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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAVER COUNTY COUNSEL.
IT IS THURSDAY, AUGUST THE 19TH.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE
WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER, HOWARD COUNTY NUMBER LAWSON AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SOMERVILLE ARE IN CHAMBERS ONLINE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
HERVIS SEAN KELLY AND MYSELF COUNCIL NUMBER STREW, RODNEY.
THEREFORE HE IS, UH, WE DO HAVE A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT CONDUCT BUSINESS.
PUBLIC NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT WILL A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
PLEASE RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA.
UH, SO MOON WAS THE CHAIRMAN, BUT, UH, COUNCILMAN LAWSON IS NOT HERE EASY.
IT'S DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS STATED MR. DAWSON? UH, YES, WE ARE MISSING MR. DOS.
HE MAY BE COMING IN LINE, BUT WE STILL HAVE NUMEROUS PRESENT.
UM, THE AGENDA IS APPROVED WITHOUT THE OBJECTIONS.
UH WE'RE AFTER CITIZEN COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS OR ONLINE WHO HAS INDICATED THEY WISH TO REAGAN COMMENT? OKAY.
WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT SECTION.
WE ARE NOW AT THE DISCUSSION, YOUR ACTUAL ITEMS EARLIER TODAY, EMAILS FROM SARAH WITH ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL BE USED AS PART OF THIS MEETING.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN, BREACHING ASSOCIATES.
I'M GOING TO ASK OUR PUNY ADMINISTRATOR TO INTRODUCE, UM, PREACHING ASSOCIATES.
SO, UM, MR. GREENWAY, TAKE IT AWAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS AFTERNOON.
YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE A LOT OF DATA AND A LOT OF, UH, INFORMATION.
WE DO NOT EXPECT YOU ALL TO ABSORB ALL OF THIS TODAY.
I JUST GO A VERY, A FAIRLY LONG WORKSHOP.
UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ASKED US TO DO.
UH, STAFF HAS BEEN VISIBLY, UH, COMPLETING THOSE THINGS.
ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT WAS IN PROCESS BEFORE I CAME, UH, AND DRUM AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS THE STUDY THAT WAS BEING CARRIED OUT BY CREATURE ASSOCIATES.
WE HAVE BRENT AND BROOKE WITH US TODAY FROM CREECH AND ASSOCIATES.
THEY'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY, UH, IS BEEN A VERY MASSIVE UNDERTAKING FOR US TO, UH, DO THIS ALONG WITH THEM.
JARED FREIGHTLINER, MARK ROSEN, ALL HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, WORKING WITH THEM AND GIVING THEM GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION.
SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BRENT NOW, AND HE'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AND AS CAN, AS FACIALLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN, UM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ITEMS AFTER THEY FINISH UP AND ANT TRAINING QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.
SO FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND, UH, INTERRUPT AS NEEDED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU TO SHARE THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY.
UH, I'M GOING TO ASK YOUR FORGIVENESS IN ADVANCE AS WE CRAM SO MUCH DATA AND, UH, EIGHT MONTHS WORTH OF STUDY INTO AN HOUR'S WORTH OF MATERIAL FOR YOU TODAY.
I REITERATE WHAT ERIC JUST SAID.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK US QUESTIONS, UM,
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AS YOU GO.SO IT IS VERY WELL SORRY, AS WE RESOLVE OUR TECHNOLOGY.
UH, I WITH GREEKS ASSOCIATES, EXCITED TO BE HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON WITH ME TODAY IS REBAR AND IT WAS THE DEWBERRY, UH, OUR TWO FIRMS TEAM TOGETHER TO COMBINE OUR EXPERTISE, TO BRING YOU ALL THE ABSOLUTE BEST SET OF RESOURCES TO RESOLVE THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE OTHER FOLKS.
SO IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A LOT BIGGER UNDERTAKING THAN JUST THE TWO OF US COULD HANDLE ON OUR OWN.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO INTRODUCING THESE MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM TO YOU COMPLETE LATER, RIGHT? SO OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY IS REALLY ABOUT RUSHING TO GET TO THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.
I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE INTRO OF THE FRONT END THAT LED THROUGH OUR SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO SPEND THE BULK OF OUR TIME TODAY DISCUSSING THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS SLIDE.
SO AGAIN, UH, WE STARTED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, UH, AND LOOKING AT TRULY A COUNTY WIDE ASSESSMENT, 53 DEPARTMENTS SPREAD ACROSS 52 BUILDINGS.
WE HAVE FIVE COUNTY LOCATIONS THERE THAT'S JUST TERMS OF JURISDICTION.
OBVIOUSLY WE WERE SORT OF ACROSS THE ENTIRE FOOTPRINT AND WE REALLY ENJOY GETTING TO KNOW YOUR AREA, YOUR STAFF, THE OPERATIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND AGAIN, IT WAS A PRETTY BROAD UNDERTAKING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE REALLY BROKEN DOWN INTO CATEGORIZE, UH, THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE RESULTS OF TODAY.
THIS IS A LIST OF THOSE 53 DEPARTMENTS AND IT RANGES FROM EVERYTHING, UH, THE FULL JUSTICE SYSTEM, THE LIBRARY, ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS, AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY ARM OF THE COUNTY SERVICES.
AND AGAIN, IT'S THAT 53 AND 52 BUILDINGS SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 660,000.
SO A HUGE INVENTORY OF THE COUNTY.
SO IN TERMS, BECAUSE OF OUR PROCESS, UM, IT REALLY IS, UH, ONE THAT, THAT HAPPENS WITH LOUGHBOROUGH APPROACHES IN THE BEGINNING, AND THAT WE ARE STUDYING SIMULTANEOUSLY YOUR FACILITIES, HOW YOUR AREA IS GROWING.
UH, WE ARE INTERVIEWING YOUR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS CONVERGE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PREDOMINANTLY SHARE WITH YOU TODAY, WHICH IS THE RESULT OF THOSE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.
AND AFTER WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OF COURSE, WE DEVELOPED SOME BUDGETS FOR CAPITAL PLANNING AND THEN WORK TOWARDS OUR FINAL PART OF THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WAS DOING STAFF INTERVIEWS IS KEY COMPONENT OF THIS.
AND AGAIN, I THINK WE INTERVIEWED SOMEONE FROM AUTHENTI THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE 70 PLUS HOURS WORTH OF INTERVIEWS CONDUCTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE NEEDS.
AND IT WOULDN'T BE SURPRISING TO YOU THAT MOST OF THOSE HAD SOME NEED OR DEFICIENCY IN SPACE THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL.
SO, UH, I CAN SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME ON THIS, BUT WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS EFFECTIVELY.
WE USE DATASETS FROM THE PREVIOUS 10 YEARS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND A PROJECTION FOR THE NEXT 20 OR 30.
UH, IN THIS STUDY, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT A 30 YEAR HORIZON.
WE USE, UH, ALL THESE DATA SETS FROM THE U S CENSUS FROM THE COUNTY, AND YOU ALL HAD A STUDY DONE BY TISH THEIR BIKES REGIONALLY.
SO WE COMBINED ALL OF THOSE METRICS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ADEQUATELY PLAN FOR GROWTH AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW WHEN WE PLAN A CIVIC BUILDING, IT IS NEVER FOR TODAY.
SO HAVE BUILDINGS HAVE AN EXTENDED LIFE? WELL BEYOND EVEN 20 YEARS MOST OFTEN.
SO THIS SLIDE IS A SUMMARY OF GROWTH BY DEPARTMENTS.
SO IT TAKES ALL 53 OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND LIST THEM OUT IN TERMS OF THE 20, 20 NUMBER, AND THEN IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS THROUGHOUT THE 30 YEAR PROJECTION.
SO YOU CAN SEE AS A SUMMARY AT THE TOP THERE EFFECTIVELY THAT YIELDED 30 NEW PER YEAR.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT THAT'S SPREAD ACROSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICES.
AND AGAIN, OVER THE SPAN OF 30 YEARS, THAT WASN'T A 1.7 ANNUAL, UH, GROWTH OR 60%.
SO THAT WAS WHAT THE METRICS FROM OUR FORECAST YIELDED IN TERMS OF OVERALL NUMBER FOR THE STUDY.
WELL, YOU DID GROUP, UM, ASSESSMENT.
DID YOU TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, UM, TECHNOLOGY? WE DID.
AND WE ALSO, UH, ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT COVID THAT WE WILL SHARE AT THE END AS WELL, JUST IN TERMS OF LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW OTHER WORKSPACES COULD BE IMPLICATED BY THAT.
BUT WE DID DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT REMOTE WORK AND TELEWORK AND ALL THOSE COMPONENTS, I ASSUME.
THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN BY TAKING OFF.
SO WE WENT THROUGH A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS, AND AGAIN, IT'S A SLIDE WITH A BUNCH OF NUMBERS ON IT.
I WANT TO TRY AND SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU.
SO EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS YIELDED A SET OF NEEDS.
AND ONCE WE MET WITH THEIR STAFF AND UNDERSTOOD HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY WERE, WHAT THEIR SUPPORT SPACES WERE LIKE,
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WHAT THEY HAVE TODAY, WHAT THEY WILL NEED IN THE FUTURE.WE'VE BROKEN THAT DOWN INTO THESE CATEGORIES.
AND CURRENT EXISTING IS THE FOOTPRINT THAT THEY OCCUPIED TODAY.
THAT'S THAT COLUMN ON THE LEFT CURRENT PROPOSED IS WHAT THOSE SAME DEPARTMENTS WOULD OCCUPY BASED ON OUR MODEL FOR TODAY.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WOULD MAKE UP FOR ANY OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT THEY HAD IN SPACE NEEDS FOR TODAY.
AND THAT FUTURE PROPOSED COLUMN ADDS THAT 30 YEAR HORIZON THAT WE TALKED ABOUT RELATIVE TO HOW THE, HOW THE POPULATION AND STAFF RESOURCES WILL GROW IN PARALLEL.
SO YOU SEE A CURRENT EXISTING WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, CURRENT PROPOSED, WHAT THOSE SAME FUNCTIONS SHOULD HAVE TODAY AND FUTURE PROPOSED HOW WE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND NOT SURPRISING.
IT ENDS UP SOMEWHERE AROUND DOUBLE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A TRUE 30 YEAR HORIZON, WHAT THAT SAYS AGAIN, REMEMBER WE TALKED ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU'RE IN AROUND 662,000 SQUARE FEET AND TO PLAN FOR TODAY'S NEEDS AND 30 YEARS OUT, OUR STUDY YIELDED 1.19 MILLION GROSS SQUARE FEET.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT QUITE DOUBLE, BUT IT'S IN THAT ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, A LOT OF BIG NUMBERS, AND OF COURSE NOT ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN AT ONE TIME.
SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF SOME SMALLER PIECES AS WE BREAK THIS DOWN, SORT OF BY LOCATION FOR YOU IN THE MASTER PLAN, STUDY A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE, COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT CURRENT PROPOSED MEANS AND FUTURE PROPOSED MEANS? SORRY.
SO WHEN WE UNDERTAKE A SPACE NEEDS STUDY, THE FIRST QUESTION WE'RE ALWAYS ASKED IS, WELL, WHAT DO THEY HAVE NOW? OKAY.
SO THAT IS THE COLUMN ON THE LEFT, RIGHT? CURRENT PROPOSED IS TAKING THOSE SAME DEPARTMENTS AND, UH, STAFF WORKLOADS AND SUPPORT SPACES AND PUTTING THEM IN OUR MODEL, WHICH SAYS THESE ARE THE SIZE OF THESE SPACES SHOULD BE IN OTHER WORDS, BASED ON CURRENT AND NATIONAL PLANNING AND METRIC STANDARDS.
SO IT SORT OF ACCOUNTS FOR THE DEFICIENCIES THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SPACE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TODAY.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
IT ANSWERS EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE FUTURE PROPOSED, I JUST MENTIONED IN TERMS OF CURRENT PROPOSED IS WHAT IT WOULD BE TODAY WITHOUT ACCOUNTING FOR THE FUTURE NEEDS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE FUTURE PROPOSED ADS, ALL ON THOSE SPACES REQUIRED TO ACCOUNT FOR 30 YEARS WORTH GROWTH.
30 YEARS WORTH OF GROWTH ONLY GOES FROM 11, 12 TO 1199.
AND THE REASON THAT IS THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE WHEN WE PLAN FOR GROWTH, THE GROWTH IS MOSTLY, UH, IDENTIFIED IN STAFF SPACES BECAUSE WHEN YOU PLAN FOR FACILITIES AND YOU PLAN FOR THEIR GROWTH, YOU SIZE THE CORE OF THOSE FACILITIES FOR THE ULTIMATE OCCUPANT LOAD.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING THERE? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WOULDN'T COME BACK AND NECESSARILY ADD CORE FACILITIES.
YOU WOULD PLAN THE EXPANSION SO THAT THE STAFF COULD BE BROUGHT ON BOARD.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT DELTA IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, BUT WE'RE REALLY THAT DEFICIENT TODAY ALMOST BY HALF WHAT THE STUDY YIELDED.
AND, AND, AND TO BUILD ON THAT, AND IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UH, OUR, OUR MISSION IS NOT TO GENERATE LARGE NUMBERS.
OUR MISSION IS TO BE UBER EFFICIENT IN THIS PROCESS AND, AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE, UH, YOU KNOW, EXERCISE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SHARE WAYS, TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO SUGGEST SPACES, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN BE USED FLEXIBLY, UM, SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.
AND A QUESTION YOU STOPPED BECAUSE BASICALLY ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, NOT SO MUCH CONDITIONS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND WE DID DO A VISUAL CONDITIONS, ASSESSMENT, AN ACTUAL FACILITY CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT IN TERMS OF GETTING INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF STRUCTURE AND SYSTEMS WAS NOT A PART OF THIS STUDY, BUT OF COURSE, IF WE VISUALLY OBSERVED ANYTHING THAT FELT LIKE IT NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT UP, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AS PART OF THIS SCOPE.
THE OTHER QUESTION BREAK, DISCUSSION.
SO FINALLY, WE GET TO THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.
UH, THIS WAS DONE IN A NARRATIVE FORMAT, AND I WANT TO GO THROUGH THESE BECAUSE NOT EVERY PROJECT HAS A MASTER PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU ALL HAVE SOME FACILITIES THAT ACTUALLY FUNCTION QUITE WELL AND DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT LEVEL OF ATTENTION.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE KIND OF AT A HIGH LEVEL, AND REMEMBER THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO A LOT OF THESE AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT ROUND OF EXHIBITS.
SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN HERE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF THIS STUDY IS SHOULD THIS FACILITY BE REPLACED AND SHOULD IT BE REPLACED SOMEWHERE ON THIS CAMPUS? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER, UH, THE, UH, BLUFFTON LOCATION IN TERMS OF THE MARBLE MYRTLE PARK, UM, THAT SITE WAS PLANNED FOR AN ADDITION BUILDING THE WAY IT WAS MASTER PLAN.
SO IF SERVICES NEEDED TO GROW THERE, AND THAT SEEMED LIKE A LOGICAL SOLUTION, UH, THE HILTON HEAD FACILITY IS KIND OF WIDE RANGE OF OPTIONS INSIDE OF IT.
IT'S A REALLY CRITICAL FOOTPRINT WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF WAYS TO ALLOW THE FUNCTIONS THAT NEED TO EXPAND THERE TO DO SO, WHICH PERHAPS MEANS A FEW OF THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE SORT OF LANDED THERE OVER TIME EITHER TO RELOCATE TO THE OTHER FACILITIES.
UM, WE'LL TALK SOME MORE ABOUT THAT.
AGAIN, THE HUMAN SERVICES AND BLUFFTON, UH, AT THE A AND D IS REALLY NEEDED TO EXPAND, UH, INTO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AT MYRTLE PARK, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS TO, AGAIN, ADD ON TO THAT SECOND
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ADMINISTRATIVE BILLING THERE.AND IN HILTON HEAD, THE HUMAN SERVICES COMPONENT, THE DSN AND VETERANS AFFAIRS, THEY REALLY ARE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS WITHIN THAT EXISTING GOVERNMENT CENTER THERE YOU'LL SEE IN OUR PLANS THAT WE, WE, WE TRUST THEM EXPANSION.
HOW ABOUT WORKS AND FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE AND BUFFER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ALL BEEN OUT THERE AND SEEN THAT FACILITY.
I WILL SAY THAT IT'S ABOUT CONSOLIDATION OF SERVICES WITH, ON THAT SITE.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL GET INTO THE LOGISTICS OF HOW THAT CAN BE INFORMED IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S PLANNED SO THAT THINGS CAN STAY OPERATIONAL.
PUBLIC WORKS ALSO HAS A FOOTPRINT IN BROMPTON, UH, PRETTY WONDERFUL LOCATION FOR SERVICES THAT WILL BE SOME ADDITIONS MADE, UH, TO, TO ADD ON FOR THEIR NEEDS OVER TIME.
UH, AND I THINK WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEIR OFFICE SPACES ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY SOME OTHER COLLECTIONS THAT MIGHT FIND A BETTER HOMES ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ADDING A MERV TO THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SITE RECORDS.
MANAGEMENT IS A PRETTY AMAZING FACILITY.
OF COURSE, WE WOULD INTEND FOR THAT TO STAY, UH, PARKS AND RECS ADMINISTRATION.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES AT BOTH WALTER AND VERT.
WELLS AND STORAGE IS A HUGE COMPONENT FOR THEM, AS IT OFTEN IS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND PATROL HAS A WONDERFUL FACILITY THINK THE WAY THOSE SERVICES ARE BEING DELIVERED IS CHANGING.
UH, CERTAINLY, UH, WITHOUT ANY NEEDS THERE.
UM, THE CORONER HAS A PRETTY NICE FACILITY THAT WAS CUSTOMIZED FOR HIM.
HE'S VERY HAPPY THERE AND, UH, THEY WOULD INTEND ON STAYING AS WELL.
UH, OUR LIBRARY STUDY WAS INTERESTING, BUT DOES IT ACTUALLY PARALLEL ON MASTER PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAD DONE RECENTLY? AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE USED THAT AS A BASIS AND WORKING WITH LIBRARY STAFF TO SCALE THAT UP APPROPRIATELY, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE BEYOND THAT STUFF, LECTURES AND VOTER REGISTRATION, UH, OVER IN BIB, UH, SEEMS TO BE PRETTY WELL LOCATED IN TERMS OF STRATEGICALLY, THEY HAVE THAT GOOD STORAGE.
THEY DIDN'T NEED SOME STUFF, LIGHT OFFICES, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT, OKAY, BMS. UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT A NEW EMS STATION, UH, AS OPPOSED TO BEING SORT OF CO-LOCATED WITHIN THE WAREHOUSE.
UM, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE AT THE MOMENT AS THE LOCATION SORT OF SHIFTED AROUND AND THOUGHT, UH, LADIES ISLAND AIRPORT, TO BE SPECIFIC, IT SAYS AIRPORT GENERICALLY, THAT'S NOT THE ELEVATOR, OR THAT WAS THE LADY'S ISLAND AIRPORT.
