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AND I HEARD SOMEONE SAY IT WOULD BE PROBABLY APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T THINK I KNOW EVERYBODY, BUT I MADE THE INTRODUCTION.
FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS WALTER MAC.
I'VE NEVER BEEN THREE OR FOUR AT BARKLOW.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH DISTRICT I'M REPRESENTING, BUT I'M FROM BLUFFTON.
SO, UH, NICE TO MEET EVERYONE.
HEY, I'M MARK THERE REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE AND I'M KIND OF LIKE FORWARD.
I DON'T KNOW MY DISTRICT, EITHER DISTRICT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS SIX, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO BAKE WEB.
AND I THINK I'M DISTRICT TWO RYAN SPAWNING HERE REPRESENTING BLUFFTON.
AND I'M ALSO FROM BLUFFTON, WHICH I BELIEVE IS DISTRICT NINE.
AND WE HAVE FOOD FROM NINE, BUT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING DISTRICT EIGHT IS NOT A PAROCHIAL ENDEAVOR.
MY MOM, UM, HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND I'M LIKE MOST OF THE REST OF YOU.
I DON'T REMEMBER MY DISTRICT NUMBER.
AND WITH THAT, UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM LEADING DAUGHTER.
I GUESS EVERYBODY I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO AT LEAST REVIEWED THE AGENDA AND THE MINUTES.
SO AT THIS TIME, UH, CAN WE MOVE TO, UH, IT'S UH, UH, AGENDA THAT INDICATED SECOND TO MOVE INTO THE SECOND? IS THAT THE SCHOOL OR THE FAVOR? AYE.
ALSO THE, THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING WERE SENT OUT AND I HOPE AT SOME POINT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO AT LEAST REVIEW THEM.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S NO CHANGE OR ALTERATION OR ERECTION, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BEGIN GAIL.
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MEGA AS PRINTED ALL IN FAVOR.10 MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AT ALL.
AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THAT, WE WILL, UH, KIND OF WHAT WE DO IS SET IT TIME ALREADY FULL, UH, CITIZEN COMMON.
AND THAT'D BE INTRODUCE EVERYBODY.
WE DIDN'T INTRODUCE IN ATTENDANCE, BUT WE VISITED A GOOD TIME IN JUVIE.
DARREN IS A CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THE LAND TRUST.
SO YOU TELL THEM YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DIFFERENCES AND PUT THE DATE.
WELL, WITH FORWARD, I THINK IS ALWAYS UP TO THE FULL DISCUSSION ITEM.
NUMBER SIX, LET'S GO TO THE STAFF SECTION RIGHT HERE.
YOU WOULD BRING THE POWERPOINT.
I'LL, I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER, UM, TO KIND OF BACKGROUND FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
UM, WE HAVE MET, UM, A GOOD NUMBER OF TIMES THOSE OPEN LAND TRACKS, ANDY FOR COUNTY STAFF, TO TALK ABOUT THE WAYS WE CAN ALL BE MORE INFORMED AS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AS POSSIBLE WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE BIG DECISIONS, BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW RIGHT NOW YOU SEE THE PROJECTS FOR A DUE DILIGENCE VOTE AND THEN WE GO OFF AND WE DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR A VOTE UP OR DOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE BULK OF THE WORK THAT HAPPENS IN THAT PERIOD, UM, INCLUDES SOME THINGS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THINNER.
LIKE WHAT DOES THE EASEMENT LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE THE CONSERVATION VALUES OF THE PROPERTY? UM, AND I THINK THE MORE WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS UPFRONT, SO LESS OFTEN WE WILL HAVE CONCERNS AT QUOTE UNQUOTE, LIKE THE 11TH HOUR OR THE END OF A PROJECT BECAUSE, UM, WE ALL START WITH A BROADER UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS PROPERTY MAY BE WORTH SPENDING THE DUE DILIGENCE DOLLARS ON, UM, OR MAYBE WORTH ULTIMATELY PROTECTING.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO AS STAFF IS GO THROUGH A TYPICAL EASEMENT.
I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, THAT EASEMENTS ARE NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL, BUT THAT'S, WE CAN CREATE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL TEMPLATE.
UM, WE SHARED THAT WITH COUNTY STAFF AND LOOK AT HOW THAT COMPORT WITH THE COUNTY CODE AND WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND WHERE THE EASEMENT TEMPLATE, UM, FOR THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAMS CAN BE IMPROVED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.
UM, AND SO THAT IS THE HOPE THAT W WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY WILL HELP US ALL BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, THE AVAILABLE EASEMENT TERMS WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES CONSERVATION VALUES, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, DEBATE AND SHARE, AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE ACHIEVE THE BEST OUTCOME FOR BEAVER COUNTY.
SO WHATEVER THE COMPUTER SCREEN, THE SCREEN POWERPOINT, THE PICTURE OF THE GOOD TATTOOS, MOM, YOU SEE IT, IS IT ON PRESENTER VIEW FOR EVERYBODY, OR DO YOU SEE THE SLIDES ON THE SIDE TOO? AWESOME.
SO WE WANT TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS AND REALLY HAVE THIS BE A DISCUSSION.
THERE ARE HANDOUT AT THE END, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN HAVE THIS POWERPOINT TO LOOK BACK ON TOO.
UM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE THIS HOME AND THINK ABOUT IT AND THINK ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL BY SOME OF THESE IDEAS, COME BACK WITH FEEDBACK, AND WE CAN REALLY START 20, 22 WITH, UM, KIND OF, UH, A UNITED FRONT ON, UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT, HOW DOES THAT IT USED THE EASEMENT AS A TOOL? UM, SO I WANTED TO START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT VERY MUCH ROOTS WHAT WE DO AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AMANDA, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM AT LARGE, AND THIS IS OFTEN SOMETHING I SHARE AN OUTREACH GROUP, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM BEGAN OVER 20 YEARS AGO OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS.
AND HAVING JUST GONE THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS, WE'VE SEEN THOSE GOALS KIND OF RE-ENERGIZED UM, THAT THIS PROGRAM IS A TOOL FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT,
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THE SCHOOLS TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY.IT'S A TOOL TO PROTECT IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DRIVERS IN THE COUNTY, LIKE THE MILITARY AND LIKE THE TOURISM AND FISHING INDUSTRY THAT DEPEND ON HEALTHY WATER.
UM, AND IT'S A CONSERVATION FINANCE INCENTIVE FOR LANDOWNERS WHO WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING WITH THEIR LAND.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU NEED A LITTLE, UM, LITTLE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO, UM, TO DO SO BECAUSE WE KNOW THE DEVELOPERS ARE OFFERING ALL THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THEY POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, AND JUST ON THE WAY OVER HERE, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE WASHINGTON POST TODAY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE SHOULD BYPASS CHARLESTON AND COME TO BUFORD.
SO IF YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE URGENCY OF OUR WORK, READ THE HEADLINE ALONE, AND YOU WILL STAY UP AT NIGHT.
UM, 72% OF VOTERS SUPPORTED THE PROGRAM AT THE LAST BOND REFERENDUM.
THAT'S WHEN THE MOST RECENT MONEY WAS RAISED.
AND, UM, IN THESE NUMBERS ARE OUTDATED SLIGHTLY NOW.
UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT 50 50 WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTIES, WE'VE PROTECTED WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND PROPERTY PROTECTED WITH SIMPLE.
AND SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THE EASEMENT.
UM, ALSO WANT TO SHARE TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
I MEAN, YEAH, THE MONIES THAT WERE USED TO SUPPORT BOTH THE EASEMENT AND THE FEE SIMPLE ACQUISITIONS WERE ALL OUT OF THE BOND ISSUE.
SO IT'S NOT PARTNERSHIP MONEY AND OUR MONEY.
IT WAS JUST, OH, NO, THE PARTNER PARTNER MONEY CAN BE USED TOWARDS THE PROJECTS AND CAN BE BREASTFEED, SIMPLE ACQUISITION, NOT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE HAD PARTNER MONEY INVOLVED IN THE 13,000 IN THE 12TH.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS THIS YEAR AND Y'ALL HAVE SEEN GUEST SPEAKERS FROM SOME OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S HISTORIC MITCHELLVILLE OR NATURE CONSERVANCY OR GROUPS LIKE OSI, YOU KNOW, MILITARY NRCS AS PARTNER FUNDS HELP OUR TAX DOLLARS GO FURTHER.
UM, SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
I UPDATED IT, BUT IT MUST NOT HAVE UPDATED ON THE LINK.
THAT'S BY THE WAY, DID IT, YOU CAN SKIP THIS ONE.
UH, AND THIS ONE AGAIN, THAT THERE WAS SOME REDUNDANCY.
UM, SO WHEN I SPEAK TO GROUPS ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM, I DO RELY ON A LOT OF PICTURES AND I'VE JUST THOUGHT, IT'D BE GOOD TO START US OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF VISUAL ORIENTATION.
THIS IS NEW RIVERSIDE, AND IT REALLY SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE HAS BEEN PROTECTED WITH THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM.
UM, HISTORIC RICE FIELDS, MARITIME FOREST WETLANDS, UPLAND.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WE ENDED UP THE CONTRAST IS TO, IS THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.
AND I'M NOT PICKING ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO PICK ON ONE PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU DO NOT RESPOND TO THE CONSERVATION VALUES OF THE LAND.
AND THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT DO RESPOND TO CONSERVATION VALUES, AND THEY'RE SIMPLY PLACES THAT SHOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THEIR CONSERVATION VALUES.
BUT IT'S REALLY DRAMATIC FROM THE SKY.
WHEN YOU SEE THOSE TWO IMAGES, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, I THINK ALSO THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF SOME FARMLAND, UNSAFE HELENA.
UM, ANOTHER, JUST REALLY STUNNING AERIAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE, WE HAVE A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX TO INCENTIVIZE LAND PROTECTION, ESPECIALLY FOR AGRICULTURAL LAND, UM, IN PLACES LIKE ST.
HELENA WE'VE SPENT RESOURCES, UH, DOING AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE'VE ALSO SPENT RESOURCES, PROTECTING PLACES THAT ARE JOINED BY OUR PUBLIC WATER BODIES THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ENJOY TAYLOR AND I ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE PICTURE.
UM, YEAH, THERE HASN'T BEEN MORE TASKS.
I MEAN, SO, UM, THIS IS A KAYAKING TRIP THAT WE DID, UH, LAST YEAR ON NEW YEAR'S DAY ON THE NEW RIVER.
AND WE PADDLED, UM, BY 300 ACRES THAT BEAVER COUNTY HAD, UH, PROTECTED WITH THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM.
