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[Buckingham Meeting for Daufuskie Island Ferry]

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WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING FOR THE SHORT

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TERM. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT GOT US HERE TONIGHT.

AGAIN, I'M I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

YES, SIR. CONTROL ROOM HERE WITH THAT'S ALL.

HAPPENING NOW FEW OF US YOU'RE NOT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS PRIVATE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW THE RAMP. THERE'S LANDMARK THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A LANDMARK THAT THAT'S HOW WE USE IT TO GO NEXT DOOR.

THE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT ALL THIS TRAFFIC COMING AND THEY'RE GOING A HUNDRED RIBAUT IS ROUGHLY WHERE AND YOU'RE 100 MILES TO DRIVE IT OUT OF THERE BECAUSE WHERE I WAS UP BEFORE I BUILT THIS SURVEILLANCE COMMERCIAL PLACE I SAW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WELL IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT SITS ON THE EDGE OF IT.

SO TO TAKE YOUR PICTURE, YOUR POINT KNEW WHAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS.

YEAH. MY ANSWER IS QUESTION THEN ANSWER WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT THE VERY OFTEN FOR PROFIT DOWN ON THE GROUND AND OF THE ROLLER.

THAT'S RIGHT. TO HAVE PEOPLE FLYING DOWN THE ROAD.

YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. GET THEIR IT WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU WOULD NOT LIKE IT WAS. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE STARTS GOING THROUGH IT.

ARE YOU ARE YOU GOING LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION ARE YOU WANT I JUST KEEP TALKING.

OK. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M YEAH I GET EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE FERRY OPERATION AND WALKING AROUND THROUGH PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE ALSO AS A PART OF THE OVERALL COUNTY MATCHED OUR FACILITIES PLAN WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS DOING THAT FOR ALL THE COUNTY

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PROPERTIES TO TRY TO SAY HEY, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY COUNTY USE OF THIS PROPERTY THAT WE PURCHASED. HOW DO WE MAKE THAT WORK SO THAT WE PROVIDE APPROPRIATE OFFERING TO SET ASIDE THIS PROPERTY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT? AND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC ISSUES TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE AND DO WHAT? WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE YET.

RIGHT. SO BUT RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WE HAD AFTER YEARS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO. BUT WE HAD A PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT IF COUNTLESS PROVES THE PROPOSAL WE THINK WILL MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC AND PROVIDE BUFFERING AND PROVIDE THE SEPARATION THAT IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW THAT PROPERTY TO BE USED EVEN IF IT IS NOT USED FOR A FERRY. THERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME COUNTY USE OF THAT PROPERTY. THE SEA TRAWLER RESTAURANT IN THE FUTURE IN THE LONG TERM. DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL BE. AND WHATEVER WE DO WITH THAT PROPERTY THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN MY MIND AS A COMMUNITY PLANNER SOME ALTERNATIVE DESIGN THAT WILL DEAL WITH TRAFFIC ISSUES, PROVIDE APPROPRIATE BUFFERING, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND THE PARKING LOT IS UGLY NOW AND IT NEEDS TO BE REWORKED AND THAT'S WHY WE WORK WITH THE MARSHALL PLAN. FACILITIES PLANNER THE CONSULTANT TO WORK ON THAT.

YES, MA'AM. WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT HERE PEOPLE THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY YEAH WE'RE PRETTY NICE AND ACTUAL RIGHT. DO YOU REMEMBER THE MAYOR? YEAH. THEY THEY KNOW WHAT I MEAN HOW THEY'VE RESPONDED, MR. HERBERT ON THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. I'VE HAD SOME MEMBERS WERE NOT ON THAT E-MAIL RESPONSE.

YOU HAVEN'T THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE KNOW THAT THERE'S A HOUSE DIRECTLY THERE THAT WILL BE BLOCKED OFF BY THE PUBLIC IMAGE . I THINK IT LINE.

THAT'S MY MAN. YES, MA'AM. LET ME LET ME LET ME CLARIFY.

THE WIRES WENT TO GET A VERY FOR A BOAT DOCK A FEW A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT ISSUE. AND WHEN I PULLED UP THE G.I. S MAP THAT THE COUNTY EVEN THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS HIRED TO REPRESENT THE WIRES COULDN'T EVEN POINT OUT THE WAREHOUSE BECAUSE THE AERIAL PHOTOS HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED ON COUNTY DHS .

THAT TRIGGER POINT IN TIME BECAUSE THERE AREN'T WE DON'T FLY THE COUNTY EVERY YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY USE THAT TO COME OUT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LATEST DATA AVAILABLE IN G.I. S AT THAT TIME JUST SURVEYING IT DOWN THERE. NO, WE DON'T.

IT MEANS WE COULDN'T GIVE IT BACK TO THE MARSHALL FACILITIES PLAN BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE CONCEPT DRAWINGS. OUR LIVES HAPPEN. SURVEYS HAVE BEEN AT YOUR COUNCIL APPROVED YOUR DESIGN AND THEN YOU GO OUT AND DO THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND DO SURVEY WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I DID SAY DURING THE PRESENTATION I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I DID SAY DURING THE PRESIDENT'S MISSION THAT THERE WERE SOME NEGATIVE ASPECTS ABOUT THAT CONCEPTUAL DRAWING.

FOLKS DON'T SEEM TO RECALL ME SAYING THAT WHERE I DIDN'T POINT OUT THAT WE WERE GOING TO IMPACT TAX SALES TO A FEW RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH THE PROPERTY WAS PLAYING AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE PLAN WE GO WITH. I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S A CONCEPT DRAWING TO COUNTS ON THE IDEA OF WHAT STAFF PROSPECTIVE WAS AND THE CONSULTANTS PERSPECTIVE WAS CLOSE TO READ THROUGH FEAR MONGERING ON LANDING SO THAT WE COULD MITIGATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC AND SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING AND SOME OF THE PARKING IMPACTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS IF YOU LOOKED AT AND WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? WE'VE LOOKED AT A FEW CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO OUR THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT THAT WE'VE HIRED. WE CAN ASK THEM TO PROVIDE THOSE TO US BUT THOSE DESIGN THAT WE PRESENTED THE COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT I CAN PULL UP HERE FOR YOU AT ANY MOMENT. YES, SIR. YOU'VE HAD YOUR HAND UP FOR A WHILE. YES, SIR. HOW I'M NOT HERE.

YES, CORRECT. SO ON YOUR CONSENT FOR DRAWING CONCLUSIONS, DID YOU GO FROM HERE WITH THE PROPERTY? THERE'S A LITTLE STATIONERY STORE THIS UTILITY.

THERE'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT RUNS IN THE RED BACK IN THE THREE.

RIGHT. THAT'S THE PROPERTY LINE THAT ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DRAWING THERE'S OR 15 POWER OR THE SAME. SO ARE YOU GOING TO PLAN ON

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BUYING THE PROPERTY TO MAKE THIS WORK? NO.

AND A THIRD OF THE COUNTY THAT FACILITY THROUGH THEY WERE GIVEN INFORMATION ON THAT.

WELL, THEY BOTH WILL CERTAINLY GRAB IT ONCE THEY GET IT WAS GETTING AN ACCURATE ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANTED TO PLAY OUT AS WELL.

I I SAW WHAT HAPPENED. RIGHT. IT WAS PUT YOUR LIFE ON HOLD.

IT WAS CONCEPTUAL DRAWING BASED ON AN AERIAL PHOTO OF AN OVERLAY ON TOP OF AN AERIAL PHOTO FROM A G.I. ASH DRAWING. AND THE REASON IT WAS SKEWED A LITTLE BIT IS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IF YOU LOOK AT ANY IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF CASH DRAWINGS BECAUSE LAND IS ON FLAT NDIS GOING GOING A FLAT PLAIN SOMETIMES THE DEVELOPMENT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY LOOKS CLOSER TO A PROPERTY OR LOOKS OF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE DID NOT SPEND THE MONEY TO DO AN ACTUAL WAR PLAN THAT HAD DIMENSIONS ON IT WHERE WE CAN TAKE ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

WE JUST DID CONCEPT DRAWINGS THAT OVERLAID THE DRAWING ON TOP OF AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY OFF OF OUR G.I. S LAYER. AND THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS CUTE. BUT NO WE DON'T PLAN.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY GO WITH THAT PLAN ALL THE SETBACKS WILL BE MAINTAINED.

ALL THE BUFFERS WILL BE MAINTAINED. ALL OF THE THINGS WILL GET DONE APPROPRIATELY ONCE WE HAVE THE DIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS OF THE AGAIN OUR VOTES.

