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AD HOC RESULTS COMMITTEE ON JUNE 1ST JUNE. >> SORRY ANTONIO WE MEET ON WEDNESDAYS. I WAS WRONG JUNE 2ND. YEAH IT'S WEDNESDAY.

YEAH. SO I WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT JUNE. IF THAT AT ELEVEN LET'S SEE

ELEVEN O TWO SO I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. >> THAT MEETING HAS BEEN NOTICED THE MEDIA HAS BEEN NOTICED AND I BELIEVE. COUNTY CHANNEL IS BROADCASTING GRASS MA'AM. YES. OK.

SO LET'S PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> POLITICAL ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

FOR ALL WE DID IT LIKE A CALL BACK. I KNOW I KNOW OUR.

[Approval of Agenda]

>> SO THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA THAT WE APPROVED THE AGENDA. OK, BEFORE WE DO THAT AT THE APRIL 7 THE WRONG MINUTE MEETINGS ARE LISTED HERE. SO WE NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA MINUS THE APRIL 7TH COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES. WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE. RIGHT.

YES. THIRD TIME'S A CHARM. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH REMOVAL OF ITEM D THE APRIL 7 20 21 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.

I'LL SECOND THAT. >> ANY COMMENTS? ANY DISCUSSION? OK. AND ALL IN FAVOR I. 2 0 IS MOLLY ON?

>> I SEE YOUR NAME THERE. MAYBE JUST STEP UP. >> SHE JUST STEPPED OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR A MINUTE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SHE COULD REACH OUT TO MR. CAMPBELL

MAYBE. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. OK. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[Review the Current Results Section and Discuss Possible Changes.]

SO MR. FALLIN, YOU'RE UP. LET ME JUST READ YOU WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING

SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES HERE. >> AGAIN, WE DECIDED PREVIOUSLY TO SET ASIDE THE CURRENT ACADEMIC RUBRIC AND SET IT ASIDE THE TEACHER RETENTION PORTION OF THE CURRENT EVALUATION SYSTEM. WE DISCUSS SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OR A RUBRIC SO THAT THAT REFLECTS HIGH EXPECTATIONS, USE OF DATA ,CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT SOMETHING THAT THAT ACKNOWLEDGES DR. RODRIQUEZ AS WORK TOWARD USING DATA TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARD PUTTING

PROCESSES IN THAT TYPE OF THING. >> SO THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED.

SO DANIEL, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE HAVE YOU AND DR. RODRIGUEZ BEEN ABLE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING? WE HAVE NOT HAD A FORMAL DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING. WE'VE KIND OF BEEN PULLED IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS SINCE OUR MEETING. WE DID TOUCH BASE BRIEFLY THIS

MORNING ABOUT SOME THINGS AND SOME THOUGHTS. >> BUT JUST REALLY EVERYBODY CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. CALL US HURTS ALL DIE.

I COULD BARELY HEAR SO. SO PART OF THAT WAS AND IT'S PARTIALLY IT'S PRICE SOME OF MY CONFUSION SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME IF I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON ON WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS MAYBE VERSUS WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S THAT HAPPENS.

IS THIS CIRCLING AROUND FOR THE 20 21 EVAC THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FALL OR IS THIS THE FUTURE PLANNING FOR 21 22 THAT HAPPENS NEXT FALL. SO THAT'S WHERE MY CONFUSION COMES IN. SADLY. WELL, I.

MY IDEA WAS THAT WE NEEDED SOMETHING TO PUT IN PLACE FOR THIS FALL TO SINCE WE WERE TAKING THE CURRENT ACADEMIC RUBRIC. AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE THE WORK GOING FORWARD WOULD BE ANOTHER TOPIC. BUT I I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CHARGE OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO HAVE THE EVALUATION INSTRUMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE THIS FALL IN OCTOBER TO HAVE SOME DECISIONS MADE ABOUT IT.

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SO THAT WAS I THINK I'M IN SOMEWHAT OF THE SAME SPOT THEN. OKAY.

YEAH. SO WHEN LOOKING AT ALL POTENTIAL WHAT WE COULD USE AS RESULTS FOR THE RESULTS INDICATOR THEN ARE THE ACADEMICS IS REMOVED.

