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WE ARE ONCE AGAIN, ELECTRONICALLY MEETING, UM, IT'S BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL MEETING REGULAR REGULARLY SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, JULY 14TH AT EVERYONE ON COUNCIL IS ATTENDING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LARRY TUMOR WHO HAD TO RUN OUT FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES, BUT HE'LL BE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THE MEETING.
WE WILL START BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IS THERE A VOLUNTEER FOR THEM VACATIONS SINCE LARRY, LARRY IS OUT.
WE COME NOW LEANING ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING FATHER, LEANING ON YOUR WISDOM.
PLEASE GUIDE US GOODIES MEETINGS THAT THE THINGS WE DO AND SAY I'LL BE, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE PLEASANT IN YOUR SIDE FOR THE ACTS THAT YOU BLESS.
ALL THAT OUR PRESIDENT FATHER BLESS ALL THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING WHILE THEY HELP US TOGETHER TO OVERCOME THESE HARD TIMES THAT WE ARE FACING IN OUR COMMUNITY, THESE AND ALL THE OTHER BLACKS AND DEAFNESS IN JESUS' NAME.
UM, MR. HAMILTON, NEXT WE HAVE THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
MR. ORLANDO, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THIS? IF NOT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN SO MOVED THERE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, STEP BY SAYING AYE.
ONE WHERE THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 9TH.
ANY CHANGES, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEIR SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS, FOLLOWED BY OUR WORKSHOP MEETINGS OF JUNE 11TH.
SO IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT DAN? YOU SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, START BY SAYING AYE.
NEXT IS COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
IS THERE ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY? I SEE DAN'S ON MY SCREEN FIRST.
DAN, IS THERE ANYTHING RIGID? ANYTHING? NO, BRAD.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST IF ANYBODY'S WATCHING ON FACEBOOK, UM, I'VE SEEN IT AFTER MEETINGS.
WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK.
THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE DURING OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT IS BEING DONE ELECTRONICALLY.
AND YOU'RE SUBMITTING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT TWO HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING OR EARLIER, AND TIM CHAPMAN, OUR TOWN CLERK WILL READ THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO PLEASE ALSO BE RESPECTFUL ON YOUR COMMENTS ON CASEBOOK IF YOU CAN'T BE, TRY TO BE, BUT WE ARE NOT READING COMMENTS OFF OF THE FACEBOOK COMMENTS STREAM.
UM, WITH THAT IT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH AND WE ASK THAT YOU SUBMIT THEM ELECTRONICALLY.
AND KIM WILL READ UP TO THE THREE MINUTE MARK.
WE ASK THAT YOU WRITE WITH RESPECT TO COUNSEL AND ALSO TRY TO KEEP IT, UM, IN THE AREAS THAT COUNCIL HAS JURISDICTION OVER KIM CHAPMAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE TO OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, DAVID GRIFFITH FOUR 67 HAMPTON LAKE DRIVE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON EXPOSING YOURSELF AS MASTERS OF VIRTUE SIGNALING.
SO WHEN, WHEN SHOULD I EXPECT ALL THE ROADWAYS IN BLUFFTON TO BE CLOSED PERMANENTLY? THE ODDS OF DYING IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT IS ONE IN 114.
AND THE ODDS OF DYING FROM COVID-19 IS ONE IN 2,321.
THEREFORE LOGIC OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTS CLOSING ALL THE ROADWAYS AND BLUFFTON.
SO THE POINT IS AN ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, REQUIRING FACE MASKS TO BE WORN IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU FAILED TO MITIGATE
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THE MUCH HIGHER PROBABILITY OF DEATH IN A CAR ACCIDENT.SINCE ONE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER MADE AN IGNORANT AND ARROGANT STATEMENT, IF IT SAVES ONE LIFE, IT ONLY REASONS TO CLOSE ALL ROADWAYS IN BLUFFTON.
I KNOW THE REASONING PRESENTED WILL NOT BE UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS THE MASS COORDINATES WAS PERPETUATED BY PEOPLE WHO MADE DECISIONS ON EMOTIONS AND NOT FACTS AND DATA.
I HATE POLITICIANS IN POLITICS, BUT NOW I'M FORCED TO SUPPORT CANDIDATES WHO RUN AGAINST EVERYONE CURRENTLY SERVING IN BLUFFTON GOVERNMENT.
ALL OF YOU ARE AFFECTLESS EMBARRASSMENTS.
NEXT COMMENT, LISA ALLEN, EIGHT MAR STRIPE BLUFFTON, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE BEAVER COUNTY POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
TASK FORCE IS A GRASSROOTS CITIZENS GROUP.
REPRESENTING EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE COUNTY.
OUR MISSION IS TO USE DATA, TO HIGHLIGHT AREAS OF STRENGTH AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR EACH LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND BEAVER COUNTY.
OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE COMMUNITIES BY USING DATA TO TRACK OBJECTIVE, ITALY AND DEMOGRAPHICS OF TRAFFIC STOPS SEARCHES INCIDENTS BEFORE AN ARREST.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF THE DATA AND LEARN WHAT DRIVES PARTICULAR TRENDS.
WE COME IN KIND OF OFTEN FOR FORMING A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND IMAGINE THAT OUR GROUPS WILL WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER HERE IN BEAVER COUNTY.
WE WANT OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BE OUR GUARDIANS, NOT WARRIORS AGAINST US IN MANY WAYS THEY ALREADY ARE.
BUT WE WANT THE DATA TO CONFIRM THAT.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT EACH ONE OF US KNOWS A POLICE OFFICER AND WE WOULD CALL A FRIEND, BUT MANY OF US ALSO KNOW OFFICERS OF WHOM WERE AFRAID YET THEY'RE STILL ON THE FORCE, WHICHEVER FORCE THAT MIGHT BE.
WE'VE HEARD STORIES OF HARASSMENT, AGGRESSION, AND BRUTALITY, AND NEARLY TO A PERSON, EVERY BLACK AND BROWN MAN ON OUR TASK FORCE HAS BEEN PULLED OVER AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER FOR UNKNOWN REASONS.
AND WE WANT TO KNOW HOW OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM TREATS VARIOUS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE OUR POLICE BEING FAIR AND JUST, AND DECIDING WHOM TO WARN VERSUS ARREST, WHOM TO STOP AND WHOM TO LET PROCEED NAME, TO HELP AND WHOM TO PUNISH DO THEY DOLE OUT EQUALLY ONE OF THEIR MOST PRIZED CURRENCIES, THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
WE WANT TO USE DATA TO BUILD A CASE, TO PUT RESOURCES WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT OUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND NEIGHBORS STAY OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
IF THEY DON'T BELONG THERE, NOTHING ELSE IS POSSIBLE.
IF ONE ENDS UP FALSELY ACCUSED, CAN THEY DID BEATEN OR AT WORST KILLED BY THE SYSTEM.
IT ALL STARTS WITH POLICE AND IT CAN ALL COME CRASHING DOWN BECAUSE OF ONE TINY MISSTEP.
WHEN OVERZEALOUS OFFICER ONE TRAFFIC STOP THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
WE BELIEVE THAT BY GAINING A STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE US THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY AREAS, TO EMULATE THE AREAS TO IMPROVE.
AND WE CAN USE OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES TO GET THE POLICE, THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS AND THE PROSECUTORS, THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO ENSURE EQUAL TREATMENT FOR EVERYONE ALL LIVES MATTER.
OUR AMERICAN SYSTEM TREATED ALL LIVES THE SAME WITH THE SAME RESPECT AND SANCTITY.
WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK LIVES, WE'RE WAY OVERDUE FOR ASKING COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE AND HELP US OBTAIN THE DATA AND UNDERSTANDING OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS IT STANDS TODAY.
SO WE CAN CREATE A BETTER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE IN THE TOWN OF WEAPON AND THAT ALL PUBLIC THANK YOU.
WE'RE MOVING OVER TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING OF TWO ITEMS. AND KIM, DID WE GET ANY COMMENT FROM THIS, BUT I'LL CALL IT OUT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ITEM.
NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE NON SECOND, CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23 ARTICLES FOR AN ARTICLE NON AND THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ITEM.
NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE FOUR, AN ARTICLE NON PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS SECOND AND FINAL READING.
HEATHER, YOU WERE UP IN FOR Y'ALL.
I WENT THROUGH, I GOT TO EVERYTHING, BUT THE LAST NUMBER, THIS IS PAGE 26.
IF YOU HAVE IT PULLED UP ON YOUR IPAD IS THE BEGINNING OF THIS ITEM.
IF EVERYONE ELSE CAN MUTE WHILE SHE'S SPEAKING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AS YOU STATED, THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL READING FOR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED
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DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE RELATED TO ZONING DISTRICTS AND LAND USES AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED DEFINITIONS RELATED TO THOSE LAND USES.WE DID HEAR THIS, UH, FOR FIRST READING AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING AND I HAVE, THERE'S BEEN NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE ORDINANCE.
UM, JUST BRIEFLY GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS IS RELATED TO USES SUCH AS, UM, SHOPFRONT MANUFACTURING, STOREFRONT MANUFACTURING, NEW USES THAT HAVE COME UP, UM, SUCH AS BREWERIES DISTILLERIES AND HOW THEY OPERATE HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
SO, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO THE VIDEO TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE CHANGES.
THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE ELIMINATION OF MANY WAREHOUSES OR SELF STORAGE FACILITIES IN ZONING DISTRICTS, OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND PUD.
SO THOSE CHANGES, AGAIN, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES SINCE THAT FIRST READING THEY ARE IN YOUR PACKET AND, UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THEM ON THE SCREEN HERE.
THAT IS THE SUMMARY, AS WELL AS THE CRITERIA.
THIS DOES COME FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED THIS EVENING? THIS IS THE FINAL READING AND IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.
UM, AT THAT TIME THEN LIKE THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR PULL UP, BUT I'M GETTING TO IT.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES FROM OUR FIRST READING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NONE, NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON CYCLE AND FINAL READING OF AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE NON THERE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, STATE BY AYE, ANY OPPOSED AT UNANIMOUS NEXT, WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING ON THE APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES.
CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE FOUR, ARTICLE SIX AND ARTICLE NINE.
I WILL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE NONE KIM SECOND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIRD CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS OVER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND HEATHER, YOU HAVE THIS, AND THIS IS PAGE 40.
JUST ONE MOMENT AS I SHARE MY SCREEN HERE, OOPS, SORRY.
I, YOU SHOULD SEE HERE AGAIN, THIS IS SOME MORE AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE RELATED TO, UM, WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVISIONS FOR NEW PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS OR AMENDED PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS THAT INCLUDE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, AS WELL AS THE DEFINITION FOR THOSE.
YOU DID HEAR THIS FOR FIRST READING.
WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY CHANGES SINCE FIRST READING ON THIS ITEM.
AND THIS DOES COME FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM BOTH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AS I SCROLL WHO HERE ARE TO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENT FOR NEW P UDS OR BEAUTIES THAT ARE AMENDED, THAT INCLUDE THAT RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT FROM 10% OF THE HOUSING TO BE REQUIRED TO, UM, BE AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING TO A MINIMUM OF 20%.
IT ALSO CHANGES THE DEFINITION FROM 120% OF THE GROSS AREA IN THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR BUFORD COUNTY TO 100% FOR THAT QUALIFICATION AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE BELOW.
AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, NOTHING CHANGED FROM FIRST READING MEETING LAST MONTH.
ANY OTHER, ANY DISCUSSION? YES, SIR.
JUST IF YOU WILL, IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY IN ENGLISH PAGE 41, I BELIEVE, UM, TALKS ABOUT ARTICLE FOUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND IT WAS MY QUESTION PERTAINS TO THE 20% DENSITY INCREASE.
AND SO IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DENSITY TO MARKET UNITS, PLUS ONE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IF YOU HAVE 100 UNITS AND YOU'VE DONE THE 20%, TELL ME WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED IN ADDITION TO THE 100 UNITS THAT'S BEING BUILT FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT.
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THAT IS THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE UDL.WE DID NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO THAT.
SO WHAT THAT, THAT PROVISION ALLOWS IS THAT IF YOU DO MORE THAN THAT, SO IF YOU INCLUDE MORE THAN WHAT WOULD BE CHANGED TO THE 20%, THEN YOU CAN GET TWO MORE ADDITIONAL MARKET UNITS ALLOWED FOR EACH UNIT.
SO IF YOU DO TWO MORE THAN IF SAY FOR, FOR MATH FAKE, IF YOU'RE, YOU HAVE A HUNDRED UNITS, 20 UNITS HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU DO TWO MORE UNITS.
SO INSTEAD OF THE 20, YOU DO 22 UNITS, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED ANOTHER TWO OR EXCUSE ME, ANOTHER ONE, UM, MARKET PRICE, MARKET RATE UNIT.
AND SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
IF THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CHANGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO EXPLORE, WE CERTAINLY CAN.
BUT AT THIS TIME WE DIDN'T PROPOSE ANY CHANGES FOR THAT PROVISION.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE CLEAR THAT IF THEY GOT TWO ADDITIONAL OR FOUR ADDITIONAL, WHATEVER, THE NUMBER WAS GOING TO BE, HOW MANY MORE ADDITIONAL, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WOULD PLAY AGAINST THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE INCREASING BY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO, AND I'M SORRY, I THINK I EXPLAINED IT WRONG.
SO YOU GET THE WAY IT'S WORDED RIGHT HERE.
IT'S A DENSITY BONUS OF TWO ADDITIONAL MARKET PRICE UNITS FOR EACH ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT, THIS IS SECOND AND FINAL READING.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON CYCLE AND FINAL READING OF AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FOUR, ARTICLE SIX AND ARTICLE NINE.
ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO THANK THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK ON THIS AND, UM, WE'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT WITH, WITH OUR MISSION ON THIS.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR STATE OF SAYING, AYE, AYE.
ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED WITH NON THAT'S UNANIMOUS AND TIM, PLEASE NOTE ON THESE THAT LARRY'S NOT PRESENT.
SO WHEN YOU DO THAT NEXT IN OUR WORKSHOP ITEMS, WE HAVE THREE.
UM, THE FIRST STARTS ON PAGE 52 OF OUR AGENDA, IF Y'ALL ARE ON YOUR IPAD.
AND THAT IS REVIEW OF PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATING TO THE REGULATION AND CERTIFICATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS.
IT IS CHAPTER 23 IN OUR UDL ARTICLE FOR ZONING DISTRICTS.
ARTICLE NINE IS DIS DEFINITIONS.
AND, AND WELL, AS WELL AS CHAPTER SIX, WHICH IS BUSINESS AND BUSINESS REGULATIONS, ARTICLE FIVE, WHICH IS SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND THIS IS A WORKSHOP HEATHER, UM, IT'S ALL YOURS AND THIS IS PAGE 52 ON OUR SCREEN.
UM, YOU SEE HERE, UH, THE SCREEN WITH THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS, YOU MAY RECALL THIS IS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON TEXT AMENDMENTS, TO THE, BOTH THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS THE MUNICIPAL CODE RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UM, RELATED TO THE USE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AS WELL AS A CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THAT.
THIS IS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS THAT STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO RESEARCH AND MAKE MODIFICATIONS, UH, CONCERNING THE UTO.
AND THERE WAS ALSO A WORKSHOP THAT WAS HELD ON THIS ITEM BY TOWN COUNCIL AT THAT TIME TOWN COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO, UM, PUT TOGETHER A FOCUS GROUP.
SO THAT FOCUS GROUP INCLUDED REALTORS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, DEVELOPERS, AND JUST A, UH, A DIVERSE GROUP FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO PROVIDE THEIR INSIGHT AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS TOPIC.
AS A RESULT OF THAT FOCUS GROUP, THERE WAS, UM, SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS AND THEY ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.
THEY INCLUDED, UM, DEFINITIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL USES, UM, ADDRESSING THINGS AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE, WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED IN AN OCCUPIED DWELLING UNIT.
UM, IS IT CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS? IS IT, UH, WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT INCLUDE? AND AGAIN, A CERTIFICATION PROCESS TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY AND THE, UM,
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JUST THE UNIT ITSELF, AS FAR AS HOW THAT IS ALSO LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES, WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARGUING.UM, A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA ARE GOING, GOING THROUGH AND HAVE GONE THROUGH, UM, PROCESSES TO AGAIN, HAVE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND ADDRESS IN THEIR ZONING ORDINANCE.
WHAT STAFF HAS COMPILED FROM THAT MEETING, OR AGAIN, THE AMENDMENTS AS THEY'RE THEY'RE ATTACHED, BUT ALSO THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
THE GOALS FOR THAT AGAIN, ARE TO MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS WHEN A YOUTH IS BEING RENTED OUT AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
AND THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AS PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE IS A RENTAL OF A LODGING UNIT FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
AGAIN, THE REST OF THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE JUST, UM, BASICALLY THE DEFINITIONS AS FAR AS HOW ARE THESE USES GOING TO BE DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE.
CURRENTLY SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE DEFINED AS A LODGING USE.
IT IS A REGULATED AS A HOME OCCUPATION, AND WE DO NOT DIFFERENTIATE THAT LENGTH OF STAY IN THIS WORKSHOP.
UM, AGENDA ITEM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A, A SIMPLE APPROACH, UM, IT JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH GIVING THE BASIS AND JUST, UM, MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT SHOULD, SHOULD YOU PROVIDE COMMENTS AND WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS SCHEDULE.
THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THAT COULD OCCUR AT THIS, THIS MONTH'S MEETING WE'RE PREPARED TO DO SO.
AND THEN FIRST READING AND FINAL RATING.
AND SECOND, EXCUSE ME, SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING HERE IS THE, UM, SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE STARTED TO PULL FORWARD.
AND YOU WILL SEE IN THAT, UM, THIS FONT RIGHT HERE, THE PURPOSE OF THAT PARTICULAR SECTION AND THE RED UNDERLYING TEXT IS THE PROPOSED TEXT TO ADDRESS THAT AGAIN, WE OUTLINED THE DEFINITIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT USES, MAKING SURE THEY ALIGNED WITH THE EXISTING DEFINITIONS IN THE TEXT, AND THEN ALSO OUTLINE THE DISTRICTS THAT IT WOULD BE PERMITTED OR PROPOSED TO BE PERMITTED, UM, CONDITIONALLY OR, UM, PERMITTED.
AND THIS WOULD NOT, UM, AFFECT THE PUD AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AREAS.
THOSE DISTRICTS AND AREAS HAVE THEIR OWN COVENANTS.
AND AGAIN ARE, AREN'T COVERED BY THESE PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICTS, AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THE DEFINITIONS AND THE TERMINOLOGY HERE, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY THE NEW TERM FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
THAT IS THE PROPOSED UTO AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN WHAT WE'VE DONE IS OUTLINED THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW PROCESS.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT MANY OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING AS FAR AS THE REGULATIONS AROUND THAT.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO HOW WE, UH, ADDRESSED MOBILE VENDING.
SO MOBILE VENDING HAS THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND IS OUTLINED IN THE SAME PROCEDURALLY TYPE OF WAY.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO, TO WORK ON THIS AND HOW THAT CERTIFICATION AND LICENSING WOULD WORK.
SO ALL OF THIS, UM, THAT'S ATTACHED, I'M SCROLLING THROUGH IS NEW THE NEW REGULATIONS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S TO DETERMINE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A SAFE UNIT THAT WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH, UM, A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT TRASH IS REMOVED.
UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THAT FOCUS GROUP, AS THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AGAIN, IT WOULD BE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS OR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A START, A CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT COULD BE RENEWED ANNUALLY AND SOMETHING THAT, UM, MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A FEE.
AND WE WOULD WORK THROUGH, AGAIN, ALL THOSE, THOSE DETAILS WITH YOUR DIRECTION.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT CERTIFICATION APPLICATION COULD LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, JUST THE INFORMATION DEFINITIONS, UM, WHERE IT IS ALLOWED, WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE, THE OCCUPANCY LIMITS AND RESPONSIBLE PARTIES, AND JUST OUTLINING AGAIN, WHAT THE LICENSE THAT YOU'RE EXPECTED TO GET A LICENSE AND CERTIFICATION, THE LIFE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT APPLICATION, UM, AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THEY WOULD SUBMIT AND CERTIFICATION THAT THEY HAVE.
HEATHER, I JUST DON'T UNDER YOUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
THE PAGE ONE, I HAD HIGHLIGHTED IT.
SO I HAD TO GO BACK AND READ IT BY THE TIME.
SO YOU HAVE, I'M JUST CONFUSED
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OVER THE WORDING UNDER LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS.ITEM B MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM OCCUPANT STAY SHALL BE LIMITED TO TWO PERSONS PER BEDROOM.
I GOT THAT PLUS TOO, NOT TO EXCEED 16 OCCUPANTS PER UNIT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CALCULATING OCCUPANCY, ONLY INDIVIDUALS OVER THE AGE OF 36 MONTHS SHALL BE INCLUDED.
ARE YOU RIGHT? I'M AFTER SECTION SIX, KEEP GOING.
AFTER THAT SECTION GO DOWN AND THEN YOU SEE THE TOWN OF BLUFF ATTACHMENT THREE.
I MEAN, MAYBE IT WAS WORDED, RIGHT.
I JUST DID NOT WRITE THEIR LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS NUMBER B, AND IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
AND, AND THAT IS ALL SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW WE, IF, IF WE WANT TO LIMIT THE OCCUPANCY AND WHAT'S THAT LIMITED TO, WE CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE IT.
UM, IT IS AN EIGHT BEDROOM HOUSE.
I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS, I DON'T KNOW.
IT JUST DOESN'T SOMEBODY ELSE CAN CHIME IN AND YOU'RE, AND IT'S THREE YEARS AND OLDER OR IS ANYONE, DOES ANYONE ELSE UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE I JUST NEED EDUCATING ON IT? I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.
I READ IT TODAY, BUT I DIDN'T PICK UP, I WOULDN'T THINKING ABOUT THE 16.
I WAS THINKING MORE OF A BEDROOM WITH TWO PEOPLE, TWO ADULTS, BABY, FULL OUT.
