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OH, THIS MEETING OF THE AD HOC BLUFFTON GROWTH COMMITTEE TO ORDER TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2021.
UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
I SECOND THAT WELL, COLONEL GUYER MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE AGENDA WITH ANGELA MIDDLETON AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA, SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, NO POPE COMMENTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 26TH, 2021 MINUTES.
CAN YOU PULL THAT UP FOR US, ROBIN AS WELL? HOLD ON A SECOND.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE MINUTES? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT.
WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 22ND, 26, 20 21.
MS. MIDDLETON MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 26, COLONEL BUYER'S SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE MINUTES OR AMENDMENTS SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THAT WAS UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 26 MINUTES.
AND WE ARE DOWN TO OUR MEAT AND POTATOES OF TODAY'S AGENDA, WHICH IS DISCUSSION WITH THE LAND CONSULTANTS.
UH, TODAY WE HAVE MR. AL BERRY AND MR. BAKER WILKINS.
UM, THESE ARE THE LAND CONSULTANTS, BUT I'M GOING TO ALLOW, UM, MS. CAROL CRUTCHFIELD AT THE OFFICE OR MR. ROBERT AUDITING TO KIND OF GIVE A SYNOPSIS OF THE LAND CONSULTANTS AND HOW WE GOT HERE AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
I DON'T THINK ROBERT'S MAKING THE CALL RIGHT NOW.
RODRIGUEZ MET WITH, UH, THE LAND CONSULTANTS, HE DECIDED TO GO WITH TWO PEOPLE, UM, WITH AL BERRY, WITH THE EDUCATIONAL GROUP INCORPORATED AND BAKER WITH WILKINS WITHIN A, A CHARTER CAROLINA, UM, BECAUSE HE SAW STRENGTHS IN BOTH OF WHAT THEY DO THAT COULD BENEFIT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, SO WE HAVE BOTH OF THEM WITH US HERE TODAY ON ZOOM, AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO EACH OF THEM, THEN ALLOW THEM TO TALK ABOUT IN GENERAL WHAT THEIR SCOPE OF WORKERS WITH US RIGHT NOW, AND THEN MAYBE ALLOW Y'ALL TO ASK THEM SOME QUESTIONS.
AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE BAKER FIRST.
SO, UM, DIDN'T HAVE A FULL THING, BUT HERE'S WHAT I'M A BAKER WILKINS IS THE PRINCIPAL COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER WITHIN A I CAROLINA CHARTER IN THE BLUFFTON HILTON HEAD AREA.
AND IF YOU RECOGNIZE ITS NAME, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN IT ON MANY SONS, UM, FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ACROSS THE COUNTY, UM, BAKER IS WORKING WITH US ON SEVERAL PROJECTS, UM, IN THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING EVALUATING OUR CURRENT LANDHOLDINGS FOR, UM, ANY POSSIBLE SALES AND IS ADVISING US WITH SOME EASEMENT ISSUES, UM, THAT WE MAY POTENTIALLY HAVE.
SO BAKER, I'M GONNA LET YOU, UM, TELL THE GROUP A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH US.
I'M WITH NAF CAROLINA CHARTER.
UM, I'VE BEEN WITH THE SAME COMPANY.
WE'VE CHANGED NAMES ONCE, BUT, UM, THEN HERE GREW UP HERE ON HILTON HEAD MOVED BACK AFTER COLLEGE.
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I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS, UM, IN THE BLUFFS OF HILTON HEAD AREA.UM, WE, OUR PRIMARY MARKETS ARE BUFORD COUNTY JASPER COUNTY.
AND, UM, ALL WE DO IS COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
UM, SO WE FOCUS JUST ON COMMERCIAL SALES AND LEASING, UM, OUR OFFICES DOWNTOWN BLUFFTON, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT AND HELPING ANY WAY WE CAN ON DISPOSING SOME OF THESE ASSETS IF NEED BE THANKS, BAKER.
AND NEXT I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE AL BAKER OUT, SORRY, AL BERRY WITH EDUCATIONAL GROUP INCORPORATED.
UM, AL PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BACK IN 2008 AND HELPED US SECURE THE LAND, UM, ON LADY'S ISLAND AND AT THE MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL SITE.
AND SO AL HAS WORKED WITH PROBABLY CLOSE TO 20 DIFFERENT DISTRICTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND I KNOW HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING WITH, UM, SPARTANBURG DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, HE HAS LOTS OF LICENSURES AND PROFESSIONAL TRAINING TO HELP US, UM, IN IDENTIFYING THE TYPES OF LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT MEETS SCHOOL'S SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AL I THINK YOU'RE MUTED NOW.
NOW HOW ABOUT THIS? FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK EACH OF YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND HAVE THIS TIME WITH YOU.
