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ORDER AT FIRST ITEM IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IF EVERYBODY COULD STAND WITH ME FOR A SECOND, PLEASE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, OUR OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, ANGELA MIDDLETON HAD AN FAMILY EMERGENCY, SO SHE WILL NOT BE JOINING US TODAY.
UM, AND THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE COUNTY CHANNEL YOUTUBE.
SO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM FIRST ACTION ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA OF TODAY'S MEETING AND I WILL SECOND THAT ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGENDA? OKAY.
SEEING NONE CALL FOR THE VOTE.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY, SO WE CAN MOVE PAST THAT ITEM.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 25TH, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT FOR MARCH 25TH, 2021 ARTICLE I'LL SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THOSE MINUTES, SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THAT.
AND MOVING DOWN TO OUR MAIN ITEM OF THE AGENDA TODAY IS THE DISCUSSION WITH AND TOWN OFFICIALS.
UM, WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE ENOUGH TODAY TO HAVE MARY LISA
I APOLOGIZE, HEATHER, I DON'T RECALL YOUR, YOUR TITLE OR YOUR POSITION, SO, UM, BUT IF YOU COULD LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT YOUR POSITION IS AND, UM, KIND OF WHAT YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF WITH THE TOWN.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
I KNOW MAYOR SILKA IS HERE AS WELL.
AND I HAVE, IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT WE DID.
UM, I KNOW MARK ORLANDO THEN TELL ME ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, UM, THAT WE'VE PROVIDED.
SO, AND THEN, UM, MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, ANYTIME I'M SPEAKING OR ANYONE ASK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT JUST, UH, JUST TO GIVE A BASE OF WHERE WE AT WITH GROWTH RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
MOLLY, IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT.
CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? OKAY, PERFECT.
SO, UH, AGAIN, JUST WANTING TO GO THROUGH WHERE WE'RE AT WITH GROWTH, A LOT OF THE, WHAT I WILL SHOW YOU OUR TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, AND SOME THINGS THAT MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU FROM PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS OR EVEN INFORMATION THAT I'VE SHARED WITH, UM, CAROL AND ROBERT, UM, JUST FOR GROWTH IN NUMBERS, IN THE TOWN, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AWAITING THE NEW CENSUS NUMBERS.
BUT OUR, UM, WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS WE ARE 54 SQUARE MILES.
92% OF THAT IS WITHIN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
AND I'LL GET TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, GOING FURTHER OUT USING WHAT OUR DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS ARE.
WE THINK WE'RE AT APPROXIMATELY 50 OR 46% BUILD OUT.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
AND AS SOON AS WE WRITE THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'RE SOON OUT OF DATE.
UH, BUT ANYWAYS, UH, MOVING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, OUR BEST GUESS IS THAT WE ARE, UM, A LITTLE BIT OVER 25,000.
AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF ALL, UM, WAITING.
WE THOUGHT THEY'D BE OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT WAITING FOR THOSE CENSUS NUMBERS TO SEE WHERE, WHERE THOSE THEY WERE AT.
BUT THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, JUST A SCREENSHOT OF, OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOU CHANGE THAT ALWAYS ASK US, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH THAT 40 PER 6%.
CAN YOU GET THEM NOT MAYBE TODAY OR LATER THE BREAKDOWN DOWN RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IT'S MORE BUILT OUT RESIDENTIAL.
AND I WILL GO THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SUMMARY AND, AND GET WITH THAT TOO.
SO YES, IT CERTAINLY IS DEFINITELY MORE RESIDENTIAL.
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OF SLIDES BECAUSE IT SHOWS REALLY HOW WE'VE GROWN.I'LL GO THROUGH THESE FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT PRIOR TO 87, 1987, WE WERE, UH, THAT ONE SQUARE MILE YOU WERE THAT YOU OFTEN HEAR BLUFFTON REFERRED TO AS, AND THEN CONTINUED TO GROW.
SO AS YOU SEE OUR DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS GROW, IT'S ALSO A RESULT OF THE LAND GROWING AS WELL.
SO THESE SLIDES JUST KIND OF SHOW HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HOW THAT BELT BUCKLE HAS CONTINUED TO EXPAND OVER YEARS, UH, IN TIME, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY, UH, PALMETTO BLUFF AND ANNEXATION THAT OCCURRED.
AND AS I GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES, MOST OF THESE ANNEXATIONS ARE ALL THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS, IS ESSENTIALLY A, A CONTRACT SO TO SPEAK.
SO EVERYBODY IS CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL, UM, WHAT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? SO IT'S CLEAR EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THAT FINAL BUILD-OUT NUMBER COULD BE OBVIOUSLY, UM, PENDING ANY AMENDMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT WOULD ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AGAIN, AGAIN, CONTINUING ON A LOT OF THIS IS BUCK WALTER AREA, UM, UH, THROUGHOUT, AND AGAIN, YOU JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE THE PINK CONTINUES TO GROW, UH, THROUGH THE DISTRICT.
UH, YOU'VE GOT BUCHWALD OR EXCUSE ME, BLUFFTON PARKWAY, THE SCHULTZ TRACK.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO SHOW HOW THAT'S INCREASED SOME SMALLER PIECES, UM, CONTINUE TO GO ON THROUGH 2015.
AND THEN AGAIN, JUST, THIS IS THE OVERALL, UM, TOWN LIMITS, ANYTHING IN PINK.
SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE DONUT HOLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO LIKE I SAID, 92% OF THAT LAND.
SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE IN ORANGE IS WHAT'S DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
YOU SEE THAT KIND OF GRAYISH COLOR, THAT'S EITHER JUST A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR THAT STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, UM, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER TO FIGURE OUT THOSE NUMBERS, BUT IT COULD BE A DENSITY CALCULATION FOR UNITS BREAKER, OR A MORE FORM-BASED CODE WHERE MAKE ALL OF THESE LOT DIMENSIONS WORK AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD SO 92% OF THAT LAND, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING IN ORANGE, WE KNOW WHAT THOSE FINAL APPROVED NUMBERS WILL BE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN, BUT I CAN ZOOM IN.
AND THIS IS INFORMATION THAT, UH, GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAFF DOES ON A ANNUAL BASIS.
SO IF YOU WERE TO GO TO OUR TOWN COUNCIL WEBS OR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING PACKET FROM JANUARY, YOU'LL FIND ALL THIS INFORMATION AND I'VE SHARED IT WITH, UM, CAROL AND CAN GET IT TO THIS ENTIRE GROUP IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
SO YOU'LL SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND AGAIN, THAT REFLECTS ALL THAT LAND IN ORANGE.
I SHOWED YOU THE ACREAGE, THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, UM, WHAT THE DENSITY IS FOR THE COMMERCIAL CIVIC SPACE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
EVERY, EVERY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND THEN WHAT THE PUBLIC DEDICATION IS.
SO THERE'S AREAS FOR EXAMPLE, POST OFFICE SCHOOL, UM, PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, UM, WHEN THOSE AREAS WERE ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN FAST-FORWARDING, AND THIS IS WHAT, UM, AGAIN, AS SOON AS WE PRINT THESE MAPS, THEY'RE ALREADY OUT OF DATE.
SO I ALREADY HAVE TO, TO ADD SOME COUPLE OF, TO ADD TO THIS MAP, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, THIS IS THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AREAS, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THE BUILD-OUT AREAS.
