[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          PLEASE. JANE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE . 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE RIGHT BY THE UNITED STATES. WHAT DO WE JUST STAND? WELL, A NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          [3. FOIA – PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED,
POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH
CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]
THANK YOU. ALL WE KNOW IS YOU POSTED. CAN PROCEED WITH THE APPROVAL 
          [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – August 2, 2021]
MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS QUESTION MARTHA CASES TO THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 21ST. DURING AN EMOTIONAL FOUR MINUTES. 
          ONCE AGAIN ALL THOSE THEY RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. I LEFT. 
          [5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
WE HAVE ONE EXTENSION AND WE ARE AT WAR HERE. ALL RIGHT. 
          APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> I'M AWARE THAT A COUPLE OF APPLICANTS HAVE PULLED THEIR REZONING REQUEST AND SO WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THOSE THIS EVENING BUT THEY WILL MAY BE 
          BEING DEFERRED TO ACCEPTED MEETING. >> NOT SURE IF THAT'LL BE NEXT MONTH OR SUBSEQUENTLY MONTH, MAYBE NEXT MONTH. THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 10. 
          ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUESTS FOR TWO ACRES ON 27 0 6 TRASK PARKWAY FROM T TO WORLD NEIGHBORHOOD SEAPORT MANY CENTER. AND NUMBER ELEVEN ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REZONING REQUESTS FOR SIX POINT TO SIX ACRES 1 8 6 CHEROKEE FARMS ROAD FROM KEY TO RURAL TO T4 NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH CENTER WITH ALWAYS GO I HAVE APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATION AND REMOVE THOSE TWO MAJOR ANY OBJECTIONS? NO. 
          ALL RIGHT. OK. THOSE THEN ARE WILL THE 
          [6. CITIZEN COMMENTS]
REMAINING AGENDA WILL BE MAINTAINED. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA. I'VE GOT SOME HANDOUTS WERE JUST FORWARDED TO ME ABOUT PARSONS MADE COMMENTS. I SEE MOST OF THE COMMENTS ARE RELATING TO THE ISSUES THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU'RE STILL HERE ONLY I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN DO THAT. I WILL DO IT THIS WAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO ON RECORD MAKING A COMMENT ON ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT'S BEEN REMOVED, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          OKATIE DO THAT. SO WE'LL DO THAT DURING A GENERAL COMMENTS TO BE MADE. 
          BY CITIZEN NOT AGENDA ITEMS SO I'M GOING TO CALL YOUR NAME AND IF YOU WOULD COME UP DURING THE SPEAKER INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SHARE THIS WITH US HERE. THREE MINUTES. 
          I WANT TO READ THIS FOR PUBLIC SOMETHING. AND REMEMBER THE PUBLIC IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL LIMIT COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING PROTOCOL . JUST THE CHAIRMAN AND SPEAKING AVOID DISRESPECT THE ACCOUNTS OF THIS COUNCIL TO A COMMISSION AND ANY OTHER PERSONALITIES YOU CAN FIND YOURSELVES TO QUESTIONS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION. BE MINDFUL, RESPECTFUL ALL THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT OR OTHERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION. 
          OK. TONY AND KRISTA, TELL ALL YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS THREE MINUTES 
          PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING HAVE 
          THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU CAME HERE. >> I'M HERE TONIGHT TO INFORM 
          YOU THAT THE THOSE YOU FIND CAN'T QUITE. >> I'M HERE TO INFORM YOU THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IN REGARD TO THE APPLICATION THAT I MADE BEFORE YOU ON JUNE 6, 2021 WAS NOT FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THEY DID NOT PROCEED ACCORDING TO THE LAW ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT. 
          >> NOW I WROTE A LETTER OR AN EMAIL TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL. AS OF YESTERDAY I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE AND THAT 
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WOULD DEAL WITH MY ISSUE OR THOUGHT THE DEAL WITH MY ISSUE BECAUSE IT WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND SO I COULDN'T SPEAK. 
          >> SO I WROTE AN EMAIL AND I SAID AS FOLLOWS I AM EMAILING REGARDING AN URGENT MATTER IS IN REGARD TO THE VINCENT PLANTATION I AM THE APPLICANT OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT FOR A 
          TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAVING FIRST RECEIVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THESE RIGHTS ARE EQUAL TO THOSE OF THE LAND PURCHASE OR 
          PROPERTY OF DENTON PLANTATION. >> I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE REASON THAT THEY MET YESTERDAY WAS BECAUSE OF A LAND PURCHASE. FURTHERMORE, THERE IS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT PAID OUT THE REAL CRITICAL LAST PROGRAM OF 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS. YOU'LL BE WELL ADVISED THAT ANY SUCH SALE CORRECTLY RECOGNIZED THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CONSERVATION. HE'S BEEN THERE ESPECIALLY TRUE IF FEDERAL MONEY FROM NOLA IS INVOLVED FROM THE KELP PROGRAM . 
          >> I'VE MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT BENTON PLANTATION 
          WAS NUMBER TWO IN THE NATION RATED FOR THE GUARD. >> THE KELP I CALLED I CALLED NOVA AND FOUND OUT THAT IN FACT AN APPLICATION WAS IN FACT RECEIVED. 
          NOW I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT I WROTE A LETTER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND I SAID IT IS SURPRISING THAT I FIND MYSELF EQUAL TO REQUIRED TO INFORM YOU ABOUT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S LAW GOVERNING THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND THE BEAUFORT 
          COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODE . >> I HAVE ENUMERATED ABOVE CERTAIN SECTIONS FOR YOUR REFERRAL SEVEN POINT FORTY EIGHT SEVEN POINT FOUR NINE DEALING WITH THE POWERS DUTIES RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL SAYS INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IN THOSE TWO SECTION AS PROMPTLY AS POSSIBLE IN CONSIDERATION 
          OF THE INTERESTS OF THE APPLICANT I AM THE APPLICANT. >> I RECEIVED ZERO. 
          WHAT I GOT WAS NO I RECEIVED NO ANSWER NO YES NO NO NOTHING. I GOT ZERO FROM THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT NOW WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THIS THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS IN ERROR WITH RESPECT TO ITS OWN LAW. IF THIS COULD HAPPEN TO THE FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF. WHETHER COUNTY COUNCIL BREAKS ITS OWN LAW IS VERY SERIOUS BECAUSE WHEN IT DOES IS SAYING THAT DO NOT DO WHAT WE DO DO AS WE SAY THAT NEVER WORKS. IF SOMEONE SAYS TO YOU I DON'T WANT TO BUILD A RIVER BUFFER SETBACK WITH NATURAL VEGETATION ,PUT ROSES THERE THAT HAPPENED TO ME AT BERKELEY ALL THE DEVELOPERS SAY THAT THE MYTHICAL WOMEN HAD LONG STOCKINGS AND DIDN'T WANT TO 
          PAY OTHERS THEIR LEGS AFFECTED BY THE RIVER BUFFER. >> I WAS TOLD THAT BY A DEVELOPER IF A COUNTY DEVELOPER WANTED TO BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER AND PUT PARKING IN AND DIDN'T WANT TO MEET THE PARKING STANDARDS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? THE COUNTY COUNCIL DOESN'T FAVOR ITS OWN LAWS. HOW DO WE EXPECT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PAY WHAT YOU CANNOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO DO? WOULD YOU SAY IF YOU DO NOT DO WHAT YOU DO NOW? NOW I WOULD TELL YOU THIS THAT IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS SECTION IT SAYS THAT IF YOU CHANGE THE CONSERVATION YOU NEED TO GO TO A COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION IF YOU CHANGE THE COCKPIT, THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, YOU NEED 
          TO GO TO A COURT OF CONGRESS. >> OF COMPETENT NEAREST ENERGY. MR. STONE THREE MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ONLY SAY THIS TO THE. THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY REVIEW BEAUFORT COUNTY OR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS READ WAS WAS IGNORED, IGNORED BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL. IF IT HAPPENS THROUGH THE PLANNING FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. THIS IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS STUFF AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE WELL ADVISED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ONCE AGAIN INFORM COUNTY COUNCIL THAT A DECISION WAS MADE BY THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION AND FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE YOU OR MAY NOT HEAR ANYTHING IN REGARD TO FUTURE MEMBERS OF THE CONFERENCE A PLAN OR CONFERENCE A PLAN UNTIL THIS IS CURRENTLY DEALT WITH PROPERLY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, CONNIE. MR. MERCHANT, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS? THE STATE HAS ITS OWN AGENDA AN FOR THE 13 ITS ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER 13TH. YES, THEY HAD A NICE COMMUNITY MEETING YESTERDAY. IT WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WAS NOT INVITED TO SPEAK GETS 
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          . >> IT'S. YES. 
          YES. OUT SOME ASSISTANT HEALTH MINISTER FOR DEVELOPMENT 
          RECREATION. >> IT WAS NOT ON THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY BECAUSE THE MEETING WAS HELD ON TUESDAY. YESTERDAY WAS A GENDER REVIEW FOR COUNTY COUNCIL AND THERE WAS. IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA AND IT WAS FORWARDED FROM THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE WHICH BEGAN ON TUESDAY TO NEXT MONDAY'S 
          COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IS THE 13TH. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. I HAVE A COMMENT HERE FROM 
          DEBRA HOLBROOK REGARDING CHEROKEE FARMS ROAD REZONING. >> YES, I WAS JUST THIRTY NINE JAMES HABERSHAM AND THERE'S BEEN A ZONING BOARD THAT WE DRIVE BACK AND FORTH PASSED FOR A MONTH AND I WAS CALLED NO ONE ASKED WHAT THAT WAS FOR A LOOK LIKE I'M THE ONLY PERSON FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WHEN THEY FILED FOR A ZONING REZONING REQUEST OF THE SIX POINT IN 
          THEIR WHAT IS IT TO BE ZONED FOR? >> THEY'RE ASKING FOR A ZONING FROM T TO RURAL WHICH IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS TEETH FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER THE DEVELOPER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
          BY THE OWNER OF THE APPLICANT IS RALPH. >> THEY ARE THE CALLS TO ALL THIS INFORMATION SHOULD BE ON THE ON THE Z THERE SHOULD BE ON THAT POST THAT I THINK IT'S 
          RIGHT. >> AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ROAD THERE A DIRT ROAD THAT GOES BACK BY THE PROPERTY. I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT DOES IT MEAN SOMETHING FOR YOU 
          KNOW? >> WELL, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WOULD SAY THE CLASSIFICATION ALLOWS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND IT COULD IT COULD TAKE FORM SEVERAL DIFFERENT FASHIONS RETAIL OUTRELET, COMMERCIAL OUTLET. SO UNTIL UNTIL THERE IS A FILE WILL BE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AND WE'LL HEAR THAT IF HE WOULD BE INTERESTED. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU. WE'LL BE BACK ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH. 
          THANK THANK YOU. OK. JESSE WHITE. 
          JESSE, YOU HERE LOVE YOUR. >> NO, IT IS ON THE AGENDA. YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. IT WILL BE. SO IF YOU WOULD HOLD YOUR COMMENTS TILL THEN I'M STILL DOING TO WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON REZONING RELATED TO THAT PROPERTY FROM AWAY. I THINK THAT'S IN THERE. RIGHT. 
          YOU DO THINK MR. MUSIC CAN WE HOLD OUT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT ISSUE? THIS IS IT WAS OPEN MEDICINE. YES. I CALL IT. 
          AND SO IS THIS ONE BY THOMAS MIKE THOMAS. THOMAS MIKE SENIOR. 
          YES. OK, WE'LL HEAR IT. >> WE'LL HEAR THAT ALSO WHEN THE ISSUE IS DISCUSSED AND IT IS WE'LL BE ON THE AGENDA. I THINK IT'S A THREE ITEMS FROM NOW. ALL RIGHT. SO YOUR COMMENTS WHAT WE'VE TAKEN DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          OK, ANYBODY WHO DIDN'T FILE A COMMENT REQUEST WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT REGARDING 
          ISSUES NOT ON THE AGENDA. >> ANYTHING ON THE ONLINE PRESSES OR ANYTHING ONLINE 
          MAYBE NOTHING. >> OK, ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEM FOR THE NIGHT IS THE 
          [7. 2040 BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN (THIS INCLUDES THE
BEAUFORT COUNTY ATLAS AND THE 2040 ACTION PLAN PLAYBOOK)]
20 40 BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH INCLUDES THE COUNTY ATLAS AND THE 20 40 ACTION PLAN WILL PLAYBOOK THEN A YEAR AND A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF IN THE MAKING. WE'RE ROUNDING THE FINAL STRETCH HOPEFULLY HERE WITH THIS PLEASE JUST FROM TO START THE NEXT ONE GET THEY'LL SAY THAT WOULD COME IN. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKS TO BRING BEFORE YOU THE LATEST DRAFT OF THE BEFORE COUNTY 2014 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GO TO 
          THE NEXT SLIDE. >> I GUESS BEFORE WE GET STARTED I JUST WANTED TO. 
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WE FOUND SOME OF THESE QUOTES HERE ON THE EPA WEB SITE. AND I THINK THAT THEY SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CONFERENCE A PLAN AND I THINK IT REALLY KIND OF GIVES SOME 
          PERSPECTIVE TO THE DECISION YOU'RE MAKING TODAY. >> YEAH. 
          >> THERE WE GO. AND I THOUGHT THAT THESE ARE REALLY GOOD. 
          KIND OF GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF WHY THE CONFERENCE A PLAN IS IMPORTANT AND REALLY WE SEE IT AS KIND OF A VERY DETAILED VISION STATEMENT FOR THE COUNTY . 
          I THINK WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE ALL LOVE BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THAT THERE ARE ASPECTS OF LIVING HERE AND THINGS THAT WE VALUE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT FEELING. BUT THINGS ARE DETERMINED AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT FROM WHAT WE SEE AS POTENTIAL THREATS TO OUR 
          QUALITY OF LIFE HERE. >> THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AND IT PROVIDES A IT'S A IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT REALLY GIVES GUIDANCE FOR DECISION MAKING BUT ALSO HAS VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACTIONS. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME QUOTES A CONFERENCE PLANT IS A FOUNDATIONAL POLICY DOCUMENT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, YOU 
          KNOW. >> SO IT KIND OF TELLS US HOW TO ACT. 
          IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR COORDINATING LOCAL DECISION MAKING. 
          >> THE LOCAL CONFERENCE AND PLANNING PROCESS GIVES THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO 
          STEP BACK AND SEE THE BIG PICTURE. >> AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A 
          GOOD ONE. >> YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY START WITH VERY BROAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE VALUE FOR THE COUNTY AND WHAT WE SEE AS THE GREATEST SHAPE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING. THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. IT'S THE LEGAL FOUNDATION THAT LEGITIMIZES LOCAL DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. SO WE HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE AND IT'S VERY DETAILED THAT TELLS WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY. 
          BUT THAT ZONING ORDINANCE IN AND OF ITSELF WITHOUT THE BACKING OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ON VERY SHAKY LEGAL GROUNDS AND ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          AND I'LL SAY THAT'S SOMETHING FOR OUR STATE IS THAT WE PUT A LOT OF VALUE IN THE CORPORATE PLAN AND REQUIRE IT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO HAVE ZONING ORDINANCES IN WHEN YOU HAVE AN UP TO DATE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN YOU'D HAVE MORE CERTAINTY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO DEVELOP AND ALSO FOR LOCAL OFFICIALS AND HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS AND THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, HAVING A GOOD CONFERENCE, A PLAN AND A GOOD PROCESS MEANS AN INFORMED 
          CONSTITUENTS. >> SO I THINK THAT I REALLY LIKED THAT SUMMARY BECAUSE I THINK IT KIND OF REMINDS US OF , YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE WEIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE THE DECISION WE'RE MAKING TODAY IN REVISING OUR CONFERENCE PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STATE REQUIRES IS THAT EVERY 10 YEARS WE'RE REQUIRED TO REVISIT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE DO KIND OF AN EVALUATION OF WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO WE'RE AT ONE OF THOSE 10 YEAR MILESTONES WE GO TO NEXT SLIDE AND STARTING OUT. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT A LOT HEAVY LIFTING HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY. 
          YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO OUR 97 CONFERENCE OF PLANNED A LOT OF IMPORTANT DECISIONS WERE MADE AND POLICIES SET FORTH WHEN WE DID THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN REGIONAL PLANS, YOU KNOW. AND SO THE IDEA HERE IS NOT TO REWRITE THE PLAN BUT TO REALLY BUILD ON THOSE THINGS AND DECIDE WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IN INTRODUCING, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT NEW ISSUES, WE FACE ANOTHER. SO THAT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU'RE READING THE DOCUMENTS TO KEEP IN MIND. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE REALLY FELT THIS TIME AND I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE WE HIRED DESIGN WORKSHOP AND THEY WERE OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ASSISTED US AND GUIDED US THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          >> BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO HAVE A PLAN THAT WAS EASY TO READ AND EASY TO. 
          THAT WAS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD ARTICULATING THE IDEAS IN THE PLAN. 
