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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAVER COUNTY COLLECT CALL THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER WEDNESDAY, AUGUST THE 25TH.
SO MOVED SECOND SESSION ON FAVOR OPTION ON THE MINUTES FOR JULY 28TH.
SO MOVED BY, UM, ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN.
AND SPEAKING OF WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S TOWN STAFF, OR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MEETING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
WHEN SPEAKING ON THE RECORD, COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK NOW IN MADAM CHAIRWOMAN? IF WE CAN JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE TO TRY TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THAT IT'S PICKED UP FOR THE RECORD.
I THINK WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, YOU CAN PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS? 1 0 1 WIND RUSH LANE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, A REQUEST BY ANDREW JACOBS OF MILLER ELECTRIC COMPANY ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER OF BANK OF AMERICA FOR APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THE PROJECT CONSISTENT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING FOR THE SITE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE GENERAL MIXED USE AND IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBER IN YOUR PACKET LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST OF BAYLOR DRIVE AND US HIGHWAY 2 78.
UM, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION THERE.
UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, STATED, UM, THIS IS FOR THE BANK OF AMERICA SITE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT LOCATED HERE ON THIS, UH, PARCEL LOCATED LOCATION MAP HERE.
UH, THIS IS THE PUBLIX SHOPPING CENTER.
THAT'S ON 2 78 IN THE CORNER OF BUCK ISLAND ROAD.
UM, JUST FROM A, AN AERIAL STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE HERE AGAIN.
UM, IT'S LOCATED UP IN THE, UM, THE, UH, NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE BUFFER THAT'S ALONG THE ROAD.
UH, BOTH 2 78 AS WELL AS BAYLOR DRIVE.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE GENERAL MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT AS REGULATED BY THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
AND AGAIN, ISN'T THAT HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, I BROUGHT A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN HERE.
UH, THIS WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THESE ARE LOCATIONS OF EXISTING, UM, LIGHT POLES, AS WELL AS IF YOU ADDITIONAL LIGHT POLES.
UM, FROM THE SCHEDULING STANDPOINT, YOU SEE THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 1, 2, 3, UH, I BELIEVE THREE NEW FIXTURES.
ONE IS AN, A NEW POLE AND IT'S JUST REPLACING THE LIGHTING.
THAT'S IN THE EXISTING POLES THAT ARE OUT THERE AGAIN, THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE ARCHITECTURE OR THE LANDSCAPING ON THIS SITE.
SO WE'RE FOCUSED JUST ON THE LIGHTING, UM, IN YOUR PACKETS, THE PHOTOMETRIC PLANS THAT WERE PROVIDED, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY DO SHOW, UM, AVERAGE FOOT, UM, FOOT CANDLES WITH MAXIMUMS UPWARDS OF 31 FOOT CANDLES.
AGAIN, PHOTOMETRIC PLANS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
UM, AND THEN THAT WAY, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THEM AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.
UH, AGAIN, UH, THE, UH, FOOT CANDLES HERE, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE AREAS UNDER THE ATM, UH, WHICH IS FAR EXCEEDING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DO ALLOW, AND I'M GOING TO GO FOCUS ON THE, IN THE, UH, CRITERIA TO, UH, EXPLAIN WHAT THE, UM, MINIMUM THAT'S ALLOWED AND THE
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MAXIMUM AGAIN, UM, YOU CAN JUST SEE SOME OF THESE FOOT CANDLES UNDERNEATH THIS ATM WORKS JUST AS, UM, ENHANCED IN THE, THE IMAGE.UH, SOME OF THEM RANGING UP TO 38, 25 INTO THE TWENTIES.
UM, SO TH THIS EVENING YOU HAVE, UM, THE MULTIPLE REVIEW CRITERIA, UH, THAT ARE, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN, AS WELL AS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, SO THIS IS, MUST BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH APICAL LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND ARCHITECTURAL PROVISIONS IN ARTICLE FIVE OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, SO THIS IS IN THE GENERAL MIXED USE.
SO, UH, IT WILL BE REGULATED BY THIS, UM, ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT WE FOUND ENOUGH.
I'LL TRY TO HIGHLIGHT IT BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF TEXT HERE.
UM, WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS WHAT'S ALLOWED BY CODE.
SO A MINIMUM OF TWO FOOT CANDLES, AVERAGE OF 12 AND A MAXIMUM OF 20, UM, WE FOUND THAT THE PLANS SHOW A MINIMUM OF EIGHT AND A HALF, AN AVERAGE OF 20 AND A MAXIMUM OF 40 APPROXIMATELY, UM, AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S FOR THE CANOPY AREA AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL PARKING AREAS AS WELL HAS, UM, LARGER THAN, UH, ALLOWED FOOT CANDLES FOR BOTH OF THESE, UH, AREAS, UM, THAT THE APPLICATION MUST BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, PUD CONCEPT PLAN, MASTER PLAN.
UM, IT'S NOT LOCATED WITHIN A PUD.
THEREFORE THIS RE REVIEW CRITERIA IS NOT NECESSARY.
UM, AND THE APPLICATION COMPLIES WITH ALL APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICATIONS MANUAL, UM, AND WE'VE DETERMINED THAT IT DOES MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO THIS EVENING YOU HAVE THE ACTION TO APPROVE, UM, UH, AS SUBMITTED APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, IF YOU SO CHOOSE, UH, THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT PER SECTIONS FIVE, 12 3D ONE, THAT THE LUMINATION LEVELS.
SO THE CANOPY, UH, MUST BE REVISED TO MEET THE PERMITTED LEVELS.
UM, I WILL STATE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED DOCUMENTATIONS AT FIVE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON, THAT I'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, UH, WHICH DOES SHOW THE PLANS, UH, COMING INTO COMPLIANCE.
UM, HOWEVER, SINCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD STILL PROVIDE THESE CONDITIONS.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE, THEY WOULD FORMERLY RESUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
UM, WE WOULD REVIEW IT FOR COMPLIANCE, UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, UM, MR. JACOBS IS IN THE AUDIENCE IS, UM, ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL.
THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK VERY MUCH, KEVIN, UH, AS HE SAID, THERE WAS A VISION IN THE, UH, PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, WHICH, UH, THE REVISION IS MORE COMPLIANT TO THE LOCAL STANDARDS.
IT WAS A DESIGN THAT WAS, UH, MITIGATED BETWEEN GMR DESIGN, UH, WHO DOES A LOT OF THE HANDICAP AND ELIMINATION DESIGNS FOR BANK OF AMERICA, WELLS FARGO, THE OTHERS, AND WITH, UH, UH, LOCAL MUNICIPALITY HERE AT, UH, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON OR CITY OF BLUFFTON, EXCUSE ME, UM, TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
SO, UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED THOSE, THE FULL SITE PHOTOMETRICS WAS, UH, WAS IN THERE AND DID THE FULL SITE FULL SEMESTER.
IT SHOULD SHOW THAT THOSE COMPLIANCES HAPPENED MET.
SO WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THOSE REVISIONS ARE ENHANCED AND, UH, ON APPROVAL WILL BEGIN THE INSTALL, I GUESS, SOMETIME IN THE WINTER FALL THE WINTER.
SO YOU'RE UPDATED, NOT THAT WE'RE REVIEWING THEM RIGHT NOW HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT THE TOWN YES, AS BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVE, UH, THOSE, THOSE DESIGNERS, LIGHTING DESIGNERS, UH, HAVE CONVERSED WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THEY'VE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE IT PREVIOUSLY, BUT THEY ALWAYS LEAN TOWARD WHAT THE BANK WANTS FIRST.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL AT THE BANK WHO SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE IN OUR COMPLIANCE, BUT LET'S GET THE MOST THAT THEY'LL ALLOW US TO HAVE.
AND ALL THAT'S DONE IN EFFECT, BASICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATM'S OR DRIVE-THROUGH AREAS.
AND ON THE SITE, LIKE THEY TRY TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF ILLUMINATION.
THAT'S BEING A STANDARD IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER STATES.
I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN ABOUT 17 STATES ACROSS THE US.
SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO BE COMPLIANT ACROSS THE BOARD AT ALL THEIR RETAIL BRANCHES, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SAFETY FOR THOSE PATRONS WHO USE THEIR ATM'S, WHETHER IT'S A WALKUP AT THE FRONT OR JUST INSIDE THE VESTIBULE AREA OR THE ATM DRIVE-THROUGH LANES.
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I JUST WANTED TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, KEVIN.UM, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE INTENT OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF FOR THESE CONDITIONS IS SO THAT THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO COME BEFORE US AGAIN AND Y'ALL CAN TAKE IT.
UM, FOLLOW UP QUESTION, AND IT MAY SEEM LIKE A RABBIT TRAIL AT FIRST, BUT, UM, THE ARE HORTON'S PROPERTY OUT BY THE CIRCLE ON 1 78 AS THOSE LIGHT POLES THAT LIGHT UP AT NIGHT LEAD OVER ONTO ONE 70 AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT AREA.
WAS THAT DONE UNDER THE, NO, THEY WERE NOT, THAT'S BE ALL DIFFERENT.
CAUSE IF THIS WAS THE SAME LIGHT, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CODE.
I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION TO CLARIFY.
AT SOME POINT YOU SAID MORE IN COMPLIANCE, IS IT FULLY IN COMPLIANCE OR IS THERE SOME EXCEPTION? UH, I BELIEVE THE CANOPY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATM'S, THEY, THEY WORK WITH THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES HAVING JURISDICTION, BUT THEY TRY TO MAXIMIZE THAT TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL UNDER THERE BECAUSE THEY, BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT THEY TRY TO DO IS ELIMINATE ANYONE BEING ABLE TO HIDE THEMSELF ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN 75 FEET OF ANY DIRECTION OF THE ATM.
THAT'S THE REASON THAT'S THE REASON FOR IT.
SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN I SPOKE WITH JOSH WALKENER, UH, UH, GMR ONE, THE LIGHTING DESIGNER, THEY HAD GONE AHEAD AND BROUGHT THOSE LEVELS DOWN, UH, AND WORKED WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PARTICULAR PERSON WAS.
THEY WORKED WITH IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, BUT THEY MADE PHONE CALLS MADE REVISIONS, BUT THE REVISION OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME TO PLEASE SUBMIT IT.
UH, I DO KNOW THAT, UH, I THINK IT, I THINK THE REVISIONS WERE FOCUSING MORE ON THE DRIVE-THROUGH CANOPY AREA, THE LIGHT POLES, ALL THE FIXTURES WE USE ON LIGHT POLES ARE FULL CUT-OFF.
SO, UH, MR. WETMORE'S, UH, CONCERN ABOUT LIGHT BLEEDING OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEIR LIGHTS WERE FULL CUTOFF, THAT THEY FOCUS DOWN TO THE GROUND.
THEY DON'T, THEY UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE ABOUT BLEEDING OVER ON TO OTHER PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY OUT INTO, UH, STREETS.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY COMPLIANT AS FAR AS PROPERTY LINES GO AGAIN, I BELIEVE THE MAJOR CONCERN WAS IN THAT ATM AREA.
I MEAN, DRIVE THROUGH AREA, EXCUSE ME.
UM, MR. ECKARD QUESTION FOR YOU WITH THE TOWN REVIEWING THIS SUBSEQUENT TO OUR POTENTIAL APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OF MEETING THE STUDIO, WOULD THIS TOWN STAFF IN ANY WAY, UH, ALLOW GREATER THAN WHAT THE STUDIO ALLOWS THEM THAT NO.
I MOVE THAT WE, UM, RECOMMEND, OR WE, LET ME TRY IT AGAIN.
I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
DO I NEED TO READ THE WHOLE MOTION OR JUST AS PRESENTED, YOU CAN JUST SAY THAT, UM, MOVE TO ADOPT OR APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE, UM, OR APPROVE THE, UH, APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I THINK I GOT THERE SECOND, SECOND.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THANK ANDREW'S BY THE SEA PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I REQUEST BY RYAN LYLE OF ANDREWS ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF ST.
ANDREW'S BY THE SEA UNITED METHODIST CHURCH FOR AN APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ATHLETIC FIELD ASSOCIATED PARKING SIDEWALKS, BMPS UTILITIES, AND ALL OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF A 12,250 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THE PROPERTY IS ZONE BUCK, WALTER PUD, AND CONSIST OF 10.1 ACRES.
AMANDA, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF.
UM, YOU HAD JUST COVERED MY FIRST SLIDE FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A WHOLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UM, AGAIN, THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE PROPERTY LIES WITHIN THE BUCK WALTER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH
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IN THE BUCK, WALTER PUD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE BUCK WALTER COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN.UM, THE APPLICANTS ARE PROPOSING A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT, UH, TO BE BUILT ON, UH, AT FULL BUILD OUT ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE 10 ACRE PARCEL.
UM, THERE WILL, UH, IT WILL INCLUDE SEVERAL BUILDINGS ASSOCIATED PARKING AND ATHLETIC FIELD, UM, RESTROOMS, STORMWATER BMPS, BUT THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT WILL SIMPLY PROVIDE, UH, THE ENTRANCE FROM BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, THE ASSOCIATED PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE UTILITIES, ATHLETIC FIELD, BUT ALL OF THE PARKING AND UTILITIES WILL ALREADY BE IN PLACE TO SERVE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF A SANCTUARY AND, YOU KNOW, YOUTH BUILDING, UM, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE APPLICATION, UH, ORIGINALLY WAS VIEWED BACK IN MAY OF 2019, UM, RESUBMITTAL WAS PROVIDED IN OCTOBER AND THE, THE APPLICANTS FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UM, THE PROJECT WAS ON HOLD FOR AWHILE.
UH, WE BROUGHT IT BACK FOR A FULL REVIEW OF, OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE ON JULY 9TH.
AND NOW WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU REQUESTING APPROVAL.
SO THIS IS THE PROJECT LOCATION.
AND I DO HAVE, I CAN'T SEE THE MOUSE.
SO RIGHT HERE IS BUCK WALKS HER PLACE.
UH, THIS IS THE LORD OF LUTHERAN CHURCH.
AND THEN THE SUBJECT PARCEL HERE, UM, IS I HAVE AN AERIAL PHOTO THAT SHOWS IT IS ENTIRELY WOODED AND PRIMARILY PLANTED PINES.
THIS IS A SITE PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING THE, THE ENTRANCE AND ACCESS ROAD FROM BUCHALTER PARKWAY AND ALL OF THIS, UH, PARKING WILL SERVE THE ATHLETIC FIELD, UM, AS WELL AS THE FIRST PHASE OF, OR THE FIRST BUILDING, A FUTURE CONSTRUCTION, HERE'S THEIR SITE DATA TABLE AND ALL THE PARKING THAT WILL BE PROVIDED BASED ON THE, IT WILL BE AT THE TIME OF FULL BUILD-OUT.
THERE'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE BUCK, HALTER PD.
SO AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, THERE ARE SIX CRITERIA THAT ARE PROVIDED IN SECTION 3, 10, 3 8 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER, UH, WHEN APPROVING A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, I CAN GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY, THEY'RE ALL PROVIDED IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, BUT STAFF HAS FOUND THAT, UM, BEING IN THE BUCKWALTER PED THAT THE PROJECT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ARTICLE FIVE OF THE EDO, AND IT IS IN COMPLIANCE AND CONFORMANCE WITH THE PUD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN AND THE BUCK WALTER COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN, UH, TIA WAS PROVIDED AT THE, UH, ORIGINAL, UH, SUBMITTAL OF THE BUCK, WALTER PUD, AND PRIOR TO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL AND ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR BUFORD COUNTY WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE ACCESS FROM THE BUCHALTER PARKWAY.
THERE'S THE, THE ENTRANCE WILL ALIGN WITH THE FULL ACCESS, UM, INTERSECTION THAT ALREADY ENTERS INTO THE BUCHALTER PLACE.
UM, THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN DOES NOT SHOW ANY TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD BE WARRANTED FOR THAT LOCATION.
IT WAS NEVER PLANNED, BUT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO A ENCROACHMENT PERMIT JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, DECELERATION LANES, ACCELERATION LANES, LEADING WHATNOT.
UM, ALL THE UTILITIES, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
EXCUSE ME, AS WE, UM, AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS PROJECT WILL BE BUILT IN PHASES, THE ATHLETIC FIELD, PARKING SIDEWALKS, UTILITIES, STORMWATER, BMPS, AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT FEATURE PHASES.
UM, EACH PHASE WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUNCTION INDEPENDENTLY, UH, WITH ALL THE ADEQUATE UTILITIES, OPEN SPACE AND CIRCULATION, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE OTHER PHASES.
AND LASTLY, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED IT TO BE COMPLETE YOUR ACTIONS TONIGHT.
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APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AS IT IS SUBMITTED.UH, YOU CAN APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS.
YOU COULD TABLE THE APPLICATION AND REQUEST MORE APPLICATION, OR YOU COULD DENY THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE SIX CRITERIA PRESENTED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS THAT THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN BE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I DIDN'T LOOK, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT HAVE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD AND LAND PLANNER, UM, JOSH CHILLER AND RYAN WHILE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL, LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE PROJECT.
GOOD EVENING, RYAN LOWEL, ANDREWS ENGINEERING.
WE'VE GOT JOHN CHILLER WITH TILLER JK TILLER THAT WILL SET US UP NICELY WITH THE NARRATIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD QUESTIONS.
UM, THE, CAN WE PULL UP THE MAP? WELL, JUST THE LAYOUT OR THE, NOT THE, NOT THE PHOTOGRAPH, THE DRY SITE PLAN.
WHAT THE, IF YOU FOLLOW THE ROAD IN PAST THE PARKING OVER BY THE, MULTI-PURPOSE IT DEAD ENDS AT THE PROPERTY LINE, WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND WHAT IS THE THINKING? AND THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE FIRE MARSHALL TO PROVIDE INTERCONNECTED.
THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE FIRE MARSHALL TO PROVIDE, UM, CONNECTIVITY AND SECONDARY ACCESS FROM THE LUTHERAN CHURCH.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? YEAH.
AND ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO THE, KIND OF THE DELAY IN THEIR APPLICATION, I BELIEVE IT TOOK A WHILE TO NEGOTIATE, UM, THAT ACCESS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, JOSH, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THEM BETWEEN, BETWEEN COVID AND WORKING OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH LAUREN LIVE TO GET AN EASEMENT ACCESS EASEMENT.
AND HE'S BEEN BASICALLY IS TO PROVIDE ACCESS BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINES, TO THE FUTURE BUILDINGS AND UNOBSTRUCTED ACCESS FROM THEIR PARKING LOT.
SO WE ONLY GOT HALF OF IT, RIGHT.
LIFE PROBABLY NEVER WILL THEY HAVE, THERE IS FUTURE PHASES FOR THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL.
YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN IS WE PLANNED ALL THIS INTERCONNECTIVITY AND WE'VE GOT TOO MANY ROADS THAT HALF OF IT'S DEVELOPED AND THE OTHER HALF ISN'T.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IN THERE, BY MAY THIS, THIS WAS NOT A PLAN CONNECTIVITY OR ANY MASTER PLAN.
THIS WAS JUST A REQUIREMENT OF THE FIRE MARSHALL TO, TO HAVE A SECONDARY, UM, ACCESS FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION.