I KNOW YOUR TIME IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY PRECIOUS AND, UH, BUT, UH, WE DEALING WITH A PRECIOUS SIDE, UH, ITEM, AND THAT IS THE EDUCATION OF CHILDREN.
AND AS WE THINK ABOUT EDUCATING CHILDREN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE PUT THEM IN SO THAT, UH, EFFECTIVE TEACHING CAN OCCUR AND EFFECTIVE LEARNING CAN OCCUR.
AND THEN WE LOOK FOR THE OUTCOMES TO BE WHAT WE HAD HOPED THAT THEY WOULD BE.
LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF IDEA IN TERMS OF THE SEQUENCE OF THINGS THAT I ATTEMPT TO DO.
UH, AS CAROL MENTIONED, I HAVE BEEN IN SCHOOLWORK.
SCHOOLWORK IS OVER THE OPERATIONS SISTER, SUPERINTENDENT LUXTON ONE, FOUR, AND RETIRED AFTER ABOUT 32 YEARS IN THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT, UH, THE ALONG THE WAY, UH, BECAUSE I'M A GRADUATE OF CLEMSON IN THE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE.
SO I'VE HAD COURSES IN SOULS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I'M NOT SAYING I'M AN EXPERT IN THEM, BUT I'VE CERTAINLY HAD A LOT OF INTRODUCTION TO THEM.
AND, UH, ALONG THE WAY, UH, BECOME A LICENSED SURVEYOR, UH, I'VE BEEN A LICENSED CONTRACTOR AND, UH, UH, UH, BEEN A BROKER FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS.
THIS IS A GIFT, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, JUST SO INCREDIBLY, JUST A WATER FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO CREATE THINGS FOR THE LONGTERM.
SO AS WE, UH, AS I BEGIN THIS JOURNEY, THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH CAROL AND HER STAFF, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, UH, HORA DO SITE SELECTIONS TO GENERAL AREA, UH, HOW SCHOOLS ARE STRUCTURED ELEMENTARY.
DO WE HAVE ELEMEN, UH, IN IMMEDIATE, THEN WE GO TO MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL.
ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND AS WE LOOK AT RESEARCH TODAY, UH, AND HAVE BEEN FOR 20, 30 YEARS, THAT I'VE TRIED TO FOLLOW THIS, UH, WE LOOK AT WHAT CREATES EFFECTIVE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENTS FOR ALL KIDS.
AND CERTAINLY THE SIZE OF SCHOOLS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT.
UH, BUT WE ARE ALSO REALISTICALLY ARE WORKING AT A DAY IN TIME IN WHICH WE HAVE TO MAXIMIZE THINGS SO THAT FINANCIALLY WE COULD AFFORD.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SPEND TIME.
I'LL DO ALL OF THAT BEFORE I START WORKING ON LOOKING FOR PARTICULAR PIECES OF PROPERTY.
UH, I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO DO.
AND, UH, AND I MIGHT SAY ONE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS A PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS I'LL HAVE WITH THE DISTRICT STAFF AND, AND YOUR
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INPUT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.AS WE LOOK AT OUR DEEDS TODAY, HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THOSE NEEDS BASED ON WHAT WE NEED TODAY, OR HOW WE TRY TO SEE A BIG PICTURE, OR WHAT WILL OUR NEEDS, BECAUSE THIS GOO, WHEREVER YOU PUT IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO PROVIDE THE ENVIRONMENT FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING FOR 50 TO 75 YEARS.
SO IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT LEAVE ANYTHING LEFT UNDONE TO RESEARCH ALL POSSIBLE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WILL SATISFY NOT ONLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY, BUT HOW WILL THIS FIT INTO THE LONGTERM, UH, PATTERN OF STUDENT GROWTH, UH, IN, IN YOUR WONDERFUL COUNTY? I MEAN, YOU'RE IN, UH, CANADA HAS A LOT OF FOCUS THAT PEOPLE LOOK TO TO MOVE TO.
AND, UH, SO, UM, UH, I WOULD SEE THAT YOUR, UH, STUDENT ENROLLMENT WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THERE.
SO HAVING WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT, THE NEXT THING THAT I WILL DO IS TO SPEND TIME, YES, RIGHT HERE ON MY COMPUTER RESEARCH AND ALL THE PRACTICE.
AND I TIE THAT RESEARCH IN WITH VISIT IN THE COUNTY AND THE AREAS THAT THE STAFF IS, THEY ADVISE ME THAT THIS IS THE AREA OF THE CRITICAL AREA THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AGAIN.
SO I WILL BE DOING ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT AS I LOOK AT PROPERTIES IS AVAILABLE.
AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS PROBABLY OF THE HUNTER SCHOOL SITES THAT I PURCHASED OVER OUR STATE, AT LEAST PROBABLY 80% OF THEM HAVE BEEN PURCHASED FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT SELLING PRAKTIK BECAUSE THERE ARE CRITICAL, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MUST UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PROCESS OF MAKING A SELECTION AND EVEN GETTING INTO THE COMPENSATION.
I'LL SPEND TWO TO FOUR MONTHS RESEARCHING PRACTICE.
I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE SOUL TYPES.
I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE PROFILES.
I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TOPOGRAPHY.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT TO KNOW DOWN THERE ABOUT WETLANDS, UH, HIGH STORM DRAINAGE DISPOSED OF HOW DO WE GET RID OF THAT? WE HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT ROAD FRONTAGE, SIGHT LINES.
SO WE HAVE SAFE ENTRY INTO A SCHOOL SITE ONCE IS IN OPERATION AND SAFE EXIT OUT.
SO THESE ACCESS POINTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UH, SO ALL OF THESE THINGS, MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT YOU MIGHT RIDE DOWN THE ROAD AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S A PRETTY PIECE OF, UH, PROMPT.
IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, LAY OUT, BUT IT WON'T MEET THE CRITERIA.
SO I HAVE TO SAY, WHAT IF I WERE ABLE TO BRING IN ANOTHER PIECE OF SOD PROPERTY INTO THIS, HOW CAN I GROUP PROPERTIES TOGETHER? IT'S JUST LIKE THE RECENT ONE I'VE DONE IS SEVEN DIFFERENT PRACTICE.
YOU THINK YOUR EARS DON'T WANT GROWING, BUT IT'S NOT.
YOU'D GO UP TO SPARTANBURG, GO NINE TO FIVE, AND YOU'LL REALLY SEE, SEE US TREMENDOUS GROWTH, BUT THEY HAVE TO PUT THINGS TOGETHER AND PACKAGE, AND THAT MAKES IT PRETTY DIFFICULT A WAY IN WHICH TO DO THAT.
THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, HOW WE'LL KNOW WHAT KIND OF, UH, UH, RESOURCES ARE THERE IN TERMS OF LIKE WATER AND SEWER, UH, ELECTRICAL ELECTRICALLY.
UH, BUT ALSO AS YOU LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF THINGS, ARE ANY OF THEM, UH, HAVE A POTENTIAL HEALTH ISSUE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MAYBE NOT IN YOUR AREA, BUT I HAVE TO LOOK FOR BY THE TWO RAILROADS, HOW ABOUT TRANSMISSION LINES? HOW ABOUT GAS LINES? AND IF THE, THE, THE RESEARCH, IF WE FIND THAT, THEN OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO BE A SETBACK LINES IN REGARDS TO THAT.
SO AGAIN, IN THIS PROCESS, TWO TO FOUR MONTHS, I COULD BE VERY WELL TIED UP AND JUST GET READY TO START ENGAGING IN CONTACT IN PROPERTY OWNERS.
I DON'T LIKE TO JUST GO UP AND DOWN JUST SODAS TO CALL THE STREET, SAYING ANYBODY GOT ANY LAND FOR SALE SCHOOL DISTRICTS LOOK AT FARM BECAUSE THAT IS IT THAT REALLY JUST CREATES A LOT OF INTERESTS OUT THERE AND VERSA, YOU KNOW, PRICES GO EVEN HIGHER THAN THEY ARE TODAY.
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SO IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A DISCREET KIND OF WAY.UH, THE WAY I TEACH TO DO IT, UH, UH, LIKE I SAY, NOT MANY OF THE PIECES WILL COME WITH A LISTING AGREEMENT ON IT.
UH, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IF THEY ARE THERE, I'LL, I'LL CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THOSE.
I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THOSE, BUT A HIGH PERCENT WILL PROBABLY BE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME I WAS WITH YOUR, UH, DISTRICT, UH, THE BIG PIECE, UH, IT WAS NOT A BIG, UH, NOTICE THERE IN TERMS OF THEIR DESIRE TO SELL, UH, WHAT I DO AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
I GO, UH, HOW PREPARE A LETTER AND SEND TO THESE POTENTIAL OWNERS, MAYBE JUST ONE AT A TIME OR TWO AT THE TIME.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO GENERATE A LOT OF, LOT OF STIR ABOUT DISTRICTS OUT PRIOR TO BUY PROPERTY EVERYWHERE.
SO I'LL DO THAT JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
SO WHEN THEY GET A CALL, THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS NOT JUST A, SOME SOLICITATION IS BEING CALLED.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S SORT OF THE PROCESS WE GO INTO LONG-TERM YES, IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE FROM ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT TO 12 TO 14 MONTHS BEFORE WE GO TO A CLOSE AND TYPE, IT DOES TAKE TIME.
