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[I. Call to Order]
AFTERNOON, EVERY TOMMY AM I GOOD TO GO? GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.AND EVERYONE FOLLOWING US ON, UM, OUR STREAM.
UH, THIS IS A REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE ALL OF COUNCIL PRESENT.
UM, WE WILL START BY, UH, STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND FOLLOW UP ON THE INVOCATION.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE AND HEALTH IN THE PROSPERITY OF OUR TOWN AND LOVED ONES WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED GUIDANCE AND OUR LEADERSHIP AND DECISION-MAKING SKILLS AND ACTS THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PROTECT AND KEEP EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AND CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR TOWN IN JESUS NAME.
[IV. Adoption of the Agenda]
THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, MR. STEVE, ANY CHANGES TO THE, OKAY.IT'S NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THERE? SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[V. Adoption of the Minutes]
HAVE ONE SET OF MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE MEETING.IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THOSE OVER, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO SARAH MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF JUNE 8TH THERE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[VI. Presentations, Celebrations and Recognitions]
TO OUR PRESENTATION, CELEBRATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, WE HAVE THE FIRST IS OUR BUFORD COUNTY, UM, STUDENT OF THE MONTH.AND MR. STACY, THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME TO SEE THIS.
WE, UM, ARE PART OF THIS WITH THE WHOLE CLUSTER.
OUR CLUSTER IS WELL OVER 26,000 STUDENTS AND HALF OF THEM ARE IN THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER AND EACH SCHOOL FROM KINDER PRE-K OR KINDERGARTEN TO, TO SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, SUBMIT A STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOR THE CHARACTER TRAIT.
AND OUR CLUSTER PICKS ONE AND WE LIKE TO BRAG ABOUT IT AND HAVE THEM HERE AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THEM HERE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
BUT THIS ONE GOES TO GRACE TINSLEY AND SHE'S AT MICHAEL C RALEIGH ELEMENTARY AND THE TRAIT IS RESPONSIBILITY AND COOPERATION.
I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS, BUT I'M WANTING HER TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
IF SHE'S AT HOME WATCHING SHE'S THE SECOND, UM, HER SECOND GRADE TEACHER SHARES THAT STUDENT RESPONSIBILITY OCCURS WHEN STUDENTS TAKE AN ACTIVE PART IN LEARNING, BY RECOGNIZING THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR SUCCESS IS DEMONSTRATED WHEN THEY MAKE CHOICES AND TAKE ACTIONS WITH LEAD SIMS, WHICH LEADS THEM TOWARDS THEIR GOAL OF EDUCATION.
UM, SHE IS THE EPITOME OF THAT AND DEMONSTRATES RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER LEARNING AND BEING A LEADER, HER CALM, DEMEANOR, UNYIELDING WORK-ETHIC AND GENUINE CARE FOR OTHERS MAKES HER A LEADER.
SHE'S BEEN A JOY AT MICHAEL C RALEIGH.
SINCE JOINING THIS YEAR, SHE COMES TO SCHOOL EACH DAY, READY TO LEARN COOPERATE WITH OTHERS AND COLLABORATE TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND SUCCESS.
WE ARE SO PROUD THAT SHE REPRESENTS OUR SCHOOL FOR STUDENT OF THE MONTH AND WE ARE TOO.
SO GRACE WILL GET YOU A CERTIFICATE AND A COIN.
AND, UM, WE JUST ARE SO PROUD OF YOU AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SHOULD ALL LOOK UP TO YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND, AND HOW THEY START EARLY ON.
NEXT IS A PRESENTATION OF BUFORD COUNTY CONNECT, 2021 BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN.
ROB MERCHANT IS THE ACTOR IS THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF BUFORD COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE HAVE HIM ON ZOOM AND WHEN WE GET HIM UP, HE WILL JUMP INTO HIS PRESENTATION.
AND I THINK THIS IS MORE FOR JUST INFORMATION.
SO LOCO IN THE COMING MONTHS AGAIN, SO ROB YOU'RE UP.
WELL, THE YOU HERE FOR OTHERS' NEEDS FOR A LEADER.
I WAS FOLLOWING THE MEETING AND I REALIZED, I THINK THE BROADCAST IS REAL TIME.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ROB.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT.
UM, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A PROJECT PERFECT.
OUT THE, UM, FILE THE PRESENTATION, UH, IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, IT SAYS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PUT ON OR DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE, TO SHARE MY SCREEN IT RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S, YOU'RE AWARE, I THINK WE'VE SHARED THIS WITH US.
SO LOCO, UM, AND ALSO WITH LATS,
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A B PER COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES, UM, ALSO WITH, UM, WITH THE EAST COAST GREENWAY, UH, THE LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS AND THE SCHOOL ON WITH, UM, ADVOCACY GROUPS, SUCH AS THE FRIENDS OF THE SPANISH MOHS TRAIL, UH, HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL APP, HAPPY TO COMPETE ON A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN.THE IDEA IS TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD NETWORK OF MULTI-USE PATHS IN, UM, NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN DIFFERENT COUNTY AND ESPECIALLY IN HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND THE CHALLENGE IS HOW CAN WE BUILD ON THAT AND CONNECT PEOPLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO JOBS, TO PARKS, YOU KNOW, IN CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT WE HAVE A VIABLE, UM, TRANSPORTATION MODES AND RECREATION AND DO FOR COUNTY.
UM, YOU CAN GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND Y PLAN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ENDING FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITY IS POSTED DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES.
YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PHYSICAL EXERCISE, PUBLIC HEALTH, IT DECREASES TRAFFIC AND EMISSIONS.
IF IT'S CHOSEN AS A TRANSPORTATION MODE, IT PROVIDES MORE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO FACILITIES.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO NOT ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE TRANSPORTATION.
UH, IT ENHANCES OUR SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND PLACE.
IT CONNECTS US BETTER, UM, IN GOOD FACILITIES, SAFEST ABILITIES, REDUCE
SO THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO REALLY BUILD ON OUR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN NETWORK.
UM, YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE OBJECTIVES OF THIS PLAN, AND THIS EFFORT UP REALLY ARE THREEFOLD.
THE FIRST IS JUST MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS.
WE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD NETWORK.
WHAT, HOW COULD WE BUILD ON THAT NETWORK TO CONNECT TO MORE PEOPLE, UM, THROUGH OUR MULTI-USE TRAIL NETWORK, UM, MAKING, WALKING, AND BIKING A ROUTINE AND SAFE CHOICE FOR, FOR TRANSPORTATION, IF PEOPLE WISH TO BIKE PLACES, HOW COULD WE MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION FOR THEM? YOU KNOW, IT IS FOR SOME BUT NOT EVERYONE.
AND SO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD WE MAKE TO, TO REACH OUT TO MORE PEOPLE AND MAKE THAT POSSIBLE? AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER OBJECTIVE IS EQUITY.
YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, IN CYCLING, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, GOOD FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR ECONOMICS STATUS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN OBJECTIVE IN THIS PLAN GO TO THE NEXT SPOT, GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
SO, AS I SAID, FIRST, MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, OR THIS PLAN REALLY TARGETS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BICYCLE, ESPECIALLY BICYCLE FACILITIES, UM, IT COULD MEAN ANYTHING FROM A PAGE SHOULDER TO, EXCEPT FOR IT.
UM, I PAD THAT, THAT IT COULD ALLOW TRAFFIC TO GO TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
THIS PLAN FOCUSES MORE ON THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES THAT MOST PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE USING.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THOSE WHO ARE BRAVE AND ARE CYCLISTS HAVE NO PROBLEM USING BIKE LANES OR PAVE SHOULDERS THAT MOST OF US WOULD CHOOSE TO BUY, OR IF THERE WERE SOLEUS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE SAFE AND ALLOW US TO GET AROUND SAFELY, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY TARGETED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE GROUP THAT YOU CAN REALLY, THAT WILL CHANGE HABITS IF YOU HAVE GOOD FACILITIES.
AND THEN FINALLY THIS PLAN IS, UM, IT'S ARRANGED AROUND A SPINE AND SPUR APPROACH.
THE IDEA IS THAT YOU HAVE EXISTING SPINES IN SOUTHERN BEAVER COUNTY IN PARKWAY IS SERVING AS ONE AND BUCK BOULDER AND ONE 70.
SO IF YOU HAVE THIS NETWORK, THEN THE SPURS WOULD BE TRAILS TAPPING INTO THAT AND PROVIDING MORE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH CONNECTIVITY TO, TO THESE EXISTING MULTI-USE PATHWAYS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, UM, FRAMEWORK THAT WAS USED AT DEVELOPING THIS PLAN.
THIS IS A REAL QUICK MAP, UH, COMPARISON OF OUR EXISTING AND COMMITTED PROJECTS.
UM, SO WE HAVE A PRETTY, OBVIOUSLY A BRAIN NETWORK ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
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THE BEGINNINGS OF A REALLY GOOD NETWORK IN BLUFFTON, AND THEN ALSO IN BUFORD, IN PORT ROYAL WITH THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL.AND SO THE IDEA IS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE TRAILS TO BUILD ON HOW CAN YOU DO THAT AND REACH OUT TO MORE COMMUNITIES? UM, TH THE NEXT MAP SHOWS A, YOU KNOW, THIS PLAN FULLY AND WILL, THIS IS WE'RE FOCUSING ON BLUFFTON.
ONCE THIS PLAN IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED, THEN, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW CAN THIS NETWORK SERVE THE COMMUNITY? THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IN THE BLUFFTON AREA.
UM, THESE ARE THE EXISTING EXISTING MULTI-USE PATH NETWORK, AND IT, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO DRAW THE LINE OF WHERE THAT IS, BUT TYPICALLY EIGHT FOOT MINOR GREATER WHERE WE'RE TWO LANE, TWO BICYCLES CAN PASS EACH OTHER ON THE, ON THE SAME, UH, PATHWAY.
SO YOU'D HAVE THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, BUCK, BOULDER PARKWAY, UM, ONE 70 OF NEW RIVERSIDE.
SO IF YOU SEE IN THIS MAP, THERE'S REALLY GOOD GETTING INTO CONNECTING THE BLUFFTON AREA.
SO WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WHICH IMPROVEMENTS ARE LIKELY ARE WE RECOMMENDING IN THIS PLAN? WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE COMING FROM THE, UM, ANY SALES TAX PROJECTS, SUCH AS ROADS, UM, WHERE THERE'S AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE MULTI-USE PATH PROPOSED TO HILTON HEAD ISLANDS BRIDGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAS, UH, A MULTI-USE PATH COMPONENTS.
IN ADDITION, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, EFFORTS IF THE TOWN HAS BEEN MAKING OVER THE NEW RIVER, UH, LINEAR TRAIL AND CONNECTING TO THAT FROM THE NEW RIVERSIDE PARK.
UM, AND THEN ALSO ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT RECEIVES A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT WAS, UM, EXTENDING BUCK ISLANDS AND MO WE'LL USE PATHWAY NORTH OF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND ACCESS INTO SOME OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, UH, WESTBURY PARK AND THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA.
SO THESE ARE THE IMMEDIATE PROJECTS.
UM, AND I WILL SAY KIND OF AS A CAVEAT, THAT THERE WERE A FEW THINGS STILL PLAY, UM, BLUNT, UH, BIRD CHURCH ROAD IS A PROJECT THAT RATHER THAN BEING A PENNY SALES TAX PROJECT, THE COUNTY IS WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE MULTI-USE PATH, BUT, BUT IT'S COMING FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.
SO WHAT YOU SEE THIS, UM, HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH WHEN IT'S COMPLETED AND READY FOR ADOPTION, THERE'LL BE, MIGHT BE SOME CHANGES WHERE THIS HAS FOR CHURCH ROAD IS ONE OF THE IMMEDIATE PROJECTS, WHICH I THINK MAKES ALL THE SORT OF RIBBON MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT CONNECTION.
AND THAT ALSO REALLY DOVETAILS WELL INTO THE SIDEWALK, IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE TOWN IS WORKING ON AN AREA.
YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, MID RANGE, THIS IS SIX TO 10 YEARS.
YOU COULD BEGIN TO SEE HOW THIS NETWORK IS FORMING.
ONCE AGAIN, THAT FOR CHURCH ROAD, WE THINK IT'S MORE IN THE IMMEDIATE RANGE, BUT THIS, THIS ADDS THE WES COMPONENTS OF THE NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL, WHICH COULD ALSO BE A FEATURE PHASE OF WHAT THE PARKWAY, UM, 46, UM, BOTH TO PARKWAY FIVE EIGHT, IF THAT EVER GETS COMPLETED, THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE NETWORK THERE A CB NEW RIVER CAMPUS TO THE, UM, ONE 70 PATHWAY, AND THEN CONTINUING THE ONE 70 PATHWAY NORTH, AT LEAST TWO OLD FIELD, THE GOAL IS EVENTUALLY TO HAVE A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION.
AND IF WE GO TO THE LONGTERM PROJECTS, ONCE AGAIN, KIND OF FILLING IN, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, NEW REFERENCE SIDE, CONNECTING IT BACK OVER TO CHRISTINA AND TALK ABOUT SAWMILL CREEK AND PROVIDING CONNECTION TO THE BOAT LANDING THAT AREA HAMPTON PARK CURRENTLY HAS A SIDEWALK PART OF THAT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO CONNECT THAT TO ONE 70.
SO THIS KIND OF GIVES ME AN IDEA THIS MEANS FOR THE BLUFFTON AREA.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BLOCKCHAIN IS REALLY FOCUSING ON A LOT OF GOOD CHECK TOUCHES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SEVEN, THE SIMMONS SPILL BUCK ISLAND ROAD AREA, UM, GUTHY ROAD, SOME OF THE, THE OLD TOWN IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THIS IS KIND OF, UM, IDEA WITH THIS PLAN IS TO CONNECT PLACES.
SO YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY IN THE OLD TOWN AND WHAT THIS IS, THEN YOU CAN GET INTO BIKE AND GO TO ANOTHER PLACE SUCH AS THE
UM, BUT THAT'S A NUTSHELL KIND OF WHAT THIS MEANS FOR BLUFFTON
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JUST REAL QUICKLY.I CAN TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.
UM, WE ALSO IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCES.
WE REALIZED THAT IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, EVEN THAT HAS TO BE, UM, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
UM, ONE OF THEM, OF COURSE, IS THE CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE 2018 REFERENDUM IS FUNDING.
THE INTENTION IS TO CONTINUE WITH THAT, LOOK AT IT, LOOKING AT LATS, THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION STUDY, UM, THAT THE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT GET PASSED THROUGH OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, UM, COULD HAVE A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN COMPONENTS, IF THAT BECOMES A PREDICTABLE ANNUAL FUNDING SOURCE THAT COULD, COULD HELP IMPLEMENT PART OF THIS PROJECT.
LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAX IS ALWAYS A GOOD, A FUNDING SOURCE FOR LOCAL MATCHES, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GOING AFTER GRANTS, UM, FOR, UM, OTHER PROJECTS CURRENTLY THE COUNTY VERY SITE SPECIFIC THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER, UM, LAUREL BAY ROAD IN NORTH BUFORD COUNTY WITH A GRANT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY CHARGED WITH PROVIDING, UM, IMPROVEMENTS FOR AREAS WITH MILITARY POPULATIONS.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE GRANT.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS MAY HAVE SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCES THAT, THAT WE CAN GO AFTER AND IDENTIFY THEM, AND THEN HAVE SOMEONE DEDICATED TO, TO GO AFTER, UM, GRANT FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE PLAN LOOKS NOT ONLY AT SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT ALSO LOOKS AT SETTING UP A FRAMEWORK TO, UM, TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF PROJECTS, HAVING A, UM, LOCAL NONPROFITS TO ADVOCATE FOR, FOR PROJECTS IN BEAVER COUNTY.
UM, HAVING A STAFF PERSON WHOSE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO OVERSEE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE INCORPORATED IN A LONG RANGE TRANS TRANSPORTATION STUDY.
SO THINGS LIKE THAT ARE SETTING THE STAGE, YOU KNOW, LETTING PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, BE MORE SUCCESSFUL.
IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUTREACH AND ADVOCACY.
I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF THE BROAD IN THE BLUFFTON AREA, WAYFINDING, YOU KNOW, COULD REALLY ENHANCE THE EXISTING NETWORK, YOU KNOW, AND SO WHAT STEPS CAN WE TAKE THE ABR PROJECT ORIENTED TO REALLY, UM, INCREASE THE VISIBILITY AND, YOU KNOW, OR IT'S THROUGH THE APPS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE ARE BICYCLES STILL AT THESE AND YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN GET AROUND THEIR COMMUNITY USING THEM.
BUT THIS IS REAL QUICK PRESENTATION, AND I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THE GOAL IS TO COME BACK TO YOU, YOU KNOW, EITHER NEXT MONTH OR THE FOLLOWING MONTH WITH A PLAN IS FINALIZED.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS ADOPTS BY RESOLUTION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
CUTE ROB, ANY QUESTIONS AT COUNCIL? AND THANK YOU, ROB.
UM, HAD THERE EVER BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION COMING FROM BUCK WALTER PARKWAY BACK INTO THE, UH, TOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT? I NOTICED THE SCENIC HIGHWAY, BUT I KNOW IT WOULD CONNECT TO ALL THE OTHER AREAS WEST OF THERE.
YOU KNOW, AND I ACTUALLY NOTICED THAT, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON 46.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AND IT DOES KIND OF, UM, SEE LIKE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP IN THE FUTURE PLAN.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH BLUFFTON STAFF ON AND OUR TASK FORCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO? SO LOCO, IT REMINDED MYSELF OF THAT.
UM, AND HAVE YOU SUBMITTED IT TO LATS YET, ROB, OR YOU WANT TO WAIT TO GET TO LATS? ARE YOU THINKING OF GETTING THIS IN THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN? YEAH.
I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH STEPHANIE ROSSI.
UM, THEY FINALLY HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD AND THEY'RE BEGINNING THEIR PROCESS THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF, THAT, THAT THE IDEA IS TO INCORPORATE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THE LABS OR TRANSPORTATION STUDY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROB, FOR, FOR DOING THIS AND MAYBE THE NEXT TIME YOU'LL BE HERE IN PERSON.
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YES, SIR.[VII. Public Comment]
MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT VIRTUALLY THEY'RE IN A WAITING ROOM.CAN THEY HEAR ME, KIM, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME AND I'LL REMIND YOU, JUST, UM, SPEAK TO COUNCIL ON JUST, UH, AVOID ANY DISRESPECT TOWARD COUNSELOR OR ANYONE ON STAFF OR ARE IN THE ROOM AND KEEP YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT TO THREE MINUTES.
WE'RE VERY STRICT ON THAT AND I WILL CALL YOUR NAME AND I THINK YOU'RE ALL IN THE ROOM AND WE'LL GET YOU UP AND GET YOU TALKING.
UM, WHO DO YOU HAVE? WHY DON'T WE GO TO YOU, KIM? WHO DO YOU HAVE THAT WE CAN PULL UP? WELL, THEY ASKED ALL OF THEM TO LIST THEIR NAMES.
SO DO WE HAVE MARION PURDUE? LET'S GO AT THE TOP AND WORK OUR WAY DOWN AND WE'LL FIGURE THIS OUT.
I DON'T HAVE A PIN KILLER, ERIC.
I THINK YOU'RE CONNECTING AND CAN'T HEAR ME YET.
OKAY, HARRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME ON THIS COMPUTER, GARY, PLEASE UNMUTE.
IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOUR, THERE YOU GO, CARRIE.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU TONIGHT.
I'M THE HOA PRESIDENT FOR THE FARM OF BUCK WALTER.
UM, I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE ISSUE OF FLOODING AND BOND.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH HURRICANE MATTHEW WOULD AFFECT IT AND DEBILITATED THE ENTIRE AREA.
UM, SOMEHOW THE FARM BECAME THE POSTER CHILD OF FLOODING FOR THE AREA OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
UM, THE, WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN IN EFFECT THAT IS FOLLOWED DILIGENTLY.
IT'S BASED ON THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON STORM WATER DESIGN MANUAL FOR WET DETENTION PONDS, SECTION SEVEN POINT 14.3, AS WELL AS VEGETATED SWALLOWS THAT SEVEN POINT 11.3.
WE'VE BEEN PERFORMING BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE REPORTS AND IMPLEMENTING ALL RECOMMENDATIONS AND UP SINCE BEFORE THEY WERE REQUIRED.
BY THE TIME, UM, WE HAVE BIMONTHLY MAINTENANCE PERFORMED DURING THE SEASON OF MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER AND THEN MONTHLY ON THE OFF SEASON AT THE SUGGESTION OF THOMAS AND COTTON, WE HAD CAROL CALIBRATED READING SIX PUT INTO OUR LIVE DUNES, UM, SO THAT WE COULD PINPOINT ANY ISSUES WHATSOEVER.
AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE IS CONCERNED, UM, UH, IN COMMUNITY, EXTRA REPORTS, ALL RAINFALL, UM, BOTH CAN REPORT ANY ISSUES.
SO THEY WERE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.
UM, WE HAD TO FORM COMMUNITY WITH THE TOWN OF BLOCKSTACK AND THOMAS AND HUTTON IN ATTENDANCE, UH, TO EXPLAIN HOW THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WORKS AND THE ROLE OF THE FARM AND WHAT IT PLAYS IN IT.
