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CHAIRMAN OF THE, UH, MPC, UH, CITY OF BUFORD, I'LL GO NEXT.
I'M ALICE HOWARD DISTRICT FOUR COUNTY COUNCIL, AND I HOPE OUR GUESTS WILL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO POLICE THAT WE CAN SEE DAWSON COUNTY AND CONSOLE DISTRICT MAYOR STEVEN MURRAY, THE CITY OF BUFORD, JOE DEVITO, PORT ROYAL ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL, PAPPAS PLANNING COMMISSION DEAL FOR COUNTY DAN FURNITURE.
I AM A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF BUFORD.
I'M DAVE WILHELM, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS, BUT WE FOR CANNON COUNTY ENGINEERING CAN BE QUARTER OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING DIRECTOR.
UM, UM, NO SLUMBERING YOU FOR COMING UNDER BRIDGES, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL PLANNING.
I'M STEPHANIE ROSSI IN THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AT LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS CONSULTING, WORKING FOR COUNTY.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS ON THERE THAT HAVEN'T INTRODUCED HIMSELF YET.
UH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING AHEAD AND DOING THAT VIDEO IS NOT WORKING.
UH, LET'S UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START.
SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS, UH, UH, FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING OF THE, UH, NRPC, UH, TO, UH, UH, TO ORDER AND, AND ASK FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IF EVERYONE WOULD STAND FOR THAT.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT FOYA, UH, NOTIFICATIONS HAVE ALL GONE OUT, UH, FOR THIS MEETING.
UM, AND I WOULD ASK FOR A, UH, MOTION AND APPROVAL OR DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 22ND MEETING.
MR. CHAIRMAN I'LL SECOND MOTION IS SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND AND ANYBODY OPPOSED IT'S UNANIMOUS.
UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN LATER WHEN THAT CAME OUT, UH, THAT I DON'T HAVE A IN MY HANDS.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE GET THAT CORRECTED AND MAYBE THESE, THE, THESE, UH, THE AGENDA SENT BACK OUT AGAIN.
AND ANOTHER THING IS, UH, I HAVE BEEN REMISS IN STRAIGHTENING OUT THE, UH, DISCUSSION ITEMS. SOME OF THESE ARE ON THE, UH, UH, 21 ACTION ITEMS, UH, LIST.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL INSERT THESE, UH, INTO THAT AS WE GO THROUGH IT.
UH, AND I BELIEVE I SENT OUT A COPY OF THAT, UH, UM, ACTION ITEM LIST FOR 21 TO EVERYBODY.
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SO I THINK YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THAT.UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE AGENDA? RIGHT? YOU HAD SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR AGENDA, BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY WHAT IT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME THING.
UM, UH, THERE'S SOME ITEMS HERE ON THE UPDATES, UH, LIKE, UH, UH, THE, UM, UH, IMPACT, UH, FEES AT PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, AND THE, UH, LOCAL PARKS LIST.
UH, SO THOSE ARE ALL ON MY PRIOR PRIORITIZED LIST OF ACTION ITEMS, UH, WHICH IS NUMBER NINE AT THE TOP.
SO WHEN I GO THROUGH MY PRIORITIZE OF ACTION ITEMS, I'LL GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THESE AS A SHOW UP ON THE NUMBERED LIST THAT I HAVE OUT.
UM, THE REASON I'VE DONE THAT NUMBERED LIST WITH RESPONSIBILITIES AND DATES ON IT IS JUST TO GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT ALL THE ACTION ITEMS ARE AND MAKE IT A CONTINUING LIST WITH DATES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE REVIEWS.
IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, UH, IMPORTANT TO THE REST OF THE BOARD HERE, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO STOP DOING THAT.
WE'LL JUST GO WITH A LIST OF THOSE ON, UH, THE DISCUSSION ITEMS, UH, BUT FOR NOW, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH JUST HAVING THAT LIST THERE SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MEMORIALIZED A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS START HERE THEN WITH THE ITEM, NUMBER SIX ON YOUR AGENDA, AND, UH, ASK FOR, UH, THE COMMENTS OR PRESENTATION BY, UH, DAVID WILHELM AND A WELCOME, UH, WELCOME TO, UH, UH, THE COMMITTEE.
WELL, DAVID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I'LL BE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE FOR CUTTING YOU OFF, BUT THERE IS A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION ON THE AGENDA AND I, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE JUST TO OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE MR. WILLINGHAM STARTS HIS PRESENTATION.
DAVID, I'M SORRY FOR CUTTING YOU OFF.
I, I SKIPPED RIGHT OVER THAT, UH, WHEN I WENT TO THE AGENDA.
SO ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I KNOW WHERE YOU LOOKING AT THOSE OR SOMEBODY ELSE IT'S NOT BEING LIKE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S, UH, HEARING OR SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING THAT OVER, BUT I'LL GO BACK TO YOU, DAVID, AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, INFORM US ON WHAT Y'ALL ARE UP TO.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR INVITING US.
AS I SAID, CINDY, CINDY CARTER SORT OF DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
SHE AND I WILL BE CO-PRESENTING TODAY.
AND WE HAVE A SHORT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION WITH SOME SLIDES AND WELCOME TO ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
AFTER WE WRAP, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR COPERS ENTERS NAME AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
CINDY CARTER DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING FOR COUNTY.
ON THIS SLIDE, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IDENTIFIED.
WHAT ARE WE CONSIDER ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THIS DEPARTMENT? UH, FIRST ONE IS, UM, PROGRAM COSTS.
UH, OUR JOB IS TO MANAGE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLED MATERIALS IN THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE.
AND YOU'LL SEE, ON THE NEXT LINE, WHICH CINDY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, GIVE SOME MORE DETAIL HOW MUCH OUR COSTS ARE INCREASING EACH YEAR.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE VERY MUCH KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT, UM, INCREASING POPULATION.
UM, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT US? UM, ON AVERAGE, EVERY PERSON GENERATES ALMOST A TON OF WASTE PER YEAR.
UM, B FOR COUNTY TAXES, UH, PAY FOR DISPOSAL OF ALL RESIDENTIAL WASTE GENERATED WITHIN BUFORD COUNTY.
SO AS POPULATION INCREASES, THE AMOUNT OF WASTE PROPORTIONALLY INCREASES.
SO OUR, OUR COSTS INCREASE TOO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A FACTOR, UH, WITH WHICH WE HAVE TO MANAGE, UH, THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
UM, I HOPE EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR.
WE HAVE, UH, CONVENIENCE CENTERS FOR A RESIDENTIAL DISPOSAL OF WASTE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE CURBSIDE COLLECTION, THESE COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE 20 PLUS YEARS OLD.
UM, SOME OF THEM ARE LOCATED ON PRETTY SMALL FOOTPRINTS ORIGINALLY OF CONVENIENCE CENTER USAGE, OR FOR BASICALLY FOR RURAL RURAL AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, GET CURBSIDE COLLECTION.
SO THERE'S BEEN SOME CHALLENGES, UH, MAINTAINING THOSE, OPERATING THOSE.
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UH, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A FEW CHANGES RECENTLY AND CINDY WE'LL GIVE SOME DETAILS ON THAT.AND I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS, UH, RECYCLING MARKETS, UH, BACK IN 2016, 2017, UH, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS KNOWN AS THE CHINA SWORD POLICY, AND THAT'S BASICALLY A POLICY THAT CHINA IMPLEMENTED WHERE THEY RESTRICTED THE AMOUNT OF RECYCLABLE MATERIALS.
UH, THEY WOULD IMPORT, UM, UP UNTIL THEN 90 TO 95% OF ALL RECYCLABLES WENT TO CHINA ONCE THEY CLOSED THEIR DOORS, UH, IT REALLY HURT THE, UH, RECYCLING MARKETS.
UH, THE PRICE HAS PLUMMETED AND IT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MARKETS REALLY TOOK A DOWNTURN.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS IN THE LAST SIX, EIGHT MONTHS RECYCLING MARKETS HAVE STARTED COMING BACK.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE RECYCLING MARKETS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, LITERARY CONTROL, LITERATURE AND ENFORCEMENT, UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED LITTER AS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM IN BUFORD COUNTY.
UH, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE CREATED A FULL-TIME LITTER IN FOR OUR LITTER CONTROL TEAM.
UH, WE HAVE A THREE PERSON TEAM THAT WORKS 40 HOURS A WEEK, UH, PICKING UP LITTER, UH, AND JUST RECENTLY, UH, COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONED TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, AN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S LITTER CONTROL OFFICERS.
SO THAT GIVES US A TOTAL OF THREE.
SO I FEEL WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING GREAT STRIDES IN, UH, CONTROLLING LITTER.
WE ALSO HAVE VERY ACTIVE ADOPT THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A HUNDRED AND IT'S OVER A HUNDRED, I THINK IT'S 107 ACTIVE WITHOUT THE HIGHWAY GROUPS, WHICH DO A GREAT JOB OF PICKING UP LATER AND HELPING US CONTROL, UH, LATER ON THE ROADSIDES.
SO AGAIN, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY AWARE OF AND FINALLY, A HICKORY HILL LANDFILL, UH, HICKORY HILL LANDFILL IS THE LANDFILL OWNED AND OPERATED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT.
ALL OF OUR WASTE GOES TO THAT LANDFILL.
WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO TAKE ALL OF OUR WASTE TO THAT LANDFILL THROUGH JUNE OF 2025.
UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AUCTIONS, UH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH OUR WASTE AFTER THAT? HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE IT? UH, IT'S GOING TO TAKE QUITE A WHILE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SITING DESIGN, PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT, UH, GOING A DIFFERENT ROUTE, UH, THE LANDFILL ITSELF PROBABLY ONLY HAS SIX TO EIGHT YEARS OF LIFE LEFT.
AFTER THAT TIME WASTE MANAGEMENT WILL PROBABLY EITHER BUILD A TRANSFER STATION OR THEY MAY LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL LAND.
SO THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY TO CONTINUE A RELATIONSHIP WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS BECAUSE WE FEEL THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO LANDFILLING THAT MAY BE BETTER FOR BUFORD COUNTY.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH.
UH, RALPH CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND CINDY, I THINK YOU'LL TAKE THIS ONE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR COST ARE ESCALATING.
WE'VE TRIED TO, UM, PLAN AHEAD THE FIRST FEW YEARS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SOLID LINE IS REALLY WHERE OUR CALLS ACTUALLY WERE.
UM, AND THEN WE STARTED THE RED DASH LINE THIS YEAR, WHERE WE WERE ON TARGET THE $9.3 MILLION.
THAT'S IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
UH, WE ARE PUTTING IN A BUDGET, UH, CURRENTLY FOR OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND IT WAS ESTIMATED AT 10.3 MILLION.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO 10.6.
UM, IN WHAT WE SUBMIT FOR THIS YEAR, UM, AS DAVE MENTIONED WITH THE POPULATION INCREASE, IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT EXACTLY WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.