THEY'RE NOT VOTING ON THE DRAWING. WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON IS WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE WITH THE LEASE OF PAIN POINT AND ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE THE BERET. THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL VOTING ON THE DRAWING WAS JUST TO DO WHAT THEY THEY CAN PUT OUT THAT CHANGES SO YEAH BUT THE REASON I WAS ANSWERING HIS QUESTION ABOUT THE VOTE TO THEY'RE NOT THE COUNCIL IS NOT VOTING ON THE DRAWING THAT COUNCIL WAS VOTING ON WHO TO AUTHORIZE TO CONTINUE THE FERRY SERVICE AND THE LOCATION AT BUCKINGHAM LAND. THE KEY VESSEL TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT NEEDS MORE THAN THEY HAVE BEEN SEEKING INFORMATION TO HELP CLEAN IT UP AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT. YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY THAT AGAIN IN OUR NATION'S WAGE ABOUT EIGHT TIMES AFTER DRAWING OUR LOVE. WELL, I COULDN'T I COULDN'T GET THAT AUTHORISATION. WHAT IF A DRAW ON YOU TO DRAW HOUSE AND HOW YOU NOT GET THAT BACK? IT SOUNDED LIKE I JUST THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GETTING MOWED DOWN RATHER THAN ACTUALLY GETTING ALL THE FACTS GET THE DETAILS OF THE PACKAGE TOGETHER AND THEN MAKING AN EDUCATED DECISION. YOU KNOW, WE MADE AN EDUCATED DECISION AGAIN. SOME CONCEPTUAL DRAWING THAT DOES ILLUSTRATE ANYTHING THAT CANNOT BE USED FRAME COPYING STRUCTURE USING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST THE CONCEPT TO SHOW AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. ADELAIDE AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT'S EVEN SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE. IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THEY WE BUILD THAT AS A POTENTIAL OPTION FOR THEM TO CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH COUNCIL GAVE WEIGHT TO THAT DRAWING FOR THE OPERATION. I THINK BASED ON MY OBSERVATION OF THE MEETING THEY WERE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS PUT FORTH BY THE POINT PLANNING AND THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMITTEE TO GO WITH A POINT FOR THE FERRY OPERATION. YES, MA'AM.

IT'S A GREEN LIGHT. OK. SO I RIGHT.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL RESOURCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY STRAPPED. SO THE REALITY IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF SURVEY DATA THAT'S NOT RELEVANT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE ONLINE DATA THAT HAVE NEED TO GET UPDATED IN 10 YEARS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS WITH YOUR ACCOUNT. AND THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. RESOURCES HAVE TO BE DIVIDED WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS NEED ACCESS TO THE BEST THE.

THERE IS NO DISPUTE ABOUT THAT. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT BUT WE NEIGHBORS TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OVER THEIR HOMES. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 700 PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THEY NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO WHERE THEY RESIDE.

THEY PAY TAX DOLLARS AND IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO US. MY CONCERN IS TWOFOLD.

ALL RIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE INFORMATION THAT TO COUNCIL TO VOTE UPON THIS PROPOSAL BEING ADMITTED AND ACCURATE THROUGH NO FAULT OF WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

MAYBE THE VOTE SHOULD BE RECAST BASED UPON ACTUAL ACCURATE INFORMATION AND THEN WHAT? THERE'S ALREADY A COMPLETE DEBATE AND SO I'M I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE PROPOSAL

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THIS PARTICULAR VOTE HE STRUCK AND THEN RECAST BASED UPON ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT WE NOW KNOW IS AVAILABLE DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AT THE ONSET WHEN IT WAS THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND ALSO TO DO BACKGROUND ISSUES. ALL RIGHT.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY WHILE IT IS IN DIRECT POSSESSION OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL WHICH WE DO NOT DISPUTE AND CANNOT THEIR REAL RECORDS WOULD SUPPORT THAT HAPPEN.

THEY ARE NOT IN CONTROL NOR DO THEY OWN THE PUBLIC LAND WHICH MAKES THAT A VERY DIFFICULT FEAT FOR THEM TO CIRCUMVENT THE STATE'S OWNERSHIP OF THE SOLE HISTORICAL PUBLIC LANDING THAT GAVE RISE TO I BELIEVE THERE WAS A HURRICANE IN THE 70S WHERE THE USPS COULDN'T GET TO HILTON HEAD. AND THE ONLY WAY THAT ANY MAIL WOULD BE DELIVERED TO THE RESIDENTS AND PROBABLY HAD EITHER SURROGATE RESULT WAS THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE AWAY THE HALF AN HOUR LATER AND THEY WOULD BARGE THE USPS WORKERS TO HELP YOU HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THROUGH RAINS. NOW SPEAKER JOHN CONVEY ALWAYS DELIVER.

SO I'M I'M PROPOSING MIKE ESCAPE A POTENTIAL PAYMENT BASED UPON THE FACT THAT WHILE AGAIN THE COUNTY DOES OWN THAT PERSON, THEY DO NOT OWN THE PUBLIC LAND.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT RELATIONS ARE AND I HAVE NOT VERIFIED THAT BECAUSE THE RECORDS ACCURATE I WOULD DO ON MY WAY. OK. THAT WAS MY BRUSH THERE.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS SIMPLY THIS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN EMERGENCY ME WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPERATION TO INSIST ON FINDING BECAUSE TO YOU AND THEN POST MATTHEW OBVIOUSLY HAD A HUNDRED YEAR OLD PANDEMIC OK LIKE GET COMPENSATED AND I GET THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MANY MOVING PARTS AS AND WE RESPECT THEM BUT THAT ALL BEING SAID MATTHEW WAS TWENTY SIXTEEN IT'S TWENTY TWENTY ONE. WE ALSO HAVE A BRIDGING PROPOSAL THAT IS SET TO BE SLATED AND PROPOSED OUR NEXT MONTH.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WITHOUT HAVING ALL ACCURATE INFORMATION AT OUR DISPOSAL WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN TEMPORARY SUPPORT EXTENDS CHAIRS ARE ARE APPROPRIATE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. WE HAVE THOSE TWO POINT ONE MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT NOW WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT CREDITS GOING BACK AND FORTH WHATEVER I COULD DO WITHOUT COST TO THE.

RIGHT. WIN, LOSE OR DRAW. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW UP SOMETHING TO KEEP IT THERE. AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHY NOT CAST THAT VOTE BACK WITH ACCURATE INFORMATION AFTER THE BRIDGE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN ISSUED IN JULY LIKE AN ARTIST? I MEAN THAT'S A WELL YOUR REGION RIGHT HERE. SO LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRST VOTE. I THINK THAT'S A COMMITTEE VOTE. THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO FOR COUNCIL.

RIGHT. COUNCIL HAS TO TAKE AN ADDITIONAL VOTE TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY. THAT'S RIGHT.

TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE FOR AT THE NEXT PUBLIC FACILITIES AGENDA FOR SOMEONE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION GROUPS STAFF IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND TO REVOTE ON THE ISSUE AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WELL, LET'S NOT TALK CLOSE THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE.

YEAH, I JUST I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY. I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY ASSESSMENT THAT YOU KNOW THAT VERY RARELY IF EVER HAPPENS I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE OTHER REASON WHY YOU GUYS KEEP TEMPORARILY A TEMPORARY COUNTY TERMS MEANS TWELVE TWELVE.

WELL BUT FIVE YEARS I MEAN LET'S GET SERIOUS EMERGENCY MATTHEW HERE WE ARE IN JUNE OF 2021 FIVE YEARS LATER TALKING ABOUT. THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY.

AND NOW THIS IS TEMPORARY. I'M JUST GOING TO TRANSLATE THAT TO ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES JUST IN THE MUNICIPAL MOVEMENT TERMS. BUT I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IF THE BRIDGE WHICH IS SO INTEGRAL IN VERY FUTURE OPERATION AND HAVING HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY LITERALLY IN FIVE DAYS FROM TODAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS DIDN'T LEAD ON IT. IT'S NOT OBVIOUSLY COUNTY SLOW LIKE MOLASSES.

>> WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT WAIT TO VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL WHICH IS BASED UPON INACCURATE INFORMATION AND NOT BASED ON INACCURATE INFORMATION. BUT IT IS WHY NOT A VOTE? WHAT THE VOTE IS BASED ON. AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU EARLIER, IT IS BASED ON ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE PROPOSED BY THE PEOPLE THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS TO DO

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THE VERY OPERATIONS. THAT'S THE ONLY VOTE THAT IS TAKING PLACE.

THERE IS NO VOTE TO DO ANYTHING TO SEE TRIAL OR HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

THAT IS NOT A PART OF THAT. SO I CAN'T DRAWING THAT YOU ALL SEEM TO BE FOCUSING ON THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON WITH THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT THAT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE NEW PROCESS. AND I'LL GET TO THAT WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID WITH THAT IN JUST A MOMENT SO THAT THAT CONCEPT PLAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EVERYTHING.

