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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY COUNTY.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

UH, MR. LAWSON, CAN YOU HEAR US? AND MR. CAN YOU HEAR US CLEARLY? ARE WE MEETING? WE WEREN'T? I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY.

AGAIN, MR. LAWSON AND MR. HARVEY, SEAN, CAN YOU HEAR US RIGHT? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, TODAY WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO, UH, HAVE THE ANSWERS THAT WERE RESPONDED OR THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RESPONDED TO BY THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW TEAM.

WHEN THE TWO 78 QUARTER PROJECT WAS PUT INTO PLACE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW, WHICH WAS CONDUCTED COUNCIL ACCEPTED THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW AND HAD IT SENT ON TO S C D O T S C D O T HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT INDEPENDENT REVIEW AND HAS RESPONDED AND WILL PUBLICLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR US.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO S C D O T FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING, GENTLEMEN, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, I HAVE ERIC BURGESS, THE CASE GUIDANCE CASE, NOT DOT'S PROJECT MANAGER, AND THEY'RE THE LEAD CONSULTANT FOR A LITTLE PROJECT.

AND PHIL REASOR'S THE DEPUTY PM FOR THE CONSULTANT EXCELLENCE.

WE'VE GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE RESPONSES TO EACH OF THEM, AND THEN HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WELL.

HMM, WAIT, OH, THE POWERPOINT.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.

WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WAS TO UTILIZE TWO PHASE SIGNALS THROUGHOUT THE FOUR.

UM, SO THEY, THE MAJORITY OF MOVEMENTS REQUIRED 90% OF THE SIGNAL, TIME TO BE GREED, UM, ADDITIONAL PHASES, UH, REDUCE THE AVAILABLE GREEN TIME TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF YET OUT OF GREEN, YELLOW, AND RED FOR SAFETY OF THE OTHER MOVEMENTS.

UM, EACH INITIAL PHASE WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 13 SECONDS TO FULLY SERVE THE MOVEMENT.

SO BASICALLY 180 SECOND CYCLE WOULD BE IDEAL TO MINIMIZE DELAYS FOR ALL MOVEMENTS.

UM, 160 OF THOSE SECONDS WOULD HAVE TO BE DEDICATED, LEAVING ONLY 20 SECONDS FOR ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS.

UM, IF ONE WERE MORE PHASE WAS LOUDER OR WIRED MINIMUM TIME WHEN SEE THE 22ND MAXIMUM THRESHOLD IMPACT THE ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED TWO 78.

AND I'LL ADD TO THAT.

THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE SEC.

SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE, WELL UNDERSTANDING.

UM, SO BASICALLY WE ARE MAXIMIZING THE TWO PHASE SINGLE TO THE GREATEST EXTENT THROUGHOUT THE WELL THROUGH THE CORRIDOR.

UM, WE HAVE TWO EXTENSIVE EVALUATION INTERSECTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE TWO 78 ALTERNATIVE INTERSECTIONALITY BETWEEN SQUAD POPE ROAD AND WALMART'S ROAD, SPANISH FALLS ROAD.

UM, THOSE ARE A PART OF THE EA DOCUMENT THAT WE SIGNED BY FEDERAL HIGHWAYS PRIOR TO US MOVING TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS ALTERNATIVE INTERSECTS ANALYSIS ALONG JENKINS ISLAND.

THAT WAS REVISED.

BOTH OF THOSE WERE REVISED IN LATE JANUARY AND FINALIZED.

AND EACH OF THOSE ARE PART OF THE EA DOCUMENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE INTERSECTIONS BETWEEN THESE FIRE PUMP ROAD AND WILD HORSE SPACE WALTZ.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS DIFF DIVERT THE LEFT TURN FROM SQUIRE POPE ROAD AND SPANISH WALLS ROAD TO A NEW SINGLE OLD WILD HORSE ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE THESE TOURNAMENTS.

MIKE IS SOLVING HE'S LEFT HER NEWS AT ONE POINT EACH TRAFFIC SIGNAL FUNCTIONS AS A TWO-PHASE SYMBOL PROVIDING A MAXIMUM GREEN TIME

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ON TWO 78.

YES.

UM, SO THE NEXT ONE WAS THE INTERSECTION AT JENKINS ISLANDS.

SO WE DID A DIGITAL ANALYSIS AND LOOKED AT MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES FOR THIS EXERCISE, SO THAT THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE FOR THIS ONE IS A FULL ACCESS SIGNAL, WHICH IN THE END HAS THREE PHASES.

SO THERE'D BE THE PHASES FOR MAINLINE TO 78.

THERE'D BE A LEFT-HAND TURN INTO EIGHT LANE DRIVE.

UM, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A SIDE STREETS OR C C HUNDRED CIRCLE AND GATEWAY DRIVE FUNCTIONING AS THE THIRD, UM, THE THIRD PHASE, THAT SIGNAL.

SO WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAN FOR FUTURE SIDEWALKS AND THE SHARED USE PATH CROSSINGS AT THAT LOCATION.

UM, WE WANT TO PROVIDE A BUILDING ALTERNATIVES FOR USERS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT DOES PREVENT IT CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, WAYS OF SAFETY COST TWO 78.

WE DIDN'T LOOK THE SUPER STREET CONCEPT, BUT THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE SAFE COSTINGS.

UM, WELL, THE NEXT ONE IS THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO LIMIT THE CONFLICT POINTS AT INTERSECTIONS.

LIMITING THE NUMBER OF CONFLICTS REDUCES THE CHANCE OF THEIR CONDITIONS.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE INNER SITES AND TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SAFETY AND REDUCE THE SIGNALS TO INCLUDE POTENTIAL U TURNS TO PHASE SIGNALS AND FRANTICALLY.

SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO REDUCE THE CONFLICT POINTS THROUGHOUT THE COURTROOM.

SO WE HAVE PROPOSED A NEW ROAD THAT CONNECTS FROM JACOB'S ROAD AND GATEWAY DRIVE C A HUNDRED CIRCLE TO SIGNAL TO US TO 70 AN ACCESS POINT.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A NEW FRONTAGE ROAD CONNECTION FROM HOG ISLAND TO SEE HEINRICH CIRCLE SO THAT THE EXISTING BRUNER POINT ROAD AND WOULD ENTIRELY GO AWAY.

AND THE CHATTER THAT CURRENTLY GOES TO THERE WOULD BE DIVERTED OUT TO SEE HYDRATE CIRCLE WITH THE PORTAGE ACROSS THE NESTLE EXISTING PURCHASE.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO RENEW AND THEN JENKINS ISLAND ROAD OR JENKINS ROAD BECOMES A ONE LANE ROAD IN ALL OF THIS.

SO YOU CAN ONLY HAVE YOUR HEAD WESTBOUND OFF ISLAND.

YOU'D BE ABLE TO TURN RIGHT IN, BUT ALL THE OUTBOUND MOVEMENTS WOULD RUN THROUGH THE ONE, ONE SINGLE LOCATION.

SO WHY WOULD WE REDUCE THE CONFLICT MOVEMENTS AT EACH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, AS WELL AS ELIMINATE THE CONFLICT MOVEMENTS, ADD SOME OF THE CONFLICT MOVEMENTS AT SQUAR PUMP ROAD AND SPANISH WILLS ROAD.

UM, SO WE'RE RESTRICTING THOSE LEFT TURNS TO INTERSECTS WITH SADDLE SOONER PROTECTED YOU TURN MOVEMENT FOR THE LEFT-HAND TURN.

SO THAT LEFT HAND TURN COMES TO PROTECTED.

SO PEOPLE CAN CROSS THERE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE CONFLICT OF NEW ITS APPEAL TRYING TO TURN AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

THE NEXT ONE IS PROBABLY THE MAIN POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDING COSTS LEVEL OF SERVICE AND TRAVEL TIME.

SO IT'S RUN COST LICENSE FOR ALL THESE ALTERNATIVES AND INTERSECTION CONCEPTS AND FIVE LEVEL SERVICE AT EACH INTERSECTION AND PERFORMER, WHOLE COURT ARTERIAL CHILD TIME AND HOUSE TERM IMPACT WITH TIME ON THE TRAVELING PUBLIC FROM BLUFFTON PARKWAY.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE EVALUATION CRITERIA AND UNDERSTAND THE COSTS.