SO FOR SOMETHING WITH PLUS TWO, BUT ONE THING THAT PLAYS IN ALL OF THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 16 MEANS EITHER.
UH, ONE THING THAT PLAYS INTO ALL OF THIS IS PARKING RESTRICTIONS.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THE LAST PART.
THE PARKING, THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS WOULD PLAY IN TO THIS.
WHATEVER THE SIZE OF THE UNIT, WHEN IT'S CONSTRUCTED WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE, WHAT TRACTION IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET IT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE HOME.
AND, UM, AND THE DISTRICT THAT IT, THAT IT'S IN WITH IN TERMS OF REQUIRED PARKING.
UM, WE CAN, AGAIN, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.
I CAN FIND OUT WHERE EXACTLY THAT CAME FROM AND WHO DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR AND BRING MAYBE SOME, SOME CLEARER WORDING OR, UM, LIKE SOME BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION.
WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY SIMPLIFY THAT AND, UM, GET SOME CLARIFICATION'S AND PARKING, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THEY DO HAVE PPC THERE.
UM, THAT IS THAT'S ANOTHER PROVISION THAT ASSOCIATES THE PARKING RIGHT BELOW THAT BE UNDER YOUR LOCATION, RIGHT BACK TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, EXTENDING WHAT IS EXPLAINED.
IT'S JUST, IT WAS THE NUMBER BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
IT WAS JUST A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSION.
AND I REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT ISN'T THERE A TRIP OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS TURNS IT INTO AN END OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE IS A DEFINITION FOR, IN AS WELL.
SO IF YOU HAD EIGHT BEDROOMS AND 16 UNITS, I HAVE 16 PEOPLE I'M TRYING TO I'M WITH MAYOR.
WE'LL CERTAINLY SIMPLIFY THAT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT.
AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, IT GIVES ANY HOUSE BUILT TODAY, A FOUR BEDROOM HOUSE, THE ABILITY TO HAVE 16 PEOPLE IN IT.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMPLICATE ANYTHING ANYWAY, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, WE CAN SIMPLIFY THAT.
AND ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE PARKING.
SO SOMEONE BUILDS A SMALL HOME AND THEN THEY LATER TURN IT INTO SHORT TERM RENTALS BASED ON TODAY'S HOME USED, THEY HAVE TO HAVE WHAT, FOUR PARKING SPACES, I'M SORRY, A HOME OF WHAT SITE AND FOUR PARKING SPACES.
SOMEBODY BUILDS THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT TODAY, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE BEDROOM HOME.
THAT'S HOW MANY PARKING SPACES? I CAN'T REMEMBER OUR CODE.
I KNOW YOU GOT HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE IT POTENTIALLY EVEN FOUR.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS DEPENDING ON THE, THE SIZE THAT IT GOES A LITTLE BIT.
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HIGHER, BUT MOST INSTANCES IN MOST INSTANCES AND ZONING DISTRICTS, IT IS TOO.SO IF YOU BUILT A HOUSE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, THEN LATER I HAD MULTIPLE BEDROOMS AND TRY TO DO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS PARKING PLAN THAT I, YES.
IF YOU, THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS, THE ONE CERTIFICATION THAT, SORRY.
UM, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WITH THE PROPOSED CERTIFICATION PROCESS IS OFF STREET.
PARKING SHALL BE PROVIDED AT A RATIO OF ONE PARKING SPACE PER BEDROOM.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO RENT IT OUT AND WANT TO GET A SHORT TERM, IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR CERTIFICATION TO BE CONSIDERED A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT, YOU WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH THAT C THAT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, UM, FOR THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS THAT YOU'RE USING.
IF WE FIND THAT THEY'RE IN NON-COMPLIANCE THEN, UM, WE'D GO THROUGH THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE VIOLATION PROCESS, AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, ONE OF THE OPTIONS THERE, WE WERE TRYING TO SET UP THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS SO THAT WE DIDN'T DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SO CUMBERSOME TO GO INSIDE AND DO INSPECTIONS OF THE HOMES, BUT THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION THAT WE COULD DO.
UH, WE COULD, UH, INCLUDE THAT IN THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
SO THERE'S THAT PROVISION AS WELL.
I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION, MAYOR.
UM, WHEN THIS BECAME SUCH A STATEWIDE DISCUSSION A YEAR OR TWO AGO, SOME MUNICIPALITIES WERE USING A TRACKING SOFTWARE.
HOW DO WE INTEND TO MONITOR ALL OF THIS? WE DO, WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THE MONITORING SOFTWARE SYSTEMS, UM, AND WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
THERE'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW AS IF OUR SIZE IS, WOULD, UM, OFFSET THE FEES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, BUT IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVING LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT SOFTWARE COMPANIES THAT, THAT HAVE THAT AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE AND OUR GOV, HOW WE WOULD, WOULD MAKE THAT WORK.
BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO USE, TO USE WHAT WE HAVE WORST CASE, NOT WORST CASE SCENARIO, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD WE USE IT WITH WHAT WE HAVE, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS THROUGH AND OUR GOV AND LICENSING.
BUT WE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE TRACKING SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE PROGRAMS AND HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, AND JUST, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS FOR YOU YET ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD MORE WITH, UM, THE FINANCE SIDE OF THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW, AS IF WE HAVE ENOUGH UNITS TO, TO WARRANT THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE, DAN? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY YOU'RE OUT THERE.
SO HEATHER, SO I HAVE ONE THOUGHT, UM, ALONG WITH THAT AREA TALKING ABOUT THE, NOT TO EXCEED 16, UM, I'M GUESSING THIS SAY THIS PASSES, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL FAMILIES WHO WANT TO RENT SHORT-TERM WILL COME TO YOU AND MAKE AN APPLICATION AND YOU'LL SIT WITH THEM AND TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED.
DO YOU GO IN AND INSPECT THE HOUSE? DO YOU INSPECT THE AREA AND SEE IF IT'S CAPABLE OF THE ONE SPACE PER ROOM? AND ARE WE TELLING THEM THEY CAN RENT THEIR WHOLE HOUSE AND THEIR ROOM ABOVE THE GARAGE? ARE WE PUTTING IN THERE THAT ONLY ONE STRUCTURE, EITHER THE ROOM OF THE GARAGE OR THE MAIN HOUSE CAN BE RENTED? ARE WE LEAVING THAT OPEN? AND THEN FINALLY I WOULD SUGGEST THAT UNDER RESPONSIBLE PARTY, IT EITHER BE THE HOMEOWNER THAT LIVES IN BLUFFTON OR A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT, THAT IS BASED OUT OF BLOCKED IN, BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD THE ISSUES WERE WERE WHEN A RESIDENT, MANY STATES OVER THROWS IT ON AIRBNB, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE RESPONSIBLE AND THEY MAY BE AVAILABLE, BUT IF THEY ARE ON THE WEST COAST, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD THE ISSUES.
UM, AND ALONG WITH BEING PROACTIVE ON THIS, AND I KNOW YOU'RE IN THIS MEETING
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RIGHT HERE THAT UNDERSTAND IT A LOT BETTER THAN I DO, BECAUSE I DON'T DO SHORT TERM RENTALS, BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON SO FAR ON THIS.ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE ALL OUR NOTES? DID YOU GET ALL OUR COMMENTS? YES, I WILL.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE SIX 16 THAT YOU REFERRED TO AND REWORD THAT AND ADDRESS THAT MAKE SURE THAT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS, UM, LOCAL OR THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED OR THE OWNER.
AND I BELIEVE WE DID TRY TO MAKE SURE TO CAPTURE THAT.
AND WHAT I CAN ALSO DO IS OUTLINE, UM, THE PROCESS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME PROCESS QUESTIONS AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD, WHAT THOSE STEPS WOULD BE ONCE YOU APPLY WHEN WE WOULD INSPECT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, HOW WE WOULD DEAL WITH THE ENFORCEMENT PARTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I CAN ADD THAT TO, UM, TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENT TO YOU AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I DID WANT TO ADDRESS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ONE, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO REVIEW, UM, FEES FOR THAT? WE CAN BRING YOU THE INFORMATION FORWARD WITH WHAT OTHERS IN THE AREA ARE DOING AS FAR AS THE SORT OF PATIENT FEES, AS WELL AS THE TIMEFRAME WE KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT WE DO HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE KNOW WHO HAS THOSE HOME OCCUPATION PERMITS TO BE ABLE TO DO SO THAT ARE ACTUALLY, UM, LOGGED IN THE TOWNS, UM, SYSTEM, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO PROVIDE, OR HOW LONG DO WE PROVIDE EVERYONE TO, UM, TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE? OKAY.
IS SHE CAPTURE EVERYTHING? I HAVE ONE, I BELIEVE MAYOR SACA YOU ASKED ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION, AT LEAST BASED ON MY NOTES.
HOW MANY UNITS PER PROPERTY? YES, I DID.
AND HEATHER, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN YOUR NOTES THAT YOU WENT OVER AND YOUR, YOUR PROPOSED THAT IT'S, BUT I KNOW WE HAD TALKED INTERNALLY AS WELL, ALONG THE WAY, UM, THAT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CONCEPT IS, IS LITERALLY PUTTING NUMEROUS STRUCTURES ON ONE LOT AND CREATING REALLY CIRCUMVENTING THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE UTILIZATION CONTINUE UTILIZATION OF THE, UM, REMIND ME WHAT THE NAME OF THE, THE BUNGALOW, AS WELL AS PERHAPS LIMITING THIS TO ONE RENTAL PER PROPERTY.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, THAT WAS ANOTHER THOUGHT I WAS IN PALMATE A BLOCK LAST WEEK AND I REALLY DO HANDLE IT.
WELL, THEY HAVE A WHOLE AREA WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THEY CLEARLY TOLD ME YOU CAN RENT THE HOUSE OR YOU CAN RENT THE ROOM ABOVE THE GARAGE, BUT YOU CAN'T DO BOTH BECAUSE THEY HAVE PARKING CONSTRAINTS AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE DO HAVE PROPOSED, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I WENT OVER THIS OR DIDN'T GO OVER.
THIS IS FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT, THAT IT IS JUST ONE PER LOT.
AND, UM, LIKE WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING IT'S IT'S THE HOUSE IT'S OVER, IT'S THE UNIT OVER THE GARAGE IS THE GARAGE UNIT, WHATEVER THE MAY BE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A STARTING POINT IS ONE RENTAL UNIT PER LOT.
SO IT WOULD, UM, THE ISSUE OF THE BUNGALOW COURT, WHERE IT COULD BE MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LOT, AND THEY'RE ALL BEING USED AS, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
THAT'S NOT PROPOSED TO BE, UM, THAT'S NOT PROPOSED TO BE PERMITTED UNDER THE PROPOSAL WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.
HAVE THERE WITH YOUR SECTION ABOVE IN RED THAT SAYS THE USE IS PERMITTED ONLY WITHIN A PRINCIPAL DWELLING UNIT DOES NOT ALLOW IT IN A GARAGE APARTMENT THAT IS UNDER, UM, THAT IS UNDER IN THAT'S.
UH, THAT'S THE END, GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION, YOUR OTHER QUESTION.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THIS WILL BE THE HONOR SYSTEM.
NO, NOT NECESSARILY THE HONOR SYSTEM, UM, WHAT IT WOULD BE, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT WOULD HELP WHEN I COME FORWARD.
THE NEXT TIME IS HAVE THAT PROCESS OUTLINED AS FAR AS IT'S, HERE'S THE PROCESS THAT STAFF WILL PROCESS THE REQUEST IN SPECS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE EXPECT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO INSPECT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE ANY POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS.
SO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS PARTNERS WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
SO THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT CERTIFICATION
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LICENSE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS, DAN, AND I'LL JUMP IN, YOU KNOW, HEATHER, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF MONITORING WEEK WE'RE SMARTER THAN THIS.AND WE COULD TECHNOLOGY TODAY CANNOT BE THAT EXPENSIVE TO HAVE AN ONLINE PORTAL ON OUR, OUR TOWN SITE TO MONITOR THIS CORRECT.
AND WE, WE HAVE THE PROVISIONS TO DO SO WITH THE, WITH THE SOFTWARE WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.
SO, BUT WE WILL LOOK TO SEE IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL OR SUPPLEMENTAL SOFTWARE TO MONITOR.
SO, UM, I WILL, I WILL HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU WHEN IT COMES TO FIRST READING TO REALLY, AGAIN, OUTLINE THAT PROCESS, WHICH, WHICH WE WILL NEED TO DO FOR ANY PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS, UM, THAT WANTS TO CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF USE OR RENT THIS TYPE OF USE.
SO WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU THE NEXT TIME, AS FAR AS THE INSPECTIONS, THE APPLICATION, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THAT WOULD HELP.
MA'AM YOU THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS STRIVING FOR.
UM, ALSO I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS AT THE LAST SECOND.
THERE'S A LOT OF FRAUD THAT GOES, PLAY, TAKES PLACE WITH RENTALS.
UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT.
I JUST KNEW THERE WAS A LOT OF FRAUD AND I GUESS THAT'S BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND WHOEVER THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT? HEATHER, IF YOU FOLLOW ME, I'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD 12 PEOPLE SHOW UP WITH RENTAL PROPERTY THAT MY WIFE OWNS THAT WE'RE TAKING THE, TAKING THE TASK ON CRAIGSLIST, FOR EXAMPLE.
WELL, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD IN ON EDUCATION.
IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT DECIDES THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, DEBBIE'S SO SEASONED IN IT, BUT SAY, I DECIDED I WANT TO DO IT.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME EDUCATION WE CAN PUT IN PLACE TO EXPLAIN TO HOMEOWNERS, JUST BE CAREFUL OF THESE PLACES.
I THINK YOU CAN GET FRAUD ON ANY OF THEM, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHORT TERM SITES THAT ARE MUCH MORE PROTECTED THAN OTHERS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNER AND THE RENTER, DAN I'D HATE FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT GOES UP AND IT EXCEEDS THE LIMIT.
BUT THEN THE HOMEOWNER KNOWS THAT CAUSE THEY FILLED OUT THE, THE SHEET ON THE REQUIREMENTS.
I LIKED THE EDUCATIONAL ASPECT TOO.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? THIS'LL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BACK TO US FOR TWO READINGS.
UM, SO HEATHER WILL, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE, UM, THE TOWN LIMITS BE SUBJECTED TO THE HX FEES.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH CHRIS FOERSTER IN HIS, UM, HIS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE CHANGES ARE, ARE IN LINE, BUT I BELIEVE SO.
AND THAT'S PART OF THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO PAY ALL THE FEES? WELL, I THINK IT IS YES, BECAUSE THE ONES THAT ARE IN OUR PLANET.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON FINANCE DEPARTMENT GETS SOMETHING INCORRECT THERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT GOOD GUIDANCE FROM US.
WE'LL SEE IT AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION, NEXT WORKSHOP ITEM AND HEATHER STILL UP.
IT'S THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
IT'S CHAPTER 23 OF THE STUDIO, ARTICLE THREE APPLICATION PROCESS, ARTICLE FOUR ZONING DISTRICTS IN ARTICLE NINE.
IF YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THE AGENDA THE WAY I HAVE HEATHER.
BEAR WITH ME WHILE I PULL UP THE NEXT, THE NEXT PACKET HERE.
I'M MAKING SURE I PULL UP THE CORRECT ONE FOR YOU.
DID I SEE LARRY? ARE YOU BACK? YES.
UM, CAN YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION THERE? SO THIS IS RELATED TO CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A WORKSHOP ITEMS ON THIS IN THE PAST AND HAD VARIOUS DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
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THE UTO AS FAR AS AMENDMENTS, TO REALLY RECTIFY SOME THINGS WITH OUR DEFINITIONS, THAT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES LIST, AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OTHER INITIATIVES IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, SUCH AS, UM, THE, UH, BAILEY BILL ECONOMIC INCENTIVES, UM, THE ALIGNMENT OF THE NATIONAL AND THE LOCAL DISTRICTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO THIS IS ANOTHER WORKSHOP ITEM, UH, RELATED TO THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS THE INVENTORY.
SO AGAIN, LIKE I EXPLAINED AT SPEED, THE DEFINITIONS, AS WELL AS THE PROCESS AND THE, UM, THE, THE CRITERIA THAT'S USED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A STRUCTURE IS ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, INCLUSION ON THAT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES OR THE LIST IS WE TYPICALLY REFER TO IT AS A, THIS HERE IS, UM, ON THE SCREEN IS THE DEFINITION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
UM, I W NOT AS CLEAR AS I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING SOME CHANGES.
AGAIN, THERE'S SOME CROSS-REFERENCES TO DIFFERENT SECTIONS AS WELL AS LISTS AND AS WELL AS NATIONAL REGISTER, UM, DISTRICT AS WELL.
UM, AGAIN, THERE'S AN ATTACHMENT IN YOUR PACKET AND I WILL ALSO PULL IT UP IN A MOMENT HERE THAT INCLUDES THE INVENTORY.
AND THOSE ARE, UH, STRUCTURES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER ARE THAT, AND, UM, THE 1996 NATIONAL REGISTER LIST.
AND THEN THERE WERE ALSO TWO OTHER, UM, LISTS AND LOCAL HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS DONE IN 2001 AND 2008, UM, CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES OR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES CAN BE LISTED NATIONALLY, LOCALLY, OR BOTH.
UM, ALL STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THAT, UM, ARE DETERMINED TO BE CONTRIBUTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER ARE ALSO ON OUR LOCAL CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES LIST.
HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T WORK THE OPPOSITE WAY, SO YOU CAN BE, UM, LOCAL AS IN NATIONAL, BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE A LOCAL CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU WERE ALSO ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
THE 2008 INVENTORY IS WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE THAT THE TOWN'S CURRENT, UM, CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES LIFT HERE'S THE PROPOSED TEXT.
UM, AGAIN, IT IS REALLY RECTIFYING AND CLARIFYING, UM, SIMPLIFYING THE DEFINITIONS RELATED TO A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
SO WHAT'S CROSSED OUT, UM, AS, AS TYPICAL IS WHAT'S PROPOSED TO BE STRICKEN OR ELIMINATED.
AND THE NEW REVISED TEXT, UM, THAT UNDERLINED TEXT HERE STAFF IS ALSO PROPOSING TO DO IS TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THAT LIST, THAT 2008 LISTS THAT WAS, UM, ADOPTED IN WHAT WE CONSIDER OUR CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES SURVEY IN THE ACTUAL UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
SO THAT IT IS VERY, UM, CLEAR AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT IS THAT LIST? UM, AND THAT IT IS THE OFFICIAL LIST AT THIS TIME.
STAFF IS NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO, TO THE STRUCTURES HERE.
THESE ARE THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE LIST WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION BEING THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
LIKE AGAIN, THE STREET ADDRESS IS WHAT THE ADDRESS WAS AT THE TIME THE SURVEY WAS DONE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DO HAVE THAT CROSS REFERENCE TO THOSE SURVEY NUMBERS AND THOSE SURVEY CARDS.
SO ALL WE'RE PROPOSING AT THIS TIME IS SIMPLY TO INCLUDE IT FORMALLY IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT COORDINATES, AND THEN THIS WILL MAKE IT VERY, UM, THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE SIMPLIFIED MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT, TO THAT LIST IN THE SURVEY.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST MORE OF THE PROPOSED TEXT.
THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AGAIN, IT'S REALLY JUST CLARIFYING AND, UM, GETTING ALL OF THE WORDS IN LINE AS FAR AS CONTRIBUTING VERSUS HISTORIC, UM, VERSUS SURVEY THIS HERE'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A HISTORIC RESOURCE MAP THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE IN THE MAT GALLERY AND WHERE WE HAVE MAPPED OUT THOSE HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT ARE LISTED AS CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
SO AGAIN, I CAN ALWAYS ZOOM IN, BUT WHAT YOU SEE IS, UM, THE LIST HERE AS WELL AS WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED IN.
SO NOW MOVING FORWARD TO THE CRITERIA.
SO THE CRITERIA THAT IS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UM, NOW ARE 10 DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO IN THE WAY, THIS IS WORDED AND THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THESE ARE OR STATEMENTS.
SO A STRUCTURE OR A SITE WOULD, AS LONG AS THEY MEET, AS LONG AS THEY MEET ONE OF THESE 10 CRITERIA, THEY ARE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION AS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
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UM, RIGHT HERE I REFERENCED, THIS IS ALL LISTED UNDER 3.2 5.3 0.8.UM, POINT B STATES THAT IT MUST BE 50 YEARS OR OLDER.
WHAT, UM, AT THIS POINT WE CAN, UH, SINCE THIS, THE WORKSHOP, WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE LISTING OF WHAT THE CRITERIA IS.
THIS IS, UM, THIS IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND I WILL SCROLL DOWN TO THE STATE'S REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
AND A LOT OF THEM ARE SIMILAR TO, UM, TO WHAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED FROM THE STATE, OR THERE'S AN OPTION WHERE WE CAN SIMPLIFY THIS AND, UM, KINDA CONDENSE THEM TO MATCH MORE.
WHAT, AGAIN, THOSE STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE, OKAY, THIS MOVING FORWARD IS THE STATE'S CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE REALLY BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BODY, UM, CAN FURTHER REGULATE, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE LISTING CRITERIA IS IN ADDITION TO THAT 50 YEAR THRESHOLD.
YES, BUT REAL QUICK QUESTION BACK TO THE, UH, THE 10 CRITERIA.
YES, YOU SAID, AND I'M TRYING TO GO BACK FROM WHEN THIS CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT ANY ONE OF THAT 10 MAKES IT VIABLE TO BE CONSIDERED.
WAS IT NOT A GREATER NUMBER? IT WASN'T A THREE OR FOUR AT ONE TIME.
THIS IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I BELIEVE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN OR STATEMENT FROM WHAT I COULD FIND.
UM, IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO TWO TOWN COUNCIL, AS FAR AS WHAT'S INCLUDED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA, BUT THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED RIGHT NOW, IT IS ALL AN OR STATEMENT.
SO AGAIN, AT SOMETHING WE CAN CHANGE THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO MEET MULTIPLE.
