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THIS IS THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING OF MONDAY, AUGUST 23RD.[1. CALL TO ORDER]
HAVE CALLED THIS TO ORDER.THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING, WHICH MEANS WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN PERSON, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE DESK.
BUT ALSO WE HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE ONLINE THAT WOULD BE, UH, COUNCILMAN DAWSON, LLEWELLYN, AND, UH, KELLAN.
SO WE DO CONSTITUTE A QUORUM TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS.
WOULD YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION CONDUCTED BY MR. RODMAN? GO AHEAD, SIR.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, IF YOU WOULD BOW WITH ME IN PRAYER, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE'RE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY CONTENTIOUS TIME AND THE TRANSITION IN AFGHANISTAN, UH, THERE'S MANY, MANY PEOPLE, AMERICANS AND OTHERS THAT ARE IN, UH, IN HARM'S WAY.
WE ASK FOR YOUR INTERVENTION AND FOR A WISDOM OF OUR LEADERS ON HOW TO BEST WORK THROUGH THIS BOARD.
WE'RE ALSO SEEING THE RE-EMERGENCE OF THE, UH, THE VIRUS.
AND, UH, WE ASKED THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE CONSCIOUS OF THIS.
AND WE ASKED FOR COMFORT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH A RECOVERY AND COMFORT FOR THOSE THAT, THAT ARE IN MAY LOSE FAMILY MEMBERS.
IN ORDER AS WE, UH, TURN TO, UH, OUR BUSINESS AT HAND, WE JUST TRUST THAT OUR DEALINGS, UH, WE'LL BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF ALL.
AND THAT WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU.
AND WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN NOTICE MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AS WE REVIEWED AT THE CAUCUS AGENDA,
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
UM, A CAUCUS MEETING AND WE REVIEW YES, MR. DAWSON.I LOST THE AUDIO THERE FOR A MINUTE.
WHERE ARE WE? UH, WHERE AT THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND WE'RE GOING TO BE AMENDING THAT.
DO YOU WISH TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT? UH, YES, SIR.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO AMEND IT, JOE.
I THINK I WOULD JUST PULL IT OUT ON MY, YEAH.
UM, I NEED AN EXCUSE MYSELF FOR MY ITEMS, MORE SMOKE WEED, JUST PULL IT AND THEN VOTE ON STUFF.
AND THEN I'LL RECUSE MYSELF DURING THE VOTE.
NOT A PROBLEM, WE CAN DO THAT.
AS I SAID, WE ARE GOING TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
SO I WOULD ASK A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE, TO AMENDED THE AGENDA AS FOLLOWS THE REMOVAL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA OR ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, 10, AND 11.
AND BECAUSE OF THE TYPO ITEM, NUMBER 16 SHOULD READ A ONE
SO I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? THAT WAS MOVED BY MR. DAWSON AS SECOND, PLEASE.
MS. HOWARD MAKES THE SECOND DULY MOTION.
AND SECOND FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE AMENDED AGENDA MOVING FOR AMENDING THE AGENDA.
SINCE THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE AGENDA IS NOW AMENDED, AND I WOULD LOOK FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
NO I DIDN'T, BUT I HAVE TO GO.
MR. SUMMERVILLE MADE THE MOTION.
MR. GLOVER MADE THE SECOND DULY MOTION.
DIDN'T SECOND IT AND DISCUSSION.
THE AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED AS AMENDED WITHOUT OBJECTION.
THEREFORE THE AGENDA IS APPROVED AS AMENDED.
WE ARE NOW AT THE ADMINISTRATOR'S
[5. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]
REPORT.WHAT SAY YOU? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE, UH, CITIZENS OF BUFORD COUNTY ARE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE, UH, AN EMPLOYEE FROM ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE DEPARTMENT.
SHE'S BEEN WITH US A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS, THREE WITH DSN.
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WITH THE, UH, OUTLAWED DRUG, UH, ABUSE DEPARTMENT.BUT, UH, IF YOU DO THAT MATH, THAT ADDS UP TO ABOUT 13.
SO I PROBABLY SHOULD NOT TRY TO ADD, BUT BETWEEN 10 AND 13 YEARS, UH, SHE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY.
AND SO SHE'S HAD QUITE A CAREER HERE.
SO SHE HAS A SUBSTANCE ABUSE USE COUNSELOR.
SHE WAS NOMINATED BY A PEER AND ULTIMATELY SELECTED FOR THE EMPLOYEE SPOTLIGHT AND THE NOMINATION READ AS FOLLOWS.
I DOMINATE MS. BROWN FOR BEING AN EARLY ADOPTER OF PEER SUPPORT.
AND FOR HER PROFESSIONALISM, SHE ROUTINELY CONSIDERS PEER SUPPORT SERVICES AS AN ENHANCEMENT TO TREATMENT FOR PATIENTS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO ARE STRUGGLING OR HAVE ISSUES COMMITTING TO TREATMENT.
AND MS. BROWN SEEMS TO GENUINELY CARE ABOUT THE WELLBEING OF HER PATIENTS IS EVIDENCED BY HER WILLINGNESS TO CONSIDER A BCA D A D SERVICES BEYOND THOSE.
SHE PROVIDES, SHE COMMUNICATES WITH OTHER STAFF IN A RESPECTFUL, TIMELY AND EFFECTIVE MANNER.
AND THAT'S PERSONALLY HELPED TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKE A VALUED MEMBER OF THE TEAM.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS ALL THE QUOTE FROM THE NOMINATION.
SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT HER IS THAT SHE LIKES ADVENTURE.
UH, IN AUGUST, SHE WENT ON A SIX MILE RAFTING TRIP ON THE GEORGIA RIVER WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF HER.
AND, UH, WE'RE ALL PLEASED TO REPORT THAT SHE DID SURVIVE, CONGRATULATIONS TO HER AND, UH, FOR GETTING OUT THERE AND DOING A LITTLE WHITEWATER RAFTING.
UH, ONE OF MY, WHEN I WAS MUCH YOUNGER, I DID THAT QUITE REGULARLY.
SO VERY, VERY PROUD OF HER FOR CLIMBING IN THAT BOAT.
UM, OUR SECOND EMPLOYEE IS AN EMPLOYEE FROM DISABILITY AND SPECIAL NEEDS, WANDA DOWNSTAIR OR AMAZ.
UH, SHE IS THE DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR QUALITY SHRIMPS COORDINATOR AND RESIDENTIAL DIRECTOR.
SHE HAS BEEN WITH, UH, DSM FOR 14 YEARS, UH, UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
MR. LOVE, HER DUTIES INCLUDE ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANAGERIAL RESPONSIBILITIES, QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND ASSESSMENTS, EVALUATION OF CONSUMER SERVICE NEEDS.
SO SHE DOES QUALITY ASSURANCE, RISK MANAGEMENT, STAFF, RECRUITMENT, TRAINING, AND DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT, AND PROGRAMMING.
SHE ASSISTS WITH THE PREPARATION MANAGEMENT AND MONITORING OF THE BUDGET.
SHE, UM, DOES SATISFACTION SURVEYS, COORDINATES THOSE AND EVALUATES THOSE, UH, FOR THE SERVICE TO RECIPIENT SAM, FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, AND SHE, UM, PURSUES, UH, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO MAINTAIN COMPETENCY AND REMAIN ABREAST OF INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND BEST PRACTICES.
AND FINALLY, SHE HELPS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND EXECUTION OF THE DISASTER PREPAREDNESS PLAN, WHICH IS A BIG THING A YEAR IN BUFORD COUNTY AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH CURRENTLY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE READY FOR A NATURAL DISASTER.
WANDA HAS WORKED IN THE HUMAN SERVICES FIELD FOR OVER 25 YEARS OF VARIOUS STATES, INCLUDING CALIFORNIA, VIRGINIA, TEXAS, NORTH CAROLINA, AND HAS TRAVELED WITH HER HUSBAND WHO WAS A CAREER MARINE AFTER SUPPORTING THREE DAUGHTERS TO OBTAIN COLLEGE DEGREES.
SHE HAS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF COMPLETING HER MASTER'S DEGREE IN COUNSELING AND PREPARING TO OBTAIN LICENSURE FOR SEVERAL STATES, ASSESSING SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS IN INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING.
MOST PROVIDERS STRUGGLE WITH THE COMMUNICATION ASPECT OF THERAPY WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL CHALLENGES.
SHE IS HOPEFUL THAT A COMBINATION OF EXPERIENCE AS A SPEECH PATHOLOGIST, COUPLED WITH THE COUNSELING TRAINING WILL ASSIST WITH THE DEVELOPING SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH WILL ASSIST WITH DEVELOPING SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE COEXISTING CHALLENGES OF INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES.
I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE HER ON OUR TEAM.
SHE SOUNDS LIKE A VERY RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS SELF MOTIVATED, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE OVER HER AND THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYEES AROUND THAT.
OH, AND THEN FINALLY THIS EVENING WITH OUR EMPLOYEE SPOT SPOTLIGHTS, AND I MAY BUTCHER THIS NAME.
I CAN
HE LIONS FIELDS FOR SOCCER, FLAG FOOTBALL, LACROSSE, SOFTBALL, AND BASEBALL.
AND NOW I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING IF I MAY HERE, MOM, MY AD LIVE A LITTLE BIT.
I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BECAUSE WHEN I GO OFF SCRIPT TO GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE, BUT I THINK YOU ALL, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY OUGHT TO REALIZE THAT THE LEAST VOTE, THE LEAST VISIBLE FOLKS IN OUR ORGANIZATION ARE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE ULTIMATELY
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THEY'RE THE MOST VISIBLE PEOPLE.PEOPLE GET TO SEE ME BECAUSE I'M ON CAMERA, BUT I DON'T REALLY MAKE BUFORD COUNTY LAW THE WAY BUFORD COUNTY LOOKS.
AND STEVE'S FOLKS HERE THAT HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, IN THESE LEAST VISIBLE ROLES THAT PROVIDE THE BIGGEST IMPACT, UH, TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE WORKFORCE.
AND I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SERVE WITH US AS LONG AS THEY DO IN THE ROLES THAT THEY PERFORM.
IT'S VERY VITAL TO THE HEALTH AND LIVABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
MONTE BONDI HAS A GO-TO EMPLOY FROM ALL FIELDS ON THE BUFORD SIDE, AND HE TAKES PRIDE IN THE PREPARATION OF BALL FIELDS.
ANYTIME WE EVER TURN THEM UP, MONTE IS THE FIRST ONE TO STEP UP AND ASKED TO BE SCHEDULED EVERY DAY FOR THE TOURNAMENT.
AND HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE FIELDS ARE RIGHT AND PERFECT FOR ANY VISUALS WE HAVE IN TOWN, WHICH KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WHAT I JUST SAID THERE BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT THEY'RE REALLY VISIBLE, UH, WITH THEIR WORK AND IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I'M GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO, TO, UH, ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO CALL THEM AND TO HEAR FROM YOU, UH, AS, I MEAN, I WANT YOU ALL TO HEAR FROM THEM FROM TIME TO TIME, FEEL FOOT IS GOING TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE FOOD SERVICE CONTRACT AND SOME CONTACT OR RENEWALS THAT YOU WILL HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT WILL BE AUDRA ANTONACCI FOR, UH, DOING THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT PROGRAM UPDATE, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK FOR TWO OTHER HOURS.
DID HE BEING SEPARATE AS A COUNCIL? UM, I WAS ASKED TO COME UP HERE AND BRIEF, THEY GO OVER SOME OF THE CONTRACTS AND ALSO THE RENEWAL CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR DIVISION.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THOSE REAL BRIEFLY WITH HIM.
FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE UP THERE IS OUR FOOD SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE DETENTION CENTER.
UM, THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAD IN PLACE HAD GONE THROUGH ITS CYCLE.
IT, IT MADE IT THROUGH FIVE YEARS AND THEN IT GOT PUT BACK OUT FOR IT.
AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S UP AS A NEW CONTRACT.
WE HAD THREE COMPANIES THAT PLACE A PROPOSAL, AND, UH, THEY PUT TOGETHER A TEAM FROM THE DETENTION CENTER TO GO TO THE PROPOSALS.
AND THEY'VE SELECTED TRYING TO MEET GROUP, UH, AS A NEW FOOD SERVICE CONTRACTOR FOR THE DETENTION CENTER.
SO IT'LL HAVE A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH FORWARD RULES.
ALSO, THE, UH, CONTRACT IS AN APPROXIMATE AMOUNT AT $320,000 FOR THE YEAR ANNUALLY.
AND WE TYPICALLY RUN ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 240,000 MEALS IN A YEAR TO SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO 60 TO 70, JUST ALL DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT GET ARRESTED AND BE PER COUNTY AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SO, UM, AS YOU SEE IN THE PACKAGE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE AS SOME PRICING IN THERE, SO WE DON'T REALLY PAY JUST THAT 320, THAT'S JUST AN APPROXIMATE AMOUNT.
UH, WHAT WE ACTUALLY PAID FOR IS THE MEALS THAT WE ACTUALLY SERVE AND GET PREPARED FOR EACH ONE OF THE INMATES THAT ARE INSIDE THE DETENTION CENTER ALSO ON THERE A LOT.
PEOPLE ASK ME, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU PUT A COLD MEAL IN THERE? WHY DON'T YOU DO TWO CALLS AND A HOT, UH, TO MAKE IT CHEAPER? UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE SCALE IN THERE, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT IT'S CHEAPER TO DO THREE HOT MEALS THAN IT IS TO DO COLD MEALS.
AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT IT'S EASIER FOR FOOD SERVERS LIKE TRINITY, OR, UH, THERE'S A SEDEXO OUT THERE.
AND A LOT OF THESE OTHER BIG COMPANIES THAT DO FOOD SERVICE, IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO COOK LARGER MEALS THAT ARE HOT MEALS.
WE'LL SEND IT AS TO TRY TO PREPARE SANDWICH MEAT AND TRY TO PUT SANDWICHES TOGETHER.
THE REASON WHY WE SERVED THREE HOT MEALS, FOOD SERVICE CONTRACT ALSO BRINGS OTHER THINGS WITH IT, WHICH IS, UH, MENUS.
UH, THEY HAVE A DIETICIAN ON STAFF THAT GOES THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEALS ARE PROPER AS FAR AS, UH, FOR THE CALORIES.
UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE PROPER CALORIES FOR JUVENILES AS WE DO HAVE TO HAVE PROPER CALORIES FOR THE ADULT POPULATION THAT WAY WE HAVE INSIDE THE DETENTION CENTER.
UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER ONES, THINGS THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE'S, UM, IN THOSE MENUS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PORK INSIDE THOSE MENUS, UM, TO SATISFY ANY MUSLIMS THAT WE MAY HAVE, UH, INSIDE THE FACILITY.
SO WE DON'T SERVE ANY OR EVERYTHING'S ALL TURKEY BASE, UM, AND TELL THE DIFFERENCE OUT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE MENUS THAT ARE ALREADY DONE UP BY THE DIETICIAN TO COVER ANY TYPE OF MEDICAL MENUS THAT YOU MAY HAVE LOW SODIUM.
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WHEREVER IT IS, THEY'VE GOT ALL THE MENUS ALREADY PREPARED FOR US.AND THAT'S WHAT THE DIETICIAN THAT AS LONG FOOD SERVICE WORKERS THAT WE HAVE INSIDE THE FACILITY COMPARING THE MEALS.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT OUR FOOD SERVICE CONTRACT IS.
AND JUST FOR COUNCILMAN MACALLAN, UH, JUST SO THAT SHE KNOWS HER, THE COMPANY IS BASED OUT OF FLORIDA.
UM, TRINITY GROUP IS, UH, LIKE THE REST OF THESE LARGE FOOD SERVICE CONTRACTORS THEY'RE FROM OTHER PLACES.
UH, TRINITY REASON WHY I COULDN'T ANSWER LAST TIME WAS BECAUSE TRINITY HAS TWO SEPARATE GROUPS.
THEY HAVE A COMMISSARY GROUP AND A FOOD SERVICE GROUP.
UM, I KNEW WHAT A COMMISSARY GROUP WAS, BUT THE FOOD SERVICE WAS DOWN IN FLORIDA.
AND ALSO, UM, JUST FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT FOR THIS COMPANY ALSO LIVES IN BEAVER COUNTY, UH, THAT THE TRINITY GROUP AND A REGIONAL MANAGER LIVES IN ANDERSON AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER REGIONAL MANAGER THAT LIVES IN YOUR COUNTY.
SO THERE IS, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT ARE PART OF THIS, UH, CONTRACT STUFF.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THOSE OF YOU ONLINE? THIS ONE, IF I COULD, MR.
UM, I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
NEXT ONE'S UP ARE OUR, UM, CONTRACTS ARE UP FOR RENEWAL.
I WILL GO THROUGH THREE OF THE ONES THAT ARE UP, UH, THAT ARE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY DIVISION AND THEN ONE OF THEM I'LL LEAVE OFF FOR AUDREY TO TALK TO, WHICH IS THE AL TRANSPORTATION AND THAT'LL BE THREE C.
SO WHEN A RENEWAL WILL BE HILTON PET HUMANE ASSOCIATION FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, COST OF THE CONTRACT IS 550 $505,000 FOR THE SERVICES OUT THERE AT THE ANIMAL SERVICES.
UM, JUST BRIEFLY, UM, MOST OF Y'ALL KNOW, WE GO THROUGH THE ANIMAL SERVICES QUITE OFTEN, BUT, UH, THEY PROVIDE AN OPTION SERVICES OUT THERE.
THEY PROVIDE THE STAIN NEUTER CLINIC OUT THERE FOR US, AND, UH, THEY ALSO PROVIDE VETERINARY SERVICE AND TAKING CARE OF THE CANDLES OUT THERE.
AND, UH, THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER.
WE'RE REALLY LUCKY AND GIVE HER COUNTY AND HAVE THEM AS A PARTNER.
UH, MEDICO IS OUR MEDICAL CONTRACT DETENTION CENTER.
THEY SUPPLY THE RN AND LPN ALONG WITH A PHYSICIAN AND ALSO A DENTIST.
AND SO THIS CONTRACT IS ON HERE.
UM, ONCE A WEEK, OUR LAST YEAR IT WAS COST.
THIS YEAR IS COSTS WILL BE 1 MILLION, $550,000.
THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL THE INMATES INSIDE THE FACILITY, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THE MEDICATIONS ARE CORRECT, UH, PROVIDING A PHYSICIAN ON STAFF SO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO, UM, WHAT WE CALL DOCTOR'S CALL.
UH, IF YOU HAVE A SICK CALL CHIP PUT IN THAT YOU DON'T FEEL WELL, THEN YOU BE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY AN RN AND THEN BY THE PHYSICIAN, AND ALSO, UH, AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PERIOD OF TIME BEING IN THERE, THEY ALSO GET A, UH, DENTAL WORK THROUGH JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS OKAY INSIDE THERE.
UM, AS FAR AS THEIR DENTAL WORK GOES.
SO, UM, IT'S A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE CONTRACT THERE'S UM, WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF INMATES A YEAR AND, UM, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT COME IN WITH PROBLEMS ARE READY BEFORE THEY GET INTO OUR FACILITY.
AND SO WE HAD THAT MEDICAL STAFF AND IT WAS ON STAFF 24, 7, 365.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND PLACE.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE CONTRACTS VERY, VERY LARGE NOW WHEN WE LOST OUR OTHER CONTRACT.
AND WHEN I SAY WE LOST THE OTHER CONTRACT, THE OTHER MEDICAL CONTRACTOR THAT PULLED OUT ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, UH, GAVE US NOTICE AND JUST SAID THAT THEY WERE LEAVING.
WE COULD NOT FIND A MEDICAL CONTRACTOR TO COME ON BOARD.
AND WHEN WE REACHED OUT, WE FOUND MEDICO.
THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE WILLING TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY TAKE OVER THE CONTRACT.
AND THEN WE DID THAT ON AN EMERGENCY CONTRACT
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AND WE PUT IT OUT FOR AN RFP AND THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT, UM, PUT A PROPOSAL IN FOR MEDICAL.SO IT IT'S, IT'S TOUGH OUT THERE FIND COMPANIES THAT REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THE HEART OF IT BECAUSE THE MEDICAL IS USUALLY IF ANYTHING IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR LIABILITY YET.
AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH MEDICAL INSIDE THE DETENTION CENTER QUESTION.
DOES THAT INCLUDE COSTS OF MEDICATIONS? YES, MA'AM, IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE.
THE LAST ONE I NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT IS CLARK MOSQUITO, PAUL.
UM, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PROVIDE ARE BUILT, DECIDE.
THIS IS OUR AERIAL ADULT DECIDE.
UH, WE BUY THEM IN THESE LARGE TUBS AND THE CHEMICALS COME IN AND THEY GO OUT TO THE AIRPORT ON LADY'S ISLAND.
AND OUR
AND, UM, BASICALLY THEY SPRAY FOR THE ADULT MOSQUITOES, AS YOU WELL KNOW, ARE MOSQUITO CONTROL THOSE IN DIFFERENT PHASES.
UH, WE DO THE LITTLE BRIQUETTES AND THE STORM WATER.
DO YOU CATCH OUR STORMWATER MOSQUITOES THAT ARE BREEDING? AND SO WE GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THE 32,500 AND PLUS STORMWATER DRAINS AND DROP A LITTLE GREAT GUEST IN THERE TO STOP THEM FROM BREEDING.
THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE STORM, WATER DRAINS ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE MOST WORRIED ABOUT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT BREED THAT HAVE A WEST NILE.
UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE START AT.
YOU'LL SEE OUR HELICOPTER THROUGHOUT AND OUR HELICOPTER DOES THE LARVACIDING IS WHICH AFTER ONCE THEY BECOME A CERTAIN AGE AND THEIR LARVAE STAGE, AND THE HELICOPTER WAS ELLIS OUT TO KILL THE LARVAE AND THEN AIRPLANE R
SO IT'S SORT OF A THREE-PRONG PHASE THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS CONTRACT IS THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE 218,000 4 27, AND THAT'LL BE A RENEWAL WITH CLARK MOSQUITO CONTROL OUT OF ILLINOIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
PROBABLY THE QUESTION WANTS TO KNOW, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO AUDRA AND SHE CAN FINISH UP WITHOUT CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS OFFICIALLY MY FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM SINCE I'VE TAKEN MY NEW ROLE.
UM, THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT RENEWAL THAT I HAVE IS FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION FOR, UM, DEPARTMENT OF SPECIAL NEEDS DEPARTMENT.
AND IT IS A CONTRACT RENEWAL FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION.
AND THIS PRINT TRANSPORTATION IS FOR, UM, TO COMMUTE INDIVIDUALS DAY SERVICES, CONSUMERS.
THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT IS $283,140.
I ONLY HAVE ONE CONTRACT FOR THIS EVENING.
I WANTED TO JUST CONFIRM THE CONTRACT, THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT UNDER, WOULD YOU SAY THAT NUMBER AGAIN, PLEASE? $83,140.
DID YOU HEAR THAT LARRY? NO, DIDN'T $283,140.
UM, THE UPDATE IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT PROGRAM, THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATIONS WAS JULY 30TH, 38 APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED.
SOME OF WHICH WERE NEW ORGANIZATIONS AND THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE REVIEWED BY PANEL THIS WEEK.
FIRST PART OF THE, UM, DISTRIBUTIONS OF THE FUNDS WILL TAKE PLACE LATE NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER, AND THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF $398,000.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GREENWAY, JUST ONE TO ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM VERY QUICKLY.
I WILL EMAIL YOU ALL A DOCUMENT TOMORROW THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
THIS IS THE VACANT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MATRIX.
IF YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, WE HAVE SEVERAL VACANCIES, 21 VACANCIES ACROSS ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT RANGE FROM COUNTYWIDE POSITIONS TO SPECIFIC DISTRICT, UM, POSITIONS
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THAT ARE VACANT.UH, SO IF YOU ALL PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY VACANCIES IN YOUR DISTRICT OR COUNTY-WIDE AND KNOW PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS, UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR YOU ALL TO WORK WITH TIFFANY AND, UH, UM, MESH BROCK'S OFFICE, UH, TO GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED ALSO FOR ANYONE WATCHING ONLINE OR IN THE AUDIENCE HERE THIS EVENING, UM, THAT, UH, VACANCY LIST IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SERVING ON ANY BORDER COMMISSION, PLEASE, UH, LOOK THAT UP, REACH OUT TO ME OR REACH OUT TO THE CLERK COUNCIL'S OFFICE.
AND, UH, WE WILL HELP YOU FIND A SPOT ON ONE OF OUR MANY VERY IMPORTANT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING.
I HAVE A, MY AUDIO IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY COVER THE STRIKER, MONITORS AND MAINTENANCE AND THE ELECTRIC SYSTEMS THAT WE WERE GETTING REAL CONTRACTS.
WE, WE DID NOT, YOU CAN DO THAT UNDER LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS, IF YOU WISH.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT HE SAID, WHAT HE WAS ASKING ABOUT.
UH, SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? LARRY, IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I HIRED ABOUT.
SO IF YOU WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT THOSE UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE LIAISON REPORTS OR, UH, MR. FOOT IS COMING BACK, MAYBE HE COULD, UM, MENTION THEM.
I BELIEVE THOSE WERE TWO CONTRACTS THAT WERE APPROVED THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AT COMMUNITY SERVICES, COUNCIL MACALLAN.
THEY WERE ALREADY APPROVED AT YOUR LEVEL.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.
WE ARE NOW AT THE COMMITTEE, UH, CITIZENS COMMENTS.
[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language)]
UM, WE DO HAVE SIX PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS COUNTY COUNCIL ABOUT ISSUES.UH, WE DID RECEIVE THREE ONLINE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THEREFORE I DO NOT NEED TO READ THOSE PARTICULAR COMMENTS.
SO AS I CALL YOUR NAME, UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS COUNTY COUNCIL.
UM, WHEN, WHEN YOU DO COME, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, UH, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SIX PEOPLE THAT WANT TO ADDRESS COUNTY COUNCIL.
SO THE FIRST PERSON IS TONY, CHRIS TELLO, MR. CHRIS
I THINK YOU'VE DONE THIS ONCE OR TWICE BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL.
I HAVE THE CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
AND I AM SPEAKING TO YOU, UH, AS AN ADVOCATE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HAVE GREAT RESPECT AND SYMPATHY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND, UH, AS A RESULT OF THAT, I PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CENTER AT BENDON PLANTATION.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, PARTICIPATED IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN 2012.
AND IT SAYS CLEARLY IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, IT IS OUR INTENT TO BUILD AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION SENATOR SENATOR FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
NOW, SINCE I HAVE RETIRED, MY GOAL AMONG OTHER THINGS HAS BEEN TO BE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING GOOD AND LEAVE SOMETHING GOOD BEHIND.
