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UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START THE OPERATIONS TODAY.
UM, THIS MEETING WILL BE LIVE STREAM BY THE COUNTY CHANNEL AND IT'S BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FASHION, UM, AND A SANFORD PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
SEE, I THINK THAT WE APPROVED THE AGENDA, UH, REMOVING THE COMMITTEE MEETING COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES ITEM.
DO WE NEED TO MOVE ALL THE
I CAN'T SEE AS MR. SMITH ON THE LINE.
SO, UM, SINCE MR. SMITH IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT? OKAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY VERY, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO LET'S JUMP RIGHT DOWN TO THE, ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH TALKS ABOUT, WHICH SAYS IT'S A REVIEW AND REVISE ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACT USING A, A B 1 3, 3 DASH 19 STANDARD FORM OF AGREEMENT, OWNER AND ARCHITECT WITH THE CARTILAGE ON THE LINE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE? OH, YES, SIR.
UH, WE HAVE MR. VICK AGAIN, AND MR. ALLEN SMITH PRESENT WITH US TODAY WHO WILL BE REVIEWING, WHO HAVE REVIEWED THE CONTRACT FORMAL.
WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IT WITH US AND WE'RE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR PRESENCE HERE TODAY.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU WANTS TO READ IT, UH, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE KIND OF A SUMMARY AND EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S ON THE CHANGE HERE AND HE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT AND, UM, CAN ADD ANYTHING WHEN HE WANTS TO, UM, THE, THE, THIS IS THE ARCHITECT'S AGREEMENT THAT GOES WITH THE, UM, UH, UH, FORM THAT THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK ALSO CALL THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AS THE CONSTRUCTOR OR SIMPLY THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR SIGNS.
THAT'S ALSO A 2019 FORM IN THE BIG PICTURE AND LATE 2019, JUST AS Y'ALL WERE GETTING SET TO, UH, UH, HIRE DIFFERENT BUILDERS AND ARCHITECTS FOR YOUR PROGRAM.
UH, THE AIA UPDATED ITS STANDARD FORMS, AND YOU ALL HAVE RESOLVED TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK FORM OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THESE, THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS WERE OVER 10 YEARS OLD.
THEY WERE ISSUED AT THAT TIME.
THERE WERE SOME SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS ADDITIONS.
YOU HAD BEEN USING A, A STANDARD FORM, UH, FROM MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT YOU HAD OVER TIME, UH, CHANGED, UH, IN YOUR INTEREST IN EDITED IN VARIOUS WAYS.
AND SO WE, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS A GOOD WHILE AGO THAT I CAME DOWN AND REVIEWED BOTH THE, UH, CONTRACTORS FORM, WHICH IS AN A 1 33 AND THE GENERAL CONDITIONS, WHICH IS CALLED THE A 2 0 1 WITH THE BOARD.
AND, UM, AND NOW IT'S TIME TO DO THE ARCHITECT AGREEMENT.
UM, SO THAT IT IS SO THAT YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT, UM, UH, SET ACROSS
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ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS THAT YOU HIRE.UH, THE, THE FILMS THAT YOU'VE BEEN USING HAVE BEEN EDITED AND MADE IN VARIOUS WAYS.
I'M AWARE OF ONLY ONE, UH, ARCHITECT AGREEMENT.
I THINK IT'S WITH ELLIS THREE P MOVE YOU'VE HIRED BEFORE THAT YOU USE THE PREVIOUS FORM WITH A, YOU MADE SOME MORE EDITS, UM, BUT LSVP HAS BEEN WORKING UNDER THE SAME AGREEMENT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND MY RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN, AS YOU BEGAN TO HIRE NEW ARCHITECTS, YOU MIGRATE THEM TO THIS NEW FORM.
UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT BRIEF INTRODUCTION, I'LL GO THROUGH THE FORM.
THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, THE FIRST PAGE, JUST NAMES, THE PARTIES WITH CONTACT INFORMATION.
THE SECOND PAGE IS A, IS A, UM, TABLE OF CONTENTS.
AND, AND THEN ARTICLE ONE IS ENTITLED INITIAL INFORMATION.
ALL OF THIS STUFF IS FILLED OUT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HIRE SOMEONE, UH, WITH, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, WHAT YOU HAVE ENTERED IN HERE, ESPECIALLY IN SECTION 1.1 0.4 ARE THE STANDARD OR THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT AN ARCHITECT TO DO, AND THE TIME PERIOD, UH, THAT YOU THINK IT OUGHT TO TAKE.
YOU CAN ADJUST THIS, BUT THESE ARE REASONABLE NUMBERS AND EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY EXACTLY WHAT IS EXPECTED.
THE REST OF SECTION ONE, LET'S GO OVER NOW, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, YOU'LL SEE, IN SECTION 1.1 0.5, YOU HAVE PUT AN X THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THAT THE YOU YOU'RE SIGNING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
I MEAN, AS CONSTRUCT, THIS IS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, UH, AND, AND SO THE TWO FORMS WORK TOGETHER, LET'S GO OVER TO, UM, YOU ALSO HAVE IN SECTION 1.1 POINT 10, YOU LIST THERE THAT YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A HEARING AT THIS POINT, IT WAS INTENDS TO ENTER THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY ENTERED INTO.
SO I THINK WE CAN MAYBE CHANGE THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO RE, TO, TO ACTUALLY REFER TO THE HEARING AGREEMENT IN SECTION 1.1 POINT 12, THE CONSULTANTS WE'VE ADDED A NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE TYPICAL, UH, THE CIVIL ENGINEER, THE ROOF CONSULTANT, THE KITCHEN, AND THE ACOUSTICAL.
ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF ADDING ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE IS THAT THIS IS THEIR FEES ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE ARCHITECT'S BASIC SERVICES.
NOW SOMETIMES IN A PARTICULAR FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
AND I'M ESPECIALLY THINKING OF THE ACOUSTICAL THEATER CONSULTANT.
SOMETIMES THAT'S EXPENSIVE AND THE ARCHITECT DOES NOT WANT THAT PAID WITHIN THE BASE WITHIN HIS FEE BASIC SERVICE FEE.
AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THAT SOMETIMES TO BE AN EXTRA SEPARATE, DIRECT FEE THAT YOU PAY SEPARATELY, EITHER SEPARATELY FROM THE ARCHITECT OR YOU PAY IT, YOU REALLY WANT THEM REPORTING TO THE ARCHITECT SO THAT ALL OF THEIR DESIGNS ARE WRAPPED UP IN THE ARCHITECT, BUT, UM, THE PAYMENT IS DONE.
ADDITIONALLY, I'M GOING TO GO INTO ARTICLE TWO.
THAT'S NOT IN YOUR CURRENT CONTRACTS.
MOST OF THIS IS ABOUT INSURANCE AND YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT ALL OF THE ARCHITECTS OR, UM, YOU INSIST ON AND THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
THE ARTICLE THREE IS, IS THE DESCRIPTION OF BASIC SERVICES.
AND THIS IS, UH, REALLY THE HEART OF WHAT THE NEW FORM DOES BECAUSE IT ACCURATELY DESCRIBES, UM, THE CM AT RISK PROCESS, WHICH INVOLVES HIRING THE CONTRACTOR AND THE ARCHITECT REALLY AT THE BEGINNING, THEY WORK TOGETHER THROUGH THE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, DESIGN SCHEDULES AND SO ON.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS WORKING AT THE BUDGET THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS REVIEWING, WHAT THE ARCHITECT HAS DONE, UH, GIVEN
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ANY ENGINEERS, THERE'S PRICING INFORMATION, YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT A BUDGET.IF IT'S TOO HIGH, THEN THINGS ARE REDONE TO TRY TO MAKE THEM CHEAPER.
IF, IF THERE ISSUES THAT'S BROUGHT TO THE OWNER'S ATTENTION VERY EARLY.
AND SO THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT, UM, THAT YOU'RE REALLY, UM, THAT Y'ALL HAVE FOUND IS VERY GOOD FOR YOU.
AND IT'S VERY GOOD FOR EVERY DISTRICT THAT USING IT.
UM, THE SECTIONS ARE REALLY DIVIDED.
SECTION 3.1 IS SOME GENERAL THINGS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE.
UH, 3.1 IS THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IS BASIC.
YOU SEE, WE HAVE ADDED THOSE CONSULTANTS THAT WERE LISTED EARLIER.
THERE'S ALSO A CHART IN SECTION 4.1, THAT'S ARTICLE FOUR IS ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
AND WE'LL GET DOWN TO THAT IN A MINUTE.
DON'T FORWARD THIS ON LET'S STAY ON 3.1, BUT WE PUT A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS IN 4.1 BACK INTO BASIC SERVICES, SO THAT YOU'RE GETTING THOSE WITHOUT GETTING BILLED.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, OTHERWISE THAT THEN IT'S WHEN YOU GET TO 3.1 POINT 11, THESE ARE EXTRA DELIVERABLES, AND THIS IS, UM, A VERY GOOD LIST.
IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE AT LEAST TO BUFORD INITIALLY.
UM, BUT IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF STUFF THAT THE ARCHITECT HAS TO GIVE TO YOU.
AND IT REALLY INFORMS THE OWNER FOR INFORMS YOU OF WHAT AND, AND HARRY OF THINGS SO THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE COPIES YOU NEED, AND IT INFORMS YOU OF ALL THE INFORMATION REALLY NEED TO HAVE AND SPECIFIES THE NUMBERS.
UH, 3.1 POINT 12 IS A, UH, IS A VERY GOOD PROVISION THAT UNIQUE TO YOU WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO LINK IN THE VARIOUS, UH, PROGRAMS, UH, SO THAT IT'S ALL LINKED THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM AS THE OWNER, UH, SO THAT EVERYONE HAS THE REAL TIME, UM, UH, COMMUNICATION, UM, IN 3.3, WHICH BEGINS WELL, 3.2, IT WAS A REVIEW OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
AND THAT'S GETS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG MOMENT WHERE YOU FINALLY DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT THE DESIGN IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PRICE IS OR WHAT THE PRICE WILL NOT EXCEED.
AND THESE, THIS SPECIFIES WHAT THE ARCHITECTS DO, THESE ARE, UM, THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN IS WHERE IT STARTS.
THE ONLY REAL INSERTION THAT WE'VE MADE HERE IS TO BE SURE THAT YOU MOVE FROM PHASE TO PHASE AFTER APPROVAL.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T START ON THE NEXT PHASE BEFORE YOU'VE APPROVED THIS ONE.
SO YOU, YOU APPROVE, UH, SCHEMATIC BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, YOU APPROVED DESIGN DEVELOPMENT BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO CONSTRUCTION ARGUMENTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT ARCHITECTS SOMETIMES GET AHEAD OF THE GAME.
THEY'RE WORKING ON THE NEXT PHASE BEFORE THE OWNER HAS, UH, UH, APPROVED THE, THE, THE CURRENT PHASE.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE OWNER MAKES SOME CHANGES, WHICH ARE FINE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.
WELL, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE ARCHITECT WANTS TO CHARGE YOU FOR CHANGING THE WORK IN THE NEXT PHASE THAT HE OR SHE'S ALREADY GOTTEN AHEAD OF YOU.
WHEN IN FACT THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE DONE IT UNTIL YOU APPROVED IT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DESIGNED TO STOP.
UH, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO NOTE IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE AND SECTION 3.5 0.3 0.2, THIS IS DEALING WITH THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT DEAL WITH THE SITE, AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT.
UH THAT'S YEAH, FOR, UH, CONSTRUCTION ON A SITE THAT YOU'RE USING AN OLDER SCHOOL GETTING RENOVATIONS OR ADDITIONAL ADDITIONS.
SO THE SITE USAGE, EMPLOYMENT, SEX ABUSE, REGISTERED, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, ALL COME BACK TO YOU.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, UH, TO DEVELOP THOSE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED.
NOW, I DON'T THINK Y'ALL ARE HAVING ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS.
YOU'RE DOING IT NOW, BUT THIS IS WHERE THAT IS LOCATED.
CONTRACTUALLY, I'M LOOKING OVER, I DON'T IN 3.6 0.2
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0.2.UM, THIS IS A MINOR ADJUSTMENT, BUT THIS DEALS WITH, UH, THE, UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, IN THE, EITHER THE ARCHITECTS INSPECTIONS OR THE OLDER CONSULTANTS, INSPECTIONS, ENGINEERS, ELECTRICAL PLUMBING, AND SO ON.
WHEN THEY FIND WORK THAT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE DESIGN, WITH THE DOCUMENTS, UM, THE ARCHITECT DOES IN THE ORIGINAL FORM, IT SAID THAT THE ARCHITECT HAD THE AUTHORITY TO REJECT THE WORK, NOT THE REQUIREMENT TO REJECT THE WORK.
THIS FLIPS IT AND SAYS THAT THE OWNER IS THE ONE WHO CAN ADAPT.
THE ARCHITECT HAS TO ADVISE THE OWNER OF THE DEFECT.
AND IN LOSS, THE OWNER, OWNER, OVERRULES, THE ARCHITECT, THE ARCHITECTS GOT TO REJECT THE WORK SO THAT IF SOME ASPECT OF IT IS NOT RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TEAR IT OUT AND BUILD IT AGAIN, UM, CORRECTLY.
BUT IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE ARCHITECT TO JUST SORT OF SEE IT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, VERBALLY CRITICIZE THE, UH, CONTRACTOR, BUT NOT REJECT IT.
NOW THAT'S THE OWNERS, UH, RESPONSIBILITY AND RIGHT.
UM, THE NEXT POINT IN 3.6 0.2 0.3 IS THE TWO DAYS.
THIS IS DURING CONSTRUCTION QUESTIONS MIGHT COME UP ABOUT THE DESIGN.
AND SO YOU PUT THE ARCHITECT ON A VER, UH, THIS IS STANDARD, IT'S REASONABLE, BUT THEY GOT TO RESPOND QUICKLY BECAUSE NOW THIS IS DURING CONSTRUCTION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? JUST TOO MUCH DETAIL.
UH, LET'S LOOK OVER IN, UH, 3.6 0.6 0.2.
UH, IT SAYS THAT THIS IS AN INSERTED SECTION THAT WHEN AN ENGINEER DESIGNED SOMETHING, THAT ENGINEERS IS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO INSPECT IT.
YOU DON'T WANT THE PLUMBING GUY INSPECTING THE ELECTRICAL WORK.
YOU DON'T WANT THE ELECTRICAL GUY INSPECTING THE PLUMBING OR STRUCTURAL OR SOMETHING.
SO THIS, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PROVISION WE'D PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IN A ALLEN SLIT IN LITIGATION, WE FOUND OUT THAT SOMETIMES OF THE ELECTRICAL GUY DID INSPECT THE PLUMBING.
AND NEEDLESS TO SAY THE PLUMBING DIDN'T WORK.
UM, THE, THE LAST, UM, 3.6 0.6 0.5 IS AN ADDITION, AND THIS IS THE ONE-YEAR WARRANTY INSPECTION, WHERE EVERYBODY COMES TOGETHER TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING IS OPERATING, TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS. AND THEN IF SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY, UH, IT CAN, IT CAN BE FIXED STILL UNDER THE WARRANTY.
UM, ARTICLE FOUR IS, IS REALLY IT'S SUPPLEMENTAL AND, UH, ADDITIONAL SERVICES, UH, THIS USED TO BE KIND OF ALL MUSHED TOGETHER.
BUT THE BIG THING IS THAT CHART THAT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE, UH, 4.1 0.1 0.1.
NOW THESE CAN BE FILLED IN AND AS YOU CAN SEE MANY OF THEM, WE WE'VE PUT IT INTO BASIC PROGRAMMING, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE PRELIMINARY DESIGNS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE TO CAN SEE ALTERNATIVES.
SO WHEN IT SAYS BASIC, THAT MEANS IT'S IN THAT BASE FEE PERCENTAGE FEE.
IF IT SAYS NP, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT BEING PROVIDED AS PART OF THAT, BUT IT MIGHT BE PROVIDED IF YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE MORE, THE ONES THAT ARE IN, OR EITHER WE THINK ARE UNNECESSARY OR WE'RE PAYING FOR THEM SEPARATELY, LIKE THE FACILITY SURVEYS, MAYBE, UM, OR, UH, THIS IS JUST VERY EXPENSIVE AND THAT MEASURE DRAWINGS CAN BE THAT ON RENOVATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE.
THIS IS A STANDARD KIND OF LIST.
SOMETIMES ARCHITECTS WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE SOMETHING OR ONE OF CHANGES LANGUAGE, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE DISTRICT STARTS.
UH, IT INTEGRATES YOU ALSO WITH YOUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS
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AND SO ON.UM, LET'S SEE, UM, THE SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES TEND TO BE THINGS THAT ARE ADDED AND THEY'RE SEPARATE FORMS FOR THAT.
UH, I'VE RARELY RUN INTO THAT.
YOU DON'T USE IT VERY OFTEN, BUT ADDITIONAL SERVICES CAN BE A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT YOU RUN INTO 4.2 0.1 IS, IS A LIST OF THOSE.
UM, GOING DOWN TO 4.2 0.1, YOU'VE ALSO DELETED SOME OF THOSE ARE THESE.
THIS IS REALLY DEFINING A LINE BETWEEN WHAT THE ARCHITECT CAN EXPECT WITHIN THAT BASIC, AND THEN ADDITIONAL THINGS FOR WHICH THE ARCHITECT GETS TO, UH, CHARGE YOU SOME MORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH STANDARD.
AND, UH, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE SAME TERMS FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, THE 4.2 0.2 IS REALLY THE EDITS.
THEY'RE ALL DESIGNED TO NOT ALLOW AN ARCHITECT TO DRIFT IN TO ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
WHEN THE ARCHITECT SEES ADDITIONAL SERVICES, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING IT UP WITH YOU AS THE OWNER, AND YOU TALK ABOUT IT.
THEY CAN'T REALLY DRIFT INTO IT.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME EMERGENCY SITUATIONS WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AS A RESULT OF LIKE A, A HURRICANE OR A TORNADO OR SOME DISASTER ON THE SITE THAT, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES IMMEDIATE WORK BY THE ARCHITECT.
BUT WITH REASONABLE PROMPTNESS, THEY'VE GOT TO BRING IT UP TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN AGREE TO THE FEE.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PRESENT YOU WITH A BILL BASED ON HOURLY RATES.
YOU ALSO DOWN IN 4.2 0.3, HAVE THE NUMBERS OF REVIEWS AND SITE VISITS.
AND SO ON THAT THE ARCHITECT MUST DO.
UM, I WANT TO ESPECIALLY POINT OUT 0.2, WHICH IS THE ONE SITE VISIT PER WEEK DURING CONSTRUCTION.
I KNOW IT APPEARS ON THIS AS PER WEEK AS IF IT'S WRITTEN IN, BUT THAT PER WEEK IS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, TERM, OKAY.
Y'ALL INTERJECT WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, ARTICLE FIVE IS WHAT THE OWNER SUPPOSED TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
IT'S INCLUDED IN THE FEE ARRANGEMENTS AND SO ON.
THERE'S OTHER STUFF YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE TIMELY DECISIONS.
STABLISH THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, MAKE DECISIONS WHEN THEY'RE PRESENTED TO YOU.
UM, THIS IS VERY STANDARD AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH TRUE.
IF WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, THE ONLY ADDED WE'VE REALLY MADE IS THE LAST ONE IN FIVE POINTS.
THERE IS A TERM FIVE POINT AFTER 5.15, UH, THAT SET A TIMELINE FOR YOU TO DO THINGS WE ELIMINATED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT YOU BOUND BY A TIME LIMIT COST OF THE WORK AS ARTICLE SIX, UM, READY TO MOVE IT ON.
