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I LIKE TO CALL, UH, TO ORDER THE BUFORD COUNTY STORM WATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY BOARD.

UH, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF TODAY'S AGENDA.

I HAVE A SECOND MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND SECOND'S MADE ALL THOSE AGENDA IS APPROVED.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 11TH.

WE NEED TO ADJUST, UH, WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO AMEND, UH, THAT, UH, UH, NUMBER ONE THAT UNFORTUNATELY, MRS. HOWARD WAS NOT HERE, SHOWS HER AS PRESENT IN THE MINUTES.

UH, LIKEWISE, UH, THE HEAD OF, UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT REMEMBERING HIS NAME, BUT, UH, THE GOOD DOCTOR FOR THE MICROBIOLOGY LAB WAS NOT PRESENT ALSO.

AND IT SHOWS HIM AS PRESENT.

HE WAS IN THE AUDIENCE.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

SO WE'LL JUST MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT OF MRS. HOWARD ON THE MINUTES.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS OTHER THAN THE SPELLING OF MY LAST NAME, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

SECOND, SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION PASSES.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS CORRECTED.

NEXT ON THE LIST IS

[2. INTRODUCTIONS]

INTRODUCTIONS AND WE'LL START FROM THE LEFT.

PATRICK MITCHELL REPRESENTING LADY'S ISLAND.

I'M MARK FEINBERG, AND I REPRESENT UNINCORPORATED DISTRICT NINE AND THE FUSSY ISLAND, JAMES CLARK, REPRESENTING UNINCORPORATED PORT ROYAL OF BRIAN.

WALK-INS ALL AT BEAVER COUNTY AT LARGE, NOTHING HERE.

IT'S A TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

EXCUSE YOU.

I WAS HOWARD DISTRICT FOUR COUNTY COUNCIL.

STORM WATER JOANNA'S ORANGE COUNTY STORMWATER.

GREAT, WELL WELCOME EVERYONE.

UH, ESPECIALLY MRS. HOWARD AND MR. AT THIS TIME, UH, IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, THERE BEING NO PUBLIC TO COMMENT, MOVE ON TO REPORTS,

[4. REPORTS]

UTILITY UPDATE TO START.

THAT WAS RARE AFTER NOON FOR THE BEAVER COUNTY STORM WATER UTILITY UPDATE, WHERE I WANTED TO INFORM YOU ALL THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON IMPLEMENTING THE SILICO STANDARDS ACROSS, UM, THE MUNICIPALITIES WHO HAVE INDICATED THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.

WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE CITY OF BUFORD STAFF TO INCLUDE THEIR, UM, CITY, THEIR BOARD MEMBERS, UM, BRING THEIR COUNCIL PEOPLE UP TO SPEED ON WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE AND THEN STILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND, UM, THEIR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, FOR SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.

WE MIGHT NEED TO AMEND THIS.

I DID HAVE MS. DR.

MONTY COMMIT TO PARTICIPATING FOR THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING.

UM, IF IN FACT WE CAN ADJUST THE SCHEDULE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING TO DECEMBER, UM, I'LL WORK WITH HIM TO TRY AND GET HIM ON THAT AGENDA AS WELL, TO HAVE THE DATE, WE CAN FIND OUT THE DATE LATER FOR THAT DECEMBER 10TH PROPOSED OR DECEMBER MEETING, WHAT THEIR PROPOSED DATE WOULD BE.

IT WILL BE THE 14TH.

I'M SORRY, WEDNESDAY THE 15TH.

THE 15TH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, WE'LL WORK ON THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

WE'LL WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THAT.

SURE.

UM, THE CYPRESS WETLAND'S PRESENTATION WE HAD ORIGINALLY HAD THAT SCHEDULED IN THE SUMMER.

WE ARE LOOKING TO RESCHEDULE THAT FOR, UM, EARLY WINTER OF NEXT YEAR, JUST SO WE HAVE THAT UPDATE THAT WE WERE PROMISED TO GET OUT OF THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER PRESENT SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE LINED UP FOR EARLY WINTER IS GOING TO BE FROM OUR CONSULTANTS.

WOLFER, THEY'LL BE

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GOING OVER THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING ON OUR PROGRAM.

WE ARE HOSTING THOSE SESSIONS, UM, THIS WEEK.

SO ALL OF YESTERDAY, THE BEGINNING HALF OF TODAY, AND THEN TOMORROW WE'RE IN SESSION WITH WOOLFORD GOING OVER THE PROGRAM AUDIT.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAVING THEM PRESENT THOSE RESULTS AT THE END.

I'M SORRY.

IN EARLY WINTER OF NEXT YEAR, THE REPORT IS SCHEDULED TO BE DELIVERED IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

I MIGHT MAKE A NOTE THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO SUGGEST IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO PUT THEM EARLIEST ON THE CALENDAR, LOOKING THROUGH YOUR REPORTS, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.

AND, UH, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE UPDATE RIGHT AWAY IF WE COULD GET THAT IN JANUARY AND THEN MOVE THE, UH, TO LATER.

SURE.

THAT WORKS.

YEP.

THEY'RE AMENABLE TO BOTH DATES.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVE THEM PRESENT ON NOT ONLY THE WORK THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO WITH THEM, BUT THEIR RESULTS OF OUR MS. PROGRAM AUDIT.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE THEM TAKING A LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PLAN.

AND ARE YOU STORM WATER UTILITY AS A WHOLE, SO GOING TO BE REPORTING ON ALL THREE OR THE OTHER TOUR ONGOING, THERE'LL BE REPORTING ON ALL THREE.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE THE FINALIZED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE UTILITY, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO PROVIDE AT THAT TIME.

THE MS FOR REPORT AUDIT WILL DEFINITELY BE DONE BY DECEMBER.

THE OTHER TWO ARE JUST THINGS WE HAD REQUESTED.

THEY ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

SO FOR OUR DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS, UM, THE ONLY UPDATE THAT I CAN PROVIDE AT THIS TIME FOR GENTRY LOCK IS THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE PO FOR THE ATTORNEYS OPEN.

UM, AND WE HAVE GIVEN BEEN GIVEN NO FURTHER GUIDANCE ON THAT, BUT JUST TO KEEP YOU AWARE, UM, CERTAINLY WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PRESENT TO YOU ON, UM, HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE PROCEEDING AS THE COUNTY WILL HAVE THEM SCHEDULED TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE, UM, ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTS FROM THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND, UM, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

SO FOR OUR MOVING ON TO OUR MONITORING UPDATE, MR. HAMP SIMPKINS JUST WALKED IN THE SYSTEM MONITORING REPORT.

WE'VE JUST COME TO THE PARTNER, UH, PRESENTATION ABOUT THE MONITORING REPORT, THE LAB PROVIDER REPORT.

BUT IF YOU HAD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL, YOU WANTED TO SAY, OKAY, PERFECT.

WE DO STILL CONTINUE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE LAB ON, UM, COMPLETING ALL OF OUR, OUR MONITORING PLAN COMPONENTS.

I WOULD JUST ASK THE QUESTION TO THE GENTLEMEN, DR.

WARREN IS STILL IN CHARGE OF THE LABORATORY.

OH, HE ASKED IF DR.

WARREN IS CYLINDER JUST CHECKING.

YEP.

FOR OUR STORMWATER IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, THE COUNTY STAFF COUNTY STAFF PROVIDED, UM, FISCAL YEAR 21 REPORTS TO ALL OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

AND FROM THAT REPORT, WE HAD THEIR REQUESTED THE MUNICIPALITIES TO ALSO HAVE THE CWI REPORTS COMPLETED FROM FYI 18 UNTIL FYI 20.

AND THOSE WERE PRESENTED TO EACH OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, AS OF OCTOBER 5TH.

UM, AND WE'LL BE MEETING SOON TO DISCUSS THE FINDINGS OF WHAT THAT FISCAL FISCAL REPORT LOOK LIKE FOR OUR STORM WATER RELATED PROJECTS.

WE STILL CONTINUE TO MEET MONTHLY ON ALL OF THE EASEMENTS, UM, AND LEVEL OF SERVICE AND EXTENT OF SERVICE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR COUNTY STAFF, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY OR OUR FLYOVER BRIDGE, UM, REPAIR PROJECT FOR US 2 78, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

WE ARE JUST WAITING ON THE FINAL INVOICE AND, UM, CLOSE OUT FROM OUR CONTRACTOR AND WE WILL HAVE THAT CAN PROJECT CONSIDERED COMPLETED.

I KNOW LAST, LAST PRESENTATION WE PRESENTED KIND OF

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A PICTURES OF BEFORE AND AFTER WHAT THEY HAD DONE ON SITE, THEY DID A GREAT JOB VERY QUICKLY TO GET THAT PROJECT COMPLETED.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE FINAL INVOICE.

AND SO WE CAN WRAP THE PROJECT UP FOR THE SHELL POINT COMMUNITY.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY, BOTH, UM, MYSELF, BUT ALSO, UM, KIND OF SPEARHEADING THE CAMPAIGN JULIANA ON OBTAINING FUNDING FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE IN THE SHELL POINT COMMUNITY.

WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY SOUTH CAROLINA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION IS TO APPLY FOR AS MANY GRANTS AS WE CAN.

AND THEN IN HOPES THAT ONE OF THOSE WILL KIND OF STICK AND LAND FOR US.

SO WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE BRICK GRANT, BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND COMMUNITIES WE'RE APPLYING FOR THE HAZARD MITIGATION, UM, GRANT HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN GRANT.

WE ARE APPLYING FOR OUR BA IS THIS ALL FOR SHELL POINT? YES.

YES.

UM, SOME OF THESE ARE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

BRICK IS FEMA.

SO IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE GRANT APPLICATION AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE AT THE STATE LEVEL.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE, I THINK GETTING FUNDS FROM THE STATE WILL BE A LOT EASIER FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY ANYWAYS.

UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO SCHEDULE OUR NEXT TASK FORCE MEETING ON THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 25TH.

THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AS WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE, THESE GRANTS.

AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT OUR STAFF CAN DO.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO COORDINATE WITH OUR TASK FORCE MEMBERS AS WELL TO SEE WHAT ASSISTANCE THEY CAN PROVIDE, UM, AND TO UPDATE THEM ON WHERE WE'RE AT JULIANA HAS BEEN VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT GETTING THESE GRANT APPLICATIONS AHEAD OF TIME TO SEE WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE PROVIDING TO THE GOVERNMENT AND EVEN BEING AS DILIGENT AS SHE HAS BEEN.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE JUST WERE NOT EXPECTING.

SO WE'RE PLANNING ON GIVING AN UPDATE TO THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AT THAT TIME WHO MAKES UP THE TASK FORCE? THE TASK FORCE IS MYSELF JULIANA, MR. CLARK, UM, VAN WILLIS, NOAH KREPS, ALICE HOWARD, UM, SHANNON ERICSSON PARTICIPATES RATHER LARGE GROUP.

YUP.

JOHN AND JOHN AND ROBERT ARE MEMBERS OF THE SHAREPOINT COMMUNITY.

THEY RESIDENTS, EXCUSE ME, ELIZABETH PENN SANDERS FROM THE DOD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO KIND OF WE DO, AND I THINK WE HAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE GROUP FROM THOSE REPRESENTED.

WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT CAN HELP PUSH FOR OUR PROJECT TO GET FUNDING, UM, CERTAINLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND THEN HAVING ALL THE JURISDICTIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, THE DOD HAS INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY AND THEN CERTAINLY THE COUNTY AS WELL.

SO I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT TABLE.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME FOR THE ACADEMY PARK POND, BUFORD COUNTY LEGAL IS STILL HANDLING OBTAINING THIS EASEMENT, UM, AS A PART OF NEW BUSINESS, WE'LL BE VOTING TO ON THIS PROJECT TO COME INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM.

AND I'LL GIVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE DURING THAT TIME.

THE, UM, FACTORY CREEK DETENTION BASED IN NUMBER TWO, THIS IS ALSO IN THE HANDS OF BEAVER COUNTY LEGAL IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE EASEMENTS TO THE POND THAT WAS BUILT, UM, THAT DISCHARGES OUT TO ROCK SPRINGS CREEK OR THE GRAVES' PEPPER HALL PROPERTY.

WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEIR ENGINEERS AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM IN ORDER TO HAVE COMPREHENSIVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

UM, THERE ARE STILL PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW, BUT WE ARE FINDING, UM, WE ARE HAVING MORE OF THOSE PROJECTS BE APPROVED AND TO BEGIN STARTING WORK SOON.

THE ONE THAT ARE CURRENTLY REVISITING IS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THAT PROPERTY.

UM, ROSEANNE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IMPROVED AND SO ARE THE TOWNHOMES WITHIN

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THAT COMMUNITY.

AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS DO CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION ON THE REGIONAL BMP POND.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE COUNTY PARK AT THE NORTH WESTERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE ALSO CURRENTLY, UM, RETROFITTING THEIR OUTFALLS STRUCTURES FOR ONE OF THE WETLAND FINGER SYSTEMS. UM, THE OUTFALL STRUCTURES WERE REALLY NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND IN ORDER TO RETAIN THAT WATER, UM, INSTEAD OF BEING TIDALLY INUNDATED AT EVERY FLOOD EVERY CYCLE, UM, THOSE WILL BE RETROFITTED TO BE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY.

SO THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT.

NOW AT THIS TIME, I DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATE FOR THE WHITE PROPERTY.

I DO KNOW THAT THAT PROJECT HAS BEGUN GOING TO CONSTRUCTION, UM, FOR THE PORTION THAT THAT IS ON THE CITY PROPERTY.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST FOR THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN WE HAVE, AND THE NO ORDINANCE THAT IS KIND OF BACK AT THE TABLE WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM AFTER THEY RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM, UM, AN EXTERNAL ORGANIZATION.

SO FOR PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTS FOR SEOUL CREEK AND SHANKLIN ROAD, WE HAVE COMPLETED THE APPRAISALS AND ARE REQUESTING GUIDANCE FROM, UM, UPPER COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO PROCEED WITH ENTERING INTO NEGOTIATIONS ON THE PRICES FOR, FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE AGREED TO PARTICIPATE.

AND FOR THE HEBREW MEMORIAL PARK, WE ARE JUST WAITING TO ISSUE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.

WE, THIS PROJECT WAS, HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THE BUDGET CONFIRMATION, UM, TO BE FINALIZED AND APPROVED IN EUNICE TO GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THAT NOTICE.

AND ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING SHORTLY AFTER FOR THE EVERGREEN THREE 19 PROJECT.

WE HAVE EXTENDED THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT UNTIL EARLY 2022.

UM, THIS IS, DO, DO QUITE A FEW REASONS, UM, EXPERIENCED BY THE CONTRACTOR, BUT WE ARE STILL PRESENT, EXCUSE ME, PRESENT WEEKLY, UM, TO ENSURE THAT PROGRESS IS ONGOING BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION ON OUR PERMIT WITH THEM.

WE HAVE ALSO REQUESTED AN EXTENSION ON THE D HECK PERMIT, OR I'M SORRY, THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE, AND WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM DSEK STAFF AND THE THREE 19 PROGRAM ON WHETHER THAT WAS APPROVED.

UM, WE DID APPLY IN EARLY SEPTEMBER AND TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT A TWO MONTH TURNAROUND TIME.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM SOON FOR WILBERT.

WE TYPICALLY, WE'VE KIND OF JUST GIVEN A BRIEF OVERVIEW, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW JUST HOW MUCH WORK AND WHAT WE'VE EARMARKED FOR THEM TO DO, UM, ON BEHALF OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SCOPES THAT ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING AND THEN WE HAVE SCOPES THAT ARE ALREADY SORT OF LINING UP, UM, TO GET STARTED ON.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOR GENERAL SERVICES.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF A CATCHALL FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WE RECENTLY HAD A REQUEST, UM, TO HAVE AN ANALYSIS DONE ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW WE TREAT I'M SORRY, NOT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPERVIOUS AREA AND HOW WE TREAT THAT ON SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

THEY JUST DID A QUICK ANALYSIS AND PROVIDED US WITH A MEMO.

THIS WOULD GO UNDER THE GENERAL SERVICES SCOPE.

IF THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON ANY LEGAL MATTERS, THAT'LL, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL GO UNDER THE GENERAL SCOPE.

SO IT'S A CATCH-ALL FOR THEM AND WE'VE ALLOTTED $15,000.

EXCUSE ME, I'M JUST CURIOUS, DOES THIS SO THAT FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS STANDARD FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE? NO, WE HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS STANDARD FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THIS WAS QUESTIONED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

AND SO FOR DUE DILIGENCE PURPOSES, WE HAD THEM DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE WAY WE'RE CURRENTLY TREATING AND PERVIOUS, UM, OR I'M SORRY, GRAVEL DRIVEWAYS AND COMPACTED DRIVEWAYS AS IMPERVIOUS.

UM, WE HAD THEM RUN AN ANALYSIS AND WHAT THE TRUE CURVE NUMBER IS FOR IMPERVIOUSNESS ON THESE HOMES.

UM, AND WHAT THEY DETERMINED

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IS THAT OUR STANDARDS ARE IN LINE WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE IN HOW WE TREAT GRAVEL DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AREAS AS IMPERVIOUS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO THAT MEMO WAS THEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SAYING WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS, IS APPROPRIATE.

UM, CERTAINLY IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO ME, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.

THEY, THEY DID NOT THINK THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE GRAVELED DRIVEWAYS BE CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS, BUT DUE TO COMPACTION OVER TIME AND LACK OF MAINTENANCE, AS YOU WOULD SEE ON MORE OF A COMMERCIAL SITE, UM, WE'RE KEEPING OUR FOCUS WHERE IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST AN EXAMPLE, UH, SPEAKING FOR THE PREVIOUS MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD, THEY'D PROBABLY LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE BEING MORE STRICT THAN LESS STRICT.

SURE.

AND THAT'S ALL, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE STRICT FOR STRICT SAKE OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE GOALS OF OUR PROGRAM.

AND WE DETERMINED THAT WE ARE BEING IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO, WHICH WAS NICE A YEAR SCOPE.

NUMBER TWO, THIS WAS SET UP FOR $30,000.

THIS WAS COMPLETED IN EARLY SPRING OF THIS YEAR.

THIS WAS MADE UP OF TWO COMPONENTS, ONE TO TRAIN OUR INTERNAL STAFF ON HOW TO DO CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS, PLAN REVIEWS, ANYTHING RELATED TO THE UPDATE FROM THE STILL LOCAL MANUAL.

THERE WAS AN INTERNAL TRAINING FOR STAFF MEMBERS THAT INCLUDED NOT ONLY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT OUR INSPECTORS AND PLANNER VIEWERS AS WELL.

AND THEN THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THAT WAS TO HOST A TRAINING FOR THE DEVELOPERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE HAD A SAY.

SO SINCE WE BEGAN WORKING ON THIS MANUAL, BUT HERE'S THE MANUAL FINALIZED, THESE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES AND UPDATES FROM WHAT WE, HOW WE USE TO PROCEED UNDER THE BEAVER COUNTY, UM, BNP MANUAL.

SO THAT WAS COMPLETED IN EARLY SPRING OF THIS YEAR.

SCOPE NUMBER THREE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER.

WE ARE, WE ARE HAVING THE WILBERT STAFF AUDIT OUR PROGRAM AS IF THEY WERE FROM A STANDARD STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ASPECTS OF OUR MS. FOUR PERMIT.

SO CURRENTLY WE ARE WORKING THROUGH TODAY'S DAY TWO.

UM, THEY'LL HAVE MEETINGS TILL JUST AFTER FOUR TODAY, AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP WITH SOME IN THE FIELD INSPECTIONS TOMORROW MIDDAY.

SO WE'VE ALLOCATED $105,000 FOR THIS EFFORT.

AGAIN, INCLUDED IN THE AUDIT.

WE'RE ALSO HAVING THEM TAKE A LOOK AT OUR, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PLAN AND OUR STORM WATER UTILITY.

SO SCOPE NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE ALLOCATED $29,900 TO THIS IS FOR OUR TAX RUN AND, UM, UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED THE TAX YEAR 21, UM, TAX RUN, WHICH WAS SPEARHEADED BY OUR BUSINESS MANAGER, MS. CAROLYN WALLACE, THAT WRAPPED UP ON TIME.

THEY'RE VERY MINIMAL, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE COMING OUT OF THE ASSESSOR AND AUDITORS OFFICE, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR PROGRAMMING DEPARTMENT FOR HELPING PUSH HIGH QUALITY DATA FOR THE TAX RUN.

AND IN THE EVENT WE HAD, WE NEEDED ASSISTANCE BECAUSE WE HAD TOO MUCH TO DO.

WE ASKED WILPERT TO BE ON STANDBY, TO HELP ASSIST DURING THAT TIME.

UM, THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS SCOPE IS TO QA AND QC SOME OF THE OLDER DATA THAT WE HAVE THINGS THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKED AT SINCE 2015, JUST BECAUSE THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY, UM, UPGRADES OR CLASSIFICATION CHANGES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CAPTURING ALL THE IMPERVIOUS AREA IN THE COUNTY, UM, OR REMOVING IMPERVIOUS AREA AS IT RELATES TO TWO AMENDMENTS.

SO THERE, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE QA QC PORTION BEGIN IN EARLY SPRING.

I'M SORRY, I GUESS, EARLY WINTER OF NEXT YEAR.

QUESTION REAL QUICK.

BEFORE YOU GO FORWARD SCOPE THREE ON THE 105,000.

IS THAT ALSO A YEARLY THING OR IS THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS ON SCOPE THREE? THIS IS JUST A ONE-TIME THING.

OKAY.

WHAT, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT REQUIRED US TO DO THAT? NO.

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OKAY.

BUT WE'D RATHER BE PREPARED WHEN THE STATE AND FEDS DO COME KNOCKING THEN OOPS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AS PREPARED AS WE THOUGHT WE WERE.

WE STILL HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM YOUR REPORT.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING IT.

OH, THE ANNUAL REPORT.

NO, NEVER GET FEEDBACK.

OH, W W WE'RE GOING TO GET FEEDBACK ON THE SCOPE NUMBER THREE, CORRECT.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A FINALIZED REPORT FOR THAT IN DECEMBER.

AND THAT'S BASED ON WHAT STANDARDS THE STATE MS. FOUR REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING THIS AUDIT TO STAY COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE.

THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DO ENGAGE SERVICES, SUCH AS WOOLWORTHS PROVIDING FOR US TO MAKE SURE.

UM, WE PROBABLY FROM HILTON HEAD TO TOWN, THE TOWN OF HILTON HAD US CONSIDERED IT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT PULLED THE TRIGGER ON, ON ASSISTANCE WITH THAT.

WE HAD THE LIVE VERSION LAST YEAR WHEN THE STATE CAME IN AND AUDITED OUR PROGRAM.

UH, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE ALARM AT THE PRICE OF A HUNDRED, 5,000 FOR AN AUDIT.

AND IF DID WE PUT A BID OUT FOR THAT AUDIT? AND WAS THERE THREE OTHER COMPANIES THAT WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AUDIT AT A DECREASE PRICE? WE DID NOT PUT THIS OUT FOR BID BECAUSE THEY'RE ON CALL THEY'RE ON ON-CALL CONSULTANT AND THEY HAVE A BUDGET AMOUNT EVERY YEAR TO DO SERVICES FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS FELL IN LINE WITH THE BUDGET OF THAT.

YEAH.

UM, GOT A SECOND.

NO, I WAS JUST ALARMED AT THAT 105,000 FOR AUDIT THAT THEY'RE TAKING A VERY DEEP DIVE.

THIS, THIS AUDIT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE EARLY MAY, UM, WHERE I HAD TO PROVIDE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION.

AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY'VE DONE THEIR REVIEW NEXT THERE, WE WERE HAVING THIS SERIES OF INTERVIEWS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN EXTRACT FROM US.

UM, AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT MEETING OUR COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN AFTER THE INTERVIEWS, THERE'LL BE GOING INTO REPORT WRITING MODE.

SO IT IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING, YOU SAY THAT THERE'S INTERVIEWS, HAS THERE BEEN OTHER LIKE BACK AND FORTH ONCE YOU GAVE THEM ALL THE INFORMATION? WAS THERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND STUFF FROM THEM, ALL THE ITEMS THAT THEY REQUESTED OR ASKED ABOUT? THEY GAVE ME A SERIES OF THINGS I NEEDED TO PROVIDE.