I CANNOT THINK OF A MORE WORTHY THING TO DO THAN TO DO SOMETHING ASSOCIATED WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CENTER.
THE IDEA IS NOW 11 YEARS IN THE MAKING AND IT'S TIME FOR THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, UH, TRYING TO ADVANCE THAT.
CAUSE I APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JUNE AND THEY RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CENTER BE ENACTED THE POWERS, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WERE OUTLINED IN YOUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO OUTLINED AT STATE LAW UNDER THE POWERS DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES OF
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LOCAL GOVERNMENTS UNDER 6 29, 3 42.I COULD READ TO YOU THOSE, THOSE PARTICULAR SECTIONS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT ALL AT ALL SECTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE CODE ARE EQUAL DIGNITY, MEANING THAT EACH PHASE OF THAT ORDINANCE ARE EQUAL VALUE AS THE NEXT IN THE SECTION, DEALING WITH THE POWERS DUTIES OF THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL, IT SAYS THEY SHALL, I MEAN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL, UH, PROMPTLY RECOMMEND TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, THE, UH, ITEM BEING FORWARDED TO THEM, TO YOU COUNTY COUNCIL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND ALSO IN THAT VERY SAME SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT SAYS THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL SHALL, SHALL PROMPTLY DEAL BIKE EXCEEDED C3 MINUTES.
YES, YOU HAVE BOY, I'M HAVING A LOT OF FUN, BUT THE LONG STORY MADE SHORT, MR. CHAIRMAN PROP AND SHELL IS TONIGHT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT YOU CAN, BY TITLE ONLY ADVANCE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FOR, UH, AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CENTER AT BENDON PLANTATION.
UH, THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, UH, CAN BE ASSEMBLED IN P AND PANEL TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
THE CON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A 10 YEAR DOCUMENT AND YOU HAVE 10 YEARS TO WORK ON IT.
I WOULD ASK, ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS.
IT IS, IT IS INDEED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION.
AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO THAT PROMPTLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT, MR. MORRIS CAMPBELL.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN ON A BROAD TIME.
SO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
I THINK WE, UM, TALKED ABOUT THE RETIREES AND HEALTH BENEFITS RETIREES, AND I KNOW THAT A YEAR HAS BEEN A LONG TIME FOR US TO COME BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
AND OF COURSE, UH, WE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY HAPPY WITH, UM, WE THINK WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO ADDRESS THE HEALTH BENEFITS, NOT ONLY OF JUST SOME OF THE RETIREES, UM, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE ADDRESSED THE, UM, HEALTH BENEFITS THAT WERE TAKEN FROM ALL OF THE RETIREES TODAY.
I NOTICED THAT ON THE AGENDA, THERE IS A ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM FOUR IS PROBABLY GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT.
AND MY PURPOSE BOOK IN A DAY IS BASICALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE FAIR.
AND THERE WOULD BE, UM, UM, THE TRUE, UH, I GUESS LEADERS THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, RETIRED OR NOT ARE TREATED FAIRLY ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, ADMINISTRATOR GREEN WAY, UH, PRESENTED AS RECOGNITION OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO, UM, TOOK CARE OF THE GROUNDS AND BASEBALL FIELDS, ET CETERA.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENT THAT REALLY MADE THE DIFFERENCE TO THE CURRENT.
AND A LOT OF THE RETIREES THAT WE ARE BEGGING AND PLAYING FOR ARE THOSE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT BASICALLY WE FELT GOT SHAFT WHEN, UH, THOSE HEALTH BENEFITS WERE TAKEN FROM THEM, UH, ONCE THEY RETIRED.
SO TODAY, IF, UH, ITEM FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS VOTED UPON.
UM, PLEASE DO THAT ON BEHALF OF THE RETIREES, A NUMBER OF THEM ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.
IN FACT, I THINK I'VE DONE, UM, A FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S BEEN RETIRED FROM THE SYSTEM FOR A WHILE, BUT, UM, WHO GIVE LIKE 43 YEARS OF HIS LIFE TO THE COUNTY.
AND HE IS ONLY 50 YEARS OLD NOW.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE BEING 15 AND GIVING A 43 TO THE COUNTY.
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS, BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF DEDICATION
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THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAD DOING, UH, SERVING AND SERVING THE COUNTY.AND WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL BE VERY, VERY MUCH, UM, FAIR AND TREATING ALL OF THEM.
NOW, WHEN I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
I THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO US AND I THANK YOU FOR HOPEFULLY DOING SOMETHING TO REMEDY WHAT WE FEEL WAS A MISTAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
TAMARA, AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ARTHUR CUMMINGS CRUNCHY, BUT AN AUTHOR.
CHAIRMAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, SIR.
UH, MY NAME IS CHERYL KRAMER AND I'M MOVED HERE.
WE GET A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON ME.
UM, I THINK YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL.
UH, MY FAMILY MOVED HERE, UH, IN 1962, SO I'M PRETTY MUCH A LIFELONG RESIDENT.
I HAVE LIVED IN GEORGIA A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I WAS, UM, WITH WORK AND SOME FAMILY ISSUES WITH HEALTH, BUT FOR THE MOST OF MY LIFE, I'VE LIVED HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA BEAVER COUNTY, UH, IN 2003, UH, PURCHASED A LOT THAT I PLANNED TO BUILD ON.
IT HAD SOME DELAYS, UH, BECAUSE THE FINANCES AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
SO I DIDN'T GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED UNTIL RECENTLY.
UH, WENT DOWN TO THE COURTHOUSE AND APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT.
I'M GOING TO BE MY OWN CONTRACTOR.
AND, UH, I GOT A FEE OF SOME $16,000, UH, UH, FOR THE PERMIT.
SO I DID SOME INVESTIGATING AND I DIDN'T PAY IT RIGHT THEN BECAUSE I HAD STICKER SHOCK ACTUALLY, UH, AFTER I GOT THE BREAKDOWN ON IT.
AND I ACTUALLY, I ENDED UP TALKING TO MR. UH, BRIAN FLAILING, WHO IS MY, UH, REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNCIL DURING THAT TIME.
OH, THAT WAS ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE I, UM, MADE SOME DECISIONS TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD AND, UH, PAID IT UNDER PROTEST.
BUT THE, UH, PERMANENT FEE WAS ABOUT $6,859, BUT THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL IMPACT FEE THAT HAD WENT INTO PLACE.
ABOUT 30 DAYS BEFORE I WENT DOWN IN JULY 28TH, APPROXIMATELY TO DO MY PERMIT, THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEE WAS $9,535.
UH, SO ANYWAY, HAVING SAID THAT, UH, THIS WAS ALSO AS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE YOU PASSED, IT I'LL THINK IT WAS A SEVEN TO FOUR VOTE.
UH, MR. FLAILING, UH, VOTED IN OPPOSITION TO IT.
HE REPRESENTS MY AREA, BUT THIS FEE, UH, WAS PUT IN PLACE FOR THIS, UM, UH, SCHOOL IMPACT FEE FOR THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION.
I'M ASSUMING OF SCHOOLS, UH, SOUTH OF THE BROAD RIVER AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
SO THAT LIFTS LEAVES OUT TOWN OF HILTON HEAD THAT LEAVES OUT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THAT LEAVES OUT PALMATE AND BLUFF, WHICH IS TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UH, SO ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT PAYING THE $9,535 ADDITION THAT I HAD TO PAY.
UH, I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS WAS AN UNFAIR BURDEN, UH, FOR A FEW PAYING FOR MANY.
AND, UH, I JUST REALLY REQUEST THE COUNCIL, TAKE SECOND CONSIDERATION ON THIS, UH, AND THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY REVERSE THEIR DECISION AND COME UP AND DEVELOP A MORE EQUAL AND FAIR.
AND I'VE HEARD THAT WORD MENTIONED FAIR AND EQUAL HERE TONIGHT A FEW TIMES FROM MR. CAMPBELL AND OTHERS HERE, UH, TO COME UP WITH A MORE FAIR AND EQUAL FUNDING FOR THE SCHOOLS SOUTH OF THE ROAD RIVER.
UH, NEXT WILL BE, UH, AND STAKER GOSLING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
I AM REPRESENTING OVER 1900 REALTORS IN THE REGION, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HOMEOWNERS AND B FOR COUNTY.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY ZONE STANDARDS ORDINANCE BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY.
WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE CREATION OF A COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY ZONE.
IT IS THE DISCLOSURE CONTAINED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS PROBLEMATIC.
WE HAVE LISTENED TO MEMBERS OF THE SEA LEVEL RISE TASK FORCE, AS WELL AS THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE.
THEY HAVE MADE IT CLEAR TO STAFF AND OTHERS THAT THE MAIN PURPOSE WAS TO EDUCATE PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE.
I AM HERE TODAY TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO THAT, BUT NOT BY INTERFERING WITH THE BUSINESS TRANSACTION, CREATING A LIABILITY FOR HOMEOWNERS AND STIGMATIZING PROPERTIES.
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YOU MAY BE ADVISED THAT THE CREATION OF THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION AIRPORT OVERLAY DISTRICTS SET A PRECEDENCE FOR THE PROPOSED DISCLOSURE, BUT IT DOES NOT.THEY ARE APPLES AND ORANGES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
IT'S A FACT THAT NOISE EXISTS ALREADY.
DISCLOSURES ARE FOR IDENTIFYING THE HISTORY AND EXISTING MATERIAL FACTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
THE CROI ZONE DISCLOSURE ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS POSSIBLE FUTURE OCCURRENCES TO THE PROPERTY.
EDUCATING A BUYER OF THE POTENTIAL OF FLOODING SHOULD NOT BE A LIABILITY FOR A SELLER.
IF THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCLOSURE IS TO EDUCATE, THEN LET'S DEVELOP A PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF THE DISCLOSURE THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE CREATING LIABILITY FOR THE SELLER.
WHY NOT HAVE THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, THE SEA LEVEL RISE TASK FORCE, THE COUNTY AND BOTH REALTOR ASSOCIATIONS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A MARKETING PIECE, TO BE DISTRIBUTED ANNUALLY, TO HOMEOWNERS THAT ADDRESS SEA LEVEL RISE AND FLOOD INSURANCE.
WE WOULD PUT OUR RESOURCES BEHIND THAT TYPE OF AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, THE REALTORS ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE CREATION OF THE CRO ZONE.
THE DISCLOSURE IS THE PROBLEM LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO TRULY EDUCATE PROPERTY OWNERS IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT BURDEN THEM WITH LIABILITY.
I AM JANET GRESHAM AND I AM THE CEO OF THE BUFORD JASPER COUNTY REALTORS.
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT OF COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY ZONE ORDINANCE.
UM, STAFF HAS STATED THAT THIS DISCLOSURE IS LIKE THE AQS DISCLOSURE, BUT YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE TWO.
THE LIABILITY ATTACHED TO THE AQS DISCLOSURE IS BASED ON A MATERIAL PRESENT FACT THAT PROPERTIES LYING WITHIN THE AQS ZONE WILL EXPERIENCE NOISE AT VARIOUS LEVELS.
BUT THE LIABILITY ATTACHED TO THE CRO DISCLOSURE IS BASED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF FUTURE FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE.
STATE LAW REQUIRES SELLERS TO SIGN AND PRESENT A PROPERTY DISCLOSURE TO PERSPECTIVE BUYERS.
AND THIS DISCLOSURE CREATES LIABILITY FOR A SELLER BASED ON THE SELLER'S OWN KNOWLEDGE OF EXISTING MATERIAL FACTS ABOUT THE HISTORY AND CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY LIABILITY AND PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF EXISTING PROPERTY CONDITIONS IS NOT THE SAME AS CREATING LIABILITY FOR IMPOSSIBLE FUTURE EVENT.
THAT'S FLOODING, WHETHER IT'S FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE, HURRICANES OR OTHER NATIONAL NATURAL DISASTERS, BUYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONDUCTING THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE WHEN BUYING PROPERTY.
AND THEY'RE ADVISED SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE PROCESS AND BEFORE SIGNING A CONTRACT TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF EXPERTS TO DETERMINE THE ELEVATION FLOOD ZONE, FLOOD RISK, AND TYPE OF INSURANCE TO PURCHASE INSURANCE AGENTS AND OR SURVEYORS ARE THE EXPERTS WITH THE KNOWLEDGE BASE TO PROPERLY ADVISE BUYERS, NOT SELLERS AND SELLERS SHOULD NOT BE CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LIABILITY TO CERTIFY SUCH INFORMATION.
OUR ENTIRE COUNTY IS IN A FLOOD PLAIN AND SUBJECT TO FLOOD FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE.
YET THE CRO ZONE TARGETS, PROPERTIES, LEAST LIKELY TO FLOOD OR EXPERIENCED SEA LEVEL RISE.
IT APPEARS THAT THESE PROPERTY OWNERS COULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED AND AS SUCH A FUTURE SALE COULD BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED AFTER READING THAT THE PROPERTY WILL FLOOD DUE TO QUOTE INCREASINGLY INTENSE STORM EVENTS, KING TIDES, AND SEA LEVEL RISE, CLOSE QUOTE, AND BUYER MAY ELECT NOT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY OR ANY PROPERTY IN BUFORD COUNTY.
