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TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE AD HOC BLUFFTON GROWTH COMMITTEE TO ORDER TODAY IS NOVEMBER 22ND.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
COLONEL GEIER MADE THE MOTION.
UM, MS. ANGELA MIDDLETON SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA? I DO HAVE ONE THING THAT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO TAKE OFF, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 23RD COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE TO, UM, NEXT TIME.
IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? YES.
UM, SO I'LL CALL FOR THE BOAT.
OKAY, ROBYN, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY? NO, MA'AM WONDERFUL.
UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS A DISCUSSION OF THE FORTY-FIVE DAY COUNT AND WE HAVE, UM, MS. CAROL CRUTCHFIELD WITH TODAY, AS WELL AS ROBERT AUDITING FROM THE DISTRICT TO DISCUSS THOSE NUMBERS.
AND I THINK, UM, I TOOK A PEEK AT THAT AND THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE, CAROL, AND YOUR TEAM FOR WORKING ON THIS.
CAUSE IT'S, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WORK AND I APPRECIATE IT.
WELL, IT'S ABOUT THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE WE TALK ABOUT 45 DAY ENROLLMENTS, BUT FIRST I KIND OF WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHY DO WE LOOK AT 45 DAYS ENROLLMENTS? WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT? SO THE FIRST THING IS IT'S A REQUIRED REPORTING DAY TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
UM, AND I ASSUME THAT THEY DO IT BECAUSE IT'S A STABLE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE THERE'S FEWER FLUCTUATIONS ON A DAILY BASIS AND ENROLLMENTS, BUT FOR US IN LONG-TERM PLANNING, IT'S A FIXED POINT IN TIME THAT WE CAN USE TO COMPARE ACROSS YEARS WHEN WE LOOK AT TRENDS, UM, THAT WE CAN JUST BE CONSISTENT AND USING THAT DATE.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FLUCTUATIONS IN ENROLLMENT.
SO A LITTLE BIT LATER WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OTHER GRAPHS, SO JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA FOR 45 DAY, I PULLED OUT SOME HISTORICAL DATA AND TO SHOW YOU IN WITH THIS YEAR'S, UM, 45 DAY DATA, WHICH IS IN THE LAST COLUMN.
SO YOU'LL SEE FOR THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER, UM, THERE WERE 9,510 STUDENTS ON THE 45TH DAY.
THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 412 STUDENTS OVER LAST YEAR, THE COVID YEAR WHERE WE LOST 290 IN THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER, BUT KIND OF WHAT, WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, WHAT DOES THIS DATA TELL US? IT TELLS US WE'RE BACK ON TRACK WITH THE TRENDS THAT WE WERE SEEING IN THE BLUFFTON AREA BEFORE THE COVID YEAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN, IN 1920 WE SAW, YOU KNOW, CLOSE 391.
SO WE SAW CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER, SAME NUMBER OF GROWTH 18.
SO THAT'S JUST TELLING US HISTORICALLY WHERE WE'RE HEADING BACK ON TRACK AFTER THE COVID YEAR FOR THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TODAY.
UM, LAST YEAR WE, WE STARTED REALLY LOOKING AT BREAKING IT DOWN BY ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH.
SO WE COULD SEE THE AREAS WHERE THE GROWTH IS SO THAT WE CAN DO PLANNING FOR WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED A NEW SCHOOL, WHAT LEVEL IS THAT GOING TO BE INSTEAD OF TAKING THE WHOLE GROWTH? SO THIS YEAR IS 45 DAYS.
YOU CAN SEE REGREW 193, UM, AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL WHERE WE LOST 303, UM, AND THE COVID YEAR.
UM, AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WE HAD GAINED 173.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK WITH THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.
UM, WE GREW 62 THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAD DECLINED 17 THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT.
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19, WE HAD GROWN 201 HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT COVID YEAR, REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH EFFECT ON THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, WE HAD GROWN 138, WHICH WAS EVEN MORE THAN THE YEAR BEFORE A 55.
AND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UH, RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY BEING A K EIGHT, I PULLED IT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT SORT OF SEPARATELY.
AND THEY HAD DECLINED A HUNDRED STUDENTS, WHICH MOST OF THAT DECLINE WAS IN THE ELEMENTARY GRADES.
UM, BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE BACK AND THEY HAVE GROWN 13.
SO BRINGING YOU BACK WITH THOSE SAME TOTALS.
YOU CAN CHANGE FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO I PULLED TOGETHER SOME GROWTH MAPS FOR YOU A ONE YEAR AND A FIVE-YEAR.
UM, SO THIS FIRST ONE LOOKING AT TRENDS, YOU SEE THE MAP SHOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING GROUPS, UM, THAT HAVE GROWN IN RED AND THEN LIGHTER PAYING CAUSE ALSO GROWTH, BUT NOT AS MUCH, THE YELLOW IS JUST KIND OF STABLE.
SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT UP, SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT DOWN.
UM, AND THEN GREEN IS THOSE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWING SOME DECLINE AND THE DARK BLACK LINES.
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY THE ATTENDANCE MINES.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT MOST OF THE, THE PINK, UM, IS OUT IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA THAT DARK PINK, UM, YEP.
RIGHT THERE AND THAT, THAT AREA.
AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE POCKET OF IT RIGHT DOWN IN, UH, IN OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON, WHICH IS INTERESTING.
AND THEN THAT'S THAT, THAT OVER THERE IS HILTON HEAD YES.
SO A POCKET OF GROWTH OVER THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN THE FIVE-YEAR GROWTH MAP.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS HISTORICAL GROWTH.
WE'RE NOT TALKING PROJECTIONS YET.
WE'RE SEEING MOST OF THAT GROWTH OUT IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND THE REST OF THE AREAS ARE, ARE FAIRLY STABLE.
SO THIS NEXT SERIES OF MAPS, UH, NOT MAPS SERIES OF CHARTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, SHOWS YOU ENROLLMENT AT EACH SCHOOL IN THE BLUFFTON AREA.
AND THE DATA IS DERIVED FROM THE DASHBOARDS THAT ARE BUILT INSIDE OF POWER SCHOOL.
AND IT SHOWS THE ENROLLMENT FOR EACH MONTH, FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND INTO NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE AND YOU MAY HAVE NEEDED TO KIND OF REDUCE THE SIZE OF THIS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE GRAPH ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO LET ME KIND OF TALK YOU THROUGH THIS.
SO THE, THE NUMBER LABELS THAT YOU SEE ON THE END OF THE LITTLE BARS THAT IS FOR THE OCTOBER REPORTING, WHICH ROUGHLY TRANSLATES TO A 45TH DAY.
SO IT'S NOT THE 45TH DAY, BUT IT'S SORT OF THE AVERAGE FOR OCTOBER.
THE GRAY DOTTED LINE IS A TREND LINE THAT I CREATED DERIVED FROM THAT OCTOBER REPORTING PERIOD.
SO YOU SEE FOR THIS AS BLUFFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT THAT IS A, A SLOW INCREASE.
AND THEN THE RED SOLID LINE AT THE TOP IS THE CAPACITY OF THAT SCHOOL.
UM, I CAN'T SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
NO, THAT'S THE RED DOTTED LINE.
SO THERE'S A LINE ABOVE THAT WOULD, YEAH, THERE WE GO.
BUT 9 46 IS THE CAPACITY OF THAT SCHOOL.
AND WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IS OUR IDEAL CAPACITY, WHICH IS ABOUT 85%, THE LEAST THE SCHOOL, SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR SPACE, THAT THEY CAN CHANGE PROGRAMS. THEY CAN JUST DO THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO BE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ALWAYS ARE OUR TARGET WHEN WE'VE GOT THOSE TARGET CAPACITIES IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR BOOK THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS THAT PROGRAM, THAT'S NOT A PROGRAM CAPACITY.
IT'S JUST OUR, WHAT WE CALL A TARGET CAPACITY.
WE ARE STILL WORKING ON OUR PROGRAM CAPACITY.