THE MOST RECENT WAS AUGUST, 2019 AT THAT LAST FLOODING ISSUES IN BLUFF, AND THEN DISCUSSION FROM BOTH PARTIES THAT THE SYSTEM MAY BE INSUFFICIENT AND NEEDS TO BE GRADED, UPGRADED GOING FORWARD SINCE ONLY LESS THAN 50% OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY DEVELOPED.
UM, WHAT OUR PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE IS RIGHT NOW, I AM ALSO PART OF THE LAGOON COMMITTEE AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE DUNES THAT ARE FLOODING.
WHAT, IN OFF A BUCK, WALTER, THE REC CENTER AND THE REST OF THIS PORTION OF THE TOWN, THE WETLANDS ARE NOT ABSORBING IT.
IT JUST FREE FALLS LIKE A WATERFALL AND FLOODS OUR STREETS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I'M NOT TALKING MAJOR STORMS, I'M TALKING REGULARLY.
UM, IT'S AFFECTING OUR PROPERTY VALUES, OUR INSURANCE COSTS, AND QUITE HONESTLY, A LOT OF ANXIETY AND STRESS
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ON OUR HOMEOWNERS.EVERY TIME I'M STORING THIS FORECAST, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS POSSIBLE ADVICE OR SOLUTIONS, UM, ON WHETHER THE TOWN ENGINEER HAS LOOKED INTO ANY SYSTEM FAILURES, PARTICULARLY IN THE WETLANDS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE FARM HAS NO AUTHORITY TO WALTER PROTECTED WETLANDS WHERE THE OVERALL DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND BLOCKS THEM.
UM, WE'D ALSO NEED TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOUR TIME IS UP.
UM, AND WE'RE ALL TAKING NOTES AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING ON TONIGHT.
YOU WANT TO DO HER NEXT? OKAY.
DID YOU GET CARRIE'S ADDRESS KIM? OKAY.
IT'S UM, BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL.
IF YOU WOULD QUICKLY GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO YOUR TIME STARTS, WHERE DO I DO THAT? YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND START WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU HEAR ME, KAREN? CAN YOU HEAR US? DID Y'ALL HEAR WHAT SHE SAID? OKAY.
AND WHAT ELSE DID YOU NEED THAT YOU JUST START FROM THERE? THAT'S FINE.
SO MY CONCERNS ARE, UM, FLOODING NOT SPEED OF THE DRIVERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AS I SAID IN MY COMMENTS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON EVERYTHING.
I APPRECIATE THAT I'M NEW TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND LIKE I SAID, IN THE COMMENTS HAD TWO FLOODINGS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
ONE WAS ADDRESSED QUITE QUICKLY BY THE HOA.
THE OTHER ONE WAS WITH COUN AND I, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND THE WATER THAT THEY WERE FLOODED FOR TWO DAYS IS GOING UP THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO HAVE CONES PUT BOTH ENDS TO DIVERT THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SPEEDING THROUGH IT.
AND I HAVE A GREAT FEAR OF MY HOME BEING FLOODED BECAUSE OF IT.
UM, UH, REGARDING THE SPEEDING, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FROM OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THERE WAS, UH, A THOUGHT TO PUT SPEED BONDS IN.
AND I WAS WONDERING ONE, IF THAT COULD BE REVISITED, IF ONLY ON THE BUSIEST STREETS FOR, ESPECIALLY WITH SAFETY, THE CHILDREN WILL WALK INTO SCHOOL.
AFTER THE FLOODING IN THIS DAY AND AGE, I'M SURPRISED THAT A PERMANENT SOLUTION CANNOT BE FOUND TO NOT HAVE THE FLOODING WE HAVE AT THIS QUAD AND ESPECIALLY OVER STRIVE.
IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS ELLA MILLPOND ROAD AND PERFECT TIMING.
I JUST STOPPED MY CAR TO PICK MY WIFE UP.
DID YOU HEAR ME? YES, YOU CAN START THIS IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT PHILLIPS.
WELL, I SUBMITTED MY, BUT I PROPERLY, UM, UM,
SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NERVOUS, LIKE KEEP AN EYE ON IT A LOT TO MY HOME TO TRY TO IT ON MY END AS BEST I CAN, BUT NO, JUST WITH THE RAIN THAT CAME DOWN FROM ELSA THE OTHER DAY, THE FIVE INCHES, FIVE TO SEVEN INCHES, I REALLY SAW THAT REALLY THERE'S TWO PROBLEMS IN THERE.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE WETLANDS ON ALL BRIDGE, BUT IT'S ALSO THIS DRAINAGE RIVER BEHIND
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MY HOME AND I'M BEHIND THE WAYSTATION CP 27.AND, UH, THAT REALLY TURNS IN, STARTED TURNING INTO A LAKE BACK THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STRAINED DOWN AFTER THREE DAYS, BUT IT JUST KIND OF CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THAT WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S REALLY BOTH OF THOSE WATER SOURCES THAT SURROUND, YOU KNOW, UPON ROAD, I THINK, AS IT DID OF HURRICANE MATTHEW.
SO ARE THERE ANY SOLUTIONS TO THIS? IS IT A, IS IT A LEGAL, UNRESOLVED LEAK BOTTLE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND, UH, HOA AND IF THAT'S NEVER GOING TO BE RESOLVED, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY BUDDIES THAT WOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PUMPING, PUMPING OUT THAT, UM, THAT LATE? SHOULD IT EVER HAPPEN AGAIN? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN.
WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL I HAVE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT I WROTE DOWN IN WRITING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S UNRESOLVED AND I KNOW THE HOA HAS DONE EVERYTHING THEY COULD WITH THE SEWERS AND THE DRAINS AND IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOOD, BUT IT'S JUST TOO MUCH WATER BETWEEN THE WETLANDS AND THIS DRAINAGE RIVER.
AND I THINK IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE FLOODED AND NOBODY HELPS US OUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON AND SPEAKING AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
I GET NUMBER DOWN EIGHT, SIX, PETER.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU CAN START WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN START WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
HI, THIS IS PETER
AND THE COMMON FORM IS TALKING ABOUT THE DRAIN THAT IF THE HOA IS CORRECT AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THAT ALL THE DRAINS ARE OPERATING THEM PROPERLY.
THAT WHY DO WE KEEP ON FLOODING? AND IT LOOKS LIKE ME AND A LOT OF OTHER RESIDENTS, THERE'S TOO MUCH WATER COMING INTO THE FARM COMMUNITY.
NOW, IF THAT'S NOT DUE TO OVERDEVELOPMENT, MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE CORRECT THE PROBLEM? IF WE NEED MORE DRAIN AT THE FARM WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, IS THE TOWN RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT OR THE ASSOCIATION THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? IS IT OBVIOUS WE NEED SOMETHING DONE WITH THE DRAIN? SO DO I GET A RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION? ALL I GET TO DO IS MAKE A COMMENT.
THIS IS WHERE WE LISTEN AND TAKE NOTES.
AND, UM, WE DO NOT RESPOND AT PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE ARE LISTENING AND WE DO HEAR YOU.
BUT WHAT AGAIN, MY QUESTION, HOW DO I FIND OUT THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION? IF WE NEED, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED DOWN WITH THE WATER FLOW.
NOW, IF THE TOWN IS SAYING, IT'S NOT THE WATERFALL WE NEED DRAIN, LOOK, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED DRAIN.
THEY DRAIN THE COMMUNITY OR THE TOWN.
HOW DO I FIND THAT ANSWER? IF YOU'LL GET IN CONTACT WITH OUR TOWN MANAGER OR OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND IT'S ON THE SITE.
AND WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE IN JONES OR IS THAT, THAT, THAT IS AN UNTOLD THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT.
I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT AND AS I PUT IN MY COMMENTS ON JUNE 30TH, THE TOWN THEMSELVES CAME OUT AND INSPECTED THE DRAIN IT'S AREA THAT'S AFFECTED BY THIS MELODIC.
I KNOW THAT THE TOWN THEMSELVES, THAT DOES NOTHING, EVERYTHING'S CLEAR AND THERE'S NO OBSTRUCTION.
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HAVE FIVE OR SIX DAYS LATER.WE GOT FLOODED, SIR, WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT FOR A DISCUSSION AND WE JUST WRITE DOWN YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL GET WITH STAFF AND OUR TOWN MANAGER, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING IN.
UM, IF YOU HAVE A SKYLAR SKYLAR SCHOLAR, OKAY.
HOW ARE YOU? I KNOW HE CAN'T HEAR ME.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN.
UM, WHILE I LIVE AT, UH, UH, MY NAME IS SCHOLAR, ANDREW KENNEDY, AND I LIVE AT TWO 50 OLD BRIDGE DRIVE IN BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO MY MAIN CONCERN IS, UH, IS WITH THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS IN THE FARM AT BOOK WALTER.
UM, FIRST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE, WE'VE ALL BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH IMC, WHICH IS OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
UM, AND THEY SEEM TO BE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ACCORDING TO THE, UH, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS LAID FORTH BY THE ENGINEERS.
UM, SO, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WATER COMING IN AND JUST LIKE WAS WITH THIS PAST STORM.
UH, THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, UM, OLD BRIDGE DRIVE AND MILL POND ROAD IS IT'S STILL FLOODING REALLY BAD.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE, I MEAN, IT WAS A LOT OF RAIN WITH THE STORM, BUT IT WASN'T ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAD FOR INSTANCE, DURING MATTHEW.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE, WE'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2015, SO WE WENT THROUGH MATTHEW, OUR HOUSE WAS FLOODED AND WE HAD TO REBUILD EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT JUST, I THINK THERE'S, THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER ISSUE OTHER THAN US, THE NEIGHBORHOOD KEEPING OUR DRAINS CLEAR AND, AND IN CLEANING OUT OUR COMMONS.
UM, I THINK THERE'S, UH, DEFINITELY AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN THE, UM, THE ROAD IS FLOODED, YOU CAN SEE PLAINLY THAT THERE'S WATER COMING IN FROM THE WETLANDS AREAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT'S, AND THE THING IS, IS THAT THE WATER DOESN'T RECEIVE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE TWO DAYS AFTER THE STORM AND THERE'S STILL STANDING WATER.
I MEAN, IT WAS FLOWING THROUGH THE DRAINING SYSTEM MODE.
IT'S STILL COMING IN SO FAST THAT IT'S NOT ABLE TO, TO, TO, TO RECEDE THAT, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
SO WE'RE CENTER TWO DAYS AFTER RANCH STORM.
WE STILL HAD STANDING WATER IN THE STREET.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS MY MAIN CONCERN AND I JUST HOPE THAT THERE IS, UH, SOME WAY THAT THE TOWN CAN HELP, UH, AT LEAST POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET THE PROBLEM FIXED.
I DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING HERE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION AS WE WERE BACK WHEN MATTHEW CAME THROUGH.
MA'AM I GOT SEAN THERE'S A SHAWN FLEMING ON TOMMY.
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, I LIVE OUT OF THE AREA, UH, 1, 1, 4 SHAY STREET IN SOMERVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT I'VE BEEN, UM, BROUGHT INTO, UH, LOOK AT, UM, THE DRAINAGE, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE, THE COMMUNITY OF FARM AS A, UM, AS A, UH, CONTRACTOR SLASH ADVISOR.
UM, SO I DO HAVE SOME INSIGHT, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE SITE, UH, PRIOR TO, UH, THE RAIN EVENT OF LAST THURSDAY, AS WELL AS, UM, THE MORNING OF, UH, LAST THURSDAY AND THE, UM, AND THE, AND THE, HOW THE FLOW WAS.
UM, AND THE QUESTION THAT I HAD, UH, PRIMARILY WAS A, UM, A PROACTIVE ONE WAS TO SEE IF, UM, THERE WAS ANY MEANS OF INCREASING, UM, CAPACITY FOR, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THE FLOODING SEEMS TO BE PREDOMINANTLY, UM, ADJOINED ON THE WETLAND SIDE, UM, AT THAT LOCATION.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS MAYBE SOME MEANS
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OF, UH, INCREASING THE CAPACITY, IF THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S LOOKED AT.AND, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE WATERWAYS, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME FOR THIS FORUM.
UM, AND, UM, LISTENING TO EVERYONE'S COMMENTS.
IT, YOU PUT IT ON AND WE'LL SEE WHO IT IS.
AND YOU STILL HAVE CARRIE ON THE ROOM.
DO YOU WANT TO GET HER OUT OF THE ROOM? GO TO THE VERY TOP BOP, ONE SIX.
CAN YOU HEAR US? AND WHO IS THIS? AND WHO IS THIS? THIS IS KAREN.
SO WE HAVE GARY GRAHAM, MARY AND PURDUE, NANCY CHARTER, CASEY LYNN, LEONARD, AND ME HASH.
AND WE DON'T HAVE FILMS. DO YOU WANT TO JUST SEE, LET'S SEE WHO HE FELL HER IS.
YOU CAN LET CARRY ITEMS OUT OF THE ROOM, TOMMY.
UM, IS THIS A MR OR MS. FOWLER? UH, OH, OKAY.
WELL WE'LL TELL THEM, GET THEM OUT.
YOU WANT TO TRY THIS KID? HOW ABOUT KAM, DON? WE'RE JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF YOU'RE PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE DON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR NAME ON THE WAITING ROOM.
I SPOKE, OH GOSH, YOU'RE IN THERE TWICE.
FOR THE TWO MEETING TO OPEN UP.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO MISS ANYBODY, BUT THANKS.
WELL, WE GET RESULTS, LIKE A COMMENT AFTER ALL THIS, UM, PROBABLY IN MAYOR, UH, STAY TUNED.
THERE IS A SECTION WHERE WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AND IF ANYONE HAS A COMMENT, THEY'LL MAKE IT THEN.
SO WE, IF, IF GARY MARYANN NANCY, CASEY LEONARD, OR ME HASH OR WATCHING, YOU NEED TO GET IN THE ROOM WITH KIM CHAPMAN TO READ YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO IT CAN BE PART OF THE RECORD.
SO, UM, PLEASE EMAIL US IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US.
[VIII. Communications from Mayor and Council]
COMMUNICATION FROM COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL, ANYBODY, ANYBODY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OTHER BRIAN, I KNOW YOU WERE OUT THERE IN 2017 TO RESPOND TO THESE FOLKS.AND I WAS OUT THERE THAT NIGHT AND THEY DEFINITELY HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM, AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO ESCALATE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AGAIN WITH YOU ON THIS.
I KNOW YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION.
DID YOU GIVE IT TO THEM IN WRITING AT THE TIME? I CAN'T REMEMBER.
UM, BACK TO 2017, WHAT WE DID, I KNOW THOMAS AND HUTTON HAS GIVEN THEM A RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WE ATTENDED THE MEETING IN 2019 AS WELL.
UM, I WAS OUT THERE TODAY TO INSPECT IT.
UM, WHAT MANY OF THEM SAID IS CORRECT? IT'S THE WETLAND THAT'S FLOWING INTO THE ROAD.
THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS WORKING FINE.
UM, WE HAVE TO GET OUT THERE WHEN IT'S A LITTLE DRYER TO SEE IF THE PIPE UNDER ROAD IS ADEQUATELY SIZE AND MAY BE BLOCKED.
BUT, UM, BY DEFINITION, IT'S A DISTINCT SYSTEM THAT'S FLOODED EITHER PERMANENTLY OR SEASONALLY.
UM, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR WHEN WE HAVE MATRIX AT SIX INCHES OF RAIN ON LESS THAN PROBABLY EIGHT HOURS, 12 HOURS, UM, THAT'S A A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.
THESE SYSTEMS ARE ONLY DESIGNED FOR 25 YEAR EVENTS.
SO, UM, WITHOUT GOING OUT, I WORKED, I WENT OUT THERE TODAY.
THE WILDLAND IS STILL FULL OF WATER.
AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE HOA AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND ENGINEER.
I KNOW, I REMEMBER IN 17, THAT WAS, IT'S NOT THE ONLY AREA THAT FLOODED CAUSE EVERYWHERE FLOODED WITH MATTHEW.
UM, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE MIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS, BUT WE NEED TO ALERT THE COUNTY WHO HAS THE LAND, THAT FRONTS ALL BRIDGE ROAD THAT HAS FUTURE USE FOR RECREATION.
AND MAYBE THERE'S A POINT TO, YOU KNOW, HALT THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF TAKING DOWN ANY MORE TREES IN FRONT OF FARM IS GOING TO HELP YEARS DOWN
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THE ROAD.AND PERHAPS HERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE.
I TOTALLY PUT THAT KNOWLEDGE WITH YOU OR WORK WITH HEATHER WHEN WE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ANOTHER THING I WROTE DOWN, I JUST HOPE THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS DO GET THE SAME MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE GIVING OUT.
DO WE GO THROUGH THEIR MANAGEMENT COMPANY ONLY? IS THERE SOME WAY I KNOW IF, IF A RESIDENT EMAILS KIM, UH, OR MYSELF OR BILL BAUER, ANYONE IN WATERSHED, WE RESPOND TO THEM DIRECTLY.
AND THEN WE ALSO EITHER COPY OR FORWARD THAT ONTO THE, UH, ASSOCIATION AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF IT.
GIVEN ALL THESE COMMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH EVERYBODY AND GET ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE THEY KEEP CALLING IT THE TOWN'S WETLANDS.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY LAND OWNED BY THE HOA, THE TOWN WETLAND PORTION, UM, TO THE NORTH OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE FARM.
THERE'S NO STANDING WATER IN IT.
SO THE BLOCKAGE HAS HAPPENED SOMEWHERE DOWNSTREAM.
IT'S SOMETHING WHERE IN EACH COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WETLANDS AND THAT, YEAH.
AND THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED.
UH, THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH A SERIES OF PONDS.
SO I GOT A FEELING THEY'RE NOT MAYBE GETTING THE SAME MESSAGE YOU'RE GIVEN, BUT YOU'RE GIVING IT TO PEOPLE WHO EMAIL YOU.
AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT MAYBE IT IS A MEETING TO REALLY JUST DISCUSS IT AND SHOW THEM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WANT TO MAKE IT RIGHT AS WELL.
THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IT ALL ON THE TOWN, SO, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GOING OUT THERE.
ANYONE ELSE ON ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
[IX.1. Discussion Regarding the American Rescue Plan Act Update - Chris Forster, Director of Finance and Administration]
MOVING ON TO WORKSHOP CHRIS FOERSTER BACK TO DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD.CHRIS IS HERE TO DISCUSS THE, UM, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND GIVE US AN UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, CONGRESS PASSED AND THE PRESIDENT SIGNED THE AMERICAN RECIPE PLAN ACT ALSO KNOWN AS ARPA.
UH, IT WAS A, A SWEEPING BILL OFFERED, UH, UH, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SUPPORT ACROSS THE ECONOMY.
IT HAD $350 BILLION FOR, UM, STATE AND LOCAL AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS TO RESPOND TO THE COVID 19, UH, EMERGENCY AND THE EFFECTS ON THE ECONOMY.
SO WITHIN THAT 350 BILLION, THERE WAS ABOUT 65.1 BILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
AND THAT IS SPLIT A BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO GROUPS.
UH, THERE'S A GROUP FOR NON ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES OR, UM, UH, NON-METRO COMMUNITIES, UH, ABOUT 19.5 BILLION AS WELL AS IN TYLER ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES, WHICH ARE THE METRO COMMUNITIES OF 45.6 BILLION.
SO THESE METRO COMMUNITIES RECEIVE THEIR DISTRIBUTION BASED ON A MODIFIED CDBG FORMULA, WHICH FACTORS IN POPULATION, UH, EXTENT OF POVERTY, HOUSING, OVERCROWDING, AND AGE OF HOUSING, AND THEN COMMUNITIES THAT FALL WITHIN THE NON ENTITLEMENT CATEGORY RECEIVED THEIR ALLOCATIONS BASED SOLELY ON, UH, POPULATION, UH, THE 2019 ESTIMATE POPULATION.
NOW THIS DISTINCTION IS IMPORTANT WITH A ROVER IN A, IN A MINUTE.
SO THE, UH, ALLOCATIONS FOR OUR AREA ARE AS FOLLOWS.
THE STATE, UH, IS RECEIVING $2.5 BILLION.
UH, THE COUNTY BUFORD COUNTY IS RECEIVING 37.3 MILLION BLUFFED INNS.
FINAL ALLOCATION IS 1.9, 8 MILLION.
UH, HILTON HEAD IS 5.2 MILLION.
NOW BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD ARE CONSIDERED, UM, ENTITLEMENT OR METRO COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN D FOR CITIES RECEIVING 6.69 MILLION AND HARVILLE IS 3.6 MILLION.
AND THEY FALL INTO THE NON ENTITLEMENT OR NON METRO, UH, CATEGORY.
SO AS YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER, UH, WHEN CONGRESS PASSED THE CONGRESSIONAL STAFF, PUT OUT ESTIMATES FOR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WHAT THEY EXPECTED, THEY WOULD GET.
THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE THAT WAS RELEASED FOR BLUFFTON WAS $9.55 MILLION.
AS YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE ENDED UP WITH ONLY 1.9, 8 MILLION.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? SO ORIGINALLY, UH, WE WERE CLASSIFIED, UH, BY CONGRESSIONAL STAFF AS A NON ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY.