FOR THAT MATTER, SINCE THE ENTIRE COUNTY IS SUBJECT TO THESE SAME THREATS, WE BELIEVE THE MISSION OF THE COUNTY SHOULD BE TO EDUCATE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING SEA LEVEL RISE AND THE AVAILABILITY OF FLOOD INSURANCE, NOT JUST THOSE IN THE CRS ZONE AND UNINCORPORATED BUFORD COUNTY, WHICH IS THE LEAST LIKELY AREAS TO EXPERIENCE FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE.
WOULDN'T A BETTER APPROACH BE TO LAUNCH AN ANNUAL OR SEMI-ANNUAL EDUCATIONAL MARKETING CAMPAIGN COUNTY-WIDE TO INCLUDE ALL FLOOD ZONES AND ALL OWNERS, THE REALTOR SESSIONS ASSOCIATIONS WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS AND WOULD ASSIST IN THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING PROPERTY OWNERS AND BE FREE.
AND OUR LAST PERSON IS MIRIAM MITCHELL.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS GROUP, THE RETIREES TO COME AND ADDRESS YOU AND TALK ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
UM, MY NAME IS MIRIAM MITCHELL.
I'M FROM SEABROOK, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND I'M ALSO A FEW FOOT COUNTY RETIREE.
UM, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THESE COMMENTS ON THE RETIREE HEALTHCARE BENEFITS AND YOUR DISCUSSIONS.
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS WAS A GROUP OF LOYAL EMPLOYEES WHO HAD NO SICK LEAVE.
IF YOU WERE SICK, YOU EITHER CAME TO WORK SICK OR YOU TOOK VALUABLE VACATION TIME, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE TWO WEEKS, A YEAR YEARS OF FURLOUGHS, NO COLOS.
THEY WERE UNDERPAID WITH NO PROGRESSIONS AND THEY WERE UNDERSTAFFED AND HAD LIMITED HOLIDAYS.
THE IRONY IS THEY WERE ALSO TOW MANY TIMES THAT THEY WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSETS THE COUNTY HAD AND TO ADDRESS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, UH, COMMENT.
UM, HE WROTE, HE RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SAYING THAT.
UM, BUT WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT THE RETIREES HAD WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEIR HEALTH CARE BENEFITS WERE TAKEN FROM THEM, LET ME REPHRASE THAT.
UM, THERE WERE NO EXPLANATIONS WHILE OTHER RETIREES RECEIVED CONSIDERATIONS.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY RECOGNIZE THESE EMPLOYEE RETIREES.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALL OF THE RETIREES THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT STAND SO YOU CAN RECOGNIZE THEM.
THAT WILL CONCLUDE, UH, THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS, UM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO HAVE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WHO MAY WANT TO REPORT AND DEAL WITH THOSE FIRST.AND THEN I WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE.
SO BEGINNING WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, MR. MCCONNELL CHAIRMAN, UM, WOULD CHOOSE THAT WERE, WAS THAT THE BY AUDRA
UM, I MADE A STATEMENT THAT I THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE TITLE OF THE NON COMMITTEE WAS COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT REPORT AGAIN THIS EVENING.
UM, TODAY THE FDA HAS LIFTED THE EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION FOR PFIZER COVID-19 VACCINE ISSUING FULL APPROVAL.
UM, FOR US THAT'S VERY GOOD NEWS.
I ALSO READ TODAY AND PAY FOR THAT AT LEAST 554,000 PEOPLE HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS AND ABOUT 9,000 OF GUIDANCE, CAROLINA'S SMART DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL REPORTED A 40,000 NEW CASES OF VIRUS COMPLETED ON MONDAY, AT LEAST 1,942 PEOPLE HOSPITALIZED WITH THE VIRUS AUGUST 20TH, 197 AS A MONDAY 14.5% OF COVID-19 TESTS REPORTED POSITIVE IT'S COUNTERS OR PROTOCOL AND PREVENTION SAY 5% REAL LOWER MEANS.
CAUSE A LOW LEVEL OF SPREAD JUST OVER 36% SOUTH CAROLINIANS WERE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE VACCINE FULLY VACCINATED, NEARLY 55% RECEIVED AT LEAST ONE IN SEVEN DEATHS, WHICH THE HIGHEST CASE AVERAGE SINCE THE PANDEMIC IS 20 POINTED.
MY BELIEF THAT VACCINE IS THE BEST WEAPON AGAINST THIS VIRUS.
I URGE ANYONE WHO IS LET'S SUPPOSE, YOU KNOW, MORE RESISTING VACCINATION FOR THEIR OWN AND THE COLLECTIVE GOOD OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
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FINANCE COMMITTEE.WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS, UH, COMING OUT OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FIRST IS A READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 21, CARIO CARRY OVER BUDGET ITEMS. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND IS NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS FIRST READ OF AN ORDINANCE TO REDIRECT EXPENDITURES OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS BOND SERIES 2020.
AND OBVIOUSLY NUMBER FOUR HAS BEEN MOVED TO, UM, UH, AN ACTION ITEM AS THE, UM, SO AGAIN, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE, UH, SEPTEMBER 19TH AT 2:00 PM.
WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, NUMBER SIX ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CDC CODE, ADDRESSING GENERAL PARKING STANDARDS SO THAT PARKING CAN BE MORE THAN 600 FEET FROM THE PREMISES, WHICH MIGHT MAKE GOOD SENSE IN SOME SITUATIONS.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT THAT, ONE'S ABOUT.
NUMBER SEVEN IS A ZONING CHANGE FROM, UH, S ONE INDUSTRIAL TO C3.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE ONE IN QUESTION IS ALREADY C3, AND THIS WILL ALLOW SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY THAT THE OWNER WANTS TO DO THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY, UM, AT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A MANMADE OF AN EASEMENT ENCUMBERING PROPERTY.
AND THIS HAS BEEN A LONG-TERM THING GOING ON, UM, THAT HAS TO DO WITH A SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
AND THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED A, THE EASEMENT OF SWITCH SHOULD ASSOCIATED WITH A CERTAIN PARCEL.
ONCE THE CONDEMNATION ACTIONS ARE FINALIZED FOR ANOTHER PARCEL.
SO THAT WILL, UH, ENABLE US TO GO AHEAD WITH THE REGIONAL, UM, STORMWATER THAT IS SYSTEM IT IS NEEDED TO BE PUT IN THERE.
UH, NUMBER NINE IS A TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING FIELD STANDARDS.
UH, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE NATURAL REESE RESOURCE COMMITTEE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, ONLY EXISTING LOTS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE FILL REQUIREMENTS.
IT WAS APPROVED BY THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE AND WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD.
THERE WAS NO FINANCIAL IMPACT.
THIS WILL LIMIT FIELDS TO THREE FEET.
IT WAS, THIS WILL HELP US IN SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT NEEDS.
UH, KEEPING THINGS LIMITED ON HOW MUCH ACTUAL FIELD DIRT CAN COME IN ITEMS NUMBER 10 AND 11 HAVE BEEN PULLED.
UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 12.
THIS IS A CONTRACT APPROVAL, WHICH EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE COULD APPROVE, UH, $449,350 FOR PHASE TWO FOR PLANNING SERVICES FOR THE OTT RIVER PARK.
AND THIS WILL ENABLE THINGS TO GO FORWARD FOR THE PARK.
AND IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT CONSTRUCTION MAY START AS EARLY AS JANUARY, 2022, ASSUMING THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ACCESS TO THE COUNTY PARK HAD BEEN COMPLETED BY THAT TIME.
UM, NUMBER 13 IS A RESOLUTION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE, UM, FOR THIS IS CHANGING, UM, THE PUBLIC ACCESS PHASE TWO.
WE NEED TO, UM, CHANGE WHAT WE'RE USING.
THE, WE WERE GOING TO USE $1 MILLION FOR PITNEY POINT PRESERVE, BUT THIS AMENDMENT WAS ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS INTO THE PINE VIEW TRACK AND THE BAILEY MEMORIAL PARK AS THOSE ARE THE ONES MORE URGENT TO DO AT THIS TIME.
AND, AND WE, WE WERE IN A, UM, LITIGATION REGARDING ACCESS TO PITNEY POINTS.
SO THIS ENABLES US TO USE THAT MONEY TO GO FORWARD, UM, WITH THOSE OTHER TWO PASSIVE PARKS.
AND THERE'S AN APPOINTMENT OF TIMELESS MURRAY AS A PARTIAL FIRST TERM OR RURAL AND CRITICAL PRESERVATION BOARD FOR THE EXPIRATION DATE OF 2023.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO MENTION THAT, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, UH, ON LIAISON TO THE TCL BOARD AND THEY HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS, UH, THE DUAL ENROLLMENT IS UP, UH, THEY ARE GOING TO BE OVER 400 STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THEIR COLLEGE DEGREE.
AND TCL IS ALSO THAT IS IN BUFORD COUNTY.
THEY HAVE ALSO GOTTEN A GRANT TO WORK WITH HAMPTON AND JASPER COUNTIES ON THEIR DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAMS. THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS THE BOARD APPROVED TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO WHERE THEY DO CDL TRAINING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, CDL LICENSES ARE NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND PARTICULARLY IN OUR AREA IS EVERYONE ELSE.
AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HAMPTON SITE, UH, SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ISSUE PERMITS, UH, CDL PERMITS AT THAT SITE, WHICH WILL ALSO HELP WITH A SHORTAGE OF BUS DRIVERS, CAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR LICENSES THERE TOO.
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HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE A CONCURRENT PROGRAM IN THE HAMPTON COUNTY SCHOOLS TO GET THE CDL WHILE A STUDENT IS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'VE MADE A FEW CHANGES IN THEIR COURSEWORK.UH, THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR PROGRAM FOR POLICE SCIENCE SO THAT THEY, MORE STUDENTS CAN TAKE SOME OF THOSE CLASSES AND WERE, THEY ARE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM 2020 IN THEIR FULL-TIME ENROLLMENT, BUT AGAIN, THEIR ENROLLMENTS ARE UP AND PUBLIC FACILITY.
UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, A COUPLE ITEMS, ONE 15 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS TO DO WITH A $1.2 MILLION AUTHORIZATION OF ACCEPTING FAA MONEY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY HOUSEKEEPING AFTER THE FACT, UH, BUT THE PLANNING FOR THE STRENGTHENING OF THE RUNWAY, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED BY THE FAA.
AND WE WENT AHEAD AND SIGNED THAT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
THE SECOND ITEM HAS TO DO WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS ON ONE 70 AND IT WAS MENTIONED IT'S REALLY 1.5 MILLION, NOT THE 500,000 IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'VE TALKED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE 1.5.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOTHING NEW TO US.
BUT THE BACKGROUND ON THAT IS THAT THAT SECTION OF ONE 70, FROM 2 78 UP TO 4 62 IS PROBABLY THE MOST DANGEROUS SECTION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, NOT COUNTING THE WORK GOING ON ON A TUESDAY, UH, 2 78.
UH, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACCENTS.
IN FACT, THERE WAS ONE THERE TODAY AS I WAS DRIVING OVER FOR AF FOR COUNCIL.
SO I THINK ONCE WE LEARNED ABOUT IT, UH, WE STEPPED OUT AS COUNCIL APPROVED THE MONEY TO GET ON WITH THE DESIGN AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S UNDERWAY.
UH, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION PIECE, UM, BEST ESTIMATE.
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION.
UH, WE WOULD BE PUTTING UP OR 1.5 MILLION OUT OF IMPACT FEES AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
UH, JASPER WAS STILL AFTER APPROVED THEIR PIECE.
THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE, UM, REQUESTING A MILLION FROM THERE, COUNSEL.
AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO ASK BOTH OF US AGREED.
WE ASKED CARDI VILL FOR HALF A MILLION, UH, GOING FORWARD.
UM, THE OTHER PIECE THAT WILL HAPPEN IN PARALLEL WITH THIS AS C D O T HAS A RESURFACING IN THAT AREA SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO THEY'VE AGREED WITH OUR STAFF THAT WE'D ROLL THOSE TOGETHER.
UM, AND, UH, IF, IF WE'VE INCURRED ANY COSTS PRIOR TO THE NEXT JULY, UH, WE WOULD OVER THOSE AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE THIS OUT OF THEIR, THEIR BUDGET GOING FORWARD, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME GOOD ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
UH, AND I THINK THE OTHER MORE IMPORTANT PIECE IS I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR JASPER AND BUFORD TO REALLY SIT OUT, ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND LOOK AT WHAT IT'S HAPPENING ON ONE 70 AND YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO FOR HERE FROM HERE? YEAH, MAYBE THERE'S SOME, UH, LOOKING OUT OVER THE HORIZON A LITTLE BIT.
THERE MAY BE SOME MORE DESIGN WORK THAT WE WE WANT TO GET ON WITH.
UM, TWO OTHER ITEMS FROM A COMMITTEE STANDPOINT, JUST TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE, UH, PACKET TODAY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL USE OF THE OLD BRIDGES AS SOME KIND OF A, WHAT THEY CALLED LINEAR PARK.
YOU MAY REMEMBER A REPRESENTATIVE.
JEFF BRADLEY BROUGHT THAT UP, UH, SOME TIME AGO AND, UH, MR. WYNN WAS QUOTED IN THE PAPER TODAY AND SAYING, IT'S NOT TOTALLY OUT OF THE, UH, THE QUESTION I THINK THE ISSUE FOR DOTD ON THIS IS THEY'RE HAPPY TO GIVE THE BRIDGES TO ANYBODY, UH, THAT WOULD TAKE THEM, UH, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IN THEIR WAY OF DOING BUSINESS, THEY WOULD HANG ON TO.
