Sep 23, 2021 Solid Waste and Recycling Board

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IT IS OFFICIALLY 2 0 1.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO SEPTEMBER 23RD, THURSDAY AND THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING BOARD MEETING FROM COUNTY.

UH, SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS

[2. CALL TO ORDER]

EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED THIS IN A LINK FORM.

THIS TIME IS A PDF FORM, WHICH I ACTUALLY GOT HER UP.

SO THAT WAS GOOD.

SO, UH, SO I WOULD APPROVE THAT

[3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND? OKAY.

THE MINUTES FROM

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – JULY 22, 2021]

UM, I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THOSE CINDY SENT THEM OUT.

UM, AND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT MEETING WENT, UM, FOR PUSHING, I BELIEVE, 80 MINUTES OR SO.

UH, DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE? AND IF SO, I APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 22ND.

WE WOULD, UH, COULD AT LEAST SIT FOR A SECOND, NOT A SECOND.

OKAY.

SO WE'D LIKE TO GO AS WE ALWAYS DO, UH, AROUND THE ROOM, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL GATHERING TODAY.

UH, BUT WITH INTRODUCTIONS,

[5. INTRODUCTIONS]

ALL RIGHT.

I'M KIM CORLEY DISTRICT EIGHT, SALLY DENNIS DISTRICT SEVEN, RANDY BALMY DISTRICT NINE WILL GRANTED DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE, BRAD WOODS MARINE CORPS, RECRUIT DEPOT, PARIS ISLAND, CINDY CARTER, BUFORD COUNTY SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING EITHER COUNTY BUSINESS MANAGER.

OKAY.

AND AS I SAID, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

AND AS I HAD SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC, SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, LESS.

IT WAS SUBMITTED IN WRITING NUNS.

OKAY.

SO UPDATES REGARDING

[7. UPDATES REGARDING MEETINGS WITH COUNTY COUNCIL (ALL) REPORTS]

ONE RESPONDED, UH, BRIAN AND HIS QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THE STATUS AND THIS SENSATION OF THE CLOSED CONVENIENCE CENTERS, WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH THEM? OR WHAT IS IT OFTEN THAT USE FORM? UM, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I MADE TODAY, BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTIES WERE INCLUDED IN OUR LEGAL COUNSEL'S REVIEW OF ALL AVAILABLE BEAVER COUNTY PROPERTIES.

I KNOW WE HAVE INTEREST IN, UH, SOMEONE OBTAINING POSSESSION OF, OF A SALE OR THE OLD, UM, WE HAVE STILL NOT MOVED INTENDED HUTS FROM EITHER OF THE SIDES.

UM, BUT IT WILL GO ON INTO THE LIST OF AVAILABLE PROPERTIES.

AND HIS SECOND QUESTION WAS, UH, ABOUT COLLECTION AND AROUND HIS DISTRICT.

AND CAN ANYTHING BE DONE, PROBABLY PORT WORLD'S NOT INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THEIR COLLECTION INTO SOME OF THESE AREAS.

AND HE THINKS THERE'S A NEED FOR COLLECTION IN SOME OF HIS AREAS, PORT ROYAL IS SERVICED BY THEIR CONTRACT FORT ROY, RIGHT? UM, SO ANY INTERESTS OUTSIDE OF THOSE BOUNDARIES, UH, WOULD BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY COULD CALL.

AND, AND SO LIKE ANY PURPOSE THAT SERVICE IT'S A COUNTY CAPABLE OF CREATING A DISTRICT AROUND AN AREA AND LET OUT A BID ON NINE CONTRACTS.

WE STARTED, WE DID AN RFP AT ONE POINT IN TIME FOR CURBSIDE SERVICE WHERE THE COUNTY WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST FOR THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.

BUT WE DID NOT AWARD THAT CONTRACT.

IT WAS A SINGLE CONTRACT AND MULTIPLE OF THAT ONE AT THE TIME WAS BID.

AS YOU COULD HAVE ONE DISTRICT, OR YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.

UM, WHEN WE ACTUALLY GOT DOWN TO THE REVIEW, THERE WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE CONTRACTOR, BUT, WELL, I SAID WE DID NOT AWARD AT THE TIME BECAUSE DID BRIAN HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ME? DID BRIAN HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD? OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CONTACTING HIM AND TALKING TO HIM.

AND I HOPE THE OTHER COUNCIL PERSON

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I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO MARK LAWSON.

I TALKED TO HIM OFTEN, UH, GONNA MEET WITH HIM NEXT WEEK AND IT'S JUST CONSTANT PRESSURE JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AGENDA AND IT'S BECOMING MORE IMPORTANT AS WE PUSH FORWARD AS THE URBANIZATION OF BUFORD COUNTY CONTINUES, UH, AT, UH, EXPONENTIAL RATES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

WE HAVE SOME REPORTS WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH HERE.

UH, I ACTUALLY THINK THIS MIGHT BE KIND OF A SHORT MEETING.

WE HAVE SOME REPORTS, UH, HERE, UM, IN CINDY, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO BE HANDLING THEM ALL.

SO THE MONTH REPORT

[8. SWR MONTHLY REPORT JULY 21 FY22 and AUGUST 21 FY22]

UH, YES, SIR.

UM, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE JULY AND AUGUST DATA IS IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE, BUT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OTHER THINGS BEFORE WE GET TO THIS.

UM, WE ARE STILL SEEING A SHIFT FROM THE COLLECTION CENTERS TO CURBSIDE, UM, BETWEEN, UH, LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR IS ACTUALLY DONE ANOTHER 10% TOTAL.

UH, SO CURRENTLY THE HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE DISPOSAL THROUGH THE CENTERS, IS IT 22.5% OF THE TOTAL DISPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN 77 IS FROM CURBSIDE.

THAT IS NOT INCLUDING C AND D OR YARD WASTE.

UM, OUR POLLS GETTING TO OUR GRAPH HERE, OUR FOALS ARE DOWN 469, UH, FOR JULY AND AUGUST OVER THIS TIME, LAST YEAR.