AND THEN AFTER THEIR REVIEW OF WHAT WAS PROVIDED, I THINK THEY ONLY CAME BACK AND ASKED ME ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

YEAH.

SO EVERYTHING HAD BEEN PROVIDED OTHER THAN, UM, TWO DOCUMENTS.

SO WHICH WE ARE STILL WORKING ON LOCATING.

UM, THERE, THERE, I JUST HAVE TO FIND THEM.

SO, UM, SCOPE NUMBER FIVE, WE HAD INITIATED CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, WILBERT DID TO DO A DRAINAGE STUDY FOR THE BUCK WALTER PARKWAY AND, UM, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, UM, IN ORDER TO GET THIS SCOPE DONE, WE ALSO NEEDED TO HAVE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ON BOARD AND IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON STAFF, AS WELL AS INTERNAL STAFF, WE DETERMINED THAT THIS SCOPE WASN'T NECESSARY, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD ON BASED ON HOW WE'RE BOTH MANAGING OUR PROGRAMS. SO THAT WHAT WOULD THAT OF STUDY FELL? WOULD THAT STUDY HAVE FALLEN ON BLUFFTON TO DO THAT, TO BUDGET IN THEIR OWN BUDGET.

FOR THAT STUDY, WE DID REQUEST THAT THEY PARTICIPATE IN FUNDING.

UM, WE WERE NOT PLANNING ON ALLOCATING MUCH FUNDS TO THIS, BUT, UM, AND BLUFFTON WAS WILLING TO PARTICIPATE, BUT IN CONVERSATIONS, LIKE I SAID, WITH, WITH HOW THEY MANAGE THEIR DEVELOPMENT GROWTH AND HOW WE MANAGE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH, WE KIND OF DETERMINED IT, IT WASN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH, UM, GETTING THE STUDY DONE.

SO SCOPE NUMBER SIX, THIS IS FOR A PROPERTY OFF OF MIDDLE ROAD.

ON LADY'S ISLAND.

WE HAVE A LOCATION WITH KNOWN FLOODING ISSUES AND THERE IS A PROPERTY CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS KNOWN FLOODING AREA THAT WE WANTED TO FIND OUT.

IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SMALL BMP THAT THE COUNTY COULD PUT ON THIS PROPERTY, PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND PUT ON THIS PROPERTY TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

UM, THROUGH THEIR VERY THOROUGH STUDY, THEY DETERMINED

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THAT WE REALLY WEREN'T GOING TO GET AS MUCH BANG FOR OUR BUCK, UM, IN PUTTING A BNP IN, UM, THE ONLY TIME WHERE WE WOULD SEE A REAL BENEFIT FOR FLOODING WOULD BE AT THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM LEVEL.

SO EVERYTHING TO 10 25 AND 50, THE WORD WE'RE GOING TO SEE MUCH HELP AT ALL.

UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION IT'S WRITTEN HERE THAT CONTINUOUSLY FLOODED PROPERTY.

SO IT'S FLOODING NOW RIGHT NOW.

I COULDN'T SAY SO, BUT I DON'T MEAN TODAY, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR, FOR 2050.

IT, IF YOU READ THIS, IT SAYS CONTINUOUSLY FLOODED PROPERTY.

MEANING RIGHT NOW WE'RE EXPERIENCING FLOODING ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

THERE IS THAT I GUESS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO STATE THAT YES, IT IS, IS ESSENTIALLY THE BOTTOM OF A BOWL.

NOW, IS THIS SIMILAR TO THE, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN ALL JOY WHERE IT'S IT'S TITLE AND NOT STORM WATER RELATED, IT IS NOT TITLE NOW.

OKAY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO W WE, WE, SO WE STILL HAVE TO, I ASSUME THAT YOU ALL STILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PREVENT THE FLOODING AND EVEN IF IT, EVEN IF CREATING A BMP ON THIS CENTRAL PROPERTY IS NOT THE ANSWER.

YES.

SO THIS WAS JUST A SMALL PUZZLE PIECE TO PLUG INTO A LARGER DRAINAGE STUDY, WHICH IS I THINK, OKAY.

YES.

SO THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE LINKED.

YEAH.

YES.

OKAY.

AND ANY ANSWER THAT WE GOT OUT OF SCOPE, NUMBER SIX FOR TURTLE LANE WAS STILL GOING TO BE AN ANSWER, WHETHER IT'S THE ONE WE WANTED TO HEAR OR NOT, AND WHAT THEIR DETERMINATION WAS IS THEY WOULD ENCOURAGE BUFORD COUNTY TO TAKE ACTION, UM, IN SOME CAPACITY TO ENSURE THAT NO DEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR ON THAT SITE, WHICH IS ONLY GOING TO INCREASE THE ISSUES FOR THAT, THE FLOODING, RIGHT? YES.

SO NOW WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, GETTING APPROVAL TO PURCHASE POTENTIALLY PURCHASE OR REZONE THAT PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE BOWL.

AND IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT THAT ADDS TO THE PROBLEM.

YES.

SO THAT'S THE PART THAT NEEDS TO BE ATTENDED TO SURE.

I, I DON'T DISAGREE.

UM, WE HAVE EXPRESSED TO THE ZONING DEPARTMENT THAT SHOULD PERMITS FOR THAT PROPERTY, THE PROPERTIES THAT BORDER, THE KIND OF THE BOWL ARE LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY FOR WHAT THEIR INCREASE IN FLOODING ISSUES COULD HAPPEN.

UM, AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL THUS FAR AND THUS FAR.

AND, AND, UM, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HAS GONE TO DEVELOPMENT WE'VE THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THEIR DRAINAGE PLAN AND HAVE DETERMINED THAT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA VERSUS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE THEIR ONSITE RUNOFF VERSUS HOW LARGE THEIR PROPERTY ACTUALLY IS IN COMPARISON THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM.

SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS LITTLE STUDY WAS DONE IN, IN THE CAPACITY TO MAKE SURE IT PLUGGED INTO THIS LARGER LADY'S ISLAND DRAINAGE PLAN.

THAT PROPERTY MAY BE VALUABLE FOR THIS LARGER STUDY, UM, DOING IT IN THAT.

SO JUST FOCUSING ON THAT ONE AREA WASN'T ENOUGH, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AS PART OF OUR BROAD BROADER STUDY FOR NORTHERN LADY'S ISLAND, WHICH INCLUDES THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ROYAL PINES, UM, A FEW PROPERTIES ALONG THE MIDDLE ROAD, AND THEN SOME OFF OF SAM'S POINT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE SCOPES THAT WE HAVE SCOPED NUMBER SEVEN.

UM, IT IS, WE ARE STILL REVIEWING THEIR PROPOSAL, BUT PRELIMINARY INFORMATION FROM ARKANSAS SUGGESTED A STUDY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE.

AND WHO'S GOING TO COST BETWEEN 150 AND $300,000.

IT'S IMPORTANT THOUGH, AS THE PRICE INCREASES.

SO DOES THE QUALITY OF THE MODEL THAT THEY CREATE.

SO THE MORE THEY CAN GET INTO THE FIELD AND DO A LOT OF VERIFICATION, IT'S A LOT MORE EFFORT, BUT WE GET A MUCH BETTER MODEL OUT OUT OF IT.

SO I WOULD ASK ONLY ONE QUESTION THAT 150 TO $300,000, DO YOU HAVE THAT EARMARKED IN YOUR BUDGET? YES.

OKAY.

WE'VE WE HAVE FUNDED THEM WITH A HOLISTIC NUMBER, AND SO WE CAN KIND OF PIECE MEAL AS NEEDED OUT OF THAT.

UM, THE SCOPES ARE

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SEPARATE OF, WE JUST DO THAT FOR TRACKING PURPOSES FOR BUDGETING AND WHETHER YOU NEEDED MORE MONEY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE NUMBER.

IT IS.

AND CERTAINLY WITH THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY COULD LEAD TO FUTURE CIP PROJECTS, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHICH IS DEFINITELY AN FY 23.

SO, AND THEN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE RADAR FOR THEM, WE'VE KIND OF INITIATED SOME OF THE CONVERSATION, DON'T HAVE ANY FORMAL PROPOSALS YET FROM THEM.

UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE ARTHUR HORN PARK IN, UM, THE CITY OF BUFORD JURISDICTION TO REHAB, UM, A CURRENT COUNTY PARK.

THAT'S JUST BEEN SORT OF LEFT IN SHAMBLES SINCE HURRICANE MATTHEW.

UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'VE BECOME AWARE OF IS THERE'S, UM, CONTINUOUS FLOODING COMING FROM THIS, THIS PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT APPLYING FOR A THREE 19 GRANT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BUFORD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING A, UH, WATER QUALITY WATER QUANTITY, AND, UM, A COMMUNITY PARK OUT OF THIS PROPERTY.

SO RETROFITTING THE EXISTING WETLAND INTO SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE A BENEFIT, UM, AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THEY, UM, THE PERMIT, I'M SORRY, THE GRANT APPLICATION OPENS IN FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR AND CLOSES IN MARCH.

SO IT'S A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH OUR WATERSHED MANAGER, UM, AS WELL AS THE PARTICIPATING MUNICIPALITIES AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT, A GREAT PROJECT AND REALLY HELP, UM, IN THAT COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO HAVE THEM GIVING US A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE BATTERY CREEK POND THAT IS ON THE GRAZE PROPERTY, UM, JUST ACROSS FROM THE WALMART TEACHING MAX SHOPPING AREA.

UM, AND I'LL HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE AND UNDER NEW BUSINESS ON THAT.

BUT, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY AND GET A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO IMPROVE, IMPROVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED THEM IN CONVERSATIONS FOR A ST HELENA DRAINAGE STUDY.

UM, THIS'LL BE COMPREHENSIVE OF THE WHOLE ISLAND, BUT WE'LL BE SORT OF A REIGN ON GRID MODEL TO SHOW WHERE WE HAVE SOME EXISTING ISSUES AND HOW WE CAN PREVENT, UM, ANY DEVELOPMENTS FROM COMING IN AND EXACERBATING ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.

SO TO HAVE A REAL GOOD BASELINE QUALITY MODEL OF WHAT THAT WATERSHED LOOKS LIKE.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT BEING SOMEWHERE JUST SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHAT THE NORTHERN LANEY'S ISLAND PLAN COST WOULD BE, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, THE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE HECK, YOU HAVE CHANGED OUR DEADLINE TO PRESENT THAT REPORT UNTIL APRIL OF 2022.

AND SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TAKEN OFF OF MY SHOULDERS FOR THEM TO JUST DO FOR ME, IT'S, IT'S ON THE TABLE FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, SCOPES ON THE COUNTY.

UH, I KNOW IT'S A CONTENTIOUS SUBJECT, BUT I KNOW MATT WAS SUPPOSED TO, UH, DO A RIDE AROUND, UH, UH, ON THE ALL JOY AREA.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE MINUTES ABOUT ALL JOY, UH, HAPPENING.

UH, ARE WE GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE SCOPE FOR THE FUTURE? DO WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO KICK IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY CAR? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A CONTENTIOUS AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AT THE LAST MEETING.

AFTER THE PUBLIC MEETING, I TOOK A RIDE OUT THERE TWO WEEKS AGO AND I CAUGHT THE STATE DOD OUT THERE DOING SOME WORK, CLEARING SOME, UM, ROADKILL, BUT THEY ALSO WERE, UM, DIGGING OUT SOME DITCHES IN THE SORE SPOTS IF I MAY, UH, THEY DID QUITE A BIT OF WORK, BUT IT BROUGHT IT UP TO AREAS THAT WERE OUR RESPONSIBILITY THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE YET, BUT PROBABLY NEED TO BE PLANNED ON AND COORDINATED.

BUT I DID NOTICE DOTD DID QUITE A BIT OF WORK OUT THERE AT THE BOAT RAMP AREA OF ALL JOY.

SURE.

WE, TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE COORDINATION, WE DO WORK ELIZABETH, UM, WITH DOD, AS WELL AS TYLER WARD.

WE HAVE INITIATED MONTHLY MEETINGS FOR THIS EXACT

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PURPOSE.