WE DID SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT A NEED FOR A NEW TERMINAL AND SOME ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE SPACES, BUT THAT'S PRETTY WELL OPERATIONAL FACILITY.
OF COURSE, THEN WE GET INTO SORT OF THE JUSTICE COMPONENTS, WHICH IS LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER AND SPECIAL OPS I'LL TOUCH ON THESE BRIEFLY.
AND AGAIN, I THINK BROKE HERE IS GOING TO BE THE EXPERT ON THAT.
AND WE'LL SHARE MORE DETAILS ON THOSE WHEN WE GET INTO THOSE COMPONENTS LATER, BUT A NEW LAC, EITHER DOWNTOWN OFFSITE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR THAT SPECIAL OPS HAS A WONDERFUL LOCATION THAT SERVES HIM VERY WELL, I THINK IS WE WOULD WANT TO ALLOW THAT TO REMAIN IN SITU WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL BUILDING HERE DOWNTOWN AS A FOOTPRINT IN THE INVENTORY THAT MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER USE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE DETENTION CENTER AS A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS AS WELL.
UM, IT HAS A FOOTPRINT HERE, RIGHT ON THIS CAMPUS AND ITS ADJACENCIES.
THE COURSE IS A HUGE FUNCTION OF THAT.
I JUST TOUCHED ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE COURTS WHO HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS REQUIRED TO STAY IN THE COUNTY SEAT.
AND THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
THERE'S SO MUCH SYNERGY HERE WITH COURSE AND DETENTION ON THE SAME SITE.
IT'S A REALLY TOUGH, UH, SYNERGY TO DISRUPT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE COURTS, AFFILIATED FUNCTIONS, UH, PPP DJJ, AND ALL OF THOSE, THOSE ARE FUNCTIONS BEST SUITED IF THEY'RE NEAR THE COURTHOUSE, OBVIOUSLY.
SO PART OF THE SOLUTION WILL COME FROM THAT.
YOU SEE THERE MAGISTRATE COURT IN BLUFFTON, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LARGER FACILITY FOR THEM, UH, THE PROBATE COURT IN BLUFFTON AS WELL.
UM, I THINK WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THAT EVEN AS WE SPEAK.
AND IN TERMS OF THE PROBATE COURT IN HILTON HEAD, THERE, THERE'S SOME REAL, TANGIBLE REASONS FOR THAT TO NEED TO STAY WHERE IT IS DESPITE THAT BUILDING SPACE BEING CHALLENGED.
AND I THINK WE'LL GET INTO THIS.
THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH ME THROUGH THAT NARRATIVE.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THAT IS NOW WE WILL HAVE TALKED ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING WITHIN THE SUITE OF SERVICES AND NO ONE WILL PULL YOUR MIC OVER A LITTLE CLOSER.
JUST PULL THE WHOLE THING AROUND WHERE YOU GET A CLUSTER.
SO LET'S FOCUS ON THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS AS THE FIRST ONE OF THE STUDY AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO IN DETAIL.
UM, HERE ARE THOSE NINE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS, EMS HEADQUARTERS.
PUBLIC WORKS, THE GOVERNMENT CENTER SOUTH SOLID WASTE, THE SEA TRIAL SITE, WHICH HAS BEEN A FUN STUDY, UH, THE LEC, UH, OPENING SITE, SPECIAL OPS, AND THEN, UH, GOVERNMENT CENTER SOUTH.
SO LOTS OF LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO I'LL START ON THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS.
YOU HAVE THOSE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 BUILDINGS AS ARTHUR HORN IS COUNTED IN THAT INVENTORY.
YOU CAN SEE THERE WHAT THAT TOTAL INVENTORY IS HERE ON SITE EXISTS AROUND 240,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, YOU DO HAVE EXISTING PARKING AND TOTAL OF 656 SPACES.
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YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS HERE.YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
IT'S A WONDERFUL LOCATION RIGHT HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN.
YOU HAVE AN INTERSECTION THAT'S SORT OF THE KEY, THE KEY INTERSECTION.
YOU'RE DEVELOPING IN AN AREA THAT IS GOVERNED BY OTHER GUIDELINES FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE BOUNDARY STREET REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH SORT OF TOUCHES ON THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.
AND REALLY YOU CAN SEE THE IDEA THERE THAT WAS BEING PROMOTED AS BEING, BRINGING BUILDINGS TO THE EDGE OF THE STREET AND TUCKING PARKING AND HIDING ALL OF THOSE THINGS BEHIND.
SO IT'S JUST ABOUT PROMOTING SORT OF THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT.
AND YES, THE SITE HAS, UH, SOME FEMA CONSTRAINTS AND YOU CAN SORT OF SEE THAT THERE, THIS IS THE UPDATED MAP.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THAT IS, IS THE AREA THAT'S WITHIN THAT GRAY, THE 1% CHANCES IN THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT, IT'S AN AREA FOR PARKING.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT SORT OF MITIGATES ANY OF THOSE CHALLENGES AS WE SEE THEM AS THEY CONTINUE ON THIS SITE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT ALL ARE WE PLANNING ON THIS SITE? AND HERE IS A PROGRAM THAT BEGINS TO LIST THOSE OUT.
SO YOU SEE THERE, WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, A NEW ADMINISTRATION, YOU SEE A SIZE AND ALL OF THOSE FACTORS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS FACILITY, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER FUNCTIONS AND THAT YIELDED A SIZE.
THEN WE HAVE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER AND YOU SEE OVER THERE SOME OPTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING THAT IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, BUT ITS SIZE IS CONSISTENT.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMPONENT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE JUDICIAL CENTER COMPONENTS THERE.
AND AGAIN, IT INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE COURTS THEMSELVES, BUT ALL OF THOSE COURT AFFILIATED AGENCIES LIKE DJJ AND PPP THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER, PUBLIC DEFENDER.
SO THAT'S THEIR ENTIRE SUITE OF JUDICIAL CENTER SPACES.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE DETENTION CENTER.
SO ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THEORY ARE ON THIS SITE RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY FIT IN THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT WE LOOKED AT WITHIN THAT, UH, 264,000 SOME ODD SQUARE FEET.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, THEY NEED MUCH MORE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE MASTER PLAN EXERCISE BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT, COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHY SOME OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE, UH, JUST ONE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER AND THE OTHER, AND SOME HAVE THREE OPTIONS AND SOME DON'T SURE.
I THINK THAT'S RELATED TO CERTAIN OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT AFFORDED DIFFERENT BUILDING SIZES.
IN OTHER WORDS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE JUDICIAL CENTER OPTIONS YOU'LL SEE IS TO EXPAND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.
THERE WAS MORE ROOM THERE SO WE COULD GET A DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN WE COULD IF WE APPROACHED THE ADDITION IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO THAT LEADS JUST THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE EXISTING SITE SOMETIMES, UM, DICTATE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AREA THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S GREAT QUESTION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THREE OPTIONS FOR THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS AND I APOLOGIZE, CAUSE THERE IS A TON OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS KIND OF START WITH THE DRIVERS BECAUSE ANYTIME WE WORK ON A MASTER PLAN, THERE ARE ALWAYS SORT OF RULES OF THE ROAD THAT WE START WITH.
UH, ONE OF THE RULES THAT THIS OPTION TRIED TO HOLD TO WAS TO KEEP EVERYTHING WEST OF REBUILT.
SO EVERYTHING ON CAMPUS, PROPER CURRENTLY, UM, ADMINISTRATION CORE FUNCTIONS, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE FIGURED OUT WHAT HAVE TO COME OFF SITE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WHY THAT'S LISTED OVER THERE.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IS PARKING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DRIVES YOUR ABILITY TO MAXIMIZE DEVELOPMENT IS SURFACE PARKING VERSUS STRUCTURE.
AND WE DECIDED AS A TEAM THAT STRUCTURED PARKING BECAUSE OF COSTS AND OTHER REASONS WAS A, WAS IT APPROACH THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO STAY AWAY FROM IF WE COULD AND TEST WHAT THE SCOPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS WITHOUT REQUIRING OURSELVES TO MOVE INTO THAT DIRECTION.
AND SO THAT IS A CONSTRAINT, EXCUSE ME, A CONSTRAINT THAT WE HELD AS WE WORKED THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.
AND THAT'S TRUE OF ALL THREE OPTIONS.
NOW THESE OPTIONS HAVE SIMILARITIES.
AND THE REASON THEY HAVE SIMILARITIES IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON MOVING THE COURTS BUILDING OR THE DETENTION CENTER.
UM, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONSISTENCIES, BUT WE HAVE SOME NUANCE IN TERMS OF HOW THE OTHER PIECES CAN BE FORMED AROUND THEM THAT WE WANT TO SPEAK TO.
SO IN OPTION ONE, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING PLAN AT THE CORNER OF BOUNDARY AND REBUILT.
UM, THAT WILL BE A WONDERFUL FACADE THAT BEGINS TO OCCUPY THAT CORNER AND SORT OF, UH, THAT CIVIC PRESENCE THAT THE CITY ALSO HAS.
YOU KNOW, AT THAT INTERSECTION, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE EXPANDING PARKING BEYOND BEHIND THAT.
ONE OF THE COMMONALITIES IN THIS OPTION IS TO CONVERT WHAT THAT ABOVE GROUND DETENTION IS TO UNDERGROUND IN THIS LOCATION, WHICH ALLOWS US TO INCREASE PARKING IN THAT AREA AND STILL BE SHIELDED BY THE BUILDINGS.
THAT'S A GREAT TRADE-OFF FOR STRUCTURE PARKING AS A SOLUTION FOR ADDITIONAL SPACES YOU CAN SEE IN THESE DIAGRAMS CONSISTENTLY THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SORT OF SHADED IN THAT BUFF COLOR ARE EXISTING.
THE AREAS THAT ARE RED INDICATE NEW FACILITIES, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF SPACES THAT RUN DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE OVER THERE THAT SORT OF GIVE YOU ALL THOSE RELATIVE SIZES, BUT WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE OF INTEREST IN TIME JUST TO GO THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN IN GENERAL.
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RIGHT? SO YOU SEE THE NEW ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING THAT'S OUT ON THE CORNER.BROOKE, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND SPEAK TO THE JUDICIAL COMPONENTS ON SITE? SURE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE JUST, AS YOU MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF REBEL ROAD, UH, THERE IS THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND IT'S NEW BECAUSE IF YOU MOVE SOUTH, THE EXISTING ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT'S IN BUFF IS ACTUALLY HOUSING, DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.
SO THE SOLICITOR AND PPP PUBLIC DEFENDER, AND, UM, THE ALTERNATE FOR THE, UH, JUVENILE DETENTION GROUP WOULD BE IN THERE.
WE WANTED TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THIS CAMPUS, AS HE'S ALREADY MENTIONED, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN SUCH AN INVESTMENT FOR THE CO-LOCATION OF THE COURTS AND THE DETENTION CENTER SEPARATING.
THOSE ARE MOVING THOSE ADS IN A LOT OF, UM, TRANSPORTATION COSTS A LOT, A LOT OF OTHER RIPPLE EFFECTS THAT WILL HAPPEN.
SO KEEPING THE DETENTION CENTER AS IT IS, IF WE MOVE TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT A LOT LINE FOR KEEPING, UM, AS MUCH OF THE DETENTION CENTER AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN WE'RE ADDING ON TO IT WITH A NEW THREE-STORY DETENTION, UM, IN RED.
AND THEN WE'RE STILL KEEPING THE CO CO-LOCATION WITH THE COURTS.
WE'RE ADDING IT TO BECOME MORE OF A COURTS COMPLEX INTO YOUR IN DOWNTOWN BUFORD.
WE ARE TRANSITIONING BY HAVING AN ANNEX, WHICH IS KIND OF THE LITTLE RED BOX IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING COURT BUILDING THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE TOP LEFT, UM, AND THEN THE DETENTION CENTER.
SO IT'S AN ANNEX THAT ALLOWS FOR, UM, THE BOND COURT TO BE THERE.
AND THEN IT ALSO CONNECTS TO THE NEW, UH, THREE-STORY HORN BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
AND IT'S LOOKING AT THE FUNCTIONS WITHIN THERE AND MOVING THE MAGISTRATE COURT AND THE FAMILY COURT AND THE, UM, FAMILY IN THE MASTER BATH.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, SO YOU'LL ADD ON TO THE DETENTION CENTER.
IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT DOUBLES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, THE NEW WAY OF THINKING ABOUT DETENTION AND TREATMENT, THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, NATIONALLY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS EQUATE TO MORE PROGRAM AND TREATMENT FUNCTIONS, WHEREAS EXISTING DETENTION CENTERS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT OR HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS, DON'T HAVE THOSE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS.
AND SO IT'S HELPING TO EXPEDITE, UM, PEOPLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, AS WELL AS GIVING YOU A, A MORE HEALTHY COMMUNITY ASSET.
THIS OTHER BUILDING WHERE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS NOW WOULD COME, IT WOULD BE DEMOED IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE LOT, UM, AND REALLY TO KEEP THE DETENTION CENTER THERE AND PROVIDE FOR THE CURRENT NEEDS THAT IT HAS AS WELL AS 30 YEARS OUT.
UM, THAT WAS THE BEST OPTION FOR OPTION ONE.
AND YOU'LL SEE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
I NOTICED THAT ACROSS THE STREET OR ACROSS REBUILT ROAD, YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED A LAW INCEST LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, A POSSIBILITY, IS THAT WHAT IT IS IT POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT RED.
SO THAT MEANS IT'S NOT A NEW BUILDING.
IT'S JUST SAYING, IF WE CAN'T KEEP IT ON THE LEFT SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF REBUILT ROAD, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR IT TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN OPTION ONE.
UM, IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT COLD LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER OF BUFORD OR WHETHER IT ACTUALLY WANTS TO MOVE OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER DISCUSSION WE HAD IN, IN TERMS OF ACCESS, RESPONSE TIME, ALL OF THOSE THINGS BEING DOWNTOWN, UM, IT LIMITS RESPONSE TIME IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS FOR THE OFFICERS.
CAN I CIRCLE BACK PORCH? AND WE BOUGHT HERE, UM, BROAD COURT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO START WITH.
COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE PLAN IS WITH REGARD TO A TOWN THAT LIKE YOU WERE MOVING ON FOR OUT OF THE DETENTION CENTER? IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT IS IN THE DETENTION CENTER.
WE BE CO-LOCATING IT TO BE MORE OUTSIDE THE SECURE PERIMETER ONCE WE'RE BUILDING ONTO THE EXISTING DETENTION CENTER.
SO WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY CO LOCATED, WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE IT TO MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL AS WELL AS KEEP, UM, THE SECURE PERIMETER THAT'S NEEDED FOR THAT TYPE OF DETENTION CENTER.
WOULD IT STILL BE CONNECTED TO THE DETENTION CENTER? UM, SO IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THIS DIAGRAM, BUT IN BETWEEN THE TWO, BOTH COLORS, MEANING THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE AND THE EXISTING DETENTION CENTER, THERE IS A CONNECTING, UM, CORRIDOR.
AND, UM, SO IT STILL KEEPS A CONNECTION TO BOTH TO THE BOND COURT OR TO THE COURTHOUSE.
THERE THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED WITH THE DETENTION CENTER AND THE BOND COURT, NOT THE COURTHOUSE, THEY ARE ALL CONNECTED.
SO RIGHT NOW IT IS CO LOCATED TO CONNECT TO THE DETENTION CENTER, MEANING THE BOND COURT AND THE DETENTION CENTER ARE CONNECTED AS WELL AS BEING CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE.
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OF ACCESS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE FROM THE DETENTION CENTER WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OUTSIDE.UH, COULD YOU THEN GO OVER AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROBATE JUDGE, THE MAGISTRATE'S COURT AND WHAT YOUR PROPOSAL WAS FOR THAT? SURE.
SO YOUR EXISTING BUFORD COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN BUFF, UM, HOW HAS THIS, MOST OF THESE OPERATIONS, A LOT OF THEM ARE UNDERSIZED AND A LOT OF THEM DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE ADJACENCIES NEEDED BECAUSE IT IS AN OLDER COURTHOUSE WITH PREVIOUS, UM, PREVIOUS DESIGN FROM A PAST TIMES AND THE COURT PROCESS HAS BEEN, UH, MODERNIZED.
AND SO IT'S LOOKING AT BRINGING THOSE ADJACENCIES TOGETHER, UM, LIMITING THE, UH, CIRCULATION IN THE COURTHOUSE TO CREATE A SAFER, UM, COURTHOUSE IN GENERAL FOR THE STAFF, BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER CONCERN.
AND THEN IT, UH, SO IN THIS OPTION INSIDE THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE, UH, BUFORD COUNTY COURTHOUSE, WE'RE KEEPING THE GRAND JURY, THE JURY ASSEMBLY PROBATE ON THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST ACCESSIBLE, THAT'S MORE PUBLIC AND WE'RE MOVING THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CIRCUIT CLERK UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEN WE'RE MOVING OUT, UM, THE FAMILY COURT AND THE FAMILY CLERK AND THE MASTER OF EQUITY, AS WELL AS MAGISTRATE TO THE EAST.
IF YOU SEE THAT DARKER RED CORRIDOR THAT CONNECTS TO THE THREE-STORY NEW HORN BUILDING.
SO WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING STAFF ACCESS AND, UM, AND, AND AN INTERNAL WAY TO, UH, CIRCULATE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
BUT WE ARE MORE ASSIGNING THE FUNCTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADJACENT TOGETHER APPROPRIATELY WITHIN SPACES.
ACTUALLY IT WOULD BE MOVING THE MAGISTRATES IN THE OFF OF WARRENVILLE MOVES WITH DIFFERENT FACILITY.
WE ARE MOVING THEM FROM THE EXISTING, UH, BUFORD COUNTY COURTHOUSE TO THE NEW THREE-STORY HORN BUILDING.
THAT'S JUST TO THE EAST, NOT IN THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE MOMENT.
YOU'RE IN THE ART, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE YOU'RE MOVING.
THE FAMILY COURT AND FAMILY CLERK ARE CURRENTLY IN THE EXISTING BUFORD COUNTY COURTHOUSE, AS WELL AS MAGISTRATE HAS AN OFFICE THERE.
AND MASTER OF EQUITY ALSO HAS AN OFFICE THERE, SO NOT JUST STRAIGHT TO THE HALL.
SO ARE YOU MOVING THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE? WHERE THEY STAYING? ARE WE GOING HAVE MAGISTRATE THAT IN THIS PLAN, THE MAGISTRATE IS STAYING IN OUR LITTLE HORN AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
WE'LL MOVE INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, ALLOWING THE MAGISTRATE COURT PROGRAM AND FAMILY CLERK AND MASTER OF EQUITY TO ALL RESIDE WITHIN THE NEW ARTHUR HORN BUILDING.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? PERFECT.
I ASKED YOU A QUESTION PLEASE.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER? UH, AND WHERE IS IT LOCATED ON THIS CAMPUS SITE? OPTION ONE.