SO THEREFORE THEY HAVE FOLDED DEMOLITION INTO THE, UH, INTO THE PLAN PROJECT.
IT'S ABOUT A, ABOUT AN $8 MILLION BILL IS AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT SINCE THE DOOR IS A LITTLE BIT OF JAR, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY WOULD DO ON THEIR OWN.
UM, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST BENEFIT WOULD BE FOR HILTON HEAD.
BUT I THINK IF HILTON HEAD WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN DOING IT, I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER, UH, BEING PART OF.
SO I THINK AT PUBLIC FACILITIES, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND SEE A DIALOGUE WITH THE TOWN AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK AT.
UM, UH, JUST TWO OTHER MINOR POINTS TO THAT.
THE, AND I THINK DLT IS BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE HAPPY TO GIVE THE BRIDGES TO SOMEBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS A PORTION OF THE NORTHBOUND SECTION OF THE WESTBOUND SECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD BE ACTUALLY USED FOR THE BICYCLE TRAIL RATHER THAN DESTROYING THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.
AND THAT WOULD SAVE BUILDING, UH, UH, NO, THE BICYCLE TRAIL ALONG THERE.
UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT SOME FOLKS HAVE SUGGESTED IS THAT PERHAPS THE, UH, ONE OF THE BRIDGES COULD BE RETAINED AND THAT COULD BE THE CONNECTION FROM JENKINS TO PINCKNEY.
UH, AND THAT WOULD, UH, SAVE HAVING THE ON-OFF RAMPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGH-SPEED SECTION OF THE WHOLE BRIDGE SECTION.
SO ANYWAY, STAY TUNED ON THAT ONE.
AND, UH, UH, LASTLY WE'LL BE TAKING UP PROBABLY AT OUR NEXT PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING, UM, THE TERMINAL AND
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THE, AND THE FUNDING.UH, WE HAVE THE GOOD PROBLEM THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GROWTH.
UM, AND SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE THINK THAT MEANS, AND THE FAA HAS PUT UP A 20 MILLION AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THE BALANCE OF IT AND TALKING TO A HILTON HEAD.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENT ON THEIR PART, THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE PART OF IT, BUT WE STARTED OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE AMOUNT IS.
SO ANYWAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS FROM OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES.
UH, THE FINAL ITEM COMES FROM ME, UH, TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND ONLINE, AND TO EVERYONE WHO IS LOOKING ON ON TELEVISION TODAY, I'M CREATING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE TASKED TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR TWO SPECIFIC GROUPS.
THE FIRST GROUP IS THE OVER 1300 EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN OUR 52 BUILDINGS ACROSS BUFORD COUNTY.
THE SECOND GROUP IS THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY THAT INTERACT WITH OUR EMPLOYEES ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE KNOW THAT COVID-19 AND ITS VARIANCE HAVE CAUSED BUFORD COUNTY TO REACT IN A VERY, IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
AS WE HAVE DEALT WITH THE VIRUS OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS, WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH WHAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE NEEDED TO KEEP BOTH EMPLOYEES AND OUR CITIZENS SAFE.
WE SHUT DOWN THE COUNTY AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THINKING THAT MAY WORK, WE PASSED A MASK ORDINANCE AND RENEWED IT THREE TIMES, THINKING THAT WOULD WORK.
WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING TO GET A HANDLE ON COVID-19, ESPECIALLY THIS NEW VARIANT WE'RE NOW FACED WITH RISING INFECTIONS AND PRESSURE ON OUR HOSPITALS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO TREAT THOSE WHO ARE INFECTED AND TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR SANITY.
THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WILL BE ASKED TO ADDRESS SEVERAL ISSUES AND BRING THEM TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR RECOMMENDATION IN THE NEAR TERM, MIDTERM AND LONGTERM.
SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE, WHAT SHOULD IT BE? THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN COUNTY BUILDINGS? WHAT SHOULD BE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH OUR EMPLOYEES IN A COUNTY BUILDING? CAN WE END? SHOULD WE REQUIRE MASKS FOR EMPLOYEES? CAN WE, AND SHOULD WE REQUIRE MASK IF YOU COME TO A PUBLIC FACILITY TO INTERACT WITH THOSE? SO IN ORDER TO DO THIS, I HAVE FORMED A AD HOC COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND TALKING WITH MR. GREENWAY LIAISON FROM ADMINISTRATION WHO ARE GOING TO BE ASSIGNED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COUNTY ARE MR. LARRY MCKELLEN.
WHO'S GOING TO CHAIR THIS COMMITTEE AND HE'S GOING TO REPRESENT THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN BUILDINGS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, COUNCIL MEMBER, MARK LAWSON.
HE'S GOING TO BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND HE WILL REPRESENT THOSE BUILDINGS, THOSE EMPLOYEES IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF BUFORD COUNTY AND ALICE HOWARD, WHO WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AND REPRESENT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK IN BUILDINGS NORTH OF THE ROD, FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, TOM, KEVIN WILL A DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE.
SCOTT MARSHALL HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR WILL PROVIDE POLICY ADVICE.
AND FINALLY PONDERA GRANT WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE DETENTION CENTER DIRECTOR WILL PROVIDE EMPLOYEE IN INFORMATION.
SO THEREFORE I'M ASKING MR. MCKELLEN TOO QUICKLY, AS SOON AS HE CAN TO CALL THIS GROUP TOGETHER, TO BEGIN THE WORK WITH A FULL REPORT TO COUNTY COUNCIL TO BE DONE AT ITS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 27TH OF THIS YEAR, NOTICE THAT I AM FOCUSING ON OUR EMPLOYEES.
WE WERE A VERY LARGE EMPLOYER THAT HAS THE DUE DILIGENCE TO PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE PUBLIC THEY DEAL WITH.
THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PASS A MASS MANDATE
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FOR THE COUNTY.WE ARE NOT TELLING BUSINESSES WHAT TO DO.
WE ARE NOT TELLING INDIVIDUALS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.
WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE HAVE THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE COUNTY IS WELL RUN.
AND THAT PEOPLE WHO NEED TO COME TO THE COUNTY OFFICES CAN FEEL SAFE AND THE EMPLOYEES CAN FEEL SAFE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SPEAK AS WELL? AWESOME.
UM, FIRST I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT AWARE THAT I KNEW NONE OF WHAT WAS JUST ABOUT TO BE SAID ABOUT A GROUP BEING FORMED.
THAT WAS JUST EXPRESSED TO ME.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS EXPRESSED TO ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL, BUT I JUST FOUND OUT, UM, SO THAT'S ONE, TWO.
UM, AT ANY TIME, IF THAT GROUP TRIES TO MANDATE OR PUSH ANYTHING ON ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, I HOPE THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES FOR THEIR OWN BELIEFS.
UM, WE HAD, UM, UM, GENUINELY HAVING FIRED UP RIGHT NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, ACTUALLY, WE ALREADY TRIED TO IMPLEMENT, IMPLEMENT SOMETHING OUR EMPLOYEES ONCE BEFORE, WITHOUT US KNOWING, AND IT CAME TO US IN THE EMAIL AND THEN IT WAS RECITED.
AND NOW THIS COALITION WAS JUST BUILT TO POSSIBLY DO OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING OUR TEACHERS.
SO ANYTIME WE TRY TO DO THAT, I HOPE YOU WOULD INCLUDE THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THAT, WHICH MAYBE YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO SOME OF THEM.
I'M NOT SURE ANYTIME WE TRY TO IMPOSE ANY MASK MANDATES OR VACCINATIONS FOR ANY OF OUR EMPLOYMENTS, JUST KNOW, I HOPE YOU FOR COUNTY IS HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES TO THAT AS THEY SHOULD, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT TRIES TO FORCE A VACCINATION ON ANYONE.
THAT SHOULD BE A FREEDOM OF DECISION NOTICE.
I WAS NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS OR INVITED TO THIS GROUP WHATSOEVER.
UM, THAT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME CONSIDERING I WAS THE ONE THAT PUSHED TO GET THE MASK MANDATE REMOVED TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE THAT THIS WAS NOT MADE AWARE TO ALL OF US.
I WON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT THIS JOB IS BEING ABLE TO DO THE LITTLE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO OTHERS.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HEARD ABOUT THE PEER ON WHIDBEY CREEK, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING A POSITIVE HEADWAY ON THAT, A COMMUNITY THAT AS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH, REALLY TO GET A HANDICAP ACCESS FOR THAT, UH, THE FINAL DETAILS HOPEFULLY ARE FINISHED FOR THAT TOMORROW TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON THAT.
UM, I TOO WANT TO, UH, EXPRESS TO THE SEVENTH, UH, THAT MR. CUNNINGHAM, THIS OUTLINE, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING THIS, UH, HOWEVER, I COMMEND YOU FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS TASK FORCE AND FOR THIS TASK FORCE TO MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO THIS COUNCIL, TO THIS BODY, BECAUSE I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR STATEMENT, THIS IS REALLY A SERIOUS SITUATION THAT WE IN WRITE DOWN.
SO I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING THAT.
UM, EVEN THOUGH DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS THAT, UH, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AS CHAIRMAN, I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE THESE COMMITTEES AND I DID, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS WE ARE NOW AT
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THE CONSENT AGENDA.THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCLUDING ITEMS, NUMBER FOUR, 10 AND 11.
MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
MOTION IS MADE BY COUNCIL WOMAN HOWARD SECOND, PLEASE.
MR. DAWSON MAKES THE SECOND FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. CHAIRMAN? UH, JUST, UH, TWO CLARIFICATION'S, WHICH I DON'T THINK REQUIRE ANY, UH, ACTION, BUT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID AT COMMITTEE WAS TO MAKE THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE RECENTLY PASSED F Y 22 BUDGET.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT CAME OUT OF FINANCE.
SO THE WORDING ON THAT SHOULD BE, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD USE AS WE GO TO THE SECOND READING, UH, AND VERY SIMILARLY ON ITEM FIVE, UH, WHERE WE'RE REDIRECTING SOME EXPENDITURES.
THAT WAS TO BE AN AMENDMENT OF THE, UH, ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZED THOSE BONDS MONIES THAT ARE BEING REDIRECTED.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT REQUIRES ANY ACTION ON OUR PART, BUT I THINK WHEN WE COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING, THAT SHOULD BE THE WORDING, ANY COMMENT FROM OUR ADMINISTRATION REGARDING WHAT HE SAID.
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I'M NOT SURE WE'LL EVALUATE THAT AND OKAY.ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.
THEREFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.
WE ARE NOW AT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS. AND THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WOULD ASK FOR A MEMBER OF COUNCIL FOR A MOTION TO OFFER PAYMENT TO RETIREES FOR LOST OF POST RETIREMENT HEALTH INSURANCE.
IT'S WITH PLEASURE THAT I MOVED THAT, UH, ITEM, MR. RODMAN MAKES THE MOTION SECOND, PLEASE.
MR. SOMERVILLE WE'LL MAKE THE SECOND.
IT HAS BEEN DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED SINCE MR. DAWSON HAS TO RE WISHES TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM HERE.
UH, LET'S MAKE A DISCUSSION AND THEN I WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL, VOTE.
ANY DISCUSSION, ANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IN CHAMBERS OR ONLINE? I SEE
IT'S THE MORAL THING TO DO AND PULL THIS COUNCIL, UM, TO LIVE UP TO THEIR COMMITMENTS, TO THESE RETIREES.
I TRUST THAT IT'S SUFFICIENT, BUT HE MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT, BUT AT LEAST COUNSELOR'S DONE SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS SEEING NONE? UH, MR. RODMAN, YOU MADE THE MOTION.
SO HE'S CONSIDERED AN ABSTENTION, MR.
MR. GLUCK, UH, ECHO, UM, BRIAN'S CUMMINS.
MR. MCKELLEN, MR. LAWSON, MARK LAWSON.
AND A CHAIRMAN ENTHUSIASTICALLY SAYS YES.
YES, NO OBJECTIONS AND ONE RECUSAL.
UM, WE ARE NOW GOING TO, THERE ARE NO MATTERS ARISING OUT OF THE CAUCUS MEETING.
WE WILL GO TO THE TWO OTHER ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WERE REMOVED.
THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM NUMBER 10.
SO I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION FOR THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE, AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY, TO CONVEY A PORTION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY BUFORD COUNTY, KNOWN AS THE OCA T RIVER PARK WITH TMS NUMBER ARE 621 0 6, 7 AND THREE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, I'D ASKED IT, ASKED IF, IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY COMBINED 10 AND 11, BECAUSE THEY ARE RELATED AND THEY SPEAK TO THE SAME ISSUE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE 10 TO 11 AS A SINGLE MOTION.
SO DOES SOMEONE WISH TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEMS 10 AND 11? SO MOVEMENTS ARE CHAIRMAN.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. RODMAN STEW MAKES THE SECOND.
SO IT'S DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED DISCUSSION.
UH, SINCE LOGAN YOU MADE THE MOTION FIRST, YOU CAN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION.
MR. RODMAN, YOU WERE THE SECOND.
WELL, IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS A SMALL PIECE OF LAND, THAT THERE WAS THE EASEMENT ACROSS FOR FOOT TRAFFIC, BUT NOT FOR VEHICLES.
