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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 20, 2021 AND OCTOBER 18, 2021]

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

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THAT WAY YOU KNOW THAT YOU WOULDN'T MAKE A LEFT BEFORE THEY HAVE A WAY TO GO BACK

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SOUTH TOWARDS FISHER BILL. I'M NOT DOING THAT AND ONE OF THE REASONS PLUS THE

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ROUNDABOUT WORKS VERY WELL BECAUSE THE MAJOR MOVEMENT STARTING AND GOING AROUND ABOUT

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THE LOOP RAMP DOESN'T END AT AROUND RIBAUT THE MAJOR ON RAMP DOESN'T GO IN THERE AND RIBAUT SO IT ACTUALLY WORKS VERY WELL FOR ME. IT'S JUST THREE BONDS REALLY ALL THE ROUND BALANCE FOR THOSE GETTING OFF. SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT

JUST TO GO FOR A QUICK SCHEDULE. >> WE WERE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE TODAY. WE SURVEY WAS COMPLETE LAST WEEK.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET THE SURVEY FILES PROCESSED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN HIT DESIGN COME DECEMBER. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING I'VE MENTIONED THOSE NINE PROJECTS IS GOING DESIGN AND HOPEFULLY HAVING A PRELIMINARY SET OF DESIGNS BY, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE TO LATE JANUARY THEN SO WE CAN GET THEM TO THE REVIEW GROUP REVIEW AGENCIES TO LOOK AT THEM AND HOPEFULLY IF ALL GOES TO PLAN LATE SOMETIME IN JUNE AND GET THIS THING GOING.

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SO THAT'S MY DATE. THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS MEMBERS?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY. SURE.

I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE COUNT SOLD TO INSTRUCT EITHER THE ENGINEER OR STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE TOWN OF HARDY VILLE CAUSE MANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE ARE IMPROVING ALONG HIGHWAY 170 ARE ITEMS THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITHIN THE TOWN OF HARDY VILLE THAT REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO DO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS SO WE MAY BE FUNDING THINGS OUT OF THE COUNTY BUDGET THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON DEVELOPERS OF RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND TOWN ALREADY VAIL.

SO I WOULD HANG I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTION IS NECESSARY TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SIT DOWN WITH DOWN A HARDY VAIL AND SEE WHAT ITEMS WE CAN PURSUE WITH THE DEVELOPERS ALONG THAT 170 CORRIDOR RIGHT THERE AND ENFORCE THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALMOST DEVELOPERS WITHOUT US EXPANDING COUNTY FUNDS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO COOPERATE WITH THEM. WE WANT TO DO THAT BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE

OBLIGATED TO DO. >> THANK YOU. IF I MIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I LIKE TO MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO COORDINATE WITH THE TOWN OF ALREADY VAIL REGARDING IMPLEMENTATION THROUGH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IMPACT FEES, WHATEVER WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE 30 SECOND FOR THAT

I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT I THE SECOND IN COMMENTS. >> HOW MUCH DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ACTUALLY IN JASPER COUNTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT

OF THAT TO SYDNEY IS BEAUFORT COUNTY. >> JASPER COUNTY DOESN'T REALLY START TILL FURTHER UP NOT IN THE ROOM. NO, THAT'S ALL THIS TOWN A HARDY BILL CALLED THE TOWN OF HARDY VILLAS THERE AT THE INTERSECTION AND ON THE THE HORNE PROPERTY THERE ON THE CORNER AND I THINK THEY GO UP 170 WAYS MAYBE TO ORIGIN AS

WELL OR MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THAT VICINITY. >> THE COMMENTS THOSE JUST TO THE THE LIGHT AT TIDE WATCH THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT HAND TURN SIGNAL BOTH GOING IN TO

SUN CITY AND INTO RIVERBEND. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT'D BE A FULL PROTECTED RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY A PROTECTED ONE WAY I BELIEVE RYAN IS THAT CORRECT?

AND THEN THIS WOULD BE A FULL PROTECTED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. >> THERE ARE NO LEFT HANDED OK ? THERE'S NO. YEAH.

SO NONE GET IN. YEAH. I BELIEVE THE LEFT TURNS ARE COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER. THE KEY YOU SEE AROUND TWO CARS BACK IS CORRECT IN THIS CHAIRMAN PAST MEANT THERE'D BE NO GEOMETRY CHANGE BUT THE SIG THE PROTECTED SIGNAL WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE TWO MOVEMENTS TO TO ACT AND MOVE FREELY

WITHOUT. >> RIGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE PROJECT SCHEDULE THAT COULD BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

WHERE WE TALK THE THEY COME AND WRITE ABOUT THAT. >> SO THEY'RE THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO BREAK OUT SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS THAT HAVE THE SIGNAL COMPONENT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE. WE'LL WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WITH OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS

GROUP BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY TRY TO BREAK COMPONENTS. >> OK.

>> LIKE WE CAN A COPY OF THE POWERPOINT. SURE.

JUST A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT MOTION WAS INVOLVED. >> I DON'T KNOW VOTE YET BUT I'LL ONLY MAKE ONE OR TWO COMMENTS LEADING UP TO THE VOTE.

I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT ON COMPLIMENTS TO JARED.

NOW WELL HE'S A MANAGED IT. YOU KNOW WE HAD A SECTION OF ROAD THAT WAS REALLY FAILING AND PROBABLY THE WORST ONE IN THE REGION. CRAIG GORDON WAS USEFUL IN TERMS OF SUGGESTING SOME PATHS FORWARD. KNOW WE GET A COME ON BOARD SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WITH THAT WITH THE DESIGN PIECE THE DEAL SEEMS TO FIT NICELY.

THEY MAY HAVE A RESURFACING AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION WHICH WOULD GET INCORPORATED AT THE SAME TIME AND HAVE SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND ONE CONSTRUCTION PIECE JASPER OF COURSE HAS COME ALONG AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE NOW BUT I KNOW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO HAD APPROVED AT FIRST READING THEIR CONTRIBUTION THE MILLION I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH YET RELATIVE TO THE MOTION THOUGH HARDY VALE MAYOR I SPOKE WITH HIM.

THEY'RE BASICALLY LOOKING FOR A PRESENTATION AT SOME POINT AND THEN THEY CAN CONCLUDE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO PUT I DON'T THINK IS ANY THOUGHT THAT THEY SHOULDN'T PUT SOMETHING IN AND A GOOD PART OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT I THINK IT'S IF WE HAVE SOME EXTRA BUCKS THERE BE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WORK ON. I THINK THE CONCEPT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT OF PULLING AHEAD THINGS AND LOOKING AT THE MEDIUM TERM MAKE MAKES A LOT

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OF SENSE. AND IF THERE'S SOME THINGS EVEN IN THE LONG TERM THAT MAKE SOME SENSE WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND GET A FEW MORE BUCKS. I THINK THAT'S WORTH DOING IT.

SO I COMPLIMENT THE STAFF ON HOW WELL THIS PIECE HAS BEEN MOVING ALONG.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT MOVES A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS ANY OBJECTION TO THE TO THE MOTION WHICH IS TO COORDINATE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WITH WITH HARDY VILLE ON THEIR PARTICIPATION. AND INVOLVEMENT AND IN MAKING SURE THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE INCORPORATED SO WE DON'T SPEND MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND.

>> I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS. SO THIS STANDS APPROVED AS OBJECTED AS A MOTION.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON 170 THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS TO OFFER YOU GO SIT FOR NOW. APPRECIATE IT.

>> RYAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. GREAT, GREAT REPORT.

YOUR SON LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING SOME GOOD PROGRESS. AND CARL FROM MY REPORT.

>> I'M TRYING FIRST TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AND A RECOMMENDATION ON MY REPORT BUT I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THE NEXT I ASSUME YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL WORK ON THAT RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN I THINK THE NEXT FOR

JOHN TOO. OKAY. >> YOU GET THE JOHN RIBAUT YOU

WITH US HERE? THANK GOOD. >> WELL, JOHN'S GOT FOUR ITEMS FOR US. I TOLD HIM EARLIER TODAY I WAS TALKING WITH ME.

HE HAD ONE MEETING NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

[Items 8 - 11]

[8. HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT – RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT 2021 (ARPA) (FISCAL IMPACT: INCOMING GRANT FUNDS - $1,995,069)]

[9. BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT – RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT 2021 (ARPA) (FISCAL IMPACT: INCOMING GRANT FUNDS - $32,000)]

[10. RECOMMENDATION OF FAA AIP CIP LIST APPROVAL – FY 2023-2027 FORECASTED PROJECT LIST]

[11. RECOMMENDATION OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT (HXD) AND BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT (ARW) HANGAR RENT INCREASE APPROVAL.]

I THOUGHT MAYBE WE HAD OFFENDED HIM BECAUSE NORMALLY THERE'S TWO OR THREE THINGS THAT EVERY MEETING. BUT HE HE ASSURED ME THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.

SO TELL US TELL US WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON, JOHN. WELL, I HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL ITEMS 8 THROUGH 11 IF YOU WOULD AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ALL THOSE THEN I'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THEM TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN PROBABLY DISCUSS THEM TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY.

I'LL DO MY BEST NOT TO DISAPPOINT AND BRING SOMETHING TO YOU EVERY MONTH.

>> THE FIRST ITEM IS THERE'S THERE'S ACTUALLY ITEMS FOR BOTH OF THE AIRPORTS AND THIS IS ANOTHER ROUND OF KIND OF FEDERAL COVERED RELIEF FUNDING FOR AIRPORTS AND THIS PART OF THE ARPA PROGRAM THAT CAME OUT EARLIER THIS YEAR. WE'RE NOTIFIED IN THE EARLY PART OF THE SUMMER THAT THIS MONEY WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE AND THEN MORE RECENTLY ASKED BY THE FAA TO GO AHEAD, MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR THESE FUNDS IF WE INTENDED TO PULL THOSE DOWN AND USE THEM. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE FAA IS JUST TRYING TO GET ALL THIS TOGETHER SO THEY CAN PLAN FOR THIS AND THERE. AND THEIR UPCOMING YEAR.

SO THE HILL ISLAND AIRPORT HAS HAD TWO SEPARATE CATEGORY OF RELIEF.

ONE IS FOR AIRPORT OPERATIONS IN THE U.S. AND I ASKED THAT THAT IS IS PRETTY STRICTLY GOVERNED. THE USE OF THAT THOSE FUNDS IS PRETTY STRICTLY GOVERNED BY PERSONNEL COSTS SANITIZATION AND JANITORIAL COSTS OPERATIONS.

IT'S MOST THINGS EXCEPT FOR AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY THE IDEA HERE IS TAKE YOU KNOW, PRESERVE JOBS, ENHANCE CLEANLINESS AND CUSTOMER SAFETY AND EXPERIENCE IN THE AIRPORTS. SO THAT'S THE FIRST CATEGORY OF THAT.

