SUBMITTAL, UM, EXCEPT CHANGING THE PORTION THAT EXTENDS, UM, IN FRONT OF THE COLONNADE SO THAT IT, UM, ESSENTIALLY STOPS AT THE STAIRS AND GOES, UM, AND FOR THAT TO, UM, COME BEFORE THE HPRC.
UM, SO THEY, THAT BOARD CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR STAFF APPROVAL.
LET'S SEE, AND, UH, PROVIDE, UH, LET'S SEE, CON STAFF CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO.
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I GUESS THIS IS A DETERMINATION, UH, HBC, UH, DETERMINES THAT THE COLUMNS, UH, AS CURRENTLY SHOWN AT FOUR INCHES IN WIDTH ARE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS A MASONRY STYLE BUILDING WITH A FIRE ESCAPE STAIRS.UM, AND THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING STAIRS WITH FOUR INCH COLUMNS THERE.
UM, AND LET'S SEE FOR FOUR, WE, UH, BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE MOST SIMPLE, UH, FORM OF ROOF ABOVE THE STAIRS.
UM, SO THAT THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT I MISSED SOMETHING IF I COULD SUMMARIZE IT, JUST TO ENSURE THAT I HEARD, IF YOU CAN READ IT BETTER.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT IT GOES BACK TO THE DECEMBER 1ST DESIGN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PORTION BEYOND THE BOTTOM STAIR TO BE REMOVED, TO BE REVIEWED AT HPRC AND APPROVED BY STAFF AND WITH STAFF CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO AND TWO TO ALLOW A DEVIATION FROM THE COLUMN WITH STANDARD BASED ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE AND THE MASONRY MASONRY CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING WITH THE FIRE ESCAPE STYLE STAIR.
IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE YOU MENTIONED FOR YOU CAN'T OKAY, SO YOU ALL ENCOMPASSED? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
SECOND THE MOTION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS FOR THE DISCUSSIONS? CAN I GET A VOTE OF A GAY BRUCE? ALL RIGHT.
I GUESS WE'RE NOT HAVING TO ZOOM ANYMORE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I DO APPRECIATE THE RENDERINGS.
UH, YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO VISUALIZE LAST TIME.
UM, AND SO ANYWAY, DO YOU APPRECIATE THOSE SINCE IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US UP FRIENDS.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE NOW INTO NEW BUSINESS, OUR, INTO NEW BUSINESS, THIS IS CONSTANT CLARKSON.
SHE IS IN OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, AND SHE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC PROJECT TO RENOVATE THE MAY RIVER ROAD, POCKET PARK TO INCLUDE GRASSING AND MINOR LANDSCAPES, MINOR LANDSCAPING SITE FURNITURE AND LIGHTING WITHIN THE POCKET PARK THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN FRONT OF THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT IS A ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD, WHICH IS THAT ORANGE ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THE POCKET PARK YOU CAN SEE IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
IT IS IN FRONT OF THE LOTS THAT ARE ON GILFORD PLACE IN THE ORANGE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL.
WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE US ONCE ALREADY TONIGHT, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH LANDSCAPING.
UM, AND THE INTENT BEHIND THE PROJECT IS TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ACTIVE SPACE.
SO THEY, UM, THE AREAS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ARE THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
UM, MY ORIGINAL, UM, AGENDA LANGUAGE SAID THAT IT WAS INCLUDING A IRRIGATION WELL IN CONTROL.
THAT'S NOT TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS THAT'S PART OF SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
AND I JUST INCLUDED THAT LANGUAGE ON ACCIDENT IN THAT THING.
SO, UM, THE AREAS THAT ARE IN BLUE, UM, THEY WILL BE WORKING A LITTLE BIT OF THE GRADING JUST TO RELANDSCAPING THIS AREA.
UM, ADDING A SIDEWALK THAT RUNS THROUGHOUT AND A COUPLE BENCHES.
AND AS THIS IS A PUBLIC PROJECT INSTEAD OF AN APPROVAL, UM, TONIGHT YOU ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO THE UDL ADMINISTRATOR, UM, OR, OR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION.
BASED ON THE CRITERIA FOUND IN SECTION THREE 18 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, STAFF TOOK A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED PLANS, UM, AND HAS FOUND THAT IT DOES IN FACT, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE MATERIALS AND THE PLANTINGS, UM, FOUND IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND RECOMMENDS THAT YOU ALL RECOMMEND IF THAT'S NOT ROUND APPROVAL TO THAT, UDL WOULD HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, AGAIN, CONSTANCE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
HERE'S THE VERY SMALL PLAN THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT.
IT'S VERY, IT'S MOSTLY, UM, MAINTENANCE, UH, RATHER THAN A TOTAL OVERHAUL, BUT BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC PROJECT, IT COMES THROUGH CINCINNATI SIDEWALKS.
SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK INTO THE MAY RIVER.
BUT TO SEE THAT I LIVE IN STIPEND GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PARKS AND MORE OPEN SPACE.
WE JUST HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NAME FOR IT NOW, UH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK HIM THIS, ISN'T A, UM, JUST MORE CURIOSITY, THE, FOR THIS BRICK BANDING, UH,
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IT JUST, IT STOPS WITHOUT HITTING THE SIDEWALK.IS THAT JUST TO SAVE THE EXISTING VEGETATION THERE OR LIKE ON THAT LEFT PLAYING LEFT SIDE, LANDSCAPING BEYOND THE BRICK BANDING AND WHERE THE LANDSCAPING STOPS, WE STOPPED THE BRICK BANDING.
SO YOU MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY, UH, AESTHETICS.
ARE YOU LOOKING, WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I'M JUST SAYING, SO THAT BLUE, THE BLUE LINE, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING TO DO THAT.
LIKE THE BRICK EDGE DETAIL, THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SCREEN, RIGHT.
WITH A HEADER AND SAILOR COURSE.
UM, SO I WAS JUST ASKING IF THERE, WHY ARE THE DESIGN DECISION JUST TO STOP IT AT THE END OF THAT LANDSCAPE BED WITHOUT JUST HITTING THE SIDEWALK? LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE, FORGIVE ME.
OH, YOU'RE SPEAKING ON MY LEFT.
THIS SIDE, I GUESS THAT DOESN'T, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, AESTHETICALLY AT IT IS PERPENDICULAR TO THE SIDEWALK.
IT STOPS AT THE SAME LOCATION ON BOTH SIGNS.
AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS MORE SONICALLY PLEASING, THEN CARRYING THAT FORWARD AND MAKING IT LOPSIDED.
BUT THE THING THAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS ACTUALLY I'M A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S A TINY, IT'S JUST A LITTLE GOTCHA.
UM, A PLACE FOR THE BENCHES AND PERHAPS A TABLE THAT THE, THEY WILL MATCH EXISTING.
THE EXISTING SITE FURNISHINGS OF MAY RIVER ROAD BENCHES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK IS THAT HOPEFULLY THAT SIDEWALK WILL BE USED TO ENTER INTO THE AREA.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT BENCHES THERE.
NO, THE SIDEWALKS ARE ON THAT LITTLE LANDING LANDING WILL BE ON THE SIDEWALK.
BUT THERE'LL BE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM THERE THAT THE BENCHES ARE ON THE EDGE OF THE SITE, ON THE EDGE OF THE LANDING SO THAT YOU CAN STILL HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE AMPLE ROOM TO GO THROUGH FROM THE SIDEWALK FROM STOCK FARM ONTO MAY RIVER ROAD.
IT LOOKS 15, LIKE 15 FEET ACROSS JUST UNDER THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING, SORRY, JESSE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE POINTING OUT THERE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, ON-STREET PARKING LOT, IT'S, UH, UM, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY 22 FEET LONG.
SO THIS IS JUST UNDER THE LENGTH OF THAT, UM, PARALLEL PARKING SPACE THERE.
SO THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE ROOM FOR ADA ACCESS AND NO.
THE HASHING ON THE INSIDE IS THAT, IS THAT IF I SEE TURF AND I SEE LAWN, IS IT GRASS OR IS IT ARTIFICIAL IT'S GRASS? YES.
UM, UH, I WOULD, I, IT LOOKS GREAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
I GET A SECOND, SECOND EMOTION, UH, ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED PAST BUILD THAT PARK SO MUCH.
IT'LL GO BEFORE FOR ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED.
IT GOES BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THIS MONTH.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE DATE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BECAUSE MY BRAIN IS MUSH, BUT IT IS THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, MS. TAYLOR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US.
HOW ARE YOU? YOU HAVE A MRS. TAYLOR.
HI, TAYLOR IS HERE ON BEHALF OF 1 25 PRITCHARD STREET.
THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE RENOVATION AND ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY 330 SQUARE FEET TO AN EXISTING TWO AND A HALF STORY.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 1 25 PRITCHARD STREET.
IT IS HERE IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, AS YOU MAY HAVE GUESSED, AND IT IS THE ONE RIVER FRONT EDGE H D.
UM, SO THIS STRUCTURE IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
WE ARE SITTING ABOUT WHERE IT SAYS ATTACHMENT ONE AT THE TOP RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND IT IS ACCESSED BY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF A GHOST ROAD THAT IS AT THE END OF PRITCHARD STREET.
SO THAT PRITCHARD STREET POCKET PARK IS ABOUT WHERE MY MOUSE IS.
UM, SO YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN THIS HOME BEFORE, UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE, UM, BACK THERE, BACK AT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS STRUCTURES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S HERE IN THIS TAN AREA.
SO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY ON THE, UM, THE EAST IS ACTUALLY IN BUFORD COUNTY UNINCORPORATED, UM, AND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE IS WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, RIVERFRONT EDGE HD ZONING DISTRICT, RIGHT ON THE EDGE.
SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE HOUSE.
UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED AMAZING PHOTOGRAPHS FOR ME.
SO, UM, I DID NOT HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD AT GETTING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, MS. TAYLOR, UM, THIS IS THE ENTRY LEVEL, WHICH THIS IS ACTUALLY
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ENTRY IS REAR BECAUSE THE REAR ELEVATION FACES THE RIVER, WHICH THE REAR ELEVATION IS ACTUALLY THE FRONT ELEVATION, BUT IT IS THE REAR OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IS BUILT BEFORE THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE DICTATED THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.UM, HOWEVER, THAT DOES WORK TO ITS FAVOR BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH GRAND ENTRANCES.
SO, UM, ENTRY LEVEL, OR I'M SORRY, ENTRY, ELEVATION, AND REAR ELEVATION, WHICH FACES THE RIVER.
HERE'S THE VIEW OF THE RESIDENTS FROM THE RIVER, WHICH IS WHY I SAY YOU MAY NEVER HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE.
YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF WHITE TUCKED UP THERE.
UM, THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED ARE THESE RED AREAS HERE, UM, THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ON THE FLOOR PLAN.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENING OVER HERE AS WELL.
SO THIS IS THE FOUNDATION PLAN NEW.
OH, I GOT EXTRA SLIDE IN HERE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE GROUND FLOOR DEMO.
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY WHEN I PULL UP THE ELEVATION.
SO I'M FLIPPING THROUGH THESE QUICKLY, BUT I WILL GO BACKWARDS.
SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED GROUND FLOOR, WHICH IS THAT GARAGE AREA THAT YOU SAW A LITTLE BIT OF ON THE, UM, ENTRY ELEVATION.
SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT IS BEING AFFECTED UP IN THIS CORNER.
AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF WINDOWS ON THIS SIDE WITH THE NEW INFILL THAT'S GOING TO BE IN.
SO IT'S, IT'S ABOUT TWO BAYS OF THE PORCH THAT WILL BE INFILLED.
AND THEN THE TOP FLOOR, UM, THIS IS TECHNICALLY IN A HALF STORY ABOVE THE SECOND, BUT THE SECOND IS THE PRIMARY FLOOR OF LIVING BECAUSE IT IS A RAISED STRUCTURE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AGAIN IN A MOMENT.
SO THIS IS THAT TOP FLOOR THAT HAS BEEN ENCLOSED ON THAT PORCH.
SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE ENTRY-LEVEL THERE REAR OF THE HOUSE, BUT IT IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE HERE.
SO HERE ARE YOUR GARAGE DOORS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE CONVERTED INTO SPACE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE.
SO HERE'S YOUR GARAGE DOOR, WHICH WILL BE CONVERTED INTO A WINDOW TO MATCH THE OTHER SIDE HERE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ELEVATION, THEY ARE GOING TO BE, UM, TAKING AWAY SIDING TO PUT IN A WINDOW HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE NEW AT THE BOTTOM HERE.
AND THEN THAT IS THE SAME HERE.
YOU'RE ADDING THE WINDOW THERE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION WHERE THEY'RE IN FILLING THAT PORT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PORCH ON THE SECOND AND THIRD, BUT REALLY FIRST AND SECOND FLOORS BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE RAYS.
SO HERE'S THE INFILL WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT WAS OPEN PORCHES AND ON THE LEFT ELEVATION, THEY ARE TAKING AWAY SOME SIDING TO PUT IN WINDOWS, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WINDOW THAT EXISTS THERE.
AND THEN WHAT YOU SEEING HERE IS WAY FAR BACK.
SO IT IS MOST OF THE PORCH, TWO THIRDS OF THE PORCH IS STILL GOING TO BE THAT OPEN PORCH.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RAILING LIKE IT EXISTS CURRENTLY.
AND THAT DOOR WITH THE TWO SIDE LIGHTS, WHICH ARE FULL SIZED, SIDELIGHTS ARE BEING PROPOSED ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK WHERE YOU SAW IT ON THE FLOOR PLAN.
SO THAT LAST PICTURE WAS STANDING OVER HERE, LOOKING ALL THE WAY DOWN THIS PORCH WITH THOSE DOORS BEING RIGHT HERE, THE DOOR SINGULAR, I GUESS.
AND THEN THIS IS THE RIVER FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE REAR ELEVATION LABELED, BUT IT IS THE RIVERFRONT ELEVATION.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A OPEN PORCH CURRENTLY, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE'S THE OPEN PORCH, THE PICTURE OF IT, THAT IS GOING TO BE ENCLOSED TO HAVE WINDOWS ALONG THE WHOLE FRONT HERE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PORCH AND FILL AGAIN, HERE IT IS GOING FROM THE OPEN PORCH TO FILLING IN THE TWO BAYS WITH WINDOWS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WINDOWS ON THIS STRUCTURE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THAT PORCH UP HERE, I GET A LOT OF CUT AND PASTE HERE.
SO HER DRAWINGS WERE BEAUTIFUL AND LABELED WITH ACTUAL PAGE NUMBERS, I'VE CUT AND PASTED THEM ALL TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HOPEFULLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, THESE ARE THE WALL SECTIONS THROUGH THE STAIRS AND THE LIVING AREA, AS WELL AS THE OTHER DIRECTION.
UM, AND THEN THE ROOF PLAN AND THE WALL SECTION HERE, THE ROOF PLAN IS NOT CHANGING.
AND THEN THE WALL SECTION HERE, YOU JUST CAN SEE THE WATER TABLE, WHICH IS ON THE STRUCTURE AND YOUR COLUMNS.
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AND THEN, UM, THE WINDOW DETAIL HERE.SO THE WINDOW DEAL, I'M GOING TO LET MS. TAYLOR SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE HOUSE ITSELF WAS NOT BUILT TO THE PLANS THAT EXISTED, BUT WHAT WAS BUILT IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN WHAT WAS ON THE PLANS IN COMPARISON TO OUR CODE.
SO IT ACTUALLY WORKED IN OUR FAVOR THAT THEY HAVE DONE THIS.
UM, BUT HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE WINDOW IN THE STUCCO FOR THE GROUND FLOOR.
THIS IS WHAT IS EXISTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DOOR.
UM, AND THEN WHAT IS PROPOSED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DOOR WILL LOOK LIKE THIS.
AND THEN HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE WINDOWS WITH THE WINDOW SILL FRAMING, WHY CORRECT MS. TAYLOR IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS APPLICATION.
UM, AND AS THE HPC YOU ARE TO CONSIDER, THE EIGHT REVIEW CRITERIA IS FOUND IN SECTION 3 18, 3 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT AND TOWN STAFF HAS FOUND THAT, UM, THE ONLY ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IS THAT THE FINISHED FLOOR HEIGHT FOR A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE FEET.
UM, THIS ONE HAS A FIRST FLOOR THAT IS TECHNICALLY ON GROUND LEVEL BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE LIVING SPACE THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A RAISED STRUCTURE.
UM, AND SO IT IS LESS THAN THAT THREE FEET, BUT IT IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AND IT IS AN INFILL OF THE GARAGE.
SO A DETERMINATION MUST BE MADE ON THAT.
HOWEVER, LOOKING AT EMOTION THAT, UH, UH, WOULDN'T ALLOW THE DIFFERENCE WITH A THREE FEET AVERAGE BECAUSE OF THE UDL REQUIREMENTS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S EXISTING, WE'VE SET PRECEDENT ON THAT.
SO IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY, WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FIRST, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY, YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS, YEAH, WE REVIEWED THIS AT HPRC.
SO I GUESS MADE ME THAT SEE SHAME ON ME FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, IF ANYONE DOES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, I, I THINK ONE OF THE KEYS IS REALLY BROAD DOORS AND PUTTING THE WINDOW IN THAT THE OWNERS DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO LEAVE THE GARAGE, GO BACK OUTSIDE, GO UPSTAIRS TO GO BACK INSIDE.
SO THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WAS TO TAKE OVER THE THIRD BAY OF THE GARAGE, WHICH THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE USING SINCE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO.
YES, WE PUT THIS IN AN INTERIOR STAIR AND, AND SORT OF A LITTLE MUD ROOM, BUT MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MATCHED.
SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO TAKE DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS AND PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE OF WHERE THE, UM, THE GARAGE DOOR WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY NICE, UH, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF THIS THROUGH DRAWINGS.