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT, UM, AS PART PART OF OUR HUD CLASSIFICATION, UH, WE DECLINED THE ENTITLEMENT CLASSIFICATION IN ORDER TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MORE CDBG POTENTIAL, UH, GRANTS.
UM, NOW WHEN THIS BILL WAS PASSED, IT PUT THE LEGAL AUTHORITY OF EXECUTING IT INTO THE HANDS OF THE US TREASURY AND US TREASURY INTERPRETED THE LAW DIFFERENTLY THAN CRUSH CONGRESSIONAL STAFF.
AND THEY SAID THAT IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE AS A, UH, ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY, YOU WOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU, UM, WHETHER YOU WAVED YOUR HOOD CLASSIFICATION OR NOT.
SO THAT PUT US INTO THAT OTHER BUCKET OF DOLLARS.
AND THE OTHER MEANS OF, UH, ALLOCATING THOSE DOLLARS.
SO RATHER THAN BEING A BIG FISH IN A SMALL POND, WE ARE A SMALL FISH IN A VERY LARGE POND.
AND SO OUR ALLOCATION WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY NOW ALSO OF NOTE WHEN THE, UM, FINAL
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ESTIMATES CAME OUT, UM, THE, UH, THE AMOUNT THAT THE NON ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES WERE GETTING WAS ABOUT 33% MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE.SO WHEN YOU FACTOR THAT IN TO WHAT OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS, WE COULD HAVE REASONABLY ASSUMED THAT TO GET ABOUT $12.73 MILLION.
UH, IF WE HAD REMAINED IN THAT OTHER CLASSIFICATION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A NET LOSS, A POTENTIAL LOSS OF $10.8 MILLION.
SO WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? SO INITIALLY WE CONTACTED THE US TREASURY AND THEY ARE NOT BUDGING ON THIS INTERPRETATION.
UM, AND THEY HAVE NO INDICATIONS OF CHANGING THEIR EXPECTATION.
UM, SO THE OTHER OPTION IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND OTHER STATES THAT ARE AFFECTED SIMILAR TO US HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEIR STATE GOVERNMENTS AND, UH, REQUESTED THAT THEY BE MADE WHOLE FROM THEIR STATE POT OF ARBOR DOLLARS.
SO WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR DELEGATION TO MAKE THE SAME REQUEST AND JUST FREE INFORMATION.
THERE'S ABOUT SIX OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT GOT CAUGHT UP IN THIS, UH, CHANGING CLASSIFICATION, UH, THAT WERE IMPACTED RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT THOSE THE MAIN SIX MAIN COMMUNITIES.
SO HOW DO WE GET THE FUNDS? SO, UH, IF YOU ARE A ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY, UH, YOU CAN GET THE DOLLARS DIRECTLY FROM THE US TREASURY.
YOU CAN DRAW DOWN DIRECTLY FROM THE US TREASURY.
NOW, IF YOU ARE NOT ENTITLEMENT, YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR FUNDS FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
THE TREASURY SENDS THE DOLLARS TO THE STATE AND THEY'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO EVENTUALLY PASS IT ON TO THE COMMUNITIES.
BUT SO ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE CLASSIFICATION THAT WE GOT IS WE CAN JUST, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON A STATE.
WE CAN CLAIM IT FROM THE US TREASURY, WHICH WE HAVE, WE'VE RECEIVED 60% OF OUR ALLOCATION BY LAW, WHICH IS $991,000.
AND THAT IS IN A SEPARATE FUND AND ACCOUNT.
UH, CURRENTLY WITH THE, AT THE TOP YELLOW, 50% WILL BE ALLOCATED IN 12 MONTHS IN A YEAR, JUNE, 2022.
AND THESE CAN BE USED FOR ELIGIBLE COSTS, INCURRED OR OBLIGATED BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, AND MUST BE FULLY SPENT OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.
NOW THE, UH, OVERALL OBJECTIVES, UH, IN THE LAW ARE SUPPORT COVID 19 RESPONSE OR PACED, REPLACE, LOST PUBLIC SECTOR, REVENUE, SUPPORT, MEDIA, ECONOMIC STABILIZATION, AND ADDRESS SYSTEMIC PUBLIC HEALTH ECONOMIC CHALLENGES.
NOW THESE OBJECTIVES WERE BROKEN DOWN TO A SEVEN MAIN ALLOWABLE USES THIS INCLUDES REPLACEMENT, PUBLIC SECTOR, REVENUE LOSS SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE, WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE TO ADDRESS NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS, EQUITY FOCUSED SERVICES, AND PREMIUM PAY FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS.
THE INELIGIBLE USES WHAT WE CANNOT USE THESE DOLLARS FOR IS TO OFFSET TAX DECREASES.
SO WE CAN'T DECREASE YOUR TAXES AND THEN USE THESE DOLLARS TO SUPPLEMENT IT.
UM, WE CANNOT PUT THE MONEY INTO OUR PENSION FUND AND, UH, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC SET OF SEVEN CATEGORIES AND OTHER ONES TO THOSE IN A MINUTE, THE FIRST AND ARGUABLY ONE OF THE, UH, MOST IMPORTANT, UH, WAYS WE CAN USE THOSE TO REPLACE OUR REVENUE LOSS.
UM, AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE, UH, ONCE YOU CLAIM A PORTION OF AARP ALLOCATION AS REVENUE LOSS, THERE ARE A LOT RESTRICTIONS TO HOW YOU USE THOSE DOLLARS.
DO YOU HAVE MORE LEEWAY IN HOW YOU USE THOSE DOLLARS? SO THE US TREASURY PUT OUT A SPECIFIC FORMULA ON DETERMINING WHAT YOUR REVENUE LOSS IS, AND THEY USE THE BASE OF YOUR FYI 19.
AND, UH, SO THE ALLOWABLE REVENUE SOURCES FOR FY 19 FOR US IS $27.9 MILLION.
NOW THEY SAID THAT COMPARED TO ACTUALS FOR
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS PRIOR TO FYI 19, ON AVERAGE, OUR REVENUE GREW 9.1%.
SO WE COULD REASONABLY EXPECT IT BY LAW TO A RECEIVED REVENUE OF $31.8 MILLION IN
OUR ACTUAL REVENUE IN
SO WE CAN CLAIM A REVENUE LOSS OF $3.7 MILLION IN TOTAL.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS MORE THAN 1.9, $8 MILLION.
SO ESSENTIALLY ALL THE DOLLARS THAT WE CAN GET DIRECTLY FROM THE TREASURY WE CAN CLAIM AS REVENUE LOSS.
UM, AND THEN IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ANY RP DOLLARS FROM THE STATE, UM, WE COULD ORIGINALLY MAKE THE CASE TO CLAIM ADDITIONAL FUNDS UP TO THAT 3.7 MILLION.
SO WHAT ARE THE RULES AROUND THIS USE OF REVEREND LAW STARS? THEY ESSENTIALLY SAY FOR THE PROVISION OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES AND THAT'S VERY BROAD.
UM, AND THEN THEY PUT SOME SPECIFICS, BUT THEY SAY IT'S NOT LIMITED TO SO INCLUDES, BUT NOT LIMITED TO MAINTENANCE, INFRASTRUCTURE, MODERNIZATION, SEPARATE SECURITY, HEALTH SERVICES, EV ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION
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AND SAFETY SERVICES.AND THEN IT ALSO SAYS IT CANNOT BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS, AND THAT IS PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.
SO WE COULDN'T PAY P AND I ON OUR, UH, POWER FINANCINGS OR, OR OUR BOND THAT WOULD NOT BE, WE CANNOT USE IT FOR ANY LEGAL SEDIMENTS, AND WE CANNOT PLOP IT IN ANY OF OUR RESERVES.
SO THE NEXT ALLOWABLE, UH, CATEGORY IS A SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE.
SO THIS IS VERY, THIS CATEGORY IS PRETTY MUCH SIMILAR TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS, UH, AID THAT WAS APPROVED BY CONGRESS AND PASSED, UH, IT'S MITIGATION PREVENTION OF COVID, UM, MEDICAL EXPENSES, INCLUDING LONG-TERM NEEDS FROM COVID-19 SYMPTOMS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY STAFF, THE PAYROLL AND BENEFITS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY PERSONNEL, UM, DEVOTED TO MITIGATING THE COVID-19 RESPONSE.
SO THIS IS ALL VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS RELEASED BEFORE.
UH, THERE'S A STILL ELIGIBLE WITH OUR PER DOLLARS.
UM, THE IMPORTANT QUALIFIERS THEY PUT ON HERE IS THAT IT HAS TO BE PROVIDED FOR THEIR EFFORTS, WERE DEVOTED TO MITIGATING PUBLIC RESPONSE AND ELIGIBLE USES MUST BE IN RESPONSE TO THE DISEASE ITSELF OR HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES OF ECONOMIC DISRUPTIONS RESULTING FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.
UH, NEXT WE'LL GO INTO INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES STORMWATER BY FEDERAL DEFINITION.
UH, SO ALL THESE, UH, TYPES OF USES UNDER THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD QUALIFY AS A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, CONTROLLED NON-POINT SOURCES OF POLLUTION, UH, IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCY FROM A WATER EVENTS, UH, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION OF WATER BALIS FROM POLLUTION, DRINKING WATER SYSTEM, DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS, TREATMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, STORMWATER TREATMENT, WHATEVER YOU USE IN CYBERSECURITY.
SO ALL OF THAT FALLS WITH UNDER THIS CATEGORY, AND THIS IS ONE OF TWO THAT DON'T, UH, ARE NOT RELATED TO, UH, COVID IMPACTS IT'S JUST INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE SECOND BEING BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH, I HAD TOMMY TO REVIEW, UH, ALL THE RULES AND CRITERIA FOR THIS, AND WE WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE.
UM, THIS IS MORE DIRECTED AT RURAL AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DOWNLOAD SPEEDS THERE.
UM, DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO US.
WE CAN'T REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE, UH, ECONOMIC NEGATIVE ECONOMIC ANIKA.
THIS IS A VERY BROAD CATEGORY.
UM, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS, UM, PRETTY SUCCINCTLY, UM, SO WHEN ASSESSING WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING QUALIFIES UNDER THIS CATEGORY, YOU HAVE TO ASSESS WHETHER AND THE, TO WHICH THERE HAS BEEN AN ECONOMIC HARM SUCH AS LOSS OF EARNINGS OR REVENUE RESULTED FROM THE COVID 19 PUBLIC HEALTH NUMBERS AND WEATHER, AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE USE WOULD RESPOND OR ADDRESS THIS ARM.
AND DOING, AS YOU CONSIDER, WHETHER THIS HARM WAS CAUSED OR MADE WORSE BY THE COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.
SO THAT INITIAL CLAIM MAKES IT SOUND VERY, VERY SPECIFIC TO, UH, COVID IMPACTS, BUT THEN IT GOES ON AND THERE'S A CAVEAT TO THAT.
IT SAYS IN ASSESSING WHETHER A HOUSEHOLD MEETS THIS DEFINITION, YOU MAY PRESUME A HOUSEHOLD THAT EXPERIENCED UNEMPLOYMENT OR INCREASED HOUSING AND FOOD SECURITY INSECURITY, OR AS LOWER BUTTER INCOME, LESS THAN 80% AMI, YOU MAY ASSUME THEY EXPERIENCED NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS FROM THE PANDEMIC.
SO BASICALLY IF YOU FALL IN THOSE CATEGORIES, YOU ARE MATH, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR AID THAT ARE OUTLINED ON THESE ELDERS USES, AND WHAT ARE THE ELIGIBLE USES, UH, ASSISTANCE TO UNEMPLOYED WORKERS, ASSISTANCE TO HOUSEHOLDS.
AND THIS CAN COME IN THE FORM OF FOOD ASSISTANCE, RENT, MORTGAGE UTILITIES, SINCE IT'S, UH, BURIALS, HOME REPAIR WEATHERIZATION, UH, OR OTHER NEEDS, AND THERE SHOULD BE ASSISTANCE AND JOB TRAINING, UM, IMPROVE THE EFFICACY OF ECONOMIC RELIEF PROGRAMS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS, UH, ANY OF THE LEGWORK TO SET UP THESE PROGRAMS. YOU CAN USE THESE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THAT, UM, AND SMALL BUSINESS AND NONPROFIT ASSISTANCE.
SO THIS IS TO WEATHER, UH, CLOSURE OR MITIGATE FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS RESULT OF A COVID-19.
THIS COULD BE IN THE FORM OF LOANS OR GRANTS TO COMPENSATE FOR DECLINES IN REVENUE, UM, OR OTHER, UH, PREVENTION TACTICS TO, TO COVID-19 ALSO REHIRING GOVERNMENTAL STAFF.
UM, WE DID NOT GO THROUGH ANY, UH, MASS LAYOFFS BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT IF WE DID, YOU COULD REHIRE STAFF FOR THAT AND THEN, UH, AID TO IMPACTED INDUSTRIES.
UM, YEAH, THIS IS REALLY TARGETED TOWARDS TOURISM TRAVEL AND HOSPITALITY.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, EQUITY FOCUSED SERVICES.
SO THIS IS INVESTMENTS IN HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, FIRST HOMELESSNESS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, A HOUSING VOUCHERS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL COUNSELING ALSO, UH, CAN BE USED FOR EDUCATIONAL DISPARITIES.
AND, UH, AND AS I GO THROUGH THESE, A LOT OF THESE ARE PRETTY BROAD.
HE GOES INTO HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION, KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, THIS IS TARGETED TO ACROSS THE NATION.
SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE THOSE WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW.
SO IT WOULD BE ETHICAL FOR THEM, MIGHT NOT BE FOR US, UM, AND PROMOTING HEALTHY CHILDHOOD ENVIRONMENTS PREMIUM PAY.
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SO YOU CAN ALSO OFFER PREMIUM PAY TO ELIGIBLE WORKERS, PERFORMING ESSENTIAL WORK DURING COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.SO BASICALLY WORKERS THAT MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS OPERATIONS OF ESSENTIAL, CRITICAL SECTORS, PROTECTING HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS CAN BE AN AMOUNT UP TO A $13 PER HOUR.
IN ADDITION TO WAGES, UH, OTHERWISE RECEIVED CANNOT EXCEED 25,000 PER ELIGIBLE WORKER.
THIS IS AN OPTION DOES THAT MAN MENTOR I USE IS AN OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, UH, SUCH WORKERS INCLUDE HEALTHCARE, UH, FOOD PRODUCTION, JANITORS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CHILDCARE, SOCIAL HUMAN SERVICES, UM, AND ANY OTHER WORKERS THAT HAVE REGULAR INTERACTIONS OR PHYSICAL HANDLING OF ITEMS THAT WERE ALSO HANDLED BY OTHERS.
SO REALLY TONIGHT, IT'S, UH, NOT TELLING YOU OR MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO USE, BUT INFORMING YOU OF THE WAYS IN WHICH CAN BE USED, WHAT THE DOLLARS AMOUNT MOUNTS ARE, UM, AND TO GET YOUR INPUT ON KIND OF WHERE WE SHOULD, WHERE STAFF SHOULD START FOCUSING ON DEVELOPING PROGRAMS FOR THE USE OF THE, THESE DOLLARS.
UM, AS YOU RECALL, THE 1.9, 8 MILLION WE CAN CAPTURE AS LOST REVENUE, WHICH OPENS UP THE USE.
SO I HAVE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE IT FOR.
UM, AND THEN ALSO IF WE GET DOLLARS FROM THE STATE, A POT OF MONEY, UM, SINCE THAT IS A, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE TREATED AS A SUB-RECIPIENT.
SO WE'D STILL BE, UH, HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ARPA REGULATIONS AS OUTLINED IN MY PREVIOUS SLIDES.
BUT THESE ARE ALL VARIOUS IDEAS OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN USE IT LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT AND THOUGHTS ON MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS OUR SUGGESTIONS.
THIS IS A WORKSHOP ITEM, BUT, UM, JUST TO GIVE CHRIS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE THINKING, AND STEVEN CAN GET WITH ALL OF US ON NEXT STEPS, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE UP THE WHOLE NIGHT, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING TO GET YOUR HEAD AROUND, ASK NOW, OR WE CAN MEET WITH OUR TOWN MANAGER INDIVIDUALLY.
AND DO YOU WANT TO THAT SO I CAN COME BACK, UH, ANYTHING ON THIS SIDE, ANY THOUGHTS, FRIENDS, UM, EVEN IN, UH, CHRIS, I SPOKE TO YOU BOTH ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, 13, 9 85.
CAN YOU SPEAK, COULD ORDER BIRDING GUIDING THE AMERICANS CAT, NOT FAMILIAR WITH AN ADDITIONAL EXECUTIVE ORDER? UM, WAS IT A PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER OR A STATE PRESIDENTS PRESIDENTIAL.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK, LOOK THAT UP.
I SENT IT TO YOU, BUT I'LL SEND IT TO YOU AGAIN.
TALK TO YOU ABOUT OVER BUDGET CARDS.
WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, ALLOWABLE USES, UH, FOR AT-RISK COMMUNITIES, UM, AND THE SORT OF COMMUNITIES, UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.
AND, UM, AND THAT, AND ADDRESS THAT.
AND IF I CAN FIND IT YEAH, RIGHT HERE.
SO AS FAR AS DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES CAN BE, UH, ALLOWABLE FOR A LOT OF THESE BENEFITS, IT'S FAIRLY BROAD.
UM, AND WHAT, WHAT CAN YOU USE? AND I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S A LANGUAGE AND THIS MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE REFERRING TO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A PUSH FOR COMMUNITIES TO FOCUS ON UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AS THEY DEVELOP THESE PROGRAMS. UM, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THESE DEFINITIONS RIGHT HERE, OPEN IT UP PRETTY BROADLY TO, TO ASSIST MANY PEOPLE IN NEED.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT SET UP A WORKSHOP, HOW TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE PROFESSIONS COME TO
UM, THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT PART OF THIS AMERICAN CARE, YOU CAN LET ALL OF COUNCIL KNOW.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IF, IF WHOEVER GETS THAT COULD, COULD PASS IT ALONG TO ALL OF COUNCIL AND MAYBE JUST A RESPONSE TO IT.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST MOVE DOWN.
JUST, I'D JUST AN UPDATE FOR Y'ALL.
I TALKED TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE BILL HERB KURTZMAN TODAY, AND HE HAS OWNED THIS COMMITTEE TOO.
HE ASKED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE SEVEN OR EIGHT TOWNS IN OUR STATE WHO DIDN'T GET FULLY FUNDED.
UM, SO HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW THAT, AND HE IS REALLY PUSHING FOR SOME CRITERIA, EVEN MAYBE GOING BEYOND THE FUNDING.
LIKE YOU HAD SAID, CHRIS, THAT IT COULD BE FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
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IF WE CAN HELP HIM, UM, WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HELP HE NEEDS, BUT HE KNOWS THAT WE WERE VERY UNDERFUNDED ON THIS.YEAH, CHRIS, I JUST GOT A COUPLE JUST FOR CLARENCE.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN, AND, AND DO WE HAVE TO DECLARE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY ONCE WE GET IT, ARE WE OBLIGATED TO TELL THEM, SO TO SPEAK UP FRONT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR NOW WE HAVE TO REPORT, UH, ON EXPENDITURES AFTER THE FACT, BUT THEY HAVE TO FALL IN LINE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ACT.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE PLAN AND, AND, UH, DESIGNATE DOLLARS.
UM, BUT YES, THERE'S A REPORTING AFTER THE FACT AF AFTER THE FACT MEANING 26.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S WELL, THERE'S THE FIRST REPORT THAT'S DUE.
I THINK IT'S THE END OF AUGUST.
UM, ANYTHING WE'VE SPENT THROUGH AUGUST, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A REPORT ON, UM, AND THEN FOR US GIVEN OUR SIZE, I BELIEVE IT'S AN ANNUAL REPORT.
IF YOU'RE A LARGER COMMUNITIES, HAVE TO DO A QUARTERLY, LARGE CITIES HAVE TO DO IT EVEN MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT FOR US, THERE ARE THINGS, THE ANNUAL REPORT NEXT AUGUST.
I MEAN, THIS AUGUST COMING, BUT IF WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY, ALL YOU DO IS SPENT, YOU JUST IT'S EASY.
BUT IT'S NO BIG RUSHES WHEN I'M SAYING.
UM, AND ALSO, CAN WE, IT, CAN WE USE SOME FOR FIVE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THESE QUALIFICATIONS OR DOES IT HAVE TO ALL BE USED IN ONE FOR ANY OF THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE UNDER THE LAW? OKAY.
MY LAST QUESTION IS THE STATE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE STATE HEART, YOU KNOW, UM, WILL BE IN OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU WERE, YOU MENTIONED THAT IF WE GET SOME, MAYBE ANY IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF FISH WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE, OR IS THERE NO WAY TO TELL HER? WELL, WE, WE GOT AN IDEA.
I MEAN, TH THEY'RE GONNA MEET, UM, IN SEPTEMBER, UH, ON THIS, UH, DETERMINES HOW THIS GETS, UH, ALLOCATE OR BROKEN UP.
UM, AND EVERY STATE'S DIFFERENT.
SOME STATES THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS RETAINED, UH, AUTHORITY TO, UH, ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS.
OUR GOVERNOR HAS PUSHED IT TO THE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE OR A SEPARATE COMMITTEE, OTHER WAYS, AND MEANS COMMITTEE, WHICH OUR REPRESENTATIVE SITS ON.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH HIM ABOUT OUR NEEDS AND POTENTIAL NEEDS, UH, OF THOSE DOLLARS.