          ONE I THINK THE DOWNFALL AS IT HAPPENS WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IS THAT ONCE YOU ADD ALL THE DATA SOMETIMES IT GETS MINED NOTHING. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF NUMBERS AND FIGURES AND MAPS AND WHEN YOU KNOW WHEN YOU FINALLY GET TO THE POLICIES, YOU KNOW IT JUST MAKES FOR A VERY DIFFICULT READ. SO WHAT WE DID IN THIS CASE IS THAT THE BACKGROUND PORTION OF THE PLAN IS IN A DOCUMENT CALLED THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ATLAS AND THE GOAL THERE WAS TO TAKE ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, POPULATION AND LAND USE NATURAL RESOURCE, ALL THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION PUT IT IN THAT WOULD SAY VERY VISUALLY FRIENDLY FORMAT WITH LOTS OF CHARTS AND PHOTOGRAPHS, YOU KNOW, TO TO I GUESS MAKE THE 
          INFORMATION POP OUT AND BE EASY TO READ. >> SO ONCE YOU GET TO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT 20 40 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE ONE SHOWN IN THE CENTER THERE IT REALLY GOES REALLY CUTS TO THE CHASE IN THAT EACH CHAPTER YOU'VE GOT YOU HAVE A CONTEXT WHERE YOU PROVIDE THIS IS YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT 
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          THEREFORE YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> AND SO IT IMMEDIATELY LAUNCHES INTO THE STRATEGIES AND THE ACTION ITEMS FOR EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAKES FOR A MUCH EASIER TO READ DOCUMENT WHEN YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT COUNTY IS DOING ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES. THAT'S A MUCH EASIER YOU NO AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST AND MOST OF THE ESSENTIALS THERE IN IT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE WHERE ARE THE WETLANDS, WHERE ARE THE SOILS THAT THAT LIMIT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD GO TO THE ATLAS AND THAT INFORMATION IS THERE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY WITHIN THE PLAN THERE ARE STRATEGIES AND THEN OUR ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS, YOU KNOW, STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT COULD BE CHECKED OFF ,YOU KNOW, A BOX SAYING WE'VE DONE THIS THING THAT WAS IN THE PLAN IT RECOMMENDED WE DO THIS. WE DID IT. 
          AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE IN WHAT WE CALL THE ACTION PLAYBOOK. 
          WE'VE TAKEN ALL THE ACTION ITEMS. WE'VE CATEGORIZED THEM BY SHORT ,MEDIUM AND LONG RANGE WITHIN A 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME. WHO IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT THEM ,YOU KNOW. AND SO ALL OF THAT I THINK WILL ALLOW FOR MUCH BETTER TRACKING AND YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO ASSESS WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN. 
          IN ADDITION IN THAT ACTION PLAYBOOK IS A 10 YEAR CFP. SO NOT ONLY ARE THE THIS THE ACTION ITEMS BUT THE ACTUAL PROJECTS. AND SO WE WORKED WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO DEVELOP A TENURE CFP THAT IS PART OF THIS CFP IS ON CAPITAL 
          IMPROVEMENTS IS FOR THE AUDIENCE. >> SO THAT'S JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW. YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. ANOTHER THING YOU KNOW WHEN I SAID REALLY BUILDS OFF, I WOULD SAY SOME SOLID PLANNING FOUNDATION BUT WE REALLY IDENTIFIED I WOULD SAY THREE EMPHASIS EMPHASIS IS IN THIS PLAN. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS RESILIENCE. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN A LOT CLOSER LOOK AT AND THAT IS THE IMPACTS OF FLOODING ESPECIALLY EXACERBATE BY SEA LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE BEING ABLE TO ASSESS THE RISKS AND DECIDE WHAT ARE NECESSARY STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE AS A LOCAL COMMUNITY TO BE MORE RESILIENT. 
          THE OTHER THING THIS PLAN DOES AND THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TOUCHED ON IN PREVIOUS EFFORTS BUT IT REALLY LOOKS AT EQUITY. YOU KNOW, IS THIS PLAN EQUITABLE AND BEAUFORT COUNTY IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY ONLY. 
          THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO IS LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE MORE EQUITY IN SERVICES IN QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN DECISION MAKING. 
          AND THEN ALSO YOU NEED TO PLACE THIS REALLY BUILDING OFF OF OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH EMPHASIZES NOT ONLY WHERE WE DEVELOP WHAT IS IT QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN OR WE CREATING TRUE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE PLACES THAT WE WANT TO LIVE OR WE YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING WELL THIS IS WHERE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOES HERE. AND IT DOESN'T REALLY CREATE THAT SENSE OF PLACE. THIS PLAN REALLY EMPHASIZES THAT ALL OF THOSE POLICIES ARE 
          AIMED AT BUILDING QUALITY COMMUNITIES. >> SO THESE THREE THEMES ARE WOVEN INTO THE PLAN. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE STRATEGIES YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE E IN FRONT OF IT OR A LITTLE R THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          IT'S KIND OF TYING IT BACK TO ONE OF THOSE THREE CONCEPTS YOU CAN GO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE CAN MOVE ON. SEE, I JUST WANT TO REAL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE WE HAD A REAL CHALLENGE WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED BECAUSE OF THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          >> YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR KICKOFF WORKSHOPS MARCH 4TH AND 5TH 2020 AND IF YOU'RE AWARE THAT WAS ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF PRIOR TO EVERYTHING SHUTTING DOWN. 
          WE HAD A REALLY GOOD KICKOFF WORKSHOP AND GOOD ATTENDANCE. WE HAD STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT BUT THEN EVERYTHING WAS PUT ON HOLD. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT TO A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THAT ATLAS IN GATHERING THE EXISTING INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AND THEN BY THE END OF SUMMER OF 2020. NEXT SLIDE WE HAD TWO VIRTUAL WORKSHOPS REALIZING THIS IS NOT QUITE THE SAME AS IN-PERSON BUT IT WAS A WAY TO PROVIDE SOME PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE PROCESS DURING THIS REALLY DIFFICULT TIME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC. WE HAD ONE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION AND THE GREEN PRINT PLAN WHICH IS A PLAN THAT INFORMS ARE OF RURAL CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION PRIORITIES. AND THEN NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE RELATED TO GROWTH 
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MANAGEMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT FROM THOSE SURVEYS BUT ONLINE ENGAGEMENT IS NOT NECESSARILY YOU'RE REACHING THE SAME POPULATION AS WHEN YOU'RE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID AND THIS WAS VERY DIFFICULT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THREE SUCCESSFUL SOCIALLY DISTANCED WORKSHOPS IN OCTOBER 20 20. THAT FIRST PICTURE JUST KIND OF CRACKS ME UP THAT THEY CAN'T GET MUCH MORE SOCIALLY DISTANCE THAN THAT. 
          BUT WE DID HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT AND THEY WERE BASICALLY SET UP AS IS OPEN HOUSE. 
          SO WE'VE NEVER MET A LARGE GROUP PEOPLE ONE TIME BUT WE DID WE DID GET SOME PRETTY GOOD 
          ATTENDANCE AT THOSE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. >> WE PRESENTED THE VERY FIRST 
          DRAFT AS YOU REMEMBER IN APRIL 15. >> WE RELEASED THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS PLAN AND OPENED IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AND WE LEARNED SHORTLY INTO THAT PROCESS THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO GO BACK OUT INTO THE COMMUNITIES WE HAD ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING AT ABOUT BOULDER RECREATION CENTER WHICH WE HAD ON ON JUNE 7. 
          BUT WE FOLLOWED UP WITH TWO IN-PERSON WORKSHOPS ONE TO KURT WELLS ON JUNE 8TH AND ONE AT THE ST. HELENA PUBLIC LIBRARY ON JUNE 10TH. IN ADDITION, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ST. HELENA ISLAND LADIES SILENCE COUNCILMAN GLOVER AND COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE HELD A JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES AND ALSO WITH THE STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND HAD A VERY LARGE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT THE FOCUS OF THAT WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO REALLY THROUGH THAT ENGAGEMENT AND THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE RECEIVED VERY GOOD INPUT AND A LOT OF COMMENTS WHICH AS YOU'RE AWARE AT THE AUGUST 2ND MEETING WE PRESENTED BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          IT WAS A GIANT SPREADSHEET WITH EACH OF THE COMMENTS AND IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. SO SINCE THAT AUGUST AUGUST 2ND MEETING WE SCRAMBLED HIS STAFF 
          TO DO DIRECT THE CONSULT TO MAKE THE EDITS. >> WE GOT THAT BACK FINALIZED ON AUGUST 30 FIRST AND WE RELEASED THIS DRAFT TO THE PUBLIC AND AND ALSO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO WITH THAT I WAS JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH. 
          I WOULD SAY IT MAYBE A 20000 FOOT OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, NOTHING TOO DETAILED FOR IT. I MEAN ANYTHING FOR THE MOST 
          GENERAL TO THE MOST DETAILED IS PERFECTLY FINE. >> WHAT I WANTED TO DO REAL QUICK IS KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THIS IS ARRANGED. GIVEN THE NEXT SLIDE EACH OF THE CHAPTERS YOU KNOW YOU'LL SEE US SPREAD LIKE THIS FOR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE HAVE KIND OF A GENERAL STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, VALUE STATEMENT ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES PROTECTION THEN WE HAVE CORE VALUES AND THAT REALLY KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THE WHAT IT IS WE VALUE OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT KIND OF GUIDES OR DECISION 
          MAKING. >> IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE WE HAVE CONTEXT. 
          SO THIS IS BASICALLY SUMMING UP THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE ATLAS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF TAKING STOCK OF OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES, ASSESSING WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN AND KIND OF SUMMARIZING THEREFORE WE RECOMMEND THESE STEPS. SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE YOU GET INTO THE HEART OF THE RECOMMENDER ASIANS. SO STRATEGIES ARE THESE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE GREEN AND THEN THOSE ARE FOLLOWED UP BY ACTION ITEMS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PLAN DOES THAT WE DIDN'T DO BEFORE WHICH I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IS WE MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A POLICY STATEMENT WHICH IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE FOR A ROAD NETWORK WE RECOMMEND A LEVEL OF SERVICE D.C. FOR ALL FUTURE COUNTY ROADWAYS THAT IS MORE A STATEMENT THAT GUIDES HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU SAY OK, TODAY I KNOW WE HAVE MADE AN IMPROVEMENT THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          WE CHECK THAT BOX AND WE FIND IT NEXT. THAT'S A STRATEGY THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GUIDES HOW WE THINK AN ACTION ITEM IS SOMETHING THAT IS YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD THAT'S ACTUALLY ACTIONABLE AND SOMETHING YOU COULD SAY WELL I YOU INITIATING THIS ACTION AND WE'VE COMPLETED IT. CHECK THE BOX. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE ONGOING BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE. 
          SO THAT DISTINCTION IS DRAWN AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY HELPS BECAUSE PLANS DO SEVERAL THINGS. YOU KNOW, HAVING A STRATEGY IS IMPORTANT. 
          YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES WHEN WE'RE WRITING A GRANT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE VALUE THESE THINGS AND THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IS EVALUATING THE GRANTS THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. IT'S IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN . 
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AN ACTION ITEM IS MORE KIND OF SAYING WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THIS PROJECT OVER HERE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THIS NEW POLICY OVER HERE. BUT THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT YOU KNOW, VITAL ELEMENTS PLAN. SO JUST REAL QUICK OVERVIEW NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING OUR NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION STRENGTHEN YOU KNOW, ASSESSING WHETHER THEY'RE WORKING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN THIS CHAPTER IS THAT WE INCORPORATE THE GREEN PRINT PLAN RECOGNIZING THAT PRESERVATION IS ONE STEP IN PRESERVING THE ENVIRONMENT BUT HAVING GOOD RESOURCE PROTECTION STANDARDS AND OUR ORDINANCES IS ANOTHER THING WE CAN DO WITH IT KIND OF HAS A CONTINUUM OF PRESERVATION DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT FOR RESOURCE IT IS TO PROTECT. 
          BUT THIS ALSO EMPHASIZES A LOT MORE THAN OUR LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THIS WHOLE IDEA OF RESILIENCE TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE AND THIS IS IMPORTANT NOT ONLY BECAUSE THIS IS A CHALLENGE IF THE COUNTY IS FACING THAT ALSO BECAUSE THE STATE IS NOW REQUIRING THIS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REQUIRE US TO ADDRESS RESILIENCY. 
          AND SO YOU KNOW, OUR CONFERENCE A PLAN EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A NEW POLICY BY THE STATE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE LATEST STATE GUIDELINES. SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SECTION. WE ADDRESS IT ELSEWHERE ESPECIALLY IN COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND WHERE WE SITE FUTURE FACILITIES SOME OF THE FIGURE. THE NEXT SLIDE WELL THEN NEXT CHAPTERS CULTURE OF CULTURAL RESOURCE IS ONCE AGAIN BUILDING ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WE HAVE GOOD POLICIES IN PLACE TO PROTECT HISTORIC RESOURCES, ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES. WE REALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING OUR RURAL AREAS AND IN THE RURAL WAY OF LIFE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PLANNING EFFORTS RECOGNIZING DISTINCTIVENESS OF THE CALLING EACH COMMUNITY ACKNOWLEDGING THE IMPORTANCE OF FARMING, FISHING AND FORESTRY TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY A WAY OF LIFE AND THEN ALSO FROM THE INPUT WE GOT THE PLAN NOW PLACES GREATER EMPHASIS ON PROTECTING AND 
          PRESERVING HISTORIC CEMETERIES THAT HAS COME UP. >> YOU KNOW, SEVERAL TIMES, YOU KNOW, SINCE JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. BUT IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE. 
          LOOKING AT THE ISSUE OF HEIRS PROPERTY, HOW DO WE PROVIDE MORE SUPPORT TO IT TO FAMILIES WITH HEIRS PROPERTY AND THEN ALSO ADDRESSING THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF MINING RESOURCE EXTRACTION ON THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES? THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAME THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT THIS SUMMER AT OUR MEETINGS AND THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE ECONOMY. YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT ARE OUR EXISTING ECONOMIC DRIVERS AND REALLY EMPHASIZING, YOU KNOW, BUILDING ON THOSE STRENGTHS ESPECIALLY THE MILITARY AND TOURISM PROMOTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SKILLED WORKFORCE, PROVIDING INCENTIVES FOR BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, RETENTION AND AN EXPANSION AND THEN CALLING FOR CREATING IT'S STRENGTHENING REGIONAL AND STATE PARTNERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AS A FOUNDATION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY. SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND THIS IS SOMETHING PROVIDED BY THE PORTRAYAL SOUND FOUNDATION IS REALLY THAT OUR OUR NATURAL BEAUTY OF OUR COUNTY IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ECONOMIC DRIVERS INTO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU KNOW, IN THAT IF WE DEVELOP IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'RE REALLY COMPROMISING THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS THEY COULD AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM FROM ELSEWHERE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING BROWNFIELD SITES AND CLEANUP 
          PROGRAMS. >> WE HAVE SOME THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT CAN BE A BARRIER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE LIVING ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR HOME BUSINESS AND COTTAGE INDUSTRY PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY BUT STILL PROTECTING THAT YOU KNOW THE QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUALLY REVISIT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO USE OUR OWN PROPERTIES FOR FOR SMALL BUSINESSES 
          MOBILITY. >> THIS IS OUR NEW TERM FOR TRANSPORTATION SECTION THAT REALLY THE EMPHASIS ON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS IS THAT WE ARE NOW AT AN MPO. WE HAVE LATS WHICH IS A ONCE WE REACH A CERTAIN POPULATION THRESHOLD. WE NOW ARE DIRECT RECIPIENTS OF FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS AND SO LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS ADMINISTERS THAT FOR US AND SO WE HAVE STRUCTURES IN PLACE AND A PLANNING PROCESS. SO OUR PLAN REALLY RECOGNIZED IS YOU KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT COOPERATION THAT WE PUT SOME EMPHASIS MORE EMPHASIS ON, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE STREETS AND PROMOTING A MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. 
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HISTORICALLY WE HAVE BEEN VERY DEPENDENT ON PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC TO GET AROUND THE COUNTY. AND SO TAKING WHATEVER NECESSARY STEPS TO PROVIDE MORE TRANSPORTATION CHOICES FOR FOUR RESIDENTS PROMOTING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE RATHER THAN BUILDING NEW ROADS, HOW MUCH CAN WE MAXIMIZE THE CAPACITY OF OUR EXISTING ROADS THROUGH ACCESS MANAGEMENT INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS PROVIDING A NETWORK OF STREETS? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING LADIES ISLAND PROMOTING WALKING AND CYCLING AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL BE ADDRESSING AFTER THIS SUPPORTING EXPANSION OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND LOOKING AT ALSO WATER TRANSPORTATION WHICH IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT HAS GREAT POTENTIAL AND HAS A LOT OF LOGISTICAL ISSUES THAT CERTAINLY AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP US IN GETTING AROUND OUR COUNTY HOUSING YOU KNOW, PROMOTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AREAS WITH SUPPORT, SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SERVICES, EMPLOYMENT. 
          >> YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS A POLICY OF WHERE WE'RE DIRECTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EMPHASIZING REDUCING THOSE BARRIERS, SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AS WELL. WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS TO DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING? ARE THEY AND ARE ZONING ORDINANCE OR ARE THEY AND OTHER POLICIES THAT WE HAVE IN BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, SAID THAT WE COULD PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN REALLY CALLING FOR THE COUNTY TO BE PROACTIVE AND THAT'S SOMETHING. 
          >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE TAKEN STEPS TO ESTABLISH A REGIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND WHICH WE THINK WILL GO A LONG WAY. AND WHEN YOU HAVE AN IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCE AND YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL TO ADMINISTER THAT THAT WILL THEN REALLY HELP NOT ONLY THE COUNTY BUT THE REGION AND OUR MUNICIPALITIES TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING LAND TRUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY LANDS AND ACQUIRE LANDS APPROPRIATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ALONG WITH THAT, ACTIVELY PURSUING GRANTS AND OTHER PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION, SOME COMMENTS THAT CAME IN THAT WE'VE MADE SOME 
          REVISIONS. >> CONSIDERING REESTABLISHING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TASK FORCE TO PROVIDE THE CONTINUAL EVALUATION OF OUR POLICIES FROM DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN PROMOTING WHAT WE CALL MAYBE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, THIS IS A TERM THAT REFERS TO IF YOU LOOK AT HOUSING AS YOUR SINGLE FAMILY AND YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          THIS IS EVERYTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF DUPLEXES, TOWNHOUSES, SMALL APARTMENT BUILDINGS. 
          WHAT IN WHAT WAYS CAN WE PROMOTE THAT TYPE OF HOUSING IN A MUCH MORE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE VERSUS HAVING TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE DICHOTOMY OF SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS MULTI-FAMILY AND THAT PROVIDES MORE EQUITY AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE CONDUCIVE TO A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE MIX OF INCOMES THAT PEOPLE 
          LIVING IN AN AREA THAT SLIDE COMMUNITY FACILITIES. >> YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN WE REALLY FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY ,EQUITY AND RESILIENCY AND CITING PUBLIC FACILITIES AND DELIVERING PUBLIC SERVICES. YOU KNOW WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CITES NEW STATIONS OR BUILDINGS. A LOT OF THAT SHOULD FOLLOW OUR LAND USE POLICIES. 
