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OF THE AD HOC LEFT AND GROWTH COMMITTEE TO ORDER TODAY'S THURSDAY, JULY 22ND.
AND IT IS 5:00 PM ON THAT FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, OR THEY GET TO STAND AND GRAB AND PUT UP THE DIGITAL FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO THE REPUBLIC, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND, CAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY THE TWO OF US TODAY.
COLONEL GEIER ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA? C A HANDS.
SO I'LL CALL THAT BOAT SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, PLEASE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THAT CORRECT? ROBYN? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MOVING DOWN TO ITEM D, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 27TH, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
DO I HAVE A MOTION, ADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THE MAY 27TH, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE MINUTES, SEEING NONE I'LL CALL THE VOTE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND NOW FOR OUR MAIN EVENT, WE ARE FORTUNATE TODAY TO HAVE WITH US BUFORD COUNTY TREASURER, MARIA WALLS, UM, SHE'S FLYING TO BE DOING A PRESENTATION AND OPENING UP QUESTIONS, A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD FOR US, UH, UM, BLUFFTON GROWTH, KIND OF WHAT SHE'S SEEING IN HER OFFICE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF YOU MAKING THE TIME TO COME TO OUR COMMITTEE, UM, AND HELP US IN OUR WORK AND KIND OF GETTING A BETTER GRASP ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN BLUFFTON RIGHT NOW AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
SO, UM, ROBIN'S GOING TO LET YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN AND I'LL JUST LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY.
WELL FIRST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
UM, WHEN YOU THANK YOU TO RACHEL SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU INVITING ME, BECAUSE WHEN YOU ASKED ME, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THE OFFICE AND DIFFERENT ROLES FOR 10 YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER, I'VE GIVEN YOU GUYS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY PRESENTED.
SO THIS WAS A REALLY EXCITING TOPIC.
AND I, I KNOW YOUR REQUEST WAS TO DO THE SAME PRESENTATION, BUT IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE I THINK YOUR NEEDS ARE YOUR INFORMATIONAL NEEDS ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM A COMMUNITY GROUP.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH, UM, LET'S SEE HERE.
SO I WANT TO START OFF WITH, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION? AND I, UH, THIS IS A SPOILER ALERT.
I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ANYTHING YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW, DRIVING AROUND IN YOUR CAR.
YOU ARE SEEING GROWTH, YOU ARE SEEING MORE TRAFFIC, YOU ARE SEEING MORE HOMES, YOU ARE SEEING MORE CARS FOR PEOPLE.
SO MY, MY GOAL IN TODAY WAS FIRST TO LET YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE DOING FINANCIALLY? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE REVENUES TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT BE A CHALLENGE.
AND THEN HOW MUCH ARE WE GROWING? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY A QUESTION ANYMORE.
IT'S HOW MUCH ARE WE GROWING AND WHERE, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS, IS UNIQUE TO THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE SERVES BECAUSE YOU HAVE SPECIFIC SERVICE LOCATIONS IN THE FORM OF SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND YOUR NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT.
SO A COUNTY BUILDING IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT A SCHOOL NEEDS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THESE THREE QUESTIONS, UM, MORE SPECIFICALLY THEN, WOW, WE'RE REALLY GROWING.
SO LET'S GET STARTED WITH HOW ARE WE DOING FINANCIALLY? AND I WANTED TO START WITH A BASELINE.
WE KNOW THAT THE BILLS, UM, OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS WERE DELAYED THIS YEAR.
SO THE INFORMATION I'M SHOWING YOU IS ACTUALLY WITH TWO MONTHS, APPROXIMATELY
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LESS THAN WE WOULD HAVE HAD ANY NORMAL YEAR.SO AS OF JANUARY 31ST, BY THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, THE BILLS ARE OUT.
AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THE BUILD DOLLARS DIFFERENCE YEAR OVER YEAR.
AND I TYPICALLY PROVIDE THIS REPORT ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BREAK OUT FOR US.
OUR KEY INDICATORS ARE THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEN A TOTAL DOLLARS BUILDING.
HERE'S WHAT I ALWAYS THINK IS INTERESTING.
IT IS VERY COMMON, BUT YOU'LL SEE THE SHIFT BETWEEN JUNE 30TH AND JANUARY 31ST.
SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE SCHOOL OPERATIONS COLUMN.
IT WENT FROM $162 BILLED TO 1 56 IN FIVE MONTHS.
NOW THE COUNTY'S NUMBER DID DECLINE THAT AS WELL, BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME AMOUNT, THIS IS VERY COMMON.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S GOOD, BUT IT IS VERY COMMON.
AND IT TYPICALLY RESULTS IN CUSTOMERS RECEIVING THEIR TAX BILLS AND REALIZING I'M NOT GETTING MY LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION.
AND THEN IT TAKES A FEW WEEKS FOR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO PROCESS THAT.
AND WHEN THE ADJUSTMENT IS MADE, IT DROPS THE BILL DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS WHERE REVENUES WEREN'T, WHAT MAYBE WAS EXPECTED AT, AT A GIVEN POINT IN TIME.
AND WE CAN ONLY COLLECT WHAT'S BILLED.
SO IF THE BILL DOLLARS ARE NEAR WHERE YOUR TOTAL REVENUE EXPECTATIONS ARE, IT IS GOING TO BE OFF.
SO I JUST THOUGHT YOU SHOULD SEE WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE DO HAVE A VERY HEALTHY COLLECTION RATE.
CONSIDERING THE TWO MONTH DELAY THAT WE HAD, UM, OUR DELINQUENT BILLS JUST WENT OUT IN THE PA A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO SEND OUT ABOUT 20,000 DELINQUENT BILLS.
AND WE SENT OUT AROUND 8,000 THIS YEAR.
SO FROM A QUANTITY STANDPOINT, OUR DELINQUENCIES ARE DOWN AGAIN.
WE SENT TOTALLY EQUIPPED BILLS A LOT LATER THAN WE NORMALLY DO.
UM, BUT UNIQUE TO THIS YEAR, WE DID ALSO SEND A REMINDER BILL.
IT WAS SUCH AN ABNORMAL YEAR AND WE THOUGHT OUR CUSTOMERS WOULD BENEFIT FROM GETTING A REMINDER, NOT A DELINQUENT BILL, OUR REMINDER BEFORE THE BILL WAS ACTUALLY DUE.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT PROMPTED ALSO A LOT OF, UM, PAYMENTS TO COME IN THE DOOR.
SO FROM JUST A GENERAL OBSERVATION OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR OFFICES, BLUFFTON IS EXPLODING.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE NEEDING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS WE HAVE IN OUR BLUFFTON OFFICE.
WE ARE GETTING MORE PHONE CALLS, MORE EMAILS, MORE PA I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS JUST MORE CON AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE ALL SEEING.
AND WE ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THAT TYPE OF IN-PERSON TRAFFIC IN OUR VIEW FOR OFFICE.
TYPICALLY BUFORD IS THE BUSIEST.
BLUFFTON WAS A CLOSE SECOND AND HILTON HEAD WAS TRAILING.
AND THIRD BLUFFTON IS ON PART OF SURPASS VIEW FOR EASILY, UM, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AGAIN, NOT SURPRISING, BUT JUST GOOD TO KNOW.
SO LET'S START WITH ACCOUNT VOLUME AND WE'RE, WE KNOW WE'RE GROWING AND THE WAY THE TREASURER'S OFFICE MEASURES, THAT IS THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS WE ARE LOOKING TO PURSUE.
AND I'M FOCUSING ON REAL PROPERTY AND VEHICLES FOR TWO REASONS.
THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF THOSE ACCOUNTS IS INDICATIVE OF THERE BEING MORE PEOPLE HERE, MORE HOUSEHOLDS MEANS MORE PEOPLE, POSSIBLY MORE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
I'LL GET BACK TO THAT AND MORE VEHICLES.
