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[Call to Order]
OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO ORDER TRYING TO GET BOARD DECK THAT ROBIN, DO YOU HAVE IT? THERE YOU GO.UM, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OR ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[Approval of Agenda]
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I MOVE.ANY COMMENTS ON THAT CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA SAYING AYE.
THAT WAS, UM, FRANK AND SO I MET THE APPROVAL OF THE, IS HE COMING TO THE MEETING? NO, HE WAS TRYING TO GET ANOTHER MEETING.
[Public Comments]
I'M GOING TO CALL MR. DAVID COOK.UH, YOU'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, WE HAVE DAVID STRIVEN JUROR, RACHEL LINSKY, CATHY ROBOT, EARL CAMPBELL, AND MS. INGRID BOAT.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING HIM, ROBIN.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER AND LET ME SEE, TRY AGAIN.
CAN YOU HEAR HIM? I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY.
UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN, AS YOU ALL KNOW ALREADY IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS HEADING WITH.
UH, CHILDREN BEING FORCED TO WEAR FACE CALORIES IN SCHOOL AND PARENTS ARE NOT BEING GIVEN AN OPTION WITH THAT.
IN MIND, I DIRECT YOU ALL TO TURN TO SOUTH CAROLINA, SECTION 63 DASH FIVE DASH THREE 50 HEALTH SERVICES TO MINORS WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT.
SO THIS STIPULATES HEALTH SERVICES OF ANY KIND THAT MAY BE RENDERED TO MINORS OF ANY AGE WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN.
WHEN IN THE JUDGMENT OF A PERSON AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO RENDER A PARTICULAR HEALTH SERVICE STATUS SERVICES ARE DEEMED NECESSARY UNLESS SUCH INVOLVES AN OPERATION, WHICH SHALL BE PERFORMED ONLY AS SUCH AS ESSENTIAL TO THE HEALTH OR LIFE OF SUCH CHILD.
IN THE OPINION OF THE PERFORMING PHYSICIAN AND A CONSULTANT PHYSICIAN.
IF ONE IS AVAILABLE WITH THIS IN MIND, WE, AS PARENTS DOES NOT WAIVE OUR RIGHT TO CONSENT IN HAVING CHILDREN WEAR A FACE COVERING DURING THIS PANDEMIC AS SUCH WHERE YOU NEED TO BE GIVEN THE OPTION AND PARENTS NEED TO OPT IN FOR THIS STIPULATING THAT THEIR CHILDREN SHOULD BE WEARING A MASK IN SCHOOL.
OTHERWISE IT IS ASSUMED THAT THE CHILDREN DO NOT NEED ONE, AND THIS SHOULD BE AN OPTION OF PARENTS.
AND I'D LIKE YOU TO PUT THAT IN FRONT OF A BOARD FOR DISCUSSION TOMORROW.
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IN FOR COMMENTS TOMORROW NIGHT REGARDING THIS MATTER AS WELL.I SAW ON THE CALENDAR, THERE WAS A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING.
IT'S A SPECIAL CALL, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH PUBLIC COMMENTS, SPECIAL CALL ME.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT TO THEM.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY AGENDA FOR IT.
I WASN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS REGARDING.
DOES ANYONE IN THIS MEETING HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH ME? I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEIR CALL AT ANY TIME.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (843) 298-3412.
WAS THAT THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM.
[Approval of the March 9, 2021 Committee Meeting Minutes]
IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 9TH COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE APPROVE THE MARCH 9TH, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
I SECOND, I ONLY SAW ONE SMALL TYPO ROBIN.
IT WAS UP ON THE TOP, UM, OF THAT.
LET ME SEE, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP.
MY APOLOGIES, WHERE IT SAYS VIRTUAL VIRTUAL MEETING.
IT ADDS AN EXTRA E AT THE END THERE.
SO WITH THAT CHANGE, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[Discussion of Requested Policies]
DISCUSSION OF REQUESTED POLICIES.AND THEN I BELIEVE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS F AND G ARE THE PARTS CORRECT? CORRECT POLICIES THAT WERE REQUESTED.
SO, UM, ROBIN, IF YOU CAN BRING UP, THIS IS FROM RECOMMENDATION OF THE FULL BOARD AT OUR MARCH 16TH BOARD MEETING.
UM, THERE WAS A MODEL POLICY THAT WAS FLOATED FROM, I BELIEVE IT WAS S CSBA, CORRECT.
UM, REGARDING ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS, UM, AND BOARD MEMBERS, UH, USAGE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES DURING BOARD MEETINGS.
SO, UM, THIS IS BEEN BROUGHT TO US NOW FOR OUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR, I SEE INGRID'S HAND UP.
I WANTED TO WAIT FOR THE COMMITTEE.
SO I'M WILLING TO DEFER TO HIM ON THIS ONE AND I'LL, I'LL GO NEXT.
IS YOUR SHIPPING ADDRESS, COURTESY STANDOFF? UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FINE, A FINE POLICY AND I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT AND THE PARTIALITY.
I STILL BELIEVE IT'S UNENFORCEABLE AND, AND REALLY UNNECESSARY.
UM, WE ALL KNOW WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS, UM, BUT THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT.
IF WE SEE A BOARD MEMBER, WHAT CHALLENGED THEM AND SAY, WE NEED TO SEE YOURSELF PHONE TO SEE IF YOU WERE GETTING TEXT MESSAGES THERE.
UM, I JUST CAN'T SEE US ENFORCING IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMAGE THAT IT GIVES, I THINK WE HAVE A FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE IMAGE, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY THAT TO ME, I THINK THIS IS A COMMON SENSE APPROACH AND THE CRUX IS DO WE MAKE IT OFFICIAL POLICY? WHAT I, WHEN I, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP, WHAT I DID IS I LOOKED, UM, AT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON ONE CONCERN IS, IS THAT UNDER THE OPEN MEETING ACT, THERE ARE MORE AND MORE COMMON LAW TYPE LAWSUITS COMING AGAINST SCHOOL BOARDS FOR CONDUCTING SCHOOL BUSINESS OUT OF, UM, THE, IN, DURING PUBLIC MEETINGS, TRADITIONALLY THAT HAS BEEN HELD TO IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM, RIGHT? LIKE WE ALL KNOW THAT IF, UH, IT'S FIVE OR SIX OF US, WE'RE ALL TEXTING DURING A MEETING THAT THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL UNDER FOYA.
THERE IS SOME ACTIONS BEING BROUGHT NOW THAT, UM, THERE WAS
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ONE IN SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH, UH, ONE IN CINCINNATI WHERE CITIZENS ARE SUING THE SCHOOL BOARD.SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT HELPS US TO HAVE A POLICY AND SAY WE'RE AGAINST THIS.
UM, NOT BECAUSE IT'S ENFORCEABLE, BUT JUST TO SAY, THIS IS OUR POLICIES THAT IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT CAN ADDRESS IT.