          THEY SHOULD BE EQUITY EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED AND ALSO FOCUS ON YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE BUILDING OUT OF HARM'S WAY IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, THE THREATS OF FLOODING. 
          >> WE HAD A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ABOUT EXPANSION OF PUBLIC SEWER AND WATER INTO COMMUNITIES WITH FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS OR ALSO WITH COMPROMISED GROUNDWATER OR VERY LOW WATER PRESSURE THAT IS COMPROMISING FIRE PROTECTION IN THE COMMUNITIES PROMOTING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPROACH TO WASTE REMOVAL DISPOSAL, HELPING LIBRARIES THAT MEET OUR CURRENT NEEDS AS OUR POPULATION BUT ALSO REFLECTING CURRENT TRENDS AND PROGRAMING. 
          AND THEN ALSO CITING FUTURE SCHOOLS IN A WAY THAT IT'S SERVING OUR POPULATION FAIRLY 
          SO FINALLY BUILT ENVIRONMENT. >> THIS IS REALLY GETTING TO THE HEART OF , YOU KNOW, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S IT'S LAND USE COMPONENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID AS PART OF THIS IS TO LOOK AT A BILL TO HAVE ANALYSIS JUST LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT APPROVED PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS IN SUBDIVISIONS. AND WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES AND WITHIN THE APPROVED SUBDIVISIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT 
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THERE IS PLENTY OF CAPACITY FOR FUTURE GROWTH. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE IT'S ALL GOING TO OCCUR, BUT I THINK IT PUTS IN PERSPECTIVE THAT WE WE STILL HAVE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO BE JUMPING OVER THE WHALE BRANCH RIVER OVER CHALLENGE CREEK FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY WITHIN THOSE AREAS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS FUTURE GROWTH AREAS OF THE COUNTY. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING PRESSURE. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT TOO TO MOVE BEYOND YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVEN'T IN THAT SUPPORTS HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND SO THAT KIND OF GROUNDS US IN TO TO PROMOTING. I WOULD SAY MAKING SURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRING IN AREAS THAT CAN SUPPORT IT HAVE THE FACILITIES YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT AND ALSO WHERE PEOPLE HAVE MUCH MORE READILY AVAILABLE SERVICES AND ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT. 
          >> SO THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN THOSE THEMES MAKING SURE LAND USE POLICIES PROMOTING RESILIENCY AND AN EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT WITH A SENSE OF PLACE. 
          THOSE ARE PARTS OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES DESIGNED TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S A POLICY THAT WE'RE 
          CARRYING FORWARD. >> FOCUSING ON TRANSIT READY DEVELOPMENT THIS IS KIND OF A FANCY WORD. THERE'S WE DO HAVE AN EXPANSION OF OUR CURRENT OFFERINGS FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WORKS BETTER WHEN YOU HAVE NODES OR WALKABLE COMMUNITIES FOR IT TO SERVE. AND SO PART OF THAT IS LOOKING AT LET'S SAY AN AREA LIKE BLUFFTON PARKWAY OR THE U.S. 278 CORRIDOR AS AN OLDER POP SHOPPING CENTER. REDEVELOPED IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE MORE NIXON USES AND PROVIDE MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITY . AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PLAN LOOKS. AND THEN FINALLY USING OUR GREEN PRINT PLAN RECOGNIZING THOSE AREAS THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE THAT WE MAY WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, FEATURE DEVELOPED IN THOSE AREAS IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT THE LAND CAN SUPPORT. GO ON THE NEXT SLIDE IN THE HEART OF THIS PLAN AND SORT FUTURE LAND USE MAP EVERY TIME WE DO A ZONING AMENDMENT WE'RE 
          REFERRING TO THIS. >> AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE FORWARDING AS WELL IN THIS PLAN. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF RADICAL CHANGES FROM OUR 2010 PLAN. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S RECOGNIZING THAT THAT LAND THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE GROWTH THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CAPACITY TO GROW. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE ON HERE WE HAVE THE GROWTH BOUNDARY FOR BEAUFORT IN PORT ROYAL THAT ENCOMPASSES MOST OF LADY'S ISLAND AND PORT ROYAL ISLAND THAT IS IN THE PLAN. BUT WE ALSO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR GROWTH BATTERIES IN THE NSC AREA. MANY IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE MSE HAS BEEN GROWING RATHER SIGNIFICANTLY LATELY. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEIR STAFF TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LAND USE POLICIES ARE ALIGNED IN THAT AREA AND THEN REALLY KIND OF IDENTIFYING MEETING WILL WORK WITH THEM. 
          THIS IS REALLY A STARTING POINT OF DISCUSSION IN OUR PLAN. THE TOWN IS EMBARKING ON A PLAN FOR THE TOWN OF THE EMBASSY. IT SHOULD BE THIS FALL AND WE INTEND TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM AS WELL. THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD STAFF MEMBER WHO'S WHO'S VERY YOU KNOW, INTERESTED IN REGIONAL COOPERATION AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. 
          ANOTHER ONE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HARDY BILL JASPER COUNTY LOOKING AT THE 170 CORRIDOR AND FUTURE GROWTH OF THE CITY OF HARDY VILLE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED DISCUSSION IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE TWO PROPOSED NEW GROWTH BOUNDARIES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS CONFERENCE A PLAN. FINALLY AT THE END OF THE PLAN 
          YOU WILL SEE FOCUSED PLANNING AREAS. >> WE LOOK AT US TO SEPARATE CORRIDOR 170 LADY'S ISLAND ST. HELENA. I WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO NEXT SLIDE. WE ADDED A NEW ONE SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU LOOKED AT AND THAT'S GMAC. WE SAT DOWN WITH THEIR STAFF AND KIND OF LOOKED AT THE AREA WHERE THEY HAVE CURRENTLY ANNEX LAND AND WHERE THEY SEE THE TOWN WANTING TO GROW IN THE FUTURE. AND SO WE HAVE KIND OF A ROUGH LINE THAT GOES ALONG 17 AND UP JUST SHORT OF RIVER ROAD. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE 
          DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN ABOUT. >> SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          I THINK JUST HAVING THIS COOPERATION WITH YOU KNOW, WITH THE TOWN OF GMAC IS REALLY THIS 
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IS REALLY PROBABLY THE MOST WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER IN THE 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          NEXT ONE IS THE ACTION PLAN AND I THINK I WENT OVER THIS THIS IS JUST A VISUAL. 
          YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH EACH RECOMMENDATION OR EACH ACTION ITEM AND TALK ABOUT WHERE IT FALLS IN TERMS OF TIMING. WHAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTED IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A LOW YOU KNOW, SOME PROJECTS ARE FREE. IT'S ENACTING AN ORDINANCE OR YOU KNOW, SOME MAY BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS MATCHED WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. AND THEN WE IDENTIFY WHO'S GOING TO DO IT. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL REALLY ASSIST US IN TRACKING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. AND THEN FINALLY AND THIS IS JUST OFFICIAL THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED THIS IS ONE OF ABOUT SEVEN PAGES OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN IDENTIFYING EACH PROJECT WITHIN THE COST ESTIMATE AND WHERE IT FALLS WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS ALSO IDENTIFY AS POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL 
          FUNDING SOURCES. >> OUR NEXT STEPS RIGHT NOW WERE WE'RE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW, WHAT DIRECTION YOU TAKE, OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE GO TO NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE ON OCTOBER 4TH. 
          IF ALL GOES SMOOTHLY YOU'D BE LOOKING AT THE NEXT THREE READINGS OF COUNTY COUNCIL AND ADOPTION IN NOVEMBER. IT'S BEEN EXPRESSED BY COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ADOPTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE LEARNED LAST SUMMER IS, YOU KNOW, PLANS ARE NOT SOMETHING YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE TIMES YOU NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK, YOU KNOW AND WE CERTAINLY DID LAST SUMMER. 
          >> SO I'D SAY THAT AS A CAVEAT. BUT THIS IS OUR GOAL AND WE WILL LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM YOU AND ALSO FROM COUNTY COUNCIL ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD . 
          >> OKAY. WE DO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          I'D LIKE TO HAVE CHANGES. DO YOU THINK YOU'VE MADE SINCE YOU HANDED OUT ALL COPY? 
          WELL, WE WERE ALL GIVEN THE COPY. >> YOU REMEMBER THAT? 
          NO, NO I DOUBT. >> I MEAN I WOULD SAY SEVERAL HUNDREDS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE IF WE HAD A SPREADSHEET THAT TRACKED ALL THE COMMENTS THERE WERE SOME THERE WERE SOME OVERLAP YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM POINTING TO THE SAME RECONCILIATION. 
          >> BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT ONE HUNDREDTHS THAT IS THAT WE SAID, YOU KNOW, FROM THOSE COMMENTS TO OUR CONSULTANT, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THEM 
          BEFORE WE VOTE ON THEM? >> WELL, YES. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WE BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR AUGUST MEETING WITH WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WE HAD ALL THE COMMENTS AND WE HAVE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMENTS. 
          >> SO WE WERE HOPING YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IT'S UP TO YOU ALL BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO WELL, AS YOU'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGES THAT THEY MADE. I THINK ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE PAGE DOCUMENT BETWEEN THAT AND THE ACTION PLAN A LOT OF DETAIL YOU JUST HIT THE 20000 FOOT LEVEL BUT WE'VE HAD WE'VE SEEN IT HAS BEEN FOR US AT LEAST FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THIS NATURE OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. I HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT. I THINK IT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD DOCUMENT AND I APPLAUD THE DEPTH THAT YOU WENT INTO AND THE EXTRA EFFORT TO TALK TO SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE PERHAPS OTHER UNDERSERVED POPULATION CONCERNS AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT AND THAT IT CAN BE CHANGED. THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THIS IS OUR FIRST STAKE IN THE GROUND. 
          >> SO HOW WE'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH OUR PLANNING NEAR TERM AND LONG TERM THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          VERY CAPABLE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT TO TASK TO WORK ON THIS. YOU HAVE MY ENDORSEMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE COMMENTS. BRENDON, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU STAFF AND THE 
          COMPANY THAT YOU USED WORKING WITH THIS DOCUMENT. >> IT'S IT'S NIGHT AND DAY FROM 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST CAME TO TOWN AND I SEE A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS GONE 
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          INTO IT. >> AND I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO APPROVE IT AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO COMPLETION TO THE TWO COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY ADMISSIONS SYSTEM? I AGREE WITH RANDY. 
          HAVING WORKED ON THE 2000 YOU KNOW PROVIDED INPUT ON THE 2000 PLAN, I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE THIS IS A PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME WHERE THERE MAY BE FEDERAL MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. 
          YOU DIDN'T PREDICT THIS BUT YOU NOW HAVE A PLAN IS THAT PEOPLE COUNTRY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS OR WITHIN A KIND OF COUNCIL WITHIN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION WHOMEVER YOU NOW HAVE A PRODUCT THAT YOU CAN BASE FOR ANY GRANT APPLICATION. SO SO FOR YOU KNOW, FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENT. SO I'M PARTICULARLY THRILLED ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I'M SURE THE PUBLIC WAS JUST DYING TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOU KNOW, 
          THIS IS A 10 YEAR PLAN. >> HOWEVER, WE CALL IT THE 2014 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH WILL EXPLAIN ONE MORE TIME WHY WE'VE DONE THAT. YEAH, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I NEVER GOTTEN A LOT OF FLACK. I THINK ALSO FROM THE CONSULTANT BECAUSE I THINK A TOWN OF PORT ROYAL COLLEGE OF 2030 PLAN THAT YOU KNOW ARE MY ANSWER IS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU 
          LOOK OUT TO 2040 IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR TODAY. >> I MEAN IT YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE THE ACTION ITEMS THE ARE REALLY MEANT TO BE THINGS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME. BUT IN ORDER TO REALLY HAVE A GOOD FRAMEWORK, YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2030 OR LOOKING 10 YEARS BEYOND THAT IS KIND OF HOW I SEE AND YOU HAVE GREAT DEMOGRAPHIC AND SACRED TRAFFIC DATA TO BACK THAT OUT UP TO 
          2040. >> YOU KNOW, COURSE THAT IT HAS THAT CHANGES THAT WILL BE MODIFIED. I WOULD IMAGINE YES. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ALWAYS AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S HARD TO PICK A PERFECT TIME TO DO CONFERENCE AND PLANNING BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LATZ IS UPDATING THEIR LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION STUDY AND PART OF THAT WILL BE OUR LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE REVISING THE TRANSPORTATION MODEL WHICH IS A LOT OF WHAT IS BUILT INTO THAT OUR POPULATION PROJECTIONS. SO AND WE ALSO ARE JUST RECEIVING THE INITIAL FIGURES FROM THE 2020 CENSUS SO THAT AS MORE INFORMATION MORE DATA IS AVAILABLE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PRESS ON. AND SO WHEN WE DEVELOP OUR TRANSPORTATION MODEL WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS IT MAY BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PROJECTIONS AND WHAT'S IN HERE BECAUSE 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION. >> BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF PLANNING. YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE YOUR BEST ESTIMATE AT THE TIME AND THEN YOU SURE YOU DON'T COMPLETELY TIE YOUR HANDS TO WHAT YOU DID TO NAME THE PUBLIC INTENDING TO 
          MAKE A COMMENTS REGARDING THE PLAN. >> THE PLAN IS IT WILL CONTINUE TO STAY ON LINE. WELL, THEY'RE ALSO UNDERSTAND COPIES IN THE LIBRARIES FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS. YEAH. AND I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT WE NEED TO PRINT SOME MORE. SO YES. 
          ENCOURAGING. YES, SIR. >> OKAY. 
          HAVE A HEARING. NO FURTHER COMMENTS. JUST THAT THE NEXT STEPS. 
          THEIR NEXT STEPS TO THIS THERE WERE. YEAH. 
          THE NEXT STEP WILL BE THE PENDING YOU KNOW, THE ACTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          IT WOULD GO TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE AT THEIR OCTOBER MEETING AND THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE READINGS AT COUNTY COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW REALLY EVERY SINGLE AND I EMPHASIZE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE IS A PUBLIC MEETING. 
          AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER FROM THE LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS SOMETIMES COUNCIL WILL HAVE THEIR OWN COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATION. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS AN IDEALIZED TIMELINE BUT IT'S 
          CERTAINLY A IT'S OUR GOAL. >> ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE HELPFUL . 
          JUST ONE QUICK THING. >> UM, ROB, YOU'VE BEEN SO GOOD YOU AND YOUR STAFF ABOUT COMMUNICATION. I WOULD JUST URGE YOU TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE YOU KNOW, IT GOES NATURAL RESOURCES BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE THREE READINGS BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL LIKE DON'T EVER LET UP ON THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT X NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS WENT OUT TO A PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THERE ARE ONLY THREE LEFT WHICH IS YES OR NO LIKE 1 PERCENT LEFT OR SOMETHING. THERE'S CLEARLY TREMENDOUS INTEREST. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE SEEN IT A LOT AND WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FINE GRAINED VIEW BUT I WOULD JUST 
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URGE YOU TO KEEP THAT KIND OUTFLOW OF COMMUNICATION. YEAH, WE HAVE A EXCELLENT NEW 
          PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WHO JOINED US THIS SUMMER. >> HE'S REALLY, REALLY EMPHASIZING THAT FACT THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS GOES TO COUNCIL OR TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE THAT'S A YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          WELL, IT'S EXCITING BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A GOOD PRODUCT. RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES THAT KIND OF GOODSELL A LITTLE LESS DIFFICULT. 
          IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SO GOOD PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED AND THAT'S THANKS TO YOU. 
          OK, EVERY NO OTHER COMMENTS I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 24 20, 40 BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THAT AND MOTIONS TO BE MADE IN SECONDS. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND FOLKS. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU DID? 
          [8. BEAUFORT COUNTY CONNECTS: BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN 2021]
YES, I WAS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OK. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING TOO FAR. >> NO, I IS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CONNEX BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN 
          PLAN FOR TWENTY FOUR ONE. >> I ASSUME THAT YOU WANT US TO IT'S INCLUDED AS PART OF THE 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. >> YES. 
          WHAT WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS THAT THIS AND I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS PLAN BE INCLUDED AS AN APPENDIX TO THE CONFERENCE AND I THINK I CAN 
          REMEMBER HAVE WE SHARED THIS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION? >> SO WE'VE BEEN. 
          OK. YEAH. YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT WE'VE GONE TO OUR REGIONAL BOARDS QUITE A BIT WITH THIS PLAN. NEXT YEAR REMEMBER IF WE'VE GIVEN YOU A HEADS UP THAT THIS IS A BEFORE COUNTY CONNEX IS A COUNTY WIDE. 
          >> AND I WOULD SAY EMPHASIZE IT'S COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITY BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT SLIDE. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PARTNERS BOTH THE COUNTY, THE MUNICIPALITIES, DIFFERENT ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS, FRIENDS OF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU'RE REALLY RECTOR SENSE I WOULD SAY A BROAD CROSS-SECTION OF INTERESTS IN WALKING AND BIKING. WE FORMED A TASK FORCE I WANTED TO COMMEND THE WORK OF I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER NOAH CRAFTS HAS MOVED ON TO THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL. HE REALLY SPEARHEADED THIS EFFORT AND GOT THIS GROUP TOGETHER AND ADMINISTERED IT THROUGH A LOT OF IT THROUGH CODIS THROUGH REMOTE MEETINGS WHICH HAD ITS OWN SHARE OF CHALLENGES AND GIULIANI'S SMITH WHO IS OUR NEW LONG RANGE PLANNER HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AND TYING UP ALL THE LOOSE ENDS AND GETTING THIS FINAL 
          PRODUCT TOGETHER. >> SO I JUST WANTED TO REALLY COMMEND THOSE IN THEIR WORK. 
