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[I. Call to Order]
20, 21.WELCOME AND SEE THE FACES WERE ALMOST BACK FULL, BUT WE HAVE ALL OF COUNCIL HERE.
ALL MR. FINGER IS GOOD TO SEE STAFF.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE PRESS IN THE ROOM.
IT'S JUST NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY.
UM, WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
ALL OF COUNCIL IS IN ATTENDANCE.
IF WE'LL START BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN THIS TOWN AND EACH ONE OF US FATHER, I ASK THAT YOU GOT US TONIGHT SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS PLEASING TO YOU AND FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR PEOPLE.
[IV. Adoption of the Agenda]
ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.HEY, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA YOUR SECOND? OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
[V. Adoption of the Minutes]
WE PUT ALL OF OUR SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES ON.WELL, AS YOU NOTICED A CHANGE ON OUR AGENDA, UM, SO WE WILL JUST GO THROUGH THOSE OF APRIL 12TH.
IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 12TH FOR A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
OUR SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 13TH.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES THERE? SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THEN WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 13TH, 2021, UH, MAYOR IN THAT, IN THAT REGULAR MEETING ON THE 13TH RICHARDSON LABRUCE WAS IN ATTENDANCE AS OPPOSED TO ME IT'S I WANT TO MAKE THAT, THAT NOTATION THAT WAS HERITAGE WEEK AND I WAS NOT HERE FOR THAT.
AND RICHARDSON ATTENDED VIA ZOOM.
I THINK KIM HAS ME DOWN AND IT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED.
SO WITH ONE CHANGE OF RICHARD SINHALA, BRUCE BEING THE ATTORNEY OF RECORD, UH, ON TOP OF THAT, ANY OTHER CHANGES, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEIR SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS AND FAMILY.
WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 14TH.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES THERE? SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THAT'S UNANIMOUS PRESENTATION,
[VI. Presentations, Celebrations and Recognitions]
CELEBRATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.WE STILL ARE CURRENTLY NOT HAVING ANYONE IN TO ACCEPTED, BUT WE DO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, EACH OF THESE EVERY MONTH.
AND OUR FIRST IS THE STUDENT OF THE MONTH FROM MICHAEL C RALEIGH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THIS IS FROM THE CHARACTER, UH, PROGRAM THAT, UH, IS RUN THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND HER NAME IS MILLIE DIGRAPH AND REED SHE'S A, THE CHARACTER TRAIT WAS SELF-CONTROL.
AND AS YOU SEE HER PICTURE, IF Y'ALL ARE WATCHING ON TV OR ONLINE, UM, SHE IS AT MICHAEL C RALEIGH.
SHE SAYS HER TEACHER SHARED THAT WHEN THEY THINK OF SELF-CONTROL THEY SEE MILLIE IS THE EPITOME OF THE WORD THROUGH HER ACTIONS AND HER LEADERSHIP QUALITIES.
AND THAT WAS THE CHARACTER TRAITS, UM, THAT SHE RECEIVED STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOUR, WHICH WAS SELF-CONTROL.
SHE LIVES THE SEVEN HABITS EVERY DAY AS A LEADER, SHE HELPS OTHERS TO THEIR BEST.
SHE DOESN'T TELL HER LIZ WHAT TO DO.
SHE LEADS BY EXAMPLE, HER ENTHUSIASM FOR LEARNING IS CONTAGIOUS.
UM, SHE ALWAYS HAS A POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND CELEBRATES OTHERS, EVEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE OTHERS MAY GET FRUSTRATED, MILLIE WILL REMAIN CALM AND IN CONTROL OF HER EMOTIONS, HER PARENTS HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE AND HAVE SET A SHINING EXAMPLE OF HOW TO DEVELOP CARING CHILDREN THAT HOLD THEMSELVES TO A HIGH STANDARD, BUT ALSO BEING A KID.
UM, SO MILLIE, IF YOU'RE WATCHING, WE'LL GET YOU A CERTIFICATE AND WE WILL GET YOU A COIN.
AND MAYBE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE ALL THESE KIDS COME AT ONE TIME AND WE CAN CELEBRATE THEM ALL IN PERSON.
UM, IT'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
UM, THIS MONTH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT, KIM? UM, WE WILL HAVE THINGS ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A SYMPOSIUM ON MAY 27.
WE ARE A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WE CELEBRATE THIS MONTH, UM, WITH A LOT OF EDUCATION AND SEMINARS AND IT'S JUST GOING TO
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BE A GOOD TIME FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.THERE'S ALSO BUILDING SAFETY MONTH AND WE USUALLY HAVE SOMEONE FROM STAFF BRING THAT ON.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WITH THE GROWTH WE'RE HAVING TO BUILD SAFELY IN THAT PROCLAMATION WILL BE ON OUR SITE.
AND FINALLY IT'S NATIONAL MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH, UH, THAT THE LACKEY GROUP, WHICH IS LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH, UH, WANTED US TO PUT INTO OUR RECORD AND THEY ARE HAVING AN EVENT ON MAY 15TH.
IT'S A WALK IN TOWN, UH, PROMOTING WHAT THE, WHAT THE KIDS DO AND THE YOUTH COUNCILS DO PUBLIC COMMENT
[VII. Public Comment]
IS YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, KIM? YES.SO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, BEFORE THEY GET ON THIS THREE MINUTES, UH, PLEASE KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO COUNCIL AND MAKE NO, UH, NEGATIVE REMARKS TOWARDS STAFF OR ANYONE AROUND YOU.
PLEASE KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES.
WE WILL ASK YOU FOR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU GET STARTED.
AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT NEEDS TO PERTAIN TO ITEMS THAT WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER.
YOU WANT TO SAY WHO IT IS, KIM OR BRIAN QUINN.
I BRIAN, I THINK BRIAN, GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIAN.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL, WE'LL STOP YOU AND YOU GET TO THE END.
THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS TONIGHT.
CAN YOU HEAR US, BRIAN? CAN YOU HEAR US? THERE MAY BE A DELAY IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THIS IS BRIAN QUINN ON THIS YEAR AS PRESIDENT OF THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS BACK IN YOUR SEATS.
UM, IN YOUR, I IMAGINE IN YOUR SUPPLEMENTS OR IN THE PACKET, WE, UH, WE PRESENTED A STATEMENT FROM THE HBA AND I'D LIKE TO READ IT ALOUD.
UM, ON BEHALF OF MORE THAN 450 BUILDING INDUSTRY COMPANIES THAT LIVE WORK THAT LIVE AND WORK THROUGH HAMPTON AND JASPER COUNTIES, WE WRITE TO YOU TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, ENTERING INTO AN INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU FOR COUNTY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF COLLECTING SCHOOL IMPACT FEES ON NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
OUR FOCUS IN THE INDUSTRY PROVIDES US A GREAT INSIGHT ON MARKET CONDITIONS AND FUTURE HOMEOWNER TRENDS.
THE CURRENT NEW HOMEOWNER IS EXPERIENCING NEARLY $50,000 WORTH OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSES TODAY FOR PER HOME DUE TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE COVID-19 LUMBER CRISIS.
FURTHERMORE, WITH THE REAL ESTATE HOUSING, BOOM THEY'RE PLANNING, THEY'RE PAYING NEARLY 22% MORE FOR THEIR LOFTS.
THIS NET EFFECT HAS THE NEW HOMEOWNER STRETCH BEYOND THEIR MEANS AND CREATES A TREMENDOUS STRAIN ON HOUSEHOLD LOCAL BUSINESS SPENDING.
AND INSTEAD FOCUSES THOSE DOLLARS TO HIGHER MORTGAGE PAYMENTS AND PROPERTY TAXES.
IN MANY INSTANCES, WE'RE SEEING THE CURRENT HOMEBUYER WITH LIMITED THE CURRENT HOME BUYER WITH LIMITED MEANS BEING COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A NEW HOME DUE TO ALL THE ADDED COSTS TO IMPLEMENT NEW IMPACT FEES ON ALREADY RISING COSTS WILL STIFLE EMPLOYMENT, DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND CREATE AN OR UNFAVORABLY LARGER REACH TO IMPLEMENT HOUSING COST AVAILABILITY.
IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT THERE ARE STILL TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS WITH HOW THESE MONIES WILL BE COLLECTED, MANAGED AND DISTRIBUTED.
SOUTH ABROAD WILL CARRY THE BURDEN WHILE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF THE BROAD ARE GIVEN PRIORITY WITHOUT HAVING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE IMPACT FEES.
HOUSING TRUST FUNDS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND FOR PAYING LOW-INCOME HOUSING IMPACT FEES.
THAT BY RULE STILL NEED TO BE PAID.
THOSE DOLLARS SHOULD GO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOLUTIONS.
HOWEVER, THE FUND WILL BECOME INDEBTED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ACTIONS OF THIS IGA AND TOWNER ACTIVELY END UP ONLY FUNDING THE IMPACT FEEDS.
WE ALSO SEE THAT COMMERCIAL PROJECTS WILL BE EXEMPT FROM IMPACT FEE AS PER THE RESPONSES SENT BY ERIC GREENWAY.
IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING THE BURDEN OF SCHOOL IMPACT FEES WHILE COMMERCIAL APARTMENTS, CONDOMINIUMS EXTENDED STAY RESONANCE, COMMERCIAL TOWNHOMES, AND MULTI-USE BUILDINGS
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DO NOT HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE IMPACTS OF SCHOOLS TO THE COMMUNITY DUE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.WE FIND IT HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY, FOR THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON AN IGA UNTIL THEY REQUEST FURTHER STUDIES ON ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY TO FIND PROJECT SCOPES FOR HOW AND WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT, REEXAMINED THE IMPACT FEEDS IMPACT FEE PAYMENTS ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND FIND BETTER SOLUTIONS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING EXEMPT FROM IMPACT WITHOUT PLACING THE BURDEN ON HOUSING FUNDS TO PLAY, PAY FOR THEM.
AND IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, UM, BRIAN, FOR THE RECORD, IT IS 11 ROBOT ROAD AND HILTON HEAD.
JUST NEED THAT FOR THE RECORD IN THE MINUTES.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR
[VIII. Communications from Mayor and Council]
AND COUNCIL.ANYTHING I'LL LOOK LEFT, DONE WELL.
I AM JUST TICKLED TO SEE ALL YOU FOLKS, UH, OF MISCHIEF AND I'VE MISSED EVERYONE OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, EVERYONE AND, UH, STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
AND WE ALWAYS LOVE OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
UM, I THINK THERE WAS A SPECIAL PERIOD OF THE YEAR GOING ON FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M JUST GLAD TO BE BACK AND GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, TODAY.
DAN, ANYTHING I'LL GET ME OUT OF THIS BOX.
IT'D BE ALL RIGHT TO TAKE THAT DOWN.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM TAMERA COUNCIL? UM, IT IS NATIONAL POLICE OFFICER'S WEEK.
UM, I WOULD URGE EVERYONE THAT'S LISTENING TO SAY A HELLO OR GO BY.
UM, I GOT AN EMAIL TODAY THAT THE DAY SHIFT GETS TREATED RIGHT, BUT WE GOTTA TAKE CARE THE NIGHT SHIFT.
SO LET'S, LET'S FEED THEM TOO.
AND, UM, OUR, ANYTHING JUST SAY HELLO, AND WE SO APPRECIATE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR FIRE AND YOU NAME IT.
IF THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF US, WE, WE MORE, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL KNOW HOW WE FEEL.
SO THIS WEEK SHOULD BE EVERY WEEK, BUT YOU GET YOUR WEEK.
UM, AND WE WILL REMEMBER YOU, ANYTHING ELSE MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING, WE HAVE ONE ITEM
[IX.1. Consideration of Approval of an Ordinance to Amend the Belfair Planned Unit Development Text to Amend Proposed Uses to add the Use ‘Indoor Electric Go-Kart Facility’ to the List of Permitted Uses within the Neighborhood Commercial Portion of the Belfair Planned Unit Development And to Specifically Include ‘Outdoor’ to Go-Kart Facility as Listed in Prohibited Uses in Article 4 Development Plan Section A – Land Use, Subsection 6 – Public Hearing and Final Reading]
AND IT'S THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BELFAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXTS TO AMEND PROPOSED USES TO USE, UM, INDOOR ELECTRIC GO-CART FACILITY TO THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE BELFAIR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.AND TO SPECIFICALLY LIST OUT THE FOUR GO-KART AS A LIST IN PROHIBITED USES IN ARTICLE FOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SECTION EIGHT.
UM, WE HAD FIRST READING, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ON, ON NOT JUST CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING FIRST AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT YOU HAVE.
SO, UH, FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ITEM UNDER, UH, OUR FINAL READING.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THAT? LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THE MOTION.
SO SECOND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ITEM.
I JUST MENTIONED THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ITEM THAT I JUST MENTIONED UNDER, UH, NUMBER NINE ON OUR AGENDA PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
MR. E-CARD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO THIS? UM, NO.
MA'AM I WAS JUST GOING TO LET YOU KNOW, AT YOUR FIRST READING YOU, UH, APPROVED, UH, THE ORDINANCE AS YOU'D ALREADY STATED AND EXPRESSED.
