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THE ONE I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE, UH, MARCH 24TH, 2021 STAFF REVIEWED TEAM MEETING TO ORDER, UH, THE STAFF REVIEWED TEAM IS NOT AN OFFICIAL BODY THAT IS LISTED IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THEREFORE, ANY DECISION THAT IS MADE, UH, THROUGH THIS BODY IS NOT APPEALABLE.
THE ONLY APPEALABLE DECISIONS THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THE CDC OR THREE WRITTEN APPROVALS OR DETERMINATIONS FROM MISS HILLARY AUSTIN IN HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR OR MYSELF AS THE OFFICIAL PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR, WHICH THE CDC MAY ALSO REFER TO AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR JUST DIRECTOR ANY WRITTEN DETERMINATION, OR APPROVALS OR DECISIONS FROM THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE THE ONLY THINGS REFERENCED IN THE CDC THAT ARE APPEALABLE AND SRT IS NOT REFERENCED AT ALL IN AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE STAFF REVIEW TEAM MEETING IS FOR VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY STAFF TO MEET AFTER REVIEWING VARIOUS DOCUMENTS AND PLANS THAT ARE SUBMITTED BY DEVELOPERS OR ENGINEERS FOR A DIALOGUE BETWEEN THOSE DEVELOPERS AND ENGINEERS AND THE STAFF TO ADDRESS COMMENTS, TO WORK OUT ISSUES AND TO PROVIDE CLEAR INFORMATION AS A PATH FORWARD TO ASSIST THE ENGINEERS AND DEVELOPERS WITH THEIR CONCEPTUAL AND THEN FINAL PLAN APPROVAL OR THEIR PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS.
HAVING SAID THAT WE'LL JUMP INTO OUR FIRST ITEM THAT HAS A LOT OF HISTORY HERE.
WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
NOW THAT IT'S GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF APPROVALS AND REVIEW TODAY, WE ARE TAKING UP THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE ORCHARD CODE CAMP GROUND.
THIS IS LOCATED ON CALABASAS WASI DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY HAS OWN T TO R T TO R BY THE ADMISSION OF LEGAL COUNCILS ON ALL SIDES, UH, DOES ALLOW FOR OUR PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND AS YOU'RE PERMITTED USE.
I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING DUST TODAY, THAT THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT A PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND BEYOND ALLOWED, AND THIS IS THE OWNING DISTRICT.
WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
EVERYONE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT EVEN THE COUNCIL FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE BRINGING IN THE VARIOUS APPEALS, UH, TO AGAINST THE COUNTY STAFF FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS CAMPGROUND.
SO ONCE WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT ALL THE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THIS CAMPGROUND, THE CAMPGROUND HAS, HAS TO BE APPROVED.
THERE IS NO WAY TO PREVENT THAT FROM OCCURRING.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, UH, TYPICALLY WE'LL GO AROUND THE ROOM, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AROUND THE GRID ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN AND ASK FOR INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS.
AND I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE ROOM, UH, WHERE YOU SEE SEVERAL STAFF, PEOPLE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, NANCY MOSS TO BEGIN PROVIDING ANY COMMENTS THAT SHE MAY HAVE.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS, JUST PLEASE STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS.
I WAS WONDERING IF I COULD ASK ONE THING YOU REFERENCED THE STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, THAT THE PLAN NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE THAT ON AND WHO MAYBE WATCHING OUTLINE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED IN 7.2 POINTS, I'M GOING TO DO THAT.
UM, AS AFTER I GET THROUGH EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS, I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO, I'M GOING TO THEN SHARE THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS APPEAL, THE SUMMARY OF THOSE PREVIOUS APPEALS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SRT HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE AND TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED, OR DO NOT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE CDC AND ARE OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I WILL SHOW THOSE IN JUST A MOMENT ON MY SCREEN.
GO AHEAD AND, AND SEE IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UH, MY CONCEPTUAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
AND SO, UM, FINAL WHEN THEY COMPARE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, MAKE SURE THAT THE 30 FOOT BUFFERS HAVE THE BIG CHOIR PLANT MATERIALS, UM, SO THAT YOU HAVE AN OPAQUE
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BUFFER AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.HILLARY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT? UM, FOR CONCEPTUAL ADVICE? JUST DON'T.
ROB MERCHANT, AS THE, UH, INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND I HAVE NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UM, LET'S GO TO YOU TAN OR UN KATIE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US WITH THE, UH, BUFORD COUNTY STORMWATER DEPARTMENT, KATIE.
DON'T GET TO SEE YOU TOO OFTEN.
SO, UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU TANNER A UNK, DDI.
WE ANY COMMENT FROM STORMWATER FROM CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL.
KATIE DOES HAVE A FEW COMMENTS REGARDING ONE OF THEIR, UH, MEANING THEIR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THEIR STORMWATER BMPS THAT SHE WANTED TO HAVE ADDRESSED.
I'LL LET HER ADDRESS THOSE TO THANK YOU.
UM, JUST A FEW THINGS ON, CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE IN POSSESSION, THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, UM, I'VE FLAGGED THREE AREAS THAT I'M GOING TO SEND BACK TO Y'ALL TO ADDRESS, BUT JUST TO BRING IT UP IN THE MEETING.
UM, IF THE PARKING SPACES ON THIS MAP ARE MEANT TO BE PERVIOUS, THEY'LL NEED TO BE LISTED ON PAGE TWO.
UM, ON PAGE THREE OF THE DOCUMENT, THE LAND OWNER IS JUST SUPPOSED TO SAY KENNETH S TOSKI.
SO WHAT DOES THAT K AND OUR DEVELOPMENTS LLC NEEDS TO BE CROSSED OUT HERE.
AND THEN ON THE RESOLUTION OF DIRECTORS FORM, THE NAME WRITTEN IS KEN S TOSKI AND NOT KENNETH.
SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT ON ALL DOCUMENTS.
SO I'M GOING TO BE SENDING THIS BACK TO, UM, MISS JENNIFER WITH WARD EDWARDS FOR THESE TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FROM HERE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY CONCEPTUAL STORMWATER HAS THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
I'M MICHAEL BRANTLEY WITH BUILDING AND CODES.
I KNOW YOU DON'T, UH, THERE'S NO VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION HERE, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL? NO, I HAVE NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UM, I DO KNOW YOU'VE BEEN VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THIS FROM THE BEGINNING, UH, DAN AND HAD SOME COMMENTS INITIALLY, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS WITH BUFFED AND FIRE HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED FOR YOU ALL GOOD MORNING, SIR.
ALL OF OUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED FOR CONCEPTUAL.
VERY GOOD JOB WITH THE EMAIL THE OTHER DAY, UH, REGARDING, UH, Y'ALL'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE FIRE ACCESS, UH, REQUIREMENTS, HILLARY, UH, LET ME COME BACK TO YOU AND ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, ENCROACHMENT PERMITS FOR DDOT.
I DO NOT THINK THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DLT, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION HAS REVIEWED THE, UH, CURB CUTS AND THE ACCESS FOR THIS PROPERTY AND HAVE ISSUED THE APPROPRIATE ENCROACHMENT PERMITS.
SO I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN NOW AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IF IT'S OKAY WITH ANYONE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR ME BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION REGARDING THIS ISSUE? AS I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND HEAR IT, ALL COMMENTS FOR CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NOW IS SHARE MY SCREEN AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY WALK THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL REQUIREMENT FOR A PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND AND THE ITEMS FROM THE PREVIOUS APPEALS TO GET AN AFFIRMATIVE, AFFIRMATIVE DETERMINATION OR GET COMMENTS REGARDING EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO JUST BEAR WITH ME JUST A MOMENT.
SO, UH, CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT ON YOUR SCREEN? I CAN'T SEE ANYONE.
I CAN KIND OF SOMEONE LET ME KNOW.
Y'ALL CAN SEE THAT WORD DOCUMENT.
UM, THIS IS FROM SECTION 4.1 0.198 RECREATION FACILITY FOR CAMPGROUNDS FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR BUFORD COUNTY SAYS CAMPGROUNDS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE FOLLOWING PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS AND CAMPGROUND ACCESSIBLE.
I WALK IN EQUESTRIAN MOTORIZED TRAIL VEHICLES OR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WHERE BASIC FACILITIES MAY BE PROVIDED FOR THE COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE OF THE CAMPERS.
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PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE FOLLOWING LENGTH OF STAY.ALL CAMPERS ARE LIMITED TO A 14 DAY LENGTH OF STATE HILLARY OR SOMEONE.
CAN YOU ALL TELL ME IF WE HAVE A STATEMENT ON THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL, THAT THAT PROVISION WILL BE COMPLIED WITH THAT ON THE SITE PLAN CALL, CAN YOU, OR ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT? I DO BELIEVE THEY LISTED THAT ON THE SITE PLAN.
WILLIE, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT FARMING? WE HAD AN EIGHT EGGS WILLY FROM WHAT EDWARDS IT IS WRITTEN IN OUR NARRATIVES AND OUR APPLICATION MATERIALS.
I DO NOT KNOW OR THINK IT IS WRITTEN EXPLICITLY ON THE SITE PLAN AS FINITE AS IN ALL OF OUR WRITTEN DOCUMENTS.
JUST SO IT'S CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, IF, WHEN I SAY SITE PLAN, I MEAN, IN THE PLAN DOCUMENT SOMEWHERE THAT THAT IT'S BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED AS A PARTISAN CONCEPTUAL PLAN DOCUMENT.