          GIULIANI'S SHE'S ON VACATION SO OTHERWISE I'D BE HAVING HER DO THIS PRESENTATION. 
          JUST REAL BRIEFLY, WHAT IS YOUR WIFE PLANNED FOR FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIANS IF THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THOSE ACTIVITIES OR ACTIONS THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT REALLY ACHIEVES A LOT OF DIFFERENT GOALS. YOU KNOW, HAVING GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR CYCLING AND WALKING IMPROVES PUBLIC HEALTH. IT INCREASES TRAFFIC AND EMISSIONS IF IT'S A VIABLE TRANSPORTATION CHOICE, IT PROVIDES EQUITABLE ACCESS TO FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT NOT EVERYONE CAN DRIVE A CAR. INCREASED SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN PLACE. 
          I'VE NOTICED THIS JUST ON THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL. IT'S REALLY TRANSFORMING THE COMMUNITIES THAT IT IS PASSED THROUGH REDUCES COLLISIONS INVOLVING PEDESTRIANS A HAVE GOU KNOW MEAN FEWER OF PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AND THEN FINALLY IT'S A DRIVER OF ECONOMIC SUCCESS. 
          YOU KNOW THESE THINGS ARE YOU KNOW, MAKE A REGION MORE ATTRACTIVE AND RAISE PROPERTY VALUES. AND SO ALL OF THOSE REASONS ALONG WITH DIFFERENT COUNTY TODAY IS A MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE THAN LET'S SAY 20 YEARS AGO WHEN THE ONLY VIABLE OPTIONS FOR RIDING A BIKE OFF OF MAIN ROAD WOULD HAVE BEEN HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          BUT NOW WE HAVE A GOOD NETWORK IN SOUTHERN BEFORE COUNTY ALONG THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY OLDER PARKWAY 170 AND THEN IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY WITH THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND ALL OF THOSE REALLY OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES. ONCE YOU HAVE A GOOD SPINE YOU KNOW, LIGHT NETWORK. HOW CAN YOU CONNECT MORE COMMUNITIES AND MAKE IT A VIABLE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION? THERE'S REALLY THREE OF CHECKED OBJECTIVES HERE. 
          THE FIRST IS CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW, REALLY TRYING TO CONNECT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE COMMUNITIES 
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. THESE TWO ARE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN NETWORK ESTABLISHING WALKING, BIKING THIS ROUTINE, MAKING IT EFFICIENT AND SAY FOR ALL FOR ALL RESIDENTS WHO WISH 
          TO DO SO. >> AND THEN FINALLY THIS IS AN EQUITY ISSUE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S CREATING A YOU KNOW, A FREE RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE A CAR OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE A CAR. IT REALLY SERVES A CROSS-SECTION OF , YOU KNOW, OUR POPULATION AND GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE THE THREE PRINCIPLES 
          GUIDING THIS PLAN. >> THE FIRST IS MAKING CONNECTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, CONNECTING RESIDENTS TO JOBS, SCHOOLS, PARK SHOPPING ,YOU KNOW, SAID THAT THEY HAD MEANINGFUL DESTINATIONS. SO IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING SOLELY FOR RECREATION TARGETING WHAT WE CALL THE INTERESTED BUT CONCERNED. 
          IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE THEIR BIKE ON TO THE BUSIEST ROAD AND BATTLE TRAFFIC AND THEY WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, RIDING ALONG ANY ROADWAY THAT THAT REPRESENTS A VERY SMALL SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION. THERE IS A LARGE GROUP I WOULD SAY THAT MAYBE THE SILENT MAJORITY WHO WOULD BIKE MORE OFTEN IF THERE WERE SAFE FACILITIES THAT WERE CONVENIENT WHERE THEY LIVED. AND THAT'S REALLY THE GROUP THAT WE'RE TARGETING BECAUSE THAT'S A GROUP THAT CHANGE HABITS. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE FACILITIES AVAILABLE NOT THAT WE HAVE THIS PLAN ALSO LOOKS AT ROAD CYCLING AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO SPINE AND SPUR APPROACH RECOGNIZING WHERE THE MAIN MULTI USE PATH CORRIDORS ARE IN BUILDING OFTEN THEM AND MAKING CONNECTIONS TO 
          COMMUNITIES. >> SO WE'VE WORKED WITH WHAT WE CALL EXISTING IN COMPRESSION PROJECTS. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ ON THIS AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          AND THEN WE LOOKED AT OK, WELL HOW DO WE MAKE A MORE COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE NETWORK? SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE WITH OUR FULLY IMPLEMENTED BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN OF WITHIN EACH YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR MAPS WE HAVE WE EVER EXISTING AND COMMITTED PROJECTS WHICH WE'RE 
          TAKING AS A GIVEN. >> AND THEN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE IMMEDIATE MID AND LONG TERM BIKE OR MULTI USE FACILITIES IN THE SEABROOK AREA. 
          A LOT OF THIS EMPHASIS IS WE HAVE EXISTING PATHWAY ALONG 17 AND WE HAVE THE EAST COAST GREENWAY WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO USE 17 TO GO INTO FOR COUNTY AND IT'S LOOKING AT WHICH WHICH ROADS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SAFEST TO CYCLE ALONG AND IT IDENTIFIES IN THE DALE COMMUNITY LIKE KIM'S NECK ROAD AS IS EXAMPLES, YOU KNOW. SO ONCE THEY GET DOWN TO PORT ROYAL ISLAND THEY CAN GET ON THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND THEN CONTINUE SOUTH AND THEN MAKE THEIR WAY TOWARD BLUFFTON ALONG 170. SO THAT WAS ONE FACTOR THAT FIT INTO THIS PLAN. THE NEXT SLIDE AND I CAN GO THROUGH THESE BRIEFLY AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THIS IS THE BEAUFORT URBAN AREA ST. HELENA ISLAND AND LADY ISLANDS AND THEN WE LOOKED AT BLUFFTON ESPECIALLY AROUND NEW RIVERSIDE AND THEY HAVE A LINEAR TRAIL OVER THERE ON AN OLD RAIL BED ALONG THE 170 CORRIDOR AND THEN WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ON YOU KNOW HOW TO BUILD OFF OF NOT ONLY THE EXISTING TRAIL NETWORK THERE BUT HOW TO PROVIDE MORE CONNECTIVITY TO THE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PART OLD 
          TOWN OF BLUFFTON. >> AND THEN FINALLY HILTON HEAD ISLAND WHICH OF COURSE IS A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPING MULTI USE PATHWAYS AND THEN FINALLY WE REACHED OUT TO HARDY VILLAGE JASPER COUNTY AND YOU KNOW, INTEGRATED OUR PLAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE IN 
          THEIR LONG RANGE PEDESTRIAN PLANTS. >> WE LOOKED AT FUNDING SOURCES RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE A MULTI YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT MANY DIFFERENT OFF OPTIONS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS SALES TAX HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT IS YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW FOR PATHWAYS THAT THAT'S AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE. 
          >> OUR LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAX WORKING WITH LATS WHEN THEY GET FEDERAL FUNDS A LOT OF THOSE ARE FOR NOT JUST FOR TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, ROAD PROJECTS BUT FOR MULTI-MODAL OR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO AGAIN, AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT USSR'S YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY OF MORE FEDERAL DOLLARS BEING AVAILABLE FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND SO HAVING THIS PLAN IN PLACE HAD A LINK AS THE CONFERENCE PLAN REALLY POSITIONS US WELL IN BEING ABLE TO PURSUE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR PROJECTS LIKE IMPLEMENTATION. 
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          >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NET SOMEONE'S ON THE ZONE OF THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH EACH OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AND THEIR LOCAL PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          >> SO A SIMILAR PRESENTS ASIAN IS AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OF GOING TO EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL. WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE LAPS LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION STUDY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT ON AND THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED. I THINK THEY SEE THIS AS KIND OF A SHORTCUT TO THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO DEVELOPING THAT FUNDING STRATEGY ANTICIPATE REALLY COMING UP WITH AN ANNUAL REVENUE STREAM TO PLAN FOR. WE CALL FOR CREATING A STAFF POSITION AND EVENTUALLY HAVING SOMEBODY DEDICATED TO DOING THIS WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL WORKING TO DEVELOP A NONPROFIT ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION FOR THESE PROJECTS. 
          >> SO ALL OF THESE IT'S REALLY NOT ONLY A RECOMMENDATION OF PROJECTS BUT A STRATEGY FOR HOW TO POSITION OURSELVES BETTER TO IMPLEMENT. THE OTHER THING THE PLAN DOES IS WE COME UP WITH A PRIORITIZATION MATRIX. SO IF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE ARE MEDIA SHORT AND LONG TERM BUT WE ALSO HAVE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT BECAUSE THERE ARE ALWAYS CHANGES ALWAYS NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A MATRIX OF EVALUATE THAT THIS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY BUILDING OFF OF OUR CURRENT NETWORK AND MEETING THE OBJECTIVES OF THIS PLAN PROVIDING THAT CONNECTIVITY OR IS IT SOMETHING REALLY JUST SERVING ONE SMALL AREA? 
          >> GO ON THE THAT THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT. >> I HOPE YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT. I'M WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IS PLANNED AND IN THE MAKING I THINK OUR FIRST MEETING WAS LATE FALL 
          OF 2000 19. >> SO THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY YOU KNOW, SINCE LAST SPRING FINALIZING THE DOCUMENT. SO I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT GOING ON TWO YEARS AND I RECALL BACK GOING TO BE ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO WHEN THE WHOLE IDEA OF PATHWAYS AND SPANISH MOSS TRAIL WAS KIND OF A GLINT IN SOMEONE'S EYES AND PEOPLE WOULD GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES I REMEMBER BEING ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PATHWAY DOWN 117 WHICH I SAID OH I KNOW HOW THAT CAN EVER HAPPEN. 
          >> SO I MEAN BY STICKING TO IT AND RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE TO MAKE PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT MULTI-MODAL CAPABILITY AND SAY IT'S A BIG TASK AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A INITIAL PLAN THAT WE THINK IS WORKABLE AND NOW IT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT'S GOING TO 
          BE NECESSARY. >> I THINK IT'S A LOT EASIER TO ENVISION WHEN YOU HAVE ACTUAL 
          PATH IDEAS THAT WERE 20 YEARS GOES. >> YEAH. 
          IT'S REALLY HARD. YEAH. I DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ON FIRST OF ALL I HEARTILY APPROVE IT. I THINK IT'S IT'S A GREAT WHERE I THINK IT GETS THE BICYCLISTS GO UP THE STREET BUT I DON'T THINK IT GOES FAR ENOUGH. 
          MY WIFE AND I GO INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MAYBE TWO OR THREE NIGHTS A WEEK IN THE TOWN LEFT IN THE STREET WOMEN IS 30 MILES AN HOUR AND ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT YOU CAN SEE 15 TO 20 GOLF QUITE POOR IN THE TOWN SQUARE DRIVING ROUND THE STREETS. I LOOK AT WHAT I GO BY THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS LIKE THE CHRISTINA CANNOT BE JUST FINISHED ON BUCHWALD MY INFLECTED PARKWAY AND THE OTHER PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT'S JUST A 170. 
          THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP EVERY DAY FOR HALF A MILE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE WITH CARS RUNNING BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS ARE PICKING UP THEIR CHILDREN AT SCHOOL. 
          I LOOK AT COMMUNITIES LIKE HAMPTON LAKES, HAMPTON HALL ALL WITHIN EARSHOT OF A PUBLIC THINK FOR OGRES I LOOK AT DOWN AND PRITCHARD BILL THEY'RE BUILDING LIKE CRAZY AND THEY PUT NEW PUBLICS IN THOSE PEOPLE AT LEAST IN THOSE AREAS. THE BICYCLE PART SHOULD BE WIDENED TO ACCOMMODATE THE MOST GREEN TRANSPORTATION WE HAVE AND THAT'S A GOLF CART RIGHT? 
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MOST BIKE IS IN THIS FEEL THAT IT'S VERY SAFE GOING, YOU KNOW, 25 TO 30 MILES PER HOUR WITH CARS GOING BY. I THERE'S ALSO A HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE ELECTRIC BIKE 
          MANUFACTURERS. >> NOW THOSE BIKES GO UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR. 
          I IF YOU'RE GOING TO PERMIT AN ELECTRIC BIKE RIDE ON A BICYCLE PACK, THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T WIDEN THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SPANISH MORSE TRAIL OR YOU KNOW, GOING I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO DRIVE OUT 
          OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND GO TO MILES TO A SHOPPING CENTER. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          LIKE RICHARD PHIL I MEAN WE'RE LUCKY WHERE I LIVE. WE CAN GO TO A FOOD LINE AND WE CAN GO TO A BURGER KING. WE CAN GO TO A DUNKIN DONUTS, A BARREL. 
          BUT MOST PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO SHOPPING ARE NOT GOING IN THEIR BICYCLE. 
          THEY'RE GETTING IN THEIR CAR TO GO TO THAT SHOPPING CENTER BECAUSE MAYBE THEY SEND THEIR CHILDREN UP FOR WANTING TO RIDE . AND I JUST FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO. I MEAN IT'S THE MOST GREEN THING OF TRANSPORTATION WE HAVE BESIDES OF LIFE ELECTRIC SEVEN POINT SIX BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF GOLF CARTS WILL BE ON THE ROAD BY TWO THOUSAND BY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY SIX SEVEN POINT EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS. 
          WHY? BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S USING THEM TO GO GREEN AND WE ARE IGNORING THAT FACT THAT IT'S A KEY. NOW CAN EVERYBODY GET A GOLF CART? NO. DO THE WEALTHY PEOPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE RETIRED GET A GOLF CART? YES. ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT JUST THINK IF YOU CAN TAKE 30 CORES OUT OF THAT NOISE FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN TWO MILES EVERY DAY, THE EMISSIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN . 
          >> ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. 
          I MEAN WE COULD PUT UP SIGNS NO GOLF CARTS PERMITTED ON THIS AREA. 
          I SAW A SIGN TODAY THAT SAID NO MORE TWICE COSTS WILL THERE BE PEOPLE GET BREAK THE RULE? YES. JUST LIKE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK ON TO 78 IN A 45 MILE AN HOUR IS ONLY 160 MILES AN HOUR. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU I KNOW IT CAN'T BE DONE NOW BUT IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION. SO HOPEFULLY YOU WILL TAKE THAT 
          INTO CONSIDER. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY ELSE. 
          >> BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT ISSUE? >> HAVE YOU LOOKED AT GOLF CART 
          TRANSPORTATION FOR CERTAIN HUBS? >> THAT THAT WAS NOT PART. 
          >> THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS AN ICICLE DUST TRAIN A NIGHT. 
          NO, IT'S NOT A GATE TRAFFIC. I MEAN I THINK THAT'S A TOWN OF BLUFFTON ISSUE TO MITIGATE BUT ALSO IT GETS THE PEOPLE I MEAN I THINK IT WILL. HAVE YOU SEEN THE AMOUNT OF CLOTHES THAT BACK UP PICKING UP THE CHILDREN AT PRIVATE SCHOOLS? IT'S OUTRAGEOUS WHAT SOME OF THE AGAIN WHAT THE ROLE OF THE GULF HAS TO DO WITH PARENTS PICKING UP THEIR KIDS TO I CAN USE A GOLF CART. GET YOUR KID. 
          >> YEAH. OK. NO, I DON'T. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IN WHITE COMMUNITY MOST PEOPLE USE A GOLF CART TO GO UP SHOPPING. 
          >> SUN CITY. YES. ALL RIGHT. 
          IF IT HAD BEEN LAKES HAD THAT CAPABILITY, YOU DON'T THINK THEY WOULD RIGHT. 
          THE PUBLIC'S OH. >> I KNOW I LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. 
          OH, WELL SO AS A CYCLIST I'M VERY PLEASED WITH NO, I. >> I JUST THINK IN CERTAIN AREAS I THINK BASIC IT DID LOOK WHERE IT SAID THAT THEY ALL FEEL SAFE WITH CAUSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE GROUP GOING 25 TO 30 MILES AN HOUR WILL ELECTRIC BICYCLE BE ALLOWED TO DRIVE ON THE BICYCLE PATH THAT GO UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR? THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TRAIL. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'LL ALLOW IT ON THESE END BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON THE TRAIL. 
          THERE ARE ELECTRIC IS ON THERE. MY WIFE WAS AN OVERNIGHT STAY SO THEY'RE NOT STUDENT SO 
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THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MOTORIZED VEHICLES WHICH IS WE NEED BE. 
          OTHERWISE THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. I MEAN I THINK IT'S LIKE JUST TAKING A FEW DAYS. I HOPE IT'S TAKING OFF FOR FUTURE USE BECAUSE IT IS A VERY GREEN WAY OF TRANSPORTATION IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND I'M THINKING MY SCHOOL WOULD BE 
          FUNDED BY BUT YET THE PAINT THE WHITE WALKING DOWN THE STREET. >> GONE. 
          >> ONE THING I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THAT THROUGH TIME BUT AGAIN I'D LIKE TO SAY KUDOS NOT BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE BUT LOOK ON THAT SLIDE AND I SEE EVERY MUNICIPAL INCLUDING THE COUNTY AND OTHER COUNTIES PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          >> AND I LOVE TO SEE WHEN THE REGION GETS TOGETHER AND WORKS ON A PROGRAM AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT THINKS YOU'RE WORKING ON ROB. 
          HOW? I WAS ALSO IMPRESSED KNOWING THAT RANDY WEST LIKE THE AMAZING GROUP THAT YOU ALL ASSEMBLED HERE THAT KNOW ASSEMBLED. 