UM, THEY ARE EASEMENTS, WE ENJOYED THE FACT THAT THEY WERE PROTECTED BECAUSE WE WERE PADDLING THE RIVER ITSELF ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, WHERE YOU SEE KIND OF THE, UH, YELLOWY GRASSES, UM, BROWNISH GRASSES, UM, THAT'S, UH, NEAR PROXIMATE TO THE CITY OF PORTERVILLE.
UM, AND IT IS AN UNPROTECTED DROP.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE PROTECT LAND FOR OUR OWN RECREATION AND WATER QUALITY AS WELL.
UM, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, AND THEN FOREST PLAN, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ECONOMIC DRIVERS.
AND, UM, THIS IS A FARM PROTECTED WITH RURAL AND CRITICAL AND SCHOLAR DOLLARS IN THE BURTON AREA WHERE TAYLOR AND I, UM, HAD THE CHANCE TO BE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL WITH IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM THE LAND PROTECTION.
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UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT I SHARE WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM.THEY RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE BOND REFERENDUM, AND I THINK BECOME AN INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH EASTMAN, WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE CONSERVATION VALUE AND ENSURE THEIR CONSERVATION VALUE IN THE FUTURE.
SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER AERIAL IMAGE OF THREE SISTERS FARM, WHICH IS AN OKAPI RIVER FARM, UM, PROTECTED BY THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND PROGRAM AND THE OAK, IF YOU'VE EVER HAD BEEN ANOTHER FOCAL POINT OF THIS PROGRAM AS WELL, UM, REALLY FROM A WATER QUALITY BREATH MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE OTT AREA, UM, IT'S VERY REAL.
AND THEN LET'S JUST SKIP AHEAD A COUPLE, CAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FREDERICK TELLING US, SHOWING YOU THE LANDS PROTECTED.
THEY'RE GOING THAT'S THE EIGHTH PATIENT AREA KEEPS GOING.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR 2020 SNAPSHOT, WHICH WILL UPDATE FOR YOU IN JANUARY WHEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, YEAR-END REVIEW.
SO WHEN WE START WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WE START ROOTED IN ALL OF THE APPLICABLE LAWS.
UM, CONSERVATION PURPOSES ARE DEFINED UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
UM, THINGS LIKE PROTECTION OF RELATIVELY NATURAL HABITAT PROVISION OF OPEN SPACE, UM, FOR SCENIC ENJOYMENT, PURSUANT PURSUANT TO A CLEARLY DELINEATED FEDERAL POLICY, UM, OF WHICH WE HAVE MANY IN SOUTH CAROLINA OR FEDERAL STATE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT POLICY OF WHICH THE POLICIES WOULD BE FOR COUNTY AS ONE.
UM, AND THEN THERE ARE STATE PURPOSES FOR CONSERVATION.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THIS WRITTEN OUT FOR YOU JUST WANT TO GO OVER IT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
UM, CONSERVATION PURPOSES UNDER STATE LAW ARE SIMILAR TO PROMOTE PROTECTS THE PROPERTY ASPECTS OF THE PROPERTY, ENSURING AVAILABILITY FOR AG AND FORESTRY.
RECREATIONAL USE EDUCATIONAL USE PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES ARE TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE WATER QUALITY.
AND THANKFULLY OUR BOND REFERENDUM BUILDS ON BOTH OF THOSE TWO PURPOSES THAT WE HAVE THE THREE TIERS OF GOVERNMENT ALIGNED WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE PROTECT LAND AND WHERE WE CAN SPEND OUR MONEY.
THE BOND REFERENDUM LANGUAGE HELPS US DEFINE THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE TEXT NATURE, THE AGE WHEN, WHEN WE BUY AN EASEMENT ON A PROPERTY, UM, THAT OBVIOUSLY REDUCES FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY.
HOW IS THAT HANDLED BY BUFORD COUNTY FROM A TECH STANDPOINT? I ASSUME MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE, ARE TAXED AT FARM, RIGHT? DOES IT STAY THE SAME THAT THE VALUE OF PROPERTY DOWN FOR TAX PURPOSES, OR I DO THINK MOST OF THE PROPERTIES WE'VE PROTECTED WERE, UH, OF THE ACREAGE THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR AG OR FORESTRY TAX EXEMPTION.
YOU HAVE TO BE OVER FIVE OR 10 ACRES, UM, QUALIFIED.
SO CERTAINLY MANY OF OUR PROPERTIES NEED THE ACRES.
SPECIAL-ED I WOULD IMAGINE FOR THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, MATT, THAT IT'S A REASSESSMENT QUESTION AND IT'S THE LAND JUST REASSESS.
DO YOU KNOW KAYLA FROM, I THINK IT'S MOSTLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE PAYING VERY LITTLE ONCE I GET THE AG EXEMPTION, RIGHT? YOU BUY THE EASTMAN OR YOU PUT AN EASEMENT ON IT.
UM, WELL, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S KIND OF VERNACULAR QUESTION CLARIFY IF I COULD STAY WITH BEAVER COUNTY.
UM, SO WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES IS PURCHASE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
WE HAVE MEANING WE PURCHASE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OR WE PURCHASE FEE SIMPLE INTEREST.
THE PROTECTION ON THE PROPERTY WHEN WE PURCHASE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IS THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, THE PROTECTION ON THE PROPERTY WHEN WE PURCHASE FEE SIMPLE INTERESTS ARE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS IF COUNTY COUNCILS SO CHOOSES TO DO SO.
SO THAT'S HOW ORDINANCE IS SET UP.
THAT'S HOW THE PROGRAM IS SET UP.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE TAXES IS THE PROPERTY IS ASSESSED AT WHATEVER ITS CURRENT USE IS.
SO IF THE USE DOESN'T CHANGE, THEN THE TAXES SHOULDN'T CHANGE.
WE DON'T TAX BASED ON A SPECULATIVE NATURE.
I HOPE THAT HELPS NO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UH, VALUED, OR WHEN YOU, DID YOU NEGOTIATE THEM WITH THE OWNER OR HOW DOES THAT, SO THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS VALUE.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
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STEPHANIE IS, UM, IT'S PART OF THE GENESIS OF WHY WE DO THE APPRAISAL, UM, DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PHASE.AND SO, UM, PART OF WHAT WE WILL WANT TO, WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS CONVERSATION, BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT EASE MIDTERMS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROPERTIES WITH Y'ALL, UM, GET A GENERAL FEEL FOR YOUR IMPRESSION OF HOW THAT FITS THE PROPERTY AND HELPS US ACHIEVE OUR GOALS SO THAT WHEN WE GIVE THOSE EASEMENT TERMS TO THE APPRAISER, HE, OR SHE CAN PROPERLY SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST DATES OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS.
SO THE DELTA, WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE EASEMENT, YOUR, UM, THE D THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS CAPTURED IN THAT, UM, VALUATION.
I BE HELPFUL IF SOMEONE EXPLAINED THE BUNDLE OF STICKS VALUE, IF THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO THE METAPHOR ANALOGY THAT'S OFTEN USED WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS IS THAT IT IS LIKE A BUNDLE OF DEBT.
AND ON YOUR PROPERTY TODAY, YOU HAVE THE, UM, BUNDLE OF SIX ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT YOU CAN LEGALLY DO ON YOUR PROPERTY.
SO NOT THINGS THAT ARE SPECULATIVE THAT UNITE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A REASONING FOR, BUT WHAT YOU, YOU ARE CURRENTLY LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO.
AND A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UM, TAKES A LOOK AT, UH, THOSE PROPERTY VALUES.
AND IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE CONSERVATION VALUES OF THIS PROPERTY, SOME OF THOSE RIGHTS, SOME OF THOSE STICKS MAY BE REMOVED.
YOU MAY END UP WITH A SMALLER BUNDLE OF SIX, YOU'RE STILL RETAINING SOME RIGHTS, UM, ON YOUR PROPERTY TO LIVE THERE, TO GROW TREE, TO GROW CROPS, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FOR CAMP AS AN INTERMITTENT, WHATEVER IT IS A BIG THING YEAH.
UM, BUT YOU ARE BEING COMPENSATED.
UM, IF THERE'S A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, IF YOU'RE BEING COMPENSATED FOR THE BUNDLE OF STICKS, THAT YOU'RE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO EVER EXERCISE.
UM, SO THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE START WITH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
AND, UM, I HAVE, UM, I HAVE A HANDOUT.
I AM GONNA WAIT, I'M GONNA HAND UP CAUSE THEIR CHARTS AND THEY'RE KIND OF CONFUSING.
UM, BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT IS GO THROUGH, UM, TYPICAL EASEMENT TERMS AND JUST GET SOME FEEDBACK, HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, AND I THOUGHT IT BEST TO START WITH PROPERTY TERM WITH TERMS OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT ARE OFTEN AFFIRMATIVE THINGS THAT ARE ENCOURAGED.
UM, BUT BACKING UP ONE SECOND, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS TO STRUCTURE HOW THE TERMS IN AN EASEMENT READ TO THE LANDOWNER, UM, ONE WAY IS TO SAY THE LANDOWNER RETAINS, ALL RIGHT, EXCEPT FOR, AND TO LIST THOSE STICKS THAT THAT LAND OWNER IS GIVING UP.
SO EXCEPT FOR THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY, EXCEPT FOR THE RIGHT TO SUBDIVIDE MORE THAN FIVE TIMES, EXCEPT FOR THIS, THIS AND THIS, UM, OR YOU CAN SAY IT IN, UH, IN THE REVERSE, UM, THE LANDOWNER GIVE UP ALL RIGHTS EXCEPT FOR, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A NUANCE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IN THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, BECAUSE IF THE LANDOWNER GIVES UP ALL RIGHTS EXCEPT FOR, BUT IT'S EXPLICITLY WRITTEN IN THE EASEMENT, THAT'S A VERY TIGHT INTERPRETATION.
UM, AND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HELP, UM, I MEAN, I GUESS IT JUST PROVIDES A DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY OVER TIME.
SO FORESTRY THE ABILITY TO DO FORESTRY, THE ABILITY TO DO AGRICULTURE, UM, AND I'VE PUT IN HERE ARCHEOLOGICAL EXCAVATIONS, IT'S A RARE ABILITY OF A PROPERTY, BUT IF WE WERE PROTECTING A PROPERTY OF HISTORIC VALUE AND THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC INTEREST IN THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, WE MIGHT, UM, INCLUDE THIS TYPE OF THING IN AN EASEMENT.
THOSE ARE OFTEN THINGS, THOSE ARE OFTEN RIGHTS, THE LANDOWNER RETAINED.
UM, BUT WITH AN EASEMENT, WE DO MAKE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT TYPE OF WORST GREAT PRACTICES AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FOR FORESTRY AND AGRICULTURE ARE, UM, ENCOURAGED IN, IN EVERY EVENT.
AND I THINK STAFF AND LLC AND ANYONE AFFILIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM WOULD ARGUE THAT THOSE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES SHOULD CONTINUE AS A REQUIRED, UM, ITEM FOR THE LANDOWNER.
ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON CROPS THAT CAN BE ROWING ON A PROPERTY? UM, NOT, NOT IN A, NOT IN A TEMPLATE, BUT LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
IF THERE WERE RESTRICTIONS ON CROP, WHAT WE HAVEN'T COME ACROSS THAT AS A QUESTION
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THAT, THAT, UM, THAT CERTAINLY, UH, UH, POLITICAL POLICY QUESTION TO CONSIDER ABSOLUTELY FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES, IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT SHOULD BE ALLOWED, I JUST USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE.CAN YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER, MAYBE THAT DON'T VIOLATE STATE LAW MIGHT BE THE NEXT AND FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT COULD ENDANGER EXISTING CULTURE? YEP.
UM, AND THE GOAL HERE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT RESTRICTIONS BY SOME FORESTRY AGRICULTURE OR IN THE CASE OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCE, THE ABILITY TO DO SOME SORT OF EXCAVATION, UM, IS TO PROTECT THE CONSERVATION VALUES OF THE PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, GO BACK TO THIS, THE GUIDING FEDERAL AND STATE LAW SAYS, YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AMANDA, I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS FOR Y'ALL.
UM, JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT FORESTRY, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, AND STEPHANIE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP, STEPHANIE CAN SPEAK TO THESE TWO BECAUSE SHE FOLLOWS THESE FOUR MANAGEMENT ON THE FEE, SIMPLE PROPERTIES AS WELL.
UM, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS ACTUALLY A NICE, UM, BNP COMPLIANCE IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS AT 92% PRETTY GOOD.
THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE FOR, FOR THAT FOR THE FORESTRY AND AGRICULTURE IS, UM, IT'S MOST FOLLOW BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO ACTUALLY STATE WHICH BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE PROVIDES, SAY LET'S FOLLOW SFI BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS PER SOCK CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION, OR MUST FOLLOW USDA, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS PER NRCS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD PULL OUT SOME WELL I'M FOLLOWING THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FROM FINLAND.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHICH ONES WE WANT THEM TO FOLLOW.
I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND, UM, AND THAT IS WHY I REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION LAW, BECAUSE, UM, THAT IS, UH, UM, THE SET OF BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
UH, WE CURRENTLY, UM, REQUIRE LANDOWNERS TO FOLLOW.
UM, MAY I ASK A QUESTION PLEASE? UM, WOULD THIS BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FOR FORESTRY AND AGRICULTURE ANSWER SOME OF THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THERE'S ANY CROP THAT CAN'T BE PLANTED OR ANY TREES THAT CAN'T BE PLANTED, WOULD THAT COME UNDER THIS BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES? I DON'T KNOW.
NO, THEY, THEY DON'T, UM, ADDRESS, UM, SPECIES WITH THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE ADDRESS ARE THINGS LIKE, UM, HOW AND WHERE YOU CAN PUT IN DITCHES, UM, HOW CLOSE YOU CAN GET TO A WETLAND OR WATER SOURCE.
UM, WHAT TYPE OF, UM, HERBICIDES PESTICIDES, YOU CAN PUT DOWN TIMING OF THAT.
SO IT GOES INTO MORE OF LIKE THE, UH, LAND MANAGEMENT ASPECT, NOT, UM, THE ACTUAL CROP ITSELF.
DO YOU, UM, MOVE INTO THE NEXT SLIDE? UM, THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF USES OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE COMMONLY FULLY RESTRICTED, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT THE CONSERVATION VALUES, LIKE PROVISION OF OPEN SPACE AND QUALITY INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, UM, CAN BE AN AFFRONT TO THAT.
SO TYPICALLY, UM, ALL INDUSTRIAL USES AND RITES OF PASSAGE, THE MEANS OF ACCESS TO AN INDUSTRIAL USE ARE PROHIBITED AND THE SAME THING WITH COMMERCIAL.
AND ONE OF THE ITEMS WE WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT AN EXAMPLE? AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIND, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
IT'S BETTER TO DO IT WITHOUT THAT.
UM, WHAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED WHERE WE, UM, WANTED TO PROTECT A PROPERTY THAT DID HAVE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, UM, AND HOW WOULD YOU IMAGINE DEALING WITH THAT? AND IN A LOT OF CASES, IT MAY BE LIKE A HOME-BASED OPERATIONS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE OF, UM, OR, UM, HOW TO ADDRESS LEASING OF HUNTING, TRAPPING, AND FISHING.
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ANY THOUGHTS, WHAT'S OUR HISTORY ON THOSE ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO GIVING EAS? WHY AREN'T YOU, UM, SORRY, THEIR HISTORY.I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE ACQUIRED A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAD LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A HOME AUTO, A HOME MECHANIC, OR LIKE A SMALL APPLIANCE.
I WOULD THINK ABOUT LIKE MAYBE LIKE A RURAL, YOU KNOW, APPLIANCE SITUATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, MOST OF THE TIME, THE EXISTING BUSINESS THAT TAKES PLACE ON PROPERTY PROTECTED WITH RURAL CRITICAL DOLLARS IS AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE.
AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF MANY EASEMENTS, AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES ARE NOT CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT SOME EXAMPLES TO LIKE DUNCAN FARM AND LA BECO OR THE HENRY FARM ON ST.
THEY HAVE ACTIVE FARM STANDS, AND THOSE ARE AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE AND ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE EASEMENT.
SO I CAN SEE THOSE EXISTING ON, ON SOME TYPE OF PROPERTY AND YET BE, UH, OBTAIN, UH, YOU JUST HAVE TO PUT CERTAIN LIMITATION ON IT AND THAT'S ALL AUTO MECHANIC SHOP.
YOU GOTTA JUST KEEP THAT A CERTAIN STYLE BECAUSE I CAN BUILD UP TO 50 JUNK CARS BEING ON THE CROWN, AND HE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT, BUT I THINK A HOME-BASED COMPETENT INDUSTRY CAN BE INCORPORATED SOME KIND OF WAY.
UH, GENERATIONAL ALSO ONE GENERATION AND NOT THE NEXT, I MEAN, THE BUSINESSES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD BE AWARE AND WRITE IN SOME TYPE OF A CONTRITE BASHED ON THE IMPACT OF THAT BUSINESS ON THE PROPERTY, AS OPPOSED TO THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT IS, THEY ARE, BUT ALSO ZONING ALREADY PROHIBITS, UM, LOTS OF COMMERCIAL USES IN, IN RURAL AREAS.
IN FACT, MOST COMMERCIAL, UM, HAS TO BE IN, IN A SPECIFIC, UH, COMMERCIALS DONE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT ON THE, ANYWHERE ON LADY'S ISLAND AND OMA, UH, SAY A CAR REPAIR JOB, YOU KNOW? UH, YEAH.
SO YOU DO HAVE SOME GOOD RESTRICTIONS ALREADY WITH, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE ALMOST LIKE A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
IF YOU STILL WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS WITH THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE EASEMENT PROCESS TO SEE, DID IT HAVE ANY INTENTIONS, THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE EXISTING AND ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP RUNNING IT OR IS THAT GOING TO GO AWAY? DO THEY WANT TO EXPAND ON IT? RIGHT.
I MEAN, THAT'S STUFF THAT WE WOULD, I WOULD THINK WHEN I HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
AND THAT'S COMMONLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK TO LANDOWNERS ABOUT HOW THEY USE THEIR LAND BRIDGES, WE JUST WANT TO BRING ALL OF THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL JUST TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS, THIS FEEDBACK.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WHEN THESE EASEMENTS ARE WRITTEN, YOU, YOU MEET WITH THE LANDOWNER OF THE CURRENT DAY, BUT THEY'RE PERPETUAL DOCUMENTS TOO.
SO WORK FROM HOME KIND OF HOME-BASED BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS, UM, THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, BECAUSE IT REALLY WASN'T IMAGINED OFTEN AS MUCH, UM, IN PREVIOUS.
AND ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CHARLESTON COMMUNITY IS DEALING WITH A CRISIS QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY AS LIKE WEDDINGS AND SPECIAL EVENTS ON PROTECTED PROPERTY.
AND YOU MAY HEAR ABOUT THAT TOO.
UM, AND WE CURRENTLY, I DON'T THINK HAVE A HISTORY OF ANYTHING AND OUR EASEMENTS, IF THEY'RE WRITTEN THAT YOU RETAIN EVERY RIGHT, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE, WOULD PRECLUDE IT, UM, OR PREVENT IT.
SO, UM, THAT THAT'S MAYBE A NON-ISSUE FOR BUFORD, BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS THESE THINGS, THE LANDOWNERS AND ELIMINATE SURPRISES DOWN THE ROAD, THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE THAT'S COME UP.
WHAT DO YOU DO IF THERE'S AN EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM WITH A LAND POTENTIALLY LIKE AN UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK OR BIG FARMERS GOT TO SLOP ON, OR, YEAH.
UM, FROM A RURAL AND CRITICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE DO A PHASE, ONE ANALYSIS ON EVERY PROPERTY WE ACQUIRE AND IT WARRANT WE'LL DO THE PHASE TWO.
AND THEN IT BECOMES A DECISION OF THIS BOARD.
IS THAT A PROPERTY YOU WANT TO USE DOLL LIMITED DOLLARS TO PROTECT FROM A STEWARDSHIP PERSPECTIVE? KAYLOR? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE ON A PROPERTY, LIKE A STORAGE TANK OR A SLOT POND, ESPECIALLY IF IT COMES ON AFTER THESE IT'S ALREADY BEEN PLACED AND IT'S A VIOLATION, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HAVE YOU HAD ANY INSTANCES OF PREEXISTING NOT ON RECENT PROJECTS, BUT I'VE SEEN SOME OLDER
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ONES WHERE THEY LIKE GETTING THE DOCUMENTS WHERE THEY WERE REQUIRED AND CLEANED IT UP TO CLEAN IT UP.I THINK THERE'S BEEN ONE THAT THE, UM, BOARD WALKED AWAY FROM BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, YEARS AGO TO HAVE CONTAMINATION.
BUT TYPICALLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING PRE-EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY, WE DON'T WRITE INTO THE EASEMENT THAT THEY CANNOT CONTINUE TO DO WHATEVER, WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS OR A ACTIVITY OR WHATEVER I SIGNED THE LANDOWNERS ARE GOING TO HESITATE TO GIVE UP THE PROPERTY.
IF WE TRY TO WRITE THAT OUT OF THE, EXCEPT THAT AIN'T GIVE HIM A GOOD BIT OF MONEY FOR GIVING IT UP.
I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT I, I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT RATHER THAT CONVERSATION WHERE, WHAT SOMEONE WAS DOING ON THE PROPERTY WITH CONFLICTING, WITH CONSERVATION VALUES, I'M ONLY AWARE OF THE SITUATION WHERE LIKE, THERE IS AN OPERATIONAL FARM FAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN HEARING THAT'S HELPING.