YES, IT IS IN OUR APPLICATION MATERIALS.
ALL RIGHT, HILLARY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING YES, IT'S IN THE IS.
SO ADAM, NUMBER TWO ZONES, PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS ARE ALLOWED AND SORRY ABOUT THAT.
PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS ARE ALLOWED AND THE T1 NATURAL PRESERVES ZONE AND ALL T TWO ARE TWO, TWO RURAL ZONES.
SO IF YOU ALL CAN SEE MY CURSOR, THIS IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, WHERE THE CAMPGROUND WOULD BE LOCATED.
THIS IS A ONE 70 CALLOW WASY DRIVE.
THIS IS THE CAMPGROUND PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE IN THAT YELLOW AREA RIGHT THERE THAT SAYS RURAL T OURS.
SO EVERYTHING IN THAT SHADE OF GREEN, INCLUDING THIS PROPERTY IS TWO, TWO R AND ADAM.
NUMBER TWO CLEARLY SAYS THAT PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUNDS ARE ALLOWED AND ALL TWO, TWO RURAL ZONING DISTRICTS, ADAM, NUMBER THREE, BUFFERS, ANY TOWN SITE SHALL BE LOCATED NO LESS THAN 30 FEET FROM ANY PROPERTY LINE HILARY, HAVE WE ENSURED THAT THAT PROVISION WILL BE MET? AND HAS IT BEEN LABELED AS A BUFFER? YES.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ON THE PLAN SHOWING WHERE THE 10 SITES ARE THERE OUTSIDE OF THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER.
NUMBER FOUR, NO RVS ARE CAMPING TRAILERS OVER 20 FEET IN LENGTH SHALL BE ALLOWED.
AGAIN, THESE ARE STRAIGHT DOCUMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION PREVIOUSLY, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN A FEW MOMENTS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT RV'S ARE ALLOWED IN A PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND.
CLEARLY RVS ARE ALLOWED AND CAMPING TRAILERS ARE ALLOWED AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT OVER 20 FEET IN LENGTH, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, PROPERLY MONITORED AND REGULATED.
IS THAT IN THE DOCUMENT OR THE APPLICATION SOMEWHERE? YES.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN EXHIBIT 20 FOOT CAMPER OR RV, WHATEVER THE LENGTH IS NO MORE THAN 20 FEET.
UM, FREE REQUIREMENTS, EXISTING TREES SHALL BE LEFT ON SITE WHEN PRACTICAL, IF THERE ARE NO TREES BETWEEN CAMP SITES, AT LEAST TWO TREES SHALL BE PLANTED IN BETWEEN EACH CAMP SITE.
HAVE WE VERIFIED WHAT TREES ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND MADE SURE THAT THOSE TREES INDEED CANNOT BE SAVED? AND HAVE WE VERIFIED THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO TREES SHALL BE PLANTED BETWEEN EACH CAMP SITE? WE DID LOOK AT THE TREE REMOVAL.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE LAYOUT TO SEE WHICH COUNTS SITES ARE GOING TO NEED TREES TO BE CONTACTED.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT IS, IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN OR REQUIREMENT OF CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL UNDER THE CDC IN YOUR OPINION? NO, IT'S NOT.
ACCESSORY USES FACILITIES FOR THE CONTRACTING CONVENIENCE OUTSIDE OF THE CAMPER MAY BE PROVIDED SUCH AS BATHING FACILITIES, FLUSHING, TOILETS, GRILLS, TABLES, FIRE PITS, FIRE CIRCLES, AND REFUSE COLLECTION THAT WE, UH, PROPERLY MADE SURE THAT THOSE FACILITIES, IF PROPOSED HAVE BEEN PROPERLY CITED THAT MEET BUILDING SETBACKS, THAT MEET ACCESS REQUIREMENTS AND THAT MEET ALL BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS FOR PRIMITIVE CAMP CAMPGROUNDS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BEFORE I MOVE TO THE NEXT SECTION, NICOLE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF YOUR CLIENT, UH, REGARDING THOSE PARTICULAR, NOT AT THIS TIME.
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SO THESE ARE THE ITEMS FROM THE PREVIOUS APPEALS THAT WERE FILED THE PRE THE, THE ON TIMELY APPEALS I'M, UH, I MIGHT ADD BECAUSE NO APPROVAL WAS EVER ISSUED FOR ANYTHING TO BE APPEALED.WE USE ISSUED WHAT WAS TERMED ON THE PAPER AS A CONDITIONAL CONSERVATIVE APPROVAL, BUT IN REALITY, IT WAS AN APPROVAL WITHOUT STANDING COMMENTS.
AND THE REASON WE DO THAT PERIODICALLY AT THE STAFF REVIEW TEAM IS TO KEEP CLIENTS FROM HAVING TO PAY THEIR ENGINEERS ARE TO SPEND THEIR TIME JOINING MEETINGS.
IF THERE'S ITEMS THAT CAN BE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED WITHOUT THE NEED TO, UH, CONVENE THE SRT AGAIN, TO REVIEW THOSE ITEMS. IF WE FEEL THAT WE ARE CLOSE ENOUGH ON APPROVALS, THEN MANY TIMES, UH, I, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SRT BODY AND ROB MERCHANT AS THE INTERIM, UH, CHAIRMAN, UH, SINCE I'M IN THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ROLE CURRENTLY, UH, WE WILL ALLOW MS. ALSTON TO FINISH UP THOSE COMMENTS AND ISSUE THOSE APPROVALS.
ONCE THOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED OR THE APPEALS WERE ON TIMELY, UH, THAT WAS, UH, UPHELD BY THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THAT ADAM IS NOW IN APPEAL, UM, UH, THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM, BY THE, UH, COUNSEL FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THESE ARE THE PREVIOUS APPEAL ITEMS, AND I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, SITE'S, IT'S NOT LABELED WITH THE INTENDED USE.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
IT'S A CAMPGROUND, UM, CAMPGROUND SITES ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR CAMPING, BUT DOES ANYONE HAVING ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO TO APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS THAT? I THINK I'M GOING TO PERFECTLY ADDRESS IT.
THEY LABELED THE AREA WHERE THE TENTS ARE GOING TO BE OKAY.
THEY HAVE LABELED, I MEAN, THEY'VE SHOWN THE ASIDES FOR WHERE THE CAMPER IS GOING TO BE.
I MEAN, I, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE THEY SHOULD DO.
THEY'VE LABELED THE LAUNDRY AND BATH HOUSE, THE CHECK-IN CENTER.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE THEY, THEY NEED TO SHOW.
CAN I ADD TO THAT? WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND EACH ONE OF THE CAMPSITES IS NUMBERED AND, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, THE NARRATIVE, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES SITES.
SO EACH CAMPSITE IS NUMBERED INDICATING WHICH TYPE OF SITE THAT IT IS.
AND THEN IN A NARRATIVE THAT'S MORE FULLY SLASH FLESHED OUT.
SO, UM, IT'S VERY, THERE, THERE IS DETAIL AS TO WHAT AND WHERE OF THE CAMPSITES ARE AND HOW MANY THERE ARE.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES.
SO DO WE DO ANYTHING WITH ADAM B IN THAT, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER DETAIL AS TO SIZE LOCATION DIMENSIONS? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF WE'VE LABELED WHERE THEY ARE, THE LOCATION IS DEALT WITH, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT SIZE AND DIMENSION AS ANYTHING THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THESE PROVISIONS UP HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S EVEN AN ISSUE, UH, THAT WOULD BE APPEALABLE, BUT, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT? UH, FOR ANYONE THAT'S ON THE REVIEW TEAM IS REALLY WHAT WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED EXHIBITS OF A TYPICAL CAMPSITE FOR BOTH THE GOLD STANDARD SITES ALONG WITH THE, UH, PREMIUM SLASH FLEX SITE.
SO THERE'S TYPICAL, UH, DETAILS PROVIDED FOR ALL TYPES OF CAMPSITES PER, UH, PROPOSED.
SO WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED ITEM NUMBER TWO, LENGTH OF STAY.
UH, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THAT IS LOCATED IN THE APPLICATION PACK, UH, DOCUMENTS FOR CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL.
I SAYS, BELIEVE A CONCRETE ENFORCEABLE PLAN TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE 14 DAY LENGTH OF STAY CONDITIONS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NARRATIVE AND ON THE FACE OF THE OVERALL SITE PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT.
UM, WE WILL NOT BE OUT THERE EVERY 14 DAYS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT, BUT WE WILL APPROPRIATELY ENFORCE AND EFFECTIVELY ENFORCE THAT PROVISION.
AND I DO NOT THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS ANY INTENTION TO VIOLATE THAT PROVISION.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL TO MAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE STATEMENT TO THAT, UH, TO THE SRT, IF SHE WILL.
ERIC, HAPPY TO, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, THE WAY THE RESERVATION SYSTEM WORKS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AS THAT NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A RESERVATION FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS.
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UM, AND THEREFORE, UM, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY.AND OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO EXIT THE, UM, THE SITE AT THE END OF THAT 14TH TODAY, UM, UH, THAT PORT DATES NIGHTS.
SO, UM, THERE WILL BE A METHOD BY WHICH THE OPERATOR CAN MONITOR, UM, WHO'S THERE AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF THEY ATTEMPT TO OVERSTAY THEIR RESERVATION, THE OPERATOR WILL DEAL WITH THAT APPROPRIATELY.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, 30 FOOT BUFFER IS NOT LABELED AS A, WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE IN PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR.