IT'S SIMPLY ON SALE BECAUSE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED I THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED AND WHAT I WAS TRYING TO PROTECT AGAINST WAS COUNCILS SAYING WELL WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN POTENTIALLY RETROFIT? LET'S SEE. CALL A RESTAURANT TO DO A NATIONAL PARK IN AND TO PUT BUFFERS ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I NEEDED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO ILLUSTRATE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM TO THEM.

SHOULD THAT QUESTION THE BE BROUGHT UP DURING THAT MEETING THEY ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED HANDS . HOLD ON ONE SECOND. OKAY.

I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ASK THE QUESTION. SO THE ACTUAL VOTE IS ONLY ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO OPERATE THE FERRY SERVICE AND WHERE THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR.

YOU SAID THE COMMITTEE THAT MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO PAUL SELECT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT IT GO TO A STATE ONE WHO HAS THE CURRENT FERRY CONTRACT AND IT CONTINUE TO OPERATE FROM BUCKINGHAM LANDING. THAT'S THE ONLY VOTE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE.

THERE'S BEEN NO VOTE ABOUT RETROFITTING BUCKINGHAM RANTING ABOUT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE ROADS, ABOUT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE PARK AND ABOUT ANY OF THAT THAT WILL BE A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCESS THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT AND SECURE LAND PLANNERS AND ENGINEERS AND SITE PEOPLE TO DO DRAWINGS THAT WILL BE ACCURATE.

THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO CONSULTANTS THAT WORK IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA AND THEY COULD GET ACCESS TO IT.

WE HAVE GOT THAT. THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW HOW LONG YOU'RE ASKING SOME GREAT QUESTIONS. OK, SO IT'S KIND DIAL BACK TO THE PUBLIC THINK THE COUNTY GAVE TYPE OF PUBLICITY. OK. SO IN THE.

THE COUNTY OWNS THE PUBLIC FINE. YOU KNOW WHEN THEY ACQUIRED I DO NOT BECAUSE I READ YOU COULD SAY IT PRINTED IT AND WHEN YOU SAY WHEN YOU SAY DEED AND TITLE I MEAN THE IDEA THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE TIDAL SURGE, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY ON THE HOME, THE ACTUAL LANDING. WE MAINTAIN THE ISLAND. IF YOU LOOK IT ON G.I. S IT SAYS BEAUFORT COUNTY JUST LIKE YOU IF YOU LOOKED UP YOUR PROPERTY, ARE YOU ON RECORD AGAIN? YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S PROBABLY A HEAP HERE. THERE'S PROBABLY A DEED REFERENCING ON AND THAT G.I. IS MALECON OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD YOU JUST. AND AGAIN GOING BACK TO.

YEAH. YOU GET HERE AND THEN. RIGHT.

I MEAN LIKE TO BE COMPLETELY FAIR IF I SHOWED UP THE FEDERAL WATERS AND SAID THIS IS MY EXACT AND I'M PROPOSING IT AND I'M ENTITLED TO MY PROPOSAL. AND IT WAS BASED ON INACCURATE INFORMATION. I WOULD DO THAT THAT NOT SO I JUST WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ENTIRE PROCESS IF YOU CAN HELP ME SO I JUST KIND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE AND WHAT SORT OF BRANDS WE MAY BE LOOKING AT AFTER THIS PROPOSAL. YEAH.

SO TIME FRAMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THE HAY QUITE VARIED TO OPERATE FROM BUCKINGHAM LANDING ABOUT WHY YOU'RE ASKING ME. YES.

JUST THE NEXT STEP. THIS IS ERIC GREENWAY SPEAKING. DON'T I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL UPWARD. THIS IS THEIR GREENWAY SPEAK BECAUSE WE DISCUSS THIS ON THE WAY OVER TODAY AS A STAFF AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IF COUNT DECIDES TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT BUCKINGHAM LANDING AND KNOW WITH HAY POINT AND LOOK FOR A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION WHY THE TIME FRAME ON THAT WOULD BE. AND IF WE WERE TO ABLE PURCHASE PROPERTY TODAY OR TOMORROW AND START THE PROCESS YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A THREE YEAR PERIOD FROM THE BEGINNING TO BE ABLE TO THE HOW FERRIES THAT ARE THAT DO RIGHT NOW IT TAKE THREE YEARS DIVIDED THE SILK ROAD THE AVENUE WOULD TAKE THAT LONG TO GET PARAMOUNT'S AND BUILD NEW STUFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT DOING NOW. I MEAN WE HAVE AN EXISTING IT ALREADY HAS DOCK PERMIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITHOUT GETTING INTO A HEY JUST TO CLARIFY I'M NOT SURE I WAS CLEAR ENOUGH IN RE QUESTION. SO FUNNY YOU SAID THAT RIGHT? THIS IS MERELY THE PROPOSED

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SYMBOL WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL.

SO WHY I'M ASKING NOT TIMEFRAME WISE AS FAR AS I KNOW IT DOES WAY THEN WHERE YOU WOULD GET PAST THE OFFER BE I'M SAYING INTERNALLY FROM A COUNTY COUNCIL OR ADMINISTRATION PERSPECTIVE THE RIGHT OF THIS PROPOSAL WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THIS PROPOSAL COME TO FRUITION? HOW WHAT IN ONE MORNING AND ACROSS ONE MORE ROAD AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IMPORTANT THING? OH OK.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO LOBBYING FOR THAT AND FOR THAT TO OCCUR AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO SQUARE THE HOUSE ON KNOW STYLE. OUR JOB AGAIN IS TO RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL WHAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST SITUATION UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE WERE GIVEN TO WORK ON.

WE MADE OUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN AND COUNCIL THEY GET THE RIGHT TO BE POLITICAL AND TAKE ACCOUNT POLITICS AND CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND SAY HEY WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THIS. WE'RE LIVING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE TO DO THAT. WE GET PAID TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT WE REVIEWED, WHAT WE HEARD, WHAT WE SAW, WHAT WE STUDY, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION AND ONCE WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION COUNCILS AT LIBERTY TO DO WHATEVER THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE TO DO WITH SOMEBODY, HOW SO? 72 BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS A VIABLE SOLUTION YOU NEED AN 8 TO ONE NOT ROOM SAYING IT'S 3 TO MAKE IT A VIABLE SOLUTION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE YOU NEED 6 5 IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION EITHER WAY. SO WE HAVE ELEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF I'M NOT OUT THEN YOU NEED A MAJORITY OF WHOEVER IS PRESENT TO VOTE EITHER WAY. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? GO AHEAD, GET SOME QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. SO I THINK EVERYBODY HERE IS WANTING TO KNOW AS LATE AS LAST NOVEMBER WE WERE TOLD AND THAT HAY POINT THAT PTA MEETING WAS A GOB OF BIRDS ON WHAT HAPPENED THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO I WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED TO LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HAY PLANT BUT AFTER IT'S BEEN PUT ON HOLD WHILE WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAME MORE COMPLICATED.

COSTS WERE GOING UP, GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS AND AT THAT TIME WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS. WE MADE A DECISION TO WAIT UNTIL THE PROPOSALS CAME.

SO WE HAVEN'T STOPPED. I'M SORRY WE HAVE STOPPED MOVING FORWARD WITH IT BUT WE HAVEN'T SHELVED THE PROJECT YET . CLEMENTE PLANS.

I MEAN HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT SAID THAT EVERYTHING WAS A GO IN THE PLANNING STAGES WITH THE SURVEY WORK IN STORMWATER MINING AND ACCORDING TO YOUR TIMELINE SPREADSHEET THAT YOU CENTRALIZED EVERYTHING WAS ON SCHEDULE. YEAH AND WE HEARD NOTHING FURTHER FOR MONTHS. YEAH. LET ME LET ME ADDRESS THAT.

THE REASON THE REASON IT DID NOT GO ANY FURTHER IS BECAUSE THE PLAN THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED AND A TEMPORARY PLAN WITH THE PERMANENT THE TEMPORARY TO MY THAT TEMPORARY PLAN THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED DID NOT MEET COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO DID NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE FIRST ISLAND RESIDENTS AND THE FOLKS VISITING THERE.

SO THAT'S WHEN THAT'S WHEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT ARGUING A LOT NOW PLACES I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT ONE OF APPROPRIATE RESTROOM FACILITIES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO THE PROPOSAL PROPOSED THAT WE WOULD PUT IN PORT A JOHNS THERE FOR THE FOLKS TO USE AS PART THE EMBARKATION ONCE THE FACILITY WAS AN OPEN AIR FACILITY.

IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE WORKABLE FROM ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT FOR PEOPLE TO STAND UNDERNEATH THAT IN A GRAIN OF SAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BY THE WAY, WHEN WE EMPLOYEES ACROSS THAT THERE'D BE NO WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE DRY. AND RACHEL, I MEAN WE'RE JUST GONNA BE AN UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION FOR FOLKS TO BE THERE.

IT WAS GONNA BE VERY COSTLY. THEY'VE SAID THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ADEQUATE PARKING WANTS A BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION STARTED. THERE WAS GONNA BE A LAW KIND LOGISTIC ISSUES ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE. SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO GO OUT FOR THE RFP AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AUTHORIZED US TO DO THAT AND HOPES THAT WE WOULD GET SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO DEALING WITH THE ISSUE ON A RESPONSE TO THAT RFP THAT DID NOT MATERIALIZE. SO WE ARE ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS NOW WITH THE PRESENT CONTRACT PLUS GALLON FARE SO WE AS A STAFF HAD TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AS A

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RESULT OF THAT RFP BASED SOME MEDALS THAT WE GOT ON THAT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT THE COMPLAINT IS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE REGARDING FACILITIES. HOW IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT FROM THEIR FACILITIES CURRENTLY OVER AT THE NUMBERS? YEAH, THERE'S LEE AND LING AND EUNA TALK ABOUT THE CONCERN WITH THAT TEMPORARY PLAN TO TEMPORARILY TAME TECHNICALLY WHAT WE DID WHEN WE COME THERE WITHOUT NECESSARILY WAITING FOR THE VIRUS TO BE FIRED COMING FROM THE SHOP A TIME I MAKE IT THERE AN HOUR EARLY AND THEY SAY NOT COMING FROM MY HOUSE. I'M GOING THEM.

PEOPLE WERE I WAS BURIED IN THE MOST VISITORS THAT COME TO UNDERSTAND ME.

NO RENTAL PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. THERE ARE NO BATHROOM FACILITIES, MCCLUSKEY AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS CHANGING IN BELLINGHAM. HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO PUT SOME BATHROOMS ON THIS PRIVATE BOMBS ON THE PROPERTY THAT. THAT THAT YOU KNOW, WILL COST A MILLION DOLLARS IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEPLACE ALL THE PROPERTY ONE PLUS BEYOND THAT IS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN AS YET ONLY DIVIDED CNN CONSIDERATION. WERE THERE PRIVATE PROPERTY YOU SAID RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO HE HASN'T BEEN SEEN IF YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT. I MEAN I REALIZE THERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE BIGGER OR WHATEVER. I DON'T IMAGINE THAT ALWAYS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY SHOULD INFRINGE ON OUR PROPERTIES JUST BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ELSE. AGAIN, I'M NOT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AS A SPOUSE AND I DON'T THINK COUNCIL THOSE TRYING TO SAY THAT ONE GROUP HAS MORE IMPORTANCE ON THE ON THE OTHER. I KNOW THAT IT WAS I KNOW THAT. LET ME FINISH.

OK. I KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU ALL PERCEIVED TO BE HAPPENING. YES. YEAH.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN CONSULTANT TO TRY TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO WHERE WE CAN MITIGATE THE IMPACTS THERE TO MAKE THE PARK AND THE SITUATION BETTER TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION BETTER, TO PROVIDE MORE SEPARATE AND MORE VEGETATION BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BUGGING HIM LAND AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE USED IF IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE ANOTHER FOR WHAT WE THINK THEY ARE. THE PLAN THAT WAS DRAWN UP IS NOT RELATED TO CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS DRAWN UP IS UP RELATED TO FERRY SERVICE OPERATING FROM BOOKING AND LANDING.

HE DOES A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT FACILITY LONG TERM AS A COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY FOR ANY USUALLY COUNTY COUNCIL MAYBE MORE TO MAKE OF THAT PROPERTY AS A COUNTY ON.

SO YEAH. BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT WE DO THERE IN MY MIND FROM ON THE LAND STANDPOINT AS A WITH A BACKGROUND AS A COMMUNITY PLANNER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDESIGN THAT PARKING LOT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDESIGN THE FLOW TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN THE AREA UP A PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE CALLED FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE SMALLER BUILDING TO KEEP THE BIGGER BUILDINGS ON A ONE WAY DRIVE THAT WOULD HAVING A PARKING COMING IN AND SURROUNDING GOING BACK OUT AND THE NEGATIVE TO THAT PROPERTY OF US SAID MY PRESENTATION THAT COUNCIL AND NEGATIVE OF THAT PLAN WAS THAT IT WOULD LIMIT ACCESS OUT THAT FINAL ROAD AND TO THAT AREA THERE ARE CALLS FROM THE FROM THE SEA TRAWLER NOW IN FRONT OF THE WHERE'S PROPERTY AT THIS POINT.

AND IT WOULD ALSO TAKE AWAY AN ACCESS THAT THEY HAVE ON THAT ROUTE FOR THE VACANT LOT HIS HOME PROPERTY BECAUSE ALL THE TRAFFIC JAMS REALLY HEAVY. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WE GOT I MEAN IT COULD BE BUT ME AND I HAD NEVER SAID THE OTHER STORY ,THE MINE STORY THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY OPEN AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. OK. BUT WHAT I SEE IS YOU'RE CLOSE ON BOTH BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE ONE I THINK A PROPOSAL CLOSE ONE ON.

YES, SIR. YES. OKAY.

SO AS YOU PROBABLY WOULD TRY TO YOUR QUESTION IS A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE.

THE FERRY SERVICES WOULD OF TOWN PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS HAVE A CONTRACT TO PROVIDE FERRY SERVICE RESIDENTS LIKE OTHER TWO FOR TWO YEARS. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THE

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FERRY WOULD PICK UP PEOPLE ON THE BUS PEOPLE COULD HELP AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEN TAKE IT BACK TO SCHOOL KIDS BEEN ADOPTED OR WHATEVER BECAUSE IT IS THAT LEVEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. YOU DIDN'T SEEM THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ENTITY INVOLVED THAT OUT IT SEEMS, VICTOR. I WOULDN'T CALL IT A FANCY FERRY SERVICE IS A TOURIST BUSINESS. I HAVE JARED LEE LOUGHNER, THE COUNTY PROPER.

THE OTHER POINT MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO THAT I THOUGHT WAS SOMEBODY WHO WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE FACILITY AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY WE HE SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IT WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THE UP AND HE'S PROBABLY GOT MAYBE THEIR HANDS AND LANDED IN DOWN, YOU KNOW, PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH AND YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T WE USE THAT JUST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST BRIDGE AND THEY SAY WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S IT'S DISPLAYS OF PRIDE AT LEAST BY HATE FOR NOW ON THE INTERNET THINK IT'S JUST VERY HARD ON THEIR FACILITY APPROPRIATE TOUTED AS A PRIVATE COMMUNITY. SO HOPEFULLY THEIR PEOPLE CAN USE THAT VERY SERVICE LIKING IT SINCE LIKING IT THEY LET THEIR PRAYER SERVICE THEY'RE HERE AND THE TOURIST BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE CAN SEE THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THEIR DEAL OVER THERE.

WHY WHY IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER SUPPER WITH THE TOURISTS? WHY THE FERRY OVER THERE? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE COUNTY FAIR ? THE COUNTY FAIR? IS IT THURSDAY BOARD OR IS IT TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE RESIDENTS OF INSTEAD THAT THEY POINT THE BUS? RIGHT.

PRIMARILY IS TO ME NOT BACK OR FROM THE BUS THE ISLAND TO COUNTY PROBABLY.

SO RIGHT. NO ONE. BUT ONCE WE ENTER INTO THAT LEASE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN LIMIT TO A COMMERCIAL CHARACTER WHAT THEY CARRY. I AND THAT MAY YOU MAY BE ACCURATE ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S THE THING IT AFFECTS THE OR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S BEEN A PUBLIC MINIMUM WHO RAN THE PROGRAM IN THE PARK. I DON'T CARE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE. WELL, THERE ARE DUMPSTERS DAILY THERE.

SO I THINK WE DON'T LIKE IT JUST THE WAY IT IS EXCEPT FOR THE CONSTANT FLOW OF PEOPLE SPEED UP AND DOWN THE ROAD FROM ROOM TO TO MY POINT. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS ACROSS THE BOARD? NOT YET. WE'VE PASSED THAT INFORMATION FOR A LONG HERE NOT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WHY NOW HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION YOU HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE WAY MR. BRAIN. YES. TO ā– HOW YOU REQUESTED&-PINFORMA

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I DON'T I DON'T THINK I'VE SAID THERE'S NOTHING OVER THERE. PUNISH.

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I'LL JUST TELL YOU THE WAY I KNOW THERE WAS REALLY NO ONE ROVER I HAD TO SPREAD DID NOT

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GIVE A. AND THEY HAD A SLEDGE HAMMER OUT THERE ONE DAY.