UM, OR IF A, UH, ANOTHER CITIZEN BRINGS AN ISSUE, SAY, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PUBLIC CITIZEN HAS BEEN CONTACTING A BOARD MEMBER, UH, INAPPROPRIATELY DURING A MEETING WITHOUT ANY KIND OF POLICY.
IT JUST BOILS DOWN INTO A BUNCH OF ARGUING BETWEEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
BUT I THINK IF YOU HAVE A CALL IS, SO YOU SAY, OKAY, THAT, THAT GOES AGAINST OUR POLICY.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE.
ALTHOUGH I THINK THERE IS THE POTENTIAL, UM, THE WAY THINGS SEEM TO BE MOVING, TO HAVE MORE ELECTRONIC MEETINGS AND THAT THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, IS BRINGING SOME LAWSUITS, IF THEY FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE.
SO I THINK IT'S WORTH AT LEAST DISCUSSING HAVING THAT POLICY ON THE BOOKS.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT, MR. DEVINE, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY THAT I TEND TO AGREE WITH MS. BOAT, RIGHT? UM, I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE OTHER POLICIES THAT AREN'T REALLY ENFORCEABLE, BUT, UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO ME, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, UM, THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SOME TYPE OF REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, UM, MAKING AN ANALOGY, I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF AN ANALOGY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPEEDING LAWS, UM, AND THEY'RE ONLY ENFORCED THEY'RE ENFORCEABLE, BUT VERY, VERY RARELY DID THEY GET ENFORCED.
UM, BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE THERE.
SO WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S THE EXPECTATION AND IT'S THERE FOR SAFETY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD ANALOGY OR NOT, BUT I DO, UM, FEEL, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN, UM, COMPLAINTS FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY FEEL THAT, UM, PEOPLE ARE, SOME, SOME PEOPLE ARE TAKING REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC DURING BOARD MEETINGS AND THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT FAIR.
YOU KNOW, THEY SOME HAVE ASKED ME TO DO THAT AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T TAKE MY PHONE TO, DURING A BOARD MEETING.
SO, SO I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
BUT SO TO ME, I, MY FEELING IS I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE ON THE BOOKS, BUT I UNDERSTAND DAVID'S POINT.
UM, SO, UM, WILLIAM'S HANDS UP, RACHEL.
WELL, MR. SMITH, I WOULD INTEND TO DO, UH, TO AGREE WITH MR. OR MR.
UM, IT, IT NOW IS NOT ENFORCEABLE, BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT, THAT WE WILL BE EMBARKING ON AND POSSIBLY EVEN IN VIOLATION OF PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT ARE LESS, UM, HOW DO I PUT THIS, THAT THERE ARE LESS, UM, THAT THERE ARE LESS TROUBLESOME TO THE BOARD AND MORE IN SCOPE AND MORE WITHIN OUR SCOPE OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS BOARD MEMBERS AND NOT POLICING EACH OTHERS, BECAUSE WE ARE ALL FIRST AND WE ARE ALL GROWN ADULTS ON THIS BOARD.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE SOMETHING LIKE SOME LAWS, YOU KNOW, OF LIKE IN CERTAIN STATES THEY HAVE LAWS OF SAGGING, YOU KNOW, AND SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU START GOING TO PEOPLE AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT SAGGING OR, UH, SOME OF IT COULD BE ARRESTED DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU MAY SEE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SAY, UH, IT'S A LOT THAT GO INTO, AND I THINK IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO, DOWN TO THAT WE SHOULD GO DOWN.
I THINK THAT, THAT WE'VE DONE ENOUGH ON THAT.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, IT WAS IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED AND WE SHOULDN'T POSSIBLY LEAVE IT ALONE.
THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.
UM, SO IN RESPONSE, I THINK, WELL, WILLIAM MAKES A GOOD POINT, EXCEPT THAT I WOULD ARGUE THE OTHER END OF IT.
UM, I THINK ONE, THIS IS THE POINT OF HAVING POLICIES IS SO WE DON'T HAVE ARGUMENTS AND POLICING BETWEEN BOARD MEMBERS.
I WANT A GENERAL POLICY AND WE'RE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE'RE ALL ADULTS.
ONCE WE ALL KNOW THE POLICY, WE SHOULD ADHERE TO IT.
I DON'T WANT TO POLICE, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THE POLICY MAKES IT NEUTRAL AND MAKES IT THE WILL OF THE BOARD.
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ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A POLICY IS A REDUCTION IN SORT OF THE POLICING AND IN SORT OF THE DISAGREE, THE SECOND POINT HE MADE ABOUT THE SLIPPERY SLOPE.I THINK THERE IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE HERE, AND I THINK IT WARRANTS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION.
MY THING THOUGH, IS I ALMOST FEEL LIKE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE, NOT TO HAVE A POLICY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE DIGITAL AND MORE AND MORE REMOTE.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE WORLD IS HEADING.
THERE'S JUST NO FIGHTING THAT.
SO TO NOT SORT OF LOOK AT HOW WE WANT TO EVOLVE WITH THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
I KIND OF THINK THAT'S ALMOST MORE OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
WE JUST KINDA NEED GUIDEPOSTS FROM THE WILL, THE BOARD THAT THIS IS HOW WE EXPECT FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD, NOT BEHAVE THEMSELVES.
UM, PURPORT THEMSELVES DURING A BOARD MEETING.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT, MR. SMITH, WHERE YOU FINISHED.
I SEE YOUR HAND STILL RAISED MR. CAMPBELL.
OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY FOR ONCE AGAIN, UH, HOW I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HOW DO YOU TELL ON POLICING BECAUSE POLICING IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED TO DO AND HOW, HOW WILL YOU, HOW WILL YOU REGULATED THOSE? THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ASKED AS WELL.
I MEAN, BECAUSE AS IN THE DAY IT IS, BUT IT'S POLICING IT AND IT IS REGULATING IT.
UM, I THINK WE KNOW WHAT THE POLICY SAYS AND WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT, HOW WE SHOULD BEHAVE AT A BOARD MEETING.
AND, UM, AND IF WE DON'T THEN YOU KNOW THAT SEAN BOARDMAN SHIP, AND NOBODY MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING WRONG, AND IF IT'S WRONG, I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW? SO MY QUESTION IS, HAS THE, DOES THE COMMITTEE FEEL ABOUT IT? YEAH, TOTALLY.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN'T POLICE, IT SHOULD PREVENT US FROM, UH, GREEN AS A BOARD THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE, UH, BOARD BEHAVIOR.
UM, I THINK THAT IT'S A STANDARD AND WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR, UH, OURSELVES AND, AND, UM, THAT, THAT WE SHOULD STATE THE STANDARD.
AND TO INGRID'S POINT, WE ARE GETTING MORE DIGITAL AND MORE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T PUT ANY STANDARDS IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH, WITH THE DIGITAL WORLD, THEN WE COULD BE OPENING PANDORA'S BOX IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING GOES AND WHAT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY, MY VIEWPOINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO OPPOSE THIS.
IF WE WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BOOKS, WE PUT HER ON THE BOOKS, I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT IT'S KIND OF A HOLLOW GESTURE, BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO OPPOSE IT.