UM, IT SAYS THE REVISED AS
UM, THE ORDINARY STATE SAID RVS AND CAMPERS AND TRAILERS OVER 20 FEET ARE NOT ALLOWED.
SO, UM, THE LEPTINS TOOK A POSITION THAT NO RVS ARE ALLOWED IN A PRIMITIVE CAMP BROWN, UM, THAT IS VERY EASILY TO DISH PROVED BY THE VERY WORDING OF THE, UH, UH, THE PHRASE THAT RVS AND CAMPING TRAILERS ARE ALLOWED AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT OVER 20 FEET.
I MEAN, THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT.
I MEAN, I COULD BE, I COULD BE WRONG IN READING THAT, BUT, UH, DOES EVERYONE ON THE SRT AGREE THAT RVS AND CAMPING TRAILERS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS CAMPGROUND PROVIDED THEY DO NOT EXCEED, UH, 20 FEET? YES.
UM, APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME FOCUS ON BETWEEN EACH CAMP SITE WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS, THAT JUST THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS NOT A PART OF THE CONCEPTUAL PROCESS THAT WE WILL ADDRESS THAT ITEM WHEN WE GET TO FINAL PLAN APPROVAL LATER ON IN, AND, UH, THE PROCESS HERE WITH THE SRT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS ABOUT THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE? OKAY.
IF ERIC, IF I MAY ADD THAT, UM, THOSE CAMPSITE DETAILS THAT WILLIE REFERENCED EARLIER WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST BAG THAT WERE BORN, THAT WE WENT THROUGH ON THE, ON THE APPEAL LIST, UM, INDICATE, UM, IT GIVES AN EXAMPLE OF, OF, OF WHERE THE TREES COULD POSSIBLY BE AND, YOU KNOW, THE SOLIDIFIES, UM, THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS A REQUIREMENT AND THAT THEY HAVE EVERY INCENTIVE TO MEET IT.
SO ALTHOUGH THERE A LANDSCAPE PLAN IS NOT REQUIRED AT THIS POINT, UM, THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF IT AND EVEN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR CONCEPTUAL REFLECT THAT FACT THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT IT AND PLAN TO.
UM, ACCESSORY USES, UM, THEY SPECIFICALLY OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED POOL, PROPOSED POOL PROVISIONS AND PROPOSED BATH HOUSE AND LAUNDRY, AND THAT THESE DO NOT FALL WITHIN THE BASIC FACILITY AS LOUD AND PRIMITIVE CAMERAS.
UH, DOES ANYONE IN ON, ON THE, I'M SORRY, SOMEBODY WHO'S TALKING, CAN YOU, WHOEVER THAT IS.
CAN YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR MIC? THANK YOU.
UM, ACCESSORY USES, UH, ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON SR T THAT A POOL, A PRO UH, PROPOSED POOL PROVISION, A BATH HOUSE AND A LAUNDRY, OUR TYPICAL BASIC FACILITIES THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN ANY CAMPGROUND? I MEAN, THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE IS A REACH IN MY OPINION, BUT I'LL DEFER IT TO THE SRT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL AGREE THAT THOSE ARE CUSTOMARY ACCESSORY USES FOR CAMPGROUNDS.
EVERY CAMPGROUND I'VE STAYED IN, UH, HAS HAD SUCH FACILITIES AND PROBABLY ARE NECESSARY TO HAVE THEM IN ORDER TO STAY OPEN.
ERIC, IF I CAN CLARIFY, UH, SINCE THIS INITIAL WE REVISE THE PLAN, THEY'RE NO LONGER IS A PROPOSED POOL AND A PROPOSED POOL PAVILION.
UM, THE ONLY ACCESSORIES, RIGHT, UM, THAT ARE PLANNED AT THIS TIME, OR ARE COMBINED, UM, BACKHOUSE AND LAUNDROMAT FACILITY.
SO WE'VE TAKEN TWO OF THOSE ALL, BUT EVEN IF THEY WERE TO BE PUT IN, IN MY OPINION, UNLESS I HEAR SOME DISAGREEMENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN SRT, A POOL OR A POOL PAVILION IS A COMMON ACCESSORY USE FOR A CAMPGROUND.
I MEAN, EVERY, EVERY CAMPGROUND I'VE EVER BEEN TO, EVEN AT STATE PARKS, OR MANY OF THEM HAVE, UH, HOW POOLS AND PICNIC SHELTERS AND BATH HOUSES AND LAUNDRY FACILITIES AND CAMP STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST CUSTOMARY, UH, TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH A CAMPGROUND.
DOES ANYBODY DON'T SRT DISAGREE WITH THAT?
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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.UM, AND THEN THE FINAL TWO THINGS, UH, SAYS, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL MUST BE LIMITED TO DEEM NECESSARY TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE CDC SECTION.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GRASSED LACK OF FIRE MARSHAL APPROVAL.
UM, I WILL, UH, I WILL TELL EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE VERIFIED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT IN MY OPINION OF CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL, BECAUSE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS JUST THAT, IT JUST BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE CONCEPT OF THE CAMPGROUND, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT CAN PROCEED FORWARD AFTER THEY MEET CERTAIN CONDITIONS FOR CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL.
UM, AND AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, FOR THIS CAMPGROUND TO HAVE THEIR ACT SALES COMING OUT ON CALLAWAY WASI DRIVE.
UH, SO THAT ITEM IS NO LONGER APPEALABLE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT IN OUR FILES.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSES THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION.
I WILL LET DAN WILTSEY ONCE AGAIN, STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE FIRE MARSHALL HAS APPROVED THE LAYOUT AND THE SITE DESIGNED FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS.
IF YOU'LL DO THAT NOW, JUST SIR, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT AND WE HAVE APPROVED THE CONCEPTUAL FOR THIS.
THEN THE FINAL TWO ITEMS ARE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS PENDING BEFORE THE CDC REGARDING CAMP ROUNDS.
WHILE I WAS PENDING ORDINANCE DOCKER, NOT INVOKE, IT WAS NOT INVOKED BECAUSE IT NEVER RECEIVED FIRST READING BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE I NEVER COULD GET THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DEAL WITH IT.
PARTLY BECAUSE THE AGENDA, THE COUNCIL FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, KEPT ASKING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT TAKE THAT ITEM UP UNTIL THEY COULD MEET IN PERSON.
AND WE HAVE NOT MET IN PERSON FOR SOME TIME.
SO WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH THE PROPOSED CAMPGROUND, UH, AMENDMENTS.
IT WOULD NOT HAVE MADE AN ANY IMPACT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR CAMPGROUND WAS ALREADY WELL UNDERWAY WITH THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER HAD SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED THEIR POSITION BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS AT THE TIME.
AND I DO NOT KNOW THAT WE COULD HAVE MADE FORCED THEM TO COMPLY WITH THE AMENDMENTS ANYWAY.
SO, UM, THAT'S THAT ONE, DOES ANYONE ON SRT DISAGREE WITH THAT? ROB IS MY MEMORY CORRECT ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITEM? YOU ARE CORRECT.
WE MET IN PERSON AND WE ACTUALLY DID PROPOSE TO TAKE THIS UP IN DECEMBER.
WE DETERMINED AT THAT TIME WE WERE OPERATING TO MEET IN PERSON AND THERE WAS, SO THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA THAT WE WILL TRUST THAT ONCE WE HAVE IN-PERSON MEETINGS.
UH, UH, LEPTONS OF BOOK, SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN BELIEVED THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE APPLICATION OF CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL AS THE COUNTY KNEW THEY HAD HAD AN INTEREST IN IT? WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO A LOT OF THINGS FOR THEM.
THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT IN THE CDC FOR SRT, UH, AS A BODY, THERE IS NO PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR SRT.
WE DO THAT AS A COURTESY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
JUST LIKE THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT THAT WE BROADCAST THIS TODAY, BUT A GAMBLE CAUSES A GENERAL INTEREST.
WE DID THAT, UH, TODAY, BUT THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT AND THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE CDC FOR US TO DO SO.
THEREFORE, IN MY OPINION, OUR STAFF CAN NOT BE ON VIOLATION, UH, ARE IN ERROR AND ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARTICULAR COMMENT.
SO DOES EVERYONE AGREE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED ALL THESE ITEMS IN THAT PARTICULAR APPEAL? I DO EXPECT THAT WE WILL PROBABLY FACE OTHER APPEAL ITEMS MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THIS, BUT SO FAR, AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL APPEAL APPLICATION, DOES EVERYONE ON THE SRT AGREE? AND IF I DON'T HEAR ANY, UH, ANY, UM, DISSENSION OR ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY, UH, JUST, UH, NO COMMENT WOULD, UH, AND SILENCE WILL TELL ME THAT YOU ALL AGREE THAT THE STAFF HAS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED THESE ITEMS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT ON YOUR LAST POINT ABOUT THE NOTICE TO THE LESSON.
UM, THE PROPERTY WAS POSTED, UM, UH, BOTH FOR THIS SRP MEETING AND THE LAST SRP MEETING.
SO, UM, NOTICE WAS GIVEN THEY, I THINK THAT IS FROM WHEN WE GAVE CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL, WHAT THEY TERMED AS CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL.
AGAIN, WE'VE NEVER GIVEN CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL TO THIS, UH, CAMP BROWN AS A PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND, WE'VE GAVE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL WITHOUT STANDING COMMENTS.