UM, AND THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES SINCE THAT TIME.
UM, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AND I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOU FOR SECOND READING.
HAPPY TO GO OVER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, IF YOU NEED TO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'M ABLE TO ANSWER THEM QUESTIONS OF MR. E-CARD ON THIS.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES MADE AT FIRST.
NO MA'AM TODD, IS THERE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE BELFAIR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXT TO AMEND PROPOSED USES TO ADD THE USE INDOOR ELECTRIC GO-CART FACILITY TO THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES AND ADD OUTDOOR GO-KART RACING FACILITY UNDER PROHIBITED USES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE BELFAIR PLAN UNITE UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN, ARTICLE FOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN SECTION SUBSECTION A SIX NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION THERE SECOND.
WITH TYPE POET WOULD ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING AYE? AYE.
I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HELP THE COMPETITION CHALLENGE YOU KEVIN CHALLENGE TO KEVIN.
UM, THAT'S IT, WHEN IT OPENED SO VERY EXCITED.
AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT KNOW.
UM, WE HAVE FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS,
[X.1. Consideration of Adoption of the Wright Family Park Rental and Fee Schedule- Bryan McIlwee, Director of Engineering]
THE CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF THE RIGHT FAMILY PART RENTAL AND FEE SCHEDULE.[00:15:01]
MCCULLEY.HOW ARE YOU? HOW'S IT REALLY YOU'RE GOOD.
SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THE RIGHT FAMILY PARK RENTAL AND FEE SCHEDULE.
UH, I JUST WANT TO START OFF WITH A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND REFRESHER.
UM, THE TOWN IN BEAVER COUNTY PURCHASED THE PARCEL IN JUNE, 2017 AND JANUARY, 2018.
WE HAD A CIP WORKSHOP WHERE WE WENT OVER SOME CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN IDEAS BASED OFF OF THAT WORKSHOP.
WE DEVELOPED THE FINAL MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN JULY OF 2018.
IT INCLUDED, UM, RESTROOMS PARKING ON CALHOUN STREET, A BULKHEAD ALONG THE RIVER, UH, AN OPEN LAWN AREA WITH WALKWAYS SEATING AND INSIGHT FURNITURE, LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING.
AND OF COURSE THE SCARP OF CARRIAGE HOUSE AND AUGUST, 2019 TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE, UM, CODIFIED THE RULES FOR THE PARK AND THEY'RE LISTED HERE.
AND I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO CALL OUT A NUMBER OR A LETTER, A, IT WAS OPEN FOR PUBLIC USE AND SPECIAL EVENTS FROM SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
UM, WE OPENED THE PARK IN 2020, DECEMBER, 2020.
AND THEN IN JANUARY, 2021, WE HAD A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE FY 21 BUDGET AMENDMENT.
BASED OFF OF THAT WORKSHOP, UM, COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE USE FOR THE PARK.
WE PUT PUBLISHED THAT SURVEY, UH, FROM FEBRUARY 24TH TO MARCH 26, WE PUT IT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, FACEBOOK NEXT DOOR IN LINKEDIN.
AND THEN WE DID AN IN-PERSON SURVEY, UH, THE PARK VISITORS ON, ON MARCH 17TH ON ST.
SO HERE'S THE, UH, RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY.
UM, 62% ARE IN FAVOR OF, UH, RENTING AND HAVING SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE PARK.
UH, 87% THINK THE PARKS SHOULD REMAIN OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE DURING THOSE RENTALS AND EVENTS.
83% THINK THERE SHOULD BE DAYTIME DAY AND TIME RESTRICTIONS FOR RENTALS AND EVENTS.
UM, MOST OF THOSE HAD TO DO WITH EVENTS AT THE CHURCH.
UM, 89% WERE RESIDENTS OF BLUFFTON AND 95% WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE PART, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT 10% OR THE 10 FOLKS WHO WEREN'T FAMILIAR WITH, WANTED TO DO THE SURVEY, BUT THERE YOU GO.
SO BASED OFF OF THAT, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE BASICALLY FOLLOW THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK, UM, RENTAL FEES, AND THAT'S THE ONLY EAST SIDE OF WALL STREET.
SO, UM, THAT THAT'S THE AREA THAT'S ON THE WATER.
THAT WOULD BE A $300 PER DAY RENTAL FEE.
IF YOU WERE ONLY HAVING A 400 OR FOUR HOUR EVENT, IT'D BE $150.
UM, AND YOU SEE THE SECURITY DEPOSITS A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN LESS THAN A FULL DAY, UM, AGAIN, $150 AND THE TOWN MANAGER CAN WAIVE THESE FEES IF IT'S DETERMINED TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN.
UM, TYPICAL RULES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE OTHER PARKS WITH THAT, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE BUDGET THAT CHRIS IS GOING TO PRESENT THAT, UH, FEE SCHEDULE IS LISTED THERE.
UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK AND WE RECOMMEND THAT IT'S A NON-EXCLUSIVE RENTAL AND SPECIAL EVENT USAGE OF THE PARK, UM, AND THAT THEY WON'T CONFLICT WITH PLANNED CHURCH ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS CHURCH SERVICES, WEDDINGS, ET CETERA.
WE CAN'T ALWAYS PLAN FOR A FUNERAL.
SO SOMEBODY, UM, RINSE THE PARK SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE, AND THERE'S A FUNERAL.
THERE MAY BE A CONFLICT THERE.
UM, BUT LINDY SEMINARS, SHE'S BEEN AN AMAZING ADDITION TO STAFF AS OUR SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR.
SO SHE'LL COORDINATE WITH THE CHURCHES, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT THERE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO QUESTION.
UM, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE TABLE THAT LISTS, UM, LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE RENTAL.
I THINK I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT A WARMING KITCHEN.
SO, UM, WITH THAT AND LOOKING AT THE FEE SCHEDULE, WOULDN'T THAT REQUIRE THAT, UM, SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN AFTER THE, THE PARTICIPANTS OF THAT EVENT HAVE LEFT.
SOMEONE HAS TO COME IN AND CLEAN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH OYSTER WITH THE OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
I MEAN, A STAFF WOULD COME IN, THE PUBLIC WORKS, COMES IN AFTERWARDS AND USUALLY CLEANS UP, BUT THEN WE ALSO, UH, IF THEY LEFT IT AND COMPLETE THIS POSITIVE BACK, WE WOULD USE THAT TO HELP CLEAN IT.
SO I WAS SAYING IN, IN CONSIDERING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT MAYBE A MIDDLE POINT BECAUSE I KNOW THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR, UM, FOR THE OSCAR FRAZIER PARK IS A LITTLE MORE, UM, I DON'T SEE THAT IT SHOULD BE A HUGE UPCHARGE, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK IN OR STAFF WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND CLEAN.
UM, AFTER THAT EVENTS IS CLOSED AND SAY, WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERIOR.
MAYBE THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY COOK AT THE ROTARY
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CENTER.WHEREAS THE KITCHEN AT THE RIGHT FAMILY PARK IS JUST TO WARM FOOD.
LIKE THE FOOD WOULD ALREADY HAVE TO BE PREPARED AND YOU PUT IT IN A WARMING OVEN, BASICALLY, THERE'S, THERE'D BE NO COOKING REALLY DAIRY AT THAT KITCHEN, BUT WE CAN ADD SOMETHING BACK TO IT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT QUESTION, BRIAN, IF I MAY, UM, WE SAY WEDDINGS INTERFERING WITH CHURCH.
ARE WE GOING TO STRUCTURE THAT AS FAR AS WEDDING COMES FIRST, I MEAN, ABBOTT RESERVED OR SOME RESONANT, HAS IT RESERVED FOR A WEDDING NEXT DAY OR A WEEK LATER, WHATEVER.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A WEDDING AT THE CHURCH AS PRIORITY THE FIRST, THE FIRST TWO RESERVE.
UM, I CAN JUST SEE IT HAPPENING AND THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST THE COORDINATION BETWEEN LINDY AND THE CHURCHES, IF SHE GETS, UH, AN EVENT, UM, WE, WE POST OUR EVENT RENTALS ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, BUT SHE COULD SHARE THAT WITH A WEEKLY, UM, L TO THE CHURCHES AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE SOMEBODY LINED UP FOR JULY, WHATEVER.
UM, AND THEN MAKE THEM AWARE OF IT.
I CAN'T SAY THERE WON'T BE ANY CONFLICTS.
THERE'S PROBABLY ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN OVERLAP OF PEOPLE WANTING TO USE THAT AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN IDEAL PLACE FOR A WEDDING.
SO IT'S, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ALSO ON THE, UM, IF YOU PUT IT BACK ON THE, THE HOURS ALL DAY, UM, FOR OUR SCHEDULE, UM, WHOLE DAY, WHAT IS CONSIDERED A FULL DAY? IS THAT DAYLIGHT TO DARK? IS THAT AN EIGHT HOUR, 10 HOUR, DAY OR SIX HOURS? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY, UM, SOMETHING PERTAINING TO THAT, UM, ACTUAL FOUR HOUR EVENT WHEN YOU GOT AN HOUR BEFORE AND AN HOUR AFTER THAT'S REALLY A SIX HOUR, RIGHT? SO IT'S A SIX HOUR RESERVATION.
SO ONE HOUR SET UP FOR OUR EVENT ONE HOUR, HAVE IT STRUCTURED AT THE OTHER PARKS, I THINK FOR MOST PEOPLE TO, TO DO A FULL DAY JUST TO DO A SIX HOUR OR MAYBE DO AN EIGHT HOUR, SIX HOUR.
I'M TRYING TO ENVISION WHAT KIND OF EVENT WOULD BE ALL DAY.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY FEELINGS THAT IT WAS MORE FOR LOWER KEY THINGS SUCH AS A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR A WEDDING ORDER, WHICH EVERYONE WANTS.
WELL, I KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT USE OF LIKE OUR PARTS.
IF SOMEONE RENTS IT FOR A FULL DAY, IT MORE SO GIVES THEM ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO SET UP EARLIER.
WHEREAS IF YOU ONLY CHOOSE THE, THE FOUR HOUR OPTION RIGHT NOW, YOU ONLY HAVE AN HOUR FOR SETUP.
AND IF SOMEONE'S PLANNING FOR A WEDDING AND BRINGING IN TABLES AND TENTS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, THEN YOU'D BE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL HOUR CHARGE PRETTY MUCH TO SET UP.
WHEREAS IF YOU GET AN, A FULL DAY, YOU CAN GO IN AND SET UP WHATEVER.
SO IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN EVENT FROM, YOU KNOW, 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM, JUST GIVES THEM MORE TIME TO SET UP AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL TIME TO COME BACK AND BREAK IT DOWN.
AND I ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THOSE AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE AND THE RENTALS COME IN AT 8:00 AM, BUT THE WEDDING WASN'T UNTIL FOUR.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO THOSE RENTAL COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE IN TIME AND NOT.
SO I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT TILL YOU JUST SAID THAT.
UM, SO I GUESS WE'RE GOOD TO WAIT HAVING THAT MAKES SENSE.
QUESTIONS OVER HERE, GIRLFRIEND.
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID ADD SOME PARKING DOWN ON CASHEW INDUSTRY AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE MARTIN FAMILY PARK, UM, WHICH VERY CLOSE TO WALKING DISTANCE.
YOU CAN PARK ON COUNTY STREET.
IF YOU'RE HAVING A HUGE EVENT, IT WILL BE AN ISSUE.
CAN WE PUT, UH, IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THEY HAVE TO FIND OFFSITE PARKING BECAUSE IT IS DURING, AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SATURDAYS.
YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER EVENTS ARE GOING TO BE EVENING WHEN THE STORES ARE CLOSED.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF PARKING, BUT IS THERE A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK YOU COULD PUT IN? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT FOR THE BUDGET TOO.
CAUSE THIS WOULD GO IN THE BUDGET.
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UM, BUT LINDY ALWAYS HAS A PRE EVENT MEETING WITH EVERYBODY.AND SO SHE COULD SAY THAT, HEY, IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE ASK THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING? AND SHE CAN SAY, OKAY, PARKING IS, UM, TIGHT DOWN THERE, PLEASE ADVISE YOUR GUESTS TO PARK THAT MARTIN FAMILY OR TO, OR ON COUNTY STREET, UM, MICROMANAGING PUTTING IT UNDER ADDITIONAL NOTES, LIKE, UH, A NUMBER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER, UM, SOMEWHAT.
OR IS THAT JUST BEING TOO PICKY? YEAH.
I MEAN, I JUST, I THINK SHE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT, UM, I THOUGHT I LIKED THE NUMBER IDEA.
I THINK THAT, I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT 200 PEOPLE ON THE APPLICATION, YOU JUST DON'T WANT THAT.
AND IT WOULD JUST MAKE A MOCKERY OF EVERYTHING AND THEN EVERYBODY WOULD BE TAKING CHURCH PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT THE FEE SCHEDULE WORKS BECAUSE I SUSPECT THIS IS GOING TO END UP BEING A PRIME PIECE OF REAL ESTATE FOR OUR TOWN.
AND I, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE LOW PRICES LIKE THIS, LIKE THERE ARE EVERYWHERE ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO GO DOWN THERE.