SO THE CURRENT LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER IS WHAT DOES THAT SAY? 20,863 GROSS SQUARE FEET.
YOU CAN SEE IT LABELED, IT'S THE SORT OF RIGHT THERE NEXT TO DUKE STREET AT THE BOTTOM, SORT OF NEXT TO THE DETENTION POD.
SO THEN OPTION ONE, IT IS GOING TO BE REPLACED BY THE DETENTION DETENTION CENTER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
AND SO THE, IF IT'S NOT OFF SITE, IT WOULD GO WHERE YOU'RE SHOWING THAT IN OPTION TWO, UNLESS IT GOES ENTIRELY OFF SITE, SOME PLACE ELSE OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING.
UM, IS THERE A PREFERENCE, UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT OFF SITE AND TALKING TO THE SHERIFF AND HIS PEOPLE, IS THERE A PREFERENCE FROM HIM AS TO WHERE HE FEELS YOU SHOULD BE LOCATED? THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF CONVERSATION OVER THE LAST, UM, YEAR, UH, IN MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS AND INTERVIEWS WITH THEM.
UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT OPINIONS, UH, BECAUSE IF WE KEEP IT DOWNTOWN, PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
UM, THERE'S ALREADY, UH, STAFF ARE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, COMING TO THIS AREA, BUT THE RESPONSE TIME, UM, TO EMERGENCIES GETTING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN A DRIVER FOR LOOKING AT OTHER SPOTS, BEING, UM, THE ABILITY TO BE SOMEWHERE NEAR THE INTERSTATE TO INCREASE THE RESPONSE TIME WITHIN BUFORD COUNTY, UM,
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AS WELL AS COST.SO, UM, DOWNTOWN IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN LOOKING ELSEWHERE.
UM, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING STORY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHERE TWO STORY WITH PARKING UNDER THAT, IF IT'S TRUE STORY AND PARKING UNDER THAT IS THAT IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THAT PARKING THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, IT WOULD BE.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT, UM, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE TOUCHED ON THE, THE DOWNTOWN HAS AN OVERLAY FOR PARKING, WHICH IS ONE PER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, WHICH PROMOTES LESS PARKING.
THAT'S A GREAT THING FROM AN URBAN FOOTPRINT THAT IS NOT ALWAYS AN OPERATIONAL METRIC WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF SPACES THAT UNIQUE, IT MAY NOT BE REALISTIC.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CONTINGENCIES THAT WE BUILT INTO THIS PLAN TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
SO QUESTION ACTUALLY TWO QUESTIONS.
IF IT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING AND YOU MAKE IT A TWO-STORY BUILDING, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE IN THE THIRD STORY THAT NOW ISN'T GOING TO BE THERE.
AND THE SECOND THING IS WHAT IS THE FUTURE THREE STORY BUILDING THAT IS BEING POSED, BUT IS USAGE OF THAT TWO GREAT QUESTIONS.
UH, AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE RELATED BECAUSE IF YOU DID, IF IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THREE STORIES WAS THE LIMIT BASED ON ZONING, AND WE WANTED A FLOOR OF PARKING BENEATH, THEN THAT FUTURE FOOTPRINT BECOMES PART OF THE SOLUTION THAT WAS ENVISIONED AS, AS ANOTHER PAD FOR ANOTHER BUILDING, WE WOULD ASSUME THAT TO BE ANOTHER CIVIC BUILDING, BECAUSE THIS IS NOW DEVELOPING OUT AS YOUR CIVIC CAMPUS.
AND SO PART, FRANKLY, PART OF THE SOLUTION COULD BE A PHASING WHERE YOU BUILD A NEW ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING OF 60,000 SQUARE FEET WITH PARKING BELOW.
AND AS THE NEEDS GROW OVER TIME, YOU HAVE THAT PAD NEXT DOOR TO EXPAND INTO AT A LATER FUTURE PHASE.
DOES THAT MAKE OKAY? VERY GOOD.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ONE MORE QUESTION.
I'M GOING TO COURT WHEN YOU MOVE THE MASK AND THE FAMILY JUDGES, JUDGE, WILL YOU ALSO BE CONSTRUCTING ADDITIONAL COURTROOM CLEMENS NICOLE ON THIRD FLOOR? YEAH.
ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, WE WOULD BE RECONFIGURING SOME OF THE BEAVER COUNTY COURTHOUSE TOO.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING INSIDE THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE, WOULD WE BE RECONFIGURING,
WILL YOU BE BUILDING ADDITIONAL COURTROOM ON THE THIRD? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.
AND REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.
AND THE REASON THAT MAKES SENSE IS BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT COURTS ON THIS BUILDING.
SO THE COLUMN SPACING AND THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED FROM A BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE ARE IN PLACE SO THAT YOU COULD ADD FOUR ROOMS, THAT ONE STACK NOW THE BIGGEST CONSTRAINT WITHIN THAT, I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE THIRD FLOOR IN THAT BUILDING RELATIVE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PUSH AND PULL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE AS WE LOOK AT SOLUTIONS IN THIS REGARD.
BUT YEAH, SORRY, WHEN YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST THE ADEQUACY OF THE TWO COURTROOMS ON THE FIRST AND WE GET THE TERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THEY ARE CONSIDERED ANYONE.
WE LOOKED, WE WERE GIVEN THE EXISTING FLOOR PLANS FOR THE NEW BUILDING AND WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHETHER THOSE COURTROOMS ACTUALLY FIT THE NEED FOR THE MAGISTRATE AND IT WAS A GOOD FIT ACTUALLY.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REASONING FOR US.
ACTUALLY MY OPINION IS IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT.
AND HAVE YOU BEEN OVER TO THE FINISH? CORRECT? WE HAVEN'T FINISHED ONE FINAL QUESTION.
UM, IN ALL OF THESE SCENARIOS, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING IS ON THIS SITE.
HAS IT EVER BEEN CONSIDERED THAT ADMINISTRATION WOULD MOVE TO AN ENTIRELY NEW LOCATION? ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.
UM, AS A PART OF THE STUDY, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE SORT OF BUILT A GROUP OF SERVICES OUT AT BIB, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THINGS POP, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CONGLOMERATED OVER TIME.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY CENTER AND WHAT THAT COULD OFFER.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE KEPT COMING DOWN TO IS THIS KIND OF OPPORTUNITY TO CONSOLIDATE ALL OF YOUR SERVICES AND THE EFFICIENCY THAT THAT BRINGS,
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AND THAT SEEMED TO WIN OUT OVER MOVING ADMINISTRATION OFF THE SITE.YOU ALSO SORT OF HAVE THE PROPERTY FOR IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE LAC FOR AN EXAMPLE IS A MUCH LARGER FOOTPRINT.
UH, IT WOULD NEED A LARGER AREA, BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT IS ONE THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY WELL SUITED FOR THIS SITE.
SO WHAT YOU WILL, YOU WILL NOT SEE AN OPTION FROM US TODAY THAT HAS AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING LOCATED OTHER THAN HERE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, AS A FUTURE INITIATIVE TAKES HOLD, WE WERE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE SERVICES ON THE SITE AND REALLY LEVERAGE THE INVESTMENT THAT WAS ALREADY NO, THIS, THIS IS JUST CREATING A WONDERFUL DIALOGUE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THESE SAT DOWN AND LOOKED AT THESE, UM, WITHOUT YOUR PRESENTING INFORMATION AND AS YOU PRESENT INFORMATION, YEAH.
ALLAYS MY FEARS IN SOME AREAS AND PEAKS MY INTEREST, OTHER AREAS, WHICH IS WHY WE'LL HAVING YOU DO THIS PRESENTATION.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS APPROPRIATELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SITE? OFFICER ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY.
IF YOU NEED TO PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT OPTION ONE.
SO OPTION TWO, AGAIN, REMEMBER SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES.
SO IN OPTION TWO, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING STAYS IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT BUILDING FOR THE ELYSEE THAT WAS DASHED IN, IN THE PREVIOUS SCHEME SHOWS UP ON ALL CROSS THE STREET.
AND WE REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS VISIONING REQUIRES US TO THINK ABOUT ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
SO THAT THAT'S SORT OF AN ASIDE FOR THIS, BUT THE, THE, THE OPTION HERE SAYS, WELL, WHAT IF THE LAC STILL WANTS TO STAY, UH, IN ADJACENT TO THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS? AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THAT BUILDING THERE.
UM, OTHERWISE I THINK ADMINISTRATIVELY, YOU SEE THE SAME TOP SIDE OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
WHAT'S SORT OF DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS.
ONE IS THE WAY THAT THIS BUILDING AND THE COURT'S ADDITION IS HANDLED.
AND BROOKE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? SURE.
SO IN THIS, UM, OPTION, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXISTING ADMINISTRATION BUILDING HAS BEEN DEMOED, AND AS BRENT NOTED, IT'S ON THE CORNER SIMILAR TO OPTION ONE IN A NEW BUILDING.
WHAT WE'VE CREATED IS MORE OF A, UH, MORE FORMAL GREEN SPACE ALONG REBUILT FOR THE JUSTICE CORPS AND FOR ADMINISTRATION.
AND WE'VE NOW GIVEN YOUR EXISTING COURTHOUSE OF FACE TO THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS CONNECTING TO THE NORTH OF IT AND HAVING THE PUBLIC DEFENDER, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE, PTP, MASTER OF EQUITY, UM, FAMILY COURT AND FAMILY CLERK MOVE INTO THAT RED BLOCK.
THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE NORTH OF THE EXISTING BEAVER COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
IN THIS ONE, WE KEEP THE CIRCUIT COURT AND THE CIRCUIT CLERK, UM, PROBATE AND JURY ASSEMBLY AND GRAND JURY IN YOUR EXISTING FACILITY.
AND THEN, UM, THE NEW THREE-STORY HORN BUILDING STAYS AS IT IS WITH THE MAGISTRATE COURT.
THE BOND COURT STAYS IN THAT LITTLE RED SQUARE THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE DETENTION CENTER AND TO YOUR EXISTING BUFORD COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THE DETENTION CENTER ITSELF STAYS AS IT WAS AN OPTION.
ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME IS YOU MADE MENTION ABOUT TRYING REAL ESTATE AND FISCAL STRUCTURES AND WHAT IT COSTS TO BUILD NEW OR UNSEEN THING.
THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THE BUILDING THAT COULD BE RENOVATED AND IN THIS PARTICULAR OPTION, YOU'RE PARING IT DOWN AND THEREFORE THAT VALUABLE SPACE LOST.
THAT SEEMS TO BE A CONCERN TO ME.
ANYWAY, I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT AND IT'S, WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT IN ONE OPTION, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CONDITION OF THIS BUILDING AGE AND WE'RE RELATIONSHIP TO THE INVENTORY, BUT WE SHARED YOUR GENERAL OPINION ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU ONLY SEE THAT AS PROPOSED IN THIS OPTION.
AND AN OPTION IS ONE IN THREE, WE'RE LOOKING AT OF REPURPOSING IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.
WHAT'S BEHIND DOOR NUMBER THREE.
SO, SO AGAIN, REMEMBERING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FROM AN URBAN PLANNING PERSPECTIVE TO GET BUILDINGS UP ON THAT CORNER SO THAT WE CAN REINFORCE THAT BOUNDARY AND REVOLT IS THIS URBAN CENTER THAT HAS THE
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CITY OF BUFORD AND THE COUNTY'S FACILITIES KIND OF ALL UP THERE TOGETHER.SO WHEN THIS OPTION, WE LOOKED AT CREATING A GREEN SPACE OR PLAZA ON THAT CORNER THAT COULD BE ULTIMATELY FLANKED BY TWO BUILDINGS.
AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS IN THIS OPTION, WE'VE PUT ADMINISTRATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF REVOLT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO NOTE, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, WHERE THAT FUTURE EXPANSION PAD IS, IT COULD ALSO FLIP OVER TO THAT SIDE AND BE A SOLUTION THAT STEADIES ENTIRELY ON THIS CAMPUS.
UM, AND AGAIN, UH, I'LL LET BROOKE SPEAK TO HER PIECES, BUT THE, THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN IS, IS COLORED RED IN THIS, UM, IN THIS OPTION BECAUSE WE ARE REPURPOSING IT AS PART OF THE NEW SHERIFFS LEC, WHICH WAS THE IDEA BEHIND HOW WE CAN GET ENOUGH REAL ESTATE FOR THEM TO LIVE ON THIS SITE.
SO WE ARE RECORDING THE SENIOR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING INTO PART OF THE LEC FUNCTION AND WE WERE BUILDING TO THE NORTH OF IT, UM, TO CREATE THAT SYNERGY ON THAT BOUNDARY AND REBUILD STREET.
UM, T AGAIN, UH, VERY SIMILARLY TO WHAT YOU SAW IN OPTION TWO, THE EXISTING BEFORE COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
UM, WE HAVE PROVIDED AN ADDITION TO THE NORTH OF IT THAT DOES HOUSE PUBLIC DEFENDER, UH, DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE, PPP, MASTER OF EQUITY, FAMILY COURT, AND FAMILY CLERK IN THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE THREE-STORY, UH, HORN BUILDING THAT YOU SEE IN RED STAYS AS IS, UH, THE BOND COURT STAYS WITH ITS CONNECTIONS TO THE EXISTING COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THE EXISTING DETENTION CENTER.
AND THEN, UM, THE BUILDING TO THE EAST OF REBUILT, UM, LIKE BRETT MENTIONED, COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE, OR IT COULD STAY ON THE SAME LOT.
AND THIS WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND SYNERGIES BECAUSE NOW WE DO HAVE AT LEAST SEE ON THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS COURT, AS DETENTION.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP THERE WITH THEM, UM, GOING TO DIFFERENT COURT CASES, A LOT OF SYNERGIES AND A LOT OF COLLABORATION THAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN THEY'RE ALL COEXISTING ON ONE.
UM, AND A QUESTION IF YOU CONVERTED THAT TO THE LEC, WITH THE NEW PARKING, THERE'D BE ENOUGH SPACE FOR ALL.
W WHERE WOULD THAT NEW PARKING COME, WOULD YOU COVER THE EXISTING? YOU DON'T COVER THE EXISTING, UM, STORMWATER WITH TENSION ON, BUT WHERE WOULD THE NEW PARKING COME IN? UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE NOTION BRINGING ADMIN BACK ONTO THIS SITE, UM, AND I, I BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSUME THE REMAINING, UH, REMAINDER OF THAT AREA FOR PARKING, UM, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL AS SOME AT THE REAR OF THE COURTHOUSE ADDITION, SHOULD THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING COME BACK TO THE SITE, WE DID ENOUGH OF A STUDY TO FIND OUT THAT IT CAN FIT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THAT PUSHES THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PARKING, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BECOME INTO THE ADMIN BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF REBAR.
AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT TOO.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THIS, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES LISTED LATER, BUT THIS IS A TRUE CAMPUS STRATEGY WHERE, WHERE PUBLIC PARKING COULD BE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO ADMIN BUILDING BEHIND, BUT THAT STAFF PERHAPS WOULD HAVE TO SORT OF CROSS, CROSS REBO IN ORDER TO GET SO AGAIN, THINKING OF THINKING OF YOUR FACILITIES, TWO, TWO THINGS JUMPED OUT AT THE, UM, COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD SAID, YOU KNOW, IN OPTION ONE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 425 PARKING SPACES HAS 336 AND YOU SHOW AN UNDERGROUND STORM WATER RETENTION THAT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE PARKING OF IT.
UM, SO THAT'S A CONCERN BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE INGENIOUS WAYS UNDERGROUND RETENTION IN PARKING, LOTS ALLOWS YOU HAVE PARKING OVER THAT'S CONCERN.
NUMBER TWO, I HAD WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, BEING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF REBBL.
I INCLUDED, OH, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKERS, THE STAFFS AREN'T THERE, HOW DO THEY GET ACROSS THE STREET? IS THERE A WAY FOR A FRINGE, LIKE MANY URBAN CITIES, THEY HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CONNECTED BY OVERHEAD.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED.
UM, AND I THINK, UH, IF, IF THAT IS A CONCEPT THAT WHEN ADDED TO THIS MAKES THIS MORE VIABLE, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND FIND OUT THE VALIDITY OF THAT THAT GETS INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTRAINTS OF WHATEVER THE REBUILT, UH, AIR CROSSING IS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK AS A LOGISTICAL SOLUTION TO THE BULK OF PARKING BEING ACROSS THE STREET, IT IS SORT OF A TIME-TESTED ANSWER THAT WE COULD LOOK AT YES.
IN THIS CLIMATE, PERHAPS A L I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S SHELTER
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FROM THE RAIN, AND IT'S A MORE DIRECT CONNECTION.UH, IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS BATTLING THE COLD, BUT, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY A VIABLE OPTION.
WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM SIZE? I'M SORRY.
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE NEW THREE STORY BUILDING, BEING A 75,000 SQUARE FOOT ENLIST OPTION, WHEREAS WERE TALKING ABOUT A 90,000 SQUARE FOOT WITH THE IDEA.
IF WE DID LESS THAN THAT AND HAD UNDERGROUND PARKING, HE WOULD USE THE FUTURE HEAD FOR EXPANSION.
YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE DEFINITELY STUDIED UP.
UM, SO THE, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR IN THE HORROR BUILDING WOULD REMAIN AS IS, WHICH REDUCES THE 90 TO 75.
SO IN THE 90,000 SQUARE FOOT OPTION, YOU'RE ABSORBING THOSE FUNCTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE REPURPOSING THAT BUILDING.
UM, BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
UM, WHAT DOES THE WHOLE OFFICE SLASH RETAIL TWO STORY BUILDING SOMETHING THAT I WAS TRYING TO STRATEGICALLY AVOID? SO DURING THIS PROCESS, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE OPTION FOR HAVING PARKING OR A LINE OR BUILDING, UM, THAT WOULD BE LOCATED WHERE I BELIEVE THE CITY OF BUFORD CURRENTLY HAS A FIRE STATION.
IS THAT, THAT, THAT, SO THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED DURING OUR STUDY AND HAS SINCE BEEN SORT OF, UM, ADVANCED IN CONVERSATION AND PROBABLY NOT AN OPTION.
SO WHAT THAT WAS WAS I WAS TRYING TO GRAB SOME MORE PARKING AS A CAMPUS SOLUTION THAT WE DON'T THINK AT THIS TIME, PROBABLY BIBLE, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THESE? JUST BEING MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME.
AND AGAIN, BEFORE WE GET INTO ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE FACED.
SO WHEN YOU START TO SEE NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ALL COME OUT AT ONE TIME.
UH, THIS IS, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE FACED AT IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS THAT ALIGNS WITH YOUR CAPITAL FUNDING.
SO JUST LIKE ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHICH PIECE HAS TO MOVE FIRST.
SO IN THIS OPTION, YOU KIND OF BUILD THE NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO RENOVATE THIS BUILDING, START TO SHUFFLE PIECES AROUND, AND THEN THE LAST PHASE WILL BE TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING DETENTION.