I THINK THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE REFERRING TO THAT PUBLIC NOTICE BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE PUBLIC NOTICING ANY SRTS DURING THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT FOLKS TO THINK THAT THEY COULD SHOW UP, UH, AT THE COUNTY
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BUILDING TO PARTICIPATE IN AN SRT MEETING.SO WE DIDN'T, UH, TO OBSERVE, UH, AN SRT MEETING.
SO WE DID NOT POST IT AT THAT TIME.
THERE AGAIN, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT WE PROVIDE NOTICE, UH, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THINK A LOT OF THINGS, AS I SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NOTIFY THEM IF THEY'VE GOT AN INTEREST IN SOME, OR WE KNOW ABOUT THEIR INTEREST IN SOMETHING.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY HERE AS WELL, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO STAY ON TOP OF THEIR SIDE OF THE EQUATION.
AND IF THEY'VE GOT AN INTEREST IN, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH US, UH, JUST AS EASILY AS A WEEKEND.
OUR EXPECTATION FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, UM, IS JUST AS STRONG AS THEIR EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE GOVERNMENT, UM, CANNOT TAKE THAT TYPE OF RESPONSIBILITY IF THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN IT, IN MY OPINION, THAT STARTED DUTY AND THE DUTY OF THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO STAY ON TOP OF IT AND COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN.
AND THAT'S NOT A DUTY OF THE STAFF.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I DO WANT TO KNOW THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SRP AND THE PROPERTY WAS YEAH, IT WAS.
SO I WAS JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE BACKGROUND ON THAT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR OUR, UM, ON THE SRT, UM, FOR ASSISTING ME WITH THIS THIS MORNING.
UM, NICOLE, JENNIFER, WILLIE, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE ONE OUTSTANDING ITEM THAT YOU ALL NEED TO CORRECT FOR THE STORM WATER DEPARTMENT, ONCE YOU CORRECT THAT HILARY WILL ISSUE THE APPROPRIATE FORMS, UH, THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE APPROVAL FOR CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UM, APPROVAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, IS EVERYONE ON SRT, UH, IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, AND BY HEARING NO OPPOSITION TO IT, I WILL SAY THAT IT IS APPROVED, UH, WITHOUT EXCEPTION.
UM, OUR, MY COMMENT IS A PRE WITHOUT EXCEPTION, NOT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL IS APPROVED, UH, WITHOUT EXCEPTION AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING COMMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THAT APPROVAL IS ISSUE.
UM, I DON'T, THE STORMWATER STUFF IS NOT NEEDED FOR CONCEPTUAL IT'S NEEDED FOR FINAL.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WAIT ON THAT TO BE DONE, TO GIVE THEM OUR FINAL APPROVAL.
ONCE YOU HAVE DETERMINED THAT ALL OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS FROM CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL HAS BEEN SATISFIED UNDERNEATH THE CDC, THEN YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO ISSUE THE APPROVAL LETTER.
IF THE, IF THAT STORMWATER COMMENT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF A, OF A CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL AND, UH, I'M PERFECTLY OKAY, UH, PROCEEDING ALONG, WE DO NOT WANT TO THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER HERE HAS BEEN, UH, DELAYED, UH, BEYOND, UH, ANYTHING THAT I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED IN MY CAREER.
UH, AND IF WE, IF THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVAL, THEN WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND LET THEM SEE IF THEY CAN START MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR CAMPGROUND AS IS THEIR RIGHT.
UM, JUST AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING BACK IN FRONT OF THE SRP, PROBABLY MID APRIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR, TO DO THE OTHER ITEMS, UH, BROADCAST.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY ON AND BROADCAST THE SRT ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE END.
OR YOU MAY EXIT NOW THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THIS PORTION OF THE SRT MEETING, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE WANTS TO STAY ON AND WATCH A BULKHEADS AND BUFFER WAIVERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU ALL BROADCAST.
I THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS TODAY AND FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND FOR YOUR HARD WORK, UH, ON THIS CAMPGROUND, I KNOW IT'S BEEN CONFUSING AT TIMES, AND IT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF, A LOT OF COUNTY RESOURCES TO GET THIS THROUGH TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
BUT I DO THANK EVERYONE FOR DOING WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THIS.
SO, UM, I AM GOING TO LEAVE THE MEETING NOW, SO YOU ALL TAKE CARE, HAVE A GREAT DAY.
I WILL SEE YOU ALL THE NEXT TIME.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, BERKELEY HALL, LOT THREE 63 LANCASTER BOULEVARD.
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AND THIS IS COMING IN FOR FINAL.I HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION, AMANDA.
I JUST, I JUST TALKED WITH ASHLEY.
IT'S BEEN, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCREPANCY IN THE NARRATIVE, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT'S ON THE PLAN THAT THERE HAS A HUNDREDS OF 16 INCHES OF TREES TO BE REMOVED, AND IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY 41 INCHES.
UM, AND SO I THINK IN THE PLAN, UM, AMY HAD PUT BACK SEVEN INCHES OF PER, IS THAT RIGHT? ACTUALLY SEVEN, SEVEN AND A HALF.
AND SO DOING THE MATH, UM, THEY WOULD, OH, $1,820 INTO THE TREE FUND.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE AND EVERYTHING WAS, WAS FINE WITH ME.
UM, BUT THAT WAS JUST THE ONE DISCREPANCY IS, UM, SO, UM, ASHLEY, IF YOU COULD REDO THIS, UH, UH, NARRATIVE INSTEAD OF BACK AND THEN, UM, THE CHECK FOR $1,820 TO THE BIG CREDIT CARD.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? UM, I DO, UM, THEIR ACCESS ROUTE IS ON THE ADJACENT BLOCK, WHICH IS ONLY TREE.
AND SO WE DON'T NORMALLY ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMISSION LETTER.
WELL, HILLARY IT'S, YOU NEED THOSE.
THEY'RE GOING TO DAMAGE THE TREES, GETTING TO THE WORK ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.
AND WE NEED TO SEE THAT OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET INTO IT WITHOUT YOU NOTICE ANY INJURIES.
DO YOU NEED A, A PICTURE OR DO YOU NEED A DRAWING? WE HAVE THE DRAWING, BUT THERE'S NO TREES IN THE ACCESS POINT.
THEY SHOW THE DRUMMER SALARY, BUT THERE'S NO TRUE SHOW, BUT IT'S LIKE AERIAL SHOWS WE THREE SURVEYS SHOWING THAT DRAW A GRADUATE IS GOING TO BE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE ATTORNEYS.
SO WE SURVEY THE NEIGHBORS A LOT AND THEN CHILL TREATING TOPO AND THE NEIGHBORS LOT AND DO FULL ACCESS, STAY OFF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND USE YOUR OLD PARCEL TO GET ONTO YOUR BULKHEAD.
IT WAS REVISE THE DRAWING TO SHOW WITH ACCESS ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? TANNER, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STORMWATER? UH, NO.
ROBBIE, THEY ADDRESS ALL THE STORM WATER COMMENTS FOR THIS ONE.
SO I GUESS JUST, JUST GO TO
THERE'S SOME SMALL TREES WE'D HAVE TO REMOVE OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER ZONE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THEY WERE WORKING FOR US AS WELL.
THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO GO AROUND THE TREES, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME TRADE MITIGATION INSIDE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THE BUFFER ZONE ON THE ACTUAL RIGHT BESIDE THE HOUSE.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE THERE'S IN THAT IF WE USE THE CURRENT DELL, CURRENT OWNERS ACCESS GOING AND WE'RE WORKING FOR, UH, IF WE USE THEIR LOT FOR THE ACCESS, WE HAVE SOME SMALL TREES WE'D HAVE TO REMOVE TO GET ACCESS IN THERE.
SO TO AVOID THAT, WE WERE TRYING TO GO ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
UM, NO TREE REMOVAL TO DO THAT, BUT TO USE THE LE THE LOT OWNER, THE ONE WE'RE WORKING FOR, WE'D HAVE TO REMOVE SOME SMALL TREES.
THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUFFER ZONE TO GET BACK THERE.
SO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO, DECIDE TO GO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED? I DO.
WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, UH, JUST GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT US.
UH, BUFORD COUNTY BREWER MEMORIAL PARK OF THE SITS ON LADY SIDE VITAL.
UM, WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS KNOW.
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IS THAT AIREDSO, UH, DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE REPRESENTING THIS PROJECT? WELL, OH, MORE.
SO APPARENTLY THERE ARE THREE LIVE FOLKS THAT WERE REMOVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, OR ACTUALLY DECEMBER, 2020 THAT NEEDS TO BE, ARE THEY A SPECIMEN OR ARE THEY A
THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED WITH THREE, TWO AND A HALF INCH CALIBER.
AND WE SUBMITTED A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT HAS, UM, HAVE THREE, A LOT OF OAKS PROPOSED.
SO IF THEY'RE ON THE FINANCING, THEY ARE ON THE PLANS.
BUT THAT WAS ONE OF MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THE WEST DRIVE, UM, HAS A LATERAL NEAR IT, A PROPOSED LEGO, BUT IT'S UNDERNEATH THE COLUMN.
SO IF YOU COULD KIND OF SHIFT IT, MARTHA BURNS.
SO THAT THERE'S THAT CONFLICT.
I, THAT WOULD WORK OUT BETTER.