SO YOU'LL SEE TO THE LEFT THERE, THE DIFFERENT SHADED AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, PALMETTO BLUFF ALL IN YELLOW, LARGE AREA, THEY'RE ONLY AT 19% RESIDENTIAL, BUILD-OUT 11% TOTAL.
SO THEY STILL HAVE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME MORE DETAILED SLIDES.
THEY STILL HAVE A LOT, A LOT MORE HOMES THAT COULD BE BUILT, UM, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND YOU'LL SEE AGAIN, THROUGHOUT LEFT AND VILLAGE, WHICH IS WHERE THE LIBRARY IS, IS, UM, ART AT 84% BUILD OUT.
SO THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT THEY WERE ULTIMATELY APPROVED.
THIS HERE, WHEN YOU DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED IS THE APPROVED MASTER PLAN.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN WITHIN EACH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE MASTER PLANS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE PALMETTO BLUFF AREA, YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE SUBSECTIONS OF EACH AREA THOUGH.
EACH OF THOSE AREAS GO THROUGH A MASTER PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, WHERE ARE THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS GOING TO BE? WHERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL, HOW DO THE ROADS WORK AND ALL OF THAT'S APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAD AS OF, UM, 2015.
AND A LOT OF THESE MASTER PLANS WERE APPROVED YEARS AGO.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO BE BUILT FOR EXAMPLE, ALLSTON PARK, UM, BUCK WALTER PLACE.
I GOING THROUGH THAT LIST, HAMPTON LAKES, THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE STILL BUILDING, BUT THAT PLAN WAS APPROVED YEARS AGO.
BUT TWO THAT I DO HAVE TO ADD IS IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA.
SO NEAR THAT NEW RIVERSIDE CIRCLE, WE'VE HAD AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ABOUT 800 MORE HOMES APPROVED THROUGH MASTER PLANS, AND THAT'S THE LANDING THAT NEW RIVERSIDE
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AND NEW RIVERSIDE FOREST.SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DO NEED TO UPDATE ON THIS MAP, BUT THIS, THIS GOES THROUGH EACH OF THOSE AREAS, SO TO SPEAK.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE DO THAT AND WE UPDATE THAT INFORMATION ANNUALLY.
I ALSO HAVE THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THAT I CAN PULL UP AS WELL, AGAIN, LOTS OF NUMBERS, BUT VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO A, UM, A MONTHLY REPORT TO TOWN COUNCIL THROUGH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT WHAT'S BEING BUILT, WHAT'S BEING APPROVED.
I JUST TOOK ONE SNIPPET, UM, FROM THIS PAST MARCH, THIS IS AS OF MARCH 31ST, BUT THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS WE'VE APPROVED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
SO YOU'LL SEE HERE IN THIS LAST COLUMN, THAT'S, UM, KEY DATE FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.
SO BASICALLY THE FIRST QUARTER, TOTAL NEW SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST RELEVANT AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL, JUST OTHER RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
I WOULD PRESUME WE'RE AT ABOUT 239.
SO IF WE CONTINUE THIS PACE JUST FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL, THE NEW MULTI-FAMILY, NEW SINGLE FAMILY, WE'RE ON TRACK TO, UM, RIGHT ABOUT A THOUSAND THOUSAND UNITS THIS YEAR.
AND IF YOU'LL SEE THE LAST TIME, THERE IS NO TIME PRIOR TO 2010 THAT WE HIT THAT NUMBER.
SO, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW FAST AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO STAY BUSY.
SO, AND AGAIN, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT, UH, LAST YEAR WE DID 638.
UM, THE HIGHEST YEAR ON, UM, THIS CHART WOULD BE 2017 AT 870.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ON TRACK TO CONTINUE THAT YES, THIS, I THINK, UM, MAY OR MAY BE WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO WHEN WE SAID THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SUMMARY.
AGAIN, THESE ARE LOTS OF NUMBERS DOES NOT, UM, DOES NOT SHOW REAL WELL ON A SLIDE, BUT ALL OF THAT DETAIL IS HERE.
SO YOU'LL SEE, UM, HERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AREAS AND WHAT WAS INITIALLY PERMITTED.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, LEFT AND VILLAGE 38 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OVER 212,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE AND OTHER SPACE.
SO WHERE THEY'RE AT, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF TRACKING IT.
WE HAVE A UTILIZED BUILT TRACKS, SO THAT MEANS IT'S, IT'S COME OUT OF THE GROUND.
THE STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN BUILT VERSUS JUST UTILIZED AND UTILIZED AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN PLANNED, IT'S PLANNED ON PAPER.
SO WE KEEP TRACK OF BOTH OF THAT.
SO WE'RE, SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGE.
SO AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS PAPER PROVED SUBDIVISION, TOWN COUNCILS APPROVED IT IT'S, UM, IT WILL HAPPEN.
IT WILL BE BUILT AT SOME POINT, JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN, UM, AS WELL AS THAT, THAT BUILT NUMBER.
SO RIGHT NOW I'M GOING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND SOME TIMES IT'S COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES A LITTLE BIT.
CAUSE SOME, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL SPACE OFFICE SPACE, BUT REALLY SUMMARIZING THAT WE'RE AT 51% RIGHT NOW, I WILL SAY OVER TIME.
UM, WHEN I I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS, MY FIRST REPORT I DID, WE WERE AT 38% BUILD OUT.
SO WE STILL, WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO GO, BUT, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE THAT BUILD OUT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
UH, YOU'LL SEE, AGAIN, COMING TO BLUFF, THEY ARE AT ABOUT 40% OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE AGAIN, ARE UTILIZED, UM, IN THEORY, GOING TO COME ONLINE, BUT ONLY 3% OF THEIR COMMERCIAL.
SO, AND ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE HAVE, AND I CAN PULL THIS UP LIVE AS WELL IS IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHERE IT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT NUMBERS.
YOU WANT TO SEE REAL-WORLD, YOU'RE DRIVING BY, YOU SEE TREES, FLAG, YOU SEE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING.
WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL OUR DEVELOPMENT, UM, INTERACTIVE PERMITS MAP.
SO ANYTIME YOU SEE THESE LITTLE BLUE FLAGS, THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING AND THAT'S EITHER SOMETHING'S BEEN ON, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
A SUBDIVISION PLAN IS APPROVED AND THAT PULLS IT, THAT TIES DIRECTLY TO OUR PERMITTING SOFTWARE.
SO YOU SEE WHAT WE SEE, YOU SEE WHAT THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTED.
YOU SEE, UM, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHO IS APPLIED AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
YOU CAN EVEN CONTINUE TO DRILL DOWN INTO THE ACTUAL PERMIT ITSELF, LOOK AT INSPECTIONS AND, UM, AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU POSSIBLY WANT.
CERTAINLY YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL COUNT STAFF AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST DRIVING BY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE, WHERE ALL THOSE BLUE FLAGS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
SO AGAIN, LOTS OF TOOLS, TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO TRACK DEVELOPMENT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
THIS IS JUST WHERE WE'RE AT, LIKE SAID LOTS OF INFORMATION, LOTS OF TRANSPARENCY AND WAYS YOU CAN FIND US, UM, LIKE TO END WITH THAT.