SO, AND THEN IN DIFFERENT CLARITY FOR ME, BRIAN, UM, GO BACK TO THE BAR GRAPH FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE.
SO YOU KNOW, THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS WANT THE PARK TO REMAIN OPEN.
SO IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? THAT THE PARK WILL REMAIN OPEN IF YOU HAVE A WEDDING DOWN THERE.
SO YOU CAN STILL WALK AROUND THE PERIMETER AND EVERYTHING AND THEY JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SIMILAR TO HAVING A WEDDING AT THE BEACH.
YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE WALKING BY.
I LIKE THOSE COMMENTS ON THAT.
UM, ARE WE GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT THE PARK IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY? YES.
SO I'VE WROTE, UM, THE RATES FOR THAT, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A NOTE TO LINDY, UH, THE RENTAL SCHEDULE.
I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE SEND IT TO THE CHURCH.
AND THEN THE CHURCH IN TURNS, I MEAN, THOSE WEDDINGS ARE PLANNED A YEAR OUT.
THEY KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THEIR SCHEDULES TOO.
SO I WOULD HOPE LINDY AND ALL THE CHURCHES ARE CON IT'S NOT JUST US GIVING THEM RIGHT.
ONCE THIS BECOMES LIVE, SHE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT.
WE JUST KNOW THAT'S NOT A DAY.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO FIND SOMETHING, CLARIFY THE NUMBER I'VE GOT THE NUMBER.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING
MAYBE IF IT'S DURING THE DAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BOTHER IT IS GOING TO BE HARD ON A SUNDAY BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAPPENS AGAIN.
IT WOULDN'T COINCIDE WITH A CHURCH, SIR, GO INSIDE WITH A CHURCH SERVICE.
DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER POSSIBLY NOT RUNNING IT ON SUNDAY? I THINK THAT IT WOULD SHOW THE CHURCHES THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT.
WE DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH.
THEY ALSO HAVE SATURDAY EVENING SERVICES WHEN WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE CHURCHES THAT THEY MENTIONED THAT CAN WE DO THAT? WE NEED TO BE UNILATERAL BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE WITH, FOR ZION.
AND SO THE OSHA FACTORY PARK DOESN'T HAVE THOSE TYPES OF PROHIBITIONS IN TERMS OF WHEN THAT CHURCH HAS HAVING SERVICES OR ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
SO I THINK WE HAVE, IF WE DO ONE FOR ONE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT SAME, UM, SAME REGARD FOR THE OTHERS AS WELL, RIGID DESIGN HAVE THEIR OWN POCKET.
UM, WE CREATING A PROBLEM WHEN WE BUY PEOPLE TO THE PARK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CREATE ENOUGH POCKETS, NOT AS THEY WERE JUST SAYING, I'M SAYING NO, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE MITIGATED, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVE PARKING FOR THEIR CHURCH MEMBERS WHEN THERE'S A SUNSET PARTY OR WHATEVER THAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.
AND YOU HAVE CONSIDERATION OF PEOPLE PARKING FOR BOATING AND OTHER THINGS THEY DO END UP USING THAT CHURCH'S PARKING SPACE AND OTHER THINGS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION TO IF THEY HAVE AN EVENT GOING ON.
I'M JUST SAYING WE SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF ANY CHURCH.
IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT CONDITION FOR A RIGHT FAMILY PARK FOR ANY CHURCH THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY ONE OF OUR PARKS IN TERMS OF AN EVENT RENTAL TO YOUR POINT.
I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE HANDLED, UM, PRIMARILY WITH THE CHURCH BECAUSE I, UNLESS THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
I KNOW FROM PAST EXPERIENCE THAT BOTH THE, UH, THE ROTARY CLUB, FOR EXAMPLE, ALWAYS COMMUNICATED WITH FIRST CYAN TO GET PERMISSION, TO USE THE OVERFLOW PARKING.
UM, NOW I HOPE THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT AND I CAN TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS OCCASIONALLY EVEN THE ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL DOES
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THE SAME THING.UM, AND SOMETIMES IT MAKES A DONATION TO THE CHURCH, BUT TO YOUR POINT, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON DOWN THERE.
LIKE THE ONE YOU JUST MENTIONED, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, GET WITH LINDY AND LINDY JUST TO COMMUNICATE, RIGHT? SO SHE'S GOING TO START COMMUNICATING WITH CHURCHES AND SHE'S HANDLING ALL THE EVENTS.
I THINK IT'S SAD A RESPECT BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S A FUNDRAISER FOR THE CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, I THINK LINDY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE RATE SCHEDULE? YOU HEARD WHAT THEY SAID IT IS A POP IS GOING TO BE A POPULAR PARK AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MONEY.
THEY'RE GOING TO MESS UP THE GRASS.
I THINK THE RENTAL DEPOSITS LOW FOR THEIR CAUSE I THINK OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO BE CLEANING UP OUTSIDE OF THAT EVENT THING.
I MEAN, WOULD YOU WANT TO DO A $200 SECURITY DEPOSIT PERSONALLY? UM, I THINK IT'LL BE A VERY POPULAR SPOT, BUT I DIDN'T FEEL AS MY PLACE TO PUT A NUMBER OUT THERE THAT THAT WAS TOTALLY OFF SCALE OF WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET.
I WOULD INCREASE IT TO ON THIS ONE.
IT, I, I'M NOT POSITIVE, BUT I THINK TO RENT HONEY HORNELL AND HILTON HEAD FOR A WEDDING EVENT, WHICH IS BASICALLY A BIG GAZEBO BUILDING, IT'S LIKE 2,500 $3,500 FOR THE DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A FEW YEARS BACK, WE REDUCED THE RATES ON THE RENTAL PURPOSELY TRYING TO LET MORE PEOPLE USE THEM FOR DIFFERENT FAMILY.
THAT, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE, I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SPOT FOR WHAT'D YOU SAY 300 BUCKS IS PRETTY, IT'S ABOUT AS CHEAP AS YOU CAN GET.
BUT IF WE WANT TO LET THAT LET THE PEOPLE, OUR RESIDENTS USE IT.
I, I THINK THE FACT THAT THESE NUMBERS TELL YOU RIGHT HERE, THE PUBLIC WANTS TO BE DOWN THERE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EXCLUSIVE, BUT STILL THEY WANT TO BE THERE.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S GOT A HIGH TURNOVER VOLUME AS WE SPEAK.
IT'S IT'S GOING TO GET HEAVILY USED IF WE KEEP THE PRICE FUNDAMENTALLY LOW.
SO AGAIN, AS I SAY, YOU RAISED THE RATE, WHETHER IT'S THREE TO 500, WHATEVER, MAYBE EVEN HIGHER, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THEN MAYBE GO UP ON THE DEPOSIT.
LIKE THE MAYOR SUGGEST, I MEAN, IN A GOOGLE WITH LARRY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE, LIKE TO KNOW IF THESE RAYS ARE COMPATIBLE TO ALL THE OTHER PLUGS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THAT RATE SCHEDULE RIGHT THERE IS EQUIVALENT TO THE EAST SIDE OF OYSTER FACTORY APART.
THIS MY OPINION IS LET'S GIVE IT A SIX MONTHS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, HOW OFTEN WE RENT IT VERSUS REASONS.
SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE ASKED LINDSAY TO START DOING AND PRESENTING TO YOU ALL IN THE CONSENT AGENDA IS GIVEN YOU A LIST OF HOW MANY REYNOLDS WE HAD AT EACH FACILITY EACH MONTH.
SO YOU'LL SEE, AND I'M BETTING, IT ALL STARTS SKEWING HIGH.
THIS IS GOING TO PULL PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE TOWN COMING IN.
I THINK I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE OTHER RATES.
CAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, AND I HATE TO SAY JUST PLUFF AND WE CAN'T BECAUSE BUFORD COUNTY IS PART OF IT.
SO IT HAS TO BE PART OF BUFORD COUNTY.
BUT, UM, MAYBE WE LOOK AT IT, LIKE FRED SAID SIX MONTHS, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WE'RE GETTING INTO THE SUMMER.
IF WE SEE A LOT OF USE, CAN WE COME BACK IN? ARE WHATEVER TIME YOU COME BACK TO US AND PUT A NOTE TO LET'S REALLY LOOK AT IT.
UM, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THE SUNDAY? I MEAN, CHURCHES OVER ON SUNDAY AFTER ONE, I MEAN AN EVENING, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE HAVING WEDDINGS ON SUNDAY.
AND EVERYTHING'S SO EXPENSIVE.
UM, AND YOU SAY WE'RE NOT RENTING IT DURING CHURCH HOURS, YOU'RE IN PLANNED CHURCH ACTIVITIES OR CHURCH ACTIVITIES.
SO THAT IS GONNA BE THE SATURDAY EVENING CHURCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR SERVICES.
WHENEVER THERE'S A CHURCH SERVICE, WE WON'T, WE WON'T BE RENTING IN ANY WAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D RESTRICT IT OTHER THAN THAT, BECAUSE I THINK VERY LIKELY THAT IF THEY'RE FOR SURE EVERY SATURDAY AND HAVE CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME, THEN GOT YOU A TEACHER.
ANYTHING ELSE ARE, Y'ALL HAPPY.
I'M GIVING A FRIEND SUGGESTION AS FAR AS TRYING IT AND YEAH.
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FIT, LOOKS LIKE IT'S GETTING OUT OF HIM.BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, FOR LINDY TO KEEP US ABREAST, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GETS 30, 40 RENTALS OUT TWO AND THREE YEARS, UM, WHAT IS THE, HOW FAR OUT CAN YOU RENT? IT? SHOULDN'T BE, UM, WE HAVE A LIMIT.
UM, DO THEY PAY, DO THEY CAN, DO THEY KNOW THEY PAID THE RENT RATE AT THE TIME OF SECURITY DEPOSIT WHEN THEY APPLY? UM, YEAH, I CAN SEE.
AND I KNOW THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHERE THEY, THEY PUT A SECURITY DEPOSIT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S NO MORE THAN A HUNDRED BUCKS ON SEVERAL PLACES, FILL THE DATE GETS CLOSER IN THE WEATHER FORECAST GETS MORE ACCURATE AND ONE MORE TRICK TO THE PRICING.
ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT THAT LET'S GO WITH WHAT FRED SUGGESTED? I MEAN, IT IS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WE CAN MANAGE IT FOR SIX MONTHS AND LET'S LINDY IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF ALL OUR PARKS ANYWAY.
SO SHE'S GOING TO KNOW WHO'S PUTTING THE DEPOSIT DOWN.
I GUESS I'M ASKING, ARE WE GOING TO LET PEOPLE MAKE RESERVATIONS FROM THREE YEARS FROM NOW? IF THEY CALLED TOMORROW, I DON'T KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE TRIAL SIX MONTH PERIOD.
YOU CAN'T GO PAST SIX MONTHS AND THEN THE TOWN COUNCIL WILL REVIEW IT AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT LINDA NEEDS TO BE INSTRUCTED.
I HEARD FRED SAY, LET'S PASS THIS CLARIFY, LET'S PASS THIS AND LOOK AT IT FOR SIX MONTHS.
AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? LIKE LARRY SAYS, IF HE GETS BOOKED WAY OUT AND YEAH, THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THE RATES COULD CHANGE.
CAN YOU DO THAT? AND I KNOW THIS IS SO DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER ONES, BUT THIS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PARK AND EVERYONE'S LICKING THEIR CHOPS.
YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT HAVE TO BE TREATED SEPARATELY FROM OUR OTHER PARTS.
UM, WHAT ARE WE COMING BACK IN SIX MONTHS TO LOOK AT IF, TO DETERMINE IF WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE RATE OR KEEP IT AS IS.
SO IN, IN THAT SIX MONTH TIME, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? IF AN INCREASE IS NEEDED OR NOT? WHAT THINGS COME TO MIND FOR ME, BRIDGET IS HOW, HOW OFTEN WE RENT IN IT.
AND THAT'S US KNOW IF WE NEED TO RENT IT.
IF, IF WE JUST NEED IT FIVE TIMES PER YEAR AT RATE WHERE WE CAN MANAGE.
UM, AND WE COULD LOOK AT TO SEE, WELL IN THE SO HIVE, THEN WE, MAYBE WE NEED EASE, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE FEES COVER OUR EXPENSES.
YOU ALSO COULD SEE HOW MANY LONGER THAN A YEAR OUT RESERVATIONS THERE ARE GRANDFATHERED THOSE IN AND THEN INCREASE IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW, PEOPLE RESERVE THINGS THREE YEARS OUT.
HAVE WE EVER HAD THAT HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE THAT MAYBE, MAYBE WE COME BACK BEFORE SIX MONTHS AND LINDY TELLS BRIAN, HOLD ON, MAYBE IT IS GETTING RENTED FURTHER OUT AND THEN WE CAN ADJUST.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO, TO THE POINT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU SAID A FRIEND OR WHOEVER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAS LOTS OF USAGE, JUST RAISING THE RATES IS NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE BAR GRAPH, THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF COMMENTS WHERE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO THERE AND BE THERE.
SO AGAIN, THEN YOU'RE ALMOST IN CONFLICT, CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER.