THERE'S REALLY NOTHING COMING OUT OF MY SHOP RESULTS WISE THAT I HAVE ANY TYPE OF COMPARISON TO A PRIOR OR TO AN EXPECTED OR AN ANTICIPATED. SO PART OF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WHEN WE TOOK OUT THE ACADEMIC COMPONENT THAT WE WERE ALMOST SAYING THAT WE WEREN'T EVEN GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWNS THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THE ACADEMIC TESTS THAT WE'RE LOOK TALKING ABOUT TEST SCORES AND INSTEAD I THOUGHT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT PROCESS FORCES HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND WHAT IMPLEMENT WHAT

THINGS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED THAT WE CAN MEASURE. >> ARE THERE ARE THERE STRATEGIES OR IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES THAT COULD BE MEASURED TO SOME KIND OF PREDICTIVE FLOW OR AT LEAST TO SAY THAT SOME CHANGES ARE BEING MADE OR SOMETHING'S BEING DONE DIFFERENTLY TO GET TO DIFFERENT RESULTS? ACADEMIC DATA RESULTS.

INGRID. WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE ON IT? I GUESS MY THOUGHTS WERE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SO ONE QUESTION. WELL, ONE THING I THINK IS THAT LOOKING AT THIS INSTRUMENT FOR THIS YEAR WHICH IS AN EXCEPTIONAL YEAR.

BUT ALSO WITH AN EYE TOWARDS THE FUTURE. RIGHT.

LIKE IT WASN'T JUST A ONE OFF AND THEN WE GO BACK TO WHAT WE HAD.

BUT YOU KNOW, A PROCESS OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE TENANTS LEADERSHIP THAT THIS DISTRICT IS WORKING ON THE HIGH EXPECTATIONS CULTURE OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE USE OF DATA. AND IF WE COULD USE THAT THOSE THREE PARADIGMS AS A LENS WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTING OR AND OR USEFUL WOULD BE TO SAY WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THIS YEAR THAT REALLY THAT THE DISTRICT WAS AFFECTED BY.

SO YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET THE ARE FUNDING THE COVERT RESPONSE, THE RETURN FACE TO FACE LEARNING THE YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS. CAN WE JUST TAKE THOSE THINGS OUT SEPARATELY AND LOOK AT THEM THROUGH THE THOSE THREE ATTRIBUTES OF LEADERSHIP? WOULD THAT BE A REASONABLE ENOUGH INSTRUMENT THAT WOULD SATISFY EVERYBODY SOMEWHAT OF A

THOUGHT OF A CAUSE AND EFFECT TYPE COMPONENT? >> I MEAN SCORE ON THAT IN THOSE AREAS IN THE THINGS THAT REALLY SUPERINTENDENTS NATIONWIDE HAD TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, STAFF RELATIONSHIPS, LABOR ISSUES AS FAR AS THAT RETURN TO FACE TO FACE I THINK IS HUGE. PASSING A BUDGET USE OF S OR FUNDING OFF THE TOP MY HEAD.

YOU KNOW THE VIRTUAL VERSUS THE HYBRID. >> RIGHT.

BUT THE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS WHAT WAS EXPANDED? SO ALL THE ALL.

>> SO TAKE TIME TO FORMULATE A LIST OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED AND THEN MEASURE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE RESPONSE TO AND WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS. I FIND THAT SUPER SATISFYING FOR US TO BASICALLY AN ENEMY IF IT WERE JUST ME, IF IT WAS LIKE YOU KNOW, YOU YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF EVALUATING THE SUPERINTENDENT AND I KNOW I HAVE A DIFFERENT TAKE THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. SO MY POINT OF VIEW WOULD BE I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'RE REALLY CRITICAL THAT REQUIRED LEADERSHIP AND LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE LENS THAT THE DISTRICT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

AS YOU KNOW, THE PILLARS OF LEADERSHIP AND I WOULD ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SCORE SO HAVE PEOPLE SCORE MAYBE A ONE TO FIVE THING AND COME UP WITH A METRIC FOR THAT.

AND THEN ONE THING I THINK THAT I SENT AN ARTICLE WAY BACK WHEN ABOUT CEO LEADERSHIP.