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AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LIKE I SAID, I CAN PULL UP THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SUMMARY, UM, MAPS, OR EVEN THAT INTERACTIVE, UM, PERMIT FINDER.BUT LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ON TRACK TO APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND NEW UNITS.
UM, AGAIN, NO NEW APPROVED UNITS.
SO WE'RE STILL WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROJECTED.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT.
SO MAYOR SCHALKA, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE THEY, WELL, JUST, UH, THE, I LOVE YOUR, YOUR NEXT TO THE LAST SLIDE WHERE IT SAID, HOW MANY UNITS ARE LEFT AND MAYBE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND YOU CAN ANSWER IT.
BUT WHEN DEVELOPING AND AGREEMENTS WERE PUT INTO PLACE IN THE NINETIES AND THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, OF COURSE, DEVELOPERS ASKED FOR THE WORLD AND WE EXTORTED A LOT OUT OF THEM.
WE GOT PLACES FOR SCHOOLS AND MONEY, BUT OUT OF THE REMAINING ONES FOR DEVELOPMENT, UM, HEATHER HAVE, Y'ALL REALLY DUG DEEP TO SEE, UH, CAUSE I DON'T THINK ALL OF THIS COULD BE BUILT IF IT COULDN'T BE BUILT.
SO ARE WE 20 OR 30%, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN WHAT WE'LL EVER SEE BILL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS A PERCENTAGE.
I DON'T THINK PALMETTO BLUFF PLAYS INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL BUILD OUT.
UM, BUT I DO THINK NEW RIVERSIDE IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THESE THAT CAN NEVER BE BUILT.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY JUST ASKED FOR IT.
SO TAKE THAT NUMBER, NOT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PLUS OR MINUS A NUMBER.
AND I THINK WE COULD GET THAT FOR YOU IF WE ASKED, UM, SOMEONE ON OUR STAFF TO DIG DEEP, RIGHT.
AND, AND WE'VE START, WE STARTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THOSE MAJOR PROPERTY OWNERS AND LIKE YOU SAID, WHERE CAN IT TRULY BE A BELT? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO DONATE THOSE, UH, THOSE, THAT DENSITY TO A LAND BANK FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR RETIRE THOSE UNITS THROUGH, UM, ASSISTANCE WITH RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS, UM, PROGRAM.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AS WELL, THAT THROUGH TIME THAT HAS HAPPENED AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO, UM, SEEK OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, TO GET REALISTIC, UM, DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS, OR MORE REALISTIC DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS.
SO WE'VE STARTED TO LOOK AT THAT ON A LARGER, ON A LARGER SCALE.
UM, BUT YES, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN EXERCISE FOR, AS WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE AT THE NEXT GO AROUND, WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY WHAT REALLY COULD BE BUILT.
CAUSE THESE WERE JUST, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR TOWN COUNCIL AT THE TIME OR STAFF, BUT THESE WERE JUST KIND OF THEORETICAL WHAT COULD BE.
UM, BUT AS EVERYTHING'S CHANGED, I DON'T KNOW AS IF IT'S NECESSARILY WHAT WILL BE.
AND THEN I GUESS HAVE A QUESTION FOR RACHEL AND HER COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, HELP US HELP YOU ALL.
UM, I'M ALL ABOUT REQUEST REQUESTING, UM, PHASING, ARE THEY ASKING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW AND I'M A REALTOR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING TO BUY RIGHT NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REPRIEVE OF BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH THE PERMITS HAVE BEEN PULLED.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY, COVID ACTUALLY HAS GIVEN US SOME TIME WITH THIS CRAZINESS BECAUSE THEY ALMOST ARE THERE THEY'RE SELLING WHAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE CLEARED YET.
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE OF A YEAR OR MAYBE 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS TO PLAN THIS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US AND ASK US QUESTIONS, GIVE US IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER, NOT TO, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER, EVEN A LOCATIONS IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER AREAS OF SPEND THE RIGHT PLACE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL REALLY, I HAD NO LIGHTS OR ANYTHING AND HEATHER IS HERE TOO.
AND I APPRECIATE
AND I WAS GONNA SAY AS WELL, LIKE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS PLANNING AND FIGURING OUT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH NUMBERS AND SNAPSHOTS AND ANALYSIS, I KNOW IN COVID AND MEETINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND I APPRECIATE MOVING FORWARD BEING INVOLVED IN THIS AND LIKE MARISOL COZ STATED PHASING COORDINATION WITH SCHOOLS.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE DO, AS WE REVIEWED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WE INCLUDE ALL OF THE APPLICABLE AGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S OUTSIDE AGENCIES, UTILITY COMPANIES, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, AS WELL AS INTERNAL.
AND THAT MEANS THAT ALSO INCLUDING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE CHIEF, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WHAT NEEDS ARE THERE FOR? IS THERE SAFETY CONCERNS FOR, WITH CROSSING GUARDS IMPACTS FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL CROSSING GUARDS OR LOCATIONS AND, UM, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S THE BUILDING SIDE OF IT.
AND THEN THE PLANNING SIDE OF IT AS WELL.
SO AS YOU NEED ASSISTANCE FROM US OR THINGS WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, WE WILL ADD THEM TO OUR REVIEW CHECKLIST FOR SURE.
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UM, COLONEL GEIER GO FIRST FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN ALSO OPEN IT UP TO THE DISTRICT STAFF.UM, I KNOW COLONEL GEIER, YOU'VE HAD SOME, SOME QUESTIONS IN THE PAST AND THIS IS AN UPDATED, UM, VERSION OF THIS REPORT FOR US, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD INFORMATION, UM, MOVING FORWARD FOR OUR PLANNING PURPOSES.
UH, BEFORE I ASK THE QUESTIONS, UH, CAROL AND ROBERT, IS THERE ANYTHING IN WHAT YOU JUST HEARD THAT, UH, SURPRISES YOU OR YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF? NOT, NOT REALLY OTHER THAN YOU'RE GOING TO HIT A POSSIBLY A THOUSAND HOMES MORE THAN YOU'VE EVER HAD BEFORE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING, BUT BESIDES THAT, NOT REALLY, IT'S NOT MORE THAN WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE, BECAUSE FIVE AND SIX, WE WERE HITTING ABOUT 400 BUILDING PERMITS A MONTH.
SO, UM, YES, ON THE CHART, I WOULD LOVE TO GO BACK TO 2005 TO SEE BECAUSE IT WAS DOUBLE THIS, BUT, UM, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD BY STAFF, WE CAN EFFECTIVELY WORK WITH ABOUT EIGHT TO 900 A YEAR, BUT I'M LIKE I WAS WITH YOU.
I HOPE THAT DOESN'T GO TO A THOUSAND.
UM, AND I'M CONCERNED TOO, BOB ON THAT, BUT ANYWAY, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, NOTHING, NOTHING SURPRISING THERE.
CAUSE AGAIN, HEATHER SHARED A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, UM, IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY AND I THINK WE ACTUALLY INCORPORATED SOME OF HER DATA INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BOOK.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE LATEST AND GREATEST UP THERE.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SHARING THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN KEEP LOOKING AHEAD.
BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT ON TRACK FOR, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND IS, IS A LITTLE FRIGHTENING TO ME.
SO IT JUST, IT REITERATES WHAT WE, AS THIS COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SEEN THE LAW OR THE, EVEN THE DOWNTURN FOR ENROLLMENTS THAT WITH COVID, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS JUST VERIFIES IT'S TEMPORARY AND, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE GROWING AND IT'S GOING TO COME AND IT'S GOING TO COME FAST.
