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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAVER COUNTY NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER IT IS THURSDAY, JANUARY 6TH.
UM, WHO'S TO ENROLL CALLED BREE OR HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.
AND ALL ARE ALL ARE HERE THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEE.
NEXT TO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, MR. STACY, IS THERE ANYTHING EXTRA, A DELETED ADDITION THAT NEEDS TO GO HOME? OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS YOU'LL SEE IT I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING IN 19 ON A DIFFERENT, UM, APPLICANT AND CAROL AND AMANDA Y'ALL WEREN'T HERE.
SO Y'ALL DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS.
UM, BUT THERE ARE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING.
AND PLEASE KNOW, CAUSE I STARTED DOING EDITS.
THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY WHOSE LAST NAME WAS FRASER AND WE HAVE A COUNCILMAN WHOSE LAST NAME IS FRAZIER.
SO FRASER WAS SIMON AND THEN YOU COULD CALL FRED FRED OR FRAZIER.
SO IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES ON THAT FROM YOUR MEMORY, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE MINUTES, SARAH SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION THOSE THAT WERE PRESENT AT THAT MEETING CAN VOTE ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHO DIDN'T VOTE.
WHO WAS NOT HERE? AMANDA HARRELL BOROUGH.
WERE YOU SITTING HERE? LARRY? OKAY.
PRESENTATIONS, PROBABLY WHAT YOU ARE ALL HERE FOR.
UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY GOOD WITH SO MANY NEW RESIDENTS THAT HAVE MOVED HERE AND ALSO FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO GET AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE ACTUALLY DOES AND HOW IT SERVES THE TOWN.
AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND, AND FUTURE AMENDMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
SO WE CAN ALL GET A HANDLE ON IT.
WE WILL GO DOWN TO NEW BUSINESS.
THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THIS IS MORE OF A PRESENTATION TIME.
SO KEVIN, GOOD MORNING, REAL QUICK, A WAY THAT WE CAN SEE THINGS IT SHOULD POP UP OR THE SCREEN'S GOING TO POP UP.
YES, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON YOU.
YOU CAN'T OR YOU CONTAINING INTERIM.
ARE YOU GOOD ON THIS? WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THAT.
WELL, UM, GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, AS, UH, MARISOL CO STATED, UH, WHEN GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.
UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
SO, UM, IT WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED, UM, AS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, UH, BACK IN 2008, UH, IT WAS RE-ESTABLISHED AS THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE FOR TOWN COUNCIL BY A RESOLUTION IN 2010.
AND THEN, UM, THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING AT THAT POINT WAS 2011.
UM, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP WAS REVISED BY TOWN COUNCIL 2019.
UM, AS WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH HERE'S EVERYONE THAT IS ON THE COMMITTEE.
UH, SO THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO NEGOTIATE A PLATFORM, UH, FOR THE TOWN APPLICANTS, PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, REPRESENTATIVES TO RATIONALLY DISCUSS AND DEFINE PROPOSALS TERMS COMMITMENTS AS THEY RELATE TO THE TOWN STANDARDS GOALS FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, FORUM OUTSIDE IN A, UH, MORE FORMAL MEETINGS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE MORE FORMAL MEETINGS OF PLANNING, COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL, AS YOU STATED, UM, THIS BODY WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UH, IT IS NOT THE FINAL ACTION.
SO THAT'S ALSO FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, NOT, UM, SO ALL APPLICATIONS, UH, NEED NOT BE REFERRED TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, THOSE ARE THE TOWN COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR FIND A SIGNIFICANTLY COMPLEX SIZE OR IMPACT THEY MAY BE.
SO, UH, PROCEDURALLY A TOWN COUNCIL REFER APPLICATIONS TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, UH, FOR A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEN GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY TO TELL COUNCIL.
UM, SO THE COMMITTEE IS TASKED WITH THE REVISING, ARRIVING AT A CONSENSUS AND PROVIDING A VALID REPRESENTATION OF THE APPLICANTS COMMITMENTS TO THE PROJECT.
UM, TOWN STAFF WILL THEN PROVIDE THOSE FINDINGS AS THE RESULT OF THE COMMITTEE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS ULTIMATELY TO TOWN COUNCIL.
SO, UH, THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH IS THAT TOWN COUNCIL REFERRAL REQUESTS TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, UH, APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED.
UH, WE HOLD A MEETING FROM THERE.
WE CAN HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION
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WORKSHOP IF NECESSARY PLANNING, COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION.AND THEN FIRST, SECOND READINGS WITH ALSO TOWN COUNCIL HOLDING THAT SECOND READING AS A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FOR THIS AFTERNOON, EXCUSE ME FOR THIS MORNING.
UM, THE CONDUCT OF THE MEETING, UH, AS WE STATED, AND IT'S AS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA IS THAT WE PRESENT THE MATTER TO BE HEARD, UH, THE PRESENTATION OF STAFF, UH, PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UH, ANY STAFF REMARKS, UM, THE COMMITTEE, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, UH, KIND OF A BACK AND FORTH DIALOGUE, UH, AT THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK FROM THERE ANY FINAL REMARKS FROM STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, IF NECESSARY, YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, CONCERNS ISSUES FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, AND THEN CAN GET GUIDANCE FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
UH, FROM THERE, WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND EMOTION DISCUSSION, AND THEN VOTE BY THE COMMITTEE.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
BUT, UM, THE, ONE OF THE PAST NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE HAD WAS FOR VILLAGE OF HER DEER, UH, WHERE THEY CAME IN FOR AN AMENDMENT, IT WAS A NEGOTIATED WHERE THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN DWELLING UNITS INCREASE IN, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN SOME CIVIC ISSUES, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, UH, THAT, UH, THERE WAS A NEGOTIATION, UM, FOR A PAYMENT OF $184,000 IN FEES, UM, UH, IN ARREARS VIA THE RE UH, REPROGRAMMING WITH FUNDS ESCALATED BY THE TOWN.
UM, THERE WAS, UH, REPROGRAM THE REMAINING EIGHT YEARS OF THE FEE IN LIEU TAXES.
UH, THERE WAS A DONATION OF RIGHT AWAY, UH, ALONG ONE 70, UM, THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE FUTURE ACCESS TO THE REGIONAL PARK, UM, THAT THERE WAS REPROGRAMMING OF, UH, ACREAGE IN THAT PARCEL D BY REMOVING 23 DWELLING UNITS, UH, DONATION OF 83 UNITS, UM, FROM THEIR ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BANK, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH IN A FEW MINUTES AND THEN THEY'D CONTRIBUTE $50,000 TOWARDS THEIR PRO-RATA SHARE FOR A FUTURE SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION ALSO THAT THEY WOULD DONATE, UM, UPON THE TIME NEEDED NOT TO EXCEED ONE AND A HALF ACRES OF LAND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTI-STORY CIVIC BUILDING, UH, THAT THE ALLOCATED 5% OF THEIR TOTAL 404 DWELLING UNITS AS WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ADHERE TO THE CURRENT TOWN OF BLUFFTON UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ELEMENTS.
UM, FROM, I JUST PROVIDED A COUPLE OF MAPS HERE FOR YOU JUST AS A REFERENCE POINT.
UM, THIS IS OUR GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP THAT WE USE WHEN ANYTIME WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT FOR CONCENTRATIONS, MAINLY OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, WE DO HAVE, UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, UM, THAT'S THE, UM, THAT IS THE BIG HOUSE TRACK AND SEND MARINA RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS PART OF THAT VILLAGE TYPE ZONING MAP.
UH, THE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE LIGHT GREEN ARE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS OF THE NINE.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE FIVE OF THEM DO HAVE OF THE NINE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
FIVE OF THEM HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
UH, HERE ARE THE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ASSOCIATED, UH, EXCUSE ME, SEVEN.
UM, NOW THE NUMBERS HERE ARE FROM DECEMBER 31ST, 2020.
UM, WE DO HAVE UPDATED NUMBERS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO TOWN COUNCIL AT THEIR JANUARY MEETING.
AND WE WILL THEN UPDATE THIS MAP ACCORDINGLY.
THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA AS TO ALL OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR CURRENT BUILD-OUT AGAIN, AS OF DECEMBER, 2020, THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BANK.
UH, SO THAT WAS ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UH, BACK IN 2007, UM, IT PROVIDES A WAY TO, UM, FOR THE TOWN TO HOLD DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, OR THIRD PARTY OWNED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IF NECESSARY, UM, TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UH, HELD IN THE BANK, DO NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC MONETARY VALUE, UM, ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, IF THEY ARE, IF THEY ARE MOVING BETWEEN A PRIVATE OWNER TO A PRIVATE OWNER, UM, WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT WE DON'T APPROVE THAT.
UM, AND WE, THAT IS A PRIVATE MATTER.
WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, UH, HOW MUCH SOMEONE WOULD PAY FOR THOSE UNITS.
UM, BUT IN HERE, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE HAVE NO MONETARY VALUE, UH, AND THEN AGAIN, EACH REQUEST, UM, TO ACQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UH, IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WOULD COME IN FRONT OF YOU AS THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, CURRENT HOLDINGS, AS YOU CAN SEE FOR A BUCK, WALTER SCHULTZ, AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 1084 AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ACREAGE AVAILABLE.
JUST SO EVERYONE'S CLEAR, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF THE BOOKS THAT WERE IN PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE REMOVED.
AT THIS POINT I HAVE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU JUST A
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QUICK, UH, OVERVIEW, UM, OF, OF YOUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE ON ANY OF THIS? GREAT.NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE, UM, UNDER PRESENTATIONS NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE PALMETTO BLUFF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENTS OVERVIEW, PROBABLY WHILE YOU'RE PULLING THAT UP.
KEVIN, THIS ALSO HAS BEEN POSTED ON OUR AGENDA SITE.
YOU, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND WATCHING CAN GO TO TOWN OF BLUFFTON.SC.GOV AND GO TO THE AGENDA CENTER AND THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
YOU ALSO CAN SEARCH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, AND IT'LL TAKE YOU TO A PAGE THAT HAS ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, UM, IN LINKS OF AMENDMENTS.
AND EVERYONE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND, UM, PULL IT UP.
IF THERE ARE AMENDMENTS, I WOULD URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THEY ADDRESS THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND ARE ALSO BY LAW, LEGAL BY LAW.
AS WE PULLED UP THIS PRESENTATION, I DIDN'T HAVE IT PULLED UP AUTOMATICALLY.
SO, UH, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF PALMETTO BLUFF ITSELF, UH, THE, UH, ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN.
SO, UH, ORIGINALLY PALMETTO BLUFF WAS ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN IN 1998, WHICH HAD CONSISTED OF THE 21,749 ACRES, UH, BY VARIOUS ORDINANCES THAT ARE LISTED HERE ON THE PAGE.
I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM IF YOU WANT TO.
UM, BUT, UM, AS PART OF THE APPLICANTS PLANNING PROCESS, AND THEN FOR THE NEXT PHASE IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR THIS AFTERNOON, UM, WHICH, UM, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PALMETTO BLUFF, IT SAYS INCLUDING THE EXPANSION OF THE BIG HOUSE, UH, WATER ACCESS POINT, WHICH WE COMMONLY KNOWN AS ANSON MARINA, AND THEY'VE REQUESTED THE AMENDMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THAT DRY STACK STORAGE AND DOCK SIDE FUELING HERE IS A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN, UH, WHICH DID SHOW ALL OF THE WATER ACCESS POINTS, UH, SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT THEN AT, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN BARELY SEE THE YEAH, DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM HERE IS WHERE THE BIG HOUSE IS LOCATED.
SO THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WAS IN 2004.
UM, AND THAT WAS, UM, THE NEW RIVERSIDE PUD WAS CREATED BY TAKING A PORTION OF PALMETTO BLUFF AND A PORTION OF JONES ESTATE CUTTING OFF THOSE PIECES AND THEN MERGING THEM TOGETHER TO CREATE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, UH, YEAH, THE NEW RIVERSIDE PUD.
SO WHEN THOSE TWO ORIGINAL P UDS WERE IN PLACE TO CREATE THAT NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD VARIOUS, UM, TOTAL ACREAGE FOR BOTH JOHN'S ESTATE AND PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, THERE WAS TRANSFERS, UH, FOR BOTH OF THEM TO CREATE THAT NEW, NEW RIVERSIDE PUD.
UH, THERE WAS AN EXTINGUISHMENT OF 80 DWELLING UNITS FROM PALMETTO BLUFF.
UH, THERE WAS CONVERSION OF, UH, 40 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL TO 160 DWELLING UNITS.
AND THEN FROM THERE, THE NEW CREATED PUD OF NEW RIVERSIDE HAD THE 4,000 TOTAL ACRES, 4,700 RD USE 9, 1 90 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND 200 ACRES OF, UH, BUSINESS PARK.
AND THEN FROM THERE YOU HAVE, THEN THE REVISED JONES ESTATE PUD, AND THEN THE REVISED PALMETTO BLUFF.
THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE NEWER SIDE PUD.
THERE'S A BLUE LINE THAT KIND OF RUNS RIGHT THROUGH HERE.
THAT WAS THE DIVIDING LINE, UM, TO THE RIGHT WAS PALMETTO BLUFF TO THE LEFT.
WHAT WAS JONES ESTATE? I CAN STAY ON THAT JUST, JUST FOR EVERYONE THAT MAIN ROAD.
SO, UM, TO THE NORTH, THAT WOULD BE, UM, 46, UM, THE SQUIGGLY LINE THAT KIND OF RUNS THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, UH, THAT IS A NEW RIVER SIDE, UM, DRIVE.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE HERE, IT'S BLANKED OUT AREA THAT'S, UM, OLD PALMETTO BLUFF ROAD.
AND THEN THE ENTRANCE TO PALMETTO BLUFF IS APPROXIMATELY RIGHT HERE.
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UM, IN 2005, THERE WAS A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT ALL FOR BATIM, BUT IT, IT CAME TO BE WHERE THERE WAS A RESTRICTION ON THE NEW RIVER ACCESS, UH, WITH THE, IT INCLUDED AN EXPANSION TO THE BIG HOUSE AND WHAT IT DID WAS IT, UM, IT CREATED A RESTRICTION THAT A NUMBER OF SLIPS NOT TO EXCEED 10% OF TOTAL CUMULATIVE NUMBER OF, UH, APPROVED, UM, DEVELOPMENT UNITS IN PALMETTO BLUFF, UH, COULD GO TOWARDS, UH, WET SLIPS FOR THE MARINA, UH, WITH THAT IN THE FIRST PHASE.UM, ANY, ANY CONSTRUCTION THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THE FIRST PHASE OF UP TO THE 50 WET SLIPS, UM, AS WELL AS AREAS UTILIZED BY THE TRANSIENT KAYAKS AND OTHER VESSELS.
UM, AND THEN AS THEY EXPANDED ON THAT TOTAL NUMBER, WHICH AGAIN, CURRENTLY PALMETTO BLUFF IS AT 4,000 ALLOWED DWELLING UNITS, 10%, WHICH IS 400.