SO I'M NOT SHOWING YOU THAT DATA YET TODAY.
UM, BUT YOU WILL HAVE IT IN, IN THE BOOK WHEN WE PRODUCE THAT.
SO YOU SEE FOR BLUFFED AND ELEMENTARY, AGAIN, THAT TREND LINE IS GOING UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARIATIONS WITHIN EACH YEAR, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL.
AND IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EVERY SCHOOL IS VERY INTERESTING.
IT SEEMS THAT THE PATTERN HERE AT BLUFFTON ELEMENTARY IS IT STARTS OUT LOW AND THEN THAT ENROLLMENT INCREASES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THEN IT DROPS AGAIN THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN GROWS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THE NEXT SCHOOL IS, UH, MC RALEIGH AND ITS CAPACITY
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IS 9 29 AND 85% OF THAT IS 790.UM, THEIR OCTOBER ENROLLMENT WAS 7 87.
SO THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AT THAT IDEAL, UH, CAPACITY USAGE THAT WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
THEIR DOTTED GRAY TREND LINE IS PRETTY FLAT.
UM, YOU SEE THAT THEY WERE KIND OF TOPPING OUT THERE AT 7 91 BACK IN 1718, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT TREND LINE HISTORICALLY IS RATHER FAT FLAT.
AND THEN NEXT SCHOOL IS T ELEMENTARY.
AGAIN, ITS CAPACITY IS 60, 70 TO 85% OF THAT IS 5 71.
THEIR OCTOBER REPORTING WAS 5 74.
SO AGAIN, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE IN THAT IDEAL, UM, CAPACITY USAGE RANGE FIELD, THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL VARIANCES WITHIN EACH YEAR, THIS ONE KIND OF STARTS OUT.
I, IF THERE'S NO REAL PATTERN ON THIS ONE HERE, LIKE EIGHT, GO AHEAD.
AM I LOOKING AT THAT? IT SAYS, OKAY, SO THE 85% CAPACITY, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE DOTTED LINE IS THE RED DOTTED LINE.
THE RED DOTTED LINE IS THE EIGHT.
AND SO FOR THIS YEAR THEY HAD 5 74 AT OCTOBER.
SO THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO RIGHT WHERE WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS ONE'S A GRAY DOTTED LINE IS SHOWING US, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SLIGHT DECLINE OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
TWO IT'S A BUILDING CAPACITY IS 800.
IT'S 85%, UH, IS SIX 80, UH, AT OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, THEY'RE AT 1,023.
AND YOU'LL SEE THE GRAY DOTTED TREND LINE AGAIN IS, IS ON THE INCREASE AND IT'S VARIATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
IT, IT SEEMS TO HAVE, AGAIN, NO REAL PATTERN ON THIS ONE, NOT LIKE BLUFFTON HOUSE AND THE NEXT LINE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME STUFF HERE ABOUT PRITCHARD BILL.
SO CURRENT ENROLLMENT, IT SEEDS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE ABILITY CAPACITY.
AND ACCORDING TO THE O E 8.1 POINT E THIS REQUIRES A SUPERINTENDENT PROPOSED SOLUTION.
WE'VE GOT 10 MOBILE CLASSROOMS ON SITE AND WE PLAN ON, UM, ADDING A EIGHT CLASSROOM MODULAR.
THAT'S GETTING MOVED FROM RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY.
SO WITH ALL THESE MOBILES, IT'LL BRING THE BUILDING CAPACITY TO AROUND 1160.
SO THIS SCHOOL IS NOT DESIGNED OR CONSTRUCTED WITH ANY CLASSROOM EXPANSIONS IN MIND.
SO THE CORE FACILITIES, CAFETERIAS MEDIA CENTER GYM, OR THEY HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM ARE INADEQUATE FOR SERVING THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS.
SO OUR LONG-TERM SOLUTION FOR THIS IS NEW ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM CAPACITY, UM, AT THE MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, WHICH WE HAVE, THAT IS OUR ONLY LAND FOR FUTURE CLASSROOM EXPANSIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT RED.
CEDAR IS CAPACITY A 7 64, 80 5% IS 6 49 AND THEIR, UH, OCTOBER IS KIND OF OBSCURED HERE, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS SIX 18.
SO, UM, THEY'RE JUST UNDER AND I WAS REALLY THAT RED BOND JUST SAT RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S JUST UNDER HIM.
YOU KNOW, WE SAW A BIG DROP IN THE COVID YEAR, WHICH I THINK ALSO HAPPENED TO COINCIDE WITH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL, WITH A CHANGE IN AN APARTMENT, A BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX, UM, THAT WENT FROM SORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO LUXURY APARTMENTS.
AND SO WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF STUDENTS THERE.
UM, YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE RECOVERED SOME FROM THE COVID YEAR.
AND SO THAT TREND LINE, WHICH HAS BEEN, IT IS SORT OF DECLINING YOU, YOU HAD GONE UP IN 19, BUT THEN DROPPED.
SO THAT MAKES THE OVERALL TREND LONDON DECLINE THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH OVER LAST YEAR.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THOSE PROJECTIONS END UP BEING FOR, FOR RED CEDAR AND THEN RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY.
UH, WE ADDED THE CLASSROOM ADDITION.
SO YOU SEE THAT JUMP IN THE RED CUP PASS.
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WE LINE UP TO 1333 AND IT'S 85% IS 1133.AND THIS YEAR, UH, THEY HAD 1113.
SO THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO BEING RIGHT THERE AGAIN AT THEIR IDEAL, UM, CAPACITY.
NEXT SLIDE IS BLUFFED AND MIDDLE.
UH, GANG CAPACITY IS 10 35 80 5% IS 8 79 AND THIS YEAR'S WAS EIGHT 80.
SO AGAIN, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AT THEIR KIND OF IDEAL CAPACITY USAGE AND THEIR TREND LINE AGAIN IS ON AN UPWARD UPPER TREND MCCRACKEN.
THEIR CAPACITY IS 9 0 9 80 5% OF THAT 7 72 THIS YEAR AT OCTOBER, THEY WERE AT NINE 60.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT GRAY TREND LINE, IT IS A STEADILY INCREASING CAUSE AGAIN, THAT SERVES THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA, WHICH WE SAW FROM THE MAPS IS THE AREA THAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN GROWING.
AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT, UM, AGAIN, THIS ALL REQUIRES A PROPOSED SOLUTION.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE EIGHT MOBILE CLASSROOMS ON SITE, FOUR OF WHICH ARE CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR CLASSROOMS ISS AND PE.
UM, THE REMAINING ARE BEING USED FOR STORAGE AND WILL BE RENOVATED.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO THERE TO BRING THEM TO A CLASSROOM USAGE STANDARD, THEY WILL NEED A LITTLE WORK.
SO THAT WILL BE A TOTAL OF EIGHT LOOP MOBILES, UM, THAT CAN BE USED THERE.
UM, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, ADDING A CAPACITY OF 160 BRINGING THAT TOTAL CAPACITY TO 10 69.
UM, AGAIN, THIS SCHOOL IS ALREADY BEEN EXPANDED.
SO HIS CORE CORE FACILITIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL EXPANSIONS, WHICH WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
UM, WHEN THIS COMMITTEE DID THE SCHOOL TOURS, UM, BACK LAST YEAR, NEXT SLIDE.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL, ITS CAPACITY AT 14 30, 4 80 5% OF THAT IS 1218.
AND THEN, UM, THIS YEAR IS OCTOBER REPORTING IS AT 1327.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IT'S TREND LINE IS UPWARD.
UM, THE DROP THAT YOU SEE BACK IN BETWEEN 16, 17 AND 1718, THAT IS REALLY DUE TO THE OPENING OF MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE THE STUDENTS WERE ALLOWED, THE SENIORS WERE ALLOWED TO STAY AND COMPLETE THEIR SENIOR YEAR AT HIGH.
UM, SO YOU DIDN'T SEE THE FULL EFFECT OF OPENING MAY RIVER UNTIL REALLY 1718.