I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THIS INFORMATION, UM, CAROL AND ROBERT HAVE GIVEN US BEFORE SOME SIMILAR NUMBERS, BUT TO SEE THIS GRAPHICALLY LIKE THIS, UM, IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
MY ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD MORE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
THE QUESTION IS WHERE AND WHEN TO DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE BUILT, UH, THEY ADDITIONS TO RIVER RIDGE AND, AND MAY RIVER THIS YEAR WITH THIS REFERENDUM FUNDS.
AND THERE ARE NO MORE NEW BUILDING FUNDS IN THIS REFERENDUM THAT WE CAN USE TO BUILD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, AN ANOTHER REFERENDUM THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PASS IN PROBABLY TWO TO THREE YEARS.
AND WE NEED TO DO A LOT OF PLANNING FOR NOT ONLY SIZE, BUT ALSO LOCATION.
AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE OUR SCHOOLS ARE AND WHERE THE POPULATION GROWTH IS LOST AND HASN'T GROWN IN A LINEAR FASHION, IT HASN'T STARTED.
AND TO JUST EXPAND IT OUT ONE SIDE OR OTHER, IT'S BEEN CATS, KIND OF SCATTERSHOT.
OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT IN THE RIGHT SPOT FOR WHAT THE FINAL, WHEN THE LAST STUDENT IS COMPLETELY BUILT OUT, OUR SCHOOLS ARE PROBABLY NOT IN THE RIGHT SPOT RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE MOVED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADJUST ATTENDANCE ZONES.
AND WHEN YOU ADJUST ATTENDANCE ZONES, THAT BECOMES HIGHLY EMOTIONAL, UH, FOR PARENTS AND FOR CHILDREN WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE TOLD TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL, BECAUSE ONE SCHOOL IS, UH, IS OVERFILLED.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AHEAD TO THAT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT SOME, A NEW SCHOOL AND WHAT TYPE OF SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE HIGH SCHOOL K THROUGH EIGHT.
UM, AND WE NEED LAND OBVIOUSLY.
SO PROBABLY NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO PURCHASE SOME LAND BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK LAND IS GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER.
UH, WOULD YOU, AS, AS A REALTOR, YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IS
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PROBABLY A FACT, BUT SOME HELP WITH, UH, LOOKING AT PARCELS OF LAND.WISNIEWSKI MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE CAN WORK WITH A DEVELOPER AND SAY TO A DEVELOPER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HAVING A SCHOOL CLOSE TO A DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY A GREAT SELLING THING DEVELOPER.
AND SO MAYBE TALKING WITH THEM WILL HELP US.
UM, BUT MS. MS. MAYOR, UH, SINCE AS A REALTOR, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, IS DEMOGRAPHIC DATA.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF THESE HOMES ARE STARTER HOMES AND APARTMENTS? THOSE HOMES HAVE KIDS.
NOW OUR HIGHER END HOMES ARE FOUR OR $500,000 IN GREATER HOMES.
GENERALLY DON'T HAVE MANY IF ANY KIDS, SO THAT'LL KIND OF HELP US IF WE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT DEMOGRAPHIC GROWTH AND REALLY BY COST OF HOMES, WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO PUT THE RIGHT KIND OF SCHOOL.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE ASKED TO TALK TO REALTORS AS A GROUP BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE MARKET AND THEY KNOW THE DEMAND AND THEY KNOW THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING INQUIRIES TO MOVE TO BLUFFTON AND WHAT TYPE OF HOME THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO THAT WOULD KIND OF HELP US GIVE US SOME LEADING INDICATORS OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO BUILD THESE NEW SCHOOLS.
WELL, AND I WAS THINKING WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING, UM, COLONEL RIGHT, THAT'S AN ARMY TITLE.
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW'S A RETIRED COLONEL JUST MOVED HERE TO BUFORD.
SO I WOULD ASK IF HEATHER COULD GET BREE OR SOMEONE ON STAFF TO DIG DEEPER IN THIS, WE NEED OUT OF THESE NUMBERS.
AND I KNOW ROBERT YOUR SAN, HOW CRAZY THAT IS.
UM, PROBABLY HALF OF OUR BUILDING PERMITS ARE COMING FROM COMMUNITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS REALTORS, WE'RE, YOU, WE CAN'T ASK THEM THEIR AGE, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU PALMATE A BLOCK IS NOT IMPACTING YOUR SCHOOL.
UM, THE HAVEN IS DEFINITELY NOT AS AGE RESTRICTED.
UM, THE FOUR SEASONS AGE, RESTRICTED HAMPTON HALL AND HAMPTON LAKE MIDDLE, BUT NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FAMILIES BECAUSE OF NOTHING ELSE, THE PRICE POINTS.
SO IF WE COULD TAKE PROBABLY THOSE NUMBERS OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SCHOOL GRAPH.
THAT'S MUCH MORE PREDICTABLE FOR Y'ALL.
SO, UM, IT WON'T SHOCK YOU QUITE AS MUCH, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE THREE COMMUNITIES WITH 50% OF THE BUILDING PERMITS LAST YEAR, WE'RE COMING TO BLUFF HAMPTON HALL HAMPTON LIKE, SO YES.
DO RIVERSIDE HAS THE HAVEN, WHICH IS ALMOST BUILT OUT FOUR SEASONS IMPOUNDMENT, A BLOCK, AND REALLY LAWTON STATION IS KIND OF GETTING UP TO THAT PARALLEL MOVE FROM A HAMPTON HALL.
SO THAT'S THE REALTOR IN ME TALKING.
UM, AND, AND THAT THING THAT WOULD HELP YOU AND MAYBE PUT IT ON OUR MAP OR HAVE A MAP.
SO THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE ROADWAYS GO.
THE ONLY WORRY I HAVE IN THIS IS JUST DEALING WITH DEVELOPERS FOR SO MANY YEARS.
THEY'LL GIVE YOU LAND, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE YOUR SCHOOL IMPACT, YOU KNOW, 75% MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE WHOLE THING.
UM, IT ALMOST, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HANDLED THAT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SLOWING MANAGE, MANAGING GROWTH.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND IF THERE WAS EVER A CASE TO OPEN THEM, IF THE AREA CONFORMED TO WHERE YOU, MAYBE YOU SEND US YOUR AREAS, YOU BETTER BELIEVE WILL, MAYBE IT'S A COMMERCIAL TRENT THAT DOESN'T AFFECT SCHOOLS AND MAYBE THEY WANT MORE COMMERCIAL.
SO WE SAY, OKAY, GIVE US WHATEVER YOUR ACREAGE NEEDS ARE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ROUTE I WOULD GO WITH.
COMMERCIAL LAND IS CRAZY HIGH RIGHT NOW.
SO I DON'T THINK IT CAN GET HIGHER.
SO ADULT I'M WITH YOU, IS IT TOO HOT? CAN IT GET LOWER? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BREAKING POINT IS, BUT THAT, THAT MIGHT BE IT.
COULD THAT MAKE IT, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING AS A MOTHER OF THREE AND WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS HERE? I HAVE NEVER, AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM THE NORTHEAST WHO ARE USED TO LARGER SCHOOLS.
