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SO LET US CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
WE'LL START BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND WHO HAS THE INVOCATION.
SO CUB SCOUT, BEFORE WE START CUB SCOUT PACK, 2 41 LED BY JOSH SIMPSON WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR A PATCH.
INSTEAD, DUE TO OBVIOUS REASONS, THEY'RE WATCHING THE MEETING BY WAY OF LIVE STREAMING.
IS IT UP? SO EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T HEAR THEM OR SEE THEM, WE KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE.
SO THEY WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE FROM WHERE THEY ARE AND WE WILL JOIN.
SO I HOPE THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF IT, PLEASE, JOSH, TAKE A PICTURE OR A VIDEO AND SEND IT TO US AND WE'LL POST IT ON FACEBOOK.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, FOR ALL BETTER SPRAY, MOST MERCIFUL THAN HELPING THEM FALL.
FATHER COME DOWN REALIZING THAT YOU ARE THE MAKER AND THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH AND ALL MANKIND.
BUT THEN YOUR WORD IS IF MY PEOPLE WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, SO HUMBLE THEMSELVES, PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS.
THEN I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND HEAL THEIR LAND FOR THE ACCIDENT THAT YOU HEALED US FROM THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE, BUT TOUCH THE FALL AND MAKE US SAFE FOR, TO GIVE US THE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO DEAL WITH SUCH A TRAGEDY, THESE AND ALL OTHER BLESSED AND IN JESUS NAME.
AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON.
UM, I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF WE'RE LIVE STREAMING, RIGHT? BET.
WE'LL MOVE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
UH, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UM, PROPOSE ON AN ADDITION TO YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT UNDER ARTICLE NINE, ADDING A NEW SECTION TO, UM, TO CONSIDER AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ONE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING, NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS AND SETTING STANDARDS FOR ELECTRONIC MEETINGS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE CAN'T GET TOGETHER IN PERSON LIKE THIS, WE CAN DO IT ELECTRONICALLY TOO.
TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER, TO DEVELOP AN ENACT PLANS AND POLICIES, THREE SUSPENSION OF CERTAIN MUNICIPAL TOWN DEADLINES AND FOUR TO EXTEND THE TAX COMPLIANCE UNTIL JUNE 1ST AND ACCORDANCE WITH THE GOVERNORS, UM, UH, 4:00 PM NEWS CONFERENCE THIS AFTERNOON WHEN HE MADE THAT A STATEWIDE EDICT.
UM, THERE'S A DRAFT OF THIS MOTION.
I EMAILED IT TO YOU EARLIER TODAY.
THAT WAS A TWO O'CLOCK VERSION YOU NOW HAVE ON YOUR, ON YOUR DAYAS IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO ADD BY THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA MAY ASK TO CLARIFY TO THE TAX, UM, UM, GOVERNOR MCMASTER AT HIS NEWS CONFERENCE THIS AFTERNOON, UM, DECLARED THAT ALL TAX FILINGS IN SOUTH CAROLINA, OR ARE EXTENDED UNTIL JUNE 1ST, INCLUDING ALL MUNICIPAL DEADLINES FOR EIGHT TAT H TAX, ET CETERA.
UM, SO HE'S EXTENDING ALL THAT.
AND HERE'S THE RATIONALE THAT HE EXPRESSED.
IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE HIS, UM, TALK THIS AFTERNOON WAS, UH, WAS A CASH FLOW RIGHT ON TO KEEP SMALL BUSINESSES AFLOAT AS BEST WE COULD, BUT THAT'LL BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY OTHER CHANGE ON IT? UM, REMIND ME OF THAT.
CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A PIN, NO OTHER CHANGES, NO OTHER CHANGES.
ANY, ANY OTHER CHANGES MR. ORLANDO, WITH THAT ADDITION, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
NEXT ARE OUR MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 11TH.
UM, IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO PROMOTE FASHION ALL IN FAVOR? STEP OF SAYING I OPPOSE THAT'S UNANIMOUS COMMUNICATIONS FROM MIRROR.
UM, WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND WHEN SHE COMES IN I'LL I MIGHT JUST STOP.
OH, SHE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
I DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.
HOW ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, SHARON? COULD YOU FILL IT OUT AFTER YOU FINISHED SO WE CAN HAVE IT FOR RECORD OR AFTER
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YOU FINISH, UM, SHARON BROWN, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, COME TO THE FRONT THREE MINUTES IN NAME AND ADDRESS AND BE MONITORED.COME GET THIS AND FILL IT OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO START IT RIGHT.
I LIVE AT 1 63 BUCK ISLAND ROAD.
UM, AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALLOWING ME THIS COMMENT TIME HERE.
UH, ALSO ONE THING HEATHER, YOU GUYS, FOR THE MEETING THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER FOR BUCK ISLAND AND SEMI ADVIL ROAD, I JUST SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL WITH SOME PICTURES.
AND THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH THE BLUFFTON EAGLES, UH, COMMITTED ACTION COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, IT STATES THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED THE UPGRADE OF EAGLE FIELD AS A HIGH PRIORITY.
AND THAT WAS BACK 2016 WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
NOW THE GOVERNING BODY, THEY ARE THE ONE WHO HANDLES THE FIELD.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IF THE PICTURES CAME THROUGH, SOMETHING'S BROKEN BECAUSE I'LL FEEL IS RIGHT THERE.
THE SIGN, THE BLUFFTON EAGLES FIELD, THAT'S ON THE CORRIDOR OF BOOK.
UH, BLUFFTON PARKWAY IS ROTTING AWAY.
IF YOU GUYS SEE THE PICTURES FROM 2014 TO 2000 TO 20, RIGHT NOW THE STEPS TO THE CONCESSION STAND IS EVEN, EVEN, UM, UH, ROTTING AWAY.
WHY AM I HERE TALKING TO YOU GUYS? WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT ORGANIZATION AND IF SOMEHOW YOU GUYS CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND TRY TO ASSIST THEM AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE AN OUTFIELD, A RECREATIONAL FIELD LIKE IT WAS INTENDED WHEN THEY DEMOLITION, THAT WAS THREE ACRES, UH, FOR THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND GAVE HIM A STINT, UH, A LUMP SUM OF MONEY AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
SO IF YOU SEE, BUT ALSO YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR AGREEMENT HERE, IT SAYS THAT THE COMMITTEE MUST PROVIDE THE TOWN APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION OF THE COMMITTEE'S CORPORATE AND 5 0 1 CRS STATUS AND MAINTAIN SUCH THROUGH THE LIFETIME OF THE AGREEMENT.
WELL, THIS ORGANIZATION OF STATUS WITH CORPORATE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED 2001, 2014, 2016 AND 2019.
SO SOMEWHERE IN THERE YOU GUYS HAD THE AGREEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS OF FROM BEING SUSPENDED, BUT SOMEBODY DID NOT DO THEIR RESEARCH VERY WELL IN REFERENCE TO THE ORGANIZATION, NOT IN THE GOVERNING BODY.
WHY? BECAUSE OF THE DISRESPECT THAT I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM, ASKING THEM, JUST TO DO A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE YOU GIVE US, UM, WHAT'S YOUR FUTURE PLANS IS FOR THE FIELD.
THAT'S NOT ASKING TOO MUCH OF AN ORGANIZATION.
I WAS TOLD THAT THE ORGANIZATION WILL NOT, AND I REPEAT, WILL NOT MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
AND IT'S A PUBLIC ORGANIZATION.
SO IF YOU GUYS CAN ASSIST THIS ORGANIZATION TO PLEASE HELP OUR RECREATIONAL FIELD BECOME WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
THOSE PICTURES, THERE ARE JUST A SHAMEFUL THAT ORGANIZED THAT BOARD HAS BEEN ON THAT, UM, BEEN TOGETHER FOR SEVEN YEARS, SEVEN YEARS.
AND IF YOU GUYS SEE IT, YOU'RE OUT THERE WITH THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
LOOK AT THE BATHROOM, LOOK AT THE FIELD, LOOK AT THE ROTTEN WOOD.
IF AN ORGANIZATION CAN NOT BE TRANSPARENT AND LET THE COMMUNITY BUCK ISLAND SIMPSONVILLE ROAD, THAT'S WHAT THAT FIELD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UTILIZED FOR TO HELP US BRING OUR KIDS TOGETHER AND ANY FAMILY IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M CONTINUALLY BEING DISRESPECTED AND I'M GONNA KEEP COMING BACK.
IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME BECAUSE IT ONLY TAKES ONE, ONE TO CHANGE THINGS.
CAN I EMAIL AND ASK ABOUT THE, UM, SUSPENSION AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO WHEN IT'S SAY YOU GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD THERE, SHARON AND MARK, WE'LL GET WITH YOU ON, ON YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'LL LOOK TO THE RIGHT, ANYTHING ACTIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ON FACEBOOK LIVE.
IF TOMMY, SARAH DO WANT TO CHECK, OH, THERE'S TOMMY.
I DO WANT TO SEE HOW I CAN PULL UP COMMENTS.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'LL GET WITH YOU.
UM, THAT I HOPE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING, UM, JUST PLEASE STAY IN TOUCH WITH OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS.
UM, WE'RE SENDING OUT BLOGS WERE OUR NEWSPAPER.
WE'RE GETTING WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE ARE REALLY, OUR HANDS ARE TIED WHEN YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND OUR GOVERNOR TELLING US WHAT TO DO, UM, PRETTY ADAMANTLY.
AND, UM, WE JUST HAVE TO HUNKER DOWN THESE NEXT 15 DAYS AND, AND LIVE A NEW NORMAL AND HELP EACH OTHER.
AND SOMEONE SAID THE OTHER DAY, UM, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN THE TIDE IS OUT IS WHEN YOU REPAIR YOUR DOCK.
SO IT'S TIME NOW, THE TIDE IS OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA COME BACK IN AND WE JUST NEED NOTE
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OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND GET HER GAME PLAN TOGETHER AND HELP EACH OTHER.SO, UM, SPREAD LOVE AND KINDNESS AND PATIENCE AND CALM AND BE TOTALLY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON BY FOLLOWING US THERE.
PATRICK'S DAY, EXCEPT FOUR OF US ARE NOT WEARING GREEN.
HE'S GONNA WATCH IT ON FACEBOOK WITH ME.
UM, ANYWAY, WORKSHOP AGENDA, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, UM, TO REALLY START GOING OVER OUR UDO'S.
SO WE WILL START THIS WITH, UM, NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSSION OF TOWN OPERATED, PUBLIC AMENITIES, SCOTT MARSHALL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP IS TO JUST REMIND YOU OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL, UM, AND BE MINDFUL GOING FORWARD THAT SINCE WE HAVE ADOPTED THE LAST FEE SCHEDULE, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE FACILITIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDED TO THAT LIST.
AND SO THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS TO, TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHERE WE GO FORWARD FROM HERE WITH REGARD TO THOSE POTENTIAL FACILITIES.
SO AS A REMINDER, THE CURRENT FACILITIES WE HAVE THAT WE RENT OUT OUR, THE ROTARY CENTER, THE ROTARY COMMUNITY CENTER AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK, THE FIELD OF DREAMS THAT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED PAVILION AND ORSER FACTORY PARK, BOTH THE WEST SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE.
THESE ARE VENUES THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER ADDING TO THE FEE SCHEDULE AND WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL, UH, INCLUDE THE RIGHT FAMILY PARK.
THIS IS A PARK, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE HOURS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED FOR THIS PART AND IN A PREVIOUS SESSION WERE, UH, SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
AND YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY SAID, ALCOHOL SMOKING AND FIREWORKS ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
WE ALSO HAVE THE DOG PARK AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
AGAIN, THE HOURS ARE SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
WE PROHIBIT ALCOHOL ON FIREWORKS UNLESS A PERMIT IS, HAS BEEN GRANTED AND SMOKING IS PROHIBITED THE BOSE PARK, WHICH WE HAVE NEVER OFFERED FOR RENTAL, BUT WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT, WE ARE THROWING OUT ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT, THAT HAVE POTENTIAL.
NOT THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IT FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, THE BOSE PARK, AGAIN, OURS ARE SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
ALCOHOL AND SMOKING ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
FIREWORKS ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS A PERMIT HAS BEEN GRANTED AT THE MARTIN FAMILY PARK, WHICH HAS BEEN NEWLY CONSTRUCTED AND THE ESTABLISHED IRS OPERATION, JUST LIKE THE OTHER SUNRISE TO SUNSET, WE STRICTLY PROHIBITED SMOKING AND ALCOHOL AND FIREWORKS ARE ALSO PROHIBITED UNLESS YOU HAVE A PERMIT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OWNER AUDITORIUM.
THERE ARE NO ESTABLISHED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE AMR AUDITORIUM.
WE DO HAVE A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH MAY RIVER THEATER THAT GIVES THEM PRIORITY FOR USAGE.
HOWEVER, THERE IS STILL CAPACITY WITHIN THAT THEATER TO OFFER IT, TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR OTHERS IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO, OR, UH, FISCHETTI RIVERSIDE PARK, WHICH IS STILL PENDING CONCEPTUAL PLAN, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT WE MAY WANT TO DO WITH THAT.
OR WE CAN TABLE THAT FOR LATER.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE PUBLIC PARK AT BUCK WALTER PLACE, COMMERCE PARK, WHICH IS NEARLY COMPLETE.
UM, BUT WE WILL DISCUSS, UH, WE PREFER TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE RENTAL EXCLUSIVE OF THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL, WHICH IS CONSIDERED SACRED SPACE.
WE'VE PULLED SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A SIMILAR MEMORIAL AND THEY DO NOT OFFER IT FOR RENTAL.
THEY KEEP IT AS SACRED SPACE FOR CERTAIN CEREMONIES AND EVENTS AND, AND GROUPS WHO SPONSORED THOSE EVENTS.
SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE PENDING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
WE WILL INCORPORATE ANY NECESSARY ADDITIONS TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE AS PART OF THE 2021 CONSOLIDATED BUDGET PROCESS.
AND WE'LL ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT ANY ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE UNITS, THE ADDITIONAL VENUES THAT WE PLAN TO OFFER FOR RENTAL THAT SAID, WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON ANY PARTICULAR ONE, IF THERE ARE SOME THAT YOU JUST ABSOLUTELY, UH, THINK SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE AND WE SHOULD MAINTAIN, AS YOU, AS FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOWS PARK HAS ALWAYS BEEN FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO CHANGE, BUT, UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE EASIER THAN OTHERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
UM, I'M WILLING TO LOOK AT IT IN WHATEVER MANNER YOU CHOOSE.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE.
AND THEN MAYBE MOVE THROUGH IT THAT WAY.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? SO ROTARY.
UM, SO THE FIRST IS THE ROTARY COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH BROUGHT THOSE THAT'S THE RENTAL LAST THING, RIGHT? FAMILY PARK, WHICH CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, THAT IS, UH, ACCORDING TO THE, UH, EVIDENCE IN THE SALE.
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IT TOGETHER WITH THE, UH, IF A COUNTY OPENED LAND TRUST, AND ONE OF THE SPECIFICATIONS WAS THAT IT WILL REMAIN A PASSIVE PART.SO WE WON'T HAVE, UH, ACTIVE FEATURES ON THE PARK.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SQUARE POPE KARDEX THERE, THAT WE WILL, UH, EVENTUALLY REHABILITATE SIMILAR TO THE GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE.
UH, BUT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS, IS WIDE OPEN AND HAS A NICE SCENIC VIEW.
FAMILY PARK, YOU'RE ASKING FOR, UM, IF IT'S RENTED, WE HAVE HOURS OF OPERATION AND WE PROHIBIT ALCOHOL SMOKING AND FIREWORKS.
EVEN IF IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT, FOR ANY REASON, YOU YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
THE, THE QUESTION REMAINS ON, ON ALL OF THESE PARKS.
UM, I DON'T RECOMMEND, WE REVISIT RE WE REVISIT THE RULES, BUT I DO RECOMMEND, WE CONSIDER WHETHER WE WANT TO OFFER THEM RAPPLER, NOT OFFER THEM FOR RENTAL OR NOT.
SO WRIGHT, FAMILY PARK, IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH RENTING THAT OUT OR YOU'RE ASKING, RENTING, OR KEEP IT FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS? LIKE DO THOSE PARK RIGHT ON IT EVEN.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE SQUIRE POPE HOUSE AT THIS TIME.
AND I THINK UNTIL WE DETERMINE WHAT THE USE WILL BE OF THE BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
FAMILY PART, NOT THE RIGHT FAMILY.
I WAS THINKING MARTIN FAMILY, RIGHT? NO, I'M SORRY.
WELL THEN LET ME ASK THE QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND I'M SORRY ABOUT GETTING, WELL, THE PART WE'RE ON WE'RE ON THE RIVER.
YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.
MY ONLY COMMENT WAS UNTIL WE KNOW THE USAGE, WE HAVE NEVER ASSIGNED A USE OF THE BUILDING ONCE WE FINISH IT.
SO I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE THE NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT AT THIS TIME.
SO WOULD WE, WE WOULD STILL HAVE IT OPEN.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO OPEN IT UP FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, LIKE THEY DO IT TO DO BOWS, THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED.
IT WOULD BE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE WITH THE RULES YOU WERE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS FROM COUNCIL, UM, WHAT'S THE SCHEDULED OPENING DATE FOR ACCESS TO THAT SUNRISE TO SUNSET LIKE WHAT'S THE, IT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE TO SHOW UP FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, FOR INSTANCE, A RIGHT FAMILY HARVEST, UH, AS OF LAST WEEK, UH, MOST LIKELY, UH, UH, JUNE, JULY TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SLOWER SCHEDULE THAN WHAT WE FIRST ANTICIPATED, MAINLY BECAUSE WE FOUND THOSE ARTIFACTS AND THOSE PILINGS AND FOUNDATION ON THE GROUND.
SO THAT'S ADDED SOME TIME TO THE SHOT CLOCK.
UM, OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT UP AND RUNNING, UM, AS A REAL PARK WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HOUSE, OF COURSE, UH, SUMMER, BRIAN'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.
HE'D GIVE YOU AN EXACT DATE AND LETS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT SCHEDULE IS.
SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE MONTHS OUT THERE.
YOU'VE REALLY GOT YOU HAVE APRIL AND MAY.
I'M HOPING IT'S OPEN AND READY FOR, FOR JUNE.
YOU ARE HAVING A RIBBON CUTTING OUT THERE, RIGHT? NO.
HEY THEN IT'LL BE DONE BY MAY, BUT IS, IS THIS NEEDED FOR YOUR BUDGET TO KNOW HOW TO PUT YOUR FEE SCHEDULE IN? IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AGAIN LIKE MID FALL? WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THE FEE SCHEDULE LATER IF NEED BE SO ARE Y'ALL DO Y'ALL WANT TO JUST HOLD OFF UNTIL THIS IS MORE COMPLETE TO DISCUSS THE RENT? YEAH.
WAIT, WE HAVE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS AT THIS TIME.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE SQUIRE POPE COTTAGE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.
UM, SO WHATEVER I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL WE'RE COMPLETED.
WELL, THAT TAKES US UP TO THE DOG PARK, WHICH HAS A COMPLETED PROPERTY.
UH, BUT WE DO NOT OFFER IT FOR RENTAL CURRENTLY HAVE REQUESTS.
DO WE RECEIVE REQUESTS FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO RENT THE DOG PARK OR BIRTHDAY PARTY? I SEEM TO RECALL AT LEAST ONE REQUEST.
I CANNOT RECALL WHO WAS FROM TOO, BUT I DO RECALL ONE REQUEST AND WE HAD TO SAY, IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE LIKE OTHER OPEN PARK FACILITIES FOR A DOGGY DAY OR WEDDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S NOT A HUGE, SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE USED FOR EVERYBODY.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER THAT AS A RENTABLE
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MAN MOVING ON BOSE PARK, BUT RIGHT NOW FIRST, HAVE YOU HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THIS FIRST COME FIRST? YEAH.W W WE HAVE NOT, UH, IT SEEMS TO HAVE SETTLED INTO AN ICE, UH, PATTERN.
THE COMMUNITY KNOWS HOW IT'S USED.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF CONFLICT WITH THAT PARK.
AT ONE TIME WE HAD GROUPS OUT THERE EXERCISING EARLY IN THE MORNING AND ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE WORKED OUT.
UM, BUT THAT SAID IT WASN'T THROUGH A RENTAL THAT THEY DID THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS AREA UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
NO PROBLEM WITH KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS.
OR DO YOU SEE THAT IT SHOULD BE RENTED? UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE RENTED.
I KNOW THAT I HAVE HAD CORRESPONDENCE PEOPLE WONDERING IF, UM, THERE IS A LIKE PLACE THEY COULD GO TO RESERVE IT FOR TYPICALLY FOR LIKE KIDS PARTIES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A DIRECTION I'VE GONE UNDER THE, UM, SAME GUYS.
IT'S BEEN THAT IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF POPULARITY OF THAT PARTICULAR PARK HAS INCREASED AND WE MIGHT WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE QUESTIONS OF UNCERTAINTY FOR SOME PEOPLE ON, ON HOW THEY GO TO RESERVE IT BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES.
SINCE I LIVED THERE, I SEE IT USED FREQUENTLY AND, UH, I'VE EVEN SEEN AS MANY AS MAYBE THREE OR FOUR BIRTHDAY PARTIES IN A DAY THERE.
UM, AND SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY WILL BE UNDER THE PAVILION AND SOME PEOPLE MOVE OVER TO THE GRASS, BUT, UH, I'VE NOT SEEN ANYBODY PUNCHING EACH OTHER OUT OR THE FACT THAT THEY COULDN'T GET TO IT AND USE IT.
AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR IT.
AND FINALLY, THE LAST THING WOULD BE IS WHEN WE HAVE A SIGNATURE EVENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S EVEN AN UNDERSTANDING THERE AND THEY COORDINATE ALL THAT WITH THE TOWN MANAGER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M NOT SEEING ANY OBSTACLES TODAY.
BUT, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO CHANGE ONCE WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PATH.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ARE, UM, SOMEWHAT CONSIDERATE.
I GET CALLS MORE LIKE, CAN WE RENT IT? AND WHEN I TELL THEM IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, THEN I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT I THINK WITH MARTIN FAMILY PARK, PERSONALLY, IF WE CAN KEEP BOTH OF THEM KIND OF FLEXIBLE, THEN THAT OVERFLOW COULD GO OVER, OVER IN THAT AREA TOO.
SO WE'RE OPENING UP MORE PARK SPACE, BUT I'M GOING TO LOOK TO Y'ALL AND POLICE HAVE, Y'ALL BEEN GETTING CALLS ON DISRUPTIONS AND COMPLAINTS, OR I COULD, I COULD ANSWER.
I THINK AT FIRST FOLKS, WHEN WE, WHEN WE FIRST BUILT THE, THE PAVILION, SORRY, PAVILION AT DUBOSE PARK, PEOPLE WERE EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO RENT IT.
I THINK THEY'VE ALL FIGURED IT OUT LIKE TWO MOMS TRYING TO RENT THE SAME SPACE AT THE SAME TIME FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY EARLY ON.
I THINK IT'S JUST BEEN WORKED OUT WHERE THE EXPECTATION THAT'S SET IS JUST SHARE IT.
LIKE COUNCILMAN WOODS SAID, PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP AND SHARE DUBOSE PARK.
WE'VE WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE THERE WHERE I'VE EVER FELT FIELDED A COMPLAINT THAT I COULDN'T RENT THE PAVILION OR THE SPACE.
AND, UM, I'M KIND OF HUMORING, NOT HUMORING, BUT I'M RESPECTING SOME OF OUR USUAL I'M HERE AND I'M JUST WATCHING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO BREAK IN AT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOMEBODY DID JUST MENTION, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO OTHER PARKS DO IF IT IS FREE? AND WE JUST KIND OF WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHO'S THERE IS THERE SOME TECHNOLOGY WE COULD USE ON I'M GOING TO BE AT THE PARK HERE? IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE THE WHOLE PARK, BUT IT'S IT LETS OTHERS KNOW.
THEY MAY BE ONE OF TWO OTHER GROUPS THERE.
I MEAN, IS THAT PUSHING IT? IS THAT, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO KIND OF A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
WE'RE NOT CHARGING RENT, BUT LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE.
JUST WE COULD TRY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THAT IS JUST SELF-REPORTED.
IF, IF IT'S NOT MANDATED IT'S SELF-REPORTED AND WE COULD DEFINITELY PUT THE WORD OUT AND EVEN POST A SIGN THAT SAYS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THIS, JUST LET US KNOW.
SELF-REPORTING WE'RE ONLY GOING TO RELY UPON THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAVE.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE THAT YOU COULD EASILY PLUG INTO AND SAY, I'M HERE PER SE.
IT COULD HELP TO Y'ALL TO KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN TO THE PARKS IN THE PAST AND THERE IS ALCOHOL.
IT DOES GIVE US A HEADS UP THAT SOMEONE'S THERE.
WE'RE SET BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE ALCOHOL THERE WITH KIDS PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND.
AND I HAVE SEEN IT, YOU KNOW, QUIETLY, BUT IF WE'RE ENFORCING NO ALCOHOL AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PARTY GOING ON AND I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT TO, I WOULD SAY IT'D BE GOOD TOO, TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UM, TRACKING OR REPORTING IN THE EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE LEAVES IT A MASS OR SOMETHING'S DAMAGED.
IF THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION OF WHO'S OUT THERE, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO TO FOLLOW UP WITH OR WHO TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, CHARGE MAYBE THOSE DAMAGES, UH, TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHAT HAPPENED?
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OH, WE GOT INTO THAT.SO I'M GOING TO JUMP IN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCHEDULE THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO RELY UPON HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT I MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TELL US WHO THEY ARE.
IF THEY LEAVE THE PLACE A MESS AND THAT'S, WE'RE OUT THERE A LOT.
SO I THINK WE'RE MONITORING IT WELL, BUT THIS, YOU EITHER HAVE TO DO IT OR NOT DO IT.
AND I THINK, I THINK YOUR POINT'S GOOD, BRIDGET, BUT I WOULD OFFER THE SO FAR, IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO IT IF IT IS OKAY.
THE COUNTY HAS SOME RULES THAT I THINK, UM, ALSO VALUABLE TO US.
IF YOU HAVE A GROUP MORE THAN TWENTY-FIVE, I THINK THE COUNTY REQUIRES YOU DO PERMISSION TO USE IT.
I THINK IT'S, UM, LONG AS WE ARE PROVIDING OF, UM, IT TO BE FREE TO USE IT FIRST, COME FIRST SERVE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE DESIGNED.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE INITIALLY, UM, BUILT THE PARKS OR OPEN SPACE GREEN SPACE FOR OUR RESIDENT TO USE AT THEIR CONVENIENCE, I'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF BIRTHDAY PARTIES UP THERE.
I THINK IT WOULD GET TOO COMPLICATED.
IF YOU TRY TO EDIT OUT FOR ONE THING, YOU HAVE TOO MUCH OVERLAP, KNOW YOU HAVE TO, IF SOMEBODY PAYS 25 BUCKS OR 50 OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEY HAVE A DEAL WITH THE TOWN THAT THAT'S THEIRS, YOU'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM THE ENTIRE REST OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOLE RIGHTS TO IT.
AND IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE, EVEN IF YOU HAD A LITTLE HEAD BUMPING HERE AND THERE, I THINK PEOPLE WORKED THROUGH IT.
UM, AND THOSE MOMS AND DADS THAT HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES SCHEDULED FOR A DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP THERE AT DAYLIGHT AND START PUTTING THEIR DECORATIONS UP AND THEY'RE GOING TO GONNA WATCH IT AND, YOU KNOW, STAY WITH IT AND GETTING OUT OF THERE EARLIER.
SO SOMEBODY ELSE, I DON'T THINK IT'S BROKEN NOW.
SO I'D SAY LEAVE, RIGHT? I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT SHOULD BE RENTED, BUT GOING TO THE POINT THAT LISA MAN, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE WHO USE AN ALCOHOL AT A PARTY.
AND WE HAVE IN THE RULES THAT IT'S PROHIBITED.
YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES AN ISSUE OF UNIFORMITY.
AND SOME PEOPLE WERE SAYING, WELL, WHEN I HAD A PARTY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE RULES, BUT I DROVE BY AND SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING THAT.
AND IT BECOMES A MATTER OF, WELL, HOW COME, YOU KNOW, NO ONE ENFORCED THAT.
AND IF WE'RE NOT ENFORCING IT, THEN IT BECOMES AN OPEN THING.
WELL, THEN I CAN JUST SHOW UP AND DO IT TOO, SINCE THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, HOLDING ME TO THAT, TO THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE RESPECTFULLY, I THINK THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
AND, AND YOU WOULD HAVE THAT ISSUE, WHETHER YOU RENTED THE FACILITY OR WHETHER YOU HAD IT ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
IF WE, IF WE DO THE, THE, THE, UH, AVENUE WHERE WE WOULD TRY TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE, THE PERSON WHO DID THAT, AND THEN WE NEED TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT, WHICH MEANS NOW WE DO NEED TO PUT IT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE AND WE DO NEED TO RUN IT OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE.
WELL, I THINK WITH DUBOSE AND MARTIN FAMILY TOGETHER, UM, I WISH THERE WAS SOME SIGNAGE TO AT LEAST GIVE US A HEADS UP.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE FRED SAID, THE COUNTY HAS A 25 OR MORE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN BE VAGUE ON THAT, BUT JUST A PHONE CALL OR A EMAIL TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM ON OUR NEW WEBSITE ONE DAY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE IT.
WE'RE NOT BLOCKING IT ALL FOR EVERYONE, BUT JUST GIVE US THE HEADS UP IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME WHILE TO CHANGE HABITS, BUT I THINK MARTIN FAMILY PARK OPENING, IT'S GOING TO BE SOME OVERFLOW.
AND, UM, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A BIG PARK AND WE MIGHT START SEE SOME FRICTION OF PEOPLE WANTING TO USE IT AT THE SAME TIME IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING.
I THINK MAYBE THE CONSENSUS IS TO LEAVE IT ALONE, BUT MAYBE LOOK INTO SECOND A, B AND C OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT CHARGING A FEE AS A STAFF.
WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT AND WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU LATER WITH SOME OPTIONS.
SO I THINK WE'VE HEARD WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE AND, AND FOR ENFORCEMENT WE'LL LOOK AT IT.
IT SAYS NOTHING TO DO, WHETHER WE CHANGE IT OR NOT.
I MEAN, THE RULES NEED TO BE ENFORCED.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ALCOHOL OR SMOKING OR WHATEVER, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT.
BUT LIKE IF SOMEONE'S THERE AND, YOU KNOW, BEAR CANS OR WHATEVER LEFT, OF COURSE, IT'S, IT'S THE JOB OF WHOEVER THE PUBLIC WORKS ARE TO GO, THEY'RE CLEANING, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BUT IN TERMS OF TRACKING, WHO'S DOING IT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IF SOMEONE'S ABUSING THE USE OF THAT PARK, THAT SHOULDN'T BE SOMEONE WHO CONTINUES TO HAVE THE ACCESS TO, UH, A FREE PARK.
IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RESPECT THE RULES.
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WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE, YOU CAN'T REALLY TRACK THAT.SO, UM, WITH, UM, SCOTT'S RECOMMENDATION ON LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS AND COMING BACK OR, YOU KNOW, REVISITING THEM, HEY, I ASSIST JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THE REASON THIS IS ON HERE TONIGHT, COUNCIL, WOMAN, UH, FRAZIER, WE TALKED WITH A REQUEST FROM THE MLK COMMITTEE ABOUT HAVING MOVIE NIGHT AT MARTIN FAMILY PARK.
THAT EVENT, THAT TYPE OF EVENT FROM A NONPROFIT WOULD NEED TO, IN MY OPINION, TO SET UP FOR A MOVIE AND USE THAT WHOLE PARK, WOULD YOU ALL THINK THAT THAT'S JUST FIRST COME FIRST SERVE OR SHOULD THAT NOT BE RESERVED AND DOCUMENTED UNDER CONTRACT? LIKE WE DO AN OYSTER COMPANY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PARTS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUBOIS PARK.
I HEARD MARTIN FAMILY PARK AND GOT THAT FAR.
I THINK WE LET THEM LOOK AT SOME IDEAS AND LET'S LOOK AT NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND SIGNAGE AND KEEP A CLOSE LOOK ON DUBOSE PARK.
CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT AT NEW RIVERSIDE AT SOME POINT TOO.
AND IT BUCK BOULDER OR IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.
SO MARTIN FAMILY PARK, AMIRA MARTIN, FAMILY PARK.
UM, ART AND FAMILY PARK, YOU ARE SUGGESTING STAFF IS SUGGESTING SOME KIND OF RENTAL FEE SCHEDULE AND ABILITY OF TOWN MANAGER FOR NONPROFITS TO WORK OUT SITUATIONS WITH THEM.
YES MA'AM IF THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WOULD NON-PROFIT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO OR THREE MOVIE NIGHTS THERE BY OURSELVES A YEAR.
FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, WE GOT A LITTLE BETTER AT IT AND KICKED THAT OFF LAST CHRISTMAS SEASON.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN.