YOU CAN SEE THE PRICE TAG DOWN THERE FOR ALL SEVEN OF THOSE PHASES.
THIS NUMBER WILL BE THE LOWEST NUMBER OF THE THREE OPTIONS.
BUT THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE REMEMBER THE LEC SORT OF IS DASHED, DID THIS ONE, THERE'S A LITTLE NOTE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM THAT TELLS YOU THAT IF YOU ADD THE LEC NUMBER, THIS OPTION COMES IN AROUND 306, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN APPLES TO APPLES.
NUMBER TWO, THE OTHER TWO NUMBERS THAT WE'LL VIEW.
SO, UH, 306 FOR THE FIRST OPTION, UH, AS YOU GO TO OPTION TWO, I WON'T BELABOR THE PHASING JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT THAT YIELDS A HIGHER NUMBER OF 329.
AND THAT'S RELATED AGAIN TO THE LEC AND THE COST, UH, BEING MORE EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD THAT HERE ON SITE VERSUS BUILDING IT OFFSITE OR OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THAT'S RELATED TO PROPERTY OTHER CHALLENGES.
SO THIS OPTION CAME IN HIGHER THAN THE FIRST OPTION AND THEN OPTION THREE CAME IN BETWEEN.
UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT ON THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY CLOSE TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT IS HOW DOES THE RE-PURPOSING OF THIS BUILDING, UH, OFFER SAVINGS ALONG THOSE LINES? AND IT DID SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN THIS OPTION VERSUS THE PREVIOUS OPTION WHERE IT WAS DEMOLISHED, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, IT SHOWED, UH, AROUND A $10,000 BILLS, OPTION THREE NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE OPTION THREE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN.
TO IS OFTEN TOO, I'M LOOKING AT OPTIONS.
THREE 12 VERSUS 3 29 FOR OPTIONS.
TWO AND THREE, REMEMBERING THAT OPTION ONE WAS THREE OF SIX.
SO FOR IF WE'RE PLAYING THE PRICE IS RIGHT.
OPTION ONE SORTA WINS, WINS OUT IN THAT BATTLE, RIGHT? NONE OF THESE OPTIONS, UM, TALK ABOUT, WELL, THE SECOND AND THIRD OPTION, THE IDEA OF HAVING THE BRIDGE ACROSS REBILL ROAD, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOVE THE BUILDING RATHER THAN HAVING TO CROSS THE STREET.
SO WE'LL JUST ADD A MILLION FOR THAT AND I'M GETTING THEM THAT WOULD DEFINITELY, UH, THAT WOULD INCREASE THE COST.
AND IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ADD TO THE, YEAH, NO,
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SINCE JULIE'S TALKING ABOUT THE GRID, UM, AT THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE, THEY HAVE PATHWAY UNDERNEATH THE ROVER.WOULD THAT BE A CONSIDERATION? I'M NOT TOO SURE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE MOVEMENT OF SAND UNDERNEATH MAY NOT BE A GOOD IDEA.
THAT WOULD BE MY HESITANCY IS TYPICALLY IN THIS AREA.
WE WANT TO GO UP INSTEAD OF DOWN TOO FAR.
UM, BUT, UH, WE COULD LOOK INTO THOSE LOGISTICS OF THAT.
UM, I HAVE SEEN THAT AS AN URBAN SOLUTION AS WELL.
UM, I'M NOT SO SURE IT WOULDN'T BE PORTUGAL TO BUILD EVOLVE AND IT WOULD A BRIDGE, BUT THOSE ARE, THAT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION.
SPEAKING OF THE BRIDGE, WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED, UH, HAPPENING IN CLOSE, UM, HAVING EMPLOYEES HAVING TO WALK FROM THE, UM, ADMIN BUILDING OVER TO THE PARKING LOT, UH, EXPOSED TO THE WEATHER.
I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC AND SO ON.
UM, I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING FEASIBLE.
I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS THAT WE LIKE TO HEAR BECAUSE WE WERE ULTIMATELY HOPING, YOU KNOW, THAT A RECOMMENDATION FOR ONE OF THESE WILL COME OUT OF IT.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BRIDGE AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF HAVING THIS BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO REALLY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT LEADS US INTO THINKING THAT ONE OF THE OTHER SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED, OR FRANKLY IT ENDS UP BEING SOME COMBINATION THEREOF, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE BRIDGE.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT BRIDGE AND THIS OPTION IS THAT YOU WANT TO CONNECT TO THE END OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE SECURITY OF THAT FACILITY, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE DONE IN A VERY NICE WAY.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE WOULD SPEND THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR TIME ON THESE AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD, PERHAPS.
SO THERE'S A NARRATIVE HERE THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO TOUCH ON BECAUSE IT'S THE SORT OF BACKBONE BEHIND WHY A LOT OF THE REASONS WE HAD APPROACHED THE DETENTION CENTER COURTS THAT WAY.
SO JUST, JUST AS WE'VE STARTED TO EXPLAIN, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE DETENTION CENTER IN ITS EXISTING LOCATION TO STAY ADJACENT AND CONNECTED TO THE COURTS BECAUSE UTILIZING THAT ALLOWS, UM, LESS TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TO THE EAST OF THE DETENTION CENTER IS INTEGRATED AND INTENTIONALLY TIES WITH THE VISUAL ORIENTATION, MAINTAINING THE CIRCULATION DURING PHASE ONE.
SO ANYTIME WE DO TOUCH AN EXISTING DETENTION CENTER, BECAUSE IT IS A SECURE LOCATION, PHASING HAS TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT REALLY CRITICALLY.
AND SO WE WOULD ALWAYS BUILD NEW SO THAT WE CAN, UM, HAVE THE SPACE TO MOVE PEOPLE AS WE MAKE THOSE ADJOINING ADDITIONS.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT FACING WOULD BE ZONED OFF, UH, SO THAT THOSE AREAS ARE UNOCCUPIED AND THEY STAY WITH, UH, IN THEIR SECURE PERIMETER, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS AN URBAN MULTISTORY, MULTI RISE, FULL FUNCTIONAL JAIL OPERATED 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
UM, WE WOULD WANT TO CO LOCATE AND RELOCATE.
IT'S A NEW PUBLIC ENTRANCE TO A BETTER VISUAL, UM, LOCATION FOR STAFF, AS WELL AS THE INTAKE.
AND SO IN THOSE, UM, PREVIOUS OPTIONS THAT YOU SAW THAT WAS KIND OF SOME OF THE DRIVES THAT YOU SAW, UM, CIRCULATING THE BUILDING AS WELL AS, UM, STACKING.
SO ANYTIME WE'RE LOOKING AT STACIE NEW DETENTION CENTER, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIVIDING THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS OF PEOPLE, UM, AND THEN REALLY MAXIMIZING YOUR BOARD SPACE.
SO RIGHT NOW THE DETENTION CENTER IS UNDERSIZED.
AND AS WE NOTED EARLIER, THE PROGRAMMATIC AREAS AND, UH, MEDICAL, MENTAL HEALTH AREAS, EVERYTHING IS UNDERSIZED.
AND SO WE WOULD BE REALLY LOOKING AT BUILDING UP THAT CORE AND THE SIZE AND THE FIT AND THE BUDGET ALSO RELY ON THAT EXISTING BUILDING, UM, BUILDING UP THAT CORE.
SO, UM, BASICALLY IT'S A REALLY, REALLY HEAVY COST, UM, FOR RENOVATION, ANYTIME WE'RE TOUCHING AN EXISTING OLDER DETENTION CENTER.
AND SO BY ALLOWING HOUSING RENOVATIONS TO RETAIN AND UPGRADE THE EXISTING CELLS AND MEET THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS, UM, THAT IS WHY WE WOULD BE PHASING IT THE WAY WE ARE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF HOUSING INTO THE NEW BUILDING RENOVATE THE EXISTING HOUSING TO, TO MEET, UM, THE STANDARDS REQUIRED AND THEN MOVE, UH, RELOCATE PEOPLE BACK.
AND THEN FOR THE CORDS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN PIECE, YOU GUYS HAVE INVESTED SO MUCH IN THIS PROPERTY.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT INVESTMENT, UM, AND KEEP IT COLD LOCATED WITH THE DETENTION CENTER AND CONNECTED.
WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE EXIST EXISTING AUTHOR HORN BUILDING SPACE.
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IT HAS MOST RECENTLY BEEN FINISHED AND THEN UTILIZE THE EXISTING, UH, BUFORD COUNTY COURTHOUSE SPACE AND PROPOSE THE RIGHT KIND OF ADDITIONS AND CONNECTIONS THAT CAN TRULY ALLOW YOUR EXISTING COURTHOUSE TO BE SECURE FROM A CIRCULATION STANDPOINT, SECURE FOR YOUR JUDGES, PROVIDE SECURE PARKING FOR YOUR JUDGES AND JUST PROVIDE A BETTER OVERALL EXPERIENCE FOR THE CITIZENS HERE THAT ARE COMING TO ACCESS THOSE SERVICES.SO I'M GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH YES, SIR.
CAUSE I'M ON THE BOTTOM HERE FOR ALL THE PHASES INCLUDE THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY WE DID ACCOUNT FOR BASED ON JUST CURRENTLY VALUES.
SO WE, WE PUT TOGETHER SOME VISUALS AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE RUNNING REALLY TIGHT ON TIME.
SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF BREEZE THROUGH THESE.
THESE ARE THREE DIMENSIONAL RENDERINGS, AND REALLY WE PUT THESE TOGETHER TO TRY AND EMPHASIZE KIND OF HOW THE MASSING WOULD RELATE TO THOSE TWO BUILDINGS AND CREATE THAT URBAN CORE.
SO YOU CAN JUST SEE KIND OF HOW THE PIECES START TO SWITCH OUT, BACK AND FORTH AS YOU MANIPULATE THESE, UM, BETWEEN EACH OTHER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS SORT OF THAT OPTION THREE THAT WE LANDED ON IN OUR LAST DISCUSSION.
AND HERE THEY ARE JUST AS A COMPARISON, AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF SIMILARITIES, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW A BUILDING ON THE CORNER FOR ADMIN VERSUS HAVING A PLAZA ON THE CORNER.
YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DOES CHANGE THE NATURE OF THAT DEVELOP.
WE'VE ALREADY REALLY TALKED THROUGH MOST OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES, QUITE FRANKLY.
SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST SKIP ON TO THIS NEXT SLIDE.
SO WE'RE WINDING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN AND YOU ASKED US EARLIER, WOULD THE ELYSEE BE BEST LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE? AND THIS WAS A SITE THAT WAS
SO THIS SITE IS, UM, OFF OF, UH, THE, THE FREEWAY, UM, PROVIDES A BETTER ACCESS TO, UM, RESPONSE TIME AND IS ACTUALLY MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS TO ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS SITE, UM, WE'RE IT A FACE, UM, TO THE ROAD THERE, TO THE FREEWAY AND, UM, WE'RE PROVIDING SECURE PARKING OUTBACK, UH, SECURED GATE ACCESS TO DIFFERENT, UH, WAYS TO GET INTO THIS FACILITY OUT, UH, MAINTAINING ALL OF THEIR, UH, EXISTING TACTICAL FLEET TOWARD THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THAT SECURE PARKING LOT AREA.
AND THEN ALONG, UH, THE RE THE DETENTION POND THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE ALONG THE ROAD SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE SHALLOW, UH, BUT LINEAR LONG PUBLIC PARKING AREA.
SO, UM, OPEN PUBLIC PARKING TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVE, UM, TUCKING BACK FROM THE TOP OF THE SITE TO THE LITTLE RED FINGER THAT'S STICKING OUT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE DRIVE THROUGH VEHICLE PROCESSING BAG.
UM, AGAIN, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE, UH, WAYS TO MODERNIZE YOUR EMERGENCY APPROACH, UH, TO EVENTS OR TO WEATHER OR TO ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN BUFORD COUNTY.
UM, THERE'S ALSO AN, UH, UH, BUNK.
UH, SO THE BOTTOM FINGER OF THAT RED, UH, BUILDING LAYOUT, UH, IS A BUNK, UH, AREA FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO STAY AND, UM, PROVIDE THE 24 HOUR SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED DURING THOSE TIMES.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THIS FACILITY.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES OF THOSE, AGAIN, THE AREA IT'S IT'S PROPERTY YOU OWN, IT'S ADJACENT TO ANOTHER COUNTY FACILITY.
I THINK WE TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THESE.
IT IS PART OF THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO A NATURE PRESERVE, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY ENOUGH ROOM BASED ON THIS STUDY, UH, TO, TO FIT WITHIN A FACILITY.
UH, IT IS A WAY FROM THE CITY CENTER, BUT I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME POSITIVES TO THAT ALSO.
AND THEN HERE'S THE NUMBER WHERE THAT CAME IN.
AND AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PHASE ONE.
SO THAT WAS THE OFFSITE LEC LOCATION, WHICH WAS ON THE OTT HIGHWAY ADJACENT TO ANIMAL SERVICES.
IF IT WAS DETERMINED THAT ANOTHER SITE FOR THIS WAS MORE FEASIBLE, YOU LITERALLY TEST THIS ACREAGE AND PICK THAT UP AND SET IT DOWN AS A MEANS FOR DETERMINING IF ANOTHER SITE WAS A VIABLE SITE.
SO MOVING THEN ON TO EMS, UM, YOUR EMS SITE, UH, OVER, UH, AS A PART OF THE WAREHOUSE, WHICH ACTUALLY CO-LOCATED THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, COUNTY FACILITIES.
AND SO WE WANTED TO TEST TO SEE IF IT WAS VIABLE TO EXPAND THAT, UH, IN SITU.
UM, AND SO YOU SEE THERE, THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE WHERE WE'RE SHOWING, UH, UH, STAYING AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF COUNTY SORT OF FUNCTIONS IN IT.
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THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST PLAN, BUT FOR TODAY IT WAS.AND THEN YOU, SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT, YEAH, YOU CAN FIT THE PROGRAM FOR A NEW EMS FACILITY ON THE SITE, BUT YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO MANEUVER.
THERE'S NOWHERE FOR LAY DOWN THE ACTUAL CONTRACTOR TO BUILD.
IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GET A PIECE OF LAND SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY TIGHT SITE FOR WORKING ALL OF THESE THINGS ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO WHILE, WHILE WE, WE PUSHED TO GET IT IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THIS SITE WAS REALLY DEEMED FEASIBLE JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE EXISTING.
UM, AND SO THEN WE BEGAN TO LOOK ELSEWHERE AND I THINK, UH, I THINK Y'ALL ARE AWARE THAT ONE OF THE SITES THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS WHAT'S CALLED THE OLD BOWLING ALLEY SIDE RIGHT DOWN, UH, REBUILT, ADJACENT TO, UH, WHAT, UH, CITY V FIRST NEW FIRE STATION.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE AT THE TIME IT WAS VIABLE AND WE INVESTED A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF ENERGY AND STUDYING THERE, BUT THIS SITE IS NOW, UH, NOT FEASIBLE, BUT IN A SIMILAR FASHION, IT'S A TWO ACRE SITE.
SO ULTIMATELY IF WE, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT FITS THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A TWO ACRE SITE AND WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT EMS EXPANSION AS THEY, AS THEY ENVISIONED.
IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS SOLD OR THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CLOSED.
UH, I DON'T THINK, UM, I THINK WE WOULD ENCOUNTER SOME OPPOSITION FROM THE CITY OF BUFORD PUTTING IT THERE IN THAT LOCATION, AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE EMS PROGRAM, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS.
SO THEN I WAS GOING TO SHIFT ONTO THE PUBLIC WORK SITE AND THEN DEAL WITH, WAS BACK HERE EARLIER, AGAIN, YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS FACILITY.
UH, IT'S ACTUALLY THREE OR FOUR FACILITIES OUT ON A HUGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE SIZE OF ADMIN, THE GARAGE FOR FLEET, UH, SEVERAL COVERED STORAGE AREAS.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE KIND OF THAT PARKING, UH, ANALYSIS THAT'S THERE.
UM, SO A COUPLE OF DRIVERS, UH, FOR DEVELOPING THIS SITE, UM, ONE BEING THAT THE EXISTING NEEDS TO STAY OPERATIONAL WHILE ANYTHING IS HAPPENING HERE.
SO IN LIKE FASHION WITH THE DOWNTOWN SITE, YOU'LL SEE THE BUFF COLOR, UH, THAT IS THE EXISTING, UH, FLEET BUILDING.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LITTLE T THAT IS DASHED IN FRONT OF IT.
I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
SO THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT ALL THESE THINGS COULD HAPPEN AROUND THIS WHILE IT STAYS OPERATIONAL.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING WILL BE TORN DOWN WHEN THE NEW ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING IS BUILT OUT IN FRONT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE REORG OF THIS SITE.
IT DOES, AS I MENTIONED, KEEP THE EXISTING FLEET SERVICES FACILITY AND EXPAND ON THAT AS THE PROGRAM NEEDED, IT KEEPS THE EXISTING FUELING STATION, WHICH DEFINITELY HAS SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UH, BUT IT DOES CREATE A BETTER OR CLEANER DIVISION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC FACE OF THE BUILDING AND THE SECURE PARKING AREA.
UH, THE, THE SITE HAS THAT PRIMARY ACCESS ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT THAT COMES IN AND ONCE YOU ENTER THE SECURE LOT, ALL OF STAFF HAS THAT ADJACENT PARKING WITHIN THE SECURE PERIMETER.
AND THEN BEHIND THE NEW ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, YOU HAVE ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONED YARD SPACES.
YOU HAVE COVERED EXTERIOR STORAGE, YOU HAVE YOUR FLEET, YOUR GARAGE AREA, AND THEN YOU CAN SORT OF ADD ON POLE BARNS AS NEEDED AS THE COUNTY ACQUIRES, MORE FLEET, MORE SERVICES THAT NEED TO PROTECTION FROM UV.
YOU CAN LITERALLY SCALE THAT SITE UP TO THE RIGHT AS TIME GOES ON.
SO IT'S A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE TOO MANY THINGS PUSHING AGAINST US, UNLIKE THE DOWNTOWN SITE.
SO WE HAD ROOM TO SORT OF GET IN HERE AND MANEUVER AND REALLY, UM, SORT OF GENERATE WHAT THE PROGRAM REQUIRED.
WAS THAT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? IT WAS NOT, I DO NOT KNOW THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THAT SITE.
I SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY TOUCHING THE FRONT THIRD OF IT.
AND AS LONG AS THOSE LINES ARE THERE, PROPERTY JUST GOES BACK BEHIND THERE AS WELL.
SO THE TOTAL WAS PROBABLY OVER A HUNDRED ACRES, I BELIEVE IT IS.
SO AGAIN, I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY OF THIS SIZE, WE'RE STARTING TO SCALE DOWN IN NUMBERS, BUT AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, THE ADDITIONS TO FLEET AND ALL THE SUPPORT FACILITIES THAT CAME IN AROUND 14.7.
BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALSO PIECES THAT COULD BE DONE AND SCALED OVER TIME AND PHASES.