SO WE HAD A 20,000 ACCOUNT NUMBER INCREASE FROM THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR.
AND YES, WE'VE BEEN A GROWING COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE ARE SEEING AN EXPLOSION AND A LITTLE PERSONAL ANECDOTE.
UM, EARLIER LAST YEAR I WAS SPEAKING TO A FAMILY MEMBER WHO LIVED IN ANOTHER PART OF THE COUNTRY AND THEY ARE NOT LUCKY TO LIVE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND THEY WERE, UM, TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WERE, THEY WERE ON LOCKDOWN BECAUSE OF COVID AND THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO THE PARKS.
WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR IS STATE PARKS.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE A LOT OF WALKING TRAILS THAT THE TRAIL THEMSELVES IS A STATE PARK AND YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK AND WALK BY YOURSELF ON THESE TRAILS.
THE MINUTE SOMEONE CAN'T WALK ALONE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A GREAT PLACE LIKE BEAVER COUNTY TO LIVE.
UM, YOU WANT TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WHATEVER THAT IS, RIGHT.
WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY AND I THOUGHT, OH,
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SO MUCH RATHER BE HERE THAN THERE.AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
I DO WANT TO GET ONE HOUSEKEEPING THING OUT OF THE WAY I WILL BE ADDRESSING THREE TYPES OF YEARS.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS THAT OUR BILLING CYCLES ARE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT PROPERTY TYPES.
AND YOU GUYS MIGHT ALL KNOW THAT, BUT THOSE ARE CUSTOMERS ARE TAXPAYERS VIEWING MIGHT NOT REALIZE THE DIFFERENCE.
SO I'M GOING TO PLUG IN AN EXAMPLE, A FISCAL YEAR IS THE YEAR WE USE TO KEEP TRACK OF OUR REVENUE.
OUR GENERAL LEDGER, OUR ACCOUNTING WORK EXPENSES IS FOCUSED ON A FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS GOING TO RUN FROM JUNE TO JULY A TAX YEAR IS THE YEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEND OUR BILLS OUT, WHICH IS AROUND OCTOBER 31ST.
AND IT'LL RUN FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW A CALENDAR YEAR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THE DATA I'M GOING TO BE REFERENCING, I HAVE TO DISPLAY IT DIFFERENTLY, UM, IN SOME OF THE PIECES BECAUSE THE BILLING CYCLES ARE DIFFERENT.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET CONFUSED BETWEEN THOSE THREE.
SO AT THIS POINT, I AM GOING TO WANT EVERYBODY TO GRAB THEIR MAP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DIVE IN, IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN BEAVER COUNTY AND BLUFFTON SPECIFICALLY.
SO FIRST A TAG, CAUSE YOU SEE THE ACRONYM RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN.
A TAG IS A TAX AUTHORITY GROUP.
IT IS A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA ON THE MAP OF BUFORD COUNTY THAT IS ASSIGNED TO OUR MILLAGE RATES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.
SO A PROPERTY THAT IS IN TAG 100.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE, IS GOING TO, UM, GET ALL OF THE MILITARY RATES APPLIED TO IT, COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, ET CETERA, APPLIED TO IT THAT ARE IN THIS GEOGRAPHICAL JURISDICTION.
AND THAT IS HOW I AM ABLE TO EXTRACT TODAY'S DATA THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU AND ISOLATE BLUFFTON.
SO I JUST WANTED TO IDENTIFY THAT THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS MAP BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GROWING EVERYWHERE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TWO TYPES OF DATA FIRST VOLUME, BECAUSE QUANTITY, LIKE I SAID, QUANTITY, AND THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS IS INDICATIVE OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
I CAN'T SPEAK ON POPULATION, BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT TAX BILLS.
SO IT IS AN INDICATION OF POPULATION SHIFTS.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT VALUES BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE YOUR GROUP IS GOING TO DERIVE THEIR TAX REVENUES AND VALUE DRIVES THE BUS ON TAXES.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING TAX RATES AND MILLAGE RATES, BUT YOU FIRST HAVE TO START WITH THE VALUE AND THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE BUS ON THAT TAX BILL AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO NAVIGATE THESE TWO DATAS.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PREVIEW WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE ARE GOING TO START AT A COUNTY WIDE LEVEL, SO YOU CAN SEE A BIG PICTURE AND THEN WE'LL DRILL DOWN INTO THAT BLUFFTON TAG LEVEL.
LET'S START FIRST WITH REAL PROPERTY ACCOUNTS.
SO I ALREADY SAID THAT WE'RE GROWING RIGHT.
AND TO ME TO HAVE MORE REAL PROPERTY THAT IS MORE PARCELS, MORE DIRT.
AND FROM THE CONTEXT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR TOP, MOST VALUABLE TAXPAYERS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE TAX BASE.
SO IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MORE REAL PROPERTY AND MORE VEHICLES, YOU WANT MORE REAL PROPERTY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE A HIGHER VALUE IF THEY ARE NOT RECEIVING THE LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION.
SO THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TRAJECTORY WE'RE ON.
SO BETWEEN TAX YEAR 2020, WHICH WE ARE STILL ONLY HALFWAY THROUGH, WE HAVE A APPROXIMATELY 1200 JUMP BETWEEN 2019 AND 2020.
THAT IS SIZABLE COMPARED TO PRIOR LAST YEAR, IT WAS ONLY 600.
SO IT'S DOUBLE AND WE'RE NOT FINISHED THE YEAR YET.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT SAME INFORMATION, BUT NOW THIS IS BREAKING IT OUT BY AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND DID AGAIN, VALIDATES YOUR EXPECTATION OF THIS COMMITTEE.
I BELIEVE THAT LEFT IN IS GRUMBLING.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE OTHER TAGS, THE OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY, UM, AGAIN, KEEP YOUR MAP OUT THAT TAG 100, UM, HILTON HEAD NORTHERN BROAD SHELDON LADIES ON DIFFERENT AREAS.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH HERE, BUT WHERE IS THAT? BOOM, THAT BOOM IS HAPPENING IN BLUFFTON SIGNIFICANTLY
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WHERE IN COMPARISON, THE OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY ARE VIRTUALLY STAGNANT ALMOST.LET'S DRILL INTO THAT BLUFFTON NUMBER.
SO THIS IS FOR TAG SIX, 10, AND SIX 15.
AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE VIEWING, I'M JUST GOING TO PULL UP REAL FAST, WHERE THAT IS SO 606, 10 ESSENTIALLY IS ALMOST EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THIS ONE LITTLE PIECE RIGHT HERE.
IT IS ALMOST EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE BROAD RIVER, NOT INCLUDING HILTON HEAD.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE NEW RIVERSIDE DOWNTOWN BLUFFTON CALLED JIM RIVER AREA.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST REAL PROPERTY.
SO WHERE DOES REAL PROPERTY, WHERE DO THESE ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTS COME FROM? THEY'RE GOING TO COME FROM TWO PLACES, MAINLY PARCEL SPLITS.
SO A BUILDER LET'S SAY A DEVELOPER FOR EXAMPLE, IS GOING TO COME IN.
THEY HAVE ONE GIANT PARCEL ON THE TAX ROLL.
SO THEY ARE JUST ONE NUMBER IN THIS 13,000 RIGHT HERE.
BUT AS THEY PARCEL OFF THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES TO GROW AND BECOME A COMMUNITY, NOW IT'S NOT ONE PARCEL.
UM, IN THE CASE, MANY CASES OF MANY DEVELOPMENTS IN BLUFFTON, IT'S IN THE HUNDREDS, IF NOT OVER A THOUSAND.
SO OVER TIME AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS.
SO AGAIN, THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING.