AND SO THIS WOULD, UH, ALLOW THAT EASEMENT FOR, FOR VEHICLES.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT DOES IS FOR SOMEBODY COMING TO THE PARK, RATHER THAN GOING A VERY ROUNDABOUT WAY THROUGH A COMMERCIAL AREA AND THROUGH GRAVES' ROAD AND BACK THROUGH, UH, SOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, THEY WOULD GO DIRECTLY IN, ON THE ROAD THAT COMES IN FROM THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
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THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT THERE WAS SOME PROPERTY THAT WOULD GO TO THE CROSBY FAMILY, BUT HE WOULD HAVE, UM, THE EASEMENTS ON IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE EQUALLY PROTECTED AS IT IS TODAY.SO I THINK THAT'S THE GIST OF WHAT THESE TWO ARE ASSUMING.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN MR. RODMAN CONVEYED.
I, DON'T NOT SUGGESTING MR. RODMAN MISREPRESENTED, BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
THIS THIS MATTER SPEAKS TO, UH, AS PART OF A LONG STANDING, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, UH, AT PEPPER HALL, THAT WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS FINALLY AGREED TO A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
UH, IT WAS HOTLY CONTESTED AND IT FINALLY PASSED ON A SIX TO FIVE VOTE.
UH, AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DISCUSSION, AND, UH, THE RESULT OF THE, THE RESULTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS VERY GENEROUS TO THE DEVELOPER, VERY GENEROUS.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY PAID FOUR AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS FOR 18 ACRES ADJACENT AS PART OF THAT PROPERTY TO CREATE A PARK.
AND I THINK ANYBODY, ANYBODY, ANY, ANY SANE PERSON WHO LOOKING AT THAT REALIZE THAT'S AN AMENITY FOR THAT PROJECT.
NOW THAT'S NOT A CRIME, BUT IT IS.
IT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE AN 18 ACRE PARK, UH, RIGHT ON, ON HIS RIGHT ADJACENT TO HIS PROPERTY THAT'S DEVELOPED AND PAID FOR AND MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.
UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OTHER VERY GENEROUS, UH, CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, WE, WE ALLOWED THEM TO, I SAY, WAIT, UH, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO PUT STORMWATER PONDS ON OUR 18 ACRES AS OPPOSED TO ON THEIR, ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S SOME OF IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT A LOT OF IT'S ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH CAUSE IT KEEPS GROWING.
UH, AND EVERY, AND EVERY SQUARE INCH OF STORMWATER CLOG, IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE PARK AND THE STORM WATER COMES OFF OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THERE WAS, UH, WE ALLOWED THEM TO USE PART OF THE PROPERTY FOR YEARS FOR FREE.
THERE'S A BARN, THEY WERE LIVING IN IT.
AND THEN FINALLY WE CHARGED THEM A DOLLAR A YEAR.
UH, WE PAID FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, TH THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE COUNTY THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.
AND WE JUST KEEP ON GIVING, I GUESS, YOU'LL FIGURE BY NOW THAT WAS OPPOSED TO THIS FROM DAY ONE.
NEVERTHELESS, THE AGREEMENT WAS AGREED TO FINALLY, THEN NOW WHEN YOU SELL SOMEBODY A PROPERTY, YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO IT.
AND SUDDENLY WE FIND OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE REASONABLE ACCESS.
NOW WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SOME KIND OF WINDY ROAD THROUGH THE APARTMENTS AND THE TOWNHOUSES AND THE WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING TO BE PUT IN THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE WHAT ARE CALLED REASONABLE ACCESS.
AND SO THE, THE PROPOSED SOLUTION HERE IS FOR US THE KENNEDY TO GIVE AWAY A PIECE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE PAID $250,000 AN ACRE FOR, UH, ALONG WITH ANOTHER POSSIBLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT WE BOUGHT THAT WE THOUGHT WE BOUGHT.
AND NOW WE'RE NOT SURE WE GOT IT AT ALL, HAS A DOCK ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP, UM, SO WE CAN GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING, THE SIMPLE VERSION OF WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TAKING THIS, TAKING THIS ONE IN THE SHORTS BADLY.
SO WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, I WAS CONFUSED AND I VOTED FOR THIS AT COUNCIL BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER MATTER THAT CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE STATE.
NO, OR I'M DONE, BUT I'M ADMITTING THAT I MADE A MISTAKE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE MEETING.
SO I'M GOING TO ABSOLUTELY VOTE AGAINST THIS.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL MORE QUESTIONS UNANSWERED ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF, THE LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT THE LITTLE CORNER, OR HAVE IT DOWN THERE ON THE WATER, IT HAS A DOCK ON IT.
THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS AFTER WE PAID $250,000 AN ACRE FOR WHETHER THE OWNER, THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY OWNED IT.
UH, AND BY THE WAY, THE DEVELOPER IS NOBODY'S FOOL.
HE HAD A 31, UH, 31 ITEM, UM, DISCLAIMER, ON THE, UH, TRANSACTION ONE, UH, ONE OF THEM SAID, HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT GUARANTEEING THE TITLE TO ANY OF THIS.
SO, AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.
I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS A MESS TO PUT IT MILDLY.
SO I THINK UNDER ANY CIRCLE, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PERSONAL VIEW IS ON THIS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD VOTE ON IT UNTIL AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
UH, ARE WE VOTING, OH, WE WERE VOTING TO GIVE SOME OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE PAID $250,000 AN ACRE FOR TWO, THE TWO, UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE SISTER OF THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE CAN GET ACCESS TO A PROPERTY THAT, THAT, THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD GIVE US.
IT'S MY CONTENTION THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD GIVE US ACCESS
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REASONABLE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH YOU CAN EASILY DO.AND I DON'T HAVE A MAP AND YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT A MAP.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
WHEN YOU COME IN THERE, YOU CAN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A LEFT AND GO IN THERE, BUT WE'D HAVE TO GO ACROSS HIS PROPERTY.
AND I THINK HE SHOULD GIVE US ACCESS ACROSS THIS PROPERTY.
NOT FORCE US TO BUY PROPERTY FROM, OR, UH, GIVE PROPERTY TO SISTER.
UH, SO WE CAN GET ACCESS TO THE PARK.
THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO UNDERSTAND.
I SPENT TWO HOURS TALKING TO LAWYERS ABOUT THIS AND MY HEAD WAS SPINNING WHEN I LEFT.
AND NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S COME TO THE SURFACE.
THE ATTORNEY THAT I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE STAFF, THERE IS NOT HERE, APPARENTLY NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
THAT'S FINE, BUT YES, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD PUT THIS THING TABLE THIS THING.
AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT WHEN I FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT PROCEDURALLY UNTIL WE CAN AT LEAST UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE SITUATION IS, WHAT WE OWN, WHAT WE DON'T OWN, WHAT THE OBLIGATION OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPER IS TO GIVE US ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY THAT HE SOLD US FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, INSTEAD OF JUST RAISING OUR HAND AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T WE JUST GIVE AWAY PART OF IT AND TAKE AN EASEMENT SO WE CAN GET INTO THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN.
I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT I THINK YOU KIND OF GET THE PICTURE THAT THIS IS A MESS.
SO, UM, PROCEDURALLY, MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE INSTANTLY.
ANYTIME YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO, I DON'T KNOW, PROCEDURALLY, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION.
DON'T DO THE FIRST READING, BUT YOU MAY MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A TECHNICAL QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION IF I COULD.
I THINK YOU'RE ASKING YOU WANTED TO GET, DO IT UNTIL SOMETHING INFORMATION IS DONE.
THAT'S REALLY A POSTPONEMENT, NOT A TABLING.
OH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, COULD WE ALLOW ALL DISCUSSIONS BEFORE YOU GO FOR THE POSTPONEMENT? YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION? PREFERABLY IF I CAN MAKE HER POSTS, I THINK MR. ROBINS, CORRECT.
I THINK THE CORRECT MOTION IS POSTPONED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL OUR LEGAL STAFF IS COMFORTABLE GIVING US OR DENYING WHAT FURTHER DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, NOW I HAVE TO CALL FOR A SECOND ON THAT.
AND THEN WE DISCUSS YOUR MOTION TO POSTPONE.
THEN WE TAKE A VOTE ON YOUR MOTION TO POSTPONE, WHICH WOULD, WELL, SIR.
I THOUGHT THE TABLE WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
I THOUGHT THE TABLE WAS NON DEBATABLE, BUT NOT TO POSTPONE.
WE TAKE ACTION ON WHICH WILL CUT ANY FURTHER DEBATE WHERE YOU, YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
I JUST HOLD OFF UNTIL EVERYBODY COMMENTS I'LL MAKE MORE MONEY.
I A HUNDRED PERCENT UNDERSTAND, UH, MR. SUMMER SOMERVILLE'S FRUSTRATION.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THIS THOUGH, DOING THE BREAKDOWN.
WE ARE GIVING UP ABOUT A 10TH OF AN ACRE.
SO ABOUT $25,000 OF OUR MONEY.
WE ARE GIVING BACK WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE GETTING THE PARCEL IN THE BLUE AREA.
IF YOU SEE IT ON THAT SCREEN, IT'S IN THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? AND WITH ACCESS TO THAT PARCEL AND THE BLUE AREA IN RETURN, WHICH I THINK IS JUST SHY OF 3000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S NOT VERY BIG, BUT IF WE GET THAT RIGHT AWAY, ACCESS TO THAT, THAT GIVES US DIRECT ACCESS FOR A ROAD RIGHT INTO THE PARK, WHERE BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO UP AND AROUND TO THE RIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE PARK, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH TO ME IS EVEN MORE OF A WASTE OF $4 MILLION.
WHEN MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THROUGH RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES TO GET TO SOME FORM OF A PARK.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT AS WELL IS IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA BETWEEN THE YELLOW AND THE RED, THAT'S THE AREA WE'RE GIVING AWAY, UM, TRADING, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
WE DID NOT HAVE PLANS TO USE THAT LAND.
ANYWAYS, WE WERE PLANNING ON USING IT AS A BUFFER IN THE AGREEMENT WITH THIS AS WELL.
THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD ON THAT LAND ANYMORE EITHER.
SO THAT LAND WILL HAVE TO REMAIN UNTOUCHED.
WE ALSO HAVE PLANS TO BUILD OUR OWN PEER IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, A BETTER LOCATION, MORE CENTRALIZED TO THE CENTER OF THE PARK.
SO WE WEREN'T REALLY PLANNING TO USE THAT PEER EITHER.
UM, IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING AS MR SOMERVILLE SAID.
UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ERRORS ALONG THE WAY.
UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD, TO HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PARK FOR THE CITIZENS.
CAN WE HAVE TITLE INSURANCE? I WOULD ASSUME SO.
DO WE HAVE TITLE INSURANCE? YES.
THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS YES, WE DO.
THEN WE HAVE A CLAIM AGAINST ARCHIVAL INSURANCE FOR ANYTHING THAT, UM, THAT IS IN DISPUTE THAT WE'RE GIVING UP ANY,
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ANY ACCESS THAT WE HAVE TO APPLE BY, IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE IN ORDER TO GET TO OUR PROPERTY.SO I REALLY THINK THAT YOU NEED TO CALL WHATEVER TIMELINE INSURANCE COMPANY WROTE THAT POLICY AND, UH, START THE PROCEDURE FOR MAKING A CLAIM BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA, I DON'T WANT TO PAY A DIME OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUNDS.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS MONEY BEING EXCHANGED.
IT'S PROPERTY BEING EXCHANGED, AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO MONEY BEING EXCHANGED AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY.
BUT WE'RE GIVING UP THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S LABELED THE FRENCH LANCE THAT HAS A VALUE.
WE'RE GOING TO GET, WE HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY THAT HAS A VALUE.
WE NEED TO MAKE A CLAIM FOR THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY, WHATEVER IT IS, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE UP THE PROPERTY TO GET ACCESS TO THE PARK.
WE'RE DOING THIS IN ORDER TO CREATE EFFICIENT ACCESS TO THE PARK.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE PARK PROPERTY EITHER THROUGH THE BUILDING OF THE PRIMARY PARK ACCESS ROAD THAT IS FURTHER DOWN RUNE OR GOING THROUGH THE UPPER END OF GRAVES' ROAD, RIGHT BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL AREA THROUGH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS COUNCIL MEMBER.
LOGAN SAYS, SO WE HAVE TWO PLACES WHERE WE CAN ACCESS THE PARK PROPERTY.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE GIVES FOLKS MORE DIRECT ACCESS, DO THE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE AREA INTO THE PARK WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN ORDER TO GET INTO THE PARK, WHICH I THINK FROM A LAND USE PLANNING STANDPOINT IS GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC LONGTERM BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION TO THIS THAT OCCURS OUT ON ST.
UH, THERE'S A PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS THERE.
AND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE GET REJECTED FROM GOING THROUGH THAT GATE.
ONCE THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE FULL, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT AGREEMENT WAS SET UP THIS AGREEMENT WITH DOING THE PROPERTY SWITCH.
AND I'M JUST MAKING SURE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER NECESSARILY THE WAY THIS DEAL SETS UP IS WE CONTROL THE DIRECT ACCESS INTO THE PARK.
IF WE DO THIS LAND SWAP, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET INTO OUR PROPERTY.
JEREMY MS. HOWARD, I WON'T REITERATE WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN SUMMERVILLE SAID, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID, I'VE ALWAYS VOTED AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, I NEVER, IT NEVER, I'VE BEEN WITH IT SINCE EARLY TIMES AND NEVER AGREED TO THE STORM WATER ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE PAID FOR.