I'M NOT CONTROLLING WHAT YOU SEE.
WE WANT TO GO ON TO ARTICLE SIX COST OF THE WORK.
IT'S, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY WHAT THE DESIGNER DESIGNS AND WHAT THE CONTRACTOR BUILDS, AND THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE FEES.
UH, MS. BELL, BRAD HAS A QUESTION.
HEY, SO ON 6.3 CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TO INCLUDE APPROPRIATE CONTENT.
WE'RE DESIGNED GETTING NEGOTIATE PRICE, ESCALATION OF MARKET CONDITIONS, RIGHT? WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THAT, BUT I KNOW YOU ANALYSIS IS A, NOT, IS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR BASIC SERVICES SINCE WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE LUCKY TO DOING A LOT OF THAT.
HOW DOES THAT GET PRICED OUT? IS THAT, ARE THOSE SEPARATE THINGS, VALUE ANALYSIS AND COST ESCALATION? WELL, IF THERE IS ALWAYS A CONTINGENCY AND IT'S USUALLY EXPRESSED AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET OR OF THE COST THAT'S INCLUDED THERE,
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AND THAT ABSORBS A LOT OF THESE, IT SHOULD ABSORB THE PRICE ESCALATIONS AND THE MARKET CONDITIONS YOU USUALLY DO.NOT IN MOST DISTRICTS DO NOT ESTABLISH THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE UNTIL YOU'VE HAD BIDDING BY SUBCONTRACTORS.
AND THAT'S SPECIFIED OVER IN THE CM AT RISK CONTRACT.
AND THEY TYPICALLY, I MEAN, THE HALF, THEY HAVE THREE BETTERS SUBCONTRACTOR BIDS.
NOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WAY MATERIALS ARE NOW SOMETIMES, UH, THEY'LL SAY HERE'S OUR BID, BUT THIS ITEM, NOBODY WILL GIVE US A PRICE FOR IT YET.
AND SO THAT COMES OUT OF THAT.
WELL, THAT'S SORT OF A PART OF WHERE THIS CONTINGENCY COMES IN.
NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO SPEND THAT CONTINGENCY.
AND WHEN YOU SPEND IT, THAT'S WHEN IT GOES INTO THE NUMBER THAT GOES INTO THE ARCHITECT'S FEE.
SO IT'D BE FIVE OR 6% OR WHATEVER.
IT MIGHT BE OF A NUMBER THAT INCLUDES ALL THE WORK THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT CONTINGENCY.
BUT LET'S SAY YOU DON'T USE THE CONTENTION C WELL, IN THAT CASE, IT'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU DON'T PAY A FEE ON IT.
UM, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE GO ABOVE CONTINGENCY, WHICH IS LIKELY TO OCCUR IN SOME, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE FLUCTUATIONS IN THE MARKET, HOW DO WE PAY FOR VALUE ANALYSIS? ARE WE PAYING, IS THAT INCLUDED OR NOT? I'M JUST KIDDING.
THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN BASIC SERVICES, THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR BASIC SERVICES AT THAT THE, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER THROUGH EVERY STAGE, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN SCHEMATICS ON, ON THROUGH IS PRESENTING A BUDGET AT THE TIME THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE RUNNING NUMBERS, THEY HAVE INCLUDED SOBS.
SO YOU'VE GOT PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS ALL IN THROUGH THERE.
UH, AND, UH, BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, IT OUGHT TO BE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
NOW THEY MAY HAVE EXCEPTIONS TO IT.
THAT'S WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT DEPENDS ON EACH TIME, BUT WHEN YOU BUDGET FOR THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER.
I MEAN, YOU, AND IT HAS A CONTINGENCY WITHIN IT THAT SHOULD ABSORB EVERYTHING THAT YOU, UM, THAT YOU INCUR ABOVE THE GMP.
SO WHEN YOU SAID VALUE ANALYSIS IS INCLUDED IN THE BASIC CAUSE IT'S NOT ON THAT SCHEDULE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SEND THE DIFFERENCE, LIKE WHEN IT'S INCLUDED, WHEN IT COMES TO, BUT I CAN TALK TO ROBERT.
I MEAN, ROBERT ENGAGES IN THAT, ON EVERY PROJECT.
I MEAN, VALUE ANALYSIS IS SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE DESIGN THAT'S THE ARCHITECT DOES THE COST.
THAT'S PREDICTED FOR THAT BY THE CONTRACTOR AND TRYING TO BRING YOUR BUDGET IN LINE WITH THOSE.
IT CAN BE DIFFERENT MATERIALS, DIFFERENT SONGS.
I MEAN, WHATEVER DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, I MEAN, A DIFFERENT HPAC SYSTEM, A DIFFERENT ROOF SYSTEM OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT IS INCLUDED BACK WAY OVER IN ARTICLE THREE.
UM, WELL, IT'S, IT'S AN EVERY STAGE IT'S IN 3.3 0.3 0.2, WHERE YOU HAVE A BUDGET AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR REQUIREMENTS.
UM, 3.3 0.5 IS WORKING THROUGH THOSE WITH THE BUDGET, UM, THEN THREE POINTS.
AND AT EACH STAGE YOU REPEAT THAT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE THREE POINT FOURS.
UM, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, IT'S THE SAME THING, UM, WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMPARING THE BUDGET TO THE CONTRACTOR'S PRICE TO THE ARCHITECT'S DESIGN.
YOU'RE NOT WAITING TO THE END TO WORK IN, I MEAN, VALUE ANALYSIS IS A WORD THAT, YOU KNOW, INCLUDES THAT PROCESS OF DESIGN ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, CONTRACTOR PRICING WITH THE USE OF SUBS WHO ARE GOING TO BE BIDDING AND THEN THE OWNER'S BUDGET.
AND THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S WHAT VALUE ANALYSIS IS.
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IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT OCCURS AT THE END OR AFTER, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE ALL DONE AND YOU'RE SITTING DOWN AT THE END, IT'S NOT LIKE LOW BID WHERE THE ARCHITECT'S DONE ALL THAT.THEY MIGHT'VE DONE SOME PRICING INFORMATION, BUT THEN YOU'RE SURPRISED WHEN ALL THE BIDS COME IN AND THEY'RE WAY OVER WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS.
THAT SHOULD THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF SAYING, WHAT ARE THE MAIN PURPOSES OF CM AT RISK IS TO AVOID THAT.
UM, LET'S SEE, COPYRIGHTS, I THINK ARTICLE WE'RE NOT ARTICLE SEVEN, THE COPYRIGHTS AND LICENSES IS PRETTY STANDARDIZED.
THE, UM, THIS COMES INTO PLAY, UH, OVER TIME.
UM, IN SECTION 7.3, WE'VE ADDED THAT THE LICENSE ALSO INCLUDES THE LICENSE FROM THE ENGINEERS.
THAT'S A STANDARD FORM IN THE, BETWEEN THE ARCHITECTS AND THE CONSULT AND THE ENGINEERS, BUT WE WANTED TO BE SURE IT WAS IN HERE.
UM, THE, UM, THE SECTION 7.3 0.1 EVERY NOW AND THEN THE OWNER WANTS TO TERMINATE THE ARCHITECT, BUT WANTS TO USE THE PLANS, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT WHEN YOU AGREE, WHEN YOU DO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THIS ALLOWS, BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, UH, YOU THEN ARE RELEASING THE ARCHITECT FROM ANY LIABILITY FOR THAT.
IT'S REALLY PICKED UP BY THE NEW ONE, BUT YOU'VE ELIMINATED INDEMNIFYING THE ARCHITECT.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN HE GETS SUED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY HIS, HIS LAWYER FEES, UM, IN THE CLAIMS AND DISPUTES AREA, IT'S THERE.
I WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE IS THE, UH, THE PROCESS HERE IS MEDIATION, WHICH IS VERY STANDARD ACROSS THE INDUSTRY THEN, UH, LITIGATION NON-JURY AND DO FOR COUNTY COURT.
AND THEN THERE'S NO ARBITRATION, ARBITRATION IS RUINOUSLY EXPENSIVE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS AT THE END AND 8.2 0.5, WE'VE ADDED A TERM TO, UH, THAT ALLOWS YOU THE OWNER TO JOIN THE ARCHITECT, THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONSULTANTS, THE ENGINEERING FIRMS, AND THE SUBCONTRACTORS ALL TOGETHER IN ONE BIG LAWSUIT.
THEY CAN'T BLAME SOMEBODY, NOT IN THE LAWSUIT.
THIS MAKES IT PRETTY MUCH A CIRCLE, UM, IN COMPLICATED, BUT IT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN, THAN HAVING TO DO IT SEPARATELY.
AND THIS IS ALL THE SAME PROVISION.
IT'S ALSO IN YOUR RFPS AND IT'S ALSO IN THE, UM, THE CONTRACTOR'S AGREEMENT AND IT, AND IT'S ALSO IN THE GENERAL CONDITIONS THAT THE SUBCONTRACTORS ALL SEE, UM, THE REST OF IT IS THAT THE, UM, THERE'S JUST DELETIONS THAT ACCOMPLISH WHAT I TALKED ABOUT, TERMINATION OR SUSPENSION, UH, IS THE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THINGS GO BAD? YEAH.
SPEED OVER SOMETHING WITH THE ARCHITECT, THE FIRST INSERTION AND 9.1 IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY GOOD IN GOOD FAITH, WHATEVER YOU OWE.
THAT'S NOT IN DISPUTE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP BACK.
THE SECOND THING IS, UM, IN 9.6, THERE'S A, A LARGE WAIVER PROVISION THAT TRIES TO LIMIT THE CLAIMS OF THE ARCHITECT.
THEY LIMIT YOUR CLAIMS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE REAL CLAIMS, YOU KNOW, FOR INTERFERENCE WITH THE PROJECT.
UM, BUT IT KEEPS THE ARCHITECT FROM BUILDING UP A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF.
9.7 IS A NEW THING IN THESE, IN THIS REVISED, UH, 2019 AGREEMENT WHERE YOU CAN SPECIFY A TERMINATION FEE AND THEN THE LICENSING FEE TO GET THE, THE PLANS.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING NO TERMINATION FEE, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY YOUR THING TO TERMINATE IT.
WE PAY YOUR COST UP TO THE POINT WE TERMINATE, AND THEN THAT'S OVER.
AND THE LICENSING FEE IS A PRETTY NOMINAL AMOUNT OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT, THAT ENDS ANY DISPUTE ABOUT OUR ENTITLEMENT TO THE ARCHITECT'S WORK MISCELLANEOUS IN SECTION 10 THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A
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LOT THERE.UM, UH, THE COMPENSATION IN ARTICLE 11 IS, UH, YOU, YOU NEGOTIATE THAT AND FILL IT IN EVERY TIME I SEE THAT 6% IS IN HERE.
UM, SO THAT'S OF THE COST BUDGET FOR THE COST OF THE WORK.
UM, THE, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, THEN 11.5 IS THE PHASING.
AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT IS USUALLY PAID AS THE ARCHITECT'S WORK IS COMPLETED.
THAT'S OF SIX OF THAT 6% APPLY TO THE JOB.
THEY GET THESE PERCENTAGES AS THEY GO ALONG, THEY ADD UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, IT'S THIS IS A VERY TYPICAL THING.
IT REFLECTS THE WORK YOU SAY DOES SCHEMATIC IS 15 DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS 20 CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WHICH ARE THE BIG, UH, THE BIG DRAWINGS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND SO ON.
I SAY, THERE'S A LITTLE TYPO HERE.
WE'LL FIX CONSTRUCTION, PHASE 20.
AND THEN THE NUMBER IS 25, BUT IT'S GOING TO ADD TO A HUNDRED.
SO THAT 25 NEEDS TO BE 20, UM, WRITES DOWN AT 11.7 ONLY APPLY TO ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
AND MOST OF THEM HAVE MOST OF YOUR ARCHITECTS HAVE A SHEET OF PAPER THAT HAS ALL HIS RIGHTS ON IT.
I DON'T THINK THOSE NUMBERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE DESIGN OF THIS IS BEFORE THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL SERVICES, YOU AGREE ON WHAT THEY ARE.
AND YOU'RE ALSO AGREE ON WHAT THE ARCHITECT'S GOING TO CHARGE YOU.
SO I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY ON THEIR HOURLY FEE.
WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DO THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, YOU'RE GOING TO DICTATE WHAT YOU AGREE, WHAT, WHAT YOU WILL EITHER PAY FOR, OR THEY WON'T DO IT.
UM, REIMBURSABLES THAT'S, THE STANDARD HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE ALL ALONG.
UM, YOU, UH, YOU'RE SORT OF AT THE END OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO YOU HAVE AGREED TO PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION AND OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL.
UH, YOU DELETE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU, AND, UM, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL SURVEYING GEO-TECH AND SO ON.
NORMALLY YOU PAY FOR THAT ANYWAY, BUT THEY CAN ADD IT ON A PORT YOU'VE DONE IN 11.8 0.2 IS SAY, THEY DON'T GET TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT.
THEY DON'T, SOME PLACES WILL TRY TO STICK A FIVE OR A 10% MARKUP HERE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING NO BARK, UM, PROGRESS PAYMENTS, OR THE PAYMENTS ON A PAY APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, AS THE THINGS ARE, UM, COMPLETED, UH, Y'ALL ARE ESTABLISHING A 60 DAY PERIOD FOR THE DISTRICT TO PAY IT W WITH NO INTEREST.
UM, THE SPECIAL TERMS AT THE END, UH, YOU ALL IN FACT DISTRIBUTE THE, UM, THE VARIOUS PLANS AND SPECS.
UM, I THINK THE ONE WE'VE ADDED THAT MAY NOT BE IN YOUR CURRENT STUFF IS 12.4, WHERE THERE'S A PENALTY.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS OF DISTRICTS HAVE IS THAT THE END OF THE JOB, IT IS HARD TO GET THE ARCHITECTS AND THE CONTRACTORS TO GET ALL THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER, WHETHER THEY'RE WARRANTIES, WHETHER THEY'RE, UH, VERIFICATIONS THAT SUBCONTRACTORS HAD BEEN PAID, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
THERE'S A GREAT VOLUME OF PAPERWORK AT THE END.
AND SOMETIMES THINGS DRIFT AND THEY JUST WON'T DO IT.
IT'S IT'S LIKE, IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO THEM TO FINISH.
UH, WELL, THIS PUTS A PENALTY ON IT.
AND 5% OF ANYTHING OVER $5 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND UNDER $5 MILLION, $25,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY.
SO THIS IS A REAL, UM, THIS IS THE STICK TO GET THEM TO FINISH.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD THING AND IT SEEMS TO WORK.
ANY QUESTIONS, LET'S SAY, MR. HALLIBURTON, WE HAVE MS.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU HAD ANY OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A QUESTION.
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DON'T THINK SO.I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP OR SO, UM, MR. ALLEN, DID I SEE THE TERM SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IN HERE A LOT? CAN YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT CONSIDER TO BE WHEN SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE? WELL, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS A TERM OF ART.
I MEAN, IT'S A CONTRACTUAL TERM AND IT FOLLOWS INSPECTIONS BY THE OFFICE OF SCHOOL FACILITIES, AND YOU'RE ENTITLED TO TAKE POSSESSION AND USE THE PROPERTY.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S A NEW SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE BUILDING TEACHERS, YOU CAN GET IN THERE, YOU CAN START MOVING IN EQUIPMENT OR FURNITURE.
TEACHERS CAN BE IN THERE GETTING READY, EVEN STUDENTS COULD BE IN THERE, BUT THEN THERE'S A PUNCH LIST OR A LIST OF SMALL UNDONE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND IT CAN BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS.
UM, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LITTLE AND, UM, AND THAT'S IN THAT THOSE HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE FINAL COMPLETION.
AND, UH, AND SO THERE ARE ISSUES THERE OF HOW MUCH THEY GET PAID THROUGH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
AND THAT'S REALLY A TERM MORE FOR THE CONTRACTOR THEN FOR THE ARCHITECT, BUT UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, UH, THERE'S A DATE ESTABLISHED AT THE BEGINNING.
IF YOU GO OVER THAT DATE WITHOUT ANY VALID EXCUSES, THERE IS A, UM, UH, LIQUIDATED DAMAGES NUMBER.
AND I THINK IT'S $750 A DAY THAT YOU GET TO COLLECT MIGHT BE 500.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A THOUSAND, UH, THAT THE, THAT THE CONTRACTOR WILL OWED TO THE DISTRICT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A 750 A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK NUMBER UNTIL THEY GET TO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WITHIN YOUR TIME.
IF THEY TAKE TOO LONG, THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE, SEPARATE DOLLAR NUMBER.
AND I THINK THAT'S TWO 50 FOR FINAL COMPLETION, AND THAT IS FINISHING UP ALL THE THINGS ON WHAT THEY CALL THE PUNCH LIST.
NOW, THE, THE REAL PROTECTION THAT YOU HAVE TO, FOR THINGS TO GET DONE ON TIME IS THE WAY THAT YOU ARE HIRING PEOPLE.
YOU'RE HIRING BOTH THE ARCHITECTS AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR BASED ON HOW WELL THEY HAVE DONE PAST WORK.
AND IF A CONTRACTOR AND THIS ESPECIALLY DEALS WITH THE CONTRACTORS ARE NOT FINISHING SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION ON TIME AND ARE NOT, UH, FINISHING UP ALL THE PUNCHLESS STUFF.
UH, THAT'S A V THAT'S A NEGATIVE, THAT'S A BIG NEGATIVE, AND YOU MARK THEM DOWN WHEN YOU'RE HIRING PEOPLE FOR NEW JOBS AND ALL THE FIRMS KNOW THAT THAT'S A FACTOR.
AND SO THE GREAT BENEFIT OF THE SEA OF AT RISK PROCESSES IS THAT YOU HIRE A NEW CONTRACTOR FOR A NEW JOB BASED UPON THE PERFORMANCE OF THAT CONTRACTOR ON PREVIOUS WORK FOR YOU.
NOW YOU'RE BIG ENOUGH, SO THAT IT'S FOR YOU.
UH, SOMETIMES YOU'LL GET SOMEBODY NEW BID THE WORK OR COMING IN TO INTERVIEW FOR YOUR WORK.
AND, UH, BUT THAT WILL BE BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE ELSEWHERE IN OTHER DISTRICTS AND WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT ABOUT.
AND, UM, SO IT'S, IT PUTS INTO THE PROCESS, A, UH, REPUTATIONAL FACTOR THAT JUST WORKS TO YOUR BENEFIT.
AND SO THAT'S THE WHOLE, THAT'S SORT OF A SETUP AROUND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
SO, SO IF I MAY JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS NEW FORM WILL NOT SUPERSEDE ANY, ANY PREVIOUS FORMS THAT WE HAVE USED UP TO THIS DATE.
NO, IT WILL BE USED WHEN YOU HIRE NEW ARCHITECTS FOR NEW PROJECTS, BECAUSE YOU MAY BE HIRING AN ARCHITECT THAT ALREADY WORKS FOR YOU, BUT FOR A NEW PROJECT.
AND AS THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, DO YOU NEED BOARD APPROVAL FOR DOSE DO NOT? SO THIS IS, YEAH.
AND THE TIME WE'LL NEED BOARD APPROVAL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN RFP OUT RIGHT NOW FOR ARKANSAS.
SO WHEN WE BRING THAT GROUP OF ARCHITECTS FOR YOUR APPROVAL, THAT'S, THIS WILL BE THE CONTRACT
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THAT THEY WILL.SO THAT'S TIMING WISE WHILE WE'RE PRESENTING THIS NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF INTERVIEWING FOR NEXT ROUND OF ARCHITECTS FOR THE NEXT TWO.