SO IF THEY ARE PLANNING ON BEING IN THE ALL JOY AREA, IF WE'RE MADE AWARE, WE CAN ALSO COME IN, UM, BEFORE THEM, OR AFTER THEM TO CLEAN UP OUR PORTIONS, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN OUR COORDINATION.

YEAH.

I JUST NOTICED THEY WERE OUT THERE.

THEY HAD HEAVY EQUIPMENT, THEY WERE DIGGING OUT DITCHES.

THEY WERE FIXING THE STATE MAINTAINED AREA THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

BUT AGAIN, AGAIN, UM, I DID DEGRESS THAT OUR AREAS JUST NEED TO BE COORDINATED TO FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED ON OUR RESPONSIBLE AREAS, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, I GUESS THEY NEED TO LET YOU KNOW THEY'VE DONE THAT.

UM, SO ALL JOY IS STILL ON OUR RADAR.

OKAY.

I JUST, WHEN YOU SAY COUNTY RADAR, AND IT'S NOT THERE, I JUST, FOR WARFARE, JUST FOR THE CONSULTANTS.

YES.

SO IN THESE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITH SOUTH CAROLINA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION, THEY HAVE ENCOURAGED US TO APPLY FOR THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT.

AND WHAT THAT GRANT WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS TO HAVE A STUDY DONE OF ASSESS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA.

AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE OF THAT GRANT IS TO GET THE ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OUT OF IT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

RIGHT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OBTAINING THAT GRANT FOR GETTING THE STUDY DONE.

YES, YES.

UM, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW GRANTS GOING ON.

THE WINDOW FOR OPENING WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH.

UM, AND SOME OF THESE HAVE A, I WANT TO SAY A SOFT CLOSE, BUT A DEADLINE OF EITHER NOVEMBER 3RD OR NOVEMBER 19TH.

CERTAINLY YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPLY INFORMATION AFTER THAT TIMEFRAME, BUT YOU LOSE POINTS WHEN YOU'RE NOT COMPLETING THE GRANT APPLICATION ON TIME.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY AWARE OF OCTOBER HAS BEEN AND WILL BE A VERY BUSY MONTH FOR MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF.

SO, AND THE JULIANA IS WORKING ON THAT, THOSE GRANTS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YES.

UM, YES, FOR REGIONAL COORDINATION A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER NOW, UM, WE DO STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE U S CB LAB STAFF ON OBTAINING, UM, OUR MONITORING INFORMATION FROM THE MACIAS MOSSY OAKS, UM, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES AT THIS TIME FOR THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED.

ONE THING I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THE COUNTY HAS SIGNED IGS WITH THE TOWN OF BMSE AS WELL AS THE CITY OF BUFORD FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH, UM, CITY OF BUFORD STAFF ON IS DRAINAGE STUDY FOR THE POINT, SO THAT WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL BE HAVING A STAKEHOLDER MEETING NEXT WEEK AND LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND HOW WE, HOW WE WILL PARTICIPATE, BUT WE'LL BE COORDINATING ON THAT TOGETHER.

AND CERTAINLY WITH THE CITY OF BUFORD, AS WELL AS THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, WE COORDINATE ON THE ARTHUR HORN PARK AS WELL AS WHAT'S GOING ON IN SHELL POINT.

SO FOR OUR MUNICIPAL REPORTS, WE DID RECEIVE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

UM, JEFF, IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

YEAH.

SO WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE SHORT STAFFED AND A LITTLE BUSY WITH THE TURBULENCE AND ALL THE CHANGES IN THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

UH, UH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF GRANTS.

WE'RE GOING TO PRINT GRANTS FOR ONE AFTER IT AS WELL, IMPROVE RESILIENCY RELATED A COUPLE OF OUR PUMP STATIONS, UM, ADDING SOME BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICES AND, AND, UH, GETTING MORE ROBUST TO BREE SCREENS TO PROTECT THE PUMPS AND MAKE THEM MORE EFFECTIVE DURING STORMS. OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NO NOTHING REALLY MAJOR GOING ON.

UM, WE'RE RELIEVED TO HAVE, UH, A BETTER TIMEFRAME TO PUT THE ANNUAL REPORTS TOGETHER THOUGH, THAT MOVE THAT SHIFT TO APRIL WAS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US.

SO WE'RE NOT CRAMMING EVERYTHING IN, I HAVE THE TIME TO GET IT DONE.

YOU WOULDN'T BE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU'RE ON THE OLD PUSHING FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WE'RE WE, I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY LOCATIONS IN THE STATE RMS SCORES THAT WE'RE REPORTING ON A DIFFERENT CYCLE THAN ALL THE OTHERS.

SO WE, WE MET WITH D HECK TO GET APPROVAL ON AMENDING WHAT OUR SPECIAL LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN WE ALL THREE DECIDED THAT BEFORE THE END OF APRIL, 2022, AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS, THE END OF APRIL, WE'D PROVIDE OUR ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR.

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SO WE TOLD THEM THAT'S WHERE WE WERE DOING.

HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.

SO THAT'S HOW EVERYTHING YOU SAID TO THE STATE SEEMS TO JUST SIT THERE WITH NO FEEDBACK AT ALL ON ANYTHING.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT'S, WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR MS FOR IMPORTING.

WE CONTINUE TO STAY VERY BUSY DESPITE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD WITH APPLICATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.

UM, LAST MONTH I THINK WE ISSUED 50 NEW PERMITS.

SO THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO REMAIN ACTIVE, NOT ONLY FROM AN INSPECTION POINT OF VIEW, BUT ALSO, UM, A PLAN REVIEW AND PERMITTING POINT OF VIEW AS WELL.

SO, UM, AGAIN, IT'S, WE STAY VERY BUSY, OUR STAFF INNER GOV SOFTWARE, I'M SORRY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, ALAN, COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT SHE HAS PROVIDED HER REPORT IN THE, UM, IN THE PACKET.

ONCE ONE NOTE, I'LL SAY THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE PARTICIPATED IN THE FROGMORE 5K, UM, AS AN EDUCATIONAL EVENT AND OPEN HOUSE AT THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT ON LADY'S ISLAND.

AND, UM, DESPITE THE TIME AND THE WEATHER, WE HAD A FAIRLY DECENT TURNOUT, UM, NOT ONLY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT OUR STORMWATER PROGRAM, BUT ALSO THE EDUCATION PROGRAM AS WELL THAT WE HAVE WITH ELLEN.

SO WE WERE BOTH THERE HAD A GREAT TIME.

UM, AND THEN LATER THIS MONTH WE DO HAVE THE POND CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 26TH, THEN OCTOBER 27TH.

UM, THAT'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT, DURING THE NEXT MEETING, HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WAS, BUT I KNOW THE MS. FOUR IS, ARE ALL WORKING ON A PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE JURISDICTIONS, AS IT RELATES TO PONDS AND OTHER TYPES OF MAINTENANCE, AND THEN MYSELF, AS WELL AS MICHAEL KLINK, OUR CONSULTANT FOR THE EVERGREEN PROJECT, WE'LL BE PRESENTING AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

THAT'LL BE ON THE 27TH.

SO, AND THEN FOR OUR STAFF UPDATE, UM, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE MISS JOANNA ZARIN ON BOARD.

SHE STARTED SEPTEMBER 20TH WITH US LAST MONTH, AND SHE HAS BEEN NOT ONLY A DELIGHT TO HAVE ON BOARD WITH THE REST OF OUR STAFF, BUT SHE'S BEEN VERY DILIGENT AND HIGHLY MOTIVATED.

AND SHE'S TAKING ON THIS ROLE LIKE A CHAMPION.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HER.

I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY FOR MATT'S GROUP, THAT THEY HAVE SUCH A GREAT PERSON ON THEIR TEAM.

I'LL JUST SAY FROM A UTILITY, UH, WELCOME.

AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE ON BOARD.

WE ARE STILL ADVERTISING FOR THE MANAGER, UM, ADMIN ASSISTANT.

UM, BUT AT THIS TIME, NO, NO SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATES.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL GIVE IT TO MS. HOWARD.

UM, I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO REPORT EXCEPT WE DID HAVE, WE'RE HAVING SOME GOOD TASKFORCE MEETINGS AND WE HAD A GOOD PUBLIC MEETING.

UM, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING IN ALL JOINED, BUT I THINK THE ONE WE HAD IN SHAREPOINT WORK REALLY WELL, I FORGOT THE DAY.

UM, IT WAS AN OFFICE JOB PRESENTING IN CONTRACTOR.

JIM WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING TO THEM.

AS FAR AS THE COUNTY, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ON THE STATUS OF THE MILITARY STORMWATER ISSUE AT ALL.

IT'S KIND OF BEEN QUIET ABOUT THAT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING GOING ON WITH THAT.

JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU, WE'RE NOT CHARGED FOR ANY TIME OUT AGAIN AGAINST THIS, THE ATTORNEYS, UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY STAFFS IN PURSUING THIS, ARE WE QUESTION RHETORICAL? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SHARON, WE'RE NOT CHARGING ANYTHING FOR INTERNAL LEGAL STAFF, THAT'S WORKING ON IT, BUT WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH AN OUTSIDE LEGAL FIRM, JANUARY LOCK, AND THEY ARE ON CONTRACT WITH US.

THEY ONLY CHARGED FOR SERVICES THAT ARE RENDERED SO UP UNTIL THIS POINT, THERE HAS BEEN REALLY NO SERVICES RENDERED.

THERE MAY BE SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF LEGAL REVIEW AND DOCUMENT REVIEW UP TO THIS POINT.

AND A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THEY'VE SET UP, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL

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PAY THEM FOR THAT.

BUT FROM A FORMAL KIND OF LITIGATION STANDPOINT, THERE'S NO CHARGES BECAUSE THERE HADN'T BEEN, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

THERE WAS NO RETAINER SHIP.

WE DID IT.

I TH I BELIEVE IT WAS THAT AS OUR BASIS AND AS THEY SPENT THE TIME, UH, WORKING FOR BUFORD COUNTY.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY WHATEVER TIME THIS HAS BEEN SO FAR, WE WILL PAY THEM FOR, UM, AS NEEDED AS THEY INVOICE US.

I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN A POLITICAL FOOTBALL FOR SO LONG AND W WITHOUT HARDLY ANY MOVEMENT AND A LOT OF, UH, I GUESS, UH, UH, SOME PEOPLE ON THE UTILITY AND, AND WITHIN BUFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT, THAT, THAT WE SHOULDN'T PURSUE THIS BECAUSE OF, UH, THE OTHER ISSUES THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, FINANCIALLY ARE PRUDENT TO THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITY.

SO, AND GOING THIN.

AND IT'S ALSO A COMPLEX ISSUE IS IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PURSUE DELINQUENT FEES.

AND SO WE ARE NOW LOOKING TO SEE HOW, IF, IF WE NEED TO AMEND OR TO MODIFY THAT ORDINANCE.

SO THAT WAY WE ARE NOT BEING IN VIOLATION OF OUR OWN ORDINANCES THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

WELL, BASICALLY AT THIS POINT, I'M WAITING ON LEGAL REVIEW FOR US TO GET SOME DIRECTION, ALSO WANT TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND UPPER MANAGEMENT TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.

AND THEN IF THERE IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, WE WILL BRING IT TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THREE READINGS AND FOR ADOPTION MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I AGREE.

IT'S, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS FROM THE MUSE FROM TWO MUNICIPALITIES, UH, ASKING US TO NOT TO PURSUE IT, AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ORDINANCE COMPONENT THAT WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT TO AMEND SO THAT WE ARE NOT IN SELF VIOLATION.

GOTCHA.

MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU.

HERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU, UH, MOVING,

[5A. Infrastructure Maintenance Timeline]

UH, ONTO, UH, UNFINISHED BUSINESS INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE TIMELINE.

SO IN THE LAST MEETING, WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT WHAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE QUITE A FEW YEARS BETWEEN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF COUNTY OWNED INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT THE INTERNAL COUNTY STAFF ARE DOING NOW IS LOOKING AT A PRIORITIZATION LIST, UM, OF PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE OF A PROACTIVE ORGANIZATION VERSUS REACTING TO PROBLEMS. UM, THIS IS ALSO PART OF WHAT WOLPERT IS DOING AS FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, HELPING US PRIORITIZE WHERE WE SHOULD BE.