AT WHAT POINT DOES, OR DO THEY HAVE TO CONNECT LIKE THE LUTHERAN CHURCH? DO THEY HAVE TO COME IN AT THIS AFTER THEY COMPLETE? LIKE, HOW DOES THAT, I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOING TO HANG OUT.
THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY IS JUST GOING TO STOP.
THERE IS, DO YOU WANT TO, YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M, I MEAN, LIKE HOW, UNTIL THE LOOSER IN SPACE HAPPENS IS WHEN WE WANTED TO BUILD ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE INITIAL PHASE, ALL THE PAVING, PARKING, ET CETERA.
AND WE WANT TO GET THAT, UM, DRIVE IS, IS CLOSE TO ALL, UM, THE PERIMETERS OF THE FUTURE BUILDINGS AS POSSIBLE.
SO IT'S RUN TO THE PROPERTY LINE IF LAURA LIFE ADDS ON TO THEIR CHURCH AND DOES THEIR PARKING.
THEN PRESUMABLY AT THAT TIME, THAT'S WHEN THE TWO COULD INTERCONNECT, BUT WE'VE PROVIDED ACCESS FOR THE FIRE TRUCK TO GET AS CLOSE TO THE REAR OF THOSE FUTURE BUILDINGS AS POSSIBLE.
AND THE EASEMENT SPEAKS TO NOT HAVING A FENCE OR BARRICADE SO THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL COULD, IF THEY ENTERED FROM LORD LIFE TO DEAL WITH A FIRE ON OUR PROPERTY, THEN THEY COULD WALK RIGHT THROUGH THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.
SO LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LANDSCAPING IT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANYTHING IN BETWEEN.
THERE'LL BE VEGETATED, BUT NOT SO MUCH SO THAT THEY COULDN'T GET THE ATHLETIC FIELD GOING TO BE USED AT NIGHT.
IS THERE ANY LARGE-SCALE LIGHTING GOING ON IN HERE? THAT'D BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION IF WE DO.
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AND WHAT ABOUT, UM, BUFFER REQUIREMENTS? DOES THAT HOLD TRUE FOR THE REST OF THE, THE CORRIDOR THERE? CAUSE THERE'S NO EXISTING TREE SURVEY OR WHAT THAT TREATMENT IS GOING TO BE.THERE'S AN UNDISTURBED BUFFER FROM THE BUCK OFF THE PARKWAY THAT WILL REMAIN UNDISTURBED.
SO IT IS, UH, 50 FEET FROM THE MEASURED, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE LOOKING AT THE GRADING PLAN.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THAT BUFFER IS GOING TO BE DISTURBED.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF FOR FINAL DRC AND, UH, THE VIDEO ADMINISTRATOR CAN TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT THAT TO MINIMIZE DISTURBANCE TO THE BUFFER AREA.
SO THERE WILL BE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA WHERE THE STONEWATER BEAM OR THE ENTRY ACCESS RIGHT HERE AND THE LITTLE, UH, DETENTION AREA? UM, THAT'S AN EXISTING DITCH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
IF YOU, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT ON THE AERIAL PHOTO.
UM, MAY I ENTERTAIN A MOTION PLEASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FAVOR? AYE.
NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE MULTIFAMILY PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REQUEST BY MADISON CAPITAL GROUP ON BEHALF OF M F H LAND OR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF SIX MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS WITH A TOTAL OF 166 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND AMENITY CENTER AND ASSOCIATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PROPERTIES ZONED IN NEW RIVERSIDE PUD AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 7.5 ACRES.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT REQUEST AGAIN.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THIS ONE LIES WITHIN THE NEW RIVERSIDE PD AND IT'S SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE PUD CONCEPT PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN.
UM, SO RIVERSIDE BLUFFTON IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.
UH, THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IS, UM, BEING DEVELOPED BY THE MADISON CAPITAL GROUP, UM, AND ALL OF THE STUBBED OUT ROADS AND EVERYTHING ARE ALREADY PROPOSED TO SERVE THIS.
THEY'RE ALREADY BEING CONSTRUCTED CURRENTLY TO SERVICE THIS PROPERTY, UH, THAT WILL CONSIST OF SIX MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, 166 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, UM, AN AMENITY CENTER WITH ALL THE ASSOCIATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THE PROJECT, UH, WAS REVIEWED AT THE JULY 21ST, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBSEQUENTLY PROVIDED SOME RESUBMITTAL MATERIALS THAT SATISFIED ALL THE COMMENTS AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL.
SO PROJECT LOCATION, THIS IS A MAP.
UM, MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEW MAY RIVER CROSSING AND PUBLIX THAT WAS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED HERE AT THE NEW RIVERSIDE CIRCLE DIRECTLY ACROSS MAY RIVER ROAD.
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IS THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.
AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARKS PARCEL FOR MULTI-FAMILY, IT'S ADJACENT TO THE LANDINGS, UM, PULTE COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE.
I BELIEVE I HAVE JUST ANOTHER AND HERE IS THE APPROVED NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN RED, THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE MULTI SIX MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS AND AMENITY.
UH, THIS BUILDING'S OUT ALONG THE PERIMETER HERE, A MIX OF TWO AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
UM, ALL THE ASSOCIATED PARKING THERE'S A PARKING EXHIBIT PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
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IN THE, UM, LATER IN THE REVIEW CRITERIA AND OUR FINDINGS, BUT, UM, PARKING WILL BE SATISFIED NOT ONLY BY THE PARKING PROVIDED ON SITE, UH, BUT THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO USE THERE'S A NON-EXCLUSIVE PARKING AGREEMENT WITHIN NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, SO THAT, UM, PARKING FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT CAN BE SATISFIED BY, BY SOME OF THE ON STREET PARKING THROUGHOUT NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.OH, THIS IS JUST, UH, I, I INCLUDED A CONCEPT LANDSCAPE PLAN JUST TO SHOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS INTENT TO, UM, SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEWBURY RIVERSIDE PD.
UM, ALSO PUT UP HERE THAT SITE DATA TABLE SHOWING THE, UM, THE TREES THAT WERE REMOVED TREES THAT WERE SAVED AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL TREES THAT WERE ADDED.
UM, THEY, UH, ARE GOING TO BE AT 33 TREES PER ACRE, UM, LEAVE THEY ADDED, OR THEY SAVED, UM, 50 OF THE SIGNIFICANT AND PROTECTED TREES THAT WERE ON, ON THE PROPERTY AND WORKING WITH STAFF.
AND A LOT OF THAT WAS ALREADY WORKED OUT IN THE ORIGINAL PHASE OF NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE AND THE, AND THE MASTER PLAN.
SO AGAIN, THERE ARE SIX CRITERIA THAT YOU'LL REVIEW AGAIN, UM, ALL ADDRESSED IN YOUR, UM, PACKET AND STAFF REPORT.
I CAN GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THE PROJECT LIES IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE PD.
SO IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE FIVE, BUT I CAN SAY THAT THE APPLICANT IS, HAS BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY LIE OUTSIDE OF THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THEIR PROJECT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY FOR ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPING, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES LIE WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR.
UM, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE PLAN IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE NEW RIVERSIDE PD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE MASTER PLAN.
AND AGAIN, HERE'S TALK ABOUT THE PARKING, UM, PER A DETERMINATION OF THE UTO ADMINISTRATOR.
THE PARKING REQUIREMENT OF 2.25 SPACES CAN BE SATISFIED BY USING NON-EXCLUSIVE, UH, WITHIN THE ENTIRETY OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE MAL NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN.
UM, AGAIN, UH, TIA WAS PROVIDED WITH THE NEW RIVERSIDE PD AGAIN, UH, UH, AN UPDATED TIA WAS PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN APPROVAL.
UM, NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE ALREADY ADDRESSED AND CAN, AND WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE OVERALL NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ALL THE UTILITIES FOR CONNECTIONS, UH, FOR EACH PARCEL WITHIN THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE WILL BE PROVIDED.
UM, IT WILL THIS PROJECT, THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN A SINGLE PHASE AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND IT IS DETERMINED TO BE COMPLETE.
SO AGAIN, YOU, UH, ACTIONS YOU CAN TAKE TONIGHT ARE YOU CAN APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
YOU CAN APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS.
YOU COULD TABLE THE APPLICATION AND REQUEST MORE INFORMATION, OR YOU COULD DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED AND STAFF AGAIN, RECOMMENDS THAT THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN BE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
UM, DO YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE, UH, ENGINEER OF RECORD, UM, ARE HERE TONIGHT AS WELL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, DO YOU HAVE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PRODUCT? I CAN THANK THE COMMISSION TODAY.
WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THE TOWN AND COUNTY STAFF.
WE TRIED TO ACHIEVE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT ONLY OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, BUT ALSO THE PUD.
UM, KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS ALSO A PROJECT WHERE ONE OF THE FIRST WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND WE HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION BEFORE LONG.
THIS IS ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING THE PARK
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IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWN, THAT WE WILL BE THE PUBLIC PARK, WHICH WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL THE AMENITIES, ALL THE PONDS, ALL THE SUBSTANCE SURFACE, AND IT WILL BE DEDICATED AND OWNED BY THE TOWN.GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST ONE YOU HAVE, I'M GOING TO ASK, SEEING AS WAY OF PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH WE'VE YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE WAY THE PROJECT'S COMING.
UM, THE ONE RIGHT BEFORE THAT, YES.
UM, I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE NITPICKY BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS TODAY AND I WAS THINKING, WHAT IF I LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE HOUSES ON RUDDER RUN, JUST SOUTH OF THE PROJECT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAYOUT FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING, THE DUMPSTER LOCATION IS RIGHT ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE.
FROM THAT THIRD HOUSE I WOULD ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSION MAY SEE FIT TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THAT DUMPSTER LOCATION MAY MOVED EITHER TO THE BUMP OUT TO THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT OF IT, OR THE BUMP OUT TO THE LEFT.
SO IF YOU GO TO THE, THE SITE MAP OR THE THREE-STORY BUILDING IS YEAH.
SO YOU SEE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT WHERE IT IS NOW, RIGHT THERE ON THE BOTTOM.
IF IT COULD GO OVER TO THE LEFT OR TWO TO THE LEFT, IT'LL BE BACKING UP TO OPEN AREA OR IT'LL BE BACKING UP TO, UM, UH, I BELIEVE THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE THE MAIN DRIVE THERE, HERE OVER HERE.
WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT.
I'M MIKE HUGHES WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, WE DID ORIGINALLY HAVE, UH, TRASH DUMPSTERS ON THE PROJECT SITE AND WE WORK WITH STAFF TO ENABLE FOR A COMPACTOR TO BE LOCATED HERE.
SO TYPICALLY FROM AN OWNER STANDPOINT, IT'S PREFERABLE TO AN OPEN DUMPSTER.
THE REASON IS SPECIFICALLY LOCATED WHERE IT'S AT IS BECAUSE OF THE TRUCK APPROACH.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION, IF YOU WERE TO AGENDA, UH, MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THE TRUCK TO APPROACH, UH, TO GET, SO THE, THE COMPACTOR IS ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE.
WE'RE SEEING DOWN HERE, WHICH IS THEIR STORAGE, ENCLOSURES, IT'S STORAGE AND NOT DUMPSTERS.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY TRASH LOCATED.
SO HERE'S THE TRASH COMPACTOR.
WE WORK WITH THEM TO KIND OF PROVIDE A DRIVE-UP DROP-OFF FOR TRASH RATHER THAN HAVE DUMPSTERS THAT WE FELT PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY RELUCTANT TO OPEN AND THROW THEIR TRASH IN.
AND NO, I, UH, I LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S CONFUSING, WHERE IT DOES LOOK LIKE DUMPSTER AND CLUTTER.
AND HONESTLY, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS.
EXCEPT STAFF STAFF ALSO SAW THAT AS A CONCERN.
SO IT IS NO LONGER TRASH REFUSE IN THAT LOCATION.
WELL, THEN A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT, UM, HEAVILY LANDSCAPED AROUND THERE AND WHAT'S THE NOISE.
MY NEXT CONCERN IS, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT IS A COMPACTOR, SO IT DOES HAVE NOISE.
UM, IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, WE CAN TRY TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME MORE BUFFERING ALONG THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
JUST, JUST TRYING TO PUT MYSELF IN THE MIND OF SOMEBODY THAT JUST BOUGHT A HOWEVER MANY HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE, 50 FEET AWAY FROM THAT HOUSE MOVING.
UM, SO DURING THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, THE VILLAGE, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, UM, WE MADE SURE TO PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE BUFFER, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE UNITS THAT BACK UP TO THE LANDINGS, UH, TO, TO PRESERVE AS MANY OF THE TREES BACK THERE AS POSSIBLE, AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, ALONG THAT REAR PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU'LL NOTICE, UM, THAT THOSE ARE TWO STORY BUILDINGS, UM, WE, WE WORKED TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT FROM A MASS AND SCALE STANDPOINT, THAT IT WAS NOT TOWERING OVER, UH, HOMES THAT WERE, WERE BACKING UP TO THAT ALSO, UM, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT ON THE LANDING SIDE, THERE IS A 50 FOOT BUFFER AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO THERE IS, THERE'S STILL THAT SEPARATION, UM, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF VEGETATION BETWEEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND THE MULTIFAMILY HOMES, AND THEN HAVING THE TWO STORY UNITS AT THAT LOCATION, AS OPPOSED TO THE
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THREE STORE UNITS.I HAD A COUPLE OTHER REAL QUICK, UM, DO WE KNOW THE NUMBER OFFHAND OF, UH, PARKING SPACES PER UNIT THAT ARE IN THAT SECTION? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU INCLUDED THE OUTSIDE, BUT IS IT CLOSE OR ARE WE TALKING? HALF OF THEM ARE IN THERE.
SO I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL ACCOUNT.
I KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM, I THINK IT'S 200 AND LIKE 220, WE HAVE ONE AND TWO THIRD SPACES PER UNIT.
SO FROM A BEDROOM COUNT STANDPOINT, WE HAVE ONE TO 1.2 SPACES PER BEDROOM.
SO, UM, WE ARE PRIMARILY, WE'RE A HUNDRED FOR ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND 60 TO TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
SO FROM A BEDROOM STANDPOINT, WHICH IS USUALLY HOW ULI CALCULATES TOTAL PARKING SPACES, WE'RE WELL ABOVE INDUSTRY STANDARD ABOUT THE CODE IS 2.25 SPACES PER UNIT.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DO NON-EXCLUSIVE JUST HAVE A MASSIVE PARKING FIELD, UM, AND STRATEGY SHARED PARKING SO THAT IF YOU ALREADY GET THE RESTAURANT OR YOU ARE AT THE PARK OR YOU'RE DOWNTOWN, OR YOU'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU HAVE A GUEST THAT IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE PARKING FIELD THAT IS SPECIFIC JUST TO THIS BIG PARKING FIELDS.
I JUST WAS CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS FIT AND I'D TRUST STAFF WELL ENOUGH THAT IT WOULDN'T BE THIS WAY, BUT IF IT WAS 50% OF THE REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE AND THIS, UM, UM, AND THEN I CAN'T, I CAN'T LOOK AT A PROJECT WITHOUT ASKING ABOUT INTERCONNECTIVITY.
SO WE HAVE THAT LITTLE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND THEN WE HAVE A ROAD GOING OVER TO THE LANDINGS, WHICH IS A GATED COMMUNITY.
HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK? OKAY.
CONNECTED
SO THEY'LL HAVE A GATE THERE, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUT.
AND THEN IS THAT HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK? SO RESIDENTS OF THE LANDING ARE GATED, SO THE GATE IS ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THERE THEY ARE ALIVE.
THEY CAN COME INTO THE LANDINGS AND THEY CAN ENTER SHOP.
THEY CAN COME INTO NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE AND THEY CAN GO BACK INTO THE LANDINGS.
THERE IS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE, UM, THE LANDINGS AND NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, AS WELL AS A MULTI-USE TRAIL THAT CONNECTS WITH THE NEW RIVERSIDE MULTI-USE TRAIL.
I ASSUME THE, UM, ONLY TREES, THE LOCATION OF THE TREES THAT ARE REMAINING ON PROPERTY ARE ONLY WITHIN THAT BUFFER ALONG, EXCUSE ME, ALONG THE RIVERSIDE, IS THAT CORRECT? SOME TREES ONSITE.
AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY EXPOSE THEM, THEY WERE IN DECLINE.
AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THE TREES THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD PLANNED TO SAVE, AND WE REVISE THE SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE TREES.
BUT AFTER REVIEWING THEM WITH STAFF, ALTHOUGH NICE IN NAME, THEY WERE NOT NICE IN STATURE OR PRESENCE.
SO A MAJORITY OF THE TREES THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED ARE IN THE PERIMETER, UM, ARE ANY, UH, WERE ANY OF THE TREES, SPECIMEN OR SIGNIFICANT IN ANY WAY NOW THERE WERE LIVE OAKS, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE, I MEAN, THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A SPECIMEN TREE, BUT THEY WERE NOT 24 INCHES ABOVE.
UM, WE HAD A COUPLE OF MAGNOLIAS THAT WERE ALONG THE ROADWAY THAT ENTERS TOWARDS, UM, THE LANDINGS.
BUT AGAIN, AND I THINK THEY'RE STILL STANDING AS OF RIGHT NOW.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THEM, YOU'D SEE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE QUESTIONABLE AND, AND HEALTH AND CONDITION.
SO, AND WE DID LOOK, DID YOU EVER ARBORIST REVIEW IT AT ALL? WE DID NOT.
UM, IF YOU GO OUT THERE, I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE THAT YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A BIG HOLE IN IT.
THE ONE LIVE OAK THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO SAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING FIELD, IT KIND OF HAD AN INTERESTING LIMB STRUCTURE.
IT'S GOT A GIANT HOLE IN THE SIDE OF IT, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES, UM, THEY JUST DON'T, THEY'RE NOT QUALITY LOOKING TREES.
SO I THINK WE'RE BETTER SERVED TO PLANT NEW, UM, APPROPRIATE TREES FOR THE SITE.
THE DID THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT LOOK AT IT.
IT'S JUST, I I'M, I'VE WORRIED.
CAUSE SOMETIME I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE, THE LIVE OAK.
UM, SOMETIMES IT'S THE NATURE OF WHAT'S AROUND A TREE IS AFFECTING ITS APPEARANCE.
ONCE YOU PUT IT, GIVE IT SOME LOVE, IT CAN CHANGE THE TREE.
UM, AND SO IF SOMEBODY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT WITH THAT, THEY MIGHT SEE A POTENTIAL THAT SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT NOT SEE.
SO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS, IS I'M AWARE OF THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO NOT LOOK AT IT.
UM, I'VE REVIEWED IT, LIKE, I MEAN, I'VE REVIEWED THAT PROPERTY HEAVILY.
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OKAY.AND THE SITE PLAN DID WORK AROUND THEM ORIGINALLY.
IT WAS A LITTLE AWKWARD, BUT WE MADE IT WORK ONCE WE OPENED UP THE AREA BECAUSE THERE IS FILL THAT HAS TO OCCUR IN THIS LOWER AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND WE WERE GOING TO DO TREE WELLS TO TRY TO PRESERVE BASED ON LOCATION, BUT ONCE YOU EXPOSE THEM AGAIN, IT, IT MADE BETTER SENSE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND MAKE SURE THE PLANE MADE SENSE.
SO, UM, AND THEN, SO THERE WAS MENTION OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT HAD BEEN DONE.
WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN WAS THAT DONE? HAD, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DONE.
THE MOST RECENT WAS LAST, THE TRIP COUNTS WERE LAST FALL OR I'M TRYING TO THINK LAST FALL.
SO IT WAS JUST AFTER COVID RIGHT.
SO THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR COVID ACTUALLY TO FINISH THE TA EMOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
YOU'RE GOING TO AIM NUMBER FOUR AND THAT YOU NEED TO REFUSE.
I'M GOING TO BLUFF WATER ACCESS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AID REQUEST BY COMING TO BLUFF DEVELOPMENT, LLC, FOR APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF A REVISION TO NOTING ALLOWED WATER ACCESS AT PEMBINA BLUFF.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED PALMETTO BLUFF, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
WOULD YOU PREFER? UM, AND ACTUALLY THE ITEM UNDERNEATH THAT WE'LL BE DOING THAT IT'S ONE STAFF REPORT.
SO WE'LL, IF YOU'RE SETTING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, I THINK LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT DONE AND THEN WE CAN DIGEST EVERYTHING.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, MY RECOMMENDATION IS ACTUALLY, WAIT, WAIT, AND HAVE THE PRESENTATION THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, MAYBE THERE'LL BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
SO AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, WE'RE COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION TOWN COUNCIL FOR A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
SO ON MARCH 23RD OF THIS YEAR, UM, PALMETTO BLUFF DEVELOPMENT SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND ALSO, UM, THERE ARE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS FOR FINAL BLUFF DOCS THAT THE TOWN HAS ACKNOWLEDGED.
AND THAT PARK WILL ACTUALLY JUST GO BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL AND WILL INCLUDE WHATEVER THE FINAL AGREEMENT STATES.
UM, THIS ALL CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS STARTING THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THEIR NEXT PHASES, UM, WHICH INCLUDES THE EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING BIG HOUSE, WATER ACCESS POINT, UM, WHICH IN THE FUTURE WILL BE COMMONLY KNOWN AS ANSON MARINA ONCE IT'S PLATE.
AND SO THESE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS, UM, TIE INTO, INTO THAT, UM, FUTURE PLANNING AND TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS AND THE WATER ACCESS POINTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED, UM, AND GET EVERYTHING IN LINE.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, THE 21,000 ACRES AND EXTENDED THE TOWN NOVEMBER, 1998 IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT.
UM, YOU HAD A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, WHICH AGAIN, UM, PROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL ORDINANCE.
AND AGAIN, WITH THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH THEN MADE UP THE PALMETTO BLUFF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PLAN TO DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE KNOW TODAY.
SO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT INCLUDES, UM, PROVISIONS FOR CERTAIN REGULATIONS, UM, FOR WATER ACCESS POINTS PERMITTED ALONG THE MAY RIVER.
AND THE NEW RIVER, THE FIRST TYPE WAS IDENTIFIED AS COMMUNITY ACCESS MAY RIVER, WHICH ALLOWED FOR FISHING CRABBING PEERS THAT WERE, THOSE WERE LOCATED ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER OF THE PROPERTY.
SECOND IS IDENTIFIED AS A TYPE A, WHICH ALLOWS, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION, UM, IN BARCODE FACILITIES, COMMUNITY DOCS, LANDING COURTESY DOCKS, AS WELL AS
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ONE INLAND DRY BOAT STORAGE FACILITY.NEXT IS WHAT THEY CALL TYPE B, WHICH IS A KAYAK LAUNCH DOCK, WHICH ALLOWED FOR A PEER AND A FLOATING DOCK FOR CANOES AND KAYAKS.
UM, THE FOURTH WAS IDENTIFIED AS EXISTING, UM, WHICH CONSISTS OF THOSE DOCKS, UM, AND LANDINGS THAT WERE IN PLACE THAT I'M AN ANNEXATION AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THOSE ARE ALLOWED TO BE EXPANDED.
I TOOK THIS FROM THE STAFF REPORT, TRY TO MAKE IT AS EASY TO READ AS POSSIBLE.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG POINTS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRO AS FAR AS A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL SINGLE FAMILY DOCS, THEY'RE STILL PROHIBITED JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THOSE COMMUNITY DOCS, THE FULL, UM, DEFINITION A LOT UP TO THREE, LIKE I JUST DISCUSSED.
UM, AND FOR THE PROPOSED REVISION, THOSE ARE REDEFINED AS TIGHT B WATER ACCESS POINTS.
AND A FEW OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED IN BETWEEN WHAT WE KNOW IS WILSON VILLAGE AND THE TOWN DOCK BY THE CHAPEL HIGH-PAID WATER ACCESS POINTS.
UM, SO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT CALLED FOR UP TO THREE WATER ACCESS POINTS, UM, THAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE EASTERN SIDE, SUDDENLY BOUNDARIES OF PALMETTO BLUFF.
THEN IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT TWO OF THE ACCESSES MUST BE CITED AT, UM, THE EXISTING POINTS AT THE LODGE, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE END.
I'M AT PALMETTO BLUFF AND BIG HOUSE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERNLY PORTION OF PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, AGAIN, DRY STACK FACILITIES, THEY'RE PROMOTED ONE AND THE FUELING FACILITIES, UM, NOT ALLOW DELVE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO THE ACCESSES, UM, BUT NO DISPENSING IT EITHER DOCKS OR WITHIN BUFFER SETBACKS AREAS, UM, BY SET BY THE RIVER PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND, UM, AND THAT IT ALSO CALLS THAT YOU COULD, THEY COULD EXPAND THE EXISTING DOCS.
IT ALSO PUTS IN THERE THAT THERE'S ONE MORE KAYAK.
AND, UM, CAN YOU HAVE ACCESS POINT THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE NEW RIVER NEXT TO THE MANAGED FOREST TRACK AND THE POSE REVISION? UM, FOR CLARIFICATION, IT TALKS ABOUT THE THREE TYPE, A WATER ACCESS POINTS THAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
UM, SO THESE ACTS, THIS IS TO CLARIFY THE, UM, WATER ACCESS POINTS ARE IN ADDITION TO A CIVIC ACCESS POINT THAT PALMETTO BLUFF CONSTRUCTED AND THEN DONATED TO THE TOWN.
UM, THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE EXISTING, WHICH WERE IN PLACE AGAIN AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED, UM, IN THE LISTING OF THE EXISTING, UM, AND THAT WOULD BE WILSON VILLAGE AND MORELAND LANDING.
AND AGAIN, THE EXISTING THAT WERE SPECIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDED THE, UM, OLD LODGE AND BIG HOUSE.
SO THAT BRINGS THAT NUMBER UP TO FOUR OF EXISTING THAT THEY CAN EXPAND.
SO, UM, WITH THE AMENDMENT, THERE'S ALSO THE REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL STACK STORAGE THAT WILL BE LOCATED AT THE BIG HOUSE TRACK, FUTURE AUNTS AND MARINA.
UM, BROOKE GUARDIAN, THE DOCKSIDE FUELING THE RIVER PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.
IT ALLOWS FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE RESTRICTION, IF THAT DOCK WAS IN PLACE, UM, WHEN IT COMES IN FOR PERMITTING BIG HOUSE, IT WAS IN PLACE AND USE IT AS A COMMERCIAL DOCK AT TIME OF ANNEXATION.
SO IT'S EXEMPT FROM THAT RESTRICTION EXISTENCE BEFOREHAND.
SO ONE, UM, AGAIN, TYPI ONLY ONE KAYAK AND CANOE ACCESS POINTS, UM, THAT WAS ON THE NEW RIVER, THOSE COMMUNITY, UM, ACCESS POINTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ON THE NORTHERN, THOSE ARE CONVERTED TO KAYAK DOCKS.
SO THEY'RE TOTAL OF FOUR, THREE ON THE EASTER, UM, SIDE ONE STILL LOCATED ON THE NEW RIVER, UM, EXISTING WATER ACCESS POINTS.
AGAIN, THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE ON IDENTIFIED.
AND SO THE PROPOSED REVISION SIMPLY INCLUDES THAT MORAL LANDING AND, UM, WILSON AS PART OF THE EXISTING.
UM, ARE THEY INCLUDED OR EXCLUDED? IT WASN'T SPECIFIED WHETHER THEY WERE INCLUDED OR EXCLUDED FROM THE COUNT? SO IN THE PROPOSED REVISION
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CLARIFIES THE DIS EXCLUDED, UM, THE TOWN DOC AGAIN, IT'S, UM, IT'S ANY STOCK DONATED TO THE TOWN, UM, OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND IT'S EXCLUDED.AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE NUMBER OF WATER ACCESS POINTS ALLOWED BY TYPE YOU HAVE, UM, THE COMMUNITY DOC MAY RIVER, THERE WERE THREE TYPE A NEW, THERE WERE THREE, UM, TYPE THE ONE EXISTING TO THE TOWN WAS IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THAT CAME AFTER THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
SO WITH PROPOSED REVISION, YOU HAVE TYPE A THREE, TAKE B, THERE'LL BE FOUR EXISTING, AGAIN, FOUR, AND I'M ACCOUNTING FOR THE TOWN AS ONE, AGAIN, ONE DRY STACK, UM, BOAT STORAGE FACILITY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, CHOSE TO, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT THE, THERE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THE DOCKSIDE FUELING AT BIG HOUSE, WHICH WOULD BE EXCEPT THERE WAS ALSO A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE PALMETTO BLUFF IT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH, UM, PROVIDE FOR CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS ON THAT EXPANSION OF THE WATER ACCESS POINT OF BIG HOUSE.
UM, IT RESTRICTS THE NUMBER OF SLIPS AT BIG HOUSE TO 10% OF THE CUMULATIVE APPROVED TOTAL DWELLING UNITS.
UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY 4,000 ALLOWED.
SO ULTIMATELY THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE 400 SLIPS.
FIRST PHASE IS LIMITED TO 50 SLIPS.
UM, IT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PHASE ANY SUBSEQUENT EXPANSIONS AND THE, UM, RESTRICTION ON THE NUMBER.
UH, IT EXCLUDES THE DOCKING AREA FOR TRANSIENT, UM, KAYAKS AND OTHER BOATS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THEIR PERMITS.
AND SO FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT, IT'S CLARIFYING THAT THE 10% RESTRICTION APPLIES TO IN WATER SLIPS, UM, AND THAT THE RESTRICTION DOESN'T APPLY TO LANDLORD STORAGE FACILITIES THAT ARE DRY, UM, STACK.
AND THIS IS THE, UM, ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN HAD THE COMMUNITY ACCESS DOCKS ALONG THE NORTHERN.
UM, YOU HAVE THE POINT, UH, UM, OLD LODGE.
IT DIDN'T INCLUDE A SPOT AT WILSON AND, BUT, AND BIG HOUSES IDENTIFIED AS WELL.
SO FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT APOLOGIZE, THIS IS NOT MY NORMAL MO I'M USUALLY IN THE BACKGROUND.
UM, SO YOU HAVE, AND, UM, THE REVISIONS, WHICH SHOW TO KAYAK DOCKS, UM, THE WILSON VILLAGE, UM, LANDING, IT ALSO HAS THE TOWN DOCK AND OLD LODGE OF MORELAND, WHICH IS AGAIN EXISTING.
YOU HAVE ANTS AND LANDING, WHICH IS THAT BIG HOUSE.
AND AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING TWO OF THE NEW ACCESS POINTS, THEY'RE IDENTIFYING ONE DO ISLAND, WHICH IS TO THE WEST OF THAT BIG HOUSE AND ALSO ONE PROPOSED ON FOR LONG ISLAND.
SO REVIEW, UM, CRITERIA FOR AN AMENDMENT.
I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THESE, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN BECOME A BRIEF VISIT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE REVIEW CRITERIA AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT AND THEN LOOKING AT DUPONT.
IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
IT'S A PLAN TO GET A DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE CRITERIA, UM, TABLE THAT REALLY WERE JUST CLARIFYING, UM, THOSE POINTS THAT WEREN'T SPECIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, JUST TO GET EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE IN ORDER, UM, AS WELL AS IDENTIFY THE TOWN DOC A LOT FOR THE SECOND, UM, DRY STACK FACILITY.
SO FOR A CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, ESPECIALLY AND CONSISTENCY OF THE LAND USE SCHOOLS, ENVIRONMENTAL OBJECTIVES, OVERALL INTENT.
UM, SO WHEN WE WROTE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OBVIOUSLY PALMETTO BLUFF
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IS IN PLACE.UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE WATERSHED ACTION PLAN AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT POLAR LEFT, UM, IS COMMITTED TO IS TO GO FOR THE CLEAN SOUTH CAROLINA CLEAN MARINA CERTIFICATION FOR THIS POINT, UM, CONSISTENCY WITH THE PUD ZONING DISTRICT.
AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT, UM, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING SINGLE FAMILY DOCS, UM, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
SO KEEPING WITH A SORT OF CLUSTERED AREA FOR THOSE DOCS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN USE, UM, INNOVATIVE SITE AND PLANNING TECHNIQUES, UM, THE CATTLE OFFENSE, HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, I MEAN, THERE'S ECONOMIC ASPECTS TO CREATING JOBS, SUPPORTING OUR WATER ACCESS, UM, THE USE OF EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO USE THE RIVER AND ENJOY IT.
UM, AND COMPATIBILITY OF PROPOSED LAND USES TO ANYONE EVER AND ENJOY IT PUBLIC FOR ANYONE BE ABLE TO PULL UP AND GET GAS AND GET SOME BOATS, UM, WHATEVER YOU MIGHT NEED FOR YOU BET.
SO COMPATIBILITY OF PROPRIETORS, LAND USES AND DENSITY, TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION, AND DESIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, HAVEN'T GOT, THEY'RE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IT TOGETHER, THE ENGINEERING PLANS, OR, UM, BUT THEY'RE JUST SORT OF STARTING TO THINK THIS THROUGH.
SO, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC CIRCULATION YOU'LL HAVE THOSE AND ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES THAT WOULD COME AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN ABILITY TO SERVE, TO BE SERVED BY ADEQUATE PUBLIC SERVICES.
UM, ALL OF THESE ARE, WERE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THE PALMETTO BLUFF, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 1998, UH, CONFORMANCE WITH OUR PLANS, POLICIES, AND PRACTICES AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, WE FOUND IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
AND, UM, WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICATION MANUAL, THAT YES, IT MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS THE REVIEW AND NEXT STEPS, UM, WE HAD THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 18TH.
THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FROM THAT TONIGHT.
WE'RE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A TOWN COUNCIL ORDINANCE FIRST READING IN SEPTEMBER 14TH, FOLLOWED BY A TOWN COUNCIL, PUBLIC HEARING AND ORDINANCE SECOND AND FINAL RATING AT OCTOBER 12TH.
SO DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE GET INTO PUBLIC MADAM CHAIR, ONE MINUTE, PERHAPS BEFORE WE GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN RESPOND TO STAFF'S COMMENTS AND MIGRATED THE APPLICANT AGAIN.
UH, MIKE HUGHES AGAIN, THOMAS SEVEN.
UM, I HAVE BEEN THE ENGINEER ON PALMETTO BLUFF NOW SINCE 2002.
SO HAVING BEEN HERE FROM THE START, UM, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK ON IT AND WE CONTINUE TO HOLD THE VALUES OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND MAKING SURE WE DEVELOP PROSPECTIVELY.
SO THIS ALL MORE OR LESS CAME ABOUT.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MARINA PERMIT, UM, THROUGH ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND OCEAN COASTAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT TO BUILD A MARINA WITH 186 LIPS.
SO DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PROPERTY, WE ALSO CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, WILSON LANDING, WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS AND IS FAMILIAR WITH.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT HAS 77, UH, STACKS AND THEN SIX LIFTS LOCATED AT THE MAY RIVER.
SO TWO LOCATIONS ALWAYS PLANNED ON TO, UM, ACCESSIBLE LOCATIONS TO GET INTO WATER, AGAIN, AS IT WAS SAID, WE HAVE ZERO PRIVATE DOCS THAT WAS A COMMIT WITH IS MADE EARLY ON IN TERMS OF WATER QUALITY, RIGHT? OUR RIVER PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT WAS EXPANDED FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT FROM 50 FEET OUT TO A, AN AVERAGE OF 80 FOR AN AVERAGE OF A HUNDRED, BUT A MINIMUM OF 80 FEET.
SO AGAIN, WE CONTINUE TO HOLD ALL THOSE VALUES IN PLACE.
UM, AND AS IT RELATES TO BIG HOUSE, UM, WE DO HAVE CHALLENGES IF YOU HAVE A MARINA TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, BOATS IN THE WATER THAT HAVE NO ABILITY TO GET FUEL.
SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO, UM, AGAIN, THE CLEAN MARINE IS ACT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE WE DO PROTECT WATER QUALITY.
UM, BUT WE ARE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE WAY PALMETTO BLUFF WAS CONSIDERED, WE DID HAVE DOCS THAT WERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? THE SENSITIVITY OF HEADWATERS.
UM, WE'VE GOT SAMPLING STATION 19, A B AND C THAT WE HAVE,
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UM, THAT OYSTER BEDS THAT WERE SHUT DOWN.WE ALWAYS WORKED WITH THE TOWN TO PUSH THE DOCKS ONTO THE EAST SIDE AND THEN DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT HAS BEEN THE EVOLUTION.
THERE ARE NO PLANS AT THIS TIME TO INCREASE WILSON LANDING.
UM, THERE'S NO PLANS TO FUEL, UH, DOCKSIDE FUEL AT WILSON LANDING.
UM, SO THIS IS MORE, A MATTER OF CLARIFICATION ON THE USES WE HAVE TODAY, RIGHT? THE BOAT WE REALLY HAVE, I THINK, A TOTAL OF SIX ACCESS POINTS AT PALMETTO BLUFF.
WE HAVE FIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF WILSON AND WE HAVE ONE AT MORELAND.
SO THIS WILL THEN, UM, REDEFINE OR CLARIFY WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ENTITLED RIGHTS TO BECAUSE THERE WERE FOUR EXISTING ACCESS POINTS, HAT, PALMETTO BLUFF PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE AREN'T REALLY ASKING FOR ANY MORE ACCESS POINTS.
WE HAVE THREE TYPE A'S AND THREE TYPE B'S.
AND THE ONLY OTHER ONE IN CONSIDERATION IS THE TOWN DOCK.
AND IT WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TOWN DOCK WAS A DEDICATION TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY COUNT AGAINST OUR ALLOCATION OF DOCKS AS IT AS A PUBLIC SPACE.
SO I DO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS RELATED TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID REAL QUICK.
UM, UM, THE WILSON VILLAGE DOCS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE BOATS STAYING IN THE WATER.
THEY HAVE TO BE PUT IN PERHAPS THE SAME OR THE 1 8, 180 6.
WE HAVE 186 PERMITTED WET SLIPS TODAY AT BIG HOUSE CRM, PERMANENT.
THAT IS OCRM AND ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
SO THAT IS AN ACTIVE PERMIT IN HAND.
AND I THINK THE, WE HAVE FIVE YEARS BEFORE THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMIT EXPIRES.
AND AGAIN, AS STATED THAT THE FIRST PHASE FROM, FOR ANSON IS SUPPOSED TO BE 50 SLIPS.
AND SO THAT IS WE'RE TRYING TO FORMULATE THE PLAN TO GET THE FIRST SLIPS AT 50 SLIPS GOING.