SO PROJECT COSTS IS ONE OF THE FINAL EVALUATION CRITERIA IS OF THE ALTERNATIVES, HOW THEY'RE BEING EVALUATED AS WELL AS 14 OTHER CRITERIA.

SO IT IS JUST ONE PART OF THAT ANALYSIS, BUT, UM, SO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THAT'S PART OF THE EA REIGN FROM 218 MILLION TO 356 MINUTES.

UM, AND THE DETAILS OF EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL ALTERNATIVES WILL BE RELEASED AS PART OF THE EA DOCUMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER WAYS CRITERIA FOR THE REASONABLE TERM USE.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE UNDERSTANDING THE COST OF THE INTERSECTION ALTERNATIVES.

SO PREVIOUSLY WE ARE INCLUDED THIS SLIDE PRESENTATIONS TO EACH OF THE COUNCILS, AS WELL AS, UM, TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE INTERSECTION TRAFFIC EMISSIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, INITIALLY WE HAD, IT WAS EITHER A GREEN, YELLOW, OR RED FOR NEW TRAVEL POWDER RIDER, ACQUISITION VIEW, OBSTRUCTIONS, AND COSTS, AND ALSO INCLUDING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO WE EVALUATED 14 ALTERNATIVES, WALLACE, AND SOME ADDITIONAL ONES, BUT THE DLT DEVELOPED ALTARS WHERE THERE WERE 14.

INITIALLY THOSE WERE REDUCED DOWN TO FOUR, WHICH WAS THE JUG HANDLE, THE FLY OVER, UM, THE OPTIMIZING LANES AND THE SIGNAL WALTERS.

UM, AND SO IN DOING THAT, UM, WE, WE ANALYZED EACH OF THESE USING A SYNCHRO SOFTWARE TO CALCULATE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THE FOLLOWING TABLE, THE TABLE PROVIDES A LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE FOR THE CHUG HANDLE, AND YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE IN SPANISH ROLLS

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ROOM FOR THE FLYOVER, YOU GET ONE MORE SERVICE C AND D ADMINISTRATOR'S ROLE TRUE FOR THE OPTIMIZING LANE, BOTH INTERSECTIONS OPERATE AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THESE ARE THE OPTIMIZED LANES WOULD BE THE ONE THAT HAS THE AS HARDCORE ROAD.

IT WOULD HAVE DUAL LEFT-HAND TURN LANES.

IT WOULD HAVE ALL THE ACCELERATION LANES, DECENT LANES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THAT SIGNAL TO OPERATE BY.

SO OPERATES A LEVEL OF SERVICE AND FOR THE SIGNAL OF OH, WILD HORSE ROAD, IT SHOWS A LEVEL OF SERVICE VC AND SEE, SO THAT'S AN INTERSECTION ANALYSIS AND WE ALSO DO SOME TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THEN WE'LL SHOW, UM, ADDITIONAL TRAVEL TIME AND WHERE THOSE THAT'S COMING UP HERE IN A SECOND.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH, SO, SORRY, LET ME GET BACK TO YOU.

SO THE CHUG HANDLE AND THE FLY WHEEL WERE BOTH, UM, ELIMINATED DUE TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE WERE GETTING FROM THOSE AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, AND THEN THE NEW TRAVEL PATTERNS AND RIGHT AWAY.

BUT EACH OF THOSE WERE PRETTY EASY, CARED FOR IT, YOU KNOW, RECOGNITION FROM COMMUNITY IMPACT AND THEY WANT TO CARRY THEM FORWARD AS WELL THERE.

UM, SO, AND THEN, AND WE ARE NOT ANALYZING BETWEEN OCCUPIES LINES AND THE SIGNAL OF OLD WILD HORSE ROAD, A SIGNAL GAVE US THE BEST LEVEL OF SERVICE.

IT HAS NO RIDE REACTIONS.

IT HAS THE CHEAPEST COSTS AT 4.4 MILLION.

SO THAT 4.4 MILLION IS THE BROADWAY COSTS FROM THE CAUSEWAY TO SPANISH FALLS ROAD OR TO BASICALLY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF SPANISH ROAD AT THE TIME TO THE COUNSELING DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S FOR ALL IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY SO THAT WHEN WE EVALUATE THE COST AND WE KEPT IT THAT WAY SO THAT EACH OF YOU MORE EVALUATE EQUALLY FOR THEIR COSTS.

EXCELLENT.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS BREAKING OUT IN THE INTERSECTION COSTS.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ALTERNATIVE 10 B IS THE PREFERRED INTERSECTIONAL TERMS THAT CAN SOLVE CONSOLIDATES AGAIN, CONSOLIDATES THE LAST EXPIRE PUMP ROAD, AND SUPPOSE ROLE'S WROTE A WHOLE LONG HORSE ROAD.

SO AT OLD WILDHORSE ROAD, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING EASTBOUND, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN LEFT.

YOU HAVE DUAL LEFT HAND TURNS THE INSIGHT LIFE CAN MAKE A U-TURN AND GO BACK TO SQUARE POPE ROOM.

SO IT'S, CIPHERING THAT TRAVELING THROUGH THERE, BUT THE TRAVEL TIME IS ACTUALLY REDUCED MY DIVERTING THAT TRAFFIC THAT WAY, OR YOU CAN CONTINUE UP A WALRUS ROAD AND CONNECTING INTO LONG WARS.

SO LEFT TURNS ARE ELIMINATED AS FAR AS HOPE ROAD .

SO ALL THE TURNS OPERATE THROUGH ONE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHICH IS EITHER GREEN OR RED FOR MAINLINE TO SEVEN 80 AND THREE.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS THE SIM TRAFFIC MODELING.

SO THIS IS AN EVALUATED MEASURES OF EFFECTIVENESS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, TRAVEL TIME, TRAVEL SPEED, THE DELAY EASTER ACTION.

AND IT ALSO LOOKS AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, FOR EACH REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE, UM, AFRICAN SAY THE RIGHT WAY AND PACKS AGAIN, FLY OVER AND DRIVING IN A WHIRLWIND.

UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THE ONLY, SO THERE WERE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE WHOLE BALTIMORE SIGNALERS MOBILE CONCEPTS THAT ARE SO WORRIED THAT MOST EFFECTIVE ONE WAS CARRIED FORWARD.

UM, SO YOU JUST, YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TRAVEL TIME SPEEDS WITH THE OLD MODEL WHERE A SIGNAL AS A GREATER OR THE REDUCED TRAVEL TIME THROUGH THE CORRIDOR AND A GREATER SPEED AND BOTH, UM, BOTH EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND DIRECTION.

WE ALL IN QUESTIONS TILL THE END, JOE.

UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LARRY, JUST LET THEM GET THROUGH BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.

OKAY, THANKS.

SO THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT I THINK EVERYBODY'S BEEN ASKING ME FOR.

UM, IT WAS A BIG PART OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW AND THE POETS CONCERN, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM 2045, NO BILL FOR PITNEY ISLAND TO SPANISH WELLS ROAD.

THAT TRAVEL TIME WOULD BE 20 MINUTES.

YOU FOUND DIRECTION AND NINE MILES AN HOUR AND THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION OFF ISLAND AND GET IT.

THIS IS THE PMP.

SO THESE ARE PM HOURS.

UM, THE TRAVEL TIME IS 12.1 MINUTES, GETTING OFF THE ISLAND, 15.4 MILES AN HOUR.

UM, WITH THE OVERHEAD SIGNALS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT EASTBOUND ABOUT 4.9 MINUTES AND THE COWS THREE TO 40 MILES AN HOUR, AND THEN WESTBOUND IT'S 5.9 MINUTES AT 33.6 MILES AN HOUR.

SO THIS IS 2045 TRAFFIC WITH, WITH THE SIGNAL INSTALLATIONS THROUGH THERE, THE CAL TIME THROUGH THE ENTIRE CORE END-TO-END AND NO BILL IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION.

SO ALL THE HOT, I DON'T KNOW, DIRECTIONS, 30 MINUTES, 13 MINUTES, 13 MILES AN HOUR.

LET ME GO BACK TO THE TIMESCALE.