UH, THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, UH, THIS IS A VERY LOW-TECH, BUT FANTASTIC WAY OF SHOWING, UH, SUPER CLEARLY WHAT'S CHANGING.
WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE, UM, WHENEVER I GO LOOK FOR ANY KIND OF DRAWING MATERIALS, THEY ARE, UH, NOT RETRO, BUT THEY'RE LIKE ANTIQUE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WAY.
I USE A CALCULATOR NOW WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, I MADE AN ANGRY, UM, APPROVED THAT I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT WITH, UM, ALLOWING A DEVIATION FROM THE STANDARD FLOOR HEIGHT TO MATCH THE EXISTING OR HEIGHT.
CAN I GET A MOTION SECOND, SECOND, MAYBE DISCUSSIONS ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED IT PASSES FOR THE MOTION.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR SUCH GOOD INFORMATION.
SO WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
THE EASIEST ONE WE'VE EVER HAD.
LET'S SEE, WE HAVE A NUMBER THREE.
NUMBER THREE IS LET'S SEE, I BELIEVE IT'S SO WEB CONSTRUCTION AND BILL, WOULD YOU STEP TO THE PODIUM OR STEP TO THE TABLE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
HELLO, BETTER AT FINDING THEM THE MEMBER'S DWINDLING.
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TONIGHT BEFORE US, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE AND A HALF STORY STRUCTURE OF APPROXIMATELY 1,714 SQUARE FEET TO BE LOCATED AT 55 STOCK FARM ROAD, WHICH IS IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, AS YOU MAY HAVE GUESSED, AND IT IS ALSO ZONED RIVERFRONT EDGE, H D THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE, SURROUNDED IN BLUE.AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE ZONING MAP, IT IS HERE IN THE TAN RIVERFRONT EDGE.
UM, THIS PARCEL IS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING BECAUSE IT WAS SUBDIVIDED OUT OF A PARCEL THAT IS ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO THE RIVER.
SO THE SETBACKS ON THIS ARE A LITTLE PUNKY.
THERE IS A FRONT, UM, BUILD TWO THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE, UM, EQUAL TO, OR GREATER THAN 150 FEET FROM THE OCRM LINE, WHICH WOULD BE THE FRONT HERE.
AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER ONES ARE SIDE ELEVATIONS BECAUSE THERE IS, UM, UH, A STREET HERE AND IT DOES NOT FRONT IT.
SO THERE'S THE WAY THAT THIS PARCEL IS, IS ORIENTED IS A LITTLE BIT FUNKY.
SO IT DOES MEET THE SETBACKS, WHICH, UM, I WILL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MOMENT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, HEY, IT'S NOT PUSHED UP TOWARDS THE ROAD, BUT THAT'S THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO, UM, THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE AS OF TODAY.
AND THEN THIS IS YOUR SITE PLAN.
SO THE RIVER IS LOCATED THIS DIRECTION WITH THE KIND OF TALKING UP THROUGH HERE.
SO HERE IS STOCK FARM ROAD, AND THIS IS BEYOND THE POINT WHERE IT TURNS TO GRAVEL.
SO IT IS NOT IN THE STOCK FARM, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLANNED AREA.
IT IS BEYOND THAT IS, IS OLD STOCK FARM.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST ZOOMED IN BECAUSE I KNOW JESSE WANTED TO READ THE PLANT SCHEDULE REALLY BADLY.
SO I HAVE ZOOMED IN ON THAT FOR EACH NIGHT.
UM, SO THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVE COMING THROUGH HERE.
UM, AND THEN THERE IS A LOCATION FOR A FUTURE CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT IS NOT BEING REVIEWED TONIGHT.
UM, YOU'VE GOT THE PORCH ON THE FRONT THAT WRAPS THE SIDE, AS WELL AS THAT ADDITION I SPOKE TO IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT HAS A SMALL REAR PORCH TO IT AS WELL.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON YOUR SITE PLAN OR THE FOUR POINTS THAT I'M GETTING READY TO SHOW YOU, BUT HERE IS YOUR CANOPY COVERAGE CALCULATIONS, AS WELL AS THE GRADING PLAN, WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED MORE CLOSELY BY OUR, UM, WATERSHED DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES IN FOR BUILDING PERMIT.
BUT IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR US.
THE FLOOR PLANS ARE LOCATED HERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE FRONT OR THE STOCK FARM ROAD SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE IS HERE.
SO THIS IS THAT PORCH THAT STARTING HERE BECOMES SCREENED ALONG THE SIDE.
AND HERE'S THE SMALL PORCH THAT I SPOKE TO ON THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE WITH THE ONE STORY WRAPPING AROUND THE TWO STORY MASS, HERE'S THE SECOND STORY MASS.
SO THIS SCREEN PORCH STARTS AT THE FRONT PLANE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THIS IS THREE BAYS OF, OR I'M SORRY, FOUR BAYS OF FRONT PORCH THAT THEN TURNS INTO SCREEN BEHIND THE FRONT PLANE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT REALLY HERE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FOUR BAYS RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SMALL REAR PORCH, UM, OR I GUESS, LARGE STOOP OR SMALL PORCH TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SERVICE YARD HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE HERE.
AND WHEN IT WAS SCANNED IN THE LINES, GOT A LITTLE CHOPPY.
UM, HOWEVER, IT WAS REVIEWED AGAINST THE PAPER PLANS AND THE, UM, SCANNED DRAWINGS ARE THE SAME AS THOSE ONLY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LYING ISSUE GOING ON.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE AREA THAT FACES THE COVE.
SO THIS IS, IT FACES THE COVE.
HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT FACE THE COVE.
IT FACES ANOTHER PARCEL THAT ALSO FACES THE COAST SO HE CAN SEE THE COVE THROUGH THE TREES, BUT IT IS NOT ON THE WATER THERE.
IT CAN HAVE THE ARCHITECTURE THAT DOESN'T FRONT, THE COVE IS THE, THE POINT THERE.
UM, WE HAVE THE SECTIONS THROUGH THE HOUSE AS WELL AS THE WINDOW DETAIL.
AND THE, UM, DETAILS THAT WERE REQUESTED SPECIFICALLY AT HPRC ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN BLUE.
AND THEN A LOT OF THESE ARE INTERNAL SECTIONS.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS ONE HERE IS THE SECTION THROUGH THE PARK, THE FRONT PORCH SHOWING THE RAILINGS, AND THEN IT SAYS THE SERVICE HERE, DETAIL THAT'S ON ME.
I SCANNED THAT IN ALL BY MYSELF GUYS.
UM, HOWEVER IT IS SIX FEET AT NIGHT, I'M SEVEN FEET ACROSS AND THEN FOUR FEET DEEP.
SO IT IS, UM, IT IS MADE OUT OF THE WOOD MATERIAL HERE AND IT'S A FAIRLY SIMPLE DESIGN.
AND THEN THIS IS THE CHIMNEY CAP DETAILED, JUST TO SPECIFY WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
HERE ARE ADDITIONAL DETAILS, INCLUDING THE, UM, MAHOGANY DOORS ON THE EXTERIOR, WHICH HAS CHANGED FROM THE CONCEPTUAL.
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AND WE HAVE, UM, BRIAN HERE, AS WELL AS THE MCCRACKEN TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT.SO THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER HERE TONIGHT, UM, AS THE HPC, YOU WERE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, BASED ON THE CRITERIA FOUND IN SECTION 3 18, 3 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND TOWN STAFF FOUND THAT AS THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT ARE LARGER THAN 14 INCHES IN DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT, IT DOES NEED TO HAVE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY.
UM, BUT IT, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT ARE SUBSTANTIAL, IT DOES HAVE TO GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, HOWEVER THE TREES HAVE BEEN SCOUTED IN THE FIELD BY STAFF ALREADY AND NOTED THAT THE LOCATION OF THEM THERE'S A, UM, STAFF HAS NO ISSUE WITH IT.
SO IT IS, IT IS PROPOSED TO BE APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
SO LONG AS THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS PROVIDED TO IT BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE TREES IN THE FIELD, UPON A SITE INSPECTION.
SO I'M GOING TO BE COVERAGE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE TREES BEING RE YES MA'AM.
AND THAT'S THE TREES THAT OOPS, EXISTED.
CAUSE WE DID, UM, LOOK AT THEM THERE THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY AREA AND THE FRONT HERE, BUT UPON SITE INSPECTION, UM, THEY WERE NOT TREES THAT WILL SURVIVE WHETHER THERE'S A BUILDING PUT THERE OR NOT.
HOWEVER, IN CASE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS I ASK THAT THE MOTION DOES STILL INCLUDE THAT TREE REMOVAL PERMIT REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE ANY CONDITIONS THAT ON THAT THREE REMOVAL PERMIT BY A DRC WILL NEED TO BE MET.
THE, UH, AND THE FRONT ELEVATION, YOU'VE GOT THIS DOOR, THE WINDOW IS CENTERED ON THE GABLE, BUT THE, IS THE, IS IT JUST THE DRAWING OR IS THE WINDOW BELOW IT CENTERED OR OFF CENTERED? SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, IS THIS WINDOW CENTERED OVER THE SUMMER OR NOT? YES.
I MEAN, I, I CAN'T, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN AND ZOOM IN, WE CAN ADD THEM UP AND SEE IF IT, AND NOT THE, BUT EXTERIORLY.
LIKE SEE EXTERIOR, ARCHITECTURALLY KIND OF IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, ALL RIGHT.
SO WE GOT, THEN IT WOULDN'T MEET DOWNSTAIRS WITHIN BETWEEN THE COLUMNS UPSTAIRS.
IT WOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE NINE FEET TO THE CENTER OF THAT CENTER WINDOW.
SO THIS IS NINE HERE AND THEN FROM HERE IS FIVE, SIX AND THREE 10, WHICH MEANS NO, I'M SORRY.
SO I THINK IT, I THINK IT IS NON TO CENTER, BOTH ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT BUGS ME.
I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS THREE 10, AND THIS IS TWO 11 THOUGH.
SO THE, THE CENTER OF THIS HERE IS NOT THE CENTER OF THIS HERE.
I SEE WHERE THEY INSET THE PORCH.
SO THE ROOF DIES BACK, BUT YOU COULD SHIP THE DOOR, JUST SHIFT EVERYTHING, JUST A TINY BIT TO MAKE THEM CENTERED THERE.
THEN I KNOW, BUT THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF TWO OR THREE INCHES.
WELL, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT BOTHERS ME.
IT MAY JUST BE WHERE THAT HASHTAG WAS PULLED ON THAT.
ALL RIGHT, COUSIN, THE PORCH IS OFFSET, WHICH IS FINE.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE JUST A MATTER OF ADJUSTING INCHES.
IT'S GOING TO BE EIGHT INCHES OFF, UH, ANY DISCUSSIONS AND IF NOT, COULD I GET A MOTION? IT LOOKS LIKE WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONS.
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YEAH.I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STACKING THE TWO CENTER WINDOWS BY ADJUSTING JUST THE MINOR INCHES AND STAFF REVIEW.
I'M SORRY, THE COMPUTER IS FROZEN, BUT, UM, THE CONDITION WAS ABOUT THE TREE PERMIT, RIGHT.
AND THE CONDITION THAT THEY GET THE TREE PERMIT AS REQUESTED BY STAFF.
CAN I GET A SECOND, SECOND, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE SAY YOU'RE BUILDING THE HOUSE.
I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ALL IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
I CAN'T PROMISE ALL MY, MY APPROVAL LETTERS WILL BE WRITTEN TOMORROW.
NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO JOIN US.
AND I WILL, UM, MY COMPUTER HAS COMPLETELY STOPPED WORKING, SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK FROM OUR PAPER PACKET JUST FOR A FEW MOMENTS.
UM, WE JUST TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE NEED A QUICK BREAK AND JUST GET USED TO BREAK? YEAH.
UH, WE'RE A THREE MINUTE BREAK.
UH, PRESUMES CRC, THE HPC, EXCUSE ME, HPC.
AND THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS A REVIEW FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE RENOVATION OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES KNOWN AS GERARD'S BLUFF BARN, COOKS COTTAGE AND GAS COTTAGE, UM, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 700, 975 SQUARE FEET IN ADDITION TO THE RENOVATION OF THE NON-CONTRIBUTING GARAGE BUILDING, WHICH IS 740 SQUARE FEET LOCATED AT 1 27 BRIDGE STREET IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT IS ALSO ZONED RIVERFRONT EDGE.
THIS IS THREE RIVERFRONT EDGES IN ONE NIGHT.
UM, SO THERE ARE FOUR STRUCTURES THAT HAVE WORKED PROPOSED ON THEM.
THREE OF THE FOUR ARE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT PROPERTY.
WE ARE DISCUSSING IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO THIS IS WHERE THE BRIDGE STREET TURNS INTO GRAVEL.
SO IT IS JUST BEYOND THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT HERE.
THE OYSTER FACTORY IS DOWN ABOUT WHERE MY MOUSE IS.
NOW YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN IN THAT TAN OR SAND COLORED RIVERFRONT EDGE ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THEN THIS IS A SITE PLAN BECAUSE THIS PARCEL IS SO LONG IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT ALL.
UM, BRIDGE STREET IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE HERE.
AND THEN THE RIVER IS ON YOUR LEFT HERE.
UM, THE GARAGE, WHICH IS THE NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES LOCATED HERE WITH THE BARN, COOKS COTTAGE AND GUEST COTTAGE.
AND THEN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WE HAVE SEEN THIS SITE BEFORE.
UM, THE MAIN HOUSE IS CURRENTLY UNDER RENOVATION.
UM, A LOT OF WORK IS BEING DONE ON THAT, AND IT WAS HEARD ABOUT YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, AND SO ON THE ZOOMED IN SITE PLAN, YOU CAN, OOPS, YOU CAN SEE THE BARN COOKS COTTAGE AND GUEST HOUSE WITH THE NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE OFF THE SCREEN HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT TO YOUR RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST ONE WE WERE DISCUSSING IS THE GUEST COTTAGE.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT SITS CLOSEST TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS TOWARDS WORTH STREET.
UM, SO THIS IS, OR TOWARDS, UM, THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK, I GUESS THIS IS THE GUEST COTTAGE.
UM, AND THIS IS THE REAR, WHICH IS THE SECTION THAT BASIS TOWARDS BRIDGE STREET.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS PARCEL IS LONG.
SO WHEN I SAY IT IS FACING TOWARDS SOMETHING, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT IS VISIBLE FROM THERE NECESSARILY, BUT THAT IS THE SIDE THAT IS CLOSEST TO THAT, THAT POINT.
UM, SO THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS FACING THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, SO INTERNAL TO THE LOT, AND THEN THIS IS THE FRONT, WHICH IS FACING MAY RIVER.
AND THEN THIS IS THE RIGHT SIDE.
THIS STRUCTURE IS SITTING ALMOST EXACTLY ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
IT IS A NON CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE PICKET FENCE THAT IS LOCATED IN THE TREES THERE.
I'M ACTUALLY STANDING ON THE NEIGHBORS PARCEL WHEN I TOOK THIS PHOTO.
SO THIS STRUCTURE IS SITTING RIGHT ON THAT PROPERTY LINE.
WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS STRUCTURE IS NEW SIDING.
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SO FOR THE GUEST COTTAGE, IT IS TO REPLACE ALL OF THE SIDING AND CORNER BOARDS ON THE STRUCTURE WITH NEW WOOD BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING.THERE'S A LOT OF TERMITE DAMAGE IN THE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEN REPAIR THE ROOF AS NEEDED.
MOST OF THE ROOF WILL REMAIN REPLACED THE DOOR.
IT IS A NON HISTORIC DOOR AND THEN ADD NEW DECORATIVE POSTS NEAR THE FRONT DOOR AND BRICK STEPS AT THE LANDING OF THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THINGS UP HERE.
NOW THIS IS THE BRICK, UM, PORCH THAT IS BEING OR STAIRS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AS WELL AS THE POST, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
THE POST YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT HERE IS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THAT, UM, THE REST OF IT IS EXISTING, UM, WITH THE MATERIALS BEING REPLACED, TO GET RID OF THE TERMITE DAMAGE, WHICH HAS TAKEN OVER MOST OF THIS STRUCTURE, SIDING HERE IS A DETAIL FOR THE DOOR.
IT IS A WOOD FOR DOOR WITH LAST LIGHTS.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STRUCTURE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GUEST COTTAGE? ARE THERE AT LEAST THE SCOPE OF WORK? I APPRECIATE YOU GOING CAUSE THERE'S THREE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING.
SO WE'RE COMPLETE WITH A GUEST COTTAGE AT THIS POINT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS AT THIS POINT, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST, OKAY.
SO THE COOKS COTTAGE, THIS IS ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
UM, THIS ONE IS GOING TO HAVE WOOD REPAIR WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE AND REPLACE IN SOME AREAS, UM, WHERE IT HAS BEEN DETERIORATED BEYOND REPAIR.
THERE ARE PHOTOS SHOWING THE LOCATIONS OF THIS REPLACEMENT, WHICH WILL COME, THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAN AND CON AND REPAIR THE EXISTING WINDOWS AND THEN REPLACE THE FRONT STEPS.
SO THE FRONT STEPS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, I'VE LOST TWICE UP HERE.
SORRY GUYS, I RIGHT THERE, THIS HAS SOME SETTLING, BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA BRING UP.
HERE ARE THE AREAS CIRCLED IN BLUE AND HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED.
UM, AND THE REST OF IT WILL BE SPOT REPAIRED AS NEEDED.
UM, SO THIS IS FACING 1 23 BRIDGE STREET.
SO THIS IS FACING TOWARDS, UM, OYSTER FACTORY PARK.
THIS IS THE RIGHT SIDE, UM, WHICH FACES THEY'LL TOWARDS OYSTER FACTORY PARK, 1 23 BRIDGE STREET.
THIS IS FACING THE RIVER, BUT THERE'S A MAIN STRUCTURE THAT'S SITTING BETWEEN THIS AND THE RIVER.
THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES THE BARN.
SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE SPACE BETWEEN THESE TWO STRUCTURES.
I'M STANDING WITH MY BACK AGAINST THE BARN IN THIS PICTURE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS AGAIN THE LEFT SIDE FACING THE BARN.
SO THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN STANDING APPROXIMATELY AT THE CORNER.
THERE IS A LARGE MAGNOLIA TREE THAT COVERS MOST OF THIS REAR ELEVATION.
AND SO IT IS YOU WERE LOOKING AT WHAT IS VISIBLE FROM ANY VANTAGE POINT.
UM, SO THE MATERIALS ARE BEING REPLACED IN THE AREA CIRCLED IN BLUE TO, TO REPLACE THE DAMAGE, REPLACING THE STEPS AT THE FRONT HERE A LITTLE BIT IN THE, UM, PROFIT THERE AND THE FIGHTING ON THE SALIVATION AS WELL.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE COTTAGE? OKAY, NEXT ONE IS THE BARN.
UM, THE BARN IS PROPOSING TO CLEAN THE WINDOW PANES AND REPLACE THE TRIM WITH THE SAME PROFILE.
THE TRIM IS, IS SIGNIFICANTLY DETERIORATED ON SOME OF THESE WINDOWS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THE BOTTOM CORNER HERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TRIM BEEN ALL EATEN UP HERE, BUT IT WILL BE REPLACED WITH THE SAME PROFILE AND THEN THE PAIN'S CLEANED AND REPLACED AS NECESSARY.
I, THERE ARE A COUPLE PAINS, I THINK THAT HAVE BEEN BROKEN, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE STILL INTACT.
THEY'RE UM, REPLACE THE ROOF WITH NEW CORRUGATED METAL TO MATCH EXISTING CORRUGATED METAL IS NOT A, UM, A MATERIAL THAT'S PERMITTED BY THE STUDIO.
HOWEVER, IT IS WHAT IS EXISTING ON THIS HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
SO STAFF HAS NO ISSUE WITH THAT, UM, AND HAS NOT EVEN ADDED IT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE REPAINTING IT AND, UM, REPAIRING DAMAGE WOOD COMPONENTS WHERE POSSIBLE MATCH THE EXISTING.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ARE FIXING THE DOOR ON THE REAR SIDE OF THIS.
HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THE APPEARANCE OF
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IT.IT'S JUST THAT IT WON'T BE OPENED AND CLOSED ANYMORE.
UM, SO THAT IS NOT A VISIBLE CHANGE THAT IS BEING MADE THERE.
SO HERE IS THE AREA THAT IS, THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED CIRCLED IN BLUE, ALONG WITH THAT METAL ROOFING THAT, UM, HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS, A LOT BETTER DAYS.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION.
SO THIS IS THE LARGEST AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH WOOD SIDING.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE WILL BE REPLACED IN HERE TO GET RID OF THE DAMAGE THAT IS ALONG THERE.
AND UP HERE, THIS IS THE SIDE THAT BASIS, 1 31 BRIDGE STREET.
SO THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE AWAY FROM THE GUEST COTTAGE.
IS THERE ANY FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEMS THERE? SO I'M SETTING OLD BREAK PEERS.
UM, AND THEN THE SECTION, I DID NOTE IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I DIDN'T READ IT OUT LOUD.
SO I APOLOGIZE THIS SECTION HERE, WHICH IS, UM, RAISED OFF OF GRADE IS TO BE REMOVED THAT HAS BEEN ADDED AT A LATER DATE.
AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO SITTING ON THE GROUND.
UM, SO IT'S NOT THE SUPPORTS, IT'S JUST THE FLOOR THAT'S BEEN PUT IN THERE SO THAT SOMETHING CAN ACTUALLY PARK THERE INSTEAD OF JUST BE SET UP ON IT.
AND THEN HERE IS THE SIDE THAT FACES TOWARDS THE BRIDGE STREET.
AGAIN, IT IS SET VERY FAR BACK FROM THE ROAD AND THE SIDE THAT STILL FACES BRIDGE STREET.
SO THE FIRST PICTURE IS THIS, THE WINDOW THAT THE WORDS ARE ON IS THIS WINDOW HERE IS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THE GARAGE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GARAGE BARN DOOR UP AT THE TOP? I THINK THAT'S THE HAYLOFT THAT ONE I THINK HAS IT IS PROPOSED TO BE REPAINTED.
UM, WE DO NOT REGULATE PAINT COLOR, SO THAT IS THAT'S.
SO THE LAST STRUCTURE THAT IS ON THIS LOCATION, THIS IS THE GARAGE, THE GARAGE IS A NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
UM, SO IT IS PROPOSED TO HAVE THE MOST WORK DONE TO IT.
UM, AT LEAST THE MOST VISIBLE WORK DONE TO IT.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A NEW GABLE INTO THE ROOFLINE ALONG THE SIDE OF THE EXISTING ROOF.
UM, I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE STRUCTURE WHERE THEY'RE FIXING THE GARAGE DOORS, CORRECT? YES.
SO THE REAR FACING GARAGE DOORS ARE PROPOSED TO BE FIXED IN PLACE WHILE THE FRONT ARE BEING REPLACED IN ORDER TO BE FUNCTIONAL THERE.
AND THEN THEY'RE REPLACING THE STAIRS.
I HAVE SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS, PHOTOS THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS A LITTLE MORE, BUT, UM, FEATURE OF THAT RUBBING ON THE GARAGE DOORS, I THINK THAT'S, AND THEN THIS IS A NEW DOOR THAT IS BEING PROPOSED THERE.
SO WHEN YOU SEE IT IN ACTUALITY, THIS STAIRCASE WILL BE REPLACED THAT DOOR AND THE STORE PRE-IND PROPOSED FOR A PLACE.
THESE ARE THE DOORS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE FIXED IN PLACE, BUT THEY WILL STILL REMAIN AS DOORS, JUST NOT OPERABLE.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE SAME DOORS, JUST FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
THIS SIDE, WHICH FACES BRIDGE STREET IS THE SIDE THAT IS PROPOSED TO HAVE THE MOST CHANGE TO IT.
SO THIS IS WHERE THAT, UM, LARGE DORMER WILL GO INTO PLACE.
AND THEN THESE WILL BE TRUE WINDOWS.
UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT AGAIN, NOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN THE ACTUAL PICTURE OF THE STRUCTURE, AND THEN THESE ARE THE DOORS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE PROPOSE A SHED ROOF OVER THE GARAGE DOORS AND HAVE THESE DOORS ACTUALLY, ARE THEY STAYING THE SAME, BUT JUST THE, THE, UM, LITTLE SHED ROOF ADDED THERE, AND THIS IS THE MATERIAL FOR THE DOOR.
THE ONE COMMENT THAT, UM, STAFF HAD ABOUT THE DOOR WAS THAT THE TWO DOORS ARE PROPOSED AS FIBERGLASS.
IT IS REQUIRED TO BE WOOD OR METAL OR WOOD CLAD OR A WOOD COMPOSITE MATERIAL THAT IS REVIEWED BY THE UT ADMINISTRATOR TO BE DETERMINED, TO BE INAPPROPRIATE SUBSTITUTE MATERIAL.
UM, SO FIBERGLASS DOORS ARE NOT A PERMITTED MATERIAL.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ELEVATIONS NOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN WHAT THAT SIDE LOOKS LIKE.
SO THIS SIDE IS CURRENTLY FIXED SHUTTERS.
THEY'RE PROPOSING THE SHUTTERS TO BE REMAIN, BUT TO BE NOW OPERABLE WITH THE WINDOW AND THE DORMER UP IN THE ROOF LINE.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT IS BEING PROPOSED ON THE GARAGE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SCOPE OF WORK OR WHAT'S GOING ON? SO NICE TO SEE THIS BUILDING IS THE ONE THAT'S PROMINENT ON THE PROPERTY AND YOU WERE ALLOWED ME LAST TIME, WE TALKED THAT YOU HPRC TO TRESPASS.
CAUSE YOU SAID I COULD GO ON PROPERTY AND I DID GO ON PROPERTY AND CHECK IT OUT AND MADE THE SIGN.
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GO.SO I HAD THAT, BUT, UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT'LL COMPLETE JOB ON WHAT'S BEING DONE AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS AGAINST THE CRITERIA IN SECTION THREE 18TH STREET, WHICH IS THE SAME CRITERIA THAT THE HPC CONSIDERS AS THEY MAKE A DETERMINATION AND THEY CAN EITHER APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT IF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE, UM, ARE IN PLACE, THEN IT MEETS THOSE STANDARDS AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
SO THE FIRST IS THAT THE THERE'S A NOTE THAT SAYS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CLEAR THE, UM, EXISTING VEGETATION IN FRONT OF A BRICK WALL ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IT IS WITHIN THE 100 FOOT REQUIRED OCRM RIVER BUFFER.
SO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WOULD NEED TO BE SUBMITTED IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS, UM, NO MORE THAN ONE THIRD OF THE BUFFER HAND CLEARED BETWEEN TWO AND 10 FEET FOR NO MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE PROPERTY OR 75 CONSECUTIVE FEET IN A ROW.
NOT THAT I HAVE SECTION 5.3 0.3 HAVE MEMORIZED.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THE PROPOSED DOORS ON THE GARAGE WOULD NEED TO BE WOOD METAL OR METAL CLAD OR WOOD COMPOSITE MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE HPC FOR THEIR DETERMINATION IS, IS NO WOOD COMPOSITE MATERIAL HAS YET BEEN APPROVED FOR AN EXTERIOR DOOR.
UM, AND THEN THERE IS A SECTION ON THE GARAGE THAT SHOWS IT IS PLYWOOD IN THE SOFFIT.
UM, I OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION AS I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE EXISTING SOFFIT MATERIAL THAT BE SOLID WOOD.
YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SITUATION GOING ON THERE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MATCH THAT RATHER THAN DETAIL CHANGE IT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? SO AGAIN, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE MATCHING CONCEPT FOLKS, SO, RIGHT.
SO THIS IS THE DETAIL FOR THE DORMER AT THE GARAGE.
UM, AND SO IT IS UP TO THE HPC ON THAT BECAUSE IT IS THE LENGTH RIGHT HERE IS THE ONLY PORTION OF THAT SOFFIT THAT IS NEW.
THE REST OF IT WOULD BE REPLACED IN KIND WITH WHAT EXISTS AS THEY MAKE THOSE MINOR REPAIRS TO THE SIDING.
UM, OH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO OPEN RAFTERS, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OPEN.
IT'S JUST PLYWOOD VERSUS JUST THE PLYWOOD IN OTHER WORDS.
BUT WHEN WE GO INTO AN EXISTING AREA LIKE THIS AND YOU HAVE TO MATCH EXISTING, OH, WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AND SAY, NO, YOU GOT TO CHANGE.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA MAKE IT LOOK RIGHT.
THE REST OF THE STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY ARE ALL OPEN.
BUT THE SMALL FACIA, UH, APPROPRIATE AND LEAVE THE REST OF IT.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S 2, 1 11 ON THE INFIELD PANELS OF THE GARAGE DOORS THAT STAY IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE, IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY THAT IS THE PROMINENT SIDE OF THAT STRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT THAT BEING SAID, I'M LOOKING FOR, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT, ANY GOOD.
SO THEREFORE I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION PLEASE.
AND ACTION THAT WE APPROVE AS SUBMITTED, UH, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, AND THAT THE SOFT MATERIAL ON THREE B, OKAY.
TO MATCH THE EXISTING BECAUSE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION OR EXCUSE ME, EXISTING BUILDING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ALL IN FAVOR.
AND UH, WOULD IT BE ALL RIGHT IF I WALKED BACK ON YOUR PROPERTY AND LOOKED AT IT? CAUSE IT WAS JUST GREAT.
THERE SMITH, IF YOU HEAR APPLICANT TABLE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER FIVE, CORRECT TONIGHT, THIS APPLICATION BEFORE US WELCOME, WELCOME, UM, IS AN APPLICATION TO ALLOW A SCREENED PORCH TO BE ENCLOSED WITH WINDOWS ON THE EXISTING TWO STORY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 1 35 BRIDGE STREET, WHICH IS IN THE RIVERFRONT EDGE HD ZONING
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DISTRICT.UM, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST I'VE HAD IN ONE APP, ONE AGENDA AS I'VE HAD AN ENTIRE YEAR PREVIOUSLY.
SO, UM, THIS IS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE APPLICATION THAT WE JUST SAW.
SO THE ONE THAT WE JUST REVIEWED WAS THIS LOT RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT IS IN THAT SAND COLORED, RIVERFRONT EDGE ZONING DISTRICT, EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WE'VE LABELED THEM HERE BECAUSE, UM, THE WAY THAT THIS PORCH SITS, IT WRAPS A CORNER OF THE HOUSE.
AND SO THE WHOLE THING IS ON THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
BUT THE PORTION OF IT IS WRAPS AROUND, WHICH BECOMES THE REAR OF THE PORCH.
BUT IT IS STILL PART OF THE, YOU MENTIONED IT IS RIVER.
THE RIVER IS IN FRONT OF THIS TREE HERE.
SO THE FRONT HERE, THIS IS THE RIVERSIDE THEN.
THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE RIVER HERE, BUT SO NOW THE RIVER IS THIS BIG TREE IS THE RIVER THIS DIRECTION.
SO THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE RIGHT TEXT UNDER KIND OF A STAIRCASE WITH THE FRONT HERE.
AND THEN YOU TALK AGAIN, HERE'S THAT LEFT CONTINUING TO THE REAR ELEVATION, WHICH IS JUST THIS ONE BAY HERE.
UM, SO IT TALKS AROUND THE CORNER BASICALLY.
UM, SO, AND YOU CAN SEE IT WELL ON HERE THAT THESE ARE SCREENS THAT HAVE THE EXISTING STRUCTURAL COLUMNS BETWEEN IT IS BEING PROPOSED TO LEAVE THOSE STRUCTURAL COLUMNS IN PLACE AND THEN TO REVISE THE, UM, THE SCREENS TO BE WINDOWS AND TO ALIGN BECAUSE THE WINDOWS CAN'T BE THE FULL SIZE OF THAT AND STILL OPERABLE THEY'VE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO SEVERAL.
SO THERE'S A PICTURE WINDOW WITH CASEMENT WINDOWS ON EITHER SIDE ON THE TOP SECTION OF IT AND THEN ALIGNED THE BOTTOM WITH THE TOP IN ORDER TO CARRY ON THE LINES AND THE VERTICAL RHYTHMS THAT RUN THROUGH THE STRUCTURE.
UM, SO THIS IS THAT FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT FACES THE MAY RIVER, THE RIGHT ELEVATION, WHICH IS TUCKED UNDER THAT STAIR FOR THE STAIRCASE KIND OF RUNS UP HERE, THE LEFT ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE OTHER LONG PORTION OF IT.
AND THEN THE BACK ELEVATION, WHICH IS THAT SINGLE BAY THAT FACES AWAY FROM THE RIVER.
I HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, BUT NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, THE MATERIALS FOR THOSE WINDOWS.
UM, THEY ARE, THERE WERE A LOT OF PAGES THAT WAS TEXT TOO SMALL TO BE READ ON A SCREEN THIS SIZE.
UM, AND SO I CAN PULL OPEN THE PACKET IF YOU ALL NEED TO SEE THOSE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, HOWEVER, WITH THIS APPLICATION, YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION.
ONCE YOU'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE CRITERIA IN SECTION 3.1 8.3.
I THINK I KNOW THAT BY NOW OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND TOWN STAFF HAS FOUND THAT, UM, THE ONLY ITEM THAT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY MEET THE LETTER OF THE ORDINANCE IS THAT THE HORIZONTAL WINDOWS THAT ARE LOCATED BENEATH THE VERTICAL WINDOWS PROPOSED ON THE COURT ARE HORIZONTAL WINDOWS, WHICH IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
SHOULDN'T SHOW US BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE WAY YOU HAVE THIS WRITTEN IS THE WINDOWS.
SO THIS AREA HERE THEY'RE MAINTAINING THE INTENT IS TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURAL PORTIONS OF THIS PORCH.
SO THIS BEAM RIGHT HERE RUNS THROUGH, THERE'LL BE ADJUSTING THE, THESE VERTICAL POSTS IN ORDER TO MATCH UP WITH THE TOP WINDOWS.
BUT THEY'RE INTENDING TO KEEP THIS AND THIS TO KEEP THE OF THE PORCH THE SAME.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE MAINTAINING THIS THICK LINE, ADDING IN THE THIN LINES HERE TO FRAME IT BACK TO A MATCHING AN EXISTING, UH, FRAMING, FRAMING, UH, THE CODE DOESN'T MEET, BUT TO MAKE IT WORK FOR AN EXISTING BUILDING IT'S APPROPRIATE.
SO ESSENTIALLY THESE ARE TRANSOM WINDOWS.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE PROFILE OF THE PORCH, THEY ARE LOCATED BELOW THE WINDOW RATHER THAN ABOVE IT, WHICH BY DEFINITION DOES MAKE THEM NOT.
THEY MAKE THEM NOT TRANSCEND BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCATED BELOW IT AND TRANSCEND BY DEFINITION IS ABOUT TRANSOM ON THE TOP.
SO THIS IS, SO I GUESS IN THE MOTION, IT'S JUST THE HORIZONTAL WINDOWS ON THE BOTTOM.
THAT TO ME, TRANSOM REPRESENTS SOMETHING ON THE TOP.
SO THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING LET'S GO BACK TO THAT ELEVATION JUST ONE MORE TIME.
SO WE HAVE A CLEAR, SO IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE PROFILE OF THE EXISTING
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PORCH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE TRANSOMS LOCATED.THEY'RE NOT TRANSPLANTS THOUGH.
VERTICAL WINDOWS LOCATED BELOW THE, THE MAIN WINDOW RATHER THAN ABOVE.