UM, THEY HAVE A, AN APPROVED D HECK, UM, MARINA PERMIT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THEY COULD GO OUT AND CONSTRUCT THE MARINA RIGHT NOW IN THAT FIRST PHASE OF 50 SLIPS.
UM, AND THEN WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT AS THEY, AS THEY EXPAND, THEY HAVE TO EXPAND WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, AND IT'S JUST FOR THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I NOTICED IN THE PACKAGE, THERE WAS A LETTER DATED FROM DA DATED, JULY 23RD, 2014.
THAT'S UH, SAID IT EXPIRES OCTOBER 10TH, 2020.
THEY HAVE SINCE RECEIVED AN EXTENSION, UM, FOR THAT APPROVAL.
AND WHAT'S THE EXTENSION TO, I BELIEVE IT IS UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR.
IT WAS FURTHER DOWN IN THE PACKET AT THE VERY END.
UM, IT WAS, IT WAS JUNE OF 2022, AND THEN IT WAS EXTENDED TO DECEMBER OF 20.
AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER DATE I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THAT I GUESS A COMPLETION DATE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN DATE TOO.
I THOUGHT I SAW THAT IN THE PACKET, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS IT WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
UM, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ITEMS, UM, THAT DON'T NECESSARILY PERTAIN TO, UM, THIS MORNING'S REQUEST, BUT, UH, THERE WAS A DONATION OF 42 ACRES FOR A PARK.
UM, THERE, THEY ESTABLISHED THE $900 MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DEVELOPMENT FEE, UH, FOR ALL THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS ASSOCIATED WITH NEW RIVERSIDE, EXCEPT FOR HERITAGE AT NEW RIVERSIDE.
UH, AND IT WAS SET TO EXPIRE, UH, SEVEN YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THAT SECOND, UM, AGREEMENT IN 2009, THERE WAS A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH CORRECTED THE ACREAGE FROM THE 42 ACRES TO THE 43.84.
UM, AND THEN IT, UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THEY REMOVE THE OBLIGATION FOR THE TOWN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE PARK WITHIN THREE YEARS OF ACQUIRING THE LAND, REMOVE THE OBLIGATION OF PALMETTO BLUFF TO DENOTE, UH, DONATE THE $50,000 FOR DESIGN AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SINCE THE DONATION OF ACREAGE WAS LARGER THAN PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED, UM, OR PREVIOUSLY SET, UH, AND THAT KIND OF OFFSET, UM, THE, THE COST THERE, UH, WITH THAT ALSO, UH, THE FOURTH ONE WAS THAT, UM, THE TOWN CONDITIONALLY WAVERED, UM, THE DEFAULT UPON A BLUFF AT THAT TIME, AS THEY WERE COMING OUT OF CHAPTER 11, THEN WE HAD AN AMENDMENT TO THE SECOND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT.
SO AN AMENDMENT TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT, AND THAT WAS IN 2012 AND THEN EX UH, EXTENDED THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THAT, UH, MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DEVELOPMENT FEE.
UM, AND SO THAT WAY, UM, THE PAYMENT OF UNCOLLECTED FEES AS EXPIRATION DATE WAS THEN SET FOR 15 YEARS AND YEARS FROM WHEN IS THAT EXPRESSION? DO YOU HAVE THAT, OR IS THAT FROM THE 2012? UH, 20, 27? IS THAT DEPRESSION WITH THAT? OKAY.
THEN WE HAD THE FOURTH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT AND THE FIRST CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THAT WAS IN 2012.
AND THAT WAS THE DONATION OF SIX ACREAGE, UH, SIX ACRES TO THE TOWN, UH, WITHIN THE NEW RIVERSIDE, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR STORMWATER PILOT PROJECT, UH, THAT'S LOCATED OFF OF OLD PALMETTO BLUFF ROAD.
UM, THERE WAS A DEPOSIT OF, UM, RD USE TO THE TOWN'S DEVELOPMENT, UM, RIGHTS BANK, UH, FOR A FUTURE TRANSFER.
UM, THE TRANSFER OF THE HUNDRED, EXCUSE ME, 1080 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO PALMETTO BLUFF WOULD THEN BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, UH, THAT WASN'T REQUIRED TO GO BACK IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION OR TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, THIS IS JUST A COPY OF THAT, UM, THAT WE CALL IT THE CLOUD OF THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND JUST
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HOW THEY TRANSFERRED FROM ONE LOCATION INTO THE CLOUD AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO OTHER LOCATIONS.SO WE HAVE THAT, UM, THAT NEW RIVERSIDE PUD, UH, WE HAD THE TRANSFER OF UNITS, UH, BACK AND FORTH, I WOULD SAY BREED DID A GREAT JOB OF, OF, UH, CLARIFYING THIS TO MAKE SURE WE TRULY UNDERSTOOD, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE WE STAND.
UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FOR PALMETTO BLUFF, THAT TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE 19,217 4,000 DWELLING UNITS, AND WHAT WE DID IN RED IS JUST TO SHOW YOU KIND OF SNAPSHOT AS OF TODAY.
SO AS OF TODAY, 1,607 RD USE HAVE BEEN UTILIZED.
NOW, WHEN WE SAY UTILIZE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ALL HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
THOSE MEAN, THAT MEANS THAT LOTS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH A SUBDIVISION, UH, FIVE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL HAVE BEEN UTILIZED, AND THEN THEY STILL HAVE THE 175.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE FOR NEW RIVERSIDE PUD AND THEN 2016, THERE WAS AN ADDENDUM TO THAT, TO NEW RIVERSIDE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, WHICH TRANSFERRED, UM, THE 1080 UNITS THAT WERE DEPOSITED IN THE BANK BACK INTO PALMETTO BLUFF.
AND THAT WAS PICKED UP, UM, ON THE CONCEPT PLAN GRID.
YOU CAN'T READ THE TEXT THAT'S ON THERE, IT'S THE HORIZONTAL LINES IN THE AREA TO THE LEFT.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS PICKED UP IN THE TEXT OF THAT TRANSFER, SO THAT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH PALMETTO BLUFF.
NOW CHECK AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS COMMITTEE.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS? ANY FURTHER INFORMATION YOU MAY WANT ON THIS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK EVEN POST ME.
UM, THE 10% OF THE R D USE, UH, AND THE NUMBER OF SLIPS YOU SAID WOULD BE 400.
IS THAT, IS THAT LOCATED AT, AT ONE LOCATION? YES, SIR.
THAT IS SPECIFICALLY AT THE BIG HOUSE HOUSE, AUNTS AND MARINA.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION REALLY FOR WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS, BECAUSE, UM, YOU'VE SAID IN A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING ABOUT TO GO OVER THAT IT IS A 10% AND, AND OF THE UNITS, BUT AT THE TIME ON AMENDMENT TWO, THERE WERE FAR LESS UNITS ON THE BOOKS.
SO WAS THAT, UH, ERROR KIND OF BACK THEN THAT THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SAID OF THE CURRENT RD USE? I MEAN, I'M GUESS I'M JUST ASKING.
AND NONE OF US REALLY WERE HERE DOING THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE 10% EQUATES TO WHATEVER THE RD USE ARE AT ANY TIME.
BUT TO ME IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE TIME OF THAT AMENDMENT, BUT I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO READ IT TO TERRY FOR THIS ONE TOO.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND HISTORICALLY, LOOK AT THAT.
I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD FOR US TO KNOW.
AND, AND AS A HOPE PEOPLE ARE SEEING THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE, ARE A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE, AND IT'S SEEING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE REAL WORLD CIRCUMSTANCES ARE TODAY AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE IN 1999.
AND WE'D ALL KNOW A LOT HAS CHANGED, BUT, UM, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH US KNOWING.
AND IF NOT, WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL.
THEN CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT? I DIDN'T TRY TO SPEAK IN HERE TOO, AND I'M DOING BAD AS WELL.
SO AMANDA WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO BACK TO THAT AMENDMENT TO YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
SO AT A SLIDE TO THAT, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, YOU'LL SEE WHEN ALL THAT TOOK PLACE.
UM, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A MOMENT IN TIME THAT PALMETTO BLUFFS UNITS WERE 29 20, RIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'D READ ON THE PACKET.
AND IF ANYONE FROM THE BACK CANNOT HEAR US, PLEASE KIND OF DO THIS BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO KIND OF REMEMBER TO LEAN DOWN INTO THE MICROPHONE.
JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU CAN'T HEAR JOE, I'M LIKE COUNT ON YOU.
MAY I HAVE A QUESTION? OH YES.
THE, YOU MENTIONED THAT D HECK APPROVAL, UM, FOR THE BIG HOUSE IS, IS AN ESTABLISHED TILL DECEMBER OF 2022.
DOES THAT INCLUDE THE 50 SLIPS OR 400 SLIPS? THAT INCLUDES UP TO 177.
I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER SEVENTY, A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN SLIPS.
UM, ANYTHING, ANYTHING BEYOND THAT? THEY THEN HAVE TO EITHER AMEND OR GET A NEW D HECK APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL SLIPS.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR UP TO THE 400 UNITS, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT.
THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ARMY CORPS.
THAT'S SORT OF MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, IS ARMY CORPS APPROVED THOSE AS WELL? YES.
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170.UM, SO FOR THE ONE 70 IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THEN UP TO THE 400, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EITHER AMEND THE EXISTING PERMIT, OR THEN THEY HAVE TO GET A NEW PERMIT EITHER WAY.
THEY HAVE TO GET IT APPROVED BY THOSE TWO GROUPS.
IT TRUMPS WHATEVER OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYS.
IF THEY SAY, NO, THEY CAN'T FALL, NO ONE CAN FALL BACK TO WHAT A TOWN AGREEMENT DID.
AND IT WAS IN DEEP INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND IF YOU EVER HAD A SLEEPLESS NIGHT, YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE IT'S IN PHASES.
SO IT'S LIKE 50 ODD NUMBERS ALL THE WAY UP TO 170 SOMETHING.
AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A COPY AND ONE OF THE LINKS PROVIDED OF THAT PERMIT AND IT SHOWS KIND OF THE DESIGN OF THOSE SLIPS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU WANT? WOULD YOU LIKE HIM TO PULL THAT UP? IT'S OKAY.
UM, SO LET'S JUST KIND OF PLAN FOR THE DAY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S MOVING ALONG AND THE QUESTIONS ARE ALL VERY GOOD.
THE NEW BUSINESS WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY, UM, AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR SO MANY PEOPLE WHO CAME THAT WANTED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'RE GOING TO AT LEAST GET TO F M MAYBE G UM, TO SEE WHERE IT GOES BECAUSE, UM, WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE OTHER THINGS IN OUR WORLDS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAY HERE UNTIL THREE OR FOUR.
SO IT MOST LIKELY, MOST DEFINITELY WILL BE A FOLLOW-UP, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M THINKING WE'LL GET TO, CAUSE I DO WANT, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE MADE TODAY.
SO THE, THE, THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, UM, IS FOR THAT NOW FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO, TWO ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WHEN THIS GOES IN FRONT OF TOWN COUNCIL, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO AGENDA ITEMS AND THEY MAKE TWO DIFFERENT VOTES CAUSE YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN ALSO ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO, UH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU HERE IN JUST A SECOND, UM, THAT THE REQUEST IS FOR THAT SECOND DRY STACK STORAGE AND THEN THE, AS WE CALL IT DOCKSIDE FUELING.
SO AGAIN, FIFTH AMENDMENT, UM, TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, SOME QUICK BACKGROUND, UM, MARCH OF LAST YEAR NOW, UM, PALMETTO BLUFF DID SUBMIT AN APPLICATION PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN, AND THEN RESTATING, UH, ON THEIR, UM, DECLARATION OF COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, UM, FOR THE PALMETTO BLUFF DOCS.
UM, IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A WORKSHOP.
UH, THERE WERE NUMEROUS QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, UH, REGARDING THE APPLICATION.
AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS HERE IN A MINUTE.
SO THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, THE, THE MINDSET THAT THEY HAD.
UH, THE APPLICANT THEN MADE CORRECTIONS TO THEIR APPLICATION, WHERE THEY, UM, REDUCE DOWN A LOT OF THE, UH, LANGUAGE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
AND THEN THEY, UM, CONDENSED IT DOWN TO, AGAIN THAT ALLOW FOR DRY STACK STORAGE AND DOCKSIDE FUELING.
SO HERE'S A COPY OF THE CURRENTLY APPROVED CONCEPT MASTER PLAN.
AGAIN, EVERYONE'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, WHERE DOES CALL OUT FOR THAT, UM, WATER ACCESS AT BIG HOUSE.
SO DRY STACK STORAGE, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE MEAN BY DRY STACK STORAGE.
THIS IS, UM, WILSON'S LANDING.
UH, THIS IS THE, IF YOU'RE ON THE RIVER, UH, LOOKING TOWARDS TRI-STATE STORAGE, UH, THIS IS THE SIDE THAT YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU WERE ON THE LAKE SIDE, UM, OR THE WEST SIDE, UH, THIS IS THE SIDE THAT YOU WOULD SEE.
AND THEN FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE DOCK IS LOCATED, WHERE THE FORKLIFTS, UH, TAKE THE BOATS FROM DRY STACK AND THEN TAKE THEM OUT TO THE WATER AND THEY'RE PLACED AND THEN PICKED BACK UP RIGHT THERE.
UM, YOU SEE THE SLIPS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MORE TRANSIENT SLIPS, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, AS MULTIPLE PEOPLE REQUEST THEIR BOAT, UH, THEY'LL TAKE THE BOATS OUT INTO THE WATER, MOVE THEM OVER INTO ONE OF THE SLIPS.
UH, AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL COM YOU KNOW, GET IN THEIR BOAT, HAVE FUN, GO BACK AND THEN DROP IT OFF.
UM, SO THIS IS THE SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, WHERE IT REFERS TO THE THREE WATER ACCESS POINTS.
UM, AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT TWO OF THESE ACCESSES MUST BE SITED AT THE EXISTING ACCESS IS KNOWN AS LODGE
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AND BIG HOUSE, DRY STACKS, UH, FACILITIES SHALL BE LOCATED AT ONLY ONE THAT'S THE EXISTING LANGUAGE AND RED, UM, OF THESE ACCESSES.SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING INSTEAD OF ONE, TWO EXCESSES, AND THEN FUELING FACILITIES SHALL BE ALLOWED AT THE ACCESSES.
BUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BIG HOUSE, EXCESS POINT, THERE SHALL BE NO DISPENSING OF FUEL EITHER AT DOCKS OR WITHIN BUFFERS OR SETBACKS.
SO CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY AT WILSON VILLAGE, THEY HAVE FUEL THAT'S THERE IT'S IT'S ON THE UPLANDS.
WHAT THEY CAN'T DO IS THEY CAN'T BRING THOSE FUEL LINES DOWN TO THE DOCK DOWN TOWARDS THE WATER.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AT BIG HOUSE, NOT AT WILSON LANDING, ONLY AT BIG HOUSE.