THE SECOND IS A CONCESSION CONCESSIONAIRE RELIEF AND THAT'S TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS JUST THE HARDSHIPS THAT COVERED PUT ON THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY AND THE ASSOCIATED BUSINESSES WHO WORK WITHIN THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY SPECIFIC WAY AT AIRPORTS.

SO YOU THINK OF RENTAL CARS, PARKING CONCESSIONS, RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO THERE'S SPECIFIC GUIDANCE ON HOW TO USE THAT FUNDING AS WELL.

SO BOTH OF THOSE CATEGORIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR HILTON ISLAND AIRPORT AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF YOU AND THEN VERY SIMILAR AT THE DIFFERENT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT ALTHOUGH A MUCH SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNT IS IS THIS A GRANT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR OPERATIONS PERSONNEL SAFETY, SANITIZATION AND THAT SORT OF THING SIMILAR TO AN ISLAND AIRPORT.

SO THE FIRST ITEM HERE IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE TWO GRANTS AND WHEN WE DO IT IT'S KIND OF A FORMALITY. WE DO HAVE TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS AND JUST GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BUT THAT THE UPON RECEIPT OF APPLICATION OF THOSE GRANT FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE AIRPORT. SO THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE LOOK FOR.

OKAY. WE'LL KEEP GOING AND WE'LL COME BACK AND VOTE.

OKAY. GREAT. THE SECOND LIST OF ITEMS THAT YOU'VE GOT FOR YOU ARE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE BRING FORWARD EVERY YEAR TO HAVE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT AND THESE ARE JUST YOU AND THE FAA IS PLANNING IT'S A FIVE YEAR LOOK HAD FOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AT BOTH AIRPORTS AND SO USUALLY THE FIRST TWO TO THREE YEARS ARE PRETTY SOLID AND THEN THE OUTLIER TWO YEARS OR A LITTLE BIT LESS SOLID BECAUSE THINGS DO CHANGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT THIS ALLOWS THE FAA START TO PROGRAM THOSE FUNDS FOR EACH OF THE AIRPORTS THAT IT DOES SUPPORT THE CAPITAL SIDE.

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SO WE'VE GOT THIS LIST PUT TOGETHER AND BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU AND KIND PART AND PARCEL OF APPROVING THE PROJECT LIST IS ALSO YOUR APPROVAL OF I DON'T WANT TO THROW IT HERE BUT IT'S A PRETTY APPLICATION RIGHT OF THE FORMAL APPLICATION FOR THE GRANTS AND THE WAY THE FAA WORKS AS A WE PRE APPLY USING THE APPLICATION FORM BUT WE PRE APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR OTHER THEY'RE OUT PLANNING OUT YOUR PLANNING FOR THE MONEY AND THEN WHEN THE BIDS ARE TAKEN BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL CONSTRUCTION RELATED ITEMS ONCE WE HAVE HARD BID NUMBERS THAT'S WHAT WE'LL MAKE FORMAL APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE GRANT FUNDS. BUT THE FAA NEEDS THE PRE APPLICATION AUDIT PROGRAM THOSE DOLLARS. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT SECOND ITEM IS FIVE FIVE YEARS WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT BOTH HERE NOW AN AIRPORT AND DUE FOR EXECUTIVE AIRPORT.

AND AS I MENTIONED IN THE RETREAT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THOSE ARE PRIMARILY RUNWAY RELATED PROJECTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TERMINAL PROJECT BEING THE FIRST ONE AT AN ISLAND AIRPORT FOR TWENTY THREE AND THIS IS REALLY AN UPDATE.

>> WE DO THIS ANNUALLY AS I REMEMBER AND YOU'LL BE FREE COORDINATING THIS WITH THE FAA

AS I REMEMBER. >> THAT'S CORRECT. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN AFTER WE SUBMIT THIS TO THE FAA THAT THEY MIGHT MAKE A MINOR TWEAK TO IT BUT IT'S TYPICALLY NOT A MAJOR ADJUSTMENT THAT THEY MAKE . OK.

SO THERE'S A LIST FOR EACH OF THE AIRPORTS AND THEN KEEPING WITH THE PATTERN HERE WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ITEM FOR BOTH AIRPORTS AND THAT'S AS A HANGAR RENT INCREASE IN BOTH AIRPORT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A COUPLE YEARS SO WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH IT'S ABOUT 5 PERCENT INCREASE. KIND OF RUN IT OFF TO THE NEAREST DOLLAR TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON OUR TENANTS. THEY'VE ASKED US NOT TO PUT PENNIES IN THERE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER FOR THEM. THEY ALSO WE HAVE NICE ROUND NUMBERS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FRONTIER HERE AT HILTON HEAD. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HANGARS BUT AT B4 EXECUTIVE WE'VE ONLY GOT THE TWO HANGARS WHICH IS A SMALLER HANGAR SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE AMOUNTS THERE. THEY'RE SMALL AMOUNTS BUT THAT HELPS WITH PROJECTS WE'VE GOT GOING ON RECENTLY REPLACED ALL THE LIGHTS IN THE DIFFERENT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGARS OR LCD FIXTURES. NOW I THINK ALL THE FOLKS WE HAVE IN THOSE HANGARS CERTAINLY ARE ENJOYING THAT. WE'VE GOT SIMILAR PROJECTS THERE LINED UP FOR THIS WINTER TIME AND EARLY SPRING HILL NOW AND THEREFORE WAS OPENED UP FOR DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR JOHN ON ANY OF THESE UP FOR I DON'T SEE YOU

WANT TO SPEAK TO SPEAK. >> BUT HE WANTS TO ADD ONE QUESTION, JOHN, FOR YOU AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PUSHING MORE MONEY IN SOME CASES INTO THINGS LIKE AIRPORTS.

IS THAT KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE FAA AS REGULAR OR IS THIS JUST MORE FUNDING THAT THEY RUN THROUGH THEIR REGULAR WICKETS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO AND CAN'T DO TO YOU KNOW THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE REASON THAT THESE RELIEF GRANTS THAT HAVE COME OUT ARE PRETTY MUCH DE FACTO EXCLUDED FROM BEING USED FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

THEY CAN BE KEPT SEPARATE NOW YOU CAN APPLY TO USE THEM AS AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE STEPS TO GO THROUGH WITH THE FAA STAFF TO COORDINATE THAT.

SO I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WITH THESE FUNDS THAT COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH DUTY TO THE FAA AS LONG AS THEY BASICALLY RESTRICT THE USE TO PERSONNEL OPERATIONS, CLEANING AND SANITIZATION RELATED ITEMS, THEY'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE NORMAL FUNDING LEVELS IN THOSE CAPITAL AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS PROGRAM. OK, ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY HAS?

>> IF NOT I'LL TAKE ITEMS 8 THROUGH 11 LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME OF FAQ MOTIONS

SECOND SEVEN OR SECONDS. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTION SAYING THESE FOUR

ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH ELEVEN ARE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> THANK YOU JOHN FOR ALL YOUR

[12. CONTRACT AWARD: RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD IFB #101121E, SUN CITY EMS/FIRE ON POPE AVENUE RENOVATIONS]

HARD WORK. APPRECIATE IT. NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 12 AND IT HAS TO DO WITH CONTRACT AWARD S STATION. YES SIR.

SO THIS IS THE THIRD PROJECT TAA CFP FOR E.M. S. STATIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR YEAR AND A

HALF. >> SO THE FIRST ONE WAS SHANKLIN.

THE SECOND ONE WAS RED BARN THAT WE JUST OPENED AND THEN THIS ONE IS OUTSIDE SUN CITY.

SO THIS IS THE EXISTING FIRE STATION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE UP FITTING IN A SIMILAR FORMAT AS WE DID AT THE RED BARN WITH A COST HERE WITH BLUFFTON TOWN FIRE DISTRICT.

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THIS AGAIN IS THE EXISTING STATION OUTSIDE THE GATES AT SUN CITY.

WE PUT THIS OUT TO BID. WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS ON ON THE PROJECT WE HAD WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT BIDDERS AND MADE SURE THERE WERE QUALIFIED. THE LOW BID WAS BRADLEY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES LLC OUT OF CHARLESTON WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND SO SO AGAIN AS MENTIONED THIS WOULD BE A CALL SHARE WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON BART TOWNSHIP FIRE DISTRICT FIFTY FIFTY. SO WITH A 10 PERCENT CONTINGENCY THAT WOULD PROVIDE A TOTAL BUDGET CONTRACT OF ONE MILLION THREE HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR DOLLARS WHICH OUR SHARE WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE 2017 GEO BOND.

>> SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE APPROVED THE CONTRACT AND GRANT CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FOR THE IFB IS LISTED DISCUSSION QUESTIONS MOTION SOME CHAIRMAN I'LL SECOND MAKE

YOUR WORK IN THE HOUSE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THIS IS THE THIRD OF THREE OF THESE THEY WERE DONE RIGHT I THINK I THINK PHIL GOT MORE SCHEMED LATER BUT THIS IS THE

THREE THAT HE HAD ON THE LIST. >> OKAY. JUST QUICKLY, SIR, THE LOCATION THIS IS WHERE THIS IS A C WE LOST SOME I HELPED ME OUT WITH THE RESTAURANT THE POPULAR RESTAURANT O L L L L SAY L HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ALE HOUSE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE

GATE NEAR THE FOOD LINE. >> OKAY BECAUSE IT HAS A FIRE STATION THERE NOW I THINK.

>> YEAH. SO IT'S A FIRE STATION WE'LL BE UP FITTING IT AND ADDING ON SOME STORAGE AND SOME BUNK ROOMS AND THEN OUTFITTING IT WITH SOME A MESS AND THEN MORE

FIRE SO IT'LL BE A DUAL PURPOSE STATION ITSELF. >> APPRECIATE IT.

I NEED YOU TO HELP ME MORE OFTEN BLOW THIS BLUFFTON THANK YOU, JONAS.

>> NO, IF IF IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT I FORGOT TO MENTION YOU TALKED ABOUT 170 HE'S OUR QUALITY ENGINEER ON THIS THING THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE AND OUTSIDE AND INSIDE JONAS IT'S LIKE DURING ONE 170 LET US KNOW IF WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT STUFF SINCE HE LIVES RIGHT IN THE

MIDDLE OF IT. >> I COULDN'T GET OFF OF NEWT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT IS THE

OKATIE HOUSE THAT'S ITS NEXT DOOR. >> THERE IS WALL THERE.

ITS NEXT DOOR TO THE BANK ACROSS THE STREET FROM ANOTHER BANK AND IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE SUN CITY OPENED. SO IT'S WELL OVER 20 YEARS OLD OAK EMOTION ABOUT ANY OBJECTION TO PROCEEDING WITH THIS CONTRACT FOR ROUGHLY A MILLION THREE TO BE SPLIT WITH THE BLUFFTON FIRE COMMISSION I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS THAT STANDS APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.