WE CAN PUT THIS IN THE POLICIES.
UM, WELL, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE MY 2 CENTS FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
UM, I TEND TO AGREE WITH MR.
AND FROM AN ENFORCEABILITY STANDPOINT, UM, THE PUBLIC IS WHO ELECTED US AND THEY ARE WHO ESSENTIALLY POLICE US.
AND A LOT OF INSTANCES, WE HAVE A GOOD CODE OF CONDUCT THAT WE DID DRAFT AND PUT INTO POLICY.
UM, THAT IS BASICALLY, UH, WE CUT OUT A LOT OF THAT.
THERE WAS SOME THINGS THAT WERE IN THE DRAFT THAT WE TOOK OUT THAT WE THOUGHT WERE UNENFORCEABLE AND TOO SUBJECTIVE.
UM, AND WE TOOK THEM OUT BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO I HAVE A BIT OF A DIFFICULTY IN SUPPORTING, PUTTING SOMETHING IN THAT CAN BE SO SUBJECTIVE AND WOULD REPORT, CHECK EACH OTHER.
UM, I THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN A CONDENSED VERSION, VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE COULD POTENTIALLY BE HOUSED IN THE HANDBOOK.
UM, BECAUSE IN THE HANDBOOK WE PRESENTLY DO HAVE INFORMATION ON FOYA, UM, AND EXPECTATIONS AND HOW BOARD MEETINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT IT BELONGS MORE SO IN A HANDBOOK THAN IN POLICY.
UM, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS ON IT.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS FEEL ON IT, BUT AS IT'S WRITTEN, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT.I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TAKE US A STAB AT CONDENSING IT AND MAKING IT MUCH MORE SUCCINCT.
UM, SO ANY COMMENTS FROM FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THAT? I AGREE WITH THAT, I THINK, UM, REALLY I THINK, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE STATED AND YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE CONCISE STATEMENT IS BOARD MEMBERS, UH, SHOULD REFRAIN FROM COMMUNICATING WITH, UH, EACH OTHER OR CONSTITUENTS DURING A BOARD MEETING.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, AGAIN, IT'S A STANDARD OF BEHAVIOR AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN INTO THE POLICE AND, YOU KNOW, MONITOR EACH OTHER ON IT, BUT THE PUBLIC THEN KNOWS THAT WE EXPECT OURSELVES TO FOLLOW THIS.
THAT IS AN EXPECTATION THAT WE'VE WE'VE SET FORWARD.
AND, AND BACK TO THAT SUBJECTIVE VIEWPOINT OF IT, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT TO INGRID'S POINT WHAT THAT TECHNOLOGY IS ONLY GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE IN PLAY.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN MOMENTS WHERE SOMEONE'S BEEN TRYING TO GET INTO A BOARD MEETING AND THEY COULDN'T.
SO THEY WERE TEXTING SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU SEND ME THE LINK OR BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THE OTHER PERSON MIGHT'VE BEEN IN THE ACTUAL MEETING AND RESPONDING, AND IT'S JUST, THERE'S TOO MANY, IN MY OPINION, HYPOTHETICAL'S WHERE SOMETHING COULD, UM, THAT WAS TOTALLY MUNDANE COULD BE MISINTERPRETED.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A STAB AT SOMETHING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, OR IF WE WANT TO PERHAPS REVISIT THIS AGAIN WITH A SAMPLE OF SOMETHING, OR IF YOU WANT TO GO AT IT RIGHT NOW, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU GUYS.
AND THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S HOUSED IN THE HANDBOOK.
WELL, I'VE JUST GRABBED THE HANDBOOK RIGHT NOW, MR.
WE HAVE BEEN, WE AT LEAST I HAVE IT SOMEWHERE AND IT'S SEMI-OFFICIAL AND I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH JUST INCORPORATING THE SECTION THAT SAYS ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS DURING BOARD MEETINGS.
SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OBJECTIONABLE ABOUT IT.
UM, AND I THINK IT HITS THE BIGGEST BOX OR SO I THINK WE COULD JUST INCORPORATE THAT.
WE TAKE IT FROM HERE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
JUST THIS SECTION HERE, ELECTRONIC AND EVERYTHING DOWN HERE.
I THINK THAT COVERS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROBABLY NOT AS SUCCINCT AS, AS IT COULD BE, BUT, OR WE CAN BLOVIATE A LITTLE BIT HERE.
WILL YOU ROBIN, JUST TO GET US STARTED, WILL YOU COPY AND PASTE THAT INTO A WORD DOCUMENT AND WE CAN MASSAGE IT AS NECESSARY? WELL, CONSIDERING THIS AS A PDF, I CAN'T COPY IT.
OH, IT WON'T LET YOU COPY AND PASTE.
CAUSE IT'S A PDF TO GO INTO AND IT'S IMPORTANT DOTS.
I THINK THAT USING, CAUSE IN THAT I JUST WENT AWAY, BUT THE ELECTRONIC THAT, UH, MR. STRINGER SAID, WE COULD JUST USE, IT SAYS VERY SPECIFICALLY, LIKE TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HYPOTHETICAL'S BUSINESS, THAT SHOULD BE PUBLICLY DISCUSSED.
UM, AND I, I CAN'T READ THE EXACT RIGHT, BUT IT HAD A VERY SPECIFIC THING, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN'T EVER COMMUNICATE DURING A MEETING, BUT THAT YOU DON'T DISCUSS BUSINESS.
THAT SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC REALM.
SO THAT, I THINK IT HANDLES THAT HYPOTHETICAL.
THE SECOND THING IS, I THINK WE'RE NOT CUTTING.
WE'RE NOT BREAKING NEW GROUND BY PUTTING THIS IN.
AND THIS IS THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MODEL BECAUSE OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS ARE PUTTING THIS IN.
SO WE'RE NOT LIKE GETTING OUT AHEAD OF SOME BIG PROBLEM.
I THINK THIS IS BECOMING A STANDARD THAT, THAT MOST BOARD MEMBERS.
SO IT SAYS, UM, LIKE BACK, UM, RIGHT THERE PROPERLY DISCUSSED PUBLICLY DURING BOARD MEETINGS.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART.
NOT THAT WE WANT TO CUT DOWN ALL ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS AND I HAVE MY CELL PHONE AT MY THING BECAUSE I HAVE KIDS AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I WOULD, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM I NEED TO
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BE NOTIFIED OF.BUT IT'S JUST SAYING THAT, LOOK, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC FOYA, DISCUSSED IT OPENLY, DON'T DO IT BY ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A BAD POLICY TO HAVE, UM, YOU MAKE THE FONT A LITTLE BIGGER ON THE WORD DOCUMENT ROBIN, HOLD ON.
CAN I ALSO SAY THAT RACHEL, YOU ARE AN EXCELLENT PROOFREADER.
YOU'RE LIKE, LET'S TAKE ALL THIS.
LET'S MAKE A SUCCINCT, LET'S PUT IN A WORD DOC.
THAT, THAT CAN'T SEE ANY OF THAT ZIP.