SO YOU HAVE A TIME SET IS THAT YOU, THE DIRECTION FROM 15 MINUTES AND HE'S FOUND DIRECTION IN SIX MINUTES AND THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION.

UM, SO FROM MOSS CREEK DOES FINANCIALS, WHICH IS INTERNAL 2045 IS OPERATING AT 30 MINUTES.

SO I'LL TAKE 30

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MINUTES AGO.

AND THEN, AND HE'S RUNNING DIRECTION AT 13 MILES AN HOUR IN THE WEST BROAD DIRECTION IS, UH, 51 AND A HALF MINUTES AND NINE MILES AN HOUR WITH ALL WILD HORSE SIGNAL.

YOU ARE WHO'S THE EASTBOUND.

UM, TOTAL TIME TO 10 MINUTES AT 30 MILES AN HOUR.

AND THE OFF-FARM IS 19 MINUTES AT 90 MILES AN HOUR THAT IS SHOWING SO THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION, THE, THE ADDITIONAL TRAVEL TIME AND THE TRAVEL SPEED, THAT'S BEEN THE INFLUENCE OF THE TRACTOR FOR BLOCKING IN THE SIGNAL.

ONCE YOU GET INTO BLUFFTON, THEY'RE STARTING TO BACK UP ON TWO 78, BACKING UP INTO THE MERGED CONDITION FOR THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, THOSE NEXT THREE OR FOUR SIGNALS IN THE BLUFFTON.

SO YOU'RE SEEING A TIME-SAVINGS EASTBOUND DIRECTIONAL ON AN ISLAND OF 20 MINUTES.

AND THEN, AND THAT IS SHOWING BASICALLY THAT THOSE SIGNALS ARE NOT HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE TRAVEL TIME.

IT'S ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE TRAVEL TIME THROUGH THAT WORK.

AND THEN IT'S 32 MINUTES IN THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION.

SO GETTING OFF ON 32 MINUTES UM, SO NEXT RECOMMENDATION WAS STANDARD FEDERAL ARISING IN THE COURSE OF YOUR MIND.

UM, SO WITH CURVING GUTTER BYPASS THE SIDEWALKS, UM, EARLY IN THE PROCESS, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO REDUCE THE TIRE WEAR OR SPEED LIMIT TO 40 MILE 45 MILES NOW, AND THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE DUTIES.

UM, THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION WAS BIKE IMPAIRED, AESTHETICS, CONNECTIVITY, AND SAFETY.

SO WAS TO INCLUDE FOUR ITEMS, COLORED CROSSWALKS LIKE BLUE USED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD LANDSCAPE MEDIUMS WITH LOW LANDSCAPING AFTERWARDS WITH AT LEAST EIGHT FOOT OF SEPARATION AND LOW LEVEL STREET PARKING.

SO TO INCLUDE THAT WORRY REAR AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSISTENT CROSSWALK COLORS, THERE'LL BE SIMILAR TO OTHER CROSSWALKS ON THE ISLAND.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE LANDSCAPE NEEDS OR FEASIBLE, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE WAY.

ONCE YOU GET ON TO HILLMAN ISLAND, THEIR LANDSCAPE MEDIANS, UM, BUMPER WIZARD TURNED BY DOD STANDARDS, DESIRES AND MINIMIZE PROPERTY IMPACTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

THEY AVERAGE OUT TO ABOUT SEVEN FOOT OR SEPARATION THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR.

I'M ALSO INCLUDING STREET LIGHT, THE ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, AND THEN THERE'LL BE DOWNWARD FACING GLIDING ON THE PEDESTRIAN PATH ON THE BRIDGE BASICALLY TO NOT, NOT IN FACT THAT HABITS HAVE A LOAD OF BRICKS.

UM, SO WE'RE ALSO EVALUATING GO BACK.

THE CROSSWALK AT CROSS STREET DRIVE IS ALSO BEING EVALUATED.

UM, THE LAND'S GOING TO BE IS, YOU KNOW, A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE ME THROUGH THE TIRE OR WITH MINIMAL BREAKS THROUGH IT.

UM, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL WITH THE COUNTY OF TOWN TO DETERMINE WAS WHAT DOES THAT LANDSCAPE LOOK LIKE? IS THERE A, ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROADWAY AS WELL TO SEPARATE THE MULTI-USE PATH ROADWAY? UM, THE, SO I GET SPOKE ON THE SEVEN FOOT SIDEWALK AND WE HAVE SIDEWALKS AND BOARDWALKS ARE PER POSE IN THE MORE URBAN SECTIONS IN THE CORNER.

NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS THE ROADWAY, CHARACTER, EASE THE BRAKES, THE RECOMMENDATION CHANGES AND LANDSCAPING LOUDY AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, AND THE STORAGE WOULD BE TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE STEAKS.

UM, SO THEY WANTED THAT TO BE PROVIDED BY THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TIMELINE OF THE TOWN.

SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND TOWN VISIT FOR A SEX AND CHARACTER, THE CORRIDOR, BUT WE DO HAVE INCLUDED IN THE EA MULTIPLE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE STUDY THAT ARE COMMITTED AS PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS INCLUDING SCIENCE TO THE MARKETING TO SAUDI COMMUNITY, TO INCLUDE MORE OF GATEWAY, FEEL TO THE COMMUNITY BASED ON THE BOUNDARY ESTABLISHED BY THE TRADITIONAL CULTURAL PROPERTY REPORT AND OPENAIR BILLION ON TOWN PROPERTY ON US, 78 AND SQUARE UP APPROACH INTERSECTION.

THIS WILL HIGHLIGHT THE HISTORY OF THE STUDY COMMUNITY AND OTHER COHEN NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE ISLAND, AS WELL AS BE A PLACE TO DISPLAY, UM, GULLAH ARTWORK, STATUES, UH, PAINTINGS, ET CETERA.

UM, BUT ALSO HAVE INTERACTIVE KIOSKS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT STONEY AND OTHER OR NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE NEXT ONE WAS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE THEME-BASED STREET AND MULTI-USE PATHWAY TO ASSAULT FLAGS AND SIGNS ON LINE POLES TO INDICATE.

SO PEOPLE KNOW THERE ARE WITHIN THE SONY COMMUNITY.

UM, THE LANDSCAPE OF YOU BELONG TO 78 WITHIN, UM, THE STONEY COMMUNITY SITTING ALONG THE MULTI-USE PATH.

AND THE LAST TIME THAT'S INVOLVED IN ONLINE INTERACTIVE MAP AND THE HISTORY OF STARTING COMMUNITY TO SHARE IMPORTANT HISTORICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE SIGNAGE, YOU MEAN GOING THROUGH HIS HAND HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

SO EACH OF THESE ITEMS ARE INCLUDED NDA DOCUMENT OR ARE LEGALLY BINDING THAT THEY HAVE TO BE PART OF THE PROJECTS.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE DECIDES THEY WOULD RATHER NOT DO SO.

THESE ARE COMMITMENTS THAT BASICALLY THE DOD IS MAKING AS PART OF THE YEAR, A DOCUMENT

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THAT HAS TO BE INCLUDED.

AND A LOT OF THAT CAME OUT OF SOME OF THESE WERE INITIALLY DEVELOPED WITH COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENTS OF MIND FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR IMPACTS, BUT THEN WHEN THAT THE TRADITIONAL CULTURAL POVERTY REPORT CAME OUT INDICATING THAT STARTING WAS A GATEWAY TO HILLMAN.

SO WE NEEDED TO BASICALLY PUT SIGNAGE UP THAT THAT CALLS THE HOUSE AND CAME RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT NOW, THERE WAS A LITTLE SCIENCE OUT THERE.

THESE SITES ARE BEING HANDED OFF FOUR OR FIVE TIMES LARGER THAN THAT.

THERE'LL BE BEING BRED WITH LANDSCAPING AROUND THEM.

THAT REALLY STANDS OUT AND PULSE.

YOU KNOW, THAT YOUR DOOR THROUGH STONE, INSTEAD OF JUST BEING A BYPASS IS CALLING OUT WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

THE LAST ITEM WAS ADDITIONAL AREAS OF STUDY FOR POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO RECOMMENDED YOU FOR THE DMC, THE COUNTY OR TOWN TO STUDY LOCATIONS THAT MAY BE APPROVED BECAUSE OF ST.