AND EACH YEAR OUR VENDORS OBVIOUSLY INCUR THE CPI INCREASES THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE BUDGET AS WELL.
UM, THE THREE MAJOR, UM, THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BUDGET, OUR HAULING COST, UM, OUR DISPOSAL COST AND OUR, UM, CALLS FOR HANDLING RECYCLABLES.
SO WE TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER, UM, ABOUT EIGHT POINTS THAT WE WANTED TO WORK TOWARDS, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE SOME PROGRESS.
UH, ONE IS TO CREATE AN ENTERPRISE FUND, UH, AS DAVE MENTIONED, UM, THE CALLS FOR YOUR SOLID WASTE PROGRAM IS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S FREE.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENTERPRISE FUND WHERE THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A FEE LISTED ON EACH TAX BILL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT FREE.
UM, IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE IS THE SAME CHARGES THAT WERE IN THERE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S JUST SEPARATED OUT SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT THE SOLID ALWAYS COSTS ARE.
WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON TRYING TO GET THAT IMPLEMENTED.
UM, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE PUT OUT AN RFP FOR CURBSIDE, UH, TRYING TO GET US AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IF WE DID.
COUNTY-WIDE, UH, WE'VE DECIDED TO DEFER THAT NAIL, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT OUR OPERATING, UM, OPERATIONS IN TOTAL
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AND THEN COME BACK AND WE WILL REVISIT, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO.SO IN DOING THAT, WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A CONSULTANT.
UH, ABBY GOLDSMITH DID A REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS AND OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS, AND THEN WESTERN AND SAMSON REVIEWED A REGIONAL APPROACH FOR SOLID WASTE.
UH, WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH THE GOLDSMITH REPORT AND WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL OF HER RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WHICH GOES ON TO, UH, NUMBER FOUR IS EVALUATE OUR CON CONVENIENCE CENTER USAGE.
WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL THINGS, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE.
WE, WE DID HAVE TO CLOSE TWO OF OUR CENTERS.
THERE WAS NO ROOM FOR EXPANSION.
AND WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR NEW DECAL SYSTEM, THERE WAS NO WAY TO PUT THAT IN.
SO OUR GATES CENTER AND OUR PRITCHER VILLE CENTER WERE CLOSED DECEMBER 31ST.
UM, THOSE RESIDENTS WILL GO TO NOW OUR BLUFFTON CENTER OR OUR SHANKLIN CENTER, AND THEN SOME OF THE SMALLER CENTERS THAT ARE OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS, UM, HAVE, UH, GONE DOWN TO THREE DAYS A WEEK.
WE TRIED TO ALTER THOSE SO THAT THE COVERAGE IS ACTUALLY ALL SIX DAYS.
WE CLOSE OUR CENTERS ON WEDNESDAYS FOR MAINTENANCE.
UM, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE PUT A FEW THINGS INTO PLACE.
THE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE WITH OUR CENTERS IS, UH, IN COMPARISON WITH OTHER CENTERS AND OTHER COUNTIES OR LIGHT COUNTIES, UH, WE'VE REDUCED THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 PM TO 6:00 PM.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT NOW SINCE, UH, WE'RE IN OUR SECOND MONTH.
UH, IT SEEMS TO BE GOING VERY SMOOTHLY.
UM, WE HAVE NOT DONE A FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DECAL SYSTEM.
UH, WE STARTED IT JANUARY 1ST.
WE HOPE TO GO TO FULL IMPLEMENTATION AT THE END OF MARCH.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR MATERIALS, RECOVERY FACILITY OPTIONS.
DAVE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE LATER.
UM, WE DID INCREASE OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS AS HE MENTIONED.
UH, WE ALREADY HAD ONE FULL-TIME, UH, ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
WE HAVE OUR TWO FOREMEN NOW THAT ARE BEING ABLE TO HELP WITH ANY ISSUES THERE AT THE CENTERS.
AND WE STILL HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE, UH, BEAVER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UH, ONE OF OUR ANOTHER INITIATIVES WAS TO TAKE ALL OF OUR COUNTY BLASTS TO THE NEW FACILITY THERE IN BUFORD GLASSWORKS, SOUTH CAROLINA.
UH, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING ON THE COUNTY END.
I THINK THEY ARE WAITING NOW TO GET APPROVAL FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT.
AND THEN OUR LAST WAS TO TRY TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER WASTE STREAMS. THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DETAIL LATER.
THIS SLIDE, UM, THIS, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL COMING UP, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS DEFINE WHAT THE FOUR WASTE STREAMS ARE.
AND I HESITATE USING THE WORD WASTE BECAUSE I THROW RECYCLABLES IN THERE ALSO.
UH, BUT SOUTH CAROLINA HAS THREE CLASSIFICATIONS FOR WASTE.
UH, CLASS ONE IS YARD OR VEGETATIVE WASTE.
UH, IT'S BASICALLY LAND CLEARING DEBRIS.
IT'S IT'S, UH, BRANCHES, LEAVES, GRASS CLIPPINGS.
UM, IT'S ALL ORGANIC MATTER THAT MATERIAL SHOULD NOT BE GOING TO THE, UH, REGULAR, UH, SUBTITLE D LANDFILL.
UH, SO, UH, SANDY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHERE THESE PRODUCTS ARE GOING AND HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING US, BUT, UH, CLASS ONE IS VEGETATIVE WASTE.
CLASS TWO IS CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION DEBRIS.
UH, WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY CONSISTS OF IS INERT MATERIAL.
UH, I THINK THE BEST WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS IF YOU SEE A NEW HOUSE BEING BUILT OR A NEW BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, AND THERE'S A ROLL-OFF CONTAINER, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE PUT IN THAT ROLL OFF CONTAINER, IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, CUT OFF TWO BY FOURS, ROOFING, SHINGLES, UH, BLACK, UH, MATERIAL THAT REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO BEING RECYCLED PRETTY EASILY CLEAR THREE IS BASICALLY EVERYTHING ELSE.
THAT'S YOUR HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE.
UH, EVERYTHING YOU THROW AWAY, UM, IS DEFINED AS CLASS THREE THAT'S FAR AND AWAY, THE LARGEST WASTE STREAM THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE.
UH, ALL OF THAT GOES TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT HICKORY HILL, LANDFILL, AND JASPER COUNTY.
AND THE FOURTH CLASSIFICATION, I CONSIDER THIS MORE OF A RESOURCE RATHER THAN WASTE IS THE RECYCLABLE MATERIALS.
UM, THAT'S YOUR, UH, CARDBOARD GLASS, PLASTIC METALS.
UM, SO THOSE ARE OUR FOUR MAIN WASTE STREAMS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, STREAMS THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, ELECTRONIC WASTE E-WASTE, UH, TIRES, WHITE GOODS, UH, THEY'RE ALL COMPONENTS, BUT THE QUANTITIES ARE RELATIVELY SMALL.
SO JUST WANT TO DEFINE WHAT THE, UH, FOUR WASTE STREAMS WERE.
JUST TO CONCENTRATE FIRST ON OUR YARD WASTE AT OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS, THERE
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ARE CONTAINERS THERE THAT PEOPLE CAN BRING, UH, THEIR YARD WASTE.UM, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LIMIT THOSE TO NO MORE THAN ONE PICKUP TRUCK LOAD.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COVER THOSE LOADS WHEN THEY COME IN.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A LITTER ISSUE.
AND THEN FROM THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POOLS OF THOSE CONTAINERS AWAY FROM THE CENTERS AND OWN FOR DISPOSAL.
UH, THE TWO PLACES THAT WE GO OR OAKWOOD LANDFILL, AND WE DO USE, UH, SOUTH COAST LOGGING, UH, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY GRIND OUR WASTE AND SEND IT OFF FOR FUELS BLENDING.
MOST OF THE LARGER, THE STUMP LIKE MATERIAL WILL GO TO OAKWOOD AND MOST OF THE REGULAR YARD DEBRIS WILL GO TO SOUTH COAST.
UH, WE SPENT ABOUT 260,000 EACH YEAR FOR JUST HANDLING YOUR DEBRIS.
SO, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE DECAL SYSTEM, IF IT'S PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS, AND THEY'RE JUST DOING A LITTLE WORK AROUND THE YARD, THAT'S NOT USUALLY A PROBLEM.
UM, WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF ABUSE FROM CONTRACTORS, BRINGING IN, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL LOADS A DAY, INSTEAD OF THEM PAYING FOR THE DISPOSAL.
THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY PAID FOR THE DISPOSAL.
SO THE DECAL SYSTEM, WE HOPE WILL CURB SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY.
OUR CLASS TWO WASTE IS OUR CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION TO ALSO INCLUDES BULKY SESSION.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, AS DAVE MENTIONED, UH, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, UM, MATERIAL THAT WOULD COME FROM HOUSE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO BE IF YOU HAVE ANY BOLT FURNITURE, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WERE ALSO HAVING A LITTLE ABUSE HERE.
UH, CONTRACTORS IS SO MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO PILE UP THINGS INTO OUR CONTAINERS FOR US TO HAVE TO WORRY WITH INSTEAD OF GOING DIRECTLY TO THE LANDFILL.
SO WE DO HOPE THAT OUR DECAL SYSTEM IS GONNA, UH, CURB SOME OF THIS, UM, WITH THE BULKY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF BEAVER COUNTY AND YOU HAVE A COUCH, YOU NEED TO GET RID OF, YOU COULD BRING IT TO ONE OF OUR CENTERS.
HOWEVER, THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT COUNT IF YOU HAVE A VICTIM WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO EMPTY OUT A WHOLE, UM, RESIDENCE, UH, THAT NEEDS TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE LANDFILL.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE CALLS FOR DISPOSAL, UH, AND THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR CONTRACTORS BESIDES OUR CENTERS, WHICH ARE JUST SUPPOSED TO BE FOR RESIDENTIAL.
MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE IS WHAT WE THINK OF IS YOUR HOUSEHOLD TRASH.
UH, WE DO CURRENTLY USE HICKORY HILL LANDFILL.
WE'RE PAYING ABOUT $44 A TON FOR THAT WASTE.
WHEN IT COMES ACROSS THE SCALE, WE ALSO PAY FOR NOT ONLY THE WASTE, THAT'S GENERATED OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 10 HAULERS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY COME AND GET A PERMIT FROM US EACH YEAR.
SO WHEN THEY TAKE RESIDENTIAL WASTE TO HICKORY HILL, THE COUNTY IS ALSO PAYING FOR THAT DISPOSAL CHARGE.
SO WE USUALLY END UP WITH ABOUT $2.6 MILLION IN TOTAL COST TO HICKORY HILL EACH YEAR.
YEAH, I'LL TAKE THIS ONE TO RECYCLABLES.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.