YOU WANT IT BIGGER, BETTER? I THINK, AT LEAST FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE.
WELL, I'M THE OLDEST PERSON AND I CAN SEE IT FINE ON MY OTHER COMPUTER SO I CAN SEE IT.
SO I THINK, UM, WHAT SENTENCES IT, WHERE IT SAYS BOARD MEMBERS WILL REFRAIN FROM ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION DURING BOARD MEETINGS ON PERSONAL OR DISTRICT OWNED DEVICES.
I HAVE A BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE SAYING IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE TOO BLANKET FOR ME.
I WOULD SAY BOARD MEMBERS, UM, SHOULD GENERALLY REFRAIN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S MAKING IT SEEM LIKE YOU CAN'T USE YOUR PHONE AT ALL.
IN MY OPINION, PARDON OR A MEMBER SHOULD REFRAIN.
HOW ABOUT LIMIT BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD LIMIT USE OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS? THAT'S YEAH.
SHOULD BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD LIMIT, LIMIT, LIMIT ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION.
SO GET RID OF THE ED TO ELECTRONIC, SO SHOULD LIMIT.
AND THEN JUST GET RID OF REFRAIN FROM, YEAH, I THINK THE NEXT SENTENCE IS THE, THE ADJUSTED, THE FOYA THOUGH THAT BOARD MEMBERS WILL NOT COMMUNICATE ELECTRONICALLY DURING MEETINGS WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS OR DISTRICT STAFF REGARDING OFFICIAL BOARD BUSINESS.
ISN'T THAT WHAT I THINK THAT'S I AGREE, KATHY.
I THINK THAT IS THE CRUX OF THAT.
THE ONLY THING I THINK IS PROBLEMATIC IS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAS TECHNICALLY, MY HUSBAND WOULD BE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND HE MIGHT SEND ME A MESSAGE, YOU KNOW? AND WOULDN'T IT BE REGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BOARD MEETING AND THAT'S SOMETHING PERSONALLY.
PUBLICLY, BECAUSE THIS IS TALKING ABOUT OFFICIAL BOARD BUSINESS, EXACTLY.
THE ITEMS THEN COULDN'T NOT JUST BE ALL OF IT.
THAT SENTENCE, THAT ONE SENTENCE, IF IT'S, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE, THE FIRST SENTENCE IS TECHNICALLY ABOUT OUR, UM, ELECTRONICALLY ISSUED DEVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WE ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY HAVE A POLICY ON THAT ESSENTIALLY.
AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT, RACHEL, I'M SORRY, YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE ME, BUT JUST, UM, UH, IT GETS A LITTLE JUDGY OR LIKE IT'S A LITTLE MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC AND, YOU KNOW, APPEARANCE A PARTIALITY.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
THAT ONE SENTENCE COULD BE IT.
I THINK THAT THIRD PARAGRAPH IS REALLY JUST THE EXPLANATION.
IT'S THE WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT, BUT WE DON'T NEED A HANDBOOK OR ANYTHING.
SO ROBIN, CAN YOU JUST PUT A STRIKE ALL THROUGH? UM, I THINK STARTING AGAIN, NO, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE FURTHER UP WHERE IT SAYS BOARD MEMBERS RECEIVING ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC LAB, ALL OF THAT.
AND BELOW STRIKE ALL THAT, ALL OF THIS.
AND THEN I THINK JUST THE, THAT LONG, VERY LONG SENTENCE, THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL NOT COMMUNICATE ELECTRONICALLY DURING MEETINGS WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS OR DISTRICT STAFF REGARDING OFFICIAL BOARD BUSINESS AGENDA
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ITEMS OR OTHER BOARD MATTERS THAT ARE PROPERLY DISCUSSED PUBLICLY DURING BOARD MEETINGS, SUCH AS SUCH COMMUNICATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER FOYA.SO LET'S LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT SENTENCE ANYWAY, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT JUST BE ALL WE NEED TO PUT INTO THE HANDBOOK AND CALL IT A DAY.
SO DID WE GET RID OF EVERYTHING UP HERE? I THINK WE CAN STRIKE THAT.
PERSONALLY, DAVID, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SURE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CONSIDERING HYPOTHETICAL'S HERE WITH THIS, THIS ONE SENTENCE.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY PERCEIVES THAT THIS COULD, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THE PUBLIC REACHING OUT TO US.
UM, I ALWAYS WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS STATEMENT IS NOT GIVING OFF A PERCEPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE, WERE UNATTAINABLE OR WE DON'T WANT TO BE TALKED TO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, I, I CAN'T THINK OF A HYPOTHETICAL BECAUSE REALLY WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
ONE IS THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT BASICALLY DOING THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES DURING WELL, THE MEETING'S OPEN, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT COVERS THAT.
AND, UM, THAT'S THE THING THAT IS GETTING SOME LAWSUITS.
AND THEN, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE PUBLIC GOES, WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN IS THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, LIKE IF I HAVE A FRIEND, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN SOME HILTON HEAD PARENTS CALLED IN, WHO ARE FRIENDS OF MINE, UH, ABOUT A POLICY AND THEY WERE DOING, THEY, THEY FORGOT TO MENTION THE POLICY.
MY TEMPTATION WAS TO TEXT AND BE LIKE, GUYS, YOU'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS, BUT THAT'S THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PUBLIC COMMENTS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF INSIDE TRACK.
SO I REFRAIN FROM DOING THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO BOARD MEMBERS.
I MEAN, THAT'S, I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS OR EQUAL ACCESS TO BOARD BUSINESS DURING BOARD MEETINGS AND IN THIS SPECIFICALLY STATE DURING MEETINGS, RIGHT, EXACTLY.
THAT THERE IS, WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED PROCEDURE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IT'S NOT, AND IT'S NOT FAIR IF, BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEBODY, THEY GET EXTRA, YOU KNOW, ATTENTION IN MY OPINION, I THINK, UH, I THINK DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, I THINK WE, I THINK WE SHOULD SAY PERSONALLY, UM, AS SUCH COMMUNICATIONS MAY BE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER FOYA BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, IT MAY OR MAY NOT.
WE'RE NOT THE JUDGE AND JURY ON THAT.
OH, I THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE MUTED.
I WAS TRYING OUT THE REACTIONS ON ZOOM.
SO THAT'S JUST MY THUMBS UP APPROVAL OVER THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A HAND BEING RAISED.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? UM, KATHY AND DAVID, THAT'S FINE.
WHAT ARE WE CHANGING? UM, ON THE LAST SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS, AS SUCH COMMUNICATIONS ARE SUBJECT, I THINK WE SHOULD SAY MAY BE SUBJECT AS OPPOSED TO OUR, BECAUSE WE, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE, OH, I CAN'T GET RID OF MY REACTIONS.
NO, I KNOW BECAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WOULD GET RID OF IT.
I KNOW NOW I'VE GOT YOU THEIR REACTIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS MAY NOT WORK.