SO IN THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR 22, THAT'S A SAVINGS OF $83,382 IN HAULING.

AND THIS IS YOUR DISPOSAL.

UM, SLIDE, A REMINDER THAT BEAVER COUNTY PAYS FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL DISPOSAL, WHETHER IT'S GOING THROUGH THE CENTER OR IF IT'S CURBSIDE.

UM, WE ARE DOWN 1025 TONS COMPARED TO THIS TIME LAST YEAR, BUT THE DISPOSAL SAVINGS ARE ONLY $26,236.

UM, THERE HAS BEEN A CPI INCREASE ON ALL OF OUR DISPOSAL COST.

UM, FOR HICKORY HILL, WE WENT FROM $43 AND 30 CENTS TO 43 95 FOR OAKWOOD C AND D.

WE WENT FROM 1825 TO 1946 AND THE OTHER ONE WENT UP TO THAT.

I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS WITH ANTICIPATING THOSE INCREASES.

I'M SORRY.

WERE YOU ANTICIPATING THOSE INCREASES? I WAS ANTICIPATING THE INCREASE FOR HICKORY HEEL.

I WAS NOT ANTICIPATING, UM, OAKWOOD, LANDFILL AND RACE.

SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO I'M GOING TO GO BACK.

YOU SEE SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE IN LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR ON OUR HAULING.

THE IS NOT SO MUCH.

WE ARE SEEING A LITTLE, BUT IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS WAY THAT TRAFFIC AT THE CENTERS IS DOWN 49,000 VEHICLES COMPARED TO AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY WE ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE DECAL SYSTEM.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY WHAT THIS IS PULLED INTO AND AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, WE WERE NOT SHOWING THIS TYPE OF NUMBERS, THE RECYCLING, RIGHT? SO WERE THEY ON A HUNDRED TO 80, 80 TONS TO A HUNDRED TIMES IN THE TWO MONTHS? SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT THEMSELVES DISTURBING OR THE RECYCLING'S DOWN, BUT IT WAS TO BE EXPECTED.

I WANT TO REMIND THE LISTENERS THAT THIS SHAKE ONE CENTER AND THE BLUFFTON CENTER ARE OPEN FOR ALL RECYCLING WITH OR WITHOUT A DECAL.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO BE SURE THAT, UH, MR. BRYAN KNOWS THAT WE HAVE MORE THE EXIT LANES AT THOSE TWO CENTERS.

AND SO PEOPLE SHOULD BE EASILY DIRECTED IF THEY WANT TO RECYCLE AND THEN LEAVE THE CENTER BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THE SCANNING.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION.

YES, SIR.

SO WITH RECYCLING DOWN 49,000, WE KNOW IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DECAL SYSTEM OF THAT 49,000.

HOW MUCH OF IT DO YOU THINK IS FROM OUT OF COUNTY THAT HAS BEEN STOPPED ANY CLUE AT ALL? WELL, WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID HAVE THE ONE WEEKEND AROUND

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OKAY.

OKAY.

INTERESTING.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD HANDLE THE RECYCLING REPORT ALSO.

SO THE VOLUNTEER, THE VOLUNTEER REPORT THAT CAROLINE WOULD NORMALLY GET, CINDY ARE, YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH THAT.

I'M GOING TO DO.

UM, VICTORIA IS, IS THE RECYCLING

[9. RECYCLING COORDINATOR REPORT]

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, SHE ATTENDED THE SWAT CONFERENCE IN RODENT, VIRGINIA.

UH, BACK IN AUGUST ON, SHE IS WORKING WITH A TOPHUS INITIATIVE TO, UM, HAVE ANOTHER BIG SALE OF BANDS ON, SHE DID A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, OLDFIELD, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

SO SHE'S WORKED WITH THEM TO DOING SOME TRAINING AND THE USE OF THOSE BEANS.

SO SHE'S BEEN VERY BUSY, UM, WITH HER, WITH HER NEW ROLE.

SO SHE WAS SORRY THAT SHE COULDN'T ATTEND TODAY.

UM, THERE WAS AN ELECTRONICS RECYCLING EVENT, SEPTEMBER 11TH.

UH, WE HAD 812 VEHICLES COME THROUGH THE TWO LOCATIONS.

UH, AND THE NEXT EVENT IS DECEMBER THE 11TH.

AND THOSE ALWAYS RUN FROM NINE TO THREE.

THERE'S ALWAYS THE ONE ENERGY FOR, AT ONE 40 SHAMED ONE AND THE ONE IN BLUFFTON AT NINE BEDS AND FUEL, RIGHT? DECEMBER 11TH ELECTROLYSIS.

YES, SIR.

AND YOU SEND EMAILS OUT ACCORDINGLY FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE, OKAY.

PRESS RELEASES THAT GO OUT IT'S ON FACEBOOK.

YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO, AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE COMING QUARTERLY AND THOSE THINGS ARE ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE.

OH.

BUT THE REASON I ASKED A MILE CHARGES IN HERE, I SAW EARLY.

SO MY CHURCH MOSTLY AME CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE MEMBERS WORKING.

THEY DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT SO THAT THEY CAN GET IT DOWN TO THEIR SHAME HERE.

CINDY, WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WENT TO THE RECYCLING MEETING? GOOD.

CHRIS CAMPBELL GO WHEN YOU JUST MENTIONED, OH, IN AUGUST INTO THE SWAN INNOVATING IN ROANOKE.

UH, THAT'S A NATIONAL WASTE CONFERENCE.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER ONE THAT JUST, IS THERE A LOCAL CHAPTER? THERE IS A PALMETTO CHAPTER.

IN FACT, THEY ACTUALLY ARE MEETING THIS WEEK.

UH, WE WERE PLANNING TO BE THERE, BUT WE HAD AN UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE COULD NOT WHO WEARS IT.

UH, THIS YEAR IT WAS ILL IN MYRTLE BEACH, I THINK IN PAST YEARS IT'S BUILT IN PAWLEYS ISLAND.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE CAROLINE ASPECT OF VOLUNTEER.