I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT I THINK A POSTPONEMENT MIGHT BE THE BETTER CHOICE.
SO I WILL SUPPORT A POSTPONEMENT AT THIS TIME, MR. LAWSON.
AND, UM, I ACTUALLY IS, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE TABLE YET, UM, FOR A POSTPONEMENT, I WOULD PROBABLY AGREE TO THAT AT THIS POINT.
UM, FOR ONE THING IT'S NOT A PROPERTY SWAP, IT IS A PROPERTY SWAP FOR AN EASEMENT ACROSS, UM, THE, THE, THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, I WOULD THINK THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT, THAT I WOULD AGREE TO THAT IS ACTUALLY IF WE HAD DEEDED ACCESS AND NOT JUST A, AN EASEMENT, UM, AND I, AS MR.
CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE IN QUESTION, UM, OF, OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY OWN, UH, AS, AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, UH, OF, OF WHETHER IT IS THAT YELLOW LINE OR WHETHER IT IS THAT RED LINE THAT WE SAW UP THERE.
I THINK THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED YET.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY TWO THINGS.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, UH, ALSO, UM, UH, BE AN APPROVAL OF A POSTPONEMENT IF THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, MR.
WADE IS SO AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE.
OKAY, CHRIS, GO AHEAD, SHARON.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT NUMBER ONE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT.
I THINK WE JUST NEED BETTER INFORMATION.
UM, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, THIS HAS BEEN A COMEDY OF ERRORS FROM JUMP STREET.
AND AT SOME POINT WE'VE GOT TO PUT IT INTO IT.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE KEEP GETTING ASKED FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
AT SOME POINT IT'S GOT TO STOP.
IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR TO ME IF THIS PARK IS GOING TO BE REALLY THAT AWESOME THAT WE NEED THIS ROAD, PEOPLE WILL DRIVE THROUGH WHATEVER TO GET THERE, IF IT'S REALLY THAT AWESOME.
AND I THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, AND I'VE GOT ALL THE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD THAT WE, THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN AWESOME PARK, BUT, UH, TO JUST KEEP GIVING AND GIVING AND GIVING AT SOME POINT, IT'S GOT TO STOP.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I GO BACK TO BRIAN? OH, WELL I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, BUT GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD FIRST AND THEN
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STALL ON THEN.WE'LL HAVE YOU GOT YOUR VOTE THEN YORK AND THEN, UM, APPALL WILL WE REAL QUICK? I'M HOPING THAT THE COUNTY WILL REALLY PROVIDE APPRAISALS FOR BOTH PIECES OF PROPERTY, BOTH THE PIECE THAT WE'RE GIVING UP AND, AND THE VALUE OF THE EASEMENT THAT WE INTEND TO ACQUIRE.
THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT AND I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR PAUL'S, UM, MOTION TO, UH, UH, TO POSTPONE FOR SOME INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME.
DEFINITELY IN-DEPTH AND IT DOESN'T MATTER SIMPLY BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ROBERT GRAVES, UM, STU A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KEEP IN MIND THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS RECOMMENDED THIS, AND THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PARTY, UH, FOR THE COUNTY.
THIS IS NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. GRAVES.
UM, AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET BETTER ACCESS TO A PARK THAT WE WANT.
UM, SECONDLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL A LONG TIME AND WE DO A LOT OF THINGS AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE CLOSE VOTES, UM, BUT WHATEVER THEY'VE DONE, THAT'S BEEN THE CONSENSUS OF THE BODY.
AND TO GO BACK AND REVISIT AND REVISIT AND REVISIT, I THINK IS, IS OUT OF KEEPING WITH THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE AND NEED TO DO BUSINESS.
NOW, IF WE WANT TO GO BACK AND REVISIT WHAT WE DID, YOU KEEP IN MIND.
UH, WE BOUGHT THE SECTION ALONG THE RIVER.
WE HAD AN OPTION TO BUY THE ENTIRE THING, WHICH WE NEVER EXERCISED.
SO MR. GRAVES PROCEEDED WITH A DEVELOPMENT AND THEN, AND I FORGOT WHO INITIATED IT, BUT WE ESSENTIALLY SAID, LOOK, WE, WE HAVE A, UH, A PIECE OF LAND THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AS A PASSIVE PARK.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PASSIVE PARKS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
UM, SO THAT, AND IF WE HAD JUST WANTED TO DO A PASSIVE PARK AND ACQUIRE THE LAND TO GET TO THAT PARK, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE SPENT SIX OR $8 MILLION IN DOING IT.
AND I, AND I FORGET THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE REIMBURSING MR. GRAVES, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMEPLACE IN THE ONE TO 2 MILLION RANGE.
SO, UM, YOU CAN SET ASIDE ALL THE STUFF THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, BUT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY.
BUT I THINK ONCE WE VOTED ON SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GAIN ANYTHING BY GOING BACK OVER AND OVER.
BUT I DO BELIEVE MAYBE ERIC CAN, UH, CAN CONFIRM THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY.
AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE YOU ALL WANT ME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IN OPEN SESSION.
SO YES, TO YOUR POINT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODMAN, IT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY, BUT I'M GOING TO CAVEAT THAT WITH THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE, AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE WAY I SAY THIS, UH, MR. GRAVES AND HIS ATTORNEY IS UNCOOPERATIVE IN DOING ANYTHING ELSE AND LOOKING INTO ANY OTHER REASONABLE SOLUTION TO GIVE US DIRECT ACCESS INTO THAT PARK, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION WHERE NONE OF THIS HAS TO TAKE PLACE.
HE CAN DO A WETLANDS CROSSING THAT HE ALREADY HAS A PERMIT FAR TO GIVE US DIRECT ACCESS IN THAT PARK.
AND ALL OF THIS ISSUE GOES AWAY, BUT HE HAS REFUSED TO DO THAT AS HE HAS REFUSED TO COOPERATE ON WITH ALL WITH ME ON MANY THINGS WITH REGARDS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THIS PART.
SO I HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION, GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT I'M CONFRONTED WITH.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO HERE FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THE PARK.
SO I HOPE THAT'S NOT OFFENSIVE TO ANYONE.
I DON'T MEAN IT TO BE, BUT THOSE THAT THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION AS I SEE IT.
UM, BUT LET ME FIRST, UM, COMMEND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR COMING UP WITH A BETTER ACCESS TO THIS PARK.
I DO SUPPORT, UM, THAT EFFORT, UH, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS, UH, WITH ACCESS TO THIS PARTICULAR PARK, UM, BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEN IN THE MINDS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, UM, UH, HAVING, UM, PEOPLE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD VISIT THIS PARK THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT AREAS, STUFF MAY PROBABLY BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THEM.
UM, AND SO HAVING THIS DIRECT ACCESS, UM, GIVE THEM A BETTER, UH, ACCESS TO THIS PARTICULAR PARK.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH HIS, UM, IN VOTING FOR IT.
AND I, CAN'T NOT SUPPORT IT BECAUSE, UM, FROM, FROM DAY ONE, WHEN I WAS IN THE ROOM
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AND CRITICAL, AND BOY, I WAS AGAINST EVEN PURCHASING THE, THE, THE PARK, HOWEVER, UM, WE WERE CONVINCED TO DO SO TO SUPPORT IT, WE DID, AND IT WAS GOING DOWNHILL EVER SINCE.AND THE BENEFICIAL, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE HAS BEEN MISSED TO THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT, UM, THIS EFFORT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY OWN A CONTINUOUSLY GET THE BEST DEAL IN THIS WHOLE SITUATION.
I'LL TRY TO WRAP THIS UP SO WE CAN MOVE ON.
WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF STUFF TO DO TONIGHT.
UM, IN ADDITION, I JUST THINK, I NEED TO MENTION THAT, UH, WHEN THIS DEVELOPER SIGNED THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH GAVE HIM EVERYTHING, THE MOON AND THE STARS, HE, HE, HE AGREED TO PAY THE SCHOOL IMPACT, BUT HE'S NOW HE'S FIGHTING US ON.
THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY SCHOOL IMPACT, WHICH HE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT THAT HE SAID HE WOULD THAT ASIDE.
UM, NOBODY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO WIND THEIR WAY THROUGH APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS AND WHATEVER ELSE, WHATEVER ELSE HE PUTS IN THERE TO GET THERE.
THE POINT IS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, THE DEVELOPER SHOULD GIVE US ACCESS AND HE CAN EASILY DO THAT.
AND, UM, AND TH AND THE COMMENT ABOUT THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD EASEMENT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I DON'T THINK WE OWN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN LEGALLY DO THAT.
I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT ACCESS ON THAT FAR END.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONLY ACCESS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IS A POSSIBLE WINDING THROUGH THE APARTMENTS.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND, AND IN ORDER TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, IT SHOULDN'T BE ON THE BURDEN OF THE TAXPAYERS.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GIVE BACK MONEY TO GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY THAT HE SOLD US.
HE SHOULD GIVE A C ACCESS AND THAT, AND, AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, AND THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSAL, BECAUSE IT MAKES THE COUNTY PROVIDE ACCESS, WHICH HE SHOULD PROVIDE.
SO WITH THAT, MY MOTION IS THAT WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE CAN GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF ALL THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE GET CERTAIN PIECES OF INFORMATION IN POSTPONING.
UM, SHOULD WE NOT SET A TIME FRAME IN 30 OR 60 DAYS? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
SO WE'LL ASK WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO IS, UH, ASK STAFF TO DO THE RESEARCH, UH, BRING A REPORT BACK TO NATURAL RESOURCES AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE.
SO WE CAN HAVE FREER DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THIS.
AND YOU ALL CAN DECIDE IF YOU'RE READY FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE THE MATTER BACK UP AT THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
I THINK WE CAN BE READY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND WE DO HAVE THREE WEEKS UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING, NOT THE TWO WEEK CYCLE, BECAUSE FIFTH.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AMENDMENT SEEING NO DISCUSSION SINCE YOU MADE THE AMENDMENT? YOU GO FIRST, MR. SOMERVILLE ON THE AMENDMENT.
ON THE AMENDMENT, MR. CUNNINGHAM.
CHAIR SAYS, YES, WE ARE UNANIMOUS TO POSTPONE ACTION ITEMS, NUMBER 10 AND 11.
[10. THIRD READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 5.23 ACRES (R100 027 000 042B 0000) AT 335 JOE FRAZIER RD FROM T2 RURAL TO T2 RURAL CENTER Vote at First Reading: June 14, 2021 8:3]
ITEM.NUMBER 10, THIRD, READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT REZONING REQUESTS FOR 5.23 ACRES AT 3 35 JOE FRAZIER ROAD FROM T2 LAUREL TO T2 RURAL CENTER.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SO CHAIRMAN.
THERE WAS A PHOTO FINISH, BUT MR. SOMERVILLE MADE THE MOTION AND MR.
AND SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE BRIEF STATEMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
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UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN COUNCIL.I AM CO-OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 3 35 JOE FRAZIER ROAD.
UH, ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY BROTHER, FRANK, WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR SUPPORTIVE VOTES ON OUR FIRST AND SECOND READING.
AND WE WOULD ALSO ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT TONIGHT ON OUR PETITION ON ITS THIRD READING.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE WILL.
ARE WE IN PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN? WE ARE NOT.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE.
THE MOTION PASSED MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND BECAUSE WHEN WE GO BEYOND THE EIGHT O'CLOCK HOUR, UH, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T, BUT, UM, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION SECOND, PLEASE.
ANY DISCUSSION? MOVING IN SECOND, ANY OBJECTIONS TO EXTENDING BEYOND THE EIGHT O'CLOCK WITCHING HOUR? I KNEW YOU WOULD COME.
WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN HIS TRADITION.
BUT MAYBE WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS AND YOU WON'T BE THAT LONE RANGER, UH, ITEM
[11. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 3.4.90 OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADD A COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO REQUIRE REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE WHEN PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED IN ZONE X (SHADED).]
NUMBER 11 IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 3.4 0.902.THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADD A COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIRE REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE.
WHEN PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED IN ZONE X MOTION, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT.
SECOND, MR. GLOVER DISCUSSION.
YOU'VE HEARD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY LIKE, AND DON'T LIKE ABOUT THIS, MR. SUMMERFIELD.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAD JUST A COMMENT.
THIS IS FIRST READING, AND THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR FROM OTHER FOLKS AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, THERE WERE SOME EMAILS THAT WERE SENT FROM MEMBERS OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, REAL REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, AND NONE A MISDIAGNOSED, AND THIS AGGRESSION OVER HERE.
AND I HEARD FROM MR. TWIZ DALE, AND, UH, THERE WERE AT LEAST THERE WERE SEVEN SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, WHICH ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, FAIR QUESTIONS.
AND, UM, UH, I SAID, I'VE SPOKEN TO, OR COMMUNICATED WITH AT LEAST ONE OF THESE FOLKS AND SAID THAT, UH, THOSE DESERVES AN ANSWER.
THERE WAS A, UH, ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS HAS DONE A WRITTEN RESPONSE TO THAT.
I THINK I WENT TO MS. STEIGER.
I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE HAS SEEN IT.
UM, BUT I THINK, UH, EVERYONE WHO IN THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, WHO'S INTERESTED IN THAT, UH, PARTICULARLY THOSE SEVEN QUESTIONS, UH, SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND YOU MAY, YOU MAY DISAGREE.