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GET RID OF THAT CONFLICT AND DESTROY WHAT WAS. BEN MY DAUGHTER HAPPENED TO SEE

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A LITTLE OF WHO WAS NOT THAT KIND OF THEY'RE STILL HAVING TRUCKERS THERE.

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YOU CAN FAR AS I'M CONCERNED YOU NOT DESTROY. I'M NOT.

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I HOPE MY NAME IS JUSTIN. SHE'S GOING TO ANSWER ERIC'S QUESTION ABOUT HOW IT'S NOT

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KNOWN, HOW IT'S NOT COMMERCIALLY. YOU'RE RIGHT.

WELL, I'M SORRY. THEY WANT ME TO ANSWER YOU. THANK YOU.

THEY WANT ME TO ANSWER ERIC QUESTION. NO.

THEY WANT ME TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. SO THE REASON IT'S NONCONFORMING IS BECAUSE THE BUCKINGHAM PRESERVATION PLAN WAS ADOPTED INTO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND UNDER THAT PRESERVATION PLAN THE C TRAWLER RESTAURANT IS IDENTIFIED AS A NONCONFORMING PARCEL. ALL RIGHT. THE ZONING AND EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES NONE OF THE ABOVE PARCELS CONTAINS USES THAT CONFORM TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PRESERVATION LAND USE ORDINANCE. IN THIS RESPECT THE USES ARE CONSIDERED TO BE NONCONFORMING AND SUBJECT TO CERTAIN SPECIFIC CERTAIN LIMITATIONS.

NUMBER FIVE ANY NONCONFORMING USE SHALL BE CONSIDERED ABANDONED IF VACANT OR UNUSED FOR ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS ABANDONED USES SHALL ONLY BE REPLACED WITH CONFORMING USES STRUCTURES. WHAT PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE ? IT LOST ITS STANDING WHEN THAT SEA TRAWLER RESTAURANT CLOSED. IT LOST A STANDING.

SO IT CONFORMS NOW TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING OF THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION IN THEIR DREAM. WAS NOT EVEN EMPLOYED THE COUNTY THE DID SAY YOU WERE? YEAH. YOU ASKED NONRESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL BUILDING LOST ITS NONCONFORMING STYLE. IT'S STILL A COMMERCIAL BUILDING MOMENT.

STILL NO. IT'S A VAGUE SCHEDULE. LOOK, IT'S A LEGAL COMMERCIAL BUILDING IS WHAT IT IS AND I'M GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND PLAY THIS SLIDESHOW FOR YOU.

SO YOU SEE WHAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION. I ACTUALLY HAD PREPARED SOMETHING TO SPEAK. JACKIE WAS YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER THAN I WAS GAY.

YOU TALK ABOUT NATIVE ISLANDERS THAT SORT OF THING ARE THE ONLY PARTY AROUND.

THERE'S MY GREAT GRANDFATHER. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND HAVE HIS FIRST DAY ON HIS IN 1880? MY GRANDFATHER WAS BORN IN SPARTANBURG IN 1910. MY MOM WAS BORN 101 IN 1940 AND

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IT AND YEARS OF AGE. HER PARENTS BROUGHT HER TO THE MAINLAND BUT NEW SO THEY COULD GET A BETTER EDUCATION. IT BLOSSOMED. THE THIRD GENERATION BORN OR RAISED ON HER OWN FAMILY. MY MOM WAS SO YOU KNOW SHE WAS WORKING THERE.

SHE WAS 9. SHE JUST MADE SO WE'RE JUST ONE FAMILY, JACK.

HE'S ASKING FOR MY APPLE PRODUCTS AND HE'S ALSO A PRODUCT NAME.

WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES FOR A HUNDRED AND FORTY YEARS. MY FAMILY LIVED IN THIS COUNTY PAY TAXES IN THIS COUNTY AND I COULDN'T BE MORE DISAPPOINTED. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO HIM? YOU KNOW, IN THE TRAGEDY SITUATION IS HORRENDOUS. I STOPPED TAKING MY SON IN THIS YEAR TO VOTE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC WAS SO BAD. WRONG ALL THE WAY UP.

MY NAME IS LEE CULTURE. I'M A PERMANENT RESIDENT. IF I STAY UNTIL THEN, I'M THE ONLY THE COUNCIL AND MAKE NO MISTAKE. IF THE RESIDENTS OF THE MOST.

NO MATTER WHAT'S DECIDED TEMPORARY. IT'S NOT A WIN WIN SITUATION.

IF WE STAY IT'S IT'S NOT A WIN FOR US BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR YOU.

IF WE MOVE IT WOULD BE A WIN FOR YOU BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A WIN FOR US.

SO RIGHT NOW WE REALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS NOT A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR ANY GUY.

I THINK THIS THIS CONVERSATION SERIOUSLY POINTS OUT WHICH THE THE ISLAND RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST HOUR I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS NOW AND WE'VE JUST BEEN WORKING ON A TAX CUT ON TOP ALREADY. WE NEED A PERMANENT DEMARCATIONS IN OUR ISLAND. RESIDENT POPULATION IS GOING FORTUNATELY TO BE ABLE TO GET HIGH SPEED INTERNET SO THAT'S ALLOWING REGISTERED VISITORS. THAT'S THE DISTRICT I DECIDED TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ALLOWING US TO THIS YEAR. WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO THE PHILOSOPHY I'M A SPEECH PATHOLOGIST SO I WORK AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE SECOND YEAR I WAS THERE WE HAD SIX CHILDREN. WE WEREN'T EVEN SURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS. THIS YEAR WE HAVE 27 CHILDREN.

THAT'S PRE-K THROUGH FIFTH GRADE. WHAT I WANT TO FIND PEOPLE WE NEED TO DO THAT IN ORDER FOR HUSKY ISLAND TO HAVE A HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO. WE NEED ACCESS TO THE ISLAND. WHAT I THINK NEEDS TO OCCUR IS FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE EVERY COUNTY COUNCIL TO WITH ONE WORK ON A PERMANENT LOCATION FOR IT EARMARKED PATIENTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN 1985 THE SOUTHERN END OF PICNIC ISLAND WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE EMBARKATION CENTER FOR THE VARSITY ISLAND. AND THEN I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS THE NOW DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED AT SALTY FAIR IN THAT PROBABLY OVER 300 PARKING SPOTS.

THERE WAS NEVER A NEED FOR A PLANT IN MARLBOROUGH SO THEY SOLD IT.

IT WAS IT WAS SO ONE OF THE INVESTORS WHO OWNED THEIR PROPERTY WHERE THE 0 8 COLLAPSE OF THE MARKET OCCURRED SO LONG THERE WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASSETS.

SO WE GOT PICK ME I'LL LET YOU KNOW WE'VE ALSO GOT POTENTIAL. CAPTAIN RICHARD HAS CREATED A QUITE A LENGTHY OVERVIEW OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF JENKINS AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY WORTHY TO. I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR A PERMANENT LOCATION.

WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AND WE HAVE TO LOOK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE ISLAND ISN'T IT IS A COMMUNITY THAT WORLD. WHAT DO YOU FINISH AND THEN YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

IN MY OPINION, IF WE LOOK AT PICKING OUR JENKINS ON THOSE AREAS, GROWTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO DEPEND ON THE RECONSTRUCTION OF 270 SUGGESTIONS. IT'S A FACT THAT THE STATE IS LOOKING AT THAT RECONFIGURATION AND HOW IT WILL PAN OUT. I'M NOT SURE TO TURN LEFT OUT AT LEAST IT.

I'M NOT PROPOSING WE SAY IT BUT AT LEAST BLOCKING YOU CAN GET TO YOU AT LEAST POLO AND TALK COMING PICK ME UP NOW THINK SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WRITE TO FLEMING MEATWAD PLEASE CHECK ALL THAT YOU WANT. SO I THINK BEFORE MOVING TEMPORARILY OVER TO PICKING

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IRELAND AS FAR AS THAT THE PARTY ISLAND RESIDENTS IN THIS PART COUNCIL WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THAT CAN BE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION. WHY? BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE. THERE IS JUST NO WAY IT'S SAFE TO GET OUT.

YOU'RE STANDING IN A FIELD IF IT RAINS. NOW YOU KNOW WE CAN'T GO ON LIKE THAT NOW HANGIN. I'M NOT SAYING BUT YOU IS WHERE WE SHOULD STAY.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ISLAND, JENKINS ISLAND OR SOME OTHER PLACE WHERE WE CAN BUILD OUT AND GET 500 PARKING SPOTS. SO WE'VE GOT VISITORS THERE WHO SHOT RESIDENTIAL PARKING THERE AND THAT IS NOT INTERFERING WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANT TO STAY THERE ANYMORE. THEY WANT US THERE. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T WANT TO GO STAND OUT IN THE FIELD OR IT'S LIKE BEING IN THE WOODS. YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A WIN WIN RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT. I DISAGREE WITH WITH WITH MR. TAYLOR'S OPINION THAT THE RFA SHOULD BE. ABSOLUTELY NOT WITHOUT IT IT WAS FAIR AND EVERYBODY THAT WANTED TO DO THAT CONTRACT COULD HAVE DONE IT.