WHAT ABOUT LIKE A RESORT HUNTING WHERE THE PROPERTY WOULD BE USED FOR DAILY HUNTS? UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE TYPICALLY CONTINUED TO ALLOW, OR I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD IN RETENTION OF OWNERSHIP, I CAME RIGHTS, BUT NOT AS A COMMERCIAL, I DON'T MEAN EVER SAYING ANYTHING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT.
LIKE THE PEOPLE STILL HAVE THEIR OWN PROPERTY, THEIR FRIENDS, BUT IF THEY GOING TO DO IT AS THE BUSINESS AND YOU GOT A LODGE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND PAY MONEY TO, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
DO Y'ALL HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT? THE LAST COMMERCIAL USE I WANTED TO OFFER TO THE, TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, UM, PROHIBITING, UM, COMMERCIAL LEASES, BUT STILL ALLOWING LIKE, LIKE FRIENDS AND FAMILY KIND OF THING.
SO BASICALLY FRIENDS AND FAMILY CAN COME AND HAN, OR THE, THE OWNER COULD COME AND HUNT, BUT THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE AN ORGANIZED HUNT CLUB.
UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE MY OFFER TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
HE GAVE OUT A HELPFUL SESSION, THINGS LIKE DOC K, HEY, BEFORE YOU GO HOME.
UM, I I'M, I'M NOT A HUNTER, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF HUNTING GROUPS OUT THERE.
SO, UM, TIFFANY, I DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD TO BE DISCUSSED.
YOU KNOW, I, WOULDN'T JUST LIMITED TO FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT, UH, 3000 ACRES OF LAND OR WHATEVER, IT'S STUFF, THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR A HUD CLUB, EVEN LESS THAN THAT.
UM, THE, UM, IN CENTRAL THE WOODLAND CLUB, YOU KNOW, HAVE ABOUT IT'S FIVE OR 600 ACRES DOWN THERE, AND THEY MAY WANT TO CONSIDER PUTTING A HUNTING, HUNTING LEASE ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO I, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
RECREATIONAL TRAILS, UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF CHARLESTON AND I DIDN'T CHECK THE HOURS.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR CERTAIN HOURS.
SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE SHOWED UP, WE GOT LUCKY.
WE WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME THEY WERE HUNTING.
IT'S KIND OF QUITE UNUSUAL THERE PART OF THE TIME THEY USE IT FOR HUNTING.
AND THEN THE OTHER TIME IT'S MOSTLY USED FOR RECREATIONAL TRAILS.
CERTAINLY THERE'S A MANAGEMENT CHALLENGES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG MANAGEMENT.
I BELIEVE HE HAD ALREADY HAD THIS LAW, UH, MOBILE PROPERTY THAT YOU CANNOT ON PROPERTY, PLEASE.
YOU READ IT FROM A REVENUE SO MAYBE WE JUST GOTTA, YOU GO TO MORE OR LESS LARGE PROPERTIES.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A REAL DIFFERENCE.
SETBACKS ARE OUR CONTEMPLATION, UM, AND, UH, DEVELOP AS IN THINKING ABOUT KIND OF A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD OF A PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THE LAND TRACKS, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT IS DOCKABLE, WE WILL CERTAINLY
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ENCOURAGE CHEDDAR DOCK WHEREVER POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT TO THE REVERSE SALTMARSH AND, AND ALSO THE PUBLIC ENJOYMENT OF THE WATERWAY.UM, AND THE BENDON PROPERTY IN THE GARDENS CORNER AREA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE THERE ARE, UM, WHAT IS IT, TWO COMMUNITY DOCS OR FIVE COMMUNITY DOCS ARE PERMITTED.
UM, BUT IF EVERY RESIDENTS HAD A, UM, WHEN IT WAS SLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE DOC PER PARCEL WITH COMPLETELY, I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE CALL IT TOXIC POLLUTION, RIGHT.
UM, SO ENCOURAGING THINGS LIKE SHARED DOC THAT DOES NOT MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MARINA, UH, LET'S BE CLEAR ON OUR VERNACULAR, BUT SHARE THAT IT'S VERY TIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON DOCK SPACE.
YOU DO FOR COUNTY, FROM BRAYS ISLAND WHERE WE ARE, AND WE HAVE 325 OWNERS AND 5,500 ACRES, BUT WE ARE LIMITED TO 60 FEET OF DOCK BASED ON DNR.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE VERY TIGHT THING.
BEAVER COUNTY HAS SOME OF THE BEST REGULATIONS AND MOST PROTECTIONS IN MY OPINION, FOR SMALL TIDAL CREEKS AS WELL, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ENCOURAGING OUR QUALITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, A FUTURE COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THOSE REGULATIONS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO CODIFY THOSE.
AND SO JUST CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE LIMITING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSE KNIT OF DOCS TO EACH OTHER, UM, ENSURING THAT IF THAT PARTIAL IS SUBDIVIDED, IT'S ONE DOC PER PARCEL, UM, SIMILAR IDEA WITH A SETBACK THAT THE GOAL BEING TO PROTECT CONSERVATION VALUES, UM, IF YOU'RE PROTECTING WATER QUALITY AND SCENIC ENJOYMENT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SCENIC ENJOYMENT OF SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY MAY BE BY THE ROAD OR BY THE WATER.
UM, SO THE SETBACKS ACTUALLY MATTER A LOT TO YOU.
UM, THE LENGTH OF DOC SAYS SO TO THAT POINT, JUST, JUST SO Y'ALL, UM, THERE'S KIND OF SOME LAYERING HERE.
YOU KNOW, THE FIRST, UH, AGENCY YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET A DOCTOR'S CRN AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC LIMITS ALREADY.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT THEY'LL DO IS LIKE WHEN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BUILT, LIKE BRAIDS, THEY'LL DO A DOCK MASTER PLAN AND LIMIT HOW MANY DOCTORS THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HAVE ANYWAY.
BUT THEN BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST REGULAR RESTRICTIONS PARCEL BY PARCEL.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WHEN YOU DO MULTIMODAL CREEKS, YOU HAVE YOU ALL, NOT ONLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH OCRM TO GET A PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO TURN AROUND, COME AND GET ONE FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO IT'S DOUBLE, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE OVER ADDING EVEN POSSIBLE MORE JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 10 DOCS IN A ROW, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T THE ONLY THING YOU GOT TO ONE OR TWO OTHER STEPS BEFORE YOU EVEN GET.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY TIED TO THE OYSTER BUSINESS.
IT'S TIED TO ELIMINATING THE NUMBER OF BOATS THAT COULD BE ON TIDAL CREEK TO DO OYSTER HARVESTING.
THAT'S HOW THEY TIE THAT BACK INTO THE DOCK SPACE.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL RECENTLY, BUT WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE DOCK, BUT IT WAS IT LIGHT.
PRN THERE'S LINKS THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE CREEK.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF HAVE BEEN THERE IN A WHILE, BUT THERE IS A, AN AMOUNT OF LENGTH THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY GO BEYOND.
YOU'VE ALSO GOT TO GET TO ADMIRABLE CREEK.
AND IF THAT LENGTH IS TOO LONG, YOU GET A PERMIT.
THEY ALSO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF DOCK SPACE YOU HAVE ON THE PIER HEAD AND THE FLOATING DOCK AND THE BOAT LIFT.
AND IT'S ALL TIED TO A GENERAL PLAN FOR ALL THE COUNTY.
SO YOU HAVE TO, THEY HAVE A TOTAL LIMIT ON ALL DOCS BASE IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN HAVE X AMOUNT OF THAT, BUT THIS WOULD BE ON THE EXTRA FOR, BUT THAT'S ALL THE CRM.
OR, UH, IS THAT THE ZOO? WHAT'D YOU MEAN ABOUT THE DOCTORS? NO.
I MEAN, THE STATES ALL, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE TO GET THE PERMIT FIRST, AND THEN THE COUNTY SECOND ONLY ON SMALL TOWN CREEK, WHATEVER IS CONSIDERED A SMALL TOWN CREEK, NOT ON THE BIG OPEN CREEK.
THAT'S ONLY FOR THE SMALL TOWN OF GREEKS IN THE COUNTY.
THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY NINETIES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO, UH, TO, UH UH OR FREMONT NOW READ A BLOG.
I MEAN, AFTER I BE THINKING GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE, WATERWAYS BLOCK, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT WAS PROBABLY A DOCK MASTER PLAN DONE BY WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT ALL THAT MAN, YOU MENTIONED NONE OF THAT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST TYPICAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
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THEM.UM, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING BUILDING HEIGHTS AND TOWERS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, SCENIC ENJOYMENT TYPE CONSERVATION VALUES, KEEPING IN LINE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND VERNACULAR IS IMPORTANT 35 FEET, TYPICAL OF MOST OF THE DEVELOPABLE AREA.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY PRECLUDING THINGS LIKE COMMUNICATION TOWERS, BUT ENSURING HEIGHTS OF BUILDINGS AND STUFF AROUND THAT LENGTH WOULD BE THE STARTING POINT FOR CONSIDERATION.
IS THERE ANY INITIAL FEEDBACK ON THAT RIGHT NOW AS IT IS ART? UM, IT DOES SAY OTHER FACTORS MAY APPLY UNDER TOWERS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING EXISTING OR THERE'S A PARTNER, UM, FUNDING ENTITY THAT HAS A PARTICULAR OPINION ON TOWERS.
AND TYPICALLY THAT'S, UM, SOMEONE LIKE MERVIN FOR, SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE CELL PHONE TOWERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S GOT REAL STRICT REQUIREMENTS WITH COUNTY AND THOSE ARE ONLY ALLOWED CERTAIN SPOTS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE DIDN'T WEAR ANYTHING.
SO JUST KIND OF THINKING HERE.
THOUGHT WE MIGHT WANT TO WRITE IT IN, IN CASE THE COUNTY EVER LESSENED THEIR RULES.
UH, KEEPING FILL IN LINE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THINGS LIKE SERVICES, LIKE, SO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WELL, UM, OR SEPTIC SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, IS THE LANGUAGE THAT TYPICALLY GOES WITH AN EASEMENT IS THAT, THAT THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES SHOULD ONLY SERVICE WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN THE EASTMAN.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE A SPRAY FIELD FOR A DEVELOPMENT OFF SITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SIMILAR WITH ROADS, UM, THAT ROADS, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK ALL COLLECTIVELY THE COUNTY AND THE OPEN LAND TRUST WANTS TO ENCOURAGE IMPERVIOUS, UM, OR UNSCARRED, PERVIOUS ROADS AND LIMIT, UM, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, UM, THE LANGUAGE WE'VE TYPICALLY USED IF EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE NECESSARY ONLY BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A SOMETHING OR TWO TO SAY.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT THE EASEMENT ENCOURAGING THINGS LIKE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT STARTING POINT IF, IF IT EVER COMES TO THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, UM, APPROPRIATE JUST AS FAR AS ROADS ARE CONCERNED AND FOR YOUR SHARED AWARENESS, UM, EXISTING ROADS ARE GOING TO BE RECORDED AND SOMETHING LIKE AN EASEMENT BASELINE.