AND IN OUR SITUATION SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF A LOSS OF EXPECTED REVENUE.
HOW COME HILTON HEADS IS SO MUCH MORE THAN OURS.
SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THE AVERAGE INCOME AND ALL THAT, AND HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, I MEAN, THEY'RE A BIGGER, A BIGGER COMMUNITY THAN US THAT FALL WITHIN THAT OTHER POT, UH, OF ALLOCATED DOLLARS THAT ARE METRO.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMPETING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, COLUMBIA'S IN NEW YORK CITIES AND OUT OF THAT POT OF DOLLARS.
SO, UM, AND AGAIN, THAT, THAT FORMULA IS BASED ON THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
POPULATION, EXTENSIVE POVERTY, HOUSING OVERCROWDING IN AGE OF HOUSING, WE'RE A MUCH NEWER COMMUNITY.
UM, WE'RE NOT AS BIG AS A LOT OF THE OTHER METRO COMMUNITIES.
SO IT ALL IMPACTS US IN THE NOT AS POPULATED AS THE OTHER COMMUNITY.
WELL THAT FALL WITHIN THE METRO CATEGORY.
TO COME, UM, JUST TO, UM, FOLLOW UP ON LARRY'S QUESTION.
UM, I KNOW, UM, UH, ORGANIZATION I WAS WITH, WE HELPED SOME BUSINESSES IN TERMS OF SECURING GRANTS AND, UM, WHAT COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO WHY WE DIDN'T GET AS MUCH FUNDING.
WE, UM, DON'T HAVE THE SAME DESIGNATION OF THE HILTON ED AND LIKE BUFORD DOES IN TERMS OF THE M E I D L GRANTS.
THEY HAD A CERTAIN DESIGNATION FOR, UM, RESIDENTS OR AREAS THAT WERE IN CONSIDERED IMPOVERISHED.
NOWHERE IN BLUFFTON HAD A DESIGNATION, BUT POCKETS OF HILTON HEAD AT IT, JASPER COUNTY HAD IT BE AT IT.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ODD, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, I I'M SURE THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO IT, UM, TO WHAT COUNCILMAN HAMILTON SAID.
I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ENSURE THAT WE DO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADHERING TO THAT A PORTION OF THE AMERICANS CARE ACT THAT WE AREN'T LEAVING OUT UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IF THE DESIGNATION WAS THERE FOR THEM.
UM, JUST MY SUGGESTION ON ONE OF THE AREAS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FUNDING GO TOWARDS.
UM, I KNOW I SAW IT ABOUT IS ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES AND I KNOW EMPLOYEES DID GET A CERTAIN RAISE WITH OUR NEW BUDGET.
UM, BUT IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE HOURLY STAFF, I KNOW, UM, IT WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY IN GOOD FAITH WITH US TO, UM, ALLOCATE SOME OF THAT FUNDING IF WE COULD TOWARDS THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE DEFINITELY HERE WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAD TIME OFF AND DAYS OFF.
I'M SPEAKING MORE SPECIFICALLY TO OUR
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PUBLIC WORKS GUYS.UM, ESPECIALLY THEY DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, OF WORK.
AARON, I DEFINITELY, UH, DON'T WANT THAT TO GO UNNOTICED.
AND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT GESTURE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND IF WE COULD DESIGNATE SOME OF THAT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT ALSO WHO, UH, WERE CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL, UM, BUT DIDN'T GET WHAT SOME PLACES GOT FOR HAZARD PAY.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD PUSH ONES, NOT ALL OF IT, BUT IF WE COULD PUSH SOME OF THE FUNDING, UM, TO THOSE ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES, UM, I'LL FINISH UP, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, AFTER YEARS WE UNDERSTAND LIKE, OKAY, UM, I LIKE WHERE YOU HIGHLIGHTED AND BOLDED THE AREAS.
I THINK IT'S A PERFECT TIME TO, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET.
1.9 IS NOT GOING TO GO VERY FAR, BUT ABSOLUTELY MY, MY TOPS ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, I DO LIKE THAT ESSENTIAL WORKERS.
I WAS ALSO TELLING STEVEN ABOUT HANCEVILLE GEORGIA.
UH, SOME OF THEIR MONEY IS GOING BACK TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME BUSINESSES SUFFER GREATLY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES WITH STAFF TIME OF SETTING IT UP, CAUSE IT'D HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF APPLICATION PROCESS.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE THAT NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS.
IS THAT WHERE THAT, THAT WOULD FALL, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, IT'D BE THE ONE-TIME.
WE REALLY CAN FOCUS ON OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND HELP, UM, WITH SOME IN SOME WAY TO KEEP, TO KEEP THEM CONTRIBUTING.
SO WE DON'T LOSE OUR DESIGNATION.
UM, AND STORMWATER, I MEAN, I THINK THOSE ARE KIND OF LOOK AT OUR COMP PLAN AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.
AND SO WITH THAT WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN, SO, YES.
UM, SO BEFORE WE USED THE MONEY FOR ANY REASON, WOULD YOU LOOK FOR, UH, UH, CLEARANCE THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A CERTAIN WAY IT WOULD BE APPROVED A CERTAIN WAY, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR STAFF TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF SUGGESTIONS ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOUR TOP FIVE OR TOP 10, UH, YOU ALL SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND, UH, SO I'D LOVE TO SEE YOUR, YOUR TOP NUMBERS AND THEN GIVE US, IT MIGHT GIVE US MORE ENLIGHTENMENT ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO ALSO.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM MY, AND BY THE WAY, THOSE WERE GREAT SUGGESTIONS, UH, FROM EVERYBODY UP HERE.
UM, AND ALSO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND THAT REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND, UH, WHICH IS TIED INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SIDE.
AND YOU, YOU TALKED LIKE THAT REVENUE STREAM WAS GOOD FOR TWO YEARS CORRECTLY.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS OUT OUR HTF WAS PROJECTED TO GO, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AND ALSO THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED BY THE END OF 2024.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVEN'T SOLD THE 20, 26.
THIS IS ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT.
DO YOU HAVE TO, CAUSE I HAD WRITTEN IN THERE, I'M SURE OUR CIP LIST WILL HAVE A NEW COLUMN THAT MIGHT, IF SOMETHING FALLS IN THERE, IT'LL SAY ARPA MONEY, BUT SAY WE HAVE OUR LIST OF 20 PROJECTS.
UM, WHEN WE SUBMIT THOSE BY 2024 IS THEY'RE SET IN STONE.
THAT MEANT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT, BUT IF WE HAVE OUR LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO LET THE POWERS THAT BE, NO, I'M JUST THINKING THIS COUNCIL CHANGES EVERYBODY CHANGES.
IS THAT A LIST THAT WILL CONTINUE UNTIL IT'S COMPLETED? YEAH.
I MEAN, CFP, UM, IS A MULTI-YEAR PLAN.
UM, IT IS APPROVED ANNUALLY THOUGH.
UH, ONE SINGLE YEAR FISCAL YEAR BUDGETS.
UM, I WOULD, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU, YOU, IF YOU OBLIGATE DOLLARS FOR THE OPERA PROGRAM, UM, AND IT GETS PAST THE, THE, UH, DECEMBER 31ST, 20, 24 DEADLINE, UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE RESTRICTIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT, OR HOW YOU CHANGE THE, HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE PROGRAMMED.
UM, BUT I DUNNO TRYING TO KEEP IT ASIDE TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T RIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE? UM, MR. HAMILTON HAD ASKED ABOUT A WORKSHOP.
DO YOU WANT TO GET WITH STEVEN AND THINK ABOUT THE TIMING AND WHEN IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO KNOW NOW, BUT SHOULD WE PUSH IT AND WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR FROM DAVID ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE WE'RE GOING TO GET.
SO IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT, A TIMELINE ON THE STATE THAT WE COULD LOOK FORWARD TO OR NOT SEPTEMBER.
THEY WOULD WORKSHOP AFTER WE SEE WHAT THAT IS.
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YEAH.I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH THAT.
[X.1. Consideration of Ordinances Related to Property Commonly Referred to as Saint Gregory the Great consisting of approximately 61.093 Acres of Land Located at 323 Fording Island Road and Identified as Beaufort County Tax Map Nos. R600 022 000 0125 0000 and R600 022 000 1120 0000 – Public Hearing and Final Reading – Heather Colin, Director of Growth Management]
A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING ON, UM, AN ITEM AND I DOUBLE CHECKED WITH TERRY.WE CAN DO THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL AT ONCE FOR ALL THE ITEMS. UM, DID YOU FIND OUT IF THE FINAL READING WAS INDIVIDUAL FOR, FOR ALL THE ITEMS, YOU'D ALL FIND YOU CAN DO ALL OF THEM.
UM, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO PROPERTY.
COMMONLY REFERRED TO A SAINT GREGORY, THE GREAT CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 6,193 ACRES LOCATED AT 3 23 14 ALLEN ROAD.
AND YOU HAVE THE TEXT MAP NUMBERS.
UM, LET'S DO THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FIRST ON, DO I NEED TO READ OUT ABCB ENF? YES.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO AMEND THE FUTURE ANNEXATION AREA AND CHANGE SAID PROPERTIES.
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM CIVIC INSTITUTIONAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY, COMMERCIAL CONSIDERATION OF A HUNDRED PERCENT ANNEXATION REQUESTS CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK.
WALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR A NEW LAND USE TRACK CONSIDERATION OF A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK, WALDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK.
WALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLAN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS. AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, KIM, LET ME GO THROUGH WITH THOSE SECOND COMP SECOND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF THE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ITEMS, THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SIX ITEMS UNDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT THERE.
NOW WE'RE ON A FINAL READING FOR THE SAME ITEMS. I MEAN, YOU'LL LET IN WHOEVER THAT'S ALL YOU GOT REALLY FAST, 30 MINUTES.
CAN YOU TELL US WHO IS WHAT WE KNOW IF EVERYBODY WHO'S COMING OUT OF THEIR ROOM, PLEASE EITHER TURN, TURN THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU AND WE CAN HEAR US.
SO MAYBE MUTE UNTIL YOU'RE CALLED UPON AND THINK ABOUT TAKING IT OUT OF, OFF OF FACEBOOK ON THAT DEVICE, RIGHT? TOMMY AND YOU MUTE PEOPLE, TOMMY.
OKAY, WELL YOU CAN START AND HE CAN START PULLING THEM UP HEATHER, BECAUSE NO, ONE'S GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU THOUGH PRESENTATION OR ON THE SCREEN, ALTHOUGH NOT NECESSARILY, UM, THAT OKAY.
TOMMY, CAN YOU DO BOTH OR DO YOU WANT US TO WAIT? I CAN START TALKING TO YOU.
SO THE SIX ITEMS THAT I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING RIGHT NOW ARE ALL RELATED TO THE INITIAL REQUEST FROM, UM, ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT, UM, RELATED TO THEIR REQUEST TO ANNEX INTO THE TOWN LIMITS, BE PART OF THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS THAT I WILL, UM, GO THROUGH.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE STOP ME, OR I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END.
WE ALSO HAVE ON THE, UM, ON THE CALL, WE HAVE WALTER NESTER, WHO IS THE AGENT, UM, FOR ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT AS WELL AS SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CHURCH AND, UM, THE DIOCESE ATTORNEY AS WELL.
SO I KNOW THEY CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS IF I CANNOT, UM, JUST TO START OUT INITIALLY, THIS CAME OFFICIALLY TO US, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, ALTHOUGH I KEEP SAYING THREE YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT WHEN WE REALLY STARTED GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE APPLICATION,
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UM, MOVING FORWARD AND THEIR INITIAL REQUEST, AND I'LL LET THEM EXPAND ON IT.UM, IF YOU SHOULD REQUEST IS TO A LOT OF THE MEMBERS THOUGHT THEY WERE PART OF THE MUNICIPAL LIMITS OF THE TOWN.
THEY HAVE THAT 2 9, 9 1, UH, ZIP CODE AND WANTED TO FIND OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE OFFICIALLY PART OF BLUFFTON AND MOVE FORWARD.
HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION.
SO IT'S TO THE NORTH OF 40 ISLAND ROAD, 2 78.
SO IT IS CONTIGUOUS ACROSS THE STREET, UM, NEAR BUCK, WALTER PARKWAY, UH, RIGHT THERE.
AND THERE IS THE CHURCH THERE AND THE FIRE STATION THAT'S OUTSIDE.
UM, JUST OVER THERE, UH, TO THE RIGHT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SCREEN, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER PARCEL THAT YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THAT LITTLE RED SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE THAT'S BUFORD, DESPERATE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY.
AND THEY ARE ALSO AGREEABLE TO THE APPLICATION.
THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE A PUMP STATION.
SO THIS IS, UM, ALL STARTED WITH A 100% REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION.
AGAIN, THIS STARTED, UM, THEY APPLIED INITIALLY IN JULY OF NINTH OF 2019, UH, FOR THAT ANNEXATION REQUEST.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S, UH, RESULTED IN THE CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS.
MOVING IS SHE'LL APPLICATION WAS ACTUALLY TO BE ZONED GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT.
ANYTIME AN APPLICATION IS PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN.
WE ALSO HAVE TO ASSIGN IT A ZONING DESIGNATION.
SO YOU, AT LEAST AT THE VERY MINIMUM HAVE TO, IF YOU'RE REQUESTING ANNEXATION, WHAT'S YOUR REQUEST, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE REGULATED, MOVE FORWARD AGAIN, THEIR INITIAL REQUEST WAS FOR THAT GENERAL MIXED USE AND ALSO PART OF THAT HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT HAS SINCE EVOLVED, UM, GET TO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
AND WE ALSO GOING THROUGH IT, YOU'LL SEE, THERE'S A MAP THAT DOES SHOW THE FUTURE ANNEXATION AREA.
THAT DOTTED LINE IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE PARCELS, UH, TO THE NORTH OF 2 78, READING THE TEXT AND THE VERBIAGE THAT GOES WITH IT.
IT, WE BELIEVE THE INTENT IN THE INTERPRETATION IS THAT THAT'S THAT WHOLE PARCEL AREA.
SO JUST ALIGN IT WITH THE PARCELS.
BUT WHAT WE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY DO IS GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT PICTURE AND THE MAP CLEARLY FOLLOWS THAT ANNEXATION BOUNDARY.
SO JUST IF YOU'RE, IF THEY'RE PROCEEDING TO MOVE FORWARD, AND IF THAT IS AGREEABLE AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL, MAKE SURE ALL OF THAT MATCHES, UM, PER THE REQUEST.
AND AGAIN, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION ALSO REFLECTS THE CHANGES MOVING FORWARD AGAIN, THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
UM, AT FIRST READING WITH THAT GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT.
AND AT THE TIME IT, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FORWARD THAT TO NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.
THAT WAS A FORGONE AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT WAS AT THEIR AUGUST MEETING AS A RESULT OF THAT DISCUSSION.
IT WAS SUGGESTED RATHER THAN GENERAL MIXED USE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF BECOMING PART OF THE BUCK, WALTER PUD.
SO THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT RESULTED IN SOME ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS.
UH, BUT THAT DID MOVE FORWARD.
UH, AGAIN, HENCE THE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS YOU'LL SEE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, BUT WITH THAT, WHEN IT WOULD BE BECOME PART OF BUCK WALTER PUD, THE BUCK WALTER PUD HAS LAND USE TRACKS SO NEEDED TO ASSIGN IT A LAND USE TRACT.
AND WHAT WAS DECIDED BY THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME WAS TO CREATE A NEW LAND USE TRACK SPECIFIC TO THIS PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THESE ARE THE USE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THAT NEW LAND USE TRACT.
SO YOU'LL SEE COMMUNITY RECREATION, INSTITUTIONAL CIVIC, THAT CHURCH, UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, UM, AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THERE IS NO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
HOWEVER, I'M JUST MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH THIS REQUEST.
ALSO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UM, SPECIFYING SOME LIMITATIONS TO CONVENIENCE STORES WITH THE FUELING STATIONS, UM, NO MORE THAN 20, AND IT DOES RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS, RV PARKS.
WHAT WE DID AFTER THAT FIRST READING, UM, FROM COUNCIL WAS REALLY WENT THROUGH FOR YOUR DIRECTION AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEE WHERE CAN STAND THIS GOOD TO GO THROUGH? NO, NO.
I APOLOGIZE IF I HAVE MOVED A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE IT'S WHEN POINT IT STOPS, BUT WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WE WERE DIRECTED TO DO AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY LOOK AT THAT LAND USE THE LAND USES THAT WERE PERMITTED OR PROPOSED TO BE PERMITTED, AND THEY ASSOCIATED DENSITY MAKE THIS COME WITH A VERY REALISTIC REQUEST, UM, ONCE IT MOVES FORWARD.
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TABLE THAT GOES THROUGH, WHAT'S ALLOWED IN BUFORD COUNTY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UM, TRIED TO COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES, BUT, UM, TRIED TO GET THAT IN THE ATTACHED TABLES HERE.SO WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THEN THE BUCK WALTER, UM, SAINT GREGORY, THE GREAT LAND USE TRACK AND MOVING FORWARD.
SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES YOU'LL SEE HERE WHERE THOSE PEAS ARE PERMITTED, UM, AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSED AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THAT, YOU'LL SEE JUST A MIX OF USES.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD FOCUS ON THAT.
UH, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL WAS STRUCK FROM THE PERMITTED USES AND JUST MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AT THIS TIME.
AGAIN, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO I APOLOGIZE I'M GOING QUICKLY, BUT I DO HAVE SOMEBODY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE DID HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP WHERE THEY DISCUSSED IT AND WENT THROUGH SOME COMMENTS, UM, TO INTEGRATE IN THEIR APPLICATION.
AND THEN IT HAD BEEN SINCE REVISED.
SO THE INITIAL REQUEST WAS, UM, WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.
AND WHAT MOVED FORWARD WAS A LITTLE BIT OVER 10 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL THAT'S THAT CORNER PIECE, UH, CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION OF 40 ALLEN ROAD AND THEN A REDUCTION FROM THE INITIAL REQUEST, WHICH WAS 446 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
CAN YOU STOP THERE FOR A MINUTE? YEAH.
THE HUNT OF 446 DWELLING UNITS REDUCED TO 150, WAS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ISSUED, IS THAT AMOUNT FOR A REASON? UH, NO, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT AND MOVE FORWARD AND SAID, LET'S REDUCE THIS BE REALISTIC.
ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO DO A HUNDRED, 446 UNITS? UM, SO IT WAS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, CORRECT.
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AN APPLES TO APPLES.
RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, EXACTLY.
SO SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY, OR WHAT YOU DID TONIGHT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING PLANNING PERMISSION WAS, IS ALSO REQUIRED TO, UH, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY DID, THAT WAS BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2020, AND THEY DID VOTE TO RECOMMEND, UM, FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, UM, AND AGAIN, THE APPROVAL OF THOSE CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS THAT ANNEXATION PETITION CONFERENCE OF PLAN AMENDMENT, LIKE I DISCUSSED THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, UM, THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK, WALTER PUD, THAT ST.
GREGORY THE GREAT TRACT AND THOSE LAND USES THERE AS WELL AS THE ZONING ITSELF FOR THAT PUD AMENDMENT.
UM, THEY, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT THAT JUST DUE TO CHANGE OF TRAFFIC PATTERNS BASED ON COVID AND THE PANDEMIC IT'S NOT FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW TO CONDUCT A VERY TRUE TRAFFIC COUNT AT THIS TIME.
SO THE CONDITION THAT WAS MADE WAS THAT THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.
SO AGAIN, TO GET A TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN IS, IF THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WHEN SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSION AND THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UM, MAY NOT BE VERY ACCURATE.
HOWEVER, IT WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT, PERMITS AND PLANS.
SO BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY MOVE ANY DIRT OR MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT ASSESSMENT IS MADE, AND THAT SPECIFIC FOR THAT, UM, THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THAT CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO, UM, WHEN I WAS LAST HERE BEFORE YOU FOR THESE APPLICATIONS WAS DECEMBER 8TH, 2020.
AND AT THAT TIME, THE VOTE WAS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE LISTED THERE.
AND, UM, THE USE IS THERE, LIKE I SAID, WE TALKED ABOUT REALLY GETTING THAT LIST, UH, REALLY FINALIZED AND IF IT COULD REDUCED REDUCE IT, UM, DON'T INCLUDE USES THAT HAD NO INTENTION OR ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT IT WAS REMAINED AT THAT A LITTLE BIT OVER 10 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL, BUT A REDUCTION FROM NOT ONLY THE 4 46 TO ONE 50, BUT NOW TODAY IT IS BEFORE YOU WITH 110 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
WHAT WE WILL DO FURTHER, UM, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ONCE SHOULD THESE SIX APPLICATIONS MOVE FORWARD.
THE FIRST ITEM UNDER YOUR FORMAL BUSINESS IS THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
SO THE APPLICATE, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME, SO I CAN CONTINUE MY PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT THAT INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
TARA, I HAD ASKED TERRY ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS OF HOWEVER THIS GOES, AND HE ACTUALLY GAVE ME HOW TO READ A MOTION WITH HOWEVER IT IS, BUT TO INCLUDE ONE AND TWO.