I DON'T KNOW, AS IF THERE'S A NUMBER, UH, WHEN I SCROLL THROUGH, IF WE LOOK AT WHAT THE NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE, THEY HAVE THE CRITERIA MORE CONDENSED RATHER THAN VERY SPECIFIC AS YOU SEE HERE.
UM, EACH, EACH ELEMENT IS VERY SPECIFIC.
NOT THAT THAT'S, UM, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT SO WE CAN CONDENSE THEM.
WE COULD MAKE IT AN, AN STATEMENT.
YOU MAY HAVE TO MEET EACH ONE.
IT MAY BE, UM, TWO OR THREE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS.
IF THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES THAT, UH, SHOULD BE LIKE AN ULTIMATE, YES, IT MEETS THIS.
AND ANOTHER ONE, THAT'S AN OPTION, BUT THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND IF I COULD JUST SCROLL DOWN TO THIS IS THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE CRITERIA.
SO THEY HAVE FOUR, AND YOU'LL SEE IF YOU WERE TO COMPARE THEM.
IT'S JUST, WE LISTED OUT RATHER THAN WHERE THEY HAVE COMMAS HERE.
OUR LISTING IS VERY SPECIFIC FOR EACH ONE.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S IS ALSO AN OVERSTATEMENT THERE.
I MEAN, I AM NOT EDUCATED IN THIS.
WHAT DO THE PROFESSIONALS THINK? HAVE WE RUN IT PAST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A HISTORIC PRESERVATION, SOME SOMEWHERE LOOKING AT THIS, TELLING US WHAT, WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.
I'M LIKE DIANA SOMEWHAT REMEMBER IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD SEEM LIKE IT HAD TO PASS MORE THAN JUST ONE OF THOSE 10, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER IT, BUT THIS, THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAD IN, UM, 2008.
SO THIS IS WHAT I DID PUT THAT HISTORICAL.
WHAT HAD CHANGED FOR IT WAS STILL, UM, AN OR STATEMENT AND STILL, STILL, EXCUSE ME, VERY LENGTHY.
UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO STATE ARCHIVES AND OUR, UM, OUR LIAISON THERE, AS FAR AS WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN, HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT OUR, UH, LOCAL DESIGNATION.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR REPORTING OR OUR CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT STATUS.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE REVISING THE, UM, THE CRITERIA WOULD, AND, UM, WE, WE DIDN'T ASK SPECIFICS AS FAR AS WHAT THE CHANGES WOULD BE, BUT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CRITERIA WE HAVE NOW.
IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE STATEMENT WE HAVEN'T HAD UP TO THIS POINT IS THAT IT'S, IT'S UP TO, TO US, IF WE WANT TO CONDENSE THEM OR SIMPLY MAPS THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
WELL, I JUST GO BACK TO SOMEONE WHO'S EDUCATED AND ALL OF THIS SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND GIVE US THEIR COMMENTS, UNLESS THEY ALREADY HAVE, WE, WE COULD CERTAINLY REACH OUT LIKE, UM, AFTER THIS WORKSHOP WE CAN REACH OUT IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT, THAT YOU FEEL WE SHOULD, UM, SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
I'D WELCOME THOSE COMMENTS, OR LIKE, SO WE CAN
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CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO OUR, TO OUR, UM, TO OUR COUNTERPARTS AS FAR AS HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS AND WHAT THEIR SUGGESTIONS ARE.UM, AS FAR AS HOW TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION, EXCUSE ME, THE CRITERIA.
I MEAN, IF IT'S WORKED SO FAR, IT'S FUN.
I JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO HELP OR HURT THIS.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT MARISOL CRO, MAY I JUMPED IN, UM, IT'S MARK ORLANDO SPEAKING, UM, WHILE I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST, UM, I DO THINK I CAN OFFER SOME INSIGHT AND HEATHER, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE PAST WHERE THE CLG NEEDS TO SPECIFICALLY HELP US WITH OUR CRITERIA.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE IS THAT THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN WRITTEN YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE TRYING TO APPLY IT CURRENT DAY.
AND IF YOU, IF WE SLOW DOWN AND LOOK AT THE 10 CRITERIA AND SIMPLY IN OUR MINDS, COMPARE IT WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE CRITERIA.
HEATHER, IF YOU COULD SCROLL DOWN, I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTH CAROLINA CRITERIA, IT TELLS US THAT THE SOUTH CAROLINA LINE OF REGS CONSIDER A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO BE 50 OR MORE YEARS OLD, MEET OUR CRITERIA, BUT THAT IT NOT BE LIMITED TO ARCHITECTURE, CULTURE ENGINEERING OR HISTORY.
AND IF YOU GO BACK TO OUR CRITERIA, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE IN THERE 50 YEARS, WHAT WAS IT? HEATHER ENGINEERING, GO BACK AGAIN.
I'M NOT DRIVING RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT SINCE IT'S A WORKSHOP.
ARCHITECTURE, CULTURE ENGINEERING HISTORY.
I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER THOSE FOUR WORDS.
PLUS 50 YEARS ARCHITECTURE, CULTURE ENGINEERING HISTORY.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CRITERIA, HEATHER, CAN YOU PLEASE PULL OUT ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING, HISTORY, AND CULTURE? YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THOUGH, ONE OF THE OARS IS THE STRUCTURE TO BE A PART OF A COPE.
UM, THE NUMBER NINE, THE STRUCTURE REPRESENTS AN ESTABLISHED AND FAMILIAR VISUAL FEATURE KNOW.
I THINK NUMBER 10 IS PART OF THE HISTORY.
THE STRUCTURE HAS YIELDED OR MAY LIKELY YIELD INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO PRE-HISTORY OR HISTORY.
UM, NUMBER SEVEN IS DEFINITELY INTACT AND IN LINE AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE CRITERIA.
UM, SAME WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING NUMBER SIX, THE STRUCTURE IS THE WORK OF A DESIGNER WHOSE WORK HAS INFLUENCED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT STONE.
SO NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT IT, AS LONG AS IT'S 50 YEARS OR OLDER, ONE OF THE ITEMS MIGHT BE THAT A SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECT OR DESIGNER WORKED ON THE STRUCTURE.
SO OUR CRITERIA THAT WORKS FOR US LOCALLY THAT BUILDS OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE LIST IS MUCH MORE ROBUST IN LAYERS THAN WHAT THE STATE LAYERS IS REQUIRING US TO HAVE.
AND SO I THINK THAT THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS OUR APPETITE TOWN COUNCIL? WHAT IS YOUR APPETITE TO DEFINE A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN, WE'RE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHILE OTHER STRUCTURE SHOULD, OR SHOULDN'T BE ON THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE LISTS THAT THE FIRST OR THE ONE, THE, THE ONE BIG ONE THAT, THAT YOU ALL SPOKE ABOUT WAS THE, UM, MESSICKS PROPERTY, THE OLD GAS STATION SLASH X BUILDING.
AS, AS, AS WE KNOW IT, THAT THE NEXT ONE MOST RECENTLY WAS THE GUCCIO RESIDENCE.
AND SO THOSE AT LEAST THOSE TWO FOLKS HAVE COME FORWARD TO THE TOWN AT SOME POINT AND SAID, I DON'T BELIEVE MY STRUCTURE IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND IF, AND IF IT WOULD HELP, WE COULD GET CLG BACK HERE AND SIMPLY PLACE THIS BACK ON A WORKSHOP ITEM AND GET THE CLG EXPERTS FROM THE STATE WHO REALLY DEFINE THAT CRITERIA AND KEEP OUR STATUS AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT LIVE IN WELL, BACK HERE FOR YOU.
WELL, MY SUGGESTION IS JUST A PRESERVATIONIST OR SOMEONE FROM THE STATE SAY, YES, Y'ALL ARE ON THE RIGHT PAGE.
THAT'S MY ONLY SUGGESTION ON IT UNTIL WE GET A PRESERVATIONIST PHONE STAFF THAT CAN HELP US.
ANYBODY ELSE? HEY, LARRY, WELCOME.
IF I, IF I COULD JUST HIT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, I THOUGHT ONE OF OUR MAIN OBJECTIVES ARE GOING TO BE FIRST OF ALL, THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO, WHO HAVE STRUCTURES THAT THEY, THEY MIGHT BE 51 YEARS OLD, AND THEY WERE PLANNING ON TEARING IT DOWN AND BUILDING A NEW HOUSE NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE PROTECTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS AND INTEREST, YOU KNOW, AFTER THEY'VE OWNED SOMETHING FOR 50 YEARS AND PAID TAXES ON IT, UM, ALL OF THESE STRUCTURES
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ARE MADE BY MEN AND EVERYTHING THAT MAN MAKES IS IT HAS A LIFE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A BOAT OR A HOUSE, OR EVEN A HUMAN BEING LIKE US, WE, WE ALL EXPIRE AT SOME POINT.SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE PROTECTION FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO THAT HAPPENED TO HAVE STRUCTURES THAT, THAT AREN'T WORTH SAVING.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY CAN'T MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIFE.
THEY CAN'T, UM, CAPITALIZE ON THEIR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIFETIME INVESTMENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR, OUR BIGGEST, MY, MY PERSONAL PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, I DON'T WANT TO TEAR DOWN ANYTHING THAT'S SIGNIFICANT EITHER, BUT THESE, THERE ARE STRUCTURES HERE RIGHT AROUND US THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD COST 20 TIMES MORE TO, TO TRY TO SAY, THEN SOMEONE COULD BUILD AN, A NEW MODERN HOME ON.
SO WE, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S, UH, UH, UH, SOME WORDING IN HERE TO PROTECT THEM AS FAR AS GIVING THEM A CHOICE OR, OR SOME TYPE OF HEADS UP ON, OH, OKAY.
YOUR HOUSE IS GOING TO BE 50 NEXT YEAR.
YOU KNOW, AFTER TOMORROW YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH MY THOUGHTS, MAYOR.
I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR THINKING.
I CONCUR WITH YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL.
AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE IT REVIEWED.
AND WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE 10 AND I'M LIKE, YOU, I, IT SEEMS TO ME A FEW YEARS AGO, IT WAS THREE OR FOUR.
IT HAD TO MEET THREE OR FOUR STANDARDS.
UH, I WOULD, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, WE ONLY HAVE TWO ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER RIGHT NOW.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT'S AN EXTREME SITUATION.
THEY HAVE TO RISE TO A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF STANDARD TO MAKE THAT DESIGNATION.
SO I DON'T NECESSARILY SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE OTHER CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ARE GOING TO EVER ACCOMPLISH THAT.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THE STANDARD TO BECOME A CONTRIBUTING STANDARD, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER STANDARD.
SO WHEN YOU, WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU GOT 10 ITEMS HERE.
ONE MAKES IT AWFULLY EASY TO JUST ABOUT CALLING ANYTHING, A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
SO I WOULD LIKE A SECOND OPINION ON THAT.
AND THAT, THAT ACTUALLY COVERS LARRY'S CONCERN.
I MEAN, IN A FEW YEARS, MINE'S GOING TO BE IT, BUT NONE OF THESE OTHER THINGS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AGE, SHOULDN'T MAKE IT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.
AND I THINK, LIKE I SAID, LET'S GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, LET THEM LOOK AT IT, TELL THEM OUR CONCERNS.
AND, AND MAYBE IT'S FIVE OF THE ITEMS, OR I WOULD RATHER SOMEONE TELL US, SO, OKAY.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY CERTAINLY WILL DO THAT.
UM, I HAVE HAD A CHANCE OF THE, THE LIST THAT WE DEVELOPED HERE WAS ACTUALLY DRAFTED FROM THE, THE MODEL ORDINANCE, UM, FROM STATE ARCHIVES.
SO I WILL, I WILL CIRCLE BACK AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SIMPLIFYING THEM, LIKE YOU SAID, MAKING MULTIPLE.
AND THEN ALSO TOO, JUST THE WAY THERE'S NO AUTOMATIC DESIGNATION OF BEING A CONTRIBUTING STOCK STRUCTURE.
ALL THE STRUCTURES WOULD GO THROUGH, UM, ESSENTIALLY A REZONING PROCESS WITH THE NOTIFICATION OF, UM, THAT YOU'RE BEING CONSIDERED FOR WHATEVER REASON.
AND WE'VE ALSO HAD, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN COME TO US AND REQUEST THAT THEY BE, UM, CONSIDERED DESIGNATION.
THE OTHER THING I DID WANT TO ADD IS WE DID BRING THIS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AS A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY.
AND THEY HAD THE SAME COMMENTS AS FAR AS NOTIFICATION.
AND ONCE WE DID CONSIDERED ANY REVISIONS TO THE LIST THAT, UM, WE, WE PROVIDE THIS VERY CLEAR, UM, COMMUNICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS, AS FAR AS, UM, THE LIST.
CAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S, UH, JUST IT JUST IN THE PAST, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD? WELL, YOU HEARD LARRY'S CONCERNS.
I THINK THAT HITS ON A, ON A SEGMENT OF OUR AREA.
AND I THINK IT FILTERS IN WITH, WITH OUR THOUGHTS OF, LET'S NOT JUST HAVE ONE OF THESE AND IT IS BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY NOT FAIR TO SOME OF THESE HOMES JUST BECAUSE IT'S 50 YEARS OLD.
IT MAY NOT HAVE NO STORY MAY HAVE NO HISTORY.
I REALLY YOU'VE GOT OUR COMMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE? THIS IS A WORKSHOP ITEM.
I'M A SLIGHTLY CONFUSED ABOUT WHY WE, WHY WE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
IF WE CAN'T, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS OR MAKE ANY OPINION OF OUR OWN RIGHT NOW, THE 10 THAT WE HAVE IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S OPINION ALREADY.
SO SHOULDN'T, WE SHOULDN'T, WE HAVE SOME OPINION ON 'EM BEFORE WE PASS
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IT OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE THEY GOING TO COME BACK AND THEN WE STILL GOT TO, WE STILL HAVE TO CIPHER THROUGH IT TO SEE WHAT WE LIKE OR DON'T LIKE.SO I THINK, I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THE STAFF BRINGING IT TO US IS FOR US TO GIVE THEM MORE DIRECTION.
I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE THAT IT'S 50 YEARS OR OLDER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT LARRY SAID.
AND, UM, PLEASE GIVE THEM YOUR INPUT.
IT SHOULDN'T BE, IT SHOULDN'T BE BASED ON AGE AND, AND ALSO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A SEGMENT IN THERE WHERE WE WILL BE, UM, LOOK AT HARDSHIP TO, TO THE OWNER, BECAUSE IF, ONCE WE MAKE THAT DECISION, THEN WE PULLED IN ANOTHER HARDSHIP TO SOMEONE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL, UM, MEANS TO, TO, TO REHAB THE PROPERTY.
SO LET'S THAT THE WORKSHOP IS IMPORTANT THEN I JUST DON'T WANT TO PASS IT OFF WITHOUT HAVING ENOUGH DIRECTION TO STYLE.
A LOT OF IT GOES BACK TO THAT.
WE ARE A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO WE'VE GOT TO LOOK IF WE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT ANYMORE, THEN IT'S ONE LESS THING WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A HARDSHIP, BUT HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE IF IT'S IMPORTANT? UM, AND MY SUGGESTION IS LET'S, I WOULD LOVE THAT OPINION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ADD THREE OR FIVE OF THESE HAVE TO BE, UM, IN PLACE.
AND THEN MAYBE IT'S A SIT DOWN WITH, WITH STAFF AND WHOEVER, IF THERE IS A HARDSHIP, HOW, IF IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HISTORY, UM, HOW CAN WE HELP SOMEBODY IF IT IS IMPORTANT TO US, UM, TO KEEP THE HISTORY OF, AND THE HERITAGE OF OUR PEOPLE WAY BEFORE US IN TACK, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE LOT ON THIS.
I GREW UP IN A TOWN WHERE IF IT WAS OLD, THEY JUST TORE IT DOWN AND YOU GO THROUGH MY TOWN TODAY AND IT'S ANYWHERE SOUTH CAROLINA, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE UNIQUENESS OF ARVIN GARVEY HOUSE, THE PRAISE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, I, SO IF WE WANT TO BE A DISTRICT, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME STRUCTURE IN PLACE, BUT CASE BY CASE BASIS, HOW TO HELP THOSE WITH HARDSHIP.
I AGREE WITH THAT MAYOR, THAT THERE'S HAS TO BE A CLAUSE IN HERE THAT SAYS CASE BY CASE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT SOMETHING AND YOU, AND EVEN THOUGH IT MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT BY SOME SIGNIFICANT BUILDER, THAT'S BEEN DEAD FOR 200 YEARS.
I MEAN, IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU CAN'T FEASIBLY RESTORE IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN IT SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO TEAR IT DOWN OR EITHER THE TOWNS SHOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND FUND THE REHAB.
I DON'T THINK THE FULL BURDEN SHOULD BE GOING TO THE OWNER OF A, OF A STRUCTURE THAT ACTUALLY MEETS SOME OF THE CRITERIA AND THE MORE CRITERIA ON THIS LIST THAT MAKE IT THE, THE BETTER AND THE MORE PLACES SO THAT IT WILL ELIMINATE ALL SHOWS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT YOU GOT SOME GOOD POINTS, BUT, BUT THE POINT THAT I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE, WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS BLUFFTON.
WE CAN'T MAKE IT, UM, SOMEWHERE USA LIKE THE, MY, MY FATHER FOUND TO BE, SO LET'S MAKE IT BLUFFTON.
AND HOW CAN DO THE ONLY WAY I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, UM, FAIRLY IS TO LOOK AT THIS LIST AND FIND OUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO BLUFFTON.
AND THEN LET'S TRY TO BE, IS AS CAREFUL AS WE CAN ABOUT POSING FINANCIAL, UM, HARDSHIP ON, ON, ON PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO BE HAPPY.
AND I THINK I LIKE THE FACT THAT JUST THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID AS WELL, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD, IF THAT'S, IF, IF THAT IS A HARDSHIP, THEN WE CAN LOOK FOR SOME TYPES OF GRANTS OR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO IF THAT, THAT, THAT SCRATCHES THE DATA IMPORTANT TO US, THAT WE TRY TO HELP THAT, UM, THAT HOMEOWNER, UH, PRESERVE.
CAN I JUST AN EXAMPLE? WELL, TWO EXAMPLES AND SO FUNNY, JOHN GRAVES CALLED ME TODAY IS HIS FAMILY ON THE GRAVES HOUSE.
AND WE JUST KIND OF REMINISCED ABOUT THE GRACE HOUSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S LIVING IN A, IS TWO SEGMENTS, SO HEATHER AND I HOPE YOU'RE TAKING NOTES.
SO SOMEONE'S LIVING IN A HOUSE, THEY'VE LIVED IT IN ALL THEIR LIVES.
IT HAS FIVE OF THESE ITEMS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S
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THE CASE BY CASE BASIS.BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND BUYS THE STRUCTURE AND THEN TELLS US IT'S A HARD CHIP, THEY NEED TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE OF WHAT THAT STRUCTURE WAS.
AND THAT WAS THE CASE WITH THE GRAVES' HOUSE, AS WELL AS THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S LISTED FOR SALE AGAIN, ACROSS FROM ALL CHEVRON, YOU KNOW, THEY BOUGHT IT, KNOWING THAT IT MATCHED, IT WAS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
SO I THINK IN THAT CASE, THEY BUYER, YOU KNOW, BUYER BEWARE.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING AND NOT SAY IT'S A HARDSHIP NOW.
SO I THINK THAT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE HELP, WHAT HARDSHIP IS.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU GOT THAT, HEATHER? DID YOU GET HELP FROM US? YES, I BELIEVE I HEARD YOUR CONCERNS, UM, MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY SAY, WELL, WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THAT AND, UM, ADDRESS IT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IT SOUNDS, IT'S A SEGUE TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP ITEM, WHICH IS A RELATED TOPIC.
BUT, UM, AND LIKE I DID SAY, UM, JUST REITERATE AND WE CAN PACKAGE IT ALL UP IN ONE, UM, SUMMARY DOCUMENT, AS WELL AS A LOT OF THIS, WE, WE ARE GETTING IN LINE TO ADDRESS THOSE, UM, ECONOMIC INCENTIVES AND THE BAILEY BILL THAT WE WORKSHOPPED LAST MONTH.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAID A LOT OF THESE GO PARTNERED HAND IN HAND, UM, TO WORK TOGETHER.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE YOU MOVE ON? BECAUSE I COULDN'T TELL A RESOURCE MAP WAS WORKSHOP ITEM TWO OR THREE, BUT MARK HAD ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT ONE TIME ABOUT OUR OWN TOWN HALL.
WHY IS THAT? AND I DON'T SEE IT ON THIS MAP.
WHY ISN'T THAT ON IT? I AGREE WITH THEM.
IT HITS EVERY SINGLE, EVERY SINGLE NUMBER OF THE 10.
AND THEN WHY ARE THE CODES CONSIDER CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES? BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE 10 REASONS, IT SHOULD BE ONE, THEY, THE COVES I BELIEVE ARE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, SO THAT'S WHY THEY ARE ON THE LIST.
UM, WHY TOWN HALL? ISN'T ON THE LIST? WASN'T PART OF THAT 2008 SURVEY.
WOULD IT QUALIFY? AND COULD WE ADD IT TO THE LIST? UM, CERTAINLY.
I MEAN, NOT TOOK IT FROM MARK, SO I THOUGHT MARK HAD A GREAT IDEA.
I MEAN, IT'S CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
IT'S JUST SUCH A MUSEUM IN ITSELF.
SO WE ARE, UM, ITEM NUMBER, WHAT ARE WE ON THREE WORKSHOP ITEM THREE.
AND THIS IS THE UNINHABITED STRUCTURES.
FOR THOSE OF YOU SCROLLING ON YOUR TABLET.
HEATHER, AND THIS IS A WORKSHOP ITEM.
YES, YET AGAIN, SORRY, BEAR WITH ME AGAIN.
WANT TO MAKE SURE I KEEP ALL THESE DOCUMENTS STRAIGHT? SORRY, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I WAS UP HERE.