BUT IF, IF IT IS A NIGHT FOR, UH, A GROUP IN, UH, CITIZENS, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME TOGETHER, I THINK THAT'S FABULOUS.
BUT MY, MY POINT IS, IF, IF YOU DO SHOW UP WITH THE MOVIE TRAILER AND THE MOVIE SCREENS AND YOU TAKE OVER THE PARK, I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE A RENTABLE MOMENT, NOT UNDER WITH A CONTRACT.
SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, IS YOU'RE SETTING UP, IT'S ALL KIND OF LIABILITY.
AND ALSO FROM AN OPERATION STANDPOINT, IF THAT'S THE INTENTION OR EXPECTATION ON MARTIN FAMILY PARK, I SUGGEST YOU ADD IT TO THE FEE SCHEDULE, COME UP WITH A NOMINAL PRICE AND RENT IT NO DIFFERENT THAN WE DO THE FIELD OF DREAMS, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE ROTARY COMMUNITY CENTER OR THE, TO FEDERAL PARK, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THAT PART AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER OTHER ONE, NOT THIS ONE, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PARTS, UM, ONCE PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS AND THE OTHER ONE HAS MANY USES.
LIKE YOU SAY, WHETHER IT'S MOVIE NIGHT OR, OR WHATEVER.
UM, I PERSONALLY WAS THINKING THAT WE WOULD USE, PUT IT ON A FISH SCHEDULE, RENT IT TO JUST SPECIAL EVENTS, WHATEVER.
UM, THEY WON'T ALL BE RENTED OUT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK OR EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK.
BUT IF, IF THE ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL WANTED TO USE IT OR, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR THING OR MAY FAST OR WHATEVER, IF THEY RESERVE IT AND PAY FOR IT FOR THAT PARTICULAR DAY, I AGREE IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT.
AND I, FROM WHAT MY MEMORY IS, UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COLLECTIVELY, THIS COUNCIL, WE, WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT THAT OPEN SPACE NEEDED TO BE USED USE FOR SOME OF OUR SIGNATURE EVENTS AND SO FORTH GOING INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE MICHAEL HAHN'S LOT IS NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR SUCH OPEN SPACE AND LOOKING AHEAD, THAT'S THE WAY I REMEMBERED IT.
SO I, I THINK IF WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SPECIAL PERMITS GO TO THE TOWN MANAGER.
SO HE HAS ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO DIAL THAT IN TO THE CALENDAR WHEN, WHEN IT'S NECESSARY.
BUT, UH, YEAH, RENTING VERSUS OPEN SPACE INS TO BE OUR FREE TENDS TO BE THE AREAS WHERE THERE'S PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, THEIR KIDS' PARKS, AND WE HAVE PROHIBITED SMOKING AND DRINKING AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE DRINKING NEAR CHILDREN PLAYING ON PLAYGROUND PERIOD.
THE OPEN FIELDS LIKE OYSTER FACTORY AND LIKE MARTIN FAMILY AND PROBABLY NEW RIVERSIDE AND PROBABLY BUCK WALTER IS MORE SPACE.
THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THERE CAN BE PLACES FOR GROUPS TO, TO COME IN AND UTILIZE IT FOR CERTAIN EVENTS.
IT'S HOW I'M READING THAT IS THAT RIGHT? I, I, I WOULD AGREE TO THAT IF WE LIMIT THAT, UM, TIME THAT WE WOULD RENT IT OUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, UM, I DON'T WANT IT TO TAKE PRESIDENTS OVER THE PUBLIC AND HAVE FREE ACCESS TO IT.
SO IT NOT, LET'S NOT BE AFRAID TO SAY, NO, WE CAN'T RENT IT TO SIGN.
UM, IF YOU COULD GET TO COME UP WITH A T HOW MANY TIMES A MONTH WE WOULD RENT IT.
SO IT WOULD BE SO THAT IT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO THE
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PUBLIC.I CAN SEE IT BEING ABUSED VERY EASILY.
THE LIMIT ALSO, IT HELPS US TREMENDOUSLY WITH MANPOWER AS WELL.
SO OF HOURS OF OPERATION SUNRISE TO SUNSET FOR ANY USE.
AND I WOULD SAY WITH THE SPECIAL EVENT, IF IT'S A MOVIE, THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, I'M SORRY TO JUMP IN SCOTT.
IT EXEMPTS, YOU'D BE EXEMPT FROM THE ESTABLISHED HOURS OF NORMAL OPERATION AND BY SPECIAL EVENT, YOU WOULD ALLOW SUNSET.
AND AM I READING THIS RIGHT? MARK? THE WAY IT'S SEWN HERE? UM, FOR, I MEAN, FIREWORKS, AREN'T PROHIBITED, I MEAN, ARE PROHIBITED EVERYWHERE IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, EVEN THOUGH WE LISTED THEM, UM, UM, LIKE THE ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL OR MAY FEST OR WHATEVER, IF THERE'S, YEAH.
THEY'RE THE, IF THEY APPLY AND GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT OR THEY EXEMPT FROM THE, WELL, THE ALCOHOL, WE COULD AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE THAT EFFECTIVE THAT NO ALCOHOL HAS PROHIBITED EXPRESS EX EXCEPT THROUGH GRANTING OTHERS.
ACTUALLY I WISH THE BATTERY PARK IS THE SAME WAY.
UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
YOU CAN SAY NO ALCOHOL AT MARTIN FAMILY PARK.
WHEN WE COME FORWARD, I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME GUIDANCE TONIGHT.
IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW ALCOHOL THERE WITH SPECIAL EVENTS TONIGHT WOULD BE THE NIGHT TO TELL US SO THAT SCOTT CAN CODIFIED US.
UM, IF UNDER A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, UH, NO, WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET, START TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT FAMILY PART, WE HAVE AGREED ALL OF US THAT, THAT WON'T BE ALLOWED THERE.
BECAUSE TO KEEP PEACE WITH OUR CHURCH FAMILIES AND ALL THAT.
BUT I, I THINK IT, UM, OPENS UP USES AND ALL THE MONEY WE SPENT TO MAKE IT NICE AND STEADY.
WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN BRING AN AMENDMENT FORWARD TO YOU WHEN WE, WE CAN BRING AN AMENDMENT FOR WORD, UH, TO SPECIFY A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT, RIGHT.
AL'S THOUGHTS EVER RENTED IT BEFORE WE DO GET REQUESTS FOR USE OF THIS FACILITY FROM TIME TO TIME.
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE NOT RENTED IT BEFORE, AND WE HAVE A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH MAY RIVER THEATER.
THEY ARE THE PRIMARY USERS AND OCCUPANTS OF THE FACILITY, AND ANY RENTALS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE AROUND THEIR ACTIVITIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LICENSE AGREEMENT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH THE THEATER.
SO I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ASK ME SMALL SCHOOLS AND, UM, PLACES THAT JUST DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR FREE, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONE HAS THE MONEY, BUT I, WELL, THAT'D BE ALL, OH, THAT'S GOING TO BE, I'M NOT AGAINST I'M OPEN.
YOU'RE OPENING UP TOWN HALL TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BOB, ANOTHER LAYER OF SECURITY OR OVERSEEING UP, THEN YOU COULDN'T JUST OPEN UP AND RIGHT.
DO WE DO THAT WITH MAY RIVER? THAT WITH MAY RIVER WILL BE THE THEATER.
WHEN THEY COME IN, WE DO THEIR LICENSE AGREEMENT, THEY HAVE A KEY AND THEY OCCUPY IT, BUT THERE'S EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY LEAVE IT IN A CERTAIN CONDITION.
AND WE'VE OVER TIME DEVELOPED THAT EXPECTATION IN RELATIONSHIP OR SAYING, COUNCILMAN, OPEN THAT UP, SAY YOU OPEN IT UP FOR A, A CHURCH GROUP THAT WANTS TO COME TOGETHER.
OR SOME GROUP THAT WANTS TO WATCH A QUICK LITTLE MOVIE OR HAVE SOME SORT OF WIRE ON A SATURDAY NIGHT, WE WILL HAVE TO BE IN THE BUILDING TO OPEN IT UP TO A DEGREE TO MONITOR IT.
AND THEN ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE BUILDING IS SECURE AS THEY LEAVE.
SO DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, TO COVER COSTS THOSE, THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS TO DO THAT ARE, ARE DIFFERENT THAN A COVER COSTS TO JUST OPEN UP A PARK, UM, FOR A PAVILION RENTAL, THAT REASON IT'S ON HERE IS IT'S, IT'S ONE OF OUR ASSETS.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS.
I HAVE NEVER ALLOWED USE OF IT BEYOND MLK, UH, GROUP AND, AND THE MAY RIVER THEATER COMPANY, MY FIVE AND A HALF YEARS WITH YOU, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST, JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY OFFER IT TO DIFFERENT GROUPS TO USE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, BUT THAT INTERFERE WITH THE OPERATIONS HERE, YOU KNOW, SAY IT'S A CHURCH GROUP, A GROUP OF LADIES OR MEN OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO USE
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IT TO MEET.OR I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY DEPEND ON THE DAY AND THE HOUR.
FOR EXAMPLE, TUESDAYS WHEN WE HAVE COURT, I THINK IT WOULD DEFINITELY INTERFERE BECAUSE YOU'RE USING A SPARKING ENTRANCE AND EXITS AND PARKING.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO EXEMPT IT FROM, FROM REGULAR OFFICE HOURS, I WOULD THINK.
AND GOING BACK TO SAY SOMEBODY, LIKE YOU SAID, A CHURCH GROUP OR RU WE COULD, IF WE WERE SO INCLINED, WE COULD WRITE SOMETHING UP, YOU PAY A NOMINAL FEE, BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE AN OFFICER HERE TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDING'S SECURE.
AS A, AS A THOUGHT PART OF YOUR, YOUR LICENSE CONTRACT, YOU MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE RENT, BUT THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND P AT FAULT ANOTHER FAULT.
WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH THIS YEAR AND S AND Y'ALL START COLLECTING WHO DOES CALL AND SEE IF IT'S A BIG ENOUGH NEED THAT WE LOOK AT IT NEXT BUDGET YEAR, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.
AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF TRACK IT AVID A YEAR AND SEE HOW IT GOES AND DECIDE WHAT ARE YOUR, I AGREE.
WE DID SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON MAKING IT NICE, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE REST OF TOWN HALL, TOO, ON SMALL GROUP, THAT'S NOT PAYING ANY MONEY.
YOU KNOW? I MEAN, WE WANT THEM TO STAY HERE AND WE WANT TO HELP THEM.
BUT PEOPLE THAT QUESTION THAT IF YOU GET A OF, IF YOU GET A LOT OF CALLS IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AFTER IT OPENS, CAN YOU BRING IT BACK TO US IN THIS, LOOK AT THIS AND SEE, OKAY.
SHOULD WE JUST WAIT UNTIL THAT'S FINISHED? IS THERE ANY NEED TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT UNTIL IT'S DONE? IF IT COMES SOCIAL PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC PARK AT BUCK WALTER PLACE, NOT INCLUSIVE OF VETERANS MEMORIAL, I THINK IT'S AN AWESOME PLACE FOR EVENTS.
Y'ALL WANT THAT ON THE RENTAL TO SET UP A FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE LOOK AT AT BUCKWALTER PLACE.
IT OPENS UP AN EVENT SPACE OUTSIDE OF OLD TOWN.
WE'VE HAD ANY INQUIRIES ABOUT IT.
IF ANYBODY I WOULD SAY NO, BUT I, I ACTUALLY HAD HAD ONE.
UM, IT HAD TO DO WITH THE, THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IN A, IN A FUNDRAISER.
BUT THE WAY I SEE THAT TRACKING IS ONCE WE DO CUT THE RIBBON AND TURN THE LIGHTS ON, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE THE SAME DEMAND, UM, AND THE SAME REQUESTS THAT WE'RE SEEING FOR MARTIN PARK FOR MARTIN FAMILY PARK, EXCUSE ME, PEOPLE ARE DESIRING THE, JUST A BIG GREEN SPACE TO USE.
THEY'LL PUT THEIR OWN TENTS UP.
THEY'LL HAVE AN EVENT WHO KNOWS IT COULD BE A REGULAR FARMER'S MARKET OUT THERE.
THERE COULD BE KROGER WANTING TO SELL THEIR PRODUCE ONCE A MONTH.
MA'AM AGILE OR FREE, I THINK FEE SCHEDULE.
AND JUST TELL HIM THAT I SAW FOUR PEOPLE WALK IN TODAY, AROUND OUR TRAIL AT THE PARK.
IT, IT REALLY FEELS LIKE IT'S OPEN NOW TO RECAP WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM YOU, UH, RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE PARK IS COMPLETE.
DOG PARK IS A NO, WE WILL NOT RENT THAT OUT.
WE WILL KEEP THAT OFF THE FEE SCHEDULE TO BOSE PARK.
WE WILL KEEP OFF OF THE FEE SCHEDULE MARTIN FAMILY PARK.
WE WILL PLACE ON THE FEE SCHEDULE.
UH, WE WILL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TIMES IT CAN BE RENTED AND WE'LL MAKE SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR HOURS AND FOR USE OF ALCOHOL BY SPECIAL PERMIT, A SPECIAL EVENT, PERMIT ALMER AUDITORIUM.
WE WILL LOOK AT NEXT BUDGET YEAR AFTER WE'VE HAD THE, UH, NEW, UH, NEWLY REVISED AUDITORIUM IN PLACE FOR AWHILE.
AND PEOPLE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THAT PARK IS COMPLETE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND BUCK WALTER PLACE PARK IS YES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PLACE THAT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE AND THE COUNTY BUDGET.
WE'LL SEE THIS AT FIRST AND SECOND RATING OR JUST ONE READ REP.
IS IT JUST WE AT BUDGET, TOM? PROBABLY THE, THE CHANGES TO THE FEE SCHEDULE WILL BE INCORPORATED WITH THE FY 21 CONSOLIDATORS.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE'LL SEE IT AGAIN, RIGHT? THANK YOU.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER WORKSHOP ITEMS AND THESE ARE ALL DISCUSSION POINTS AND THESE NEXT THREE OR FOUR WILL ACTUALLY BE ON FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
FOR THOSE WATCHING, YOU HAVE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO THIS IS MORE OF A WORKSHOP ITEM, AND I AM LOOKING DOWN AT NOTES ON FACEBOOK, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE, WE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF, OF OPEN SPACE AND PUBLIC SPACE THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE FEES ON BECAUSE WE CLEAN UP AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO THOSE THINGS.
SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF, WE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF OPEN SPACE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND SIT AND A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN RENT FOR WEDDINGS AND PARTIES AND SUCH.
SO HEATHER, YOU'RE UP, I'M UP? OH, LET ME FOR THE PUBLIC.
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A DISCUSSION ON DIRECTION ON AMENDMENTS THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE CHA ARTICLE FOR ZONING DISTRICTS, CONDITIONAL USE STANDARDS AND ARTICLE NINE DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS.SO THIS IS A REQUEST AGAIN, FOR THOSE SUBJECT MATTERS.
THE ZONING DISTRICTS, THE BASICALLY THE CALIBRATION OF LAND USES, UM, CONDITIONAL USES STOREFRONT AND STOREHOUSE MANUFACTURING THAT WILL BE REFERENCED IN ARTICLE NINE, FOUR DEFINITIONS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE PROPOSED AS NEW USE CLASSIFICATIONS AND CONDITIONS, UM, RELATED TO INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UM, THIS WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AS, UM, SOMETHING THAT STAFF WAS REQUIRED TO REVIEW AS FAR AS THE, THE LAND USES SPECIFICALLY LAND USES, AS THEY RELATE TO WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS STOREFRONT MANUFACTURING.
I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S MORE YOUR PRIMARILY WHAT APPEARS TO BE MAYBE A RETAIL USE, BUT THEY'RE MANUFACTURING A PRODUCT, FOR EXAMPLE, LEATHER GOODS OR HOMEMADE SOAPS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN STOREHOUSE MANUFACTURING, WHICH THAT'S MORE LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH BREWERIES AND DISTILLERIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IT MORE AS A PRIMARILY A MANUFACTURING TYPE USE WITH A RETAIL, POSSIBLY A RETAIL COMPONENT.
SO THOSE ARE TWO NEW USES, UM, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH CONDITIONS.
THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO REVIEW AND LOOK THROUGH IS THE ELIMINATION OF MINI WAREHOUSE OR SELF SERVE SELF SERVICE STORAGE FACILITIES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN AS POSSIBLY EITHER A PERMITTED USE WITH CONDITIONS IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR REFERENCE AS IT'S ONLY PERMITTED IN THE PLANNED, UM, UNIT DISTRICTS.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT AS FAR AS WHERE IN THE TOWN, THESE USES, AND THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE REVIEWING WOULD PERTAIN, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO ARE CONTINUING TO REVIEW, UH, WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S.