AND, UH, BUT WE ONLY HAVE ONE TIME TO EXERCISE OUR JUDGMENT, TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO SO THAT AFTER THE PROPERTY IS PURCHASED, IS THAT, WELL, WHAT ABOUT SO-AND-SO WE NEED TO DO TO CHECK OFF AND MAKE SURE, UH, THE PROPERTY, UH, WILL BE APPROVED AND IS APPROVED TO SATISFY THE NEED OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S SOLVED LIKE A BRIEF CAPSULE OF WHAT I WILL BE DOING AND HOW I WILL APPROACH THE SERVICE THAT I PROVIDE FOR YOU.
IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ADDING ON, UM, AL JUST SO YOU SORT OF KNOW, UH, PART OF WHAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE IS SORT OF LOOK AT THE APPROACH THAT YOU'RE DOING, LOOKING OUT WHERE, UM, OUR STUDENTS ARE, UH, WHERE THEY'VE BEEN, WHERE WE THINK THEY'RE GONNA GO AND, AND SORT OF LOOKING AT THE CONFIGURATIONS OF SCHOOLS, WHAT WE CAN ADD ON TO WHAT THEY CAN'T ADD ON TO.
SO A LOT OF THE WORK, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT WE'LL, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING GOING FORWARD.
UM, THEY'VE DONE THAT WORK AND, AND WE'LL HAVE IT READY FOR YOU.
SO THEY THEY'VE DONE SOME OF THE HEAVY LIFTING WITH US, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO ADD.
AND, UM, THANK YOU, MR. BARRY AND MR. WILKINS FOR AGREEING TO BE HERE TODAY AND SPEAKING WITH US AND GIVEN THAT OVERVIEW, UM, I WANTED TO ALLOW THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW I HAVE A COUPLE, BUT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE THE SAME ONE, SO Y'ALL GO FIRST.
HI, MR. WILKINS, I'M ANGELA MIDDLESEX.
UM, I KNOW YOUR JOB IS TO ASSIST US WITH, UM, OUR CURRENT LAND HOLDINGS.
UM, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PIECES.
UM, ARE WE CURRENTLY, DO WE HAVE ANY OF OUR HOLDINGS UP FOR SALE AT THIS POINT? I DO NOT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DISTRICT HAS GOT, UM, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES ON THE MARKET, UM, WITHOUT, UH, THAT ARE NOT LISTED WITH AN AGENT.
UM, AND I AM GOING TO BE, I GUESS, GOING TO BE GETTING WITH CAROL ON GETTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SURVEYS, ET CETERA, UM, IN ORDER TO DO SOME EVALUATIONS FOR YOU.
YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT WHERE WE ARE REALLY JUST GETTING STARTED WITH, WITH, UM, BOTH BAKER AND AL AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
SO THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS YET, BUT WE'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, BAKER.
NOW I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE.
ONE IS, UH, EVALUATE THE LONG-TERM NEED FOR PROPERTY THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN.
UM, SPECIFICALLY THE BIKO PROPERTY, UH, THE KING STREET PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE SOLAR ARRAY, UH, NEXT TO THE ISLANDS OF BUFORD, UM, AND THE LADY'S ISLAND, UH, PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE NOW, UM, UH,
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IF THAT PROPERTY IS MAYBE PERHAPS THAT LADY'S ISLAND WILL HAVE ENOUGH GROWTH THAT SOMEDAY WE MAY NEED TO USE THAT LADY'S ISLAND PROPERTY, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES I DON'T SEE ANY POTENTIAL USE FOR.AND WE CERTAINLY COULD USE THE CAPITAL THAT WE COULD GET FROM THE SALE OF SOME OF THESE, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, TO HELP FUND PURCHASE OF PROPERTY.
UH, SOUTH OF THE BROAD, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IS I THINK DEVELOPERS THAT ARE PUTTING IN SUBDIVISIONS REALLY LIKED TO MARKET NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, TO THEIR POTENTIAL BUYERS.
UH, THE PROBLEM IS THAT, UH, PEOPLE WANT NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, BUT NOT IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
SO FINDING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BOAST IS ACCESSIBLE AND, AND MR. BARRY, YOU, YOU LAID OUT EXACTLY.
THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE WANT DO NOT WANT TO BUY A PIG AND A POKE AND BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ONCE WE GET THE CIVIL ENGINEERS IN THERE, THEY SAY, OH MY GOD, WHY DID YOU BUY THAT? BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF FIELD IT WILL NEED, OR WHATEVER WILL DRIVE THE PRICE, WHICH HAPPENED WITH MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN.
I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD QUICKLY GIVEN THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE BLUFFTON AREA AND, AND THE, THE, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE MAYORS OF, OF BLUFFTON, THE COMMENTS FROM THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS IN THE BLUFFTON AREA.
