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SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START THE SPECIAL BALL OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.
UM, WE HAVE A CUTE PEOPLE JOINING US VIA ZOOM.
SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU HAVE MR. BOARD MEMBER, MR. DAVID STRIVEN JUROR.
UM, AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO IDENTIFY, THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR MR.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST KIND OF, UM, AROUND THE TABLE, WE CAN START WITH MS. CARTLIDGE.
AND LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE JOIN US WITH THE PERSON ON THE IPHONE.
UM, AND CANDACE HAS NOW JOINED US.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START THIS MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLACE.
WE'LL ALL STAND I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SO THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, MOVE WITH REVISION.
MR. SMITH, ARE YOU GOING TO SECOND BASKET? OKAY.
2 0, 1 ABOUT NOT CAST MR. SMITH.
IF YOU'RE MR. SMITH, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS MEETING ALONG.
I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
SO WE CONTINUED WHAT? I'M SORRY.
YOU'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
UH, HE, UH, APPARENTLY, UH, I, I HIT MY MIC AND IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T WORK.
UM, SO, BUT NO, UM, YEAH, NOT SO MUCH THAT I'M HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
UM, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT MY MIC WAS ON AND IT WAS NOT.
SO I WAS TALKING, I WAS TALKING TO YOU, WE'RE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY.
I MEAN, I GUESS WE'RE IN A MASSIVE RUSH TODAY.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT WAS JUST THE FACT THAT I WAS TALKING TO IN, IN, IN, IN, UM, IN FACT I WAS TALKING AND MY PHONE WAS MUTED.
THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS YOU DIDN'T GIVE IT TO ME.
SO I'LL ASK YOU THAT ACTUALLY I'LL ASK YOU, IS THAT A YES FOR ACTUALLY MY, I HAD A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE AGENDA.
HAVE ANY QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING YOU.
MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO, UH, DECISIONS ON USE OF FACILITY, UH THAT'S.
THAT'S NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I REQUESTED.
THE QUESTION WAS THE PROCESS OF THE USE OF FACILITIES.
SO MR.
SO THE PROCESS COULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
AND THE OTHER OBJECTIONS, I HEAR A NON LET'S REBOOT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
THAT UNANIMOUS, MS. CHRIS, MARY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.
SO LET'S DO IT ALL ON 2 0 8 0.1 H MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL MR. AUDIT.
UM, IT FEEL WELL THAT FIRST PAGE, AND ACTUALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL AND SEXY 8.6.
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ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'S 8.6, FOUR AND 8.6.THIS STATES ENSURE THAT FACILITIES ARE CLEAN.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING TODAY.
UM, THIS INTERPRETATION OF THIS ZOE'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY, BUT I'LL, SINCE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME USING IT, I'LL JUST GO OVER IT QUICKLY.
AM I CLEAR? UM, MR. DISTRIBUTOR, MR. SMITH, UH, YOU GUYS OUT THERE? MY LOUD ENOUGH CLEAR.
SO YOU SAID THAT THE E ON THE AGENDA WAS A DIFFERENT, IT WAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
YEAH, THERE'S A, IT'S STILL EXCITING.
IT'S STILL SAY ON MAINTENANCE, BUT THE NUT IS THAT 8.1 AND IT'S 8.6.
WELL, I'M WONDERING FOR FOUR YEAR, FOUR YEAR RULES, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE, UH, WE HAVE TO REVISIT, REVISIT THAT, BEING THAT, BEING THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'D BE THAT IT WAS A TYPO WHERE WE HAVE TO REVISIT THAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT BE ON THE AGENDA PROPERLY.
WE WISH WE HAD CHANGED THAT BEFORE, BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, WE, UH, WE AGREED ON THE AGENDA.
I SAY MISSING, UH, ABOUT RIGHT-HAND IS UP.
WE CAN ALSO JUST AMEND THE AGENDA TO SAY 8.6 JUST NEEDS TO, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR NOW, IF YOU WEREN'T SURE.
WE AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT THE TYPO AND CHANGE FROM 8.1 TO 8.6.
I WILL SECOND THAT MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
NO, WE SEE THAT WE WERE TALKING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, I, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, I I'M CONCERNED IF, UH, THAT THAT WILL, WILL WE BE IN THE FALL? WE WILL BE WITHIN FOYER RULES AND REGULATIONS.
IF, IF, IF WE CHANGE THAT WITH IT NOT BEING A, UH, A EMERGENCY IT'S A CERTAIN, UH, EMERGENCY.
YOU ONLY NEED EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES IF THERE'S PUBLIC ACTION BEING TAKEN AND THE TITLE IS THE TITLE OF THE O E IS CORRECT ON BOTH DOCUMENTS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ALL IN FAVOR AND AMENDED AGENDA.
SO SINCE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME GOING OVER THIS ONE, I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE INTERPRETATION MONITORING INDICATORS, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL REPORT.
SO AS YOU CAN READ IT THERE, THE INTERPRETATION I'M GOING TO JUST READ IT.
WE UNDERSTAND THIS COMPONENT REQUIRES US TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE OUR MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL CONTRACTORS.
EVALUATIONS SHOULD BE COMPLETED, USUALLY USING VISUAL INSPECTION SURVEYS AND REPORTS FOR EACH CONTRACTOR.
THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT FACILITIES ARE CLEAN SANITARY AND SAFE, WHICH OF COURSE MATCHES UP WITH THE BOARDS.
SO THE MONITORING INDICATORS THAT WE SAID WE GOING TO BRING FORWARD IS, UM, PROOF THAT WE HAVE AN ACTIVE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE A FUNCTIONING WORK ORDER SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE POSITIVE PRINCIPAL SURVEY RESULTS FROM THE SCHOOLS AND, UM, SURVEY THAT INCLUDES THE TEACHER'S VOICE THROUGH TEACHER GROUPS AND A POSITIVE CONTRACT SCOPE OF SERVICES REVIEW.
SO WE'RE AS PART OF THIS OPEN IE SAYING, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE INACTIVE, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS RUNNING FOR THE USE OF AND DIRECT THAT'S OUR SOFTWARE PROGRAM.
UM, SCHOOLDUDE IS OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM, AND IT IS FUNCTIONING AS A WORK WORD SYSTEM FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, MY MOTTO THERE OF COURSE, IS WHEN IN DOUBT, UH, PUT IN A WORK ORDER AND THEN WE HOLD TO THAT WORKS VERY WELL.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE MOSTLY POSITIVE SURVEY RESULTS WITH A 63% RESPONSE RATE FROM THE PRINCIPALS.
WE DID REACH OUT TO A TEACHER FOR MORE THAN TWO COMPLETE SURVEY FOR MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL PERFORMANCE.
AND A SCOPE OF SERVICE REVIEW WAS HELD WITH ABM MAINTENANCE ON 9, 8, 20 21, AND ATS FOR CUSTODIAL ON 9, 9 20 20.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE SURVEY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO RECEIVE IS ENDED IN AUGUST.
UM, THIS OB WAS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER, BUT WE JUST GOT PUSHED FURTHER AND FURTHER OFF THE AGENDA.
SO WE'RE JUST NOW ABLE TO REPORT.
SO SOME OF THIS MATERIAL JUST CONSIDER THAT IT WAS DONE IN AUGUST IS ONE OF THE SURVEYS.
SO IF WE CAN GO ON THE REPORT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO START.
UM, AND WE DID INTRODUCTIONS EARLIER, BUT I JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, BRANDY MAJORS INTRODUCE HERSELF.
SHE'S OUR FACILITY, SERVICE MANAGER.
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SHE HAS TAKEN ON, UH, THAT WILL BE OVER MAINTENANCE, CUSTODIAL, AND GROUNDS.BRANDY WAS THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR OPERATIONS.
AND BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR ME.
SO SHE, UM, AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME, UM, OPIC OF HAVING SOME WORK ORDER, UH, QUESTIONS.
AND SO IS MR. ED MILLER, THAT'S THE DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH JUST SOME, YOU KNOW, GOOD, GOOD PICTURES OF PROJECTS BEING DONE.
AND I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING.
THEN THE LAST QUARTER WE DID ACTUALLY HAVE TO REPLACE THE EVAPORATORS FOR THREE SCHOOLS, UH, FOR WALKING COOLERS OR WALK-IN FREEZERS.
SO THEIR ECP FOR MIDDLE RED, CEDAR, AND BLUFFTON MENTORING.
NEXT ONE, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WE DID HAVE TO DEAL WITH HURRICANE ELSA, WHICH HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON PORT ROYAL ELEMENTARY AND ALSO BEAVER HIGH AND, UM, BUFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK AT PORT ROYAL ELEMENTARY IS COMPLETED, BUT THERE IS STILL A COUPLE, INCLUDING IRON WORKS, UM, SMALL PIECE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND THERE ARE STILL A COUPLE OF PIECES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED, ET CETERA.
WHAT ARE THE NEXT ONE? AND I'M SHOWING JUST ONE PROJECT FOR SOUTH ABROAD AND ONE BREIVIK FROM NORTH ABROAD.
UH, THE PROJECT FOR SOUTH ABROAD IS A HELTON HAD MIDDLE SCHOOL BUS SLOT, WHERE WE EXPANDED AN AREA THAT THEY WERE PARKING IN THE MUD AND KIDS WERE HAVING TO WALK THROUGH MUD.
AND, UM, IT'S NOT A SMOOTH THAT OUT, BUT GRAVEL DOWN FROM THE LEFT, THE PARK ON THE NORTH ABROAD IS A SIMILAR PROJECT WHERE THIS IS AN ASPHALT APRON THAT WAS DONE, OR THE NEW PROPANE FUELING STATION FOR PROBATE BUS.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE ITEMS WORKFORCE.
UM, SO IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH, UM, SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WORKFORCE AND JUST SAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE END.
UM, BECAUSE IN ALL THE KIND OF THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, THERE IS A STORY BEHIND ALL OF IT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD TO START LOOKING AT THIS IS THERE WAS JUST A FEELING THAT MAINTENANCE WAS A LITTLE BEHIND THIS YEAR.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT AT THE START OF EVERY YEAR, THERE IS CHAOS AND MAINTENANCE SO THAT THE TEACHERS COME BACK WHERE THEY WOULD WORK ORDERS AND IT'S CONSTANTLY FINE TRY AND DO A CATCH UP.
IT JUST FELT LIKE THIS YEAR THAT IT TOOK LONGER TO CATCH UP AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND, AND I'LL KIND OF FORECAST WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE COMING UP IS THE SURVEY RESULTS FOR MAINTENANCE ARE LOWER THAN NORMAL.
SO THAT FEELING AND HAVING THE SURVEY RESULTS LOWER AND KIND OF HAD US START LOOKING INTO WHAT'S THE CAUSE OF THIS.
AND WE SAW SEVERAL ITEMS WENT AROUND BETWEEN BRANDY, MYSELF, AND ED ABOUT WHAT COULD BE THE CAUSE OF IT.
AND WE STARTED LOOKING INTO THE DATA ON THE WORK ORDER NUMBERS.
UM, AND A LOT OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT, UH, EITHER NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR OR DIDN'T PAN OUT COMPLETELY, BUT THERE WAS ONE ITEM THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP CLEARLY.
AND THAT IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THE MAINTENANCE HAS HAD PUT IN OR, UM, COVID IS ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
AND WHAT MAINTENANCE HAS NOT DONE IS RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL WORKERS OR STIPENDS OF ANY KIND BECAUSE OF COVID AND WHAT, AND WHAT MAINTENANCE HAS TAKEN ON AND LIKE USUAL, UM, UH, WHEN ASKED THEY, THEY DO WHAT ASKS IS THE WHOLE, WE TURNED OUR WAREHOUSE INTO A DISTRIBUTION CENTER FOR COVID SUPPLIES, WHICH WE NEVER HAD TO DO.
SO, UM, SUPPLIES ARE BROUGHT IN, THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED FROM HERE.
UM, WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS LIKE WHEN WE BUY THE SANITIZER SPRAY IN BULK 55 GALLON DRUMS, UM, AND ACTUALLY WITH A, UH, WELL, YOU HAVE TO ADD IT, IT'S IN A CAR IN CONCENTRATED FACTOR AND HAS TO BE MIXED FOR THE WATER AND THEN PUT IN THE BOTTLES.
AND SO THAT'S DONE IN EVERY SCHOOL AND EVERY TIME A MASON IN SECOND BUSINESS SCHOOL, THEY STOP BY SEE IF THOSE BOTTLES NEED TO BE FILLINGS, DISTRIBUTE THOSE BOTTLES.
SO ALL OF THAT, THE FOOT, UH, ACQUAINTED TO THE EQUIVALENT OF TWO FULL-TIME WORKERS.
UM, AND, UM, THE QUESTION HERE IS THAT, IS THAT, SO SINCE WE DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING TO IT, IT'S REALLY CONSIDERING THE LOSS TOO.
UM, AND THE QUESTION REALLY FOR US IS ALL RIGHT, IS THIS SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL WORDS, OR IS THIS THE BLIP IN THE ROAD THAT'S ONLY TEMPORARY AND WE CAN GET THROUGH IT AND THEY CONTINUE ON, OR IS IT SOMETHING LONG-TERM THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING WITH THEN,
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DO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE FOR THAT, THAT, THAT SERVICE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE? UM, SO THAT WAS SOME MORE THOUGHTS.UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE WORK ORDER SUMMARY THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT IF YOU START WITH VIGOR 18, AUGUST 18 C WORK ORDERS WITH BNZ WAS 12,029, THAT'S PRE COVID, UM, THAT EQUATES TO, AND THAT'S A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 2000 WORK ORDERS OVER THE SIX MONTH PERIOD, YOU MOVE UP AUGUST, 2018 AND FEBRUARY, 2019.
THAT'S JUST BEFORE, COVID AGAIN, 12,000 1 98 AND SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 2000 PER MONTH.
AND THEN AFTER THE MAIN COMMENTS OF COVID, UM, AND WE'RE STILL IN SCHOOL, YOU SEE A JUMP.
NOW WE WENT TO 14,007 18, AND THE NUMBER OF ORDERS JUST UNDER 2,500 PER MONTH.
IT SEEMS THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT, THAT IS MY, UM, MY MISTAKE.
YOU'RE SEEING THE JOB 2019 TO SEPTEMBER, AND THEN IT CONTINUES.
AND TO SEPTEMBER OF 2019 TO FEBRUARY, 2020, AND THEN TO FEBRUARY, 2020 IS, UH, WHEN, UH, YEAH, THE COVID IS FULL-TIME AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT DRIVE A PRETTY LARGE DROP.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT MONTH, WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN-BETWEEN, YOU START THE HYBRID MODEL AND THAT'S GONE TO FURTHER WHERE YOU'RE ONLY GETTING IT OFF 1500 AND THEN COME TO THIS MONTH, YOU'RE JUMPING BACK UP TO THAT PRE COVID NUMBERS OF 14 TO 91 BECAUSE WE'RE FULL IN SCHOOL.
BUT BY THE LAST TIME WE WERE FULLY IN SCHOOL, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE JUMPED RIGHT BACK UP THE HARD CLOSE, AND YOU GOT TO REALIZE THAT THAT'S MARCH TO AUGUST AND IN MARCH, WE WERE STILL IN HYBRID.
AND YOU'RE JUST GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF THE AUGUST TIME PERIOD.
THAT'S GOING TO PLAY OFF WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OTHER NUMBERS LATER, IS THAT, UM, WE'RE TRACKING TO HAVE A PRETTY BIG INCREASE IN COURT, ORDERED NUMBERS THIS YEAR, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE JUST SEEING THE BEGINNING STUFF, CAUSE WE'RE ONLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS, THIS IS ONE THING I KNOW THAT, UM, UH, MS. DISTRIBUTOR LIKES AND I LIKE TO TALK IS JUST TO TRACK OUR OVERALL PROGRESS, HOW WE DONE WITH OUR TOTAL NUMBER OF WORK ORDERS.
AND YOU SEE THAT WE PEAKED IN FY 2019 AND WE DROPPED TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR 2021.
SO THAT'S ONLY IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, THAT WOULDN'T COUNT ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SEEING AS THE BIG INCREASE AS OCCURRING NOW.
SO IF IT CONTINUES TO OCCUR, LIKE WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND IT CONTINUES THROUGH THE YEAR, YOUR WORK ORDERS ARE GOING TO JUMP BACK UP TO FYI 2019 LEVELS, OR ARE IN THAT SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, MAYBE A LITTLE HIGHER, MAYBE LOWER.
AND SO ON THE NEXT CHART OF TOTAL WORK ORDERS PER WORKER PER YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME SLIGHT BUMP UP.
UM, IT WASN'T TOO MUCH HIGHER, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO CAUSE WE HAVEN'T CHANGED OUR NUMBER OF WORKERS.
UM, SO WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO TOTAL OF SQUARE FEET PER YEAR, THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN TOTAL NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE ADDITION OF MAY RIVER AND RIVER RIDGE.
PRIOR TO THAT, YOU HAD THE ADDITIONS AT WILLOW BRANCH, EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE AND, UM, TOTAL SQUARE FEET PER WORKER PER YEAR.
YOU SEE THAT, UH, WE DROPPED, WE WERE AT A HIGHER RATE WHEN YOU WEREN'T QUITE PERFORMING AS HIGH BACK WHEN WE'VE HAD SOME HIGHER SCORES AS DROPPED DOWN AND IT SLOWLY INCHING UP, BUT IT'S STILL NOT TOO FAR OFF OUR LOW LEVEL OF FYI, 2018.
SO THAT, DO YOU WANT TO START, STOP THERE TO TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE SURVEY RESULTS? OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE? I THINK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK ORDERS, UM, THAT WE SHOULD STOP NOW, CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO LET'S SAY BARE HANDS UP.
UM, JUST CAUSE I HAVE PRACTICUMS ON NOW AND I'M TRYING TO GET, I'M GETTING INTO Q Q S UM,
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ALL RIGHT.UM, SO ARE THEY, IS THE MAINTENANCE COMPARED TO EXPERIENCE IN STAFFING SHORTAGES? LIKE WE, IN A LOT OF OTHER AREAS OF THE DISTRICT, ARE THEY FULLY STAFFED REALLY QUICK? SO ACTUALLY YOU MAY BE DOWN WITH ONE FIRST FINGER PAINTER RIGHT NOW.
THEY MANAGED TO YET THE MAINTENANCE HAS NOT BEEN IMPACTED AS MUCH AS A CUSTODIAL OR TRANSPORTATION.
AND THAT'S, THAT IS A GOOD THING AND A BAD THING.
THE BAD THING IS THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT RAMPING UP FOR A TEMPORARY TIME PERIOD, IT'S TOUGHER BECAUSE MAINTENANCE DOESN'T HAVE THE CHURN THAT SAY TRANSPORTATION OR CUSTODIAL HAS, IT'S QUITE EASILY EASY IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO RAMP UP AND RAN BACK DOWN JUST TO NASH, UH, NATURAL, UM, PEOPLE LEAVING AND COMING AND GOING.