UM, AND SOME OF OUR EASEMENTS IN SOME OF OUR RURAL AND CRITICAL EASEMENTS, EVEN SAY LIKE NO NEW ROUTES BEYOND WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING APPROVAL FOR PAVED SURFACES, I THINK IS WELL WITHIN OUR RIGHTS THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE ON TO FINE.
UM, THIS IS ONE THAT RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS BOARD HAS HAD A KIND OF HEALTHY CONVERSATION AROUND, ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE MOST RECENT PRODUCT.
UM, A RECENT PROJECT LIKE HARRIS PILLOW, UM, THAT HAD AN EXISTING BILLBOARD ON THE PROPERTY THAT, UM, BILLBOARD WAS AN OLD BILLBOARD.
UM, IT COULD NOT BE BUILT THEIR NEW TODAY.
UM, AND GIFFORD HAD SOME STRONG PROTECTIONS AGAINST BILLBOARDS.
I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WELL-PROTECTED RIGHT NOW WITH OUR COUNTY REGULATIONS, BUT SINCE EASEMENTS ARE PERPETUAL DOCUMENTS, WE WANT TO BE WELL PROTECTED FOREVER.
UM, AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THAT PROPERTY TAYLOR WORKED ON UP IN HAMPTON THAT HAD AN EXPIRING BILLBOARD AND THE EASEMENT SPECIFICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BILLBOARD FILLS OUT ITS TERM, BUT IS NOT TO BE A NEW BILLBOARD IS NOT TO BE REBUILT.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS OR FEEDBACK ON THIS LANGUAGE? IT SAYS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS SINUS LARGER THAN EIGHT, EIGHT.
IS THAT A SQUARE FEET OR EIGHT FEET? I, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS? I BET.
AND AGAIN, LOCAL COUNTY WAS KIND OF PARTY DUES ASSETS.
WE HAVE A SIGN SECTION IN OUR R CODE THAT WOULD, THAT IF ANYBODY WERE TO PUT UP A SIGN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US FOR A PERMIT.
SO WE'D, THEY'D HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR CDC.
IT'S LIKE ANY COUNTY REVIEW, ANY COUNTY PERMIT AND, YOU KNOW, PULL A BUILDING PERMIT WAS SEPTIC PERMANENT AT ALL.
UM, BUT I THINK MAINLY THIS IS TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE WHOLE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE PROPERTY FROM THE ROAD, WE DO HAVE A RESTRICT ORDINANCE.
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WHAT OUR SIGNAGE, AT WHICH POINT OR OTHER PLACES MAKE THIS.W ARE WE GOING TO PUT OURSELVES UNDER THE SAME STANDARDS? I DON'T KNOW IF STEPHANIE HAD A SIGN THAT WAS IN POINT MEASURE.
I HAVE, I HAVE PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY, UM, FOR, FOR EVERY SIGN I PUT UP.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DISCUSSION POINT THAT WE WANT TO HOLD OTHERS TO THE SAME STANDARDS WE HOLD OURSELVES IS IMPORTANT.
UM, ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY WELL PROTECTED IS WITH RESPECT TO SIGNIFICANT TREES.
UM, THE GOAL OF COURSE, IS TO PROTECT SIGNIFICANT TREES ON A PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S IN FORESTRY OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LARGE TREES THAT OFFER SOME SORT OF KEYS TO SOME KEYSTONE TYPE PROTECTIONS OR BENEFITS TO THE LANDSCAPE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE KIND OF LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF A TREE IN A RURAL AREA VERSUS THE SIZE OF A TREE ON A SUBURBAN LOT.
UM, AND SO TYPICALLY THE EASEMENT TEMPLATE LANGUAGES IS MORE GENERAL.
WE'RE LUCKY IN BUFORD COUNTY TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC AND PROTECTIVE CDC.
UM, SO, UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN HOLDERS ARE FOLLOWING LOCAL COUNTY LAW ALREADY.
UM, THOSE, THOSE SMALLER TREES NOT LISTED IN THE EASEMENT ARE IN FACT PROTECTED, BUT AT DISCUSSION POINT IS WHETHER WE WANT TO EXPLICITLY LIST THEM AS THE PROTECTIONS EXIST TODAY, OR IF Y'ALL COME THROUGH THE TREE ORDINANCE AND YOU THINK, GOSH, I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD PROTECT, YOU KNOW, RED BAY, I THINK RED BAYS.
ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO PICK AN EXAMPLE THAT'S NOT RELEVANT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD PROTECT X SPECIES AT FOUR INCHES.
THEN LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE PUT THAT IN AN EASEMENT.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CERTAINLY CONSIDER WITH THE LANDOWNER AND ALL THE THINGS, BUT, UM, WANTING TO SHARE THAT AS WELL.
WELL, NEEDLE PINES, LONG LIFETIMES.
I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO TAKE OUT THE MAGNOLIA TREES WITH DBH OF 12 INCHES OR GREATER BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THE TREES ARE PROTECTED, SO THAT'S JUST A DEFINITIVE, LIKE IT SHOULD, THE CON THE CONSERVATION HAS BEEN, SHOULDN'T BE IN CONFLICT WITH OUR CDC IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, YEAH, I THINK CERTAINLY WHEN THE, UM, BASEMENT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RESTRICTING SOMETHING, SO IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE CDC, OR AT LEAST I'M NOT IN CONFLICT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD AROUND THIS SPECIFIC PROVISION HAS BEEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS CLAUSE IN ANY EASEMENT IS A RESOURCE FOR THE LANDOWNER.
LET'S SAY THEY'RE OUT THERE WALKING AROUND THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL, WHAT'S YOUR YOU'RE PROTECTED.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ONE EASY DOCUMENT AND NOT HAVE TO SAY, OH, BY ETHAN SAYS THIS, THE COUNTY CODE SAYS THIS BY ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE COMPREHENSIVE LIST.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO AT FRONT BEST.
THE THREE LISTS LISTS MORE TREES THAN THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I DO WITH, AND SO, YEAH, WE WOULD LIE.
UM, AND SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT ALL TOGETHER AND NOT JUST, I, THESE, THESE THREE ARE GREAT, BUT OUR LIST HAS MORE.
AND SO, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT.
SO ALL THAT FEEDBACK JUST TO ASK THE QUESTION IS, IS REALLY A DBH OF 12 INCHES IN A RURAL SETTING.
SIGNIFICANT TREE DEPENDS ON THE TRAY.
IF IT'S ADULT BLOOD RED, BUD, IT'S A HUGE GRAY, IT'S 12 INCHES.
AND THAT'S WHY LIKE OUR SPECIMEN ORDINANCE SAYS, MAGNOLIA IS READ BY THE DOG WAS RESPECT FOR BBH, NOT 12.
AND THEN AS YOU GET BIGGER, LIKE A LIE, BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIMENS 16, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING MORE WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU KNOW, NOT SO MUCH.
I WOULD THINK THERE ARE OTHER SPECIES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY AS IMPORTANT AS LIVE OAKS IN A MARITIME LIST A LOT MORE.
AND WE CAN ADD TO THAT FOR SURE.
SO WE, AS STAFF WANT TO ADD WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE NOW TO THIS TEMPLATE ON TOP OF THESE THREE, AND EVERYBODY SAID THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO THEIR WAGE.
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TRUE, NO OR ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.UH, MAYBE A NON-DEVELOPMENT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TAKING OUT DAVID STREET, ESPECIALLY THE NATIVE FRUIT TREES, WHICH, UH, ARE FULL OF SCHOOL DATA.
SO I THINK SOME KIND OF WAY OF MOVING FORWARD TO PLAY AN ANIMAL, BE BETTER PROTECTED.
AND PART OF THAT LIST TO PROTECT.
I DON'T THINK PECAN TREES, OR YOU GOT A LOT OF WARD DOWN HERE.
THEY KNOW A LOT OF WILD BLACKBERRIES GROW IN.
WHAT HAD HAPPENED, WHAT I NEEDED REPAIRING WAS POPULAR.
IT WAS JUST BRAVE BLACKBERRY BAR.
THAT'S THE ANAGRAM USED TO BE PLUMS EVERYWHERE.
KATE, THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A GOOD SEGUE INTO, UM, I NOTICED THAT THE LANDSCAPING LINE ITEM IS PRESENTATION AND WE HAD SOME, UH, THANK YOU.
CAUSE IT'S GOING TO BUILD ON, UM, THE CHAIRMAN'S COMMENT THERE, UH, WHERE IN THE LANDSCAPING ITEM WE HAD SUGGESTED MAKING A CHANGE THAT INSTEAD OF NATURAL NATIVE VEGETATION BEING ENCOURAGED, THAT IT IS REQUIRED AND THAT NON-NATIVE ORNAMENTAL VEGETATION WOULD BE PERMITTED SO LONG AS IT'S NOT INVASIVE AND THAT IT'S APPROVED BY VEHICLE.
SO MAYBE THAT CHANGE IN THE LANDSCAPING SECTION COULD GET TO THE POINT OF THE RETENTION OF THOSE NATIVE PLANT SPECIES, THOSE FOOD AND MASS SPECIES FOR WILDLIFE.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, STEPHANIE, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPING, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING THOUGH, I WANT TO BE SURE, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AROUND A BUILT HOME IS DIFFERENT THAN JUST NATIVE TREES IN THE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH MAY BE WHAT CHAIRMAN MATT WAS TALKING TO TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A HUNDRED AND THERE'S A 300 FOOT THAT BACK, THE ABILITY TO ENCOURAGE THE WILD BLACKBERRY BUSHES STAY WITHIN THAT VEGETATED SETBACK IS DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, CHOOSING LANDSCAPING PLANTS.
AND JUST, AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A SEMANTIC CONVERSATION, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT BOTH EXISTS.
TWO SEPARATE LOT LINES IN THE, IN THE TERMS. YEP.
UM, LET'S MOVE IN TO, NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF LIKE WARMED UP.
I KNOW, ALTHOUGH I DO WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO EVERYBODY'S TIME, UM, WANT TO MOVE INTO SOME OTHER MORE IMPACTFUL TERMS. UM, AND IT RELATES TO HON IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SUBDIVISION IN RESIDENCES, AND THEN WE ARE DONE, UM, PONDS AND RELATED TERMS, UM, LIKE EMPOWERMENT SCREEN-FREE RESERVOIR AND THEN THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF PONDS, WHICH IS LIKE HOW YOU DEAL WITH THE DIRT IF YOU DUG UPON, UM, IS ON THIS SLIDE.