IT'S BY USING SOME DOUBLE-HUNG AS WELL AS THE CASEMENTS DOUBLE HOMES IS TO MATCH THE DOUBLE HUNGS THAT'S ON THE HOUSE, THE EXISTING SIDE ELEVATION.
SO THE MAIN HOUSE, SO THOSE ARE WHAT'S EXISTING IN THE HOUSE.
I MUST FROM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM A FINISHED MATERIAL STANDPOINT, WHAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR THE SIDING TO BE PLAID AS WE'RE REPLACING AN ENCLOSED.
I BRING THE NAILING FIN AND WELL, YES, IT SAID IT'S AN INSERT.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE A NAILING FAN.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SECURED THROUGH THE, IT WOULD SELL FROM THE EXISTING STRUCTURAL FRAMING MEMBER WITH SOME TYPE OF VERTICAL CASING FOR THE VERTICAL ASSEMBLIES AND HORIZONTAL PIECE ACROSS THE HEAD, UM, WHERE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WOULD BE YOUR HARDY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
JOSH GIVING CONSIDERATION TO THE PLANS THAT ARE PROVIDED, DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THE SCREEN, ROB WOOD AND VERSION OF THAT SCREEN PORCH ELBOWS, HELLOS DETAILS.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE THE EFFECT, THE, UH, VISUAL.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S UH, UM, A SOLUTION HERE, THIS SPECIFY A MATERIAL, WOULD THAT, UH, BE APPROPRIATE? ARE YOU, ARE YOU PLANNING ON LEAVING THE EXISTING COLUMNS WHAT'S THERE AND THE MIDDLE PIECE AND GOING TO ATTACH THE WINDOWS TO THAT OMAN IS NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE STRUCTURE ENDED UP MATERIAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO TEST THE WINDOWS TO THE I WOULDN'T, I WOULD LOVE THIS.
I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE, THE END RESULT, ALL THAT, THAT GAP FOR THE ROUGH OPENING FROM THE WINDOW TO THE STRUCTURAL MEMBER, THAT'S GOING TO BE FINISHED.
INEVITABLY THE CORNERS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE RAMPED THE HEADPIECE, THE BAND THAT'S ACROSS THE STRUCTURAL NUMBER, ACROSS THE WINDOWS IS GOING TO HAVE TO RECEIVE SOMETHING ALREADY THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PAINTED PRODUCT.
IT'S ALL JUST THE STANDARD CERTAINLY SOLUTIONS IT COULD BE WRAPPED IN AND PRESSURE TREATED MATERIAL THAT COULD LESS, THEY ARE NOW TO MATCH.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S LIKE A FEEDER AND THE CEDAR, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A COMBINATION OF EXPOSED FRAMING, WHICH WOULD BE MOST LIKELY FOR THE LEVER OVER TOP WHERE THE PORCH EXTENDS AND THEN THE VERTICAL POST ARE ALSO PRESSURE TREATED THAT WAS DONE.
COULD IT BE DONE THROUGH HPRC? YOU WERE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THE CONSTRUCTION GUY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DETAIL THAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING
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IT'S, I DON'T KNOW.IT JUST SEEMS MORE DETAILED THAN WHAT WE GENERALLY LOOK AT, WHAT IT DOES AFFECT IT'S THE, IT WOULD BE THE TRIM MATERIAL, WHICH WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DETAIL OF THE TERM MATERIAL AND ALL OF OUR WINDOWS SECTIONS THAT COME, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE TREMORS HERO THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
THERE'S A LACK OF INFORMATION.
THERE'S A LACK OF DETAIL WAS THERE, BUT WHEN THEY JUST USE THE TRIM, THAT'S ALREADY THERE, THERE IS NO, UM, OR ANY TYPE OF TRIM THAT'S EXISTING IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE NOW, IS THERE ANY, THEY'RE USING PRESSURE TREATED AND THEY'RE USING, WE CAN MAKE IT ALL UNIFORM WITH PRECIOUS, READ IT ALL THE WINDOW SIZES THAT THE WINDOW PACKAGE HAS BEEN PROVIDED ON IN KEEPING WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT BEING SAID, WOULD YOU, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, UM, THE OTHER EMOTION OVER THIS, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT WOULD INCLUDE VERSUS I GUESS WHAT I ALWAYS TRY TO DO IS AVOID BRINGING IT BACK.
CAUSE THEN THAT'S ANOTHER MONTH DELAY.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS COULD BE BROUGHT TO THE HPRC WITH STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, HPRC AND WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTING RIGHT AS AN HPRC MEMBER, BUT AS HPC AS STAFF STAFF WOULD HAVE ANY ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
I NEED TO COME BEFORE OUR HPRC, IF STAFF, IF THE HALF A PERCENT THAT IS UP TO THE MOTION, HOWEVER, UH, BECAUSE HPRC IS NOT A DECISION MAKING BODY.
SO ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE SEEN BEFORE THE HPRC, WHICH IS CURRENTLY MADE UP OF BRUCE AND JESSE, UM, AND NEXT MONTH WE WILL ELECT ANOTHER PERSON TO SIT ON THAT, THAT BOARD AND HE LEAVES ABSENCE.
UM, THEY WOULD JUST, THEY WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHETHER IT WAS IN KEEPING WITH YOUR APPROVAL.
WE WOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION IN HPRC WITH THE ABILITY OF STAFF ACTUALLY MAKING THE DECISION, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO PASS TO BE PRESENTED TO THAT BODY FIRST.
JOSH, IF THE, UM, IF THE MATERIAL IS PRESSURE TREATED WOOD AS THE MATERIAL THAT WOULD FILL IT IN WITH THAT, THE FACTORY, OR, OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR OTHER DRAWING DETAIL? OKAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL THAT'S MISSING AS FAR AS HOW THE, HOW THE EXTERIOR WRAPPING OF DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS, VERTICAL COLUMNS.
THERE'S CLOSING THAT IN WRAPPING THAT FLASHING IT APPROPRIATELY.
SO I GUESS THE, THE VISION IS THAT THE WINDOWS WERE GOING TO BE JUST PUT IN PLACE, BUT IT NECESSARILY, ISN'T JUST A WINDOW BEING PUT IN PLACE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME ADDITIONAL FINISH WORK AROUND THE VOLUME, NOT THE MULLION, BUT THE, THE CASE OF THE WINDOW, BECAUSE BUY IT IN, FILL IN PLACE.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SLID IN AND ADDITIONAL PACING.
WHO'S GOING TO HAVE TO WRAP AROUND THEM AND BRIDGE THAT GAP FROM THE STRUCTURAL MEMBERS TO WINDOWS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING THE WINDOWS IDN FROM POST.
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THE SCREEN AND EVERYTHING IN PLACE.THERE IS A, IS A EIGHTH OF A NEW BETWEEN, WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THE THICKNESS OF THE WALL ASSEMBLY? IS IT A, IT LOOKS LIKE FIVE AND A HALF OR SEVEN AND A QUARTER.
YOU TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING FRAME THAT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE NOW.
IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW YOU GUYS TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT HAVE YOU COME BACK BEFORE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE EMOTION, THAT WOULD INCLUDE A REQUEST FOR HPRC AND STAFF TO REVIEW.
HE SEEN IN TRIM ASSEMBLIES, BECAUSE AS, AS THAT GETS PASSED, YOU'LL ALSO NEED TO GO THROUGH BUILDING CODES AND YOU'LL HAVE CLOSED AREAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THOSE TYPES OF ELEMENTS AT ALL, ALSO HAVE TO BE, YEAH.
IS THIS GOING TO BE THIS ANOTHER WORDS? ARE WE TALKING, WE'RE NOT INSULATING THIS AND ARE YOU JUST USING IT? JUST, WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT, JUST PUTTING ON A SINGLE, THE DOUBLE PAINT IS DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS, BUT WE'RE JUST, IT'S LIKE A SCREEN PORT THAT THEY USE USING FOR EVERYTHING.
MAYBE I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, BUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT HEATED AND COOLED PUTTING FINISHED RATION, IF YOU'RE PUTTING GLASS ON THE ASSEMBLY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO MEET THE BUILDING ENVIRONMENTS OF WHEN YOU'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE CALCULATIONS.
AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE IN THE, THEY'RE IN THE CUT SHEETS THAT YOU HAVE AS FAR AS I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND.
I WAS LIKE, YOU, UH, HAVE A, A FAIRLY EMOTIONAL, WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP MOTORING OUT OCEAN.
UM, SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE APPLICATION OR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, HOWEVER, AF REVIEW OF ADDITIONALLY SUPPLIED, EXTERIOR VENEER DETAILS.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION IS THAT IT IS A APPROVAL, UM, TO ALLOW THE HORIZONTAL WINDOWS LOCATED UNDER THE MAIN WINDOWS, UM, TO KEEP THE PROFILE OF THE PORCH AND TO HAVE THE EXTERIOR FINISHED MATERIALS IN KEEPING WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, INCLUDING CASING AND TRIM ASSEMBLY TO BE REVIEWED BY HPRC AND APPROVED AT A STAFF LEVEL.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, I GUESS IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
SO THEREFORE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERING THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALLOWING THE BOTTOM HORIZONTAL, UH, APPROVAL, UM, VERSUS BEING SECTION.
SO THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE CLARIFYING THAT.
SO NOW WE COULD GO INTO VOTE AND ALL IN FAVOR.
SO IT PASSED WITH MOTION MADE.
I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ALL AND HAVE A COUPLE OF DAYS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD ONE.
AND BRIDGE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET CROSSED.
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ALL RIGHT.NOW WE ARE ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX, I BELIEVE IS THAT CORRECT? AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THE FOLKS FROM PIER SCOTT HERE AND IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT TO REPRESENT A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW T TONIGHT WE HAVE BEFORE US AMANDA, WHO IS REPRESENTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW A, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A THREE STORY MIXED USE BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 4,360 SQUARE FEET TO BE LOCATED AT 2 0 2 BLUFFTON ROAD, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS LOT NINE WITHIN THE PROMINENT DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, AND SO THIS IS BLUFFTON ROAD, AS IT TURNS TO MAY RIVER ROAD.
IT IS THE SECOND LOT IN THIS IS THE GOLF CART BUILDING.
IT WILL BE THE ONE NEXT DOOR LOCATED FIRMLY IN THE, UM, BOLD RED COLOR, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD.
I HAVE THE WHEELS HAVE FALLEN OFF CORE HD ZONING DISTRICT.
THESE ARE THE TRUE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE, WHICH IS THE FIRST TRUE THING I TOLD YOU TONIGHT.
AND THIS IS THE GOLF CART BUILDING NEXT DOOR.
SO IT WILL BE THIS LOT RIGHT HERE, CLASS.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THAT UP AND LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT THIS LOT HERE, AS WELL AS THIS LOT HERE, NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THE PROMENADE IS UP HERE AND THIS IS A BUILDING PAD.
UM, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE BUILDING WITH THE COLONIZED COLONNADE, WHICH EXTENDS BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, SINCE IT IS AN OPEN COLONNADE.
UM, AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT ENCROACH PASS TO THE PROMINENCE PROPERTY LINE WITH THEIR APPROVAL, THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE WAY TO HAVE THAT PROPOSED.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IT AS MOSTLY AN OPEN SPACE.
YOU CAN SEE THE TINY LITTLE, UM, CORNER HERE IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT CHANGE OF MATERIAL.
THIS IS THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR, WHICH LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST FLOOR, MOSTLY OPEN SPACE WITH THE UTILITY PORTIONS TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIPPED ROOF THAT IS, UM, FRONTING MAY RIVER ROAD ON THIS SIDE WITH THE SIDE END GABLE AT THE REAR PORTION HERE.
SO FROM MAY RIVER ROAD, NOPE, FROM BLUFFTON ROAD, YOU WILL BE STANDING LOOKING AT THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
SO YOUR GOLF CART BUILDING WILL BE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN WITH THE VACANT LOT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN HERE, YOU HAVE THE HIPPED ROOF OVER THE COLONNADE, ALONG WITH THE SIDE FACING HIP HERE, AND THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION.
SO IF YOU WERE STANDING IN, UM, BLUFFTON BARBECUES BACK PORCH OR THE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS PORTION OF IT HERE.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE CLOSED WOOD LOUVERED THING, UM, TO REPRESENT LIKE A SLEEPING PORCH STYLE ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THIS.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED SOME PRECEDENT OF WHERE THAT WOULD, UM, HOW THAT WOULD LOOK SO THAT IT'S NOT A MYSTERY ON WHAT THAT APPEARS.
UM, AND THEN THESE ARE DOORS HERE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT ELEVATION.
SO THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES THE GOLF CART BUILDING.
UM, YOU HAVE THE COLONNADE THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LINE HERE.
SO THAT BUILDING STARTS HERE WITH YOUR BRICK ON THE TOP STORIES AND THE, UM, HARDY MATERIAL ON THE YEP.
IT'S HARDY PANELING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
UM, AND THEN THE ADDITION TO THE REAR, WHICH INCLUDES THOSE ENCLOSED SLEEPING PORCH STYLE, UM, PHASE ALONG WITH THE HORIZONTAL SIDING ON THE PRIMARY PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE, EXCUSE ME, THE LEFT ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE SIDE THAT CURRENTLY FACES THE VACANT LOT THAT WILL NOT BE VACANT FOREVER.
UM, IS THIS SIDE, IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE OTHER SIDE, EXCEPT YOU'RE SEEING THE LOUVERED PANELS, UM, THIS SIDE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE SIDE OF THE BAY THAT IS ENCLOSED.
SO YOU WON'T SEE ANY, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO STAND ON THIS PORTION HERE OUTSIDE OF THE LOUVERED PANELING.
UM, SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE SHUTTERS ON ALL WINDOWS THAT WOULD ACCEPT THEM ON THE HORIZONTAL SIDED MATERIAL.
THEY ARE NOT ON THE PORTION THAT IS BRICK.
UM, THE INTENT BEHIND THIS AND AMANDA CAN SPEAK TO IT BETTER IS THAT THIS IS, UM, UH, PRIMARY BRICK STRUCTURE THAT WAS ADDED ONTO, UM, AT SOME POINT, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO IT IS NOT TRYING TO REPLICATE HISTORY.
HOWEVER, IT IS, IS INTENDED TO BE TWO SEPARATE PIECES OF THE SAME STRUCTURE.
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DAYS BECAUSE I TOLD HER THAT IF I DIDN'T SEE EVERYTHING, I WAS GOING TO NOT LET HER COME HERE.SO I HAVE SECTIONS THROUGH EVERY BIT OF THIS BECAUSE SHE PROPOSED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT SECTIONS THROUGH THE BUILDING AND PORCHES AND LIVING SPACES AND EAS AND GABLES AND, UM, AND THE OPEN PORCH AND THE ENCLOSED PORCH AND THE COLONNADE.
UM, SO SHE REALLY HAS COME THROUGH WITH THE SECTIONS FOR ME HERE.
UM, AND I HAVE TAKEN A MICROSCOPE TO ALL OF THEM HERE.
THERE IS A SECTION THROUGH THE UTILITY AREA ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
UM, HERE ARE THE WINDOW AND DOOR DETAILS THAT SHOW THE MILLING OF THE WINDOWS.
THERE ARE WINDOW DETAILS FOR THE WINDOWS ON THE BRICK PORTION, THE HARDY PANELED PORTION AND THE, UM, SIDING PORCH, THE HORIZONTAL SIDING PORTION AS WELL.
SO WE'VE GOT ALL THREE OF THOSE WINDOW DETAILS HERE.
UM, SOME ADDITIONAL SECTIONS THROUGH THE WALL AND THE WINDOWS.
THESE ARE REALLY UNDER SECTIONS.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR WINDOW AND DOOR SCHEDULE ALONG WITH THE WINDOW DETAIL FOR THE BACK PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE BRICK PORTION SHOWING THE, UM, THE BRICK ARCH OVER AT THOSE WINDOWS.
SO THESE ARE ALL OF THE SECTIONS THAT YOU COULD ASK FOR.
AMANDA, HERE IS THE STREETSCAPE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UM, SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE BLUE ARROW POINTS TO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.
IF YOU WERE CONFUSED, AND THEN THIS IS THE GOLF CART BUILDING HERE.
SO YOU WOULD TURN INTO THE PROMENADE RIGHT HERE AND YOU WOULD HAVE BILL HUB, KURTZMAN COMMENTS RIGHT HERE THAT HAS THE LITTLE CRAB MYSTERY ON THE FLOOR AND FLUFF DROP MAY RIVER ROAD RUNS DOWN THE SIDE HERE.
WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH SHOWS THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS AROUND THE STRUCTURE.
AND I ZOOMED IN ON THE PLANT SCHEDULE FOR YOU, JESSE, AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE, THIS HAS BECOME A RUNNING JOKE WITH ME THOUGH.
AND THEN HERE ARE THE EXAMPLES OF THOSE CHARLESTON SLEEPING PORCHES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE LUBRIN COLUMNS.
AND WHEN I PASTED IT IN HERE, IT DIDN'T DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE PASTE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION IS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THAT STILL WITH THE LOUVERED INFILL ON THE SIDES.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, A MORE COMPLETE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE DOUBLE BAYS THAT YOU WILL SEE.
AND THEN ON THIS SIDE IT WOULD BE OPEN.
SO, UM, THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR EXAMPLES OF HOW THOSE MAY LOOK IN THE FIELD.
WHEN THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED, CHPC REVIEWS, THE CRITERIA WHICH ARE FOUND IN SECTION 3 18, 3 OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE HAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
ALL OF YOU HAVE, DOES NOT COMMEND THIS SOUND.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CRITERIA IN THAT SECTION 3.01 8.3 OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UM, AND FOUND THAT IF THE FOLLOWING TWO ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED, IT WILL MEET THE ORDINANCE AND CAN BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN MUST BE REVISED TO RETAIN THE EXISTING CANOPY THEY'RE PROPOSING TREE REMOVAL THAT IS OFFSITE.
AND SO THAT WOULD NEED TO NOT BE PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
UM, THERE ARE TREES BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND KEEP, FORGIVE ME.