SO PAUL, YOU SAID YOU RECEIVED, UM, THE EASTMAN FOR THE 15 BY 15 DRAI'S DRAIN DRAINAGE, THESE MEN, BUT THE PLANS SAY TO BE ACQUIRED BY BUFORD COUNTY.
AND I THINK YOU COULD CHANGE THAT NOTE UP AND, UM, MAYBE AS DEED INFORMATION, THAT BOOK OR SOMETHING, OR WHAT DO YOU WANT, WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION DO YOU NEED IN WHICH THAT ON THE PLANT SALARY IT'S OCCURRING, BUT GRAFFITI ON THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE RECORDED.
DO YOU WANT THEM TO PLAN? IF IT'S COOL? YEAH.
YOU HAVE THESE MATTER AND IT HAS THE, UH, THING IT WAS RECORDED.
WE CAN ADD THAT INFORMATION TO OUR PLANS.
UM, TAKE OUT THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS TO BE ACQUIRED BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ACQUIRED AND HAS BEEN GOLDEN, NOTHING.
UM, JUST ONE OTHER THING ABOUT YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, YOU HAVE ORNAMENTAL GRASSES AND PERENNIAL PLANTS PROPOSED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IF YOU COULD KIND OF KEEP EVERYTHING OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT WITHIN THE STD OT AREA, THEN THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
UM, I DON'T SEE AN ENGINEER SEAL.
I SEE THE WORD EDWARD'S CERTIFICATE OF AUTHORIZATION ON THE BULKHEAD DRAWINGS, BUT NOT THE INSTRUCT SIGNED AND SEALED DRAWINGS FOR THAT BULKHEAD WORK.
UM, THAT WAS A, UM, WE HAD A SUB CONSULTANT DO THAT AND THESE ARE TITLE BLOCK, BUT I'LL GET THEM TO ADD THEIR, UM, MENTION YOUR SEAL TO IT.
TANNER, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, WE ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS INTERNALLY FOR THIS ONE.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING STAR MARK ON US FOR THE PROJECT.
WELL JUST PAUL, CAN YOU CALL ME AFTER THE MEETING OR AFTER THIS SECTION? I HAVE JUST PUT DATA UPDATE ABOUT THE BID DOCUMENTS.
PAUL, SO JUST SUBMIT, BUT
ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE GOOD FOR THIS ONE.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS A PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE AND THIS IS FOR CALIBER COLLISION CENTER.
UH, IT IS SLOTS LOCATED ON OUR CHURCH ROAD.
SOMEBODY HERE REPRESENTING THIS PROJECT.
MY NAME IS CHRIS SOLOMON I'M WITH PAVILION DEVELOPMENT.
IT WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER, NOTHING.
WE'VE GOT MICHAEL MCDONALD AND CHRIS STAYS WITH PAVILION AND, UM, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, CAMERON BAKER BATTLE AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, I NEED TO MAKE FOR CAMERAS HERE.
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MICHAEL, GOING TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT QUICKLY AND KIND OF, UM, CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT? YEAH.UM, COULD WE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, CAN WE PULL UP THE SITE PLAN? UM, SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT, BUT WE KIND OF WALK THROUGH WHAT WE'RE PLANNING HERE.
AND HAVE YOU ALL SEEN THAT SITE PLAN? I THINK, I BELIEVE I SENT TO LISA LAST WEEK.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY? AND WE CAN HAVE WHAT YOU SHARE AS A SCREEN.
I MEAN, IF YOU'VE GOT IT READY, I'M, I'M PULLING IT UP ALSO, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU'RE READY TO JUST PULL IT OFF, LOOKS THROUGH.
CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT? ALL RIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE BACKGROUND HERE IS, YEAH, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A PRETTY CHALLENGING SITE, BUT IT IS A SITE THAT CALIBER WILLINGNESS TO PROCEED WITH AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE US DEVELOP FOR THEM.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S SOME ISSUES YOU HAVEN'T GOT PARALLEL LINES, YOU'VE GOT SOME WETLANDS, YOU'VE GOT SOME SETBACKS AND BUFFERS THAT WE TRY TO DEAL WITH AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO, TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, CYCLING OF WORK AND DEVELOP THIS OR THEM.
AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY PRELIMINARY AND JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE OR CALIBER UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MEET OR USE CASE TENSION, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SCREENINGS, BUFFERS, ET CETERA.
UM, YEAH, THEY'VE GOT SOME REALLY TIGHT BUILDING, BE SURE.
UM, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALIZED THAT THERE ARE SOME SETBACKS THAT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, IN SOME HURDLES WE'VE GOT TO OVERCOME AND START THIS OUT FROM HERE TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
AND, AND, AND WE'VE ORIENTED THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO PUT A REALLY NICE LOOKING FACADE ON THE LONG SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT RUNS PARALLEL WITH, UH, BURKE BURKE CHURCH, UH, ROAD.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT LOOK REALLY NICE AND THAT'LL BE THAT FENCE.
UM, CHRIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN.
SO THAT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY A SCREEN FENCE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ALL SPECIFICATIONS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, UM, THE WHOLE AREA WOULD BE SCREENED VERY WELL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS A ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION.
UM, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST PRETTIEST USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS IT'S EXISTING, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHRIS SAID, THE PROPERTIES CHALLENGING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUFFER AND THE SETBACK, UM, YOU KNOW, MADE THE PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFICULT IF NOT, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DEVELOP AND UNLESS THERE WERE SOME CONCESSIONS THERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID, WE JUST, UM, WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH WHAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH WITH YOU.
THE BIG ISSUE IS THERE'S A 50 FOOT HIGHWAY BUFFER ALONG THE PER CHURCH ROAD.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE WIDTH IS WORKING WITH THE BUILDING, HOW FAR THAT IS FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LESS THAN 50 FEET.
AND TH AND THIS IS CAMERON BAKER.
WE, I MEAN, WE'VE, YEAH, WE'VE RECOGNIZED THERE IS THAT 50 FOOT THOROUGHFARE BUFFER.
THE PROPERTY DEPTH IS ONLY ABOUT 110 FEET.
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REPRESENTED THE BUFFER ON THE PLAN.CHRIS, IT'S KIND OF THE ONE THAT KIND OF, YEAH, PRETTY MUCH BISECTS ASIDE ALMOST IN HALF.
UM, SO WE HAVE RECOGNIZING THE, YOU KNOW, CONCESSIONS OR VARIANCES MAY BE REQUIRED.
WE PLACED THE BUILDING WITHIN THE SETBACK AND THE BUFFER, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY 10 FOOT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY ALSO HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY AS RELATED TO THE JASON PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, IT'S ANOTHER 20 FEET OR 25 FOOT, OR SO BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK.
AND, AND THAT KNOW, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROPERTY LINE JOGS, UM, ABOUT ONE PORTION.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THE BUFFER ADJUST ACCORDING TO HOW THAT PROPERTY LINE JOGS AND WHICH, WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED OF AREAS.
WOULD YOU GUYS MIND WALKING US THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE VARIANCE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT STAFF'S OPINION OR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS THERE OR ANYTHING? I MEAN, W WHAT ARE Y'ALL, I MEAN, THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? UM, ALL RIGHT, GUYS, I DON'T HONEST OPINION.
THIS SITE, THE BUILDING IS TOO BIG FOR THE SITE.
YOU'RE PUTTING TOO MUCH ON THE SIDE.
THIS IS A VERY, UM, IT'S SMALL IT'S NARROW, AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR HARDSHIP WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WAY WE WOULD PROBABLY APPROACH IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, YES, WE, WE ARE IN THE, IN THE BUFFER.
UM, BUT THE PLAN WOULD BE TO MAKE A REALLY NICE LOOKING, UM, BUILDING ELEVATION ON THAT SIDE.
UM, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE ACT AS KIND OF LIKE A SCREEN OR A BUFFER, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD IMPROVE THE WAY YOU CAN MAKE A FOR BUFFER.
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW PRETTY THE BUILDING IS.
THAT'S WHAT THE FRONT COUNTY'S ABOUT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SHOWED IT LIKE THIS, UM, WANT TO DISCUSS THIS FIRST, THAT THE OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT WOULD BE THAT WE COULD SHIFT THE BUILDING, I GUESS, TO THE SOUTH.
UM, AND THEN PUT, YOU KNOW, PUT THE DRIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UH, WE JUST, WE KIND OF FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, FROM AN AESTHETIC PERSPECTIVE, IT MADE MAY LOOK BETTER TO DO THIS KNOW WOULD IT ACCOMPLISH IF YOU DID MOVE THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH? WELL, IT WOULD GET US FURTHER OUT OF THE BUFFER, UM, WITH THE BUILDING.
WE'D PROBABLY WANT THE BUILDING.
AND THE SETBACKS CAN'T BE IN THE BUFFER EITHER.
AND I GUESS, AND, AND WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TALKING OUT, WANTING TO GET Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS, UM, THE, THE BUFFER WITH THE WAY THE PROPERTY LINE JOGS AND I MEAN, A 50 FOOT COPPER IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S REALLY ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS SITE AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE WOULD APPROACH IT, THAT BEING A HARDSHIP.
I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS YOU'RE REDUCING THE BUFFER FROM 50 FEET TO 10 FEET.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT'S THE BARRIER HERE.
ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THEY'RE MAKING MINIMAL OF VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIREMENT NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE SITE.