THAT HAPPENS NATURALLY QUITE MAINTENANCE DOESN'T HAVE THAT HIGH LEVEL OF TERM.
AND SO, UM, THEY'VE STAYED PRETTY FULLY STAFFED THIS WHOLE TIME.
AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION WITH THE BREAST TO WORK, OR IF YOU DON'T MIND THAT I DID THE SHORT AND SUMMER IMPACT WAS THERE SORT OF OKAY.
CAUSE I DON'T KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, BUT WHEN I SAW THOSE NUMBERS, I WAS LIKE, IT HAS TO BE THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THE NORMAL AMOUNT OF TIME.
I MEAN, YES, THAT THE, AND THE LEVEL OF YOU GOT A SHORTENED SUMMER WITH AN INCREASED LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO BOTH CUSTODIAL AND MAINTENANCE THAT CAUSES AN ISSUE, YOU JUST GETTING IN THEIR WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ACCESS TO BUILDINGS.
SO ALMOST THE END OF THE SUMMER.
SO THAT A VERY GOOD POINT ON NEGLECT THAT, I MEAN, I HATE THAT.
I DIDN'T BRING THAT UP HERSELF, LIAM AND CAMPUS PFA, MS. RABBI.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE, UM, GRAPHS, THE WORK ORDER STATS.
IF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS GONE UP AND THE NUMBER OF WORKERS HAS STAYED CONSTANT, HOW DOES THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE PER WORKER COME DOWN? I DON'T GET THAT.
NO, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT WENT DOWN BACK IN 2017, 2018, WHERE WE DID INCREASE WORKERS.
WE JUST NOT HAVE NOT INCREASED WORKERS IN THE LAST YEAR IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.
NOT RECENTLY HAVE WE INCREASED WORKER AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BETWEEN, UM, 19 AND IN OUR 2021, IT STAYS PRETTY FLAT.
SO WHAT ABOUT, SO WE HAD, UH, FEWER WORKERS IN 2011 THEN WHEN IT WAS WAY UP 2012.
WE ADDED MAINTENANCE STAFF, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2015 IS WHEN RIVER RIDGE OPENED.
WE ADDED MAINTENANCE THAT, THAT TIME IN 16, MY RIVER OPEN, WE ADDED SOME MORE PERSONAL AT 16, WHICH OF COURSE THAT SAME 16 IS A FYI 17.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT BIG DROP IS.
THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME MAY RIVER OPEN AND WE ADDED THE PERSONNEL.
SO WE ADDED A WHOLE DEPARTMENT.
WE HADN'T HAD PREVIOUSLY IN 2016 IS WHAT MR. MILLER WAS SAYING.
UM, WE ADDED A GROUND, UH, LANDSCAPING GROUP, UM, THAT PREVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, THAT ALLOWED WE WERE CONTRACTING MOST OF THAT WORK.
SO, AND JUST TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GROUNDS AND THE MAINTENANCE LANDSCAPE GROUP GROUNDS, THOSE WHAT'S REFERRED TO IN THE INDUSTRY IS MOGO BLOW.
THEY GO THE EDGE, THEY BLOW EVERYTHING OFF.
WE USE THE MAINTENANCE GROUPS FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS, TREE REMOVALS.
PONDS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FENCE LINES.
THE MORE INTRICATE, NOT REPETITIVE WORK IS WHAT MAINTENANCE DOES YOUR REPETITIVE WORK IS WHEN THE GROUND SCREWS, SNAP, UM, AND, AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACT OUT THROUGH THE DISTRICT OR JUST MAINTENANCE DIRECTLY WORK FOR THE DISTRICT.
SO MAINTENANCE IS A CONTRACT IN, UM, THEY'RE A CONTRACTED FIRM.
ABM IS THE FIRM WE'RE CONTRACTED WITH RIGHT NOW TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE SERVICES.
AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LABOR.
WE PAY FOR, UH, UH, ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS THAT ARE USED AND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'M, I'M A BIT CONCERNED, WAS LISTENING TO THE RESULTS AND LISTEN TO HOW YOU HA HOW WERE THOSE PRESENTATION AND REFERENCE TO THE BEGINNING? YOU SAID THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T GET A PAY INCREASE.
SO ALL THEY DID, THEY DIDN'T GET ANY BONUSES, BUT THAT, THAT THE BONUSES WOULD NOT COME FROM US BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTRACTED OUT, YOU'RE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH US.
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A BONUS THAT WILL COME FROM THEIR CONTRACT TO CORRECT, I'M AFRAID MS. SMITH.I DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR PAY.
I AT FIRST, AT FIRST, WHEN YOU, YOU SAID ALSO THAT YOU SAID THEY DIDN'T GET ANY BONUSES OR THEY DIDN'T GET ANY, UH, W WHEN YOU BEGIN YOUR, WHEN YOU BEGIN YOUR, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY GOT NO COVID YES.
ANY ART IS MORE TALKING ABOUT A EXPANSION OF THEIR NUMBERS OF PERSONNEL THAT WE DID NOT PROVIDE ANY COVID FUNDS FOR ANY KIND OF PERSONNEL EXCHANGE IS, IS WHAT, OKAY.
BECAUSE W W W W W WHAT I SEE AS IS THAT MAYBE WHO KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET THAT WE WOULD, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BUDGET FOR.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT CONCERN TO ME.
UH, BUT, BUT THEIR KIND OF THEIR CONTRACT OUT THEN THAT THEN THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY WITHIN OUR, OUR, UH, UH, UP ON US DIRECTLY AS A DO AS A DISTRICT.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYEES OF THE DISTRICT DISTRICT, TECHNICALLY SPEAKING.
IT SOUNDS LIKE NO, I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH YOUR POINT IS THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS.
IT MAY BE, IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS WHETHER THEY NEED TO ADD PERSONNEL THEIR CONTRACT.
WE TELL THEM HOW MANY PERSONNEL THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE.
SO, UM, THEIR CONTRACTS NOT SET UP THAT THEY JUDGE THE NEED.
I MEAN, THEY WOULD COME TO US AS A DISTRICT AND LET US KNOW THAT THEY THINK THEY NEED ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
AND, UM, WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO APPROVE THAT.
AND AS YOU SAY, HAVE THAT PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET FOR ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL NEEDS THAT MAINTENANCE HAS.
UM, BACK WHEN WE ADDED ANYTIME WE'VE ADDED MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL, UM, WE'VE HAD TO EXPAND THEIR CONTRACTOR, INCLUDE THOSE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
UM, W W W W WELL, THAT, THAT, THAT IS, UH, UH, ONE OF MY CONCERNS ALSO, UM, W W WHEN WE'LL, WHEN, WHEN WILL WE JUST, JUST I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ALL THOSE QUESTIONS TODAY, WHICH IS THIS UPDATE, OR IS THE RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACTOR I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE GOING? WHAT'S THE NEW RESULTS IN TODAY? THIS IS THE OPERATIONAL EXPECTATION.
THIS IS THE, UM, THE BOARD'S WORK THAT WE DO THE GOVERNANCE FORM.
BUT MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR, IS, IS THIS AN UPDATE, OR IS HE ASKING FOR, WHAT WILL HE BE ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN THE END OF, THIS IS MY QUESTION, BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT THEN THERE COMES TIMES RESTS THAT CERTAIN POINT IN TIME, SOMEONE MAY MAKE A MOTION TO ASK FOR SOMETHING, OR THERE MAY BE TIMES WHERE, WHEN THEY BRING THINGS BEFORE US AND, AND, AND, AND THEY WANT SOMETHING OUT OF IT AND SIDES, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS AN UPDATE, OR WHERE, W WHERE ARE WE HEADING? WHERE ARE WE GOING DOWN? EXACTLY.
SO JUST, JUST, JUST SO I CAN BE CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE PROCESS OF, UH, OF, OF THIS PRESENTATION TODAY.
SO, UH, THE CONCLUSION OF THIS REPORT, I'M ANTICIPATING THAT WE WILL HAVE A NOTION OF WHETHER OR NOT TO RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD ACCEPTANCE OF THIS OPERATIONAL EXPECTATION.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE TO YOUR POINT, MR. SMITH, IT'S ALSO THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. AUDITING, UM, WHEN HE WAS EXPLAINING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT MAINTENANCE HAS HAD TO PUT IN IS EQUAL TO TWO FULL-TIME WORKERS, BUT NO ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM IF HE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, OR ONE IS A FEEDBACK ON HER, HALF THE NEED TO HIRE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
SO IF YOU'RE FINISHED YOUR QUESTION AND I CAN GO ON TO THAT, OR WE CAN SEE IF YOU WANT SOME MORE CLARIFICATION ON YOUR QUESTIONING.
UH, YES, MA'AM, UH, ALONG WITH THAT, I, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, UM, UH, ALLOW THAT I WAS REALLY TRYING TO ALSO UNDERSTAND, UM, DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT CONTRACT? BECAUSE I WOULD, I THINK AT SOME POINT, I THINK THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE BOYS, UH, INTEREST TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME OTHER UNDERLYING THINGS THAT I THINK THAT, THAT AS A BOARD MEMBER, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN TO SEE THE RIVER, UH, HOBBIES, CONTRACTS, UH, SO POST SUPPORT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE DISTRICT
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DISTRICT DOES IN TERMS OF FINANCES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.I DO BELIEVE WE SAW THAT CON TRACK PROBABLY WASN'T ABOUT 16 MONTHS AGO, 18 MONTHS AGO, TWO YEARS.
AND THAT'S, I BELIEVE I REMEMBER THE REPORT ON, ON THAT CONTRACT, UM, MR. SMITH, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO VIEW IT, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A COPY THAT CAN BE VIEWED IF YOU FIND IT TO THE DISTRICT OFFICE, SIR, YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT.
IF YOU COULD PUT YOUR HAND DOWN, PLEASE.
UM, MR. RONNIE, SO WHAT ABOUT THAT QUESTION? ABOUT WHAT THROUGH YOUR ANALYSIS? WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? ARE YOU GOING TO, UM, DO YOU FEEL IT IS TIME AND WILL BE CONTINUED TO BE TIME? YOU NEED SOME? WELL, THAT, THAT, TO ME, IT WAS MORE OF QUESTION OF CONVERSATION.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE READING THE PPE FOR MONTHS OR YEARS TO COME? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WEATHER THIS STORM, YOU KNOW, UH, SHUT DOWN.
I MEAN, CAUSE IT IT'S BEEN TAKEN ON A WHOLE, ANOTHER FUNCTION OF WHERE ELSE DISTRIBUTION IS, WHAT IT'S BEEN, WHICH W ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING WORKED VERY WELL BECAUSE WE BOUGHT IN BULK, WE WERE SUPPLIED WITH MATERIALS BY THE STATE.
WE MADE SURE THAT WE GOT THAT OUT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS AS NEEDED.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, THAT WAREHOUSE IN THE EARLIEST STAGES, THE PANDEMIC, BUT WE COULDN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M SO GLAD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT OVER THERE AND WE'VE COMPLETELY PACKED IT WITH, OR AT LEAST HALF OF IT WITH, UH, PPE MATERIALS.
AND THAT REQUIRES MANAGING, YOU KNOW, THAT REQUIRES WHEN A 18 WHEELER COMES UP, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO UNLOAD IT.
SO THAT'S THE WHOLE IS GOING TO CONTINUE IN THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE KIND OF TRENDING DOWN WHERE SCHOOLS ARE.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT RIGHT NOW, UNLESS EVERYBODY FEELS THAT YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO CONTINUE.
AND I'M LIKE, IT'S GOING TO BE ON GOING ON FOR, IT ALMOST NEEDS TO BE GOING ON FOR YEARS.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T MAINTENANCE, DOESN'T RAMP UP PEOPLE AND RENT DOWN VERY EASILY.
AND I THINK THAT, TO BE HONEST, THANK YOU.
UM, I DO THINK THAT IT'S GETTING A LITTLE OUT OF SCOPE, THIS COMPLIANCE REPORT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING BACK AS SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM.
AND ACTUALLY TO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE US WILL GIVE US MORE, UH, UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE MOVE ON, THOUGH.
AND I'M AWFULLY GLAD THAT MR. EARL CAMPBELL IS ON THE LINE.
UM, BECAUSE I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE WORK ORDERS, UH, MR. EARL CAMPBELL AND I, AS PART OF THE NORTH ABROAD COMMITTEE HAVE, UM, VISITED, UM, EVERY SCHOOL NORTH OF ABROAD.
AND IN OUR VISITS, WE, UM, HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH PRINCIPALS ABOUT WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WORK THAT WAS COMPLETED OR NOT COMPLETED.
AND SO THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE WORK ORDERS CAME UP.
UM, AND SO I ASKED ABOUT THE PROCESS OF THE WORK ORDERS STAND.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD AFTER SEEING A PARTICULAR, UM, AREA AT LANEY MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT SUPPOSEDLY HAD BEEN PLATED THAT WAS NOT COMPLETED.
UM, I SAID, SO WHO SIGNS OFF ON THE WORK ORDERS DUE AT ONCE THE WORK ORDERS ARE COMPLETED? DOES THE PRINCIPAL SIGN OFF AND SAY, OKAY, THIS HAS DONE TO MY SATISFACTION, AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL OR SOMEBODY IN THE SCHOOL.
AND THE ANSWER WAS, AS I RECALL, AND I, I, I BELIEVE SOMEONE SAID THAT THEY'RE SIGNED OFF BY THE SUPERVISOR, THE SUPERVISOR.
UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE MR. CAMPBELL, IS THIS CORRECT? WE ASKED HOW MANY SUPERVISORS ARE THERE TO ONE NORTH OF BROAD, ONE SOUTH OF THE BROAD.
YES, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD.
AND MY CONCERN WAS THAT THEN WAS THAT, UH, IF THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES TO GET A WORK ORDER COMPLETED THE WORK COMPLETED MY S MY CONCERN MUCH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF, IF, IF YOU GET A MAINTENANCE, CANNOT GET IT DONE IN TIME, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY, COME IN AND DO THE WORK, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM THAT WE ARE HAVING IN THESE SCHOOLS.
AND I WILL GO FURTHER INTO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE,
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THE VISITS TO ALL THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S ISSUES, UH, AND SITUATION THAT SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE THEIR TRASH OUTSIDE THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL, LIMBS DOWN ON THE GROUND.AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. GAMBLE, AND TO THE WORK ORDER IN PARTICULAR THOUGH, IT, IT, UM, IT JUST KIND OF STYMIED US THAT THERE WASN'T A GILDING LEVEL PERSON THAT SIGNS OFF, UM, THAT THE WORK ORDER HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THE SATISFACTION OF THE, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PART OF THIS.
UM, OH, HE JUST SAY, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? WHY IS THERE A NEW BUILDING PERSONNEL THAT SAYS, YES, THIS IS THEN DONE FINISH IT WORKS NOW, OR IT'S FIXED, WHATEVER.
I GOT, UH, THE MAIN ONE IS THE WORKLOAD PROCESS THERE.
I THINK, UM, THE ROLE OF THE SUPERVISOR KIND OF WAS MENTIONED THAT MAY NEED TO TOUCH ON THAT USE OF OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS WAS MENTIONED, UM, THAT COVER WOULD COVER THOSE TOPICS.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK AT RANDY AND ED BRANDY.
YOU WANT TO TAKE THE, UH, WORK ORDER PROCESS.
AND DO YOU WANT TO TAKE HOW YOUR SUPERVISORS WORK AND WORK NUMBER
AND THEN WE ALSO ASK THOSE PATIENTS TO IDENTIFY A BACKUP USER THAT CONFIRMED THAT THE WORKFORCE, ONCE THOSE WORK ORDERS COME IN, THEY ARE UPLOADED INTO SCHOOLDUDE, WHICH IS OUR PROGRAM THAT WE USE OUR MAINTENANCE DIRECT MODULE.
WE'LL DO THOSE WORK ORDERS ARE RECEIVED INTO THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT WILL ASSIGN THEM OUT ACCORDINGLY TO, UM, WHATEVER THAT PARTICULAR CRAFT RESPECTFULLY NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
UM, OUR MANAGERS, STAFF WITH A BROAD, WE HAVE AN AREA MANAGER HERSELF WITH ABROAD AND A AREA MANAGER NORTH OF ABROAD.
AND THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS WERE WORKED THROUGH AS SIGNING THOSE WORK ORDERS AS THEY COME IN, AND THEN ALSO PRINTING THOSE WORK ORDERS OUT TO DISTRIBUTE OUT TO THEIR TECHNICIANS, TO GO OUT INTO THOSE FACILITIES AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE WORK ORDERS.
ONCE THE EMPLOYEES, UM, RECEIVE THOSE WORK ORDERS, THEY THEN TAKE THEM DO THE WORK THAT'S ASSIGNED.
UM, AND THEN THEY WILL SIGN OFF ON THOSE WORK ORDERS AND PUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY HAVE PUT IN TO COMPLETE THAT WORK ORDER.
AND THEN THEY WILL BRING THOSE WORK ORDERS BACK TO THEIR SUPERVISORS.
THEIR SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS WILL THEN REVIEW THOSE WORK ORDERS AND THEN GO INTO THE SCHOOL DUDE'S SYSTEM MAINTENANCE DIRECT TO ADD THE ACTION INFORMATION, AS FAR AS WHAT WAS COMPLETED ON THAT WORK ORDER.
UM, AND BASICALLY GO INTO THE SYSTEM UPDATE THAT WORK ORDER, WHETHER IT'S BE TO COMPLETE IT OR TO CHANGE WHATEVER STATUS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THAT PARTICULAR JOB.
SO IN THAT PROCESS, I'M HEARING THAT THE, UM, AGAIN, THERE WAS NOBODY AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL THAT SIGNS OFF THE ACTUAL MAINTENANCE PERSON THAT IS FIXING THAT PROBLEM SIGNED OFF, GIVE HER HERSELF.
NOW WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DO AT THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY ARE SERVICING IS TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE, AND THE REQUESTER OF THAT WORK ORDER OR WITH THEIR FRONT OFFICE ADMIN SLASH PERSONNEL, TO UPDATE THEM AS TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE AS FAR AS COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETING THE SERVICE.
SO THERE'S MORE OF A VERBAL CONVERSATION AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL.
AND THEN THE REQUESTER THAT ACTUALLY INFLICT THAT REQUEST.
INITIALLY THEY WILL GET A NOTIFICATION WHEN THAT WORK ORDER STATUS IS CHANGED.
SO ONCE IT'S ASSIGNED THAT REQUEST OR GETS NOTIFICATION FROM SCHOOLS SAYING YOUR WORK ORDER HAS BEEN ASSIGNED, UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO WILL GET A NOTIFICATION WHEN THE WORK WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
SO THERE ARE EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE'LL DO, WE'LL SEND OUT
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TO THE REQUESTER.SO THAT PERSON THAT PUTS THAT WORK ORDER IN KNOWS THAT THAT STATUS OF THE WORK IT HAS CHANGED.
THOSE ARE OUR TWO POINTS OF CONTACT.