SOUNDS GOOD TO NAME JUST A MOMENT HERE.
SO THERE ARE TREES, THIS IS THE PARKING AREA.
AND THEN THIS IS THE LITTLE CLUSTER OF TREES HERE AND TREES THAT ARE THERE, THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE RED X, YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING BLOODY YOU BUILDING.
WE CAN GO THROUGH THE POA AND BLOODY NEATER.
YOU NEED TO REMOVE THEM WHEN YOU TELL HIM.
YEAH, I MEAN, HE JUST EMAILED ME THIS AND ASKED ME TO READ THIS AND KEY FOR WHITMER JONES KEEPER.
HE'S CLOSER TO MY FRIENDS BACK THEN WHEN DAN KIEFER WITH WHITMER WIT MERCHANTS KEIFER IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND HE SAYS, WE'RE SAVING THE 20 INCH LAVISH.
AND THE SIDEWALK IS ADJUSTED TO WORK AROUND THE TREE ROOTS, PROPOSED REMOVING THE PINE TREE AND SWEET GUM TO ENHANCE THE HEALTH OF THE LIVE OAK.
THERE WAS A LAUREL OAK AND PINE WITHIN FIVE TO SIX FEET OF THE BUILDING.
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RECOMMEND REMOVING DUE TO HEALTH OF TREES WITH ADJACENT CONSTRUCTION.THERE WOULD BE A SAFETY HAZARD, SAVING THEM LIKE ME TO RESPOND.
UM, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
ONE IS, UH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, OR YOU ALL ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY WOULD ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR SIGNATURE, UM, CAN PROPOSE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
IT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS REVIEW.
HOWEVER, I DO HAVE TO NOTE THAT SECTION 5.3 0.3 KNOWS THAT THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED AROUND THE EXISTING CANOPY.
UM, SO WHILE SOME OF THOSE TREES MAY BE ABLE TO BE REMOVED, IT IS LIKELY THAT ALL OF THEM WILL NOT BE APPROVED.
UM, SO NOTE THAT THAT IS A, A, UM, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TREES TO BE BUILT ALONG THE MAIN ROAD? YES.
WITH THE STREET TREES BECAUSE OF THE STD OT RIGHT.
OF WAY ARE INCLUDED, UM, AS PALM TREES HERE, WHICH THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT IS A LITTLE WONKY.
SO THEY'VE GOT, SO WE'RE MEETING THEIR REQUIREMENT.
HE PROMINENT AS A DEVELOPMENT PLANNED AREA THAT WAS DONE BEFORE I WAS OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING.
UM, BECAUSE IT, IT HOLDS THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE IN PLACE I'M USING THIS AND MENTALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR NUMBER ONE, HOW, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I FIND, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE HEALTH CONDITIONS OF THOSE OTHER TREES, BUT YEAH.
I MEAN, I, I FIND THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
YOU ARE, THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE THAT, UM, LIVE OAK AND I, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE TO SAVE AND THE REST OF THEM, NOT EVEN IN YOUR PROPERTY.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE SAYING THAT EVEN ON YOUR PROPERTY.
WELL, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT TRICKY CHARACTER.
SO IT'S PART OF THE PROMINENT, THE POA CAN DO THAT TREE MOVE.
I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUILDING ON MY NOD, YOU HAVE BUILDING PADS, BUT CERTAIN THINGS ARE OUTSIDE.
THAT'S HOW MANY AREAS, THINGS THAT ARE NOT TECHNICALLY ON PROPERTY, BUT THERE.
SO THE POA, JUST LIKE WITH, UM, THE LETTER THAT SHE HAD ASKED FOR NUMBER TWO, WHICH WE HAVE, YES, IT HAS SAID, HAS BEEN PROVIDED FROM BILL HER PERSON AND THAT, UM, IT'S THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION.
SO YES, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE POA AND GET THAT ALL SORTED OUT LEGALLY WITH THEM SO THAT THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DAN KIEFER, JUST BASED ON THE CONDITION OF WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN TO THEM WHEN YOU START BUILDING.
I JUST CAN'T STAND TAKING A TREE OUT JUST TO TAKE IT OUT.
I JUST, WELL, THAT'S WHY HE WAS SAYING THE 20 INCH LAVA.
SO GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND IT THAT ARE TAKING THINGS FROM AWAY FROM IT WILL HELP THAT GROW.
BUT THE ONE ACROSS, I MEAN THE ONE AT THE TOP RIGHT THERE IS THAT THE PINE HAS THE EXCELLENT.
THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN, UM, I MEAN, RIGHT.
ALL THE, YEAH, THE MORAL, UH, NO IT'S ALIVE.
THE ONE WITH THE X WHAT'S THE ONE WITH UPLINE THAT LAUREL, I CAN'T READ THAT.
SO THERE IS A, IT LOOKS LIKE A LIVE OAK ACCORDING TO THIS, WHICH IS BEING SAVED NEXT TO THE PINE.
AND THEN THIS IS ALSO, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LABELED AS A LIVE OAK, A GUM, A PINE AND A LAUREL.
SO DOWN HERE IS THE LAUREL AND PINE THAT ARE WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE CORNER OF THE STRUCTURE.
THIS IS THE LIVE OAK GUM AND PINE THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.
HOWEVER, THIS IS SLIGHTLY A NON-ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS LOCATED OFF OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED THROUGH A SEPARATE APPLICATION.
SO IF I WERE TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION ON HOW EMOTION COULD BE MADE, IT IS THAT TREE REMOVAL IS PROPOSED OFF SITE AND THEREFORE MUST BE REVIEWED AS A SEPARATE APPLICATION, UM, BROUGHT BEFORE US BY THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE.
UM, AND THEN, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE'RE NOT THIS, THAT'S NOT US.
NO, I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE POA FIRST, BUT NOT THROUGH HPC FROM ANOTHER BODY.
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Y'ALL HAVE, SO AFTER WE GET IT FROM WHATEVER WE DO, WE JUST PASS IT ALONG AND WE'RE DONE AS LONG AS THE IS.I MEAN, AS LONG AS THE CANOPY IS THERE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY CORRECT.
WITHIN THE PROMENADE, IT IS DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM THAT I HAD WAS THAT A POA APPROVAL LETTER MUST BE PROVIDED SINCE FINISHING THIS PRESENTATION AND STAFF REPORT THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
AND, UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
LET THE BRICK, I HAVE TO SAY THE FACADE ON THIS THING IN THE ROOF LINE ON THAT IS REALLY INCREDIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE REALLY PAID ATTENTION, I'M PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE THEM ALL ALIGNED, LIKE THE STREETSCAPE.
SO W WITH, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE APPLE BOARD, YOU GUYS, ANYONE, AND THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EMOTION.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, UM, WITH THE TREE REMOVAL TO BE RE VIEWED AS SEPARATE TREE REMOVAL APPLICATION, FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, ALL IN FAVOR.
JUST THINKING, BUILD AROUND THE TREE.
WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, AND ANDREW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US AT THE AFRICAN TABLE, ALMOST THERE GUYS.
SORRY, I, THAT WAS NUMBER SIX AND WE'RE ONTO NUMBER SEVEN 50 TIDES.
OH, TONIGHT BEFORE US, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE AND A HALF STORY, SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 2,920 SQUARE FEET AND A CARRIAGE HOUSE OF APPROXIMATELY 1,105 SQUARE FEET TO BE LOCATED AT 42 LANE, WHICH IS IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND IT IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD.
IT REALLY IS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD.
UM, IF YOU LOOK, THIS IS CAPTAIN'S COVE, WHICH HAS THE DISPENSARY LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT CALHOUN STREET AND DO BOASTS, WHICH THIS IS THE FIRST REAL PARCEL UNDER BOASTS.
THERE'S A CORNER LOT THAT ACTUALLY IS ADDRESSED OFF OF LAWRENCE STREET.
WELL, WITHIN THE ORANGE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD ZONING DISTRICT, THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO ACCESS THE PARCEL THAT IS LOCATED BEHIND IT.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE, THIS IS THE PARCEL, AND THERE'S AN ACCESS EVENT THAT RUNS ALONG THIS PROPERTY HERE.
I JUST ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I COULDN'T READ ALL OF THE THINGS ON MY TINY SCREEN.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, UM, SO HERE IS THE PROPOSED RESIDENTS FRONTING DUBOIS.
AND THEN THIS IS, UM, THE S THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALONG LAWRENCE STREET.
SO, UH, LAWRENCE DIRT RUNS LONG BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
SO IN THIS ONE, THE, THE FRONT PORCH OR ENTRY PORCH IS LOCATED HERE.
UM, DUBOIS WOULD RUN ALONG HERE WITH THE ACCESS EASEMENT RUNNING ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR PAGE.
THE BACK WOULD BE TOWARDS THAT INTERNAL LOT.
AND THEN THE LEFT SIDE HERE FACES TOWARDS THOSE HOUSES, THAT FRONT LAWRENCE STREET.
AND THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S MUCH SMALLER.
SO IT IS A HALF STORY ABOUT THE FIRST, AND THEN THE ROUTE PLAN HERE.
UM, THE CHIMNEY DOESN'T EXIST.
I JUST CROPPED MY PICTURE POORLY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS HAS, UM, THE FRONT IS GOING TO BE A MONOLITHIC SLAB HERE, BUT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PEERS THAT RUN ALONG THIS FRONT PORTION IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SAVE A LARGE TREE, UM, TO PUSH IT AWAY FROM THAT ROOT SYSTEM.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THAT I SHOWED YOU.
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LARGE TREE RIGHT HERE.THEY'VE PUSHED IT AS FAR AS THEY CAN TOWARDS THE LEFT SIDE SETBACK, AND THEN PUSH THIS UP ONTO YOURS.
SEE IT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE HERE AS WELL.
SO HERE'S WHERE THOSE PIERS WILL GO INTO PLACE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THAT TREE WITH THE TABBY STUCCO AND WOOD PRESSURE TREATED FENCING BETWEEN THEM.
AND THEN THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION, UM, WHICH FACES TOWARDS THE, UM, LAUREN STREET HOUSES.
THEN THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
SO THIS SPACE IS TOWARDS THE BACKYARD AND THE INTERNAL LOT, UM, THAT IS LOCATED BEHIND IT.
SO IT HAS A NICE WRAPPED PORCH HERE, AND YOU HAVE A CARRIAGE HOUSE.
SO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE FOUNDATION PLAN, YOU'VE GOT THE PRIMARY MASS HERE.
AND THEN THERE IS A PERVIOUS PAPERED, UM, AREA THAT IS BEHIND THE GARAGE DOOR.
SO THE GARAGE DOORS ARE HERE, WHICH FACE THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LOT.
AND THERE IS A SMALL, UM, BATHROOM THAT IS ACCESSED FROM THE OUTSIDE THERE.
SO YOU HAVE THE, THIS IS THE AREA THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE PAVERS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN WITH THE ROOF PLAN FOR THE MAIN PORTION OF THE MASK.
THIS IS THE ROOF PLAN THAT WOULD BE EXTENDED HERE, FRESH FACING THEN.
YEAH, BUT IT HAS AN ENTIRE BLOCK BETWEEN, BUT LIKE JUST, YEAH.
IT'S FACING THE OTHER HOMES ON DUBOIS RATHER THAN THE HOMES ON LAWRENCE.
SO HERE ARE THE GARAGE DOORS THAT FACE.
SO I'VE LABELED THEM FOR MYSELF HERE BECAUSE THE, THE PLANS THAT AS, UM, AS A PACKAGE THAT'S SOLD TYPICALLY LABELS, THEN IT'S FRONT, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T MATTER, WHICH THAT COULD BE FACING THE SKY AND THEY'D STILL LEAVE A FRIEND.
SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE GARAGE DOOR ELEVATION, WHICH FACES THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LOT OR THE EASEMENT.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH FACES DUBOIS LANE.
UM, HOWEVER, THE WAY IT'S POSITIONED IT, WON'T BE SEEN FROM DUBOIS LANE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REAR ELEVATION, WHICH THE BACK OF YES, THAT FACES THE BACK OF THE LOT.
SO THAT FACES, UM, YES, THERE YOU GO.
AND THEN THIS PORTION HERE FACE STARTS LAWRENCE.
SO IF YOU SEE IT ON THE SITE PLAN, THAT MAKES IT EASIER TO LOOK AT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THOSE THINGS WHERE IT WROTE THE WORD BLUE IN THE COLOR YELLOW, AND YOU HAD TO SAY THE COLOR OF THE WRITING, NOT THE WORD ITSELF, I'M NOT GOOD AT THAT.
SO HERE'S THAT STAIRCASE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THE GARAGE DOORS ARE RIGHT HERE.
THE AREA WITH THE PAVERS IS BACK HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST SIDE.
SO PAPER, LAND, STAIRS, GARAGE DOORS, IT'S NOT BLANK, BUT BLANK SIDE, NOTHING LESS NOTABLE SIDE.
HOW ABOUT THAT? SO GARAGE DOORS, LESS NOTABLE SIDE FACING THE REAR FACING INTERNAL TO THE LIGHT.
THIS IS THE SECTION THROUGH THE GARAGE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN HERE.
SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE STAIRS, GARAGE DOORS, LESS NOTABLE SIDE PAVERS SIDE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THAT EASEMENT.
OH, THE HPC HAS ON THE LAST FEW APPLICATIONS HAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, IDEA IF A PATIENT'S BEEN BY THE APPLICANT AFTER THEY'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, THE CRITERIA FOUND IN SECTION 3 18, 3 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, WE HAVE LOU KEELEY AND ANDREW PETE'S HERE BEFORE US TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE APPLICANT.
UM, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT WITH, UM, SOME FOLLOWING.
I KEEP THE SECTION, I'M SORRY.
UM, HAS FOUND THAT WITH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BEING ADDRESSED, IT COULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION THREE POINT 18 THREE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UM, AND WOULD MEET THAT WOULD MEET THE INTENT OF THAT SECTION.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT THAT STAFF HAS FOUND.
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OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO, TO ASK QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT FIRST, THAT IS JUST FINE AS WELL.MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME KNOW WHICH WAY YOU'D LIKE TO GO THE APPLICANT, IF YOU, IF KATIE, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND THEN WE COULD GET THROUGH THEM AND THEN HAVE THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THEM, OR WE COULD AS A BOARD ADDRESS THEM, ZAP YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THE BOARD.
SO THE FIRST ITEM IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE CANOPY COVERAGE CALCULATION.
UM, THIS APPLICATION HAD A FEW LARGE TREES THAT HAD TO GO BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, AND WITH THAT, THE REVISED CANOPY COVERAGE CALCULATIONS NEED TO BE UPDATED AND PROVIDED TO FULFILL THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, BUT ALSO THE, UM, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THAT AS REQUIRED DURING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING A SITE PLAN, SHOWING THE EXISTING GRADES, CONTOURS ELEVATIONS OF THE OFFICER OFFSITE DISCHARGE POINTS, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED GRADES, CONTOURS ELEVATIONS AND OFF SITE DISCHARGE POINTS FOR THE PROPOSED AND THE EXISTING, UM, NEED TO BE PROVIDED FOR REVIEW THE WATER SHED.
AND OUR WATERSHED DEPARTMENT REVIEWS IT AS PART OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS PROCESS.
THEY'LL REVIEW THAT PART OF THE WATERSHED.
SO REALLY THAT, THAT IS WATERSHED.
IT IS A FAIRLY ADMINISTRATIVE POINT.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT THE FOOTPRINT MUST BE REDUCED TO NO MORE THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET OR THE SITE PLAN REVISED TO REFLECT THE UPDATED FOOTPRINT.
UM, THE SITE PLAN IS STILL NOTING THAT THIS EXCEEDS THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT, THE ELEVATION OR NOT THE ELEVATION SO MUCH, BUT THE FOUR PLANS, UM, IT APPEARS THEY HAVE BEEN REVISED IN ORDER TO BE WITHIN THAT NUMBER.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A SCRIBNER'S ERROR THAT HAS BEEN MAINTAINED, BUT IT CANNOT, I SEE 2000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED BEFORE IT CAN BE PLANS.
AND THEY ARE NOW 2000 FEET IT'S OH, SO WE'VE MADE, UH, UH, AN ADJUSTMENT ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO GO AHEAD AND MEET THE CRITERIA OF BEING UNDER THE 2000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN IT'S JUST OVERLOOKED ON THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE LIKE 20 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO, SO BASICALLY IT JUST NEEDS THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF AND YOU CAN REVISE YOUR DRAWINGS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
IT'S NOT EVEN NECESSARILY THAT THE DRAWINGS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
THAT THAT NUMBER JUST NEEDS TO COME OFF THE CENTER OF IT.
IT JUST SAYS ON THE CENTER, IF YOU LOOK ON IT, IT'LL SAY SO RIGHT HERE, IT'S SHOWN AS 2019 SQUARE FEET AND CHANGE YOU ELIMINATED THAT AND CHANGE IT TO THE, UM, I'M SORRY, NOT GROSS FOOTPRINT, CORRECT.
IT IS THE FOOTPRINT NOT INCLUDING PORCHES.
THE GARAGE IS A SEPARATE STONE OR A CARE CHEST.
ROGER SEPARATE, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY NOTED ON THERE.
AND THAT HAS NOT, HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED.
SO IT SAYS, I THINK 5 27, THAT ONE'S CORRECT ON THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S JUST NEVER GOT CHANGED FROM THE, THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE CANNOT EXCEED THE 2000 SQUARE FEET.
THE CARES HAS CAN'T EXCEED, UM, 1200 SQUARE FEET WITH A MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT OF 800 SQUARE FEET OF ENCLOSED SPACE OR WHATEVER THIS COULD BE DONE JUST THROUGH SUBMITTING THE PROPER DRAWINGS, REPRINTS SUBMITTED PROPER DRY, I THINK, UM, SORRY.
I, I WAS GOING TO START TO WORK ON SOME OF THOSE, I DON'T KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE GOING AHEAD.
UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT THE SERVICE, YOUR LOCATION IS NOT INCLUDED ON THERE.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE DEPICTED ON WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE PLACED AS WELL AS THE MATERIALS DIMENSIONS OF THAT PROPOSED SERVICE YARD.
UM, ITEM FIVE, IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL COLUMN MUST BE ADDED, ARE THE COLUMNS RECONFIGURED TO BE SPACED NO FURTHER APART THAN THEY ARE TALL ON THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE? SO THAT IS ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
I THINK I'VE ACTUALLY LABELED IT THE REAL ELEVATION HERE.
SO THEY ARE SPACED ABOUT SIX INCHES FURTHER APART THAN THEY ARE TALL.
WE ACTUALLY FIXED THE MAIN HOUSE BECAUSE WE CAUGHT IT AT THE CONCEPTUAL ON THE MAIN HOUSE.
AND THEN IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT, UH, UM, I OVERLOOKED AND THEN WE OVERLOOK ON THE CONCEPTUAL, BUT WE DID CATCH IT ON THE MAIN HOUSE ON THE REAR, AND THAT WAS CHANGED AND ADDRESS.
SO WE JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD AND ADD ONE MORE COLUMN TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S CENTER TO CENTER, IT'S NOT BY SIX INCHES OR THE BEAM HEIGHT.
I THINK THAT WHERE THAT WINDOW IS, IT MIGHT JUST BE EASIER TO JUST
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CALL THEM, YOU KNOW? UM, SO IT IS, THERE ARE SEVEN FEET, SIX INCHES APART IN SEVEN FEET TALL ON THAT.SO THAT'S THE ACTUAL MEASUREMENT THERE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT A TYPICAL WINDOW DETAIL SHOWING THE MATERIALS AND CONFIGURATIONS MUST BE PROVIDED.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, IS THAT A DETAIL WHICH INCLUDES THE MATERIAL CONFIGURATION AND TRANSITION BETWEEN THE TWO FENCES TYPES, UH, MUST BE PROVIDED.
ADDITIONALLY, PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING HOW IT TIES INTO THE BUILDING ELEVATION ALONG THE BOY'S LANE, UM, SPECIFICALLY INTO THE HANDRAIL AND STAIRS OFF THE MUDROOM IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THAT REVIEW.
THAT WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE HPRC MEETING.
SO THE AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THIS SPACE RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO THIS IS A 42 INCH LIVE FENCING.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A DETAIL OF THE LIVE FENCE, SO I NEEDED A DETAIL OF THAT FENCE SHOWING THE MATERIALS AND CONFIGURATIONS OF IT.
UM, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY THIS RIGHT HERE WAS THE AREA THAT WAS OF CONCERN, HOW IT TIED INTO THE HAND RAILING AND STUFF.
THAT WAS, THAT IS OFF OF THE MUDROOM.
SO, UM, OOPS, COME BACK THAT TIES IN, IN THIS AREA HERE, DETAILS OF FENCING.
THE WAY THE ORIGINAL FENCE WAS, UM, ON CONCEPTUAL, IT ACTUALLY, IT CAME STRAIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GARAGE STRAIGHT TO THAT HAND RAIL.
SO THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU COME, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TIE THAT IN? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AND NOW IT'S, IT ACTUALLY COMES OFF THE OTHER WAY AND THEN WORKS BACK TO THE GARAGE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER TO CONNECT.
CAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A HAND RAIL NOW AFTER THE SIDE, YOU CAN PUT THAT POST IN AND CONNECT TO, INSTEAD OF RUNNING STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CONCERN WASN'T THAT ORIGINAL.
SO WE JUST NEED THE DETAIL ON THAT SIMPLE DETAIL.
I, WE, WE, WE CHANGED IT, BUT I GUESS TO GET MORE INTIMATE AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
AND I ALSO, THERE'S A DETAIL OF THE PRESSURE TREATED WOOD FENCING THAT IS HERE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF TYPES OF FENCING THAT ARE PROPOSED AND NO DETAIL FOR EITHER OF THEM'S NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED.
AND I TOOK A COUPLE PICTURES OF SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE IDEAS OF, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I COULD SUBMIT TO GET TO.
UM, THE NEXT THING YOU'VE DONE PRETTY EASILY THE DETAIL.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO PROVIDE A PEER AND UNDERPINNING DETAIL SHOWING THE CONFIGURATION OF THE UNDERPINNING FOR THE RIGHT ELEVATION.
UM, SPECIFICALLY THE, UM, THE, A DEPICTION OF HOW THE PEER AND THE WOULD HOG IN INLAY IS TREATED.
UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE IT IS NOT SET BACK FROM THE PEER FACE AND THAT'S WHERE WE RUN INTO OUR CHALLENGES.
AND SO WE NEED A DETAIL OF THAT UNDERPINNING.
UM, IT WASN'T COMMON AT HBC EXCEPT THEY TOOK AWAY THE UNDERPINNING AREAS WHERE THAT WAS GOING TO BE A NECESSITY, BUT THEN THEY HAD TO ADD BACK THE UNDERPINNING FOR THE AREA THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO SAVE THE TREE.
SO, UM, YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR YOUR DEPTH TO SET THAT BACK ON THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? BECAUSE THEN I DON'T HAVE TO CHASE IT DOWN.
I'LL JUST, IT IS IN SECTION 5.1 5.60.
OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, 10 ITEMS ON MY ATTENDANT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THE ISSUE THAT COMES UP, I WOULD SAY ON ALMOST ALL OF THE UNDERPINNING, I MEAN, ALL OF THE TYPES.
SO IT'S JUST ALL, I'LL LOOK IT UP AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT DETAIL, AND ALSO DISCUSS THAT DEPTH WITH YOU AT, UM, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE KIND OF JUMPING AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF TALKING TO ANYWAY, BUT TO JUMP BACK, WE HAVE THE CANOPY, THE UPDATED CANOPY, UM, ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO DO I JUST NEED, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD? AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE IT ON THE SITE PLAN, UPDATED THE CALCULATION, I BELIEVE CALCULATED IT FROM WHEN WE MADE OUR, SO APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SOMEWHERE.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK THAT WAS AN UPDATED CALCULATION AT THE BOTTOM.
IT SAYS TREE CANOPY PROVIDED THE 75%, 75 50, AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT FOR IT AT 75% IS 64 50.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ABOVE THAT REQUIRED.
SO THIS MAYBE HASN'T JUST BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
AND SO IF YOU DO THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE TREATMENT PERMIT, IT'LL, IT'LL GO AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL SATISFY THAT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CONNECTING.
SO THE, THE, UM, WE DEFINITELY JUMPED THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE TREES THAT WERE THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE HAD SOME DISEASE THREE, SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, LIKE THERE'S A LIVE OAK, JUST GORGEOUS.
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WE CAME IN AND, AND, UH, CUT INTO THE FOUNDATION AND WE'RE NOT IN THAT PEER AND BLOCK SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE LIBO.SO THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION, I THINK, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES BACK AND FORTH.
I THINK WE'VE GOT ALL THE CHANGE, LIKE, UM, UDC IS HAPPY WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE.
YOU KNOW, BUT THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CHANGES, SO IT'S LIKE THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE HAVING, UM, YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE DETAILS WE'VE HAD TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE PLAN SO MANY TIMES, SO IT'S JUST CLEANING UP THOSE LITTLE THINGS.
AND WHEN SHE FOUND THEM, IT'S EASY TO GO.
BUT, SO THE FIRST THING WAS THE TREE CANOPIES ON THERE.
SO I WAS THINKING, OKAY, WELL, MAYBE YOU JUST WANTED TO ON THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN PLAN ON TOP OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT IF IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN, AT LEAST WE'VE GOT IT THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS, SO THEN THE 2000 WE'VE GOT THAT.
UM, THE, THE THING THAT WE LOOK FOR IS WHEN THE DRAWINGS ARE STAMPED, THOSE ARE THE DRAWINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWED.
AND IF YOU GOT IN CONSISTENCIES, THEN IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.
SO CONSISTENCIES OF THE DRAWING, AND I THINK WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS GOING TO CLEAN THOSE INCONSISTENCIES UP.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MAJOR THINGS.
I THINK IT'S JUST A FEW LITTLE LINE ITEM INCONSISTENCIES, AND THEN THE, I WAS THINKING YOU'VE ADDRESSED THEM.
SO ON THE DRAWINGS, AND THEN WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS HEARING.
UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO PROVIDE A WALL SECTION THROUGH THE EVE OF THE HOUSE, SHOWING THE CONFIGURATIONS AND MATERIALS IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED FOR REVIEW.
THE 10TH ITEM, IS THAT THE APPLICATION? UM, SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WEIRD PARCELS.
AND I, I WILL ADMIT THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY, HOWEVER, UM, THE COUNTY DOES NOT SHOW THAT MR. HALEY HERE IS THE OWNER YET, WHICH IS, UM, IT PROBABLY IT DOES THROUGH THEIR DOCUMENTS, BUT NOT THROUGH ANY PUBLIC RECORDS.
AND SO WE JUST NEED DOCUMENTATION THAT THIS IS BEEN TURNED OVER.
THEY ARE AT LEAST THREE MONTHS PLANTATION.
COULD THAT BE, UM, OTHER THAN BEING RECORDED? HOW, I MEAN, HOW ADIDAS JUST FINE OR SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THAT IT HAS BEEN TURNED OVER AND THAT WORKS JUST FINE.
HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO ASK IT, GOING TO ASK THAT YOU SUBMIT IT AS ONE PACKAGE AND THAT WORKS PERFECTLY FINE.
IT'S JUST, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WEIRD PARCELS THAT HAVE, SO YOU'RE GOING FROM THE COUNTY.
AND SO UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY'S GIS AND THEN YOU JUST NEED THAT BEHIND THREE MONTHS OR SO WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE TO SHOW THAT IN THERE.
UM, AND THEN THE TAX MAP NUMBER IS, UM, OFF ON A COUPLE OF THE DOCUMENTS.
IT IS NOT MATCHING ON THE APPLICATION VERSUS THE TAX MAP NUMBERS PACK, UH, PARCEL.
OOPS, LET ME USE MY WORDS, THE COUNTY TAX MAP VERSUS THE APPLICATION VERSUS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE NEED TO ALL LINE UP.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE SITE PLAN NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE ACCURATE FOOTPRINT FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE PORCHES AND STOOPS.
SO THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE MOST OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT AREA THAT IS UNDER A ROOF HERE.
SO THIS AREA, THIS WILL ACTUALLY EXTEND BEYOND WHAT IS BEING SHOWN, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S THAT THE ROOF LINE THAT, THAT EXTENDS BEYOND THAT WITH THE BATHROOM AREA HERE.
UM, I THINK THAT THE FIRST TWO HAD LIKE JUST THE DOTTED LINES.
AND THEN I THINK AS WE WE'VE COME FURTHER ALONG ON THE, SO HE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN HIS RECORDS JUST TO GO AHEAD AND OVERLAY THAT ROOF LINE OVER, OVER THE TOP OF THAT.
BUT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE SEEING WHAT WAS GOING TO GO AND BE PROPOSED UNDERNEATH IT.
SO HE 12TH IS THAT THE, THERE ARE A FEW NOTES THAT STILL INDICATE THAT THERE ARE EXTERIOR CHANGES TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE SITE CHARACTERISTICS AND OWNER PREFERENCE.
UM, ANYTHING THAT IS ON THESE PLANS MUST BE BUILT AS THESE PLANS SAY IN THE FIELD.
AND SO, UM, THOSE NOTES JUST NEED TO BE REMOVED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I NOTED THE TWO LOCATIONS WHERE I ACTUALLY SAW THEM, NOT JUST THE OVERALL COMMENT.
UM, SO IT IS IN THE, YEAH, I THINK YOU JUST YOU'VE CAUGHT A COUPLE OF THEM.
HE PUT SO MANY AND THEN HE ALSO PUT THE ONES FOR THE ENGINEER.
THERE'S A COUPLE UP HERE THAT JUST TALK ABOUT IT AND HOW FIELD CHANGES CAN BE MADE.
AND FIELD CHANGES CANNOT BE MADE BASED ON WHAT IS APPROVED BY THE HPC.
SO, UM, CATCH THE REST OF THOSE.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, THEY'RE PROBABLY JUST DRAWINGS WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING THEM FOR SOMEBODY TO BUILD IT.
BUT THEN US AS A BODY HAS TO HAVE THAT ELIMINATED BECAUSE THEN IT JUST MAKES IT WILLY NILLY.
AND HE'S GOT, UH, A LOT OF THOSE NOTES IN THERE, LIKE, YEAH, I'LL TAKE THEM.
AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS THAT, UM, THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, WHICH
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EXISTS AND HAS BEEN TO DRC, BUT DOESN'T YET HAVE THAT FINAL APPROVAL BECAUSE IT IS WAITING ON THE TREE ACADEMY CALCULATION UPDATE, WHICH I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH JORDAN.AND SO THIS IS THE LAST ONE IS COMPLETELY ADMINISTRATIVE.
UM, HOWEVER, ANY ITEMS THAT ARE MENTIONED BY THE DRC IN THAT TREE REMOVAL PERMIT DO NEED TO BE SATISFIED BEFORE THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE TO BE ISSUED IN.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH THE DRC AND THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED VERBALLY.
UM, BUT I, BUT JORDAN IS STILL WAITING ON SOME DOCUMENTATION TO BE SUBMITTED.
SO ONCE THAT GETS SIGNED UP THE PAPERWORK, ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THE PAPERWORK, BUT I'M NOT SURE OF THIS, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THE PAPERWORK.
I THINK THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT, WE GOT PASSED BY YOU BECAUSE HE D HE WAS SAYING, HEY, I DON'T WANT TO PASS YOU GUYS.
HAVE YOU GO AND CUT ALL THE TREES DOWN AND THEN WAIT TWO YEARS FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH THE APPROVED.
IT'S LIKE ALL THE STEPS THAT WERE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE MADE THIRD HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE READ A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU HE'S OKAY WITH HE'S OKAY WITH DOING IT BEFORE, BUT HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PASS HPRC BEFORE HE GOES AHEAD AND LETS US CUT.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE GETTING WITH THAT WINDSTORM.
THERE'S SOME TOUCHY TOUCHY TREES OVER THERE, BUT ANYWAY, I HAVE ONE MINOR SILLY LITTLE THING.
THE WINDOW THING AGAIN, DRIVES ME CRAZY.
THE REAR ELEVATION THAT WINDOW ON THE TUB.
IT'S NOT CENTERED OVER THE WINDOW BELOW AND THERE'S NO REASON I CAN'T SHIFT OVER.
AND I CAN SEE THAT JUST AS TO, AND NO ONE WOULD PROBABLY WE'LL FIND THAT CENTER.
AND THEN IF WE JUST NOTE THAT IT CAN BE DOCUMENTED ON RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, I MEAN, I JUST WANT IT, UM, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS, I GUESS THE GOES MORE WITH 13 AND D UH, DRC, BUT THE, I AM STILL CONCERNED THAT 33 INCH LIVE OAK THAT THE ON THE SITE PLAN, I MEAN, IS THAT THE FOOTPRINT I'M JUST CONCERNED WHEN YOU, WHEN I START LOOKING AT THAT AND THE ROOF OVERHANGS OF THIS BUILDING, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE FEET OVER.
I MEAN, HAS THAT BEEN VERIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT, THAT REALLY LIKE WHERE THAT, WHERE YOUR ROOF OVERHANGS ARE IN RELATION TO THAT TREE? UM, WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER THAN THAT.
UM, WHERE THAT HANGS OFF SHOULD BE ABOUT 16 INCHES.
THAT YOU'RE SAYING MORE ADJUSTED TO SAY WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING AND GOT REAL CREATIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD TREAT YOURSELF.
THIS HAS DONE AFTER THIS GUYS.
UM, THERE IS A FOUNDATION PLAN SOMEWHERE.
UM, IT'S DECIDED TO FREEZE PAGES OR SOMETHING THAT WAS Y'ALL'S CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO ME.
THERE IS A FOUNDATION PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT EXACT DISTANCE.
I BELIEVE IT'S THREE AND A HALF FEET FROM THE, UM, THE WALL AND THE OVERHANG ON THAT.
I DON'T HAVE A WALL SECTION, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS EXACTLY.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE, FOUR, ACCORDING TO THE ROOF PLAN.
AND I MEAN, I'M NOT SEEING IT.
I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I MEAN, I'M HOPING THAT TREE'S GOING NOT TOWARDS THE BUILDING AT ALL.
WELL, I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH.
WE'VE GOT THOSE LOOK PRETTY STRAIGHT.
WE'VE GOT 16 INCHES, 62 FEET MINUS FOOT AND A HALF.
SO IT IS GOING VERY VERTICAL THERE, WHICH IS GOOD.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO IS, IS IF WE HAD TO, WE COULD DO A KNOCKOUT AT THAT, AT THAT AREA.
IF WE HAD TO, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT COMES UP.
UM, BUT THERE, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW IN OLD TOWN WHERE THEY'VE JUST KIND OF KNOCKED OUT IF THEY, THEY RAN INTO THAT.
EVEN IF I HAD TO GO BACK IN A FOOT, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE AT
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20, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.PASSIONS, OFFICIAL COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT.
THAT MEANS WE'RE LOOKING FOR EMOTION.
HOPE SOMEBODY'S TAKING SOME NOTES.
THE ONLY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ALL UPHILL.
I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, IT'S NOT FOR US.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
I SECOND COMMENTS THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOOD OR BECAUSE YOU HAD A SECOND, SO I'M, I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSIONS.
NOW, SO THE FACT THAT ALL IT IS IS A MATTER OF RESUBMITTING, THE PROPER DRAWINGS TO PRESS ALL OF THESE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IT IS HER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MEANING ONCE THEY'VE SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION, THAT STAFF CAN REVIEW THOSE, IF IT'S OKAY.