JUDE 24, THAT INCLUDED THE WILD HORSE GUMTREE INTERSECTION, THE OR WILD HORSE ROAD AND WILD WORST INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, PARALLEL LOCAL ROAD CONNECTOR, SPARCO MODEL, HORSE ROAD, EXTENDING LIKE SENDING CHAMBERLAIN DRIVE TO SPANISH WELLS AND A LANE CONFIGURATION FOR WESTBOUND MODE, TWO 78 IN HOUSE ON OUR APARTMENT.

SO AS PART OF OUR EVALUATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO ANALYZE THE OLD LOT OF WORST WILD HORSE ROAD FOR POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS WITH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC BEING DIVERTED OFF WILD HORSE ON THE OLD WILD HORSE.

SO WE WANTED TO SEE IF THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAID THE INTERSECTIONS TO BE RECONFIGURED, TO BETTER SERVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

AND THEN ALSO TO INCLUDE MY CONFIGURATION IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP WITH WESTBOUND MERGING AT THE CROSSLAND PARKWAY.

OUR PLAN IS TO DO TRAFFIC COUNTS ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER THE TOLL COMES OFF ACROSS OUR PARKWAY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE MODELS TO PROTECT WHAT THE TRAFFIC'S GOING TO DO, BUT WANTING TO TRACK ACCOUNTS OUT THERE TO SEE THE REDUCTION ON BUSINESS TWO 78, AND THE INCREASE ON THE CROSS OF PARKWAY TO TRY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND DO WE NEED TO RECONFIGURE IT IN THE MORNING.

UM, AND AS ALWAYS ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS MAY BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.

UM, THE BEST THING IS TO START PROBLEM NOW FOR FREE TO APPRENTICE THROUGH TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLANS, RAILWAY PRESERVATION, AND IDENTIFICATION OF FUNDING.

UM, I WANNA GO BACK AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THESE OTHERS, LIKE THE PEDAL LOCAL ROAD, CONNECTED SQUARE POPE AND WILD WARS.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAS ITS OWN CHALLENGES BECAUSE YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALL TRAFFIC THROUGH ONE SIGNAL WAS MAKES THAT SIGNAL FAIL IN THE FUTURE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE BASICALLY THE, THE BEST WAY TO TRY TRAVEL THROUGH HERE IS TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SIGNALS OR THE TIMING OF THE SIGNAL.

SO IT'S YOUR FAILURE SIGNALS VICTORIA, THE TITLE HAS TWO, TWO 78 QUARTER, BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO SERVE THE SIDE ROADS AND SCARP ROADS.

UM, BASICALLY TWO FOOT TO KEEP THE FUNCTIONALITY UP WITHOUT REDIRECTING ALL THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE POORER.

IT HELPS TO MOVE TWO 78 WHILE NOT HAVING A HINDRANCE ON THE SIDE OF STUDENTS.

OH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF VIDEOS, UM, OF THE, UH, THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT AS WELL.

THAT WILL SHOW AT THE END.

IF EVERYBODY'S INTERESTED IN ONE IS A SYNCHRO MODEL OF THE INTERSECTION FOCUSING, AND THE CYCLE ONE IS THE SYNCHRO MODEL.

WHEN YOU HOP IN THE CAR AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DRIVE THE ENTIRE FOUR FROM 50 CARS BACK SPANISH ROLLS ROAD, AND YOU GET ALL THE WAY TO THE PURCHASERS WITHOUT HITTING A SINGLE TRAFFIC LIGHT.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO, ONCE YOU'RE, ONCE YOU'RE MOVING THROUGH THAT, OR YOU SAY YOU READ THROUGH THAT QUARTER, UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO TWO SIDES ONE MORE? SO THIS IS WHAT'S UPCOMING FOR IF EVERYTHING MOVES FORWARD TODAY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO RIGHT NOW I CAN'T SEE THE TOP DATE THERE.

I BELIEVE IT'S DUE TO, I HAVE 14 THROUGH 16 AND THEN AUGUST 18TH THROUGH THE 21ST, WE WOULD SCHEDULE IN-PERSON PERSONAL APPOINTMENTS BETWEEN THE ONE-ON-ONE, WHERE YOU CAN SCHEDULE AN HOUR TO COME IN, TO DEAL WITH THE PROJECT TEAM THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE PELVIC HERE, TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE SAME INFORMATION, GO AND TALK TO THE PROJECT TEAM.

UM, WE INTEND TO HAVE, UM, BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE AT ALL TIMES, THE IN-PERSON PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE AT THE ISLAND IS TEN ONE SIDE FOR THE ISLAND REC CENTER ON JULY 22ND FROM THREE ARE FROM TWO TO 7:00 PM.

WE ARE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FROM, UM, ONE TO TWO FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, STAKEHOLDERS, OR STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT OPENED UP EARLY WHERE THEY CAN APPEAL.

WE CAN COME IN AND PREVIEW MATERIALS AS WELL.

AND THEN AGAIN, AUGUST 18TH THROUGH THE 21ST, THE CLOSING COMMENTARY, WE PROPOSED HOW ADDITIONAL OFFICE HOURS AND THE ONE THING THAT'S NOT LISTED THERE IS ON JULY 17TH OR HALF OF ONE TO 4:00 PM.

WE PLAN ON HAVING AN INDIVIDUAL MEETING WITH THE 70 COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE SAME MATERIAL OUT AND MEET WITH THEM OUT AT THE ROWING AND SAILING CLUB.

SO IT'S A SATURDAY FROM ONE TO 4:00 PM WHERE

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WE CAN SIT DOWN AND BASICALLY ADDRESS THAT SEARCH PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, AND ALL, ALL THAT INFORMATION WILL BE LIVE ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A SWAY AT THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE LIVE, UM, EARLY JULY.

IS IT WHENEVER IT COMES 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHEN EVERYTHING WOULD GO LIVE AND THEN SAY IN SLIDE FOUR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 30 DAYS AFTER AN APOLOGETIC.

SO THERE'S A 45 DAY COMMENT PERIOD IN THERE FOR PEOPLE TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.

UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE A PHONE NUMBER FOR PEOPLE TO CALL HER.

THEY CAN LEAVE COMMENTS.

THEY CAN REQUEST SOMEONE TO CALL BACK WITHIN 24 HOURS DURING BUSINESS 24 BUSINESS HOURS.

UM, THEY CAN ALSO TEXT THE PROJECT HOTLINE AND THEN WE HAVE THE INMAIL.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE COMING OUT OR BEING ABLE TO VIEW THEM, TURN ONLINE, WE CAN SEND THEM A PACKET OF MATERIALS SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S THOUGH THE PROJECT CONTACT WITH THE WEBSITE, FACEBOOK PAGE AND TWITTER RAGE, ALL, ALL ABOUT YOUR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OF US, THE VIDEOS, LESS DETERMINED.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE VIDEOS FIRST AND THEN HAVING THE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

UM, LARRY, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH SEEING THE VIDEOS FIRST AND THEN ASKING QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION, SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, CHRIS, WILL YOU HAVE QUESTIONS POTENTIALLY, BUT I THINK TO SEE THE VIDEO FIRST.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S LET'S SHOW THE VIDEO AND THEN WE'LL, UM, THIS WILL BE THE COMBINED, THE TITLE IS COMBINED PRIVATE ONLY.

WE'RE SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW AT THE MOMENT.

GOTCHA.

SORRY.

OKAY.

IT'S A MOVIE AND IT'S WELL WORTH IT.

THIS VIDEO IS FOUR TIMES.

I ACTUAL SPEED THROUGH THERE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT THERE FOR 10 MINUTES TO WATCH .

UM, I'M GLAD TO HAVE THE SCREEN AS A SQUATTER POPE YEAH.

FOR THE OLD WILD HORSE INTERSECTION, WHEN YOU TURN LEFT HER MOODS, YOU HAVE TWO, 650 FOOT LONG, UH, TURN LANES, WHICH GIVES ALL OF THE TRAFFIC, ALL THE QT TRAFFIC OUT OF THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE THIS PARTICULAR SECTION IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT OLD WILD HORSE WILL BE A ONE WAY ROAD FOR THE FIRST HALF OF IT FOR FOUR OF IT.