SO, YOU KNOW, FROM LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND I'LL KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM, THE BUILDING AND THE INTERIOR, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD THE BUILDING BE LONGER AND SKINNIER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST OTHER, ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS TO THE SITES ARE NOT VERY HEAVILY FROM WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING AWAY, WHETHER THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THEY WOULD DETERMINE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE LESS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO VARY FROM, I COULD SAY THE MEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE RIGHT RECEIPTS OR THIS PARKING OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE ARE NOT JUST THE BUILDING PARKING AND ALL THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AT ALL.
AND SO OTHER THAN JUST THE DRIVEWAY GOING THE PERPENDICULAR THROUGH,
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UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GET PARKING SPACES IN THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER USES THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE BUFFER.AND JUST, THIS IS CAMERON AGAIN, JUST AS A, I LOOKED AT A REAL QUICK, THE BUFFERS, INCLUDING THE SIDE AND THE REAR BUFFER THAT WE HAVE FOR THE ADJACENT AGAINST ADJACENT PROPERTIES, THE BUFFERS ENCUMBER ABOUT 60% OF THIS ENTIRE PARCEL.
DEVELOPED, WELL, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, UM, JUST TO, JUST AS A POINT OF CONVERSATION, IT SOUNDS REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK.
IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, WE WOULD STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THE VARIANCE IF WE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ENCOURAGEMENT INTO THE, INTO THE BUFFER.
UM, IS THERE, IS THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE'S LIKE A PERCENTAGE OF REDUCTION, THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE, IS THAT, IS THAT THE CASE HERE? NOT FOR THE BUFFER.
BUT YOUR SETBACKS, BUT NOT FOR YOU ABOUT FIRES.
W WHAT WOULD THAT BE FOR THE SETBACK? JUST PERIOD, 20%, HONESTLY, FEET.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO FILL IT.
WHAT, WHAT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATE THIS? WE TAUGHT WITH NEUTRIK ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE PLAN WOULD BE TO MITIGATE IT KNOW BY, I GUESS, THE, THE, UH, CREDITS AND, YOU KNOW, HER DIVING IS AROUND THREE CREDITS WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE AND MITIGATE ELSEWHERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS SOMEWHAT CORRECTLY.
IT'S A NON-DUAL WE ANTICIPATE TO BE A NON-JURISDICTIONAL WILDLAND STILL PRELIMINARY, BUT WHAT THE EARLY CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN, I WILL, IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION THE PICTURE AT THE FIVE POINT 11 POINT 40 TALKS ABOUT NON-TITLE WHITE PLAINS AND, UH, EACH TO GO OVER THAT AND, AND SEE, UM, I WILL HAVE WE'RE TO, ARE YOU GOING ADDRESS, FILL IT AT ALL? UM, WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, WE, YOU, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT OUR WORK CUT OUT WITH THE BUFFERS AND THE SETBACKS IS THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THE WETLANDS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE PROPERLY.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, UM, THAT YOU GUYS SEE AS A GLARING ISSUE RIGHT NOW? I GUESS THE BASE ARE THE SIDES.
IT LOOKS OUR STORAGE, IT'S ALL DONE INTERNAL INTERNALLY.
I KNOW, BUT THE BASE, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FACING, UH, OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA, RIGHT? YES.
THERE'LL BE ONE, ONE, UM, ONE OR TWO, AND WE CAN PROVIDE YOU GUYS AN ELEVATION, UH, BAY DOOR INTO THE BUILDING, BUT THEN THERE'LL BE INTERNAL BAY.
SO THE CARS WILL DRIVE IN AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE INTERNAL BASE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE REASON WE HAD THE BUILDING, ALTHOUGH WE ARE ENCROACHING IN THE BUFFER, WE HAD THE BUILDING PUSHED UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO THE ROAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE BAYS FACING AWAY FROM THE ROAD AND INTO THE ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION.
WELL, IF THIS DOES GET THE VARIANCE AND YOU CAN PROCEED FORWARD, THIS PROJECT HAVE TO BE REVIEWED, BUT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, WHICH IS AFTER CONCEPTUAL, OR CAN THEY DO IT WHILE THEY'RE PRIME FOR THE VARIANCE? WHAT IF THEY DON'T GET THE BETTER? SO YOU WOULD HAVE PICKED CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL FIRST FROM THIS, THIS REVIEW BODY.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO GET THE VARIANCE FROM THE CVOE EIGHT GO TO THE PARENTS.
THEY, THEY, I MEAN, THEY NEED TO GO TO THE ZB AWAY FIRST, FIRST.
AFTER YOU GET ALL THAT FINISHED, THEN YOU COME TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND THAT'S A TWO-STEP PROCESS.
THE FIRST STEP IS THE ARCHITECTURE.
AND THEN THE SECOND STEP IS REFINEMENT OF THE ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPING,
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AND LIGHTING, AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO FINALISTS OR TEETH.UM, AND THEN, SO, SO YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO GET THE VARIANCE BEFORE WE COME IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS FOR THE CONCEPTUAL REVIEW, OR YES, BECAUSE IF YOU'VE COME IN, IF YOU COME TO US FOR CONCEPTUAL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FRATERNITY PANEL.
YOU'RE NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BOAT.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE VARIANCE PROCESS, UM, IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT HANDLES THAT APPLICATION THAT WE CAN SPEAK TO ABOUT THE SPECIFIC I, AGAIN, I CAN SEND IT TO YOU.
DAVID I'M KIND OF ALL DAY FOR APRIL IS THE 31ST OF MAY.
I WILL SEND IT TO YOU TODAY AND YOU DECIDE WHEN YOU WANT TO PROCEED.
AND, UM, AND, AND W AND WE'LL REVIEW WHAT YOU SEND US, BUT JUST CURIOUS, UH, UH, THIS LEVEL SITE PLAN, UM, WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT? OH YEAH.
WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE PROPOSING.
AND ONE IS YOU'RE NEEDING, I MEAN, RIGHT.
IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WANTING, THEN IT'S SEVEN MINUTES.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT JUST, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT KIND OF THIS, THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL DOES THAT YOU THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT.
AND WHAT ABOUT LIKE, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU NEED TO SEE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS? OKAY.
AND THEN, SO WE WOULD SUBMIT IF WE SUBMIT BY MARCH 31ST, THAT GETS US ON THE APRIL AGENDA.
THE MEETING WOULD BE APRIL 22ND, 25TH.
AND COULD IT BE APPROVED IN THAT MEETING OR IS THERE ANOTHER STEP THAT, AGAIN, IT IS, I GUESS THAT APRIL 22ND MEETING, IS IT, IS IT RE APPROVED, DENIED, OR IT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED OR DENIED, BUT IT'D BE CONTINUED OR THEY COULD TABLE IT, BUT TYPICALLY THEY WOULD TAKE.
AND THEN, UM, AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A BOARD THAT REVIEWS IT.
WHO WHO'S THE BOARD MADE UP OF? IS IT, UM, STAFF OR IS IT, UM, UH, INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS.
I THINK THAT'S, UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I, I HAVE CAMERON WERE CORRECT.
NO, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN HELPFUL, KIND OF HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE STILL ENGINEERS BRAINSTORM, HOW TO, HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK.
WHEN IS YOUR STORM GOING TO BE UNDERGROUND? YOU'RE GOING TO DO UNDERGROUND ATTENTION, PLEASE.
OR COMBINATION THEREOF, BUT, UM, HAVE YOU GUYS KIND OF TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE, OUR NEW SILICO DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE SITE? NO.
I MEAN, NOT, WE WE'VE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A TOPO OR TREE SURVEY OR, YOU KNOW, W SO WE'VE KIND OF JUST DONE FROM PRELIMINARY.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FOR SURE.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND, UM, IT SHOULD BE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE RIGHT NOW.
TAKE A LOOK AT OUR COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BNPS, WHEN I MEET THE REMOVAL RATES AND RETENTION RATES THAT WE'VE SET FORTH IN OUR NEW STANDARDS.
AND IT'S BEEN A LITTLE DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT FOR NEWER, NEWER PROJECTS, GUYS, NOT TOO AWFUL ON THE IMPERVIOUSNESS.
AND I DO SEE A LOT OF PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, UM, COMPACTED, GRAVEL.
WE DON'T TYPICALLY TYPICALLY CONSIDER AS PERVIOUS UNLESS IT'S, YOU KNOW, WELL, ENGINEERED L WE HAD PEOPLE JUST SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO PUT CRUSH AND RUN IN AREAS AND CALL IT PERVIOUS.
AND WE TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY DO NOT ACCEPT THAT AS PERVIOUS.
SO THERE'S THAT CONSIDERATION, ALL THOSE FIELDS.
WE ALWAYS LIKE PAVERS OR ACTUAL PERVIOUS, CONCRETE AND COMMS. PERVIOUS PAVEMENT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS WITH US BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK ALTOGETHER? IT COULD GET PRETTY, I, AT FIRST I DID, BUT WHEN YOU, YOU MENTIONED UNDERGROUND ATTENTION, I, THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.
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I BELIEVE ORDINANCES ARE MORE FAVORABLE TO THAT.UM, THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT WANTS TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR, YOUR STANDARD RUNOFF WET POND.
UM, WHEN WE WERE ON DETENTION WITH, YOU KNOW, PERVIOUS PAVEMENT FOR INFILTRATION, ASSUMING YOUR SOILS ARE GOOD AND YOU'RE ABLE TO GET GOOD INFILTRATION IN THIS PURSE, PAY PERVIOUS PAVING AREAS.