ONE THING THEY THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A CEO SITUATION IS TO HAVE LIKE THE PRINCIPALS INVOLVED NOT JUST THE BOARD BECAUSE WE ONLY SEE ONE SLICE OF ALL THAT . I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD EVER CONSIDER BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING METHOD HAVING NOT JUST THE BOARD SCORE BUT SORT OF YOU KNOW, THE MID MANAGEMENT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM

LIKE A TRADITIONAL CORPORATE STRUCTURE. >> BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

THAT'S JUST MY WILD HAIRED IDEAS. WELL, I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT NOW BECAUSE OF THE OTHER LAYERS THAT WE'VE ADDED LIKE DR. BRADLEY. YOU KNOW, SO THE PRINCIPALS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH I WOULDN'T

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SAY DAY TO DAY CONTACT WITH DR. RODRIQUEZ AS THEY HAD IN THE PAST.

BUT I THINK THOSE ARE I THINK THOSE INGRID ARE DISCUSSIONS TO TURN OUT FOR GAMBLERS THEORY.

>> I THINK THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS NOT FOR FOR THIS ONE.

I REALLY MY MY FEELING IS OUR JOB THIS COMMITTEE'S JOB IS TO GET THE EVALUATION AGREE UPON FOR THIS OCTOBER WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE CHANGES OR WE ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE CHANGES. SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE LANDED AT LAST TIME WAS WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT THE PILLARS OF LEADERSHIP AND FINDING A WAY TO MEASURE THOSE.

SO IF WE I THINK AT THIS HOUR RULE PERHAPS FOR THE CURRENT RUBRIC THAT WE USE DANIEL HAS FLOOR RIGHT. I WOULD GO BEYOND FOR I THINK WE NEED TO USE THE SAME FOR WHAT BUILDS FOR ATTRIBUTES ON THE RUBRIC FOR SCORES. IT'S A ONE, TWO, THREE.

ALL RIGHT. RIGHT. OK.

WHICH I THINK IS FUN. YEAH, HE'S A 4.0 A B TO KNOW WHAT I THINK? I THINK THIS IS BECAUSE I MEAN THE HE DOES HAVE THE END GOAL IS WHAT 21 20 LOOK LIKE.

SOMEWHAT REWRITING THE EVALUATION AFTER IT'S AN AGREED UPON COMING TO A CONSENSUS ON AGREED ON A TOOL BUT THEN THE NEXT STEP IS THE 21 22 AND FORWARD.

I DON'T SPEAK FOR DR. RODRIGUEZ ANYWAY BUT I THINK THIS IS GETTING INTO THE PROCESS THIS COMPONENT OF WHAT HE COULD DO FOR 20 21 SQUARE. SO.

SO I JUST MADE NOTES LIKE YOU KNOW, LEARNING IN FACT STUDENTS HOW THAT WAS ANALYZED, WHAT WAS DONE. VIRTUAL HYBRID PLANNING AND THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT AS S REFUNDS WHERE YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOW. HOW MUCH DID THE DISTRICT RECEIVE? HOW DID THE DISTRICTS UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS? WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED OUTCOME OF THOSE? THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS? SAME THING AS VIRTUAL HYBRID. WE STARTED THE SCHOOL YEAR VIRTUALLY FOR 21000 STUDENTS.

WE THEN MOVED TO A HYBRID AND WE THEN MOVED IN SECOND SEMESTER TO ALLOWING CHOICE OF IN-PERSON FULL TIME. WHAT DID THAT TAKE TO IMPLEMENT? HOW WAS IMPLEMENTED AND WAS IT DONE SUCCESSFULLY? I MEAN I WAS PRETTY EASY.

I MEAN WE'RE HERE NOW IN JUNE AND WE'RE STILL OPERATING IT SUCCESSFULLY.

THE LEARNING IMPACT YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS THAT THE 2.0 THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM WAS IMPLEMENTED FOR STUDENTS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT DO YOU DO IN RESPONSE OF AND THEN WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE DESIRED OUTCOME OR IF WE ALREADY HAD IT, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME? SO YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT SOLELY DR. RODRIGUEZ TO MAKE THE LIST OF THINGS. THE LIST. YEAH.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I WAS LIKE IF WE SPEND THE NEXT LITTLE BIT TALKING ABOUT DON LIST THEN THERE'S THE ENTIRE ACHIEVEMENT OR THE RESULTS PART OF COMING OUT TO DR. RODRIGUEZ SAYING YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED AS THE 20 21 COVID 19 TOPICS.