THEN YOU'LL SEE THE, SEE ON THE MAY RIVER CHART, YOU'LL SEE A JUMP BECAUSE OF THAT.
SEE, THERE'S YOUR JUMP IN AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HAVING THE SENIOR STAY.
AND IN THAT COBAR REPORTING, THEY HAD 1,611 STUDENTS.
AGAIN, THE TREND LINE IS UPWARD.
AGAIN, IT SERVES THAT WHOLE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE ALL OF THE GROWTH.
AND THAT IS IT FOR MY DISCUSSION FOR THE 45TH DAY.
AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM, I'LL LET OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS GO FIRST.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE 45 DAY NUMBERS? I DON'T COLONEL THERE.
UM, I HAD, UH, A COUPLE, UM, ROBIN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, PRITCHARD HILL SIDE? THAT'S THE KIND OF THE SYNOPSIS.
AND BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS ON PORTUGAL, UM, CAROL, YOU MENTIONED, UM, A NEW TERM TO ME CAUSE I KNOW PROGRAMMATIC CAPACITY AND BUILDING CAPACITY.
WHAT IS TARGET CAPACITY? I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WAS IDEAL, BUT WHAT IS THE, LIKE THE DEFINITION OF THAT, OR WHAT DOES THAT, UM, THAT 85%, HOW DID WE GET TO THAT NUMBER? UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR, FOR YEARS KIND OF IN OUR BOOK, UM, THAT THAT'S JUST SORT OF AN IDEAL RANGE AND IT'S PART OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TRIGGERS AND YOUR TARGET CAPACITIES IN YOUR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THE O E ROBERT YOU'LL HAVE TO CHIME IN THERE ON THAT WHERE EXACTLY THAT LIES ANYMORE.
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UM, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT IT IN OUR BOOK OF THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'LL DO IT ALLOWS THE SCHOOLS TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, TO BE ABLE TO ADD PROGRAMS, DO SOME CREATIVE THINGS AND USE THEIR SPACE WITHOUT FEELING TIGHT.SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE IN-BETWEEN OF PROGRAM CAPACITY AND BUILDING CAPACITY, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT A CALCULATED, UH, PROGRAM CAPACITY, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO, UH, COMPLETE AND SHOW THAT TO YOU, BUT THERE'S SORT OF A WAY OF HAVING A PROGRAM CAPACITY, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE IF EVERYONE'S 85% USAGE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN UNPRESSURED VILLE ELEMENTARY.
ED RECENTLY HAD BEEN DOING SOME SITE VISITS, UM, JUST CAUSE THIS, THIS, THIS THAT'S MY AREA.
UM, AND SO I WENT TO PRITCHARD VILLE AND ALSO MCCRACKEN RECENTLY.
AND, UM, I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THE MOBILES AT PRITCHARD VILLE.
UM, SO I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL EIGHT CLASSROOM MODULAR THAT'S PROPOSED.
CAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M NOT SURE WHICH HOW MANY OF THEIR CURRENT ONES THEY'RE USING AND THAT THIS IS A SWAP OUT FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MODULAR.
UM, MAYBE ROBERT CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
UM, WHAT I CAN SAY IS THE PLAN WAS TO LEAVE THE MOBILES THERE THAT ARE EXISTING AND BRING IN EIGHT ADDITIONAL.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION THERE, UH, ABOUT THAT, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, WE, WITH THE GROWTH YOU'RE SEEING AT PRITCHARD VILLE, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, NO REMOVING ANY MOBILES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN THE, UH, EIGHT CLASSROOM MODULAR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY AT RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY.
AND WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE THE LOCATION ON THE CAMPUS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT RIGHT NOW.
SO, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.
SO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ONE SIX CLASSROOM MODULAR AND THEN THEY HAVE TWO, TWO CLASSROOM, UM, STANDALONE MOBILES.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY'RE USING ALL FOUR OF THE CLASSROOMS OF THE STANDALONE MOBILES.
UM, AND SO THE ONES THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING IN OR MORE LIKE THE IT'S PRETTY MUCH REPLICA THAT EIGHT CLASSROOM MODULAR, EXCEPT IT HAS TWO MORE ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SINGLE CLASSROOM OR THAT THE DOUBLE CLASSROOM ONES, UM, ARE DIFFICULT TO USE JUST THE, THE SIZE OF, UM, AND, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT SWAPPING OUT OF THOSE.
CAUSE I KNEW THEY WEREN'T USING THEM.
UM, AND MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT THEY'LL STILL SIT ON USED.
UM, I MEAN PERHAPS THEY WILL HAVE TO PUSH THEM TO THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT IDEAL RIGHT NOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IDEAL IN THE FUTURE.
SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT SWAPPING THOSE OUT OR MAKING THOSE THAT BE, UH, THE SPACE FOR THE ADDITIONAL EIGHT AND MAYBE MAKING THAT 10? WELL, AND I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, THE, THE, THE PROBLEM IS JUST THE OVERALL COST TO MOVE THESE, UM, THE, ONCE YOU MOVE THEM, YOU'D RATHER NOT MOVE THEM AGAIN.
AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF USAGE DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, THERE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT, UH, THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE OR SMALLER SIZE, SO THEY'RE NOT AS OPTIMAL AS A FULL-SIZED CLASSROOM OR EVEN THESE MODULAR CLASSROOMS, BUT AS THAT SCHOOL CONTINUES TO GROW, UM, I'D HATE TO, UM, SPEND THE MONEY TO MOVE THOSE OUT OF THERE WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY SET UP, THEY'RE ALREADY READY TO GO.
AND THEY MAY FIND USE AS THAT SCHOOL GROWS TO ACTUALLY USE THOSE SPACES FOR SMALLER PROGRAM CONDUCT THINGS.
SO IF THEY'VE GOT PULLOUT PROGRAMS OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT, THAT SORT OF THE REASON THAT WILL STILL ALLOW THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO PUT THOSE KINDS OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE, THEY ARE A SMALL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOOTPRINT.
SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PUT, YOU KNOW, 24 KIDS IN THERE, BUT IF THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, SPEECH OR SOME OTHER PROGRAM THAT RESOURCE CLASS OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT HAS FEWER STUDENTS IN THAT PROGRAM, THEY COULD USE THAT FOR THAT.
AND SO AS THEY EXPAND, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE STUDENTS, AGAIN, A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THOSE ARE ALL, ALWAYS THOSE PULL-OUT PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T WANT TO REMOVE THOSE.
UM, SO YOU BROUGHT UP, UH, COSTS ROBERT, WHAT IS THE COST TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT CLASSROOM MODULAR AT THAT SITE FROM, IT'S BASICALLY JUST A TRANSPORT FROM RIVER RIDGE TO THERE AND, YOU KNOW, SET UP.
SO I ASSUME IT'S CHEAPER THAN BUYING NEW SO WELL, WHAT I CAN DO, WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING AT HEAL.
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GIVE YOU A HILTON HEAD MIDDLE SCHOOL.WE JUST MOVED THE, UH, SIX CLASSROOM MOBILE FROM HILTON HEAD MIDDLE SCHOOL TO, UH, I MEAN, I'M SORRY FROM, UH, BUFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO HILTON HEAD MIDDLE AND IN THE SET UP AND, UH, FOUNDATION AND ALL THAT WORK AT HILTON HEAD MIDDLE IS ABOUT $80,000.
SO YOUR COST, I'D SAY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MOBILE AT ALL, JUST TO SET UP AS A, YOU KNOW, JUST UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THAT SIZE BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT MCCRACKEN AND THEY'RE SIMILAR WITH, UM, REGARD TO THE MOBILES, BUT I KNOW THAT THE MOBILES AT MCCRACKEN, EVEN BACK WHEN THE COMMITTEE DID THEIR INITIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT SITES THAT THE MOBILES AT MCCRACKEN WERE PROBABLY IN THE WORST SHAPE OF ANY THAT WE LOOKED AT, AND I WAS CONCERNED OF THE AGE OF THOSE, UM, THOSE FACILITIES.