AND THAT WILL BE THE APPROVAL WILL COME TO THE APPROVAL OF THAT.
UM, WELL, THOSE ARE ALL AGAIN, UH, AND MR. SMITH, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE CERTAINLY VETTED THOSE AND, UH, TO THE FAVOR OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HOPE FOR.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NATURAL GAS FUELING STATION 17, ADDITIONAL MR. HALL.
UM, YES, I AM BRINGING THIS TO YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, AS YOU KNOW, THEY SUPPLY THE MAJORITY OF THAT, THE THIRDS AND THE BUSES THAT WE USE IN THE DISTRICT.
AND, AND, UM, THEY BROUGHT TO THIS US THE OPTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD LIKE 17 NEW PROPANE BUSES.
UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED 17 PROPANE BUSES IN 2020.
THOSE WERE PROVIDED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
WE BUILT A PROPANE STATION HERE AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED, IT'S, UH, RIGHT AT THE END OF THE FIELD DOWN HERE.
AND THAT ALLOWS US TO FEEL THOSE 17 BUSES THAT WE GOT FOR.
UM, I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY, THE PERFORMANCES BUSES, EVERYBODY'S VERY PLEASED WITH THE COMPANY THEY'RE NEW, THEY HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, THEY ARE MORE FUEL EFFICIENT.
UM, AND SO IT IS PART OF THE VOLKSWAGEN SETTLEMENT.
SO I AM COMING TO ASK IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO PURSUE THAT OPTION AGAIN, UM, IN ORDER TO DO THAT THOUGH, OR STILL NEED TO HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE, YOU PAYS FOR THAT.
THERE IS A COUPLE OPTIONS DOWN BELOW, AS FAR AS MOTIONS THAT WE COULD GO FOR.
AND I CAN ALSO DISCUSS THIRD THAT, UM, AFTER TALKING WITH TANYA AND REGGIE MURPHY, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST, I FEEL LIKE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
SO, AND WHAT I DID SHOW UP HERE IS THE COSTS THAT, UH, A PROCESS TO BUILD THIS FUELING STATION.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE TO DO ENGINEERING DRAWINGS, HAVE TO DO STORMWATER CALCULATIONS, ALL THOSE ITEMS. WE HAVE TO BRING ELECTRICAL OUT TO IT.
UH, SO THERE IS SOME DESIGN COSTS AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE SPENT $18,000 DESIGNING THIS FUEL STATION.
AND THE TOTAL COST OF THE ONE THAT WE HAD HERE WAS 160, 2000.
UH, WE REALLY HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO EXACTLY WHERE WE WOULD PLACE THIS FUEL STATION.
THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT WE PLACE IN OUR NET, UM, THAT ACTUALLY IS WORK OUT VERY WELL TO THEIR ADVANTAGE, RIGHT? IF YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO PARK OUTS, BUT THEY GIVE US A FOUR.
UM, IN SOUTHERN BUFORD COUNTY, WE ACTUALLY PARK AT 18.
MCCRACKEN IS OUR OFFICIAL PARK OUT AND ON GILPEN.
IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A FEW WEEKS STATION THERE, THEY ONLY HAVE 14 BUSES, TOTALS, ALL 14 BUSES COULD BE VAIN ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND, UM, THE OTHER THREE WOULD COME BACK HERE TO THIS, TO THIS STATION.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO WHERE WOULD THE FUELING STATION BE BUILT AT, ON HILTON HEAD AND WHERE ARE THE BUSES CURRENTLY STAGE ON HILTON HEAD OF 14 THAT WE HAVE? SO THE BUSES ARE CURRENTLY STAGED, BUT BEHIND THE BACK OF IB AND SDA, THERE'S A BUS PARKING LOT LOCATED THERE BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND I BELIEVE IT'S PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.
UM, SO THERE'S A LARGE LOT IN THAT AREA AND WE WOULD TRY TO FIND A LOCATION IN THAT GENERAL AREA, UH, FOR A FUELING STATION.
WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION SHOP OVER BEHIND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SOME OF OUR ATHLETIC BUSES ARE PARKED IN THAT AREA.
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THE THIRD FUNDING ITEM, THIRD ITEM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS KIND OF, YOU HAD A COUPLE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE'RE WANTING TO ADD, OR BE FUNDED BY 80% AND JUST HOW TO DO THAT.SO THERE IS A LITTLE CONFUSION RIGHT NOW AND THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO PROCEED SIDE LIGHTS, GUIDANCE.
I KNOW YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THE ROLL UP OF, UH, FUNDS THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY USED AND HOW THAT WOULD AND FURTHER.
SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THIS EQUATION.
SO WE DID A DIFFERENT, THE THIRD MOTION WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY SPECIFY THE FUNDS TO BE USED THAT ARE EXISTING, AND THAT WOULD BE USING THE FYI 2018% FUNDS, UM, WITH AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION FUELING STATION LOCATED IN SOUTHERN BUFORD COUNTY FOR 2018, RIGHT NOW HAS 700,000.
THAT'S PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
NOW, THE ONLY THING ABOUT THIS IS THESE ARE COMING IN OCTOBER.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I NEED TO KNOW EACH, I NEED TO TELL THE DEPARTMENT OF ED THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN THIS.
WE HAVE A WAY OF FUNDING FOR THAT TO OCCUR, OR I NEED TO TELL THEM GO BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, THEY WILL OFFER THEM TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO THE
I GET SO CONFUSED ON THE DATES.
SO IT'S, YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WERE VERY CLOSE TO CLOSING OUT AND IT RIGHT NOW, AS MONEY SITTING IN, DIDN'T SEE, NOT BEING USED.
IT IS MONEY THAT FROM PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FINISHED AND PAYMENT IN UNDER BUDGET GOT ROLLED IN CONTINGENCY FUNDS, AND IT'S SITTING THERE, WE HAD A MOTION RECENTLY, BUT I THINK IT WAS 16, 17 FUNDS FOR CUSOS HPAC.
SO WE HAVE NOT TAPPED 18, RIGHT.
THERE'S STILL MONEY REMAINING WIPED OUT 16 CENTS.
THEY'VE CLOSED SO WELL IN MY WORLD.
FINANCE AS IT WERE, I CAN NO LONGER ACCESS IT OR USABLE.
UM, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT, UM, MS. BOATWRIGHT JUST TALKED ABOUT ROLLING THE FUNDS.
UM, DID WE COME TO CONCLUSION ABOUT THAT? I THOUGHT WE HAD POLICY THAT PROHIBITS US FROM DOING THAT, AND I MIGHT BE CONFUSED.
UM, BUT WHERE HAVE WE HAD, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? CORRECT.
CAUSE I I'M THINKING WE HAD A CONCERN WITH THAT.
AS I RECALL WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT, WE HAVE ASKED THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ON THEIR LAST SLIDE TO BE ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW IF THEY'RE MEETING TOMORROW, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 8% DEBT.
IT MIGHT BE ON YOUR AGENDA TOMORROW.
CAUSE MR. GOOSEBERRY JUST SAID THAT PERCENT DEBT IS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID TALK ABOUT IT.
IF I CAN HAVE A FOLLOW-UP HAVE WE ALREADY, UH, APPROVED THE 8% CAPITAL FUNDS, THE USAGE FROM 2023.
I KNOW WE WORK IN A CUP A COUPLE OF YEARS IN ADVANCE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT PERHAPS WE'D ALREADY APPROVED THAT I NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT THAT WE'D ALREADY KIND OF APPROVED THIS, THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE FUNDS, MS. REMIND YOUR EXECUTIVE, CORRECT.
YOU HAVE, UM, THE FYI 20, 23, YOU KNOW, HAS THE CONVERSATION OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, WE TALKED ABOUT BELOW THE LINE THAT ARE UNFUNDED, THEY COULD USE CONTINGENCY FUNDS IF THEY BECOME AVAILABLE TO FUND IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'D BE SUGGESTING HERE IS TO PUT IT AS AN UNFUNDED PROJECT BELOW THE LINE.
UM, WE HAVE CONTINGENCY FUNDS IN THAT THEY COULD BE MOVED DOWN THERE TO PAY FOR IT.
YOU HAD NOT APPROVED FYI 20, 24.
SO WHAT IF YOU TALKING ABOUT USING THAT ITEM FOR GROWING AN ITEM PRIOR TO THE REST OF THE PROJECTS BEING VIEWED FOR? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I CERTAINLY THINK, UH, ACCEPTING THESE BUSES
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IS WISE AND OUR DECISION, YOU KNOW, FROM MY STANDPOINT THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE APPROPRIATE, HONEST WAY TO PAY FOR THEM.AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, THOSE UNUSED FUNDS HAVE TO BE ROLLED INTO THE CURRENT FUNDING CYCLE AND THE BOND IS REDUCED BY THAT AMOUNT.
WE'VE NEVER CHANGED THAT THE ISSUE FOR 2023 WAS THAT BELOW THE LINE, WHICH IS WHEN WE APPROVED THAT WE BASICALLY WERE SAYING ON USE FUNDS TOWARD THOSE PROJECTS BELOW THE LINE, INSTEAD OF ROLLING IT FORWARD.
UM, MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO CHANGE THAT BELOW THE LINE IN 2023 APPROVAL TO CHANGE THAT LIST OF ITEMS. YES, NO, I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THE ONE THING AND BELIEVE YOU'D PROBABLY AGREE WITH THIS.
MR. KERINGER UM, TANYA DID ASK ME TO PUT A, NOT TO EXCEED ON IT EVEN THOUGH.
SO IF YOU DO DECIDE TO USE FYIS 20, 23 ROUTE, WE WOULD NEED TO ADD TO THE MOTION I PUT ON THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF 2000, MR. YEAH.
I WAS, I WAS, THEY WAS THAT, UM, MR. SCRIMMAGE HAD SENT IT ALREADY.
UM, BUT I KNOW ALSO THAT MR. SCRIMMAGE, I MADE A MOTION ONE TIME TO HOW TO BELIEVE AND HE CAN CORRECT ME ON HOW FUNDS SHOULD BE ROLLED OVER IF, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME, UH, POSSIBLY.
I WAS ASKING ME A MADAM CHAIR.
I WAS ASKING MR. SCOURGES, DID HE MAKE A MOTION? AND THEN WE AGREE WITH THAT ABOUT HOW TO ROLL FUNDS OVER THIS.
THE SCRIPTURE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL IS ACTUALLY OUR POLICY NOW, WHICH WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN.
OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY CLEARLY THAT HIS POLICY NOW SPONSOR HAVE TO BE ROLLED INTO A CURRENT YEARN WHEN THE BOND REQUEST US TO REDUCE BY THAT AMOUNT FOR 2023, IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DID THAT BELOW THE LINE SAYING THAT UNUSED FUNDS WOULD GO TO THAT NEXT PROJECT BELOW THE LINE.
UM, SO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE COEXISTING RIGHT NOW.
SO THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS IS I BELIEVE WHAT ROBERT'S SAYING RIGHT AFTER INSERTED THAT 20, 23 BELOW THE LINE, UH, AND THEN PUT IT IN, YOU KNOW, NOT TO EXCEED 200,000.
OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TO 2024 AND WE'VE DONE THAT.
I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE, THIS IS GOING TO KIND OF COME UP IN FINANCE, HOW WE FUND THIS, BUT THERE IS LIKE A TIMELINE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE OTHER THING IS TO THROW ANOTHER WRENCH IN HERE IS ESTHER FUNDING.
ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THIS STUFF OFF OF NEXT SUMMER'S PROJECT? LET US, BECAUSE WE CAN USE, UH, ARPA FUNDING LIKE HPAC.
I NEED THAT 3 MILLION AND CHANGE IN OUR CURRENT APPLICATION.
SO I THINK PERSONALLY, WHEN I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WITHOUT ASSIGNING IT TO A YEAR YET.
CAN WE DO THAT? BECAUSE WE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES AT PLAY.
I MEAN, YES, PRETTY QUICKLY WE NEED A FUNDING SOURCE.
SO IT'S NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE THAT WILL GET IT DONE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
RIGHT? WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.
SO ONCE YOU CAUSE FINANCE, IF THEY HAVE CASH IN HAND AVAILABLE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GOING AHEAD AND COMMITTING SOME OF THE MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IN 2024.
NOW THAT, THAT IS A BETTER CONVERSATION WITH TANYA HERE FOR THE FINANCE.
SO I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH PUSHING THAT OFF.
IT JUST, IT CAN'T SIT AROUND TOO LONG.
THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
YOU WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, SO MY, SORRY, MY IDEA WAS IF WE ASSIGN IT TO 20 23, 20, 24, 20 18 WITH THREE OPTIONS, IF WE DO ONE OF THOSE, IT MIGHT LIMIT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH.
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I MEAN, I DON'T B S OR FUNDS NOW HAVE A DEFINED PLAN.SO, AND I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING OF BUSES AS PART OF OUR
I WOULD THINK THAT OUR BARBARA FUNDS WOULD INCLUDE VENTILATION.
AND THEN THERE MIGHT BE HPAC PROJECTS AND MIXED SUMMERS, 2023 PROJECTS THAT THEN WOULD NOT REQUIRE 8% FUNDS, THEREFORE GIVING US SPACE.
IF I CAN GET A SPOILER ALERT, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE S OR FUNDS TO, WE HAVE MORE PROJECTS THAN WE HAVE MONEY FOR.
IF YOU DO NEXT YEAR IS 8% AND AS FUN.
SO IT FEELS LIKE WE'VE GOT PLENTY OUT THERE TO DO THIS.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HOW WE ACCOUNT FOR IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, WE, WE DID AN EXERCISE ON WHAT WE HAD AS FAR AS, UM, UH, HAC PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS WHEN WE DO THE TWO YEAR PLAN.
AND, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DID RANK THEM BY PRIORITY ONE, TWO AND THREE.
ALL I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE PRIORITY ONE.
I KNOW IT WAS ONE, 6 MILLION WAS ABOUT $10 MILLION.
THE SAME PROJECTS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW PRIORITY ONE HPAC PROJECTS.
THAT MEANS WE NEED TO BE DOING IN 300, THREE AND A HALF MILLION.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S, RON'S, ISN'T GOING TO MAKE IT TO ME MID 17, MAYBE FRIDAY 1, 2, 3.
SO WE HAVE LOTS OF ALL I'M SAYING, I GUESS MR. SMITH, ACTUALLY WE PUT MY HAND DOWN.
I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY EXPRESS OUR INTERESTS, RIGHT? MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE THE STATE UP ON THIS.
UM, I, I LIKE MOTION NUMBER ONE FOR THE 20, 23, 8% CAPITAL FUNDS, BECAUSE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THIS PROCESS OF HAVING BILLOWS LINE.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME TO, TO PLAY RIGHT IN WITH THAT, WITH THE NOT TO EXCEED ABOUT.
UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT, IS THERE ANY SPECIAL PERMITTING THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BUILD THIS AND THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
SO DOES THAT ALL PLAY AGAIN WITH, YOU KNOW, BLACK CHOPPER ROAD, 2021? IT'S LIKE 90 DAYS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO SAY WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE OCTOBER PERMANENT.
SO WE WOULD, AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, WE CAN USE THOSE BUSES HERE.
AND SO THE STATIONS AVAILABLE, WE ALREADY KNOW WE CAN MAKE IT, BUT WE CAN, WE HAVE A PLAN WHERE WE COULD USE THOSE BUSES IN THE MEET POINT AREA UNTIL THAT STATIONS BUILT, THEN SWITCHED FROM BOTH OF THEM.
AND JUST ASK FOR INFORMATION VERSUS WHAT'S THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
THE STATION TAKES A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS.
IT MAY TAKE US, UM, YOU KNOW, IT CAN TAKE THREE MONTHS.
AND HE EVER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS? MS. BELL.
UM, DO YOU SEE MR. CAMPBELL? HE MAKES COMMENTS OR MS. GROW-BY.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY? NO.
DO YOU WANT ME TO ATTEMPT IT? SURE.
SO, UH, I MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION APPROVED THE USE OF FYI 2023 EQUALS THE CAPITAL FUNDS FOR THE USE OF A PROPANE BUS FUELING STATION.
THIS WILL BE A, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 200,000.
SO THAT ITEM SHALL BE LISTED IN THE FYI 20, 23, 8% CAPITAL PLANS LIST OF CONTINGENCY RECOMMENDED PROJECTS.
MR. SMITH, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN SENDING THAT MOTION? UH, ASHLEY, UM, I'M STILL LEARNING.
SO, UM, I STILL WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION, SO I WOULD PREFER TO ABSTAIN.
SO IF YOU WANT ME TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE GAVEL, MS. PATRICK, I THINK THE, UM, MOTION HAS TO BE THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD.
YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD, THE FOLLOWING MOTION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE IT.
I RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION APPROVED THE USE OF FYI 28% CAP OR THE USE OF PROFANE BUS DEALING STATION.
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THEY SHOULD NOT THIS SHIP BE A NATURAL EXCEED.THE AMOUNT OF $200,000 SHALL BE FOR THE 2023.
I'M CONSIDERED TO SEE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS.
MR. SMITH, YOU'RE VOTING ABSTENTION OR OPPOSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. AWNING.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, RFP FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
SO AS WE KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, UM, RFP IS OUT FOR OUR, UM, UH, CM AT RISK CONTRACTORS.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT.
UM, YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE CONTRACT FORMAT FROM MR. HALLIGAN ON HOW THIS WORKS AND HOW THE ARCHITECT AND CONTRACTOR ARE HIRED EARLY AND WORK TOGETHER ON THE PROJECTS.
THEY'RE BEING HIRED FOR BOTH 8% PROJECTS AND REFERENDUM PROJECTS AS OUR GOAL IS TO CLOSE DOWN AS USEFUL AS POSSIBLE AND DO BOTH SETS OF WORK, UH, AS A SCHOOL IS CLOSED DOWN.
UM, SO THEY WILL BE HIRED TO, UH, COMPLETE THE REMAINING OF THE SAFETY SECURITY TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES THAT ARE IN THE RFP.
AND THEY'LL ALSO BE HIRED TO SAY, DO THE FYI 2023 PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD ALREADY TO OCCUR NEXT SUMMER.
UM, AND WE, IN OUR LAST ROUND, THIS IS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT.
UM, IN OUR LAST ROUND WE HIRED, UH, FOUR CONTRACTORS ARE IN OUR ESTIMATE WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD DO THE SAME GOING FORWARD, BUT THAT'LL BE UP TO THE SELECTION.
SO THAT ALL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND IT IS CURRENTLY ONLINE AND POSTED.
UM, THIS IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU FOR US TO SO STILLS.
AND SO THE O E THAT WE NOTIFIED THE BOARD OF ANY SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR ANY CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECTS ARE FOR MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AND ROBERT, IF I MAY ADD REAL QUICK, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL TO POST THAT RFP TODAY, THAT MATERIAL WAS PROVIDED.
SO IT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN BOARD DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS ON THE DISTRICT PROCUREMENT WEBSITE.
SO TWO LOCATIONS FOR YOU TO SEE THAT INFORMATION, AND I GUESS, SORRY, IT WILL BE ADVERTISED TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, UH, THROUGH SCHIAVO, UH, LOCAL, UH, PAPERS, CHAMBER, CHARLESTON, PAPER, COLUMBIA PAPER, UH, ALL OUR LIST OF AREAS WHERE IT'S TYPICALLY AVERAGING.
WHEN YOU SAY, ARE WE HIRING CONTRACTORS? SO WHAT I'M LETTING YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE JUST PUT OUT THE RFP FOR CONTRACT.
