7. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 11.66 ACRES AT 100 RAWSTROM DRIVE (R600 009 000 0030 0000) FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO T2 RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD (T2RN); APPLICANT: BEN KENNEDY

[7. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 11.66 ACRES AT 100 RAWSTROM DRIVE (R600 009 000 0030 0000) FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO T2 RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD (T2RN); APPLICANT: BEN KENNEDY]

HAVE INTERESTS HERE AND I'M SURE NO I'M INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. FIRST ACTION ITEM ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REZONING REQUEST FOR ELEVEN POINT SIX SIX ACRES AT ONE HUNDRED ROSTRUM DRIVE FROM T TO RURAL TO THE T TO RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD APPLICANTS BEN KENNEDY REMAINS CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HAPPY NEW YEAR FIRST AID MONEY AGENDA IS AS YOU MENTIONED YOU RECEIVED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF 1 HUNDREDS OF ROSTRUM DRIVE FROM T TO HURL TO TEACH YOU WILL EVER PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY ELEVEN POINT SIX ACRES AND YOU CAN SEE A MAP HERE IT IS THIS PROPERTY WITH THE LONG ACCESS LANE.

THANK YOU. THE MAP OF THE TOP SHOWS THE 70S WHERE ALL INCOME IS REQUESTED. 72 YEAR OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS LOCATED ON DAILY MAIL ROADS. IT ALSO SITS RIGHT NEXT TO ROOM CRITICAL LANDS PROPERTY.

THE ULTIMATE PROPERTY WHICH IS THAT LIGHT GREEN PROPERTY IS RIGHT OVER THERE.

THIS IS OK. HERE'S ANOTHER HALF. YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE DRONE FOOTAGE OF YOURS AND OTHER HAS A MAP GIVING YOU SOME CONTEXT OF WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. SC 170 IS AT THE VERY TOP THAT THERE IS A PORTION OF JASPER COUNTY THAT DIPS IN ON OUR SIDE OF 170. GO ON THE NEXT ONE WE HAD ASKED

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TO HAVE SOME DRONE FLIPPED TO THE PROPERTY JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS IS I BELIEVE THIS WAS TAKEN FROM ULTIMA SITE. JUST KIND OF LOOKING OVER AT THE PROPERTY. THEY CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA. IT'S VERY RURAL AND IT SITS ON

THE OKATIE RIVER. >> I BELIEVE THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE OLD SAMAR SITE TOWARDS

THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. >> WE'RE LOOKING AT ULTIMATE HERE.

THIS IS LOOKING FROM ALSO FROM MULTIPLE PROPERTY ON TO SEE IF THERE WERE PART OF IT.

WE LOOKING AT THE PART CLOSEST TO THE TO THE MARSH. OKAY.

SO THIS VERY THE VERY BOTTOM TIP OF THE MAP. >> AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S LOW IN IRAN. OUR SOURCE OF OKATIE I THINK IS A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY JUST FROM FROM THIS FOOTAGE. SO IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRENT SERVING TEA TO ALL IS BASICALLY PRIMARILY A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IT ALLOWS ONE TO ONE UNIT FOR THREE ACRES SO ON AN ELEVEN POINT SIX SIX ACRE PROPERTY THAT WOULD THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE THAT DIVIDED INTO THREE LOTS. THE REQUESTS CONCERNING TEA TO RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALLOWS ONE POINT TO TWELVE YEARS FOR ACRE AND IF YOU DO THE MATH THAT ALLOWS 13 MONTHS ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE GROSS ACREAGE GIVEN IT HAS LONG ACCESS IT MAY OR MAY NOT YIELD THAT MANY LOTS BUT THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THAT ZUMA DISTRICT 1 IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE T2 WORLD NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT HAS VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR HOW ITS FINDS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP WE JUST PACKED UP HERE. IT'S ONLY MAP OF THE PROPERTY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME DARK GREEN LOTS THERE BUT THEY'RE KIND OF SCATTERED AROUND IN. THE REASON THAT IS IS THAT THAT DISTRICT IS DEFINED BY ANYWHERE WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING LOTS OF RECORD THAT ARE FIVE ACRES OR LESS IN CLUSTERS OF FIVE OR MORE PARCELS INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THAT

DISTRICT. >> BECAUSE IT'S MEANT TO APPLY TO LOTS OF RECORD AND IT WAS CREATED TO ALLOW SOME GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR SMALL PROPERTIES IN A RURAL AREA THAT

DIDN'T DISADVANTAGE EITHER THE 1 4 3 ZONING DENSITY. >> SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT IS PLANNING STAFF. WE WOULD NOT LOOK FAVORABLY ON THIS THIS REZONING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE DISTRICT. WE DID REALLY THIS THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANTED TO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO GO THROUGH THE RESERVING PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHERE TODAY IT'S OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS DENIAL BASED ON THE DEFINITION DISTRICT AND THE CRITERIA. ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IF WE DID ALLOW THIS REZONING IT WOULD REALLY SET A PRECEDENT THAT ANY RURAL PROPERTY WOULD BE RECEPTIVE TO TEACH YOU OR NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WOULD HAVE REAL RIPPLE EFFECTS IN OUR RURAL AREAS. I THINK IT REALLY UNDERMINED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO FOR PARTS OF THIS COUNTY. SO THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS. IS THIS IN ANY FORM BY ZONING

YES OR NO? >> IF YES OR NO, WE'VE PUT PROJECTS DOWN BECAUSE OF SPOTLIGHTING TO A QUESTION THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO IS A PASSIVE.

OKAY HERE AND SEE THAT OTHER CRITERIA. ANOTHER I UNDERSTAND THERE'S OTHER CRITERIA. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE PUT THAT MAP BACK AGAIN

THAT SHOWS BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS. >> YEAH THAT ONE THAT ONE'S FINE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP IN GENERAL NOT THE PD OR WHATEVER

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I GUESS IT'S BACK UP IN THERE WHATEVER THAT IS. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LOTS AND

THERE NOT JUST A FEW THAT ARE SMALLER THAN YEAH. >> IN A LOT OF WHAT I COUNT ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE JUST ADJACENT TO TO THAT.

SO I'M I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT MAKE IT CLEAR. YEAH.

>> SOME OF THOSE EIGHT AND SUBDIVIDED AFTER THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WAS CREATED WHEN IT WAS CREATED . THE IDEAS THAT APPLY TO LOTS OF RECORDS OF ANY USE SUBDIVISION CREATED EVEN USING A RURAL ZONING IT MAY RESULT IN SOME SMALL LOSS CRITERIA.

>> SO THE DARK GREEN IS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT. YES.

NOW THAT'S THAT'S TRUE TO OUR T TO R N SUBSEQUENT TO THE REZONING PROCESS.

>> YES. SO. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR TWO AND THEIR ADJACENT TO THAT. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LIKE ARRANGEMENTS THAT ARE THERE? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEY THEY MAY HAVE GONE TO T TO PERIOD GREEN. WELL JUST LIKE ON THE PANHANDLE WE'LL SAY ON THE RIGHT THE WAY THAT WAY. I DROVE THE PROPERTY AND IT IS RULE AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

BUT THERE'S A THERE'S A BIG MIX IN THERE. YES.

YEAH. IT'S NOT ALL THAT WELL YOU KNOW ONE PER FIVE ACRES THAT ONE PER THREE. ALL RIGHT. A LOT OF THIS PROPERTY WAS FAMILY PROPERTY AND IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY OLD COMMUNITY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE AUDIO?

>> I CAN'T SEE THEM. YEAH. >> I'M ED, CAN YOU HEAR ME, EVAN? YES. YEAH.

>> BESIDES THE ONE POINT TWO UNITS PER ACRE THAT THEY WOULD GET IN A RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHAT ELSE COULD HE PUT IN THERE? WELL, ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF USES TO TEACH YOUR OLD NEIGHBOR THE DISTRICT HAS FEWER OPTIONS THAT TEACH WORLD TEACH YOUR WORLD KIND OF HAS A LOT OF VERY RURAL USES SUCH AS AGRICULTURE WHICH THAT WOULD BE PREVENTED.

>> IT ALLOWS SIMPLY EXPORT INDUSTRIES. SO IT REALLY DOESN'T OPEN DOORS TO NEW USES THAT WE HAVE IN IT'S THE MAIN IMPACT WOULD BE A GREATER NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL

LOTS. >> THAT'S THE CONCERN I KNOW BY DRIVE UP 170 ALMOST EVERY DAY AND YOU KNOW THE THOUGHT OF JUST PUTTING ANOTHER CAR ON THERE IS IT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT'S JUST UNTIL UNTIL A PLAN COMES UP FOR 170 THE MASTER PLAN WAS DRAWN THIS WAY FOR A

REASON AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT ONE CHANGE FOR 11 ACRES. >> YOU'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF ACRES FROM IT'S FROM RIGHT IN THIS LOCATION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 270.

I GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT. >> OK. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. >> WE'RE GREAT. HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS FROM THE

COMMISSIONERS. >> WE'RE READY TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> THE AFRICANS HERE. MICHAEL ECONOMIST CAN YOU HEAR ME?

YES. >> ARE YOU SENDING MR. KENNEDY? >> YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL. ECONOMISTS PRESIDENT KERRY ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS PARCEL UP TONIGHT HOPEFULLY REZONING AND WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND PROPERTY. I CAN'T SHOW YOU MY SCREEN BUT YOU HAVE A MAP OR CONCEPT AND CIRCULATION SITE THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.

THE OWNER, MR. KENNEDY, HIS GOAL AS PART OF THIS RIZZO'S IF YOU DO THE MATH REAL EASY

ELEVEN POINT SIX SIX ACRES IS JUST POINT THREE FOR SHY. >> TWELVE WHICH WOULD GIVE MR.

KENNEDY FOUR UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. >> MR. KENNEDY IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS, TWO MORE UNITS. NOW IF YOU FOLLOW ME A SECOND WITH THE MATH BASED ON THE ACCESS ROAD WHICH HE OWNS THE ROSTRUM ROAD A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE MAIN ACCESS AT BAILEY'S ROAD ALL THE WAY TO A COMMON DOCK WHICH IS PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY AND A COMMON CEMETERY WITH AN OPEN PARK PROPOSED WE EAT THREE POINT FIVE FIVE ACRES OF THE ELEVEN POINT SIX SIX ACRES LEAVING EIGHT POINT ONE ONE ACRES TO BE

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DEVELOPED IF YOU TOOK THE EIGHT POINT ONE ONE ACRES AND DIVIDED IT BY THE T TO OUR HEAD WHICH

IS THE ONLY ZONE WE COULD RESPOND TO. >> YOU'RE ALLOWED SIX OR EIGHT UNITS SO THE OWNER IS ASKING FOR SIX UNITS OR TWO MORE UNITS THEN IT'S WHAT ZONING FOR IT? WITH THAT BEING SAID WE HAVE 50 FOOT BUFFERS COMPLETELY AROUND THE PROPERTY.

THESE LOTS ARE AN ACRE AND A HALF EACH WHICH ARE EQUAL IN TOTALITY TO THE PROPERTY.

>> EVERY NEIGHBORING LOT IS LARGER ON THIS ROAD BY TWICE THE SIZE OF THE NEW PROPOSED LOTS. GUY AND EVERYONE'S OWNED BY A DIFFERENT SO THIS ISN'T A.