[13. RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD FOR RFQ 092021E CONSULTING SERVICES FOR CONVERSION TO ELECTRIC FLEET & COMMUNITY READINESS ($269,509)]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS ONE FOR CONSULTING SERVICES ON ELECTRIC FLEET.

WE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT OUR RETREAT AND THERE'S KIND OF TWO THOUGHTS ON THIS.

LET ME LET ME KIND OF PUT IT FORWARD AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.

ONE IS SOME OF THE MONEYS THAT ARE COMING DOWN FROM ON HIGH INCLUDE POTENTIALLY ELECTRIC FLEETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE THERE NEEDS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE LIKE GETTING THROUGH THE CIB OR THROUGH THAT WHENEVER THEY RUN THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL SILOS ARE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

THE OTHER SIDE OF SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WAS IT SEEMED LIKE AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND AND COULD WE DO IT FOR LESS? COULD WE DO IT OUR OURSELF IN-HOUSE? SO WE JUST OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND MAYBE BOTH YOU AND ERIC HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON

WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED ON THIS. >> I'LL OFFER UP A LITTLE BIT TO START WITH AND THEN WE HAVE NEIL NEIL DECI. HE'S BEEN LEADING THIS CHARGE FOR US IN HOW WORKS OF OUR FLEET AND THEN ALSO ONLINE IS OUR CONSULTANT.

WE DON'T TYPICALLY BRING THE CONSULTANT TO THE COMMITTEE LEVEL MEETING BUT THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE AGAIN THIS WE STARTED DIP IN OUR TOE IN THIS DURING THE SUMMER KNOWING THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF BEING PROGRAMED THE UPCOMING INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS JUST APPROVED COUNTYWIDE. SO WE KNEW SOMETHING THAT WAS OUT THERE.

WE LOOKED AT IT REAL BRIEFLY, WEREN'T SURE THAT IT WAS IN ANY OF OUR WHEELHOUSE AS SO THAT'S

THE REASON WE WENT OUT TO BID AND JUST A REFERENCE POINT. >> SIMILARLY LIGHT ROAD PROJECTS AND YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A FUNDING A LOT OF TIME WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILLS AND STUFF LIKE THIS PASS THEY'RE NOT ALL THE TIMES BRAND NEW SOURCES OF FUNDS.

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A LOT OF TIMES THIS BASICALLY GOES THROUGH THE EXISTING ARTERIES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. SO FOR ROADWAY DOLLARS SAY INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD THERE'S MORE ROADWAY DOLLARS THERE USED TO BE THE MECHANISMS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AT A STATE LEVEL AT THE DUTIES OF ALL 50 STATES TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDINGS THEY JUST SEND MORE THROUGH THOSE CHANNELS SO I DID SOME RESEARCH AND LOOKING INTO IT MORE FULLY BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING SIMILAR TO THAT FOR SOME OF THESE ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND OTHER SOURCE FUNDINGS THERE IS A CONGESTION MITIGATION AIR QUALITY SOURCE OF CHANNEL THAT RUNS THROUGH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND DOES THE DUTIES AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS FUNDING I THINK IS

FILTERED THROUGH. >> SO IN ORDER TO RAISE YOUR HAND FOR FEDERAL FUNDING LIKE WE HAVE ON OUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECT YOU'VE GOT TO SET UP A PLAN, AN ATTACK AND A PROJECT PUT THAT THROUGH GLASS AND ON THE TIP AND THEN FROM THE TIP TO THE STATE WHICH IS THE STEP WHICH IS THE PLAN AND THEN YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND FOR FEDERAL ON IT.

SO JUST THAT'S KIND OF OVERALL BACKGROUND. SO HAVING A PLAN SEEMS LIKE A PRUDENT APPROACH. BUT NEAL, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ANY MORE DETAIL TO THAT, THAT'S

KIND OF MY TWO CENTS WORTH ONLY BEING GEARED. >> DAD , IS THAT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT RECENTLY WAS JUST ADOPTED THIS IS IN LINE THIS OR THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO INLINE WITH WITH WHAT THE COMPLAINTS IS ABOUT PARTICULARLY REDUCTION IN THE CARBON EMISSIONS PLACE FOR A HEALTHY PLACE YOU FOR COUNTY OF BEING A HEALTHY PLACE FOR IT TO LIVE AND SO IT'S KIND OF IN TUNE WITH THAT AND THEY JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE

ADDED THAT FOR THE CHAIRMAN AND THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SAY SO IF YOU ALL APPROVED THIS TODAY, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE IT WITH THE STIPULATION OF AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH US RECOMMENDING THAT WE SPEND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO JUST TO STUDY ELECTRIC VEHICLE FLEET.

>> I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY GET THAT DONE FOR A LOT CHEAPER AMOUNT SOMEWHERE.

>> I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THAT BUT. SO WE NEITHER WE EITHER NEED TO SCALE BACK THE SCOPE OF THIS DRASTICALLY TO GET IT DOWN INTO A MORE REASONABLE APPROACH OR WE NEED TO NOT APPROVE THIS. SO I'M KIND OF DANCING ON YOU. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL BUT TO OUR SIX NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR US TO STUDY WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO GO INTO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE OR OUT IS IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE DID WE DIDN'T PAY MUCH MORE THAN THAT FOR COMPREHENSIVE COUNTY WIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN .

>> SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER RULED YOU KNOW, I ABSOLUTELY TAKE ERIC'S ADVICE

TO HEART. >> I MEAN I'M I'M COMPLETELY IN LINE WITH THAT.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR WHAT REALLY COULD BE A MONTH'S WORTH OF WORK FOR A HALFWAY DECENT DECENT ECONOMIST OR EVEN ACCOUNTANT THAT COULD HANDLE

THAT. >> SO I'M GOING TO SAY NO, I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN FOR HOW THIS MONEY WILL BE ,HOW WE'LL RAISE OUR HAND FOR THIS MONEY, HOW WE'LL GET IN LINE, ETC. WE NEED TO HAVE AN OUTLINE OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO BUT A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PLAN RIGHT NOW TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF IT JUST REALLY AN APPROPRIATE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR SHOP AROUND, FIND OUT WHAT OTHER LIKELY REVENUE RECIPIENTS FROM THIS THIS POOL OF MONEY WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND KIND OF FOLLOW ALONG. FIND OUT WHO'S WHO'S DOING THE LEGWORK ON IT, WHAT KIND OF CONSULTANT THEY'RE TAKING BRINGING ONBOARD BOARD AT TO HANDLE IT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE AND DEDICATE NO SOURCE OF FUNDING UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE. MR. CHAIRMAN, BEN COMMENT I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TO BID ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT THIS

AMOUNT. >> AND I DO AGREE WITH BRIAN. I THINK IT'S A LOT OF MONEY BUT TO ME THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WINS ITSELF A REGIONAL APPROACH OR EVEN OTHER LARGE COUNTIES SIMILAR TO US IF WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY TOO BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT TO LET BECAUSE THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A REGIONAL POINT OF VIEW AND IF WE COULD FIND ANOTHER WILLING PARTY TO GO IN WITH US ON IT, IT MIGHT HELP

[00:45:01]

WITH THE COSTS WHEN THEY COME. BUT I THINK THIS TIME YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT NOT JUST AS P4 COUNTY'S VEHICLES BUT OTHERS TOO. ALL GOOD COMMENTS, MIKE.

MY SENSE IS THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD NOT TAKE ACTION TODAY AND JUST LEAVE IT WITH STAFF TO COME BACK IN DUE COURSE AND THERE SOME REAL TIME PRESSING THING ON THIS WHICH I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO SELF UNLESS THERE IS OBJECTION WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT WITH STAFF FOR

THE TIME BEING ALTHOUGH OBJECT TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> I AGREE WITH YOU.

I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN HERE. I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF MOVING TOWARD LATTE VEHICLES. AND SO I LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME TYPE OF LOOPHOLES AND JUST LIKE MRS. HOLLAND SAID. SO I JUST WANT TO READ. I AM VERY MUCH SUPPORT.

ON MONDAY I MIGHT REITERATE IS IS THE SIMILAR TO TRANSPORTATION PROJECT I SAID I JUST KIND OF OUTLINED HOW IT IS GOING TO FUNNEL THROUGH TRANSPORTATION LIKELY YOU GOT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PLAN IN ORDER TO SAY HEY, YOUR SHOVEL READY?

>> WELL THERE'S THIS SIZE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BE DETERMINED.

WILL GO BACK AND WORK ON THAT STAFF LEVEL. BUT FROM POSITIONING OURSELVES TO ATTRACT FEDERAL FUNDING, WHETHER IT'S AS A COUNTY OR AS A REGION, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE. AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER WAYS AND METHODS OR OUR PARTNERS THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO TO FACILITATE THAT. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR GOAL IS F IS TO GET TO A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WE CAN FILTER THROUGH THIS LESS AND THE LONG RANGE PLAN UP THROUGH THE STATE SO WE CAN RAISE OUR HAND FOR FEDERAL

FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. >> I THINK ALEX MAKES A VERY INTERESTING POINT ABOUT WHETHER WE WOULD DO SOMETHING WITH WITHIN THE REGION BECAUSE SOME OF OUR SISTER COUNTIES MAY NOT BE IN A POSITION TO DO SO. IT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US. AND THAT'S A VALID POINT.

[14. RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD RFQ#083021E ON-CALL TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS]

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS HAS SOME ON CALL TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS AND YOU REMEMBER JARRETT TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS WAS ONE OF A COUPLE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT YOU WERE PROPOSING TO POSITION OURSELVES

TO TELL US ABOUT IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. SO AS TALK ABOUT IN TREAT, OUR GOAL IS TO POSITION OURSELVES FOR THE UPCOMING TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AND WE HAVE A VERY LEAN STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS HELP US EXPERT CONSULTANTS ON PACIFIC.

WE THOUGHT ABOUT FOR TRANSPORTATION BEING SEPARATE FROM TRAFFIC AS WELL AS RIDE AWAY AND ALL OF THOSE ARE SPECIALTIES INSIDE OF THE UMBRELLA OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE'RE ALSO CONCURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROGRAM MANAGER TO HELP US FORWARD AT LARGE BUT WE GOT THIS ONE OUT SOONER THAN THE REST OF THEM IS ON CALL SPECIFIC FOR TRAFFIC.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT WE USE SPORADIC THROUGHOUT ON OUR SMALL ANY CONTRACT LIST.

BUT THIS WILL GIVE US A KIND OF A MORE OPEN CAPABILITY FOR IN THIS SITUATION.

THREE QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS SO WE PUT OUT A SOLICITATION IN JULY.

WE HAD ELEVEN SUBMISSIONS. WE HAD A EVALUATION TEAM INTERNAL TO STAFF WHERE WE EVALUATED THOSE AND WE SELECTED THREE BEING THE MOST QUALIFIED. AND THAT IS BEALL ENGINEERING, KIMBERLY HORN AND STAN. SO OUT OF THE ELEVEN THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT WE SELECTED WE WOULD PROPOSE AND THEN AGAIN THIS IS ON COST DATA. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AWARDING CONTRACT VALUE. WE WOULD FOLLOW THE PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES AS LAID OUT DEPENDING ON ON THOSE THRESHOLDS THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER IN THE FINANCE MEETING.