UH, THE RECYCLABLES THAT WE COLLECT ARE CARDBOARD PLASTIC, MIXED METALS, GLASS, AND MIXED PAPER.
UH, WE GET ABOUT 4,000 TONS PER YEAR COLLECTED AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RECYCLABLES THAT ARE COLLECTED THROUGH THE VARIOUS SINGLE STREAM PROGRAMS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UH, SO IF YOU HAVE CURBSIDE SERVICE AND YOUR HOLLER PROVIDES A BIN FOR YOU WHERE YOU THROW YOUR RECYCLABLE MATERIALS IN, UH, THE 4,000 TONS PER YEAR NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE QUANTITIES.
SO THOSE QUANTITIES ARE BEING DELIVERED DIRECTLY TO, UH, WE HOPE WASTE MANAGEMENT MATERIAL, RECOVERY FACILITY, WE'RE GOING DIRECTLY TO MARKET, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE THOSE.
UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE SENDING ALL OF OUR RECYCLABLE MATERIALS THAT WE COLLECTED THE COMMAND CENTERS TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT MATERIAL, RECOVERY FACILITY, UM, AND JASPER COUNTY, WE'RE PAYING $58 A TIME.
UH, WE'RE ALSO PAYING PROCESSING CHARGES.
UM, WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO TAKE ALL THESE MATERIALS TO WASTE MANAGEMENT THROUGH JULY 30TH OF THIS YEAR.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND CINDY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LATEST NUMBERS ARE.
WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MILLION DOLLARS.
DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT FOR THIS PROGRAM? YES.
SO A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, TO COLLECT AND PROCESS 4,000 TONS OF RECYCLED MATERIALS IS, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY COST-EFFECTIVE SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS POSSIBLY CREATING OUR OWN MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN THE COUNTY.
UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT EVALUATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT DONE
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IN TIME TO MEET THE DEADLINE.UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ISSUING A NEW REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR THIS SERVICE.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO OTHER VENDORS.
UH, WE HOPE WASTE MANAGEMENT, UM, SUBMITS A PROPOSAL, BUT, UH, WE KNOW THERE'S OTHER VENDORS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST.
SO WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, REDUCE THOSE COSTS AND, AND INCREASE OUR RECYCLING PERCENTAGE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT, SEE HER GRAPHICALLY, UH, THE, UM, VERY DRAMATIC IMPACT OF THE CHINA SWORD POLICY.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, I GUESS IT'S AT FISCAL YEAR 17, 18, UH, THE STEEP RISE IN COST.
UH, THE GREEN LINE IS OUR ACTUAL COSTS.
THE BLACK LINE IS OUR BUDGETED, SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND IT.
WE'RE DOING GREAT FOR 16, 14, 15, 16, AND 17.
THEN THE CHINA SWORD POLICY HIT, WHICH REALLY RESTRICTED THE, UH, AS I SAID, THE COMMODITY IS GOING TO CHINA AND THE RECYCLING MARKETS PLUMMETED.
SO THE COST WENT UP TREMENDOUSLY.
UH, WE'RE PROJECTING OUR COSTS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
UH, SO IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE OPERATIONALLY WITH CONVENIENCE CENTERS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS PROGRAM AS THE NEXT HIGHEST PRIORITY, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS.
AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
UH, WHERE DO WE WANT TO BE? FIVE, 10, 25 YEARS? UH, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR, OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO MAXIMIZE OUR RECYCLING EFFORTS, BUT DO IT IN A COST EFFECTIVE MANNER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND INCORPORATE SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING.
UM, RIGHT NOW, JUST REAL QUICKLY RIGHT NOW THAT THE SYSTEM IS BACKWARDS.
UM, ALL RESIDENTS, RONALD RESIDENTIAL WASTE THAT IS COLLECTED IN BUFORD COUNTY GOES TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT LANDFILL AND IT'S PAID FOR BY BUFORD COUNTY TAXES.
AND AS CINDY SAID, OUR TIPPING FEES AROUND $44 AT A TIME.
SO IF A HOLLER IS COLLECTING RESIDENTIAL WASTE, HE TAKES IT TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT LANDFILL.
HE SAYS, IT'S FROM BUFORD COUNTY.
THE BILL GETS SENT TO YOU FOR COUNTY, AND WE PAY FOR THROUGH OUR TAXES.
IF THAT SAME HOLLER IS COLLECTING CURBSIDE RECYCLABLES, THEY TAKE THAT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT MATERIAL, RECOVERY FACILITY.
I THINK IT'S 160 TO $165 A TON.
SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUSLY HIGH COST TO THE HOLLER FOR RECYCLING.
AND WHEREAS WASTE DISPOSAL IS ESSENTIALLY FREE BECAUSE IT'S PAID FOR THROUGH OUR COUNTY.
SO SYSTEM IS BASICALLY UPSIDE DOWN AND WE'VE GOT TO KIND OF FIND A WAY TO MAKE RECYCLING THE MORE ATTRACTIVE OPTION.
AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL PLAN.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JASPER COUNTY AND CARLTON COUNTY HAMPTON COUNTY.
THEY'RE PART OF THE, UH, STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED BY WESTERN AND SAMPSON.
SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOME REGIONAL OPTIONS.
I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME GOOD PROGRESS ON NUMBER THREE.
UH, WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO CONVENIENCE CENTER SYSTEM, THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, SINCE WE IMPLEMENTED THE DECAL ARE LOOKING VERY GOOD.
AND, UH, W WE HOPE TO MAKE SOME MORE CHANGES AND NUMBER FOUR IT'S A, OR, OR BIG PICTURE GOAL IS TO INITIATE A ZERO WASTE, UH, PROGRAM.
IT'S A, A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN GETTING A LOT MORE, UM, POPULARITY, A LOT MORE MOMENTUM IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, PARTICULARLY IN A WEST COAST.
AND, AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO RETHINK A WAY THEY, THEY MANAGE THEIR WASTE, UH, RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT THINKING ABOUT IT AND THROWING EVERYTHING AWAY.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THE WASTE REGENERATE.
UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A LOT OF EDUCATION, A LOT OF OUTREACH TO TRY TO WAIT, TRY TO CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE THINK AND, UH, BE MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WASTE THEY GENERATE, WHICH WILL HELP US NOT ONLY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT OBVIOUSLY FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE.
AND CINDY AND I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR HEAR ANY COMMENTS AT YOUR HEAD.
THIS IS JERRY ASHMORE WITH PORT ROYAL.
I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DECAL IN FRONT OF THEM A LITTLE BIT.
I WANTED TO KIND OF DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I'M, I'M HAPPY AND PROUD TO SAY THAT, UM, THAT I HAVE MY DECAL DISPLAYED ON MY VEHICLE.
UM, I WAS ABLE TO DO IT QUITE EASILY FROM MY PHONE AND, UH, AND IT CAME IN THE MAIL A WEEK LATER.
AND ALSO THE SCHEDULE, THE CONVENIENCE CENTER SCHEDULES WERE IN, IN THAT CORRESPONDENCE AS WELL.
I'VE ACTUALLY GOT THAT POSTED ON A BULLETIN BOARD IN MY HOME FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S BEEN GOOD.
AND WHEN I GO TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER, IT'S BEEN FINE.
I KNOW, UH, PRIOR TO THIS ROLLOUT, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM SOME FOLKS TO THAT SPOT WHERE THEN CONSTITUENTS, THERE WAS SOME GRUMBLES ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S NOT SURPRISING.
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME GRUMBLES
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BECAUSE IT'S CHANGE AND IT'S DIFFERENT.BUT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, HOW HAS THE RESPONSE BEEN? HOW WAS IT GOING? WHAT TYPE OF COMMENTS ARE YOU RECEIVING? WHAT'S WHAT ARE YOU FINDING OUT THAT'S WORKING FOR YOU, WHAT'S NOT WORKING FOR YOU AND TELL ME THAT DATE AGAIN, AS FAR AS THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION, I THINK YOU SET A MARCH DAY AND COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT? UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM.
WE'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE WE DEVELOPED IT INTERNALLY.
UH, WE WORKED VERY, UH, HAND IN HAND WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT.
SO THE VERY FIRST ROLLOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF HIT AND MISS, AND I GUESS, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE WERE SOME DELAYS, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT, THAT WASN'T DONE A LINE ON THE POSTCARDS.
A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WAS VERY POOR.
UM, WE HAD ANTICIPATED OUT OF, UH, THE TAX OFFICE, GAVE US A RESIDENTIAL COUNT OF ABOUT 92,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
AND WE KNEW FROM THE DATA THAT WE GET FROM THOSE PERMITTED CURBSIDE HAULERS, THAT THERE'S ALREADY ABOUT 57,000 HOUSEHOLDS IN BEAVER COUNTY, THAT RECEIVED SERVICE.
SO WE KIND OF FELT LIKE WE WERE LOOKING AT A POPULATION FOR DECALS OF ABOUT 35,000.
UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY, IF YOU HAVE CURBSIDE, YOU COULD NOT GET THEM DECAL.
SO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WHERE WE'VE ISSUED A LITTLE OVER 38,000 DECALS.
WE ARE DOWN TO THE LAST ABOUT 1500 THAT WE ARE HAVING TO MANUALLY GO THROUGH, CALL PEOPLE.
A LOT OF THEM ARE AIR PROPERTIES.
SO YOU MAY HAVE A MULTIPLE RESIDENTS ON ONE, UH, PARCEL OF LAND.
UM, I HAVE TO ALWAYS CONGRATULATE ANGEL MARCENE KOWALSKI'S, SHE'S MY BUSINESS MANAGER, AND SHE WORKS NONSTOP EVERY DAY.
WE ARE HOPING THAT WE ARE TO THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
I CAN SEE THE LIGHT FLICKERING JUST A BIT.
AND, UM, WE HOPE TO HAVE A FULL IMPLEMENTATION BY MARCH 31ST.
UM, BEST I KNOW THAT'S DELAYED.
WE HAD HOPED JANUARY 1ST, OBVIOUSLY THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
UH, THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS OUR ATTENDANCE AT OUR CENTERS.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO TRAIN THEM ON HOW TO USE THE SCANNERS AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH CONFLICT.
SO WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE GROUSING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, DON'T, WE WANT IT TO BE AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE.
SO OUR ATTENDANCE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM FOR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL PROBABLY SUPPORT, I GOT EXCITED WHEN I OUT MY CAL AND MY WIFE THOUGHT THAT WAS A LITTLE STRANGE, BUT IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE THAT EXCITE ME.
AND I DID, I DID POST THIS ON MY COUNCIL, MY GERIATRIC, YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE, JUST TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE Y'ALL DOING THIS AND MOVING IT FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
CAN I GO AHEAD? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, MS. CARTER AND ALL HER STAFF.
UH, I, SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS WERE VERY UNHAPPY ABOUT THE GATE CLOSING, EVEN THOUGH WE'D HAD SOME MEETINGS AND WE'D HAD SOME INFORMATIONAL THINGS TO NOW.