UM, I DON'T SEE MANY ISSUES AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, ALL THE NUMBERS WORK OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND, AND JUST, UM, WALKING US THROUGH THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO BRAINSTORM AND COME BACK.
ARE YOU STILL ON? YEAH, I'M HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS JUST BASED ON THIS.
UM, I HEAR THAT THEY'RE MAYBE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN.
SO, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND, UM, TO JUST DO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, UM, ADDITIONAL FIRE HYDRANTS, UM, SPRINKLER SYSTEM, AND THEN, UM, THE GATE OR THE FENCE AND AREA.
I DID HAVE QUESTION IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ELECTRONIC GATES OR MANUAL GATES TO ALLOW US ACCESS TO THE BACKSIDE THERE.
UM, SO THERE'S JUST THOSE THINGS TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND.
WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN DETAIL THAT ON, ON THE PLAN.
UM, SO IF WE GO IN FOR A VARIANCE AND WE'RE DENIED, DOES THAT PREVENT US FROM COMING BACK FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME? LET'S SAY WE COME IN WITH A PLAN, IT GETS DENIED, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME IDEAS HOW TO MAKE REVISIONS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.
YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE DID GET DENIED, DOES THAT PREVENT US FROM COMING BACK FROM A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME BEING DENIED? YOU MEAN GOING BACK TO POOL DOT COA? UM, WELL, ASSUMING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THE PLAN BASED ON US NOT GETTING THE VARIANCE AND THAT WE WANTED TO COME BACK IN AND TRY TO GET A NUT, YOU KNOW, GET A VARIANCE WITH A DIFFERENT, UM, DESIGN.
IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS, LIKE IF WE GET DENIED? OKAY.
WHAT DO MEAN, I, IF I WERE YOU, I WOULDN'T REQUEST, I WOULD ASK THEM TO TABLE IT, SO YOU COULD COME BACK WITH SOMETHING AND IF IT'S 60 DAYS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WAIT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS.
YES, MA'AM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
UM, SO IT'S IN THE VARIANCE HEARING, IS THERE, IS THERE ROOM FOR KIND OF OPEN DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE, ARE WE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WALK THROUGH WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE AND KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PLAN AND IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET APPROVED, THEN WE COULD, UM, WE COULD ASK FOR, FOR IT TO BE TABLED, YOU CAN.
WELL, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND, UM, YEAH, WE'LL BE TALKING HERE SOON.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE ANOTHER PRE-APPLICATION MEANING THIS IS FOUR 40 57.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MY DEAR APRIL.
DID I? UH, WE WERE TIRED MARSH, THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM, AND WE HAVE JEFF BEASLEY, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, DID YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE PDFS WE FORWARDED OR SHOULD WE SHARE THAT ON THE SCREEN? OF COURSE,
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YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE IT.YOU SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN? YES, WE DID.
SO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AERIAL PHOTOS UNDER LATE, UH, UH, IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT VERY WELL, WE'VE GOT THAT.
WHICH DO YOU PREFER? UM, FOR NOW? OKAY.
SO, UH, RIGHT NOW, UM, THE PROPERTY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF FRONTAGE ON, UH, ON THE, UH, MARY JACOBS AND MORE FRONT OF JOINT HEADINGS POINT.
AND, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, JEFF HAS, UH, HIS OYSTER BUSINESS LOCATED THERE WHERE HE, UH, THE PREPS, THE OYSTERS THAT HAVE BEEN HARVESTED FOR, FOR SALE.
AND HE'S INTERESTED IN, IN DOING A, UH, A NEW, A NEW BUILDING, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING IS, IS AN AID TO RESTAURANT USE.
AND, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THROUGH THE COUNTY FOR THIS, UH, T TO OUR ZONING.
AND WE JUST WANTED YOUR FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS, THIS, UH, IMPROVED, UH, THIS NEW BUILDING AND THE LOCATION, AND, UM, WHERE THE, WHERE THE, YOU THINK THAT IT'S, UM, GOING TO BE ACCEPTED BY, BY YOUR DEPARTMENT GOING FORWARD.
IT'S BEING DESIGNED AS A, IS A HEATED, UH, KITCHEN AND WASHROOM, UH, UH, OCCUPYING A BOOT TO 960 SQUARE FEET, BUT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT WOULD BE ABOUT 2,800 SQUARE FEET.
AND, UH, SO IT'D BE UNDER ROOF, UH, BUT OPEN AIR, UH, OYSTER, UH, SORT OF FISH CAMP ENVIRONMENT, UM, LIKE, LIKE ANY, LIKE ANY TRADITIONAL EASTER ROAST WOULD BE.
AND, UM, I, I THINK JEFF WOULD, WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO, TO COME AND DO TAKE OUT OR, OR, OR SIT, SIT IN AND SIT DOWN.
SO SHE'LL WEAR THOSE OR THIS TO MY ACTUAL FACTS WHERE I'M PROCESSING.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PROCESSING FACILITY WHERE YOU WISH TO GO.
AND, UH, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A LITTLE BIT FARTHER SOUTH AT THE OTHER END OF THE MARSH FRONT.
AND, UM, IT'S ALSO OFFICE INSTALLED.
IT'S LIKE AN AREA UNDER A PAVILION.
THE SHADED AREA WOULD BE THE ENCLOSED GROUND FLOOR, KITCHEN WASHROOM OFFICE AREA, AND THE, THE, THE, THE HATCHED AREA NEXT TO THAT, THE TWO IT'S SORT OF ONE-THIRD GATED AND THEN TWO THIRDS UNDER ROOF, BUT THE UNDER ROOF WOULD BE THE, THE, UM, THE CUSTOMER TABLE AND CHAIR SEATING.
AND THERE THERE'D BE, UM, A, UM, AN OUTDOOR, UH, FOOD PREPARATION AREA WHERE THEY'RE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, IF YOU WANTED ROASTED OYSTERS, THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, GRILLS THROUGH THERE AND POSSIBLY A SMALL STAGE FOR, UM, FOR LIVE MUSIC.
THAT'S, THAT'S JEFF'S VISION FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL OF THIS STUFF.
THE GROUND FLOOR HEATED IS 960, THE GROUND FLOOR ON THE WOULD BE 1,833, BUT THE TOTAL HEATED WOULD BE 1690 BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, THERE'S A, UH, ANOTHER OFFICE UPSTAIRS AND SOME STORAGE.
AND, UH, BUT, BUT BASICALLY THE TOTAL AREA HEATED WOULD BE 1,690.
I NEED THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WHAT IS IT IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE ROOF? THE TOTAL, UH, WOULD BE, UM, JUST A SEC,
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LET'S SEE, JUST 57 BY 49.IT'S 37 WOULD SIGN A 300 OR THEY'D HAVE TO GO FOR, SPEND YOUR USE.
IS HE STILL IN THE MEETING? HILLARY? I'M COMING UP IN 3,891 SQUARE FOOT.
HOW MUCH DISTURBED ERA WHO'S GOING TO DO AND WHAT PARKING IMPROVEMENTS HE WAS NOT PROPOSED.
HAVE TO HAVE PARKIN FOR FEET FROM THE CRITICAL, YOU KNOW, THEY GET A, YOU KNOW, THEY GET A WAIVER WITH, DEPENDING ON SHIT.
WE GOT A, WE GOT BUMPED OFF, BUT, UH, THE TOTAL AREA UNDER ROOF IS 3,891 SQUARE FEET RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU WANT TO BE 38 91 SQUARE FEET, YOU HAVE TO GO FOR SPECIAL USE.
IF YOU CAN WANT TO BE GREATER THAN 3,100 SQUARE FEET, IT BECOMES A SPECIAL USE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
I SAW, I SAW A NUMBER OF AREAS IN THE, IN THE, UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS 3,500 AND ANOTHER, WHICH WAS 1500 IN THE TWO TO OUR ZONING.
I MEAN, THIS WAS JUST A CONCEPTUAL, UM, UH, PLAN, AND WE COULD REDUCE THAT TO 3,100 TO AVOID THAT.
THIS AREA ACTUALLY HAD A SEED COMMERCIAL FISHING VILLAGE OVERLAY DISTRICT APPLIES TO IT, CORRECT? YES.
THAT'S WHERE THE PROVISION, THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF 3,100 SQUARE FEET IS.
AND HILARY IS THAT THIS WOULD SAY IT'S AN IMPACTFUL USE OF, IT GOES BEYOND THAT.
PASSIONATELY USES RESTAURANTS GREATER THAN 3,100 SQUARE FEET.
W WOULD THAT BE A, WOULD THAT BE A COMPLICATED, UM, UH, THING TO ACHIEVE TO, TO, UM, IF IT'S AN EXTRA STEP YOU WOULD COME TO US FOR FACTUAL, I MEAN, THEN YOU WOULD GO ON TO THE SAUDI PORT FOR A SPECIAL USE APPROVAL.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK TO JEFF ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, AND PROBABLY GET BACK TO YOU ON, ON, UH, A QUESTION OR TWO ON THAT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT'S NOT REALLY DESIGNED YET, WE COULD, WE COULD TRY AND TARGET THAT 3,100 TO AVOID THAT.
AND, UM, WE'LL JUST, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, YOU SEE, UH, ABOUT, UM, ON YOUR, ON SOUTH, THE WEST SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER WHERE THOSE HOUSES ARE? YES.