SO WE'LL DO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER SOUTH IN BLUFFTON.
AGAIN, BLUFFTON, YOU ALL WALDO IS SORT OF EXPLODING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S A REASON FOR US TO LOOK AT SERVICES.
UH, THIS IS A GREAT SITE, UH, THAT YOU ALL HAVE AND DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY PLANNING FOR EXPANSION.
UM, OKAY, SO HERE'S THE LAYOUT AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE BUFF BUILDING
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KIND OF DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM.THAT'S YOUR EXISTING GOVERNMENT CENTER.
IT'S THAT TWO AND A HALF STORY.
NICE BUILDING HAS A WONDERFUL LAW ON OUT BEHIND IT, WHICH ULTIMATELY WAS PLANNED FOR A MIRROR IMAGE BUILDING.
SO CERTAINLY YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD FIND, OKAY, SO THERE'S ANOTHER 20,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY WE CAN BUILD THERE.
UM, WE HAD THOUGHT INITIALLY THAT WE COULD SORT OF EXPAND TO THE NORTH, BUT THEN THERE'S A SORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR STIMULUS PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING UP THERE, BUT IT BECAME OUR NEIGHBOR HALFWAY THROUGH THE STUDY.
AND SO WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING UP THERE.
AND THE OTHER PIECE THAT WAS CHALLENGED IN THIS AREA REALLY WAS RELATED TO SURVEY REPORTS.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT BEING VERY CAREFUL WITH NOMENCLATURE WAS A SOUTH COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER, UM, THAT WOULD LIVE ON THIS SIDE AND YOU SEE, WE'VE SHOWN TWO OPTIONS HERE, ONE ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY.
UM, IT JUST DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE MOST WONDERFUL OF LOCATIONS TUCKED IN OVER THERE AGAINST THE MARSH.
UH, AND IT'S NOT AS VISIBLE AND DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH ADJACENT PARKING AS WE WOULD PREFER.
AND SO ALONG THOSE LINES, WE PROVIDE ANOTHER OPTION, WHICH IS TO PURCHASE THE PARCEL IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE LEFT.
UM, AND IF YOU DID THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT AFFORDS A MUCH MORE GRACIOUS OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR PARKING AND SECURE PERIMETER.
UH, IT DOES CONTINUE KIND OF THAT LAW AND THAT'S ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN, UH, ON THIS SITE.
IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO ME ON THE LIST SIDE, THE WEST SIDE? YES, SIR.
SO THE, THE WEST SIDE PROPERTY, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS DASHED BECAUSE THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION AND IT IS ON, YOU KNOW, IT WILL REQUIRE IT WILL REQUIRE A PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY, BUT LONGTERM WOULD SET YOU UP FOR A BETTER PARKING SOLUTION AND MORE ROOM FOR GROWTH.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE, THE IDEA BEHIND THAT SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE IN HILTON HEAD RIGHT NOW WOULD BE MOVING INTO THIS FACILITY.
AND AGAIN, AS WE GET THOSE COURT-RELATED FUNCTIONS SORT OF CLOSER TO WHERE THE COURTS ARE.
SO, UH, THERE'S ALSO D HECK THAT'S IN THE EXISTING BOTTOM FLOOR OF THE, OF THE, THE ONE, UH, BUILDING THERE CLOSEST TO THE SOUTH.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN A FULL FOOTPRINT AVAILABLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE GROWTH.
UH, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESSOR ROD TREASURE Y'ALL KNOW THE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE DOWN THERE.
WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO QUITE SO FAR.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT CENTER.
WHAT DO YOU ENVISION GOING IN THERE? I'M SORRY.
WHAT'D YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE? WHAT DO YOU ENVISION PUTTING INTO EITHER OF THE, UH, JUST THAT YOU WERE PROPOSING HERE? UM, IT WOULDN'T BE BUILDING BOTH OF THEM, I GUESS.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU BE PUTTING IN THE WINTER? YEAH, IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR A MAGISTRATE OR A PROBATE TO BE LOCATED HERE.
THEY'LL SEE IT IN SOME OTHER OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD, BUT THAT WAS OKAY.
MAGISTRATE AND PROBATE WERE THE TWO PRIMARY DRIVERS OF THAT.
AND PART OF THAT WAS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT PROBATE ALSO HAS A FOOTPRINT IN HILTON HEAD THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT THAT MIGHT NEED TO STAY AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES.
WE JUST SPOKE THROUGH THEM BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, NEW GOVERNMENT CENTER WITHIN A PUBLIC COURTYARD, THE CHALLENGE OF THE OPTION TO REALLY IT'S A BETTER LAYOUT, BUT IT REQUIRES MORE PARKING.
WELL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION PLEASE? SURE.
GOING BACK TO THE SITE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHAT WOULD BE HOUSED THERE? THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS HOUSED IN THE CURRENT BUILDING? NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO AND THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, YOU COULD BE CONFUSING THE PUBLIC.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS, BUILDING HOUSES, CERTAIN THINGS, BUILDING HOUSES, OTHER THINGS I PARK AT BUILDING B WHEN I REALLY SHOULD BE IN BUILDING A AND CAN THEY BE ATTACHED? I COVERED WALK.
I THINK THE ANSWER TO THE LAST PART OF THAT IS EASIER AND IT IS, IT IS.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE FUNCTIONALITY, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU HAVE AUDITOR OR TREASURER, YOU HAVE THE ASSESSOR OR THE REGISTER OF DEEDS, VOTER REGISTRATION, LEAD, LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION.
ALL OF THOSE ARE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE EXISTING AS WELL AS D HECK HAS JUST ABOUT THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH IS NOT EVEN IN THIS LIST.
SO REALLY, REALLY THE COUNTY SERVICES FOOTPRINT IN OUR STUDY SCOPE IS THOSE UPPER TWO FLOORS.
ALL OF THOSE ARE PRESSING AND NEEDS.
AND THERE ARE ALSO AGENCIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE HILTON HEAD GOVERNMENT CENTER THAT ARE
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COURTS RELATED.THAT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED TO COME OUT AND COME TO THIS FACILITY AS WE PLAN FOR THIS NEW MAGISTRATE COURT TO BE AT THIS LOCATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT WOULD OCCUPY THE NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE FACILITIES AND ALLOW THOSE OTHER PIECES TO EXPAND.
AND THEN THE COURT IS, AS WE JUST DESCRIBED.
I LIKED THE IDEA IF WE'RE GOING TO PAY NEUTRALS TO CENTER, OPTION TWO SEEMS TO BE PREFERENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE BUILDING IS AND PARKING THAT COULD BE THERE.
AND OPTION ONE, WOULD YOU PUT ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE AND PLACE IT UP BUILDING? YOU COULD CERTAINLY, UM, YES.
AND THAT WOULD BE A WAY OF SORT OF LEVERAGING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF VALUE IN THAT LAND.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME MARSHLAND OVER THERE ON THAT EDGE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GO TOO FAR IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT YES, YOU CERTAINLY CAN, RIGHT? YEAH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE THAT MIGHT COME UP TODAY? ONE, UH, ONE ADDITIONAL THING I'LL POINT OUT ABOUT OPTION ONE ON THIS SITE IS THAT WE OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO DO A RECALCULATION OF THE STORMWATER CAPABILITIES FOR THE SITE.
WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT SURE, UH, WITH ALL OF THE DETENTION PONDS THAT RUN AROUND THE SITE, WHAT ALL THAT WATER IS CARRYING BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE AREA THERE, EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE MYRTLE PARK COMPLEX.
SO WE MAY BE LIMITED ON BUILDINGS IN OPTION ONE ON ADDITIONAL SPACE THERE, UH, DUE TO THAT FACT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWN STORM WATER ISSUES AT THIS POINT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE, UH, WHEN WE GOT INTO DESIGN DRAWINGS.
WE'VE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES YOU SEE THERE, THE TWO NUMBERS, UH, AND, AND THAT, THAT INCORPORATES BOTH FACILITIES.
UM, AND IT, THE DIFFERENCE IN DELTA IS THE PRICE OF PROPERTY EFFECTIVELY IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
UM, SO AGAIN, UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING LOCATION OF SPECIAL OPS.
SO THEY'RE LOCATED IN A GREAT LOCATION, VERY, UM, ACCESSIBLE AND HIGHER, UH, RESPONSE TIMES.
SO, UH, THEY LIKE BEING IN THEIR LOCATION.
IT'S ALSO A PRIVATE LOCATION, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, UH, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE ENTRANCE OFF KATIE HIGHWAY.
UM, THE BUILDING IN BUFF IS THEIR EXISTING BUILDING.
THE BUILDING IN RED IS THEIR EXISTING BUILDING SO DIRECTLY, UM, IN FRONT.
IT'S TOO FAR AWAY FOR ME TO SEE, UM, THE BUILDING IS THE EXISTING BUILDING.
THE PARKING, UH, THE 19 PARKING SPOTS ARE IN FRONT OF, UH, THE EXISTING AND THE NEW ADDITION THAT WE WOULD PUT TO IT.
SO VERY, VERY SMALL, UM, UH, ALMOST LIKE A HOUSE THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND SO WE WOULD BE ADDING OFFICE EXPANSION TO THAT AS WELL AS A COMMAND AND PATROL STORAGE TO THE LEFT, UM, IS WHERE THEIR NEW GARAGES FOR ALL THEIR TACTICAL SUPPORT, UM, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES, AND THEN TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UH, AERIAL IMAGE IS KIND OF, UM, HAZED OVER, BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THESE LITTLE COVERED BUILDINGS STICKING OUT OVER THE PROPERTY LINE.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY BUILT OVER THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND SO WE WOULD BE RECTIFYING THEIR LOCATION TO BUILD WITHIN THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE, AS WELL AS KEEPING THE EXISTING, UM, TRAINING HOUSE THAT THEY HAVE IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
SO AGAIN, GREAT LOCATION FOR THEM SERVES THEM WELL ROOM TO EXPAND, UH, WONDERFUL FOOTPRINT AND THEIR NEEDS WERE SMALLER AND SCALES TO SOME OF THE OTHERS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THERE DOES, DOES COUNCIL KNOW WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE? NO.
THIS IS A PIECE OF, THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON ONE 70 NEAR, UM, UH, CAMP ST.
IF YOU GO DOWN, UH, COMING OUT OF BUFORD, IT WOULD BE ON THE LEFT.
IF YOU'RE COMING UP FROM, UH, BLUFFTON, IT WOULD BE ON YOUR RIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE TURNOFF FOR CAMP ST.
MARY'S AND IT'S, UH, YOU, YOU BARELY CAN SEE IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF VEGETATION IN FRONT OF IT.
UH, IT'S A VERY SMALL SITE AT THIS POINT, BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE USES IT FOR SPECIAL OPERATIONS.
UH, JUST, JUST ONE OTHER NOTE THAT THIS WOULD BE, UM, SPECIAL OPS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEVER CO-LOCATED WITH THE, THE MAIN HEADQUARTERS.
UM, IT ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE FOR SECURITY AND CONFIDENTIALITY.
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22 BAYS, 22 BAYS.I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S COVERED STORAGE FOR THEIR EXISTING VEHICLES, BOATS, UM, ALL OF THAT SORT OF POLE BARN, IF YOU WILL.
SO A A FOR A, I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TERM ALMOST LIKE PARKING SPOTS, BUT THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF TRAILERS AND BOATS AND ALL KINDS OF AREAS IN THE CENTER, THINGS OUT THERE AND TONS, RIGHT? SO SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING CENTER SIDE.
THIS IS AN EXISTING SERVICE SITE FOR YOU ALL.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT HERE IS JUST INTEGRATING THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, A MURPH TO THIS SITE, A MATERIALS RECLAMATION FACILITY.
UM, THERE, THERE IS ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED TO THE SOUTH THAT WE INITIALLY LOOKED AT DEVELOPING, BUT I THINK IT WAS DETERMINED IN FEASIBLE, UH, AS WE LOOKED AT THIS NEXT PHASE.
SO YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS VERY SIMPLE.
THIS IS JUST EXTENDING THE PARKING THE WAY THAT IT EXISTS TODAY.
KIND OF ADDING NEW SOME NEW SPACES ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING FOR WORKERS REALLY, BUT IT PROVIDES THAT PULL THROUGH ACCESS.
SO YOU JUST CONTINUE DOWN THE DRIVE AISLE, YOU LITERALLY DRIVE THROUGH THE BUILDING.
THINGS ARE OFFLOADED AND YOU DRIVE OUT THE OTHER END.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT MOST MURPH'S, UH, SORT OF OUR, OUR POSITION IT'S 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, IF YOU WERE EXPANDING THIS IN THEORY, YOU WOULD BEGIN WORKING ON THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
UM, YEAH, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S LAND THAT YOU HAVE.
UH, WE COULDN'T DO THE REGIONAL SIZE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF A CHALLENGE, WE ORIGINALLY DID LOOK AT A LARGER, UH, MRF FACILITY, BUT THE 15,000 WAS DETERMINED, FEASIBLE ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THE PRICE POINT WHERE THAT COMES IN.
SEE TRAWLER SIDE IS ONE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH, UM, ONE THAT IS ALSO, UM, GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE NEW 2 78 EXCHANGE.
AND SO WE WENT THROUGH MULTIPLE ITERATIONS, UH, ON THIS SITE, UM, HOW TO CONVERT IT INTO A PARK, HOW TO CONVERT IT INTO A COMMUNITY FACILITY, UH, HOW MUCH PARKING CAN WE ACTUALLY INTEGRATE INTO IT? UM, IS THERE A FEASIBILITY IN CLOSING RAMP, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WAS PROBABLY PRETTY UNPOPULAR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN DO, UH, TO, UH, TO DEVELOP THIS SITE TO A BETTER COUNTY HUMIDITY, INCLUDING BUFFERING TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD REROUTING OF STREETS? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE LANDED ON ANYTHING NECESSARILY THAT'S BEEN ACCEPTED YET AS A PART OF THIS, BUT WE DID LOOK AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR WAYS TO BRING THIS SITE TO A BETTER COUNTY USE.
UM, AND I MEAN, WHENEVER YOU FINISH, I NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THANK YOU.
I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST END RIGHT HERE AND SAY THAT THE THIRD OPTION WAS THE HIGHEST COST FOR DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE INCLUDED THIS ONE IN THE STUDY JUST BECAUSE IT WAS THE MOST PARKING CHEAP, SORRY, AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS AN EXISTING COUNTY OWNED FACILITY THAT WILL NEED, UH, SOME TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT OF WHAT WE DO WITH IT.
YOU ALL HAVE INSTRUCTED US TO LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT SITE FOR VERY EMBARKATION, AND WE'RE DOING THAT NOW.
YOU'LL BE BRIEFED ON THAT HERE SHORTLY.
UH, BUT, UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON AS TO WHAT TO DO WITH THIS, UH, PARTICULAR LOCATION AND HOW WE SHOULD IMPROVE IT, UH, IN SHORT ORDER.
I PROMISE WE'RE ALMOST THERE, UH, GARMENT CENTER SOUTH IN HILTON, HEAD A LITTLE SQUARE BUILDING, 8,000 SQUARE FEET FULL OF VARIOUS AND SUNDRY FUNCTIONS.
UM, AND ALL OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT OVER TIME.
SOME, SOME THINGS HAVE KIND OF OUTSIDE AGENCIES LIKE CLEMSON EXTENSION AND SOME OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE ALSO VERY VIABLE PROGRAMS HAVE ENDED UP HAVING SPACE IN THERE, BUT, BUT REALLY EVERY, EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THERE AS SORT OF CONSTRAINT.
AND SO REALLY WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS IS THE EXISTING DIAGRAM.
AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF THE PROPOSED, IF YOU WILL.
AND YOU'LL SEE DOWN THERE, WE'RE DISLIKED, WE'RE RELOCATING, EXCUSE ME.
UH, SOME DEPARTMENTS, PROBATION AND PART OF PAROLE.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, VOTER REGISTRATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD BE MOVING IN THEORY.
THOSE TWO THINGS IN THEORY WOULD BE MOVING TO THAT NEW GOVERNMENT CENTER.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AT MYRTLE PARK, UH, THE OTHER, UH, OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
WE NEED TO WORK WITH THEM TO FIND SPACE FOR, AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY ANYTHING SPECIFIC HERE, UM, BUT WE WILL WORK FORWARD ON THAT.
THE BIG PUSH HERE IS THE PROBATE COURT, AND I WANT TO LET BROOKE SPEAK TO THAT.
WE SORT OF PUSHED BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE IN THIS FOOTPRINT, BUT THERE'S A REAL REASON WHY.
UH, SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THE NATIONAL MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.
THAT'S ONGOING EVERYWHERE, UM, HOW TO GET THOSE COURT CASES, UM, THROUGH TO EXPEDITE THOSE COURT CASES, HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DECOMPENSATING WITHIN COURT, THEN DO YOU HAVE
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SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS? UM, SO THIS LOCATION IS ACTUALLY NEAR ONE OF YOUR HOSPITALS.AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, THAT PROXIMITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO COURT CASES.
YOU WANT TO HAVE THE PROXIMITY NEAR THE HOSPITAL, BECAUSE IF YOU DO HAVE COMMITMENTS, YOU ACTUALLY NEED MEDICAL STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COME APPEAR IN COURT, UM, ADDRESS WHATEVER'S NEEDED IN THAT CASE AND GO BACK TO THEIR JOB.
SO THIS ACTUALLY HELPS YOU GUYS EX EXPEDITE, EXPEDITE, UM, THOSE TYPES OF COURT CASES WITHIN YOUR COUNTY.
AND THOSE, THOSE PHYSICIANS ARE SORT OF DOING THAT ON THEIR OWN TIME A LOT OR SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THE MORE YOU CAN MINIMIZE THAT TRANSPORTATION, THE MORE EFFICIENT THAT SERVICE BECOMES.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IN THE SOLUTION, THE PROBATE COURT, UH, FUNCTION HAS SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDED.
AND ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES WITH THAT IS RELATED TO SECURITY, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S LESS SEPARATION OF FUNCTION IN THAT AREA BETWEEN JUDGE ACCESS AND THOSE THAT ARE IN COURT.
SO RENOVATION TO THIS FACILITY, WE SPOKE THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INTERNAL RENOVATION THAT COMES IN AT A MUCH MORE PALATABLE PRICE POINT.
IT KEEPS ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT EVERYONE'S ACCUSTOMED TO THERE AT THE FRONT DOOR.
GOOD NEXT TO LAST HUMAN SERVICES, WHAT A WONDERFUL FACILITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRST FLOOR IS PRETTY MUCH TAKEN BY DSS AND THAT WORKS REALLY WELL FOR THEM.
AND SO WE PROPOSED THAT THAT WOULD STAY, BUT THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF THE EXISTING SECOND FLOOR.