YOU MAY WANT TO RESPOND FURTHER TO IT, BUT THE INITIAL SEVEN QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY, UH, BY OUR STAFF SO FAR ON FIRST RATING.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. RODNEY? OH, AND THEN, UM, MR. CUNNINGHAM.
YEAH, GO AHEAD, MR. COMING HERE.
UH, FIRST OFF, NOT SURE HOW THE REAL ESTATE GROUP GOT MY PERSONAL NUMBER, BUT IF YOU GUYS COULD USE MY COUNTY ONE, I WOULD MOST DEFINITELY CONTACT YOU GUYS BACK.
I'LL BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CALL YOU BACK IN THAT I WON'T CALL BACK ON MY PERSONAL, I THINK I HAD 34 PHONE CALLS FROM REALTORS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING, SECONDLY, UM, IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN.
I GET MY MIND CHANGED DURING, UM, A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE FLOOD ASSOCIATION AND DIFFERENT GROUPS GETTING TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT, UM, DIFFERENT LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS,
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UM, WHETHER MY OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS ON FLOODING, NON FLOODING, RISING WATER, NON RISING WATER IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE MOVING TO THE LOW COUNTRY.YOU LIVE HERE, IT'S LITERALLY IN OUR NAME.
UM, SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA OPPOSE THIS.
UM, I SUPPORTED IT LAST TIME, BUT I DO WANT TO SEE, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS MAYBE COULD PULL TOGETHER A GROUP BEFORE THE SECOND OR THIRD READING AND PRESENT SOME OPPORTUNITIES OR PRESENT A GROUP THAT'S WILLING TO GET TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
UM, THAT'D BE SOMEWHERE AROUND SEVEN WEEKS, SIX WEEKS BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE.
UM, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS WITH THIS PROPOSAL TODAY.
UM, THE FIRST AMONG THEM IS ITS EFFECT ON THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN AND THEY ALL THE SOUTHERN REGIONAL PLAN AS WELL.
AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THE MUNICIPALITY IS NOT LEGALLY ON BOARD YET, I DON'T BELIEVE.
AND SO THAT AGAIN PUTS THE UNINCORPORATED, UH, INCORPORATED AREA COUNTY AT A DISADVANTAGE TO, UM, MARKET FORCES.
UH, VIS-A-VIS THE MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE IMPACT WE JUST PUT IN AND YOU HEARD, UM, ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS TALK ABOUT IT EARLIER TODAY, THE NEGATIVE IMPACT, THIS WILL BE JUST ONE MORE REASON FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, TO MOVE TO A JASPER COUNTY INSTEAD OF YOU FOR COUNTY.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BAD IDEA, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE MARKET FOR PROVIDING HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE, THIS WILL DO NOTHING, BUT RAISE THE EVENTUALLY OF, UM, OF A PRICE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN BEAVER COUNTY.
I THINK THE LONG-TERM IMPACT WILL BE TO STALL A BUY AND INSTALL FIRE OR VOCO ACADEMY.
AND WE NEED TO AVOID THAT AT ALL POSSIBILITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING IS KIND OF A PHILOSOPHICAL POINT FOR ME.
AND THAT IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD INTERFERE BETWEEN PRIVATE AND ATTRACTS INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO BUTT OUT, LET PEOPLE MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS INSTEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT, TRYING TO MIND IT FOR EVENT FOR THEM.
IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S JUST NOT OUR BUSINESS.
THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE MOTTO WHEN YOU'RE BUYING REAL ESTATE AND WE NEEDED TO, BUT OUT THANK YOU MR. RODMAN.
YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST.
UM, I'M INTRIGUED WITH THE CONCEPT OF AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, UH, BUT FOR A BROADER REASON, AND IT KIND OF GOES LIKE THIS.
I THINK WE LOSE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE FEARFUL OF THE HURRICANES.
AND IN REALITY, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROBABILITY OF A HURRICANE, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN A VERY LOW, WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE LOWER QUARTILE OF THE PROBABILITY OF ACTUALLY HAVING A HURRICANE.
BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE SEASON, THEY COME UP IN THE, IN THE GULF AND IN THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE SEASON, THEY'RE ALWAYS KIND OF SWINGING TO THE NORTHEAST.
SO THEY KIND OF HIT FLORIDA OR THEY HIT CAPE HATTERAS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET THE OCCASIONAL ONE THAT COMES IN LIKE HUGO, BUT WE, WE REALLY DON'T GET VERY MANY.
AND I THINK ACTUALLY TO DISCLOSE TO PEOPLE, THE REALITIES OF THE PROBABILITY OF HAVING A HURRICANE MAY ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE AND HELP WITH PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY, SOME PEOPLE GO AWAY JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE FEARFUL OF, OF A HURRICANE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT KEEP IN MIND IF WE DO THIS EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN NOW IN, IN TERMS OF THE PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, I, I'M NOT YET CONVINCED, UH, YOU KNOW, I READ THE, WHAT WAS PUT FORWARD.
UH, BUT, UH, I SAW WITH ROB HAD A VERY, UH, UH, REASON RESPONSE TO THAT, TO THAT.
BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THE DOCUMENT THAT CAME FROM THE REALTORS WAS WRITTEN BY A LAWYER.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE RECEIVED A LEGAL, UM, DEBRIEFING FROM OUR OWN ATTORNEYS AS TO WHETHER WE HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO DO THIS.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO.
AND SECONDLY, I THINK IN OUR EARLY DISCUSSION, UM, ONE OF THE COUNTER-ARGUMENTS WAS THAT THIS IS A DUPLICATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S IN PLACE.
AND SO I'VE YET TO HEAR THE ARGUMENT ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS A DUPLICATION OF, AND IT'S AVAILABLE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
AND I, AND I, I AGREE WITH BRIAN, I THINK THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE, THE BUSINESS OF, OF GOVERNMENT, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO, UH, NOT GOING TO LOOK FOR A POSTPONEMENT, BUT I DO THINK STILL SOME ISSUES TO BE, UH, TO BE ANSWERED MR. MERCHANT.
WELL, I, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
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THAT YOU HAD, UM, THE FIRST IS THAT THIS ORDINANCE, UM, BASICALLY CORRESPONDS WITH THE VERY SPECIFIC AREAS TO FIND BY FEMA AND THAT'S, UM, THAT ZONE X SHADED, WHICH IS IN THE STAFF REPORT.UM, IT IS THE AREA OF THE, UM, BASICALLY BETWEEN THE 100 AND 500 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, AND THE REASON WE CHOSE THIS IS THAT WHEN PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, THAT'S A ZONE, A THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO BUILD UP THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS FREE BOARD.
AND THAT'S ALSO, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO GET A TEAM OF FLOOD INSURANCE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY CONVEYED WHEN PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED.
PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE TO BUY THE FEMA FLOOD INSURANCE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA SITS OUTSIDE OF THAT.
AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WERE AWARE OR HOME BUYERS THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, THERE STILL ARE RISKS.
AND THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GET FEMA INSURANCE, THERE IS STILL FLOOD INSURANCE AVAILABLE IN THE PRIVATE MARKET.
AND SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS A VALUABLE PIECE OF INFORMATION.
UM, THERE IS SOME OVERLAP WITH THE STATE DISCLOSURE, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ACTUALLY PROVIDES MORE CLARITY.
THE STATE IS BASICALLY A BOX TO CHECK WHERE THIS SAYS SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE RISKS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LOCATION IS, UM, IN, IN THE ISSUE OF REDUNDANCY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED FROM, UM, FEMA IS THAT THEY VALUE REDUNDANCY IN, IN GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT.
AND SO WE DO REALIZE THAT THERE IS SOME NEW OVERLAPPING INFORMATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS IS, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE RISKS AND THEY CAN ASK ACT ACCORDINGLY.
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE THAT I, I DID THE STAFF REPORT, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE RATIONALE BETWEEN WHY WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, THIS AMENDMENT.
UM, UH, LET ME TELL HIM, MR. SUMMERVILLE BROUGHT TO THE DELIVERING OF MR. MERCHANT'S ANSWER TO MR. TWIST DALE.
SECONDLY, UM, I'VE HEARD FROM REALTORS THAT THIS IS UNNECESSARY AND REDUNDANT.
I ALSO HEARD THAT IT'S INCONVENIENT FOR THEM TO HAVE TO DO THIS AND THAT IT MAY BE A DETRIMENT PURCHASE.
I DON'T REALLY CHECK THAT FOR YOU.
I THINK THAT THIS MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH PARTIES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE BUYERS WILL BE FULLY INFORMED TO FULL DISCLOSURE.
AND SINCE THE SELLER IS FULLY THE BUYER OF RISK THAT MAY PREVENT PEOPLE FROM FILING LAWSUITS AGAINST THE SELLER FOR FAILING TO DISCLOSE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE'LL BE A PROBLEM WITH SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO SHARING ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I DON'T SEE THIS AS SUCH A TERRIBLE THING TO HAVE IMPOSED ON THE CONTRACT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MR. HARVARD SHINE.
UH, IN MY VIEW, THIS IS DUPLICATIVE NUMBER ONE, UH, NUMBER TWO, ANYBODY WHO'S LIVED HERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, REALIZES THAT THE LOW COUNTRY CAN FLOOD AND IT WILL ON OCCASION.
IT HAPPENS ANYBODY WHO'S MOVING HERE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, MOVING TO THE LOW COUNTRY OF COASTAL TOWN ON THE EAST COAST, WHERE WE DO HAVE HURRICANE SEASON.
I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A CONSIDERATION.
IT'S GOING TO COME UP IN THE INSURANCE PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IT'S GOING TO COME UP CERTAINLY IN THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS.
IF SOMEBODY LIKE INTELLIGENCE ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY THE AREA THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY IN.
I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE THAT WE JUST DON'T NEED, FRANKLY.
SO FOR THAT REASON WE DON'T PUT, OKAY.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.
SO, UM, I WILL CALL THE ROLE MS. HOWARD.
YES, WE ARE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 1 2 3, 4 5.
YES FOR THE FIRST READING, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE A GREATER DIALOGUE WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP TO MAKE AN INFORMED
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DECISION GOING FORWARD.MIGHT I ASK FOR THAT COUNT AGAIN? HAVE THAT VERIFIED BY THE CLERK.
I GOT A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN YOU DID START SIX.
[12. A RESOLUTION TO EXPRESS BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL’S REQUEST THAT THE SC GENERAL ASSEMBLY TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTIONS TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO COLLECT USER FEES THAT FUND CRITICAL NEEDS SUCH AS PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE]
NUMBER 12.A RESOLUTION TO EXPRESS BUFORD COUNTY.
COUNSEL'S REQUEST THAT THE SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTIONS TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO COLLECT USER FEES.
THAT FUND CRITICAL NEEDS SUCH AS A PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
MAY I HAVE SUCH A MOTION? SECOND, CHRIS, YOU ARE THE MOTION AND YOUR, YOU WERE THE SECOND DISCUSSION.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.
THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? NO OBJECTIONS.
THE ITEM THE RESOLUTION IS SUCCESSFUL.
UM, WE ARE NOW AT OUR FINAL CITIZENS
[13. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language)]
COMMENTS.MR. CHRIS HAD TOLD ME, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
IF AN IDEA CANNOT STAND IN THE ARENA OF PUBLIC DEBATE, IT DOES NOT DESERVE TO STAND, BUT AT LEAST YOU SHOULD GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO GET THERE.
I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THAT CHANCE.
AS AN ANSWER, I CAN ACCEPT THE WORD NO, AS AN ANSWER, BUT I CANNOT ACCEPT SILENCE AS A NON-ANSWER MR. CHAIRMAN.
I PAID MONEY TO APPEAR BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I PAID MONEY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU COUNTY COUNCIL.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU PRECEPT THE NOTION THAT YOU WOULD BE TOLD TO WASTE YOUR MONEY.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I DO A LOT OF WOODWORK AT MY SHOP, BUT IN GARDENING, EVERYBODY WANTS TO SPELL ONCE A FERTILIZE, THE GARDEN WITH THEIR OWN MULCH AND U L C H.
WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER MULCH HERE AND THAT'S A FIVE LETTER WORD AND IT'S SPELLED M O N E Y.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN BUFORD COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE BENDON PLANTATION DEVELOPMENT.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING A CONCEPT, A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WITH, WITH, UH, WITH A BOTANICAL GARDEN OR, UH, A ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CENTER THAT MONEY WAS RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY.
TYPICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL, IT GOES THROUGH THE TREASURER WHO NOTIFIES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHO PERFECTS AN OR A RESOLUTION.
IF ANY OF THE MONEY IS RETURNED FROM TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ANOTHER RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WHERE THE, WHERE ARE THE COUNTY COUNCIL BOATS TO RETURN THE MONEY, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
THEREABOUTS WAS RECEIVED BY THE BUFORD COUNTY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WENT.
I WOULD SAY THAT IF A RESOLUTION HAD BEEN ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL COUNCIL, THEN THE CREDIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY WOULD HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED.
IN THIS INSTANCE, I AM COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY BESIDE MYSELF UNDERSTANDING THAT WHY IN THE WORLD HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE HAS NOT EVEN HEARD IT.
AND IT'S A VIOLATION OF YOUR OWN ORDINANCE, THE STATE LAW AND MY PERSONAL RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN UNDER THE FIFTH AND 14TH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION FOR DUE PROCESS AND EQUAL PROTECTION.
ANYONE ELSE SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS AND NO ACTION.
FURTHER TO COME BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:04 PM.