          TELL ME HOW TO BE PARISH SCHOOL DISTRICT IS RESPONDING. BECAUSE I THINK LIKE MY PRIORITY IN FACT WOULD BE TO GET SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS FOR KIDS THAT WOULD LIKE MUCH MORE THAN TOURISTS, FOR EXAMPLE. AND I THINK MY OWN OPINION IS THAT THE OUTSIDE THE PLANTATION WORLD IS HELPING THAT A LOT OF THOSE BIKE PATHS ARE ACCESS BY TOURISTS AND ARE A BIG TOURIST DRAW WHICH IS GREAT. BUT ON THIS SIDE OF THE RIVER I THINK THAT AGAIN ONLY MY BIAS WOULD TO HAVE KIDS BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL IF THAT'S POSSIBLE IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOW THEY DO IT. SO I WONDER HOW SCHOOL DISTRICT IS RESPONDING. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE YOU KNOW, CAROL CRUTCHFIELD WAS ON TASK FORCE AND I WAS VERY ACTIVE AND A LOT OF THAT WAS ONE OF THE CRITERIA WITH THAT GROUP, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE PROJECTS WAS IS THIS PROVIDING ACCESS TO SCHOOLS SO THAT YOU KNOW, IS THE OTHER THING IS THERE SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO TALK YOU KNOW ABOUT? THERE'S A PROGRAM SAFER OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL. RIGHT. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY IN SOUTH CAROLINA IT'S NOT FUNDED. YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIRECTION ON HOW WE CAN START WORKING IN ADVOCATING FOR THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          I MEAN THERE ARE SOME SCHOOLS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY LIKE RIPE FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY AND SOME THAT AREN'T. RIGHT. SO THERE YOU GO. 
          BUT I MEAN THERE THERE THERE IS POTENTIAL THERE. YEAH. 
          YEAH NO I THERE'S I WOULD THINK A PREACHER DEAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS SITUATED WITHIN WALKING VERY CLOSE TO A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS BUT THERE'S NO GOOD CONNECTIONS. 
          >> EXACTLY. SETTING THAT SYSTEM OF HANGING FRUIT YOU KNOW MAYBE MAKING JUST A FEW CONNECTIONS TO EVERYTHING YAKUZA ON LADY'S ISLAND WOULD BE IN. 
          ANOTHER ONE TO ONE OF THE PROJECTS IT'S MOVING FORWARD AS MIDDLE ROAD PATHWAY COMING FROM 
          OUR 1 CENT SALES TAX. >> HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH SOME CONNECTED YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY BETWEEN RURAL PINES AND CRUSOE ELEMENTARY. JUST ONE LAST THING IN THE BLUFFTON MAGAZINE TODAY ICON. THERE WERE THERE WERE SEVEN NOW GOLF CART DEALERS IN BUTTE COUNTY ICON GOLF CARTS. WE HAD A BIG AD SAYING THE FUTURE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSPORTATION. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW. 
          WE SAW WITH BLUFFTON MAGAZINE I WENT IN AND I SPOKE TO THEM AND THEY SAID MOSTLY THEY HAD GOLF CARTS ARE NOT GOING OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE. THEY FOR PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION THEY'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO GO OUT ON THE GOLF. I LIVE IN PORT ROYAL AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON ON THE STREETS THERE. OK. 
          >> SO ALL RIGHT. >> FURTHER COMMENTS I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT. 
          BEAUFORT COUNTY CONNECTS BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN PLAN 20 21 AS AN APPENDIX TO THE PLAN 
          RIGHT SECOND. ALL RIGHT. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION GOES. THAT'S A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROB. 
          >> I WILL MAKE THIS ONE COMMENT. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THIS TO 
          IN ASSOCIATION'S CONFERENCE THAT THEY HELD IN JUNE. >> THERE WAS MANY, MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORT PATIENT AND JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WHEELS OR MORE MOTORIZED OR ELECTRIC CARS WAS THOUGHT OF AS A POTENTIAL USE TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION, 
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TO WORK TO PARTICULAR KNOWS WHERE THEN YOU COULD LEAVE YOUR YOUR CAR. 
          >> AND NO. AND SO ON. SO I DON'T RULE OUT ANY WAY IN THE FUTURE. I DO KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN GOLF CARTS ARE A BIG DEAL. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A GOOD PUBLIC EDUCATION SAFETY OF GOLF CARTS. MOST OF THE GOLF CARTS I SEE THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE MIRRORS. THEY DON'T HAVE SEATBELTS. THEY'RE ONLY TWO PASSENGER UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BACK. AND I'VE SEEN MANY, MANY PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN AND CHILDREN DRIVING AROUND A GOLF CART AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS UNFORTUNATELY DIED FROM A GOLF CART ACCIDENT FALLING OUT, HITTING HER HEAD ON THE ROAD, 
          JUST SPEEDING AROUND A CURVE TONIGHT A BOY SOMEBODY. >> SO I THINK BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT MULTIMODAL ONE, BE SURE THAT WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT WOULD BE INSURE SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE ANYBODY FROM MY INCONSIDERATE ACTION THAT'S TAKEN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DEVELOP AN APPROPRIATE POLICY. 
          NO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED WAS EVEN THE GOLF CARTS THAT ARE OLDER TO BE RETROFITTED 
          WITH SEATBELTS. >> ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S CHILDREN DRIVING AROUND IN BLUFFTON SITTING ON THEIR PARENTS LAPS AND VERY FEW OF THEM HAVE THE 
          SOUTH CAROLINA PERMIT. >> RIGHT. WHICH HAS TO BE ENFORCED. 
          SAFETY HAS TO BE ENFORCED. THEY'VE GOT TO BE EQUIPPED WITH THE TURN SIGNAL HEADLIGHTS 
          [9. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 56 ACRES (R600
009 000 0113 0000) 60 GASTON PLANTATION RD FROM T2 RURAL TO C3
NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE; APPLICANT: KENNETH S. TOSKY]
          BEFORE ANYTHING LIKE WE THIS HAPPENED. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, FRANK. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE WHICH IS I THINK THE LAST ISSUE ON THE AGENDA. AND THAT IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ZONING REQUEST 56 ACRES AT 60 GUEST PLANTATION ROAD 42 FOR ALL TO SEE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT YEAR. I'M RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION TO AVOID THE PERCEPTION OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST RETURNING ME LONGER TO MY VISE CHAIR OF CONDUCT THE MEETING ON THIS ISSUE. PLEASE DON'T FORGET THAT I'M WAITING TO COME BACK. 
          CAN I THANK YOU? NO ONE THINGS GO YEAH. COMMENTS BY THE CHIEF. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE ISSUE HERE AT THIS TIME TWO YEARS FROM I THINK THAT THE ORDER ISSUE SHOULD BE WITH THE WHAT WHAT ROB WOULD BE LIKE FIRST THEN THE APPLICANT, THEN COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD IN COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL REVIEW AGAIN UNTIL UNTIL WE MAKE AN ACTION ACTION ON THIS 
          IMPORTANT ISSUE. >> SO RON, PLEASE A VISE CHAIRMAN AGAIN. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT FOR US 56 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 60 GARDEN GASTON PLANTATION ROAD WHICH IS RIGHT OFF ACTUALLY IN ABOUT CATALYZING ROADS ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION OF 170 AND THE BRIDGE OVER TO KELSEY ISLAND. THE APPLICANT IS KENNETH TOSCA AND THEY'RE THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS T2 RURAL AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GREEN UP THERE ON THE TOP. 
          THE PROPOSED ZONING C 3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE T2 RURAL ALLOWS A DENSITY ONE TO 
          ELLINGTON AT PER 3 ACRES. >> SO FOR THE ENTIRE 56 ACRE SITE THAT WOULD ALLOW A TEAM DWELLING UNITS ON THE SITE AND THAT'S OF COURSE PENDING KNOW ACCESS AND WETLANDS AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES BUT THAT'S GENERALLY THE WATER ORDINANCE ALLOWS WITH THE CHANGE TO SEE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WHICH IS PRIMARILY A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW TWO POINT SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WHICH COULD ALLOW UNDER THIS ZONING UP TO ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE DWELLING UNITS. 
          THE APPLICANT IS INTERESTED TO SEE STATED IN THEIR APPLICATION IN DEVELOPING LESS THAN THAT. 
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          >> SORRY I HAVE THE NUMBER THERE I BELIEVE IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND TEN BEFORE YOU I 
          THINK IT'S ONE HUNDRED OKATIE. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO THEY'RE INTERESTED IN YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING A SUBDIVISION WHICH WITH A LOWER DENSITY BUT IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING A REZONING APPLICATION YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE DISTRICT ALLOWS AND SO THAT IS GENERALLY THE RECORD THAT REQUESTED IS BEING MADE. 
          WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PROPOSED APPLICATION, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ADD TO STATE IS THAT AND I THINK THAT MOST IF YOU'RE AWARE THIS IS THE SAME SITE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR JUNE 7TH MEETING REVIEWED AND APPEAL TO A STAFF DECISION FOR A 
          CAMPGROUND ON THAT SITE. >> SO WANTED TO VERIFY THIS IS THE SAME SITE THE STAFF WE BELIEVE YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PROCESS IS STILL UNDER LITIGATION AND IT'S NOT RESOLVED. BUT WE SEE THIS AS A SEPARATE ACTION. 
          THIS IS AN ACTION TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT AMEND THE ZONING MAP FOR THE PROPERTY WHERE THAT IT'S A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PERMIT THAT IS STILL IN THE PROCESS AND BEING CHALLENGED. AND SO WE'VE RECEIVED THIS APPLICATION AND DEEMS IT PROPER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND BRING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT THIS SITE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE SITE DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS WORLD AND REALLY THAT IS THE CASE FOR THIS ENTIRE 170 CORRIDOR OR REALLY BETWEEN OLDFIELD AND THE BRIDGE ACROSS THE BROAD RIVER THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BEEN A COUNTY POLICY THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE WE ADOPTED OUR FIRST COMPREHENSIVE 
          PLAN IN 97 AND THAT STILL REMAINS. >> SO THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CHANGE FROM THE T TO RURAL TO RURAL TO TEPE C 3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THAT FEATURE LAND IS FOUND IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT IS OF COURSE OUR EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2010. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE JUST REVIEWED THE UPDATED THAT PLAN IN THAT SAME POLICY STILL APPLIES. SO NO CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE IN THAT AREA. 
          THIS IS STILL DESIGNATED AS RURAL. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN REVIEWING IT. IT'S APPLICATION LIKE THIS. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS PROJECT JUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE PERMITTED WAS DEEMED TO GENERATE GREATER THAN 15 PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND AS A RESULT OUR CODE REQUIRES THE AFRICAN TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THEY DID DOUBTS IT WAS DONE BY A CAR WHICH IS A QUALIFIED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOKED AT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THE NUMBER OF DAILY TRIPS. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S REALLY NO THREAT TO THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY ON WHAT PELOSI DRIVE. 
          >> AND AT THE INTERSECTION THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING TO TRIGGER OVERLOADING THAT ROAD OR THE INTERSECTION THAT THE REPORT DID NOTE THAT BEING THAT THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON A CURVE, A CLASSY ROAD. THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE SPEED LIMIT IN THIS AREA BE RECONSIDERED AS A RESULT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SIGHT ISSUES THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO A LARGE SUBDIVISION ENTERING ONTO THAT PARTICULAR ROAD AT THAT LOCATION. WE LOOKED AT THE SCHOOL CAPACITY IMPACTS. 
          WE SENT AN APPLICATION TO BE FOR COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY RESPONDED WAS AND I THINK THAT THIS IS NO SURPRISE TO ANYONE BUT CURRENTLY OKATIE ELEMENTARY IS AT CAPACITY ALONG WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL THAT WOULD SERVE THIS PARTICULAR SITE. SO THAT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE SOUTH ABROAD FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I WILL NOTE HOWEVER THAT THE COUNTY THAT WE ADOPTED IMPACT FEES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SOUTH OF THE BROAD RIVER AND YOU KNOW ONE HUNDRED TEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD GENERATE ABOUT ONE POINT THIRTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN IMPACT FEES THAT COULD GO FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO WEIGH THOSE TWO THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS A LACK OF CAPACITY BUT NOW YOU KNOW THAT WASN'T THE CASE. YOU KNOW, EVEN THE LAST RECESSION AND WE LOOKED OUT THE 170 CORRIDOR THERE IS A FUNDING MECHANISM TO FEED INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CREATED BY THE IMPACT OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. 
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SO AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATION PROPOSED CHANGE FROM TO RURAL TO SEE 3 IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AS LAID OUT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THIS IS BASICALLY YOU KNOW SINCE 99 AS REDONE IN 2002 10 AND IN OUR PROPOSED CONFERENCE A PLAN IN ZONING ORDINANCE VERY CLOSELY MIRRORS OUR CONFERENCE A PLAN. THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF OUR ZONING MAP ALONG THE 170 CORRIDOR. AS YOU CAN SEE OLDFIELD IT'S KIND OF HARD TO READ. IT KIND OF BLENDS WITH THAT OLDFIELD IS PLANNING OF DEVELOPMENTS AND IT'S KIND OF A SPECKLED COLOR AND THEN YOU HAVE CALLOWAY SEA ISLANDS WHICH IS DEFINITELY HIGHER DENSITY THEN THAN THE SURROUNDING RURAL. 
          BUT THE PLAN IN BETWEEN THOSE AREAS INCLUDING SPRING ISLAND IS DESIGNATED AS BEING RURAL AND THE LAND USES THE ZONING DESIGNATION IS EITHER YOU RURAL 42 YEAR OLD NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 
          THE SMALLER PROPERTIES. >> THAT'S THE CHART 3 YOU SEE ON THERE. 
          AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CHANGE WOULD INTRODUCE A DENSITY THAT IS VERY MUCH YOU KNOW, NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND USE AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT IT DOES NOT SUPPORT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO CHANGE THE LAND USE POLICY IN THIS AREA UNLESS IT WAS INITIATED BY SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY LEVEL PLANNING EFFORT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU START WITH ONE PROPERTY THEN YOUR YOUR YOU KNOW IT BECOMES MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO DEFEND, YOU KNOW, NOT CHANGING THE NEXT PROPERTY THAT COMES IN . AND AS YOU COULD SEE IT'S THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING AND I THINK THE YOU KNOW, WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT ACROSS 170 IS JASPER COUNTY IN THE CITY OF HARDY VILLE AND THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOR THAT AREA. 
          >> BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IS VISIT LAND USE POLICY BEFORE COUNTY NOT ONLY TO PROTECT THE ROADS THE CAPACITY OF 170 AND LESSEN CONGESTION IS TO HOLD BACK ON OUR ZONING AND DENSITY. WE ALLOW THAT AREA. IT ALSO WORKS AS A GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENTS IN HARDY THAT ALL OF JASPER COUNTY AND THEN THE SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTS OF THE OKATIE AND CALL IT RIVERS WHICH HAS BEEN THE REAL OBJECTIVE IN THE COUNTY TO TO TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH LAND IN THIS AREAS TO TO LIMIT TO THE IMPACTS OF GROWTH AND THEN ALSO THE RURAL QUALITY OF THE 170 CORRIDOR. 
          I THINK THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE FUTURE 170 IT'S REALLY THE LIFELINE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND WORK IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY OR IN SAVANNAH AND THAT THE MORE CONGESTED THAT CORRIDOR BECOMES, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT BECOMES FOR YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED NOW THAT YOU COULD HAVE TO WAGE EARNERS ONE WORKING IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND MAYBE THE OTHER ONE WORKING IN BLUFFTON, YOU KNOW SO FOR THAT REASON ALSO PRESERVING THE CAPACITY OF THAT CORRIDOR IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, WE REALLY EMPHASIZED IN OUR LAND USE POLICIES THAT WE RECOGNIZE IT'S A CHALLENGE. BUT YOU STAFF AT THIS POINT DOES NOT RECOMMEND MOVING 
          FORWARD WITH THE ZONING CHANGE AND ROB. >> JUST A QUESTION ON ME WHEN WE RECOGNIZE YOU. OH, OKAY. I RECOGNIZE YOU JUST ON THAT LITTLE DIPS YOU DO ROLL OVER THERE WHERE THE LINE DOTTED LINE COMES OUT IS THAT JASPER 
          COUNTY COMING OVER ONTO THE EAST SIDE OR SOUTH SIDE 170? >> YEAH, THERE IS A LITTLE TIPSY DOODLES LIKE IN THE RIGHT TARGET FATALLY WITH THE LAY CALL IT REALLY SLID AND YOU MOVING AND ALSO FOR STUDENTS AT CHELSEA COMMUNITY TOGETHER SO IT IS ISA JASPER COUNTY THAT 
          CROSSES 170 OVER THERE. >> IS THAT WHERE THE MULTI-FAMILY IS PAST OLDFIELD? 
          >> YES, THE COUNTY AND I THINK THERE IS SOMEBODY PEOPLE THERE IS SOME MULTIFAMILY HANDLE TO DEVELOP THIS IN THE OLD PHIL PD THERE'S SOME TOWNHOUSE IN THE PEABODY. 
          YEAH, COPULATION. >> YEAH. JUST ONE OTHER QUICK CORRECTION 
          I GET ON THE MAP. >> EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LIGHT GREEN AND THE DARK GREEN. I THINK YOU DID BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT IT YEAH. 
          THIRD THEY'RE BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS IMPLEMENT OUR RURAL LAND USE DESIGNATION BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID AND THIS IS GOING BACK SEVERAL YEARS IS THAT HAVING DISTRICT 1 DWELLING IN A 4 3 ACRE DENSITY BECOMES A REAL HARDSHIP FOR PEOPLE WITH SMALLER PROPERTIES. 
          AND SO AT SOME POINT BACK IN THE LATE 90S WHEN OUR ZONING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AUDIENCE 
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WAS ADOPTED WE DID A MAPPING EXERCISE WHERE WE IDENTIFIED WHERE THERE ARE CLUSTERS OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE FIVE ACRES OR LESS IN CERTAIN DARK GREEN FROM WHAT'S THEIR DENSITY THAT THAT DENSITY IS A LITTLE SLIGHTLY LESS OF ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE. 
          BUT WHAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD TO ALLOW SOME YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY EQUITY AND NOT PUT TO TOO MUCH AN UNDUE BURDEN ON SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE RURAL LAND POLICIES. 