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OF LARGER HIGH SCHOOLS.AND I HOPE WE CAN LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AND INCREASED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, BUT CAUSE I THINK THAT GIVES US POWER DOWN THE ROAD, ACADEMICALLY ATHLETICALLY ALL AROUND WITH THE REST OF THE STATE.
SO JUST AS A CONSTITUENT OF RACHAEL'S, I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE THAT'S LAND YOU ALREADY HAVE AND HOW CAN WE EXPAND AND MAKE ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS AMAZING.
BUT ESPECIALLY THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE PROBLEM WE'VE GOT IS, IS SPACE OF THE, WHERE WE HAVE THE SCHOOLS NOW.
AND IT'S, IT GETS INTO THE SIZE OF THE CAFETERIA.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIZE OF THE GYMNASIUM AS YOU INCREASE THE DENSITY OF STUDENTS, THAT DENSITY OF SUPPORT SPACE HAS TO GO.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT OUR FOOTPRINT, DR.
LOUIS DESKY AND I HAVE VISITED EVERY SCHOOL AND LOOKED AT THE GROUND AND LOOKED AT WHAT'S THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TIGHT.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A CRYSTAL BALL 20 YEARS AGO, WE SURE WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING A LOT DIFFERENT AND A BIGGER SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER OPTION THEN, BUT NOW WE'RE KIND OF STUCK WITH WHAT WE GOT.
I WISH I HAD THAT SAME CRYSTAL BALL BECAUSE HEATHER AND MYSELF AND ALL OF US ARE REALLY DEALING WHAT WAS DEALT TO US.
AND, UM, IT'S SO EASY TO THINK AFTER IT'S DONE, BUT, AND I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL TOO.
I LOVE YOUR OBJECTIVE THINKING AND YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE REALLY MAKE IT WORK? UM, BUT WE'D LOVE TO SIT WITH YOU.
WE CAN GET A MAP, HEATHER CAN GET IN THE CAR AND WE CAN REALLY LOOK AT HIGH AREAS.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S SOME LAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS QUITE WET WHEN FOR SOME REASON WE BUILT IT, BUT, UM, W THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE YOUR PARTNERS.
UM, AND LET, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO, YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, UM, I KNOW DICK IS VERY SIMILAR TO ME AND THAT WHEN WE LIKE TO LOOK AT A MAP IN PERSON LOOKING AT ONE HERE ON A SCREEN, NOT SO EASY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A SCHOOL.
UM, AND ALSO WE WENT, WHEN DICK WAS SAYING THAT WE WENT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS, WE HAD AERIAL SHOTS OF ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS AND HOW THEY HAVE DEVELOPED OVER TIME.
WE LOOKED AT THE AVAILABLE LAND AROUND THEM, UM, TALKED ABOUT KIND OF WHERE THEY WERE WITH STRAIN RIGHT NOW, UM, THE COMMON AREAS AND THE CAFETERIA AND WHATNOT.
AND SO WE REALLY ARE CONSTRICTED IN WHAT WAS ALREADY BUILT IN HOW MANY MORE STUDENTS WE CAN PUT IN THERE WITHOUT JUST MAKING THINGS, TITUS, SARDINES.
UM, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO Y'ALL AND BRING THAT STUFF TO WHEN WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND ARE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE TOWN.
CAUSE I THINK THAT WAS VERY EYE OPENING FOR ME.
WELL, AND RACHEL, YOU KNOW WHAT DOESN'T SHOW THERE IS WHAT THE COUNTY IS ALLOTTING.
YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GO NORTH ON, UM, ONE 70 AND THAT WHOLE AREA AROUND OTA.
SO THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE TOWNS APPROVALS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS COVID, I THINK WE ALL REALIZED, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT CHILDREN AND LISTENING CAN, LITTLE, LITTLE ONES NEED TO MEET LITTLE ONES, NEED TO COME TO SCHOOL, BUT SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT MIGHT BE YOUR SAVING GRACE.
YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A HYBRID WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OLDER KIDS, BUT, UM, I THINK A SAVING GRACE IS CHRISTIAN ACADEMY COME IN AND RELIEVE IN SOME OF THE GROWTH.
JOHN PAUL TWOS HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO RELIEVE SOME CROSSES STARTING IN NINTH GRADE THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALMOST TO ME A WELCOME TO FIGURING THIS OUT.
SO ANYWAY, DID I ASK YOU A QUESTION, COLONEL? I HOPE I DID, YES.
AND IF, IF I COULD TO JUST ADD, CAUSE I'M FROM NOW FROM THE NEXT 18 MONTHS, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AT EVERY MEETING I HA NEED AT AND TALK TO YOU.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REWRITING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SO THAT IS OUR, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 20 YEAR ROADMAP FOR BLUFFTON AND THE AREA.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING REALLY DEEP AND ALL OF THIS, UM, THE RESEARCH AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WOULD LOVE, YOU KNOW, TO INVOLVE Y'ALL.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A FOCUS GROUP WE'RE JUST RIGHT NOW SETTING UP, UM, WITH OUR CONSULTANT, SETTING UP FOCUS GROUPS AND STEERING COMMITTEES.
AND I KNOW THERE'S AN EDUCATION, UM, COMMITTEE AND GROUP THAT WERE WE TO WHERE WE'RE WORKING WITH SO THAT WE GET INPUT DIRECTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM YOU ALL AS REPRESENTATIVES AND JUST THE SCHOOL AND THE
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MORE PUBLIC INPUT WE HAVE AND WHY I'M GOING TO SAY THAT EVERY MEETING I TALKED TO, THE MORE PUBLIC INPUT WE HAVE, THE BETTER PLAN WE'LL HAVE.SO, UM, AT LEAST THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.
SO EITHER JUST KIND OF BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT, AND WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU AND PLEASE COME TO US.
BUT LIKE I SAID, JUST SO WE CAN, CAUSE WE USE THAT FOR ANNEXATION REQUESTS, ZONINGS DECISIONS, POLICY DECISIONS.
SO THAT'S REALLY, REALLY VALUABLE TOOL AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN AND FEEDBACK FROM, FROM YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE.
THEY'RE GOOD TOO, AT THESE SCOUTS, I KNOW STAFF'S ON SURE.
OF COURSE I GOT AN INVITATION FROM CHARLOTTE TO ATTEND A MEETING.
AND I ALSO THINK HE, SHE WAS INVITING DR.
RODRIGUEZ AND HE, HE MAY ATTEND OR HE MAY DELEGATE THAT.
SO I KNOW PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE ARE ALREADY INVOLVED.
AND LIKE, SO WE HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE, FOCUS GROUPS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF, UM, INTERACTIVE, YOU KNOW, INTERACTIVE SURVEYS AND QUESTIONS.
AND THE MORE WE CAN PUSH THAT OUT TO THE MORE PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE, THE BETTER.
AND IT'S EVERYBODY NOT JUST ACCOUNTABLE.
OFTEN RESIDENTS NOT JUST BE FOR CARING, JUST, YOU KNOW, THE REGION WE WANT AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE.
SO I SEE WE HAVE A, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER WITH US.
MR. SMITH HAS HIS HAND RAISED.
YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS FOR THE, THE MAYOR, UH, I WAS WONDERING AT SOME POINT, ARE Y'ALL GOING TO CAP ALL THESE, UH, THE MOVEMENT THAT Y'ALL HAVE IN COMING, UH, IN THE BUILDING OR ARE Y'ALL ALL WE JUST GOING TO LET PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BUILD OR IS THERE, UH, IS THERE A NUMBER WHERE WE WANT TO CAPTURE NEW AREAS? UM, THANK YOU, WILLIAM.
AND IT WAS GOOD SEEING YOU THIS WEEK AT THE GOLF TOURNAMENT.
THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU GOT ON, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
SO THERE WERE 94 OR 96% ALREADY MASTER PLAN.
UM, WE HAVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT A MORATORIUM.
UM, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WAYS TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR ORDINANCES TO SOMEWHAT MANAGING SLOW IT IN A WAY, JUST A FEW MORE APPROVALS IN THE PROCESS.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON BUYING UNITS THAT COULD GO AWAY INDEFINITELY.
SO WE'VE NEVER HAD REALLY A CAP.
I, MAYBE A QUESTION IS IN HEATHER CAN RESEARCH IT IN THE PAST IN 2005 AND SIX, WE, WE PHASED A LOT AND I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THE EDUCATE BOARD OF EDUCATION ON THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ROBERT SAID, OOH, BUT YOU KNOW, IS IT WOU IF IT'S OVER A LONGER TIME AND COULD WE LOOK AT PHASING, ESPECIALLY, AND WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL, CAN'T SHOW FAVORITISM ON ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IN AREAS MAYBE OVERALL, BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO FALL TO IT.
LIKE I SAID, PALMETTO BLUFF IS PHASED THEIR 40 YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT HOW DO YOU PHASE IN, UH, AND AUSTIN PARK OR, UM, CYPRESS RIDGE OR BLUFFTON PARK, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD WE PHASE THAT IN A WAY TO HELP AT LEAST Y'ALL TO FIGURE OUT THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ALL WORKING FAST AND WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON IT, BUT TO HAVE A PLAN.
AND HEATHER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE STILL DO THAT OR NOT SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT NOT, NOT REALLY.
UM, WHAT WE DO IS IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW AS IF THIS WAS THE CASE IN 2005, BUT I DID WRITE A NOTE AND SAID TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT IT AND RESEARCH IT IS IF THERE'S AVAILABLE WATER AND SEWER AND THE UTILITIES, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SERVE IT, THEN WE ULTIMATELY WILL IMPROVE IT.
SO IN SOME PLACES I'VE WORKED IN, IN PAST LIVES, SOMETIMES THAT'S USUALLY WHAT HELPS PHASE THINGS IN, AND THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE SEWER COMES, YOU CAN'T BUILD THE HOUSES OR UNTIL THE WATER COMES.
BUT IF IT'S, IF THIS SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, THEN WE, UM, THE WAY WE DO IT NOW, THE WAY THE CODES ARE WRITTEN NOW IS WE DO APPROVE IT.
AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PHASING WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER ORDINANCE CHANGES AS WE MOVE ON, BUT THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S THE CONVERSATION CAUSE WE DO.
I REMEMBER ONLY REALLY ONLY ONE TIME SOMEONE'S GONE AGAINST OUR REQUEST AND CAROL, YOU WERE PART OF IT.
SO I REMEMBER I WAS TELLING YOU, GO GIRL, YOU STOOD UP AND SAID, WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT TEACH THESE KIDS.
YOU KNOW, NOT IN THAT WAY, BUT YOU WERE VERY FOCUSED ON THE LIMITS TO THE SCHOOLS AND WE FROM YOU WOULD NEED MAYBE THAT LETTER, YOU KNOW, YES, WE UNDERSTAND THEY CAN BUILD IT, BUT PUT IT IN YOUR LETTER.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR, TO ACCOMMODATE THIS ON A PHASED BASIS, BUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THE MEAT OF THAT LETTER.
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AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK WITH OUR UTILITIES AS WELL, IF IT BECOMES A HEARTACHE AND YOU PHILLY REALLY FEEL THAT LEVEL OF WHERE WE WERE A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, THE MORE YOU CAN HELP US, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE, YOU'VE GOT A COUNCIL THAT'S VERY WILLING TO SLOW, BUT WE NEED SOME SUPPORT FROM ALL THOSE GROUPS THAT HEATHER SAYS HAVE TO WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT.AM I RIGHT? HEATHER? MY HIDDEN.
SOME OF THE GROWTH AREAS VERSUS THE FASTEST LARGEST COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, IT DOES AFFECT HOW YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT.
WELL, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER, BUT WE'RE NOT CAPPING.
THERE'S NO CAP TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY APPROVED.
LET'S SAY MAYOR SOCKEYE, APPRECIATE YOU NOTICED, UH, THE, UM, WHEN WE WERE CONCERNED THAT WE DID SPEAK UP AND THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND ACTUALLY SINCE THE REFERENDUM PASSED WEEK, STOP THAT I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, BECAUSE AFTER THAT, WE GOT THE ADDITIONS AT RIVER RIDGE AND, AND MAY RIVER.
AND THAT HELPED US, UM, WHERE WE NO LONGER FELT THAT INTENSE PRESSURE.
AND OF COURSE NOW WE'VE HAD COVID AND SO THAT HAS SHOWN SOME NUMBERS THAT HAVE BACKED OFF.
AND SO THAT PRESSURE'S RELEASED NOW, WHAT I AM SAYING THAT IS, IF EVERYTHING BOUNCES BACK FROM PRE COVID, THAT PRESSURE IS GOING TO COME REAL QUICK AGAIN.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT ON TOP OF US.
UH, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE'RE FEELING THAT LIKE WE DID PRE REFERENDUM AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF WE'RE BACK AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT FOR THE MOST PART, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE THE KIDS THAT ARE COMING IN AND WE NEED THAT IN A LETTER, ROBERT, IT CAN'T JUST GET A PUBLIC COMMENT IT'S GOTTEN TO BE.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER GOT IT FORMALLY AND IT, YOU KNOW, EVERY, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES SAY WE, WE HAVE TO SERVE WHATEVER.
LET'S ALL REALLY STATE OUR CONCERNS.
SO JUST MAKE SURE IT'S IN A LETTER FORMAT BECAUSE THAT PAYS A LOT OF WEIGHT TO HEATHER, TO STAFF.
AND IT PAYS A LOT OF WEIGHT TO COUNSEL.
I'LL TELL YOU NEXT YEAR, WE MAY NEED TO TALK RIGHT AFTER WE GET SOME OF OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, BECAUSE THAT'S, WHEN WE'LL KNOW HOW MUCH COMES BOUNCES BACK FROM COVID HOW FAST IT'S COMING BACK.
AND WE NEED TO MEET MORE THAN NOW.
I MEAN, I THINK PICK UP THE PHONE, YOU HEATHER'S GREAT IF I'M NOT THERE OR SHE'S NOT THERE, WE'LL FIND EACH OTHER TO CHAT.
SO MORE OF THESE MEETINGS, THE BETTER, RIGHT? I AGREE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AGREE WITH ROBERT THAT A YEAR FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD THE ADDITION TO RIVER RIDGE AND MAY RIVER SO QUICKLY IS BECAUSE WE INVESTED IN THE DESIGN WORK.
SO AS SOON AS THE REFERENDUM PASSED, WE COULD BREAK GROUND AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THAT FOR THIS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHY ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET YOUR GROWTH FIGURES ALL DONE AND, AND YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH DEVELOPERS AND WE LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF ENROLLMENT WE'VE BOUNCED BACK FROM, FROM COVID.