SO IF IT STARTS TO GET HIGH USAGE, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF USAGE TO IT AND PROBABLY RAISE THE RAISE AT THE SAME TIME.
I KNOW YOU JUST WANT THIS TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S START AT, THIS IS ALL GOOD.
NOW LET'S GET IT GOING, BUT KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PARK.
I THINK, UM, LINDY WHEN SHE TAKES IT, TELL THEM, OKAY, IF IT'S BETWEEN NOW AND SIX MONTHS, IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT IF YOU'RE RENTING IT OR RESERVING IT AFTER SIX MONTHS, BE AWARE THAT IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE, UM, TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND THEN IF IT COMES BACK IN THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE'LL TAKE IT AND SHE CAN CALL THOSE FOLKS OUT.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL? I THINK YOU CAN AMEND YOUR RECOMMENDED MOTION LANGUAGE THAT BRIAN HAS SUPPORT HAS FOR YOU TO INCLUDE A SIX MONTH TRIAL PERIOD FOR RE-EVALUATION AFTER SIX MONTHS OF RENTAL UNDER THE, UH, SPECIFICATIONS AND GUIDELINES THAT BRIAN HAS PRESENTED BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO A LOT OF SITUATIONS AND BEAR IN MIND, THIS PARK IS ONLY OPEN FROM SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
AND SO ITS AVAILABILITY WILL CHANGE A GREAT DEAL FROM WINTER TO SUMMER.
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WE MAY FIND THAT THE FREQUENCY OF RENTALS IS TOO MUCH AND IT'S TOO MUCH STRAIN ON THE LAWN.AND THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO REST THAT, BUT THIS FIRST SIX MONTH PERIOD WILL TELL US THAT, ESPECIALLY, UH, DURING THE SUMMER, WHEN WE HAVE A HIGH GROWTH OF THE GRASS AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING REGULAR ROUTINE LANDSCAPING AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I THINK A SIX MONTH TRIAL PERIOD, IF YOU PUT THAT LANGUAGE INTO YOUR MOTION, YOU CAN COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN SIX MONTHS AND YOU CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON, UH, UH, HOW WAS THAT WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE SAME THING? UM, AND I THINK WE LEAVE IT UP TO THIS AS SEPARATE, BUT EVEN PUBLIC WORKS THAT THEY FEEL THAT WE NEED TO SHUT IT DOWN FOR A WHILE FOR EVENTS, WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THEM, THEY'LL KNOW.
WE DO NEED TO DO, UM, PERIODIC MAINTENANCE TO THE, EXACTLY.
WE NEED TO AIRY IN TOP SEED AND STUFF LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO THERE'LL BE PARTS WHERE IT WILL BE CLOSED DOWN.
SO ANY OTHER THOUGHTS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS RECOMMENDATION? I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T HAVE IT, UM, UH, WITH, UH, OKAY.
BUT LET'S SAY TERRY, DID YOU HEAR WHAT SCOTT SAID WITH A SIX MONTH REVIEW? YOU PLAY FOR SIX MONTHS WITH A SIX MONTH REVIEW THAT WILL MATCH WITH CHRIS'S MID-YEAR BUDGET, UM, TO PROVE IT SUBJECT FOR SIX MONTHS OF ALL PHASE AND USES.
I DIDN'T PUT THE MOTION IN, SO I DON'T KNOW.
DO YOU WANT TO PULL THE STAFF REPORT UP NOW? I LIKED THAT OTHER WHAT YOU JUST HAD.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE AS PART OF THE 22 BUDGET WITH RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUSLY PROVED RIGHT.
FAMILY PARK RULES, UM, WITH A SIX MONTH REVIEW OF ALL FEES AND USAGE, YOUR SECOND, SECOND SESSION.
DO, DO YOU KNOW THAT THAT NEXT BULLET IS INCLUDED? DO I NEED TO MAKE TWO MOTIONS OR SHOULD I AMEND IT? AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY SUFFICIENT.
DO YOU THINK TERRY, IS THIS OKAY? OKAY.
SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT'S LISTED THERE.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
I'LL BE SURE TO INCLUDE THE MOTIONS IN FUTURE.
PUT THAT RECOMMENDATION IN THERE.
UM, I SHOULD HAVE ADDED ON IS BRIAN MCELWEE SWINGS ON THE SWING RED, THIS SWING, THIS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT EVER.
BRIAN YOU'RE UP, UM, CONSIDERATION
[X.2. Consideration of Proposed Lighting Agreement with Dominion Energy Relating to the LED Conversion Program - Bryan McIlwee, Director of Engineering]
OF PROPOSED LIGHTING AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION ENERGY RELATING TO THE LED CONVERSION PROGRAM.SO I'M GOING TO, I'M USING DOMINION'S, UM, PRESENTATION THAT THEY GAVE TO STAFF.
UH, THEY CAME TO US FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT THIS CONVERSION PROGRAM FROM HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE LIGHTING TO LED LIGHTING.
UH, BASICALLY THE BACKGROUND IS OUR CURRENT LIGHTS ARE MAINLY ALL HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE.
THEY'RE A HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM METAL HAYLIGHT MERCURY VAPOR.
THOSE ARE THE COLORS THAT COME FROM THOSE, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTS, UM, LED.
I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
WE, THEY'RE MORE OF A WIDER LIGHT, IT'S MORE NEWER TECHNOLOGY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BULBS RIGHT THERE.
BASICALLY THE, THIS IS THE LIGHTING INTENSITY.
UH, THERE'S LESS SHADOWS, THERE'S MORE COVERAGE WITH THE LED LIGHTING.
UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO DIRECT IT MORE TO WHERE YOU WANT IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE GAPS IN THE LIGHTING LIKE YOU DO WITH THE LIGHTING DIFFERENCE IN THE COLOR.
UM, IT'S MORE OF A WHITER, BRIGHTER LIGHT, UM, AIR TO THE HPS IS THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM THAT'S PART OF THE YELLOW ORANGE LIGHT VIDEO YOU'RE COMMONLY USED TO SEEING.
UM, SO THEY CAME TO US BECAUSE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BEEN COMING TO DOMINION, UH, REQUESTING THE MOVE TO LED.
IT'S MORE, UM, I GUESS ENERGY, IT'S A NEWER TECHNOLOGY, THE LIGHTS LAST LONGER, THERE'S LESS MAINTENANCE TO IT.
UM, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE LED PRICING IS STILL MORE EXPENSIVE THAN, UH, UH, D LIGHTING.
SO THEY CAME TO US WITH THIS CONVERSION CONTRACT, WHICH INVOLVES A FIVE-YEAR INCENTIVE.
AND BASICALLY IT'S TAKING NON DECORATIVE POLES ON DECORATIVE LIGHTING AND CONVERTING THOSE TO THE LED.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE ONES THAT QUALIFY VERSUS THE ONES THAT DON'T.
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SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A 10 YEAR CONTRACT.IT'S A FIVE-YEAR INCENTIVES AND I'LL GET TO THE RIGHT CENTER IN A SECOND.
AND THEY ASSUME THAT AFTER THE END OF THESE FIVE YEARS, THAT THE COSTS OF HID LIGHTING WILL CONTINUE TO RISE AND LED WILL CONTINUE TO DROP.
AND IT'S THE NEWER TECHNOLOGY.
SO, UM, AS THAT TECHNOLOGY COMES BETTER, IT WILL DECREASE IN COST.
UM, THE INCENTIVES MAY CONTINUE IN FUTURE CONTRACTS, BUT THEY'LL BE LOWER THAN WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'LL BE FOR FIVE YEARS, A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT ON THE LEFT COLUMN IN RED, THAT IS OUR BEST.
THEIR CURRENT LED COST PER MONTH BASED ON ALL THE LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A 14, THEY'LL SAY 45 A MONTH.
AND AFTER THE END OF THE TEN-YEAR TOTAL OR 10 YEAR CONTRACT, THAT WOULD EQUATE TO $170,912.
CURRENTLY THE COST IS $1,200 A MONTH FOR OUR HA HID LIGHTING.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF 144, 900 A MONTH OR A YEAR OVER THAT 10 YEAR TIME SPAN WITH THE INCENTIVES FOR FIVE YEARS, THAT $20,000.
SO BASICALLY AT THE END OF THIS PROPOSED CONTRACT, THE, THE AMOUNT THAT THE TOWN WOULD PAY IS $150,768.
DO THE MATH BASED ON 10 YEARS AT THE CURRENT RATE, WE BASICALLY WOULD BE SPENDING MORE ABOUT $5,000 MORE OVER THAT 10 YEAR SPAN, BUT THAT ASSUMES NO RATE CHANGE.
IF THE HID RATES GO UP 10%, WHICH I HAVE A FEMALE FROM DOMINIONS AND THEY EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, WE WILL COME OUT NET POSITIVE OVER THAT 10 YEARS.
UM, IF IT CHANGES ANYTIME IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE WILL COME OUT AHEAD VERSUS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING.
AGAIN, SOME ADVANTAGES TO THE LED, BETTER QUALITY LIGHTING, UM, OR UNIFORMITY.
I WON'T SAY IT'S BRIGHTER, BUT IT'S, IT'S WIDER.
IT'S MORE, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SHADOWS THAT, THAT THE CURRENT LIGHTS COST, UM, NO UPFRONT CHARGES.
IT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, CONVERSION PROGRAM.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THIS COMMUNICATION NODE, WHERE THEY CAN GO IN AND, UM, CREATE DEMING CAPABILITIES IN THE FUTURE.
BASICALLY THEY CAN CONTROL IT FROM, UH, DOMINIONS, UM, UH, QUARTERS, I GUESS, FROM THEIR CONTROL CENTER.
AND HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, THE ONE ON TOP OF WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW, AND THEN THAT'S THE LIGHT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO IT'S NOT DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT, UM, FROM A AESTHETIC VIEW, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE POLLS RIGHT NOW, DOMINION THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS.
LIKE I SAID, THEY CAME TO US, THEY'RE GETTING CONTRACTS FROM MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT NOW.
THEY STARTED DEPLOYING THIS, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
UM, I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD OF WHAT THEIR LEAD TIME IS THERE.
THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR US TO GET THIS CONTRACT SIGNED, BUT I CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AT A LATER TIME.
SO THE NEXT STEPS IS, UH, BASICALLY SIGNING THE CONTRACT, IDENTIFYING ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTS, IF WE WANT TO ADD ANY, UH, AND THEN DETERMINE, UM, I GUESS THE WATTAGE OR THE INTENSITY OF THOSE LIGHTS, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN CHANGE, BUT WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER BRIGHT.
THAT LOOKS LIKE A RUNWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, BRIGHT ENOUGH TO LIGHT DIMLY LIT AREAS.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE MAP THAT GAVE ME, IT'S MAINLY IN THE OLD TOWN AREA.
UM, THAT'S THAT'S BLUFFTON ROAD.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE LIGHTS THAT YOU SEE JUST OUT ON THE WOODEN, UH, TELEPHONE POLES, POWER POLES, MAY RIVER MAY RIVER STREETS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE DECORATIVE LIGHTS, UH, THIS IS REALLY HARD TO SEE.
I APOLOGIZE, BUT THAT'S THE MAGIC HAVE YOU TO ASK ANY OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND TRY TO ANSWER THAT I'M NOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.
SO IF YOU GET TECHNICAL ON ME, I'M GOING TO FREE UP MORE THAN SINCE HE'S ASKED QUESTIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO WHAT'S THE PATTERN.
YOU PUT UP A TYPE THREE PATTERN, WHICH IS A BETTER PATTERN THAN THE TYPE FIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SEE THE TOWN DEVELOP IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO OR THREE IS A GREEN ENERGY PLAN AND UTILITIES ARE HISTORICALLY SLOW TO COME AROUND.
I MEAN, THE LED'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
THEY'VE GOT PLANNED INVESTMENT AND THIS WAY THEY WAIT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, ONE THING I'M CURIOUS, UH, TWO THINGS, UM, TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION NODE.
DID THEY OFFER THAT IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE? IT WAS FROM WHATEVER.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A CAPABILITY OF THE LIGHT THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY CAN EDIT IT.
THE REASON I ASK IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS LEFT UP TO THE CUSTOMER TO REPORT THE LIGHT OUT.
AND SOMETIMES THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE AND THIS WOULD AUTOMATICALLY REPORT THE LIGHT OUT.
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UM, THAT'S ONE.AND THEN THE OTHER THING TO TIE HEAD THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE, UM, AND, AND WHAT YOU JUST INDICATED ON YOUR MAP.
SO ONLY STREET LIGHTING ON WOODEN POLES, OR EITHER A METAL POLE AT SOME POINT, NOT DECORATIVE FIXTURES ANYWHERE LIKE THAT, TO BE REPLACED, NOT THE SHEPHERD'S CROOK THAT WE HAVE ON MAY RIVER ROAD OR COUNTY STREET.
UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS WITH DOTS, LIKE ON NGOZI AND SCHULTZ ARE THOSE WHERE THE WOODEN POLES ARE LIKE, OKAY, SEE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO SMALLER.