AND DO WE LIKE WILL NOT, OR DO WE WANT TO USE THE SAME LANGUAGE LIKE WE WERE USING WHEN WE WERE EDITING EARLIER WHERE I THINK INGRID SUGGESTED,
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UM, WHAT WAS IT LIMIT INSTEAD OF REFRAMING? I DON'T THINK LIMITS APPROPRIATE THERE.I THINK THAT LIMIT, UH, SAYS SOMETIMES IT'S OKAY TO DO THAT AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS THAT'S MY, MY VIEWPOINT.
HOW ABOUT BOARD MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO NOT COMMUNICATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT IS OUR EXPECTATION THAT BOARD MEMBERS WE'LL REFRAIN.
IT DOES SOUND LIKE LESS WORDS.
WELL, THE ONLY THING IS, WILL NOT SOUNDS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOES SOUND JUDGY.
UM, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE SCENARIOS UNDER WHICH THIS COULD OCCUR.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IS ODD ABOUT THIS, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE TO YOUR POINT, UM, THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF GUIDING POST FOR BEHAVIOR.
UM, MR. CHIMICHURRI, I'M SORRY.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE UNEQUIVOCAL.
I THINK, WELL, NOT AS APPROPRIATE.
I THINK LATER ON, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS THINGS THAT ARE PROPERLY DISCUSSED PUBLICLY.
SO I THINK THIS COVERS IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EQUIVOCATE, YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T DO THIS.
SO THEN WHERE DO WE PUT THIS IN THE HANDBOOK? UM, I KNOW THAT THAT'S PRESENTLY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF IT LOOKS LIKE ROBIN, DO YOU HAVE THAT? I DON'T.
AND PAGE 79 IS THE SECOND PAGE AND THERE'S A SECTION CALLED BOARD POLICIES.
AND THEN THE NEXT SECTION IS CALLED SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.
I WOULD PUT IT AFTER BOARD POLICIES.
SO IT'S ALL IT'S STAND ALONE OR WITH THE, LET ME SEE, I CAN PULL IT UP.
I THINK I HAD IT IN THE LAST I DO.
THAT'S PAGE 79 IS THE SECOND PAGE.
THE FIRST HEADING IS BOARD ROLE AND JOB DESCRIPTION.
SHOULD WE IT'S FOR THE FOYER SECTION? WOULD THIS PERHAPS MAKE SENSE TO GO THERE? WELL, I THINK THE FOYER IS THE FOYER SECTION IS JUST, UM, ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS.
SO IT WOULD BE BURIED IN THERE.
WHERE ARE WE? I'VE FOUND IT PAGE 79, 79.
I MEAN, WE COULD PUT IT AFTER SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS BECAUSE OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT TIES INTO THAT.
WHENEVER YOU HAVE IT, ROBIN, IF YOU CAN I HAVE IT UP.
THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO PAGES, I THINK, RIGHT? YES.
SO CAN YOU GO UP JUST A SMIDGE SO I CAN SEE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT'S COMMITMENT? OKAY.
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WAS GOING TO SAY MAYBE UNDER GOVERNANCE COMMITMENT RIGHT AFTER, UM, THAT PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS THE BOARD WILL GOVERN LAWFULLY AND FULFILL ITS COMMITMENTS.THE BOARD WILL HONOR AND ENFORCE ALL LOCAL LAW AND THEN ADD IT RIGHT UNDER THERE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS THE TITLE THAT WE WERE PUTTING IT UNDER.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, KATHY.
ROBIN, DID YOU CATCH THAT? IT'S THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH UNDER SEVEN IT'S COMMITMENT.
AND IT STARTS WITH, UM, THE BOARD WILL GOVERN, I BELIEVE.
GO BACK DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.
AT THE VERY END, I WOULD PUT IT AT THE END, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK? YEAH.
CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY OPERATING UNDER LOCAL STATE, FEDERAL LAWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THIS IS WE'RE TRYING TO, AND THE INTENT BEHIND THIS IS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THOSE.
SO IT MAKES SENSE THEN TO PUT IT THERE, RIGHT THERE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS, THAT RIGHT THERE AND STICK IT, LIKE DOING THIS ON THE FLY.
THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT IT TO GO, CORRECT? YES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS TOO THAT I KNOW, UM, MAY BE A CONCERN AND CERTAINLY IS A CONCERN OF MINE IS, UM, WE DON'T, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, UM, THE INTENT OF THIS IS NOT TO LIMIT ANYONE'S SPEECH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE DO HAVE A POLICY THAT BASICALLY SPEAKS TO THAT AND SAYS NOTHING WITHIN OUR POLICIES IS MEANT TO LIMIT SOMEONE'S SPEECH OR ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, SPEECH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'M JUST GONNA, I'M GONNA POINT THAT OUT WHEN WE DO DISCUSS THIS, UM, AT THE FULL BOARD OR WHEN WE RECOMMEND IT TO THE FULL BOARD, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD REQUIRE BOARD ACTION, BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE HANDBOOK.
WELL, THE, THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE HANDBOOK, UM, I NEED TO PUT IN THE REFERENCES THAT WENDY HAS PROVIDED TO PUT THE LINKS.
SO DO YOU WANT IT TO COME IN PIECE MAIL OR DO YOU WANT IT ALL WHEN IT'S ALL? I WOULD THINK A COMPLETED PRODUCT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ALL BOARD MEMBERS.
SO THE BLUE ITEMS THEN WILL BE UPDATED FROM THE LAST TIME THAT THE FULL BOARD HAD SEEN IT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AREA AREA FOR THIS ITEM? SO THAT WAS A REALLY THOUGHTFUL, UH, APPROACH.
WELL LET'S UM, THEN IF NOTHING MORE, I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I HAVE ANY HANDS RAISED OVER HERE.
SEEING NO HANDS, UM, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
SO WE NO LONGER NEED ANYTHING WITH THIS CORRECT.
WE REVISIT POLICY GC TWO 11 D 17 ADJOURNMENT, UH, THAT THE BOARD MEETING WILL ADJOURN AT 9:15 PM.
THIS CAME FROM OUR APRIL 20TH, UM, BOARD MEETING AND A DIRECTIVE TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.
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OKAY.WHY AREN'T WE WORKING ON SCORE FOR YOU?
SO THAT IS ACTUALLY FROM ACTION TAKEN AT THE 2020 MEETING.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS ONE COULD BE THAT THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP BY SOMEONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, UM, TO LOOK AT THAT AT A BOARD MEETING OR, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS IT HERE AND PROPOSE A CHANGE IF THAT'S WHAT'S DESIRED.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S DIFFERING OPINIONS THAT I HEARD FROM, I THINK IT WAS AT THE AGENDA SETTING THE OTHER DAY, UM, ON, ON THAT MATTER.
SO, UM, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR UP AND I SEE OUTRIGHT YOUR HAND.
WELL, I'M THE ONE THAT MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION AT, UH, THE BOARD MEETING BECAUSE, AND I, AND, AND IT'S JUST OUT OF IGNORANCE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE STILL EXACTLY HOW, IF YOU WANT IT, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SOMETHING THE BEST COURSE, IF YOU TAKE IT TO THE COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY I, TO ME, I PREFER THIS, YOU KNOW, LET THE COMMITTEE HASH IT OUT, BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.
SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY, BUT THIS WAS MY SUGGESTION BECAUSE I JUST REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT THIS BOARD HAS SET AN ADJOURNMENT TIME AND BASICALLY CODIFIED THE IDEA OF A RECONVENE MEETING RATHER THAN I THINK WE'VE TAKEN SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GENERALLY BE AN EXCEPTION AND MADE IT A NORM.
AND I THINK SOMETHING THAT OUR BOARD REALLY HAS TO WORK ON AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT OUR MEETINGS ARE JUST HORRIBLY INEFFICIENT AND THEY DON'T SERVE THE PUBLIC VERY WELL.
AND IT'S CAUSED THE PUBLIC TO REALLY DISENGAGE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, SO HERE'S MY LITTLE SPIEL.
I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND LAY IT OUT.
IF WE WANT TO BE A MORE EFFECTIVE BOARD, WHICH WE ALREADY ARE, WE HAVE TO HAVE TRUST ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND I THINK WE'VE GONE A LONG WAY.
UM, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN REBUILDING TRUST, AFTER ALL THE FOOLISHNESS THAT WENT ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WITH STAFF ENGAGEMENT, PEOPLE FIND OUR MEETINGS.
I HAD A STUDENT THAT WANTED, WAS INTERESTED IN ONE OF THE ISSUES ON THE BOARD MEETING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, WE'VE GOT TO RUN OUR MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENTLY.
THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE'RE DOING IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I FOUND REALLY PROBLEMATIC WAS THAT WE HAD FREDDIE LAWTON AND PAT FREIDA GIVING A TSI REPORT.
THEY GAVE THAT AFTER 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THE OTHER OPTION WAS AFTER HAVING SPENT A COUPLE HOURS KIND OF ON HOLD TO COME BACK THE NEXT DAY.
I THINK THAT THAT IS NOT TREATING THE STAFF WITH RESPECT.
I THINK WE REALLY, IF WE, THE BOARD, WE SET OUR AGENDA, IF WE CAN'T MANAGE OUR AGENDA IN THREE HOURS AND 15 MINUTES, THAT SHOULD BE ON US.
AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT THIS POLICY DOES IS IT SAYS, WELL, WE'RE DONE FOR THE DAY.
WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY BACK HERE AGAIN TOMORROW.
SO I WENT AND LOOKED AND I DID FIND ONE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAD ONE EXAMPLE OF A RECONVENE MEETING.
UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I CALLED DISTRICTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE IN DISTRICTS AND NO ONE IS DOING THIS, THIS SECOND MEETING.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES, AT ANY POINT, ANYONE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND WE CAN ADJOURN AND RECONVENE.
IT'S NOT PROHIBITING A RECONVENED MEETING, BUT TO ME, PUTTING INTO A POLICY MEANS WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.
SO IT DOESN'T, I THINK WHEN YOU SET A TARGET TIME TO ADJOURN, YOU'RE TRYING TO SORT OF PUT PRESSURE ON THE BOARD AND ON THE STAFF TO ADHERE TO A TIMEFRAME.
BUT IF WE'VE MAKE IT WHERE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO MEETING AT NINE 15, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE.
WE'RE NOT ACHIEVING THE GOAL OF HAVING A TARGETED GERMAN TIME.
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBLEMATIC THAT WE HAVE CODIFIED THIS AS POLICY.
AND I KNOW FROM THE FEW MEETINGS, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD NOW FOUR MONTHS OR SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD, I'VE HAD WHAT, THREE RECONVENE MEETINGS.
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THIS DISCUSSION LIKE FIVE TIMES WE RARELY COME IN UNDER NINE 15, AND WE HAVE TO STOP AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS A POLICY BE TAKEN OUT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T EVER HAVE A TWO-DAY MEETING, BUT I THINK THAT IT REFLECTS POORLY ON US THAT WE SORT OF ACT LIKE IT'S FINE.
I MEAN, IT COSTS THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.
WHEN WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING, WE HAVE TO BRING BACK THE SIX, THE SHERIFF, WE HAVE TO BRING BACK ALL OUR DISTRICT STAFF.
IF PEOPLE WERE ON THE AGENDA AND THEY EXPECTED TO SPEAK, WE HAVE TO TELL THEM, YOU GOT TO COME BACK TOMORROW.
IN ADDITION, IT MAKES IT HARD TO SCHEDULE OTHER MEETINGS BECAUSE NOW WE HOLD OPEN WEDNESDAY AS SORT OF LIKE, WELL, AS LONG AS WE DON'T GO OVER TO A SECOND DAY AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANY OTHER BOARD THAT I CAN LOOK TO THAT RUNS THEIR MEETINGS LIKE THIS.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD REVISIT IT.
UM, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN GROUP, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TAKING THIS OUT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE OF US HAVING EXTENDED BOARD MEETINGS IS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BY THIS.
I DON'T BELIEVE, I THINK THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT SOME PRESSURE ON THE BOARD TO GET MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE MEETINGS, UM, TO TRY TO WRAP IT UP BY NINE 15.
I THINK AGREES THAT WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME ABOUT SHORTENING UP THE MEETINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK REMOVING THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ANY EFFECT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND IT WAS PUT IN THERE BECAUSE R CIVILITY AND OUR ABILITY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS SEEMS TO DETERIORATE RATHER RAPIDLY AFTER ABOUT NINE 50.
UM, THAT'S, WE'VE GOTTEN INTO A LOT OF TROUBLE AND IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LATE WHEN PEOPLE'S TEMPERS START GETTING SHORT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE INTENT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND THE PROBLEM IS OUR MEETINGS RUN TOO LONG.
I DON'T THINK THIS ADDRESSES THE PROBLEMS. SO I DON'T SEE ANY HARM AT ALL.
THE REASON WHY OUR MEETING LAST SO LONG IS BECAUSE SOME, SOME BOARD MEMBERS THIS KEEP GOING ON AND ON, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I DON'T ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I GO OVER THE AGENDA.
I LOOK AT IT AND IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL, I WILL TALK TO THE, IT, I'LL TALK TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT ONCE WE ASKED HER ONE QUESTION OR TWO QUESTIONS AND THAT'S IT, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO HER AND ADDRESS IT AGAIN.
THAT'S HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETIME WE GET ON A, ON A SUBJECT, HAVE YOU SEEN, MAYBE WE CANNOT MAKE A DECISION AND IT DOES IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
YOU KNOW? I MEAN, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
THIS WAS RESPONDING TO MR. STORY.
I, MR. CAMPBELL, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I DON'T THINK THIS SOLVES THE PROBLEM, BUT WHAT I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS IT MAKES US LOOK.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T, WE, WE GET LESS CIVIL AFTER NINE 15, SO WE HAVE TO STOP AND COME BACK THE NEXT DAY AND, AND THINK ABOUT THAT.