          >> THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE A SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THEIR HOME EQUITY OR WE JUST GO 
          ON BUYING MINE. >> WHAT I NOTICED WHEN I WENT TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY 
          YESTERDAY THEY WERE EXTENDING THE RIGHT TURN LANE. >> DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING? OTHERWISE THEY'VE REPAID IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE MADE IT LONGER TO ACCOMMODATE MORE CAUSE. TURNING RIGHT ON TO CALLAWAY I 
          SEE TROY AND I DON'T WANT TO BE RELATED TO THIS. >> IT'S NOT REALLY FRANK. 
          I SAW THAT ON A NUMBER OF SPOTS UP 170. SO THAT MIGHT JUST BE PART SOME. OVERALL I THINK MANY BASE SOMEBODY'S ALWAYS BEEN TRYING TO GET THE ROBOTIC SAY THE HIGH COURT BEFORE THE HORSE OR WHATEVER. 
          YEAH. >> I MAKE NO COMMENT. I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY DOING IT AT THE END WHERE THE GAS STATION IS AND THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT SNAKE ROAD WHERE THERE'S THE DEDICATED RIGHT IN THAT'S I MEAN IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THEY'RE CLARIFYING THIS RIGHT HAND TURN THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS INTERSTATE. SO BUT I DO THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I AGREE ACTUALLY, KEVIN . I THINK IT'S BEEN GOING ON. 
          YEAH. YEAH. MR. LYONS, WE HAVE COME. 
          THANK YOU. FOR NOW. ALWAYS LOOKING LIKE I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE A CHANCE. BUT I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. YOU RECOGNIZE. 
          DO YOU WANT TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM THE OK? YEAH, I'LL WAIT. 
          WANT THE PRESENTATION FROM THE NAPKIN PLEASE. WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF? I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS I WANT TO SAVE MINDS AFTER LEFT. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER TASKING AND I AM HERE AT THE REQUEST OF MY HUSBAND KENTUCKY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF. OKAY AND OUR DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE ARE THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE REASON FOR THE APPLICATION SUBMISSION IS JUST SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TURNED OVER EVERY STONE THAT WE CAN TURN IT OVER BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION WITH REGARD TO THE CAMPGROUND THAT HAS BEEN CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED. WE HAVE SPENT PROBABLY THE BETTER PART OF TWO AND A HALF 
          YEARS SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THIS CAMPGROUND. >> WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL AT THE JUNE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. BUT AFTER THAT MEETING AND TO MAYBE PARAPHRASE MR. MERCHANT SOMETIMES THE BEST LAID PLANS DESERVE TO BE PAUSED WHILE YOU THINK AND BEFORE WE PROCEEDED WITH THE FINAL APPLICATION FOR FINAL APPROVAL WITH THE CAMPGROUND, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS AVAILABLE TO US WHERE WERE 
          ALTERNATIVES THAT WE COULD GENUINELY CONSIDER? >> WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS INCREASES INTO THE CAMPGROUND AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING FORWARD PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY 
          IT FROM US. >> WE'VE ALSO HAD INQUIRIES INTO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OPTION THERE. AGAIN BUILDERS CUSTOM BUILDERS AND MY BUILDERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THE VERY LOW COUNTRY STYLE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE SO I MADE AN APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF JFK AND OUR DEVELOPMENT TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE ASSISTANCE 
          OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >> WE ARE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAMPGROUND. 
          WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF THE PERMITTING AND APPROVALS THAT WE NEED FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE NOT DONE IS MADE FINAL APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE FINAL AND WHAT WE LACK IN DOING THAT IS LOCKING IN THE CAPACITY FEES WOULD BE FOR JASPER THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER AND WHEN WE WRITE THAT CHECK WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CAMPGROUND. 
          WE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACKWARDS. SO HERE I STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE IS A LITTLE UNORTHODOX. 
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THE C 3 REQUEST IS REALLY NOT WHAT WE WANTED BUT IT IS THE ZONE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE FOR SINGLE FAMILY 
          HOMES ON THAT PARCEL. >> AND HERE I STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING I'VE GOT DAN KEEFER AND JEFF AKERMAN WITH ME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT HOW SINGLE FAMILY COUNSELING IMPACT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL. SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND SEE IF I CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON SOME THINGS FOR YOU. 
          YES, MENTIONED CAPACITY THINGS . YES. 
          WELL, WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? SO WITH THE CAMPGROUND THEY THEY DO A CALCULATION FOR THE USAGE OF WATER AND SEWER WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO THE SITE. AND WE HAVE TO PAY THAT NOW AS PART OF THE FINAL APPLICATION, THE FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO GET THE APPROVAL GOING FORWARD. SO THAT HAS TO BE PAID THEN WE TAKE THAT CERTIFICATE TO THE ON WITH THE FINAL APPLICATION AND THE FINAL APPROVAL IS SIGNED OFF ON. 
          >> BANKS HAVE QUESTIONS. MRS. PARSKY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME. 
          >> YES. I FEEL USED. YOU'VE GOT THE CAMPGROUND YOU GO TO THE C. WHAT'S IT GONNA BE? I'D NEVER IN MY I'M A PLANNER. 
          I'VE NEVER IN MY EXPERIENCE HAD A CLIENT OR AN APPLICANT OR OR I THINK I'M THE LONGEST SITTING PERSON ON THIS ON THIS BOARD HERE GO THROUGH TWO PROCESSES AT THE SAME TIME AND PERSONALLY I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND I'M DISAPPOINTED I DON'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY HERE FOR THE COUNTY AND AS A RESULT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS THIS A LEGAL ACTION FOR US TO CONSIDER YOUR APPLICATION WHILE YOU'VE GOT A PENDING APPLICATION AND PENDING LITIGATION? I UNDERSTAND ALSO CORRECT? OH NO I DON'T HAVE PENDING LITIGATION AGAINST STATE. 
          >> I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH AND I'M NOT PART OF LITIGATION BUT . 
          BUT THERE IS PENDING LITIGATION AGAINST YOU ALL AS I UNDERSTAND. 
          >> NO, NO PENDING LIKE CIRCUIT COURT AGAINST MY UNDERSTANDING IS AGAINST THE COUNTY THE APPELLANTS WHO HAVE FOUGHT THE CAMP BROWN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THE JUNE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING I UNDERSTAND FILED AN ACTION A COUPLE OF ACTIONS IN CIRCUIT 
          COURT. >> SO WHILE WE ARE NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THAT, WE'RE ALSO VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY COULD BE IN A SITUATION THAT IF 
          WE MOVE FORWARD. >> WHO KNOWS? NO. 
          I MEAN WE ARE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CAMPGROUND AND HONESTLY IT'S NOT THE CAMPGROUND THAT WE HAD ENVISIONED ON THE PROPERTY WHAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN 90 DAYS TO GET AN APPROVAL IN 2019 HAS BEEN PREPLANNED AND REDRAWN. AND HERE WE SIT TODAY AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD EVER CONSIDERED FOR THE PARCEL WHEN WE BOUGHT THE LAND WE BOUGHT IT WITH THE INTENTION OF DOING A CAMPGROUND. 
          >> THAT'S HOW IT WAS SOLD TO US . THERE WAS A SIGN ON THE 
          PROPERTY THAT SAID CALABASAS CAMPGROUND WE DID OUR HOMEWORK. >> THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LAND BIBLE, THE CDC SAID THAT A CAMPGROUND WAS A PERMITTED USE. IT SAID THAT EMI DEVELOPED CAMPGROUND AT A PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND WERE PERMITTED USES . 
          WE WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. WE DECIDED THAT SEMI DEVELOPED SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO ON THE PROPERTY WE HAD LIMITED THE NUMBER OF RV SIGNS I THINK WE WERE CAPPED AT ONE HUNDRED TEN. WE HAD HUGE BUFFERS. WE HAD PLANNED FOR GAS GATES, EXECUTION, GAS AND GATES. YOU'D NEVER SEEN AN RV. IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED AS FAR AS YOU KNOW. THE ACTIVITY ON THIS SITE WAS HEAVILY BUFFERED REALLY NICE STATE OF THE ART FACILITY. WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT FINAL APPROVAL FOR THAT CAMPGROUND THERE WAS AN APPEAL FILED. AND AT THAT POINT. AND I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND WE WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD. BUT AT THAT POINT WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS SOME UNDEVELOPED CAMP BROWN WAS NOT A PERMITTED USE THAT THIS THAT THERE WAS CONFLICT WITHIN THE CODE ITSELF AND SOME SMALL CONFLICT WAS BROUGHT UP AND WE DECIDED NOT TO FIGHT IT. 
          >> I MEAN HERE WE WERE SITTING AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ME PERSONALLY, I'M NOT A 
          CONTENTIOUS PERSON. >> YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY TO DO THINGS UP, I'LL LOOK AT IT. I'LL DO SO. WE WERE TOLD THAT YOU CANNOT DO SO MIGHT DEVELOP THE APPEAL ACTUALLY SAID YOU MUST DO A PRIMITIVE CAMP RULE. 
          YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. YOU MUST DO PRIMITIVE. IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT THE ECONOMY WAS CHANGING. COVE IT WAS HITTING. I DID SOME SOME RESEARCH AND 
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SOME STUDY AND FOUND OUT THAT THE PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS WERE ACTUALLY CARRYING ABOUT 55 
          PERCENT OF THE MARKET FOR CAMPGROUNDS RIGHT NOW. >> NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR RV BUT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A POP UP CAMPER OR A TENT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MANAGE. 
          SO IT IT'S A BURGEONING INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. THE GLAMOR PINK IS WHAT'S ALL THE RAGE THESE CANVAS TENTS ON RAISED BASIS. SO WE THOUGHT OK, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE UP AND DENSITY WHAT WE WERE LOSING 
          WITH THE LARGER RV SITES AND THERE IS NO CAP. >> UNDER THE COUNTY DESIGN GUIDELINES YOU CAN PUT AS MANY SITES AS YOU CAN FIT ON THE SITE YOUR RESTRICTIONS ARE VERY LIMITED. YOUR BUFFERS WENT TO NEXT TO NOTHING. 
          AND WE THOUGHT WELL THIS KIND OF SEEMS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO WHAT OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS. 
          BUT IF THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. SO WE DESIGN ACCORDINGLY AND THEN AFTER THAT JUNE MEETING I WAS APPROACHED BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS AREA. 
          I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT WILL STAND BEFORE YOU AND SAY MY LINEAGE GOES BACK TO THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES HERE IN THE LOWCOUNTRY. MY MOTHER IS A THOSE OF A CHEROKEE NATIVE AMERICAN LINEAGE. SO I'VE BEEN HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE EONS OF GENERATIONS. 
          SO I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH AND I'VE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND I HAVE FAMILY IN THAT AREA DOWN THERE ALONG CHECHESSEE AND OKATIE IN TALLAHASSEE. I GREW A CALABAR. 
          SHE WASN'T CARLOS SO I WAS CONTACTED AND SAID HEY, WHY DON'T YOU DO A SINGLE FAMILY 
          DEVELOPMENT? >> AND I'M LIKE OKAY. I REALLY THOUGHT I COULD. 
          SO I NEVER ASKED THE QUESTION BUT THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I WENT BACK TO THE TWO HOUR ZONE REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY THE DENSITY JUST WASN'T 
          FEASIBLE. >> IT'S NOT THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. 
          IT'S JUST BY THE TIME YOU DEVELOP A 56 ACRE PARCEL FOR 18 HOMES, THE COST OF THAT DEVELOPMENT PER THE GUIDELINES YOU LOSE MONEY, YOU LOSE MONEY OR YOU BREAK EVEN. 
          AND AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO STAND HERE AND SAY I'M NOBLE AND I DON'T DO THIS FOR INCOME, I DO DO IT FOR SOME INCOME. I MEAN THAT'S WHERE BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS AND THE CAMPGROUND YOU SO WE BACKED UP AND THE CAMPGROUND WAS OUR RETIREMENT. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO KIND OF GO OUT ON A BANG WITH AND I STARTED LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND I SAID WELL MAYBE PERHAPS IF I CAN GET A REASON OF THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN INTRODUCE A SINGLE FAMILY PLAN THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE USE. AND IT MAKES SENSE THEN WHY NOT TRY TO PURSUE IT? SO IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO MAKE YOU FEEL USED ARE TO YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE KNOW FULL WELL WHAT WE WERE PLANNING TO GO FORWARD WITH AND THAT IS A CAMPGROUND. AND AT THIS POINT A PRIMITIVE CAMP BROWN. YOU KNOW, WE'VE PAID A LOT OF MONEY IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO GET TO A CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL ON THE CAMPGROUND AND BEFORE WE PAID A LOT MORE MONEY TO USE SECURE THAT CAPACITY CERTIFICATE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THOSE FEES WOULD BE 
          NONREFUNDABLE OR TRANSFERABLE OR ARE WHAT THEY WOULD BE. >> I THOUGHT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL GIVE THIS A SHOT AND I REALLY WANTED TO GET BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH BUT WE MISSED THE DEADLINE. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO GET BEFORE YOU AND I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ZONE TO ASK FOR THE YOUNG THE C 3 ZONE SEEMED TO FIT THE SIDES OF THE LOT. IT GAVE US DEPTH IN THE LOT WHICH ALSO MADE THE BUFFER FROM 
          THE PERIMETER EVEN WIDER. >> WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD ENTER INTO ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT MADE SENSE AND LIMITED WHAT WE DID THERE AND BEING FROM THIS AREA AND WATCHING THE GROWTH OVER THE DECADES YOU KNOW TO HAVE A SMALLER WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE USE THAT WOULD APPEAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          >> SO THE C3 ZONE WAS A REQUEST TO SAY HEY WE'RE ASKING FOR C 3 BUT WE'RE GOING TO CAP WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO SEND IT ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'VE BEEN GET SERIOUS ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND LIMIT WHAT WE DO WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THAT AGREEMENT. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE WOULD GIVE UP THE RIGHTS TO THE CAMPGROUND AND UNDER THE TEAM TO ARE AND 
          GO FROM THERE. >> BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH A SHOT TO ASK BEFORE WE GET TOO 
          FAR DOWN THE ROAD OF NOT BEING ABLE TO TURN BACK RIGHT. >> COMMENTS ON SO WE'RE TALKING 
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          ABOUT FIFTY SIX ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY, 110 HOMES. >> SO WITH THIS INCLUDE AN AGE AWAY IT WOULD INCLUDE AN HLA AND I WON'T IF YOU DON'T MIND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM FOR WHO IS THE LAND PLANNER COME UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS BECAUSE I DO KNOW AFTER SPEAKING WITH DAN THAT EVEN AT ONE HUNDRED TOWN THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER. 
          >> I DON'T THINK BY THE TIME WE FACTORED IN OPEN SPACE AND STORMWATER BUFFERS THAT WE'D EVEN END UP WITH WE'D PROBABLY MAX OUT AROUND 85 OR 90. BUT JEFF AKERMAN AND DAN KEEFE ARE HERE TO KIND OF ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          YEAH, YEAH. BUT AS FAR AS MY DAD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 
          DAN KEEFER, WITMER JONES KIEFER, THANK YOU. >> AS FAR AS OUR NEXT STEP, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE PLANNING EFFORT. AND IN TERMS OF GETTING FROM THIS STEP TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE WE CAN GO FROM SEED SEE THROUGH YOU'RE SORT OF THE STARTING POINT AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IF WE GO SEE THREE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THE RESIDENTIAL WANTS TO SEE THROUGH IT'S SEVENTY FIVE 70 FOOT WIDE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND THERE'S THERE'S SQUARE FOOTAGE MINIMAL IT'S AROUND ELEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 70 FOOT BY HUNDRED SIXTY FOOT RIBAUT AND IS AGAIN AS PART OF THE NEXT STEP. WE LOOK EXISTING TO RECOVER NATURAL RESOURCES WETLANDS AND AS WE START TO LOOK AT THAT WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FULLY INTO WATERFALL ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE AMBULATORY ONE AND PROBABLY LOWER THAN 100 UNITS IF WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS. IT'S REALLY JUST THE FIRST STEP IF WE SEE THREE THERE WAS ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS JUST RESIDENTIAL THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THIS WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR THREE IF WE COULD DO THE PD IS THE MAP THAT ROB WAS SHOWING BACKWARD AREAS OF TALLAHASSEE, SPRING ISLAND AND OLDFIELD. 
          >> THOSE ARE BD SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE. ONCE WE OVERLAY THAT C3 AND THE DEVELOPMENT ROOM IT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE A BEAUTY. WE CAN'T ASK FOR THAT TONIGHT AND SEE THROUGH IS OUR STARTING POINT AND THEN IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS BETTER WELL LOG ABOUT IT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE PROCESS TO ANSWER ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'RE NOT REALLY WE'RE SORT OF OR WE'RE AHEAD OF OURSELVES BY EVEN HAVING A PLAN OR AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF GETTING TO THE NEXT STEP TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO START HERE WITH THE C3 THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO C3 AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHILE LOT WILL OUTLINE MAXIMUM DENSITIES BUFFERS OR INCREASED BUFFERS IF THERE IS IF THAT'S THE CASE IN ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS BEYOND WHAT C3 ALLOWS TO MORE OF A STRAIGHT THROUGH BOTH MULTIFAMILY THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE TAKEN OFF THE LIST. 
          >> YOU MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. COOPER. YEAH, I MEAN IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION. IT'S KIND OF COMMENTS. YOU KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE RUN INTO AS WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS UP ZONING AND THEN SOME POINT PROPERTY SOLD SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AND I DO FEEL LIKE THAT BOTH THE GENUINE AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE ALL HEARD THIS ALREADY BUT IT'S NOT JUST AS EASY AS SAYING HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A LOT OF . AND WE CAN TAKE YOUR WORD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THE PD ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE I MEAN THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE BUT I JUST WANT TO ADD I UNDERSTAND ON OUR END THAT THERE'S A LOT OF EXTENUATING FACTORS UNDERSTANDING WITH THAT CAME UP AT SOME POINT IN THE CONVERSATION AND I'M NOT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH OF THE ATTORNEYS SUGGESTED IT BUT CERTAINLY DEED RESTRICTIONS AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE AND THEN IF IT WAS NOT COMPLETED 
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WITHIN THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS THAT THE PROPERTY THEM THEN REVERT TO THE DATE YOU ARE I CAN TELL YOU AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD ONE YEAR 
          I CONSIDER. >> YEAH. >> AND YOU KNOW IF LIKE I SAID IF IT WAS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL PROVIDED WE ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED THEN THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE DAN SAID ONE MORE STEP CLOSER TO GETTING EVERYTHING KIND OF NAILED DOWN. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF DRAFTING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF YOU GUYS JUST SAW NO HOPE FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT THE ENDORSEMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE WANTED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE COUNCIL PART . 