SEE KIND OF ON YOUR BOTTOM LEFT, WHERE IT'S COME FROM TOY FIELDS AND KITTY ROAD, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? ARE THOSE LIGHTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? ARE THOSE EVERY BITE, ANY 0.1 HERE WITH A NUMBER BESIDE, IT WOULD BE THE LIGHTS OF THE, OKAY.
SO THE GUTHY ROAD, 96 OF THEM, I BELIEVE GO THROUGH ROAD HAS A LOT OF THEM.
AND WE WERE JUST DOING, WE JUST DID THAT LIGHTING FILM, RIGHT? UH, THOSE WERE RELATIVELY NEW.
SO WILL THEY BE TAKEN DOWN AND REPLACED? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN ON THIS? THEY SAID THE LED LIGHTS IS GOING TO COME DOWN AND CAUSE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, THAT'S WHAT THEY BELIEVE, WHICH IS CLOSE OR ON SERVICE COSTS LEAVE.
IT'S THE, WE DON'T HAVE TO PURCHASE THESE THAT'S PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
THAT'S THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT IS WE'RE JUST PAYING THAT MONTHLY RATE.
UM, BUT, UH, JUST THE COST IN GENERAL HAVE LED TO PRODUCE IT, TO INSTALL IT.
THEY BELIEVE THAT WILL COME DOWN.
WHEREAS THE HID LIGHTING WILL CONTINUE TO RISE.
SO THEY SAID THAT RATE WENT UP 15% LAST YEAR, BUT THEY DIDN'T CHARGE IT TO US, BUT THEY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO GO UP ANOTHER 10% THIS YEAR, WHICH THEY WILL CHARGE US FOR THE HID.
SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, WE ENDED UP COMING OUT ON TOP, OVER THE 10 YEAR CONTRACT.
THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO TRUST BRIAN, MY NAME IS COST DRIVERS.
I WISH DOMINION WAS HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.
UM, WELL, I WILL SAY LED IS WAY BETTER THAN ALL THOSE OTHER LIGHTS.
I USED TO HAVE THOSE TYPE ON MY BOAT AND THE BULBS WERE VERY EXPENSIVE AND PUT LED AND IT'S THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN A QUESTION IS THE CONTRACT PART.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING THEM FOR THE ELECTRICITY TO RUN THE OTHER LIGHTS, WHICH IS, OR THEN THE LEDS ARE GOING TO BURN BECAUSE THEY DON'T DRAW AS MUCH POWER.
SO THE, I BELIEVE WHAT'S THE BIG THING.
WHAT ARE THEY? I MEAN, WHAT IS THE CON THE CONTRACT IS FOR REPLACING THE LIGHTS.
ELECTRIC WOULD GO DOWN ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T USE THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THAT THESE OTHER STYLE FIXTURES DO.
SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO THE ANSWER.
I CAN'T ANSWER THE MATH THAT THEY CAME INTO THEIR MONTHLY COST, BUT YEAH, YOU DO END UP SAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, ENERGY.
THEY SAY 56,000 KILOWATT HOURS A YEAR AND SAVING.
SO YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT GOING GREEN AND BEING MORE SUSTAINABLE, UM, IS LESS INTERNATIONAL.
AND THEY LAST LONGER, THEY DON'T BURN OUT AS OFTEN.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THEIR ACTUAL NUMBERS IN A YEAR IF WE CAN MAKE TO US ON WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
UM, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY, OKAY, SO JUST A LITTLE BALL.
THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, ABLE TO DIM AND ALL THAT.
IS IT COMING ON THE LIGHT AND IT'S GOING TO BE USED LATER OR DO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND PUT THAT ON THE LIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN FIND OUT.
ANYTHING ELSE? I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
IF WE'RE GROWING, IF IT SHOWS WE'RE GOING GREEN AND IF IT CAN SAVE US MONEY, LET'S COUNSEL YOU PUT UP WHAT YOU THINK THAT MOTION SHOULD BE.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION FOR THE LED CONVERSION PROGRAM PROJECT? THIS AGREEMENT INCLUDES A COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR $150,768 AND 60 CENTS FOR THE TEN-YEAR LIGHTING AGREEMENT.
SECOND QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, STATE BY SAYING AYE.
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EVENING.UM, NEXT ON OUR ITEM, TEN THREE
[X.3. Consideration of an Ordinance Approving the Town of Bluffton Fiscal Year 2022 Proposed Consolidated Budget - First Reading - Chris Forster, Director of Finance and Administration]
IS CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FISCAL YEAR 2022 PROPOSAL CONSOLIDATED BUDGET.IT IS FIRST REASONING READING WITH THE SEVERAL WORKSHOPS WHERE WE'LL REALLY DIG INTO THESE DETAILS THAT ARE ALREADY ON OUR CALENDAR, CHRIS, YOU'RE UP? ALL RIGHT.
SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, IT WAS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT, THE FY 22 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE TUNNEL OF BLUFFTON.
SO JUST FIRST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE WORK THAT SENIOR STAFF AND THEIR STAFF HAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET, A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE INTERIM TOWN MANAGER FOR HIS GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, VICKY ISAACS FOR ALL THE WORK SHE DOES IN PULLING IT TOGETHER.
AND SHE DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, YOUR GUIDANCE AND VISION FOR, FOR OUR TOWN.
SO FIRST OFF, HERE'S THE, UH, THE APPROVAL PROCESS TONIGHT.
WE HAVE OUR FIRST READING, UM, MAY 18TH IS OUR, UH, FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP, WHICH WE'LL REVIEW IN DETAIL, THE GENERAL FUND, THE STORM WATER FUND AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, MAY 25TH WILL BE A WORKSHOP REVIEWING THE CIP BUDGET.
AND THEN FINALLY THE SECOND FINAL READING IS ON JUNE 8TH.
SO TONIGHT, BRIEFLY WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE ECONOMIC FACTORS THAT WE WEIGHED, UH, WHEN REVIEWING THE, UH, UH, REV, UH, PROJECTED REVENUES, UH, THE BUDGET GOALS THAT DROVE, UH, THE BUDGET, UH, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE'LL DO A RECAP OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO WHEN BEGINNING TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET RESOURCES, UH, WE ASSESSED OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE BEEN GROWING PRETTY RAPIDLY AND WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
UM, PER CAPITA INCOME HAS INCREASED 38% SINCE 2015, MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME INCREASED 28%.
OUR POPULATION, UH, AS OF THE 2019 ESTIMATE IS, UH, ALMOST 26,000.
US CENSUS WILL RELEASE THE, UH, COMMUNITY LEVEL DATA HOPEFULLY SOON.
UM, AND WE EXPECT THAT TO BE CLOSER TO 30,000 WHEN THOSE OFFICIAL NUMBERS COME OUT.
UM, THE SAME TIME PERIOD, YOU KNOW, WITH GROWTH COMES SOME, SOME ISSUES AND CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, OVER THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, UH, RENT HAS INCREASED 28% AND MEDIAN HOME VALUES HAVE INCREASED EVEN FASTER AT 36.7%.
OUR BOND RATING, UH, THIS YEAR WAS AA ONE AND SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE BY OUR RATING AGENCIES WHEN THEY REVIEWED US IS OUR, UH, GROWING TAX BASE, UH, PRUDENT FISCAL MANAGEMENT, OUR STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION AND OUR MODEST DEBT AND PENSION BURDEN.
SO ALL THESE WERE WEIGHED WHEN LOOKING AT OUR EXPECTED REVENUES GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.
UM, THE, THE DRIVERS BEHIND OUR BUDGET FIRST AND FOREMOST IS EVERY YEAR IN JANUARY, YOU ALL MEET TO DISCUSS THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND WHEN WE REVIEW THE REQUESTS THAT COME IN FROM DEPARTMENTS, WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE REQUESTS ARE ALIGNING WITH THOSE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
UM, ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS, FILL, FACILITATE INNOVATION, UH, WITH THE GOAL OF, UH, CONTINUOUS OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AND TO SUPPORT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR, TO OUR CITIZENS ALSO PROPORTION OF RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.
SO WE HAVE IN THERE A RESTORATION OF OUR, OUR, UH, OUR STAFF, UH, PROGRAMS AND INCENTIVES, AND ALSO WE ARE CONDUCTING A CLASS IN COMP STUDY CURRENTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE MARKET FOR, FOR EMPLOYMENT.
AND OF COURSE OUR ROBUST CIP PROGRAM IS, UH, WILL SHOW A VERY STRONG INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE.
BUT THESE ARE THE FOUR BUDGETED FUNDS THAT YOU ALL APPROVE.
THIS IS GENERAL FUNDS, STORMWATER FUND, UH, OR CIP FUND.
AND OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND II CONSOLIDATED BUDGET IS PROPOSED AT $40.1 MILLION.
THIS INCLUDES 22.4 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND 2.2 MILLION IN STORMWATER, 11.6 IN CIP, AND 3.8 IN DEBT SERVICE FUND.
SO HERE IS SHOWING A DECLINE FROM THE FY 21 REVISED BUDGET OF EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT.
UM, JUST WANT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT IN THE FY 21 REVISED INCLUDES THE, UM, THE BOND POSTS FROM THE, UH, UH, BOND WE ISSUED IN JANUARY.
HERE'S THE DISTRIBUTION, OUR CONSOLIDATED REVENUES, A QUARTER OF IT IS PROPERTY TAXES, THE OTHER BIG CHUNK, WHICH IS 34%.
AND WHEN WE GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND, YOU SEE THAT THAT IS A MUCH GREATER PERCENTAGE OF OUR, OF OUR OPERATING FUND.
AND THIS IS A BREAKDOWN BY, UH, REVENUE, UH, CATEGORY OF WHAT WE EXPECT IN REVENUES ON A CONSOLIDATED BASIS.
OUR EXPENDITURE EXPENDITURES, 37% IS, UH, PERSONNEL BENEFITS.
AND THEN 30% IS OUR CAPITAL OUTLIER OR CIP PROGRAM.
HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF OUR EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR CATEGORY.
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AND I'LL GO OVER SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS.SO, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT GOING INTO FYI 21, UH, WE WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND, UH, GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO WHICH THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY IN ALMOST A CENTURY.
SO THERE WERE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE APPROACHED THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, VERY CONSERVATIVELY, UH, ADJUSTING DOWN, UH, REVENUE EXPECTATIONS.
UM, WE FROZE POSITIONS, WE CUT EMPLOYEE PROGRAMS, UH, CUTTING EMPLOYEE TRAVEL.
UM, WE TOOK OUT MERIT INCREASE FOR THIS PAST YEAR.
WHAT WAS UNEXPECTED WAS THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THIS YEAR, DESPITE THE CHALLENGES, UM, PARTICULARLY STARTED IN JULY, BUT PARTICULARLY BOOMED, UH, BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR IN JANUARY.
UM, WE THINK THAT AS INDIVIDUALS CAME OUT OF THEIR, UH, UH, QUARANTINES, UM, WE ARE SEEING SOME URBAN FLIGHT, UM, TO OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY AND PARTICULARLY THE LOW COUNTRY.
SO WE'RE SEEING STRONG GROWTH.
UM, THE PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE'S NO TAX INCREASE IN THIS BUDGET, UH, REMAINED AT 38.5 MILS.
UH, WE HAVE FOCUSED ON TOWN COUNCIL PRIORITY PROGRAMS, UH, CURRENT, UH, CONTINUES TO ENHANCE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS. AND I WOULD SEE THE STRONG INVESTMENT IN OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, IN OUR CIP, ALSO ON THIS BUDGET AS A REVISION TO OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY.
I, UH, DID A WORKSHOP WITH ALL OF YOU IN FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE, UH, TO REVIEW SOME OF OUR OPTIONS AND SOME DATA TO SUPPORT THE CHANGES IN THE FUND BALANCE POLICY.
UH, WE WERE PROPOSING TO MAKE THE EMERGENCY RESERVE FUND 15% OF ALL BUDGETED EXPENDITURES, RATHER THAN JUST GENERAL FUND, UH, TO ADJUST THE ON ASSIGN RESERVE TO 35% OF GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES RATHER THAN 25%.
AND THIS IS IN LINE WITH, UH, SOMEWHAT SOME OF WHAT THE RATING AGENCIES LOOK AT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT AAA RATED COMMUNITIES, UM, ALMOST ALWAYS, THEY HAVE AT LEAST A 35% ASSIGNED RESERVE, IF NOT SET AT YOUR PO POLICY.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE EQUIPMENT AND, UM, VEHICLE RESERVED FUND THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND, UH, AND ALSO I PRESENTED TO YOU KIND OF THE GROWTH IN OUR FIXED ASSETS, CAPITAL ASSETS OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS AND WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE GROWING AND MORE GROWING AND MORE SO AS WE CONTINUE OUR CIP PROGRAM.
AND ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS WE'RE SEEING LONG-TERM IS OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS AND TO RENEW THOSE ASSETS WHEN THEIR LIFE COMES UP.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO REVISE THAT FUND INTO A, UH, A CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE FUND AND THE, UH, DEPOSIT ANNUALLY, UH, 50% OF TOTAL ANNUAL DEPRECIATION EXPENSE AND TO LIFT THE CAP, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A MILLION DOLLARS AND SET THE CAP AT THE RECENT FIVE YEARS OF CAPRIS ALSO ON THE BUDGET IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR KEY STRATEGIC INTERAGENCY PART PARTNERSHIPS.
UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH, PALMETTO BREEZE, OUR SOLICITORS CONTRACT, OR PUBLIC DEFENDER, UH, TWO PROGRAMS WITH USC, THE WATER QUALITY LAB AND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, UH, BEF COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE AGREEMENT WITH CORNERSTONE CHURCH FOR PUBLIC PARKING.
AND OF COURSE OUR ACCOMMODATIONS TAX REQUESTS FROM HISTORIC BOSTON FOUNDATION AND OUR DMO, NO, I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER OUR GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS THE TALENT'S PRIMARY OPERATING FUND.
UM, SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ESTIMATED MILLAGE FOR FYI 22 IS AT 260,831, AND AGAIN, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY TAX INCREASE.
SO THE MILLAGE REMAINS AT 36.8 FOR GENERAL FUND, AND 1.7 FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION THAT SERVICE NETWORK, HERE'S THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.
A THIRD OF IT IS PROPERTY TAX.
AND HERE YOU SEE ALMOST A HALF OF IT IS IN LICENSED AND PERMISSIVE PERMITS.
THIS INCLUDES SOME OF OUR LARGER REVENUE SOURCES, SUCH AS A BUSINESS LICENSES, AS WELL AS THE BUILDING PERMITS AND SOME OF OUR GROSS REVENUE.
HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF BUDGET REVENUES.
UM, OUR PROPOSED GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS 22.4 MILLION.
THIS REFLECTS IN TOTAL, INCLUDING TRANSFERS AND OTHER FINANCING SOURCES, UH, AN INCREASE OF 15.1%.
BUT I WANT TO NOTE THAT HERE THAT GOING INTO
SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT WE ARE BUDGETING FOR NOT ONLY FACTORING IN THE GROWTH THAT WE EXPERIENCED, BUT ALSO THE CONTINUED GROWTH WE EXPECT INTO 22.
WE SHOULD HAVE OUR EXPENDITURES BY CATEGORY 63% OF SALARY AND BENEFITS, WHICH IS ON PAR WITH OUR PEERS AND OUR OPERATING COSTS OF 29% OF OUR EXPENDITURES.
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HERE.HERE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDED IN, IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
SO THIS INCLUDES A FIVE INCREASE FOR ALL TOWN EMPLOYEES.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, INCREASES THE, THE MERIT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THEIR FIVE 21 BUDGET.
UH, SO THIS INCREASE IS BUDGETED FOR, UH, JULY ONE EFFECTIVE DATE IF APPROVED.
IT ALSO IS, UH, INCLUDES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS, UH, INCREASED THE, UH, COUNCIL COMP COMPENSATION OF 16,500 FOR THE MAYOR AND 11,000 FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS ANNUALLY.
UM, IT RESTORES OUR, OUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING ALSO INCLUDES A PTO PAYOUT OPTION OF 25 HOURS FOR EMPLOYEES CARRYING A 40 HOUR BALANCE AND ALSO FACTORS IN A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFIT AUTHORITIES, A RELEASE OF THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION INCREASE, WHICH IS 1% FOR BOTH RETIREMENT HEALTH WITHIN HIS BUDGET.
THERE'S SOME, UH, NEW POSITIONS AND CHANGES TO POSITIONS FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT INCLUDES A FULL YEAR BUDGET FOR THE POSITIONS THAT WERE FROZEN.
AND
THIS INCLUDES TWO SWORN POLICE OFFICERS, AND IT SUPPORT COORDINATOR, A SENIOR FINANCIAL ANALYST, WHICH IS A ONE-YEAR IMPACT THAT FT, UH, INCREASE WILL BE ONLY FOR ONE YEAR.
WE WERE PLANNING FOR A POTENTIAL RETIREMENT AT THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR ALSO INCLUDES THE CIP ADMINISTRATOR, A STORMWATER PERMIT ADMINISTRATOR, AND A PUBLIC WORKS WORKER TO HELP MAINTAIN OUR GROWING PART FOOTPRINT.
IT ALSO PROPOSES TWO NEW PART-TIME POSITIONS, INCLUDING A SOCIAL WORKER FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AN ADMIN ASSISTANT FOR THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE.
AND THERE'S ALSO ONE PROMOTION, INCLUDING THE BUDGET OF A PUBLIC WORKS WORKER, TWO EIGHT 18 LITER.
SO AGAIN, IT RESTORES PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORTIVE STAFF CERTIFICATIONS SUPPORTS THE EMPLOYEE CLASS COMPENSATION STUDY, WHICH I DISCUSSED.
IT CONTINUES OUR CONTRACT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR GARBAGE SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS INCLUDES THE REFORESTATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS A MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE THIS CURRENT YEAR, UH, TO REPLANT TREES THAT WILL COME DOWN IN PLACES WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE, OR, OR ANOTHER AREAS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF THOSE TREES.
AND ALSO CONTINUES OUR SUPPORT FOR BEN RYAN CENTER AND THEIR INCUBATION EFFORTS, AS WELL AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.
ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS LISTED HERE ALSO INCLUDED IN IT, INCLUDING LET'S SEE, 43 AS WELL AS A CONTINUATION OF OUR BLUFFTON BIKE TAXI AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, ALSO INCLUDES THE COMPLETION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH HAS BEGUN IT, UH, ESTABLISHES A NEW VEHICLE LEASE PROGRAM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IN THIS FIRST YEAR, UH, COULD SUPPORT UP TO 16 NEW VEHICLES TO REPLACE OUR AGING, UH, POLICE FLEET.
AND AGAIN, I'LL TALK MORE IN SPECIFICS ABOUT THIS IN OUR WORKSHOPS.
UM, IT MAINTAINS OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES AND BUDGET.
UM, IT CONTINUES THE SUPPORT OF THE DANGEROUS TREE REMOVAL, UH, THAT WE ALSO PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR 21.
AND IT ALSO SUPPORTS THE REQUEST OF THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, I THINK ON THE STORMWATER FUND.
AND THIS FUND IS A TO IMPROVE AND SUSTAIN THE WATER QUALITY OF THE MAY RIVER AND SURROUNDING RIVER WATERSHEDS.
THIS FEE IS ASSESSED BY THE COUNTY AND WERE ADMITTED TO US.
UM, THE FEE FOR OUR SINGLE FAMILY UNIT IS $115 AND WE WERE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THAT, UH, FOR
AGAIN, MAJORITY OF THOSE REVENUES ARE THE FEE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE, THE S UH, UH, PLANNING AND PERMITTING FEE, WHICH IS UNDER LICENSE PREMISE THERE, UM, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 365,000.
AND, UH, THOSE DOLLARS SUPPORT THE PAYMENT OF DEBT SERVICE FOR THE GEO STORM WATER BONDS.
HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF OUR EXPENDITURES.
UH, SO WHEN I HERE THIS, UH, IN THE CAPITAL OUTLAY, THIS INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF A, AN AGED VEHICLE AND A STORMWATER.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE TRANSFER TO DEBT SERVICE FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE INTEREST IN BONDS AS I DISCUSSED.
UM, AND THE TRANSFER OUT TO CIP, YOU'LL SEE HERE D DECLINED SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THOSE, THOSE STORM WATER BONDS, UH, IN PLACE THAT ARE, UH, SUPPORTING, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PROJECTS.
SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, UH, SUPPORTED THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN AND THIS FOUR PROGRAM, UH, DRAINAGE AND DITCH MAINTENANCE, UH, SUPPORTIVE THE WATER QUALITY MONITORING SERVICES.
AND OF COURSE THE, THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, NO I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER OUR CIP PROGRAM.
CIP BUDGET IS A 11 POINT ALMOST $11.6 MILLION FOR FYI 22 PROPOSED.
THIS IS OVER, I BELIEVE 35 PROJECTS, THE BREAKDOWN
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OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES.UM, WE TRANSFER IN TIF REVENUE TO SUPPORT TO PROJECTS AS THE LARGEST SOURCE OF OUR REVENUES.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THESE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT SUPPORT DIFFERENT PROJECTS BASED ON THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT.
THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF OUR EXPENDITURES.
AGAIN, WE HAVE ISSUED A $5 MILLION BOND.
SO THE STORMWATER SEWER PROJECTS IS OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR CIP FOR 22, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS THE, UM, PHASE TWO AT BUCK WALTER TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR TOWN ON PAD SITES.
ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PARK PROJECTS PROPOSED.
UM, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF WHICH IS THE BEGINNING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT AT THE RIVERSIDE, UH, BARN PARK AND OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANT ROAD PROJECTS.
YOU CONTINUE OUR LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM, PORTABLE HOUSING IS ABOUT 900,000.
WE'VE INCLUDED OUR, UH, INFORMATION TO TAP TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS INTO THE CIP.
UM, WE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS OR A FEW PROJECTS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANT IN SCOPE, UM, AND IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN AND SOME MINOR FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES IS A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION, OR WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN 22.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE HERE FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
AND THEN THIS, ON THIS SLIDE, THIS REFLECTS THE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT WILL BE IN PRE-CONSTRUCTION OR IN PLANNING DESIGN FOR, FOR 22.
BUT THIS GRAPH REFLECTS THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN.
UM, THIS IS, I BELIEVE THIS IS ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE JUST INCLUDED HERE FOR, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION AND FINALLY OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND COUNTS FOR OUR PAYMENT OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON OUR, UH, GENERAL LONG-TERM DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
SO OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT IS $12.6 MILLION.
UM, THIS INCLUDES THE GEO BONDS FOR OUR STORMWATER CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE GEO BONDS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER THAT WE BUILT, AND THEN OUR OUTSTANDING TIF REVENUE BONDS HERE AGAIN, PROPERTY TAX IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF PAYING FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST AS WELL AS SOME TRANSFERS IN, FROM STORMWATER FOR THE GEO BOND FOR STORM WATER PROJECTS.
AND THE, UH, THE SMALL USE OF PRIMARY OR FUND BALANCE IS RELATED TO TRANSFER OUT TO CIP IS A BREAKDOWN OF EXPENDITURE THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS BY BOND PROGRAM FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
AND THERE, YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN THE TRANSFER AT THE CIP IS $2.2 MILLION ON THIS CHART.
THIS REFLECTS THE 20 ACTUAL A FUND BALANCE FOR A TOTAL FUND BALANCE FOR EACH OF THE FUNDS.
UM, THE ESTIMATE FOR 21, AND THEN WHAT THE PROJECTED IS FOR 22.
SO AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 22 IS PROJECTED TO HAVE A $30.1 MILLION IN TOTAL FUND BALANCE.
THAT INCLUDES OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, AS WELL AS OUR BUDGETED FUNDS HERE.
AGAIN, FOR YOUR REMINDER IS THE TOTAL CONSOLIDATED BUDGET OF $40.1 MILLION REMINDER ON MAY 18TH.
THE FIRST WORKSHOP WILL BE GENERAL FUND STORMWATER FUNDED AND DEBT SERVICE FUND AND WORKSHOP TWO ON MAY 25TH WILL BE THE, UH, CIP FUND DETAIL.
UM, SO AT THE WORKSHOPS, I'LL GO OVER A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THESE, UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO DIG DEEP INTO EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY, UM, AS WE ALWAYS DO, IT'S KIND OF A FIRST READING, BUT THEY WOULD SAY THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT HIM TO KIND OF BE READY TO ANSWER MAYBE AT A WORKSHOP THINKS ABOUT THAT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS MS. FRAZIER? NO, TOTALLY QUESTION.
UM, IN PARTICULAR, GOING BACK TO, UM, A PROPOSED PART-TIME IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET, UM, AS WE LOOK AT OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND IT TALKS ABOUT PROVIDING HIGHEST QUALITY OF SERVICE TO OUR OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY EMBRACED COMMUNITY POLICING, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DIG DEEPER AND HAVING, UM, WHAT THE FULL SALARY RANGE WOULD BE TO ADD A FULL-TIME SOCIAL WORKER AND BEHAVIOR MENTAL SPECIALIST TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FULL-TIME SOCIAL WORKER AND THE FULL-TIME MENTAL HEALTH.
SO WHAT A, WHAT A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WOULD COST FOR THE BUDGET.
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FRED ALSO INTERESTED IN BRIDGES THOUGH, IN OUR REVIEW, YOU MENTIONED TWO OFFICERS THAT WILL COME UNDER GRANT.IS THAT THE TWO OFFICERS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WASN'T HERE NOW THAT THERE WILL BE OFFICERS? NO, THESE ARE NOT THE GRANT POSITIONS OR THE RESOURCE OFFICERS.
SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS ORIGINALLY A PROPOSAL BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ADD A, A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, BUT THAT GOT PULLED AND THEY NOTIFIED US.
AND SO WE REMOVED IT FROM THEM OR BOTH.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, UH, REGULAR OFFICERS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET, BUT THE SROS ARE NO LONGER IN THERE.
ALSO AS YOU IN, IN, IN THAT THEY ARE FOR THE SCHOOL DISSIPATE IN THE COST FOR THE VEHICLES THAT WE USE FOR THOSE.