THIS IS NOT A FAMILY COMPOUND. >> ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT AS ROB EMERGENCY SAID FOR THE REZONING WHILE THE ZONING WAS DONE BEFOREHAND THAT SINCE THIS LOT WAS GREATER THAN 5 ACRES IT WAS PUT IN A TEACH YOU HOUR DESIGNATION RATHER TEACH YOU R N DESIGNATION FROM THE PREVIOUS

. >> SO THAT BEING SAID, MR. KENNEDY IS JUST LOOKING TO ADD

TWO MORE LOTS. >> KEEP A DIRT ROAD. KEEP IT A FAMILY KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD. PUT IN A DOC FOR THE COMMUNITY, PUT IN A DOC AND PUT PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX LOTS ON THE PROPERTY AND ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

>> WELL THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE QUESTIONS.

>> KEVIN FRANK, ANY QUESTIONS NOW? >> NOT FOR ME.

OK. THIS IS A POINT WHERE I WOULD OPEN UP FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. I MIGHT MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT ANNOUNCED FOR THAT IS THAT I'VE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST WEEK SIX DIFFERENT LETTERS IN DEPTH FROM VARIOUS RESIDENTS ON OUR NEAR RUSHED AND 100 ROSSUM OPPOSED TO VERY VOCIFEROUSLY OPPOSED TO THE FURTHER IN DEL ELEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AND INCREASING THE DENSITY AND SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY INTO ADDITIONAL LOT THOSE NAMES FROM THOSE PEOPLE FOR THE RECORD I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEIR LETTERS.

WE TAKE A WHILE TO READ ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE OVERSEA. IF I MISS A NAME OF SOMEONE WHO'S THAT I MENTIONED FROM THAT LIST THAT I MENTIONED PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE ADDRESS WHERE THEY ARE. YEAH I DO. MARK CLARK WAS ONE OF ONE OF THE PARTIES NANCY THOMAS ELIZABETH PUTMAN, CHARLENE SCHMUTZ AND BURGER GEORGE AND JULES SANDOZ. I RECEIVED LETTERS FROM THOSE FOLKS WHO WERE LIVE IN THE VICINITY OF ROSSUM DRIVE. I ALSO RECEIVED FROM AN ORGANIZATION A COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE A LETTER OF OBJECTION. ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD WANT TO SPEAK OUT ON THIS ISSUE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT? THIS WOULD BE A TIME, GUYS. I SAY COME UP AND ANNOUNCE YOURSELF AND PLEASE COMMIT TO

NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU MY FAST SO. >> I WOULD OFFER A SOMBER OR ELSE ARE BEGINNING TO LOOK ARE JUST THREE ACRES AND A NEIGHBOR.

THE SECOND ONE ON THE RIGHT IS VERY IT'S PRETTY RURAL THROUGH THE AREA WITH THIS ABILITY TO

TOP RIGHT TOP RIGHT. >> OF THE YELLOW. YEAH, OK.

>> I WAS THEY HAD A ROW. SO THEY'VE GOT HALF ACRES ON THAT LARGE PORTION THAT IS ON THAT ROAD THAT'S THE PATTERN DOWN. SO IT CUTS OFF TO THE SIDE.

IT WAS MEANT TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT'S A DIRT ROAD NOW I THINK YOU SAW THOSE HOUSES AND HAD AT LEAST COUPLE CARS. WE'D LIKE TO NOT SEE MY

NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN. >> GERTRUDE. PERSONALLY I JUST WANTED TO SHIPS IN IT. BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS FEDERAL BARK BEETLE SEWAGE. I'M THE FIVE GENERATION COUNTY RESIDENT OF THIS AREA AND I LIVE CHECHESSEE RIVER AROUND THE CORNER FROM HERE.

I CAN'T SEE IT ON THE MAP BUT I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT THE CONSERVATION STATUS IN THE

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AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S AWARE OF THIS BUT IF YOU GO SOUTH IN THE OKATIE RIVER JUST OFF THE MAP TO YOUR LEFT IS WHERE CHARLA WAS CUT.

IS IT CUTS BACK AROUND THE CATWALKS OUT PRESENTLY RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANTED TO PICK OYSTERS IN THAT AREA. IT'S CLOSED. THEY ARE POLLUTED THERE.

THERE'S BRIGHT YELLOW SIDE RED RIDING ON THEIR BASICALLY SAY YOU CAN'T HARVEST SHELLFISH IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE RUNOFF PRIMARILY FROM THE GOLF COURSES AND THE HOUSES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE AREA. SO I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SAY IS I WOULD HATE TO SEE MORE DENSITY IN THAT AREA. IT'S ALREADY HAS A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON CONSERVATION OF THE WETLANDS AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THE OYSTER BEDS BETWEEN THIS LOCATION AND BACK AROUND TO THE BEACH CHECHESSEE A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN CLOSED BY DNR ALREADY BECAUSE OF FECAL MATTER FOUND IN THE OYSTER BEDS AND MORE HOUSES TO MAKE THAT WORSE FERTILIZER.

AND THE OTHER STUFF. SO FROM A CONSERVATION STANDPOINT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT NOT GO THROUGH. AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I THINK THIS OPENS UP A CAN OF WORMS FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THIS IN THIS AREA AND MOVE IT OUT OF T2, ARE YOU TO DO THAT OTHER AREAS IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I THINK IT'S AS MAN. HE'S TERRIFYING HIMSELF.

MY NAME'S MICHELLE. I ALSO LIVE ON ROSTRUM. I LIVE IN THE THIRD.

I 2 ACRES. AND OUR CONCERN IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD AS WELL. IT IS MAINTAINED BY THE STATE. THEY COME INTEGRATED.

IT MAKES THE ROAD VERY ROUGH AND THEN HAVING ALL THAT TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.

PLUS THE WE HAVE CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN. AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO DEVELOPING ALL THOSE HOUSES THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM. SO WE'RE FULLY AGAINST ALL OF THAT.

THANK YOU. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK JESSE NAME? CAN WE ARE CLARIFY WITH THIS MY MASK ON. I CAN HEAR YOU OK.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE OFFICE OF CONSERVATION LEAGUE. MY NAME IS JESSE WHITE POLICE OFFICER.

AFTER WE ASK THE COMMISSION TO DENY THIS REQUEST FOR REZONING AS LAID OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT. IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE 2014 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH DESIGNATED THIS PORTION AS REMAINING RURAL IN NATURE. ALLOWING THE REZONING REQUEST WOULD AMOUNT TO A THREEFOLD INCREASE IN DENSITY FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY PERMITTED.

ALSO IT'S CLEARLY ARTICULATED BY STAFF. THE CLASSES IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE INTENT OF THE CHEAT TO ROLL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH IS EXPRESSLY INTENDED FOR EXISTING CLUSTER COMMUNITIES IN RURAL AREAS AND NOT INTENDED TO PROMOTE TRACK DEVELOPMENT OR REZONING.

MOREOVER, THIS REZONING REZONING INDIVIDUAL PARCEL ESTABLISH A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT AND OPEN THE DOOR TO SUBSEQUENT REZONING. ANY TEACH YOU ARE PROPERTIES IN THE COUNTY. THIS WOULD FURTHER ERODE AND STRAIN OUR RURAL AREAS AND SPRAWL AND THREATEN CRITICAL NATIONAL RESOURCES IF ALLOWED IT WOULD COMPLETELY UNDERMINE THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF TEACH YOU RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS ZONING DISTRICTS UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT MIGHT HAVE A SUITABLE PLAN AND VERY FOR THE AREA.

IT OPENS THE DOOR TO ALL OTHER TEACHERS WHO ARE PROPERTIES AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS A COUNTY TO HOLD THOSE RURAL BOUNDARIES AND IT'S A CORE THEME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN . IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO MINIMIZE THE STRAIN ON SCHOOLS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AND TO HELP PROTECT WATER QUALITY AND SAFETY AND QUALITY IN RIVERS.

THE CURRENT ZONING AND FEATURE LAND DESIGNATIONS ARE PRACTICALLY FULLY AGREE WITH PLANNING THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN PLACE AND THIS REZONING SHOULD BE DENIED.

LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO OFFER OUR FULL SUPPORT FOR TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THE GREEN LIGHT GREEN PLAN AND THE DAMS ANY REQUEST FOR THE WRONG LANDS PROPERTY TO LAND

NATURAL PRESERVE. >> THANK YOU JESSE. THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HAYLEY SMITH AND I TOO LIVE AT THE THIRD LAW ON RUSSIA. I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 15 YEARS.

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MY PARENTS ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. IT IS A ONE WAY ROAD FORMALLY AND INFORMALLY IF WE PUT MORE HOUSES AT THE END OF IT. WHY THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC AND THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS DOWN THE ROAD. I HAVE 2 4 YEAR OLDS PERSON CHELSEA TWO YOUNG GIRLS AND WITH THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT 1 THE SPACE FOR THE CARS DOWN THE ROADS AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND HOW FAST PEOPLE GO. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ISSUE THERE.

ANYWAYS, I WAS SEES DENY IT. IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN THE ROAD YOU SEEN HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.

YOU SEE THAT IT'S NOT DEVELOPMENTS AND PROPERTIES EVERY HALF ACRE.

YOU SEE THAT THERE'S SPACE WE HAVE TO STOP. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK THERE AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT AND SO WE ASK THESE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SEE NONE. BACK UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION FOR ROB? I GUESS I WASN'T QUICK ENOUGH TO DO THE MATH WHEN THE APPLICANT RAN THE MATH, BUT THE APPLICANT I THINK SAID THIS WOULD ONLY THEY HAVE FOUR ARE PERMITTED UNDER CURRENT ZONING AND THIS IS AN ADDITION TO PUT IN YOUR COMMENTS AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONLY THREE WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER CURRENT ZONING IS CORRECT. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN SO.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE TWELVE ACRES. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

OKAY. YOU HEARD. >> AND IT ISN'T TWELVE.

ELEVEN POINT SIX. OTHER COMMENTS. I.

I SYMPATHIZE WITH WHAT THE LOCALS I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM BECAUSE I'VE LIVED ON RURAL ROADS ALSO AND RAISE KIDS AS WELL. WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO OR THREE HOUSES THAT WERE GOT ANOTHER MATTER IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT FOR A COUPLE OF HUNDRED HOUSES THAT'S TRAFFIC IN A RURAL AREA.

BY THE NATURE YOU GO SLOWER AND YOU BECOME A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND I DON'T FEEL THAT T2 ARE IN IS FAR OFF HERE. IT'S NOT A LARGE TRACT OF LAND. IT'S NOT LARGE A DEVELOPMENT I SEE GREEN NEXT TO IT SO THERE'S OTHER ZONING ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TROUBLE BECAUSE WE TURNED DOWN IF THERE WASN'T ANY T TO R N ADJACENT TO IT.

I'D SAY NO A MINUTE BECAUSE THAT SPOT ZONING AND WE DON'T DO THAT BUT THIS IS NOT SPOT ZONING SO IS A LITTLE BREAK. I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THINKING ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONERS HANK.

>> I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE I AND HE WOULD RANDOLPH WAS SAYING NOBODY PRESENTED THIS AS SPOTS ONLY NOBODY CALLED IT SPOT ZONING. IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION IF IT WAS WANTED THE DESTRUCTION WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER 20 MINUTES.