YOU CAN SEE KIND OF ALL THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ALL HIGHLIGHT JUVENILE JUSTICE PPP, UH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LISTED TWO TIMES AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE CORE AFFILIATED FUNCTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH SERVE WELL, TO MOVE JUST DOWN THE STREET ONTO THE CAMPUS, ADJACENT TO THE COURTHOUSE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, THAT WOULD FREE UP SPACES IN THE UPPER FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING FOR ALCOHOL AND DRUG TO EXPAND, TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A SPACE FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, UH, COS Y HUMAN SERVES AS BUFORD IS LOCATED IN A SMALL HOUSE DOWN THE STREET HERE THAT THAT SERVES THEM WELL, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
SO THIS WOULD AFFORD THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE INTO THE BUILDING.
THERE IS A B FOR JASPER EOC THAT HAS A FOOTPRINT ON THE UPPER FLOOR THAT WE WOULD, UH, UH, LEAVE UNCHANGED JUST BASED ON THAT AGREEMENT.
BUT THE, WE EVEN LOOKED AT AN OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS FOR VETERANS AFFAIRS TO COME HERE, YOU ALL MAY BE AWARE THERE IN THE, UH, CITY OF BUFORD FACILITY DOWNSTAIRS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY WERE IN THIS SPACE.
AND THEN I THINK THEY WENT OUT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD SPOKEN WITH THEM ABOUT IS JUST BEING IN A PLACE THAT'S DIGNIFIED.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE INITIATIVES OF THIS STUDY WAS TO CONSIDER HOW TO GET COUNTY SERVICES INTO COUNTY FACILITIES AND OUT OF OTHER FACILITIES.
SO THIS SEEMED LIKE A LOGICAL, UH, IT'S, IT'S NEAR THE POINT OF SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY.
IT'S A GOOD FACILITY IT'S RIGHT.
IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE ELEVATOR.
THAT WAS THE ONLY CHALLENGE IN DOING THIS HERE, IF WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THEM ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT DSS REALLY DOES CONSUME THAT FOOTPRINT.
SO IT'S ABOUT SHIFTING COURT FUNCTIONS TOWARDS THE COURTS TO FREE UP ROOM FOR THESE OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE MORE, PROBABLY MORE BETTER SERVED TO LIVE IN THE HUMAN SERVICES FIELD.
UH, AGAIN, UH, IT'S MINIMAL RENOVATION REQUIRED, AND IT DOES CONSOLIDATE THOSE FUNCTIONS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
THERE'S A RENOVATION PRICE POINT FOR THIS FACILITY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY, THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR ONLY.
AND THEN OUR LAST TOPIC FOR TODAY IS THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE ON BAY STREET, FEDERAL COURTHOUSE ON BAY STREET.
UM, UH, THIS WAS, UH, AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT TO SEE IF THIS COULD ACTUALLY HELP THE CURRENT EXISTING LEC ADDRESS.
SOME OF THEIR, UM, LIMITED SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.
UM, CURRENTLY THEIR EXISTING FACILITY IS MAXED OUT.
UM, PEOPLE ARE WORKING PRETTY MUCH IN EVERY, EVERY CORNER OF THAT BUILDING.
UM, SO THEIR NEEDS ARE PRETTY GREAT.
UM, WHEN WE THINK OF HOW THE PROJECT IS PHASING ALONG, UM, WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'VE ALREADY COVERED, UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALREADY BEYOND THEIR NEEDS.
AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THIS BUILDING AS A POTENTIAL RELEASE VALVE, BEFORE THEY CAN GET TO A NEW FACILITY THAT WOULD BE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND FUNCTION THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO, UM, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE.
SO ON THE FIRST FLOOR I'M LOOKING AT, UH, IF, IF WE CAN KEEP, UM, THE, LET'S SEE, I CAN'T READ THAT FAR AWAY.
UM, THE ENFORCEMENT AND PATROL DIVISION, UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE ADMINISTRATION IN THE MIDDLE, UM, AND THEN KIND OF THE CITIZEN AND STAFF MANAGEMENT, UM, AND THE MAIN OFFICE TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ON THAT FIRST FLOOR.
AND THEN IF WE MOVE TO THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, WE HAVE, UH, KIND OF THE SHERIFF COMMAND ON THE UPPER LEVEL.
AND THEN, UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS KIND OF WHERE THE CIRCULATION ENDS UP BEING FOR THIS BUILDING.
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THE MAIN STAIRS AND THERE'S AN ELEVATOR.SO THAT'S KIND OF DEFINING YOUR SECURE PERIMETER WITHIN THE BUILDING WILL REMAIN ON THE LEFT FOR THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR.
THEY ALSO HAVE A BASEMENT LEVEL, WHICH WE WERE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THIS BUILDING.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW INVESTIGATIONS COULD FIT THERE.
WHAT'S WHAT'S TO BE KNOWN ABOUT THIS BUILDING IS ALTHOUGH IT'S A, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A RELEASE VALVE TO HELP, UM, GIVE THEM SOME EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THE SYNERGY OF HAVING ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN ONE PLACE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE DECENTRALIZING SOME OF THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT HAVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WITHIN THIS BUILDING AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THEIR IT DIVISION WITHIN THIS BUILDING, AS WELL AS THIS WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE AN INTERIM SOLUTION.
THIS CANNOT BE A FINAL SOLUTION BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE AS THEIR EXISTING BUILDING.
SO THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT IT IS AN OLD EXISTING COURTHOUSE.
IT WAS BUILT TO HAVE A CERTAIN FOOTPRINT.
IT HAS ITS OWN STRUCTURAL GRID.
THE WAY THAT IT'S BUILT IS LOAD BEARING, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY EASY TO MODIFY.
SO WE ARE KIND OF STUCK WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, UNLESS YOU WANT TO INVEST SIGNIFICANT COST.
SO I THINK WE BROKE LITERALLY JUST TOUCHED ON THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE CHALLENGES.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, THE, THE RENOVATIONS TO, TO BRING THAT UP TO A USABLE STATE, UH, AND, AND, AND A BEAUTIFUL ONE, IT COULD BE, WOULD BE, UH, AROUND 2.2.
SO AS WE ROUND OUT HERE, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOUCH ON SOME OF THE POSITIVE ASPECTS.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAINLY BASED ON CURRENT GIS INFORMATION, UH, PLANNING THESE FACILITIES WOULD ALLOW TO OFFLOAD OTHERS.
SO THERE'S AN OFFSET IN TERMS OF OVERALL COSTS.
UH, AND THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE.
THERE, IT, IT, IT, IT, UM, IT WOULD BE VIABLE AS THESE OTHER SITES ARE BROUGHT ONLINE.
AND THEN THE LAST TOPIC WE'LL TOUCH ON, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK JUST RELATED TO COVID IS THAT WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE TALKED WITH ALL OF YOUR STAFF ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUALLY.
SEVERAL FOLKS LEARNED NEW THINGS AS THEY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, BUT NOTHING THAT OVERLY DREW, UM, A DESIRE TO NOT HAVING FOOTPRINT STILL FOR SERVICES, PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME.
IT CAN LEAD US TO HAVING FLEX OFFICES THAT CAN MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, EFFICIENT IN THE OFFICE.
BUT I THINK AS AN OVERRIDING TOPIC, EVERYONE SAW IT AS A TEMPORARY AND NOT A PERMANENT CONSTRAINT AND WAS, WAS SORT OF A LIMITED ON BEING WILLING TO RELEASE SPACE PERMANENTLY ALONG THOSE LINES.
THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU ON, AND I'M SORRY THAT WE RAN SO FAR OVER, IT WAS A LOT.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO BACK TO THIS, JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS.
NUMBER ONE, IN THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE REBO ROAD, DOWNGRADE CAMPUS WAS THE CONSIDERATION OF PUTTING, UM, ALL OF THE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND, HAVING FIBER, CONNECTING ALL OF THE BUILDINGS FOR IT, HAVING, UM, TO BUILDINGS, TO HAVE THOSE BUILDINGS ABLE TO FUNCTION WITH THE GENERATORS IN CASE OF, UH, BAD WEATHER, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AND SPECIFIC WITH REGARDS TO THE FACT THAT YOU'VE INVESTED A LOT OF THAT STREAM TO GET, UH, THE SERVER ROOM TO BE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF ARTHUR HORN.
SO THE TRUNK IS BEING BROUGHT HERE ALREADY.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EASILY EXPANDED UPON.
THEN THE LAST LITTLE TIDBIT FOR ME IS I SAW ALL OF THE WONDERFUL LANDSCAPING, UH, DESIGNS, THE TREES.
SO I HOPE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TREES ON THERE TO PAY FOR ALL OF THIS WAITING FOR ONE OF THOSE TO COME OUT WELL, WE'LL PLAY WITHIN THAT COST OR, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT COMES TO JUSTICE FACILITIES, SPECIFICALLY THE DETENTION CENTER, ALL OF THAT GUTS HAVE A SECONDARY OPERATION.
SO THERE WOULD BE GENERATORS AND ALL OF THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THOSE COSTS.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS? JUST ONE, UH, WENT BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE SHERIFF, UM, PROPOSAL TO THE NEW COURTHOUSE.
I MEAN THE OLD COURTHOUSE, UM, AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE AT THIS TIME.
UM, SO EVEN GOING THERE NOW DOES NOT ADDRESS THE LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT.
ERIC, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING I CAN ADDRESS THAT MORE DETAIL FOR YOU? THAT IS CORRECT FOR YOU.
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THANK YOU.SO WITH REGARDS TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, VERSUS WHAT PRESENT NEEDS ARE, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH CURRENT SHERIFF, IT WAS WE'RE PROGRAMMING HIS SPACE FOR THE TENURE OF HIS SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.
AS SHERIFF LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER WOULD COME, UH, MOST LIKELY BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM AFTER THE CURRENT SHERIFF IS OUT OF OFFICE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, SECOND THING I WOULD TELL Y'ALL ONE THING COUNSEL NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF AND POSSIBLY CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW IN BEAVER COUNTY, WE'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF SPACE IN EXISTING COUNTY BUILDINGS, FREE OF CHARGE TO OUTSIDE THE AGENCIES THAT ARE USING OUR SPACE.
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE PAYING RENT, UH, COZY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.
WE'RE RENTING A HOUSE TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR COUNTY FACILITIES WHILE WE'RE GIVING AWAY FREE SPACE IN EXISTING COUNTY BUILDINGS, TO OUTSIDE AGENCIES WHO ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING TO THE COUNTY.
AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU ON A LATER DATE FOR CONSIDERATION ON RECTIFYING, SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
SO JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR OF SO THAT WHENEVER WE DO DISCUSS THAT, I NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION.
HOW DO I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE HIGH? IT COULD BE OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW TO BE HIGHLY POLITICAL, BUT YOU'RE LIKELY TO HEAR, I MEAN, WHENEVER YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE SPACE FREE, AND THEN YOU SAY, HEY, YOU EITHER GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE OR START PAYING RENT, THEN YOU'RE YOU ALL AS COUNTS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE, UM, THE LAB FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
IF THAT LAST SIDE SHOWED SELLING THAT FACILITY, WOULD THEY BE CONSOLIDATED WITH THE NEW LEC, WHEREVER THAT YEAH, EITHER, EITHER NEW LOC OR THE NEW SPECIAL OPS SYNDROME, WE'D FIND A SPACE FOR THEM TO GO.
SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, I DIDN'T THINK WHENEVER I SAID THAT WOULD ONLY BE AN HOUR.
I DID NOT REALLY THINK THAT WOULD GO JUST AN HOUR.
I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A COMPLEX DISCUSSION.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AS LONG TODAY, AS YOU ALL WANT US TO GO.
UH, WHENEVER YOU ALL ARE TIRED AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH TO DATE THAT WE CAN CLOSE OUT THE WORKSHOP FOR YOU, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY NEEDED A BREAK RIGHT NOW.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTION.
FIVE MINUTE BREAK, COME BACK IN, TALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF MINUTES, WHAT WE JUST HEARD AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT MORE TO BE DONE TODAY, OR SHUT UP ANOTHER MEETING, BECAUSE THIS IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.
SO LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK AT NINE MINUTES, COME BACK AT 360.
THIS IS THE SALT MARSH AND ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND PRODUCTIVE HABITATS ON EARTH.
IT'S HOME TO AN INCREDIBLE DIVERSITY OF MARINE, INVERTEBRATES FISH, AND EVEN REPTILE SPECIES LIKE THIS DIAMOND.
PACTERA MANY OF THE ANIMALS THAT LIVE HERE, GROW UP IN THE SPAR TYNA NURSERY BEFORE THEY MOVE INTO THE RIVERS.
JOIN US FOR COASTAL KINGDOM, A FIELD TRIP TO THE LOW COUNTRY, AND A CHANCE TO MEET SOME OF THE ANIMALS THAT LIVE HERE.
DISASTER PLANNING CONSISTS OF THREE SIMPLE STEPS, MAKE A PLAN, BUILD A KIT, STAND FOR THEM.
EVERY FAMILY SHOULD HAVE A PLAN FOR HOW THEY WILL COMMUNICATE DURING AN EMERGENCY AND WHERE THEY WILL MEET IF SEPARATED, HAVING BASIC EMERGENCY SUPPLIES ON HAND, WHEN KEEP YOU ALIVE DURING THE DISASTER MONITORED LOCAL RADIO STATIONS FOR IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND UPDATES VISIT ECSO.NET.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UM, PRETRIAL ASSOCIATES DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF THE TASK THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TODAY, UH, THAT DESERVES, UM, A DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY, AND THE DRY CHAIN, THE, THE DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS? AND HOW DO WE DIRECT ADMINISTRATION? SO LET'S TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO ELEMENTS OF THIS IS WHAT'S HEARD A LOT OF THINGS.
EACH OF WHOM MAY HAVE AN IMPRESSION OF WHAT
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YOU LEARNED TODAY, UM, WHAT YOU THOUGHT AND WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE AND HOW WE WANT TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION.OBVIOUSLY ADMINISTRATION LIVES THIS ON A DAILY BASIS.
UH, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I NEED THEM TO SAY TO US, BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU HERE ARE THE TOP THREE, TOP FIVE, TOP 10, WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH AND SAY, IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THE JOB FOR THE COUNTY OF BUFORD HERE IS WHERE WE MOVED TO NOW AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE? OR ARE WE GOING TO FINANCE THIS? HOW LONG IT GOING TO TAKE, THIS IS A 30 YEAR PLAN.
WELL, IN 30 YEARS BUILDING ALL OF THIS STUFF, IT'S GOING TO BE A PHENOMENAL COST, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
SO I'M AN OPEN IT UP TO THOSE OF YOU IN COUNSELING AND ONLINE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, HOW DO WE DIRECT ADMINISTRATION? ANYBODY WANTS TO START? WELL, I'LL TAKE A CHANCE TO GO AHEAD.
UM, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, UM, IN THIS PLAN AND, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, DIRECTIONS AND PROPOSAL FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND STOP THE CAR CAUSING WHAT'S IMPORTANT NOW FOR US TO MOVE ON AND SEE HOW THAT, UM, PLAYS OUT.
UM, BECAUSE IF YOU DO ONE THING HERE, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING HILLS OVER HERE LATER.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR ME HAVING THESE, THE, THE STAFF TO GIVE US A TOP PRIORITY AND OUT OF USING LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS AN EXAMPLE AT LAW ENFORCEMENT, DETERMINING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IS A TOP PRIORITY THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON THAT I'M NOT SAYING LAW ENFORCEMENT IS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER MOVING PARTS, AS IT RELATES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT MOVING OUT AND HOW WE HANDLED THE DETENTION CENTER, IT SEEMS LIKE ON THIS SITE RIGHT HERE WHERE WE ARE, UH, THE DETENTION CENTER IS A DRIVING FORCE FOR US, WHICH INCLUDES OR IMPACTS GOING FORWARD.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD GIVE US SOME KIND OF DIRECTION ON WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT THEY CONSIDER.
AND THEN, UM, WE CAN START PUTTING THE LITTLE PIECES TOGETHER, THE PUZZLE TOGETHER AS WE MOVED TO WATER 30 YEAR, UM, OUTREACH.
I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT OBSERVATION.
YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRALIZATION OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS THAT SEEM TO WORK HAND IN HAND.
UH, THAT'S WHAT I DREW FROM THIS.
OH, THAT'S, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT AFTERWARD.
SO YOU COME IN THE GROUP THAT COME IN THEM FOR THE STUDY, THEY DID, THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
UM, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
UH, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL SEVEN YEARS AND, UH, THE DETENTION CENTER IN EMS AND PUBLIC WORKS WHEN I TOOK TOURS OF THOSE, MY FIRST YEAR, I WAS APPALLED AT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES WERE WORKING UNDER.
AND ALSO THE CONDITIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO CHOICE ON WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE DETENTION CENTER.
I THINK STAFF PROBABLY KNOWS WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, BUT THIS GIVES US THE BASIS TO GO FORWARD.
BUT THOSE THREE TO ME, UM, I PERSONALLY THINK SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
UH, ALL, ALL OF THEM ARE OF A CONCERN, BUT I THINK EMS AND, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AN EASIER FIX THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
AND, UM, OF COURSE THE DETENTION CENTER, WHICH HAS AS YOUR PUT SO WELL, UM, A, A OTHER CONSEQUENCES TO THAT, BUT IT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
LOGAN COMMENTS, JUST PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW I'M JUST TRYING TO SOAK IN A LOT ON SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT, UM, THE DETENTION CENTER IS GOING TO BE A BIG ONE WHEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, I'M REALLY CURIOUS FOR THE THREE THAT THEY WERE GIVING US THE BEGINNING.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE MAIN FOCUS IF WE WANT TO REBUILD OR TEAR DOWN AND START OVER, UM, CREATING THOSE OPTIONS IS I THINK GONNA HAVE TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST DECISIONS WE'VE MADE, UM, IN THAT AREA,
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WE CAN GO WITH THE OTHERS AS WELL.JANE WERE INDICATING WHAT THE DETENTION CENTER, THE WAY THE PROGRAM WAS FOR THE DETENTION CENTER.
THE WAY IT OPERATES NOW IS NOT THE WAY THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE WAY A DETENTION CENTER SHOULD OPERATE.
THE FUTURE WOULD BE CREATE A NEW DEBT DETENTION CENTER.
THAT AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS FROM WHAT THEY SAID.
UM, I THINK THAT WE HAD A SHIFT, UM, IN POPULATION AND I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING I'VE BEEN AWARE OF FOR A LONG TIME, BRINGING MANY MORE PEOPLE SEEKING AREAS WHERE WE HAVE ANY ADEQUATE FACILITIES AND STAFF.
UM, WE HAVE A CONCENTRATION HOW OUR COUNTY CAMPUS, AS IT SHOULD GREET THE POPULATION THAT WERE SHOPPING.
THIS IS TERRIBLE NOW, BUT PEOPLE OVERALL IN THE BLACKSBURG AREA IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THAT MYRTLE PARK FACILITY INADEQUATE AT THE MOMENT.
AND I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OVER THERE, UM, WHEN THERE'S COMMAND SERVICE CROWDS CAN BECOME, UM, QUITE BIG, UH, I THINK THE MAGISTRATE COURT THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE SERVING A LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE.