BUT THEN WE WOULD USE SOURCES OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDINGS EITHER ALREADY USE.

THESE ARE GADDAFI FUNDS, SALES TAX OR ANY FUTURE GRANT FUNDS TO FUND THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS DEPENDING ON WHAT PROJECT IT IS WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND BASED OFF THE THRESHOLD OF THE CONTRACT WE WOULD BRING THEM THROUGH COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL AS APPROPRIATE. SO THIS WOULD JUST BE THE STAFF RECOMMENDS AWARDED TO THESE THREE TO HAVE A MASTER AGREEMENT AND THEN WE WOULD AWARD CONTRACTS OUR WORK ORDERS

TO EACH CONSULTANT HAS THE PROJECTS ARE DEFINED. >> QUESTION DO WE NEED A RESOLUTION FOR THIS OR IS COMMITTEE MOTION OKATIE YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THAT RESOLUTION? MOTION WOULD BE FINE. OK.

MR. CHAIRMAN I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THIS. OK, GOOD.

SO A SECOND SECONDED FROM THE ARC FURTHER DISCUSSION. ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING ON THESE

[15. IDENTIFYING FUNDING SOURCE FOR GRAVES ROAD AND PRIMARY PARK ACCESS ROAD]

STANDS APPROVED AS A MOTION? OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 15.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FUNDING OF GRAVES ROAD AND IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY WHEN WE DID THE AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PART OF THAT WAS A PAYMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE TO THEM WITH SOME MILESTONES. AND ONE OF OUR FUNDING SOURCES

[00:50:04]

MAY HAVE CHANGED. AND SO TELL US ABOUT THAT. WELL, YEAH.

>> SO ESSENTIALLY IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN OBLIGATED US TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO GRAVES ROAD AND BUILD THE PARK ACCESS ROAD WHICH IS FURTHER DOWN GRAVES ROAD AND GOING IN TO THE PARK ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE PEPPER HALL DEVELOPMENT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DESIGNATED BEFORE WE HAD THE USER FEE ISSUE FOR THE FOR WHAT WE CALL THE TAG V HAD DESIGNATED TAG FEE AS THE FUNDING SOURCE TO DO THE IMPROVED MUCH FOR GRAVES ROAD AND EXCUSE ME AND THE

CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK ACCESS PREMIER PARK ACCESS ROAD. >> SO I WANT TO DO DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL GIVEN THE SITUATION WHERE WE ARE WITH THE LITIGATION IN THE STATE ON THE ROAD USER FEE AND THE LITIGATION THAT WE'RE NOW INVOLVED IN IF WHETHER OR NOT

COUNT. >> SO WE WANTED TO TAKE THAT MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FROM FUND BALANCE AND THAT WOULD FREE UP ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE TAG FEE FOR US TO ALLOCATE TO THE CTC FEE FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON ON COUNTY ROADS IF GIVEN THE REDUCTION IN THE

TAG FEE THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. >> MOST OF THE MONEY A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE MONEY WOULD GO TO THE IMPROVEMENT GRADE ACCRUED AND THAT WOULD LEAVE VERY LITTLE LEFT OVER FOR YOU ALL FOR THE CDC TO HAVE.

>> SO WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE MONEY IN THE FUND BALANCE TO COVER THAT IF YOU ALL WANTED TO REALLOCATE OR YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE MONEY FROM THE FUND BALANCE TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS GENTLEMAN COVERED FROM TAG FEE YOU WANT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. YES. OKAY SO WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PAY IT'S JUST A MATTER WHAT SOURCE IT'S COMING FOR US. BUT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT GIVEN WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THE TAG FEES IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO CONSIDER USING AVAILABLE

GENERAL FUNDS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME JUST ASK THIS SIMPLE QUESTION.

IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE AGREED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR CONDITION IN THE AGREEMENT. NO CONDITION. SO WE WE ARE OBLIGATED TO DO SOMETHING. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO I'D RATHER NOT COME OUT WITH THE TAG FUND SO IT FREES UP MORE MONEY FOR THE CDC TO USE. SO I'D I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THIS EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T FIBER OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH GRAVES. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER CHOICE. DON'T PUT THAT IN A FORM OF EMOTION. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR ERIC? I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S AN OBLIGATION WE HAVE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FUNDS FROM AND THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH, TO DO THAT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. I'LL MAKE IT A MOTION.

OKAY. BRIAN MAKES IT EMOTIONAL SECOND.

MARK SECONDS IT AS THEIR FURTHER DISCUSSION STATEMENT IS QUICKLY TURNING IF WE DON'T FUND IS OBLIGATION WE WE SUBMIT TO A LAWSUIT. RIGHT I WAS GOING TO SAY AT THAT POINT WE'RE EXPOSED AND WE NEED TO DO THAT. IT'S THE MONEY WE'VE OBLIGATED WE'RE GOING TO SPEND. WE DON'T WANT. WE DON'T WANT TO NOW PAY IT.

>> AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING INVOICES ALREADY BECAUSE OF THE MILESTONE.

>> WE WE'RE WE'VE GOT THE INVOICES IN THE HAND. THAT'S REASON WHY I HAVE THIS

ON THE AGENDA. >> OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION START AND THE SPORTS FUND IS GENERAL FUND RIGHT SOURCE TO BE THE

GENERAL FUND. >> THANK YOU. OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS NOT SEE AN OBJECTION AS FANCY AS VETTED AND RECOMMENDED BY

[16. SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND CITY OF BEAUFORT FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AWARD TO DEPOT ROAD PATHWAY PROJECT]

THE ADMINISTRATOR? >> NEXT ITEM IS A AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY

OF BEAUFORT FOR BLOCK GRANT AWARD ON DEPO ROAD. >> YES.

SO DEEPER ROAD IS ONE OF THE 24 PATHWAYS ON THE SALES TAX PROGRAM 20 18 SALES TAX PROGRAM. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF BEAUFORT ALSO SHOWED UP IN THEIR CERP PROGRAM. THEY SUBMITTED A C.D. BJP BUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FOR TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THAT AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED THAT GRANT HOWEVER BECAUSE IT'S THE PROJECT AND OUR COORDINATION.

WE'RE ACTUALLY ADMINISTERING THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE ENGINEERING AND THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE ACQUISITION RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION.

SO IN ORDER TO ADMINISTER THAT DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE REQUIRES A SON A SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT . SO BASICALLY THE MONEY THROUGH FUNNEL THROUGH THE CITY OF BEAUFORT INTO US AND WE HAVE TO SIGN THIS IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. SO THIS WOULD BE AN APPROVAL TO ENTER INTO THAT RECIPIENT

[00:55:05]

AGREEMENT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE EMOTIONAL IS MOTION IS SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THE ROUTING OF WHICH SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT SIDEWALK GOES ON THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE COUNTY.

>> SO WE ARE I HAVE PLANETARY DESIGN. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HELD THE PUBLIC MEETING YET BUT IT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO THERE'S A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AT LEAST A PORTION IF NOT ALL OF THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO THIS WOULD BE A 10 FOOT PATHWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND REMAIN THE SIDEWALK ON THE

NORTH NORTH WOULD REMAIN. >> THAT WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS PRIMARILY WOODS WILL WILL GO AT LEAST BEGIN THE THE ATTACHMENT OR THE SPANISH SMALL STREAM.

YEAH. >> SO THE CITY BEFORE HIS LONG TERM PLAN IS THAT THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL WILL CONNECT THE DOWNTOWN. SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST PHASE. SO IT MARRIES UP WITH BOTH OF OUR PLANS.

IT WAS ON SALES TAX AS WELL AS THEIR PLAN. SO IT WAS A GOOD JOINT PROJECT OR IS A GOOD JOINT PROJECT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF US FACILITATING WHEN WE COME IN ON THE PATHWAYS IT'S RELATED. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SALES TAX FOR THE REFERENDUM COMES OFF AT THE END OF THE QUARTER WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT IN OVER ANOTHER 10 15 MILLION IT SOUNDS LIKE BEFORE WE'RE FINISHED AND MONEY HAS TO BE USED FOR ONE OF THE THREE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE REFERENDUM AND I THINK A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THAT POTENTIALLY GOING BACK AND DOING SOME OF THE TRAILS THAT WERE ON THE ORIGINAL REFERENDUM THAT WE HAD MORE THAN THAN WE

COULD AFFORD. >> MIGHT BE A GOOD USE OF THAT. NOW WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL JANUARY FEBRUARY EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT. BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO COME BACK AND SAY HEY LISTEN, LET'S AT LEAST GET ON WITH THE ENGINEERING OF THE LA PAZ AND ALSO WE DON'T LOSE A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THIS CAN BE DIFFICULT TO PASS ANOTHER REFERENDUM IF WE HAVE SOME ITEMS ON A PRIOR REFERENDUM THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED. RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT.

MY RECOLLECTION IS WE APPROVED MILLION DOLLARS OF FUNDING FOR SIDEWALKS IN THE LIST WAS WELL OVER 20 MILLION LIKE 20 OR AND YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN BEYOND OUR WILDEST EXPECTATION I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET AN EXTRA 10 MILLION DOLLARS PLUS OUT OF THE SALES THAT WE MIGHT

COLLECT AN EXTRA 2 OR 3 MILLION AT THE MOST. >> BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE NEED TO ATTACK THESE IN PRIORITY AND GET THEM FINISHED.

THAT IS OF ABSOLUTE PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE THAT WE GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO I THINK THAT HEADS UP FOR YOU ALL AS THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.

>> I THINK COUNCIL WOULD PROBABLY WELCOME YOU COMING BACK AND NOT WAITING TOO LONG ON WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO ENGINEERING ACQUISITION AND WILL WILL DEFINITELY FACILITATE

THAT. >> OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT ON THE PATHWAYS HAS A CONTRACT. AND WE'RE ALREADY AT THAT VALUE AS FAR AS WHAT PROGRAM SO WE'LL NEED TO COME BACK IN ORDER TO RAISE THEIR VALUE ANYHOW SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN PROCESS AND AT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE I GUESS IT WOULD BE WE DON'T HAVE DECEMBER MEANS THAT BY JANUARY AT THAT TIME WE'D HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE DON'T GET OUR STATEMENT UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST THE FULL COLLECTION. BUT I THINK WE'LL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE EXTRA. OKAY.

SO HAS ANY OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION? NOT SEEING ANY OF THIS STANDS APPROVED AS AS DISCUSSED. THE NEXT ITEM HAS TO DO WITH THE NEXT ONE.

>> CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD GET A CLARIFYING QUESTION, JERRY. ABSOLUTELY.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JARED COMING BACK TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY FOR A CONSULTANT NOT A SINGLE MILE. NOT A SINGLE QUARTER MILE OF SIDEWALK HAS BEEN BUILT.