          BUT IF IT WAS JUST A FLAT NO THEN THAT GAVE US DIRECTION AND I PUT AT THAT POINT FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN IN OUR POWER TO TO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY SECRET THAT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE DOES NOT WANT US TO DO A CAMERA. I MEAN I'VE SEEN A PETITION WITH ALMOST 4000 SIGNATURES ON 
          IT. >> I'VE HAD NICE AND NOT SO NICE PHONE CALLS FROM FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LIKE I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GREW UP HERE AND YOU DO THIS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S AGAIN, WE WERE ABIDING BY THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE WE'VE 
          GONE DOWN THE ROAD OF LAND TRUST CONSERVATION EASEMENT. >> THE PROPERTY WAS DEEMED INELIGIBLE UNDER THE NATURAL RESOURCES GUIDELINES AS AS BEING CRITICAL LANDS. 
          SO WE WERE TURNED AWAY AT THAT LEVEL FOR ANY TYPE CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE INTO AND WE KNEW THAT ASKING WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD PUT YOU OUT OF A COMFORT ZONE POTENTIALLY. BUT IF WE BROUGHT YOU BACK INTO THE COMFORT ZONE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND VERY STRICT DEED RESTRICTIONS AND A TIMELINE OF PERFORMANCE OR IT REVERTS THAT'S WHAT WE WERE KIND OF HOPING WE WE'D GET CONSIDERED THAT THE NEIGHBORS INSERT ANY COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, ANY WAY YOU WANT TO 
          SHARE WITH US ABOUT THE OUT? >> AS YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH BORDER OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE FIRST TIME I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THEM AFTER THE JUNE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF OUR ATTORNEYS I THINK. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND EXPLAIN WHAT I WAS DOING. 
          I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SEE A REASON SIGN GO UP AND GO WHAT IS WHAT IS SHE CRAZY? THE INITIAL FEEDBACK WAS THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE WERE DOING THERE AND IT WAS A VERY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THEM AT THE TIME BUT AT LEAST I WAS LEFT WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THEM. 
          AND IN LOOKING AT THIS. SO THAT KIND OF GAVE ME THE HOPE TO GO FORWARD AND MEET WITH DAN AND JEFF AKERMAN WAS WORK UP SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE 
          USE BY AS I SEE. >> I'M LOOKING AT YOUR MAP HERE AND LOOKING AT THE TWO DIFFERENT MAPS OVER HERE. AND AFTER WHAT ROB WAS EXPLAINING TO US, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DARK GREEN, THE LIGHT GREEN AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT TAKEN THE WRONG WAY. IT'S AND THIS IS NOT A WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL. BUT I I WOULD JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I COULD NEV ALOT EXCEEDED THE DARK GREEN IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KEEP SOME STANDARD, YOU KNOW. AND I'M JUST AND I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD AND I'M NOT SAYING YES OR NO TO ANYTHING BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT TAKING A PIECE OF PROPERTY 
          AND CHANGING THAT GRAIN TO A BRIGHT YELLOW. >> THAT'S ONE THING. 
          CHANGING IT TO ANOTHER POSSIBLE SHADE OF GREEN. I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN THAT WOULD I GUESS AND THE OTHER DAY I ASKED ABOUT THE AGE AWAY AND THE REASON WHY YOU ASK IS IS THERE A THRESHOLD WHERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN AGE AWAY IS GOING TO BE WATER AND SEWER IN HERE? YES, THERE'S WATER IN THERE AND THEY'RE REALLY IN THERE. THERE IS PLANNED WATER AND SEWER FOR THE CAMPGROUND. 
          AND BY CONTRAST, THE CAMPGROUND ISN'T WE'VE ONLY SAW THE APPROVAL FOR THE PHASE 1 
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SECTION OF THE CAMPGROUND WHICH IS THE FRONT SECTION AND AS IT AS IT IS CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED TODAY THERE ARE 350 CAMPSITES AGAIN THE BACK PARCEL OF 36 ACRES WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING RIGHT NOW COULD POTENTIALLY BE ANOTHER 400 CAMPSITES. 
          >> SO BY YOU KNOW AND IN THAT ASPECT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THE SITE UNDER THAT TAKE TO ARE ZONED THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS THE CAMPGROUND PROBABLY FOLLOWED BY THE TRANSFER STATION WHICH IS A PERMITTED USE UNDER AND TEACH YOU ARE WE HAVING CONTACT SOME WASTE COMPANIES? WE JUST DIDN'T ENTERTAIN IT. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS WITHIN THE TEA TO ARE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IT'S IT'S HARD. 
          IT'S NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON SO TO SPEAK. SO AND THE TEA TO OUR END ZONE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SO AND AND WE CAN REMEMBER WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ZONING WE TALKED ABOUT C3 AND I THINK IT WAS A LOT SIZE IN C 3 THAT REALLY APPEALED TO ME BECAUSE OF ITS 
          DEBT. >> AND YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT AT THAT POINT IF WE SELF CAP THE NUMBER OF LOCKS WITHIN C3 THAT MIGHT BE THE BETTER ALTERNATIVE IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO SINGLE 
          THING IN AND THIS COULD INCLUDE ROB. >> WELL I'M DENNIS BUT LINCOLN I'M IN THE TTR AND REALLY NOT SET UP FOR LARGER PARCELS AS MUCH BUT ALL WHAT? WHAT WAS YOUR PLAN? WHAT ABOUT THE LARGE SIZE DIDN'T WORK WITH THE T TO OR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER GUESS IT WAS THE DENSITY THAT I THINK WE CAPPED OUT AT SIXTY SEVEN LOTS SIXTY FIVE BLOCKS SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE AND THEN BY THE TIME DAN LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND WHATNOT IT COULD HAVE SAID A NUMBER THAT BECAME AGAIN NOT FEASIBLE THE COST TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR FORTY TO SIXTY SEVEN LOTS AND 
          85 TO 90 LOTS. >> AS YOU KNOW IT'S YOU HAVE A LOT OF BASE COSTS THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WE AT THAT POINT WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF STEPPING BACK AND GOING BACK TO THE CAMPGROUND. IT WAS IT WOULD JUST MEAN THAT THAT NUMBER OF 85 90 LOTS WAS THAT SWEET SPOT THAT MADE IT MORE NOT AS LUCRATIVE AS THE CAMPGROUND BUT MADE IT WORK. 
          >> ONE MORE QUESTION I'LL CONSIDER A MIXTURE OF CAMPGROUNDS AND RESIDENTIAL USE EVEN IF YOU HAD TO COOK, YOU KNOW, A CARETAKERS PORTION KNOW SOMEBODY WAS LIVING THERE THAT WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT. I MEAN IT'S I'M NOT JUST THROWING STUFF OUT THERE. 
          PRIMITIVE GUIDELINES ARE VERY SPECIFIC JUST TO SHE YOU KNOW, WE HAD EVEN A HARD TIME GETTING THE THE BATH HOUSES AND AND COMMON BUILDINGS APPROVED UNDER THAT PLAN. 
          >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD MIX IT HER AND I COULD BE WRONG BUT I'LL CHECK THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT AND I ENVISION WHEN I THINK OF SINGLE FAMILY THERE I POSITION A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT A GATED COMMUNITY BUT SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME PASSIVE OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THE TRADITIONAL LOW COUNTRY ARCHITECTURE HOMES THAT THAT YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE A VERY MINIATURE HABERSHAM STYLE COMMUNITY THERE WHICH WOULD BE A NICE IN MY OPINION. 
          I KNOW I'M NOT ON THE GOVERNING PANEL BUT TRANSITION FROM 170 TO THAT AND THAT COMMUNITY AND THEN ON FURTHER BACK TO TO MIKE DRIVE AND HAYWARD POINT AND THE GOLF CLUB AND CALLAWAY TO SEE IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW IT'S ONE MORE TWO MORE OF A STATEMENT THAT I CAN SAY THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO COME IN OR TRY TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM. 
          TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU GET FRUSTRATED LEAVE AND SOMEBODY ELSE COMES AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SO GOOD FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE SAME PARTS. SO THAT'S ONE THING. EVERYONE INCLUDING THE NEIGHBORS I KNOW THAT THIS IS CONTENTIOUS BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT SOMETIMES THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND THAT'S PART BE ADVISED. 
          >> AND WHILE WE CAN CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SITE, IT'S UNDER OUR CONTROL TO MANAGE IT AS BEST WE CAN. WE CAN PUT THE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE. 
          WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT MIGHT BE MORE POWER PORTABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORS. 
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          THANK YOU, ROB. >> WITHOUT CAN I GET THE CLIFF'S NOTES VERSION OF WHY THE LUXURY PART THE ONE YOU JUST DESCRIBED MUST ASK YOU THE SAME I DEVELOPED YEAH. 
          WHAT WAS THERE IS THERE WERE CLIFF NOTES VERSION I GUESS FROM WHERE YOU COME FORWARD FOR THE RECORD COMMENTS FROM THE RECORD DOES HE RECOMMEND START ANSWERING THAT QUESTION? I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET MIRED IN SIT DETAILS OF CAMP GROUNDS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS MEETING. YOU KNOW THAT BIT I MEAN I'M WILLING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BUT THIS IS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A RESOUNDING FROM T TO RURAL TO SEE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS I GUESS LET ME LET ME GIVE THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING OK, CAUSE THE RESORT IS THE QUOTE THAT LUXURY PARK OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT ADVANCE SOMETHING COULD THAT 
          GOING TO SEE THREE? >> NO. NONE OF THE CAMPGROUNDS ARE 
          ALLOWED TO SEE THREE DISTRICT OK. >> YEAH. 
          THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REALLY CONSIDER THIS AS A STRAIGHTFORWARD REZONING DEED RESTRICTIONS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW YOU KNOW A DECISION MADE AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD REZONING. THOSE ARE EXTRA THINGS THAT COULD OCCUR THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY TO OCCUR. YOU KNOW, BASED LAND A CORPORATION. RIGHT. THEY CAN'T AND I'M NOT AWARE AND I YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO SEEK LEGAL OPINION BUT I'M NOT AWARE THAT YOU COULD USE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO REVERSE THE ZONING DOWN TO ORIGINALLY BECAUSE THAT'S TYING THE HANDS OF IT'S BASICALLY COUNSEL A FUTURE COUNSEL HAVE TO TAKE ACTION TO DO SOMETHING WHEN YOU CHANGE THE MAP YOU'RE YOU'RE CHANGING THE ORDINANCE AND I'M NOT AWARE THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COULD HAVE OUR MAKE SOMETHING AUTOMATICALLY REVERT BACK TO 
          WHAT IT WAS. >> I JUST THINK THE VISITS ARE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AND MAKING DECISION TO LOOK AT THIS AS A STRAIGHTFORWARD REZONING. 
          I THINK THAT THERE I AGREE THAT THE OWNER MAY HAVE VERY GOOD INTENTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY BUT NONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW THE ONLY THINGS WE HAVE CONTROL OVER ARE WHAT THE PROPOSED THE EXISTING 17 AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED ON THIS 
          MOVEMENT. >> I RESPECT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE MATTER ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS THE ZONING BUT I STILL HAVE THIS CLOUD OR THE START ARE THEY GOING TO IS IS A AND ALL DUE RESPECT, MY JOB HERE IS PART OF THEIR STRATEGY TO GO BACK TO THE CAMPGROUND WHICH YOU SO DEARLY WANTS AND BY PASSING THIS ZONING MAY ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. SO AGAIN, I'M ALSO HOPING THAT WE'D HAVE SOME LEGAL COUNSEL HERE AND WE DON'T AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK EXACTLY WHERE DOES THE REQUEST FOR THE CAMPGROUND STAND RIGHT NOW WOULD BE FOR COUNTY AND APPROVE OR NOT 
          APPROVE? >> WELL, I WILL SAY THAT THE CHANGE IN ZONING TO SEE 3 ONE THING THAT I COULD SAY FOR CERTAIN IS THAT THE C 3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROVISIONS FOR CAMPGROUNDS AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THE STATUS 
          OF THE CAMPGROUND. >> THE APPEAL AND WHERE THAT IS IN ITS PROCESS. 
          OK, SO WE WOULD NEED THE LEGAL COUNSEL THERE AND WITH POINT OF THE PD THE FAVORITE POINT IS A BASICALLY WAS APPROVED UNDER THE WORLD ZONING SAID THE DENSITY OF HAYWARD POINT THERE'S A LOT OF PRESERVED OPEN SPACE WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENTS AND THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS 
          MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE WETLANDS. >> WELL IT'S ALSO BECAUSE IT WAS THE RURAL ZONING WAS IN PLACE AT THE TIME BEFORE HAYWARD POINT WAS DEVELOPED. 
          >> SO THEY DID NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO DO A PEABODY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND UNDER THE SEA TO WORK OTHER NON RESIDENTIAL USERS ARE PERMITTED. 
          >> AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT CAN THAT BE? >> WELL, THERE ARE SOME NON RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWED IN THE C3 DISTRICT. MOST OF THEM HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR BEING LOCATED ON MAJOR COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL. AND I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH 
          SOME OF THOSE. >> I WOULD SAY THAT FOR THIS SITE THE MOST LIKELY TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS IN OBVIOUSLY THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WHICH COULD GO UP TO TWO POINT SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE THAT ESTIMATE OF ABOUT REMEMBER THE 
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TOTAL NUMBER IS ABOUT 130 UNITS. THERE IS AN OPTION FOR A TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY PLAN. I BELIEVE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE WHICH COULD ALLOW US SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN THAT. AND THAT IS A MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT MORE OF A TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY LIKE HABERSHAM, YOU KNOW, WITH SIDEWALKS AND PORCHES AND THE LIKE THAT HAS VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW THE COMMUNITY IS LAID OUT. 
          >> SO THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE BUT PRIMARILY THAT'S A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. 
          >> QUICK QUESTION YOU'VE BEEN THINKING BECAUSE FROM ZONING MORE OF APPEALS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LET TO DO A WAIVER FOR THEM TO DO SIMILAR PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND OR IS THAT HOW WOULD THAT WORK IF THEY IF THEY WANTED TO STAY WITH T T2 AND THEN MOVE TO THE MORE BIG RV STYLE CAMPGROUND? IS THAT IS THAT AN AVENUE THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE? WELL, I DON'T EVEN I'M NOT REALLY PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THAT. 
          >> IT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT TO THE ZONING THAT WE CAN PUT. I MEAN THEY DO HAVE THAT THERE IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND. 
          THANK YOU. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'VE HAD WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT TO SOME IMPORTANT BUSINESS THAT WE WILL CONDUCT TONIGHT. 
          SO I'LL JUST TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME HERE. IF I MAY, MIKE COMES SENIOR THOMAS MY WAY THROUGH IT AND I'M SORRY. THAT WAS MY MEETING WITH 
          THOMAS. >> AND MY FAMILY. RIGHT. 
          I DON'T WANT THE PROPERTY DOWN MY DRIVE ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          NOW LET ME SAY THIS. THE TASK FORCE REPRESENTED THEM . 
          I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOU GUYS. EVERYBODY BUILT THE PROPERTY BUT WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE ZONING THAT'S IN THE AREA THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT WAS DUMPED HERE TO MY LEFT AND BY YOU GUYS IN AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY ZONING COUNTY IN THE CURRENT COUNTY ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW FOR HIGH DENSITY AND THAT IT'S ZONED FOR ROAD RESIDENTIAL YEARS BACK I SPENT TWO TERMS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOUR POSITION AND MEN WE. 
          AND AS YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED BODY TO COUNTY COUNCIL WHEN WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT. NOW I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE BY ALLOWING THIS ZONING TO TAKE PLACE AND BEING REQUESTED. 
          THAT'S JUST AN OLD FOGEY THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO DEVELOP. WE BOTH KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO OPEN A FLOODGATE TO DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS 
          NEIGHBORHOOD. >> IT'S NOT CONSISTENT AT ALL. NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT RELEVANT TO MCCLOSKEY AGAIN THAT SHE HAS A VESTED INTEREST WILL I HAVE A GREAT INTEREST IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN DOWN HERE IN OUR FAMILY ALL I PROMISE WE WILL HAVE LOOK 100 YEARS AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SIT HERE AND ALLOW SIT BACK AND WATCH IT ON TELEVISION AND WATCH THIS DEVELOPMENT CHANGE. I MEAN JUST TOTAL CHANGE TO HOLD UP TO A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED ON MY WATCH. NOT AS LONG AS THEY RAN THAT STREET AND WHEN THE NUMBERS HAS 
          THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A NOW. >> THERE ARE SOME OTHER PLACES PEOPLE COUNTY AND ONE CAN GO OUT AND BUY AND PURCHASE AND DEVELOP THAT. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP IT RIGHT THERE. BRUTAL RELATIVE TO DEATH MARICOPA COUNTY WISHES MARIN COUNTY ZONING. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE FOR THIS BACKDOOR APPROACH. TRY TO GET MORE DEFINITE TO GET MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AS WELL. AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED NOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR RECOMMENDATION THE COUNTY COUNCIL. REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE A DEATH TO FALL AND THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RULE RESIDENTIAL 3 3 0 0 0 TEETH REAL SORRY TEETH T2 AND NOT THE SAME THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MAXFIELD THAT DOESN'T ALLOW ITSELF TO THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO ITSELF TO WHAT WE OWE MIKE RIGHT HERE ONE POINT CALLER WAS A COMMITTEE DESIGN. 