THIS IS RELATED TO YOU CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AS WELL.
THIS IS, UM, WHAT WE'RE REFERRED, WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS PROACTIVE PRESERVATION OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES OR WHAT HAD BEEN REFERRED TO IN THE PAST, OR, UM, HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS, AS, UH, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT ORDINANCE.
SO THIS AGAIN IS, UM, ONE OF THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AGENDA ITEMS THAT TOWN COUNCIL REQUESTED STAFF, UH, REVIEW AND, UM, BRING PROPOSALS FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
WE DID HAVE A WORKSHOP ON, ON THIS ITEM, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED THE MAINTENANCE OF HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE STRUCTURES THAT ARE, UM, ON THAT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES LIST AS APPROVED, UM, BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
SO THIS, WHAT STAFF HAS DONE IS RESEARCHED VARIOUS WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT IN ADDITION TO SUPPLEMENTING THAT UNSAFE UNINHABITED STRUCTURES, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY, UM, INCLUDED IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENT.
SO JUST OUTLINING AGAIN, WHAT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ARE, WHICH WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH.
UM, AND JUST INDICATING THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, UM, THE PROPOSAL AS FAR AS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND HE, UM, HAS REVIEWED THAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED, UM, BEFORE YOU, AND WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS
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THE PROCESS THAT REALLY OUTLINES WHAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND WHETHER IT'S, UM, AGAIN, AND IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THOSE STRUCTURES, LIKE SPEND MENTIONED THE GRAVES' HOUSE, THE GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, UM, PREVIOUSLY AT STRUCTURES THAT, UM, ARE IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.AGAIN, THIS JUST OUTLINES THE NEXT STEPS.
THIS WOULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AS WELL AS BACK TO YOU ALL FOR FIRST READING, AS WELL AS SECOND AND FINAL READING IN THE ATTACHMENT.
UM, THIS IS ALL A BRAND NEW SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
IT WOULD, UM, BE AS PART OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
AND AGAIN, IT JUST OUTLINES THE, AGAIN, PROACTIVE PRESERVATION.
SO THE INTENT IS TO, UM, TO AVOID THAT DETERIORATION OR ONCE THE DETERIORATION REALLY PROGRESS IS THAT THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE TO, TO RECTIFY THAT, TO NOTIFY THE OWNER, MEET WITH THE OWNER, ESTABLISH A PLAN.
AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON THAT CAN'T HAPPEN, UM, HOW THE TOWN MAY ASSIST OUTLINES THOSE CONDITIONS OF NEGLECT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY ARE, UM, THAT ARE HERE ON THE SCREEN.
SO JUST OUTLINES WHAT THOSE GENERAL, UH, CHARACTERISTICS ARE AS WELL AS AGAIN, OUTLINES THAT PROCESS.
SO HOW IT WOULD BE INITIATED, UM, WHETHER IT'S INITIATED BY THE OWNER, A, UM, RESIDENT OR A COUNT STAFF.
AND AGAIN, JUST GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT ENTAILS THIS AS IT'S PROPOSED AND FROM, UH, PREVIOUS DIRECTION AT THIS TIME, WE'RE JUST PROPOSING THAT IT APPLY TO JUST, AGAIN, THAT APPROVED CONTRIBUTE STRUCTURES THAT ARE LISTED ON THAT INTERESTING STRUCTURES LIST.
AGAIN, JUST THE PROCESS, THE REMEDIES, UM, PENALTIES AND, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO JUST EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
UM, THIS IS JUST FOR HISTORIC AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
UM, IN THE PAST, THERE WAS A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT ORDINANCE.
UM, SO THIS IS FOR REFERENCE AS FAR AS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, BUT HAD SINCE BEEN ELIMINATED AND ALL OF THESE AREN'T INCLUDED IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS, AND THIS IS THE MAP LARGER, AND HERE'S THAT HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY MAP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THAT LAST WORKSHOP ITEM.
SO THIS IS THE WAY THE PROPOSALS DRAFTED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AS A WORKSHOP ITEM IS THAT THIS IS THE LIST OF STRUCTURES THAT IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THAT IT WOULD APPLY TO, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR SCROLL TO SPECIFIC SECTIONS, UM, TO ADDRESS THEM.
SO THIS IS HEATHER, AS THIS WILL GO TO, THIS ACTUALLY COMES BACK TO US.
IT DOESN'T GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT? IT WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT WILL BE A PART OF THE UDL.
SO IT WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN FIRST AND SECOND READING TO TOWN COUNCIL YOU'RE RIGHT.
ANY SUGGESTIONS OR HELP FOR HEATHER TO TAKE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MAYOR? I, I HAD ONE QUESTION.
AND IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME, UM, A SECOND QUESTION SINCE WE'RE STILL ON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND I DIDN'T THINK OF THIS A SECOND AGO, I'LL FOLLOW UP, UH, ON PAGE 92, FEDERAL POLICE FOR DEMOLITION HEATHER PENALTY.
I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO GO KNOCK DOWN A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TODAY, ARE WE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO GET A $500 FINE.
WELL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THOSE ALIGN WITH WHAT, WHATEVER WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO AS PART OF BDO, BUT IT WOULD, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, BUT IT COULD BE THAT PLUS COURT COSTS.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IS THAT THERE'D BE MORE VIOLATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND THAT WOULD BE, WE COULD REALLY LOSE SOME LARGE PORTIONS OF OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE LIST.
UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION I'VE BEEN THINK OF TILL NOW, BACK ON THE SECTION BEFORE, BUT, UH, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ON THE LIST FROM 2008.
A MOMENT AGO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 50 YEARS WOULD POSSIBLY MAKE A NEW CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
IF WE HAVE FIVE OR 10 HOUSES THAT JUST WENT UP PAST 50, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR COUNCIL
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TO HAVE, SAY IN WHAT GOES ON TO THE NEW CONTRIBUTORS? WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, UM, THE ITEM BEFORE WAS REFERRING TO.SO THERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE WORKED WITH A, WE RECEIVED A GRANT AND WE WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT TO, TO GATHER NEW DATA.
SO A REVISED, UH, SURVEY, SO TO SPEAK JUST SIMPLY THE DATA.
WHAT DO WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW? HOW OLD IS IT? WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS? SO WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, REVIEWING THAT, THE DATA, THAT DATA LIST, WHAT WILL THE NEXT STEPS OF THAT IS THAT COME WILL COME BEFORE YOU TO, TO CONSIDER WHAT ITEM, WHICH STRUCTURES WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE USING THAT 2008 LISTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
YOU CAN, UM, THERE'S A PROCESS IN THE UDL, LIKE WE SAID, WHERE YOU CAN REQUEST, UM, DESIGNATION AND TO BE ADDED, ADDED TO THAT LIST, OR THE STAFF IS WHERE REVIEWING THAT DATA NOW.
AND AS PART OF THESE WORKSHOP ITEMS, WE'LL BRING TO YOU EITHER REVISED CRITERIA THAT YOU WOULD USE TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ADDED.
SO IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UM, A REZONING, SO TO SPEAK, TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION OR REVIEW OR REGULATIONS, AS FAR AS YOU'RE DETERMINED TO BE A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
SO ULTIMATELY IT WOULD BE TALENTED.
THE REASON I ASKED THE QUESTION IS THE CONCERNS THAT WE ALL HAVE, THE ONES THAT LARRY BROUGHT UP AND FRED BROUGHT UP, WE WILL HAVE THAT PROCESSED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR HEATHER ON THIS WORKSHOP ITEM? IT'S NOT, YOU'VE GOT DIRECTION.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION GREAT.
MOVING TO FORMAL ITEMS? THERE ARE SEVEN ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
SO WE WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, UM, WHICH HAS PAGE 95 ON YOUR TABLETS.
IF YOU'RE IN MY WORLD, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER FIVE, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION CODE, ARTICLE ONE ADMINISTRATION DIVISION, UM, 18 CONSTRUCTION SITE, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND SITE PREPARATION FOR SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS.
THIS IS FIRST OF THE TWO READINGS AND HEATHER, THIS IS YOUR NIGHT.
AND HEY, MATT, THIS, UM, AGAIN, YOU HEARD THIS AS A WORKSHOP ITEM.
UM, PRIOR I, WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS.
THIS IS PART OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES.
SO IT DID NOT, UM, WAS NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS AGAIN, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO ADDRESS CONSTRUCTION SITE, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DURING BOTH NON-EMERGENCY EVENTS, AS WELL AS EMERGENCY EVENTS.
SO IN RECENT YEARS, IT'S, UM, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SITES ARE SAFE, THAT THEY'RE, UM, WELL-MAINTAINED, AND THAT THERE'S, UM, LIMITED TO NO OPPORTUNITY FOR DEBRIS TO, UM, TO BECOME AIRBORNE, COME OFF THE SITE OR, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE ALREADY WORK WITH CONTRACTORS AND OUR SITE INSPECTORS, UM, BUILDING INSPECTORS, GO OUT AND, AND REALLY COMMUNICATE WITH, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENTS ON SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, UM, THAT THEY ARE WELL-MAINTAINED, BUT MOVING FORWARD TO CODIFY THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS AGAIN, UM, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE INCLUDED HERE IN THE PACKET.
AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NOT, WE'VE NOT MADE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES SINCE THE WORKSHOP ITEM.
THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS WHEN THE, UM, EMERGENCY PROVISIONS, UM, FOR SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS DID TAKE PLACE.
AND, UM, IT IS, UH, WE'LL SCROLL HERE TO GET IT HERE, BUT, UM, IT'S BASICALLY AT THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN MANAGER AND EVENT, THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT, UH, SEVERE WEATHER EVENT, OR WHENEVER THERE IS A, UM, WARNING ISSUED FOR BUFORD COUNTY.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS ALL OUTLINED HERE IN THE ORDINANCE, UM, THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
SO WE'VE WORKSHOPPED THIS, AND YOU INCLUDED OUR COMMENTS THEN HAVE Y'ALL DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS IT'S FIRST READING WE'LL HAVE SECOND READING NEXT MONTH.
ANY COMMENTS OR CHANGES THAT YOU SEE? I HAVE JUST ONE COMMENT, HEATHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, IF EVERYONE AGREES OR NOT, BUT WHEN,
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WHEN WE GET UNDER A ORDER OF WHAT, WHAT WE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST, WHEN A LOCAL TYPE BUFORD COUNTY PUTS OUT AN ORDER FOR A TROPICAL STORM WARNING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE STATE REGULATES US AS NO EXCUSES.IF IT'S ON THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WHERE THE, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUES, A, UM, TROPICAL STORM WARNING, OR A HURRICANE, WHATEVER, WARNING THEM, THAT'S THAT'S LAW, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR CHANGE YOUR WAYS, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE SIMPLER.
FIRST THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THAT I SEE AS CONSTRUCTION SITES ARE GOING TO NOT GET THE NOTIFICATION.
SO I DIDN'T, NOBODY TOLD ME I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT TYPE DEAL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY ELSE OR NOT, BUT IT COULD, UM, CLARIFY IT AND MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO ENFORCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS YOU'RE TRYING TO LAYER IN ON, ON THE SECTION FIVE, TWO 72, WHAT THE INTENT IS, UM, BECAUSE BE SOMETHING BESIDES, UH, A TROPICAL STORM OR HURRICANE, IT COULD BE A THUNDER STORM WARNINGS OR SAW, I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE WOULD CHANGE THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR, UH, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, BUT I SEE WHERE I AM QUOTED IN THE, UM, IN SECTION, UM, FIVE, TWO 73, WHERE SHE TALKING ABOUT NON-EMERGENCY SITUATIONS TOO.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO COMPLICATE IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY DON'T WE, I THINK IT'S GOOD.
I THINK THAT IT'S PUTTING THESE DEVELOPERS KIND OF WHERE THEY GOT TO KEEP THEIR SITES CLEAN.
AND IF I CAN PROMISE WE'LL GET THE CALLS, IF IT WAS AGAIN, I THINK WE EDUCATE AND ADVOCATE DON'T WE, BEFORE WE TRY TO PENALIZE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? LARRY? I'M FINE.
WITH THE LOW, YOU KNOW, MY POINT WAS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT GETS THEIR INFORMATION FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
DID YOU ADDRESS WHAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT? OH, NO.
I WAS SAYING THAT THE, UM, THE CONCERN THAT, THAT EITHER YOU OR LARRY, I WASN'T SURE ON A NON-EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT I WAS ASKING, IS IT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE, UM, SECTION TOWARDS THE END OF THE, UM, THE ORDINANCE HERE IN SECTION FIVE TO SEVEN, THREE, NUMBER EIGHT? I SEE THAT.
I THINK THAT THAT DOES HIT THE NON, WHEN IT, WHEN EOC IS CALLED IN.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR CHANGES TO THIS? THIS IS FIRST READING.
UM, IF NOTHING ELSE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING OF AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER FIVE OFFICIAL CONSTRUCTION CODE, ARTICLE ONE, ADMINISTRATE THE CREATE DIVISION 18 CONSTRUCTION SITE, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND SITE PREPARATION FOR SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS.
SO IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? WE'LL SEE THIS NEXT MONTH.
ALL IN FAVOR, START BY SAYING AYE.
THAT'S UNANIMOUS ITEM TWO, PAGE ONE OH FOUR FOR THE TABLET'S CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN GENERAL STANDARDS RELATED TO HISTORIC DISTRICT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND LOT SIZES.
FIRST READING FOR HEATHER PAGE ONE OF FOUR, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, SOME MORE AMENDMENTS TO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, THESE AMENDMENTS.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, WORKSHOP AS FAR AS, UH, THEY ARE WHAT'S IN ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
MANY OF THESE ARE ITEMS THAT, UH, WE'VE JUST FOUND OVER THE YEARS, EITHER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WAS MAKING CONSISTENT, UM, DECISIONS ON DIFFERENT MATERIAL TYPES OR, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO JUST GOING THROUGH AND RECTIFYING THAT AND, UM, REACHED OUT TO LOCAL ARCHITECTS AND THE HPC HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, AS FAR AS THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE, UH, REVISED SLIGHTLY.
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FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I ALWAYS USE IS SHUTTER DOGS.THE UDL WAS VERY SPECIFIC ON A TYPE OF SHUTTER DOG, WHICH IS THE BRACKET THAT'S USED TO KEEP OPEN AND OPERABLE SHUTTER, UM, TO ALLOW DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, TREATMENTS OF THAT NATURE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, SET OF AMENDMENTS IS LOT SIZES, LOT SIZES, UM, HAVE IT'S BECOME NOTICEABLE THAT, UH, OUR PERMITTED LOT SIZES IN OUR FORM-BASED CODE ARE, UH, VERY SMALL IN WIDTH AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE REVIEWED, UM, TO CONSIDER, UM, REQUIRING A 50 FOOT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, THE HPC, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UM, BASED THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID TABLE, UH, THE LOT SIZE PORTION OF THE AMENDMENTS AND RE RE REVIEWED THAT LAST MONTH AND HAD SOME, AND MADE SOME DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS I WILL PULL IT UP HERE, UH, WHAT THOSE LOT WIDTHS ARE AND THAT'S BASED ON SOME RESEARCH AND WHAT THEY FOUND, UM, SIMILAR LOTS WERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THESE, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR TOWN STAFF TO REVIEW AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, AS FAR AS, UM, CONTINUING TO REVIEW THESE, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UM, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, APPROVED IN PART OR, UM, IT WOULD MOVE TO SECOND AND FINAL READING AT THE, UM, NEXT MONTH'S TOWN COUNCIL MEETING B.
WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKET IS THE PROPOSAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN MODIFY THIS OR REVISE THIS, UH, HOWEVER, UH, YOU ALL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED IS SLIGHT MODIFICATION, NOT A UNIFORM, UM, INCREASED TO 50 FEET.
SO THE LARGER BUILDING TYPE, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE FORM BASED CODE, IT'S BASED ON WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING IT IS YOU'D LIKE TO DO ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IF IT'S A MAIN STREET BUILDING, UM, 50 FOOT, LOT, LOT WIDTH, UM, AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS SOME OF THE SMALLER, UH, TYPE OF UNITS TO INCREASE IT, BUT TO NOT MAKE IT A UNIFORM 50 FEET.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THEY ALSO, UH, REQUIRED THAT, UM, IF THEY, SOME OF THOSE USES, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY USE A, AN ALLEY, UM, TO BETTER SUIT THE SMALLER LOT WIDTHS AGAIN.
UM, ALL OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE LISTED HERE IN THAT UNDERLINED, UM, FONT THAT WE USE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST, UM, ACKNOWLEDGING SOME CONSISTENT DECISIONS.
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAS BEEN SEEING THROUGH THE YEARS AND INPUT FROM, UH, LOCAL ARCHITECTS AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS PACKET HERE, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UM, OR WHEREVER YOU'D LIKE ME TO, TO STOP HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL? I HAVE ONE MIRROR, HEATHER, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY READ THIS AS CLOSE AS I SHOULD HAVE THIS IN IT.
THIS DOES NOT AFFECT, UM, GARAGE APARTMENTS.
IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE USAGE OF GARAGE DEPARTMENTS.
THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURE, THE ACTUAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
IT ALLOWS MORE FLEXIBILITY, MORE DIFFERENT, UM, MODERN, UM, BUILDING, UM, EXCUSE ME, BUILDING MATERIALS AND TYPES.
UM, IT IS MEANT TO PROVIDE JUST MORE, UM, MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREATMENTS AND CONSISTENT WORDING.
UM, THROUGHOUT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE HERE DOWN HERE, WATER TABLE AND TRIM, AND THEN THE NEXT LINE INSTEAD OF WATER OR FOR TOYS, DIRT BOARD.
SO, UM, SOME OF IT IS JUST, UH, RECTIFYING SOME INCONSISTENCIES, BUT IT WOULD NOT AFFECT GARAGE APARTMENT, THE USES OR, UM, OVERALL GENERAL, THE LOT SIZE FOR ONE IS WHAT I WAS THE LOT SIZE HERE.
LET'S SEE, I'LL SCROLL UP JUST FOR GARAGE APARTMENTS.
I UNDERSTAND THE REST OF IT, RIGHT.
IT WOULD BE THE MAIN, UM, IT WOULD BE WHATEVER THE MAIN MAIN BUILDING IS.
SO IF IT'S A LIVE WORK SIDE, YARD IT 35 TO 40 FEET, ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE WOULD BE 30 TO 40 FEET, LOT WIDTH.
BUT IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING LOT OF RECORD, IT WOULD NOT.
IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING LOT OF RECORD, WE WOULD REVIEW WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, AND WHAT IT CLOSELY ALIGNS WITH AND HOW YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD.
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GOTCHA.THIS ISN'T MEANT TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT, RIGHT? YES.
UM, SO HEATHER, ON THE PAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT IT PLAYING ANY COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, IT IT'S, UM, I MEAN, IT'S WIDER THAN WE HAVE NOW, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOO SMALL NOW.
UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S MAYBE A GOOD STARTING POINT.
UM, THEY DID RECOMMEND AGAIN THAT YOU USE ALLEYS OR, UM, OTHER WAYS TO GET TO THE PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY, THEIR INTENT WAS.
WE LOOKED LOOKING AT THE WHARF STREET, LOTS, WHICH ARE ABOUT 40 FEET IN WIDTH.
UM, SAW THAT AS A PROJECT THAT MOVED FORWARD, UM, WITH POSITIVE IMPACTS.
WE, IF SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY CHANGE IT, IF IT'S, UM, TO, TO KEEP CHANGING IT, BUT IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WE CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE IT.
UM, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A MEANS FOR A VARIANCE.
IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S WIDER THAN WE HAVE NOW, WHICH WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SMALL LOTS, UM, BUT IS 50 FEET WRONG OR 40 FEET, I WOULD SAY, NO, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS, BUT, UM, THIS IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR YES OR NO, BUT LOOKING AT ALL THIS, I TALKED TO A LOT OF BUILDERS AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT WHAT I'M EDUCATED IN.
SO I WOULD ASK, HAS HPC LOOKED AT IT AS WE GOT INPUT FROM BUILDERS.
TELL ME THERE'S SOME PLACES YOU CAN'T DO AN ALLEY IN OLD TOWN, AND I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND CHANGE JUST IN A YEAR.
I'VE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY SAID 50 WORDS AND NOT TO, YOU KNOW, HOUSES ALREADY BUILT.
THAT'S HOW THOSE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.
THEY CAN ADD THEIR GARAGE AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD.
BUT, UM, 50 FEET GIVES MORE ABILITY TO HAVE A GARAGE APARTMENT IN BACK, HONESTLY THAN A 40 FOOT LIGHT.
A LOT OF BLUFFTON WAS BUILT ON BIG LOTS.
SO OPT FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT 50.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THINK, IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS AND YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME AND SAY, WELL, WE CAN CHANGE IT LATER.
THAT TO ME MEANS WE'RE NOT TOTALLY SOLD ON THE SLIGHT CHANGE.
DOES THIS ALSO AFFECT SQUARE FOOTAGE ON LOTS OR WE, IS THAT ANOTHER CODE? NO, BUT THERE ARE, UM, THERE'S THIS BUILD TWO LINES AND, UM, THE SETBACKS.
WELL, LET ME BACK UP, FOR EXAMPLE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE CROSS THE FRONT THEY'RE 40? THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING BROUGHT UP TO US BEFORE, BUT THEY ALL WERE DESIGNED AROUND ALLEYS ONE BIG PLOT OF LAND.
NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIT THAT SAME LOOK ON A LOT OR TWO LIKE WAR GERARD STREET.
I REMEMBER THE THOUGHT WAS TO DO AN ALLEY DOWN GERARD STREET.
IT DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE THE TYPE OF HOUSES DIDN'T WORK ON THE LOTS WITH AN ALLEY.
SO YES, THOSE ARE 40 FOOT LOTS, DAN, AND THEN YOU HAVE SET BACKS, BUT IT WAS ONE BIG PALLET THAT WAS PLANNED WITH EVERY, YOU KNOW, IT, WASN'T A LOT HERE AND A LOT THERE AND PEOPLE SUBDIVIDING.