THE ISSUE HERE IS IT WAS YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S ONE HERE, TWO HERE, THREE TO GO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY . IT'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND MAKING A CHANGE LIKE THIS IS NOT ADDING 1 OR 2. YOU'RE GOING TO ADD HUNDREDS TO THAT NUMBER HUNDREDS BECAUSE HOW MANY LOTS ARE BIGGER THAN 5 ACRES BETWEEN HERE AND 278. AND THAT'S HOW MANY APPLICATIONS YOU'RE GOING TO GET. SO YOU KNOW, THIS AREA UP HERE IS STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT. ONE SEVENTY I MEAN GOD ALREADY KNOW PEOPLE THINK IT'S A HIGHWAY. IT'S NOT A HIGHWAY TO LOCAL ROAD ANYMORE.

>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO OFFER A COMMENT. I'M IN A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE RANDOLPH ON THIS ISSUE. I'VE DRIVEN THE PROPERTY. I KNOW THE TREMENDOUS CONSERVATION NEEDS FOR THAT PROPERTY. AS IT REACHES OUT TO THE OKATIE YOU WERE THE COUNTY SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TRYING TO PROTECT THE OKATIE BY BUYING PROPERTY THROUGH THE WRONG CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION BOARD TO ENSURE THAT THE WATER ISN'T FURTHER POLLUTED OR DAMAGE FROM ITS CURRENT STATE. I EVIDENCE THE PLEAS OF AT LEAST A DOZEN RESIDENTS WHO WERE EITHER WRITTEN OR SPOKEN REGARDING THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY LIVE THERE SURROUND ROUND THIS PROPERTY AND THEN NEED TO REMAIN MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY IN

ITS CURRENT STATE. >> IN TERMS OF ZONING I ALSO NOTE THE PRECEDENT SETTING THAT THIS COULD ESTABLISH ON ALL ROAD PROPERTIES AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR

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PROPERTY IN ORDER DECREASE THE DENSITY AND FURTHER DEVELOPMENT .

I'M NOT READY AND WOULD NOT RECOMMEND MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AT ALL FOR THESE REASONS AND FOR THE THEN THE FINAL REASON BEING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO NOT APPROVE THIS. I'M VOTING AGAINST THIS APPLICATION.

BUT THAT SAID, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

PLEASE. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE THIS APPLICATION OR AN UP OWNING FROM RURAL TO ARE THE WORLD TO TWO R AND B DENIED THE SECOND THAT THE SECOND GAL AND IF

FURTHER COMMENTS HEARING NONE. >> I'D LIKE TO VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. >> ON 2 3 4 5. ALL RIGHT.

AND THOSE OPPOSED. ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE REZONING IS

DID. >> MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE WHO ARE TENURED ON THIS ISSUE. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA

[8. OSPREY POINT (MALIND BLUFF) PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD) MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT TO 17.2 ACRES (R600 013 000 0495 0000) TO REPLACE 207,700 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH 206 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS; APPLICANT: ROBERT DEEB]

DEALS WITH US WOULD BE POINT IS KNOWN AS MALE INVOLVED WITH THIS POINT THREE FOR MY UNIT DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT. THIS BRINGS THE QUESTION WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY TO SEVENTEEN POINT TWO ACRES TO REPLACE 27000 700 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH 200 AND IT SAYS 26. BUT THE APPLICATION REACHED TO ART FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS APPLICANT ROBERT DB STAFFER FOR I HAVE JOSH TILLER'S NAME ON HERE. HAWKINS PROJECT. OK.

HE'S INVOLVED IN OTHER PARTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS MATH, WE HAVE KIND OF A ROTATION MAP. THIS IS ON THE 170 CORRIDOR GOING FORWARD FROM 278 AND ON THE LAST YEAR YOU COULD SEE WHERE A FIELD IS RIVER STANDS.

THIS IS SOUTH. COULD THERE BE A LITTLE. THIS IS A PLANNED JUNIOR DEVELOPMENT. THAT WAS APPROVED GOING BACK TO 2008 BY COUNTY COUNCIL AT LEAST 57 RURAL BACK THEN. THIS DEVELOPMENT ALONG WITH OKATIE AND RIVERBOATS OF EIGHT MEN, THREE TOGETHER IN 73 AT THE TIME. JUST BACKGROUND THESE THREE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE INTERCONNECT. AND THE MIXED USE COMMUNITY WAS A MIX HOUSING TYPES IN COMMERCIAL. AND SINCE THAT TIME OF COURSE THE GREAT RECESSION HIT THE NORTHERN MOST OF THE THREE COMMUNITIES WAS PURCHASED BY THE COUNTY AND THAT'S NOW COUNTY PROPERTY WITH THE FRONT PORTION BEING THE THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND SO NOW WE'RE LEFT WITH AT THE TIME WAS CALLED BREAK POINT ANNOUNCED A NEIGHBORHOOD LOVE AND RIVER OAKS MAITLAND BLUFF WAS THEN A CEMENTED IN 2014 TO TO CHANGE FROM A MIXED USE. EXHALES HELMET TO THE FRONT 17 POINT TWO ACRES BEING COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE BEING SINGLE FAMILY HEALTH HOUSING

AND SO ON WAS ALSO MODIFIED IN 2019. >> THAT'S THE CURRENT TBD NOW HAS THREE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THAT FRONT SEVENTEEN POINT TWO ACRES IS APPROVED FOR TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT COMMUNITY AS IT IS IN ESSENCE APPROVAL THAT WAS PURCHASED BY PULTE HOMES AND THEY'VE BEEN DEVELOPING RESIDENTIAL.

THIS MAP HERE KIND OF SHOWS A COMPARISON. SO THE EXISTING MASTERPLAN ONCE APPROVED TODAY IS TO SEVEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BEING THE PLAN NEEDED DEVELOPMENT THEY ADOPT MASTER PLAN WHICH IS THE LOCATION OF BUILDINGS AND STREETS. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS TO DO AWAY WITH THE TWO HUNDRED SEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND REPLACE TWO HUNDREDS FOR MULTI-FAMILY

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RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SO IT'S KIND OF A STRAIGHT FORWARD MASTERPLAN CHANGE AND ACCESS TO THE SITE. THE ONLY CHANGE HERE BOTH OF THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED CALL FOR A PARALLEL ROADS TO 170 THAT CONNECTS PREACHER POINT ROAD TO THE ENTRANCE TO MAIL AND BLUFF AND THAT REMAINS AND THAT KIND OF EITHER DIVIDER BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY PORTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY PERSON. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS NEW PROPOSAL IS IT DOES AWAY WITH A WRITE IN RIGHT OUT ACCESS THAT IS LOCATED HALFWAY BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTRANCE POINTS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY IS DONE FOR BEAUTY AND SO IN COMPARING THE TWO. TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL TO TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS ACTUALLY REDUCTION BASED ON THE ARMS MANUAL THE TRAFFIC GENERATION OF THOSE USES. SO WE'RE LOOKING ROUGHLY AT SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY ONE PEAK HOUR TRIPS ONCE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS DEVELOPED COMPARED TO WITH THE TWO HUNDRED FOR MULTIFAMILY. THAT'S THAT'S 90 TRIM.

SO THERE'S A THERE'S A REDUCTION IN THE TRAFFIC GENERATION.

ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT ANY INTERNAL TRIP CAPTURES SOME OF THE FIRST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE AND PEOPLE RIVER OAKS OR VAIL BLUFF WHERE TO USE YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A GROCERY STORE, WHATEVER THAT IS THAT WOULD TAKE TRAFFIC OFF OF 170.

BUT THAT'S NO LONGER GOING TO OCCUR. IF THAT IF THAT COMMERCIAL DISPLAY SO BIG. EITHER WAY, THE NET RESULT IS CHANGE OF THE MASTER PLAN.

STILL NOT TRIGGERING THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN SA POSITION.

IT'S NOT GOING TO RESULT IN MORE TRAFFIC GENERATION THAN WHAT'S ALREADY APPROVED.

THE APPLICANT IS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING FAMILY HOUSING. THEY HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN DOING A AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH DOING A TAX CREDIT PROJECT WHICH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHICH SUPERINTENDENT AND ONE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE INDICATED SUPPORT FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING THIS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF TEACHERS IN FINDING HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE IN THE AREA.

SO BEING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT THAN IF THIS WERE SIMPLY MARKET RATE HOUSING. BUT IN ANNAPOLIS TOO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS STAFF COMMENTS. OTHERWISE I THINK THE MURAL FAMILIAR WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA OKATIE ELEMENTARY IS AT CAPACITY SO ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IS FURTHER IT PUTS STRESS ON THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ALSO ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD FEED INTO. SO AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TYPICALLY THEY WOULD BE IN OPPOSITION OR BE CONCERNED ABOUT CAPACITY IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'VE EXPRESSED SUPPORT BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS FAR AS STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THERE ARE FOUR THINGS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH FOUR CONDITIONS. THE FIRST IS THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS VERY SPECIFIC SITE PLANNING STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE PLANNING ELEMENTS THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE FOR INNOVATIVE SITE PLANNING AND WHAT I SEE HERE WITH THE MULTIFAMILY IS YOUR TYPICAL APARTMENT COMPLEX. IF THEY FALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR CODE IT WOULD MEAN THAT THESE NEED TO BE BUILT AROUND STREETS AND BLOCKS WITH PARKING AT THE SIDE OF REAR BUILDINGS.

I'D HAVE INDICATED TO THE APPLICANT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO DEVELOPMENTS . AND SO IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD WE WOULD REQUEST TO SPEED THIS MASTERPLAN BEING MODIFIED TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AND ALSO IF THEY ARE GOING TO AMANDA PUBERTY AND THIS PUBERTY IS ALSO A COMPANY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. THE DEFENSE THE INTENT OF THE THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE WOULD LIKE THAT SOLIDIFIED IN THE

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DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THEN THAT SUPPORTS GETTING FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IF THIS WERE MARKET RATES, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT

THEY'RE SUPPORTED. >> IN ADDITION, THE EXISTING COMMUNITY HAS THE DEDICATION OF ONE HALF ACRE PARCEL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY WHETHER ITS SHARE OF FIRE HE AMASSED.

I'VE SEEN NOTHING ON THIS PROPOSED MASTER PLAN THAT MENTIONS THAT AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REMAIN UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE NEED TO MODIFY BIG ENOUGH TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW IT IS IT BLOCKS INTO THE EXISTING PERSON FOR STAFF CONDITIONS WITHOUT A TENANT QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION. SIR, I SHOULD. SHOULDN'T WE BE WAITING UNTIL I MEAN YOU'RE PUTTING ADDING WHAT THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE. SHOULDN'T WE BE WAITING TILL THOSE FLAWED THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE ROB IN THE PLAN? WELL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TWO OPTIONS. ONE IS TWO. YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION TO DELAY ACTION FOR 30 DAYS SO THAT THAT'S ONE OPTION OR THE OTHER WOULD BE TO ATTACH THESE CONDITIONS. REQUEST THAT THEY BE MADE OR THAT PART OF THE RECORD WHEN IT

GOES TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE COUNTY COUNCIL. >> ONE MORE CAR.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL BE IN THERE? DID THEY DID HALTING STATE THAT OR IS THIS IS NOT A FAULTY PROJECT? SORRY.

YEAH, I'M SORRY. YEAH I THINK THEY CAN SHED LIGHT ON THAT.

>> AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION. >> I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION. YOU SAID THAT A SCHOOL SUPPORT BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION OF TAX CREDITS AND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE LOOK MORE FAVORABLY ON THIS AS ANYBODY FROM THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK

TO THAT ISSUE. >> WELL, I WONDER IF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT CONCERNS ME.

I'VE EITHER LIKED TO BE PART OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE HOUSES WOULD BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THIS BENEFIT FOR COUNTY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE TALKING 10 20 PERCENT SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20, 30, 40 HOMES THAT COULD PUT A DENT INTO THE NEEDS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A DENT EFFECT. IT'S INSULTING THAT THEY'D WANT TO PUT UP ALL OF THESE HOMES WITHOUT THAT CONSIDER FURTHER CONSIDERATION OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO I'M LOOKING HARD AT THAT ISSUE. >> EXCUSE ME.

I THINK I'VE SAID THAT ON MANY OTHER COMMENTS. I NOTE YOUR CONDITIONS AND I DO AGREE WITH FRANK THAT THAT NUMBER OF CONDITIONS WITHOUT KNOWING SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE INTENT IS OR WHAT OTHER RESPONSE TO THOSE CONDITIONS PUTS ME AT A DISADVANTAGE FOR KNOWING WHETHER I SHOULD PROVE THIS. I CAN'T ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT. SO I NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT FROM THE APPLICANT AS TO WHETHER THOSE CONDITIONS CAN BE MET THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE ARTICLE TO DIVISION TO FIGHT FOR THE CLEAN DEVELOPMENT CODE IS PRETTY THOROUGH AND NOTES ABOUT THAT THOROUGHFARE NETWORK THE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION PARKING STANDARDS SERVICE AREA BUILDING CONFIGURATION A LOT OF THINGS THERE THAT I DON'T SEE HERE BEING ADDRESSED. AND AGAIN THE AFFORDABILITY IS A 10 PERCENT, 20 PERCENT, 100 PERCENT BIG DIFFERENCE. BIG DIFFERENCE I UNDERSTANDING IT'S 100 PERCENT THAT I WOULD

RATHER SPEAKS. >> I ALSO NOTE THAT ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING QUALM IS FOUND IN ARTICLE 4 SECTION 4 POINT ONE POINT THIRTY FIVE OH GEE THERE ARE SIGNIFY SOME LITTLE REQUIREMENTS AND PROCEDURES AND ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES THAT NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO BASED ON THE CODE AND NOT TOO LONG AGO HERE TO GO.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE RESPONSE TO THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANSWERS TO OR DON'T SEE IN THE APPLICATION. >> I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT NO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND WHEN THIS MASTER PLAN FOR APD WAS PUT TOGETHER SOME 15 YEARS AGO YOU INDICATED THERE WAS A BIG UNDERSTANDING

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THERE THAT WAS GOING TO SELF-CONTAINED COMMUNITY. THIS WAS GOING TO HAVE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COULD WALK TO SHOPPING FACILITIES AND THEY COULD WOULDN'T BE REQUIRE A LOT OF TRIPS OUT ON THE HIGHWAY WHICH WAS A CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE 170 IS A NARROW CAR OF IT'S INCREASINGLY BECOMING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. BETWEEN THE LEMON ISLAND BRIDGE AND 278 AND EXTENSIVELY DEVELOPED PROPERTY, EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY, A MAJOR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS UP FOR SALE AND AS WELL. WE HAVE JASPER COUNTY PUTTING THAT UP AND DOWN ARGENT BOULEVARD. LITERALLY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOMES GOING IN. IT'S BECOMING NIGHTMARISH FOR TRAFFIC AND THE ACCIDENTS ARE INCREASING. SO I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF CONCERNS HERE ABOUT INCREASING DENSITY IN HOMES WITHOUT A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT ADDRESSES THE POINT YOU MENTIONED THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED AS THAT IS WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT OF TAKING AWAY THAT INTERIOR SHOPPING CAPABILITY AND PUTTING UP TO IT FOR THINGS. MY COMMENTS TO YOU WITH THAT IN MIND.

I AM HOPEFUL THAT THE APPLICANT WHO IS HERE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

WE GET ANOTHER CRACK AT THE RIGHT. YES.

DOES THE APPLICANT HEAR HIMSELF MOST GERMANS OF THE REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER OVER HERE.

>> WE ARE DEVELOPMENT AND THE PRINCIPLES AS MATTER. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THE DEVELOPER HERE HAVE DONE NUMEROUS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS BOTH IN INDIA AND EXISTING HERE. YOUR BEYOND FOR COMMENTATORS MAYBE FOR A VILLAGE JUST OUTSIDE LOFTED AND THERE'S TWO MORE THERE PENDING HERE BEFORE COUNTY. ALONG WITH THIS OVER HERE MAYBE KNOWLEDGE ISN'T.

IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESSFUL 4000 DEVELOPMENT ON ROMPER ROAD AND IF I GIVE YOU YOU'RE FINE WITH SHOWING THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT SO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE HIGH END DEVELOPMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT MEANS ALL FEDERAL CRITERIA

TO MEET THE STATE CRITERIA. >> SO YOU'VE GOT A HISTORY OF PULL OFF WITH A PROMISE TO EXPECT. THIS IS A DOWN ZONE AND I IMAGINE.

SOUNDS ABOUT TRAFFIC BUT IT'S THE WAY IT'S TO AVERAGE AMERICANS.

DAVID, IS THAT COMMERCIAL? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE PRESENTLY TWO HUNDRED AND SIX AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT I GUARANTEE YOU'LL BE AT LEAST 50 PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING 60 HENDRICKS EXCLUSIVE.

AT LEAST IF NOT MORE THAN WE DID IN TWO PHASES. THE FIRST PHASE BE APPROXIMATELY HALF THE TWO HUNDRED SIX AND THE HUNDRED AND THREE HUNDRED UNITS ALL OF WHICH LEAVE HOUSING. THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR TAX CREDITS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS VERY COMPLICATED SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE MIX WILL BE IN THE SECOND PHASE OF THE FIRST DAYS WILL BE ALL RIGHT AND THEN OBVIOUS YOU KNOW IT'S BASED IN INCOME COUNTY WHETHER IT'S 60 PRESENTS OR UNDER 80 PERCENT SAID YES. SO THAT WILL BE THE 10 PERCENT OR 20 PERCENT IT'LL BE OVER 60 PERCENT OF DEVELOPMENT AND MAYBE SO A PROMISE THAT BUT WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT RIGHT NOW THE STATE STAFF, MR. MERCHANT SAID THERE'S A CERTAIN WAYS YOU CAN COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT.

SO IT BOTHERED ME THAT AT A LATER TIME AS TO THE EXACT MIX DEPENDING ON WHAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS GIVES US, WHAT WE WHAT WE KNOW IS SUBTERRANEAN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FOR A SITE PLANS STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WE'RE KIND OF GRANDFATHERED IN. WE BELIEVE ANYWAY UNDER THE PD IT WAS FIRST STARTED 2008 AND AUGMENTED BACK AMENDMENT 2011 WAS PUNY SO IT'S AS A WHOLE AND TO SEGMENT THIS DIFFERENTLY AND MAKE THIS CONFORM TO THE TO THE CURRENT PLAN TO THE CURRENCY.

THIS REPORT DOES ALLOW US THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER THESE UNITS LIKE IN OTHER WORDS THE BUILDER IN OUR LAND WANTED TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TO MOVE UP THE BUILDING SO YOU

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HAVE ALLEYWAYS AND ROADWAYS BEHIND THEM. MARK RAISED SAYS MARK WITH THE 17 ACRE RECTANGULAR PARCEL WE CAN DO SOME AROUND THE RIBAUT DISTRICTS AS TO HOW THE BUILDINGS THERE AND THERE ARE SOME PLANS WHICH WHICH WE CAN SHOW YOU THIS DRAMATIC IT WILL SHOW THAT WE NEED SOME RELIEF FROM THAT. IT'S YOUR CONCERNS THAT THE COUNTY HAS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS REALLY THAT NEED TO BE MENDED BECAUSE THIS OPPORTUNITY IS PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT. AND OTHERWISE ALWAYS THE GUARANTEE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YES, WE WE ARE DOING IT FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT DUE TO BE 6 PERCENT.

WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE DOWNSIDE AND SHOULD BE APPROVED AT THIS POINT.

MAYBE SOME GOOD CONDITIONS THAT YOU REVISIT REGARDING AGAIN THE SITE DEVELOPMENT CLASS AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A SIR ERIC WHILE SOME OF HIS PARTNERS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE PLANS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF GROUND COFFEE BUT BECOMES THE PLAN AS WELL. THEN THERE IS THIS LAND THAT IS BASED ITS CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN AND VERY IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO SEE UPSIDE DOWN FOR YOU AT THIS TIME OF DAY. HE ASKED. RIGHT.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS EVERYTHING. THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE.

IT'S NOT THAT SO CONCEPTUAL BACKED BY AIR QUALITY WHICH WITH WILLING PARTNERS WE'RE LAND PLANNERS, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS TELL THEM YOU WORK WITH DAVID ON SEVERAL PROJECTS THE DEVELOPER AND THIS CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN LET'S FALL THE CSO CAME OUT AT THE TARGET IN THIS PLAN WE GET 260 UNITS AND IF WE WE DID DO SOME SKETCHES IN-HOUSE JUST TO SEE WHAT FOR BASE CODE WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THIS DIFFICULT SITE BETWEEN THE WETLANDS IT'S SQUASH AND BRETT FAVRE WITH MORE BASE CODE . YOU HAVE STREET SCAPE WITH PARALLEL PARKING TREES, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A 50 60 FEET WIDE TO GET ON THAT STUFF AND THEN TWO HUNDRED BUILDING AND THEN YOU HAVE SERVICE BEHIND IT.

>> IN OUR OPINION IT'S ACTUALLY INCREASING IMPERVIOUS SURFACES TO THIS CHEMICALS WHICH IS A CONCERN. AND WE HEARD ABOUT THAT WITH THE FIRST WE'RE REALLY

CONCERNED OVER WATER. >> WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE BEING AT THIS SITE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S CERTAINLY THERE'S A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR BASE KIND OF JUST THIS SITE WORKS BETTER WITH THE WAY IT'S DONE.

RIGHT. SO IT PROBABLY INCREASED THE PERVIOUS AND THEN WE END UP

WITH LESSER UNITS. >> SO THAT'S IT'S A LOAD UP A TRADE THERE.

SPEAK TO THE NUMBERS LOOK BETTER. BUT WE DO HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY. THERE'S SIDEWALKS ON THE STREETS ALONG THE PARK.

WE CONNECT EVERYBODY TO THE AMENDED CENTER. >> VERY NICE HAS A FULL CLUBHOUSE MAIL AREA FITNESS CENTER POSSIBLY A PLAYGROUND. SO THE WHOLE SITE CONNECTS THEM TO THAT AND CAN CONNECT BACK TO THE REST OF THE BLOOD ON THE SIDEWALK THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING ON THAT DRUG AGREED TO ELIMINATE THE RIGHT AND RIGHT 170.