SO LET'S LOOK AT NEW CONSTRUCTION AND I JUST THINK THIS IS THE CRAZIEST SLIDE TO SEE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING TAX, LOOK AT THIS.
REMEMBER I SAID, TAX YEAR BEGINS WHEN WE SEND THE ANNUAL TAX NOTICES.
THIS HASN'T EVEN BEEN SENT YET.
AND SO IT'S ONLY REFLECTING A PORTION OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS WHAT'S ALREADY EXPECTED AS OF RIGHT NOW TO BE RECEIVING A BILL THIS UPCOMING OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME, HISTORICALLY.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A GROWTH OPPORTUNITY, UM, A HUGE GROWTH IN 2018 AND WE ARE, UM, IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, YEAR AND A HALF, WE WILL BE HAVING A REASSESSMENT.
THAT'S A CYCLE THAT'S DONE EVERY SO OFTEN, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS SO INDICATIVE OF THE NEW, RIGHT? SO MAYBE NEW CONSTRUCTION MEANS ALL NEW PEOPLE.
SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT, LET'S SEE, LOOK AT NEW CONSTRUCTION BY TAG, BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WHY WE JUST FOCUS ON BLUFFTON, I MEAN ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HAVING NEW CONSTRUCTION ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT EVERYWHERE IS EXPERIENCING A GROWTH IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, NOT JUST BLUFFTON, BUT LET'S LOOK JUST AT BLUFFTON.
THIS IS JUST LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T SENT OUT THE 20, 21 TAX BILLS YET.
AND SO MY EXPECTATION, SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FACT NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO MY, MY SURMISING IS I WOULD EXPECT THESE TO BE A GOOD DEAL HIGHER WHEN WE DO FINALLY SEND THOSE TAX BILLS OUT IN OCTOBER, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE GOING TO BE NEW PROPERTIES COMING ON AND BEING PROCESSED.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF PROPORTIONALLY WHERE THE WHOLE COUNTY IS, AS FAR AS NEW CONSTRUCTION AND BECAUSE NEW CONSTRUCTION MEANS, IF YOU ASSUME THAT EVERYONE PREVIOUSLY LIVING IN BUFORD COUNTY HAS A PLACE TO LIVE, WHETHER IT'S PURCHASED OR RENTING NEW CONSTRUCTION IS MOST LIKELY NEW PEOPLE, NEW FAMILIES, NEW PEOPLE COMING HERE.
SO NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT PROPERTY TRANSFERS BECAUSE WITHOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH INVENTORY.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL OF YOU AND THOSE OF OUR CONSTITUENCY WATCHING, BUT I, ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE GOTTEN AT LEAST THREE NOTICES IN MY MAILBOX FROM REALTORS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SELL YOUR HOME? AND SO WE KNOW THAT OUR REAL ESTATE
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MARKET, NOT JUST FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT EXISTING HOMES IS VERY IN DEMAND RIGHT NOW.SO WE SAW THIS IS CALENDAR YEAR CALENDAR YEAR, AN INCREASE OF ALMOST 3000 MORE TRANSFERS LAST YEAR THAN THE YEAR BEFORE.
AND THE WAY WE CATEGORIZE A TRANSFER, BECAUSE THAT IS THE REGISTERED DEEDS JOB TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, TO HANDLE THE RECORDING OF THOSE DEEDS IS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ANY OWNER CHANGE IN THE TAX DATA, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO THIS IS THE QUANTITY OF CHANGES THAT WE'RE S THAT WE SAW IN CALENDAR YEAR 2020.
AND YES, WE WERE BEFORE, BUT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT OUR, OUR, OUR GLOBAL, OUR GLOBE AND OUR NATION DEALING WITH THE CORONA VIRUS, PANDEMIC HAS PROMPTED SHIFTS IN PEOPLE AND WHERE THEY'RE CHOOSING TO LIVE.
THERE'S JUST, NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S A DEBATE ABOUT THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST HERE CALENDAR YEAR 15, THIS IS A LITTLE UNDER 400 MORE GOING FROM 15 TO 16.
AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM HERE TO HERE, I'M SORRY.
YOU DON'T SEE MY CURSOR FROM HERE TO HERE JUST UNDER 3000.
AND TO KNOW THAT CALENDAR YEAR 2021, WE'RE NOT EVEN FINISHED WITH YET.
SO EAT AT THIS PACE, WE SHOULD BE, IT MIGHT BE JUST ON PAR WITH CALENDAR YEAR 2020.
SO, UM, I DON'T, I, I THINK WE WERE JUST GETTING READY TO START THE MEETING WHEN THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO WISHING TO HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.
AND I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS AS CLOSE AS I CAN GET FOR YOU GUYS TO A CRYSTAL BALL.
IT WE'RE GROWING AND IT'S NOT STOPPING.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THE, THE TAGS.
AND I, IF YOU CAN'T TELL, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I JUST, I LOVE THE DATA.
I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AS A COUNTY AND AS GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, WE CAN USE TO ANTICIPATE FUTURE NEEDS AND PREPARE FOR THEM NOW, RATHER THAN WAIT, AND BE REACTIONARY AND HAVE PEOPLE BE UPSET, AND WE WANT TO BE THE BEST WE CAN BE.
AND THIS IS SHOWING THAT THIS GROWTH IS NOT STOPPING HERE IS WHAT SURPRISED ME.
THE PROPERTY TRANSFERS ARE HAPPENING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INCLINE, THEY ARE GROWING IN ALMOST EVERY AREA OF THE COUNTY.
SO DON'T, DON'T FORGET MY, MY LITTLE, UH, LET ME PULL BACK UP FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
THIS MAP HERE SHOWING THESE, THESE TAX EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY IS EXPERIENCING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF TRANSFERS, PERHAPS RUNNING.
NOW THAT COULD BE NEW PEOPLE MOVING.
IT COULD BE THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS AND THE MARKETS AND THE HYPE OF WANTING TO SELL.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS, IT IS GROWING.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, UM, FIVE 10.
SO LET ME JUST SHOW YOU WHERE FIVE 10 IS FOR IT IS THE NORTHERN END OF HILTON HEAD IS ACTUALLY, THE TRANSFERS ARE EQUAL IN THEIR TRAJECTORY TO THOSE HAPPENING IN BLUFFTON, EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY EQUAL AMOUNTS OF GROWTH.
THE GREEN IS LITERALLY, THIS IS THE SAME LINE I COPIED AND PASTED OVER AND OVER.
SO YOU COULD SEE IT'S CONSISTENT.
AND THEN THAT ORANGE LINE, THAT'S WHAT SURPRISED ME REALLY THE MOST, BECAUSE IT TELLS ME THAT THERE'S NOT AN INTEREST IN JUST NEW CONSTRUCTION IN BLUFFTON OR MORE PROPERTY PARCELS IN BLUFFTON.
IT'S TELLING ME THAT THERE IS AN INTEREST IN OUR ENTIRE COUNTY, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, I MEAN, I LOVE OUR ENTIRE COUNTY.
WHY SHOULDN'T PEOPLE LOVE ALL PARTS OF IT.
THE INTEREST IS ACROSS THE BOARD, WHICH I THINK FOR YOUR TEAM IS A, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO A CRYSTAL BALL THAT YOU, I THINK WE WILL START SEEING GROWTH IN THESE AREAS BECAUSE ALL OF THESE TRANSFERS THAT ARE OCCURRING, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THEIR FAMILY AND TELL THEM WHAT A GREAT PLACE THEY HAVE HERE IN BUFORD COUNTY AND WHY NOT MOVE NEXT TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND OR SO I REALLY THINK ONE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE THE GREATEST ADVERTISERS FOR BUFORD COUNTY.