I THINK IT'S JUST SUCH A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC THAN WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 30 ACRES OF LAND AND YOU CAN PLAN YOUR SET AND YOUR COMPLAIN, YOUR ALLEYS AND YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
I JUST LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT LARRY STREET.
THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE ALL SUBDIVIDED INTO 50.
I MEAN, I COULD GO HIGHER, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE HIGHER, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A FEW LESS HOUSES HISTORY TOO.
AND, AND IT DIDN'T WOULDN'T LOOK SO CLUTTERED.
THAT'S JUST WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IN TOWN AND BUILDERS TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ON SUCH SMALL LOTS.
THERE'S NOWHERE TO PUT YOUR DUMPSTER.
THERE'S NOWHERE TO EVERYBODY'S ON A SIDEWALK.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER COUNSEL? I'M SORRY, LISA, I'M SORRY, MAYOR.
I'VE BEEN TAKING SOME NOTES AND IT'S SOMEWHAT EASY
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FOR ME NOTES AND TRY TO ASSIST STAFF ALONG THE WAY.WHAT WOULD COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW? IS THAT THE WORKSHOP I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR.
YOU GAVE SOME DIRECTION AS A COUNSEL TO CONFER STAFF TO CONSIDER A MINIMUM 50 FOOT LOT WITH IN A STAFF, BROUGHT THAT FORWARD AND ASSESSED IT.
I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SOME GREAT IDEAS AND GREAT CONCEPTS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, BUT WITH SOME OTHER VARIOUS, UM, SOLUTIONS SUCH AS DIFFERENT LOT SIZES IN DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, STAFF IS WORKING ON THE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTIES AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOMES.
HEATHER, WHERE DOES THIS REALLY TAKE EFFECT? HISTORIC DISTRICT BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS VILLE GUILTY ONLY.
IT'S NOT THE P IT'S THE P THE IS WOULDN'T BE BOUND BY THIS OR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND SO THIS, THIS IS ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SMALLER, THE LOT, THE HIGHER THE DENSITY, UM, THE SMALLER, THE LOT, THE SMALLER, THE HOUSING TYPE AS A SOLUTION.
I THINK IT IS JUST THAT W WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO HEAR FROM TOWN COUNCIL IS IF YOU REMAIN STEADFAST IN YOUR 50 FOOT MINIMUM, OR IF YOU BELIEVE THAT STAFF'S, UM, STAFF SOLUTION TO PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTION, ACCOMPLISHES WHAT YOU SET US OFF TO DO, I'M FINE WITH 50 AS A STANDARD, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS, RIGHT? UM, UH, QUESTION LEGAL QUESTION, I GUESS, WHAT IF, WHAT IF SOMEBODY ONLY HAS A 40, 45 FOOT LOT? YOU KNOW, WHAT IF, WHAT IF, WHAT IF THAT LOCKS, THIS, THIS WON'T AFFECT ANYTHING OTHER THAN NEW SUBDIVISIONS, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS THERE? IF THEY HAVE A LOT THAT'S LESS THAN THE 50 FEET, 50 FEET IS THE MINIMUM THAT'S APPROVED.
IF THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT LOT, THAT'S LESS THAN THAT, THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD WHATEVER USE IS ALLOWED THERE.
AND WE WOULD FIND WHAT'S CLOSEST BECAUSE WE, WE ALREADY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
UM, THAT NOW THERE ARE EXISTING LOTS OF RECORD THAT, UM, LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING EXISTING, LOTS OF RECORD THAT WE THEN HAVE TO APPLY THE CLOSEST LOT TYPE TO IT.
THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO FURTHER SUBDIVIDE.
HOWEVER, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT MINIMUM 50 FOOT WIDE, LOT THAT DOCUMENTED AND NONCONFORMING, THAT WOULD BE IN THE NON-CONFORMING SECTION OF THE VIDEO.
WE CAN SPELL IT OUT CLEAR, UM, THROUGH HERE, BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE, THAT WOULD JUST BE HOW WE ADDRESS ANY LEGALLY NON-CONFORMITY.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT CHAPTER NUMBER THAT IS REALLY CHAPTER SEVEN.
SO IF WE, IF WE APPROVE THIS 50 FOOT LOT, UM, HOW CAN WE GRANDFATHER, THOSE THAT HAVE LESS THAN 50 FOOT NOW THAT THEY STILL COULD MEET A HOUSING SIZE TO MEET THOSE MEET, TO, TO, TO FIT THE FOOTPRINT? WELL, THIS WOULD, THIS IS JUST FOR NEW SUBDIVISION.
WE COULD MAKE, WE COULD, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT CAN BRING THAT, UM, BEFORE YOU, BUT THIS IS JUST MEANT FOR NEW LOTS, UM, TO SUBDIVIDE IT AGAIN.
UM, I CAN JUST, I'LL JUST HAVE TO PULL OUT THAT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR AND WOULD JUST, IF WE NEED TO DRAFT IT CLEAR LANGUAGE, THEN WE, WE COULD DO THAT.
SO ONE QUESTION, HEATHER, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IF, IF YOU HAD A, A LOT THAT WAS 90 FEET AND YOU WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE IT, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CORRECT.
IF IT WERE 45, LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, RIGHT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT THE LOT TYPE IS AND WHERE IT IS.
AND I DO KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME, UM, THEY HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON THIS AND SOME OF THEIR CONVERSATION WAS, IS, UM, THEY, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY ALLOWED FLEXIBILITY.
SO THAT MAYBE IF YOU WERE DESIGNING TO SAY AROUND A, A VERY LARGE TREE, THAT YOU COULD SHIFT THAT EVEN IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED FEET, IF ONE HAD TO BE 60 FOOT IN WIDTH, AND ONE WAS 40, THAT YOU'D HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT.
SO THEY HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THAT AND THEIR DISCUSSION WAS AGAIN, BASED ON BUILDING TYPE AND HOW TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. SO THAT WAS JUST THE, UM, THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THEY LOOKED AT IT AS FAR AS BRINGING ANOTHER OPTION TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, WELL, WHAT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL ON
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THIS.I LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION PERSONALLY, LISA, I'M NOT SAYING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S MAKING THEM BIGGER.
I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY TALKING FIVE FEET, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT EXTRA, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAKE, WE COULD DO THE 50, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS.
SO I, I KINDA LIKED THE 45 JUST BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP CHANGING FOR THEM ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH, SO TO SPEAK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO IS THERE A MOVE TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING OF AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, GENERAL STANDARDS RELATED TO HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN AND LOT SIZES I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
FRED, DID YOU GO, OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE DO NOW? IT FAILS.
SO MADAM MAYOR, UH, THE MOTION HAS FAILED ON A VOTE OF THREE TO TWO AGAINST, SO YOU CAN HAVE A, ANOTHER MOTION THIS RAISED, UM, POSSIBLY TO EXCEPT, UM, OR TO APPROVE THE REVISIONS WITH ADDITIONAL CHANGES BY COUNCIL.
IF COUNCIL WANTS TO LEAVE THOSE LOT WITH, SO WE CAN JUST MODIFY THAT MOTION AND TRY AGAIN.
I WILL THROW OUT THE NEW, I CAN THROW IT OUT OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN READ IT.
I'LL JUST, COULD I ASK ONE QUESTION QUICK, LISA, BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION OR SOMEBODY DOES WITH THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WITH THE DIFFERENT, UM, AREAS THAT, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD LISTED THERE, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREET FRONT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WERE DIFFERENT.
THERE WERE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THERE.
SO HOW WOULD, UM, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT ONE MORE QUICK TIME, HEATHER, AND BECAUSE IF WE DEALT WITH 50, THEY, THEY HAD DIFFERENT SIZES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.
HEY, UM, SECTION FIVE, 15, FIVE A START SET, UH, GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDER LOT WITH, BY BUILDING TYPE.
THE MAIN STREET BUILDING 50 FEET.
SO DAN, ONE MORE GO A LITTLE, GO ON ONE MORE DOWN.
WELL, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN RIGHT THERE.
FIVE 15, FIVE DOT A SAYS LOT WIDTH BY BUILDING TIGHT RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY INCREASED IT MAIN STREET BUILDING TO 50, THAT COMMERCIAL COTTAGE, THEY JUMPED IN LAB WORK, LIVE, WORK, SOD YARD.
WELL, I GUESS MY THOUGHT WAS TO KEEP ALL THOSE 50 COMMERCIAL JUMPED 15 FROM 30 TO 45.
COTTAGE JUMPED, 10, EVERYTHING JUMPED 20 JUMPED, 20 JUMPED, 10 JUMPED, FIVE JUMPED 10, AND THEN JUMPED 10 JUMPED, 15 JUMPED, FIVE JUMPED, 10 JUMP.
I JUST SAY THAT'S CONFUSING PERIOD.
SO MY ART WORKSHOP WAS FOR HER TO PUSH THE, FOR EVERYTHING TO BE STANDARD.
AND
MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW WHERE SOMEONE THAT HAVE A SMALLER LOT THAN 50 FOOT, YOU COULD GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THAT THEY DON'T THINK IT'S STILL BUILD ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S HAVE, HAVE BUILD DIFFERENT SIZE STRUCTURE.
SAY ON THE MOTION THAT CURRENT LOTS ALREADY PLANTED UNDER 50 ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.
I DON'T SEE RICHARD SON, BUT I ONLY SEE MY, MY POINT ON THIS,
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UH, MAYOR, IF I MAY, THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AN EXISTING LOT, SO MUCH.THAT'S 45 FEET, BUT A PERSON THAT HAS A LOT THAT'S 90 FEET OR 95 OR 97 OR WHATEVER THAT WANTS TO BUILD TWO PLACES, THEY WOULD BE RESTRICTED FROM SUBDIVIDING THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER A HALF AN ACRE, UH, A LOT OF LAND, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD TWO STRUCTURES BECAUSE OF THE 50 FEET, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY PROVISIONS THAT THAT WOULD COVER THAT SITUATION, BUT I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE RICHARDSON.
YEAH, HE'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOU LOOKING AT HIM, BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS IN FRONT OF ME.
SO IN DEALING WITH THE, IN DEALING WITH NON-CONFORMING, THESE NON-CONFORMING LOT SIZES, THE IT'S TRAP, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING.
I WAS LOOKING OVER HERE LOOKING AT ARTICLE SEVEN OF THE UTO, THAT DEALS WHAT, AND KIND OF ESTABLISHES THE STANDARDS THAT YOU CAN HAVE FOR A NON-CONFORMING LOT.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE BELOW THE, UM, WHAT THIS CHANGE THRESHOLD WILL BE, THEY WILL BE GRANDFATHERED IN BY VIRTUE OF THE STUDIO, BUT WORKING ON FROM THE SUBDIVISION, GOING FROM THAT 95 OR 90 DOWN TO, UH, TRYING TO CREATE TWO LOTS.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'D BE PROHIBITED AS THE, UM, BEST WHERE YOU'RE NONCONFORMING USE.
WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED BECAUSE IT BE ESSENTIALLY AN EXPANSION OF IT, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE PROHIBITED DIRECTLY BY THE UDL.
IS THAT AN END? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA WHAT, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH IT.
AND ALSO THE DEPTH OF THE LOT.
WHAT IF THERE'S A 90 BY 90, BASICALLY THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE STRUCTURE.
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE THAT 90 BY 30, WHICH IS JUST SHY OF A HALF AN ACRE.
NO, NOT, NOT A HALF A QUARTER.
SO I, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT, I'M JUST KIND OF SPIT BALLING HERE, BUT IF YOU'RE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING OUT THERE, PROBABLY HAVE TO GO WITH A, SO INSTEAD OF A SUBDIVISION, CONDOMINIUMIZED IT.
AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY AROUND IT, IF IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE CASE BY CASE BASIS WHERE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THIS NONCONFORMING NON-CONFORMING LOT SIZE ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY EXTENDING TO 50, UM, INCREASING THAT LOT SIZE WHAT THE MINIMUM WOULD BE.
WE'LL HAVE MORE OF THESE PROPERTIES BEING GRANDFATHERED IN THAN KEEPING US A SMALLER LOT SIZE.
SO THAT'S THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT THING.
WELL, AND IT, AND IF WE PASS THE OTHER ONE, IT COULD BE AN 82 FOOT LOT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME THAT MIGHT HAVE ISSUES, BUT, UM, JUST GOT TO DEAL WITH THEM.
AND THEY'RE WAYS THAT PLANNING CAN WORK AROUND, I GUESS.
UM, ANYWAY, SO IS THERE A NEW MOTION THAT, THAT GRANDFATHER'S IN CLINT LOT'S ALREADY 50, 49 FEET OR LESS, AND TO APPROVE THE FIRST READING FOR CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WITH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE, BUT CHANGING MINIMUM LOT SIZES TO 50 FEET ACROSS THE BOARD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RICHARDSON IT'S GRANDFATHERING IN CURRENT LOTS UNDER 50, AND IT'S GOING BACK TO WHAT OUR WORKSHOP RECOMMENDATION WAS.
SO I THINK IT'S ESSENTIALLY ADOPTING THE, UM, ADOPTING THE PROPOSED MINUS THE RECOMMENDATION, THE CHANGE, THE CHANGES FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO IS GRANDFATHERING IN ISLE ALL EXISTING LOTS UNDER 50 FEET AND, UM, CHANGING DOWN OR CHANGING THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH TO 50.
IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? DID THAT MAKE SENSE, HEATHER? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING AYE.
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OPPOSED.THAT'S WE'LL SEE THAT NEXT MONTH ON SECOND READING.
UM, NEXT IS NUMBER THREE CONSIDERATION OF AN APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BELFAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXTS TO AMEND PROPOSED USES TO ADD THE USE ANIMAL HOSPITAL OR CLINIC TO THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE BELFAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN, ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION EIGHT, SUBSECTIONS.
AND KEVIN WE'LL MISS YOU HEATHER FOR A WHILE.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING, UH, FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE BELFAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE IN THE, UM, UM, IN THE ZOOM MEETING IS MR. WALTER NESTER, UH, WITH, UM, FOREMAN AND HE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE, THE APPLICANT, UM, ON THIS.
UH, SO AS WE STATED A MOMENT AGO, UM, THIS IS THE AMENDMENT, SORRY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE.
UM, FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, TO THE PUD DOCUMENT FOR BELFAIR, UH, WHICH HAS ITS OWN SEPARATE PUD AND IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THIS IS SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS, WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING TO, UM, ADD ANIMAL HOSPITAL OR CLINIC, UH, BUT EXCLUDE THE KENNEL KENNEL CATEGORY.
AND IF YOU BEAR WITH ME HERE, I'M GOING TO, UM, GET, SHOW YOU THE TEXT ON IT.
UH, JUST FROM AN AREA MAP, REFERENCE STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE I'VE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED.
THIS IS WHERE THE KROGER IS LOCATED.
I HOP, UM, CHILD DADDY'S, UH, THIS IS THE BELFAIR PUD MASTER PLAN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE AREA IN PINK IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, THAT IS IN THE, IN THE TOWN, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT IS NOT LOCATED IN TOWN THAT IS IN AN UNINCORPORATED BEAVER COUNTY.
UM, SO THE REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, UH, BANFIELD HOSPITAL.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO, UM, TO RENT ONE OF THE SPACES IN THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, HERE ON THE LAYOUT.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, THIS IS AT AN ANGLE FROM IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 14 ISLAND ROAD, UM, ON THE SITE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THE LOCATION, UH, WHERE THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSED TO GO.
HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO ALSO STATE THAT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL, TECHNICALLY IT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN ANY LOCATION, UM, IN ANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UM, DISTRICT.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS IS THE SITE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING THEY'RE PROPOSED TO GO INTO AGAIN.
UM, HERE IS, UH, JUST FROM A STREET VIEW, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED, UH, THE ACTUAL TEXTS THAT, UM, IS GOING TO BE CHANGED.
THIS IS THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, YOU CAN SEE UNDER LAND USES NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, WHAT WOULD BE ADDED HERE UNDER SIX, UH, UNDER OUR SECTION SIX.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK OVER ON THE SECOND SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE'VE IN ESSENCE CROSSED OUT WHAT ANIMAL HOSPITAL CLINIC, UM, UNDER PROHIBITED USES, BUT STILL LEFT THAT KENNEL USE.
SO THE KENNEL USE WOULD STILL BE PROHIBITED, UM, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, UH, THERE ARE VARIOUS REVIEW CRITERIA THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR REPORT.
I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY ONE OF THEM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THE PLANNING, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED AT THEIR MAY 27TH MEETING TO RECOMMEND, UH, TO APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENT AS REQUESTED AND AS SUBMITTED, UH, TONIGHT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE APPLICATION, UH, AGAIN FROM A, UH, PROCESS AND NEXT STEPS.
UH, THIS IS A FIRST READING SINCE IT IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.
SO, UH, THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN, UM, IT'S ANTICIPATE ANTICIPATED AT THE AUGUST 11TH MEETING, UH, WHICH WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND A FINAL READING.
UH, I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION HERE FOR YOU.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM ANY QUESTIONS ON COUNCIL FOR KEVIN RIGHT NOW, I'LL THROW OUT ONE.
KEVIN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP AND JUST SHOW US WHERE ANY UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THAT PARTICULAR POD IS? BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS COULD BE ANY WAY OR NOT JUST, YEAH.
SO, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY CURSOR IS SHOWING UP, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE FAR LEFT, UH, THERE IS A PURPLE, UH, THAT IS A MAINTENANCE FACILITY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE BELFAIR VILLAGE.
SO THAT'S ALREADY AN ACTIVE THERE'S, UH, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THERE.
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UH, THERE IS A SMALL PORTION OF LAND THAT IS LOCATED HERE, UH, THAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMERCIAL, UM, THAT PROPERTY COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.UM, I WOULD ALSO STATE THAT IT IS IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UH, SO IF ANY, UM, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DEVELOP THAT SITE WITH ANY OF THE PERMITTED USES, UH, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, INCLUDING THEN GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
SO MY QUESTION FOR THAT IS IF, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AREA WHERE THEY'RE ASKING IT DOESN'T BOTHER RESIDENTS, BUT IF SOMETHING ON A PERMITTED USE WAS IN THAT SMALL RECTANGLE, AND THERE WAS, UM, OUTCRY FROM RESIDENTS ADDING A USE, IS THERE A WAY TO HANDLE THAT? NOT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE POPULAR BUILDING, BUT YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT STORAGE FACILITIES ARE DOING.
SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE CAN HANDLE THE FUTURE POTENTIAL OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WAS NOT THERE WHEN THESE PEOPLE MOVED IN.
SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION HAS, HAS BEEN A PART OF THAT PUD, UH, SINCE THE INCEPTION.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY, ANYONE COULD POTENTIALLY PURCHASE THAT AND DEVELOP IT, UH, OF ANY OF THE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
USES LISTED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
AND I KNEW THAT I WAS JUST SAYING WE'RE ADDING A USE, CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS NOT DEVELOPED AT THE MOMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THIS JUST FOR THIS PUD? THE USE IS IN JUST THIS PUD, RIGHT? YES.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS ARE WE, I WILL THROW OUT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BELFAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXT TO AMEND PROPOSED USES TO ADD THE USE ANIMAL HOSPITAL, OR I THINK CLINIC TO THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION OF BELFAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN EMOTION THERE, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSIONS LET'S GET THE TYPOS RIGHT FOR THE MINUTES.
MA'AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, STIPE OF SAYING AYE.
ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED THAT UNANIMOUS? OKAY.
UM, WHERE ARE WE? NUMBER FOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A HUNDRED PERCENT ANNEXATION PETITION FOR CERTAIN PROPERTY CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 1.07, SIX ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT FOUR 64 BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, AND IDENTIFIED AS A PORTION OF BUFORD COUNTY TAX MINIMUM NUMBER AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY AS PART OF THE BUCK BALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO SUPPLEMENT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NON 0.18 ACRE ROBERTSON SITE, FIRST READING.
FOR THOSE OF YOU, KEVIN, ARE YOU UP? YES, MA'AM.
UM, SO, UH, FROM AN INTRODUCTION STANDPOINT, UM, AN ACCORDANCE TO SOUTH CAROLINA LAWS, UM, THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PROVIDES THIS ANNEXATION POLICY, WHICH IS THE ANNEXATION MANUAL AGAIN, UH, WALTER NESTER, UM, IS IN THE ZOOM MEETING.
UM, WHO'S ON BEHALF OF IN-MARKET STATIONS, UH, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE GRAND OAKS LLC FOR 100% ANNEXATION OF THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU REFERRED TO.
IT'S ALSO REFERENCED AS FOUR 64 BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.07 ACRES.
UH, I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS ANNEXATION REQUEST, AS IT MOVES FORWARD, THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS THAT WILL COME THROUGH WITH THIS.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST INTEND TO ANNEX.
UM, SO, UH, IT'S COME BEFORE YOU FIRST, UH, AS IT MOVES FORWARD, IF YOU SO CHOOSE, UH, THERE ARE OTHER VARIOUS, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.
SO THERE'S CONCURRENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UH, FOR THE BUCK WALTER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT, THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, AMENDMENT AS PART OF THE BUCK WALTER COMMONS LAND USE TRACK.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUCK, WALTER COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN, UH, TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE POINT, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY.
THE ONE ACRE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE.
UH, REFERENCE POINTS INCLUDED, UH, THE PARKERS GAS STATION ON BUCKWALTER PARKWAY AND CROSS SCHOOLS OVER HERE, UH, FROM THE REVIEW PROCESS, UH, WE'VE,
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UH, FOLLOWED, UH, THE NECESSARY STEPS, INCLUDING THE PRE-APPLICATION CHECK-IN MEETINGS, THE REVIEW BY THE UDL ADMINISTRATOR.AND AGAIN, WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE FIRST READING.
UM, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, UM, IT WILL GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, PUBLIC WORKSHOP, UH, WHICH IS AN INFORMAL MEETING WITH PUBLIC, UM, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FROM THERE, IF NECESSARY, IT CAN POTENTIALLY GO TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE COMMITTEE, UM, AND IF NECESSARY.