SO SHOULD SHE DO ONE AND TWO AS
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WELL TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER? CROSS TWO OUT DIDN'T I, YOU PUT ITEMS ONE IN TO A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM X 11.DOES, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU THINK IT'S SO NUMBER TWO? OH YEAH.
SO SHOULDN'T SHE DO ONE, SO WE GET THE FULL PICTURE AND KEEP IT STREAMLINED.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I HAVE IT APPEAR, BUT HAPPY TO ADJUST.
SO THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN AND WHAT YOU SAW, EVEN WITH THAT FIRST READING, THEY HAD A VERY, UM, DETAILED, I WILL SAY A CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
THAT CONCEPT PLAN IS WHAT IN TURN IS THEIR INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
SO WHERE THOSE BUBBLES ARE, WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL, WHERE THE COMMERCIAL IS.
UM, AND THAT IN GENERAL, AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT INITIAL MASTER PLAN, SOME DEVELOPMENTS WAIT YEARS TILL THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO BEFORE THEY COME WITH AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
AND THEY JUST, UH, DECIDED TO JUST MOVE FORWARD AT THE SAME TIME, IF THAT MOVES FORWARD, THEN THEY WOULD DO THE DETAILED ENGINEERING, CIVIL TRAFFIC, STORMWATER, ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FINAL, WHICH GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE DID REVIEW THAT INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
AND THAT ALSO COMES WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, UM, TO YOU THIS EVENING.
AND THAT WAS DONE AT THEIR APRIL 28TH MEETING OF THIS YEAR.
JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND.
I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, THERE'S THAT SCHOOL CAMPUS THERE THEY'RE RESERVING THE 50 ACRE PORTION FOR THE POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT, UH, CHURCH AND SCHOOL CAMPUS.
UM, AS WELL AS THAT PUMP STATION PROPERTY I DISCUSSED.
AND THEN THE OUT PARCELS FOR THOSE PERMITTED USES THAT WERE ALL ON THAT TABLE, UM, WHICH ARE YET TO BE SPECIFICALLY DETERMINED AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS THAT CAMPUS MASTER PLAN THAT I DISCUSSED.
WHAT HAS ESSENTIALLY BEEN, UM, AND IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, I KNOW KEVIN I HEARD IS, AND HAS ALL OF THAT, BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MASTER PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
SO THAT GIVES YOU THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA RIGHT HERE IN THAT YELLOW AREA.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT CAMPUS, UM, IN ST.
GREGORY THE GREAT CHURCH IT'S.
SO I CAN ADDRESS ONE CONCERN, THE COUNTY HEAD, OR I GUESS THE ONLY CONCERN IS I'M NOT HAVING ANY CURB CUTS OFF A 2 78, AND THIS SHOWS THAT THERE ARE NONE CORRECT.
AND JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND.
THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE IN BUFORD COUNTY.
UM, IT'S THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE STONING DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS THOSE USES WE COMPARED ON THOSE TABLES AT COUNTY ZONING MAP.
UM, AND PLEASE SLOW ME DOWN IF I NEED TO, BUT ALL INFORMATION THAT WE DO REVIEW AND MAKE SURE IS INCLUDED JUST THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, HOW THEY'RE ZONED AGAIN, MAKING SURE THERE'S, UM, THEY'RE CONTIGUOUS TO MUNICIPAL PROPERTY AND JUST PROPERTY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A CONTEXT OF WHERE, WHERE THEY ARE AND WHO THEY'RE, UM, LOCATED NEAR FORCED PERSPECTIVES.
AND THERE, YOU CAN SEE IN THAT LIGHT BROWN AREA, THAT IS ALL, UM, THAT BUCK WALTER PUD AREA, THEY ARE CONTIGUOUS AS WE'VE STATED HERE.
UM, AGAIN, JUST THAT FIRST BULLET THERE JUST EXPANDS ON JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MAP, THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, FUTURE ANNEXATION BOUNDARY JUST CLEARLY MATCHES SO THAT EVERYTHING IS ALIGNED AGAIN, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT SHOWS WHAT I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING HERE.
THAT ORANGE IS, UM, RIGHT HERE, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, THAT RED LINE JUST IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT CUTS THOSE PARCELS OFF ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT THIS PURPLE LINE MATCHES THE ACTUAL PARCEL BOUNDARIES.
AND THIS JUST EXPANDS ON THAT, UM, CIVIC, INSTITUTIONAL CLASSIFICATION FOR THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ALIGNED THAT IN, UM, VISUAL FORMAT, GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS WITHIN THAT, UM, AREA HERE.
AND YOU'LL SEE IT JUST KIND OF, IT CUTS IT OFF AT THAT RED DOTTED LINE TO JUST MAKING SURE EVERYTHING PLACE.
UH, ONE THING WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO AS PART OF AN ANNEXATION REQUEST IS TO DO A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
SO, UM, HERE'S THE ANALYSIS, UH, ON THE SCREEN HERE.
SO HERE I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO ZOOM IN, BUT THIS INCLUDES THAT, UM, PROPOSED CONCEPT MASTER PLAN, ONE OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT HAS TO BE AMENDMENT AMENDED, YOU'LL SEE UP HERE, THIS LITTLE KIND OF PURPLE AREA THAT IS NOT ON THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN.
SO AGAIN, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD,
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WE NEED TO MATCH THE MAP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE PDD AMENDMENTS, AND HERE SHOWS WHERE THAT NEW TRACT WOULD BE.SO THIS AREA HERE IS WHAT, AGAIN, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD BE ADDED TO THAT CONCEPT PLAN IS HERE'S JUST A SCHEDULE OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'VE BEEN, HOW WE GOT TO TODAY'S, UM, TODAY'S MEETING JUST PROCEDURALLY TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, HERE'S A LIST OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, AGAIN, IN THE ORDER IN WHICH, UM, HOW THOSE STEPS NEED TO TAKE PLACE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ZOOM IN ON ANY SLIDES OR, UM, BRING UP ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU HAVE.
AND LIKE I SAID, I KNEW DO YOU KNOW THAT WALTER NESTER IS ON THE CALL AS WELL? IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS I'LL LOOK THE SUD FIRST, ANYTHING I GOT A COUPLE, UM, PANNER, WHEN YOU, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT I THINK I JUST SAW THE 10 POINT SOMETHING ACRES OF COMMERCIAL WILL BE SOLD.
I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE SO THAT IT'S AN OPTION YES.
BY THE CHURCH OR WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THE TAXES.
SO THE 110 UNITS ARE BUILT ON AS PART OF THE CHURCH.
THEN THE TAXES WOULD BE WAY DIFFERENT THAN NORM.
OR HOW DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE SHOWING US THE TAXABLE RIGHT THERE, IT COULD BE, WELL, WHAT ARE THEIR PLANS FOR THE 110 UNITS? PARDON ME? I MEAN, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY RENTALS, SAY YES, SIR.
I THINK THAT DURING THE PRESENTATIONS, FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, AND SOME NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, WE BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE UNITS WOULD BE RETIRED, CLERGY HOUSING.
UM, I KNOW THE APPLICANTS ON, SO, UM, WE CAN HAVE WALTER OR ELAINE, UM, ONE OF THEIR CHURCH FOLKS CONFIRM THAT, BUT THROWING THE DISCUSSIONS I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH SOME RETIRED CLERGY, A PART OF THAT IS KIND OF CAMPUS.
SO HERE'S A, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, LARRY, BUT IF THEY WERE TO DO IT AT A MARKET VALUE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SELL THE LAND TO A DEVELOPER TO DO IT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT YOUR TAXES.
SO, SO THE TAXES ON THIS WOULD BE WAY, WAY LESS THAN A NORMAL, 110 UNITS.
WALTER PUD THAT'S WITH RETAINED BY ST.
GREGORY JAMES WAS SOLD TO A DEVELOPER THIRD PARTY, ONLY A THIRD PARTY.
THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT WOULD BE, UM, MARKET OR MARKET RATE TAXES.
UM, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, RIGHT? JUST A SECOND.
NO, IT HAPPENED WITH THE HISTORIC SYMPOSIUM.
IF YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND ASK IT WHILE HE'S HERE.
TOMMY UNPLUGGED IT UP, MAYBE STAND OVER THERE, HEADER AND YOUR LEG OUT.
NOW YOU CAN STAY RIGHT THERE BECAUSE I HADN'T GOT AN ANSWER ON IT, RELIES ON ME AND IS NOT WORKING.
WAS THAT RELAYS? THE WORKING, OH, YOU GOT TO PUSH.
AND THEN LET GO, WHENEVER YOU'RE DONE TALKING VERY CENSUS, THIS, UM, ANNEXATION HAS NOT BEEN DONE AS WE SPEAK, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE DONE TONIGHT OR WHATEVER, AS FAR AS THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING REC, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THAT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO BY WHAT'S ON OUR BUTTON NOW, CORRECT.
THEIR, THEIR APPLICATION WAS PENDING, UM, FROM JULY 10TH, 2019, UM, IT WAS THEN SUPPLEMENTED ON FEBRUARY 21ST, 2020.
UM, WHEN THEY HAD ALL THE, YOU KNOW, IT STARTED
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OUT AS A VERY SIMPLE ANNEXATION, BUT THEN THE ANNEXATION LEADS TO CHANGING THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK, MAP, CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES, CHANGING THE COMP PLAN, CHANGING THE ZONING, ESTABLISHING ZONING, AND, UM, HAVING THEM BECOME PART OF THE BUCK, WALTER PUD.SO ALL OF THESE, UM, A THROUGH F ON YOUR AGENDA UNDER ITEM 10 ARE ALL RESULTS OF THE, OF THE SIMPLE ANNEXATION PETITION.
UM, ALL THOSE PETITIONS WERE IN OR APPLICATIONS THAT WERE IN FEBRUARY 21ST, 2020, THE PERCENTAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, PERCENTAGE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED ON JULY 14TH, 2020 AFTER THESE APPLICATIONS IN, I BELIEVE WE'D HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME, UM, IMPOSING THEM.
UM, OUR ORDINANCE BACK THEN OUR ORDINANCE FROM JULY OF 2020, DOES TALK ABOUT AMENDING, UM, THESE, UM, I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME, UM, APPLICATION THAT WAS PENDING PRIOR TO US PASSING THAT ORDINANCE.
THAT'S AN ANNEXATION, NOT IT'S A LITTLE, UH, SEE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A NORMAL PENDING APPLICATION.
IT WAS NORMALLY YOU DON'T GET AN APPLICATION UNLESS IT'S PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY WITHIN THE TOWN.
THIS ISSUE WAS, THIS ISSUE WAS INTRODUCED TO ME YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
AND, UM, THE RESEARCH, THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE ON IT SO FAR, UM, I BELIEVE MAKES IT PROBLEMATIC, BUT I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITE ANSWER FOR YOU COUNSELING.
AND CAN YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ANNEXATION APPLICATION IN PETITION VERSUS, UM, SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY IN THE TOWN WHO MADE THE LAW SO FAR AS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE TODAY DOES NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THOSE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS.
I DON'T HAVE A FIRM ANSWER FOR YOU.
REALLY? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO? OKAY.
WELL, EITHER, UM, AND TERRY, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR CLARITY.
UM, UM, THEY'RE OFF, BUT ANYHOW, UM, I'M GLAD WALTER'S ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE NEED, UM, WE NEED HIM TO, UH, SPEAK TO US ON THIS ISSUE.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR 20% AFFORDABLE HOUSING WALTER FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT OR PUD WITHIN THE TOWN.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO OUR REGION IN BLUFFTON HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POSTER CHILD AND TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.
UM, WE REALIZED THAT YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER 40 UNITS THAT YOU DIDN'T BILL.
UM, YOU WERE ALLOWED 150 AND YOU CHOSE TO DO 110.
SO, SO IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR, UM, FOR US TO PROCEED THE NIGHT WITHOUT GOING BACK, UM, TO PLANNING COMMISSION OR, UH, GOING BACK TO ANOTHER READING, IF WE CAN, UM, GET YOU TO AGREE OR YOUR CLIENT, YOUR CLIENT, TO AGREE, TO GIVE IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT TO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO RIGHT NOW.
CAN YOU HEAR US, WALTER? I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE CLOSER OR NOT.
OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT.
HEY, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, UH, MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL.
WE APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK, UH, HEATHER SAID IT EARLIER, BUT, UH, MS. LANE FOWLER, WHO WAS COUNSEL TO THE DIOCESE OF CHARLESTON IS ON THE PHONE AS WELL AS, UH, MR. JOE LOMBARDO, WHO WAS AT SAINT GREGORY, THE GREAT COMMITTEE CHAIR AND MR. CHRIS TROTT, WHO IS THE, UH, MANAGER FOR THE PARISH AT ST.
THE GREAT, UM, WE DO APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED APPLICATION AND ALSO APPRECIATE, UM, HOW IT GOT COMPLICATED.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL APPRECIATED THIS LONG PROCESS BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS, THAT THE CHURCH, WE STARTED OUT THE PROCESS JUST WANTING TO BE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE, TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEIR REQUESTS, NOT ONLY OF NOW COUNCIL
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AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, BUT ALSO STAFF.IT'S BEEN A VERY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, ONE, WHICH WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
AND MR. HAMILTON, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR, TO YOUR QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR BECAUSE THE ANSWER, THE ANSWER IS YES.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT 150 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND AS HEATHER MENTIONED, IT'S ONLY MULTI-FAMILY.
AND, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, THAT MULTI-FAMILY USE IS, IS, UH, IS CHOSEN BY THE THIRD PARTY, UM, THEN HAVING THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY AND MAKING THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY SUBJECT ONLY ARE QUALIFIED THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY THAT IT MAY ONLY BE USED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IS FINE WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WILLING, WILLING TO DO.
I WANT TO, I WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THOUGH THAT, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THE NOT 20% OF A HUNDRED AND OF 150 IT'S 110 IS AVAILABLE.
AND THEN IF WE, IF WE GO BEYOND THE 110 IS ALL REQUIRED TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THAT THAT IS THAT'S.
I HOPE, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING CLOSE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WE APPRECIATE THE DISTINCTION IN THE, IN THE, IN THE TOWNS, UH, ORDINANCE AND, AND, UH, AFFORDABLE.
WE APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE AND, UM, HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND THAT IS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
FAN ANYTHING I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT? I, UM, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, WALTER, UM, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR PERSEVERANCE.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN AN ARDUOUS PROCESS, NEEDLESS TO SAY, OVER TWO YEARS IN THE MAKING.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU DID SIT WITH COUNSEL AND TRY TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY ALLOWED VERSUS WHAT THE TOWN WOULD ALLOW.
AND, UH, SO I'LL BE VERY DILIGENT WITH THAT.
UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN TELL THAT EVERYBODY SITTING HERE IS STILL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKFORCE PROBLEM, AND EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LANGUAGE IN A WAY, BECAUSE IF WE, IF WE APPROVE THE SECOND READING AT YOUR REQUEST OF 110, AND YOU WERE WILLING TO ADD A PERCENTAGE OR A NUMBER OF UNITS ABOVE THAT, HOW WOULD WE HAVE A GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD EVER TAKE PLACE? IN OTHER WORDS, A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WILL COME IN AND MAYBE BUILD, BUILD 110 AND THEN NOT WANT TO BUILD THE REMAINING PART.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD QUALIFY THAT TO PROTECT IT.
AND TERRY KIND OF THINKING THROUGH IT TOO, WALTER, WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO A LOT WITH GOOD ANSWER, PERIOD, DID YOU, YOU WERE BUSY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GATHER IN MY COMMENT, BUT, UM, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WOULD COME IN AND THEY WOULD BUILD MAYBE THE 110, RIGHT.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE CROWN, RIGHT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY GO, WELL, YOU HAVE IT ON PAPER THAT WE'LL GIVE YOU X AMOUNT FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT THEY DON'T BUILD IT.
SO HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT ISSUE? THE LIMIT WE NEED TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHAT WERE WILLING TO GET ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH WALTER IS OPEN OPEN-MINDED TO, BUT THEN HOW DO WE PROTECT OUR RIGHT TO SEE TO IT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ASCERTAIN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WELL, IT'S STANDING THERE INDICATED.
UM, WELL EVEN 20% OF THE 110 WOULD BE 22, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
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RIGHT.SO IF, IF THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE US THAT 20%, WHICH IS 22 OR WHATEVER NUMBER, HOW DO WE GUARANTEE THAT? YEAH, I GOT IT.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE, LET'S GO BACK TO THE 150 AND THEN BUY A RIGHT TO BUILD 150 AND 40.
THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR 150, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOW INDICATING THE ONLY ONE, 110.
AND THEY SAY WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY UNITS OVER 110 BEING SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED FOR A FOUR BLOCK.
UM, I DON'T HEAR THE APPLICANTS SAYING THEY DID THE 20%.
WHY UNTIL THE 110 HUNDRED, 150 LET'S LET'S LET'S, LET'S ALLOW THEM TO HAVE 150 RIGHT.
AND THEY KEEP THEIR UNDER TEN, A HUNDRED AND TEN, A HUNDRED FIFTY.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD A 30 AFTER THE BILL.
YOU KNOW, HE AGREED TO THE 40 COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN WOOD'S QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ASSURE THAT THEY BUILD OVER 110? AND WE GET SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS BUILT OR, OR SOMEHOW IN THE LAND, THERE'S AN ALLOCATION TO THE TOWN.
LIKE PEOPLE DO EVERY DAY WHERE THEY CARVE OUT A PORTION FOR THE TOWN.
IF WE CAN'T GUARANTEE IT ANY OTHER WAY, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME WAY TO GUARANTEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE UNITS.
I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE I HEAR FROM THEM TO SEE HOW THEY, WHAT THEY FEEL BEFORE WE ALTER.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? SOME THAT YOUR HANDS RAISED AND MRS. FRAZIER, MS. FRAZIER HAS A QUESTION TOO.
DO YOU WANT TO HEAR HERS FIRST? OUR ANSWER THAT, UM, WELL LET ME MAYBE, MAYBE I CAN HEAR MS. FRAZIER'S QUESTION AND THEN HOPEFULLY HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE ANSWER FOR FALL.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IN, UM, AN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT COUNCILMEN, UM, WHAT IN HAMILTON ARE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION OFTEN ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, THOSE WHO REALLY ARE NEED OF IT, HEAR THAT TERM AND THINKING APPLIES TO THEM.
AND WHEN I SAY THOSE A NEED SPEAKING, PARTICULARLY TO HOURLY WORKERS WHO SERVICE THIS AREA AND, YOU KNOW, HOSPITALITY IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, AND THE REALITY IS WHATEVER UNITS YOU WOULD PROVIDE, UM, ON THE ST GREGORY CAMPUS STILL WOULDN'T APPLY TO THEM.
IT WOULD BE TO, THOSE ARE AT 80 TO 110 OR WHATEVER AM I, UM, I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF, IF THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN BUILDING THE UNITS OR INCLUDING IT INTO WHAT THEIR CURRENT PLAN IS, IF THEY WOULD EITHER GIVE US THE DENSITY OR WHATEVER, THE FUNDS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO THOSE UNITS OR US TO REALLY DO HOUSING, THAT WOULD ADDRESS THOSE AND OURS STRANGLED THAT PICKER DID.
Y'ALL HEAR MS. FRAZIER, DID YOU HEAR WALTER? WE HAVE A LOT OF SCRATCHING GOING ON ON THIS SYSTEM.
DID YOU HEAR HER QUESTION? I'M SORRY, MAYOR, COULD YOU MAYBE REPEAT IT? BECAUSE I DID ONLY HEAR PARTS OF IT IS LIKE SOMEBODY'S BUILDING, UM, THE HOUSING NOBODY'S BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE, ON THE SCREEN COUNCIL CHAMBERS SAID IT, THE SYNOPSIS WAS, UM, IF YOU, MAYBE THERE'S A FEE IN LIEU OF RIGHT.
INSTEAD OF HAVING YOU BUILD THOSE UNITS ON YOUR, IN YOUR CURRENT PLAN, UM, US TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE FUNDS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THAT TO USE IT ON, UM, CURRENT TOWN ON PROPERTY TO CREATE HOUSING NOW WITH SERVICE, THE HOURLY WORKERS WHO ORDINARILY WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN WHAT THE MARKINGS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CURRENTLY IS.
THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, MS. FRAZIER, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT.
AND IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IN RESPONSE, UM, TO THE, TO THE, TO THE EARLIER QUESTION, THE APPLICATION AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
AND THE AMENDMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, EXCUSE ME, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT USED ON THE PROPERTY MAY ONLY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE TOWN'S LAND USE BANK.
AND SO THE TOWN COULD USE THOSE, THOSE UNITS ON ANOTHER PARCEL OF LAND.
SO AGAIN, WHATEVER LAND USE RIGHTS ARE GRANTED BY COUNCIL FOR THE ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT LAND USE TRACK.
IF THEY'RE NOT USED, THEY CAN BE, THEY CAN ONLY BE TRANSFERRED,
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NOT FOR A FEE, BUT ONLY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.SO THE TOWN COULD, AS I BELIEVE MS. FRAZIER WAS SUGGESTING USE THOSE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
IF THEY'RE NOT USED ON THE SAINT GREGORY, THE GREAT TREK THEY COULD BE USED ON OTHER TOWN ON, ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES, WHEN THAT, WHEN WE JUMPED FROM JUST GENERAL MIXED USE COMMERCIAL INTO THE BUCK, WALTER PUD WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BUCK WALTER PUD AND WHAT YOU NEEDED TO RESERVE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, AS YOU WERE ANNEXES.