AND I THINK THIS IS EVENTUALLY THIS TRANSFERS IN THIS GROWTH IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT REAL PROPERTY GRAPH THAT I SHOWED YOU PREVIOUSLY.
IT WON'T JUST BE IN BLUFFTON ANYMORE.
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IT'S GOING TO BE IN OTHER AREAS TOO, IN A GROWING AMOUNT.SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK JUST AT BLUFFTON.
AND AGAIN, THE CALENDAR YEAR IS NOT OVER IF THIS TRAJECTORY CONTINUES AT EVEN JUST HALF.
SO NOT A DOUBLE CAUSE WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, BUT EVEN IF WE ASSUME THAT HALF OF THE CURRENT YEAR'S GROWTH IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE REST OF THE YEAR, WE WILL STAY.
WE WILL STILL HAVE MORE THAN 2200 TRANSFERS THAN WE DID THE YEAR BEFORE.
AGAIN, INDICATIVE I THINK OF PEOPLE AND POPULATIONS MOVING WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND I GOT TO BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE CHILDREN THAT WILL BE IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO WE'VE, I WANT TO PAUSE RIGHT THERE ON REAL PROPERTY, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO, I'M ABOUT TO TRANSITION INTO VEHICLES.
IS THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR THINGS WE WANT TO GO BACK OVER FOR REAL PROPERTY BEFORE I HEAD INTO VEHICLES? OKAY.
THIS IS, THIS IS WONDERFUL DATA AND, UH, IT'S JUST MIND BOGGLING.
IT'S MIND BOGGLING, BUT HOPEFULLY IN THE LIKE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
YOU, YOU TRACK, COULD YOU TELL US THE DIFFERENCE AND PROPERTY VALUES OF THE PEOPLE PAYING THE 4% RATE AND THE PEOPLE PAYING 6% RATE? BECAUSE YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE GET OUR FUNDING FROM, FOR OPERATIONS FROM 6% FOLKS VERSUS NOW WE GET, SO IT LOOKS GREAT FOR DEBT SERVICE, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE THAT IT MIGHT BE SO GREAT FOR OUR OPERATION, UH, REVENUE.
SO I HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW THAT AND, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IT, IT, TO BE HONEST, IT'S NEVER NOT BEEN A CONCERN BECAUSE THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN BEAVER COUNTY, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE JOINED THE TREASURER'S OFFICE HAS BEEN THE MAJORITY OF THAT GROWTH ARE LEGAL RESIDENTS, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THERE'S GROWTH, BUT YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE GROWTH OF REVENUE THAT'S EQUATING TO, YOU KNOW, THAT GROWTH IN PROPERTY.
SO I HAVE QUITE A FEW SLIDES TO COVER THAT FOR YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I GET TO VEHICLES? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED, SO LET'S GO ON.
SO REAL PROPERTY, LIKE I SAID IS GREAT.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT THOSE ARE ROOFTOPS, NOT PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T WANT ANY, ANYONE WATCHING TO THINK THAT WE TRACK THE PEOPLE IN BEAVER COUNTY, WE TRACK THE TAX ACCOUNTS AND MOST ADULTS HAVE A VEHICLE.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME OF OUR POPULATION IDEAS.
THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF VEHICLES, MEMORIES THAT WE'LL START AT COUNTY WIDE PICTURE, AND THEN WE'LL DRILL DOWN INTO THE DIFFERENT TAGS.
AND THEN WE'LL GO TO BLUFFTON.
WE'RE SEEING AN ASTRONOMICAL INCREASE IN VEHICLES.
SO THIS IS BY FISCAL YEAR AND FISCAL YEAR.
WE'VE SEEN A 19 THAT OVER 19,000 MORE VEHICLES, THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT JUST ENDED ON JUNE 30TH, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO THAN WE DID THE YEAR BEFORE THIS, THIS JUMP BETWEEN 19 AND 20, THAT WAS JUST UNDER 11,000 INCREASE.
AND FROM HERE TO HERE OR AT OVER 19,000, OUR, OUR NEXT HIGHEST JUMP IS FROM 18 TO 19, WHICH WAS AROUND 9,500.
WE ARE EXPONENTIALLY GROWING, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
A STAY, A STEADY GROWTH WOULD BE A FEW THOUSAND A YEAR AND WE MOVE ON.
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING, WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE GROWING FASTER THAN WE WERE BEFORE.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE STANDPOINT OF A VEHICLE IS INDICATIVE OF A PERSON BEING IN BUFORD COUNTY.
WE DO HAVE SOME SECOND HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE VEHICLES HERE, BUT PREDOMINANTLY THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING AND WORKING IN P FOR COUNTY THAT HAVE A VEHICLE BILL.
SO NOW LET'S LOOK AT A TAG AGAIN, VERY INTERESTING WITH WHAT WE JUST SHOWED ABOUT THE PROPERTY TRANSFERS, THIS GROWTH ISN'T JUST HAPPENING IN BLUFFTON.
NOW, DEFINITELY A GREATER INCREASE RATE OF INCREASE FOR THE BLUFFTON AREA, BUT EVEN, EVEN LOOK AT HEALTH AND HAT.
AND A LOT OF THE GROWTH HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN FOCUSED IN THE BLUFFTON AREA, BUT THAT'S
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NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK BACK AT JUST THE FEW YEARS, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE SINCE 2011, AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN, IF I HAD SHOWN YOU THIS BACK THEN PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY FLAT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHOOP EVERYBODY, EVERY AREA IS GETTING A SWOOP UP.
SO WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE GROWING QUICKLY.
UM, LET'S LOOK AT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO JUST FOCUS IN ON BLUFFTON.
UM, SO STILL AGAIN, SO THIS IS AGAIN BY FISCAL YEAR.
SO THE YEAR THAT JUST ENDED, SO THIS IS COMPLETE FISCAL YEAR 2021 INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE STILL SEEING A TOTAL INCREASE OF 3,800 VEHICLES FROM FISCAL YEAR 20 TO FISCAL YEAR 21.
AND THE GROWTH AGAIN, IT'S EXPONENTIAL GROWTH.
IT'S NOT JUST A CONSISTENT GROWTH, A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND EVERY YEAR.
UM, FROM 15 TO 2016, WE HAD ABOUT JUST OUT A THOUSAND IN GROWTH, BUT NOW WE'VE GROWN BY 3,800 VEHICLES.
SO FIVE YEARS AGO, WE'RE GROWING BY A THOUSAND VEHICLES.
I ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT, AND NOW WE'RE GROWING 3030 800 VEHICLES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.
AND, UM, WHAT IS ALSO INTERESTING IS THE, THE BIGGEST JUMP WAS ACTUALLY BETWEEN 2017 AND 2018.
THAT THAT'S WHEN THIS BIG EXPONENTIAL GROWTH STARTED HAPPENING.
AND THESE YEARS REALLY ARE JUST FOLLOWING SUIT, WHICH IS, I JUST FIND THAT INTERESTING, BUT IT'S STILL INDICATIVE THAT WE'RE GROWING AND BY HOW MUCH, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO, UH, COLONEL GUYERS BIG QUESTION BECAUSE THE NUMB, ALL OF THIS GROWTH IS CAN BE GREAT FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT, IF THEY ARE THE TYPE OF REVENUE YOU GUYS NEED.
SO THIS GRAPH IS GOING TO SHOW THE QUANTITY OF ACCOUNTS THAT ARE RECEIVING THE LEGAL RESIDENTS AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS.
NOW FOR, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, LEGAL RESIDENCE IS THE PRIMARY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL CARE ABOUT THE MOST.
UM, TYPICALLY IF I HAD SHOWN YOU THIS GRAPH, RIGHT, WHEN THE BILLS WENT OUT, THIS NUMBER WOULD HAVE BEEN LOWER.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED, AT THE VERY BEGINNING AS THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE IS PROCESSING THESE EXCEPTION APPLICATIONS.
THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CLIMB AND WILL RESULT IN A DECREASE OF YOUR EXPECTED REVENUE FROM THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT.
AND SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, THOSE ACCOUNTS ARE TYPICALLY PAID ALREADY AND IS A REFUND.
SO IT'S COMING BACK OUT OF THE REVENUES THAT WE'RE DISTRIBUTING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO JUST A LITTLE OPERATIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW MS. CROSBY IS VERY QUICK TO ASK, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED HERE BECAUSE IT'S NETTED AGAINST THE DISTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TO, TO YOUR TEAM.
SO IT'S, IT IS AGAIN, JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IT IS GROWING.
AND WHAT IS SHOWING ME IS THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE MOVING HERE THAT WANT TO MAKE BUFORD COUNTY HOME THAN THEY DID BEFORE.
WHEN I STARTED IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THE SPLIT WAS, WAS 60, 40, 60%, UM, NON-LEGAL RESIDENTS AND 40% LEGAL RESIDENTS.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A GRAPH IN A MOMENT THAT SHOWS THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTY.
AND ONE OF THE SUBJECTS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, OBVIOUSLY IS THE GROWTH IN BLUFFTON.
DO WE HAVE ENOUGH SCHOOLS? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY? AND IN SOME OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY AS WELL, UM, YOU CAN SEE I'M GOING TO JUST PULL IT UP RIGHT HERE.
SO LET'S FIND TAG 200, WHICH IS THIS GREEN RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE STILL HAVE BLUFFTON DOWN HERE AND THERE, THERE IS BEEN A GOOD BIT OF GROWTH IN LADY'S ISLAND AND THAT AREA OF NORTHERN BRIEFER COUNTY, BUT FROM AN APPLICATION STANDPOINT IN VOLUME, THE BIGGEST VOLUME IS AGAIN IN BLUFFTON.
I TOLD YOU AT THE BEGINNING, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA SURPRISE YOU, OR YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T HAVE ALREADY GUESSED, BUT I, I REALLY WANTED TODAY TO GIVE YOU THE MAGNITUDE OF THOSE NUMBERS OF WHAT THEY ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.
AND HERE AGAIN, IN, IN THE NORTHERN PART OF HILTON HEAD, WE STILL HAVE, HAVE SOME GROWTH THERE AS WELL.
AND THE AMOUNT OF LEGAL RESIDENTS, EXEMPTIONS BEING OBTAINED.
AND, AND IT'S INTERESTING, NOT JUST, UM,
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YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS RESPONSES TO CORONAVIRUS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BUT TELECOMMUTING THAT IS, INSTEAD OF THAT, BEING AN EXCEPTION, IT IS NOW VERY QUICKLY BECOME THE NORM.WELL, THERE ARE SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE AND WORK THERE WHEN YOU CAN LIVE ANYWHERE AND WORK AND BE SOMEWHERE BEAUTIFUL LIKE BEAVER COUNTY.
UM, AGAIN, PRIMARILY IN THE NUMBER OF LEGAL RESIDENCES IN BLUFFTON, WHICH JUST FROM AGAIN, MARIA IS MY PERSONAL OBSERVATION.
THIS IS THE AREA WHERE YOU CAN LEAST AFFORD TO LOSE THAT TAX REVENUE, BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF LEGAL RESIDENTS INCREASING IN BLUFFTON WHERE YOUR GREATEST TRI YOU KNOW, STUDENT POPULATION IS YOUR GREATEST STUDENT NEED IS ALSO THE PLACE WHERE YOU'RE GETTING A GROWING, A GROWING NUMBER OF LESS TAX REVENUES.
I'M SORRY, I'M SAYING THIS TO YOU.
I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ARE GROWING UP, THE TAX REVENUES FROM THAT AREA ARE JUST BASED ON THE GRAPH YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE ARE DECLINING.
SO LET'S LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT, UM, AT BLUFFTON.
SO THESE AREAS THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE, AGAIN, ARE EVERYTHING IN THIS, UM, PINKISH COLOR AND BLUE TAX YEAR 20TH NOT FINISHED YET, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IN RED AT THE END, BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL GOING TO CHANGE.
NOW, THE ASSESSOR DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR PRIOR TAX YEARS.
THAT IS NOT WHERE WE SEE OUR SIGNIFICANT JUMP.
WE SEE OUR SIGNIFICANT JUMP IN THE NUMBER OF LEGAL RESONANCES AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS.
UM, DURING THE TAX YEAR, AGAIN, IT'S PROMPTED BY THE BILLS AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES AWHILE TO GET THAT PAPERWORK AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO WE'RE SEEING, AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE, UM, JUST, JUST EVEN RIGHT HERE.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY ON PAR WITH LAST TAX YEAR.
AND AGAIN, THIS TAX YEAR IS NOT FINISHED.
SO I WOULD SAY FROM A VOLUME STANDPOINT, THE BULK OF THOSE LEGAL RESIDENTS APPLICATIONS I WOULD EXPECT ARE, UM, HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR BECAUSE IT HYPNOTICALLY DOES HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER THE TAX BILLS GO OUT.
BUT I'M N I'M NOT EXPECTING THIS NUMBER TO GO LOWER IS WHAT I'M SAYING AS THE YEAR GOES ON.
SO I REFERENCED WHEN I STARTED, SO THIS IS THE SHIFT FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT, UM, IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE'LL SPECIFICALLY BE ABOUT VALUE FROM 2011 TO 2020, AS YOU CAN SEE, 60% WAS NON-LEGAL RESIDENTS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR SECOND HOMEOWNERS AND IT'S GOING TO BE OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
AND THEN LEGAL RESIDENTS IS GOING TO BE OUR SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
AND, AND PEOPLE'S DWELLINGS WHERE THEY'RE LIVING.
AND NOW LOOKING AT 2020 THAT HAS SHIFTED COUNTYWIDE SIGNIFICANTLY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 45% LEGAL RESIDENTS IN 55%.
SO NOW, UM, BUT I, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY GREATER IN BLUFFTON.
AND I, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, WITH MS NASKI THE LA THE, THE PRESENTATION SHE SAW ME DO LAST, I DID MORE PIE CHARTS, BUT I WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SO I DID THE VALUES BY REGION.
SO THE BLUE LINE IS RECEIVING THE, UM, LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION.
THESE ARE VALUED TOTAL VALUES, AND THE ORANGE LINE ARE THE VALUE OF PROPERTIES NOT RECEIVING THAT EXEMPTION.
AND SO THIS IS A HILTON HEAD AREA, AND BY HACKS HERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, OKAY, THEY'RE THERE KIND OF THING CONSISTENT, RIGHT? THEY'RE PARALLEL TO EACH OTHER.
AND YOU DO SEE IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY A LITTLE BLIP AND A LITTLE BLIP HERE.
UM, BUT THEY'RE MOVING UP IN TANTA.
MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT DATA IS THIS IS OKAY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU'RE GROWING IN BOTH AREAS PRETTY MUCH ON PACE.
HOPEFULLY THE GOAL WOULD BE FROM LOOKING AT JUST THIS GRAPH, YOUR TAX REVENUE EXPECTATIONS, OR NOT CHANGED, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP TOGETHER.
SO NOW WE'LL LOOK AT NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY.
THIS IS EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE BROAD RIVER.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PICTURE VALUES FOR NON-LEGAL RESIDENTS AND LEGAL RESIDENTS ARE INCREASING, BUT NOT, WE'RE SEEING A
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LITTLE BIT MORE FASTER INCREASE IN THAT LEGAL RESIDENCE WHEN THEY DON'T STAY PARALLEL IS AGAIN A VISUAL TO THE DISTRICT OF AN INDICATION THAT YOUR VALUE DRIVES THE BUS ON TAXES THAT THAT TAX BASE IS CHANGING.THE PROPO, THE ALLOCATION THAT TAX SPACE IS CHANGING, AND YOU CAN SEE VERY SIMILAR TO THE HILTON HEAD BLIP.