THE TECHNICIAN HAS BEEN ASKED TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL OR GO TO THAT FACILITY FRONT DESK OR ADMIN AND SAY, HEY, I'M HERE.
UM, SO THERE'S ONE POINT OF THAT COMMUNICATION THAT IT'S POSTED FOR.
AND THEN THE SECOND IS OUR SCHOOL B MODULE IS ACTUALLY SENDING A NOTIFICATION EVERY TIME THE WORK ORDER STATUS CHANGES TO THE REQUEST OR THAT PUT THAT WORK ORDER IN.
SO LIKE THEY SAID, THAT SAY THAT IT'S COMPLETED, RIGHT.
THEY WILL SEND IT IF THERE'S ANY STATUS CHANGE.
SO IF IT GOES FROM NEW, SO WORK IN PROGRESS, THEY'LL SEE EVERY TIME THE STATUS CHANGES IN THAT WORK ORDER.
SO WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, THEY'LL GET A NOTIFICATION FROM SCHOOL DO THAT SAYS IT'S COMPLETED AND WHAT ACTION, THE TAKER COMPLETED AGAIN TO THE MAINTENANCE PERSON SATISFACTION, NOT TO A SCHOOL-BASED PERSON SATISFACTION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THERE WAS NO SIGN OFF AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL.
UM, I, I'M GLAD THAT THE STATUS IS BEING COMMUNICATED, THEN THE REQUEST DRIES UP A VIEW INTO THE STATUS CHANGES.
CAUSE I THINK THAT WAS AN ISSUE A FEW YEARS BACK, BUT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU CAN'T CLOSE A WORK ORDER WITHOUT THE SIGNATURE OF THE, THAT ISSUED THE WORK ORDER.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE I'VE EVER BEEN, THAT THAT'S BEEN THE PROCESS OF THE PERSON THAT MAKES THE REQUEST ULTIMATELY HAS TO SIGN OFF AT THE REQUEST WAS SATISFIED.
SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE MAKE THAT CHANGE.
UM, IT MIGHT, MIGHT ELIMINATE SOME ISSUES.
UH, YES, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR.
AND THE PRINCIPAL SITTING THERE WONDERING WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FINISH IT? AND I AGREE WITH WHAT MR.
AND, AND ISN'T, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT CAN AFFECT THE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT MUCH CLOSER.
SO IF I CAN, I, I LIKE, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN JUST A MINUTE.
UM, I WOULD JUST THROW OUT THERE THAT I HARDER ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS BURDEN THE SCHOOL, UM, MANAGING WORK ORDERS.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, BECAUSE SOME SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING, IF THEY SIGN OFF, WHAT I'D RATHER, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON IS WORK ON THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND THE TEACHERS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS BRANDY'S ROLE IS GOING TO ALLOW HER TO DO IS VISIT SCHOOLS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
TALK, GIVE PRINCIPALS A LINE OF COMMUNICATION.
SO WHEN THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS AND SHE CAN BE DEDICATED THAT TO GO OUT AND SOLVE LIPS AND FIND OUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
UM, I'M, I'M FEARFUL THAT THE SCHOOL HAS TO SIGN OFF ON WORK ORDERS.
THAT'S COMPLETELY MASSIVE BURDEN ON THE SCHOOL STAFF, BUT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO WHEN WE GO OUT AND ONE MORE QUARTER MAY BE TO REPLACE, UH, YOU KNOW, 20 AIR CONDITIONING FILTER UNITS UP THERE.
NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO ASK A LITTLE STAFF TO GO UP ON THE ROOF AND CHECK 20 DIFFERENT AIR CONDITIONING UNITS TO MAKE SURE IT FILTERS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.
THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN THAT IS THAT GIVING THE PRINCIPAL, SOMEONE TO TALK TO WHEN THEY HAVE ISSUES SO THAT WE CAN RUN DOWN THOSE ISSUES AND
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RESOLVE THAT, THAT I FULLY ACKNOWLEDGED WE NEED TO WORK ON.AND THAT'S WHAT RANDY'S ROLE IS GOING TO BE IS TRIED TO FACILITATE THAT INGRID NICE BELT, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, HANG OUT.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT WITH THE WORK ORDER PROCESS WITH SCHOOLS IS THAT MAINTENANCE IS ALIVE.
THERE'S A LOT OF LIABILITY IN VERIFYING THAT MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN PERFORMED, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT IF A PRINCIPAL SAID, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S OSHA AND YOU'VE GOT KIDS.
AND IF A PRINCIPAL SAYS, OKAY, THIS HAS BEEN MET TO MY SATISFACTION.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE LIABILITY THAT THE SCHOOL WILL BE TAKING ON.
BUT I DO THINK WHAT I, WHAT I HEAR FROM BOARD MEMBERS IS THAT THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE SCHOOL.
UM, AS FAR AS IF SOMETHING'S DONE, IF IT'S NOT DONE.
AND I WILL SAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A POSITIVE NOTE THERE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WORKS WITH MY CLUSTER, HE HAS ALL THE SCHOOLS.
THEY JUST THINK HE'S REALLY THIN.
SO THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER PART OF THE SOLUTION IS HAVING MORNING OF STAFF AS OPPOSED TO TAKING ON THE LIABILITY, BACK INTO THE SCHOOLS.
BUT I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MECHANISM WHERE CERTAIN THINGS, IF THE PRINCIPAL NEEDS IT NOT DONE TO THEIR SATISFACTION, LIKE TRASH REMOVAL OR A TREE BRANCH, THAT THEY CAN ESCALATE IT.
NO, I, I WAS GONNA SAY, NO, I AGREE.
THAT'S WHAT I, I, I'M NOT TRYING TO RUN FROM THE ISSUE I DRINK COMPLETELY.
WE NEED TO GIVE PRINCIPALS SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN BRING THESE ISSUES TO WORK.
UM, AS FAR AS THE SIGN-OFF GOES, YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING TO THEM, YOU'RE ALREADY EXPLAINED TO WHAT WAS DONE.
I, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNATURE INDICATES THAT THEY'VE HAD IT EXPLAINED TO THEM AND THEY'RE SATISFIED.
I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ROBERT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT JUST CLOSES THE LOOP AND YOU DON'T HAVE THESE INCOMPLETE THINGS THAT SEEM TO BE BUGGING US.
UM, SO I JUST, I WOULD STAND PRETTY FIRM ON HAVING A PERSON SIGN OFF IF EVEN IF THEY'RE JUST SIGNING OFF THAT THE, THAT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO THEM, THE 14 AIR FILTERS WERE PUT IN.
IT WAS EXPLAINED TO THEM AND THEY ACCEPT THE EXPLANATION.
UM, I THINK WE'RE MAKING IT INTO A BIGGER DEAL THAN IT MAY BE.
UM, YES, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANYONE, UH, FROM THE STAFF GO UP ON THE ROOF AND LOOK AT THE DEAD CONDITION OR LEAK, BUT IF SOMEONE COMES OUT THERE AND SAY THEY REPAIRED IT AND THEY STILL HAVE THE PROBLEM, THEN THAT PERSON SHOULD COMPLAIN, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
UM, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH MR.
AND IN FACT, I THINK THAT WILL BE LESS WORK BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ALREADY ACTIVELY ENGAGED TALKING TO SOMEONE, SEEING WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
AND ALSO THEN THAT WOULD ALSO LET US MESS IN THE PRINCIPALS WORKING EVERYONE ELSE, BECAUSE THE, UH, UH, I'VE, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PHONE CALLS ABOUT WORK ORDERS, UH, SAYING THAT THE EGRESSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE NOT FIXING UP, WE'RE NOT FIXING THE CLASSROOM OR THINGS WERE DONE.
AND SO WHAT THAT DOES IS I THINK THAT IS JUST QUICK.
AND IS THIS A SIMPLE STEP AS I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU HERE, I'M COMPLETELY, THIS IS WHAT I DID.
I SIGNED OFF WHEN I WAS THERE.
I DIDN'T HAVE TO TRACK A PRINCIPAL DOWN.
AND THEN I LOOKED IT UP AND LOOKED FOR THE ONE, WHOEVER WORKOUT IS THERE AND WHO, WHOEVER, WHOEVER THEY'RE DOING IT FOR THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AND THEY HAVE DONE IT.
AND ALSO THAT CREATES A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND, AND, AND THAT, AND THAT'S CLEAR.
I MEAN, SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH SCRIPTURE, UH, ON THAT BECAUSE, UH, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY DOABLE AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT HARD TO EXTEND IT.
IT DOESN'T CREATE A, UH, IT DOESN'T CREATE, CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK AT ALL.
IT'S SIMPLY, YES, I'M HAPPY WITH IT.
I'M A LITTLE DISCREDITED WITH IT.
I THINK WE DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AT ANOTHER TIME, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE BIGGEST DEAL.
I DO THINK I AM HYPER AWARE OF LIABILITY BECAUSE WHEN YOU WORK IN HEALTHCARE, YOU ARE HYPER-AWARE OF LIABILITY.
AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY WE'VE HIRED OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR.
I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
I'M NOT SURE I'M RIGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM A PARENTAL STANDPOINT, IF MY CHILD WAS INJURED BY A FALLING CEILING TILE, THAT IS PRINCIPAL SIGNED OFF AS REPAIR, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUE THE SCHOOL.
UM, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL, CAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL THE LIABILITY COULD BE USED FOR REPAIRS OR WITH OUR, OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR.
IF WE START SIGNING OFF ON REPAIRS BEING COMPLETED, I'M NOT
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SURE I'M RIGHT.BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST LOOK AT THE LIABILITY OF THE SCHOOL WILL BE TAKEN OUT.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE BRING THIS UP IN A FUTURE MEETING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A BIG DISCUSSION.
WELL, I JUST, UM, I WOULD THINK IF, IF YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD, PRINCIPALS NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, I'D WANT TO HAVE
UM, I, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN TERMS OF SIGNING OFF IN THE JOB IS COMPLETED, UH, HAVING MORE OR LESS OF ALSO A SIGN THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COMPLETION.
THE SUPERVISORS STILL CAN COMPLETE IT, BUT IT SIGNING OFF SAYING THAT YES, THEY WILL EITHER.
THEY HAPPY WITH IT, THEN I HAVE TO USE IT.
OR, YOU KNOW, UH, THE PR THE PROBLEM IS IT'S STILL OCCURRING OR YES.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY WEREN'T BEING CHECKED OUT AS, AS MR. KENT, MR. CAMPBELL.
I THINK IT WAS MORE ALONG THE LINES THAT THEY DO HAVE A VOICE IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY SEE THE WORK AS KIND OF, UH, W W WHATEVER THE INFANTS FOR THIS IS, THERE'S BROKEN.
YES, THE GUY WAS HERE AND THERE, HE FIXED THERE, OR HE ATTEMPTED, THAT'S ALSO A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THAT'S A TRACKING TO SEE THE SUCCESS RATE AND TO SEE ALSO, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON VERSUS A SURVEY WHERE SOMEBODY MAY FILL IT OUT, WHICH THEY MAY NOT.
NOW YOU HAVE A DAY TO DAY TRACKING AND UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT IS TAKING PLACE.
SO I JUST AGREE, AS IN, UM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT, OH, IT'S DONE COMPLETELY.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING, OH, THAT ALWAYS DONE THIS THING.
WELL, YES, SOMEONE WAS HERE, THEY WORKED ON IT.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT APPEARS TO, I'M SATISFIED WITH IT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WORD, IT DOESN'T HAVE, THE WORD DOES NOT HAVE TO BE COMPLETE.
IF I SATISFIED WITH LESS SATISFIED WITH IT, STILL CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
MAYBE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
THEN, THEN THE SUPERVISOR WOULD NEED THAT.
HE WOULD KNOW THAT HE, OR SHE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK OUT THERE.
I THINK THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE WORDING THAT WE USE.
SO I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THE TEACHERS, THEY, THEY DO MATTER AND THEY ARE THE ONES ON THE POLICE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CALLING THESE THINGS IN AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE REPORTING, NOT ALWAYS THE ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS TOPIC, UH, HAS GENERATED A LOT OF IDEAS.
UM, AND THE REASON MR. PAM, UM, IN OUR VISITS WANTED TO BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE IF YOU SEE THERE'S A PROBLEM, THERE'S A, FAR-FLUNG IN THE CLOSING OF THE LOOP.
I UNDERSTAND MR.
UM, UH, I THINK YOU BRING UP ANOTHER POINT.
IT SHOULD, UH, INVOLVE SOME OF WHAT, WHAT THE SCHOOLS LOOK FOR, BUT WHAT MR. EARL CAMPBELL AND I WERE HEARING IS THAT THE WORK ORDERS ARE BEING SIGNED OFF AND WORK WASN'T DONE COMPLETELY, OR, AND THEN, OH, WE'LL PUT ANOTHER WORK ORDER IN, SO JUST NEEDS TO BE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ADD A LARGER CONVERSATION DAVIS.
I SAW THAT INSTEAD OF ADJUSTING.
THE LAST QUESTION WAS, UM,
MAYBE WE'LL AND EARL, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS JUST ME.
I WAS, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME THING, BUT I WAS THINKING MAYBE IT WAS MY DEVICE OR SOMETHING, BUT NO.
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OKAY.SO, UM, HAPPY DAVID, MR. CAMPBELL, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR US? YES.
SO THE ROOM, THE ROOM DOES NOT HAVE THE MICROPHONE ON.
IT'S JUST MY INDIVIDUAL COMPUTER.
UM, SO DAVID, I'M GOING TO REITERATE WHAT I WAS SAYING.
AND, AND, UH, THE VISITING OF THE SCHOOLS, MR. EARL CAMPBELL, AND I SAW A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT HAD TO DO WITH LANDSCAPING AND TREE REMOVAL, UM, BUSH HOGGING.
AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT IS A SEPARATE THING.
SO NOW I UNDERSTAND, I THINK THAT IN 2016, THAT WAS THE LANDSCAPING GROUP THAT WAS ADDED.
SO THERE WAS AN AREA AT JAMES DAVIS THAT SUPPOSEDLY FOR SITE OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN BUSH HOGGED.
UM, THERE ARE LIMBS DOWN, ALL AROUND WHALE, BRANCH, NETTLE.
AND SO WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS THE TYPE OF THING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH THIS LANDSCAPING GROUP, PUT A WORK ORDER IN.
SO I GUESS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST, UM, ISN'T ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE TYPE OF WORK ORDERS THAT DON'T SEEM EITHER TO BE COMPLETED, OR NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS.
UH, MR. MILLER IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT THE, THE BUSH HOGGING.
WE TRY TO DO THAT, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO DO SOMETHING.
IF HE'S TALKING, WE DEFINITELY CAN'T.
WE CAN HEAR IT, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR HIM BEND DOWN AND NOBODY WENT,
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WE'RE GETTING BACK ON THAT.BUT FOR THAT TO BE ONGOING, UM, THE MORE BLOW CREWS, IF THEY'RE IN THESE AREAS, THEN WE'LL PUT THEM IN THAT'S HOW THAT, OKAY.
SO I BELIEVE SOME OF THAT PROCESS, UM, HAS FALLEN APART BECAUSE IN SPEAKING WITH THE PRINCIPALS, THEY WILL SAY, WELL, WE, WE ASKED THE, THE GROUNDS, THE LANDSCAPERS TO DO IT.
AND THEY SAY, THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT WE'RE CONTRACTED TO DO.
SOMEBODY ELSE IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
SO THERE SEEMS TO BE A GREAT DEAL OF LACK OF COMMUNICATION OR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHO HAS RESPONSIBILITY, AND THEN IT'S NOT GETTING DONE.
SO, UM, THE 15 OR 17 SCHOOLS THAT MR. CAMPBELL AND I VISITED, THIS WAS A, UM, A COMMON REFRAIN IN THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE GREATLY WOODED, YOU KNOW, LADY'S ISLAND, MIDDLE WHALE, BRANCH, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO MR. EARL CAMPBELL, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, NO, I, WELL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, THAT, UM, HIS FATHER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ANYBODY THAT'S ON ZOOM.
CAN YOU HEAR ALL THIS? OKAY, CANDICE, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
MEAN, I CAN JUST ON THE DROWNS CONTRACTOR, SOME CONTRACTORS OUT THERE WORKING
THAT WAS THE LOW BID SAID THEY TRIED TO BID IT AND THEY DIDN'T WANT, THE WORK HAS BEEN SITTING THERE.
THEY SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON THEIR FARMERS' EQUIPMENT BEFORE THEY WERE ON OURS.
WE FINALLY LOOKED AT SOME, SO, UM, IT'S BEEN, AND OF COURSE THE SCHOOLS ARE YELLING AT US TO GET WORK DONE.
SO THAT'S BEEN A VERY BIG FRUSTRATION FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE IN THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE ZERO TURN NOW TO DO SOME OF THE WORK.
SO, UM, IT'S JUST, THAT IS A KNOWN ISSUE.
THAT IS A VERY BIG FRUSTRATION FOR US.
SO WE JUST NEEDED TO FIX SOME.
AND SO AT WHAT POINT THOUGH, DO WE JUST OUTSOURCE THAT IF WE'RE JUST WAITING ON EQUIPMENT? YEAH.
OLIVER'S OLIVER'S BRANCH MIDDLE OR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION TO DO THAT.
SO YES, WE'RE HAVING TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE PAIR THAT ALLOWS US.
WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM THIS CONVERSATION IS THERE'S CONCERN THE MAINTENANCE, UH, OUR GROUNDS AND THE MAINTENANCE, SO, OKAY.
UM, MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, UM, YOU MIGHT WANT TO PACK COMPLETELY AROUND WITH THE SMITH.
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, SIR, BUT MY, I NEED TO TURN MY SPEAKER UP SO WE CAN HEAR YOU CAUSE IT'S COMING THROUGH MY COMPUTER.
NOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY, WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK, YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THE MONEY.
OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS YOUR COMPUTER AROUND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM BECAUSE WE CAN BARELY HEAR THEM BECAUSE THEY TALK A LITTLE LOSS.
WE CAN BARELY HAVE THEM WHEN THEY'RE TALKING.
YES, MR. OTTING WAS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND I DID HAVE MY COMPUTER, UM, RIGHT NEAR HIM, BUT I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, WE'RE TRYING, MOLLY'S TRYING DESPERATELY TO GET US BACK UP INTO THE, THE ROOM SPEAKER.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK MR. AUDITING TO CONTINUE AND I WILL GIVE HIM MY COMPUTER TO SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE.
YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THE PRESENTATION ROBIN, IF
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YOU COULD MOVE ON TO THE MAINTENANCE.SO WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO, UM, THE MAINTENANCE SURVEY PORTION, ME GET MY PAPERS.
AND, UM, SO I KIND OF FORECASTED ALREADY WHAT THE RESULTS WERE GOING TO BE.
UM, AND WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE RESULTS, UH, AND SEVERAL ITEMS BELOW.
