Dec 16, 2021 Zoning Board of Appeals

WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH OUR NOTIFICATIONS.

THE OPTION OF A DUE DATE OF THE AGENDA.

[4. ADOPTION OF AGENDA]

NOTE THAT ITEM 6, 7, 8, AND NINE IS TAKEN OFF OF OUR AGENDA.

SO CAN I HAVE SOMEONE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THOSE, UH, AGENDA HAS BEEN MADE PROPERLY MADE AND SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR.

ALRIGHT.

UH, JEN IS ADOPTED ITEM APPROVAL OF THE

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – October 28, 2021 & November 17, 2021]

MINUTES, OCTOBER 28TH AND OCTOBER 17.

ARE WE READY TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES AND WON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK IT OVER CHAIRMAN.

I KNEW THAT THOSE MINUTES BE ADOPTED AS PRESENTED SECOND ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES BEEN PROPERLY MADE IN SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 10 ON THE AGENDA.

UH, TOBER 28TH AND NOVEMBER 17TH MINUTES.

I'VE BEEN ADOPTED MOVING RIGHT

[10. Mr. Graham Trask is requesting a Special Use Permit to construct a Drive-thru Restaurant in the T4 Neighborhood Center Zoning District. Drive-thru Restaurants are allowed in the zoning district as a Special Use. Property is located at 131 Sea Island Parkway and is zoned T4 Neighborhood Center (T4NC). (CONTINUED FROM OCTOBER’S MEETING)]

THAT'S STILL GRAHAM TRASH REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH DHEA TO CONSTRUCT A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND A T4 AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN MR. GRAHAM.

I APOLOGIZE.

GRAHAM IS HOT HERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.

THAT YOU LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

SO, UH, JUST GO AHEAD AND LET US KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE.

AND YES.

UM, SO MR. GRAHAM TRASK IS HOPING TO HAVING A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH USE, WHICH FOR THE ZONING AS A SPECIAL USE REQUEST THROUGH THE WAY, UM, WE WERE HERE DURING THE LAST MEETING FOR A NUMBER OTHER ITEMS. UM, SINCE THEN WE HAVE REVISED THE SITE PLAN SUCH THAT THE DRIVE-THROUGH DOES NOT AROUND THE BUILDING.

AND INSTEAD WE HAVE THE DRIVE-THROUGH ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

HOLD ON A SECOND.

I'VE GOT TO JUMP OFF.

I'M SORRY.

I, I, I, MY APOLOGIES WHO WAS THAT? I THINK IT WAS I'M SORRY.

IT'S BRAND TRASK.

I THOUGHT I WAS ON MUTE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE IT'S THAT CONNOR UP THERE? YES.

HELLO.

HEY CONNOR.

GOOD.

YOU'RE TAKING THE RANGE.

PERFECT.

BRIAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS? OH, YOU GO AHEAD.

I'LL I'LL UH, I'LL WATCH.

I THOUGHT WE WERE LAST ON THE AGENDA ALL THE WAY THROUGH IN EIGHT MINUTES.

WOW.

GOING TO ACCOMMODATE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE.

PERFECT.

GO AHEAD, YOUR HONOR.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS JUST THE SPECIAL USE TO BE ALLOWED FOR THE RESTAURANT WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND THAT IS THE ENTIRE SCOPE GRAHAM, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? NO, UM, WE, I GUESS CONNOR RECOVERED, WE HAVE COMPLETELY RECONFIGURED THE SITE.

UH, IT, UM, WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CAME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT HAD MEETS, UH, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE SRTS REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'RE FULLY IN SUPPORTIVE, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND, UH, YEAH, WE'D LIKE, UH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR GIVING ME YOUR NAME ONE MORE TIME, CONNOR AND BLAMING ON OR BLAME? YES.

WITH WARD EDWARDS ENGINEERING, WHERE DO YOU ALL STAND WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? SO WE HAD JUST GOT THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE TIA COMPLETED A STANTEC.

UM, AND WITH THAT, WE ARE

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UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST RECOMMENDED A SEPARATE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES FOR THE DRIVE AISLE, WHICH WE WILL ACCOMMODATE WITH THE SITE PLAN AND WORK WITH SRT THROUGH THE FINAL SRG PROCESS.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT, AND WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK, UM, FROM THE VARIOUS PARTIES, WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE FINAL DRAFT.

UM, DEITY HAS APPROVED, UM, THE DRAFT AND SO WE WILL BE, UH, GETTING THE COUNTY'S FEEDBACK AND, UH, SUBMIT A FINAL DRAFT, A FINAL DOCUMENTS.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION LOOKING AT YOUR NEW PLAN HERE, HOW MANY CARDS COULD BE LINED UP IN THIS DRIVE-THROUGH BEFORE CAME BACK OUT TO THE ROAD? YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? SO THE REVISED PLAN HAS IT SUCH THAT FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH LOOPS BEHIND AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, SUCH THAT WE WOULD NOT EXPECT CARS TO BE BACK TO BACK OUT WHERE THE SELF CONTAINED ON THE REAR OF THE SUBJECT, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.

WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR STACKING DISTANCE FIVE VEHICLES.

AGAIN, WITH THIS NEW PLAN, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE GOALS OF THE DISTRICT.

I BET THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE 20 VEHICLES OR MORE.

YEAH, WELL ACCOMMODATES FIVE BEFORE THERE'S PARKING.

UM, BUT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE MORE BEFORE YOU NEVER HAVE ANY KIND OF CONFLICTS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S 22 VEHICLES BEFORE THE TRAPPERS WILL ENCROACH INTO STREET.

I'M NOT POSITIVE OF THE NUMBER, BUT IT'S LIKELY AROUND THAT BEFORE, WHATEVER YOU BE, GET INTO THE STREETS, I'M FIGURING IT OUT.

THEY'RE BACKED UP THOUGH.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE GETTING IN AND OUT OF PARKING SPACES.

THAT'S WHY THE NEW LAYOUT HAS TO DRIVE BACK AND IT KIND OF LOOPS IN IT, YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE DRIVE-THRU AGAIN, I'M SORRY.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE ABOUT NINE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PARKING BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE CARS ON THERE.

HOW DO YOU CALCULATE THAT? UM, MEASURING THE CARS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS, WHICH I ASSUME ARE TO SCALE OR, I MEAN, THE CODE REQUIRES THE CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU PROVIDE STACKING FOR FIVE VEHICLES.

AND I THINK THE SITE PLAN BEFORE AS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE AT LEAST FIVE VEHICLES.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS HERE FROM THE COUNTY REMAIN PUBLIC COMMENT ONCE.

WELL, GOOD EVENING.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS, I GUESS KIND OF BROUGHT YOU UP TO SPEED THAT, UM, WITH THE SRT, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS THROUGH MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE KIND OF TIED UP AT THE LAST MEETING AND THE OCTOBER MEETING.

SO NOW RATHER THAN HAVING A SERIES OF EITHER APPEALS OR VARIANCES, WE'RE SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE SPECIAL USE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT IN BT FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DISTRICT IS LISTED AS A SPECIAL USE, WHICH REQUIRED US TO COME BEFORE THE CBO WAY.

AND THERE WERE FOUR CONSIDERATIONS, UM, THAT, THAT WE LOOK AT KIND OF BROAD CONSIDERATIONS AND WITH REVISED PLAN, I THINK YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

UM, THEY'VE WORKED THROUGH THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND THE GOALS OF THE DISTRICT, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF, OF THE, UM, THE NEW DRIVE-THROUGH AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING, IT MEETS, ESPECIALLY THAT THIS BOARD HAS GRANTED THE VARIANCE TO GO BEHIND IN POWER LINE EASEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH, UM, SO THEY'RE MEETING THE BILL TO REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT IS NO LONGER A CONCERN OF STAFF.

UM, THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THE PROPOSED USE SHALL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

WE LOOK AT THIS AT THE STAFF LEVEL, NOT JUST AS WHAT IS THERE, BUT WHAT IS THE VISION FOR THE DISTRICT? AND ONCE

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UM, AND ALSO IF YOU WILL, IF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT FITS IN WITH THE EXISTING, UH, PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT ON LADY'S ISLAND, BUT THE THIRD ISSUE, UH, VISUAL IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, THIS PROJECT WILL BE REQUIRED, UM, TO GO BEFORE STAFF, WE HAVE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IN THIS DISTRICT.

WE HAVE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS AND LIGHTING STANDARDS, WHICH WILL BE ADDRESSED.

SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE REVIEW THIS AND IT GOES TOWARDS FINAL, WE'LL BE, UH, PROVIDING THAT REVIEW AS WELL.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT MEETS THAT THE ONE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IN WHICH WE'RE MAKING A CONDITION OR RECOMMENDING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION CONGESTION.

AND SO WE HAVE REQUIRED THE APPLICANT AS PART OF THE SUBMITTAL TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

AND RIGHT NOW IT IS IN DRAFT FORM.

UH, THE COUNTY ALSO WE'RE WE HAVE HIRED A BEALE ENGINEERING TO, TO ACT ON OUR BEHALF TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WORK THAT THEIR ENGINEER DOES.

SO, UM, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS, WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHETHER THEY'RE ONSITE OR OFFSITE, THAT THOSE THINGS WOULD BE CONDITIONS OF WHEN OUR STAFF REVIEW TEAM GIVES FINAL APPROVAL TO THIS.

SO THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER OF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN YOU HAVE HAS ONE LANE IN, AT ONE LANE COMING OUT, IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE DUAL, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

AND LEFT-HAND LANES EXITING THE SITE, THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A CONDITION THAT WOULD BE FINAL.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT JUST ON OUR INITIAL REVIEW IS, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SUFFICIENT ROOM ONSITE FOR RICARDAS LEAVING THE SITE? YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THAT'S MAYBE NOT AS MUCH A CONCERN FOR MANY PEOPLE IS CARS GETTING INTO THE SITE AND WHETHER THEY'RE ABLE TO EXIT, YOU KNOW, SEA ISLAND PARKWAY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE ADDRESSED IN, IN FINAL.

AND IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF WAY TO MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES IN THEIR FINAL SITE PLAN, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WOULD COME OUT OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THEY ALSO MAY, AND I UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT, UH, DOD IS NOT REQUIRING, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS IS FINALIZED, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT WOULD REQUIRE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER THAT IS TURNING LANES INTO THE SITE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE, UH, WOULD COME OUT OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANALYSIS.

I KNOW THAT, UM, BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE'S A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE ON TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION.

AND SO WE HAVE THE ENGINEER THAT WE HAVE ON RETAINER, JENNIFER BEAL, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM STANTEC WHO IS THEIR ENGINEER, THEY ARE ON OUR WEBEX MEETINGS.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE, THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC, THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE.

UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THE CONDITION THAT, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS DONE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOLLOWED WITH FINAL SRT.

THE PROJECT WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE STAFF DRB OR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVAL.

AND THEN OF COURSE, STORMWATER QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.

THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT COME OUT OF THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION AND STAFF.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE WATER.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A LARGE AREA PAVED SPACE ON THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S, DOESN'T THAT TAKE A LOT OF, OF, UM, POND OR WHATEVER? WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? YEAH, I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, THEIR ENGINEER CAN ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN SOME VERY TIGHT SITES WITH A LOT OF PAVEMENTS THAT THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET TO OUR POST DEVELOPMENT OR PRE-DEVELOPMENT RUNOFF.

AND IF THEY CAN'T BE DONE WITH PONDS, PERVIOUS SURFACE, THEY CAN DO WITH UNDERGROUND.

SO, I MEAN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO ADDRESS IT WILL, THERE'LL BE REQUIRED TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR STORMWATER REGARDLESS.

OH, SIR, I HAVE A QUESTION.

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YEAH, IT, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT EARLIER WASN'T IT SAID THAT THE EXIT LANE THAT THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO A RIGHT AND LEFT HAND TURN ON THE EXIT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

UH, WHAT'S THE FUTURE PLAN FOR THAT ROAD? ARE WE DOING AWAY WITH LEFT-HAND TURNS ON THAT ROAD? THAT IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, DOING ACCESS MANAGEMENT ADDITIONAL WORK ON SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.

AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT THOSE TYPES OR THEY'RE NOT ANSWERED YET.

AND SO ONCE WE HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER LOOKING AT ACCESS MANAGEMENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S TALK ABOUT A SIGNAL AT RADIAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE ROADS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE PENNY SALES TAX PROJECTS, THE NETWORK OF STREETS TO KIND OF BYPASS THAT MAIN INTERSECTION.

ONCE THOSE ARE IN PLACE, THEY'RE TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT SEATTLE PARKWAY AND WHERE THAT LEADS, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO MEDIUM CLOSINGS.

WE'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WE KNOW WHERE THAT OKAY.

BECAUSE IF IT DOES, THEN IT WOULD BE SENSELESS TO PUT A RIGHT AND LEFT HAND TURN LANE IN THAT DRIVER.

MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD A SEAGULL AT YEOMANS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE TRYING TO GET TRAFFIC OUT TO THAT SIGNAL VERSUS HAVING, YOU KNOW, FULL ACCESS INTERSECTIONS.

BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AND THAT'LL COME OUT OF A ENGINEERING PROCESS.

SO OTHER THAN THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE, I MEAN, IT, IT PRETTY MUCH MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT OTHER THAN THE TRAFFIC.

SO, YEAH, AS FAR AS THE SITE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DISTRICT, THIS NEW CONFIGURATION, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE HAD AT THE OCTOBER MEETING.

WE CAN REWORK THE SITE.

AND SO, UM, YES, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE SITE PLAN ISSUES.

IT TO PEOPLE TO COME IN AND PUT MORE PRESSURE ON IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH WORSE TRAFFIC CONDITION.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY? UH, WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, THE FIRST PUBLIC COMPANY GIVES MR. JORDAN FRITZ PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU CAN COME TO THE BOARD HERE, UH, TO THE PODIUM.

WE HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL THREE GENTLEMEN, LADIES, YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB HERE.

YOU'VE GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER TO PERMIT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE AND THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S NOT A CASUAL PLAN.

IT WAS A PLAN THAT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO BRING TO FRUITION.

IT TOOK ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COUNTY THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER.

IT TOOK PROFESSIONAL DESIGNERS TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

UH IT'S.

IT WAS JUST A LOT OF EFFORT.

A LOT OF TIME, WE EVEN FOUND A WAY, AS WE JUST MENTIONED, TO GENERATE $30 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN, MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAD INPUT INTO THIS PLAN WHERE THE HUNDREDS OF PUBLIC PEOPLE OR PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON LADY'S ISLAND, THEY ALL HAD A VOICE.

AND THIS PLAN IS THE RESULT OF WHAT THEY THEY WANTED.

SO IF WE START RIGHT NOW MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO THIS PLAN, IT DOESN'T LEAD US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE IS PLACE WHERE THAT PRESERVES, WHAT LADY'S ISLAND IS TODAY.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, IF NOT, MOST OF THEM ARE LIVING ON LADY'S ISLAND BECAUSE OF WHAT IT IS.

AND IF WE START MAKING ALL OF THESE CHANGES TO THE PLAN, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS WE LOSE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE.

AND THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE REASON WE SAT DOWN SIX YEARS AGO AND STARTED WORKING ON THIS PLAN.

MR. TRASK, ISN'T REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS PLAN, MR. TRASK IS INTERESTED IN HIS PLAN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT Y'ALL ARE CHARGED WITH MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE END UP WITH IS NOT DETRIMENTAL THE LADY'S ISLAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER HERE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'VE CORRECTED SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS. THE BIG PROBLEM HERE IS TRAFFIC.

NO ONE CAN DENY THAT AND NO ONE HAS A SOLUTION FOR THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A TERRIBLE TRAFFIC SITUATION RIGHT NOW.

AND IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW

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PROBLEM IS NOT A COFFEE HOUSE ON LADIES ISLAND.

I'D LOVE TO SEE A COFFEE HOUSE ON LADY'S ISLAND.

IN FACT, IF MR. TRASK HAD ANOTHER LOCATION THAT HE COULD PUT HIS COFFEE HOUSE, I'D BE THE FIRST PERSON THERE TO BUY COFFEE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT THIS HAS ON LADY'S ISLAND.

SO ON BEHALF OF HUNDREDS OF THE PUBLIC THAT GOT INVOLVED OVER THOSE FIVE YEARS AND ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE, THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND SO FORTH, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS PLAN AND ENCOURAGE MR. CRASH TO RELOCATE THAT SOLVES ALL THE PROBLEMS. THANK YOU.

KEEP UP.

THE COUNTY STAFF SAYS THAT THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH PLANTS.

I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU SAY THAT IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW.

IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

THEY HAVE HESITANCY WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THEY THEY'RE DOING SOME MORE TRAFFIC STUDIES.

WHAT'S THE, UH, FAN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SAW THE TRAFFIC, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY CAN, BUT IF THEY DO, THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC AT THE VERY POINT WHERE WE HAVE A TWO LANE, FOUR LANE HIGHWAY COMING INTO A TWO LANE HIGHWAY.

THAT'S DANGEROUS.

THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US, ANYBODY THAT'S ON, ON THE HIGHWAY.

IT COULD BE OUR FAMILY THAT GETS IN AN ACCIDENT THERE.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST FOR LADY'S ISLAND AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

HI, I'M MIKE SPALDING.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS.

I LIVE, UH, ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT ON SEA ISLAND PARKWAY, ACTUALLY NINE TWO FACTORY CREEK COURT.

I LIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LADIES, THAT ONE MARINA.

SO I'M VERY CLOSE.

UH, WE WALK OUR DOG UP AND DOWN SEA ISLAND PARKWAY EVERY MORNING, AFTERNOON, EVENING.

SO I KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC'S LIKE.

AND WE'RE TALKING.

I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST POSSIBLE USE OF THAT PROPERTY THERE.

AS HE MENTIONED, IT'S WHERE THE TWO LANES FILTER INTO ONE LANE.

THERE IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THIS IMPACT AT ALL.

AND WE TALK ABOUT A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

I'LL TELL YOU A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT I'VE DONE, THAT YOU CAN ALL DO VERY EASILY.

GO SOME MORNING, ANYTIME BETWEEN SEVEN TO NINE O'CLOCK TO THE DUNKIN DONUTS OVER THERE ON A BOUNDARY STREET OR TRASH PARKWAY AT ONE 70.

Y'ALL KNOW WHERE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THAT THE TRAFFIC, THE CARS ARE BACKED UP ALL THE WAY ON YOUR TRASH PARKWAY, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE PULL THROUGH THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AND BLOCK THE TRAFFIC LIGHT GOING THROUGH THERE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO STAGE 5, 7, 8, OR NINE CARS ON, ON THE WAITING THROUGH THE DRIVE-THROUGH, THERE'LL BE THREE OR FOUR TIMES THAT IN THE MORNINGS, THAT'S A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WE CAN ALL DO.

AND WHEN THEY PUT A CONTINGENCY ON IMPROVABLE, UH, FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BY THE APPLICANT, ISN'T THAT A CONTRADICTION OF PURPOSE, REALLY? THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, PLEASE.

YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT HOW BAD THAT WILL BE.

ANY QUESTIONS.

I REALLY THINK THAT'S WHY THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT ENGINEER.

WHO'S GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO MAKE SURE THE TRAFFIC GET BACK ANALYSIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, THAT IT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO SEE.

WESTBOUND, UH, UP THERE ON, ON TRASK.

SO IT WON'T JUST BE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

THAT'S BEING FURNISHED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND AM I MISTAKEN THERE, MR. MR. WHO'S THE ENGINEER WHO THE COUNTY.

AND IF YOU CAN ALL LOOK AT YOUR OWN EYES, I'VE BEEN, I'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES AND IT WAS NOT ON PURPOSE.

WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE GOING UP THAT WAY A FEW TIMES.

AND IT'S REALLY UNBELIEVABLE.

IT'S A PROBLEM.

AND ON THEIR OWN TRENDS REPORT, THAT'S FOUR LANES.

THIS IS TWO TO TWO LANES GOING INTO ONE LANE WHERE IT'S TWO LANES GOING

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SO IT'LL BE MUCH WORSE THAN IT IS UP THERE.

THE STAGING GUN, ANY, EXCUSE ME, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. ROBERT CAN SEE THIS, UNDERSTAND THIS LAST DRINKS AND DRINKS.

YES, YES.

YOU CAN APPROACH THE PODIUM, NOT REALLY TO JIMMY, BUT I AM RELATED TO CHRISTINA FIVE, EMMY AWARDS.

MY DAUGHTER, UH, I'M HERE BASICALLY TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BE TOLD TO THE CEO AND COALITION.

UH, I LIVED ON DATTO AND NOW I LIVE IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTY.

UH, I LIVE IN HABERSHAM, UH, AND I'VE BEEN AMAZED AT TIMES WHEN I WAS COMING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF ONE 70 AND 21.

AND THE CHICK-FIL-A BACKUP.

NOW YOU'RE COUNTING THE AMOUNT OF CARS.

WELL, IF THE PROPOSED COFFEE SHOP IS SUCCESSFUL, UH, 20 OR 30 COLLEGES WOULD BE A GOOD ONE BECAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THERE.

AND IT BACKED UP INTO THE STREET.

WE HAD A, AS YOU KNOW, YOU PUT A SURROUND, UH, A ROAD AROUND THAT AREA TO RELIEVE THE TRAFFIC ON THE MAIN 21.

AND YOU COULD EVEN GET IN THERE.

UH, SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE SENSITIVE, UH, ESPECIALLY A VARIETY.

I AGREE COMING IN FROM, UH, FROM ST.

ALAN ISLAND, YOU GOT THAT CONSTRICTION THERE, BUT ALSO I'M LOOKING.

MY POINT OF VIEW IS THE AESTHETICS.

I DO ADOPT A HIGHWAY.

I BELONG TO A NUMBER OF GROUPS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AESTHETICS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WATCHED THE HARBOR FREIGHT WHERE THE BUILDING IS PUSHED UP AGAINST THE ROAD, A PLACE WHERE A DISCOUNT AUTO USED TO BE AS A NEW RESTAURANT.

IT'S JUST PUSHED UP AGAINST THE ROAD.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE, BUT IF THEY KEEP DOING THAT KIND OF THING, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A VERY AESTHETIC DRIVE, ESPECIALLY IN A STATE HIGHWAY.

REMEMBER IT'S A STATE CITY HIGHWAY, SUPPOSEDLY DRAWING PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I'M JUST SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOU TO LOOK AT.

HONESTLY, THANK YOU.

MR. JOHN, MY NAME'S SEAN SCHULLER.

THIS VICKY.

MY NAME IS .

WE MOVED HERE THIS PAST MARCH, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED TO LADY'S ISLAND WAS BECAUSE OF ITS QUAINTNESS BECAUSE OF THE FEEL OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT JUST SEEMS FROM LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE, LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND EVEN LOOKING AT THE REVISED PLAN THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS SENT TO Y'ALL IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE MOVING TOO QUICKLY AND IT NEEDS TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER LOCATION.

THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER LOCATIONS THAT AREN'T AS CONGESTED RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHERE THE DUNKIN DONUTS IS GOING TO BE IS IT'S TWO LANES GOING INTO ONE.

AND INTERESTINGLY, TONIGHT, WHEN I WAS DRIVING OVER HERE, I WAS IN THE FAR RIGHT LANE AND NOBODY WOULD LET ME OVER INTO THE MAIN LANE.

SO I ACTUALLY HAD TO PUT MY BRAKE ON RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET ME OVER.

AND I THOUGHT, WOW.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE DUNKIN DONUTS IS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, AS I'M TRYING TO GET OVER INTO THE LEFT LANE, THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT TO GET COFFEE.

AND HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO EVER GET INTO THE NEXT LANE? SO THERE'S ALREADY A CONGESTION ISSUE.

SO WHY WOULD WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EVEN THAT MUCH WORSE AND NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE TWO LANES GOING INTO ONE, THEN I WANT TO BE OTHER REASONS WHY WE MOVED HERE IS BECAUSE I RIDE MY BIKE EVERYWHERE.

I WANT IT TO LIVE SOMEPLACE WHERE I COULD GET ON MY BIKE TO GO PLACES.

AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THE TIME CHANGE, I WOULD HAVE WRITTEN HERE TONIGHT BY BIKE.

AND WHERE'S THAT BIKE LANE GOING TO GO.

AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THOSE PEOPLE WHO USE THEIR BICYCLES FOR TRANSPORTATION.

I JUST ASK YOU TO ANOTHER LOCATION, CONTINUE TO LOOK FURTHER AT THIS.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE WHEN THE OTHER DUNKIN DONUTS WAS BUILT, BUT YET I TRAVELED TO M U S C OFTEN.

AND IF YOU PASS DUNKIN DONUTS AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN LIKE SEVEN AND 9, 9 30, THOSE CARS ARE ALL ONTO THE MAIN ROAD MAKING THAT TWO ROAD ONE LANE ROAD.

AND THERE WAS PROBABLY A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE.

SO I GUESS I ASKED THAT WE SLOW DOWN THIS PROCESS.

WE LOOK FURTHER, WE LOOK AT WHAT WE REALLY WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES TO LOOK LIKE, AND FOR IT TO BE IN FOR IT, TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU,

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I, UM, LIVE ON LADY'S ISLAND.

I MOVED HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

UM, AND SO I'M STILL LEARNING MORE ABOUT LADY'S ISLAND AND HOW IT'S GOVERNED OR DISSOLVED.

UH, BUT SHORTLY AFTER I ARRIVED, I RECEIVED THIS, THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN FROM 2018.

UH, I THINK PERHAPS, OR WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT WHAT'S THE PLAN, I THINK THIS IS ONE PLAN OR MAYBE OTHER PLANS, UH, BUT THIS IS A PRETTY EXTENSIVE PLAN.

AND WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, UM, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CORRIDOR, UM, AND IT WAS AN INTENTIONAL LIST TO HAVE MORE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE AVAILABILITY TO HAVE THE AESTHETICS OF, UM, BUSINESSES.

AND I GUESS, UM, MY OBSERVATION FROM BEING IN THIS AREA IS THAT IS A REALLY UNIQUE AREA IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND IT, THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH THERE, UM, INCLUDING ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES TO FRED KNOW DURING THE SUMMERTIME.

SO IT DOES SEEM LIKE, UM, AN OLDER COUNTY RULES, BUT THIS IS A PRETTY SPECIAL STRIP.

AND THAT PART RIGHT THERE, UH, IS PROBABLY, IS CERTAINLY THE MOST CONGESTED, UM, AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY.

UH, I'M A LITTLE, IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND I'VE NEVER LOOKED AT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW THE CONTINGENCIES AND THE UNCERTAINTIES THAT WOULD BE ON A TRAFFIC STUDY.

UM, MAYBE TO THE EARLIER COMMENT.

UM, IT SEEMS STRANGE TO ME THAT IT WILL BE APPROVED PENDING THE TRAFFIC STUDY THOUGH.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES SHOULD YOU BEFORE THE APPROVAL IS DONE.

SO I GUESS I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.

AND THEN I ALSO AGREE WITH THE AESTHETICS TO ME THAT HOPEFULLY ONE DAY THAT AREA WILL BE DEVELOPED INTO MULTIPLE BUSINESSES TOGETHER WITH SINGLE ENTRY AND EXITS, MAYBE WITH THE LIGHT SO THAT THERE AREN'T CARS COMING ALL PLACES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THE TRUCK NEWTON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, I GUESS IT'S EVENING.

UM, I'M CHUCK NEWTON, I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE SEA ISLAND COALITION.

UM, I WAS HERE BEFORE YOUR LAST SESSION.

I'M HERE BEFORE YOU AT THIS SESSION.

AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER SESSION, I'LL BE AT THAT SESSION TOO.

UM, WE'RE REALLY HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOUR DENIAL OF THIS, THIS APPLICATION, UH, TIA, AS ROB MENTIONED, HAS BEEN REQUESTED FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THIS MAY BE USEFUL, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I'VE SPENT A DOZEN YEARS ON PLANNING BOARD IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS RUNNING THIS COALITION, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A TRAFFIC PLAN THAN A DEVELOPER DIDN'T LOVE.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HIM.

SO I CAUTION YOU ABOUT READING TOO MUCH INTO ANY TRAFFIC, UM, TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT, UH, DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANTS ARE DIFFERENT.

UM, I GOOGLED DRIVE-THROUGH TRAFFIC IMPACTS THIS MORNING JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT.

AND I HEAR A FEW OF THE HEADLINES THAT POPPED UP LONG LINE LONG RIDE THROUGH LION CAUSES, TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN FORT LAUDERDALE DRIVE THROUGH IS CAUSING TRAFFIC DELAYS ACROSS CHARLOTTE AN HOUR.

WAIT FOR COFFEE DRIVE THROUGH IS RAD BACKING UP TRAFFIC ON BOSTON ROADS.

UM, DRIVE-THROUGHS CONTINUE TO CREATE CONGESTION IN SANTA BARBARA.

YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SAYS, DRIVE-THRU SEEM TO CREATE PROBLEMS HERE ON LADY'S ISLAND.

YOU KNOW, A DRIVE-THROUGH IS NOT GOING TO GENERATE MORE TRIPS, BUT IT'S GOING TO GENERATE CONGESTION.

AND THAT'S THE ISSUE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING ALL ALONG SEATTLE AND PARKWAY FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

THIS CONGESTION, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS AT THE WORST POSSIBLE LOCATION.

AS PRIOR SPEAKERS HAVE MENTIONED, TWO LANES ARE MOVING INTO ONE IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ENTRY TO BILL'S LIQUORS.

AND THE, AND THE GRECO SHOPPING CENTER IS A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY FROM ONE OF THE COUNTY'S BUSIEST INTERSECTIONS.

UH, AND IT'S, UH, IN A STRETCH OF SEATTLE AND ARGUING THAT HAS FIVE INTERSECTIONS LOSS OF SERVICE, UM, ON FOUR OF THEM, IS THESE DEER WORSE? SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THESE PROBLEMS. AND AS ROB MENTIONED, UH, AND THERE IS SOME REDESIGN GOING ON, UH, ON THAT CLM PARKWAY.

BUT IF, IF YEOMAN'S DRIVE IS SIGNALIZED, IT'S GOING TO JUST EXACERBATE THE SITUATION.

CAUSE THAT'S JUST 300 FEET AWAY FROM WHERE THIS DRIVE-THROUGH WAS LOCATED.

SO MAKE ONE MISTAKE, THERE'S ENOUGH TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ALREADY ON SEA ISLAND.

IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TO HELP LADIES ISLAND TRAFFIC BY DENYING PARTICULAR APPLICATION, ONE OF THE FOUR STANDARDS THAT FIRST SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH ZOB THE MUA MUST ENFORCE IS MINIMIZATION OF ADVERSE EFFECTS ON TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION.

THAT'S A STANDARD.

IT'S NOT A CONGESTION.

THAT'S THE STANDARD.

THIS APPLICATION

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CLEARLY FAILS.

THE DRIVE-THROUGH BUSINESS IS BASED ON INCREASING TRAFFIC, NOT DECREASING AT 70% OF THE REVENUE FOR A TYPICAL THROUGH RESTAURANT COMES THROUGH THE WINDOW.

THE GOAL WILL BE OWNER IS TO INCREASE TRAFFIC ONTO THAT SITE, NOT DECREASE GROUNDS FOR DENIAL.

THE CBO IS FURTHER EMPOWERED TO SET CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

ONE OF THEM IS TO ENSURE THEY PROVISION THE COMP PLAN AND CDC ARE MET GIVEN THE FOCUS ON MINIMIZATION AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT LADY'S ISLAND PLAN, WHICH IS PART OF THE COURT, THE COUNTIES COMP PLAN.

THIS APPLICATION FEELS THAT TEST AS WELL, GROUNDS FOR DENIAL, A FIFTH CONDITION PREVENTION OR MINIMIZATION OF ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE ALSO CANNOT BE MET ALONG THE STRETCH OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THERE WERE 541 VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.

MOST OF THEM REAR END OR ANGULAR COLLISIONS.

THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY TO INCREASE.

WE THINK WITH THE CONGESTION AROUND THE ENTRY TO A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT, AND THAT IN NO WAY, CONTRIBUTES TO HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE, JUST THE OPPOSITE GROUNDS FOR DENIAL.

WE UNDERSTAND THE CBO IS BOUND TO MAKE DECISIONS BY THE BOOK, BUT WE THINK THE BOOKS HAVE JUST CLEARLY THAT THIS APPLICATION BE DENIED.

ONE FINAL POINT EARLIER THIS MONTH, THE CLOWN COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED SEVERAL CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY COUNTY PLANNING STAFF.

MOST OF WHICH FLOWED FROM ISSUES UNDER DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING OF ZOA AND APPROVING THOSE CHANGES.

THE COMMISSION ALSO APPROVED IN A CONDITION THAT DRIVE-THROUGHS MUST BE ENTERED AND EXITED, EXITED USING DIFFERENT ROADWAYS.

IF THE INJURY IS FROM A PRIMARY ROADWAY, SUCH AS THE CLN PARKWAY, THE EXIT MUST BE MADE TO A SECONDARY ROADWAY.

THIS PROVISION WAS SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT MANAGING DRIVE-THROUGH CONGESTION AND FOR VERY GOOD REASONS, I MEAN, BASIC MATH TELLS YOU THAT THAT CUTS BY HALF THE NUMBER OF EXITS OFF A MAIN ROADWAY INTO, UH, INTO, UH, UH, BUSINESS CYCLE.

BUT THIS RECOMMENDATION GOES TO NATURAL RESOURCES FOR ENDORSEMENT IN JANUARY AND THEN TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, IF APPROVED.

AND IT SEEMS INFORMALLY TO BE GOOD SUPPORT FOR APPROVAL.

YOU WILL TONIGHT BE APPROVING THAT APPLICATION IN DECEMBER THAT WILL BE PROHIBITED IN JAN IN FEBRUARY.

GOOD FOR THE DEVELOPER, PERHAPS, BUT BAD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ENTIRELY AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF GOOD DEVELOPMENT, THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE LADY'S ISLAND COMMUNITY.

I HOPE YOU'LL DO THIS BY THE BOOK AND DENIED THIS APPLICATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, OF COURSE.

WAIT, I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE JANUARY FEBRUARY? WHAT'S CHANGING THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THAT, APPROVE THIS, UM, TAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IT'S THIS, THIS MONTH'S MEETING DECEMBER MEETING, OR WAS IT NOVEMBER IT'S DECEMBER, DECEMBER MEETING.

IT HAS TO GO FIRST, THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, UM, FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.

AND IF APPROVED THERE, IT WILL GO ON TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR ITS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL.

UH, SCHEDULE IS UP IN THE AIR, BUT PRESUMABLY KELLY, UH, NATURAL SOURCES WOULD GET IT IN JANUARY.

SO HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S? NOW THAT PROVISION REQUIRES THAT AN ENTRY AND AN EXIT NOT BE OFF THE SAME ROADWAY FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, NOT IN POSITION RIGHT NOW, THAT'S COMING.

BUT WE CAN ONLY DEAL WITH WHAT'S IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT AMENDMENT MAY NOT BE THAT'S TRUE TOO.

THAT'S CORRECT TOO.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S CORRECT.

I MEAN, KEEP IN MIND, BINTER TRANCE, DIDN'T SELL OFF HALF OF THIS PROPERTY EARLIER.

THIS WAS A LARGER PARCEL AND IT WOULD HAVE ACCOMMODATED THIS KIND OF BUSINESS IN A MUCH MORE AMENABLE FASHION HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH A PARCEL THAT'S HALF OF ITS ORIGINAL SIZE AND BASICALLY LANDLOCKED NOW, WHICH ACTUALLY CREATES, CREATES A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH.

WELL, NO, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LANDLORDS JUST GET IN FRONT OF JOHN ON THE HIGHWAY, SO IT'S NOT LANDLOCKED WHAT LANDLOCKED IN TERMS OF THE REAR OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, OTHER, OTHER, UM, OTHER POTENTIAL FOR EIGHT YEARS.

UM, MS. ARNETTE, UH, ADOBE.

OF WHERE THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE PLACED IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE.

MY NAME IS .

I LIVE AT 40 SHEPHERD ROAD ON LADY'S ISLAND.

AND MY CONCERN IS, IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A NEW BUSINESS COMING INTO THE AREA.

UM, AND WE WELCOME NEW BUSINESS.

CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WELCOME ANY NEW BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE COMING TO OUR AREA, BUT I THINK THE CHOICE

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I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN ANOTHER AREA, UM, RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

UM, THERE'S NO MEDIUM THERE WHERE YOU FEEL LEAVING THAT BUSINESS WHERE YOU CAN GET INTO THE MEDIUM AND THEN WORK YOUR WAY INTO, INTO TRAFFIC.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU COULD DO THAT RIGHT AT THAT SITE.

UM, AND I CAN THINK OF SOME OTHER AREAS ALONG THAT SCRATCH THAT THE BUSINESS WOULD PROBABLY FIT IN.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK ELSEWHERE AND CONSIDER THE, UM, PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND THE PROBLEM THAT IT WOULD CAUSE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, SOMETHING NEEDED TO SOMETHING ELSE NEEDED TO BE, UM, LOOKED AT AT ANOTHER SITE.

THANK YOU, MS. JESSE, THANK YOU.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE COURT OF APPEALS, YOUR FULL NAME, JESSE WHITE ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE.

AND I'M HERE TO, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH, UM, 1 31 SEATTLE AND PARKWAY, WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE LOCAL ECONOMIC INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, IN LADY'S ISLAND, WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE PARTICULAR PROPOSED USE FOR THIS SITE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF HUBRIS COUNTIES, 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ESPECIALLY THE PLANS ENDORSEMENT OF THE 2018 LADY'S ISLAND PLAN, MANAGING GROWTH, CREATING A WALKABLE VILLAGE CENTER AND MANAGING TRAFFIC CONGESTION WERE THE DRIVING FORCES MOTIVATING AND INFORMING THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.

THE PLAN IDENTIFIES QUALITY OF PLACE AS A COMMON GOAL SEEKING TO ENSURE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ON THE ISLAND ARE INSPIRING AND FUNCTIONAL ACROSS A SERIES OF CONTEXT, SENSITIVE WALKABLE, MIXED USE PLACES THAT ARE BUILT TO SUPPORT STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMERCIAL CENTERS THAT LASTS FOR GENERATIONS.

ANOTHER PRIMARY GOAL IS CONNECTIONS TO TIE PEOPLE AND PLACES TOGETHER.

THEY'RE AN INTEGRATED NETWORK OF STREETS AND MULTI-USE TRAILS AND ENHANCES THE ISLAND SENSE OF PLACE WHILE PRESERVING THE ABILITY OF LOCAL AND REGIONAL TRAFFIC TO MOVE EFFICIENTLY ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.

THE PLAN IDENTIFIES A SERIES OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL BUILDING BLOCKS TO SUPPLEMENT THE COUNTY AND CITY'S UNDERLYING ZONING RECOMMENDING AS FOLLOWS INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS SHOULD ULTIMATELY ADD UP TO A COHESIVE WHOLE, ALL TARGETING THE DESIRE, NOT JUST FOR HIGH QUALITY INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS, BUT FOR HIGH QUALITY PLACES THAT REINFORCE AND STRENGTHEN EXISTING, URBAN, SUBURBAN, AND RURAL FORMS OF DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PROJECT FALLS WITHIN WHAT SPAN CATEGORIZE CATEGORIZES THE LADY'S ISLAND VILLAGE, WHICH QUOTE INCLUDES A DIVERSE MIX OF USES RESULTING IN A UNIQUE QUALITY AND CHARM AS THE FOCAL POINT FOR LADY'S ISLAND.

THERE WAS GREAT INTEREST IN ENSURING THAT AS PROPERTY IN THE AREA OF REDEVELOPS THAT IT DO SO IN A WAY THAT A UNIQUE SENSE OF PLACE IS RESPECTED AND A VILLAGE IS CREATED, THE AREA IS THE FOCAL POINT OF LADY'S ISLAND.

AND NO ONE WANTS TO SEE IT END UP BEING A GENERIC AUTOMOBILE DEPENDENT, SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL STRIP THAT'S QUOTED FROM THE 2018 LADIES ISLAND PLAN IN PARTICULAR, THE PLAN REITERATES THAT TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND CONGESTION HAS LONG BEEN A CONCERN IN THE LATEST ISLAND VILLAGE AND RECOMMENDS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, UM, AS PART OF THE COUNTY'S 2018 PENNY SALES TAX PROGRAM, INCLUDING, UM, A SERIES OF ACCESS ROADS FOR GREATER CONNECTIVITY ON THE ISLAND AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MAIN CORRIDOR OF SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.

BUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE JUST NOW BEING UNDERWAY.

THE VILLAGE CORRIDOR PRINCIPLES INCLUDE ENCOURAGING SMALL SCALE WALKABLE USES MAINTAINING THE CORRIDORS CHARACTER AND SENSE OF PLACE AND CREATING CONNECTIONS TO THE MAIN CROSSROAD AND INTERSECTION WITH THE PARKWAY IN SAM'S POINT ROAD, BETTER CONNECTING IT WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE PLAN EXPRESSLY RECOGNIZES THAT THE LADY'S ISLAND CROSSROAD INTERSECTION DEVELOPED IN A PRIMARILY AUTO DEPENDENT MANNER AND ENCOURAGES FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT PARADIGM.

AS SUCCINCTLY STATED IN THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN, THE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE

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TODAY WILL IMPACT THE COMMUNITY'S CHARACTER TOMORROW IN CONSIDERING WHETHER TO APPROVE THIS SPECIAL USE REQUEST FOR A DRIVE THROUGH ALONG AN ALREADY CONGESTED CORRIDOR, WE URGE YOU TO CAREFULLY WEIGH HOW AND WHETHER THE PROPOSED USE WILL CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TOWARD ACCOMPLISHING THESE GOALS, POLICIES, AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.

THERE ARE MANY USES FOR THE SITE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THOSE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES, BUT WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH USE WILL NOT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THESE CONCERNS.

ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE CLOSE OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE US, THE TESTIMONY WE'VE HEARD TODAY.

WE HAVE A TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE, UM, WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR US.

OH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, YOU CAN GO, YES, I HAVE A LOT OF FUN.

UM, I'M AN ARCHITECT AND I LIVE ON MERIDIAN ROAD, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS AREA AND I'VE SERVED ON PLANNING COMMITTEES AND A TASK FORCE FOR OVER 20 YEARS LOOKING AT THE VILLAGE CENTER OF LADY'S ISLAND.

AND SO THEY TALK ABOUT THE SIX-YEAR PLAN.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS, AND WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S A SLOW PROCESS.

I LOOKED UP FROM THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BETWEEN MERIDIAN ROAD AND I GO TO IN THE PAST 20 YEARS.

AND THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT WAS BUILT IN THE COUNTY.

EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN THERE LONGER THAN 20 YEARS.

THERE'S FOUR THAT WERE BUILT IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY'S BUILDING WAS THE HOSPITAL OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY NICE BUILDING, REALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE AREA.

AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPECIAL USE, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY STAFF FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN MET, BEING SO INVESTED IN THIS AREA, I DON'T FEEL LIKE ANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN MET WHEN MS. WHITE REALLY SPOKE OUT, OWNS 7.2 0.1 30 D ONE THAT IT'S NOT IN.

UM, KEEPING WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE LADY'S ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A DRIVE-THRU DOES THAT.

DOESN'T, UM, COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

AND THIS, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR FUTURE IS IN THAT AREA.

WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE NOT 70 YEAR OLD BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE ARE 20 PLUS YEAR OLD BUILDINGS.

SO WE WANT TO LOOK BE FORWARD, LOOKING, NOT BACKWARDS LOOKING, BUT THE DESIGN APPEARS TO MINIMIZE ANY ADVERSE EFFECT ON ADJACENT LANDS.

WE SEE WRECKS ALMOST EVERY DAY, TURN IT INTO BILL'S LIQUOR, WHERE THOSE LANES NARROW DOWN.

I MEAN, THAT'S AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON EVERYBODY AND THEN MINIMIZE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION TRAFFIC HAS BEEN COVERED A LOT, BUT LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, THERE'S A 35 INCH LIVE OAK, A 25 INCH LAVA FOR 45 INCH LAVA.

AND THE 32 INCH LEVEL MEN ARE ALL PROPOSED TO BE TAKEN OUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE OUR AREA BECAUSE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND TAKEN OUT THESE MAGNIFICENT SPECIMEN, LAVA OAKS IS NOT PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT.

SO I THINK IT'S A SLAM DUNK TO TURN THIS DOWN.

FIX PREEXISTING PROBLEMS, PROBLEMS THAT ARE PROPERLY MOURN BY THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE.

I GUESS WE REALLY, WE HAVE BEFORE US AN APPLICATION THAT I THINK CLEARLY MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY THAT ARE IN CD SECTION 4.1 POINT 70.

AND SO THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT MEET THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REVIEW STANDARDS THAT ARE IN CD SECTION 7.2 0.1 30, THE COUNTY STAFF SAYS IT DOES.

UM, DOES FREDERICK HAS SOME GOOD POINTS? BUT MOST OF WHAT I HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS THE TRAFFIC THERE IS HORRIBLE ALREADY.

DON'T ALLOW MORE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THAT'S A VERY EMOTIONALLY APPEALING ARGUMENT, BUT THERE IS A LONG LINE OF ESTABLISHED COURT CASES GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE U S SUPREME COURT.

AND THERE NOLAN AND DEALT WITH DECISIONS THAT SAY, YOU CAN REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO MITIGATE THE ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT HIS DEVELOPMENT'S GOING TO CAUSE, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE A DEVELOPER

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AND THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I HEAR RIGHT NOW.

THE PROBLEMS ARE ALREADY TOO BAD UNLESS HE FIXES ALL THOSE OTHER PROBLEMS. DON'T LET HIM DO HIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROPER BASIS FOR GRANTING FOR DENYING AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS.

I MEAN, IF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DEMONSTRATES THAT THERE IS A METHOD BY WHICH MR TRASK DEVELOPMENT CAN MITIGATE THE EFFECTS THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE THEN FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, YOU OUGHT TO BE ALLOWED TO PROCEED AND I'M WILLING TO RELY ON THE COUNTY STAFF'S PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION.

AND I THINK THAT THIS APPLICATION DOES MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND I'M READY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I THINK THAT THE DRIVE-THRU SPECIAL USE IS DESIGNED.

SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE A RIGHT AND LEFT OUT OF THERE.

THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO.

I THINK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL HELP MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC THAT BEST EIGHT CAN, BUT WE ARE, UM, APPROVING A SPECIAL USE IN A VERY SENSITIVE AREA THAT, UM, FRANKLY IS GOING TO BE DISASTER THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

ISN'T IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, ISN'T GOING TO GO FIX ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS, BUT IT'S ALSO, UM, UH, TO US TO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE WHETHER THIS SPECIAL USE IN THIS AREA WILL, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE, THERE'S NO TURNING.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO MIDDLE LANE THERE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO TAKE A LEFT OUT OF THERE.

UM, AND I THINK WHEN YOU TAKE A LEFT OUT OF THE GRAY CODE, THERE IS A MIDDLE LANE.

WHEN YOU TAKE A RIGHT THERE'S TWO LANES THERE, THERE'S NO WAY TO TAKE A LEFT OUT OF THERE.

THAT'S UH, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT SATISFIES THE SPECIAL USE TO LET A DRIVE THROUGH IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA BECAUSE OF THE ADVERSE EFFECTS.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT THAT WE CAN'T FIX THE PAST, BUT IS IT FREE THAT WE CAN ADD TO IT? AND THAT'S WHAT YEAH.

PROVIDED THAT THE DEVELOPER MITIGATES THE ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT HIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A COST AND THAT'S, THAT'LL BE ALL WORN OUT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, FROM WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING, ANY IMPACT, ANY IMPACT AT ALL, IT'S BAD.

THERE WAS NO LEEWAY WHATSOEVER TO ADD ANYTHING.

WELL, IF YOU'RE TELLING, IF YOU'RE TELLING A PROPERTY UNDER THAT HE CAN'T DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AT ALL, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GENERATE TRAFFIC, THEN I THINK YOU'VE PUT YOURSELF INTO THE POSITION OF A REGULATORY TAKING IT'S A FIFTH AMENDMENT TAKING AND THE COUNTY'S GOT TO GET OUT THEIR CHECKBOOK.

BUT THE FACT THAT HE HAS TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE OR SPECIAL USE INDICATES THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT, UNLESS SOMETHING IS CHANGED.

WELL, A SPECIAL USE IS, IS A USE THAT IS PRESUMPTIVELY PERMITTED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT REQUIRES A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF SCRUTINY.

AND THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, HERE, WE'RE HERE TO GO OVER AND TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT COMPLIES WITH THE SPECIAL USE STANDARDS.

AND THE COUNTY'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS SUBJECT SUBJECTS, THE, THEIR RECEIPT OF AN ACCEPTABLE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT IT DOES MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

IS IT INAPPROPRIATE THAT SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT WE WAIT UNTIL THIS BOARD WAY TO TELL THEM THE TRAFFIC AND WE CAN'T DO THAT? NO WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK CERTAINLY THAT'S WITHIN OUR POWER.

IF WE LEARNED TO TABLE THIS, TO PROCEED WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT NOW.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY, I DON'T SEE THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF A TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT THE COUNTY STAFF AND MS. BEETLE IS THEIR OUTSIDE ENGINEER ARE THE ONES WHO CAN HANDLE CORRECTLY.

AND THAT PURPOSE IS JUST TO MINIMIZE THE DRIVE-THRU APPROVED SPECIAL, USE THIS PROJECT, THE IMPACT OF, AND WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THAT THIS IS A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS THE HEART OF THE DILLARD CENTER RIGHT THERE.

I JUST THINK THE INTENT OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND TO USE THE SPECIAL USES TO BE ABLE TO ENTER AND EXIT OUT BOTH WAYS.

AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN DO THAT IN THAT AREA.

WELL, DON'T FORGET.

NOW THEY'RE GOING TO REDO THAT ROAD.

YOU'RE PROBABLY ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER AND ISSUE, BUT BE LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW TOO.

YOU STILL COME AND MAKE THE RIGHT HAND TURN OUT OF THERE.

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I MEAN, I LIKED THE IDEA OF HAVING A DUNKIN DONUTS.

IT'S JUST THAT LOCATION FOR ME, WHERE IT'S ALMOST SQUARE BOTTLES.

IT'S A BOTTLENECK THERE.

AND, AND, AND LIKE, UM, MITCHELL HAD STATED EARLIER, I MEAN, TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, THERE IS NO MEDIA IN THERE.

UM, YOU CAN ONLY CURRENTLY MAKE A SAFELY, MAKE A RIGHT TURN OUT OF THERE NOW.

AND TO MAKE A LEFT TURN INTO THAT PLACE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT AT TIMES IF YOU WERE INTO THAT, THAT, UH, NINE TO, I MEAN, SEVEN TO NINE HOUR, IT'LL BE A DISASTER THERE.

AND IF YOU HAVE SCHOOL GOING ON IN, IN THE MORNINGS, SO ALL THOSE TRAFFIC IS GENERATED.

THEY'RE DOING THAT HIGH PEAK TIME.

UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT CHAD IS SAYING AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST A TOUGH DECISION THAT WE'LL HAVE TO, TO MAKE, BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEFORE US, IS, DOES IT MEET THE SPECIAL USE? YES.

BUT, UH, FOR SOMEONE THAT TRAVELED THROUGH THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND SEE THE TRAFFIC THAT IS BEING GENERATED THERE NOW, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DRAW CONCERNS TO ME SEE A, THE PROPOSED, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE TO PREVENT THE, UM, THE ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THAT IF WE COULD SEE WHERE THE ROADS MIGHT CHANGE BECAUSE OF BETTER WHAT THE TRAFFIC'S IMPACT ANALYSIS WERE TO, UM, RESULT INTO TO SHOW HOW WE COULD MITIGATE THAT COMING OFF AND IN AND OUT OF THAT RESTAURANT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL ON, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT I THINK JUST APPROVING IT WITHOUT SEEING HOW THAT WILL BE MITIGATED IS MY CONCERN.

SO WOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD TO MAKE A MOTION? WE CAN CERTAINLY, I THINK ATTACH A REQUIREMENT TO IT.

THAT'D BE, OH, RIGHT OUT.

ONLY EXIT.

WHAT ABOUT TURNING LEFT IN ON ONE, THAT'S GOING TO BACK UP TRAFFIC AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE TURN OUT OF A GRECO INTO THAT CENTER LANE TOO.

AND THAT CONCERNS ME MORE THAN THE THAT'S BECAUSE THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE JOB OF THE, UH, THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER THROUGH A BELLY FEEL, WHICH IS REALLY GOING TO NGO IN CORE.

UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU NEED TO LET THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS DO THEIR JOB, UM, RATHER THAN MAKING SUPPOSITIONS ABOUT WHAT, UM, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE TRAFFIC.

CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY ON THE BOARD IS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

NO, BUT WE PUT LIKE MR. HAS, WE CLEARLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ATTACH THOSE SORTS OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IF WE THINK THEY ARE APPROPRIATE, YOU DO.

UM, UH, YES.

UM, THAT'S TRUE.

YOU DO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.

UM, UM, UH, I, UH, I JUST DO WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT, UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE SEEM TO BE HANGING ON THAT.

THIS GOES DOWN FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT GOES DOWN FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE ALREADY.

UM, AND, UH, SO I'M NOT QUITE BUYING INTO THE LOGIC THAT, UM, THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH SOMETHING GOING THERE BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE ALREADY.

UH, SO THEREFORE THAT'S THE EXISTING SITUATION.

UM, UH, I DO HAVE, UH, THE DRAFT TRAFFIC STUDY.

I DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE, UH, THE COUNTY DOING THEIR JOB.

UM, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT BELLY FEELS ON THE BOARD ABOUT, UH, UH, UM, WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN THERE, UM, WITHOUT ANY SORT OF ANALYSIS.

UM, UH, CERTAINLY YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.

UM, AND THEN I CAN GO FROM THERE.

AND, AND, AND SO THE NEXT STEP, I JUST THINK I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH BEING ABLE TO ANALYZE THE, THE EXACT ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, SEEING HOW THEY'RE GOING, IF THEY'RE GOING TO RESTRUCTURE ANY OF THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.

OH, CERTAINLY I THINK IT'S WITHIN OUR POWER TO TABLE THIS UNTIL DO, IF IT'S, IF IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO SAY, WE WANT TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THE TRAFFIC AND BACK ANALYSIS BEFORE WE ACT ON IT.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

DO WE WANT TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS RETURN? MY FEELING IS THAT IT DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS

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FOR THE SPECIAL USE.

I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS SAID IT DOES, BUT WE DO HAVE OUR INDEPENDENT THOUGHTS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MS. WHITE MADE THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPECIAL USE.

AND THEN THEY WERE IN HIS PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS BECAUSE REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ON THOSE.

SO DO WE WANT TO TABLE THIS, OR DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TODAY? IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

I MEAN, IF WE WANT SOMEONE TO PUT A MOTION OUT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, OR WE CAN TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND THAT WILL BE ENOUGH AT LEAST THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION BEFORE US, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

WELL, IF YOU READ THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COUNTY, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE HIM MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME PROTECTION IN THERE.

YOU CAN PUT EMOTIONAL FLORIDA.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST WHAT I THINK.

WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

THAT MOVE WAS CHAIRMAN.

I MOVE THAT.

WE FIND THAT THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE COUNTY, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THE TESTIMONY WE'VE HEARD TODAY, AND THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT WE FIND THAT THIS APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY AS SET FORTH IN CDC, SECTION 4.1 0.70.

AND THAT WE FURTHER FIND THAT THIS APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SET FORTH IN SECTION 7.2 0.1 30 OF THE CDC WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN REQUIRED BY THE DIRECTOR BE COMPLETED AND APPROVED BY THE STAFF BEFORE THEY ISSUE FINAL SRT APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND ALSO THAT THE PROJECT BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH SUCH DRB REVIEW AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEWS REQUIRED BY THE SRT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ABOUT THIS IT'S MOTION HOLD.

SO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS, AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR OF UPHOLDING OR GRANTING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

HE SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

SO NOW WE HAVE A TIDE MOTION, FAILS, MOTION FAILS.

AND I ANTICIPATE IF SOMEBODY MOVES TO THE DIET, THAT THAT MOTION IS GOING TO FAIL.

ALSO THAT BEING THE CASE WITH CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS PROJECT UNTIL WE HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BEFORE.

SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION WITH THAT OTHER PERSON OR, OR JUST WHEN WE GET US THIS SYRIA.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE HAVE THAT TOO.

WE'LL TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT, UNTIL THE TRAFFIC STUDIES IS RETURNED.

SO WE'D BE GOING TO TABLE THIS UNTIL IT.

NEW BUSINESS, THIS, WE NEED TO VOTE FOR NEW CHAIR AND YES, WE DON'T HAVE THAT FORM BEFORE US.

IT'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS RETURNED.

UH, MR. WILLIAMS PUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

CAN I GET WITH HIM SOMEWHAT IN A SECOND? SO THE MOTION'S BEEN MADE IN SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, THE MOTION HOLD.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT, UH, UNTIL WE GET THAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BACK THERE, ANY OLD BUSINESS,

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UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I LEARNED THAT THE CHAIRMAN AGAIN FROM THE NECK UP HERE.

SO I GUESS I'M BACK IN THE SEAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

YES, SIR.

AND MR. CHAD IS ROCKING SENSORS.

WHICH IS NOT DEFINED IN THE, UM, CORRECT.

SO I'M BACK IN THIS SEAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

GOOD.

THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS.

I MOVE, WE ADJOURN.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANTED, NO, I DON'T.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCESS IS, BUT I KNOW WHEN THIS MR. TRACKS PROJECT WAS EARLY ON, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE DEFINITION OF A BUILDING,

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AND SO SHOULD WE HAVE THAT BOND BECAUSE LEAVE THAT TO THE TOWN STAFF.

I WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

I MEAN, COUNTING STAFF, UM, THAT WAS THE OLD BUILDING WITH THE FRONT AND FUTURE CASES.

I MEAN, IF WE HAVE NOT PARTICULAR TO HIM, BUT GET YOUR CASES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, WE HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY THOUGH.

THAT'S CLEARLY SPELLS OUT WHEN DRIVE-THROUGHS ARE PERMITTED IN WHAT THE T FOUR DISTRICTS THAT THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE CANNOT GO AROUND THE BUILDING.

AND WE ADD IT AS STAFF OR THROUGH THE BUILDING, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CASE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL TO TRY TO KIND OF GET AROUND THE SEMANTICS.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT KIND OF SETTLES THAT QUESTION.

AND WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE, WELL FAR, JUST THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A BUILDING IS THAT IT IS CONDITIONED SPACE AND A PORTUS OPEN ON THREE SIDES, YOU KNOW, NOTHING COMPLICATED, BUT JUST SO THAT IT MIGHT BE THERE.

I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE PROPOSED, I THINK, BECAUSE IT CAN'T GO AROUND, CAN ENCOMPASS GO AROUND THE BUILDING OR THROUGH THE BUILDINGS.

SO THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH THE BUILDING.

THAT'S NOT, DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

IT MIGHT COME INTO PLAY FOR NOT A DRIVE THROUGH FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE KIND OF THING WHERE YOU IS THAT IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD UNTIL YOU GET A QUESTION LIKE THAT.

LIKES STOPS DOWN IN THE SUN, BUT TRIED TO SUE THE THOUGHT THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE REASON THAT STOPPED YOU.

CHECK THE JOURNAL.

SECOND CHAIRMAN Y'ALL HAVE A I'LL TAKE CARE OF NEXT YEAR.

THE COUNTY CHANNEL IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON VIDEO, ON DEMAND.

GO TO BUFORD COUNTY, SC.GOV, SCROLL DOWN TO PUBLIC MEETINGS, CLICK WATCH NOW, AND THEN CLICK THE VIDEO ON DEMAND BUTTON AND SELECT YOUR PROGRAM FROM MELISSA CALL TO ORDER IF YOU'D LIKE A DVD OF THIS PROGRAM, CLICK ON THE LINK ON THE RIGHT AND FILL OUT THE ORDER FORM.

AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THE COUNTY CHANNEL I'M NATALIE HEFTER.

AND THIS IS YOUR PAPER COUNTY MOMENT IN THE 1930S, HONEY HORN ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND WAS OWNED BY TWO MEN FROM NEW YORK, ALFRED LOOMIS AND LANDON THORNE.

THEY ENTERTAINED HUNTERS AND ENJOYED THEIR VISITS TO HILTON HEAD, BUT WHILE THEY WERE NOT HERE, ALFRED LOOMIS HAD A LABORATORY AT HIS HOME IN TUXEDO PARK, NEW YORK, THERE, HE ENTERTAINED SOME OF THE NATION'S BEST SCIENTIFIC MINDS.

HE WAS INVOLVED WITH THE INVENTION OF LORAN RADAR SYSTEM AND FUNDED MANY SCIENTIFIC PROJECTS DURING WORLD WAR TWO.

HIS COUSIN WAS SECRETARY OF WAR, HENRY STIMPSON.

SO HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN MANY OF THE PROJECTS DURING THE WAR.

IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE SLEEPY LITTLE HILTON HEAD ISLAND FULL OF ITS RATTLESNAKES, HAVING HOSTS TO ALFRED LOOMIS AND SOME OF HIS SCIENTIFIC MINDS, BUT THEY DID ENJOY THEIR VISITS TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

I'M NATALIE HEFTER.

AND THIS HAS BEEN YOUR VIEW FOR COUNTY MOMENT TO SEE MORE B FOR COUNTY MOMENTS, GO TO THE BUFORD COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB.

I'M SO EXCITED.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS MOVIE.

I HOPE IT'S BETTER THAN THE BOOK.

YEAH, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S FINALLY SHOWING HERE.

PROBABLY WON'T BE AS GOOD AS THE BOOK YOU ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK WILL.

NO, BUT I HEARD ABOUT IT STILL.

IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS GOOD.

THE BODY

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YOU THREW IT OUT BAG OF GARBAGE OUT OF YOUR WINDOW, YOU HAVE LICENSE, REGISTRATION AND PROOF OF INSURANCE DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.

WHEN YOU LOOK UP AT THE NIGHT SKY, JUST ABOUT EVERY POINT OF LIGHT YOU SEE ARE STARS LOCATED IN OUR MILKY WAY.

GALAXY A GIANT SPIRAL DISC 100,000 LIGHT YEARS ACROSS THERE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 200 BILLION STARS IN THE MILKY WAY, ALL ROTATING AROUND A SUPER MASSIVE BLACK HOLE AT THE CENTER, BUT WHAT BINDS ALL THESE STARS TOGETHER? WHAT KEEPS THEM FROM SLINGSHOTTING OUT INTO SPACE.

IT'S THE SAME FORCE THAT KEEPS THE EARTH IN ORBIT AROUND THE SUN, THE MOON IN ORBIT AROUND THE EARTH AND CAUSES THIS APPLE TO FALL TO THE GROUND GRAVITY IN THE LATE 16 HUNDREDS, SIR, ISAAC NEWTON DISCOVERED AND DESCRIBED GRAVITY.

HE DEVELOPS THE LAW OF GRAVITATION TO EXPLAIN THE FORCE OF ATTRACTION BETWEEN TWO OBJECTS.

HE FOUND THAT THE CLOSER TWO OBJECTS ARE THE MORE FORCE THEY EXERT ON ONE ANOTHER.

AND THE MORE MASSIVE AND OBJECT IS THE MORE FORCE IT HAS.

HE CREATED A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA TO DESCRIBE THIS FORCE OF ATTRACTION AND SHOWED THAT THE SAME GRAVITY THAT PULLED THE APPLE TO THE GROUND WAS WHAT HELD THE MOON IN ORBIT AROUND THE EARTH.

GRAVITY IS THE FORCE THAT ORGANIZES ALL OF THE MATTER IN THE UNIVERSE.

EACH OF THESE STUDENTS REPRESENTS A CLUMP OF MATTER IN SPACE, THEIR SIZE OR THEIR MASS IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF LETTERS IN THEIR NAME.

SO THE MORE LETTERS THEY HAVE IN THEIR NAME, THE HIGHER THE FORCE, THEY EXERT ON THEIR NEIGHBORS.

NOTICE THAT OVER TIME, THE MATTER COLLIDES AND CLUMPS TOGETHER NEW, AND THIS LAW OF GRAVITATION WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AT DESCRIBING THE MOTIONS OF CELESTIAL BODIES THAT IT HELD UP FOR NEARLY 230 YEARS USING NEWTON'S MATH, ASTRONOMERS WERE ABLE TO ACCURATELY PREDICT THE ORBITS OF ALL THE PLANETS, INCLUDING THE DISCOVERY OF NEPTUNE, EXCEPT FOR MERCURY.

MERCURY HAS SEEMED TO BE ZOOMING AROUND THE SUN SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN EXPECTED.

ENTER ALBERT EINSTEIN IN 1915, HE PUBLISHED HIS GENERAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY, WHICH IMPROVED UPON THE LIMITATIONS OF NEWTON'S WORK EINSTEIN'S THEORY, BROUGHT SPACE AND TIME TOGETHER INTO AN ENTITY NOW CALLED SPACE TIME.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE FABRIC OF THE UNIVERSE AND ANYTHING THAT HAS MASS DISTORTS SPACE TIME.

SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS STRETCHY FABRIC TO REPRESENT SPACE TIME, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT MATTER CURVES SPACE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE A MORE MASSIVE OBJECT SPACE-TIME IS CURVED MORE.

SO THE LARGER OBJECT HAS A LARGER GRAVITATIONAL FORCE, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE OBJECT, THE MORE CURVED SPACE TIME IS WE CAN DEMONSTRATE HOW THE MORE MASSIVE OBJECT HAS A STRONGER GRAVITATIONAL FORCE BY THE RATE AT WHICH THE MARBLE FALLS INTO IT.

OBJECTS ARE NOT ALWAYS FALLING IN.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE ORBITING IN SPACE, JUST LIKE PLANETS ORBIT AROUND STARS.

THEY'RE MOVING FAST ENOUGH NOT TO FALL IN TO THE STAR, BUT SLOW ENOUGH THAT THEY DON'T ESCAPE OUT INTO OUTER SPACE.

NOW IN OUR DEMONSTRATION, THE MARBLES ARE EVENTUALLY FALLING IN TO OUR STAR, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S FRICTION IN THE VACUUM OF SPACE, THERE'S NO FRICTION TO SLOW THEM DOWN AND THEY JUST BASICALLY ORBIT INDEFINITELY.

WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT AS THE PLANETS GET CLOSER TO THE STAR, THEY ORBIT MORE QUICKLY BECAUSE SPACE-TIME IS MORE STRETCHED THERE.

AND IF WE HAVE A REALLY MASSIVE PLANET GOING AROUND THE STAR, IT ACTUALLY CAUSES THE STAR TO WOBBLE.

AND THAT'S HOW ASTRONOMERS LOOK FOR PLANETS AROUND OTHER STARS.

THEY LOOK FOR THE WOBBLE EINSTEIN'S THEORY OF RELATIVITY ALSO SUCCESSFULLY PREDICTED GRAVITATIONAL WAVES, ANY OBJECT MOVING THROUGH SPACE TIME, CREATE SMALL RIPPLES IN THE FABRIC OF THE UNIVERSE.

DETECTING GRAVITATIONAL WAVES WOULD PROVIDE FURTHER EVIDENCE CONFIRMING EINSTEIN'S THEORY, AS WELL AS GIVE US DETAILS ABOUT MAJOR ASTRONOMICAL

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EVENTS.

THE PROBLEM IS ONLY MASSIVE EVENTS SUCH AS THE COLLISION BETWEEN TWO BLACK HOLES WOULD CREATE WAVES LARGE ENOUGH TO BE DETECTED.

AND EVEN THEN WOULD ONLY CAUSE A DISTORTION 1% OF THE DIAMETER OF AN ATOM BY THE TIME IT REACHED EARTH, AMAZINGLY GRAVITATIONAL WAVES WERE DETECTED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2016 IN AN EXPERIMENT CALLED LIGO WHERE THE LASER INTERFEROMETER GRAVITATIONAL WAVE OBSERVATORY GRAVITATIONAL WAVES MIGHT HELP US UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE BIGGEST MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE SUCH AS DARK MATTER AND DARK ENERGY, WHICH MAKE UP THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE UNIVERSE, BUT HAVE NOT YET BEEN OBSERVED DIRECTLY.

THERE IS STILL MUCH TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT GRAVITY SCIENTISTS HAVE YET TO DEVELOP A THEORY THAT COMBINES OUR UNDERSTANDING OF GRAVITY WITH THE QUANTUM WORLD AT THE VERY SMALLEST SCALE.

BUT THE NEXT TIME YOU LOOK UP AT THE STARS, THINK ABOUT THE INVISIBLE FORCE, ACCELERATING YOUR FEET INTO THE GROUND, THE EARTH AROUND THE SUN AND ALL THE STARS THAT ARE GALAXY AROUND THE SUPERMASSIVE BLACK HOLE AT ITS CORE.

THE ONE-STOP SHOP IS LOCATED IN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN ROOM 2 25 BEFORE THE ONE-STOP SHOP PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THAT.

YOU HAD TO GO UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS, AND POSSIBLY ONCE YOU WERE UPSTAIRS, YOU HAD TO GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS TO SEE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

SO WITH A ONE-STOP SHOP, WE CONSOLIDATED THOSE.

SO IT'S ONE LOCATION, THE BUSINESS LICENSE DEPARTMENT AND THE BUILDING CODES DEPARTMENT.

IT'S LITERALLY ONE STOP FOR YOUR PERMITTING AND LICENSING.

WHAT CAN YOU DO TO KEEP YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS SAFE? DON'T PROVIDE EASY ACCESS, ESPECIALLY TO NARCOTIC MEDICATIONS, INVENTORY, YOUR MEDICINE CABINETS, ESPECIALLY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, SAFELY DISCARD, OUTDATED, OR UNUSED MEDICATIONS PROPERLY.

DID YOU KNOW, BUFORD COUNTY HAS MANY LOCATIONS FOR YOU TO DISPOSE YOU ARE OUTDATED OR UNUSED MEDICATIONS.

THE LONG AWAITED SPANISH MOSS TRAIL IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

THIS 12 FOOT WIDE, 14 MILE LONG TRAIL SYMBOLIZES A NEW ERA OF COOPERATION BRINGING TOGETHER FEDERAL STATE COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, UTILITY PROVIDERS, AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

IT REALLY REPRESENTS A GREAT EXPRESSION OF REGIONALISM AND INTER-GOVERNMENTAL COOPERATION, UH, AND, UH, COOPERATION FROM BOTH THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR WHEN EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER.

IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET THE EXCITEMENT AND COOPERATION SURROUNDING THE OPENING OF THE RECREATIONAL TRAIL BRINGS US BACK TO A MOMENT IN HISTORY MORE THAN 140 YEARS AGO WHEN THE FIRST SPIKE WAS DRIVEN FOR THE PORT ROYAL RAILROAD, THE TRACKS OF THE PORT ROYAL RAILROAD WERE LAID TO CONNECT THIS HARBOR AND PORT RAUL TO THE TOWN OF EMC AND EVENTUALLY AUGUSTA GEORGIA FUELING TRAY, INDUSTRIAL GROWTH, PHOSPHATE MINING, TRUCK FARMING, AND EVENTUALLY FOSTERING THE GROWTH OF PARASAIL AND IN THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION.

BUT BY THE BEGINNING OF THE 21ST CENTURY, THE RAILROAD WAS NO LONGER ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.

AND AFTER LOSING ITS LAST CUSTOMER PORT TO PORT ROYAL, THE RAILROAD CEASED OPERATION, I RODE THE TRAIN OUT OF THE MOC IN THE SIXTIES, BUT MY MOTHER AND MY GRANDPARENTS, AND GREAT-GRANDPARENTS RODE THE TRAIN OUT OF THE DEPOT.

I MEAN, THERE WAS TO GO DOWN TO THE DEPOT AND GO UP TOWARDS AUGUSTA OR TAKE A SWITCH UP TO GREENVILLE.

THIS WAS COMMON.

I MEAN, THEY WERE ON THAT, UH, ON THAT LINE ALL THE TIME.

THAT WAS OUR LIFEBLOOD.

THE LOSS OF THE PORT ROYAL RAILROAD ACTUALLY OPENED UP GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE REGION, FEDERAL RAIL BANKING OFF OF THE POSSIBILITY, PRESERVING THE RAIL CORRIDOR AND PREVENTING THE LAND FROM REVERTING BACK TO HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, THEREFORE OPENING UP

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THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A RECREATIONAL TRAIL AND LEAVING OPEN THE POSSIBILITY RESTORING RAIL SERVICE IN THE FUTURE.

YOU'VE HEARD JASPER AND WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY HAD A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THE PROPERTY, UH, WENT INTO THE RAIL TRAIL PROGRAM TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THEIR UTILITIES.

SO IT WAS A LOGICAL, UH, PARTNER, UH, TO SEEK OUT, UH, FOR THEM TO PICK UP THE BALL AND MOVE IT FORWARD WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE 26 MILE.

OF COURSE THEY REMOVE THE RAILS TIES AND BALLAST TO SALVAGE VALUE, HELP THEY OFFSET THE COST OF THE PURCHASE.

THEY ALSO DEEDED THE SURFACE RIGHTS TO BUFORD COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RECREATIONAL TRAIL.

HOWEVER, PAVING A TRAIL IS EXPENSIVE, AVERAGING $500,000, A MILE THREE AND FOUR TRESTLES, SEVERAL DIFFICULT ROAD CROSSINGS.

AND YOU HAVE A VERY DAUNTING TASK.

ENTER THE JAMES M. COX FOUNDATION.

THEY OFFERED TO FUND THE FIRST MILE OF THE TRAIL AND TURBINE THE PLANNING, MARKETING, AND TECHNICAL EXPERTISE FROM THE PATH FOUNDATION AND ATLANTA BASED GROUP TO PAVE THE WAY FOR FUTURE MILES OF THE TRAIL.

WELL, UH, WE WERE SENT DOWN BY THE COX FAMILY TO ASSESS NOT ONLY THE CORE ITSELF, BUT ALSO THE GROUP INDIVIDUALLY.

WE WERE TRYING TO PUT THEM TOGETHER AND SEE IF IT WAS A BIBLE PROJECT.

SO I CAME DOWN AND TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND EVERYBODY SEEMED LIKE THEY COULD GET TOGETHER.

THIS GENEROUS OFFER, BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND CULMINATED IN THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE FIRST MILE OF TRAIL.

WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, COMPLETE THE COMMUNITY.

IT HAS CONCRETE TESTIMONY TO THE SUCCESS AND THE PROMISE OF THE TRAIL.

ON ANY GIVEN DAY, YOU WILL SEE EARLY MORNING DOG WALKERS, JOGGERS, SENIORS, LOOKING TO REMAIN PHYSICALLY ACTIVE FISHERMEN, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IMPROVED WATER ACCESS, EVEN COMMUTERS BEATING THE RISING COST OF GASOLINE TRAILS, CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO RE INTEGRATE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY INTO OUR DAILY LIVES, PROMOTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND FITNESS TRAILS TO PROMOTE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES.

THE MOST DESIRED NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES SOUGHT BY HOMEOWNERS LOOKING TO RELOCATE OUR TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE TRAILS, CREATE TRANSPORTATION CHOICES.

A GOOD NETWORK OF TRAILS OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY FOR RESIDENTS TO CHOOSE, TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND CYCLE OR WALK FOR A CHANGE.

THIS HELPS FREE UP OUR CONGESTED ROADWAYS AND GIVES OUR RESIDENTS MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMBAT RISING FUEL COSTS.

FINALLY, THE TRAIL PROMISES TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND INCREASED TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES, BOTH WHICH WILL FUEL ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE REGION.

MANY FACTORS CAME TOGETHER TO MAKE THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE.

THE SUCCESS OF THE TRAIL IS THE RESULT OF SHARED VISION AND A LARGER COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU CAN GET THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE POUND, THE TRAILS FOUNDATION, THE COX FOUNDATION, AND EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER AT THE BEAUTIFUL MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, THE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY TO WORK ON A COMMUNITY PROJECT THAT THAT'S A TERRIFIC FEAT.

AND IT CERTAINLY SPEAKS TO THE MERIT OF, OF THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST IN THIS.

YEAH, I MEAN, REGIONALISM IS THE WORD OF THE DAY.

I THINK IN THERE, THERE WAS A TIME PERHAPS WHEN, UH, IT WAS, UH, PEOPLE WERE ACTING UNILATERALLY, BUT I THINK TODAY WE HAVE, WE'VE LONG SINCE GOTTEN PAST THE POINT WHERE WE'RE DOING THAT.

AND WE REALIZE THAT WHAT WE DO AFFECTS THE OTHER PERSON.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON JOINT PROJECTS ALL THE TIME.

AND THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THAT.

UM, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS URGENTLY NEEDS BLOOD AND PLATELET DONATIONS AND ASKS ALL HEALTHY DONORS TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT, TO GIVE NOW WITH THE CORONA VIRUS OUTBREAK, IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN A SUFFICIENT BLOOD SUPPLY.

YOUR BLOOD DONATION IS CRITICAL AND CAN HELP SAVE LIVES.

PLEASE SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TODAY, DOWNLOAD THE BLOOD DONOR APP, VISIT RED CROSS BLOOD.ORG OR CALL ONE 800 RED CROSS TODAY.

YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

WASH YOUR HANDS FIRST.

YOU NEED SOME, SO THEN SCRUB FOR 20 SECONDS.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CLOCK NEAR YOU, THEN SING THE ABC SONG.

BE SURE TO SCRUB BACK UNDER YOUR FINGERNAILS AND BETWEEN YOUR FINGERS, DRY YOUR HANDS WITH A CLEAN TOWEL OR A PAPER TOWEL FOR MORE INFORMATION, GO TO WWW.CDC.GOV/CLEAN HANDS.

DIFFERENT COUNTY IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND WE'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED THE COUNTY CHANNEL YOUR SOURCE FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BUFORD COUNTY, FROM COUNTY COUNCIL AND MUNICIPALITIES SCHOOL, BOARD AND LOCAL EVENTS.

THE COUNTY CHANNEL.

WE'LL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE FOR A COMPLETE LISTING OF THE COUNTY CHANNEL SCHEDULE.

GO TO BUBER COUNTY S C.GOV,

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SCROLL DOWN AND CLICK ON WATCH NOW AND CHOOSE YOUR SELECTION FOR LIVE COVERAGE OF MEETINGS, BOARDS, AND COMMISSIONS.

IT'S THE COUNTY CHANNEL.

I'M JOE BOGUS, AND I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH THE BUFORD COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.

I'VE BEEN A BOARD MEMBER MOST RECENTLY FINANCE CHAIR FOR THE COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM.

THIS HAS BEEN A VERY REWARDING AND ENRICHING EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY SINCE I BEGAN THE BOARD, MY BOARD TERM DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE GREAT RECESSION WHEN HE HAD VERY FEW BOOKS AND VERY FEW VISITORS.

BUT OVER TIME, THE BOARD AND LIBRARY LEADERSHIP HAD MANAGED TO REBUILD OUR FINANCE, THAT WE'RE SPENDING MORE MATERIALS NOW THAN EVER BEFORE.

AND IN A GREATER VARIETY, BOTH HARD COPY AND DIGITAL GROWTH IN BUFORD COUNTY MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO CAREFULLY HUSBAND OUR RESOURCES.

AND THIS IS WHERE VOLUNTEERS IN THE LIBRARY PART DO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

SUSAN AND I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 18 YEARS AND WE KNOW THE POSITIVE IMPACT LIBRARIES CAN MAKE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

TODAY'S LIBRARY IS A NEW TOWN HALL, FULL OF VIBRANT MIXTURE OF PROGRAMS AND OFFERINGS.

AS A BOARD MEMBER, I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE IMPACT THAT WE CAN MAKE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE PEOPLE SPEND THEIR TIME AND TALENTS.

I'M MAKING BUFORD COUNTY A BETTER PLACE.

THIS IS OUR HOME, AND THIS IS WHY I MAKE THIS INVESTMENT IN BOTH MY TIME AND MEN IN MY COMMUNITY.

THIS VERY BRIEFLY IS WHY SERVE, WHY I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER SPENDING YOUR TIME ALSO FOR THE BUFORD COUNTY LIBRARY.