AND, UM, WE JUST WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, CDC REQUIREMENTS, UM, ARE FOLLOWED, THE CDC HAS SOME REQUIREMENT OR PONDS SIZE.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT TYPICALLY DEAL WITH THINGS LIKE NEIGHBORHOODS ON UNDER STORMWATER PONDS, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, COULD COME INTO PLAY ON SOME PROTECTED PROPERTY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST REITERATE THAT THE DIRT AND MATERIAL THAT'S EXCAVATED CANNOT BE SOLD COMMERCIALLY, UM, BECAUSE SURFACE MINING AND MINING AND ANY KIND IS PROHIBITED, UM, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THE TREASURY.
SO THAT'S A PRETTY BRIGHT LINE FOR LANDOWNERS, UM, WHICH IS GOOD.
AND THEN SITUATION WITH MINERAL RIGHTS, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE EASEMENT? WAS THERE A MENTAL, ONE OF THEM MINERAL RIGHTS IS THAT PROHIBITS THE OWNER OF THE MINERAL RIGHTS TO TAKE THEM OUT.
UM, IN PLACES LIKE TEXAS AND COLORADO, WHERE IT IS MORE COMMON FOR LIKE ONE OWNER TO, AND THE LAND AND ONE ON HER OWN BENEATH THE LAND, THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS FOR LIKE BORING AND ACCESSING MINERALS, BUT IN SOUTH CAROLINA, IT'S TYPICAL FOR THE LANDOWNERS TO BE THE SAME.
AND SO MINING IS MINING AND WE HAD A CASE WHERE IT WAS EXXON OR WHOEVER
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INDEPENDENT OF THAT MINING IS MINING AND IT'D BE PROHIBITED.SO EVEN THE EXISTENCE OF A MENTAL RIPE WITH PROHIBIT THE EXERCISE OF THAT, RIGHT UNDER THE EASEMENT, WELL, THE EASEMENT RELATES TO THE LAND IN OUR SEPTEMBER DIFFERENTLY.
AND DONORS EITHER HAVE TO GO IN OR OUT WEEKEND GETTING THE QUICK LANDY FROM EXXON OR YEAH, I MEAN, OR, OR RESTRICTS WHAT YOU HAVE WITH THE LANDOWNER ITSELF.
THAT'S GOOD TO HAVE A QUESTION LIST HERE.
IT SAYS DIRT EXCAVATED CAN'T BE SO COMMERCIALLY.
AND THEN BELOW THAT IT SAYS THAT IT CAN'T BE KEPT ON THE SITE.
SO THAT SPEAKS TO THE CLAIM THAT TYPICALLY ABOUT ADVERSE MATERIAL, ALTERATION OF TOPOGRAPHY OR HYDROLOGY, YOU KNOW, A BIG DIRT MOUND ON THE SITE IS NOT, UM, ENCOURAGED.
I MEAN, KAYLA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE BEST FROM SOME OF YOUR EXPERIENCE STEWARDING PROPERTIES, UM, IMPROVING AN UNDER A BF ROAD OR, YOU KNOW, GRIPPING THE FOUNDATION AROUND THE HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, THEY DON'T WANT US TO CHANGE THE TYPOGRAPHY TO A BIG EXTENT THAT THEY CAN USE THIS TO IMPROVE A ROAD OR DO SOMETHING ELSE, OR THEY CAN FALL IT ALL BY, BUT NOT FILL IT BECAUSE IF YOU SELL IT THAT'S MONEY.
ARGUMENT EVEN AS REQUIRED, THE IRS REQUIRES FOR DAY ON THE PROPERTY, STAYS ON THE PROPERTY.
WELL THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN A BIG MOUND OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE A LARGE BERM.
AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU REWRITE THAT FIRST RED, THE RED IS FOR DISCUSSION AND THOUGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S ALL FOR DISCUSSION.
THIS IS NOT HOW THE WORDS APPEAR IN THE EASEMENT OR JUST TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD BE FINE IF THEY WANTED BOTH OF IT OR THEY'RE BEING MORE CLEAR ABOUT, AND THERE, THERE ARE TREASURY ABOUT THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT ABOUT RICE PONDS AND THE, UM, IT, IF THEY ARE REHAB ROTATED OR WHATEVER, WOULD THAT BE PREVENTED UNDER THIS? I MEAN, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO START UP A RICE FARM AND THAT MEANT REBUILDING RICE DYKES AND LOCKS WOULD THAT THEY ALLOW IT.
I THINK THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHY THE PONDS AND IMPOUNDMENT AND GRAIN-FREE RESERVOIRS PROVISION VARY DEPENDING ON THE PROPERTIES OF PORNOGRAPHY.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAINLY CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON PROPERTIES WITH ACTIVE RICE FIELDS AND DIKES AND WATER MANAGEMENT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
I'M HAPPY YOUR DOG JOINING US, AMANDA AND COUNSELING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, THAT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF, OF WHY LOOKING AT A PROPERTY AND I MEAN, WHY, WHY TEMPLATES ARE HEART? WHY, WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THAT ABSTRACT, BECAUSE IT'D BE REALLY EASY TO THINK ABOUT A SPECIFIC PROPERTY AND SAY, WELL, WHAT WOULD, HOW WOULD YOU WRITE AN EASEMENT ON HERE? BUT THAT EVEN A, IS IT GOING TO SET ON PROPERTY B SO, YEAH.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, UM, AGAIN, PROTECTING THE CONSERVATION VALUES ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE NOT EXCEED HALF A PERCENT OF TOTAL PER PARCEL SIZE, UM, AND YOUR COMPARISON TAKE HOME CHART.
I'VE HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOU HOW THAT EXISTS IN A LOT OF RURAL, INCREDIBLE EASEMENTS TO DATE, AND JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ETHOS BEHIND WHY.
UM, SO IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, OUR FUTURE CHALLENGES WITH PROTECTING PROPERTY IS TO ALLOW FOR MARSH MIGRATION OVER TIME.
SO IT'S EASIER FOR OUR CURRENT MARSHES TO MIGRATE OR TO MOVE INTO OUR UPLAND MARITIME FOREST WHEN THERE IS NOT A HARD STRUCTURE THERE.
SO ANOTHER REASON WHY STEP BACK FROM THE RIVER ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU KNOW, THE MARSHALL TO NOT MIGRATE IN DOWNTOWN CHARLESTON, THERE'S A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, RIGHT? THE RUNOFF FROM THAT AREA IS VERY DIFFERENT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT IS PLACES LIKE THE PORT ROYAL SOUND AND THERE SHOULD BE AREAS THAT COME UP IF YOU CLICK ONE MORE, UM, IN PLACES LIKE HABERSHAM, WHERE THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S A DEAD END FOR THE MARCH BECAUSE THE MARSH ISN'T HOPEFULLY GOING TO NAVIGATE ITS WAY THROUGH EVERYONE'S HOUSE.
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UM, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, WHERE THERE IS OPEN PROPERTY AND THERE IS NOT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, THE MARSH CAN MOVE OVER TIME.SO JUST, JUST ONE EXAMPLE ABOUT WHY IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, UM, CERTAINLY HAS RESONANCE TO WE DO AND TO OUR CONVERSATION.
ANOTHER WAY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, ESPECIALLY IN WITH RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM PROJECTS IS IN THE FOCUSING RIVER.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WATERSHEDS AND THE OTC, THE FOCUS ON THE OTC WATERSHED, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER, IT IS, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN BY BUFORD AREA SCIENTISTS AND NATIONALLY INTERNATIONALLY RECEIVED THAT WATER QUALITY DECLINES IN THE MORE THAN 10% OF THE WATERSHED IS COVERED BY PAVEMENT, WHETHER THAT BE RED ROOFTOPS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, AND SO THE THRESHOLD FOR PLACES LIKE THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED OR THE OKAPI RIVER WATERSHED, UM, HAS EXCEEDED, OR AS CLOSE TO THAT 10% CAPACITY.
SO WE CARE A LOT ABOUT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND THAT'S IN THE AGGREGATE WATERSHED LEVEL.
AND ON THE PARCEL SIDE, THAT RECOMMENDATION HALF A PERCENT QUESTION.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TEXT SLIDE FOR IMPERVIOUS CIRCLES? I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, UM, WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, BUT I'M WONDERING, HOW DO YOU DEFINE PAVED PATIOS? ARE YOU CONSIDERING THAT PAVERS OR LIKE CONCRETE PATIO OR LIKE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE PAVERS ARE CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS TO OUR STORM WATER FOLKS? WE SAT THINK STEPHANIE JUST SAID THEY DON'T CONSIDER THEM IMPERVIOUS.
SO THAT MAY BE A STEWARDSHIP DISCRETION WHERE WE WOULD VIEW WHAT PERVIOUS IS DIFFERENT FROM STORMWATER.
AND WE SHOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED OR WHAT THEY CONSIDER PERVASIVE NOW.
THEY JUST UPDATED THE SAME OR HIGHER STANDARD.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT THERE FOR IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
UM, JUST LET'S REVIEW THE STORMWATER STUFF AND JUST MAKE SURE, UM, WE'RE NOT IN USING CONFLICTING LANGUAGE.
SUBDIVISIONS, IF WE SKIP AHEAD FROM THE PICTURES, UM, SUBDIVISIONS, OBVIOUSLY REFERRING TO THE ABILITY TO DIVIDE A PARCEL, UM, AND THIS AGAIN VARIES BY THE PROPERTY AND TYPICALLY KIND OF THE FAMILY MAKEUP QUITE HONESTLY, I MEAN, TWO CHILDREN, TWO SUBDIVISIONS, OFTENTIMES LANDOWNERS DON'T PICK THEIR FAVORITE CHILD AND MOVE ON, BUT I GUESS THAT COULD HAPPEN TOO.
UM, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A COMPARISON CHART WHERE, AND YOU'LL SEE KIND OF WIDE RANGING SUBDIVISIONS, UM, THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
SO WHEN WE RECONVENE FOR, YOU KNOW, REVIEW AND DISCUSSION AND ALL THIS, UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME REAL LIFE EXAMPLES.
UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I DO HAVE SOME PICTURES TO SHARE.
AND I DID MOVE THESE AROUND TOO.
LET'S JUST HAVE THE, HAVE THE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF THERE'S, THERE'S NO RIGHT ANSWER, THERE'S NO ANSWER YET.
BUT HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF YOU HAVE 115 ACRES AND, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL ROADS AND ZONING WOULD ALLOW ONE UNIT FOR THREE ACRES, WHAT AMOUNT OF SUBDIVISION FIELDS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SHOUT OUT THEIR FIRST GUT INSTINCT, GO FOR IT.