[10. VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR REPORT]

CAROLYN SAID THAT SHE WANTED US TO REMIND YOU GUYS THAT THE ANNUAL MEETING IS OCTOBER 5TH AND TODAY IS THE LAST DAY TO RSVP.

SO IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, PLEASE SEND HER AN EMAIL OR GIVE HER A CALL.

SO WE ALL HEARD THAT BECAUSE I WAS NOT AWARE IT WAS GOING TO BE RSVP.

I JUST SAT HER, SEE YOU THERE, BUT OFFICIALLY I SHOULD, WE SHOULD, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE EMAILS I TAKE IT.

SO, OKAY.

AT THIS POINT, DO WE HAVE ANY NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHO PLANS ON IT? TODAY'S THE LAST DAY WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE.

I STOPPED HER AND I THINK SHE HAD 30 RSVPS.

IT'S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY THE OSCAR FRASIER COMMUNITY CENTER.

UM, THE POUNDING OF THE PRIDE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENT AND THEY ARE PROVIDING MUCH BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE DRIVING FACTOR OF MEETING RSVP.

AND MR. GREENWAY WILL, HE WILL BE SPEAKING.

HE WILL BE SPEAKING AS WELL AS COUNCIL CHAIR, PASSIVE TEXTING, AND ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT CAROLINE AND OUR TRAIL ATTENDED THE SOUTH CAROLINA LITTER ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATION

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TWO WEEKS AGO, BUFORD COUNTY WON FOUR AWARDS.

UH, WE WON THE COUNTY AWARD, THE AFFILIATE FOR KEEPING YOU FOR COUNTY BEAUTIFUL, THE PARTNERSHIP AWARD OR ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION.

AND WE HAVE A LITTER CHAMPION AND THOSE WILL BE DISCUSSED IN FURTHER DETAIL AT THE KEY BOARD MEETING UP.

UM, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE FOUR AWARDS.

OBVIOUSLY IT WAS IN A YEAR OF EDITORS AND ALSO LIKES TO REPORT THAT OUR TRAIL FORM, THEY WENT, UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT HERE TODAY.

I WAS APPOINTED TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA LITERARY ASSOCIATION BOARD.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

UM, OUR TRAIL, PLEASE EXTEND TO HIM.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE WORD? IT'S THE SOUTH CAROLINA, THE NOMINATED WE NOMINATED THIS YEAR AND OF THOSE STATEWIDE NOMINATIONS, BEAVER COUNTY.

ONE IS THE COUNTY AWARD WINNER, THE AFFILIATE, WHICH IS THE KEY BEAVER COUNTY, BEAUTIFUL BOARD, THE PARTNERSHIP AWARD WITH PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION AND A LITTER CHAMPION.

AND I'LL NOT NAME THAT PERSON YET BECAUSE YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

SO, UM, MY, MY QUESTION WAS, UM, THANK YOU FOR RESTATING THAT MY QUESTION WAS, ARE KRELL, UH, IN WHAT HE WAS APPOINTED THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION BOARD LITTER ASSOCIATION BOARD, OR JUST WANT TO LOOK THEM UP AND I GO INTO COLUMBIA MEETING WITH THEM AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP YOU FOR KIM.

FANTASTIC.

RECENTLY, OUR TRAIL WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THE FACT THAT, UM, THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ASKED FOR OUR MOST LITTERED REDS.

UH, THEY WANTED, I THINK, 50 MILES AND 10 LOCATIONS.

SO WE HAD SUBMITTED THAT INFORMATION AND, UM, HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE ACADEMIC.

SO THERE ARE 11 AWARDS AND TOTALITY THAT ARE GRANTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? DID SHE HEAR, I WANT TO SAY THERE WERE, I BELIEVE SEVEN.

WHOA.

SO AGAIN, A SPECTACULAR PERFORMANCE OF GIFFORD COUNTY.

YEAH.

VENTILATIONS ON THAT SANDY AND EVERYONE ELSE.

THAT'S A, THAT'S QUITE A STATEMENT.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE DOWN TO, UH, THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. WELL, LITERALLY

[11. LITTER AND ENFORCEMENT INITIATIVE REPORT DISCUSSION ITEMS]

IS THERE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT OR IS THAT WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR TRIAL? DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE

[12. CONVENIENCE CENTER DECAL PROGRAM UPDATE]

SHE HAS WORKED NONSTOP SINCE THE DECAL SYSTEM WAS FIRST STARTED AND THEN SHE'S HANDLED 51,000 119 8 HOUSE.

AND I COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT HER.

WE ARE IN THE PHONE PUSH, UH, TO MAKE SURE ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HAVE A DECAL.

UM, WE WILL HAVE A DECAL ONLY ENTRANCE NOVEMBER 1ST.

SO IF YOU GET TO A CENTER, YOU DON'T HAVE A DECAL.

YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COME IN AFTER NOVEMBER 1ST, IF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, I TOLD THEM WE HAD GONE TO A SERIES OF GREEN, YELLOW, RED POSTCARDS.

WE'VE BEEN PROCESSING THOSE DAILY.

UM, AND SO AS WE GO INTO OCTOBER, THOSE WILL BE THE RED.

THAT MEANS THAT'S YOUR LAST CHANCE.

OBVIOUSLY WE'D STILL SEE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO USE THE CENTERS FROM APARTMENT COMPLEXES, UH, FROM COMMERCIAL MOBILE HOME PARKS, PLACES THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR A DETAIL.

UM, WE DID NOT ISSUE THE DECALS TO RENTERS IT'S FOR THE PARCEL ENVELOPE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE ON HEIRS PROPERTY, EVERYBODY IN THAT PROPERTY DOES GET A DECAL THAT IS ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT SYSTEM SO FAR.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN ALREADY SEE THE RESULTS.

WE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER STATES TO POTENTIALLY DUPLICATE OUR PRIORITY.