SO CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PLAN FOR RENOVATING THOSE, I GUESS, AND ROBIN, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE MCCRACKEN, UM, SYNOPSIS SLIDE, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.
SO, UM, THE THING ABOUT THE MCCRACKEN MOBILES, AND YES, THEY ARE OLDER, UM, BUT, UH, THEY DO NOT LEAK AND THEIR AIR CONDITIONING WORKS.
AND SO, UM, THEY'RE GONNA NEED SOME TECHNOLOGY BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, ANY REPAIRS LIKE FOR REPAIRS, THINGS LIKE THOSE AND THE STAIRS, ALL THAT WE'LL NEED SOME, UM, SOME WORK, UH, BEFORE THEY CAN BE USED AGAIN AS CLASSROOMS, BUT THAT'S ALL PRETTY MINOR EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MOBILES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY OR AT LEAST THEY WON'T BE THERE FOREVER.
SO IT'S, UH, IT TAKES A MINOR INVESTMENT TO GET THESE THINGS UP AND RUNNING, UH, AND USABLE AS COMPARED TO PURCHASING NEW MOBILES, WHICH IF WE PURCHASE NEW MOBILES, THEY'LL PROBABLY GO AS AN ADDITION TO THESE, NOT AS SWAP OUTS BECAUSE JUST LIKE PRINCEVILLE MCCRACKEN CONTINUES TO GROW.
SO AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW, UM, THE SOLUTION WILL BE TO ADD ADDITIONAL MOBILES.
AND MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE IN STORAGE THERE RIGHT NOW? CAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE USING THEM FOR STORAGE AND THE OTHER ONES ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST IN BAD SHAPE AT THE MOMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET EVERYTHING UP TO THE STANDARD, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN STORAGE? WELL, THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL ON IS TO FIND LOCATIONS FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO THAT'S STILL IN PROGRESS AND REALLY THAT'S STEP ONE.
WE'VE GOT TO FIND A LOCATION TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, PLACE THE, ALL THOSE ITEMS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO LOCATE THEM.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND WE THINK A LOT OF WHAT STORED OUT THERE CAN ACTUALLY BE USED IN THE BUILDING.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME DESK SWAP OUT FOR ONES THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, OLDER SORT OF BROKEN REPLACING THEM WITH A LOT OF THE, SOME THAT WERE OUT THERE IN THE MOBILE CENTER ARE IN GREAT SHAPE.
SO YEAH, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY, MY LAST QUESTION WAS THERE WAS, UH, MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FURNISHINGS THAT THEY HAD THAT WERE NOT BEING USED AND THAT WERE BEING STORED AT ONE POINT, I THINK ON THE STAGE OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT IS NOW, BUT THEY WERE, THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S SOME FURNISHINGS THERE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE OF USE TO THEM.
SO IF IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOT A CLASSROOM ON THE STAGE NOW, UM, MOST OF THOSE THINGS ARE OUT IN STORAGE AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT JUST CAN BE REMOVED.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A PLAN ON THAT.
AND SOME OF THAT, HE'S GOING TO NEED TO FURNISH THE CLASSROOMS AFTER THEY'RE BACK AND READY TO GO.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE IT TOO FAR.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D ADD ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT OUR STORAGE FACILITY HERE AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE IS PRETTY MUCH FULL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE DO NOT HAVE EXTRA STORAGE CAPACITY, WHICH MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND PLACES FOR THIS MATERIAL.
WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE IT VERY FAR.
AND SOME OF THE STORAGE WAS FOOTBALL EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT NOW THAT THEY'RE A LOCKER ROOM HAS BEEN RENOVATED, THEY DO HAVE, UM, SPACE IN THE BUILDING THAT THEY CAN NOW DO THAT.
I MEAN, DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE IT IN THE MIDDLE OF FOOTBALL SEASON, BUT NOW THAT THAT'S OVER THERE, SOME MOVING AROUND, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT SOLUTION.
KLOTZ, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE MOST WELCOME.
AND ONE OF YOUR WAS ONE OF MINE ABOUT THE MODULARS AT MCCRACKEN CAUSE I'VE VISITED THOSE AND THEY SEEM LIKE OF THE MODULARS, CERTAINLY IN BLUFFTON.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT NEED MOST ATTENTION.
UM, SO ROBIN, CAN YOU, SO I FIRST WANT TO THANK, UH, CAROL AND ROBERT FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR DISCUSSION SO FAR IN THE PRESENTATION.
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INTERESTED IN, UH, THIS FORTY-FIVE AT LEAST 45 DAY NUMBERS.CAN YOU SCROLL BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE? I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT HAD THE FIVE-YEAR TREND FOR EACH SCHOOL.
THAT'S LIKE THE SECOND SLIDE, UH, GO BACK.
SO, SO WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM, FROM THIS, UH, UH, ANALYSIS? I THINK WE LEARNED, UH, ONE THAT, UH, LAST YEAR IS DROP, HAS ALREADY CORRECTED TO PRETTY MUCH THE TREND THAT WAS PRECEDING THAT BY, YOU KNOW, BY SEVERAL YEARS.
SO I THINK LAST YEAR WAS SORT OF, I GUESS YOU'D SAY AN ANOMALY OR AN OUTLIER.
SO THE GROWTH DEFINITELY CONTINUES TO BE IN BLUFFTON.
WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT THE, THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE THIS JUST KNOW CONTINUOUS GROWTH.
THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE A LITTLE MORE VARIABLE.
DEFINITELY PRICHARD VILLE IS, IS, UH, IS THE ONE WITH, WITH, UH, UH, A LOT OF, UH, GROWTH.
LIKE YOU MENTIONED IT, FOR EXAMPLE, AT RED CEDAR WHERE A NEARBY A CAR APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, CHANGED FROM, I GUESS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO, UM, UH, MORE LUXURY STYLE APARTMENTS.
SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED IN TONIGHT'S MEETING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BEING NEEDED OUT THERE BY, UM, WHERE THE GROWTH IS THAT IS OUT THERE ON, UH, NEW RIVERSIDE AND COULD BE PUT ON THE, UM, CAMPUS OF, OF, UH, MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, I KNOW ROBERT AT SOME POINT, I THINK YOU WERE QUOTED IN THE NEWSPAPER SAYING WE ALREADY NEEDED AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YEARS AGO.
ANY, ANY MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT? I LIKE THE TIMELINE, ET CETERA, FOR ME, THE TREND LINES YOU'RE SEEING AND THE GROWTH IS THAT YEAH.
AS SOON AS WE COULD BUILD ONE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD, IT'LL BE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, WE'LL COME CLOSE TO FILLING IT UP AS SOON AS IT'S BUILT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, AS SOON AS THE BOARD, AS SOON AS THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE AND WE'RE GIVEN THE GO-AHEAD, WE'RE TWO YEARS OUT AT A MINIMUM.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT GOING AHEAD BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MONEY AVAILABLE.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT DOING DESIGN WORK OR ANYTHING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
SO WE'RE AT A MINIMUM NOW, TWO PLUS YEARS OUT, AND I KNOW, UM, CAROL WILL BE SHOWING THE PROJECTIONS.
UH, WE COME OUT WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE-YEAR PLAN HERE IN JANUARY.
AND SO AT THAT POINT, IT'LL BE EASIER TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR ELEMENTARY AND BUFFS.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT, THAT IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR, UH, CURRENT REFERENDUM THAT WAS PASSED IN 2019, NO DESIGN WORK FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO, UH, INCORPORATE IN, IN, IN, IN FUTURE, UH, REFERENDUM.
SO I'M FINISHED WITH MY QUESTIONS.
UM, DID I HEAR MR. ALLEN SAID THAT IT WAS $8,000 TO MOVE THOSE MOBILES AND GIVE THEM SET IT BACK UP WHEN YOU SAID, I, I DID SAY THAT THE MOBILES THAT WE JUST MOVED FROM BUFORD ELEMENTARY TO HILTON HEAD MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THE SETUP IS $80,000, BUT WE STILL DO.