WE, WE REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO OUR BOARD AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE WE NEED A SCHOOL.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED 8% MONEY TO BORROW TILL WE CAN GET IT READY, SHOVEL READY.
SO, AND ALSO TELLS THE VOTERS WHEN WE GO FOR ANOTHER REFERENDUM THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PIE IN THE SKY IN THIS, THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE'VE GOT HARD DATA.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE REFERENDUM PASSED THIS TIME IS WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND WE'RE PROVEN THAT WE'RE GETTING IT ON TIME AND ON BUDGET.
SO MAYBE PASSING THE NEXT REFERENDUM, WON'T BE AS CHALLENGING AS, AS THIS LAST ONE WAS.
WE'RE AT THE RIGHT TIME TO START TALKING TOGETHER ABOUT
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THIS AND SEE HOW IT GROWS.AND OVER THE NEXT YEAR POST COVID.
THIS IS A HARD YEAR TO EVEN KNOW.
YOU DON'T KNOW, WHO'S NOT COMING BACK, WHO MOVED TO WHATEVER.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION OR RACHEL, DO YOU WANT TO ASK ALL YOUR BOARD, YOU ALL HAVE UPDATED NUMBERS, LIKE TRUED NUMBERS THAT Y'ALL DUG DEEP INTO, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE IN EACH SCHOOL IS, BUT MAYBE IT'S THE HOSPITALS.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR STRESS POINTS ARE.
IF IT'S ELEMENTARY OR HIGH OR MIDDLE 10-YEAR PLAN, ROBERT, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THAT THE MOST CURRENT, UM, NO PROBLEM THERE.
WE'LL GET YOU ONE OF THOSE BOOKS.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, EACH SCHOOL BROKEN DOWN AND, UH, WE ALSO DID A SURVEY OF PARENTS WHO, UM, LEFT THE SYSTEM DURING COVID TO TRY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHO MIGHT BE RETURNING.
UM, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THAT DATA AVAILABLE, BUT STILL NOT CLEAR WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE OBVIOUSLY NEXT YEAR.
UM, SOME DID SAY AND INDICATE THAT THEY WERE COMING BACK, BUT THAT'S ONLY BASED ON THOSE THAT RESPONDED.
SO, UM, THAT INFORMATION GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA, BUT STILL NOT VERY, NOT A FULL CIRCLE.
UM, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT KIND OF IN REGARD TO THE PLANNING AND WHATNOT, AND ALSO ASK A QUESTION.
UM, BACK WHEN WE DID OUR EARLY IDENTIFICATION OF THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT, THERE WAS A, A LIST THAT WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST REFERENDUM WAS PARSED DOWN BASED ON THE MOST PRESSING AND URGENT NEEDS.
SO WE STILL HAVE THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE INITIALLY IDENTIFIED AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEW SCHOOLS THAT NEED TO COME TO BLUFFTON.
SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON AND WORKING WITH YOUR CONSULTANT, WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE LOOK LIKE FOR, UM, A FINALIZED PRODUCT? THE TIMELINE IS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE IN THE INFORMATION GATHERING STAGE OF THE PROJECT.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT IS COMPLETE, MEANING IT'S ALREADY GONE TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BY JUNE OF 2022.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY I FELT LIKE THAT, UM, THAT DOCUMENT WHAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY NOT, BUT MAYBE SO IT LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, NEEDS THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN THEIR OBJECTIVES THAT ALSO HAVE TIMELINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY, WE, UM, WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THAT PLAN AND WE DO THAT.
THAT'S INCORPORATED IN TOWN COUNCIL, STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
SO IF THERE ARE NEW SCHOOLS THAT ARE NEEDED OR EXPANDED SCHOOLS, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, IS, IS VERY HELPFUL.
I THINK MOVING FORWARD AS AT LEAST TOWN STAFF WHO REVIEWS PROJECTS OR BRINGS POLICIES, UM, FOR TOWN COUNCILS CONSIDERATION, IF IT'S CONTAINED WITHIN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT JUST, UM, IT, IT HELPS FACILITATE THAT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE ALL THAT ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL BEEN SPELLED OUT IN THERE, BUT ACTUALLY THE REVIEW PROCESS, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A 12 MONTH PREPARATION PROCESS.
AND THEN THERE'S AGAIN, THE PUBLIC PROCESS OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL, BUT IT WILL, WE'RE PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETE AND ANTICIPATE IT TO BE COMPLETE JUNE 20, 22.
RIGHT NOW I JUST HAVE ROBERT'S HANNAH'S STILL UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE STOOD UP OR THERE WE GO DID NOT TO ADD ON YOUR PERFECT.
WE PUT A GROUP AND I'M FINE TO DO IT.
IF YOU GO THROUGH IT WITH ME TO DO A PRESENTATION TO THE FULL BOARD AT SOME POINT DURING OUR WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE EVERY CHAPTER, BUT MAYBE THEY DO NEED TO SEE HOUSING EDUCATION.
I WOULD SAY, YEAH, MOST CERTAINLY PROBABLY A HOUSING UNIT.
THERE'S THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES, WHICH IS, I MEAN, THE SCHOOLS ARE A PART OF THAT, THE SUB CHAPTER OF THAT.
SO TO SPEAK THAT MAYBE EVEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR POPULATION, BUT IT MO MOST CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID, THAT THE COMP PLAN, I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S IMPORTANT.
THE COMP PLANS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERYTHING KIND OF FILTERS DOWN.
SO, UM, AND THIS MAY BE THE LAB, WELL, IT'S EVERY 10 YEARS, SO MAYBE ONE MORE LEFT THAN ME, BUT 2010, WHATEVER, SEVEN OR 10, I FORGET OUR LAST ONE.
CAUSE IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR THEM TO SEE.
DID WE ABIDE BY IT? YOU KNOW, HOW DID WE DO IT? CAUSE I HAD ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT IS OUR BIBLE AND WE DON'T JUST STICK IT ON A SHELF.
SO MAYBE SEND THEM THE RECENT ONE AND THEY'LL AT LEAST THEY'LL KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE'RE BECAUSE THEY GO THROUGH IT TOO.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KEEP LIKE SEND THAT CHART OF, HAVE WE COMPLETED IT? YES OR NO.
UM, SO IT'S, IT WILL BE HELPFUL.
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AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ACTUALLY USE IT AND THEN MAYBE HOW WE CAN PREPARE TO USE IT IN THE NEXT SO MANY YEARS, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT, THOSE LINKS THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL YEAH.TO SEE HOW WE CAN ASSIST YOU GUYS.
UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH YOU ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND US ALL COMING TOGETHER AND WORKING TOGETHER AS PARTNERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STRONG SCHOOLS MAKE STRONG COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES AND, YOU KNOW, HELPS ALL OF US.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENT WE NEED TO, TO MEET, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, HOW OFTEN DO WE COME TOGETHER? WHEN DO WE GET TOGETHER? LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT MAPS, UM, I CAN CERTAINLY SEND AN EMAIL FOLLOW UP AND JUST KIND OF CHECK, HAVE EVERYBODY SEND ME THEIR AVAILABILITY, IF THAT'S EASIER.