IF NOT, THIS IS THE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, SLIDING SCALE KIND OF SUBDIVISION CASE-BY-CASE DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BECOME COMFORTABLE WITH.
I GUESS I COULD BE WRONG, A LITTLE BIT NAME THE COUNTY COMP PLAN AND A RULE OR REGULATION CALLED FEMININE COUNTDOWN.
AND, UM, , UH, WASN'T THAT ALREADY BE IN PLACE? WELL, WELL, OUR PURPOSE UNDER THE COMP PLAN, THERE ARE COMP PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT SMALL LOT SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT YEAH, THIS IS THINKING ABOUT IF THE PROPERTY WAS PROTECTED UNDER EASEMENT, HOW MANY TIMES WOULD THAT LANDOWNER BE ABLE TO DIVIDE IT? AND IT MAY RELATE TO HOW MANY FAMILY MEMBERS THEY WANT TO ACCOMMODATE ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, UH, YOU HAVE TO ADOPT THAT FAMILY COMPOUND, UH, REGULATION, IF, IF, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY ONE
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FOOT DOWN , UH, THAT, THAT FAMILY COMPOUND, UM, THEY COULD IT'S THE FAMILY COMPOUND RAG ALREADY EXISTED AND WAS AFFORDED TO THEIR PROPERTY WHEN THEY DO THE APPRAISAL IS ALSO BETWEEN THE VALUE OF THE RIGHTS THEY'RE GIVING UP AND THE VALUES, EVERYTHING MAYBE SMALLER.UM, BUT THE THING IS THEY CAN DO, IT'S ALREADY ZONED.
WE'RE NOT REALLY WHAT IT WOULD PROTECT.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO PROTECT MORE THAN THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PUT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY TO PROTECT MORE.
AND SO WE WANT THEM TO DO LESS THAN THAT.
AND SO IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT ALREADY, THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WOULDN'T BE PROTECTED.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS EASEMENT COMPARISON OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, UM, WHERE FAMILIES HAVE DONE THAT AND BEEN VERY RESTRICTIVE ABOUT A CERTAIN PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY AND THEN ALLOWED MORE SUBDIVISIONS ON ANOTHER.
SO IF YOU SKIP AHEAD, ONE SLIDE TO THE NEXT IT'S, UM, THIS IS THE HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN FOR VENDEN AND THAT DICTATED THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME FREE WORK, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, IDENTIFYING CONSERVATION VALUES, AND HOW DOES THAT SITE KIND OF HELPS EXPLAIN MAYBE WHERE SUBDIVISION SHOULD OCCUR? AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT'S AN OLDER IMAGE.
OH, DIDN'T BEND IN DIDN'T BEND IN 20 BENDING ALLOWS 20 SPECIFIC AREAS.
SO NORTH BEND, IT HAS A CERTAIN NUMBER AND ON 1300 ACRES.
UM, THIS, IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE GREEN, I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT.
UM, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GREEN LINES ON THIS IMAGE AND THIS WAS THE BEST QUALITY THAT I COULD GET, BUT THIS IS MCLEOD PROPERTIES PROTECTED WITH A RURAL AND CRITICAL EASEMENT.
AND ITS SUBDIVISIONS ARE DICTATED BOTH BY, YOU KNOW, WHERE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MIGHT MAKE THE MOST SENSE AND THE ETUDES.
SO, UM, IS THE AIR INSTALLATION, UM, COMPATIBLE USE ZONES.
SO THE, THE LINES, UM, WERE ESSENTIALLY MILITARY IMPACT.
UM, THEY GET NOISE OR, UM, POTENTIAL CRASH ZONES, THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, AND COUNCILMAN HOWARD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON THIS SLIDE IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW SUBDIVISIONS CAN BE DISCUSSED KIND OF GENERALLY AND VERY SPECIFICALLY, UM, AND, AND THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR THAT EASEMENT ALLOWS FOR, UM, 15% OF A 20 ACRE AREA TO BE COVERED WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE BECAUSE OF THE GOAL OF CLUSTERING RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON THE WATER, AWAY FROM THE ACES AND PROTECTING MAJORITY OF THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING, WALTER WITH RETAINING SOME PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FOR MORE OF A FAMILY COMPOUND CLUSTERED DEVELOPMENT AND PROTECTING THE REST, THEN, THEN DOES THE SAME THING, CLUSTERING THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE WATER, UM, AND THEN PROTECTING THE ROCK.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS, WHERE A HOME OR NO HOMES, OR EVENTUALLY REMEMBER WHAT SOME OF THIS, UM, TO, UH, FOR A PASSIVE PARK.
SO SOME OF IT, THEY ACTUALLY, WE COME DOWN HERE AND THE, I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW, BUT IT WAS LIKE 90 ACRES AROUND BEFORE ROAD.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS.
UM, IT'S NET NEXT TO THE SCHOOLS AND IT'S THE PASSIVE PARK AND, UM, OWNED AND T SIMPLE.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS AN EASEMENT.
AND IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, UH, STUB TRACT OF ABOUT 125 ACRES 20 OF WHICH IS DESIGNATED OR THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
AND THEN I BELIEVE IT'S 16 SELF-SUFFICIENT I WOULD THINK THAT IDEALLY WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING OUR PROPERTY FOR AN EASEMENT, THAT FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, NO SUBDIVISIONS WOULD BE THE BEST, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THEN MAYBE WORK FROM THERE.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, UH, IF THE, IF THE OWNER WANTS 10 AND YOU GET IT TO THREE OR FIVE, IT'S, UH, IT'S BETTER.
I MEAN, BUT, BUT NO SUBDIVISIONS WOULD BE THE BEST.
I MEAN, DOESN'T THAT, WOULDN'T THAT BE WHAT YOU WOULD SAY? I MEAN, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON, YEAH, BUT IF IT'S
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ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF YOUR OBSERVATION OF THE CONSERVATION AND FOR THE GENERAL, FOR THE PUBLIC AND IN GENERAL, WITHOUT ANY GUIDELINES OF HOW DO YOU KEEP IT FROM LOOKING ARBITRARY, UM, TO THE PUBLIC SIDE LAND ON ARRAY.FIVE SUBDIVISIONS AND LAND OWNER.
AND ALSO, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SHARE THESE TWO EXAMPLES WHERE IT'S BEEN VERY LAND-BASED.
YOU ALSO GET INTO THE PRICE OF THE, OF THE, IF YOU HAVE NO SUBDIVISION, THE GUY THAT OWNS THE LAND AND SAY, HEY, I CAN NEVER SUBDIVIDE THIS.
THEN I'M GOING TO WANT MORE MONEY FOR THE EASEMENT.
THEN IF I COULD SUBDIVIDE, LIKE BENDON 20 UNITS, 1300 ACRES.
IT'S A NEGOTIATION TO SOME EXTENT WITH THE LAND OWNERS, TO WHAT HE'S, WHAT HE WILL TAKE AND WHAT HE WILL GIVE.
AND THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGOTIATION ON THIS AND HOW I CAME OUT AND I MEAN, EVERY, EACH ONE'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AND FAMILIES, FAMILIES HAVE TO AGREE AND YEAH, IT GETS COMPLICATED.
LIKE WHAT WAS THE ONE WE DID LONGWOOD NOT LONG AGO.
AND THEY HAVE LIKE NON-FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEY WANT TO THE NON, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT IT WAS LIKE NINE BEING THE MIDDLE OF THE NAILS, NINE ONE OF THE HOUSE, SOMEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS LIKE THE NEGOTIATION THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
SO, UM, UH, JAKE RELATED TO THEM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, IS RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
UM, SO MAYBE THE NEXT ONE, THAT WAS THE MACLAB.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT IT TYPICALLY ALIGNED WITH THE NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS.
UM, BUT IN SOME CASES, IF YOU'RE CLUSTERING OR DOING SOMETHING, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UM, MAYBE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, BUT ALL THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES LOCATED IN ONE PLACE, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, DESIGNATING, UM, KIND OF BUILDING AREAS AND CLUSTERING IS ALWAYS ENCOURAGED.
AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S ALSO ENCOURAGED MINT TO, YOU KNOW, UM, THINK ABOUT THE STRUCTURES AND HOW THEY INTERPLAY WITH EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF SIZE.
UM, SO, UM, THE FINAL THING WE WE'VE ONE OF THE, AGAIN, REASONS WHY WE REALLY, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
JUST TO GO BACK TO THAT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
UM, I JUST WANTED THE BOARD TO BE, TO KNOW THAT, UM, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF WERE VERY MUCH, UM, WANTING TO HAVE A CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD LIMIT THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE PER PARCEL PARCEL SLASH SUBDIVISION.
THAT SLIDE DIDN'T COME UP EARLIER.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE AWARE THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING STAFF WOULD LIKE THEM TO CONSIDER.
WE COULDN'T FIND THE SLIDE EARLIER.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE A NUMBER IN MIND, STEPHANIE, A FUNCTION OF THE, I THINK WE DID DISCUSS SOME NUMBERS AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK BACK AT MY NOTES.
I THINK WE DID, BUT I TH I BELIEVE THE, THE CDC GIVES SOME NUMBERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING, I THINK IF Y'ALL WERE AMENABLE TO PUTTING A SQUARE FOOTAGE, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE LIMIT, AND THEN, UM, WE COULD LOOK AT THE CDC TO SEE WHAT, WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE PERMITTED.
UH, STEPHANIE, IN OUR EARLIER CONVERSATIONS, I THINK WE WERE REFERENCING THE CDC AND STATING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S THAT WE SAY RESIDENTIAL HOMES DON'T EXCEED 4,000 SQUARE FEET OR 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE DETERMINED FROM THIS CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE WAS A SUPPORT TO LIMIT CERTAIN STRUCTURES OR NOT.
AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO RELY BACK ON THE CDC TO GET A BETTER GUIDELINE ON WHAT THOSE LIMITATIONS SHOULD BE.
THEY'RE AN IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK TO THAT TODAY OR WITH ALL LIKE THE, I THINK IT DEFINITELY SHOULD DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY KEEPING A HUNDRED ACRES AS ONE PARCEL, UH, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES MUCH DIFFERENCE WHETHER THEY BUILD $3,500, 7,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON IT.
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MEETS THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.AND I AGREE, I AGREE WITH THAT.
AND I, HAVEN'T JUST A QUESTION BACK ON BEFORE WE GO TO PROCESS ON THE COMMERCIALIZATION AND THE AGRICULTURE ISSUE, HOW DO WE TRADING OR HAVE WHICH WE DID SOLAR FARM, HOW IS SOLAR BEING TREATED? UM, WE HAVE AN EASEMENT ON A SOLAR FARM IN BEAVER COUNTY.