AND THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPLIED TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TELLS ME THAT, AND THEY'RE THE TYPE OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BRING KIDS IN THERE.
THEY'RE NOT A EXCLUSIVE GATED COMMUNITY WITH HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOMES, WHICH PROBABLY DON'T HAVE MANY KIDS.
THESE ARE MULTIFAMILY AND RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE STARTER HOMES THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING IN OUT THERE.
WE DO HAVE SOME GROWTH UP IN THE NORTH, BUT NONE NEARLY AS MUCH IN THE SOUTH ARE SCHOOLS IN THE NORTH HALF CAPACITY.
CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OPTIMAL THE WAY THAT WHERE THE CAPACITY IS DISTRIBUTED, BUT THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE NEED.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN A NEW SCHOOL NORTH OF THE BROAD, OTHER THAN SOME REPLACEMENT THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT OR OLD SCHOOL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USEFULNESS.
SO, UM, I AM, I BELIEVE THAT OUR FIRST PIECE OF, UH, GROUND THAT WE CAN USE THAT WE ALREADY OWN IS THAT THE MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX.
AND I BELIEVE THAT ISA GROUND COULD HOLD A LARGE, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR A MEDIUM SIZE K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL SINCE WE OWN THAT PROPERTY.
AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF SITE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.
UM, WE COULD MOVE VERY QUICKLY AT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT THAT IN THE LONG-TERM IS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT.
THE REAL ISSUE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO, WHEN WE CAN BRING THIS BEFORE THE VOTERS, BECAUSE THERE'S THESE NEW SCHOOLS, WE NEED A REFERENDUM, UH, TO FUND THESE SCHOOLS.
UH, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE PAST PRACTICE OF USING 8% FUNDS FOR MAJOR CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
UH, THAT THAT IS NOT A GOOD STRATEGY.
SO TIMING OF WHEN WE WOULD HAVE A, UM, REFERENDUM IS VERY CRITICAL.
UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT REFERENDUM VOTES ON AN OFF CYCLE, UH, ELECTION CYCLE ARE NOT A GOOD TIME TO BRING UP REFERENDUMS. THAT'S THE BEST TIME TO BRING UP REFERENDUMS IS DURING THE EVERY TWO YEAR MAJOR CYCLE WHEN WE GET A LOT OF VOTER PARTICIPATION.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ANY MOVES AND WE DON'T WANT TO IN THE 2022 ELECTION, BUT THE 2024 ELECTION IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WE WILL NOT NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, FOR SURE, THE 20, 26 AT PROBABLY THE LATEST, BUT THE 20, 24 IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD USE 8% MONEY TO DO
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THE DESIGN WORK, ANTICIPATING A SUCCESSFUL REFERENDUM.THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE MAY RIVER AND RIVER RIDGE EXTENSIONS.
WE USE 8% MONEY TO DO ALL THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING.
SO AS SOON AS THE REFERENDUM PASSED, WE COULD BREAK GROUND AND START CONSTRUCTION.
AND GIVEN THE GROWTH THAT I'M SEEING IN BLUFFTON, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DUPLICATE THAT KIND OF EFFORT AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR RAMBLING ON, BUT I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW WHAT LEAST ONE BOARD MEMBER, UH, IS LOOKING AT.
I JUST HAD ONE, UH, MAIN QUESTION, UH, KIND OF A PROBING QUESTION FOR YOU BOTH BASED ON YOUR EXPERTISE AND BOTH COMMERCIAL, AND THEN IN EDUCATION, LAND ACQUISITION, UM, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN REGARD TO PRICES FOR LAND DUE TO COVID? ARE YOU SEEING, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE FLUCTUATION? ARE YOU SEEING SKYROCKETING? OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THAT, UM, HOME VALUES, UM, RESIDENTIAL HOME VALUES ARE THROUGH THE ROOF AND BUILDING IS DELAYED DUE TO SUPPLY.
AND, UM, SO WHAT IS YOUR, IF YOU COULD TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO ME AS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ALSO HOW COVID IMPACTED THE SCHOOLS.
I WOULD RESPOND BY SAYING THE FIRST YEAR OF COVID SLOWED A LOT OF THINGS DOWN IN TERMS OF SCHOOLS.
UH, IT WAS A LOT OF ADJUSTMENT TO BE MADE AND I ENDED LAST YEAR.
UH, I THINK WE ARE NOW ENGAGING OURSELVES BACK INTO AN ECONOMY WHERE PROCESS HAVE ESCALATED.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THE PRICES HAVE ESCALATED, UH, IN, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO, UH, UH, I'M NOT IN HOUSING, BUT I DO KEEP UP WITH IT IS CERTAINLY REFLECTED THERE.