AND THEN SIMILARLY, SIMILAR LANGUAGE, UH, FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, AS WELL WHERE THE ALLOWING FOR THE DRY STACK STORAGE AND THEN THE FUELING FACILITIES, UM, WITH BIG HOUSE BEING THAT EXCEPTION TO ALLOW FOR THAT DOCK SIDE FUELING DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WORKSHOP, UH, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AND WE WERE ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO, TO, TO ANSWER THOSE.
I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE RATHER RATHER QUICKLY.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS LIKE, WELL, HOW BIG, HOW BIG IS THIS DRY STACK STORAGE FACILITY? WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING? AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE NOT DESIGNED IT BECAUSE THAT COSTS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO DO.
AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT UNTIL THEY HAVE THE APPROVAL TO DO IT.
SO THE QUESTION COMES UP, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE DON'T KNOW YET.
SO WE'RE JUST USING SPECULATION OF SQUARE FOOTAGES AT THE, UH, AT THIS TIME.
SO APPROXIMATELY 35,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR THE BUILDING AND ADDITIONAL SPACE, UH, FOR THE FORK LIFT TO BE ABLE TO MANEUVER, UM, THE PRECISE, PRECISE NUMBERS UNKNOWN, BUT APPROXIMATELY 180 TO TWO 50, UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING WOULD NOT EXCEED 50 FEET.
UM, AND THAT'D BE ALLOWED FOR THEM TO STACK UP TO FOUR, FOUR BOATS.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THE CURRENT DRY STACK IS? BECAUSE IT'S ONLY THREE HIGH? I DO NOT KNOW.
UM, I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT, UM, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO HOLD, HOLD THAT QUESTION FOR THEM.
UM, WHEN THEY PRESENT REQUIREMENT OF OUR TOWN, IT HAS TO BE, IT CAN'T BE ABOVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT, NO MATTER.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK FOR PERSPECTIVE, FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN SCALE, RIGHT.
THE SAME ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE CURRENT DRY SACK.
SO HEIGHT OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR US TO HAVE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF DISCUSSING DRY DOG.
ANYTHING ELSE? NOW HE TOOK A BREAK AND HE'S WRITING, UM, ALSO LIKE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S THE FUEL STORAGE CAPACITY OF THE CURRENT JOYSTICK.
WHAT'S THE FUEL STORAGE CAPACITY AT THE CURRENT.
IT WILL SOME MILLAGE, BUT, OKAY.
SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DOES DRY STACK STORAGE EQUATE, UM, IN SQUARE FOOTAGE AND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS? SO WITH PALMETTO BLUFF, IT'S DESIGNED THROUGH ACREAGE.
SO THEY WOULD BE BASED ON TOTAL ACREAGE AS OPPOSED TO A TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO THAT TOTAL ACREAGE IS HOW MUCH LAND DOES IT TAKE THEM TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE SITE.
UH, AND THEN FOR THE MIXED USE VILLAGE AREA AND ISLANDS IN AND AROUND ANSON MARINA IS ANTICIPATED TO, UH, DEVELOP AS THE CURRENT PHASE TWO MASTER PLAN.
AND I'LL SHOW THAT, OKAY, SO THIS IS THE CURRENT, UM, PHASE TWO MASTER PLAN FOR I'M GOING TO BLUFF, AND I'M GONNA HAVE A BIGGER IMAGE HERE IN JUST A SECOND FOR YOU.
SO KIND OF WHAT'S ANTICIPATED, UM, FOR THAT TOTAL TOTAL AREA OF PHASE TWO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT'S OVER, UM, ALMOST 900 DWELLING UNITS AND 80 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, HOPEFULLY THIS CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHERE YOU CAN SEE, AND I'LL START ON THIS SIDE.
UH, THEY'RE ALLOWED UP TO 32 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, ZERO COMMERCIAL ISLAND COMPOUND, WHICH IS OFF OF THE BIG HOUSE WOULD ALLOW FOR THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, ZERO COMMERCIAL, AND THEN FURTHER INLAND THE MAIN MAINLAND INLAND WOULD ALLOW FOR THE 436 DWELLING UNITS, AS WELL AS 30 ACRES ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.
AS WE MOVE OVER TO THE SIDE HERE, YOU HAVE A BIG HOUSE ISLAND, AND THAT'S WHERE THE ACTUAL MARINA WOULD BE LOCATED, UH, UP TO 2 96 AND THEN 20 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DOUGHBOY ISLAND, WHICH IS THE LIGHT GREEN HERE WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO FOUR OR EXCUSE ME, SEVEN RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, ZERO COMMERCIAL.
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THE MAINLAND PORTION HERE WOULD ALLOW FOR 125 DWELLING UNITS AND 30 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.UM, IT SHOULD BE KNOWN THAT FOR THE, ALL OF THESE WATERFRONT AREAS, THEY'RE STILL SUBJECT, WE HAVE A RIVER PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IT'S MINIMUM SETBACKS THAT ANY TYPE OF, OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO OCCUR, WHICH AS WE READ HERE, UM, IT SAYS ALONG THE WATER LINE BY INCREASING THE MINIMUM DEVELOPMENTS, UH, SETBACK AND BUFFERS FROM THE OCRM CRITICAL LINE FOR THE MAY COOPER AND NEW RIVERS FROM 50 FEET TO AN AVERAGE OF A 100 FEET WITH EACH INITIAL MASTER PLAN AND A MINIMUM OF 80 FEET ON ANY LOT IN COMMERCIAL AREAS, THE SETBACK AND BUFFERS FROM THE OCR AND CRITICAL ON SHALL BE 150 FEET.
SO WHAT ARE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THE NECESSARY PARKING FOR UPLAND USES SURROUNDING THE MARINA, UM, THE NECESSARY PARKING RELATIONSHIP, UH, RATIO FOR INDIVIDUAL SLIPS AND ANCILLARY USES WILL BE CONSIDERED AT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH THE APPLICANT DURING THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE TO DETERMINE THE NECESSARY NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT THEY WOULD NEED.
AND JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PLANS FROM A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN DO GO IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THOSE APPLICATIONS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM A CHECKS AND BALANCES STANDPOINT, IT DOES GO IN FRONT OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY, THEY TAKE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION AS THEY'RE REVIEWING THESE PLANS.
SO, UM, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED, UH, WHAT COMPONENT OF BLUE BLUFF DO RIGHT NOW.
UH, SO THEY'RE APPROVED TO CONSTRUCT THE MARINA, WHICH THAT FIRST PHASE OF THE 50 SLIPS AND UP TO THE ONE 70, UM, THEY CAN CONSTRUCT THE UPLANDS PORTION OF THE MARINA, WHICH INCLUDES PARKING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, STORMWATER STRUCTURES, UPLAND FUELING, UM, AND THEN THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THEN, UH, WITH THE ARMY CORPS AND D HECK APPROVAL, THEY COULD CONSTRUCT UP TO THE 400 WET SLIPS.
LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT SECOND AMENDMENT, UH, DO THE SPACE SPACES WITHIN THE PROPOSED DRIVE STACK STORAGE COUNT AGAINST THAT MAXIMUM 400 SLIPS.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS JUST A MINUTE AGO.
THEY DO NOT COUNT AGAINST THAT.
AND THEN WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED WELL, DRY STACK STORAGE AND DOCKSIDE FUELING, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
SO PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR NOVEMBER 1ST MEETING, UH, THEY RECOMMENDED TO DENY BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE CONCEPT OF AMENDMENT, UH, THAT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS WAS THEN FORWARDED TO TOWN COUNCIL, UM, AT OUR NOVEMBER 9TH MEETING.
AND THAT WAS VOTED, UM, TO FORWARD THIS REQUEST TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY, UH, DURING THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, UM, THERE WERE, UM, UH, VARIOUS TOPICS ISSUES THAT A TOWN COUNCIL CAME UP WITH.
UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE THE NUMBER AND SIZE OF SLIPS AND THE BOATS THAT THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT SIZES OF BOATS NEED DIFFERENT SIZE SLIPS.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD, UM, THE ANTICIPATED ADDITIONAL WATERCRAFT TRAFFIC FROM THE MARINA AND THOSE ANTICIPATED DESTINATIONS, THE SIZE CAPACITY DESIGN OF THE DRY STACK STORAGE, UM, THE CURRENT CONDITIONS MONITORING EFFORTS, UH, SURROUNDING ECOLOGY.
UM, THEY ASKED THAT THEY CONDUCT A COMMUNITY MEETING TO PRESENT THE PROPOSAL, RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE OWNERS, RESIDENTS, CITIZENS, INTERESTED PARTIES.
UH, AND THEN THEY ALSO SAID THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY PRESERVING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY FROM DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS LONG ISLAND AND OR DEVELOPMENT OF LARGER COMPOUNDS SIZED SLOTS, SUCH AS THOSE AT THE HEADWATERS.
SO YOUR ACTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, THIS MORNING IS YOU CAN, UM, FORWARD YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION, TO APPROVE THE APPLICATIONS AS SUBMITTED AS WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
YOU COULD RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THE APPLICATIONS WITH AMENDMENTS THAT ARE NEGOTIATED UPON, UM, OR YOU COULD, UH, DENY THE APP RECOMMEND DENYING THE APPLICATIONS, AND THEN JUST FORWARDING THAT TO TOWN COUNCIL PROCESS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE, UH, TAKEN THIS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION, WORKSHOP, PLANNING, COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THE TOWN COUNCIL'S FIRST READING, WHICH IS, UM, IT IS STILL OPEN.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IS AFTER TODAY POTENTIALLY HAVING A
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SECOND NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, THAT DATE IS TO BE DETERMINED.AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME FROM THAT MEETING, IF IT IS NECESSARY, UH, ANY PROPOSED CHANGES OR CONDITIONS WITHIN GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEM TO REHEAR THE REQUEST AND PROVIDE THAT REC RECOMMENDATION BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FIRST AND SECOND READING AGAIN, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS THE SECOND READING FOR TOWN COUNCIL.
QUESTIONS OF KEVIN, UM, ON HIS PRESENTATION.
AND IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS DURING THE NEXT PRESENTATION, KEVIN CAN BE OUR KEVIN, THANK YOU.
YOU ARE REPRESENTING WHAT THE TOWN OVER DECADES HAS APPROVED, RIGHT WRONG OR INDIFFERENT.
I THINK YOU GAVE A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.
MA'AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, EVERYONE? GOOD.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.
AS I SAID EARLIER, WE MOST LIKELY MOST DEFINITELY WILL HAVE A FOLLOW-UP, UH, GOT A FEW EMAILS SAYING WE DID THIS QUICK.
I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING QUICK.
WE ARE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN BE.
THE AGENDA ITEM WAS ON THE CALENDAR.
AS SOON AS WE HAD THE COMMITMENT OF THIS COMMITTEE AND IT HAD BEEN ON OUR AGENDA CALENDAR FOR WELL OVER THREE WEEKS, BUT WE NOTIFY, UM, PER THE TERMS OF OUR STATE AND OUR MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION.
SO YOU WILL NOT SEE AN ACTUAL AGENDA UNTIL THREE DAYS BEFORE A MEETING, RIGHT, TERRY, UM, WHICH WE HAVE ALWAYS ABIDED BY.
SO I HOPE Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT KEEP AN EYE ON OUR AGENDA CENTER AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN ALL MEETINGS MEET, YOU JUST WON'T SEE AN AGENDA UNTIL WE HAVE EVERYTHING SET AND PRESENTATIONS PUT TOGETHER, UM, JUST LIKE THE COUNTY.
UM, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY OPEN UP THAT AGENDA AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO PLEASE BE AWARE OF THAT FOR A FUTURE MEETING.
UM, MIKE, IF YOU'VE JUST HEARD THE PUBLIC AND RECORD, JUST SAY WHO YOU ARE PLAYING.
HI, MY NAME IS MIKE HUGHES WITH THOMPSON ENGINEERING.
UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON PALMETTO BLUFF NOW FOR 20 YEARS.
SO, UM, SINCE 2002, I'VE HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE OF SEEING THIS PROJECT EVOLVE FROM WHAT WAS, UM, BASICALLY A HUNTING CAMP ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.
SO REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE HERE REALLY, AS YOU SAID, TO DISCUSS DOCKSIDE FUELING AND DRY STACK.
UM, AND IF I CAN SEE IF I'VE GOT SOME EXHIBITS, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE EXHIBITS I DID PRESENT PREVIOUSLY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IN SUMMARY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER WAY TO PROVIDE SERVICE, TO ACCESS WATER.
UM, WITHIN BLUFFTON, THERE ARE LIMITED ACCESS POINTS WITHIN THE COUNTY, EVEN WITHIN THE AREA, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY WITHIN BLUFFTON TO GET ACCESS TO RESIDENTS, TO THE WATER.
I MEAN, THAT IS PART OF THE CULTURE THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UM, AND THIS REALLY DOES PROVIDE US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT ON THE WATER.
UM, THE DRY STACK COMPONENT REALLY IS, UH, MEANS EVEN AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN A TREND MORE TOWARDS DRY STACK AND TOWARDS PROTECTING THE BOATS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO FIND, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT WAYS TO PROVIDE BOAT SERVICE.
UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT REAL QUICK THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS ABOUT SLIP SIZES, RIGHT? SO THE PERMIT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, UM, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE DIMENSION OF SLIPS.
AND RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE THE PERMIT HAS, UM, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, WE HAVE A TWENTY-FIVE FOOT SLIPS, 35 FOOT SLIPS, 40 FOOT SLIPS, FIFTIES AND 50 FIVES.
AND SO WE HAVE EIGHT, 20 FIVES, 1230 FIVES, 49, FORTIES, 1450S, AND THEN SIX 50 FIVES.
AND THEN SIDE TIES FOR DEDICATED SLIPS.
IT DOES GO THROUGH THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF WHAT THOSE SIDE TIE SLIPS ARE.
UM, IT'S 3000 FEET AT 82 TOTAL SLIPS.
SO IT IS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED WITHIN THE, THE PERMIT.
AND I'M ASSUMING RATIO WISE, DEPENDING ON MARKET CONDITIONS, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ASSEMBLER DISTRIBUTIONS ON THOSE, UM, A QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, AND IT'S JUST FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.
CAN YOU CAN AN ENTITY DICTATE IF YOU HAVE A 55 FOOT SLIP, IS THAT A MAXIMUM OF A 55 FOOT BOAT, OR ARE, WOULD, UH, UH, APPLICANT, THIS APPLICANT ALLOW OUR A HUNDRED FOOT BOAT, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN THAT ZERO WAY TO, TO RESTRICT THAT BESIDES, HI, I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECESSARILY A WAY TO RESTRICT IT.
I THINK USUALLY YOU HAVE POWER FEEDS AND
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YOU HAVE, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE BOAT, YOU HAD DEDICATED PEDESTALS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THOSE FACILITIES, BUT IN TERMS OF, COULD YOU STACK, AND COULD YOU ASSEMBLE SMALLER BOATS ALONG THAT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RESTRICTION ON THAT.UM, IT'S A SMALLER BOAT, SO MAYBE IT'S A TEARY FINGER QUESTION LATER.
CAN WE REQUIRE NO MORE THAN A CERTAIN LENGTH OF BOAT, BUT OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS SOMETHING ON THE TABLE.