WE STILL ALWAYS STILL OWN THOSE MOBILE UNITS OR WHAT'S THE CORRECT THAT THAT COST IS JUST A COST FOR SETTING UP THE FOUNDATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR MOBILES AND BRINGING THE UTILITIES TO THE MOBILE.
SO THAT COST DOES VARY FROM SITE TO SITE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON YOUR DISTANCE, AWAY FROM WATER LINES AND ELECTRICAL LINES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT I WAS JUST GIVING THAT AS ONE DATA POINT THAT WE JUST RECENTLY FINISHED PRICING WAS THE COST FOR THE MOBILES THAT HILTON HAD MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING AT PRITCHARD HILL.
UM, ROBERT, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THE SAME THING WE DID WITH THE ATTACK, THE EXTENSIONS TO MAY RIVER AND RIVER RIDGE.
UM, I THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A REFERENDUM AND NOVEMBER, 2023, THAT DECEMBER, OR I'M SORRY, JANUARY, 2023, WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE TO USE 8%
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MONEY TO DO THE DESIGN WORK, UH, LIKE WE DID FOR THE OTHER TWO EXTENSIONS.SO WHEN WE PASS THE REFERENDUM AND NOVEMBER, 2023 IN JANUARY, 2024, WE CAN BREAK GROUND.
NOW THE DISCUSSION HAS TO BE NOW WHETHER THAT IS A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR A MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND I SEE IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR TALKING ABOUT LATER ON, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.
AND, UH, BECAUSE WITH THIS GROWTH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE GROUND VERY, VERY QUICKLY, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY MORE MOBILES THAT I SURE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT YOU MAY BE FORCED TO DO IT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M TRYING TO PUT THE AGENDA ON MY END OVER HERE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE 45 DAY ACCOUNT? ALL RIGHT.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION, I SUPPOSE NATZKE SURE.
UM, Y'ALL, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK, UM, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN DOING YOUR TOURS OF THE BUSTING CLUSTER AND SEEING THE CONDITIONS OF THE SCHOOLS, HOW, HOW DO YOU ALL RELATE, UM, THE SCHOOLS THAT WERE SAYING CAPACITY BEING WAY OVER THOSE THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE'D LIKE THEM TO BE? HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO YOUR TOURS? IS WHAT DID YOU SEE AS FAR AS CAPACITY OF BUILDINGS? IS IT, IT MAKES, I GUESS, DOES IT MAKE SENSE WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU OR DOES IT NOT RELATE TO WHAT YOU SAW OR YOU WOULD SAY, UM, IT RELATES PRETTY DIRECTLY TO WHAT YOU SAW WHEN YOU WERE TOURING AND BUILDINGS? UM, WELL, SO I, MOST RECENTLY I'VE DONE, UM, TOURS OF MCCRACKEN, PORTERVILLE, UM, AND A HANDFUL OF OTHERS.
BUT SINCE THOSE TWO ARE HUGE POINTS ON HERE, UM, I THINK THE MOBILE CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE A VERY BIG ONE.
UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THOSE OBVIOUSLY PARENTS DO NOT LIKE MOBILES.
I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE MOBILES EITHER.
UM, SO I THINK MAKING SURE THAT THE CONVERSATIONS SURROUNDING THE MOBILES, UM, ADDRESSES ALL THE CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SMELLS OR WHAT THEY'RE BEING USED FOR AND, AND THE ABILITY OF STUDENTS TO USE THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A GREAT LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MAIN CRUX OF THE CONVERSATION.
UM, BUT I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS FALLS IN LINE, THE NUMBERS ALL KIND OF JIVE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING AND WHAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT HAPPEN.
SO, UM, COLONEL DIRE, ANGELA OR DR.
GODS, I AGREE WITH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SAFETY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AND MOBILES, THAT THAT'S A BIG CONVERSATION, ANYTIME YOU VISIT.
UM, I HAVE NOT VISITED ANY OF THE SCHOOLS, THIS SCHOOL TERM, BUT LAST SCHOOL TERM, I WAS THERE DURING, I VISITED ALL THE SCHOOLS IN MY AREA, UM, DURING COVID.
UM, AND YOU COULD TELL THAT THE NUMBERS WERE LESS.
UM, BUT I KNOW I, FOR THE, I AGREE THAT FOR THE LONGEST TIME WE'VE NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY, UM, IN NEW RIVERSIDE, THAT GROWTH IS EXPONENTIAL.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TEARING DOWN TREES THAT I CAN PASS THEIR AT LEAST THREE TIMES A DAY AND THE SEVENTH TREES ARE GONE.
SO WE DO NEED A SCHOOL OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY TO TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF OF PRICHARD THOUGH.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S, UM, ADDITIONALLY TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, UM, THAT'S GOING TO VERY QUICKLY BE SOMETHING THAT SNEAKS UP ON US.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO ALLEVIATE, UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS AS WELL AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ONE K THROUGH FIVE OR K THROUGH EIGHT, WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING, UH, VERY QUICKLY, WE'VE SEEN THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE OUR GROWTH AREA AT FIRST, UM, EVEN DURING COVID.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST KICKING THE, CAN DOWN THE ROAD WITH ANY POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS AS WELL.
SO, SO I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL, SINCE THEY ARE DEFINITELY OVERCAPACITY, WHERE WOULD WE PUT A, ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL IN THIS AREA? ONLY ONE PICK UP, WE DON'T HAVE LAND FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT IS PART OF WHY WE HIRED, UH, YOU KNOW, LAND CONSULTANTS
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TO WORK, TO WORK WITH US ON IDENTIFYING THAT KIND OF PROPERTY.AND, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT SOON.
I REALLY DO AT THIS POINT, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.
SO, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONVERSATIONS NEED TO JUST LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES OF, OF A K FIVE VERSUS A K EIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOUR CONVERSATIONS WILL NEED TO INCLUDE WHAT DOES A NEXT HIGH SCHOOL LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, IS THERE A REAL NEED FOR A FULL-SIZE HIGH SCHOOL? WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT PROJECTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN THAT, WHEN WE MIGHT NEED HIT THAT TARGET, UM, OR DOES IT BECOME SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT.
THAT'S KIND GOING TO BE MY COMMENT TO, TO ANGELA IS THAT IT ASSUMES WE NEED A WHOLE NEW HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, WE MAY, I DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE POTENTIALS ARE FOR OUR EXISTING FACILITIES, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THOSE COMMON AREAS ARE STRETCHED THEN.
SO ANY SOLUTION WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
UM, IF, IF I CAN ADD, YEAH, HIGH SCHOOLS ARE A LOT TOUGHER, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR OVERALL SIZE, YOU KNOW, A HIGH OUR HIGH SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW, OR, YOU KNOW, TWO TO THREE TIMES BIGGER THAN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO IT'S EASIER TO PREDICT WHEN YOU NEED AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND BUILD IT, FILL IT LIKE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK IF WE BUILT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY FULL AT DAY ONE.
AND YOU'LL HARDLY BE ABLE TO TELL THAT A THERE'S A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE, UM, WHERE A HIGH SCHOOL IS DIFFERENT JUST DUE TO THEIR SIZE.
AND WHEN TO BUILD THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH CAPACITY, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A TOUGHER BALANCING ACT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IN THE FUTURE IS, IS WE CONTINUE TO SEE NEED FOR A HIGH SCHOOL GOING FORWARD.
SO SEE NO OTHER HANDS I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION OF STUDENT GROWTH IN THE TAG AREAS.
AND CAROL, AGAIN, THAT'S ME, IT FEEL IT FEEL PULL THAT BACK UP AND THAT PRESENTATION ROBIN OR MOLLY WHOEVER'S DRIVING THE SHIP.