WHY ARE WE SO FAR OUT OF LINE WITH OUR CONSULTANT? WHY HASN'T MORE BEEN BUILT?

WHY HASN'T ANYTHING BEEN BUILT ? >> THE SHORT ANSWER IS THAT THESE PROJECTS EVEN THOUGH THEY SEEM SIMPLE LIKE THE PATHWAY OR SIDEWALK THEY'RE JUST AS COMPLEX AS A REGULAR ROAD PROJECT. SO WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE CHANNELS ALL THE SURVEY, ALL THE ACQUISITION, ALL THE PERMITTING JUST AS IF WE WERE

GOING TO WIDEN BOUNDARY STREET. >> I MEAN SOME HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE LESS PROPERTY ACQUISITION BUT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME PROCESS WHETHER IT'S A 700 FOOT PATHWAY OR TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED FOOT PATHWAY. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THOSE ON EACH OF THE PROJECTS. WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT ARE GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO BID EITHER AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR FIRST OF NEXT YEAR AND THEY ARE WHICH ONES?

[01:00:02]

BLUFFTON PARKWAY. >> BRITTANY, YOU CAN HELP ME OUT HERE AND WORK POPULATE AND RIBAUT ROAD SIDEWALK EXTENSION OR WAR PLAN TO LET IT WORK CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING 20 22 AND THOSE AND ROAD IS NOT IT'S NOT IN THAT SALEM ROAD IS CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH SOME

DESIGN ISSUES AND COMMUNICATING BACK AND FORTH SPDR T. >> ONCE WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN ANOTHER PART OF WHY WE ARE HAVING SOME DELAYS IT'S ALSO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERIODS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING TO CURB SIDEWALKS AND WE HAVE DONE MORE THAN TWO.

THAT IS ANOTHER FACTOR OF SOME OF THE DELAYS BUT YOUR WORD IS IN DESIGN.

[17. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF PROPERTIES ENCUMBERING THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY FOR KLINE CIRCLE]

>> THANK YOU. OK. NEXT ITEM HAS TO DO WITH THE

ACCEPTANCE OF A RIGHT AWAY FOR CLIENTS CIRCLE. >> YES.

YES. SO THIS I THINK WE'VE HAD ONE ON EVERY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR THE LAST MONTH OR SO. BUT BASICALLY THIS IS THE LEGACY ROAD OFF OF KING'S NECK ROAD IN SHELTON AREA. SEVENTEEN HUNDRED FEET. AND WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO PERFECT RIGHT AWAY WHEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. SO THE RESIDENTS THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATE WITH THIS ROAD HAVE REQUESTED TO DONATE RIGHT AWAY TO THE COUNTY.

THIS PROJECT OR THIS ROAD IS NOT CURRENTLY ON OUR DIRT ROAD PAVING PROJECT LIST AT THE MOMENT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S WORTHWHILE AND THERE'S WILLING OWNERS TO DONATE THAT PROPERTY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GRAB THAT SO WE CAN IF WE WANT TO DO IMPROVEMENTS LATER WE HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF US. SO THAT'S THE REQUEST IS THAT WE ACCEPT THE RIGHT AWAY. THIS AGAIN IS A LEGACY ROAD THAT WE OWN IN MAINE ARE WE MAINTAIN. AND THIS WOULD BE PERFECT IN THAT RIGHT AWAY.

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, SARASOTA. >> JARROD. JARROD.

YEAH, I WOULD. I WOULD SAY TO ALL OF THOSE. BEFORE I CAME CONSOLE THIS ROAD WAS DESIGNATED TO SUGGESTED TO BE PAID BUT THERE SOME DISAGREEMENTS AND DISPUTE BETWEEN THE FAMILY AND MEMBERS. AND SO RIGHT AWAY ISSUE ARE RIGHT AWAY.

DONATION WAS AN ISSUE. AND SO JARED, WE THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE FAMILY MEMBERS TO GET THIS UP AND GOING AGAIN AND SO AS IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE FOLKS ON THAT ROAD HAVE. ANTICIPATED AND SHE DIED FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW AND SO.

SO TO GET IT TO THIS POINT IS IS TRULY A MILESTONE. SO I WOULD MOVE TO PROVE THAT WE ACCEPT THESE ON THIS CONTRACT FOR ALL THE RIGHT ACQUISITIONS.

>> SECOND WAY MARKET. SECONDLY MAY HAVE DOUBLE UP THERE.

BUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE SAYING THAT THIS

[Items 18 & 19]

[18. PATHWAYS PROJECT VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING SUMMARY – STUART POINT ROAD PATHWAY]

[19. PATHWAYS PROJECT PUBLIC MEETING SUMMARY – ALLJOY ROAD SIDEWALK]

SANDS APPROVED NEXT TO HER 18 AND 19 BY DATE THOSE TOGETHER. CURRENTLY PUBLIC MEETINGS ON

TWO OF THE PATHWAYS SIDEWAYS SIDEWALKS. >> AND AS YOU CAN GUESS, BRITTANY FIELDS, SHE'S BEEN ASKED HER ANSWER JUST NOW AND THE OTHER PATHWAY SHE'S BEEN FRONT AND CENTER ON THE PATHWAYS. BRITTANY, IF YOU WANT TO TALK THIS THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE AND THEN YOU BRING HIM BACK AS CHAIRMAN FROM WHATEVER IS

NEEDED FROM THERE. NOT A PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU.

SO ASK FOR A RESOLUTION TO 24. WE MUST CONDUCT AT LEAST TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS. THE FIRST PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE 14 RECOMMENDED WAS HELD VIRTUALLY IN THE FALL OF 2012. WE THEN HELD A SECOND PUBLIC MEETING FOR STUART WHITE ON OCTOBER 5TH BRINGING THAT FACE TO FACE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN HELD A TWO WEEK COMMENT PERIOD OR BEEN ON UNTIL OCTOBER 20TH. ON THIS PROJECT WE HAVE RECEIVED 44 OVERALL COMMENTS FOR THE PROJECT IN ITSELF AS IT'S PROPOSED EIGHT FOOT WIDE SHARED HIS PATH ALONG THE ROADWAY WITH A FIVE FOOT BUFFER AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. AS THE RECOMMENDATION WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH A FIVE FOOT SHARED PATH A FIVE I'M SORRY EIGHT.

BUT CHARITIES HAVE FIVE FOOT GRASS BUFFER ALONG THE ROADWAY AND WE ARE HOLDING ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF THAT DECISION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR POINT ? NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS.

BRITTANY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY TOMORROW NIGHT AND GOD.

I REVIEWED THE SURVEY RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND AS YOU SAID, THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS.

AND IN APPROVAL OF A FOOT SIDEWALK SMALL WE JUST GET BACK WITH THE MORE I SHARE THE

[01:05:07]

RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND AND HOPEFULLY THERE ARE NO HICCUPS OR CHANGES TO BE MADE.

BUT THAT WILL GIVE US ACCESS TO GO AHEAD AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PATHWAY.

>> WE ALREADY HAVE SURVEY DONE TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY WILL BECOME OUR DESIGN. I WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT WHEN I SEE THE SECOND ONE IS

FOR ALL JOY ROAD. >> ONCE AGAIN WE HELD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS PRIOR TO THIS TO PUBLIC MEETINGS. ONE WAS ON SEPTEMBER 14TH. ONE WAS ON OCTOBER 28.

WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THEIR PREFERENCES FOR THE PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATION AND OVERALL CONSENSUS OF THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THEY WOULD PREFER A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK WHICH WE WILL BE USING A FIVE FOOT GRASSED BUFFER ON THE EDGE PAVEMENT SHOD TO BARTER ROAD. WE DO HAVE A WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD A RECOMMENDED PLAN FOR OUR CHURCH DESIGN TEAM IN JANUARY SO WE WILL THEN DESIGN BERKSHIRE DRAB TO CONNECT TO

ALL GOVERNANCE QUESTIONS. >> GET TO MY OFFICE. >> THIS IS MY DISTRICT, RICHARD SAID TWO WE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL AS WE HAVE FOUR TOTAL MEETINGS THAT WE HAD AND YOU WOULD THINK WELL GEE WHY WOULD SOMEONE NOT WANT A SIDEWALK? AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DIDN'T WANT THEIR COMMUNITY TO CHANGE THAT WAS TAKING DOWN TREES THAT IT WAS TAKING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY ,YOU KNOW. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT AND AGAINST STAFF WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DID A GREAT JOB OF DESIGNING A A A MACK DADDY SIDEWALK TO DOWN THROUGH THEIR AND AFTER THOSE FOUR MEETINGS AND LISTENING TO PEOPLE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE STILL SWAYED AGAINST IT. BUT AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING SAFETY DOWN THEIR AS. AS WE MOVE FORWARD NOW ONE THING BRITNEY IT DOES CROSSOVER

AND GOES DOWN TO THOMAS LOTT. >> I THINK YOU SEE THIS STOP THE SHAD BUT IT'S NOT SO HOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LAKE. OSCAR. I'LL JOIN BRAD AND THEN MOVE

DOWN TO TOM COTTON ON THE SOUTH SIDE. >> GOOD.

SO AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ALL WERE IN FAVOR OF IT OR IF THEY SAID THEY WERE IN FAVOR IF WE COULD TAKE CARE OF SOME ISSUES IN AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE THAT SIX SIDEWALK THAT IS LESS THAN WITH THEY'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WEAVE IT DOWN THROUGH THE TREES ON THE NON RIVERSIDE. SO WE TAKE OUT AS FEW TREES AS POSSIBLE BUT AGAIN ADDING THE SAFETY THAT WE'VE GOT AND THEN ALSO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TYING IT INTO THE BURKE CHURCH AND THEN BLUFFTON WALKWAYS AS WELL .

SO I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF ON A GREAT JOB AND ACTUALLY LISTENING TO PEOPLE AND MAKING

CHANGES. SO THANK YOU. >> YOU FEEL WE'RE GENERALLY OKAY TO GO AHEAD WITH THE DESIGN? YES, MAYBE A FEW NAYSAYERS.

EXACTLY. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION. I DON'T THINK I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ACTION PREVIOUSLY ON OTHERS JUST BASICALLY COME BACK AND INFORM YOU GUYS WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND THEN WE APPRECIATE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COUNCILMAN LAWSON AND THEN COUNCILMAN DAWSON. >> COUNCILMAN GLOVER, WE'RE COMING AT YOU WITH A MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THEN COUNCILMAN FLOYD AND WE'LL COME IN THAT YOU SALEM ROAD. SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND HELPING COORDINATE WITH THE COMMUNITIES. SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE WHEN WE DO DEEPER DEEPER RUBY COME IN TO

IT AS WELL. >> SO AGAIN THE ONE ON ONE VIRTUAL MEETING WOULD QUALIFY

[21. DISCUSSION OF 2022 COMMITTEE OBJECTIVES]

AS THE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THIS SECOND SECOND ONE HERE SHORTLY.