YEAH.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE QUEUING OF THE RETURN MEMBERS, BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE UNIT DOES NOT PACK UP ON TUESDAY.

SO MISSES THE WHOLE BOTTLE HORSE WALMART STORE EXPANSION WILL ALSO, THIS IS THE OTHER HALF THE CORE BOARD YOU CAN SEE THERE IS, THERE IS A CURING, UM, EASE OF , BUT WE'RE UNDER THIS SCENARIO, EVERYTHING CLEARS OUT BETWEEN 60 TO 80 CARS BACK .

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, ONE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THERE IS THE RIGHT TURN ONTO, UM, HE'S PROBABLY TWO 70 OFF THE SPANISH WALLS RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S A FOURTH LINE THAT CARRIES THROUGH THE INTERSECTION WAS COUNSELING ISSUES WITH PEOPLE MERGING, WE'VE GO THE ABILITY TO CARRY THAT FOURTH GRADE THREE LARD WITH THEM, WITH THE RACE MEDIAN, AND THEN CHANNELIZE THAT RIGHT TURN MOVEMENT.

SO IT IS A FREE FLOW OF MOVEMENT OFF OF STAY AT SCHOOLS.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A SECOND VIDEO OF GETTING IN THE CAR AND YOU CAN SEE AND THEN SHARE

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COMING OUT WITH THE SPANISH GIRLS WILD HORSE HERE.

THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY DRIVE.

YEAH.

YUP.

SO THIS IS SHOW ALL THE SYNCHRO MODELING MODELING, BECAUSE THIS IS BASED ON WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED SPEED LIMITS, 45 SHUTTER.

YEP.

45 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH MEANS EVERYBODY WILL BE DOING 60 TO 65.

THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT, LARRY YOU, UM, AND THE QUESTION, GO AHEAD.

I THANK YOU.

UM, EARLIER ON, FIRST OF ALL, HELLO, EVERYONE.

UH, EARLIER ON, THERE WERE SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT COULD BE NO LEFT TURNS, UH, IN THE EASTBOUND LANE, UM, AT SQUARE SQUARE-FOOT, UM, AT THE OLD WILD HORSE OR WILD HORSE, AND THAT THEY WOULD PROGRESS GUMTREE FOR THE LEFT IN THESE MODELS THAT APPEARS THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

SO IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION, THERE WILL BE ONE LEFT TURN.

AND THAT WOULD BE AN OLD WILD HORSE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN WE COME OUT OF SQUIRE, POPE ROAD AND WANT TO GO WESTBOUND, THERE IS ALWAYS A LINE OF 10 TO 15 TO 20 CARS THERE WHO JUST CAN'T SEEM TO GET INTO THOSE TWO LANES BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC UP.

AND THERE'S NO MERGE LANE THERE.

HAVE YOU ADDRESSED THAT? SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

SOME TO GO WEST OFF, OFF ISLAND, CORRECT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.

SO WHEN THEY GET A GREEN LIGHT, THEY STILL CAN'T MAKE A RIGHT TURN BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACKS RIGHT UP INTO THE INTERSECTION.

CORRECT.

SO THE TRAFFIC JUST BACKS UP ON SQUARE POPE BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO, INTO THAT FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

EVENTUALLY, IF THERE WAS A MERGE LANE THERE, YOU COULD MAKE FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN OF THOSE CARS TURN INTO THAT MERGE LANE AND GRADUALLY GET IN THERE.

BUT WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN AGAIN WITH THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC, PEOPLE ARE STILL STUCK IN SQUATTING HOLE ROAD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GO INTO THE TWO LANES THAT WERE BACKED UP.

AND IT WAS NO EMERGENCY LANE.

DID YOU ADDRESS A MERGE LANE AT THAT LOCATION? YEAH.

YES.

WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A MERGED ACCELERATION LANE OFF OF SQUATTER POPE ROAD ON THE WESTBOUND TWO 78.

SO THERE'LL BE HOW MANY LANES? THREE.

SO THERE'LL BE THREE THROUGH LANES AND THEN THE ACCELERATION LANE AS WELL.

SO IT'S A SHORT DISTANCE, FOUR LANE, 800 FEET.

SO THERE'LL BE THREE LANES AND A SHORT MERGE LANE.

CORRECT.

AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO LANES.

OKAY.

WELL THAT'S, UH, THAT'S BIG.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE ENTRY AND EXIT TO, UM, THE, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA, UH, WINDOW HARBOR.

DID YOU COVER THAT? YES.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S THE GATEWAY DRIVE, SEE HINDER CIRCLE.

THERE WILL BE A FULL ACCESS SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION.

IT'LL BE A THREE-PHASE SIGNAL.

UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE IS WE'VE COMBINED ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM RUINED HERON POINT JENKINS ROAD.

SO BASICALLY, UH, MARIJUANA IS CALLED HOG ISLAND WINDMILL HARBOR THAT MARIA THERE, ALL OF THAT COMES THROUGH ONE SINGLE INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE ACCESS POINTS, IT'S ALL THROUGH ONE ACCESS POINT ON THE TWO 78.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE CONFLICT POINTS THERE IS THAT CHANGED THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR WINDMILL HARBOR OR IS THAT WITH THE LIGHT MOVIE? THAT'S WHERE THE LIGHT WOULD BE.

SO, SO PEOPLE GOING WESTBOUND AND CROSSOVER AND ENTER CORRECT, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING WINDMILL HARBOR AND WANT TO GO WESTBOUND CAN CROSS OVER AND DEPART CORRECT.

AND THE RIGHT HAND, RIGHT LEG, THE RIGHT TURNS GOING EASTBOUND.

REALLY.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A REAL ISSUE WITH THAT IS THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW IS FINE.

SO THAT LIGHT THERE WILL CONTROL THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OH, I'M SORRY.

LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.

WHEN YOU MAKE THE LEFT ON OLD WILD HORSE, PEOPLE USUALLY WANT TO MAKE THE LEFT ON SPORT, OUR BOAT, AND THEN THEY GO UP

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TO THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR THEY MAKE A LEFT ON, UM, ON WILD HORSE, ACROSS FROM SPANISH WELLS ROAD.

AND THEY REJOINED GUMTREE ROAD WHERE THEY CAN MAKE A LEFT AND GO INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR PEOPLE ONCE THEY GET ON OLD WILD HORSE TO HAVE A NETWORK AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATION.

SO ASSUMING THAT NOT ALL HEADACHE TO HILTON HEAD PLANTATION.

SO THE, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU TURNED.

SO BASICALLY THE, AT THAT LOCATION, THERE'S TWO TURN LANES.

THERE'S THE ABILITY FOR THE INSIDE LANE TO TURN, TO MAKE A HUGE TURN MEMORY OR TO TURN LEFT.

THE OUTSIDE LANE WOULD TURN LEFT.

SO ALL BALTIMORE'S ROAD BECOMES A ONE WAY ROAD, ONE LANE, OR ONE WAY TOO WAY TOO LATE ROADWAY, UM, WHICH WOULD CONNECT BACK INTO WALWORTH.

SO IF SOMEONE WAS TRADITIONALLY KIND OF LEFT ON TO WALDORF ROAD, THEY WOULD TURN LEFT TO OLD WILD HORSE, JUST CONTINUE UP THAT CONNECTION WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE FOLLOWERS THAN IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHARCOAL PRO THEY CAN MAKE A U-TURN AND GO BACK TO SQUARE POPE ROAD.

IT HAPPENED AND I SEE A PROTECTED ROOM AND I SAID, I DID IT ALL THE WAY ACROSS ALL THE TRAFFIC TO MAKE THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S THE ACCELERATION LIKE .

SO YOU'RE THERE MAKE A LEFT ON OLD WILD HORSE THAT CONNECTS TO THE WILD HORSE AND THAT'LL EVENTUALLY CONNECT THEM TO DUMP THREE ROADS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

HOW ABOUT, HOW DO YOU, WHEN, WHEN YOU MAKE THE LEFT ON OLD WILD HORSE, HOW DO YOU GET THE SQUIRE POPE? YOU DON'T MAKE THE LIFE ONTO A WATER WORSE.