AND AGAIN, AS, AS ALL OF THESE WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT ON THAT, THE OTHER ONES ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING USE CONDITIONS.
SO FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON, UM, VARIOUS USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, SALVAGE YARDS, JUNK YARDS, UM, MANY WAREHOUSES, SELF SERVICE STORAGE, SHOULD THEY REMAIN IN THE, THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE RECYCLING CENTER AND TRANSFER STATION AGAIN, JUST TO REALLY CODIFY AND MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THOSE USE CONDITIONS ARE AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.
SO IN THE ATTACHMENTS, AND I CAN PULL UP THOSE ATTACHMENTS AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO, BUT THERE ARE THE USES THAT ARE LISTED OUT AND I'VE TRIED TO PULL THEM UP IN SLIDE FORMAT AS WELL.
BUT THE TABLE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT CHAPTER OUTLINES, WHETHER OR NOT A USE IS PERMITTED PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS, UM, SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH WOULD GO TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR REVIEW, OR IF IT'S A BLANK SPACE, IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN THAT DISTRICT.
THIS IS, UM, THE PROPOSED TAX SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THOSE TO PROPOSE NEW USES THAT ARE REFERENCED STOREFRONT, MANUFACTURING, AND STORE, HOUSE MANUFACTURING, AND THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT WOULD ALLOW IT PER PROPOSED TO ALLOW IT BY CONDITIONS.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE CHANGE TO THE MINI WAREHOUSE OR SELF SERVICE STORAGE, CONDITIONAL ENLIGHTENED RIYAL.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE USE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO REVIEW AS TO HOW WE, HOW WE, UM, REFLECT CONDITIONS FOR THAT USE OR WHERE IT SHOULD BE PERMITTED.
THE USES THAT ARE ALL IN THIS CHART, OR THIS TABLE REFLECT OUR STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO THE OLD TOWN DISTRICTS, BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS BILL GUTHY ROAD, UM, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR THE PLANNED, UM, PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE UNDER THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY PERTAIN TO BUCK WALTER OR, UM, SCHULTZ TRACT OR THOSE OTHER AGREEMENTS.
AND I DO HAVE A MAP THAT I WILL SHOW HERE'S THE MAP HERE, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE PULLED THIS UP FIRST, BUT ANYTHING IN THAT LIGHT GREEN THAT'S BOUND BY USES SPECIFIC TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE PUD LANGUAGE.
SO THE PROPOSED CHANGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD JUST WOULD REALLY REFLECT, UM, ANYTHING IN DIFFERENT COLORS THERE THAT, UM, BOTTOM AREA, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AS WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE THE LANGUAGE AND THE, UM, WHERE CERTAIN USES WOULD BE ALLOWED, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BRING YOU MUCH MORE DETAILED INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT'S ALLOWED, WHERE, BUT AGAIN, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO CODIFY THE CONDITIONS, UM, FOR THOSE USES AND JUST REFLECT SOME OF THE CHANGES SPECIFICALLY IN MANUFACTURING OVER TIME WHERE MANUFACTURING MAY HAD MORE, UM, EFFECTS AS FAR AS NOISE ORDER AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS WHERE NOW IT'S
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SELF-CONTAINED AND MAY NOT HAVE THAT SAME IMPACT.SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REFLECT IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
THIS IS JUST, UM, WHAT'S UNDERLINED SHOWS THE PROPOSED, UH, NEW TEXT WHAT'S CROSSED OFF SHOWS WHAT'S EXISTING, THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO REPLACE IT.
AND THIS JUST, UM, THIS JUST REFLECTS JUST A BETTER CLEARER EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE STANDARDS ARE.
THIS GETS INTO MORE OF THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
AGAIN, SINCE THIS IS A WORKSHOP BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION, THIS IS HOW STAFF IS, UM, STARTING WITH THAT PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
AND WE'LL TAKE IN THE COMMENTS FROM TODAY'S MEETING.
IT WILL HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AS WELL AS FIRST AND SECOND READING.
SO, UM, THIS MAY NOT BE PERFECT BY ANY MEANS.
SO AGAIN, THAT STOREFRONT MANUFACTURING, THAT'S MORE OF THE RETAIL.
WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS MORE OF THAT RETAIL FOCUSED USE THAT MAY HAVE A MANUFACTURING COMPONENT THAT IN THE PAST, WE MAY HAVE HAD TO SAY NO TO, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THE USES WERE DEFINED.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED BASICALLY, UM, RELATED TO THE STORAGE LOADING AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN A RETAIL TYPE USE.
AND THEN STOREFRONT MANUFACTURING.
AGAIN, THAT'S MORE YOUR BREWERIES DISTILLERIES, AND JUST RELATED TO THE OUTDOOR IMPACT IN STORAGE, THE CONDITIONS MOVING FORWARD, JUST SOME MORE SPECIFICATIONS RELATED TO JUNK AND SALVAGEABLE OPERATIONS LIKE SET AS, UM, AS THERE ARE PERMITTED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, JUST TO INCREASE WHAT THAT BUFFER WOULD BE BETWEEN NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, UM, THE, UM, ON THIS MANUFACTURING.
CAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, THAT WORD KIND OF SCARES PEOPLE, INDUSTRY AND MANUFACTURING, THEY'RE SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THINK OF IT, BUT WE'RE MA WE'RE CHANGING SOME OF THE THINGS FROM PERMITTED TO CONDITIONAL, WHICH MEANS THERE'S AN ADDED LAYER OF REALLY ASKING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO IF THERE'S ANY ADDED NOISE OR IF WE FEEL THERE'S LOUD MORE THAN WHAT THE NORM WOULD BE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY THEY CAN'T DO IT, CORRECT.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THESE CONDITIONS AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN MEETING THESE CONDITIONS AS THEY PROCEED FORWARD.
AND THIS IS JUST SOME PROPOSED TEXAS OUTLINES WITH THE SOLID WASTE AND TRANSFER THE RECYCLING CENTER.
UH, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF FINE AND JUST FURTHER REITERATING WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE AND JUST OUTLINING SOME ADDITIONALS.
THIS IS, UM, THE MANUFACTURING, AGAIN, JUST, JUST ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT ANY WAREHOUSE, THIS IS ONE AGAIN THAT, UM, STAFF WOULD W UH, AS ALL OF THEM WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT RIGHT NOW IS THE MANY WAREHOUSES ARE PERMITTED IN SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AREAS, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE TRACT AND THE CONDITIONS AND THE USES THAT ARE SPELLED OUT FOR EACH ONE.
SO DEFINITELY, UM, DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC LOCATION WITHIN THE, UM, ZONING DISTRICTS, WHAT STAFF HAS IT'S ALLOWED IN THE GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT CURRENTLY.
UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD APPROACH THIS AND CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S AND PLANNING COMMISSION IS AS WELL AS COUNCIL IS THAT WE COULD ADDRESS IT AS FAR AS IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN ANY OF THE DISTRICTS, BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO REFERENCE IT SOMEHOW THAT IT'S ONLY ALLOWED IN THE PLANNED UNIT, UM, AREAS IN THOSE DISTRICTS, OR WE COULD LIMIT IT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH VARIOUS CONDITIONS.
AND THAT COULD BE, UM, DISTANCE BETWEEN OTHER TYPES, LAND USES, INCREASED BUFFERS, SETBACKS, HEIGHT, LIMITATIONS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO, WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THAT, OR WE FOR THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OR, UM, ALTOGETHER JUST IN THE BEAUTIES.
OH, I'M JUST GOING TO, SO ON THAT, I THINK, CAN WE, CAN WE BEST, UM, DEEPER SETBACKS, I MEAN, 15 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FOR WORK, WE, WE CAN RIDE BY ONE OF, MANY OF THEM AND PROBABLY SEE THAT.
I MEAN, I WOULD SUGGEST, AND IT'S COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO THAT THAT SHOULD BE LARGER BUFFER AND THE BUFFER SHOULDN'T BE DISTURBED.
UM, YOU'RE IN CON I MEAN, LET'S START TRYING TO INTEGRATE ALL THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T DISTURB THEIR BUFFER MAYBE
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UNTIL POST SPILLED OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO AT LEAST KEEP THOSE TREES THERE DURING CONSTRUCTION, AS OPPOSED TO WAIT UNTIL THE END.DO WE WANT ANY MORE MINI STORAGE UNITS IN AREAS THAT WE CAN CONTROL? I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAP THAT, WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S AS OBVIOUS AND A VISUAL AS IT SEEMED LIKE IT MIGHT'VE BEEN, UH, ORIGINALLY, CAN YOU POINT THAT OUT? YEAH.
SO, UM, THIS MAP, SO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS THAT PURPLE AREA.
SO IT IS THIS RIGHT HERE, BUCK ISLAND, THAT'S WHERE RSR CURRENTLY IS.
AND WE JUST NOT ALLOW IT THERE A LITTLE BIT WHERE THE DISTILLERY PROPERTY WAS ALSO ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER, THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER, UM, THING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPLORE IS TO NOT ALLOW IT IN ANY OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PDS AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, GO BACK TO THE PURPLE AREA OF, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE SAYING, JUST TAKE IT OUT ALTOGETHER.
I WAS, I WAS ASK, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE PLACES IT'S ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MAKE PEOPLE DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, CAN THEY NOT DO IT WAREHOUSE STUDY AND PROVE TO US THAT IT'S NEEDED? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
JUST THE FAULTS SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED, BUT, OKAY.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN JUST TAKE IT OUT AS A USE IN THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
I'M STILL, I'M STILL, I'M STILL, I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PURPLE THERE, CAUSE I CAN'T TELL THAT'S RSI RIGHT THERE AROUND POLES TO RSF.
I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING THAT AS MUCH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WE HAVE NO CHOICE TO ALLOWING OR NOT ALLOWING IT'S COMING, LET THEM UTILIZE SOME OF THAT WITH IF THE WE NEED.
NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THEM IF THERE IS A DEMAND AND THERE'S A NEED FOR THEM.
WE CAN AND CERTAINLY LOOK AT LANGUAGE AND MAKE IT CLARIFY THAT THAT'S NOT, IS THAT COMPLICATED TO CHANGE OR NOT? OKAY.
WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT QUICK ON THIS.
UM, SO WHILE YOU HAVE THAT MAP, THAT HOT PINK HAS NEIGHBORHOOD CORE, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NEW USES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF USES CURRENTLY THAT ARE PROBABLY NON-CONFORMING, BUT THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN.
YES, THERE'S AND THERE'S AN OUT JEFF MORRIS IN PLACES LIKE THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THEM TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING THIS LAYER.
THERE'S A, UM, AND WE CAN AGAIN, BRING IT FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE NON-CONFORMING CHAPTER, SO BUSINESSES ARE ALLOWED TO REMAIN.
UM, AND THEN THERE IS ALSO SOME REESTABLISHMENT CLAUSES THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME THAT THEY CAN RE-ESTABLISH AND THEY CAN DO CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF, AS PART OF ALL OF THESE UDL AMENDMENTS THAT STAFF HAS STARTED TO THINK ABOUT FURTHER TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD CONSIDER BRINGING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
BUT AS OF NOW, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
SO BUSINESSES THAT ARE NON-CON ARE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS SUCH WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE NON-CONFORMING I THINK YOU JUST SAID THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO SOME CHANGES.
SO WHEN IS THOSE CHANGES ACCEPTABLE? UM, IT DEPENDS.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S LESS THAN 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY DO.
UM, AND IT DEPENDS AS FAR AS NONCONFORMITY CAN'T INCREASE.
SO THERE'S A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE NON-CONFORMING USE SO ADDITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT MAY BE LIMITED.
UM, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WANTED TO BUY THE LOT NEXT DOOR AND MAKE IT A JUNK YARD TOO.
THEY CAN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
NO, I DON'T BELIEVE NO, NO, THEY CANNOT.
THEY CANNOT, THEY CANNOT, THEY CANNOT, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LANGUAGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT NO, THEY COULD, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXPAND LIKE SAID EXPANSION.
THE NON-CONFORMING NON-CONFORMING USE IS NOT, NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE CAR.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PURPLE AREA AGAIN, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT IS NOT DEVELOPED PORTIONS THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED.
I MEAN, YEAR YEAR-ROUND POOL THAN RSI AND THE, ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, NO, AT THIS, NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT THERE YOU ARE CORRECT.
THERE IS RSI DOES HAVE THEIR PARCEL THAT THEY ARE LOCATED ON IS QUITE LARGE.
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I HAVEN'T HAD ANY INQUIRIES OR PREHAPS APPLICATION MEETINGS AT THIS POINT FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPERS.THAT IS IT FOR THE FIRST PORTION.
YOU MENTIONED THE HEIGHT A MINUTE AGO.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REVIEW.
LIKE I SAID, IF FOR CONDITIONS FOR STORAGE BUILDINGS, THAT SOMETHING THAT IF WE WERE TO ALLOW IT, AND ONE OF THE, IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR GENERAL MIXED USE, STARTING WITH THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS, THAT IS A CONDITION THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.
I THINK WE WANT THE HEIGHT LIMITED, NO MATTER WHERE IT GOES, RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO ALLOW IT.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE IT OUT.
IT'S ALREADY, THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ARE ALREADY LISTED AS A REQUIREMENT AND THE PUD AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, MARK.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN PUD.
SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT PUSH THE ENVELOPE A BIT.
YES, WE COULD ARC, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I WOULD SAY, YEAH, YES, WE CAN PUSH THE HEIGHT.
I THINK JUST BASED UPON THE LANGUAGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE MANY OTHER SELF STORAGE FACILITIES, IF ANY, PROBABLY THAT HIGH, JUST BASED UPON DISTRICTS AND LANGUAGE, JUST FROM OUR SCRUB ON IT.
I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A PLUG WHEN WE UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXERCISES THAT WE'LL DO AND THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE FOR A VERY LONG TIME IS REALLY TEST AND MAYBE REASSESS OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP ONCE THAT'S INTACT.
AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, OTHERS GOING TO HAVE A MUCH EASIER JOB TO START ALIGNING THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS AND PUTTING THEM IN PLACE ACCORDING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.
WHAT'S COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, OR IN BETWEEN RIGHT NOW, WHAT HEATHER'S DOING AND SHE'S DONE A TERRIFIC JOB IS JUST CLEANING UP THE ORDINANCE BASED UPON SOME CURRENT STANDARDS WHICH SHE ISN'T DOING IS WHAT SHE REALLY WANTS TO DIG IN AND DO.
BUT IT'S, IT'S A HUGE EXERCISE IS REALLY RETHINK SOME OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
WHAT'S ALLOWED, WHAT'S YELLOW, WHAT'S BLUE, WHAT'S PINK.
ALL OF THAT WILL COME WHEN HEATHER DIVES INTO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AND THE FIRST STEP OF THAT IS SETTING POLICY IN PLACE.
AND THAT'S YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS EASIER, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO BACK HER UP AND LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT SHE'S UP TO.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS FIRST ITEM WITH, UM, AND JUST IN SOME OF THE CONDITIONAL STANDARDS AND DEFINITIONS, I INTERRUPTED HER THROUGH THE WAY, AND I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD MAYBE TO INTERRUPT YOU IN EACH ONE AND MAKE COMMENTS.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS FIRST ONE ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH WHAT SHE'S HEARING AND IF I COULD JUST RECAP, IT SOUNDS FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD AND HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT IS THAT A MINI WAREHOUSE SELF-SERVICE STORAGE TO ONLY IN THE PUD IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THEN ALSO FOR, UM, TO INCREASE THE BUFFER AND, UM, MAKE SURE, EXCUSE ME, INCREASE THE SETBACK.
NO, ACTUALLY, IF WE'RE REMOVING IT, WE DON'T NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
THE MAYOR HAD MAYOR HAD MADE A COMMENT THAT IF THE SETBACK, THE SETBACK COULD BE INCREASED AND THEN ALSO TO KEEP BUFFERS MORE IN PLACE.
BUT IF WE ARE REMOVING THAT AS A PERMITTED USE, THEN THAT'S NOLAN BOARD NUMBER.
SO THAT OUR THOUGHTS WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING, COMMISSION, UM, WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND THEN IT'LL COME BACK TO US FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
SO THERE'LL BE TWO OPPORTUNITIES WITH A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND THIS IS, THESE DATES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE, UM, BASED ON MEETING SCHEDULES AND MOVING FORWARD.
BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING WILL REQUIRE A 30 DAY NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THE NEXT STEP IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, TOWN COUNCIL, FIRST READING, AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL, SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING POSSIBLY.
UM, NEXT IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE CHAPTER 23, UM, GENERAL STANDARDS RELATED TO HISTORIC DISTRICT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.