SO THE CONCERN WILL BE MORE TOO LARGE A VESSEL.
UM, IN TERMS OF OTHER THINGS TO PRESENT, ONE OF THE EXHIBITS THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE, UM, IT REALLY WAS TO IDENTIFY ORIGINALLY THE LOCATION THAT WE ARE RELATIVE TO THE STATE REGULATED, UM, SHELLFISH HARVESTING AREAS.
UM, AND REALLY ALL I WANTED TO BE TO SHOW IS THE PROXIMITY OF EXISTING EXISTING MARINAS AND HOW, WHERE WE'RE LOCATED IN TERMS OF FUELING IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY TO SENSITIVE WATERS, WE REALLY ARE PUSHED WELL AWAY FROM THOSE LOCATIONS.
AND WE SPECIFICALLY PUSHED THE DENSITY AND IT WAS IN THE SECOND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT WE LIMITED WHAT WE WERE DOING ON THE MAY RIVER AND PUSH THINGS TOWARDS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, REALLY, TO GET AWAY TO WHAT WERE THE MORE SENSITIVE WATERS, NOT THAT ALL WATER SHOULDN'T BE PROTECTED, RIGHT.
BUT THE MOST SENSITIVE WE WERE CONCERNED WITH IN TERMS OF STILL PROVIDING WATER ACCESS, BUT BEING SENSITIVE TO THE MOST CRITICAL AREAS WAS TO PUSH DENSITY DOWN TO THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF SCALE, UM, WHERE WE'RE LOCATED, WHERE IT IS RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE PLACES PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF.
UM, I THINK I ALSO HAD, UH, ON THIS ONE, UM, I THINK I HAVE MAYBE ANOTHER EXHIBIT IN HERE.
OH, YOU SEE THE DASH LINE IN TERMS OF IT'S 9.3 MILES JUST TO GET OUT TO THE CLOSEST STATE SHELLFISH HARVESTING AREA, RIGHT.
AND THERE'S A DASH LINE THAT GOES FROM THERE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY, WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THESE THINGS AND WE DID LOOK AT THEM, UM, AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT IN A SENSITIVE MANNER, UM, WHILE STILL PROVIDING SERVICE AND ACCESS AND RECREATION, UM, FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET ONTO THE WATER.
UM, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME OTHER DIAGRAMS JUST TO SHOW PROXIMITY.
UM, AND REALLY THE ROUTING AS TO SOME OF THE PLACES YOU WOULD GET.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS A CONCERN AT ONE POINT ABOUT, UM, RACCOON CREEK, WHICH IS, WAS SAID TO BE A SENSITIVE ESTUARY.
UM, AND REALLY, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE, THE WATER DIAGRAM OR I GUESS THE NAVIGABLE WATERS DIAGRAM, IT IS A LONG WAY TO ACTUALLY GET NAVIGABLE WATERS AND EVEN THE FLOW OF GLUTENS TO GET TO THAT ESTUARY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO AROUND THE POINT, UM, UP THROUGH, UM, CLOSE TO WHERE YOU WOULD CONNECT TO COOPER RIVER BACK DOWN TO GET DIRECT COON CREEK.
SO EVEN PROXIMITY WISE FROM WHERE WE'RE LOCATED AND THE FLOW OF WATER, IT IS A FAIR DISTANCE TO GET BACK TO THAT SENSITIVE ESTUARY.
I JUST, FROM A DIAGRAM STANDPOINT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE RELATIVELY WHERE WE ARE TO THAT, THAT WATERWAY.
AND SO, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE KIND OF KNOWS WHERE RACCOON CREEK IS.
IT'S JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LONG ISLAND.
SO IN TERMS OF TRAVELED WAY, IT'D BE PRETTY DISTINCT.
UM, WE JUST DID DO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU SURE.
POINT OR IF YOU CAN'T OFF THE THING, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
THE LITTLE, SO THE MARINA IS THOSE RIGHT IN HERE AND THEN RACKING CREEK BACK OVER HERE.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK SOMETHING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THERE IS A CAUSEWAY, UM, THAT ALSO ACTS AS A DAM FOR WATER PASSING IN THIS DIRECTION.
THERE'S ALSO A CAUSEWAY THAT'S HERE.
THERE IS A SMALL PIPE THAT DOES PASS THROUGH HERE.
SO WATER RIGHT NOW THROUGH A SMALL BARREL PIPE, OOPS, COULD GET BACK UP TO THAT COULD AGREE, BUT THE MASSING OF WATER WOULD HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THIS WAY.
SO IN TERMS OF PROTECTING THAT AREA, I THINK WHAT'S IN PLACE TODAY IS ACTUALLY HELPFUL IN PROTECTING.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ONLY QUESTION I DO HAVE IS MAKE SURE THIS PRESENTATION GETS TO US SO WE CAN PUT IT ON SOMETHING.
I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE IT WITH OUR PACKET AND I APOLOGIZE, THESE, THESE ARE THE SAME SLIDES WE HAD AS PART OF, UM, THE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.
UM, IN THIS DIAGRAM, ALL WE WANTED TO REPRESENT WAS ALSO THE ADDED PROTECTIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE.
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WE DO CARE ABOUT WATER QUALITY, AND WE HAVE ALWAYS CONSIDERED THESE IMPORTANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF PALMETTO BLUFF.AND SO THE YELLOW AREAS ARE PROTECTED, MANAGED FOREST OR AREAS WHERE WE'VE GOT THE RIVER ROAD PRESERVE.
UM, WE HAVE 150 FOOT RESIDENTIAL RPO D BUFFER UP IN THE HEADWATERS AREA BECAUSE WE EXTENDED THAT BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY, THOSE WATERS, UH, THE ORANGE AREA DOES REPRESENT THE MINIMUM 80 FOOT RPO D RESIDENTIAL BUFFER WITH THE AVERAGE FOR THE PROPERTY BEING A HUNDRED.
AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAVE 150 FOOT COMMERCIAL BUFFER THAT APPLIES.
SO AGAIN, WE ARE SENSITIVE TO RUNOFF, WE'RE SENSITIVE TO WORK QUALITY PROTECTION.
THESE ARE NOT THINGS WE TAKE LIGHTLY, AND IT IS A PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE PROPERTIES.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALSO, IT JUST PROTECTED LANDS WITHIN PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, PART OF THE ARE PROTECTED WETLANDS THROUGH WETLAND COVENANTS, AND PART OF THEM ARE MANAGED FOREST.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE RIVER ROAD PRESERVE THERE AND THE HEADWATERS LOTS, WHICH HAVE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THEM.
UH, AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER DIAGRAM THAT WE SHOWED OF, OF SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, MARINA SITES WITHIN THE AREA, JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE RELATIVE TO OTHER AREAS.
AND WE DID TRY TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE SIZES OF, OF WHAT'S BEING OFFERED AT THOSE OR SIZES OF SLIPS.
ARE Y'ALL GOOD TO HAVE READY FOR HIM TO GO GIVE HIM A COUPLE MORE MINUTES QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE PROXIMITY TO THE NERVES AND MARINA FROM WHERE YOU LIVE WITH.
SO IF, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO FREEPORT, I BELIEVE IT'S 12 MILES BY BOAT.
UM, FREE PORTS, INTERMITTENTLY OFFERS FUELING.
UM, SO THE NEXT IS REALLY HARBOR TOWN AND I FEEL LIKE IT WAS, UM, FROM MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER, I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE 15 MILES TOTAL PLUS OR MINUS.
I'LL GO BACK AND CONFIRM THAT I HAD AT ONE POINT.
AND, UM, SO THAT WILL ADD THE TOTAL DISTANCE TO THE FULL FEELING AND THAT'S DIESEL THERE'S DIESEL AND THERE'S THERE'S GASOLINE AT HARBOR TOWN.
SO IF YOUR FREEPORT IS INTERMITTENT GAS, NO DIESEL.
SO, AND SO THIS WAS JUST A DIAGRAM WE PREPARED PREVIOUSLY JUST TO SHOW, UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN AT THIS POINT, BUT WE DID OVERLAY THE DRAWINGS FOR THE MARINA AND YOU CAN SEE THE 170, WELL, I THINK 171, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT IT SLIPS, UH, WHERE THAT'S LOCATED.
AND THEN, UM, WHERE THE RED LINE IS LOCATED.
THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE FUEL TANK ON GROUND.
UH, YOU WOULD HAVE A DOUBLE LINES THERE, REGULATIONS IN PLACE, UM, THAT D HECK REGULATES AS IT RELATES TO FUEL, UM, THERE'S REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A DETECTOR THAT SIGNIFIES THAT THERE'S A LEAK IN THE FIRST LINE THAT WOULD THEN BE COLLECTED OR PICKED UP BY THE SECOND LINE.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE FUEL WOULD TANKS WOULD BE.
THE LINE WOULD RUN OUT ALONG THE GANG WAY OR ALONG THE, THE FIXED PIER DOWN THE GANGWAY TO THE FLOATING AND KIND OF THE BOX.
LET ME SEE, I'LL USE MY CURSOR INSTEAD OF MY FINGER.
SO THERE'S A GANGWAY THAT RUNS ALONG HERE, AND THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST PHASE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED.
UM, THIS WOULD BE THE FUEL TANK LOCATIONS.
THE LINE WOULD RUN ALONG TO THE FIXED PIER, HEAD DOWN THE GANGWAY AND DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS WHERE THE FLOATING DOCK WOULD BE.
AND THE PUMP ITSELF WOULD BE, UM, AND THE, THE DISTRIBUTION, UM, UM, MIKE, IS ZIP PROPOSED, WOULD IT BE SELF SERVE OR IS IT SORRY? SORRY TO INTERRUPT SO QUICKLY, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT THAT WE WOULD NOT BE DOING SELF-SERVE.
THIS WOULD BE ENTIRELY SERVED BY FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING IN OPERATING THE FACILITY.
MIKE, WHAT'S THE ELEVATION OF THE LAND THERE, DINA.
UH, SO THE ELEVATION OF LAND IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 10.
IT GOES UP TO 12 AND THE EDGE OF THE CRITICAL LINE IS CLOSER TO SIX, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A ROUGH DIAGRAM, BUT THAT'S THE INTENTION.
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TO, UM, THE, I GUESS, THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY VERSUS PUSHING IT TO THE OTHER END OF THE AREA.UM, AND IT IS PROPOSED TO BE ONE LOCATION.
I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT DO THE, UH, BOULDERS DO NOW FOR GAS WHEN THEY NEED TO GET REFUELED? SO AT WILSON, IT IS ENTIRELY DONE LANDSIDE, RIGHT? SO THEY'LL PICK THE BUGS BOATS UP, UM, AND THEY WILL TRANSPORT THE BOAT TO THE RACK AND THEY'LL FEEL THE BOAT UP ON THE RACK ON LAND SIDE, OUTSIDE OF THE CRITICAL LINE, OUT OF WATER, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS WITH WET SLIPS, THE BOATS ARE LARGER AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE PICKED UP WITH A FORKLIFT.
UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO WAY FOR ANYONE.
SO IF YOU HAD SOMEONE STAYING AT THE ENTER, YOU HAVE THE GRACE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET FUELING UP AT, AT WILSON, THEY DO HAVE TO GO TO HARBOR TOWN, OR THEY DO HAVE TO GO TO THE MARINA TO FUEL.
SO IF IT'S NOT SMALL ABOUT TO BE PICKED UP BY THE FORKLIFT, FEELING OCCURS IN ANOTHER AREA WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT DRY STACK IS OVER ON THAT AND THE PROPERTY THAT'S JUST BASICALLY TO WILSON LANDINGS JUST STUCK NEXT TO EACH OTHER, BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT THE APPROXIMATE SIZE.
WE KNOW THE 70, ANOTHER QUESTION WAS HOW MANY SLIPS ARE THERE? HOW MANY DRY STACKS ARE THERE RIGHT NOW AT WILSON AND IT'S 78 TOTAL SPACES, BUT IT'S 77 BECAUSE, UM, FIRE PROTECTION, NOPE.
THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY PUT A BOOK THERE.
UM, FUEL STORAGE AT WILSON IS WHAT NOW THE TOTAL SIZE OF THE TANK.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN THE DARK SIDE FUELING OR THIS? UM, I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING AT 5,000 GALLON TANKS.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'D BE A, AND WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD WAS BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED, BUT 5,000 DIESEL, 5,000 FOR, UM, GASOLINE.
SO THIS WOULD ANSWER AMANDA'S QUESTION.
YOUR, YOUR CONCEPTUAL FOR DRAFT STACK WOULD BE IDENTICAL TO WILSON.
SO WE USE THIS AS TO UNDERSTAND IF WE WERE TO DO PLANNING IN TERMS OF SIZING, RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW, ARCHITECTURE, I'M SURE THEY'D WANT TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT, MAYBE A DIFFERENT COLOR AND NOT SIGNAL RED OR, UM, BUT TO GET A CONCEPT OF HOW THEY WOULD HAVE IT FUNCTION.
WE DO KNOW THAT 70 FOR A, FOR A MARINA TO FUNCTION, WE'VE SEEN THIS WITH WILSON TO BE ABLE TO HOLD OUR OWN.
WE'RE A LITTLE SHY OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO ACTUALLY FUNCTION ADEQUATELY.
UM, IT'S A LOT OF, I MEAN, BETWEEN LABOR AND EVERYTHING ELSE, 78 IS ON THE LOW SIDE OF WHERE YOU CAN BE A FUNCTIONING MARINA.
UM, BUT FOR A SIZE PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS WHERE THE REASON WE PICKED THIS WAS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF SCALE OF BIG HOUSE ISLAND, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN SCALE OF, OF WHAT OUR, OUR SLIPS ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF A DIAGRAM NOW IN TERMS OF HEIGHT, I KNOW, UM, WILSON RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF HEIGHT, WE ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND 44 FEET, RIGHT? SO THE CAP IS 50.
UM, UM, I'M JUST, I LIKE, I LIKE GETTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM OTHER SO THAT THE CAP IS 50.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE, BECAUSE I KNOW AT ONE POINT THERE WAS SUCH DEMAND AT WILSON.
WE LOOKED AT IF THERE WAS THE POSSIBILITY TO, TO RAISE IT AND ACTUALLY ADD ANOTHER FOURTH RACK.
SO AT SOME POINT WE DID INVESTIGATE THAT.
I THINK WE JUST KIND OF DISMISSED IT, BUT, UM, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT LOOKED AT BECAUSE THE DEMAND IS VERY HIGH.
UM, AND THAT WAS AN EASY WAY TO, TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY, TO GET PEOPLE ON THE WATER.
ARE THEY ONLY FOR PALMETTO BLUFF RESIDENTS NOW? SO RIGHT NOW THEY ARE, BECAUSE I THINK THE ORIGINALLY WAS OPEN TO ANYONE, BUT PRIORITY WAS ALWAYS GIVEN.
I THINK EVEN IN THE CONTRACT, THAT FIRST PRIORITY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO RESIDENTS FIRST, BUT AS LONG AS THERE WAS AVAILABILITY AT THE TIME OF WILSON, UM, IF THERE WAS AVAILABILITY OF FIRST CHOICE WENT TO PALMETTO FOR RESIDENTS, AND THEN IT WAS OPEN TO ANYONE.