SO WE PUT THAT IN THE PROPOSED MOU TO THEM.
UM, WE WERE WAITING FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO US, BUT THAT WILL ACTUALLY, THAT AGREEMENT WILL BE ON THE NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA.
WHAT ABOUT HOUSING? UM, IT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING FOR US TO BUILD THIS CLIMATE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF LAMU AND HAVING MORE SENSITIVE TO PROPERTY, MORE OF CHECK TO THE DEVELOPER BY THAT KIND OF A FINANCIAL YEAH.
SO AS YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, COULD TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS.
UH, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST YEAR AND THE FIRST SEVERAL STEPS OF THAT PROJECT.
UH, WE ALSO ARE MONITORING WHERE WE THINK WE WILL END AT THE END OF YOUR, AS FAR AS FUND BALANCE, UH, WITHIN THE FUND BALANCE POLICY.
UM, WE TALK ABOUT THE, AT THE TIME MANAGERS, UM, RECOMMENDATION THAT HE CAN BRING TO THE COUNCIL, UH, USE OF ANY EXCESS FUNDS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND PUT IT FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LAND ACQUISITION, ANY OF THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE USES FOR THAT ASK QUESTION.
I KNOW I SAW IT IN THERE, UM, BUT YOU DID A GOOD JOB GOING FAST.
I LIKE THAT, BUT, BUT, UM, I SAW IT IN THERE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN ARTICULATE IT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO ME, BUCK ISLAND, DOROTHY BROUGHT IN SOME OF THE DRAINAGE AND DITCH MAINTENANCE INFORMATION ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK LIGHTING.
NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE.
UH, I'M NOT SURE OF THE DETAILS OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, AGAIN, WE WILL GO OVER EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY DURING THE WORKSHOP SECOND WORKSHOP.
UM, OR WE CAN, WE CAN CALL BRIAN BACK IF WE NEED TO WORKSHOP IS FINE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT SAYS BUCK ISLAND.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE IN CENTERVILLE INCLUDED AS WELL.
I'D PUT THAT NOTE FOR THE WORKSHOP AND THEN THE, UM, ANYTHING ELSE, ANYONE I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THE PART-TIME SOCIAL WORKER.
WILL SHE, HE OR SHE BE HERE, NEED THEM.
UM, I WOULD DID A BRIDGET ON THAT.
UM, CORNERSTONE CHURCH I HEAR IS UP FOR SALE.
IF THAT CAR DOES THAT CONTRACT GO WITH THE, JUST A QUESTION YOU CAN ANSWER, BUT JUST MAKE SURE THAT SALES ARE WE PAYING FOR SOMETHING WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE OR PERHAPS MAKE SURE THAT CHURCH KNOWS OUR CONTRACT GOES WITH THE CHURCH, BABY, UM, HOUSING TRUST, THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND.
SOMEONE CALLED ME TODAY FROM A NEWSPAPER AND ASKED IF WE SUPPORTED IT.
AND I SAID, WE TALK ABOUT IT AT SO LOCO AND I HAVEN'T HEARD COUNSEL SAID THEY DON'T SUPPORT IT.
UM, IF THAT COMES TO FRUITION THIS YEAR, I GUESS IT GOES ALONG WITH FRED AND WE PAY, WE CONTRIBUTE.
IS THERE A BUFFER IN THERE FOR THAT? AND I KNOW THAT'D BE A MID-YEAR.
I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT AT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND.
UM, AND THEN WHAT'S A J DANGEROUS TREE REMOVAL.
UM, THAT WAS, UH, IF, IF IN A, UH, FORDABLE HOUSING AREA, IF THERE IS A TREE THAT WAS THREATENING TO FALL AND, UH, RUIN SOMEONE'S ROOF OR FALLING DOWN A HOUSE AND PUT PEOPLE AT DANGER, UH, THEY CAN MAKE REQUEST, UH, TO HAVE THAT BITE.
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WAS WHAT I GOT IMPLEMENTED LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS STRUCTURED FOR THE HOME, WE COULD SEE A TREE THAT WAS GOING TO FALL ON THE HOUSE AND, AND FILL SOMEBODY OR TEAR UP THE ROOF.WE HAD THE MONEY ALLOCATED TO FIX THE ROOF, BUT WE COULDN'T TAKE THE TREE DOWN BEFORE.
IS THAT, I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
NEXT WAS, IS THAT A ROLLOVER OR WE JUST MAINTAIN THAT 10,000.
HOW DOES THAT? I DON'T THINK WE USED IT, BUT IT'S IN THERE AS, AT THE SAME AMOUNT AS IT WAS THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S NOT A ROLLOVER, BUT IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT.
WE DID USE SOME OVER THERE AND INCOME QUALIFIED.
UM, TERRY, YOU HAD A QUESTION A LONG TIME AGO.
I TOLD HIM THE, UM, WE GOT A LETTER TODAY, UM, FROM THE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE INDICATING THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE PROVIDING, UM, PROSECUTORS AT PRELIMINARY HEARINGS EXCEPT FOR CRIMINAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND SCOTT FORWARDED TO ME AND I TALKED TO OFFICER CHANDLER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
WE MIGHT WANT TO INVESTIGATE, UM, WHERE WE ARE IN THAT MOU WITH THE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE.
I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH THE CHIEF PREVIOUSLY ABOUT PERHAPS A PART-TIME PROSECUTOR, UM, MIGHT BE A BETTER, UM, A BETTER USE OF OUR MONEY.
SO, UM, UH, CHRIS, I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME CHANGE THERE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING RELATIVE TO PERHAPS A PART-TIME PROSECUTOR IN-HOUSE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I'LL HAVE SOME, I'LL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THIS WEEK WITH, UM, WITH THE SOLICITOR, UM, AND, UM, GOD AND CHRIS MO AND WITH THE CHIEF WHEN SHE GETS BACK AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE A LITTLE MASSAGE, UM, BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS, THAT WASN'T REALLY REQUEST THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE PAID IN HER INITIAL BUDGET REQUESTS WAS FOR A TOWN PROSECUTOR.
BUT GIVEN THAT WE ALREADY HAD THAT FUNCTION IN, OR WE THOUGHT SO AT THE TIME, RIGHT, WE DID NOT PUT THAT IN THE INITIAL BUDGET REQUEST.
SO WE MAY NEED TO REVISIT THAT ANYTHING ELSE, BEST BUDGET BOOK I'VE EVER BEEN GIVEN.
IT'S A STORY AND THEIR FACTS AND IT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE YOUR DEPARTMENT.
THE, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE RURAL HOUSING TRUST FUND.
WE'LL COME BACK TO SO LOCAL IN JUNE.
I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED WILL BE WHAT YOU JUST ASKED.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, AND, AND THESE DECISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE YET.
AND SO THE CONSULTANTS SHOULD HAVE STOPPING POINT, BUT HOW DO YOU FUND IT? THEY'LL NEED A FUNDING STREAM.
AND SO THAT, HOW THAT COINCIDES WITH OUR BUDGET AT THAT TIME.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S COMING, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE AT THAT MEETING, CHRIS.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION WE'LL BE DOING WORKSHOPS WE'RE DIGGING SUPER DEEP.
THIS JUST GETS THE BALL ROLLING.
UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FYI 2020 TO PROPOSE CONSOLIDATED BUDGET ON FIRST READING THEIR SECOND, SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF CONSENT AGENDA
[XI. Consent Agenda Items]
ITEMS. I PROMISE YOU, I NOTICED IT WAS LONG.WE HAD ACTUALLY PULLED A FEW THINGS OFF.
UM, IT JUST IS A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR ANYONE WOULD LIKE PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE, UH, FIND THEM 11, EIGHT ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY, FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ALL FOR DISCUSSION.
SO WITH ANYONE ELSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM EIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? WE'LL MOVE THERE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
IF HEATHER COULD COME IN AND DISCUSS
[XI.8. Consideration of an Intergovernmental Agreement between Beaufort County and the Town of Bluffton for the Purpose of Imposition and Collection, at the Time of Issuance of a Building Permit, of School Development Impact Fees on all New Residential Development within The Town - Heather Colin, Director of Growth Management]
THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN BUFORD COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPOSITION AND COLLECTION AT THE TIME OF ISSUANCE, A BUILDING PERMIT OF SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT FEES ON ALL NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWN, WE WILL DECIDE ON THIS ITEM HOLD.SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA IS JUST THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN BUFORD COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE COLLECTION.
SO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SCHOOL D SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT IMPACT
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FEES.SO, UM, AT THIS POINT BUFORD COUNTY, UM, THEY HAVE HAD FIRST READING OF THE ORDER OF THE SCHOOL IMPACT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
HOWEVER, WE'RE WAITING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SECOND AND THIRD AND FINAL READING UNTIL THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE.
SO THE BEST WAY I HAVE TO DESCRIBE IT AS KIND OF LIKE A CHICKEN OR THE EGG SITUATION, UM, THEY, BEFORE THEY CONTINUE TO PROCEED, WANT TO KNOW THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES SOUTH OF THE BROAD.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE, UM, TOWN OF BLUFFTON, AS WELL AS THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, PORTIONS OF THE CITY OF HARDY BELT THAT ARE INCLUDED IN BUFORD COUNTY.
NO ONE ELSE HAS PROCEEDED FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO, UM, WE ARE THE FIRST, UH, MUNICIPALITY MOVING FORWARD.
BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, BUFORD COUNTIES JUST KIND OF IN THAT WAITING GAME, SO TO SPEAK AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT TO COLLECT THOSE FEES AT THE TIME, BUILD A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED, UM, AND MOVE FORWARD.
THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT IS PROPOSED AS 1% OF WHAT IS COLLECTED.
I DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT AND, UM, GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST THAT INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS NEEDED IN, UM, SOUTHERN BUFORD COUNTY.
THOSE ARE ALL IN THAT TISCHLER BEAST, UH, BICE.
I MAY BE MISPRONOUNCING THAT STUDY THAT'S ATTACHED.
I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE IS OR WHAT THOSE PROPOSED DATES ARE.
ALL OF THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN BUFORD COUNTY'S ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, THIS WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL THAT DATE ROLLING THROUGH HERE.
THERE ARE SOME INFORMATION RIGHT NOW, THIS PROPOSED FEE IS AT $9,535 PER SINGLE FAMILY UNIT MULTIFAMILY IS AT A DIFFERENT RATE OF A LITTLE BIT OVER $4,500.
SO THAT IS NOT ON A SLIDING SCALE.
IF YOU RECALL, THE TRANSPORTATION FEE WAS PROPOSED AS TO BE DIFFERENT, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HOME.
SO A HOME THAT'S 500 SQUARE FEET OR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET VERSUS 10,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT SCALE, BUT THIS FEE IS CALCULATED TO BE, UM, JUST UNILATERAL THE SAME FEE FOR ALL NEW, EXCUSE ME, NEW SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
AGAIN, DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT EFFECTIVE DATE IS OR ANY MORE DETAILS ON THAT, OR SHOULD THAT BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE THE NEXT STEPS? UM, ONCE THE, ALL OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS FOR, LIKE I SAID, A TOWN OF BLUFFTON, AS WELL AS HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND, UM, THE PORTIONS OF THE CITY OF HARDY VILLAIN, UH, BUFORD COUNTY, THEN IT WOULD PROCEED TO SECOND RATING AT BUFORD COUNTY COUNCIL.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DO HAVE THE ATTACHMENTS OF THAT DRAFT INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT IN YOUR PACKET, AS WELL AS THE STUDY AND A PROPOSED MOTION QUESTIONS OF HEATHER.
I, UM, THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, UM, WITH IT, LET ME SAY BACKING UP REAL QUICK.
I KNOW THAT IT IS A CHICKEN AND THE EGG SYNDROME WITH THE COUNTY, AND I KNOW THAT THEY PASSED THIS SOME TIME AGO TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.
AND ALSO THEY HAD CONSULTANTS THAT DID A VERY IN DEPTH COMPLEX STUDY, BUT THAT BEING SAID, HEATHER, I WAS TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THIS ORIGINALLY WHEN THE CONSULTANTS CAME OUT WITH THEIR PROPOSAL, DID THEY NOT HAVE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAD A SCALE OF HOUSING BROKE DOWN.
THEY DID, BUT THAT WAS JUST FOR THE TRANSPORTATION.
CAUSE THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, UH, AND IT WAS ONE COMMENT MADE TONIGHT EARLIER, PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, THE FAIRNESS ISSUE JUST DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A, YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD YOUR FIRST HOME AND YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A THOUSAND OR 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOME, AND THEN, UH, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GO BUILD A HOME IN PALM, OUT OF BLUFF OR WHEREVER IN BLUFFTON, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO RUN A, A MILLION DOLLARS AND IT MIGHT BE 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR WHATEVER.
IT'S A FAIRNESS ISSUE, THE LITTLE GUYS COMING UP ON THE SHORT END OF THE STICK.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE PROBLEM I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PAYING THE 95 35.
UM, SO IT'S, TO ME IT'S A LARGE HOME VERSUS A SMALLER HOME ISSUE.