AND THIS WORKSHOP ITEM IS RELATED TO CHAPTER ARTICLE FIVE, THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND IT INCLUDES, UM, A LOT OF HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, DESIGN, UH, REGULATIONS, AND ALSO JUST, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING AND REFLECTING SOME CONSISTENT DECISIONS THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAS, UM, CONSISTENTLY MADE THROUGHOUT TIME.
AND THEN ALSO WHAT'S THE RELATION IS THE LOT WIDTH AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE
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USE A FORM-BASED CODE.SO LOTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE CERTAIN DIMENSIONS IN FRONTAGE.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT ALL LOT WITS BE NO LESS THAN 50 FEET MOVING FORWARD.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS WORKED ON AS PART OF THE, UH, STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN WITH JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE UTO IS ALIGNED, UH, BOTH IN SUBSTANCE AND ALSO IN JUST SOME, SOME INCONSISTENCIES THAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THE CODE AS WE'VE USED IT THROUGH THE YEARS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, INCOME PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED BEEN REVIEWING THIS THROUGHOUT.
UM, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
LIKE WE LIKE THE PREVIOUS WORKSHOP ITEM, THIS I CAN PULL UP THE MATRIX.
THERE'S A MATRIX IN YOUR PACKET THAT LISTS OUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND THE REASONS AND THE CHANGES.
ONE OF WHICH IS AGAIN, RELATED TO THOSE LOT WITS.
IF THERE IS A LOT THAT IS ALREADY BEEN SUBDIVIDED, PLANTED AND RECORDED, THAT'S LESS THAN 50 FEET, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP IT AS SUCH, BUT YOU COULD NOT CREATE ANY NEW LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET.
UM, IT ALSO REFLECTS A LOT OF, AGAIN, HISTORIC DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS.
WE DID WORK WITH LOCAL ARCHITECTS THAT USE THE CODE QUITE A BIT AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A CHANGE OF, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO THE TOWN, UM, ARCHITECT.
WE DO NOT HAVE A TOWN ARCHITECT PER SE, BUT JUST TO MAKE THAT LANGUAGE CONSISTENT.
AND THAT'S THE UDL ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH WOULD BE MYSELF.
UM, ALSO, UH, THE EASY EXAMPLE I ALWAYS GO BACK TO IS SHUTTER DOGS, WHICH IS THE BRACKET THAT HOLDS OPEN YOUR OPERATIONAL SHUTTERS.
UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE SPECIFIC TYPE THAT WAS ALLOWED PER THE UTO.
AND AGAIN, OVER TIME AS PEOPLE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ASKED TO DO OTHER OPTIONS AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAS APPROVED THOSE OTHER OPTIONS.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE REFLECTING IN THE CODE.
SO THAT'S, UM, JUST THE EXAMPLE, THAT'S VERY EASY.
AT LEAST FOR ME TO FOLLOW IS TERMS OF ARCHITECTURE TO JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE THE, THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE CREATIVITY TO COME UP WITH OTHER OPTIONS.
AND LIKE I SAID, I CAN PULL THAT UP, UM, THAT REPORT, IF YOU'D LIKE, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS, IT'S A SIMPLE CHANGE.
I NEVER KNEW WHAT A SHUTTER DOG WASN'T TILL YOU TOLD ME TO LAUGH.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO USE THAT EXAMPLE.
I APPRECIATE YOU SITTING WITH US PRIOR TO THIS MEETING TO GO OVER ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE.
IT'S BEEN, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT WAS EITHER.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO HAVE THEM.
SO YOU'VE GOT FEEDBACK ON THAT.
NEXT IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23.
THIS IS ARTICLE SIX, SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THIS IS WHAT'S REFLECTED IN ARTICLE FOUR ZONING DISTRICTS RELATED TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND PDS SPECIFICALLY AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING PROVISIONS, AS WELL AS THE INCENTIVES IN ARTICLE SIX.
AND AGAIN, THIS JUST SUMMARIZES WHAT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE.
ONE IS THE AMOUNT, THE PROVISIONS FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR NEW PHDS OR AMENDED PDS, AS WELL AS THE OWNER OCCUPIED ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, BUT ALSO THROUGH A RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND THE FIRST, THE FIRST PART OF THAT IS IN ARTICLE FOUR, ZONING DISTRICTS, ALL NEWLY CREATED PUD OR AMENDED PDS ARE REQUIRED A PROVISION OF MINIMUM OF 10% OF THEIR HOUSING UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO WHAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE IS TO INCREASE THAT TO 20% OF THE HOUSING UNITS.
AND WE ARE ALSO STAFFS ALSO, UM, CLARIFYING THAT THIS WOULD INCLUDE AMENDED BEAUTIES FOR THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE PUD SUBJECT TO THE AMENDMENT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF BUCK WALTER, UM, PUD WERE TO ADD ANOTHER AREA OR REQUEST TO ADD ANOTHER AREA OR PIECE OF PROPERTY INTO THAT PUD, AND IT HAS A HOUSING COMPONENT, THAT PORTION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE 20%, HOWEVER, NOT THE ENTIRE BOOK WALTER PUD.
AND THEN ALSO THAT IT'S SIMPLY STRIKES THE LAST SENTENCE THAT STATES THAT THE TOWN MAY ACCEPT A FEE IN LIEU OF A WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THE REASON TOWN STAFF IS REQUESTING TO REMOVE THAT SENTENCE IS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE OR WHAT THAT FEE WOULD BE LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY.
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UM, IF THAT IS AN OPTION, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FEES WOULD BE AND MOVE FORWARD.BUT SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE THAT IN PLACE, WHERE ASKING TO JUST SIMPLY STRIKE THAT SENTENCE, THE OTHER, UM, PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS CONCERNING THE, IN THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES.
SO IF YOU APPLY FOR AN INCENTIVE FOR INCREASED DENSITY, THE, UM, ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY ARE AT 120% AND THE COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED.
AND, UM, THAT, THAT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, JUST BEFORE YOU GET OFF OF HERE, OF COURSE THE, UM, ADDITIONAL UNITS ARTICLES SIX.
THAT, TO ME, TELL ME WHAT THAT MEANS.
I DENSITY BONUS OF TWO ADDITIONAL MARKET PRICE UNITS.
I'LL BE ALLOWED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE UNIT.
US FOR DENSITY INCREASE UP TO 20% TRYING TO GET MY MIND AROUND WHAT THAT SAYS.
SO IN THE, IN THAT CHAPTER, AND WE'RE NOT PROPO STAFF AT THIS POINT, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE HASN'T MADE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE THAT, BUT THERE IS A WHOLE SCALE OF DENSITY BONUSES THAT YOU COULD RECEIVE IF YOU DO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE IS WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND, UM, THE MATH GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT SLIDING SCALE IS.
BUT BASICALLY IN THE RESIDENTIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT, YOU'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO A CERTAIN, YOU CAN GET MORE UNITS.
IF YOU DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO IT'S MATH AND SLIDING SCALE TO GET TO THAT POINT.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO A HUNDRED, YOU CAN GO FROM FOUR UNITS.
IF YOU HAVE ONE ACRE AND BY RIGHT, YOU CAN DO FOUR AND YOU WANT TO DO EIGHT, YOU COULD DO SO, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND WORKFORCE.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SIX, THEN NOT ALL WOULD HAVE TO BE EACH THEM HARRISON'S.
SO THE WAY I'M RE OR I THINK I'M SEEING THE WAY THIS SAYS, IF SOMEONE BUILT 10 AFFORDABLE UNITS, WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD 20 ONUS UNITS.
IN-CITY BONUS OF TWO ADDITIONAL MARKET PRICE, MARKET PRICE, WHICH IS NOT AFFORDABLE RIGHT IN CITY BONUS OF TWO ADDITIONAL MARKET PRICE UNITS SHALL BE ALLOWED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNIT.
SO IF YOU BUILD 10 AFFORDABLE, YOU GET TO BUILD 20 AT MARKET PRICE.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY I ASKED WHAT THAT'S SAYING IN MIND.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT THEN IT ALSO REFLECTS TO THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE.
SO YOU STILL HAVE TO START WITH WHAT YOUR BASE DENSITY WOULD ALLOW.
SO IT STILL DEPENDS ON YOU'D HAVE TO START WITH WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY PERMITTED AND THEN YOU GO FROM THERE.
SO LET'S TELL YOU HAVE, SO WE HAVE AN AMENDED PUD.
WELL, THEY WON'T, WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE, SO THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. SO WE HAVE A NEW POD.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR NEW PUD, EVEN LIKE A HUNDRED, WE HAVE A NEW PD, WE HAVE A NEW PUD AND THE PD, AGAIN, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SO THAT'S THE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN GETTING INCENTIVES TO DO EXTRA UNITS OR MORE UNITS THAN WOULD BE PERMITTED.
SO YOU HAVE A NEW PUD AND PER THAT PUD, YOU, YOU HAVE A HUNDRED UNITS BECAUSE IT'S A NEW PUD AND THAT'S A NEW ZONING DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY ORDINANCE BY COUNCIL.
UNDER THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, 10 OF THOSE UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING UNDER THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
SO IT'S STILL A HUNDRED UNITS REGARDLESS.
SO 90 WOULD BE MARKET RATE 10 WOULD BE WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNDER THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
IT'S STILL A HUNDRED UNITS, BUT 80 WOULD BE MARKET RATE 20 WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THAT'S A SEPARATE, UM, THAT'S A SEPARATE REGULATION THAN THE ONE IN ARTICLE SIX THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
IF THEY, THEY, THEY GIVE YOU THE ABILITY.
SO IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD 80, IF THEY WANT, THEY DO 2104, THAT'S HOW I READ IT.
THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING US OF TWO ADDITIONAL MARKET PRICE UNIT SHALL BE ALLOWED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL UNIT.
SO IF THEY DO 21 UNITS, WE'LL GIVE THEM A HUNDRED AND WE'LL GIVE THEM 82.
SO THE PDS AREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR CHAPTER FOR ARTICLE SIX, I'M READING ARTICLE 4 0 4, WE'RE ON ARTICLE FOUR FOR AMENDED PDS, AUD SAID INCLUDE MORE THAN 20% WORKFORCE
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AFFORDABLE.SO WHAT THEY SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO 22%, WHICH GIVES THEM 22 OUT OF A HUNDRED OF DENSITY, BONUS OF TWO ADDITIONAL MARKET PRICE SHALL BE ALLOWED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL.
SO IF THEY DO AFFORDABLE, THEY COULD BUILD 64 MARKET PRICE, RIGHT.
UNDER THE SAME, A HUNDRED THAT WASN'T THE INTENT.
THE INTENT WAS THAT THAT'S WHAT, UH, SOMEBODY WILL FIND IT, BUT THAT WASN'T THE INTENT TO FIX.
THAT IS NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO, WHAT IT SAYS TO YOU.
IS THAT THE WAY Y'ALL SHIT, TERRY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY OR Y'ALL REWORD WORD IT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT TOO.
THAT'S AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING CONFUSED.
CAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT.
AND I WAS JUST READING THE SLIDE HERE THAT I READ IT AND I DIDN'T EVEN, IT WAS, TO ME, THERE WAS NO COMMAS IN THERE NOW THAT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE.
SO YOU'LL READ, DEFINITELY FIX THAT.
SO IT, BASICALLY, IF THEY'RE COMING ON A NEW P U D WITH A HUNDRED UNITS, 20 OF THEM HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE, RIGHT.
AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WAS WRITTEN.
HEY, WAS CONFUSING AND CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? I DO.
UM, SO IN THIS, UH, PARTICULAR SECTION OR IN THESE TWO ARTICLES, UM, CAN WE LOOK AT OR DISCUSS THE DEFINITIONS OF THE TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE GET CONFUSED, UH, JUST IN TALKING WITH CONSTITUENTS AND LOOKING AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OUT THERE BETWEEN WHAT AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE IS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ESSENTIALLY, IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
AND I THINK IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY BE LIKE A DETERRENT FOR DEVELOPERS.
AND IF THEY'RE COMING INTO AN AREA AND HAVE PLANS TO PUT UP CERTAIN TYPES OF HOUSING AND WE'RE LIKE PUTTING AFFORDABLE SLASH WORKFORCE, WELL, SOME PEOPLE WILL GET AWAY WITH IT IF THEY ARE PUTTING AFFORDABLE WITH OUR HIGH AVERAGE, MEDIUM INCOME.
BUT THOSE WHO ARE IN THAT WORKFORCE BRACKET WOULD NEVER GET THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT THOSE, UM, PDS OR DEVELOPERS WERE PUT IN.
SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD LIKE WORD THAT OR MAKE THAT THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE TWO EVEN POSSIBLY SEPARATE? WE CERTAINLY COULD, AS PART OF ANY PROPOSED CHANGES MOVING FORWARD, THIS WAS JUST, THIS WAS OUR START AND BASED ON THE MEETINGS WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, BUT I MEAN, CERTAINLY THAT'S WHY THIS WORKSHOP ITEMS, SO THAT DISCUSSION POINT WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL OF PUTTING US IN A PIGEONHOLE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS, BECAUSE THEN WE MIGHT BE USING OUR LEGAL SERVICES MORE, BUT HOW DO YOU ENCOURAGE IT? UM, AND DO WE HAVE DEFINITIONS FOR BOTH OF THOSE? WE DO HAVE DEFINITIONS.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DISCUSS AT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND MOVE FORWARD, BUT WELL, NATIONALLY, THE WORD AFFORDABLE IS UNDER 80% A NATIONAL MODEL AND THE WORKFORCE WAS CONSIDERED 81% UP.
SO THE TWO ARE SOMEWHAT INCLUSIVE TO SOME DEGREE, UNLESS YOU JUST PUT AN IDENTIFICATION TO IT.
AND THOUGH IT'S NOT, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I WOULD WANT IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING THING TO SAY 20% NEEDS TO BE WHAT AFFORDABLE WOOD WORKFORCE IS.
I'M SAYING IN OUR DISCUSSION, UM, GOING FORWARD OF OUR TEXTS OF WHAT AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE IS, IF WE COULD HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE TWO, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME THING BECAUSE BY OUR CURRENT STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, OUR WORKFORCE, IF WE'RE SAYING IT'S THE SERVICE WORKERS, IF WE'RE SAYING IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR YOU'RE SAYING TEACHERS, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD, UM, HOUSING AT THAT 100%, OR EVEN WITH THE 80% RATE OF THE AMI IS, AND I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, IF I LANGUAGE, UM, COULD CHANGE THAT BECAUSE IN A SENSE IT'S LIKE WE WORK AGAINST OURSELVES AND PEOPLE THINKING, WELL, IF THEY'RE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE WORKFORCE, WELL, WHERE IS IT? BECAUSE NONE OF THE WORKFORCE IS ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT HOUSING IN THESE AREAS.
SO I'M NOT SAYING TO CHANGE IT AND TO HAVE IT IN HERE THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE TO DO 10% WORKFORCE AND PERCENT AFFORDABLE.
I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, CAN WE HAVE THAT, THE CHANGING OF THOSE DEFINITIONS GOING FORWARD AND LIKE FUTURE THINGS.
SO PEOPLE AREN'T SAYING LIKE, WELL, YOU'RE NOT TECHNICALLY DOING THAT.
LET ME, LET ME CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, FOOTBALL HOUSING COMMITTEE HAS DONE IS
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REQUEST, UM, A PERCENTAGE OF EMI'S.SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT IS THE IT'S THE MAX THAT IT COULD GO, BUT, UM, 60 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT IS WHAT WE REQUESTED.
SO THE EMI IS HOW WE DETERMINE AUDITABILITY.
AND 60% RIGHT NOW IS BELIEVE AS, UM, AFFORDABLE, BASED ON BUFORD COUNTY EMI.
UH BENTEL SO WE CAN GET CLOSER TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS SAYING, WE WANT YOU TO SPREAD THESE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO 20, THEN WE WANT TO GIVE YOU, UM, BALANCE OF BETWEEN 20 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I MEAN, 80 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I'M I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, IN OUR DEFINITION OF THOSE TWO TERMS, THEY'RE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OUR AMI FOR BEAVER COUNTY IS WHAT, LIKE 73, IT'S 86,000 FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR, I THINK A LITTLE OVER 86,000.