[20. DISCUSSION OF RETREAT TOPICS]

>> OK, PUT ON THE AGENDA JUST TO CATCH UP ON THE RETREAT TROPICS TOPICS.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAD A GREAT RETREAT. I THOUGHT ABOUT JOURNALIST CREW DID DID A GREAT JOB AND IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THEM AND I GUESS MY THOUGHT PROCESS RUNS TO ME I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BUT IF THERE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR GET ANOTHER NOD, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I JUST KIND OF PULL THE SLIDES FROM THIS.

>> WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO THROUGH THEM AND MAYBE IF YOU GET TO THE FIRST SLIDE OR THE SECOND SLIDE THERE AND I CAN TALK THROUGH BUT BASICALLY AIRPORTS WHERE ALL I THINK MOVING FORWARD ON THE ON THE TERMINAL ZONE AND JOHN MENTIONED THE CFP THE THREE OR FIVE YEAR CFP, THREE YEAR CFP AT HILTON HEAD EVERYTHING'S ONE THING.

JOHN DID MADE MENTION OF BUT ON THE FAA THEY THEY ONLY PAID FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE KIND OF INTERNAL TO OPERATIONS. SO ONE THING. HILTON HEAD IS PARKING THAT'S COME RECENT THAT WOULD NOT BE AN FAA FUNDED PROJECT. SO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HIS CFP. IF YOU LOOK BACK BACKUP DOCUMENTATION FROM EARLIER AS WELL AS HANGARS HANGARS ARE NOT TYPICALLY NOW BASICALLY IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON YOUR AIRPORT

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100 PERCENT UP TO AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SPEND MONEY ON THEN THEY'LL LOOK AT HANGARS BUT THAT IS USUALLY HARD TO HARD TO NOT FIND THINGS THAT YOU CAN IMPROVE ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE BEFORE YOU GET THE HANGARS. SO THOSE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY LISTED MASS TRANSIT. I DO THINK IT WAS WILL RECEIVED AND WE'LL WE COORDINATE WITH PALMETTO BREEZE ON DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES.

>> I THINK THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITHIN WITH THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND TRY TO TEAM UP AND SEE WHERE THERE'S THERE'S PLACES THAT MAKES SENSE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THEIR FUNCTIONS. SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING. WE'RE COORDINATE WITH JASPER COUNTY. WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT SITES THAT THE COUNTY OWNS ALREADY AS FAR AS SITE PLANNING. OUR MAJOR HURDLE RIGHT NOW IS GETTING THAT SITE FOR THE CAMPUS. THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY START TO DESIGN OF THE THE LARGE MURPH ONCE WE CONTROL THAT THEN WE CAN REALLY START MAKING A BIGGER IMPRESSION ON HOW OUR OPERATIONS THAT RECYCLE AND THEN ONTO OTHER COMPONENTS THE SOLID WASTE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO TALK WITH JASPER COUNTY AND AGAIN THE REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND SEE IF MAYBE THERE'S A SITE THAT'S SUITABLE THAT FITS BOTH PARTIES IN JASPER COUNTY. AFTER WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEIR STAFF WILL COME BACK AND PRESENT TO THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL FROM THERE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON SOLID WAYS. THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY HAVE THE TOP COUPLE PROJECTS A STANDALONE WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAMMER OUT WITH YOU GUYS THE LONG TERM. AS FAR AS PROJECTS. SO ONCE WE GET DECISIONS ON SOME OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS I.E. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, THE TENSION CENTER, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THOSE THREE BIG THE NORTH OR SOUTH ADMINISTRATION COMPONENT IT AT MYRTLE PARK AND WHAT'S NEEDED THERE. ONCE WE GET THOSE THEN WE CAN START BACK TRACKING A FULL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. BUT WE CAN'T TOUCH ONE BUILDING UNTIL WE TOUCH THIS ONE AND WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL WE TOUCH THAT.

AND SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE THE BACK ORDER REVERSE ENGINEERING ON THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE COME INTO YOU GUYS HERE SOON. TRANSPORTATION THE BIGGEST THING UPCOMING IN TRANSPORTATION IS THE POSSIBILITY FUTURE SALES TAX PROGRAM FOR NEXT NOVEMBER IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES. WE NEED TO REALLY START RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, DISCUSS WHAT WE WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT. ONE THING THE BIGGEST THING BEING THE TIME AND LINKS THEN WE CAN DEVELOP THE SIZE OF PROJECTS THAT FIT INTO IT. ALSO THE WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTS AND WHICH PROJECTS WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT DATA BUT WE'LL NEED YOU AS INPUT TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION SO WE CAN REALLY TARGET THAT THAT PROGRAM AND SET THAT UP FOR SUCCESS.

PUBLIC WORKS ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE AREN'T TAUGHT ON THAT EARLIER TODAY AND THEN THE BOAT LANDING MASTER PLAN TO THE BIGGEST COMPONENT THE MASTER PLAN WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT HOPEFULLY BUT MID YEAR NEXT YEAR, SUMMERTIME WE'LL HAVE THAT PLAN COMPLETE AND AS MENTIONED IN RETREAT IT WILL HAVE A BIG COST TO WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THAT BACK IN TIME PRIOR TO BUDGET. BUT EVEN SO, IT'S GOING TO BE A COST GREATER THAN GENERAL FUND BUDGET. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AND CONSIDER IN THE

COMING MONTHS. >> ANY WILD HARE IDEAS YOU HAVE FUNDING THAT WILL TAKE ANYTHING FROM STAFF AND THEN WE WILL REGURGITATE IT BACK TO YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY GREAT IDEAS ON HOW DO WE BRING THAT TO FUNDING? SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS AND ANY MORE DETAIL? GLADLY GO INTO REASON FOR BRINGING IT UP. I THINK EVERYBODY I DIDN'T SENSE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT BUT IF YOU SEE THINGS THAT WERE MISSED AS YOU GO BACK THROUGH YOUR NOTES AND YOU LET US KNOW OTHERWISE I THINK WE'RE PROCEEDING ON A PATH THAT SAYS IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DAY'S WORK IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON FOR THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF THE OBJECTIVES I TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH WITH JOE AND WITH ERIC AND WHAT MY SENSE IS THAT IF WE LOOK BACK GOT A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF DOING THE ONES THAT WE HAD ON OUR PLATE AND THERE'S FIVE THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE GOING FORWARD AND THREE OF THOSE ARE RELATED

TO INVESTMENTS WORK LIVE PLAY INVEST CONCEPT. >> ONE IS TRANSPORTATION.

ONE IS THE FACILITIES PIECE AND ONE IS CAPITAL IS THE ROADS AND I FIGURE WITH OTHERS THE AIRPORT. BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT IT IS THAT POTENTIALLY WE NEED TO INVEST IN. NOW WE'RE DOWN TO WHAT ARE THE AREAS? WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL PLAN LOOK LIKE? SO TO ME THOSE THREE OF OUR OBJECTIVES THAT WE DO SOONER RATHER THAN LATER TO UNDERSTAND THOSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING MASS TRANSIT IS ONE OF OURS AND I'M GLAD THAT WAS WELL RECEIVED AT THE RETREAT. I THINK IT DOES MAKE SOME MAKE SOME SENSE.

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AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE FERRY. AND ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT A MEETING WITH THE SAVANNAH FOLKS THIS FRIDAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND A LITTLE BIT LARGER GROUP.

BUT TO ME THOSE ARE THE FIVE OBJECTIVES THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER TAKING ON. AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOME TO IT AS WE GO FORWARD, LET ME KNOW. I THINK THOSE ARE THE FIVE THAT WE KIND OF HAVE IN FRONT OF US . ANY ANY CONVERSATION EITHER ON THE RETREAT OR THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE COMING YEAR. OKAY. COME AND GET WHEN YOU GO ALL THE ISLAM AND TALK ABOUT THE OF MASTERPLAN. AND I THINK I THINK STAFF IS REALLY LOOKING TO US TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS. AND SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND I'M HOPING THAT THEY WOULD BRING THAT TO US AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT. AND HAVE TO WE WILL DEBATED SAID SOME KIND OF COURSE OF DIRECTION TO GIVE THE STAFF FOR EXAMPLE, I JUST USE THE PUBLIC FACILITY AS ONE THE AIRPORT ROAD THE ENTIRE MESS IS FOR SOME OF THE I THINK THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SORT STAFF CAN MOVE FORWARD AND MAKING SOME DESIGNS AND GET THOSE FACILITIES UP AND RUNNING THE STORE. SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT WE GET THIS EXPEDIENTLY BRING TO US SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT DEBATED IT AND GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION AND THERE'S WITH THAT THERE'S SHORT TERM FUNDING NEEDS TO LONG TERM. THERE'S SHORT TERM FUNDING NEEDS LONG TERM FUNDING NEEDS AND LONG LONG TERM FUNDING NEEDS.

THAT'S THE 300 MILLION DOLLAR GORILLA. BUT THE SHORT TERM IS JUST WHAT YOU TELL ABOUT THE MSR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY JUST TO DESIGN COMPONENTS.

SO THAT'S A MILLION TWO MILLION SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN ALL THOSE BUILDINGS TOGETHER THAT'S 15 OR 20 MILLION. THAT'S THE KIND OF INTERMEDIATE TERM AND THEN LONG TERM IS THAT THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR GORILLA IN TALKING ABOUT THE

FACILITY MASTER PLAN. >> THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SOME MAJOR DECISION THAT AS COUNCIL WE HAVE TO MAKE. MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE IT SETS OF COURSE OF DIRECTION.

WE CAN WE CAN PULL OUT ON THAT AND MAKE A DECISION AND WE'LL BE SUBJECT TO ANOTHER COUNCIL.

WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION. AND I'LL JUST PUT IT FURTHER FURTHER BACK.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE AS OPEN AS TRANSPO TO SAY THIS IS THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL HAS RELEASED FACILITIES BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY NEED DEALING WITH KELLY EMPLOYEES, WE'LL DEAL WITH THE SHARE OF WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL THE ENTITIES AND THOSE DECISION HAS TO BE MADE BY SOMEBODY. AND I THINK IT'S BEST THAT AS CHAIRPERSON OF THIS COMMITTEE YOU'LL BE THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION AND LET'S DEAL WITH IT ACCORDINGLY. SHAME ON US IF WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE RIGHT.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT. THAT OK?

[22. DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL 2022 TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERDUM]

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OK. WELL, WE'LL GET CLOSE TO WRAPPING UP HERE ON THE WE EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THE POTENTIAL OF A REFERENDUM.