UM, I, I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHAPPY MIGHT BE WILLING TO GO TO CURBSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T DONE A SURVEY OF THAT, BUT THEY LIVE IN AN UNINCORPORATED MORE DENSELY POPULATED PART OF THE COUNTY.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT IS, UH, THE CITY AND TOWN, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEIR CONTRACTS ARE RENEWED.
I LIVE IN THE CITY FOR, UH, FOR CURBSIDE PICKUP, BUT I WOULD HOPE WE COULD WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY ON THE RECYCLABLES, ESPECIALLY THE GLASS, HAVING THE CITY AND THE TOWN HAVE THERE, IF WE COULD SOMEHOW HAVE THE GLASS DELIVERED TO GLASS WORKS, AND THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST YARD WASTE, UH, CITY OF BUFORD STILL ALLOWS YARD WASTE TO BE PUT IN PLASTIC BAGS, WHICH MEANS I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO HICKORY HILL.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED, UH, SO THAT WE COULD PUT YARD WASTE IN THE PAPER BAG.
SO IT COULD BE, UM, TAKEN SOMEWHERE BESIDES HICKORY HILL AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN THE CONTRACT.
SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY OF BUFORD.
UM, THE, THE PLASTIC BAGS OF HAVE BUGGED ME FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
I, I LIKE TO PUT MY YARD DEBRIS AND TRASH CANS, UH, AND THEN SET IT OUT BY THE CURB THINKING THAT I I'M LIMITING PLASTIC WASTE IN THE, IN THE STREAM.
AND I GOT MY WRIST SLAPPED LAST YEAR FOR USING GARBAGE CANS INSTEAD OF GARBAGE BAGS.
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THE CITY OF BUFORD I'M TOLD OUR CONTRACT COMES UP WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF.UH, WE WILL PUT IT OUT FOR RFP.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER THE PLASTIC BAG ISSUE, UH, AMONG A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER OF OTHER ISSUES.
UH, BUT CONTINUE TO SAY THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL OR THE COUNTY, IF THERE'S A MORE EFFICIENT WAY THAT WE CAN GET WASTE OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THE APPROPRIATE EITHER RECYCLING STREAM OR LANDFILL, UH, WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN, HOW WE CAN DO THAT TOGETHER, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S JUST A TREMENDOUS COST THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNTY STAFF FOR, WITH GLASSWORKS.
I THINK IT'S A REMARKABLE FACILITY OUT THERE THAT AS THEY COME ONLINE IS GOING TO HELP US AND HELP PROVIDE REALLY GREAT JOBS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OTHER BROADER COMMUNITY PROBLEMS AROUND THERE, AROUND THE REGION, LONGTERM, UH, HAVE YOU, AND YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH OLIVER'S CLEAN BURN, UH, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM GLASSWORKS.
THEY'VE GOT A SMOKELESS INCINERATOR WHERE THEY CAN TAKE A TREE AND YARD DEBRIS, UH, HEATED AT HIGH TEMPS TO BURN IT OFF.
UH, AND IT CREATES FROM A HOMETOWN, A A HUNDRED POUNDS OF DEBRIS.
IT TAKES IT TO LIKE A POUND OR TWO POUNDS OF POT ASH THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO USE.
AND, UH, AGRICULTURE, A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMERCIAL USES.
UH, I CAN, I CAN SAY THAT ONE, CINDY AND I BOTH TALKED TO WALTER OLIVER, UH, GREAT OPERATION, UH, VERY FAMILIAR WITH HIS AIR BURNER CURTAIN, UH, INCINERATOR, UM, GREAT TECHNOLOGY.
UH, THE ONLY CONCERN IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE YARD DEBRIS THAT'S GENERATED THAT WE MANAGE IS IT COMES FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND OR BLUFFTON, AND JUST THE HAUL TO GET IT TO BOULDER.
WILDER'S, UH, CLEAN BIRD IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S A PRETTY LONG HAUL TO GET THERE.
SO, UH, WE WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE'RE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONSIDER HIM AS AN OPTION.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, AS CINDY MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO MANAGE OUR, UH, CLASS ONE WASTE OR A VEGETATIVE WASTE, COMPOSTING, ALL OF OLIVER'S CLEAN BURN.
I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY A ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVE.
AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVING FORWARD TO FUTURE ALL OF THE YARD DEBRIS NORTH OF THE BROAD RIVER, JUST BECAUSE OF THE HUMBLING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY INCORPORATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH, UH, OLIVER'S CLAIMER, BUT, BUT SOUTH OF THE BROAD, JUST, IT JUST MAY BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO HAUL IT THAT FAR.
I APPRECIATE YOU AND I, AND CINDY AND DAVID, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR HAVING US.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I HAVE A QUESTION.
CHERYL DAWSON, DAVE OR CINDY, AS WE PREPARE FOR THE, UM, OUT OF THE DECAL SYSTEM, UM, ON A PERMANENT BASIS NOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING LEADING UP TO THAT, TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, TO ADVERTISE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT COME MARCH, WHATEVER THE DATE WAS, THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO FULL FLEDGE NOW, THE DECAL SYSTEM, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC OF THAT DEADLINE? I CAN TAKE THAT WE HAD AN INTERNAL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NUMEROUS PRESS RELEASE INFORMATION AS WELL AS INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THE THING THAT'S MOST, UH, WELL-RECEIVED IS ACTUALLY AT EACH CENTER, THE LITTLE SANDWICH BOARDS, WHERE WE ADVERTISE OUR EVENTS FOR LIKE TRONICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE FIRST LINE THAT PEOPLE SEE BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT CENTERS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE THREE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON.
WE'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE UP OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
WELL, HAVE YOU GIVEN THOUGHT TO PERHAPS SOME TYPE OF LITERATURE THAT THE ATTENDANT MIGHT HAND OUT TO ALL THE CITIZENS THAT VISIT THE CENTERS? YES, SIR.
I, I THINK THAT'LL, THAT'LL GO A LONG WAYS IN EDUCATING EVERYBODY THE PUBLIC AT LARGE AS TO DEADLINE APPROACHING SO THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, REALLY INFORMATIVE, UH, APPRECIATED.
IT'S ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK, UH, ALL OF US HAVE HAD ABOUT, UH, UH, ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, APPOINTMENT OF KERNEL TRIAL.
UH, I'M NOT SURE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY, BUT, UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A, UH, NOMINATION AND
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A VOTE.MR. CHAIR, WE APPOINT COLONEL WJ, TRUE ACTS ASSISTANT CHIEF OF STAFF OF MCRD PARRIS ISLAND, AND COLONEL HARVICK ASKED COMMANDING OFFICER MCSP COOPER TO THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE TO ASSIST IN OVERSEEING THE MILITARY INSTALLATION RESILIENCE REVIEW STUDY.
I SECOND THAT NOMINATION I'LL GET THE NOMINATION OF THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE NOMINATION? I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE A CLOSER TIE BETWEEN OUR MILITARY COMMUNITY AND OUR, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, I'M VERY, AGAIN, APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STUDY AND PARTICIPATE WITH THE
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAYING FIVE FIBER RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND, ANY OPPOSED, UNANIMOUS.
UM, COLONEL, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE TO THE COMMUNITY? I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.
THE PRESENTATION IS STILL UP ON THE BOARD.
IF SOMEBODY COULD TAKE THAT DOWN, WE COULD, UH, SEE THE MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UH, IS THE COLONEL ON OR NOT? I DON'T SEE HIM.
UH, BARRY RYAN IS FROM THE AIR STATION.
MAYBE SHE COULD LET US KNOW IF HE'S ON OR NOT.
UM, I'M THE WC FILL OUT THEIR STATION.
IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S ON, HE MIGHT HAVE SOME HAVE STEPPED OUT OR, UM, BUT I BELIEVE HE'S GONE LOOKING VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ON, ON THE TEAM FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, I THINK TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TO HAVE, UH, SOME FIRSTHAND COMMENTS, UH, AT THE TABLE.
UH, I'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND, UH, I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE UP FRONT MY EYES BECAUSE OF MY ALLERGIES ARE REALLY BAD.
SO, UH, YOU MAY BE HAVING TROUBLE LOOKING AT ALL THIS STUFF, UH, BUT, UH, THE FIRST, AND I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE ACTION ITEM PRIORITY LIST, AND THEN I'LL REFER BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS SINCE THE PRIORITY LIST IS NUMBER ONE.
SO NUMBER ONE ON OUR PRIORITIZATION LIST IS THE, UH, UM, IS THE REVIEW OF THE, UH, NERVE MANDATE AND PLANNED THE RESOLUTION.
AND I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, UH, EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, UH, THIS WITH THEIR STAFF, HAVE SOME MEETINGS.
AND THEN, UM, UH, AND THEN GET BACK TO THE GENERAL GROUP.
IS THAT MOVING FORWARD? WELL, IF THE CITY OF BUFORD I'VE SENT THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN OUT TO, TO COUNCIL AND TO OUR, UH, LEAN STAFF AND THE CITY ASKED THEM TO REVIEW IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER DOWN AND WE'LL NEXT TUESDAY WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION TO FILL THE SEAT THAT I VACATED WHEN I WAS ELECTED MAYOR.
UM, I DO THINK THAT FIFTH PERSON, UH, DESERVES THE RIGHT TO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
SO I APOLOGIZE IF THE CITY IS STALLING THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT, UM, BUT, UH, THE FIFTH MEMBER WILL BE SEATED ABOUT MID-MARCH, WE'LL GO INTO STRATEGIC PLANNING AND LATE MARCH IN TERMS OF THE CITY.
AND I INTENDED TO PUT THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE AS A WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM, IF NOT LATE MARCH WOULD BE THE FIRST EVENT FIRST MEETING IN APRIL.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HOLDING ANYTHING UP AT ALL.
UH, BEAR, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION ON, UH, HOW THEY'RE DOING WITH THIS LET'S OUT OF PORT ROYAL, TRY TO MATCH THE CITY'S SCHEDULE.
SO STEVEN AND I'LL WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, CLOSE THE LOOP TOGETHER RIGHT AROUND THE SAME TIMEFRAME.
I KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE, UM, RON MERCHANTS LOOKING AT IT FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, HE AND I HAVE HAD SOME BRIEF DISCUSSIONS.
SO ROBERT, ARE YOU ON? WELL, IN A NUTSHELL, THEY'RE UNDERTAKING A REVIEW AS WELL, AND THEY CAN AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AS THEY MOVE FORWARD TO UNDERSTANDING THE REGIONAL
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GROWTH BOUNDARIES IN THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE NORTHERN REGION.ROB SAID, HE'S ON, BUT IN A CHAT EARLIER, HE'S HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
WHAT ABOUT ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH THIS? NO, MAYOR, MAYOR MOORE IS NOT HERE, BUT I, WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE REGIONAL PLAN AND THINKING ABOUT GROWTH BOUNDARIES AND, UH, JUST REGIONAL GROWTH IN NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A CHAIR, IF IT'S JOE AND I, UH, BUT IT, IT MIGHT BE WORTH TRYING TO INCLUDE JAMASZI, UH, IN ANY KIND OF UPDATE OR, OR PLANNING EFFORTS, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR, THEIR ANNEXATIONS AND THEIR DESIRE TO GROW.