THERE'S THREE QUESTIONS ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM. THEY WERE ACTUALLY THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE ANTICIPATE. YEAH, SOME OF THEM YOU KNOW YOU KNOW CHALLENGES IS ALWAYS LOOKING AT KIND OF THINGS THAT CAN KIND OF SOUND NEGATIVE.

BUT REALLY SOME OF THIS HAS TURNED AND OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, SO MUCH CHALLENGE AND OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED TO YOU DURING THE 20 21 SCHOOL YEAR. AND WHAT DID YOU AS THE YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF INSTRUCTIONAL LEADER OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT DID YOU DO? I THINK IF WE I THINK INGRID YOU MENTIONED STAFF TO TEACHERS AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE I MEAN WHAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT PROVIDED DAYCARE FOR THEIR TEACHERS AND MENTAL HEALTH.

>> YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW THAT OTHERS DID THAT.

>> AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HIGHLIGHT AND SAY LOOK, WE STEPPED UP DR.

RODRIGUEZ YOU KNOW, TO ME I GUESS HE HAS MY LIST THAT I'VE GOT SO FAR AND IT LINES UP WITH DANIELS FOR THE MOST PART LEARNING LOSS HOW WE ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW HOW TUTORING AND THEN STAFF RELATIONSHIPS WHICH I THINK YOU KNOW UNDERNEATH THAT FALLS LIKE YOU SAID MENTAL HEALTH BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO YOU DON'T WANNA GIVE THE EVALUATION AND THEN FIT THE DATA TO IT RIGHT? IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS IMPRESSED WITH WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD AND WE WENT TO FACE TO

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FACE IS HE WENT AND MET WITH TEACHERS THAT WERE WORRIED LIKE SAT DOWN TALK TO HIM, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STAFF RELATIONSHIPS. I THINK THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW IS IS IT IS ONE ISSUE AND THEN ESSER IS ANOTHER ISSUE.

I THINK WE WE DON'T HAVE TO SEPARATE THEM OUT. BUT I THINK THOSE ARE TWO PIECES. YOU SAY VIRTUAL HYBRID ME THE THING THAT'S GOT TO BE IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S SO ESSENTIAL TO EVERYTHING ELSE IS RETURNED TO FACE TO FACE.

RIGHT. LIKE THAT'S WHAT ALL THAT YOU KNOW HOW WE HANDLE THAT TRANSITION. AND THEN ANOTHER PIECE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT IS HOW WE COMMUNICATED WITH THE PUBLIC AND ENGAGE THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT.

YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING, WHY WE WERE DOING IT. AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AN IMPERFECT PROCESS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF THE THREE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE CAN I THINK ASSESS YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE WAS JUST THRILLED.

BUT THAT'S BUT IT'S ALSO SORT OF DID IT MEET THE CRITERIA HIGH EXPECTATIONS, ACCOUNTABILITY AND USE DATA AS OPPOSED TO DID EVERYONE LIKE THE COMMUNICATION? DID EVERYONE FEEL YOU KNOW, AS A PARENT I KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE WHAT ARE THE METRO THAT KIND OF THING. BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO FEEL THAT IN.

SO THOSE ARE THE FIVE THINGS I'VE GOT OFF THE TOP MY HEAD THAT I THINK WERE CRITICAL.

THIS YEAR IT'S HE HAS BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THINGS THE PHRASE SO COMMUNITY SO FAR AS WHAT I'M THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH HIM ON THE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M HEARING TO EARL AND I THINK WHAT I WANT WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T SAY WELL, I DIDN'T LIKE THE COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE THAT WE

WENT ALL VIRTUAL. >> I DIDN'T LIKE THAT WE WERE YOU BUT LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE LENS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I THINK THEN WE CAN ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN I THINK THE COMMUNICATION THE PUBLIC THE BIG THING WAS WHEN THE MASS THAT NIGHT WE HAD A ROBO CALL AND PEOPLE WERE INFORMED.

I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DO YOU LIKE THE COMMUNICATION OR DO YOU WRITE A

COMMUNICATION SUFFICIENT? >> YOU MIGHT KNOW HARD CHOICES. RIGHT.