AND THEN FROM THERE, GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN BACK IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A SECOND AND FINAL, UH, AND AT THAT POINT IT WOULD INCLUDE THE OTHER VARIOUS, UM, UM, APPLICATIONS, KEVIN, HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR DATES.
I THINK YOU HAVE A WRONG DATE ON THERE TWO 19, DID THEY START INTO 19? AND NOW WE JUMPED TO 20, OR WHAT GO THROUGH THAT? YOU HAVE JANUARY 31ST, 2019.
IS THAT WHEN THIS FIRST PART IS MA'AM I APOLOGIZE THAT, UM, THE, THE TYPO IS IN THE, UH, THE FIRST READING AND THE WORKSHOP.
UM, WE, WE DID START, UM, WELL ACTUALLY, I, I GOT A TYPO IN ALL OF THOSE.
SO, UH, JUST, JUST OVERLOOK THAT, THAT THE, THE DAYS ARE RIGHT.
JUST THE, UH, WE GET OFF BY A YEAR.
AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UPDATED ON THE, UM, ON THE NEXT ONE.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY THE 1.07 ACRES.
UH, IT IS VACANT IN, UH, UNINCORPORATED BEAVER COUNTY.
UH, CURRENTLY IT'S UNDER THE GRAND OAKS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS THE DESIGNATION OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL C2 LAND USE TRACK, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE LIMITED USES, INCLUDING ATTACHED DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY RECREATION AND SALES CENTER.
SO WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO UTILIZE THE, UM, THE EXISTING ROBINSON TRACK.
AND I'LL HAVE A MAP HERE KIND OF SHOWING, UH, WHERE THE ROBINSON TRACK IS LOCATED, UH, AND THE NECESSARY, UH, ADDITION OF THIS ONE ACRE, UH, TO HAVE A GAS STATION CONSISTING OF A 5,900 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE, FUEL FACILITIES FOR 20 VEHICLES, UH, I, UH, 1200 SQUARE FOOT CARWASH, WHICH ARE ALL LISTED AS CONDITIONAL USES.
AND AGAIN, UM, THE REASONING FOR THIS IS THE, THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN AN ACCESS POINT, UM, TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE BUCK, WALTER PARKWAY VIA LAKE POINT.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE ON WHAT IS THE ZONING MAP WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THE GREEN IS THE BUCK WALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT'S IN GRAY UNDER SANDY POINT HERE, LINK POINT DRIVE IS THE, THIS IS JUST THE CO EXISTING COPY OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE GRAND OAKS, UH, HIGHLIGHTING THAT C2 DESIGNATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CORNER HIGHLIGHTED AS RED, UM, PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PAGES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAND USES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE CURRENTLY, UM, YOU HAVE THE GRANDDOGS, UH, UH, COMMUNITY, RESIDENTIAL C2, UH, WHEREVER YOU SEE A DASH IS CONSIDERED A NOT ALLOWED, UM, WHEREVER YOU SEE A P IT IS CONSIDERED PERMITTED BY, RIGHT.
AND A C MEANS THAT IT'S CONDITIONAL, THERE'S VARIOUS CONDITIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UM, SO FROM AGRICULTURAL, UH, CIVIC INSTITUTION, COMMERCIAL RETAIL, AGAIN CURRENTLY ARE NOT ALLOWED.
UM, IF AS PROPOSED WOULD POTENTIALLY BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITH VARIOUS ITEMS IN HERE THAT ARE LISTED AS CONDITIONAL, AGAIN, A LIST OF VARIOUS COMMERCIAL, UH, RETAIL USES, UM, ANYTHING FROM, UM, ANIMAL HOSPITAL, A GAS STATION, CARWASH BANKS, CLOTHING STORE, RESTAURANTS, OFFICE BUILDINGS, SCHOOLS, UH, LOGIC.
AND THEN ONCE YOU GET DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY REC, UH, RECREATION, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SOME OF THESE USES ARE NOW CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS IN ACCOUNTING AND WHAT WOULD BE PROPOSED.
UH, THESE WOULD BE, UH, ANYTHING FROM PARKS, UH, COMMUNITY RECREATION POOLS, OPEN SPACE, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES AND, UH, VARIOUS UTILITIES.
IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC USE, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO LOOK FOR IT AND WE CAN GO FOR IT FROM THERE.
BUT I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT JUST THE, THE, THE LARGER USES.
UH, SO THIS IS PART OF, UH, IT'S IN THE EXISTING, UH, ANNEXATION BOUNDARY MAP, UM, THAT WE HAVE, IT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU CAN SEE THE RED DOTTED LINE THAT REPRESENTS OUR FUTURE ANNEXATION, UH, AND THIS IS, UH, PROPOSED ALREADY IN THAT LOCATION.
SO WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE THE, UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, COULD IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY AS A MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL.
UH, IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE FUTURE
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USE OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AROUND IT.FROM THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP.
YOU CAN SEE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE INSET HERE, UH, KIND OF A STAR AS TO THE LOCATION WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS, WHICH SHOWS THAT IT IS IN THAT TOWN CENTER, UH, ASSEMBLY.
UH, THERE ARE, UH, I BELIEVE 14 VARIOUS REVIEW CRITERIA, UH, THAT ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY SPECIFIC ONE OF THEM.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AGAIN.
UH, I THINK I PICKED UP MY DATES HERE.
UM, I GOT THEM CORRECTED ON THIS ONE.
UH, SO WE ARE HERE AT JUNE, UH, CME, JULY 14TH, 2020 FOR THE FIRST READING, WOULD THAT INTENT TO ANNEX AND THEN IN THE FUTURE WOULD GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP AGAIN, NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING, AND RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL, SECOND HEARING.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, UH, ABOUT THIS, ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL ON THIS, THE ANNEXATION PROCESS, IS THERE ANY POSTING SIGNAGE REQUIRED? YES, SIR.
THERE WILL, THERE, THERE IS REQUIREMENTS.
UM, WE REQUIRED THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THE POSTINGS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY WILL BE SENT OUT FOR THE SECOND READING.
SO FOR THE FIRST READING, IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT IT IS FOR THE SECOND WEEK.
SO THERE'LL BE A SPINE ON THE PROPERTY INDICATING THE PURPOSE.
THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE WILL BE, UM, THERE WILL BE NOTIFICATIONS THAT GO OUT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET.
ARE YOU ASKING US, ARE WE INTERESTED IN, THIS? IS THAT I NOTICED WE HAVE FIRST READING, BUT THEN USUALLY WE JUST, BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE SAY, YES, WE HAVE AN APPETITE OR NO.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR VOTE TONIGHT WILL TELL YOU? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE SOMEBODY A FALSE SENSE OF HOPE IF WE ALL REALIZE SECOND READING, THIS ISN'T GOOD.
MA'AM AGAIN, THAT'S THE, THE INTENT PURPOSE OF IT.
UM, SO, UH, YOU HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO NOT, EXCUSE ME, TO DENY, UH, THAT FIRST READING, UM, IF, IF IT IS DENIED, THEN ALL OF THE OTHER VARIOUS APPLICATIONS, UM, IT WOULD BE A MOOT POINT AND THEN THEY WOULD NOT MOVE.
JUST, I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON, UM, HOW WE DO THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS BRIDGET, WHERE YOU AT? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THOUGHT TWO PEOPLE SPOKE OF AT ONCE.
SO IS THERE ANY QUESTION FROM ANYONE? NO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO MY QUESTION, I GUESS, AND MAYBE OTHERS WILL HAVE THIS PORTION TO THE SOUTH OF THIS WAS ANNEXED BY THE SAME GROUP SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THE, ON THE GRAPH, THE, UNDER THE BUCK, WALTER PUD, THAT LAND HAS ALL OF THESE PERMITTED USES CURRENTLY, I GUESS IN THAT.
IT DOES HAVE THE BUCK, WALTER COMMONS LAND USE DESIGNATION.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL WASN'T ANNEX, BUT THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.
ARE WE, ARE WE UP SIGNING THIS FROM THE COUNTY STANDARDS? YES.
HAS THE COUNTY CHIMED IN ON THIS? UH, NOT, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A LETTER JUST STATING THE, THE, UH, ZONING DESIGNATION OF IT.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, ANY SUPPORT OR NO SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY.
I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THEM IF YOU'D LIKE, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO PLAN ON AS FAR AS WE'VE COME ALONG WITH COUNTY COUNCIL ON RESPECT, I SURE AM GOING TO CALL MY BETWEEN KIRSTEN SECOND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE UPS OWNING SOMETHING WHEN WE'VE COME SO FAR WITH THE COUNTY AND RESPECT THAT THEY IN TURN ARE, ARE DOING THE SAME.
SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ON IT.
BUT I'LL HEAR FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL.
UH, SPEAKING, I'LL TELL YOU IF EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? CAN Y'ALL HEAR WALTER HE'S THE ATTORNEY, I GUESS FOR THE APPLICANT, CAN Y'ALL HEAR WALTER SOUNDS REALLY LOW.
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PULL UP YOUR VOLUME, PERHAPS GOT TO TRY IT AGAIN.AND JUST VERY QUICKLY, MADAM MAYOR, I JUST TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND TOLD THEM ABOUT OUR INTENT.
UM, THE ROBERTSON TRACK WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ADDITIONS TO BUCK WALTER COMMONS, UH, AND IS AS, UM, MR. E-CARD NOTED.
IT IS, UM, IT PART OF BUCK WALTER COMES AND HAS ALL THOSE USES THE ONE FOR THE AREA THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED IS BOUNDED, UH, TO THE NORTH BY LAKE POINT DRIVE BY THE SOUTH TO THE ROBERTSON TRACK BOUNDED BY THE, UH, EAST, BY THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BOUNDED TO THE WEST OR SOUTHWEST BY PONDS, VERY LARGE STORMWATER FACILITIES.
SO THIS PARCEL, THIS 1.07 ACRE PARCEL.
IT'S A VERY SMALL PARCEL AND ITS UTILITY IS VIRTUALLY NOMINAL WITHOUT, UM, WITHOUT THE ADDITION TO THE ROBERTSON TRACK.
AND SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE BOTH WITH THE ROBERTSON TREK AND THE PORTION, UH, PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN.
WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT WALTER.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. NESTER OF KEVIN IS OKAY.
I WILL TELL YOU PERSONALLY, I DON'T LIKE UPS OWNING.
I THINK IF WE'VE DONE REALLY WELL, I KNOW WE WILL HEAR FROM EVERYONE AROUND THERE, EVERYONE, AND WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THINGS LIKE THIS, GO TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND TALK TO THEM, YOU KNOW? AND WHEN YOU SEE THAT SIGN UP, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM AND IT MAY CHANGE SOME MINDS.
SO AS LONG AS WHATEVER THIS VOTE GOES, IF IT MAY BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN A MONTH, BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS, I JUST, I JUST, I THINK I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A STIR THAT THE SIGN'S NOT EVEN UP YET.
IT, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS IS GOING ON.
SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I LIKE TO GIVE MY COMMENTS.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ZONING WITHOUT, UM, THE NEIGHBORS BEING CONTACTED AND HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO WHERE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THEY, IF THEY NEEDED TO.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT MIGHT BE A HIDDEN QUESTION IF THAT WAS EVER DONE.
MARK, PROBABLY HISTORICALLY WE KNOW WE'VE CHANGED THESE ANNEXATION REQUESTS SO MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, A HEADS UP OR DOWN.
ARE WE INTERESTED TO GETTING IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD, BUT MARK, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT OR HEATHER OR KEVIN, LET HEATHER LEAD THAT AND IF SHE'S MISSING ANYTHING, I'LL FILL IN THE GAPS EITHER.
RIGHT? SO AT THIS POINT, THIS IS, UM, WITH THAT ANNEX STATION MANUAL, THE VERY FIRST STEP.
SO WE HAVE NOT GONE TO THAT EXTENSIVE PUBLIC NOTICE OR, UM, FURTHER AT BEST POINT.
HOWEVER, IF THE VOTE IS THAT THE INTENT TO ANNEX IS A FAVORABLE MOTION TO APPROVE, THEN WE WILL MOVE THROUGH THOSE STEPS.
UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE SO OTHER THAN SEND THOSE INITIAL LETTERS LIKE KEVIN, I HEARD EXPLAIN.
AND WALTER, UH NON-STERILE SO, UH, TOUCHED ON, BUT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY, UM, AN EXTENSIVE PART OF THE PROCESS.
SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR CONCERN? DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT? I MEAN, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE IT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HEATHER SAID.
UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE I FOLLOW IT STILL.
DOESN'T IT STILL DOESN'T SAY THAT WE, UM, WE TALKED TO THE COUNTY OURSELVES, OR WE TALKED TO ASHLEY JACOBS WITH THE COUNTY, OR WE TALKED TO, UM, THE NEIGHBORS AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE COUNTY OURSELVES OR THE NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY THAT JUST SIMPLY STATES WHAT THE USES ARE, UM, AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
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HAVE NOT, AS THE TOWN REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS OR THE COUNTY AND, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S MARK SPEAKING, MARISOL.UM, THE VERY FIRST FOLKS THAT WE TALKED TO REGARDING AN ANNEXATION OTHER THAN THE PETITIONER IS, IS U S TOWN COUNCIL.
SO BEFORE WE SPEND ANY TIME CALLING THE NEIGHBORS, CALLING YOU FOR COUNTY OR HAVING ANY COORDINATION, THE ANNEXATION POLICY AND PROCEDURE MANUAL DRIVES OF THE VERY FIRST STEP, OTHER THAN THE INTAKE OF THE PERMIT, OR I SHOULD SAY THE PETITION IS TO ASK COUNSEL, IF YOU HAVE AN APPETITE, IF YOU HAVE AN APPETITE FOR THE ANNEXATION, AND IF YOU HAVE AN APPETITE FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING, YOU COULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE AN APPETITE FOR THE ANNEXATION, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE, AS YOU'VE SAID MANY TIMES IN THE PAST FOR THE, FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING, RIGHT? THIS IS GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
IT'S AT A CORNER OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, WHERE CURRENT SIGNAL EXISTS, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM ANOTHER GAS STATION, BUT IT'S ALSO LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP IN THIS AREA SHOWS THAT THIS IS A DENSE INTERSECTION THAT OVER TIME, THIS INTERSECTION IS MORE DENSE, UM, ON THE INTERSECTION THAN IT IS DENSE AT THE EDGE OF, OF TOWN.
UM, AND SO WE, IN THE PAST, HAVEN'T REALLY MADE ANY MOVES ON ANNEXATIONS WITH, WITHOUT ASKING YOU, IF YOU HAVE THE APPETITE FOR, FOR BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT SECOND AND FINAL READING IS GUARANTEED.
IF YOU'D PASS FIRST READING, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A SIMPLE LOOK.
THIS IS AN ANNEXATION OF A PIECE THAT'S RESIDENTIAL.
IT WAS PROBABLY PLANNED FOR A SALES CENTER AT A CORONER YEARS AGO PRIOR TO THE SIGNAL PLANNING, UM, AS THAT CAME LATER.
AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT A GAS STATION ACROSS FROM ANOTHER GAS STATION TO SERVE THE NEED OF TRAFFIC ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, UM, DRIVING, DRIVING SOUTH, AS WELL AS THOSE RESIDENTS COMING IN AND OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY DAY AND NIGHT.
SO, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE US, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TABLE THE APPLICATION, COME BACK FOR FIRST READING, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO PASS FIRST READING, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COME BACK TO YOU AFTER WE TALKED TO BUFORD COUNTY AND THE RESIDENCE AND LESSON UNTIL AFTER SECOND AND FINAL READING OF WHICH STAFF WOULD HAVE WORKED COUNTLESS HOURS IN THE APPLICANT AND THEIR TEAM WOULD HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS AND DOLLARS ON IT, TRYING TO DETERMINE ZONING, UM, ONLY TO WONDER IF YOU HAVE AN APPETITE FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING BACK TO WHY WE PUT THOSE ANNEXATION PROCEDURES IN PLACE WAS SIMPLY TO GET YOUR INTAKE, OR I'D SAY INPUT ON, ON THE ZONING AND ANNEXATION IT'S WITHIN OUR GROWTH BOUNDARY.
UM, BUT A GAS STATION ON A CORNER, UM, THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN PLANNED FOR A GAS STATION ON A CORNER.
UH, WE'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD OR NOT MAYOR.
UM, ARE WE LEGALLY BOUND WHEN YOU DO A FIRST THREE READING, HAVE THE SECOND READING THE FOLLOWING 30 DAYS OR SO LATER? NO, SIR.
LIKE THIS, NO, THERE'S THERE'S MANY STEPS AND I'M SURE HEATHER HAS THEM WONDERFULLY OUTLINED IN THEIR PRESENTATION OR HER REPORT.
I THINK RICHARDSON WAS GOING TO ANSWER ME.
RICHARDSON COUNCILMAN WOULD YET.
YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE IT WITHIN 30 DAYS.
THE REASON, THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION IS THAT THE CONCERN THAT WE ALL HAVE IS TYPICALLY WE FEEL LIKE WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE THE WORKSHOP.
WE WOULD BE GIVEN A COST ANALYSIS AND WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD KNOW ALL THESE THINGS AND THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE POSTED.
SO I PERSONALLY, UH, I HAVE THE APPETITE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GAS STATION THERE, BUT ONLY WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THE COUNTY AND EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION, IF WE DID DO FIRST READING AND WE HAVE TIME FOR STAFF AND EVERYBODY TO BRING THE REST OF THIS INFORMATION TO US AND THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND PROPERLY.
AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING, DAN, AT THE BEGINNING, IT, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS.
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I DON'T KNOW IF MY APPETITE IS TO ANNEX SOMETHING WHERE THE NEXT STEP IS TO UPSELL ON IT.I JUST, I, I JUST LOOK FORWARD THE ROAD FROM OLD MILLER ROAD HAS NOT BEEN PAID THROUGH GRANDIOSE HOPES.
IT'S SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, I JUST SEE MORE, MORE STRAIN ON THE TOWN TO HAVE TO DO MORE THINGS FOR CONGESTION PURPOSES.
WITH THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS THAT NEW HOME COMMUNITY GOING ON.
I WILL VOTE TO GET IT TO THE NEXT STEP, BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE ZONING AT THIS MOMENT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY, I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT GOES BACK TO THAT APPLICANT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE NEXT STEP TO A YES.
CAUSE IT MIGHT BE, BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
THAT WAS THE REASON I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
I MEAN, I WOULDN'T WHAT TYPE OF, UH, SO, SO THE WAY IT'S SET UP IN OUR MANUAL AND WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT, BUT TONIGHT'S MANUAL IS TO FOCUS ON FIRST READING.
IS THERE AN APPETITE WE DO NOT HAVE TO COME BACK AND THAT KEVIN MOVED REAL QUICKLY PAST THE CALENDAR DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AUGUST.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE IT GOING TO PLANNING.
YOU HAVE KIND OF A SPEEDY, LET'S SEE, WHEN DOES IT COME BACK? IT COMES BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL NOVEMBER.
SO IT GIVES THAT AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, FOUR MONTHS IN BETWEEN BASED ON THIS SCHEDULE, BUT IS THERE A, IS THERE AN APPETITE TO MOVE UP FRUSTRATING THE WAY THIS IS SET UP? NOT FOR ME.
THE, THE CONCERNS THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, MARRIAGE SIMILAR TO MINE IN THE SENSE OF NOT HAVING, UM, NOT NECESSARILY A FULL CONSENSUS, BUT NOT AT LEAST HEARING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO ELSE IS INVOLVED WITH THIS AND KNOWING LIKE WHAT STRAINS OR WHAT, UM, ADDITIONAL COMPLICATIONS IN MY, OR BURDEN IN MY PUT ON, ON, UM, ON THE TOWN.
SO WE ARE ASKED TO VOTE ON FIRST READING, UM, TO GO TO THE NEXT STEPS, TO FIND THAT OUT ARE KNOWING, I MEAN, MARK OR HEATHER CHIME IN THIS IS OUR ANNEXATION MANUAL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE FOLLOWING OUR MANUALS INSTRUCTIONS, AND THIS IS THE WAY IT IS.
SO TONIGHT WE CAN VOTE ON FIRST READING AND CLEARLY STATE WHAT OUR CONDITIONS ARE.
AND THAT IS THAT THERE MAY BE ISSUES WITH THE COUNTY.
THERE MAY BE ISSUES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'D SAY I HEAR TWO OTHERS AND ME.
SO, I MEAN, AND I HEARD DAN, I THINK IT JUST CAN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A SHOE IN TO GO TO SECOND READING AND PASS I'D ADD, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO SPEND THAT MUCH TIME ON IT, KNOWING THAT, UM, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
AND AGAIN, LIKE WE APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN ENGAGE WITH TOWN STAFF SO WE CAN DO OUR MAILINGS AND OUR POSTINGS ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY COMMITMENT FROM COUNCIL TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
SO WE CAN, AGAIN, ENGAGE WITH STAFF, ENGAGE, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.
UM, UNTIL WE DO THAT, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT, BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE IN THIS FOUR OR FIVE MONTH PROCESS BEFORE THE APPLICATION IS BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
IT GOES BEFORE IT GOES BACK TO STAFF, IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
MAYBE IT GOES TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.
THERE THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS THAT COME UP NEXT THAT WE BELIEVE WILL GIVE COUNSEL ALL THE INFORMATION.
IT NEEDS TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION AT THE END OF THE PROCESS AT THEIR SECOND READING.
SO THERE ARE OTHER HEARINGS, OTHER INFORMATION THAT GETS PROPOSED THAT GETS PUSHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY CAN ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
THEY CAN GET INFORMATION, BUT IN THE END FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS FROM NOW, TOWN COUNCIL WILL HAVE ALL THE REQUISITE INFORMATION THAT IT NEEDS TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ASKING TOWN COUNCIL TO ALLOW US TO START THE PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY PROMISES WHATSOEVER, AND WE UNDERSTAND AND HAVE
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HEARD LOUDLY THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT LET US GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AS IT'S SET FORTH IN THE MANUAL TO GET THAT INFORMATION, TO PROVIDE THE REQUISITE NOTICES TO EVERYBODY.SO THE CITIZENS DO KNOW AND CAN BE HEARD AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY BELIEVE THE TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD DO.