AND I THINK WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS BRIDGET, UM, AND SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK WE LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE SERVICE INDUSTRY, WHICH WE'RE NOT MAYBE WRONG TERMINOLOGY, TEACHERS, POLICEMEN, FIREMEN, UH, THE WORKFORCE WOULD ACTUALLY FALL WITHIN THE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THAT WAS ONE REASON WE SCRAPPED THE ONE 20, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET ABOVE THAT, YOU CAN AFFORD A $225,250,000 HOUSE.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE DID LOOK AT ALL OF THAT QUESTION ON WHERE WE PUT THIS, SAY WE WERE PASSING THIS, THIS IS NEW TERRITORY WHERE THE GOODS ARE GOODS OR SHOUTS, OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY ENFORCING, THIS IS NOT OPTIONALLY MORE, HOW DO WE KEEP IT FROM, UM, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS? I MEAN, IS THERE SOMEWHERE IN THIS, WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS 20% WILL NOT BE ON THE INVESTOR MARKET AND WILL NOT BE, UM, SOLD, YOU KNOW, USE IT AND LOSE IT.
SHOULD WE PUT IT IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS? YES.
THEN WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT WORDING.
I JUMPED IN, IN THIS SECTION AND IF YOU READ HEATHER, SORRY TO JUMP IN, BUT IT SAYS, OR UNTIL THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE PAGE REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION HAVE EXPIRED.
SO IN A DIFFERENT SECTION, NOT ON THIS PAGE, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC THAT SHE WILL HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS, ALL OF THAT'S LAID OUT.
SO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S IT'S IN THERE.
IT WOULD, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE PERSON LOOKING ON OUR WEBSITE AT THIS, SEE IT IN SEVERAL AREAS THAT SAME WRITING WOULD BE FUN, I THINK.
AND I'LL BE CERTAIN TO BRING FORWARD THOSE DEFINITIONS AND MORE INFORMATION.
THE NEXT TIME WE SEE THIS AND MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION IN ONE SPOT, BECAUSE THAT'S CORRECT.
THIS SECTION HAS A LOT MORE DETAILS AND REQUIREMENTS ON WHAT IS REQUIRED.
AND ALSO LIKE, UM, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON STATED IF YOU PROCEED, IF AN APPLICANT PROCEEDS FORWARD WITH THE D UH, DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, A HOUSING PLAN IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN AS PART OF THAT.
SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THAT.
AND I'LL BE CERTAIN TO HAVE THAT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FOR YOU ALL, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
SO YOU HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE ALL HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST.
UM, WE'RE STARTING TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A MECHANISM ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THESE ITEMS. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE GOT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX COMING OUT NEAR SEA GRASS, THE GENTLEMAN, THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, THAT WE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OUT IN YOUR NEW RIVERSIDE IS GOING TO DO 10 OF HIS HOME.
SO WE'RE JUST ACTUALLY STARTING TO MIGRATE BACK INTO THIS AGAIN.
AND WE'VE NEVER REALLY FIGURED OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE IT BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE THE DEED RESTRICTION, BUT THEN YOU GET INTO THE PAYMENTS AND THE RENT AND SO FORTH, WHETHER IT'S A HOME OWNERSHIP OR RENTAL.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M JUST THROWING OUT THERE.
WE'VE GOT TO BE LOOKING AT FOUR.
MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION TOWARD THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? DO YOU HAVE ALL OF OUR THOUGHTS? YES.
UM, AND FINALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE NUMBER FIVE ON AMENDMENTS OF OUR SAME CODE, SAME DIFFERENT CHAPTER 28 UTILITIES, ARTICLE FOUR, SMALL CELL FACILITIES BEEN A BIG TOPIC OF THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION.
AND THAT IS, SO THIS IS NOT, THIS WOULD NOT BE INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE UDL.
THIS WOULD BE, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BASED ON THE MODEL ORDINANCE FROM THE MUNICIPAL
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ASSOCIATION AS A SEPARATE, UH, ORDINANCE.SO CHA EXCUSE ME, SEPARATE CHAPTER, UM, MRS. WHERE WE FELT IT WOULD FIT THE BEST.
THIS IN OUR, DOES THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED IN ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS AND OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AS WELL, ALL CELL FACILITIES, THE ORDINANCE, UM, I WILL CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S TO HOW THAT MOVES FORWARD THIS UM, IT'S YEAH.
AND I'LL GET THROUGH THAT WHEN WE GET THROUGH THE, KIND OF THE MEAT OF WHAT'S IN THIS, THIS ORDINANCE, UM, AND THE SUBSTANCE.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO CREATE THAT MODEL ORDINANCE, THIS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A NEW ORDINANCE THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION FOR EVERYONE TO ADOPT.
THERE ARE, I WILL SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL UNKNOWNS OR THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'LL GET INTO THAT DO REFERENCE THAT WE CAN REVIEW ARCHITECTURE, BUT TO A POINT, AND THEN WE CANNOT.
UM, SO IT'S, UH, AND I WILL LOOK TO, UH, THE ATTORNEYS TO HELP ANSWER MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT REALLY THERE WAS A FEDERAL ORDER THAT CAME THROUGH THE FCC ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THAT AND GET AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH REGULATIONS AND PERMITS.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUT ON THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, THAT'S WHY STAFFS, UM, HAS WORKED WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEYS AND ACCOUNT MANAGER TO, TO BRING THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD AND AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IT IN SOME WAY.
AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME FEDERAL BILLS THAT ARE, UM, I BELIEVE AT THE SENATE THAT, UM, MAY AFFECT WHAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH E I CAN PULL IT UP, BUT BASICALLY IT REFERENCES FEES, MAXIMUM FEES, IT REFERENCES WHERE THESE WOULD BE LOCATED.
AND IT IS PRIMARILY THE PURPOSE IS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY TO INSTALL THESE SMALL CELLS, WHICH IS BASICALLY I WOULD REFER TO IT AS A BOOSTER STATION.
SO, UM, RATHER THAN THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY, RATHER THAN DEAL WITH PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTIES, RIGHT.
AND THESE LARGE TOWERS AND CO-LOCATION, AND THE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE ALL INVOLVED WITH THAT MOVED FORWARD WITH THE POSSIBILITY AGAIN, OF THESE NUMEROUS BOOSTERS OR SMALL CELLS THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON PUBLIC UTILITY POLES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IT'S TYPICALLY AT 20 OR MORE IN AREAS TO AGAIN, SEE THIS BOOSTER.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY INQUIRIES TO THIS.
UM, WE, I DON'T KNOW AS IF WE WILL SEE ANY APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTS, BUT IN ORDER TO AT LEAST REVIEW IT AND HAVE AN OPTION THIS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE MODEL ORDINANCE IS RECOMMENDED BY THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION.
THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS THAT IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS YOU CAN REGULATE THE AESTHETICS TO A POINT.
UM, AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE WITH OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT OR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD REVIEW IT SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER, UM, STRUCTURE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS THAT, THAT LEGAL LIMIT THAT'S BEEN SET THAT IF THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, UM, OPTIONS THAT THERE ARE SOME, SOME ALLOWANCES THAT YOU HAVE ARE REQUIRED TO, UM, BE ALLOWED TO MAKE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL LANGUAGE IN THERE.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT, AGAIN, IT'S OUR UNCHARTERED TERRITORY, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, AND IT'S JUST, AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THAT, THAT ORDER TO GET SOMETHING ADOPTED, UM, LOOKING TO, AGAIN, TO MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THERE'S, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT THIS COULD BE OR WHAT OTHER, UM, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SEEN AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND WHAT WE COULD EXPERIENCE OUTS ON THIS.
UM, IT'D BE A CONCERN WE WOULD HAVE.
UM, SO DO HAVE WE, DO WE HAVE ANY PICTURES OR ANY EXAMPLES YES.
IN THE PACKETS, THERE ARE SOME, SO THIS IS LIKE A POLL AND YOU SEE AT THE TOP IT'S,
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THAT'S ONE OF THE SMALL CELLS THAT WOULD BE, THAT COULD BE, UM, HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.SO THEY'RE TYPICALLY ON THE LIGHT POLES IN THE, AGAIN, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS ON HEIGHT, THE BUGS, ONE OF THOSE CELLS.
OR IS IT DOWN BELOW? WELL, IN THE UNIT, I WILL SAY THERE'S TWO PIECES TO THE UNIT.
THERE'S, WHAT'S ON THE POLE AND THEN THERE'S A UTILITY BOX.
SO THERE ARE TWO PIECES, ALL YOU'RE SHOWING, UM, FRED THAT HAVE YOU UP TO SEE AND G AND PALMETTO ELECTRIC ABOUT NOT REQUIRING THEM AT ALL.
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.
AND FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO IS ON THAT'S THE WAY THE FEDERAL LAW IS WRITTEN, THAT IT HAS TO GO ON EXISTING POLES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, PUBLIC, PUBLICLY OWNED POLLS.
AND AFTER THIS WORKSHOP, SHOULD WE, SHOULD I RECEIVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD? WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE UTILITY COMPANIES RIGHT NOW.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S COME INTO THIS AREA IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED, UM, FROM ANYONE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WON'T WON'T HAPPEN.
ONE THING THAT PLAYS INTO IT, LIKE THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE BOARD THERE, OR YOU FLIP THAT ONE, OKAY.
LIGHTING POLE LIKE THAT, WHEN YOU GET INTO WIND LOADING ISSUES, WHAT HAPPENS, IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF ANCHOR YOU HAVE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH, YOU KNOW, WITH WHOEVER, IF YOU USE AN EXISTING POLE OF SUCH.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PURPOSES FROM HOW I'VE UNDERSTAND IT.
UM, TALKING WITH THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION IS THAT IN ORDER TO REQUIRE A PERMIT FROM SOMEONE WHO'S REQUESTING TO DO A SMALL CELL, WE NEED TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO ALLOW THAT OR REQUIRE THAT.
SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT.
LIKE YOU SAID, THE PLACEMENT, THE, THE, UM, WHATEVER PERMITS ARE REQUIRED, WHERE THAT BOX IS LOCATED, THAT IT IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, JUST TO OUTLINE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, ARE THERE THINGS TO MINIMIZE THE PARENTS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED, ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS? UM, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD INCORPORATE AS WELL.
THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS IN TREE DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE ANY IN NO AREA AT THIS TIME.
I WILL SAY, LIKE I ANSWERED THE OTHER QUESTION AT THIS POINT.
I HAVE NOT HAD ANY REQUESTS OR PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYONE WHO'S REQUESTING TO DO THIS AT THIS TIME, THIS, THIS GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL, OR IS THIS COMMONWEALTH PER, UM, FOR THE STATUTE IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BRING FORWARD TO THEM WITH ALL OF THE OTHER CHANGES YOU RECEIVE, ANY INPUT THAT THEY HAVE, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST PART OF THE IMMUNO, IT WOULD JUST BE PART OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, UM, REQUIREMENTS WISE.
IT'S JUST REQUIRED TO GO TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING AND SECOND READING, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL? GREAT.
UM, MOVING ON TO FORMAL AGENDA, WE HAVE ONE ITEM AND THEN ONE ADDED FIRST IS OUR ATEX COMMITTEE FUNDING REX.
THERE YOU ARE REALLY JUST WHILE SHE'S COMING UP, WE DID URGE THESE APPLICANTS NOT TO COME TONIGHT.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS, I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO LET'S TABLE IT, IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE FUNDING AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME AND SPEAK, UM, SPEAK TO IT.
SO NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING, BUT JUST IN CASE, SORRY, I'M JUST GETTING MY ITEM UP.
UM, YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU, UM, THE TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR QUARTER ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2019, THERE ARE TWO APPLICANTS, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS QUARTER, TOTALING $21,652 AT THE TIME OF THE ATEC MEETING THAT WAS HELD FEBRUARY 18TH.
UM, THERE WERE $801,518,000 AVAILABLE FOR DISTRIBUTION.
AND THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN BOTH A TAC, UM, STATE AND LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAX.
THE REASON WHY I STATED THAT IS BECAUSE THE TOWN HAD ONLY RECEIVED ONE MONTH'S WORTH OF THE QUARTER.
SO OUR FUNDS WERE SKEWED A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED THE BALANCE OF THAT QUARTER.
AND SO THOSE FUNDS FROM THE STATE ARE MORE IN LINE IN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM, UM, LOCAL.
BUT AT THAT TIME OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING, THOSE WERE THE FUNDS THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
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THE FIRST REQUEST IS FROM CELEBRATE BLUFFTON.UM, AND THIS IS A REVISION REQUEST OF THEIR CURRENT GRANT.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING TO REVISE THEIR BLUFFTON BUDDY APP, UM, AND ALSO INCLUDE, UM, ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION OF THEIR REVISION.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO A DISCOVER BLUFFTON IN THEIR FIRST PHASE AND THEN GO TO A DISCOVER LOW COUNTRY.
UM, AND I'VE INCLUDED WHAT THEY'RE, SOME OF THEM MATERIALS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, THEY'RE LOOKING TO GO TO MORE QR CODES INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DOWNLOAD THE FULL BLUFFTON BUDDY APP, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SCAN THE QR CODE WITH YOUR PHONE AND THEN HAVE THE INFORMATION COME UP THAT THAT'S MORE WEB BASED AND A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AROUND AND VISIT THE LOCATIONS.
UM, AND THEN OUR SECOND APPLICANT IS MAY RIVER THEATER.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, SUPPORT FOR TWO SHOWS, PLAZA, SUITE, AND THE 25TH ANNUAL PUTNAM COUNTY SPELLING BEE.
UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE, THEY HAVE POSTPONED PLAZA SUITE.
UM, THE DATE FOR WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE SHOW, UM, PERFORM HAS NOT BEEN SET YET, BUT THAT HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
UM, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR $14,520 FOR SUPPORT WITH ADVERTISING, UM, AND PRODUCTION FOR THOSE TWO SHOWS.
UM, NORMALLY THIS IS WHERE I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE APPLICANTS AND WHOEVER FROM THE COMMITTEE, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE FIRST, WE'LL DO ONE AT A TIME.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS BLOCKED AND BUDDY, UM, QUESTIONS ON THIS OF NATALIE.
I DO, I HAVE ONE TOO, BUT THAT'S HARD.
I, UH, WHEN THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION NEXT TIME, LIKE THEY'RE SAYING 42% OF THOSE SURVEYED 42% OF WHAT THE OTHER THING WAS IN, UH, SINCE, SINCE INCEPTION PEOPLE HAVE USED IT.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE RE THE, THE RESPONSE THAT WE RECEIVED, THEY HAD TAKEN, UM, THE ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL TOURISM STATISTICS AS AN ITEM THAT THEY COULD MAYBE CAPTURE TO GO AROUND THEN AND, AND LOOK AT OUR SITES.
SO, UM, THEY, THEY DO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WITH THEIR NEW WEBSITE, THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GRAB SOME OF THAT BACKEND INFORMATION ON WHO IS POTENTIALLY DOWNLOADING THE QR CODES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES INTO SPECIFICS AS WHERE THOSE PHONES MAY BE GENERATING FROM, UM, TOURIST WISE, BUT THEY COULD GIVE STATS ON WHO'S SCANNING, WHO'S GETTING THE CODE.
AND WHO'S LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION QUESTION ON THAT.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING HOW CODES WERE HOT AND THEN THEY DIED AND NOW THEY'RE HOT AGAIN.
UM, DID THEY ASK, DID YOU ASK OR MORE, JUST SO I'LL KNOW, WHERE ARE THEY GETTING PERMISSION TO PUT THESE CODES ON EXISTING SIGNS? ARE, ARE THEY ASKING FOR SIGNAGE? CAUSE YOU GOT TO HAVE A CODE SOMEWHERE TO SCAN IT.
WHAT ARE, DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THEY DIDN'T, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE GEARED TOWARDS THIS MAP IN A WAY.
SO THEY'LL HAVE THIS MAP IN THIS LITERATURE AND THERE'LL BE ABLE TO SCAN WHAT'S ON THAT, WHERE THEY'RE THEN LOCATED.
I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD THINK IF THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY SHOULD COME TO COUNCIL AND REALLY EXPLAIN WHEN WE GET THIS GOING.
IF WE APPROVE IT, I'D LOVE TO SEE A PRESENTATION OF IT AND MORE INFO ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.
AND THEY COULD DO THAT AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND GIVE US A UPDATE FREQUENTLY WOULD BE REALLY NICE.
ANYTHING ON THIS, ANYONE ELSE? SO THERE'S A, UM, AMOUNT REQUESTED 71, 32 AND AMOUNT RECOMMENDED.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UM, A TAX COMMITTEES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DISCOVER BLUFFTON CELEBRATE BLUFFTON INC.
THEIR SECOND, SECOND, YOUR SECOND BECCA, ANY DISCUSSION? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENTS SAYING, AYE.
THAT'S UNANIMOUS NEXT MAY RIVER THEATER QUESTIONS ON MAY RIVER THEATER.