SO WE'RE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

UM, AND THEN, LIKE I MENTIONED, PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS, JUST PRETTY POE PRELIMINARILY TO DETERMINE IF, UM, WE NEED TO CONTRACT OUT SOME, SOME OF OUR MORE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS TO, UM, ACCOMPANY VERSUS HAVING US TRY AND HANDLE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, AND EMERGENCY SITUATIONS IN HOUSE.

SO AGAIN, JUST VERY PRELIMINARILY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD FOR FYI 23, UM, THE BUDGET PROCESS HAS STARTED AS OF LAST WEEK.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF WHAT WE CAN TO ENSURE WE CAN FUND IT FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO IT IS STILL THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IT CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVING WHAT THAT TIMELINE AND TURNAROUND LOOKS LIKE FOR OUR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH, YOU CAN STAY AT THE PODIUM IF YOU WISH, AND WE CAN MOVE TO NEW BUSINESS, NEW BUSINESS.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW UPDATES THAT, UM, TWO OF WHICH ARE WILL REQUIRE, UM, VOTES.

UM, THE

[6A. SoLoCo Design Manual Updates]

FIRST ONE BEING SO LOCAL MANUAL UPDATES.

EVERY TIME WE WANT TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO OUR MANUAL, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE IT APPROVED BY THE UTILITY BOARD, OUR, OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE, AND THEN COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THREE READINGS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THESE AMENDMENTS BE, UM, GO LIVE AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2022.

UM, IF YOU CAN PULL THOSE UP,

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SHOULD JUST BE THE NEXT SLIDE AGAIN.

UM, REALLY VERY MINIMAL UPDATES, BUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THIS JUST AS A POLICY ACCEPTANCE AT THE BOARD LEVEL, UM, WE DO NEED YOU ALL TO VOTE.

AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOME OF THE CHANGES.

WELL, ALL OF THE REAL CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE, UM, SOME OF THESE WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, BASED ON WHAT OUR GUIDANCE WAS WHEN THE MANUAL WENT LIVE LAST YEAR.

UM, SOME OF THESE HAVE COME UP THROUGH DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES WE'VE HAD AND WAYS TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROGRAM.

THAT WHICH THE FIRST OF WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE DO HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE LOGGERS COME IN AND CLEAR, CUT A PROPERTY FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DON'T REQUIRE PROOF OF A SILVICULTURE PERMIT, WHICH KIND OF WEAKENS OUR ENFORCEMENT, UM, ON THAT.

SO WITH THESE SILVER CULTURE ACTIVITIES, WE DO REQUIRE THAT YOU PROVE THAT YOU HAVE A SILVER CULTURAL PERMIT TO BE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITHIN THE COUNTY.

OTHERWISE YOU WOULD FALL UNDER THE TRADITIONAL, UM, SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL REQUIREMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE THE EXISTING PREVIOUS, UM, POLICY TO, AND THIS IS THE NEW ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE EXISTING POLICY, AND THEN THE CHANGES LOOKING AT MAKING THE PROPOSALS IN RED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO SECTIONS, I THINK ON THE NEXT SCREEN WHERE WE HAVE DELETED THINGS, IT JUST HAS THEM CROSSED OUT.

AND IF WE HAD ADDED LANGUAGE AFTER THAT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

SO, OKAY.

CAN YOU GO BACK? THANK YOU.

CHAPTER TWO, WHEN THE SOLO MADE, SO LOGO MANUAL FIRST CAME OUT, WE HAD BETTER SITE DESIGN AS AN OPTION TO GET PEOPLE FAMILIAR AND READY WITH THAT CONCEPT.

COME JANUARY 1ST, 2022.

AND DURING THIS LAST YEAR, WE'VE HELD MEETINGS WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LEADERSHIP TO ENSURE THAT THE PRINCIPLES OF BETTER SITE DESIGN, WE'RE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDARDS.

AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT OUR STANDARDS WERE VERY SIMILAR IF NOT EXACT, UM, BUT THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A MECHANISM OF ENFORCING SOME OF THOSE ROLES.

AND WITH US IN STORMWATER NOW REQUIRING THE PRINCIPLES THAT THEY REQUIRE OR SHOULD BE REQUIRING AND THEIR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, WE JUST HAVE AS MORE UNITED FRONT WHEN WE HAVE THESE BIG PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN, WHICH NO LONGER RECOMMENDATION, NO, IT IS NOT NO LONGER, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED IT IS REQUIRED.

UM, PART OF THE BETTER SITE DESIGN PRINCIPLES, UM, IS A VERY, THEY'VE GOT A SIX STEP PROCESS.

UM, AND BECAUSE THE PROCESS FOR THE PRINTER PRELIMINARY PLAN, HE GOES TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

YOU CAN SEE IT, THEY'RE ALL SCRATCHED OUT.

THAT PROCESS IS ALMOST EXACTLY SIMILAR TO WHAT A CONCEPT PLAN IS.

AND SO WE DETERMINED THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A NECESSARY PORTION OF THE REVIEW PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH CAPTOR CAPTURED IN THE, UM, SITE PROSPECTING, UM, THE, THE PRE APPLICATION AND THEN THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SO WE'RE REMOVING THAT LANGUAGE JUST TO KEEP IT SIMPLIFIED FOR NOT ONLY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO OUR STAFF, BUT REMOVING THAT LANGUAGE DOES NOT WEAKEN ANYTHING IN OUR REQUIREMENTS IN ANY WAY.

HAS ALL OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGE HAS BEEN AT LEAST OVERLOOKED BY LEGAL FOR LEGALITIES PURPOSES.

HE, THEY WILL BE, BUT AFTER YOU GUYS DECIDE, YEAH, THERE'S A LEGAL REVIEW PART OF THIS AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT WAS, YEAH.

I WOULD PREFER BEFORE VOTING ON IT, THAT LEGAL LOOKED AT IT TO SAY, YES, WE'RE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO VOTE ON IT AND THEN NOT PUT THE HORSE BEFORE THE CARRIAGE.

WELL, I THINK IN THIS CASE, IF WE CHOOSE, IF WE THINK THAT THESE CHANGES ARE ACCEPTABLE FROM OUR VIEWPOINT, THEN WE CAN GO FORWARD.

IF WE WERE TO SAY, NO, WOULDN'T GET THE LEGAL AT ALL.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY FROM, FROM MY POSITION, WE CAN ALL AGREE WITHOUT TAKING A VOTE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THIS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LEGAL HAS THE FINAL SAY, OKAY, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, FROM A TECHNICAL BASIS, NOT A LEGAL BASIS, WE CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE.

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YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND HOW OUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IS WE CANNOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MANUAL WITHOUT IT COMING THROUGH.

UM, AGAIN, YOUR APPROVAL COMMITTEE APPROVAL AND COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SOME PLACES THEY'VE KIND OF WRITTEN THEMSELVES OUT.

I THINK TRADITIONALLY WHEN WE'VE UPDATED OUR PREVIOUS MANUAL, WE JUST DIDN'T, DIDN'T TELL ANYONE.

AND IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE IN THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN, THERE'S A LOT OF MAZE IN THERE AND IT'S GOOD.

I THINK IT'S BEING STRICKEN BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO SHELLS OR MUSTS IN THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF MAYS, UH, THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOOD THAT IT DOES.

IT'S NOT THERE AT LEAST TOO MANY VARIANCES.

RIGHT.

UM, YES.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK BY REMOVING THIS LANGUAGE WHERE WE'RE RESTRICTED, WE'RE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THAT LANGUAGE.

YES.

YES.

UM, AND THEN DURING THESE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WITH NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, WE WANTED TO, THERE'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIST.

THEY HAVE FOUR THINGS THEY WANT TO SEE ON A NATURAL RESOURCES INVENTORY, BUT OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE ISN'T NEARLY AS THAT RESTRICTIVE.

AND SO WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH AS A GROUP TO DETERMINE WHAT COULD BE REMOVED FROM THE NATURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND WHAT NEEDED TO STAY.

SO THIS SLIDE, AS WELL AS THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE RESULT OF HAVING THOSE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE ALL STILL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT, THE CONSULTATION MEETING, AGAIN, THIS IS HANDLED THE CONSULTATION MEETING REALLY, WE HANDLE AT THE PRELIMINARY, THE PRE-APPLICATION AND CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, THIS WAS JUST AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT STAFF FEELS IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR STANDARDS.

UM, SO WE'LL NEED TO REMEMBER THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A FORMATTING THING.

UM, WE'VE ALSO ADDED LANGUAGE FOR OUR COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR IN OUR APPENDIX D AS WELL AS CHAPTER TWO.

THERE'S A LIST OF EVERYTHING REQUIRED TO BE PRESENT AT FINAL AND CONCEPTUALLY CONCEPTUAL PLAN LEVEL.

AND ODDLY ENOUGH, THE COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO USE WAS NOT REQUIRED TO PRESENT AT FINAL CONSENT FINAL APPROVAL.

SO WE'VE ADDED THAT LANGUAGE IN, THEY NEED TO SHOW THEIR COMPLIANCE CALCULATIONS AS PART OF THE FINAL APPROVAL PROCESS.

AND THEN OUT OF THE, WAS OUT OF THAT WILBERT SCOPE WE DID REGARDING GRAVEL AND IMPERVIOUS AREA.

WE DID HAVE TO MAKE AN UPDATE TO THEIR PERVIOUS SURFACES, UM, SO THAT OUR MANUAL DID NOT CONFLICT IN ANY WAY WITH HOW WE, WE TREAT THINGS.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONTRADICTORY IN OUR MANUAL, UM, THAT WE NEED TO, TO UPDATE THE REASON THOSE ITEMS ARE BLUE IS BECAUSE BOTH JULIANA AND I WERE EDITING THE DOCUMENT JUST AS A FYI, SHE HAD BLUE, YOU HAD RED FOR CHECK CHANGES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S BEEN AN ESTATE WRECK FOR A LONG TIME THAT, UH, UH, COMPACTED DIRT WAS CONSIDERED A HARD SURFACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MANAGED TO STAY LIKE THAT FOR THIS LONG A TIME.

BUT YEAH, SO WE'VE, WE'VE UPDATED THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT OUR PERMITTING PROCESS AND OTHER ITEMS WE MADE JUST SIMPLE FORMATTING ERRORS.

UM, THE NUMBER SEQUENCING AND CHAPTER FOUR WAS A LITTLE WONKY.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO FIX THAT.

AND THEN, UM, HAVING IN THE PROPOSED CON PROPOSED CONTOURS AT CONCEPTUAL REVIEW AND APPENDIX D AS WELL.

SO SHE, YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE A MOTION JUST REAL QUICK, WHERE ALL THESE, UM, CHANGES DECIDED INTERNALLY DID Y'ALL CONSULT WITH ANY DEVELOPERS OR CONSULTANTS ON THE CHANGES, CHANGES WE DEVELOPED INTERNALLY.

UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE MAJOR CHANGE THAT WAS GOING TO DRASTICALLY AFFECT MELBOURNE.

I WOULD ASK ON THE CONVERSE OF THAT, THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE'RE GETTING, OR WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL SIGN ON TO THIS.

SO LOCO DO HAVE THEY AGREED WITH, HAVE YOU SENT THIS OUT TO THEM AND THEY GOT THEIR AGREEMENT, LIKE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THAT I THINK I READ, THEY FINALLY AGREED TO THE SOLO CODE OR DID I MISREAD THAT THEY DID AGREE FOR ADOPTION? UM, I, I CAN'T RECALL IF THEY WERE GOING LIVE IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 1ST.

UM,

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I KNOW THAT WAS IN THE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SIMILAR EXERCISE THAT WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH.

IF WE ADOPT THIS, DO WE SEND THIS? I MEAN, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A POINT OF ORDER HERE, HOW, HOW IT, HOW IT WORKS TO GET EVERYBODY'S, UH, APPROVAL IN THIS.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING ARE REALLY AFFECT THE OVERALL GOAL OF THE SOLE LOCAL MANUAL.

THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON JUST VOTED ON THEIR MANUAL AND THEY CERTAINLY WON'T BE MAKING ANY AMENDMENTS, AT LEAST THAT'S THEIR HOPE.

UM, BUT YES, THIS INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE, THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE USING AND PLANNING ON USING THIS.