UM, BUT WE ARE REALLY AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
UH, IT'S AN EXCITING TIME, YOU KNOW, WILSON WAS DONE AGAIN IN 2001 WE'RE NOW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING PROBABLY FOR THE PAST YEAR AND PLANNING HANSON, AND IT'S, IT'S TIME TO START LOOKING DOWN THERE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE BIG HUBS AND ONE OF THE DRIVING FORCES OF THAT HAS BEEN ALWAYS THE MARINA.
NOW WE HAVE AUNTS AND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW LATER.
ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO FIRST? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YET I'LL SHARE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.
WELL THEN GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, YES, MA'AM OUT OF MARIN PLEASE.
UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU COULD SAY THAT, UM, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WHEN I DO MY MOTION THEN, IS THAT AFTER THE THAT'S JUST STUFF? YES.
SO JUST, UM, JUST ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AS SOON AS ALL THE PUBLIC, I'M GOING TO FINISH THAT.
THAT'S HOW YOU CAN YOU JUST CLOSE IT OFF? OKAY.
AND I NEED TO GET A SECOND ON THAT AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY.
WELL, WHILE YOU'RE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU NEED TO VOTE AS WELL.
THEY HAVE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE READY FOR BOTH.
YES, MA'AM IT IS NOW OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU SENT ME, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY ADDRESS IS EIGHT POUND NADA BEACH DRIVE, BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND I'M GOING TO READ WHAT I WROTE.
20 YEARS AGO, THE THEN OWNERS OF PALMETTO BLUFF IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMMITTED TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT GREATLY PROTECTED THE MAY RIVER.
THE PRESENT OWNERS WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE PLANNING APPROVAL
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WISH TO GREATLY ENLARGED THE IMPACT OF PALMETTO BLUFF ON THE ESTUARY.THIS INCLUDES NOW ADDING NEW COMMUNITY DOCS, KAYAK, DOCKS, AND LANDINGS, ADDITIONALLY DOCS THAT WERE NOT PRESENT.
I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME, AND THERE WERE NO DOCKS THERE THAT THEY NOW ARE CALLING EXISTING DOCS.
UM, WELL IT SEEMED TO BE COUNTED IN THE TOTAL OF DOCS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE.
EXPANSION OF EXISTING DOCS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WILSON'S LANDING IS PLANNED, SAD TO SAY, BUT MORE BOATS, PARTICULARLY MORE MOTORCRAFT MEAN MORE IMPACT ON THE ESTUARY, PERHAPS.
SO THE WORST IS BIG HOUSE OR SO-CALLED ANSON MARINA AREA WITH FUEL OVER WATER PHASE.
ONE ASKED FOR 50 SLIPS AND NEW UNLIMITED DRY DOCK STORAGE OCRM REPORTS THAT A SLIP IS 25 FEET IN LENGTH.
SO APPARENTLY WE GOT EVEN MORE THAN THAT AND SPACE FOR TRANSIENTS.
BUT AT PEAK, THE DEVELOPMENT OF 4,000 UNITS ARE APPROVED FOR PALMETTO BLUFF TRACK AT THE REQUESTED RATE OF ENOUGH DOCK TO ACCOMMODATE 10%.
EVEN THIS WOULD ALLOW 10,000 SLIP FEET OR ONE MILE OF DOCKS UP THERE, ONE MILE OF DOCS.
HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE A GOOD THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT? APPROVING THESE REQUESTS SEEM TO BE A HUGE STEP BACKWARD RATHER THAN FORWARD FOR LIFE ON THE MAY RIVER AND QUALITY OF WATER FOR BOTH THE NEW AND THE MAY RIVERS.
MY 50 YEARS OF BOATING ON THE MAY RIVER, THERE'VE BEEN MANY CHANGES.
SADLY FEW OF THEM HAVE IMPROVED LIFE ON THE MAY RIVER.
WE STILL HAVE A RELATIVELY CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL ESTUARY.
LET'S NOT KILL THE GOOSE THAT LAID THE GOLDEN EGGS.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE DENIED.
JESSE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
MY NAME IS JESSE WHITE AND I'M THE SOUTH COAST OFFICE DIRECTOR FOR THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE.
WE URGE YOU TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR THREE NEW TYPE, A WATER ACCESS POINTS, DOCKSIDE FUELING, AND A NEW DRY STACK, BECAUSE THEY ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL VISION FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
AND THEY'RE INCONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL PUD AND THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SINCE INCEPTION, PALMETTO BLUFF HAS BEEN HELD UP AND CHERISHED AS UNIQUELY SPECIAL, UNIQUELY SPECIAL IN TERMS OF THE INCREDIBLE PLANT AND WILDLIFE RESOURCES THAT CONTAINS IN TERMS OF ITS WATERWAYS AND VIEW SHEDS THAT SURROUND IT.
AND IN TERMS OF THE WIDESPREAD RECOGNITION OF THE IMPACTS THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN HAVE ON THOSE RESOURCES, PARTICULARLY WATER QUALITY, EVERYBODY AGREED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CAREFULLY UNDERTAKEN WITH KEEN SENSITIVITY TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE IT'S THOSE CORE VALUES THAT HAVE CREATED AND KEPT PALMETTO BLUFF AS SUCH A DESIRABLE AND VALUABLE PLACE TO LIVE AND ENJOY.
NOW WITH NEW OWNERSHIP UNDER SOUTH STREET PARTNERS, THEY'RE SEEKING TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE.
THE INTENSITY OF ALLOWABLE WATER USES.
THESE CHANGES ARE CLEAR DEPARTURE FROM THE ORIGINAL VISION AND INDICATE PLANS TO BUILD ON AND NEAR SOME OF THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF DOUGHBOY AND LONG ISLANDS.
THE ORIGINAL PUD PROVIDES FOR A HIGH QUALITY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE COMMUNITY.
INCREASED WATER USE DENSITY DOES NOT MEET THAT GOAL.
RATHER IT SEEKS TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY INTO SOMETHING THAT WILL MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLE SKULL CREEK ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS CONTEMPLATED WATER QUALITY IS A PRIMARY CONCERN IDENTIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND IT, THOSE CONCERNS ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW.
WE KNOW THAT INCREASED IMPERVIOUS SURFACES MEANS INCREASED STORMWATER RUNOFF AND DIMINISHED WATER QUALITY IN AND OF THEMSELVES.
THE TYPE A WATER ACCESS FACILITIES CAN DO GRADE WATER QUALITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ADD DOCKSIDE FUELING, HOWEVER, AN EVEN GREATER RISK IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LIKELY TO FOLLOW BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON LONG ISLAND IN PARTICULAR STANDS TO DEGRADE, NOT ONLY WATER QUALITY AND VIEW SHEDS, BUT ALSO VALUABLE HABITAT.
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AND RISKY.THE PALMETTO BLUFF CONSERVANCY MAY HAVE MORE SPECIFIC DATA ON THE PORTIONS OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY THAT ARE THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AND VALUABLE.
HOWEVER, IT'S CLEAR FROM A LAY PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE THAT THE LOW LYING DOUGHBOY AND LONG ISLAND PROPERTIES ARE THE EXACT TYPES THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE BUILDING ON, ESPECIALLY AS SEA LEVELS ARE RISING AND STORMS ARE STRENGTHENING TO DATE.
PALMETTO BLUFF HAS DEMONSTRATED EXCELLENT LAND PLANNING, BUT THE THREE NEW HIGH INTENSITY WATER ACCESS POINTS AND ESPECIALLY THE TWO CLUSTERED AT LONG ISLAND AND DOUGHBOY ON THE SOUTHERN END SERVE TO DEGRADE THIS HARD WORK.
UM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD MIPS 30 MYRTLE ISLAND CIRCLE BLUFFTON 2 9 9 1.
UH, JUST TO BRING UP A FEW POINTS HERE, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES MUCH DIFFERENCE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS.
I'M SURE THESE DOCS WERE ALREADY PLANNED AND SO FORTH, BUT ANYWAY, THE WATERWAYS OUT THERE ARE VERY FRAGILE.
I HAVE LIVE LIFE ON THEM, BIRDS DOLPHINS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WERE OTHER THAN GOING TO THE SANDBAR, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BACKWATERS, BUT YOU, YOU LOSE FIVE DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE BOATERS 30% OF WHICH HAVE HAD ANY TRAINING WHATSOEVER ON THOSE WATERWAYS.
YOU'VE GOT A ROSHAN FROM THE BOAT WAKES, YOU'VE GOT THE NOISE AND I DARE SAY, NO MATTER WHAT BOAT YOU OWN AND I'VE OWNED BOATS FOR 40 YEARS, THERE'S GOING TO BE POLLUTION.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU START GASSING THEM UP AT THE DOCKS, THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE POLLUTION.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE PADDLING KAYAKS DOWN THOSE HALF OF WHICH PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET INTO TROUBLE SOONER OR LATER.
AND THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR WATERWAYS.
MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN GOING UP AND DOWN TO MAY RIVER, PROBABLY DON'T GET BACK IN THOSE SMALL WATERS, BUT THEY ARE VERY PRETTY.
AND I THINK THE RELAXING VALUES OF THOSE AND THE WATER LIFE EXPOSURE PROBABLY WILL BE IN SIGNIFICANT PART LOST.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS TO TOO MANY OF YOU OR NOT, BUT IT MATTERS TO SOME OF US.
I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT A MARINA MAKES NOISE.
WE LIVE ABOUT 200 YARDS ACROSS THE RIVER FROM PALMETTO BLUFF ON MYRTLE ISLAND.
AND IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO COME OVER THERE ON A WEEKEND AND LISTEN TO THE RACKET TO HIM AND ATE SAT AT THAT PLACE TILL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, YOU CAN EVEN HEAR THE MUSIC IN THE BATHROOM IN THE HOUSE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY AN ENVIRONMENTALLY CONDUCIVE DESIGN.
I THINK IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU NEED TO KAYAK DOCS, DOC KAYAKS GET PUMPED IN THE WATER.
THE PEOPLE GET IN IT AND OFF THEY GO.
SO I QUESTIONED THAT THAT BUSINESS TOO.
AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY FIGURES HERE ON HOW BIG THE DOCKS ARE AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, OUR FRIENDS AT PALMETTO BLUFF HAVE HAD IN A LONG TIME PLANS, A 15 OR 150 SLIP MARINA ON THE NEW RIVER.
NOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? IS THAT STILL PLANNED OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO POP UP ENOUGH A LITTLE WHILE ABOUT THAT, BUT I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES OF IT.
I'VE SEEN THE LAYOUT OF IT AND WHERE THE STANDS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S JUST ABOUT ALL THE NEW RIVER WOULD NEED AS 150 SLIP MARINA.
THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THAT.
SO I WOULD APPEAL TO THE, TO THE COMMISSION HERE THAT SOME LIMITATION IN COMMON SENSE SHOULD REALLY BE USED HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE, THROW YOU A LITTLE SCRAP AND SAY, WE'LL MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE.
I LIVE AT ONE 30 PRITCHARD STREET AND I WAS ACTUALLY THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DURING THE INITIAL PUD FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, ORIGINALLY THERE WERE GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE FOUR DOCS ON THE MAY RIVER AND ONE KAYAK DOCK ON THE NEW RIVER.
UM, IT WAS NEVER INTENDED AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MARINA AT THE BIG HOUSE SITE.
IT'S CITED THAT THE BIG HOUSE SITE IS THE COMMERCIAL DOCK.
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HUSBAND, WHO WAS ALSO MAYOR AND GREW UP HERE, THAT WAS A SMALL DOCK THAT ONLY SERVICED VISITORS VIP'S TO PALMETTO BLUFF FOR UNION CAMP.UM, I THINK EXTENDING THAT TO SOME DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL DOCK IS RATHER GENEROUS.
AND I BELIEVE HAVING BEEN ON PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT YOU WERE ENTITLED TO A BETTER PLAN.
I DON'T SEE THAT THEY'VE STATED WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, UM, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IT COULD HAVE ON THE RIVER.
THIS IS A VERY RESTRICTED RIVER.
THIS IS A RIVER THAT HAS BLEACH BREEDING DOLPHIN.
IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A PRISTINE RIVER BECAUSE OF FECAL COLIFORM THAT DOES NOT COME FROM HUMAN ACTIVITY.
THAT COMES FROM ANIMAL ACTIVITY.
I BELIEVE IN THE INTEREST IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXTENSIVE, UM, INVESTIGATION TO WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE.
WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE LIVED ON THE RIVER.
WE DO A LOT OF TRAVELING IN BOATS.
THERE ARE CERTAIN KEY ELEMENTS WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIENT TALKS, HOW MANY TRANSIENT TALKS WE HAVEN'T BEEN TRANSIENTS THAT THOSE DOCS THAT CAN LAST FOR MONTHS, UM, IN SOME CASES THERE'S ALSO THE AFFLUENT.
A LOT OF BOAT OWNERS DON'T HAVE FACILITIES ON BOARD.
THEY WILL BE USING QUESTIONABLE, UM, USES FOR THEIR EFFLUENT.
I SAW ON THE PLAN THAT THEY DID INCLUDE THE CLEAN MARINA BROCHURE, VERY NICE BROCHURE.
I ADMIRE THAT THE STATE HAS DONE THAT, BUT WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE TO US IN THIS CASE FOR A PLACE THAT HAS NEVER HAD THE DEGREE OF IMPACT THEY'RE INTENDING TO USE HERE.
I LIVE AT 1 55 STALLINGS ISLAND STREET IN PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, I'M GOING TO READ A LETTER WHICH I WILL FORWARD THEN, UH, TO YOU AS WELL, UH, FROM, UM, UM, FROM A GENTLEMEN FORD.
BARTHOLOW I THINK HE'S VERY SUCCINCT IN WHAT HE SAYS.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, WHAT WAS PRESENTED HERE, THE MAP IS CONFUSING, EXTREMELY CONFUSING.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S THAT CONFUSING? IS THERE A REASON? SECONDLY, THE ASK IS VERY CONFUSING.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT MORELAND AND YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE, THERE'S MULTIPLE HOUSES WHICH HAVE BEEN BUILT COMPLETELY AROUND THAT DOCK.
THERE WAS NO ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY IN REGARDS TO PRESERVING THAT AREA DOWN THERE.
SO THAT'S ONE THING YOU NEED TO BEAR IN MIND.
SECONDLY, WE ALL HAVE THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY YEAR.
I SAT ON YOUR SIDE OF THE TABLE.
I WAS ON A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR THE TOWN OF RALLY AND MASSACHUSETTS.
I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WHAT I DID IS I ALWAYS PERSONALLY WENT TO EVERY SINGLE SITE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND IT'S VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE DOWN THERE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ MR. FORD'S LETTER.
UH, HE LIVES AT NINE DUTCH HOUSE CIRCLE OF PALMETTO BLUFF, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD TO BE STRONGLY AGAINST THE REQUEST OF SOUTH STREET PARTNERS TO AMEND THE PALM METAL BLUFFS PLAN, COMMUNITY UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND AMENDMENT FROM TIME TO TIME TO ADD THREE TYPE A WATER ACCESS POINTS, AS WELL AS FUELING OPERATIONS AND FUEL AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITIES AT OR NEAR IN AND AROUND PALMETTO BLUFF, KNOWN AS AUNTS AND IN LONG ISLAND, THESE FACILITIES AND ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED CONSTRUCTION, BOATS SLIPS, COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS, ROADWAYS, PARKING LOTS AND OTHER IMPERMEABLE SURFACES.
ELECTRIC UTILITIES WERE NEVER MET OR ANTICIPATED IN THE ORIGINAL PUD AND ITS AMENDMENTS.
NOW, ANYONE WHO HAS VISITED THESE PRISTINE AREAS AND I HAVE AS WELL AS MR. FORD BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE THEM AND UNDERSTAND THE PRICELESS BEAUTY OF THE ANCIENT HARDWOOD FOREST AQUATIC LIFE IN GORGEOUS MARSHLANDS AND NEW RIVER, WITHOUT DELVING INTO THE DETAILS, THE ECOLOGICAL DAMAGE INFLICTED IN SO MANY AREAS IN AND AROUND BLUFFTON AND THE MAY RIVER, PRIMARILY DUE TO POORLY PLANNED AND RECKLESS CLEARING OF TREES AND WETLANDS WETLANDS FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE AND IT IS ECOLOGICALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING TO MANY AREAS AROUND BLUFFTON.
THEN ONE CAN READ VOLUMES OF SCIENCE OUTLINING THE SERIOUS NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMACTIC CONSEQUENCES OF DESTROYING AREAS LIKE ANSON AND LONG ISLAND, AS WELL AS THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND
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THE WATERWAYS.SO I JUST WANT TO COMMENT IN REGARD TO THAT.
THREE MINUTES ARE UP, MAKE YOUR, TAKE THE TIME TO REALLY INVESTIGATE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE BECAUSE ONCE IT GETS DESTROYED, IT'S OVER YOU
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING COMMENTS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY PREPARED STATEMENTS, BUT I THINK, UM, I'M SORRY, RABO KEEFE SEVEN 90 OLD MORELAND ROAD IN BLUFFTON.
UM, I WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT LONG ISLAND AND DOUGHBOY DOUGHBOY ISLAND.
UM, NOT ONLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A BRIDGE OVER THE MARSH, LIKE MAYBE IN TWO PLACES.
SO UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE IMPACT TO LONG ISLAND, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, I UNDERSTOOD THAT LONG ISLAND HOSTS SOME UNIQUE SPECIES, JUST THE WAY THAT IT'S CONFIGURED AND THE AMOUNT OF, UM, OF THE, JUST THE WAY THAT ISLAND IS CONFIGURED RELATIVE TO THE MAIN PART OF THE LAND.
THAT IT'S A VERY SPECIAL ECOSYSTEM.
AND ALSO JUST PUTTING STUFF ON LONG ISLAND CHANGES THE VISUAL, UH, ENVIRONMENT OF IT.
SO, UM, I LIVE IN PALMETTO BLUFF AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S STILL GROWTH HAPPENING, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY.
MY NAME IS CAROLYN SMITH AND MY PHYSICAL ADDRESS IS ONE FIRST STREET, BUT MOST OF THE TIME I RESIDE AT 2 72 OF JOY.
AND WHEN I'M SITTING ON MY PORCH, I HAVE THE PERFECT VIEW OF PALMETTO BLUFF AT DAYTIME.
AND DURING THE DAYTIME, I HAVE A PERFECT VIEW OF ALL THE TRAFFIC ON THE MAY RIVER.
AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS WOULD BE A DISASTER TO THE RIVER.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW IF THIS MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS OF AN S A RIVER DON'T ANSWER.
DON'T ANSWER YOU, YOU JUST KEEP, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW, DOES THIS MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS OF AN AS A RIVER? THANK YOU.
HELLO, ANSLEY MANUAL 1 0 4 PEARL STREET.
I DID NOT REALIZE I WAS GOING TO PUBLICLY SPEAK, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
UM, I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE REALLY SPEND SOME TIME INVESTIGATING WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UM, LET THE COMMUNITY, I MEAN, WE KIND OF ALL JUST GOT TAKEN BY SURPRISE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN WE SAW THE PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE PAPER.
UH, SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING TO SEE ALL THESE THINGS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M SAYING, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR? UH, AND IS IT HOW MANY MORE DOCS, HOW MANY MORE BOAT SLIPS, UH, ABSOLUTELY AGAINST ANY KIND OF FUEL DISPENSARY AND, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S A MARINA? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IT.