YOU KNOW, I KEEP FORGETTING, YOU CANNOT SEE MY CURSOR.
THIS HILTON HEAD BLIP RIGHT HERE IS NOW MORE PRONOUNCED IN NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY.
AND, UM, SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED A COUPLE SLIDES AGO, IF YOU DO NOT TRANSFER YOUR PROPERTY, YOU, THE ONLY TIME YOUR VALUE MUCH WILL CHANGE FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE IS IT IS DURING A REASSESSMENT.
WE HAVE NOT HAD A REASSESSMENT.
SO ANY CHANGES IN VALUE ARE DUE TO A PROPERTY TRANSFER.
AND SO IF YOU'VE LIVED IN YOUR HOME FOR SINCE 2017, YOUR VALUE IS THE SAME ON HERE.
SO THE NEXT REASSESSMENT IS GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT TO THE DISTRICT, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT VALUE, BECAUSE THEN EVERYTHING IS REASSESSED AND REVALUED, NOT JUST THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE CHANGED HANDS.
YOU CAN SEE THE GAP RIGHT HERE, UM, IS, IS NARROWING THAN WHAT IT WAS.
SO NOW LET'S LOOK AT BLUFFTON.
THIS IS A VISUAL EXPLOSION OF PROPERTY VALUE BECAUSE NOW THE LINES AREN'T JUST NON-LEGAL RESIDENTS IS MORE VALUABLE.
LET'S SAY TOTAL VALUE IS MORE THAN LEGAL RESIDENTS.
IT HAS SWAPPED, IT HAS SHIFTED.
AND NOW THERE ARE THE VALUE FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT, THERE IS MORE VALUE IN THE PROPERTIES OBTAINING THE NON-LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION THAN THERE ARE IN THE PROPERTIES RECEIVING THE EXEMPTION.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS ALL, THIS IS THE OTHER SLIDE THAT SURPRISED ME AS WELL.
I'M, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND I, I LIVE IN BLUFFTON.
I, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND YOU SEE THESE DEVELOPMENTS, YOU SEE CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY FULL TIME, SO THERE'S INDICATIONS.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE, WHEN YOU SEE THE DATA, I MEAN, IT CAN TELL A STORY WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT IN A WAY THAT WRITES IT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO NOW THAT I'VE LAID THAT ALL ON, YOU KNOW, I AM READY FOR YOUR QUESTION.
THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S REALLY TELLING.
AND, UM, I RECALL SEEING THE PIE CHARTS ON THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, AND THEN THAT JUST SEEING THE PIE CHARTS BACK THEN STARTLED ME SEEING THAT SHIFT IN THE RESIDENT SEES YEAH, THAT'S ME, BECAUSE I KNOW FROM AN OPERATION STANDPOINT AND OUR DEBT SERVICE, THAT THAT HAS HUGE IMPACT FOR THE DISTRICT.
SO AS WE WERE, UM, BECAUSE I NORMALLY DO A PIE CHART WHEN I DO A PRESENTATION, BUT AS I WAS TALKING WITH MY TEAM ABOUT THIS DATA, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR QUITE A FEW WEEKS AND I THOUGHT, OH MY GOSH, WE HAVE TO SEE YOU APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH MORE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT LIKE THIS, BECAUSE YOU, YOU SEE IT.
THIS IS THE TRUTH OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.
WE JUST HAVE TO TRY TO USE IT TO PLAN.
UM, COLONEL BARRY, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
UM, ONE OF THE INTERESTING SLIDES YOU SHOWED WAS THE, UH, THE CAR, UM, REGISTRATIONS.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS MOST INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE HILTON HEAD AREA BECAUSE NORMALLY SECOND HOMEOWNERS DON'T REGISTER CARS.
THEY HAVE A CAR AND OHIO COME DOWN AND THEY'VE RENTED OUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT WHEN I SEE THAT, THAT KIND OF TELLS ME THAT A LOT OF THOSE SECOND HOMEOWNERS ARE EITHER MOVING HERE AND BECOMING PERMANENT RESIDENTS HERE, OR THEY'RE SELLING THEIR SECOND HOME TO SOMEBODY WHO'S TRANSFERRED IN AND, AND STAYING HERE AND NOT USING IT AS A SECOND HOME.
THAT, AND THAT TELLS ME GENERALLY WITH VEHICLES COME KIDS.
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BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS, THERE'S, I MEAN, ANOTHER THING THAT'S GONE UP IN VALUE IS USED CARS.YOU JUST, CAR VALUES HAVE INCREASED.
SO A, A NEW ACCOUNT WOULD BE CREATED FOR A USED A TRANSFER.
SO I'M SORRY IF I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WHEN I WAS GOING OVER THIS SLIDE, BUT YES, YOUR POINT I'M A BODY HAS TO DRIVE THAT VEHICLE, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE HERE, YOU THAT DO YOU HAVE, UH, UH, DATA OR CHART SHOWING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY GROWTH? I MEAN, THOSE ARE 6% PAYERS I'M INTERESTED IN AND YOU HAVE THAT BROKEN.
I DO NOT, BUT I COULD GET THAT FOR YOU WITHIN THE WEEK.
AND, UM, EVEN PUT IT ON IN THE CONTEXT OF THESE GRAPHS.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT TOGETHER, NOT JUST CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF SPREADSHEETS BEHIND THESE GRAPHS THAT I WILL INCLUDE IN THE PACKET.
THE REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS I WOULD LOVE TO GET A COPY OF THIS BECAUSE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO, UH, TO SEE THIS AS WELL.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIC FINANCIAL PLANNING THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DEMOGRAPHER COME HERE TWO YEARS AGO, WORLD-CLASS DEMOGRAPHER AND THIS BLOWS IT OUT OF THE WATER.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE THINGS PRE COVID DON'T REALLY COUNT ANYMORE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S LIKE A WHOLE NEW BALL GAME AND BECAUSE PEOPLE CHANGE, WE ADOPT WE'RE, WE'RE A VERY ADAPTABLE, UM, SPECIES, AND WE WILL ADAPT TO OUR ENVIRONMENT IN A MANNER THAT WE INDIVIDUALLY DEEM IS BETTER FOR OUR LIFE.
SO YEAH, YOU CAN DO ALL THE PROJECTIONS YOU WANT, BUT UNLESS YOU WERE PREDICTING A PANDEMIC, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S USEFUL ANYMORE.
WELL, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SO VALUABLE.
UM, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY WORRYING BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GOING TO, UH, COPE WITH THIS AS WE START TO SEE THE KIDS COME UP AND SHOW UP AT OUR CLASSROOMS. YEAH.
AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, ELEMENTS HERE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I JUST WOULDN'T KNOW THEM.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, WHEN ALL FAMILY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, I, I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S MOVING AND THEIR CHILD WILL STAY VIRTUAL IN THEIR DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT MIGHT BE A THING TOO.
I MEAN, THE ENGINE, AGAIN, PEOPLE'S INGENUITY ON HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES IS JUST, IS, IS REALLY, IS REALLY INTERESTING, UM, TO SEE.
BUT, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER ON BEFORE WE GOT STARTED, UM, ABOUT OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT REGISTRATION WAS JUST RECENTLY OPENED UP.
THEY SENT OUT THE DIGITAL LINKS TO ALL THE PARENTS.