THE RFP FOR ARCHITECTS IS CURRENTLY ALREADY OUT.
SO WE TYPICALLY WILL PUT THE ARCHITECT OUT A MONTH BEFORE THE CONTRACT AND WE'LL HIRE THE ARCHITECTS, GET THEM ON BOARD A MONTH LATER, WE COME TO YOU WITH CONTRACTS AND WE MATCH THEM ALL UP.
THE ARCHITECTS ARE NEEDED FIRST, SO THEY CAN GET STARTED AND STOKE OFF PROJECTS.
SO BASICALLY YOU ARE UPDATING US ON THE RFPS THAT YOU HAVE OUT.
IS THAT, WAS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YES, SIR.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO RFPS DON'T COME BEFORE THE BOARD
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BEFORE THEY, BEFORE THEY GO OUT.YOUR OEM DOES REQUIRE US TO NOTIFY YOU OF A SELECTION COMMITTEE PRIOR FOR ANY MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
SO I, MY, THE INTERPRETATION THAT WE HAD IS WE NEED TO INFORM YOU AN RFP IS OUT.
AND OF COURSE, PART OF THAT, OR A P PROCESS YOU CAN SEE IN THERE, THE SCHEDULE THAT SCHEDULE IN THE RFP LETS YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ARE DUE AND FOLLOWING THE RECEIPT OF THE PROPOSALS, A SELECTION COMMITTEE WILL BE FORMED AND THEY WILL MEET AND REVIEW THE RFP AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHICH WILL THEN BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
SO SHOW JUST TO, SO BASICALLY YOUR OFFICE, THEY INFORMED, THEY INFORMED THE BOARD THAT AN RFP HAS BEEN PUT OUT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
NO, I'M I'M, I'M JUST, I'M I'M S I SAID REGURGITATING THE WAY I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND THAT YOU JUST TOLD ME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO WANT TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
I DO HAVE THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS, BUT THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO ONE, YOU SAID BASICALLY YOUR OFFICE AND INFORMS THE BOARD THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY PUT OUT AN RFP RFP THAT'S STEP ONE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
NOW STEP TWO, IS THAT ONCE THE RFP IS BACK AND Y'ALL GETTING, Y'ALL GET THE FINAL BID, THEN Y'ALL COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO LET US KNOW BASICALLY WHO YOU HAVE CHOSEN AND FORCED TO APPROVE THAT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHO WE'RE CHOOSING AS PART OF THE RFP? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE OF SETS IN BETWEEN.
UM, BUT, UM, I GUESS STEP, YOU KNOW, STEP TWO REALLY IS WE RECEIVED THE RFP.
UM, AFTER THAT WE FORM A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE RFDS, FOLLOWING THAT THE RFP, THE COMMITTEE MEETS REVIEWS, THE RFPS AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN THAT GETS TO THAT STEP.
YOU JUST MENTIONED WHERE THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
I WANTED TO JUST UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE WHOLE PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS AND AT HIGH HIGH, IT WORKS.
AND THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.
I WILL HANDLE ZACH AND INSTRUCTIONAL FOR AN UPDATE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE OR PUT IT IN HERE.
I THINK WE CAN MAYBE PICK UP THE SEVENTH TABLE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROVIDING THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE JULY, UH, CONSTRUCTION UPDATES.
UH, ROBIN, IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
UH, I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION, UH, PERTINENT TO YOUR, FOR ELEMENTARY.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY REPORTING THAT PROJECT LIKE YELLOW STATUS FLAGS FOR THE SCHEDULE.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO RETURN THAT BACK TO GREEN START SCHOOL, BUT IN THE MONTH OF JULY, THE ELECTRICAL SUBCONTRACTOR FELL BEHIND SCHEDULE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, HG RENTALS BROUGHT IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM TWO OTHER ELECTRICAL, UH, SUBCONTRACTORS SUPPLEMENT THE WORKFORCE, UH, THAT HELPED, UH, DRASTICALLY, UH, OSF, OVERHEAD INSPECTION WAS APPROVED ON AUGUST 3RD AND THERE WAS LESS OF SOME DEFICIENCIES.
THOSE WERE CORRECTED AND WE HAD A RE-INSPECTION THAT WAS PASSED ON AUGUST 5TH.
THE FINAL OSF INSPECTION I REGRETFULLY INFORM YOU DID NOT PASS.
UH, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING VERY HARD SO THAT WE CAN DO A RE-INSPECTION TOMORROW MORNING AT 7:00 AM, UH, WITH A GOAL OF GETTING THAT THIRD PARTY RE-INSPECTION PASSED, IT WILL BE FOR CONDITIONAL OCCUPANCY THAT WILL REQUIRE
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A REUSE OF A FIREWATCH.UH, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, HD REYNOLDS IS QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING.
UH, THE STAFF WILL WORK REMOTELY TOMORROW, UH, AND ALSO HAVE A REMOTE STAFF MEETING.
UH, BUT WITH THE PASSING OF THE 7:00 AM PER PARTY, RE-INSPECTION THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BRING THE STAFF INTO THE BUILDING ON FRIDAY.
UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE WITH THE OPERATION COMMITTEE BOARD MEMBERS AND EVERYONE ELSE.
THAT'S LISTENING TO THIS AFTERNOON, THAT IF YOU GO TO THE SITE OR YOU HEAR FROM SOMEBODY THAT MAY HAVE SEEN THE SITE, THAT SITE IS NOT IN A CONDITION THAT'S GOING TO BE READY FOR STUDENTS RECOGNIZE THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY A LOT WILL OCCUR THROUGH THE END OF THIS WEEK, AS WELL AS THROUGH THE WEEKEND.
SO THAT WE'LL BE IN GOOD POSITION FOR THE START OF SCHOOL IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING, UH, DOES NOT GO TO PLAN.
WE ARE DEVELOPING A PLAN B THROUGH THE USE OF, UH, BOTH, UH, UH, DR.
BRADLEY AS WELL AS OTHER RESOURCES, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A PLAN B IN THE EVENT THAT IS NEEDED.
UM, I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
SO MR. SMITH, YOUR HAND IS UP.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, MA'AM OKAY I DO.
SO TEACHERS WERE TOLD THEY COULD, THEY WOULD BE BACK IN THE BUILDING INITIALLY WEDNESDAY, RIGHT.
AND SO NOW IT'S FRIDAY, RIGHT? SO TEACHERS HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE BUILDING AT ALL TO GET THEIR CLASSROOMS READY AND STUDENTS, WE ARE HOPING WILL BE ONSITE ON MONDAY.
UM, SO WHAT KIND OF, WHY WOULD WE FAIL AN WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE HAVING INSPECTIONS PERIODICALLY, RIGHT? WHAT WOULD CAUSE A FINAL INSPECTION? WHAT COULD THAT BE? GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT I THINK WOULD BE, UH, ABLE TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS PART OF LIFE SAFETY, THERE'S EMERGENCY BREASTS, LIGHTING THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND WE WERE UPGRADING ALL OF THAT SYSTEM AS PART OF THESE MAJOR RENOVATIONS BEFORE THE FINAL INSPECTION WE WENT THROUGH AS WE DO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR PROJECTS AND WE TESTED EVERYTHING WAS WORKING JUST FOR WHATEVER REASON.
WE WERE STILL TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE WENT TO TEST WITH THE OFFICE STAFF INSPECTOR PRESENT ON THE SITE, DIDN'T WORK AT ALL AREAS.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO TRACE DOWN BECAUSE WE SAW FIRSTHAND THAT IT HAD PASSED OUR PRELIMINARY INSPECTIONS.
AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE IN GOOD SHAPE.
BUT WHEN THE FINAL INSPECTION TOOK PLACE, IT JUST WAS JUST A LOT OF WORK GOING ON.
WHEN YOU GOT A LOT OF WORK GOING ON, ONE THING MAY HAVE IMPACTED ANOTHER THAT.
THEY DIDN'T FIND THAT IT IS NOT OPTIMAL AND WORKING TO CORRECT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO TODAY, SO THE NEXT INSPECTION IS WHEN MY CONCERN ME JUST, I KNOW WE'RE RUSHING.
I KNOW WE'RE RUSHING TO GET IT DONE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THESE KIDS TO COME BACK, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE'S CLEAN AND I'D RATHER HAVE SOME SORT OF REMOTE PLAN RATHER THAN TRYING TO RUSH KIDS BACK INTO A BUILDING.
AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE PLAN B SO THAT WE, WE DO HAVE A FALLBACK PLAN, BUT REST ASSURED WE WILL NOT BRING STAFF OR STUDENTS INTO A FACILITY.
DOC, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ALONG QUICKLY.
SLIDES FIVE AND SIX ARE RELATED TO BATTER CREEK ICE BOLT.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT STILL REPORTING ON BUDGET AND ON SCHEDULE.
EVERYTHING IS MOVING QUITE WELL ON IT.
BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, MOVING ALONG TO SLIDE SEVEN, ROBERT SMALLS INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY.
THIS ONE DOES HAVE YELLOW LIGHTS FOR BUDGET AND SCHEDULE.
UH, WE'VE BRIEFED THIS PREVIOUSLY AND JUST, UH, LAST WEEK AT THE AUGUST 3RD WORD MEETING, THE BOARD APPROVED THE EARLY STILL PACKAGE A LONG LEAD TIMES WITH THAT STILL,
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IF YOU RECALL, UH, WAS DRIVING THE NEED FOR A SCHEDULE REVISION.UH, SO WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT A SCHEDULED START THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE SPRING OF POINT 22.
NOW THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT UPON GETTING CONFIRMATION AS THAT GETS CLOSER FROM STEEL SUPPLIER, BUT WE BELIEVE SPRING TIMEFRAME IS, UH, ACCURATE, UH, UH, PERIOD FOR US TO RECEIVE THE STEEL.
AND OUR COMPLETION OF THE NEW SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE SCHEDULED TO OCCUR IN JULY, 2023, UH, GMP AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT, THAT IS ON SCHEDULE TO GO TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK AT AUGUST 17TH FOR APPROVAL, AS WE BRIEF PREVIOUSLY, THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME NEW PROGRAM CONTINGENCY.
THE AMOUNT OF IT IS IN THE ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, RIGHT AROUND $2 MILLION.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL POINT OUT IS THAT IN THE ORIGINAL SET OF DRAWINGS AND WHERE PROVISIONS TO, UH, PROVIDE PRICING FOR A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM, UH, WE ARE NOT BRINGING A RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THAT, BUT THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE AS AN ALTERNATE FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE CONCESSION, UH, BUILDINGS THAT, UH, ALTERNATE IS ROUGHLY 1.8, 2 MILLION.
UH, OUR PLAN FOR THIS IS ONCE WE GET THE MAIN BUILDING REPLACEMENT, GMP APPROVED, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT INSIDE OF THAT GMP, JUST LIKE WE HAVE WITH EACH OF OUR PROJECTS IS 5% CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY WITH THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT, BEING WHAT IT IS.
UH, THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY WILL BE IN THE MAGNITUDE OF AROUND 2.9 MILLION.
WHAT, UH, OUR GOAL IS, IS TO CONSTRUCT THE REPLACEMENT SCHOOL, GET OUT OF THE GROUND, GET ALL OF THE UNFORESEENS BEHIND US, UH, AND THEN LOOK AT HOW MUCH CONTINGENCY REMAINS AND APPLY THAT TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO AWARD THE WORK, THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE CONCESSIONS.
YEAH, SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS I REMEMBER IN THE CLOCK, YOU SAID ABOUT $2 MILLION AND THEN YOU KIND OF THREW OUT THE 1.8, TWO ATHLETIC FIELDS.
ARE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD? WOULD THAT BE IN THE 2 MILLION? LIKE, I'M JUST TRYING TO TRACK DOWN THE NUMBERS, BUT THE 1.82 AS AN ALTERNATE, AND I WOULD NOT BE BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK AS A RECOMMENDATION, IT COULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE BOARD, CONSIDER THAT TO A WARD THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO UTILIZE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF YOUR CONTINGENCY TO GET AN AWARD.
AND NOW, BUT IN TALKING IT THROUGH THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, JE DUNN, WE BELIEVE THAT THE TIMING WOULD BE SUCH THAT WE CAN REVISIT THIS AS WE MAKE PROGRESS.
AND WE CAN'T START THIS WORK UNTIL THE REPLACEMENT SCHOOL HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
SO TIMING WISE, I THINK IT WORKS OUT WELL.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE BRINGING NONE THE FULL-TIME FOR THE ATHLETIC KILOGRAM BRAND.
SEE, SEE, AND THEN ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT, THE ONLY THING IS PLEASE RECOGNIZE.
SO THE ATHLETIC FIELDS COME EASILY TO GROW ON LATER THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.
IF THEY'RE NOT ADDED NOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO, I MEAN, AND WE'LL EXPLAIN THAT AT THE GMP, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD THAT IN, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT THE PLAY FIELDS CAN EASILY BE ADDED.
AND I GUESS ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, CAUSE YOU HEARD US MENTION USE OF PROGRAM CONTINGENCY.
ROBERT AND I ARE NOT OVERLY CONCERNED ON THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO ON A REGULAR BASIS IS LOOK AT THE USE TODAY AND WHERE WE ARE OVERALL IN THE PROGRAM.
AND, UH, AT THE CLOCK MEETING, YOU THOUGHT YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUILDING PROGRAM AND I'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE GOALS BEHIND THE MID PROGRAM RESET EXERCISE.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS GMP, UH, UH, AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE COMING NEXT WEEK, THE BOARD, IF WE INCLUDE THE AWARD OF THAT, WE WILL HAVE PUT UNDER CONTRACT OR COMPLETED AND MAKE PAYMENTS TO DATE REPRESENT 66% OF THE OVERALL REFERENDUM PROGRAM.
SO ROUGHLY TWO THIRDS THROUGH IT NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS LARGE PROJECT AT ROBERT SMALLS INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CONTINGENCY WHERE IT STARTED, WHAT WE'VE USED TODAY, THE FORECAST THAT SAVINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRACKING AND PUTTING BACK, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE $2 MILLION THAT ONE OF THE REQUESTS NEXT WEEK, THE AMOUNT
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OF CONTINGENCY USE WILL BE CLOSER TO ABOUT 62% OF THAT OVERALL.SO LOOKING AT 66% OF THE PROGRAM LAUNCHED AND UNDER CONTRACT, WE'VE ONLY USED ABOUT 52% OF THE AVAILABLE CONTINGENCY THAT REMAINS PLUS WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING.
I THINK WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE CONTINGENCY WISE, AND THIS IS WHAT THE CONTINGENCY WAS ESTABLISHED FOR WAS EXAMPLES LIKE THIS.
AND THERE'S MORE, UH, FORECASTED FUNDS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE FROM PROJECTS AS WE CLOSE THEM OUT.
LET'S TRY TO KEEP TRACK OF THE NUMBERS MR. LAVON.
SO, UM, WHEN I W W WHY DID WE MAKE THE DECISION TO, UM, HOW WAS THE DECISION MADE TO SCRAP THE, UH, THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING WHO IS INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT DECISION? BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD YOU SAY IS WE COULD EASILY DO THE PLAY FIELDS LATER, BUT WE CAN'T DO THE MULTIPLE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING LATER.
SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, ONE, YOU KNOW, HOW HAS IT ARRIVED AT THAT? WE WOULD JUST TAKE THAT OUT AND TO WHAT SPACE WILL BE USED IN PLACE OF THAT.
I KNOW AS A, UH, EX ELEMENTARY PRINCIPAL MULTIPURPOSE ROOM IS PRETTY IMPORTANT AT A SCHOOL THAT SERVES A ELEMENTARY STUDENT.
UH, THAT IS THE EXACT QUESTION I HAVE.
UM, MY EXPERIENCE WITH ROBERT SMALLS IS A MENTAL SQUAT AND WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS DETERMINATION, AND THIS CONCERNS ME GREATLY.
SO, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, AS FAR AS THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM RECOGNIZE WE'RE LOOKING AT A MODEL LIKE, UH, UH, RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY DOES NOT, THEY HAVE THE GYM AND HAD THE DIVISION OF THE GYM, UH, WHERE ROBERT SMALLS DOES CURRENT.
SO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, ONE GAUGE RATE THAT HASN'T WHEN IT DOESN'T, AS FAR AS WHO MAKES THE DECISION, THAT DECISION HASN'T BEEN MADE, THAT DECISION WE MADE.
BUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING, WE'RE BRINGING TO THE BOARD AND THE OPTIONS, AND WE'RE BRINGING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW IS THAT THERE'S BEEN CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITION CONTINGENCY USE.
SO WE'RE WATCHING THAT VERY CLOSELY, HOW WE USE IT.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT LOW, BUT, BUT QUITE HONESTLY, AS MR
THAT IS YOUR AS YOUR DECISION TO MAKE.
AND, BUT I WOULD SAY, UM, PART OF THAT RESET EXERCISE THAT W WE'RE STILL BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR CONTINGENCIES, UM, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PRICE INFLATIONS AND THINGS.
YOU RIGHT NOW HAVE PLENTY OF CONTINGENCY FUNDS, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THE CALCULATION, I GUESS, WHERE, BEFORE THE GMP, WHERE WE WOULD BE, IF YOU DO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD, I THINK IT'S 1.7 MILLION 1.2, 3 MILLION, AND THAT WILL BE IN THE BOARD MATERIAL FOUR THIRDS UP FOR NEXT WEEK'S MEETING AS WELL.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW PERCENTAGES THAT BE A CALCULATION I CAN PERFORM AND BRING TO THE BOARD MEETING AS WELL, THAT'S A PLEASURE, MR. TERRENCE, WHAT ARE HIS THOUGHTS ON THIS? I KNOW THAT DR.
LEVANT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE, UH, COSTS CUTTING EXTRA, YOU KNOW, OUR VALUE ENGINEERING AND, UH, LIKE YOU, SHE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, BUT RECOGNIZE WHERE WE WERE WITH THE BUDGET AND HOW WE NEEDED TO GET IT DOWN CLOSER TO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.
SHE WAS OKAY WITH THE REMOVAL AS YOU SHE'D LIKE TO PREFER TO HAVE IT IN THERE AS FAR AS THINGS TO BE CUT.
AND WE WERE NOT WANTING TO CUT THE THINGS WE KIND OF WERE, IF YOU CALL IT NON-NEGOTIABLES.
AND WE WERE ALL ON BOARD, WE WERE NOT GOING TO TAKING ANY MORE AWAY FROM THE ACADEMIC AREA.
WE ALSO DID NOT WANT TO TAKE ANY WAY FROM THE FRONT PUBLIC SPACE THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED AND THE CONCEPT BEHIND THAT.
SO THOSE KIND OF THOSE TWO ITEMS WERE KIND OF OFF WE, ANYTHING WE DID THERE JUST
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HAD TO BE FINDING A MORE AFFORDABLE WAY TO DO THE SAME THING.AND, UM, SO THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, ALTHOUGH WANTED, YOU COULD SAY IS NOT A NECESSITY, MR. SMITH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS AS LONG AS THE SAME AS YOU AND MRS. ROBOT, BUT, BUT ALSO, UM, IF, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME, CORRECT, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WHEN, WHEN THEY HAD THESE MEETINGS, THEY ALSO INCLUDED THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WAS WONDERING WHEN THEY, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THAT DECISION WAS MADE BY THE FORMER PRINCIPAL AND NEW INCOMING, INCOMING PRINCIPAL, THEY WILL ALSO HAVE THE COMMUNITY AND INVITE INVOLVED IN THAT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO, WELL, I WON'T SAY ASK THEM FOR A MOMENT, ASK THEM FOR MORE TEXTILES, BUT I MEAN, WE, WE SHOULD HAVE THEIR BUY-IN TOO, BUT ALSO WITH A, WITH IT BEING A K A K EIGHT BUILDING, THEN I'M SURE THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE THEY WILL NEED THAT MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.