I JUST THINK WE NEED MORE TIME TO STUDY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
STEP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE STATE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS.
ALL RIGHT, JAMES LOCKTON, 52 OR ESTHER STREET, THE REVISIONS TO THE PALMETTO BLUFF CONTENT PLANS TO SPECIFICALLY THOSE AMENDMENTS IN SECTION TWO POINT B 0.4 B REGARDING TYPE A WATER ACCESS POINTS AND FUEL OVER WATER FUEL SALES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AT THE BIG HOUSE TRACK OR ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL ACREAGE FOR PALMETTO BLUFF.
PUD, PALMETTO BLUFF IS GROUND ZERO TO THE MAIN RIVER AND SURROUNDING RIVERS AND WATERSHEDS.
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THERE IS NO OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN BEAVER COUNTY WHERE IT'S LOCATION, SO IMPACTS OUTSTANDING WATER RESOURCE WATERS THAT WE ALL CHERISHED.WHY WOULD WE AND MORE ACCESS? WHY WOULD WE ADD MORE ACCESS IN PLACE FEELING DOCS? WHEN I PROFESSED AIM IS TO PROTECT AND RESTORE THESE WATERSHEDS.
I CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO REJECT THIS AMENDMENT.
AND WE DID HAVE ONE MORE GOOD EVENING.
I LIVE AT 37 HOPE'S NECK OUT IN PALMETTO BLUFF.
UH, I DID NOT COME WITH PREPARED STATEMENTS RATHER.
UH, I HAVE A CONCLUSION, UH, A CONCLUDING COMMENT THAT I WANT TO WANT TO STAY.
BUT PRIOR TO THAT, I WANT TO, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, THE CREDIBILITY OF THE PERSON STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU.
I FOUND A KEEP BLUFFTON BEAUTIFUL IN 2016 WITH LISA SALKA.
NOW THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, ALL MUNICIPALITIES PARTICIPATE IN IT, INCLUDING BLUFFTON AND INCLUDING ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M A CLEMSON MASTER NATURALISTS.
I'M A SOUTH CAROLINA AUTOBON AMBASSADOR.
I CHAIR THE BOARD FOR BUFORD COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS.
I ALSO AM INVOLVED IN SIT I'M THE BOARD OF BUFORD COUNTY, UH, KEEP BUFORD COUNTY BEAUTIFUL.
UM, I AM YOUR 2019 BUFORD COUNTY VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR.
I AM YOUR 2020 VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA BY KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL.
SO I COME HERE TELLING YOU THAT I HAVE PUT A TREMENDOUS EFFORT POST MY RETIREMENT.
WHEN I CAME HERE, I SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO THE, I SAID, NO, I CALLED LISA SACA.
WE MET MARC ORLANDO, EVERY POLITICIAN, ALL THE WAY TO NANCY MACE.
THEY ALL KNOW ME AND THEY WILL KNOW ME VERY, VERY WELL.
WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED IS LITERALLY A DISASTER.
SO SOUTH STREET PARTNERS CAME ON BOARD BOUGHT FROM CRESA THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND NOW THEY WANT TO RUSH AS FAST AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN TO THE MOST PRISTINE PART OF PALMETTO BLUFF, WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE HIGHEST ROI POSSIBLE FOR THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.
WHILE WE, THE RESIDENTS OF PALMETTO BLUFF, WHO ALSO OUR SHAREHOLDERS ARE BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO AGAIN, I'M ON TWO BOARDS.
I CHAIR A ONE BOARD AND IT'S A MASSIVE BOARD FOR THIS COUNTY.
AND I'M VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS POINT.
SO THE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS FROM A VERY CREDIBLE SOURCE.
GOVERNOR MCMASTER CALLED ME AND CONGRATULATED ME ON BEING ONE OF 50 SELECTED AND KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL.
I SIT HERE TONIGHT AND, AND I TELL YOU, I ASKED YOU, I PLAYED WITH YOU, INVESTIGATE THE FACTS, LOOK AT THE SCIENCE.
IF WE GO FORTH WITH THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE A CATASTROPHIC ENVIRONMENTAL MESS.
IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT THE WATER, THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CANOPY.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AS AN AUDUBON AMBASSADOR.
I AM I'M, I'M ABSOLUTELY APPALLED AT WHAT I AM WATCHING THROUGHOUT BLUFFTON, BUT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT PALMETTO BLUFF TONIGHT, THE ENTIRE CONSERVANCY, I WORK WITH THEM AT PALMETTO BLUFF.
WE ALL ARE IN THIS TOGETHER, SO MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP, BUT FROM A VOICE THAT'S BEEN THERE AND IS WORKING HARD ON THIS.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER, NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY, EVERYBODY READY THIS BEST? MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, IF I MAY, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ALL WELL AWARE OF WHAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, WHAT YOUR DUTIES ARE.
IF I COULD JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY IN HERE KIND OF HAS THAT BACKGROUND.
UM, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, MY NAME'S RICHARDSON, LABRUCE I'M WITH FINGER MELNICK, BROOKSON BRUCE ON HILTON HEAD AND WE PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES MAY BE, UM, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS AN A AS A PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT AND A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, UH, THE, THE, OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT NECESSARILY TO DECIDE OR
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TO APPROVE OR DENY EITHER OF THEM IS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TOWN COUNCIL AS TO THOSE TWO APPLICATIONS.UH, WHEN YOU WERE MAKING THOSE SORTS OF DECISIONS, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CRITERIA THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, OFTENTIMES THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP, WHETHER BY THE APPLICANT, BY STAFF OR BY THE PUBLIC THAT MAY NOT FALL WITHIN THAT, THAT CRITERIA.
AND WHILE THEY MAY BE MEANINGFUL, THEY MAY NOT, THEY SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY SWAY YOUR DECISION UNLESS IT FALLS WITHIN THAT OUTLINE CRITERIA.
UM, ADDITIONALLY IN MAKING YOUR DECISION, UM, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT YOU HAVE FINDINGS OF FACTS AND CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE, THAT SUPPORT, WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAY MAKE.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MOVING FORWARD, FEEL FREE TO ASK AND I'LL ANSWER THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I, ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT, UM, MR. SUTHERLAND HAD TO SAY, THE MAP IS CONFUSING AND THE, AND THE ASK IS ALSO CONFUSING.
UM, WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL AT LEAST TO ME, AS I WAS EVEN GOING THROUGH ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS, WHICH WAS EXTENSIVE.
UM, I, I KEPT GOING TO SAY, JUST TALK TO ME LIKE I'M A FIVE-YEAR-OLD BECAUSE WHILE I STILL THINK THAT I HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THERE IS THERE'S A LOT OF VERBIAGE SPECIFIC TO THAT IS DEFINED IN HERE.
AND YOU'VE GOT TO CROSS REFERENCE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS OR POINTS THAT ARE MADE IN HERE THAT REFERENCE A MAP.
UM, SO ALIGNING THOSE TWO AT THE SAME TIME AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY OF THINGS.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED, UM, UH, SET OF INFORMATION THAT'S BEFORE US.
UH, SO WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, THE WAY THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT MIKE MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO APPROACH IS IT, YOU CAN BRING UP THAT ORIGINAL CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IS NO LONGER EFFECTIVE ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN BRING UP THE NEW ONE TO SAY, THIS IS EXISTING.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO IT.
THIS IS A NEW THING THAT DOESN'T EXIST, JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHERE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, UM, WHICH IS A SEPARATE THING, AND MAYBE I SHOULD WAIT TO ASK IT, BUT THEY HAVE THAT EXEMPTION THAT YOU SPEAK OF ASSOCIATED WITH THE BIG HOUSE.
UM, IF YOU CAN FIND, IF SOMEBODY COULD FIND, IS THERE DOCUMENTATION SOMEWHERE WITHIN THIS 323 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT POINTS TO WHERE IT OUTLINES AND DEFINES THAT EXEMPTION, IT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
UH, YOU CAN START WITH THE MAP AND THEN GO TO THE EXEMPTION OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
I DON'T CARE THAT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
I'M I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH KATHLEEN, AS FAR AS THE MAP AND BEING WITH ALL THE INFORMATION WE'VE GIVEN, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE CONFUSING AND CROSS-REFERENCING SO IF YOU CAN MAYBE JUST DUMB IT DOWN FOR US A LITTLE BIT AND POINT OUT WHAT PLACES ARE, THEY'RE EXEMPT, WHAT'S NEW, WHAT'S PROPOSED, AND MAYBE LIKE THE TIME FRAME, A LITTLE BIT OF WHEN THAT MIGHT'VE HAPPENED.
HOW WILL SOME OF THAT STUFF? CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S FOUR EXISTING DOCS AND THERE'S TWO THAT WERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
HOW DID WE GET TO THE FOREST? YEAH, I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS THEN I'LL, I'LL TRY TO LET YOU DO ALL THE TALKING THEN ASK MY QUESTIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED, NO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD IT, IF YOU DON'T.
SO IF WE COULD, LET'S JUST START LOOKING AT, WE START WITH THE MAP.
SO AS WE SAID, FOUR TYPES OF WATER ACCESS POINTS, AS I SAID, THIS IS NOT A DIAMETER GET A LITTLE SMALLER OR IS IT GOTTA BE THAT BIG? UM, YES.
THAT'S THE BEST QUALITY THAT I CAN GET.
SO UP AT THE TOP PALMETTO BLUFF, YOU'LL SEE THESE, THE DOTS.
THOSE WERE THOSE ORIGINALLY COMMUNITY ACCESS MAY RIVER WITH THE PEER AND PEER HEADS.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE KAYAKS AND CANOES.
AND THAT THOSE ARE RECLASSIFIED AS THAT TYPI KAYAK, BUT ON HERE ON THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT, THIS IS TYPE A, THIS IS COMMUNITY ACCESS.
WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, KAYAKS, THEN OVER ON THE
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NEW RIVER, IT IS HARD TO SEE.KEVIN, YOU WANT HELP? WHY DON'T YOU DRIVE? AND SHE CAN TALK.
MAYBE NOT, IT'D BE HELPFUL, LIKE HOW IT GOES AND MONEY ROUTES, SO.
ACTUALLY I WAS GOING TO GO TO THE POINT ON THE NEW RIVER WHERE THERE'S THE KAYAK THAT WHERE THE CROSSES.
SO THAT'S A KAYAK LAUNCH THAT WAS ALREADY, THERE WE GO.
SO THAT'S, THESE ARE GOES IN THE NEW PLANT THAT STAYS, THAT STAYS AND REMAINS AS A TYPE B.
AND IT IS THERE, OR IT IS NOT THERE CURRENTLY IS NOT THERE.
SO KEVIN, IF YOU WOULD, AND THOSE THREE COMMUNITY ACCESS ALONG MAY RIVER, THOSE ARE THERE, OR THOSE ARE NOT THERE.
AND THOSE ARE NOT ON THE, ON THE PROPOSED PLAN.
IS THAT CORRECT? THEY HAVE BEEN RECLASSIFIED AS KAYAK, SO THEY ARE STILL THERE.
THEY'VE JUST BEEN RECLASSIFIED.
THEY'RE NOT IN THAT LOCATION ANYMORE.
THEY WERE RELOCATED UNDER ANOTHER AMENDMENT AND LAUREN NEMIC WITH WARNER LAW.
THOSE WERE RELOCATED UNDER ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL.
THEY WEREN'T JUST RELOCATED, BUT THERE WAS, UH, AN ORDINANCE THAT MOVED THEM CLARIFY, THIS IS THE FIFTH PROPOSAL.
AND SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE CONCEPT.
SO, AND THEN THE TYPE A S UM, THOSE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WATER ACCESS POINTS.
UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S NONE, NONE WERE IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP.
UM, SO FAR THE ONES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE MAP, THAT FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE OLD LODGE, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE N.
AND THEN MOVING DOWN, YOU HAVE BIG HOUSE.
WHAT AM I MISSING IN THE MIDDLE AND MORELAND LADY.
AND THOSE ARE PROPOSED TYPE A, THOSE ARE EXISTED.
THERE WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCATIONS HAD EXISTING DOCS OF SOME KIND AT THE TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WE NEED TO BE QUIET PUBLIC COMMENTS OVER.
MIKE, DO YOU WANT TO HELP CLAIRE LIKE JUMP IN? CAUSE I AM MORE OF THE DETAIL, MIKE, IF YOU WANT TO HELP CLARIFY WHAT THEY'RE NOT THERE.
I THINK THE SIMPLEST WAY TO REVIEW IT RIGHT.
IS WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, RIGHT? SO AS YOU WORK FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, AGAIN, IF WE GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO 1998 AND 2001, THERE WERE DOCKS ON, UP IN THE HEADWATERS, IN THE NEW RIVER, THEY'VE ALL BEEN RELOCATED.
AND WHAT WE HAVE ARE, YOU'VE GOT WILSON POINT DOC, WHICH IS THE FIRST KAYAK DOCK.
YOU THEN GOT THE CLUB DOCK, WHICH IS THE SECOND DOCK.
YOU'VE GOT WILSON LANDING, WHICH IS WHERE THE DRY STACK IS.
THE NEXT ONE IS WHERE THE TOWN DOCK IS LOCATED.
AND THE LAST ONE OUT THERE THAT IS THE GRACE DOCK, WHICH IS THE OLD LODGE DOCK.
SO TODAY THESE ARE THE DOCS THAT ARE CURRENTLY INSTALLED.
AND IF YOU GO DOWN, THERE WAS A PLAN AT ONE POINT TO PUT A DOCKET PARKS LANDING.
AND THAT WAS SHOWN UP ON THE, UH, THE MASTER PLAN.
WE DID NOT HAVE ONE AT PARKS LANDING.
WE HAVE THE EXISTING BOAT RAMP, THAT'S AT MORELAND.
SO THAT IS A TOTAL OF SIX THAT ARE THERE TODAY.
UM, AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER, THAT WILL NOT CHANGE AND CANNOT CHANGE BECAUSE IT WAS AN ENTITLED RIGHT.
SO THAT IS THE LOCATION IS LOCATED ON THE FAR RIGHT.
TECHNICALLY THAT WAS THAT ONE'S NOT THERE, BUT IT IS NOT WITHIN THE ENTITLED RIGHTS OF PALMETTO BLUFF.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HELD BY CHIP CAMPBELL.
IT IS, IT IS STILL WITHIN THE PUD, BUT IS OUTSIDE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT HAPPENED YET, BUT
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HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO IT ANYTIME.SO THAT'S SIX CURRENT EXISTING ONE THAT IS NOT BUILT, BUT IT HAS THE RIGHT TO BE BUILT.
AND SO AS YOU MOVE DOWN, RIGHT, WE HAVE THE BIG HOUSE MARINA AND THAT'S LOCATION THAT WAS ALWAYS PLANNED IS ON THE MASTER PLAN.
NOW THAT'S BEEN BUILT THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT, BUT WE HAVE AN ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMITS AND IT KNOWS YOUR OWN PERMIT TO BUILD IT.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S 186 WET SLIPS, LAUREN.
UM, IT IS AN EXISTING LOCATION, RIGHT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE ALREADY NOT BUILT, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THEY'RE IN THE CORRECT.
SO IN TERMS OF, THERE WAS, AGAIN, THERE WAS LESS CLARITY ON WHETHER EXISTING ENTITLED RIGHTS COUNTED AND THERE WAS NOT SOMETHING TO FIND SPECIFICALLY AS TO WHETHER THE TOWN DOC, BECAUSE IT WAS DEDICATED AS AN ENTITLEMENT TO THE TOWN, OR IT WAS A TOWN ENTITLEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY A, A BLUFF ENTITLEMENT AS TO WHETHER THAT COUNTED AGAINST US.
SO PART OF THIS WAS BRI GOING THROUGH AND SAYING, THIS IS THE TIME WE SHOULD BE CLEANING UP THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING AND WHAT WE HAVE ALIGNS WITH THE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE OF WHAT'S IN THERE.
AND THE KAYAK DOCS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I THINK THERE'S AN INTERPRETATION.
THAT'S STILL SAYS CRAB DOCS, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED AND CONSTRUCTED AT THE ONSET OF THE PROPERTY AS A KAYAK DOCK.
WHAT'S THE LAST ONE IT GETS KEVIN'S GOT, SO THAT IS DOUGHBOY ISLAND.
AND THAT IS A, I MEAN, THAT'S A LOCATION THAT'S LOCATED ON THE ADJACENT ISLAND TO THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOT EXISTING, WE'VE BEEN APPROVED.
AND THEN IT GOES IN A MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS NEW ONE FOR APPROVAL AND LONG ISLAND.
AND THOSE, SO THERE ARE, THOSE ARE TWO TIGHT BAY LOCATIONS, RIGHT? SO THOSE WOULD BE NEW DOCS IN LOCATIONS WHERE THERE WERE NOT DOCS BEFORE.
SO WE STILL HAVE THE, WE HAVE TWO KAYAK DOCS.
SO WE SPOKE ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S AT THE POINT AND THE ONE THAT'S A CANOE CLUB, ONE MORE KAYAK DOCK AT A, YET TO BE DETERMINED LOCATION.
UM, AT ONE POINT DOWN, IF YOU TAKE MORELAND ROAD, IF EVERYONE KNOWS THE PROPERTY YOU'VE GOT, UM, KOHL'S IS LOCATED THERE.
AND THE BEND TO COLLEAGUES CREEK CUTS RIGHT UP AGAINST THERE.
AT ONE POINT WE HAD PLANNED TO PUT A DOCK THERE AFTER WE DID BATHYMETRIC SURVEY, IT DIDN'T WORK.
SO THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ASSESSMENTS OF THE WATERWAYS AND MAKE SURE IT'S COMPLIANT AND ADHERES TO WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR A WATER ACCESS POINT.
SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THERE TODAY, YOU'VE GOT THE FIVE THAT ARE UP THERE.
YOU'VE GOT THE ONE IN MORELAND AND YOU'VE GOT THE PERMANENT MARINA.
ARE WE ASKING? OR JUST SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THE, SO THERE ARE FOUR LOCATIONS ON HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY THAT WERE EXISTING.
SO ALL WE'RE SAYING IS TO CLARIFY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY WERE EXISTING PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THEY ARE NOT APPLIED TO WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR.
SO WE'RE STILL ONLY ASKING FOR THREE NEW TAIPEI LOCATIONS, AND WE ARE STILL ONLY ASKING FOR THREE CAG DOCS, WHICH IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE PLUS ONE, WHICH IS THE CAMPBELL'S AND IT WAS ALWAYS KIND OF FRAMED AS A PLUS ONE ON THE NEW RIVER.
SO, SO IT'S MORE CLARIFICATION ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE FOUR EXISTING LOCATIONS, WHICH BREED HAS VERIFIED WERE HISTORICALLY LOCATED IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S DOCUMENTED, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT MAKING UP WHETHER THERE WERE ACCESS POINTS AT THESE LOCATIONS.
THEY WERE THERE, THAT THEY ARE CLARIFIED IS NOT PART OF THE ASSIGNED RIGHTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR NEW ACCESS LOCATIONS, ACTUALLY SCHOOL DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION THERE.
THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY FOR MORELAND LANDING.
FROM THE, UM, AN INITIAL STUDY OF ARCTIC ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES THAT YOU DIDN'T CAN'T PERFORMED BACK IN 1994.