THEY SEEM TO HAVE A VERY PROACTIVE, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON STAFF NOW.
UM, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF REGIONAL, REGIONAL, UM, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY FURTHER CONVERSATIONS, JUST FOR HISTORY.
AND GERALD DAWSON PROBABLY REMEMBERS THIS TOO.
THEY WERE INVOLVED BACK WHEN WE JUST BACK WHEN THESE WERE DISCUSSED BACK 2006, I THINK THE CROSS-BOUNDARY SO ABSOLUTELY THEY SHOULD BE INVOLVED.
AND, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, ALSO WE ACTUALLY HELD, I THINK THERE WERE TWO PAINTINGS.
WE ROTATED THIS MEETING AROUND A LITTLE BIT BACK THEN, AND WE ACTUALLY HELPED TO MEET UP IN THEIR FACILITY AT THE BEGINNING.
ALSO, STEVEN, MAYBE YOU AND I COULD TAKE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM, GO DRIVE UP THERE, SPEND A DAY AND SEE IF WE CAN TO THE GROUP.
FIRSTLY, I'M TOLD FLETCHER'S IS CLOSED.
SO NO MORE AMAZING CHICKEN SALAD TO FIND A PLACE TO EAT.
HI, IF I MIGHT CHIME IN GUYS, UM, YEAH, WE NEED TO GET, UM, WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET, UH, YAMMER SEAT SEATED, SEATED AT THE TABLE HERE.
UM, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY INITIATING THE ANNEXATION, UM, MY TEAM, UH, JUST LAST WEEK, TWO WEEKS ALREADY AND ANOTHER, UH, UH, TWO MORE PROPERTIES, TOTALING, ABOUT 1500 ACRES OF LAND, UM, AND THE NORTHERN PART OF, UH, OF, UH, BEAVER COUNTY OVER IN MY DISTRICT.
AND SO THIS ANNEXATION, I DON'T SEE THAT STOPPING ANYTIME SOON, SO WE NEED TO HAVE THEM SEATED AT THIS TABLE, SHARING THEIR GROWTH PLANS AND GROW BOUNDARIES AND THE ANNEXATION IN PANTS.
UM, SO THAT WE WON'T BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, YES.
ROB, I HAD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
MY AUDIO IS NOT WORKING AND OKAY.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING PRESENT EARLIER.
I DID, UM, HAVE SOMETHING I WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE NORTHERN IMPLEMENTATION INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT OF THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'RE, WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, ADDRESSING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY'RE ADOPTED THE, UM, PLAN CALLS FOR RE UM, REDRAWING, THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES IN THE LADY'S ISLAND AREA, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT, THAT WE TAKE UP ANY OTHER REVISIONS TO THE INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING ONCE BEFORE THE, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
ROB, I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT SUGGESTION, I THINK IT'S, THEY ALL SORT OF DOVETAIL TOGETHER.
UM, SO I I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF US FOR DUSTIN ALL THAT OFF AT ONE TIME.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, HEARING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
UH, THAT'S THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT I'VE DONE HERE AND WHAT I WILL DO IN THE FUTURE IS I'LL, UH, SHOW A, UH, A LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR BOTH THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE LADIES ISLAND, UH, UH, TASK FORCE FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO, UM, I WILL, I WILL DO THAT.
ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO ADD ON HERE IS THAT, UH,
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UM, THERE HAS BEEN A CHAIRMAN NOW, UH, APPOINTED TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE CPC THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, UH, WITH THEIR FIRST MEETINGS COMING UP, UH, UH, PROBABLY, UH, THIS MONTH IN THE NEXT MONTH.AND, UH, I'VE MET WITH JASON HENSHER, WHO IS THE NEW CHAIR FOR THAT CPC.
AND WE'VE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT, UH, HIS AGENDA WILL START OUT LOOKING LIKE.
UH, AND, UH, SO THAT SEEMS TO BE MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK WE'LL GET A LOT OF ENERGY, UH, AND, UH, A LOT OF INPUT, WHICH IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED RIGHT NOW FOR, UH, THE LADY'S ISLAND, UH, BY AN IMPLEMENTATION AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, TASK FORCE THAT'S, UH, UH, PUTTING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE FROM THE BOARD? I, I DON'T SO MUCH HAVE A QUESTION AS A, AS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UH, AS, AS INFORMATION.
UM, I WANT TO THANK ROB MERCHANT FOR THE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL TASK FORCE.
HE'S BEEN LEADING, UH, TO CREATE THE PHIL ORDINANCE AND THE RISING SEA LEVEL OVERLAY ORDINANCE, AND THE SEWER DENSITY ORDINANCE, WHICH THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE, THE SEWER DENSITY ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT THE FILL ORDINANCE AND THE, UH, OVERLAY ORDINANCE ARE JUST NOW BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF COMING THROUGH THE CITY AND COUNTY, UH, COUNTY COUNCILS.
AND I GUESS ON THE COUNTY, YOUR, YOUR COMMITTEE, UH, PROCESS, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, UH, DEVELOPERS SORT OF REACH OUT AND PUSH BACK ON THOSE ORDINANCES.
UH, THE CITY PASSED AT FIRST READING OUR FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE THIS PAST TUESDAY NIGHT, WE WILL HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA IN TWO WEEKS.
UM, AND WE ARE WORKING TO TRY TO RECONCILE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE, THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN FILL ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN CREATED BY THAT JURISDICTIONAL TASK FORCE AND, UH, OUR STAFF'S FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE.
AND I THINK THERE'LL BE A, A GOOD COMPROMISE IN THAT, BUT THE CITY INTENDS TO PASS THE ORDINANCE, UH, IN, IN THE COMING WEEKS.
AND I'M GOING TO GET THE FILL OVERLAY OR THE RISING CLL OVERLAY ALSO ON OUR AGENDA.
SO I'LL JUST ENCOURAGE OUR COUNTY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE FLOWING THROUGH YOUR COMMITTEE PROCESS, UH, ONTO YOUR COUNCIL PROCESS, UH, AND WALK MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE MOVING, UH, AND IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME ADVOCACY WORK AS, UH, SOME FOLKS WITH, WITH SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT INTEREST, UH, MAY NOT BE HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT THESE ORDINANCES ARE GONNA, UH, PUT ON THEM.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE ORDINANCES, UH, COMING BEFORE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, THE BEAVER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION ON MARCH 1ST.
ALSO, WE'RE ADOPTING BOTH OF THOSE, UM, AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE RATHER THAN OUR FLOOD ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT THAT SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD, GOING TO NATURAL RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, IN APRIL AND THEN ONTO COUNTY COUNCIL.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, REACHED OUT TO, UH, THE BOARD OF REALTORS TO, UM, HOME BUILDERS.
I, WE ARE ANTICIPATING A LETTER FROM THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, UM, THAT WILL BE, UH, INTO OUR, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT WE'RE AWARE OF SOME OF THE PUSHBACK AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING, WE FEEL THAT WE VETTED IT FAIRLY THOROUGHLY AND HOPEFULLY CAN TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO APPLY TO THE VERY, VERY LOW LYING AREAS AND REALLY APPLY TO LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE AREAS.
THANK YOU, ROB STEVEN, STEVEN, STEVEN, ARE YOU, AS IT SHOWED YOU OR MIKE, YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION AS WELL.
DID YOU PASS THOSE AUDITS THROUGH THE MPC OR YOU'RE DEALING WITH THEM SEPARATELY BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING IT AS PART OF THE FLOOD? YEAH, SO I ASKED THAT QUESTION, UH, AT COUNCIL ON TUESDAY NIGHT, JOE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD GO THE MPC SINCE THE COUNTY WAS TAKING IT TO THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THE RESPONSE WAS BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF THE FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE AND NOT THE UTO.
UH, IT WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE MPC, UM, IF MPC MEMBERS OR OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT COME TO MPC, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION.
UM, I, I DO KNOW FROM A FEMA STANDPOINT, THERE IS A DEADLINE ON GETTING THE FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE PASSED, I BELIEVE BY THE END OF MARCH.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE ONLY WE SORT OF BACKED OURSELVES INTO A CORNER ON THE FLOOD PREVENTION SIDE WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT THING PASSED BY THE END OF THE MARCH.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T COME BACK AND ADD IT TO THE UTO, ESPECIALLY THE RISING SEA LEVEL LEVEL OVERLAY ORDINANCE.
THAT'LL BE A PART OF THE PART OF THE UDL.
SO IT CAN BE A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE THOUGHTFUL IN OUR PROCESS, AND IT REALLY SEEMS TO FIT INTO MORE.
SO MAYBE THIS CONVERSATION WE NEED
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TO HAVE WITH MULTIPLE PLANNING STAFFS AND SEE HOW WE WANT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.FROM THE MPC STANDPOINT, UH, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE, UH, WHERE EVERYBODY STANDS ON THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAYBE JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE VARIANCES ARE BETWEEN EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS AND HOW THEY'RE TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, UH, EACH OF THESE ITEMS. UH, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THE MPC TO UNDERSTAND THE VARIANCES THAT THERE MAY BE BETWEEN EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, JUST LASTLY, I'LL SAY THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE DEAL THAT WAS MADE WHEN THE LADY'S ARM PLAN WAS PASSED.
WAS IT THOSE THREE ORDINANCES WOULD BE EXECUTED AMONG THE JURISDICTIONS BEFORE WE HAD THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, CONVERSATIONS, ANY DISCUSSION RELATIVE TO THAT? MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
UM, I AGREE WITH WHAT IS BEING SAID, AND I WAS HALTED DETERMINING ALL THE ENTITIES INVOLVED THAT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE I AM VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, UM, PARTICULARLY ON LADIES.
SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL ENTITIES INVOLVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, AND IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEM TO KIND OF LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON IT TOGETHER.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX.
AND THE ONLY ITEM THAT I HAVE HERE IS IN OUR LAST MEETING, UH, WE WERE SAYING THAT THE MAYORS ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT COME UP AT A COMBINED MAYOR'S MEETING SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT AT ALL? CERTAINLY THE MAYORS HAVE, UH, HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND ARE, UH, FORMULATING A JOINT MESSAGE BACK TO THE COUNTY ON WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LOSS.
WE ARE ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF GETTING IT TO THE CITIZENS AND ALLOWING THEM TO MAKE THE DECISION STEVEN YOU WANT TO ADD.