SO THAT BRINGS ME A LARGE BIT OF CONCERN THAT WE WOULD TOO, THAT WE WOULD NEGATE TO NOT BUILD THAT AT, AT, AT, AT THIS, BY THIS POINT IN TIME, WE WOULD MAKE THAT AN OPTION.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING CALLED, LIKE MY GRANDMA WOULD TELL ME SOMETHING CALLED
IF YOU PAY ME NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY ME MORE LATER.
I THINK WE WOULD PREFER TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM THE CORRECT.
THE FIRST TIME, IS THERE A RESPONSE REQUIRED? WAS THAT A STATEMENT MR. SMITH? UH, THAT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS A STATEMENT IN ALSO A RESPONSE.
THERE IS THE RESPONSE WOULD BE WHEN THE PRINCIPAL AND THE, UH, THE FORMER PRINCIPAL, THE INCOMING PRINCIPAL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GIVE A REBUTTAL ON GETTING RID OF IT.
THEY ALSO WANT YOU TO CONVINCE YOU THE FIRST TIME WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DID ALL THIS, DID THEY GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AGAIN? I WAS GOING TO JUST SAY THAT THE NEW PRINCIPAL REALLY HAS JUST BEEN BROUGHT UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE ARE.
SO I WOULD SAY THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE THERE OTHER THAN JUST INFORMING HIM OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
I KNOW ROB, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THIS JUST A MINUTE.
THE PLAN IS TO GO BACK TO THE COMPUTING COMMUNITY ONCE THE BOARD APPROVES THE GMP.
SO REALLY THE SELECTION OF WHETHER THAT'S IN THE PROJECT OR OUT B OF THE CHOICES OF THE BOARD, ONCE THE BOARD MAKES THAT FINAL DECISION, WE WILL GO BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT THE PRODUCT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT GETTING CONSTRUCTION STARTED.
ALTHOUGH WE HAD A LITTLE DELAY, WHY WE WAIT ON STEEL? UM, SO, UH, WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE INFORM THEM KIND OF WORK, WHAT THE BOARD'S CHOICE WAS AND WHAT WAS DECIDED.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS IMPORTANT, WILL THAT MULTIPURPOSE ROOM IN THERE, I'D LOVE TO HAVE IT IN THERE AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND US FIGHTING AGAINST THAT MEETING.
SO THIS IS RELATED TO MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS, BUT WE GOT, WE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS COMING UP TOO.
AND SO KNOW, I THINK WE NEED A LARGE LOOK AT THE WHOLE LIST OF THINGS COMING UP AND NOT JUST LOOK ONE AT A TIME.
IT GIVES ONE PROJECT, EVERYTHING THEY WANT AND RUN OUT OF MONEY FOR THE NEXT PROJECT.
SO JUST, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK ON SOME OF THAT.
MY QUESTION THOUGH, AND THIS IS MORE ON AN 8%, BUT WE ANTICIPATED TEARING THE SCHOOL DOWN NEXT YEAR.
NOW IT'S PUSHED BACK HERE BECAUSE OF THE DELAY AND HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND? SO IT WAS MINIMAL THING.
UM, BUT RECOGNIZING THAT, EXCUSE ME, MS. PEOPLE, SHE SAID, BECAUSE SHE, SHE WENT WRONG AND I COULDN'T HEAR, COULD YOU REPEAT THOSE QUESTIONS AGAIN? IF WE KNEW THE SCHOOL WAS GOING TO BE ON A DEMO AT SOME POINT, WHY WE PAINTED IT AS AN 8% PROJECT? SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, SO MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS NO CORRIDORS ARE PAINTED EVERY THREE YEARS.
AND SO THEY'RE ON A THREE-YEAR CYCLE.
THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE TO SIT THERE FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF TWO YEARS AS IT IS.
UM, JUST FELT LIKE WE COULD NOT LET THIS BUILDING GO DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, LIKE IT WAS BEING NEGLECTED.
SO WE DID, I THINK A NEW GLITTERS CORRIDORS PAINTING PAINTING THAN THE AMOUNT WAS $54,047.
SO WE HAD STANDARD MIDDLE SCHOOLS EVERY YES, I MEAN, AND IT IS, BUT IT ISN'T WHEN YOU GET TO THIS POINT, LIKE THIS, WE'RE BUILDING SOCIETY TO BE DEMOLISHED, YOU KNOW, WHAT
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YOU DO AND WHAT YOU DON'T DO, BUT CAUSE YOU GOTTA TRY NOT TO SPEND AS MUCH, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP IT IN AS GOOD AS SHAPE AS POSSIBLE.SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR PRINCIPLE.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THAT TO ME, IT MAKES MORE EDUCATIONAL SENSE TO HAVE A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM THAN IT DOES TO HAVE A CONCESSION STAND.
I CONCESSION BUILDING THIS RABBI, MR. AUDIENCE, GETTING TO A MICROSOFT, THAT CONCESSION BUILDING.
UM, AS FAR AS WITH IT'S REQUIRED WITH ATHLETICS, HAVE A RESTROOM, IT'S A CONCESSION AND RESTROOM BUILDING AND IT'S THE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE BUILDING REQUIRES US TO HAVE RESTROOMS FACILITIES AT THE FIELDS THAT AS A REQUIREMENT OF OSS, I RENAME IT THEN JUST LIKE IT'S ONLY CONCESSIONS.
THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE IN OTHER BUILDINGS, SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN MAYBE MR. CAMPBELL.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT, UM, SOME OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL DOES HAVE CONCESSION STANDS AND I THINK THEY HAVE IT.
THEN ROBERT SMART SHOULD HAVE ONE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A FOOTBALL FIELD.
SO I THINK REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE ARE SOME GREAT INTERESTS AND BRINGING FORWARD SOME NUMBERS AND THOUGHTS ON MAKING SURE THE MULTI-PURPOSE GRAHAM IS INCLUDED.
UM, CAN I JUST ASK, DID WE PURCHASE IN SEAL FOR IT? IT ISN'T INCLUDED IF THAT PRICE IS LOCKED IN, IN THE EVENT THAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM, WE ARE LOCKED IN ON THE STEEL PRICES.
WE LOCKED IN THE COST PER TON, AS WELL AS THE DELIVERY SCHEDULE.
SO NEXT WEEK, IF PREFERENCE OF THE BOARD IS TO ADD IT, WE PUT IT RIGHT IN WITH THE SAME ORDER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PLACE? ALL RIGHT.
MOVING ALONG, SLIDES NINE, 10 AND 13.
UH, THOSE ARE THE SLIDES FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND, ELEMENT ELEMENTARY AND AGING MUCKRACK.
AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGING ONCE AGAIN, THOSE YELLOW LIGHTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AND THEN RESCHEDULING OF SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE WORK AFTER THE SUMMER, UH, I GUESS MOVING ALONG TO SLIDE 14, WHICH WOULD PUT US AT HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WE'RE JUST SKIPPING 12.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT 12 IF SOMETHING'S DUE BY AUGUST 13TH? AND SO WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
CAN WE TALK, ARE WE THAT'S TOMORROW, RIGHT? IT'S FRIDAY, FRIDAY, FRIDAY THE 13TH.
YOU'LL HEAR ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ONE.
LET'S GET TO THE MID PROGRAM RESET, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE THE DESIGN AND THE COSTS MAY BE ALIGNING.
BUT A PROJECT MANAGER HAS BEEN IN TOUCH TWO WEEKS AGO.
HE'S TOUCHED BASE AGAIN THIS WEEK.
I HAVE NOT HEARD IF HE GOT CONFIRMATION, BUT SCHEDULED DOES REFLECT THAT WE RECEIVED THAT THIS FRIDAY.
SO ONE THING I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK I WAS AT THE, UM, MEETING WITH THE NEW PRINCIPAL AND THE QUESTIONS WERE ALL ABOUT LACK OF COMMUNICATION WHILE YOUR PARENTS WEREN'T AWARE PARENTS.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR STARTING TO TALK TO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH HILTON AND MIDDLE, BUT THEY'RE HEARING THINGS THEY'RE CONFUSED.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE MOBILES AREN'T SHOWING UP UNTIL THE 18TH AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DRAMATIC WHEN THEY PULL UP, YOU KNOW? SO I JUST THINK IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD DO.
THIS IS SORT OF COMMUNITY OUTRAGE.
THERE'S LESS CONFUSION, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW LEADERSHIP.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
I THINK IT WAS PART OF OUR BIG PLAN TO DO THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVERYWHERE.
WE'VE DONE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
IT'S BEEN WELL-RECEIVED BIG PROJECT LIKE THIS.
AND JUST SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THE RELOCATION HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
IF YOU RECALL THE WEATHER THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN JULY, THE HEAVY RAINS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCED, WE JUST CAN'T MOVE A BIG UNIT.
IF IT'S NOT CRITICISM WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S QUESTIONS AS A COMMUNITY, NOT LIKE ANGRY OR CONCERNED, THEY'RE JUST LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I'VE PUT IT DOWN ON THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETING SCHEDULED IN THE NEAR
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FUTURE.THEN WE MOVE ALONG TO SLIDE 14 REAL QUICK, UH, HILTON HEAD ISLAND, HIGH SCHOOL GOT YELLOW TRAFFIC, LIGHT BEING REPORTED UNDER SAFETY SECURITY.
THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH LONG MATERIAL LEAD TIMES.
I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT IN THESE MARKET CONDITIONS, THAT'S PREVAILING ON MANY FRONTS THAT SECURITY, VAST SEVILLE, UH, THAT INSTALLATION SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE COORDINATED.
WE'RE UNDERWAY WITH COORDINATING IT NOW WITH SCHOOL, UH, BUT WANTED TO, UH, JU UH, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THAT, UH, WAS NOT ABLE TO BE FINISHED THE SUMMER.
AND, UH, SOON AS WE CAN HAVE A LOCK IN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THAT THERE'S LEAD TIMES, ROUGHLY 12 WEEKS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE NEED.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE SCHOOL AND FIGURE OUT WHEN WE CAN, UH, FACILITATE PERFORMING THAT WORK.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON AT THAT PROJECT IS THE TURF FIELD.
HER FIELD PERMIT HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
THE PRIOR YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHT HAS BEEN RETURNED TO GREEN CONSTRUCTION BEGAN THE WEEK OF ALL THE SECOND.
UH, WE'VE HAD CONEX BOXES DELIVERED OVER THERE.
I WAS INFORMED AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAD TO GO GET SOME STUFF.
WELL, I DON'T THINK A PROJECT MANAGER TODAY.
AND IT WAS INFORMATION TO ME IS THAT WE HAD INSTALLATION OF THE EROSION FILTER BAGS ON THE STORMWATER INLETS TAKING PLACE.
WHEN I WAS THERE AT ONE O'CLOCK.
NOW, WHEN I WILL SAY IS MY CONCERNS TOWARDS THE CRITICAL PATH OF THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS THAT THE TOWN STILL WANTS TO SELL FENCE IS UP.
THE TOWN STILL HAS TO COME IN AND DO IT.
SO I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TODAY, I DID GET A TEXT THAT VANTAGE POINT OF SAVANNAH FOR POLES.
I DO KNOW THAT THE VERY NEXT STEP THAT THE TODD CRACKER PLANS THERE'S TO PUT IN PLACE THAT SILT FENCE CAN WE DO RECOGNIZE THE TIGHTNESS OF THE PROJECT.
UH, ONCE WE LOOK AT WHEN WORK BEGAN, THE FIRST FOOTBALL GAME IS SCHEDULED TO OCCUR ON OCTOBER EIGHT, CORRECT.
AND UNDER THE SCHEDULE WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'RE SHOWING A COMPLETION DATE OF OCTOBER 2ND, BECAUSE IT'S SO TIGHT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND LOOKING FOR ME FOR A SHOE ANIMALS TO ACCELERATE OTHER ACTIVITIES.
SO WE SET OURSELVES UP SO THAT WE COULD FINISH THAT WORK WELL IN ADVANCE, OR AS MUCH AS IN ADVANCE OF THE OCTOBER EIGHT DATE AS POSSIBLE.
THAT'S JUST WHAT IT'S GOING TO BREAK IT UP.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE JUST AT THE SILT FENCE, BUT I KNOW THAT IT HAS TO SIGN OFF ON ITSELF.
AND I KNOW AUGUST 16TH IS A PRETTY HARD DATE FOR A CRITICAL PATH.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I WAS BY THERE AT 10 TO THREE THIS AFTERNOON AND NOTHING IS NOTHING GOING ON.
IF SOMEONE'S TELLING YOU THERE'S STUFF GOING ON, I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, TEND TO THREE, THERE WAS NOTHING I WILL TRUST, BUT VERIFY SOUNDS LIKE SOME VERIFICATIONS IN ORDER TO THAT, WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS HE'S OF COURSE YOU ARE RIGHT.
I ALWAYS REFER TO THAT TYPE OF INPUT AS BEING ABLE TO HAVE THUMB ON THE PULSE.
THAT INFLUENCE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
MOVING ALONG TO SLIDE 15 FROM BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL, UH, THAT ONE, UH, JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TURF FIELD THAT ONE HAD LONG LEAD MATERIALS AND WHAT THE FIRST HOME FOOTBALL GAME BEING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 10TH.
WHEN WE RAN INTO THE ISSUE OF THE PERMIT, THOSE, UH, SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WERE ALIGNED HAD TO BE RELEASED SO THEY COULD GO DO OTHER WORK.
UH, THE SUBCONTRACTOR THAT WAS FIRST AVAILABLE, AS SOON AS HE COULD WORK, BEGIN THAT PROJECT WAS THE END OF THIS LUMP ON AUGUST 30TH.
UH, THAT JUST DOESN'T GIVE US THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE NEED.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO COORDINATE THAT.
WE'LL BE DOING THAT TO REFILL ONCE THE FALL SEASON CONCLUDES MOVING ALONG.
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UP TO ABOUT SLIDE 23 IS IN GOOD SHAPE.A LOT OF DETAIL IN THERE, UH, PAUSING ON SLIDE 23.
HELENA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL UP A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GYM RENOVATIONS.
WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD MEETING NEXT TUESDAY ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
UH, WE ARE FINALIZED AND THE GMP, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE REVIEWED IT A FEW TIMES.
WE ARE STILL FINDING THE NEED TO MAKE SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS.
THE, UH, HD REYNOLDS IS MAKING THAT, UH, PERHAPS AFTER THE END OF THIS MEETING, IT'LL BE BACK, UH, SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE IT.
MY GOAL IS FAIRLY AMENDMENT TOMORROW AND HAVE A FINALIZED RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT THAT CAN BE PUT INTO BOARD DOCUMENTS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
UH, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT USE OF CONTINGENCY, UH, PROBABLY IN THE RANGE OF AROUND 400 TO 500,000.
UH, THIS IS A FYI 20, 20 TO 8% APPLE PROJECT AND LOOKING AT AVAILABLE CONTINGENCY FROM THAT FISCAL YEAR THERE'S MILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THAT CONTINGENCY.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, WHETHER OR NOT I CAN GET THIS ROLE TO END, WE'VE HAD SOME INPUT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS OUT OF SCHOOL.
THERE, THERE WAS SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT, UH, HELPED TO IDENTIFY THAT ENTRY OF THAT GYM AND TO GET TO OUR GMP FIGURE THAT IS MORE PRESENTABLE THAT WE CAN BRING IN TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK.
YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT BUDGET BUST ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
AND WHEN WE SAW AN ESTIMATE, IT WAS FOR TWICE THAT AMOUNT.
SO WE DID GO THROUGH IT AND MADE SURE THAT WE WERE ONLY DELIVERING UPON THE SCOPE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT PRESENT TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK IS THE OPTION OF PUTTING IN EITHER AN ALLOWANCE RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS IS WHERE I'VE GOT THE DESIGNER TALKING TO HG MANUALS ON WHAT KIND OF AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE COULD WE DO ON THAT ENTRY TO MEET THE DISTRICT'S OR THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, PURPOSES.
BUT IF WE CAN'T PUT A REALISTIC ALLOWANCE NUMBER ON IT, I'LL BE BRINGING IN A RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT THAT IN IT, BUT IT CAN BE DONE AT A LATER DATE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, $150,000 TYPE OF ALLOWANCE GOING TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE.
AND IF IT IS, AND WE ALSO HAVE A BALL WITH IT, YOU'LL HEAR THAT AT THE BOARD MEETING THAT THAT'S INCLUDED.
IF IT'S NOT, YOU'LL HEAR THAT WE MARKED COMFORTABLE IN THAT.
WE'LL REVISIT THAT, UH, JUST AS SOON AS SPOUSE ADD THE ONLY REASON WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT QUESTION TO ANSWERS QUESTIONS, ONCE AGAIN, MOVING ALONG THROUGH THE SLIDE SHOW, THINGS ARE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.
UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SLIDE.
I'LL PROBABLY CHECK AND GET MY, I COULDN'T GET MY PARTNER TO WORK, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SO, SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHAT THE, BASICALLY WHAT THE, UH, W WHEN Y'ALL WENT OUT TO THE SCHOOL, WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAFF WANTED IS YOU WILL PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD AS WELL TO POSSIBLY GET DONE, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TO WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY TO GET DONE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING NEXT WEEK WOULD NOT BE THE VERSION OF THE GUARANTEE, MAXIMUM PRICE THAT INCLUDED THE, UH, ENTRY BEST YOU BILL, THAT YOU MAY BE SPEAKING UP.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF MR. SMITH? YES, SIR.
YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER RESULTED IN US, REALLY HAVING A SIGNIFICANT BUDGET OVERRUN ON A $1 MILLION PROJECT SEEMS VIGOROUS CLOSER TO $2 MILLION.
UM, THE TEAM DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH, SO AS YOU HEARD LAST MONTH THAN AT THE BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS GIVING A JUNE UPDATE, BECAUSE THE SCHEDULES THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WHAT WE WERE MAKING MODIFICATIONS OF TO, UH, BETTER
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CONTROL OF THE BOSS ON THIS PROJECT, UH, THE COST WILL STILL, YOU KNOW, WILL REQUIRE CONTINGENCY USE.BUT AS I SAID, I THINK WE CAN FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND, UH, BY, UH, UTILIZING THE TALENTS OF THE DESIGNER AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND THE POSSIBLE USE OF AN ALLOWANCE SO WE CAN LOCK IT IN.
AND THEN THE TEAM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT THIS DELIVERY MODEL BY HAVING AN ARCHITECT AND A SEATTLE, THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS FROM PAINT PLACE.
AND WE CAN FIND OUT HOW THAT IS THE ALLOWANCE FIGURE.
SO ALLOW US TO PUT IT UNDER CONTRACT LOCK IN THE SCOPE AND THEN HAVE THOSE, UH, SOLUTIONS ON THE MODIFIED ENTRY DEVELOPED AND BOUGHT INTO.
SO ONCE, ONCE, ONCE AGAIN, I, I, I HEARD, I HEARD BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAID, BUT, UH, MY, MY QUESTION AGAIN IS BASICALLY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU GOT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO KIND OF CONVINCE TO BASICALLY MEET IN THE MIDDLE.
IS THAT CORRECT TO ME IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF, TO MIDDLE GROUND? YEAH.