PROMPT IS A PART OF THAT ASSOCIATION, BUT PROPERTY AT LARGE, UH, YES.
THE, THE VALUES THAT YOU PLAY TODAY HAS MORE THAN IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN, WHICH HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING TO ME IS THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT HAS TRADED IN BOTH BUFORD AND JASPER COUNTY OVER THE LAST 10 TO 12 MONTHS.
UM, IT'S JUST BEEN ASTRONOMICAL AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS MOVING TO THE AREA, BUYING LAND WITH NO PLANS, LAND BANK IN IT, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN DRIVING UP THE PRICE PER ACRE.
HOWEVER, I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO RUN INTO IS THE INCREASED THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, UM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE DISTRICT TO, UM, PAY ATTENTION TO IT'S.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
WE HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING, 10 MONTHS AGO, WE HAD A BUDGET ON A NEW, NEW BUILD THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMING UP IN BLUFFTON, AND WE WERE THREE, FOUR FOR THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S, UM, I'D SAY SIGNIFICANT MATTER IS GOING TO IMPACT.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, UM, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SLATED TO GO, UM, YOU KNOW, FORWARD OVER THE NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS.
UM, SO WE'LL SEE, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'LL ALL TRICKLE DOWN TO, TO, TO THE LAND AND WHAT, WHAT DEVELOPERS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OTHER BUILDERS COULD PAY FOR THE LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK ON AN ECONOMICS STANDPOINT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
IT'S, UM, IT, IT IS KIND OF, I THINK IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING MORE LAND SALES THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN, UM, IN OUR AREA AND THE PRICE BREAKER HAS GONE UP, BUT I, I WILL, I WANT TO PUT NOTE THAT COST OF CONSTRUCTION'S A BIG AND, AND OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, UH, REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS, THEY'RE ALL STRETCHED TO THE MAX.
THEIR FEES ARE, YOU KNOW, SO SOFT COSTS AND HARD COSTS ARE ALL UP.
THANK Y'ALL BOTH FOR THAT FEEDBACK.
I THINK THAT THAT MAKES, UM, THE, THE CONVERSATION SURROUNDING COVID AND THEN ALSO US TALKING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL LAND AND THE LAND THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO DISPOSE OF POTENTIALLY.
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THE PRICE IS BEING UP.THERE'S A BENEFIT THERE TO THAT FOR US, BUT THEN ALSO AS WE LOOK TO BUY LAND AND THE COST BEING UP, SO MAYBE IT'LL EQUAL ITSELF OUT.
UM, WE CAN ONLY HOPE, UM, DID ANY OF THE OTHER, I, I DO SEE, WE HAVE SOME OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE ON, UM, DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE CONSULTANTS? OKAY.
JUST WANT TO MAKE AFTER GLAD'S HOOPS, I THINK YOU'RE MUTED AND NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME.
UM, I'M CHRISTINA GWADAR AND I'M THE DISTRICT NINE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD.
AND, UH, MY, UH, GEOGRAPHIC AREA IS THIS HIGH GROWTH AREA IN BLUFFTON.
SO IT INCLUDES, UM, OLD TOWN BLUFFTON, BUT NEW RIVERSIDE IS ONE OF THE BIG AREAS, PALMETTO BLUFF, ET CETERA.
SO I FIRST WANT TO THANK BOTH GENTLEMEN, UH, FOR, UH, BEING ON THE CALL TODAY AND YOUR INTRODUCTIONS AND YOUR REMARKS THUS FAR, THEY'VE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL AND, AND EXCELLENT.
I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN A COMMERCIAL CLIENT OF BAKER WILKINS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO AND WAS VERY SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE I GOT.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE, UH, BAKER AGAIN, UH, UH, CIRCLING BACK IN ANOTHER CAPACITY.
UM, I HAVE, SO SOME OF THE THINGS I WOULD, UH, REEMPHASIZE WHERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, COLONEL GEIER MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY, UM, LIKE THE, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE ALREADY OWN, THE LIBIDO PROPERTY, UH, IS AN INTERESTING PROPERTY, I THINK, AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT.
AND THEN THE KING STREET IS AS MR. GUYER MENTIONED TOO, CAUSE THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, AND, AND, UH, SO THOSE ARE TWO AND HE, AND HE MENTIONED, UH, TWO OTHERS AS I, AS I RECALL.
I KNOW WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF LAND ALREADY, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW AND, UM, ARE THERE AROUND OUR OTHER SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON ALL, ARE THERE ANY POSSIBILITIES AT ANY, IS THERE A JASON LAND? UM, EVEN AS, AS, UH, MR. BARRY SAID, YOU DON'T MAY NOT BE, UH, ADVERTISED FOR SALE, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT TO ONE OF OUR CURRENT SCHOOLS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT AN OPTION? I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
UM, I THINK THOSE WERE KIND OF THE MAIN THING.