I DO THINK HAY POINT VERY COMPANY HAS PROVIDED AN EXCELLENT RESIDENTIAL VERY SERVICE FOR AN EXCELLENT RESIDENTIAL VERY SERVICE. THERE HAS TO BE A TOURIST COMPONENT. NO ONE WOULD GET ON WITH THEIR SERVICE WITHOUT THE TOURIST.

OTHERWISE WE DID TWO OR THREE RUNS TODAY AND WE GO THROUGH THE THREE BROTHERS A WEEK.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TWO MILES A DAY. CURRENTLY OUR LAST RUN IS AT FOUR O'CLOCK. IT TAKES ME SIX HOURS TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.

OUR BUYING ONE THING I'M NOT GOING TO GET THAT. I'M NOT SAYING I'M SENDING WE'VE GOT AN EXCELLENT FERRY SERVICE. THERE HAS TO BE A WORKS COMPONENT. WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS FOR US TO BLOCKING HIM LANDING TO A PERMANENT LOCATION. WE'RE JOINED BY CHAIRMAN. COULD YOU TELL WE'RE GOING REJECTION OF ALL OF THESE DAYS IS THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I THINK A POINT HAS BEEN LAID THAT NOBODY GETS WHAT THEY WANT.

I KNOW I HEAR OVER TIME OR YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE AGAIN LIMIT.

WHAT DID YOU DISCUSS IT? WHY DID YOU NOT HAVE RILEY DEMANDED YOU GIVE YOUR.

WHAT I THINK. HOWARD WHERE YOU THE DOUGLAS YOUR REVIEW I TOLD YOU THAT I WAS LITERALLY THINKING WHEN YOU BETTER TAKE YOUR. I WOULD THINK AND THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT THE OR MOVING ALTERNATES RIGHT HERE IS A COUPLE THAT HAS AN ULTIMATE BACK. IT'S A WATERED DOWN SCIENCE. YOU ARE ACTUALLY TALENTED.

I'LL BET YOU GET SAID IT. I DO. PEOPLE ARE REALLY SMART RALLIES AND THEY HAVE THIS WONDERFUL OUTLOOK FOR OUR HEROES AND OUR BIG TIME HERE MARKET IS THE PRIVATE INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL SOUNDED SO GOOD THAT WE CAN EVALUATE THIS WHOLE RELIGION DEPARTMENT OF PSYCHOLOGY SO I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT IS YOU'RE NO DIFFERENT AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN I'M READING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE HOUSE GETS A CHANCE IS DAVID SPARKING OFF THE CHART? I FIXED UP A LITTLE FISH CAMP AND I BOUGHT IT BECAUSE OF THAT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE IT PROMOTED AS A KID AND I'M FIGHTING OVER THE NEIGHBOR.

YOUR GO ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'M SURE YOU KNOW I BUILT HOUSES IN PEOPLE COUNTY. I HAVE TO DEAL FOR COUNTY BUREAUCRACY AND THEY FORCED ME TO HOOPS BUT NOBODY HAS A CURRENCY TO SEND ME A NOTIFICATION.

THERE'S NOT A STREET DOWN OR THERE'S AN IDEA SENT THE STREET DOWN NONE OF THIS AND YOU'RE GONNA GO VOTE ON A PERMANENT SO YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN IRRITATE YOU JUST RAN THROUGH ROOM.

I CAN DO THAT. YOU KNOW THIS LITTLE SHOVE ME MY DISTRICT DOWN OR ANYTHING.

THAT WAS SELF PLANTED OVER THERE AND TELL ME ABOUT IT IF I MAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER ANY OF THE LEGAL OR BUSINESS POINTS, BUT I'VE WANTED TO TRY TO SUM UP SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE TRYING SAY WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS ON WHEN THAT CAN HAPPEN AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR THE DIFFICULTIES TO GET BACK AND FORTH. THE PLUS I THINK WE HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS OVER DURING THE FIVE YEARS AND WE HAVE SUFFERED A LOT OVER THE PERIODS OF FIVE YEARS.

I THINK ON THAT BASIS WE DESERVE SOME GOOD SAY ON THE PART COUNTY AND ANYBODY ELSE IS LOOKING AT THIS TO LOOK FOR OTHER SOLUTIONS TEMPORARY WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOT TO BE A LIMIT TO TEMPORARY. YOU DON'T JUST GET BACK IF YOU TAKE THE WHOLE BOTTLE I MEAN YOUR WHOLE OF PEOPLE ON THE DANCE WHERE WE'RE HEADED TO WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.

AND IF YOU ADMIT THAT NOTHING HAS TEMPORARY THEN WHY WOULD YOU WHY WOULD YOU INVEST MORE MONEY AGAIN IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLANNING INDUSTRY? CERTAINLY A LOT OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO GET USED FOR SOME PEOPLE WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED VERY LEGALLY YOU'RE

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NOT ACTUALLY TO DO ANYTHING FOR HER PRIOR YET WHETHER TRUMP ON THE MARKET COUNCIL HAS A RIGHT TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING TO USE THAT FOR A GOVERNMENT SERVICE AND THAT IT SHOULD BE

RIGHT. >> SO YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE VERY OPERATIONS YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING YOU AND THE PROPERTY OF FLEA GET IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE ANGRY WE'RE HERE AGAIN. WE OWN PROPERTY TOO AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO WITH IT EITHER OR NOT AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT YOU CAN COME AND OPERATE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH OUR OWN PROPERTY.

SO I ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A COUNTER PROPOSAL FOR YOU OR A MARINE SCIENCE RESEARCH FACILITY TO OPERATE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT OR INTO THE COUNTY A FISCAL OPPORTUNITY TO RECOUP COSTS. I'M HAVING IT IN THE WORKS BUT I DON'T LIKE TO PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER THAT ARE BASED ON FICTION READING DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE EVERYTHING TO SAID.

NO ONE EVER COMPLAINED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WHEN I EVER WROTE YOU ON MY MIND ALONG WITH REDESIGNING THE TEAM SO THAT I NOW THEY WELL NOT UNFIT FOR COMMAND SO I WILL SEE THAT, SIR. BUT I HAVE TO DO MY HOMEWORK OR I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT I WAS WORKING TOO HARD AND I WANT TO LOOK FORWARD TO USING BY THE END OF THE BOOK.

YES SIR. THANK YOU. ANYWAY, I'M SO SORRY YOU SAID THAT IT WAS NOT A WAY TO MOVE BUT IN THE END IT'S ABOUT YEAH YEAH IT'S DONE.

I THINK BECAUSE THEY LAST THE SAME WAY THAT THIS IS WE HAD A SIGN OF SANDLINE WE IMPOSE A PRESIDENTIAL ORDER ON WAR AND THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT IT. WE'VE GOT A WEALTHY OWNER THAT'S BOUGHT SEVERAL HUNDRED ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT WANTS TO START CLOSING CALLED OKATIE.

THEY'VE GOT A REAL ONE. SO FOR US TO STAY THIS IS A WIN FOR THE PARTY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REVIEW RIGHT FOR US TO LEAVE. IT'S NOT A WIN FOR US. YOU KNOW THAT IS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO RIGHT DOWN UNTIL THE COUNTY COMMITS TO GETTING A PERMANENT LOCATION AND WHETHER IT'S ON MAKING OUT OR JENKINS ISLANDERS TWO REALLY GOOD IDEAS .

BUT WITH THE MOVEMENT OF THE RECONSTRUCTION 78 TO MOVE US OVER DIDN'T HAVE ROAD CONSTRUCTION THERE THERE'LL BE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND OH GOD NO.

I MEAN LOOK AT OUR CAR WALK OUT . I GO GET MY NUTS.

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH NEIL'S PROPOSAL? STEP ON WHAT?

WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM WITH NEIL'S PROPOSAL? >> HEY, A PERMANENT LOCATION IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE KNOWN AS WELL EITHER CHANGE IS A GOOD IDEA OR LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND

SEE IF THEY CAN. >> BUT WHAT'S YOUR ISSUE WITH MOVING TO NEIL'S LOCATION TEMPORARILY HERE? HILTON HEAD HARBOR MARINA IT'S A MARINA SHIP.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE NEXT TO ME AT THIS NUTS. HEY, HILLMAN HARBORS THE OLDEST MARINE. I DON'T HAVE FOR THE NORTHERN ROOM.