AND THIS IS JUST A, GIVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE OF WHERE, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE DOWN ACTUALLY SHOWS THE DRAWING OF THE SITE WITH THE BOAT RAMP FOR THAT SPECIFIC ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE.
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WELL, YOU HAVE THE LANDING IN PLACE AND THE TYPE A INCLUDES, UM, LANDINGS AND, UM, COURTESY DOCKS ALL IN ONE, OH MAN, WE CAN'T SPEAK IN PUBLIC, BUT IT WAS A LAND PRAIRIE, WHICH IS PART CALLED THE TITLE.I I'M STILL, I'M STILL LIKE, VERY CONFUSED ABOUT, OKAY.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S THREE KAYAK DOCKS THAT WERE PLANNED FOR THE MAY RIVER.
THEY'VE SOMEHOW BEEN RELOCATED SOMEWHERE IN PALMETTO BLUFF OR ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS.
THEY WERE COMMUNITY ACCESS, WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN RETITLED TYPE A THAT HAVE BEEN RELOCATED IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT PALMETTO BLUFF.
BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THAT ALIGNED AND IF THERE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE NEW THINGS BEING ADDED THAT WEREN'T.
SO THE KAYAK DOCK WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS ON NEW RIVER, BUT NOW WE'RE ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL KAYAK DOCS ON WHATEVER THAT THAT'S NOT COOPER RIVER YEAH.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS IT ALL STILL ON NEW RIVER? SO WE ARE NOT PLANNING ANYTHING ON THE MAY RIVER ANYMORE.
I GOT THAT MAY RIVER OUTSTANDING WATER RESOURCE.
WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
CAN YOU SHOW AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND JUST TELL US WHERE THE LOCATIONS, LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY AND HOW MANY IS IT TOTAL AND WHAT IS IT IMPACTING? THERE'S A LIST RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT'S THE TOTAL LIST, RIGHT? SO MAY RIVER THREE, THAT'S THE ONES AT THE TOP, MAY RIVER THREE, THAT'S THOSE FIRST THREE AT THE TOP PIPE, A NEW THREE.
SO LIKE, IF WE'RE IN THE ORIGINAL, I JUST WANT TO LIKE TRY AND GET CLARIFICATION WHEN WE'RE READING TYPE A NEW THREE.
W WHAT IS THAT AND HOW DOES THAT CORRELATE TO PROPOSED? SO WE TECHNICALLY HAVE DONE THE TOWN DOC WOULD BE IN A LOCATION THAT'S NEW AS OF THUS FAR, THAT WOULD BE ANY SORT OF NAVIGABLE DOC.
SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVEN'T BUILT ANY TYPE HAYES YET FIND TAIPEI AGAIN, OR THERE'S JUST BASICALLY A REGULAR DOC WITH FLOAT YOUR HEAD IN AND TALK JUST TO, SO IT COULD BE SO, SO I'M SORRY, A TYPE, A BRIEF, THERE'S A TOTAL DEFINITION OF IT COULD BE ABOUT RANTING LANDING.
IT COULD EMBARKATION DEBARKATION, IT COULD BE A MARINA.
IT COULD BE, UM, COULD BE A WIDE VARIETY OF IT'S PRETTY MUCH EXCEPT THE KAYAK DOCK, RIGHT.
AND THAT CAN BE ON THE BOY ISLAND.
AND THAT COULD BE ON LONG ISLAND, THOSE TYPE, THAT TYPE.
AND THOSE ARE, THAT IS WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO OF OUR THREE TO BE THOSE SOUND FAIRLY DEVELOPED, LIKE A FAIRLY DEVELOPED TYPE OF, I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO ME, WHAT I'M HEARING.
WE WOULDN'T PUT, WE'RE ONLY PUTTING THE MARINA AT BIG HOUSE.
THAT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THE TYPE A SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THESE SMALL ISLANDS.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WHATEVER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE MAY RIVER HAS NOW BEEN MOVED DOWN TO DOUGHBOY AND TO LONG ISLAND, THE TWO OF THE THREE, AT LEAST THOSE HAVE BEEN MOVED DOWN HERE.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT WOULD, WHAT IS PLANNED OR WHAT IS WE BELIEVE WILL HAPPEN IS A SIMPLE PIER HEAD AND A SIMPLE FLOAT ON THAT ISLAND.
RIGHT? SIMILAR TO WHAT THE TOWN DOCK IS.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO APPROACH THE WATER.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A MARINA.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, WELL, WE CAN DO A BOAT LANDING, A FLOATING DOCK AND MARINA ALL IN TYPE A, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SAY, DO TYPE A, AND THEN YOU JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AND THEN IT IMPACTS EVERYBODY.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO CLARIFY? SO PART OF THE CLARIFICATION WAS ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS ON DOCKSIDE FUEL AND DRY STACK.
THOSE ARE ONLY SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED AND DOCKSIDE.
AND THE DRY STACK IS CURRENTLY STATED AS ONE LOCATION, NEW LOCATION, IT'S QUESTIONABLE, WHETHER IT COULD BE AT EXISTING LOCATIONS, BUT WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT DRY STACK AT BIG HOUSE AND HANSON.
SO, AND AGAIN, MARINA AND ANSON, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE FULL TERM IS FOUR.
SO IN YOUR PROPOSED REVISION, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A VERY CLEAR IN YOUR PROPOSED REVISIONS.
THE VERBIAGE HAS CHANGED TO DEFINE WHAT EACH PLACE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE SO THAT YOU CAN'T JUST ARBITRARILY
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DECIDE SINCE I CAN DO TYPE A, I CAN PUT THIS DOCKING FUEL HERE, EXCEPT EXCEPT THE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES THAT AS AN ALLOWANCE, OTHERS, I'M SAYING IT'S IN THAT PROPOSED REVISIONS, LIKE IT'S SPELLED OUT EXACTLY WHICH PLACE YOU CAN DO.RILEY, I MEAN, KATHLEEN, DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP MULLING OVER STUFF AND THEN LET CHARLIE GET HIM, RON JASON, ANYBODY WHERE'S.
WHERE WAS THAT TEXT ABOUT THE EXEMPTION 90.3 4.29 DOT FOUR DOT E.
IS THIS A PART OF THE APPLICANT WITHIN THE APPLICATION, THIS EXEMPTION, OR IS THIS OUTSIDE OF THE APPLICATION THAT THIS IS IN THE APPLICATION? AND SO UP ON THE SCREEN, UM, THE RUBBER PROTECTION EVERLANE STANDARD IT'S LOCATED IN ATTACHMENT ONE OF THE PALMETTO BLUFF BEAUTY CONCEPT PLAN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, IT'S THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE BEAVER COUNTY.
AND IT CALLS FOR PUMPING A FUEL IS NOT PERMITTED AT DOCKS, FISHING, PIERS OR BOAT LANDINGS.
WHAT ELSE WILL UPON THE WATERS OF THE DISTRICT EXCEPT FOR EXISTING DUCKS, PIERS, MARINAS, AND BOAT LANDINGS AND COMMERCIAL USE.
SO WE ADOPTED IT AS PART OF THE STANDARDS FOR THAT APPLY TO PALMETTO BLUFF.
DID WE ADOPT THAT AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT IN 1998? SO BECAUSE THERE WAS A RAMP THAT'S CONSIDERED A LANDING, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE SAYING YES, THE LANDING, UM, AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY A DOCK DOWN AT BIG HOUSE.
THEY DEFINE LAND BOAT LANDING.
IT DOESN'T GO FURTHER INTO DEPTH INTO THAT.
SO IT'S A BIT OPEN TO INTERPRETATION WHAT THAT MEANS.
I MEAN, WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND OUR DETERMINATION IS THAT IT WAS AN EXISTING, I MEAN, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, EVEN OUTSIDE OF THIS, MY, OKAY.
SO CAN THERE, MAYBE THERE'S A CLARIFICATION FOR THIS IN SOME CAPACITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE RULING DOCUMENT IS, BECAUSE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THIS IS COVERED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IF I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND IT STATES NO FUELING ON THE WATER.
SO HOW IS IT WE GET OUT OF THAT BECAUSE OF THIS, HOW DOES THIS, YOU SERVE THAT? AND THAT'S PART OF THE FUNCTION.
THAT'S PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF, IT CALLS FOR THE, UM, RESTRICTION EXCEPT FOR, UM, KIND OF FALLS THE RIVER PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT, MOVING ON TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, THEN IT CALLS FOR, UM, RESTRICTIONS OF THE DOCKSIDE FUELING.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE MODIFICATIONS, WHICH ARE IN PLACE AS PART OF IT ALL THREE WORK TOGETHER, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TRUMPS, UM, ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING ELSE WHEN THERE'S IN COMPLEX.
SO BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE THE EXEMPTION THAT WOULD APPLY.
SO WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY STATES NO FUELING OVER THE WATER, THERE WAS ANOTHER PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE THERE'S, IT'S CONFLICTING WITH ITS OWN STATEMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE HIERARCHY SET UP IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO IF YOU WANT UNDER THESE TEMPLATES, SO WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THERE'S A HIERARCHY OF HOW IT'S TO BE INTERPRETED OF INFORMATION THAT'S STATED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WHICH SAYS THEN THAT ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN REFERENCING THE MODIFICATIONS FROM THE CDO, THE ADSO ACTUALLY YOU SERVE THE TEXT THAT SAYS, IN THIS CASE, NO FUELING IS ALLOWED OVER WATER.
SO THE OLD CTSO WOULD APPLY EVEN THOUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE IT REFERENCES THE DZ CSO IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT INSTEAD WHERE IT SAYS THIS, WHERE IT IS ALLOWED, BECAUSE IT'S EXISTING, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS ELSEWHERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IT'S NOT ALLOWED, THIS STILL PRESS TAKES PRECEDENCE.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
COMMON SENSE HAS TO PREVAIL AT SOME POINT.
THIS IS, I MEAN, YOUR INTENT IS VERY CLEAR IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THIS IS NOT QUESTIONABLE FROM MY STANDPOINT.
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TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I AM VERY, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE BASE THIS OFF THE CRITERIA AND THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE SET BEFORE US, BUT I CAN'T, I'M HAVING, I'M HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME THAT HIERARCHY IS, IS STRUCTURED THROUGH ALL OF THE, UM, PLANNING UNIT, TWO ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE.UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE, THE FUEL OVER THE WATER ASPECT, BUT IN ANY ASPECTS W DOWN TO LANDSCAPING AND PARKING STANDARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S DEPENDING ON WHERE ITEMS ARE LOCATED IN THAT HIERARCHY OF DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE'RE SAYING, IT, IT IT'S SUPERSEDES, YOU KNOW, IT MAY HAVE A CONFLICTING ITEM IN THE Z DSO, BUT THAT OVER, OVER RULES THAT REQUIREMENT DOWN THERE IS, IS THIS SOMETHING RICHARDSON THAT I KNEW WERE, UM, EVEN A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TABLE TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, CAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL JUST NOT SURE WHAT'S EXACTLY HAPPENING THAT MAKE ONE STATEMENT.
WHAT BREE HAS ASKED US TO DO IS ELIMINATE FUEL DOCKSIDE KILL AT ANY LOCATION, BUT ONE, RIGHT NOW IT IS QUESTIONABLE WHETHER WE HAVE IT AT EVERY EXISTING LOCATION, WE'RE SAYING ONE LOCATION NOR THE LOCATIONS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S RESTRICTED IS NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUGH.
WE, I MEAN, WE WANT TO KNOW LIKE WHAT THE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS HAD.
WE, I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING UP FROM KATHLEEN ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE ABOUT INFORMATION THAT WE FEEL WE DON'T HAVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, OR THAT'S NOT CLEAR WE CAN'T DIGEST IT.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE DELAY SO THAT WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION? I'LL DEFER TO RICHARDSON.
THE TWO OF US WERE TALKING, SO PLEASE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE THAT THERE, THERE THERE'S INFORMATION THAT FROM KATHLEEN ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DIGEST THIS, TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
LIKE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE IN THE FORUM AMENDMENTS BEFORE THIS ONE.
UM, WE'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THE DOCK IS, AND, AND WE'RE STILL NOT WRAPPING OUR HEADS AROUND IT.
SO THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS CAN WE TABLE THIS TO GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO GET FROM STAFF SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF CLEAR CONVERSATION AND THEN GIVE A CLEAR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL? YEAH.
AGAIN, THEORETICALLY YOU CAN, THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, UH, ELIMINATING THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO MAKE AN ACTION, MAKE SOME ACTION TONIGHT, UM, WHICH WOULD BE EITHER, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, EXCUSE ME, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.
CERTAINLY IF THE APPLICANT IS ONBOARD WITH TABLING SO THAT Y'ALL CAN GET MORE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO DO SO AND TO EXPRESS IT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, AND CONSENT TO Y'ALL TABLING IT.
BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THAT THE VERY NOTION OF TABLING IS TO PAUSE SO YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU NEED TO GET.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN'T TABLE WITHOUT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.
NO, SIR, IF YOU CAN, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TABLE IT, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE ALSO TIME CONSTRAINTS WHEN DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE.
AND SO THAT COULD COME INTO CON THOSE COULD COME INTO CONFLICT.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT THE APPLICANT CONSENT AND THAT WILL KIND OF ALL THOSE TIMEFRAMES SO THAT WE'RE ALL IN COMPLIANCE AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE THIS PROCESS FORWARD.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T KIND OF HAVE A BOTTLENECKING OF THESE APPLICATIONS.
THAT'S THAT TIME CONSTRAINT, SOUTH CAROLINA CODE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
AND THEN THAT, THAT CAN'T BE DELAYED BY 30 DAYS.
SO TINY GENERAL CODE IN SOUTH KOREA, TECHNICALLY APPLICATIONS FOR THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF APPLICATIONS THAT REQUIRE A DECISION TO BE MADE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.
WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME ON 60 DAYS? SO THE 60 DAY TIMEFRAME IS FOR AGAIN, FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF APPLICATIONS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, AGAIN, JUST GOING TO BE ABUNDANT AS CLEAR AS I CAN WITH Y'ALL AS I USUALLY TRY TO BE, IT IS A LITTLE BIT QUESTIONABLE AS TO WHETHER A CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT OR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT 60 DAY TIMEFRAME, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, AS YOU ALL KNOW WITH SOUTH CAROLINA LAW, DOESN'T SAY EACH AND EVERY SINGLE TYPE OF APPLICATION WHERE THIS COULD, THIS COULD RUN INTO CONFLICT.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THE GENERAL, JUST IN GENERAL OPINION,
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THAT LET'S TRY TO PROCESS ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS WITHIN THAT 60 DAY TIMEFRAME SO THAT OUR FAILURE TO ACT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE AN APPROVAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU FAIL TO ACT, IT CONSTITUTES AN APPROVAL.SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE APPLICANT ON BOARD SO THAT THAT TIMEFRAME CAN BE TOLD.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY PREDOMINANTLY OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
AND TYPICALLY THE APPLICANT WILL CONSENT BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE HBC OR THE BZA IS LOOKING AT TABLING AN APPLICATION, IT'S THE ALTERNATIVE IS NOT NEARLY AS BENEFICIAL.
I KNOW WHAT MY VOTE WILL BE IF WE CAN TABLE IT.
WELL, I THINK, UM, SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD DEFER A LITTLE BIT TO THE APPLICANT TWO.
I THINK WE HAVE MR. MR. DALLAS WOULD HERE, UM, AS TO WHETHER TO CHANGE.
MY DALLAS WOULD HAVE BEEN AT PAMELA BLUFF FOR GOSH, ALMOST 16 YEARS NOW.
UM, I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT FINE TO TABLE THIS.
UM, I BELIEVE PERSONALLY TO ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING.
UM, I WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED FOR A UNIFORM DECISION.
UM, I'M PUTTING MY PAMELA BLUFF PROPERTY OWNER HAT ON AS WELL.
UM, I HOPE THOSE IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE KNOW ME.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE FINE WITH, WITH THAT.
UM, I, I APPRECIATE THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I WISH I COULD HAVE GOT UP AND, AND, AND HELP EXPLAIN IT, BUT, UM, IF Y'ALL NEED TIME, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE TIME AND WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND WE HAVE WATER QUALITY STUDIES.
THIS NEEDS TO BE A, UM, THIS NEEDS TO BE, Y'ALL NEED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH TABLE AND I MEAN, WE'LL GET YOU TO ANYTHING YOU NEED.
UM, WE'LL HAVE OUR COMMITMENT FOR THAT MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
UM, UM, IF YOU DO SO CHOOSE TO TABLE IT, UM, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS, QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, UM, THAT WAY WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO, TO BRING THAT, UM, MODIFIED INFORMATION BACK TO YOU.
AND IF I MAY, I WAS STARTING TO WRITE SOME OF THESE ITEMS DOWN.
ONE WAS, UM, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE FOUR PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS.
UM, WE RELATE TO, WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR, FOR THIS ONE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED THE TIMELINE OF THAT.
I'M LIVING IN NATURE THEN KATHLEEN, YOU HAD A FEW AND YEAH, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT HIERARCHY OF TEXTS.
AND, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S APPLICABLE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SPECIFIC TO THIS, BECAUSE AS I SAID, I'M LOOKING AT ITEM SEVEN WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE IT SAYS DOCS AND WATER ACCESS ITEM C, WHERE IT SAYS NO FUELING FACILITIES WILL BE LOCATED AT THIS POINT, WHICH THEY'RE WERE REFERRING, I'M SORRY, THEY REFERRING TO NEW RIVER AT THAT POINT, BUT THERE THERE'S OTHER PLACES I FOUND AND I COULD MAKE, I COULD GO FIND REFERENCES WHERE I FOUND IT IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT SANOFI ALEXIS.
SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, OR IT'S IN CON WHERE THERE IS ANY CONFLICT WHERE, HOW, HOW THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND AND SEE VERY CLEARLY WHAT IT GOES BACK TO AND COMMISSIONER DONK.
AND WE WILL HAVE THAT RESPONSE FOR YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND IF I, IF I MAY, I, I BELIEVE THE OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU HAD IS TO SIMPLIFY IT, THIS THING THAT'S ALLOWED, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
AND WHAT THOSE USES, LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE THE TYPE A AND THE B AND THE WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THOSE, IS THERE AN EQUIVALENT TO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WE WOULD USE V FOR VEHICULAR USE THAT'S APPLICABLE TO BOAT USAGE? IS THERE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE THAT ON MARINAS IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC THEY GENERATE PER SLIP? I, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WOULD FALL MUCH OR A LITTLE BIT MORE WITHIN THE, UM, OCRM DX PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE TO YOU AND SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT EITHER THE REGULATORY AGENCIES SAID ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
IF THEY'VE RESPONDED AT ALL, CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION TOO ON, LIKE, I KNOW WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUELING AND, UM, POLLUTION OF THE RIVER AND THE ONE THAT, WHAT IS THAT BIG HOUSE THAT YOU SAID THAT WAS THE ONLY AREA THAT COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE, WHAT IS THAT THE AREA AND JUST, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW FAR OFF OF THE RIVER, OR WHAT'S THE ACCESS LIKE, OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING
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ABOUT AS FAR AS THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, HAVING THAT FUELING DOCK THERE.LIKE W WHAT IS IT, WHAT KIND OF SPACES IT DID BOATS ARE COMING UP, OR I DON'T WANT FUEL COMING IN THE RIVER.