BUT AGAIN, AS THE FIRST PERSON TO REALLY IMPLEMENT, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, IF THERE'S ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES GOING FORWARD, THAT WE, AS YOU MENTIONED, INSTEAD OF LEGAL HAVING, UH, THE MUNICIPALITIES WEIGH IN BEFORE WE GET IT.

YEAH, WE, WE DO KEEP IN COORDINATION WITH, AGAIN, MOSTLY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST PROACTIVE ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THESE STANDARDS, UM, STAYING IN COORDINATION WITH THEM ON UPDATES.

I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW? SURE, SURE.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

UM, I DON'T PREFER WHAT THEY ADOPTED.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR MANUAL CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE.

SO AGAIN, THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME NUANCES OF DIFFERENCE, BUT OVERALL, THE INTENTION OF THE MANUAL AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE MANUAL IS THE SAME.

THANK YOU.

ARE YOU READY FOR US TO VOTE? YEAH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD A VOTING, UM, I, TO GET IT INTO MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT THE CONCESSIONAL PLAN VERSUS A PRELIMINARY PLAN.

UH, AND THOSE ARE FOR GIVING THEM AUTHORITY TO DO, TO DO A PROJECT BEFORE THE HYDRAULIC ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO IDENTIFYING WHAT THE OVERALL RUNOFFS COULD BE, REIKI PALLETIZATION OR ANY OF THAT.

SO I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF THAT WHERE DEVELOPMENT AFTER DEVELOPMENT IS ALL PUTTING INTO THE SAME AREA, CONNIE TRAIN, EACH THAT GOES INTO THE RIVER SYSTEM.

AND IT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEING LOOKED AT FOR INCREMENTAL STATION AS FAR AS, UH, UH, COMPOUNDING THE RUNOFF.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ISSUES ON WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN THE, UH, SHELL POINT ARENA AREA.

CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THAT HAPPENING? OKAY.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

IT'S GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION OF ALICE OR ANYBODY, UH, AFTER WE'VE HAD THESE, UH, FAIRLY HEAVY RAIN SERTA LAST MONTH, I'VE BEEN RIGHT THROUGH THE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THIS, UH, FLOODING ISSUES? AND THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS RIDING TO THE SHELL POINT PARK AREA, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CLEARING GOING ON TO THE LATERAL SIDES OF THE COUNTY STORMWATER DITCH THAT DRAINS FROM THE PONDS.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW OF ANY PROJECTS THAT WERE ONGOING IN THAT AREA AT THAT TIME.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY INCREMENTALIZATION, THESE THINGS SLIDE IN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE CAUSE ALL THAT FEEDS THE SAME AREA THAT HAS THE DISCHARGE PROBLEM.

RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS BEING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ON A PRELIMINARY BASIS SO THAT IT COULD BE STOPPED IF IT'S GOING TO BE, HAVE ADVOCATE AND FIRST CONDITIONS, BUT ONCE EVERYTHING'S BEEN AGREED TO IT, IT GOES TO THE PLANNING STAGE WHERE, UH, FOR THE FINAL YOU HAVE YOUR HYDRAULIC ANALYSIS AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING INTO IT, IT'S ALREADY BEEN AUTHORIZED AT THAT POINT.

AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE KIND OF AN INTERRUPT IN THERE, OR IT BEING, UH, THE SEQUENCE HAD CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING INTO A PROJECT SEQUENCE HAS CHANGED.

SO A LOT MORE OF THAT UPFRONT ANALYSIS AS PART OF BETTER SITE DESIGN DOES HAVE TO HAPPEN.

UM, PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE FINAL STAGE, WE REALLY WANT TO SEE A MORE HOLISTIC PICTURE AND YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE BASED ON THE LOCATION OF YOUR PROJECT, UM, WHAT YOUR IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND IF IT'S FEASIBLE TO EVEN DO THE WORK BASED ON A LOT OF THAT PRELIMINARY, UM, EVALUATIONS OF YOUR SITE, CERTAINLY ON THAT SAME NOTE, WE CAN'T

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EXPECT A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND SPEND $50,000 ON A PROJECT JUST TO, FOR THEM TO FIGURE OUT IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

AND THEN THEY'VE EXPENDED ALL THAT MONEY.

UM, AND SO IT'S, IT IS FINDING A BALANCE ABOUT THAT.

UNDERSTANDABLY, MY CONCERN IS NOT THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOP DEVELOPERS COST, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WE CONSIDER, UM, IN THE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR STANDARDS, WHAT THE BETTER SITE DESIGN PRINCIPLES WILL DO NOW THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED IS A LOT MORE OF THAT UPFRONT ANALYSIS DOES HAVE TO BE DONE PRIOR.

UM, I WILL SAY AS FAR AS COMPOUNDING ISSUES WITH DEVELOPMENT, I, WITHIN THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION, I'M NOT AWARE OF PROPERTIES IN SERIES WHERE WE'RE JUST CONTINUOUSLY DEVELOPING.

UM, THE SITE YOU MENTIONED, I BELIEVE IS IN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL IS JURISDICTION.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO IS CAUSE THEY PERMIT AND THINGS THAT, UH, ARE COMPOUNDING PROBLEMS FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE, SURE, I WILL SAY FOR THAT PROPERTY, YOU, THE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE ENGINEER ON THAT SITE REACHED OUT FAIRLY EARLY ON TO TRY AND GET SOME OF THE EARLY INFORMATION ABOUT THE DRAINAGE STUDY FROM CRANSTON SO THAT THEY COULD BE SENSITIVE TO THE RESULTS OF THAT VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO ON SITE.

UM, ULTIMATELY IT IS UP TO THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL TO REVIEW AND APPROVE.

UM, BUT BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH VAN BY REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ADOPTED THESE PRINCIPLES AS WELL BECAUSE THEY REFERENCE THE COUNTY'S MANUAL.

I THINK HENCE OUR CONCERN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.

IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A BIT CONFUSED ON WHAT THE CONCEPT PRELIMINARY FINAL PLANS ARE BECAUSE THOSE ARE STAGES OF A PERMIT APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS.

AND TO PEEL OUT THAT ONE PRELIMINARY PHASE, WHICH IS A KIND OF A, JUST HOW YOU WANT TO BREAK DOWN THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S A CONTINUOUS PROCESS FROM A CONCEPT TO A FINAL PRIMARY SET OF PLANS AND TAKING OUT THE PERMIT, THE PRELIMINARY, JUST YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE AND THE CONCEPT, RIGHT? SO, UH, UH, ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO ALL THAT EFFORT, DO A DETAILED PLANS WHERE THEY MAY HAVE MISSED SOME FUNDAMENTALS, BUT NOTHING WE WOULD BE TURNING AROUND ON THE GROUND BASED ON WHETHER THERE WAS A CONTENT FOR A PRELIMINARY PHASE TWO, THE APPLICATION PROCESS ALL HAS TO BE PERMITTED BEFORE THE DIRT CAN GET TURNED ANYWAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S, AND IN BETTER SITE DESIGN, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THERE ARE MORE REQUIREMENTS UP FRONT.

THERE IS A SITE ASSESSMENT AND A SITE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT NOW HAS TO HAPPEN PRIOR.

WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, REALISTICALLY, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS COME IN WITH A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

NOW THEY HAVE TO DO A SITE ASSESSMENT, A FEASIBILITY STUDY, AS WELL AS A PRE-APPLICATION.

AND WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW DEVELOPERS COME IN AND HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING SO THAT THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF THEM AGAIN AT THIS PHASE WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, THAT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO IT IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE PERMIT PROCESS.

IF THAT HELPS HELPS YOU.

UM, IT MAKES THE BLOODY WATERS A BIT MORE OPAQUE.

CERTAINLY.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, I'VE SEEN, UH, ONE PROJECT WHERE THE, ON THE CONCEPT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN ALL THESE BMPS, BUT THE BMPS WOULDN'T WORK FOR THAT AREA BECAUSE HE WAS TALKING THIS, FIND THE SKY TYPE OF STUFF, OH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER THING, BUT THERE'S AND THE CONCEPT IS, IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IT WON'T WORK.

AND THAT TYPE OF THING REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT BEFORE THEY COMPOUND THE PROBLEMS LATER ON BY IN THE PERMIT.

WELL, AND IF THE BMP'S ONSITE AS OUR PROCESSES, NOW DON'T WORK THE PROJECT, EVEN AT THE FINAL STAGE CANNOT GO THROUGH.

AND IF THE APPLICANT HAS TO AMEND THEIR BMP PLAN, THEY ALSO HAVE TO RESUBMIT TO THE STATE WITH THOSE CHANGES IN MIND.

UM, WE DO HAVE A PROJECT NOW WHERE THEY HAVE JUST MADE A SMALL AMENDMENT, BUT IT KICKS BACK THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO D HECK BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE RE-EVALUATED FULLY BEFORE COMING BACK TO FINAL WITH THEIR HYDROLOGY CALCULATIONS.

AND FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, THEY DID PROVIDE THE HYDROLOGY CALCULATIONS PRIOR AND IT DIDN'T WORK FOR WHAT THEY PROPOSED

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AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY WANTING TO INCREASE CAPACITY OF STORAGE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, ANY, ANY CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS TO THE BMPS HAVE TO BE, REAPPROVED NOT ONLY WITH THE STAFF, BUT THE STATE STAFF BEING THE SRT GROUP, NOT JUST STORM WATER.

I KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE OUT OF ROBERT'S RULES OF SEQUENCE HERE FOR COMMENTS ON A MOTION THAT HASN'T BEEN MADE YET EMOTION TO.

UM, I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING READY TO VOTE ON SOMETHING.

WE DO.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FORWARD.

WELL, FIRST I WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THEM BACK UP FOR COME MORE COMMON.

RIGHT.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MANUAL? YEAH.

SO LOCO MANUAL UPDATES IN MINOR CHANGES, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, I'M GOING TO LET IT RIDE? I HOPE THAT IT WILL WORK OUT IN THE FUTURE FOR PROJECTS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE SMALL AND B UH, AVOID THE HYDROLOGY, UH, REQUIREMENT THAT KEEP ADDING INCREMENTALLY INTO THE OVERALL DRAINAGE PROBLEM.

TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICABLE THIS MANUAL DOES THAT.

AND OUR PREVIOUS MANUALS HAVE DONE THAT AS WELL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXCITING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION PASSES.

SO THIS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT MEETING DATE OF THAT MEETING WAS THAT THE DATE FOR THAT MEETING NOVEMBER 4TH, PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING NOVEMBER 4TH, WHICHEVER ONE COMES FIRST PUBLIC FACILITIES OR NATURAL RESOURCES, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN LINE WITH ALL OF OUR SUBSEQUENT NUMBER EIGHT, BUT NATURAL RESOURCES, TECHNICALLY WE'RE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

SO WE'LL NOVEMBER 8TH, THE MONDAY BEFORE OUR POTENTIAL NEXT MEETING, AFTER THE NEXT THREE ITEMS, WE'LL GET TO THAT.

MOVING

[Additional Item 1]

ALONG TO THE ACADEMY PARK, THE ACCEPTANCE.

UM, PERFECT.

SO BACK IN 2017, THIS IS THE POND THAT HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR SOME TIME, THE ACADEMY PARK EASEMENT TO UPDATES THAT WE PROVIDE, UM, AT THIS TIME WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER PHOTOS, CLOSE THAT OUT.

OKAY.

WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY, UM, COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY FOR $1 IN ORDER TO GET COUNCIL'S FINAL APPROVAL.

WE DO HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND THE INTENTION.

THIS IS THE REGIONAL BNP POND THAT WAS BUILT IN COORDINATION WITH THE ACADEMY OF STATES, UM, OFF OF FACULTY DRIVE AND ALUMNI AND LADIES ISLAND.

UM, WE HAVE WHAT THIS POND DID.

IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE KIND OF REFERENCED THE WHAT'S INCLUDED HERE IS THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, THE EXTENSION OF AGREEMENT, AND THEN THE PLANS FOR WHAT THAT POND WAS TO LOOK LIKE.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT SIGNED BY JOSH GRUBER.

KEEP GOING DOWN TWO MORE PAGES.