I THINK WHAT YOU HEARD ME SAY IS, IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE TO HELP BRING SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO THAT ENTRY OF THAT GYM.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE, UH, LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, WHEN WE'RE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD NEXT WEEK, AND IN THE EVENT THAT WE CAN'T GET TO, UH, UH, APPROPRIATE ALLOWANCE NUMBER TO INCLUDE, THEN WE WOULD NOT INCLUDE THAT RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME, BUT WE WOULD SHARE THAT THAT IS STILL BEING EXPLORED AND THAT OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO LOOK, TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF CHANGE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU, OH, THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.
LIKE I SAID, THE NEXT GROUP OF SLIDES, THE ITEMS ARE WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, LIGHTS ON SCHEDULE TAKES US UP TO SLIDE 29.
WELL, BRANCH ELEMENTARY, UH, WE HAVE A YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHT, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELEMENTARY.
UM, WE BEGAN THE FACADE WORK AND WHEN WE BEGAN DOING THAT, UH, WITH CHANGE AND ADMINISTRATION OUT THERE, AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY, WE STARTED TO HEAR SOME CONCERNS BEING RAISED OVER THE FACADE AND COLOR SELECTION.
AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS JUST PAUSE IT BRAVELY, LET'S GO LOOK AT IT, INVESTIGATE NOW WHAT OPTIONS WE MAY HAVE.
UH, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT ON THE BACK BURNER FOR VERY LONG.
WE WANT TO MOVE IT BACK TO THE FRONT BURNER AND, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, UH, UH, EVALUATION, I WANTED TO MAKE IT, UH, TRANSPARENT TO EVERYBODY THAT THAT WAS OCCURRING.
SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT THE COLORS FOR THE NEXT 30%, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TAKING DOWN WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND REVEALING IT, IT WOULD BE MORE REVISITING THE COLOR SELECTION.
THAT'S WHY THAT THE FACADE THAT 70% LIKE MR. SMITH, YOU SAID THAT, DID I HEAR YOU SAID THAT YOU HEARD SOME AWESOME SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY? YES, SIR.
DID Y'ALL HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING OR HOW YOU RECEIVE THAT? UM, THAT WOULD BE THROUGH, UM, MAY MAINLY STAFF MEMBERS THAT THEN BUILDING, UM, AND PEOPLE THAT THEY HAD BEEN TALKING TO.
AND ACTUALLY ALSO STAFF MEMBERS AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL MEETING.
IT'S JUST INFORMATION THAT WE WERE RECEIVING FROM MULTIPLE PARTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO YOU, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT BASICALLY JUST DIFFERENT DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS AND DISTRICT PERSONNEL BASICALLY INFORMED YOU THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS NOT HAPPY AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL MADE THE DECISION ON.
BUT THEN THERE WAS NO INTERACTION COMMUNITY COMMITTEE MEETING AND NOTHING THAT TOOK PLACE TO EXTRACT THAT INFORMATION FROM THAT IS CORRECT.
MOVING ALONG, UH, TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT, WELL BRANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL ROOFING PROJECT SLIDE 32 ROBIN, UM, AVAILABILITY OF ROOFING INSTALLATION.
UH, ANOTHER ONE OF THE, UH, CHALLENGES WITH, UH, LONG
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LEAD ITEMS CURRENTLY.UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO COORDINATE PERFORMING THAT WORK DURING NON-SCHOOL HOURS.
IF YOU RECALL, AT THE JULY 14TH OPERATION, MANY MEETINGS, WE SHARED THAT COMPLETION DATE HAD MOVED TO Q4 2021.
WE ARE STILL ON TARGET THAT IS STILL NOT CHANGED WITH THIS MONTH.
PLEASE UPDATE, UH, BRIEFLY ABOUT PROJECT OUTS.
UH, WE CONTINUE TO DRIVE FORWARD WITH WORK SO MUCH OF THIS IS JUST, UH, SO CLOSE TO GETTING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
YOU'LL SEE ON SLIDE 35 MAIN RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
IT IS NOW RECORDING AS ACTUALLY CLOSED AS OF THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR WITH THE CLOSURE OF THAT, WE EXECUTED A CHAIN, A DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNUSED CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY.
THE OTHER PIECE I'LL SHARE IS, IS THAT WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO SWEEP AND RETURN TO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY.
THE FIGURES THAT WE SEE ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S EXCELLENT NEWS.
UH, FOR REFERENCE, WE DID, UH, INCLUDE AS REQUESTED BY THE OPERATION COMMITTEE.
A FEW MEETINGS AGO, YOU HAVE ARE A MONTHLY REFERENDUM, UH, FIVE 19 FINANCIAL SUMMARY REPORT.
UH, YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, ON SLIDE 37, THE REFERENDUM PROJECT CONTINGENCY LOG.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR LAST USE OF PROGRAM LEVEL CONTINGENCY TOOK PLACE IN APRIL.
SO WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS NEXT WEEK AT THE BOARD MEETING ON TUESDAY, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WOULD HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT USING CONTINGENCIES.
COULD YOU QUESTION PROGRAM LEVEL CONTINUANCE BECAUSE THAT SET, I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROJECT CONTINUING SAVINGS PROGRAM, BUT THE KIND OF PROGRAM IT'S A COMPILATION OF INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
IT'S NOT SEPARATE AMOUNT TO HELP DIFFERENTIATE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIVE 19 REPORT UP TOP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A REFERENCE TO CONTINGENCY.
I REFER TO THAT AS THE PROGRAM LEVEL, THAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
SO THAT ON A PROJECT LEVEL, IF IT NEEDED IT IT'S, YOU ARE CORRECT INSIDE OF EACH OF OUR GMPS THAT ARE AWARDED AND WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY.
AND THEN ON A FEW OTHER LARGER PROJECTS, YOU MAY, YOU ALSO MAYBE SEE A ADDITIONAL LINE ITEM FOR CONTINGENCY.
THE ONLY THING I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR, WE DON'T HAVE TWO SEPARATE ONES, JUST SORT OF A COMPILATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL SCIENCE, RIGHT? MORE OR LESS WITHIN REGIONS.
THE, THE, THE LARGER ONE THAT I REFERRED TO AS PROGRAM LEVEL WAS BASICALLY ARRIVED AT, BY TAKING A PRORATED PERCENTAGE OFF OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE PROJECTS AND FUNDING AND UP TOP.
SO THAT NOW A LOT OF PROJECTS HAVE COME IN UNDER BUDGET, ON SCHEDULE, BUT AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE SOME, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT BUCKET OF GOTCHA.
AND SLIDE 39 ROBIN, UH, CASHFLOW PROJECTIONS.
UM, LAST MONTH YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE DISTRICT PROCEDURE AT THE END OF FISCAL YEARS AND HOW ACCRUAL OF, UH, PAYMENTS WOULD BE TAKING PLACE.
UH, THE NOTE THERE AT THE BOTTOM ADDRESSES THAT, UH, IN THE MONTH OF JULY, WE'VE HAD INVOICE THAT CAME IN, THAT WAS FOR SERVICES THAT COULD PLACE TECHNICALLY AT THE END OF LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO THOSE GOT POSTED AT $2,960,000.
IT'S CHANGED TO THE JULY FIGURE.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE DEVIATION OF THE FORECAST, A FIGURE VERSUS ACTUALS.
UH, WE RECOGNIZE THIS, THIS IS PART OF THE RESULT OF LIKE ROBERT SMALLS, INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY, NOT STARTING THIS SUMMER AND HAVING TO BE POSTPONED BECAUSE OF, UH, CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE SHARED THERE.
BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PLAYS RIGHT INTO OUR MID PROGRAM RESET CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMING UP.
UH, I'LL DO SLIDE 41, TAKE YOUR HEARD EARLIER DURING THE ROBERT SMALLS, WE WILL BE GOING BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO COORDINATE A
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OUTRAGE, BRINGING THEM UP TO SPEED FULLY ON DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AS WELL AS THE SCHEDULE SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.AND I GUESS BEFORE I PAUSE, I'D LIKE TO DO A HANDOUT.
THIS IS A SPREADSHEET THAT WAS REQUESTED BY MS.
UH, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A AMENDMENT TRACKING LOG.
THERE'S TWO COPIES ON THAT SIDE.
AND THEN, UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS A GREAT LITTLE TOOL BECAUSE WHEN YOU ASKED EARLIER, HOW MUCH WAS THE PAINTING THAT WE DID AT THE CORRIDOR, UH, ROBERT SMALLS, I WAS ABLE TO GO TO ROBERT SMALLS SHAPE AND POP IT OFF AND SEE THAT IT WAS THE BIGGER THAT I CHAIR, AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS ALIVE.
YOU'LL SEE, ON THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE LABELED IT, A WORKING GRAPH BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO GET INFORMATION ADDED TO IT.
AND THIS DATA THAT I'VE JUST, UH, DISTRIBUTED IS REFLECTIVE OF AMENDMENTS, UH, EXECUTED, UH, AND, UH, PROCESSED THROUGH THE END OF JULY.
UH, SO GOING FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE CAN SHARE THE SAME UPDATED SPREADSHEET.
AND I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, AND I ALWAYS TRY TO IMPROVE UPON SOMETHING AND DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE EFFICIENT TO GO BACK AND TRY TO ADD IT TO ALL OF THESE.
YOU SEE HOW MANY THERE ARE, BUT GOING FORWARD, WE'VE ALREADY HAD INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS FROM THE STAFF PREPARING THIS, THAT AS WE WRITE AN AMENDMENT, LET'S PUT A COMPLETION DATE COLUMN IN, SO THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP EVERYBODY AS WELL.
JUST TRYING TO ANTICIPATE HOW THIS TOOL COULD POSSIBLY BE USED.
THIS IS GREAT, BUT THIS IN A METRONIC FORM SO THAT I CAN EVEN, IT'S BEEN DELIVERED INTO FOUR DOCUMENTS THIS AFTERNOON, LIKE PROVIDED IT MOLLY, AND I THINK SHE DID LOAD IT.
I ASKED WE WERE DOING FINAL LITTLE EDITS UP UNTIL, UH, EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, BUT YOU BET.
UH, SO I GUESS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PORTION, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MATERIAL SO FAR? I THINK I COVERED THEM AS WE WENT, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP RIGHT ON INTO THE MINT PROGRAM, RESET CONVERSATION, UM, SLIDE 43, UH, FOR THOSE THAT CAN THE CLOCK MEETING LAST WEEK THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BLOCK MEMBERS AS WELL.
AND BASICALLY A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND WOULD HELP.
WE ARE TECHNICALLY UPON HOW YOU ANALYZE IT ROUGHLY HALF WEEK BUILDING PROGRAM.
YOU HEARD ME MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WHEN WE KICK UP TO THE AWARD NEXT WEEK, UH, ROBERT SMALLS, HOW THAT GOAL, UM, UH, TO A HIGHER FIGURE.
UH, BUT THE, UH, KEY IS IS THAT WITH ALL OF THE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS, LIKE 44 ROBIN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COVID PANDEMIC, DISRUPTING MATERIALS, SUPPLY CHAINS, AVAILABILITY, INCREASED MATERIAL, LEAD TIMES, OUR CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS, THE, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAD BEEN PUT ONTO THE BACK BURNER, NOT OUR WAR, BUT JUST WORK IN THIS REGION THAT HAS COME OFF THE BACK BURNER.
IT'S HARD TO FIND RESOURCES TO MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD.
AND IF YOU DO, THEY'RE COMING AT A HIGHER PREMIUM, UH, AND WITH THOSE HIGHER PREMIUMS SORT OF BRINGS US TO OUR GOALS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED ON, ON SLIDE 45.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING THIS MONTH, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE HOW CAN WE FINISH THE REMAINING WORK IN THIS REFERENDUM WITHIN THE AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP RECALCULATED AS WELL AS SCHEDULES AND UNDER THE SCHEDULES, AS PART OF OUR LESSONS LEARNED APPLYING THAT WOULD, WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS AS DESIGNERS.
WE'VE GIVEN THEM A WOOL MORE TIME ON THE FRONT SIDE TO GET THE DESIGNS IN GOOD, GOOD ORDER.
LIKEWISE, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS THAT ARE BUILDING THIS WORK, THEY WOULD BENEFIT AS WELL.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE BUDGETS AND SCHEDULES, AND WE FORESEE THAT WE WILL FIND SOME CHALLENGES, BUT OUR GOAL WILL BE TO BRING SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE CHALLENGES.
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UH, SO WITH THAT, THAT'S SORT OF OUR GOALS FOR THIS MID PROGRAM AND TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE APPROACH.NOW, THE APPROACH WE SEE SORT OF BEING BROKEN DOWN INTO CATEGORIES, UH, WHERE WE WANT TO USE A RISK PROFILE TO HELP DELINEATE IT.
WE HAVE A HIGH RISK, MEDIUM RISK AND A LOW, AND WHAT'S IN HIGH RISK.
WELL, WE TALKED A LITTLE EARLIER ABOUT THE COMMITMENT OF GETTING THE SCL ESTIMATE FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND, MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THAT'S DUE THIS FRIDAY, THIS FRIDAY, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN IT.
SO WE WANT TO SEE HOW THAT PROJECT IS WORK LOOKING AS WELL.
AS YOU KNOW, WE RAN INTO BUDGET CONCERNS ONCE WE HAD FULLY DEFINED THE TECHNOLOGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE STUFFS, WE'VE HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSION SET THE VARIOUS MEETINGS TO ADDRESS THAT ON A LOWER RISK OF FALLING INTO THE MEDIUM.
WE PUT ROBERT SMALLS INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY IN THERE.
AND A LOT OF THAT IS JUST BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, WE, WE, WE KNOW WHERE THE GMP IS COMING AND WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO GET TO THE CROSS.
BUT WE DO SEE ALSO THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT STILL NEED TO BE ANALYZED SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, A LARGER ATHLETICS, UH, PROJECTS OR THE CAGE, UH, BUILDING, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT A MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
WE WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE LARGER WORKS THAT REMAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, UH, HAVE BEEN PROPERLY ADDRESSED.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO A LOWER RISK, YOU KNOW, PLAYGROUNDS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
THERE, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MARKET THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, WE'LL HAVE TO SORT OF TREAT THE PLAYGROUND PROJECTS WHERE THIS IS THE BIKES WE HAVE, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THOSE FUNDS? AND BY SETTING THAT APPROACH MITIGATES THE RISK ON THOSE PLAYGROUNDS, UM, TO BE A LOW, THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY RISK? WHAT ARE WE TALKING RISK? THE RISK IS NOW WE'D HAVE A BUDGET RIGHT NOW, IS THAT BUDGET, WOULD IT BE ADEQUATE FOR THE MARKET CONDITIONS FOR THE SCOPE THAT YOU HAVE TO DELIVER? SO WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS ANALYZE THOSE COMPONENTS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH WHAT FUNDS REMAIN AND THE TIME THAT REMAINS AND TO SORT OF PLAY INTO THAT UNDER THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE EVALUATIONS, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH WORK FROM OUR YEAR ONE AND EARLY YEAR TWO PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO ARRIVE AT SOME CURRENT COST PER SQUARE FOOT FIGURES, AS WELL AS ANALYZING IT ON A COST FOR TEACHING SPACE, BY HAVING THOSE TWO, UM, ANALYSIS POINTS, WE'LL USE THEM AS A COST MODEL FOR THE REMAINING WORK AND BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THE REMAINING PROJECTS TO SEE USING THE MORE RECENT INFORMATION AND MODELING IT.
HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE BUDGET? SO THAT ONCE AGAIN, WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS HOLISTICALLY AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REMAINING PIECES CAN BE DONE.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT MEANS HIGH RISK IS AT A HIGH RISK OF HAVING EXTENSIVE VALUE, IT'S HIGH RISK BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND THE TYPE OF STUFF MORE OR LESS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS WILL ALLOW US THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT WILL PROBABLY IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE, WHERE THOSE PRESSURE POINTS COULD BE.
AND OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO GET AHEAD OF IT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DESIGN SOMETHING ONLY TO FIND, OH, NOW WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH AN EXERCISE OF, UH, COST REDUCTIONS AND TRY TO FILL OUT ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT.
UM, WE TALKED ALSO ABOUT ROBERT SMALLS AND THE MEDIUM RESCUE.
YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE EARLY SHIELD PACKAGE.
YOU ALSO HEARD ME TALK ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT'S COMING FORWARD, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE BOARD INPUT ON THE MULTIPURPOSE.
YOU HEARD ALSO ABOUT HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THE ATHLETIC BILLS AS A PITCH SESSION.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, UH, PART OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, UH, AND, UH, THE SLIDE 47 LET'S STOP THERE UNDER ATHLETIC, UH, PROJECTS IS IMPORTANT.
WE RECOGNIZE IT THAT WE MAINTAIN QUALITY, UH, FROM CAMPUS TO CAMPUS.
SO, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT WHEN YOU'VE DONE A LOOK AT THE SCOPES AND WHAT BUDGETS ARE AND WHAT CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS ARE, SO WE CAN PROPERLY ALIGN THOSE.
YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK PLAYGROUNDS ARE READY, UM, AND SET SAFETY, SECURITY, UH, MOST OF THAT,
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UH, LIKEWISE BE ALIGNED SCOPE AND BUDGET, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE CONTINGENCY PROGRAM LEVEL THAT YOU HEARD ME TRY TO EXPLAIN AS WELL AS THE PROJECT LEVEL, UH, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR PROJECTS.ONCE WE GET TO THE CLOSE OUT STAGE, LIKE YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT IT AND THEY RIVER, WE SHOULD BE BRINGING BACK FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO PUT BACK INTO CONTINGENT TO SAY, AND, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT EACH, UH, EACH GMP THAT WE AWARD AS A 5% CONTINGENCY IN IT, WE ARE SEEING MOST OF THOSE NOT UTILIZING HALF OF THAT AMOUNT.
SO WE'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC CURRENTLY THAT THOSE, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY WHEN THEY CLOSE OUT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RETURN FUNDS.
AND THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE MODEL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM RESET.
WE DO HAVE A SCHEDULE, UM, ON SLIDES.
SO, BUT BASICALLY, AS I UNDERSTOOD, THIS IS JUST SORT OF A PRELIMINARY LOOK AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK.
THAT'S PART OF THE SCHEDULE PIECE RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, LAST WEEK WE SHARED THIS INFORMATION WITH BOC AND RECEIVE INPUT FROM THEM.
UH, I THOUGHT THAT THEIR INPUT WAS THAT THEY VIEW THIS AS A FAVORABLE EXERCISE PERFORM AND VARY AS WELL.
WE'RE HERE TODAY, DISCUSSING IT, UH, IN FRONT OF THE OPERATION COMMITTEE.
AND WHEN, BECAUSE OF HOW WE BRING INFORMATION FROM THIS MINI TO FULL BOARD, THIS WOULD BE PLEASURE OF THE OPERATION COMMITTEE IS TO DO THIS AT THE FULL BOARD NEXT TUESDAY.
I'LL BE READY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
UH, WE ARE WORKING ON IT AS WE SPEAK.
UH, WE WILL BE BRINGING A PRELIMINARY RESET REPORT FOR THE CLOCK.
UH, WE WANT TO BRING THE FULL RESET TO THE OPERATION COMMITTEE AND FIRST, SO IT'S A GOOD THING TO LET THEM KNOW HOW THINGS ARE SHAPING UP, BUT WE THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT, UH, OUR CLIENT, THE BOARD, UH, RECEIVES THIS INFORMATION, UH, AND HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING SHARED.