YOU NEED TO U-TURN YOU MAKE A U-TURN.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO INSPIRE BOOKMAKER WRITING, CORRECT? YEAH.

IT'S ALL A THOUSAND FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN, OH, IT'S A PROTECTED U-TURN IT'S ALL PRETEND TO DO RETURNS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO GO NEXT, CHRIS, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

UH, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

THIS WAS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.

AND I ALSO APPRECIATE IT.

LARRY'S OUR QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THOSE WERE EXCEPTIONALLY HELPFUL EXCEPT TO FOLLOW UPS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR.

UM, SO THE LIGHT AT WINDMILL HARBOR, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THAT GATE OR THAT ENTRANCE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

CORRECT.

CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I HEARD THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN ACCESS POINT TO THE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHEREAS I JUST DOING THE WINDMILL HARBOR, THE GATE STAYS THE SAME THERE'S LIGHT THAT GOES IN THERE.

YES, IT WAS.

SO JUST BE MORE HARBOR AND THE GATE WILL SAY THE SAME THING.

THERE WAS A LOCATED, TRYING TO DO A FULL LIGHT.

NICE.

LIKE NOT HAVING LIGHT THERE.

IT MADE YOU ALL RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT THROUGH THAT ENTIRE AREA.

BUT BY DOING THAT, YOU HAVE TO GO BEHIND HIM A HARBOR'S GATE.

THEY EITHER HAVE THAT FIRST ROAD WITHIN WHEN THE HARBOR NO LONGER HAS AN GAINING PROTECTION BEHIND IT.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF ELIMINATED EARLY FROM THAT CONSIDERATION.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

VERY HELPFUL.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS I THINK THAT THE LIGHT THERE AND WINDMILL HARBOR WAS ALWAYS THE PREFERRED SOLUTION GOING BACK YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

BUT IF MEMORY SERVES LIKE THAT, WASN'T A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE BRIDGE, I THINK IS WHAT I HEARD.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HOW THAT ANALYSIS HAS CHANGED.

WHAT'S CHANGED IN THE ANALYSIS LIKE YOU GO THERE, SO THAT THAT LOCATION NEVER MET.

SO DOD HAS A SINGLE WORD ANALYSIS AND THE MUT TCB HAS A SINGLE WORD ANALYSIS THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF CRITERIA THAT YOU FOLLOW.

SO BASICALLY THE WAY THAT WE MET THE CIVIL WAR WAS TO ELIMINATE THE OTHER ROADWAYS TO THE CORRIDOR.

SO YOU'RE COMBINING ALL THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT ONE INTERSECTION AND IT MEETS THE BASIC MEETS THE SIGNAL WARRANTS.

AND THE OTHER ITEM WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO A, YOU CAN REDUCE THE RIGHT TURN THAT THERE'S AN ADDUCTION THAT GOES IN THERE FOR RIGHT TURN.

SO YOU DON'T COUNT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TAKEN A RIGHT TURN.

IT'S TYPICALLY NOT COUNTED IN THE CAR, COUNT FOR THE INTERSECTION, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY, THE TWO 78 AND THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IS COMING THROUGH THERE, WE WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER BASICALLY THAT, UM, RIGHT.

TAKING THOSE REDUCTIONS OUT, THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITHOUT A SIGNAL.

YOU KNOW, THEY, IT WILL TAKE THEM SO LONG.

AND THE, SO THEY SEE IT WAS COMBINED THE TRAFFIC AND THEN THE RIGHT TURN LANE TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT TURN REDUCTION.

GOT IT.

THAT IS VERY INTERESTING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

IT'S OKAY.

MARK OR YORK, ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU? OKAY.

UH, YOU TOO MARK TOURISTS.

UH, HE'S NOT ANSWERING YORK, SO GO.

OKAY.

NO, I, I DON'T, UM, UH, APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THE, UH, INITIAL PRESENTATION.

UM, I COULDN'T, I GET ON ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.

SO I HAD TO TALK TO ANOTHER LOCATION.

UM, YOUR PRESENTATION, THE EARLIER PRESENTATION, IS IT ON ALL LIGHT OR A VIDEO OR SOME SORT OF, DO YOU GUYS PROVIDE IT TO YOU? YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST TO GET YOU TO WHERE THIS IS GOING.

THAT

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WILL HELP ME.

THANKS.

OKAY, JOEL, IF THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD, MARK.

I JUST WANT TO FALL, LET HER GET A LITTLE AIR.

UM, THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT TO GIVE YOU LIKE AT A HUNDRED AND ALL DAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT LIGHT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE TO HAVE SOME PRIVACY TO BEGIN.

JUST LISTENING TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

EXCELLENT.

EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, BUT NET TO LIKE PUSH IT UP.

YEAH.

SO THEY, THEY WILL STILL PASS.

SO, UM, RENTERS PROBABLE PASS UNDER THE BRIDGE TO GO OVER TO THE HALL, THERE WILL BE A NEW BRIDGE, NEW, SMALL BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS HOLLAND ISLAND TO JENKINS ISLAND THAT WOULD CONNECT THROUGH BACK UP TO THE SINGLE.

SO WITH BLUE POINT GOING AWAY, UM, IT'S JUST REROUTING THE TRAFFIC TO HARBOR ISLAND AND ACROSS THE JENKINS ZONE.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT INITIAL RIGHT TURN, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT TURN AT 600 CIRCLE OR GATEWAY DRIVE AND GO BACK TO THEM.

HMM.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I SAID THAT'S THAT STUFF.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I AM.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO USE THAT UNDER BEST I'VE IS THAT RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO THERE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YES.

OH NO.

WELL, THAT'S FINE.

AND THEN CONNECTED ON LONG ISLAND.

AND IS THERE DOES A ROAD AFTER DOING IT A CONNECTED BEHIND RICK STORY? YEAH.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL DEVELOP A ROUTE.

WE'RE BASICALLY DEVELOPING A FURNITURE DRUG THAT CONNECTS BETWEEN HOLLAND ISLAND AND JENKINS ROAD.

GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM, CHRIS.

YEAH.

ONE MORE.

I FORGOT TO ASK THAT APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I NOMINATED THE QUESTION.

WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE TIMING WHEN THE LIGHT GOES IN FRONT OF WHEN NOT HARVARD, UM, THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED, THE FINAL TIMING OF THAT LINE.

UM, IT DOES OPERATE IN A LEVEL OF SERVICE SEES.

SO IT'S OPERATING THE SAME ROLE OF SERVICE THAT THE CORRIDOR IS.

SO WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY BACKUPS, SIGNIFICANT BACKUP THE INTERSECTION YOU MIGHT SEE 15 OR 20 CARS MIGHT HAVE ON TWO 78, BUT MOST OF IT IS GONNA BE PRETTY SHORT SINGLE TIME FOR THE SIDE STREETS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A GREAT DEAL OF TRAFFIC AT THAT LOCATION.

YEAH.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION VERY WELL AT ALL.

UH, BASICALLY WHEN IS THE LIGHT GETTING, GOING TO BE INSTALLED? OH, SORRY.

YES.

THE LABILE REINSTALL IS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO ALL THE, ALL THE CONNECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE PRIOR TO THAT MIKE SOLD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YOU KNOW, I, OH, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

AFTER, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE OH, OKAY.

GO FIRST.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

HI GREG.

CAUSE IT'S UM, I DO THINK THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW IN THIS THING IS, UH, PUT TO BED A LOT OF, A LOT OF ISSUES AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN GOOD.

UM, I GOT A COUPLE OF JUST KIND OF COMMON MAN TYPE THINGS.

AS I TALKED TO PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND, UH, FIRST IT HAS TO DO WITH, WITH SAFETY.

IT SEEMS THAT THAT LITTLE SECTION THROUGH STONEY, UH, IS THE MOST ACCIDENT PRONE PART OF THE ISLAND WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF SEA PINE CIRCLE, WHICH TENDS TO BE SIDESWIPED.

SO IN TERMS OF REGULAR ACCIDENTS, REAR ENDS AND SO ON, AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SIGNALS AND INCREASING THE THROUGHPUT AND STILL HAVING LEFT TURNS AND ALL OF THAT SEEMS TO ME, IT'S GOING TO BE LESS SAFE.