THERE'S THE EXTENSION REQUEST FROM MS. JACOBS AND WITH THE EXTENSION REQUESTS, THE, ALL THE PARAMETERS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, DID FALL IN LINE.

THIS IS THE DESIGN WHERE YOU HAVE A DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT ENTERS INTO THIS REGIONAL BMP HAS PRE-TREATMENT AND THEN EVENTUALLY CONNECTS BACK INTO THAT SAME DITCH WHERE IT OUTFALLS.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S IN JENKINS CREEK.

SO ROCK SPRINGS, ROCK SPRINGS.

NO, THIS ONE ISN'T ROCK SPRINGS.

SORRY.

THIS IS ONE THAT'S BEEN FURTHER UP.

IT'S FURTHER DOWN THIS DISCHARGES BETWEEN UH, YEAH, FURTHER DOWN.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, YOU HAVE TO, THE SIDES UPPER CREEK IS UP AND THIS IS FURTHER DOWN.

IT'S GOING THIS WAY.

THE WATER THAT'S BETWEEN LADY'S ISLAND AND KIND OF THE WALMART AIRPORTS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS .

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YEAH.

THAT'S WHERE IT EVENTUALLY OUTFALLS.

SO THIS POND GIVES SOME PRE-TREATMENT BEFORE THAT DISCHARGES OUT INTO THAT CREEK.

UM, I THINK IT'S LESS THAN 500 FEET.

UM, AT THIS POINT TO ENTER INTO THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD TO CONTINUE WITH WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO BE A REGIONAL BNP, UM, FOR ACCEPTANCE INTO THE COUNTY'S SYSTEM.

AND IT'S LABELED AS ACADEMY PARK.

YES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, IS THERE ANY ISSUES THAT THE COUNTY HAS WITH THE WAY THE POND HAS DUG OR IS IT'S GOING TO CAUSE ANY MAJOR, ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WAS NOT, IT WAS OUT OF THEIR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

NO, NO, NO.

SEE A PROBLEM.

YOU DON'T SEE ONE, YOU'RE PROBABLY MOST FAMILIAR WITH IT.

YOU'RE AT A FEW MEETINGS ABOUT IT.

YOU'VE GOT NO OBJECTION.

NOW, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR, UH, ACADEMY PARK BMP MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR APPROVED.

[6B. Battery Creek 319 Pond]

OKAY.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO THE BATTERY CREEK THREE 19 POND.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY MR. ANDREWS COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE DID REQUEST THAT I BRING THIS LOCATION TO THE BOARD'S INTENTION.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OR WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THIS DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT IS, UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRASH, A LOT OF WATER, A LOT OF DEBRIS COMING TO THIS LOCATION AND BASED ON HOW IT'S THE POND HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, UM, IT APPEARS AFTER OUR FIELD VISIT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WATER BYPASSING THE FOREBAY AND ALLOWING, UM, THE OVERTOPPING OF THE EMERGENCY SPILLWAY VERSUS OUT FALLING TO THAT BATTERY CREEK THREE 19 POND.

UM, SO ONE MORE SLIDE.

PERFECT.

SO THAT'S THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO LEAD TO THE POND AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR EMERGENCY STILL WAY THERE.

UM, AND SO A LOT OF WATER IN WHICH CARRIES ALL THE DEBRIS AND TRASH IS BYPASSING THE POND SYSTEM AND STILL MAKING ITS WAY OUT INTO BATTERY CREEK.

SO ONE OF THE, WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON WITH GILBERT IS TO GET A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO RETROFIT THIS SYSTEM SO THAT IT'S FUNCTIONING AS DESIGNED.

UM, I HAVE, UM, UH, MR. ANDREWS SENT ME SOME COMMENTS TO, TO READ INTO THE RECORD AND HE WANTED TO, UH, KNOW WHETHER THE, THE STORM WATER, UH, COULD, UH, FIND A WAY TO, TO CAPTURE AND COLLECT LITTER AND TRASH WASHINGTON OR REGIONAL BMPS ALTOGETHER, NOT JUST FOR THIS, I THINK ONE, ONE UP, BUT HOW DO WE LOOK, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, UH, UNIVERSALLY THROUGHOUT ALL THE OUTFALLS TO PREVENT OR FIND OUT WHERE THIS TRASH IS COMING FROM, UH, SOMEHOW TRACK AND TRACE IF YOU WOULD.

OKAY.

I WAS ABLE TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION WITH OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING PROGRAM, UM, AS WELL AS THE DOD TO FIND OUT WHAT SORT OF EFFORTS ARE MADE IN FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, BUT FOR THE OTHER PARTS OF THE AREA.

YES.

AND THIS POND IN PARTICULAR HA IN THIS, THE VICINITY, THERE ARE, UM, ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAMS. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT COME IN JUST TO THIS SPECIFIC AREA AND DO CLEANUPS.

AND A LOT OF WHERE THIS TRASH AND EFFLUENT IS COMING FROM IS THE DEVELOPED LOCATION FOR THE WALMART AREA, WALMART PLANET, FITNESS, TJ MAXX, ALL OF THAT STUFF COMES STRAIGHT THROUGH.

UM, CERTAINLY IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PROBLEM, NOT ONLY FOR THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION.

UM, SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING IS ONE OF THEM DOING EDUCATION EFFORTS IN THESE AREAS TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THIS DEBRIS ULTIMATELY ENDS UP.

I THINK THAT THE POND IS WELL, IF IT WERE DESIGNED PROPERLY, THE POND IS FUNCTIONING IN THAT ALL OF THIS DEBRIS, YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCUMULATE IN THE FOUR BAY FOR CLEAN-OUT SO THAT, UM, NONE OF THAT MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE NATURAL SYSTEM.

THIS AREA DOES EXPERIENCE HIGH VOLUMES OF DEBRIS AND LITTER.

AND

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THE COUNTY IS ON A ROUTINE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, KNOWING THAT INFORMATION FOR CLEAN-OUTS.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS, NOT ONLY OF THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR, WHICH HAS BEEN DONATED TO, UM, THE CITY AND COUNTY TO HAVE ONSITE.

AND, UM, EVEN OUR EFFORTS QUARTERLY AREN'T ENOUGH TO REALLY KEEP UP.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO REEVALUATE WHAT THAT CYCLE NEEDS TO BE.

UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS, THIS, UM, RECOMMENDATION WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM WOOLFORD ON IS HOW DO WE KEEP THAT DEBRIS WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? UM, THERE WILL BE AN INTERESTING REPORT TO SEE WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY I MIGHT'VE MISSED THE BEGINNING.

WHAT DID YOU SAY? THE REASON IT'S NOT WORKING CORRECTLY? IS IT JUST TOO MUCH? WELL, IT IS A LOT OF DEBRIS.

IT'S ALSO A LOT OF WATER, BUT IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOW FLOW ORIFICE FOR THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE, BUT THEN THE EMERGENCIES IS LOWER THAN THE TRASH RACK FOR THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE.

SO A LOT OF THAT VOLUME IS JUST GOING RIGHT OVER THE SPILLWAY, WHICH IS JUST A NATURAL SYSTEM THAT GOES OUT TO BATTERY CREEK.

SO IT'S BYPASSING ENTIRELY THE STORM WATER POND THAT WAS BUILT TO INTERCEPT ALL OF THIS EMERGENCY SPILLWAY SET LOWER THAN YOUR PRIMARY SPILLWAY, BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT THE PRIMARY SOURCE.

SO WE INVESTIGATED ALONG THE SIDE OF WHERE THE SPILLWAY DISCHARGES, BUT AGAIN, INTO THE STORM WATER POND.

AND THERE'S VERY MINIMAL DEBRIS IN THE POND, BUT THERE IS ACCUMULATION OF DEBRIS AND DITCH LINE GOING OUT TO THE BATTERY CREEK.

THERE ARE FIVE INLETS TO THIS FORM FROM THE ROADWAY, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF INPUTS INTO THIS VERY SMALL FOUR BAY.

AND THAT'S RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE.

YOU CAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING HARD ENOUGH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE AND THE AND THEN THE POND IS IT'S PIPED, PROBABLY ANOTHER HUNDRED YARDS IN THE POND IS BEYOND.

I GOTTEN A BERM AT MARCH BURN ALONG THE REAL BLAZER.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE POND SLIGHTLY WHEEL.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE POND FROM OLD JERICHO ROAD.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THEM IS, WAS THIS TRULY BUILT AS DESIGNED, AND IF NOT, WHAT UPGRADES CAN WE MAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FUNCTIONING IN THAT MANNER? ANDREW'S, DIDN'T DO THE MEASUREMENT SIGN IT TO SEE IF IT'S STILL FITTING INTO THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE OVERALL DRAINAGE AREA.

ANDREW'S SUGGESTED IT'D BE DONE, BUT THEY DID NOT VOLUNTEER TO DO IT.

SO THEY WERE NOT, NO.

SO JUST TO, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY ACTION FROM US.

IT'S JUST AN FYI, JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR BMPS IS IMPORTANT.

UM, AND SO WE'RE SEEING SORT OF A DEFICIENCY WITH THIS ONE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT DEFICIENCY.

WELL, I THINK THIS ALSO DOVETAILS WITH ELLEN'S EDUCATIONAL, UH, ENDEAVORS, UH, BEING A COORDINATOR, THE DOP, THE HIGHWAY GROUP, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S A NEVER ENDING BATTLE.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT I SEE US EVER IN THE LOW COUNTRY, UH, TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S VARIOUS PARTIES THAT BELIEVE A ROADSIDE PICKUP FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COUNTY WILL ELIMINATE THIS.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK IT'S EDUCATION.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU SEE GOING ON IN AMERICA AS WE HAVE TO GET TAR OUR BOARDS OF EDUCATION AND THEIR SCHOOLS TO ALLOW RIGHT, THESE ELLEN KONOS AND THE STATE ADOPT A HIGHWAY COORDINATORS TO GO INTO THE SCHOOLS AND MAKE FREE PRESENTATIONS TO STUDENTS, IF WE DON'T GET IT TO THE STUDENTS, THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF ANTI-LITTER, IT'S NEVER GOING TO STOP.

THAT'S JUST MY SOAPBOX.

WE, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BRINGS TO KIDS' ATTENTION WHEN SHE HAS A, WHAT WE CALL AN ENVIROSCAPES, WHICH IS A MODEL OF A COASTAL WATERSHED.

AND ONE OF THE

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POLLUTANTS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS BOARD BEFORE A RAINSTORM IS LITTER.

AND SO, UM, THE KIDS REALLY ENJOYED, I KNOW THIS WEEKEND WATCHING HOW ALL OF THE POLLUTANTS ON LAND DURING THEIR SIMULATED RAIN STORM MADE THEIR WAY OUT INTO THE CREEKS.

UM, AND SO WE HAD, UH, A LOT, WE HAD A VERY ENGAGED GROUP OF CHILDREN THAT WERE KEENLY AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT ISSUES WE HAVE EVEN JUST AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

SO I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED BY THIS MORNING THAT WE HAD WITH US.

SO JUST TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

CAN THEN, UM, THE OTHER ITEM, JUST TO MAKE AN UPDATE FOR YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER OR SEEN IT POSTED ELSEWHERE IS THAT THERE WAS AN ALYSSA DISCHARGE OF THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM, UM, OFF OF HIGHWAY 2 78.

YES.

THE CONTRACTOR ON THE RIGHT OF WAY PORTION OF THE PROJECT HIT A SEWER FORCE MAIN, THAT'D BE FOR JASPER SEWER AND WATER ANTICIPATED BEING APPROXIMATELY 250,000 GALLONS, UM, COMING OUT OF THAT SYSTEM, FORTUNATELY, UM, THAT NONE OF THE EFFLUENT MADE ITS WAY INTO THE OTU RIVER.

UM, THEY BURNED EVERYTHING UP AND WORKED THROUGH THE NIGHT TO GET THAT SYSTEM CONTAINED, LINED, UM, READY TO GO.

I DID SPEAK WITH MY D HECK, UM, CONTACT HERE AND HE WAS ONSITE ALL MORNING.

CERTAINLY THESE THINGS DON'T COME TO MY ATTENTION UNTIL AFTER FOUR O'CLOCK ON A FRIDAY, WHICH IS A REALLY GREAT WAY TO BE OF HELP.