I, I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING MORE OF ALMOST A SCHEMATIC AS TO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW, NOT EVEN VISUALLY, BUT JUST LAND.
LIKE, HOW IS IT OPERATING? LIKE HOW FAR OFF OF THE RIVER IS MORE OF THE OPERATIONS OF HOW FUEL OVER THE WATER WOULD.
AND THE TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
JUST LIKE THE LAND PLANNING OF LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY EXPECTING TO HAPPEN THERE? I THINK IN TERMS OF EVEN HEALTH AND POLLUTION AND NOISE, AND HOW DOES THAT FUNCTION IN THAT AREA? NO, I'M CONCERNED RELATED TO THAT ABOUT THE LEGAL LEES REGARDING THE FUEL, BECAUSE ONE COMPONENT HERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, HOLD THERE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT ARE SUPERSEDING OR PROCEEDING, HOW DOES THAT ALL RELATE? BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'M OUT ON THAT WATER A LOT AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED CRAFT THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BACK IN 19.
OH, THEIR INTENT AND THEIR INTENT WAS NEVER TO HAVE EVER IN ANY PART, BOUND TO SOMETHING, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TOWN GETTING SUED OR SOMETHING.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A MAJOR THING.
AND THEN WE MAKE, WE DON'T, WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE WILLING TO FIGHT THAT FIGHT IF THERE IS A FIGHT.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU, UM, HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT OF PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO SCRUB OUT A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IN ORDER TO BRING IT FORWARD INTO, TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE DECISION.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS REGARDING THAT ADDITIONAL DRY STACK STORAGE, UM, THAT DOESN'T, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THAT, UH, BY THE DOCUMENTATION.
IS THERE SOME, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S, IS THERE, ARE THEY, IS THERE SOME GIVE IN REGARDS TO THAT? WHAT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND FROM THEIR FUNCTIONALITY STANDPOINT, IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO HAVE THE DRY STACK STORAGE ADDITION DRYSEK STORAGE, WHICH IS NOT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I GET THAT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A D ADDS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND ADDS ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS.
IT ADDS A DENSER ADDITIONAL IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT TO NOISE.
AND, UH, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE IMMUNITY IS BENEFITING FROM IN THIS, OTHER THAN THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE AT STAKE HERE THAN JUST DOLLAR BILLS.
ABOUT 10 MORE, VERY QUIET TODAY.
MY ONLY COMMENT I'M STILL WITH KATHLEEN, I'M SO LOST IN WHAT'S COMING AND GOING, AND WHAT IS EXISTING AND NEW, AND THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE DUMBED DOWN MY OPINION FOR TOWN COUNCIL, WHEN, AND IF IT EVER GOES BIG CHART, I'LL, I'LL WORK ON SIMPLIFYING THAT FOR YOU.
SOME POST-IT NOTES, SOMETHING I KNOW YOU'RE NEW.
I'M IN CONCURRENCE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
WE, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THOUGHTFUL RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
WELL THEN DOES ANYONE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN RECOMMENDATION AND MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'D LIKE, I, I BELIEVE I GOT EIGHT ITEMS HERE, SO I'VE BEEN KIND OF WRITING THEM DOWN IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN KIND OF JUST SUMMARIZE THEM AND MAYBE THAT'LL HELP YOU WITH YOUR YES.
UM, WE REFER TO THE, THE FOUR PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS AND HOW THEY RELATE TO, TO THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS WELL, INCLUDING THE TIMELINE.
UM, THE CLEAR QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, WHAT IS, WHAT IS EXISTING, UM, WHAT'S ALLOWED, UM, WHAT ARE THE WANTING TO HAVE, UM, THE HIERARCHY OF THE TEXTS DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS PROCESS OF DOCS, UM, AND FUEL AS IT RELATES TO THE HIERARCHY OF THE PUD DOCUMENTS, UH, CLEAR UP, UH, EXPLAIN WHAT TYPE A, A IS REFERRING TO, UM, WE'LL LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF, I WROTE DOWN ANY TYPE OF BOAT, TRAFFIC IMPACT
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ANALYSIS, SO TO SPEAK, UM, EITHER THROUGH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER, UH, D HECK, UM, OR ANY OTHER, UH, REGULATORY AGENCIES OUT THERE.UM, AND THEN I PUT THE, YOU WANTED SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THE OPERATION OF THE FUEL AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
AGAIN, UH, THIS IS ALL, IT'S ALL CONCEPTS THAT THEY HAVEN'T TRULY PLANNED THAT OUT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK WITH THE APPLICANT.
UM, YOU HAD SOME LEGAL EASE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE FUELING, UH, HOW IT RELATES TO, TO, TO THIS REQUEST.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRY, DRY STACK STORAGE, UM, AND WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT, UH, OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE TOWN.
WHAT WAS THE SEVENTH ITEM THAT YOU HAD SAID WE'RE REFERRING TO AS MR. YEAH, MR. WETMORE SAID THAT THE LEGAL EASE OF DEALING WITH IT, THE FUEL AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE SITE, AND THEN JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND WHY THE CONCERN THAT MAYBE IT'S, UH, THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE SAID HE HAD AN, HE HAD AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY OF SOME KIND AS A PART OF THIS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT RESPONDED WITH? YES.
SO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE GET THIS INFORMATION TO YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, JUST BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A MATTER, THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S PUBLIC NOTICE THAT GOES OUT 30 DAYS, PUBLIC NOTICES AS MR. RAY JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS.
NOW, IF WE DO A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO A DATE, CERTAIN, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, UH, IN MY OPINION, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REPUBLIC FOR PUBLIC NOTICE PURPOSES, BUT GIVEN THE NATURE, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THIS AND THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE RECEIVED TONIGHT, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO JUMP ALL OVER ME BEFORE I HAVE A CHANCE TO FINISH.
UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PUSH THIS AGAIN TO, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE OCTOBER MEETING ON THE 27TH, SO THAT THAT PUBLIC NOTICE CAN, UH, CAN BE MET.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S, UH, I'M OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RUN THAT TO AN EXTENT BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF THE TIMEFRAME CONCERNS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, BUT ARE YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE THE NEXT MEETING SEPTEMBER 27TH AT A TIME OR TWO DAYS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE 30 DAYS.
SO, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC NOTICE IF WE PUSH IT TO THE OCTOBER, IF WE PUSH IT TO THE OCTOBER MEETING, WE WOULD DO A SECOND PUBLIC NOTICE.
IF WE PUSH IT TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING TIME, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO SO.
SO ULTIMATELY AGAIN, THAT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION.
UM, IT GIVES, IT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE'RE MINDFUL OF THE APPLICANT'S TIME AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH SOUTH CAROLINA LAW.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT, LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.
WELL, UM, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS, WILL THAT BE AN ISSUE FROM YOU TO POSTPONE UNTIL OCTOBER 27TH SO WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC NOTICE MEANING, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE HAPPENS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
UM, ONE OTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS, UH, AS I MOVE FORWARD IS A CLARIFICATION ON THE MAXIMUM MEMBER OF SLIPS THEY INTEND TO USE AND HOW THOSE SLIPS ARE CALCULATED.
UM, IS IT JUST THE MARINA? IS IT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE, THE AGGREGATE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE DOCS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF PALMETTO BLUFF AND HOW THAT'S CALCULATED? BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT WITH 4,000, UH, UNITS THAT WILL ALLOW 400 SLIPS AND, UH, THEY'RE ONLY GOT 186 RIGHT NOW AT THE MARINA WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND.
I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO I'D LIKE SOME, THAT'S WHY I WANT THE CLARIFICATION NOW.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE OCTOBER MEETING OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE.
JUST THE MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL OCTOBER MEETING.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE OCTOBER 27TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? IF I HAVE A SECOND.
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ALL IN FAVOR.I FOUND THOSE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME.
WE ARE ONTO THAT TOOK CARE OF FOUR AND FIVE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE ONTO NUMBER SIX AND I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM NUMBER SIX.
AND SEVEN LADIES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL HAVE EVERYONE QUIET DOWN, PLEASE GO OUT IN THE HALL.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK, PLEASE DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME, BUT YOU CAN'T STAY HERE, PLEASE.
THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M SURE EVERYBODY KIND OF QUIET DOWN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE STARTED THIS APPLICATION, SO WE CAN BE HEARD ON THE RECORD.
UH, TIME FOR, ARE WE DOING ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN TOGETHER? YES, SIR.
TIME FOR ITEM SIX AND SINCE SEVEN ADDRESSING ONE 15 BLUFFTON ROAD, ANNEXATION AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
AND IT'S A PLANNING WORKSHOP, SO NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
UM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR READS ALL THAT INFORMATION OUT, SO I THEN DON'T HAVE TO READ IT, MAN.
SHE DID YOUR JOB FOR YOU SO WELL, UH, SO THIS IS, THIS IS A WORKSHOP, UM, FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS A 100% ANNEXATION, UH, PETITION TO ANNEX CERTAIN REAL PROPERTIES.
THAT'S CONTIGUOUS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CORPORATE LIMITS AND PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTING OF 9.27 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, AND BEARING THE TAX MAP, UM, ID NUMBER AS LISTED ON THE APPLICATION, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO GENERAL MIXED USE PURSUANT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, SO ON, UH, APRIL 13TH, 2021, A TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UH, CONSIDERED AND, UH, PROVIDED DIRECTION, UH, REGARDING THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, REFERRED AS ONE 15 BLUFFTON ROAD, UH, AND ASKED US TO S TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY ANNEXATION APPLICATION AND CONCURRENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
UM, THIS PAST JUNE 29TH, 2021, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN, UM, WITH, UH, LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND TOWN OF BLUFFTON ANNEXATION POLICY, UH, TOWN STAFF, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SUBMITTED 100% AXE ANNEXATION, UH, APPLICATION, UH, FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEN, UH, PURSUANT TO THE ANNEXATION MANUAL, IT'S ALSO HAS A CONCURRENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY TO HAVE A ZONING DESIGNATION OF GENERAL.
COULD YOU CLOSE THE DOOR IN THE BACK PLEASE? OKAY.
WELL, UM, AND THEN, UM, TH THE ANNEXATION MANUAL, WHICH WAS REVISED BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020, IT INCLUDED AN INITIAL STEP, UM, AS INITIAL BRIEFING AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE ANNEXATION PETITION, UH, AND REFER TO THE, AND TO REFER TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, IF IT WAS DEEMED NECESSARY ON JOEL, I'M GIVING YOU A LOT OF DATES HERE ON JULY 18TH, 2021 TOWN COUNCIL VOTED TO ACCEPT THE ANNEXATION PETITION, AND THEY DECLINED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST OF BRINGING THIS IN FORWARD IN FRONT OF THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.
SO, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS HERE TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
UM, AS STATED THERE IS NO VOTE, THIS IS ONLY A WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSION.
DOES IT COME BACK TO US? THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
WELL, AND I'LL, I'LL HAVE A TIMELINE IN HERE TO KIND OF PRESENT THAT INFORMATION.
UH, SO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, UH, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN ON THE MAP, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME REFERENCE POINTS.
UH, BURNT CHURCH DISTILLERY IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THE ROUNDABOUT IS TO THE NORTH.
OUR GRAY SITE IS TO THE NORTH AS WELL.
AND THEN THE SHADY GLENN, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS TO THE SOUTH AND A LITTLE FURTHER OUT AERIAL MAP.
YOU CAN SEE ITS LOCATION, UH, IN CONTEXT WITH THE REST OF THE TOWN.
UM, THE TOWN COUNCIL DURING THAT INITIAL, UM, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THEM, UM, FELT THAT, UM, THEY WANTED TO DO THE ANNEXATION AND DESIGNATED TO THIS, TO THE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, FOR, UM, THE GENERAL MIXED USE.
UH, IT DOES HAVE THE 7.3 ACRES OF UPLAND AND 1.9 WETLANDS, UH, THE FUTURE ANNEXATION
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MAP.UH, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT THE SITE IS LOCATED HERE.
IT'S WITHIN THE FEATURE ANNEXATION.
UH, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT UNDER CURRENT ZONING THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF ALLOWED USES NOW THIS PROPERTY.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MAP HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
IT DOES HAVE A SPLIT ZONING ON IT CURRENTLY HAS THE T4 HAMLET CENTER, UH, WHICH IS A HIGHER INTENSITY TYPE USE LOCATED ALONG BLUFFTON ROAD, AND THEN THE T3 NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH IS THE, THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THESE ARE THE ALLOWED USES, UH, AS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS THE GENERAL MIXED USE, WHICH IS, UM, BESIDES A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS PROBABLY THE, UM, HAS THE MOST LENIENCY RELATED TO, UM, TO DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT ALLOWS FOR, UM, ALMOST ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL TYPE OF USES.
COMMERCIAL USES, UM, LODGING USES THAT ARE ALLOWED, UH, HUMAN HEALTH CARE CIVIC INSTITUTION.
UM, THE, THE INDUSTRIAL, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'D HAVE CONCERNS OF A CONCRETE PLANT OR A JUNK YARD OR MANUFACTURING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS NOT ALLOWED AT THIS LOCATION.
SO FOR YOUR REVIEW PROCESS, YOU CAN SEE, UM, AUGUST 25TH, WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE WORKSHOP.
UM, THE INTENT IS THAT THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU THAT OCTOBER THAT'S A TYPO 21ST.
IT SHOULD BE OCTOBER 27TH, UH, MEETING.
UM, AND THEN INITIALLY FROM THERE, WE'LL GO TO TOWN COUNCIL IN DECEMBER FOR FIRST READING AND, UH, AGAIN TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH A PUBLIC HEARING IN FEBRUARY.
UH, I WENT THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY.
AGAIN, IT'S MEANT TO OPEN UP THE DOCUMENT AND I'M SORRY, BUT I BELIEVE I'VE GOT A SLIDE THAT IS HIDDEN.
SO SOMEHOW, SO THIS IS THE OLD TOWN FIRING RANGE AND DUMP, RIGHT? YOU COULD REFER TO IT THAT WAY.
THERE'S HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE TOWN, CORRECT.
OWNED, OWNED BY THE TOWN SINCE I BELIEVE, UH, LIKE 1949.
AND, UH, WE, UH, UP UNTIL BERNHARDT'S,
UH, TOWN COUNCIL FELT THAT NOW IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO REZONE IT, UM, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD FOR HEARING THEM SHOOTING.
UM, SO KIND OF, AGAIN, NEXT STEPS.
UM, WE'RE PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU, UM, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT THIS HAS BEEN ON, UM, UM, LISTED AS A POTENTIAL SITE FOR, UM, UH, WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, FOR THE, THE TOWN OF, UM, THE TOWN IS IN A NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH A DEVELOPER, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, IT IS UNKNOWN AS TO NUMBER OF UNITS, UH, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, FROM A SITE PLANNING STANDPOINT, WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN THAT FAR.
SO, UM, IT'S JUST THIS, THIS DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR, UM, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, IT MIGHT BE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL FACILITY UP TOWARDS THE FRONT IN ORDER TO OFFSET COSTS.
UM, THIS GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY, UH, TO, TO DO THAT.
NOW, I WILL SAY THAT IT'S OWNED BY THE TOWN.
SO, UH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY AN IN TOWN COUNCIL'S BEST INTEREST AS TO HOW THE SITE WOULD BE DEVELOPED.
AND THEN, UM, IF IT IS ZONE THAT GENERAL MIXED USE, IT WILL HAVE THAT HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO ANY TYPE OF, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPING LIGHTING WILL COME BACK TO YOU AS WELL AS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UH, IF THERE ARE CONCERNS, LIKE, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, WE HAVE NO IDEA, UH, ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT JUST GOING FOR THE ZONING, THE BASE ZONING LAYER, UH, AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UM, I'M CURIOUS, UH, WHY THIS SELECTION OF GENERAL MIXED USE AS THE ZONING
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VERSUS ANY OTHER QUALIFICATIONS SELECTION, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE FEATURE LAND USE MAP OR THAT IT'S THE, UM, THE CLOSEST FOR THAT T4 HAMLET, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT, UM, IT IS, IT GIVES THE MOST FLEXIBILITY, UM, AS TO, AS TO WHAT, UM, WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.AND AGAIN, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, SLATED FOR THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, BUT WE ARE AN IT'S UNKNOWN AS TO WHAT THAT SITE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, IT'S UNKNOWN IF THERE IS, UM, IF THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE FRONT OF IT TO HELP OFFSET THE COST FOR, UM, FOR ANY TYPE OF THESE HOMES, THIS GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A, A RESIDENTIAL CLASSIFICATION, WE KIND OF SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER TYPE OF, OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ACCESSORY CON UH, LIKE COMMERCIAL TYPE USES ON THAT AS A RESIDENTIAL GENERAL, THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT ALLOWS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE RESIDENTIAL GENERAL DEALER WINS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IS IT? NO IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S JUST, IT'S RE RESIDENTIAL USES AFFORDABLE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN ANYTHING.
THAT'S JUST, UM, THAT'S JUST MORE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED TO IT.
UH, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IF IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS OR IT'S $50,000.
THE REASON I ASK IS IT'S IN THE COMPARISON CHART, IT'S SPECIFICALLY IN THERE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO IF THERE WAS A REASON THAT YOU WERE PICKING GENERAL MIXED USE, BECAUSE IT ALLOWED THAT, THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND THE REASON, THE PART OF THE REASON I'M ASKING IS ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP WITH OTHER ANNEXATIONS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IS THIS DISCUSSION OF UP ZONING.
AND WHEN I'M REVIEWING THIS COMPARISON CHART, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE LAND USES, I UNDERSTAND IT IT'S WELL, IT'S, WHAT'S PROVIDING YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT COMMERCIAL, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IN MANY REGARDS, IT ALSO IS.
UM, IT'S, IT, IT IS AN UPSETTING AS BEST I CAN TELL.
IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE AN EQUIVALENT.
WHAT ZONING TRANSLATING ACROSS AND, AND ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THIS SITE IS THAT T4, UH, THE HC, UM, THE LARGER PORTION OF IT IS NOT THAT.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED AT AN OPTION OF HAVING A DUAL ZONE AND THAT'S ARE WHERE THE FRONT IS GENERAL MIXED USE, BUT THEN THE BACK IS MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH MASON, MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATE WITH THE T3 TA TOWN COUNCIL HAS, HAS BEEN VERY SPECIFIC WITH STAFF, UM, AND HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND HAVE MADE IT, I MEAN, THEIR, THEIR MISSION, UM, FOR THIS SITE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON IT.
UM, SO FROM A ZONING CLASSIFICATION STANDPOINT, THEIR, THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO, UM, IS TO PROVIDE AS MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, IF YOU, UM, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THIS AND, UM, I'M DRAWING A BLANK HERE ON MY, MY STATEMENT, UM, THE, THE ABSORBING ASPECT OF IT IN THEIR MINDS, THEY ARE TRYING TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN HAVE AS MANY UNITS AS POSSIBLE.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A, A PRIVATE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL TYPE ENTITY, YES, THAT'S AN, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY CLASSIFIED AS AN UPSWING, BUT THIS IS THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS SPECIFICALLY SAID, AND HAVE, HAVE PLANS TO CALL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THIS LOCATION.