NATALIE, DO WE ALWAYS PAY FOR THE MOVIES DUCTION AS WELL AS OUR ASSIST FOR THE MOVIE PRODUCTION AND ADVERTISING? UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE HAD THE MAY RIVER THEATER COME IN SINCE I'VE, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH A TAX, BUT PREVIOUSLY YES, THOSE RIGHTS IN ORDER
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TO PURCHASE THE PRODUCTION HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE TOWN.UM, AS WELL AS THEN ANY EVER ANY ADVERTISING MATERIALS TO GET THOSE OUT TO THE PUBLIC ACTION.
PART OF THIS SEC, QUALIFIED FOR A TAX, UM, WITH THE RULES, YOU COULD LOOK AT IT AS, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SHOW OR THE PRODUCTION, YOU WOULD NEED TO BUY THOSE RIGHTS.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE, UM, WITH THE HILL HAD SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT EVENT, IT, THEY NEEDED TO HAVE THE TENT.
SO WE SUPPORTED THAT TENT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE THE SHOW QUESTION ON THAT.
YOU SAID ONE OF THOSE, UM, EVENTS WERE POSTPONED ON THEIR WEBSITE.
WE, WE PAID THEM JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE OWN RECEIPT.
SO IF THEY DON'T DO THAT SHOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CREDIT OF SOME SORT THAT WILL COME BACK THAT WILL NOT BE PAID.
SO I'M MAY RIVER THEATER REQUESTED $14,520 AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED $14,520.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEIR RECOMMENDATION? IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, STEP OF SAYING AYE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM TWO, WHICH I DID NOT WRITE DOWN, BUT IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH, UM, UM, EMERGENCY MEETINGS ELECTRONICALLY, RIGHT.
IT'S UM, FOR FINAL READING UNDER THE, UM, UM, THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION.
SO IT DOES NOT NEED FIRST AND SECOND READING.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK, UM, STAFF.
UM, WHO'VE BEEN WORKING WITHOUT SLEEP FOR QUITE A WHILE AND MY PARTNER RICHARDSON BACK HERE WHO'S BEEN, BEEN HANDLED MOST OF IT.
UM, THIS ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, WHEN I GOT HERE EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, I HAD A DRAFT THAT WAS MARKED 2:00 PM.
I THINK MS. FRAZIER WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO PROBABLY GOT A VIEW OF THAT.
UM, AFTER GOVERNOR MCMASTER'S, UM, FOR, I GUESS IT STARTED ABOUT 4 25, UM, HIS, UM, TALK THIS AFTERNOON, WE ADDED SECTION FOUR, WHICH WAS THE TAX IMPLICATION ON DEADLINE.
SO LET ME GO THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE AS FAST AS I CAN FOR YOU.
UM, ONE MINUTE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE FACEBOOK.
WE DON'T HAVE THIS TO SHOW ON THE SCREENS, BUT CAN WE PUT THIS IN AS ATTACHMENT ON OUR AGENDA SO THEY CAN OPEN IT THAT WAY? JUST SO THEY'LL HAVE IT.
I JUST COULDN'T SEE WHERE IT WAS COMING AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK I'M PROBABLY THE OLDEST PERSON HERE IN THE ROOM AND, UH, I NEVER THOUGHT WE'D EVER HAVE TO FACE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
I REMEMBER BEING A KID, UM, STUDYING GOVERNMENT A LONG TIME AGO IN COLLEGE AND, UM, LEARNING ABOUT 50 MILLION PEOPLE DYING IN THE 1918 SPANISH FLU AND HOW THAT TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD WITHOUT AIRPLANES.
AND SO WE ARE CERTAINLY IN A DIFFERENT TIME AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF HOURS SCOTSMEN LOOKING.
UM, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING MAJOR THAT HAPPENED, WE WOULDN'T, I DO KNOW THAT THE RBC HERITAGE, UM, WAS CANCELED, UM, RIGHT ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE CONVENE TODAY.
AND AS, AS VICE CHAIRMAN OF THAT FOUNDATION, I'M SAD BY THAT.
I'M ALSO HAPPY THAT I'M IN FRONT OF A GROUP THAT SUPPORTS IT.
SO, SO HANDILY EVERY YEAR AND WE'LL BE BACK A LITTLE BIGGER AND BETTER NEXT YEAR.
BACK TO JUST EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
UM, IT'S DESIGNED TO DO ESSENTIALLY FOUR THINGS.
UM, THE FIRST IS TO GIVE US A MECHANISM TO HAVE MEETINGS.
IF WE CAN'T GET TOGETHER IN THIS ROOM, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO, UM, TO, UM, HAVE, UM, ELECTRONIC MEETINGS, AS LONG AS BY TELEPHONE, FACEBOOK, SKYPE, WHATEVER.
UM, AS LONG AS ALL OF YOU CAN HEAR AND TALK TO EACH OTHER, UM, THIS ORDINANCE WILL GIVE YOU THAT ABILITY TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT IS SECTION ONE OF THIS MEETING, AND IT TALKS ABOUT AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO PULL EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY ON THE PHONE, UM, THAT, UM, INDIVIDUAL VOTES WOULD BE, HAVE TO TAKE.
AND BY VOICE VOTE, YOU COULDN'T JUST HAVE A, UH, A YAY OR NAY OR A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
UM, MINUTES WOULD HAVE TO BE KEPT, OR THE SESSION WOULD HAVE TO BE RECORDED.
UM, ROBERT TROOPS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLIED WITH, UM, IF WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, IT WAS BE UNDER THE SAME LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE COULD, UM, IN AN OPEN MEETING, UM, THAT ESSENTIALLY IS, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS WOULD BE SUSPENDED, UM, WITH ANY TYPE OF, UM, MEETING THAT WAS HELD WHERE WE COULD NOT GET TOGETHER IN THIS ROOM.
UM, UH, THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE HAS A LIFE SHELF LIFE OF 61 DAYS.
NOW THE SECOND PORTION OF THIS ORDINANCE
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GIVES THE TOWN MANAGER AUTHORITY.THEY IMPLEMENT WHAT HE THINKS ARE OTHER CORRECT AND PROPER POLICIES FOR THE RUNNING OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
UM, HE COULD REVOKE ANY SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS THAT WERE UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UM, HE COULD LIMIT ANY NON-ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
UM, HE COULD, UM, REQUIRE STAFF TO WORK REMOTELY FROM HOME.
UM, HE COULD CLOSE TOWN HALL, UM, OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC TOWN FACILITIES TO THE PUBLIC DURING THE DURATION OF THIS PANDEMIC.
UM, UH, WE WOULD, UM, THE NEXT SECTION HAS TO DEAL WITH, UM, SECTION THREE DEALS WITH THE SUSPENSION OF MUNICIPAL DEADLINES.
YOU ARE PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH, IF SOMETHING WAS SITTING IN, UM, HEATHER'S DEPARTMENT.
AND WE KNOW THAT AN APPLICATION IS IN ON DAY ONE, A PERMIT OR A RULING HAS TO BE DONE BY DAY 60.
SO IF WE WHAT'S THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN BY DAY 60.
THIS WOULD SUSPEND THOSE TYPES OF DEADLINES.
UM, AND WE SPENT, UH, A FAIRLY CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AS TO WHETHER THIS SUSPENSION OF MUNICIPAL DEADLINES HAVE ANY IMPACT ON FOYER REQUESTS DURING THIS PANDEMIC.
WE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ANYWHERE THAT GIVES A YES OR NO ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS, WE WILL COMPLY.
WE WILL ATTEMPT TO COMPLY 100% WITH FOYER REQUESTS IF WE CAN, BUT THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO DO THEM.
UM, THIS, THIS SECTION MAY ALSO GIVE US, UM, SOME LATITUDE IN THAT REGARD WE WILL HAVE FOR YOUR REQUESTS, UM, RESPOND, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, UM, BUT WHETHER WE WILL HAVE THE HORSEPOWER OR THE MANPOWER IN THIS BUILDING TO DO IT, OTHERWISE, I AM NOT CERTAIN TOMMY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ON WHETHER IT COULD EVER BE DONE REMOTELY.
UM, I DOUBT IT, BUT, UM, WE'LL SEE THERE THEN LASTLY, SECTION FOUR IS THE ONE WE ADDED THIS AFTERNOON BECAUSE GOVERNMENT GOVERNOR MCMASTER EXTENDED ALL TAX PAYMENTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA FOR 60 DAYS TO JUNE 1ST, THAT WOULD INCLUDE A TAX AND AGE TAX.
AND SO WE, WE SAID MUNICIPALITY, UM, JUST BY WAY OF INFORMATION, YOU ALSO EXTENDED, UM, UM, INCOME TAXES.
UM, DON'T HAVE TO BE FILED OR PAID UNTIL JUNE 1ST, BUT THAT'S NOT A LOCAL TAX.
SO WE DID NOT PUT IT IN THIS ORDINANCE.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I DID MENTION THE 61 DAY SHELF LIFE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE CINDERELLA WHEN IT, UM, WHEN IT STRIKES MIDNIGHT 61 DAYS, THIS ORDINANCE EXPIRES ON ITS OWN TERMS. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS WAS, I WOULD SAY, UM, DONE HASTILY BUT DONE THOROUGHLY.
UM, WE, WE TRIED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE OTHER ORDINANCE, WHAT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES WERE DOING AROUND US.
UM, WE LOOKED AT WHAT, UM, COLUMBIA WAS DOING.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CLOSED THE MUNICIPAL COURT THAT WAS DONE ON A COURT ORDER FROM, UM, CHIEF JUSTICE BATEY LEFT AT THE END OF LAST WEEK.
UM, SO WE ARE, WE ARE MOVING AS FAST AS OUR LEGS WILL ALLOW US, UM, MARK, ANYTHING YOU THINK I'VE MISSED ON, ON THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE? I THINK YOU HIT IT ALL.
UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN OUR FUTURE, UH, MAYOR SAKA BASED UPON YOUR DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY ORDER TO PUT SOME THINGS IN PLACE, AS AN EXAMPLE, A MORATORIUM ON FUTURE PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS, UH, CURFEW ORDINANCE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING, BUT WITH THE GOOD PART OF THE WAY THIS ORDINANCE IS SET UP IS ONCE THE MAYOR HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY, SHE IS ALLOWED UNDER THAT AUTHORIZATION TO PUT SOME THINGS IN PLACE.
WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH BUFORD COUNTY, UH, WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND ALL OF OUR OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS TO STAY COMPLETELY LOCK-STEP WITH THEM.
SO, UM, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THEM, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC AND PARTICULAR TO BLUFFTON, UM, DIFFERENT THAN THEY MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND I THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY.
IT ALLOWS US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING DIRECTLY TO YOU AND WAS IT WHAT IT DOESN'T DO, WHICH I, WHICH I LIKE IS IT DOESN'T JUST LOCK US DOWN AND LEAVE THE MAYOR AND THE MANAGER TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT.
IT ALLOWS FOR FUTURE COUNCIL MEETINGS DIGITALLY.
UM, AND SO WE CAN KEEP COMMUNICATING.
IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION DIGITALLY.
I WOULD THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN OUR REGION, UM, THIS ISN'T A HURRICANE, WE, WE DIDN'T EVACUATE AND PEOPLE AREN'T ALL OVER THE SOUTHEAST HIDING FROM A STORM FOR A FEW DAYS.
UM, IT COULD BE OVER IN WEEKS.
AND SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO NOT SHUT DOWN SERVICES, BUT I'M DOING MY BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN PLACE AND IN CHARGE ARE NOT STRETCHED SO THIN.
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ALLOWS ME TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS, DECISIONS I STRUGGLE WITH.I TALK WITH TERRY, HE'S A GREAT CONFIDENT.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME, I HAVE THIS, THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE, SCOTT, WHO'S SEEN A LOT MORE THAN, THAN ME FROM, FROM THE MILITARY, BUT A BUNCH OF US.
AND I APPRECIATE CALLING ALL OF YOU TO BOUNCE SOME THINGS OFF.
AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR THE TIME BEING OUR PUBLIC RESTROOMS AT OUR PARKS ARE CLOSED.
WHY NOT? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CLEAN THE BATHROOMS, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES TO CLEAN THIS BUILDING FOR YOU ALL BEFORE YOU GOT HERE TONIGHT, THIS, THIS TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WAS SCRUBBED WITH A BLEACH LIKE SOLUTION AND STERILIZED.
WE HAVE EMPLOYED A CULTURE OF INFECTION CONTROL, AND THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN I CHASED HEATHER OUT OF HER OFFICE TODAY.
SHE KNOWS THAT WE ARE TAKING THIS SO SERIOUSLY.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE LOCKING DOWN AND CLEANING.
AND THEN, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'LL CLEAN AGAIN WHEN YOU LEAVE TONIGHT.
AND SO THAT DOESN'T LET US TO GET OUT TO THE RESTROOMS. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT CAN GO CLEAN, BUT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE EITHER.
AND SO THEY MIGHT BE STRETCHED THIN.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO NOW BY LOCKING DOWN IS SQUASH THAT CURVE NOT STRETCH OUR RESOURCES SO THIN AND NOT CROSS, UH, I WOULD SAY, UH, INFECT EACH OTHER.
THAT ORDINANCE ALLOWS ME TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
IT, IT ALSO LETS US KEEP TALKING.
IS THIS SUPPORTED BY ALL MUNICIPALITIES? DOES THIS ALL, DO ALL OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY HAVE THE SAME THING TO LOOK AT WORKING ON IT? I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM HAVE LEVEL AT THIS POINT.
UM, LITTLE LOUDER, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NEED Y'ALL ARE WAY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
I'M NOT TOUCHING HER BACON PROVISIONS FROM GEORGETOWN AND CHARLESTON AND TRIED TO INCORPORATE THEM ALL INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT FOR YOU.
UH, WE HAVE NOT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, SHARE THAT WITH ANY OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN BEAVER COUNTY YET, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN.
AND WE CERTAINLY WILL TOMORROW.
UH, WE JUST WERE TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER AT THE LAST MINUTE.
SO ANYTHING, ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS FROM COUNCIL? WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS.
I DID NOT GET TO MY COMPUTER AT TWO TO READ IT BRIEFLY WROTE OVER IT, READ OVER IT A MINUTE AGO.
HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS NOT GOING TO ADOPT THE ELECTRONIC MEETING ORDINANCE YET.
I BELIEVE PORT ROYAL MAY CONSIDER AND BUFORD MAY CONSIDER.
I TALKED WITH EVERYBODY TODAY A COUPLE OF TIMES.
THAT'S WHY I SAY IT ALLOWS US TO DO SOME THINGS HERE DIFFERENTLY THAN EVERYWHERE ELSE.
JUST THIS MEETING TONIGHT, IF WE WOULD HAVE PASSED THIS, WE WOULD HAVE HAD ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT RATHER THAN CANCEL IT.
IS THAT KIND OF THE GIST OF IT TO GIVE US A TOOL, IF YOU'RE REALLY NERVOUS, AND THIS IS ANOTHER MONTH TO KEEP THINGS GOING, AT LEAST WE HAVE THIS, BUT IF WE CAN COME TOGETHER, WE CAN QUARANTINE, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU COULD STILL PARTICIPATE AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET IT ON YOUR AGENDA TO NOTHING.
I THINK THAT, UH, AND EVEN EARLIER WANTING TO MENTION IT, UM, THANK YOU TO ALL OF TOWN STAFF, YOU KNOW, MARK, YOU GUYS, EVERYONE'S DONE AN AWESOME JOB IN, UM, CONTROLLING US AND EVEN MITIGATING THINGS OUT TO US.
AND I THINK THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOT AHEAD OF A LOT OF THINGS IN COMPARISON TO EVEN OTHER AREAS I THINK IS, IS AWESOME AND SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOUR, UM, YOUR DEDICATION, HOW SERIOUS YOU'RE TAKING US.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR RESTROOMS THAT ARE PUBLIC PARKS OPEN, AT LEAST DURING THE DAY, I'LL HAVE TO BE OPEN AT NIGHT, BUT DURING THE DAY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE OUT, KIDS ARE OUT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING THEM.
AND I'M QUITE CERTAIN, WE CONTRACT THAT CLEANING OUT ANYWAY.
SO IF WE TELL THE CONTRACTOR NOT CLEANING OUT, WE'RE EITHER IN OUR CONTRACT, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY HIM ANYWAY, MORE THAN LIKELY.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S THE WAY THEIR CONTRACT READS.
SO IF IT, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, AND IF ANYBODY CAN AGREE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE RESTROOMS CLEANED TWICE A DAY AND STAY OPEN DURING THIS.