YEAH, SO I WOULD, UM, AGREE WITH EVERYTHING JOE JUST SAID, UH, WE'LL BE PROVIDING SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO THE COUNTY, UH, VERY SOON.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX PUT ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED A CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT THE IDEA OF A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR ONE ITEM LIKE THIS.
UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER BOTH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD WILL ALSO HAVE ELECTIONS FOR THEIR, UH, LEADERSHIP AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, WE BELIEVE THE TIME IS RIGHT TO GO AFTER A LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX TO NOT ONLY PROVIDE TAX RELIEF IN A TAX REBATE FROM OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE A NEW FUNDING SOURCE.
SO THE RESPECTIVE JURISDICTIONS, THE CITY OF BUFORD, IT'S GOING TO GO SOLELY TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.
UM, SO SOME MORE FORMAL COMMUNICATION IT'S COMING SOON, BUT, UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE FOLKS ON THIS CALL WOULD HELP ADVOCATE, UH, FOR A LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX WITH, WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES WHO SEEM TO BE IN LOCK STEP ON THE ISSUE.
AND I'M SORRY, THE TOWN OF CORAL ALSO HAS AN ELECTION 10 THIS NOVEMBER BALLOT.
UM, SO THE DEAL, THE ELECTION PROCESS IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
THE ELECTRIC COMMITTEE IS WORKING, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ADDING, UH, POLLING LOCATIONS.
SO DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY, UM, A DATE IN MIND OR A TIMEFRAME IN MIND, UH, FOR, UH, PASSING ALONG THE INFORMATION TO THE REST OF US AND OR TO THE COUNTY A LETTER IS BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW? UM, I I'M TOLD NOW, YOU KNOW, I'M THE NEW, I'M THE NEW MAYOR AT THE TABLE I'M TOLD THERE WAS A MEETING BACK IN OCTOBER, THE MAYORS AND JOE JUMP IN ON THIS.
UM, BUT THERE WAS A COMMITMENT BY THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME TO DRAFT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE AND TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THAT IT WOULD BE PUT ON THE BASS.
UM, SO ALL WE'RE GONNA DO IS SORT OF REINFORCE THAT POSITION, UH, THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET IT PUT ON BALLOT AND A COMMITMENT BY THE COUNTY THAT HAPPENED SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO TAKE A EDUCATIONAL EFFORT, UH, FOR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS AND HOW IT, THE MECHANICS OF A LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX WORK DIFFERENTLY THAN A CAPITAL PENNY.
YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SORRY.
WE'VE GOT A HAND UP, I THINK ALSO, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE ACTUALLY WAS A FIRST READING AND AN APPROVAL AND THEN IT DIED AFTER THAT, UH, AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING IT BACK.
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GLOVER.UM, UH, HELPED ME, UM, MAYOR'S, UM, UM, UH, PROCESS ALL OF THIS BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS REALLY LOOKING AT A, UM, A ONE SENSE, A CONTINUATION, UM, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 2022, UM, AND THE LOSS IS AGAIN A, UM, A PENNY SALES TAX.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 2 CENTS SALES TAX.
UM, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS REALLY, UM, IF WE WENT WITH THE LOSS IN 2021 AND THE COUNTY CAME BACK IN 2022, UH, WITH A CAPITAL PENNY SALES TAX, UM, WONDER WHAT KIND OF, UH, COMMENTS, THE CITIZENS WHO WAS GOING TO, UH, HAVE AT THAT TIME, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S 2 CENTS VERSUS IF WE DID IT ALL THE SAME TIME AND DID THE PROPER EDUCATION, UM, IT WOULD FLY, UH, WITH THE 2 CENTS HAVING IT DONE AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I NEED Y'ALL TO HELP ME PROCESS, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH A LOSS IN 2021, VERSUS DOING BOTH THE CAPITAL IN 2022 AND THE LOSS IN 2022 AND PROPERLY EDUCATING THE CITIZENS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE CITIZENS INTEREST FOR BOTH, UM, TO BE DONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, NOPE, BECAUSE WE'RE GLOBAL, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
AND HERE'S MY THOUGHT ON THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR ALL THE MAYORS, BUT WE EACH HAVE OUR THOUGHTS, BUT I THINK WE'RE PRETTY UNIFIED ON THIS.
IF YOU WERE TO DO THE LAST IN 2021, THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THAT REVENUE IS GOING TO BE COMING AND THAT'S IN PERPETUITY.
THAT'S NOT A SHORT-TERM, YOU CAN USE THAT AND REPLANT THEN THE CAPITAL, AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE ONE.
THE SECOND ONE SAID EITHER FOR ITS TIMEFRAME WHEN THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOCKING IN A LOSS FIRST, AND LAST IS GOING TO GIVE THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE MUNICIPALITIES, A CAPITAL POT THAT THEY CAN USE IT IN SLASH BORROW AGAINST.
SO BY SEPARATING THEM A LITTLE BIT, IT ALLOWS YOU TO PUT, EDUCATE THE CITIZENS, PUT IT IN PLACE, AND THEN REDUCE THAT CAPITAL ONE SENSE THAT YOU MAY NEED LATER ON.
PLUS, YOU'D BE ABLE TO FOCUS THAT ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS, IT ALLOWS THE MUNICIPALITIES TO HAVE ITS CAPITAL POT AND WORK AND WORK WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ADD OUR PROJECTS TO YOUR CAPITAL LIST.
AND THEN YOU HAVING TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM ON, TAKE THEM OFF AND PRIORITIZE THE MUNICIPALITIES CAN FOCUS ON THEIR OWN AND WORK.
SO THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE LOST WORK BY SEPARATING THE TWO, WHICH WAS THEN WE KNOW THAT FUNDING STREAM IS IN PLACE.
WE CAN PLAN PROJECTS OFF OF THAT FUNDING STREAM AND THEN LOOK AT THE BIGGER CAPITAL FOR THOSE REGIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SO MUCH LOCALIZED.
I AGREE WITH THAT, JOE AND COUNCILMAN GLOVER, I WOULD JUST ADD THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKE ABOUT LOST, UM, IS THAT SINCE ACT THREE 88 WAS PASSED IN 2008.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MILLAGE INCREASES, ESPECIALLY ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OPERATION SIDE, IT'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, UH, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY ON SIX PERCENTERS.
AND I THINK WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SIX PERCENTERS, WE GENERALLY THINK IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT IT'S ALSO OUR LONG-TERM RENTALS.
AND SO MANY OF OUR WORKING OR WORKING POPULATION, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING AT, OR BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, OR JUST ABOVE THEY'RE IN THESE LONG-TERM RENTALS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE 6% PROPERTY TAX GETS PUT A TREMENDOUS STRAIN ON THOSE PROPERTIES, AND THEN THOSE, THOSE RANGERS, UH, LOST PROVIDES A PROPERTY TAX CREDIT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT DIRECT TO THE RENTERS, BUT MY HOPE IS IT DOES PROVIDE SOME INDIRECT LONG-TERM RELIEF, UH, ON THE LONG-TERM RENTAL, UH, POPULATION.
UH, THE OTHER THING I THINK IT DOES IS THAT CAPITAL PHINEAS TYPICALLY LOOKED AT FOR MAJOR PROJECTS, $30 MILLION WORTH OF ROAD WORK ON LADY'S ISLAND, $180 MILLION ON HILTON HEAD FOR BRIDGES, BUT THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE A PILE OF SMALLER PROJECTS, SIDEWALKS, PARKS, UH, SOME ROAD ROAD REPAVING THAT I'M NOT SURE RAISED TO THE LEVEL OF BEING PUT ON A CAPITAL TENNY LIST.
SO THIS WOULD GIVE US AN ONGOING SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CONSISTENTLY ANNUALLY TACKLE THOSE, THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT MIGHT NOT, MIGHT NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BEING PUT ON THAT, THAT CAPITAL LIST.
AND I LIKE THAT 40 TO 50% OF THE PAINTING IS GOING TO BE PAID BY VISITORS, NOT BY LOCAL RESIDENTS.
UM, SO I I'D CERTAINLY WORTH A FURTHER CONVERSATION BETWEEN ALL OF US, ESPECIALLY AS WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO EDUCATE VOTERS ON WHY IT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
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WOULD APPRECIATE THEIR COMPANY'S CONTINUED SUPPORT.MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, JUST TO ADD TO COUNCILMAN GLOVER'S COMMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE OF THE ONES OF US ON THIS CALL AND THE ONES YOU NEED TO CONVINCE ON COUNTY COUNCIL.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SOME OF US UNDERSTAND THE NEED, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE TOWN AND THE CITY, BUT, UH, IT'S FEBRUARY.
AND, AND, AND IF YOU WANT US ON THE BALLOT, WE NEED SOMETHING ACTION NEEDS TO HAPPEN PRETTY QUICK.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT W WE AGREE, WE AGREE WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE TRIED VERY HARD LAST YEAR IN THE OCTOBER TIME FRAME TO GET IT ON, TO GET IT THROUGH AS A LOSS OF PAST THE CLO, THE 2021.
AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK AGAIN, JUST WANNA MAKE A LITTLE COMMENT.
UM, WE CAN GO AT OUR, OUR ANNUAL RETREAT.
UM, LAST MONTH WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, AND AN ENGINEER BROUGHT TO US A SORT OF A 10 YEAR, UM, PLANNING OF, UM, ACTIVITIES.
AND WE ASKED THEM TO GO BACK AND, UH, THEY COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO FUND PROJECTS.
AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS OF COURSE, UM, THE 1 CENTS OR THE PENNY SALES TAX IMPLEMENTATION.
SO WITH THIS, I THINK WE JUST PROBABLY NEED TO, UM, UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING IN 2021, LIKE I WOULD SAY IT JUST NEED TO BE NEW ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THAT STRATEGY OF HOW DO WE FUND ALL THESE PROJECTS OVER THIS TIME PERIOD.
AND HOW DO WE INCORPORATE LOSS AS WELL AS THE 1 CENT SALES TAX TO GET ALL THIS STUFF ACHIEVED? UM, I LIKED WHAT YOU SAID, UM, MEMORY THAT, UM, A THIRD OF THE COST WILL BE PAID BY OUTSIDE FOLKS.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
WE JUST NEED TO PUT IT IN, IN A, IN A PLANNING, UH, PLAN OR HOW WE FINANCE AND FUND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
THANK YOU, COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, EVEN IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT, I I'M PERSONALLY OKAY WITH THAT, RIGHT? I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO SUPPORT IT.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO PUT IT ON THE PILOT, TO SEE IF RESIDENTS WILL SUPPORT IT, RIGHT.
AND LET US, LET US WORK TO INFORM RESIDENTS AND LET THEM DECIDE, RIGHT.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY AND THE SAFETY.
I SAID, LET'S, LET'S PUT IT TO THE CITIZENS TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THIS ASPECT.