WE W YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE MEETING WHERE WE DID NOT PASS OUR EXTENSION OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.
AND WE ALSO DID NOT PASS OUR MASK, ANY MASK ORDINANCE.
SO WE OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC MAY SOMETHING THIRD.
UM, SO, AND I HAD A LAW, UH, SET BY DR.
RODRIGUEZ TODAY AT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RETREAT.
UM, AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE IN A HARD PLACE, WHICH I THINK IT FALLS ON HIM.
I THINK HE'S AT A HARD PLACE, UM, BECAUSE THE WHOLE COUNTY, BUT THEN NOT EVERY TOWN HAS DONE THIS, SO WE CAN ADD LIKE MEETING IN PERSON.
AND I WAS VERY COMFORTABLE TODAY, UM, MEETING IN PERSON AND I'M FINE.
GET AT A TABLE AND SPREAD A MAP OUT AFTER SCOTT OPENS TOWN HALL AGAIN.
I WANT TO BE, UM, I REALLY WANT TO HAVE THAT RESPECT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S WISHES, BUT I'M FINE WITH IT.
WELL, I'LL, UM, THEN I'LL JUST SHOOT OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY AND KIND OF SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING ON THE CALENDAR.
UM, WE TYPICALLY MEET, UH, THE THIRD THURSDAY, IS THAT CORRECT DECK, UM, OF EVERY MONTH.
SO CERTAINLY YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US AT ANY TIME, OR IF YOU WANT TO GET ON AN AGENDA ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC TOPIC, I'M HAPPY TO PUT IT ON.
SO, UM, DICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, NO.
UH, I STILL HOPE WE CAN TALK TO, TO THE REALTOR GROUP, UH, GET TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM BECAUSE, UH, JUST MARKET KNOWLEDGE, MORE MARKET KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE BETTER OUR PLANS WILL BE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I'M GOING TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON, ON THE SURVEY, UM, NEXT MEETING, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO EMAIL, UM, THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION AND ASK THEM, UH, FOR DATES AND WHATNOT? I KNOW THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN DISTRIBUTING THE SURVEY DOCUMENT, BUT RIGHT.
BUT MAYBE THEY WILL TALK TO US FACE TO FACE AND, AND YOU KNOW, BASIS AND NON-COMPETITIVE BASIS JUST TO LET US KNOW WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF CONTEXT THEY'RE GETTING, WHO'S ASKING FOR INFORMATION.
UM, AND AGAIN, PRICE RANGES AND SO ON.
SO WE CAN START TO ANTICIPATE WHAT KIND OF STUDENTS WE CAN EXPECT.
UH, WHEN I THINK WE CAN ALL TODAY TELL YOU OVER THE LAST YEAR, A PERCENTAGE OF EIGHT AND KNOW WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT REDLINING, STREAMLINING ALL THOSE ETHICAL THINGS.
BUT, UM, LIKE I COULD TELL YOU TODAY, I HAVEN'T HAD A FAMILY IN MY CAR IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
MOST OF MY BUYERS ARE 50 AND ABOVE KIDS JUST THEY'RE WAITING UNTIL THEIR CHILD GRADUATES TO GO TO COLLEGE.
UM, THAT'S JUST ME BLUFFTON, BUT ANOTHER AREA TO LOOK AT IS LOOKING AT YOUR DEVELOPMENTS, GO TO, UM, NATE, KAREN IT, CYPRESS RIDGE.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE CONTEXT, GO TO THE DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS CONNECTED TO A REALTOR AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE MORE LENIENT.
THEY COULD TELL YOU A RANGE OF WHO'S BUYING IF IT'S OVER 50 OR UNDER 50.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED, I'VE BEEN HERE 13 YEARS AND WATCHED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THESE HIGHER END COMMUNITIES ARE KIND OF THE LEADING INDICATOR FOR FUTURE GROWTH BECAUSE PEOPLE COME IN AND THEN THE SERVICE PROVIDERS COME IN AFTERWARDS TO GIVE THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE NOW ASKING FOR.
MORE OF AT NEW PEOPLE COMING IN AND I'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENT KIND OF START THAT WAY.
SO THAT ALSO KIND OF GIVES US MORE OF A STRATEGIC VIEW.
OKAY, WE'RE GETTING THESE KINDS OF POPULATIONS IN.
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THE CARS AND BEING THE CHEFS IN THE RESTAURANT AND SO ON.AND THAT'S, WHO'S MOVING IN IN OUR AREA RIGHT NOW.
IT'S COMING FROM THE GATED COMMUNITIES IN THE BUFORD AREA THAT ARE STILL GROWING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THEM ARE GROWING QUITE A BIT RIGHT NOW.
WELL THAT YOU JUST MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE GO, AND AGAIN, WE CAN GET YOU THIS CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, RENTAL COMPANIES, APARTMENT COMPANIES, WE HAVE FIVE THAT DO THEIR OWN RENTALS.
UM, YOU CAN ASK THE DEVELOPERS THE PERCENTAGE OF TWO STORY HOUSES VERSUS ONE THAT COULD GIVE YOU A BET.
I JUST KNOW HOW CAREFUL WE HAVE TO BE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I TAKE CLIENTS AROUND ON SITE, JUST LOOK AT THE SIZE OF HOUSES.
IF IT FITS YOUR LIFESTYLE, YOU KNOW, THEN, YOU KNOW, PRETTY QUICKLY THEY, THEY ARE BRINGING A FAMILY WITH THEM.
UM, BUT THE RENTAL, THE RENTAL COMPANIES AND THE APARTMENT COMPANIES WILL GET PROBABLY GIVE YOU WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL CAN FIGURE OUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THOSE ARE, I JUST TOOK SOME NOTES THERE AT THE END ABOUT WITH DIFFERENT AREAS AND PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.
UM, COVID KIND OF THREW THIS COMMITTEE FOR A LOOP.
UM, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE HAD A MORE, YOU KNOW, UM, COMPREHENSIVE THING TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT, UM, WE'RE STILL GONNA WORK HARD AND WORK WITH YOU ALL TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE PROVIDE THE BEST EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO STUDENTS IN BLUFFTON AND THE DISTRICT AT LARGE, BUT WE DO IT IN A, IN A GREAT WAY FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, UM, DICK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY, THANK Y'ALL HAVING A WONDERFUL EVENING.
GOOD NIGHT, HEATHER, MAKE SURE YOU GET ON THAT, THAT DEEPER DIVE ON NUMBERS AND COMMUNITIES.
THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP HER IN HER PRESENTATION.
VERY GOOD POINT WITH THE, UM, THE AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I LIKE THIS, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO BE ON A ZOOM MEETING EVER AGAIN.
WAS, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU CREATED THROUGH? THIS IS, UM, BOARD DOCS.
EVERYBODY CLICKS THEIR VOTE OR YOU COUNT IT.
YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN CLICK YOUR VOTE OR SHE CAN DO IT.
WELL, I HOPE YOU NEVER NEED THAT AGAIN, BUT HEATHER THAT'S COOL.
I MAY ASK KIM, CAUSE NOW WE USE A NEW MUNI CODE SOFTWARE FOR OUR AGENDAS.
I WONDER IF IT CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT WE'LL FIND OUT, WRITE THAT DOWN FOR DUCKS.
I WILL SEND CAROL AND ROBERT ALL THAT INFORMATION AND LET THEM OKAY.