IS THERE SOME, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THE TERM SAFETY AUDIT, IS THIS GOING TO BE DONE OR HAS BEEN DONE AS PART OF THIS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SAFE BECAUSE IT APPEARS LIKE IT MAY START TO BE UNSAFE.

YEAH.

EVERY WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND THEN ANALYZE THE SAFETY.

THAT'S PART OF THE DEEPER PROCESS, DID THE SAFETY CORRIDOR.

SO WE'RE, AS YOU, AS YOU COME THROUGH THAT SECTION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS ACCESS AS WELL AS THE VEHICULAR SAFETY.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH, LEARN BY ELIMINATING AND MAKING EVERYTHING TO FAIRLY SIGNALS THROUGH THERE AND IMPROVES THE SAFETY OF THE COURT, WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO BASICALLY GEARS ALL THE CONFLICT IN YOUR MIND.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR LEFT TURN MOVEMENT NOW IS ALL PROTECTED.

SO IT'S A PROTECTED LEFT TURN, PATROLLING ATTORNEY LANDS ACROSS TRAFFIC TO ONE LOCATION.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A LEFT TURN AT SCORE, MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVE SPANISH WALLS.

YOU HAVE ONE CONSOLIDATE LEFT TURN.

SO THE OTHER THING IS THE LEFT TURNS ON WESTBOUND LEFT TURNS ONTO, UM, SQUATTER PUMP ROAD.

I'VE HEARD ADAPT TO THE TURN AS WELL.

SO YOU HAVE A POSE THAT YOU TERMS THERE.

SO THOSE WERE ABLE TO WELL-TRAVELED SLOP.

YOU CAN CLEAR THOSE YOU TERMS. SO YOU'RE ELIMINATING THAT THE PEOPLE TURNING IT, HOUSE TRAFFIC.

SO WITH THOSE SIGNALS AND ADVANCED WARNING, YOU'RE ABLE TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THAT WAR, BUT YOU'RE ALSO ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW MAJORITY OF THE ACCIDENTS IN THAT AREA ARE AN ENTIRE PORTAL.

OUR REAR END TYPE OF ACCIDENTS, WHICH IS CONGESTION MEANS THERE.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE ANGULAR COLLISIONS INTERSECTIONS WHILE YOU'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE ANGULAR COLLISIONS BY GOING TO TWO FACE SIGNALS AND PROTECTING THE U-TURN.

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SO THAT INCREASES THE SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE QUARTER.

OKAY.

UH, SECONDLY, UM, I KNEW I HAVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS OVER TIME, BUT, UM, PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHY WE WOULDN'T DO A GREAT SEPARATION.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE VOLUME, I UNDERSTAND THE VOLUME IS GOING TO BE GREATER THAN IT IS ON 95.

WHY WE WOULDN'T JUST BITE THE BULLET AND HAVE ONE GRADE SEPARATION, WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY REDUCE CONGESTION AND IMPROVE SAFETY SIGNIFICANTLY THOUGH.

BUT HOW DOES THAT SORT OUT AS AN EXPLANATION TO THE COMMON MAN IMPACTS AND STUFF IS THE EASIEST EXPLANATION TO THAT BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU DO A GRADE SEPARATION, YOU RAISED IT PUTTING A FULL INTERCHANGE IN THERE.

SO BASICALLY IF YOU SAY DISPATCH WALLS, YOU'RE IMPACTING NASALLY, EVERYTHING FROM OLD WILD HORSE ROAD TO BASICALLY THE CROSS ISLAND TO GET OUT, NOBODY WANTS TO ACTUALLY GO.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE GRADE SEPARATED, YOU'RE BASICALLY 2000 FOOT WALL, YOU GET YOUR GRADE SOME REASON TO GET UP AND DOWN AND THAT'S AT THE MAXIMUM MAKE CLIMB RATE.

SO YOU'RE YOU CLIMBING UP YOUR BRIDGE COMING DOWN, IT'S 2000 FEET TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO THE GRADE SEPARATED ANYTHING ALL TWO 78 WOULD IMPACT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD WIPE OUT ALL THE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS WITHIN STONY AND IN THAT GENERAL AREA.

SO SAME APPLY TO, UH, AN OVERPASS.

THAT'S A GOING THROUGH SPANISH WELLS TO WILD HORSE.

YOU WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS IN THERE AS WELL.

OKAY.

ARE YOU SAYING IF WE, IF THERE WASN'T A COMMUNITY CONSIDERATION YOU JUST DESCRIBED, WOULD THAT IN FACT, BE THE PREFERRED SOLUTION TO HAVE A GREAT SEPARATION, WE STILL HAVE ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, THE SORT OF HURT THE WETLAND IMPACTS THERE.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO GET WITHOUT GRID SEPARATION, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL AT BOND ACTS UP A LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE CORRIDOR, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD SEE PROBABLY SIMILAR LEVEL OF SERVICE WITH THE GRADE SEPARATION, WITH YOUR MERGE DIVERSE CONDITIONS.

YOU ACTUALLY PRODUCED THE SAFETY OF THE CORE BECAUSE YOU INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL SIGNALS OR INTRODUCE THE VESSEL MERGE EFFORTS LOCATIONS.

OKAY.

UM, I DIDN'T QUITE FOLLOW THE ONE SLIDE THAT HAD THE DELAYS AND THE AVERAGE SPEEDS, BUT DID I INTERPRET THAT CORRECTLY? THAT AT THE PEAK PERIOD OF TIME HAD BEEN AT LEE, THE DESIGN POINT OF 2045, THAT THE TRAFFIC IS NOT FREE-FLOWING IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAN THE 45 MILES PER HOUR, CORRECT? YES.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICAL, THAT'S TYPICAL OF EIGHT TIME CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO OVER-DESIGN THEM.

SO IT'S FLOWING, YOU HAD A LEVEL OF SORT OF RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE QUARTER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, EVEN GOING TO FOUR LANES AND IT GETS YOUR LEVEL OF SERVICE B.

SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, YOU DON'T, YOU CAN'T, YOU BASICALLY CAN'T Y YOURSELF, I HAVE CONGESTION TO, YOU KNOW, TO SOME POINT AC YOU CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S ACCEPTABLE AND THAT'S WHERE YOU CONTINUE TO FIND THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CONDITION, THAT TRAVEL TIME IS PROBABLY ACCEPTABLE AT THAT TIME.

YEAH.

UH, LASTLY, JUST TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING EVEN THOUGH THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IS SCHEDULED TO COME OUT IN JULY, I GUESS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE, YOU HAVE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AM I INTERPRETING THAT CORRECTLY? WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED, PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS.

OKAY.

UM, AND, AND IN THAT, UH, IS THAT ALSO FOR THE BRIDGE ALSO, OR IS THAT PORTION STILL BEING WORKED ON YES, IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE QUARTER, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED PREFERRED FOR THE TIME.

OKAY.

AND I GUESS I'VE NEVER QUITE ANSWERED.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PARTIALLY REVEALED, BUT NOT TOTALLY REVEALED.

AND I REALIZE IT'S CONDITIONAL ON EPA AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY.

UM, WHY, WHY WOULD JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION, WHY WOULDN'T THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE BE OUT THERE? SO THEN PEOPLE COULD BE RESPONDING TO IT? CAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS AND MAYBE IT'S THE NATURE OF THE PROCESS TO HAVE A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, RUN IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

AND THEN IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, THEN IN A POSITION OF, WELL, WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO HERE? IS THAT THE NATURE OF THE PROCESS THAT IS A FEDERAL HIGHWAY IN D OR C HEARING, WE CANNOT RELEASE THE PERIPHERAL ALTERNATIVE OR THE IMPACTS ASSOCIATED THE FOREHEAD PASS ASSOCIATED WITH IT UNTIL FEDERAL HIGHWAY SIGNS IN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT.

OKAY.

SO IN DOING THAT, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR PUBLIC HEARING ALLOWS FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON IT.

SO FOR AN AA DOCUMENT, TYPICALLY LEARN, YOU KNOW, FOR A SMALLER PROJECT FOR AN EA SCALE, WE WOULD HAVE ONE PUBLIC MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THE PUBLIC SEES THE PROJECT.