SO WITH THAT, UM, SAY THAT THIS CONCLUDES THE PROGRAM RESET, BE GLAD OPENING UP QUESTIONS.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS ON PAGE 47 AND, UH, UNDER ATHLETIC PROJECTS, YOU SAY MAINTAIN QUALITY AND WORK WITH SCHOOLS TO ALIGN THE SCOPE OF THE BUDGET.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ALSO IN PLAYGROUNDS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, UM, THE MAINTAIN OF QUALITY, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE DON'T SEE THAT ONE SCHOOL HAS A PLAYGROUND BECAUSE THEY, WE FIRST HAD IT BECAUSE I GOT THE MONEY FIRST AND THEIR PLAYGROUNDS.
IT'S NOT THE PLAYGROUND MONEY COMING OUT OF THE REFERENDUM.
WE HAVE BUDGETS FOR THOSE AND I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK, BUT NONE COME TO MIND THAT WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THE PLAYGROUND, EACH OF THE REMAINING PROJECTS THAT STILL HAVE LAY GROUNDWORK TO COME FORWARD.
THEY HAVE INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS AS WELL, JUST LIKE THE EARLIER PROJECTS AND WHAT OUR GOAL WOULD BE IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY SET IT SO THAT YOU STAY WITHIN YOUR FUNDS.
LIKE THE OTHER EARLIER PROJECTS DID, YOU CAN SEE SOME DIFFERENCES FROM SITE TO SITE.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE I SAID, WITH YOU EXPLAINING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ALREADY IS THE PLAN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WAS AGREED UPON.
THAT'S NOT KIND OF HOW I WAS READING THIS, SO I THINK WE'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT IT.
THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE PROVIDED.
THERE'S A HEALTHY DISCUSSION TODAY.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO AS ALWAYS, WE APPRECIATE, RIGHT.
SAME ON OUR AGENDA IS JUST AN EXPLORATORY DISCUSSION ON CYBER BETTING.
SO MS. WALTON HAS JOINED US AND, UM, THIS WAS AN IDEA THAT MS. BOATRIGHT, UM, BROUGHT OUT THE OTHER ONE OR SOMETHING CAN.
SO WHAT IF WE PUT IT ON THE SCHEDULE TONIGHT, REALLY CHILLING, JUST TO HAVE, JUST TO DISCUSS IT, UH, WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WHAT MIGHT YOU BE LOOKING FOR, UM, UH, MS. BELT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU PARKED IT UP AND BRING IT UP,
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WE JUST WEREN'T SURE.IT'S I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT YEAH, WE HAD, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WHAT IS IT? THE BOARD, WHAT DO WE, SINCE WE BROUGHT IT TO THE COMMITTEE LEVEL SAYING, HEY, LET'S KIND OF FLESH IT OUT FOR YOU HERE.
LET'S TALK TO MS. WALTON ABOUT WHAT OUR PROCESSES ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE WE THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD FIT INTO THE PROCESS.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR HAVE MISS FAULT AND JUST KIND OF SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS HOW WE JUST TO START.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST OR DO YOU WANT ME TO, WELL, SURE.
UM, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DO, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HIM, LEAVE ME, I BELIEVE WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT, ALL OF THIS IN FESTUS.
AND FROM THAT APPLICATION, WE GET QUESTIONS ASKED AFTER THAT IS DONE.
IF THAT CAN PASS IT UP, JUST IN GENERAL, ARE THESE THINGS IN PLACE QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION IN PASSIVE, AND THEN ONCE THAT IS DONE, THEY SELECT INTO, WILL THIS PERSON FIT BASED ON EXPERIENCE BASED ON THE GRAPHICS, CNC BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE AFTER THE INTERVIEW STUFF AND HIRING ENGINE MAKES CORRECT.
THAT IS WHEN WE DO EAT INTO THE APPLICANT AFTER IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED.
YES, BECAUSE WE CANNOT RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS, RIGHT? SOMEONE BACKGROUND CHECK THEN KICKS IN.
SO THEN THE NEXT STEP IS TO VERIFY THEIR CREDENTIALS ARE IMPORTANT.
AND TO DO THAT SET OF SOC CERTIFIED POSITION, ALL OF THEM CERTIFIED POSITIONS, AREN'T THERE AT STATE LEVEL AS WELL TO RECEIVE CERTIFICATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO, FDA, REALLY ALL DENTISTS HAVE A STATE PARK SUCH A BIT.
THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP.
AND THAT IS TO GO TO THE CLEARING HOUSE, WHICH STILL WANTS ALL TEACHING CERTIFICATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING EVER COMES UP ON A SPECIFIC CERTIFICATE THAT HAS OTHER ETHICAL THE LAW, IT COMES UP ON THAT.
SO ONCE THAT IS DONE, THEN WE MOVE THAT OUT.
SO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT WE DO SPACE STRICTLY ON WHAT, THIS IS, WHAT WE DO HAS AN EFFECT.
CAN I JUST ASK THE QUESTIONS PLEASE? YES.
SO WHEN YOU DO NEED A BACKGROUND CHECK AND I SOUND LIKE IT'S A NASDAQ CLOSE TO THAT, ARE THERE THINGS THAT COME UP THAT ARE NOT DISCLOSED FINE, A WARRANT, A QUESTION OR FURTHER INVESTIGATION OR ANOTHER CONVERSATION? OR IS THIS BASICALLY PERSON'S OKAY.
AND THERE'S DISQUALIFYING TO THIS.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GRAY AREAS RIGHT HERE.
YOU'VE HAD YOUR CERTIFICATE VOTE AND IT TELLS US WHY YOUR VOTE.
AND IT ALSO TELLS US IF YOUR CERTIFICATE HAS BEEN RENEWED, SAVE IT.
BUT WE TEND TO LAND ON THE SIDE OF IF YOUR CERTIFICATE HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED.
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CAUSE THAT'S RIGHT.IS THERE ANY WAY IN THIS PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR AN ADDITIONAL VETTING? SO ONCE THE PUBLIC KNOWS ABOUT A HIRE AND YOU DO A GOOGLE SEARCH, FACEBOOK SEARCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE THINGS HAVE BUBBLED UP ABOUT THIS NEW HIRE, UM, THAT THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN.
SO IS THERE ANY, UM, VALUE AND HAVING THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS TO AT LEAST BE AWARE, BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU DO MORE OF A LEGAL, SO YES.
LEGAL CHECK, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE JUST LIKE A GOOGLE SEARCH WOULD NOT BE WHICH THE PUBLIC DOES IMMEDIATELY.
SO I WAS SEARCHING SOME BASED ON WHAT WE CAN PULL THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE OTHERWISE, WE GIVE THEM TO ETHICAL BACKGROUNDS ETHICAL, AND WE TEND TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD TO HAVE REAL STRICT GUIDELINES AS TO WHAT YOU THINK IS CORRECT VERSUS WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT THINK RIGHT.
SO ALWAYS, SO ONE OF THE, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE DIDN'T DO THIS.
UM, AND, AND I THINK, UM, IF I KIND OF ASSUMED EVERYBODY DID, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE ENDED UP TO HIRING, DO SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY REQUIRE YOU TO TURN OVER YOUR PASSWORDS TO YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA? OBVIOUSLY THAT'D BE A HUGE VALIDATION, BUT DOING LIKE A PUBLIC, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA CHECK AS TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE POSTING.
SO RECENTLY FROM MY HOMETOWN, UM, THEY HIRED SOMEBODY WHO HAD POSTED SOME DEROGATORY RACIST AND, UM, WILL BE THE WORD ANTI-RELIGIOUS, UM, MEANS ON A SWEATER PAGE.
AND HE WAS FIRED BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T, IT DID GO INTO AN ETHIC, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT POST SOMETHING THAT IS ANTI LGBTQ, SOMEONE MIGHT POST SOMETHING THAT IS RACIST OR, UM, ANTI-SEMITIC BASED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS OUT THERE.
AND IF A PARENT WERE TO DO A, YOU KNOW, A SEARCH LIKE PARENTS HAVE DONE, LIKE I HAVEN'T DONE AND FIND THAT INFORMATION IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
AND THEN, SO THEY MARCHED IN, THEY DEMANDED THIS PERSON.
WE FIRED, THE PERSON WAS FIRED.
WHAT STRUCK ME AND THE REASON I THINK THAT THE DISTRICT NEEDS TO CONSIDER DOING SOME SORT OF PRELIMINARY SKETCHES THAT THE PARENT'S RESPONSE WAS WHY DIDN'T YOU GUYS CHECK WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T CHECK SOCIAL MEDIA.
WHY WOULD WE, WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS WAS ON HIS INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT OR HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, EITHER THAT'S INCOMPETENCE OR WE'RE LYING, WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU.
SO THAT'S CAUSE PARENTS, THAT'S HOW WE ARE COMMUNICATING.
THAT'S HOW OUR CHILDREN ARE COMMUNICATING IS THE TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, UH, TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM, SNAPCHAT DISCORD ONCE I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.
SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE ARE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN A BAD SPOT HERE, IF WE DON'T AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF PROGRAM TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE HAS POSTED SOMETHING THAT IS MASSIVELY OFFENSIVE TO ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE OUR STUDENTS.
AND IT'S SO PREVALENT RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I, I CAN'T ARGUE THAT, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE DID JUST A PRELIMINARY LOOK TO SEE IF THERE IS A COMPANY THAT DOES CYBER AND THERE'S NOT A COMPANY THAT DOES IT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS DO INCLUDING, BUT TO KEEP THAT BED JUST LIKE
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT UNLESS WE WANTED TO GET INTO TRAINING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE CAPABLE.
I THINK IF WE HAD LIKE PARAMETERS, LIKE WE SHOULD CHECK THESE 10 SOCIAL MEDIA.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD EVER CHECK EVERY POSSIBLE SECURE FOUR CHAN ACCOUNT UNDER AN ALIAS.
BUT IT'S MORE SORT OF THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WOULD BE THAT WE COULD DEVELOP SOME SORT OF STANDARD THAT JUST LIKE IN A REFERENCE CHECK, YOU JUST POP THAT VERSUS MAINTENANCE TO THOSE, WHATEVER WE DETERMINED TO BE KIND OF THE MAINSTREAM SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.
AND AT LEAST WE HAD THAT COVERED, BUT WE KNEW BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT MAY BE THAT THERE'S A MISSILE.
IN FACT, THERE HAVE BEEN MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
OR IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PERSON, WHY DID YOU POST THAT? AND THEY SAID, OH, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS IT BEFORE IT BECOMES, THAT IS TRUE.
AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR SOMEONE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH YOUR CURRENT BEST FACEBOOK'S
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POSTS AND SAY REVIVAL THINGS FOR THEM WHEN THAT COMES UP.SO CAN WE DO SOME SORT OF TRAINING ON, OF COURSE WE GET THAT, WE'LL DO THE TRAINING EVERY YEAR.
SO I WANT TO THINK, YOU KNOW, A PARENT CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, LIKE LET'S SAY THEY FIND OUT THAT THEIR TEACHER POSTED SOMETHING HATEFUL, THAT THEY TAKE OFFENSE TO IT AND THEY BRING IT TO THE DISTRICT.
WE'VE HAD THE TRAINEE, BUT THE PERSON WHO POSTED BROKE THE RULES, YOU KNOW, OR THERE'S SOME SORT OF A PROCESS WHERE WE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT BROKE THE RULES OF THE TRAINING THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDABLE.
I THINK IT'S THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEAS.
WE BRING THESE PEOPLE INTO THE DISTRICT, WHAT SOCIAL MEDIA MIGHT BE COMING WITH THEM BECAUSE I WILL SAY THAT'S THE FIRST THING PARENTS DO IS CHECK THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA.
WELL, IF CERTAINLY THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO.
I WOULD VAPE THAT WE'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE.
SO HOW WE MADE THAT STEP, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, AS AN HR DEPARTMENT MAKE THAT STEP AND ADVICE.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING MORE THAT WE NEED TO REACH OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLAN.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, IF WE DON'T TAKE BROAD DIRECTION ON IT AT SOME POINT, THE EXPECTATION OF THE FAULT LINE, IS IT SURPRISED IF IT'S NOT GOOD? YOU KNOW, DEPENDS IF THEY'VE DONE BUSINESS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER HR PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DO HAVE THEY DO, THEY DO ANYTHING AND, UH, YEAH.
UM, AND JUST TO REACH OUT, I MEAN, I KNOW NOT NOW I KNOW, NOT NOW WITH WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS JUST SHOULD BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION OF LET'S LET'S GATHER SOME INFORMATION, LIKE YOU JUST SUGGESTED THAT ONE WAY TO DO IT IS TO GET A RECRUITING FIRM.
WELL, THERE'S GOTTA BE OTHER OPTIONS.
ANOTHER OPTION YOU SAID WAS PERHAPS HAVING SOMEONE IN-HOUSE AT THAT RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THIS HAS MANY DIMENSIONS TO, IT HAS A LEGAL DIMENSION, HAS AN ETHICS DIMENSION.
IT HAS A PRACTICALITY DIMENSION, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH, UM, PURSUING, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE EXPECTATION OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE NEED.
THERE WASN'T EVEN A GOOGLE SEARCH ON THIS PERSON SAYING, AND LOOK WHAT I SAID, FIVE MINUTES AND LOOK WHAT I FOUND.
UM, I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE EXPLORING, WELL, I DO KNOW THAT HAVE IN-HOUSE INVESTIGATORS THAT DO OR CHECK REFERENCES, CHECK LETTERS WE'LL USE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S NOT LIKE YOU PUT INVESTIGATORS TOGETHER, TOTALLY SEPARATE IN ART FROM WHAT WE DO IN HR.
SO YOU HAVE 500 PEOPLE, THEY GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
MAYBE HAND OFF TO HR DEPARTMENT, IT'S MORE IN PARTNERSHIP OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY OR OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE EXPECTING AND WHAT, WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AND WHAT MAYBE WE CAN DO TO HEAD OFF.
I MEAN, A BUNCH OF ASIAN PARENTS AT A BOARD MEETING AND COPS BEING CALLED.
SO, UM, MAYBE AT A FUTURE TIME AFTER EVERYBODY HAS A BREATH, YOU CAN TAKE A BREATH.
MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME OUTRAGEOUS, SOME OF THE OTHER HR DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE AND JUST ASK IF THEY, HOW THEY HANDLE IT.
UM, ARE WE ASKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE OR ARE WE FOCUSING ON ADMINISTRATIVE EMPLOYEES? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CONVERSATION'S ABOUT.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT? WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, I THINK IF WE DID IT WITH EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE, IT BECOMES QUITE CUMBERSOME, BUT THEN I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES THAT WORK ONE-ON-ONE WITH STUDENTS AND MAY, UH, MANY HAVE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPART THEIR VIEWPOINTS OR THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT PARTICULAR SUBJECTS MAY BE
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ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LBGTQ OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WOULD, UH, NOT NECESSARILY BE APPROPRIATE.AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAW THEM ESPOUSING THEM, THOSE THINGS ON FACEBOOK, UH, I ALSO THINK THAT PERHAPS, UM, SOME LEVELS OF EMPLOYEES ARE MORE LIKELY TO DO THAT.
I THINK IT'S A BIG CAN OF WORMS. I THINK THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULDN'T BE OPEN, BUT I THINK IT'S A BIG CAN OF WORMS, MR. SMITH, UH, TO SOME DEGREE I WILL AGREE WITH MRS. ROBOT.
AND, BUT ALSO, UM, MY, MY, UH, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WILL BE, WILL BE, WELL, WHAT WILL BE THE GRAY AREA? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT ARE GOING INTO PEOPLES.
UH, THAT WOULD JUST THAT WE JUST DON'T GO DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE, YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE ABOUT, UM, WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE SPEECH, RIGHT? LIKE, OR WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR? IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD THINK WE HAVE AN AR OR A SOMETHING THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT, UH, HATE SPEECH HATE SPEECH, OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SORT OF LIMITATIONS ON AN EMPLOYEE, WHAT AN EMPLOYEE CAN DO.
THAT, THAT WILL BE COVERED SEVERAL PLACES.
IT WOULD BE COVERED IN THE ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY AS WELL.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE AR I THINK I HAVE THE AUP ON THE THING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A STARTING POINT, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT DO WE ALREADY SAY? AND THEN ALL WE'RE REALLY SAYING IS TAKE, WHEN YOU HIRE SOMEONE, TAKE OUR POLICY, OUR AR AS TO WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE SPEECH AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO VIOLATIONS BEFORE A PERSON COMES IN.
AND THEN EVEN IF SOMEONE IS UPSET ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS POSTED A POLITICAL, I MEAN, I THINK THE POLITICS IS THE BIG THING RIGHT NOW.
CAUSE THERE'S JUST, AND THAT'S WHAT THE EXAMPLE I GAVE.
IT WAS POLITICAL MEATS THAT WERE PRETTY AWFUL.
UM, BUT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FUNNY.
SO, YOU KNOW, TAKING THEM AND SAY, OKAY, WE FOUND THIS ON YOUR TWITTER ACCOUNT.
AND THIS IS A VIOLATION OF OUR AR IN OUR, OUR POLICY ON WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, WHY DO WE HAVE, DOES IT, DOES IT SAY IN OUR POLICY ABOUT WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE SPEECH, WHAT THE ENFORCEMENT, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC, YOU CANNOT SAY AS, AS YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS, MORE ACTIVITY, THAT EXPECTATIONS STANDARD CONDOM, BUT WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY SAY, DO NOT USE THESE WORDS.
SO I THINK YOU CAN DO ANYTHING.
SO THIS UNDERSTOOD, AND WE'VE GOT TO TAKE SOME KIND OF CORRECTIVE ACTION.
IT HAS TO BE PUMPED, SORRY, FIRST OF ALL, THERE, YOU'VE SEEN THE DISTRICT'S DEVICE TO MAKE OH.
OR INAPPROPRIATE, BUT IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING THEM PERSONAL FACEBOOK OR TWITTER ACCOUNT, AND THEY FEEL THAT YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE IS A LINE.
BUT, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I WOULD SIT HERE AND TELL YOU WHAT THE LINE IS.
I KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S A LINE BECAUSE WE HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE A BASKETBALL TEAM MADE A VERY OFFENSIVE POSTS.
AND IF IT HAD BEEN A TEACHER, I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME SORT OF DISCIPLINARY ACTION.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LINE SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CENSOR PEOPLE'S POLITICAL BELIEFS.
BUT I THINK THAT WHAT I SEE RIGHT NOW ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, THERE'S SOME AWFUL, AWFUL STUFF.
AND I DON'T, I WOULD HATE TO SEE MY, UH, MY CHILD'S TEACHER SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I WILL SAY THAT AS A PARENT, IF I WERE TO GO ON MY TEACHER, SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT, MY SON'S TEACHER, AND FIND OUT THAT THEY HAD THIS VIEWPOINT, I WOULD BRING THAT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND BE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I AM TRUSTING YOU WITH THE CARE AND CONCERN OF SECOND GRADERS.
AND SO, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, BUT I THINK THERE IS A LINE BECAUSE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT AND SOMEONE SAY, YOU KNOW, VOTING FOR PARTICULAR, I VOTED FOR THIS CANDIDATE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A POINT AT WHICH WE WOULD SAY, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR, AND THIS GOES BEYOND NEW HIRES.
THE THING IS WHEN WE ANNOUNCED A NEW HIRE SESSION, ILLUSTRATION, FIRST
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THING, THE COMMUNITY DOES IS CHECK THE FACEBOOK PAGE.AND THEN IT'S LIKE, UM, HOW DID YOU GUYS NOT KNOW THIS? HOW COULD YOU HAVE NOT DONE? SO, SO DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT STEP? I THINK WHAT I'VE, WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND IS THAT WE REVIEW THOSE ARS, THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CONSIDER ACCEPTABLE AND SEE MAYBE WHERE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE A POLICY AT YARD STICK THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IN TERMS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, BECAUSE WE ALREADY ARE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE THESE ARS, WE'RE JUST EXPANDING IT INTO SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO ARE YOU, I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU DO NOT HAVE SUCH TALKS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DISCOURAGED.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT THING.