SO MAIN THINGS I WANTED TO SAY, BUT I THANK YOU.
THOSE ARE, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, DR.
GAWANDE'S ABOUT, UM, ADJACENT LAND TO EXISTING SITES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, WHERE THE LAND MIGHT NOT BE LISTED, BUT IT MIGHT BE, UM, A PRETTY PICTURE FOR SOMEONE ELSE, UH, DOWN THE ROAD TO SELL IT.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OUR COMMITTEE HAS LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE SITES AND, UM, THERE'S NOTHING PRESENTLY, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT, UM, MR. BARRY'S GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO ANY POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
SO, UM, DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE THANK THE GENTLEMEN FOR COMING AND LET THEM GO ON TO THEIR DINNERS? YOU DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED, SO THANK YOU, MR. WILKINS, AND MR. BARRY, AGAIN, FOR, FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND GIVING US A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO FOR US AND A SPLIT FOR THE WORK.
UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY TALKING TO YOU IN A FEW MONTHS, UH, AFTER YOU'VE HAD SOME TIME TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET SOME THINGS COMPILED.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
I HAVE ONE, BUT DID ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UH, WE SHOULD HAVE CAROL THE 45 DAY REPORT AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND BE READY TO GO.
THAT MIGHT BE CUTTING IT A LITTLE CLOSE.
I WAS, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MINE AS WELL.
SO, CAROL, UM, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT, I THINK OUR NEXT MEETING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SLATED FOR OCTOBER 28TH.
IS THAT RIGHT? ROBIN, MAYBE, MAYBE 28 OR 21ST.
WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO DO A REPORT ON THE 45 DAYS NUMBERS CAROL, OR IS THAT CUTTING IT REALLY CLOSE?
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THAT'S PROBABLY CUTTING IT REALLY CLOSE.I THINK THE 45TH DAY IS LIKE THAT WEEK.
SO I, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN MAYBE SAYING WHAT IT IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D BE ABLE TO REPORT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, I CAN DO A DATA PULL AT ANY TIME, BUT WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE REPORTING TO THE STATE IS WHAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING AS WELL.
AND SO WE HAVE TO GIVE DATA SERVICES TIME TO DO THAT PROCESSING AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS CORRECT, UM, WITH WHAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING TO THE STATE.
SO THAT USUALLY PUTS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT I WOULD SAY BY NOVEMBER, WE SHOULD CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER ITEM THAT, UH, SORT OF OUTSTANDING, WE WHEN, UM, UH, MARIA WALLS CAME AND SPOKE AND SHE HAD GIVING US INFORMATION, UM, ON INCREASES IN, UM, TAX ACCOUNTS THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THAT DATA SET AND OVERLAY IT WITH OUR HISTORIC STUDENT DATASET.
AND I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT READY FOR YOUR NEXT, UM, AGENDA AS WELL.
SO THAT WAS THE OVERLAY WITH THE TAGS YES.
SO I HAVE THE DATA FROM THE COUNTY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DOING THAT HISTORICAL ANALYSIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY GIVE YOU SORT OF A ONE-YEAR GROWTH LOOK OF WITH THAT AND MAYBE A FIVE-YEAR GROWTH LOOK AT THAT.
SO, UM, IF IT'S AGREEABLE TO Y'ALL OR THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO IT, I'D PUT THE 45 DAY NUMBERS ON THE NOVEMBER CALENDAR.
I KNOW A TREASURER AT WALL'S ALSO SAID THAT SHE WOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME UPDATED TAX INFORMATION FOR US BY, BY END OF OCTOBER.
SO I'M ABLE TO GET AN UPDATE FROM HER ON OUR NOVEMBER MEETING AS WELL HAVE TO REACH OUT.
UM, BUT THEN FOR OUR OCTOBER MEETING, THEN WE'LL JUST DO THE TAG ITEM, UM, KROGER.
AND I'M SURE I GOT ANOTHER IDEA THAT YOU HEAR FROM, UH, THE INSTRUCTIONAL DIVISION ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF A K THROUGH FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL VERSUS A K THROUGH EIGHT, UH, NO MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE ROBERT SMALLS AND SO ON.
THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE AT MAY RIVER IS WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE THING FOR INSTRUCTION GIVEN OUR GROWTH? WOULD IT BE BETTER TO HAVE A, A SEPARATE ELEMENTARY AND A SEPARATE MIDDLE SCHOOL, OR IS IT BETTER TO COMBINE THEM? I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD BOTH CASES FROM PARENTS, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD REALLY THE INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES FOLKS COME IN AND SAY FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING, WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF EACH CONFIGURATION? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE VALUABLE IN OUR CONSIDERATION OF WHAT, WHAT WE PUT WHERE WHEN YEAH, WELL LET'S UM, SO THEN LET'S DO, IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE INSTRUCTIONAL DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM ON THAT OCTOBER MEETING AS WELL.