SO WE'RE REAL PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

YOU SHOULD BE IT'S 51,000 DECALS.

THAT'S A LOT OF DECALS.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ONE MORE PRESS RELEASE OCTOBER OF ABOUT OCTOBER 8TH OR SEVEN TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING UP TO THE END, PROBABLY ONE ON THE 1ST OF NOVEMBER.

UM, TWO

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SO WE HAVE DONE THAT FOR THESE THREE MONTHS.

UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO TOUCH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN THAT IT'S BEEN A YEAR NOW.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT IT THAT YEAR WAS A YEAR THAT YOU'RE LOST IN TIME 2020, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE JUSTIN EVERY DAY.

OH MY GOODNESS.

[13. WESTON AND SAMPSON REPORT]

UM, THE REPORT WAS DONE IN CLUSTERS AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, THERE'S A CLUSTER, A CLUSTER, B, C AND D.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DECIDED ON.

UM, WE ASKED FOR SEVERAL PRACTICE AREA.

UH, ONE WAS THAT IT SHOULD BE SOUTH OF THE BROAD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE DENSE POPULATION IS.

UH, WE HAD PREFERRED ACRE TO 50 PLUS ACRES WITH SUITABLE SOILS, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANTED IT WHERE IT COULD BE SUITED FOR A MIXED USE WASTE MANAGEMENT CAMPUS.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

UM, WHAT I ASKED THE BOARD TO DO TODAY IS RECOMMEND THAT WE SUBMIT THIS REPORT FOR INFORMATION ONLY TO THE NEXT PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING ON OCTOBER 18TH.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THAT AND REVIEW IT BEFORE I EVER SAW ANYONE.

WELL, AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

I CAN SEND EVERYBODY A LINK.

WHAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DO IS THINK THAT THESE SITES HAVE BEEN CHOSEN BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION TO COMMIT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN AND VISION FOR A CAMPUS.

MY CONFUSION IS YOU TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY CAMPUS.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, CREATE QUOTE, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO READ UP POTENTIAL MIXED USE WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITY INCLUDE A MATERIAL RECYCLING FACILITY OR A SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATION, WHICH COULD BE FOR MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE OR FOR SANDY.

IT COULD BE FOR YOUR, AND OR FOOD WASTE COMPOSTING.

AND IT COULD ALSO SERVE AS A COLLECTION CAMPUS OR LANDFILL BANNED ITEMS, SUCH AS WASTE TIRES, ELECTRONICS, AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.

THAT'S THE VISION.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WOULD HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

IT COULD HAVE POTENTIAL FOR ANY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

WHY WOULD IT HAVE TO BE AT ONE SITE? IT WOULDN'T.

THAT WAS THAT WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE THINK THAT IT WOULD, FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT, IF EVERYTHING WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT JUST THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE THE WASTE IS.

SO IF WE'RE TRANSFERRING ANYTHING, THAT'S WHERE THE VOLUME OF WASTE IS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S JUST AN EXPENSE PERSPECTIVE.

ULTIMATELY, THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE SUSTAINABILITY CAMPUSES, BUT, UH, BY CHANCE, DID YOU EVER SEE THE DIAGRAM, UH, THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS DAVE WILHELM RENDERED THE BIG ONE THAT HE BROUGHT, YES.

HE HAD A COLOR SCHEMATIC.

THIS IS JUST THE NEXT STEP IN TRYING TO FIND A SUITABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN OUR AMIE THAT COULD HOUSE SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE FEEL LIKE AS A, AS A COUNTY, WE NEED MOVING FORWARD.

AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND SINI CORRECT ME, BECAUSE I PROBABLY AM WRONG ON THIS, BUT THE VISION WAS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING EDUCATIONAL BUILDING, UH, THAT WE COULD TAKE, UH, SCHOOL, FIELD TRIPS TO, AND THEN IT WOULD GO ALL AROUND AND THEN THE PRIVATIZATION OF GLASS OF ROBBER.

SO THERE WOULD BE OUTSIDE ENTITIES, NOT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE INVOLVED IN THOSE DIFFERENT ASSETS.

IT COULD BE THAT COULD BE RUN BY THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THIS IS SAYING, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS FOR THIS.

YES, SIR.

WHEN I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I AGREE WITH YOU OR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE MAIN POPULACE AS IT STANDS

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I JUST SAID HOW I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT, BUT WHERE IS IT GOING TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE ARM OF THE SOUTH? THE GIRL? OH, THAT'S WHAT THIS SLOT IS SHOWING YOU THIS OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE JUST MENTIONED WITH THE PLUS ACRE SUITABLE SOILS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE COULD BE A MIXED USE ZONING.

THESE THERE'S LIKE 15 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE EVALUATING.

OKAY.

I THINK MY PROBLEM IS YOU'RE COMING UP WITH HIS THING, STABILITY CAMPUS THAT TALKS ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THIS LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

A LITTLE BIT OF THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A SOLID WASTE PLAN.

AND WHEN IT WAS IN EXISTENCE IS QUITE OUTDATED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY UPDATES, BUT JUMPING FROM QUOTE, YOUR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN 13 TO HERE WITHOUT INTERIM.

HOW DID YOU GET THERE AND WHY BOTHERS ME AS WE'VE DISCUSSED AT OTHER MEETINGS, WE DO HAVE, UM, ABBY GOLDSMITH ON CONSULTING CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.

SHE HAS BEEN WORKING ON AN UPDATED, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLANS TO PUT THOSE ON HOLD INTO THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

UH, WE DID NOT DO ANY WORK WITH THAT IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE WERE WAITING ON THIS REPORT.

WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE 20, 40 COMPREHENSIVE TO SEE IF ANY, TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS CONSISTENT.

WELL, THE 20, 40 PLAN.

NOW I READ, I GOT REAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IT SAYS.

IT DOESN'T SAY I SAT IN ON THOSE INITIAL MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND HOW YOU GOT FROM THERE TO WHAT CAME OUT IN THE 2040 PLAN IS TO ME, MIND-BOGGLING FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, UH, IT'S DONE WITHOUT ANY REAL PLAN AND OBJECTIVE.