AND IF ANYBODY THAT WAS HERE WAS ALSO IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY AND HAPPENED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT.
AND IF YOU LISTEN HERE, THE SECTIONS ON THE HERITAGE AND THE RECONSTRUCTION ERA AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TOURISM IN THE AREA, SOCIAL, REMEMBER THAT THERE'S ALL THOSE PERSONS THAT COME.
SO YOU'RE BUILDING THE TOURISM BASE HERE.
YOU'RE COMING UP WITH WAYS THAT THEY CAN LEAD AND FUNDING PROJECTS TO BRING MORE TOURISM TO CAPTURE THOSE PEOPLE BETWEEN SAVANNAH AND CHARLESTON ARE TAKING DAY TRIPS TO STOP AND SPEND A DAY HERE.
AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL SPEND MONEY AND PARTICIPATE TO THIS LOSS PROGRAM.
WE JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO GET THE SENSE AND WE DON'T GET IT.
HEY MAN, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE A BIG, A BIG WINNER IN THE LOCAL AUCTION SALES TAX, UH, MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE ANNUALLY TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.
SO EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY ACROSS THE COUNTY WINS WITH THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX.
WELL, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL JUST GET UPDATES AND GIVE US A, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO VET, UH, BETWEEN EVERYONE, UM, ON THAT, ON OUR NEXT MEETING, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH, UH, UH, PUTTING IT OUT TOGETHER.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS, UH, THE UNIFORM YARD WASTE.
I THINK, UH, THE PRESENTATION PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT ON THAT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT AT ALL? HEARING? NONE I'LL MOVE ON, UH, THE, UH, UM, CURBSIDE PICKUP.
I THINK WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, WITH THE PRESENTATION.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT SEEING NONE? UH, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, UH, REGIONAL STORMWATER, UH, FUTURE COMPLIANCE AND, AND, UM, UH, SEPTIC TANK, UH, WITH LEIS ISLAND.
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ALREADY GIVEN US SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION EARLIER, UH, IS THERE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, REGIONAL STORMWATER? UM, I, THIS IS ROB MERCHANT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOW OFFICIALLY, THE COUNTY HAS ADOPTED THE NEW STORMWATER ORDINANCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT ISN'T THE INTEREST OF THIS COMMITTEE AT A LATER MEETING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT ABOUT MAYBE HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE COUNTY AND, UM, HOW THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE ADOPTED IT.
UM, WE'D BE GLAD TO SET THAT UP.
UH, RONALD, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND DOING THAT, UH, WE COULD PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH IF YOU WANT.
I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO, TO, TO PRESENT THAT.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WAS PATHWAYS AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, NOAH WAS, UH, GOING TO UPDATE US ON, UH, THE INFORMATION HE WAS GETTING IN COMMENTS.
UM, LIKE I WASN'T INFORMED THAT I WAS GETTING INFORMATION TODAY.
UM, SO I CAN GIVE YOU ALL A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE TASK FORCE AT THIS POINT, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I THINK LAST TIME YOU COMMENTED ON THE TASK FORCE THAT YOU WERE RUNNING, YOU SAID YOU WERE IN THE PROCESS OF RECEIVING COMMENTS.
SO I LEFT THAT ON AS A PLACE HOLDER FOR YOU.
SO, UM, LET ME JUST THINK BACK ON WHERE EXACTLY WE WERE THE LAST TIME THAT I UPDATED YOU ALL.
UM, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, FORMULATING A FIRST DRAFT PLAN.
UM, SO THE PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW OUTLINES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF THE TASK FORCE AND THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH TO PRIORITIZE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A PRETTY WELL FLESHED OUT DRAFT PLAN.
UM, I WORKING ON RE B WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON REVISIONS TO THAT DRAFT.
AND, UM, I WOULD, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T GIVE UP THIS DEADLINE AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK WE'RE TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM HAVING A FINAL DRAFT, UM, AVAILABLE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON IT IN SOME KIND OF PHYSICAL FORM TO COMMITTEES.
UM, I REALIZE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT EXACTLY WAS SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, NOR DO I RECALL THAT I PUT A FEW ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
UM, SO ROB, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING, I THINK YOU GOT IT RIGHT.
UM, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD A DRAFT PREPARED AND WE WERE RECEIVING COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE AND SEND OUT YEAH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF INCORPORATING ALL THOSE CHANGES AND, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
I THOUGHT I GOT THAT TIMELINE.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE STILL IN THE REVISIONS STAGES.
UM, BUT IT'S MOVING ALONG AND I THINK WE'LL GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO START, UM, SHARING THE DOCUMENT FOR FOLKS TO GET SOME INPUT, UM, QUESTION FOR YOU, HOW THE LADY'S ISLAND TASKFORCE, UH, IS, UH, DEALING WITH SOME PATHWAYS, UH, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT.
OTHER THING, IS THERE A WAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DOVETAIL INTO WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE IS SPRANG TO ACCOMPLISH? UM, YEAH.
I MEAN, SO PENNY PROJECTS THAT WERE RETIRED RECENTLY ARE NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED COMMITTED IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND SO ANY, ANY FURTHER 1 CENT SALES TAX PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT PRIORITIZED IN THAT FIRST LIST OF, I THINK 14 OR SO,
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WE ARE INCLUDING IN THIS PLAN AS, AS HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS.I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW YOU ALL ARE, UH, YOU'RE PART OF THOSE COMMITTEES.
SO YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, THERE'S NOTHING FINALIZED, BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, WITH EACH OF THOSE.
AND WE'RE COORDINATING THOSE, OF COURSE WITH THE, UH, ACCESS ROAD, UH, AND, UH, ACCESS ROADS AND 21, UH, FROM THE ENGINEERING STANDPOINT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION, UH, RELATED TO PATHWAYS? YES, GO AHEAD.
UM, SO NOW I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE KNOW THAT THE PATHWAY SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE 2018 1 CENT SALES TAX VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE ON MARCH 15TH FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
I WOULDN'T MIND IF YOU WOULD SEND ME A COPY OF THAT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, THE AGENDA IS CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
I THINK WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THAT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE CONVENIENCE CENTER SEEING NONE WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE, UH, WHICH WAS PLASTIC BASE.
AND, UH, WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME THAT THAT'S JUST REALLY GOING TO BE WHAT OFTEN TILL COVID.
UH, AND I DON'T, IS THERE ANY OTHER UPDATE ON THAT? OKAY.
SEEING DONE, UM, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, UH, THE IDENTIFICATION CONSOLIDATED REGIONAL VERSUS COMMUNITY PARKS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT ROB WAS GOING TO SEND OUT A MASTER LIST.
UH, WE'VE TALKED THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
I HAD NOT SEEN ANYTHING, SO I DON'T KNOW ROB, IF HE SENT ANYTHING OUT OR NOT, UM, THE, THE AGENDA HAS THESIS ATTACHMENTS.
UM, DID YOU ALL RECEIVE THE OTHER MEMBERS OR RECEIVE A THERE'S A SPREADSHEET OF CAR AND THEN TWO MAPS.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO SHARE SCREEN AT THIS POINT, I CAN DO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WALK THROUGH WHAT WE DID OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE, TO THE BOARD.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PREFERENCE OF THE BOARD.
WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT? I'LL JUST DO A REAL QUICK WALK THROUGH AND JUST SHOW YOU WHAT WE DID.
UM, BEAR WITH ME AS I, AS I GET THESE UP ON THE SCREEN.
SO WHAT WE DID, UM, AND THIS IS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO, UH, 2007, WHEN WE ADOPTED OUR NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, I THINK WE PROVIDED A COMPREHENSIVE INVENTORY OF PARKS.
AND SO I WENT TO THAT INITIAL LIST AND AN UPDATED, AND A GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'VE MADE QUITE A FEW CHANGES, UM, IN ADDITIONS TO OUR PARK, UM, INVENTORY, BUT, UM, TRYING TO CATEGORIZE THEM.
AND I REALIZED THAT A LOT OF TIMES THINGS DON'T NEATLY FALL IN A CATEGORY, BUT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE CATEGORY ARE POCKET PARKS.
THESE ARE SMALL PARKS AND SQUARES PRIMARILY.
UH, THEY, THEY TEND TO BE MUNICIPAL IN NATURE, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL CITY BUFORD.
THESE ARE SLIGHTLY LARGER AND TEND TO HAVE FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, SMALL LIMITED FACILITIES THAT SERVE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK A GREAT EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE WASHINGTON STREET PARK, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SMALL PICNIC PAVILION, RESTROOMS, PLAYGROUND AREA, BASKETBALL COURT, UM, MOVING ON OUR, UH, COMMUNITY PARKS EAST TO KIND OF SERVE A LARGER COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, DRAWING THIS DISTINCTION IS DIFFICULT, BUT IF WE LOOK AT, UM, BAZELL GREEN, UH,
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IN THE PIGEON POINT NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S SOME NUMBER OF BALL FIELDS THAT SERVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND ACTIVE RECREATION.YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE COME FROM OTHER PARTS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PRACTICE OR PLAY GAMES IN THAT AREA, WE PUT SOUTH SIDE PARK IN THAT CATEGORY.
AND THESE ARE CERTAINLY ALL UP FOR DISCUSSION REGIONAL PARKS.
THIS WAS KIND OF A DIFFICULT KNOW, OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL? YEAH.
ALSO SOMEBODY IS DOING A LOT OF TYPING IN THE BACKGROUND, MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
DID THEY GO OVER THAT IS COMMUTE THEMSELVES.
THE, THE, UM, THERE HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IN THE COUNTY, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ENGINEERING DIVISION AND, UH, ERIC GREENWAY THAT THE NAVAL HERITAGE PARK SHOULD NOW BE RECLASSIFIED AS A REGIONAL PARK, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION ERA, DEPORTERS CHAPEL BEING MOVED THERE, THE, THE, THE, THE MARKET THAT HAPPENS WEEKLY THERE AND SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, UM, THEY PROBABLY HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO YOU YET.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT, THAT THERE HAS BEEN A PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION AND EVERYBODY KIND OF AGREED THAT THAT PARK IS NOW MOVING TO A REGIONAL, UH, CLASSIFICATION.
AND I GUESS THAT'S, UM, OFFERING THIS AS A STARTING POINT OF DISCUSSION, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE INPUT THAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET AND, AND KIND OF RETHINK THIS LIST BECAUSE HE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A REGIONAL PARK? SOMETIMES THAT'S HARD TO DEFINE.
AND SO WE HAVE FOUR VERY DIFFERENT PARKS IN THAT CATEGORY, BURTON WELLS, THE WATERFRONT PARK HUNTING ISLAND, EVEN THOUGH THAT THAT'S A STATE PARK AND NOT REALLY PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, IT REALLY SERVES A REGIONAL, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, STATEWIDE OR NATIONAL, UH, PURPOSE, AND THEN SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL, BUT IT REALLY IS A REGIONAL DRAW.