THEY HAVE 50 AMAZING HAVE A 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD FROM CONDUIT ON IT, BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS AND COMMENTS FROM YOUR LOCAL PARTNERS AND RESOURCE PARTNERS, YOU GO BACK

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AND YOU REFINE THOSE.

SO YOU CAN GO BACK FROM, FROM ALTERNATIVE AND TWEAK IT TO REDUCE THE IMPACTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BRINGS UP, HEY, WHY DON'T WE RELOCATE THIS? OR HOW DID YOU CONSIDER THIS? AND WE STARTED RIGHT AWAY.

AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT BASICALLY WE GO BACK AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND MAKE THOSE REVISIONS.

SO THE FINAL FEDERAL DECISION WILL NOT COME UNTIL THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OFF.

YOU PULL IT HERE.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO AND PULL THE COMMENTS TOGETHER.

AND WE SUBMIT THAT THE REVISIONS FEDERAL HIGHWAYS, UH, UNDER THIS, THERE WERE HELPFUL FOR A FILE FONZIE FINDING A NOTICE NIFTY IMPACT.

AND SO, BUT EFFECTIVELY, YOU'RE SAYING AT LEAST THROUGH THE STONEY PORTION, WE HAVE, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND LESS EPA AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING THAT MADISON UP WITH? BASICALLY A MAJORITY OF THE ALTERNATIVES HAVE THE SAME SOLUTION THROUGH THAT SORT OF ALL IMPACTS.

SO WE WEREN'T AT THE INTERSECTIONS AND THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE THOSE AND FELT COMFORTABLE RELEASING THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, GREG.

OKAY.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WAS TO TAKE THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW THAT WAS DONE THE QUESTIONS, AND YOU'VE ANSWERED THEM.

AND I GOT TO TELL YOU THE REACTIONS OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS INDICATE HOW WELL YOU HAVE ANALYZED EVERYTHING.

I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THE LOOK ON CHRIS HARVEY'S JOHN'S FACE WAS MAGNIFICENT BECAUSE HE REPRESENTS WINDMILL HARBOR.

THEY HAVE COME TO HIM TIME AND TIME AGAIN, HELP US.

YOU HAVE LISTENED THAT PREFERRED METHOD OF HAVING THE PEOPLE GET INTO THEIR COMMUNITY AND OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY WITHOUT MAJOR DISRUPTION IS EXCEPTIONAL.

I HOPE I'VE SAID IT CORRECTLY FOR YOU, CHRIS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS.

UM, LARRY WHO LIVES ON THE ISLAND.

HE, HE WAS BIBLE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THIS MAKES SENSE.

NOW I'M GOING TO PLAY NOT DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.

I'M GOING TO PAY, PLAY THE POSITION OF THE AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL, WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

WHEN WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE IS EXCEPTIONAL.

THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO SPEAK A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.

PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A TWO PHASE LIGHT IS CORRECT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM.

A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

SO WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHT AT THIS AND THE YOU TERMS, YOU KNOW, VISUAL IS GOING TO SAY IT ALL.

YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO I, YOU KNOW, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS ON AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT JULY 22ND PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S GOING TO A LAY THE L A LOT OF THE FEARS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BECAUSE YOU LAID A LOT OF THE FEARS THAT COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE AS TO GEE.

THIS MAKES SENSE.

NOW WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

I HAVE, I OVERSTEP MY BOUNDS WITH YOU, CHRIS, ARE YOU LARRY? IS THAT HOW YOU SEE IT? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE ROAD LAYOUT, BUT THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE LOW BACK WITH REGARD TO THE STONEY WITH EXPANDING TO THE LANES AND, UH, PERHAPS, UM, CONDEMNING AND PURCHASING PROPERTY AND MOVING FAMILIES, DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THAT WASN'T MENTIONED HERE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HAVE TO BE, IT WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME UP.

THAT'S THE MAJOR CONCERN OF THE PEOPLE IN THE HISTORIC AREA OF STONEY, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT 10 AND RUNS FROM THE CRAZY CRAB, RIGHT IN THE SPANISH WORLD ROAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, WHERE THERE ARE FAMILIES WHO HAVE BEEN DISPLACED BY THE PREVIOUS ROAD WORK AND ARE ANTICIPATING FROM THE DISPLACEMENT BY THIS REWORK.

AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE INTERESTING TO FORM AN OPINION OF, OF THAT.

UM, ASIDE FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WINDMILL HARBOR, I MEAN, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, UM, SOLUTION TO A LONGSTANDING PROBLEM.

NOW WE'RE FACED WITH CREATING, GRABBED THE SPANISH BULLET ROAD AND THAT'D BE GOOD.

YEAH.

AND

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I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

WE'VE WE STARTED BACK IN NOVEMBER, UH, NOVEMBER OF 2019.

WE HAD THE SECOND MEETING WITH THE SONY COMMUNITY SINCE THEN WE'VE HAD SIX MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, UM, TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS, TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENTS.

UM, WE WENT OUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH EACH BUSINESS OWNER, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE QUARTER.

WE'VE HAD ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH EVERYBODY OUT THERE NOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, PEOPLE ARE, SOME ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM.

WE DECIDED AS LIVING ROOMS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE AND JUST EXPLAIN TO THEM.

SO WHEN THEY COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SURPRISED BY WHAT THEY SEE, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING AN INDIVIDUAL MEETING WITH THE SONY COMMUNITY PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL? MY GOD, TOM.

AND IF I MIGHT, CHRIS, YEAH.

I'M WITH, UH, LARRY ON THIS ONE, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STONEY'S COMMUNITY.

IT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SURPRISE TO THEM.

WHAT'S PRESENTED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS WE SURPRISE THEM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO ALSO MAKE THEM ANGRY.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE THE SURPRISE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A LIGHT ON WINDOW HARVARD, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE SAFEST OPTION IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, MY KNOWLEDGE WASN'T CONTEMPLATED AS POSSIBLE UNTIL NOW.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A POSITIVE, THERE ARE STILL SOME CONCERNS THOUGH ABOUT, UM, THE BRANCH OF THE PROXIMITY TO WHEN WILL HARMER AND HOW CLOSE IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, NOISE FACTORS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO I PERSONALLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DIGEST THIS, BUT I DO THINK THAT OVERALL WE'RE GOING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL GET HUNG UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE STONY AREA, BUT AS I STEPPED BACK FROM IT FROM, IF YOU LOOK AT A $300 MILLION PROJECT, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT IN TOTAL.

AND THEN CLEARLY THE BRIDGES ARE THE BIG PART.

I THINK YOU'D GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON WINDMILL HARBOR.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK SOMETIMES WE ALL LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, THAT, THAT AREA, ALTHOUGH IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IS STILL A RELATIVELY SMALL PIECE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND THE BRIDGE IS OBVIOUSLY A TREMENDOUS DESIGN TYPE OF ACTIVITY THAT YOU HAVE.

SO WE WANT TO PLAY HIGHWAY ENGINEER AS YOU KNOW, SO NOW WHILE WE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY KIND OF VOTE, UM, BUT I WOULD SURMISE THAT AS A RESULT OF THE PRESENTATION, WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE THIS MOVED AHEAD SO THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC PRESENTATION ON JULY 22ND.

I THINK THAT, UH, UM, SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

THE MORE WE GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITH YOU PRESENT, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE EXPERTS AT THIS.

I THINK IT WILL, UH, BODE WELL FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS AND CAN REALLY GET THEM ANSWERED.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL COMING.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING TODAY.

THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

UH, THE, THE, UH, UH, COUNTY CHANNEL WE'LL HAVE THE PRESENTATION ON IT FOR ANYBODY WHO, UH, CAME IN LATE AND DID NOT SEE IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

AND I'M SURE THAT, UH, INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION.

WELL, ALSO A LOT OF THE PRESENTATION ON OUR WEBSITE TO THE POLO CAN ACCESS AS WELL.

OKAY, GREAT.

YOU THINK YOU'RE BRIEFING THE TOWN TOMORROW ON COUNCIL TOMORROW? SAME PRESENTATION PROBABLY.

YEAH.

SAME PRESENTATION.

11:00 AM.

11:00 AM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE PELLET HERE AND FOR 220 SECONDS.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.