SO I PRESUME HERE IS THAT THE ASSUMPTION IS A MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

WELL, I SHOULD SAY HOUSEHOLD SOLID WASTE OF WHATEVER IS GOING TO GO TO MAKE REFILL OVER THE NEXT 40 YEARS, 20 YEARS, WE ONLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM AND 13, 20, 25.

YEAH.

BUT SOMEHOW IT'S MISSING THE ENTIRE WASTE STREAM FROM A COMPONENT STANDPOINT OF WHAT'S GOING TO GO WHERE AND WHY.

SO I JUST, JUST HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

I'M LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THE THING, THE MAIN THING, WE, ALL OF US IN HERE IN OUR KIDS AND EVERYBODY GOTTA START LOOKING AT, WHICH IS BEGINNING TO COME UP, YOU BE HERE, CLIMATE CONTROL, CLIMATE CONTROL.

IT'S BEEN AROUND.

WHEN I RECEIVED IT STARTED UP WHEN I WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS, WE JUST KEPT CHICKEN INTO THE SIDE.

SO WHAT OTHER IDEAS DO WE HAVE IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY HURT OUR KIDS, IT'S GOING TO HURT HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, UM, REASON I SAY US, MOST OF THE SAME HERE, ALL BOOMER GENERATIONS, THEY ALREADY FIFTIES AND SIXTIES.

SO I DON'T KNOW IT ALL.

AND I KNOW PEOPLE THAT AT RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS AND ALL OF THAT SAME THING, I, I GUESS WHEN MY, MY, MY, WHAT I'M GETTING IT IS WE CAN SIT HERE AND ARGUE ABOUT IT, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN WE THINK WITH, YOU SAID 20, 25.

THERE'S ONLY CONCERN.

WE ONLY GOT TWO AND A HALF.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT THREE YEARS, MAKE A DECISION AND IT'S COMING UP BEDS.

SO WHETHER WE WANT TO, OR NOT, WHATEVER THE PARAMETERS, ALL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE, YOU KNOW, LEARN TO AGREE, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T WANT IT, GO AHEAD AND

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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START FROM SOMEPLACE.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO IT FAST.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIT HERE AND TWIDDLE OUT GUNS AND DO WHATEVER.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT FAST BECAUSE IT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

AND COULDN'T GO IN AND PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT SEE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FRENCH GRIDS, UM, THE KOREAN, SOUTH GREEN, YOU KNOW, ALL US, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PICTURE IS THERE.

IT'S TIME TO STOP PITCHING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT, UM, THIS DEAL OR THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE OURSELVES? SO IT'S GETTING CLOSE.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HELP DO FOR COUNTY, SAY TO SOUTH CAROLINA.

SO WE CAN BE, MAYBE WE'RE TALKING HERE, BUT JUST LIKE WE'VE GOT THE AWARD THEM, RIGHT? WE DID.

WE DID THAT WITH LITTLE TO NOTHING.

WE DON'T HAVE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO STOP SHOOTING FROM THE HIP AND GETTING HERE.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO, UM, WHEN THEY COME IN AND START MAKING, TAKING, OKAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH TIME YOU GOT.

IT'S GOING TO NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER SHOOT FROM THE HIP, WHICH A GOOD ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE HARD PACS? WHAT, WHATEVER COURSE IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTS.

CAUSE WE'D ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE.

THIS IS WHAT I WANT.

THEN WHEN EPA GAME ON IT, A CATTLE LADY CONVERT.

I WAS COMING BACK FROM VIETNAM.

IT SAID YOU HAVE ALL CARS TO HAVE A CADILLAC AND MURDER.

ON THE FIRST, FIRST TIME I SEEN A CADILLAC CONVERTER WAS 19 68, 69.

THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS WERE SO HOT.

YOU ARGUED ON THE YARD, YOU GOT A BROWN SPOT.

WHEN YOU GET THROUGH ALL OF US WITH READING SESSION OF YOU COULDN'T REMEMBER IT PLAYED AROUND WITH IT.

WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND IS IT OKAY, TELEPHONE ISSUE? THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

IT'S GOING TO BE THAT KIND OF THING.

AGAIN.

WE ALL CAN THINK ABOUT THE LAP SEATBELT.

AND WE GOT TO SEE NELSON UP TOP.

NOW, WHAT'D YOU SAY BLINDS, BUT SOME OF US DON'T DO NOTHING BECAUSE WE WILL NOT USE A SEATBELT.

I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

AND I CAN S I CAN SAY THAT THE CONVERSATION OF A SUSTAINABILITY CAMPUS AND THE THOUGHT OF PROACTIVE MANAGEMENT MOVING FORWARD AS IT PERTAINS TO SOLID WASTE, AND RECYCLING HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD SO MUCH TALK ABOUT.

I THINK THIS IS JUST A PROGRESSION AND IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE TIME.

UM, BUT THESE THINGS THAT TAKE YEARS INSTEAD OF MONTHS, AND I THINK CINDY, YOU'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN ESTABLISH SOMETHING AROUND 20, 25 AND ACTUALLY GET IT IMPLEMENTED IN THE YEARS THAT FOLLOW, I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMEWHAT AGGRESSIVE.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I'M COMING TO THE BOARD TODAY TO SAY, JUST AS INFORMATION I WANT.

WE'D LIKE TO SHOW THIS TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES, MAYBE UPTAKE FOR 18, BUT THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE, HERE'S NO DECISIONS MADE ON ANY OF THESE THOUGHTS.

IT'S JUST TO SAY, THIS HAS BEEN EVALUATED AND HERE ARE MAYBE SOME POTENTIAL SITES THAT MIGHT WORK.

YEAH.

UM, WHICH IS A MOVE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION, TIMES 10,

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SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YEAH.

AND IT'S ALWAYS THE LESS THINGS YOU LOOK BACK AND WE NEVER MOVED FAST ENOUGH.