SO WHEN, UH, UH, MARIA WALLS, THE COUNTY TREASURER GAVE US THE PRESENTATION ON THE TAG AREAS BACK WAS THAT THIS SUMMER TIME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF POPPED IN MY MIND WAS, OH, I WONDER HOW THAT RELATES OR CORRELATES OR DOES IT TO A STUDENT GROWTH.
SO IF SHE'S SEEING GROWTH IN A NUM NUMBER OF NEW ACCOUNTS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, ARE WE SEEING SIMILAR PATTERNS OF GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS FOR STUDENTS? SO I TOOK THOSE MAPS THAT, THAT, UH, THE COUNTY PROVIDED AND THAT SHE USED TO DO HER TABLES.
AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T PULL UP HER CHARTS TO, TO LAY DIRECTLY ON HERE TO DO THAT COMPARISON.
BUT, UM, SO I USE THAT SAME MAPPING AREA.
AND THEN I JUST COUNTED THE STUDENTS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, TO KIND OF SEE WHAT TRENDS THERE MIGHT BE.
SO THIS WAS ALL OF THE, THE DIFFERENT COUNTY AREAS.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, WHAT SHE WAS SEEING IN ALMOST EVERY AREA, IF YOU RECALL, IS THAT THERE WAS GROWTH, THERE WAS GROWTH IN THOSE NUMBERS, BUT FOR STUDENT GROWTH, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT SEEING THAT SAME PATTERN.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE, I JUST PULLED OUT THE BLUFFTON, UM, BLUFFTON NUMBERS.
SO, UH, ONE 10, THAT IS A LITTLE AREA THAT WAS ANNEXED BY THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL UP THERE IN THE DARK BLUE, UH, 600 THAT RELATES TO THE COUNTIES, UM, THE AREA IN THE BLUFFTON GREATER BLUFFTON AREA, THAT'S IN THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THE GREEN IS SIX 10, AND THAT IS, UH, WITHIN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON LIMITS.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE, UH, SIX 50, THAT'S THE LITTLE AREA OUT THERE BY SUN CITY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE TOWN OF HARTSVILLE.
SO THE ONLY ONE WE'RE SEEING REAL GROWTH IN THAT RELATES TO STUDENT GROWTH IS SIX 10.
THOSE AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN THE, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
SO THIS JUST MY LITTLE, YOU KNOW, OH, I WONDER IF THEY, THEY CORRELATE, WELL, IT DIDN'T EXACTLY HAVE THE RESULTS I THOUGHT WE MIGHT SEE.
UM, BUT WE STILL ARE SHOWING GROWTH IN CERTAINLY IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AREA THAT, THAT CORRELATES BACK OUT THERE TO THE, ALL OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE, UM, IN THOSE PUD THAT WE MONITOR ALL THE TIME.
SO I PROMISED YOU THE DATA THAT WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND HERE IT IS.
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AND, UM, I'M NOT THAT SURE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT TO GOING FROM IT, EXCEPT THAT SOME OF THE INDICATORS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, OH, WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE GROWING, DO NOT ALWAYS CORRELATE TO STUDENT GROWTH.ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ON THE TAG AREAS? NO.
AND SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF K THROUGH FIVE OR K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOLS.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE MS. ASHLEY HUTCHINSON FROM OUR INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO CHAT WITH US ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES K THROUGH FIVE K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOLS.
UM, THIS IS JUST IN PREPARATION OF, UM, THE POTENTIAL OF A NEW, UM, ELEMENTARY OR ELEMENTARY SLASH MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THAT, UM, NEW RIVERSIDE AND MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL AREA.
SO, UM, ASHLEY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THOSE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCHOOLS, UM, THE ACADEMIC, UM, BENEFIT OF EITHER, OR, UM, SURE.
UM, I, AND I KNOW ROBERT AND I DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY WITH DR.
STRATA, SOME ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES, UM, OF THE K FIVE OR THE K EIGHT SCHOOL.
SO CURRENTLY RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY IS A K OR ACTUALLY A PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE SCHOOL.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE K EIGHT AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EARLY LEARNING CENTERS.
SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL IN THE BLUFFTON AREA.
UM, MOST OF OUR EARLY LEARNING CENTERS HOUSE PRE-KINDERGARTEN KINDER AND THEN SOMETIMES UP TO FIRST GRADE, AND THEN SOMETIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST PRE-K AND K DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE GRADE STRUCTURE, UM, THERE REALLY ARE ADVANTAGES, UM, TO ALL THERE THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EVERY WAY THAT YOU STRUCTURE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON, AND ROBERT AND CAROL CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS AS WELL, BUT WHETHER YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP SMALLER CLASS OR YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP, UM, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN GRADE SPAN IN A SCHOOL DEPENDS ON WHAT PHILOSOPHY THE DISTRICT REALLY WANTS AND WHAT DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO IN.
UM, CAROL, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING WITH THAT OR ROBERT, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, UM, IS THAT THE MAY RIVER SITE WAS SET UP TO HAVE TWO SCHOOLS KIND OF PLANNED OUT.
SO JUST AT THE MAY RIVER SITE IN GENERAL, IT WAS KIND OF SET UP OR THOUGHT TO TWO SCHOOLS THAT WOULD EITHER BE AN ELEMENTARY IN THE MIDDLE OR TWO DIFFERENT K EIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S MY ONLY THING TO ADD TO THAT CONVERSATION IS, OR ONE VERY LARGE K EIGHT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DESIRE OR WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF THAT MODEL, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THAT SITE'S GOT ROOM FOR TWO OR ONE LARGE SCHOOL.
IS IT BETTER TO GO TO THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR TWO DIFFERENT CAVES? I WILL ADD IN WITH WHAT ROBERT SAID ABOUT THE LARGE VERSUS THE LARGER CAPACITY VERSUS SMALLER ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND.
SO PRE, UM, RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY IS A TRUE PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE SCHOOL CONCEPT.
UM, OVER ON THE NORTH OF THE BROAD SIDE, ROBERT SMALLS IS A PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE SCHOOL, BUT IT ALSO FEEDS IN AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND ABOUT AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT WHAT OUR PHILOSOPHY IS ON PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE SCHOOLS.
ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT TRUE MODEL WITH FIDELITY OF THE PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE CONCEPT? OR ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT, AND WILL WE HAVE TO HAVE A FEED IN OPTION AT THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL? YEAH.
YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.
ACTUALLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD ON MY SITE VISITS FROM PRINCIPALS IS THERE IS A LARGE DESIRE AMONG THE PRINCIPALS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRUE FEEDERS AND, UM, COLONEL GEIER.
I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO BE HAVING AT THIS COMMITTEE LEVEL IS WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR BLUFFTON? UM, AND JUST PERSONALLY, IF I'M THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT SITE AT MAY RIVER, UM, I THINK THAT HAVING IT BE PRE-K THROUGH EIGHT, UM, MAKES THE MOST SENSE, UH, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE, THE PRE-K PROGRAM IN
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BLUFFTON THAT THERE'S SO MANY THAT WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT, IF THERE WAS MORE AVAILABILITY FOR IT.UM, AND OBVIOUSLY GETTING A HOLD OF THEM AT THAT PRE-K AGE, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE FULL BOARD MEETINGS BEFORE.
UM, HAVING THEM WITH US FROM THAT VERY START AND ON THROUGH IS SO BENEFICIAL FOR THEM, UH, ACADEMICALLY PROVIDER.
YEAH, I I'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT, UH, THE FEEDER MODEL AT ROBERT SMALLS AND I'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT, UH, RIVERVIEW, UH, WHICH IS A PRE K THROUGH EIGHT.
AND, UH, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL ADVANTAGES.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THAT RIVER VIEW AS, UH, THE EIGHTH GRADERS REALLY WORKING WITH THE KINDERGARTEN FIRST GRADE, SECOND GRADE.
AND IT'S A MORE OF A FAMILY, BIG BROTHER, LITTLE BROTHER, A SISTER.
UH, IT HAS SOME REAL ADVANTAGES FOR BOTH OF THE YOUNGER KIDS AND FOR THE OLDER KIDS.