AND THAT W THAT PROMPTED THE ORIGINAL ASS FOR 446 UNITS WAS JUST REALLY MORE OF A MISUNDERSTANDING ON MY BEHALF AND ON OUR BEHALF ABOUT WHAT YOU NEEDED TO RESERVE FOR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY RUN WITH THE LAND WITH THE HELP OF STAFF.
WE REALIZED THAT THAT, UM, 100, THE 400 NUMBER WOULDN'T FIT AND WORKING WITH TH WITH, UH, THE WORKSHOP FROM TOWN COUNCIL, WE RECOGNIZED THAT PROBABLY A BETTER NUMBER WAS 110.
AND THAT'S WHY WE S WE UNILATERALLY AGREED TO GO DOWN 110.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE, UH, THE MASTER PLAN.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE 10 ACRES, THREE OF THOSE OTHER 10 ACRES, THREE OF THE PARCELS FRONT, UM, US HIGHWAY 2 78 IS UNUSED.
IT WILL BE UNLIKELY THAT A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME IN AND DO ANYTHING, BUT A HOTEL MULTI-FAMILY ALONG US 2 78 IS PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DENSITY AND TRYING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE AND WHAT WE CAN USE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR RETIRED CLERGY BEHIND THE FIRE STATION, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN INAPPROPRIATE USE THERE, BUT IT'S APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES.
AND WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF, OF THE TOWN'S ORDINANCES, NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
BUT IF WE WERE TO TAKE 40, 40, UH, PUT 40 MULTIFAMILY HOMES OR APARTMENTS ON THAT THREE ACRE TRACK, THAT THREE ACRE PARCEL, IF GIVING UP 20%, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THAT THE BETTER SOLUTION AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO THIS IS ANYTHING OVER 110 HAS TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND, AND TO ANSWER, UM, MR. WOOD'S QUESTION, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THAT COULD BE A CONDITION OF COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, THAT AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BE MODIFIED TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO THE RESERVATION OR THE QUALIFICATION ON THE, ON THE 40 ADDITIONAL UNITS QUESTION.
UM, THE DENSITY UNITS WERE ALTERED THAT ARE WRITTEN INTO THE PROPOSAL AS IT IS NOW THAT WOULD TRANSFER TO THE TOWN.
IF THE TOWN ELECTED TO DO SUCH YES, THAT'S A PAPER BLOCK, BASICALLY, IT'S, IT'S ONLY FOR EITHER REMOVING DENSITY OR MOVING DENSITY INTO THE TOWN BANK, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT THE FIRST STICK UP TO BUILD AFFORDABLE OR FORCE HOUSING.
IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
UM, THE MULTIFAMILY CONCEPT AGAIN, I THINK IF WE CAN GO BACK AND JUST COME TO SOME NUMBER, UM, AND THEN THEY ALL GET BUILT AT THE SAME TIME TH THIS IS DONE AND IT GOES AWAY REAL QUICK.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS DIFFICULT AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND YOU'RE HAVING TO DO ALL THIS ON YOUR FEET AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I GET THAT.
WELL, DO, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN HE SAYS, UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST A PAPER, UM, PAPER TRAIL, BECAUSE IN OUR DENSITY BANK, WE HAVE AN IDENTIFY WHAT, WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT VALUE IS.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO COMPLICATE ANY FURTHER BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE THE UNITS BUILT.
UM, AND WE WANT YOU TO MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT THEY WILL BE BUILT THE SAME TIME.
UM, NO MATTER WHO DEVELOP IT, NO MATTER WHO IS THE THIRD PARTY OR THE FIRST PARTY IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DEVELOPED OR BUILT I'LL SUGGEST SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A REALLY SIMPLE SOLUTION.
IF IT WOULD ONLY WORK FOR EVERYONE, BILL 10, EIGHT OF THEM ARE YOURS.
AND TWO OF THEM ARE WORKFORCE.
YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT 10 OR, OR BEFORE THOSE NEXT 20 ARE PERMITTED,
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YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY OR ANYBODY AT HEART AT ONE POINT, BUT IT'S KIND OF GRADUALLY, LET ME GET TO 110, YOU'LL HAVE A HUNDRED.I MEAN, YOU'LL HAVE 22 AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSES.
SO WALTER, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SO 110, WE'RE HOPING THEY'RE 110 PRIESTS AND NUNS AND CLERGY, RIGHT? THAT'S THE HOPE OF THE CHURCH TO BUILD CLERGY HOUSING, IF YOU SOLD IT TO A THIRD PARTY, AND I'M KIND OF TALKING TO TERRY TOO, WOULDN'T THAT HAVE TO, COULDN'T WE, I MEAN, WHY IS THAT A PROBLEM TO PUT THAT THAT THIRD PARTY HAS COME BEFORE, HAS TO COME BEFORE THE TOWN KINDA JUMPED CRASHES.
THIS IS WHY WE'RE COMING BACK PUBLIC NEXT MONTH.
UM, BUT IF I HAD A PROBLEM TO REQUIRE THAT DEVELOPER TO COME TO THE TOWN FOR NEGOTIATIONS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF INDEED YOU SELL IT, I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S, WE'VE HAD DEVELOPERS COME TO US BEFORE AND ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO THAT WHEN THEY BUILD THEIR, THEIR UNITS ON NEW RIVERSIDE.
SO IS THAT JUST A CONCERN WITH YOU THAT YOU COULDN'T SELL THAT LAND TO A THIRD PARTY? UM, IF IT DID INDEED GO TO A THIRD PARTY, THEN WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE THAT MUST BE AFFORDABLE.
WELL, I, I, I THINK THAT IT, MAYOR, I THINK THAT IT IS IT'S THE, UM, LACK, IT'S A SMALL PIECE OF LAND, UH, OUR ABILITY TO FORESEE WHAT WOULD COME IN THE FUTURE.
IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF A GUARANTEE.
AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 110, BUT IF WE, IF THERE WAS A 120 FOOT, EXCUSE ME, A 120, UM, HOTEL ROOM, A HOTEL CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE, THAT WOULD BE 60, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CONSUME 60 OF THOSE 110 DENSITY UNITS.
AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE WITH OUR ASS WITH 110 THINKING THAT, WELL, YOU CONSUME 60 WITH 120 BEDROOM HOTEL, AND THEN YOU HAVE 40 LEFT AND THAT 40 LEFT COULD BE EITHER A CLERGY, RETIREMENT OR MULTIFAMILY.
AND, AND SO THAT, THAT'S THE THINKING, BECAUSE AGAIN, AS I SAID EARLIER, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MULTIFAMILY ANYWHERE, BUT THAT THREE ACRES AND THE PROBABILITY OF A FITTING, ANYTHING MORE THAN 40 ON THAT THREE ACRES IS UNLIKELY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS ALL INCLUDED IN THE HOTEL AND OR MULTIFAMILY.
SO THE 110 UNITS COULD BE A HOTEL AND, OR MULTI WHATEVER'S LEFTOVER CLERGY OR MULTIPLE HOTEL.
ONE ROOM IS EQUAL TO HALF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT.
AND THAT USE IS ALLOWED WHILE IS PROPOSED TO BE ALLOWED.
AND THEN MULTIFAMILY IS A PROPOSED USE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE CLERGY HOUSING THAT HE'S REFERRING TO.
THAT'S THE USE CLASSIFICATION IT WOULD GO INTO, BUT IT, WELL, IS IT A WAY TO RE LOOK AT THAT? I MEAN, IS IT A WAY TO LOOK AT THIS DOWN THE ROAD, AS THIS GOES THROUGH, IF THEY BUILD A HOTEL AND THEY ENDED UP WITH 40 UNITS AND THEY USE IT FOR A CURLER, GEE, ALL THIS TALK IS FOR NOTHING REALLY, BUT IF IT WAS A POINT THAT THEY WANTED TO SELL IT TO A THIRD PARTY FOR MIXED USE, I MEAN, FOR MULTIFAMILY CAN'T WE HAVE THAT COME BACK TO THE TOWN TOO.
WOULDN'T THE HOTEL GONE, THE 10 POINT SOMETHING OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WALTER OR NOT.
I MEAN THAT, AND THAT WAY IT WOULD HAVE TO GO, OH, YES, SIR.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE 10, THE 10.6 ACRES.
BUT IF I COULD, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO GET YOUR DENSITY UNLESS SHE LEFT THE 150 IN TECH.
WELL, EACH HOTEL ROOM USES UP A HALF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT, RIGHT.
BUT I'M SAYING, HE'S, HE'S SAYING THAT OUT OF 110, HE WOULD EAT UP 60 WITH A HOTEL AND IT WOULD LEAVE HIM 40 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY BASED ON THE 102 ON THE 110 NUMBER.
IF YOU WENT BACK AND HE'S ALREADY GOT 150 APPROVED, THEN THAT PLEASE PUTS ADDITIONAL UNITS OUT THERE.
AND AT THAT POINT WE CAN MAKE THE DEVELOPER COME BACK IF THEY SELL THE LAND AND DEVELOP AND NEGOTIATE WITH US ON THEIR MASTER PLANNER.
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SELL IT TO A THIRD? YEAH.APPLICANT HAS SAID OVER 110, WE WILL GUARANTEE FIRE, UM, IT TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, OR ANYBODY'S GOING TO BUILD MORE THAN 110, SO THAT DOESN'T SOLVE COUNCILMAN WOODS.
SO THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE ACTUAL UNITS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF HE SAID OR NOT, WOULD THEY BE INTERESTED? AND THE FEE IN LIEU OF MR. NASSER, IT'D BE, IT'D BE A FEAT.
TOM'S A UNIT LIKE US, WHICH AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMULA FOR, AND WE NEED A FORMULA.
UM, BUT WALTER, WHY, WHY IS IT A PROBLEM TO PASS THIS? AND ANY UNITS YOU SELL TO A PRIVATE DEVELOPER THAT BUILDS SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLERGY HOUSING HAVE A COMMITMENT OF 20% AFFORDABLE, FIVE SAT UP BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF A DEVELOPER.
AND THERE ARE DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD DO THAT AND BE ABLE TO GET INCENTIVES FROM THE TOWN TO DO THAT THROUGH SO MUCH THAT THE WHOLE REGION'S DOING.
UM, I THINK THAT'S THE CLEANEST WAY.
I MEAN, THE HOPES ARE YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF RELIGIOUS PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING, BUT IF NOT, LET THE OPEN MARKET DO IT.
AND NO, THERE THERE'S A COMMITMENT THAT 20%.
SO IF IT'S 44 UNITS, EIGHT OF THEM OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, MUST BE AFFORDABLE WITHIN OUR GUIDELINES OF AFFORDABILITY.
BUT I WAS TRYING TO, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY EXCLUDE WHAT YOU SAID, THE CLERGY HOUSING.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY TELLING FRED EARLIER.
DID YOU HEAR, DID YOU HEAR, UM, MR. STEVE, OKAY.
DID YOU HEAR MR. STEVE WALTER? UH, OKAY.
UM, WELL, I'M GOING TO TRY, SO I'D RATHER YOU SAY IT, STEVEN, YOU SAID IT SO MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY, BUT I DO.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE.
SO KIND OF WHAT THE MAYOR WAS SAYING AND WHAT I PIGGYBACKED ON.
CAN YOU HEAR ME, WALTER? CAN YOU HEAR HIM, WALTER? OKAY.
IS, UM, TO, UM, SAY THAT ANY, ANY PARCEL THAT YOU WOULD SELL TO A THIRD PARTY TO DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY THAT IS NOT FOR CLERGY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE NEW UDA REQUIREMENTS FOR THE 20%.
THAT WAY, IF YOU SELL TO A THIRD PARTY, THAT'S GOING TO BUILD MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS ON ONE OF THOSE PARCELS, THEN IT WOULD TRIGGER THE GUIDELINE IF IT'S NOT CLERGY RELATED, AND THEN YOU COULD STILL DO YOUR, THE HOTEL AS WELL.
I, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION, BUT I, I CAN'T, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO CONFER WITH MY CLIENT AT THIS TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS, I FEELS LIKE WE'RE BARGAINING AT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I, I, YOU KNOW, THAT WISH WE HAD DONE THIS WAS JUST DISCUSSION HAD COME UP.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A WORKSHOP WITH TOWN COUNCIL.
WE ACTUALLY MET TWICE AND A WORKSHOP
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AFTER THE LAST READING OF TOWN COUNCIL, WE WENT THROUGH THE USES AND DENSITIES.WE, WE MADE SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THIS APPLICATION OVER THE TWO YEAR PERIOD.
AND, AND, AND I'M, I FEEL LIKE I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO BARGAIN WITH TOWN COUNCIL FOR ITS APPROVAL AND THAT'S, THAT'S UNLAWFUL.
AND I, AND I, AND THERE'S REALLY, I MEAN, I CANNOT GIVE THOSE KINDS OF GUARANTEES, UM, AT, AT A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, ANOTHER 40 UNITS, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE RAISE THAT NUMBER AND IT GETS DEVELOPED, YOU CAN GO GUARANTEE THAT ITS WORKFORCE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MY CLIENTS, TO CONSIDER THE RAMIFICATIONS AND, AND WAS ABLE TO GIVE THAT IT'S HARDER TO GIVE THE ANSWER SIMPLY SAYING THAT IF YOU SELL THAT PARCEL, YOU SELL ONE OF THE PARCELS TO SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO DEVELOP IT FROM MULTIFAMILY.
YOU'RE GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT THE DIOCESE IS GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT THAT THAT DEVELOPER HAS TO CONSTRUCT AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING INTERCHANGE THE TERM THIS EVENING.
IT'S JUST THAT I CAN'T, I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT.
I WILL NOTE THAT BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ALL THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO GO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS.
THERE'S OTHER TOWN STAFF JUST TO SEE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED ON THAT PROPERTY AND TO TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT, I'M SORRY, BUT I CAN'T.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU APPRECIATE IT.
CAUSE I CAN'T ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT AT A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, WALTER, I'M GOING TO HAVE HEATHER COME UP AND I DO KNOW THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISGUSTED IN NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, WHICH THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IT TOO.
UM, AND I, AS HARD AS IT IS, AND I THINK YOU SEE ALL FIVE OF US HAVE TO PUSH EVERY PERSON THAT COMES BEFORE US.
I MEAN, AND IT'S FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, BUT HEATHER WAS SHAKING HER HEAD AT SOME POINT.
AND I'M GOING TO LET HEATHER TRY TO ANSWER THAT.
I DID JUST WANT TO ANSWER THAT.
SO TONIGHT IT'S ALL THE APPLICATIONS RELATED TO THE ANNEXATION REQUEST, AS WELL AS THAT NEXT STEP, THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
SO THAT INITIAL MASTER PLAN, THE BUBBLE DIAGRAM, LIKE YOU SAW WHERE THE ACRES UP FRONT FOR X AND THE CHURCH CAMPUS, THE NEXT STEPS SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD WOULD BE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS INITIALLY.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, WHETHER IT'S A HOTEL, A CONVENIENCE CENTER, MULTIFAMILY, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO THE SPECIFIC PLANS OF THE USE THAT'S REVIEWED BY TOWN STAFF AT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND THEN THAT GOES BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THAT IS A PUBLIC MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY APPROVE OR DENY OR TABLE OR APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S TYPICALLY LIKE YOUR 60% CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY CLOSED.
YOU JUST MAY NOT KNOW WHAT TREES YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT WHERE, AND THEN THOSE COMMENTS STAFF AND THE APPLICANT TAKE ALL THOSE COMMENTS AND REVIEW IT FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THAT AGAIN, SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD? IT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE SPECIFICS.
WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL? IS IT MULTIFAMILY? ARE THERE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE UNITS? I WILL REASSURE YOU EVEN.
STAFF IS ALWAYS THAT QUESTION, ALWAYS ASKING THAT QUESTION.
IS IT AFFORDABLE? IS IT WORKFORCE? ARE YOU WILLING, UM, YOU KNOW, TO INCORPORATE THAT OR WHAT'S YOUR MODEL? UM, WE, WE ASK THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REQUIRE IT, OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THOSE DETAILS ARE REVIEWED.
SO SORRY, MY LONG EXPLANATION, DOES THAT GIVE US ANY, ANYTHING CARVED IN STONE THOUGH, OR IS IT JUST, WE CAN ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING THEY SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM, WE ALLOW THEM TO DO WELL.
IT DOES, IT HAS TO FOLLOW THAT INITIAL MASTER PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND I WILL LOOK TO TERRY FINGER TO DETERMINE IF THERE CAN BE ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING AFFORDABILITY, OR IF ANYTHING WOULD NEED TO BE INCORPORATED IN EMOTION COMPLICATED.
AT THIS POINT, YOU MAY NEED TO TAKE, I MAY NEED TO TABLE THIS.
TERRY, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER? I HAVE WORKED ON, UH, ANY APPLICANT DEVELOPED THEN THE 20% AFFORDABLE
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HOUSING, I BELIEVE, UM, AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE, HEARTLESS IMPROVED BUILDS THEM, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALSO CONCERNED THAT NO, NO MEAT.WAS THIS DISCUSSED YOU'RE ON THAT TIME WHEN Y'ALL ALL MET AND WE HAVE, LET ME JUMP INTO THOUGH, IN FAIRNESS AND WALTER, AGAIN, I'M GLAD I'M NOT YOU TONIGHT IN YOUR SHOES.
UM, AGAIN, YOU'VE BEEN CAUGHT FLAT-FOOTED HOWEVER, AS YOU WELL KNOW, ATTENDING COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHEREVER YOU HAVE ATTENDED THEM, EVERYTHING IS NOT THOUGHT OF IT AT THE FIRST, UH, MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE FIRST READING TAKES PLACE AND THEN SOMETIMES THINGS JUST POP UP AT THE LAST MINUTE AND TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THINGS TAKE OFF FROM THERE.
I WONDER IF WE DID A 30 DAY, LIKE FRED SAID, AND LIKE TERRY SAID, IF WE TOOK A 30 DAY TABLE TO LET EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER SOLUTION OUT THERE.
TO HIS CLINIC AND SUGGESTED MY TABLE ALL IRONED OUT BEFORE WE COME IN HERE AND VOTE.
DIDN'T GET A NONE THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
AND THAT'S, IF WE HAD THE TABLET, WHAT TIMEFRAME WOULD YOU NEED IF YOU HAD TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, W W WHAT TIMEFRAME WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH? BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION PROCESS AGAIN, WHICH AN, UM, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, MR. HAMILTON.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF, UM, IF THAT SUITS OUR CLIENT, MY CLIENT AT THIS POINT, UM, AS MR. FINGER NOTED THERE'S
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APPLICATION IN 2019, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING.EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO FOR TWO YEARS, I, AND I DON'T KNOW, WAS STANDING HERE.
I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY CAUCUS WITH MY CLIENT, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEM, WHETHER THEY, WHETHER THEY WANT TO BE, UH, WHETHER THEY WANT TO TABLE THE APPLICATION OR NOT WHAT THE, WHAT THE DIOCESE OF CHARLESTON WANTED TO DO WAS BECAUSE THE PARISH OF ST.
GREGORY THE GREAT CATHOLIC CHURCH WANT IT TO BE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THEY PUT FORTH AN APPLICATION TO BECOME A PART OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN REALLY SAY WITH CERTAINTY, UH, AFTER THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT, SORRY.
I THINK WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IF, UM, I JUST, ONE QUICK, THANK YOU HEATHER.
ONE QUESTION, WE'RE DOING THIS NOW BECAUSE IT'S COMING INTO A PUD AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE ORDINANCE WE PASS CANNOT BE PUT IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, RIGHT? IS THAT WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE 20% NOW ON NEW ONES, YOU'RE TRYING, WE CAN.
SO IF THAT WERE TO SELL TO A THIRD PARTY, WOULDN'T THEY COME INTO AMENDA PUD TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY.
AT THAT TIME, PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? IT WOULD ALREADY BE AMENDED STARTED.
SO A THIRD PARTY BUYS FOUR ACRES AND THEY HAVE WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO, THEY CAN'T COME BACK TO, THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY A NEW PARTY.
DOESN'T HAVE THE NEW REQUIREMENTS PUT ON THEM.
SO THE, THE REQUIREMENTS AS THEY WERE WRITTEN IN ADOPTED WERE THAT ANY AMENDED PD THAT INCLUDED RESIDENTIAL OR NEW PUD.
SO IF THIS WERE, IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE APPROVED, THEY SELL A THIRD PARTY, COMES IN, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT AMENDING THE PUD AND JUST FOLLOWING THE APPROVED RULES, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO IN FULL DISCLOSURE AND FRED STATED, THIS IS MY CHURCH.
I DON'T BENEFIT FROM ANYTHING, BUT GOING ON SUNDAY, I KIND OF GO TO THE KNOW BETTER DO BETTER.
HONESTLY, THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE SENT THIS TO NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, BUT WE ALL SAID NO, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THESE WORKSHOPS WE HAD.
UM, AND I FEEL HORRIBLE FOR ALL SIDES, BUT THIS MIGHT NOT BE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN PUSH OUR WE'LL HAVE HOUSING AT THE LAST MINUTE.