SO THE STAFF COULD REVIEW IT WHEN THEY GET THE PROPER DRAWINGS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S JUST A CHECK-OFF AND IT'S THERE.
THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION.
SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I MISSED IT KIND OF IN THE SCUFFLE I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR WHO SECONDED THE MOTION.
BEFORE I WENT INTO DISCUSSION.
I WILL FOLLOW UP IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
IT'LL HAPPEN TOMORROW BECAUSE I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.
IT'S LIKE WE HAVE NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER EIGHT, 10, BUT BECAUSE WE HAD TWO OLD BUSINESSES, BUT NUMBER EIGHT ON THE NEW BUSINESS, THAT'S RIGHT.
WE HAVE NUMBER EIGHT ON THE NEW BUSINESS.
SO LET'S SEE HAVE ANGSLEY LAST BUT NOT LEAST TONIGHT BEFORE US, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THE APPLICATION TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY MIXED USE BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 2,520 SQUARE FEET AND A CARRIAGE HOUSE OF APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET TO BE LOCATED AT 57 90 GILFORD PLACE, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS LOT TO NINE IN THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS HERE IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND IT IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD.
SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, UM, IS THE EXISTING LITTLE, UM, IT WAS A LAW FIRM WHEN I LEARNED WHAT TO CALL IT, BUT THE LITTLE RED BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND THERE IS, IT IS STILL A LOT FOR IMPERFECT.
UM, AND THEN IT IS THE BUILDING DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THAT.
UM, YOU'VE SEEN THE POCKET PARK THAT RUNS ALONG THE FRONT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO ACTUALLY POCKET PARKS DOWN HERE, BUT THIS IS, UM, THE STREET STREETSCAPE THAT RUNS ALONG THE FRONT HERE.
SO THIS IS STREETSCAPE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE, BY THE WAY, IT IS CLOSE TO IT.
THEY'LL BE MONITORING IN THE ORANGE.
AND THESE ARE THE EXISTING OF THE SITE.
IT IS MAJORITY TREES AT THIS TIME AND BRUSH.
SO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN RIGHT HERE.
YOU'VE GOT MAY RIVER ROAD ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
SO NORTH IS TO THE LEFT AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, GILFORD PLACED BEHIND YOU.
THERE IS EXISTING PARKING, UM, THAT IS INTENDED FOR THE USE OF THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS FLOOR PLAN.
IT IS A VERY SQUARE STRUCTURE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE MAIN STRUCTURE WITH THE FRONT FACING NEIGHBOR OF A ROAD AT THE BASE.
IT IS SCREENED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
IT LABELED AS FOOD ON THE FIRST FLOOR THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S IT'S LABELED A SCREEN NUMBER FOUR.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR HERE.
SO, UM, FOR SOME REASON THE PICTURE DOESN'T SHOW UP VERY WELL HERE, BUT THE WALL CONTINUES.
UM, SO THE WALL MATERIAL IS IDENTICAL TO THAT.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT JUST FITS IN BETWEEN THESE WINDOWS THAT ARE SHOWING UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.
THE CARRIAGE HOUSE FLOOR PLANS, UM, ARE BEFORE YOU, THE WHEELS HAVE FALLEN OFF FROM SORRY, GUYS, UM, WITH IT HAS AN OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH STORAGE BAYS ON THE GROUND FLOOR, A STAIRCASE THAT LEADS UP TO A ONE DWELLING UNIT APARTMENT ON THE SECOND FLOOR THERE.
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THIS IS THE ROOF PLANS, FAIRLY SIMPLE RESTRUCTURE.AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE SCREEN PORCH AREA ON THE TOP, ON THE BOTTOM.
IT IS NOT SCREENED IN, UM, IT HAS BRICK ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS THEN IT HAS SIGNING ON THE SECOND AND, UM, IN THE GABLED END HERE AT THE TOP.
SO THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION FOR SOME REASON, I APOLOGIZE THAT IT IS FOLDED THROUGH HERE.
FOR SOME REASON THE, UM, ELEVATIONS WERE COMING OFF, HALF THE LIONS ON THE BACK PORTION OF IT.
WEREN'T SHOWING UP IN MY PDF TODAY.
AND SO I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT WITH MY CELL PHONE.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU ALL CAN SEE IT.
IF YOU ARE RESOURCEFUL, IT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE, UM, IN YOUR BACK POCKET TO IT IS THE FULL SIZE SET OF PLANS THAT I HAVE FOLDED AND HAS BEEN RUBBER BANDED FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW.
SO THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS THE BRICK COLUMNS HERE AT THE BASE.
YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRCASE BEHIND IT.
HERE'S THAT SCREEN PORCH YOU SAW ON THE FRONT ELEVATION.
AND THEN THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE SIDE THAT FACES INTO STOCK FARM.
UM, SO IT HAS LOUVERED WALLS HERE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW ON THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION TONIGHT, AS WELL AS THE, UM, OPEN BAYS HERE.
THIS IS A PROJECTION LIKE A BAY WINDOW ALMOST.
UM, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A BAY WINDOW, BUT IT IS A PROJECTION OUT IN THE SECOND STORY.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT FROM THE SIDE ELEVATION HERE.
SO THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION THAT'S LABELED AS THE RIGHT ELEVATION BECAUSE I WAS FLUSTERED BY SEE, THIS IS WHAT IT WAS DOING, WHERE THE, UM, MATERIALS WEREN'T SHOWING UP FOR SOME REASON ON HERE, THIS FINISHES AS JUST THE SAME ROOFLINE AND A STRAIGHT WALL DOWN WITH THE SAME CORNER DETAIL AS THE OTHER SIDE.
SO, UM, YOU ARE NOT MISSING ANYTHING BY LACKING THE LINES THAT ARE NOT SHOWING UP HERE ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
UM, BUT YOU HAVE SIMILAR LIVERING DETAIL ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AS YOU DO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
UM, YOU HAVE FRENCH DOORS ON THE BASE, AS WELL AS THE WINDOWS ON THE TOP HERE.
AND, UM, THE SIMILAR GABLED ROOF AND MATERIALS THAT YOU SAW ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE HERE ARE THE WALL SECTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED WELL AS A SECTION THROUGH THAT PORCH, NOT NEARLY AS MANY SECTIONS, BUT NOT NEARLY AS MANY DETAILS OR MATERIALS THAT AMANDA EITHER.
SO, UM, ALTHOUGH SHE DID GIVE ME SECTIONS THROUGH ALL OF THOSE PIECES.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, SECTION THROUGH THAT ANCILLARY BUILDING AS WELL.
THEN THERE IS A WINDOW AND DOOR SCHEDULE, UM, NOTING THAT THEY ARE TO BE METAL UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED.
SO THEY ARE TO BE METAL AS WELL AS YOUR WINDOW DETAIL HERE.
AND THE GUARD RAIL THAT RUNS THROUGH WITH THE PICKETING HERE IS YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, SO THIS IS THE PARKING THAT'S INTERIOR TO THE SITE.
I FLIPPED YOUR NORTH ARROW ON YOU JUST TO SEE IF YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
CAUSE MAY RIVER ROAD IS NOW ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
SO THIS IS YOUR PORCH THAT HAS THE SCREEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE BRICK COLUMNS ON THE FIRST.
THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE LOUVERED PANELS.
YOUR CARRIED HOUSE IS TOWARDS THE REAR WITH THE SAME LOUVERED PANELS AND THEN THE PARKING INTERIOR TO STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, PICKET FENCE THAT RUNS PARTIALLY THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THE LANDSCAPING BEYOND THAT WILL REMAIN.
SO THAT IS GOING TO STAY AS IT IS HERE IS THE CANOPY COVERAGE CALCULATIONS.
UM, AS WELL AS THE PLANT SCHEDULE, I DID CUT PART OF THIS OFF, BUT IT IS COMPLETE IN YOUR PACKET.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DID SEE THE, UM, EXISTING CANOPY VERSUS THE PA AND THE PROPOSED.
SO THIS LAID ON TOP OF THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT WILL BE THERE.
AND THEN THESE ARE YOUR PLANTS, JESSE, YOUR PLANTS.
THIS IS THE DRAINAGE AND GRADING, UM, THAT IS, HAS BEEN PROPOSED AND REVIEWED BY STORMWATER.
THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE, UM, AFFIDAVIT PROCESS AND THE STORMWATER REVIEW AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT AS WELL.
AND AS A SORT OF FOOD APPROPRIATENESS, IF YOU HAVE NOT CAUGHT ON YET TONIGHT, YOU CONSIDER THE CRITERIA IN 3 18, 3 OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
TOWN STAFF FOUND THAT WITH A FEW CONDITIONS, IT WOULD MEET THOSE CRITERIA AND, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR A APPROVAL.
THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS THAT A TOWN OF BLUFFTON TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED.
IS THERE A TREES ON THE SITE THAT ARE LARGER THAN EIGHT INCHES IN DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT? COMMERCIAL IS EIGHT INCHES DIAMETER, BREAST HEIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THAT NUMBER.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THAT APPROVAL FROM THE STOCK FARM POA IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
SO THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE POA AND A LETTER PROVIDED BACK TO STAFF.
UM, THE THIRD IS THAT A SIGN PERMIT IS REQUIRED.
A SITE FEATURE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR ANY SIGNAGE HAS PROPOSED.
I PUT THIS COMMENT ON EVERYTHING THAT IS A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE, BECAUSE I NEED
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TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACKNOWLEDGED AND BROUGHT FORWARD.UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROPOSED ON THIS SPECIFICALLY.
THE NEXT ONE IS THAT THE COLONY DEPTH MUST BE INCREASED TO BE A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FEET, UM, FROM BUILD TWO LINES, THE PRIMARY WALL OF THE BUILDING TO THE INSIDE OF CALM FACED.
CURRENTLY IT'S MEASURED TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE COLUMN FACED, WHICH IS A BELIEVE IT'S A, IS IT A 10 INCH BRICK? HOW BIG IS THE COLUMN? OKAY.
SO SIR, CURRENTLY IT'S, IT'S SEVEN FEET TO THE INSIDE OF CALM FACE.
SO IT'S JUST A ONE FOOT DIFFERENCE THERE.
AND THEN DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK TO THAT IN PLACE? I'M SORRY, I'M GOING THROUGH FAIRLY FAST.
LET'S JUST START LOOKING AT YOUR FACE.
AND WE'LL GO BACK TO ANYTHING TO HAPPEN.
THE NEXT ONE IS JUST TO PROVIDE A DETAIL FOR THE SCREEN PORCH AREA WHERE THE RAILING IS.
UM, THE SCREEN PORCH WAS SHOWN BETWEEN THE COLUMNS, BUT THE HANDRAILS THAT GO BEHIND IT.
UM, AND THE, UM, SO THAT ONE, I DO THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT'S WHERE YOUR PORCH.
SO IF YOU ZOOM IN ON THE, UM, I CAN SEE THE, UM, WHERE IT SAYS PRESSURE TREATED TO BEFORE REAL IT'S.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN ITSELF, YOU'LL SEE THE SCREEN.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT OR, UM, THE, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE, UM, THE BALUSTRADES THANK YOU.
THAT THE, IN BETWEEN THE, UM, THE ELEVATION SHEET OR JUST AN N ON A SECTION, YES.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE, SO THIS I'M LOOKING FOR THIS PART.
OH, NO, I HAVE, UM, I PROBABLY HAVE, UH, BACK TO THAT.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR THIS PART ON THIS PART, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF CODE TOO.
SO, UM, OPTIONAL WIRE SCREEN BELOW 36 INCHES.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT SAYS OPTIONAL, OPTIONAL SIX SCREEN WITH ALL YOUR SCREEN BELOW THE 30, I'M GOING TO HAVE THE PICKET SCREEN, BUT IT'S GOING TO NOT BE AN OPTIONAL.
IT'S GOING TO BE, YEAH, I NEED TO DELETE.
SO OPTIONAL REMOVED OR THE DETAILS SHOWN.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN, IF THIS IS, IF IT IS THE HPCS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, THIS CONDITION CAN STAND.
AND EITHER THAT THIS CONDITION WOULD COVER OPTIONAL BEING REMOVED OR THOSE PICKETS INSTALLED, IF BUILDING SAFETY SHOWS THAT THAT IS A NECESSITY, UM, I KNOW THAT THIS COME UP, I'LL SAY ANSLEY, THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE AND IT HEARING ON THAT.
BUT PRIOR CONVERSATION, THAT BUILDING INSPECTIONS, I'VE SEEN IT DONE, I'VE DONE IT.
AND THEN IF THEY TELL ME I CAN'T DO IT, THE OPTIONAL VALUE STRIDER REQUIRED THAT WORKS TO MATCH OR WHATEVER I'M SAYING, YOU CAN'T DO A TWO STORY AS YOU HAVE TO PROTECT SOMEONE FROM FALLING THROUGH, UM, NO BABIES FALLING OFF THE PORCH OR MONKEYS.
AND IT WAS MENTIONED BY, OH, I REMEMBER THAT.
I TOLD YOU REMEMBER THAT I'M NO LONGER GOING TO ALLOW THE Y.
AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT AS A BUILDER THEY'RE REALLY, BUT JUST, IT COMES UP.
SO THERE'S THAT MORE OF A BUILDING CODE ISSUE OR AN HP KIT, IS IT REALLY ISN'T NECESSARILY ON US AS MUCH, BUT FOR THE AESTHETIC COMPONENT OF IT, CORRECT.
IF THE, UM, IF THE RAILING WERE TO
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MATCH THE RAILING ON THE PORTIONS THAT ARE NOT SCREENED, IT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE.SO IF THE SCREENING COMPONENT, THE MESH COMPONENT IS NOT APPROVABLE AND Y'ALL WANT TO PUT THE RAILINGS AS A CONTINUATION, SIMILAR TO THE AREAS THAT ARE UNSCREENED THAT WOULD MEET THIS AS A CONDITION WOULD ALLOW FOR EITHER OF THOSE THINGS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND THAT WOULD, IT ALLOWS FOR IT TO GO EITHER WAY ON THAT IF THAT'S FOUND, UM, NEXT ONE IS A SHUTTER DOG DETAIL JUST NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED.
I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF WINDOW DOOR PROPORTIONS SHOULD BE RE REDUCED TO PROVIDE A BETTER PROPORTIONAL RELATIONSHIP.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT.
THIS IS, I HAVE TO REFERENCE MY STAFF REPORT BECAUSE I, UM, HAVE LOOKED AT A LOT OF PLANS THIS MONTH.
GUYS, THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE HAS FIVE DIFFERENT WINDOW SIZES EACH WITH DIFFERENT PORTIONS.
AND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE HAS TWO ADDITIONAL TYPES, WHICH AREN'T USED ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
UM, SO JUST REDUCING THAT NUMBER TO THE SMALLEST NUMBER POSSIBLE, THE STRUCTURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND TO HELP, OH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR WINDOW SCHEDULE.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE WINDOW SCHEDULE.
YOU HAVE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR SCHEDULE.
I'LL MAYBE EASIER TO GO TO THE ELEVATIONS AND BECAUSE I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBER THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO REDUCE IT TO.
I THINK WE COULD JUST LOOK THROUGH THE ELEVATIONS AND IF IT'S LOOKING, SO THIS SIDE HERE IS WHERE IT'S THE MOST PROMINENT.
THERE IS 1, 2, 3, 4, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS ANOTHER TWO AND 5 1, 2, 3, 4.
SO THAT ONE WINDOW ON THE LEFT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, COULDN'T THAT BE JUST CHANGED TO, RIGHT? OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I BELIEVE I'VE GOT A AND THE UPSTAIRS WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR YOU GOT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
SO CAN YOU JUST, WELL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE IS IF WE GO BACK TO THAT, I COULD JUST DO AWAY WITH THE SMALL WINDOW ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THAT'S SERVING THE BATHROOM, RIGHT.
AND THEN ON THE ATTIC LEVEL, I LIKED HAVING ATTIC WINDOWS ON EACH SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL ATTIC, BUT IT COULD JUST BE A LITTLE, I COULD JUST BE THIS, THE WINDOW INCREASED TO BE THE SAME SIZE AS A, AS ANOTHER WINDOW, EITHER THIS WINDOW OR THIS ONE, THIS ONE WAS GOING TO LARGE, BUT I DON'T MIND THE SMALLER ONE IN THE ATTIC.
THE ONE, TWO THAT WAS B FOUR ON THIS SIDE.
UM, R I COULD TAKE THAT OUT HIS WINDOW AND THE BATH WINDOW COULD BE THE SAME SIZE AS THE ATTIC WINDOW BLINDS AND ON THE BATHROOM ANYWAY.
NO, IT COULD BE REMOVED THE TWO, THE OTHER FOUR WOULD STILL BE DIFFERENT IF YOU REMOVE THE TWO, THE OTHER FOUR WOULD STILL BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO YOU'D HAVE, IF THIS ONE WENT AWAY, IT'D BE 1, 2, 3, 4, ON THIS SIDE, ON THIS SIDE, WE'LL HAVE WHAT'D YOU GUYS BE OKAY IF SHE JUST MADE THE BATHROOM WINDOW LONGER, LEFT IT SMALLER, JUST MADE IT THE WIDTH OF THE KITCHEN WINDOW, THE DEPTH HEIGHT, THE KITCHEN WINDOW, THAT WOULD STILL BE A FIFTH SIZE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THE PROPORTION.
IT'S THE PROPORTIONS OF THE WINDOWS, RATHER THAN THE WINDOWS.
CAUSE THE SHUTTERS WERE GONNA END UP.
I'LL JUST DO AWAY WITH THE BATH WINDOW.
AND THEN THIS IS, UH, LET'S SEE, THIS IS THE SAME AS ONE OF THE SIDE WINDOWS.
AND THIS IS WHAT, SAME AS ONE OF THE SIDE WINDOWS, BUT THIS IS A THIRD WINDOW TYPE HERE ON THE, I DO WANT TO DISCUSS THAT ONE.