HOW WELL DO YOU BELIEVE YOUR SCHOOL'S BEING MAINTAINED? RAY, YOUR TECHNICIANS, KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR PROBLEM RATE STAFF ON BEING PROACTIVE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. DO YOU FEEL THAT MAINTENANCE STAFF IS KNOWLEDGEABLE ON HOW TO MAINTAIN YOUR BUILDING? IS THE MAINTENANCE STAFF WORKING EFFICIENTLY IN YOUR BUILDING AND ARE THE WORK ORDERS COMPLETED? THE EXPECTATION.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE TYPICALLY HAS VERY HIGH, UM, SCORES ON THESE BEING THREE OR HIGHER.
AND YOU'LL SEE ON THIS, THAT ALL OF THESE EXCEPT ONE ARE PRETTY MUCH LOWER THAN THREE THEY'RE IN BETWEEN 2.5 AND THREE WAS THAT, WHICH IS AT THE LOWEST LEVEL THEY'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY.
SO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE ARE BEING REFLECTED IN THIS SURVEY.
FIRST OFF, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
WE'RE AT SAY THE WORST POINT THAT MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN IN, UM, AS FAR AS SURVEY RESULTS.
UM, AND THE ONLY ONE ABOVE THREE WAS, DO YOU FEEL MAINTENANCE? STAFF IS KNOWLEDGEABLE ON HOW TO MAINTAIN YOUR BILLS.
SO CAN YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE, HOW WE, HOW THEY'VE RATED IN THE PAST, THE NEXT PAGE WITH FRAUD.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE A TEACHER SURVEY.
UM, WE SENT THIS OUT TO THE TEACHER FORUM AND ASKED FOR THEM TO RESPOND.
THE INTERESTING THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS THAT, UM, THEIR RESPONSES ARE EXTREMELY SIMILAR TO THE ADMINISTRATIONS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THEY MIRROR EACH OTHER.
AND IN THIS CATEGORY, THE TEACHERS WERE ACTUALLY A LITTLE SOFTER OR NICER THAN THE ADMINISTRATION IN HOW WELL MAINTENANCE DID, WHERE YOU SEE THAT THREE OF THOSE ITEMS WERE ABOVE A 3.0 AND THE REST OF THEM WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO 3.0, EXCEPT THE, HOW WELL DO YOU BELIEVE YOUR SCHOOL IS BEING MAINTAINED, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE 2.5 RANGE.
UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS.
THAT WAS GOOD TO SEE IS THAT IN ALL CATEGORIES YOU CAN SEE IN ALL THESE SURVEYS THAT THE TEACHERS WERE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH.
UH, AND I THINK A RE UP NOW OR OKAY.
OR THE TEACHER SURVEY WAS IN LINE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION SURVEY.
AND LET ME JUST NOTE, I CALL IT THE ADMINISTRATION SURVEY.
THESE ARE SENT TO ALL PRINCIPALS, BUT PRINCIPALS, UH, TYPICALLY EITHER DO IT.
WELL, THEY MAY DO IT THEMSELVES.
THEY'VE ASSIGNED IT, THE OFFICE MANAGERS BOOKKEEPERS, AND I'VE EVEN HEARD THEM SIGNING IT TO THEIR SIC CHAIRS.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO FILLED OUT THE ADMINISTRATION SURVEY, THE TEACHER SURVEY, WE IT'S, WHOEVER THE PRINCIPAL ASSIGNED IT TO, BUT THE TEACHER SURVEY, WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN, THOSE WERE ALL TEACHERS THAT, UH, HAD THE RESPONSE THERE.
SO I MAY PAUSE YOU FOR A SECOND.
IT IS MOLLY MAY BRINGING US UP AND I'M NANNY TRICIA TURN OFF MINE'S AND STUFF.
EVERYBODY, I THINK WE WERE BACK ON KEN.
PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU CANNOT HEAR US USE THEIR AUDITING HAS JUST GIVEN US THE ADMINISTRATION SURVEY AND THE TEACHER SURVEY AND WAS ASKING HER ANY QUESTIONS, MR. SMITH, TWO MORE PEDICURES.
MR. SPANN, MR. AUDIT HAS TO WORK OF AND DUMBLEDORE WITH THE QUESTIONS.
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THE LAST CATEGORY IS CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONSES.UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT RATES THE CUSTOMER SURFACE OF THE DIRECTOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR THAN THE MANAGERS.
UM, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE, THE TECHNICIANS, AND IN THE LAST TWO ITEMS ARE RESPONSIVENESS TO WORK ORDERS AND THEN ALSO EMERGENCY WORK ORDERS.
AND WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS NOT LOST MY, UM, ON THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE.
AGAIN, YOU SEE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION SURVEY THAT, UM, THERE'S DROPPED IN THREE OF THE FIVE CATEGORIES ARE ACTUALLY THREE, FOUR OF THE SIX CATEGORY.
UM, YOU DROP BELOW THE 3.0 A BIT ABOUT 2.5.
AND, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO OF THE CATEGORIES WHERE YOU'RE EITHER AT THREE OR SLIGHTLY INVOLVED.
UM, AND SO IF YOU MOVE ON TO THE TEACHER SURVEY, YOU SEE IT'S SIMILAR.
UM, THEY'VE GOT, UH, THREE OF THE RESPONSES ABOVE 3.5, ACTUALLY IN THE OTHER TWO OR NEAR THREE.
SO AGAIN, ON CUSTOMER SERVICE, RESPONSIVENESS, THE TEACHERS DID RATE MAINTENANCE PERFORMANCE, ACTUALLY THAT'S A GOOD RATING OR WHAT WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO SEE.
AND, UM, UH, SO THE TEACHERS DID RATE CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN ADMINISTRATION ON THAT CAMPUS.
SO WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE, ALTHOUGH, UM, FOR, I TAKE QUESTIONS, ED, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT Y'ALL ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH? UH, OUR PLANNING TO, IF I NEED TO COME OFF THE TABLE.
IT WERE ABLE TO SAY, ANYTHING CLARIVATE DURING OUR LAST CLIENT REVIEW THAT WE HAD WITH THE DISTRICT, AND IT WAS NOT A GOOD THING TO SAY ABOUT LIKE THERE WAS WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
UH, SO MYSELF AND AN ART CORPORATE, WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO ONE THING WE'VE BEEN DOING WE'VE COVERED ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO, WE WERE DOING WHAT WE CALLED SITE SURVEYS AND FOR MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS FOR AWHILE.
AND THEY JUST EYES AND EARS LOOK AT THE FACILITIES AND THEY FILL OUT THE SURVEY.
IT JUST SHOWS THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GIVING SOME FEEDBACK AND, AND, UH, I CAN ELABORATE ON MORE ON THAT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY 10 POINTS.
THEY PICKED MON, THEY GO AROUND THE SCHOOL AND THEY RATE IT.
AND THE OBJECT IS NOT TO COME BACK WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THE OBJECT IS TO FIND DEFECTS, TO FIX THOSE DEFECTS.
AND OVER TIME YOU START ELIMINATING THINGS.
AND ALSO YOU TAKE YOUR PEOPLE WITH YOU TO SHOW YOU WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
AND THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS THAT SAME MINDSET.
THE SECOND THING WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING, AND I JUST GOT WITH TECHNOLOGY TODAY TO GET A MAILBOX, WE'RE GOING TO BE HANDING OUT CARDS TO SOME OF THE WORKFORCE SAYING YOU DO A WORK OVER IN A ROOM WHERE THERE'S A SPECIFIC PERSON.
UH, AND THEN YOU WILL LEAVE A FULL QUARTER RESPONSE CARD ASKING THAT PERSON, ARE THEY HAPPY WITH WHAT WAS DONE? IT WAS COMPLETED, NOT COMPLETED.
AND AS THE TECHNICIANS NAME ON IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BUY-IN ON THAT.
AND ALSO IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN EMAIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE EMAIL US, LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WE'RE SEEING IS AGAIN, THE REQUESTER GETS A RESPONSE BACK SAYING THE WORK IS COMPLETED, THE TEACHER OR THE PERSON THAT PUTS IT INTO THE REQUEST, OR THEY NEVER GET ANY NOTIFICATION.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT MAY HELP CLOSE THE LOOP AND BRING SOME OF THAT AROUND.
ALSO, ALL OF MY MANAGERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE POINTS OF CONTACT IN THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THE FENDER MEETING, WHETHER IT'S WEEKLY, MOST OF THEM ARE EVERY OTHER WEEK.
SOME ARE MONTHLY TO WHERE THEY CAN GO OVER WHAT WE CALL THE OPEN WORK OR WORK.
AND THIS WAY YOU'RE SITTING DOWN ONE-ON-ONE WITH AN AP OR WHOEVER IS THE MAINTENANCE FOCUSED PERSON IN THAT SCHOOL.
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WHAT'S OPEN.AND THEN ONCE THE TIMEFRAME IS FOR COMPLETION AND ALSO PRIORITIZATION, BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG PART.
YOU MAY HAVE PUTTING UP TAX DRIPS, WHICH EVERYTHING'S IMPORTANT, BUT IF YOU HAVE BASIC BALL AND HER KIDS OR THINGS, NOT WORKING, THAT'S ALWAYS A PRIORITY AND FIX THOSE SAFETY FOR WHAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON.
UH, BUT THAT'S HOW MY MANAGERS PRIORITIZE WORK ORGANIZATION.
SOMETHING, IS THAT A SAFETY OR COULDN'T BE A CONCERN.
WE TRY TO PUT THAT TO THE TOP OF THE LEDGE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF SAFETY THINGS, OTHER THINGS TEND TO FALL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.
UH, SO I THINK BETWEEN THOSE FEW THINGS, I THINK, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, WE DO 23,000 WORK ORDERS A YEAR AND GETTING A SIGNATURE ON ALL OF THEM WOULD BE A LARGE TASK.
UH, NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
I'M JUST SAYING IT WOULD BE A LARGE TASK.
SOME OF THEM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S PROBABLY NEEDED.
UH, ANOTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS WHEN I CREATE A USER OR REQUEST YOU'RE IN SCHOOL, DUDE, WE CAN CREATE AT A SITE OF SITE ADMINISTRATOR.
AND THAT PERSON HAS THE CAPABILITY OF LOOKING AT ALL THE WORK ORDERS SUBMITTED FOR THAT SCHOOL.
SO IN THAT THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE STATUS OF EVERY WORLD WAR THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED OR HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
UH, HOWEVER, THEY WON'T LOOK AT IT AND WE'LL DO IT AS A VERY USER-FRIENDLY AS FAR AS IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ONCE YOU GOT TO DO IS PICK UP THE PHONE, THEY'LL TELL YOU HOW TO RUN A REPORT OR HOW TO MANAGE THE WORK ORDERS.
I DO IT FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN I GET STUCK ON SOMETHING AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT 10 YEARS AND I JUST CALL THEM UP WITH NAYSAYERS, OH, WELL YOU CAN DO THIS OR YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
SO THEY'RE VERY, AND I'M NOW REFERRING TO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MILLER.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSIVENESS TO THE CONCERNS AGAIN, CAUSE WE, WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, THE VIDEO, THE AUDIO, THE VIDEO AUDIO OF THE ROOM HAS GONE.
WE ALL TURNED OFF OUR VIDEOS SO THAT WE WERE HOPING IT WAS QUITE A HELP WITH THE INTERNET CONNECTION STABILITY.
UH, HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE.
HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS JUST SPEAKING.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. SMITH.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY OURSELVES BEFORE SPEAKING.
WELL THAT CONCLUDES WHAT WE HAD ON, UM, MAINTENANCE.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO OTHER DISTRICT MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS? ARE THEY EXPERIENCING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING BECAUSE OF COVID AND STANFORD? HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK I HAVE NOT.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE REACHED OUT A HUNDRED AND TRANSPORTATION SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE AS FAR AS STAFFING, BUT OKAY.
THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I'LL MOVE ON TO CUSTODIAL.
UM, SO WE START OFF WITH JUST SOME, UH, NICE PICTURES OF A CLAIM FORM FROM THE SUMMER CLEAN.
A NOTE THAT THIS SUMMER CLEAN WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS, THAT WE DID NOT FULLY STRIP AND WAX ALL FLOORS WE BOUGHT AND CODED FOURS.
AND THAT MEANS THIS KIND OF BOOK.
WE BOUGHT THEM AND THEN PUT EXTRA COATS OF WAX ON TOP OF THAT, THAT WAS JUST DUE TO THE SHORT AND SUMMER AND WHAT WE WERE DOING, YOU KNOW, THE TIMEFRAME, UM, INCREASED SANITATION.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A PICTURE OF WHAT THE HALO MISS LOOKS LIKE, THAT'S WHAT THAT MACHINE IS THERE.
UM, WE CONTINUING TO, UH, PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO ALL TOUCH POINTS.
WE STILL HAVE OUR ADDITIONAL DATE ORDERS IN OUR SMALLER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
SO WE CAN MANAGE THOSE TOUCH POINTS AND EXTRA AREAS.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COAST, UH, CUSTODIAL SURVEYS.
THESE ARE SET UP IN THE SAME FORMAT.
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ADMINISTRATION SURVEYS AND THEN THE TEACHER SURVEYS YOU'LL NOTE THAT, UM, THEY'RE IN MOST OF THESE CATEGORIES, THERE'S A SLIGHT FALL FROM PREVIOUS THAT I WILL SAY EVEN WHERE WE ARE NOW, IF YOU LOOK HISTORICALLY TO OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE OUTPERFORMING ANY OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMANCE AS THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR HAD.SO, UM, THEY ARE DECLINING AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WATCH, BUT THEY'RE STILL FAIRLY HIGH WHERE I SAID MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, 3.0, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE BELOW CUSTODIAL USUALLY, UM, IS GOOD TO GET A 3.0, YOU'RE VERY, AND THEN 2.5 IS WHERE IF IT STARTS TO DROP UNDER THAT, YOU START TO HAVE CONCERNS.
SO THIS FIRST YOU SEE SET UP VERY SIMILAR AS THE COURTESY OF THE DISTRICT MANAGER IN THE AREA LEVEL MANAGERS IN SCHOOL STAFF, UH, RESPONSIVE STAFF REQUESTS, THE OVERALL QUALITY OF THE CLEANLINESS OF YOUR SCHOOL, AND THEN THE COVID, UH, DISINFECTING PRACTICES.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE ACTUALLY THE FIRST THREE WERE ABOVE 3.5 FOURTH ABOVE THREE.
AND THE LOWEST OF ALL IS THE COVID DISINFECTING PRACTICES WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HAD ONE OF THE LARGER JUMPS.
AND THEN IF YOU FLIP TO THE TEACHER SURVEYS, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE STILL JUST IN LINE, UM, 3.5 AND ABOVE FOR THE FIRST FOUR.
AND THEN THE LAST TWO IS WHERE THEY FALL OFF.
BUT MAYBE LIKE THE COVID FOR TEACHERS IS NOT QUITE AS FAR DOWN AS IT WAS FOR ADMINISTRATION, BUT IT'S STILL A LOWER SCORE.
WE SHOULD BE MOVING ON TO, UH, ENTRANCE WAYS AND IN FALL WAYS.
UM, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE REPETITIVE FORMATS FOR DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT MASS GLASS, WINDOWS OF WATER, FOUNTAINS, DUSTING FLOOR CARE WALLS, THE RESTAURANTS, AND ALMOST ALL OF THE SCORES FOR INSTANCES AND HALLWAYS WERE NEAR 3.0.
SO WE CONSIDER THAT VERY GOOD ON THE CUSTODIAL SIDE, THE TEACHER SURVEYS VERY SIMILAR, ALL RIGHT.
AROUND 3.0, MOVE ON TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
AND OTHER OFFICER IS YOU SEE THERE AGAIN, HOWEVER, IN YOUR 3.0, AND ACTUALLY JUSTIN IN FURNITURE WITH HIGHER IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THAT ACTUALLY IMPROVED OVER THE LAST TIME.
MOST OF THE REST OF THEM ON A DECLINE, BUT STILL VERY GOOD TO BE NEAR THE TEACHER SURVEY, VERY SIMILAR RESULTS, RIGHT? HAD A 3.0, MOVE ON TO CLASSROOMS ADMINISTRATION SURVEYS.
WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A DROP GETTING CLOSER TO A 2.5 ABOVE A 2.5 IS GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND YOU GO TO THE TEACHERS KNOW, WELL, HOW DID THE TEACHERS RATED THE CLASSROOMS LESS THAN ADMINISTRATION? THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WHERE TEACHERS SAW THAT THE CLASSROOMS WERE NOT AS CLEAN AS THE ADMINISTRATION PARTICULARLY LEADS THE DUSTING AND FURNITURE WHERE YOU SEE A DROP, A LOAD 2.5.
UM, THE GOOD, THE RESTAURANTS, UM, GETTING CLOSE TO THREE CLASSROOMS, MOVE ON TO MEDIA CENTERS.
UM, EVERYTHING CLOSE TO A 3.0 WITH THE TEACHER SURVEY FOR MEDIA CENTERS AND EVERYTHING CLOSE TO 3.0, MOVE ON TO MULTI-PURPOSE ROOMS, ALL ITEMS RIGHT AT 3.0, UM, TEACHER SURVEYS, A LITTLE BIT OF A FALL OFF FROM THE BLEACHERS.
BUT BESIDES THAT EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE, NO CAFETERIA ALL RESPONSES NEAR 3.0 TEACHER, SAME ALL RESPONSES.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE CUSTODIAL SURVEY.
I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS, BUT MR. RYAN, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, UH, THE INTERPRETATION WOULD DISCUSS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF THE PERCENT OF RESPONSES, RIGHT? AND WE WERE, WE DISCUSSED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR RESPONSES.
WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE RESPONSE THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM YOUR PRINCIPALS OR THEIR DESIGNEES? UM, THERE HAD BEEN CONVERSATIONS PREVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, GETTING HIGH IS 90% AND THE GOAL AND WHERE WE ARE HERE AT 67% AND ON THE TEACHERS, UH, 63, I'M SORRY, 63%.
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THAT, WE DID NOT, UM, WORK ON THAT.I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SIT AND WRITE UP LETTERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DANGER TO THE PRINCIPALS TO TELL THEM WE'RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND THEY HAVE TO RESPOND SO THAT THAT'S, WE NEED TO GIVE THEM NOTIFICATION THAT, UH, US IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THESE RESPONSES.
AND WE DID NOT DO THAT THIS TIME.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE WE'LL LOOK AT DOING NEXT, IN CASE INSURER, WE GIVE PRINCIPALS WARNING LETTERS AND THEN LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE ACTIONS TAKEN IF THEY DO NOT RECEIVE.
SO, UM, THIS, YOU SAID THE SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED SEPTEMBER CLAMBERING.
AND THAT'S NEAR THE START IS
AND I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD, WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE NINE NEW PRINCIPAL POSITIONS OR ANYTHING, A PRINCIPAL POSITION.
SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT THE GOAL WAS, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES WITH A PRINCIPAL TURNOVER.
UM, AND, UH, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE 63 BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE RIGHT LAST YEAR WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THIS WAS DOWN BELOW 40, UM, WE'VE BEEN IN THE ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER GOTTEN THAT 60, 50 TO 60.
SO THEN THERE, EVEN SINCE THERE WAS NO INCREASE.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE NAME PRIESTS.
UM, BUT WE NEED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE ACTIVE ROLE TO GET THAT NUMBER OF, I THINK SINCE OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACTS ARE SO LARGE, UH, THEY, THEY AFFECT EVERY ASPECT.
EVERY PERSON THAT WORKS IN THIS DISTRICT, THAT THE COMPLETION OF THE SURVEYS REALLY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BASED ON SOME OF THESE SURVEYS.
MR. SMITH, UM, I HAVE GOTTEN SEVERAL PHONE CALLS FROM DIFFERENT TEACHERS AND, UH, SAYING THAT, UH, CONCERNING WITH CUSTODIAL SERVICES.
UM, SO IT DOES SPEAK TO SUCH A, SUCH A, SOME DEGREE, REAL OF WHAT WAS SAID TODAY.
BUT, UM, I MEAN, THIS IS, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS DEFINITELY A, UM, IMPORTANT ROLE OUR COMPONENT AND, AND, AND, AND SERVING THIS DISTRICT, UH, IN WHICH THE TERMS OF OUR FACULTY AND STAFF AND STUDENT SAFETY, UH, WITH HEALTH ISSUES AND, AND, AND, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, MAY OCCUR.
SO I, I, UM, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET HELP GET AS MUCH AS FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE ALL CAN BE, EVERYONE CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE, THAT WE ARGUING THE SERVICES THAT, THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR.
UM, I AM, I I'VE HAD SOME, I WOULD SAY BASICALLY THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE CALLED ME, I'VE BEEN VERY COMPLAINANTS IN IT.
THEY HAVE LEFT CERTAIN THINGS ON THE TRASH CAN AND SEE THEIR TRASH HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT WELL, THEY'LL PUT UP A BLUE PENCIL IN THEIR TRACKS TO SEE IF IT'S TAKEN OUT AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR HER FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY DUE TO COVERT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING TAKEN, THAT THAT'S BEING DONE THAT IS BEING, UM, HANDLED.
AND I ALWAYS TELL THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY LET THEIR ADMINISTRATION KNOW AND GO FROM GULF, GO FROM THERE AND TRY TO REDIRECT THEM.
BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY SOME, UH, UH, THIS DEFINITELY SERIOUS.
I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, BUT I WOULD THANK THEM WHEN WE LOOK AT 60% OF PEOPLE RESPONDING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TAKE THIS INFORMATION, IS THIS GOSPEL, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE WAITING AGAIN FOR US TO KNOW WHAT'S REALLY ACCURATE IN TERMS OF THE, THE REAL FUNCTION ABILITY OF THE CUSTODIAL STAFF, BECAUSE LESS THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ONE THIRD IS WHERE THESE NUMBERS WILL GO UP OR DOWN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE RESPONDED TO A SURVEY FOR YOU TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED AS IF, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, BUT WITH DISBAND THAT MAKE, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE REASONABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ABILITY TO POLICE, BUT I CAN ACCEPT THAT NUMBER YES.
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PICK ME, PICK ME.UM, I HAVE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE RESPONSE BECAUSE WORKING IN DATA AND I JUST PULLED THIS UP, UH, ACCORDING TO SMART SURVEY, GOOD EMPLOYEE RESPONSE RATE RUNS BETWEEN 30 AND 40% TO GET ABOVE 50% ON A SURVEY RESPONSE IS, IS EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD.
AND IT'S PROBABILISTIC THINKING, NOT IT'S NOT GOSPEL IN ANY WAY.
IT'S A, IT'S A PROBABILISTIC VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER.
I MEAN, TO ME, WHEN I SAW 63%, I WAS LIKE, SHOOT, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE MOST SURVEYS, YOU LOOK AT POLITICAL SURVEYS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LESS THAN 10% PARTICIPATION.
SO FOR AN EMPLOYEE SURVEY TO COME BACK ABOUT 50%, IN MY OPINION IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY STRONG, THAT'S NOT THE SAME CONSERVATIVE YEAH.
EMPLOYEE SURVEY FOR WHAT KIND OF JOB AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SURVEY IN TERMS OF THE WORK QUALITY THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU.
AND IT IS PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE SEMI MANAGEMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THAT'S SERVING TO BE A LOT HIGHER THAN THE PRESIDENTIAL SURVEY OR ANY OTHER KIND OF SURVEY.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE QUALITY WORK AND WHAT'S BEING DONE IN TERMS OF YOUR EXPECTATIONS, AND LET'S BE DONE, THAT IS A LOT HIGHER THAN 60%.
I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE RESPOND TO RELATABILITY IS CLEAN OR NOT.
SOMETIMES THE TEACHERS, ALL ADMINISTRATORS.
UM, YEAH, JUST MY 2 CENTS HERE.
UM, IF PEOPLE ARE REALLY, UH, UPSET WITH THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT THEY'RE GETTING, THEY'RE GOING TO RESPOND THAT, UH, SURVEY, IF THEY'RE FEELING LIKE IT'S ADEQUATE, THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO S TO RESPOND JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCES, UM, IN ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE THROWN TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE A BUILDING ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, UM, WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF COMPLETING THESE SURVEYS THAT THE PRINCIPALS OR THEIR DESIGNEES, UM, NEED TO PROVIDE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION.
SO I KNOW MR. AUDIENCE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK HARD ON INCREASING THAT RESPONSE RATE.
ANYTHING ELSE? I'M SORRY, MR. SMITH.
I ACTUALLY, UH, I DO AGREE WITH MR. CAMPBELL, BUT, BUT ALSO AGREE WITH HIM.
THE QUESTION ALSO, THE QUESTION ALSO PIQUES MY MIND TOO, IS HOW DO, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING THE SURVEYS? I MEAN, SO THAT'S THE, THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS OUT THERE IN REFERENCE TO THESE SURVEYS AND RUBBER PEOPLE.
SO I, UH, I, I HEAR WHAT I HEAR WITH, UH, WHAT SOMEONE SAID IN THE ROOM, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY GETTING, THEY'RE GETTING A CERTAIN BEGINNING OF SERVICE AND ALSO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY FEEL IF THEY DO THE SURGERY, THAT SOMETHING WILL ACTUALLY COME UP, COME ABOUT FROM ACTUALLY FILLING OUT THE SURVEYS, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT FOR SOME, YOU SAID, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SURVEYS? AND WE FILLED THEM OUT, BUT NOTHING NEVER HAPPENS.
SO, I MEAN, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY, THOSE ARE WHOLE BUNCH OF, MAYBE WE WANT TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT HAD NOT DISCUSSED TODAY AS WELL IN TERMS OF SURVEYS.
AND I MEAN, THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE OF COVERT CLEANING OF THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, I WAS HOPING TO AT LEAST HAVE 85% OF SURVEYS FILLED OUT.
SO I DEFINITELY AGREE, MR. KIM, WHAT I'M ONCE AGAIN, DEFINITELY STILL CONCERNED.
WELL, THE THING I'LL SAY IS, I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HOSPITAL SURVEY AND A MANDATORY SURVEY AND AN OPTIONAL SURVEY RESPONSE GOES TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHO, LIKE I SAID, LIKE MS. ROMANZA, WHO WANTS TO, IF WE WANT HIGHER THAN 63%, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO MAKE IT MANDATORY.
AND SOMEONE HAS TO CHASE THEM DOWN AND MAKE SURE THEY'VE SUBMITTED IT.
AND IT HAS TO BE, WE HAVE TO SWITCH GEARS.
CAUSE I THINK FOR AN OPTIONAL SURVEY, 63% IS EXCELLENT FOR A MANDATORY SURVEY.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT IF YOU, IF YOU MADE IT.
AND THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT POLICY, I ASSUME.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP TALKING ABOUT THESE SURVEYS, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SCIENCE TO SURVEYS.
AND SO, UM, THIS BOAT RIGHT, IS CORRECT.
50% IS A PRETTY AMAZING RESPONSE RATE.
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ASSUMPTIONS YOU CAN MAKE ABOUT THE NON-RESPONDERS, WHICH MS. ROBIN TOUCHED ON, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY IS IN THAT FIELD AND THEY CAN TELL US WHETHER, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT'S ADEQUATE OR, OR RIGHT OR WRONG.BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN JUST TRY TO INCREASE IT AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT KEEPS INCREASING, THEN WE'RE HAPPY.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, A 90% RATE WOULD BE UNHEARD OF.
UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU MAKE SOMETHING MANDATORY THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON YOUR, UM, RESPONSES ALSO.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY IN HERE KNOWS ABOUT SURVEYS.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S A SCIENCE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OFF THE CUFF STUFF.
UM, AND THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO US WHETHER WE'RE RIGHT OR WRONG ABOUT OUR EXPECTATIONS
SO IN CLOSING, UH, MR.
UM, UM, I'M EXCITED TO KNOW ABOUT THE NEW ROLE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A STEP FORWARD, UM, I'M WAS CONVEYED TO MR. MILLER ALSO HOW, UH, THOSE THREE STEPS THAT YOU DECIDED AS FAR AS, UM, TRYING TO INCREASE THE COMMUNICATION WILL BE MUCH APPRECIATED.
AND WE HOPE TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE WILL EFFECTUATE SOME CHANGE.
SO AT THIS TIME, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION TO BRING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD? YES.
I MOVE THAT THE, UH, OPERATIONS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TO THE FULL BOARD, UH, OH, E 8.6, ACCEPTANCE OF IT.
ACCEPTANCE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OPERATIONS, YOU DON'T RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD, THE ACCEPTANCE OF 8.6 MONITORING REPORT, PERIODIC MONITOR.
IF I WRITE THEM, WE HAVE A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS, OH, WE HAVE TEEN SAFETY AND SECURITY.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UM, BOARD MEMBERS.
IF YOU WOULD FINALLY ALLOW US TO ADDRESS AR ASSESS 47 INDIVIDUAL HEALTHCARE PLANS, INDIVIDUAL PLANS THIS AS A COMMITMENT, SHE USED THREE 30.
I'M MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH TIME.
IF YOU ALL WOULD AGREE TO REMAIN, I BELIEVE WE PROBABLY NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA, THE AGENDA, THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
SO AR S S 47 AND THEN WE'VE GOT HEALTH CARE PLANS, INDIVIDUAL QUICK PLANKS.
THANK YOU F UH
I WANTED TO THANK MISS UNRUH AND THE, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON MAKING REVISIONS TO THIS ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION.
UM, AS A RESULT OF CHANGES IN THE MEDICAID LAW, THEY'RE NOW REFERRED TO AS INDIVIDUAL TREATMENT PLANS AS WELL.
WE HAVE ADDED SOME DEFINITIONS AS YOU'LL SEE IN ROMAN NUMERAL THREE, IT'D BE INSANE.
WE HAVE CITED THE SELF-ADMINISTRATION MEDICATION, WHICH PROCEDURE IS THERE'S A STATUTE 59 63 8.
AND WE'VE PROVIDED FOR YOU ALL THROUGH YOUR REFERENCE ON THE CENTER, MS. STODDARD, AND VERY HELPFUL, AND, UH, DESIGNATING THE IMPORTANCE OF MEDICATION, UH, HAS TO BE INAPPROPRIATE RETAINER NOTABLE BY THE PHARMACIST.
UM, THE DOCUMENTS HAVE TO BE KEPT ON FILE IN THE OFFICE SCORES, ADMINISTRATOR AND AUTHORIZATION CAN BE REQUIRED BY THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN TO SHARE INFORMATION
WHITE ON THIS, UM, AND, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT SORT OF ON THE ROOM.
NUMBER SEVEN, IF THE SECTION FOR ACCOMMODATIONS PLANS CONTAIN THE COMPONENTS AS IHP IN IT, HOW WE ALL, AND THE SCHOOL
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NURSE MUST BE INVOLVED IN THE APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL OF THIS 5 0 4 PLAN.WE HAVE ADDED SOME REFERENCES.
THE SOUTH COUNTY COTA REGULATIONS, THE SOUTH CARE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL HEALTHCARE PLANS.
AND THEN THE BEAVER COUNTY SCHOOLS, COHERENCE GOVERNANCE MANUAL COLUMN CONTAINS OUR NEW POLICIES AS MR.
AND MS.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROTOCOLS, UM, THEY ARE LISTED HERE AND THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, SO THE, I H ARE WE GOING TO THE IET NOW? I ITP.
DO YOU HAVE TO, SO THE ITP IS PART OF THE 5 0 4 OR THE IEP, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO YOU CAN HAVE AN ITP WITHOUT HAVING A CLIMBER, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
ARE THERE ANY PROOF, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS FOR AN EYE.
SO CAN YOU, I GUESS, EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY QUESTION IS.
MY QUESTION IS FOR SELF-ADMINISTRATION MEDICATION, CAN ANYONE GET THAT? WHERE DO YOU, IS IT ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS AS DEFINED? I'M GOING TO PICK THIS UP, SO I'M NOT RUFFLED, SORRY.
UM, ANYONE CAN HAVE, UM, UH, SELF MONITORING SELF-MEDICATING PAPERWORK.
THE, UM, THE, THIS FIRST PAGE HERE HAS TO BE FILLED OUT AND THE DOCTOR LOOKS OVER IT.
THEN THE FOLLOWING PAGES, THERE'S A PAGE THAT THE PHYSICIAN HAS TO FILL OUT.
THE STUDENT HAS TO FILL OUT AND THE PARENT HAS TO FILL OUT, UM, THESE MEDICATIONS FOR SELF-MONITORING SELF-MEDICATING INDIVIDUALS ARE NORMALLY, UM, FOR ASTHMA INHALERS, THEY'RE FOR EPI PENS.
AND THEY'RE USUALLY FOR DOT THAT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THEIR MEDICATIONS.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANOTHER MEDICATION, BUT WE DO NOT ALLOW ANY STUDENTS TO SELF MONITOR OR SELF-MEDICATE THEIR ADHD MEDS THAT'S IN THE NURSE'S OFFICE.
OR IF THEY'RE ONCE A DAY, THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN AT HOME ON A DAILY BASIS.
I'M A BIG CONCERN WAS, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS UNUSUAL BECAUSE WHAT I RAN INTO HIM OR WHERE I READ IT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE SOMEBODY THREE TIMES A DAY, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE IT AT SCHOOL MORNING AFTER YOU'D BE RIGHT FOR THE AVERAGE PILL.
SO THERE ARE PROBABLY VERY FEW SCENARIOS WHERE SOMEONE WOULD REQUEST SELF-ADMINISTRATION OF MEDICATION.
IS THAT NOW, NOW FOR NOW FOR DIABETICS? OH, NO, NO, NO, WE DON'T REALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY, HONESTLY, NOBODY DOES SHARE.
IN MY EIGHT YEARS OF BEING HERE HAVE SEEN THAT STUDENTS CARRY THEIR UNHEALTH.
I MEAN, AND THEY CAN'T CARRY ANY OVER-THE-COUNTER MEDICATIONS AT ALL.
THAT'S PROHIBITED BECAUSE WE CARRY THAT IN OUR OFFICE.
SO SAY YOUR DAUGHTER WANTED TO TAKE MY DOG.
WE HAVE IBUPROFEN OR TYLENOL THAT YOU WOULD HAVE DESIGNED THE HOUSE FOR.
NOW, IF YOU DECIDED I REALLY WANT MY DAUGHTER TO HAVE THIS, MY DOG, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE PHYSICIAN AND GET THIS BUILD-OUT HE'S GOING TO, HE, OR SHE'LL HAVE TO SIGN IT.
AND THEN THE, MY DOG I'LL HAVE TO GET A PRESCRIPTION LABEL FROM THE PHARMACY.
AND IT IS KEPT IN THE NURSE'S OFFICE, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WITH THE ABUSE OF PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION AND A REAL SCORE HIGH FOR LEVEL, PARTICULARLY THE KIDS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SELF-MEDICATE ANY AMPHETAMINES, ANY ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND THE ANTI-ANXIETY.
SO THAT'S, CAUSE IT'S NOT ANYWHERE IN OUR POLICY DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE NEVER, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, UM, THAT'S TOO DANGEROUS IF WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE TAKING SOMETHING, BUT THEY'RE SELF MONITORING SELF-MEDICATING SO, UM, FORM A NURSING STANDPOINT, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS PAPERWORK BEFORE THEY CAN SELF MONITOR OR SELF-MEDICATE OKAY.
WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THIS PAPERWORK BEFORE WE CAN.
THIS PIECE OF PAPERWORK, RIGHT? THE TOP ONE, BEFORE WE CAN ADMINISTER MEDICATION ON A DAILY BASIS OR, YOU KNOW, SO, SO WE DO NOT EVEN.
SO IF YOU BROUGHT IN IT AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS PAPERWORK AND YOU WANTED A HANDMADE EPI PEN OR THE ADHD PILL BOTTLE, WE'RE GOING TO SAY YOUNG, AND THEN ENOUGH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE FIRST.
THEN YOU CAN BRING THE MEDICATION BACK.
ALSO, PARENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE THE MEDICATION BOTTLES, WHICH THEY DO SOMETIMES, BUT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO TO THEIR STUDENTS
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TO PUT IN THEIR BACKPACK TO TAKE ON THE BUS OR A CAR RIDER.NOW, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO RUN IN, WE'LL RUN OUT TO THEIR CAR AND MEET THEM.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE THIS SIGN AND GRAB THEIR MEDICATIONS, JUST NUCLEAR, NO TIME OUR KIDS ALLOWED TO CARRY THEIR OWN ADHD, ANTIDEPRESSANT PAIN MEDICINE.
AND IF THEY ARE ON PAIN MEDICINE, THEY CAN'T BE AT SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT'S ANY OF THE THINGS OR WHAT IF THEY FALL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE AT SCHOOL ON A NARCOTIC BECAUSE THEY JUST HAD SURGERY.
THAT'S WHY THEY'D HAVE THAT INTERMITTENT HOME BOUND.
JUST, I MEAN, I DO FROM THE BOARD'S AWARENESS, A THIRD OF IVY LEAGUE STUDENTS WHO HAVE USED AMPHETAMINES LIKE ADDERALL FOR STUDIES IN ADDITION TO XANAX IS THE NUMBER ONE, TEENAGE ABUSE DRUG.
SO THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS WAS THAT IT WAS GOING TO LEAD TO PEOPLE CARRYING PILL BALLS AROUND, UH, NOW IN ONE OF THE THINGS, CAUSE WE'VE GOT THIS QUESTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY WANTED US TO ADMINISTER BIRTH CONTROL.
AND IF YOU READ THIS, IT SAYS WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADMINISTER BIRTH CONTROL PILLS AT SCHOOL.
I THOUGHT YOU GUYS TOOK IT OUT OF THIS.
MOST RECENT, THEY CAN REJECT THE REQUEST FOR CERTAIN PATIENTS COULD BE GIVEN AT SCHOOL, RIGHT.
BIRTH CONTROL PILLS, OR WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ISSUE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT AS A ONCE A DAY MEDICATION.
AND OF COURSE, IF YOU READ THIS, IF ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE HEALTH MONITOR TRANS I'VE USED, OKAY.
THEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE THAT AWAY.
AND, AND, AND I'M GOING TO KNOCK ON WOOD.
WE'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THAT, BUT IF WE DID, WE'D DEFINITELY WOULD, IF SOMEBODY WHIPPED OUT AN EPI PEN AND SAID, OH, HERE I'LL, YOU KNOW, OR, OR SOMEBODY SAYS YOU CAN USE MY INHALER, COULD YOU'RE SHORT OF BREATH.
THEY LOSE THAT ABILITY TO CARRY THAT MEDICATION.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE BECAUSE WHEN THIS FIRST CAME, CAN SHAUN OF US, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS.
SO I THINK IT HAS BEEN CLEARED UP THE QUESTIONS MOSTLY WERE ABOUT SELF-ADMINISTERING AND THEY NEVER CARRIED THE MEDICATIONS.
SO, UM, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK FOR CHANGE OR OUR STUDENTS AND FOR YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR DILIGENCE.
I'M SORRY, MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I ACTUALLY NOT TO HAVE A COMMENT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK HER AND HER STAFF FOR AS, UH, UM, THEY JUST SAID, UH, FOR HER NOW LOSE HER DOJO AND WORK HER DEDICATION AS NURSES IN COMING IN, UM, MAKING SURE DAY-IN AND DAY-OUT GOING THROUGH THE COBRA EXPERIENCE THAT YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN, HAD BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE.
SO FOR THE DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.
WE KNOW IT'S BEEN EVEN BEEN, UH, TIMES WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT ON YOU AND YOUR PERSONAL FAMILIES AND THE HOURS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN.
SO I DEFINITELY A WHOLE HOLLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.
UM, THE WORDS CAN'T EXPRESS HOW MUCH I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, AND, AND, UH, AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY DO THAT.
I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL COMMENTS AND, UH, AND WORDS OF APPRECIATIVE AS WELL, UH, ABOUT THAT.
SO I JUST WANT TO EXTEND THAT, YOU KNOW, A MOM, SO YOU GOT TO GIVE, GIVE GOOD NEWS SOMETIME TOO AS WELL.
I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.
AND, UM, MR. SMITH, IN THIS REGARDS TO EXPRESS ALSO, THANK YOU BETTER.
ARE YOU OKAY IF WE HAVE, SORRY.
IF YOU CAME THROUGH THIS, OH, B NUMBER 15, SAFETY AND SECURITY, THIS IS THE INITIAL FOR YOUR ALL REVIEW BECAUSE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY IS PRESENTED.
THE MONITORING COMES LATER THIS YEAR AND MR. GARRISON AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TOGETHER AND MR. GRISSOM HAD TO UNEXPECTEDLY BE CALLED TO A HEARING TODAY, SO HE'S NOT PRESENT WITH US.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I DID WANT TO POINT
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OUT THAT UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT THAT THERE IS CERTAIN INFORMATION RELATING TO SECURITY PLANS AND DEVICES, UM, THAT IS CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC IS, IS NOT CONSIDERED OPEN TO THE PROBLEM UNDER FOYA, BUT THIS REPORT CONTAINS INFORMATION THAT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND THIS ALL CAN TO ALL SO THE, AND FOLLOWING THE FORMAT THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED FOR OPERATION EXPECTATIONS, UM, 15.1 ENSURE EACH SCHOOL HAS A DEDICATED, TRAINED, CERTIFIED SECURITY PERSONNEL AND A DISTRICT WIDE SAFETY AND SECURITY DEPARTMENT.I DON'T WANT TO READ ALL THIS TO YOU, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU I'M RUDE.
I HAVE GREAT NEWS FOR Y'ALL BECAUSE WITH RESPECT TO THE ARMED SECURITY GUARDS IN OUR SCHOOLS, UH, PROTEST PERIOD, WHEN THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING WEEKLY MEETINGS AND THEY ORDERED THEIR UNIFORMS AT ALL, THEY'RE COMING IN OF THE WEEK OF WEEK OF NOVEMBER 1ST, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THE SUN TRAINING AND ALL OF THOSE AWAY.
AND THEY PAID 40 COME DOWN TO LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS NOW, BUT THIS IS JUST GOING TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
WE ALREADY HAD SOME, YEAH, WE ALREADY HAD SOME SECURITY SRO WAS IN SELLING SCHOOLS.
SO I'M VERY THANKFUL ON BEHALF OF, YOU KNOW, DR.
GRIEVOUS, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FUND THAT BECAUSE SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
AND MR. GRISSOM, HE IS TRAINED IN FBI, GRADUATING CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICER.
AND HE DOES MEET WITH, THEY PUT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AS HE'S AT THE SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME.
WHENEVER WE GET AN EMERGENCY AS PART OF THIS JOB, UM, AND MONITORING INDICATORS FOR COMPLIANCE, WHEN WE PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OR THE BEATINGS TRAINING T'S ATTENDED THE EXPERTISE COORDINATED WITH, AND THEN YOU HIT WHEN THE SECURITY GUARDS AND SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN TRAINED, AND THE SROS ARE ALREADY TRAINED, WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE SECURITY NURSE TRAINED NEXT.
SO THE NEXT PART ABOUT THE DISTRICT, UH, COMPLETING SURVEYS ABOUT ENHANCING THE SCHOOL CLIMATE AND TO EMPLOY PROGRAMS FROM BUTTONS PREVENTION, BULLYING, PREVENTION TRAINING.
I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT THIS MONTH OF OCTOBER IS BULLYING PREVENTION MODEL IN THE SPRING IN OUR TEAM, THEY WILL, THEY'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND FOR OUR STAFF, WE DO HAVE THAT, SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING HAPPENS ON ALL OF THE STUDENTS' DEVICES, BECAUSE WE WANT REPORT IMMEDIATELY.
IF THERE BEEN ANY THREATS OF INTIMIDATION, HARASSMENT, AND BULLYING AND STOP IT BASICALLY.
UM, ALSO, UM, MS. SWINTON AND HER TEAM HAS AS WELL AS OTHER DISTRICTS THAT THEY WORK WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, SUCH AS HOPEFUL HORIZONS.
WE'VE MENTIONED THEM HERE, MENTAL STRENGTH CLUB, STRENGTHENED, EMPOWERMENT, GIRLS CIRCLE, AND COUNTS FOR BOYS AND MEN WHO SAID IT'S TO DEVELOP A PARTNERSHIP IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
OUR TEAMS HAVE HAD PROGRAMS TO PARTICIPATE IN, AND THAT EMPOWER THEM THAT ARE POSITIVE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY COULD BE SUBJECT TO TEMPTATION.
SO, AND MR.
WE DID THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A TECHNOLOGY THAT GAG WILL TALK.
SO IT PICKS UP WORDS FOR SELF-HARM TO HELP US WITH THAT.
AND THAT INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE PROVIDED REPORT ON THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT THE DISTRICT DOES WITH A SMALL, TIGHT DISCIPLINARY THREAT ASSESSMENT TEAM, UM, THEY ALL HAVE ALL THE SCHOOLS HAVE GOT THEIR PLANS AND PROCEDURES, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL BEEN VERY WELL AWARE OF SOME OF THE INCIDENTS THAT UNFORTUNATELY OCCURRED AT OUR SCHOOLS, AND THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.
AND THE CRISIS FANS, BELIEFS, UH, GO INTO EFFECT.
AND THAT TEAM GOES RIGHT OUT THERE AS SOON AS SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.
AS YOU SEE, IT SAYS DIRECTORS TO SERVICES, PROTECTIVE SERVICES, SCHOOL COUNSELING, UM, THEY RESPOND WHENEVER WE HAVE A CRISIS AT OUR SCHOOL AT ANY OF OUR SCHOOLS.
AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION THAT THERE'S ANNUAL TRAINING COMPLETED BY DISTRICT STAFF EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN THE THREAT ASSESSMENT PROTOCOL.
THOSE THINGS ARE REVIEWED EVERY YEAR.
AND IN THIS LB, SOME OF THESE ITEMS KIND OF LIKE OVERLAPPED WITH EACH OTHER.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, 15.5 AND 15.6 AND 50.7, THEY ALL HAD TO DO WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AND THAT PLAN IS THE DISTRICT PLAN.
IT'S LIKE, I THINK IT'S, WE'RE 240 PAGES.
AND EVERY YEAR THAT PLAN IS REVIEWED AND IT IS UPDATED.
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AND THEN AFTER THAT HAPPENS, THE FIRE MARSHALL AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY, THEY WOULD FEEL IT AND HAVE THIS TO IMPROVE IT AND TO MAKE IT BETTER.AND YOU ALL AWARE OF SOME OF THE THINGS.
SO WE WERE WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
SO WE'RE ALL IN SYNC WITH EACH OTHER IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY.
AND EXCUSE ME, MR. CARTER, MR. GARRISON'S RESPONSIBILITIES IS THAT HE HAS A CHECKLIST THAT HE GOES OUT TO SCHOOLS, UM, AS WELL, HE'S DONE IT IN OUR BUILDING HERE, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS HOW, HOW VULNERABLE IS OUR, OUR SCHOOLS.
SO HE IS WHEN HE GOES, HE'S LOOKING, YOU KNOW, JUST ANYBODY HAD LIKE A DOOR, LIKE PUT SOMETHING IN THE DOOR TO KEEP IT A JABBER SO PEOPLE CAN SNEAK IN.
IS THERE ANYTHING, NO, THE SIGNS IN THERE PROPERLY SECURITY IS A VISITOR SIGN.
AND DOES THAT MEAN FLOWER APPROPRIATELY? THE VISITORS IN THE HALL, DO THEY HAVE AN ID ON HIM? AND HE LOOKS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BIONICLES AND CRIME REPORTING, THE LIGHTING JUST CHECKS THOSE THINGS.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW THIS AS PART OF A REFERENDUM, WE'VE REALLY IMPROVED THE, OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE CAMERAS, UM, THE WAY THAT WE'RE CONSTRUCTING OUR FACILITIES, IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT MUCH.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MORE VIDEO, THE MORE CAMERAS NOW, AND WE GET MORE ANGLES AND IT'S HELPED A LOT WHEN WE'VE RECEIVED OUR SUBPOENAS.
UH, THERE'S, IT'S A CLASS EVIDENCE VERY ACCURATELY.
UM, SO MR. MR. GRISSOM WILL PRESENT HIS READINESS AUDITS TO YOU ALL, AND THEN THE TRAINING.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MR. GRISSOM WORKS VERY HARD ON EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE TO START TRAININGS EVERY YEAR, AND OUR DISTRICT ACTUALLY, UH, COMPLETES TRAINING AND EXCESS OUT.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY FOR, UM, IT'S NOT ONLY, IT'S NOT ONLY FOR SAFETY AND THE JUDICIAL SENSE, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR, IN THE AREA WHERE WE LIVE SEVERE WEATHER DRILLS.
SO HURRICANES ARE FLAKES, WINTER PREPAREDNESS, FLOODS, TORNADOES, EVEN, AND ALL SCHOOLS HAVE TO SEVERE WEATHER DRILLS.
EACH SCHOOL HERE, AGAIN, THE 15, 20 CONFERENCE OF TRAINING, BUT WE DO THE VACUUM.
WE DO THE LOCK DOWN, WE DO THE, UM, AVOID DEFY, AVOID DIDN'T HAVE DEFENSE.
WE HAD THE RAPID RESPONSE TRAINING, UM, MR. GRISSOM, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE SCHOOLS DO THIS TRAINING EVERY YEAR.
AND IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE ARE PREPARED BECAUSE IT'D BE AN EMERGENCY.
WE HAVE TO BE TRAINED SO YOU CAN REACT.
YOU GOTTA BE PROGRAMMED, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY TO DO.
AND AGAIN, 15.9, IT'S AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT THE, NOT THE EXERCISES THAT ARE COMPLETED EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN AFTER YOU HAVE THESE TRAININGS AND DRILLS THAT HELPS YOU REVISE YOUR SCHOOL'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANNING.
AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AFTER EVERY ONE OF THESE THAT YOU HAVE AN AFTER ACTION FOR IT, YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE DO WRONG? WHAT COULD WE HAVE DONE BETTER? WHAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE THIS WORK BETTER, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN AGAIN, THAT EMP IT'S VERY DETAILED.
IT'S GOT THE LOCKDOWN EVACUATION, FIRE AND ARSON BOUND THREATS, POWER FAILURE, FALLING AIRCRAFT FIREARMS AT SCHOOL, CAMPUS, DEATH ON SCHOOL, PROPERTY, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL ACCIDENT.
SO THOSE HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, UM, WE HAVE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FROM TRAINING, BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE TRAININGS AT XS WITH ELECTRICAL.
WE HAVE THE AFTER SHOOTER EVERY THREE MONTHS.
AND MR. GRISSOM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING DOCUMENTATION DODGE.
I BELIEVE THAT SEASONAL ALLERGIES SET THIS UP EITHER.
I CALL TACKLED AND COVID FREE.
COVID FREE BOOSTER SHOT, FLU SHOT, AND I DON'T HAVE STRESS.
SO THIS CAR PRETTY MUCH WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE SUPERINTENDENTS INTERPRETATION OF ONLY 15.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS THAT QUEUE UP FOR WHEN
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SHE RETURNS AND MISSPELLED, RIGHT.WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND POSE THE QUESTION NOW.
AND WE'LL SAY MY ONLY ISSUE IS 15 THREE INTERPRETATION OR TYPES OF REPORTING TECHNOLOGY AND MEDIA GAGGLE.
AS ONE OF THOSE REPORTING PROJECT WAS NOT TO IN MY MIND IS NOT, DOES NOT FIT THAT CRITERIA.
AND THE REASON I BRING IT UP, TRY JUST TO GO TO COMMIT TO THAT HOW WE HAD MORE TIME.
UM, THE, I THINK IT WAS NEWBERRY COUNTY.
THEY HAD REMEMBER THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WENT ON WHERE PEOPLE WERE LIKE STORMING DOWN, LIKE THE DMV DEMANDING SOME SORT OF EXEMPTION I'D SEEN EXEMPTIONS AND JUST RANDOM COUNTY OFFICES WERE BEING HARASSED.
AND THE COUNTY HAS PUT IN, IN SCHOOLS HAVE DONE IT TOO ON DEVICES, ESSENTIALLY LIKE A PIN LOCATION-BASED PANIC, WHERE IF YOU WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS A FIGHT OR A SHOOTER OR SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENED, YOU COULD PUSH THAT.
HAVE YOU HEARD OF THESE THINGS? YES.
WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS.
THERE WAS ONE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE 'CAUSE, TO ME, IT SAYS TWO TYPES OF REPORTING TECHNOLOGY.
ONE, CAN WE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING? WHEN IS IT SORT OF PACKED UP? YOU KNOW, I'D SEE AN UNSAFE SITUATION.
I HEARD SOMETHING AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT ONE IS THERE'S A CRITICAL PROBLEM, AND I NEED YOU TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND SO TO ME, I WOULD RATHER, I'M NOT SAYING THE INTERPRETATION THAT'S LIKE WRONG.
I DON'T THINK GAGGLE IS A RECORDING TECHNOLOGY.
GAGGLE IS AN IDENTIFYING OF OTHER THINGS.
AND SINCE, UH, MR. BRISSELL WAS UNABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY, I'M WRITING THIS DOWN.
SO THAT WOULD BE A ONE QUESTION FOR 15.3.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT HAS TO HOLD UP THE INTERPRETATION BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, PREDATION FUNDAMENTALLY IS RIGHT.
I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SECURITY TEAM LOOK AT BECAUSE AS A PARENT, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MY KID HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY ON THEIR SCHOOL ISSUED DEVICE.
AN AREA OF CONCERN I HAD WAS JUST UNDER 15, 10, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, THE LAST SENTENCE, IT SAYS A SITE FOR RECOVERY IN SOUTHERN BEAVER COUNTY IS BEING DETERMINED.
SO THERE ARE SITES ALREADY DETERMINED FOR NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY, BUT NOT SOUTHERN BEAVER COUNTY.
SO, UM, YOU SEE THAT ROBIN IS THAT LAST SENTENCE IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH UNDER THE INTERPRETATION.
SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT I WILL WANT TO ASK ABOUT ALSO.
ROBERT, 15, 10, ARE THERE ANY OTHER HANDS UP MR. BELL CAMPBELL? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
I THINK IN ORDER TO, TO KEEP THE MEETING MOVING ALONG, UM, I WILL ASK THESE QUESTIONS OF MS. CARTLIDGE.
I'LL LET HER KNOW THAT OUR CONCERNS OTHERWISE, HOW WOULD WE FEEL ABOUT 15 AND HAVING A MOTION TO FIFTH? AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SUPERINTENDENT'S INTERPRETATION, NOT GOOD.
UM, I MOVE THAT THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS TO THE FULL BOARD ACCEPTANCE OF BOWIE 50 SUPERINTENDENTS, SUPERINTENDENTS, AND YOUR VACATION, YOU PLACED UPON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND I THINK MR. SMITH SECONDED, SIR.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
BRUDER, I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON FINALLY.
UM, WENDY, UH, MS. CARTLIDGE WAS GOING TO PRESENT THIS.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN WAIT FOR HER.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT THAT I CAN, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOYA AS IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LEGAL MATTER, SHE PROBABLY WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THIS.
UM, BUT WE DID GO THROUGH IT TOGETHER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR HER OR HOW YOU'D LIKE TO DO IT.
THEY DID GO AHEAD WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE USE OF FACILITIES AND COME BACK TO THIS.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
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YOU A MOTION ARRANGE THE AGENDA, SO, OKAY.SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND WE WILL DO THAT AND HOPEFULLY MS. CARTLIDGE WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN US SOON.
SO LET'S USE A SCHOOL FACILITIES AND MR. SMITH, THIS WAS YOUR REQUEST.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAD THIS TO SASHA.
WELL, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY I SEE MR. OUTING HAS A HAVE A, UM, A, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, OUR SIDE I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET THEM, LET THEM START IT OFF.
I ASKED MS.
SO SIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE START SINCE YOU REQUESTED THIS TOPIC.
UM, WELL THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF USING THE FACILITY FOR, FOR, TO ANY LEVEL TO ATTEND TO EVERY LEVEL? SO, UM, I WILL LET, UH, DRAINING MAJORS IN HER OLD POSITION, UH, WITHIN RETAINED THAT IN HER NEW POSITION, AS WELL AS THE BRAND NEW PROCESS.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT I ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT HE REMEMBERS MR. ALLEN DID THAT BECAUSE I ALSO, I WAS GOING TO ALSO ASK WHERE, WHAT THE APPLICATION LOOKED LIKE, WHAT, WHERE DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THE APPLICATION TO THAT WE CAN, UH, WE CAN LOOK, WE CAN LOOK AT, HE CAN EASILY SEND YOU A COPY OF THE APPLICATION, BUT YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO FACILITIES USE, UM, WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO, I'M GOING TO TAKE MY MATH SO Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.
WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT 1 29, UM, THAT'S OUR REGULATION THAT GOVERNS OUR POLICY AND HOW WE DIRECT, UM, INDIVIDUALS.
AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S ALSO AN 29 R, WHICH IS THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT ASSIGNS FEED FOR NONPROFIT AND FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES.
SO IN GENERAL, WHEN WE HAVE OUTSIDE ENTITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN RESERVING SPACE IN OUR SCHOOLS, UM, WE WILL DIRECT THEM TO THE SCHOOL.
THAT'S THE FIRST PHASE ONE TO REACH OUT TO THAT SCHOOL THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN USING WHATEVER COMMON SPACE, UM, SUCH AS WE DO NOT RUN OUT CLASSROOMS OR CLASSROOMS UP.
TYPICALLY IT'S NORMALLY OUR COMMUNITY AREAS LIKE OUR CAFETERIA GYMNASIUMS, UM, ATHLETIC FIELDS.
SO THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES, WHICH WAS ALSO STATED IN THE POLICY, SO THAT ENTITY WOULD BE DIRECTED TO AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL FIRST.
UM, AND WE DO THAT FOR BEST PRACTICES BECAUSE WE WANT, UM, THE SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THAT INTERESTED PARTY.
UM, IF THE SPACE IS AVAILABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF PRE VET THAT ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST.
UM, AND FOR MOST SINGLE USE EVENTS, UM, THE SCHOOL WAS, UM, HAS BEEN GIVEN THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO DRAFT THAT AGREEMENT.
IT'S A BOILER PLATE AGREEMENT THAT WE USE, UM, THAT THEY CAN DRAFT THAT AGREEMENT PUT IN THE SPECIFIC EVENT INFORMATION THAT THEY WOULD NEED AND WORK WITH THAT ENTITY TO GET ALL OF THE REQUIRED FORMS COMPLETED, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE, WHICH POLICY DOES REQUIRE THAT THEY CARRY A MILLION DOLLARS FOR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.
UM, THAT IS OUR, OUR POLICY RAGS.
UM, SO THOSE SCHOOL WORKED WITH THAT ENTITY TO GET THAT CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE, TO GET THE AGREEMENT SIGNED, UM, AND TO ALSO HAVE THEM SIGN THE SCHOOL, UM, RULES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING FACILITIES USE.
THAT'S A, UM, A SUPPLEMENTAL FORM THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED THAT WE HAVE THEM SIGN, UM, THAT HAS JUST STANDARD LANGUAGE AS FAR AS WHAT OUR POLICIES, UM, ARE FOR ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED NOT ALLOWED TO DO ON SCHOOL GROUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, NO SMOKING, NO DRINKING, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO ONCE THOSE PACKETS ARE SUBMITTED, THEN THAT SCHOOL HAS THE ENTITY SIGNED OFF ON THAT, UM, RENTAL PACKET.
HOW LONG WOULD THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR? THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR IS THE APPROVAL SOURCE FOR ALL FACILITIES USE AT THEIR FACILITY.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THOSE PACKETS ARE COMPLETED, THEN THOSE ARE SENT THROUGH A MODULE THAT WE HAVE IN SCHOOL DO, UM, CALLED FS DIRECT, UM, THEY'RE UPLOADED IN QFF REF.
AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH A WORKFLOW PROCESS AS OUR, UH, MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS TO, UM, THE REQUESTER WILL INPUT THE INFORMATION
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IN THE SYSTEM, AND THEN THAT WORKFLOW WILL REQUESTER TO THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR.AND THEN ONCE THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR SIGNS OFF ON THOSE REQUESTS, THEN IT WORK FLOWS TO THE DISTRICT OFFICE AND WE SIGN OFF ON IT.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MUCH TRANSITION WITH, UM, ADMINISTRATION, NEW ADMINISTRATORS AND TRYING TO GET ALL THOSE WORKFLOW PAST CREATED AND CORRECTED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR INFORMATION IS WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF THE REQUESTERS AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL THAT HANDLE THOSE FACILITIES, USE PACKETS HAVE BEEN EMAILING THEM TO ME.
UM, SO I CAN TRY AND GET THE INFORMATION INTO FS, DIRECT KEEPING IN MY FS DIRECT ALLOWS US TO TRACK THE INFORMATION.
FS DIRECT ALSO ALLOWS US TO NOTIFY OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS AS FAR AS CUSTODIAL AND OUR ENERGY MANAGER WHEN WE NEED SERVICES SCHEDULED TO BE COVERED.
SO IF A OUTSIDE ENTITY IS RENTING THE SPACE AND THEY NEED THE HVAC SYSTEM ON, UM, FS DIRECT WILL, WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEND NOTIFICATIONS TO THOSE ENTITIES SAYING, WE NEED COVERAGE ON THIS SCHEDULED DATE FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I'M LEAVING ANYTHING ELSE OUT, WE DO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, DOCUMENTATION.
IF WE HAVE AN OVERSTORY ORGANIZATION COMING IN THAT IS CLAIMING NON-PROFIT STATUS.
SO WE DO ASK FOR THEM TO SEND US THEIR 5 0 1 C NON-PROFITS CERTIFICATE AND OR A COPY OF A LETTER FROM THE IRS STATING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GRANTED NONPROFIT STATUS, UM, FACILITIES USE FEES ARE COLLECTED AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL.
THE DISTRICT WOULD NORMALLY, TYPICALLY WE WOULD GET INVOLVED IF IT WAS A LONG-TERM, UH, FACILITIES USED TO REQUEST.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S A FEE CALCULATION THAT IS BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SPACE, UM, THAT ESTABLISHED AS AN HOURLY RATE.
AND SO, UH, THERE ARE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TIME.
THE SCHOOLS NEED THAT EXTRA SUPPORT TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRUCTURE THE AGREEMENT, WHICH WE DO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT SUPPORT AS WELL.
RODRIGUEZ AND MR. ODDING, UM, ARE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY TWO DESIGNEES IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT CAN WAIVE FACILITIES, USE SPACE, UM, WAIVER FACILITIES, USE FEES IS LOOKED AT ON, UM, BASED ON WHAT THAT ENTITY CAN, UM, PROVIDE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HOW THEY'RE HELPING OUR COMMUNITY AND ENGAGING THE STUDENTS.
UM, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS OR DONATIONS TO THE SCHOOL OR VOLUNTEER TIME, YOU KNOW, AT FUTURE CLINICS FOR, UM, SCHOOL-BASED EVENTS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS.
RODRIGUEZ WOULD DISCUSS WAVING FEATS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WALTER, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS CAMPBELL? SO POLICY GENERALLY EVOLVED WAS BY MAJOR RENOVATION TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN YOU SAID THAT WAS SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, BASICALLY, UH, ONCE THAT
YOUR FINAL SIGN OFF, BUT IF THEY DON'T SIGN OFF ON IT, THEN IT DOESN'T IN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S A CHANGE RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, BECAUSE BOSS IS FLOOR, THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS THE PRINCIPAL, YOU KNOW, I HAD THE FINAL SAY AND HE COULD, YOU KNOW, I RENTED THE LEAST THOUGH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT
AND, UM, EVERY YEAR, ALMOST FOR 20 YEARS, JOHN YOU'RE BUILDING UP THE DOUGH
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AT THE END.AND MOST OF THE TIME WE WENT TO THIS PRINCIPAL TO ENGAGE WITH, HE ALWAYS SAID, SUPERINTENDENT, SUPERINTENDENT, AND YOU FILL OUT THE APPLICATIONS, YOU HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, IT WAS, UH, UH, WAS, UH, WAS EASY TO TALK TO HIM AND GET A WAIVER AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN BEEN HIM TOO.
BUT IT WASN'T ALWAYS THAT EASY TO GET THE WAIVER BECAUSE THE NONPROFIT SOMETHING, BUT NONPROFIT OR SOMETHING THAT ALSO INVOLVE THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY.
SO THEY WERE EASY TO GET ON THE WAIVER.
BUT EVEN THOUGH THE CUSTODIAL THING AND ALL THAT PART, YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THE FACILITATORS KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE AND WHEN IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND ALL OF THAT, SO A LOT SIDED.
AND IT HAPPENED THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MANY TIMES I HAD TO FIND MY OWN CUSTODIAN, WHICH IS SOMEBODY WHO IS WORKING THERE, BUT I'D SAY, HEY, I NEED YOU TO COME IN THIS DAY TO DO SOME EXTRA WORK AND DO THEY BUY THEM? YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT, I SUPPOSE.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WHAT EXPLAIN TO ME JUST THEN WHAT YOU SAID TO ME, JUST THEN AS A LOT, A LOT OF TITLE OPERATIONS, BECAUSE SCOTT HAS GOT A MOP AND EVERYBODY KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, OH, SCHOOL'S NOT OPEN.
I GOT TO CALL SOMEONE AND SAY, IT'S NOT OPEN, BUT CAN I GET A KEY? WHERE CAN I GET SOMEBODY TO OPEN THE SCHOOL STILL HAPPENS.
AND THEN YOU GOT A PLACE WHERE
THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING.
UM, IF MY MEMORIES, WELL, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME, CORRECT.
UM, AND TO WHAT MR. KENT, MS. CAMPBELL IS SAYING, IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER I WAS TALKING ABOUT LAST TIME, UM, IS WHEN IT CAME TO THIS, UH, THAT, THAT PART, THAT PART OF THE SIGIL, THAT, THAT PART OF THE EQUATION IS THAT THE PRINCIPALS DID NOT HAVE THE, THE, UH, THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM.
CAUSE I REMEMBER BEFORE THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF BROUGHT BY THE BUTTERFLY ON HILTON HEAD THAT THE PRINCIPAL OR SOMETHING, OR SOME CLUB WAS ON, IT WAS BASICALLY NOT ALLOWING STUDENTS.
I MEAN, NOT ALLOWING A COUPLE OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GET IT.
AND SO IT WOULD STOP AT THE PRINCIPALS LEVEL.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE IT TO BE UNIVERSAL, THAT IT WAS STOPPED AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL AND, AND, AND TURN IN TERMS OF NO RD OR YES.
AND, AND, UM, AND I'M NOT REALLY, THAT'S KIND OF NOT WHAT I'M HEARING TO ME.
UM, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN THE LAST TIME WE MET ABOUT THIS, THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THE PRINCIPALS HAD TOO MUCH AUTHORITY OVER THIS AND THAT IT COULD BE STOPPED AT THE PRINCIPAL LEVEL.
AND I THOUGHT WE DID NOT WANT IT TO BE STOPPED THERE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THE DISTRICT SHOULD, UM, SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO WOULD BE SAYING, NO, YOU CAN'T OR NO, Y'ALL NO, YOU COULDN'T.
SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AND MAYBE I'M NOT SURE MR. SCRIMMAGE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS, WAS HE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY HE AND I AND, UM, MR. UM, OH MAN.
UM, MR. DIAL AND GET YOU AND SAID, MR. DARLING.
UM, SO, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER HEARING.
I REMEMBER SAYING THAT AND THAT THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
SO, UM, UH, YEAH, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS NOT JUST MORE ON THE, THAT WAS A SEVERAL AREAS.
PEOPLE HAS BEEN SAYING HOW HARD IT WAS TO GET THE SCHOOLS AND THAT THE PRINCIPAL DID NOT HAVE INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU WERE DOING, THAT THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW PEOPLE, CERTAIN PEOPLE TO GET THE, TO GET THE FACILITIES.
AND SO I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THAT'S KIND OF STILL THE, THE, THE, THE, THE LEAD WAY AND WHAT, AND WHAT, AND WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF WRING FACILITIES.
UM, AND AS, AND AS WELL AS I, I STILL THINK THAT THE ONUS OF RUNNING THESE FACILITIES SHOULD BE AT A DISTRICT LEVEL SO THAT THE DISTRICT KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND WHO'S IN W W W AND WHAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, I DID THAT THE FACILITIES OFFICE SHOULD, SHOULD DEFINITELY KNOW THAT INDEFINITELY, UH, FOR THEIR STAFF, THEIR STAFF, THEIR STAFF ON ANY, WELL, I GUESS IT WAS, IT WAS SAID THAT, BUT THE FINAL STAMP SHOULD COME FROM THE, THE, THE, THE DISTRICT OFFICE.
AND ALSO, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WAIVER.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE, THE, WHAT, WHAT, UH, REASONS WHY THAT THE WAIVER AND WHO COULD,
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WHEREAS THAT SPELLED OUT BASICALLY, WHEREAS IT SPELLED OUT THE REASON FOR WAIVERS THAT THAT USE WOULD BE WEIGHED.AND ALSO WHO WOULD, WHO, WHO, WHO WOULD, UH, WHO, WHO HAD THEIR FINAL APPROVAL, THE WAY IT WAS? COULD YOU TELL ME WHERE, WHERE I CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION AT? UM, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU LOOK UP WHAT THE WAIVER IS, WHATEVER I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE PRINCIPALS AND, UM, WHETHER THE DISTRICT OFFICE IS THE LAST STOP.
THE DISTRICT OFFICE IS THE LAST STOP.
AND WE DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION PREVIOUSLY.
UH, I KNOW YOU WERE A PART OF THAT.
MR. SHERMAN JUROR WAS A PART OF THAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT WE'VE STRESSED FOR OUR PRINCIPALS, AND YOU'LL FIND IT LOCATED AS AN ITEM HERE UNDER SECTION C, UH, F UH, IS THAT THE PRINCIPAL FOR THE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL OR THE REQUESTED SHE VIEWS SHOULD APPROVE ALL REASONABLE REQUESTS AT SCHOOL FACILITIES.
AND THEN IT LISTS REASONS WHY, HOW THEY MAY DENY DENIED AND THE MAIN, SO THINGS LIKE THE APPLICATION IS INCORRECT FEES NOT PAID, UM, THE ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE THERE, WE'VE WHAT WE DID IS HAD STRICTER POLICIES ON WHEN THE PRINCIPALS WERE ALLOWED TO DENY IT, IT HAD TO BE, AND THEY HAD TO BE CONSISTENT FOR THAT.
THE DISTRICT IS STILL THE FINAL SAY, BUT THE SCHOOL LEVEL HAS TO SAY WHETHER IT'S AVAILABLE OR NOT, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW THE SCHEDULES AND THE USES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS, UM, WE HAVE STRESSED THAT, AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THE SCHOOLS AREN'T, UM, THAT AREN'T VARYING ON HOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR DENIALS OF USE.
SO WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND IT ALL RIGHT.
AND THEN I'LL LOOK AND FIND WHERE THEY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK THAT I'LL TRY TO FIND WHERE IT STATES ABOUT THE WAIVERS WITHOUT CHARGE THE, SO BE UNDER B USAGE, NEVER ONE, THE DATE SET FOR OH, H TWO
SO IF YOU CAN FIND ON PAGE TWO, UH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY SECTION THREE, ITEM B, UM, THE SET FORTH SHALL APPLY TO THE USE OF ALL SCHOOL FACILITIES BY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, APPROXIMATELY COST ABUSE FACILITY, THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND OR HIS DESIGNEE WAIVE THE FEES AND CHARGES.
IF IN HIS OR HER OPINION, THERE IS GOOD CAUSE TO DO SO AND SERVES A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE.
AND HAVE WE DEFINED WHAT? WELL, I I'LL I'LL I'LL LEAVE THAT.
WE PASS A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC BIRD PERSON IS MS. MAKER SAID EARLIER, OUR COMMON, UM, REQUESTS WHEN ANYBODY WANTS TO WAIVE FEES IS, UM, WHAT IS THE VALUE TO THE CHILDREN AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? UM, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THEATER CAMPS, AND THEY WILL LET US KNOW THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE FIVE SCHOLARSHIPS WORTH A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE.
SO WE'LL SAY, OKAY, THAT'S A $5,000 VALUE.
WE CAN WAIVE UP TO $5,000 WORTH OF FEES FOR THAT.
SO WE ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A VALUE TO THE CHILDREN OF BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND IF THEY CAN SHOW ANY KIND OF VALUE WE'LL CREDIT THAT THEIR FEATS, THAT THAT'S OUR STANDARD APPROACH TO ALWAYS THOSE, UM, NO.
IT COULD BE SOME KIND OF TIME THAT WE THEN EQUATE SOME KIND OF DOLLAR BECAUSE THE FEE IS A DOLLAR.
SO SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO CONVERT IF IT'S A TIME DONATION
I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE WHAT I WAS DOING HAD NO SCHOLARSHIP OFFER, BUT IT WAS A PROGRAM RELATIVE TO COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND
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COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, AND I'VE GOT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND I FELT LIKE ALL THE TIMBER, THE BENEFIT FROM IT ALONG WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH STAFF, BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TO, HOW MUCH IS THAT SAVING THE CHILD? OR HOW MUCH ARE YOU OFFERING A SCHOLARSHIP? I'D HAVE AN ALIBI FOR THAT.SO
WE'D ASK YOU FIRST WOULD BE, ARE YOU CHARGING THE STUDENTS? NO, IT WOULDN'T BE A JUDGE.
YOU'RE NOT CHARGING THE STUDENTS.
AND ARE YOU A FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION? NO PROBLEM.
ARE YOU DOING IT AS A SCHOOL-BASED ORGANIZATION? ARE YOU DOING IT AS IT'S NOT AS, AS WITH
I MEAN, SO THAT'S BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T CHARGING AND IF IT'S A SCHOOL-BASED FUNCTION IN ANY WAY, THEN THERE'S THERE'S NO, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO
MA'AM UM, ACTUALLY JUST TO GIVE ME A, YOU JUST DROVE INTO MY NEXT QUESTION.
UM, WHAT, SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN A TEACHER WANTS TO USE TWO FACILITIES, WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT THEY USE, THAT THEY'RE HAVING SOMETHING THERE.
AND IS THERE AN APPLICATION FOR THEM TO FILL IT OUT, FILL OUT SOMETHING.
SO A TEACHER, OR LET'S JUST SAY ANY SCHOOL STAFF OR ANYBODY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WE'D ASKED THEIR PURPOSE.
AND IF IT'S, IT IS A FUNCTION OF THE SCHOOL.
SO IF THE TEACHER IS USING IT AS SOME FUNCTION IN HER SCHOOL, THEN SHE WOULD NOT EVEN NEED TO DO THE FACILITIES USE PROCESS.
IT'D BE ALLOWED AS A SCHOOL COP THING AND COVERED.
LET'S SAY THE TEACHER WANTS TO DO AN AFTERSCHOOL YOGA CLASS.
IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO MR. CAMPBELL'S, UM, SCENARIO, WE'D ASK, ARE THEY CHARGING? AND WE'VE HAD THIS DONE BEFORE WHERE THEY SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT CHARGING.
WE JUST WANT TO GET TOGETHER WITH FRIENDS OR WHOEVER AND DO AN AFTERSCHOOL YOGA CLASS.
UM, THEN WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE INSURANCE, BUT WE PROBABLY WAIVE ALL FEES IF THEY WEREN'T CHARGING YOU.
MS. BELL, RIGHT? WHAT DO YOU ALL FEES FOR A YOGA CLASS? JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S HPAC FEES, THERE'S CUSTODIAN FEES.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT, I, I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM MR. CAMPBELL HAS.
I THINK HE AND I RAN INTO SOME OF THE SAME ROADBLOCKS OF JUST TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING FOR THE KIDS NON-PROFIT IN THE SCHOOLS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF RUBBER.
SO I THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT A STREAMLINED PROCESS.
I AM A LITTLE HESITANT TO COME ON THE RECORD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING GOOD AND YOU'RE NOT CHARGING, YOU CAN USE THE FACILITY.
CAUSE THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME STUFF.
WELL, THE DIFFERENCE THERE WOULD BE, ARE YOU DOING IT 4:00 AM IN SCHOOL DAY.
ARE YOU DOING IT ON A SATURDAY? IF YOU'RE DOING IT ON A SATURDAY, WE'RE NOT GOING WAIVE THOSE FEEDS BECAUSE SEVEN O'CLOCK WE'RE HAVING TO TURN THE AIR CONDITIONER ON.
WE'RE GOING TO CUSTODIAL POSSIBLY COME IN.
SO ALL THOSE WILL BE CHARGED, RIGHT.
BUT IF YOU WERE DOING IT AT FOUR O'CLOCK ON A THURSDAY, RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL, THE AIR CONDITIONING IS ALREADY ON THERE.
WE MAY, AND THE CUSTODIAL IS ALREADY IN THE BUILDING.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THIS, IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL COST THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON THOSE KEYS, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT ANY OF THE USE OF THE ABILITY IS PAID FOR, BY THE PERSON USING THE BILL, IF THERE'S EXTRA USE BEYOND.
WELL, I THINK IN AREAS LIKE BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD, WHERE THERE, YOU KNOW, SPACE IS A PREMIUM, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL TOO, ABOUT HOW MUCH USE THOSE BUILDINGS GET WHAT PURPOSE? BECAUSE IF YOU START JUST LETTING IT, IF YOU DETACH IT FROM BENEFIT TO THE STUDENTS, YOU CAN END UP WITH A FREE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, AS I WAS JUST SAYING, WHEN YOU SAID WE WAIVE ALL FEES, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE QUITE THAT SIMPLE, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
FOUR O'CLOCK THAT'D BE THE KIDS FREE.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN SEVEN O'CLOCK YOGA CLASS THAT YOU'RE NOT CHARGING.
MA'AM UM, ALSO, SO WHEN THESE WAS THE ONE THAT SUPERINTENDENTS DO TOWN HALLS, UM, DOES THE SUPERVISOR, DOES HE HAVE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION? NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SCHOOL.
THAT'S A DISTRICT BASED FUNCTION.
SO ANY DISTRICT BASED FUNCTION AS NO DOES NOT EVEN NEED TO CONSIDER.
SO TO ANYTHING THAT'S DONE BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES DOESN'T EVEN CONSIDER SO EASY, THE ONLY THING THEY MAY CONSIDER IS WE ASK THEM TO RESERVE THE SPACE SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S TAKEN.
THAT WOULD BE, IT IS THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO PUT IN,
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WE DO ASK SCHOOLS TO PUT IN SOME OF THEIR USE OF THEIR FUNCTION.SO IF SOMEBODY TRIES TO LOOK TO SEE IF THE SPACE IS AVAILABLE, THEY KNOW, OH, THE SUPERINTENDENT IS HOLDING THE TOWN HALL THERE.
SO WHAT, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT IF A BOARD MEMBER MUST HAVE, HAVE A CHAT, HAVE A MEETING WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS, THEY DON'T THEN, THEN, THEN WHAT? THEN WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR THAT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE SAME, SAME PROCESS AS A SUPERINTENDENT, CORRECT? THAT IS INCORRECT.
SO AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER IS AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
THEY'RE LIKE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC, IF THE BOARD AS A WHOLE ENDORSES OR SPONSORS THE EVENT, THEN IT'S A BOARD EVENT AND THERE ARE NO FEES.
THERE ARE NO, UM, IT REQUIREMENTS YOU'RE, YOU'RE A BOARD DISTRICT SPONSORED EVENT THAN ANY INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER, UM, WOULD BE LIKE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS CONVERSATION KIND OF COME ON BEFORE IS THAT IF WE ALLOW INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS TO USE SPACES, BUT SAY, YOU'RE NOW ELECTION THAT YEAR, AND YOU WANT TO MEET WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS CONSTITUENTS AND IT COULD BE CONSIDERED CAMPAIGNING.
DO WE ALLOW EVERYBODY RUNNING AGAINST YOU? DO YOU ALSO USE THOSE SPACES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO PAINTED PAINTING.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT SLIPPERY.
SO AS FAR AS SO IF THE BOARD SUPPORTS THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER, IN OTHER WORDS, THE BOARD ENDORSES IT, THEN YES, IT'S COMPLETELY ALLOWED WITHOUT BOARD ENDORSEMENT.
THAT IS NOT A BOARD SPONSORED EVENT IS LIKE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, MR. AUDITING, AND ALSO WHERE, WHERE, WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT INTERPRETATION? BECAUSE IF, IF, IF A BOARD MEMBER IS THE, UH, IS THE, IS THE ACTUAL TRUSTEE, THEN HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? BECAUSE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE MEETING WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THAT'S A PART OF YOUR, OF YOUR DUTIES.
AND, AND I SEE WHERE THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, THEY, THEY USE THEIR FACILITIES AND THEY HAVE COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE COMMUNITY MEET MEETINGS AND, AND THEIR DIFFERENT FACILITIES.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WHERE'S THAT RE WHERE'S THAT WHERE'S THAT WRITTEN AT AND WHERE THAT INTERPRETATION COMING FROM.
SO LIKE, I KIND OF SAY IF AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER WENT TO THE BOARD AND SAID, I'D LIKE TO HOLD THIS EVENT AND I'D LIKE IT TO BE CONSIDERED A BOARD EVENT, I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH MY CONSTITUENTS AND THE BOARD VOTES ON IT SAYS, YES, WE AGREE WITH THAT EVENT BEING A BOARD EVENT, THEN YOU ARE LIKE A CONTRASTY AND I'LL DO IS PICK THE UNITED STATES.
MY QUESTION WHERE, WHERE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHERE IS THAT INTERPRETED AT? AND IN WRITING, BECAUSE I'M THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT, IS THAT WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A PERSONAL PURPOSE THAT WHO, WHOEVER THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE OR HOW YOU SEE IT, BUT THAT AS A, AS A BOARD MEMBER, THAT'S NOT HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING IT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SERVE TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY, THEN THE, MY QUOTE, MY QUESTION HERE IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THAN YOU HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY MEANS BECAUSE THE MEETING HAS NOT BEEN AND BEEN TO MEET THE MEETING IS NOT JUST AN ADDED BENEFIT OF YOU.
YOU ARE MEETING WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS A BOY THAT IS A, THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE POSITION.
SO I'M TRYING TO PRECIPITOUSLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHERE CAN I FIND THAT IN THE WRITING OF THAT INTERPRETATION, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE UP INTERPRETATION AS WE GO ALONG AND SAY, WELL, THIS IS HOW I SEE IT.
WHERE'S THAT, THAT SPELLED OUT AT, SO THESE ARE SMITHVILLE.
WELL, MR. RODNEY AND MS. MAJOR ARE COMPILED, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR ANSWER.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION MS. ROBOT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, WHEN I HAVE, UH, HELD MEETINGS WITH, WITH CONSTITUENTS, WITH MY COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, COM UM, PARTNER, WE HAVE NEVER DONE IT AT COUNTY COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS USED A, UH, A LIBRARY, UM, AND HE'S SUGGESTED THAT WE'VE HAD IT ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND I, I GUESS I WOULD LOOK AT NUMBER SIX, USE FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HEARINGS.
UM, IT SEEMS TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL UNITS OF GOVERNMENT THERE.
SO MIGHT JUST WANT TO, UH, AND THAT, UM, APPLICATIONS, APPLICATIONS TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS MAY BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING TO THE SUPERINTENDENTS OFFICE.
BUT WHEN I READ THAT, I INTERPRET IT AS A UNIT AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL UH, W W WHERE DO YOU SEE NUMBERS? CAN YOU BE MORE PACIFIC? YEAH.
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FOR TOP OF THE PAGE AND MS. LUCIA, MARY HAS IT ON THE SCREEN UNIT OR AGENCY.IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THE RIGHT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO IF, IF I GET, I MEAN, THIS IS ONE THING, IF THE BOARD THAT IS ARE, YES, THAT IS MY BEING THE DESIGNEE OVER THIS POLICY'S INTERPRETATION.
IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ME TO TAKE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION AND THEY'D LIKE TO GUIDE ME ON HOW, UM, I SHOULD, UH, RECEIVE AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER LOOKING TO USE A FACILITY, I WOKE UP, PLEASE PROVIDE ME THAT AS A BOARD, I'D ASK YOU TO PLEASE PROVIDE ME GUIDANCE ON HOW THAT SHOULD BE INTERPRETED.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD RESOLUTION TO THIS CONVERSATION THAT IS, COULD BE DRAWN UP IN FRONT OF THE FULL BOARD AS FAR AS, UM, INTERPRETATION OF THAT.
SO, MR. SMITH, SINCE YOU ASKED FOR A GUEST, HOW DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU, MR. SMITH? YES.
I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD BRING THIS UP TO THE BOARD.
UH, UM, YEAH, I GUESS I JUST TIME, I GUESS I CAN.
YEAH, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD BRING THIS UP TO THE MORNING.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
SO WHEN WE BRING UP THE, UM, OPERATIONS COMMITTEE REPORT AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, THEY CAN BRING THIS UP AT THAT TIME.
AND I DON'T KNOW IS MR.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS A RELATIVELY NEW BOARD MEMBERS STILL PLAYING THE NEWBIE CARD.
WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT EIGHT OR WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR US ADJUSTED THEY'RE BEING DONE? ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO CHANGE, OR I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A POLICY.
I'M NOT SAYING WHAT I KNOW, GET THE COCONUT TAN FROM ME.
START BY ANSWERING THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, THE ANSWER WHERE, WHERE DOES IT STATE IN POLICY? AND ALL I'D SAY IS ITEM TWO, PAGE ONE IS USED BY SCHOOL RELATED ORGANIZATIONS.
AND NOWHERE IN THERE DOES IT LIST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD ITSELF IS A PART OF THE DISTRICT, SO IT'S, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO REQUEST IT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE A, THEY'RE A SCHOOL-BASED ORGANIZATION, BUT WE DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYTHING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL BOARD.
AND THAT IS SO THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION, MR. SMITH.
UM, IT'S NOT CLEARLY SPELLED OUT TO ME.
I'D SAY THAT I AM INTERPRETATING IT.
UM, AS WHAT I SEE THIS SAYS, AND SO IN MY MIND, UH, HE'S QUESTIONING THAT INTERPRETATION.
THE BORDER IS IN MY MIND IS IT'S NOT, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE ALE.
SO REALLY WHAT I'M GIVEN MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT I THINK THEY ARE SAYS.
SO ITS BOARD IS QUESTIONING OUR INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS ARE REQUESTING THAT INTERPRETATION.
SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED THAT WE CAN ADJUST THE AIR TO MEET THE BOARD'S INTENT.
AND THE ONLY REASON, CAUSE I WAS TOLD WHEN I STARTED VERY, VERY FIRMLY AND SPECIFICALLY THAT WE DO NOT AS A BOARD CHANGE.
SO YOU DO TALK ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THIS INTERPRETATION.
I THINK WE'D BE CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DIRECT YOU TO CHANGE THE AR I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT I MEAN, SO I THINK WHERE YOU'D EITHER THROUGH POLICY OR THROUGH JUST DISCUSSIONS, TALK ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL THE BOARDS MEMBERS NEEDED, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS TO USE SCHOOL.
SOMEBODY THAT'D BECOME, YOU CAN PUT IT IN YOUR BOARD POLICY OR JUST DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO NOT, NOT EVEN SPECIFICALLY TOUCH TO THIS DAY ARE, BUT DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ALLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO HAVE USE OF SCHOOL FACILITIES WITHOUT CHARGE OR WITH ANY AUDI THINK 20 POLICY, NOT TODAY.
YOU COULD MAKE A POLICY CHANGE.
THAT COULD BE ONE WAY TO ADDRESS IT.
OR AS A BOARD, YOU CAN DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO TAKE THAT ACTION.
UH, MEETING I HAVE IN THE PAST, MY COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER OF ME, WE HAVE HAD, UH, HOW COMMUNITY CENTERS AND THESE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL OUR COUNTY BUILDING LIKE, UM, AT BURTON, WELL, BUT WE HAVE NEVER HAD
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A MEETING AT A SCHOOL.AND LAST NOW I WENT TO, UH, PTO MEETINGS AND TALK TO PEOPLE.
LIKE, UH, AS, AS, AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER, THEN WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING THE SCHOOL ONCE YOU LEAVE.
SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE MR. SMITH, I'M SPEAKING RIGHT NOW, PLEASE.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE GLEANED FROM THIS CONVERSATION IS IT REQUIRES MORE CONVERSATION, UM, AND, UH, DISCUSSION.
SO AGAIN, MY PLAN WOULD BE TO BRING THIS UP DURING OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, UM, AND ASK THE BOARD FOR THEIR THOUGHTS ON JEFF'S.
SO I HAD A MINIMAL TO THE COMMITTEE.
I JUST OF MAKE ONE MORE CALL MY PLACE ONE MORE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.
I WORK WITH THAT AS THIS IS A LITTLE BIT PICKY.
AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT I AM, I MAY BE WRONG BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
SO I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE OPEN UP GETTING INTO BAY OURS IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU BRING IT UP.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE, BECAUSE IF WE START WITH THIS ONE, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THAT WILL WILL BE THE ONLY AR THE BOARD WILL WANT TO REINTERPRET.
SO WE'LL BE IN YOUR PRESENCE IF I COULD SPEAK FOR MR. SMITH, MISS, UM, PART LEGISLATIVE WAY IN HERE, SHE'S THE ONE SPEAKING NEXT I'M GOING TO UNDER, EXCUSE ME, FOR SUPERINTENDENT RELATIONSHIP B SLASH SR FIVE SUPERINTENDENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
NUMBER EIGHT, THE BOARD DIRECTS THE SUPERINTENDENT TO PROVIDE ALL PROPOSED ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION CHANGES TO THE BOARD FOR REVIEW AND RIGHT.
SO THE BOARD DOESN'T APPROVE THEM, BUT PRESENT THEM WITH AN INPUT PRIDE, RIGHT? MR. SMITH, UH, UM, ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY, I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
I I'M, UM, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT SHE'S SAYING ABOUT THE, THE, ABOUT THE AR I CONCUR.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, IT COULD ALSO BE ALONG A LOT OF PROBABLY POLICY, BUT HERE, UH, HERE RECENTLY, UH, WE DID HAVE, ACTUALLY, WE DID HAVE A MEETING AT ST.
HELEN, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND, AND WE, WE, WE, UH, WE ALL WERE THERE, THE COUNTY COUNCILMAN AND EVERYONE, UH, AND WE HAD THE MEETING AT OUR SCHOOL IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
UH IT'S I MEAN, IT WAS, SO WE JUST SAID WE HAVE, SO WE DID HAVE A MEETING AT ST.
HELENA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HERE, UH, HERE RECENTLY.
SO, UM, AND IN TERMS OF OTHER PEOPLE NOT HAVING ONE, I DO THAT.
HELEN AND IT, WHEN IT WAS US, I WAS SUCCESSFUL AND WE DID HA HA HAVE IT HAVE A CROWD.
SO, UH, UM,
UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT, UH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MS. FRIDGES JUST SAYING YES.
I THINK THAT THE BOARD SHOULD, UH, WEIGHING ON THIS AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A BOARD DISCUSSION ON THIS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
OUR LAST TOPIC FOR TODAY IS, UM, AR E SEVEN, CORRECT? YES, YES.
ARE SEVEN IS CARTLEDGE AND DR.
UM, I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE BOARD POLICY AND THE NEW, OR AN OPERATIONAL EXPECTATIONS, AND I'M GOING TO BE UPDATING THESE ADMINISTRATIVE REGS.
SO THE BOARD HAS A OH 16 OF LEAVE IS CORRECT ELISA RIGHT HERE.
SO ALL E 16 WAS THE FOYER OPERATIONAL EXPECTATION.
SO THIS CHANGED THIS STRICT REGULATION, UH, DISCUSS THIS WHAT'S REQUIRED IN FOYA TO MAKE AN INFORMATION REQUEST AS WELL AS COMPLIES WITH BOARD POLICY, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE IN ROMAN NUMERAL TWO C THE BCSD POST F FOYER REQUESTS AND RESPONSES THAT INCLUDE A LOG OF FOUR RESPONSES AND HAVE SOME NAME OF REQUESTS THROUGH THE DATE, UM, AVERAGE NUMBER OF DAYS TO RESPOND AND TO RESPOND AMOUNT, CHARGED RESPONSE SUBJECT TO THEIR REQUEST, REASON FOR DENIAL.
AND THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH O E 16, UH, NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO IS A NUMBER AND G THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ENSURE THE REQUEST RESPONSE ARE TRACKED FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR AND REPORTED QUARTERLY AND AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, THE BOARD HAS AN OH EIGHT 10 ABOUT EDUCATION WITH THE PUBLIC.
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ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INFORMED AND THAT THE BOARD IS INFORMED.AND THEN THE ANNUAL REPORT, THIS SITE THAT, UM, WELL FOR THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UPDATE, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION AND APPRECIATE DR.
AND THAT'S AGAIN, THE, THE NEW GOVERNANCE MANUAL, UM, SITES ARE UNDER, YOU SAID, MS. PROBABLY AS YOU'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO US FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, THIS IS, HEY, ARE, IS THERE ANYTHING IN EAR THAT CHANGED? SO I HAD THE, UH, A LOT OF EXCHANGE BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN 20 YEARS, IT'S OVER 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, THE APP HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND IT'S BEEN REVISED.
SO THIS IS TO BRING UP TO THE PUB X A LOT TO THE PRESENT TIME, BUT ALSO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR POLICIES.
SO JUST NOTICE THAT, THAT IT WAS ADOPTED AND HAS REVISITED IT.
SO A DOCTOR, I CAN REMEMBER HER AND I WERE GOING OVER SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
WE'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING THOSE TO THE PRESENT TIME.
BRUDER, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE, UH, HUNG IN THERE WITH US FOR THIS ENTIRE MEETING.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, A R UH, WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND MS. PORTLANDERS WORK ON BRINGING US, UH, 20 YEARS INTO THE CURRENT TIME WITH VOYA.
UM, AND, AND POINT IS A REALLY VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, UH, WAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO, TO GET INFORMATION THEY FEEL THEY NEED, BUT WE WANT TO ACT WITH THEM LOSS OF THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE END OF OUR AGENDA THAT WE HAVE COVERED EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO JERKS ALL IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, UM, THREE HOURS OF WORK.