SO I WANT TO SAY. ONCE THE DECISION WAS MADE IT WAS NOT WAVERED.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW AS A PARENT OF A STUDENT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT I LOOK FOR. I LOOK FOR STABILITY ESPECIALLY IN THIS TYPE OF YEAR.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING AS A PARENT ALONE, NOT A STAFF MEMBER, WE HAD THAT WHEN A DECISION WAS MADE. THE DECISION WAS MADE. FOLLOWED BY THAT.

>> I THINK DR. RODRIGUEZ WAS GOOD ABOUT USING THE DATA HE HAD AT THE TIME TO DECISIONS.

AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD COME BACK AND SAY BUT YOU SAID THIS BEFORE AND HE SAID YES, BUT I KNOW MORE NOW. YOU KNOW, THE DATA HAS CHANGED. AND SO I THINK YEAH, I THINK MAYBE IF WE TAKE THESE TOPICS AND WE PUT IN A BOARD RELATIONSHIP ONE AS WELL, YOU

KNOW, I THINK THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. >> I MEAN IF YOU LOOK IN OUR POOR RELATIONS THERE, ARE WE ADDING THESE OR SUBSTITUTING OR YOU KNOW WELL, I THINK THESE

WOULD BE. >> ROBIN, DO YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PULL IT?

>> GARY TO PULL IT UP NOW GO ROBIN GO OR DOCS ACTIVATE A MATRIX MATRIX BECAUSE THE CATEGORIES OF PROFESSIONALISM FOR STEWART FOR SUPERINTENDENTS YOU KNOW THE GENERAL CATEGORIES

NO ONE IS BORED RELATIONS COMMUNITY THOSE. >> IT IS SLOW BUT LOADING OK

SHARE SCREEN. >> SO WE HAVE CAN SEE IT. >> YEAH SO THE FIRST ONE IS GOVERNANCE AND BOARD RELATIONS. YEAH THEN WE HAVE COMMUNITY RELATIONS.

>> THEN WE HAVE STAFF RELATIONS AND THEN WE HAVE BUSINESS AND FINANCE STRUCTURAL LEADERSHIP.

>> I THINK THAT'S IT. >> THAT WAS IT. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WE'VE

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GOT ON MY LITTLE LIST. AND DANIEL THIS FITS INTO THOSE CATEGORIES.

THE QUESTION IS ROBERT, CAN YOU SCROLL BACK UP LIKE JUST TO ONE OF THOSE FOR EXAMPLE, OK.

WE LEAVE ALL THOSE THINGS RIGHT LIKE STAFF DEVELOPMENT BUILDING LEVEL LEADERSHIP.

DO WE LEAVE THOSE IN AWE AND JUST ADD THINGS THAT ARE PANDEMIC RELATED OR DO WE SORT OF SWAP IT OUT? I THINK WE LEAVE IT IN. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN TAKE A NAP LIKE IF WE'RE LUCKY AND THE ONE THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW STAFF DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN HE HE COULDN'T STOP STAFF DEVELOPMENT DURING THE PANDEMIC AND HAD TO INCREASE IT BECAUSE THE STAFF REALLY NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT ON BOARD WITH MORE VIRTUAL STRATEGIES AND

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> SOME OF THESE ARE WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS JUST LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT STUFF THAT PEOPLE WILL TRY TO VIEW IT THROUGH YOU KNOW, THROUGH PRE PANDEMIC IDEAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THINGS WERE JUST SO DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAT A LOT OF SORT OF THE NORMS HAD TO BE ABANDONED. RIGHT. FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT NORMALLY WERE THE VIRTUAL BUDGET MEETINGS OR BUDGET FEEDBACK.

RIGHT. WE COULDN'T DO THE NORMAL FORUMS AT THE SCHOOLS.

WE HAD A VIRTUAL AND THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT FELT THAT THAT WAS INADEQUATE.

SO YOU JUST DON'T. I WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS IF WE LEAVE EVERYTHING EXACTLY THE SAME AND JUST ADD IN SLOT IN PANDEMIC RELATED ATTRIBUTES THAT MIGHT CAUSE CONFUSION.

YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET RID OF ALL EMISSIONS.

SHOULD WE LOOK AT THEM AND SAY THESE THINGS APPLY THIS YEAR? WELL, WE'RE USING THE EXAMPLE THAT WE DID WITH THE BUDGET FORM. SO ACTUALLY ■THE WAY THATITWAS&E

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.