UM, UNLESS SOMETHING GETS REAL BAD, YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT GETS TO WHERE WE ALL HAVE TO ONLY ON THE, ARE WE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT'S BEEN ASKED AND THAT'S FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF STAY LIKE HOME AND KIND OF OUT OF AREAS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, THINKING THAT OUT OUTSIDE IS THE BEST PLACE
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TO BE.WHAT IS, WHY, WHY DID YOU SUGGEST WE CLOSE THEM? MAYBE DO YOU HAVE A SEC? ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S FIVE OR SIX, MAYBE SEVEN OF THEM TRYING TO COUNT HOW MANY ON THE SPOT HERE, BUT THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN FOLKS INTERNALLY PUBLIC WORKS.
AND SO WE HAVE THEM CLEANING AND CLOSING DOWN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.
AND SO RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, I KNOW IT.
WASN'T GOING TO GET TO THE BATHROOMS THREE TIMES A DAY.
LIKE WE NEED TO, I THINK EVEN MORE IN A PUBLIC RESTROOM.
SO I KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET THERE.
SO MADE THE DECISION TO KEEP THE RESOURCES WHERE I NEED THEM.
AND THAT'S OUR FACILITIES, OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES FIRST TO GET A REAL GOOD, DEEP, CLEAN.
I PULLED THEM OFF THOSE BATHROOMS AND I LOCKED THE DOORS.
I DIDN'T JUST LEAVE THE BATHROOMS AND LET THEM LET THEM CONTAMINATE.
I DO BELIEVE THAT ONCE I CATCH UP WITH THIS AND WE KNOW WHAT OUR IN INTERIM NORM LOOKS LIKE ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE SHUT DOWN.
SO AS AN EXAMPLE, MOST OF TOWN HALLS SHUT DOWN.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BACK, I DON'T ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO, BUT THE HALLWAYS HAVE, DO NOT ENTER SIGNS.
THE GROOMS LOCKED THE DOORS AND POSTED SIGNS DO NOT ENTER.
AND SO ONLY A FEW PARTS OF OUR BUILDING POLICE DEPARTMENT DID, NONE OF US ARE GOING BEHIND THERE, BUT WE CLOSED DOWN.
WE CLEANED AND CLOSED DOWN EVERY OTHER FACILITY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PD PUBLIC WORKS AND A LITTLE BIT OF THIS BUILDING.
ONCE I CATCH MY BREATH A LITTLE BIT AND KNOW WHERE THE TEAM IS AND KNOW WHERE THE CONTRACTORS ARE.
AND IF THIS IS LASTING A LOT LONGER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REOPEN THOSE BATHROOMS AND PROBABLY CLEAN THEM FIVE TIMES A DAY.
I HAVE SHUT THEM SO THAT I CAN LET MY TEAM ABSORB AND COPE, RIGHT.
THEY ALSO HAVE SOME STRESS, BUT ABSORB WHAT'S GOING ON, COPE WITH IT, GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO LOGISTICALLY WHERE I WANT THEM TO BE.
UM, ONCE WE CLOSE SOME THINGS DOWN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT LESS TO DO.
IT'S KIND OF A FRONT END PREPARATION AND PRESERVATION.
I DO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE SELF QUARANTINED AT THIS LEVEL WHERE WE'RE TEETERING BETWEEN OPCON TWO AND OPCON ONE NEED TO BE AT HOME SELF QUARANTINED.
I WILL GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT AS A MANAGER, CARING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF MY TEAM, I ALSO DON'T WANT MY TEAM OUT THERE CLEANING THINGS THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO POTENTIALLY EXPOSING THEMSELVES TO BE INFECTED, TO MAYBE CROSS PATHS WITH A POLICE OFFICER TO GET INFECTED.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M DOING THAT.
I'M LEARNING AS I GO, UM, AS, AS WE ALL ARE.
SO I, I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE'RE STAYING IN THIS STATE LONGER THAN TWO WEEKS, I'LL DEFINITELY, AND, AND YOU KNOW HOW I OPERATE.
I'M GOING TO CALL ALL OF YOU AND SEEK YOUR ADVICE, NOT CALL ALL OF YOU AND TELL YOU WHAT I'M DOING.
EXCUSE ME, THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
YEAH, I'M FINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I I'VE WORRIED THAT WE COULD LEAD TO A LOT OF LIABILITY.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE PLAYGROUNDS, BUT YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
AND THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BY ORDINANCE CLOSED THE PARKS, BUT IF WE CLOSE THE PARKS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR POLICE OFFICERS STRETCHED, THIN RESPONDING TO CALLS? THAT'S NOT ANYTHING I BELIEVE IN.
I SIMPLY CLOSE THE PARKS FOR A MINUTE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS IS.
YOU KNOW, THREE DAYS AGO, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A TWO WEEK SQUASH.
THE CURVE COME BACK TO NORMAL.
CAN WE PUT UP SOME SIGNAGE JUST, OR TERRY TO SAY, WE EXPECT YOU TO, YOU KNOW, BRING YOUR HAND SET TO GIVE SOME KIND OF FREEDOM OF BEING LIABLE AT THE PARKS.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO WASH YOUR HANDS.
WHEN YOU GET HOME, YOU SANITIZERS.
THEY'RE NOT SOME TEMPORARY SIGNAGE WE CAN PUT UP ON OUR PARKS JUST TO, WE WILL CONSTANTLY REMIND SOCIAL DISTANCING MEAN ALL THAT IS THE KEY.
I HEAR IT FROM EVERY MEDICAL END AND AS UP TODAY.
AND IT'S, I STRUGGLE WITH IT TO COUNCILMAN TUMOR'S POINT.
IT'S IT'S KEPT ME UP LATE AT NIGHT, ASKING PEOPLE CLOSE TO ME WHAT, WHAT THEY THINK OF IT.
AND IF, CAUSE IF YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE PARK AND IF YOU'RE THERE, WE'RE LOCKING THE DOOR AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING, WHAT WE'RE WANTING EVERYBODY TO DO IS WASH THEIR HANDS.
AND SO NOW WE'VE TAKEN THAT OPPORTUNITY AWAY FROM THEM.
BUT IF THE BATHROOMS ARE OPEN, WE'RE STILL ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME TO THE PARK.
IT'S IT'S ARE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU WASH YOUR HANDS? CAN YOU CHECK WITH SOME OF YOUR COMPATRIOTS THAT ARE AT YOUR LEVEL? CAUSE I, I HAVE TO BE HONEST, IT WAS ON MY LIST.
IT WAS ON MY LIST OF THINGS ALSO TO ASK THE QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
IF YOU'RE A MOM AND I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, BUT I SAW KIDS AT THE PLAYGROUND ON MY WAY HERE.
AND AFTER TWO TO THREE WEEKS, IT COULD BE A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
BUT IF IT'S NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST, COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE LEARNING FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
I ALSO THINK THIS, UM, IF, IF THE REGION ISN'T CLOSING THEIR PARKS AND LIKE MY OWN FAMILY BOUNCING OFF THE WALLS, UH, AND, AND THE KIDS ARE GOING TO THE PARKS, I'M GOING TO REOPEN THEM.
WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS
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IS SIMPLY DEEP CLEANING THE FACILITIES.WE HAVE CLOSING THEM DOWN, POSTING THE SIGNS AND THEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT.
I COULDN'T THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
SO WHAT I WOULD IMAGINE IS IF WE DON'T COME BACK IN THIS ROOM FOR 60 DAYS AND WE'RE MEETING DIGITALLY ELECTRONICALLY, THEN, THEN MY TEAM WON'T HAVE TO BE IN HERE THINKING ABOUT TOWN HALL AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THEY CAN BE THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC RESTROOMS IN THE PUBLIC REALM, PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE.
I'M SORRY, BECAUSE IT'S ALFRED QUESTION ON WHILE WE'RE IN ON THE, IN THIS CONVERSATION.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE FREQUENCY ONCE YOU GET, YOU KNOW, A SCHEDULE ESTABLISHED, IT WOULD BE THE FREQUENCY OF CLEANING THE, UM, THE PLAYGROUNDS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, TWO DAYS AGO I WAS HEARING TWICE A DAY, YOU KNOW? NO, SORRY.
YEAH TWICE A DAY, A FEW DAYS AGO.
AND THEN LATELY I'VE HEARD THREE TIMES A DAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT ONLY TAKES ONE SECOND FOR SOMEBODY WITH, WITH COVID-19 TO, IN FACT, SO, YOU KNOW, AS OFTEN AS WE POSSIBLY CAN IS THE ANSWER IT'S GOT, IT HAS TO BE A FREQUENCY.
YOU HAVE TO ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK TO MAYOR'S POINT.
YOU I'VE HAND SANDED KIM BETWEEN KIM AND I.
WE HAVE LIKE THREE BOTTLES OF HAND SANITIZER ON OUR DESK.
IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TOLD TO DO BY THE CDC, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
YOU WANT TO GIVE ANY OF THAT AWAY? AND I WILL TELL YOU, SO WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE BATHROOMS, JUST WALK OUR TOILET PAPER.
UM, A LOT OF PARENTS ARE GOING TO BRING THEIR SANITIZERS TO DEPLOY GROUND.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO REALIZE THERE WILL BE MORE CLEANING ON THE PLAYGROUND.
UM, I THINK YOU WERE ALL ON THE FENCE ON THE BATHROOMS. MAYBE THINK ABOUT CLOSING SOM YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO RIGHT HERE? DO WE HAVE TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO BE THE LEADER IN THAT.
I MEAN, THIS, THIS COULD BE LONGER TERM THAN WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS.
AND THE OTHER THING IS MAYBE JUST ONLY CONSIDERED THE PLAYGROUNDS.
DON'T CONSIDER EVERYTHING ELSE.
JUST WHERE THE PARENTS ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR KIDS.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING 30 PARKS, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT A BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG PLACE WE'RE TALKING FOR NOW IN MY MIND, IT'S IT'S DUBOSE PARK.
IT'S NOT OYSTER FACTORY PARK BATHROOMS BECAUSE WE AREN'T ALLOWING ANY, UH, OH.
HOW ABOUT FIELDS OF DREAMS AND DUBOIS? NO.
WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT OYSTER FACTORY.
OUR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO SEE THE RIVER AND THEY DO HAVE A BATHROOM, BUT ARE STILL GOING IN THE RIVER.
WHEN THEY COME OUT THE RIVER, THEY GOT TO USE THE BATHROOM.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? I PROMISE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, IF NOT BEFORE, I'LL, I'LL WRAP MY MIND AROUND THIS.
WE HAVE TERRY, IF WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THIS PROCESS, IT'D BE RECORDED.
ASSUMING WE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY, YOU'RE SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH THE MAYOR AND THE REST OF US ARE CALLING IN.
YOU CAN RECORD THAT FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER LITTLE COMMENT, AND I DON'T EVEN GET MY EYE AND MARK I'M WITH BRIDGETTE.
I COMMEND ALL OF YOU AND THE MAYOR, EVERYBODY DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT'S LIKE TERRY SAID, WE'VE NEVER BEEN HERE IN THIS SPOT.
SO WE'RE MAKING IT UP AS WE GO.
BUT I'VE NOTICED EVEN TODAY, YOU KNOW, THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, LIKE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY, YOU CAN'T EVEN, YOU CAN'T EVEN EVICT PEOPLE FROM THEIR RESIDENCE THROUGH MAY, UH, OR LIKE THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES CAN'T TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF.
AND SO THERE'S THINGS THAT MAY IMPACT US AS A MUNICIPALITY THAT WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION AND JUST KEEP FEEDING IT OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPACTING US.
THAT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T HEAR THOUGH.
AND I'VE HAD IT JUST ADDING THIS.
YOU FEEL IF PEOPLE, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT IN OUR STATE THAT REALLY ARE CHECK TO CHECK AND HARDLY CAN MAKE IT.
NOW, DID THE GOVERNOR SAY THEY CAN'T BE EVICTED FROM ANY RENTAL UNDO? NO, I SAID UTILITY, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR, THEY DID SAY THAT.
PRESIDENT SAID THAT PRESIDENT PRESIDENT SAID THAT THE SUPREME COURT, EXCUSE ME, THERE'S AN AFFLICTION.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT FOR WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME, BECAUSE I HAD THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE TEXT ME TODAY FROM I'M SORRY.
SO AFTER ATLANTA SUPREME COURT SUPREME COURT, WELL, THE SOUTH DAKOTA SUPREME COURT CLOSED DOWN THE METRICS COURT LAST WEEK, WHICH WAS, WERE ALL EVICTIONS HAPPENED.
SO HERE COMES RICHARDSON RICHARDSON.
WHY DON'T Y'ALL TODAY? ALL EVICTIONS CURRENTLY ORDERED A SCHEDULE STATEWIDE FROM MARCH 17 THROUGH MARCH 31ST SHALL BE RESCHEDULED A WAY TO THEN MAY 1ST.
THAT MEANS IF YOU HAVE BEEN EVICTION HEARINGS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED A AND END OF MARCH, IT IS
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ABOUT 80 BY CASE EXEMPTIONS FOR EVICTIONS MAY BE MADE FOR MATTERS THAT INVOLVE THE CENTRAL SERVICES AND OR ARMED.BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T JUST, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE HEARING.
IS THERE, ARE WE OKAY WITH HOW THIS IS WRITTEN? I DON'T HAVE WHAT THE, I DON'T WHAT'S THE MOTION TO THEM IS TO APPROVE AN EMERGENCY EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
YOU'RE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UM, AS LISTED WITH ALL THE VERBIAGE THAT'S LISTED ON THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
AND CAN WE GIVE THE PAPER? YES.
THAT PAPER, THAT PAPER RIGHT THERE.
WE HAVE MONTHLY REPORTS, TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.
UM, THE AGREEMENT RELATING TO
IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE PULLED OFF SPEAK.
NOW, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? OH, ON YOUR SECONDS TONIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
UM, BEFORE WE LEAVE, I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE COMMENTS, WHICH I'M GOING TO RESPOND.
MAYBE SOMEONE CAN RESPOND TO, BUT WE ARE AT MARK.
WE ARE IN A LEVEL OF SERVICE STARTING TOMORROW WHERE PEOPLE CAN STILL RENEW THEIR BUSINESS LICENSES AND THEY CAN DO IT ONLINE ANYTIME.
SO YOU CAN RENEW YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE.
YOU CAN STILL GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND WE'RE STILL DOING INSPECTIONS STARTING TOMORROW.
WE HAD A LITTLE HICCUP IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNTY, BUT WE ARE ON TRACK.
SO ESSENTIAL STAFF, BUT LIFE MOVES, UM, AS NORMAL AS WE CAN BE IN SOME NON ESSENTIAL.
UM, AND Y'ALL, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT NEED OUR HELP.
AND CAISSON WAS WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP ADVERTISE AND PUBLICIZE THAT EVERY RESTAURANT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DELIVER OR CURBSIDE NO CHICKEN IN THE GROCERY STORES.
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT LIGHTLY.
SO WHY DON'T YOU ORDER FROM SOME OF THESE FUN PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR TOWN, UM, AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
SOCIAL MEDIA IS GOING TO BE CRAZY WITH IT.
I THINK BOTH CHAMBERS ARE PUTTING OUT REALLY GREAT MESSAGES OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO LET'S PLEASE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY WILL BE HERE AND WE WILL SURE EXPECT THEM TO HELP US ONE DAY SOON.
SO WE NEED TO WORK DOWN BY A GIFT CARD BY, UH, A CARD FROM YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT.
UM, THEY DIDN'T MENTION FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY DIDN'T MENTION COFFEE SHOPS TODAY.
SO I'M KIND OF, I GUESS THAT'S PUBLIC AND THERE'S NO SEATING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF COFFEE SHOPS HAVE TO CLOSE OR NO INDOOR DINING, NO INDOOR DINING BARS, NO INDOOR EATING OR DRINKING.
SO YOU CAN TAKE IT TO, YOU CAN GO IN AND TAKE IT TO GO AND YOU CAN STILL GO.
THE, YOU CAN STILL GO ON YOUR COFFEE SHOPS.
YOU CAN STILL GO TO YOUR FOOD TRUCKS.
AND IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OH, ALL FAMILIES ALSO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS AN AWESOME, UM, SCHEDULE GOING FOR PICKUPS FOR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH.
UM, IT'S ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
AND BLUFFTON LOCATIONS ARE RED, CEDAR ELEMENTARY AND BLUFFTON HAIM.
AND THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS ALLOWED TO COME HELP OR NOT.
OR IS IT JUST STAFF THAT HE'S, THEY'RE PAYING A STAFF, BUT I MEAN, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BE OUT, LIKE I WAS OUT THERE TODAY, JUST HELPING THEM PASS OUT BOOKS AND SOMETHING, THEY CAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO HELP.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO HELP, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT THEM.
SO, UM, AND IT, PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER, BUT WE CAN TALK TO YOU AFTER WE ADJOURN.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO LOU RICHARD, WHAT DID YOU WE'RE ADJOURNED? Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.