AND I TRIED TO CONVINCE THE COUNTY LEADERS YEARS AGO.
THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT ON THAT SPACE THERE, RIGHT AT WALK OUT THE BACK DOOR.
WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT, UM, BUT EVERYTHING UP ON THE THIRD FLOOR WHERE THEY HAVE THAT, UM, BULKY STOP YOUR SALARY FOR ALL OF THE SERVICE.
IT'S VERY CROWDED RUSH THAT DEMAND FOR SERVICE.
ANYWAY, I THINK THAT THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE REALLY SEE WHAT, UM, OUR CONSTITUENT BASE NEEDS BASED ON WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THEY HAVE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SOME AREAS ARE FINE THAT THERE'S INADEQUATE PUBLIC SPACE FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT OUR COMMUNITY MIGHT BE GROWING RAPIDLY.
WHEN YOU WANT TO GO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SECOND, WHAT A COUNSELING.
I WAS JUST OVER AT THE OFFICE LAST WEEK.
AND, UH, IT, IT IS MADE AN UPDATE AT THE VERY LEAST OVER THERE BASED ON THE POPULATION COMING HERE.
SORRY ABOUT JIM MANYA AIRCRAFT.
AND CLEARLY IT DID SHOW THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS AND STAFFING THERE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE GONE BY ADMINISTRATION PREACHING, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, UM, PERSONALLY, I NEED SOME TIME TO DIGEST NESS.
I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STICKER SHOCK AT THE MOMENT.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT'S REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IS KIND OF WHERE YOU WORKED STAND ABOUT PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US GET THIS INTO A STRATEGY WHERE WE'RE COVERING THE FINANCIAL NEEDS, WHERE WE'RE RECOVERING THE WORKFORCE NEEDS THE ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS.
WE'RE RECOVERING THE SERVICES THAT OUR POPULATION CURRENTLY NEEDS, AND I'LL READ IN THE FUTURE, BUT REALLY TURNING THAT INTO A COHERENT STRATEGY, AS OPPOSED TO JUST A ONE-OFF.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH DUSTIN, GERALD.
YOU'RE NEXT? YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE.
I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS OUTSTANDING LIKE THIS.
I NEED SOME TIME TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE JUST GIVEN CRUCIAL DECISION MAKERS, BUILDINGS, SPACE, THE WHOLE GAMUT OF THINGS.
BUT IF WE GIVE OUR MINISTRY TIME AS WELL AND GIVE US SOME OR SOME SUGGESTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN WAIT ON THAT AND MAKE THE ULTIMATE GOAL, BUT
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WE DIDN'T HAVE THERE FOR FUTURE.YOU'RE NEXT? AND THEN PAUL, UH, YES.
UM, AND NOT TO MAKE LIGHT OF THE SITUATION, IT'S KINDA LIKE, UH, GOING TO LUNCH AND, UH, SOMEONE SAID, DO YOU WANT A HAM SANDWICH, A CHICKEN SANDWICH? OR DO YOU WANT A ROAST BEEF SANDWICH? BECAUSE I THINK THAT ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS, THERE ARE ALL THREE OF THOSE OPTIONS WE SAW WERE ACTUALLY OPTIONS THAT I COULD LIVE WITH.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PUT US IN A BETTER SITUATION THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT ALWAYS GOES BACK TO, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT MR. HERBERT SEAN ALWAYS SAYS, WHICH IS WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM AND WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE MONEY TO DO IT? SO, UM, I, AGAIN, I, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WHAT WE SAW.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING A COMBINATION, UM, OF, OF A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT, THAT END UP BEING PUT TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT WHAT'S THE BEST FROM OUR, FROM OUR STAFF.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE THAT WORKED ON THAT.
I DID SAY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PLANT IN EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
OH, YOU'RE THE LAST ONE WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN JUST A WHOLE FIELD.
DID YOU, DID YOU RECOGNIZE ME, JOE? I DID.
WELL, OF COURSE WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS AND, UH, EACH ONE TAKES A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TWIST AND TURN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO CERTAINLY GIVE STAFF SOME DIRECTION ON THAT ONE, UH, A, B OR C, BUT IF THIS IS IN FACT, A 30 YEAR PROJECT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANY PROJECTIONS THAT CAN GO OUT THAT FAR, UM, INCLUDING THIS ONE, BUT, UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DIRECT STAFF.
ONCE WE'VE PICKED A, B OR C TO SAY SET ASIDE X DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET ON AN ONGOING AND CONTINUING BASIS AND SAY, OKAY, HERE ARE THE, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE PROJECT HERE ARE THE COMPONENTS, AND HERE ARE THE PRIORITIES.
AND WHAT CAN YOU DO IN YEAR ONE? AND THEN ON INTO YEAR TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH A PIECEMEAL, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOTS AND LOTS OF COMPETING, UM, DEMANDS FOR THESE FUNDS.
UM, AND, UH, THAT ARE PROBABLY ARGUABLY MORE CRITICAL THAN ANYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
SO, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO TELL STAFF, WE WANT YOU TO SET ASIDE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT IN OUR 8%.
I CAN'T SEE US DOING A REFERENDUM ON THIS.
UM, SOME OF YOU MAY SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT OF GF, UM, X NUMBER OF DOLLARS A YEAR, UH, AND, AND 8% DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT ON 8% RIGHT NOW? I THINK THAT'S STRUCTURING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT THE FINANCE OF THIS 30 YEAR PLAN IS FOR HOW GOING TO NEED TO UTILIZE THESE STAFFS.
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE 30 YEARS TO BUILD THIS BECAUSE YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO THIS IN 30 YEARS.
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT DO WE NEED NOW? WHAT IS THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE CLEARLY, HOW YOU HEARD THREE THINGS, ONE A PLAN FOR THE CAMPUS, DOWNTOWN CITY OF BUFORD, AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO THERE? WHAT DO WE WANT TO GET THERE? WHAT FITS BEST THERE? SECOND, WE HAVE PROPERTIES AROUND COUNTY.
WE HAVE PROPERTIES IN HILTON HEAD THAT SERVES TO MEET THOSE POPULATIONS.
THEY NEED TO BE EXPANDED AND RENOVATED FOR THE POPULATION THAT'S BEING SERVED THERE.
AND THIRD, WE HAVE THEIR FACILITIES, OUR PUBLIC WORKS OUR EMS, AND WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THOSE? SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ATTACK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TOO, TO ERIC, THIS TASK, THEY'VE HEARD, WE SAID WHAT WE THINK HE SAID AND WHAT WE THINK WE WANT TO DO.
IT'S FOR THEM NOW TO COME BACK AND SAY, BASED UPON WHAT WE HEARD, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD DO.
HERE'S WHAT WE THINK THE PRIORITIES ARE.
HERE'S HOW WE THINK WE CAN PAY FOR THIS.
I NOTICED THAT EACH ONE OF THE OPTIONS INCLUDES THE, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT USED TO BE THE PIGGLY WIGGLY ADJACENT ONTO CROSS, UH, REBO ROAD FROM THAT, FROM OUR CAMPUS.
SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S SITTING IDLE AND PROBABLY THERE WILL BE, EVEN THOUGH THE MARKET, THE REAL ESTATE MARKET OVERALL IS VERY HIGH.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'LL BE A BETTER TIME TO LOCK THAT DOWN, BECAUSE IF THEY, THEY PUT A MARRIOTT OVER THERE OR SOMETHING, IT'LL SUDDENLY BE UNAVAILABLE TO US FOREVER.
SO I JUST, I, I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, SHOULD BE A PRIORITY CONSIDERING THAT IT'S IN ALL THREE OPTIONS.
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THAT A FAIR ASSUMPTION TO ASK ADMINISTRATION NOW TO COME BACK TO US WITH WHAT THEY SURMISE, THEY HEARD TODAY AS A PREPARATORY PLAN FOR US TO DIGEST EVERYBODY OKAY.JOE, CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? UM, SOMETIME IS, SHOULD BE, UM, GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION PARAMETERS RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, THEY SHOULD NOT TOUCH OR CONSIDER OR GIVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS TO WHEN THEY DO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONE OF THE PARAMETERS I HAVE, UM, I THINK JOEL, YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER ABOUT, UH, RAISING BUILDINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM RAISING BUILDINGS IF THEY'RE OBSOLETE, WHETHER THEY CAN BE RENOVATED.
UH, I PREFER MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD PREFER MOVING THAT DIRECTION.
UM, SO TO ME THAT WOULD BE A PARAMETER THAT I WOULD WANT TO PUT ON THIS, UM, RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, UM, WE CONSIDER ALL THE USE OF THAT BUILDING BEFORE WE EVEN THINK ABOUT RAISING IT, JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT PERCEPTION WITH YEAR TWO, I THINK THEY HEARD US LOUD AND CLEAR THAT IT WOULD BE PREFERENTIAL IF WE COULD BE, HAVE THE BUILDING TO REHAB IT, US, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THE DETENTION CENTER THAT CLEARLY THEY SAID OUR CURRENT DETENTION CENTER DOES NOT FIT MODERN CONCEPT OF HOW YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF POPULATION IN THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY NEED.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING IN THAT ROAD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, JUST TEARING IT DOWN DOES NOT SEEM TO BE, UH, A REASONABLE WAY OF DOING THINGS.
WHEN YOU HAVE A URBAN SITE, WE HAVE BUILDINGS AND PROPERTY ARE IN THEIR PRECIOUS COMMODITIES AND YOU ALREADY RESOLUTION MONDAY NIGHT, THE ALLOWS US TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THESE EXISTING FACILITIES.
SO IT WOULD BE MY POSITION IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO BE REMOVING THEM.
SO YOU'VE HEARD US LOUD AND CLEAR AS TO THE KIND OF DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO TAKE, UM, AND COME UP WITH SOME CONCEPTUAL PLANS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK BASED ON WHAT CREECH HAS PRESENTED TO US TODAY, UH, WHERE YOU THINK WE SHOULD GO, UH, HOW LONG YOU THINK IT MIGHT TAKE AND HOW YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS, WE CAN DO THAT AND WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU AND YOU, AND I CAN TALK ABOUT WHICH COMMITTEE THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK BEFORE OF CHART.
ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES IS VERY, VERY, VERY BUSY WITH ALL SORTS OF PROJECTS GOING ON.
SO YOU AND I WILL DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT IT MIGHT NEED TO GO TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO.
NOW IF IT'S OKAY WITH, UM, COUNTY OFFICIALS, IT'S FOUR 10, WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
THERE IS ONE OTHER OPPORTUNITY.
BRITTANY HAS PREPARED, UM, RESULTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON SOME COUNTY PROPERTIES THAT YOU RECEIVED TODAY.
UM, THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL THING THAT I WOULD CONSIDER DOING TODAY, IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYBODY.
AND THEN WE'LL SHUT HER DOWN AND HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THE REST OF THE ITEMS THAT OKAY.
UH, THEN, UM, BRITTANY, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO, UM, DO YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND I'LL MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A COPY OF THIS EARLIER TODAY AS, OKAY.
UH, THE POWERPOINT'S GONNA BE USED AS A REFERENCE, UM, FOR YOU TO SEE VISUALLY BE, UM, PROVIDED WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED.
I'M GOING TO START IN THE NORTHERN AREA OF THE COUNTY AND MOVE SOUTH TOWARDS HILLHEAD.
UH, I WANT TO PREFACE THIS, THAT IN ASSESSING THE PROPERTIES, I DID NOT LOOK INTO ANY RIGHT OF WAYS OR EASEMENTS THAT ARE BEING HELD BY THE COUNTY.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY OF THAT HERE.
I ALSO LIMITED THE SCOPE OF THE PROPERTIES.
THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED THE RURAL AND CRITICAL, BUT ANY PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY BEEN DESIGNATED BY STEPHANIE AND AJIT OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY STAFF AS A PROPERTY OWNED BY RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM.
AND THEN IN FACT ALREADY HAS A PARK ON THE PROPERTY OR HAS, UM, FUTURE PLANS FOR A PART IN YOUR FUTURE PLANS FOR A HEART ON
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HIS MOM RAISED.SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO STIPULATIONS I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A LIST OF DSN HOMES, UM, THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY.
UM, TYPICALLY DSN HOMES ARE PURCHASED THROUGH GRANT FUNDS THAT HAVE STIPULATIONS ON THEM.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST, UM, TO RELIEVE US OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO OTHERWISE, UM, I'VE NEVER DONE THE SCOPE, UM, TWO PROPERTIES THAT I'LL DEEM AS POTENTIAL OR OUR SURPLUS.
SO STARTING THE NORTH IS THE PAGE POINT AREA.
THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTIES THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEM ON THE LIST THAT I PROVIDED IN THE SUMMARY, UH, STARTING WITH THE FIRST ONE WAS 4 65 PAGE POINT.
THIS IS A PIECE OF VACANT LAND.
IT WAS PROVIDED TO US BANK, UM, AS A, UM, EXCHANGE FOR PAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD, UM, THE VALUE OF $7,900.
I HAVE HAD AN INTERESTED PARTY, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED AN APPRAISAL.
UH, NEXT IS GOING TO BE 7 43 PAGE POINT, WHICH IS ALSO THE, UM, ONE C AND ONE B AND ONE C WE'RE PART OF THE SAME TRANSACTION.
THEN THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS GOING ON.
WE NEEDED AN EASEMENT THROUGH ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND EXCHANGE FOR PROVIDING A ROAD ACCESS TO A THIRD PROPERTY.
WE WERE GIVEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES HERE.
THERE IS A DEED RESTRICTION ON ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH IS 7 43, WHICH PROVIDES THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER, THE RIGHT TO HUNT ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL WE SELL IT AT ANY FUTURE.
SO THAT, UM, THAT RIGHT TO HUNT WILL BE EXTINGUISHED.
ONCE WE DECIDE TO SELL IT UM, SO THOSE PROPERTIES IN TOTAL ARE ABOUT 11 ACRES.
THEY ARE SEPARATE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE LAST ONE IS A ONE D 6 1 6 PAGE POINTS.
I'VE ALSO HAD AN INTERESTED PARTY IN THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD AN APPRAISAL ON IT, BUT IT IS A PIECE OF VACANT LAND.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE FOUR? DID YOU SAY 7 43? IT WAS 200 ACRES OR 108.
THOSE ARE, THAT IS ABOUT 11 ACRES, 11, APPROXIMATELY.
AND ALL OF THESE ARE POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE PROPERTIES THAT SOMEBODY COULD PURCHASE AND DO SOMETHING WITH DOVE SCREW THING ON THEM.
AT THIS TIME, UM, IN PRESENTING THIS AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THIS.
I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE COUNTY TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND ASK WHETHER OR NOT THESE PROPERTIES WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR ANY USE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.
UM, SO IN SPEAKING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, NOBODY STEPPED UP TO SAY ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES WOULD BE A VALUE TO THEM, UM, FOR USE ON THESE SYSTEMS. OKAY.
AND CURRENTLY YOU SAID SOME OF THESE HAVE APPRAISAL ON THEM, BUT NOT ALL OF THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THEREFORE WE SHOULD GET APPRAISALS ON ALL OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CURRENT MARKET.
UM, PROPERTY IS WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
SO THIS MAY BE A VERY GOOD TIME TO DISPOSE OF PROPERTIES THAT WE DON'T NEED.
ALICE, UM, IN YOUR COUNTY WATER, JUST ONE OF THEM? NO.
BUT THAT ISN'T A NEIGHBOR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, SO IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THAT AREA OR THAT STRIP OF ROAD.
IF I MIGHT ASK, I MIGHT ASK, UM, ONE BIG 11 ACRES.
STILL SEE YOU AS THE 11 WEEKS.
ONCE WE NOW SEE IS 3.7, SEVEN ACRES, MAYBE AND C IS 11 ACRES.
AND NONE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD HAVE ANY FUTURE, UM, INSIGHT OR USEFUL ANY OF THAT PROPERTY.
I HAVE NOT HAD ANY STEP UP WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS.
ANY TUMOR IN THAT MAN? ANY OF IT WORTH MARKETABLE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
I MEAN, AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO THAT IF POSSIBLE, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
UM, AGAIN, I MEAN FOR NINE ACRES THAT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE, THE OTHERS ARE FAIRLY SMALL, SO WOULD PRESUME IT'D BE UNLIKELY.
NEXT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DOWNTOWN TO THE CITY OF BUFORD.
WE JUST HAD THE ANALYSIS ON THE USES OF THE BUILDINGS.
THERE IS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, IN SPEAKING WITH MARK ROSEN, NOW HE POINTED OUT TO ME, IT IS AT THE CORNER OF 2 81 AND DUKE STREET.
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LOT.IT WAS PURCHASED BACK IN 1990.
UM, UH, SPEAKING WITH MR. ROSEN.
NOW THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IT.
UH, IT IS A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND AS FAR AS THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS OF PUTTING ANY, UH, COUNTY BUILDINGS ON IT, IT IS AN ACRE.
AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. ROSANO STATED THAT THERE'S NOT A USE IN THE FUTURE FOR IT.
UM, ALL THESE ARE GOOD IDEAS, BUT, UM, I KEEP THINKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT'D BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE DECIDED TO SELL, OH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST BRINGING TO THE FOREFRONT AND I THINK PART OF THIS WHOLE ANALYSIS AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS OUT THERE BECAUSE I, I, MY BELIEF THAT WE KIND OF FORGET WHAT WE OWN SOMETIMES.
UM, SO THIS IS SURPLUS PROPERTY.
IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR IT, I'M SURE THAT'S TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF AT THE MINISTRY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IDEAS.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD, WE HAVE NOT, YOU.
AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF POTENTIALLY SELLING A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS AREA FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT ANALYSIS, BUT IN LIFE.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS DISCUSSION IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT FACILITIES.
UH, UM, PLAN IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IF YOU ALL WANT US TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS, THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UH, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF THIS PARCEL TO THE OTHER PARCEL THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
MOVING A LITTLE BIT MORE SOUTH TO LADY'S ISLAND TO PORT ROYAL.
UM, WE WILL START WITH CLM PARKWAY, WHICH IS OVER NEAR THE AIRPORT.
UM, IT IS, IT BACKS UP TO, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH STORMWATER THAT IT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE TO USE IT FOR THE STORMWATER PROGRAM.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.
AND JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A VACANT LOT THERE.
UM, I'M SURE THAT I'M UNSURE OF THE VALUE ON IT.
UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF POSSIBLY STORM WATER, SOMEBODY IN PUBLIC WORKS CAN USE IT, BUT IT'S THERE NEXT IS 1408 PARIS AVENUE.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT'S OCCUPIED BY THE BEAVER COUNTY COUNCIL ON AGING, UM, WHICH AGAIN, IN A REVIEW OF, UH, COUNTY BUILDINGS MIGHT BE FEASIBLE TO MOVE THEM AND LEAVE THIS PROPERTY, UM, AVAILABLE FOR SALE.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TWO AND THEY DO NOT PAY RENT AT THIS TIME.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NO RENT BEING PAID ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT I CANNOT CONFIRM THAT, OKAY, NEXT IS GOING TO BE THE SHELL POINT AREA.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ON THE MAP.