UM, WE CREATED A NEW CATEGORY AND THIS REALLY HAS TO DO WITH, UM, THE, THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM TAKING OFF PASSIVE PARKS AND PRESERVES.
AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THERE'S SEVERAL ON HERE THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED, LIKE WHITE HALL, UM, THE PINE VIEW TRACT ON LADY'S ISLAND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL KIND OF IN THE PLANNING STAGES.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PORT ROYAL, CYPRESS WETLANDS, CRYSTAL LAKE PARK, FORT HERITAGE PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KIND OF AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, THAT THESE ARE ALL TEND TO BE PASSIVE IN NATURE AND SOMETIMES HAVE SOME SORT OF HISTORIC, UM, YOU KNOW, SITE INTERPRETATION OF HISTORIC SITE.
AND IT FINALLY, WE LISTED ALL THE BOAT LANDINGS AND FISHING PIERS.
SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF THE DISCUSSION IS WHICH ONE OF THESE HAVE MORE SERVE MORE REGIONAL PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT COST SHARING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY A THINK THIS LIST HELPS KIND OF LAUNCH US IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, THERE'S ALSO TWO ACCOMPANYING MAPS THAT SHOW THE LOCATION OF ALL OF THESE.
UM, IF YOU WISH, YOU KNOW, OR WANT ME TO BRING UP A MAP OR EVEN A QUESTION ABOUT A PARTICULAR PARK, I CAN DO THAT GREAT LIST.
IT WAS EXCITING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND ADD ALL THESE NEW PARKS THAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, PLACES LIKE CRYSTAL LAKE AND FORT FREDERICK.
IT'S NICE TO SEE THEM ALL IN ONE SPOT.
I WOULD OFFER ANOTHER SUGGESTION IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS SEPARATING THE SANDS BEACH AND THE, A BOAT LANDING AND MOVING THE SAND BEACH OUT TO PASSIVE BOX PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THERE, THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT SEPARATED THERE AND ESPECIALLY MAINTENANCE AND OWNERSHIP.
I THINK IT JUST FITS WELL WITH THE WAY YOU LAID THIS LIST.
NOW THERE'S NOTHING PASSIVE ABOUT THE SAND BEACH.
WELL, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT.
IT IS, UM, I, UM, UH, KUDOS TO YOU AND WHOEVER ON STAFF WITH THIS THING TOGETHER AS IT IS A DATA NERD, I THINK IT'S SO AWESOME TO SEE EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE IN THE MAPS THAT ARE COMPANION IT'S, IT'S SUPER COOL.
UM, I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, MAYOR DEVITO'S REQUEST TO MOVE.
UH, THEY WILL HERITAGE WORK, UH, TO A REGIONAL COURT BECAUSE THE GUY WHO LIKES TO USE THE FARMER'S MARKET AND SEE MY FRIENDS FROM ALL OVER NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY, THEY'RE ON A PRETTY SATURDAY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PINPOINT WORK, UH, INSTEAD OF BEING LISTED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY PARK COME UP TO THE GUY WITH TWO SEVEN YEAR OLDS.
UM, WE GO OUT THERE AND SEE FRIENDS FROM LADY'S ISLAND OR FROM BURDENS FROM ALL OVER ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
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TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PIGEON POINT BORDER BIRTHDAY PARTIES.SO IT'S BROADER THAN JUST A USER'S POINT.
AND I PROVIDE MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
KIDS FEEL THAT THAT IS THE BEST PLAYGROUND IN BUFORD COUNTY OR AT LEAST IN OUR PART OF THE COUNTY.
SO DEFINITELY AS A COMMUNITY DRAW ON SUPPORT BOTH MYERS RESPONSES, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET SOUTH SIDE, GIVEN PIGEON POINT A RUN FOR ITS MONEY.
THREE BIRTHDAY PARTIES AT PIGEON POINT.
ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, WE HAD TO LEAVE TO ANY OTHER CHILDREN.
UH, AND UH, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A WAY TO COMMUNICATE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND TOURISTS WHEN THEY COME INTO TOWN, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS, UH, WOULD BE A GREAT, UH, A GREAT THING HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
UH, JUST WANT TO COMMENT, UM, MAYOR MURRAY AND, UM, AND I WAS, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE PLANS FOR THE SOUTH SIDE PARK THAT Y'ALL WORKING ON THAT AND STUFF.
SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT 60 DAYS WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU IN 60 DAYS.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROB, IF THERE'S NO OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
UM, AGAIN, UH, THE OTHER ITEM, NEXT ITEM, NUMBER 11, CONSOLIDATED FIRE SERVICE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, AFTER, UH, THE LAWSUITS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE ON THAT AT ALL OR NOT, NO UPDATE.
ALSO MIGHT JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW YEAH.
IF WE CAN DETACH YOUR LIST TO THE AGENDA, CAUSE I I'VE SEARCHED TWICE NOW I CAN NOT FIND THE LIST THAT YOU'RE READING OFF OF.
UM, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT OUT AS UNDER SEPARATE COVER, BUT WE'LL GET THEM BOTH SENT OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, THE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM WE REMOVED UTILITY POLLUTION APPRECIATE, UH, JOE'S INPUT ON THAT.
I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
SO, UH, WE'VE SHOWN THAT AS A, UH, UH, AN ITEM THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, UH, THE DIRECTION OF, UH, GROWTH, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND COORDINATED MASTER PLANS.
UH, DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM, UH, UH, THE TOWN AND THE CITY, UH, ON THOSE IN THE COUNTY? I CAN GO AHEAD REAL QUICK WITH THE COUNTIES.
UM, WE CURRENTLY RECEIVED A DRAFT, UH, W YOU KNOW, WE CAN ENGAGE THE CONSULTANT DESIGN WORKSHOP, AND WE RECEIVED A DRAFT FROM THEM SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND WE WERE METICULOUSLY GOING THROUGH AND, AND MAKING STAFF CHANGES BEFORE WE RELEASE IT, EVEN INITIALLY TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WORDING AND DIRECTION OF THE DOCUMENT.
BUT, UM, WE'RE STILL ANTICIPATING SOMETIME IN THE MARCH TIMEFRAME OF COMING FORWARD TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AT A SPECIAL WORKSHOP TO DO, UH, KIND OF AN UNVEILING AND WALKTHROUGH OF THE DRAFT PLAN AND THEN BEGIN A PUBLIC REVIEW.
UM, AND WE'RE ALSO HOPING TO TARGET PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHRIS MARSH, UH, QUEEN QUESTS, UM, YOU KNOW, PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION TO GET SPECIFIC INPUT, UM, OF DIFFERENT INTEREST GROUPS AND KEY PLAYERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING TO BEGIN THAT PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
UH, IF YOU MIND LETTING ME BE A FLY ON THE WALL TO LISTEN IN ON THAT, AND I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
YEAH, WE'LL BE, IT'LL BE, UM, ADVERTISED AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE YOU.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN MARCH, IF YOU KNOW, OR, OR, OR APRIL EARLY APRIL AT THE LATEST WE'LL, WE'LL BEGIN TO UNVEIL THIS.
UH, DAVE, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE CITY? YEAH, WE I'M JUST ABOUT FINISHED INCORPORATING THE LATEST STRATEGIC GOALS INTO THE GOLD LIST.
ALSO, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE POPULATION, THE LAND USE AND THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENTS.
SO HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE A DRAFT KIND OF A, SO THE COUNCIL CAN HAVE KIND OF A FIRST LOOK AND DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AT THEIR RETREAT.
SO THEN, THEN I CAN THEN SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY ELSE IF THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL START SENDING IT OUT.
UM, DEFINITELY SEND IT OVER TO ROB AND, AND, UH, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND EVERYONE
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TO GET THEIR COMMENTS.I KNOW, UM, ALICE HAS ASKED IF SHE'S INTERESTED IN ALICE.
I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN IT JUST, HASN'T GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE IT'S WORTHY OF SENDING IT OUT YET.
SO, AND DAVID, DID YOU GET THE COPY OF MY COMMENTS? I HAVEN'T.
UM, MAYBE, UH, WHEN I COME OVER TO GET TOGETHER WITH YOUR STAFF ON THAT OTHER MASTER PLANNING EXERCISE, UH, MAYBE WE COULD GO OVER IT THEN, UH, GIVE ME A CALL AND SEE WHEN WE CAN SET IT UP ON THE SCHEDULE THEN.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, PORT ROYAL HAS MOVED FORWARD PROBABLY MORE COMPLETE THAN ANYBODY WITH, UH, THEIR, THEIR PLANNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD GIVE YOU A, UM, AN UPDATE, GIVE THE GROUP AN UPDATE.
UM, HAVING THE SAME CONSULTANT AS A BEAVER COUNTY DESIGN WORKSHOP, WE DO HAVE OUR DRAFT.
UH, THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE HAS RECEIVED THAT AND ARE BEGINNING TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND, UH, PREPARE COMMENTS TO GO BACK TO THE CONSULTANT.
UH, ONE OF THEIR FIRST, UH, THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEES, UM, FIRST PIECES OF FEEDBACK WAS THEY WERE A BIT DISAPPOINTED IN THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THAT WE HAD GARNERED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THAT EFFORT CAME OUT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID.
AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, WE WERE ALL SLOWED DOWN BY THAT.
UM, AND WHAT MY TECHNICAL COMMITTEE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO DO WAS TO PUSH IT OUT ONE MORE TIME.
UM, SO IT, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD JUST CLOSED OUT ON FEBRUARY 19TH.
SO OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE THAT, UH, THOSE ENHANCED, THAT ENHANCED PUBLIC, UH, UH, UH, PARTICIPATION, UH, THEY'RE FOLDING IT IN.
UM, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE AND THE CONSULTANT ONCE AGAIN, GET BACK TOGETHER PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
AND, UM, BEGIN AGAIN TO REVIEW, OF COURSE, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, AND ARE AWARE WE WILL BE TAKING IT TO THE METRO, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT'S OUR NEXT OFFICIAL STEP.
UM, AND ALONG THE WAY, WE WILL, UH, BEGIN TO SHARE IT NOW WITH, UH, OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
UH, MIKE, I KNOW THAT, UM, LINDA WILL BE, UH, NOT HAPPY WITH ME FOR THIS, BUT, UH, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BE LANDON'S LAST MEETING WITH THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN.
AND SHE HAS DECIDED TO TAKE ON THE SECOND HALF OF HER LIFE AND DO SOME FUN THINGS.
UH, SO WE, WE CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS PARTICIPATED IN THIS GROUP SINCE ITS ORIGINAL DAY, LINDA HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR THIS GROUP THAT HAS HELPED US ORGANIZE AND GET THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED TO MAKE DECISIONS.
AND I THINK THIS GROUP, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN THERE A WHILE.
WE CAN'T THANK HER ENOUGH FOR WHAT SHE'S DONE.