SO I FEEL BAD FOR ALL SIDES WHEN WE HAD SUCH A GOOD HAPPENING AT NEW RIVERSIDE AND MS. FRAZIER ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT UP, BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE.
IT WASN'T THIS, THIS KIND OF FAN.
I WAS A NEW, AND IT WAS A NEW THING.
SO NOT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, I HATE IT.
I LIKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IF THIS ISN'T IT AND, AND WE STILL WANT TO ANNEX, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET SOME MORE COMMERCIAL UNDER OUR BELT.
IT JUST MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW, STRONGLY Y'ALL FEEL THE OTHER WAY, BUT TO PUT IT OFF TO NOT KNOW IF WE CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND, UM, JUST SEEMS LIKE SO MANY UNKNOWNS, SO I'M WILLING TO TABLE IT OR TO AGREE THAT WE CAN, UM, MIGHT BE UNPOPULAR I'M FOR ASKING.
BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT, UM, WE CAN'T FORCE, UM, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, FOR FORCING PEOPLE TO DO THINGS, UM, WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE.
I THINK THIS IS A PRIME TIME, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAY TO ME THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH, UM, A FORMULA OR SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM WHEN, UM, CLIENTS OR DEVELOPERS, WHOEVER AREN'T INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOLING OUT, UM, CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, AT ANY POINT TO, UM, SEVERAL RELATIONSHIPS YOU HAVE WITH PEOPLE OR DISCOURAGE THOSE WHO DO WANT TO COME IN AND DO BUSINESS HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE TYPES OF SEDIMENTS, BECAUSE THAT IS DURING THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE,
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LIKE WE WOULD HAVE PUT THIS TO NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, WE CAN SET A PRICE, IT CAN BE DIFFERENT FROM ONE COMMITTEE TO ANOTHER.AND, UM, THAT'S THE BATTLE IN US THAT WE DIDN'T, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME OF US THAT THINK WE CAN DO IT BETTER.
AND WE APPARENTLY DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF IT.
UM, AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT INTO A COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE A, GO-TO ALLOWING HIM TO GO BACK WITH HIS CLIENT AND DOING THE, UM, THE SPECIAL MEETING.
WALTER, COULD YOU ADD IF IT'S A, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO TABLE IT, AND IF THE COUNCIL'S WILLING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE AUGUST TO JUST DEAL WITH THIS SUBJECT, JUST TO ASK YOUR CLIENTS THOUGHTS.
CAUSE I KNOW IT, YOU, YOU CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO YOUR CLIENT'S WISHES WITHOUT THEM THERE.
BOY, I CAN HEAR MR. MR. STEVE.
SO WE DO HAVE A WORKSHOP MEETING COMING UP NEXT WEEK THAT WE COULD PUT THIS ON THAT AGENDA.
I'M CONCERNED, STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
AND PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROTECT THE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT AND UH, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS SURE WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE A FINAL READING THE FOLLOWING MONTH.
I KNOW WE'VE DONE THAT LONG IN THE PAST.
STUFF SAYS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK.
THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
ARIE D R U E TERRY IS COMFORTABLE WITH NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU YOU'RE MUTED, YOU'RE MUTED, WALTER.
OF COURSE, IF COUNSEL, UM, PAYPAL, THE APPLICATION THAT'S THAT IS IN THE PURVIEW OF TOWN COUNCIL.
I, I CAN'T SAY WITHOUT, UM, DISCUSSING WITH MY CLIENT, WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES US HAPPIER OR UNHAPPY, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT IT MAKES US UNHAPPY.
BUT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, GIVEN, GIVEN THIS DISCUSSION AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD IN THE WORKSHOP, TWO WORKSHOPS, UH, THREE WORKSHOPS ACTUALLY, UM, ONE WITH PLANNING COMMISSION TWO WITH, UH, MR. HAMILTON'S GROUP, UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WHAT IT IS THAT'S DESIRED BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE ACRE PARCEL AND WE, WE INITIALLY WANT IT TO BE GENERAL USE COMMERCIAL.
IF A PUG WAS, UM, WAS ACTUALLY SUGGESTED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL BACK IN 20, UM, AND TO ANNEX, UM, WE WERE THAT'S WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO TURN IT INTO A PUD AND EVERY, EVERY REQUEST UP TO THIS POINT, WE'VE SAID YES, BUT I, AGAIN, IF THE TOWN COUNCIL WANTS TO TABLE THAT I CAN'T STOP THAT, IT'S NOT.
UM, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THE SNL ANSWER, I'M SORRY, MAYOR.
I CAN'T GIVE A YES OR NO ANSWER ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY, THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE BECAUSE IT'S PURVIEW OF COUNCIL IS NOT OUR AGENDA.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO PROCEED, MAKE AN EMOTION AND SEE WHERE IT LANDS.
DO YOU WANT TO TABLE? I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
I WISH WE WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER.
I WANT TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE WHEREVER WE CAN AND, AND, AND GET IT DONE.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS WHEN, IF WE CHANGE OUR RULES, I MEAN, IN THIS, IN MY OPINION, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT IT'S PETER TALKS WITH MY, MY COMMON SENSE SAYING THAT THEY'RE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN, UH, EVEN THOUGH YOU PUT IT IN AN APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION, YOU DIDN'T PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT.
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NOW WHAT, BEFORE OUR ORDINANCE, WE CHANGED OUR UDL BECAUSE WE HAD AN ISSUE AS WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE.YOU LET EVERYBODY BUILD ALL THESE DEVELOPERS COMING IN HERE, BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING, TURNING AROUND AND LEAVING.
AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT ANYBODY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
THE PEOPLE WORKING, PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
SO THIS IS WHY WE'VE BEEN BATTLING FOR EIGHT YEARS, THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.
SO WE PUT SOMETHING ON PAPER TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
AND NOW IF WE DON'T SOMEWHAT BARGAIN AND GET SOME KIND OF BANG FOR OUR EFFORT, THE NEXT STORY IS GOING TO BE THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, W WE, WE, CAN'T JUST, WE CAN'T PUT RULES ON THE BOOKS AND NOT ENFORCE THEM IN MY OPINION.
UM, SO, UM, I'M, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT HAPPEN.
I'D LOVE TO HELP ANY WAY I CAN, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN WRITING ONE THING OR TREATING ONE PERSON ONE WAY AND ONE PERSON, THE OTHER, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO BE FAIR UPFRONT AND HONEST AND GO BY THE RULES.
I THINK THIS ONE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHERS JUST FELL IN THOSE CRACKS.
I MEAN, I THINK THEY WERE PLAYING WITH THE RULES WITH THEM, AND THEN WE MADE A DECISION AND LEGALLY AND COVID AND ALL THAT STUFF, EVERYTHING KIND OF PROLONGED EVERYTHING.
SO, BUT WE, UM, WE PASSED SOMETHING IN THE MIDST AND HOW MANY OTHERS ARE IN THE MYTHS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS HAS JUST BEEN A TWO YEAR PROJECT.
IT'S A TWO YEAR PROJECT AND WE PASSED A LOT OF THINGS INTO, AND WE'VE HAD, COVID TALKING ABOUT A WEEK.
WE HAVE IN THE WORKSHOP IN A WEEK.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HURTING THEM TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK.
[XI.1. Consideration of Approval of a Master Plan for Saint Gregory the Great Consisting of Approximately 61.093 Acres of Land Located at 323 Fording Island Road and Zoned as Buckwalter Planned Unit Development – Kevin Icard, Planning and Community Development Manager ]
OH, THEY'LL BE TABLED AS A SECOND.THERE'S A FIRST AND A SECOND INDIE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE OPPOSED NO, OR ONE WALTER, WILL YOU GO BACK AND ASK THEM? AND IF THERE'S A MAYBE GET WITH TERRY AND WE WILL PUT THIS ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA, FOR SURE.
IF THAT'S, UH, WISHES OF Y'ALL.
UM, TERRY, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT ONE ITEM ONE NOW, BUT WE WERE REALLY ON 10.
WE DIDN'T, WE WERE GOING TO INCLUDE 11 ONE, WE NEED.
[XI.2. Consideration of the Acceptance of the Town of Bluffton’s One Hundred Percent (100%) Annexation Petition to Annex Certain Real Property Contiguous to the Town of Bluffton’s Corporate Boundaries Consisting of a Total of 9.27 Acres, More or Less, and Bearing Beaufort County Tax Map No. R601 039 000 0050 0000, and referral to the Town of Bluffton Negotiating Committee if Deemed Necessary - Heather Colin, Director of Growth Management]
ITEM NUMBER TWO CONSIDERATION OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS 100% ANNEXATION PETITION TO ANNEX CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY CONTIGUOUS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CORPORATE BOUNDARIES CONSISTING OF A 9.27 ACRES.UM, AND THE TAX MAP NUMBER IS THERE AND REFERRAL TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE AT DEEM NECESSARY.
HEATHER, DOES WALTER STILL NEED TO BE ON THE WELL NOW? NO.
THIS IS THE, UM, ANNEXATION REQUEST FOR ITEM NUMBERS GATHER YOU'RE UP FOR ANNEXATION HERE.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER ANNEXATION REQUEST.
THIS IS BACK TO THE VERY FIRST STEP OF ANNEXATION, BASICALLY THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE ANNEXATION PETITION.
THIS IS PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT OVER NINE ACRES LOCATED AT ONE 15 BLUFFTON ROAD THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, JUST OUTSIDE THE MUNICIPAL LIMITS.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU CAN EAT THAT TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS OR REFER THAT BACK TO NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE HAD A, UM, WORKSHOP ON THIS ITEM, UH, BACK IN APRIL 13TH.
AND AT THAT TIME, THE DIRECTION PROVIDED BY TOWN COUNCIL AT THAT MEETING WAS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE, PREPARE THE NECESSARY APPLICATION MATERIALS, UM, AND THE CONCURRENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION FOR THAT PROPERTY AT THE TIME, UM, STAFF PRESENTED EITHER A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR GENERAL, UH, MIXED USE AND THE DIRECTION AT THAT TIME WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GENERAL MIXED USE.
AGAIN, WE OWN, WE CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY, SO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PLACE.
UM, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PLACE DEED RESTRICTION, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, OR IN TURN, AFTER IT'S ANNEXED, REZONE IT TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IF THAT BETTER SUITS, UH, THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN.
AND AGAIN, UM, RECENTLY WE REVISED, UH, THE ANNEXATION POLICY TO INCLUDE THIS STEP, UM, AS THAT INITIAL STEP TO BASICALLY JUST ACCEPT THAT APPLICATION.
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MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.UM, GENERAL MIXED USE IS THE CONCURRENT ZONING MAP, UM, DESIGNATION THAT'S THAT STAFF'S PROPOSING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THAT INITIAL BRIEFING OR ACCEPTANCE OF THE APPLICATION.
HERE'S WHERE THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED, THAT BLUE LINE AND EVERYTHING TO THE LEFT IS, UH, THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL LIMIT.
UM, SINCE THE RECENT, UM, ANNEXATION OF THE BURNT CHURCH DISTILLERY.
NOW THIS PROPERTY IS CONTIGUOUS TO DOES MEET THAT ANOTHER, UM, MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA AND WHERE IT IS, IS ESPECIALLY IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE THERE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, HERE'S JUST REITERATION OF THAT REQUEST.
THE PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT OVER NINE ACRES, SEVEN OF WHICH A LITTLE BIT OVER SEVEN IS UPLANDS.
AND THERE ARE, UM, 1.9 ACRES OF WETLANDS THAT FUTURE ANNEXATION AREA MAP, UM, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF, AND THE ANALYSIS SHOWING THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, WHAT IT WHAT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS FAR AS THAT HAMLET CENTER.
UM, IT IS SPLIT ZONE BETWEEN HOW MUCH CENTER AND A T3 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UM, THAT PERMITTED LAND USE TABLE, AS FAR AS EVERYTHING THAT IS PERMITTED, UH, CURRENTLY IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL, UM, AN OFFICE.
AND YOU CAN, UM, THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE STEPS AND THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
WE ARE AT THAT INITIAL STEP THAT ACCEPTANCE OF THE PETITION.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP, UM, PUBLIC HEARING, AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THEN FIRST READING SECOND AND FINAL READING, AS WELL AS PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS ALSO THE OPTION TO FORWARD THAT TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL, ANYONE ON THIS SIDE IS THIS, THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, JUST TO SAY, YES, WE'RE INTERESTED, THEN WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OFF USES FOR, FROM THE TABLE.
SO WITH GENERAL MIXED USE, IF IT MOVES FORWARD WITH GENERAL MIXED USE, THESE ARE THE DISTRICT.
THESE ARE THE USES THAT WOULD COME WITH GENERAL MIXED USE.
SO THERE'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IF IT WERE OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE.
YOU CAN ALWAYS PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY OR RESTRICT TO THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE ARE THE CURRENT OWNERS.
IF YOU WANT THE ZONING TO REFLECT THAT SAME CHANGE OF USES, IT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE THROUGH A PUD OR ALTERNATE.
UM, AND AGAIN, IF IT WERE ZONE AS GENERAL MIXED USE, AND THEN COUNCIL DECIDES MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUD, YOU'VE SEEN ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S REQUIRED OF THAT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, OR WE COULD INITIALLY DO THAT.
IT'S, IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS 100% ANNEXATION PETITION TO ANNEX CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY CONTIGUOUS TO THE TOWN OF BLOCKCHAINS CORPORATE BOUNDARIES CONSISTING OF A TOTAL OF 9.27 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, AND BEARING BUFORD COUNTY TAX MAT NUMBER 6 0 1 0 3, 9 0 0 5 0 THERE.
ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[XI.3. Consideration of a Resolution to Approve a Three-Party Agreement Between the Town of Bluffton, Palmetto Electric Cooperative, Inc., and Dominion Energy South Carolina, Inc. to Delineate Territory on a Parcel by Parcel Basis and to Agree to Overarching Terms to be Incorporated into New Franchise Agreements - Chris Forster, Director of Finance and Administration]
NEXT ON THE LIST CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A THREE-PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, PALMETTO ELECTRIC AND DOMINION TO DELINEATE TERRITORY ON A PARCEL BY PARCEL BASIS, AND TO AGREE TO OVERARCHING TERMS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO A NEW FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, CHRIS FORRESTER AND MR. TIM, ARE YOU FOR TUMORS LEAVING? DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL HE, FOR THE MINUTES MR. TUMOR IS NOT AT THE DIOCESE.UH, SO TONIGHT WE HAVE WITH US, UH, ASHLEY FEASTER, UH, SHE'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AFFAIRS OFFICER OF PALMETTO ELECTRIC AND BLAKELEY WILLIAMS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LOCAL AFFAIRS OFFICER OF DOMINION ENERGY.
UM, AS THE, UH, ITEM SAYS, THIS IS A THIRD THREE PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE TWO ELECTRIC SERVICE PROVIDERS, UH, WHICH DEFINES WHICH TERRITORIES WITHIN BLUFFTON WILL BE SERVED BY EACH ELECTRIC PROVIDER.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO HAND OVER TO ASHLEY, UH, TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE HISTORY OF THIS AND
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ASHLEY, ARE YOU HI, ASHLEY.UM, IF, UM, BLAKELY COULD MUTE WHILE ASHLEY'S TALKING, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I'LL COME A LITTLE LOUDER, ASHLEY.
UM, JUST TO BRING EVERYTHING FORWARD TO YOU ON EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
UM, THE FIRST ITEM UP IS AN ELECTRIC SERVICE RIGHTS AGREEMENT.
UM, BASICALLY THIS IS THE COMMON ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE AND DOMINION ELECTRIC, UH, OR DOMINION ENERGY.
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS WORKED, UH, OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF MONTHS, UH, TO GO THROUGH OUR TERRITORY, UH, TO CLEAR UP SOME UNSETTLED AREAS THROUGHOUT OUR DIFFERENT REGIONAL TERRITORIES, UM, TO TRY TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT WEREN'T QUITE UNDERSTOOD AS TO WHOSE TERRITORY THEY WERE.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH WITH RGA ALL LOOKING AT FACTORS WITH REGARDS TO INFRASTRUCTURE LOCATIONS THAT WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE LOCATED, UH, PLANNED, UH, FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, CURRENT SERVICE DISTRIBUTION TO TRY AND, AND MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR TERRITORIES WERE COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD.
UM, THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE ACROSS THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU'VE SEEN, UH, SERVICE RIGHTS DISAGREEMENTS, WHICH ENDED UP IN LAWSUITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT JUST SPEEDS.
UM, THAT JUST DON'T MAKE IT EASY FOR BOTH MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES.
UH, WE DID THAT, UH, WHERE WE'VE COME OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WE HAVE, WHAT IS, UH, AN ELECTRIC SERVICE RIGHTS AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, THAT SHOWS THE EXACT TERRITORIES, AND IT DOES AFFECT SOME OF THE AREAS OF BLUFFED IN SOME SMALL AREAS.
AND WHEN WE DO THAT, UM, UH, GO BEFORE YOU, AND IT'S ELECTRIC SERVICE RATES, ONE RATING ALONG WITH A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT GOES WITH THAT, A RENEWAL OF A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, UM, WHICH WILL BE THE NEXT SIGN THEM UP ON, UM, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, THAT NEEDS TO READINGS THAT WE BOTH ENTER INTO.
UM, TH THAT ESTABLISHES THOUGH THAT ACTUAL MAPPING.
UH, SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT, TAKE THOSE UP AND, UM, QUESTIONS, CHRIS.
I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHERE WE WERE.
NUMBER THREE IS SOMETHING WE VOTE ON AND THE NUMBER FOUR IS THE ORDINANCE, OR, YEAH.
SO NUMBER THREE IS THE ELECTRIC SERVICE RIGHTS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS BASICALLY ALL THREE PARTIES AGREEING TO THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR MAP.
AND THEN NUMBER FOUR IS THE ACTUAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS VOTE NOW IS GOING TO BE ON US, AGREEING TO BE IN PART OF THIS TERRITORIAL OVERLAY OF WHO DOES WHAT RIGHT.
SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE ITEM, WHICH THANK YOU, MR. STACE, FOR CLARIFYING THAT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PALMATE ELECTRIC AND THEN, UH, DOMINION ENERGY TO DELINEATE TERRITORY ON A PARCEL BY PARCEL BASIS, AND TO AGREE TO OVER ARCHING TERMS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO AN NEW FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS FOR A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE, AYE.
[XI.4. Consideration of an Ordinance Relating to the Renewal Franchise Agreements Between the Town of Bluffton and its Electric Service Providers, Palmetto Electric Cooperative, Inc. and Dominion Energy South Carolina, Inc. - First Reading - Chris Forster, Director of Finance and Administration ]
UM, MOVING ON TO THE ACTUAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENT CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE RENEWAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, IT'S BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND ITS ELECTRIC PROVIDERS, PALMETTO ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE AND DOMINION ENERGY.UM, AND THIS IS FIRST READING AND I GUESS WE SHOULD SAY ELECTRIC AND NATURAL GAS PROVIDERS.
SO THE, THE, THESE ARE IN YOUR PACKET ARE THE TWO FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS.
UM, THESE ARE GOING TO BE 20 YEAR AGREEMENTS, UM, AND THE, UH, THERE'S A QUARTERLY PAYMENTS OF 5% OF TOTAL GROSS SALES, UM, WITH EXCEPTIONS ON INDUSTRIAL MUNICIPAL, UM, ALSO OUTLINES WITHIN THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS, UH, AROUND STREET FIGHTING AND, AND, UH, FIRMS, I DON'T KNOW, ASHLEY OR BLAKELY.
YOU WANTED TO ADD ANY, ANY COMMENTS TO THAT? UH, I MEAN, WE, THE TERMS ARE IDENTICAL WITH REGARDS
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TO, UM, THE 5% TERM 20 YEARS, UH, AT THE END OF 20 YEARS, OR AT 19 A YEAR 19, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, AND RENEGOTIATE FOR THE, UM, THE END OF TERM OF YEAR 20, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUTURE HERE.SO, UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE AT 5%, UH, SO THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE.
UM, AND I BELIEVE OUR CURRENT TERM FOR IT.
AT LEAST I SPEAK FOR PALMETTO ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE, OUR CURRENT TERM 20 YEARS.
QUESTIONS LIKELY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER WITH PERIMETER ELECTRIC AND WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THE THREE, IF NOT AS SARAH, IS THIS THE FIRST READING? UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE RELATING THE RENEWAL FRIENDS' HOUSE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND ITS ELECTRIC AND NATURAL GRASS SERVICE PROVIDERS, PAMELA ELECTRIC AND DOMINION ENERGY, SOUTH CAROLINA, THEIR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU LADIES FOR PARTICIPATING.
[XI.5. Consideration of an Ordinance Repealing and Replacing the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 6, Business and Business Regulations, Article II, Business Licenses and Regulations and Amending Chapter 6, Business and Business Regulations, Article III, Soliciting and Mobile Vending - First Reading - Natalie Majorkiewicz, Treasury Manager]
ITEM FIVE UNDER FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE REPEALING AND REPLACING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES.CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE TWO AND AMENDING CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE THREE, THIS IS FIRST READING AND ITS OWN BUSINESS LICENSES AND SOLICITING AND MOBILE BENDING.