THAT WAS A CONCERN. SO WE ARE ENTERING THERE'S AN EXISTING CART THAT ON MAVEN BLUFF INTO THE SITE AND THEN ROAD A WHICH IS BEING BUILT TO CONNECT PREACHER POINT TO COMING OFF OF THAT WHICH IS RUNNING PARALLEL 70 GOES RIGHT PAST THE DOG PARK OR THE ANIMAL SHELTER PREACHER POINT CORRECT PICTURE POINT GOES PAST THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND ALL THIS IS THAT ROAD THAT'S BEING BUILT OUT ENGINEERED AND BE INSTALLED AS THIS GETS BUILT OUT.

>> SO WE'RE COMING IN OFF OF THAT COMING OFF OF THAT. AND THEN THERE'S THE EXISTING CARBON CAP HERE THAT WE'RE UTILIZING. WHERE'S THE ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL AS A TOOL? YOU SAID WALKING COMMUNITY WALK TO THE SCHOOL FINANCING OF THE SCHOOL. I WENT WALKING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SO I THINK WE SAID EARLIER THAT THEY WOULD BE IN PLACE IF CAPABLE OF WALKING TO SCHOOL.

I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL YEAR IS OVER. THE SCHOOL IS SITUATED RIGHT

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ABOUT THIS AREA, NOT ON THE PLAN TO WALK THE SIDEWALK THAT WAS JUST DRIVING ALONG THIS ROAD. YOU ARE TAP RIGHT INTO THAT SIDEWALK FROM HERE TO THE SCHOOL IS NOT IN CONSTRUCTION SCHOOL. THE ONUS OF RESPONSIBILITY TO

INSTALLING THAT ROAD. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE. >> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? COULD YOU REPEAT IT PLEASE? I BELIEVE.

I DON'T KNOW ANY AUTHORITY OR THE RESPONSIBILITY CALLED THE ROAD FROM THIS POINT TO THE SCHOOL THAT'S THE SCHOOL'S RESPONSIBILITY. BUT THERE ARE SIDEWALKS THERE

READY TO DO IT. >> I NEAR SIDE OR THERE SIDEWALKS CONTINUING.

YES, THERE SHOULD BE SIDEWALKS HERE OUR SIDEWALKS AND THEN THEY KEEP GOING UP IN GROUPS GOING. OKAY. I LOVE FRESNO.

WHEN I CAN MAKE A COMMENT. JUST LET ME KNOW. >> DID YOU HAVE DID YOU FINISH? YEAH I. I GOT THE COMMENT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE TO HIM.

NO BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD. YOU. KEVIN .

YEAH. YEAH. WE ALL YOU KNOW I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. AS AS WAS MENTIONED HERE SEVERAL TIMES THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NUMEROUS TIMES MENTIONED IN THIS APPLICATION. I GUESS THE REAL BASIC QUESTION IS IS BY WHOSE DEFINITION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? ARE YOU USING THE NUMBERS THAT THE COUNTY HAS ESTABLISHED WAS THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE PLAN AND A WHOLE PROGRAM WITH CERTAIN INCOME LEVELS WITH CERTAIN RENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO DETAILS OF THAT NOW, BUT I THINK IF ANYONE IS GOING TO USE THE TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEY NEED TO DEFINE IT BECAUSE IT MEANS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I KNOW ONE THING I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD WANT TO PUT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AS BAD AS WE NEED IT ON LITERALLY SITTING RIGHT ON TOP OF A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WITH A 60 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT WHERE THEY DRIVE 70 AND 80 MILES AN HOUR WHICH IS VERY WELL MIGHT BE THREE COULD BE SIX LANES IN A COUPLE OF YEARS THE WAY 170 IS BEING EXPANDED.

I MEAN I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP AND I HAVE MY OWN MAP UP HERE. I MEAN WE REALLY GOT TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS GUYS. DO WE REALLY WANT TO PUT IT UP, YOU KNOW, IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT HERE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WITH YOUNG CHILDREN LOOK AT THE PLAYGROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT RIGHT ON 170 I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE. THIS WAS APPROVED AS A MIXED USE AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE LIKEG WAS SOLD. I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS BEING SOLD WELL HERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE STORE. OH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE SCHOOL.

OH, BY THE WAY, THIS ENDS CAPACITY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN ANYBODY YOU. THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS ALREADY TURNED 170 INTO A ONE LANE ROADWAY TWO TIMES A DAY. EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T EVEN THERE'S ONE LANE GOING.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE A MILE OF TRAFFIC BACKED UP GOING INTO THAT SCHOOL AT OKATIE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OVER HERE. I THINK WE GOT TO REALLY RETHINK THIS.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANYBODY THAT'S EVER TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I DON'T THINK THEY EVER ENVISIONED IT SITTING LITERALLY RIGHT ON TOP OF A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WHERE PEOPLE DRIVE VERY FAST. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT HERE.

I MEAN YOU GUYS BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, YOU HAD A PLAN AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT JUST JUST DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA DO. NO, IT'S IT'S IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO WANT TO JUST REVERT BACK TO YEAH. LET'S PUT MORE RESIDENTIAL IN.

YEAH. YEAH. WE COULD JUST OH THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT BAD. THE TRAFFIC WON'T BE THAT. THAT'S JUST A COUPLE OF MORE UNITS. YEAH A COUPLE MORE HERE. COUPLE OF MORE THERE.

IT'S THIS AREA RIGHT NOW IS SO CONGESTED I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE PUTTING ANY MORE UNITS OF ANY KIND IN THERE ESPECIALLY SITTING RIGHT ON 170. I'M DONE.

I AS I HEAR THEIR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> AS YOU DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMING.

HOW LONG WILL IT BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THE DEFINITION THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT STUFF THAT THE NUMBERS JUST SO FIRST LET

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ME THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT WAS NICE TO SEE YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR. OUR FIRM AND ITS PRINCIPLES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING NEW FINANCING, MANAGING ONLY AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOME THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY FOR COLLECTIVELY OVER 50 YEARS. WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE WITH DEVELOPED AND REFINANCED OVER 10000 PART HOMES FROM ONE COAST LIKED TO THINK THAT WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MAKES IT GOOD FOR THE HOUSING LOCATION BOTH IN TERMS OF SIZING UP THE DEMAND BY THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OTHER IMPORTANT FEATURES OF A SITE AS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR COUNTY CODE DOES A GOOD JOB OF DEFINING WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN THE CAMP.

AND SET ASIDE THE FOCUS ON THREE DIFFERENT SITES HOUSEHOLDS OR FAMILIES THAT EARN 60 PERCENT OF YOUR INCOME OR LESS HOUSEHOLDS OR FAMILIES THAT EARN 80 PERCENT OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR LESS AND HOUSEHOLDS OR FAMILIES THAT EARN 100 PERCENT OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY AREA MEDIAN INCOME. THOSE ARE NOT COUNTED AS LAID OUT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS MR. DEEB SPOKE EARLIER. OUR FIRM OWNS AND OPERATES MEMBER OF THE BILL WHICH CURRENTLY LOCATED OLD TAKE A WORK MOMENT.

>> IT IS ONE HUNDRED EIGHT APARTMENT HOUSES MIXED WITH ONE TWO OR THREE APARTMENTS C WE HAVE A RANGE OF TENANTS THAT ARE FROM SENIOR CITIZENS TO FORMER OR FORMER MILITARY PERSONNEL. TWO TEACHERS, TWO WORKERS IN OUR HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, WORKERS IN THE RETAIL REALLY FAMILIES AND ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN.

AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO BREAK GROUND ON AN ADDITIONAL 24 HOMES DEVELOPMENT BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 132. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HOW IMPORTANT SO THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAS FOCUSED VERY LONG IN RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR A FORMAL IS IDENTIFIED A GAP OF SEVERAL THOUSAND APART. FOUR LIVES IN SOUTHERN GUILFORD COUNTY. OUR DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN THE LAST 12 YEARS AND IT IS ONLY ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO APARTMENTS. STACKED UP AGAINST THEM SEVERAL THOUSAND COUNTIES WE HAVE A

CRISIS RIGHT NOW. >> SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE MILLION BLUFF IS AT LEAST TAKE A STEP FORWARD AND ADDRESSING THAT VERY IMPORTANT PART.

>> MAN RIVER VILLAGE IS 100 PERCENT AFFORDABLE. AT THE 60 PERCENT AREA THE INCOME LEVEL ALL OF US FACE THREE OF WHICH I JUST SPOKE ABOUT WELL THAT MAKES HOMES AT 30, 50 AND 60 PERCENT OF THE AREA IN INCOME FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR APARTMENT HOMES. WE EXPECT TO FINANCE THAT TO BUILD THAT IN TWO SEPARATE PHASES. THE FIRST DAY WILL CONSIST OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY APARTMENT CLUBHOUSE, SWIMMING POOL AND ANOTHER COMMON AREA OF AMERICA'S PLAYGROUND. JUST DESCRIBED BUILDINGS ETC.. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE 120 UNITS WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WHERE FAMILIES THAT ARE EARNING 60 PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME. WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY AS TO PHASE TWO.

LET ME TELL YOU WHY BUILD OUT TIME FRAME FOR PHASE 1 ASSUMING WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM TODAY. GO THROUGH THE BALANCE OF OUR POOL THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE THREE SEPARATE READINGS FOR COUNTY COUNCIL. THE TIME WE GET THROUGH THAT BALANCE OF OUR PERMANENT BE FORTUNATE IF WE'RE ABLE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIRST

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QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWELVE AND 18 MONTHS BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY DELIVERING APARTMENT HOMES FOR OCCUPANCY EVERY YEAR.

THE STATE AGENCY WHICH OF SOUTH CAROLINA HOUSING THEY PUT OUT A DOCUMENT THAT THEY OPERATE BECAUSE OF THE QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN BECAUSE DAYS LIKE IT FOCUSES ON HELPING THE STATE ACHIEVE ITS PRIORITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE STATE.

WITH THAT COMING, THE STATE'S PRIORITIES A CHANGE. THEY ALWAYS REMAIN PREDOMINATELY FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT MUCH IS CLEAR BUT SOMETIMES THEY LIKE TO INCLUDE A PRIORITY. FOR INSTANCE, IN THE PAST THEY'VE HAD THEY'D LIKE TO SEE A MIXED INCOME COMPONENT INTERMIXED INTO THE RIBAUT.

SO RATHER THAN AS A 100 PERCENT OF THE HOMES IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR THEY MIGHT LOOK FOR A SMALL MARKET RANGING SO THAT THEY'RE ACHIEVING A PRIORITY THAT FOR HOUSING WITH SOME MARKET VERY HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE PREDOMINATE SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE CAN YOU KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE APARTMENTS WILL DEFINITELY BE AFFORDABLE. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE FIRST LOOK. WE NEED TO. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IF THE STATE DOES MAKE THAT CHANGE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS BEFORE WE'RE READY TO START WORKING ON PHASE TWO. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SMALL COMPONENT BE SOMETHING OTHER POTENTIAL. THEREFORE WHEN I SAY SMALL I MEAN PLUS 5 PERCENT. BUT WE DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO CHANGES THAT THE FUNDING SOURCE THEY MADE IN THEIR ALLOCATION IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LACK OF A BETTER TERM FAVORING OUR BUSINESS OUR MISSION TO MARS HEART'S DESIRE.

MR. YOUTH QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S EVIDENCED IN THE BROCHURE THAT WE PASSED OUT EARLIER. I'M SORRY FOR THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ONLINE THAT WE COULDN'T DISSEMINATE THAT TO YOU AGAIN UNTIL WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT AS TO THE FOURTH BASE CODE .