IT SEEMS THAT WAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET PAST THIS.

WE HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICES AND WE KNOW THAT.

SO YOU JUST, YOU JUST GRANTED, UH, A CONTRACT TO A WASTE MANAGEMENT.

UH, I KNOW WHEN, WITH THE THOUGHT THAT SOMEDAY, SOMEDAY, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS.

I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THAT'S WHERE THIS HAS HAD.

AND SO, UM, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH? I DON'T KNOW.

DO WE HAVE ENOUGH? ALL FIVE VOTING MEMBERS ARE SITTING HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

THEN WE SHOULD HAVE, SINCE WE HAVE ALL FIVE MEMBERS VOTING MEMBERS, WE SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION.

DO WE WANT TO SUBMIT IT TO, UM, THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE TO, UM, DO IT AT LEAST LET THEM SEE WHAT WE CAN SEE, WHAT WE HAVE.

DID YOU NOT TO SAY THOUGH, THAT YOU'RE LOVING US NO FONT, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED TO THEM? NOT WITHOUT YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

THAT'S A GREAT PICKUP ON YOUR POINT, BECAUSE THAT WENT RIGHT OVER MY HEAD.

SO YOUR NEXT MEETING IS OCTOBER 18TH.

THIS BOARD DOES NOT MEET AGAIN UNTIL THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER.

WELL, MY QUESTION IS, WHY DIDN'T WE GET IT BEFORE THAT I DIDN'T GET THIS REPORT UNTIL FRIDAY REALIZED 2025 CONTRACT DATE IS A MEANINGLESS DATE.

LIQUID.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN IMPLEMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE BEFORE THAT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MINIMUM OF PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT YEARS BEFORE YOU GET A PERMITTED FACILITY FOR ANYTHING STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

BEEN THERE THAT A WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY HAD.

MURPS HAD COMPOST SITES AND THEY DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

IT BECOMES AT LEAST A SIX TO EIGHT YEAR PROCESS.

YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY YET.

JUST YOU ARE LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU DO INVESTIGATIONS.

WHY SUDDENLY BECOMES A CRISIS THAT YOU NEED A VOTE TO PASS IT ON TODAY? I'M NOT SURE.

WELL, UM, UM, ONE THING THAT I, UM, IT, IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF WE DRAG OUR FEET AND DON'T DO NOTHING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DO SOMETHING LOGICALLY.

BUT I I'M SAYING THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M BASICALLY ASKING THE QUESTION AND THAT'S WHY I SAID WE SHOULD AT LEAST LET THE OTHER FACILITY, RIGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

THAT DOESN'T PUT US OUT TO ANY COMMITMENT.

IT'S JUST LETTING THEM SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR .

IF YOU DRAG, YOU EAT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GO 30 MILES DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU PUT IT ALL AND HE COULDN'T AT ALL.

IT'S GOING TO COME BACK WELL, IN AN ACTUALITY, WHAT WE'RE ALL, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST PASSING IT ALONG AS PROCEDURAL GOVERNMENT.

AND IT'S FOR INFORMATION, JUST LIKE IT'S HARD INFORMATION, THIS MEETING TODAY, IT'S THE FIRST STEP OF ANY PROPERTIES, BENADRYL, UH, EVALUATED FOR A POTENTIAL SIDE.

LIKE I SAID, NOTHING HAS BEEN SELECTED.

IT'S JUST TO SAY, THIS REPORT IS AVAILABLE.

YEAH.

SO I SEE YOU, THERE WOULD BE NO NEGATIVE AND US NOT ADOPTING FACILITIES.

IT'S NOT FOR VAIN.

IT'D BE FOR INFORMATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT WE DO NEED TO EVOLVE TO LIVE IT, CONTINUE ON TO PUBLIC FACILITIES DOWN THERE ON THAT OCTOBER 18TH AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP PUSHING,

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AND YOU'D BEEN INTO THE BUSINESS, UM, OF WHICH I'VE NOT.

SO, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PUSH US AS LONG, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE SINCE REALLY ONLY MAKING THE DECISION FOR SOME ONE ELSE TO GET INVOLVED, TO HELP PUSH THE PROJECT FORWARD.

ALL WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION ON NOTHING ELSE.

SO I WOULD VOTE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE TO PUSH THIS FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES BOARD.

AND I WOULD ASK EVERYONE THAT IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, YEAH, WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND SEND IT FORWARD.

I MEAN, WE'LL READ IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO READ IT TOO.

I MEAN, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, CINDY, IF EVERYBODY WANTED TO READ IT, CAN THEY VOTE BY EMAIL? I MEAN, I'D RATHER JUST DO IT TODAY, BUT IF YOU KNOW, UM, YES, YOU COULD.

UM, OBVIOUSLY I'D BE GLAD TO SEND THE REPORT TO YOU.

UM, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO OVERREACT BECAUSE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SITE SELECTED.

IT'S JUST A REPORT THAT THIS HAS BEEN EVALUATED WITH THESE CRITERIA.

WELL, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PUSH IT ALONG.

UM, SO HOW DOES EVERYONE ELSE FEEL? OR I THINK KEN CAME UP WITH A GOOD COMPROMISE OF SENDING IT OUT, GIVING EVERYONE TIME TO REVIEW, GIVING US A DEADLINE THAT BY EMAIL, OCTOBER 18TH, SOME MORE YOU RESPOND BACK TO ME FOR MONDAY ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TO GET THE INFORMATION IN TO PLAN THE BABY FOR THE 18.

THAT'S MY DEADLINE.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO PUSH THE SPORT FOR THEM TALK? AND I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT MAKING A VOTE THAT HAS ANY CREDENCE OR CREDIBILITY.

IT'S JUST SAYING, OKAY, LET'S START PUSHING THIS THING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING, NOT WANT TO JUST SEND THIS DIRECTLY TO COMMITTEE WITHOUT OUR BOARD, KNOWING THAT IT'S EXISTING AND WANTING THEM TO SEE THEM.