WELL, UM, AND ALSO TOO, I THINK THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PARTS TO THIS ONE, THE NEW HIRES, AND THEN ONE OF THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES AND TO TACKLE THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, SO CAUSE I THINK WE KIND OF GOT BLENDED HERE, IN MY OPINION, THIS STARTED OUT AS A, AS A CONVERSATION.
UM, UNTIL MAYBE WE COULD JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE SEPARATELY.
MAYBE WE GET MS. CARTLEDGE AT LOOK AT THE ARS, FOR SURE.
JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S A BASIS FOR A NEW BUYER WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
I HAVE MS. CARTLIDGE JOIN US TO SAY, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE GETTING OURSELVES INTO? WHAT, WHAT IF WE HAVE THIS ROAD? THIS WAS, UM, SO IT KIND OF WENT DOWN THAT WAY.
MAYBE NOT FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE NEXT ONE.
AND IT JUST KIND OF LET US THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
LET'S DO A LITTLE BIT INTO IT.
WOULD THAT BE AMENABLE TO YOU MS. CARTILAGE? YES.
AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WANT TO CHECK WITH THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION, OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND DO SOME WESTLAW RESEARCH FOR US AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AND I'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, NOT FOR SEPTEMBER, BUT MAYBE OCTOBER, OCTOBER TIMEFRAME JUST NOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE WELL CLOSEST TO THE SLED RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY ALSO AR IS AR AR IS BASICALLY JUST TOLD BY THE BOARD, BUT BASICALLY THE BOARD IS NOT OVER THE ARS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO IT'S JUST MORE OF AN INFORMATIVE, UH, UH, INSTRUMENT.
AND THEY'RE BROUGHT TO US FOR INFORMATION, BUT I DO NOT KNOW ONE STAFF MEMBER THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS WE MIGHT HAVE.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN VERY OPEN TO THAT.
SO, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT WITHIN SAYING THAT TO ME, UNDERSTANDING WHAT MRS BOATWRIGHT IS SAYING IS THAT SHE WANTS TO LOOK AT ARS AND, AND SEE WHAT SHE KNOWS SHE'S AGREEING WITH IT, OR POSSIBLY THAT MAY NEED TO BE SOMETHING ADDED.
THEN I THINK, I THINK SHE'S, SHE'S TALKING MORE OF AN OLD E OF SOMETHING OF A BOARD POLICY THAT, WHICH WILL DIRECT STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION TO OFF UNTIL FOLLOW VERSUS, UH, VERSUS SAYING IN AR FIRSTLY IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE BOARD.
IT WOULD BE MORE OF A BOARD, UH, PUSH, UH, TARGET MARKET OF WHAT YOU COULD AND CANNOT DO VERSUS A VERSUS AN AR.
AND THAT, THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
SHE CAN CLEAR FROM, SHE CAN CLARIFY THAT, BUT I, THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I JUST WAS TRYING TO INFORM MYSELF AS TO WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IN THIS AREA.
WELL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT FINISHED AS WELL.
SO YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO BE INFORMED OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE ALREADY.
THAT WAS ONE BECAUSE I KNEW, I THOUGHT IT WAS BORING TO SAY THAT THE LAST ONE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, ANYWAYS, UH, ALSO, UH, I WAS ALSO GONNA BRING UP THE TIME.
SO THAT'S WHY LET'S, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING DOWN THE ROAD WITH THIS.
UM, AND SO LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM, WHICH IS AN UPDATE ON THE CURRENT EMPLOYMENT VACANCIES FOR ALL POSITIONS.
SO MISS, UH, WALTON HAS PROVIDED US WITH THIS LIST.
UM, AND I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THE LAST BOARD, MAYBE THERE WERE 15, UH, CERTIFIED
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STAFF ASSISTANT POSITIONS AT RUMSFELD.AND THIS IS THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT PATIENT.
AND, UM, AS I ALWAYS SAY, THESE NUMBERS ARE FLUID, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UM, I HAVE AN UPDATE FROM NINE 30 THIS MORNING.
AND SINCE THAT WE'VE HAD TWO RESIGNATIONS.
SO THESE NUMBERS CHANGE, AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHEN I GAVE YOU THE 15 LAST WEEK, WHAT I GIVE YOU TODAY ARE NOT THE SAME 15 BECAUSE WE HIRED POSITIONS POSITION.
SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU? HERE IS I HAD THIS CREDIT.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE 10TH, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY.
THESE WERE THE VACANCIES AS OF YESTERDAY.
AND SINCE THEN, SINCE YESTERDAY, IF YOU WON'T LOOK AT ELEMENTARY OPENINGS, WE HAVE HIRED A FIRST GRADE TEACHER FOR PREDICT, BOOM.
WE HAVE HIRED A SCHOOL COUNSELOR FOR ROBERT SMALLS.
WE HAVE ART ARTS TEACHER FOR THIS ALLEN, THE, A GATEWAY TO TECHNOLOGY TEACHER FOR LADIES ALLEN.
WE HAVE HIRED, UM, AN INSTRUCTIONAL COACH FOR LADIES OUT.
AND WE'VE HAD A LITERACY TEACHER FOCUS OUT AS WELL AS A FIFTH GRADE TEACHER FOR RANCH.
SO AS I SAID, TWO RESIGNATIONS SINCE TWO O'CLOCK TODAY.
SO WHICH WOULD STILL BE RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU WOULD WORK THE SHIFTS.
IS IT TYPICAL TO HAVE RESIGNATIONS? DOES IT TIP, IS IT TYPICAL TO HAVE RESIGNATIONS LIKE TWO DAYS FOR SCHOOL STARTS YESTERDAY? YES.
AND IT RESIGNATIONS WE'VE GOTTEN RECENTLY IS MY LAST DAY WILL BE THE 15TH OR MY LAST DAY WILL BE 18.
SO WHAT WE DON'T DO AS A DISTRICT IS ASCENSION THE TEACHING CERTIFICATES FOR EACH THEIR CONTRACTS.
AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, BUT IT TAKES A BOARD VOTE TO SEND THIS TO THE STATE.
ONE GREENVILLE DOES NOT BAD ENOUGH.
THEY WILL TAKE YOUR CERTIFICATE CONTRACT.
WE AS A DISTRICT, ALWAYS SHY AWAY FROM THEM.
YOU JUST NEVER WANT TO DO, BUT IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WE'RE GOING TO BE HELPED IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WORK ETHIC.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, JUST, JUST SPEAK YOUR ETHICS JUST SO YOU DON'T LEAVE CLASS HIGH AND DRY.
MS. RABBI, UM, MS. WALTON, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO FIND OUT WHAT IF, UH, IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST FROM TALKING IN YOUR, YOUR, UH, GROUP, WHEN GREENVILLE STARTED TO DO THAT, DID IT DECREASE SIGNIFICANTLY? THE NUMBER OF LATE RESIGNATIONS FOR THEM? THEY DO.
JASMINE DOES IT ALSO, AND THEY DON'T.
WE JUST MET WITH CG THIS AFTERNOON, WHO WANTED TO COME OVER TO YOU FOR, SHE HAD SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH JASPER IN APRIL.
SHE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH US IN JULY AND WENT TO JASPER TO SAY, I WANT TO GET UP JUST FOR THE SAKE OF NOT GOING TO RELEASE YOU FROM YOUR CONTRACT.
ALL THIS, WE FIND A SUPERBOWL AND THEY DON'T ACTIVELY LOOK TO THE PLACE.
SO SHE HAD TO GO BACK TO JASPER AND TOLD US YESTERDAY THAT SHE LOOKED, SHE CAME DOWN ORIENTATION, SHE PICKED UP THE DEVICE.
AND YESTERDAY SHE SAID THAT UP TO SO AS DIRECTOR OF HR, IS THIS CHEAP, I'M SORRY, I THINK FOR TITLE, I'D PROBABLY JUST MAKE NOTE OF HR.
WHAT WOULD YOU, I MEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE? AND THAT'S, THAT WAS A, WAS THAT A BOARD DECISION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? WAS IT JUST OUR PRACTICE AND NEVER REALLY DISCUSSED THE BOARD? NEVER
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REALLY DESCENT NEVER REALLY SAID, UM, VOTED ON IT, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS GENERAL BOXES AND THAT'S BEEN YEARS AGO.I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR, UH, AT OUR OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
AND I THINK THAT WE, WE, WE, WE, WE TURNED IT DOWN.
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T AGREE UPON IT AT THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON LAST YEAR ON THAT SHOPPING, THE SAME STUFF, THIS, THIS SAME, UH, THE SAME COMPENSATION CAME UP WITHIN THE, ABOUT THE SAME TIME, LAST YEAR OF OPENING OF SCHOOLS.
AND I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH, WITH, UH, TAKING THIS TO, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. SMITH.
I'M YOU LIKE, DO YOU RECALL THAT CONVERSATION, MS. WALTON? I DO KNOW YOU'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SPECIFICALLY.
MS. CHRISTIAN, MARY, UM, STATING THE REASON WHY THAT HAS BEEN PRACTICE HAS BEEN THE, THE THOUGHT OF NOT WANTING SOMEONE TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM WHO DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE HOLDING THEM HOSTAGE.
SO THAT WAS THE PRACTICE YEARS AGO.
WHY THEY DID NOT DO IT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT SOMEONE IN THE CLASSROOM WHO REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THEM, UM, THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, WE MAYBE ADD TO A FUTURE TOPIC, UM, TO READ THIS AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT LET'S GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY MRS. WALTON, THAT I AM, YOU HAD AN AMAZINGLY DIFFICULT JOB.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD HOW HARD IT IS TO GET TEACHERS.
I THINK ALSO WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN THE STATE AND NATION, UM, AS FAR AS HIRING.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING I THINK IS TREMENDOUS IS I DON'T SEE A SINGLE VACANCY ON DIFFERENT NURSE KIND OF SCHOOL.
DON'T LOOK WITH THE TEACHER, GO AND LOOK FOR VACANCIES FOR CLASSIFIED STAFF.
I DID SEE A SCHOOL NURSE ONE HERE.
THERE'S ONE AT, YEAH, THERE'S THE, ARE THERE A COUPLE OF FIRST CLASS, FIVE STAFF WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A CLASS FIVE.
IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE AND CERTIFIED, BUT I STILL THINK THE MAJORITY OF OUR SKILL SET OF NURSES IS HUGE.
UM, AND I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU WHEN WE TALKED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE CAREER DEVELOPMENT FACILITATORS, WE DON'T HAVE ONE IN EVERY HIGH SCHOOL.
WE'VE HAD ADDED LADIES ON THE, AND MY CONCERN IS THIS.
SO I KNOW HILTON HEAD HIGH IS STILL SHARING WITH MAY RIVER, RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT WAS, UM, AND WHAT, WHEN, SO THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT REAL QUICK.
WHEN I, UH, JERRY HENDERSON NEEDED PRESENTATION.
AND SHE SAID FOR THIS YEAR, EVERY HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN CDN.
UM, AND THEN WHEN, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT THIS AND IT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, WHERE THAT ALL FALLS OUT.
UM, SO HE'S BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL NOT GET A SEAT.
MY QUESTION IS, LET'S SAY THAT'S THE CASE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN, A CDN, WHY DO WE HAVE THE TWO LARGEST HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY BY A FAIR AMOUNT, SHERRY, ONE PERSON AND OTHER SCHOOLS HAVE DEDICATED CDF.
IF YOU SOLD US ON THE BUDGET, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY NEW PROPOSED POSITIONS UNTIL AFTER THE BUDGET.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS WHEN JERRY HENDERSON PRESENTED THIS TO THE BOARD? HAS IT NOT BEEN IN THE BUDGET? IT'S IN THE BUDGET.
SO ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THEN WE TELL THE PRINCIPAL, YOUR CDF HAS BEEN APPROVED.
IT'S NOT JULY NOT LISTED RIGHT NOW.
AND HE SAYS HE DOESN'T HAVE, YES.
NO, BECAUSE I JUST LIKE TO FOLLOW UP.
SO DID I HEAR YOU SAY TO THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHAT KIND OF HIGH SCHOOL DOES NOT? I THINK ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS HIRED AND IT POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN USING TITLE ONE FUNDING, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT, I GUESS IT'D BE, I'M STILL LEARNING.
WE'LL GET DIFFERENT APPROVAL PROCESS.
BUT, UM, LADIES I'M IN THE MIDDLE, THERE ARE SOME IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, IF I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES I THOUGHT THE GUIDANCE COUNSELORS DID DOUBLE DUTY.
AND THEN I KNOW IN 20 22, 20 23,
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THAT SAME GUIDANCE PROPOSAL WANTS TO HAVE ONE IN EVERY MIDDLE SCHOOL.SO I KNOW THAT'S COLUMBIA UP AND COMING.
SO IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW LIKE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, UNLESS SOMEWHERE CHECK.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VACANCIES, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY THE CRAMPING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
AND IT'S PROBABLY, I WOULD ARGUE IS CLASSROOM TEACHERS, RIGHT? AND WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH DATA? SO IF THIS IS AS A MAN 30 THIS YEAR, UM, WE HAVE FIVE ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM VACANCIES, FIVE MIDDLE SCHOOL VACANCIES, TWO HIGH SCHOOL, WAIT, EXCUSE ME.
UM, THEN IF YOU ADDED THE SPECIAL SPECIALS LIKE ART INDIVIDUALS AS COACHES, WE HAVE 32 ROOMS. SO, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS AND 32 SCHOOLS, AND AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, 11 OF THE 32 SCHOOLS, UM, ABOVE THE AGE OF 18, THERE ARE EIGHT MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT ARE FULLY STAFFED.
A HIGH SCHOOLS ARE SIX STAFF ALTOGETHER.
THE NEXT QUESTION LONG-TERM SUBS ARE THOSE CLASSROOMS. I MEAN, I SUPPOSE STARTING MONDAY, SO WELL, THEY, THEY ESS AS A SYSTEM IS SET UP, SO PRINCIPALS CAN GO IN PLUS LONG TERM, CERTAIN CLUBS THEY'RE ALREADY GONE.
AND WE DO HAVE 35 PROFESSIONAL TEACHERS.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO FROM A BOARD MEMBER PERSPECTIVE IS WHAT CAN THE BOARD DO TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER TEACHERS? YEAH.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO SNUFF.
WE NEED TO GO HOME NOW, YOU KNOW, TOPICS THAT HAVE FOR DOWN ABOUT INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
I KNOW WHAT, YES, ALONE IS A BIG ISSUE FOR US.
OUR RETIREMENT FLIPS, UH, TURNED INTO ANYTHING.
OF COURSE, GIVE ME THAT SOME CLASSROOM TEACHERS, CLASSROOM TEACHERS, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE.
WE HAVE GEO-FENCING UM, WE HAVE KIND OF SCARS AND WE HAVE, UM, DROP IT.
IN FACT, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 30,000 BUCKS EVERY CHANCE.
AND SO IT HAS RESULTED IN SOME HUGE RESULTS JUST FOR HER RADIO.
I HAD TO SAY THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
UM, I KNOW OUR EFFICIENCY STUDY SAID THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT ALONE SHOULD HAVE 17 MORE POSITIONS.
SO WE BROUGHT IN A COUPLE OF SOMEBODY'S TELETECH POSITIONING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, IT'S DONE COULDN'T DO BEFORE IS GO THROUGH APPLITRACK ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS ACROSS EVERYONE VETTING THAT WE MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK THE CANDIDATES THAT WE'VE REVIEWED THEM HAVE BEEN GOOD.
UM, MR. AUDIT AGAIN, ROBIN, YOU ALL, I THINK WE HAVE A LIST, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TALKING ABOUT DATES.
SO THE SEPTEMBER 8TH OPERATION COMMITTEE MEETINGS SHOULD BE ACCEPTED FOR EIGHT.
THAT IS A WEDNESDAY AFTER WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING ON THAT WEDNESDAY.
SO DO YOU WANT TO START EARLIER? THAT'S NICE.
WHAT TIME DO YOU WANT TO START EARLIER ON AN EIGHT? LET'S SAY WE GIVE HER SOME, TWO HOURS AND GOD, AND THEN WHATEVER HE GOES INTO DONE.
TO ME THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME BECAUSE
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I KIND OF TIME THAT I PREPARE FOR MY MEETING.SO THAT WOULDN'T, THAT WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME.
I'M VERY INCONVENIENCED FOR ME.
SO WHAT WOULD BE CONVENIENT FOR YOU? MR. SMITH SOUNDED LIKE OUR FRONT DECK.
SO WHAT DIFFERENT DAY WOULD BE CONVENIENT FOR YOU? CAUSE WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSENSUS ON THIS, UM, PULL THE CALENDAR OUT.
YOU SAID IT WOULD BE THE 18TH.
IT WOULD BE THE, NO, IT SAY EIGHT SINGLE DIGIT, RIGHT? I'LL GIVE THE EIGHTH ON SEPTEMBER 8TH ON THAT MONDAY.
THEY W WE, WE HAVE THAT, UH, WE GO ON A KNIFE ON THAT THURSDAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SMITH, IF YOU WILL, THIS IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS, BUT IF WE DO IT BEFORE THE SECOND DAY, WOULD YOU NEED TO PREPARE OR WOULD YOU ALREADY BE PREPARED FROM TUESDAY? CAUSE THIS HAS THE CARRY OVER TODAY AND WE MAY NOT HOPEFULLY KNOCK ON WOOD.
WE'VE WOULDN'T HAVE, SO IT'S NOT BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING IT'S BEFORE THE CONTINGENCY, IF WE GO A SECOND DAY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KNOCK IT ALL OUT.
AND TWO DAYS BEFORE WE JUST MAKING HER UP REAL FAST, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE ZOOM SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS THE BILLBOARD THAT, UM, HAS BEEN PUT UP TRYING TO ATTRACT MORE TEACHERS.
SO YOU SEE THAT ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
SO LET'S JUST SMITH AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING TO THAT ONE ADJUST THEN FOR THE OVERFLOW DAY, IT MIGHT NOT EVEN HAPPEN.
SO WOULD THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR ASSESSMENT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE PREPARED FOR THE BOARD MEETING ON TUESDAY? I NEVER JUST WEDNESDAYS JUST TO CARRY OVER, RIGHT.
WELL, SHOULD WE START AT THREE O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAY, SO WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER EIGHT.
WE CAN AIM FOR THAT AND MAKE IT THAT I'LL MAKE IT, BUT, UM, NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I WILL BE A TEAM PLAYER.
SO SEPTEMBER 8TH AT THREE O'CLOCK.
AND THEN ALSO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND, UH, UH, RUN OUT, REMIND I COULD MEET TOO, THAT SOME PEOPLE ALSO DO LIKE TO, UH, ATTEND OUR MEETINGS.
SO WE, WE, SO WE DO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PARENTS AND OUR PARENTS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO GIVE THEM TIME TO GET OFF AND HAVE OUR MEETINGS LATER ON AFTERNOONS AS WELL.
I KNOW WE, WE, UH, UH, OUR PAST PRACTICES THAT THE BEANS HAVE BEEN OPENED IN THE AFTERNOON SO THAT WE COULD HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO LISTEN IN AND GIVE THE INPUT, EVEN THOUGH THE MEANS ARE THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT.
SO, UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MAKE IT A HABIT OF HAVING ALL OUR MEANS EARLY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BEEN PASSED FOR THE, UH, FOR THIS COMMITTEE.