SO THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE TO LIVE THERE, BUT THAT QUICKLY, ONCE WE GOT THE ENOUGH PEOPLE AT THE PROPERTY, 78, YOU GET TO HEATHER, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS ANSWER, WHAT THE WAIT LIST IS NOW ON THAT, ON WILSON WAITLIST.
HOW FAR IS IT FROM THE FIELD DOC TO THE LAST SLIP? HM.
SO FROM THIS LOCATION WHERE THE FIELD WOULD BE TO THE LAST SLIP
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FREE QUESTION AND WE CAN, OH, YES.SO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF FUELING, YOU WOULD ONLY FEEL AT THIS LOCATION, THERE WOULD BE A SINGLE LOCATION WHERE YOU PULL YOUR BOAT TO, TO FUEL.
THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL LINES RUNNING TO EVERY SLIP.
IT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD MOVE TO THE SINGLE LOCATION, FUEL UP, GO ON YOUR WAY OR FUEL UP AND THEN GO BACK AND SLIP.
GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONING ABOUT, RATHER THAN WOULD BE ANY DREDGING REQUIRED TO DO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BATHROOM METRIC SURVEYS THAT SHOW, WE HAVE THE DEPTH AND WE HAVE THE WIDTH TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CHANNEL.
UM, AT SOME POINT THERE MAY BE REQUIREMENTS FOR MARKERS, MAYBE NOT REQUIREMENTS, BUT DESIRE FOR MARKERS TO MAKE SURE YOU NAVIGATE THE CHANNEL PROPERLY BECAUSE IT APPEARS, EVEN IF YOU LOOK HERE, IT APPEARS VERY WIDE.
AND THE ACTUAL CHANNEL IS NOT VERY WIDE.
THERE'S A BIG SANDBAR THAT GOES THROUGH HERE.
AND EVEN AS YOU GET TO THE CONFLUENCE AT THE NEXT CONNECTION TO THE RIVER, IT'S A LITTLE COUNTER TO, IF, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A LITTLE COUNTER TO WHAT YOU NORMALLY THINK IS USUALLY THINK THE OUTSIDE WITH A FASTER VELOCITY, THIS IS WHERE THE CHANNEL IS.
AND THE INSIDE IS WHERE THE SEDIMENT BUILDS UP.
BUT WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE IT DOESN'T HOLD TRUE, BUT WE JUST RECENTLY DID A BATHROOM METRIC SURVEY APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE KNOW THE RIVER DOES MOVE A FAIR AMOUNT WITH THE AMOUNT OF CURRENT THAT GOES THROUGH HERE.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF, BUT JUST FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES, WHO, WHERE IS THAT? WHERE DOES THAT HAPPEN? SAY YOU NEVER CAME TO US AND Y'ALL HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US RIGHT NOW, BEFORE YOU START IN THE SANDBAR, WE GO OUT EVERY YEAR TO SEE WHAT THE SANDBARS CHANGE.
LARRY TO TELL ME WHERE THEY ARE EVERY YEAR.
WHAT, WHAT, WHERE DO YOU GO TO GET THAT APPROVAL? DID TO DREDGE.
AND COULD THEY GIVE IT, I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD GIVE IT TO YOU? I DO NOT.
UM, AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE COAST GUARD.
IT'S HARD GIVES YOU THE APPROVAL TO DREDGE.
NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I THINK THAT IS THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY.
I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER, I THINK IT'S CORE ENGINEERS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF I GOT AN ANSWER.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE WHETHER YOU HAVE TO DO DREDGING OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW? WE DON'T HAVE TO BE DRIVEN THE WAY THE CHANNEL WAS IS ESTABLISHED.
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY DREDGING.
MIKE, WHAT IS A MAXIMUM SIZE BOAT YOU CAN LIFT AND FUEL AND THE DRY DOCKS.
I WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
I WOULD, I KNOW RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST BOAT? I THINK IT'S 40 AND LESS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING HIGHER THAN 40.
THEY CAN GET ON THAT FORKLIFT.
UM, WHAT WAS THE MAXIMUM SIZED BOAT? THEY CAN LIFT TO FUEL MAXIMUM SIZE BOAT THEY COULD LIVE.
AND THEN THE OTHER CHALLENGE I BELIEVE IS, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SAILBOATS.
IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A SAILBOAT THAT THE POWERING OF A SAILBOAT, YOU STILL HAVE CHALLENGES WITH FORKLIFT.
SO I'M GETTING THOSE OUT OF THE WATER AND NAVIGABLE WATERS, I BELIEVE ARE THE COAST GUARD, RIGHT.
BECAUSE, AND THEN I THINK DREDGING, YOU ARE, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU ALSO HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM OUR INTERNAL ENGINEERS THAT DO THE PHYSICAL DREDGING.
AND PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE, MY COMMANDER.
UM, AND THIS GOES BACK TO MY FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE ELEVATION OF THE LAND.
CAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH FUEL STORAGE AND PIPING AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE LAND IF IT'S ONLY A 10 FEET? LIKE HOW ARE THESE TANKS IN THE GROUND OR DEPTH THEN? SO I THINK THE PLAN WOULD BE TO BURY THE TANKS.
UM, IS THE CONCERN IN TERMS OF COULD FUELING GET OUT OF IT? YEAH.
I MEAN, I JUST, DON'T, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, IF THEY'RE IN THE GROUND AND THE GROUND'S ALREADY AT 10, LIKE HOW FAR DOWN, AND IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING WOULD COME UP AND OUT? YEAH.
SO TYPICALLY TANKS ARE STORED OR WHEN THEY'RE BURIED UNDERGROUND, THEY'LL HAVE A DEAD MAN ON THEM, WHICH IS BASICALLY A STRAP THAT GOES OVER THE TANK AND IT HAS EITHER WEIGHTS OR AUGERS THAT HOLD THE TANK DOWN TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT A POINT TO ISSUE.
AND ALSO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE, UM, ANY POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING COMING UP.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL CONTROL, IF THERE IS A HURRICANE OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU DID GET A TIDAL SURGE, UM, I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, I'M SURE THERE'S A PROTECTION IN PLACE THAT CAUSES SOME SORT OF CHECK VALVE TO ENSURE THAT NOTHING CAN ACTUALLY
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GET OUT.I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THE VENTING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE VENTING ON THEM, IT EXTENDS WELL ABOVE, UH, THE GROUND.
SO THAT AIR CAN ACTUALLY PASS WELL ABOVE THE GROUND ELEVATION.
THE SAME WOULD BE FOR THE PIPE TO GET IT TO THE DOCK.
LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THE PIRATE TO GET TO THE DOCK IS BURIED.
UM, BUT IT IS A DOUBLE WALLED PIPE, SO IT WOULD JUST GO LOWER.
SO, AND, AND IT BASICALLY GOES UNDERGROUND ABOUT THREE FEET.
IT GETS TO THE, TO THE DOCK ITSELF.
AND AT THAT POINT IT'S RUN ON THE STRINGER OF THE DOCK, RUNS DOWN THE PHYSICALLY, SEE IT UNTIL YOU GOT TO THE EDGE, YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT AT ALL BECAUSE IT IT'LL NAVIGATE.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE LIKE KIND OF CONDUIT SECTIONS ON THE DOCK ITSELF.
SO YOU WOULD NEVER SEE THE PIPING.
MY, UM, BASED ON WHAT WE SEE IN HERE IN FRONT OF US.
SO APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY DRY STORAGE AND HOW MANY WET STORAGE ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 171, RIGHT.
AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A DOUBLE WILSON, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 150.
IT'S 150, EXCEPT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN ONE 50, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, WILSON ACTUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO PASS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CENTER UNIT TO RUN THE FORKLIFT UP AND DROP IN AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEED FOR BACK ACCESS.
SO THAT WOULD ALSO BE ENCLOSED.
UM, SO YOU COULD GET MORE THAN JUST THE 77 WITH THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
AND IF YOU WENT UP TO, UM, THE FOUR STACKS VERSUS THE ONE NOW T TOPS IS ANOTHER THING YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET FOUR HIGH.
IF YOU'RE DOING T TOPS, WHICH IS THE MOST POPULAR BOAT STYLE RIGHT NOW, YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO THE SERIES OF FLATS, BOTH.
SO AGAIN, YOU ADJUST THE RACKS BASED ON WHAT THE DEMAND IS, BUT RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE MY SLIDES.
UM, SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS ANY FOLLOWUP QUESTIONS TO MY, SO IF YOU HAVE MORE APPLICANT PRESENT.
THERE WAS MORE OF A, I APOLOGIZE.
I WAS TRYING TO DO THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS.
WE'LL FOR THE FRUIT AND FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TITLE.
AND MY NAME IS WILL CULP AND I'M A PARTNER WITH SOUTH STREET PARTNERS.
UM, CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY 2022.
UM, UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE, BE BACK IN FRONT OF, UH, THE COUNCIL, UH, TO DISCUSS, UH, THIS REQUEST.
UM, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON, YOU ASKED A QUESTION, UH, BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS NOVEMBER ABOUT WHAT OUR RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH ARE ALSO YOUR RESIDENTS THOUGHT ABOUT OUR PLAN.
UH, AND MY ANSWER TO YOU WAS THAT WE HAD PRESENTED IN TOWN HALL FORMAT THAT WE WERE AT APPLYING FOR A DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO, UH, HAVE FUEL OVER WATER AND DRY STACK, AS IT RELATES TO PRESENTING THAT PLAN, AS WE'VE STATED TODAY AND PREVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED IT YET.
SO TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, HERE'S HOW MANY, ET CETERA, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT WHAT WE DID DO TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST, NOT ONLY FOR YOURSELF, BUT IN THE COUNCIL, BUT FOR US, UM, AS OPPOSED TO HOLDING A COMMUNITY-WIDE MEETING WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR 1100, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS TO ATTEND WHO DON'T ALL LIVE HERE FULL TIME WITH THE HOLIDAYS, WE THOUGHT, UH, THE BEST WAY TO GET ANSWERS FOR HOW OUR COMMUNITY FELT ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL, UH, ADDITION OF FUEL OVER-WATER AND DRY STACK WAS TO, TO SURVEY THEM, TO SEND OUT A SURVEY ANSWERS THAT WE SENT OUT A LOT OF SURVEYS THROUGHOUT OUR PROPERTIES TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS, OUT OF THE 1100, APPROXIMATELY WE SENT, WE HAD 500 RESPONSES WITHIN THE FIRST 18 HOURS, UH, AND ENDED UP WITH ABOUT EIGHT, JUST SHY OF 800 RESPONSES OUT OF 1100, WHICH IS A INCREDIBLE, UM, UH, RESPONSE RATE, UM, OUT OF THE, UM, UH, SAID I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET A COPY OF THIS, UH, THESE RESULTS, BUT OUT OF THE 765 RESPONDENTS, UM, 485 OF THEM STATED THEY WERE BOATERS.
SO ABOUT, UH, 60, 65% OF THOSE, THE QUESTION WAS, DO YOU BELIEVE FUEL OVER-WATER HAS BENEFICIAL OF THE, OF THE 765 RESPONDENTS 475 SAID YES.
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OF THE TOTAL RESPONDENTS.BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT OF THE 485, WHO SAID THEY WERE BOATERS, THOSE ARE MOST LIKELY THE ONES WHO THINK FUEL IS BENEFICIAL.
IF YOU DON'T VOTE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW, OR YOU MAYBE DON'T, YOU MIGHT NOT CARE, BUT OF THE 485 THAT SAID THEY WERE BOATERS.
I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DETAILS, BUT I CAN GET IT 474 PEOPLE SAID YES TO FUEL OVER WATER, BEING BENEFICIAL AS IT RELATES TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, THEIR ACCESS TO WATER, UH, IT, IT, THE ANSON MARINA.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DID ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT DRY STACK.
WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN LEASING? WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BUYING? UM, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 180, UH, ON THE WAIT LIST JUST AT WILSON.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT WE'RE AT 1100 APPROXIMATELY UNITS, PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, AT PALMETTO BLUFF OUT OF POTENTIALLY 4,000, RIGHT? AND, AND TODAY WITH 1100, WE HAVE A 180 PERSON WAIT LIST FOR DRY STACK, PLUS ANOTHER A HUNDRED.
AND EXCUSE ME, UM, 244 OF THE EXISTING 1100, UH, THAT SAY THEY INTERESTED IN LEASING IN 160 THAT SAY THEY ARE INTERESTED IN OWNING A DRY STACK UNIT.
AND SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, THIS IS, UM, WHILE THERE ARE SOME THAT, THAT DON'T WANT IT, OR DON'T, DON'T, UH, PREFER IT.
UM, THIS WAS A, UH, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY FOR US SAYING WHAT THIS PLAN AND WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS, UM, WHAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANT, NOT WHAT SOUTH STREET WANTS OR PALMETTO BLUFF WANTS.
UH, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WANT? SO I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A COPY OF EVERYONE GETS A COPY OF THIS, BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST ADDRESS, ADDRESS THAT ASPECT, UM, OF, OF IT.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON YES.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SPEAK, UM, VOTERS THAT DID THE SURVEY, IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU ASK HOOVER VOTERS.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME POLITICAL, BUT, UH, HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF THOSE THAT DID THE SURVEY ADMIT THAT THEY WERE VOTERS AND THAT THEY WANTED TO DRIVE THAT, THAT THEY WERE BOATERS AND THEY DID NOT, THEY WEREN'T WANTED TO DRIVE STACK.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO GET YOU THAT ANSWER.
I'VE GOT TO GO, WE'VE GOT TO SIFT THROUGH THE DATA TO, TO HAVE EACH INDIVIDUAL RESPONSE TO, TO, TO SIPHON THAT OUT.
THAT'S, I'M NOT MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE WHO ARE BOATERS WON'T WANTED, UH, FUEL.
I'VE GOT TO GET THAT, THAT, UM, I'VE GOT TO DO THAT MATH FROM THE 765 RESPONSE.
I DID REQUEST OR SUGGESTED CLEARLY THAT, UM, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, I HEARD JOE, YOU ASK HIM NIXON, WHY YOU THOUGHT IT PROBABLY WASN'T GOING TO BE THE BEST THING TO DO AT THE TIME, BUT I STILL BELIEVE BEFORE I CAN MAKE A FAIR DECISION ON ANYTHING.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED AT LEAST TO SAY, OR ASK QUESTIONS.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE WERE ASKING AT THIS PANEL, UM, UH, JUST DROPPING THE BUCKET COMPARED TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIVES AND BREATHES THAT, THAT COMMUNITY.
SO EVEN IF THEY DON'T AGREE, I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL THAT YOU SAY MORE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ANYWAY, AND, AND, AND, UM, FULLY RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THAT IS HOW WE, WE DO OPERATE AND, AND MANAGE OUR, OUR, UH, INVESTMENT, OUR, OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UH, WE'RE PRESENT, WE'RE HERE, WE'RE AROUND THE COMMUNITY ASPECT, NEW YEAR'S, NEW YEAR'S EVE HERE FOR FOUR DAYS AND MET MANY OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS, RIGHT.