ERICK TOUCHED ON THAT. >> SO WE ARE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE WAR THERE. WE WERE HERE BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

IT WAS ONLY FOR 12 TO 18 MONTHS AGO OR SO SOMEWHERE IN HISTORY. THE FACT THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO WORK ON OUR SITE PLANNING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. WE INITIALLY PREPARED A PLAN ON YOUR WHAT I WANT TO CHARACTERIZE AS A FORUM BASED CAPE CODE APPROACH.

AND WHEN WE WENT TO THE SRT MEETING THE STARTING POINT WAS THAT WE NEED TO BE SUBJECT TO YOU AND THEY'RE RIGHT. SO WE WENT BACK AND WE ERIC MODIFIED OUR SITE SO THAT THAT PLAN WOULD REFLECT THE FORUM BASED CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT EFFECT IS TWOFOLD.

WELL, EXCUSE ME FOR A SECOND. HOW DOES THIS ABOUT THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT TAKE GUYS HERE ON THE PROJECT? YEAH, I MEAN WE LEAD IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO TALK DENSITY REDUCED BY 20 PERCENT. WE'RE VERY CODE .

ADDITIONALLY, IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL ENVIRONMENT WE HAD WE HAVING TO INSTALL ALMOST 20 PERCENT MORE LARGE SCALE SO HARSHLY DRIVEWAYS, PAVEMENT PAVING STONES, SIDEWALKS SO ON. SO SO IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT I'M NOT I DON'T HAVE A JOB BUT I THINK A LOW COUNTRY. I DON'T THINK MORE HARD OKATIE I THINK OF MORE GREEN SPACE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO ACHIEVE. I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAVE. SURE. LIKE GREEN SPACE FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO WE SAW THE WHOLE ENGAGE CODE IN THAT INSTANCE MOVING AWAY THAT ALWAYS PROVIDE THE VERY BEST SAID THAT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THE FORWARD BASE CODE HELPS US DO THAT PARTICULARLY THE VALUE

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OF DEVELOPMENT BLOCK DEVELOPMENT LOANS ETC. HAS NOT BEEN BUILT OUT WITH THAT IN MIND IT'S NOT BEEN BUILT OUT OF OUR RESIDENTS WON'T BE ABLE TO WALK AND UTILIZE THE COMMON AND A LEASE OF THE BEYOND DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE A WALKABLE DISAGREE FOR THAT TO OCCUR BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO GO TO HAVE A THAT'S HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND

CONCERNS THAT IS THERE. >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO SEE THE ITEMS THAT ARE UNDER CONDITIONAL ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED AND THAT DIALOG IN THAT PRESENTATION TO BE MADE.

>> WE'RE RIBAUT WORKING WITH STAFF ON BASE CODE QUESTIONS. OKAY.

IF THE COMMISSION IS PREPARED TO ALLOW THAT TO LAID OUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO WITH THE 4000 PRODUCT SAFETY THAT'S THAT'S A COMMITMENT OF THE OVERALL. WELL HALF AN ACRE PARCEL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE ON BUILDING IT I OWN MOST FIRE STATIONS.

WE WERE WORKING ON IT THERE PARCELS OF A TWO TO THREE ACRES INSIDE.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH BUT I HAVE AN EIGHT OR PARTIAL FOUR PUBLIC SAFETY REGARDLESS THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY HONORABLY. THANK YOU.

NOT THIS PARTICULAR PAST. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED THAT ATTACK HERE.

I HOPE I GET EVERYBODY IF THEY DON'T. LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. WAS REALLY THERE. I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU FOR YOUR PLEASE. SURE. JUST DONE.

ONE THING IS THAT YOU MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE DESIGN GUIDELINE IS ON THE EXISTING PD AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THERE'S NO WAY GRANDFATHERED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

LET'S SAY IT'S A NEW REQUEST. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CORRECT. THERE IS NO GRANDFATHERING UNDER ANY FORM SHAPE OR IMAGINE NATION TO THE CURRENT PLAN. WHEN YOU SHOW A MAN SOMETHING YOU OPENS UP EVERYTHING HAS THE GRANDFATHERING. IT IS OUT THE DOOR. NO VESTING AT THAT POINT.

SO MAKE IT CLEARER FOR THAT. SO I WILL ALSO WANT OUT TO YOU ALL THAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH PD DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALLOWS SOME CONVERSION OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA IN THIS AREA TO RESIDENTIAL AND IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR LIVE WORK ARRANGEMENTS.

SO YOU VERY WELL COULD OUR COMMERCIAL DOWNSTAIRS AND RESIDENTIAL UPSTAIRS IN THE SAME AREA. THIRD THING SO WE'LL MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SHIFT AND WE SEE THE D.A. BEFORE JUST BEFORE WE ACT ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MEMBER IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPER AND REALLY IS ON SOMETHING THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION PLAYS LOCALLY AND FROM A LAND PLANNING COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING STANDARD . SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARY TO HOLD THIS UP FOR THE D.A. TO BE AMENDED WITH THAT WOULD BE KIND ACCOUNTS FOR THING TEI ANALYSIS.

IT'S VERY INAPPROPRIATE. MY TO USE THOUGH WHEN IT BENEFITS A SITUATION AND THEN TO QUESTION NOW WHEN IT DOES NOT THE GUY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS GOING BE LESS TRAFFIC. IT'S PROVEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT APARTMENTS GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN STANDARD RETAIL COMMERCIAL AND ROB HAS DONE THAT ANALYSIS MEDIA INFORMATION OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AT THIS PRIEST ONLY GOES THROUGH AND YOU ALL MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION THE COUNTY COUNCIL WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS FOR MULTIFAMILY THAN IT WOULD FOR COMMERCE. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND THEN THE FINAL COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT WE WITH REGARDS TO THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL PLAN TO 70000 SQUARE FEET. I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT IN THIS ENTIRE CORE.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 170 FROM ARGENT BOULEVARD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 278 IS ESSENTIALLY AT BUILD OUT IS GOING TO BE NOT THEM BUT ONE CONTINUE WAS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT GUILFORD COUNTY HAS NO REAL CONTROL OVER FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT AND FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT OUR COUNTY COUNCIL JUST COMMITTED SEVERAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TAKING CARE OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH 170 IN THIS AREA WITH

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JASPER COUNTY AND PARTY GEL SET JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 170. SO YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. I DON'T THINK EVER THE MARKET WOULD EVER IN THIS AREA AND WE WOULD NOT WANT THE MARKET TO EVER ABSORB THIS AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THIS QUARTER BECAUSE WIDENING 170 WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO CARRY THAT TRAFFIC THAT WAS NEEDED.

THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO CARRY THAT MILLION TRAFFIC ON 170 IF THAT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL BUILT ON OCCURS FROM R.J. ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 78. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME COMMENTS THAT ARE OUT FOR YOU MOSTLY THE ISSUE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I DO NOT THINK YOU GET HOLD OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THAT NOT BEING UPDATED THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COULD I ASK ONE GIVEN WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER AND JUST CONFIRM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? HOW DOES THAT CHANGE STAFF RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE WHICH SAYS THAT IT'S A CONDITION OF THIS APPROVAL GUIDED I THINK BUT IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS. HOW CAN THAT BE A CONDITION? I'M CONFUSED.

WELL, ROB HAS TAKEN ROB IS GIVING YOU HIS FULL ANALYSIS BOTH FOR YOU AND FOR COUNTY

COUNCIL. >> THIS SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

WE WILL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL ON THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE. IF THEY DECIDE TO ACT ON THIS THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT GET UPDATED TO ALIGN WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPER. OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. SO THE CONDITIONS AREN'T JUST WANDERING IN ANALYSIS.

THE ANALYSIS IS A DISTRIBUTOR. IT'S ALSO FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

WELL SINCE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND SELF RECOMMENDATION GOES TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL, THIS NATURAL RESOURCE WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT INTERPRETATION.

THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'VE GOT FOUR PIECES OF PAPER AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ THEM THE NAMES OFF AND IF YOU WOULD JUST COME UP AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, PLEASE. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS. I'M GOING TO CALL FIRST FOR KAREN FLANDERS.

GOOD EVENING. MY FAMOUS KIERAN LANDERS. I LIVE AT 265 MAYWOOD BLOCK.

A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT KEVIN HAD TO SAY SPOKE FOR MY HEART WHICH BASICALLY WAS SAYING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT IS IN THAT AREA IS JUST GOING TO BE OUTRAGEOUS.

I THINK THE LAST TRAFFIC STUDY WAS IN 2007. SO PERHAPS THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE CONTINGENCY. THE OTHER THING IS WITH TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR RED RESIDENCES BEING PUT THERE, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT TIMES TO THE AMOUNT OF CARS. SO NOW YOU'RE AT FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT CARS WITHIN 12 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THAT'S A LOT A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR MAILING BLAH WE HAVE COMMON GROUNDS.

>> WE HAVE WILL HAVE A DOG IN ORDER FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE RIVER PUTTING

THOSE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF US. >> AND YES, WE ARE A GATED COMMUNITY BUT KEEPING PEOPLE OUT. GOING BACK TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT RIVER.

THERE'S GOING TO BE IMPOSED FOR US. THE REASON MANY OF US BUILD OUR HOMES THERE IS FOR THAT REASON IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT AREA.

AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN BRINGING THE PEOPLE MORE THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO STEP ON OUR TOES.

>> I DID NOT HEAR THEM SAY WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGE OR THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS OR THEM BUILDING THOSE PROPERTIES IN FRONT OF US. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BE PROPER IN ORDER FOR US TO MAYBE HAVE A COFFEE SHOP AND HAVE A RESTAURANT. SO THAT'S BASICALLY MY CONCERN .

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SAUNDERS. GLENN GILES.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GILES. I LIVE AT 244 MAITLAND BLOCK DRIVE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL'S YEAR. I PULLED THE WOMAN OUT OF A CAR

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ADMINISTER FIRST AID DA OUTSIDE OF OKATIE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SHE GOT HIT BROADSIDE BY A CAR THAT WAS GOING 60 MILES. NOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A THOUSAND CARS IN THAT AREA AN ADDITIONAL THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE UNITS FROM MAITLAND BLUFFED AND THEN TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR UNITS FROM THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE BUILT.

ALL RIGHT. I USED TO BE THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA EITHER WITH NO SMELL RIGHT. I KNOW THE NUMBERS DON'T SMELL RIGHT AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I JUST HEARD THAT NUMBER DOESN'T JIBE WITH WHAT I SEE.

IF YOU LOOK AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT'S USUALLY ONE POINT FIVE TO ONE POINT SEVEN FIVE CARS PER APARTMENT. SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING TWO HUNDRED CARS, YOU'RE TALKING THREE CARS. YOU'RE VERY SMALL SPECIFIC AREA .

IT WAS IT'S IT'S A PUBLIC P UNIT. IT WAS SAID TO BE THAT WAY AND IT SHOULD BE THAT WAY. I THINK ANOTHER DISASTER IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE ACTIONS THERE BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT'S JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GOT PUT THROUGH RECOMMENDATION WHEN THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT WASN'T COMPLETELY FILLED. I DON'T. WAS THERE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY DONE? IS THERE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY DONE ON THIS ALSO? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OF THAT. I HEARD A FUZZY NUMBER IT'S 60 PERCENT.