SO, UM, IN, IN REALITY, WHAT WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN IS, UM, ANY TYPE OF USES THERE, UM, WOULD BE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY A DOWNSIDE OWNING, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ALSO FOR MAKING SURE THAT RULES ARE APPLIED EQUALLY TO ALL ENTITIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO ANNEX THAT JUST BECAUSE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON OWNS A PROPERTY SEEKING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
UM, I, FROM A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, I COULD SEE THAT BECOMING A BIT OF A SORE POINT FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS LOOKING AT BEING A PART OF BLUFFTON.
AND NOW I'M, I'M ALL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I'M, AND I, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CORRIDOR, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT GENERAL MIXED USE IS INAPPROPRIATE NECESSARILY.
I WOULD LOVE, I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR WASN'T LOOKING CLOSELY ENOUGH AT IT, UM, TO SEE HOW THAT TRANSLATED WITH THE GENERAL MIXED USE, IF THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS OF AS WE APPROACH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THEIR GOAL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
THEY'RE BEING VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.
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WANT TO BE SENSITIVE STILL TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND NOT WANTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE.UM, EQUITABLY THE RULES ARE FAIR AND EQUITABLY APPLIED WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE A LEGAL ASPECT TO IT TOO.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP IS, IS A GREAT POINT BECAUSE ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS, WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING AN ANNEXATION AND THE POTENTIAL, UM, WHATEVER THE POTENTIAL ZONING MAPPING THEM, IT WILL BE, UM, YOU YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN'T CONDITION THE ZONING MAP ON THERE BEING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLACED AT THAT LOCATION.
YOU CAN'T CONDITION IT ON THIS.
SO YOU DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PERMITTING AT THIS PROPERTY, OBVIOUSLY.
AND WE HEAR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AT THIS MOMENT IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT, DOES OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME SORT OF IMPACT FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE TODAY FROM A WORKSHOP STANDPOINT.
BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK, UH, THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP.
AND THIS DOES SHOW, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, KEVIN, BUT THIS DOES SHOW THAT THERE SHOULD BE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR, YOU KNOW, OBSERVING, BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE, LET'S SEE THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE ASSEMBLY CENTER THAT THEY WANT TO LOOK FOR.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ATTACHMENT NINE TO YOUR PACKAGE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT IN POINTING OUT THAT ONE AND A HALF ACRES DOES SEEM TO CORRESPOND VERY WELL WITH THIS MIXED USE AND YOU HAVE THE SEVEN ACRES, BUT AGAIN, FROM A CONSOLIDATED STANDPOINT, AND RATHER THAN JUST HAVING THIS PIECEMEALED TYPE OF ZONING DISTRICT UP NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF BLUFFTON ROAD AND THE PARKWAY, UM, AND AGAIN, IT MAKES SENSE FOR A CONSOLIDATED ZONING DISTRICT THERE.
SO, UM, THAT'S AGAIN, JUST, JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION.
CAN YOU BRING UP THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND SHOW ME WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS IN REFERENCE TO THAT THIS TINY ON MY LITTLE 11 BUS IN BETWEEN AND HOW THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW WIDE IS, HOW WIDE IS THIS PROPERTY ACROSS THE ALONG WHERE FRONTS? UM, 47, 78 0.39.
I HAPPENED TO BE ON THAT PAGE THAT A SALMON COLOR IS THAT SALMON INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT'S THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP? WAS IT MEDIUM OR LOW? IT LOOKS, IT WAS MEDIUM.
AND THEN THE GROWTH, HERE'S THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S IN THAT SPHERE FOR THE VILLAGE VILLAGE TYPE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
NO, THERE'S NO, NO VOTE ON THIS.
UM, AND WE'RE, WE WILL AS STATED, LET ME GET BACK TO THE, UH, OR HERE OCTOBER.
YES, THERE'LL BE AT THAT OCTOBER.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AT THAT OCTOBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM
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SECOND.GO TO BUFORD COUNTY SC.GOV, SCROLL DOWN TO PUBLIC MEETINGS.
CLICK WATCH NOW, AND THEN CLICK THE VIDEO ON DEMAND BUTTON AND SELECT YOUR PROGRAM FROM BLISS CALL TO ORDER IF YOU'D LIKE A DVD OF THIS PROGRAM, CLICK ON THE LINK ON THE RIGHT AND FILL OUT THE ORDER FORM.
AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THE COUNTY CHANNEL.
I REMEMBER CAMPBELL, AND THIS IS BUFORD CONNIE MOMENTS.
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOOD TODAY.
THE FOOD HAS BEEN A GREAT PART OF OUR LIFE IN TERMS OF GATHERING FOOD AND PREPARING THEM ALL FOOD IS BASED ON THE LAND AND THE SEA.
THE LAND FOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RICE.
WE DON'T FEEL WE HAVE EATEN DINNER UNLESS WE'VE HAD RICE.
RICE WAS MIXED WITH VARIOUS ITEMS FROM THE SEA, LIKE OYSTERS OR SHRIMP.
AND WHEN THEY'RE COOKED WITH RICE IN ONE POT, WE CALL IT A RICE OR SHRIMP OR OYSTER PERLOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE WATERMELONS AND THE SWEET POTATOES, SWEET POTATOES WAS ALWAYS EATEN WITH FISH AND FRESH FISH WITH GRAVY AND A SWEET POTATO.
VOLKER HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FOOD WAYS.
WE RAISED THEM AS WELL AS WE PREPARE THEM WITH SHRIMP AND TOMATOES.
AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THAT A GUMBO.
AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, OKRA GUMBO.
AND SO ENJOY THE FOOD OF THE LOW COUNTRY, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR HISTORY.
THIS HAS BEEN UOP FOOD COUNTY MOMENT TO SEE MORE BEAVER COUNTY MOMENTS, GO TO THE BUFORD COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB.
IT IS MY SINCERE PLEASURE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FOR THE FIRST SHANKEN ROAD EMS STATION THAT WE'VE BUILT.
UM, WE ARE HOPING TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND RESPONSE TIMES IN THIS AREA BY HAVING A STATION HERE.
AND WE JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING.
THE RESPONSE TIMES WILL BE REDUCED.
WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 16,000 CALLS A YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 325 CALLS A WEEK.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ADD STATIONS AND PERSONNEL IS GOING TO BAKE BETTER, SERVE THE COMMUNITY BY HAVING US TO WHERE WE CAN GET TO PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND CRISIS THAT NO QUICKER RESPONSE TIME.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNTY COUNCIL FOR, UM, THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND FILL FOOT BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM, WE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THIS PROJECT COME OFF THE GROUND.
SO AGAIN, WE WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE CEREMONY COMING OUT AND WE KNEW IT WAS A WRITING.
SO WE WEREN'T SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME OUT, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMING OUT IN THE WEATHER AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO SEE OUR NEW STATION.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PHIL FOOT.
WHO'S THE, UM, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY BILL.
THANK YOU FOR STOPPING THE RAIN LIKE I ORDERED.
UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TODAY.
UM, THIS IS A BIG DAY FOR US AND B PER COUNTY.
UH, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THOSE AND GETTING US TO THIS POINT.
UH, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT THE HELP OF EVERYBODY THAT ACTUALLY IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, STANDING OUT THERE,
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UH, THAT WAS WATCHING ON LIVESTREAM ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND ON THE COUNTY CHANNEL, UH, THAT WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT HERE TODAY IN PERSON.SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THANK EVERYBODY THAT HAD A HAND IN PUTTING THIS STATION TOGETHER AND GETTING US TO THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN UP.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT SUPPORT OUT HERE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
UH, I'M THANKFUL FOR EVERYBODY THAT HAS SHOWN UP.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS OUT THERE, UH, THAT PARTNER UP WITH US AT BEAVER COUNTY EMS, UH, OUR PERSONNEL, OUR MTS AND PARAMEDICS ARE, UH, OUTSTANDING PARAMEDICS AND EMT.
THEY SERVE THE COMMUNITY WELL, AND WE'RE SO VERY PROUD OF THEM AND WITHOUT OUR TEAM.
AND I MEAN, OUR TEAM IS OUR PARTNERS.
THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT'S STANDING OUT HERE RIGHT NOW AND EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING.
UH, I LOOK OUT AND I SEE, UH, OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT WORK CLOSELY WITH US ON OUR MISSION, ALONG WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE I WANT TO THANK ALSO IS SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT SEEN AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE TEAM.
AND, UH, THAT'S OUR DISPATCHERS.
THEY TAKE ALL THE CALLS, BUT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GET TO SEE THEM.
AND, UH, THEY'RE OUT THERE HELPING US EVERY DAY WITH THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE.
SO THEY'RE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS TEAM TOO.
AND SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO EVERY DAY.
I WOULD BE REMISSED IF I DIDN'T POINT OUT A FEW PEOPLE OUT HERE, UH, ESPECIALLY MY SUPERVISOR.
SO, UH, MY INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, MY SUPERVISOR, ERIC GREENWAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND OUR INTERIM DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ROBERT
ALSO, WE HAVE SOME CELEBRITIES OUT HERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS A FORMER DIRECTOR OF EMS, RUSTY HOLLINGS WORK.
I LIKE TO THANK HIM, UH, FOR HELPING GET THIS SYSTEM TO WHERE IT'S AT AND WITHOUT ANOTHER SPECIAL PERSON, UH, ED ALLEN, WHO WAS OUR FORMER EMS DIRECTOR, WHO WAS THE FORMER CORONER OF BUFORD COUNTY.
UH, I DON'T THINK THE EMS SYSTEM WOULD BE WHAT IT IS TODAY, IF IT WAS NOT FOR HIM.
SO IF EVERYBODY WOULD GIVE, UH, AT A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE, HE GOT US TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
UH, I SEE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, I WISH I COULD HAVE TIME TO THANK EVERYBODY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY BACK.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I DO SEE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE OUT HERE.
UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY AND SUPPORTING US AND THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US EVERY DAY.
AS WE DO OUR JOBS EVERY DAY, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH BUSINESS AND, UH, WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE TEAMWORK THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY A STATION FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, UM, THIS STATION IS NOT JUST A STATION.
IT'S A TESTAMENT TO YOU FOR COUNTY COUNCIL'S COMMITMENT TO THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF BEAVER COUNTY, UH, THAT THEY WANT US TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS.
AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT GETTING STATIONS LIKE THIS ONLINE AND HAVING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
SO I REALLY LIKE TO THANK COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THEIR EVERYDAY SUPPORT.
UH, ALWAYS HAVING PUBLIC SAFETY DIVISION, UM, HELPFUL.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR COUNTY COUNCIL AND ASK FOR FUNDING, UH, THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE TO SUPPORT US AND WE THANK THEM FOR THAT.
AND BEFORE I RELINQUISH, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO, UM, OUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT ONE, WHICH THIS STATION IS IN.
UM, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW COUNCILMAN DAWSON WAS A PARAMEDIC FOR BUPA COUNTY EMS. AND SO, UM, HE DOES HAVE A SPECIAL TIE WITH US AND THAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT.
AND SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL THAT HE'S HERE, UH, TO BE PART OF THIS GRAND OPENING.
AND SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL THAT, UH, HE'S GOING TO SPEAK AND I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.
SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR COMING TODAY.
AND, UH, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO COUNSELING AND GERALD DAWSON
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OF DISTRICT ONE.GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE THIS MORNING AS THE CONZIE CONNIE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE, I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR BEING IN ATTENDANCE THIS MORNING, UH, AS WE CELEBRATE THE GRAND OPENING OF THE SHANKLIN EMS STATION, DUE TO THE CONTINUED GROWTH IN THE COUNTY PLANNING FOR THIS NEW FACILITY STARTED IN 2014, UH, FOR ONE OF THE NEW STATIONS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
AND ONE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
UH, THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN, UH, COMPLETED FIRST WITH THE OTHER AND THE SOUTHERN COUNTY TO COME ON LATER IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR, THE STATION WAS DESIGNED BY COURT ATKINS AND CONSTRUCTED BY A FRAZIER CONSTRUCTION THAT BUFORD COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PROVIDED PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, ANDREA ATHERTON AND WEST CAMPBELL AND, UH, BRITTANY FIELDS.
LET'S GIVE THEM A HAND IF YOU WILL.
THIS STATION WILL BE MANNED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
UH, IT WILL HOUSE ONE AMBULANCE, UH, WITH TWO CREW MEMBERS AND A QUICK RESPONSE, UH, VEHICLE, UH, BETTER KNOWN AS A QR V.
AND THERE WILL BE ONE CREW MEMBER TO THAT, UH, QR RV, THE FACILITY, AND THE CREWS WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION FOR RESPONDING TO MEDICAL EMERGENCIES FOR ALL CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF BUFORD COUNTY.
THIS STATION WILL PROVIDE SERVICE TO MEDICAL 9 11, 9 11 CALLS FROM HIGHWAY 21, UH, TO THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 17, UH, ONE 70 JOE FRAZIER, ALL THE WAY OUT TO LAUREL BAY.
AND FROM HIGHWAY 21 TO BRUCE K SMALLS DRIVE ON BEHALF OF YOUTH COUNTY CONSOLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH AND EVERY STAFF MEMBER OF EMS AND EVERY EMS PERSONNEL FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO TO SAVE LIVES EVERY DAY AND PROVIDE THE BEST MEDICAL SERVICE TO ALL THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES OF BUFORD COUNTY.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF EMS, UM, MS. DONNA ONB FOR HER LEADERSHIP.
ON A HISTORICAL NOTE, UM, THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN BUILT NEAR THE GROUNDS OF, UH, WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE PORT RAW AGRICULTURAL SCHOOL LATER RENAMED AS THE BUFORD COUNTY TRAINING SCHOOL, BUT CURRENTLY KNOWN AS THE OLD SHANKLIN SCHOOL.
THIS AREA REPRESENTS THE RICH HISTORY OF BUFORD COUNTY AND ITS RESIDENTS, THE HISTORICAL MARKER, WHICH IS OUR FRONT OVER HERE, UH, HISTORICAL MARKER, NUMBER 50, UH, DEDICATING THIS AREA AS A SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL MARKER.
UM, AS I SAID, IS LOCATED OUT FRONT FOR ALL THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS TO READ OF THE HISTORY AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE OLD SHANKLIN SCHOOL THAT WAS, UH, ON THE SITE NEAR HERE, BUFORD COUNTY EMS BEGAN IN 1974.
IT WAS HOUSED AT BUFORD MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, SERVING THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF DIFFERENT COUNTY AS THE POPULATION GREW.
SO DID EMS ADDING MORE EMPLOYEES AND AMBULANCES TO PRESTIGIOUS ONLY PLACED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY HOUSE WITHIN LOCAL FIGHTERS? HOWEVER, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS DAY IS THAT WE ARE HERE CELEBRATING THE GRAND OPENING OF THIS NEW FACILITY, WHICH IS THE FIRST STANDALONE EMS STATION IN THE COUNTY THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID, LET US PREPARE NOW FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING AND OFFICIALLY OPENED THIS NEW S A NEW EMS STATION.
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET ME SAY A PRAYER OF BLESSING, THE FACILITY AND THE, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT WILL HOUSE THIS, LET US PRAY IF YOU WILL, MOST HOLY AND EVERLASTING GOD FATHER.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVING KINDNESS.
WE THANK YOU GOD, FOR YOUR SAVING GRACE THROUGH YOUR BELOVED SON, JESUS, THE CHRIST.
WE THANK YOU FOR AWAKENING US THIS MORNING AND ALLOWING US TO ASSEMBLE HERE THIS MORNING TO CELEBRATE THE GRAND OPENING OF THIS SHANKLIN EMS STATION.
WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS NOW ON THE PLAN, THIS STATION AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE HOUSED IN HERE, THAT YOU WILL FATHER GOD WILL PROVIDE SAFETY
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AND, UH, FELLOWSHIP AND COMMUNION AMONGST THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY FOLLOW GOD WILL BE STRENGTHENED AND ENCOURAGED TO GO FORTH AND DO THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO DO IN JESUS NAME.REVEREND CUTTINGTON HI, I'M VIRGINIA MARSHALL.
I'M A PARAMEDIC WITH BUFORD COUNTY EMS, AND WE ARE AT THE NEWS SHANKLIN STATION, SHANKLIN EMS STATION.
THAT'S A STANDALONE STATION BRAND NEW FOR EMS FOR BEAVER COUNTY.
COME ON IN, WE'LL SHOW YOU AROUND.
SO OUR FUTURE GOAL POST COVID IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND HAVE WHAT WE CALL BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS AND SIMPLE MEDICAL CHECKS.
AND THIS WAS WHAT THIS WILL ROOM WILL BE DEDICATED TO IN THE FUTURE.
THE REST OF THE STATION WILL BE CLOSED OFF FROM THE PUBLIC BY THE STORE TO ALLOW US PRIVACY AND ALLOW US TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO, AS FAR AS FINISHING REPORTS AND GETTING READY FOR TRAINING AND THAT SORT OF THING FOR OUR NEXT CALL.
SO COME TAKE A LOOK AT OUR LIVING SPACES.
SO THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS STATION IS EVERYTHING IS INDIVIDUALIZED AND THEY INDIVIDUAL BUNK ROOMS. THE OLD STATIONS USED TO BE A COMBINED BUNK ROOM WHERE EVERYBODY SLEPT TOGETHER.
SO THE INDIVIDUAL BUNK ROOMS WILL GIVE US TIME TO DECOMPRESS FROM CALLS.
IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A VERY BAD CALL.
AND ALSO IT GETS US SOME PRIVACY WITH COVID RESTRICTIONS AS WELL.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR SPACING HERE TO SEPARATE FROM OUR FELLOW EMPLOYEES AT NIGHTTIME TO SLEEP GOING GREEN.
WE HAVE A BOTTLE THAT REFILLS AT THE WATER STATION HERE.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS ABOUT RECYCLING AND BUFORD COUNTY.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR COMMON AREA HERE WHERE WE SIT DOWN, WE HAVE OUR TV, UM, FOR STAYING UP-TO-DATE ON THE NEWS AND TRAINING VIDEOS THAT WE CAN DO.
AND THEN WE HAVE A COMMON KITCHEN AREA IN HERE.
UH, PART OF PAR STATION EMS LIFE IS THAT WE SIT DOWN AND WE HAVE MEALS TOGETHER.
AND SO THIS SPACE ALLOWS US TO DO THIS.
I'M SARAH ROCK CLERK TO COUNSEL FOR BEAVER COUNTY COUNCIL.
DID YOU KNOW, BUFORD COUNTY HAS 29 ACTIVE HOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SERVE A VITAL ROLE IN BUFORD COUNTY AND ALLOW CITIZENS LIKE YOU TO GET INVOLVED WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ADVISE YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ON A WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES.
MEMBERS SERVE IN A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES FROM ADVISING COUNCIL REGARDING THE SELLING AND PURCHASING OF LAND, HEARING APPEALS, ALLOCATING TAX MONIES, ADVOCATING FOR SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS, WORKING ON STORM WATER ISSUES, ZONING ISSUES, DESIGN REVIEW, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, YOU NAME IT.
VISIT WWW DOT BUFORD COUNTY, SC.GOV/COUNCIL/BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TODAY TO SEE A LIST OF OUR ACTIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND FILL OUT AN APPLICATION SIGN UP TODAY.
SO YOU CAN HAVE A HAND IN MAKING OUR COMMUNITY EVEN GREATER THAN IT ALREADY.