LIKE, LET'S SAY I STILL HAVE KIDS AT HOME.
RODRIGUEZ, TANYA CROSBY TO SAY LIKE, WELL, WE'LL JUST COME BACK THE NEXT DAY IS, IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF TIME.
IT'S A QUESTION OF, THEY HAVE TO TIE UP ANOTHER EVENING, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK THAT, AND TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE BOARD CAN'T HANDLE ITS OWN AGENDA.
BUT, UM, IN ADDITION TO WHICH I FEEL LIKE IF WE SAID, I THINK IT'S FINE TO SET A GOAL TIME.
AND I THINK EARL CAMPBELL SAID TWO, TWO AND A HALF HOURS SHOULD BE OUR GOAL.
AND I AGREE, UM, AND TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, BY NINE 15, WE SHOULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS AGENDA.
AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THIS POLICY SAYS, IF NOT, WE'LL JUST COME BACK TOMORROW IS SORT OF LIKE SETTING A BUDGET AND THEN SAYING, OKAY, BUT IF YOU EXCEED YOUR BUDGET, HERE'S A CREDIT CARD.
YOU KNOW, WE NOTICE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SPENDING AND, AND REIGNING AND SPENDING.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO SAY, YOU CAN ONLY SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY PER MONTH, BUT HEY, IF YOU, IF YOU NEED IT, HERE'S A CREDIT CARD AND WE'RE USING THAT CREDIT CARD MORE OFTEN THAN WE'RE NOT.
I THINK I CAN ONLY THINK OF TWO, MAYBE THREE MEETINGS I'VE BEEN AT WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAME IN UNDER THE NINE 15.
SO I THINK THIS IS A SMALL BABY STEP, BUT IT'S A PUBLIC ONE.
IT'S, UH, ONE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND IT JUST SORT OF SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND SHUT THIS THING DOWN BY NINE 15.
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AND IF WE CAN'T, THAT'S ON US AND WE SHOULDN'T JUST BRING EVERYBODY BACK THE NEXT DAY, CAUSE THAT'S JUST HAPPENING WAY TOO MUCH.AND THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS THIS LAST MEETING WE HAD, WHERE WE HAD TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE EVENING, WE HAD TO LIKE SUSPEND THIS MEETING.
AND THEN BECAUSE OF THAT, WE COULDN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO, JUST TO ONCE WE RECONVENED AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION TO KEEP GOING.
AND SO THEN WE MANDATORILY HAD TO COME BACK FOR 20 MINUTES ON WEDNESDAY.
WE HAD TO BRING THE SHERIFF BACK AND WE HAD TO BRING THE SENIOR STAFF BACK.
AND I KNOW THE HILTON HAD PEOPLE DROVE, YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTES EACH WAY.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S REALLY PROBLEMATIC TO HAVE THIS BE OUR OFFICIAL POLICY THAT WE, WE INTEND TO ADJOURN BY NINE 15.
BUT IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL JUST BE BACK HERE TOMORROW.
I, I, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT IF WE, UH, TAKE AWAY THE NINE 15, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIMIT BE 10 O'CLOCK OR, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT ADDITIONAL 45 MINUTES.
BUT I THINK PART OF THE CAUSE OF THIS IS OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS ARE REALLY LONG LOOK AT WHEN OPERATIONS COMMITTEE BRINGS A CLOCK REPORT AND THEY BRING, YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF THOSE REPORTS ARE VERY LONG AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE ON AND WATCH THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, THEN YOU KNOW, THEN PEOPLE OFTEN HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS HOW RESTRUCTURING OUR AGENDAS.
AND INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL THE COMMITTEES REPORT OUT ON THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER HAD A COMMITTEE MEETING REPORTS OUT, THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY, OKAY, OPERATIONS AND FINANCE REPORTS OUT THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH AND ACADEMIC AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT COULD HELP.
I THINK, UM, KATHY ARE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.
WE ARE, YES, YOU'RE ONLY RECORDING IT.
SO ON THE NEXT AGENDA, THE ONLY COMMITTEES THAT ARE REPORTING OUT WOULD BE OPERATIONS AND FINANCE.
THE THING IS OPERATIONS HAS HAD TWO MEETINGS AND FINANCE AND OPERATIONS IS HAVING A JOINT MEETING, UM, AND THE RESULTS, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT'S ON THE WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA ARE THE COMMITTEES THAT HAVE MET PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT MEETING, IT'S THE COMMITTEES THAT MET THAT MET PRIOR TO THAT MEETING HAVE, SO ON THIS ONE, YOU HAVE FINANCE AND OPERATIONS.
OPERATIONS HAS HAD TWO MEETINGS AND I OKAY.
CAUSE I, I THOUGHT THERE WERE TIMES THAT WE'RE ALL AT THAT ALL THE COMMITTEES HAD REPORTED AND MAYBE IT'S, WELL, I JUST KNOW THAT OPERATIONS, UM, THEIR PRESENTATIONS ARE VERY LONG AND THAT, THAT ADDS A LOT TO, A LOT OF TIME TO THE MEETING.
THEN IT WAS SUGGESTED OPERATIONS TOOK A VOTE TO PUT THEIR INFORMATION ON CONSENT, BUT THEN IT WAS REMOVED FROM CONSENT.
SO OPERATIONS DID ASK FOR IT TO BE ON CONSENT, TO TAKE UP THE TIME, BUT THEN IT WAS ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT SO THAT DIDN'T WORK, BUT THEY WERE TRYING, BUT THEY WERE TRYING, I'M JUST GOING TO ADD A COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK KATHY YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF ON THE MONEY WITH THE COMMITTEE REPORTS.
I WAS ALSO GOING TO ASK AND SEE IF THERE WAS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRESENT PRACTICE IS, BUT IN REGARD TO DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THE TSI UPDATES, I KNOW THAT WE ARE REQUIRED BY CERTAIN REPORTINGS ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOES TO ACADEMICS FIRST AND THEN COMES TO US AND THEN CONDENSED FORMAT, UM, OR IF THEY CAN.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION OF SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE COMING ON THAT ARE LONGER REPORTS IF THEY COULD GO TO COMMITTEE FIRST AND THEN COME BACK IN A CONDENSED VERSION AFTER THE COMMITTEE'S BEEN ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BET THINGS, UM, PERHAPS THAT'S AN OPTION AND THEN I KNOW OPERATIONS HAS BEEN LONGER.
UM, BUT I HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW DUE TO OUR, OUR PROJECTS AND REFERENDUM AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S TEMPORARY, UM, AND KEEPING TRANSPARENCY WITH ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE SEE SUCCESS AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, UM, IF WE EVER HAVE TO MAKE THAT ASK AGAIN.
UM, THE, SO THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY I'M ON OPERATIONS AND YEAH, WE HAVE LONG PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE REFERENDUM PROJECTS.