UM, JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND THAT, UM, ROBIN, UM, I CAN REACH OUT TO DR.
STRATOSE, UM, FOR THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
MA'AM THE NOVEMBER MEETING WOULD FALL ON THANKSGIVING.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THAT AT ANOTHER DATE IN NOVEMBER.
SO JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, OKAY.
YEAH, WE, THAT DOES FALL ON THANKSGIVING, DOESN'T IT? THE 18TH IS AVAILABLE FOR ME.
IS THAT OKAY FOR THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND CAROL? SO THE NORTH OF THE BROAD GROUP WOULD NEED ON THE THIRD.
THEY NEED AT FOUR O'CLOCK ON THE THIRD THURSDAY.
SO IF YOU MEET ON THE 18TH, YOU WOULD NEED TO CHANGE YOUR TIME.
NOT UNLESS, UM, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE EARL AND TRISHA ON SO THEY CAN ANSWER THAT.
WELL, AND COLONEL GEIER STARTS ON THAT, I THINK TOO, AS WELL, RIGHT? NO.
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THANK YOU.UM, THEY, UM, NORTH OF THE ABROAD HAD PUT OUT A TENTATIVE DATE TO MEET ON THE 21ST.
IS THAT THE THIRD THURSDAY IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER AND OCTOBER IS THE THIRD THURSDAY IN OCTOBER? YES.
SO I JUST, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT NOVEMBER, BUT CAROL, DID YOU GET MY EMAIL THAT SAID I'M NOT AVAILABLE THAT DAY? CAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE REACHING OUT TO, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF BUFORD IN BUFORD COUNTY TO HAVE THE PLANNERS TO SPEAK TO US AT THAT MEETING.
BUT DID YOU GET MY EMAIL THAT I COPIED YOU IN WITH MR. CAMPBELL SAID I CAN'T ATTEND THAT ONE, SO CORRECT.
I HAD ASKED IF WE COULD DO THE FOLLOWING WEEK, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE WHEN YOU ALL ARE MEETING.
IS THAT RIGHT, RACHEL? YES, WE MISS TYPICALLY THE, THE LAST THURSDAY.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO DERAIL, BUT I JUST WAS WANTING TO GET, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, OUR MEETING DATES OVERLAPPING THERE.
SO YOU HAVE, YEAH, I WAS WAITING FOR YOU ALL TO WORK OUT THOSE JUST DATES AND THEN I'LL ASK THE, THE COUNTY.
WELL, UM, I'LL CLEARLY WE KNOW THAT OUR DATE IN OCTOBER IS THE 28TH AND, UH, ROBIN, IF YOU CAN QUERY EVERYBODY FOR THEIR AVAILABILITY IN NOVEMBER THEN, AND WE'LL JUST TRY TO FIND ALTERNATE DATE THAT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THAT WORKS TO GET, UM, EVERYBODY THERE, IF HOPEFULLY MARIA THERE, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE 45 DAY NUMBER ON THAT CALENDAR AS WELL.
AND THAT YOU HAVE EARL'S HAND UP AS WELL.
I WAS, I WAS SUGGESTING TO CAROL, COULD WE MEET THAT WEDNESDAY OR A FRIDAY? LET ME SEE.
THAT WEDNESDAY WORKS FOR ME, FOR SURE.
THE 19TH, UM, DOES NOT WORK FOR ME IN THE EVENING.
SO NOVEMBER OR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH.
OH, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHWEST BRIAN? NEVERMIND.
SO MR. CAMPBELL, HOW ABOUT YOU? AND I WORKED THAT OUT.
I DERAILED THE CONVERSATION BY BRINGING THAT UP.
SO HOW ABOUT MR. CAMPBELL? I'LL EMAIL YOU SOME DATES AND WE CAN WORK THAT OUT.
BUT THE FOUR ITEMS THAT I HAVE THAT ARE OUTSTANDING IS A K THROUGH EIGHT VERSUS K THROUGH FIVE.
FOR WHAT INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, A 45 DAY NUMBERS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER.
UM, HOPEFULLY AN UPDATE FROM TREASURER WALLS IN NOVEMBER.
AND THEN THERE WAS ONE OTHER ITEM, THE TAG, THE TAG, THE TAG ALSO IN OCTOBER.
SO IN OCTOBER WE HAVE THE, TO TAG IN THE K FIVE TO K EIGHT IS IN NOVEMBER.
WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING TODAY AND JOINING WITH US.
UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I SECOND IT WONDERFUL.