UM, BUT IF THERE IS AN APPETITE TO MOVE FORWARD, LISTENING TO MR. NESTER AND THE WAY OUR TOWN HAS SET UP THIS MANUAL, UM, I THINK THAT'S ONE VOTE.
IF THERE'S JUST NO APPETITE WITHOUT LEARNING ALL OF THAT, WE'LL NEVER LEARN IT IF WE VOTE.
NO, AND I'M REALLY ON THE FENCE ON THIS.
SO I'LL LISTEN TO Y'ALL MAYOR.
CAN WE REVIEW THE, UH, THE, UM, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? WELL, WE WOULD BE APPROVING.
CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE MOTION OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE END, CORRECT? YES, BUT NO, KEVIN, THANK YOU.
SO THEY'RE BASICALLY WANTING TO ANNEX THE LAND IN ON FIRST READING.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ZONING, YOU JUST GAVE THAT TO US FOR, RIGHT? YES.
MA'AM, THERE'S NO ZONING IX PERCEPTION OF ANYBODY.
IF WE ARE JUST CONSIDERING PULLING IN THE LAND, IT IS THE, IN THE INTENT TO ZONE.
AND AS MR. NESTOR HAD STATED, UM, AND IT'S PROVIDING THE STAFF REPORT, THE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, UH, THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT STAFF WOULD THEN START WORKING ON, UH, ONCE YOU DECIDE AND ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS.
I MEAN, COULDN'T, WE ADD LANGUAGE IN THERE TO THE EFFECT, SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR HIM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE TO GO TO FIRST READING, IF IT PASSED THIS FOR INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ONLY, OR I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO ACCUMULATE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WELL AGAIN, MR. COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD, I MEAN IT, WELL, WALTER, IF, UM, RICHARDSON COULD ANSWER HIS QUESTION REAL QUICK AND THEN I'LL LET YOU SAY SOMETHING, COUNCILMAN, WOULD I BE, I'D BE HESITANT TO RECOMMEND ALLOWING, UM, OR TO TRY TO CONDITION THE APPROVAL OF ANY ANNEXATION ON ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? UM, IT, IT COULD CREATE LEGAL COMPLICATIONS DOWN THE ROAD, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.
NOTHING THAT YOU DO ON FIRST READING IS GOING TO BIND YOU TO COMMIT TO SECOND READING.
UM, ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN VOTE IN FAVOR OF FIRST RATING AND ALL FIVE CAN VOTE AGAINST SECOND READING.
UM, SO I, I WOULD CAUTION YOU AGAINST EXPLICITLY MAKING IT A CONDITION AS PART OF YOUR MOTION.
UH, WALTER, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND? WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA, UH, UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT RICHARDSON SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS THE STATUTORY PROCESS.
THE FIRST ONE IS JUST AN INTENT TO ANNEX STARTING THE PROCESS.
THEN THE DISCUSSIONS TAKE PLACE AND RICHARDSON SAID AT BEST, IT COULD BE UNANIMOUS TO, TO APPROVE INTENT AND THEN TO ANNEX.
AND THEN AT SECOND READING, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED AND WE HAVE TO THERE'S PLANNING COMMISSION AND, AND, AND OTHERS MEETINGS AND HEARINGS THAT TAKE PLACE BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME OF SECOND READING.
ANYONE ELSE, MAYOR? I I'M JUST SITTING HERE.
I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT AT ALL OTHER THAN JUST TRYING TO MAKE SENSE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS IF, IF IT'S THE MAJORITY FROM JUST LISTENING TO YOU GUYS ARE NOT TOO EXCITED ABOUT IT, UM, OR DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT FOUR MONTHS OF WORK ON OUR STAFF? I MEAN, IF, IF WE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE 90% POSSIBILITY OF BEING KNOCKED OUT, SHOULD WHAT SHOULD WE DO? SHOULD WE APPROVE IT? OR SHOULD WE SAY NO, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING MY OPINION.
I'M JUST SEARCHING FOR THE LOGICAL THING.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU AND THE REST OF COUNCIL ARE PRETTY MUCH, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN UP ZONING.
SO IF WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN UP ZONING, THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD BURDEN WITH TOWN, BURTON, TOWN, STAFF, AND LEGAL TO MOVE FORWARD.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.
WELL SAID THAT'S THE ONLY MOTION ON THE TABLE.
THEY'RE NOT, COULD ALSO BE A MOTION TO
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TABLE CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, WE COULD TABLE IT.IT'S DONE, BUT THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD VOTED ON TO, TO UH, ABIDE BY WITH ANNEXATION.
SO THE NEXT CONVERSATION AFTER THIS, MAYBE OUR PROCESS IS WRONG, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE CHANGED IT A HUNDRED TIMES.
THERE'S REALLY NO RIGHT WAY TO CONSIDER ANNEXATIONS WITHOUT PUBLICLY PRESENTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY WAY HAS EVER WORKED.
SO THIS IS SHOWING OUR APPETITE.
THIS IS GETTING VERY LITTLE INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC AND I'M NOT INTERESTED IN OWNING.
SO I MEAN, IF THEY WANT TO ANNEX THE LAND AND KNOW THAT THE ZONING IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIRS, THEN YOU GOT ME PERSONALLY.
I MIGHT GET OFF THE FENCE THE OTHER WAY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT STAFF WORKING AT IT.
IF I'M HALFWAY ON THIS PERSONALLY, JUST ONE OF THE VOTES.
SO, UM, CAN WE TABLE THIS TOTALLY.
UM, AND THEN DO A LITTLE DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND, AND FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S FEELINGS, MAYOR, I MEAN, OR RICHARDSON, YOU CAN MOVE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
IT IS GOING TO BE A AS MADAM MAYOR AND UH, MR. NESTER POINTED OUT, IT'S A SLIGHT DEVIATION FROM THE MANUAL.
UM, THIS IS THIS TYPE OF DUE DILIGENCE.
IT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE CONDUCTED AFTER FIRST READING, BUT IF Y'ALL DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD ON FIRST READING UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN HAND, YOU CERTAINLY ARE WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO GO AHEAD AND TAPE.
AND I WOULD URGE ALL OF US AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE, THAT WE DON'T GET THIS TOO FAR AHEAD TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO COUNSEL AND THAT'S, THAT'S HARD, BUT WE ALSO GET IT AS EARLY AS WE CAN.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO CALL COUNTY FROM THURSDAY UNTIL TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT, LARRY, UM, UH, WORD THAT, JUST SAY YOU'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER, UH, 10, UM, UNDER FORMAL ITEMS, NUMBER FOUR.
IS THERE A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN AUGUST.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED NONE OR A POST.
WE'LL GET THIS ON AUGUST AGENDA.
UM, NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR PROPERTY REFERRED TO A CYPRESS RIDGE WITHIN JONES ESTATE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO AMEND THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK BY ADDING ROADS AND SERVICE LANES TO THE COMMERCIAL VILLAGE AREA LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ONE 70 AND MILL CREEK BOULEVARD AND KEVIN.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING.
THIS IS FOR A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE CYPRESS RIDGE, UM, MASTER PLAN.
UH, AS YOU REMEMBER, THIS CAME BEFORE YOU, I BELIEVE IT WAS BACK IN JANUARY.
UH, YOU HAD SOME SPECIFIC REQUESTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHICH I'LL GET TO THOSE HERE IN A SECOND.
AGAIN, JUST AS A RECAP, UM, ON THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN SPECIFICALLY, UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MOVE 44 OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS OFF FROM, UM, UH, OAK BARREL, UH, BOULEVARD OVER TO BLAKEHURST BOULEVARD, UH, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, HERE IN THE EXISTING IT'S THE ORANGE AREA, UH, HAS SINCE BEEN MOVED OVER TO, UM, LAKERS BOULEVARD HERE, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UH, RECENT DISCOVERY OF THREE OF THE GRAPES, UM, THAT ARE, UM, WERE UNKNOWN PREVIOUSLY.
UH, THEY'VE SINCE UPDATED THE MASTER PLAN TO REFLECT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, CEMETERY THAT'S LOCATED HERE THAT WAS KNOWN ABOUT, AND THEN THERE WAS AN, UM, NEWLY FOUND GRAVES THAT ARE LOCATED HERE.
UH, THEY'VE REMOVED THAT, UH, COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION FROM THAT AREA, WHICH WILL THEN, UH, BE, UM, JUST A, AN OPEN SPACE AREA.
UH, JUST QUICK FOR AN AERIAL MAP STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE, UH, MILL CREEK, UH, FOUR SEASONS, UH, IS THE CYPRESS RIDGE, UH, MASTER PLAN.
UH, AGAIN, THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN THAT'S ON FILE THE NEW MASTER PLAN, UH, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED SHOWING, UH, THE, UM, THE CHANGES.
UM, AND THEN DURING, UM, THAT MEETING TOWN COUNCIL, YOU PROPOSE, UH, MULTIPLE QUESTIONS TO
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STAFF, UH, REGARDS TO THE FORMAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE DISCOVERED GRAPES, UM, IDENTIFYING ANY OF THE SIGNIFICANT TREES IN THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE NEWLY RESIDENTIAL AREA AND LABELING THESE TRAYS TREES THAT COULD BE SAVED DURING CONSTRUCTION.UH, SO STAFF WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE GRAPES LABELED, UM, AND THERE'LL BE LABELED ON A PLANT THAT WILL BE RECORDED FOR THE REGISTER OF DEEDS.
UM, THEY'VE ALSO CONVERTED, UM, SOME OF THE TOWNHOME UNITS FROM THE FOUR UNITS TO SIX UNIT BUILDINGS, UH, WHICH THEY'RE ABLE TO PRESERVE APPROXIMATELY 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE AND APPROXIMATELY 58 TREES ON THAT SITE.
UM, AND THEN I'LL ALSO, UM, THE RECENT MIDDLE DOCUMENTS DO INCLUDE THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.
UH, AGAIN FROM THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2019, UH, JUST TO SAY THAT THESE WERE THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAD, WHICH HAVE SINCE BEEN COMPLETED AND ACKNOWLEDGED.
UH, SO FOR THE PROPOSED LAYOUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE HERE, UH, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE BUILDING CONFIGURATION NO LONGER A BUILDING LOCATED OFF OF MILL CREEK BOULEVARD.
UH, THERE'S THIS ENTIRE, APPROXIMATELY 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF AREA OF, UM, EXISTING TREES, UH, THAT WILL BE SAVED AND UNTOUCHED.
UM, AND THIS ACTUALLY HELPS TO PROVIDE A BUFFER, UH, FOR THE REAR OF THESE HOMES AS INDIVIDUALS ARE DRIVING THROUGH, INTO, IN ENTERING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THERE ARE ALSO OTHER VARIOUS TREES ON THE SITE THAT THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO SAVE.
UM, SO FOR THE TREE SAVE, UM, THEY DID SOME COMPARISONS JUST SO YOU CAN SEE FOR VIEW ONE, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE TREES THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
UH, THIS IS THE AREA OF THE, UM, THE OPEN SPACE THAT WILL NOT BE TOUCHED.
SO, UH, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE ANY OF THE HOMES THROUGH HERE.
UH, THIS IS FOR REVIEW THREE, UH, ONE OF THE TREES THAT WILL BE REMOVED, UH, THERE'S A FEW TREES ON THE SIDE, UM, UH, HERE, UH, ONE OF THE TREES, WHICH IS ALIVE OAK, UM, WHILE IT'S SHOWN AS A LARGE LIVE OAK, THERE'S VARIOUS DEAD LIMBS ON IT, UH, WHICH MAKE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE THINGS WERE REMOVED, THAT IT JUST WOULD NOT BE A FEASIBLE TREE TO SAVE.
AGAIN, THIS IS VIEW FIVE, UM, VIEW SIX.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SOME EXISTING TREES, UH, THAT WILL HELP TO CREATE A BUFFER FOR SOME OF THESE HOMES, UH, ALONG WITH THESE EXISTING, UM, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, VIEW SEVEN, UH, ALL THE REVIEW CRITERIA ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY ONE OF THEM.
UM, IF YOU, SO CHOOSE FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, AGAIN, WE'RE HERE FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT MASTER PLAN.
UH, YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, AND AGAIN, AS THE, THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HAVE BEEN, UM, UPDATED ON THE PLANS.
UH, THEREFORE THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
UM, AS PART OF THAT SUBMITTAL MAYOR, I NEED TO, I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE GRAVE SITE AND KEVIN CAN, YOU CAN GIVE ME MORE, UM, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? HOW THEY PROTECTING THE GRAVE SITE AND THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, INCHES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO THE BEDSIDE WITHOUT ANY HOUSES.
AND, UM, AND I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT THE APPLICANT MIKE HUGHES, UM, IS ALSO IN THE ZOOM MEETING, UH, SO HE CAN, HE CAN CHIME IN AS WELL.
UH, THERE ARE, UM, THERE ARE, UM, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO, UM, THERE ARE TWO PARKING SPACES LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UM, UH, THE ENTRANCE, THE WELCOMING CENTER, UH, THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARK THERE, WALK UP, UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING FENCE AROUND THAT.
UH, THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING IN.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THEY WILL PUT A SMALL SIGN UP THERE.
UM, IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, SINCE THE LAST MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, ONE OF THE RELATIVES OF ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT IS BURIED THERE WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY FIND HIM, UM, AND, AND WAS ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY FIND OUT WHERE HE WAS LOCATED.
YOU SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, ACCESS THROUGH THE WELCOME CENTER AND WHAT PROXIMITY IS THAT TO THE GRAVE SITE? UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, A 75 FOOT WALK.
SO YOU WOULD JUST BE WALKING 75 FEET OVER TO WHERE THE, THE, THE, UM, GRAVES WOULD BE LOCATED.
AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU SAY? WAS IT TWO, OKAY.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
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NO OTHERS FRED, OR IS THAT THIS WAS A MEETING I MISSED AND I LISTENED TO PART OF IT, BUT IS THIS ANSWER ALL YOUR CONCERNS ON THIS? I WISH I WISH THERE WAS A BIT OF VISUAL, BUT, UM, I DO SEE WHERE THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS TO GET TO VISIT THE SITE.AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT, BUT I WISH THERE WAS A BETTER VISUAL.
YOU WANT A BETTER VISUAL? YES.
I THINK, I THINK, UH, THE DEVELOPER KNEW THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT WE WOULD, WHAT WE HAVE IS JUST, UM, IS, UM, IS NOT, UH, IT'S NOT, UH, A GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT THE LOOK AND FEEL LIKE.
HI, IF I MAY, I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT MIKE HUGHES IS ON THE LINE.
HE MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A CLEAR PICTURE AS TO WHAT, UM, WHAT IS, UM, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS MIKE HUGHES WITH THOMPSON.
AND FOR THIS EVENING, I'M ACTUALLY HERE ON BEHALF OF DEER HORTON.
AND SO DEER HORTON IS THE CONTROLLING, UH, OWNER DEVELOPER OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE, UH, THE JONES ESTATE PRD SUPER-CLOSE LAKES AREA.
SO, UM, K DANNY, AND IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPING THE AREA WHERE THE GRAVE SITES WERE LOCATED.
I DO HAPPEN TO BE THE ENGINEER FOR THEM AS WELL.
AND SO WHEN WE WERE APPLYING FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE 44 UNITS IN FRONT OF, UH, CYPRESS RAZOR MILL CREEK, WE INCLUDED THIS, UH, AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
AND DO YOU HURT AND WAS OKAY WITH US ADDING THAT, UH, SEEING THAT IT WAS A MASTER PLAN OF THE ENTIRE AREA AND CREATING THE GREEN SPACE IN FRONT OF, UH, THE FOUR SEASONS PROPERTY OR SEASONS DOES PLAN ON, UH, THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY AS TO WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A FEE SIMPLE PROPERTY, OR WHETHER IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN EASEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, THAT'S 33 FEET BY 22 FEET, WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE LIMITS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE'S ARCHEOLOGISTS, UH, FOR THE GRAY AREA.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH WOODEN PARTNERS, UH, AND HUB IS WORKING WITH WOODEN PARTNERS TO ESTABLISH AN ATTRACTIVE FENCE AND A PATHWAY THAT LEADS TO THERE.
UM, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ACCEPT ANY INPUT YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OUT IN FRONT, NOT SPECIFICALLY AT THE GRAVE SITE, BUT IN THAT GENERAL AREA AND ANY ENHANCEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, WE'RE WELCOME TO THAT FEEDBACK.
UM, AND, AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL ADD WHAT WE DEEMED OR WHAT YOU DEEM TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SITE, MIKE, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT, UM, COMFORTABLY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, EMOTIONAL OR HAVE THAT IN, IN WRITING SURE.
I, UH, YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS AND THEY'VE BEEN IN A REPORT, BUT IS THERE A WALKABLE PATH THAT'S 75 FEET.
WALKABLE, MEANING TO FIND Y'ALL ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DEFINE A PATHWAY THERE.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? FRED, DO YOU, CAN YOU READ THIS, ADD HOW YOU WON'T BE ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE TO BE CONFIRMED OR DO YOU NEED RICH AND I NEED YOU, UH, I NEED YOU TO TRANSLATE THAT LEGALLY FOR US BUDDY.
AND JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE ALL OF Y'ALL'S CONDITIONS AND THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IS CLARIFYING AND, UM, CLARIFYING THAT THERE IS ACCESS TO THE GRAVE SITE AND CLARIFYING, IF YOU COULD JUST PROVIDE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON, JUST SO I CAN GET THAT LANGUAGE.
UM, WE, THE VISION, WE, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE US WITH A CLEAR PICTURE
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SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FEEL LIKE.UM, WHAT, HOW THE, UH, GRAY SIDE IS GOING TO BE PRESERVED, OR I WAS GONNA OWN WITH A FAMILY MEMBER WAS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
SO, UM, AND I LIKED, I LIKED THE FACT THAT THEY, UM, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THERE, BUT WITHOUT, WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION IS HARD FOR ME TO FEEL LIKE WE CAN SAY, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE IT TO THAT.
SO WOULD YOU BE, WOULD YOU BE HAPPY WITH, OR BE CONTENT WITH, SAY, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT FOR CYPRESS RIDGE ESTIMATED SUBJECT TO, UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDING TOWN STAFF WITH A DETAILED PLAN, UM, SHOWING THE PRESERVATION OF THE GRAVE SITE AND, UM, PERMANENT ACCESS TO THE GRAVE SITE? OR IS IT SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO COME BACK FOR? COUNCIL?
FRED, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND? MIKE WANTED TO RESPOND? YES.
UM, I THINK THAT I DON'T, I WANT TO, I WANT THE PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S THAT PORTION OF IT.
I NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
I JUST WANTED TO GET FRED'S COMMENTS TO THAT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF FOUR SEASONS AND PART OF THAT INCLUDED A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO AT THE TIME THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS PREPARED.
ORIGINALLY, WE DID NOT KNOW OF THE GRAVE SITE.
IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE THAT A LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND THIS IS WITHIN THE HIGHWAY QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICT AS WELL, THAT IT WILL BE APPROPRIATE THAT REVISED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND REVISED HARDSCAPE PLAN IT'S APPROPRIATE, OR THE GRAVE SITE THAT ADEQUATELY SERVES THE GRAVE SITE WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK.
UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SO, UM, THAT WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE FULL DETAILED LANDSCAPE HARDSCAPE PLAN OF THAT CEMETERY SITE, GIVEN THE IDENTIFICATION OF IT, UM, AS NEW INFORMATION.
WILL IT GO TO A STAFF? IT WILL THEN GO TO STAFF.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO STATE IS, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIKE IT AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WALKABLE PATH, UH, TO THE, TO THE, TO THE SITE, UH, POTENTIALLY, UM, IN COUNCILMAN HAMPTON, I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT LIKE, UH, FENCING AROUND IT, UM, TO, TO SECURE THE SITE AS WELL AS MAYBE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE, UH, THAT DOES PROVIDE THAT SCREENING.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF ANY TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY MINIMAL SIGNAGE ON THE, THE FENCE, UM, THAT WOULD GIVE, UM, SOME TYPE OF INDICATION AS THAT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? UH, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESENTABLE? YES.
AND WHAT KEVIN? YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT WHAT WE SEE NOW, AND IT DOES NOT GIVE US ANY CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT, HOW PRESENTED WAS GOING TO BE, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE EXCESS LOOK OR FEEL LIKE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN, WE NOT FAR OFF, IT'S JUST THAT THEY DIDN'T, UM, THEY DIDN'T CATCH IT BEFORE THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK, LET ME, I THINK THE MOTION THAT RICHARDSON SAID COULD WORK AND CONDITIONED UPON MIKE, OUR COMPANY DRAWING OUT MORE THAN JUST A MAP, A SITE PLAN.
I THINK YOU WANT TO SEE MORE DIMENSION, LIKE TO SEE THE TREES AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ALMOST, OR NOT.
YOU HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN A VIRTUAL, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, WHAT CAN YOU SHOW US ON PAPER? UM, THAT SHOWS THE PATHWAY THAT NOT JUST THE PLACE WHERE YOU'RE DOING IT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE I HEAR HIM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MIKE HUGH SAYS, IT'S GOT TO COME BACK BEFORE, ANYWAY, THE CORRIDOR OVERLAY AND OTHER REVIEWS THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE THAT WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THAT HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY.
UH, IT WOULD GO BACK IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT'S MORE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF IT VERSUS THE MASTER PLAN.
WELL, I'M WITH FRED I'D LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME COMFORT BETWEEN WHAT MIKE JUST SAID AND WHAT RICHARDSON SAID IS A MOTION
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WITHOUT HAVING THIS TO COME BACK MONTH.SO TO CONDITION IT, SEEING A MORE DETAILED VISUAL OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, YOU CAN CHIME IN.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO BE.
MIKE HUGHES, CAN YOU, DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES, NO PROBLEM.