UM, AND TYPICALLY WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THOSE NUMBERS, 45 DAYS AFTER THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
SO, UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THIS CONVERSATION AT SCHOOL STARTS IN AUGUST THIS YEAR.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MS. CRUTCHFIELD, YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT, BUT I WAS WORKING TO REGISTER MY OWN CHILDREN RECENTLY, SO YES, IT WILL.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS START LOOKING, BUT UNTIL 45 DAY THAT'S WHEN THINGS KIND OF SETTLED DOWN, BUT, UM, FROM ONE DAY TO GET TO ANOTHER, I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED ALL YOUR CHARTS AND GRAPHS AND EVERYTHING.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE OTHER PEOPLE'S DATA, IT ALWAYS GETS ME THINKING ABOUT OTHER WAYS TO LOOK AT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.
SO ONE THING I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER DONE IS JUST LOOK AT GROWTH IN STUDENTS, BY THE TAG, YOU KNOW, BY THAT TAX AREA.
SOME OF THEM OBVIOUSLY EQUATE TO MUNICIPALITIES AND I HAVE LOOKED AT IT THAT WAY.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING I MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT FOR, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING GROWTH IN AREAS LIKE LADY'S ISLAND AS WELL.
UM, ONE 12 THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PARIS ISLAND THAT SURPRISES ME.
AND I NOTICED, CAUSE I WAS WANTING TO KNOW WHERE, WHERE IT WAS.
I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF HILTON HEAD, IT COMES AND GOES OVER THE YEARS, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SUPER COUNTY DATA FOR A LONG TIME, BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE INCREASE AGAIN.
SO I REALLY WANT TO OVERLAY OUR STUDENT GROWTH DATA HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND KIND OF MATCH THE YEARS THAT YOU DID TO LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH STUDENT GROWTH AND YOUR TAX
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NUMBERS, YOUR VEHICLE NUMBERS.UM, THAT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU WHEN I, AND I DO WANT TO SAY A VERY SPECIAL THING FOR YOU TO THE COUNTY GIS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY PROVIDED THIS WONDERFUL GRAPHIC.
AND WHAT, AS YOU'RE SPEAKING, I'M THINKING, WELL, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE WE'VE USED THEIR, UM, SUPPORT BEFORE.
IF YOU HAD ADDRESSES FOR THOSE STUDENTS, THEY CAN ACTUALLY PLOT THEM BASED ON THE TAGS THAT YOU OH, OKAY.
SO I CAN PLOT THEM RIGHT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL I'D HAVE TO DO IS GET THAT TAG LAYER FROM THEM AND THEY ALWAYS, THEY'RE AMAZING.
THEY SHARE THEIR DATA WITH ME.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT THE LAST GRAPH YOU HAD WHERE THE LINES CROSS, WHAT POPPED INTO MY MIND, LOOKING AT THAT IS THIS SHOWS THE NEED FOR THE IMPACT FEES THAT THE COUNTY JUST PASSED.
I MEAN, HERE, HERE'S A GRAPH THAT TELLS WE THIS, THIS IS WHY WE NEED THE IMPACT FEES.
AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES TO ALSO SIGN ON TO THAT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT VALUE FROM THE 6% OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE JUST, WE GONNA NEED THAT MONEY.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU DON'T, THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY DOESN'T CONTROL THE LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION AND HOW THAT'S ALLOCATED.
I MEAN, CAUSE THAT'S REALLY, IT'S A STATE LAW AND, AND IN FAIRNESS TO OUR 6% PROPERTY OWNERS, WHETHER THEY'RE SECOND HOMEOWNERS OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TAX BURDEN THAT A TAX BASE CAN BEAR.
AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT I DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THAT IS.
KIND OF JUST COLLECTING THE TAX DOLLARS THAT I'M TOLD TO COLLECT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THIS DOES SHOW GRAPHICALLY THAT VARIOUS AN INCREASING BURDEN, AN EXPONENTIALLY GROWING, INCREASING BURDEN ON ONE PORTION OF THE TAX BASE OVER AND OVER.
BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO SHOW IS, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE'RE PROJECTING KEEPING THE MILLAGE RATE FOR DEBT SERVICE TEAM.
AND THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD, A GOOD IDEA, AND THAT WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN TAX MILLAGE FOR THE 6% FOLKS.
AND THEN THIS SHOW WHO SAID, WHY YOU NEED IT BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE MILL, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS, THIS VALUE DRIVES THE BUS ON TAX.
IT'S THE EXACT EXACT MISSPELT RIGHT.
MY QUESTION IS, UH, THE CHANGE THAT THEY'RE HAVING NOW TO THE BUSINESS LICENSING, KIND OF A BIG ISSUE HERE ON HILTON HEAD BECAUSE IT'S, IF YOU EVEN RENT OUT A ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE NOW, I THINK IT'S, IF YOU MAKE OVER $2,000 A YEAR, YOU HAVE TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR THAT WILL THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE 4% AND 6% LEVELS? SO IF SOMEONE WAS AN OWNER OCCUPIED WHO RENTED THEIR HOUSE OUT MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS A YEAR AND HAD TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE, WILL THEY NAIL THE TASKS AT 6%? THAT WOULD REALLY BE AN ASSESSOR'S OFFICE QUESTION, BUT THEIR ELIGIBILITY FOR THE LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION DOES ALLOW THEM TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY, BUT ONLY UP TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS.
SO I, I NOT KNOWING THE EXACT ANSWER TO THAT.
I WOULD SAY AN EDUCATED GUESS WOULD BE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.
THEY MAY NEED A BUSINESS LICENSE AND STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE LEGAL RESIDENCE.
EXEMPTION JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY NUMBER OF DAYS THAT, UM, I'VE NOT ASKED MS. STEPHANIE, THAT QUESTION, BUT I CERTAINLY AM NOW.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT'S AN ISSUE HERE ON HILTON HEAD IS THERE IS DEFINITELY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS OF YESTERDAY, I LIVE IN FIVE 50, THERE ARE ZERO HOMES FOR SALE.
UM, AND MOST OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE WITH KIDS.
A LOT OF THEM ARE PEOPLE WITH KIDS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER, ACTIVE RETIREES THAT ARE RELOCATING FROM ATLANTA AND CINCINNATI.
AND I'LL BE JUST LIKE YOU SAID, AND THEN A LOT OF IT TOO, LIKE IN SEED POINTS, IT'S AN INVESTMENT AND PEOPLE ARE BUYING CASH SIGHT UNSEEN AND RENTING IS RENTING THEM OUT.
SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS THE, UM, OUR TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I MEAN, EVEN JUST OBSERVING OVER THE WINTER MONTHS, WE TYPICALLY, I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY HAVE A TOURIST SEASON AND
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YOU COULDN'T, IT WAS CHALLENGING TO FIND A WEEKEND PLACE ON THE ISLAND TO RENT.AND EVEN IF YOU DID THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU, WELL, I'M HERE FOR THREE WEEKS.
I'M HERE FOR TWO MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WHY BE WHERE THEY ARE IF THEY CAN WORK HERE.
SO, AND I TOLD SOMEONE RECENTLY, IF YOU'RE HERE, I'M SORRY, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A MONTH, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
AND IF YOU DO, IT'S ONLY TO GO BACK AND SELL EVERYTHING AND GET HERE AS FAST AS YOU CAN.
UM, YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE TOUCHED ON IT BEFORE, BUT FOR THOSE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING AND ARE NEW TO OUR AREA AND NEW TO HOW SOUTH CAROLINA FUNDS, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS DIFFERENCE AND LEGAL RESIDENTS VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE NON-LEGAL RESIDENTS AND IT'S BECAUSE THE TAX BASIS OR THE TAX PERCENTAGE OF THEY TAX THAT, UM, CERTAIN ONES, CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, IT GOES INTO OUR OPERATIONS AND THEN THE OTHERS GO INTO OUR DEBT SERVICE.