THAT THEY HAD ABOUT ANYTHING, RIGHT? WHETHER IT BE DRY STACK FUEL, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CLUB.
AND SO BETWEEN MYSELF AND JORDAN PHILLIPS WHO'S, ONE OF MY PARTNERS IS HERE AND, AND W UM, THE OTHER TWO SOUTH STREET, IN ADDITION TO OUR ENTIRE TEAM WE'RE PRESENT.
AND SO WE, WE HOLD TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WE SEND OUT COMMUNICATION, WE ANSWER EVERY EMAIL, EVERY PHONE CALL THAT COMES BACK TO US.
AND SO, AS IT RELATES TO, TO RESPONDING TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS, WHETHER IT'S POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, WE, WE, WE DO THAT.
AND WE MAKE AN EFFORT TO, TO DO THAT.
WE, WE WANT, I THINK WE SAID THIS WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED BACK IN, UM, GOODNESS, JUNE, AND I MAYBE MENTIONED IT LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE SPENT THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS, AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE'LL SPEND THE NEXT 10 YEARS LISTENING TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS, OUR COMMUNITY, WE ARE IN A GROUP THAT SAYS, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? OUR ANSWERS WERE, WE DON'T KNOW.
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WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND FROM, FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WANT.AND THEN WE GO EXECUTE A PLAN BASED ON THAT AND OUR EXPERTISE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAND, UH, AND, AND OUR VALUES AND GOALS.
CAN I MAYBE A FOLLOWUP ON THIS WILL, UM, AND I GUESS IT'S A BLESSING AND A CURSE I'VE BEEN IN THIS PLACE SO LONG, BUT I GO BACK TO THE BEGINNINGS OF PALMETTO BLUFF AND I GO BACK TO, UM, MAYOR MCCRACKEN IS HERE AND WE, I INTERVIEWED HIM AND TALKING ABOUT HOW HE FELT IT IMPORTANT TO PUT IT ON A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT FOR BLUFFTON RESIDENTS AT THE TIME.
UM, AND I WAS ONE OF THEM, FORTUNATELY, TO BE ONE OF THE 700 THAT LIVED HERE TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH PALMETTO BLUFF.
AND I SO APPRECIATE MAYOR MCCRACKEN'S FAULT TO GET THAT OUT TO PEOPLE WHO WILL MOST LIKELY, NEVER LIVED THERE, BUT HAVE LIVED HERE AND ARE WATCHING THINGS GROW UP AROUND US.
UM, SO SAYING THAT I'VE SEEN JAY PAGE AS IN GEAR AT ALBERT, EVEN DAVID O'DONOGHUE IN DALLAS, IT'S HARD TO MEET PEOPLE.
I MEAN, I ANSWERED 150 EMAILS OVER THE LAST THREE DAYS.
AND IF ANYONE MISSED AN EMAIL FROM ME, I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT WAS JUST TOO MANY.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO COMMUNICATE AND I DID GET RESPONSES.
I DON'T THINK THEY EXPECTED ANY OF US TO EVER ANSWER, BUT WE ARE NOT THE COUNCIL.
WE ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT YOU PERCEIVE OTHERS TO BE.
WE ARE FEET ON THE GROUND, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, LOVE OUR RESIDENTS.
THEY DID MEET, UM, WHEN THE MONTAGE WAS BUILT.
UM, GARRETT, ALBERT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IN THIS ROOM LIVED HERE.
WHEN, WHEN HE WAS THERE, HE HAD REALLY HARD MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC.
IT'S NOT A SURVEY, IT'S NOT AN EMAIL.
AND I THINK IT'S NEEDED, BUT I THINK COUNT MERE PROTEOMES PRETTY DIRECT REQUEST WAS YOU'VE GOT TO GET FACE TO FACE.
AND WE HAVE HAD CHARETTES AT THE TIME WHEN WE'VE HAD 15,000 PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS TOWN, AND WE DID THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP.
SHE CAN'T GET THEM ALL IN A ROOM AT THE SAME TIME, BUT IT IS THAT.
AND BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT AREN'T HERE IN THIS ROOM TODAY THAT KEEP US ALL UPDATED AND REALLY ARE MORE OBJECTIVE TO THINGS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PEOPLE DAMN DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.
I WANT TO BE THE LAST ONE THAT MOVED HERE AND I'M SORRY THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT ARE FOLLOWING AND TRUST THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND THEN THEY'RE JUST THOSE IN THE MIDDLE THAT REALLY HAVE A PASSION FOR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE GO BACK AND FORTH.
IF IT TAKES A MONTH OR TWO, I REALLY THINK THESE RESIDENTS DESERVE IT.
UM, BECAUSE THEY MOVED INTO HERE FAR BEFORE Y'ALL KNEW PALMETTO BLUFF EXISTED, UM, FOR THE MOST OF THEM.
SO I WANTED TO KIND OF SUPPORT FRED IN THAT.
AND I, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
I THINK THEY'RE GREAT AS A SECONDARY FORM BECAUSE IT DOES GET, UH, YOU HAD AN AMAZING RESPONSE.
YOU SHOULD DO Y'ALL SHOULD DO OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY.
YOU HAVE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT I'VE BEEN FORWARDED WHAT I HAVE A LITTLE BITS OF IT, BUT I THINK THIS COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE IT MAYER.
UM, I MAY, WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT TO YOU, HAVE YOU ALL SPOKEN WITH THE CONSERVANCY, UM, WITH, WITH J WHALEY AND WHERE ARE THEY ON THIS? I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM, UM, AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS THEIR PURPOSE OF BEING ORGANIZED AND FORMED WAS TO WEIGH IN ON, ON ITEMS OF CONSERVATION AND HOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF PALMETTO BLUFF PROCEEDS.
SO I WOULD BE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THAT FROM THE CONSERVANCY STANDPOINT, UM, D I'LL ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD, GOOD ONE.
UM, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH A CONSERVANCY.
UM, I WAS WITH JAY LAST WEEK, I TALKED TO JAY ONCE A WEEK.
UM, I'M MEETING WITH PATTY KENNEDY NEXT WEEK, UH, THE, UH, CHAIR OF THE BOARD.
UM, I THINK JUST, UH, UH, A SIDEBAR.
WE THINK THAT THE CONSERVANCY IS, UH, WE THINK IT'S, UM, ONE OF THE MOST, IF NOT THE MOST SPECIAL ASPECTS OF PALMETTO BLUFF, WE ARE A LESS, IS MORE GROUP, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE THINK.
UM, IF YOU CAN LOOK, YOU CAN LOOK TO OUR PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS AND OUR EXISTING ONES ARE CONTACTED.
OUR MOTTO IS DESIGNED WITH NATURE, DEVELOP WITH NATURE, RIGHT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH AN, AS IT RELATES TO JAY, UM, WITH JAY, WE HAVE INVITED JAY AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR, THIS WASN'T OCCURRING PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE'VE INVITED JAY TO EVER SEEN ONE OF OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO WHEN WE'RE READY TO EXECUTE A PLAN.
UM, AS IT WAS, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR JAY.
I CAN'T SAY JAY SUPPORTS THIS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD JAY OR THE CONSERVANCY SAY
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WE DON'T SUPPORT IT.MAYBE WE SHOULD HEAR FROM, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE ON THAT, THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
IF THAT'S A REQUEST OF THIS COMMITTEE, UM, GET THAT ARRANGED AND HAVE THEM MAYBE DO A GOOD, A SMALLER VERSION OF A PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEIR PURPOSE WERE.
WITH JAY, UM, WE'RE KIND OF MORPHING INTO A D AND E.
UM, SO ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF, OF KEVIN? ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS WITHIN THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU WANT TO THROW KIND OF OUT THERE THAT WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS? I STILL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STORAGE OF WILSON MARINA IS OF FUEL.
AND ARE THEY ABOVE GROUND OR ARE I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE PROBABLY BELOW GROUND, UH, FROM WHAT HE SAID EARLIER, AND THEN HE SAID, UH, 5,000 GALLON TANKS TO, UH, ONE GASOLINE AND ONE DIESEL.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S I KNOW THAT'S JUST PROPOSED AND NO, THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, IN WRITING, UM, THE WILSON TANKS ABOVE GROUND, THEY ARE ABOVE GROUND.
AND, AND TO CLARIFY THROUGH THAT, THE FUEL THAT IS ALLOWED AT WILSON CAN BE DONE AT BIG HOUSE.
THE REQUEST IS CAN THEY BRING IT OVER WATER? EXACTLY.
AND THAT'S MY, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I HAVE A STRONG BACKGROUND IN THAT I'M VERY INTERESTED IN.
SO CURRENT FUEL STORAGE AS IT SITS CURRENTLY AT WILSON, RIGHT.
AND THEN THE PROPOSED AND PROPOSED.
I'M DOING, UH, CAN YOU REPEAT HOW MANY 50 FOOT SLIPS IN 55 FOOT SLIPS? I'VE BEEN APPROVED THE COPY OF THE PERMIT IN THE, IN THE PACKET.
SO I THINK THIS IS IN THE PACKET, BUT I'LL READ IT.
UM, I FOUND 8 25, 12 35, 49, FORTIES, 1450S, 50 FIVES.
IS THAT TALL? I DIDN'T ADD UP QUICK ENOUGH.
IS THAT THE FIRST 50, THE FIRST PHASE, OR IS THAT THE TOTAL ONE 70? NO.
WELL, IF IT'S OVER 50, IT'S GOTTA BE THE TOTAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
I WAS TOTALLY, HE DIDN'T DEEP WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ASHLEY, BUT, AND IT ACTUALLY SHOWED SOMEWHAT OF A, THE SIDE TIE SLIPS, WHICH, WHICH EQUATES TO 89 PLUS OR MINUS THE SIDE TIES ARE DEDICATED RIGHT NOW TO BE A 42 AND PHASE ONE 19.
UH, DO YOU, DO YOU SEE THIS AS A PHASE ONE OR IS THIS MY FINAL PHASE, OR HAVE YOU EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, WOULD YOU BE COMING BACK AT SOME LATER DATE AND ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OR MORE DRY STACKS OR, YOU KNOW, MORE WET SLIPS STILL WOULD FALL WITHIN 170 WE HAVE NOW, OR YOU'RE SAYING YES, YES, YES.
SEE THE ONE 70 IS WHAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE NOW, AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL PERMIT WAS A FIVE-YEAR PERMIT, RIGHT.
SO WE FELT COMFORTABLE IN A FIVE-YEAR PERMIT.
WE BUILD THE FIRST 50 AND WE CONTINUE ALONG WITH THE REMAINDER OF THAT.
BUT YES, WE APPEARED, WE DID SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BEYOND TO CLOSER TO THE 300 OR 400 WEST LIPS.
ANYONE THAT'S PRESENTED, SORRY.
GOING ALONG WITH THOSE LINES, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY WILLINGNESS AND I GUESS THIS IS WHERE WE COME IN AS NEGOTIATIONS COMMITTEE ON, ON, ON BRINGING THAT WET SLIP NUMBER DOWN IN EXCHANGE FOR A DRY SLIP OR FOR THE DRY DOCK.
SORRY, THAT'S, I'M PUTTING THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU ALL.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER BECAUSE I DO WANT TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM HAMILTON IN THE NOVEMBER REQUEST TO MEET IN PERSON.
AND I THINK BEFORE WE GET A TRUE, A SIGNIFICANT MEETING OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, AT LEAST IN PERSON, UM, WE CAN THROW OUT OUR THOUGHTS WHERE WE NEGOTIATE.
CAUSE I, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SAW SOME REAL STRONG CONCERNS OF COUNCIL AND, UM, AND I'LL MENTION THEM.
BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN-PERSON MEETING BEFORE WE SIT HERE AS A BODY, UM, TO NEGOTIATE REALLY ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN, UH, PALMETTO BLUFF.
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GROWN UP ON THIS WATER, THAT SEA CHANGES ON A DAILY, ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT Y'ALL SAW IN THE PACKET, THE CONCERNS OF COUNCIL, THE MEETING WAS THE PRIMARY ONE, UM, LONG ISLAND AND DOUGHBOY WAS VERY IMPORTANT.UM, THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, WHICH HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST 15, 20 YEARS, AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, WET VERSUS DRY ASHLEY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED.
UM, AND I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THE REQUEST IS FOR DRY STACK AND FUEL OVER WATER.
WHAT MIKE GAVE US IS SOMETHING FOR ALL OF US TO BE AWARE OF THAT CAN BE DONE TODAY.
AND IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE SENT THIS TO A NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, IT CAN BE DONE TODAY.
SO EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE, AS TERRY SAID, UM, SIZE OF BOAT THAT CAN GO DOWN THAT WATERWAY, UM, DRY AND WET AND WE CAN NEGOTIATE.
AND WE HAVE SAT HERE BEFORE AND IT WENT NOWHERE.
AND WE HAVEN'T, AS YOU SAW IN THE MINUTES FROM 19, HADN'T HEARD BACK FROM THAT APPLICANT.
UM, SO IT CAN GO NOWHERE, BUT I WANT TO, THIS IS A PLACE, NOT A PROJECT.
AND I HOPE EVERYONE STOPS USING THE WORD PROJECT BECAUSE SINCE THE DAY THIS WAS BROUGHT TO BLUFFTON MERE MCCRACKEN, IT WAS ALWAYS CONSIDERED A PLACE.
AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP IN PLACE FOR THIS TOWN.
UM, BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE WATER THAT NEVER, EVER HAD A CHANCE.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE ACCESS, YOU HAVE APPRECIATION.
SO, UM, PLEASE THROW IT ALL OUT.
BUT I DO FEEL LIKE IN RESPECT OF COUNCIL AND MERE PORT TOWN, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST, UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE DIFFERENT.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN'T FINAL.
AND THEN I KNOW WE DO HAVE OTHER, UM, ENGAGEMENTS AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE, HAVE TO LEAVE.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OF THE APPLICANT OF MIKE, OF TERRY? OKAY.
WELL, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, AS, AS YOU DO AT PLANNING COMMISSION, I LIKE HOW YOU CUT IT OFF.
IT IS THREE MINUTES MAX AND I WILL POLITELY THANK YOU WHEN THE BUZZER GOES OFF.
UM, I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ANY SIGNS OF DISRESPECT TOWARD ANYONE IN THIS ROOM.
WE ALL HAVE OUR THOUGHTS, OUR FEELINGS, OUR PASSIONS, BUT IF IT BECOMES DISRESPECTFUL, I WILL GOBBLE YOU.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO, IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? THANK YOU.
UM, BUT DO DO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS BECAUSE WE ARE LISTENING.
THERE ARE PROBABLY A DOZEN EMAILS I RECEIVED LAST NIGHT FROM RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN BLUFFTON.
I TRIED TO FORWARD EVERYTHING TO Y'ALL.
I WILL PUT IT ALL IN ONE CONCISE.
I JUST COULDN'T DO IT LAST NIGHT.
SO YOU'LL HAVE ONE PACKET BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE, UM, WE DON'T DO THAT AT A FORMAL COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO BE HEARD.