SO NOW RICHARDSON, WHAT'S THAT MOTION? SO I THINK THE, AGAIN, AS I UNDERSTAND FROM COUNCIL, I MOVED TO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT FOR CYPRESS RIDGE AS SUBMITTED CONDITIONED UPON A, UH, THE APPLICANT PRODUCING A MORE DETAILED, UM, DEPICTION OF THE PRESERVATION OF THE GRAVE SITE WITH, UM, LANDSCAPING AND FENCING, AS WELL AS DETAILED ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY TO BE SUBMITTED TO.
AND, UH, TO CLARIFY, IS IT PLANNING COMMISSION OR TOWN COUNCIL THAT YOU'D LIKE IT TO GO TO? I THINK YOU SHOULD COME TO TOWN COUNCIL, JUST BRING IT BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL BEFORE.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO ADD ANOTHER MONTH ON IT.
IF WE WENT TO PLANT AS SERIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN.
SO IF YOU WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW THAT WILL SATISFY WITH IT? THAT'S MY ONLY PROBLEM.
I WOULD HOPE STAFF WOULD LET YOU, OR, AND OTHERS LOOK AT IT AND MAKE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT IS WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT TO START COMING BACK BEFORE US.
I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
I THINK WE HAVE TO GET PAID AND KNOW THAT KEVIN'S GOING TO CARRY THE FLAG FOR US.
THEN SAY, OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION RICHARDSON? CAN YOU WRITE THAT FOR T FOR MIKE AS WELL AS KIM FOR A MINUTE MOTION AND SECOND WAS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT WITH GENERALLY SPEAKING WITH A MORE DETAILED, UH, DRAWING OF ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT, THAT RICHARDSON LAID OUT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED? NONE WERE OPPOSED.
AND THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR ADDING THAT FOR US.
UM, NEXT IS NUMBER SIX AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE IT'S ON, BUT I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF ON THIS.
AND I SENT THE RECUSAL TO KIM AND TERRY.
IT IS A CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
I'M TRYING TO END THIS BROWN TIN.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE APPROVAL OF AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON EXTENDING TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS AND AUTHORIZED TOWN MANAGER TO DEVELOP IN AN ACT SUCH PLANS AND POLICIES NEEDED TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF DELIVERY OF GOVERNANCE SERVICES IN LIGHT OF THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK, SCOTT MARSHALL, WHEN IT WAS A MOUTHFUL, WASN'T THERE.
IT ALWAYS IS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU REALLY WANTING US TO DO? NICE LONG TITLES.
WELL, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UH, OUR CURRENT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AND WE'RE OPERATING UNDER WHAT'S ALLOWS US TO DO SEVERAL THINGS, UH, AND I'LL GET TO THOSE IN A MOMENT.
AND SO WE'RE HERE TO, UH, GAUGE WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE ANOTHER EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, WHICH EXTENDS SOME OF THE AUTHORITY THAT WAS GRANTED, UH, WITHIN THAT ORIGINAL EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
WE'VE ALREADY EXTENDED IT ONE TIME THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS.
UH, JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND FOR YOU ON MARCH 16TH IS WHEN A STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED BY A MIDDLE REPLY PROCLAMATION.
UH, COUNCIL ADOPTED THE FIRST EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, 20 2003 ON MARCH 17TH.
UH, IT PROVIDED STANDARDS FOR ELECTRONIC MEETINGS IN SECTION ONE.
IT ALSO AUTHORIZED THE TOWN MANAGER TO DEVELOP AND ENACT ALL SUCH PLANS AND POLICIES INTENDED TO ENSURE A CONTINUITY OF DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
AND SECTION TWO, IT'S EXTENDED CERTAIN MUNICIPAL DEADLINES IN SESSION THREE AND FOUR.
AND THOSE WERE PRIMARILY, UH, HAD TO DO WITH THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX DEADLINES ON BUSINESS LICENSE PAYMENTS
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ON APRIL 14TH, COUNCIL ADOPTED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 2020 DASH FOUR, WHICH EXTENDED SECTIONS THREE AND FOUR, UH, WHICH ESTABLISHED CLEAR DEADLINES FOR BUSINESS LICENSE AND CERTAIN MUNICIPAL TAXES ON MAY 12TH.YOU ADOPTED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 2020 DASH OH FIVE, WHICH EXTENDED SECTIONS ONE AND TWO OF THE ORIGINAL EMERGENCY ORDINANCE UNTIL JULY 18TH.
AND THAT'S IN A FEW DAYS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE NEW EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, UH, UNDER THE AUTHORITY THAT WAS GRANTED BY SECTIONS ONE AND TWO IN THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
UH, THERE WERE SOME DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE REGARDING HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THEY'RE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, TO CONDUCT TOWN BUSINESS ARE NOW ACCOMPLISHED ELECTRONICALLY.
THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING TO YOU THROUGH MY COMPUTER TONIGHT.
UH, PHYSICAL STAFFING OF TOWN FACILITIES, UH, IS REDUCED TO THE BARE MINIMUM REQUIRED TO CONDUCT DOWN BUSINESS.
WE A VERY SMALL HUMAN FOOTPRINT IN OUR TOWN FACILITIES.
UH, AND THIRD, UH, TELECOMMUTING POLICIES HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ABLE TO WORK REMOTELY ALSO UNDER THE AUTHORITY THAT WE'RE GRANTED BY SECTIONS ONE AND TWO, THERE WERE SOME DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE WITH REGARD TO PROVIDING ACCESS TO SOME OF OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES IN TOWN.
UH, AND THERE ARE BASICALLY FIVE OF THESE THAT I WILL COVER WITH YOU.
UH, THE FIRST IS THAT, UH, ACCESS TO ALL OF OUR DOCKS AND BOAT RAMPS WAS CLOSED ON APRIL 1ST, 2020.
AND THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH GOVERNMENT GOVERNOR MCMASTER'S, UH, EXECUTIVE ORDER, UH, FOR THE SAME.
THE SECOND IS THAT THE AUSTER FACTORY BOAT RAMP WAS REOPENED ON APRIL 17TH, AND THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE GOVERNOR, WHICH WAS TO REOPEN BOAT RAMPS, RESTRICTIONS TO TOWN, PUBLIC BATHS REMAINED IN PLACE AFTER A GOVERNOR'S ORDER THAT SUCH JURISDICTIONS COULD BE LIFTED BY LOCALITIES IF THEY WANTED TO.
AND THAT ORDER WAS GIVEN ON APRIL 21ST, UH, ALSO ACCESS TO PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS WAS CLOSED WHEN APRIL 1ST THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER TO CLOSE PLAYGROUNDS AND ACTIVITIES THAT ALSO INVOLVED THE USE OF SHARED SPORTING APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT.
THE ACCESS TO TOWN PARKS AND DOCKS WAS OPENED ON JUNE 1ST, WHICH WAS SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE EXPIRATION OF A PREVIOUS GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
HOWEVER, ACCESS TO PLAYGROUNDS WITHIN THE TOWN OF LUFTON BY DIRECTION OF THE TOWN MANAGER REMAINS CLOSED.
AND THAT DECISION IS CONSISTENT WITH CDC RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO JUST A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE RELATIVE TO THE EXECUTIVE FOR THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCES THAT YOU HAVE PASSED SO FAR DURING THIS COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS ARE JUST A REMINDER.
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, AND IT REQUIRES A TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY VOTE.
THAT MEANS NO LESS THAN FOUR OR FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED FOR IT TO PASS.
UH, IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AS WRITTEN, UH, ON JULY 18TH FOR 60 DAYS, UNLESS IT'S IN A RESENDED PENNY GETS APPROVAL.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION IN THE TOWN UNDER THE EMERGENCY PROTOCOLS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN ABSENCE OF APPROVAL IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
HOWEVER, THE TOWN OPERATIONS AS ESTABLISHED BY THE TOWN AND COLLECTIVE ORDINANCES WOULD RETURN TO NORMAL WOULD RETURN TO NORMAL LONG JULY 18TH.
WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE HAVE A, UH, A CODE OF ORDINANCES, UH, THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED CERTAIN HOURS THAT PARKS AND FACILITIES WOULD BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, BUSINESS HOURS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED, UH, AND WAYS THAT WE CONDUCT BUSINESS AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED, UH, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY.
THAT'S BEEN GRANTED TO THE TOWN MANAGER THROUGH EMERGENCY ORDINANCES, UH, WHICH ARE BASED IN AUTHORITY TO OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, UH, FOR EMERGENCY CONDITIONS.
HERE'S YOUR MOTION LANGUAGE, IF YOU, UH, CHOOSE TO CONSIDER IT, I'M ALSO AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE THEM ANY QUESTIONS OF ANYONE, THIS IS BASICALLY EXTENDING THE ORDINANCE QUESTIONS, SCOTT.
UH, NO, I, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT COUNSEL? IF WE, UM, DO THE EXTENSION, WHAT TIMEFRAME ARE WE LOOKING TO EXTEND IT TO, AGAIN, IT BURNS THE ORDINANCES BY THE THOUGHT OR, OR A WRITTEN FOR 60 DAYS UNLESS THEY'RE RESCINDED SOONER.
SO, UH, IT WOULD BE AN EFFECT ON JULY 18TH AND IT WOULD RUN 60 DAYS FROM JULY 18TH, UH, DO NOT HAVE THAT EXPIRATION DATE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
HOWEVER, IF CONDITIONS CHANGED AND THEY BECAME MORE FAVORABLE, COUNSEL COULD ALWAYS RESEND THAT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NATIONAL LATER, ALL RIGHT, ARE THE REST OF OUR OTHER
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TOWNS DOING THIS? WHAT IS THE COUNTY DOING? YES, MA'AM, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES ARE DOING.THEY'RE, THEY'RE ESTABLISHING EMERGENCY ORDINANCES BY LAW, UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS.
UH, YOU CAN ONLY ESTABLISH AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE LIKE THIS AND ITS CURRENT FORM FOR 60 DAYS AT A TIME.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO THAT WINDOW, BUT IS THE, OUR OTHER TOWNS AND OUR COUNTY DOING THIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF SCOTT OKEY-DOKEY? WELL, IF NOT, I'M GUESSING WE WILL.
I'LL SAY TO THE MOTION, IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE, TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES, UH, OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS AND OUR AUTHORIZED TOWN MANAGER TO DEVELOP AN EX SUCH PLANS AND POLICIES NEEDED TO ENSURE CONTINUITY IN THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES IN LIGHT OF COVID-19 OUTBREAK AS PRESENTED THERE.
SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, STEP OF SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU, SCOTT.
NOW, NUMBER SEVEN, I HAVE SUBMITTED MY RECUSAL OR SO I'M GOING TO TURN OFF THE VIDEO AND THE MUTE BUTTON, AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO FRED, BUT I'LL READ IT.
IT'S CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE.
ARTHUR RISING, A PARCEL EXCHANGE BETWEEN TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND M F H LAND FOR CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN WITHIN NEW RIVERSIDE AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION AND RECORDING OF CERTAIN DOCUMENTS YOU ARE OWN.
SO, UH, LIKE YOU STATED, THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE PARCEL BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND M F H LAND, UM, FOR PROPERTY WE'VE REFERRED TO AS NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST READING, UM, JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, 2019, UM, NEW RIVERSIDE LLC DONATED A LITTLE BIT OVER SEVEN ACRES WITHIN THE NEW RIVERSIDE'S PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, FOLLOWING IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 TOWN COUNCIL, UM, YOU ALL CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN, UM, WHICH INCLUDED THIS AREA.
UM, AND THIS WAS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT MASTER PLAN, UH, FORWARD TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION, AS FAR AS THE, THE SUBSEQUENT STEPS ONCE THAT WAS APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH I WILL BRING UP IN A MOMENT, BUT THAT SHOWS AN ALTERNATE LAYOUT FOR THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY HOUSE A TOWN PUBLIC OWNED PARK WITH AMENITIES, AS WELL AS THE STORMWATER FACILITIES.
UM, ALSO SHOWS SOME REVISIONS TO THE EXISTING PRIMARY ACCESS POINT ON NEWER SITE ROAD, UM, WHICH INCLUDES A MEDIAN CUT AND INSTALLATION OF TURN LANES THAT WILL SERVE AS NOT ONLY THIS NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, BUT ALSO, UM, THE ADJACENT PARCEL, THE TOWN OWNED PARCEL THAT WE REFER TO AS THE BARN PARCEL OR WHERE THE FIRE DISTRICT IS.
AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT MASTER PLAN THAT WAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED.
UM, THE FIRST STEP IS THE EXCHANGE OF THAT TOWN OWNED 7.1, ONE ACRES FOR THE RECONFIGURED PARCEL, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU, UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER IN MY PRESENTATION AND THEN ALSO TO MEMORALIZE EXCUSE ME, MEMORIALIZE THE PROVISIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
SO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PUBLIC PARK COST SHARING FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE MEDIAN CUT AND THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED AS WELL AS MAINTENANCE, RESPONSIBILITIES, EASEMENTS, AND STUFF.
AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT, A LAND SWAP AGREEMENT AND PUBLIC PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT, THERE ARE VARIOUS PROVISIONS, UM, HIGHLIGHT AND SUMMARY OF THOSE ARE AGAIN THAT RECONFIGURATION OF THE, UM, PROPERTY, UM, THE OBLIGATION.
SO WHAT, UH, M A M F H LAND HAS AGREED TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND CONSTRUCT AS FAR AS WHAT THE TOWN, UM, MAY PROCEED FORWARD WITH FUTURE PHASES FOR THE PARK.
AND AGAIN, THAT LEADS INTO THOSE OBLIGATIONS FOR THE TOWN IS AS FAR AS IN FUTURE PHASES, SHOULD THE TOWN, UM, DECIDE TO INSTALL PLAYGROUND, EQUIPMENT, LIGHTING, UM, KIOSK AND SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE TOWN MOVING FORWARD, THE COST SHARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO NEW RIVERSIDE ROADS, TO THAT MEDIAN CUT THE INSTALLATION OF THE TURN LANES AND, UM, WHAT STAFF HAD WORKED WITH AS FAR AS,
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UM, THE, THE NUMBERS AND, UH, WHICH IS HOW WE GOT TO THE 60% AND THE 40%, AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE TOWN TO ACCESS THE TOWN PARK, AS WELL AS WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NEEDED FOR, UM, FOR THIS PROPERTY.SO THE, THIS IS HOW THE, UM, THE SPLIT TURNED OUT MOVING FORWARD.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES EASEMENTS FOR THE UTILITIES, STORMWATER MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS, UM, EASEMENTS FOR ACCESS PARK, PARKING, SIGNAGE, UM, DRAINAGE AND MAINTENANCE.
NOW MOVING TOWARDS, UM, MOVING FORWARD TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.
THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN HERE TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE.
UM, HERE IS THE CIRCLE THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE THERE.
SO THIS, UM, YOU MAY RECALL THIS AS THAT MASTER PLAN, THAT THAT WAS APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL, AND THEY DID MEET THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE ALSO PART OF THAT, THAT APPROVAL GOING THROUGH THERE.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARCEL, THIS CORNER HERE, PARCEL FOR B3, THAT IS THE, UM, PARCEL THAT THE TOWN CURRENTLY OWNS.
AND THIS SHOWS THAT DRAFT RE UM, RECONFIGURATION PLAN AND, AND FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS THE CIRCLE.
SO THEY, THE, UM, THE NORTH OF THE MAP DID, DID CHANGE SLIGHTLY, BUT THIS IS THAT RECONFIGURATION PLAN.
SO YOU SEE THIS LITTLE PIECE, THIS PIECE HERE, THIS PIECE HERE, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS THAT TOWN PARK, PROPOSED TOWN PARK.
AGAIN, HERE'S ANOTHER VISUAL THAT SHOWS THE HATCHED AREA SHOWS WHERE THAT CONFIGURATION WOULD FOLLOW.
AND THEN THIS INCLUDES, THIS IS A SCHEMATIC PLAN OF WHAT THAT PART COULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT IT WOULD BE ENVISIONED.
SO HERE IN THIS TOP CORNER OF THE SLIDE IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THAT BRIDGE, SO TO SPEAK ACROSS THAT, UM, STORMWATER POND, BUT THAT STORMWATER POND WOULD ALSO FUNCTION AS AN AMENITY.
HERE'S A VIEWING PIER AND A FISHING GUIDE.
MOVING FORWARD IN THE AGREEMENT, IT ALSO INCLUDES THAT MH M F H LAND IS OBLIGATED TO INSTALL THE LANDSCAPING.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT TREES, SHRUBS, AND WHAT WOULD BE INSTALLED IN THAT AREA.
THIS HAS NOT YET BEEN APPROVED OR REVIEWED IN DETAIL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HOWEVER, WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
HOWEVER STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT.
AND, UM, IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE EXISTING REGULATIONS, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UM, THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU FOR A WORKSHOP ITEM, AGAIN, OUTLINING THE OBLIGATIONS FOR MFH LAND.
SO THE, WHAT, UM, THE TOWN WOULD BE RECEIVING, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, IS THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC TOWN OWNED PARK, WHICH INCLUDES POND IMPROVEMENTS FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND OPEN SPACE AMENITY A MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL SYSTEM, A PHISHING PLATFORM, A VIEWING PLATFORM, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION, M A M F H LAND ALSO AGREES TO CONSTRUCT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO NEW NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD THAT ARE NEEDED, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE LEFT TURN LANE INTO NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, THE MEDIAN CROSSOVER, AS WELL AS THE CORRESPONDING LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE TOWNS, ADJACENT PROPERTY, THAT, UM, BARN PROPERTY THAT I REFERRED TO, THEN WHAT THE TOWN MAY PROCEED FORWARD, UM, IN FUTURE AGAIN, FUTURE PHASES, IT, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT IS, UM, PLANNED OUT WOULD BE THE DETAILS OF THAT TOWN PARK.
SO PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, SIGHT, LIGHTING, SIGHT FURNITURE, WAYFINDING SIGNAGE, AND THEN ALSO REIMBURSEMENT OF THE 60% OF THE TOTAL COSTS FOR THAT MEETING AND TURNING LANE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND THAT, UH, IN INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT AGREEMENT IS THE COMPLETION DATE FOR THE TOWN, WHICH IS, UH, KIND OF WEIGHTED TO BE DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.
UM, THAT DRAFT AGREEMENT, UH, IS IN YOUR PACKETS.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE.
SHOULD YOU, UM, APPROVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? I DO HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION, AND I DO KNOW THAT, UM, THE TEAM FOR M F H LAND IS, UM, HAS BEEN INVITED TO THIS MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW AS IF THEY'RE OUT OF THE WAITING ROOM, BUT THEY ARE HERE FOR, UM, TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, ANSWERS OR INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
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UM, CAN, CAN SCROLL TO ANY SECTION OF EITHER THE STAFF REPORT AND PACKET OR MY PRESENTATION.AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR HEATHER? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT IS A, WHAT IS A VIEWING? LET ME SCROLL UP TO THE ON, SO THE VIEWING THERE'S TWO PLATFORMS AND THE VIEWING PLATFORM IS JUST WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF, YEAH.
SO HERE'S THE FISHING, HERE'S A LOOKOUT POINT.
SO IT'S WHERE YOU CAN JUST GET SOME VIEWS, UM, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IN THE PLAN, THAT'S CONTEMPLATED THAT THERE'D BE THE VIEWING ONE VIEWING PLATFORM AND ONE FISHING DOCK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL HEAR THEM SOUND LIKE EVERYBODY ON MUTE.
HELLO? I THOUGHT THE SAME SERVICE.
OTHER THAN GO BACK TO THE MOTION, PLEASE.
UM, BY FIRST READING WITH THIS AUTHORIZE, IT POSSIBLY EXCHANGED BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE M M F H LANE, LLC.
FOR CERTAIN, YOUR PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WITHIN THE NEW RIVER IDENTIFIED, IT ARE SIX 10 (036) 032-1400 AND AUTHORIZED AND NO CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THERE WOULD, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? IS THERE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.
YOU CAN COME BACK NOW IF YOU WILL.
UM, ANYTHING YOU NEED PULLED OFF FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO DISCUSS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE? SEC.
LARRY SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
AND NEXT WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR CONTRACTUAL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 20, 20 TO 2024 TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR YOU ACT 34 78, TWO AND CONTRACTUAL MATTERS PRETENDING TO MARSHALL HORTON, ESQUIRE FOR SERVICES AS A TOWN OF BLUFFTON MUNICIPAL JUDGE THAT'S FOR YAK 34 78 TO YOUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION DO WE, DO WE STAY ON OR DO WE ALL OFF AND START OVER ONE TIME? WE ARE, ADAM GETS EXECUTIVE SESSION OF VOTES FOR CASTS.
NO ACTION WAS TAKEN, BUT WE DO HAVE ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MOVING ON TO THE MOTION, THE, UH, APPOINTMENTS, UH, IT FOUND THAT ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT MICHAEL TRIBECA, NATE PRINGLE AND KRISTI PARKER.
SECOND KIM, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING I READ AN EASIER AND EASIER WAY TO DO THIS IS JUST TO READ THEM ALL AND MAKE ONE BIG MOTION.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE NEXT BIG MOTION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING NAMES? BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, REAPPOINTMENT LAWRENCE GARRISON, STEVEN HALPERN
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CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS.JOSEPH NIXON, ROBERT MARINO, DON RYAN CENTER FOR INNOVATION, EDWARD TAYLOR, KEVIN RYAN, WALTER NESTER, HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, REAPPOINT, MICHAEL LOVECCHIO, AND BRUCE TREMPER, AND, UH, MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO APPOINT AMBER KUNE AND WAL AVANIR COMMITTEE REAPPOINT, BATTY GUCCIO AND LAURA BUSH.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR ALL OF THOSE NIGHTS? SO MOVED.
ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
AND THEN FINALLY, ON THE SECOND ITEM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING JUST COMPENSATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR EASEMENTS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE APPROVED GOATEE SCHULTZ PHASE TWO SIDEWALK PROJECT? THE AMOUNT OF THE EASEMENTS IS $9,044 WITH A 50% CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR NEGOTIATION.
DAN SO MOVED AND LARRY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? FRED.