OKAY.

WELL I GUESS JUST THIS ONE PIECE OF PAPER WITH A MAP.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I'VE GOT ONE COPY WITH ME TODAY.

I KNOW YOU CAN'T COMMIT IT TO MEMORY.

I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY.

A LOT OF IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN PROPERTIES, BUT IT'S LIKE THE CLUSTER APPROACH ON 50 ACRES AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SHOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS.

CORRECT.

SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DISCUSSED WOULD BE DUPLICATED IN THIS WITH MAPS ON ALL, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR UNDERSTANDING, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THIS.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS CHANGED IN MY OPINION.

UM, BUT WE NEED TO PUSH IT FORWARD.

UM, SO IN SAYING THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD GET BACK TO CINDY, UM, BY FRIDAY THREE 30 ISH.

SO WE CAN GET THIS WRAPPED UP.

IF THAT GIVES EVERYBODY TIME TO, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VERBIAGE LAYER.

IT'S MOSTLY PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN IT THAT WOULD CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND.

AND I KIND OF SUGGESTED THAT WE WROTE ON IT TODAY.

I JUST THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY HAPHAZARD WITHOUT HAVING A MORE DEFINITIVE PLAN.

I MEAN, I HAD A FACILITY, IT WAS A 30 ACRE COMPOST SITE AND IT WAS ONLY FOR YARD AND LEAF WASTE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

COMPOSTING.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO WITH IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WASTE TO ENERGY.

IT COMES ABOUT MURPH'S, THERE'S JUST A LOT MORE TO IT THAN PUTTING TOGETHER A WHOLE BUNCH OF SITES AND HYPOTHETICAL'S, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE NOW, WHAT YOU WANT YOUR HYPOTHETICALS.

IF I GO DOWN, I'M ASSUMING THIS BLENDS WITH THE 2040 ACTION REPORT, FOR SOME REASON, THIS WAS TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF THE 2040 COMPANIES.

WELL, IT TALKS ABOUT A MERF IT TALKS ABOUT COMPOST SITE.

IT TALKS ABOUT TRANSFER FACILITY, COURTS, CD FACILITY.

IF YOU'VE OPERATED A MUNICIPAL FACILITY, YOU REALLY HAVE TO NOT JUMP.

THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT SITES, WHICH IS KIND OF ASIDE FROM THE ACTUAL FACILITY.

UH, AND YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF MULTIPLE SITES MISUSE THAT THE PLANNING GOING INTO

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I JUST GET VERY SKEPTICAL, BUT THAT'S JUST MY BACKGROUND AND TRAINING.

BUT IF IT JUST TALKING ABOUT AVAILABILITY OF SITES, NO, THAT'S A PLUS, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE ON THAT SITE OR MULTIPLE SITES MINT.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT STAGE AND YOU'RE YEARS AND YEARS AWAY.

SO GETTING THE FIRST STEP GOING IS, IS FINE.

IT'S JUST THAT NOTE THAT TO PRODUCE SOMETHING LIKE THIS TODAY AND ASK US TO VOTE ON IT WITHOUT REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT IT WAS.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF RIDICULOUS, BUT I GO WITH THAT.

NO, THAT'S, LET'S GO A BIT MORE JUST PROCESSING IT PROCEDURALLY SO IT CAN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AS WE GET INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THIS LOTS AND LOTS OF DISCUSSION, BUT THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF PUSH IT ALONG TO GET TO THAT POINT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IF EVERYONE WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT TO GET BACK ON A TIMELINE, UH, IN A TIMELY FASHION, I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY, CINDY, UH, TO LET THIS GO FORWARD.

WE MISS IT.

WE MISS IT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH IT.

I'M TRYING TO SAY WE GOT THE REPORT ON FRIDAY.

WE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING FOR THE EVALUATION.

WE'VE GOT REPORT.

MY DEADLINE IS MONDAY.

IF, IF WE WON'T MISS TO GO AND BE AT LEAST SHUTTLING TO PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE AS INFORMATION, NOT TO MAKE A DECISION JUST TO LET THEM KNOW THIS REPORT'S OUT THERE.

YEAH.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD RETAIN MY, MY PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD JUST PUSH THIS ALONG, UM, SINCE IT'S FOR INFORMATION ONLY AND TRY NOT TO GET THINGS MOVING.

UM, BUT IF OTHERS FEEL DIFFERENTLY, UM, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RESPOND VIA EMAIL.

SO WHY DON'T WE BY A SHOW OF HANDS, JUST IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT NOW VERSUS IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL, SO YOU, YOU WANT TO PASS IT NOW.

SO THERE WOULD BE THREE PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO PASS IT NOW.

AND THE OTHER TWO WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS EMAIL, IS THAT HOW IT WAS? SO WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT THREE TO TWO THAT WE WOULD JUST PASS IT AND LET US MOVE FORWARD.

ALSO THEY'LL SEND THE EMAIL TOMORROW.

OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

GOOD.

THERE IS INDEED A LOT TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH.

AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHEN I WAS OVERWHELMED, UH, WITH DAVE WILHELM'S DIAGRAM OR WHATEVER, WE CALLED IT, CINDY, UM, IT WAS A SPECTACULAR CONCEPT, BUT IT WAS LIKE HITTING A HOME RUN AND YOU GOT TO FIRST TOUCH FIRST BASE, SECOND BASE, THIRD BASE, AND CAN'T JUST STAND THERE AND CALL IT A HOME RUN.

AND IT'S LIKE, HOW AM I GOING TO GET ALL THIS DONE? SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK ON YOUR PLATE.

SO, BUT, UH, BUT BY MOVING IT FORWARD, AT LEAST, AT LEAST HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET SOME, SOME SORT OF, UH, OF A MOMENTUM AND, UH, IN MORE INFORMATION WILL COME IN.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTARY THAT WOULD ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THIS SUBJECT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.