SO INSTEAD OF AN 18 FOOT SETBACK, IT'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER.
IT WOULD ALSO APPLY TO ANY PARKING AREA OR EVERYTHING HAS TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT 50 BUCKS, EVERYTHING.
AND, AND SINCE IT'S COMMERCIAL, WE WE'RE, UM, WE'VE KEPT IT BACK FROM THE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK AND, UM, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY APPLY TO THE, TO THE SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD.
AND, UH, AND THANKFULLY THAT, BUT, UM, THE, THE EXISTING, UM, WELL, WASHING, WASHING, UH, AREA FOR THAT WASTERS IS COULD THAT BE, UH, KEPT IN PLACE YES.
AND, UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE KEPT IT ABOUT 65 FEET BACK FROM THE, UM, THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
JUST, JUST, JUST TO GIVE IT SOME ROOM FOR, UH, FOR LANDSCAPING AND, UM, LET ME SEE THAT.
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EXCEPT FOR ECONOMISTS BENCH, WE'LL USE THE BUCKS AND WINS PENSIONS.SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIX DOOR WHAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
IS THERE A HOME ON THE SOUTH SIDE ANYWHERE? NO, IT'S JUST AN OPEN FIELD RIGHT NOW.
THE SURVEY, THIS IS THE LATEST SURVEY, SO IT'S, UM, C YOU KNOW, THE RAIL WOULD BE 50 FEET.
SO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS 50 FEET HIGH, THIS ORDER ROAD.
SO THAT'S THE FRONT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE SHOWING IT AT.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THE SURVEYOR THROUGH, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT 65 FEET FROM THE, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FOR, FOR THE SET ON THE, SO, SORRY.
TANNER, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UM, I HAD A FEW KIND OF QUESTIONS, REALLY.
UM, SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DISTURBED AREA FOR THE PROJECT WOULD BE? NO.
NO RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT THE DRAIN FIELD AND THEN THE PARKING AREA RIGHT NOW, BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, I WOULD, I WOULD CHECK OUR SILICO DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, I THINK YOU YOU'LL, YOU'LL PROBABLY END UP GOING PAST THE THRESHOLD, UM, A 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL.
SO, UM, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DESIGN TO THOSE STANDARDS, WHETHER IT BE TIER ONE OR TIER TWO, UM, IT WILL KIND OF BE DETERMINED ON WHAT WE SEE WITH THE, THE OFFICIAL CONCEPTUALS MIDDLE.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND GOING THROUGH OUR DESIGN MANUAL SECTION THREE WILL, WILL BE CHAPTER THREE, BE THE BEST POINT OF APPLICABILITY IN ORDER TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND WHERE YOUR DESIGN WILL HAVE TO GO IN TERMS OF TIERS.
BUT, UM, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 20 PARKING SPACES IF YOU STAY AT 3,100.
IF YOU'VE NOTICED FROM SEVEN 30 TO THIS VISIT THREE EIGHT, IT'S BASICALLY ONE ON SPACE FOR 350 SQUARE FEET.
SO 26, IF YOU GO WITH YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PROPOSING AROUND THAT? 25% OF A QUARTER TO A YEP.
NOW WE'VE GOT THAT DOWN AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
UM, SO THE, UM, I GUESS, JEFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
I MEAN, UM, WHAT ARE THEY SAYING THAT THE PORK LOT HAS TO BE 50 FEET AWAY FROM CORRECT.
WE HAVE TO BE 50 FEET AWAY FROM THE, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HERE AND ALSO THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY TO BEVIN.
NOT EXACTLY WHERE I WAS PUTTING, NOT A WORK IN 2020, WE'LL PROBABLY SHRINK IT DOWN A LITTLE 31.
WELL, STRIP IT DOWN AND USE THAT ON 20 CARS.
WHEN SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE HIT, THEY'VE ALREADY APPLIED AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND TELL ME MY SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY MY LAW OFFICE AND IT DOES HAVE A SEPTIC.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MAY DO THAT AS MY OFFICE AND JUST USE THE UPPER PORTION FOR STORAGE.
I'M, WE'LL LEAVE THEM ON STORAGE.
UH, BUT THE MAIN GOAL IS TO JUST HAVE A PLACE TO WHERE I CAN, UM, STORE VOTES DURING THE SUMMERTIME, BUT ALSO MAYBE HAVE SOME WEDDING RENTED OUT AND I'LL NEED A PLACE TO PUT MY TABLES AND STUFF.
AND SO, YEAH, CAMPERS PROBABLY GONNA STAY THERE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A REALLY KIND OF LEAKS AND ALL, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE A COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY.
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NO, WE ALREADY GOT IT.AND, UH, WE'RE PUTTING A WRAP DOWN THIS WEEK.
UH, THERE WAS A POWER POLE IN THE WAY.
AND, UM, SO, AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING ACCESS FROM ERIN'S POINT.
NO, MA'AM, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACCESS FROM, UM, JENKINS, THAT LITTLE THING THAT STICKS OUT A LITTLE EXTRA A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND CROSS MY PERMIT I'M TO, UH, I GUESS I'M GOING TO NEED TO GET ONE THERE.
SO, AND IS THERE ANY TREES TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THAT? UM, BARRY JENKINS SIDE? NO, JUST, JUST BRUSH JUST A BUNCH OF NASTY RUBBISH.
SO I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE THE DOMAIN, YOU CAN COME IN THERE AND WORK OLDER GUIDEWIRE OR THE POLE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE WAY WHEN WE START BUILDING.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS NEW BUILDING HAS TO HAVE WONDER BROWN ELECTRICAL.
UH, A DOMINION GIRL WAS TELLING ME, UM, THE, THE MAIN POLE IS UP THOUGH.
UM, AND THEN THEY'RE TO RUN ME.
I, I, UH, AN UNDERGRAD, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA RUN ME UP A SEPARATE POLE AND THEN GO UNDER FROM THERE.
BUT DOES THAT TO GO UNDER FROM THE MAIN WHAT'S THAT, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T KNOW YET.
THEY, THEY, UH, THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT.
THEY WANT US TO WAIT AND MAKE SURE I'M EVEN GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT BEFORE WE START TALKING THEM THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN SURE THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THEY'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE BACK OUT.
SHE SAID, WELL, IT'S D HECK THOSE.
AND I GET MY SEPTATE TAKEN CARE OF VISION.
THEY'LL STOP TALKING ABOUT POLES AND RUNNING THIS AND THAT.
IT JUST KEEPS IN MIND THAT ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE ON THE GROUND.
YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, SIR.
UH, FIRSTLY, LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR FIRE MARSHALL JOHN IS IN TRAINING TODAY, SO HE COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT STEP I'M GOING TO NEED DETAILED SITE PLANS.
THINGS WE ARE LOOKING FOR FOR THE APPLICANT ARE GOING TO BE A ROAD ACCESS ROAD TO THE, THE RESTAURANT THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS CONSTRUCTION WITH AND SO FORTH OF THE ROAD.
UH, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE A HYDRANT ONSITE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
UM, THE PROPER DISTANCE, I GUESS, WILL BE 300 FOOT TO THE, TO THE BUILDING, BUT SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED HYDRANT, UH, PROPER ROAD CONSTRUCTION IN WIDTH.
AND THEN AS WE PROGRESS BUILDING PLANS, BECAUSE IF HAVE STORY, IT MAY REQUIRE TO BE SPRINKLED BY FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM, GLADLY WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE ENGINEERS, IF THEY WANT TO STOP BY AND SEE US OR SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? I'M SORRY.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FROM FIRE MARSHALL.
DO YOU HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION? I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT.
WE'LL SEND THE FIRE HYDRANT AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT HE'S OUT OF THE OFFICE THIS WEEK, BUT OUR TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (843) 525-7692.
AND YOU'RE CURRENTLY SPEAKING TO CHIEF CLIENT, HIS BOSS, SO.
WHEN YOU SAY FIREARM, DO YOU MEAN FIRE HYDRANT, LIGHT, UH, NEXT TO THE STRUCTURE OR JUST ON THE STREET NEXT TO WHERE IT WAS, WAS IN 300.
AND THEN IT JUST INVOLVES YOU GUYS ATTACHING TO THE WATER LINE AND I JUST START TO RUN IT IN FROM, FROM, UH, PROBABLY AT X POINT.
SO THAT COME THAT WAY OR IS THERE, UM, SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT WATER.
WE, WE ONLY PROCESS OUR OYSTERS.
WE USE FRESH WATER, SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT WATER RUNNING TO THE PROPERTY COMING FROM EDDINGS.
SO I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO JUST TAP IN THERE.
AND THE QUESTION WILL BE WHETHER YOU'RE TAPPING IN OFF OF MARY JENKINS OR OFF OF EDDINGS POINT, UH, GOING TO THE HYDRANT IS A MINIMUM OF SIX INCH WATER LINE SIX INCH.
AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T LOOK AT MARY JACKSON TO SEE IF THERE'S A HYDRANT, ANY WORKLOADS.
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I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOU GUYS, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.YOU SAVE US A LOT OF GOING BACK AND FORTH.
WHEN YOU GUYS DECIDE WHAT SIZE YOU'RE GOING TO, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO WE CAN GET SOME SET UP.
WE CAN CALL THIS THE FREE APP AND THEN WE GET YOU SCHEDULED FOR CONCEPTUALLY.
I THINK THAT, CAN YOU FLEW TO CSR TEAM MEETING? THANK YOU EVERYONE.