AND SO UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE THERE, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW IN OTHER STATES, EVERYBODY THINKS THAT THEY PAY INTO THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST BY BEING AN ILLEGAL RESIDENT.
AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPENED IN BLUFFTON IN PARTICULAR, AND WE HAVE A BOOM IN STUDENTS AND WE NEED, UM, CAPACITY TO SERVE THOSE STUDENTS, IT CREATES A BIT OF A CONUNDRUM FOR US.
SO, UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO COME HERE TO SPEAK TO US MS. WALLS.
UM, I THINK THAT THIS INFORMATION IS LIKE COLONEL DIRE TOUCHED ON GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHO COLONEL GEIER AND I BOTH SERVE ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO TRICKLE INTO OUR DISCUSSIONS OVER THERE.
I WANTED TO SEE IF ANY OTHER, UM, OF OUR VIEWERS LET'S SEE.
I THINK WE HAVE, UM, ROBERT AUDITING, IF HE HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY ELSE HAD ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE WRAP THINGS UP HERE, INGRID HAS HER HAND UP AGAIN, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
JUST IN CASE THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ANY OF THESE GRAPHS UPDATED PERIODICALLY, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU.
UM, YOU JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND, UM, I I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT FOR AWHILE.
MARIA, IF YOU COULD SEND THOSE, YOUR CHARGE TO ROBIN.
I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, THE NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING SHOW THAT.
AND I WOULD SAY IF YOU UPDATE, UM, PERHAPS END OF OCTOBER, THAT WOULD BE END OF TAX YEAR AND THAT KIND OF COINCIDES WITH 45 DAY ENROLLMENT TIMEFRAME ISH.
YOU KNOW, UM, SO THEN WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR SETS, SIMILAR DATA AT THE SAME TIMEFRAME, WORKING, LOOKING BACK AND LOOKING FOR.
IT WOULD PROBABLY, I WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE OCTOBER 31ST NUMBERS ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH NOVEMBER.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF ACTUALLY HAVING THE 20, 21 TAX BILLS COMPLETED.
SO WE'D GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING OUT.
THAT'S UM, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A CLEARER PICTURE AND ADDING IN THOSE ADDITIONAL DATA POINTS FROM YOU, CAROL WILL BE ILLUMINATING.
AND I THINK FOR NOT JUST FOR THE BLUFFTON AREA, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A NEW COMMITTEE GOING TO LOOK AT NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY.
AND CERTAINLY SINCE WE'RE SEEING SOME CHANGES THERE, THIS WOULD BE GREAT INFORMATION FOR THEM TO START THEIR WORK WITH.
WELL, I'M WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME AND TREASURE WALLS.
AND, UM, THE LAST THING WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA IS DISCUSSING FUTURE TOPICS.
SO WE, I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, UM, BUT I WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING AND SPEAKING WITH US.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO GATHER ALL THIS AND YOUR TEAM AS WELL.
CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A GREAT TEAM BEHIND YOU.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UM, YOU EVER WANT TO SEE, ESPECIALLY IN NOVEMBER, I'M GOING TO COME BACK, PLEASE JUST TELL ME NOW WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO ALL OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
SO MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
I THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO CONSIDER HERE.
UM, I KNOW CAROL, YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE TAGS AND,
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UM, AND PUTTING KIND OF MARRYING UP TREASURER WALLS AS INFORMATION ALONG WITH THE TAGS AND WHAT YOU SEE, UM, WITH STUDENT POPULATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE CAN GET BY NEXT MONTH.
I KNOW YOU'RE SUPER BUSY, BUT IF SO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE, TO KIND OF TRY TO BEGIN THAT, UM, CONVERSATION TOO.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD, I MEAN, THE DATA'S ALREADY THERE, IT'S JUST ADDING ONE LAYER TO THE MAP AND GRABBING IT AND THROWING IT IN A CHART.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY DO FOR NEXT TIME.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S A CORRELATION THERE WITH THOSE GROWTH NUMBERS, JUST TO VALIDATE IT SOME MORE.
I'D LIKE TO ADD ON A FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT SEARCH IN THE BLUFFTON AREA, REAL ESTATE, UH, SEARCH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE REMEMBER WE ASKED TO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TO COME IN AND YEAH.
AND THE C WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY CONSULTANT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY SOME LAND AND WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT.
I THINK THERE ALSO WAS A REQUEST FROM A, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER TO DISCUSS THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD COME TO THE FULL BOARD FIRST OR COME TO US, BUT EITHER WAY, UM, WE CERTAINLY WILL BRING IT BACK UP.
IT'S ON THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE FOR THE FULL BOARD.
I THINK SOMETHING ABOUT LOCATION IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH AND WHERE, BUT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THESE THINGS AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND THE PROPERTY? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM OFF? YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR MOBILES, RIGHT? SO THIS IS, UH, THIS REALLY ONLY SOME SLEEP OVER THIS ONE, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS SERIOUS.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS, THE ONE THAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AS WELL.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT BELONGS ON THE AD HOC LEFT AND GO WITH COMMITTEE'S AGENDA OR ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE'S AGENDA.
BUT JUST IN LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT TREASURE WAS PRESENTED AND SEEING THAT THE QUANTITY OF THE BILLS THAT ARE GOING OUT AND PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT MIGHT BE GOING TOWARDS DEBT SERVICE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR DEBT SERVICE IS GOING TO BE PAID DOWN FASTER, UM, OR IMPACTED, UM, AND THAT COULD IN TURN LEAD TO SOMETHING ON THE AD HOC LEFT IN BOTH COMMITTEES AGENDA IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT BELONGS THERE YET, BUT MIGHT WANT TO HAVE FINANCE LOOK AT FIRST.
ANYTHING ELSE? ROBERT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO STAY, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF INTERESTING THING HERE, AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR BY OVERLAYING THEIR DATA IS TRYING TO GET A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN STUDENT GROWTH AND THE OTHER GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY RELATED.
WE'VE NEVER TRACKED OR CO-RELATED THEM.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FACTORS ARE AND HOW THOSE ARE RELATED.
CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING GROWTH WITH PEOPLE, WITH KIDS AND HOW TO FIGURE THAT OUT IS WHAT THEY JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER AND STUFF.
AND I KNOW CAROLYN, I CAN TALK ABOUT NOW.
I WAS KIND OF WONDERING WHY YOU WANTED TO OVERLAY, UH, THEIR TAG GROWTH NOW, BEFORE WE HAVE OUR, UM, OUR NEW STUDENT GROWTH.
AND WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DO THAT AS PART OF OUR BOOK FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, BUT I DO IT.
WE CAN START TO THINK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE RELATED, IF THAT'S, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.
DEFINITELY START LOOKING AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S A CORRELATION OR, OR NOT.
IF THERE'S NOT THEN DINNER, WE KNOW IT THE BETTER, IF THERE IS, AND THE DEEPER WE CAN DIVE INTO IT AS OUR NUMBERS DEVELOP, UM, THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR, THEN THE BETTER TOO, IN MY PERSONAL VIEW.
WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS MY W WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A CORRELATION.
IT JUST MAY BE DIFFERENT FOR THE DIFFERENT ZONES AND IT MAY NOT BE AS DIRECT AS WE ARE SEEING IN THE DIFFERENT ZONES.
SO THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S THE INTERESTING PART TO ME.
WELL, I LEAVE THAT TO YOU AND CAROL TO DISCUSS FURTHER AND BRING TO US FOR US TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO TREASURE WALLS AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
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ADJOURN BEFORE YOU ADJOURN? OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST THE 26TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK.IS THAT GOOD? LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AUGUST.
GOOD FOR YOU, CAROL AND ROBERT HAVING HAD DEF, UH, ONE OF US WILL BE HERE, THERE.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THANK YOU.