THERE WERE SOME REALLY GREAT SOLUTIONS, WHICH I LIKE TO HEAR WHEN THEY'RE ISSUES AND I'LL MAKE SURE THIS COMMITTEE GETS IT.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE, UM, AND I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE, UM, THREE MINUTES, UH, ROBERT AND IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
CAUSE I DON'T MEAN TO IS ROBERT FOR LOCO, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
AND IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TO TALK WITHOUT YOUR MASK, YOU CAN, BUT IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT ON, THAT'S FINE TOO MUCH EASIER TO TALK WITHOUT THIS.
SO I'D ALREADY SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS, I'M SORRY.
ROBERT FOR WACO, SPELLED F U O C O A ADDRESS 18 JACK FIELD ROAD LOCKED IN, I MEAN, PALMETTO BLUFF, UM, LIVED THERE.
I STILL AM A LAND USE ATTORNEY.
I PRACTICE SOMEWHAT PART-TIME IN MARYLAND, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS WHOLE APPLICATION PROCESS.
AND GENERALLY I REPRESENT DEVELOPERS.
SO I'M SORT OF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, UH, FROM OUR STANDPOINT AS AN ATTORNEY, WHEN I REPRESENTED A DEVELOPER, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTING A CHANGE IS YOU HAVE TO PRESENT IT TO THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THIS HAS NEVER BEEN PRESENTED TO US AS A PROPOSAL, AS A CONCEPT PLAN TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE? WHAT ARE YOUR INPUTS? WHAT CHANGES WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE? THERE'S BEEN NO NEGOTIATION HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE, WHICH IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I DO AS A LIVING, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP.
AND I THINK PB IS DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IS, IS THE WAY THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT IN THE CONCESSIONS MADE BY THE DEVELOPER WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GO BACK ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE PROMISED AND WERE GIVEN UP IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS POINT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONCEPT OF BRINGING PB INTO BLUFFTON WAS UNIQUE AT THE TIME, AND TO GO BACK DOWN AND TRY TO TAKE BACK THINGS THAT WERE CONCEITED AND TAKE BACK THINGS THAT WE,
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THAT THE DEVELOPER VOLUNTARILY GAVE UP TO GET TO THIS POINT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE AND EVENTUALLY THE TOWN COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TRADING, YOU CAN'T TAKE BACK SOMETHING THAT YOU GAVE UP IN ORDER TO GET SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE DOING IS JUST CONTINUING TO IGNORE THE RULES, MOVE DOWN THE PATH OF, WE WANT MORE, WE WANT MORE, WE WANT MORE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME DISCUSSION, RIGHT? THERE HAS TO BE SOME LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND I'M NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT.I RELY ON THEM WHEN I PRESENT A CASE.
SO HAVING JAY WALLY GIVE HIS INPUT, I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.
I MEAN, JAY'S A GREAT STEWARD OF THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THE OPINION OF THE CONSERVANCY SHOULD BE LISTENED TO, BUT THE OPINION OF NOT JUST THE PB RESIDENTS, BUT EVERYONE ELSE.
I MEAN, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE TOWN? HOW WILL IT AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE ON THE WATER? YOU KNOW, HOW WIDE IS THE WATER IN THAT AREA FOR BOATS? I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT I'M ASKING THAT THE COMMITTEE HAVE OPEN-MINDED IDEAS AND WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS, NOT JUST, AND I'M NOT SAYING RUBBER STAMP, BUT NOT JUST APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT'S BEING REQUESTED BY A NEW DEVELOPER.
YOUR SIR, ANTHONY MANUAL ANSLEY MANUAL 1 0 4 PRITCHARD STREET.
UM, I TO THANK THE, UH, APPLICANT AND THE STAFF FOR A VERY CLEAR PRESENTATION TODAY, AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ASKING SOME GREAT QUESTIONS.
I WANT TO REMIND THIS COMMITTEE THAT, UH, PALMETTO BLUFF ORIGINALLY WANTED TO LEAVE THE COUNTY AND COMING TO THE TOWN, BE ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN, TO HAVE SOME SOURCES SAY TRIPLE THE DENSITY THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE.
AND IN CONCESSION THAT MUCH HIGHER DENSITY, THEY WERE WILLING TO TRADE, UM, HAVING ACCESS TO THE WATER, UH, LIMITING THAT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND EVEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, UH, IT CLEARLY STATES NO FUEL OVER WATER.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT AND PALMETTO BLUFF TRADED THAT TO HAVE THE HIGHER DENSITY.
UH, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE DREDGING, NOT CLEAR ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DREDGE IN THE FUTURE.
ALSO, UM, THE ONLY HARD NUMBER WE HAVE ON THESE BOATS SLIPS IS THE PERMIT THAT HAS NOW EXPIRED, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY HARD NUMBER WE HAVE.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO NEGOTIATE FROM 400? ARE YOU GOING TO GO NEGOTIATE FROM WHAT THE STATE AGENCY HAS ALLOWED THEM TO HAVE? THANK YOU, JAMES LAWTON.
AND I DON'T THINK HE HERE, BUT I FORWARDED Y'ALL HIS EMAIL FROM LAST NIGHT AND I'LL CALL HIM JUST IN CASE HE CAME JAMES LAWTON.
GOOD MORNING, JESSE WHITE ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE BEAVER AT SOUTH CAROLINA, DOCKSIDE FUELING AND A NEW DRY STACK AT THE SOUTHERN END OF PALMETTO BLUFF, POST SUBSTANTIAL AND UNNECESSARY RISKS, WATER QUALITY ECOSYSTEM, HEALTH, AND COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE URGE YOU TO DENY THESE REQUESTED CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE ORIGINAL VISION FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT CONTAINED IMPORTANT COMMITMENTS TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY AND RETAIN OPEN SPACE EXPLICITLY PROHIBITING DOCKSIDE, FUELING, AND LIMITING TO A SINGLE DRY DOCK, DRY STACK.
THESE WERE PROTECTIONS NEGOTIATED AND LIFTING THEM NOW WILL HAVE A DOMINO EFFECT ON THE INTENSITY OF WATER USE AND DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHERN END OF PALMETTO BLUFF AND BEYOND, INCLUDING THE ECOLOGICALLY AND IMPORTANT ECOLOGICALLY IMPORTANT AND VULNERABLE ISLANDS OF DOUGHBOY AND LONG ISLAND.
THE RISKS AND LONG-TERM COSTS OF LIFTING.
THESE RESTRICTIONS WILL BE BORNE BY THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS, AND THEY FAR OUTWEIGH ANY PERCEIVED SHORT-TERM GAINS WHILE A MARINA HAS LONG BEEN PART OF THE PLANS, DOCKSIDE FUELING, AND A NEW DRY STOCK WERE NEVER PART OF THOSE PLANS.
THEY'RE NOT AUTHORIZED UNDER THE EXISTING PERMIT AND THEY WOULD REQUIRE NEW STATE AND FEDERAL PERMITS TO BE APPLIED FOR.
IN ADDITION, THERE ALREADY EXISTS AT LEAST FIVE DEEP WATER MARINAS WITH DOCKSIDE FUELING ON HILTON HEAD, THEIR CHANGES REQUESTED OR A CLEAR DEPARTURE FROM THE ORIGINAL VISION AND CORE VALUES THAT DEFINE PALMETTO BLUFF AS A HIGH QUALITY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE COMMUNITY.
IF ALLOWED, THEY'LL REPRESENT THE BEGINNING OF A SHIFT IN HOW THE PROPERTY DEVELOPS AND WHAT IT LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE THE AND UNIQUE NEW RIVER ESTUARY WILL BE IRREPARABLY CONVERTED
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INTO HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AND INTENSELY DEVELOPED FUELING STATION AT A MINIMUM, THE TOWN SHOULD HOLD FIRM ON THE ORIGINAL COMMITMENT TO PROHIBIT DOCKSIDE FUELING.IT SHOULD ALSO RENEGOTIATE TO SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ALLOWABLE WET SLIPS, INCREASED BOAT TRAFFIC, PARTICULARLY LARGER VESSELS WILL IMPAIR AND ERODE THE VAST SURROUNDING MARSH AND INEVITABLY LEAD TO REQUESTS FOR DRUDGING OF THE NEW RIVER AND ADDITIONAL DRY STACK SHOULD ONLY BE CONSIDERED IN EXCHANGE FOR SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN WET SLIPS.
EVEN 50 WET SLIPS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT AT THIS LOCATION ON THE NEW RIVER, WHICH IS WINDING AND FULL OF SAND FLATS.
WE WOULD FURTHER RECOMMEND A COMMITMENT TO PERMANENT PROTECTION FOR THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY VALUABLE AND VULNERABLE PARTS OF PALMETTO BLUFF THROUGH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, INCLUDING LONG ISLAND AND DOUGHBOY ISLANDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I WOULD ASK THE GUY THAT DOES THE SLIDES.
IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE THAT WAS PRESENTED, YOU HAVE, YEAH, HE CAME AT THREE MINUTES.
YOU'RE REALLY JUST GIVEN PUBLIC HEALTH.
I OWN A LOT OF ISLANDS IN MARSH ADJACENT TO PALMETTO BLUFF, AND I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UH, IF YOU WOULD SEE THAT SLIDE, YOU WOULD SEE THIS THREE MILE STRETCH OF RIVER THAT IS RESTRICTED TO SHELLFISH HARVESTING, AND THERE'S A ONE MILE STRIP STRETCH IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? WHERE THEY WANT THAT MARINA THAT'S PROHIBITED FOR SHELLFISH HARVESTING.
NOW HE SHOWED YOU A MAP OF PUBLIC SHELLFISH, SHELLFISH HARVESTING.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATE SHELLFISH HARVESTING ALL AROUND MY ISLANDS, ALL IN THE MARSH.
I HAVE FISHING AS PUBLIC CRABBING, AS PUBLIC SHRIMPING, AS PUBLIC THERE'S PROBLEMS IN THAT RIVER FUEL OVER-WATER PUMP OUTS, BILGE PUMPS.
I SAW A GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ROUNDUP ON ALL THOSE NICE LAWNS.
THAT'S GOING TO FIND ITS WAY INTO THE WATER AND, AND CRABS AND SHRIMP JUST DON'T STAY IN ONE PLACE.
SO YOU CAN'T SAY THE SHRIMP ARE ONLY IN RACCOON CREEK.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE UP IN THE NEW RIVER.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL OVER INTO THE OCEAN BACK.
SO I WOULD BEG YOU TO STAY WITH THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND NOT ALLOW FUEL OVER WATER AND THE EXTRA DRY STACKS, EVEN MORE DRY STACK IS JUST MORE BOAT, TRAFFIC, MORE WAVES, MORE DAMAGE TO THE MARSH.
AND IT'S SILLY TO SAY THAT A BOAT OVER 40 FEET NEEDS FUEL EVERY EIGHT MILES.
THOSE BOATS HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED GALLONS OF FUEL CAPACITY.
THEY CAN EASILY MAKE IT TO SAVANNAH CHARLESTON AND FURTHER ON THE FUEL THEY HAVE ON BOARD.
THEY DON'T NEED TO FUEL UP EVERY EIGHT MILES.
THE SMALLER BOATS CAN BE LIFTED EASILY.
THEY CAN EASILY BE LIFTED ON THE LAND.
SO, UM, SO PLEASE, I WOULD BEG YOU TO STAY WITH YOUR ORIGINAL PLAN.
AND I HAD ANOTHER NOTE AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, INSTEAD OF JUST A SHAREHOLDER MEETING, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, OUR REALTOR AND DEVELOPMENT, AND I SAID, I COULD ADD YOUR PROPERTY VALUE IF I DO THIS, DO YOU AGREE? PROBABLY MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY YES, BUT THAT'S NOT THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN BUSINESS WITH YOU.
SO WHAT ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO SAY? SO, UM, PLEASE STICK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLIFE OUT THERE AND WE WON'T EVEN START TALKING ABOUT ALL THE BIRDS THAT FORAGE ON THE ISLANDS I HAVE IN FORGING THOSE MARSHES.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THEM WHEN FUEL SPILLS? CAUSE IT WILL.
AND THE DAMAGE TO THE MARSH AND THE DAMAGE TO THE RIVER IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, UM, YEARS AGO, THAT WAS A VERY FERTILE SHELLFISH BEDS IN THAT AREA.
ALL THE DOFEST OYSTERS DIED OFF.
SOME PARTS STILL AREN'T THERE, LIKE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND AS AN ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, I'M HAPPY TO OBJECT IN FRONT OF THE STATE OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEER AND, UH, PROVIDE SOMEONE'S STANDING IF THEY WISH TO OBJECT TO THIS IN COURT.
SO PLEASE STICK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
THERE'S NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING RISKY JUST BECAUSE OF SOME MONEY.
CAN YOU GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS? YOU DIDN'T DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING.
MY PROPERTY IN BLUFFTON IS ALONG THE FORMER LANE.
I CAN'T QUITE, IS IT 10 HEART LYNN HEART? THE LETTER IS WRONG.
MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA ENVIRONMENTAL LAW PROJECT IN MOUNT PLEASANT AT FIVE 10 LAVA DRIVE IN MOUNT PLEASANT.
AND, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW PROJECT WE CALL OURSELVES SCALP HAS REPRESENTED THE LOCAL SIERRA CLUB CHAPTER FOR OVER, UH, OVER THE YEARS WITH REGARD TO PALMETTO BLUFF IN SEEKING WATER QUALITY AND WETLAND PROTECTIONS FOR THE AREA ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SIERRA CLUB AND ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO USED THESE WATERS.
AND WE ARE HERE TO ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE AMENDMENT.
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OF ALL, UM, JUST AS A CLARIFICATION ON THE DREDGING ISSUE, IT'S THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND DX OCEAN AND COASTAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT OFFICE THAT APPROVES DREDGING ACTIVITIES, NOT THE COAST GUARD.AND I THINK THAT THERE IS, THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF SOME CONFUSION THAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, REITERATE WHAT THE MAYOR SUGGESTED AND WHAT MR. HAMILTON HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE REALLY NEED THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE MORE ACCESS AND MORE INFORMATION FOR THIS.
BUT REGARDLESS OF OF THAT, UH, WE BELIEVE THIS REQUEST IS COMPLETELY CONTRARY TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZED DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND THE PLAN STATES THAT BLUFFTON SHOULD PLACE PLANNING AND LAND USE DECISIONS, INCLUDING STORMWATER TREATMENT ON THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO ITS WATERSHED.
UH, THE NEW RIVER ESTUARY AND THE MAY RIVER IS IN PARTICULAR AS DESIGNATED BY D HECK AS AN OUTSTANDING RESOURCE WATER OR N O R W PRESERVING MAY RIVER'S WATER QUALITY IS AND SHOULD BE A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE TOWN BACKSIDE FUELING AND A NEW DRY DRY STACK ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN WOULD ALLOW USES THAT THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SOUGHT TO PRECLUDE SPECIFICALLY PROTECTION OF WATER QUALITY AND THE MAY RIVER DOCKSIDE FUELING FACILITIES GENERATE POLLUTANTS THAT CAN EASILY FLOW INTO THE RIVER AND SINK INTO THE MARINA BASIN, WHERE THEY CAN BE INGESTED BY BOTTOM OR FILTER FEEDING FISH AND NEGATIVE NEGATIVELY IMPACT AQUATIC VEGETATION, EVEN SMALL SPILLS, SUCH AS OVERFILLING GAS TANKS, WHICH OCCUR VERY COMMONLY CAN HAVE VERY DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS AND HAVE A DOWN TRICKLE EFFECT ON THE ENTIRE WATERSHED.