UH, THEY, THEY TEND TO MATURE A LITTLE FASTER WHEN THEY HAVE TO, UH, BECOME ROLE MODELS FOR YOUNGER KIDS.
AND, UH, IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF IT WAS A TRUE FEEDER INTO MAY RIVER, HIGH SCHOOL, LOGISTICALLY AND CULTURALLY, THAT WOULD BE ONE SUPER CAMPUS REALLY, UH, OF, UH, OF A SUPER GOOD SIZE K THROUGH EIGHT AND MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER.
UM, I THINK FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, I SEE MORE ADVANTAGES THAT WAY THAN IN WITH TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY, UH, RESEARCH THAT SUPPORTS THAT INTUITIVE, UH, VIEW ON MY PART, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD DRIVE WHAT WE DECIDE IT SHOULD BE.
WHAT RESEARCH SAYS ACADEMICALLY IS THE BEST, UH, CONFIGURATION FOR THAT.
BUT ONE THING I HOPE IS THAT WE DON'T REINVENT THE WHEEL.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD, WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD, UM, PLANS FOR BOTH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND FOR PRE-K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL AND THAT WE DON'T TRY TO BE SLICK AND MAKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT FOOTPRINT.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN PROVEN, MAYBE THE ROBERT SMALLS AND JUST PUT IT OVER THERE, THAT'LL SAVE US SOME DESIGN MONEY.
IT'LL SAVE US, UH, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE IT'S A RIVER, A RIVER VILLAGE, UH, FOOTPRINT AND DESIGN, BUT WHATEVER WE DO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IT FIGURED OUT IN JANUARY, 2023.
SO TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO KEEP US.
SO TALKING WITH PREVIOUS PRINCIPALS FROM ROBERT SMALLS, UM, INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY, THEY DO STRUGGLE WITH THE CONCEPT OF THOSE MIDDLE-SCHOOLERS THEN FEEDING IN.
SO IT DOES TAKE AWAY FROM THE PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE CONCEPT WHEN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS OR SOME MIDDLE SCHOOLERS THEN FEED FEED IN.
UM, THAT IS JUST SOME FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE HAD WITH SOME OF THE PRINCIPALS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.
UM, SO I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CONCEPT, WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT US FOR A DISTRICT IS THAT PRE-KINDERGARTEN PIECE AS WELL.
SO AS A DISTRICT MOVING FORWARD OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AS A DISTRICT, WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT PRE-K FOR ALL MODEL OR CONCEPT ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEARD, SOME OF YOU HEARD FROM ME A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, RAISING THAT BAR TO THEN BEGIN TAKING THE CHILDREN FROM THE 70 TO 75TH PERCENTILE AND BELOW.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE, WE GAVE IT, WE GATHERED DATA OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE 75TH PERCENTILE AND BELOW, AND SEE IF WE WANT TO MAKE THAT NEXT MOVE FOR PRE-K FOR ALL OR NOT, OR STAY WITH THE 75TH KEEPING, KEEPING THAT IN MIND.
YOU'VE ALSO GOT, UM, INFORMATION COMING DOWN FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION OF, HE IS REALLY WANTING TO EXPAND THAT THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLD ACCESS TO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF BITS AND PIECES WILL COME DOWN FROM HIS, UM, ADMINISTRATION OR ALL OF IT.
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UM, WHEN WE GO TO A PRE-K FOR ALL CONCEPT, JUST LIKE WHEN WE WENT TO HISTORICALLY FROM A KINDERGARTEN HALF DAY CONCEPT TO NOW WE'RE ALL SERVING ALL FULL DAY KINDERGARTNERS PRE-KINDERGARTEN WAS CREATED TO ONCE KINDERGARTEN L ALL STUDENTS WENT TO KINDERGARTEN FOR THE INTERVENTION PROCESS FOR FOUR FOUR-YEAR-OLDS TO CATCH UP TO THEIR SAME AGE PEERS, BY THE TIME THEY GET INTO KINDERGARTEN, IF WE, AS A DISTRICT EVENTUALLY GET TO THAT PLACE WHERE WE WANT, WE SAY, WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT PRE-K OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL.WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THREE-YEAR-OLD INTERVENTION PROGRAMS BECAUSE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.
SO PRE-K FOR ALL GIVES AN EXPERIENCE AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.
WE THEN NO LONGER SO USE PRE-K AS AN INTERVENTION.
SO THEN THE INTERVENTION WILL HAVE TO BE THE THREE K PROGRAMS. SO A FEW MONTHS AGO, OR I THINK LAST YEAR I CAME, I THINK THAT IN THE SAME COMMITTEE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL EARLY LEARNING CENTERS OR ROOM TO SERVE THOSE PRE-K, OR PRE-K THREE CHILDREN, AS WELL AS INCORPORATING SEVERAL HEADSTART CLASSROOMS IN THE BLUFFTON AREA TO SERVE, UM, ALSO AS AN INTERVENTION.
SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PRE-K OR KINDERGARTEN THROUGH EIGHT GRADE CONCEPT, OR ADDING, ELEMENTERIES KEEP IN MIND WITH THAT NEXT REFERENDUM, IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO GO AS A DISTRICT TO SERVE MORE OR EXPAND EARLY CHILDHOOD, EARLY CHILDHOOD BUILDINGS OR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED AS WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE MAY RIVER SITE, THEN IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WE ALSO NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT, I MENTIONED THE HIGH SCHOOLS IS HAVEN'T MEETING POTENTIALLY SOMETHING THERE TO ALLEVIATE THEIR OVERGROWTH, BUT THEN ALSO TO LOOP IN THE, UM, EARLY CHILDHOOD COMPONENT AND THE PK PART, UM, AT THE CONVERSATION, I DON'T KNOW IF, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WOULD DEFER TO CAROL AND ROBERT WITHIN YUMA SESSIONS IN WITH YOUR EXPERTISE ON WHAT THE DISTRICT THINKS THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THE BEST PLACES FOR THOSE CENTERS TO BE.
UM, BUT ALSO IN PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, KEEPING IN WITH THE TRUE FEEDER SCHOOL PATTERN, UM, AND MAKING IT HOLISTIC IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT IN REGARD TO THE DISCUSSION OF ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF PK THROUGH FIVE OR EIGHT, OR I HAVE A QUESTION THAT THE MAY RIVER CAMPUS CAN AND HOLD AN EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT CENTER, ANY LARGE K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL.
UM, YES, WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY EXACTLY WAS LAID OUT TO HAVE TWO FULL FULL-SIZE SCHOOLS AND THEN ALSO HAVE AT THE FRONT, UM, MAYBE IN AUXILIARIES, SMALLER SERVICE BUILDING, LIKE WHETHER IT WAS A POOL OR COUNTY REC BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT COULD ACTUALLY HANDLE TWO FULL SIZED SCHOOLS OR ONE LARGE ONE, AND STILL, UH, AND A PRE-K K BUILDING AS WELL.
SO THE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS, UH, 220 ACRES OF THAT.
I BELIEVE 120 IS BUILDABLE AND 80 IS WHAT WE'VE BUILT SO FAR.
SO WE STILL HAVE 40 ACRES OF BUILDABLE LAND ON THAT PROPERTY NOW.
AND WHAT I RAISED MY HAND I'LL PUT DOWN, UM, CAUSE ONE OF THE ITEMS I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHICH WE REALLY HAVEN'T STARTED AND IT'S KIND OF RAISING ITS HEAD IS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE BUILDINGS, BUT TO SUPPORT THEM WITH THE ROADS IN THAT AREA IS A, IT KIND OF BECOMING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO HILTON.
HEAD'S WHERE TRAFFIC KIND OF DICTATES WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE TWO INS AND OUTS.
AND THE CAMPUS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE ONLY THE TWO DRIVES.
AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, IT'S THE SECOND DRIVE THAT YOU COME IN, THERE'S THE TWO PONDS AND YOU SEE KIND OF A ROAD GOING OFF TO THE LEFT.
THAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE NEW SCHOOLS AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE LOCATED.
SO THEY WOULD COME IN THAT, DRIVE THIS NOW THE BUS ENTRANCE, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD EXIT.
SO TRAFFIC IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE LOOKED AT CLOSELY AND IT MAY ACTUALLY THROTTLED BACK WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THERE.
DO YOU YOUR SOLUTIONS TO HAVING TO THROTTLE IT BACK?
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WELL, I MEAN, KIND OF WHAT YOU, LIKE I SAID, YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS AS YOU HAVE HILTON HEAD, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR SITUATIONS.UM, WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO AT HILTON HEAD IS, YOU KNOW, IS TO ACTUALLY DO THEY THERE'S ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO STAGGER THE MIDDLE AND HIGH IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S OF SIMILAR SCENARIO IS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT AT THE, UH, AS WE EXPAND THAT IS TO DO VARIOUS CAMPUS TIMES THAT COULD ALLOW YOU TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE THREE BUILDINGS, WHETHER IT'S A, UH, K THROUGH EIGHT, A HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN A, UH, EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO LOOK AT THREE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UH, ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE TIMES KIND OF SPACE OUT THOSE THAT ARE USING THOSE DRIVES.
SO YEAH, IT MIGHT BE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AT SOME POINT, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A FACTOR IN THIS ONE.
UM, SO A QUESTION HOW I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND YOU PROBABLY DO EVER, HOW MUCH WAS THE DESIGN WORK COST FOR RIVEREDGE? WELL, I DO NOT REMEMBER.
I MEAN, IT'S STANDARD A PERCENTAGE, UH, COST, AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST A STANDARD NUMBER, JUST THROW OUT THERE 6% OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU HAVE FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEES.
UM, AND THAT ENDS UP BEING A PRETTY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION.
SO, AND ANY BUILDING, IF YOU, EVEN IF YOU TOOK RIVER RIDGE, LET'S JUST SAY AND USED IT AGAIN, WE WOULD MODIFY IT, UM, AND, AND CHANGE IT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
IT'S BEEN, BY THE TIME WE BUILD IT, IT WAS, UH, OPENED IN, UH, 15.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 23, YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO 10 YEARS SINCE IT WAS BUILT THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE OPEN.
SO, UH, THERE WOULD BE SOME CHANGES IN THE WAY WE DO SOME THINGS SPECIFICALLY IN THE WAY WE'D LAY OUT TECHNOLOGY IN THOSE SPACES.
UM, SO, UM, YES, THERE COULD BE SOME SAVINGS, BUT LET'S SAY IF YOU REBUILD IT INSTEAD OF A 6% FEE DROPS TO A FIVE OR FOUR AND A HALF, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S A SAVINGS.
UM, BUT NOT A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE BUDGET OF THAT, OF A BUILDING OF THAT SIZE.
AND, AND USING A ROBERT SMALLS DESIGN AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A HEAVILY WEIGHTED MIDDLE SCHOOL SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S SORT OF DESIGNED THAT WAY AND IT'S DESIGNED WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY, SO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO STAY THAT WAY, BUT THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF HOW IT'S DESIGNED.
SO, AND I'M GOING TO ADD TO CAROL TOO, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ROBERT SMALLS, WHEN WE CONVERTED THAT FROM A ACADEMICALLY, FROM A MIDDLE SCHOOL TO A ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, UM, IT WAS BUILT AS A MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO WHEN YOU TAKE THOSE ELEMENTARY, UM, CHILDREN AND PUT THEM IN SMALLER CLASSROOMS, UM, THOSE, THOSE CLASSROOMS ARE PRETTY MUCH SMALLER THAN A TYPICAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASSROOM, WHICH HAVE WE HAVE RUN INTO, ESPECIALLY IN THE EARLY CHILDHOOD AREA, RUN INTO SOME, SOME STRUGGLES WITH THAT, ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT CAN BE IN A CLASSROOM.
UM, ELEMENTARY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE, BUT WITH THE EARLY CHILDHOOD, AT LEAST IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE, UM, WITH THE SIZE OF THOSE ROOMS. I WOULD SAY THAT ROBERT SMALL BUILDING HAS THE NEW ONE.
UM, YEAH, IT COULD BE EASILY ADAPTED TO A YEAH.
A STANDARD MODEL, UH, K THROUGH EIGHT BUILDING OR PRE-K THROUGH EIGHT BUILDING.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS SEEING NONE GOOD DISCUSSION, EVERYBODY LET'S MOVE ON TO THE FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
I HAVE JUST A HANDFUL OF THE MINUTES.
UM, DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE LAND CONSULTANT THAT COULD COME AT A DECEMBER MEETING? WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN WE HAVE A DECEMBER MEETING, ACTUALLY I WOULD ASK WHAT WOULD YOU WANT HIM TO TALK ABOUT? YEAH.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY YET TO PRESENT ANYTHING.
UM, AND SO, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PROJECT A MONTH OUT WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING TO COME UP.
UM, SO, UM, I THINK HE NEEDS A LITTLE MORE TIME PERSONALLY.
UM, YOUR DECEMBER MEETING WOULD HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THE 23RD.
UM, WE, THE DISTRICT OFFICE IS OPEN THE 20TH AND THE 21ST.
SO IF YOU WANT TO MOVE YOUR MEETING TO THAT WEEK, YOU CAN MOVE IT TO THE 20TH
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OR 21ST CURRENTLY AGENDA SETTING IS SET AT FOUR O'CLOCK ON THE 20TH.WELL, UM, I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET, UH, AN UPDATE FROM THE TREASURER.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR, SHE HAD SAID THAT SHE WOULD COME BACK AND GIVE AN UPDATE.
UM, SO I WILL HAVE TO REACH OUT TO HER AND SEE IF SHE'S AVAILABLE ON EITHER OF THOSE DAYS.
I KNOW SINCE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAYS, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
UM, SO THAT WAS ONE OTHER ITEM I HAD.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ITEMS TO GO ON? UH, ROBERT OR CAROL? WELL, THE ONLY ONE THAT I'LL GO AHEAD.
UH, THE ONLY ONE I COULD THINK OF WOULD BE TO REACH OUT AGAIN TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UM, THEY NORMALLY DO A BIG REPORT ON GROWTH, UM, IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT, BUT I HAVE NOT GONE OUT AND LOOKED FOR IT, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY MIGHT BE, BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD REACH OUT TO THEM, UM, EITHER FOR DECEMBER OR FOR JANUARY.
SO WE'LL TRY TO GET, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL QUERY THEIR AVAILABILITY FOR IF THEY HAVE THAT REPORT FOR DECEMBER, UM, AND THE TREASURER AS WELL.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHO WE CAN GET ON, UM, EITHER DATE, DECEMBER, JANUARY, AND I'LL S I'LL LOOP BACK AND ROBIN, IF YOU CAN ASSIST IN HELPING ME LOOP BACK TO EVERYBODY AND LET THEM KNOW THE STATUS OF THOSE THINGS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL DO THAT, THE 20TH DATE, AS LONG AS THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AT, WITH 5:00 PM, BE OKAY.
OR IS THAT TOO CLOSE TO AGENDA SETTING? UM, IT WORKED OUT THIS TIME, BUT IT IS KIND OF CLOSE TO AGENDA SETTING, UH, FIVE 30.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAY, IF AGENDA SETTING RUNS, UH, WE RUN A LITTLE OVER BECAUSE WE NEED A 15 MINUTE TURNAROUND.
WELL, WE'LL TRY TO, UH, W I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE OF EITHER ONE OF THOSE.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO QUERY AND SEE IF, WHAT WE CAN GET ON THAT DATE AND MAYBE PUT ONE ON DECEMBER AND ONE ON JANUARY, ASK THEM PERHAPS WHAT THEY PREFER.
SO WE WANT TO HOLD THE 20TH AT FIVE 30.
UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN PLEASE? MADAM CHAIR.