I'M TRAVELING GREAT WITH THE FIRST LINE JUST TO BASICALLY SIGN JENKINS ISLAND DOWN.

WHAT DOES SAY WE ARE ON TO DESIGN JENKINS EN ROUTE? I DEAL WITH THEM SO THAT'S A LOOK. YEAH SO I MET WITH THAT THERAPY.

EVERYBODY'S ASKING YOU ABOUT YOUR TRUNK. IS THAT WHERE YOU I MEAN IT'S NOT QUITE THERE YET. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S RIGHT.

FAIR ENOUGH. AND TRULY I SHOULD REALLY SAY PROBABLY AROUND THESE STEPS FROM THE CRUSTY RUNNERS, WHAT IS A WIN FOR YOU? LIKE WHAT DO YOU AS A RESIDENT OF ASKING FOR A FERRY SERVICE? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? SO WE CAN TRY TO FACILITATE THAT. LOOKING THE OTHER WAY WE CAN BECAUSE IT IS AS IT IS RATHER THAN WITH THE CELLS WE HAVE TO LOOK WHAT IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS AND OBVIOUSLY THE LOCATION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE LIKE I DON'T FEEL BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE FERRY SERVICE RIGHT NOW. THE FIRST FARE GOES OUT OF SERVICE TO THIS ISLAND BEFORE THEY CAN GET IT BACK. I'M I LOOK AT IT AS THE SHIP AS THE CHAIR FOR THE COUNCIL. I'M JUST SAY THIS IS WHAT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE PERFECT RIBAUT THE DAY BECAUSE IF A FERRY SERVICE PROVIDER DOESN'T SIGN IT THEN WE'RE OUT.

SO WHAT WE NEED IS PARKING I WOULD SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT 10 YEARS I WOULD SAY 500 PARKING SPOT MAYBE THREE RIGHT HERE AGAIN OR SOMETHING SMALL OVERNIGHT WORKERS RESPONSE THREE PARKING NEED A FACILITY THAT IS SECURE AND SAFE. THAT VISITOR I MEAN THINK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN IT COMES AND YOU CAN STILL GO TO DINNER ON SUNDAY

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BECAUSE NO ONE'S AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT HAVE VISITORS IN JANUARY FEBRUARY YOU DON'T HAVE VISITORS TO REALLY SHUT DOWN THAT MANY NOT RIGHT. YOU GET OUT OF THERE BY THE LOOKS AT THAT BACK. LA LA GRANGE THERE IS A TOURIST DESTINATION SHARPLY THEM GO TO SHOW TIME OVERSEAS AND SO THAT WAS A LITTLE SPRING BREAK IN THE.

FIRST AND EVERY OFFICE BEFORE I WENT DOWN TO STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A PARTY THERE.

SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A FERRY COMPANY THAT IS BY FAR THE EXCEPT FOR EXAMPLE.

THEY MAY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO CARGO AND VISITORS COME. YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE THAT BOAT ,EVERYTHING ELSE. THE GROCERY STORES THERE ARE JUST SEVERAL RESTAURANTS.

WE HAVE TO BRING EVERYTHING. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO THEM. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DOG THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THE BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SURFACE THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO MOVE THEM SUCH SUITCASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT GRAVEL ROAD BREATH IS IMPORTANT, DOESN'T WORK. SO SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHETHER THAT IS A COMPROMISE. BRIAN SO WE'RE GOING TO BE THIS IS.

I'M ACTUALLY REALLY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITUATION WHERE BOTH YOUNG RESIDENTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO COME A TOURIST WHICH WE HAVE MULTIPLE FACETS THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND WE CAN HANDLE THAT. SO JENKINS ISLAND WAS ABLE TO HANDLE JUST THE RESIDENTS GIVE A SECURE PARKING LOT WHERE THEIR ACCESS TO MIAMI BUILDING TO BEGAN EVERYTHING BAD TURNS.

EVERYTHING YOU REQUIRE I MEAN YOU COME EARLY THAT NOBODY WOULD RUN AFFAIRS OR IS NOT A TOURIST. I'D LOVE TO RUN A FERRY SERVICE FOR SEVEN DAYS SIX TIMES A DAY ON FIVE PEOPLE WERE HOT THREE AND A HALF. THERE ARE FEES TWO RUNS, TWO BACK TO BACK. SO I SCORED NOT ONLY TO GET WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE.

SO MY POINT IS THIS SIT AROUND REPRESENTING THE FERRY SERVICE THAT WE HAVE NOW IS EXCELLENT.

IT'S EXCELLENT. WE KNOW WHAT WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO RUN.

SO THE READ I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS TO BE TALKING ABOUT TO TO PUT THE FERRY EMBARKATION.

I WOULD PUT MY MONEY OR THE I OUT OUT ANY COMPLAINT THOUGH WE AGREE FUNDAMENTALLY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S MEET IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING THAT THIS WALKING LANDING CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE TABLE AND RIBAUT. DOES THAT WORRY YOU AS WELL AS OUR OWN? I THINK IT WAS IT'S A TOURIST AREA I THINK.

I THINK IF EVER YOU LOOK ANYTHING THAT'S ONLY HAPPENED AS A TOURIST ELEMENT WITH THEIR SMALL BUSINESSES ON THE PACIFIC ISLAND. SO WE CAN'T EVEN AGREE ON WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. YOU GO. I'M SORRY IF IT'S PAINFUL BUT YOU SAID REP. REPEATEDLY YOU HAVE TO NOT DO IT. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.

IT'S NOT A SO WE CAN'T EVEN AGREE THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING DISCUSSES A RESERVE.

IT'S NOT OUR OWN INTEREST. YOU WON'T TAKE CARE ISSUE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER IS THAT THEY'RE WALKING AWAY STILL HAS GONE WITH THE WIND TURBINES YOU THERE THERE ARE. HE ON HIM BUT IF HE RUNS IN THAT SO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE EITHER. WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE GOT. WE'RE NOT HAVING.

COUNCIL IS KNOWN FOR DRILL BABY . SO WE DID NEED TO HAVE OUR RFP IF YOU ARE TO GET THAT IDEA CERTIFIED PARKING SPOT IS PROBABLY ABOUT TWICE DECADES OLD. THAT IDEA THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE TWO ROUNDS A DAY.

THAT DOES NOT ALLOW PEOPLE THAT WOULD NEVER ALLOW THE FOLKS WHO ARE TO DEVELOP IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FROM YOU OFF IN WORK. WE'VE GOT ONE FAMILY THERE. IT REALLY LIMITS YOU THAT YOU CAN GET. WE HAVE A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YES. DAVID ISAY SO WE USE MY TIME WHEN SAYING WE NEED TO STAY AT BLOCKING OUR LANGUAGE FROM HAVING HIM OR MAYBE THEY ARE IN HIS COLUMN EARLIER.

WHY DID YOU AGREE? WELL, ONE OF YOUR MIND IS BY YOUR COUNT ANOTHER GREAT IDEA 10 YEARS WE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I THINK REALLY FELT. IF I MAY I WAS BAILED OUT BY 2005. THERE WAS SOME I MADE MY RIGHT .

I MEAN THIS IS GOING TO GO ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW FOR THE SAFETY AND THE WELL-BEING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW? YES.

NOW NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE AND I'M TALKING ABOUT TOMORROW NEXT WEEK. WHAT DO YOU DO NOW TO KEEP OUR

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NEIGHBORHOOD TO KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING DOWN, FROM URINATING IN PUBLIC? YOU CAN HAVE YOUR DOG PICK HIM UP A LITTLE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THOSE THINGS NOW? AND YOU KNOW, ADDED ON TO THAT NOW VINNY OKATIE SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ON IT. AND IT'S A TEMPORARY FIX FOR NOW.

OKAY. YOU TELL ME HOW MANY GOVERNMENT DECISIONS WERE TEMPORARY FIXES FOR ABOUT AND WHY FIVE YEARS LATER THEY'RE STILL ON THE SAME BASELINE AS THEY WERE FOR ALMOST. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL BASE HAVE YOU? I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE SOME MORE ON JUNE 14. AGAIN, I'M NOT I'M I'M JUST SPECULATING WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN AT 43. YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE SOME APPROVAL HAHA. OKATIE. ALL RIGHT.

WHAT HIM ON AND ALSO MOVING DOWN A DIRECTION STAFF TO SECURE A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION. EITHER HALF DEMON'S ISLAND OR PINKY OUT AND NOW THE PROBLEM WITH THE ISLAND IS A LOT OF IMPACTS TO THE ISLAND BASED ON THE POTENTIAL BOND 278 AND THREE MONTHS IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT THERE AND DO THEM THREE MONTHS FROM GET BACK HOME TO SEND IT OFF SAID. YOU HAVE TO IMPACT OVER A THIRD OF HALF OF THAT AND IT'S VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE SO THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST SOLUTION BUT I DO THINK PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS SOME EFFORT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE CURRENT PART OF THE WEATHER DIRECTION. WE'LL START TO SEE A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THE VERY OPERATIONS PLUS THE ISLAND IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND BOTTOMING OUT.