SO, UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE FAMILIAR WITH
UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS CONVEYED TO US BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THERE ARE SOME STIPULATIONS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, AS FAR AS USE GOES, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE USED FOR SOME TYPE OF RECREATIONAL USE.
UM, OTHERWISE IT DOES HAVE TO BE CONVEYED BACK AND THE PROFITS HAVE TO BE PROVIDED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, I KNOW THERE HAS POTENTIALLY BEEN SOME INTEREST MAYBE BY SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ON IT.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT THIS COULD BE A PLACE FOR A PROJECT.
AND AGAIN, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VACANT LOT THERE THAT WE OWN.
UM, THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY THE DEED THAT CONVEYED IT OVER.
IT HAS NOT BEEN SURVEYED SINCE THE EIGHTIES.
UM, AND EVEN THEN IT WAS QUESTIONABLE, WHICH PARCELS, THIS ONE ACTUALLY ENCUMBERED BECAUSE THEY CONVEYED OVER ABOUT NINE DIFFERENT LOSS.
UM, AND THERE WAS EASEMENTS AND RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON EACH ONE OF THEM, I THINK.
AND PLEASE CHUCK IT KIND OF IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S ABOUT 15 TO 16 PAGE DEED.
UM, SO TO GO THROUGH IT, I HAVE NOT DUG INTO THAT.
UM, SO I CAN'T ANSWER YOU NOW, BUT I CAN LET YOU KNOW.
I WOULD SAY IF I WAS GO AHEAD, IF I WAS GOING TO ESTIMATE, I BELIEVE CHUCK, IF I CAME TO A CONCLUSION BEFORE IS ABOUT 5, 8, 5, 6, LIKE THAT.
SO THIS ONE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL.
IS IT ACTUALLY BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE DOWNFALL OR NOT? THAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.
YEAH, IT HAS NOT BEEN A BAN WILLIS.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM SOME TIME AGO AND THE QUESTION WAS IF IT COULD BE SOLD AND BROUGHT INTO THE TOWN AND DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED DIGGING AND WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THIS WAS BROUGHT OVER THE SAME TIME AS BURTON WELLS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A, UH, WELL REPEATING STATION.
IT WAS PART OF SUPPLYING WATER TO, UH, PARIS
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ISLAND SOME NEW YEARS AGO.UM, SO THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS FOR THE USE OF THE TOWN.
IT WAS SO THE TOWN COULD BRING IT INTO DEVELOPMENT INTO, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT TO PRODUCE TAXES.
DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO YOU GO BACK TO PALMETTO STREET.
HOW DID WE GET THAT ONE? THAT'S A REAL ODD ONE.
THIS WAS DATED OUR, WE PURCHASED THIS ONE FROM THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEING USED AS THE COUNCIL FOR AGING.
NO, THE ONE IN PALMETTO RIDGE STREET.
THE ONE, DID YOU HAVE THIS BE IN SHELL POINT? WHAT IS THAT ONE? UM, I AM NOT SURE WHEN WE BOUGHT THAT ONE FROM, I DID NOT HAVE IT ON MY RECORDS HERE.
CAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED UP WITH ANOTHER ONE TO ON ADON.
AND I WILL EMAIL ALL THOSE ANSWERS TO YOU.
UM, MOVING DOWN TO HIGHWAY ONE 70, WE JUST RECENTLY DISCUSSED THIS ONE, THAT PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I DID INCLUDE THE, WHERE THE SHERIFF IS LOCATED, UM, IN THE SPECIAL OPS BUILDINGS, AGAIN, UNSURE OF WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BE LOCATED, WHERE YOU ARE MOVING THEM.
UM, PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THAT WE SHOWED IT.
SO, BUT, UH, THEY'RE ON HERE AS FIVE A AND FIVE BEING BOTH ARE ONE PURCHASE IN 2009.
THE OTHER IN 2013, UH, I ALSO INCLUDED ON HERE A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF THERE TOWARDS THE WATER.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AT THE END OF THE CAMP ST.
MARY'S, UM, PARCEL FIVE C ON THIS 1 21 CAME TO ST.
THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BACK IN 1997 FOR $500,000.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS PURCHASED WITH GENERAL FUNDS.
UM, BUT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE, UH, PUT INTO POSSIBLY THE WORLD CRITICAL PROGRAM RIGHT NOW THAT'S PART OF THE PARKS AND REC PROGRAM POTENTIALLY.
SO THAT IS A PROPERTY THAT'S FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM BEING UNUSED AT THE MOMENT.
NO, THOSE ARE WHERE THE SHERIFF'S SPECIAL OPS ARE.
BUT IF I SEE A MULLAH THAT DOES THE EIGHT ACRES, UM, OFF ST MARY'S, I BELIEVE WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE.
THE REASON, THE REASON WE'VE INCLUDED CAMP ST.
MARY'S IS THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT COUNCIL DOING SOME OF THAT IN THE PAST.
WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, WORKING TO PUT IN SECURITY GATE AND DO SOME MINOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY TO SECURE IT RIGHT NOW, AND TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, PUTTING UP A GATE, UH, FENCING ALONG A PIER AND PUTTING IN AN AUTOMATIC GATE, UH, AND WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FLEWELL ON THAT IS IN HIS DISTRICT.
I THINK BRITTANY'S GOING TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL OPTION FOR YOU LATER ON WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM.
I HAVE AN INTEREST IN FOR ANOTHER PROJECT, UH, AND A POTENTIAL SWAP WOULD COUNT ST MARY'S.
SO, ANYWAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS.
NEXT IS THE BARREL LANDING AREA.
THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF ONE 70 AND 2 78.
THERE ARE, UM, SEVERAL PROPERTIES ON THIS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PURCHASE.
IT WAS ALL DONE THROUGH RURAL AND CRITICAL.
UM, YOU WILL SEE ON THIS LIST, UH, THAT THEY RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 1.8, TWO ACRES UP TO AROUND 30, 30 PLUS.
UM, RIGHT NOW STUDYING IS IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING THEM REZONE IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY BEEN REZONED.
UM, AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, SHE DOES HAVE, UM, SOME PLANS TO PUT IN SOME TYPE OF PASSIVE PARK IN THERE, OR AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC.
THE KEY POINT TO THIS, AND THE REASON WHY THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED IS AS MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW, UH, SOLICITOR STONE OWNS THE PROPERTY JUST UP IN THE CROOK THERE WHERE THE KIND OF, UM, BEIGE AREA IS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN POINT TO THAT IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.
AND HE IS LOOKING TO DO AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING IS COMPLEX AND MAY NEED SOME ADJACENT PARKING.
AND HE AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF USING ONE OF THESE PARCELS FOR PARKING THAT COULD ALSO THAT IN ADDITION TO HELPING HIM WITH HIS NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING, HE'S GOING TO BUILD FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, UH, COULD ALSO BE A JOINT USE PARKING LOT FOR A PASSIVE PART THAT WE BUILD THERE.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE, UH, PRESENTING THIS TO YOU ALL AT TRUE AND CRITICAL LANDS, UM, PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
UH, SO WE'D HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT SOME WAY, UH, POTENTIALLY DO A SWAP, UH, WITH ONE OR MORE OF THOSE PARCELS WITH ANOTHER PIECE
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OF PROPERTY SOMEWHERE ELSE.BUT, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU SURE.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS IS A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR LIKE BALL FIELDS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINE? NO.
UH IT'S UH, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT LIKE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THAT BECAUSE BARREL LANDING IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT RUNS ALONG THE OFF RAMP STUFF TO ONE 70 AND 2 78.
UH, THIS WOULD JUST BE A PASSIVE PARK SITUATION WHERE WE MIGHT BUILD TRAILS, UH, FOR PEOPLE POTENTIALLY BIKE RIDING OR WALKING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
NO ACT OF RECREATION WOULD OCCUR THERE SINCE IT'S WRONG.
SO MOVING FORWARD, UM, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF 2 78 FROM BARREL LANDING IS WHAT OUR TAX RECORDS SHOW IS KNOWN AS THIS ISLAND WEST COMMERCIAL, UM, STAFF AND CHARLIE REFERS TO IT AS THE OTAY REGIONAL PRESERVE.
UM, SO I HAVE REFERENCED BOTH OF THEM THERE.
YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY OWNS FIVE PARCELS.
UM, THE MIDDLE PARCEL IS SOLELY WETLANDS.
UM, SO I HAVE NOT INCLUDED ON THIS ANALYSIS, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHY I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, UM, IS THAT SEVEN
YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE HANDLED PARKWAY, UM, CUTS THROUGH SEVEN B SEVEN C AND FALLS DOWN TO 77 C IS I'M SPECIFICALLY.
UM, IT WAS PURCHASED BACK IN 2013, BUT IT WAS ALSO PURCHASED WITH OTHER PROPERTY.
SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE CONFUSED ON MY SUMMARY HERE.
IT SAYS THAT UNDER SEVEN 50, THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR 1.4 MILLION.
AGAIN, THAT WAS MULTIPLE PARCELS WITHIN THIS SAME AREA THAT WERE PURCHASED TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK WE PURCHASE EIGHT ACRES FOR THE 1.4, UM, FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS, BUT SEVEN C.
UM, THIS IS ALSO, UH, RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAND WEST AREA THAT'S LOCATED ADJACENT TO STOKES TOYOTA, IS THAT RIGHT? SO THIS IS, THIS IS ADJACENT TO STOKES TOYOTA, THIS PARCEL.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS WOULD BE THE, UM, CAR DEALERSHIPS HERE ARE ACROSS THE STREET HERE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK DOWN HIGHWAY ONE 70, UM, AS IF YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS PORTERVILLE OR NEW RIVERSIDE HERE IS THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THIS FIRST STAR HERE, AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN FURTHER TO GIVE IT ROAD.
SO THE FIRST PROPERTIES, A AND EIGHT B UH, THEY WERE BOTH PURCHASED BACK IN 2016.
UH, THE AA WAS PURCHASED FOR A MILLION.
AND THEN WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS SEE ON THIS IS THAT THE FUNDING SOURCES WERE SPLIT BETWEEN THE WORLD OF CRITICAL PROGRAM AND THE STORM WATER UTILITIES.
UM, SO THERE WAS A SPLIT COST THERE AND BRITTANY HAS BEEN CLEARED.
IT'S CURRENTLY BEING TIMBERED.
IS THERE A USE FOR THEM? THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
I WAS PART OF, UM, STEPHANIE LODGES, UH, TIMBERING PROGRAM.
NO, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING A REGIONAL STORMWATER POND ON THAT PROPERTY, THROUGH THE STORM WATER UTILITY.
SO YES, THE STORM WATERS, I NEED A TIMBER WAS ON EIGHT B MY APOLOGIES.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TWO, RURAL AND CRITICAL.
I KNOW IT'S X AND STORM WATER MONEY IS KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON IT ARE GONNA BE PRETTY TIGHT, RIGHT? THINKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE, UM, POTENTIALLY THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THESE PARCELS WOULD MAKE A, A PORTION OF IT WOULD MAKE A GOOD LOCATION FOR THE POTENTIAL MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY.
AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO DO A SWAP WITH ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY SOMEWHERE.
AND SO IT'D BE FOR COUNTY FOR ROME CRITICAL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I, COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM, UH, HAS BEEN WORKING WITH A GROUP, UM, ON SOME, UH, ON SOME DONATIONS TO BUILD ANOTHER FACILITY.
AND THIS MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO YEAH, I'LL TOUCH ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT, ERIC, WITH EXACTLY WHAT IT IS JUST YET.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN A PRESENTATION.
YOU'VE HAD THE COUNTY MEETING ON MONDAY OR OUR FIRST ONE IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING PREPARED FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, COUNCIL.
UM, BUT I DO THINK ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS MIGHT BE, UH,
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A GOOD CENTRAL LOCATION BETWEEN HILTON.THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS TWO 70, GIVE IT ROAD.
MANY OF YOU WILL KNOW THIS AS THE PREVIOUS, UM, CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT WAS OUT IN PORTERVILLE.
THIS PROPERTY, UM, IS ACTUALLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS CURRENTLY A NON-CONFORMING USE COMMERCIAL, UM, WHICH WOULD EXPIRE ON JANUARY 1ST.
UM, IT IS APPROXIMATELY 0.6 ACRES AND PURCHASED BACK IN THE NIGHT OR EIGHTIES, UM, FOR LET'S SAY $1,500.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT, UH, COULD BE USED AS A STORAGE OF, OF EQUIPMENT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT COULD BE ALSO SOLD, UM, AS A SURPLUS PROPERTY, WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE QUICKLY DOWN TO THE LEFT AND PARKWAY, UH, TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE RIGHT HERE IS 46 COMING STRAIGHT INTO THE CENTER.
UM, DOWNTOWN BLUFF, OUR LEFT END, UH, AND OVER HERE IS GOING TO BE PINE CREST.
BOOK WATER IS ESSENTIALLY ON THE VERY LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, NINE, EIGHT AND NINE B.
UM, THESE TWO PROPERTIES WERE PART OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS, UH, PLANNING OF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
THAT'S HOW THEY WERE PURCHASED.
AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY VACANT.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE ARE WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY, UM, BUT OTHERWISE THERE IS NO OTHER USE FOR THE COUNTY FOR THEM.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE WHAT ELIMINATION COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IF WE DID SELL IT IN STORM WATER, IT HAS NO INTERESTING, NOT THAT NEIL OSI HAS BROUGHT FORWARD AT THIS POINT.
SO JUST ASK HIM NO GOOD QUESTION.
UH, NEXT IS GOING TO BE NICEY.
NICEY IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE TANTRA OUTLETS.
UM, THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS FAIRLY LARGE.
SO IT WAS 10 ACRES, UM, PURCHASED BACK IN 2015 FOR APPROXIMATELY $40,000.
AND WE, WE BELIEVE, I BELIEVE OF ALL THE ONES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
THIS ONE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO DO EITHER TO SELL IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR TO DO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH SOMEONE TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE AND GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO EMPLOYMENT IN, UH, GIVEN THE FROND AGED ABOUT 2 78 AND THE BLUFFTON PARK.
WE WENT BEYOND TO MITIGATE IT.
THE LAST ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY IS 90.
UH, HE'S A PROPERTY WAS PART OF THE CONDEMNATION WHEN WE IN AND LIFT HIM PARKWAY, UH, BRING THIS ONE UP BECAUSE IT IS A HALF ACRE.
IT DOES A BOOK TO A APARTMENT COMPLEX AND DRIVING BY THE COMPLEX.
YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, ON THE APARTMENT SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, IT APPEARS THEY USE IT FOR LOCATIONS AT THE TRASH RECEPTACLES, AS WELL AS SOME GARAGES.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HALF ACRE SITTING AROUND, WHY NOT PRESENT IT TO YOU? RIGHT.
AND I DID THAT ONE AS QUICK AS I COULD.
SO I THINK WE GOT THROUGH THEM ALL.
YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, LOCO IS GOING TO PRESENTING, UM, AFTER NEXT GETTING THE FINAL REPORT REGARDING A HOUSING TRUST FUND, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES AS THE ABILITY FOR US TO INCORPORATE THAT IN OUR FUTURE PLANS FOR WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHEREVER WE CAN, SOME OF THOSE LEND THEMSELVES SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
I LIKE FOR YOU TO CALL IT THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND INSTEAD OF JUST A MINOR POINT, BUT A MAJOR POINT, GO AHEAD AND FINISH IT.
WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT LATER.
WELL, WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, DO AS, UH, LET YOU ALL, WE WOULD PRESENT A LIST TO YOU ALL THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE SALE AND THAT WE WOULD ADVERTISE THESE IN THE NEWSPAPER, THE ONES THAT YOU APPROVED FOR US TO SELL AND LET FOLKS KNOW THAT WE'RE SO, UH, TAKING, UH, BEDS ON PROPERTY AND, UM, GET THOSE, UM, GET THOSE BIDS IN AND THEN PROCEED ON WITH YOU OFF FOR A PROVEN THAT, AND THEN MOVING THOSE FORWARD TO CLOSING.
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THEY WOULDN'T BE SEALED.WE COULD, UM, MY INTENTION WAS TO HAVE APPRAISALS DONE ON THEM.
UM, AND THEN STARTING AT A TIME 45 DAYS FOR ANY AND ALL OFFERS TO BE MADE.
I THINK A SEALED, SEALED BID, UM, SITUATION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
I CAN DOUBLE CHECK WITH DAVE THOMAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FOLLOWS OUR PROCUREMENT.
UM, BUT IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, HE THOUGHT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE IDEA AS WELL.
SO YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT A MINIMUM FOR EACH OF THE PROPERTIES.
AND WE WOULD ALSO, WELL NOT SAY ADVERTISE IT.
I MEAN IT OUT, UH, IN VARIOUS FORMS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, VARIOUS MEDIA OUTLETS THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATION PORTAL AND ALL OF THAT, SO.
SO WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE END TODAY'S MEETING, WE STILL HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO.
UM, AND THAT WAS SET THURSDAY, THE 26TH AT 2:30 PM FOR ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING TO FINALIZE WHAT'S ON THIS AGENDA.
AND MAYBE BY THAT TIME, YOU COULD AT LEAST HAVE THESE PROPERTIES THAT YOU WANT US TO SELL TO TALK ABOUT THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE FIRST PART, THE PRESENTATION FROM CREECH AT THAT TIME THAT MAYBE THIS COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED.
ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SETTING THURSDAY, THE 26TH AT TWO 30.
WELL, I MEAN, I WON'T BE HERE, BUT THAT DOESN'T YES.
I KNOW I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN IN MICHIGAN ON THAT DAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER, DALTON, DO YOU HAVE A MEETING ON THAT DAY? IS THAT, IS THAT THE DAY WE SCHEDULED ONE FOR YOU? I, I DON'T HAVE THAT CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME.
IS THAT FOR YOU AND JARED? I HAVE A MEETING THAT EVENING, BUT THAT WON'T BE FAIR.
I THINK I DO HAVE A MEETING AT TWO O'CLOCK ON THE 22ND.
UH, JARED JARED SAID YOU HAVE ONE, TWO TO FIVE ACCOUNTS FROM HER DAWSON TWO TO FIVE.
SIX 30 TO EIGHT ON THAT DATE ALSO THERE'S NOTHING ON TUESDAY CHAIRMAN.
SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION TUESDAY, THE 24TH, TUESDAY, THE 24TH HE CAN DO IN THE AFTERNOON.
TO STAY AT THE 24, STARTING AT TWO.
I'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY LEAVE EARLY, BUT THAT'LL BE OKAY.
WE SHOULDN'T BE AS LONG AS WE ARE THIS TIME, LOGAN, HOPEFULLY NO MORE THAN TWO HOURS TO COMPLETE EVERYTHING WE WANT TO DO.
OR LAST TWO O'CLOCK ON THE 24TH.
NO FURTHER ACTION TAKEN JOURN, THIS SPECIAL MEETING AT 4 31.