AND THEN YOU GET INTO THE CONSTRUCTION COST THAT WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER AND YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM THERE IS ALL OF THIS COMBINED AND WE STILL HAVEN'T EVEN HAD THE, UH, THE REVIEW OF THE OTHER THREE, UM, IMPACT FEES THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT FROM THE CONSULTANTS TO THE COUNTY.
IT BECOMES AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.
UH, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE EVERYDAY TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THESE FACTORS, DRIVING THIS TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME,
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THE IMPACT FEES, THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, IT'S GETTING HUGE.UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT, BUT IT'S A PROBLEM.
THE OTHER THING WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL IMPACT FEES MANUAL THAT THE COUNTY HAD DONE YEARS AGO, IT'S EXPIRED.
UM, THEY DID A FEE WAIVER IN THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE 60 TO 80% AMI.
UM, THEN THEY FOUND OUT THEY HAD TO FUND IT BY THE STATE AND THEY ONLY DID IT AT $150,000.
AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY THAT'S A PROBLEM, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, MAYOR EX MAYOR BENNETT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, HE DID A PROJECT IN PORT ROYAL AND I THINK HE TOOK UP MOST OF THAT FUNDING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, UM, AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS THE FEE WAIVER, UH, IMPACT FEE WAIVER PROCESS.
HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO ALL OF THIS? UM, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 1% PROCESSING FEE.
UM, I THINK THAT COUNCIL HAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
I REALIZE IT'S FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THEY HAVE NEEDS.
AND SO I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THEM, BUT WE HAVE NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROCESSING OF THESE FEES AS WELL.
SO I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE HAVE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND I WOULD BE VERY ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT OUR, UM, BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, MUNICIPALITIES, WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH IT AT THIS POINT.
MY QUESTION HEATHER IS, UM, WHAT WHAT'S, WHY IS THIS JUST SOUTH OF THE BROAD, UM, IN SARAH'S I WATCHED SOME OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT THIS GUY DID SOME MONTHS AGO, IT WAS VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN WAY OVER MY HEAD THERE FOR TRYING TO KEEP UP, BUT I'M THINK IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THAT THEY WERE THERE, THE PROPOSAL FOR SOLID WASTE, THE SCHOOLS, TRANSPORTATION, THERE WERE LIKE FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT IMPACT FEES THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO A VERY SCARY LOOKING NUMBER FOR MOST FOLKS.
SO, UM, WHAT, WHY IS THIS, HOW'S THE SEPARATION BETWEEN SOUTH OF THE BROAD AND NORTH ABROAD? I MEAN, IF IT'S INCLUDED IN THE STUDY, UM, WHAT THEY'VE DETERMINED WAS THAT THE NEED FOR SCHOOLS IS IN THE NECESSARY PROJECTS IS SOUTH OF THE BROAD, NOT NORTH OF THE BROAD, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE THE STUDY AREA OF SOUTH OF THE BROAD.
UM, LIKE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL AS FAR AS HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S, IT'S THE PRE THE PROPOSAL FROM TISCHLER BICE.
AND, UH, IN WHAT COUNTY, LIKE I SAID, IT, FIRST READING COUNTY COUNCIL ONLY APPROVED IT BY TITLE ONLY TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL DECISION ON THAT WILL BE OR THE INTERPRETATION, BUT ACCORDING TO THE STUDY, THEY DETERMINED THAT SOUTH OF THE BROAD WAS WHERE THAT NEED WAS IDENTIFIED.
I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE I'M NOT SOLD ON ALL THIS, EITHER AS THE IMPACT FOR NORTH AND ABROAD, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GROWING FASTER THAN THEM, THEY'RE STILL GROWING ALSO.
BUT HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IS THERE FOR SCHOOL IMPACT FEES SOUTH OF THE BROAD COMPARED TO NORTH AND ABROAD MY HOMEWORK, I GUESS, BUT IS IT OKAY TO TABLE THIS FOR A BIT WHEN IT WAS, I MEAN, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR ONLY NEIGHBOR SOUTH OF THE BROADEST HILTON HEAD.
SO IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF US, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY MAKE IT ANY WAY WE WANTED TO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH OTHER MEANS.
AND I DO HAVE, UM, ANOTHER MOTION, UH, AS I THOUGHT THROUGH THIS AS AN OPTION WITH, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD, OR IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, SOME THAT I COULD GO BACK AND GET, ESPECIALLY I KNOW ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHY NORTH, NORTH OF THE BROAD, NO SOUTH OF THE BROAD YES, BUT MORE CONCISE INFORMATION.
YOU CAN GET THAT FORWARD AS WELL AS WAIVERS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU IDENTIFIED AND YOU CERTAINLY CAN TABLE THAT ANOTHER QUESTION.
AND I KNOW WE NOTICED IT WITH OUR OTHER IMPACT FEE IS, DO WE REALLY HAVE THE TEETH IN THERE TO GET A TRUE ACCOUNTING OF COLLECTION AND WHERE IT GOES AND IT CAN'T GO TO PAY OFF ALL DEAD? I MEAN, IS IT REALLY GOING TO GO TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND POSSIBLY LET ADMINISTER, YOU KNOW, DR.
RODRIGUEZ AND HIS BOARD, BUT, UM, I'M OKAY WITH THE 1%, I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH SCHOOLS.
I THINK WE ARE THE GROWTH AREA.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S THAT MANY QUESTIONS JUST FROM, TO WHAT WAS YOUR OTHER EMOTION? WHAT WAS YOUR EVER IT WAS, AND ADAM, DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON, OR DID Y'ALL DID,
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UH, DAN AND LARRY, I GO TO BOTH IN MY, I WOULD SAY THOUGH WITH THE, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT WE'D BE PUNISHING THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS WHEN GOING TO IT, SOMETHING DAN SAID EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT, THAT NUMBER FAIR.AND KNOWING THAT WE ARE THE AREA WHERE WE'RE SEEING THIS, UH, THE, THE INCREASE IN THE NEED FOR SCHOOLS, UM, IN LOOKING AT THEIR ASSESSMENT OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF SCHOOLS IS IN OUR AREA.
UM, AND WHO'S CURRENTLY GOING TO BE SEEING THE BRUNT OF THAT A 1% FEE.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, IT'S FAIR IN TERMS OF WHAT OTHER ENTITIES CAN WE LOOK AT TO MAKE IT AN APPROACH WHERE WE'RE NOT JUST ALWAYS SPINNING OUR WHEELS AND DOING IT WITH THE, UM, THE, WITH THE SINGLE HOMES, REGARDLESS OF SIZE, WHERE CAN WE BRING IN COMMERCIAL ENTITIES IF NEEDED TO WHERE WE'RE SOLVED, TRYING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
AND LOOKING AHEAD, BECAUSE THIS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, LOOK SEEING THAT WHERE THE, WE HAVE THE, THE HIGHER POPULATIONS THERE, PROMOTION YOUR FAULTS ARE TO LET OUR ATTORNEY NEGOTIATE, COME BACK TO US AND LET HIM BE OUR LIAISON BETWEEN US AND BUFORD COUNTY.
THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH BUFORD COUNTY AND ERIC GREENWAY, AND ALSO, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AT THIS POINT BEFORE THEY CONTINUE TO SECOND READING, WANT SOME SORT OF, UM, OR ARE REQUESTING SOME SORT OF ASSURANCE AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD.
SO, UM, THIS, THIS MAY GET US CLOSER TO INSERTING EMOTION AND THE NEXT ACTIONS AND THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE ANSWERED.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW A LOT OF THAT IS IN HERE DEEP WITH LOTS OF WORDS AND LOTS OF INFORMATION, BUT JUST TO CONCISE, LIKE I SAID FROM, AND I CAN RECAP THE QUESTIONS I'M HEARING, OR IF YOU HAVE MORE SALT ON WITH BOOKER T AND DAN SAID, DON'T, WE DO A CERTAIN CALCULATION ON OUR STORMWATER FEES BASED ON SIZE OF HOUSE.
DON'T WE DO SOMETHING THAT CAN'T, WE TRY TO UTILIZE IT.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, PROBABLY YOU DON'T HAVE THREE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, IF MAYBE THAT'S SOME EQUITABLE WAY TO WIT, AND IF WE'RE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE COLLECTING IT, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING IT.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PAYING US TO ADMIN FEE CAN'T WE MAKE IT, BUT WE THINK IT'S FAIR.
SHE S SHE MENTIONED THAT THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE DID THAT.
I REMEMBERED SEEING SOMETHING, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO IT'S SO LONG AGO, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN BY HOUSE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO YOU CAN USE THAT MODEL PROBABLY SOME DEGREE NOW.
I MEAN, YOU'D HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY TO SEE IF IT MADE FINANCIAL SENSE, BUT IT'S A, THAT WE COULD WORK WITH.
UM, SO IS THIS IDEA OF YOURS ON THIS OTHER EMOTION STILL FIT IN WITH ALL YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT? UM, I BELIEVE IT, I BELIEVE IT DOES.
UM, YOU COULD ADD WORDS OF THEIR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS, BUT I THINK I KNOW THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S HERE, I'M HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, ARE YOU SO MANY OF US SHUT DOWN? WE HAVE SERIOUS QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO TABLE IT.
WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT STEP FORWARD TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I BELIEVE THAT AS AN OPTION OR, UM, OR TABLING IT WITH COMING BACK WITH ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, IT'S ASKING A QUESTION.
MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT AUNT DAN, AS I'VE ALREADY ASKED, AND YOU HAVE ALREADY ASKED COUNTY KEEP PUSHING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT.
THE ANSWERS ARE COMPLICATED AND VERY DEEP IN HERE.
SO JUST THAT GIVE, PUT OUR ATTORNEY KIND OF IN THAT ROLE OF BEING ABLE TO, I BELIEVE SO.
IT'S THE BONE AND HOLD ON TO IT.
AND I AM LOOKING AT TERRY FOR CONFIRMATION, MR. FINGERS.
AND I THINK MAYOR, THAT'S THE BEST THING, BECAUSE IF YOU READ THAT THEIR LITERATURE, THEY, ONCE WE MAKE OUR MOVE WITH A, YOU KNOW, A RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER IT WOULD BE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT IN THEIR BYLAW TO CHANGE IT.
HOWEVER, THEY KIND OF SEE FIT.
SO THEY NEED TO TRULY UNDERSTAND ARE OUR CONCERNS GOING IN TO, THROUGH OUR LEGAL PROCESS.
AND NO INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WILL BE DONE UNTIL YOU ALL APPROVE IT AND IT BECOMES FINALIZED.
BUT THE DRAFTS THAT THEY'VE HAD IN EXISTENCE SINCE OCTOBER HAS LOTS OF HOLES IN IT THAT NEEDED TO BE FILLED IN, AND I'M TAKING NOTES ON WHAT YOU'RE THINKING WE NEED TO BE DOING FROM OUR SIDE.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS PROPOSED MOTION ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, I WENT THROUGH THAT MOTION WITH THE COUNTY, UM, THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY THIS AFTERNOON, AND HE FELT THAT IT WAS A VERY APPROPRIATE,
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UM, STEP FOR THE TOWN TO TAKE.I SAID, UH, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT NEED TO GET NEGOTIATED FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
AND ALL THIS MEANS IS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO START START SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS IS WHAT IT REALLY MEANS.
WELL, IT HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE ANY NEW GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED.
WOULD THERE BE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NEGOTIATING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH BUFORD COUNTY CONCERNING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROCEDURE OR COLLECTION AND DISTRIBUTION OF SCHOOL OLYMPIC DAYS, THE FINALIZATION OF THIS IGA WOULD ONLY BE EFFECTIVE UPON FINAL READING OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE AND THE APPROVAL OF THE IGA BY THE BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL AND BUFORD TOWN COUNCIL COUNTY COUNCIL, SORRY, THEIR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? UM, IS IT APPROPRIATE IT JUST MAYBE TO HAVE ONE OF US AS YOUR LIAISON, ALONG WITH HEATHER? I MEAN, OKAY.
SO IF ANYONE HAS READ THAT CAREFULLY AND I'D AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE SAID, SO I DON'T THINK ANYONE SPRAYING WE'LL GET DAN AND TERRY.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED HEATHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[XII. Executive Session]
INTO OUR FINAL MOTION, WHICH IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS? THAT'S FOR YOU AT 34 78, ONE SECOND.
I GUESS SOMEBODY SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY BY SAYING, AYE.
UM, WE WILL GO OUT AND WE'LL COME BACK ON.
SCOTT IS GOING TO BE WITH STEVE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND
[XIII. Action from Executive Session]
ZERO SECOND CIRCUIT.UM, THERE WAS NO ACTION OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO VOTES TAKEN.
UM, WE DID, UM, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE ACTION OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE IT WAS REGARDING A RESIGNATION LETTER FROM OUR INTERIM.
UM, SO WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION, UM, OF OUR INTERIM TOWN MANAGER WHOSE LAST DAY IS JUNE 4TH OR SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
AND I KNOW YOU'LL DO VERY WELL UNTIL THAT DATE AND YOU'VE REALLY KEPT OUR SHIP GOING.
UM, IS THERE AN, A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MOVE THERE? DID WE GET BACK ON LOVE? OKAY.