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AND I CAN PERSONALLY SPEAK FOR US BOTH OF US ON MY DRIVE AND I FEEL I MUST SAY I CAN SPEAK FOR HE WOULD PLAY A DECENT PROFIT ON US THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION IN EVER DECIDING RECOMMENDED BODY FOR COUNTY COUNCIL. REMEMBER THAT IS WHAT YOU GO BY THE CURRENT ZONING THAT REFLECT THE VISION A DIFFERENT COUNTY FOR THAT AREA AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE NOTHING ELSE. NOW THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MIKE. 
          THANK WILLIAM MURPHY. YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD WHEN YOU COMPORT YOU AND 
          YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING. >> THANK YOU FOR MY OPPORTUNITY . MY NAME IS WILLIAM MUSIC. I LIVE IN HAYWARD BOY AND VOLUNTEERS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND FOR ABOUT A YEAR FIRE MARSHALL SAID NO HE COULD ME IN A CAMP FOR HIM TO GO IN THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TWO ENTER AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THEY GOT A VERY SMALL ROAD FRONTAGE. NOW REMEMBER IT WAS SOMETIME IN THE VERY NEAR PAST FUTURE THAT THAT STORM CAME THROUGH BEAUFORT AND THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS ONLY ON STATE HIGHWAY WHICH OUR HIGH DENSITY MAIN DEVELOPMENT POWER CA POWERLINES CAME DOWN. CHAIRS BARBARA AND GROUP WENT OUT THERE AND YOU COULDN'T YOU AN UP OR DOWN THAT HIGHWAY. AND THE PEOPLE THOSE FARMERS COULDN'T GET IN OUR HOUSE. 
          BAQUBAH COULDN'T GET IN OR OUT. POWER'S PATIENT HAD OPEN HEART SURGERY THREE YEARS AGO. 
          I KNOW EVERY SECOND COUNTS. >> SO YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS WHEN FIRE 
          MARSHAL WILL SAYING YOU GOT TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES TO THE GYM. >> ME HE SAID OH WELL HE SPLIT RIGHT HERE NEXT TO HIM. JUST I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEN THE PROOF IN THE PUDDING IS WHEN THE STORM CAME THERE IS NO WAY I COULD GET OUT OF THOSE APARTMENTS UP THERE. 
          IT'S A CUT TO FIGURE THAT MORE AND THEY WERE BLED TO DEATH BECAUSE NOBODY COULD GET IT OUT. SO I'M JUST SAYING AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS. 
          I'VE MADE A CAREER HERDING CATS . I WAS AN ENGINEER AT THE NAVY HOSPITAL. I GET FEDERAL FUNDS TO KEEP DOCTORS HAPPY AND PATIENTS HAVE BEEN. I UNDERSTAND YOU'LL HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT JOB AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M AN EXPERT IN WHICH I DO. I'M JUST SAYING I'VE HEARD A LOT ON THIS. I'M CONCERNED WITH SAFETY. I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY HEY, WE NEED SEATBELTS ON EVERY GOLF CART COMING OFF NOW AND EVERY GOLF CART THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED VOLUNTEERED BY DEAD . I DON'T WANT SAY GOODBYE DIE. 
          OK. WHY KEEP IT SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT JUST WARN THE HALF OF THAT TO GET CHANGED? WHEN HE WAS THE FIRE MARSHAL WAS DEAD SAID THAT HAD TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES TO. WELL, WE JUST POSED FOR THE DRIVEWAY UP FRONT. 
          >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JESSE WHITE EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JESSE WHITE. ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS REZONING AS LAID OUT IN A STOP REPORT. THIS UP ZONING REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE DRAFT 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DENSITY AND IT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE EXISTING LAND USES OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL GOLF COURSES AND FORESTRY AND AS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED BY ALLOWING THIS REZONING TO OCCUR IT WILL LEAD TO SUBSEQUENT REASONINGS. AND ON ADJOINING PARCELS AND TAKEN TOGETHER WE'LL BEGIN TO CHANGE THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THIS AREA AND IT WILL PLACE 
          FURTHER STRAIN ON THE ALREADY STRAINED SC 170 CORRIDOR. >> THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INTENTIONALLY DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS RURAL AND IT DID SO TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THOSE STRAINS TO MINIMIZE THE STRAINS IN THE SCHOOLS SCHOOL'S SCHOOL SYSTEMS FEELING THAT OUR WATER QUALITY IN OUR RIVERS THE MAIN RIVER IN PARTICULAR AND THE OKATIE RIVER ARE FEELING AND IT'S IMPORTANT 
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THAT THOSE POLICIES WHEN THEY'RE PASSED AND ADOPTED AND BE UPHELD BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM FOR A REASON. BUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCES AND IF THEY'RE IGNORED AT THE REQUEST OF A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THEN THEIR UNDERLYING INTENT IS IS ERODED AND ENFORCEMENT OF FUTURE POLICIES AND ZONING STANDARDS WILL ALSO BE ERODED. SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS WE AGREE WITH PLANNING STAFF AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS REZONING BE DENIED. 
          >> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, SHE SENT A LETTER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS PART OF THE REPORT. THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FOREVER. WELL, WE'D LIKE IT. WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT. 
          I'VE GOT DEBRA WHOLE BOOK THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON. SHE HERE ON TURKEY FARMS AND THAT'S BEEN PULLED OFF AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. BUT I WILL KEEP THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND PASS IT ON TO THE CHECK TO THE CHAIRMAN. SO IF SHE WANTS TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME I ALWAYS LIKE TO GIVE THE APPLICANT ONE MORE BITE AT THE APPLE AND BE THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK. SO IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE UP HERE OR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZENS THAT I'VE SPOKEN, NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY. 
          CHAIRMAN JAMES, THANK YOU FOR THOUGH I THINK I'D LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE DEBTS FROM THE DENSITY QUESTION. THAT'S WHERE THE DC 3S EARNING AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY FORMAT DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT. 
          THAT'S WHERE DENSITY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THEY WANT TO SEE THREE IN TAP AND C THEORY IS AS FAR AS THAT. THE OTHER MULTIFAMILY USES AND TOWNHOMES THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT AS FAR AS OUR DENSITY AND PRESERVATION NATURAL RESOURCES WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO BASED ON ONE THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES ON PROPERTY. 
          AND AS FAR AS THE OTHER COMMENT IN REGARDS TO ACCESS POINTS WE WE WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR SECONDARY ACCESS POINTS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING INTO AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK THROUGH AS WE GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE PLANNING OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE CERTAINLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION SOMETHING WE 
          WOULD WORK ON. GOOD EVENING MR. VISE CHAIRMAN. >> MY NAME'S ANGELICA CALDWELL. 
          I'M HERE. I'M FROM NEXIUM PRUITT AND CHARLESTON AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPERS. CHERYL SHIELDS HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN HERE AND I THINK NICOLE SCOTT WHO ARE TWO OF MY COLLEAGUES, BOTH OF WHOM GOT CALLED WAY. 
          SO I'M HERE TO FILL IN. I'M JUST HERE TO. AGAIN TO FOLLOW UP ON THE DENSITY CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTARY THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST . IT WASN'T TO INCREASE THE 
          DENSITY. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE IT IN THAT MANNER. 
          >> AND AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THE PENDING CAMPSITE APPLICATION IS GOING, MRS. TOSCA HAS I BELIEVE ONE MORE MEETING IF SHE JUST SUBMITS ALL THE PAPERWORK AND ALL THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETED THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED FOR FINAL APPROVAL IN ORDER TO GET 
          THAT. >> SO AFTER ONE MEETING THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING 
          LEFT IN COMPLETING THAT PROCESS . >> THINK QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT RON WAS SAYING ABOUT THAT. WELL, WHAT WE'RE TASKED TO DO IS SEE THE C TO ZONING NOT THE 2 3 ZONE EXCUSE ME NOT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CAMP SITE OR HOW CLOSE IT IS BUT IT DOES CONFUSE ME AND 40 YEARS OF PLANNING AND 20 YEARS IS LEFT IN AND DOING A LOT OF PLANNING AND LEFT AND AND BEING ON THIS BOARD I AM CONFUSED FROM THE STANDPOINT WHAT IF WE WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO VOTE ON BUT DO YOU WANT US TO VOTE ON THAT OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL ALL THOSE ANSWERS? 
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BECAUSE HE'S CORRECT IS WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEVELOPING AGREEMENT OR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL BE ACCEPTED BECAUSE IT'LL BE OUT OF OUR HANDS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A THING TO SAY ABOUT IT. EITHER APPROVE OR DENY YOU'RE YOUR APPLICATION AND I MEAN THIS IN ALL SINCERITY I'M A NEW URBANIST SO I MEAN I'M NOT BUT I'M NOT SPOT'S OWNER. I WOULD JUST BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE DO LIKE YOU SAID THE ACCESS POINTS YOU HAVE THINGS IN THE PLAN BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 
          >> WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT NOW IT'S A CONCEPTUAL WE ARE UNDERSTANDING WORDS FOR US TO GET THIS FINAL APPROVAL FOR A REASON WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND END UP BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THREE READINGS AND AT THAT POINT PRIOR TO GETTING TO COUNTY COUNCIL WE WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THE T'S AND DOT THE I'S AND GET THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DRAFTED AND NAILED DOWN AND HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THESE HOME SITES WHERE WE COULD ADDRESS WHAT IS THE OPEN SPACE, WHAT THE FINAL DENSITY WILL BE, WHAT WE WERE SEEKING AND HOPING TO TO GET THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT OUR FINAL RESTING PLACE THAT COUNTY COUNCIL THIRD READING IS OUR FINAL RESTING PLACE. 
          BUT IF THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR HEY THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THEM PROVIDED THEY DO THIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THEN WE COULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL TAKE THIS UP AND LOOK AT IT IN MORE DEPTH. YOU KNOW THAT MY GRANDDADDY USED TO SAY TO ME IS YOU DON'T JEN DON'T OUTSMART YOUR COMMON SENSE, YOUR IF YOUR COMMON SENSE IS TELLING YOU SOMETHING THEY THEN GO WITH IT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT ON THE FACE IT'S JUST A SIMPLE REASON. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT FOR ME IT'S NOT FOR ME IT'S TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF GETTING A CAMPGROUND APPROVAL AND THE ONLY THING PREVENTING ME FROM GETTING A FINAL APPROVAL IS PAYMENT OF THOSE CAPACITY FEES . 
          WE'VE MET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND ON THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THAT ARE THE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL THAT WAS ISSUED TO US IT STATES ON THEIR READY FOR FINAL. 
          >> SO YOU KNOW SHE CAN SEND OFF FOR FINAL APPROVAL NOW AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. GREENWAY IN THE JUNE MEETING THAT AND IT'S WHEN MY EARS PERKED UP. HE SAID THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO STOP THIS CAME AROUND IS IF THE TASK IS DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT. 
          SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE SURFACE THIS IS A REASONABLE REQUEST FROM T2 R TO SEE 3 AND MY SIMPLE MIND AS A LAYPERSON I'M LOOKING AT 700 CAMP SITES FOR A REASON TO MAYBE 85 OR 90 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE I GET THE CONUNDRUM FROM MY 
          PERSPECTIVE. >> I'M SITTING HERE THINKING WELL THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE AND MAYBE IT'S NOT MAYBE IN THE POSITION PUTS YOU IN. 
          YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR MAYBE YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT WITH CONDITIONS. 
          YOU KNOW WHERE WE KIND OF WANT TO SEE WHERE IT GOES. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO LAY OUT ANOTHER FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DRAFTED IF THERE'S NO SUPPORT FOR IT. I GUESS IT'S AN UNUSUAL REQUEST . 
          I THINK DEVELOPERS COME BEFORE YOU OFTEN AND THEY WANT TO SAY HEY, I CAN BUILD 20 HOMES THAT I WANT YOU TO REASON BECAUSE I WANT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, 250 HOMES I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU GO AND I CAN DO 700 CAMPSITES OR I CAN DO 85 OR 90 HOMES WITH THE APPROVAL AND THE AUTHORITY THAT THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY CAN GIVE ME. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          >> IT'S VERY UNORTHODOX AND IT'S CONFUSING. I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR 
          PERSPECTIVE I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S CONFUSING. >> BUT TO ME IT YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE. WELL, IT'S KIND OF A COMMONSENSE AND SO I DID WANT 
          TO OUTSMART MYSELF ON IT. >> I WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO. 
          >> THANK YOU, MR. RIGHT. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE HAVE ON I WASN'T A FAN OF THE CAMPGROUND BUT SOME PERMITTED USE. IT'S A PERMITTED USE BY NOT REALLY IN LOVE WITH THIS HUNDRED AND TEN HOMES PUSHED IN THEIR SPOT ZONING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. MIKE, MY REAL ISSUE IS IS IT'S NOT 80 OR 90 OF THE MORE WE'RE SETTING. WHAT IT IS IS IT'S TWO, THREE, FOUR THOUSAND FOUR HOMES. 
          THERE'S ZONING CHANGE GOES THROUGH. YOU'RE GONNA SEE BEFORE CHRIS 
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THERE'S AT LEAST TWO MORE APPLICATIONS HERE FOR THAT AND ONE OF THERE'S GONNA BE FOR ANOTHER UP ZONE AND I'LL BET ANYBODY A CUP OF COFFEE HERE AT THE SECOND ONE IT'S GONNA BE FOR A CAMPGROUND BECAUSE THE WORK'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. THE MARKETING MARKETING'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. THERE IS A DEMAND FOR A CAMPGROUND. 
          I BELIEVE ME. I'M NOT A CAMPER. I DON'T I DON'T LIKE THAT IT'S NOT ME I'M A MARRIOTT GUY BUT BUT BUT THAT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED . THE PLANS HAVE BEEN EVEN SUBMITTED I UNDERSTAND TO LIKE SO I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS. FIRST OF ALL, WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE EVEN EVEN IF WE WANTED TO EVEN IF WE WOULD CAPABLE OF NEGOTIATING THE BEST AGREEMENT SO FAR RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW I WOULD IF THIS IF THAT WERE EMOTION AND IF THERE WERE A SECOND AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE IS I WOULD VOTE THIS DOWN. 
          OK. BUT WITH THAT IF THERE WERE A ZONE IN THAT THAT THAT COULD GO IN THERE WITH LESS DENSITY THAN THIS ONE THE C 3 BECAUSE AGAIN I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS WITH A PARTICULAR ONE. YEAH THIS IS A HUNDRED AND THIRTY AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT A HUNDRED AND TEN AND WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN TO 80 BUT IT'S THE ONES DOWN THE ROAD THEY'RE GOING TO BE THOUSANDS TO THREE 4000 AND I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN SAY A NUMBER. 
          I HAVE A NUMBER OF MY HEAD BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ZONE EXISTS . I REALLY DON'T I'M NOT I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THE PLAN. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT'S REALLY TO SAY ALL 
          RIGHT, I'M HEARING MORE TO HAVE EMOTIONAL TRACTION. >> SURE. 
          >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO SUPPORT THE PLANNING STAFF AND THEIR RATIONALE AGAINST APPROVAL FOR THIS UP ZONING SPOT ZONING. HOWEVER IT'S CHARACTERIZED BASED ON THEIR RATIONALE. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT SCHOOL ISSUES HERE ABOUT THE INCAPACITY OF SCHOOLS IN THIS DISTRICT TO SUPPORT CHILDREN OF FAMILIES WHO PRESUMABLY WILL MOVE THERE. SO I WOULD VOTE TO SUPPORT THE STAFF AND TURNED DOWN THIS 
          REQUEST FOR UPSELLING. >> I'LL SECOND IT. IF YOU WOULD. 
          DO YOU HAVE AN AGENDA? IF YOU COULD READ THAT CERTAINLY PART SO WE'VE GOT THE 56 ACRES ARE 600. WELL, ALLOW ME TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY. 
          SO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THIS DATA INTO MY MOTION? YES. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I DID SUPPORT THE PLANNING STAFF TO DENY THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REZONING REQUEST FOR 56 ACRES AT 60 GASTON PLANTATION ROAD FROM T TO WORLD TO SEE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE SECOND. 
          >> I SECOND IT. I HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND MOTION. 
          SECOND ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UNANIMOUS. 
          I MUST SAY AS A FOOTNOTE AGAIN I'M A NEW URBANIST. EVERYTHING THIS NEW URBAN SPOT ZONING IS NOT UNFORTUNATELY COMPLETELY ENGROSSED TO THEN DO THAT. 
          IT WAS A VERY TOUGH DECISION FOR ALL OF US UP HERE AND I THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK AND YOUR YOU'VE GOT A GOOD TEAM. YEAH. YOU BRING THE CHAIRMAN ALAN GIVE THIS THE FEDERAL BENCH GLADLY THAT SEEK OUT REAL HELP . 
          I DON'T SEE MUCH SUPPORT. I WOULD PROBABLY ONLY LIKE IT. I MEAN IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET BACK AS YOU SAID, GROW. I MEAN THAT WOULD INVOLVE IS A LUXURY YOU KNOW, A WHOLE FIRING PLACE ENTERTAINING AND WE MISS IT. DID YOU BRING UP THAT YOU DID BRING US CULTURALLY SOCIALLY TO WATCH YOU ON LIKE THE 1994 MARKET? NOT EVEN UP AT LEAST CAPITAL IS IMPORTANT. NO, I THINK YOU'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO DROP OUT. OK. I MEAN I THINK REAL. 
          THAT'S HOW IT IS. I REALLY LOVE DENISE WITH LANGUAGE THE STUFF. 
          NEXT TIME YOU ADDRESS SOMEBODY IS DEAD . IT'S NO FORGOT TO ASK YOU DON'T 
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PASS THE TIME. I'M GOING TO A UNLESS IS OBJECTION ON THE BUSINESS THAT THERE I'M EXTREMELY SWEET. OUR PRETTY CLEAR IN THIS MEETING OVER. 
          ANY OBJECTIONS? DAVID STERN O
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