IT WAS NOT IN RURAL AND CRITICAL EASEMENT.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF KRISTEN OR KAYLOR WANT TO SPEAK TO THEIR STEWARDSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT GENERALLY SOLAR PANELS ARE NOT CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS.
THEY ROTATE, UM, THEY ARE NOT PERMANENT.
UM, AND SO IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT ALMOST, IF A SOLAR PANEL OR SOLAR FARM WOULD BE ALLOWED, YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTING AGAIN, LIKELY THAT WASN'T A VISION WHEN AN EASEMENT WAS WRITTEN BECAUSE IT'S BECOMES A NEWER THING.
AND SO FOR ALL THESE MEN'S, IF WE WERE POSED TO THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU PUT A SOLAR FARM ON THIS PROPERTY? YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROVISIONS ABOUT COMMERCIAL USES AND WHETHER THAT'S ALLOWED PROBABLY IT'S NOT OR SERVICES AND WHETHER THAT'S ALLOWED PROBABLY IT'S NOT THE WAY THE CURRENT QUESTIONS ARE FOR NEW EASEMENT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE AN OPEN QUESTION.
AND I DON'T KNOW, KAYLA, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR, UM, WORK WITH THE SOLAR FARM HERE.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S REALLY SOME DAYS THE OLDER EASEMENTS AREN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY SPEAK TO IT, BUT DAY ONE DEFINITELY SHOULD.
BUT IN MY EXPERIENCES WITH SOMEONE SOLAR OR WITH THE SOLAR FARM, WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ON THE VEGETATION IS IMPACTED AT ALL UNDERNEATH THE SOLAR PANELS.
AND IN FACT, IT SEEMS ON THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THE DETERRENT IS SO LITTLE FROM HIM.
AND HE'S LIKE, WILDLIFE IS REALLY TAKING RESCUE GENOCIDE, THIS OLDER AREA, WHENEVER I WAS IN THERE LAST YEAR.
AND I'M PLANNING TO GO SOON, THERE WAS DUCKS EVERYWHERE, JUST HANGING OUT IN THERE BECAUSE ONE PERSON GOES IN THERE ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
AND SO THEY'RE, SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE PROHIBITED UNDER OUR CURRENT GUIDELINES FOR, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT SOLAR WOULD APPEAL.
OTHERWISE IT WOULD INTERSECT WITH THE COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE TERM.
I MEAN, THIS ARE EVEN ON THIS SOLAR FARM WITH THEIR SPECIFIC PROPERTY.
IT WAS AN OLD TOMATOES ON THE PANELS.
AREN'T, AREN'T USING CONCRETE TO CEMENT THEM IT, IF THEY WERE THEN MAYBE THAT WOULD HAVE COUNTED TOWARDS THE PREVIOUS SERVICE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE BURIED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT I WILL SAY VERY INTERESTING.
WE REALLY ARE THE FIRST TO DO THIS.
NOT ONLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WE HAVE PHONE CALLS AND CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME FROM PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LOOKING AT US AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, TO DO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND ACCOMMODATE FOR THEM.
AND WE'RE LEARNING WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, BUT BEAVER COUNTY SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PARTNERING WITH THE OPEN LAND TRUST.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS IN SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT WHERE I'M FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK, THE SOLAR COMPANIES WERE VERY ACTIVE IN TRYING TO GET FARMERS TO ALLOW THEM TO LEASE LAND FOR SOLAR PURPOSES, WITHOUT CONFLICTING WITH THEIR USE.
SO I SUSPECT IT'S GOING TO BE A BIGGER ISSUE DOWN HERE.
IT HAS PART OF THE REASON WHY THE LAND TRUST CONSIDERED THAT.
AND Y'ALL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
BUT PART OF THE REASON WAS BECAUSE IF, IF THEY EVER ABANDONED THE SOUL OF THE FARM THAT, YOU KNOW, SAY THEY KEEP IT THERE 30 YEARS, THEN IT SANTA IT'S RIGHT ON THE HIGHWAY, IT'S A PRIME DEVELOPMENT AREA, BUT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT MAKES THAT LAND GO BACK INTO AGRICULTURE.
DOESN'T ALLOW IT TO BE DEVELOPED.
AND THAT PROJECT PROBABLY IF IT WASN'T DOMINION LIKE A BIG COMPANY THAT DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE TAX DEDUCTION AND THEY ALSO DIDN'T STAY PUBLIC, BUT THE COUNTY WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE TIME.
IT WASN'T REALLY A CRITICAL PROJECT, BUT IT WASN'T FUNDED.
OR IS THIS THE ONE THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION.
AND ADD MORE FUNKY YOU, PLEASE TAKE A NOTE.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THESE HANDOUTS TO GO HOME WITH LIKE JOT THEM DOWN.
LET'S REVISIT, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE THE GOAL, IF YOU GO
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TO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES IS TO BE MORE ENGAGED UPFRONT.UM, AND WHEN WE DO OUR QUARTERLY APPLICATIONS, WE ALWAYS HAVE A STAFF REVIEW INITIALLY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO TALK ABOUT ETHAN IDEA AND TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE CONSERVATION VALUES OF THE PROPERTY ARE THAT WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING PROTECTING AND HOW WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WHEN THE BOARD SEES THE PROJECTS, IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PROPERTY LIKE, AND SHOULD WE ORDER AN APPRAISAL, UH, SURVEY, ET CETERA.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY AND, AND SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL RELY ON US FOR, AND SOME OF THAT IS JUST, WE ALL BENEFIT FROM EACH OTHER'S KNOWLEDGE.
KATE, I HAD A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
SO UNDER THE 1, 2, 3 FOURTH BULLETS FINALIZED, ONCE IT GOES TO THE BOARD, I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE UNDER THE NRC BULLET BECAUSE COUNTY COUNCIL NEEDS TO AGREE TO THOSE TERMS BEFORE THEY'RE CONSIDERED FINAL.
I WOULD THINK, UM, YES, THAT IS, UM, ACTUALLY THOSE BULLETS ARE JUST WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN WHEN THE PROJECT IS PRESENTED TO THE RURAL AND CRITICAL BOARD FOR DUE DILIGENCE AND BETWEEN WHEN IT'S PRESENTED TO THE NRC.
UM, SO ACTUALLY THE MISTAKE STEPHANIE, IS THAT, UM, IT, IT IS THAT IF THE NRC HAS AN IMPROVED DUE DILIGENCE, THEN THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
SO THAT ORDER IS, BUT YOUR POINT IS MADE, UM, THAT EASEMENT TERM, UH, FINALIZE IS INTENDED TO HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE.
WE CAN GET A FAIR APPRAISAL IF THE EASEMENT TERMS AREN'T KNOWN, BUT THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY THE AFTER THE PROJECT IS PRESENTED TO THE AND CRITICAL BOARD AND NRC.
SO KIND OF PART AND PARCEL TO THE DUE DILIGENCE.
SO IT'S A CONSIDERATION OF EASE MIDTERM, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINALIZE THEM DURING THAT STAGE PRIOR TO COMMISSIONING AND APPRAISAL, SO THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU ON THE BOARD AND ON AND ON NRC, YOU KNOW, YOUR APPRAISED VALUE ACCURATELY REFLECT THE RIGHTS FOR THE LANDOWNER HAS UNRESTRICTED AND THE RIGHT, THE LANDOWNER IS GIVING UP WITH THE RESTRICTION.
AND THEN THE FINAL SLIDE IS JUST AN IMAGE OF THE GREENPRINT THAT I USE A LOT IN OUTREACH PRESENTATIONS TOO, TO REMIND FOLKS THAT WE HAVE A GUIDING SCIENTIFIC BASIS.
UM, AS MUCH AS THIS IS AN ART AND A SCIENCE, UM, WE HAVE REALLY GREAT QUANTITATIVE DATA, UH, THAT WE CAN USE.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST THE FINAL SLUG FOR THE GREENPRINT.
AND, UM, THAT IS THE EXTENT OF OUR EASEMENTS WORKSHOP TODAY.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
UM, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS PASS OUT A HARD COPY OF THE TERMS WITH SOME OF THE RED, UM, QUESTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION INCLUDED, AS WELL AS A COMPARISON CHART OF RECENT EASEMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU CAN SEE KIND OF HOW THESE TERMS HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PRACTICE.
AND, UM, THAT'S YOUR CHRISTMAS BESSER HOLIDAY HOMEWORK, UM, TABLE.
I SENT YOU A PDF WITH THEM FOR THE MINUTES AND I WILL SEND THEM OUT TO OUR FRIENDS ON HELLO.
HOW ARE Y'ALL FOR YOU ALL EXIT OUT? I WOULD LIKE FOR, UH, THE COUNTY STAFF, LEGAL AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD TO STAY ON, PLEASE, SO WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, UH, CLOSING ISSUE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR LOVE AND WHAT YOU DO HERE IN TERRIBLE LAND AND JUST HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.
AND, UM, UH, YOU'VE DONE GOOD.
LOOK, SHE, I BELIEVE, AND ESPECIALLY THE STAFF WEBS, WE LIVE AND WORK HERE.
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DO FOLKS.UH, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH EACH OTHER.
I GUESS THE RETREAT IS COMING UP, BUT DEFINITELY, YEAH, WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL FULL TEAM AND I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF DOWN, PLEASE, I'M WORKING WITH THE CAULIFLOWER CO-OPERATIVE AND I WAS, I'M PLEASED THAT WE HAD OUR GRAND OPENING YESTERDAY, AND WE WERE REALLY SHOCKED ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
HE HAD HIS ATTENDANCE, BUT BLOOD DOESN'T ENTIRE PROJECT.
HE HAD THE POPE FROM FEDERAL LEVEL, STATE LEVEL, UH, PROPAGATION OF THAT AREA.
SO EVERYBODY WAS REALLY AT WAR THIS PROJECT BEHALF.
AND IT ALL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FARM LAND PRESERVED.
NOW WE BE ALL POSITIVE BECAUSE NO, WE GIVE IT TO THE FARM AND SOMEPLACE DUMPING PACKAGE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR GRANT.
AND WHAT I HEARD, THE LAST THING IS THAT N AND HOPING OFF OFFICE HERE ONE DAY, IT WAS EVERY TUESDAY.
THE YOUNG LADY, HIS NAME IS KAY RENTER, BUT THE NRCS STANFORD ACTUALLY NATIONAL COPPER SERVICES.
SO WHERE'S THIS PAVILION OR WHATEVER, WHERE YOU'RE SELLING YOUR CO-OP FARM WAS CORPORATE.
I ONLY BOUGHT ONE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE THIS Y'ALL SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING, UM, WE LOVE ANIMAL COMMENT OR SOMETHING.
I LIKE TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYBODY.
SO PLEASE DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
THEY'RE A LITTLE, WE CAN ALWAYS SAY THAT.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR A GENTLEMAN? I'LL MOVE IT.