HOW ARE YOU? I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING YOUR DAUGHTER EARLIER TODAY.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING IS THE REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE TWO, TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA BUSINESS LICENSE TEXT STANDARDIZATION ACT, AS WELL AS THE AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE THREE, UM, IN THE ACT, THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT JURISDICTIONS MUST MEET BY JANUARY 1ST, 2022.
SOME OF THEM THE TOWN HAS ALREADY BEEN DOING, UM, SUCH AS ASSIGNING NEXT CODES TO EACH BUSINESS.
SOME WERE INCORPORATED BACK IN 2018.
UM, WHEN WE AMENDED THE ORDINANCE SUCH AS MOVING OUR DUE DATE FROM APRIL 15TH TO APRIL 30TH AND GOING TOWARDS THE STANDARDIZED CLASS SCHEDULE RECOMMENDED BY MSC AND THE OTHERS WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THIS UPDATE.
UM, IT IS A REQUIREMENT TO START USING THE MAY THROUGH APRIL, UH, LICENSE YEAR.
OURS IS CURRENTLY A CALENDAR YEAR, SO IT CREATES A GAP FROM THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR TO THE DUE DATE OF APRIL 30TH, UH, GOING FORWARD, THE TOWN WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO ADOPT AN UPDATED CLASS SCHEDULE EVERY YEAR.
UM, THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE TOWN TO REMAIN REVENUE NEUTRAL FOR 2022.
UM, THIS WAS THROUGH A REBALANCING REBALANCING PROCESS WITH MIFC.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW OUR BUSINESSES TO RENEW THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE THROUGH MAS CS PAYMENT PORTAL.
THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE TOWN REPEAL ITS CURRENT BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE AND REPLACE IT WITH THE REVISED MODEL ORDINANCE.
CURRENTLY OUR BASE ALLOWANCE IS $10,000 AND IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE OUR BASE ALLOWANCE DOWN TO $2,000 AND, UM, TO EXTEND OUR CURRENT BUSINESS LICE, OUR 2021 BUSINESS LICENSE, THE EXPIRATION DATE FROM DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 TO APRIL 30TH, 2022, UM, WITH THE REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF ARTICLE TWO, IT LEFT SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS OFF THAT ARE MORE PERTINENT TO PERTINENT TO ARTICLE THREE.
SO THE SECOND PART OF THE EVENING'S RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS TO MOVE THOSE TERMS TO ARTICLE THREE, A, WHICH IS SOLICITING AND MOBILE VENDING, AND TO ADD SECTION SIX DASH 74, THAT WILL CAPTURE THOSE DEFINITIONS.
UM, THESE NEXT IT'S 10 SLIDES, UM, WE'LL CAPTURE THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE IMPACTS WITH THE REBALANCING AND GOING TOWARDS THE NEW MODEL ORDINANCE.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT 10 SLIDES, THE NEXT CODES IMPACTED THE RATE CLASS, UM, CURRENT AND FUTURE THE ESTIMATED IMPACT.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT AVERAGE BASED ON THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO DURING THE REBALANCING PROCESS, WE IDENTIFIED THOSE NEXT CODES.
UM, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE LARGEST SHIFT, UM, AND RATE CLASS WITH THOSE BUSINESSES CONTAINED IN THE NEXT
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CODE.UM, BEGINNING WITH FIVE TO FOUR THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN A CLASS ONE THAT MOVED TO A CLASS SEVEN.
UM, THESE ARE INSURANCE AGENTS AND BROKERS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE MUNICIPALS OR INSURANCE TAX COLLECTION PROGRAM.
UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE ARE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT START WITH 5, 3, 2, UM, THAT CAPTURE EQUIPMENT, UM, SUPPLY PARTY RENTALS AND LEASES.
AND I'M HAPPY TO PAUSE IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING.
UM, THESE BUSINESSES, UM, ARE MOVING FORWARD CLASSES.
UM, THEY'RE TYPICALLY CARWASH IS AUTO SHOPS, EQUIPMENT REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BUSINESSES CAPTURED THE NEXT MOVING THREE, THREE RATE CLASSES.
UM, TYPICALLY MORTGAGE FINANCE SERVICES AND MANAGEMENT FIRMS SLIDES CAPTURE THE TWO RATE CLASS MOVEMENTS.
UM, THIS FIRST SLIDE SHOWS PUBLISHING AND COMMUNICATION COMPANIES.
AND THEN, UM, LAW FIRMS, TAX BUSINESSES, ARCHITECTS, AND SURVEYING BUSINESSES, UM, FOLLOWED BY, UM, SECURITY COMPANIES, PEST CONTROL, CLEANING LANDSCAPING, AND THEN ATHLETIC AND EDUCATION SERVICES.
HI, IT'S CAPTURED ON THIS SLIDE ARE, UM, HOTELS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THEN MEDICAL PROFESSIONS.
AND, UM, ON THIS SIDE, IT'S TYPICALLY NAIL TECHNICIANS, PET SERVICES, HAIR SALONS, AND THEN CERTAIN CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS.
THEN FINALLY, UM, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE MOVING ONE RATE CLASSES, UM, ONE RECLASS MOVING UP FROM ONE TO TWO OR MANUFACTURING, TRANSPORTATION MOVING FROM TWO TO THREE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT RECREATION, AND THEN MOVING FROM SIX TO SEVEN, OUR REAL ESTATE AND, UM, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FIRMS. NOW THERE IS A DECREASE AND THAT IS BECAUSE CURRENTLY OUR RECLASS SIX IS A $2 PER THOUSAND.
AND WITH THE PROPOSED RATE CLASS SCHEDULE, THIS WILL MOVE THE RATE CLASS SEVEN TO ONE POINT OR A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR 90 CENTS PER THOUSAND.
SO, UM, IN SUMMARY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, UM, IT IS RECOMMENDED TO MOVE OUR BASE ALLOWANCE FROM $10,000 TO $2,000, UH, WHILE THE MODEL HAS, UM, TO THAT WAVE THE LATE FEES, IT IS NOT IN THE LAW, SO IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO RETAIN THE ABILITY.
UM, IT IS RECOMMENDED TO RETAIN THE INCENTIVE OR IN, IN YOUR, UM, IN THE PACKET FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT DOES INCLUDE THE RETENTION OF OUR CURRENT INCENTIVES.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO MAINTAIN THE BASE FEE OF $50, THE RATE CLASS BEGINNING AT A DOLLAR, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES RECLASS EIGHT THAT, UM, INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION AND CONTRACTING, UM, WITH THE REBALANCING.
IT ALSO REDUCED THE STEP INCREASE FROM 20 CENTS TO 15 CENTS PER THOUSAND.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK MIFC AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS FOR ALL OF THEIR ASSISTANCE WITH THIS.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO OUR NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES? UM, SO TOWN OF HILTON HAD HAD THEIR FIRST SET FIRST OF TWO SESSIONS TODAY.
UM, I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO MY PARTNER, UM, AT HILTON HEAD.
UM, BUT THEY ARE PROJECTING AN INCREASE IN THEIR RATE CLASS SCHEDULE.
UM, BUFORD COUNTY WAS A LITTLE BIT, UM, THEY HAD AN ADJUSTMENT ON BOTH THEIR, UM, BASE FEE AND THEIR PER THOUSAND.
UM, BUT THEY APPROVED THEIR ORDINANCE BACK IN DECEMBER, UM, INSTEAD OF CITY OF BUFORD OR TOWN OR CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. HAMILTON? I HEARD SOMETHING LAST NIGHT THAT I DIDN'T GET A PICTURE ON, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ONLY GONNA REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE ONE LICENSE FOR THERE IS THE REQUIREMENT.
IF YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS IN ANY JURISDICTION, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO OBTAIN AND HOLD.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, PRAYER, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE HAD THIS, WE WENT TO THE SESSION IN COLUMBIA A FEW YEARS AGO.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE CENTRALIZED PLACE TO PAY ALL OF YOUR FEES.
WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, IF I HAVE A LICENSE IN BUFORD OR HILTON AT THEM, OR I HAVE TO GO TO EACH OF THEM TO PAY MY FEES, WHEREAS THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE TO IS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA BUSINESS OWNERS, YOU CAN GO TO ONE SITE,
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PAY ALL YOUR FEES TO WHATEVER MUNICIPALITIES ON THAT SITE, WHERE ARE WE RIGHT THEN THAT'S THAT PORTAL.AND IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH COUNTYWIDE OR STATEWIDE OR, I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? IT'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE ACT THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOW THOSE BUSINESSES TO UTILIZE THAT PORTAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS A FIRST READING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE REPEALING AND REPLACING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES? CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE TWO AND REGULATIONS TO COMPLY WITH ACT 1 76 OF THE 2020, AND AMENDING CHAPTER SIX ARTICLES THREE TO ADD DEFINITION SECTION THERE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[XI.6. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23 - Unified Development Ordinance, Article 5 - Design Standards, Sec. 5.13 Signs and 5.15 Old Town Bluffton Historic District, 5.15.6, Architectural Standards, Q. Sign Guidelines- Heather Colin, Director of Growth Management]
SIX, UNDER FORMAL ITEMS, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION FIVE, 13 AND 5 15, 5, 15 0.6, SIGN GUIDELINES.I SAW THAT AND I DIDN'T UNDER, SO THAT'S THE SECTION RELATED TO HISTORICAL.
AND MR. HAMILTON, ARE YOU LEAVING FOR AWHILE? OKAY.
DO YOU WANT HEATHER TO PAUSE? OKAY, HEATHER, YOU'RE UP CROSSING PATHS.
I MISSED CALLING THEM OUT AND I, OF COURSE WE'LL MAKE IT THROUGH COUNCIL.
RIGHT? SO YOU DISAPPEARED ALL THREE MEN.
THEY JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE EXCEPT FOR TERRY.
SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR FIRST READING OF AMENDMENTS TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
SO REAL QUICK, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY ARE WE CHANGING THE SIGN ORDINANCE? UM, UPDATE THE SIGN REGULATIONS? WELL, BECAUSE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ACTION ITEM, THIS WAS ONE OF THE IDENTIFIED ITEMS TO REVIEW AND, UM, FORWARD WITH.
WE WANT TO ALWAYS LOOK AT OUR REGULATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPREHENSIVE AND CLEAR.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL JUST EDITS, MAKE THINGS EASY AS YOU USE THEM.
YOU FIGURE OUT THINGS THAT MAYBE AREN'T CLEAR.
SO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AND CLEAR IMPROVE IN THAT FORMAT FORMAT.
AND THE OTHER REALLY BIG ONE IS LEGAL COMPLIANCE.
MAKE SURE THAT OUR REGULATIONS ARE FOLLOWING CURRENT CASE LAW AND SOME COURT CASES THAT HAVE RECENTLY, UM, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE DID REVIEW THIS AND SEE, CAN WE APPLY THIS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS? AND, UM, THE ORDINANCE IS THERE, UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THAT HAS MOVED FORWARD, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN APPLY.
TOWN-WIDE HOWEVER, UM, IT DOES AFFECT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IN ALL AREAS, NOT DESIGNATED IN A PUD.
SO, UM, HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE HD ZONES, WHICH THERE ARE, UM, SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CODIFY AND KIND OF CONDENSE IN ONE SECTION.
AND AGAIN, ALL THOSE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS, HERE'S JUST A LIST OF THOSE SECTIONS.
UM, LIKE THE MAYOR WENT THROUGH AND JUST A EXPLANATION OF WHAT THEY ARE.
SO THE REGULATIONS, LEMONS THEMSELVES, PERMITTING PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, AS WELL AS DEFINED TERMS. WE'VE NOTICED THERE'S SOME SECTIONS THAT ARE DEFINED, BUT THERE'S NO REGULATIONS OR VICE VERSA.
AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SIGNAGE, THE PROCESSES JUST LISTED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE, GET THAT STREAMLINED AND MAKE IT CLEAR.
NOW THEIR LISTS WITHOUT PASTING UP THE ORDINANCE, THE RED LINE ORDINANCE VERSION, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT THESE ARE JUST THOSE SECTIONS.
SO JUST ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LISTS OF THOSE EXISTING SUBSECTIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONDENSE IT, GET IT ALL IN A GENERAL REQUIREMENT SIGNED SECTION, UM, WITH THAT PROPOSED SUBSECTION LIST.
JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS AGAIN, REFORMATTING THAT SECTION RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE DOING A SIGN IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, OR YOU'RE DOING A SIGN ALONG BLUFFTON ROAD OR ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICTS, THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
JUST PULL OUT AND OPEN THE SIGN REGULATIONS.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN THE CURRENT UDL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REFORMAT THAT.
UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT LEGAL, UM, QUESTION THAT I STATED, JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERY THEO'S OBJECTION, THE OBJECTIVES ARE CONTENT NEUTRAL, UM, AND NON-DISCRIMINATORY IN THEIR SIGN MESSAGES.
SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT FOLLOWS, UM, THE LAW AND THE COURT CASES.
AND WE HAVE WORKED, I WILL SAY WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, TERRY FINGER AND SPECIFICALLY RICHARDSON BRUCE AND HE'S PROVIDED, UM, GUIDANCE.
AND HE HAS REVIEWED WHAT'S BEFORE.
HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? SO AS GONE
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THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW AT THIS POINT, IN ADDITION IS FOR EXAMPLE, PERMANENT SIGN A CATEGORY TO INCLUDE FREE-STANDING SIGNS, UM, PRESENTABLY, PRESENTLY, THEY'RE CALLED MONUMENT SIGNS, BUILDING SIGNS, WALL SIGNS, AND JUST GO THROUGH AND AGAIN, USE THE SAME LANGUAGE, KEEP THAT CONSISTENT.SO IT'S CLEAR, UM, AND THEN ASSIGN MAINTENANCE SECTION THAT DOES, UM, ALLOW FOR THAT OR ENCOURAGE AND REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF SIGNS, UH, FOR BUSINESSES 30 DAYS AFTER THEY CEASE THEIR OPERATION.
SO AFTER THEY CLOSE OUT THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE, THAT THAT SIGN IS REMOVED AS WELL.
AND THAT'S, UM, COMMON, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FIND PERMIT SECTION, LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE NOT SUBSTANTATIVE IN NATURE, BUT MORE TO STREAMLINE WITH THOSE CROSS REFERENCES.
AGAIN, MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR TO BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS, PUT THEM INTO ACTION.
SO IN CASE WE DON'T EVER WANT TO MISS A CROSS-REFERENCE OR ANOTHER, UM, SECTION THAT MAYBE A BUSINESS OWNER, WHEN THEY'RE ASSIGN IT, SIGN NEW SIGN, DIDN'T HAPPEN TO SEE, AND THEY COME TO THE TOWN AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, TURN THE PAGE A COUPLE MORE TIMES AND MAYBE YOU FIND IT.
SO AGAIN, JUST MAKE THAT MORE USER-FRIENDLY LIKE I SAID, HERE'S THE SAME CHANGES WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT HISTORIC DISTRICT SUBSECTIONS.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S MORE PROPOSED SUBSECTIONS, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ORGANIZED DIFFERENTLY AND TRYING TO BE, BE CONSISTENT.
AND HERE'S JUST SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SIGNAGE AND THE DIFFERENT SIGN TYPE, AS WELL AS THE PERMITTED WALL SIGNS, UM, BEFORE WALL SIGNS WERE JUST KIND OF THIS CATCH ALL CATEGORY AS A LITTLE SAY.
UM, AND WE WANT TO MAKE AGAIN, MAKE THAT CONSISTENT WITH IT'S A WALL SIGN WINDOW SIGN AWNING TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS ARE PERMITTED AND JUST FOLLOW THAT MASTER PIPELINE OR EXCUSE ME, MASTER SIGNED PLAN FIREMEN THAT FOR MULTIPLE ESTABLISHMENTS, THAT THERE'S AN OVERALL SIGNAGE PLAN.
AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY CODIFYING.
WHAT'S ALREADY DONE IN MANY INSTANCES AND THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
AND JUST KIND OF, LIKE I SAID, JUST MAKING SURE RIGHT NOW SITE FEATURE PERMIT IS HOW, IF YOU WERE TO GET SIGN IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ASSIGNED PERMIT.
IT IS CALLED A SITE FEATURE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SITE, FUTURE PERMIT.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST NOT SUBSTANTIVE, NOT SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, BUT JUST MEANT TO STREAMLINE THAT AND CROSS REFERENCE IT SO THAT IT'S, IT'S CLEAR ALL ALIGNED, EITHER REVISING THEM, ADDING A NEW DEFINITION WHERE IT'S LEFT TO JUST INTERPRETATION IN SOME INSTANCES, AND THEN, UM, ELIMINATE OTHER, UH, KEY SIGN CATEGORIES THAT ARE DEFINED ELSEWHERE OR OVER IN OTHER AREAS.
I WILL SAY WHEN WE DO UDL TEXT AMENDMENTS, THERE IS REVIEW CRITERIA IN THE UDL.
SO STAFF GOES THROUGH, DOES THEIR REVIEW OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA.
AND THEN IT ALSO IS WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION USES WHEN THEY MAKE, I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE REV REVIEW CRITERIA, BUT STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
UM, DID DETERMINE THAT THE AMENDMENTS HAS PROPOSED.
DO YOU MEET THAT REVIEW CRITERIA 23RD, UM, PLANNING ON JUNE 23RD PLANNING COMMISSION DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE ONLY CLARIFICATION THAT THE DEFINITION OF FINE FACE ASSIGNED AREA, UM, WANTED THAT JUST CODIFIED AND HAVE STAFF JUST LOOKED AT IT.
LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
UM, WELL STAFF DID IS AFTER WE DID DETERMINE THAT DETERMINE THAT SIGN FACE WAS VERY SIMILAR.
THERE WAS NO NEED TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TERMS TO DEFINE THE SAME THING.
SO THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.
SO TONIGHT WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS THAT YOU EITHER APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, APPROVE IT WITH AMENDMENTS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED.
HOWEVER, IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE, YOU CAN, UM, APPROVE THAT WITH CONDITIONS BEFORE IT GETS TO SECOND AND FINAL READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OR TABLE IT, UH, SHOULD YOU DESIRE TO DO THAT AS WELL? GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THIS MOVE FORWARD.
THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN SECOND AND FINAL READING.
AND THEN, UM, SHOULD THAT BE APPROVED? IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.
THE, I HAD LOOKED AT THIS LAST WEEK, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT FIRST READING ON THIS.
SO CAN WE CHANGE THAT ON THE ONLINE AGENDA? MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
YES, I, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
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UM, SO IN BETWEEN WORKSHOP, WHICH I KNOW WE HAD, UH, I'VE HAD AN EMAIL AND I THINK I FORWARDED IT.I THINK STEVEN WAS HERE FOR US ON THE BILLBOARD ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY WAS HAVING.
DID Y'ALL TAKE WATCH OVER THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IRON CLAD TIGHT ON BILLBOARDS.
SO WE DO NOT ALLOW, WE DO NOT ALLOW OFF-PREMISE SIGNS, SO THAT IS NOT, UM, WE DO NOT NEED TO BE OKAY.
AND YOU COMPARED IT WITH LIKE APPARENTLY THE COUNTY HAD TO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? SARAH MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE THREE, A AND SECTION 3.21 ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 5.13 5.156 Q AND ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 9.2.
YOUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS AND WE'LL HAVE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.
[XII. Consent Agenda Items]
UM, WE HAVE SIX AREAS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THOSE LISTENING OR WATCHING FROM HOME.WE HAVE A HYPERLINK THAT TAKES YOU TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.
THEY DO A LOT OF AMAZING WORK, 24 7.
AND I REALLY THINK IT'S WORTHY YOU TO SEE EVERYTHING, UM, A TOWN MANAGER REPORT AND OTHER ITEMS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE PULLED FROM THIS CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE? SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, STEP OF SAYING AYE.
[XIII. Executive Session]
IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR CONTRACTUAL MATTERS RELATING TO EASEMENTS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE APPROVED BRIDGE STREET STREETSCAPE THIS ACT FOR YOU? 34 78, 1 LEGAL ADVICE FROM TOWN ATTORNEY PENDING LAWSUITS FOR YOU AT 34 78 TO LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.AT 34, 78, 2 AND PERSONALITY MATTERS REGARDING TOWN COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE, WE ARE GOING TO START BRINGING MORE.
WE DO HAVE THAT ORDINANCE THAT YOU CAN COME REMOTELY.
IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT I THINK MR. STEVE IS GOING TO WORK ON A PLAN TO BRING IN AT LEAST PUBLIC COMMENT, SCRATCHY NOISE DISCUSSION.
WE WANT TO HAVE ANY PROTOCOLS IN PLACE ON HOW WE DO THAT.
I'M THE EXPECTATION IS NOT THAT WE'RE HAVING JUST F THIS ROOM TOOK CAPACITY.
LIKE IT WILL BE THE GUIDELINES AS WE DO THAT.
AND HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT DECISION? I MEAN, I'VE TALKED TO WE'RE OUT
[XIV. Action from Executive Session]
OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.NO VOTES WERE CAST, BUT THERE IS THIS ACTIVITY OUTSIDE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION? ARTHUR IS THAT AUTHORIZING CHEST COMPENSATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR EASEMENTS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE APPROPRIATE STREET STREETSCAPE PROJECT WITHOUT NOW OF THE EASEMENTS IS $34,578 WITH A 20% CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR NEGOTIATION.
YOUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
THAT WAS A POST THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT JOSH SIMPSON TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.