JARED TOUCHED ON SOME OF THIS. IT SEEMS TO ME ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST A LITTLE BIT IS WE'VE ALWAYS HISTORICALLY KIND OF DONE THESE IN FOUR YEAR BUNCHES BUT THERE IS A IS A RATHER INTERESTING ARGUMENT THAT I'VE KIND OF COME AROUND TO WHICH IS IT MAY BE BETTER TO LOOK OUT FURTHER WHAT WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE RISING A LOT FASTER BORROWING COSTS. AND IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO OUT FURTHER, WE CAN ACTUALLY DO MORE PROJECTS AND PAY FORM OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PIECES THAT WE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND THE OTHER IS THAT THE TIME IS KIND OF SHORT. YOU KNOW, WE PURPOSELY SAID WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE REFERENDUM ON LOST. SO AS TO NOT MUDDY THAT UP BUT REALLY IN REALITY PROBABLY IN THE NEXT TWO, THREE MONTHS AT THE LATEST WE'VE PRETTY MUCH GOT TO COME TO GRIPS WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING. DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE FINAL APPROVAL MAYBE UNTIL THE SPRING OR WE'VE KIND OF GOT TO SEEK. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO ONE OF THESE. SO STAY TUNED. BUT I THINK THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US. SO WE'RE AT THE WRAP UP. I JUST HAD ONE OR TWO ITEMS TO WRAP UP WITH AND I'D LIKE TO TOUCH BRIEFLY AND IF YOU COULD SARA COULD PULL IT UP.

LET ME TELL YOU WHERE I KIND OF THINK WE ARE ON THE CORRIDOR PIECE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE IN THE PAPER AND SO ON BUT THEY GET TO GO BACK IN TIME.

[23. VACANCIES: A. BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE - 2 VACANCIES DISTRICT 7 AND DISTRICT 9 B. CONSTRUCTION ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BOARD 2 VACANCIES - DESIGN PROF/CONTRACTOR BUILDING INDUSTRY C. KEEP BEAUFORT COUNTY BEAUTIFUL BOARD - 2 VACANCIES DISTRICT 7 AND DISTRICT 8]

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONCERN ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS STILL BEFORE YOU DO THE RAMP UP

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TO THE VACANCIES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THEM. >> WELL, OKAY.

>> THANK YOU, JOE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE SETS OF VACANCIES AND I DON'T KNOW

WHETHER WE HAVE ANY CANDIDATES FOR ANY OF THESE, DO WE? >> I DO HAVE CANDIDATES FOR THE

DISTRICT 9 TRANSPORTATION. >> OKAY. I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU, JOE. OKAY. SO THIS IS TRANSPORTATION AND YOU HAVE ONE FOR DISTRICT 9? YEAH, MY DISTRICT. YES.

AND WHO IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? IT WAS JOHN SHAW. >> SHATNER WHO ABOVE RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT BUT I NEED TO TALK TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT COMMITTEE.

>> OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THIS CATHOLIC DENOMINATION? MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. SO THIS THIS MOVE ON THE COUNCIL THEN IF THAT'S THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION AND IT COMES FROM THE SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT 7 AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH DISTRICT THAT IS WHO IS DISTRICT 7 THAT'S A LOGANS.

LOGAN OK. WE DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY FOR THAT.

I DON'T THINK OK. CONSTRUCTION ADJUSTMENT APPEALS BOARD.

WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES THAT HAD TO DO WITH PROFESSIONAL AND CONTRACTOR.

DO WE HAVE ANY AND WE HAD ANYBODY SUBMIT FOR THOSE THAT YOU KNOW WE WE DON'T WE'LL LEAVE THAT ONE OPEN AND THEN WE HAVE KEEP KEEP THE COUNTY BEAUTIFUL AND WE HAVE DISTRICTS 7 WHICH WOULD BE LOGAN IN DISTRICT 8 WHICH IS SAID CHRIS THAT'S CHRIS IS.

I WAS WORKING ON ONE FOR THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A SUBMISSION GOING.

>> OK, SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE OPEN THEN THEN THERE MAYBE A S LOGAN ABOUT ONE FOR HIS DISTRICT. SO MAYBE SOMETHING COMING ON THAT.

OKAY. YOU KNOW OUR RULE IS IF IF WE DON'T HAVE A MEMBER FROM SOMEBODY PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER THEN WE CAN LOOK BEYOND THAT TO OTHER APPLICATIONS AND

[24. CHAIRMAN'S WRAP UP]

FIX SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT THAT'S INVOLVED. BUT JOE, THANK FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION. SO LET ME JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON KIND OF KIND OF WHERE I SEE 278. WE OF COURSE ABOUT A YEAR AGO INITIATED THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW TOWN JOINED WITH US I THINK I THINK THAT WENT PRETTY WELL.

AND I THINK THEY BASICALLY CONFIRMED MANY OF THE THINGS OF WHERE THE OKATIE WAS AND I DIDN'T TOTALLY PUT TO BED ALL SOME OF THE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY BUT I THINK THEY CERTAINLY ADDRESSED HOPEFULLY MANY PEOPLE RECOGNIZED THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.

THE SECOND THING WE DID WAS TO SAY WE LOOK LIKE WE NEED A SOME KIND OF A LAND PLANNING EXERCISE. SO WE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATED MONEY FOR THAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THE TOWN DECIDED TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN NICKEL.

BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THAT. BUT THEY HAVE COME THAT LAND PLANNER HAS COME FORWARD WITH 24 RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK SOME OF THOSE WERE DISCUSSED AT THE STAFF LEVEL MEETING WITH DOJ. AND SOME OF THOSE MAY BE UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THEM. BUT I THOUGHT WHAT MIGHT BE USEFUL AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THEM COME IN AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND BRIEF US ON THAT BECAUSE OUR ROLE AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE KIND OF THE CLIENT HILTON HEAD AND THE CONTRACTOR IS D OR T BUT WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. EXPLAIN EXPLAIN THAT WHAT OUR EXACT RESPONSIBILITIES ARE HERE . SO I DON'T MESS IT UP WHEN IT RELATES TO HIGHWAY 278.

THE CLIENT IS BEAUFORT COUNTY. THIS IS A BEAUFORT COUNTY PROJECT AND DOJ T HAS AGREED AND WE'RE WORKING ON AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE

GETTING READY TO FINALIZE BY THE END OF THE MONTH. >> SOUTH CAROLINA DEONTE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER ON BEHALF OF BEAUFORT COUNTY BUT IS IS BEAUFORT COUNTY PROJECT.

>> OK. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ON SOME DESIGN

ELEMENTS WITH THE LAND PLANNING EXERCISE THAT YOU SEE UP HERE. >> BUT WE ARE WE.

THIS IS A COUNTY PROJECT THAT D O T IS HANDLING PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR ON BEHALF OF THE

COUNTY. OK. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. SO SAY NO AND PLANNING PEOPLE HAVE PUT TOGETHER I THINK IT'S 24 26 RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ARE IN GREEN HERE. WE WON'T TRY TO RUN THROUGH ALL OF THOSE BUT AT SOME POINT TIME WILL OBVIOUSLY CATCH UP WITH THE TOWN AND WITH THE LAND PLANNERS FOR PURPOSES OF AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT. IF YOU COULD GO TO THAT FIRST SHEET THAT'S IN WHITE I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF TAKING THE THE 26 RECOMMENDATIONS AND JUST KIND OF GROUPED THEM INTO INTO FOUR GROUPS WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT FIND USEFUL BUT THREE KIND OF RELATE TO THE BRIDGE HAS TO DO WITH THE ARRIVAL EXPERIENCE. YOU KNOW HOW WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE AND WE MADE IT AS MUCH OF A GATEWAY THAT THAT PEOPLE WANT.

>> SO THAT WAS THREE OF THEIR ISSUES. THE NEXT ON THE OTHER SIDE

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THERE'S SIX THERE THAT KIND OF RELATE TO THE STONEY AREA AND THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES AND IN THE STONY PIECE AND I WON'T READ THROUGH THESE BUT THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED THAT I THINK DEAL TEAM WILL BE LOOKING AT IN SOME FORM AS WE GO GO FORWARD WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE AND BY THE WAY, I FAIR TO SEND THIS OUT TO YOU SEE I HAVE IT THERE'S A THERE'S A BUNCH OF ISSUES THAT ARE IN MY MIND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE MORE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE DESIGN THAN THEY ARE IN OUR BUT THEY'RE THE LOGICAL ONES TO BRING THEM UP THINGS LIKE YOU KNOW, WHEREAS FOR THE TRAILS BE AND HOW WIDE SHOULD THEY BE AND WHAT SHOULD THE SIGNAGE BE AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE WERE SIX OF THEM THAT KIND OF RELATED A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE BUT THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO IMPROVE THE THE OVERALL COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THE GULLAH COMMUNITY AND THAT PARTICULAR AREA IN THE LOWER RIGHT. I THINK THERE'S THREE THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS D.A. IS PUT TO BED THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DISAGREES WITH. ONE IS WOULD BE HAVING A REDUCED SPEED THROUGH THE ENTIRE QUARTER. SO IT'S A MORE GENTLE ARRIVAL EXPERIENCE.

WE TALKED ABOUT OURSELVES THAT I THINK IT MAYBE IS AT THE RETREAT ABOUT WHETHER THE BRIDGE A SINGLE BRIDGE SHOULD BE BROKEN INTO TWO AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND THE IMPACT OF POTENTIALLY DELAYING THAT AND RISKING SOME OF THE FUNDING AND THE EXTRA COST.

AND WE AS A COUNCIL SAID THAT ONE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO US AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT BE A SINGLE SIGNAL AT JENKINS ISLAND .

I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO WIN THE HARBOR FOLKS FOR BOTH CHRIS AND FOR ME, LARRY AND I THINK THERE IS NO OBJECTION THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

SO ANYWAY, THESE ARE KIND OF THE ISSUES THAT I SEE ON THE TABLE AS IT CONTINUES TO GET GET BOILED DOWN. SO JUST PASS THAT ALONG AS A WAY TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE

ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE. >> RIGHT, GENTLEMEN. MANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE RECOMMENDATION LIST HAVE BEEN EITHER MOVED TO A LATER DATE ON THE PROCESS LIKE THOSE NON

PROJECT RELATED ITEMS. >> THOSE ARE NOT EVEN UNDER CONSIDERATION NOW.

D O T IS LOOKING AT MAYBE A HALF A DOZEN OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO ACCOMMODATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT NOT ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ON THE LIST ARE STILL ON THE TABLE.

SOME OF HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN REMOVED FROM THE RECOMMENDATION AND TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS HAVE AN M K CASCADE UPDATE THAT LIST AND PROVIDE COST ESTIMATES FOR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. THESE ARE MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE COST ISSUES.

>> COUNTY ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT BE RECOMMENDING ANY MORE COUNTY FUNDING FOR DUE TO ZONING. AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WHO HAS BEEN SECRETARY HALL WHO HAS BEEN MORE THAN GENEROUS WITH THE COUNTY IN ALLOCATING ADDITIONAL MONEY TO THIS PROJECT THAT THERE WILL BE NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING COMING FROM US. SC D O T WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT.

SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE COUNTING FUNDING IN SC DO FUNDING WILL HAVE TO COME FROM SOME OTHER SOURCE EITHER TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND OR SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCE AT

THE STATE LEVEL OUTSIDE OF DOJ . >> SO I JUST WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR. ONE OF THE ITEMS I PICKED UP IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE MEDIA THIS WEEKEND IS ABOUT USING THE EXISTING BRIDGES AS A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY OR PARK.

I THINK YOU ALL HAVE SOME SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE WITH THE COST OF MAINTAINING OLD BRIDGES

HERE. >> BROAD RIVER BRIDGE COMES TO MIND IS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM NEO TEE THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO MAINTAIN EXISTING BRIDGES IN THE WAY OF A PART YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TO THREE HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLAR A YEAR FUNDING ALLOCATION. JUST DO THAT MAINTENANCE FROM A RECOMMEND FROM AN ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT. THAT MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BUILD NEW BRIDGES WITH PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS ON THOSE BRIDGES AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE AMOUNT OF USE THAT THE BRIDGE WOULD GET FOR PEDESTRIAN COMPONENT AND WE SHOULD INVEST OUR MONEY AND INTO THOSE INTO THE NEW BRIDGES AND MAKING AND MAKING THOSE IS A STATICALLY PLEASING AS POSSIBLE AND AS ACCOMMODATING TO MULTI-MODAL TRAFFIC AS FEASIBLE WITHOUT IT

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EXPERIENCING A LOT OF COST OVERRUNS. >> SO WE'VE GOT DANCE TRAINING QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT AND I WENT THROUGH A LOT RIGHT THERE.

>> QUESTION ABOUT REDUCING THE SPEED THAT THING IS OFF THE TABLE.

NO REDUCING SPEED IS SOMETHING THAT DOES IT OR DE TEAM IS WRONG TO LOOK AT ME LOOK AT AND I GUESS SURPRISED I'M JUST SURPRISED AND ALSO SOME WINE WITH PRODUCTION ON SOME OF THE INTERIOR LIGHT NOT THE OUTER LINERS AND NOT EVEN LANDS ON THE BRIDGES THEY CANNOT REDUCE THE WITH THE LINES ON THE BRIDGE AND DURING THE RETREAT WE TALKED TO TALKING ABOUT THE ATO A LINE MAYBE THE LANES FOR EMERGENCY COULD BE USED FOR HLA LIKE THE BUSES AT CERTAIN TIMES

. >> WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHERE YOU'RE HERE.

I REMEMBER THAT COMING UP. I THINK THE BRIDGE IS ALSO TO YOU WOULD BE GLAD TO GIVE THEM

TO THE COUNTY. >> IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TAKE THEM BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE THE OBLIGATION AT THE END OF THEIR LIFECYCLE HAVE TO TEAR THEM DOWN.

AND THAT'S A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS AT THAT POINT AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT EIGHT.

I THINK NOW YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD NOT BE RECOMMENDING TO YOU ALL THAT WE

TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THOSE BRIDGES OUT. >> I'LL TELL YOU THAT NEVER AGAIN WE WILL NOT BE RECOMMENDING TO YOU ALL THAT YOU ALL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF AND MAKE SURE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE EXISTING BRIDGES AND IT WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE DESIGN

RELATIVE TO THE FOOT OF THE BRIDGE IS ALSO GONE. >> I THINK IT CAN IMPACT THE PROJECT MORE THAN WE IMAGINE AND COULD POTENTIALLY DELAY THE PROJECT FURTHER AND I DON'T

THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FLEW AT ONE POINT EARLIER YOU KNOW WE GOT TO START SEEING SOME CONSTRUCTION ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE GOT IN PLACE AND I'M ANXIOUS TO GET THAT DONE AND TO, YOU KNOW, START MOVING, MOVE SOME IRON ORE SOME

OF THESE PROJECTS SO WE CAN GET THESE THINGS. >> SO WE GET THESE THINGS UNDERWAY. IF I COULD POINT MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL REUSE OF OF THAT THE EXISTING BRIDGES OR PARTITIONS THAT WE ALREADY THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BEEN IN THE COUNTY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I COMMEND REPRESENTATIVE BRADLEY FOR SPEARHEADING IT AT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A REAL HUGE FAN OF THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE OUTSIDE THE BOX THOUGHTS.

MY PROBLEM IS I REALLY DON'T SEE US EVER RECOUPING THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE EXPENSE EVER . I COULD SEE IT BEING A MILD DRAW BUT NOT THE KIND OF DRAW THAT BRINGS IN THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TO FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN PERPETUITY. SO I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS COST EFFECTIVE FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT AND AGAIN I COMMEND EVERYBODY WHO'S THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FOR OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING YOU NEED A LOT MORE OF THAT. THIS ONE JUST DOESN'T WORK.

THANK YOU VERY WELL SON. >> AS QUICKLY WE WILL MAKE SURE THE STATE OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS 270 PROJECT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY NOT THE OWNERSHIP.

IT IS THERE TO SAY MAKE CORDELL PROJECT AS A COUNTY PROJECT AND SO FUNDING IS COMING FROM VARIOUS SOURCES AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A BUDGET MOVING FORWARD IN THE EVENT WHETHER IT DELAYED OR

CAUSE OVERRUN THAT'S GOING TO FALL ON US. >> WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A

WAY TO FIND ANY ANY OVERAGES AT THIS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. >> YES, WE HAVE WE HAVE A DEDICATED SOURCE OF THE 1 CENT MONEY IMPACT FEES THE SEALED ALLOCATION AND THE DOJ ALLOCATION EVERY ACCORDING TO DOTY EVERY YEAR THAT WE LIKE THE PROJECT MILLION MEAN THAT

IN ITSELF IS A MILLION AND A HALF PRICE TAG. >> SO THAT'S MARTIAL ARTS PER

MONTH PER MONTH YEAH PRETTY MUCH. >> SO SO SO ONCE YOU GET STARTED WITH THIS PROJECT FOR WHATEVER REASON THE FUNDS RUN OUT AND WE CAN'T COMPLETELY

ERODE THAT'S THAT'S IT. >> THOSE ARE THE TYPES THINGS THAT KEEP ME AWAKE AT NIGHT.

>> COUNCILMAN MCGLONE OKAY WE'VE GOT IT. >> WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LOOK TO YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT IDENTIFIED THE PRIORITY STAFF HAS A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT COUNTLESS WOULD LIKE FOR US TO WORK ON.

I'M FACED WITH THE POSSIBILITY HERE PROVIDING YOU ALL WITH A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION AND A FEW MONTHS AND TRYING TO GIVE YOU ALL A BALANCED BUDGET BASED ON JUST GENERATION OF REVENUES WITHOUT A PROPERTY TAX INCREASES IS A DAUNTING TASK FOR ME WITH EVERYTHING THAT I

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SEE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS ANYBODY CAN DO IT.

YOU COULD DO WELL IF ANYBODY CAN DO IT THE FINE STEAM AND ALL THE TALENT SCOUT MEMBERS AND WE HAVE CAN DO IT BUT I KNOW WE CAN TAKE A LOOK COMING UP AS WELL AND THAT KIND OF LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO INCREASE THE RATE ABOUT THE LINE ON TAXES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OK.

I THINK WE'VE HAD A LONG MEETING, A GOOD MEETING AND I WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER. BUT JERRY AND I HAVE TALKED IF WE HAVE ENOUGH STUFF THAT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD BEFORE YEAR AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THAT DONE RIGHT AND WAIT TILL JANUARY. BUT I RECOMMEND, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT YOU DO THAT ON CHRISTMAS

DAY. >> OK. THAT'S THE NOW I'LL JUST GO

AHEAD AND PUBLISH THAT. >> YEAH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT.

IT IS THE VISE CHAIR THE ONE THING'S CHAIRMAN THERE IS THERE IS THE THERE IS A THERE IS JERRY GAVE A LIST TO ME FIVE ITEMS FOR THEM HAVE BEEN SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THE FIT FOR THEM REALLY HAVE NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY DISCUSSION HAS BEEN MADE AT THIS TIME BUT THIS WAS ON THE FACILITY SPACE FROM THE MASTER MASTER PLAN THAT WAS GOING TO COME A FIFTH ITEM REALLY KIND OF DISTURBED ME THAT IF WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT FIFTH ITEM IS SORT OF TIME SENSITIVE AND JUST WHERE THINGS ARE WITH THAT JERRY AT THIS TIME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA IF THERE'S NO TIME SENSITIVE ANYMORE THEN IT'S NOT TIME SENSITIVE. WHATEVER IT IS. I THINK AS A COUNCIL WE NEED TO

ADDRESS THAT AND MOVE FORWARD. IT IS TIME SENSITIVE. >> SO THE FIFTH ITEM FOR EVERYBODY IS JUST AS WE TALK ABOUT FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, THERE'S SOME STANDALONE PROJECTS I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES. THE OTHER WORKS THE M S BUT THE FIFTH ITEM IS ARE THERE SOME PROPERTIES THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY NOW THAT MAYBE ARE AVAILABLE NOW WHETHER WE KNOW OUR FULL INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM PLAN FULLY ALREADY OR NOT ,IS IT WORTHWHILE TO INVEST IN SOME PROPERTY TO GIVE US THE LATITUDE AND ABILITY? SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF DECISIONS THAT THAT WE STAFF NEED TO GET TO YOU IN SHORT ORDER TO DISCUSS AND AGAIN THOSE ARE PROPERTY TYPE ACQUISITIONS.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO LOOK THIS PARCEL OR IF NOT IT MIGHT BE BOUGHT AND SOLD? THERE'S NO CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT PARCEL AT A LATER DATE. SO WE'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU IN

SHORT ORDER. >> BUT YOU ARE VERY CORRECT THAT IF THERE'S PROPERTIES LIKE THAT THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE MARKET IT'D BE WORTHWHILE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.

>> SO THERE IS A REASON QUESTION BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND KILLS IN THAT MEETING NO SENSE COMING BACK FOR A CHRISTMAS MEETING.

TOUGH TO DEAL WITH THIS IF WE CAN DEAL WITH IT NOW. SO THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK IF WE HAVE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DO, WE WERE WE'D PROBABLY DO ONE OF TWO THINGS HANDLE THAT SAY THE SAME DAY AS OUR MEETING OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND WE HAVE ONE PERHAPS AT AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING OR WE COULD WE COULD DO A PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING EARLIER IN THE MONTH THAT DOES TAKE DURING ITEM ON THAT 13TH IS AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL BEFORE THAT THAT COUNCIL MEETING. SO THERE'S THERE'S AN OPTION

THERE AS WELL. YEAH, WE WILL TURN UP NOW. >> RIGHT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND GARRETT EVERYBODY REMEMBER WE'D WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. EXACTLY. YEAH.

>> YEAH ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WELL GOOD MEETING.

WE STAND ADJOURNED. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >> WITH A

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