I HEARD FUZZY THINGS AND PROMISES MAYBE. JIM, IT MAY NOT BE A GYM AND MAYBE THIS MAYBE THAT I HAVE CONCERNS. I HAVE CONCERNS AND I JUST MOVED HERE AND I MOVED HERE FOR THAT COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT THAT WAS SET UP WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. PHELPS. HAROLD WILLIAMS, DAVID GROSS. MY NAME IS HAROLD WILLIAMS. OVER 270 FOR MAYOR OF DRIVE RECENTLY RETIRED FROM BRIDGESTONE A BIGGEST CORPORATE STRUCTURE NOW IS MAKING SURE THE USO OFFICE IS VOLUNTEERED OPEN AT 9 A.M. AN AIRPORT.

I'M HERE EVERY TIME I HAVE A WRITTEN PREDATOR UNITY. THIS DOESN'T REPRESENT THINK OUR NOT NECESSARILY. THE LETTER WAS SUBMITTED THIS EVENING TO THE PLAIN COMMITTEE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED PRIOR TO VOTING. THE LETTER FROM KEVIN DRAFT WITH THE LETTER THAT DETAILS THE PROPOSAL VIOLATES SOUTH CAROLINA LAW AND PROVIDES A COPY OF THE CASE. I TOLD YOU THAT I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS GOING OUT AT ALL.

I WENT TO THIS COMMUNITY FROM THE HEART AND LUNG. WE DECIDED TO MOVE DOWN HERE WITH BOTH. WE HAD A DELIGHTFUL MIXED COMMUNITY, A LOT OF MILITARY UNIT NOW AND WE DON'T WANT CHANGE AND WE WANT THE RETAIL SHOPS.

AS BUSH TELLS US I HAVE BY THE WAY A LETTER FROM MRS. CATHERINE TRAIL REGARDING I SPEAK POINT MAIL IN BLACK DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WILL BE MADE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD

OR MORE FULLY I WILL GO ON. >> BUT I AGREE WITH RED AND THIS DAD SAID THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE FOR YOU GUYS. IT'S LUDICROUS.

I THANK HIM, SEAN AND ARAR. IS IT RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

I THANK HER AND I LOVE THAT REPORT. HE MADE LOVE MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE SIX MONTHS AGO AND WE'VE MOVED INTO COMMUNITY BASED ON THE WAY BILL SET OUT.

WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY THE WAY IT WITH DESIGN. IT IS A MIXED COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A NUMBER SCHOOLTEACHERS THERE, MILITARY PEOPLE AND A TON OF KIDS.

AND PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS WE MET AND DISCUSSED THIS CHANGE WAS AROUND THE SCHOOL THE SUPPORT THE TEACHERS THAT LIVED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCROWDED AND THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION WOULD BRING EVEN MORE KIDS TO THE TO

THE PUBLIC SCHOOL THAT INJURED THE MOM. >> I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDY BUT I DO KNOW YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS EVERY TIME YOU PULL OUT OF THAT MAYHEM OF EVIDENCE RIGHT NOW.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE 200 MORE FAMILIES TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT.

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I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS THE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE TURNED IN TO MEDIA.

ARE THERE OTHER FOLKS HERE FROM THE MAINLAND LOVE AREA OR WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE FINDING COMMISSION AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CAR.

>> OK, HEARING 9:00. WE'LL OPEN IT BACK BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? RANDOLPH PERSON I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW HOW I GOT THIS FAR.

I'M THE LONGEST SITTING COMMISSIONER I WAS TOLD TODAY. AND SO I WAS THERE WHEN MAINLAND BUFFERS WAS TALKED AND DISCUSSED. IT'S WE'RE NOT PAWNS.

SO YOU CAN DO IT THIS WAY AND THEN YOU CAN CHANGE THE PD THAT WAY AND THEN YOU CAN CHANGE US THIS WAY AND LET'S BRING IT BACK BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO WARM IT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WORKFORCE HOUSING. YES.

I SEE A TWO LANE THREE LANE FOUR LANE ROAD RUNNING PARALLEL TO 170 WHERE THE KIDS CAN CROSS THEN I'M TELLING YOU. OH, THERE'S A WALL THERE. THAT'S A GATED COMMUNITY BEHIND IT. THEY CAN'T GO USER THERE. THEIR FACILITIES.

SO I LOOK AT CAPACITY IN SCHOOLS. WE'RE A LONG WAY.

YOU KNOW, MY KIDS HAVE GROWN UP GROWN UP IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SYSTEM STARTING AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ARE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THAT. SOME OF THAT IS I THINK THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS AND I'M SORRY IF I'M I'VE GET MY FAMILY ON THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT'S CAPACITY AND WHAT'S NOT CAPACITY THEIR BUS AND PEOPLE AND FROM AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE SCHOOLS AND DENYING SCHOOLS TO PLACES THEY NEED WHERE KIDS LIVE CLOSE TO SCHOOLS. AND I THOUGHT GOOD URBANISM AND GOOD PLANNING CALL FOR KIDS BEING ABLE TO WALK TO SCHOOL OR RIDE A BIKE. SAME THING WITH SHOPPING.

IF YOU JUST PUT A WALL THERE AND EVERYTHING'S APARTMENTS AND HOUSES, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN THEIR CAR AND GO ON 170 TO GET AN ICE CREAM CONE AT NIGHT.

I MEAN IT'S THAT SIMPLE. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ELEMENT OF THAT IN BOTH PLACES SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED ORIGINALLY AS WELL AS RIGHT NOW. AND I'D SAY THAT PERVIOUS TO VERSUS IMPERVIOUS TO PLANNERS YOU COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I DON'T BUY THAT.

OK, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND I DON'T GIVE YOU A PIECE OF LAND AND IF YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ARE MAKE IT MEET THE ORDINANCE YOU CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I SEE NO WALKABILITY NO WALKABILITY AT ALL. I SEE KIDS TRYING TO CROSS THE ROAD. THEY'RE GETTING HIT LIKE MR. MR GILES WHO ARE MR. WILLIAMS WHICH I WAS TALKED ABOUT. YEAH. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THAT'S JUST ONE ONE LIVES I'M SORRY TO GO ON YOU KNOW KIDS ANY PARKS AND IF THEY'RE PORTABILITY I AGREE I DON'T BELIEVE I NEVER HAVE.

I'M A NEW URBANIST. AND WHEN YOU ALL KNOW MY REPUTATION 20 PERCENT, 40 PERCENT, 60 PERCENT MORE OF THE MIX OF PEOPLE AND KIDS AND FAMILIES, THE BETTER THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S CUT AND DRY. SO YOU CAN'T TAKE.

I MEAN WE HAD AN EXAMPLE HERE WHERE COMMUTING WE'RE CHANGING A COMMUNITY AROUND WHERE YOU CAN TAKE FOR FOLKS THAT AREN'T AS FORTUNATE FINANCIALLY AND YOU PUT THEM IN A BOX.

THEN IN IN THE OLD DAYS IN NEW YORK AND EXCUSE ME I'M NOT FROM NEW YORK WE CALL THOSE DOWN HERE BECAUSE THOSE GHETTOS. ALL RIGHT. THERE NEEDS TO BE A MIX OF ECONOMIC AND AN AGE. AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THIS IS A TOUGH, TOUGH DECISION BECAUSE IT'S LIKE DOES IT REDUCE TRAFFIC OR NOT? WE DON'T KNOW.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T. THEY ONLY DO EIGHT HOURS AND PM HOURS AND THAT'S THE TRAFFIC.

WELL, GUESS WHAT? MOMS GOT A LOT. HONEY, DO YOU DO? AND THERE'S KIDS IN THOSE APARTMENTS AND I INMATE THEM. BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE TRIPS THAN WHAT THE CIA WILL SHOW. SO YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THAT. OH, HONEY, WE'RE AT THE GOT TO GET BACK TO ICE CREAM AGAIN OR WHATEVER. I GOT TO GO FILL UP.

I NEED TO GET MY NAILS DONE OR WHATEVER. THEY'RE GONNA BE A LOT OF TRUST THERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT BUFFERS, YOU KNOW.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THE PLAN. IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES I WORK IN. WE GET TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE RIGHT NOW. ONCE WE VOTE ON IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER UNLESS WE MAKE CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS. I DO LIKE TO SEE A PLAN THAT I'M NOT VOTING DOWN VOTING ON. OK. I'VE GOT OTHER THINGS I'LL SAY

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BUT I'LL LET THAT STAND RIGHT THERE. I THINK I'VE SAID WHAT I NEED TO SAY. THANK YOU, RAYNA, KEVIN , FRANK ,ANYTHING FROM YOU? ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COMMENT I'D LIKE PLEASE COME IN.

OH, YOU WANT TO GO? IS THAT KEVIN OR FRANK? YEAH.

GO FOR HOW? I JUST QUICKLY I JUST MOVED TRYING TO PICK UP WHERE ERIC LEFT OFF. YOU KNOW, AND JUST ALL OF US NEED TO BE VERY, VERY WELL AWARE. LIKE HE SAID, THIS IS NOT A GRANDFATHERING.

YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S YOU KNOW, JUST OPEN UP THIS LITTLE TINY WINDOW AND TAKE A PEEK IN THIS.

THIS IS GONNA OPEN UP THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPED AGREEMENT TO YOU KNOW WHAT? ONCE YOU OPEN IT UP, IT'S OPEN AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE END OF IT.

I THINK RANDOLPH I HAVE TO SAY I'M IN VIOLENT AGREEMENT WITH RANDOLPH.

I JUST CAN'T SEE A BUNCH OF KIDS WANTING TO GO GET AN ICE CREAM CONE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE LIVING IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S SITTING RIGHT ON 170.

YOU KNOW, FRANK TALKS ABOUT ICICLES, ELECTRIC GO CARTS AND EVERYTHING UP.

FRANK, YOU CAN'T USE A NO GOLF CART OVER HERE. YOU'RE DRIVING 60 MILES AN HOUR ON THERE. THE LADY GOT UP AND SPOKE ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.

I SEE THAT EVERY DAY. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE. IT'S GOT TO BE A ONE MILE LONG WINE DOWN 170. IT'S A ONE LANE ROAD WHILE YOU PASS THAT YOU THINK THERE'S AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING, NO STEPS TO TRAFFIC THERE. SO I THINK THIS ONE IS HALF BAKED. I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYWHERE NEAR READY FOR CONSIDERATION BY ANYBODY. IT'S A BUNCH OF WHAT EFFORTS AND MAYBES AND COULD THESE AND WOULD BES AND SHOULD BES BOTTOM LINE IS THEY BOUGHT THIS THEY THEY HAD A PLAN IN PLACE AND I JUST I SAY GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD WITH THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE THAT WAS APPROVED 12 YEARS AGO. THAT'S THAT'S MY TAKE ON THE WHOLE THING.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT AS A MATTER OF POLICY WE'RE PRIVILEGING THAT. AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 120 UNITS AT THE BEGINNING OVER A POLICY ABOUT SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT AND HOW MANY SCHOOLS THERE ARE. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MANY NEW FAMILIES IN A SCHOOL THAT'S ALREADY OVERCROWDED. HOW DOES THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICY TRUMP THE NEED FOR SCHOOLS TO BE AS RANDOLPH SAID, STUDENTS IN SCHOOLS THAT ARE NEAR TO THEM? I MEAN I JUST SEE THAT AS IN REAL CONFLICT.