UM, BUT WE DID HAVE INSPECTORS ON SITE MONDAY MORNING, AND, UM, THE SYSTEM WAS CLEAR OF DEBRIS AND EVERYTHING HAD BEEN REMOVED AND TAKEN OFF SITE.

SO THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SHOULD YOU HAVE HAD QUESTIONS ON WHAT OCCURRED AND HOW IT WAS HANDLED? I DROVE BY AT MANY TIMES AND SAW ALL THE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS PRECEDENT.

YES.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THEY WORK TILL CLOSE TO FIVE IN THE MORNING, SATURDAY CONTAINING THAT SITE.

BUT ONE OF THE POSITIVES OF THAT IS IF THERE IS POSITIVE, IS THAT OUR COMMUNICATION NETWORK BETWEEN THE SEWERS COMPANY, AS WELL AS THE JURISDICTIONS, UM, IS EFFECTIVE IN GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO RELATE TO US.

YEAH.

PURE FOR JESPER WATER, HAD MANY, MANY INDIVIDUALS THEY'RE WORKING.

WAS IT MISS MARK, OR ARE YOU ON A, UM, HOW ARE WE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON A FRIDAY SO THEY CAN ENJOY THE WEEKEND AND HIT OUR SEWER FORCE NAME? SO THAT IS THE UPDATE FOR THE BOARD ON THAT.

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WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS UNDER NEW BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO, UH, DISCUSS BEFORE WE LEAVE NEW BUSINESS.

AND ONE IS, UH, OUR CALENDAR FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, UH, SEVERAL MEMBERS AREN'T HERE, UH, BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LOVE THEIR INPUT.

UM, ORIGINALLY, UH, OUR EVERY MONTH SCHEDULE, UH, UH, HAS THIS MEETING WOULD HAVE US MEETING IN DECEMBER, UH, UH, PAST PRACTICES HAVE MET IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE USED TO MEET EVERY MONTH.

SO IT WASN'T AN ISSUE.

AND WE CREATED THE CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A CAST IN STONE THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER FOR 2022, UH, THAT WE COULD DO IT IN DECEMBER.

UH, IF WE MET IN NOVEMBER, MEANING ONE MONTH FROM NOW, UH, I'M NOT SURE WE'D HAVE THAT MUCH INFORMATION, UH, TO DISSEMINATE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT OFF TIL DECEMBER, UH, EARLY DECEMBER AS A MATTER OF FACT.

SO WE CAN THEN CREATE THE CALENDAR, UH, FOR 20, 20, 22 AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN DECEMBER, UH, FOR KATIE'S GROUP TO DISSEMINATE TO US RATHER THAN HAVE JUST THE NEXT 30 DAYS WORTH OF INFORMATION.

UH, AGAIN, UH, IT GIVES A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM FOR, UH, KATIE'S GROUP AND KATIE, UH, TO GET IT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORTS TO US BY MEETING IN DECEMBER.

UH,

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I'D LIKE EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD'S INPUT ON THIS, THERE'S A COUPLE ISSUES.

I'VE HAD A DECEMBER MEETING.

I THINK THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE OF HOLIDAY SCHEDULES AND ALL LIKE THAT, UM, IN THE PAST.

BUT, UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK WAS WHAT IS THE CRITICAL MONTH FOR BEADING? IS THAT THE BUDGET, UH, PASSING TIME, CRUISE THAT FEBRUARY, WHICH CASE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO, UH, BY MONTHLY, THEN WE COULD BACK UP THERE.

THAT WOULD BE A DECEMBER TIMEFRAME.

IF IT'S JANUARY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER.

TYPICALLY WE DON'T MEET IN JANUARY BECAUSE THE MONTH OF DECEMBER IS FAIRLY LIGHT.

UM, WE HA WE ALWAYS HAVE IT ON THE CALENDAR PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE JUST MET ONCE A MONTH, BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE, BECAUSE THERE JUST REALLY WASN'T MUCH TO GET ON.

WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH WITH, WITH MEETING FEBRUARY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET.

UM, I DO KNOW THAT BUDGET SEASON STARTED LAST WEEK.

AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO GET STARTED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, AS FAR AS THE DEADLINES.

SO I WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON WHEN THEY'RE WANTING TO VOTE ON OUR BUDGET SO THAT I COULD RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE THE FIRST LAYER OF APPROVAL FOR US, WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN DONE IN FEBRUARY AND, UM, IN MARCH.

AND THAT CASE THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE DECEMBER SCHEDULE INSTEAD OF NOVEMBER BE BENEFICIAL.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.

THAT'S THE CRUCIAL TIME PERIOD WE NEED TO WORK WITH IN THAT FRAMEWORK.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE DECEMBER, FEBRUARY IS WHAT MAKES SENSE, GREG.

OKAY.

THERE'S TO ME, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.

THAT THOSE THAT AREN'T HERE, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH OUR DECISION.

BUT YEAH, YOU REMEMBER IF THE NOVEMBER MEETING WAS A HARD AND FAST DEADLINE FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, LIKE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON OUR MEETING SCHEDULE.

YEAH.

UH, BECAUSE IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE, IF IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED, RIGHT.

AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW IN DISCUSSION.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IN 20, 22 WITH EVERY OTHER MONTH, RIGHT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HARD TO COME UP WITH THE WEDNESDAYS EVERY OTHER WEEK OR TWICE A MONTH ON WEDNESDAYS INTO 2022.

AND IT, ISN'T HARD TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND FIGURE OUT THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE AND EFFECT.

IF I SAY YES OR NO RIGHT NOW, ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO IF IN FACT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING TO DECEMBER AND STAY IN 2022 AS AN, EVERY OTHER MONTH, STARTING IN FEBRUARY, ACTUAL, STARTING IN FEBRUARY, STARTING IN FEBRUARY THAT SECOND ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

YEP.

ALL THOSE IN FAVORITES.

AND I DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS ANYMORE.

WHAT I WOULD SAY NOW.

YES, WE HAVE.

WELL, I GUESS WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU INPUT.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT IF, IF IN FACT YOU FIND OUT THROUGH YOUR SUPERIORS, THAT IT MUST BE DONE IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE OF SOME FEWER REQUIREMENT, THEN WE WILL DO IT ADMINISTRATIVELY AND YOU CAN SEE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO SEND IT OUT AND WE WILL VOTE ELECTRONICALLY BACK TO YOU.

WHETHER THAT MEETING SCHEDULE, THE TRUE COME UP WITH IS ACCEPTABLE.

OKAY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES NOT LIKE TO MAKE SENSE.

OKAY.

WORST CASE.

IT COULD ALWAYS JUST BE A QUICK ZOOM MEETING.

WE CALL A SPECIAL MEETING JUST TO, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN'T DO IT ELECTRONICALLY, THEN THE ZOOM, IF YOU HAVE TO.

YEAH.

SO LET'S FIND OUT WHAT LOGISTICS IT'S.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PHONE CALLS IF THAT'S ADVISOR.

SO IT MIGHT BE, AS KATIE SAID YESTERDAY, A QUICK FIVE MINUTE ZOOM MEETING, AND WE BOTH HAVE TO FIND OUT THE RULES, REGULATIONS.

IT'S FINE.

I MEAN, IT'S TWOFOLD WHETHER WE HAVE TO DO IT NOVEMBER, NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO, THEN HOW WE GET IT DONE IS X.

WHY DON'T WE JUST DO A TENTATIVE MEETING VIA ZOOM FOR NOVEMBER ANTICIPATING THAT POSSIBLE ISSUE.

I MEAN, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS WALK DOWN THAT HALLWAY AND ASK, SO GIVE HER TWO MINUTES TO DO THAT.

CAN YOU DO THAT?

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OH, UM, WORK AND EVERYONE TO HANG OUT AFTERWARDS, LIKE AND RUN DOWN THERE.

CAUSE IT MAY BE TWO MINUTES, BUT THEN SHE, PEOPLE MAY BE BUSY AND I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE BOARD JUST SITTING HERE.

WE CAN WAIT TWO MINUTES.

WE'RE GONNA WAIT TWO MINUTES.

WE'LL WAIT TWO MINUTES.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT.

I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF LUDICROUS TO MAKE MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLEHILLS WHEN YOU MAKE THE CALENDAR.

I THINK THAT, UH, IN THE PAST COUPLE OF TWO, THREE YEARS AGO FROM HOWEVER, THERE WAS SOME CRITICAL ISSUES THAT HAD TO BE DONE AT THAT TIME FOR MS. FOR INFORMATION THAT HAD TO BE AT THAT TIME, THAT, THAT WASN'T.

AND IF THOSE SURE THOSE HAPPEN DURING THE YEAR, THEN YOU ADMINISTRATIVELY CHANGE THE SCHEDULE.

IF DURING THE YEAR WE KNOW IN MARCH THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN JUNE, PERSONALLY, I THINK THE BE BUSINESS, WE HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS IN BETWEEN EDUCATIONAL THINGS, RESEARCH PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FINALLY FINALIZED IN DECEMBER.

SHE CAN JUST PUT THAT ON THE BOOKS OR NOVEMBER.

IF IT GETS CANCELED, IT GETS CANCELED.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE HERE.

WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S ON THE BOOKS.

BUT I THINK THAT PART OF THAT PLANNING IS FOR THE TELEVISION.

IS THERE ALL HONESTLY, YOU HAVE TO PLAN WHERE ALL THE TV AT THE COUNTY CHANNEL.

SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLANNED OUT A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

THAT'S OUR PUBLIC NOTICES CHANNEL.

I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN WHAT THE SECOND OUR MEETING HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY.

AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE.

I THINK THAT'S IN SOME DOCUMENT THAT IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY IN THE ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE MEET ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.

SO THE DATES OF THE MONTHS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER ANY EXACTLY.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

WHETHER YOU JUST PICK A DIFFERENT MONTHS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO FEBRUARY, APRIL, JUNE, AUGUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BACK TO THE SCHEDULE.

YEAH.

WE'RE TWO MINUTES, TWO MINUTES, TWO MINUTE.

SO WE'VE GOT A BREAK BREAK.

OH YEAH.

WE'RE IN A TWO MINUTE BREAK FOR A SECOND.

OH, THE BOARD TO ME IN NOVEMBER TO VOTE ON THEIR SCHEDULE.

SO MOVING THE MEETING AS MOTION TO DECEMBER 14TH, WE JUST SAVED 15.

WE JUST SAVED YOU.

SOME I'LL WORK DECEMBER 15TH.

HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE AN ADMIN BY THEN.

THERE WE GO.

SORRY.

15 TOP OF THAT MYTH.

SO DECEMBER 15TH IS THE DATE, CORRECT? YES.

IT'S THE SECOND ONE SECOND.

WEDNESDAY.

THAT'S THE ACTUAL THIRD WINDOW.

THAT'S TWO THAT'S TWO WEEKS PLUS A DAY.

THIRD.

IT SHOULD BE THAT.

I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER THIS YEAR BY MOVING IT TO JUST EVERY OTHER MONTH, BUT ORIGINALLY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.

SO THE 15TH WOULD WORK.

I HAD HAD A POINT

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OF ORDER.

I'D ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR ORDINANCE? AND I DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE WITH ME THAT DICTATES EXACTLY WHICH WEDNESDAY IT COULD BE.

IT'S DICTATED IN THE ORDINANCE.

IT IS DICTATED FOR THE THIRD.

WELL THEN WE'VE BEEN DOING THE SECOND FOR AT LEAST THREE DAYS, I GUESS, BECAUSE I HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT BADGE OR OH, LOOK, WORKS ENFORCEMENT BADGE.

I'M FINDING MYSELF FOR BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH ORDINANCE.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CORRECT THIS ISSUE.

WELL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT WE CAN JUST FOR 20, FOR 2022, JUST MOVE IT TO THE THIRD, WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, WHICH I'LL PRESENT THAT PROPOSED DRAFT SCHEDULE AT THE DECEMBER 15TH.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

OUR ONE VISITOR HAS LEFT THE BUILDING, UH, ONE, UH, SEMI-PUBLIC PERSON.

UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FROM OUR OTHER TWO VISITORS DECIDE POWER? UH, ANY COMMENT? NOPE.

THERE BEING NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, UH,

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CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT AGENDA FOR THE THIRD WEEK IN DECEMBER? MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES MEETING ADJOURNED MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING ADJOURN.