PERHAPS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE SAFETY AND ALL OF THAT STUFF RIGHT NOW.

BUT ONLY WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK IS FOR THERE TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT BOBBY AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ARE NOT CAPSULES OF WORK IN MY VIEW AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY MAJOR POINTED TO ME. I MEAN WHAT ARE THE MAIN PROBLEMS IS THE SPEEDY RIGHT.

CAN WE TAKE THE BEST LIKE THE HIGH VOLUME? CAN YOU TELL HERE THAT UNLESS YOU LIVE IN AROUND THE CORNER AND I LOOKED AND LOOKED AND LOOKED AND LOOKED AND IT WAS ONLY JUST WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT THERE WAS THERE WAS NO THERE IS A SPEED LIMIT SIGN BUT IT HAS IT'S RIGHT. THE PROBLEM IS AS YOU TURN OCCURS IT'S 25. BUT THAT SAYS 30, OK. WELL, I WAS A LITTLE ONLINE BUT I THINK THERE ARE LIMITS ON A MANUAL AN INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AN AUTOMATIC SPEED LIMIT OR EVEN POLICY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL OUR SHAREHOLDERS HAVE A GOOD OFFICIAL, RIGHT? I DON'T I CAN'T GIVE DIRECTIONS.

I'M WILLING TO. BUT I'LL REACH OUT TO THE SHAREHOLDERS AND ASK THEM TO BE THOUGHTFUL BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND UNDERSTANDABLY SO WHEN THE JERSEY SHORE COMPANY IS LIKE THAT SO WE CAN COME TO A SYSTEM THAT EVOLUTION. FIVE VERY, VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT REGARDING THE NATIONALS PROVIDING FOR DECIDED A CHEVRON AND THE WARNINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED BY SHAREHOLDERS OUT THERE PLUGGING ENGINES. WE GOT THAT REPORT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TODAY. DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT SIGNIFICANTLY TALKED ABOUT DALE TAKING PEOPLE OR ISSUING WARNINGS THROUGH? BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. I'M JUST TELLING ME WHAT HE HAS AND WHAT THE DAY TO DAY AND WHAT YOU WILL MAKE A REQUEST TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO FOOT PATROLS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE IF THEY CAN ASSIST WITH THAT DECLARATION OR WHATEVER SOMEBODY LIKE SAID LAST MAY.

I'M JOINED NOW BY ABRAHAM FOR A LARGER NUMBER TO MAKE THE RECORD.

YES, I DO MAKE THE REQUEST NOW. I'LL THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AGAINST ANYBODY.

SO THESE ARE NOT EXACTLY SOUNDING LIKE THE ADAGE IN THE SHADOW OF THE SUN.

THE ARROW HAS ASKED DOWN JOHN WHERE THAT WHOLE WATERFALL. I WALK INTO THE SHOES AND THEY WERE SURROUNDED BY GOD. TEAR GAS IS GOING TO EVERY NOW AND NOW YOU ARE SAYING WE GOT EIGHTEEN POINT NINE. LET'S SLOW IT DOWN. LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T KNOW.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DON'T KNOW CALLS IMPACT. I TELL YOU WHAT REPRESENT MY RIBAUT. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I THINK DOWN HERE I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL THINK THIS IS THE ONLY THING I HAD TO DO TO REMIND YOU HERE. YES, I DID.

I BELIEVE OTHER THINGS COULD BE DOING OUT HERE ANY TIME. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO DO. THEY CAME IN HALF AN HOUR AFTER THE FIRST MESSAGE TO MITIGATE

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THE DAMAGES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IMMEDIATELY. OK, KING COUNTY PLEASE REQUIRE PAID POINTS TO NOT HAVE TOURISTS DRIVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DROP OFF THEIR LUGGAGE. TURN THAT AROUND OUR BACK OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GOOD TO THE POINT TO PARK THEIR CAR AND THEN TAKE THE SHUTTLE BUS BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS THEIR CURRENT OPERATION. OK.

THEY HAVE THERE. THEY HAVE EVERYBODY COME DROP ALL THEIR BELONGINGS AND THEN GO RIGHT BACK OUT AND THEN RIGHT. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THREE TRIPS. MY SUGGESTION FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE ONLY THE PAST RESIDENTS ARE ALLOWED THE DRIVERS TO BEEN ABLE TO PARK INTO THE PARKING LOT AND UNLOAD THEIR LUGGAGE.

THAT PARKING LOT. THE FUSSY RESIDENTS ONLY TOURISTS GO STRAIGHT TO GREAT CENTER POINT. GET SOME SORT OF BAND OR TRAILER TO LOAD THE CARGO IN THE LUGGAGE IN AND THEN ONE SHUTTLE BUS AND ONE TRAILER COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PASSENGERS AND CARGO. WE CAN BE THAT WOULD SEVERELY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF HORRORS ON OUR. WE CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST SIGNAGE OVER THE ROAD TO RESCUE OUR WEB SITE. I'M SORRY ACTUALLY TO SAY THAT THIS WAS ONLY THE FIRST FEW RESIDENTS MAY DRIVE THEM TO AND THAT WAS TO WORK WITH YOUR TEAM ON THE CHALLENGE AND TRY TO AWAY THERE AND EXECUTE. GOING TO TAKE IT ALL THERE WEB SITE DIRECTING PEOPLE TO DRIVE DOWN TO THE WHEEL WELL THEY HAVE A 400 WEB SITE FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE THAT REQUEST TO ONE OF THESE PEOPLE DOWN HERE AND A MUCH HIGHER SHARE THERE.

THANK YOU. GOOD SUGGESTION DIRECTION AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SUGGESTED BY ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC FACILITY AS A YES MAN.

JUST BEFORE IT'S THREE POINT FIVE WEEKS, RIGHT? HEY, DID YOU FOLLOW ME? I WENT TO EVERY HEARINGS BUT WE DIDN'T. IT WAS SUPER WITHOUT OUT MANAGER UNDERSTAND WHEN THE COUNTY FOUND THE BRANCH ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FOUND OUT ONE. AND THIS SO IT SEEMS LIKE AND THAT RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE RIGHT. AND I'M SURE I IF I GET ON I ALSO HAVE.

I'VE BEEN ON I WILL BE YOUR FIRST I VARIOUS INFORMATION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION.

BUT WE NOT AS A ZONE OFFICIAL THAT TELL YOU TELLING COUNCIL THAT CURRENT ZONING BODY WAY DOES NOT ALLOW A FERRY OPERATION AND NOW I'M ON THE SIDE OF BEING AN INDICATOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO A LONG TERM PROBLEM THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO RESOLVE BECAUSE OF PROBABLY A BUDDHA SITUATION OVER HERE THAT IS NEGATIVE IMPACTING YOU ALL PERMANENTLY. BUT IF WE DON'T MANAGE RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PEOPLE THAT LOST THE ISLANDS. AND I'M TRYING TO BALANCE THAT OUT AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU ALL NIGHT.

SO ARE YOU CONCERNED? I'M SURE COUNCIL APPRECIATES YOUR INPUT AND YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT SUBJECTING YOUR CONCERNS AS YOU ARE. TOM TAYLOR AND I WE ARE NEVER ON THE SAME SIDE AS IN THE ISSUE. WE HAVE A LOT OF MUTUAL RESPECT FOR EACH OTHERS. ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? GREAT.

HE ANSWERED MR. TAYLOR. I'M SURE I WILL SEE HIM AT SOME ONE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ISSUE WITH OBAMA. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM AS THE INDIVIDUAL AND AS AN ATTORNEY AND PEOPLE WOULD TELL ME THE SAME THING ABOUT ME AS A PLANNER AND AS AN ADMINISTRATOR. NOW AS AN INDIVIDUAL AS WELL. SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU TO DOWN TO YOU THEY ARE REPORTING THEY WANT YOU ALL.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OUT AND IN TWO HOURS OF YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

AND WATCHING YOUR CONCERNS AND WE'LL TRY TO CRAFT AN APPROPRIATE PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU AS FAR AS COUNCIL REPRESENTATION GOES, WE ARE DEALING WITH THE FINEST COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES THAT OTHER AN VERY VOCAL ON NEARBY AND CERTAINLY IN ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE VERY GOOD WHAT THEY NEED TO DECLARE THE STATE WHERE THEY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS WILL BE A MOMENTOUS DAY AFTER SOME.

WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT. WE'RE GOING YOU ALL TO DO THAT. FEEL FREE TO USE THOSE FACILITIES ON THE WAIVER AND GO AHEAD

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.