SO AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, WE HAD, UM, QUESTIONS AS THEY PERTAIN TO DEFINITIONS,

[14. MSW DEFINITIONS]

SO I ASKED CINDY, IF SHE'D PLEASE PUT IT ON FOR TODAY AND ADDRESS THAT POINT OF DEFINITIONS TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITY.

AND IF, UH, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AMONGST ANYONE ON THE BOARD, WE CAN IRON IT OUT.

SO I GUESS I WOULD DUCK TO JUST HAND IT BACK TO YOU, CINDY, BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST A HALF A DOZEN THINGS THERE IS THAT FAIR.

OR I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESSES OF THE DEPARTMENT STAFF REVIEWING OUR CURRENT SOLVERS ORDINANCE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UP TO DATE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, THE THINGS THAT OUR TRAIL HAS TO ENCOUNTER WITH VINES FROM THE LEGAL STANDPOINT, MAKE SURE ALL THAT LANGUAGE.

UM, SO I THINK IT WAS MR. GREINER BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE DEFINITION OF MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE WAS NOT ADEQUATE.

SO I'VE TRIED TO PULL ONE UP AND FINE FROM EPA, SOUTH CAROLINA, D AND R WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT I WANT TO GET OUR ORDINANCE FOR BUFORD COUNTY, WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GET IN BEFORE

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I'D LIKE TO GET ALL OF THE CHANGES MADE AT ONCE.

WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.

WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE DRAFTING UP SOMETHING NOW.

SO THIS WAS JUST ONE PIECE OF THAT MORE.

OH, CINDY, YOU MADE A REFERENCE TODAY.

YOU SPOKE ABOUT GARBAGE.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I WANT US TO TALK TODAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I THINK IS GARBAGE AND WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM THINKS IS GARBAGE.

IT'S THE SAME THING CO-OP EXTERNALLY IS PURE TRACEABLE MATERIALS PREDOMINANTLY CAME FROM FOOD WASTE.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GARBAGE AND DECADES AGO, IT WAS GARBAGE COLLECTION.

IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY EXCELLENT SWEETS FOOD, NOT SOLID WASTE FROM HOUSEHOLD, UH, MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM RESIDENTS, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, THEN THERE'S ALSO TOTALED SOLID WASTE, INCLUDE C AND D LAND CLEARING.

AND THESE ARE BASICALLY STATE DEFINITIONS AS WELL AS EPA.

WELL, THIS IS APA THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT FOR THE LAST FEW MINUTES.

HERE'S WHAT SOUTH CAROLINA D THEY PASS, WHICH IS OUR STATE AGENCY.

I'M READING FROM, FROM THEIR ANNUAL REPORT.

MSW IS THE FINE THAT BY WAR SPECIFIC WASTE GENERATED FROM RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, INSTITUTIONAL AND INDUSTRIAL SOURCES, AND THIS WAS FULL OFF OF THEIR WEBSITE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S DISCREPANCIES EVEN IN THE SAME SOURCES, BUT THIS LAST ONE IS THE ONE THAT IF THERE'S COMMENT, I'D REALLY LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO PASS THAT ON TO US, THAT IF WE WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES IN WHAT WE CONSIDER MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE, CAN I ASK WHERE THIS IS THE POINT YOU SAY IN BUFORD COUNTY, THIS CAME FROM OUR ORDINANCE 62.

WHEN OF WHAT VINTAGE, I'M SORRY, OF WHAT VINTAGE RECENT OR, UH, PULLED IT UP THE INTERNET LAST WEEK.

SO MAYBE WE HAVE, WE AS A DEPARTMENT ARE WORKING ON NOW, NOTHING CAN BE CHANGED WITHOUT COUNSELOR.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

IF WE WANT TO MAKE, OR IF WE WANT TO SUGGEST ANY CHANGES I'D LIKE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO MAYBE GIVE ME THAT COMMENT OF THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH OUR LEGAL STAFF AND THEN IT'S PRESENTED TO COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL, AM I WRONG IN SAYING THERE WERE OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE THOUGH? A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, YES.

OKAY.

IT'S TALKING SOLID WASTE DEFINED BY THE STATE.

THAT INCLUDES A SLUDGES CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION DEBRIS LAND CLEARING DEBRIS IS NOT MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE, UH, TIRES, UH, WHERE I CONFIRM WE HAD SHREDDING OF AUTOS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT'S IN QUOTE, TOTAL WASTE, AS OPPOSED TO MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE, MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, AND IT HAS SUBCATEGORIES.

UH, SO THIS CINDY, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? UH, IF YOU COULD SEND US BUFORD COUNTY HAS ON THE SCREEN, THE DEFINITIONS OF ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS I SENT YOU CHAPTER SIX.

PERFECT, PERFECT.

WE'VE ALREADY MADE A LOT OF EDITS, POTENTIAL EDWARDS AS THE DEPARTMENT STYLE.

OKAY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT ANY OF US SEE THE CRIME AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE COPY EACH OTHER SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN WE CAN NAIL DOWN SOME VOCABULARY.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF STARTED WITH LOOKING AT OUR CHARTS AND WITH NOBODY'S MSW, MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE, THAT THE CONVENIENCE IS WHAT YOU PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL.

YOU PROHIBIT INDUSTRIAL.

SO QUOTE, IT'S NOT REALLY MSW THAT YOU RECEIVING AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS, WHY REPORT IS MSW TO RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE.

THAT THAT'S WHERE I STARTED.

AND THEN I WAS LOOKING AT WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ENTERPRISE FUND, YOU'D BEGAN DEFINING HOUSEHOLDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO SOME OF THESE IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE PROJECTS

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I KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT WOULD BE A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OR VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE EXERCISE TO GO THROUGH.

SO SOMETHING THAT IT WOULD BE ALMOST REQUIRED ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF EACH PROBABLY DISAGREED BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF READING IT.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE, WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT LAST SENTENCE, I GUESS IF WE'RE GOING TO GET IT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS LATER, BUT IT SAYS ANY WAY SPECIFICALLY REGULATED ON YOUR OTHER STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS.