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UH, THE MEETING OF THE BUFORD COUNTY EDUCATION FINANCE COMMITTEE OF OCTOBER 14TH, 2021 HIGHBRED VIDEO CONFERENCING MEETING, AND THIS MEETING WILL BE LIVE STREAM BY THE COUNTY GENDER REQUEST FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

PARTICIPATION WILL BE ACCEPTED BETWEEN FOUR AND FOUR 30 BY SENDING AN EMAIL WITH YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER AND TOPIC TO ROBIN DOT, PUSHING BAREA, CREEPER K THROUGH 12 FC.YOU.

MISS KATIE.

THIS IS A CALL TO ORDER THE, YOU START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

PLEASE RISE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO, THROUGH WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL.

I HEAR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.

I'LL TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ROBIN, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? IF I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MR. CAMPBELL MADE THE MOTION.

SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS SOLE SOURCED SECUREMENT.

THIS CROSBY.

YES.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS EVENING, UH, OUR SOLE SOURCE AND EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT REPORT FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2021.

SO THIS WOULD BE FROM JANUARY THROUGH, UH, FIRST OF 2021 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2021.

SO TYPICALLY I BRING, UH, THIS REPORT FORWARD WITH OUR, UH, O E 6.2, WHICH IS MINORITY AND WOMEN BUSINESS ENTERPRISE REPORT.

BUT I, UH, INADVERTENTLY LEFT THIS ONE OFF, UH, IN OUR LAST REPORT OF AUGUST 12TH.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE AN E THIS EVENING.

UM, BUT IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE PROCUREMENT CODE THAT WE BRING FORWARD, UH, AT SOME POINT, UH, UH, NEAR THE, AFTER THE END OF THAT, UH, TIME PERIOD.

SO, UH, THERE ARE TWO SECTIONS.

UH, ONE IS THE FIRST IS SOLE SOURCE.

A SOLE SOURCE IS, UH, PROCUREMENT ALLOWS THE DISTRICT TO SELECT A PARTICULAR VENDOR TO DO BUSINESS WITH.

UM, THAT IS THE SOLE, UH, UH, SOLE PROPRIETOR, THE ONLY, THE ONLY SOURCE THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR A PRODUCT.

UM, SO IN THIS CASE WE HAVE, UM, SEVERAL AREAS, UH, HARRIS INTEGRATION SOLUTIONS FOR EXAMPLE, IS OUR, UM, AUTOMATED LOGIC DEALER, WHICH HANDLES OUR, UM, ENERGY, UM, UH, SOFTWARE.

AND, UH, IT ALLOWS US TO MONITOR THE USAGE AND ADJUST, UH, TURN ON AIR CONDITIONING UNITS FROM A REMOTE LOCATION AND SO ON LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A SOLE SOURCE, UH, VENDOR.

UH, AND SO ANYTIME WE OFFER, UM, APPROVE THE USE OF A SOLE SOURCE, UH, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE PROCUREMENT OFFICE AND MYSELF AND IDENTIFIED AS THE ONLY SOURCE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE USE OF, UH, ON THE SECOND PAGE UNDER, UH, MIDWAY DOWN THIS, THE REPORT IS, UH, , WHICH IS OUR ELEVATOR, UH, SUPPLIER.

UM, UH, SO YES, IT'S LISTED A COUPLE OF PLANS THERE AND ANYTIME WE HAVE REPAIRS OR INSPECTIONS TO OUR ELEVATORS, WE HAVE TO GO, UH, YOU PROCURE THE SERVICES OF THE VENDOR THAT SUPPLIES THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT IN THIS CASE, IN THE ELEVATOR, UH, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE STILL UNDER WARRANTY, UH, FOR THE EQUIPMENT.

SO, UM, THOSE WOULD BE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THAT.

UM, AND THEN FURTHER

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DOWN, UH, WE'LL LIST EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT, WHICH WOULD BE PROCUREMENT IN THE CASE OF, UH, DAMAGE OF A FACILITY THAT MAY BE A HEALTH AND, OR ANY OTHER HEALTH AND SAFETY TYPE ISSUE AND EMERGENCY.

SO A WATER MAIN BREAK REPAIR, UH, IN THIS CASE, UM, THERE WAS A RETRACTABLE GOAL THAT WAS, UM, IN RE AT RISK OF DAMAGING OR LIFE AND SAFETY ISSUES, UM, HBA SEEDS, UH, GOING OUT, UH, IN A PARTICULAR AREA AND FIRE EXTINGUISHING SERVICES OR, OR SOME OF THOSE, BUT OFTENTIMES I'M CONTACTED, UH, PARTICULARLY IF THERE IS A, IF THERE IS A FIRE IN A CLOSET, SOMEWHERE IN A BUILDING AND THERE'S SOME DAMAGE OR A FLOOD IN AN AREA THAT THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT, WE NEEDED TO PROCURE THE SERVICES TO PREPARE SOMETHING OR CLEAN SOMETHING UP, UM, VERY QUICKLY AND, UM, NEEDED THAT EMERGENCY APPROVAL IN ORDER TO AFFORD.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

NO, SIR, ACTUALLY, NO QUESTIONS.

DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE, THIS REPORT BEFORE FOR THE FULL BOARD AND PUT IT INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO, SIR.

IN, UH, IN MY OPINION, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY SORT OF ACCEPTANCE OR APPROVAL.

IT'S JUST REQUIREMENT OF THE PROCUREMENT CODE REST TO BRING IT FORWARD AS INFORMATION.

SO, UM, THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE SATISFIED THAT REQUIREMENT, TANYA, SORRY, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, MS. CROSBY, DOES THE PROCUREMENT CODE, DOES IT STATE THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE FULL BOARD OR DOES IT JUST SAY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE? WHAT DOES IT SAY IN THAT REGARD? BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL.

AND I DON'T, I KNOW I RECOMMEND, I RECALL SEEING SOME OF THESE SOLE SOURCE VENDORS BEFORE, LIKE THE ELEVATOR AND THINGS.

SO I KNOW THAT IT'S PRETTY STANDARD.

UM, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCUREMENT CODE SAYS IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE FULL BOARD OR IS COMMITTEE SUFFICIENT.

WELL, I THINK THAT, UM, WOULD THIS MOVING FORWARD, IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FULL BOARD.

UM, AND, UM, NOT NECESSARILY AS A REPORT, BUT, UM, UNDER THE COMMITTEE REPORTS, IT CAN, THE DOCUMENT CAN BE REPORTED TO THE FULL BOARD FOR THE COMMITTEE REPORTS AND THAT WAS DEFINED TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION, THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE FULL BOARD.

SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

WE BROUGHT THE MINORITY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE REPORT AND THIS REPORT TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT, HEARING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE TO THIS NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK THERE'S A HAND UP MR. CHAIR STANDS UP OR MR. SMITH IS HANDS UP MR. SMITH.

YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SAY THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY, I THINK THAT THAT REPORT SHOULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND THAT WAS, UH, YEAH, I WAS.

UH, AND IF IT DIDN'T COME FROM, WELL, I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN CONCERNED.

THANK YOU, NIKKI, FOR BRINGING THAT, UM, FOR, FOR BRINGING THAT DRUG QUESTION UP BECAUSE, UH, YEAH, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY WASN'T A CERTAIN MONTH.

THANK YOU.

MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM MILLAGE RATE UPDATE.

MS. CROSBY.

YES, SIR.

SO, UM, FOR THE MILLAGE RATE UPDATE, WE HAVE, UH, PROVIDED A LETTER THAT, UH, OUR BOND COUNCIL HAS ASSISTED US WITH PREPARING A DOCUMENT.

UH, JUST A LETTER TO MR. JIM BECKER AT THE COUNTY AUDITOR, OR, UH, SHE HAD ORDER TO, TO CORRESPOND WITH HIM ABOUT, UM, THAT CERTIFICATION OF THE MILLAGE RATES, UM, WERE MADE AT THIS SPECIFIC RATES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY AN ORDINANCE BY COUNTY COUNCIL AND A CERTIFIED BY THE BOARD.

SO WE CITED THE SPECIFIC, UM, MILLAGE RATES OF THE OPERATIONS RATE OF 1 21 0.6 MILLS AND DEPTH SERVICE AT 36.3 MILS.

AND THERE IS A SECTION OF THE CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT, UH, IT'S SECTION 12 DASH 43 DASH 2 85, UM, THAT DOES REQUIRE A CERTIFICATION OF THE MILLAGE.

AND SO, UM,

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THERE HAS NOT BEEN CONSISTENCY ON, UM, THAT CERTIFICATION WOULD, THAT MEANS EACH YEAR.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE, UH, PREPARED A LETTER AND SENT TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR TO REQUEST THEM, TO CONFIRM THE MILLAGE RATES AND TO THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND CERTIFIED THAT THEY'RE ACCURATE.

UM, AND CORRECT.

UM, AND SO WE HAVE YET TO, UM, RECEIVE THAT RESPONSE AND WE'LL UPDATE BOARD AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE THAT, UM, THAT FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, TONYA WAS THE COUNTY COUNCIL ALSO CC'D ON THAT OR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JUST FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU WERE SEEKING, SEEKING THAT AS WELL.

UM, THEY WERE NOT, I CAN FORWARD TO THEM, UM, BUT I DON'T TYPICALLY SEND IT TO ALL OF COUNTY COUNCIL, UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, COPY IT TO, AND THE MAIN REASON WHY I ASK IS JUST BECAUSE THEY, THEY DO, UM, THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE PROCESS AND I THINK GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THINGS, IT MIGHT, UM, BENEFIT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE AUDITOR HAS BEEN SENT THAT LETTER AND THAT WE'RE SEEKING THAT, UM, CERTIFICATION JUST FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED TO BE AWARE OF IT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I MEAN, MR. SMITH, MR. SMITH, YOUR HAND IS UP, HE NEVER PUT IT DOWN.

MR. SMITH, ARE YOU HEARING US? NOTHING HEARD.

OKAY.

UH, MR. CAMPBELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MS. CROSBY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHEN WILL THE TAX BILLS GO OUT? UM, I DO NOT KNOW AND NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, IT HAS BEEN W UM, NOT A CONSISTENT MONTH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, SO I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IN MANY YEARS IT WAS OCTOBER.

UM, BUT IT HAS BEEN ON NOVEMBER.

AND THEN OF COURSE LAST YEAR WAS IN MARCH.

SO, UM, I'M REALLY NOT CERTAIN AS TO WHEN THOSE BILLS WILL GO OUT.

SO WILL WE GET SOME KIND OF NOTIFICATION BEFORE THE FINAL DECISION IS MADE? WHAT THE MILLAGE WILL BE BEFORE THE BILLS GO OUT, OR COULD WE FIND OUT WHAT THE MILLAGE WILL BE AFTER IT'S SENT OUT? WE TYPICALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE MILLAGE, WELL, LAST YEAR, THE, WE RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION THAT THE DEBT SERVICE MILLAGE WOULDN'T CHANGE TO 36.48.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS NO INDICATION.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY INDICATION IN MY HISTORY WITH THE DISTRICT OF, UH, NOTICE FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OF WHAT THOSE RATES WOULD BE.

UM, SO I, THERE IS NOT A TYPICAL NOTIFICATION OF THIS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF THE RATES THAT WILL GO ON THE TAX BILL THAT MAKES ME KIND OF NERVOUS.

UM, DO SOME, IF SOMEBODY NEED TO CALL MR. BECKY BECKER AND, UH, IS HE THE ONE THAT WILL MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION BEFORE IT GOES TO? WELL, THE, UM, THE COUNTY AUDITOR PREPARES THE INFORMATION THAT IS ON THE BILL, AND THEN IT IS FORWARDED OVER TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WHO I BELIEVE THEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISTRIBUTING THAT TAXPAYERS EITHER BY MAIL OR BY ONLINE, UM, ON THE TAX SYSTEM.

SO, UM, I CAN CERTAINLY SEND AN EMAIL TO ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND REQUEST INFORMATION ON THE, UM, THE DATE THAT THE TAX BILLS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.

I ASSUMED THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL, THE COUNTY, UH, HAS SENT OUT IS WAITING FOR THIS AS WELL.

IS THAT A VALID ASSUMPTION, ALL THE SAME TAX BILLS, THEY, THEIR INFORMATION IS ON THE SAME.

WELL, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO YOUR COUNTERPART AT THE COUNTY TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANY INFORMATION

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OR ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? UH, NOT ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.

UM, UM, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY, UM, REACH OUT TO HIM ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I WAS JUST KIND OF GOING TO BUILD ON WHAT YOU SAID.

I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO SEND A, AN EMAIL OR EVEN A LETTER, UM, TO THE TREASURER, AS WELL AS THE AUDITOR AND PERHAPS CC THE COUNTY COUNCIL ON IT, ON THIS ONE AS WELL, JUST TO KIND OF, UM, MAYBE GO OVER WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR AND HOW THAT IMPACTED US AND RESULTED IN THE TAN HAVING TO BE ISSUED.

UM, AND JUST SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THAT BACK ON THE TABLE AND TELL THEM WE'RE JUST SEEKING CLARITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE APPROPRIATELY.

CERTAINLY I AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

GAMBLE.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE NO DELAY THIS YEAR AND THE TAXABLE.

IT SHOULDN'T BE SO BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING STOP FROM THAT.

AND WE'RE HAVING AN YOU, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR? THERE WAS, SO THEY HAD THE SAME THING GO ON AND THEN THE COUNTY FILED SUIT.

AND I, I KINDA LIKE TO HAVE LOW ADVANCED WARNING IF, IF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN.

UM, CAUSE I WAS KINDA CONCERNED THERE.

OKAY.

DR.

GLOSS, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, MR. GUYER.

SO I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF KEEPING US IN THE LOOP.

AND SO WE'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

HOWEVER, I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE TELLING AS INDIVIDUALS OR THE COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER IS TELLING TANYA WHAT TO DO.

WE REALLY SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT.

IT SHOULD BE DR.

RODRIGUEZ.

UM, THAT SHOULD BE DECIDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, LETTER'S GOING TO GO OUT TO WHOM AND, AND WHO'S GOING TO BE COPIED ON IT.

THAT WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY THINK, UH, THE COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE MILITARY UPDATE TO THE REQUEST WAS TO HAVE THE COUNTY COUNCIL COPIED ON IT.

I ALSO THINK THE BOARD SHOULD BE COPIED ON IT, BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION THAT TANYA HAS WITH DR.

RODRIGUEZ.

SHE'S HEARD WHAT WE'VE EACH SAID.

AND I, I ABSOLUTELY CONCUR WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, UM, THOUGHTS HERE, BUT I JUST THINK WE SHOULD NOT BE DIRECTING TANYA WHAT TO DO.

IT SHOULD BE DR.

RODRIGUEZ DECIDING THAT.

DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? NO, MA'AM SURE.

I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.

THAT THAT IS MOST WITH OUR POLICY.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH THAT.

I CAN CURVE, BUT I'M CONCERNED.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TIMING.

IT'S THIS IT'S THE 14TH OF NO OF OCTOBER.

AND, UH, PLEASE, MS. CROSBY, WOULD YOU COMMUNICATE WITH DR.

RODRIGUEZ AND, UH, AND THAT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING NEXT WEEK, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, HAVE THAT IS ASK HIM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH US IN HIS REPORT OR IN YOUR REPORT TO THE FULL BOARD.

YES, SIR.

I WILL CERTAINLY SPEAK ABOUT CRIME RATES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. CROSBY, AND THANK YOU, UH, DR.

GLOSS YOU'RE WELL, OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS FISCAL AUTONOMY DISCUSSION.

I THINK YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THE COUNTY ABOUT OUR REQUEST FOR FISCAL AUTHORITY.

AND, UM, I HAD NO IDEA OF WHAT ACT 5, 3, 8 OF 1969 SAID, AND I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE, UH, MISS CARTILAGE COULD INFORM US ABOUT THAT AND TELL US WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT HER SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE TO RESPOND TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

MS. CARTILAGE, ARE YOU ON SIR? YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, THE LETTER FROM MR. PESSIMIST HAS IN THE LAST SENTENCE THAT, UH, HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITIES ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF MEETING THE OBJECTIVES THE BOARD WANTS.

SO I DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE BOARD.

I HAVE NOT, UM, BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT ACT 5 30, 8 OF 19 16, 9, YET I'M ACTUALLY OUT OF STATE AT THE MOMENT

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AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

I CAN, UM, UPDATE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH EMAIL COMMUNICATION, IF YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT.

BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THIS LETTER, IT, HE DISAGREES WITH THE ANALYSIS OF MR. HALE AGAIN AND IS STILL OPEN.

IT APPEARS TO DISCUSS ALTERNATIVE METHODS.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT EVERYBODY, WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY, WELL, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE CAN ONLY SUGGEST TO THE FULL BOARD, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT MR. HALLIGAN IF HE HASN'T SEEN THIS LETTER.

I ACTUALLY, YES, YES, SIR.

MR. GUYER, AS SOON AS I RECEIVED IT, FORWARDED IT AND MR. HALLIGAN IS NOT AVAILABLE.

HE WASN'T AVAILABLE TO BE PRESENT TODAY.

I BELIEVE HE MAY BE TRAVELING RIGHT NOW, CAUSE HE'S STILL HASN'T RESPONDED TO ME.

SO, UM, I'LL NEED TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR HIM TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ME TO DO.

DR.

.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, I THINK THE MAIN COMMENT THAT I HAVE IN REGARD TO THIS LETTER IS, UM, UH, THE TENTS THAT IT'S DINNER OR THE LANGUAGE THAT HE USES, BECAUSE IT, IT SAYS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT COUNTY COUNCIL CAN RELINQUISH THE ROLE GIVEN TO IT BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

SO THAT'S COMING FROM, IT SEEMS JUST THE CHAIR.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE FULL COUNTY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIRMAN AND AN ATTORNEY THAT CONSULTED PRIOR TO WRITING THIS LETTER.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BASICALLY ON, ON WHAT AUTHORITY THIS IS COMING FROM.

IS IT COMING FROM THE FULL AUTHORITY OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL OR THE CHAIRMAN SOLELY? UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JUST BASED ON MY FIRST AND SECOND READING OF IT.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE SEEK SOME CLARITY ON.

I AGREE, MR. STARVING HERE.

UH, THANK YOU, DEREK.

UM, I THINK THAT THE ROAD TO GO DOWN HERE TO MEET WITH JOE TO DISCUSS WHAT HIS POSSIBILITIES ARE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE FEELS THAT DICK BIG HALLIGAN IS, UH, INTERPRETATION IS, IS IN ERROR.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT GETS RESOLVED IS GOING TO COURT.

AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DRAG IT OUT IF WE CAN AVOID IT, OF GOING TO COURT ON THAT INTERPRETATION.

SO I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US, US BEING, YOU KNOW, UH, THE GROUP, WE NORMALLY SEND THEM TO MEET WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALSO GET DR.

QUESTION ANSWERED THAT WAY.

UM, I SUSPECT THERE'S AN ATTORNEY BEHIND THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THERE'S NO SHELLS IN THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S OUR NEXT STEP.

MEET WITH THEM.

SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CAMPBELL.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT GLUTEN DECODE IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE WENT TO COURT WHEN THE COUNTY WOULDN'T ASK THOSE TO THE SCHOOL AND ONE, AND IT STILL WILL NOT CHANGE DADDY TO NO.

SO I DON'T TRUST, I DON'T STOP TODAY.

UM, AND, UH, I DON'T THINK CHAIRMAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UM, IS THAT, DID THAT, WAS IT BACK IN 1969, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF CHANGED SINCE THEN, A LOT OF OTHER DISTRICT HAVE, UM, WHAT FROM, FROM THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO HAVE FULL APOSTLE OF AUTONOMY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU, HE, SOMEBODY PROBABLY CALLED TO HIM, CHRIS.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WANTED US TO GET THAT THEIR PHYSICAL, I JUST MIGHT FEAR.

OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, UH, DICK, SO SEVERAL THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE SENT OUR LETTER AND DRAFT ORDINANCE, WE SENT IT TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED IT.

I CONCURRED DARK WAS NASTY TO ME.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS, UH, UH, MR. , UH, INTERPRETATION LIKELY WITH LEGAL ADVICE AS PART OF IT.

BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, CAN WE LINK US THE ROLE? IT SAYS, I BELIEVE I AGREE WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

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I THINK SINCE WE ALREADY HIRED BIG COW HALLIGAN, WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS, WHEN ROBIN RECEIVED THIS LETTER, UH, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK, YOU KNOW, SHE AND I DISCUSSED WHO IT SHOULD BE SENT TO, AND WE SENT IT TO THE BOE AND TO MR. HALLIGAN AND TO WENDY AND TO DR.

RODRIGUEZ.

AND I BELIEVE MAYBE ALSO TANYA.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. HALLIGAN HAS IT, WE HIRED HIM TO HELP US WITH THIS.

SO I THINK HE NEEDS TO WEIGH IN, IS THIS ACCURATE WHAT MR. S PESSIMIST SAYS, NO, HE THINKS IT'S NOT ACCURATE AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE ANOTHER, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, MEETING WITH, WITH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THE MEMBERS THAT WE MET IN THE PAST WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE SMALLER MEETING OF THE BOARD AND THE, AND THE, UM, AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY IT'S JUST PURELY INFORMATIONAL.

WE CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL TO START WITH MR. HALLIGAN ANALYSIS AND, AND GET HIS ADVICE WHERE WE SHOULD GO FROM HERE.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

THANK YOU.

AND IS IT POSSIBLE? I OBVIOUSLY, WHEN HE SAYS NOT ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM, BUT PERHAPS BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING NEXT WEEK, HE COULD BE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK TO US.

AND I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN JUNE.

YEAH.

YES, HE WOULD.

WOULD YOU LIKE HIM TO BE AVAILABLE NEXT TUESDAY FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, IF POSSIBLE, AND IF HE'S NOT AVAILABLE, WOULD YOU ALL HAVE LIKED TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE THE WORK SESSION BEGINS ON A FRIDAY AS AN YEAH, THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.

I THINK FIRST YOU JUST NEED TO WEIGH AND I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO REACH HIM.

I HAVE HIS CONTACT NUMBERS.

I WILL TRY TO REACH HIM TOMORROW.

OKAY.

AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

CAUSE EXACTLY.

I MEAN, HE'S WORKING ON THIS.

IT'S, UH, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE DISCUSSING, UH, GETTING LEGAL ADVICE AND IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE FOR THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION, I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE FINE IF YOU WOULD JUST CAME BY A ZOOM.

I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO BE IN PERSON AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL WORK ON IT.

IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYONE? CAN WE DO IT AND WE HAVE TIME TO PUT IT IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH, YEAH.

SO IF I GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM TOMORROW OR ON MONDAY MORNING, WE DO.

YEAH.

I'LL WORK ON IT TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISTRACTIONS? WELCOME.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER ANTS.

OKAY.

THAT'S THAT WAS OUR LAST, UH, AGENDA ITEM.

NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

SECOND TO LAST, OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM IS FUTURE TOPICS OR DO YOU HAVE A FUTURE TOPIC? DOES YES, SIR.

UM, PROCUREMENT CODE DISCUSSION.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

WE HAVE SOME CHANGES FROM THE STATE LEVEL.

THAT'S ALL.

I'LL, I'LL REFLECT ON THAT UNTIL NEXT TIME.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? UM, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING TANYA? I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE MUFFLED AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS.

IS THAT TRUE WITH EVERYBODY IN CANNULA? YOU SOUND A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

UM, I MOVED A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.

IS THAT ANY BETTER? A LITTLE CLOSER OR I CAN USE MY HEAD, MY HEAD SAID IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S YOU, I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT IT'S NOT IDEAL.

I'LL SAY THAT.

THANK YOU.

DON'T SEE OTHER, I JUST HAD IT.

I HAD A QUESTION, UM, SORRY, TONYA.

THE, UM, THE SR UPDATES.

THOSE ARE COMING TO THE FULL BOARD NOW FROM HERE ON OUT A SECRETARY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ON TUESDAY NIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THERE ARE THEY QUARTERLY OR THE MONTHLY MONTHLY? WE'LL BE THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST.

OKAY.

SO WE ENDED UP BEING A FRIDAY.

SO WE INCLUDED THAT ONE DATE AS WELL.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

I HEAR, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.