AND MY POINT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS FOR US AND FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL. BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN NOT CONSIDER WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE END THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL. I MEAN THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE. ACTUALLY I THINK THAT THAT ISSUE SHOULD BE RESOLVED AND NOT AS A CONDITION BUT AS A POINT OF FACT. I TOO FEEL THAT THE APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE AND UNSATISFYING FOR ME AND I'M TERRIBLY SORRY THAT MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL ADMINISTERS MISSION AND BOARD AREN'T HERE. WE HEARD THAT THERE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD. THAT'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH FOUGHT FOR A QUESTION OF THIS CONSIDERATION AND OVER FILLING AN ALREADY OVERFILLED SCHOOL.

ALL RIGHT. >> THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE PLAN TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO ALLOW MULTI-FAMILY UNITS TO BE BUILT INSTEAD OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S IN THE PLAN THAT EXISTS

TODAY. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT THAT BE DENIED.

>> I HAVE A SECOND BY SECOND BY SECOND. >> OK.

FRANK ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER CLASS COMMENTS AT THIS POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE? COULD YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR ON YOUR ON YOUR MOTION

PLEASE? >> SURE. I MY MOTION IS THAT THE APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO 1 IN 7 THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET TO REPLACE THAT WITH MULTI-FAMILY UNITS TWO HUNDRED AND SIX THAT THAT APPLICATION BE DENIED AND THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN IS IS IN EFFECT THAT THAT THAT'S WHAT'S THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE AGREED TO. AND WE AGREED TO COUNTY. >> OK.

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I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH KEVIN BUT HOW ABOUT IF YOU JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THAT CHANGE IS RECOMMENDED NOW? THE CHANGES APD OK, I'M FINE WITH THAT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER IF EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I THINK YOU AGREE. KEVIN I'M GOOD.

YES. NO, THAT'S GOING TO END. GARY, WHEN WE STATE THIS MOTION

. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CHANGES PROPOSED ON TO THE P D

TO GO FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTI-FAMILY UNITS BE DENIED. >> WE SECOND IT.

I SECOND IT. HI, FRANK. ALL RIGHT.

ALTHOUGH IS IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. >> IT'S ONE TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE SIX FOR THE MOTION. ALL THOSE OPPOSED ON ONE OPPOSE THE MOTION TO AMEND THE APPEAL.

THE AMENDMENT TO REPLACE 207 THOUSAND SEVEN AND SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL FOR MULTIFAMILY IS DENIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF I MAY FIND THE NEXT ISSUE.

>> GOT TWO MORE. I WANT TO SPEAK BECAME THANK YOU.

[9. ADOPTION OF THE 2020 BEAUFORT COUNTY GREENPRINT PLAN AS AN APPENDIX TO THE “ENVISION BEAUFORT COUNTY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN”]

OK. >> THE NEXT ADDITION TO THE ISSUE IN FRONT OF US IS THE ADOPTION OF THE 2020 COOPER COUNTY GOOD PRINT PLAN. THEY'RE TO GET ANY ADDING IF THERE'S AN APPENDIX TO ENVISION BEAUFORT COUNTY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT. >> WHEN IT'S 70 PLUS PAGES OF TEXT AND WHAT WAS CONCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR SET OF DOCUMENTS WAS ALSO A MAP AND HOW TO USE THE MAP I MUST SAY THE MAP WASN'T IMMEDIATELY USER FRIENDLY BUT YOU GET USED TO IT IN A HURRY.

AND TO ME IT'S IT'S GOOD OR IS BETTER AS SGI MAPPING SYSTEM. I THINK IT'S PRETTY PRETTY IN EXTENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT AND I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

THANK YOU. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND, THE SAME CONSULTANT THAT HIRED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN KIND OF A FEW MONTHS OUT WE ALSO NEEDED TO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR GREEN PRINT. AND SO WE HAD THE SAME CONSULTANT TO DO THAT.

WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD JUST AS A REMINDER TO PLAN COMMISSION BACK IN MARCH.

AT THAT TIME WE WERE NOT CERTAIN HOW WE WERE GOING TO ADOPT IT, WHAT IT WAS GOING TO

BE PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR A STANDALONE DOCUMENT. >> AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW IS FOR THIS TO BE ADOPTED AS APPENDIX TO THE CONFERENCE A PLAN SIMILAR AS WE DID TO THE HIGH SCHOOL MASTER PLAN. I HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION IF YOU WANT A REFRESHER OF THE

GREEN PRINCE. >> THAT'S ANYBODY WANT A REFRESHER?

>> NOW? NO, I'M FINE. THANK YOU.

NO, THANK YOU. I SPENT TWO YEARS WITH MAN AND THEY KNOW WHAT SO I GIVE YOU I'LL SOLVE THIS BACK IN MARCH. THANK THANK YOU. AND YOU COME QUESTIONS.

YES. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND EVERYBODY THAT WORKED WITH YOU ON IT. THANK YOU.

I SECOND THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE COACH OF CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND EARLIER MET MY COMMENTS MADE MENTION OF SUPPORTING THAT ISSUE. I SEE JESSE IS NOT HERE SO I JUST STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD IS THERE ANYONE FURTHER WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? OK. HEARING NONE TOO. I HAVE A MOTION TO GO FULL

TILT. >> DON'T BE BASHFUL. >> I MAKE A SHOW THAT OH.

OH, ALL RIGHT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE ADOPT THE 2020 VIEW FOR COUNTY GREENBELT PLAN AND THE APPENDIX TO THE INVASION BEFORE COUNTY 2040.

COMPREHENSIVE OUTSIDE SECOND ALSO. PERFECT.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

RAISE YOUR HAND. IT'S UNANIMOUS MOTIONS TO ADOPT A TWENTY FOUR TWENTY TWO FOR COMPREHENSIVE PREMIUM PLAN AS APPENDIX A COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IS BOTH.

[10. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUESTS FOR 19 RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROPERTIES FROM VARIOUS ZONINGS TO T1 NATURAL PRESERVE (T1NP); APPLICANT: STEFANIE NAGID, BEAUFORT COUNTY PASSIVE PARKS MANAGER]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG WE HAVE ONE OTHER MAJOR ISSUE ON ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REZONING REQUEST FOR NINETEEN RURAL AND CRITICAL

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LANDS PROPERTIES. VARIOUS ZONING TO T1 NATURAL PRESERVE OK.

AS YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS IS THE REQUEST IS ACTUALLY STAFF INITIATED AMENDMENTS TOURISM NINETEEN SEPARATE COUNTY OWNED PARCELS SOME OF THEM ARE JOINTLY OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND OTHER ENTITIES FROM WHATEVER THEIR CURRENT SO HE GIVES MOST IN MOST CASES IT IS TOO LITTLE BUT NOT AT ALL. THE REQUEST IS ALL OF THEM TO BE CHANGED TO T ONE NATURAL RESERVE. AND OF COURSE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE COUNTY.

THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2000 AND SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE PRESERVED OVER TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND ACRES EITHER IN FEE SIMPLE OWNED BY THE COUNTY HIS LAND THAT THE COUNTY OR RETAINED THE PRIVATE PROPERTY UNDER BUT PRESERVED WITH CONSUMMATE PATIENT EASEMENTS AND THIS PARTICULAR REZONING AMENDMENT ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE PROPERTIES BY THE COUNTY.

SO IN THE CASES I BELIEVE THERE'S A FEW CASES WHERE THE COUNTY JOINTLY OWNS THEM ONES WITH THE DNR AN OPEN ANY OPEN LAND TRUST. THOSE ENTITIES HAVE BEEN CONSOLIDATED AND THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS AS WELL. SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ALL REQUESTING THIS AMENDMENT. IN GENERAL T 1 NATIONAL PRESERVE IS THE COUNTY'S LOWEST DENSITY DISTRICT IN COMPARISON RURAL ALLOWS ONE TO ALL YOU NEED IT FOR THREE ACRES TO ONE NATURAL PRESERVE ALLOWS YOU TO 10 ACRES. PRIMARILY IT WAS CREATED TO APPLY TO EITHER PRESERVE PROPERTIES OR TO MARSHALL ISLANDS THAT HAVE NO ROAD ACCESS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SPURRED THIS IS THAT THE TOWN OF PORT OIL RECENTLY DOWNTOWN'S THE MODEL TRACT WHICH IS IN THE TOWN'S JURISDICTION THAT WAS A REQUEST MADE BY THE OF SHORTLY WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH THE PORT ROAD SOUND FOUNDATION.

WE FELT THAT THAT WAS A SHOW OF GOODWILL THAT THE COUNTY IS SERIOUS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF THESE PROPERTIES WANTED THE QUESTIONS THAT ARISES IS THAT MANY OF THESE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES THE COUNTY SOME ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS PART OF PARKS, SOME IN THE FUTURE WE HOPE TO DEVELOP THESE PAST PARKS. WE LOOKED AT MANY OF THE THE RECORD YOU KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES A PASSIVE PARK AND THE T1 ONE NATURAL RESERVE IF WE DID NOT SEE THAT AS BEING A CONFLICT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS AND PARK FACILITIES AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL NOT TIE THE HANDS OF THE COUNTY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING THESE PROPERTIES AS PARTS OF PARKS. STEPHANIE, IMAGINE OUR OFFICES HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE HASKELL PARKS PROGRAM.

WE ALSO HAVE MAPS OF EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL SHOWING THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED SO THAT I COULD RUN THROUGH THOSE AT THIS TIME. CAN I HAVE A TWO PART QUESTION FOR THESE 19 ACQUIRED PROPERTIES THE RULING CRITICAL PROGRAM TO REPRESENT THE TOTALITY OF ACQUIRED PROGRAMS THROUGH THE PROGRAM? ARE THESE CHERRY PICK PROGRAMS THAT ALL OF THEM. SOME OF THE FEASIBLE PROPERTIES ARE IN LOCAL MUNICIPALITY JURISDICTIONS AND SO THERE ARE A HANDFUL THAT I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES FOR THE REZONING. AND THEN BASICALLY PRIOR TO 2010 EVERYTHING THAT WAS ACQUIRED WAS ALREADY T1 AS THEY WERE ACQUIRED. THEY WERE REASON AT THE TIME OF ACQUISITION. AND SO THEN IT'S ONLY BEEN SINCE ABOUT 2010.

NOW THERE WAS JUST A OVERSIGHT IN GETTING THE REZONING. >> THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION THEN IT WOULD CAUSE IT TO BECOME THE STANDARD FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE FUTURE TO BE ACQUIRED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM TO BE SO LABELED T1 IN THE INTENT.

OK. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IF THAT'S THE CASE WHY DON'T WE JUST INTRODUCE SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH SAYS THAT ALWAYS HAS. ANYTIME YOU CHANGE THE ZONING TRIGGERS A FORMAL ZONING AMENDMENT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO DISCUSS STAFF THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE COME IN WITH BATCHES IF WE TWO YEARS OF LAND PURCHASES COME IN REQUEST TO BE SENT ME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE ALREADY BELIEVE THAT WITH THE RURAL CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM JORDAN SO ADOPTED HAS VERY SPECIFIC SAFEGUARDS. WE BELIEVE THIS IS JUST AN

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ADDITIONAL STEP. SO I DON'T THINK THAT ANY DANGER.