SO FOR THESE REASONS, WE WOULD ASK THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL RECOMMEND, I MEAN THAT THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND THAT THE FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT BE DENIED.
MA'AM ERIC SUTHERLAND MORNING.
MY NAME IS ERIC SUTHERLAND, A 1 55 STALLINGS ISLAND STREET, PALMETTO BLUFF.
UH, TODAY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS OF THE POP METAL BLUFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION OF OVER 250 MEMBERS, WHICH IS GROWING DAILY OF PALMETTO BLUFF HOMEOWNERS COMMUNITY.
THAT WAS A RELAUNCH IN OCTOBER OF 21.
WE ARE NOT AN AFFILIATE OF SOUTH STREET PARTNERS.
A KEY OBJECTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS TO SERVE OUR MEMBERS IN ASSISTING TO ENSURE THE ORIGINAL VISION OF PALMETTO BLUFF REMAINS IN PLACE AS IT GROWS.
AND THIS REQUIRES CAREFUL AND INFORMED PLANNING.
AND DECISION-MAKING HOMEOWNERS BY FAR HAVE THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN PALMETTO BLUFF.
WE KNOW AND RESPECT YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE CONSTRUCTIVE PUBLIC INPUT, NOT BY JUST RESIDENTS OF PALMETTO BLUFF, BUT ALSO THE BLUFFTON COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INPUT THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED, AND WE FEEL AS ESSENTIAL FOR YOU TO ARRIVE AT THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE BELIEVE THE DECISIONS BEFORE YOU HAVE PROFOUND AND LONG LASTING IMPACT ON THE FUTURE OF PALMETTO BLUFF AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON OPEN, HONEST PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS IN A IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY, AS WELL AS FOR GOOD DECISION-MAKING.
THE PALMETTO BLUFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT HERE TO TAKE SIDES, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT A FULL OPEN, HONEST PROCESS TAKES PLACE AS YOU CONSIDER THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU FIRST, PLEASE KNOW, AS YOU HAVE HEARD, THEY HAVE NOT, THE DEVELOPERS NOT SHARED THEIR PLANS OR THEIR VISION ABOUT ANTS AND MARINA WITH A PUBLIC BLUFF COMMUNITY AT LARGE, OR ITS NEIGHBORS.
THE GENERAL LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE OF ANTS AND BIG HOUSE LONG ISLAND DOUGHBOY ARE LITTLE AS WELL AS HOW LITTLE CONSERVATION THERE TRULY EXISTS IN PALM METAL BLUFF.
SECONDLY, CONTRARY TO SOUTH STREET PARTNERS, COMMENTS ON NOVEMBER NINE COUNCIL MEETING, THERE HAS BEEN NO TOWN HALL TO PRESENT PLANS TO PALMETTO BLUFF PROPERTY OWNERS.
AT THAT MEETING, THEY COMMITTED TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE MEETING WAS NECESSARY.
THAT WAS A NECESSARY STEP BEFORE MEETING WITH THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE NOT FULFILLED THEIR COMMITMENT TO YOU, THEIR SURVEY, WHICH THEY REFERENCED WAS NOT INDEPENDENT.
THEY ONLY ASKED IN THE SURVEY, WHAT DO YOU WANT? THAT'S IT, NOTHING ELSE.
ANOTHER THING YOU SHOULD BE AWARE IS THAT GRATEFULLY FRED HAMILTON AND LARRY TUMOR HAVE
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GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO MEET WITH THE PALMETTO BLUFF NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 13TH AT PALMETTO BLUFF, WE WOULD INVITE YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, VISIT AND BE WITH US AS WELL TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.UM, PETER KAHN, IS IT OR COM K O H N NOT MISTAKEN.
I WILL DOUBLE CHECK AND I'LL SEND COMMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE, BOB MARETTE, IS THAT, DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY? THANK YOU.
UH, BOB MAREK, 2 5, 3 WATERFALL ROAD IN PALMETTO BLUFF AND IN BLUFFTON, UM, I'M SPEAKING, I'M A MEMBER OF THE LEADERSHIP GROUP OF, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
I'M NOT, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, EXCERPTS FROM A FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT, WHICH WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT TODAY AT ALL.
AND THAT IS THE COMMUNITY CHARTER FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
THIS IS PAGE ONE OF WHAT WE ALL GET AS PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE MAYOR HAS ACTUALLY QUOTED THIS, THIS CHARTER.
YOU CAN HAVE MY HIGHLIGHT BY COPY HERE.
UM, THE VISION FOR PALMETTO BLUFF GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT ONE OF AMERICA'S TREASURED LANDSCAPES WHILE CREATING A HUMAN SETTLEMENT FOR THOSE WHO SHARES THE UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT, THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF PALMETTO BLUFF WISE, AND THE BEAUTY VASTNESS IN RICHNESS OF ITS SEA ISLAND LANDSCAPE.
THE PLAN FOR PALMETTO BLUFF HAS, HAS, AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE GUIDED BY THE LAND RATHER THAN BY IMPOSITION OF A DEVELOPER TEMPLATE ON THIS PLANT.
IT IS OUR DESIRE TO CREATE A PLACE RATHER THAN A PROJECT, A MEMORABLE PHRASE, A PRIMARY GOAL ENVISION WILL BE SHARED THIS SHARED DEDICATION TO THE NATURAL TREASURES, WHICH HAVE MADE PALMETTO BLUFF SO SPECIAL FOR SO LONG.
THIS COMMUNITY CHARTER IS INTENDED TO SERVE AS A FRAMEWORK FOR COMMUNITY GOVERNANCE, REFLECTIVE OF THE PRIORITY, GIVEN TO THE PRESERVATION OF PALM METAL, PLUS RICH HISTORY, FUNDED WILDLIFE, NATURAL BEAUTY IN CRITICAL, FRESH AND SALTWATER ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR WEBSITE BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DOCUMENT.
I GIVE IT TO YOU AND FEEL FREE TO, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO OUR TOWN MANAGER AND WE'LL GET IT COPIED FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL.
UM, PATRICIA COLE, JANE HESTER IS NOT HERE.
I FORWARDED IT TO YOUR, TO THE COMMITTEE.
LISA DANIEL NOT, DID NOT SEE AN EMAIL FROM HER, BUT WE WILL REACH OUT LISA DANIEL.
AND FINALLY, LYNN CASEY, YOU SENT US THE FIRST ONE OF THE FIRST EMAILS.
UM, THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AND THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE TODAY.
UM, UH, I'VE LIVED, UM, IN AND AROUND BLUFFTON, UH PART-TIME FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, UM, BOTH AS A RESIDENT IN PALMETTO BLUFF, BUT ALSO IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN HERE LONG BEFORE TWO 70.
IT WAS HERE AND, UM, UH, PALMETTO BLUFF IS MY LONG-TERM HOME.
AND, UH, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND PERSONAL DECISION, UM, FOR THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE AND FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THIS IS A TIPPING POINT FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN, WITH THE RESIDENTS OF BLUFFTON, WITH SOUTH STREET PARTNERS AND HENDERSON PARK, THEIR BACKERS AND FINANCERS IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE COMMUNICATION.
WE DON'T JUST NEED ONE TOWN COUNCIL, ONE TOWN HALL MEETING TO SHARE COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.
WE NEED THAT TO BE AN ONGOING, AN ONGOING COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE OWNERS OF COMMODORE BLUFF AND SOUTH STREET PARTNERS.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CHANGE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR IN THE FUTURE.
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UM, SITUATIONS WILL CHANGE.WE NEED AN ONGOING GREAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ALL OF US, AND THIS IS A GREAT NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE TO HEAR THE PUBLIC AND TO HEAR WHAT WE REALLY THINK ABOUT, UM, THE POTENTIAL DREDGING, THESE CHANGES AS A RESIDENT, I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER, UM, REJECTING THIS REQUEST.
UM, IT WILL HURT THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, IT WILL HURT THE COMMUNITY OF PALMETTO BLUFF.
IT WILL OVERDEVELOP THE AREA CALLED ANTS AND MARINA, UM, AND ENCOURAGE SOUTH STREET PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH THE MEMBERS.
UM, ZOOM MEETINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
YOU CAN SCHEDULE THEM WITHIN A WEEK NOTICE.
UM, IF THEY GOT SO MUCH RESPONSE FROM THE SURVEY, WHICH WAS VERY SHORT AND, AND VERY NARROWLY DEFINED, THEY'RE GOING TO GET GREAT RESPONSE IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH, WITH, UM, WITH WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DO OUTREACH.
UM, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET THE TWO PARTNERS HERE TODAY, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT AFTER THIS MEETING, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND TO ANY TOWN HALL MEETINGS, UH, WITH SOUTH STREET PARTNERS.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERING MY REQUEST, UM, AS A RESIDENT TO, TO DENY, UM, THE MOTIONS BEFORE YOU AND RECOMMEND THAT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.
UM, AS PROMISED I WASN'T GOING TO HAVE THIS RUN PAST 12, UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO END UNLESS STAFF HAD ANY THOUGHTS OF ANY QUESTIONS.
DO Y'ALL HAVE OUR REQUEST THAT WE CAN GET TO ANYONE TAKE NOTES.
KEVIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO FINALLY ADDRESS? YES.
I BELIEVE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN OVER HERE TAKING NOTES, UM, VARIOUS QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN COMING UP WITH, UM, AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER, UM, AND THEN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS, UM, WAS THAT COMMUNITY MEETING HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN PRIOR TO THE NEXT NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, RIGHT? UM, FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, UM, THAT'S UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, TO, TO SET THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, IF YOU JUST WANT TO LET US KNOW AND WE CAN, WELL, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
IT WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA CENTER, ON OUR WEBSITE AS A PLACE HOLDER, AS SOON AS KIM CAN FIND OUT FROM YOU AND THE APPLICANT, UM, WHEN THAT STEPS BEEN TAKEN.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US TO BE HERE AND IT IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO GET FIVE PEOPLE TOGETHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, ADD THIS WHEN WE'RE ALL WORKING.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO DO IT QUICKLY.
SO THE MEETING COULD BE PLACED A MONTH AHEAD OF TIME.
THE AGENDA WILL NOT GO OUT, UM, NO SOONER THAN, OR NO LATER THAN THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETINGS.
SO THAT IS JUST, STAFF HAS SO MUCH MORE TO DO AND IT'S GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
SO IN THAT RESIDENT CAN CLICK ON THE AGENDA CENTER AND SEE THE AGENDA.
THEY ACTUALLY CAN SEE THE PACKET.
SO PLEASE PLEASE KNOW THAT I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE OTHER THING I DO WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF ON OUR JANUARY AGENDA, WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UPDATES.
WE HAVE DONE IT PRETTY CONSISTENTLY.
MAYBE WE'VE MISSED A YEAR, MAYBE LAST YEAR, BUT PALMETTO BLUFF IS THE LAST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS, HAS PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY SIGN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE LONGEST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE HAVE AND THE LARGEST.
SO THEY ARE REQUIRED PER THE TERMS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
THE UPDATE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE NO ACTION TAKEN, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE JANUARY AGENDA.
AND IT'S USUALLY WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, HOW MANY HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT? WHAT'S THE TAX REVENUE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, WE GET TO MEET THE NEW PARTNERS.
SO THAT WILL BE ON JANUARY AGENDA, BUT PLEASE DO NOT GET THIS OUT ON NEXT DOOR LINK, WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE, PEOPLE GET ON.
WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION FROM TODAY.
THIS, THIS MAY NOT BE, THERE MAY NOT BE A DECISION MADE, WHO KNOWS.
UM, BUT THAT IS TRULY JUST AN UPDATE.
WE HAVE HAD A REALLY BIG OUTBREAK OF THIS VIRUS.
WE ARE RIGHT NOW AT 50% CAPACITY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONSISTENT.
AND I KNOW I HAD SOME COMMENTS AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING IS CONSISTENT AMONGST ALL COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.
NOW, IF IT GOES UP, GUYS, WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO WATCH OUT FOR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
SO KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON THAT ON OUR WEBSITE TO READ REGARDING ATTENDANCE.
WE DON'T EXPECT IT, BUT HE IS REALLY MONITORING IT.
SO, UM, AND IT'S HIS TOWN HALL.
SO HE GETS TO, I GET TO, I GET TO SET THE AGENDA AND STEVEN RUNS THINGS.
SO, UM, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY TO PUSH THIS OUT UNTIL THE MEETING, IS THERE ANYONE AGAINST THAT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FAULTS
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YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS MOMENT, CAROL, WE REALLY LOVE HAVING YOU HERE, UM, OF YOUR QUESTIONS YOU'VE ASKED.AND, UM, AMANDA, THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR CHAIR AS THIS AS WELL.
WE GET A LOT OF EMAILS FROM YOU GUYS.
AND, UM, MAYOR SAYS SHE ANSWERED 115 IN A FIGHT UNTIL YOU, I MAY ANSWER ONE OR TWO.
THE ONLY REASON I ANSWERED THOSE ONE TO TWO, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DIDN'T GO OUT TO EVERYONE ELSE.
HE WAS COME DIRECTLY TO ME, BUT SHE SPEAKS CLEARLY, UM, OUR THOUGHTS.
SO WHEN SHE, WHEN SHE RESPOND, I USE THAT AS DITTO.
AND I, AND I THINK COUNCIL ALL CAN RESPOND INDIVIDUALLY.
AND IF I NOTICED ONE RESPONDING, I MEAN, IT'S NO SENSE YOU GET IN THE SAME, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? OH, YES.
THAT'S JUST CLOGGING UP UP EMAILS, SO TO SPEAK.
I HAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYWAY, UM, WITH THAT, UM, WE WILL END THIS, THAT ITEM REALLY.
I FISHER G AND UM, DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
WE'LL LET STAFF WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE MEETINGS.
I'M SURE WE WILL ALL ALL HERE.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DO AGREE WITH, WITH, UM, I WANT TO SAY YOUR NAME RIGHT? MR. MARETTE HAVE TO READ WHAT I WROTE, BUT I STILL STAND BY IT.
WE ALL BELIEVE PALMETTO BLUFF IS A PLACE.
IT IS A PLACE, UM, THAT WE FEEL WELCOMED, UM, THAT WE CAN GO AND ENJOY AND REALLY GET A FEEL OF THE BEAUTY OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE, NOT JUST WEALTH IN TERMS OF MONEY, BUT THE WEALTH OF LOVE THAT.
SO MANY OF Y'ALL BRING TO THIS TOWN MAKES THE GROWTH OF THIS TOWN WORTHWHILE.
UM, SO I WILL SAY THAT AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN, A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
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