THAT IS A BOX BAY AND THAT'S BOXED OUT.
SO IT GIVES IT SOME LIBERTY TO BE SOMETHING, A LITTLE DIFFERENT IT'S PANELED ON THE BOTTOM.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE THE BED WALL FOR THAT BEDROOM.
UM, I DON'T, I FIND THAT A LOT OF TIMES BOX BAYS ARE BAYS.
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I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE LIBERTY IN WINDOWS BEING DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE HOUSE, BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE IT TO DOUBLE HUNGS, I CAN DO THAT.I JUST THINK IT'S TOTALLY A DIFFERENT EXPRESSION THERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE A PANELED BOTTOM.
UM, REALLY NEED TO SEE IT FROM THE REAR.
I PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S A DIFFERENT, IT'S NOT THE SAME WALL FROM THE EXTERIOR.
I MEAN, IT'S WITH THE PANEL AND IT ADDS A WHOLE NOTHER AND IT'S NOT SHOWING REAL WELL IN THIS ELEVATION.
JUST THE DEPTH OF FIELD TO BE CLEAR.
IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT SPECIFIC WINDOW BEING DIFFERENT.
IT'S THAT THERE ARE S THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT TYPES OF WINDOWS.
SO THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A WINDOW TO BE A DIFFERENT PROPORTION THAN OTHERS, BECAUSE IT IS THAT, UM, PROJECTION WITH THE, THE ALTERNATE SIDING.
HERE'S YOUR ONE WINDOW ON THE FIRST FLOOR, DIFFERENT FROM THE WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO THE LEFT, LOOKS LIKE THAT'S DIFFERENT, RIGHT? I'LL HAVE, I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT I'VE LEFT.
THE TWO LEFT WINDOWS VERSUS THE ONE SOLE SINGLE WINDOW ON THE RIGHT.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT WINDOWS.
WE'RE AT THE BACK ON THERE, A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THERE'S NOT THERE ISN'T, WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER.
IT'S JUST KIND OF AN AMBIGUOUS SHUTTLE CONSTRUCTION PATTERNS, SECTIONS 32 AND 33 INDICATE THAT IT SHOULD BE IN.
I HAD TO MAKE THE ARENA MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR, DEPENDING ON AT THE WINDOW.
YOU'RE SEEING AT THE BOTTOM IS THAT THE HANDICAP BATHROOM.
AND IN ORDER TO GET A GRAB BAR ALONG THE, UH, NEXT TO THE TOILET, I HAVE TO HAVE IT.
THE SILL HEIGHT BE HIGHER, OR THE GRAB BAR WILL END UP IN THE WINDOW.
THAT'S THE SAME AS ON THE SIDE, ELEVATION, THOSE TWO ARE THE SAME.
AND THAT'S THE SAME AS THIS ONE HERE IS A CNC.
SO THAT'S ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF KEEPING THE BATHROOM WINDOWS THE SAME, BUT IT'S IN THE COMMERCIAL FLEX SPACE, POSSIBLY MAKING THAT THE SAME SIZE AND MAYBE PUTTING TWO WINDOWS IN THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, RUNNING, SEES WHERE THE A'S ARE, UM, THE COMMERCIAL FLAT.
SO CAN I ASK YOU ALL SOMETHING IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S THE REAR AND FRONT THAT YOU'RE FINDING TOO BUSY.
THERE ARE, THERE WERE IN THE FRONT ARE GOOD TO ME, BUT THEN SIDE IS REALLY KIND OF PROBABLY SPECIFICALLY THE LEFT SIDE AND THE RIGHT SIDE LOOKS PRETTY NICE.
SO CAN, CAN WE GO TO THEIR SIDES AGAIN? I THINK, YEAH.
THAT SIDE, JUST TO GET IT DOWN TO THREE, THE ATTIC AND THEN TWO DOUBLE HUNGS, BUT THAT BE SATISFACTORY.
THAT'S JUST REMOVING THAT BATHROOM ONE, RIGHT? YES.
THE BATHROOM WINDOW WOULD GO AND THEN I COULD MAKE THE LONG WINDOW YOU'RE SEEING AT THE BRICK PORTION TOWARD THE SCREEN PORCH.
I COULD MAKE IT THE SAME SIZE AS THE, UH, ON THE MAIN LEVEL.
YOU'RE MAKING THE ONE TO THE RIGHT.
THE SAME SIZE AS THE ONE TO THE LEFT ON THE MAIN LEVEL.
IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE SAYING YES, I COULD DO THAT.
AND THEN I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT SIDE.
I THINK, SEE US, ASK YOU TO REMOVE A BATHROOM WINDOW PREFERENCE.
WE TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE, CAN YOU SHIFT THE WINDOW OVER AND MAKE IT LONGER? WHERE CAN WE TAKE THAT A IN THE COMMERCIAL FLEX SPACE AND MAKE THAT A C OR TO SEE POSSIBLY DOING THE SAME THING.
IF YOU'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE SHUTTERS, JUST MOVE THE, THE WINDOW IN THE BATHROOM TO THE LEFT TO MAKE.
SO THE SHUTTERS, YOU'RE NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE, YEAH.
THE SHUTTERS WOULD WORK AND YOU CAN MAKE IT THE SAME SIZE AS THE KITCHEN ONE.
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I'LL TRY DOING THAT.IF I GOT IT DOWN TO MAYBE THREE SIZES, FREEDOM WINDOW SIZES.
WOULD THAT SATISFY THE BOARD FIVE RIGHT NOW? LEFT SIDE.
YEAH, EXACTLY THE SAME TIME TOO MANY WINDOWS.
GOT THEM BOTH LABELS LEFT GUYS.
UM, SO WANT ME TO REVISE AND THEN RUN IT BACK BY EVERYONE OR JUST LEAVE IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
DON'T YOU AGREE THAT IF SHE AGREES TO CHANGING WHAT WE STATE THAT INSTEAD OF BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BODY, CAUSE THAT BRINGS IN ANOTHER MONTH, YOU KNOW, IF THE H YOU KNOW, THE HPRC CONCEPT AND THEN STAFF, UH, BEING THE APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, 30 PEOPLE A MONTH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH KATIE, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE IT.
IF SHE DOES, WHEN SHE SAYS SHE'S GOING TO DO, I FEEL FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, IF, IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND WHEN IT COMES BACK TO ME, I LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WHOA, WHAT'S GOING ON? UM, I CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE HPC, IF I AM NOT COMFORTABLE, MAKING SURE THAT IT MEETS THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU HAVE HAVE MADE IN YOUR MOTION.
UM, HERE'S ANY REASON FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO US.
AND I THINK THAT FROM THE, OH, YES, I'M SORRY.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS THE DRIVEWAY AREA.
UM, AND BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THIS SITE FOR A VEHICLE, THE WAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN INDICATES THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PEDESTRIAN ONLY UNLESS IT WENT THROUGH.
ALSO, I HAVE A CONCERN REGARDS TO WHAT'S SHOWN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING ONLY ALLOWS ONE COMMERCIAL IN TWO RESUMES.
AND THE WAY THIS HAS SHOWN IS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF HAVING TWO COMMERCIALS.
SO MIKE, I HAVE A CONCERN OF THE WAY THIS HAS SHOWN ORIGINALLY WAS CONNECTED BECAUSE I HAD TO MAKE THE, AND THE NARRATIVE.
AND I ALWAYS ASSUMED IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL USES.
IT MAY BE IN THE COVENANTS, UM, AND HE LIVES IN SACRUM.
SO HE MAY BE SPEAKING TO THAT TENANTS FOR THAT CARRIE'S HOUSE.
SO TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY OFFICE SPACE IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED BY THE, BY ONE OF THE EXISTING TENANTS.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONE IN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
UM, BUT YOU'RE NOT CREATING ANY MORE PROBABLY BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S DRAWN IN THE WAY, AND IT VERY EASILY COULD BE, GO AHEAD WITH THE STORAGE, SOME OF THE TENANTS, MR. CHAIRMAN FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY THE NUMBER OF TENANTS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF IT.
SO IT COULD BE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT OFFICES.
UM, THE COVENANTS FOR STOCK FARM MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT THE ACTUAL ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN LAST AMENDED IN 2016 OR WHATEVER, I WROTE MY STAFF REPORT, UM, DOESN'T INDICATE A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL USES, BUT
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IT DOES INDICATE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO BE USED IN THAT SPACE.SO THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE IN THE PRIMARY AND ONE IN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE, UM, TO, TO BE A TOTAL OF TWO AND A LOT, WHICH THEY'RE MEETING THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION AND THE COMMERCIAL PORTION THEY'RE MEETING FOR BLUFFTON.
IF THE STOCK FARM POA RESTRICTS IT TO ONLY ONE USE THAT IT MAY NEED TO BE RESTRICTED TO THAT RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND BY NOT MEETING THE CODE FOR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE, IT MAY NEED TO BE A HOME OFFICE ANYWAYS, UM, BASED ON WHAT JOSHUA WAS SAYING THERE, BUT I DON'T MEMORIZE THAT CODE BOOK.
I ONLY MEMORIZE THE BLUE ONE, GOING BACK TO THAT POINT OF THE GARAGE DOORS BEING USED FOR, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING, KATIE? UM, THIS IS THE SPACE.
SO THIS IS AN EXISTING SIDEWALK AND PARKING THAT HAS THE CURB STOPS HERE.
UM, AND SO IT'S JUST THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE INDICATED ON HERE THAT IT IS FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ONLY, UM, AND NOTE THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE, UM, ACCESS FOR.
UM, UM, SO THE SITE PLAN IS TO JUST INDICATE THAT IT IS, IT CAN BE A CONCRETE PATIO.
IT CAN BE A CONCRETE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, BUT IT CANNOT BE A DRIVEWAY THAT IS BEING USED FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT HAVE VEHICLES CROSSING THE SIDEWALK WITHOUT THAT'S GOING TO ASK IT THE GOLF CART PARKING.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS I HAD PUT THE MONKEY OVER HERE, WHO SAID THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE, MARIA, UM, DRAUGHTY UH, SO, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING ON TO LANDSCAPE BACK TO ME, WISHING YOU CAN GIVE IT BACK TO YOUR PATTIES.
UM, WE DID THINK POSSIBLY SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO STORE, IT CANNOT BE A GOLF CART STORAGE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS, UM, WITH, UM, GIVE ME THE WORD THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, THE TEXTURE CROSSINGS FOR PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR ACCESS.
SO THE SITE PLAN AND THE INTENT OF THIS DESIGN THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION CANNOT BE FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS BECAUSE IT IS, DOES NOT HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS.
YOU MAKE IT KILLER ACCESS THERE.
YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU ELIMINATE ONE OF THE PARKINGS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO PUT TWO PARTS.
WE KNOW OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO, I HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE WORD DRAGWAYS BASICALLY PATIO.
PEDESTRIAN PASS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ELIMINATED OR SOMETHING, OR IT CANNOT BE INTENDED FOR VEHICULAR USE.
UM, THAT IS ALL I HAD ON THE, I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY ONE, UH, CORRECT ME WAS THE, WE REALLY, UM, THAT COLONNADE ONE WITH THE BRICK COLUMNS THAT WERE 20 INCHES.
CAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IT'S WHAT SIX FOOT FOR SEVEN FEET FROM THE INTERIOR WALL TO INSIDE COLUMN PLACE.
IF I MEASURED CORRECTLY, WHEN I WROTE THIS DOWN BEFORE THIS IS THE COLUMN, AND THEN IS IT, IS IT LIKE AN EIGHT INCH CALM, WRAPPED WITH BRICK OR WHAT IS SO WHAT'S THE COLONNADE IT HAP SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST FLOOR, CORRECT? CORRECT.
I'VE GOT A, UM, A BRICK WRAPPED.
WHAT SIZES? THE COMB, THE COLUMN ITSELF, THAT BEING 20 INCHES BY 20 INCHES.
IT'S ABOUT 20 INCHES BY 20 INCHES, EIGHT FOOT MINUS 20 INCHES.
SO YOU'RE AT SIX, EIGHT, RIGHT? FOR RIGHT.
WHEN I MEASURED IT ON THE FLOOR PLANS, IT WAS SEVEN FEET FROM THE INSIDE OF WALL TO THE INSIDE OF THE COLUMN FACE THAT SHOWED THE BRICK WRAPPING ON IT.
IF THAT IS NOT ACCURATE, WE HAVE OTHER CONCERNS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE FLOOR PLAN, SO IT'S 16 INCHES, THE DIMENSION TO EIGHT FEET IS FROM, WELL, OKAY.
SO IT'S FROM THE FRAME WALL TO THE CONCRETE BLOCK FACE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE I'VE GOT TO INCREASE IT FROM THE WORK FACE TO THE BRICK.
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THE ALTAR.WELL NOW WITH METAL ROOF METAL ROOF, YOU CAN JUST GO TWO AND A HALF AT FOUR 12 ON THE FRONT.
I DON'T EITHER, BUT I TRIED TO, I TRIED TO FIX IT.
THE DIGITAL VERSION THOUGH IS THE SAME, BUT YEAH, I'M SORRY.
YOUR PRINTED VERSION IS WHAT IS FOUR 12 RIGHT NOW? I HAVE TO COME OUT JUST SORT OF THREE 12.
I MEAN, I PUT A SCALE TO IT, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SCALE IT WITHOUT WHAT IT SAYS, BUT I DID PUT A SCALE TO IT.
AND SO A FOOT IS WHAT I AM ASKING BASED ON THE DRAWINGS, THE FRONT BESOTTED AREA, IT GETS REDUCED BY 20 INCHES.
SO IF IT'S GOTTA BE EIGHT FEET FROM THE BRICK WALL TO THE COLUMN, I CAN MOVE THAT COLUMN FORWARD THOUGH, WITHOUT MOVING THE BUILDING ON THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THE SETBACK, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE MAIN MASS OF THE BUILDING.
IT WOULD JUST BE BRINGING THIS OUT ONE.
AND I KNOW IT BLOWERS THE ROOF PITCH THERE SO I CAN KEEP, ARE YOU SAYING, I MEAN, BUILDING THEIR COLUMNS OUT AND IF IT OKAY.
IF THIS, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THE MAIN HOUSE, PUSH THAT PORCH DIRECTION, AND THEN WITH IT, LET'S SEE AN ISSUE WITH THE SITE PLAN.
HOW ABOUT THAT? WHEN I, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT, UH, WAS THERE ANY SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE LANDSCAPE? NO, THAT STAFF COMMENT WOULD, UH, COMMENTS WITH THE LANDSCAPE, THE LAST COMMENT, UH, JUST THE DRIVEWAY, NOT BEING A DRIVEWAY, BEING A WALKWAY AND, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT THE BRICK BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE LOCALLY, LOCALLY SOURCED OR RECLAIMED ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THE TREE ROOM FOR ME IS REQUIRED.
AND WE STILL HAVE JUST SAY CONCRETE PATIO SEMANTIC IN TERMS OF THAT, CORRECT, BECAUSE WE CANNOT ENCOURAGE VEHICULAR IMPACT AGAINST THE HUMAN WALKWAY WITHOUT I JUST THINK IT MAKES SENSE.
THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT WHOLE AREA AND HOW IT WORKED OUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO CHANGE.
SO LOCALLY SOURCED OR RECLAIMED AND LOCALLY SOURCED.
SO IT HAS BEEN WITHIN, I BELIEVE IT'S A HUNDRED MILE RADIUS OR SOMETHING IS WHAT IS, UM, IS DEFINED AS, AS LOCALLY SOURCED BY ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
I CANNOT SOURCE THAT EXACT STATEMENT.
UM, WE'VE HAD BRETT COME IN FROM AUGUSTA EDISTO AND, UM, MOST POPULARLY IS THE SAVANNAH GRAY THAT COMES THROUGH.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF RE HMM.
UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN ALL ACCEPTABLE SOURCE BRICK, UM, BENEFITS GETTING PAINTED SPECIFICALLY THE WALL MATERIAL, CALLS THAT OUT AS A CHALLENGE WITH THE BRICK SIDING.
IT IS ONLY PERMITTED IF IT IS A RECYCLED RECLAIMED OR LOCALLY SOURCED MATERIAL.
SO, UM, IT'S ALSO A 5 15, 6 G REQUIREMENT.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR EMOTION HERE TO MAKE A MOTION HERE.
I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, ALL THE STAFF
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COMMENTS MAKE SENSE.I CAN'T REALLY REMEMBER WHAT WE DETERMINED WITH THE WINDOWS FOR THE LEFT ELEVATION.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, DEVIATED EVERYTHING ELSE WAS, UM, STRAIGHT FORWARD.
SO WE'RE NOT MAKING EMOTION RIGHT NOW, SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
SO I GUESS WHAT THE POINT IS IS THAT YOU COULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, THAT ONE SIDE NEEDS TO BE BREAST SO THAT A, B OR C SEES IT.
SHE SAID THREE TO FOUR, THREE.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO THREE? WELL, HOW MANY ARE THERE, ARE THERE, I GUESS A MOTION CAN BE MADE BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A JURY THREE DIFFERENT SIZES, CERTAIN ELEVATION, ELEVATION THAT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMITTEE.
SO NOW THEREFORE WE'RE LOOKING FOR EMOTION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION, UM, WITH ALL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WITH THE CAVEAT OF NUMBER NINE, UM, TO REVISE THE SIDE ELEVATIONS, UM, AS DISCUSSED TO BE REVIEWED BY HPRC AND, UH, SECOND, SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO.
SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THAT WHAT HPRC MEETS THREE MONDAY, MONDAYS.
AND THAT WAS, THAT IS ALL THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.
THERE ARE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS, ALL THAT SIGN DISCUSSION.
SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MOTION IN THAT MOTION FOR THIS EVENING IS WHAT I MOTION WE ADJOURN.
AND COULD I GET A SECOND TIME AND CAN I GET TO ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.