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WE HAVE ACTUALLY TRIED TO GET AN MR. CORBYN TO BE LESS VERBOSE, UM, DURING THE REPORT TO THE FULL BOARD WITHOUT, UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL VERY WELL LAID OUT AND HE GIVES IT QUITE A LONG REPORT IN OPERATIONS AND WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, YOU CAN CONDENSE THAT.UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A TON OF SUCCESS AND YET WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE SOME STUFF BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE 8% PROJECTS, WE GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT UNDER OPERATIONS.
SO I, BUT I THINK WHAT KATHY YOU'RE IDENTIFYING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, RIGHT.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE CAN DO TO GET THIS AGENDA UNDER CONTROL TO ME AGAIN, I THINK WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT ALL THE THINGS WE CAN START, LIKE WHERE DO YOU START? RIGHT.
IN TERMS OF HOW WE MANAGE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, MORE USE OF CONSENT AGENDA, LIMITING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET MORE CONDOM, CONDENSED REPORTS, WHAT HAS TO GO BEFORE THE FULL BOARD? AND I'LL BE HONEST.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL THE BOARD'S FAULT.
SOME OF IT IS DISTRICT STAFF GIVING REALLY LENGTHY PRESENTATIONS.
SO, BUT THIS TO ME WAS LIKE A FIRST STEP THAT, OH, SORRY, I'M GETTING AN ECHO.
UM, IN TERMS OF PUSHING BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY RE WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR MEETINGS UNDER CONTROL.
AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THIS IDEA THAT EVERY NIGHT AT NINE 15, THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THE AGENDA WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US OR COME BACK THE NEXT DAY.
I JUST, THAT, THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S EASY.
I THINK THIS POLICY IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING.
UM, AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE'RE STARTING THIS PROCESS.
I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OUT, I THOUGHT WE WERE KIND OF DRIFTING AWAY FROM THAT FROM THE POINT, WHICH IS THIS RECESS THING.
UM, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT REMOVING THIS.
I THINK IT SERVES A FUNCTION AND I THINK IT'S MINOR AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY ADVANTAGE TO TAKING IT OUT.
UM, WE GOT A BIG PROBLEM AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SPECIAL MEETINGS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND OUR MEETINGS GO TOO LONG.
LET'S, LET'S HAVE US HOW A MEETING, NOT THE POLICY COMMITTEE.
LET'S HAVE THE BOARD MEET AND DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RESOLVED BY, IT'S NOT THE TOOL TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, RACHEL, THE OPERATIONS FOR ME HAS BEEN RUNNING LONG, BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS, RIGHT? POINT TAKEN MISS ROBIN.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE SAME THING.
I MEAN, UM, THE QUESTION BEFORE ROSS IS THE NINE 15, I KIND OF VEERED OFF BECAUSE OF THE, TAKING US DOWN THE, UH, THE SCOPE, THE AGENDA SCOPE.
UM, BUT THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS THE NINE 15 TIME, UM, HAVING IT THERE IN POLICY, DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM EXTENDING IT.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE MADE MOTIONS TO EXTEND THE MEETING.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC IS SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF FOR THE FULL BOARD PERHAPS UNDERSTOOD.
SO, UM, SEEING NO ACTION THEN ON THIS ITEM, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AND I CAN INCLUDE IN MY REPORT, YOU KNOW, SOME HIGHLIGHTS, OH, I'M SORRY, MR. CAMPBELL.
I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE THOUGH.
AND I AGREE WITH ALL THAT'S BEEN SAID.
AND THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THAT, THAT NINE 15, UH, POLICY IS THAT IT DOES ALLOW THE PUBLIC, UH, AN EYESIGHT TO WHETHER OR NOT THEIR ITEM OF INTEREST WILL BE COVERED.
NOW, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE SAID ABOUT OUR MEETING IS TRUE AND IT WOULD BE NEAT TO HAVE THAT SECOND SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO DECIDE WHAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO DO IN TERMS OF, UH, RESTRUCTURING THE MEETINGS OR PERHAPS PUTTING SOME THINGS OUTSIDE.
BUT WE THAT'S, THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM IS THE MEETINGS, UH, TOO LONG.
AND, YOU KNOW, NO ONE CAN PUT A VALUE OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
WHAT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO, TO THE CONSTITUENCY RIGHT NOW.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT WE SHORT NAP, BUT I SEE THAT NINE, 15 ITEM IS A SOMEWHAT OF AN ADVANTAGE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY CAN LOOK AT THE
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CLOCK TO WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN ENGAGED OR NOT IN THE MEETING AT THAT, UH, AT THAT.UH, SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AN INPUT.
SO NEXT ITEM I'LL INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR CONVERSATION ON THAT ITEM, UM, ON MY COMMITTEE REPORT AND KIND OF PULL UP THE AGENDA, SORRY, FOUR DOTS TIMED OUT HERE.
[Discussion of Future Meeting Dates]
OF FUTURE MEETING DATES OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING RIGHT AWAY.WHERE ARE WE ON THE, THE HANDBOOK ROBIN? UM, IT'S JUST NOW INCORPORATING, UM, THE LEGAL EASE FROM WENDY.
UM, SO, AND THAT THEN REQUIRE A MEETING THAT JUST IS SENDING IT OUT TO YOU ALL, IF YOU WANT, I MEAN, YOU COULD MEET ON, BUT IT'S JUST PUTTING ALL THE LINKS TO THE REFERENCES AND I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU ALL AND YOU ALL CAN SAY, YEAH, YOU LIKE IT, OR NO, YOU DON'T LIKE IT OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOUR CORRECTIONS OKAY.
IN A MEETING, EVEN IF IT'S A QUICK ONE AND PERHAPS WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL ITEMS, WE CAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT AWAY THOUGH.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S A SUPER PRESSING THING.
SO JUNE OR JULY, WHICH ONE'S BETTER FOR YOU, CATHY AND DAVID, ANY SUMMER TRIPS PLANNED? WELL, I KNOW I'M IN CHICAGO THE LAST WEEK OF JULY AND THE LAST WEEK OF JUNE, I HAVE COMPANY.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, JUNE'S REALLY BUSY WITH ALL THE GRADUATIONS.
WHAT ABOUT, UM, AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED IN JULY, WHICH WOULD BE JULY 13TH.
SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO AROUND THAT TIME AND TAKE FORWARD THE BOARD.
JULY, YOU SAID THE ONE MEETING IN JULY IS ON THE 13TH, CORRECT.
DO YOU HAVE THE, IS THE SIXTH OR THE FIRST OKAY.
OF JULY FOR ANYBODY? UH, JULY 1ST DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.
WHAT ABOUT THE SIX THAT WORKS? DO, UM, ROBIN.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT DUDE.
HOW ABOUT, UM, DOES 11 WORK FOR EVERYBODY? 1130 OR 11? I CAN MAKE 11 WORK.
I'M WRITING IT ON THE CALENDAR AT 11 O'CLOCK.
HOPEFULLY THAT'LL JUST BE A LITTLE BRIEF ONE ON THOSE HANDBOOK ITEMS. PERFECT.
UM, AND IF ANYTHING ELSE COMES TO US, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
OTHERWISE THAT SHOULD BE A SHORT ONE.
AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL MONDAY.